| --- | Log | opened Thu Jul 26 00:00:01 2007 |
| --- | Day | changed Thu Jul 26 2007 |
| 00:00 | |-| | Archimed [~Archo@bas5-toronto63-1096707125.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian |
| 00:00 | <Archimed> | ok back.... now after doign alsaconf |
| 00:00 | <Archimed> | and doing a restart.... my mixer doesnt even come near the watch... |
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| 00:01 | <Archimed> | its like, it doesnt start as a startup anymore |
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| 00:06 | <dli> | !tell Archimed about ask |
| 00:07 | <Archimed> | ok, basically, i use Debian 4.0 Etch, and SIS7012 soundcard - onboard... i just asked the question and had to restart |
| 00:07 | <Archimed> | i hear no sound |
| 00:07 | <Archimed> | alsa has recognized eerything |
| 00:07 | <Archimed> | but still doesnt work |
| 00:08 | <Archimed> | when running amixer i get allot of info that is unclear to me |
| 00:08 | <Archimed> | i used otehr mxier with GNOME and i have unmuted and still hear no sound |
| 00:09 | <Archimed> | and after restaring it doesnt even startup when logging in.. :(...... |
| 00:09 | <dli> | !tell Archimed about doesn't work |
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| 00:10 | <Archimed> | dli, ithere is no soind coming out of my headphone, my speakers.... and yes i have plugged into right hole |
| 00:12 | <dli> | Archimed, try " aplay /dev/urandom " |
| 00:13 | <Archimed> | nothing comes out |
| 00:13 | <dli> | Archimed, maybe, your speaker broken |
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| 00:14 | <Archimed> | i used headphones too |
| 00:15 | <Archimed> | i used this soundcard with windows and it worked |
| 00:15 | <dli> | Archimed, I don't know about windows |
| 00:15 | <Archimed> | for some odd reasons, linux doesnt do anything on this card |
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| 00:15 | <Archimed> | i have used, Testing - Lenny. and Stable |
| 00:15 | <dli> | Archimed, is snd-intel8x0 your driver? in lsmod |
| 00:15 | <Archimed> | and no go |
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| 00:16 | <gato> | ola tudo bem?? |
| 00:16 | <Archimed> | snd_intel8x0 30332 0 |
| 00:16 | <Archimed> | snd_ac97_codec 83104 1 snd_intel8x0 also this one |
| 00:16 | <dli> | Archimed, cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 00:17 | <gato> | alguma gata afim de tc |
| 00:17 | <Archimed> | 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 |
| 00:17 | <Archimed> | SiS SI7012 with ALC200,200P at 0xdc00, irq 10 |
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| 00:18 | <dli> | Archimed, make sure you don't have arts/esd running |
| 00:18 | <Archimed> | how do i do that? |
| 00:18 | <dli> | Archimed, /etc/init.d/artsd stop |
| 00:18 | <dli> | Archimed, /etc/init.d/esound stop |
| 00:19 | <Archimed> | neither of them exist |
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| 00:19 | <Archimed> | however when i run, esd it doesnt give me anything, it just runs and blank |
| 00:19 | <tupa> | is there some way to do SMP using two different boxes or does that make no sense? |
| 00:20 | <dli> | tupa, read about mpich |
| 00:20 | <Archimed> | dli, can it be like irq conflict? cause i have external USB 2 card , which is not recognized by debian either |
| 00:20 | <dli> | Archimed, then, " alsamixer -c 0 " |
| 00:21 | <Archimed> | ok, i am in the mixer |
| 00:21 | <Archimed> | pc speaker is 100% |
| 00:21 | <dli> | Archimed, you should check dmesg first |
| 00:22 | <Archimed> | dli, how? |
| 00:22 | <dli> | Archimed, you need to unmute and increase all |
| 00:22 | <dli> | Archimed, dmesg|less |
| 00:22 | <dli> | Archimed, search for ALSA |
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| 00:23 | <tupa> | dli thank you :P |
| 00:24 | <dli> | tupa, also, read about openMP, openMosix, and SSI |
| 00:24 | <Archimed> | http://paste.debian.net/33436 |
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| 00:26 | [~] | linux-fox happy |
| 00:26 | <sol0_> | :hi/ |
| 00:26 | <linux-fox> | hello , everyone ,i am going to build a irc server in the debian etch , what software should i choose ? |
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| 00:28 | <tupa> | dli, definitely I'm reading about them |
| 00:28 | <Archimed> | dli, cant find anything |
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| 00:29 | <dli> | Archimed, find harder |
| 00:30 | <Archimed> | there is nothing conatining alsa |
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| 00:31 | <dli> | Archimed, read line by line, then, if you can not read, there's little help you may expect |
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| 00:31 | <jm_> | linux-fox: use packaged ircd-s instead |
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| 00:33 | <Archimed> | dli, ACPI: RSDT (v001 AMIINT SiS645XX 0x00000010 MSFT 0x0100000b) @ 0x1fff0000, this is the onlyyhing i can think that concerns the sound, since this is the main chipset |
| 00:33 | <toogreen> | hi guys, quick question... can i upgrade from php4 to php5 and my apps like moodle, squirrelmail will still work? |
| 00:34 | <toogreen> | i mean are they still gonna work? |
| 00:34 | <weasel> | hahahaha |
| 00:34 | <linux-fox> | jm_, ircd-s ? is it the best irc server ? |
| 00:35 | <linux-fox> | jm_, what about irc-hybird? |
| 00:35 | <weasel> | there are so many different irc daemons |
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| 00:35 | <weasel> | the only thing they have in common is that they all suck |
| 00:35 | <weasel> | just like all software. |
| 00:35 | <Archimed> | dli, when i did just dmesg this i found |
| 00:35 | <Archimed> | intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 55072 usecs |
| 00:35 | <Archimed> | intel8x0: clocking to 48000 |
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| 00:39 | <Archimed> | dli, is tehre hope for this or no? |
| 00:40 | <jm_> | linux-fox: ircd-s as in plural, pick one, install it |
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| 00:42 | <linux-fox_> | jm_:thank you |
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| 00:42 | <linux-fox_> | jm_:which irc server do you use? |
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| 00:44 | <oddtod> | hey guys would there be any issues if i were to install debian and set it up as a server(in VMware) then move it to a real machine? |
| 00:44 | <weasel> | probably not |
| 00:45 | <oddtod> | thanks weasel |
| 00:47 | <jm_> | linux-fox_: we are using ircd-hybrid at work (we used dancer previously) |
| 00:48 | <linux-fox_> | jm_: ok , i will use ircd-hybird now , thank you , what is your msn account ? or other IM ? |
| 00:48 | <jm_> | linux-fox_: I don't have any IM accounts |
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| 00:49 | <linux-fox_> | jm_: ^_^ , |
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| 00:55 | <sol0_> | hi qgqin |
| 00:55 | <sol0_> | pfffffffffff |
| 00:55 | <sol0_> | hi again |
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| 01:20 | <seanius> | toogreen: probably... if the app is reported to work with php5 anyway. just make sure you get all the right php5-foo installed too |
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| 01:36 | <sol0_kmf_58> | <<< |
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| 01:48 | <niru> | How can i make a usb boot device for grub corruption |
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| 01:48 | <niru> | My grub corrupts most of the time |
| 01:49 | <niru> | I want to make a usb boot device bt it should use very less space |
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| 01:49 | <niru> | and rest should to free to use for other purpose |
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| 01:50 | <sol0_kmf_58> | hi/ can u help mem i a; looking for hakin9 delfault lognin |
| 01:50 | <sol0_kmf_58> | login |
| 01:51 | <jm_> | niru: GRUB needs about 120k of space on filesystem |
| 01:52 | <niru> | jm_, ok I have a usb of 4 GB |
| 01:52 | <niru> | how can i use only 120 k of the space and rest to keep free to use |
| 01:52 | <niru> | jm_, any document to make such an usb |
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| 01:55 | <sol0_kmf_58> | hi/ can u help me i am looking for hakin9 delfault lognin |
| 01:55 | <sol0_kmf_58> | login |
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| 02:02 | <jm_> | niru: uhm use grub-install script |
| 02:02 | <niru> | jm_, oh |
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| 02:18 | <lanceallott> | any one here know what power of 2 error means when trying to run beryl |
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| 02:27 | <sol0_kmf_58> | hummmm<<< i hope it work4s on linksys |
| 02:27 | <sol0_kmf_58> | buy |
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| 02:31 | <dado2007> | good morning! |
| 02:32 | <matthias> | good morning |
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| 02:54 | <locsmif> | Where would i discuss corrections for debian-policy? |
| 02:54 | <simon444> | mail list |
| 02:54 | <locsmif> | I have some minor spelling errors and weird sentences, and i decided to note them down while reading debian-policy |
| 02:54 | <locsmif> | simon444, hmm, you're right, thx |
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| 02:55 | [~] | locsmif is tired and unsharp atm |
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| 02:55 | <gmax> | hello folks |
| 02:55 | <simon444> | hi |
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| 02:56 | <gmax> | im doing an upgrade from 2.6.12 to 2.6.21 on the way to upgrading to etch |
| 02:57 | <gmax> | the upgrade process has gone well except that when i boot the new kernel it fails to mount the root file system and panics |
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| 02:57 | <gmax> | one key difference in the boot info is that on the old kernel it showed loading the scsi driver |
| 02:57 | <gmax> | on the new kernel it does not show this |
| 02:58 | <gmax> | can anyone help me with this please :) |
| 02:59 | <streuner> | etch doesnt have 2.6.21 |
| 02:59 | <streuner> | what does "cat /proc/version" say? |
| 03:00 | <simon444> | lol |
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| 03:00 | <gmax> | i know etch doesnt have 2.6.21. what im doing is updating sarge to the highest level before upgrading to etch |
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| 03:01 | <streuner> | read "release notes" about and use a working kernel from sarge |
| 03:01 | <gmax> | Linux version 2.6.12 (root@development) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Debian 4.0.3-1)) #0 Mon May 15 14:33:44 CEST 2006 |
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| 03:01 | <gmax> | ok |
| 03:01 | <gmax> | which release notes should i read ? |
| 03:02 | <gmax> | i have been following the upgrade process |
| 03:02 | <streuner> | !release notes |
| 03:02 | <dpkg> | from memory, release notes is http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/releasenotes |
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| 03:02 | <gmax> | ok but i'm not at etch yet |
| 03:02 | <gmax> | still on sarge |
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| 03:02 | <streuner> | sure, those mention sarge->etch |
| 03:02 | <gmax> | mmm thats what i've been using |
| 03:02 | <gmax> | now im stuck |
| 03:03 | <gmax> | im sure that it is because the scsi driver is not loading |
| 03:03 | <gmax> | but i dont know how to make it load |
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| 03:03 | <sol0_> | nor;ally it reconize it |
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| 03:04 | <sol0_> | gmax, |
| 03:04 | <sol0_> | normally it reconize it |
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| 03:04 | <gmax> | mmm |
| 03:04 | <gmax> | if i boot the old kernel it works ok |
| 03:04 | <streuner> | gmax: what does "lspci -v | grep -i scsi" say? - Is the device supported at all (2.6.18)? |
| 03:04 | <gmax> | i dont know much about kernel |
| 03:04 | <sol0_> | dont knoz |
| 03:04 | <streuner> | ok, just use the "old" kernel then |
| 03:04 | <gmax> | ok |
| 03:04 | <gmax> | 1 moment |
| 03:05 | <gmax> | 00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultiMaster 10] (rev 01) |
| 03:05 | <gmax> | (result of lspci) |
| 03:06 | <jm_> | make sure new kernel loads the driver for it, or simply use old kernel and upgrade with it |
| 03:06 | <gmax> | how do i make the new kernel load the driver ? |
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| 03:07 | <streuner> | what module did it use before? |
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| 03:07 | <gmax> | i dont know how to answer that question |
| 03:07 | <gmax> | modprobe ? |
| 03:08 | <streuner> | just run "lsmod" and take a look there |
| 03:08 | <streuner> | (with the working kernel) |
| 03:08 | <gmax> | lsmod shows nothing |
| 03:08 | <streuner> | nothing? |
| 03:08 | <gmax> | nada |
| 03:08 | <streuner> | oh, everything is compilied into the kernel itselfs? - clever |
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| 03:08 | <streuner> | ok |
| 03:08 | <streuner> | !hcl |
| 03:08 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, or http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ |
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| 03:09 | <streuner> | try this one then |
| 03:09 | <streuner> | http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 03:09 | <gmax> | thanks |
| 03:10 | <gmax> | thats clever |
| 03:10 | <streuner> | due to the fact that official kernels work via initrd, make sure initrd-package is installed... |
| 03:10 | <gmax> | i think it is. i told it to |
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| 03:12 | <gmax> | mmmm |
| 03:12 | <gmax> | i have initrd-tools installed |
| 03:12 | <gmax> | but |
| 03:12 | <gmax> | apt-cache show initrd-package says E no packages found |
| 03:13 | <streuner> | initramfs-tools |
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| 03:13 | <streuner> | if you want udev, yaird doesnt support udev... |
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| 03:15 | <bcochofel> | Hi, I know about ssh keys for password-less connections but I want to know if there's some kind of env var to keep the password for a connection without keys? |
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| 03:15 | <gmax> | i did a aptitude install initramfs-tools and it said "nothing to do" |
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| 03:16 | <locsmif> | bcochofel, you are looking for ssh-agent |
| 03:16 | <locsmif> | afaik |
| 03:16 | <streuner> | well, bootloader needs to know where to find initrd-img... |
| 03:16 | <streuner> | in lilo at least, if you using grub just read the docs about |
| 03:16 | <locsmif> | bcochofel, man ssh-agent |
| 03:16 | <jm_> | bcochofel: you can also enable it and it will start together with X server for your convenience |
| 03:16 | <gmax> | using lilo |
| 03:17 | <streuner> | ok, tell that in lilo.conf |
| 03:17 | <streuner> | always run "lilo -v" not only lilo... |
| 03:17 | <gmax> | aha |
| 03:17 | <gmax> | it is not mentioned in lilo |
| 03:17 | <gmax> | i'll check that out |
| 03:17 | <streuner> | good luck |
| 03:18 | <gmax> | thanks |
| 03:18 | <bcochofel> | Can ssh-agent keep track of passwords even with no keys?! |
| 03:18 | <formorer> | no |
| 03:18 | <bcochofel> | locsmif, jm_ : I need something without working with keys |
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| 03:20 | <jm_> | bcochofel: good luck :) |
| 03:20 | <jm_> | I use expect like solution(s) for that |
| 03:21 | <bcochofel> | jm_: I was also thinking about that. But if there's another solution so much the great |
| 03:21 | <locsmif> | doesn't that require you to store the password in a manner so that it can be reproduced |
| 03:23 | <formorer> | bcochofel: sshpass - Non-interactive ssh password authentication |
| 03:23 | <jm_> | locsmif: sadly yes |
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| 03:24 | <bcochofel> | jm_, locsmif : I'm writing a script that can handle several ssh connections so I do not have to keep track of every pass. So I need to store them in a place already. |
| 03:24 | <bcochofel> | I'm only trying to save time |
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| 03:24 | <monra> | hello |
| 03:25 | <bcochofel> | formorer: have to check that. thx |
| 03:27 | <monra> | in my pc i got 3 different OS, in the past i was able to mount windows files from linux but don't remember how to do this anymore |
| 03:27 | <monra> | any ideas? |
| 03:27 | <locsmif> | it seems like ssh is the wrong daemon for the job.. |
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| 03:28 | <locsmif> | monra, mount -t ntfs <device> <mountpoint> |
| 03:28 | <jm_> | monra: man mount |
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| 03:28 | <locsmif> | monra, beware with ntfs and writing |
| 03:28 | <locsmif> | if it's FAT, use vfat instead of ntfs after -t |
| 03:30 | <jm_> | you can also omit -t altogether |
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| 03:31 | <bcochofel> | jm_, locsmif : one more question. sshpass appears in the ps command (and so does the pass). Maybe it's better the expect way, right? |
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| 03:31 | <bcochofel> | formorer: do you use sshpass? does the -e option appear in the ps output? |
| 03:32 | <bcochofel> | monra: you can always try konqueror smb://servername/sharename |
| 03:32 | <monra> | I tried opening console from GNOME but with no sucess!!! din't open , i went ctr+alt+f1 logged in but couldn't do anything i returned then in GNOME and couldn't move mouse so i restarted! |
| 03:32 | <locsmif> | bcochofel, perhaps clusterssh is something for you? |
| 03:32 | <locsmif> | (just noticed it in apt-cache, see apt-cache show clusterssh) |
| 03:33 | <locsmif> | bcochofel, that's a disadvantage, yeah |
| 03:33 | <formorer> | bcochofel: no, I just was its sponsor |
| 03:33 | <formorer> | test it |
| 03:34 | <bcochofel> | locsmif: gonna check that |
| 03:34 | <monra> | now after restart the console works fine with gnome but if i close it i won't be able to open it again! |
| 03:37 | <gmax> | are you there streuner |
| 03:37 | <streuner> | yes |
| 03:37 | <gmax> | that worked |
| 03:37 | <gmax> | thanks very much |
| 03:37 | <streuner> | np |
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| 04:25 | <mixter> | hi! i'm having troubles installing etch from a netinst cd. all goes well until the installation of the extra-packages retrieved from internet. the installer fetches all the packages, but then hangs. i've tried to boot with "noapic nolapic" and from time to time (when testing yesterday) that worked, but now the installer freezes even with there params. :-/ |
| 04:25 | <mixter> | are there any known issues for etch with ibm servers? this is the second one giving me a headache... |
| 04:27 | <jm_> | try pci=nommc |
| 04:27 | <mixter> | jm_: in combination with noapic nolapic or by it self? |
| 04:28 | <mixter> | jm_: should it be pci=nommconf? or could it be shortened? |
| 04:29 | <jm_> | mixter: I would try with all three, I think either nommc or nommconf will work, but nommconf is in the docs |
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| 04:31 | <mixter> | jm_: ok, i'll try and get back if it doesn't work :-) |
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| 04:40 | <Metalqga> | do you know what can cause my debian to lose it's internet connection? (cable internet) |
| 04:41 | <Metalqga> | it happens when using dowloading torrents |
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| 04:41 | <dli> | !tell Metalqga about ask |
| 04:42 | <Metalqga> | i think I've provided enough information |
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| 04:43 | <mixter> | jm_: it worked with just pci=nommc, i'll try it a few more times. i don't trust the system right now since it worked from time to time even without pci=nommc |
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| 04:55 | <bach> | hi all |
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| 05:15 | <franzorz> | heerrrrooo |
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| 05:16 | <deconvolution> | hello, I found AUCTeX (11.83-6) package failed to be installed with emacs 22 with message: install/auctex: Ignoring emacsen flavor: "emacs22". Is there any solution to this? |
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| 05:19 | <formorer> | deconvolution: waiting |
| 05:19 | <deconvolution> | ok |
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| 05:21 | <mixter> | jm_: no, it wont work. i've tried both with just nommc and "noapic nolapic pci=nommc" but no solution seems to be stable. it works some times, but most often not. :-( any other cmd options? |
| 05:21 | <xiao> | does "ftp.debian.org" stop update for some days? |
| 05:21 | <Pepper> | Is there a wiki page/irc channel for people using laptop and debian (with powertop)? |
| 05:21 | <Pepper> | A page where all info about saving power in debian is collected? |
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| 05:24 | <jm_> | mixter: what happens when it stops working? |
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| 05:26 | <mixter> | jm_: it's just after downloading the packages from a network mirror. (the base system installs fine) the installer stops right before installing them, but the system isn't hung, i could go to another console |
| 05:27 | <jm_> | mixter: so networking stops working or what? |
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| 05:29 | <mixter> | jm_: no, the network is ok, i could connect to the internet if i'm switching to another console. the installer just don't install the dpkgs it has downloaded |
| 05:29 | <jm_> | mixter: does it hang at 5%? |
| 05:30 | <mixter> | jm_: i think it's 18%, but i guess that is dependent on what o've chosen to install, right? i just install the base system and deselects the desktop environment |
| 05:30 | <jm_> | !5% hang |
| 05:30 | <mixter> | jm_: yes, 18%, the installer says "retrieving file 81 of 81" |
| 05:31 | <jm_> | !5% error |
| 05:31 | <dpkg> | i guess 5% error is d-i stopping at 5%? boot the installer with `linux debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true' or drop to a shell, chroot /target, kill the existing aptitude process and add the latest key, then run aptitude and install what you like, Since etch has been released, you should be downloading a released version of the installer from debian.org which would not have this problem |
| 05:31 | <jm_> | mixter: is it similar as the above? |
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| 05:32 | <jm_> | mixter: shouldn't happen if you don't use some old d-i discs |
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| 05:33 | <mixter> | jm_: it a netinst disc with etch, no RC |
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| 05:33 | <jm_> | mixter: then that's likely not the problem |
| 05:34 | <jm_> | mixter: well check all consoles for messages |
| 05:34 | <jel> | anyone know what's up with the kolab packages in sid? According to p.d.o, they're there. According to apt, they're not. |
| 05:34 | <mixter> | jm_: sometimes, when testing different boot options, d-i continues and installes the system, so the keys should be ok |
| 05:35 | <jm_> | jel: p.d.o is sometimes out of date |
| 05:35 | <jel> | jm_: ah, ok. So they've been dropped? |
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| 05:36 | <mixter> | jm_: no errors on any console :-( on the logging console (vt-4) the last line is from in-target and about fetching package 73, whois... |
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| 05:36 | <jm_> | jel: hmm no idea, packages.qa says it's there |
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| 05:39 | <mixter> | jm_: do you have any other ideas? i've got simlar problems on another server, both from ibm, but they are different models |
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| 05:40 | <jel> | jm_: OK, thanks anyway :) |
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| 05:40 | <jm_> | jel: actually reading mailing list arhives there's nothing to indicate they have been removed |
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| 05:41 | <jm_> | mixter: no, you have to find out what is going on when this happens |
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| 05:42 | <mixter> | jm_: how could i do that? could i make aptitude run i verbose mode or print to a logfile? |
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| 05:43 | <jm_> | mixter: well I would start by checking dmesg output, then ps to see which processes are running, ideally if there was strace I'd use that too to see what they're doing |
| 05:43 | <C> | I have a 'problem' with a dedicated server i connect to over SSH in terminal, the display width i see in terminal is really short (no matter how wide i make the terminal window), is there a way to expand this, i assume its a setting from the server? |
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| 05:44 | <simon444> | yes I have a job proposal! A space agency wants me to work on a project to provide some sun light during the night. |
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| 05:47 | <jm_> | C: what does stty say for your terminal? |
| 05:47 | <mixter> | jm_: ok, i'll see if i could se anything out of the ordinary.. thank you for all the help! |
| 05:47 | <C> | speed 9600 baud; line = 0; |
| 05:47 | <C> | -brkint ixoff -imaxbel |
| 05:47 | <C> | -iexten -echoctl |
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| 05:47 | <gmax> | hi folks |
| 05:47 | <gmax> | this may seem like a silly question |
| 05:47 | <gmax> | but |
| 05:47 | <jm_> | no pasting here, use a pastebin site, and you need to run stty -a |
| 05:47 | <gmax> | how do i know if i am running sarge or etch |
| 05:47 | <jm_> | !debian version |
| 05:47 | <dpkg> | To determine which version of debian you are running, run $ cat /etc/debian_version; If this outputs "testing/unstable", ask me about "testing/unstable". |
| 05:48 | <gmax> | it says lenny/sid |
| 05:48 | <streuner> | What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 05:49 | <C> | jm_: http://pastebin.com/m30352712 |
| 05:49 | <gmax> | ii libc6 2.6-2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 05:49 | <jm_> | so you are using neither |
| 05:49 | <gmax> | mmm |
| 05:50 | <gmax> | kewl |
| 05:50 | <gmax> | i think |
| 05:50 | <gmax> | :) |
| 05:50 | <streuner> | !info libc6 testing |
| 05:50 | <dpkg> | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.6-2 (lenny), Packaged size: 4309 kB, Installed size: 10416 kB |
| 05:50 | <streuner> | !info libc6 |
| 05:51 | <streuner> | !info libc6 sid |
| 05:51 | <dpkg> | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.6-3 (sid), Packaged size: 4297 kB, Installed size: 10436 kB |
| 05:51 | <gmax> | isnt lenny the newest version (newer than etch) ? |
| 05:51 | <streuner> | gmax: show us your sources.list in paster bot, please. |
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| 05:51 | <gmax> | ok |
| 05:51 | <gmax> | ahhh can you give me paster bot url pls |
| 05:51 | <streuner> | gmax: /topic |
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| 05:52 | <streuner> | !flood |
| 05:52 | <dpkg> | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 05:52 | <jm_> | C: well it says 0 for both, no wonder it's hosed |
| 05:53 | <gmax> | http://paste.debian.net/33450 |
| 05:53 | <C> | right, so how do i make it wider? |
| 05:53 | <jm_> | did you try running resize? |
| 05:53 | <gmax> | the commented lines are what i was using before the update |
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| 05:55 | <streuner> | gmax: /msg dpkg secure testing |
| 05:55 | <gmax> | huh ? |
| 05:56 | <streuner> | well, security line is missing in your sources.list |
| 05:56 | <gmax> | mmmm |
| 05:56 | <gmax> | is that bad ? |
| 05:57 | <streuner> | could be, it doesnt hurd to have one |
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| 05:59 | |-| | mode/#debian [+l 302] by debhelper |
