| --- | Log | opened Sat Sep 15 00:00:08 2007 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Sep 15 2007 |
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| 00:06 | <Corey> | sup hoe |
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| 00:08 | <simonrvn> | hoes are for plowing |
| 00:09 | <simonrvn> | (hoeing, to be precise) |
| 00:09 | <simonrvn> | *rolls eyes* |
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| 00:17 | <Snapser> | What's a good bandwidth metre? |
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| 00:20 | <Supaplex> | wood. |
| 00:20 | <Supaplex> | nono, plastic! |
| 00:20 | <Supaplex> | STEEL! |
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| 00:46 | <usuario> | somoza |
| 00:47 | <usuario> | negrito |
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| 00:48 | <Supaplex> | something like that |
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| 01:02 | <clyice> | Hi there, could someone tell me if there is a 2.6.18 kernel with the 4KSTACK option disabled, and in that case which one? |
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| 01:20 | <alaya> | clyice: no idea, but making your own kernel using the debian sources is not too difficult |
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| 01:55 | <cybe> | Hello everyone. I just installed Debian with Desktop installation on my laptop, and I was using Ubuntu berfore. Everything works fine now, but how do I get the address bar in Nautilus like I had in Ubuntu? |
| 01:56 | <olegb> | cybe: use the "view" menu ? |
| 01:56 | <cybe> | lol -.- Yeah I found it |
| 01:56 | <cybe> | In Preferences |
| 01:56 | <olegb> | hm, i am useing a translation so that might not be the correct term |
| 01:57 | <olegb> | =) |
| 01:57 | <cybe> | View is available here now too, so it was correct :) thanks :D |
| 01:58 | <cybe> | Now I just need to find out how to see the userlist in XChat like I'm used to |
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| 02:13 | <SorenStoutner> | cybe: Congratulations on your move to Debian. |
| 02:13 | <SorenStoutner> | It's been my preference for several years. |
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| 02:17 | <cybe> | Thanks :) |
| 02:18 | [~] | Supaplex 's to |
| 02:18 | <cybe> | I moved from Ubuntu because it had so many preinstalled things I didn't need. But it was a good way for me to start using Linux :) |
| 02:19 | <Supaplex> | redhat had RPM dependency hell, esp between upgrades. I gave up around 7.0. yay debian. <3 |
| 02:19 | <cybe> | ^^ |
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| 02:20 | <Supaplex> | !hug |
| 02:20 | [~] | dpkg hugs supaplex |
| 02:20 | <Supaplex> | the only pkg system that <3's you back ;) |
| 02:21 | <dli> | Supaplex, I wonder whether RH finally fixed up2date? |
| 02:21 | <Supaplex> | I have no desire to find out. |
| 02:22 | <Supaplex> | hehe |
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| 02:33 | <SorenStoutner> | Debian has the smothest update process I've seen yet. |
| 02:34 | <SorenStoutner> | But I do agree that Ubuntu is probably the best way for someone to get started on Linux, and a good solution for simple business workstations. |
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| 02:36 | <Supaplex> | they're awfully big training wheels though |
| 02:36 | <SorenStoutner> | Snapser: You asked earlier about a bandwidth meter. |
| 02:37 | <SorenStoutner> | Are you trying to test your bandwidth or host your own bandwidth meter? |
| 02:37 | <SorenStoutner> | For testing I like speedtest.net. |
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| 02:41 | <Snapser> | SorenStoutner, I was wanting to track my bandwidth usage |
| 02:41 | <Snapser> | for statistics |
| 02:41 | <SorenStoutner> | Do you use KDE? |
| 02:42 | <SorenStoutner> | If you do there is a nice bandwidth meter integrated into Knemo. |
| 02:42 | <cybe> | When I try to apt-get some applications, apt asks me to insert my netinst CD? How can I stop it from doing that and instead get it online? |
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| 02:42 | <SorenStoutner> | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the line for the CD. |
| 02:43 | <cybe> | Okay, thanks again ^^ |
