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---Logopened Tue Aug 07 00:00:15 2007
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00:00<tzafrir_laptop>I have that as well, but no cpufreq under it
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00:00<alaya_>tzafrir_laptop: maybe it changed?
00:00<alaya_>seems like the power stuff changes all the time
00:01<tzafrir_laptop>the cpufreq directory in Documentation is quite recent.
00:01<tzafrir_laptop>checking powersaved now...
00:01<alaya_>tzafrir_laptop: i don't have cpufreq but kpowersave does set the scaling
00:02<tzafrir_laptop>I can't get cpufreq to run anyway
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00:03<alaya_>cpu MHz : 1333.000; cpu MHz : 1000.000
00:03<alaya_>cpu MHz : 2000.000
00:04<alaya_>actually its acting erratically - when set to "powersave" it actually goes up. set to "performance" it stays at 1000
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00:06<alaya_>god my cpu MHz is going up down up down
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00:07<tzafrir_laptop>bah. powersaved is intrusive
00:08<alaya_>ok set option "powered" -> "system performance" -> "performance" in kcontrol and now its staying at 2000
00:08<alaya_>no wonder the damn thing's been running a bit weird/slow lately
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00:10<manphiz>I think powersaving is beneficial, as it'll be a pure waste of energe to run on full power when the computer is idle, though there's still some power consumption.
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00:15<alaya_>wow i just discovered sysv-rc-conf
00:16<tzafrir_laptop>ah, and the powersaved manual tells me that I need to have /sys/devices/system/cpu*/cpufreq :-(
00:17<tzafrir_laptop>Back to suqare 1 , I guess
00:17<alaya_>its definitely changing here with kpowersave
00:18<tzafrir_laptop>yeah, and you have a custom kernel
00:20<jm_>Debian kernels have cpufreq enabled
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00:29<twb>Where can I go to discuss syslinux's vesamenu.c32 support? I'm trying to work out how to change the background image.
00:29<Supaplex>#debian-boot ?
00:30<kelmo^cc>think its deswcribed over at the knoppix.net forums a few times
00:30<tarzeau>does the apple mac firewire cameras work with debian gnu/linux?
00:30<kelmo^cc>s/w/r/
00:31<alaya_>tarzeau: i'd check the gphoto2 compatibility list.
00:31<tarzeau>alaya_: i mean webcam, not photo camera
00:31<twb>Never mind, I found it
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00:32<jm_>twb: there are some notes in README.menu and in the wiki on the syslinux page
00:32<anderson>ola
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00:32<alaya_>que pasa?
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00:33<tarzeau>!es
00:33<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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00:45<BobHartge>how do I get kdm themes to work in etch?
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00:45<kelmo^cc>BobHartge: install kdmtheme, find it in kcontrol near other kdm related stuff
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00:46<matthew__>How do I set a DNS server in /etc/network/interfaces?
00:47<blarson>matthew__: You set it in /etc/resolv.conf
00:47<kelmo^cc>matthew__: you need resolvconf; zless /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/README.gz
00:48<kelmo^cc>blarson: you can set it via /e/n/i too, with resolvconf
00:48<kelmo^cc>though finding out exactly how could be easier
00:49<matthew__>I can't figure out how to change the DNS server on my modem
00:49<jm_>people who use zless should read about lesspipe ;)
00:49<matthew__>see, I can work out how to get it to set static IP's from MAC's, but not how to change the damn DNS server
00:49<matthew__>my ISP's is sucking
00:49<kelmo^cc>ah, vim works for me, but is not globally welcome ;-)
00:49<matthew__>badly
00:49<alaya_>i thought less can now handle .gz docs. mine does
00:49<matthew__>and everything is resolving to 1.0.0.0
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00:49<phorce1>running Debian on a Sun E450. Installed a SATA card. The Sparc has no clue it is there while in the OBP doing a probe-scsi. When the linux kernel fires up it grabs it as the FIRST SCSI controller. That makes the SATA drive become /dev/sda which is not how it was installed so things get freaky. Any way to make Debian (the kernel) move it down so the SATA drives are added at the end of the chain during boot? Actually, I'd like ANY new drives added to the end of
00:50<jm_>phorce1: you can rely on udev rules to rename devices as you wish
00:50<matthew__>kelmo^cc: that file doesn't exist.
00:51<jm_>phorce1: alternatively, make it modular and load the module at the end, or simply rely on UUID/label based mounting for /
00:51<kelmo^cc>matthew__: "you need resolvconf", meaning you need to install it if not already
00:51<matthew__>aah
00:51<matthew__>whoops
00:52<hachi>baloo: can I help you with something?
00:53<phorce1>OK, thanks. I'll have to read up on 'special uses' of udev. First box I've built with this many open drive slots that are all 'jumperless' scsi based. Spent 30 minutes poking around trying to get the PCI framebuffer card to do a proper resolution in console as well.
00:54<jm_>yeah E450 is huge compared to your average PC
00:55<Supaplex>baloo: uh why the ping?
00:55<hachi>Supaplex: I think they're probing us or something
00:55<phorce1>jm_: ;=) neat toy though. Especially with the addition of a working SATA controller. It is fully loaded as far as other hardware goes. 4 x 480MHz CPUs and 4G of RAM.
00:56<phorce1>Supaplex: pinged me too.
00:56<Supaplex>!ops baloo = ctcp ping annoyance
00:56<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: supaplex complains about: baloo = ctcp ping annoyance
00:56<phorce1>rude
00:56<Supaplex>if they care. :)
00:56<Supaplex>(they=ops)
00:56<phorce1>and rude=baloo, not Supaplex
00:57<jm_>phorce1: nice, I didn't know Linux for SPARC does SATA too, very handy because SATA disks are still much cheaper (and bigger) than SCSI disks
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00:57<Supaplex>jm_: but scsi is more reliable :)
00:57<jm_>on that note, I'll try to get oru company to write off our Blade 150 with 1G of RAM and use that for my router ;)
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00:58<jm_>Supaplex: probably not if you buy high-end SATA disks with 5 year warranty
00:58<phorce1>I'm planning to use the SATA for a big media server RAID. Data that I don't want to lose will be on the SCA disks (although at NEW SCA prices all of the scsi disks will be seconds so reliability is still questionable)
00:58<alaya_>yeah i think 5 yr is like the standard now
00:59<jm_>not here, majority of the disks have 3 years, but you can buy the ones with 5 years warranty for say 10-15% more
00:59<phorce1>jm_: I hate to say the other distro name but gentoo keeps a VERY nice list of non-sun hardware that works on sparc machines. I'll dig up the URL. brb
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01:00<baloo>Lagging. Christ, don't get so worked up when someone's trying to test something.
01:00<jm_>phorce1: ohh I can figure it out from the kernel config, not a big deal (but it's always better to have actual confirmation that it works OK)
01:00<phorce1>http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/sparc/hwlist.xml
01:01<jm_>thanks
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01:01<phorce1>I bought what was listed as an SIL3112 on EBay for $10. Turned out to be an SIL 3114 (4 SATA ports instead of 2). Good deal.
01:02<Supaplex>nice.
01:02<Supaplex>I bought a few 4port ones to. they're 5vPCI only :-/ a touch annoying. (no 5v boards here)
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01:03<phorce1>I'll just keep watching for the 500G @ $90 deals on SATA drives now that I've tested it to work with a 250G I had lying around.
01:04<blarson>phorce1: geeks.com had some refurbs for about that.
01:04<phorce1>Supaplex: TheE450 has both 5v PCI/33 and 3.3v PCI/66 slots
01:05<Supaplex>this is pci-x, but still works in pci.
01:05<blarson>I guess my ultra-10/440 has a bad ram socket.
01:05<Supaplex>I have four :P
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01:06<phorce1>blarson: watch on slickdeals.net daily. Places like Fry's and Circuit City and Best Buy frequently sell off "new old stock" (unused but 6 or 8 months old) when it's time for them to make their contracted order from the manufacturers
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01:07<matthew__>fah
01:07<matthew__>I suck
01:07<Supaplex>TMI
01:07[~]Supaplex snickers
01:07<phorce1>Supaplex: Yeah, I'm going to get an Intel gigabit dual NIC for the 450 and I need to make sure it's 3.3V because all of the PCI/66 slots are 3.3.
01:07<Supaplex>kewl :)
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01:09<phorce1>I plan to feed the medi server stuff (audio to net-players and video via VLC) in-house only on one NIC port and the other will be Internet connected.
01:09<matthew__>On the 500GB drive note, I got mine for £60 inc shipping
01:09<matthew__>which is about $120 American.
01:10<matthew__>Gotta remember things are more expencive over here anyway
01:10<matthew__>nice western digital
01:10<matthew__>shame it died 3 days into its warrenty and I had to wait 14 days for a replacement
01:10<phorce1>$120 is near the current "not on sale" price for 500G now that single-drive 1TB drives are out.
01:11<matthew__>yeah, but its very cheap for over here
01:11<hachi>I bought 4 750GB drives on a whim last weekend
01:11<matthew__>£120 is more common for a 1/2TB disk
01:11<matthew__>:P
01:11<matthew__>hachi: I hate you ;;
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01:11<phorce1>ouch
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01:11<matthew__>ebuyer usually have good deals on
01:11<jm_>heh yeah, 500G is about 120EUR here
01:12<matthew__>mostly because they buy disks by the fuckton
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01:12<matthew__>they had 3500 500GB PATA disks in stock when I was browsing
01:12<koollman>jm_: where is 'here' ?
01:12<matthew__>I was all "Christ, did they send a container to Taiwan or something?"
01:12<jm_>koollman: Slovenia, Europe
01:12<matthew__><-- Oxford, England.
01:13<phorce1><--- Texas, U.S.A. (you should be able to tell by my ssllloowww "souther drawl" typing speed)
01:13<matthew__>hahah
01:14[~]matthew__ wants to move to sweden
01:14<matthew__>colder, hot girls, 100Mb internet, sane taxation
01:14<matthew__>:>
01:14<matthew__>AND SNOW!
01:14<matthew__>GLORIOUS GLORIOUS SNOW!
01:15[~]phorce1 refuses to live anywhere white stuff falls from the sky. I actually LIKE 90deg F @ 110% humidity.
01:15<matthew__>I hate it
01:15<matthew__>I really really hate heat
01:15<matthew__>I hate summer
01:15<matthew__>I hate warm
01:16<matthew__>I love rain
01:16<phorce1>I wouldn't mind living back on the Italian coast between Naples and Rome. Haven't back since the late 80's though.
