--- | Log | opened Fri Jul 20 00:00:25 2007 |
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00:03 | <onbes|deb1an> | hi |
00:04 | <sysop> | hi |
00:04 | <onbes|deb1an> | i were here a few hours ago - my internet fucked up. my problem was the sound in debian. when i start teamspeak i can not listen to music etc. teamspeak blocks the sound channel. the problem is not spezial teamspeak. every software which needs sound ... |
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00:05 | <onbes|deb1an> | i tried the diffrent drivers |
00:05 | <onbes|deb1an> | alsa oss ... |
00:05 | <lincoln> | hello,every one |
00:05 | <onbes|deb1an> | hi |
00:05 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, I have problem like you. |
00:06 | <sysop> | but only in hda-intel audio |
00:06 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, when I have other that work easily |
00:07 | <onbes|deb1an> | i have already asked my friend google, but the only productiv (if there is a word like this in english) answer he gave me was the channel |
00:07 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, I try install the newst alsa driver and other alsa packages and nothing to do with a program that use oss sound system |
00:07 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, but what is exactly your problem? |
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00:08 | <Messo> | hi! |
00:09 | <sysop> | Messo, hi! |
00:09 | <onbes|deb1an> | my problem is if I start an application with work with sound I can not start an other application with sound |
00:09 | <onbes|deb1an> | the sound channel is "full" |
00:09 | <onbes|deb1an> | only one application can use the sound channel |
00:09 | <onbes|deb1an> | that is my problem |
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00:09 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, I have this problem but only when application use oss (old sound system) |
00:10 | <Messo> | rightnow, i'm downloading the DVD1, and i'm curious, that i'll need the other 2 dvds for the install, or they contain other packages which i can isntall later? |
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00:10 | <onbes|deb1an> | yes Teamspeak use oss |
00:10 | <sysop> | what chipset, driver is your sound card? |
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00:11 | <onbes|deb1an> | i have a sound card extern and an onboard. at the moment i use the onboard card ähm its ä |
00:11 | <onbes|deb1an> | the extern card is i guess genius |
00:11 | <sysop> | Messo, what dvd?... if you have a speed conection to internet, only need one, and then Install everything from internet |
00:12 | <sysop> | Messo, only netinstall cdrom ;) |
00:12 | <Messo> | :) |
00:12 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, teorically, I guess with alsa-oss this have to work fine. |
00:13 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, but I still have the same problem |
00:13 | <onbes|deb1an> | hm yes an other fried have the same problems with his sound |
00:13 | <onbes|deb1an> | has |
00:13 | <Messo> | yep, but I like to own the full package, now i'm downloading these: |
00:13 | <Messo> | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/bt-dvd/ |
00:13 | <Messo> | and there is 3 dvds |
00:14 | <onbes|deb1an> | Yes, I have also used the netinstall cdrom. Downloading the full package is to large/big for my "slow" connection;) |
00:14 | <onbes|deb1an> | sry my english is not the best;9 |
00:14 | <Messo> | i hope that the main system/install package is on the first dvd ;) |
00:14 | <onbes|deb1an> | ;) |
00:14 | <Messo> | same @ me :) i'm hungarian |
00:14 | <onbes|deb1an> | hihi I'm from german;9 |
00:14 | <onbes|deb1an> | ;) |
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00:15 | <onbes|deb1an> | y |
00:16 | <Messo> | guten tag ;) so if i downloaded dvd1, i'll be able to install it and try it, right? and dvd2-dvd3 contain other packages, but not necessary for the main system |
00:16 | <onbes|deb1an> | sysop everything is configurated well with one exception: sound -.-" |
00:16 | <onbes|deb1an> | Guten Morgen;) |
00:16 | <Messo> | :P |
00:16 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, yes... I think so too about my machine. |
00:16 | <Messo> | other question: |
00:16 | <onbes|deb1an> | Ähm yes I think so. Normaly it should how you said Messo |
00:17 | <onbes|deb1an> | shoukd be |
00:17 | <Messo> | oh ty |
00:17 | <sysop> | Messo, yes |
00:17 | <Messo> | did you try cedega? |
00:18 | <sysop> | Messo, not. what it is? |
00:18 | <onbes|deb1an> | is it not something like wine? |
00:18 | <Messo> | yep |
00:18 | <onbes|deb1an> | for games? |
00:18 | <Messo> | but it's for games |
00:18 | <Messo> | dx emulation or something like that |
00:18 | <onbes|deb1an> | no I just heard something about that. |
00:18 | <Messo> | i tried it on suse, but i think something was wrong |
00:19 | <sysop> | ok... |
00:19 | <onbes|deb1an> | hm Suse |
00:19 | <Messo> | because it didn't recognize 3d accerelation ;) |
00:19 | <onbes|deb1an> | I do not know why, but i hate Suse (my personal) |
00:19 | <onbes|deb1an> | It is like windows. you click and everything is done |
00:19 | <sysop> | try opensuse if you hate when novell close that. |
00:19 | <onbes|deb1an> | :P |
00:19 | <Messo> | :) it was good at the first time, but the problems came and came.... |
00:20 | <onbes|deb1an> | What time is it where you live? :) |
00:20 | <k-man> | i'm trying to install 2.6.21, but its not finding my sata drive at boot time |
00:20 | <Messo> | (on suse, i mean opensuse) |
00:20 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, 12:20 am |
00:20 | <k-man> | because the sata drivers aren't loading properly i think |
00:20 | <k-man> | did something change between 2.6.18 and 2.6.21? |
00:20 | <onbes|deb1an> | where are you from if you do not mind my asking |
00:20 | <sysop> | k-man, have you initrd image? |
00:21 | <sysop> | k-man, or driver modules for sata is inside kernel? |
00:21 | <k-man> | sysop, um... what do you mean? is that a special kernel version? |
00:21 | <k-man> | sysop, its a stock debian kernel, and it appears to me the sata drivers are not being loaded from initramfs |
00:21 | <k-man> | initrd or whatever |
00:22 | <onbes|deb1an> | you had the problems with the installation of suse? |
00:22 | <onbes|deb1an> | right? |
00:22 | <onbes|deb1an> | or debian? |
00:22 | <sysop> | initrd image was created with modules in /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf, I don't remember very well |
00:22 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, I have one problem with a server with raid 1+0 or raid 10 |
00:23 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, driver for that was for suse enterprise 10 or 9, but I try opensuse and nothing. |
00:23 | <k-man> | sysop, not sure what you mean |
00:23 | <Messo> | (OFF: how can i write to people in IRC, in the public channel, like sysop was writing to me) |
00:23 | <sysop> | onbes|deb1an, with a hardware controller for raid |
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00:24 | <onbes> | sry i closed the window |
00:24 | <onbes> | hm |
00:24 | <Messo> | I just have to mention the name? or how will it be highlighted? |
00:25 | <sysop> | Messo, yes but depend of your irc client (I think so) |
00:25 | <sysop> | onbes, hehehehe |
00:25 | <onbes> | My Desktop PC has only got IDE -.-" but a fried had the same problems like u but i have forget the answer:P |
00:26 | <Messo> | oki ;) |
00:26 | <onbes> | guys |
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00:26 | <sysop> | onbes, what? |
00:27 | <onbes> | I had not slept since ähm yesterday |
00:27 | <sysop> | onbes, hehehehe |
00:27 | <onbes> | and here it is 7:27 am |
00:27 | <onbes> | I have to get some sleep |
00:27 | <onbes> | :P |
00:27 | <sysop> | onbes, friend, go to sleep |
00:28 | <Messo> | :) |
00:28 | <Messo> | 7:28 at me too :) |
00:28 | <onbes> | I will be back;) See you later. |
00:28 | <Messo> | but we're going to travel to my grandfather ;) |
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00:28 | <sysop> | european boys |
00:28 | <onbes> | :P |
00:28 | <onbes> | and you where r u fromß |
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00:29 | <sysop> | land of tequila and mariachi :D |
00:29 | <Messo> | ups |
00:29 | <sysop> | hehehehe |
00:29 | <onbes|deb1an> | :P |
00:29 | <onbes|deb1an> | bye |
00:29 | <Messo> | switch the browser ;) |
00:29 | <sysop> | bye |
00:29 | <Messo> | cya |
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00:29 | <Messo> | *switched |
00:29 | <Messo> | 1/3 of dvd1 is done ;) |
00:30 | <sysop> | Messo, hehehehehe good luck |
00:30 | <Messo> | 1:51 till the full :P |
00:30 | <Messo> | it's coming with avg. 450kb/s |
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00:30 | <sysop> | good bandwith |
00:31 | <Messo> | yep ;) |
00:31 | <Messo> | but it should be 560kb/s |
00:31 | <Messo> | according to the contract |
00:31 | <Messo> | but we're far from the center i think |
00:32 | <sysop> | Messo, hehehehe |
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00:32 | <sysop> | Messo, in Mbps what is your contract bandwith? |
00:33 | <Messo> | 4480 kbps |
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00:33 | <yujie> | hi ll |
00:33 | <sysop> | hi |
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00:33 | <sysop> | :) |
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00:33 | <Messo> | back |
00:33 | <Messo> | ;) |
00:33 | <Messo> | srry |
00:33 | <Messo> | my client is a java application |
00:34 | <Messo> | and the site is refreshing in 10 min or so |
00:34 | <Messo> | so i'm downloding with 3500kbps instead of 4480... :) |
00:34 | <Messo> | but this service was 384kbps/s :) |
00:35 | <Messo> | just it had been increased |
00:35 | <sysop> | Messo, but in Mbps? |
00:35 | <sysop> | or contract toll you it in kbps? |
00:35 | <Messo> | just divide by 1024 ;) |
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00:35 | <Messo> | contract is 4480kbit/s |
00:36 | <Messo> | am i writing with red color? |
00:36 | <sysop> | Messo, yes but I in contract say in Mbps or kbps? |
00:36 | <Messo> | ohh, dunno :) |
00:36 | <Messo> | but 4480 was said by my router :) |
00:37 | <Messo> | and router was given by ISP |
00:37 | <sysop> | Messo, some isp think 1 mbps is 1000 000 bps |
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00:37 | <sysop> | Messo, not 1024 or pows of 2 |
00:37 | <sysop> | Messo, like hard disk capacity... is for that I asked about contract |
00:37 | <Messo> | yep |
00:38 | <Messo> | but this speed was told by ADSL router |
00:38 | <Messo> | and i think it says the "offical" latency |
00:38 | <Messo> | latency -> speed, sry ;) |
00:39 | <Messo> | let's get back to debian :) : did you have serious problems in debian? |
00:39 | <Messo> | or is it a really good os? |
00:40 | <sysop> | Messo, may be the problem is in between monitor and the chair.... hahahahaha |
00:41 | <sysop> | Messo, or a problem in layer 8 in OSI/ISO model. |
00:41 | <sysop> | hahahaha |
00:41 | <sysop> | another joke :) |
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00:43 | <Messo> | :) |
00:43 | <Messo> | lol xD |
00:43 | <Messo> | i didn't get this joke: Messo, or a problem in layer 8 in OSI/ISO model. |
00:43 | <sysop> | hehehehe, is a very good one. |
00:44 | <sysop> | sysop, only for IT professional, or network admins or people like that, or cisco guys |
00:44 | <sysop> | :D |
00:44 | <Messo> | ;) |
00:45 | <sysop> | if you know about layers in OSI/ISO... |
00:45 | <sysop> | sysop, first you know there is only 7 layers... |
00:45 | <sysop> | then... |
00:45 | <Messo> | ;) |
00:45 | <Messo> | OSI = Open Systems Interconnection Reference Model ? |
00:46 | <sysop> | yes |
00:46 | <yujie> | who speak chinese |
00:46 | <sysop> | yujie, I don't |
00:46 | <yujie> | for anouther talk |
00:47 | <jm_> | !cn |
00:47 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æè¯·é读 |
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00:47 | <sysop> | Messo, if you study model, you see where going layers... |
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00:49 | <sysop> | layer 1 is physical... layer 2 data link, layer 3 Network... layer 6 presentation, layer 7 Application... if you follow this path |
00:49 | <sysop> | 8 is a fool user problem |
00:50 | <unix> | hey im newbie here |
00:51 | <sysop> | hi unix, me still too |
00:51 | <unix> | are learning learning |
00:51 | <unix> | or just begginer like me |
00:52 | <sysop> | I like learn, but a very begginer in irc |
00:52 | <unix> | ok |
00:52 | <unix> | i use to have irc |
00:52 | <niru> | while setting console screen modes and fonts at the start up time the display binks for few sec |
00:52 | <niru> | why |
00:52 | <unix> | but in windows |
00:52 | <niru> | how can I solve thta |
00:52 | <niru> | it happens only in bootup time |
00:52 | <niru> | shutting time no such problem |
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00:53 | <Messo> | back |
00:53 | <sysop> | niru, may be a normal thing |
00:54 | <niru> | sysop, I am getting this recently |
00:54 | <niru> | earlier I never used to get such blinking |
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00:54 | <sysop> | niru, did you install something new? |
00:54 | <niru> | sysop, no only installed new grub |
00:55 | <sysop> | niru, there is some option to change resolution and other things from grub |
00:55 | <sysop> | niru, like bootsplash, vga=... etch. |
00:55 | <niru> | sysop, ro splash=silent vga=791 quiet is what I am using every time |
00:56 | <unix> | thats for the grub |
00:56 | <unix> | ? |
00:57 | <sysop> | there are some time when change from vga text to graphic and is like blink, but I don't know what type of blink you have. |
00:57 | <unix> | what if modify the gnome to change the desktop environment |
00:57 | <sysop> | unix, yes are options inside grub config file... |
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00:58 | <unix> | right now im using ubuntu |
00:59 | |-| | mode/#debian [+l 288] by debhelper |
00:59 | <unix> | i tried to install debian but i did it but without no graphics |
00:59 | <Messo> | shame on you ;) |
00:59 | <sysop> | unix, don't say thath |
00:59 | <sysop> | unix, did you read title? |
00:59 | <unix> | lol |
01:00 | <unix> | ooops ! |
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01:00 | <sysop> | unix, don't worry |
01:00 | <sysop> | unix, just don't ask specific thing of ubuntu |
01:00 | <unix> | what version of debian u have ? |
01:01 | <sysop> | unix, in what machine? hehehehehe |
01:01 | <unix> | lol i should ask about everything im just opening the linux bible and i already install it withou a knowlegde |
01:02 | <sysop> | I have a very bad habit to mix version of debian, it before guys in this channel told me about backport |
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01:03 | <unix> | do you have a graphic interface ? |
01:03 | <unix> | kde o gnome |
01:03 | <sysop> | I prefer gnome, but was looking for xfce or compiz only for test |
01:04 | <niru> | sysop, just the display blinks for a while |
01:04 | <unix> | ok |
01:04 | <unix> | it seems like u know about this |
01:05 | <unix> | any sugest what should be the first thing i should read ? |
01:05 | <sysop> | niru, if nothing in config or software installed changed, try to check if is a hardware problem. |
01:05 | <sysop> | unix, depend what do you want? |
01:05 | <niru> | sysop, it should not be a hardware problem because I am facig the same in all pcs |
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01:06 | <sysop> | niru, then there are more with the same problem |
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01:10 | <sysop> | well guys, this pretty boy go to bed, her girlfriend reclam his presence.... |
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01:10 | <unix> | hey sysop ? |
01:10 | <sysop> | hehehe only a joke... training to marry |
01:11 | <unix> | where u from sysop ? |
01:11 | <sysop> | unix, yeap? |
01:11 | <sysop> | as I said, land of tequila and mariachi! |
01:11 | <sysop> | unix, like zorro, the movie |
01:12 | <unix> | asi q hablas espanol right ? |
01:12 | <unix> | im from DR |
01:13 | <sysop> | unix, si muy buen español |
01:13 | <sysop> | unix, pero no lo digas en voz alta porque dpkg luego nos corre a debian-es |
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01:15 | <polardropbear> | Can anyone help me with logging in as Root? |
01:16 | <unix> | jajajajaja |
01:16 | <unix> | i think i read already |
01:16 | <unix> | sudo su- |
01:16 | <polardropbear> | Anyone> |
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01:18 | <steanjack> | oie |
01:18 | <steanjack> | preciso de ajuda...alguem pode me ajudar? |
01:18 | <mjk> | !br |
01:18 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
01:19 | <unix> | u still there sysop ? |
01:19 | <sysop> | ese dpkg por esome cae bien |
01:19 | <sysop> | ups... sorry dpkg |
01:20 | <steanjack> | thanks |
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01:21 | <sysop> | dpkg speak very may languages, and ever he know what to say. |
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01:21 | <sysop> | very many |
01:21 | <unix> | whos dpkg sysop ? |
01:21 | <sysop> | sorry typing problem... my keyboard |
01:22 | <sysop> | unix, I don't know very well. I guess he may be a bot with IA or a very smart person. |
01:22 | <sysop> | may be both :D |
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01:23 | <unix> | how do i say je je in english ? |
01:23 | <k-man> | what does je je mean? |
01:24 | <sysop> | hehehehe |
01:24 | <jm_> | it means "I am a burro" |
01:24 | <sysop> | I guess... well I see this thing new to me. |
01:24 | <sysop> | k-man, is like lol or smile |
01:25 | <k-man> | oh |
01:25 | <k-man> | is it like a sound of laughing unix? |
01:25 | <sysop> | k-man, yes! |
01:26 | <k-man> | unix, in that case, say "he he" then |
01:26 | <unix> | right |
01:26 | <sysop> | k-man, but in spanish, people write this with jejeje or jajajaja |
01:26 | <unix> | where u work sysop ? |
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01:26 | <sysop> | sysadmin for a enterprise |
01:26 | <unix> | it depends if the joke was good enough |
01:27 | <unix> | to upgrade from jejeje to jajaja should a good joke |
01:27 | <unix> | sysop, and that is ? |
01:28 | <sysop> | I don't name it... |
01:28 | <sysop> | but if you know a better job for my, I can look a new job. |
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01:30 | <sysop> | enterprise dealer of pc components... I don't know translated name |