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| 02:44 | <SorenStoutner> | Snapser: After you install the package you can control it from Control Center, Internet and Network, Netowork Monitor. |
| 02:44 | <SorenStoutner> | Activate the statistics. |
| 02:45 | <SorenStoutner> | You can check the totals by left clicking on the icon in the system tray. |
| 02:45 | <SorenStoutner> | You can look at the details by right clicking and opening the statistics. |
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| 02:47 | <Snapser> | I use gnome~ |
| 02:48 | <cybe> | You should be able to run KDE applications in Gnome too, so it may be worth a try? |
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| 02:50 | <SorenStoutner> | http://tinyurl.com/3aybhk |
| 02:50 | <SorenStoutner> | There is a discussion about running it in Gnome. |
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| 02:51 | <SorenStoutner> | Also look at http://tinyurl.com/355smv |
| 02:51 | <SorenStoutner> | Or you could try apt-get install kde knemo. |
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| 02:51 | <SorenStoutner> | Test it out; you might like it. :) |
| 02:52 | <Snapser> | I have already tried KTrafficAnalyzer |
| 02:52 | <Snapser> | It can only monitor one network interface at a time |
| 02:53 | <SorenStoutner> | Knemo doesn't suffer from that problem. However, the bandwidth reports are separate. I don't know of a way to produce a total report that adds them together. |
| 02:54 | <Snapser> | separated by day? |
| 02:54 | <SorenStoutner> | Well, it has a total for the interface, as well as detailed breakdowns. |
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| 02:55 | <SorenStoutner> | But you have to look at each interface separately. |
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| 02:55 | <SorenStoutner> | So you can't say, what's the total for eth0, eth1, eth2. |
| 02:55 | <SorenStoutner> | You have to add them yourself. |
| 02:55 | <Snapser> | hmm |
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| 02:55 | <Snapser> | I wonder where the databases are stored |
| 02:56 | <SorenStoutner> | Althought I'm sure it wouldn't take much coding to teach the program to do it. It has all the data. |
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| 02:56 | <SorenStoutner> | The cool things is I can pull up a detailed report that shows all the data by day for as long as I've had knemo installed. |
| 02:56 | <Snapser> | cool~ |
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| 02:59 | <SorenStoutner> | The data is stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/knemo/statistics_eth0 |
| 02:59 | <SorenStoutner> | It's a straight text file. |
| 02:59 | <Snapser> | that sounds easy to manipulate |
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| 03:00 | <Snapser> | web-based statistics ftw |
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| 03:00 | <SorenStoutner> | Each interface gets it's own file. |
| 03:00 | <Snapser> | yes~ |
| 03:01 | <SorenStoutner> | You can always try things like awstats for web server traffic, but I've discovered it's not that accurate. |
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| 03:01 | <SorenStoutner> | For example, if someone starts downloading a 200 MB file and quites 1 MB in, awstats often records it as 200 MB of traffic. |
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| 03:02 | <Snapser> | lol |
| 03:03 | <Snapser> | knemo is running perfect in Gnome |
| 03:03 | <Snapser> | (I don't have KDE installed) |
| 03:03 | <SorenStoutner> | Nice! |
| 03:03 | <SorenStoutner> | Gotta love open source. |
| 03:03 | <SorenStoutner> | Well, I'm off to bed. |
| 03:03 | <Snapser> | bai~ |
| 03:03 | <Snapser> | thanks for help~ |
| 03:03 | <Snapser> | <3 |
| 03:03 | <SorenStoutner> | Not a problem. |
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| 03:22 | <Requiem> | Anybody know the install size of debian (KDE or xfce)? |
| 03:23 | <Requiem> | And is there a minimal install for graphical mode? |
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| 03:28 | <davi> | amphi, What do you use with compiz KDE or Gnome ? |
| 03:28 | <davi> | I am using Debian etch with some packages upgraded to unstable; compiz, etc. |
| 03:29 | <dli> | Requiem, I remember the minimum size is like 300MB in the / partition |