01:16<matthew__>Eh
01:16<matthew__>My main problem with italy is its full of italians
01:16<matthew__>and pizza
01:16<matthew__>if I moved there I'd explode.
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01:17<phorce1>but "pizza" has a whole different meaning. I loved it. "Pizza" for every meal of the day with different toppings/fillings depending on which meal you were eating.
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01:19<phorce1>We keep this up and I'm going to have to go /away to grind some beans and make an (American sized) espresso
01:19<matthew__>so a bucket?
01:20<phorce1>16oz of espresso with just a touch of cool milk to avoid burns.
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01:20<matthew__>what is 16oz in real money?
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01:20<matthew__>I love the way its called "standard" where yet it has nothing really standardised about it at all :P
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01:21<phorce1>actually, about 12 ounces of espresso (8 "shots")
01:21<sigp239>How do I make an app startup when I log in?
01:21<matthew__>And a shot is around about a mouthfull?
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01:22<phorce1>sigp239: add a script for in it /etc/init.d and link it in the proper rc.x
01:22<Guest59>quit
01:22<Guest59>\q
01:22<sigp239>phorcel: There isn't a startup folder?
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01:22<matthew__>473ml
01:22<matthew__>sigp239: its easy
01:22<matthew__>go to Desktop -> sessions
01:23<matthew__>and then see the "startup programs" tab
01:23<phorce1>matthew__: 1.5 ounces "officially". (Even according to Italian Baristas)
01:23<matthew__>:P
01:23<sigp239>Do you mean "System --> Preferences --> Sessions"?
01:23<matthew__>sigp239: yeah
01:23<matthew__>phorce1: the init.d method is a bit.. overdone for something so small
01:24<sigp239>What do I put in the Command field?
01:24<matthew__>what do you want to starT?>
01:24<phorce1>I seldom run X -- console only
01:24<matthew__>phorce1: good man.
01:24<sigp239>matthew__: I want to start pidgin and liferea
01:24<matthew__>then you put "pidgin"
01:24<matthew__>and "liferea" :PP
01:24<matthew__>:P
01:25<matthew__>the same way you'd run it at the terminal
01:25<sigp239>Oh ok. I was looking for a menu so I could click the program.
01:25<phorce1>There are actually "Debian" ways to set it up from the console but I've gotten in the habit of writing the scripts myself and creating the links by hand.
01:26<matthew__>sigp239: meh
01:26<matthew__>learn more about the terminal
01:26<matthew__>you will learn to love it
01:26<sigp239>I'm ok at the terminal really
01:26<matthew__>its just... SO much faster than any GUI could ever be
01:26<sigp239>I just purposely try to see if there is a GUI way to do things.
01:27<sigp239>Because I already know it can get done in the terminal
01:27<matthew__>but then how would you implement it?
01:27<sigp239>It's like a way of measuring the "user friendly" progress of Gnome
01:27<matthew__>List all the apps in /usr/bin?
01:27<matthew__>but then you also get ls and all that cruft in there too
01:27<phorce1>I think 'update-rc.d' creats the links. (man update-rc.d) I don't know if there's a console program to create the scripts themselves in /etc/init.d
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01:27<sigp239>Same way that they implement when you want to add a program to the bat at the top
01:27<matthew__>so you'd require some sort of registry
01:27<sigp239>The "Add to Panel" thing
01:27<matthew__>which would be a 'bad thing'(TM)
01:28<matthew__>Oh.
01:28<matthew__>hah
01:28<matthew__>thats a good ide
01:28<sigp239>When you click "Add to Panel" there is an option "Copy a launcher from the applications menu"
01:28<matthew__>I guess you should submit a feature request to the Gnome people
01:28<sigp239>and then it just shows a list of all the programs in your app menu.
01:28<matthew__>yeah, I know
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01:29<sigp239>So yea, the "sessions" thing could do that too :)
01:30<matthew__>Tell the gnome people
01:30<matthew__>its a good idea, IMO
01:30<phorce1>Aww --- crap. I'm going to have to figure out what freaking parameters to use to create a Sun disk label for whatever SATA drives I use.
01:30<simonrvn>baloo: so ping one person, not 200+. it's just courtesy
01:31<simonrvn>baloo: or even the bot, or ther server
01:32<phorce1>baloo: and ask via /msg beforehand or tell why you pinged via /msg afterward. (Has baloo been de-voiced? I didn't see any conversation to which simonrvn is replying)
01:33<simonrvn>i /lastlogged it
01:33<phorce1>ahh
01:33<simonrvn>it was like an hour ago or something
01:34<sigp239>matthew__: Okay I told them lol
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01:34<phorce1>42 minutes
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01:37<phorce1>When messing around on Sparc architecture is there a way to make the Sun machine correct a disklabel outside of Linux? I think I have a couple of my SCA drives that have had the Sun "Whole Disk" partition removed and it would be nice to not have to try to locate the proper parameters to fake out the head/cyl entries for the proper disk size.
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01:39<jm_>phorce1: try asking on #sparc, or #debian-sparc (maybe on freenode if it doesn't exist here)
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01:40<phorce1> #debian-sparc is dead on both networks. I'll probably end up back in #gentoo-sparc trying to hide the fact that I'm running Debian. They're as rabid as we are about other distros asking them questions.
01:41<jm_>I know #sparc on freenode existed a couple of years ago
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01:41<phorce1>I'll try that. I'm using irssi so switching between is cool and easy. :-)
01:43<dondelelcaro>phorce1: if no one answers, you might try asking on debian-sparc
01:43<dondelelcaro>phorce1: IE, debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
01:43<klys>how can I get off block cursor back to 2-line cursor (vesafb)?
01:43<klys>it's only bothering me in one tty
01:44<phorce1>dondelelcaro: Heh -- i signed off of most of the debian-xxxx lists over a year ago when my inbound mail was approaching 2000 non-spam messages daily.
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01:45<dondelelcaro>phorce1: you don't actually have to subscribe, you can always follow using the archives or set Mail-Followup-To: so people will Cc: you.
01:45<phorce1>dondelelcaro: I may ask with a top-disclaimer requesting a CC: reply
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01:46<jm_>klys: try using \e[?x;y;zc sequence
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01:46<phorce1>all of the #xxx-sparc IRC channels are dead at the moment. I know the gentoo guys are around near mid-day my time
01:48<klys>jm_: TERM=linux ; escape code is not recognized
01:48<klys>I tried ?[0;13;15
01:49<phorce1>I'm done hacking at the box for the night. I still have to read up on using udev to make Debian keep the scsi drives in the /dev/sdX order I want them as I add disks. I have 20 drive bays to fill (16 SCA hotswap and 4 SATA that I should be able to make hotswap since I have correct +12, +5, +3.3 SATA power connectors)
01:49<jm_>klys: no, you used a wrong sequence, read VGA-softcursor.txt
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01:50<klys>better
01:50<phorce1>need to add an 'fbset' occurence to /etc/init.d to get the console set up properly for the times I'm sitting AT the machine rather than connecting with SSH like I'm ding now too.
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02:14<XXzz>hi all
02:15<XXzz>where do i find a list of comands for the console??
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02:16<dondelelcaro>XXzz: there literally isn't such a thing
02:17<XXzz>i know some but not all
02:17<XXzz>a little help please
02:17<XXzz>oh
02:17<dondelelcaro>XXzz: however, you can come close by examining all of the names of all of the executables of the directories listed in PATH.
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02:17<XXzz>how i do that?
02:17<dondelelcaro>XXzz: the exact set of which is present depends on the packages which have been installed. I have commands which are available to me which you probably do not have (and likely vice versa)
02:18<XXzz>mmm
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02:21<dondelelcaro>XXzz: something like for a in ${PATH//:/ }; do find $a -type f -perm +a+x; done;
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02:23<twb>You shouldn't need to loop that
02:23<twb>Just find ${...} ...
02:23<dondelelcaro>indeed, but I was thinking of something else first
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02:24<twb>However, you should be using IFS to be really safe
02:24<twb>(IFS=:; find $PATH -type f -perm +a+x) or thereabouts
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02:27<alaya_>dondelelcaro: that's a cool command
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02:28<alaya_>especially the PATH part
02:28<ingmar_>http://www.zyra.org.uk/os-air.htm :)
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02:30<alaya_>what is IFS?
02:30<twb>inter-field separator
02:30<twb>By default, it is whitespace
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02:31<dondelelcaro>except non-breaking-space.
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02:32<alaya_>i love staying up late and learning this stuff!
02:33<jm_>you can also use -perm '/+x' to match any bit
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02:35<mhash>if I am using slapd.d instead of slapd.conf, is there a debian way of starting the service where it ignores slapd.conf?
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02:45<alaya_>mhash: i don't know. edit the startup script to have it not source it?
02:45<alaya_>create your own startup script that ignores it?
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02:49<mhash>alaya_, looks like the only way, thanks
02:51<gsimmons>mhash: Just removing /etc/ldap/sldap.conf is sufficient. slapd will continue to use options defined in /etc/ldap/slapd.d/
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02:52<mhash>gsimmons, slapd's init complains and quits if we remove slapd.conf
02:52<gsimmons>mhash: Disregard, the init script is still picky about it. :( You'd need to disable the check for this file's existence.
02:52<manny>hello everyone
02:54<mhash>gsimmons, did that too and it runs various checks later on to figure out if slurpd should be enabled, etc. -- I think what alaya said is the way to go -- write a small one of our own
02:55<mhash>thanks
02:55<manny>anyone debin exp??
02:56<Berge>!tell manny about ask
02:57<manny>yes thx for response
02:58<manny>i have a problem using bluetooth.
02:58<gsimmons>mhash: You might be interested in the discussion in bug #411413.
02:59<manny>hello??
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02:59<Berge>manny: Explain the nature of your problem, and if someone is able and have time to spare, they'll answer (-:
03:00<manny>ok
03:02<manny>i am having problem using bluetooth.it work fine when i use knopix cd version.but it shows (no working adapter found) when i use it with hd version.
03:02<manny>i think there are some processes missing in hd version
03:02<mhash>gsimmons, thank you, will do
03:03<Berge>manny: Are you using Knoppix on your harddrive, or did you install Debian?
03:03<manny>i installed it
03:03<manny>debian
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03:08<manny>no clue?
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03:10<jm_>mhash: does it honour both slapd.conf and slapd.d if they exist?
03:10<manny>noone?
03:11<Internat85>hey how hard is it to bridge two network cards in debian?
03:12<gsimmons>Internat85: It's quite easy.