01:30 | <unix> | ok |
01:30 | <unix> | well i work for prtc help desk |
01:31 | <unix> | isp provider of puerto rico |
01:31 | <unix> | dmax |
01:32 | <sysop> | whow... |
01:32 | <sysop> | unix, is like WiMAX? |
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01:33 | <unix> | whats wimax |
01:33 | <sysop> | unix, a wireless service of internet with other technology... |
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01:34 | <unix> | no dmax is offers |
01:34 | <unix> | dsl in puerto rico |
01:35 | <sysop> | unix, ah ok... when do you come to mexico, |
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01:36 | <sysop> | well your enterprise... I like to change adsl connection |
01:36 | <sysop> | unix, may be you can help me with one thing... |
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01:36 | <sysop> | I have a 2wire 2071 modem/router for dsl. |
01:37 | <sysop> | but I need to use only like modem or bridge... |
01:37 | <sysop> | I want server do the connection, and server stay front on internet not the router 2071 |
01:38 | <sysop> | I don't want to use dmz with the router, simply I don't want router stay in front on internet |
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01:41 | <sysop> | unix, I configured for do that, and then with debian server do connection, but I guess ISP don't like that and after a reboot to see all will work fine |
01:41 | <sysop> | this stop to function... |
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01:41 | <unix> | may isp have access to your modem from the cms |
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01:43 | <sysop> | unix, I'm a fool in that things... what is cms? |
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01:43 | <unix> | cms is a graphic controller over the internet where they can access to your modem |
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01:44 | <sysop> | but I don't know if it stop working because isp is going to change to fix ip (I buyed contract with IP fixed) |
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01:45 | <sysop> | unix, did you know this router I said? |
01:45 | <unix> | no the isp dont have to be with that let see if u are doiung the right config |
01:45 | <unix> | just i know |
01:46 | <sysop> | well, is the first time I do with that model... |
01:46 | <unix> | but we work with 2700 hg |
01:46 | <sysop> | 2wire? |
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01:46 | <unix> | yea |
01:46 | <unix> | https://cms.2wire.com/cms/loginForm.do |
01:46 | <unix> | get in to this site |
01:47 | <unix> | see what i say about the cms |
01:47 | <unix> | is a secure one |
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01:47 | <sysop> | how can enter in this website? |
01:48 | <unix> | u want to log in |
01:48 | <unix> | ? |
01:48 | <sysop> | the courious thing is this work for a time, util I reboot server... then problem happens |
01:49 | <sysop> | if in that website show how to configure router to function only like modem |
01:49 | <unix> | why u reboot ur server ? |
01:49 | <sysop> | I change config to apply when boot, virtual interfaces, firewall script to apply on boot time, etc. |
01:50 | <sysop> | I need to be sure, server will boot properly if it shutdown when there is a shorcut or something |
01:51 | <sysop> | I don't like to reboot 3 month later and don't know if was a configuration I do 3 months before or thins I do 5 minutes before. |
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01:51 | <lucifer001> | hello |
01:51 | <unix> | it should boot property |
01:52 | <lucifer001> | how are you > |
01:52 | <sysop> | unix, yes to be sure it boot in right way. |
01:52 | <unix> | just dont reset ur modem |
01:52 | <sysop> | unix, yes. I don't reset modem... yet |
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01:53 | <sysop> | unix, but after some trys I disconnect from power line (the router 2wire) and then reconnect |
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01:54 | <sysop> | and one more time this detect connection over pppoe, but later not. |
01:54 | <lucifer> | ye!!! |
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01:58 | <lucifer001> | aix is hard |
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02:00 | <sysop> | unix of ibm |
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02:00 | <twb> | lucifer001: is that really relevant? |
02:00 | <sysop> | sorry unix... I mean Unix OS from IBM |
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02:01 | <unix> | ? |
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02:03 | <serge> | Hello! I still looking for the solution to clone my Etch server. It seems clear about debootstrap and dkpg --get-selections , .. --set-selections. But what about the settings? Will I need to answer configuration questions again? The matter is that I've installed my srv in expert mode, becuse I had to choose KOI8-R instead of default UTF locale, etc... Are there any ways to automate this part of work? |
02:03 | <twb> | !FAI |
02:03 | <dpkg> | [fai] Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
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02:04 | <sysop> | but FAI work from an install server not? |
02:05 | <twb> | NFI |
02:05 | <sysop> | may be you need something like Debian From Scratch |
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02:06 | <serge> | twb: thank you, it looks optimistic. Let me see.. |
02:06 | <jm_> | serge: you can clone debconf database too |
02:07 | <serge> | sysop: I will need this later.. As in my plans is to create demo distro with our soft .. |
02:08 | <serge> | jm_: how to..? |
02:08 | <twb> | serge: in that case, you are more likely to want Debian Live |
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02:10 | <jm_> | serge: man debconfg-get-selections |
02:10 | <serge> | twb: live CD is possible too... Later I'll put my hands on it. |
02:10 | <serge> | jm_: thnx |
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02:12 | <sysop> | serge, try dfsbuild |
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02:12 | <sysop> | it do a live cd, and an installer of debian. |
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02:15 | <serge> | thank you, guys. |
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02:17 | <sysop> | serge, you are welcome |
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02:34 | <smash> | hello every one. Is there any help for a newbie. In my Iceweasel webbrowser I can't open xml files. how can i correct this? |
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03:13 | <Crypticfortune> | ok, the examples from the boost.org docs on regex _should_ compile, right? is this debian's fault? why? http://rafb.net/p/ZQevpk30.html |
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03:26 | <m_g> | hey people, dist-upgrade on a testing machine (last upgrade one week ago) wants to remove linux-kernel-headers and modutils. is that fine and won't cause any damage or is there a temporary problem? |
03:26 | <dondelelcaro> | m_g: linux-kernel-headers is no longer needed; modutuils is for 2.2 and 2.4; in 2.6 it's module-init-tools |
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03:27 | <m_g> | dondelelcaro, ah sounds good :) let me try |
03:27 | <m_g> | at least no errors.. thanks dondelelcaro :) |
03:29 | <dondelelcaro> | np; the package descriptions will usually help you out in these cases too |
03:31 | <m_g> | ok.. i'm a little paranoid when it comes to upgrades now because a week ago dist-upgrade screwed up a machine with a kernel update |
03:31 | <m_g> | it just wouldn't boot anymor |
03:31 | <m_g> | so i started it with a rescue system but couldn't find the cause of the problem yet |
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03:59 | <bombom> | hai |
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04:10 | <biblio> | hola buenos dias a todos |
04:10 | <jm_> | !es |
04:10 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
04:12 | <biblio> | thank you very much... |
04:12 | <delire> | biblio: hola, buenas. |
04:12 | <biblio> | i?l go there |
04:12 | <biblio> | hi delire... how are you? |
04:12 | <dpkg> | biblio: just great |
04:13 | <delire> | biblio: well thanks. getting off to a good start actually. super weather outside. |
04:13 | <delire> | biblio: y tu? |
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04:16 | <biblio> | im fiune too |
04:17 | <biblio> | fine.. |
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04:58 | <Wojtek> | Hi guys |
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04:59 | <Wojtek> | does anybody know what happened to the jigdo repositories ? |
04:59 | <Wojtek> | they haven't been updated for some time now, both in stable and testing |
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05:05 | <bebert> | hi |
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05:09 | <jesusch> | Hi |
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05:09 | <sandra_> | si |
05:10 | <sandra_> | hi |
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05:10 | <jesusch> | who is the stable release manager? |
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05:20 | <jesusch> | zobel: is there already a timeline for 4.0r1? |
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05:25 | <Wojtek> | that's a good question jesusch |
05:26 | <Wojtek> | I was asking before about the whole jigdo thing, why isn't it being updated ? |
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05:26 | <jm_> | why would it be updated? |
05:28 | <jesusch> | jm_: I have a machine that is booting from an emulated USB CDROM which is currently not supported by the installer |
05:28 | <jesusch> | the debian-boot guys told me that is already fixed and waiting for r1 |
05:29 | <jm_> | jesusch: yes, but as r1 hasn't been released yet .. |
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05:29 | <jesusch> | that's why I'm asking when this might happen. regarding release.d.o it should be roughly on a two month basis |
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05:30 | <jm_> | there's a mailing list for that, probably best to ask there |
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05:30 | <jm_> | or read its archives frist |
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05:32 | <Wojtek> | jm_: umm because it's a rather frequent way to keep your own little iso-repo updated? 3 months ago and before that updates were done like every 3 days and you could always get a fresh iso out of it |
05:32 | <jm_> | Wojtek: not for stable |
05:32 | <Wojtek> | now the updates for the jigdo template files have stopped, in april for the stable release and in may for the testing release |
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05:34 | <Wojtek> | stable has been last updated in april |
05:34 | <Wojtek> | and ok, that doesn't need such frequent updates because it is from the stable repo |
05:34 | <Wojtek> | but what about testing then? |
05:35 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: testing is updated daily. |
05:35 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: but cds for it are pretty much useless. |
05:36 | <Wojtek> | I know that guys |
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05:36 | <Wojtek> | but I'm asking here about the jigdo iso downloading method |
05:36 | <Wojtek> | why isn't thie updated |
05:37 | <Wojtek> | I always like to have a fresh copy of testing isoz on my HD, without having to download the whole thing every couple of days |
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05:37 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: the reason why is because it's pointless to update the testing isos. |
05:37 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: if you want to keep testing around, just run a mirror of testing. |
05:38 | <Wojtek> | umm ... so why has it been updated daily till May 28th ? |
05:38 | <Wojtek> | http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ < here ya go |
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05:39 | <Wojtek> | why is it pointless to keep the testing isoz fresh? if it's not fresh then I'd have many packages to upgrade right after install, that's why having an updated testing iso makes sense to me |
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05:39 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: because you're better off pointing your machines at a local testing mirror instead |
05:39 | <jm_> | that's your problem then |
05:39 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: rather than wasting processing time and diskspace storing the isos |
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05:41 | <Wojtek> | but what if the machine doesn't have net access ? :) |
05:41 | <jm_> | that's also your problem :) |
05:41 | <jm_> | there are things like apt-zip and so on |
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05:41 | <Wojtek> | oh right forgot about that |
05:41 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: you don't need network access. You can create a mirror anywhere |
05:41 | <Wojtek> | so, does the whole jigdo thing not make any sense then yes ? |
05:42 | <dondelelcaro> | Wojtek: not really for testing, no. |
05:42 | <Wojtek> | if you even know what it is |
05:42 | <Wojtek> | well then the maintainer was smart :) had been updating it every 2 or 3 days for over a year or two :) |
05:44 | <dondelelcaro> | well, the maintainer was updating it because it made sense to test to make sure that it would work when it actually came time to make the stable jigdos |
05:44 | <dondelelcaro> | not necessarily because someone should use them |
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05:44 | <Wojtek> | so, "just 4 fun" ? |
05:45 | <Wojtek> | I just checked the bittorrent file repos, same thing, finished with testing on 28 May |
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05:46 | <Wojtek> | ok, now I understand |
05:46 | <dondelelcaro> | not just for fun... I explained why it was done; the other reason why they're disabled now is because d-i is in a development cycle, and may break at any time |
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05:52 | <Wojtek> | oh well that's a better reason then :) thanks dondelelcaro |
05:52 | <Wojtek> | any infos about the whole SATA spin problem with 2.6.22 ? |
05:52 | <Wojtek> | I don't want to tackle the new kernel till this is over (at least in debian) |
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05:55 | <jm_> | Wojtek: what spin problem? |
05:55 | <Wojtek> | umm I heard that there was a problem with 2.6.22 and the shutdown command |
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05:56 | <Wojtek> | that the kernel didn't send proper commands to the disk drives ... spindown or spinoff, something like that, which is neccessary before reboot or shutdown |
05:56 | <Wojtek> | it flushes the drives cache |
05:56 | <Wojtek> | there was a link describing the problem, posted on the forums but I can't find it now :( |
05:56 | <jm_> | read about it here http://linux-ata.org/shutdown.html |
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05:57 | <Wojtek> | oh right that was it |
05:57 | <jm_> | it's a standby problem, not spinup problem |
05:57 | <Wojtek> | well it's hard to recall something from 2 weeks ago from memory ;) |
05:57 | <Wojtek> | so, debian doesn't have this problem ? |
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06:00 | <Wojtek> | or do I completely not understand the presented issue :) |
06:00 | <Vrenn> | hello, im running current debian stable on an Asus R1F laptop, where modules are loaded but alsa gives no sound, help please :-) |
06:01 | <Wojtek> | um do you know what kind of sound chip does your laptop use ? |
06:01 | <jm_> | !alsa checklist |
06:01 | <dpkg> | [alsa-checklist] 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the 'audio' group (log out and log again in) 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
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06:01 | <Wojtek> | right, alsaconf :) |
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06:04 | <Vrenn> | yep, did all that before |
06:05 | <Vrenn> | alsaconf is even detecting and confing the intel hda, but nosoundoutput |
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06:05 | <Wojtek> | oh intel hda |
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06:05 | <Wojtek> | I heard that there are some problems with it, but it's runnable |
06:05 | <Wojtek> | check out Alsas wiki, there's a page about it I think |
06:06 | <Vrenn> | hda-intel Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Co... hmm, ok |
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06:07 | <Wojtek> | um, so anybody knows something more about debian + SATA problem ? |
06:07 | <Wojtek> | as in here: http://linux-ata.org/shutdown.html |
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06:09 | <witte> | Wojtek: maybe you can look in the changelog? |
06:09 | <Wojtek> | changelog of the kernel-source ? |
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06:10 | <Wojtek> | or what ? |
06:10 | <gsimmons> | Wojtek: There's already a bug against 'sysvinit' for it (#430497). |
06:10 | <Wojtek> | oh |
06:11 | <Wojtek> | soo I should still wait for it to be resolved before trying 2.6.22 ? |
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06:12 | <Wojtek> | has anybody here used 2.6.22 from a SATA drive ? |
06:12 | <gsimmons> | Wojtek: I'd imagine so, if it will inconvience you that much. See also #426224. |
06:13 | <Wojtek> | well I only have 2 SATA drives... |
06:15 | <Wojtek> | wonder when it will be fixed, doesn't seem to be something BIG to do |
06:15 | <witte> | Wojtek: do you need 2.6.22 |
06:16 | <Wojtek> | well not much but I like being updated ;d |
06:16 | <Wojtek> | *up-to-date :) |
06:16 | <witte> | Wojtek: in bug report #426224 the maintainer hints that it would not be trivial |
06:17 | <Wojtek> | oh, missed that part |
06:17 | <witte> | quote: "Unfortunately, it is way too much for me to do and test right now" |
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06:17 | <Wojtek> | ok then I'll try my luck in a few days, if not then I'll revert back to 2.6.21 |
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06:19 | <gsimmons> | Wojtek: If you want to be updated on changes to the 'sysinitv' package, subscribe to it on the Package Tracking System. |
06:20 | <gsimmons> | s/sysinitv/sysvinit/ |
06:21 | <Vrenn> | trieing something, restart |