| 06:00 | <gmax> | so it seems like im running lenny |
| 06:02 | <streuner> | yes, _its_ lenny/testing |
| 06:02 | <gmax> | is that safe ? |
| 06:02 | <gmax> | my understanding is that lenny is the newest version |
| 06:02 | <gmax> | is it stable ? |
| 06:03 | <_spOOn_> | no, lenny is new testing |
| 06:03 | <twb> | "stable" is an alias for the latest release, currently Etch. |
| 06:03 | <formorer> | and currently very "flaky" |
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| 06:03 | <gmax> | mmm |
| 06:03 | <gmax> | bugger |
| 06:03 | <twb> | However in terms of robustness the testing release (currently Lenny) is usually quite adequate for a desktop; I wouldn't put it on a server. |
| 06:03 | <gmax> | i only meant to upgrade to etch |
| 06:04 | <gmax> | i have a server |
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| 06:04 | <gmax> | i guess i should restore and start again |
| 06:04 | <jm_> | :) |
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| 06:04 | <twb> | That depends on how much time you've invested in the current install. |
| 06:04 | <gmax> | just a few hours |
| 06:04 | <gmax> | its a test system |
| 06:04 | <gmax> | prior to upgrading the production system |
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| 06:05 | <gmax> | so i can throw it away :( |
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| 06:05 | <_spOOn_> | gmax, should you not be trying to match you production server then? |
| 06:05 | <twb> | OK, then definitely just blow it way |
| 06:05 | <twb> | *away |
| 06:05 | <_spOOn_> | if you are wanting a true testing environment |
| 06:05 | <_spOOn_> | ? |
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| 06:06 | <gmax> | spoon the reason im doing this is to establish the procedure before upgrading the production system to etch |
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| 06:06 | <twb> | gmax: be sure to read the Etch release notes |
| 06:06 | <gmax> | thanks for the help guys |
| 06:06 | <gmax> | yup |
| 06:06 | <gmax> | did that |
| 06:07 | <gmax> | i think my sources.list took me to lenny |
| 06:07 | <gmax> | i think i need to specify sarge and etch in it to keep to the right versions |
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| 06:13 | <linux-fox> | i am going build a forum about debian , whichi forum should i choose? |
| 06:13 | <simon444> | smtp |
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| 06:14 | <linux-fox> | what about phpbb ? |
| 06:14 | <simon444> | no |
| 06:14 | <simon444> | smtp |
| 06:14 | <twb> | linux-fox: why? |
| 06:14 | <simon444> | stupid mail transfer protocol |
| 06:15 | <linux-fox> | twb : ? |
| 06:15 | <simon444> | twb, ad money obviously |
| 06:15 | <linux-fox> | twb: i am going to choose phpb |
| 06:15 | <twb> | linux-fox: what do you expect to achieve with *another* forum? |
| 06:15 | <twb> | forums.debian.net |
| 06:16 | <linux-fox> | twb : thank you , i will use phpbb as my forum |
| 06:16 | <twb> | linux-fox: you did not answer my question. |
| 06:16 | <unknow> | +++ |
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| 06:17 | <linux-fox> | twb :i come from china , i am going to build a forum for stuyding debian , |
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| 06:17 | <thomasbl> | let him make his forum ... in about 2 month he didn't had any fun with it and delete it ;) |
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| 06:18 | <_spOOn_> | why come and ask someone what you should be do? |
| 06:18 | <_spOOn_> | isnt half the fun seeing whats out there, trying all the different products etc? |
| 06:18 | <twb> | Well, personally I'd like to get rid of forae altogether. They strike me as a hideously abberant clone of NNTP for people too ignorant to use anything but a web browser. |
| 06:18 | <simon444> | linux-fox, give me the url so I can click the ads |
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| 06:19 | <twb> | _spOOn_: I'd rather go surfing |
| 06:19 | <linux-fox> | simon444 : i have not built it , it is only a plan |
| 06:19 | <_spOOn_> | exactly, i thought that seeking, and experimenting was what it was all really about? but maybe im weird? |
| 06:20 | <simon444> | linux-fox, guess your not going to make billions of dollars from my clicks |
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| 06:20 | <_spOOn_> | i guess maybe we get used of microsoft telling us what products to use, so we stop looking/trying new things for ourselves |
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| 06:21 | <_spOOn_> | i guess thats where linux comes into it :) freedom of choice |
| 06:21 | <twb> | _spOOn_: I don't see how Microsoft is relevant to anything |
| 06:21 | <_spOOn_> | twb, bad example, sorry |
| 06:21 | <twb> | It's not like any of us use their stuff. |
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| 06:22 | <simon444> | _spOOn_, linux isn't freedom of choice |
| 06:22 | <_spOOn_> | lol, im afraid i have to at work :*( |
| 06:22 | <simon444> | _spOOn_, plan 9 is freedom of choice |
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| 06:22 | <simon444> | after all linux has firefox |
| 06:22 | <simon444> | flash and many other crap |
| 06:23 | <gmax> | what is plan 9 ? |
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| 06:23 | <twb> | plan 9 is what the unix researchers built after unix. |
| 06:23 | <simon444> | !plan 9 |
| 06:23 | <dpkg> | from memory, plan9 is at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/, written by the creators of Unix and C, a highly distributed OS, filesystem layout resembles Unix somewhat. Very mouse intensive. Now under a mostly free license. |
| 06:23 | <_spOOn_> | http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/ |
| 06:23 | <twb> | They came up with /proc, for example. |
| 06:24 | <gmax> | mmm |
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| 06:25 | <_spOOn_> | i guess my point is we can CHOOSE to use firefox, flash and things alike, but with MS products, there are things that we cant actually remove |
| 06:25 | <_spOOn_> | as i said, just my opinion, as everyone is welcome to their own opinion |
| 06:25 | <_spOOn_> | :) |
| 06:26 | <simon444> | you are very blind in that |
| 06:27 | <simon444> | just saying things because you know no different |
| 06:27 | <simon444> | gtg |
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| 06:27 | <_spOOn_> | excuse me? |
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| 06:28 | <linux-fox> | i build the forum , only for studying debian with my many friends , their english is very bad , so i will build a forum ourself |
| 06:28 | <petemc> | have fun |
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| 06:29 | <maini> | hello |
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| 06:31 | <linux-fox> | when i finish the forum , i will invite everyone to my forum , |
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| 06:31 | <vC]Rajohan> | will this remove the folder and files in it: rm -d folder? |
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| 06:32 | <seanius> | vC]Rajohan: you want rm -rf folder |
| 06:32 | <GhostlyDeath> | I'd use the full path to the folder to be safe |
| 06:32 | <twb> | vC]Rajohan: don't do things as root unless you need to |
| 06:32 | <seanius> | GhostlyDeath: ++ |
| 06:32 | <vC]Rajohan> | twb how can i make a new user when im root? |
| 06:33 | <seanius> | though be careful that tab-completion does what you think it will :) |
| 06:33 | <twb> | vC]Rajohan: adduser(8) |
| 06:33 | <maini> | can mdadm handle a raid 1+1 scenario? |
| 06:33 | <twb> | maini: what is 1+1? |
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| 06:33 | <GhostlyDeath> | twb, 2! |
| 06:33 | <GhostlyDeath> | How do you not know that! =P |
| 06:33 | <_spOOn_> | :) |
| 06:33 | <vC]Rajohan> | twb: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `8' |
| 06:33 | <maini> | i have four disks sda sdb are md0 sdc sdd are md1 and md0 md1 are md2 |
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| 06:34 | <twb> | vC]Rajohan: (8) means it is a chapter 8 command. |
| 06:34 | <maini> | absolute security :) |
| 06:34 | <twb> | maini: you have two RAID1 arrays? |
| 06:34 | <maini> | yep |
| 06:34 | <twb> | Oh, I see. |
| 06:34 | <maini> | or three |
| 06:34 | <twb> | What you propose is stupid |
| 06:34 | <seanius> | maini: .... why? |
| 06:34 | <_spOOn_> | maini, why not use raid 0? |
| 06:34 | <twb> | Just have one RAID1 array with four nodes |
| 06:34 | <maini> | because the two raid 1 arrays are in a raid arrays are in a raid array too |
| 06:35 | <maini> | argh |
| 06:35 | <maini> | ^H^H^H^H |
| 06:35 | <twb> | ^W is faster |
| 06:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | What does Ctrl+H do? |
| 06:35 | <maini> | GhostlyDeath backspace :) |
| 06:35 | <Maulkin> | Delete last character |
| 06:35 | <GhostlyDeath> | ^Z is the fastest! |
| 06:35 | <twb> | GhostlyDeath: it was historically the backspace key. |
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| 06:35 | <thomasbl> | ^U :P |
| 06:35 | <maini> | raid 1 with four nodes can only handle two disk failures |
| 06:35 | <twb> | maini: says who? |
| 06:36 | <seanius> | maini: maybe only 1 |
| 06:36 | <maini> | seanius yep... |
| 06:36 | <twb> | That doesn't make any sense. |
| 06:36 | <GhostlyDeath> | I should try RAIDing floppies |
| 06:36 | <maini> | :D |
| 06:36 | <seanius> | but why not use raid5 or just have two raid1 arrays and use lvm |
| 06:37 | <twb> | Why would a RAID1 array of four nodes not be able to survive up to three disk failures (inclusive)? |
| 06:37 | <maini> | because lvm can`t mirror, or i haven`t understood how to do it :) |
| 06:37 | <Maulkin> | Well, raid5 really can't handle 2 disk failures. With raid1, you at least stand a small chance :) |
| 06:37 | <Maulkin> | twb: erm... cause then you've lost half your data |
| 06:37 | <_spOOn_> | raid 0 mirrors :) |
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| 06:37 | <twb> | Maulkin: he wanted that |
| 06:37 | <GhostlyDeath> | my 80GB failed because the firmware got fried, probably a bad ground maybe? |
| 06:37 | <Maulkin> | twb: Now I'm really confused :) |
| 06:38 | <twb> | I mean he originally asked for 1/4 active capacity |
| 06:38 | <Maulkin> | ahh, raid 1+1 then :) |
| 06:38 | <GhostlyDeath> | My data has been rotting for about a year |
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| 06:38 | <twb> | Unless I'm very much mistaken, RAID1 has EXACTLY THE SAME data on all nodes. Thus you can lose n-1 nodes safely. |
| 06:38 | <Metalqga> | find the same hdd and use the electronics to suck out the pr0n :D |
| 06:38 | <maini> | twd youre right |
| 06:38 | <maini> | maybe :) |
| 06:39 | <twb> | Then you concede that the following is false? 21:35 <maini> raid 1 with four nodes can only handle two disk failures |
| 06:39 | <Maulkin> | twb: ahh, I see. So pure raid 1 over all disks (rather than 0+1) |
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| 06:39 | <twb> | Maulkin: yes. |
| 06:39 | <Maulkin> | twb: agreed :) |
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| 06:39 | <maini> | if youre right then my qouted statement is false |
| 06:39 | <GhostlyDeath> | brb |
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| 06:40 | <maini> | then i`ll be back later and test those partitions again :) |
| 06:40 | <maini> | thanks for the help :) |
| 06:40 | <twb> | I question the need for three nodes worth of redundancy. |
| 06:41 | <twb> | I submit it would be better to have one node of redundancy and decent backups. |
| 06:41 | <maini> | this machine will store the backups :) |
| 06:42 | <maini> | bye |
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| 06:42 | <Metalqga> | has anyone tried to make a raid combining hdd and flash? |
| 06:43 | <twb> | Don't use flash for read-write storage |
| 06:43 | <twb> | Use it for systems that mostly read, and only occasionally write. |
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| 06:43 | <Metalqga> | yes flash lifecicle is too short (still) |
| 06:44 | <GhostlyDeath> | back |
| 06:44 | <Metalqga> | hey |
| 06:44 | <GhostlyDeath> | hey |
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| 06:45 | <vC]Rajohan> | how can i install tcl8.4 and tcl8.4-dev |
| 06:45 | <jm_> | the same way you install any other package |
| 06:45 | <vC]Rajohan> | i tryed aptitude install tcl8.4 but it dident find any package |
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| 06:46 | <jm_> | which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 06:46 | <GhostlyDeath> | hmm |
| 06:46 | <vC]Rajohan> | Debian Sarge |
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| 06:47 | <GhostlyDeath> | I'm planning on making a stand alone program by static linking, you guys think would using up to date libraries break the program on older systems? |
| 06:48 | <jm_> | Sarge has tcl8.4 too |
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| 06:50 | <vC]Rajohan> | jm_ im trying aptitude tcl8.4 but it dont find the package |
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| 06:50 | <seanius> | aptitude install tcl8.4 _ |
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| 06:51 | <seanius> | er, forget the _ |
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| 06:51 | <vC]Rajohan> | yeah still dont finds it |
| 06:51 | <gsimmons_> | vC]Rajohan: Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy tcl8.4"? |
| 06:52 | <vC]Rajohan> | ahh i think its allredy installed on my dedicated server |
| 06:52 | <vC]Rajohan> | the language is in dutch so i really dont understand mutch :S |
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| 06:54 | <seanius> | vC]Rajohan: maybe they have multiple locals set, you could try setting LANG=C |
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| 06:55 | <vC]Rajohan> | how can i do that? |
| 06:55 | <seanius> | try: export LANG=C LC_ALL=C |
| 06:56 | <weebl^> | does anybody know a package with has mysql support included in apache2-mod-php5 ? |
| 06:56 | <seanius> | weebl^: php5-mysql |
| 06:56 | <vC]Rajohan> | thanks :) |
| 06:56 | <weebl^> | thank you |
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| 06:57 | <weebl^> | seanius i love you |
| 06:57 | <weebl^> | i've been working at it for 5 hours but this simple package fixed it all |
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| 06:59 | <kmf_58> | kookoo |
| 07:00 | <seanius> | :) |
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| 07:01 | <ROOTweiller> | Hi from venezuelan |
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| 07:06 | <kmf_58> | cqnt |
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| 07:15 | <Knight_Lord> | Has anyone used Nagios to monitor CPU temperature? |
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| 07:17 | <sinho> | debian |
| 07:19 | <Metalqga> | just lm-sensors |
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| 07:19 | <seanius> | Knight_Lord: on dell servers using a wrapper around omsa |
| 07:20 | <seanius> | Knight_Lord: you might want to dig around on nagios-exchange.org |
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| 07:22 | <maini> | hi |
| 07:23 | <maini> | twb you were right, thankyou for the info |
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| 07:23 | <maini> | :) |
| 07:23 | <maini> | bye |
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| 07:29 | <mixter> | why does d-i install lilo sometimes and grub sometimes? |
| 07:30 | <ranix> | because sometimes you tell it to install lilo, and sometimes you tell it to install grub |
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| 07:33 | <seanius> | mixter: grub (in sarge/etch anyway) doesn't support booting from md raid, and the installer is smart enough to know this |
| 07:34 | <seanius> | maybe there are other situations where this happens too, i dunno |
| 07:35 | <ranix> | I am booting into md raid with grub |
| 07:35 | <ranix> | on two machines |
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| 07:36 | <seanius> | is /boot on md raid? |
| 07:36 | <ranix> | can lilo boot from a /boot on md raid? |
| 07:36 | <seanius> | yup |
| 07:36 | <ranix> | I put my /boot on raid 1 anyway |
| 07:36 | <seanius> | hence the above remarks :) |
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| 07:40 | <panagos> | is there lame for debian? |
| 07:40 | <gsimmons_> | !lame |
| 07:40 | <dpkg> | somebody said lame was Binary packages available from <debian-multimedia> or <rarewares>. Upstream sources, with build instructions for Debian at http://www.mp3dev.org/ or http://lame.sourceforge.net/ -- Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder. |
| 07:41 | <px> | apt-get install lame! |
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| 07:42 | <panagos> | do i need to add extra repositories? |
| 07:42 | <px> | no |
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| 07:42 | <px> | mine: deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
| 07:43 | <mixter> | seanius: ranix: i got a hardware raid card, and if i let the installer run (and if it succeds to install) i get grub on the machine, but if i do something in d-i it seems to install lilo :-/ |
| 07:44 | <gsimmons_> | !tell panagos -about debian-multimedia.etch |
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| 07:45 | <ranix> | grub/lilo are personal preference things anyway, I don't think it matters particularly |
| 07:45 | <panagos> | something else; i had read an article about mirroring debian packages in freenet. does anybody know if the idea has evolved? |
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| 07:50 | <chealer> | dpkg: no, lame is <reply>Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder. Debian does not distribute LAME due to patent and infrastructure issues. Binary packages are available from <debian-multimedia> or <rarewares>. Upstream sources, with build instructions for Debian at http://www.mp3dev.org/ or http://lame.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:50 | <dpkg> | okay, chealer |
| 07:50 | <ranix> | panagos: debian packages are not CP, thefore they will not survive on freenet |
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| 07:50 | <mixter> | ranix: i guess not, but i prefer grub :-) i've got it installed on all other machines, thats why i guess |
| 07:50 | <px> | You got it in the non-free repositorie |
| 07:50 | <panagos> | ranix: what does CP mean> |
| 07:50 | <panagos> | ranix: what does CP mean? |
| 07:50 | <lupine> | oO |
| 07:50 | <ranix> | FBI party van comes to your door and drags you away |
| 07:50 | <stew> | chealer: infastructure? |
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| 07:50 | <panagos> | is there a way to mirror debian via bittorrent? |
| 07:50 | <panagos> | the installation CDs can be downloaded via bt, for once... |
| 07:50 | <panagos> | * for one |
| 07:51 | <ranix> | that's not really feasable |
| 07:51 | <lupine> | IIRC there's work going into it |
| 07:51 | <lupine> | don't know if it's production-ready, though |
| 07:51 | <stew> | panagos: there is a google SoC project to make packages downloadable via bittorrent or somethien bittorent like |
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| 07:52 | <gsimmons_> | The installation CDs themselves are currently being distributed via BitTorrent: <http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/> |
| 07:53 | <stew> | panagos: http://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent though i don't know if all of the latest info is there |
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| 07:54 | <vC]Rajohan> | where is usually apache located on an dedicated serveR? |
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| 07:55 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: /usr/lib/apache or /usr/lib/apache2 |
| 07:55 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: depending on what you mean |
| 07:55 | <Petrov> | can i install debian? partition of 2GB |
| 07:55 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
| 07:55 | <ranix> | start-up is in /etc/init.d and configuration is /etc/apache or /etc/apache2 |
| 07:55 | <panagos> | debtorrent would really be a good idea, in my opinion |
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| 07:56 | <mixter> | seanius: grub doesn't support lvm, md should be ok. i use grub on several machines with md raid-1 |
| 07:56 | <stew> | Petrov: the minumum required is around 500MB |
| 07:56 | <Petrov> | only lamp, ssh, maybe vpn-server and not fluxbox, gnome, kde,... |
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| 07:56 | <stew> | Petrov: yes |
| 07:56 | <mixter> | seanius: i saw in the logs now that d-i chooses lilo instead since /boot is on lvm |
| 07:56 | <Petrov> | stew, oké, thx! |
| 07:56 | <mixter> | seanius: thanks! |
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| 07:57 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew i need to folder where i can put documents |
| 07:57 | <gsimmons_> | vC]Rajohan: That's the document root (DocumentRoot). Typically /var/www. |
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| 08:02 | <chealer> | stew: Debian doesn't have infrastructure to legally distribute software which is illegal to distribute in a specific country (e.g. non-us) |
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| 08:03 | <stew> | chealer: but even if it did, it wouldn't |
| 08:04 | <ctatuk> | Why is http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/bind9/bind9_9.3.4-2etch1/changelog nonexistent? |
| 08:04 | <ctatuk> | Security updates aren't required to have changelog entries..? |
| 08:04 | <azeem> | ctatuk: packages.d.o is broken currently I think |
| 08:04 | <chealer> | stew: why? |
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| 08:05 | <ctatuk> | azeem: actually no, because the previous version hase a changelog |
| 08:05 | <azeem> | ctatuk: how does that proof it is not broken? |
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| 08:05 | <ctatuk> | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/bind9/bind9_9.3.4-2/ |
| 08:05 | <ctatuk> | heh |
| 08:05 | <chealer> | ctatuk: #368939 |
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| 08:06 | [~] | chealer bbl |
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| 08:06 | <stew> | chealer: becuase the software is protected by patent. it is completely different than the situation with non-us. with non-us, it was still legal for a person in the us to download and use the software, with lame it is not the case |
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| 08:07 | <chealer> | stew: right. it's the same thing, but in the other end.< |
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| 08:08 | [~] | chealer really has to go. |
| 08:08 | <ctatuk> | chealer: Well I just wanted to provide some type of peace of validity for my own sake to know that theses security updates I'm applying to my stable system are legitimate, other than just the fact that it's coming from synaptic. |
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| 08:09 | <ctatuk> | And just think it's interesting that the debian package page actually links to the security update version changelog, yet it's a 404. |
| 08:09 | <chealer> | ctatuk: it should be safe. we have "Secure APT" now. |
| 08:09 | <azeem> | ctatuk: you can inspect the changelog locally |
| 08:09 | <ctatuk> | Oh? never heard of that |
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| 08:09 | <azeem> | download the package, extract it to a temporary location, read the changelog |
| 08:09 | <ctatuk> | azeem: _after_ I apply the package upgrade, I assume? |
| 08:09 | <ctatuk> | ^^ |
| 08:10 | <azeem> | also, there's apt-listchanges |
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| 08:12 | <ctatuk> | thanks for the info |
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| 08:15 | <gmax> | hi folks |
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| 08:17 | <gmax> | anyone know the difference between linux-image-2.6-vserver-686 and linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 08:17 | <simon444> | yes |
| 08:18 | <gmax> | i did an apt-get show on both but they seem the same |
| 08:18 | <simon444> | one has the vserver patch |
| 08:18 | <AD2> | I upgraded my kernel yesterday do to some issues with some modules... and today i'm getting this kernel BUG at mm/rmap.c:522!, I'm on Linux version 2.6.18-4-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2) |
| 08:18 | <gmax> | ok |
| 08:18 | <gmax> | is vserver to do with vmware ? |
| 08:19 | <gsimmons_> | !vserver |
| 08:19 | <dpkg> | Linux-VServer allows you to create virtual private servers and security contexts which operate like a normal Linux server, but allow many independent servers to be run simultaneously in one box at full speed. http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxVserver |
| 08:19 | <gmax> | mmmm kewl |
| 08:19 | <gmax> | thanks for that |
| 08:19 | <AD2> | has anyone experienced the mm/rmap.c bug? |
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| 08:43 | <eurisko> | anyone using acpi4asus? |
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| 08:46 | <samo_> | hi, i have setup a postfix server and i would liketo be able to use it (using pop) from outside my network |
| 08:46 | <samo_> | i have installed sasl2 |
| 08:47 | <samo_> | but i still get the relay denied message in the mail.info logs... can someone help me ? |
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| 08:48 | <E0x> | samo_: http://wiki.debian.org/Manual-Howto#head-d1a8ac2105c29c3d5b1a80dd20e1357a0258333c |
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| 08:48 | <Cave`> | /msg nickserv register cvvvyrwj |
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| 08:48 | <twb> | Silly boy |
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| 08:49 | <twb> | samo_: postfix is an smtp server, not a pop server. |
| 08:49 | <samo_> | twb, my mistake, i want to use it using smtp from the outside of my network |
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| 08:49 | <twb> | pop servers will provide the virtual- ok. |
| 08:50 | <twb> | I don't know about that; I know there is a #postfix on freenode. |
| 08:50 | <Metalqga> | nice place to post your passwords :D |
| 08:50 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: You'd want to read /usr/share/doc/sasl2-bin/README.Debian for information regarding saslauthd configuration for Postfix use. |
| 08:51 | <samo_> | gsimmons, thanks i will try that |
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| 08:53 | <linux> | hai |
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| 08:58 | <Metalqga`> | i lost my internet connection once again |
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| 09:02 | <ne> | Hi all!, I am using Debian-etch. I adjusted the time,clock exactly same with other computers. But now almost 1 month passed debian box is 6 mins late. do you have an idea? |
| 09:03 | <mjk> | ne: Was the computer running all the time? 1 month? |
| 09:03 | <ne> | yes |
| 09:03 | <ne> | without shutdown, it is runing |
| 09:03 | <mjk> | ne: At least I know a remedy: ntp |
| 09:03 | <twb> | ne: install both ntpdate AND ntp-simple |
| 09:04 | <ne> | Ok! |
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| 09:06 | <faderhval> | greetings guys :) im trying to set up samba but when i try to connect with smbclient //hostname/user i get nt status bad network name any ideas what to do? |
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| 09:07 | <Metalqga`> | firewall? |
| 09:07 | <ne> | try with IP number |
| 09:07 | <Metalqga`> | actually smb://192.168.0.x |
| 09:07 | <faderhval> | firewall is open |
| 09:08 | <faderhval> | no such catalouge |
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| 09:09 | <faderhval> | same respons with ip. |
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| 09:10 | <samo_> | gsimmons, I read this document and I ve done what s described in it |
| 09:10 | <samo_> | gsimmons, still no luck |
| 09:10 | <ne> | faderhval : you did not forget to restart samba, did not you? |