03:12<gsimmons>!tell Internat85 -about bridge setup
03:13<mhash>jm_ honor isn't really the right term, slapd.conf is generally specified to move towards a slapd.d config... if both are specified that it uses slapd.conf to generate slapd.d
03:13<mhash>running with both will mean changes in slapd.d won't be saved
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03:13<bcochofel>Hi, where can I find thunderbird 2 for etch?
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03:16<jm_>mhash: ahh then you can't make it use both by ahving empty slapd.conf
03:17<mhash>indeed
03:17<manphiz>bcochofel, perhaps the prebuilt package from mozilla will do.
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03:20<sigp239>bcochofel: Thunderbird project has closed up and they all moved to join with Evolution.
03:20<sigp239>just kidding
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03:21<bcochofel>sigp239: you scared me
03:21<amphi_>sigp239: heheh
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03:24<CJH>any know any linux hack portals/
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03:25<CJH>anyone on MEPIS?
03:26[~]amphi looks at the channel name
03:27<formorer>CJH: even if anyone is on mepis, this is the wrong channel
03:27<CJH>still mepis based anough
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03:27<sigp239>what does MEPIS offer that Debian does not?
03:28<amphi>debian is based on mepis? oh no!
03:28<streuner_>!mepis
03:28<dpkg>[mepis] a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system that uses KDE and includes NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. See http://www.mepis.org and/or visit #mepis and ask me about <Based On Debian>
03:28<streuner_>sigp239: wrong question
03:28<chuy>!tell CJH about hacker
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03:32<sigp239>streuner_: Why is that wrong question?
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03:37<eddie>can anyone help me out? I installed alsa from source the other day.... and now sound only comesout the left speaker , and I get audio i/o errors when trying to do more than one audio thing at once :S
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03:40<lanceallott>eddie: did u check to see if the `balance' slider was centered
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03:50<bohne>!wine
03:50<dpkg>i heard wine is packaged in the wine package. http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq. Stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. A buggy alternative win32 API, or a tasty alcoholic beverage.
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04:11<alaya_>eddie: why install it from source
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04:20<Aleksej>I've installed gurlchecker, and it crashes at some point during checking. http://delsoft.dyndns.org/tmp/gurlchecker-bugreport.txt What do I do next?
04:20<Aleksej>Does it need some other -dbg package? Is it a libc6 crash?
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04:21<jm_>where did it crash?
04:22<Aleksej>While checking http://deletesoftware.geekworld.dk/ , after 18 or more URLs, I think.
04:22<jm_>can't download that txt file here
04:22<Aleksej>hmm
04:22<Aleksej>jm_: what is your IP?
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04:22<jm_>Aleksej: it never reached you, I know that
04:22<Aleksej>(pm possible)
04:22<jm_>it's not your end
04:23<Aleksej>ah ok
04:23<jm_>try using some paste site
04:23<korpenkraxar>hi all! I've developed a small remote-control tool that I believe at least some Debian desktop users would benefit from. Who should I contact to propose it becomes included in the reps?
04:23<jm_>!rfp
04:23<dpkg>rumour has it, rfp is a Request For Package; see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, or a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: "
04:24<Aleksej>jm_: http://pastebin.mozilla-russia.org/89986
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04:29<jm_>Aleksej: it looks like it was in signal handler when that happened, possibly SIGCHLD since waitpid is mentioned
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04:31<Aleksej>jm_: it happened three times
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04:31<jm_>Aleksej: check BTS, submit a bug if you can't debug it on your own
04:31<Aleksej>on gurlchecker or?
04:32<jm_>well on the package that it contains the tool that crashes
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04:34<sl>hi everybody
04:34<sl>is there a way to install etch amd64 with a LSI MegaRaid 8208 ELP SAS controller ?
04:35<sl>if not can anybody recommend another controller to install on my machine ?
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04:36<twb>sl: that would be hardware raid, or fakeraid?
04:37<petemc>hardware
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04:41<sl>harware raid
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04:51<chomeop>can someone help out a noob with sources
04:51<chomeop>i've been searching the internets for a while regarding syntax. just doesnt make sense
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04:52<chomeop>anyone?
04:52<petemc>whats up?
04:52<jm_>!sources.list
04:52<dpkg>Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
04:52<chomeop>I have a few australian mirros
04:52<petemc>deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
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04:53<petemc>chomeop: compare what you msgd me to what i pasted
04:53<chomeop>was just doing that then
04:53<chomeop>thanks fro that. :)
04:53<petemc>np
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04:59<Zic>question about existence : why apt, aptitude, synaptic are both in C++ ? :)
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04:59<petemc>thats a question about existence?
04:59<Zic>maybe :>
04:59<petemc>existence is suffering, suffering is caused by desire
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05:01<eddie>... I have installed alsa-base etc and alsa-oss with the kernal image but im only getting sound out of my left speaker for some reason, could anyone help?
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05:02<petemc>eddie: tried adjusting the balance?
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05:02<petemc>i once bought new headphones before thinking to look at balance settings
05:03<eddie>petemc: yeah tried all sorts
05:03<jm_>balance on the amplifier?
05:03<eddie>not sure about the balance though
05:04<eddie>the balence is correct...
05:04<eddie>balance*
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05:10<eddie>any suggestions?
05:10<jm_>I never experienced not having sound on speakers balance wise, just front-rear issue, then again, it was easily possible to do if one messed with routing on emu10k chip
05:10<jm_>but that was in OSS days
05:11<eddie>It all started when I tried to install alsa from source to get my mic working....
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05:13<jm_>not sure, maybe try deleting /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
05:13<jm_>and you can also ask on ALSA mailing list
05:13<antgel>eddie: remove and re-add the snd_modules?
05:14<eddie>jm_: what are the specific names o the snd modules?
05:15<jm_>eddie: you shouldn't be installing things from source if you have to ask such questions -- lsmod|grep snd
05:15<antgel>eddie: you mean me, i think. lsmod |grep snd ?
05:16<eddie>jm_: Ive just always done things from the package manager..
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05:25<alex__>offtopic: anyone know a good system for backend control panels for webshoting + email + othershit?
05:25<alex__>such as cpanel, exim etc....
05:25<alex__>anyone know others?
05:25<Supaplex>freeside
05:26<Supaplex>it's one big pain in the @$* to setup, but I love it.
05:26<Supaplex>the app. not the pain in my $*@
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05:28<jm_>how abotu dtc?
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05:38<UK-Toker>hi everyone..
05:38<simon444>hi UK-Toker
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05:39<UK-Toker>hi, i have a problem with my box, i get Grub error 17,
05:39<UK-Toker>any suggestions where to look for help would apreciated.
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05:41<jm_>error 17 is cannot mount selected partition
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05:41<UK-Toker>i added a new drive, and made a 2gb swap partiton on it. it worked till i rebooted, but i think it may have something to do with not beeing auto mounted
05:41<UK-Toker>thanks jm
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05:42<UK-Toker>how would i either restor back to original config, or mount the partition from rescue mode.
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05:43<Cav>hi, can anyone help with large file systems? i have a 9Tb raid drive and i'm looking to see what the best system is to format it with?
05:44<jm_>well first get it to boot into your system
05:44<linux-fox>Cav:9Tb? so large
05:45<Cav>yes, 9Tb
05:45<Cav>its a backup server
05:45<UK-Toker>i can boot the system to rescue mode.
05:46<UK-Toker>from the debian inall dvd
05:46<UK-Toker>install*
05:46<Supaplex>Cav: I use 4MB ext3 ontop of lvm+striping myself. works for all my gb+ range tarballs. (and a small smattering of small files)
05:46<jm_>well yeah, but you should use GRUB command line, it will be easier to find out what is going on there
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05:48<Cav>yea, but there is no need to use LVM on the volume as the hardware raid controller does the job of presenting me with a 9Tb drive nicely. I just need to format it with something good!
05:48<EXPLOit>éà êðåâåäêî
05:49<EXPLOit>åñòü ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðèòü ìîæåò?
05:49<alex__>!arab
05:49<dpkg>from memory, arab is http://www.arabeyes.org, or #arabeyes
05:49<jm_>someone posted a comparision of fs performance (just bonnie) on RAID5 array (4x500G disks IIRC), you can find it on LKML
05:49<UK-Toker>thanks jm.
05:49<alex__>whats the kayword for arabs?
05:49<Cav>xfs you mean jm?
05:49<alex__>keyword*
05:49<jm_>alex__: it's cyrillic
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05:49<EXPLOit>russian áëÿäü
05:49<alex__>!ru
05:49<dpkg>rumour has it, ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
05:50<jm_>Cav: no, ext3, ext3, xfs, jfs and zfs were all included
05:50<Cav>ah sorry i misread what you said.
05:50<Cav>i'll have a look for it, thanks
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05:51<jm_>and I wanted to say "ext2, ext3, ..." :)
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05:54<UK-Toker>cant seem to find a way of gettin to grub command line.
05:54<UK-Toker>iv'e been searhing on the net.
05:54<jm_>press c when you see its menu
05:55<UK-Toker>ahh it dont get as far as the menu, it gets to loading stage1.5.
05:55<UK-Toker>then GRUB loading, please wait...
05:55<UK-Toker>error 17 and freezes
05:56<jm_>ahh right, bummer
05:56<jm_>does it also happen if you remove the new drive?
05:56<UK-Toker>ill try
05:56<jm_>alternatively you could simply try reinstalling GRUB
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05:57<UK-Toker>yes it happens the same way with the drive removed..
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05:57<UK-Toker>oks.. and i can do that from the debian install DVD?
05:57<jm_>sure
05:57<jm_>!fixmbr
05:57<dpkg>So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub"
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05:57<UK-Toker>thanks jm
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06:00<alex__>jm_: how abotu dtc? ->> ???
06:00<alex__>ive heard of freeside, but not dtc
06:01<alex__>does freeside allow user CP's?
06:01<jm_>alex__: I have no idea about them, someone mentioned it here once so that's why I remember it
06:01<gsimmons>!free whcp
06:01<dpkg>FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <ISPConfig>, <ispCP Omega> and <RavenCore>. Don't use <Webmin>.
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06:01<alex__>i remember trying out freeside like 2 years ago,
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06:01<alex__>ahh ok thanks gsimmons ill check em out
06:01<alex__>whats wrong with webmin?#
06:02<jm_>it's no longer in Debian
06:02<lupine>'tis out of date, IIRC
06:02<alex__>ah, newbs
06:02<alex__>rgr
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06:05<alex__>ah - DTC looks nice
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06:05<alex__>anyone use it before?
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06:06<antgel>!tell alex__ about anyone
06:06<Supaplex>!anyone use dtc
06:06<dpkg>No, no one uses dtc, not even the people who use it.
