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---Logopened Tue Sep 11 00:00:01 2007
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00:00<test1>master
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00:00<test1>this is not the problem if you see this http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=69485
00:01<test1>you will see some of its driver under linux :-(
00:01<kop>test1: The other possiblity is that you might need to pass some parameter to the kernel at boot. Install (IIRC) linux-doc-2.6 package and read the kernel_parameters.txt.gz (or something) file. It might say how to use the drive.
00:02<kop>test1: There's a reason they say "use binary only drivers, hate life." I hope that the patch they're talking about is source against a stock kernel.
00:03<kop>test1: I forget the debian way to rebuild a kernel, but it's in the reference manual at debian.org iirc.
00:03<test1>without any kernel parameter it recognises that no hard-disks attached to its SATA port, but
00:04<test1>it does not test its IDE port, at all
00:04<test1>and i tested that patch, it can not be applied to the source of that driver :-(
00:05<test1>i reviewed all things in linux kernel's sources about that chipset
00:05<test1>only its designers can solve its problems
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00:07<kop>test1: dunno
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00:21<test1>hi , how can get a list of rooms on this server
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00:23<ricky>test1: Since /list is probably huuuge, try /msg ChanServ help list
00:24<ricky>Er, whoops.
00:24<nvz>services are down
00:24<ricky>Wow, never seen that before- interesting.
00:25<nvz>yeah I just tried to identify and nickserv wasn't there
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00:29<tcsetattr>IRC has channels. the rooms are on AOL.
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00:31<test1>tcsattr, excuse me ;-)
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00:33<test1>i encountered a bizar error in compiling a package, can anyone find its solution:
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00:34<test1>if you download http://ihu.sourceforge.net/ from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ihu/ihu-0.5.6.tar.gz?download
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00:35<test1>and begining to compile it by running its configure on my machin it produced an error as below in a file named: bnv_qt_test_1.out
00:35<gsimmons>test1: Hmm? You're not using the Debian 'ihu' package?
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00:37<test1>gsimmons, yes because it requires some very new packages that i have not on my computer and also is not in the newest official debian release (etch-40r1)
00:38<test1>configure: line 4769: ./bnv_qt_test.h: Permission denied
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00:38<test1>can any one of you compile it now ?
00:38<test1>can anyone find its problem and solution ?
00:39<gsimmons>test1: You uh, might want to re-check that. 0.5.6 is packaged for Etch.
00:39<nvz>!info ihu etch
00:39<dpkg>ihu: (Qt VoIP softphone with an own, encrypted protocol), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.5.6-1 (etch), Packaged size: 183 kB, Installed size: 472 kB
00:39<test1>and when i ruc that configure by root user it changed that error to: configure: line 4769: bnv_qt_test.h: command not found
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00:42<test1>gsimmons, on my machin it requires as it tells below:
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00:43<test1>dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ihu:
00:43<test1> ihu depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.14); however:
00:43<test1> Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.13-1.
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00:43<test1> ihu depends on libc6 (>= 2.6-1); however:
00:43<test1> Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6.ds1-8.
00:43<test1> ihu depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2-20070516); however:
00:43<test1> Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.1.1-19.
00:43<test1> ihu depends on libgmpxx4ldbl; however:
00:43<niru>hi
00:43<test1> Package libgmpxx4ldbl is not installed.
00:43<test1> ihu depends on libjack0 (>= 0.103.0); however:
00:43<niru>I am made a bootable usb
00:44<test1> Package libjack0 is not installed.
00:44<test1> ihu depends on libsoundtouch1c2 (>= 1.3.0); however:
00:44<test1> Package libsoundtouch1c2 is not installed.
00:44<test1> ihu depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.2-20070516); however:
00:44<test1> Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.1.1-19.
00:44<test1>that libc is not in etch
00:44<niru>but when i boot through the usb it stops at MBR
00:44<niru>nothing is happening
00:44<tcsetattr>you are trying to install some other version besides the etch version of ihu
00:45<niru>tcsetattr, any idea
00:45<gsimmons>niru: Assuming it's a problem with your stick's MBR, install the 'mbr' package and run "install-mbr /dev/sdb" (replace "sdb" with the device representing your stick).
00:47<test1>tcsattr, i only got the .deb versions on http://ihu.sourceforge.net/download.html page not from other places
00:47<gsimmons>test1: That particular link is for the 'ihu' package in Debian unstable.
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00:49<niru>gsimmons, I did the same and it was showing the MBR
00:49<niru>gsimmons, I have tested the usb sdb1 device using qemu and it is working fine
00:49<niru>only problem is now I am not getting the booting process
00:50<niru>with qemu it is going fine
00:50<niru>It was just for testing and used qemu
00:51<niru>I gave qemu -usb /dev/sdb1
00:51<niru>and it is continuing
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00:51<niru>but when I reboot and boot through usb it stops at
00:51<niru>MBR
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00:52<niru>is it install-mbr /dev/sdb or sdb1
00:53<niru>initially I gave sdb
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00:55<test1>thank , excuse me ;-)
00:55<Snapser>I'm going to install Debian soon, using the Encrypting Filesystem option...
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00:56<Snapser>I usually recompile the kernel, but don't know what modules are required to support the encrypting filesystem
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00:56<niru>gsimmons, ?
00:57<test1>are there anyone that can introduce a good IDE controllers that work without any bug under linux ?
00:58<gsimmons>niru: In your case, it would be "install-mbr /dev/sdb", as described in section 4.4.4 of the Installation Guide.
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01:03<niru>gsimmons, now I rebooted my pc and qemu shows
01:03<niru>MBR 1234FA
01:03<niru>means what
01:06<gsimmons>niru: Read the install-mbr(8) man page for an explanation of this prompt.
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01:07<test1>are there anyone that can introduce a good IDE controllers that work without any bug under linux ?
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01:11<niru>gsimmons, so what i need to do now
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01:11<niru>its mentioned that A is for advance and F for floppy
01:11<tcsetattr>A is for Apple, J is for Jacks
01:11<niru>MBR 1234FA:
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01:14<gsimmons>niru: I'd test your image using "qemu -usb /dev/sdb". Also, did you resolve your earlier issue when installing SYSLINUX to /dev/sdb1?
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01:16<family>hey guys looking for a png to pmn program and a pnmtolss16
01:18<gsimmons>niru: If you've run "install-mbr /dev/sdb1" at all, you've overwritten the boot sector (previously occupied by SYSLINUX) on that partition. You'd want to re-run SYSLINUX again in this case (ensure the partition is not mounted beforehand).
01:18<simonrvn>png->pnm yeh, to lss16? try opening it in the gimp, or convert it with imagemagick
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01:19<tcsetattr>netpbm: /usr/bin/pngtopnm
01:19<tcsetattr>never heard of lss16
01:20<nvz>me either
01:20<n3x>tcsetattr you are a pimp
01:20<n3x>i respect you
01:20<n3x>you know this shit
01:20<nvz>which is why I am sitting here doing nothing and didn't answer the question
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01:21<n3x>tcsetattr: you should let me pay you for some work
01:21<family>for boot.img
01:21<family>:)
01:22<niru>gsimmons,when I did syslinux /dev/sdb1
01:22<niru>it was showing syntax error /root/.mtoolssrc file wrong drive
01:22<Snapser>How do I recompile the kernel, and keep support for the Encrypting File system (or whatever the Debian installer uses)
01:22<niru>whereas when i saw the file mtoolssrc it was having the correct name as sdb1
01:22<test1> niru: go to #syslinux channel and speak with them
01:23<niru>so I just deleted everything from mtoolssrc file and ran syslinux again
01:23<niru>that did not show any error
01:23<gsimmons>niru: That's right. You had the wrong syntax in there, IIRC.
01:23<niru>then just now I tried install-mbr /dev/sdb as well as install-mbr /dev/sdb1
01:24<niru>gsimmons, so I did correct by deleting everything from the file
01:24<gsimmons>niru: No. No no no. You _don't_ do "install-mbr /dev/sdb1" for the reason I explained above.
01:25<niru>gsimmons, :( but I did that before you told
01:25<niru>gsimmons, do I need to format the usb again now and do it afresh?
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01:26<gsimmons>niru: You should just be able to get away with re-installing SYSLINUX (eg. "syslinux /dev/sdb1").
01:26<niru>that shows syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
01:26<niru>gsimmons, fdisl -l /dev/sdb shows
01:26<niru> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
01:26<niru>/dev/sdb1 * 1 1015 1006849 6 FAT16
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01:27<gsimmons>niru: Let's discuss this privately. We could be here a while.
01:27<niru>gsimmons, when
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01:28<Snapser> <gsimmons> niru: Let's discuss this privately. << hawt~
01:30<Snapser><3
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01:41<test1>are there anyone that can introduce a good IDE controllers that work without any bug under linux ?
01:42<nvz>the PIIX controlers or VIA82Cxxx are the oldest and most tested ones I can think of
01:42<xtc>What's the apache directive that allows web access to user/public_html directory? (e.g. domain.tld/~user)
01:42<nvz>though your question is vague beyond usefulness to you with any answer you could be given
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01:44<test1>nvz, where is the site of VIA82C ? did you see this: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
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01:45<test1>nvz, i mean that the IDE controllers that is plugged into PCI-slot and not on the motherboards itself !!