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06:22 | <Wojtek> | um how to do that ? |
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06:23 | <gsimmons> | Wojtek: Open up <http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sysvinit.html> and provide an e-mail address at the 'Subscription' section. |
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06:24 | <Wojtek> | thanks! never knew something like this existed |
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06:28 | <gsimmons> | Wojtek: You can also subscribe to specific bugs, too. |
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06:54 | <korny> | hi |
06:54 | <korny> | how can i substitute iceweasel with firefox? |
06:55 | <witte> | korny: download the source, and compile it |
06:55 | <witte> | korny: maybe there is a non-debian repository for firefox? but i do not know about that |
06:55 | <witte> | korny: why do you want to change? |
06:56 | <korny> | i downloaded the package with binaries and when i start ./firefox, there always starts iceweasel |
06:56 | <korny> | witte: i want to have version 2.0.0.5 |
06:57 | <witte> | korny: what are you running: stable, testing or unstable? |
06:57 | <korny> | witte: and i'd like to use the integrated update function |
06:57 | <korny> | testing |
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06:59 | <witte> | 2.0.0.5 is now accepted in unstable |
07:00 | <witte> | normally you will have it in testing in 10 days |
07:00 | <witte> | http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel/news/20070720T070221Z.html |
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07:02 | <korny> | however i think i will install the non-free firefox |
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07:04 | <korny> | hehe i solved the problem myself: i still had an unfinished download in my iceweasel ^^ |
07:05 | <korny> | thanks for your help |
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07:11 | <mixter> | hi! i just installed etch on a ibm server (x3650). the installation went just fine, but the system cannot boot. i get kernel panic and complaints about "IO-APIC + timer doesn't work". the strange thing is that the server boots just fine if i press enter in grub and chooses the default alternative. any ideas? a low-payed employee to press enter if the server reboots? ;-) |
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07:12 | <jm_> | try different kernel parameters |
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07:13 | <mixter> | jm_: but should the kernel params grub sends to the kernel differ if it boots "on it's own" or if i stand there and just presses enter? |
07:13 | <jm_> | mixter: no |
07:14 | <mixter> | jm_: thats what i find strange... and i can't really test any different parameters since the kernel boots with the once i got :-) |
07:14 | <mixter> | jm_: could i reinstall grub anyway? i could boot the machine and do whatever i like, it just don't boot by itself |
07:15 | <jm_> | mixter: well you can continue pressing enter or try the suggested alternative |
07:15 | <jm_> | mixter: there's no point in reinstalling GRUB, it works |
07:15 | <mixter> | how could i try some other parameters then? |
07:15 | <jm_> | edit kernel entry in menu.lst |
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07:17 | <mixter> | jm_: i'll try to verify that the parameters are the same when booting unattended. i'll get back :-) thanks! |
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07:17 | <jm_> | mixter: I suggest nolapic to start with |
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07:28 | <tsai> | trying to stop all apt processes. when i do ps aux there are none listed. but when i try to use apt-get install i get an error saying the process is already running. how is this possible? |
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07:29 | <twb> | tsai: please don't try to parse the output of ps(1) programmatically. |
07:29 | <twb> | See pgrep and pkill, or killall. |
07:29 | <ackron> | tsai: look for dpkg ins ps output |
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07:30 | <twb> | tsai: probably apt died and left a lock file around. |
07:32 | <twb> | tsai: what is the exact error you see? |
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07:35 | <zach_ee> | Hi! Just installed fresh debian with xfce and have trouble. ttf-opensymbol fails to run postinst and postrm |
07:35 | <zach_ee> | anybody can help? |
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07:35 | <jm_> | BTS time |
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07:40 | <fxiny> | BTSity kills the cat ... |
07:41 | <twb> | Does bug-triage work for anyone? |
07:41 | <twb> | I can only get it to list individual bugs, not e.g. src: apache2 |
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07:50 | <yangvnc> | I was trying to build rt2500 wireless module with module assistant, but I got this build error - http://paste.debian.net/33068 |
07:51 | <jm_> | did you run m-a prepare? |
07:51 | <yangvnc> | yes |
07:51 | <yangvnc> | m-a a-i rt2500 and m-a get rt2500;m-a build rt2500 |
07:52 | <yangvnc> | I allready built the module rt2500 for the previous 2.6.18 kernel and have it installed, trying for the 2.6.21 now |
07:52 | <jm_> | make sure linux/config.h file exists |
07:53 | <yangvnc> | in which path? |
07:53 | <jm_> | should be in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.21-2-k7 |
07:54 | <yangvnc> | hmmm |
07:54 | <yangvnc> | there is no linux directory in that directory |
07:54 | <jm_> | try dpkg -S linux/config.h |
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07:55 | <jm_> | hmm has that changed with 2.6.21 |
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07:56 | <yangvnc> | just /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.21-2/include/linux$ configfs.h |
07:56 | <chealer_> | jm_: include/linux/config.h |
07:57 | <jm_> | chealer_: yeah, dpkg would have found that |
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07:58 | <jm_> | it is there in 2.6.18, and I remember some config.h changes in the kernel "lately", so it may be it's no longer there |
07:59 | <jm_> | yeah it's no longer there in at least 2.6.20 and newer |
08:01 | <jm_> | it should use autoconf.h - so I do remember it properly then |
08:02 | <yangvnc> | jm_: so i am out of luck for now |
08:02 | <jm_> | yangvnc: is there no newer rt2500 package out there? |
08:03 | <yangvnc> | i think not |
08:03 | <yangvnc> | i got the most recent for lenny |
08:03 | <jm_> | are you using sid? |
08:03 | <jm_> | sid has newer package than testing |
08:03 | <yangvnc> | lenny |
08:03 | <yangvnc> | I can wait and use the older kernel, untill it gets fixed for lenny |
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08:23 | <Nemoder> | I'm confused on how debian bugs are processed, this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+430907 has been marked fixed for version 4.3.0-3 but it looks like that is only for amd64, is there also an i386 fix that is not yet in unstable? |
08:26 | <stew> | Nemoder: the maintainer built it for amd64 on his machine and uploaded the source and the amd64 binary that he built, now the buildd network is building it and intsalling it for the rest of the arches |
08:26 | <Nemoder> | ok, cool |
08:26 | <stew> | Nemoder: http://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=qt4-x11 |
08:26 | <Nemoder> | oh nice |
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08:29 | <aquilotto12> | buongioro |
08:29 | <aquilotto12> | qualcuno parla italiano? |
08:30 | <jm_> | !it |
08:30 | <dpkg> | per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C'è anche il canale #linux-it là. |
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08:32 | <x> | how i can install RealPlayer in 7.0.4 ?! |
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08:33 | <tV2> | hi |
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08:38 | <uter> | hi |
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08:39 | <uter> | i have a question about wlan ;) - I can load the drivers but how can i bind the wlan card to an interface ? |
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08:41 | <on> | I have pbs installing libc6-xen |
08:42 | <on> | apt-get install libc6-xen |
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08:42 | <on> | libc6-xen: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6.ds1-13) but 2.5-9+b1 is to be installed |
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08:42 | <on> | a dpkg -l |grep libc6, show me ii libc6 2.5-9+b1 |
08:44 | <kaktuskatta> | themill: I'm connected to the debian-box now. By following the guide on the link you sent me, I have to insert a CD for some files needed during the installation. How do I change media source? I don't have that CD anymore..... |
08:44 | <Metalqga> | edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
08:45 | <kaktuskatta> | Metalqga: Change to what? |
08:45 | <Metalqga> | put # in front the lines that state CDrom |
08:45 | <Metalqga> | or erase them |
08:46 | <kaktuskatta> | Metalqga: ok, Thanks:) |
08:46 | <jMCg> | Is there a way to manipulate the page size in Linux on a per-process base? |
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08:47 | <Metalqga> | after you edit the sources.list do -> apt-get update |
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08:48 | [~] | delire notes Firefox makes him want to $(beep -l 400 -f 38 -n -l 40 -f 2000 -n -l 40 -f 10000 -n -l 40 -f 2000 -n -l 1000 -f 37) |
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08:48 | <kaktuskatta> | say, Is it possible to add a spesific user to the "sudo" group? I tried adduser username su |
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08:49 | <Metalqga> | it's possible |
08:49 | <kaktuskatta> | That seemed to work, but I'm unable to type eg . sudo apt-get |
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08:49 | <Metalqga> | you have to edit a file I dont remember which one |
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08:49 | <debUsr42> | hi |
08:49 | <stew> | kaktuskatta: did you add the user to sudoers using visudo? |
08:49 | <lupine_85> | you need to run visudo, IIRC |
08:49 | <kaktuskatta> | I get this message: kaktus is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
08:49 | <lupine_85> | that's the one |
08:49 | <Metalqga> | dpkg told you :D |
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08:51 | <kaktuskatta> | Metalqga: Ok, thanks |
08:51 | <kaktuskatta> | stew: no I didn't |
08:51 | <stew> | kaktuskatta: man sudoers |
08:52 | <Metalqga> | kaktuskatta if you have a question ask this chap: dpkg he is very wise and talkative :D |
08:54 | <kaktuskatta> | Metalqga: Hehe...talking to a robot :P |
08:55 | <Metalqga> | lol i didn't know that, I was just going to ask him out |
08:55 | <Metalqga> | ;) |
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08:55 | <on> | I can't install libc6-xen, libc6-xen: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6.ds1-13) but 2.5-9+b1 is to be installed, but my installed version 2.5.9+b1 ! |
08:55 | <on> | can someone help me ? |
08:56 | <Metalqga> | try with synaptic |
08:56 | <stew> | on: you are trying to mix testing and stable, which is not supported |
08:56 | <on> | no at all |
08:57 | <on> | I have upgrade to etch, and I want to test xen |
08:57 | <stew> | on: ok if you are trying to or not, you have upgraded your system at least partially to lenny, aka stable, and now you are trying to mix stable pacakges in with your testing system which is not supported |
08:57 | <stew> | on: errr lenny aka testing, i mean |
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08:58 | <stew> | on: you will need to ether upgrade your system entirely to testing, and install lib6-xen from testing, or manually downgrade all of the packages that are newer than stable back to stable versions, or reinstll |
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08:59 | <on> | stew: how can I know i'm mixing packages ? |
08:59 | <on> | cat /etc/debian_version |
08:59 | <on> | i have 4.0 |
08:59 | <stew> | on: you can compare your installed version of libc6 to those available from http://packages.debian.org/libc6 |
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09:01 | <on> | my ii libc6 is 2.5-9+b1 |
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09:01 | <stew> | on: right, which is much newer than what is available from stable which is 2.3.6.ds1-13 |
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09:01 | <phx_wk> | hello |
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09:02 | <on> | stew: arrrrrrrrrrrg ! |
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09:02 | <on> | stew: how can I manage with that ? |
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09:02 | <phx_wk> | I'm creating a debian package and I have one question about update files |
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09:03 | <stew> | on: libc6 is probably the most critical package on your machine, as every c program is linked against it (it prvovides the most basic of library functions for c) and the symbols in libc6 are not versioned |
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09:03 | <stew> | on: you can either manually downgrade everything newer than stable, you can upgrade everything to testing, or you can reinstall |
09:03 | <on> | stew: so I have to give up install xen on my computer....if not I will crash my computer ...sniff |
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09:04 | <phx_wk> | want I upgrade my package with apt, I want the system to ask me if I want to keep the current file or install the maintener's one |
09:04 | <on> | stew: I think it will be quicker to install a new etch from scratch.... |
09:05 | <phx_wk> | but I don't understant how to do that |
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09:05 | <on> | stew: thanks !! |
09:06 | <stew> | phx_wk: hit Y to get the maintaner version, hit "N" to keep yours, or "D" to see a diff of the two |
09:06 | <stew> | phx_wk: or hit ? for an explanation |
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09:06 | <phx_wk> | I want that question yes |
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09:06 | <DTE> | hi all |
09:06 | <phx_wk> | stew: but I don't know how to to that in my rules file |
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09:07 | <DTE> | finally i setup a little cluster with 2 hosts, drbd and ocfs2 |
09:07 | <phx_wk> | or is it in the postinst ? |
09:07 | <DTE> | i'd like to use it as a postfix cluster |
09:07 | <stew> | phx_wk: oh, you are creating a package. you need to have the file listed in .conffiles, where is the file being installed? |
09:07 | <DTE> | if i share the mailboxes and i leave two indipendent queues on the hosts is it going to be right? |
09:08 | <phx_wk> | stew: thx, I will search that way |
09:08 | <stew> | phx_wk: generally, anything in /etc/ would be automatically marked as a conffile. if it is a configuration file, it should probably be in /etc |
09:09 | <Metalqga> | lol a quote worthy of an award "These companies (AMD and Nvidia) are complete morons in the grand scheme of things, for their behavior over the drivers for their hardware in linux." |
09:09 | <phx_wk> | stew: I put it in /etc, that's ok now, thx a lot |
09:09 | <on> | Are there any solution while upgrading version, not to answer questions that we are asked ? (something equivalent to -y for fsck) ? |
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09:12 | <tamtam> | hey :) i need some minor help with kde. |
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09:13 | <tamtam> | how can i make the background for the text under the desktop symbols transparent? |
09:13 | <tamtam> | i clicked myself stupid -- but found nothing |
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09:20 | <kaktuskatta> | themill: I |
09:20 | <kaktuskatta> | sudo: ifconfig: command not found |
09:20 | <kaktuskatta> | Why do I get this one? |
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09:22 | <Rajohan> | if i write is internaltimer 10 1 function will it then run every 10ms or evry 10 secound? |
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09:23 | <Metalqga> | dont use : |
09:24 | <petemc> | kaktuskatta: ifconfig isnt in your users path |
09:24 | <petemc> | as its in /sbin/ |
09:25 | <kaktuskatta> | petemc: how do I fix that? |
09:25 | <petemc> | use the full path |
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09:26 | <petemc> | or change the PATH variable |
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09:29 | <fabministrator> | Hey how to configure alsa when downloaded? |
09:29 | <stew> | fabministrator: alsaconf ; alsamixer |
09:29 | <fabministrator> | thank you |
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09:34 | <kaktuskatta> | petemc: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... |
09:34 | <kaktuskatta> | set (8BE2): Invalid argument |
09:34 | <kaktuskatta> | Failed to bring up wlan0. |
09:34 | <kaktuskatta> | have you seen this one before? |
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09:35 | <fabministrator> | Hello, I tried alsaconf but it said: command ntot found. What packages am i missing? |
09:36 | <witte> | fabministrator: do you have alsa-utils |
09:36 | <fabministrator> | yup |
09:36 | <witte> | alsaconf is in /usr/sbin |
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09:36 | <kaktuskatta> | themill: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... |
09:36 | <kaktuskatta> | set (8BE2): Invalid argument |
09:36 | <kaktuskatta> | Failed to bring up wlan0. |
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09:38 | <jamesuk> | I'm trying to upgrade from sarge to etch on a kuro box, dist-upgrade gives the following error. What does this mean, can any one help me? |
09:38 | <jamesuk> | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
09:38 | <jamesuk> | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
09:38 | <petemc> | !force loopbreak |
09:38 | <dpkg> | 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'. Fix suggested by xk. Then you can remove or purge outdated packages after the upgrade. if you are getting this message about e2fsproogs, ask me about <e2fsprogs loop> |
09:38 | <fabministrator> | I don't have alsaconf in my /usr/sbin :S |
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09:40 | <witte> | fabministrator: can you do " dpkg -l|grep alsa-utils" |
09:41 | <fabministrator> | I'll try |
09:41 | <fabministrator> | nvm got it |