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06:13<Cav_>is the correct way to format a drive to xfs with #mkfs.xfs /dev/drive ?
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06:13<streuner>yes
06:13<streuner>just read "man mkfs.xfs"
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06:15<Cav_>thanks, but when i try that i get 'mkfs.xfs command not found'
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06:15<streuner>!find mkfs.xfs
06:15<jm_>!installit
06:15<dpkg>*** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get
06:15<dpkg>Debian Search of 'mkfs.xfs' (1): (/sbin/mkfs.xfs) in admin/xfsprogs.
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06:18<simon888>alex__, dtc = gplhost?
06:20<gsimmons>simon888: GPLHost is the name of one of the developers of DTC.
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06:22<simon444>alex__, dtc = gplhost?
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06:26<alex__>simon888, yes, yes
06:26<alex__>http://www.isp-control.net
06:26<alex__>looks fucking nice
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06:26<simon444>it is based on vhcs
06:26<simon444>a german whore
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06:27<berat>!paste
06:27<dpkg>Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
06:29<berat>hey
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06:29<berat>i have a problem with alien arena
06:29<berat>are there someone who experienced with alien arena
06:29<berat>pls check http://paste.debian.net/34155
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06:38<nil>hi
06:38<nil>is there a channel dedicated to the debian-installer?
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06:39<Maulkin>nil: #debian-boot
06:39<nil>not #installer, #d-i or #installer, already tested
06:39<nil>Maulkin: ah, ok, thanks
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06:51<alex_>simon444, know of a good one?
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06:52<ernests>te kaads ir?
06:52<simon444>alex_, the command line
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06:52<alex_>simon444, user cp?
06:52<simon444>!cli
06:52<dpkg>from memory, cli is a Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around, of course Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. an x86 assembly instruction Common Language Infrastructure (See mono or .net), or http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1
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06:53<ernests>how to install skype on ubuntu if i have tar.gz archive
06:53<ernests>ß
06:53<ernests>?
06:53<jm_>!ubuntu
06:53<dpkg>yes, ubuntu is <based on debian>. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu - See also <based on debian caveats>.
06:54<nil>hihi
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06:56<ablos>comment vous vous appelez?
06:56<simon444>!english
06:56<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, english is a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!!
06:56<alex_>!fr
06:56<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net.
06:56<azeem>!fr
06:56<simon444>lol
06:56<azeem>simon444: stop abusing the bot, please
06:57<simon444>azeem, how am I abusing it and your not?
06:57<azeem>simon444: the appropriate factoid is the language-specific help one, not the english factoid
06:57<simon444>azeem, I didn't know that was french so I did !english. You way later do !fr
06:57<simon444>did
06:57<azeem>simon444: if you don't know something, just keep quiet
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06:58<simon444>azeem, that isn't what I learned in school or the debian mailing list... but yeah
06:58<azeem>thanks
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07:38<jean11>has anyone expererienced mplayer crashing after couple of minutess and totem just having a blank screen.
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07:39<ntbnnt>not after i started using xmms
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07:41<jean11>ntbnnt: awhat do you mean xmms fixed your mplayer problem or you just changed to xmms
07:41<ntbnnt>both, jean11
07:41<ntbnnt>;)
07:41<jean11>ntbnnt: ok, thanks will try that
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07:47<jean11>ntbnnt: I am getting a device default. I have never used xmms but I think installing it with xmms-xmmplayer should do the trick no?
07:47<ntbnnt>it might
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07:52<joesph-x>hello
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08:07<juliank>dir2ogg users: 0.11~alpha2 in experimental needs testing. Channel to talk about dir2ogg: #dir2ogg on this network
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08:48<alex_>http://merkwork.com/images/LOL.jpg # LOL! :D
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08:54<JasonS>no thats not annoying to watch ewanm89_
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08:59<alex_>ops?
08:59<alex_>!ops
08:59<dpkg>somebody said ops was Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban.
08:59<stew>alex_: what?
08:59<alex_>ewanm89
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09:00<stew>alex_: /ignore ewanm89 JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
09:00<alex_>ty :)
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09:00<JasonS>or have stew boot him :)
09:00<ewanm89_laptop>stew: sorry, thunderstorm
09:00<ewanm89_laptop>sorry, thunderstorm
09:01<ewanm89_laptop>passed now.
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09:01<stew>or /ignore -mask *!*ewanm89@* JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
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09:01<alex_>ooooo ipv6
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09:02<ewanm89_laptop>As I have said, it was nature, thunderstorms, I'm afaik nothing I could do.
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09:04<C>Hi, can someone help me with #date. My two new servers both display the wrong time but are both set to the right location and time zone - do they or can they be automatically updated from the internet?
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09:05<stew>C: /msg dpkg ntp
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09:07<C>whats ntp?
09:07<frood>hey all
09:07<padski>C google ntp
09:07<padski>C: network time
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09:24<psychomantum>Hi
09:24<psychomantum>italiani?
09:24<JasonS>!it
09:24<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C'è anche il canale #linux-it là.
09:24<psychomantum>!it
09:24<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete irc.freenode.net (non irc.debian.org). C'è anche il canale #linux-it là.
09:24<psychomantum>tnx!
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09:30<Fill>Hey, I tried to change my umask in .bashrc, however new files created still get default 22 umask permissions, but when I type 'umask' in the console it shows me the new umask I set...
09:30<Fill>what is wrong?
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09:33<padski>Fill: what value are you setting to, what permissions do new files get ?
09:33<Fill>I'm trying to set my umask to 006
09:33<Fill>so new files would get 660 permissions
09:34<Fill>but they get 644 permissions
09:34<Fill>as if I were using umask 22
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09:35<padski>Fill: works for me here. I really dunno. what shell are you using ?
09:35<Fill>what shell?
09:35<Fill>How do I see that
09:35<Fill>I didn't change it
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09:35<Fill>it's the one that came with my debian installation
09:36<padski>Fill: that'll be bash then
09:36<Fill>yeah, probably
09:36<padski>Fill: I'm testing by using touch to create a new file
09:36<padski>Fill: you're not root are you ?
09:37<Fill>when I try it, I'm not as a root
09:37<Fill>but I'm the system admin
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09:38<pappu>hullo anyone there
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09:38<Fill>hey pappu
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09:38<pappu>can u help me with debian support for wifi cards
09:39<padski>Fill: sorry, I'm stumped.
09:39<Fill>I'm sorry pappu I'm a newbie like you
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09:39<Fill>lol
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09:39<gsimmons>pappu: We can point you in the right direction, but we'd need to know what wireless chipset you have in your system.
09:40<pappu>broadcom 43xx
09:40<gsimmons>!bcm43xx
09:40<dpkg>rumour has it, bcm43xx is the broadcom 43xx series driver; originally available as a patch at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/, it has been included in all kernels after 2.6.17-rc2. http://wiki.debian.org/BCM43xx
09:41<gsimmons>pappu: You'd want to read the information available at the links above. The driver is present in your system, but you will need to supplement it with firmwire you will be required to extracted from another (existing) driver.
09:41<gsimmons>s/extracted/extract/
09:41<Fill>•padski• I found something useful on the intenet
09:41<Fill>going to check
09:41<pappu>could u make it a bit more clear
09:41<Fill>thanks for the help anyway :]
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09:42<gsimmons>s/firmwire/firmware/
09:42<padski>Fill: if you find the answer I'd be interested to know
09:42<Fill>ok
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09:42<Fill>I'm searching
09:42<Fill>^^
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09:46<Fill>padski found
09:47<padski>Fill: tell
09:47<Fill>padski the problem was I was putting 'umask 6' in the .bashrc instead of 'umask 0006'
09:47<Fill>I tried to put 'umask 0006' and it worked
09:47<Fill>simple
09:47<Fill>lol
09:48<padski>Fill: strange. when I do 'umask 6' at the prompt and then do umask it tells me it is 0006.
09:48<Fill>yeah, in the prompt me too
09:48<Fill>and
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09:48<Fill>when i edit the .bashrc and wrote 'umask 6' at the prompt it showed me 'umask 0006' too
09:48<padski>Fill: I was going to mention the number of digits, but I checked that I figured I was just being pedantic :-)
09:48<Fill>but didn't work
09:49<Fill>lool
09:49<padski>Fill: thanks, learn something new every day :-)
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09:49<Fill>I'm glad I resolved it
09:49<Fill>:x
09:49<Fill>thanks for the help
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10:01<padski>Fill: you still about ?
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10:06<fxiny>default umask is set in /etc/profile
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10:15<DEBIAN>Привет всем))
10:15<padski>!ru
10:15<dpkg>hmm... ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
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10:16<DEBIAN>спасибо))
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10:17<simon444>DEBIAN, nyet
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10:18<padski>simon444: I think he was saying thank you :-)
10:20<simon444>padski, I got no idea what he was saying.
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10:21<wutbox>where can I learn how to set up a fileserver?
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10:21<DEBIAN>ppc...TyT Boo6IIIe russian people CuD9IT?))) Russian speak undestand??
10:21<stew>DEBIAN: /join #debian-russian
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10:27<padski>actually, I want to know why I can see cyrillic but not something that someone came in speaking earlier (arab?)
10:28<ben_goodger>you don't have an arabic font?
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10:28<padski>ben_goodger: that may well be it :-) but why do I have a cyrillic font ?
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10:28<ben_goodger>debian has loads of unicode fonts by default
10:28<fxiny>what for ?
10:28<stew>i'd hope not
10:28<ben_goodger>reading arabic and cyrillic, obviously
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10:29<stew>it would be silly to install loads of fonts by default
10:29<ben_goodger>well, I got about ten packages on the desktop task or otherwise
10:29<Zathras>Hi. How do I debug tftpd-hba ? Client does not work (does not see server?) and on the server I can see nothing in syslog,messages. Am I checking the wrong log on Debian Etch) or.... ?
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10:30<padski>Zathras: is the server listening on hte port (netstat -lpn)
10:30<fxiny>i cannot obviously read russiaa and arabic
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10:30<fxiny>guess if i care
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10:30<Zathras>padski, yes it is
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10:31<Zathras>The DHCP server however is on an other server. Is tftpd broadcasting or should I let DHCPd serve it's IP somehow?
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10:32<padski>Zathras: depending on what you are serving on the tftp server, I seem to recall there being options you can put in hte dhcp sever config
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10:33<Berge>Zathras: What are you trying to do?