01:45<gsimmons>xtc: It's a module (mod_userdir). Use "a2enmod userdir" to enable.
01:45<nvz>you also didn't mention SATA
01:46<nvz>like I said you were way too vague to get a response that would help you
01:46<xtc>gsimmons, thanks.
01:46<test1>are there anyone that can introduce a good IDE (pluggable into PCI-slot) controllers ( famous as RAID controller) that work without any bug under linux ?
01:47<test1>nvz, i didn';t mention SATA, because i only need IDE(PATA)
01:47<nvz>well the link you just showed says sata.html
01:48<test1>but most of sata card have an IDE port too
01:48<nvz>test1: do you need raid.. are you gonna give details or what?
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01:50<test1>i do not need RAID functionality, although if RAID's func. are present it is better, i only need more IDE connections in one computer, under linux, but relliably and well tested
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01:52<blarson>test1: A cheap one I got with a hard drive works fine, but I don't remember what type it is. (and I'm a few thousand miles from home now)
01:53<nvz>well I'm still looking but these VIA VT6421A are dirt cheap, but googling that with the word linux came up with some not-so-good looking hits like ubuntu forums and whatnot complaining about issues
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01:55<nvz>test1: is price not an issue?
01:55<test1>blarson, thanks ;-) , i hope you return home at most 1 minute later :-)
01:55<test1>nvz, not much
01:56<test1>nvz, yes i tested vt6421 but it caould not work for me well, i tested it with debian-etch-40r1
01:56<chealer>xtc: UserDir, although that doesn't necessarily allow it
01:57<nvz>test1: well this is a good brand and I found one for $41.70 form eWiz in San Jose, CA its got two PATA ports
01:58<nvz>PROMISE Ultra 133 TX2
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01:59<nvz>test1: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=IDE-U13TXE&c=pw link to buy from eWiz in California...
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02:00<nvz>test1: here is another link in san diego, ca few cents more, but this site does say it works with RH 6/7 http://www.superwarehouse.com/Promise_Ultra_133_TX2_Storage_Controller/ULTRA133_TX2/p/623500
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02:01<nvz>and the superwarehouse says they deal internationally
02:01<nvz>don't really know where you live
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02:04<nvz>test1: here are some user reviews http://shopping.msn.com/reviews/shp/?itemId=24746163
02:05<nvz>test1: though you can't believe everything you read, especially from people who use msn.. heh
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02:05<test1>nvz, thanks but my own via-vt6421 also have driver for liux, not only RH6-7 but also for new kernels, but it has some configuration needs, and that promise board probablly has no support for new kernels 2.6.28-
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02:06<niru>gsimmons, ?
02:06<nvz>test1: linux doesnt lose support for hardware.. hardware support only gets better as time goes on
02:07<test1>i want to not wast time for experiencing myself with it
02:07<test1>nvz, yes, you are right,
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02:09<tcsetattr>sometimes old hardware support is dropped. not until many years after you're ebmarrassed to still be using that hardware though.
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02:11<nvz>test1: here is another cheaper 2-channel pata 133 card http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=132203&prodlist=bizrate
02:12<Supaplex>I thought there was a new driver for the promise card. I own one, and it worked fine a few months ago on it.
02:13<nvz>seems to me like the most well supported IO controllers are the onboard ones that are most common
02:13<nvz>the Intels, the VIAs, the SISs.. etc
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02:14[~]Supaplex sudders over SiS
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02:14<Supaplex>ohhh the brain stains!
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02:16<nvz>Idk I think promise or 3ware is what I'd go with if I was gonna look for a linux supported expansion card
02:17<test1>nvz, oh no my motherboard's own IDE port is occupied by my DVD and CD writers, and in new motherboards the manufacturers made only one IDE port unfortunately :-(
02:18<nvz>yeah I've seen that with new pcs with onboard SATA
02:18<nvz>you know SATA drives are just about the same price as PATA these days
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02:19<nvz>and obviously better... they are faster, the cables cause less obstruction of air flow..etc
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02:19<test1>yes, but i most times must use some older IDE hard-disks too, on my computer(it has sata hard as booting hard-disk )
02:20<Supaplex>can vim transparently edit the content of gpg encrypted files? I have some small text files I want to edit that are encrypted, but I don't want any cleartext equivlient present (eg, swap edit files need to be secure, or not used at all)
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02:21<Supaplex>or atleast, something equiv to my vim idea.
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02:23<nvz>heh, you want to edit encrypted files without even so much as having them unencrypted in memory?
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02:26<Supaplex>I don't want plain text equiv tempfiles laying around
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02:27<lupine_85>BSD has support for encrypted system RAM, IIRC?
02:28<lupine_85>all the major OSes can encrypt swap
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02:35<nvz>Supaplex: you might be paranoid
02:35<nvz>but that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
02:36<tcsetattr>if the temp files are on an encrypted filesystem, there shouldn't be any way to recover them
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02:37<nvz>If I snort a hepa filter I don't have to worry about allergens but that doesn't make it a good idea
02:37<Supaplex>tcsetattr: ahhh. nice idea.
02:38<nvz>I think that is what lupine_85 was getting at
02:38<test1>nvz, thanks, i and i am not in america to buy one of them.
02:38<Supaplex>nvz: you snort the hepa filter up your nose? o.O ouch!
02:38<nvz>test1: good america is going to hell anyways
02:39<mikegrb>Supaplex: there is vim -x but it is symetric encryption
02:39<nvz>those companies will deal internationally, most of them
02:40<mikegrb>Supaplex: no clue how it is implemented, maybe it is possible to make it use gpg
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02:40<test1>and get some for shipping,
02:40<nvz>this is why you use emacs
02:40<test1>i found another card M5283 from ALi(ULi), let me test it,
02:40<nvz>it does everything
02:41<nvz>eww
02:41<nvz>I'd get two cards from ALi, one to shit on and the other to cover it up with :P
02:41<nvz>make a nice turd sandwich
02:42<nvz>I've only used thier mobo chipsets.. in laptops no less, but I never liked em
02:42<nvz>I had a laptop that had an ALi sound, ide, usb..etc
02:42<nvz>buggiest damn hardware I ever seen
02:44<nvz>they definatly seem like a chipset maker that doesn't bother fixing hardware bugs, they just mask it with windows software which makes them a PITA on linux
02:44<test1>yes i found somewhere some bad news about m5283 chips under linux
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02:48<nvz>the one I had was an m5229 I think
02:52<nvz>Like I said though I wouldn't trust Acer Labs Inc, further than I could throw the place
02:52<nvz>and I'm sure they've got a pretty heavy lab, with a solid foundation.. so..
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03:11<niru>gsimmons,
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03:22<Snapser>oh noes~
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03:23<Snapser>now I have to decide between KDE and Gnome~ :(
03:23<Snapser>*tears out hair*
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03:24<Shizen>try Orc :P
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03:24<Snapser>I'll give you ORC~~~!!!
03:24<Shizen>heh
03:26<Snapser>i'll be back~ muahahahahahaha~
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03:26<Snapser>actually...
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03:26<Snapser>What is a good usage meter?
03:27<Snapser>on Windows I use NetLimiter Monitor
03:29<Snapser>*cries*
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03:34<Requiem>anybody good with partitions?
03:34<Snapser>*formats Requiem*
03:34<Requiem>I apparently chose the seperaate root, usr, var tmp partitions thingy
03:35<Requiem>I need to undo that, as the temp partition is way to small
03:35<Snapser>is that good?
03:35<Snapser>oh.
03:35<Snapser>as in merger, then repoint the fstab?
03:35<Requiem>having crashes when trying to compress a file, error is linked to /tmp out of memory
03:35<Requiem>pretty much
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03:36<Snapser>*runs away and hides*
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03:40<Neumoi>Hy
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03:40<pmb>cityirc.net
03:41<pmb>sorry... hi
03:41<Neumoi>I'm trying to install gnome 2.19 on sid, but i can't find any repo. Can someone help me please ?
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03:48<Neumoi>please can you help me :p some 2.19 file are on 2.19 file are in experimental. I added deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main to source list but it's empty :/
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04:04<wilsonm6>hi could anyone give me a small nudge in the right direction? i need to make a linux version thats as small as possible and only requires a web browser with flash to be loaded on it, nothing else
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04:08<test1>wilsonm6, use knoppix
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04:10<nvz>test1: apparently 4 minutes was more time than he had for an answer :P
04:11<nvz>test1: and for the record knoppix doesn't fit the bill of small as possible
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04:12<JasonS>test1: dsl is definitely much smaller
04:12<test1>nvz, he didn't tell about how much small, small as a CD or as a thumbnail, or ...
04:12<test1>wilsonm6, how much small ?
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04:12<nvz>test1: there were context clues to suggest he didn't want anything that wasn't absolutly required for doing web browsing with flash
04:12<test1>jansonS, where is the site of dsl ?