09:41 | <fabministrator> | dI isntalled alsa-tools |
09:41 | <fabministrator> | i didnt do alsa-utils xD |
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09:43 | <jamesuk> | dpgk - thanks for the advice, I believe its only a e2fsproogs problem. Some where is said this could break my system. What's that all about? |
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09:48 | <kaktuskatta> | themill: Did you experience this problem? |
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09:51 | <aricz> | byebye ubuntu, hello debian .. ahhh :) |
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09:55 | <dino> | i have a question about samba: if someone creates a file on an open shared folder its always owned by nobody - is it possible to set another user? |
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09:58 | <fabministrator> | hey |
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09:58 | <fabministrator> | Where can I edit my sources.apt file and where can i find the sources i can add. I cant make a connection to security.,debian.org so thats why i ask |
09:59 | <petemc> | /etc/apt/ |
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09:59 | <monra> | hello |
10:00 | <fabministrator> | Ok where can i Find the correct lines to add? |
10:00 | <monra> | I do apt-get update but at the end i get: W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
10:00 | <monra> | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones use d instead. |
10:00 | <Metalqga> | !sources.list |
10:00 | <dpkg> | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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10:00 | <monra> | any ideas how can i fix this? |
10:02 | <monra> | dpkg, i got sarge |
10:02 | <fabministrator> | I have that security but the percentagre stays on 0% |
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10:03 | <fabministrator> | are the servers done? |
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10:03 | <goatmale> | Hello. |
10:03 | <goatmale> | How can I change my keyboard layout in debian? |
10:04 | <streuner> | !keymap |
10:04 | <dpkg> | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx, or in console you can also use loadkeys (for once) |
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10:04 | <jamesuk> | after running "apt-get -f install" I get the following errors, any ideas? |
10:04 | <jamesuk> | Preconfiguring packages ... |
10:04 | <jamesuk> | dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. |
10:04 | <jamesuk> | dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. |
10:04 | <jamesuk> | NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
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10:05 | <witte> | monra: dpkg is a bot, and sarge is oldstable |
10:05 | <monra> | witte, i know sarge is old but that's what i use |
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10:06 | <witte> | monra: maybe one of your repositories does not have sarge any more... |
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10:06 | <monra> | I just wanna make my Debian 3.1 LAMP |
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10:08 | <stew> | monra: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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10:08 | <witte> | monra: the error says that he cannot find all the repositories in your sources.list, but normally this is not a real problem, as long as he can find one |
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10:09 | <monra> | W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
10:09 | <monra> | B5D0C804ADB11277 |
10:09 | <monra> | W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
10:09 | <monra> | B5D0C804ADB11277 |
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10:09 | <monra> | hey |
10:09 | <staj> | hi |
10:09 | <monra> | stew ? |
10:09 | <goatmale> | yes please. |
10:09 | <stew> | monra: sounds like you aren't running sarge anymore |
10:09 | <monra> | heh? |
10:10 | <streuner> | monra: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
10:10 | <stew> | monra: show us the output of "apt-cache policy libc6" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
10:10 | <stew> | monra: (please don't paste in the channel) |
10:10 | <monra> | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
10:10 | <streuner> | !info libc6 sarge |
10:10 | <qbit> | heh |
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10:10 | <monra> | so i got sarge? |
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10:11 | <dpkg> | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6 (sarge), Packaged size: 4771 kB, Installed size: 15320 kB |
10:11 | <stew> | monra: you are running an older version of etch from sometime before it became stable |
10:11 | <monra> | anyway |
10:11 | <stew> | monra: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
10:11 | <stew> | monra: you need to finish upgradeing to etch |
10:11 | <jamesuk> | i've just been kicked by a bot, what does that mean? |
10:12 | <witte> | !paste |
10:12 | <dpkg> | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
10:12 | <monra> | ok |
10:12 | <monra> | anyway |
10:12 | <streuner> | jamesuk: only paste 2 lines here, everything more than 3 lines is flooding |
10:12 | <monra> | i want to do this now: apt-get install apache2 php4 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server |
10:12 | <jamesuk> | are OK, thanks. i.e. keep messages short. |
10:12 | <stew> | monra: finish upgrading to etch first |
10:13 | <monra> | stew, isn't possible to do it now? |
10:13 | <stew> | monra: it is |
10:13 | <aricz> | hallo, anyone remember which package to fetch to get mouse-support in virtual console ? |
10:13 | <monra> | could you help me? |
10:13 | <stew> | monra: sure |
10:13 | <stew> | monra: what exactly do you need help with? |
10:13 | <monra> | i want to make my pc a LAMP |
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10:13 | <craigevil> | aricz: gpm - General Purpose Mouse Interface' |
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10:13 | <monra> | so that i can host files that would be able someone to see on ne |
10:14 | <monra> | net* |
10:14 | <jamesuk> | after running "apt-get -f install" I get some errors; dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. what should I do? |
10:14 | <stew> | monra: and what exactly do you need help with? |
10:14 | <aricz> | craigevil : ah, thank you |
10:14 | <monra> | i tried the command i gave before and got error |
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10:14 | <streuner> | jamesuk: paste the output to pasterbot, running apt-get -f install |
10:14 | <stew> | monra: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
10:14 | <jamesuk> | streuner: sorry, how do I paste that? |
10:15 | <stew> | monra: i saw a warning about missing public keys |
10:15 | <monra> | 1 min |
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10:15 | <streuner> | jamesuk: http://paste.debian.net |
10:16 | <monra> | stew, here you are: http://pastebin.com/m57269ffc |
10:16 | <jamesuk> | streuner: done, pasted. |
10:16 | <streuner> | jamesuk: we need the URL |
10:17 | <jamesuk> | streuner: http://paste.debian.net/33073 |
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10:17 | <stew> | monra: you are trying to mix sarge, etch, and lenny, (oldstable, stable, and testing). mixing multiple releases is neither recommended, nor supported. i recommend that you try to move your box to etch, which will require removing the bits from lenny aka testing, and then following the upgrade procedure for sarge->etch : /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
10:18 | <streuner> | jamesuk: fine, show us your sources.list as well |
10:18 | <monra> | stew, isn't possible to do anthing now? |
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10:19 | <stew> | monra: sure there is. i can see from there that php4 is from lenny, i recommend removing this, then editing your sources.list so that it doesn't point to stable, testing, etch, or lenny, and point it to sarge, then follow the upgrade procedure for sarge->etch |
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10:20 | <monra> | ok, how can i do it point to sarge? |
10:20 | <stew> | monra: man sources.list ; sensible-editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
10:20 | <jamesuk> | streuner: http://paste.debian.net/33074 |
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10:21 | <streuner> | jamesuk: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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10:22 | <jamesuk> | streuner: "ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries" |
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10:23 | <streuner> | jamesuk: i cannot see an error in sources.list and libc6 is also fine; how did you manage to break dpkg? |
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10:24 | <streuner> | !find update-rc.d |
10:25 | <jamesuk> | streuner: I've got a http://www.kurobox.com/mwiki/index.php/Kurobox/Kurobox-HG_Main_Page, tried to dist-upgrade sarge->etch, problems with e2fsprogs |
10:25 | <dpkg> | Debian Search of 'update-rc.d' (5): (/usr/sbin/update-rc.d-insserv) in misc/insserv ;; (/usr/share/sysvinit/update-rc.d) in admin/sysvinit ;; (/usr/sbin/update-rc.d) in admin/file-rc,admin/sysv-rc ;; (/usr/share/zsh/4.3.4/functions/Completion/Debian/_update-rc.d) in shells/zsh ;; (/usr/share/zsh-beta/4.3.4-dev-0/functions/Completion/Debian/_update-rc.d) in shells/zsh-beta. |
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10:25 | <jamesuk> | streuner: I was told here, today. that I should force apt-get LOOP some thing or another, I'll check what it was |
10:26 | <streuner> | jamesuk: ls -l /usr/sbin/update-rc.d |
10:26 | <jamesuk> | streuner: "apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade" |
10:26 | <stew> | jamesuk: no you should not have to do that, what are you trying to do? |
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10:26 | <stew> | jamesuk: what package is causing you to LoopBreak? e2fsprogs? |
10:27 | <streuner> | http://paste.debian.net/33073 |
10:27 | <jamesuk> | struner: "ls: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d: No such file or directory" |
10:27 | <stew> | jamesuk: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop |
10:27 | <stew> | jamesuk: is the sysv-rc package installed? |
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10:27 | <streuner> | jamesuk: ok, just install that by hand |
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10:27 | <jamesuk> | stew: no idea |
10:27 | <streuner> | knusper:/# dpkg -S /usr/sbin/update-rc.d |
10:27 | <streuner> | sysv-rc: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d |
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10:28 | <jamesuk> | streuner: install what |
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10:28 | <streuner> | jamesuk: dpkg -l sysv-rc |
10:28 | <stew> | jamesuk: what gets returned when you run: aptitude search '~E!~i' |
10:28 | <jamesuk> | streuner: No packages found matching sysv-rc |
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10:28 | <streuner> | hm |
10:28 | <stew> | jamesuk: is file-rc installed? |
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10:29 | <jamesuk> | streuner: aptitude not installed |
10:29 | <streuner> | jamesuk: via pdo |
10:29 | <streuner> | just download the package and install update-rc.d |
10:30 | <streuner> | the package system MUST work, otherwise you are fucked |
10:30 | <jamesuk> | streuner: where do I get update-rc.d from? |
10:30 | <jamesuk> | stew: file-rc seems to be installed |
10:31 | <streuner> | hm |
10:31 | <streuner> | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fs%2Fsysvinit%2Fsysv-rc_2.86.ds1-38_all.deb&md5sum=ca331c39e2c76117896a43f01932b6a1&arch=all&type=main |
10:31 | <stew> | jamesuk: then you should have /usr/sbin/update-rc.d ; are you sure it doesn't exist? |
10:32 | <stew> | jamesuk: what version of file-rc is installed? |
10:32 | <jamesuk> | stew: how do you get the package version? |
10:32 | <stew> | jamesuk: "apt-cache policy packagename" will tell you under "Installed" |
10:33 | <stew> | jamesuk: also please check if sysvinit is installed |
10:33 | <jamesuk> | streuner: you want me to install that package then? dpkg -i xxx.deb ?? |
10:33 | <streuner> | yes, try that |
10:33 | <stew> | streuner: why? |
10:34 | <jamesuk> | stew: file-rc not installed. |
10:34 | <streuner> | if you want help him, just do that, but dont start a convo about |
10:35 | <stew> | streuner: well he was saying that he running file-rc, and it seems he is not on etch yet, so i would question instlling etch sysv-rc to replace pre-etch file-rc |
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10:35 | <stew> | but if he isnt' running file-rc, i dunno |
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10:36 | <streuner> | stew: sources.list and libc6 _are_ etch |
10:36 | <stew> | streuner: yes |
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10:37 | <jamesuk> | streuner: what you want me to do then? |
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10:37 | <stew> | streuner: but if he was running etch or sarge, he wouldn't have had to force-loopbreak for e2fsprogs |
10:38 | <streuner> | jamesuk: we told you |
10:38 | <streuner> | (you need update-rc.d) |
10:38 | <jamesuk> | stew: the debian install came from here http://www.kurobox.com/mwiki/index.php/Debian_install not a standard debian install |
10:39 | <Skyrail> | Are there any torrents for the minimal/network install? |
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10:39 | <jamesuk> | streuner: tried installing, error: "NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin." |
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10:40 | <gsimmons> | Skyrail: Yes. You'd want to visit <http://www.us.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/>. |
10:40 | <streuner> | Skyrail: do you want seed those? |
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10:40 | <streuner> | Skyrail: if not, just download them via http |
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10:40 | <streuner> | jamesuk: ok, now its get *dirty* ;-) |
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10:41 | <jamesuk> | streuner: great |
10:41 | <streuner> | jamesuk: use "ar x foo.deb" and copy them into the folders |
10:41 | <s-andy> | hi! does anyone know if fromif option in tc works? |
10:41 | <stew> | jamesuk: show us the full output from trying to install sysv-rc |
10:41 | <stew> | jamesuk: (use a pastebin) |
10:41 | <Skyrail> | I only want the minimal install not the full blown 21 discs or whatever but even though it's only 180mb or so it'd be a pain if my connection cut out...or something also it'd be nice to seed to aid the community :D |
10:42 | <jamesuk> | strew: http://paste.debian.net/33076 |
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10:42 | <streuner> | s/them/minimal network iso/ ;-) |
10:43 | <stew> | jamesuk: "dpkg -x sysv-rc_2.86.ds1-38_all.deb /" then try again |
10:43 | <kaktuskatta> | I've tried following the link on http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=85692&sid=afaad0502015f72ca0bf90af2512528a#85692, but I get an errormessage as I type sudo ifup wlan0 |
10:43 | <kaktuskatta> | the errormessage is: "Interface doesn't accept private ioctl..." |
10:44 | <jamesuk> | stew: that work. |
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10:44 | <stew> | jamesuk: is sysvinit installed? |
10:45 | <kaktuskatta> | So if anyone can tell me what this means and what I have to do, I would be pleased:) |
10:45 | <stew> | jamesuk: id recommend installing aptitude, then using it to make sure you have all of the "essential" packages installed with: aptitude install '~E!~i' |
10:45 | <jamesuk> | stew: sysvinit not installed |
10:46 | <Skyrail> | Are either KDE or Gnome included on the netinstall? |
10:46 | <streuner> | none |
10:46 | <stew> | jamesuk: try apt-get -f install sysvinit e2fsprogs aptitude |
10:46 | <jamesuk> | I was planning to install aptitude, but I can't because of these issues. |
10:46 | <stew> | streuner: the netinstall is only the packages for a base system |
10:46 | <streuner> | Skyrail: as the name says itselfs, its a basic netinstall, no need for extra packages |
10:46 | <stew> | jamesuk: try to install it now, and show us the output |
10:47 | <Skyrail> | streuner: ah ok :) just the basics, haha makes sense, thanks |
10:47 | <jamesuk> | stew: http://paste.debian.net/33077 |
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10:48 | <streuner> | hehe *cough* |
10:48 | <streuner> | just remove those packages and reinstall them again |
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10:50 | <streuner> | (NOT ANY essential package) |
10:51 | <streuner> | What a mess |
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10:51 | <jamesuk> | streuner: was, that to me? Remove those packages? |
10:52 | <streuner> | yes |
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10:52 | <jamesuk> | streunder: thanks, I'll give it a go now. |
10:52 | <streuner> | good luck |
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10:57 | <streuner> | someday i need to create an aptitude-smite command ;-) |
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10:58 | <jamesuk> | streunder: seems to be working. It's installing a lot of stuff |
10:58 | <streuner> | !congratulate jamesuk |
10:58 | <dpkg> | Nice one jamesuk, you did it! |
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11:01 | <streuner> | kaktuskatta: try #wireless at FN (irc.freenode.net) |
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11:06 | <ranix> | hey guys, where are the default desktop backgrounds that come with an install located? |
11:06 | <ranix> | I looked in usr/share/desktop-base and don't see em, so I got confused |
11:06 | <ranix> | also aren't in usr/share/pixmaps |
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11:08 | <ranix> | ah nevermind, I just found them |
11:08 | <ranix> | usr/share/images/desktop-base |
11:08 | <ranix> | thanks anyhow |
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11:09 | <kam87> | Hello this may seem like a silly wuestion but i have a script placed in /etc/init.d/ that i can run by typing /etc/init.d/foo start and it works and all but it wont run on bootup. is there any way to "add" it to the list if things that get run during bootup |
11:09 | <kam87> | oops |
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11:10 | <kam87> | client ate my message |
11:10 | <ranix> | you want to check out /etc/rcS.d |