10:33<fxiny>and i am a pretty open minded person
10:33<fxiny>:)
10:33<Zathras>I try to implement Windows RIS on Samba
10:33<Berge>Zathras: The DHCP server gives out IP-addresses, and optionally an next-server-directive, to instruct where the TFTP-server is.
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10:34<padski>Zathras: cool :-)
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10:34<Berge>Zathras: Ah. Take a look at Unattended (unattended.sf.net) if you need Windows installation stuff.
10:34<Zathras>http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/ris-linux.php
10:34<Berge>Zathras: (Not saying it's the one true solution, but it works for me.)
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10:35<fxiny>simon444: you silent today ?
10:35<Berge>We've got unattended Windows installation on netboot with Unattended.
10:35<simon444>lol
10:35<simon444>fxiny, msg?
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10:36<fxiny>simon444: what for part II . i bet you are moocoowing :)
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10:40<joesph_>hello
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10:47<wutbox>so If I want to use samba, can I use Hostnames instead of IP's
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10:52<simon444>wutbox, iirc yes
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10:54<stew>wutbox: yes
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10:57<anderson>como instalar modem pc tel no debian
10:57<anderson>?
10:57<simon444>!sp
10:57<dpkg>hmm... sp is troubled: you stats pimp!
10:58<JasonS>!es
10:58<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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11:05<Zathras>if I want PXE support (from/on another server then my dhcpd is on) what do I need minimum to enable this: group { next-server myip; host tftpclient { filename="w2k.0";}}
11:05<Zathras>where the name "tftpname" is random?
11:05<Zathras>is that sufficient or do I need more?
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11:06<qbit>allo
11:06<Zathras>hi
11:06<qbit>:)
11:06<qbit>how are ya, Zathras?
11:06<Le_Vert>any ipod users ?
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11:06<Zathras>ok. thx
11:06<Le_Vert>I'm looking for some helpp creating the proper udev rules
11:06<qbit>coo
11:07<Le_Vert>I tried tones of example, but hasn't managed yet to get the device node renamed
11:07<Le_Vert>what I'm trying to do is to create /dev/ipod_adam, using the sysfs serial number
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11:08<Zathras>Le_Vert, many hits on google. For instance: http://blog.perhat.com/?p=27
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11:08<Le_Vert>yes Zathras
11:08<Le_Vert>many hits but nothing that works ;)
11:09<Le_Vert>does udev restart + unplug/replug ipod should be enough ?
11:10<alex_>!free billingsystems
11:11<alex_>whats a good user cp billing system? :D
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11:12<Le_Vert>BUS=="scsi", SYSFS{model}=="iPod*", KERNEL=="sd?2", NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="ipod", MODE="0666", GROUP:="ipod"
11:12<Le_Vert>KERNEL=="sd?2" < what does it means exactly ?
11:12<Le_Vert>I guess my problem could be here
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11:12<Le_Vert>as my ipod shuffle do not have any partitions
11:12<Le_Vert>"/dev/sdc" is the whole fat partition
11:14<stew>Le_Vert: sd?2 would match sda2 or sdc2, you probably just want to make that sd?
11:14<Le_Vert>sd?1 should be the same I guess
11:14<Le_Vert>I just tried this
11:15<stew>Le_Vert: no, sd?1 is not the same as sd? ; sdc1 would be the first partition on sdc which has been partitioned, and sdc would be the entire disk on an unpartitioned disk
11:16<Le_Vert>okay ic
11:16<ranix>or the entire disk of a partitioned disk
11:17<ranix>you could dump sdc to sda, for example, including the partition table
11:17<ranix>sd? just represents the entire disk without worrying about partitions at all
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11:17<simon444>alex_, what are you trying to do?
11:18<simon444>run a web host?
11:18<Le_Vert>I guessed ?2 would mean two undefined chars.
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11:19<ranix>simon444: yeah, that's what he's trying to do
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11:19<Le_Vert>NAME="ipod%n" < is it supposed to work ?
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11:20<Le_Vert>my node is named ipod, I guess I would get ipod1
11:20<simon444>ranix, why? make a quick buck?
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11:20<ranix>simon444: hobby, I suppose
11:21<ben_goodger>herro
11:21<ben_goodger>how is ext4 in lenny at the moment?
11:22<gsimmons>!ext4
11:22<dpkg>well, ext4 is a filesystem that is backward compatible with ext3, but also adds new features such as support for volumes up to 1 exabyte (1024 petabytes) and added extent support. currently not supported by e2fsprogs (see bug #425477).
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11:24<alex_>simon444, yes
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11:26<simon444>alex_, free host?
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11:28<alex_>simon444, maybe, you know of a good billing frontend?
11:29<Le_Vert>brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 8, 32 2007-08-07 18:29 /dev/ipod_melissa
11:30<Le_Vert>BUS=="scsi", SYSFS{model}=="iPod*", KERNEL=="sd?", NAME="ipod_melissa", MODE="0660", GROUP="ipod"
11:30<Le_Vert>it seems the 'GROUP' option has not been used, any pointers ?
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11:32<stew>Le_Vert: does the ipod group exist in /etc/group ?
11:33<stew>Le_Vert: (does "getent group ipod" return a group? or nothing?)
11:33<Le_Vert>ipod:x:117:
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11:34<Le_Vert>well, that's not a real, problem
11:34<Le_Vert>I'll set ip 666
11:34<Le_Vert>s/ip/it/
11:34<stew>eek
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11:34<stew>the permissions of the beast
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11:34<Le_Vert>now I need to figure out how to restrict the rules to a specific serial
11:34<Le_Vert>because I have several ipods
11:35<Le_Vert>gandalf@thrall:~$ udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/ipod_melissa) | grep -i serial
11:35<Le_Vert>ATTRS{serial}=="000A2700112831CC"
11:35<Le_Vert>ATTRS{serial}=="0000:00:1d.7"
11:35<Le_Vert>gandalf@thrall:~$ udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/ipod_melissa) | grep -i model
11:35<Le_Vert>ATTRS{model}=="iPod
11:35<Le_Vert>etc
11:35<Le_Vert>so I wrote this rules :
11:35<Le_Vert>BUS=="scsi", ATTRS{vendor}=="Apple*", ATTRS{model}=="iPod*", ATTRS{serial}=="000A2700112831CC", KERNEL=="sd?", NAME="ipod_melissa", MODE="0660", GROUP="ipod"
11:35<Le_Vert>now it doesn't match anymore :(
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11:36<padski>what is the plural of ipod anyways ;-)
11:36<Kual>ipods :P
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11:37<Kual>one pod, two pods, so guessing it's the same for ipod
11:37<Le_Vert>arrgggg udev make
11:37<Le_Vert>makes me ill
11:37<Kual>just a noob suggesting, but is the group and name right?
11:38<Le_Vert>yep it is
11:38<Kual>ok
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11:38<Le_Vert>it seems I got something that works (for the serial)
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11:38<Le_Vert>by doing
11:38<Le_Vert>BUS=="usb", ATTRS{serial}=="000A2700112831CC", KERNEL=="sd?", NAME="ipod_melissa", MODE="0660", GROUP="ipod"
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11:38<Le_Vert>(drop vendor+model) and match on usb bus instead of scsi
11:38<Le_Vert>don't ask me why
11:38<Kual>ok
11:38<Le_Vert>I don't understand anything about what I'm doing :p
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11:39<Kual>but you've solved it now ?!
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11:39<Le_Vert>seems to be ok for a specific node for each serial number
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11:41<Kual>has anyone in here succeeded in installing Beryl?
11:41<Le_Vert>I did once (nvidia prop. drivers)
11:41<Le_Vert>with aiglx and so
11:41<Kual>cool!
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11:41<Le_Vert>each time I ask beryl to replace my windows decorator, all windows decoration went away
11:42<Le_Vert>(same issue with compiz :D)
11:42<Kual>gonna try it once I have internet on my debian pc, still trying to get my Speedtouch 120 USB adapter to work
11:42<Kual>trying it with ndiswrapper, but not succeeding
11:43<Le_Vert>Kual: do you think the group floppy of my nodes could be set by another rules
11:43<Le_Vert>?
11:44<Kual>yeah, who not?
11:44<Le_Vert>mmmmmmhh
11:44<Le_Vert>OPTIONS="last_rule" ?
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11:44<Kual>guess that would work fine
11:45<Le_Vert>worked
11:45<Le_Vert>hehe
11:45<Le_Vert>now it's done :)
11:45<Le_Vert>thanks Kual
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11:47<KeramiK>Hi all, I'm french, but I need help on debian. Does someone can help me ?
11:47<Myon>!fr
11:47<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net.
11:47<stew>KeramiK: if you have a question you can ask in english, please just ask it. if you want to ask in french, please /join #debian-fr
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11:49<Kual>Someone here got experience with using wireless device drivers from windows on debian using eg ndiswrapper ?
11:49<Kual>:D
11:49<KeramiK>Ok, Fonts are not clean on my screen, and when I visit a website it's difficult to read correctly. I've setting up TT Fonts but the result is the same
11:49<Le_Vert>I did Kual
11:49<Le_Vert>what's the problem ?
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11:53<Kual>Well, I don't really know
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11:53<Kual>I'm probably giving it the wrong driver...
11:53<ifvoid>KeramiK: is your screen operating on the correct resolution?
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11:55<Kual>I think I know which one to take now, gonna try it tomorrow... hope it works, then I will finally completely switch to Debian :D:D:D:D:D:D:
11:56<vicented>hi
11:56<Kual>hi
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11:57<KeramiK>ifvoid, my screen is operating with 1280*1024
11:57<KeramiK>it's a 19" large
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11:58<tamtam>hi :)
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11:58<tamtam>you know of a gui for xmms2, that immitates the look of good old xmms?
11:59<tamtam>s/mm/m/
11:59<tamtam>no
11:59<tamtam>damn :))
11:59<tamtam>i meant s/imm/m/
11:59<tamtam>i meant s/imm/im/
11:59<ravl>hello. i have a question about using a palm handheld with debian
11:59<tamtam>puh
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12:04<ravl>is there a way to read and maybe edit openoffice documents in a palm device?
12:04<fxiny>tamtam: gxmms2
12:05<tamtam>fxiny: oh, cool i'll try it
12:05<tamtam>fxiny: just tried esperanza, it was crap
12:06<tamtam>fxiny: but sound is good :)
12:06<fxiny>tamtam: i use xmms2 cli . it rocks
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12:06<tamtam>is it pure commanline, or ncurses?