04:12<nvz>test1: and he left 5 minutes ago
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04:13<JasonS>!dsl
04:13<dpkg>dsl is, like, Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/, or for Damn Small Linux related questions, see #damnsmalllinux (ask me about <based on debian>)
04:13<JasonS>though i dont know if dsl would fit thier bill either
04:13<JasonS>in any case its a moot point by now
04:13<nvz>yep
04:15<nvz>ah I didn't even notice chanserv and nickserv were back
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04:16<nvz>I wonder why chanserv isn't in here
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04:17<test1>dpkg, no anyone is present in #damnsmalllinux :-(
04:17<dpkg>test1: okay
04:17<nvz>dpkg: forget no anyone
04:17<dpkg>i didn't have anything called 'no anyone' to forget, nvz
04:17<nvz>oh, you changed that factoid
04:17<jm_>it was "anyone" :)
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04:17<nvz>jm_: yeah I see that now
04:18<nvz>jm_: I wonder if it was anything worth notifying don about
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04:18<jm_><dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help
04:18<jm_>you with or is a guru/expert of [someprogram]. Instead, ask your real question.
04:18<jm_>(If the real question _was_ "does anyone use [someprogram]?" ask me about <popco
04:18<jm_>n> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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04:19<jm_>sorry forgot that less screws things up
04:19<nvz>hehe
04:19<nvz>jm_: so I guess you can fix that from your logs then?
04:19<test1>well, alll
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04:20<jm_>fixed
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04:20<nvz>test1: dpkg is a blootbot, and you got to watch using the operator "is" should you speak to it, especially in combination with the word "no"
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04:21<nvz>test1: saying "no foo is ..." completly overwrites the factoid database entry "foo"
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04:26<test1>nvz, yes, well
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04:58<bkw>int main(int argc , char *argv[]){ ; char *myString = argv[1]; Is it possible to add \n at the end of that char array?
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04:59<jm_>no
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05:00<bkw>jm_, How do I solve it then? :/
05:00<jm_>bkw: allocate enough space and copy argv1 to it and append \n
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05:05<themill>bkw: argv is in memory that you can't alter (safely). You should malloc, strcpy or strncpy, add the \n and then add the \0 again (note that last step!)
05:05<themill>bkw: what are you trying to do?
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05:06<bkw>hold on, I'll use a pastebin
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05:12<bkw>themill, http://pastebin.ca/691670
05:12<bkw>what I do want to do is to add the \r\n to the argument
05:13<bkw>Is that correct?
05:13<themill>bkw: I'm still not sure *why* you want to do that. Is it just to print it out to stdout or a file?
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05:14<bkw>It will be sent to another function.
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05:14<seanius>guys could you take this to somewhere besides #debian ?
05:14<themill>seanius: ok... it's not like there's a queue of people waiting ;)
05:14<bkw>seanius, why, there's no activity anyway?
05:15<bkw>themill, do you understand what I would like to do?
05:15<seanius>i guess...
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05:53<morhas>hey
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05:55<Fluewatuet_>I wrote a script for linux 2.4 and used usleep in bash! Now, the script should run on linux 2.6 and there isn't any usleep available, what must I do, to geht usleep under Debian 4 - 2.6.18 ?
05:56<jm_>why would you use usleep in a script?
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05:59<Fluewatuet_>to send some commands in 1/10 sec. slots
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05:59<nvz>what is usleep?
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06:00<jm_>sleep supports floating points arguments, so sleep 0.1
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06:11<Fluewatuet_>nice, seemed to work! with google or man sleep, I found only information that the interval could be an integer! but i forgott to look on sleep --help
06:12<Fluewatuet_>thanks jm_
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06:13<modernslave>sziasztok
06:14<modernslave>most telepítettem debian 4.0-t és nem tudok 640x480ról feljebb váltani felbontásban
06:14<modernslave>tudna nekem valaki segíteni?
06:14<jm_>!hu
06:14<dpkg>rumour has it, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t.
06:15<modernslave>sry i think this isn't the hungarian debian hub...
06:15<modernslave>sorry... bye
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06:26<niru>I got the usb bootable
06:26<niru>and the installation goes fine
06:27<niru>but how can i use preseed file here
06:27<niru>how to call preseed file
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06:34<skaapgif>hi
06:35<wilsonm6>hi, how do i reinstall grub for debian with the /boot on a sda1 and / on sda3
06:35<jm_>man grub-install
06:35<wilsonm6>tried it, and it doesn't work
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06:35<skaapgif>what exactly did you try?
06:35<wilsonm6>i've managed to actually get into grub, but i can't figure out how to get back to debian
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06:36<jm_>kernel, initrd and boot commands
06:37<wilsonm6>i can't find a way to use the kernel command which actually completes
06:38<jm_>what do you mean with "completes"?
06:38<wilsonm6>it always just says an error
06:38<suiside>wilsonm6: kernel relative/path/to/kernel/image/from/boot
06:38<jm_>do you know you can use tab key inGRUB?
06:39<skaapgif>can anyone help me with the bridging concept... as I understand it even though all the interfaces behind the bridge will use one ip, the packets will still seem to come from different MAC adressed?
06:39<wilsonm6>jm_ yes... thanks
06:39<skaapgif>*addresses
06:39<jm_>wilsonm6: you need full path if you haven't used "root" command first
06:40<jm_>so kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz<tab> root=/dev/sda3 ro or so
06:42<wilsonm6>there is no vmlinuz file on hd0,0
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06:42<jm_>what is there then?
06:43<wilsonm6>it got formatted accidently, so now all it has is lost+found and the recently installed grub directory
06:43<jm_>do you even have a kernel image anywhere?
06:43<wilsonm6>i would assume i have one on the root partition
06:43<jm_>it's typically installed to /boot, but feel free to check there too
06:44<wilsonm6>there is a file vmlinuz in / but kernel (hd0,2)/vmlinuz says file not found
06:44<gsimmons>niru: See section B.2.1 of the Installation Guide. In your case, you'd want to edit syslinux.cfg and include the "preseed/*" boot parameters on the second (append) line.
06:44<jm_>that's typically a symlink to /boot ;)
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06:44<wilsonm6>ok, so is there a way i can get vmlinuz back?
06:45<jm_>boot with rescue medium, install kernel, et voila
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06:48<wilsonm6>does it matter if it's not the debian disk i do the rescue from?
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06:49<jm_>not really
06:50<suiside>no, as long as you can mount your partitions and chroot to your system you can reinstall the kernel image using it
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06:50<niru>gsimmons, I just added preseed/file=/xyz-preseed.cfg
06:51<wilsonm6>how do i reinstall kernel image?
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06:52<suiside>by using apt-get or aptitude as usual
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06:52<wilsonm6>ah ok, so do i need to actually boot into a rescue disk, or can i use any livecd with the partitions mounted?
06:53<suiside>you'll propably have to mount them by hand
06:53<ErJeDi>wilsonm6: boot from a floppy :)
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06:54<wilsonm6>i dont have a floppy:P
06:55<ErJeDi>don't u have a floppy disc drive?
06:55<ErJeDi>:D :P
06:56<wilsonm6>yes, but no floppy disks
06:56<ErJeDi>i have a floppy disc drive and a card reader
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06:56<ErJeDi>because my old xp does not regozne the sata hard disk :P
06:56<ErJeDi>but this is solved
06:56<ErJeDi>i am using this also to boot from floppy to flash bios for example :)
06:56<jm_>wilsonm6: livecd is ok, just chroot into it and then mount things there
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06:57<wilsonm6>anyway, while i'm waiting for this, does anyone know if a stripped debian with some sort of window manager on would fit on a 43M CD?
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06:59<ErJeDi>how i can boot with a framebuffer console using grub??
06:59<serge>Hello! I'm new to defoma package. I need to add some fonts to my system to use them with a2ps. I've got some *.afm and *.pfb files placed in some directory. Can anybody tell me right steps to add these fonmts to my system? Thank you. (my system is Etch 4.0)
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07:07<wilsonm6>ok, i've got into a livecd and mounted the root and boot partitions, chroot'd and apt-get installed kernel-image... nothings different in the boot
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07:11<wilsonm6>nvm i think i've got it working now
07:11<wilsonm6>thanks for your help:)
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07:14<nvz>serge: this is why the linux manual pages were created, for people who are new to things or just can't remember
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07:14<ErJeDi>hi
07:15<nvz>serge: man 1 defoma and all the other pages in the See Also section
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07:18<wilsonm6>while install the linux kernel image, i get a message saying "Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? (y/N) " but no matter which i select, it just hangs
07:18<jimmypw>Ive been trying to create a SSL certificate for apache2 downloaded for debian etch. However the app that most guides are refering to (/usr/sbin/apache2/apache2-ssl<somthing>) does not exist. Is there another way of doing this on debian?
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07:18<zegevrijtt>after i installed ati driver x works but when i enter a tty it goes black. any ideas?
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07:19<gsimmons>jimmypw: I think you're after the "make-ssl-cert" command. It's provided by the 'ssl-cert' package.
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07:20<jimmypw>gsimmons: aha that exists. now my next point of pondering was is mod_ssl included in the apache2-common package?
07:21<jimmypw>and... enabled by default
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07:23<jimmypw>ill find that out my self. thanks for your help :)
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07:25<gsimmons>jimmypw: Can't say I can confirm that. An installation of the 'apache2' package on Etch will enable 17 modules by default (at least on i386), but mod_ssl isn't one of them.