| 09:11 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: You're still receiving "relay denied"? Any hints in /var/log/mail.log? |
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| 09:13 | <samo_> | gsimmons : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT ...... relay access denied |
| 09:13 | <samo_> | i have added the options sasl_auth_enable = yes in main.cf and restarted postfix |
| 09:14 | <samo_> | i aslo added : smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, reject |
| 09:14 | <samo_> | relayhost = |
| 09:14 | <bact3ria> | Alguem pode me dar uma ajuda em redirecionar conexão vpn para um servidor windows 2003? |
| 09:14 | <samo_> | relay_domains = $transport_maps |
| 09:14 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: Please pastebin your current /etc/postfix/main.cf and the last 10 or so lines of your /var/log/mail.log. |
| 09:15 | <gsimmons_> | !paste |
| 09:15 | <dpkg> | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 09:15 | <faderhval> | ne: nope i remembered |
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| 09:16 | <samo_> | gsimmons : http://paste.debian.net/33456 |
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| 09:22 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: I don't see any SASL logins in your mail.log. Have you configured /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf and /etc/default/saslauthd? Is 'saslauthd' running? |
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| 09:23 | <samo_> | gsimmons, yes, it is running |
| 09:24 | <samo_> | gsimmons, when i first installed it, i had references to it in the logs (saying the authentification had failed) i fixed an error in saslauthd file (the query was wrong) and since, no reference to it anymore in the logs |
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| 09:25 | <samo_> | gsimmons, what should the mech_list be (i have passwords in mysql , they're crypted using md5) |
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| 09:29 | <seanius> | samo_: you probably need the mysql pam module |
| 09:29 | <ranix> | There was recently a retarded change to saslauthd's configuration script that added a variable that prevents it from running at all if set to "no" |
| 09:29 | <ranix> | It's like 3 I think, Start=Yes/No |
| 09:29 | <samo_> | seanius, yes, i found that out through the logs earlier and installed this module |
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| 09:30 | <seanius> | ah, sorry i missed that. are you using an imap server too btw? |
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| 09:30 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: The mech_list depends on what's supported by your MUA. I personally use 'plain' as the endpoints are already encrypted owing to TLS. |
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| 09:31 | [~] | seanius has plain and login in his |
| 09:31 | <samo_> | seanius, i haveinstalled squirrel mail and that works (send and receive) |
| 09:31 | <ranix> | Squirrelmail uses imap for receiving usually, and sendmail for transmission |
| 09:31 | <ranix> | so it might be irrelevant |
| 09:32 | <samo_> | gsimmons, i didn't set tls (yet) but the passwords are encrypted in the db (with the mysql password command) |
| 09:32 | <seanius> | samo_: but you're not using an imap daemon like courier or dovecot |
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| 09:32 | <samo_> | seanius, yes i set courier up too |
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| 09:32 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: But there's not even any SASL logins being attempted, let alone verified. I'd check your MUA. :) |
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| 09:32 | <seanius> | ah, okay. i was just thinking if you were using dovecot that it has a built in auth daemon that can replace saslauthd iirc |
| 09:33 | <samo_> | gsimmons, what's the mua ? |
| 09:33 | <ranix> | Mail User Agent, i.e. thunderbird or outlook |
| 09:33 | <ranix> | or squirrelmail |
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| 09:34 | <ranix> | I enjoy squirrelmail immensely, it's very amusing |
| 09:34 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: I think you just haven't turned on TLS/authentication in your MUA. You're receiving the 'relay denied' message as your message isn't permitted in any other of Postfix's SMTP client restrictions. |
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| 09:35 | <ranix> | You will receive a 'relay not permitted'-esque message if yor MUA is not attempting to authenticate properly |
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| 09:35 | <ranix> | You can find the root cause of the problem by performing a manual connection to your MTA with telnet, to port 25 |
| 09:35 | <samo_> | gsimmons, thanks a lot, that was it ! :) |
| 09:36 | <seanius> | samo_: so again forgive my lack of scrollback... have you verified that saslauthd is authenticating properly? |
| 09:36 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: np |
| 09:36 | <samo_> | gsimmons, seanius, ranix thank you allfor your help |
| 09:36 | <seanius> | ah, nm |
| 09:36 | <ranix> | haha np |
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| 09:36 | <ranix> | gsimmons_ taught me how to use spec.txt once |
| 09:36 | <samo_> | i keep notes of everything i learn here, i hope someday i won't be a debian newb anymore :) |
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| 09:37 | <samo_> | gsimmons, one more questions, since you read my postfix configuration. My setup shouldn't be open relay, right ? |
| 09:37 | <ranix> | you can test whether or not it's an open relay by just telneting to it at port 25 |
| 09:38 | <ranix> | connect and pretend you're a spammer, just send a message to president@whitehouse.gov and tell it you're foo@harbl.bar |
| 09:38 | <seanius> | there are also open-relay testing services, which are generally a good thing to do as part of reviewing your config |
| 09:38 | <gsimmons_> | samo_: That depends on your contents of your $transport_maps. But try sending mail on behalf of "other" domains as suggested by ranix. |
| 09:39 | <seanius> | samo_: http://www.abuse.net/relay.html |
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| 09:39 | <samo_> | thanks to you all again, i will do |
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| 09:43 | <alumno> | hello |
| 09:43 | <alumno> | hola |
| 09:44 | <Pobega> | Hello. |
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| 09:49 | <faderhval> | !samba |
| 09:49 | <dpkg> | it has been said that samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 09:49 | <ranix> | Samba is much easier than it appears to be at first glance |
| 09:50 | <faderhval> | well i think its working but i got 2 problems... one for some reason i cant log on to my linux machine from my win and when trying from linux to win i get nt status bad network name |
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| 09:52 | <ranix> | faderhval: when connecting to the windows share from linux you use the format mount -t smbfs -o username=ranix,password=sneakers //windowsname/sharename /media/mountpoint |
| 09:52 | <ranix> | yes? |
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| 09:53 | <faderhval> | no didnt i had to i just use smbclient //winname/username |
| 09:54 | <faderhval> | didnt know* |
| 09:54 | <ranix> | //windowsname can be replaced with dotted quad notation such as //192.168.0.16/sharename |
| 09:54 | <ranix> | I am unfamiliar with smbclient |
| 09:54 | <ranix> | it |
| 09:54 | <vC]Rajohan> | if php i installed where is it located? |
| 09:54 | <vC]Rajohan> | is* |
| 09:54 | <ranix> | it's probably an improper argument issue with smbclient, faderhval |
| 09:55 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: "dpkg -L packagename" will show you where the files from the package are installed |
| 09:55 | <ranix> | vC]Rajohan: if php is installed it is probably located in /usr/bin |
| 09:55 | <ranix> | the executable, that is |
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| 09:56 | <ranix> | However, knowing that information is not very useful and I would wonder why you need to know. (also try whereis php) |
| 09:56 | <vC]Rajohan> | Package `php' is not installed. |
| 09:56 | <ranix> | php5 or php4 |
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| 09:56 | <ranix> | if you forget a package name, try apt-cache search php for hints |
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| 09:58 | <faderhval> | ranix: if you have the time could you elaborate a bit im quite new to linux commandline in general |
| 09:58 | <faderhval> | hm |
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| 09:58 | <vC]Rajohan> | no dont seams like php is installed but i got apache and mysql |
| 09:58 | <vC]Rajohan> | is it hard to add php? |
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| 09:59 | <ranix> | faderhval: to figure out command line arguments to commands, try out "command --help" "command -h" and "man command" |
| 09:59 | <vC]Rajohan> | if i type |
| 09:59 | <vC]Rajohan> | php4 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package) |
| 09:59 | <vC]Rajohan> | if i type apt-cache search php i get that and much more |
| 10:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | does that mean php is installed? |
| 10:00 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: is there a reason you need php4 and not php5? |
| 10:00 | <ranix> | faderhval: to find the RIGHT command, either learn to read man pages (which isn't as easy as some people make it sound, it's just an aquired taste) or search google. Ask in here when you feel like it |
| 10:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew no but, its preinstalled |
| 10:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | should be |
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| 10:00 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: are you running apache or apache2? |
| 10:00 | <ranix> | man smbfs is a good place to start to learn about samba, IIRC |
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| 10:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | apache i think |
| 10:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | folder name is apache |
| 10:01 | <mjk> | vC]Rajohan: No, it just searches the software repository. To find out if a package is installed, you can use "dpkg -l". |
| 10:01 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: then install libapache-mod-php4 or libapache-mod-php5 |
| 10:01 | <faderhval> | thanks |
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| 10:01 | <ranix> | apt-cache search is only for finding what package names are, or finding related packages to a search string |
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| 10:02 | <ranix> | So for example if you have php installed and don't know what package name it is, apt-cache search php can give you a clue |
| 10:02 | <stew> | well if it is installed you could do "dpkg -l \*php\*" |
| 10:02 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew i just get see install --help with bthat |
| 10:02 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: what command did you type? |
| 10:02 | <vC]Rajohan> | install libapache-mod-php5 |
| 10:03 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: you wan "aptitude install libapache-mod-php5" |
| 10:03 | <ranix> | try apt-get install php5 |
| 10:03 | <stew> | ^wan^want |
| 10:03 | <ranix> | aptitude is lame |
| 10:03 | <vC]Rajohan> | but its seams like php 4 is installed.. if i type dpkg -l \*php\* i get a list of php4 things |
| 10:03 | <stew> | ranix: libapache-mod-php5 would install php5 and the libapache-mod-php5 which is what he needs in order to use it with apache, which is what he is asking |
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| 10:03 | <stew> | ranix: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 10:03 | <mjk> | vC]Rajohan: It depends on what's printed in the first column. |
| 10:04 | <stew> | mjk: second column, not first |
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| 10:04 | <ranix> | apt-get has been my friend since 2000 |
| 10:04 | <ranix> | he will not be easily replaced |
| 10:04 | <ranix> | .:( |
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| 10:04 | <vC]Rajohan> | http://www.pastebin.ca/634597 |
| 10:04 | <mjk> | stew: Err, first. |
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| 10:04 | <mjk> | stew: The second is the package name. |
| 10:04 | <vC]Rajohan> | thats what i getting with dpkg -l \*php\* |
| 10:04 | <stew> | mjk: i meant the second letter in the first column |
| 10:04 | <mjk> | stew: Aaah, okay. |
| 10:05 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: you can "aptitude install libapache-mod-php4" if you really want 4, but it is recommended that you use 5 unless you have a reason not to. the fact that php4 is installed now doesn't really matter |
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| 10:05 | <vC]Rajohan> | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 10:05 | <vC]Rajohan> | im getting that |
| 10:06 | <ranix> | I think we have reached a point where we must ask why you need to know where php is |
| 10:06 | <ranix> | your request may be misguided |
| 10:06 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: so it is in fact already installed |
| 10:06 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: are you having trouble using it? |
| 10:07 | <vC]Rajohan> | yes when i upload a php file my browser just ask if i will download |
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| 10:07 | <vC]Rajohan> | http://www.pastebin.ca/634597 <-- thats what im getting with dpkg -l \*php\* |
| 10:07 | <ranix> | Aha! |
| 10:07 | <seanius> | vC]Rajohan: it could be that php is installed but not configured |
| 10:07 | <ranix> | you have an apache configuration problem |
| 10:08 | <vC]Rajohan> | hmm how can i fix that |
| 10:08 | <seanius> | vC]Rajohan : a2enmod php4; /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 10:08 | <seanius> | though this should have been done already |
| 10:08 | <ranix> | You are using apache2, yes? not apache? |
| 10:09 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: run "apache-modconf apache enable mod_php4" |
| 10:09 | <stew> | no, he's using apache |
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| 10:09 | <ranix> | vC]Rajohan do an ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled |
| 10:09 | <vC]Rajohan> | ^[[AReplacing config file /etc/apache/modules.conf with new version |
| 10:10 | <ranix> | nevermind, ignore me |
| 10:10 | [~] | seanius should have read the pastebin output apparently |
| 10:10 | <ranix> | you definitely have apache, not apache2 |
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| 10:10 | <arap> | !Tr |
| 10:10 | <dpkg> | methinks tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian-tr (irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 10:10 | <ranix> | Do you have a reason for using apache rather than apache2? |
| 10:10 | <vC]Rajohan> | as i said its preinstalled on the dedictewd server when i buy it |
| 10:10 | <ranix> | ah |
| 10:11 | <ranix> | I would just do an apt-get install apache2 |
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| 10:11 | <ranix> | and watch it magically solve your problem |
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| 10:11 | <vC]Rajohan> | will i have to install mysql and php again then? |
| 10:11 | <arap> | !ru |
| 10:11 | <dpkg> | i heard ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 10:12 | <arap> | Dea aqoim. |
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| 10:12 | <vC]Rajohan> | ranix will i have to install php and mysql again then? |
| 10:13 | <ranix> | mysql no, php maybe but it's a simple thing |
| 10:13 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
| 10:13 | <simon444> | !en |
| 10:13 | <dpkg> | english |
| 10:13 | <simon444> | !english |
| 10:13 | <dpkg> | [english] a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
| 10:13 | <Sh3ytaN> | !turkish |
| 10:13 | <dpkg> | hmm... turkish is #turklug, or trke yardm iin #debian.tr |
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| 10:13 | <Sh3ytaN> | =) |
| 10:13 | <ranix> | apt-get install apache2 apache2-mod-php5 |
| 10:13 | <ranix> | should take care of it |
| 10:14 | <simon444> | !jewish |
| 10:14 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, jewish is the religion of jews |
| 10:14 | <stew> | !+info apache2-mod-php5 |
| 10:14 | <dpkg> | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 10:14 | <dpkg> | Package 'apache2-mod-php5' does not exist. |
| 10:14 | <stew> | simon444: please /msg the bot |
| 10:14 | <ranix> | I'm sorry |
| 10:14 | <ranix> | apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 10:14 | <rm> | Hello, my question is about CUPS. I' have Debian 4.0 installed. With what user-priviliegies does CUPS exceute a backend script? |
| 10:15 | <vC]Rajohan> | ranix Package libapache2-mod-php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 10:15 | <ranix> | apt-get update |
| 10:15 | <simon444> | dpkg, No, Jewish is amongst Yiddish speaking people English for Yiddish. |
| 10:15 | <dpkg> | simon444: okay |
| 10:15 | <simon444> | stew, okay sorry |
| 10:15 | <stew> | wtf |
| 10:16 | <stew> | !forget jewish |
| 10:16 | <simon444> | !Jewish |
| 10:16 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, jewish is English for Yiddish |
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| 10:17 | <simon444> | stew, I don't think !forgot works |
| 10:17 | <stew> | simon444: stop playing with the bot |
| 10:17 | <fxiny> | is simon444 in ? |
| 10:17 | <fxiny> | hahahah |
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| 10:17 | <Sh3ytaN> | ahahah |
| 10:17 | <Sh3ytaN> | :D |
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| 10:18 | <Metalqga> | here is what i've found http://paste.debian.net/33463 |
| 10:18 | <rm> | Hey I have a question, about CUPS, where to ask?? |
| 10:18 | <Metalqga> | ask here |
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| 10:19 | <rm> | With what user-priviliegies does CUPS exceute a backend script? |
| 10:19 | <rm> | Debian 4.0 |
| 10:19 | <rm> | My Problem is about that CUPS exceute a backend script, but seem not to have enough priviliges. |
| 10:20 | <Sh3ytaN> | Kýslarr. |
| 10:20 | <vC]Rajohan> | hwo to i restart apache2? |
| 10:20 | <Sh3ytaN> | Sh3ytaN@LinuxmaiL.Org |
| 10:20 | <Sh3ytaN> | add Msn (h) |
| 10:20 | <ranix> | rm: IIRC cups has its own user |
| 10:20 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ; although usually "reload" or "force-reload" are only needed, not "restart" |
| 10:21 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
| 10:21 | <simon444> | lol tickets to America are more expensive on 9/11 |
| 10:21 | <rm> | ranix: So, if I want CUPS running a script with root-priviliges, user cups must be in group root? |
| 10:21 | <simon444> | whoops wrong channel |
| 10:21 | <ranix> | rm: wouldn't be able to tell you more, I use lpd because cups eats ass regularly |
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| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | yarram |
| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | ok |
| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | :D |
| 10:21 | <simon444> | Sh3ytaN is a spam bot? |
| 10:21 | <rm> | ranix: that's my problem also |
| 10:21 | <ranix> | cups user having group root is probably a bad idea |
| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | simon444 |
| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | hahahah |
| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | :D |
| 10:21 | <Sh3ytaN> | No. |
| 10:22 | <stew> | Sh3ytaN: do you ahve a debian related question? |
| 10:22 | <mjk> | A stoned spam bot maybe? |
| 10:22 | <ranix> | try chowning the script in question to root:cups, and use the setUID bit |
| 10:22 | <Sh3ytaN> | Fuck :D |
| 10:22 | <rm> | ranix: yes but else, the script (backend) does not work properly |
| 10:22 | <Metalqga> | stew I have a question |
| 10:22 | <Sh3ytaN> | heLp me |
| 10:22 | <Sh3ytaN> | dd0s exe. |
| 10:22 | <Sh3ytaN> | ;( |
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| 10:22 | <rm> | ranix: sorry, how to do that? |
| 10:22 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 10:22 | <Metalqga> | i lose my internet connection and dont know why...... |
| 10:22 | <ranix> | rm: google linux permissions |
| 10:22 | <stew> | Sh3ytaN: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. in the future, please keep it on-topic |
| 10:22 | <faderhval> | !samba |
| 10:22 | <dpkg> | somebody said samba was a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 10:23 | <ranix> | you're looking for SetUID and SetGID |
| 10:23 | <fxiny> | fresh air |
| 10:23 | <rm> | ranix: ok |
| 10:23 | <stew> | simon444: do you have any debian related questions? |
| 10:23 | <ranix> | setuid on an executable script runs the script as if the invoker were the owner |
| 10:23 | <mjk> | stew: Um, I think that's a bot. |
| 10:23 | <stew> | mjk: what? |
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| 10:23 | <ranix> | it is less insecure than giving the actual user root permission |
| 10:24 | <ranix> | However, saying it is more secure might be a stretch |
| 10:24 | <mjk> | stew: I'd say Sh3ytaN/Kruis is a bot. (Or someone so stoned he acts like one) |
| 10:24 | <simon444> | stew, no, I have a debian related answers. Didn't you ask this yesterday and I answer this yesterday? |
| 10:24 | <rm> | ranix: aha, thanks |
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| 10:24 | <fxiny> | hmmm |
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| 10:24 | <Metalqga> | kick him |
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| 10:25 | <stew> | simon444: yes, but you seem to be mostly off-topic, and annoying people (which is why people keep asking you this). Furthermore you are abusing the bot. please keep it on-topic |
| 10:25 | <simon444> | loL, not funny |
| 10:25 | <Metalqga> | changes his nick so often |
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| 10:25 | <stew> | err, crap |
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| 10:26 | <fxiny> | seems a painkiler game |
| 10:26 | <weebl^> | i'm hungry |
| 10:26 | <fxiny> | another one ? |
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| 10:26 | <mjk> | weebl^: Don't mention hunger, now I'm hungry, too. |
| 10:26 | <weebl^> | :E |
| 10:26 | <Metalqga> | i lose my internet connection and dont know why...... does anybody wants fo find out why>? |
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| 10:26 | <simon444> | lol |
| 10:27 | <weebl^> | mjk you like bagels? |
| 10:27 | <Metalqga> | i'm baking pizza, mjk :D |
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| 10:27 | <mjk> | weebl^: Don't know what that is. Let me google ... |
| 10:28 | <weebl^> | google image bagel |
| 10:28 | <mjk> | weebl^: Hmm ... interesting, but I think I'll make me a few slices of Real Bread(tm). :-) |
| 10:28 | [~] | fxiny sends a very little nutella jar to mjk |
| 10:29 | <weebl^> | i'd like some smoked salmon |
| 10:29 | [~] | mjk hands over a few slices of http://www.telecom.at/kasses/vintschgerl.JPG to weebl^ and fxiny. |
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| 10:29 | <weebl^> | mjk you know that much fiber isn't healthy |
| 10:29 | <Metalqga> | keep the topic :D |
| 10:30 | <mjk> | weebl^: Why's that? It tastes good, it can't be unhealthy. ;-) |
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| 10:30 | <mjk> | weebl^: And as long they're indigestible, I don't gain weight that much. :-P |
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| 10:42 | <vC]Rajohan> | is there any good control panels like cpanel that is free? |
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| 10:46 | <simon444> | vC]Rajohan, yes, CLI. |
| 10:47 | <simon444> | vC]Rajohan, also I wouldn't call cpanel good, but you are free to have your opinion |
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| 10:48 | <petemc> | vC]Rajohan: wikipedia has a list of hosting control panels |
| 10:49 | <@stew> | vC]Rajohan: vhcs is probably one of the better free ones, but i have little experience with it myself. not many people around here use them |
| 10:49 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
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| 10:50 | <vC]Rajohan> | is this things hard to install? |
| 10:51 | <@stew> | yes |
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| 10:51 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
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| 10:51 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: since there are none officially packaged, installation is not likely to be straightforward |
| 10:51 | <stew> | (afaik) |
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| 10:52 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok i will have to use the dutch one i got with the server then |
| 10:53 | <vC]Rajohan> | Someone know what this means: Es ist keine Domain angegeben worden. and what this means: Fehler bei FTP-Zugang. User-Name wird bereits in passwd verwendet. ? |
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| 10:56 | <SixF9> | what is the problem when device nodes are missing on the system? |
| 10:56 | <stew> | SixF9: you mean files in /dev? are you using udev? |
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| 10:57 | <SixF9> | yep |
| 10:57 | <stew> | SixF9: what exactly is missing? |
| 10:57 | <SixF9> | eth0 and the lot |
| 10:58 | <stew> | SixF9: eth0 wouldn't show up in /dev |
| 10:58 | <SixF9> | so the driver cant be loaded |
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| 10:58 | <pumpkin0> | SixF9: eth0 is not a /dev-thing |
| 10:58 | <stew> | SixF9: what makes you say the driver can't be loaded? are you trying to load it? with which command? |
| 10:59 | <SixF9> | on boot, i get "no such device" when it tries to prepare the network |
| 11:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | is there any ftp clints thats easy to set up and witch i can add users to |
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| 11:00 | <JasonS> | vC]Rajohan: all of them |
| 11:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | name one plz i have no names |
| 11:00 | <JasonS> | well some more easy then others no doubt |
| 11:01 | <petemc> | gftp , ncftp |
| 11:01 | <stew> | SixF9: what network card do you have? |
| 11:01 | <stew> | SixF9: does it show up in "ifconfig -a"? perhaps the name changed? which device(s) do you have configured in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 11:01 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: you want to add a user to a ftp *client*? or an ftp server? |
| 11:02 | <pumpkin0> | vC]Rajohan: client or server ? You don't add users to clients... |
| 11:02 | <vC]Rajohan> | i meant server not client. i need to get up an ftp server on my dedicated server so i can upload files to my www directory |
| 11:02 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: is there a reason you would use ftp instead of scp/sftp? |
| 11:02 | <vC]Rajohan> | dont know what scp or sftp is |
| 11:03 | <vC]Rajohan> | but i think it would be easier for me with an ftp server |
| 11:03 | <pumpkin0> | vC]Rajohan: ftp = everything in clear (including passwords), sXYZ = everything encrypted via ssh/ssl. |
| 11:03 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: they are secure methods of transferring files. ftp is insecure in that your password (and everything else) goes over then network the network unencrypted |
| 11:04 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: if can ssh to the box, you can already scp/sftp to the box |
| 11:04 | <vC]Rajohan> | yes but, i dont understand the command |
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| 11:05 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: scp works just like cp but will take a hostname, so "scp some/local/file remotemachine:/path/to/destination" will copy a file to remotemachine |