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12:07<fxiny>pure cli . see if you like nyello
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12:07<tamtam>s/^.*?nl/ndl/
12:08<tamtam>s/^(.*?)nl/fxiny: $1ndl/
12:08<tamtam>yea
12:08<tamtam>fxiny: ah, ok -- fine :)
12:09<fxiny>tamtam: did yiu inslalled xmms2-client-medialib-updater and xmms2-plugin-icymetaint ?
12:09<Kual>g2g have dinner, cya later
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12:12<wutbox>is there a way to do google chat through the command line
12:12<tamtam>fxiny: icymetaint yes, no medialib
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12:14<ArdenS>Is anybody alive here? :)
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12:14<fxiny>tamtam: i do sqlite3 queries to medialib.db
12:15<ArdenS>Can anybody answer my little question? :)
12:15<fxiny>tamtam: and i connect to streampripper ;)
12:16<fxiny>ArdenS: just ask and see by yourself :)
12:16<ArdenS>OK
12:16<tamtam>fxiny: nyello is neat, didn't like gxmms2
12:16<gsimmons>wutbox: Google Talk uses the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), so you can use any Jabber client. You might be interested in the 'cabber', 'freetalk' or 'mcabber' packages.
12:16[~]Supaplex uses psi
12:16<ArdenS>I want to install Debian from hard drive without CD-ROM or floppy :)
12:17<ArdenS>and it can't find iso image :(
12:17<KeramiK>I've got a problem with my fonts. Display is bad and difficult to read. Does anyone can help me ?
12:17<fxiny>tamtam: i don't use gxmms2 , nyello looks nice just for a couple of hours
12:17<gsimmons>!tell ArdenS -about i-g
12:17<fxiny>psi ?
12:17<simon444>NEW IMAC!
12:17<gsimmons>ArdenS: Links to images and hard drive installation procedures are listed in the Installation Guide.
12:17<tamtam>fxiny: i allready tried it with some stations, it's ok, but i prefer dc to station or my hd
12:18<tamtam>fxiny: it seems that xmms2 lacks a nice gui atm
12:18<tamtam>fxiny: thanks for your help
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12:19<tamtam>fxiny: i've to go shopping for food now :P
12:19<tamtam>fxiny: bye
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12:19<fxiny>tamtam: get use to the cli , you'll love it : i am totally addicted to it ;)
12:19<fxiny>ops
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12:20<fxiny>what's that psi ? a xmms2-gonzo-locybe version ? ;)
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12:22<fxiny>simon444: anything with a "i" hat on is a prank :P
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12:23<andyp>hi
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12:24[~]fxiny wonders if i-glesias j-ulio is a reptilian
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12:25<andyp>I noticed after installing alsa and alsamixer that a message appeared twice "the update -modules common is depreciated
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12:25<fxiny>i-gnucius save us all from the i-spam
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12:31<the_bull>hey all!
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12:31<the_bull>do u knw abt nything certification course in debian like RHCE of redhat?
12:32<the_bull>i know abt Ubuntu, but don`t know how much effective it is!!!
12:32<stew>the_bull: there is no such certification for debian
12:33<the_bull>stew, do u knw anything abt Ubuntu certification? how much valuable is it? With compare to RHCE?
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12:35<stew>the_bull: i don't know. perhaps you should try asking in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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12:38<slownix>I cant seem to get the scroll wheel to work in any wm
12:38<slownix>=/ any ideas?
12:38<slownix>Oh and hello
12:39<slownix>:D
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12:40<slownix>what should I ask dpkg about? Pertaining to mouse wheels and scrolling?
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13:06<slownix>ofund it
13:06<slownix>sid config file but same syntax almost
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13:15<simon444>http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/townhall07/appletownhall07117.jpg
13:15<simon444>wow
13:15<stew>simon444: is that somehow debian related?
13:15<simon444>err wrong channel sorry
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13:56<syst3m>hi
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14:03<jakub>hi.i have a request.can anyone tell me how can I know password for root on debian live cd?
14:03<panthera>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAW
14:03<panthera>hrnm
14:03<panthera>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ
14:04<jakub>thanks
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14:04<knoppix_>lllllllllllllllll
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14:05<repair-man>ok...
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14:09<tarzeau>hi
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14:14[~]streuner kicks tarzeau into his nuts ;-)
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14:15<jakub>Tobi: Tobiasz?
14:15<tarzeau>streuner: wtf?
14:16<jakub>Tobi:sprechst du deutsche?
14:16<streuner>jakub: speak english!
14:16<Tobi>Hi, ja!
14:16<Tobi>deutsch
14:16<suiside>!ge
14:16<dpkg>[ge] Georgia
14:16<makke>!de
14:16<dpkg>from memory, de is deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net und irc.freenode.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net and freenode)
14:17<jakub>Tobi:i live in Poland, it is not so far:)\
14:17<Tobi>i know, jakub
14:17<jakub>ech supper:)
14:18<jakub>echt
14:18<jakub>i think
14:18<Tobi>this is the first time i've been used a irc channel, so i dont' know how to handle this one.
14:18<Tobi>sorry
14:18<streuner>tarzeau: just fun :-P
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14:19<jakub>ok that was in deutsch:)
14:19<streuner>jakub: speak english!
14:20<jakub>streuner:ok!
14:20<jakub>:)
14:20<max>anyone tell me a good place to start if I want to set up a fileserver with Samba?
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14:20<syst3m>can i speak spanish, streuner?
14:20<jakub>ola
14:20<Maulkin>syst3m: no
14:20<syst3m>why?
14:20<streuner>!es
14:20<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
14:21<Maulkin>This is an English channel
14:21<jakub>syst3m:ola!
14:21<syst3m>ok
14:21[~]JasonS sees into the future
14:21<syst3m>hi jakub
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14:21<jakub>hi
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14:21<streuner>hi Maulkin :-)
14:21<jakub>oj wy jo
14:22<jakub>ok thank for helping me.bye
14:22<Maulkin>This is an English channel for Debian support. Please keep it that way. Random chatting can be done in #moocows, and language specific channels can be found by "/msg dpkg yourcountrycode". Thanks.
14:22<syst3m>!es
14:22<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
14:23<streuner>Maulkin: how is life in scotlond? do you live in edi?
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14:23<Maulkin>streuner: --> #moocows :)
14:23<streuner>ic
14:23<Maulkin>streuner: or even debian-devel :)
14:24<streuner>well, you are quite calm there :-)
14:25<repair-man>brb
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14:25<kesio>!list
14:25<dpkg>one warez list being sent to kesio
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14:40<vortek>woop got it all working
14:40<vortek>Icewm and xfce4 are nice
14:40<vortek>for small machines
14:43<vortek>g
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14:49<bighornram>can anyone point me to some info about building a rtl8187 module?
14:50<streuner>!listkeys 8187
14:50<dpkg>Factoid search of '8187' by key (1): rtl8187.
14:50<streuner>!rtl8187
14:50<dpkg>[rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless driver, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. The main page is at http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/, see http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing#Debian.2FUbuntu for installation instructions.
14:50<streuner>argh
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14:56<bighornram>I installed a module source package just the other day, now i go to install system with whole harddrive and can't find it. I'm getting ieee80211 problems from that info.
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15:14<baloo>If I ever work tech support again, I'm going to claim I'm a gastroneurologist
15:14<baloo>"I work with people who have their head up their ass."
15:16<Supaplex>you need a buzzword for their condition
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15:21<ranix>I have an internets
15:21<ranix>what do I do with it
15:21<Supaplex>call baloo for help
15:21<Supaplex>:-D
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15:22<ranix>It's not a big truck
15:22<ranix>I can't just dump something on it
15:22<ranix>I don't know what to do with it
15:22<baloo>Supaplex: How does "Rectocranial inversion" sound?
15:22<ranix>512k up, 1m down
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15:22<ranix>it's just sitting there with a 1.1ghz athlon running Etch
15:23<army>only 1m?
15:23<Supaplex>baloo: sounds like a plausable explination of ctcp pinging the masses :)
15:23<ranix>well, yeah only 1m
15:24<baloo>Give it a rest. You've now spent more bandwidth bitching about it than the damn ping did.
15:24<ranix>but the up matters more than the down anyway imo
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15:24<baloo>Which happened yesterday, so quit living in the past.
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15:26<ranix>what is ctcp ping
15:26<lupine>that
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15:29<tV2>hi
15:29<tV2>Has Anyone mounted gmailfs in Debian?
15:30<Supaplex>why bother. gmail is tEh slow
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15:30<Supaplex>usb 1.x floppy drives would be just as fast. (imo)
15:31<tV2>slow?
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15:33<simonrvn>baloo: remember the past, live in the present, prepare for the future
15:34<simon444>who will be the first one to install debian on the new iMacs
15:34<simonrvn>baloo: thanks for triggering that memory for me
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15:35<tV2>simon444, new iMacs using core 2 duo, right?
15:36<simon444>core 3
15:36<tV2>3? quad?
15:36<simon444>this one: http://www.engadget.com/gallery/apples-new-imac-and-keyboard-first-hands-on/343539/
15:36<simon444>tV2, the ones released today
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15:47<Maulkin>How are those 'new'?
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15:52<simon444>http://www.engadget.com/gallery/apples-new-imac-and-keyboard-first-hands-on/343548/ http://www.engadget.com/gallery/apples-new-imac-and-keyboard-first-hands-on/343546/
15:52<simon444>Maulkin, ^^
15:54<Maulkin>yes, Still looks pants though
15:55<jobbe>I need your help.. i have setup a debian server and im using it as a file share serve.r but i wanna password protect my files. so only people that know the password can acces the files.. i use samba for my file share
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15:56<Supaplex>jobbe: /etc/samba/smb.conf man smb.conf
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15:57<jobbe>o
15:57<jobbe>k
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16:06<no_mercurial>Hi everyone.
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16:06<no_mercurial>Is anyone installed python2.4 on Debian Sarge?
16:07<no_mercurial>Sorry, has anyone installed python2.4 on Debian Sarge?
16:07<Myon>python2.4 2.4.1-2sarge1 | oldstable | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
16:07<kevc>what about it?
16:07<no_mercurial>Unfortunately, when I try to get it, I get this error:
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16:08<no_mercurial>Err ftp://128.135.136.147 stable/main python2.4-dev 2.4.1-2
16:08<no_mercurial> Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/pool/main/p/python2.4/python2.4-dev_2.4.1-2_i386.deb: No such file or directory '
16:08<Myon>you need to apt-get update
16:08<no_mercurial>The IP address is debian.uchicago.edu.
16:08<no_mercurial>I used apt-get install... Should it make a difference?
16:09<Myon>yes
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16:09<no_mercurial>Ok... let me try that.