| 03:30 | <Requiem> | hrm, would work |
| 03:30 | <Requiem> | gah, except Asus is raising the price of the thing like mad |
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| 03:31 | <Requiem> | might as well grab a notebook on the cheap for 500 and get a real hard drive |
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| 03:43 | <cybe> | For security reasons I disabled the root account with "sudo passwd -l root" or something like that, but now I can't update the system because the updater tries to run as root? Can't I make it use sudo? |
| 03:45 | <tcsetattr> | to fully escape ubuntu, you must cleanse your mind of the notion that sudo is supposed to be used for all administrative tasks. That is not what sudo is for! sudo is for giving limited privilegs to certain people, and for creating setuid-like scripts. |
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| 03:46 | <Supaplex> | for security reasons I renamed the root account once. I undid that after discovering it breaks more than I wanted.... |
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| 03:47 | <cybe> | Okay... So what you are saying is that I should reenable the root account? Just thought that is bad for security? |
| 03:47 | <cybe> | *was |
| 03:48 | <tcsetattr> | that's ubunut stupidity. (ubunut was a typo but I decided to keep it. Ubunut. Ubunuttery.) |
| 03:48 | <Supaplex> | you can keep the broken pieces |
| 03:48 | <Supaplex> | or, fix it. |
| 03:49 | <tcsetattr> | you're not supposed to use root for things that don't need it. but there is nothing wrong with having a functional root password, which you use with su. |
| 03:50 | <cybe> | I see. Should I also remove my user from the sudoers file and use su everytime I need to make an administrative task? |
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| 03:51 | <Requiem> | I've always used su for everything |
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| 03:51 | <tcsetattr> | some people are hooked on sudo as a user interface. I think it's a bad habit. su has been used by unix admins for decades. |
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| 03:51 | <tcsetattr> | instead of "sudo this" and "sudo that" you just start a session with su, and run this and that... then exit the root shell |
| 03:51 | <Requiem> | Only real security risk to su is leaving the machine unattended |
| 03:52 | <Requiem> | and if you do that, well, you're possibly screwed anyway |
| 03:52 | <cybe> | Okay, I'll just have to change my habbits then :) |
| 03:52 | <Supaplex> | like strong passwords, and change them every 3000 miles |
| 03:53 | <Requiem> | yes, yes, change the passwords <_< |
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| 03:54 | <Supaplex> | and then change politicians. old passwords and politicians are like diapers. the all need to be changed frequently, and for the same reasons. |
| 03:55 | <cybe> | ;p |
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| 03:56 | <bartm> | shouldn't this always produce the same md5sum ? bzcat file.tar.bz2 | gzip -9 - | md5sum |
| 03:57 | <Supaplex> | no |
| 03:57 | <Supaplex> | man gzip |
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| 03:57 | <tcsetattr> | gzip puts a timestamp in there |
| 03:57 | <cybe> | But I think the use of sudo in Ubuntu is good for new users. They won't have to switch to superuser in another shell, and only have to remember 1 password |
| 03:58 | <Supaplex> | even the gzip payload varies between identical invocations of identical input. |
| 03:58 | <tcsetattr> | it just means their regular password is as good as a root password to anyone who steals it. |
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| 03:58 | <tcsetattr> | having a separate password for administrative tasks, which you use less often, and NEVER inptu into less-well-tested programs, is a benefit |
| 03:58 | <cybe> | Ahh okay, that's right... Didn't think about that |
| 03:58 | <Supaplex> | tcsetattr: like $non-free-os *shudder* |
| 03:58 | <witte> | tcsetattr: for those people it will be the same password anyhow |
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| 03:59 | <bartm> | Supaplex: I can't find that documented in "man gzip" when I look for "time", any suggestions where to look? |
| 03:59 | <Supaplex> | study > search |