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| 11:05 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: and sftp works just like ftp |
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| 11:07 | <vC]Rajohan> | can i upload files from my pc to that then? |
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| 11:08 | <pumpkin0> | vC]Rajohan: up and down, encrypted, w/o installing any software. |
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| 11:16 | <jeaneid> | has anyone been able to get two ati sapphire cards working on a single driver. I have two dual heads that I am trying to get working, one of which only works. Th4e motherboard is a tyan tempest s5380. I am trying to have a triple head machine, but only two heads are working(only one card works) |
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| 11:18 | <simon444> | did you try google |
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| 11:18 | <lontra> | is there a way to tell kpowersave to suspend when i close my laptop lid? |
| 11:18 | <simon444> | !google |
| 11:18 | <dpkg> | from memory, google is a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. It's website can be found at http://www.google.com |
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| 11:19 | <simon444> | lontra, yes. Can't remember how. |
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| 11:19 | <stew> | jeaneid: which chipset does that card have? |
| 11:20 | <faderhval> | right... i've finally managed to setup samba and the server shows on my windows machine but... i cant add a user with smbpasswd -a username |
| 11:20 | <simon444> | lontra, Google doesn't have that feature yet |
| 11:21 | <fxiny> | lontra: there is a thread on debian-kde@lists.debian.org . i havn't read it |
| 11:22 | <faderhval> | !samba |
| 11:22 | <dpkg> | methinks samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
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| 11:25 | <donfede> | has anyone had problems (or success) installing etch to a mirrored raid? (we experienced last night, the raid being created with /dev/sda [instead of the partition /dev/sda2] ) |
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| 11:27 | <Archimed> | hi, i need to install nGEAR 5 PORT USB 2 card on Debian Etch |
| 11:27 | <Archimed> | can anyone help? |
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| 11:29 | <simon444> | too many questions; segfualt |
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| 11:33 | <pumpkin0> | jeaneid: which dirver do you use ? www.ati.com or apt-get install xorg....radeon ? |
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| 11:42 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew is it like this sftp dir/on/my/win/computer dir/on/dedictated/server ? |
| 11:42 | <zarchne> | When I see an error like "read: 130: Illegal option -d" when doing "aptitude upgrade", which is presumably related to taking the /bin/sh -> dash option, against what should I be filing the bug? |
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| 11:46 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: no, if you want run it like that you would use: scp -r /dir/on/your/computer servername:/dir/on/server |
| 11:47 | <vC]Rajohan> | servername is my username? |
| 11:47 | <simon444> | hi umbriel |
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| 11:47 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: servername is the name or ip of the server |
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| 11:47 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
| 11:48 | <umbriel> | TROUBLESHOOTING TIP: If you have Linux installed on an old Notebook (like i have) and you have soundcard problems, try this... |
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| 11:50 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew will that copy from my pc to the server og will it download from the server to my pc |
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| 11:50 | <simon444> | umbriel, what? |
| 11:50 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: from pc to server, its "scp fromfiles tolocation" |
| 11:51 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
| 11:51 | <vC]Rajohan> | so this will work: scp -r C:\Users\Raymond\Desktop\req-banner.jpg request-gaming.com:/var/www/ |
| 11:51 | <vC]Rajohan> | ? |
| 11:52 | <fxiny> | umbriel: try this what ? a salvation army trumpet ? |
| 11:52 | <vC]Rajohan> | request-gaming.com is the same as the servers ip adress |
| 11:52 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: i'm not sure about the C:\ part, i don't know much about windows |
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| 11:53 | <sobersabre> | hi. |
| 11:53 | <ricky> | Hello. |
| 11:53 | <simon444> | holle |
| 11:53 | <sobersabre> | I have a question. There's a debian server. it is IBM machine called "NetVista". |
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| 11:54 | <fxiny> | bad omen |
| 11:54 | <sobersabre> | when working interactively, the machine stalls for moment upto several minutes to do any operation. even such that doesn't require gethostbyname()/gethostbyaddress() |
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| 11:55 | <sobersabre> | the DNS works correctly, I've measured it with dig. |
| 11:55 | <simon444> | fxiny, and someone who has a similar name to fucker joins. You must be onto something. |
| 11:55 | <sobersabre> | there seems to be some wierd hardware problem, but I cannot find any direction. |
| 11:55 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew when i type it nothing happens im just getting an blank line and cant do anything now and have to relogin to server |
| 11:55 | <stew> | sobersabre: run "vmstat 1" in another shell, then go about your business, and then show us the output of vmstat from when the machine was freezing |
| 11:56 | <sobersabre> | I have tried to look for ACPI/APM, temperature stuff. NADA. ZIP. |
| 11:56 | <sobersabre> | stew: gimme a minute. |
| 11:56 | <sobersabre> | the load average generally is low. |
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| 11:57 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: exactly what did you type? |
| 11:57 | <vC]Rajohan> | scp -r C:\Users\Raymond\Desktop\req-banner.jpg request-gaming.com:/var/www/ |
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| 11:57 | <duke> | ? |
| 11:58 | <sobersabre> | stew: currently the "vmstat" program is stuck, it showed the regular 0 args output, and the cursor is stuck at the start of the next line |
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| 11:58 | <fxiny> | simon444: i'm wearing a dried as a bone rm.williams blowing a virtual didgeridoo at passers by |
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| 11:59 | <sobersabre> | stew: what does vmstat 1 do ? poll on vmstat ? |
| 11:59 | <simon444> | Duke, yes? |
| 11:59 | <fxiny> | simon444: or do you prefere an oil skin ? |
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| 12:00 | <simon444> | fxiny, whatever |
| 12:00 | <abraxas> | hello |
| 12:00 | <sobersabre> | hi, abraxas |
| 12:00 | <simon444> | hello Israeli |
| 12:00 | <stew> | fixxxer: simon444: take it elsewhere |
| 12:00 | <abraxas> | palestinian sobersabre |
| 12:00 | <abraxas> | someone can tell me how to fix it? http://pastebin.com/m6ebd5f7e |
| 12:01 | <sobersabre> | abraxas: is this the only thing u want to say in herre ? |
| 12:01 | <fxiny> | stew: fixxer ? heeheh i like yor style :) |
| 12:01 | <stew> | sobersabre: vmstat polls /proc/stat ; "vmstat 1" tells it to poll once a second |
| 12:01 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, u called me israeli, I told im not israeli |
| 12:01 | <abraxas> | well...im jew,but antizionist |
| 12:01 | <abraxas> | :-) |
| 12:02 | <stew> | abraxas: sr0 should be a cdrom drive |
| 12:02 | <abraxas> | stew, but my cdrom works ok |
| 12:02 | <sobersabre> | abraxas: I told you "hi, abraxas". |
| 12:03 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, sorry so,it was for simon :-) |
| 12:03 | <stew> | just forget it and move on |
| 12:03 | <stew> | abraxas: is there a cd in the drive when you boot? |
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| 12:03 | <abraxas> | stew, i dont need to worry then? |
| 12:03 | <sobersabre> | if you are connected to netvision.net.il, you are israeli arab, if you live in palestinian authonomy, you are palestinian. unless you're a guest at some israeli family. "israel" is only a country, afaik. |
| 12:03 | <stew> | abraxas: i don't know |
| 12:03 | <abraxas> | stew, yes |
| 12:03 | <abraxas> | a porn dvd :-) |
| 12:04 | <stew> | sobersabre: please take it elsewhere |
| 12:04 | <sobersabre> | stew: ok. |
| 12:04 | <sobersabre> | no probz |
| 12:04 | <stew> | abraxas: do you get the messages when the dvd is not in the drive? |
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| 12:04 | <sobersabre> | anyways, is sr0 or eth2 what you want to solve ? |
| 12:04 | <abraxas> | stew, i didnt try,but u r right because before I didnt got the error |
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| 12:04 | <sobersabre> | is this an internal DVD ? |
| 12:04 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, the eth2 its solved...despite i cant connect to none router but its detected |
| 12:05 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, yes |
| 12:05 | <sobersabre> | have you connected it yourself ? |
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| 12:05 | <stew> | abraxas: well i'd guess that it was something having trouble automounting the dvd |
| 12:05 | <abraxas> | no...its a lapto |
| 12:05 | <abraxas> | laptop |
| 12:05 | <abraxas> | well listen,ill reboot without the dvd and ill tell u,its easier |
| 12:06 | <sobersabre> | is it possible this is a removable internal drive ? |
| 12:06 | <abraxas> | nop |
| 12:06 | <sobersabre> | e.g. IBM and DELL laptops have such thing. |
| 12:06 | <abraxas> | ill dont waste ur time...ill reboot and try |
| 12:06 | <abraxas> | yes,its ibm |
| 12:06 | <abraxas> | lenovo |
| 12:06 | <abraxas> | matshita |
| 12:06 | <stew> | abraxas: you could also try to eject and reinstert the dvd and see if the same errors show up in dmesg again |
| 12:06 | <abraxas> | ah,ok stew |
| 12:06 | <sobersabre> | well, make sure the drive is connected ( not the optical disk ). |
| 12:07 | <sobersabre> | which Lenovo model is this ? |
| 12:07 | <sobersabre> | thinkpad ? |
| 12:07 | <abraxas> | stew, yes,its continue |
| 12:07 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, lenovo 3000 c200 |
| 12:07 | <sobersabre> | look on the right hand to the DVD slot. |
| 12:08 | <sobersabre> | there should be a switch you can move left/right ( depends where you're looking from :) ) |
| 12:08 | <sobersabre> | maybe you've taken it out on travel accidentally. |
| 12:08 | <abraxas> | i need to open it? |
| 12:08 | <sobersabre> | when you move the switch a handle comes out. |
| 12:08 | <sobersabre> | you pull it, the drive gets out. |
| 12:09 | <sobersabre> | abraxas: to open WHAT ? |
| 12:09 | <abraxas> | ah yes |
| 12:09 | <abraxas> | u mean open the cdrom,no? |
| 12:09 | <sobersabre> | NO. |
| 12:09 | <sobersabre> | have you moved the switch ? |
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| 12:09 | <abraxas> | i dont find it...the only switch here is of the wireless and its not close to the dvd |
| 12:09 | <sobersabre> | do you have this switch ? |
| 12:10 | <sobersabre> | then maybe you don't have it. |
| 12:10 | <sobersabre> | how old is the laptop ? |
| 12:10 | <stew> | i don't see what this would have to do with a switch |
| 12:10 | <abraxas> | 4 months |
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| 12:10 | <stew> | the dvd drive is reading stuff off teh dvd |
| 12:10 | <abraxas> | I didnt get the error before |
| 12:10 | <sobersabre> | stew: |
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| 12:10 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, i need to open the cdrom to find the swithc>? |
| 12:10 | <stew> | abraxas: does the same thing happen with a different dvd/cd inserted into the drive? |
| 12:10 | <sobersabre> | abraxas: no. |
| 12:11 | <ranix> | lol wut |
| 12:11 | <abraxas> | stew, now I took the dvd out and it continues happening |
| 12:11 | <abraxas> | sobersabre, so no,I dont have the switch |
| 12:11 | <ranix> | hardware problem, it exists between the keyboard and chair |
| 12:11 | <sobersabre> | stew: sometimes my ejectable dvdwriter did similar errors. |
| 12:11 | <ranix> | nothing to see here, move along |
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| 12:11 | <sobersabre> | after you eject it, it stops. |
| 12:11 | <sobersabre> | probably some bad contact related. |
| 12:11 | <donfede> | packages.debian.org appears to be down... any word on what's up? |
| 12:11 | <abraxas> | maybe I need to restart? |
| 12:11 | <sobersabre> | stew: but it's an IBM T43 |
| 12:12 | <ranix> | rebooting always fixes hardware problems |
| 12:12 | <abraxas> | ranix, i mean cause I took the dvd out...maybe it needs to read the new changes...like our friend win$%#%^ |
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| 12:16 | <abraxas> | something else |
| 12:16 | <abraxas> | u know what means "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| 12:16 | <abraxas> | kbuildsycoca running.."? |
| 12:16 | <sobersabre> | stew: by your request: http://pastebin.ca/634760 |
| 12:16 | <abraxas> | soryr |
| 12:16 | <abraxas> | I tought it was only a line |
| 12:16 | <sobersabre> | stew: I simply have NO clue. |
| 12:17 | <sobersabre> | the most annoying is the fact that top doesn't get to display. |
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| 12:17 | <stew> | sobersabre: yeah, so that shows not much at all going on |
| 12:18 | <sobersabre> | stew: the thing is I can setup a cron job do display whatever you want. the feeling is like something in the IO or buffer cache lags |
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| 12:18 | <sobersabre> | and thus all the interactivity sux |
| 12:18 | <donfede> | can anyone get anything out of http://packages.debian.org/ ?!?! |
| 12:19 | <stew> | donfede: no, it is down |
| 12:19 | <kmf_58> | hi/ do linksys hardware zork on llinuxMMMMM =-[ |
| 12:19 | <kmf_58> | work |
| 12:19 | <donfede> | stew: I'm trying to get the source (from experimental) of jabberd2 ... is there another way I can get that without using packages.debian.org (or any idea when it may be up)? |
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| 12:20 | <vC]Rajohan> | how can i do this ./hlds_run -game cstrike -autoupdate +maxplayers 20 +map de_dust2 -port 27015 so it runs even when i quit the putty window? |
| 12:21 | <kmf_58> | oki later..... |
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| 12:21 | <stew> | donfede: download it directly from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/ |
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| 12:22 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there an easy way for me to change over from using icewm to the gnome-based desktop that these days seems to be the standard for Debian? |
| 12:22 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: use screen |
| 12:22 | <vC]Rajohan> | screen ./hlds_run -game cstrike -autoupdate +maxplayers 20 +map de_dust2 -port 27015 ? |
| 12:22 | <JasonS> | vC]Rajohan: man screen |
| 12:22 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: find a tutorian on screen |
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| 12:23 | <JasonS> | stew: a moment of silence if you will, i have 10 gallons of infected ESB in carboys at home :( |
| 12:23 | <simon444> | EmleyMoor, yes |
| 12:24 | <fxiny> | esb ? |
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| 12:24 | <simon444> | EmleyMoor, install gdm/kdm/etc |
| 12:24 | <stew> | JasonS: we had cashflow problems and my pump/thermostats are on hold |
| 12:24 | <donfede> | stew: thank you kindly, that's allowed me to continue :) (i'm trying to backport that package into etch) |
| 12:24 | <EmleyMoor> | simon444: Install gdm? Anything beyond that apart from removing personal references to icewm? |
| 12:25 | <sobersabre> | guys is there any usefull ms exchange replacement ? |
| 12:25 | <sobersabre> | preferrably no money. |
| 12:25 | <EmleyMoor> | I presumably need to default to gdm or remove xdm... |
| 12:25 | <donfede> | sobersabre: zimbra |
| 12:25 | <simon444> | EmleyMoor, set up gnome as default if you don't want to install gdm |
| 12:25 | <sobersabre> | ok. does it also connect with outlook, calendars etc. ? |
| 12:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Happy to install gdm |
| 12:25 | <simon444> | EmleyMoor, or just start gnome from CLI |
| 12:25 | <sobersabre> | donfede: |
| 12:25 | <sobersabre> | I meant you. |
| 12:26 | <donfede> | sobersabre: it should it's very featureful and nice. |
| 12:26 | <donfede> | sobersabre: there is a free version ... and for a rather low cost a fuller version |
| 12:26 | <sobersabre> | I'll read on it. |
| 12:26 | <sobersabre> | ok |
| 12:26 | <donfede> | sobersabre: it should be worth your time |
| 12:27 | <donfede> | sobersabre: i've not worked on that project directly, but we are working on deploying that at our facility , and i've spoken with other admins that had only glowing things to say of it (they went ahead and payed for licences ... even the price was pretty fair they said) |
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| 12:29 | <EmleyMoor> | I will see what happens next |
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| 12:31 | <Metalqga> | we hope you live to tell the tell |
| 12:31 | [~] | fxiny touches wood |
| 12:33 | <Metalqga> | :D |
| 12:33 | <Metalqga> | we say knock on wood |
| 12:34 | <faderhval> | evening again...i have a problem with samba i cant connect to min windows machine from linux i get an nt_status_bad_network_name i've been googling for hours with no luck to comming closer to the solution anyone have an idea? |
| 12:34 | <faderhval> | !paste |
| 12:34 | <dpkg> | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 12:34 | <vC]Rajohan> | where can i find config.inc.php ? |
| 12:34 | <vC]Rajohan> | to mysql |
| 12:34 | <simon444> | !bot abuse |
| 12:34 | <dpkg> | Leave me alone.. I feel abused and molested. |
| 12:35 | <simon444> | lol |
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| 12:35 | <Metalqga> | simon444 are you bored? |
| 12:35 | <Metalqga> | hey emleymoor you are back, how was it? |
| 12:35 | <EmleyMoor> | OK - I'm now in what I hoped to see, but have lost some of my "at login" stuff |
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| 12:35 | <simon444> | Metalqga, not that was in reference to faderhval's !paste |
| 12:36 | <Metalqga> | you are the abuser here |
| 12:36 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: for what application? |
| 12:36 | <Metalqga> | he wanted some info |
| 12:36 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew mysql |
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| 12:37 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: mysql doesn't have a config.inc.php, or anything to do with php |
| 12:37 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: what application are you trying to configure |
| 12:37 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm used to having gbuffy running and also entering my ssh passphrase when I start a session - what's the right way to arrange these in gnome? |
| 12:37 | <vC]Rajohan> | im getting #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) and its says that i should check config.inc.php |
| 12:37 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: what application is giving you that error? |
| 12:37 | <vC]Rajohan> | phpmyadmin |
| 12:38 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: then it probably is in /etc/phpmyadmin |
| 12:38 | <vC]Rajohan> | cant find it there |
| 12:39 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian |
| 12:39 | <vC]Rajohan> | cant open that file :S |
| 12:39 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: is there a README.Debian.gz instead? |
| 12:39 | <vC]Rajohan> | no |
| 12:40 | <EmleyMoor> | What is the equivalent of .xsession for gnome? |
| 12:40 | <stew> | !find phpmyadmin/config.inc.php stable |
| 12:40 | <vC]Rajohan> | there is no folder named phpmyadmin |
| 12:40 | <dpkg> | Debian Search of 'phpmyadmin/config.inc.php' (1): (/usr/share/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php, /usr/share/ucf/phpmyadmin/etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php) in web/phpmyadmin. |
| 12:40 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: then you didn't install phpmyadmin from the debian package |
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| 12:41 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: how did you install phpmyadmin? |
| 12:41 | <vC]Rajohan> | it was preinstalled |
| 12:41 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: then ask the system administrator |
| 12:41 | <vC]Rajohan> | have done they just say its a dedictedted server not a managed server |
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| 12:43 | <EmleyMoor> | How do I do what I used to do with .xsession now I'm using gnome2? |
| 12:43 | <simon444> | !tell Metalqga about bot abuse |
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| 12:44 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew is there anyway i can search in whole system to get all config.inc.php on the harddrive |
| 12:44 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: man locate ; man find |
| 12:44 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: i'd suggest using the debian packages for phpmyadmin as it is so frequently having security issues |
| 12:45 | <vC]Rajohan> | apt-get phpmyadmin*? |
| 12:45 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: you would have to first uninstall the version you already have installed |
| 12:46 | <faderhval> | vC]Rajohan: be carefull with that one of the phpmyadmin packages inc. apache and php install... |
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| 12:46 | <vC]Rajohan> | i dont find the one i have :S |
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| 12:49 | <vC]Rajohan> | there is something wierd here since i installed apache 2 and php 5 and the server uses apache and php4 |
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| 12:50 | <EmleyMoor> | Is it possible to run ssh-agent and ssh-add as part of a gnome session or is there a better way to manage ssh in gnome than that? |
| 12:50 | <simon444> | vC]Rajohan, restart the servers |
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| 12:50 | [~] | EmleyMoor has gbuffy working :-) |
| 12:51 | <stew> | EmleyMoor: ssh-agent should be run automatically from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent ; you should be able to run ssh-add at any time during your x session and have other things pick it up |
| 12:52 | <vC]Rajohan> | simon444 dident help |
| 12:52 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: which do you want to be running? apache or apache2? or both on different ips/ports? |
| 12:52 | <vC]Rajohan> | apache2 |
| 12:52 | <simon444> | vC]Rajohan, apt-get remove apache |
| 12:52 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: aptitude remove apache; then edit /etc/default/apache2 and make sure its not disabled in that file, then restart apache2 with /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 12:52 | <simon444> | vC]Rajohan, /etc/init.d/apache stop |
| 12:53 | <simon444> | vC]Rajohan, /etc/init.d/httpd start |
| 12:53 | <stew> | simon444: what is /etc/init.d/httpd ? |
| 12:53 | <simon444> | stew, apache2 |
| 12:53 | <stew> | simon444: not in debian |
| 12:53 | <simon444> | yes in debian |
| 12:53 | <simon444> | let me check |
| 12:54 | <vC]Rajohan> | * Not starting apache2 - edit /etc/default/apache2 and change NO_START to be 0. |
| 12:54 | <vC]Rajohan> | its apache2 btw |
| 12:54 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: right, thats why i was telling you to edit /etc/default/apache2 above |
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| 12:54 | <simon444> | okay you win |
| 12:55 | <malocite> | has anyone here been able to install the ati drivers? |
| 12:55 | <simon444> | use to managing to many system where it is httpd |
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| 12:55 | <N`Kr1pt> | Hi, is there a tool wich can read all files in a specific directory and search for a string? |
| 12:55 | <vC]Rajohan> | http://www.request-gaming.com/apache2-default/ |
| 12:55 | <vC]Rajohan> | seams like it works |
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| 12:55 | <vC]Rajohan> | but, i have a index file in www why isent that showing? |
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| 12:56 | <stew> | N`Kr1pt: fgrep -r string /path/to/directory |
| 12:56 | <N`Kr1pt> | thx stew |
| 12:56 | <stew> | N`Kr1pt: that will search recursively, if you don't want recursive, then "fgrep string /path/to/directory/*" |
| 12:57 | <EmleyMoor> | I used to manage my ssh-agent/key in X by having eval `ssh-agent` and ssh-add in .xsession. I have changed over to the GNOME2 desktop and am wondering how to do similar there |
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| 12:57 | <N`Kr1pt> | yep I saw it in man |
| 12:57 | <N`Kr1pt> | but recursively is what I eed |
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| 12:57 | <N`Kr1pt> | s/eed/need |
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| 12:58 | <vC]Rajohan> | why does it go to this folder: /apache2-default/? |
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| 12:59 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: becuase /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default redirects it there |
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| 13:00 | <vC]Rajohan> | so should i delete that file? |
| 13:01 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: either edit it to suit your needs. or create your own in /etc/apache2/sites-available ; then "a2dissite default ; a2ensite yoursite" in order to disable the default and enable yours |
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| 13:01 | <vC]Rajohan> | i just commented out that line |
| 13:01 | <vC]Rajohan> | but, mysql is still not avilable |
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| 13:02 | <vC]Rajohan> | can i do apt-get uninstall mysql and apt-get unistall phpadmin to? |
| 13:02 | <vC]Rajohan> | phpmyadmin9* |
| 13:02 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: you cant uninstall phpmyadmin with apt-get becuase it wasn't installed from a debian package |
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| 13:03 | <vC]Rajohan> | . /usr/bin/mysqladmin <-- seams like thats the directory |
| 13:03 | <vC]Rajohan> | but that foulder dose not exist :S |
| 13:03 | <vC]Rajohan> | folder |
| 13:04 | <vC]Rajohan> | ahh its a file |
| 13:04 | <vC]Rajohan> | i found the file mysqladmin but, how can i unistall so i can reinstall it? |
| 13:04 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: mysqladmin is a command line tool for doing things like creating and dropping databases, don't delete that |
| 13:05 | <vC]Rajohan> | ok |
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| 13:05 | <vC]Rajohan> | so how can i unistall then :S |
| 13:06 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: how was it installed? |
| 13:06 | <vC]Rajohan> | i dont know for me it seams like its not now |
| 13:06 | <vC]Rajohan> | i cant find anything phpmyadmin |
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| 13:07 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: do you get an error about config.inc.php when you go to /phpmyadmin in the browser still? |
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| 13:07 | <raymond> | N`Kr1pt: find -type f -exec grep -l "search string" {} \; |
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| 13:07 | <vC]Rajohan> | The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server. |
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| 13:07 | <malocite> | everytime I try to install the ati drivers my xwindows wont restart, n e one have problems with these? |