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07:25<gsimmons>jimmypw: I'm sorry, that's actually 15. You can enable/disable specific modules using a2enmod/a2dismod respectively.
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07:27[~]jimmypw gives gsimmons come cookies.
07:27<jimmypw>thanks very much
07:27<jimmypw>*some
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07:28<niru>gsimmons, can you give me the link
07:28<niru>of the Installation guide
07:28<gsimmons>!i-g
07:28<dpkg>I heard "ig" is Installation Guide .. see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r0 (Stable as of April 8, 2007) .. or see http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1 ... 3.1r5). Lenny is now the new Testing!
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07:40<Cmego>new to debian disgruntal employee changed ssh password any way to reset
07:41<jm_>what kind of password?
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07:41<Cmego>to mail server ssh connect
07:41<jm_>for which user?
07:41<Cmego>root
07:42<jm_>sure, there's an easy way to do that
07:42<Cmego>please help me sir
07:42<jm_>!i forgot root's password
07:42<dpkg>1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. etch, sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same.
07:42<JasonS>Cmego: step 1 do what dpkg just said, step 2 beat disgruntaled employee about the head
07:43<jm_>you can also boot with a live/rescue CD and mount it then fix it that way
07:43<JasonS>step 3, turn employee into former employee :)
07:43<Cmego>funny thing is instructions say to log in with root it works, then is says to log in with same password and it does not accept it
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07:45<Cmego>i like jasons steps better
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08:54<jimmypw>I wonder if somone could point me in the right direction for using bind?
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08:55<jimmypw>Ive got it installed, and running. its the creation of zones, how to update the master name servers essentially
08:56<jimmypw>ive just noticed #bind dont worry
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08:56<padski>jimmypw: or read the bog
08:57<jimmypw>bog?#
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08:57<padski>bind operations guide. it should come in one of the bind packages, bind9-doc I would think (you probably want bind9 not bind8)
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08:59<jimmypw>padski: i have bind 9 installed. How do i get to the docs? using man?
08:59<padski>dpkg -L bind9-doc
08:59<dpkg>ii bind9-doc 2.4-3.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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08:59<padski>lol
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09:00<jimmypw>riiight
09:00<padski>I mean type that, I didn't mean to ask dpkg :-)
09:00<jimmypw>ok thanks
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09:01<nutzer26>test
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09:02<padski>jimmypw: there is also an o'reilly book. I've never read it, but it might be worth a look.
09:03<jimmypw>I agree. Books are usually the best source of knowledge
09:03<padski>jimmypw: and there is http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html
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09:04[~]jimmypw gives padski cookies
09:04<jimmypw>that looks promising
09:04<jimmypw>thanks
09:04<padski>jimmypw: section 5.7 of the securing debian manual
09:05<padski>jimmypw: "securing bind"
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09:25<serge>How can I change font set for Ghostscript? I used to do it for version 7.x and there was Fontmap.GS ... But there is no such a file in Etch. By default it has ugly monospace font for Cyrillic printing - I need to fix it. Help pls.
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10:00<knoppix_>k
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10:02<kurumin>Hi, oi, hola
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10:04<wouterl>Hello, I'm having a problem recording sound. What can be the problem? The playback works, I'm hearing the mic trough headphone...
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10:07<chealer>wouterl: most of us don't have crystal balls.
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10:08<kurumin>kkk :)
10:10<kurumin>Explain your problem wouterl
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10:11<wouterl>Playing music etc works, but recoding doesn't work. And I haven't got an idea where to start looking for an answer...
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10:12<wouterl>I've tried to reconfigure using alsaconf. But the conf seemed to be fine.
10:14<wouterl>in alsamixer, the capture tab shows red on mic
10:14<wouterl>don't know if that is a problem
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10:17<kurumin>modprobe -c driver
10:17<kurumin>modprobe driver
10:17<kurumin>Now, alsaconf
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10:21<wouterl>kurumin, nothing ...
10:22<kurumin>Which is it your driver?
10:23<wouterl>snd-intel8x0
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10:24<kurumin_>oi
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10:26<kurumin>Fala chará
10:26<kurumin>snd_intel8x0, I will seek, only moment
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10:27<JasonS>!br
10:27<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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10:27<kurumin>lsmod
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10:28<kurumin>modprobe snd-intel8x0
10:28<kurumin>modprobe snd-pcm-oss
10:28<kurumin>modprobe snd-mixer-oss
10:29<kurumin>Sorry
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10:29<kurumin>modprobe snd_mixer_oss
10:29<wouterl>drivers are loaded
10:29<wouterl>would it be a driver problem?
10:29<wouterl>sorry, could it be ...
10:29<kurumin>Do you try krec?
10:30<kurumin>Do you tried krec?
10:31<wouterl>nope, only the sound recorder from gnome
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11:01<ranix>How can I see what partitions my swap space is on, and how much of it I have?
11:01<ranix>what devices they're on, rather
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11:02<fxiny>fdisk -l
11:02<ranix>thanks
11:02<fxiny>np
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11:06<stroyan>ranix: cat /proc/swaps will show you what swap is really active. (And that doesn't need root permission.)
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11:18<simonrvn>neither does /sbin/swapon -s
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11:21<wouterl>I can't record sound from my mic. Driver is snd-intel8x0. Capture is set on mic in alsamixer. Playing sound etc works, even playback. Where can I find extra information etc?
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11:28<wurstbrot>hi, does someone knows a way how i can keep a folder up to date over ssh in the console?
11:29<dkr>wurstbrot: rsync
11:29<wurstbrot>thx
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11:34<ranix>thanks
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11:35<yos87>hi
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11:46<mikkel>what are your thoughts on eBox? i mean its sarge.. that because of security or?
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11:47<simonrvn>sarge is oldstable...
11:47<mikkel>simonrvn: and more secure than etch or?
11:48<simonrvn>etch is current stable. think about what you just said
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11:48<mikkel>so i wont run into trouble using sarge?
11:49<yos87>Hi,
11:49<yos87>My mplayer stop responding, I tried to stop it by killing the signal, it didn't helped me, I restart my pc from the cause, and now my os is no longer working, it's forcing for the check and it stop on 27% and then it say system terminated , enter root password for maintenence, I past the screenshot here: http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/187/200709113605lm7.jpg somebody can help me?
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11:49<simonrvn>mikkel: in 6 months or so, that will be *unsupported*
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11:50<mikkel>aw that sucks.. the web interface had all i needed for a router :(
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11:50<dkr>yos87: you don't know the root password?
11:50<simonrvn>then grab from it what you want
11:51<yos87>dkr: of course I know
11:51<dkr>yos87: yuo have to enter roo tpassword, then run fsck manually as the instructions on the screen tell you
11:51<dkr>yos87: fsck /dev/sda1
11:51<yos87>dkr: ok, I will do
11:51<dkr>and then upgrade to ext3 so you don't have to worry about fsck again int he future. :)
11:52<dkr>at least, not at boot
11:52<mikkel>simonrvn: well i tried but it turns out that apt really dont want any of the packages hehe. getting some "depends - but is not going to be installed" msg's
11:52<yos87>dkr: I have ext3
11:52<yos87>dkr: now it's fixing someting
11:52<dkr>yos87: cool
11:53<mikkel>guess they just didnt maintain it or something :/
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11:54<yos87>dkr: finish, the I reboot?
11:54<dkr>yos87: you can just exit the shell and it should continue boot process
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11:54<dkr>or maybe it reboots when you exit maintenance shell. either way. :)
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11:56<simonrvn>mikkel: i was thinking more grab the files and such. you'll have to figure out the deps and see if there's anything more recent
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11:57<yos87>dkr: thank you, it worked
11:57<mikkel>simonrvn: sounds like a total remake :o dont think im up for something like that since im a newb
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11:57<mikkel>cant write perl.. thats the main problem.. rest.. maybe ;)
11:58<simonrvn>yeh, taking apart a .deb and putting it back together isn't light work sometimes
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12:38<amex>Like diablo? Then join to brand new server for free! Info: .:: street-d2 On-Line ::. street-d2 .:: Web ::http://www.parok.ten.lt ::. #street-d2 .:: IP:213.164.102.204 ::. street-d2 .:: Street patch download from http://www.parok.ten.lt/ ::. #street-d2 .:: (amex)'
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13:15<schoappied>hey, I tried to install a new 'kmenu' kicker, but now I have no panel anymore... help needed!
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13:15<prahal>start kicker from an xterm
13:16<prahal>you could go in a console , export DISPLAY=:0 , then run xterm
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13:18<schoappied>prahal:
13:18<schoappied>dirk@debiandirk:~$ export DISPLAY=:0
13:18<schoappied>dirk@debiandirk:~$ xterm
13:18<schoappied>bash: xterm: command not found
13:18|-|schoappied kicked [#debian] debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
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13:19<wietz0r>shogunx: install xterm ?