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| 04:02 | <tcsetattr> | when you do "file foo.gz", it tells you the modification time of the file inside. |
| 04:02 | <Supaplex> | access and modification times. |
| 04:02 | <Supaplex> | ^^^ quoted from man gzip |
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| 04:03 | <tcsetattr> | I think you quoted the wrong part. that's just about the utime() on the .gz file |
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| 04:05 | <tcsetattr> | the access time of the original isn't stored inside the data stream like the mtime is. |
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| 04:05 | <Xcalo> | could someone help me with a font problem? |
| 04:05 | <Lobezno> | hola q tal |
| 04:05 | <Supaplex> | gzip preserves the mode, ownership and timestamps of files |
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| 04:06 | <Supaplex> | besides, I've seen the filesize vary slightly when running it multiple times on the same input file |
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| 04:07 | <tcsetattr> | supaplex, the question was about comparing a data stream that was piped into gzip. the part you are quoting does not apply to that case. |
| 04:07 | <tcsetattr> | you are confusing the stuff that is "preserved" (=copied) from the input file's inode to the create .gz file's inode ... with the stuff that is stored inside the data stream. |
| 04:07 | <Requiem> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101078 I need to call gateway just to bitch I can't get this thing without windows |
| 04:09 | <cybe> | Requiem: Just don't agree to the Windows agreement, and make them give you back the money for Windows ^^ |
| 04:09 | <Requiem> | heh |
| 04:09 | <bartm> | tcsetattr: so the timestamp displayed by "file foo.tar.gz" is stored inside foo.tar.gz so part of the md5sum calculation? |
| 04:09 | <Supaplex> | ok, nevermind |
| 04:09 | <Requiem> | I should try that |
| 04:09 | <cybe> | Someone did that here in Europe and got the money refunded |
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| 04:09 | <tcsetattr> | yes, it will be considered by md5sum because it's part of the file contents. |
| 04:09 | <Requiem> | cause really, for a 400 dollar notebook, that thing would be really sweet |
| 04:10 | <dli> | cybe, really? |
| 04:10 | <bartm> | cybe: I've heard that it's way too difficult to get a refund |
| 04:10 | <dli> | cybe, I mean the refund for windows |
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| 04:11 | <Requiem> | it's unlikely really, they were probably only able to get a refund in europe cause M$ can't use the same BS OEM contracts they do in the US |
| 04:11 | <bartm> | tcsetattr, Supaplex: ok thanks |
| 04:11 | <Xcalo> | could someone help me a bit with a font problem? using kde with kdm on xorg with latest testing dist and all text is way too large |
| 04:11 | <Requiem> | I can fix that |
| 04:12 | <Supaplex> | Xcalo: stay atleast 2 meters back from the screen. ;) |
| 04:12 | <bartm> | Xcalo: no need to ask for help, just say the problem |
| 04:12 | <Xcalo> | haha, very funny |
| 04:12 | <Supaplex> | hehe jk :) |
| 04:12 | <Xcalo> | well, anyone have a solution? |
| 04:12 | [~] | Supaplex decides to idle in sleep() |
| 04:13 | <tcsetattr> | RFC1952 describes the gzip format. it says "If the compressed data did not come from a file, MTIME is set to the time at which compression started." |
| 04:13 | <Requiem> | Xcalo: Yes |
| 04:13 | [~] | bartm SIGHUPs Supaplex :) |
| 04:13 | <Xcalo> | yay, lets hear it |
| 04:13 | <Requiem> | Xcalo: get into control center, go to Appearance and themes, fonts, and change the DPI to 96 |
| 04:13 | <bartm> | tcsetattr: thanks for the thorough answer, yes that was what I needed to know |
| 04:14 | <Requiem> | if it's still too big, disable the DPI altogether |
| 04:14 | <bartm> | Xcalo: I guess that you'll need to be more specific in the problem description before someone can help you |
| 04:15 | <Xcalo> | i cant really do anything, whenever i press on meny button, super big text is covering the whole screen, so i cant do anything inside kde |
| 04:15 | <Requiem> | um |
| 04:15 | <Requiem> | how big are we talking? |
| 04:15 | <Xcalo> | like |
| 04:15 | <Xcalo> | ... |
| 04:15 | <Xcalo> | maybe 10 letters takes the whole screen |