11:10 | <kam87> | ah thanx |
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11:10 | <witte> | kam87: it has to be in a /etc/rc.. directory |
11:10 | <ranix> | it runs scripts that start with S##foo, where # is a digit and foo is a string |
11:10 | <witte> | kam87: look at update-rc.d |
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11:11 | <kam87> | thanx |
11:11 | <witte> | kam87: and its manual ;-) |
11:13 | <|dennis|> | Question: As per bug 418344, the problem of CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH_CACHED being set to y has been taken care of and the bug has been closed, how ever i have updated many of my systems and still find that option is enabled in etch with now kernel version 2.6.18-4, is there any particular reason why? |
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11:14 | <Skyrail> | Can you burn multiple ISOs to disc and be able to boot off any of them? It's just that the netinstall is only 150 or so mb's :/ |
11:14 | <streuner> | CD-RW are helpful for these things... |
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11:15 | <marcdon> | hi |
11:15 | <Skyrail> | lol, yet another fair point, I dismissed CD-RWs after having problems with them in the past whilst trying to get ISOs to work :) |
11:16 | <kam87> | i remember i had a drive that only liked pressed disks. drove me nuts untill i finally stuck a pressed install disk into it. |
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11:20 | <goatmale> | Is there a command line program that can do ftp? |
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11:22 | <goatmale> | is there a command line program that gmhthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhb |
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11:23 | <ranix> | uh |
11:24 | <ranix> | goatmale: man ftp |
11:24 | <prahal_> | lftp |
11:24 | <ranix> | ftp |
11:24 | <ranix> | I hope you are a troll |
11:25 | <twb> | I am |
11:25 | <twb> | All ur billy goats are belong to me |
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11:25 | <ranix> | but not a big enough troll to ask if there is a command line client that can "do ftp" |
11:25 | <ranix> | I think you got outtrolled |
11:26 | <twb> | Asking dumb questions isn't trolling. |
11:26 | <twb> | Asking the SAME dumb question for five years is trolling. |
11:26 | <grummund> | Hi, any suggestions for a wiki package please? apt-cache search wiki throws up dozens... i'm looking for something to maintain a set of web bookmarks, and a few private scratch pages |
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11:27 | <twb> | grummund: what interface do you want? Local, or web browser, or both? |
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11:28 | <grummund> | twb: web browser, to be accessed from the internet but with a private login |
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11:28 | <goatmale> | i am sorry for my dumb questions |
11:28 | <twb> | Then you can reduce the list by filtering for dependencies on httpd or httpd-cgi |
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11:29 | <twb> | goatmale: don't worry about it. |
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11:31 | <grummund> | twb: i can do that with apt-cache? |
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11:32 | <twb> | I don't know. You can do it with aptitude thusly: aptitude search ~dwiki~Dhttpd |
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11:35 | <jdhore> | Hi, I'm running Lenny and i'm wondering, what's with all the upgrades to the C packages that conflict with a lot of m packages that end with -dev? |
11:35 | <twb> | Of course, that might not catch stuff written in e.g. php, which will instead depend on php[45] |
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11:35 | <twb> | jdhore: you mean libc? |
11:36 | <jdhore> | twb, libc, gcc, cpp and a few others |
11:36 | <jdhore> | (but i think mainly those 3) |
11:36 | <twb> | libc6 was upgraded to 2.6 in Sid a little while back. This might be entering Lenny now, I don't know. |
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11:37 | <jdhore> | It is slated for upgrade (it has been for a few days), but when i select it for upgrade in Synaptic, it tells me it's removing a lot of packages |
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11:42 | <twb> | Doesn't synaptic offer you a number of different ways to resolve conflicts? |
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11:46 | <jdhore> | twb, it doesn't seem to be...update-manager is letting me upgrade some packages (cpp, g++, gcc, libgsf, libstdc++), but the 10 or so others i can't upgrade |
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11:56 | <salparadise> | anyone know where to find a solid knoppix irc channel? |
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11:56 | <zyre> | hola |
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11:58 | [~] | fxiny burps . sounds_of_nature.mp3 |
11:58 | <twb> | jdhore: if you use aptitude, it allows you to pick an automatic resolution, or to manually resolve the conflict. |
11:58 | <jdhore> | twb, i found out the problem |
11:58 | <jdhore> | it was because of not having linux-libc-dev |
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12:03 | <bykar> | everyday i update debian-sid with dselect the new packages are shown on top. Where ist this information? I want to see this in apt-get, not dselect, anybody knows? |
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12:13 | <twb> | bykar: aptitude search ~N |
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12:27 | <fractus> | Helo people |
12:27 | <Kalessin> | hello |
12:28 | <fractus> | to the Core Duo processors is te IA64 ??? |
12:28 | <Kalessin> | http://www.mousur.org/pastebin/index.php?show=38 < If somebody have an idea about this 2 problems you are welcome =) |
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12:31 | <DTE> | fractus: as far as i know the core duo no |
12:31 | <DTE> | the core 2 duo maybe |
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12:32 | <quasisane> | the core duo, core 2 duo, etc. are not IA64 |
12:32 | <quasisane> | IA64 = Itanium |
12:32 | <DTE> | ah yes...sorry i was meaning x86_64 |
12:32 | <quasisane> | ah |
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12:33 | <quasisane> | yeah, either i386 or AMD64 will work on the core duo family |
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12:33 | <DTE> | the core 2 duo |
12:33 | <DTE> | but not the core duo |
12:33 | <quasisane> | ah |
12:33 | <fractus> | humm un seg |
12:34 | <DTE> | for the core duo i'm sure cause i own one ;-) |
12:34 | [~] | quasisane makes a note |
12:34 | <quasisane> | :) |
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12:35 | <DTE> | for the core 2 duo i'm just waiting a macbook pro |
12:35 | <fractus> | mi boss confirm that is a 64 bit processor |
12:36 | <ranix> | anyone know how I can run supertux windowed? |
12:36 | <DTE> | right...anyone have installed debian on a mac notebook? |
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12:36 | <fractus> | DTE: is a core 2 duo 64bit |
12:37 | <DTE> | but the other hardware? |
12:37 | <fractus> | DTE: whats the correct iso to it?? http://debian.pop-sc.rnp.br/mirror/debian-cd/current/ia64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
12:37 | <DTE> | wireless and other things? |
12:37 | <bzed> | !ia64 |
12:37 | <dpkg> | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64 |
12:37 | <DTE> | fractus: you need x86_64 not IA64 (as quasisane said) |
12:38 | <bzed> | fractus: amd64 is what you're looking for. |
12:39 | <bzed> | fractus: if you prefer a 32bit evironment, you could install i386, too. or install i386 and a 64bit kernel. |
12:39 | <fractus> | :S |
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12:40 | <fractus> | IA64 is for that processors? |
12:40 | <DTE> | for the itanium processor |
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12:41 | <fractus> | DTE: ok its clear now |
12:41 | <DTE> | uhm...is possibile to say to lvs how to balance the connection to a cluster? |
12:42 | <fractus> | conclusion.. IA64 is for the lastest 64bit gamma processor of Intel |
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12:47 | [~] | fractus http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA64 |
12:47 | [~] | fractus http://wikipedia.org/wiki/IA64 |
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12:59 | <twb> | fractus: not all 64-bit Intel chips are IA64. Many are AMD64. |
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13:00 | <Debian> | is there any way to restore a MBR if I wiped the partition containing it and I have no backup floppy? |
13:00 | |-| | Debian changed nick to bathat |
13:00 | <fractus> | twb: well.. to the Core 2 Duo whats the correct ISO? |
13:00 | <twb> | I don't know. |
13:00 | <lontra> | bathat: use a livecd to reinstall grub |
13:00 | <twb> | I'm not sure it's even 64-bit. |
13:00 | <patricio> | I am running 2.6.18-4-686 and I have a website for my real estate biz....I changed hosts the other day and for some reason when I load the site it shows me the old site, not the new one, and I have contacted my service provider and they can see the new site. Shouldn't I be able to view the site as I and the provider are using the same DNS? My question is, how do I update or clear the cache on my debian side to view the correct site? |
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13:01 | <DTE> | fractus: the core 2 duo should run amd64 but on a xeon i got some problem with amd64 |
13:01 | <DTE> | so i switched to i386 |
13:01 | <bathat> | lontra: yes, with grub-install, right? |
13:01 | <Supaplex> | patricio: cache is most usually your browser |
13:01 | <fxiny> | bathat: apt-cache show gpart |
13:02 | <bathat> | gparted? |
13:02 | <fxiny> | gpart |
13:02 | <bathat> | the problem is that nothing seems to be able to detect my hdd |
13:02 | <bathat> | when i do: fdisk -l, only my secondary drive shows up |
13:02 | <patricio> | Supaplex: I agree, but for some strange reason it is still pointing to the old DNS.....I do a whois and it is correct, I have given it time to propagate throughout the internet......any suggestions? |
13:02 | <bathat> | even though the only partition i wiped was /dev/sda1 |
13:03 | <DTE> | patricio: dig yourdomain.com what it say? |
13:03 | <twb> | bathat: is it listed in /proc/partitions? |
13:03 | <fractus> | DTE: amd64 = x86-64 hummm but if not work on mi Core 2 Duo I will to install with a i386 iso? |
13:04 | <DTE> | fractus: yes...but it should work with amd64 |
13:04 | <patricio> | DTE: one moment please |
13:04 | <bathat> | twb, not sure |
13:04 | <Supaplex> | patricio: if it's dns, you can either use your own /etc/hosts to overcome update delays, or clever use of http_proxy="http://new.ip.ip.ip/" GET http://www.example.com/ | less |
13:04 | <twb> | x86-64 is the politically correct way to refer to AMD64; i.e. it tries to hide the embarrasing fact (for intel) that they're using a different manufacturer's design |
13:04 | <fxiny> | bathat: let gpart guess , remember to mount it read only |
13:04 | <twb> | bathat: maybe you should check |
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13:05 | <fractus> | DTE: ok man.. thanks.. I'll try with a amd64 first |
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13:05 | <twb> | Supaplex: heh, I got very confused yesterday using netcat on an httpd -- after I closed netcat GET still worked. WTF?, I thinks. |
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13:05 | <tuzhila> | i have amd65 and i installed debian etch on my computer, why i've got smp kernel? |
13:05 | <twb> | Little did I realize GET(1) was a command. Bizarro! |
13:05 | <patricio> | DTE: doin a 'dig' shows me the old DNS |
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13:06 | <twb> | tuzhila: there's no need for separate UMP and SMP kernels for the amd64 arch. |
13:06 | <bathat> | the debian cd is not considered a live cd, right? the only function it has is to install debian? |
13:06 | <DTE> | patricio: probably then your dns stil have to update |
13:06 | <tuzhila> | twb, why? |
13:06 | <patricio> | Supaplex: yeah |
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13:06 | <bathat> | i tried the 'rescue' command, but it just went on to install |
13:06 | <twb> | tuzhila: that's what the UMP dummy packages say |
13:06 | <delire> | tuzhila: x86-65? impressive! |
13:06 | <DTE> | sometimes you have to wait till 2-3 days |
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13:06 | <patricio> | DTE: the service provider I have can view the 'new site' with no problem..... |
13:07 | <delire> | 65 bit computing "Sometimes you just need that little bit extra" |
13:07 | <DTE> | patricio: try to do dig @someotherdnsserver yourdomain.dot |
13:07 | <tuzhila> | i don't understand |
13:07 | <delire> | 20:05 < tuzhila> i have amd65 and i installed debian etch on my computer, |
13:07 | <twb> | delire: there have been stranger word lengths in the past |
13:07 | <patricio> | DTE: one moment please |
13:07 | [~] | delire nods |
13:08 | <twb> | !google Burroughs machine |
13:08 | <tuzhila> | oh, no, amd64 |
13:08 | <tuzhila> | ))) |
13:08 | <delire> | ;) |
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13:08 | <fxiny> | just 64 ? ask for refund :P |
13:08 | <tuzhila> | refund |
13:09 | <tuzhila> | you jerks)) |
13:09 | <delire> | hehe |
13:09 | <Supaplex> | twb: GET is a symlink/alias to lwp-agent. I decides default behavior based on $0 (arg0) |
13:09 | <patricio> | DTE: old DNS |
13:09 | <DTE> | does somebody knows these error? postfix/smtpd[6500]: warning: 192.168.30.122: address not listed for hostname cluster-1.zephyros.net |
13:09 | <twb> | Supaplex: yeah, I know that *now* |
13:09 | <patricio> | Could the problem be within my own LAN? |
13:09 | <twb> | I was solidly confused at the tim |
13:09 | <twb> | *e |
13:09 | <DTE> | patricio: then the dns' are stil with the old ips |
13:09 | <delire> | DTE the hostname is not resolving to that IP? |
13:09 | <ranix> | Burroughs machine? |
13:09 | <ranix> | William S? |
13:10 | <DTE> | delire: no...and it shouldn't |
13:10 | <delire> | DTE: i see ;) |
13:10 | <twb> | ranix: the net is vast and infinite. Ask it. |
13:10 | <Supaplex> | twb: haha. cool. |
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13:10 | <pc300> | I have been tortured by mason for my whole life |
13:10 | <ranix> | I like my Burroughs better than your Burroughs |
13:10 | <pc300> | tranquilizers |
13:10 | <patricio> | DTE: I fully understand that scenario.....but the confusing part is that the provider that I have is on the same DNS as me.......they can see the new site.....I can't |
13:10 | <ranix> | he farts ambrosia, you know |
13:10 | <ranix> | and confounds the Louvre |
13:10 | <DTE> | patricio: sometimes happen to me too... |
13:10 | <twb> | As do we all |
13:10 | <patricio> | very frustrating |
13:10 | <Supaplex> | patricio: you could use /etc/resolv.conf to ask the nameservers that know |
13:11 | <DTE> | when the provider uses some other dns as primary dns |
13:11 | <Supaplex> | personally I stage my sites, and use dnsmasq for dns. |
13:11 | <DTE> | and the customers use some other dns |
13:11 | <patricio> | Supaplex: tried that already |
13:11 | <patricio> | hhhmmmm |
13:11 | <bathat> | i should also mention that the initial error i received was 'GRUB error 5' |
13:11 | <DTE> | delire: i don't understand why postfix should thing the opposite |
13:11 | <gihad> | is there a debian help channel ? |
13:12 | <bathat> | so there is something wrong with the partition table |
13:12 | <patricio> | BINGO |
13:12 | <twb> | gihad: yes, in Venice |
13:12 | <twb> | There are gondolas on it |
13:12 | <patricio> | did a whois on my provider and there are 2 DNS entries that are different |
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13:13 | <gihad> | twb: Sorry, I didn't get that joke |
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13:14 | <twb> | "channel" is "canal" in a bunch of romance languages |
13:14 | <patricio> | brb guys......gonna try this...... |
13:14 | <bebert> | hi |
13:14 | <gihad> | twb: including my native language, portuguese. |
13:15 | <patricio> | hhhmmm |
13:15 | <patricio> | did not work |
13:16 | <delire> | DTE: i don't know either. i don't use postfix (though i'd like to) |
13:16 | <gihad> | "(Quit: Software is like sex: it's better when it's free !) " - Is that free as in "free speach" or as in "free bear" ? |
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13:16 | <patricio> | brb guys |
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13:16 | <gihad> | I mean, beer* |
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13:16 | <DTE> | delire: i'm trying now to change something...probably it's because a lvs system |
13:16 | <delire> | gihad: you have a whole lifetime to get it right. |
13:17 | <gihad> | delire: hahah, ok |
13:19 | <DTE> | nothing...i try to reboot everything |
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13:20 | <delire> | DTE: #postfix? |
13:20 | <DTE> | is there a channel? |
13:20 | [~] | fractus se ya people. thanks |
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13:21 | <gihad> | I need help please, Is there a way around the problem with building fglrx drivers on lenny(For ATI Radeon 3d acceleration), other than recompiling the kernel ? |
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13:22 | <pc300> | I have slept over 30hrs in the last 48 hrs |
13:23 | <gihad> | pc300: Are you sick ? |
13:23 | <pc300> | I moved out from my step parents house into a rooming house, and they were all masons and they did the same thing |
13:23 | <pc300> | I am being tortured by masons |
13:23 | <fxiny> | what lodge ? |
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13:24 | <DTE> | see you |
13:24 | <twb> | fxiny: aren't we all? |
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13:24 | <fxiny> | twb: i belong to the L.WALL lodge , not 33 degrees tough :) |
13:25 | <pc300> | pakistani lodge I guess |
13:25 | <twb> | Masons are just momma's boys |
13:25 | <bathat> | twb, /proc/partitions only shows sda and sda1, both the same size |
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13:25 | <pc300> | they are evil |
13:25 | <fxiny> | chapati and curries ? no tx ! |
13:25 | <twb> | All the rich kids muscling out the actual masons that started it |
13:26 | <twb> | Not cool. |
13:26 | <pc300> | they are beggers |