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16:11<no_mercurial>Sadly, didn't work.. maybe no package installs are working at all.
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16:11<no_mercurial>It tried to update 48 packages and failed to get the file on all of them.
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16:11<Myon>sarge has version 2.4.1-2sarge1, your package database is outdated
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16:11<Myon>(or your mirror is broken)
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16:12<no_mercurial>Oh, I see. So I need to update my cache..
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16:13<jobbe>hello i wanna install windows on my laptop and i alo wanna install debian.. would you recommend that i give debian 5 gb hdd space and i give windows 35 gb?
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16:13<jobbe>alo = alsp
16:13<jobbe>also
16:13<Myon>jobbe: that's entirely your personal taste
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16:13<no_mercurial>Thank you, Myon, it seems to be fetching the files now.
16:13<jobbe>hehe i just wanna know if debian can run on 5 g space
16:14<Myon>it can
16:14<stew>jobbe: the minimum is somewhere around 1/2 g
16:14<jobbe>okay thanks
16:14<Myon>a full-fledged desktop install should run fine with 2G
16:14<Myon>the very minimum is around 140M, but that's no fun
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16:15<jobbe>hehe i have a debian server also
16:15<jobbe>hehe
16:15<jobbe>but that is only runnin in a terminal
16:15<jobbe>well cya in 60 min im going to format my computer
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16:17<no_mercurial>..If one typically ssh's into their debian box, what the best choice for debconf? dialog/readline/noninteractive?
16:17<Myon>dialog
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16:17<no_mercurial>Ok, thanks.
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16:28<no_mercurial>After installing python2.4, how come "python -V" says it's v2.3.5?
16:29<no_mercurial>I tried "upgrade python2.4" again, but it says "0 packages to upgrade"
16:29<stew>no_mercurial: you are running sarge?
16:29<stew>aka 3.1?
16:29<no_mercurial>Yes, I'm running Sarge.
16:30<no_mercurial>Hmm.. Wait.
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16:30<stew>no_mercurial: yeah, the default python in sarge is 2.3. its not recommended that you change that. if you have a script that requires 2.4, then change the shebang to #!/usr/bin/python2.4
16:30<no_mercurial>I just cat'd debian_version and it said 4.0
16:30<stew>no_mercurial: you are probably mixing sarge and etch then
16:30<no_mercurial>Maybe when I tried to install python2.4, it upgraded me?
16:31<stew>no_mercurial: it would be recommended that you upgrade to etch, which has 2.4 as the default python. /msg dpkg sarge->etch
16:31<stew>no_mercurial: what version does "dpkg -s python" report?
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16:32<no_mercurial>dpkg reports Version: 2.3.5-2
16:32<stew>no_mercurial: right, so you have the python package from oldstable, but the base-files package from stable, its not recommended that you mix these two, you should probably consider finishing the upgrade to stable
16:32<no_mercurial>I used to know how to switch from sarge->etch... but I've forgotten now!
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16:33<stew>no_mercurial: you follow the procedure in chapter 4 of the release notes: /msg dpkg sarge->etch
16:35<no_mercurial>Hmm.. So it looks like I updates sources.list and apt-get upgrade.
16:35<no_mercurial>Sorry, apt-get update.
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16:42<Myon>no_mercurial: you need to run "python2.4"
16:43<Myon>sarge's default python is 2.3
16:43<no_mercurial>Thanks Myon. I had tried that, but it's not in the path.
16:44<zobel>Myon: see you later
16:44<no_mercurial>I decided to apt-get dist-upgrade.
16:44<no_mercurial>Thanks for your help.
16:44<no_mercurial>I appreciate it.
16:46<stew>no_mercurial: that's not recommended
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16:48<ieugen>can anyone tell me how to re-install/re-configure the fonts? i can't see the dejavu fonts anymore?
16:49<ieugen>i had the artwiz-cursor installed and messed things up..
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16:56<newdude>yo can someone here help me with a problem
16:57<Myon>not unless you ask something
16:57<alex_server>!ask
16:57<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
16:58<EricB>you should add " or kill yourself" to the end of that
16:58<EricB>just to help thin the herd
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16:58<newdude>ok well iv been using debian etch for a while and recently it gave me an error when starting x saying that thier are no screens attatched and i have it configured and i even reinstalled and same thing
16:59<newdude>i mean no screens found
16:59<ranix>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
16:59<ranix>something is wrong in there
17:00<chealer>!tell newdude about no screens found
17:02<newdude>ok well one thing says module ABI major version (0) doesnt match the servers version (1)
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17:02<newdude>and
17:03<newdude>Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
17:03<newdude>and
17:03<newdude>No drivers available
17:03<newdude>those are all the messages after the (EE)'s
17:05<newdude>so any help please?
17:05<chealer>newdude: if you just want help to start X, try just switching to the vesa driver.
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17:06<newdude>how do i do that?
17:06<chealer>newdude: use the command suggested by ranix and choose "vesa" rather than "fglrx".
17:07<max>ok, so I have like 3 versions of Java installed. How do I unistall all of them
17:07<max>I want to start over
17:07<chealer>max: how did you install them?
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17:07<max>from the Java site. the rpm.bin and then all the command line stuff
17:08<chealer>max: ask Sun (or read their documentation)
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17:11<newdude>yes fuck ya thanks ranix and chealer it worked
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17:25<Supaplex>how do I get glxgears to show the fps?
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17:31<UK-Toker>hello peeps
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17:32<UK-Toker>can someone tell me what file i need to edit to stop apt from asking for the DVD each time please..
17:33<Supaplex>!tell UK-Toker -about sources.list
17:33<UK-Toker>thanks supaplex..
17:33<simon888>new mac pro... will it run debian?
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17:35<UK-Toker>thanks dood. sorted...
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17:36<juliank>simon888: http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook
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17:36<Supaplex>simon888: mail me one, and I'll let you know ;)
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17:39<juliank>simon888: If you already have one, you can follow the guide for macbooks and ask in this channel if something does not work.
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17:39<simon444>lol
17:39<simon444>888 doesn't have one
17:39<simon444>but I do
17:41<juliank>this seems to be the right guide: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnIntelMacPro
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18:02<oddtod>hey guys does any one know off the top of their head how supported AR5212 wifi card is it is an atheros just wondering if anyone knew off the top of their head
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18:31<runix__>hey guys :) I'm trying to compile ndiswrapper using module-assistant but it complains about a missing modsetver.h. any hints?
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18:37<KenDiTavo>algum brasileiro ai ?
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18:44<oddtod>ai
18:44<oddtod>si
18:48<chealer>runix__: which command?
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18:49<lolcats>anybody know how to make damnsmalllinux into a debian machine?
18:50<lolcats>a freind of mine neds a damnsmall machine for the fact that it can deal with shitty DNS servers
18:50<lolcats>and they use Evolution.
18:52<chealer>lolcats: by "make damnsmalllinux into a debian machine", do you mean "install DSL on a machine running Debian"? or what?
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18:53<stoned>chealer: no
18:53<stoned>chealer: I have some experience with DSL
18:53<stoned>chealer: I installed it a while ago, and it also had the option of downloading debian packages directly from repos, through apt
18:53<stoned>so you can turn a dsl system into a debian system
18:54<stoned>i think thats what he is talking about
18:54<stoned>lolcats: simple answer, just install debian
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19:05<feb>anybody know how to tell iceweasel to load the user's home page? iceweasel-xremote-client "openurl(javascript:browser.home)" doesn't do it, and I don't think that's the correct javascript anyway
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19:20<lolcats>feb, same way you'd do it with firefox
19:21<lolcats>javascript:window.location = browser.home
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19:33<vortek>hello
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19:34<vortek>I've googled got mixed replies.. i can't figure out best way to compile this debian kernel... with -Os or -O2, For the love of god can I get some insight?
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19:35<chealer>vortek: if you don't mind, why do you want to compile a kernel?
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19:37<litage>i'm mirroring part of the debian archive and have specified that source packages should not be mirrored. however, i've found many *.tar.gz files that have been mirrored. i understand that *.orig.tar.gz files belong to source packages. what do *.tar.gz files belong to?
19:40<chealer>litage: native Debian packages, I believe.
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19:47<litage>chealer: what's a "native" Debian package?
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19:49<chealer>litage: did you try Google? Policy should cover that.
19:52<litage>thanks
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19:53<ben_goodger_>hello
19:54<Jobbe>hello anyone know hamachi? and how to set it up?
19:54<ben_goodger_>in initialising a partition with LVM, i.e. creating a volume group descriptor, does this cause catastrophic data lost?
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19:55<blarson>ben_goodger_: Creating adding a partion to a volume group gets rid of anything on the partition.
19:55<ben_goodger>well, that's useless...
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19:56<ben_goodger>I'd like to extend my media directory without losing 148 gigabytes of video
19:58<blarson>ben_goodger: Add a new drive, create a LVM volume on it, create a LVM partition, copy the data over, then add the old partition to the LVM.
19:59<ben_goodger>hmm
19:59<ben_goodger>what if the extension consists of a 10gb blankable partition on the same disk?
19:59<ben_goodger>for now, obviously...
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20:00<gsimmons>Jobbe: There's installation instructions available on their wiki <http://logmeinwiki.com/wiki/Hamachi:Install_on_Linux>. If you're not required to connect to an existing Hamachi VPN, you might be better served with OpenVPN.
20:00<dannythm>hello thre
20:00<blarson>ben_goodger: If it's immediatly after the partion being expeded, you can carfully edit the partition table then extend the ext3 filesystem. Not recomended without backups.
20:00<dannythm>I neex help with the intallation of etch in a new notebook I just bought
20:01<ben_goodger>reiser3, actually... not very convenient, am I :P
20:01<Jobbe>gsimmons i have downloaded it and i got it working on my laptop my i cant get it working im my server
20:01<blarson>ben_goodger: I don't know if reiser3 can be extended. RTFM.
20:01<ben_goodger>mmm
20:01<dannythm>the problem is that when I start the installation, at the time the installer needs to mount the CD drive it tells me that it is not a common cd drive and need adicional dirvers to mount it
20:01<ben_goodger>the plan was for LVM to smooth it all over
20:02<dannythm>but I don't know where to find such drivers or if it really is an uncommon cd drive
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20:03<blarson>dannythm: lspci (from cosole 2) would give some info...
20:04<blarson>dannythm: Is it a recent system? Is the CD sata?
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20:05<dannythm>blarson: it is a brand new notebook I just bought this evening, its acd/dvd rerwiter
20:05<lee_>how do i deliver local and forward to another address without using .forward files?