| 13:08 | <vC]Rajohan> | thats what im getting now stew |
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| 13:08 | <vC]Rajohan> | but if i go here: http://www.request-gaming.com:8080/MySQL/index.php <-- im getting that error |
| 13:08 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way of managing "ask for ssh passphrase once per session" in the GNOME2 desktop? |
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| 13:09 | <EmleyMoor> | (at most once per session, if at all, would do) |
| 13:09 | <stew> | EmleyMoor: run "ssh-add" |
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| 13:09 | <pipegeek> | Hmm. So, I'm running etch, and I'm trying to build the pidgin package from sid. Unfortunately, bizarrely, the build succeeds, but debuild fails at dh_install because it can't find purple-remote (which build successfully, but seems not to have been copied into the package tree for some reason). No build errors, everything worked just fine up to that point, and debs for pidgin-data and pidgin-dev are successfully produced. the command I'm running i |
| 13:09 | <EmleyMoor> | stew: I am on about the right way to run ssh-agent/ssh-add under this desktop |
| 13:09 | <pipegeek> | s debuild -d -uc -us. What Am I missing? |
| 13:10 | <Ming_> | hey, how do you see who is logged into a server? |
| 13:10 | <Ming_> | like list all the active users? |
| 13:10 | <stew> | EmleyMoor: ssh-agent should be run for you in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xfree86-common_ssh-agent ; you can run ssh-add from .xsession if you want |
| 13:11 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew what will happend if i reinstall mysql without deleting it? |
| 13:11 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: probably nothing |
| 13:11 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: why do you want to reinstall mysql? |
| 13:11 | <malocite> | does ubuntu use x.org or xfree86? |
| 13:11 | <vC]Rajohan> | i meant phpmyadmin |
| 13:11 | <stew> | malocite: ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 13:11 | <vC]Rajohan> | MySQL support Unavailable |
| 13:11 | <EmleyMoor> | stew: GNOME2 desktop does not seem to support .xsession |
| 13:11 | <malocite> | i'm in the wrong room |
| 13:11 | <malocite> | oops |
| 13:12 | <stew> | EmleyMoor: oh, i don't know then |
| 13:12 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: install php5-mysql |
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| 13:12 | <Metalqga> | xorg |
| 13:13 | <EmleyMoor> | I think I may know now :-) |
| 13:13 | <vC]Rajohan> | stew done. what now? |
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| 13:13 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: that should have fixed the "MySQL support Unavailable" error |
| 13:13 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: (you might have to restart apache2) |
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| 13:14 | <vC]Rajohan> | yes it fixed that error |
| 13:14 | <Metalqga> | can we remove the word ubuntu from the topic? |
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| 13:14 | <stew> | Metalqga: why? |
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| 13:15 | <vC]Rajohan> | now i just need phpmyadmin to work |
| 13:15 | <Metalqga> | It's better to say what we are than what we aren't |
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| 13:15 | <EmleyMoor> | :-) |
| 13:16 | <EmleyMoor> | Because ssh-agent is already running, it's a simple matter of adding ssh-add to my list of startup programs :-) |
| 13:16 | <vC]Rajohan> | so stew if i just do apt-get install phpmyadmin now will that make anything now work? |
| 13:16 | <vC]Rajohan> | the old one seams to not use /phpmyadmin/ as url |
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| 13:16 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: i don't know, install it and read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian |
| 13:16 | <stew> | vC]Rajohan: i recommend removing the old one first if it is still installed |
| 13:17 | <vC]Rajohan> | i cant find it so i gonna just install |
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| 13:19 | <MicZe> | Hello |
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| 13:20 | <MicZe> | Is it possible to get help with beginner linux questions in here? |
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| 13:20 | <veronicaa> | hola |
| 13:21 | <MicZe> | ^^ |
| 13:21 | <EmleyMoor> | Is it possible for two users to have locked desktops on the same X display? |
| 13:21 | <simon444> | my computer is going very slow |
| 13:21 | <simon444> | another memory leak from firefox by browsing too many encyclopedia pages |
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| 13:22 | <ranix> | simon444: iceweasel |
| 13:22 | <simon444> | !iceweasel |
| 13:22 | <dpkg> | i heard iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is currently different from the browser with the same name from GNU (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla) although it is possible that the two projects will join forces in the future. To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>. |
| 13:22 | <dli> | simon444, try: free -m; top |
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| 13:22 | <EmleyMoor> | Don't fire foxes, ice weasels instead <g> |
| 13:22 | <MicZe> | If i am not to bothersome i would like to know how i get the console in colors as i have seen some people have (I only have console not any greafical userinterface) |
| 13:22 | <veronicaa> | como te llama |
| 13:22 | <MicZe> | grafical |
| 13:22 | <ranix> | !de |
| 13:22 | <dpkg> | de is probably deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode) |
| 13:22 | <simon444> | dli, I am not currently on a debian box |
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| 13:22 | <Maulkin> | !es |
| 13:22 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:23 | [~] | ranix was kidding |
| 13:23 | <MicZe> | ? |
| 13:23 | <simon444> | !why iceweasel |
| 13:23 | <dpkg> | Why iceweasel? Debian cannot comply with the conditions necessary to distribute firefox and call it firefox, so we have changed the name to iceweasel. See http://bugs.debian.org/354622 for more information. |
| 13:23 | <Maulkin> | simon444: for information for yourself, please /msg the bot |
| 13:23 | |-| | mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 13:23 | |-| | mode/#debian [+q *!*@210-84-40-154.dyn.iinet.net.au] by stew |
| 13:23 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 13:23 | <veronicaa> | eres feo |
| 13:24 | <Maulkin> | veronicaa: Por favor usen #debian-es |
| 13:24 | <MicZe> | Is there any humans in here? |
| 13:24 | <ranix> | I was born human. Sadly, the internet has turned me into a monster |
| 13:24 | <MicZe> | i see |
| 13:24 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: no. We're all bots. |
| 13:25 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: What sort of colours? |
| 13:25 | <veronicaa> | guarro |
| 13:25 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: give me an example :) |
| 13:25 | <stew> | MicZe: you can put alias ls="ls --colors=auto" in your .bashrc |
| 13:25 | |-| | mode/#debian [+o Maulkin] by ChanServ |
| 13:25 | |-| | mode/#debian [+q *!*@83.230.234.56] by Maulkin |
| 13:25 | <MicZe> | Well for example when listong folders and files they have different colors |
| 13:25 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o Maulkin] by Maulkin |
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| 13:25 | <MicZe> | listing |
| 13:25 | <Maulkin> | veronicaa: -> #debian-es |
| 13:26 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: you can achieve that with stew's advice above |
| 13:26 | <stew> | MicZe: err, that should be --color=auto not --colors=auto |
| 13:26 | <MicZe> | Hehe i will try. but i dont even know where that file is located |
| 13:26 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: In your home directory :) |
| 13:27 | <MicZe> | how do i login to mu useraccount i am currently in root |
| 13:27 | <MicZe> | my |
| 13:27 | <MicZe> | nm |
| 13:27 | <MicZe> | i just wrote login and that was enogh |
| 13:28 | <MicZe> | What is the text editor in linux called |
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| 13:28 | <MicZe> | vi? or is there something better? |
| 13:28 | <Metalqga> | vi |
| 13:28 | <berat> | hey |
| 13:28 | <Metalqga> | vim |
| 13:29 | <berat> | dpkg --purge *.deb is it right command ? |
| 13:29 | <dpkg> | berat: I think you lost me on that one |
| 13:29 | <Maulkin> | there's a few... |
| 13:29 | <EmleyMoor> | nvi, vim, elvis... |
| 13:29 | <Maulkin> | nano, emacs, ed... |
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| 13:29 | <EmleyMoor> | There's other kinds of editor too |
| 13:29 | <fxiny> | hmmm : emacs jed |
| 13:29 | <pipegeek> | Hmm. So, I'm running etch, and I'm trying to build the pidgin package from sid. Unfortunately, bizarrely, the build succeeds, but debuild fails at dh_install because it can't find purple-remote (which build successfully, but seems not to have been copied into the package tree for some reason). No build errors, everything worked just fine up to that point, and debs for pidgin-data and pidgin-dev are successfully produced. the command I'm running i |
| 13:29 | <pipegeek> | s debuild -d -uc -us. What Am I missing? |
| 13:29 | <fxiny> | qemacs |
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| 13:29 | <Maulkin> | !start an editor war |
| 13:29 | <dpkg> | xemacs doesn't deserve to be in debian |
| 13:29 | <MicZe> | oh many ^^ |
| 13:29 | <MicZe> | well emacs i heard about on an old computer book |
| 13:29 | <MicZe> | i guess i test that |
| 13:30 | <Metalqga> | actually vi is enough for me |
| 13:30 | <fxiny> | who gave dpkg crack ? |
| 13:30 | <blade> | iv mounted an ntfs partition using sudo, but cant access it as a normal user |
| 13:30 | <blade> | please help... |
| 13:30 | <Metalqga> | ntfs :( (fingers down) |
| 13:30 | <MicZe> | Vim - vi Improved Help poor children in Uganda! .. ok suggestion noted |
| 13:30 | <blade> | iv mounted it ro |
| 13:30 | <berat> | akdpkg --purge is it true usage |
| 13:30 | <blade> | shud work |
| 13:31 | <blade> | and it works in ubuntu |
| 13:31 | <blade> | it says Permission Denied |
| 13:31 | <MicZe> | help |
| 13:31 | <fxiny> | but qemacs loads fast anything |
| 13:31 | <MicZe> | oops |
| 13:31 | <EmleyMoor> | blade: What permissions are on the mount point? |
| 13:31 | <berat> | someone answer me !!! |
| 13:31 | <blade> | 777 |
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| 13:32 | <Maulkin> | blade: please be patient |
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| 13:32 | <fxiny> | i have to admit emacs is a bit fat ... |
| 13:32 | <blade> | k, thanks |
| 13:32 | <berat> | dpkg --pure tru usage? |
| 13:32 | <stew> | blade: he meant berat |
| 13:32 | <blade> | k.. |
| 13:32 | <MicZe> | bah how do i exit this vi |
| 13:33 | <stew> | berat: what are you trying to do? |
| 13:33 | <EmleyMoor> | MicZe: Saving changes or not? |
| 13:33 | <MicZe> | just kill it |
| 13:33 | <fxiny> | nahhh |
| 13:33 | <berat> | remove package that i configure manually |
| 13:33 | <EmleyMoor> | <ESC>:q! |
| 13:33 | <stew> | berat: aptitude purge packagename |
| 13:33 | <berat> | i am trying to use dpkg --puge |
| 13:33 | <stew> | berat: you could use "dpkg --purge packagename" |
| 13:34 | <EmleyMoor> | berat: If you spell purge correctly it ought to work |
| 13:34 | <MicZe> | bah i rebooted the system :) |
| 13:34 | <stew> | berat: note that "dpkg --purge *.deb" would not be correct, becuase you need the packagename not the name of the file containing the package |
| 13:34 | <Maulkin> | berat: man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like uid=<user>,gid=<group> into your fstab's mount option field |
| 13:34 | <berat> | ok |
| 13:35 | <berat> | i understand that now |
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| 13:35 | <berat> | dpkg purge * not *.deb |
| 13:35 | <stew> | berat: no |
| 13:35 | <EmleyMoor> | Maulkin meant blade, I think |
| 13:35 | <berat> | dpkg --purge |
| 13:35 | <stew> | berat: what is the name of the package you are trying to purge? |
| 13:35 | <Maulkin> | bah |
| 13:35 | <MicZe> | can i have multiple consoles when i am in console mode and hop between them |
| 13:35 | <stew> | berat: you don't want * |
| 13:35 | <Maulkin> | blade: man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like uid=<user>,gid=<group> into your fstab's mount option field |
| 13:35 | <berat> | Limewire.deb |
| 13:36 | <Maulkin> | thanks EmleyMoor |
| 13:36 | <stew> | berat: what does "dpkg -l Limewire.deb" return? |
| 13:36 | <blade> | ok, lemme look... |
| 13:36 | <EmleyMoor> | MicZe: Yes - six are normally provided... use Alt-Fn, where n is a number from 1 to 6 |
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| 13:36 | <berat> | no matching package found |
| 13:36 | <knoppix__> | test |
| 13:36 | <stew> | berat: then Limewire.deb is not the name of the package |
| 13:36 | <MicZe> | Yeah i had 6 of them |
| 13:36 | <berat> | but i installed Limewire with dpkg -i Limewire.deb |
| 13:37 | <Maulkin> | knoppix__: please go to #test for testing |
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| 13:37 | <MicZe> | dor |
| 13:37 | <MicZe> | dir |
| 13:37 | <stew> | berat: its probably limewire ; you might find the packagename with "dpkg -l | grep imewire" |
| 13:37 | <Guest74> | thanks and sorry for interruption |
| 13:37 | <MicZe> | bah wrong keyboard |
| 13:37 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: heh |
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| 13:38 | <MicZe> | I use windows on this and a laptop with linux |
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| 13:38 | <MicZe> | *i TRY to have linux on my laptop atleast |
| 13:38 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: sounds like you did it the hard way round :) |
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| 13:38 | [~] | EmleyMoor is drifting more and more towards Linux on every real machine... |
| 13:38 | <MicZe> | My home directory is home/username or just home |
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| 13:39 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: /home/username/ |
| 13:39 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: or ~/ as a shortcut |
| 13:39 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: to change to it, just type "cd" |
| 13:39 | <MicZe> | ok |
| 13:39 | <MicZe> | than you |
| 13:39 | <EmleyMoor> | I have one laptop with both Linux and Windows and one server with FreeBSD, but everything else of mine is Linux |
| 13:39 | <MicZe> | thank |
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| 13:39 | [~] | Maulkin has Debian on everything :P |
| 13:39 | <MicZe> | ^^ |
| 13:39 | [~] | MicZe test |
| 13:39 | <MicZe> | ooh |
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| 13:40 | <EmleyMoor> | I have virtual machines running OpenBSD and NetBSD, and also testing and unstable Debian, as well as one real testing Debian and two real stable Debian plus the laptop which has stable on it |
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| 13:41 | <Maulkin> | Ahh, I'm a machocist then :) Most of my stuff is running sid. Except my colo, with is etch with sarge/etch/lenny/sid chroots on for autobuilding. |
| 13:41 | <Maulkin> | s/my colo/one of my colos |
| 13:42 | <stew> | i'm still petitioning to get some colo'd servers moved from sarge->etch |
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| 13:42 | <MicZe> | ah this VI is really hard |
| 13:42 | <Maulkin> | stew: ouch. Still, they have a year... :P |
| 13:42 | <EmleyMoor> | When people ask if I'm running RedHat I say no, I'm running OldHat <g> |
| 13:42 | <ranix> | I run linux on two laptops, a file server, an Exim mailserver, a webserver, a DICOM server, and my home media center. I run NetBSD on my handheld PC |
| 13:43 | <EmleyMoor> | MicZe: vi does take some getting used to |
| 13:43 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: run vimtutor :) |
| 13:43 | <suiside> | one gentoo, one slackware, a laptop with debian, and a test box with various instalations, currently a gentoo, before that a netbsd |
| 13:43 | <Eshake> | hi there is any particular difference between postfix and exim4.. exim4 is default installed in debian but could be used for large environment (i.e. isp hosting) |
| 13:43 | <stew> | Maulkin: yeah, i shouldn't have let them know they had a year, i should have lied and told them 3 months or something :) |
| 13:43 | <MicZe> | vimtutor :) |
| 13:43 | <MicZe> | will do |
| 13:43 | <Maulkin> | stew: lol. |
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| 13:43 | <EmleyMoor> | My main desktop machine is also my mail and webmail server and print server |
| 13:43 | <ranix> | Eshake: I use Exim4 because I decided it was best for my size, my company, and my requirements |
| 13:43 | <Maulkin> | Eshake: it can, I use Exim for that |
| 13:44 | <Maulkin> | Eshake: it's personal preference really. Google for "Exim vs Postfix" |
| 13:44 | <ranix> | Eshake: It is a decision you should make with the assistance of Google and at least three hours worth of thought if you're going to do any sizable implementation of it |
| 13:44 | <streuner> | !start a MTA war |
| 13:44 | <dpkg> | smail systems are liable to be r00ted |
| 13:44 | <ranix> | hey we brilliantly sidestepped an MTA war, streuner |
| 13:45 | <streuner> | hm, maybe i missed that :-) |
| 13:45 | <Eshake> | Maulkin ranix: and for pop3 imap? |
| 13:45 | <MicZe> | so to install vintutor i do apt-get vimtutor -something |
| 13:45 | <ranix> | apt-get install vimtutor |
| 13:45 | <MicZe> | ah rigth :) |
| 13:45 | <Maulkin> | hrm. That should really be "start an MTA war |
| 13:45 | <Maulkin> | " |
| 13:46 | <ranix> | start an mail transfer agent war |
| 13:46 | <ranix> | and then, become an hero |
| 13:46 | <Maulkin> | ranix: and that's 'a' :) |
| 13:46 | <ranix> | actually an hero is technically correct |
| 13:46 | <ranix> | which is part of the fun |
| 13:46 | <Maulkin> | no, it's not |
| 13:46 | <Eshake> | how the debian defualt one was coiched? |
| 13:46 | <ranix> | yes, it is |
| 13:46 | <Maulkin> | the 'h' is pronounced, so it's not |
| 13:46 | <sobersabre> | no it isn't |
| 13:47 | [~] | sobersabre remembers the famous sketch.. |
| 13:47 | <ranix> | ok let me rephrase |
| 13:47 | <ranix> | It is not technically incorrect |
| 13:47 | <MicZe> | hehe it could not find vimtutor |
| 13:47 | <Maulkin> | eg: an honest effort is ok, as is a historic event |
| 13:47 | <ranix> | An historic event is also acceptable |
| 13:47 | <fxiny> | vimtutor ? is it an emacs dependecy ? |
| 13:47 | <ranix> | if not more acceptable than A historic event |
| 13:48 | <Maulkin> | MicZe: it's in "vim" |
| 13:48 | <Maulkin> | ranix: it's certainly not more acceptable. |
| 13:48 | <MicZe> | ^^ |
| 13:48 | <Maulkin> | ranix: though we shoudl probably take this to #moocows :) |
| 13:48 | <MicZe> | now things happen |
| 13:48 | <ranix> | Maulkin: you are incorrect if you think an historic event is less correct than a historic event |
| 13:49 | <Maulkin> | ranix: #moocows, and I'll be happy to argue the point :) |
| 13:49 | <ranix> | It's not worth arguing because I'm incontrovertibly correct |
| 13:49 | <MicZe> | there got vimtutor going :) |
| 13:49 | <Maulkin> | ahh, that argument. Of course you are ranix. |
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| 13:50 | <ranix> | now go away, or I shall taunt you some more |
| 13:50 | <stouset> | What's a fast, easy way to take two files, and remove any lines in the first from the second? |
| 13:50 | <stouset> | grep -v -f is sloooooow. |
| 13:51 | <stouset> | Both files are sorted, if that helps in any way. |
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| 13:52 | <blade> | Maulkin: thanks a lot, setting the uid and gid worked perfectly |
| 13:52 | <Maulkin> | blade: no problems |
| 13:53 | <sobersabre> | bye bye all |
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| 13:54 | <eurisko> | hi everyone |
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| 13:55 | <MicZe> | =^_^= |
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| 13:56 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way to tell/set the automatic lock timeout in GNOME2? |
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| 13:57 | <berat> | hey |
| 13:57 | <berat> | kernel says warning : not loading blacklisted module i9** |
| 13:57 | <berat> | what does that mean |
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| 13:58 | <EmleyMoor> | Found it |
| 13:58 | <berat> | what EmleyMoor |
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| 13:58 | <EmleyMoor> | I am getting used to a new desktop environment (relatively new to me, that is) |
| 13:59 | <EmleyMoor> | I was looking for adjustment for the screensaver |
| 13:59 | <EmleyMoor> | berat: A blacklisted module is one set not to be loaded for some reason, I guess. Not sure how this is done or what you can do about it |
| 14:00 | <stew> | berat: the kernel detected some hardware and found a module to supported, but that module has been blacklisted (probably in /etc/modprobe.d), what exactly was the module name? i810_audio perhaps? |
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| 14:01 | <berat> | just a second |
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| 14:02 | <berat> | i8**-audio |
| 14:02 | <berat> | i8**_audio |
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| 14:04 | <stew> | berat: right, i810_audio is the older OSS sound driver, you have setup alsa (which is recommended) and are using the snd-intel8x0 driver instead, so alsa blacklisted the older i810_audio driver to prevent it from loading |
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| 14:04 | <berat> | pronanly i used snd but i check it out |
| 14:04 | <berat> | as soon as possible |
| 14:05 | <EmleyMoor> | alsa is preferable to oss, and if you do need to use an oss-only app, there is emulation of oss available in alsa :-) |
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| 14:05 | <berat> | nıo i dont need |
| 14:05 | <berat> | thanks |
| 14:05 | <berat> | :D |
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| 14:07 | <berat> | one more point some games gives error matching GLX |
| 14:07 | <berat> | what does that mean |
| 14:07 | <Ming_> | hi guys |
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| 14:07 | <Ming_> | quick noobie question |
| 14:07 | <Ming_> | whats root's home directory? |
| 14:08 | <ketone> | its /root |
| 14:08 | <ketone> | ;] |
| 14:08 | <Ming_> | rofl |
| 14:08 | <Ming_> | lo |
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| 14:08 | <ketone> | hi :x |
| 14:08 | <berat> | muhahhahaha |
| 14:08 | <berat> | lol |
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| 14:09 | <berat> | qğoekğqoekr |
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| 14:09 | <MicZe> | :D |
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| 14:10 | <ranix> | next time cd ~ and do a pwd |
| 14:11 | <MicZe> | how do i make a directory? |
| 14:11 | <ranix> | mkdir |
| 14:11 | <MicZe> | thank you |
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| 14:34 | <MicZe> | hehe now i know the basics of vim |
| 14:34 | <MicZe> | useful :) |
| 14:35 | <tarzeau> | MicZe: not if you don't have any sort of vim installed :) |
| 14:35 | <tarzeau> | MicZe: believe it or not, such systems exist |
| 14:35 | <MicZe> | well i learned how to do that too |
| 14:35 | <MicZe> | :) |
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| 14:40 | <Ein> | has anyone ever tried to setup a debian environment under MacOSX? |
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| 14:42 | <N`Kr1pt> | what is in your opinion the best graphical mp3 tag editor? |
| 14:42 | <tarzeau> | Ein: like using dpkg/apt-get on mac os x? |
| 14:42 | <N`Kr1pt> | I just installed gnump3d, it's great! |
| 14:42 | <tarzeau> | Ein: and building the packages the debian way instead the fink messy way? |
| 14:43 | <Ein> | tarzeau: no, just install it onto a directory |
| 14:43 | <tarzeau> | Ein: well there's fink |
| 14:43 | <Ein> | meh |
| 14:43 | <tarzeau> | Ein: they make deb packages and they have dpkg and apt-get |
| 14:43 | <tarzeau> | it's just a mess how they don't use debian/rules |
| 14:43 | <Ein> | i am using a combination of fink and macports now |
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| 14:44 | <Ein> | but it would be nice to have a real debian available in something other than an emulator |
| 14:44 | <tarzeau> | Ein: ack |
| 14:44 | <tarzeau> | Ein: i guess the problem is building free software on mac os x, and having x software just work |
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| 14:45 | <Ein> | the other reason i thought of it is because i need to install debian onto an external driver because the computer it is going into does not havea CD or Floppy |
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| 14:59 | <eurisko> | arhh i have gcc instaled... but i usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found |
| 14:59 | <eurisko> | get this message |
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| 15:02 | <eurisko> | i already tried make a link to gcc, from gcc-4 |
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| 15:02 | <eurisko> | but it didn't work also |
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| 15:03 | <stationearth> | I am using debian unstable. Yesterday for some reason kdebase package got uninstalled when I ran apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:03 | <stationearth> | And on manually trying to install it, it shows unsatisfied dependencies |
| 15:04 | <stationearth> | But the online status of packages doesn't show any problems reported |
| 15:04 | <stationearth> | Could somebody help me find what the problem is? |
| 15:05 | <stationearth> | Would really appreciate help as I am not too familiar with debian package management tools |
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| 15:05 | <eurisko> | do apt-get update follow by a apt-get upgrade |
| 15:06 | <eurisko> | to see if it fix's |
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| 15:06 | <MicZe> | how do i enable color support in my .bashrc file? |
| 15:06 | <stationearth> | eurisko: it installed a few packages but not kdebase |
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| 15:08 | <stationearth> | On further trying to install kdebase manually I still get the same depends but not going to be installed message |
| 15:09 | <rik> | what is the exact dependency message you get? |
| 15:09 | <stationearth> | kdebase: Depends: kdebase-kio-plugins (>= 4:3.5.7-2) but it is not going to be installedDepends: konqueror (>= 4:3.5.7-2) but it is not going to be installed |
| 15:10 | <rik> | what is the output of 'dpkg -l |grep kdebase-kio-plugin' |
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| 15:10 | <stationearth> | rc kdebase-kio-plugins 4:3.5.7-2 core I/O slaves for KDE |
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| 15:11 | <eurisko> | ahh can someone help me with my gcc issue? |
| 15:11 | <eurisko> | i want to compile a new kernel, and i can't :( |
| 15:11 | <thomasbl> | what error comes? |
| 15:11 | <stew> | stationearth: what version of deiban are you running? |
| 15:11 | <eurisko> | make menuconfig |
| 15:11 | <eurisko> | /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found |
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| 15:11 | <stationearth> | stew: debian unstable |
| 15:11 | <MoDaX> | stationearth: kdebase is broken in unstable. wait a few days |
| 15:12 | <thomasbl> | eurisko: apt-get install gcc |
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| 15:12 | <ranix> | lol |
| 15:12 | <stew> | stationearth: what happens when you run "aptitude install kdebase-kio-plugins" |
| 15:12 | <eurisko> | thomas it's installed |
| 15:12 | <MoDaX> | long double transition |
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| 15:12 | <thomasbl> | eurisko: and which version? |