13:20<prahal>hum try konsole
13:20<baastrup>im having problems with evolution and exchange, cant login via owa
13:22<schoappied>ok xterm is installed now, and I've open it
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13:23<schoappied>kickoff: command not found
13:23<blunted>schoappied, type kicker &
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13:25<schoappied>dirk@debiandirk:~$ export DISPLAY=:0
13:25<schoappied>dirk@debiandirk:~$ xterm
13:25<schoappied>bash: xterm: command not found
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13:25<schoappied>oeps sorry, wrong paste :?
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13:27<schoappied>kicker: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so)
13:27<Myon>uhm, generally don't try to install non-Debian packages
13:27<Myon>you probably got some borked package from the web
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13:28<schoappied>I've learned that the best way now... the hard way :(
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13:28<schoappied>it was a Ubuntu package, I must admit
13:29<schoappied>but they say it will work.... but I had to be wiser...
13:29<schoappied>but now I like to have my panel back ;)
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13:31<Myon>if it was only one package, grab the Debian .deb and install that
13:32<schoappied>Myon: there's no Debian.deb
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13:33<schoappied>prahal: what to do with the 'kicker-message'?
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13:41<baktaah>excuse me, could someone please help me install agn 4965 AGN intel wireless?
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13:46<cahoot>you want stereo help?
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13:47<schoappied>prahal, Myon?
13:49<schoappied>how can I start Kmenu with a command/ konsole?
13:50<Supaplex>!+listvals 4965
13:50<dpkg>Factoid search of '4965' by value (2): iwlwifi ;; ipw4965.
13:50<Supaplex>!tell baktaah about ipw4965
13:50<patty>oh hey
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13:51<patty>that's like the one thing i can do... oh wait, nm. wrong number. i read 4965 as 3945
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13:52<tfrei>!tell tfrei about ipw3945
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13:54<JasonS>well that would be why i couldnt indentify, too stupid to use the correct nick
13:54<baktaah>Supaplex, didnt do much for me
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13:54<Supaplex>baktaah: which issue? what were you expecting?
13:55<patty>for ipw3945, run this: aptitude install ipw3945d ipw3945-source firmware-ipw3945 module-assistant ipw3945-modules-`uname -r`
13:56<patty>actually, do the last two seperate and first. apt-get module-assistant ipw3945-modules-"uname-r"
13:57<Supaplex>that's great, but he asked about ipw4965 and sources.list.
13:57<patty>tfrei asked about 3945
13:57<patty>different guy...
13:58<Supaplex>ahh I see
13:59<patty>i personally believe the entire earth should just share one wireless card, and we'll all have ethernet and land lines connecting to it
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14:06<EmleyMoor>When I share a directory with samba, does the share include filesystems whose mount points are in that directory?
14:08<schoappied>I've download kxdocker, I have a panel now, but can't get access to Kmenu or the 'panel-section' in Kcontrol.. help needed!
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14:18<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to see what UDMA modes my various disks are in?
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14:18<witte>EmleyMoor: I think you can see that with hdparm
14:19<witte>EmleyMoor: but you should look at its manual first
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14:21<stroyan>EmleyMoor: The default share includes mount points below the directory. You can prune them off one by one with the "dont descend" directive.
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14:22<EmleyMoor>If two of my disks are UDMA100 and one is UDMA66, is it better to have both 100s on the same channel?
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14:27<schoappied>(problem with the panel solved by installing kicker with the debian-etch-backports)
14:27<stroyan>EmleyMoor: Maybe. It depends on the controller. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confTiming-c.html
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14:32<EmleyMoor>stroyan: Hmmm... I see
14:33<EmleyMoor>It looks like one of my drives may be PIO only...
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14:33<EmleyMoor>My new controller has arrived too... but I haven't time to fit it now
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14:36<EmleyMoor>Well, my drives are 2x 100 and 2x 66 as it happens... and my DVD drives to add...
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14:37<EmleyMoor>Just looking to see what they are
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14:41<fgh>im looking for a small program for my ipod, anyone with any tip?
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14:41<yosef>hi
14:41<wietz0r>Hi
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14:42<yosef>I have question, if I start a backgroud job, how can I keep it even the terminal is closed?
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14:42<fgh>yosef: use screen
14:42<wietz0r>or nohup
14:42<yosef>fgh: what use screen? how?
14:43<yosef>fgh: screen is a package?
14:43<fgh>yes
14:43<wietz0r>nohup
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14:43<yosef>wietz0r: you have the quick syntax for the nohup
14:44<wietz0r>yosef: nohup <command> > /dev/null &
14:44<wietz0r>_should_ work
14:44<wietz0r>if you want the command output to be logged you do nohup <command> > logfile &
14:44<wietz0r>but I'm not sure
14:45<tcsetattr>also, the disown shell builtin (in zsh and bash) tells the shell not to kill a job when the terminal dies. and you can apply it to an existing job!
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14:47<yosef>wietz0r: I think it is working here
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14:47<wietz0r>:)
14:47<john>hi there , anyone good with exim4 and smarthost? I have been reading and trying to do this for a week with no luck, If I set it up directly to do mail then I get errors from some addresses I send to that name is not qualified, If I set it to do smarthost then I get login errors even though I modified the passwd file in etc/exim4 .... I dont get it
14:48<yosef>tcsetattr: the disown is not installed by diffault, isn't it?
14:48<tcsetattr>it's built in to the shell, so yes it is.
14:49|-|mode/#debian [+l 340] by debhelper
14:49<tcsetattr>it's not a standard POSIX/Bourne sh feature, but bash has it, and zsh has had it forever
14:49<yosef>why they made cahnnel limit to 340?
14:50<Supaplex>bot floods
14:50<yosef>it become 900 sometimes on the freenode
14:50<weasel>yosef: it grows if more people join, it shrinks when people leave
14:50<tcsetattr>number of people idle less than a week: about 20
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14:51<yosef>anyhow, most of them are not active, so no traffic, isn't it?
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14:54<yosef>wietz0r: is it possible to check what happen to the job?
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14:57<yosef>how can I run schedule a job to be run in a certine time?
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15:00<tcsetattr>"at" for a one-time scheduled job, crontab for a job repeated at regular intervals
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15:37<chantanito>hi
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15:37<chantanito>can anybody tell me if there's a c binary analyzer? does such a thing exist?
15:38<chantanito>i'm not looking for source code analyzers, like flawfinder....
15:38<Myon>gdb, binutils, elfutils
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15:41<chantanito>thanks Myon
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15:43<chantanito>many thanks Myon
15:43<chantanito>:)
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15:47[~]john threatens to kill his exim4
15:47[~]themill hands john a shotgun
15:48<john>i swear whoever wrote it is into torture
15:48<john>thanks themill I was thinking my 357 mag revolver would do the job
15:48<weasel>you never know. better get a larger caliber
15:48<aptituz>hehe
15:48<themill>exim4; feeling lucky? well are ya?
15:49|-|mode/#debian [+l 325] by debhelper
15:49<john>LOL
15:49<john>I have been at it for a week, I could almost write how tos ... and still right where I started
15:49<aptituz>hm.. i'm not sure if it needs a shotgun for exim4
15:49<aptituz>it is such a big complex monster, that i think that one needs the ghost busters to get it right
15:50<john>yeah
15:50<john>or a tank
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15:50<aptituz>.oO( thats why our default system removes exim and installs postfix ;)
15:50<john>actually happily, a magnet is a solution to any problem
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15:51<aptituz>worst thing in exim is the complexicity of routers and transports and especially this conditional lang
15:51<john>so is anyone here good with exim and have working outgoing mail with it?
15:51<petemc>aptituz: the router arent complex
15:51<petemc>routers..
15:51<aptituz>the latter is more worse then lisp
15:51<petemc>aptituz: exim is simple, its very flexible, and that can be percieved as complicated, but its not, really
15:52<john>its like a woman, you'll never make it happy, just less unhappy
15:52<aptituz>petemc: ah. i mean the whole concept. it can be realised much easier, i think
15:52<petemc>i disagree, but there ya go
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15:52<petemc>acls control if the mail is accepted, routers decide where it goes, transports do the delivery
15:52<aptituz>ok, lets see it this way: it can be more complex
15:52<john>I just need it to send !@$$ mail
15:53<john>and not give me a hard time about it
15:53<aptituz>like: constructing your configuration from m4 scripts
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15:53<petemc>john: then debconf should be able to configure exim for your needs
15:53<aptituz>yes
15:53<aptituz>i second this. debconf provides reasonable defaults for exim.
15:53<john>if I configure it for "internet site direct mail" then i get rejected from some mail servers i send to with need qualified domain name, if i do smarthost i get auth errors
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15:54<petemc>john: exim4 -bP primary_hostname
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15:54<john>petemc, localhost
15:55<petemc>see, thats not right
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15:55<petemc>but, you should use your isps smarthost
15:55<aptituz>petemc: don't get me wrong btw. i have worked with exim for years, so i'm quiet familiar with it, but i felt that its hard to get there
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15:55<john>been looking for how to set it but none of the docs out there tell you how
15:55<aptituz>especially writing conditions for a router is a pain
15:55<petemc>john: what does isps mailserver need?