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13:26 | <fxiny> | pc300: do they drink that disgusting tea ? |
13:26 | <delire> | aren't the masons really just a old-boys club extrapolated into myth in order to help sell novels to people that need conversation material for awkward dinner parties? |
13:26 | <delire> | (i may be wrong.. but Umberto Eco does come to mind) |
13:26 | <ranix> | hey all, my Xterms used to be nice and black. I added a .Xdefaults file in my home directory and did xrdb ~/.Xdefaults and now my consoles are all white. What file used to control this behaviour? I'd like to find it and take a look at it |
13:27 | <twb> | delire: they're essentially a REALLY OLD analogue of trade secrets liscensors |
13:27 | <pc300> | they are sons of the devil |
13:27 | <delire> | twb: ahah, a Patent Brotherhood. i new it. |
13:27 | <twb> | ranix: you didn't use -merge |
13:27 | <delire> | *knew |
13:27 | <fxiny> | twb: i believe you belong to a lisp lodge ;) |
13:27 | <twb> | I do not. |
13:28 | <fxiny> | strange |
13:28 | <bathat> | fxiny, gpart just says 'begin scan' and just sits there |
13:28 | <ranix> | twb: how can I undo what I have done |
13:28 | <delire> | ranix: repent. |
13:28 | <twb> | ranix: kill X and log in again? |
13:28 | <fxiny> | bathat: let gpart scanning then |
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13:28 | <ranix> | hm ok |
13:28 | <fxiny> | who was the lisp marauder if not you ? |
13:29 | <pc300> | I think everyone who has a job is mason in Canada |
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13:29 | <fxiny> | i'd love to be a lisp addict , but unfortunately i am not |
13:29 | <twb> | pc300: OH&S requires it? |
13:29 | <pc300> | Well, all immigrants are masons |
13:29 | <delire> | fxiny: 'Lisp Marauder': someone that takes advantage of people's speech impediments? |
13:29 | <twb> | fxiny: what's stopping you? |
13:29 | <pc300> | what is OH&S? |
13:30 | <bathat> | if the only thing I wiped was the MBR partition, why is the hdd not detected at all? |
13:30 | <delire> | pc300: we're all immigrants |
13:30 | <twb> | occupational health and safety |
13:30 | <patricio> | ok: with my issue I did find that my provider actually uses 4 DNS entries.....the 2 extra ones I found were not given to me by the provider.....so I made those changes and I still get the old site.......does anyone have any ideas? |
13:30 | <twb> | delire: there are canadian aborigines |
13:30 | <fxiny> | delire: speach&dialects are lisp parents |
13:30 | <delire> | twb: they're immigrants too |
13:30 | <delire> | fxiny: hehe |
13:30 | <twb> | naturalized |
13:30 | <fxiny> | twb: are you inviting me to your lodge ? ;) |
13:30 | <delire> | a horrible word isn't it.. |
13:31 | <twb> | Plonk |
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13:32 | <ranix> | OK, another question. How do I use the Windows key to do stuff? I want it to expand a yeahconsole. I currently have yeahconsole*togglekey:ControlAlt+y |
13:32 | <ranix> | how would I change that to function on the windows key |
13:32 | <delire> | ranix: look at .xmodmap perhaps? |
13:32 | <fxiny> | style is the property of perl and python . lisp has no style |
13:32 | <ranix> | thanks delire |
13:32 | <pc300> | so how can you escape mason persecution |
13:32 | <pc300> | I tried to run away to Pakistan but they picked me up from the airport |
13:32 | <delire> | ranix: that should make it active. then expose it to your window manager for functional use. |
13:33 | <delire> | pc300: the Americans? |
13:33 | <patricio> | I fully understand the issue with waiting for the dns changes to propagate throughout the internet, but it is confusing that my provider can see my new site, but I am not able too. I am currently using a dual boot sys and am having no luck in either Winderz or debian...... |
13:33 | <pc300> | pakistani masons |
13:33 | <delire> | oh |
13:33 | <pc300> | well, they are really just Jews |
13:33 | <delire> | New Yorkers? |
13:33 | <pc300> | Pakistan is a Jewish country |
13:34 | <delire> | i see. |
13:34 | <pc300> | It was fun though, they took me around |
13:34 | <fxiny> | politics sucks |
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13:34 | <pc300> | I guess you get used to it. I have been a slave of Pakistani Jews all my life |
13:35 | <delire> | pc300: why are you talking about this here? |
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13:35 | <pc300> | I have been getting drugged since childhood |
13:35 | <pc300> | I don't know where to turn |
13:35 | <delire> | pc300: blogging? |
13:35 | <delire> | pc300: http://blogger.com |
13:35 | <qbit> | debian? |
13:35 | <pc300> | I thought debian was about freedom |
13:35 | <qbit> | ;) |
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13:36 | <delire> | pc300: but you don't have much of that. |
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13:37 | <gihad> | Is there a way around the problem with building fglrx drivers on lenny(For ATI Radeon 3d acceleration), other than recompiling the kernel ? |
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13:38 | <delire> | gihad: have you asked in #ati? that's also a good place to ask. the fglrx drivers are troublesome from version to version. |
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13:38 | <gihad> | ok, thanks for the advice. |
13:38 | <delire> | gihad: have you tried the ati-installer-script? |
13:38 | <marcstun> | hi |
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13:39 | <delire> | gihad: that's what i do in the event ot everything else failing. |
13:39 | <delire> | s/ot/of |
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13:41 | <gihad> | delire: No, but there is an specific problem with lenny and the fglrx, it's a problem that most people are having. |
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13:41 | <marcstun> | how can I make a debdiff between 2 package only for debian changes? |
13:41 | <marcstun> | *packages |
13:41 | <delire> | gihad: right. you may just have to wait. this is common with ATI on Linux. |
13:41 | <gihad> | I heard that the problem will be solved when the kernel 2.6.22 comes out for lenny, any idea on when will that be ? |
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13:48 | <the_bull> | hey, all |
13:48 | <the_bull> | do nyone know how to *copy* in xterm? |
13:48 | <the_bull> | i used ctrl+shift+v in gnome-terminal |
13:48 | <the_bull> | but how about xterm? |
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13:49 | <the_bull> | hey, what is the copy command in xterm? |
13:50 | <the_bull> | i want to paste the copied text into xterm |
13:50 | <suiside> | the_bull: just mark it, and paste with middle mouse click |
13:50 | <stew> | the_bull: i don't believe there is a way by default, you cal only select |
13:50 | <stew> | the_bull: you can enable copy via resources |
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13:51 | <the_bull> | suiside, thnx |
13:51 | <the_bull> | it`s working |
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13:52 | <stew> | the_bull: just note that selecting doesn't copy anything into the clipboard the way gnome-terminal does, so you might find inconsistencies with other apps |
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13:55 | <Skyrail> | If a CD-RW has data on it already and I put an ISO onto it will I still be able to boot from it even if it has random junk on it? |
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13:56 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: do you have a floppy drive ? |
13:57 | <Skyrail> | fxiny: no, why? |
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13:59 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: so you cannot do a hard drive install booting the iso with grub |
14:00 | <Skyrail> | I'm doing a debian network install, I'm putting it onto a CD-RW and just going to set the motherboard to boot from disc to install it... |
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14:03 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: why don't you get a gnome/kde/xfce4 cd then ? |
14:03 | <fxiny> | just one |
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14:05 | <Skyrail> | I don't understand what your trying to get at here, all I want to do is install Debian afresh onto this system using the smallest download possible straight off which was the single net-install as opposed to the 21 discs, I don't need anything fancy, I just pop the CD and away I go I presume (I've installed various distros before off CD-Rs) I just want to know whether I can install off a disc which has other data on it besides the Debian package... |
14:06 | <fxiny> | if you burn the iso to boot from the cd your data will be lost |
14:06 | <fxiny> | so i was trying to see if your hardware allow you to boot from grub as to avoid burning |
14:07 | <fxiny> | you should know : burning a bootable iso overwrite youd data |
14:08 | <Skyrail> | Thankyou, that was the answer I was looking for, that means I'll have to copy the data off the CD then :) |
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14:10 | <Skyrail> | I have a linux distro installed already onto the PC and so surely that has the grub boot loader fxiny |
14:11 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: so you are ok . see debian official docs for "harwdare install" . check instrucitions about setting grub to boot your iso . do not burn anything :) |
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14:11 | <Skyrail> | fxiny: ok I'll see what I can dig up :) |
14:12 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: is very easy . just read how to edit grub menu |
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14:15 | <oem> | alguien habla español |
14:16 | <oem> | somebody speaks spanish? |
14:16 | <stew> | !es |
14:16 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
14:16 | <oem> | thank you |
14:17 | <oem> | gracias |
14:17 | <emonge> | oem, /join #debian-es |
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14:22 | <N`Kr1pt> | Hi, I have a simple question regarding a bash script. I want to split everything under /data in tarballs of 500GB. Any idea on how to do this? |
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14:25 | <kaktuskatta> | I've tried to get help on #wireless, but no response. I have problems with my wireless network. I've installed the drivers but can't get the interface up and running. What to do? |
14:25 | <kaktuskatta> | I've tried following the link on http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=85692&sid=afaad0502015f72ca0bf90af2512528a#85692, but I get an errormessage as I type sudo ifup wlan0 |
14:25 | <kaktuskatta> | the errormessage is: "Interface doesn't accept private ioctl..." |
14:26 | <arato> | !java |
14:26 | <dpkg> | Java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun partially released java as GPL on Nov 13, 2006 (rest expected to be released in 2007). There are other implentations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in etch/sid in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>, <non-free>. |
14:26 | <fxiny> | N`Kr1pt: 500GB ? |
14:26 | <fxiny> | split ? |
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14:27 | <arato> | how do i get the debhelper to msg me that? |
14:27 | <stew> | arato: /msg dpkg java |
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14:27 | <arato> | ooh that's it, thanks stew :) |
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14:29 | <N`Kr1pt> | fxiny, yes, /data is a LVM volume of 2 TB on RAID5, now we need to create some bacup on externam disks of 500GB. So I would like to create tarballs of 500G each of the 2TB volume and copy 1 tarball to 1 external disk as a backup |
14:30 | <barbo> | N`Kr1pt: use split |
14:30 | <fxiny> | N`Kr1pt: never done a 500G . see man split if i'm wrong : tar data.tar data | split -b 500G - |
14:31 | <N`Kr1pt> | OK, another solution could be to put the external disks in an LVM but if 1 disk dies, we are screwed |
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14:32 | <fxiny> | if you want a splitted tarball just pipe tar to split |
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14:32 | <Skyrail> | fxiny: I'm still trying to figure it out as it's asking me to download two files...of which I don't know where to look for, it says in the Debian Archives, but they're quite big heh |
14:32 | <djuLoq> | Yes I agree. Don't go LVM if you can't stand to loose the data |
14:33 | <kaktuskatta> | anyone here with wireless? |
14:33 | <fxiny> | or : dd if=/dev/hdxxx | gzip -c | split -b 2000m - /path/backup.img.gz |
14:33 | <djuLoq> | kaktuskatta; I've wireless |
14:34 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: yes . you need etch hd media : initrd.gz and vmlinuz . double check official debian manual for links |
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14:35 | <Skyrail> | fxiny: ok :/ |
14:35 | <Skyrail> | thanks |
14:35 | <kaktuskatta> | djuLoq: http://pastebin.com/d25a4b7f7 |
14:35 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: np |
14:35 | <kaktuskatta> | djuLoq: does this config look ok to you? |
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14:36 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current//images/hd-media/ |
14:36 | <fxiny> | something like that |
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14:37 | <enry> | help i have a lot of problems with my ipod |
14:37 | <enry> | i have to inizialize the database |
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14:39 | <Skyrail> | fxiny: haha thank you, saved me lots of time trying to scan the documents for the right link :/ |
14:40 | <fxiny> | Skyrail: make sure i gave you the right url . i've just digged it from my hd :) |
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14:40 | <Skyrail> | fxiny: yes it has the two files :) |
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14:42 | <gomorra2323> | ciao |
14:42 | <gomorra2323> | !list |
14:42 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to gomorra2323 |
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14:48 | <amphi> | haha |
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14:48 | <nightwalker> | hello |
14:49 | <Guest835> | Hello auch |
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14:54 | <N`Kr1pt> | fxiny, something comes to my mind. if I use tar data.tar data | split -b 500G - then I still cannot afford one of the disks dying, because I'll need all the tar parts to extract them right? |
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14:58 | <Skyrail> | netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz file and its corresponding kernel netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux. This will allow you to repartition the hard disk from which you boot the installer, although you should do so with care. <-- Even though I'm going to be using the net-inst I've already got a spare partition will I still have to download it? |
14:59 | <Skyrail> | Ah nevermind :) |
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15:05 | <yos87> | Hi, I have question, what is the best exif editor? gimp can edit exif metadata, But it's not easy and you cannot edit more the one pic in same time |
15:07 | <N`Kr1pt> | I always use a hex editor, but that's probably not what you're looking for |
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15:07 | <Rajohan> | http://pastebin.ca/628179 <-- someone know whats wrong+ |
15:08 | <yos87> | N`Krlpt: yea, it's not, before, in windows, I use to select all, and click properties, it will edit all pic discription in same time, it's easer, But that discriptions I'm not able to see here, so I have to write another metadata, a way like gimp, and hex editor will not work |
15:10 | <suiside> | Rajohan: this is debian support, ask in a scripting related channel |
15:11 | <suiside> | you'll propably have more luck getting an answer |
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15:11 | <yos87> | when I edit the metadata in debian, I could see it in windows |
15:12 | <yos87> | http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/ExifTagger |
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15:12 | <yos87> | i found this program here, i install it , but it's not working, it seems very good in the screenshot |
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15:14 | <N`Kr1pt> | This application requires GTK+ version 2.6.x. Do you have it? What error does it produce when you try to execute it from the shell? |
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15:15 | <bathat> | is it possible to restore the MBR after its been wiped if i have no backup and the hdd isn't even detected? |
15:15 | <bathat> | i tried a scan with gpart and it just shows 4 partitions, all unused |
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15:17 | <yos87> | N`Krlpt: can you see this please http://pastebin.ca/628206 |
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15:19 | <stew> | yos87: its a makefile, not a perlscript |
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15:21 | <ifvoid> | bathat_: what do you mean, the harddisk is not detected? |
15:21 | <yos87> | stew: the said like this on readme |
15:21 | <ifvoid> | yos87: no |
15:21 | <ifvoid> | yos87: it said perl Makefile.pl |
15:21 | <bathat_> | ifvoid, 'fdisk -l' output doesn't include the primary drive |
15:21 | <ifvoid> | and then run make |
15:21 | <yos87> | ifvoid: yes, I did l like this |
15:22 | <ifvoid> | bathat_: I'm not sure that means anything at all |
15:22 | <N`Kr1pt> | also, if you like to use a .deb package, you might give jBrout a try: http://jbrout.python-hosting.com/ |
15:22 | <ifvoid> | yos87: debian:/home/yosef/dbtr/28/exiftagger-0.42# perl Makefile |
15:22 | <yos87> | ifvoid: ok, after make, then what to do? |
15:22 | <bathat_> | well, the initial grub error i received was 'error 5' which means the partition table is corrupt, basically |
15:22 | <ifvoid> | yos87: nothing |
15:22 | <bathat_> | and fdisk only shows my secondary drive |
15:22 | <ifvoid> | yos87: just make install |
15:23 | <ifvoid> | (as root) |
15:23 | <bathat_> | gpart scan displays 4 partitions, all unused |
15:24 | <bathat_> | this all started when i wiped /dev/sda1 thinking it was the device assigned to the usb stick |
15:24 | <yos87> | ifvoid: i did, when i try to run it , it say can't locate image size ...... |
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15:24 | <bathat_> | and i assumed it was since the filesystem was W95 ext2 |
15:25 | <ifvoid> | bathat_: /dev/sda1 doesn't have an MBR |