| 15:12 | <eurisko> | 4.2 |
| 15:12 | <stew> | eurisko: aptitude install build-essential |
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| 15:12 | <thomasbl> | eurisko: hrhr. i think i know your problem |
| 15:12 | <stationearth> | MoDaX: ahh.. thats what I was wondering. Just that the packages.debian.org didn't report anything broken and I couldn't find any other reports online either |
| 15:13 | <eurisko> | i found out |
| 15:13 | <eurisko> | hum... i didn't lol |
| 15:13 | <MoDaX> | stationearth: packages.d.o is lagging behind actually |
| 15:13 | <MoDaX> | a bit |
| 15:13 | <stationearth> | stew: I don't have aptitude installed |
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| 15:13 | <thomasbl> | eurisko: can you run gcc --version? or did there come an error, too? |
| 15:13 | <rik> | stationearth: can you post the output of 'dpkg -l kdelibs4c2a' |
| 15:13 | <stationearth> | MoDaX: i c. Is there a way to revert to previous version |
| 15:14 | <stew> | stationearth: apatitude is recommended since it is better at handling dependency resolution, but anyway, what happens when you run "apt-get install kdebase-kio-plugins" |
| 15:14 | <eurisko> | it run |
| 15:14 | <eurisko> | but now after i made the installation of build-essential |
| 15:14 | <eurisko> | i have other different erros |
| 15:14 | <thomasbl> | hum ... what errors? |
| 15:14 | <eurisko> | like errors in the code |
| 15:15 | <MoDaX> | stationearth: you can force kdebase actually. it won't do you any harm, but you want be able to use apt until kdebase is updated |
| 15:15 | <eurisko> | hum... i guess ncurses missing |
| 15:15 | <eurisko> | a second |
| 15:15 | <stationearth> | rik: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)||/ Name Version Description+++-==============================-==============================-============================================================================ii kdelibs4c2a 4:3 |
| 15:15 | <stationearth> | ries and binaries for all KDE applications |
| 15:15 | <MoDaX> | stationearth: I mean force kdebase-kio-plugins |
| 15:15 | <rik> | what version of kdelibs4c2a is installed? |
| 15:15 | <thomasbl> | eurisko: well, for ncurses simple run apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 15:15 | <eurisko> | solved :) |
| 15:15 | <rik> | 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-2 ? |
| 15:15 | <stationearth> | stew: when I try to install kdebase-kio-plugins it refers to a dependency on libopenexr2c2a |
| 15:15 | <eurisko> | thanks thomasbl :) |
| 15:15 | <thomasbl> | np ;) |
| 15:16 | <faderhval> | evening... |
| 15:16 | <stew> | stationearth: then try to install libopenexr2c2a ; keep going until you find the root cause |
| 15:16 | <stationearth> | MoDaX: I'll try that. Mostly I would like to get kmail back. Can live without the other stuff |
| 15:16 | <stationearth> | stew: when I try to do that it gives me a long list of packages it is going to uninstall. Which I don't want |
| 15:17 | <stationearth> | rik: 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-3 |
| 15:17 | <faderhval> | im trying to install pidgin and im missing something called GNU gettext i tried gettex-ruby1.8 but its not working am i installing the wrong package? |
| 15:17 | <MoDaX> | stationearth: you're on i386 right? transition does not affect arch, but the package (libopenexr2c2a) was renamed anyway for the name to match on all arches |
| 15:17 | <MoDaX> | does not affect this arch* |
| 15:17 | <stew> | stationearth: this is why you might consider using aptitude, or perhaps you should be running testing instead of unstable |
| 15:17 | <stationearth> | MoDaX: right. |
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| 15:18 | <rik> | can you add the following line to your sources.list: deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool kdelibs |
| 15:18 | <stationearth> | stew: point noted. Guess I'll downgrade to testing at next available opportunity |
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| 15:18 | <rik> | and then install the previous version of kdelibs4c2a? apt-get update ; apt-get install kdelibs4c2a=4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-2 |
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| 15:19 | <oldude67> | is dsl a good version of linux? |
| 15:19 | <stew> | oldude67: try ##linux on irc.freenode.net |
| 15:19 | <MoDaX> | oldude67: this is #debian we are kind of subjective :) |
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| 15:20 | <oldude67> | ok so??? |
| 15:20 | <oldude67> | thanks anyways |
| 15:20 | <stationearth> | rik: trying |
| 15:20 | <thomasbl> | hi stew |
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| 15:20 | <stew> | hi |
| 15:20 | <stationearth> | rik: done. Now I am trying to install kdebase |
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| 15:21 | <rik> | apt-get install kdebase=4:3.5.7-2 |
| 15:21 | <MoDaX> | kdebase-kio-plugins=4:3.5.7-2 |
| 15:21 | <stationearth> | rik: done |
| 15:22 | <rik> | this should give you a basic kde again. you can install kmail using |
| 15:22 | <stationearth> | rik: konqueror is back |
| 15:22 | <eurisko> | another complicated situation, i am using 2.6.22 on debian unstable, and i am trying since yesterday to get some ACPI support, with the module asus_acpi i get a message that i am on a supported model, but the backlight keys and others don't work, but using a Kubuntu live cd, it works partially with a older driver of acpi_asus, and other module called backlight, my problem is that i can't load that module backlight because it dosen't exist in this kernel |
| 15:22 | <eurisko> | version, my ACPI version is ATK0100 , "asus-laptop: T13FV", thanks :) |
| 15:22 | <stationearth> | rik: so is kmail |
| 15:22 | <rik> | apt-get install kmail=4:3.5.7-2 |
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| 15:22 | <rik> | you can remove the line from your sources.list now. and don't update kdelibs untill it's fixed :) |
| 15:23 | <stationearth> | rik: got kmail. Luckily it didn't lost the settings. *whew* Thanks |
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| 15:23 | <stew> | eurisko: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:23 | <rik> | stationearth: so everything is back now ? |
| 15:23 | <eurisko> | 2.6.22-1-686 |
| 15:24 | <stationearth> | rik: yes. Atleast the applications I need all the time. The rest I'll install when I notice them |
| 15:24 | <rik> | stationearth: okay |
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| 15:24 | <stationearth> | rik: Thanks a tonne for the fix. over and out. Have a nice day. |
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| 15:25 | <rik> | no problem |
| 15:25 | <stationearth> | MoDaX: rik helped fix the problem with kdebase. I'll hold updating for a while. |
| 15:25 | <stationearth> | MoDaX: Thanks for your help |
| 15:26 | <stew> | eurisko: and what happens when you run "modprobe backlight"? |
| 15:26 | <stew> | !find backlight.ko unstable |
| 15:26 | <eurisko> | the module dosen't exist |
| 15:26 | <eurisko> | FATAL: Module backlight not found. |
| 15:26 | <tcsetattr> | there is an "asus-laptop" module that's supposed to have that functionality according to Kconfig |
| 15:26 | <MoDaX> | stationearth: np |
| 15:27 | <stew> | i don't have .22, it exists in .18 though |
| 15:27 | <eurisko> | tcsetattr, i have that one loaded |
| 15:27 | <eurisko> | asus-laptop: Asus Laptop Support version 0.42 |
| 15:27 | <eurisko> | asus-laptop: T13FV model detected |
| 15:27 | <MicZe> | oh now the folders are blue in the console. thats an improvement |
| 15:28 | <eurisko> | it's strange but on the kubuntu live , it loaded saying unsupported model but worked partialy, and here says supported and dosen't :D |
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| 15:29 | <tcsetattr> | eurisko dmesg | grep -i backlight |
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| 15:29 | <eurisko> | nothin |
| 15:30 | <tcsetattr> | does anything get added to dmesg if you rmmod asus-laptop and modprobe it again? |
| 15:30 | <eurisko> | yes, at removal nothing, but when loaded the same message appears |
| 15:30 | <eurisko> | what do you think, of compiling the module backlight ? |
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| 15:31 | <tcsetattr> | I dunno.. is it actually gone from the kernel or just from your configuration? |
| 15:31 | <eurisko> | i was looking for it in the kernel to compile it, but i can't find it... |
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| 15:32 | <eurisko> | this version of the kernel i am using right now is from apt |
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| 15:33 | <tcsetattr> | Device drivers -> Graphics support |
| 15:33 | <eurisko> | ohh iwas looking for it under acpi/apm |
| 15:34 | <tcsetattr> | I suspect the debian kernel config includes it already though. |
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| 15:35 | <tcsetattr> | do you have a /sys/class/backlight? |
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| 15:36 | <eurisko> | i have and inside |
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| 15:36 | <eurisko> | actual_brightness brightness max_brightness power subsystem uevent |
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| 15:36 | <eurisko> | so i guess i have the backlight inside the asus_laptop |
| 15:36 | <tcsetattr> | so there's definitely some kind of driver there. |
| 15:37 | <tcsetattr> | did you see the link to http://acpi4asus.sf.net/ in the kernel help text |
| 15:37 | <eurisko> | no guides there |
| 15:39 | <eurisko> | i guess i will send them my dsdt file |
| 15:39 | <tcsetattr> | can you change it through sysfs, like echo 15 > /sys/class/backlight/brightness |
| 15:39 | <eurisko> | that was my next question |
| 15:39 | <eurisko> | let me try |
| 15:41 | <eurisko> | yeahhhhh!! |
| 15:41 | <eurisko> | thanks |
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| 15:42 | <tcsetattr> | so you just need to get the daemon that reads the special keyboards events and pokes at /sys for you. |
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| 15:55 | <xerophyte> | if i want to recompile my kernel to get my wireless card to work, do i have to apply any patches which debian has .. if so how can i go about doing it |
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| 15:58 | <frank> | what card is it? |
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| 16:14 | <eurisko> | are any specific kernel drivers for touchpads? |
| 16:14 | <eurisko> | or is a X driver? |
| 16:15 | <tcsetattr> | apt-cache search touchpad shows a few things |
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| 16:20 | <thomasbl> | I wanna configure exim4 for using it with 2-4 domains and a couple of users... |
| 16:20 | <thomasbl> | I don't want use an sql server or such |
| 16:20 | <thomasbl> | simple textfile would be great |
| 16:21 | <thomasbl> | have anybody a tutorial for that or a tutorial where i can learn a little bit more about exim4? |
| 16:22 | <Danyael_X> | http://edseek.com/~jasonb/articles/exim4_courier/exim4.html |
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| 16:23 | <thomasbl> | erm the users shall be virtual, I forgot |
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| 16:24 | <eldowan> | locsmif: I was able to fix the problem I had with a specific subnet yesterday. It turns out shorewall WAS blocking the traffic as part of a range that was blacklisted from the factory. I was able to update the rules to allow for the packet. Thanks for the help again. The kicker was that syslog showed me exactly where the problem was. Yeah syslog. |
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| 16:25 | <thomasbl> | Danyael_X: do you have another tutorial for that situation? |
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| 16:25 | <Danyael_X> | hummm.... try here http://www.exim-new-users.co.uk/ |
| 16:25 | <Danyael_X> | after that i'm all out of exim links |
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| 16:26 | <thomasbl> | ok. I found this site some mins before and its not really good |
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| 16:27 | <Danyael_X> | ggogle has a lot on "exim4 virtual users" |
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| 16:28 | <thomasbl> | yes but nothing with virtual users _and_ domains |
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| 16:28 | <thomasbl> | +multiple |
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| 16:28 | <faderhval> | hey guys im trying to configure pidgin and i've manage to install it but with out ssl support how do i add ssl support?? i tried ./configure --help but i dont see anything really about ssl support |
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| 16:28 | <donfede> | /dpkg flood |
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| 16:30 | <MoDaX> | faderhval: install libssl-dev or libgnutls-dev and try ./configure again |
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| 16:32 | <faderhval> | will do..thanks |
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| 16:51 | <weebl^> | How can I make a folder readable only by root, so normal users cannot look in to it even though they cannot change it at the moment |
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| 16:51 | <Oezzok> | Anyone who can help me out with bad disk write performance? it's a dell poweredge 840 with SAS 5 controller using a LSI chipset, I got as far as setting WCE parameters using sdparm but i'm not sure this is good like this |
| 16:53 | <stouset> | What're the better CLI newsreaders? |
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| 16:53 | <stouset> | pan seems like the only decent GUI one, but it aggravates me. tin is slow for large groups. |
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| 16:55 | <stouset> | A mutt-like interface would be great. |
| 16:56 | <weebl^> | How can I make a folder readable only by root, so normal users cannot look in to it even though they cannot change it at the moment |
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| 16:58 | <stouset> | weebl^: Remove the execute bit from the directories. |
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| 16:58 | <weebl^> | no i just want to lock them out completely |
| 16:59 | <petemc> | Oezzok: which kernel are you using? |
| 16:59 | <weebl^> | stouset ? |
| 16:59 | <petemc> | Oezzok: also, check to see if theres any firmware/bios updates for the controller |
| 16:59 | <stouset> | weebl^: Again, remove the execute bit from the directory. |
| 17:00 | <weebl^> | i don't really know what you mean im not really experienced in linux |
| 17:00 | <stouset> | weebl^: chmod go-x /path/to/directory |
| 17:00 | <valdyn> | !wikifaq weebl^ Permissions |
| 17:00 | <dpkg> | weebl^: check out http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://wiki.debian.org/ |
| 17:00 | <weebl^> | ok thank you |
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| 17:04 | <weebl^> | now in this folder i just modded go-x i have a subfolder which i would like to give one user access to, i tried chown -hR bast4rd /path/to/dir but it doesn't seem to work |
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| 17:06 | <Oezzok> | 2.6.18-4-686 |
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| 17:07 | <petemc> | Oezzok: im not sure ewhat improvements if any have been made to the sas driver, but it might be worth trying a more recent kernel |
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| 17:09 | <Oezzok> | o.O is it that old this kernel? |
| 17:09 | <Oezzok> | thought it was a quite a fresh install |
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| 17:10 | <peterS> | 2.6.18 is not terribly old, but SAS is a pretty new technology, not widely deployed until a couple years ago, so Linux support was probably still maturing when 2.6.18 came out |
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| 17:11 | <peterS> | (in fact I think the current spec was finalised in 2005, deployment came later) |
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| 17:12 | <Oezzok> | how do I go on upgrading the kernel? |
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| 17:12 | <Oezzok> | ohh .22 now |
| 17:13 | <peterS> | Oezzok: see http://backports.org/ for 2.6.21 packages that work on debian stable |
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| 17:13 | <Oezzok> | What would you recommend to test the disk write performance? |
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| 17:22 | <the_alchemist> | hello |
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| 17:23 | <the_alchemist> | anyone here knows how vto install linux headers? |
| 17:23 | <the_alchemist> | kernel headers |
| 17:23 | <the_alchemist> | fordebian 4 |
| 17:24 | <recepcion> | olaaaaa |
| 17:24 | <recepcion> | alguien habla españolk |
| 17:24 | <the_alchemist> | english? |
| 17:24 | <azeem> | !es |
| 17:24 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:25 | <azeem> | the_alchemist: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 17:25 | <the_alchemist> | is there russian speakers? |
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| 17:25 | <the_alchemist> | tryed |
| 17:25 | <the_alchemist> | uptput: |
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| 17:25 | <the_alchemist> | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:25 | <the_alchemist> | linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686: Depends: linux-headers-2.6.18-4 (= 2.6.18.dfsg.1-1 2) but 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2 is to be installed |
| 17:25 | <recepcion> | ola |
| 17:26 | <azeem> | the_alchemist: then update your kernel first |
| 17:26 | <the_alchemist> | hmm how? |
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| 17:26 | <the_alchemist> | i tryed and the repository doesnt contain any |
| 17:26 | <azeem> | the_alchemist: what repository? |
| 17:26 | <the_alchemist> | newer kernels |
| 17:26 | <the_alchemist> | debian |
| 17:27 | <the_alchemist> | us |
| 17:27 | <recepcion> | ola |
| 17:27 | <azeem> | the_alchemist: what does apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4 say? |
| 17:27 | <azeem> | eh |
| 17:27 | <the_alchemist> | which kernel should i install? |
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| 17:27 | <azeem> | the_alchemist: what does apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 say? |
| 17:27 | <the_alchemist> | i need to get to work my zd1211 driver[wireless] and i need to have kernel headers for that |
| 17:28 | <the_alchemist> | linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 is already the newest version. |
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| 17:28 | <tcsetattr> | apt-cache policy linux-headers-2.6.18-4 |
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| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | Installed: 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2 |
| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | Candidate: 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2 |
| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | Version table: |
| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | *** 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2 0 |
| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 17:29 | <tcsetattr> | boosh! |
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| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | lol what's the paste url? |
| 17:29 | <the_alchemist> | i got kicked |
| 17:30 | <tcsetattr> | good enough. |
| 17:30 | <azeem> | !paste |
| 17:30 | <dpkg> | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 17:30 | <tcsetattr> | now do apt-cache policy linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686 and this time be smarter |
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| 17:30 | <the_alchemist> | linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 is already the newest version. |
| 17:31 | <the_alchemist> | k |
| 17:31 | <the_alchemist> | one sec |
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| 17:31 | <skynix> | hi |
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| 17:32 | <tcsetattr> | it looks like you have one of the header packages installed from the security updates repository, but you have since removed the security repository from your sources.list. did I guess it right? |
| 17:32 | <weebl^> | I am having troubles, I chmod 770 /var/www, but then I still want to allow user 'bast4rd' to access /var/www/leiterow with chmod 770 /var/www/leiterow, but he can't acces it, what am i doing wrong? |
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| 17:33 | <tcsetattr> | to get into a directory, you need at least execute permission on all of its ancestors. 770 means nobody's getting anything underneath there unless they're in the right group. |
| 17:33 | <vC]Rajohan> | aptitude install php-gd <-- isent php-gd a package? |
| 17:33 | <the_alchemist> | http://paste.debian.net/33484 |
| 17:34 | <valdyn> | weebl^: why should any user have permission to access anything in /var/www ? |
| 17:35 | <weebl^> | they shouldnt |
| 17:35 | <valdyn> | weebl^: /var/www/leiterow is IN /var/www |
| 17:35 | <weebl^> | yes |
| 17:35 | <tcsetattr> | on the contrary, I thought /var/www is where you put things you want the whole world to have access to :) |
| 17:35 | <weebl^> | basicly i need to exclude anyone from entering /var/www but exclude /var/www/leiterow |
| 17:35 | <valdyn> | weebl^: so: 00:34 < valdyn> weebl^: why should any user have permission to access anything in /var/www ? |
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| 17:36 | <weebl^> | yes i know but i need to exclude /var/www/leiterow |
| 17:36 | <weebl^> | maybe it's not possible ? |
| 17:36 | <valdyn> | weebl^: you don't, that's why im asking 'why' |
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| 17:36 | <weebl^> | oh |
| 17:37 | <tcsetattr> | private data goes in your $HOME. public data goes on the web. |
| 17:37 | <weebl^> | true |
| 17:37 | <valdyn> | weebl^: there may be some thing you are trying to achieve with this.. |
| 17:37 | <weebl^> | but it won't be possible |
| 17:37 | <the_alchemist> | <tcsetattr>: no idea, how can i check where did i install the headers from? |
| 17:38 | <valdyn> | weebl^: sure it is possible.. its just silly |
| 17:38 | <tcsetattr> | just put security.debian.org back in your sources.list already. |
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| 17:39 | <valdyn> | weebl^: im asking what you want to _achieve_ so i can tell you how that is done. Not how to apply the possibly wrong solution that you are thinking of |
| 17:40 | <weebl^> | well /var/www shouldn't be accesable by users via ftp or shell |
| 17:40 | <valdyn> | weebl^: you mean 'writable' ? |
| 17:40 | <weebl^> | also readable because else users could use vi to read config files |
| 17:40 | <the_alchemist> | <tcsetattr>: deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib add this line?and what next? |
| 17:40 | <valdyn> | weebl^: there's config files in /var/www ? since when? |
| 17:41 | <tcsetattr> | /var/www is accessible to the whole world via http, why care what other protocols can be used to read it? |
| 17:41 | <azeem> | the_alchemist: not deb-src, deb |
| 17:41 | <the_alchemist> | oh |
| 17:41 | <the_alchemist> | ok |
| 17:41 | <weebl^> | tcsetattr there are .htaccess files which protect these config files |
| 17:41 | <valdyn> | messy |
| 17:42 | <tcsetattr> | files can be individually chmod'ed too you know |
| 17:42 | <weebl^> | yes |
| 17:42 | <weebl^> | thats what i mean |
| 17:42 | <weebl^> | i just chmod 644 the config files |
| 17:42 | <tcsetattr> | the generic policy of "nobody is allowed to cd into /var/www" is in direct conflict with the more specific policy of "somebody is allowed to cd into /var/www/foo". You have to give up one of those dreams. |
| 17:42 | <weebl^> | tcsetattr that's what i was thinking now yes |
| 17:43 | <valdyn> | tcsetattr: not exactly |
| 17:43 | <tcsetattr> | the first one, preferably. It's stupid. |
| 17:43 | <tcsetattr> | .htaccess files should probably be 600 owned by the web server |
| 17:43 | <the_alchemist> | thanks ppl, it worked..now the make is unsuccesfull [zd1211 driver] |
| 17:44 | <Oezzok> | is it correct if I can set WCE on sg0 and sg1 but not on sg2 ? : |
| 17:44 | <Oezzok> | [0:0:0:0] disk ATA ST3250620NS 3BKH - /dev/sg0 |
| 17:44 | <Oezzok> | [0:0:1:0] disk ATA ST3250620NS 3BKH - /dev/sg1 |
| 17:44 | <Oezzok> | [0:1:0:0] disk Dell VIRTUAL DISK 1028 /dev/sda /dev/sg2 |
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| 17:45 | <weebl^> | so how do i create a situation that users cannot reach /var/www from my shell but the files are still accessible through http? |
| 17:45 | <stouset> | weebl^: Why are you trying to do that? |
| 17:46 | <E0x> | weebl^: only give access to the apache user |
| 17:46 | <weebl^> | yes |
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| 17:46 | <tcsetattr> | you should quit using weasel words like "reach" and say what you really mean. There are a few kinds of directory access: listing, searching, creating/deleting... nobody knows which one "reaching" is. |
| 17:47 | <valdyn> | weebl^: have you read the faq about Permissions yet? |
| 17:47 | <weebl^> | yes i have |
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| 17:48 | <valdyn> | weebl^: for directories, the x flag permits cd, the r flag permits listing content |
| 17:48 | <tcsetattr> | when you use permissions correctly, everything is easy. When you dream up alternate realities in which things work differently and then try to twist the system to support your alternate reality, things get hard. |
| 17:49 | <tcsetattr> | correct permissions in /var/www: chmod 600 .htaccess and 644 basically everything else. (htpasswd files shouldn't be under /var/www at all) |
| 17:49 | <E0x> | tcsetattr: hahahahah |
| 17:50 | <weebl^> | ok i'll figure this all out |
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| 17:50 | <ricky> | tcsetattr: Don't forget 755 for directories :0 |
| 17:51 | <ricky> | **:) |
| 17:51 | <tcsetattr> | you could even use 711 for directories if you're weird. but that's the limit, don't try to get weirder. |
| 17:51 | <stouset> | 711? |
| 17:52 | <stouset> | Why would you let people write to them arbitrarily? |
| 17:52 | <stouset> | Er, gah. |
| 17:52 | <stouset> | Scratch that, I'm going off 2 hours sleep. |
| 17:52 | [~] | stouset thunks head on desk |
| 17:52 | <Alcap> | hey |
| 17:53 | <Alcap> | how do you shutdown the x server in debian? |
| 17:53 | <Alcap> | I forgot:S |
| 17:53 | <tcsetattr> | /etc/init.d/xdm stop; /etc/init.d/kdm stop; ... and ctrl-alt-backspace if you have a startx running. |
| 17:54 | <Alcap> | ctrl+alt+backspace reboots the X |
| 17:55 | <Alcap> | it's the first ones;) |
| 17:55 | <Alcap> | thanks |
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| 18:00 | <marcelo> | hi |
| 18:00 | <marcelo> | are there somebody here? |
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| 18:01 | <valdyn> | !justask |
| 18:01 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 18:10 | <the_alchemist> | hey, is any1 here femilliar with zd1211rw build in kernwl 2.6.18 driver? |
| 18:10 | <the_alchemist> | kernel* |
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| 18:11 | <the_alchemist> | i have installed debian etch yesturday and while installing my usb wifi card wasnt connected, after install the usb won't work.linux wont recognise eth1 |
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| 18:46 | <EmleyMoor> | .quit |
| 18:46 | <EmleyMoor> | OOps |
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| 18:53 | <pipegeek> | allo |
| 18:53 | <pipegeek> | so much irc, so little time |
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| 18:55 | <pipegeek> | For the moment, at least, enjoy this unicode: ↂ |
| 18:55 | <dkr> | pipegeek: is that the symbol for divorce? a broken ring :) |
| 18:55 | <pipegeek> | aww |
| 18:55 | <pipegeek> | no, strangely, it's supposedly roman numeral for 10,000 |
| 18:56 | <pipegeek> | according to gucharmap |