| 04:16 | <Xcalo> | width that is |
| 04:16 | <Requiem> | huh... |
| 04:16 | <Xcalo> | i can get 5 menu rows on the screen |
| 04:16 | <cybe> | I only heard about that specific case - the guy bought a computer with an OEM license. When he started the computer it tried to install Windows, and he just didn't agree to the agreement. As far as I remember it went to court and he won |
| 04:16 | <cybe> | And since one person have won in court, they wouldn't take it that fair again |
| 04:17 | <Xcalo> | the buttons and all are normal size, so its not a resolution problem |
| 04:17 | <Requiem> | hrm |
| 04:17 | <Xcalo> | its just the text |
| 04:17 | <witte> | Xcalo: go to console and move ~/.kde to ~/.kde_old |
| 04:17 | <witte> | Xcalo: afterwards, just log in again, and you will be able to configure kde anew |
| 04:17 | <bartm> | cybe: I can't go to court for the value of the refund |
| 04:19 | <dli> | any idea, why kde would display a big "Volume" window/icon on top, hiding the desktop and user windows, couldn't close or move it |
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| 04:19 | <cybe> | No, I understand. But if you send them an e-mail about the other case (I will try to find some information about it for you), then I'm pretty sure they give you the refund without too much trouble |
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| 04:20 | <Requiem> | european courts are not the american ones |
| 04:20 | <Requiem> | I'd have to go to trial and set a new precedent |
| 04:20 | <Requiem> | I could probably really tear up the clauses I find unnaceptable in the Vista liscences though |
| 04:20 | <cybe> | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6144782.stm |
| 04:20 | <bartm> | cybe: I live in .be and I expect the answer to be "contact your local hardware vendor" and the local hardware vendor won't be interested to help |
| 04:20 | <Requiem> | might be worth doing just for fun |
| 04:21 | <cybe> | Haha yeah Requiem :p if you have the money it would sure be funny ;) |
| 04:21 | <bartm> | cybe: thanks for the link, I intend to read it thoroughly and attempt a refund as long as it doesn't cost me money for lawyers :) |
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| 04:22 | <cybe> | No problem bartm :) I just regret I didn't know about the posibillity when I got an OEM version of Windows XP with my laptop |
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| 04:23 | <Xcalo> | witte: nope that didnt help, still too big text, in the login screen too |
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| 04:24 | <dli> | Xcalo, do you get correct video driver? for correct resolution? |
| 04:24 | <sheldonh> | i'm looking for rants or raves about a backup system called dar |
| 04:24 | <witte> | Xcalo: strange |
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| 04:24 | <witte> | Xcalo: do you use kdm, gdm, wdm or xdm?. |
| 04:24 | <Xcalo> | the W in welcome message in the login screen is 6cm wide (real measures) |
| 04:25 | <Xcalo> | witte: kdm |
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| 04:25 | <Xcalo> | i installed the system this morning |
| 04:25 | <dli> | Xcalo, what video card? |
| 04:25 | <Xcalo> | first the stable, then upgraded to testing (2.6.21-2) |
| 04:26 | <Xcalo> | dli: intel gma 950, i810 driver |
| 04:26 | <Xcalo> | using a laptop |
| 04:26 | <Xcalo> | hp compaq nx7300 that is |
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| 04:26 | <Xcalo> | the resolution is 1280x800 and that shows up ok |
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| 04:31 | <Moe_> | I have been asked by the boss to setup a server. He wants to go CentOS 4, I want to go debian. He likes CentOS cause its locked down out of the box after install and cause of the security funtions that are installed by default and its an enterprise linux. What arguments can I put forward to go with debian? |
| 04:31 | <witte> | Xcalo: and you do not have anything special (japaneese, chineese whatever) kind of fonts |
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| 04:31 | <Xcalo> | swedish |
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| 04:32 | <witte> | Xcalo: ok, that is not that special |