15:55<john>they just say either fix /etc/hosts or the primary_hostname
15:55<petemc>right, thats correct
15:56<john>petemc, a qualified hostname
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15:56<petemc>hostname -f
15:56<petemc>exim will use the output of that for primary_hostname
15:56<john>localhost
15:56<petemc>unless you set it explicitly
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15:56<petemc>john: so fix that that
15:56<john>where is the -f set?
15:56<john>where do i fix it?
15:56<petemc>edit /etc/hosts : ipaddress foo.bar.com foo
15:57<petemc>but again, you should use your isps mailserver
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15:57<john>you might be my excedrin , but i did edit it ... and it doesnt seem to work still perhaps i did it wrong
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15:59<john>i have 3 lines in /etc/hosts one is my website on here so 127.0.0.1 mysite.com then 127.0.0.1 Electric.mysite.com then 127.0.0.1 localhost
15:59<john>so what is wrong with that? do I completely remove localhost?
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16:00<petemc>no, you should have a line for localhost
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16:00<petemc>add another line, with the address of eth0
16:00<petemc>and as above..
16:01<john>so eth0 mysite.com
16:01<petemc>no, read back..
16:01<john>would it not be easier to just shove the primary_hostname into a exim config file...
16:02<petemc>this is easy
16:02<petemc>you're making hard work of it, tho
16:02<john>i am reading back but not following, perhaps i have frustrated and confused myself trying to do this for a week
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16:03<petemc>ipaddress www.mysite.com wwww
16:03<petemc>erm, just 3 w's at the end there..
16:03<john>k did that
16:03<petemc>hostname -f
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16:04<john>localhost
16:04<petemc>remove those localhost lines, leave "127.0.0.1 localhost"
16:04<petemc>and the other line you just put in..
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16:05<john>k they are gone but still localhost for -f
16:05<petemc>h
16:05<Myon>a neat trick is to use "127.0.1.1 foo.bar.com foo"
16:05<petemc>whats in /etc/hostname ?
16:05<john>mysite.com
16:06<petemc>change that to www
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16:06<john>k done
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16:07<john>still localhost for -f though.... i remember trying this the other day till i wanted to throw this machine out the window...
16:07<fa2>good evening
16:07<fa2>i just installed debian
16:07<fa2>can i ask someone about ssh setup?
16:07<petemc>john: run dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config , look for the question that has localhost filled in for the answer, change that
16:07<john>k one sec
16:07<petemc>fa2: install openssh-server
16:08<petemc>Myon: would you do that over having a line for the ip of the other interface?
16:08<petemc>if its dynamic, perhaps?
16:08<fa2>was it included with the original debian instalation?
16:08<fa2>or do i need to get it somewhere?
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16:09<petemc>aptitude install openssh-server
16:09<john>petemc, i tried that, and ran the exim4-bP ..... and it still comes up with localhost
16:10<petemc>exim4 -bP primary_hostname
16:10<john>localhost
16:10<petemc>did you change anything when configuring exim this time?
16:11<john>yeah the only spot it said localhost is the "other sites to accept mail for"
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16:11<petemc>ah, no
16:11<john>so i changed it
16:11<petemc>theres a question about your name..
16:11<petemc>go through it again, read the questions
16:11<chealer>fa2: it wasn't included, unless you selected it
16:12<fa2>wasnt an option chealer
16:12<chealer>fa2: it should have been, you most likely didn't see it though
16:12<Myon>petemc: if its dynamic yes, static no
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16:12[~]Myon should probably read more context
16:12<petemc>Myon: useful, ta
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16:15<john>petemc, i went through it again, for like the 1000th time in the past week .... I think I have everything right ... but it still comes up with localhost
16:16<petemc>can you pastebin /etc/hosts
16:16<john>pastebin?
16:16<petemc>and /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
16:17<petemc>yeah, websites let you paste stuff
16:17<john>can I msg it to you?
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16:17<petemc>too much work to pastebin it?
16:17<john>not 100% sure where to do so ....
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16:18<petemc>well, forgive me if this seems rude, but if you cant figure that out running a mailserver may well be beyond your complexity horizon
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16:21<john>it does seem rude, but at the same time I understand why you would say such a thing.... I do not hang out in irc a lot so your lingo is not very familiar.... when you say pastebin and give me your short how to I think, ok set up a webpage? I have set up some.... but I would think it would be easier to msg you the info... so if you preffer I will set up a website, run apache and then give you the address.... but yeah 15min compared to 1 min of pasti
16:21<john>ng.....
16:21<petemc>google for pastebin
16:22<petemc>i'll admit "websites let you paste stuff" is at best vague and at worst misleading
16:24<dkr>john: why do you quadruple your periods? ;)
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16:25<john>petemc, doing it now.... thanks
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16:26<dkr>you could also run "/msg dpkg paster" as per the channel topic. hrm "paster" does seem to be less used name than "pastebin" though
16:26<Supaplex>!pastebin howto
16:26<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin howto is step 1. open web browser. step 2. go to http://rafb.net/paste step 3. choose 'plain text'. step 4. select text for input, and paste into input form. (ask someone if you don't know how). step 5, click "Paste" button to upload. step 6, select the url in your address bar, and paste that url here.
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16:30<john>petemc, i just posted it as johnS
16:30<petemc>you need get a url
16:31<john>http://pastebin.com/d4b8caf7e
16:31<john>brb one sec bathroom
16:33<Supaplex>and I thought I was fast in the bathroom.
16:33<Supaplex>1s? wow.
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16:34<john>damn, got called to work, i will be a half hour or so, if anyone has any ideas please let me know, i will be back asap, cant get fired
16:34<petemc>change /etc/hosts
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16:35<petemc>208.98.128.22 www.fruitlandelectric.com www
16:35<petemc>that should be you..
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16:37<petemc>john: that ip is one several blacklists, people will reject your mail regardless, be sure to use your isps outgoing server
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16:48<JasonS>or contact your isp and get rdns etc set up properly
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17:00<knovak>are there any mouse drawing tablets that work especially well in Debian?
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17:12<mapez>Hey, I need to make a concept web for a class http://www.k12.nf.ca/stmichaelselem/Christmas%20Poems/group%201/group1.GIF . I was wondering if there were any open source apps out there that can generate them for me..
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17:12<Nandus>hallo
17:13<sysadmin>hello as well
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17:13<Nandus>maybe you can help me what is the diference between the i386 and amd64 image
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17:13<ricky>mapez: Perhaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept_mapping_software might be useful.
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17:14<ricky>mapez: In particular, I've heard of FreeMind, but I haven't used it.
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17:14<goddamn>amd64 is for 64 bit architecture cpus and i386 is for the older cpus
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17:14<Nandus^needs^help>ok i had an Intel Core2Duo as processor
17:14<goddamn>64
17:14<mapez>Nandus.. i386 is essentially for older processors and amd64 is for 64 bit processors.. however.. there isnt a ton of 64 bit support.
17:14<mapez>ricky. thank you! you may allow a man to get this done in an hour and maybe make a hot date tonight?.. we'll see.
17:14<Nandus^needs^help>k i choose i386 because of Prallels
17:14<Nandus^needs^help>thx for your help
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17:15<ricky>mapez: Well, if you're desperate, a neat paper/pencil map *can* work.
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17:15<ricky>mapez: And "faking" it with Inkscape could do it as well.
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17:16<goddamn>i have a very basic system installed and downloaded kde and x-windows, however when i type "startx" my screen just goes into sleep modus, could that be a result of missing graphics driver ???
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17:16<baktaah>Excuse me, I've been trying to install my nvidia gfx card, but there is no nvidia-kernel-common as they say in the guide
17:16<baktaah>maybe there is something wrong with my repos?
17:16<baktaah>there is no nvidia-glx-new either
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17:26<buka>hola
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17:28<baktaah>hola
17:29<chealer>baktaah: you need a contrib APT source
17:29<baktaah>chealer, contrib?
17:30<chealer>!contrib
17:30<dpkg>well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free) To get packages in contrib, add lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free>
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17:39<john>back
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17:41<elvis2>i still cant get me drive to write and read in ntfs format :( 3g isnt working
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17:42<elvis2>any one help making it rite ? i need to delete files of it
17:43<john>petemc, you still around?
17:43<petemc>sure am
17:43<petemc>did you see what i posted just after you left?
17:43<john>put that line in /etc/hosts, still reads localhost
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17:43<john>yes
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17:44<petemc>did you remove the other 127.0.0.1 line?
17:44<john>yes
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17:45<petemc>can you pastbin /etc/hosts and the output of ifconfig
17:45<john>yeah one sec
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17:46<john>http://pastebin.com/d7e801003
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17:47<petemc>john: reverse the order of the lines, remove Electric
17:47<john>k
17:47<petemc>oh, wait
17:47<petemc>change 208.98.128.22 to 192.168.1.16
17:48<john>k
17:48<petemc>you're using a router doing port forwarding to the debian box?
17:48<john>yes
17:48<john>have to actually wierd routing here
17:48<petemc>might have been worth mentioning that
17:48<john>2 separate networks
17:49<john>now i got some wierd stuff
17:49<john>sorry
17:49<john>hostname: Unknown host
17:49<john>primary_hostname = Electric
17:49<petemc>pastebin hosts again..