| 18:56 | <dkr> | ah, this is the divorce one: ⚮ |
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| 18:57 | <pipegeek> | oh! There actually *is* a symbol for that |
| 18:57 | <pipegeek> | bizarre |
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| 18:57 | <dkr> | ⚯ unmarried partnership symbol, heh, how politcally correct |
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| 18:58 | <dkr> | marriage symbols is the joined rings: ⚭ |
| 18:58 | <ptr> | Sweet! I got me a three-letter! |
| 18:58 | <dkr> | tla++ |
| 18:58 | <dkr> | tln++, too |
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| 19:31 | <oldude67> | how much memory do i need to run debian on a p3? |
| 19:32 | <chealer> | oldude67: the installation guide should answer that. |
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| 19:33 | <ben_goodger> | oldude67: it depends. anywhere between 32 and 8GiB |
| 19:34 | <oldude67> | thanks |
| 19:34 | <oldude67> | ben_goodger, can it be downloaded to a cd or does it have to go on a dvd? |
| 19:35 | <ben_goodger> | oldude67: it can go on several DVDs if you want |
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| 19:35 | <ben_goodger> | however, a popular method is to use a network installation disc which downloads everything you ask for during the install |
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| 19:36 | <oldude67> | ben_goodger, can that be put on one cd or does it have to be a dvd,this computer has no dvd player |
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| 19:36 | <oldude67> | sorry am use to slackware |
| 19:37 | <Vakio> | oldude67: yeah, it fits on a CD. |
| 19:37 | <oldude67> | thank you |
| 19:37 | <oldude67> | is the web site at www.debian.com? |
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| 19:38 | <Vakio> | .org |
| 19:38 | <oldude67> | ty |
| 19:38 | <chealer> | oldude67: wikipedia should answer that |
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| 19:40 | <Ten> | ...because god knows, everyone should consult wikipedia before asking anyone any sort of question about anything. |
| 19:41 | <ben_goodger> | hell yes |
| 19:41 | <ben_goodger> | they should also check on google for at least two pages |
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| 19:41 | <ben_goodger> | and ask their friends if they're not busy |
| 19:42 | <Ten> | Oh yes. And pray for a bit too - just in case. |
| 19:42 | <Ten> | "Hi, are you?" "WTF you could have found my blog if you'd googled." |
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| 19:43 | <Ten> | "Sorry dad" "STFU." |
| 19:43 | <ben_goodger> | Ten: you display a disappointing lack of faith in humanity |
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| 19:44 | <Ten> | ben_goodger: That's actually the nicest thing anybody's ever said to me. Thanks. |
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| 19:44 | <ben_goodger> | I would at least hope that that will never happen |
| 19:45 | <ben_goodger> | believing it is a different matter |
| 19:45 | <ben_goodger> | in any case, it would save everyone lots of time if other people read things before asking about it |
| 19:45 | <ben_goodger> | we aren't copy-paste bots |
| 19:45 | <ben_goodger> | we aren't AOL tech support. :) |
| 19:45 | <Ten> | Indeed. |
| 19:46 | [~] | Ten shudders at the mention of AOL. |
| 19:46 | <locsmif> | in the case of www.debian.com, tias applies |
| 19:46 | <ben_goodger> | my father is their customer |
| 19:46 | <locsmif> | neither wikipedia nor google |
| 19:46 | <ben_goodger> | their tech support is based in ireland... |
| 19:47 | <Ten> | besides which, wikipedia is full of apocryphal crap. |
| 19:47 | <Ten> | You could easily find Debian redefined as Debain because that's everyone on Jimbob600's Halo server says it. |
| 19:48 | <Ten> | See GNU/Linux for an example of that, heh |
| 19:48 | <ben_goodger> | I have no specific problem with the irish, and I love the accent under normal circumstances, but when it's piped across quite a wide sea and then passes through a huge series of outdated telephone exchanges, it's god-awful |
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| 19:49 | <ben_goodger> | Ten: GNU/Linux is the name used by people who have not yet got tired of explaining the "gunnoo-slash" on the front... people who read the Linux article on wikipedia are not the same type of people who read the Linux (kernel) article on wikipedia |
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| 19:49 | <Ten> | Thick regional accents of any kind are hard for people to understand. Phone support really need to be mindful of that. |
| 19:49 | <ben_goodger> | mmm |
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| 19:50 | <ben_goodger> | for some reason, people from the asian environ are more easily understood |
| 19:50 | <ben_goodger> | but the telephony system in your area is probably much different to mine, so long as you don't live in cornwall, uk |
| 19:51 | <Ten> | ben_goodger: I tend to use GNU/Linux and not bother to explain it, which works on IRC, heh |
| 19:51 | <andremachado> | Hello, are there Debian Days being planned around the world this year? I found very few updated at http://wiki.debian.org/debiandayEnglish |
| 19:52 | <ben_goodger> | people on IRC can google it, don't care, or already know... people in the computer shop at which I work will probably dismiss me accurately as an anal-retentive if I start rabbitting about the six freedoms |
| 19:52 | <ben_goodger> | andremachado: apparently not.. |
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| 19:53 | <andremachado> | Ben_goodger: I found only Brazil and Chile for 2007 |
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| 19:54 | <Ten> | You'll be saying next that you pronounce it lynux :P |
| 19:55 | <ben_goodger> | oh, I do |
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| 19:55 | <ben_goodger> | I find "linnux" to be wholly incompatible with a snobbish slightly overemphasised home counties accent |
| 19:55 | <Ten> | Oh dear. |
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| 19:55 | <ben_goodger> | I would be forced to enunciate it and surround it with sarcasm quotes |
| 19:57 | <ben_goodger> | I typically say "lynux" to refer to gnu, linux, xorg, python, gnome and openoffice as a whole OS, but I'm very aware of context |
| 19:57 | <Ten> | I say linnux or g-noo linnux. Never really found it problematic, tbh. |
| 19:58 | <ben_goodger> | yes, but germanic language users are used to that sort of thing |
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| 20:01 | <Ten> | Don't get me wrong, I hear a lot of people say "lynux", but the thing's named after a guy. |
| 20:01 | <peterS> | wait, there are six freedoms? |
| 20:02 | <peterS> | just like the flags over texas? |
| 20:02 | <peterS> | I thought there were only four |
| 20:02 | <ben_goodger> | GPL3 added some |
| 20:02 | <Ten> | It seems a bit harsh to insist on changing the guy's name, heh. |
| 20:02 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: yeah but it took away freedom 0, so. |
| 20:02 | <ben_goodger> | freedom from patent litigation under some circumstances, and freedom from tivoisation |
| 20:03 | <ben_goodger> | peterS: what was freedom 0? |
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| 20:03 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: freedom from tivoisation came at the expense of freedom 0: the freedom to use the software, for any purpose |
| 20:03 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: gpl3 strayed into use restrictions, which the gpl2 stayed away from for the sake of freedom 0 |
| 20:04 | <peterS> | if you can't tell by now, I have a problem with that |
| 20:04 | <Ten> | "the freedom to use the software for any purpose" == NO LICENSE. |
| 20:04 | <peterS> | Ten: you'd think so, but the gpl3 attempts to restrict even the use of the software, not just distribution |
| 20:05 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: actually I take that back, it isn't anti-tivoisation that sacrificed freedom 0, it was the web services thing |
| 20:05 | <ben_goodger> | "attempts"? |
| 20:05 | <Ten> | Ooh, unnecessary capitalisation ftw. |
| 20:06 | <Ten> | The web services thing is an interesting area, peterS. |
| 20:06 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: well, a lot of gpl2 apologists tried to argue that it had a basis in copyright law, and gives rights you didn't already have, as opposed to an EULA which takes rights away that you otherwise would have had. use restrictions, like the web services thing, are in the EULA category |
| 20:06 | <ben_goodger> | well |
| 20:07 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: this is why I say "attempts" - it is an open question whether the license can take away rights you would otherwise already have if you didn't accept the license |
| 20:07 | <ben_goodger> | legally, I can require you to speak only using consonants while using my software |
| 20:07 | <Ten> | It all boils down to what constitutes distribution. |
| 20:07 | <peterS> | no you can't. not if I've got a legal copy |
| 20:07 | <peterS> | if you can require only consonants when I distribute it. |
| 20:07 | <ben_goodger> | where does it say that? |
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| 20:08 | <peterS> | where does what say what? |
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| 20:08 | <ben_goodger> | well, surely a EULA is binding, so to speak... |
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| 20:09 | <ben_goodger> | if you sign it |
| 20:09 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: if I didn't sign it? the gpl2 preamble makes the great point that "you do not have to accept this license, since you did not sign it" |
| 20:09 | <peterS> | I never sign open source software licenses |
| 20:09 | <Ten> | ben_goodger: You can't really get away with stipulating what a private individual does with your copyright work, until such point as they distribute it. |
| 20:10 | <peterS> | yeah, this is called "first sale", as I recall |
| 20:10 | <ben_goodger> | I can require you to sign a vowel exclusion declaration before using my software if I want, and then extend a license to you based on that |
| 20:10 | <peterS> | once a copyrighted work has been sold, that copy can be used as the buyer sees fit |
| 20:10 | <ben_goodger> | I suppose |
| 20:10 | <zatoichi> | somebody speak spanish, oh sorry good night |
| 20:10 | <zatoichi> | ^_^ |
| 20:10 | <ben_goodger> | !es |
| 20:10 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:10 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: yeah, but the gpl3 does not provide any mechanism for signing anything or indicating agreement with the terms |
| 20:10 | <Ten> | You can write what you like in a EULA, but if you start requiring people to convert to Buddhism in their own home before they can use it, you have a meaningless and not legally binding agreement |
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| 20:11 | <peterS> | ben_goodger: traditional EULAs get around this by declaring by fiat that "by using this software, you agree...." I think this is legally shaky. |
| 20:11 | <Ten> | this is part of why those EULAs all have a clause which says "Some of this stuff is legally speaking complete bollocks, all the rest should still apply" |
| 20:11 | <bernardo> | what are the codecs that I need to download in order to play wma, wmv and real player data? |
| 20:12 | <peterS> | speaking of EULAs.. |
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| 20:12 | <chealer> | bernardo: with which engine? |
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| 20:12 | <Ten> | peterS: IANAL, but from the last time I took advice on this from someone who was, he pointed out it's very shaky indeed, at least in the UK. |
| 20:13 | <peterS> | Ten: IANAL either. anyway, this is why I am not a fan of the gpl3. I think it strayed into use restrictions, which ought to require some form of signed agreement |
| 20:13 | <bernardo> | chealer: u mean the application? it's totem |
| 20:13 | <ben_goodger> | bernardo: no, the engine, which in this case is likely to be gstreamer |
| 20:13 | <chealer> | bernardo: not really. totem-xine or totem-gstreamer? |
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| 20:14 | <bernardo> | chealer: gstreamer |
| 20:14 | <chealer> | bernardo: sorry, no idea. |
| 20:15 | <bernardo> | chealer: uhmmm... how did you do it on your pc? |
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| 20:15 | <chealer> | bernardo: I don't use gstreamer. (and I don't know how to play realplayer off the top of my head even with xine-lib) |
| 20:16 | <ben_goodger> | bernardo: realplayer content is played using realplayer, I'm afraid |
| 20:16 | <bernardo> | chealer: how can I change to xine then? |
| 20:16 | <peterS> | bernardo: you can install 'totem-xine', which will remove 'totem-gstreamer' |
| 20:16 | <chealer> | bernardo: assuming you use GNOME, I guess you'd install totem-xine |
| 20:16 | <bernardo> | ben_goodger: uhmmm...thanx |
| 20:16 | <Ten> | yeah, I'd go with mplayer and realplayer and their respective browser plugins if you want all that stuff. |
| 20:17 | <bernardo> | Ten: yeah...I do |
| 20:17 | <ben_goodger> | bernardo: by which I mean you can't play it using anything else, due to the proprietaryness |
| 20:18 | <bernardo> | ben_goodger: I see... |
| 20:19 | <chealer> | ben_goodger: mplayer is supposed to be able to play RealAudio and RealVideo 8/9 |
| 20:19 | <ben_goodger> | I've yet to see it do t |
| 20:20 | <chealer> | ben_goodger: well, w32codecs support that |
| 20:20 | <chealer> | (I didn't mean it could do that "natively") |
| 20:20 | <tcsetattr> | libavcodec handles several of the realcrap codecs, but some are missing. mplayer can load the proprietary DLLs to play the rest, if you for some reason think you can trust that proprietary code running on your machine |
| 20:21 | <bernardo> | After I installed mplayer and the mozilla plugin for it do I still have to downloads the w32codecs or does it come by default? |
| 20:22 | <chealer> | bernardo: it does not come by default. |
| 20:22 | <chealer> | !tell bernardo about w32codecs |
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| 20:22 | <locsmif> | peterS, spreading FUD about gpl 3 again? |
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| 20:22 | <peterS> | locsmif: no |
| 20:22 | <bernardo> | chealer: any ideias on how I can get it? |
| 20:22 | <locsmif> | about freedom 0: i get the freedom to use the TiVo device for whatever i want, including my modifications |
| 20:23 | <chealer> | bernardo: did you receive the factoid sent to you by dpkg? |
| 20:23 | <bernardo> | chealer: yeah...but... it didn't say how I can get it.....sorry |
| 20:23 | <locsmif> | not TiVo's freedom to take free software and then write software that takes away my rights to do modify and run it on their hardware |
| 20:23 | <chealer> | !w32codecs |
| 20:23 | <dpkg> | w32codecs is probably a non-free package that is not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as AVI, Realmedia, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia> |
| 20:23 | <locsmif> | -do |
| 20:24 | <chealer> | bernardo: "To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia>" |
| 20:24 | <peterS> | locsmif: you're about 2 or 3 points behind the discussion |
| 20:24 | <locsmif> | oh, i've read the backlog, professor. |
| 20:24 | <bernardo> | chealer: sorry, but I don't know to ask it something... :) |
| 20:24 | <chealer> | dpkg: debian-multimedia |
| 20:24 | <dpkg> | [debian-multimedia] a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 20:24 | <peterS> | locsmif: you missed the part where i corrected myself, then |
| 20:24 | <peterS> | locsmif: you may have missed it deliberately, I suspect |
| 20:25 | <bernardo> | dpkg: debian-multimedia.etch |
| 20:25 | <dpkg> | To add the debian-multimedia repository, first ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) |
| 20:25 | <peterS> | locsmif: when you go to accuse someone of FUD, you have more credibility when you aren't FUDing yourself |
| 20:25 | <bernardo> | dpkg: apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 20:25 | <dpkg> | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 20:25 | <locsmif> | "anyway, this is why I am not a fan of the gpl3. I think it strayed into use restrictions" ? |
| 20:25 | <peterS> | locsmif: no, before that |
| 20:25 | <peterS> | locsmif: you claim to have read the scrollback, you should be able to find where I corrected myself |
| 20:26 | <locsmif> | you are now putting up a straw man argument, as if i was interested in you correcting yourself, which you are forced to do a lot already anyway. |
| 20:27 | <locsmif> | the GPL is always about distribution restrictions, never about use restrictions |
| 20:27 | <peterS> | locsmif: my correction is important in this context. it is basically a correction of the thing you accused me of |
| 20:27 | <peterS> | locsmif: if you are going to ignore that, you are the one doing the FUD |
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| 20:27 | [~] | weasel hits dpkg for now checking fingerprints |
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| 20:28 | <locsmif> | so for you to keep selling that bs everywhere, yes it annoys me, because it's FUD. Linux kernel mailing list type FUD. |
| 20:28 | <peterS> | locsmif: you are still ignoring the fact that the "BS" you accuse me of "selling" is the thing I corrected |
| 20:28 | <locsmif> | I won't stop you, but i will say the opposite in here, to balance it out. |
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| 20:28 | <peterS> | locsmif: why do you take this tactic? |
| 20:29 | <IvanGP> | hello! |
| 20:29 | <weasel> | dpkg: forget apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 20:29 | <dpkg> | i forgot apt-key 1f41b907, weasel |
| 20:29 | <weasel> | dpkg: apt-key 1F41B907 is gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --export 1D7FC53F80F852C188F4ED0B07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 20:29 | <dpkg> | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 is gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --export 1D7FC53F80F852C188F4ED0B07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; ; gpg --export 1F41B907 is gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --export 1D7FC53F80F852C188F4ED0B07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 20:29 | <IvanGP> | someone can tell me the name of the server of elive please |
| 20:29 | <weasel> | hmm |
| 20:29 | <weasel> | that didn't work |
| 20:29 | <weasel> | stupid bot |
| 20:30 | <IvanGP> | someone can tell me the name of the server of elive please please |
| 20:30 | <stew> | IvanGP: ask #elive on irc.freenode.net |
| 20:30 | <IvanGP> | ;-) |
| 20:30 | <IvanGP> | mmm |
| 20:30 | <IvanGP> | thanks |
| 20:31 | <IvanGP> | stew, how enter? |
| 20:31 | <stew> | IvanGP: /connect irc.freenode.net ; /join #elive |
| 20:32 | <IvanGP> | oohhh |
| 20:32 | <peterS> | locsmif: I take it by your silence that either you are rereading the scrollback to figure out why your accusation was incorrect, or you already did and are now embarrassed |
| 20:32 | <weasel> | ah |
| 20:32 | <weasel> | apt-key is not a simple factoid, it's some more magic |
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| 20:32 | <weasel> | dpkg: you suck. |
| 20:32 | <dpkg> | Dream on, weasel. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 20:32 | <IvanGP> | stew, look: * Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator |
| 20:33 | <IvanGP> | stew, what i do? |
| 20:33 | <chealer> | hah |
| 20:33 | <chealer> | !win dpkg |
| 20:33 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, dpkg! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 20:33 | <stew> | IvanGP: i don't know what you did. perhaps you should be seeking help for your particular irc client? |
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| 20:33 | <tcsetattr> | he meant /SERVER, not /CONNECT |
| 20:33 | <stew> | i menat /connect |
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| 20:34 | <tcsetattr> | /CONNECT is an irc operator command for linking servers. |
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| 20:34 | <weasel> | tcsetattr: irssi calls that sconnect, and /connect is to connect to new servers (instead of disconnecting from the current and reconnecint to the new) |
| 20:34 | <tcsetattr> | the irssi is not the true irc |
| 20:34 | <weasel> | (yes, I know that sucks) |
| 20:34 | <IvanGP> | stew, thank! |
| 20:34 | <IvanGP> | by |
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| 20:34 | <stew> | ahh, sconnect, i've always been doing sever connects via /raw commands! |
| 20:35 | <peterS> | "sever". haha. |
| 20:35 | <tcsetattr> | who knows why irssi is stupidly renaming commands, just likes being incompatible I suppose. |
| 20:35 | <weasel> | /sconnect together with the servercomplete script is nice |
| 20:35 | <stew> | peterS: i never said that! stop spreading fud |
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| 20:35 | <weasel> | probably more about caring for the 99.99% of users instead of those few of us opers who know better |
| 20:35 | <ranix> | !lame |
| 20:36 | <dpkg> | Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder. Debian does not distribute LAME due to patent and infrastructure issues. Binary packages are available from <debian-multimedia> or <rarewares>. Upstream sources, with build instructions for Debian at http://www.mp3dev.org/ or http://lame.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:36 | <tcsetattr> | what was wrong with /SERVER as a name for the command to change servers? |
| 20:36 | <weasel> | tcsetattr: that's exactly what /server does. |
| 20:36 | <tcsetattr> | did it have to become /CONNECT instead? |
| 20:36 | <weasel> | no, it's not |
| 20:36 | <weasel> | work on your reading comprehension. |
| 20:36 | <peterS> | no, irssi supports both /CONNECT and /SERVER. the latter automatically disconnects from the current server, which is often not what you want |
| 20:36 | <ranix> | I dislike irssi |
| 20:36 | <ranix> | I am using bitchx |
| 20:37 | <tcsetattr> | oh, adding an extra one. |
| 20:37 | <ranix> | and I'm running it as root |
| 20:37 | <locsmif> | /server +address.net |
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| 20:37 | <locsmif> | that doesn't disconnect at all |
| 20:37 | <locsmif> | but does create an extra server window, which you can /win kill if you like. |
| 20:38 | <tcsetattr> | that must be confusing. How does it know which server to send commands to if you do a /CONNECT without creating a separate window? |
| 20:38 | <weasel> | why would you want a window per network? that doesn't make much sense. |
| 20:38 | <locsmif> | tcsetattr, you can choose to use /server +domain.name or you can switch servers with ctrl-x |
| 20:38 | <weasel> | or you can give the network as arguments to /query and friends |
| 20:39 | <weasel> | (which tab complete gets right most of the time anyway) |
| 20:39 | <tcsetattr> | I always talk in the wrong channel if I'm on more than one in the same window... and that's without the extra complication of them being on different servers and maybe having the same name :) |
| 20:39 | <weasel> | I don't usually talk in the status window |
| 20:40 | <ranix> | I never talk in more than one room on the same server |
| 20:40 | <tcsetattr> | I don't know what a status window would be. |
| 20:40 | <ranix> | so I just use seperate instances |
| 20:40 | <locsmif> | tcsetattr, are you thinking back of the ircII days ;) |
| 20:40 | <tcsetattr> | I am _using_ ircII. specifically, an old version from before they put in the mIRC color codes crap. |
| 20:40 | <locsmif> | split screen, and accidental cross pastes ;) |
| 20:40 | <peterS> | tcsetattr: well, in irssi you get a status window separate from your channels and queries. if you send something to a server while you're focused in a channel/query window, the command goes to the corresponding server. if you do it while in the status window, the status window has a default server which is cycled through with C-x |
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| 20:41 | <weasel> | you are worse than cdlu |
| 20:41 | <ranix> | there is an event horizon of geekness that I have yet to approach |
| 20:41 | <tcsetattr> | mIRC color codes are heinous and must be rejected |
| 20:41 | <ranix> | and that is spending time to figure out which IRC client is the best |
| 20:41 | <ranix> | I can't be bothered |
| 20:41 | <peterS> | ranix: the first hurdle is to start referring to irc channels as channels. calling them rooms makes you sound like an AOLer |
| 20:41 | <weasel> | ranix: bitchx is not it. it maybe was, 10 years ago. |
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| 20:41 | <ranix> | I pick the easiest one and go |
| 20:42 | <tcsetattr> | when ircII wen mIRC-y I knew it was time to freeze on the previous version and start patching bugs independently... |
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| 20:42 | <ranix> | apt-get install screen bitchx && bitchx |
| 20:42 | <stew> | i'm really sorry i said /connect instead of /server |
| 20:42 | <locsmif> | somebody running an irc client as root doesn't need any advice anymore, because he's too 1337 |
| 20:42 | <ranix> | then, /connect #debian |
| 20:42 | <weasel> | stew: don't be :) |
| 20:42 | <ranix> | My choice is superior |
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| 20:42 | <tcsetattr> | heh |
| 20:42 | <weasel> | ranix: you make me wince |
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| 20:43 | <weasel> | bitchx is the broken thing that stops us from having AAAA records |
| 20:43 | <weasel> | I wished it would just get fixed or die |
| 20:43 | <ranix> | What are AAAA records |
| 20:43 | <weasel> | dns resource records for ipv6 addresses. |
| 20:44 | <ranix> | ah |
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| 20:44 | <ranix> | I will be a late adopter of ipv6 |
| 20:44 | <weasel> | your client breaks when there are AAAA records. |
| 20:44 | <tcsetattr> | I'm learning Forth so I can understand openfirmware. let's see if that starts a more interesting discussion than the irc client wars |
| 20:44 | <stew> | its too bad we lost the bitchx factoid from several years ago |
| 20:44 | <peterS> | you sound like you'll be a late adopter of a lot of technology. hmmm, was that too harsh? |
| 20:44 | <ranix> | then I will switch to the next thing that has the least keystrokes in its name |
| 20:44 | <peterS> | stew: you mean the greycat quote I added? hmm. |
| 20:44 | <bathat> | i recently wiped the first 512 bytes of a certain partition... i've assumed that it was the mbr but it was located on /dev/sda1... w95 ext'd |
| 20:45 | <weasel> | weasel@intrepid:~$ bitchx |
| 20:45 | <weasel> | weasel@intrepid:~$ irssi |
| 20:45 | <weasel> | irssi is shorter :) |
| 20:45 | <bathat> | is this the mbr or is that located on /dev/sda? |
| 20:45 | <tcsetattr> | mine is /usr/bin/irc . |
| 20:45 | <bathat> | and what does w95 ext'd indicate? |
| 20:45 | <ranix> | OK, I will be switching to irssi when ipv6 rolls around |
| 20:45 | <ranix> | until then I can't be assed |
| 20:45 | <weasel> | ranix: it's people like you that stop us from having AAAA records in irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:45 | <tcsetattr> | I believe "w95 ext'd" indicates the Extended partition that holds the logical partitions (numbers greater than 5) |
| 20:45 | <ranix> | considering I will restart this box like four times in the next year |
| 20:45 | <weasel> | bathat: the mbr is on the disk itself, not on the partition. |
| 20:46 | <chealer> | dpkg: debian-multimedia |
| 20:46 | <dpkg> | debian-multimedia is, like, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
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| 20:46 | <stew> | there''s no place like ::1 |
| 20:46 | <ranix> | weasel: don't hold back on my account |
| 20:46 | <tcsetattr> | I may be missing something, but if adding an AAAA record gets rid of all the bitchx lamers, isn't that a win-win? |