| 04:33 | <Requiem> | Moe_: You understand Debian better (I'm guessing here), Debian stable is also scary well tested, and gets regular security updates |
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| 04:34 | <Requiem> | The biggest one to me is going to be that with Debian, you know what to do though |
| 04:34 | <Moe_> | yeah i know how to use debian. I have setup internal web servers using. But this box will be a "public" webserver and mailserver for the domains that we host. These are currently hosted over seas. We want to get our own box going and transfer them back to australia. |
| 04:36 | <Moe_> | I have never really had to harden debian for this type of thing before |
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| 04:37 | <dli> | Moe_, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
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| 04:37 | <ifvoid> | Moe_: in the end, it shouldn't matter at all which distribution you use |
| 04:37 | <ifvoid> | as long as they have decent security support |
| 04:37 | <Moe_> | we will be installing cpanel on the machine and configureing the domains and email accounts from there so there is not much to set up on the box |
| 04:38 | <ifvoid> | so there really is no real advantage of the one over the other, apart from sysadmin preferences |
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| 04:39 | <ifvoid> | and apart from available support, of course |
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| 04:41 | <davi> | What key is the compiz Super key ? |
| 04:42 | <ifvoid> | the windows key, I think |
| 04:44 | <davi> | thanks |
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| 04:44 | <davi> | ifvoid, I suppose both the left and the right windows key must work |
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| 04:46 | <hotchip> | Hello. Does anyone know where Tor is available from? |
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| 04:47 | <hotchip> | I can't find it through apt-get ... |
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| 04:47 | <cybe> | tor.eff.org |
| 04:47 | <hotchip> | Thanks cybe. |
| 04:47 | <cybe> | np ^^ |
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| 04:48 | <cybe> | Debian has recognized my Wlan card as a normal cable network card? How can I fix that and be mobile again :s |
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| 05:29 | <aycko> | how can i point my mbr to start a concrete partition at bootup? |
| 05:30 | <aycko> | my grub is located at my /boot partition, but somehow i overwrote my mbr. |
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| 05:33 | <aycko> | i can just find tutorials where grub is installed on the mbr. |
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| 05:42 | <cybe> | My wireless connection is recognised as a wired connection by Debian, how do I fix that? It worked fine in Ubuntu |
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| 05:43 | <yujin> | these is sound like zizi just after login,but the player did not work well when i open a mp3.why.please |
| 05:43 | <twb> | Why is it a problem? |
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| 05:43 | <twb> | cybe: why is it a problem? |
| 05:44 | <twb> | yujin: what player? Have you installed mp3 support? |
| 05:44 | <cybe> | twb: because I can't search fore wireless networks with it... It thinks it needs to connect through a wire |
| 05:46 | <yujin> | totem |
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| 05:48 | <cybe> | Hmm, lspci show this: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02). But the network manager shows it as a wired connection, and won't let me search for access points |
| 05:48 | <yujin> | sometimes i can play mp3 without sound. when i made some congiureation with multimedial systems selector, it just flash and exit |
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| 05:49 | <twb> | yujin: I fail to see how you can play an mp3 "without sound" |
| 05:50 | <gsimmons> | !tell cybe -about ipw3945 |
| 05:50 | <yujin> | maybe the player works,but driver fails |
| 05:50 | <twb> | cybe: are you sure the "network manager" (whatever that is) isn't talking about a different NIC? |
| 05:50 | <twb> | yujin: I suspect you want to install the appropriate gstreamer package. |