20:05<lee_>using postfix
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20:06<blarson>dannythm: Could be to new for etch. You could try a weekly or daily snapshot.
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20:06<dannythm>blarson: I am right atm starting a new installation so I can give the requested info =)
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20:07<dannythm>blarson: I was looking in the debian web for some testing release but the alst new I could find is from the 25 of april... =S
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20:08<Jobbe>any one that can help me? my server dont recognize the command "make" or "make install"
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20:08<Jobbe>-bash: make: command not found
20:08<blarson>dannythm: see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
20:09<dannythm>blarson: doing lspci I can see some devices are unknown but nothing about the CD/DVD driver
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20:10<knoppizzx_999>buenas
20:10<blarson>dannythm: That would have your pata or sata controler, which is probably what needs the drivers.
20:11<Jobbe>any one that can help me? my server dont recognize the command "make" or "make install" this is my output "-bash: make: command not found"
20:11<knoppizzx_999>im nw in linux
20:11<stew>Jobbe: aptitude install build-essential
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20:11<Jobbe>ty
20:11<dannythm>blarson: I'm burning the daily release. Will ask again if I get the same problem again =)
20:12<knoppizzx_999>where you from?
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20:12<Jobbe>knoppizzx_999: dont ask stupid questions
20:12<vortek>:D
20:13<vortek>Man I can't figure out what i/o scheduler to use... for the kernel compiler.
20:13<Supaplex>knoppizzx_999: do you have a debian question?
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20:13<vortek>ITs a slow pIII mobile lappy
20:13<vortek>i read like tons of google stuf
20:13<dannythm>blarson: I know that the HDD is sata
20:13<vortek>any idea please :)
20:13<knoppizzx_999>i dont speak ingles
20:14<Supaplex>knoppizzx_999: what do you speak?
20:14<knoppizzx_999>spanish :)
20:14<stew>!es
20:14<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
20:14<Jobbe>is there a
20:14<Jobbe>is there a #debian-dk?
20:15<stew>Jobbe: /list #debian-dk
20:15<dannythm>!dk
20:15<dpkg>it has been said that dk is Hvis du vil tale dansk og få hjælp til debian, skriv /join #linux.dk in your irc client, also the country Denmark
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20:16<Jobbe>ty
20:18<knoppizzx_999>i work with secure platform
20:18<knoppizzx_999>in the job
20:19<Jobbe>i have some problems with hamachi i get thi output: http://www.jobbe.frac.dk/hamachi.txt
20:20<dannythm>blarson: oops with the daily release of today I get the same problem
20:21<blarson>dannythm: Could be the controler is too new or the manufacturer does not release enough information for a linux driver to be written.
20:21<dannythm>blarson: "No common CD-ROm drive was detected"
20:21<knoppizzx_999>use vpn of xp :)
20:21<Jobbe>me dumb i fixed my hamachi problem i forgot to do tuncfg
20:22<dannythm>blarson: so I should w8 some time until it's supported
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20:24<dannythm>blarson: thanx for the help m8 =) see you around here
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20:50<lanceallott>if I was describing the Debian os to someone; would I be correct by saying it is a .deb based ..architecture..platform..or environment
20:51<lupine>lanceallott: you'd say it uses the .deb packaging format
20:51<lanceallott>which word should i use
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20:52<lupine>none of the three you suggested. I'd go for packaging format/system
20:52<mcsniff>out of those words I suppose platform...but its not really any of those
20:52<lupine>platform ~= architecture
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20:53<lanceallott>I agree...been reading some docs and the write's terminology has me confused
20:53<lanceallott>writers
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20:55<vortek>I hope selecting the pentium M was right for this p3M
20:55<lanceallott>for me architecture is hardware such as cpu i86, sparc, meps, amdx64
20:55<lanceallott>platform would be software like .deb .rpm .tgz
20:55<lupine>lanceallott: platform is the same thing
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20:56<lanceallott>environment would be what ever is going on inside the host machine
20:56<lanceallott>userspace like stuff
20:56<lupine>environment is so wishy-washy it could be anything
20:58<lanceallott>I agree it has me re-considering definations of terms
20:59<litage>chealer: so both native and non-native packages are source packages?
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21:01<lanceallott>a source package has to be compiled, as compared to a pre-compiled binary
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21:02<lanceallott>repositories like .deb offer precompiled binaries
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21:02<lanceallott>source is downloaded as a xxxxx.tgz
21:02<litage>lanceallott: regardless of whether it's *.tar.gz or *.orig.tar.gz
21:02<litage>right?
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21:06<lanceallott>litage: well they still haft to be unpacked, ./configure ..make..makeinstall., usually
21:08<lanceallott>ati drivers can be installed by downloading a text file called .run
21:08<litage>right, but ATI drivers aren't released by ATI as Debian binary packages
21:08<litage>lanceallott: i think i got it. thanks =)
21:09<lanceallott>your right
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21:59<chealer>litage: both native and non-native packages have source packages, yes
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22:01<litage>chealer: native packages can be distributed in binary form?
22:02<Supaplex>how can I tell what cvs revision I checked out?
22:02<Supaplex>it's been months, and i'm behind cvs head (but I don't know how far)
22:02<litage>Supaplex: this is a random guess, but check any hidden files in the dir you co'd to
22:03<chealer>litage: yes. the only difference is that native packages don't have a Debian diff.
22:03<litage>thanks chealer
22:03<manphiz>Several packages in debian-multimedia are out-dated since libglib1.2ldbl migration. How can they be informed to schedule an update?
22:04<litage>chealer: i originally asked about native packages because i wanted to know if it's "safe" to not mirror all *.tar.gz files rather than just *.orig.tar.gz
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22:07<Rambozo>What line do I put into my sources.list so apt-get can get packages from debian website? All I have is the security updates in there
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22:08<Supaplex>!tell Rambozo -about sources.list
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22:10<Rambozo>Supaplex, thx bud
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22:11<Supaplex>np
22:11<Supaplex>also,
22:11<Supaplex>!tell Rambozo -about mirrors
22:11<chealer>manphiz: if you look well, there's a hidden email address
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22:13<manphiz>chealer, nice! I found mailto:marillat@free.fr , quite tricky :)
22:13<oddto1>hey guys does any one know of a good program for editing mp3's in debian
22:14<Desensitize>Rambozo: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
22:14<gurand>has any major vendor signed up to preload debian on its boxes?
22:15<gurand>?
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22:16<oddto1>umm isn't the toshiba low end laptop come with a distro of debain
22:16<oddto1>or a distro based off of debian?
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22:18<CutMeOwnThroat>pft
22:18<CutMeOwnThroat>now he's gorn
22:18<Rambozo>Desensitize, thanks. Is there information on what the end of the entry means such as the 'contrib', 'non-free' etc?
22:19<CutMeOwnThroat>different directories
22:20<CutMeOwnThroat>of the repository
22:20<CutMeOwnThroat>the names are kind of self explanatory...
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22:20<Rambozo>ok
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22:21<CutMeOwnThroat>!contrib
22:21<dpkg>well, contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in debian (possibly in contrib or non-free) To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free>
22:21<CutMeOwnThroat>!non-free
22:21<dpkg>non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there . See #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms"
22:21<CutMeOwnThroat>ehe
22:22<CutMeOwnThroat>"evil"
22:22<CutMeOwnThroat>well...
22:22<twb>CutMeOwnThroat: you don't believe us?
22:22<Rambozo>CutMeOwnThroat, thanks!
22:22<CutMeOwnThroat>who's "us"?
22:23<manphiz>well, since "non-free"s are evil, why x264 can't be one of them? It really made me sad when x264 was removed...
22:23<twb>CutMeOwnThroat: we are us.
22:23<CutMeOwnThroat>I thought toys are us
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22:24<CutMeOwnThroat>I was just about to say... that that's a very.... open source way of seeing it
22:24<CutMeOwnThroat>well, more than that actually
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22:24<Rambozo>so basically stuff that isnt really GNU goes into non-free?
22:25<CutMeOwnThroat>no
22:25<CutMeOwnThroat>I dont think bsd-licensed stuff would go there
22:25<twb>Uh, Open Source is basically people who don't like Free software's hard line.
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22:27<CutMeOwnThroat>I think you could say everything that enforces more restictions than GPL goes there.... but that's just my personal guess :)
22:28<GhostlyDeath>Not alot of people like the viral aspect of the GPL
22:29<twb>BSD licenses are DFSG compliant, IIRC
22:29<twb>As long as you mean the three-clause license.
22:30<CutMeOwnThroat>!vrms
22:30<dpkg>rumour has it, vrms is The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux, now included with every fresh potato! Good for sniffing out those pesky non-free software... apt-get install vrms, or now more accurate than the real rms in some situations such as gdb-doc and emacs21-doc :)
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22:31<CutMeOwnThroat>fresh potato?
22:31<twb>Everyone should have a potato.
22:31<CutMeOwnThroat>dis dish is stale...
22:31<twb>I keep one on a string around my neck
22:32<twb>"If you've got your potato, it'll be alright."
22:32[~]CutMeOwnThroat is trying to remember the name of the guy.... and if it could be abbreviated with twb
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22:32<twb>CutMeOwnThroat: /whois twb
22:32<GhostlyDeath>vrms is like drm!
22:33<CutMeOwnThroat>so guess thats a no :)
22:33<twb>Goddammit, why do the Elder Developers have to use OO.org for documentation.
22:33<GhostlyDeath>!microsoft
22:33<dpkg>somebody said microsoft was the soft conglomerate of stature that provides the food to billions of apathetic morons who want to sit on the asses of their undoing so their minds can melt into the pixelized universe that is The Daily Show
22:34<twb>It's a PITA to version control or read on a tty.
22:34[~]twb starts X with bad grace.
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22:35<CutMeOwnThroat>what do you do if the potato starts to rot instead of dry out?
22:35<twb>CutMeOwnThroat: go "eeeew, squishy!"
22:36<predder>what's wrong with the daily show? :(
22:37<CutMeOwnThroat>well, if it gets runny, you won't keep it on the string for long
22:37<twb>predder: it's on television.
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23:30<vortek>wpp[s ment that for bot
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23:32<vortek>man i cant find libqt.so.1 for debian or nothing . I tried google dpkg
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23:54<manphiz>Is anyone curious about different situation between iceweasel and icedove, which the former kept package with firefox while the latter is somewhat forgotten. Now firefox and thunderbird are all 2.0.0.6, but only iceweasel kept up the pace, icedove is still stalled at 2.0.0.4. Any ideas?
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23:59<chealer>manphiz: no, they just have different maintainance teams and priorities.
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