| 20:46 | <chealer> | dpkg: blame keyboard |
| 20:46 | [~] | dpkg blames Scurz_ and keyboard for all the evil in the world |
| 20:46 | <peterS> | <greycat> maddog: take a pimply 14-year-old script kiddie. Put him in a blender. Puree. Pour into a shallow tray, let it solidify, put it in the CD-ROM drive, mount it, and then compile it. You have BitchX. <greycat> maddog: when you've outgrown saying "D00d!" and "That's so gay!" then move up to irssi. |
| 20:46 | <weasel> | tcsetattr: it could be argued that way, yes |
| 20:46 | <bathat> | weasel, aha, people have said that to me before but it never quite clicked |
| 20:46 | <stew> | peterS: YES |
| 20:46 | <weasel> | tcsetattr: but then since irc.debian.org is the default for bitchx in debian it seems kinda nasty to break it |
| 20:46 | <bathat> | so i wonder what partition i wiped 512 bytes of |
| 20:46 | <peterS> | !greycat on bitchx is <greycat> maddog: take a pimply 14-year-old script kiddie. Put him in a blender. Puree. Pour into a shallow tray, let it solidify, put it in the CD-ROM drive, mount it, and then compile it. You have BitchX. <greycat> maddog: when you've outgrown saying "D00d!" and "That's so gay!" then move up to irssi. |
| 20:46 | <dpkg> | peterS: okay |
| 20:47 | <weasel> | bathat: your first partition |
| 20:47 | <weasel> | bathat: whatever that is. ask fdisk or cfdisk or your fstab |
| 20:47 | <bathat> | i've run testdisk multiple times and i've been working on restoring the partition table for about a week |
| 20:47 | <tcsetattr> | bleh. I'm mildly offended that debian distributes bitchx. surely the people who run the irc.debian.org server should have some influence over the local bugfixes in the bitchx debian package though |
| 20:47 | <bathat> | it worked the very first time but i never wrote the data to disk |
| 20:47 | <tcsetattr> | bathat, have you tried gpart? |
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| 20:48 | <bathat> | the next day, i booted the system, ran testdisk again, and... nothing |
| 20:48 | <weasel> | tcsetattr: irc.d.o is just a cname to us |
| 20:48 | <ranix_irssi> | irssi |
| 20:48 | |-| | ranix changed nick to ranix_bitchx |
| 20:48 | <ranix_bitchx> | and bitchx |
| 20:48 | <bathat> | couldn't view any files and the partition table was weird |
| 20:48 | <bathat> | tried gpart |
| 20:48 | <peterS> | weasel: although you do have NMU power over bx.. |
| 20:48 | <weasel> | peterS: I'd need ftp* power |
| 20:48 | <weasel> | then I'd just remove the sucker |
| 20:48 | <bathat> | luckily, i copied the partition table to a forum post and i recreated it, but it didn't help |
| 20:48 | <ranix_irssi> | I am noticing that the bitchx colors are superior, but the irssi status bar is superior |
| 20:48 | <weasel> | or NMU it as a transitional package |
| 20:48 | <weasel> | depedning on irssi |
| 20:48 | <tcsetattr> | the debian.org DNS admin who put that CNAME there... can't smack the bitchx .deb maintainer upside the head? |
| 20:48 | <peterS> | heh |
| 20:48 | <weasel> | and shipping a symlink |
| 20:49 | <chealer> | hehe |
| 20:49 | <stew> | weasel: can't you upload a kenrel patch to summarily disable bitchx? :) |
| 20:49 | <bathat> | the partition table info i have doesn't display devices |
| 20:49 | <weasel> | stew: don't give me ideas |
| 20:49 | <ranix_irssi> | how about you upload a kernel patch that disables gnome until they implement Linus' file-chooser thumbnails |
| 20:50 | <weasel> | bathat: sda == the entire disk. sda1 == the first primary partition on it, sda2 the second etc. sda5 is the first logical, sda6 the second logical etc. |
| 20:50 | <ranix_irssi> | that ought to take precedence |
| 20:50 | <bathat> | yeah |
| 20:50 | <bathat> | so i wiped part of the first partition |
| 20:50 | <weasel> | yes. most likely the interesting parts. |
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| 20:51 | <bathat> | i figured it was the mbr, so i overwrote the mbr many times |
| 20:51 | <ranix_irssi> | you'd think the project would get more static about that from the ubunty losers |
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| 20:51 | <bathat> | but i still don't understand why testdisk won't work anymore |
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| 20:51 | <peterS> | one last annoying bx quit message from you, eh? (: |
| 20:51 | <weasel> | bathat: because you destroyed the filesystem on that partition |
| 20:51 | <ranix> | I like some of the bx quit messages |
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| 20:52 | <weasel> | bathat: now testdisk - whatever that is - doesn't have any clue anymore what's on your disk |
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| 20:52 | <ranix> | at least maybe I will figure out how to make irssi log things |
| 20:52 | <bathat> | that makes sense |
| 20:52 | <ranix> | bitchx might not even have logging. Its documentation looks like a blind howler monkey wrote it |
| 20:52 | <bathat> | so the only option now is probably professional data recovery? |
| 20:52 | <weasel> | "restore from backup" |
| 20:52 | <bathat> | i wonder why it worked the first time though... |
| 20:53 | <bathat> | weasel, unfortunately, i have no backup |
| 20:53 | <bathat> | i should have mirrored the drive to another when i first had the opportunity |
| 20:53 | <weasel> | because you hadn't destroyed the filesystem then |
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| 20:53 | <peterS> | ranix: /set autolog = yes /set autolog_path = ~/irclogs/$tag/$0.%Y-%m this is what I have. thus I get ~/irclogs/oftc/#debian.2007-07 for example |
| 20:53 | <weasel> | so it looked at the first bytes of the first partition, read that filesystem info, and saw that that filesystem thinks its X bytes long |
| 20:53 | <ranix> | nifty. Thanks peterS |
| 20:54 | <peterS> | ranix: after you've issued those two /set, you have to /save to save your config (~/.irssi/config) |
| 20:54 | <weasel> | then it went to that offset, looked there and found another filesystem header |
| 20:54 | <weasel> | or something like that |
| 20:54 | <bathat> | so is there any way to restore the drive to its previous state on my own? |
| 20:54 | <weasel> | how many partitions did you have anyway? |
| 20:54 | <weasel> | you can always guess how you partitioned it |
| 20:54 | <peterS> | ranix: hmmm, without the = in those /set commands |
| 20:54 | <ranix> | bathat: it's not a five-dimensional machine you know |
| 20:54 | <ranix> | it can't travel backwards through the fourth dimension |
| 20:54 | <bathat> | eight, including swap |
| 20:55 | <bathat> | i still have all the partition information, which i had copied into a post |
| 20:55 | <bathat> | but i tried recreating it and... nothing |
| 20:55 | <bathat> | the partition table, that is |
| 20:56 | <bathat> | i even tried writing testdisk mbr code but i couldn't boot |
| 20:56 | <ranix> | if you still have the exact partition table with the exact sizes you should be able to recreate it and still have access to the data there |
| 20:56 | <ranix> | assuming the filesystem is still intact |
| 20:56 | <weasel> | which at least sda1 isn't |
| 20:56 | <weasel> | whatever was on there |
| 20:56 | <bathat> | why wouldn't the fs still be intact... |
| 20:56 | <weasel> | because you overwrote the first few bytes with crap? |
| 20:56 | <bathat> | but the others should be intact, right? |
| 20:56 | <ranix> | that will do it |
| 20:56 | <weasel> | yea |
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| 20:57 | <bathat> | that will do it, as in screw up the whole filesystem? |
| 20:57 | <ranix> | that will screw up the filesystem on that partition, yes |
| 20:57 | <bathat> | so what about all the others? |
| 20:57 | <ranix> | there is a seperate filesystem on each partition, with a seperate journal, et al |
| 20:57 | <bathat> | yeah, so do i just not recreate that partition? |
| 20:57 | <ranix> | sometime, rm -r .* in /home |
| 20:58 | <ranix> | should hit .. and everything, and royally screw up everything |
| 20:58 | <bathat> | since it's messed up |
| 20:58 | <ranix> | but it won't go to another filesystem |
| 20:58 | <bathat> | yeah, that makes sense |
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| 20:58 | <ranix> | play with mount, it's an enlightening experience |
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| 20:58 | <ranix> | also, installing BSD a couple of times helps |
| 20:59 | <ranix> | bsd disklabels are fairly confuzzling |
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| 20:59 | <Guest120> | hello |
| 20:59 | <ranix> | when you are messing with filesystems and testing disks and crap like that you should do it in a sandbox like vmware |
| 21:00 | <ranix> | if you're just dicking around to learn |
| 21:00 | <bathat> | i know... it was a stupid thing to do, but i can't worry about that anymore |
| 21:00 | <Guest120> | i said hello |
| 21:00 | <ranix> | reminds me of when I was 12 and deleted io.sys in windows 3.11 trying to change the login screen |
| 21:01 | <ranix> | Guest120: hello, would you like a cracker? |
| 21:01 | <Guest120> | ok |
| 21:01 | <weasel> | Guest120: we saw it. do you expect 300 people to answer? no. good. then let it me. |
| 21:01 | <weasel> | s/me/be/. |
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| 21:01 | <Guest120> | im new |
| 21:01 | <weasel> | apparently :) |
| 21:02 | <Guest120> | oops |
| 21:02 | <ranix> | win |
| 21:02 | <Guest120> | gotta say i do like linux |
| 21:02 | <ranix> | perhaps you came from #ubuntu |
| 21:03 | <nichos> | hi all, i just switched to x.org, now when i startx, i get "creating new authority file..." then, "xinit: server error" |
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| 21:03 | <Guest120> | debian |
| 21:03 | <ranix> | well you're in #gentoo right now |
| 21:03 | <ranix> | cflags just kicked in, vroom vroom |
| 21:03 | <weasel> | ranix: ? |
| 21:03 | <nichos> | any ideas? |
| 21:04 | <weasel> | ranix: what are you talking about? |
| 21:04 | <ranix> | weasel: sorry, I am posessed by a troll |
| 21:04 | <weasel> | stop? |
| 21:04 | <Guest120> | laters |
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| 21:04 | <ranix> | mission complete |
| 21:05 | <bathat> | that perfectly explains why testdisk was able to pick up the partitions the first time, since i had never even deleted the mbr |
| 21:05 | <bathat> | and it also explains why it all of a sudden stopped working when i ran SuperGRUB CD |
| 21:05 | <weasel> | ranix: getting rid of new people is not the mission here. |
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| 21:11 | <nichos> | hi all, im trying to startx after upgrading to xorg, all im getting is xinit: server error |
| 21:11 | <nichos> | i dont see any logs in /var/log |
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| 21:12 | <tcsetattr> | it should leave a /var/log/Xorg.0.log; if not you have to question whether you have an X server installed at all |
| 21:12 | <nichos> | (relevent logs that is) |
| 21:13 | <nichos> | ~tell nichos about xorg |
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| 21:16 | <bathat> | btw, thanks weasel and ranix... you've really enlightened me |
| 21:16 | <bathat> | i have a much better understanding now of what is going on |
| 21:16 | <bathat> | now the trick is fixing it... maybe by mounting each of the partitions read-only |
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| 21:18 | <ranix> | if you rewrite the partition table you should be able to mount a chosen partition in another system no problem |
| 21:18 | <ranix> | i.e. just because sdb1 is borked doesn't meak sdb2 is |
| 21:19 | <ranix> | fsck might even be able to salvage sdb1 |
| 21:19 | <ranix> | if you only overwrote the journal you could be lucky |
| 21:22 | <ranix> | !lame |
| 21:22 | <dpkg> | Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder. Debian does not distribute LAME due to patent and infrastructure issues. Binary packages are available from <debian-multimedia> or <rarewares>. Upstream sources, with build instructions for Debian at http://www.mp3dev.org/ or http://lame.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:22 | <bathat> | i tried fsck and mke2fs -b num, or whatever, to use a backup superblock |
| 21:22 | <bathat> | but none of the backups were valid superblocks |
| 21:23 | <bathat> | i'm hoping /dev/sda1 was /var or some pretty useless partition |
| 21:23 | <bathat> | it probably wasn't though... knowing the way things usually work out |
| 21:23 | <ranix> | !tell me about debian-multimedia |
| 21:23 | <bathat> | if it was /home, that would be really frustrating |
| 21:24 | <ranix> | would be unusual to have the first partition as home |
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| 21:24 | <bathat> | you're right, it would |
| 21:25 | <bathat> | that's encouraging |
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| 21:26 | <Stumbles> | hi, i'm looking for a program that will let me dial regular phones using my modem and let me talk to people using my headset mic |
| 21:27 | <Stumbles> | ... essentially just use my computer headset for the same job as i use my desk phone |
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| 21:29 | <tcsetattr> | hmm... mgetty-voice does the reverse operation (answer voice calls) but I don't see anything for the outgoing case |
| 21:29 | <tcsetattr> | asterisk, maybe, but that feels like overkill |
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| 21:31 | <litage> | is there a way to only flush a specific email from the postfix [defer] queue? |
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| 21:41 | <Stumbles> | thanks tcsetattr :) |
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| 21:47 | <nichos> | hi all, im having trouble with dual monitors and xorg. xorg starts, but one monitor just flickers colors. (It's not from the monitor) |
| 21:49 | <nichos> | both the monitors are showing up (serial number, model, etc) in the log |
| 21:49 | <nichos> | i don't see any errors or anything |
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| 21:50 | <kirlilili> | question: qtconfig doesn't work - where's the proper place to ask? Internet searching for ~1 hour didn't find answers for my error |
| 21:50 | <kirlilili> | sorry, had a timeout |
| 21:51 | <bathat> | i've nearly filled in all of /etc/fstab with the correct information |
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| 21:51 | <bathat> | but when i try to mount one of the partitions, it just says 'you must specify the filesystem type' |
| 21:52 | <bathat> | and if i specify ext3 partition, it says mount point /mnt/sdb10 does not exist |
| 21:52 | <locsmif> | then create the mount point |
| 21:53 | <bathat> | the mount point is just /mnt |
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| 21:53 | <locsmif> | you said: "it says mount point /mnt/sdb10 does not exist" |
| 21:53 | <bathat> | which exists |
| 21:53 | <venkatesh> | when did #debian gain "this is not #ubuntu" in the topic? |
| 21:53 | <bathat> | oh ok |
| 21:54 | <bathat> | i see what you mean |
| 21:54 | <bathat> | of course |
| 21:54 | <chealer> | venkatesh: bob2 added that about a year ago |
| 21:54 | <bathat> | wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb10 |
| 21:54 | <venkatesh> | haha, thanks chealer |
| 21:55 | <bathat> | dmesg|tail->VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb10. |
| 21:55 | <locsmif> | bathat, what does /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/sdb10 say? |
| 21:56 | <bathat> | /dev/sdb10: unknown volume type |
| 21:56 | <bathat> | i was discussing my problem earlier with ranix and weasel |
| 21:56 | <bathat> | i'm recreating partitions |
| 21:56 | <nichos> | what does this mean: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
| 21:56 | <locsmif> | and fdisk -l /dev/sdb | grep sdb10 |
| 21:56 | <kirlilili> | can anyone provide help with QT library dependencies? |
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| 21:57 | <chealer> | kirlilili: just ask your question. |
| 21:57 | <bathat> | /dev/sdb10 8754 8765 96358+ 83 Linux |
| 21:57 | <locsmif> | nichos, you have no Direct Rendering Extensions, in other words: no 3f |
| 21:57 | <locsmif> | 3d* |
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| 21:58 | <bathat> | it's not necessary to reboot in order to update fstab, is it? |
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| 21:58 | <locsmif> | bathat, is that a 100MB partition?? |
| 21:58 | <bathat> | testdisk shows 'No EXT2, JFS, Reiser, cramfs or XFS marker' in between almost every partition |
| 21:59 | <locsmif> | bathat, no, it isn't |
| 21:59 | <bathat> | didn't think so |
| 21:59 | <bathat> | see, i wiped 512 bytes of /dev/sda1 on my original hdd |
| 21:59 | <bathat> | and i thought it was the mbr |
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| 21:59 | <bathat> | so one of my partitions is mangled |
| 21:59 | <kirlilili> | thanks chealer, moving on: I apparently have libqt3 and libqt4 installed on my computer. typing "qtconfig" gives the following error: "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries". error gives ~5 hits on Google, none relevant. ideas? i need to configure fonts in all QT applications, Xchat included; won't mind if there's a console way to do it. Thank you. |
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| 22:02 | <venkatesh> | have any of you been able to run fretsonfire under testing? |
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| 22:03 | <locsmif> | kirlilili, xchat is not a QT app |
| 22:03 | <locsmif> | afaik. |
| 22:04 | <chealer> | that's right... |
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| 22:06 | <kirlilili> | right |
| 22:06 | <kirlilili> | how about iceweasel? |
| 22:06 | <locsmif> | GTK |
| 22:06 | <kirlilili> | konsole is qt though, right |
| 22:07 | <kirlilili> | i've got microfonts in all of them |
| 22:07 | <kirlilili> | used to be able to fix that with qtconfig |
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| 22:07 | <chealer> | kirlilili: it's a KDE app, yeah |
| 22:07 | <kirlilili> | i'm going to go hunt the gtk fonts preferences file |
| 22:07 | <locsmif> | dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config |
| 22:07 | <locsmif> | (perhaps) |
| 22:08 | <kirlilili> | middle-button paste in console |
| 22:08 | <locsmif> | kirlilili, and and try to create a new user and see if that user has it any better |
| 22:08 | <locsmif> | yeah and* |
| 22:08 | <bathat> | if i were to format all the partitions to ext3 using gparted (on mirrored disk), what would that do? |
| 22:08 | <bathat> | would it wipe the data and format it as ext3? |
| 22:09 | <locsmif> | yes, assume data loss |
| 22:09 | <bathat> | that's what i figured |
| 22:10 | <locsmif> | and considering the fact it's going to be wiped |
| 22:10 | <bathat> | but right now, gparted says filesystem unknown for 90% of the partitions |
| 22:10 | <locsmif> | use gparted to repartition it into a sane layout (no paritions of 100MB in size) |
| 22:10 | <bathat> | i wiped the first 512 bytes of the extended partition, which all other partitions are under |
| 22:11 | <bathat> | would that bungle up all the underlying partitions... |
| 22:11 | <bathat> | i wouldn't assume so |
| 22:11 | <kirlilili> | ls |
| 22:11 | <bathat> | but i'm trying to restore the original partition table with the data |
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| 22:12 | <locsmif> | that seems like a lost cause, considering you seem to have completed and written back a failed attempt, making your chances at an actual recovery nil |
| 22:13 | <bathat> | but the partition table is identical to the original |
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| 22:14 | <locsmif> | bathat, ok, well as long as you can mount it, you can read/write it |
| 22:14 | <bathat> | i'm just curious what overwriting the first 512 bytes of a partition would do to the underlying partitions |
| 22:14 | <bathat> | unfortunately, i can't |
| 22:15 | <locsmif> | you mean: what overwriting the first sector of an extended partition index would do |
| 22:15 | <kirlilili> | thanks for your help |
| 22:15 | <bathat> | if i could just retrieve the files on my /home partition, i'd be pretty happy |
| 22:15 | <bathat> | locsmif, yes |
| 22:15 | <locsmif> | well, since the extended partitions are in fact a linked list, you lose them all, unless gpart can help you recover them by scanning the entire disk |
| 22:16 | <locsmif> | kirlilili, np |
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| 22:16 | <bathat> | the thing is... testdisk was able to recover the partition after i wiped the first sector of the extended partition |
| 22:17 | <bathat> | but before i wiped the mbr |
| 22:17 | <locsmif> | then, if you trust the guess gpart made, you can write the guess back to the extended partition index. If you judge the information provided by gpart wrongly, you have made the situation worse than it was, making it less likely to get your data back |
| 22:18 | <bathat> | it was testdisk i copied the partition structure from |
| 22:18 | <bathat> | gpart _did_ work at one point |
| 22:18 | <bathat> | but i understand what you mean |
| 22:18 | <locsmif> | bathat, at this point, i advise you to use some commercial forensic tool, like getdataback (windows) |
| 22:19 | <locsmif> | no idea if that will work, but perhaps more chance than gpart |
| 22:19 | <bathat> | i've never been successful in installing windows since i have the XP upgrade cd |
| 22:19 | <bathat> | i've wanted to try many of the windows data recovery apps, but i can't |
| 22:20 | <bathat> | i could keep trying to get winpe live cd to work |
| 22:20 | <locsmif> | like bartpe? |
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| 22:20 | <ALMN> | TITTIES |
| 22:20 | <ALMN> | NAO |
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| 22:20 | <bathat> | yeah, bartpe |
| 22:20 | <locsmif> | bathat, well |
| 22:20 | <locsmif> | you can also do: |
| 22:20 | <ALMN> | Der juden. |
| 22:20 | <locsmif> | apt-cache search forensic |
| 22:21 | <ALMN> | Der luftwaffe ist en mein hosen. |
| 22:21 | <Tom> | yer al jooish |
| 22:21 | <ALMN> | Mein juden ist unter mein toiletten. |
| 22:21 | <locsmif> | bathat: that should give you some results, but if it works, don't know |
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| 22:21 | <Tom> | al joo face |
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| 22:21 | <bathat> | i didn't know about these apps |
| 22:21 | <bathat> | wow, thanks |
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| 22:21 | <bathat> | i'm installing foremost |
| 22:21 | <ALMN> | alt+f4 for free help with .exe creation |
| 22:21 | <locsmif> | bathat, these are forensic toolkits, not specifically designed for data rescue i guess. |
| 22:22 | <bathat> | hmm |
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| 22:22 | <locsmif> | bathat, but go ahead, try it |
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| 22:22 | <locsmif> | anything better than resorting to windows |
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| 22:23 | <mabes> | hi all, I'm starting to try debian out.. and apt-get is telling me that it can't find the openssh-server package, any ideas? I was thinking I needed to add something to my sources.list file but I don't know what to add (this is fresh install from the net cd) |
| 22:24 | <bathat> | i tried photorec to recover deleted files |
| 22:24 | <bathat> | it wasn't able to recover anything from /home |
| 22:24 | <venkatesh> | mabes, what error are you getting exactly? |
| 22:24 | <mabes> | vebkatest: couldn t find package openssh-server |
| 22:25 | <mabes> | and when I do a apt-cache search openssh all I see is teh client package |
| 22:25 | <mabes> | I have done a apt-get update |
| 22:25 | <locsmif> | apt-cache policy openssh-server |
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| 22:26 | <bathat> | i'm assuming it's searching, but it just says Processing: stdin |
| 22:26 | <mabes> | that says it is unable to locate the package |
| 22:26 | <locsmif> | bathat, then it's not searchin |
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| 22:26 | <bathat> | hmm |
| 22:26 | <venkatesh> | what is listed in your sources.list? |
| 22:27 | <locsmif> | mabes, apt-cache policy openssh-server |
| 22:27 | <locsmif> | oh |
| 22:27 | <locsmif> | hmm |
| 22:27 | <bathat> | ok, it's working |
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| 22:28 | <locsmif> | bbl |
| 22:28 | <bathat> | i wonder how this compares to a professional data recovery tool |
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| 22:29 | <mabes> | sorry, got disconneted... my sources.list file has: |
| 22:29 | <bathat> | or getmydataback |
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| 22:29 | <mabes> | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main |
| 22:30 | <mabes> | and then some security ones as well |
| 22:30 | <venkatesh> | does it have a 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main' |
| 22:30 | <mabes> | ohh.. hmm.. that is commeted out |
| 22:30 | <venkatesh> | hah, uncomment it |
| 22:31 | <mabes> | it says the installer commeted it because it failed to verify |
| 22:31 | <mabes> | I can't belive I missed that, lol |
| 22:32 | <venkatesh> | o |
| 22:32 | <venkatesh> | *I've never seen the installer do that |
| 22:32 | <mabes> | there is goes.. thanks for helping me with such a dumb question |
| 22:32 | <mabes> | maybe the installer didn't have an internet connection at the time |
| 22:33 | <venkatesh> | np, good luck etching |
| 22:33 | <kirlilili> | guys, any quick ideas for gtk font configuration? |
| 22:33 | <venkatesh> | kirlilili, with regards to what? |
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| 22:34 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, xchat and iceweasel look horribly tiny |
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| 22:35 | <venkatesh> | using the default gtk font configuration? |
| 22:35 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, what is that - are you talking about fontconfig? |
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| 22:36 | <venkatesh> | no, the defaults from gnome-font-properties, for example |
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| 22:36 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, i don't use gnome - I use enlightenment e17 |
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| 22:37 | <venkatesh> | ok. I don't know if e17 has a fontconfig tool that changes the same setttings that gnome-font-properties does, but I suspect that it woul |
| 22:38 | <venkatesh> | (sorry, never used it, just heard good things) |
| 22:38 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, I know there is an underlying .rc file but I can't figure it out |
| 22:39 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, E17 blows the rest away. |
| 22:39 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, you can check some screenshots on www.get-e.org |
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| 22:40 | <venkatesh> | I just straced gnome-font-properties, looking for the rc file now |
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| 22:44 | <venkatesh> | can't find anything, sorry |
| 22:46 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, thanks much anyways! |
| 22:46 | <venkatesh> | good luck not shrinking it further |
| 22:51 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, it will be hard considering it's at ~6pt now :( |
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| 23:08 | <davidh> | hi |
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| 23:13 | <kirlilili> | venkatesh, I fixed my font issue: needed to generate .gtkrc-2.0 with some font specifications inside |
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| 23:54 | <Brudus> | Where can I go for help. |
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| 23:57 | <Brudus> | Has anyone had troubles with the .iso's on the site. I keep getting MD5 error. I got the latest MD5 file as well and it says they match. |
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| --- | Log | closed Fri Jul 27 00:00:20 2007 |