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17:50<john>http://pastebin.com/d50e18639
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17:51<petemc>that looks fine
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17:51<petemc>and not like anything that would make exim think electric is its hostname
17:51<petemc>exim just uses system calls..
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17:51<john>so it is no biggie that hostname -f does not find a hostname?
17:52<petemc>no, it should
17:52<petemc>what does it say now?
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17:53<john>it says unknown host, and i get the helo need fully qualified domain when i send too
17:53<petemc>whats in /etc/hostname ?
17:53<john>www.fruitlandelectric.com
17:54<petemc>im 100% sure thats not what i told you to put in there
17:54<john>you said www
17:54<petemc>right
17:54<john>i assumed you meant add it to fruitland
17:54<john>sorry
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17:55<john>k now it says www
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17:56<john>i have seen the same mail error since i started... wish it would just work.... Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname
17:56<petemc>have you not yet grasped that when hostname -f says the right thing, that will be fixed?
17:56<john>yeah i think so .... i put www but hostname -f is still saying unknown host
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17:59<elvis2>how do i force my external hard drive to mount to a specif part when mounted so i can force it to use 3g?
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18:02<blq>hi
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18:06<john>petemc, I am googling ways to fix this, just wondering if you had any more ideas
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18:06<petemc>john: grep -R Electric /etc
18:07<dkr>elvis2: add it to /etc/fstab?
18:08<john>2 ssh keys and /etc/motd:Linux Electric 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 00:47:00 UTC 2007 i686
18:08<petemc>dont paste here
18:08<petemc>oh, ok
18:08<elvis2>dkr it is usb and seems to keep changing
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18:10<dkr>elvis2: hrm, maybe you can config the hotplug code. /etc/hotplug/usb
18:11<dkr>I've never messed with it myself
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18:12<blq>I actually removed one of my nics, is there a way to change the "name" of a networkcard from eth1 to eth0?
18:12<john>petemc, is there a file I can just put primary_hostname into exim ? sounds easy, but sure it isnt....
18:13<dkr>blq: yeah, uhm, with arguments to the module. /etc/modules.conf I think. I had to do it once a long tiem ago when ekrnel upgrade swapped my eth0 and eth1
18:13<amphi>blq: ifrename perhaps
18:13<elvis2>bbs
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18:14<petemc>john: im not 100% sure how to do it the debian way, you set it in main in a "normal" exim config
18:14<blq>okay, thank you! - i'll try that
18:14<petemc>john: look in /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/
18:14<john>petemc, yeah went there.... and googled it.... there does not appear to be any good docs on where to put it.
18:14<petemc>john: can you ping www.fruitlandelectric.com ?
18:15<petemc>john: im sure there are docs
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18:15<john>yes i can ping it comes up as local ip
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18:16<petemc>john: yet, hostname -f says unknown?
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18:16<john>correct
18:16<tcsetattr>ltrace hostname -f
18:17<john>hostname -f come up unknown host
18:19<sam_>can i edit a grub menu.list with nano?
18:19<sam_>or does it have a tool?
18:19<john>tcsetattr, thats wierd never used ltrace before.... says gethostbyname is Electric
18:19<ricky>sam_: A normal text editor should be fine.
18:20<tcsetattr>look for the failing part.
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18:21<john>failing part
18:22<tcsetattr>if you need someone to explain to you how to tell which function is failing in the ltrace output, please place a dollar in the slot of your IRC machine
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18:23<john>lol
18:23<john>done
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18:24<john>petemc, http://pastebin.com/d2c87515b
18:25<john>do not know if that will help or not....
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18:26<tcsetattr>gethostbyname() returning NULL is a failure.
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18:27<john>but it did say it got electric in there somewhere.... i think we want it to say www.fruitlandelectric.com or something.... actually anything that will go through a smtp server without getting hung by need fully qualified name would be nice
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18:28<tcsetattr>your hostname "Electric" is not in your /etc/hosts at all.
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18:29<tcsetattr>if it was in there, gethostbyname would find it.
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18:29<john>yeah we took it out because when I put it in there it comes up hostname -f as localhost
18:30<john>so in assumption that is why mail was failing to go through the smtp server i need it to go through
18:30<tcsetattr>what's an electric fruit anyway? is that like when you power a light bulb with electrodes stuck in a lemon
18:30<john>ROFLOL
18:32<john>nah, I am broke down here with my pregnant other half, I have done a lot of networking and security camera setups... so the boss here of fruitland idaho's electric company wants me to get some other stuff going for him as well as the networking i did
18:32<tcsetattr>your short hostname (as determined by the "hostname" command without -f) should exist in /etc/hosts, and it should be on the same line as your fqdn. the fqdn should be first though. (actually second, the IP address is first)
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18:32<john>in exchange he bough me the parts and is giving us money, even took my wife and I up in his plane today
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18:33<tcsetattr>ok we don't need to hear your life story, let's stop before the part about the mile-high club
18:33<john>tcsetattr, so it should go 127.0.0.1 localhost then 192.168.1.16 www.fruitlandelectric.com electric ?
18:34<john>just answering your question
18:34<tcsetattr>that would possibly be an improvement.
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18:35<tcsetattr>that's what an /etc/hosts line looks like. an IP address first, then the full name, then a list of alternate names, including shortened versions of the main name
18:35<john>I think it worked omg , brb gonna check
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18:40<john>petemc, tcsetattr thanks guys, i think it worked.... gotta make some calls to see if it went through to the problem smtp server but this time there were NO errors... you guys rock... thanks a million
18:41<petemc>what does hostname -f say now?
18:41<john>www.fruitlandelectric.com
18:41<petemc>hmm, all good
18:42<john>appears so .... a week of migranes are over I think
18:42<petemc>tcsetattr: how does Electric fit in that scenario? i always just use www as the shortname..
18:43<tcsetattr>Electric is the hostname his kernel is set to, probably from /etc/hostname.
18:43<tcsetattr>and it is pretty dumb to use a short name that isn't a portion of the long name, but it works fine as long as you have thme paired up in /etc/hosts
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19:15<lampar>wich sound server would you recomend me?
19:15<lampar>I was using esd
19:15<lampar>but now, I'm using pulseaudio
19:15<lampar>It's great
19:15<lampar>but
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19:16<themill>!tell lampar about enter
19:17<lampar>oh, sorry
19:17<Snapser>how do I fix the clock to use a timezone? (or to stop using one)
19:17<Snapser>atm the clock is wrong on Linux. but correct on Windows
19:17<lampar>set it up to UTC
19:17<Snapser>how do I do that on Gnome~?
19:17<Snapser>lol
19:18<Snapser>n/m
19:18<Snapser><3<3<3 thanks~
19:18<themill>Snapser: set the clock NOT to utc.
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19:18<Snapser>one checkbox fixed the clock~ <3
19:19<lampar>if the bios clock is configured with UTC, then set it up to your timezone.
19:19<themill>Snapser: that will still be wrong at the command line.
19:19<themill>lampar: windoze can't cope with bios clock in utc though.
19:20<Snapser>you're correct
19:20<tcsetattr>I wonder how hard it would be to reverse-engineer it and cook up a patch for windoze that makes it read the hwclock as UTC
19:21<Snapser>commandline= incorrect
19:21<themill>tcsetattr: easy... it's called a linux install disk... ;)
19:21<Snapser>so should I set the time to be correct using "date"?
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19:21<themill>Snapser: edit /etc/default/rcS and set UTC=no. After a reboot it should be fixed.
19:22<Snapser>yay~ brb~
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19:28<simonrvn>themill: hehe
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19:35<Snapser>Setting UTC to yes/no doesn't affect the clock
19:36<Snapser>UTC was initially set to "yes" in /etc/default/rcS, so I set it to "no" and rebooted, and the time is the same :(
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19:40<themill>Snapser: I was about to say that some dicking with hwclock would be necessary too (before you left). you'll need to hwclock --systohc after you've set the correct time I think. It's too late here for me to think straight for that one. You're half-way there though ;)
19:40<g8se>anyone online who has got the contrib plugins in the etch twiki package working?
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19:44<Snapser>after I set the correct time?
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20:06<maxx_>hola
20:06<lupine_85>おはよ
20:07<lupine_85>!ar
20:07<dpkg>somebody said ar was argon or a program to create, modify, and extract from archives (man ar), or in binutils, or argentina
20:07<lupine_85>lol, silly bot
20:07<azeem>lupine_85: there's really no need to pull those factoids until somebody consistently speaks non-english
20:08<azeem>saying "hi" in your native english shouldn't much of a problem
20:08<azeem>(though I can see where this is heading, of course)
20:08<lupine_85>righty-ho
20:08<maxx_>argentina?
20:08<azeem>maxx_: land of the debconf
20:08<maxx_>dpkg sos de argentina?