15:25 | <yos87> | ifvoid: it's not working, what to do ? do I have to download again? |
15:25 | <ifvoid> | and the partition table should have been altered aither |
15:26 | <bathat_> | do you think it's possible the active flag is set incorrectly? |
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15:26 | <bathat_> | that's what i figured |
15:26 | <ifvoid> | yos87: why not just use an appliction that is in debian already? |
15:26 | <bathat_> | i |
15:26 | <ifvoid> | bathat_: it's possible, but linux doesn' care about the active flag |
15:26 | <bathat_> | i've tried many live cd's and none of them are able to mount the drive |
15:27 | <bathat_> | i'm wondering why the filesystem was W95 |
15:27 | <ifvoid> | and what do you mean by partitions that are "unused"? |
15:27 | <ifvoid> | like not mounted? or like no fs? |
15:27 | <ifvoid> | and what does fdisk say? |
15:28 | <yos87> | ifvoid: i tried to search on synaptic , i could'nt file one, can you tell me about one? |
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15:29 | <bathat_> | gpart just says 'type (unused)' |
15:29 | <bathat_> | and fdisk provides no partition information for the hdd containing the mbr |
15:29 | <bathat_> | only the secondary drive |
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15:29 | <ifvoid> | yos87: debian has lots of image viewers |
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15:30 | <ifvoid> | bathat_: seems your partition table was overwritten then |
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15:30 | <bathat_> | i don't know how that could have happened... |
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15:31 | <ifvoid> | yos87: feh, gthumbs, etc |
15:31 | <yos87> | ifvoid: I don't just want to view the images, I want to edit the exif metadata for many files in same time |
15:32 | <bathat_> | i only wiped /dev/sda1 and all the other partitions should have been left in place |
15:32 | <ifvoid> | oh, just use some command line utility then |
15:32 | <ifvoid> | exi2 or so |
15:33 | <bathat_> | so there is no way to backup important information on the drive... |
15:34 | <yos87> | ifvoid: it will not edit many file in same time |
15:34 | <ifvoid> | sure it will |
15:34 | <ifvoid> | for i in *.jpg; do exiv2 some option $i; done |
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15:39 | <yos87> | ifvoid: I install the windows exifer with wine, But when writting tags, it give error, it's not able to edit the file on the harddisk |
15:40 | <aycko> | hi i want to install a ftp daemon. |
15:40 | <aycko> | what daemon would u suggest me? |
15:40 | <N`Kr1pt> | aycko, I use pure-ftpd and am very positive about it |
15:40 | <ifvoid> | aycko: proftpd also seems to be fine |
15:40 | <ifvoid> | I've been using it in the past |
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15:41 | <aycko> | are they both ok securitywise? |
15:41 | <ifvoid> | aycko: should be, yes |
15:41 | <N`Kr1pt> | pure-ftpd is very secure |
15:41 | <ifvoid> | insofar as ftp can be secure to start with |
15:41 | <N`Kr1pt> | it's from the OpenBSD world and those guys are paranoid about ecurity ;) |
15:41 | <aycko> | ok thanks i will look into both ;) |
15:41 | <aycko> | hehe |
15:42 | <N`Kr1pt> | Pure-FTPd is actively supported, and it was always designed with security in mind, and the code is always re-audited as new kind of vulnerabilities are discussed. |
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15:44 | <aycko> | N`Kr1pt: thx the app looks very fine ;) |
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16:09 | <df1amb> | Hi I am trying to run a dvb-s card with a bt878 chipset but I cant access it ..... |
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16:10 | <df1amb> | all modules are loaded ... |
16:10 | <df1amb> | what went worng? |
16:11 | <df1amb> | /dev/video0 is not created by udev |
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16:22 | <tsai> | #debian-desktop |
16:23 | <tsai> | oops! |
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16:25 | <Villarroel> | Hi! |
16:27 | <Villarroel> | !kde_trouble |
16:27 | <dpkg> | somebody said kde_trouble was Just upgraded KDE? konqueror won't work kopete won't work ? korganizer has no resources available? Please log out and back in. KDE doesn't like changing its libs underneath. |
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16:30 | <aycko> | how do i kill some listening daemon? |
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16:30 | <aycko> | i got something listening on port 21, but its in state fin_wait2 and i cannot find any corresponding app in ps |
16:34 | <ifvoid> | aycko: try netstat -anp |
16:34 | <ifvoid> | (as root) |
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16:34 | <ifvoid> | anyway, fin_wait is a state the port enters when the listening daemon closes it, iirc |
16:37 | <eldowan> | I mount various iso images(27 currently) to a specific folder depending on my use at the time. I know for a specific predefined mount I can add an entry in fstab with the user(s) option turned on. However, I need to be root|sudo to mount the iso images. What is the best way to go about allowing my specific useraccount uid=1001 to mount any iso to that directory, or any iso period without root|sudo credentials? |
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16:38 | <ubuntu> | wili |
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16:40 | <ifvoid> | eldowan: simply put an extra option "user" in the fstab |
16:41 | <ifvoid> | then also users will be allowed to mount them |
16:42 | <ubuntu> | user |
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16:44 | <BlackFox> | hi |
16:44 | <ifvoid> | hi |
16:45 | <BlackFox> | i have a little question on ubuntu |
16:45 | <BlackFox> | i want my lokal php server is working the problem is this: |
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16:45 | <BlackFox> | i dont get permissions to paste my files in the folder |
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16:46 | <BlackFox> | and when i want to watch my index.php it says that is not allowed to access that folder |
16:46 | <lordram> | hi! |
16:46 | <BlackFox> | how i can change this restrictions? |
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16:47 | <BlackFox> | i tried it with sudo chmod u=rwX www |
16:47 | <BlackFox> | but it wont work |
16:47 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: I'm not sure I understand. I can setup fstab to allow my(any) user account to mount any iso to a specific point? |
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16:47 | <BlackFox> | i dont get access to it |
16:47 | <ifvoid> | eldowan: yes |
16:47 | <lordram> | I have a problem with ati and sid... is this the right channel for ask? |
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16:48 | <aycko> | ifvoid: what does it mean if inetd listens to port 21? |
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16:49 | <aycko> | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1963/inet |
16:49 | <df1amb> | lordram: that depends on your problem I think |
16:49 | <ifvoid> | aycko: inetd is the daemon that listens for connections, and starts daemons if a connection is detected |
16:49 | <chealer_> | BlackFox: this is #debian. #ubuntu is on freenode. |
16:49 | <BlackFox> | oh |
16:49 | <BlackFox> | srry then |
16:49 | <aycko> | ifvoid: so thats ok? because my ftpd tells me that port 21 is already in use |
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16:50 | <lordram> | dflamb, I can't compile the driver, the problem is the paravirt option, so I will try to recompile de kernel without that option |
16:50 | <lordram> | dflamb, but I don't know were the .config is... I don't wanna make all the configuration, I only need change that |
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16:51 | <ifvoid> | aycko: well |
16:51 | <ifvoid> | aycko: usually inetd starts the ftp daemon |
16:52 | <ifvoid> | Across: check out /etc/inetd.conf |
16:52 | <ifvoid> | woops |
16:52 | <ifvoid> | aycko: |
16:52 | <ifvoid> | aycko: you can disable the inetd there |
16:53 | <df1amb> | lordram: look in /boot for config-<your-kernel-version> |
16:54 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: I have the following as a line in my fstab: /home/user/iso/* /home/user/office iso9660 ro,loop,user 0 0 However I get this message when I try to mount a specific image: mount: can't find /home/user/iso/spl.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
16:54 | <aycko> | ifvoid: thx |
16:54 | <lordram> | df1amb, thanks :-) |
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16:54 | <df1amb> | lordram: copy the file to your compile directoy and name it .confg |
16:54 | <ifvoid> | eldowan: well, that's a pretty clear message, isn't it? |
16:54 | <eldowan> | I hate to be a bother ifvoid, but I've looked through the man page, and online, but I can't seem to find anything that will work for multiple iso's. Do you think you could lend a few finders and maybe a thumb? |
16:54 | <df1amb> | np |
16:55 | <ifvoid> | eldowan: make a separate lien for each iso |
16:55 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: sudo mount /home/user/iso/spl.iso office -o loop works correctly |
16:55 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: I was trying to avoid that if at all possible. |
16:55 | <ifvoid> | it's not |
16:56 | <pumpkin0> | i have hit a bug in etch's gcc (looks like http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29329). If i install lennys gcc on etch ... will it blend ? |
16:56 | <ifvoid> | eldowan: you could also set up an automounter |
16:56 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: thats what I was expecting. Thanks anyway though. |
16:56 | <ifvoid> | that's much more flexible |
16:56 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: I'm not sure I follow the logic |
16:57 | <eldowan> | I was looking for automount in a search of the repos, but aptitude returned nothing. Am I missing something? |
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16:58 | <ifvoid> | eldowan: it's called autofs |
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16:58 | <eldowan> | ifvoid: thanks for the pointer |
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17:00 | <chealer_> | pumpkin0: if you install lenny's binary gcc packages on etch, an important part of your system will become lenny. |
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17:01 | <eldowan> | I guess an install with borderline personality disorder wouldn't be the highlight of many people's day? |
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17:06 | <pumpkin0> | chealer_: the other way would be installing an older squashfs-soucre package. Where can i find these ? |
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17:06 | <_3yE_> | hello. does anyone know how i enable hibernation by normal user through hal in sid? |
17:06 | <_3yE_> | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement.Hibernate |
17:06 | <_3yE_> | works as root but does not as user because of permission problems- |
17:06 | <_3yE_> | gna, sid, not sid, probably doesn't matter. |
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17:08 | <sssvi01> | i need help about nvidia driver |
17:09 | <sssvi01> | it says: unable to build kernel module |
17:09 | <Skyrail> | streuner: was it you who helped me setup Debian to install off the HD? |
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17:09 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: did you download it from www.nvidia.com or did you install it via apt-get ? |
17:10 | <sssvi01> | download it from nvidia.com |
17:10 | <streuner> | Skyrail: surely not, i've never install from a HD... |
17:10 | <streuner> | rather stew |
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17:10 | <Ganneff> | !nvidia |
17:10 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
17:11 | <Skyrail> | streuner: ah, nevermind then, I just recognized your name for some reason or another :) |
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17:13 | <sssvi01> | pumkin0: help me |
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17:13 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: help me |
17:13 | <pumpkin0> | !tell sssvi01 about nvidia one-liner |
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17:15 | <sssvi01> | gpkg: <nvidia one-liner>??? |
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17:17 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: dpkg just send you a short text explaining howto install the nvidia driver. Did you get that text ? |
17:17 | <sssvi01> | pumkin0: yes |
17:17 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: did you try it ? |
17:17 | <_3yE_> | how unfriendly |
17:17 | <_3yE_> | pasted one line and got kicked |
17:19 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: but i dont want to use apt-get |
17:20 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: use it or kill your install. It's up to you. |
17:20 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: i upgraded to kernel 2.6.21 |
17:20 | <frank> | then use aptitude instead |
17:20 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: and download latest nvidia driver |
17:21 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: and install kernel haders and kerlel src |
17:22 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: the apt-get/aptitude packages are modified to work on debian. Installing the non-modified packages is not recommanded. They tend to break in funny ways. |
17:23 | <frank> | sssvi01: you can also use module-assisstant if you have a custom kernel |
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17:23 | <lordram> | mmm... it's possible that you can't use 2.6.21 with nvidia drivers |
17:24 | <lordram> | http://www.esdebian.org/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=4&showtopic=89199&show=10&page=2 <--- here you can found an explanation but, it is in spanish |
17:24 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: then sh nvidia-xxxx-.run the after showing progress bar after 100% it says unable to build kernel module |
17:25 | <frank> | lordram: depends on the nvidia version i guess |
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17:26 | <lordram> | frank, that link says that the problem is the "PARAVIRT" kernel option, it should be set to "NO" in order to compile the nvidia o ati driver |
17:26 | <lordram> | sorry, my english is very bad :( |
17:27 | <frank> | i don't speak spanish, sorry |
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17:28 | <Cave`> | are there a guide to compile (the debian way) the nvidia driver - with kernel 2.6.21 |
17:28 | <sssvi01> | sh nvidia-xxxx.run and after showing progress bar after 100% it says unable to build kernel module |
17:29 | <sssvi01> | some body help me |
17:29 | <EricB> | did you install the kernel headers? |
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17:33 | <sssvi01> | yes |
17:33 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: did you do what lordram told you ? |
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17:35 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: sorry but what? |
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17:36 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: did you set "PARAVIRT" to NO ? |
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17:38 | <BluRay> | hi.. when i'm installing debian.. i can choose groups of packages (web server, desktop..), but i can't choose which software from some group.. |
17:39 | <BluRay> | can i install from groups by details or only whole group? |
17:39 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: i dont know howto how to set "PARAVIRT" no |
17:41 | <pumpkin0> | BluRay: you can just install the desktop-packages and add stuff later. |
17:41 | <sssvi01> | i dont know how to set "PARAVIRT" to no |
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17:43 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: grep PARAVIRT in you kernel-source. you will find the setupfile. |
17:43 | <sssvi01> | ok |
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17:47 | <GhostlyDeath> | There was like 10 people in here |
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17:50 | <chronoteeth> | DEBIAN IS COOL. |
17:50 | <GhostlyDeath> | Debian rescued my cat from a tree |
17:51 | <chronoteeth> | Debian took my virginity |
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17:51 | <GhostlyDeath> | lol |
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17:53 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0: my kernel src is in tar.bz2 archive to install nvidia driver is it recommended to unpack it ? |
17:53 | <chronoteeth> | I don't even know what debian is |
17:53 | <chronoteeth> | but it took my virginity |
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17:54 | <sssvi01> | chronoteeth: how? what? why? |
17:54 | <chronoteeth> | I don't know how |
17:54 | <chronoteeth> | I don't know why |
17:54 | <chronoteeth> | Dunno even what |
17:55 | <pumpkin0> | sssvi01: the module only needs the headers. It should not care about the source. It does care about the config. (the current one can be found in /proc/config.gz and as .config somewhere in your /usr/src/-tree.) |
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17:57 | <sssvi01> | pumpkin0:set "PARAVIRT" to no is only for amd64 or x64 hardware |
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18:01 | <ethan> | hello |
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18:02 | <ethan> | anybody around? |
18:02 | <aycko> | yeah |
18:02 | <ethan> | heh i like the "this is not #ubuntu" in the topic |
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18:03 | <ethan> | can somebody tell me what the linux equivlant of Autoexec.bat or windows startup is? |
18:04 | <sssvi01> | how to recursively delete all *.txt or any type of file in a dir tree |
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18:05 | <aycko> | like rm -r *.txt |
18:05 | <aycko> | -.- |
18:05 | <frank> | ethan: you can either make your own init script or use e.g. rc.local |
18:05 | <aycko> | but be careful what your working dir is |
18:05 | <lupine> | ethan: /etc/rc*.d |
18:05 | <lupine> | sort of |
18:06 | <aycko> | ethan: if u want to execute stuff on a daily basis u can use cron |
18:08 | <sssvi01> | it only remove files in current dir |
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18:08 | <sssvi01> | how to recursively delete all *.txt or any type of file in a dir tree |