20:09<azeem>no
20:09<azeem>dpkg is a bot
20:09<maxx_>ok
20:09<maxx_>thanx
20:09<azeem>maxx_: please write in english, or go to #debian-es
20:09<azeem>!es
20:09<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
20:09<maxx_>sorry
20:09<azeem>np
20:09<maxx_>and thanx
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21:01<rodolfo>hello
21:02<rodolfo>can someone help me with xorg
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21:03<rodolfo>I'm trying to put translucency my desktop and when i put the section extensions i got a parse error
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21:06<maxamillion>rodolfo: please pastebin your xorg.conf ... i will take a look at it
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21:07<rodolfo>maxamillion, ok
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21:11<rodolfo>maxamillion, http://pastebin.ca/693073 i had to comment the section extensions coz it didn't work
21:11<maxamillion>ok, just a moment
21:12<rodolfo>maxamillion, thank mate
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21:13<roger>hola
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21:13<roger>alguien me podria ayudar con un problema q tengo con alsa?
21:13<chealer>!tell roger about es
21:14<maxamillion>rodolfo: i don't know why you are getting an error ... i have the composite extension enabled and it looks verbatim to what you have written there
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21:18<rodolfo>maxamillion, well mate me neither, let me write you down my output error.
21:18<rodolfo>maxamillion, http://pastebin.ca/693082
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21:20<maxamillion>rodolfo: hmm... just a moment, let me read through a couple things
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21:22<maxamillion>rodolfo: something i find strange is the fact that it says "error on line 173" but your config file is only 157 lines long
21:24<rodolfo>actually i commented or deleted some lines above i copied from the console without X
21:24<maxamillion>ah ok
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21:25<maxamillion>well, it sounds more like there is a syntax error somewhere else other than this and the parse error just isn't happening until it hits Section "Extensions" which is why that's what get thrown in the error message
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21:26<rodolfo>maxamillion, so any clue how can i fix it?
21:27<maxamillion>rodolfo: not without seeing the entire file, no
21:27<rodolfo>maxamillion, ok thank mate
21:28<maxamillion>np
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21:37<patricio>hey guys....got a small issue here, I am running Lenny and my wireless card 'wlan0' looses connection to DHCP server/router at boot.....I have to ifdown and then ifup to make it work......any ideas of what is going on?
21:37<patricio>or a quick fix?
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21:38<chealer>patricio: it "loses the connection at boot"? it's connected when it's off?
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21:39<maxamillion>patricio: you might want to check your config in /etc/network/interfaces ...
21:39<maxamillion>that's just my opinion of where i would check
21:40<patricio>chealer: how r u??? when I boot up, I can see on the screen that the 'wlan0' does make a connection to the dhcp router and gets an ip......after I login through the GUI, I do a ifconfig and its not configured......I have to do a ifdown and then a ifup to wlan0 to get it to work
21:41<patricio>I added this to the file: auto wlan0
21:41<patricio>thats all
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21:42<patricio>I know I am missing something very simple
21:43<patricio>!paste
21:43<dpkg>Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
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21:44<chealer>patricio: what does grep DHCP syslog.0; output?
21:44<patricio>here is my interfaces file.....please advise: http://paste.debian.net/36876
21:45<patricio>one moment please
21:46<patricio>chealer: what is the correct command line?
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21:46<chealer>patricio: # grep DHCP /var/log/syslog.0
21:46<patricio>chealer: grep DHCP syslog.0; gives me nothing.....no such file or dir
21:46<patricio>one moment please
21:47<tcsetattr>I'd look in /var/log/daemon.log for that stuff
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21:48<patricio>chealer: I see no errors
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21:49<chealer>patricio: the output would be interesting nevertheless
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21:49<patricio>chealer: one moment please and I can post it
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21:53<patricio>chealer: here ya go: http://paste.debian.net/36877
21:54<chealer>patricio: when did you boot the machine?
21:55<patricio>tcsetattr: this is what I found where you said to look....http://paste.debian.net/36878
21:55<patricio>chealer: right before I logged into here a few minutes ago
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21:57<chealer>patricio: please provide your /var/log/boot
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22:01<patricio>chealer: var/log/boot says "Nothing has been looged yet"
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22:02<chealer>patricio: is bootlogd enabled?
22:02<patricio>chealer: I have no idea.....could you please advise on that?
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22:03<chealer>patricio: what does $ grep ENABLE /etc/default/bootlogd; output?
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22:04<patricio>chealer: no
22:04<irc_555>Hi, I run an Apache server 2.2.3 and a MySQL server, with a phpBB forum: I know this is not a specific debian question. But within the last three days the table containing the forum has been wiped twice, while the sql port is closed from the outside. I suspect I been "cracked" anyone who would suspect the please say yes, thanks
22:04<chealer>patricio: enable it, then reboot and provide the log file
22:05<patricio>okie dokie......thanx chealer....here I go
22:05<Snapser>Is Pidgin any good?
22:05<chealer>Snapser: ask #pidgin
22:06<tcsetattr>asking #pidgin if pidgin is any good sounds like asking #gentoo if gentoo is any good.
22:06<Snapser>it seems a little empty~ :S
22:06<chealer>Snapser: freenode's
22:06<Snapser>lol
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22:06<Snapser>that sounds like biased opinions
22:07<Snapser>it would be like asking #debian if debian is any good...
22:07<Snapser>what I mean to ask is what is a good IM client
22:07<chealer>Snapser: which X session type do you use?
22:07<Snapser>as in Gnome?
22:07<chealer>Snapser: yes
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22:08<Snapser>Gnome :P
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22:13<patricio>chealer: you want the entire file?
22:14<patricio>!paste
22:14<dpkg>Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
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22:15<chealer>patricio: at least the section which tells you that wlan0 is getting an IP at boot
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22:17<patricio>chealer: http://paste.debian.net/36879
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22:19<tcsetattr>looks like a good DHCP setup to me
22:19<chealer>patricio: what does # grep -A3 DHCP.*wlan0 /var/log/syslog.0; output?
22:21<patricio>chealer: http://paste.debian.net/36880
22:22<chealer>I don't understand which go to syslog and which go to daemon.log
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22:23<chealer>patricio: what does # grep -A3 DHCP.*wlan0 /var/log/daemon.log; output?
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22:23<patricio>one moment please
22:25<Supaplex>moment's up.
22:25<isuckatlinux>how hard it is to build deb packages?
22:25<patricio>chealer: http://paste.debian.net/36881
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22:29<chealer>hum, line 32 to 35 is strange
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22:29<chealer>patricio: when does your boot log finish?
22:30<chealer>(precisely; minute:second)
22:31<patricio>chealer: Tue Sep 11 19:11:27 2007:
22:31<dennis>hi. i migrate my server from gentoo to debian etch. on gentoo the ip will assigned by dhcp. now on debian the ip will assigned, but no dhclient says "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable". whats the problem/solution?
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22:33<chealer>patricio: do you use network-manager?
22:34<patricio>chealer: nope
22:34<chealer>patricio: does the problem happen if you don't login in the GUI?
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22:34<patricio>chealer: have not tried that approach....
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22:41<patricio>chealer: any suggestions?
22:41<chealer>patricio: try it. it looks like things go wrong after you login in the GUI.
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22:41<patricio>okie dokie.....brb
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22:52<patricio>chealer: man, whats the darn keys I hit to go to a terminal before the GUI comes up? I dont remember....
22:52<chealer>patricio: Ctrl+Alt+F1
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22:58<patricio>chealer: same thing......
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23:02<patricio>chealer: any thoughts?
23:02<chealer>patricio: I was thinking :)
23:03<patricio>hehehehehe
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23:05<chealer>patricio: can you get an IP by just running # dhclient wlan0; instead of # ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0; ?
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23:07<patricio>chealer: never have ran dhclient wlan0 before.....want me to try?
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23:09<patricio>chealer: let me check that for you
23:09<chealer>patricio: reboot, start the GUI, get the new logs, run # dhclient wlan0; then publish the new logs.
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23:11<patricio>chealer: wow....thats alot....lol
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23:11<patricio>brb
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23:16<patricio>!paste
23:16<dpkg>Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
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23:17<liu>初めてここに来た。
23:18<patricio>chealer: http://paste.debian.net/36883
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23:19<chealer>patricio: syslog doesn't seem to help. just boot and daemon
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23:19<patricio>chealer: ok
23:21<patricio>chealer: this is daemon http://paste.debian.net/36884
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23:23<chealer>patricio: just paste the command in the paster
23:23<chealer>you can concatenate too
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23:23<patricio>chealer: this is 'boot' look at the last lines
23:24<patricio>http://paste.debian.net/36885
23:24<chealer>patricio: please provide your /etc/network/interfaces
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23:25<patricio>chealer: interfaces file http://paste.debian.net/36886
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23:25<Snapser>which repository has the latest? unstable or testing?
23:26<chealer>!tell Snapser about releases
23:27<chealer>patricio: you're using NetworkManager. that must be your problem.
23:27<Snapser><3 chealer
23:28<patricio>chealer: disable it?
23:28<chealer>patricio: unless you need it, yes
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23:36<niru>gsimmons, hello
23:36<liu>hello, niru!
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23:37<patricio>chealer: congrats man.......that did it
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23:38<patricio>chealer: thank you so much for your assistance and patience....
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23:46<Snapser>d4x doesn't like https :(
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23:48<tcsetattr>does anybody have any idea how to use tsearch() and tfind() sanely?
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23:51<Snapser>how do I launch that ncurses based mirror selection tool (the one during the installation)?
23:51<chealer>!tell Snapser about apt-setup
23:51<Snapser><3
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