18:08 | <Hessophanes> | sssvi01: find dir/ -name "*.txt" | xargs rm - use with care. |
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18:09 | <frank> | that is dangerous |
18:09 | <frank> | always use -print0 with such stuff |
18:09 | <frank> | and xargs -0 |
18:10 | <sssvi01> | thanks |
18:16 | <aycko> | what is the worst case if someone owns my ftp account? |
18:16 | <aycko> | just to loose my data? |
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18:26 | <vortek> | hello :) |
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18:28 | <vortek> | I got a simple question.. I'm looking over the debian changes of Accepted kernel-image-2.6.8-amd64 2.6.8-16sarge6 (source i386) |
18:28 | <vortek> | Is that fixes the the kernel Debian made ? |
18:29 | <vortek> | like did debian actualy fix them security holes in the kernel.. or did they just apply the patches for it that were publicly available? |
18:29 | <azeem> | I don't understand your question |
18:29 | <azeem> | updates to the stable Debian kernel usually mean fixes to security holes |
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18:33 | <vortek> | azeem: are these fixes the debian programers made ? |
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18:34 | <vortek> | or are they using public security patches made by others |
18:34 | <azeem> | vortek: usually the latter |
18:34 | <vortek> | the i mean meant / that |
18:34 | <vortek> | ahh ok |
18:34 | <azeem> | though they heavily research the issue and evaluate the patches |
18:34 | <vortek> | darn i was thinking debian was all sweet and stuff and patched 0day flaws |
18:34 | <vortek> | ahh sweet |
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18:40 | <owenh> | Hi, how can I make clamd run with a different nicelevel? There's nothing about it in the docs and google hasn't helped either... |
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18:45 | <alp_> | hi |
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18:59 | <_spOOn_> | anyone here help me with a debian/testing and nvidia issue? |
19:01 | <Ganneff> | !nvidia |
19:01 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
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19:03 | <_spOOn_> | i followed those instructions, and has worked before, but when i got to apt-get install nvidia-glx, it cant find the package. Seems like the package is only in stable and unstable, not testing |
19:03 | <_spOOn_> | any reason for this? |
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19:03 | <_spOOn_> | i have non-free source as well |
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19:05 | <_spOOn_> | also, aptitude seems to be locking up after successful package installation. Doesnt matter what package, just as soon as its finished, it stops responding |
19:05 | <_spOOn_> | stange... |
19:05 | <_spOOn_> | strange... even |
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19:27 | <vortek> | id just of used the one from unstable hehe |
19:28 | <vortek> | well on a desktop machine not a server |
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19:32 | <uter> | hi i have a question about kdeprint- the button add printer/class... is disabled - what could this be ? |
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19:50 | <uter> | hi - i have a problem with kde print -> the button add printer/class is disabled -> the user is in group lpadmin & lp and cupsys & cupsys - client are installed |
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20:01 | <uter> | hi - i have a problem with kde print -> the button add printer/class is disabled -> the user is in group lpadmin & lp and cupsys & cupsys - client are installed |
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20:57 | <lucas_amorim> | hello. How do I use sftp to download a file from a remote server I am logged on? |
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20:58 | <lucas_amorim> | I am at home trying to download a file which is in a server at the university |
20:58 | <lucas_amorim> | as an example |
20:59 | <mikegrb> | sftp <server> |
20:59 | <mikegrb> | or sftp user@server |
20:59 | <mikegrb> | just like you would use with ssh |
20:59 | <lucas_amorim> | then... |
20:59 | <mikegrb> | once connected, it's just like ftp |
20:59 | <lucas_amorim> | ohh |
20:59 | <lucas_amorim> | I will try that |
21:00 | <lucas_amorim> | than, i do not need to login using ssh before? |
21:00 | <lucas_amorim> | then* |
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21:03 | <lucas_amorim> | Ok.. It worked |
21:03 | <lucas_amorim> | thanks! |
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21:14 | <smash> | hi everyone |
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21:15 | <smash> | can enenyone help me to know about basic networking in linux(Debian) |
21:16 | <gar> | ifconfig tell you everything |
21:16 | <gar> | :D |
21:17 | <smash> | gar: I mean proxy server setup and all that sort of things |
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21:35 | <Aleric> | Where can I change the number of workspaces in gnome?? |
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21:45 | <faaldo> | boa noite |
21:45 | <be> | sorry, is this chat portuguese only? |
21:46 | <faaldo> | yes. |
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21:51 | <gerzel> | Hey I'm trying to switch to black box but dunno how to generate menus, I'm using Feisty Ubuntu |
21:51 | <faaldo> | alguèm tc em portugues |
21:55 | <be> | very poor portugues |
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21:57 | <be> | has anyone some idea what's going on with iceweasel locales in lenny's reps? |
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22:10 | <be> | i'm having some problem with iceweasel locales in lenny |
22:10 | <be> | they seem to be one version ahead of the programm |
22:10 | <unix> | connect |
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22:10 | <be> | does anyone have some idea? |
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22:14 | <be> | no-one... idea about iceweasel locales. is that a bug? I haven't find it neither on google or debian bug track |
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22:39 | <DreDawgg> | hello |
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22:42 | <djuLoq> | hallo |
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22:44 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | hullo |
22:46 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | big party in here, eh? |
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22:47 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | another one bites the dust |
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23:05 | <miike-> | hey. I have a question. Is there a possible mirror to the security.debian.org...? |
23:05 | <miike-> | I am randomly getting Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages |
23:05 | <miike-> | 404 Not Found |
23:05 | <miike-> | when using aptitude. |
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23:17 | <sysop> | hi |
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23:18 | <sysop> | what's up? kop my friend |
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23:21 | <Darksmurf> | looking for iptables help. Can someone look at http://pastebin.com/d169cdf3f and see if the iptables rules do what the comments say? |
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23:22 | <Darksmurf> | I should mention that eth3 = internal nic, eth4 = external w/ public IP |
23:23 | <Darksmurf> | anyone have any idea why Debian Etch named the two network cards in my machine eth3 and eth4? I had different cards in before and each time I change them it doesn't reuse the old dev name. |
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23:24 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, what crazy! |
23:25 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, I'm not a guru, even more not an expert... I mean... I don't know very much. |
23:25 | <sysop> | but... |
23:26 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | Darksmurf, thats pretty weird... so you dont have eth1? |
23:27 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | #prevent NAT (inet <-> inet) ? |
23:27 | <sysop> | CutMeOwnThroat, yes I was to say same |
23:27 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, as say CutMeOwnThroat... this rule is... |
23:27 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | weird? |
23:27 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, how can I said... |
23:27 | <sysop> | yes |
23:27 | <sysop> | WEIRD |
23:28 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | :) |
23:28 | <sysop> | Thank you CutMeOwnThroat |
23:28 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | and dunno what it's doing... |
23:28 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | but not what the comment sais, i guess |
23:28 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | you're trying to forward from eth4 to eth4 |
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23:29 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | well, havent used iptables for a long time |
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23:32 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, only comment that said CutMeOwnThroat... not correspond to the rule |
23:34 | <sysop> | and... |
23:34 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, this #Allow Local SSH |
23:34 | <Darksmurf> | doh |
23:34 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, allow all! not only local |
23:34 | <sysop> | iptables -A INPUT -i eth3 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
23:34 | <Darksmurf> | iptables -A FORWARD -i eth4 -o eth4 should be "iptables -A FORWARD -i eth4 -o eth4 -j reject" |
23:35 | <Darksmurf> | allow local = allow connections to local SSH server..i.e. not forwarded and not blocked |
23:35 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | but... what type of package would be forwarded from one cart to the same card anyways? |
23:35 | <sysop> | CutMeOwnThroat, yes I think the same thing |
23:35 | <Darksmurf> | to be honest I have no idea. I saw that rule in a howto and I guessed that is what it was doing |
23:35 | <sysop> | I don't know exactly... but at first look not sound logic |
23:35 | <node_3667> | any xblast/dynablaster/bomberman who wants to join for a xblast game here ? |
23:36 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: this is rare |
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23:39 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667: ? |
23:39 | <node_3667> | but... what type of package would be forwarded from one cart to the same card anyways? -> none |
23:39 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | ah |
23:39 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, tried to link that to your bomberman comment :) |
23:39 | <node_3667> | ;-) |
23:40 | <node_3667> | players are rare too |
23:40 | <Darksmurf> | maybe some trying to hide their source IP...could you forward from your machine through an 'open' NAT server over the internet? |
23:40 | <node_3667> | want a game ? |
23:40 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, he asked about this http://pastebin.com/d169cdf3f |
23:40 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | and while I dont completely follow all the other rules, the one trying to forbid forwarding from eth4 to eth4 seems weird |
23:41 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, yes maybe... but you need to study networks, tcp/ip, firewalls, security |
23:41 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, xpilot only here :) |
23:41 | <node_3667> | xpilot then |
23:42 | <node_3667> | what is the question regarding this strange set of iptables rules ? |
23:42 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | if they do what the strange comments say they do |
23:42 | <node_3667> | no. |
23:42 | <sysop> | hehehehehe |
23:42 | <node_3667> | should they do what the comment says ? |
23:42 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: xpilot ng ? |
23:42 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | dunno |
23:43 | <node_3667> | or xpilot |
23:43 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | sure |
23:43 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | ng |
23:43 | <node_3667> | apt-geting... |
23:43 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, you never played that? |
23:43 | <Darksmurf> | I would like them to do what the comments say..but I'd really like to understand why they don't |
23:43 | <node_3667> | yes i played that |
23:43 | <node_3667> | a long time ago |
23:43 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | what nick? |
23:44 | <node_3667> | rx maybe. |
23:44 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | hm |
23:44 | <node_3667> | or node3667. |
23:44 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | how long ago? |
23:44 | <node_3667> | 8 years ago |
23:44 | <node_3667> | 10-8. |
23:44 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | hm |
23:44 | <node_3667> | wasn't addicted. |
23:44 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | if it's 10, I guess I didnt play back then |
23:44 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | 8... yes |
23:45 | <Darksmurf> | and then I would like to prevent other incomming connections that are not allowed ..but I think I could change the policy for the default table to DENY right? then if its not allowed it gets dropped |
23:45 | <node_3667> | telnet meta.xpilot.org 4401 | awk -F: '{print $4 " " $2}' | sort ? |
23:45 | <node_3667> | Darksmurf: no, ACCEPT, reject or drop. default is accep |
23:45 | <sysop> | Darksmurf, yes |
23:45 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | Darksmurf, how should there be incoming connections for a NAT? |
23:45 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | they could only go to the machine itself... |
23:46 | <node_3667> | iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
23:46 | <node_3667> | iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
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23:46 | <node_3667> | iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
23:46 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, heh.... telnet meta.xpilot.org 4401 | awk -F: '{print $4 " " $2}' | sort :) |
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23:46 | <node_3667> | and then the opther rules |
23:47 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, we normally just type "xpilot" (or xpilot-ng-client) :) |
23:47 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: what server ? |
23:47 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | dunno, what do you want? |
23:47 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | ehhe |
23:47 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | my robot-bloods is the 1st in the list :) |
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23:48 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | "chaos" is in germany |
23:48 | <Darksmurf> | ok, thanks guys. I'm going to bed |
23:48 | <node_3667> | huh |
23:48 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | hm, you're from .ca it seems |
23:48 | <node_3667> | ya |
23:48 | <sysop> | good night Darksmurf |
23:48 | <node_3667> | nit' |
23:48 | <node_3667> | Darksmurf: have |
23:48 | <node_3667> | a look at labs.8d.com/myfw |
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23:49 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: i need the manual again ;-) |
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23:49 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, ? |
23:49 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | what manual? |
23:49 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | what for? |
23:49 | <node_3667> | for xpilot |
23:49 | <node_3667> | keybinding |
23:49 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, nope |
23:49 | <node_3667> | how do i know the keys then ? |
23:50 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | node_3667, left-click with the mouse -> mouse steering |
23:50 | <node_3667> | ack |
23:52 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | you're "xavier"? |
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23:55 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, sorry |
23:55 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: and you ? |
23:56 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | the other guy in your team |
23:56 | <node_3667> | ha ha cool |
23:56 | <node_3667> | what name ? |
23:56 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | touchme |
23:56 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | because I'm on the laptop |
23:56 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | and that only had a touchpad |
23:56 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | :) |
23:56 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | duh, I am sorry... I am pretty tired |
23:57 | <node_3667> | np |
23:57 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | but I programmed those sucky bots... |
23:57 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | perhaps you can have some fun with them :) |
23:57 | <node_3667> | the bot are pretty tough for newbies |
23:57 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | guess so |
23:57 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | they have several weaknesses, though |
23:58 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | well... more weaknesses than skills, actually |
23:58 | <node_3667> | what happening now... |
23:58 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | they don't attack if you "hide" behind a wall |
23:58 | <node_3667> | i guess i'm pausde. |
23:58 | <node_3667> | ok |
23:58 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | yeah |
23:58 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | type /team 4 to re-join |
23:58 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | and they dodge bullets pretty well |
23:58 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | but they only dodge a single one in every frame... |
23:59 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | so multiple bullets and they try to evade a different one every frame.. until they are hit :) |
23:59 | <node_3667> | CutMeOwnThroat: so many bots |
23:59 | <node_3667> | for 2 ppl |
23:59 | <CutMeOwnThroat> | only 4 :) |
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