| 05:52 | <cybe> | twb - I meant the default "Network Settings" and it shows eth1 and eth0. eth0 is my wired connection that I use for internet access right now, and i believe eth1 has to be my wireless connection since I have no other network interfaces ? |
| 05:52 | <cybe> | gsimmons: Thanks, I will try that |
| 05:52 | <twb> | cybe: it could be the ip-over-firewire device |
| 05:53 | <cybe> | That might be... I will try to install ipw3945 and see if that solves the problem |
| 05:53 | <yujin> | is alsa what you say? the first time i choose "alsa" as output in multimedia systems selector , the test will give out sound. but now it give a message that alsa is busu or not available |
| 05:54 | <yujin> | busu->busy |
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| 05:55 | <cybe> | "* Not starting ipw3945 regulatory daemon, driver not loaded." - will it start automatically after a system restart ? |
| 05:56 | <twb> | Unlikely. |
| 05:56 | <twb> | cybe: that sounds like the userland daemon; you need to modprobe the kernel module. |
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| 05:57 | <cybe> | Could you point me to an easy tutorial to do that ? and you were right btw, eth0 isn't my wireless card, but something else (wit a heally long mac address) |
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| 05:59 | <twb> | cybe: did you follow dpkg's advice? |
| 05:59 | <twb> | dpkg the IRC bot, I mean. |
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| 06:00 | <cybe> | Yes I did. I intalled everything it told me to |
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| 06:00 | <twb> | OK, then try issuing 'sudo modprobe ipw39<TAB>' and see if it auto-completes for you. |
| 06:01 | <twb> | I'm assuming you're running in bash and have sourced /etc/bash_completions and have sudo installed. |
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| 06:02 | <mythic> | hey all can anyone help me whit wifi ? |
| 06:02 | <mythic> | i got a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) but i cant seem to use it :s |
| 06:03 | <cybe> | twb - I am using a completely fresh install of Debian (etch) as a desktop install. I have sudo installed - but I can just switch to root with "su" right? It doesn't autocomplete ipw39 |
| 06:03 | <gsimmons> | !tell mythic -about ipw3945 |
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| 06:03 | <mythic> | hmm gsimmons and how would i do this ? add contrib and non-free entries ??? |
| 06:04 | <twb> | cybe: did you source /etc/bash_completion? |
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| 06:05 | <cybe> | twb - No sorry. I just did it and now I can autocomplete to the following 3 things: "ipw", "ipw2100" and "ipw2200" |
| 06:05 | <twb> | Did the package install actually work? |
| 06:06 | <gsimmons> | mythic: Ask dpkg (the bot) about 'contrib' and 'non-free'. You'd want to append both of these components to your existing /etc/apt/sources.list file, using a text editor. |
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| 06:06 | <gsimmons> | s/append/add/ |
| 06:06 | <mythic> | eh :s |
| 06:06 | <mythic> | im a real noob :s |
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| 06:07 | <cybe> | twb - I thought it did, everything looked fine... But I might have overlooked something 'cause if I try to install it again I get the following error: "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ipw3945-modules-2.6-686"" |
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| 06:08 | <gsimmons> | mythic: "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" (as root) from a terminal. Add the "contrib non-free" to the end of your existing lines (so that it then reads "... main contrib non-free"). Save and exit the file. Run "apt-get update", then proceed with dpkg's instructions. |
| 06:09 | <cybe> | twb - after apt-get update and aptitude update I could install it |
| 06:09 | <mythic> | ok gsimmons ty |
| 06:09 | <twb> | cybe: then perhaps the module (driver) is named strangely. |
| 06:09 | <twb> | cybe: ask google, I don't know. |
| 06:10 | <cybe> | twb - okay... Thank you anyway :) |
| 06:11 | <mythic> | gsimmons and what line should i add exactly ? btw my mirror is http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ |
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| 06:13 | <gsimmons> | mythic: You don't need to add any lines, just amend your existing ones. For each occurance of "main" - which would be at the end of most lines - amend it to read "main contrib non-free". |
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| 06:13 | <mythic> | ok gsimmons doing ty |
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| 06:14 | <mythic> | gsimmons and what about the ones that got main contrib ? |
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| 06:15 | <twb> | mythic: you want to end up with "[...] main contrib non-free". It doesn't matter whether it currently says "[...] main contrib" or "[...] main". |
| 06:15 | <mythic> | k twb thnx :p |
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| 06:16 | <mythic> | twb or gsimmons i done the contrib thing and i did aptitude update now what ? |
| 06:17 | <gsimmons> | mythic: Follow the previously issued instructions from dpkg, regarding ipw3945. |
| 06:17 | <twb> | !tknx |
| 06:17 | <twb> | !tnx |
| 06:17 | <dpkg> | Really, "Thank you" will do. It's not too much to ask, is it? |
| 06:17 | <mythic> | !tell mythic -about ipw3945 |
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| 06:17 | <mythic> | twb i was about saying thnx allot :p xd |
| 06:17 | <mythic> | and same for gsimmons |
| 06:18 | <mythic> | :p ty guys :p |
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| 06:18 | <twb> | gsimmons: I'm confused; isn't cybe the one who is trying to get an ipw3945 device working? |
| 06:19 | <twb> | Oh, I guess both are. |
| 06:19 | <gsimmons> | twb: mythic appears to be in the same situation. |
| 06:19 | <twb> | Yow! |
| 06:19 | <mythic> | twb i just installd debian ... :p thats why |
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| 06:20 | <mythic> | twb or gsimmons and what after i done the ipw3945 thing ? i got it all installd :p |
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| 06:26 | <gsimmons> | mythic: Load the kernel module ("modprobe ipw3945") and start the regulatory daemon ("invoke-rc.d ipw3945d"). Install the 'wireless-tools' package if you haven't already. |
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| 06:27 | <daffytheduck> | hi i can start X from the console but if I try to start it via the login screen it only puts the screen back in my face can anyone help |
| 06:27 | <gsimmons> | Sorry, the daemon start is actually "invoke-rc.d ipw3945d start". |
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| 06:33 | <markc> | can anyone point to an accurate uptodate howto for nvidia + 2.6.22 kernel from sid ? |
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| 06:34 | <witte> | !nvidia |
| 06:34 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
| 06:35 | <witte> | !nvidia one-liner |
| 06:35 | <dpkg> | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
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| 06:36 | <witte> | !nvidia_post_etch |
| 06:36 | <dpkg> | nvidia_post_etch is, like, update-pciids && apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && depmod -a && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:36 | <shadowcat> | sigh |
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| 06:36 | [~] | shadowcat has just about had enough of Ubuntu |
| 06:37 | <TrollStar> | is there a way to get OpenOffice on Etch to version 2.1.x since i was asked to test a bug situation with that version? |
| 06:37 | <cahoot> | isn't ubuntu OT? |
| 06:37 | <Guest328> | how to stop the xserver. i try /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 06:37 | <shadowcat> | cahoot: generally speaking yes |
| 06:38 | <Guest328> | but it does not work |
| 06:38 | <witte> | TrollStar: you can try to backport openoffice to etch |
| 06:38 | <Guest328> | topping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found). |
| 06:38 | <TrollStar> | witte: i am not firm with baking packages, or does one exist already? |
| 06:38 | <witte> | Guest328: try /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 06:38 | <witte> | !tell TrollStar about backports |
| 06:39 | <shadowcat> | cahoot: just saying, that after running ubuntu for about a week |
| 06:39 | <markc> | witte: many thanks |
| 06:39 | <shadowcat> | the debian unstable tree doesn't look that bad anymore |
| 06:39 | <TrollStar> | ah, thanks witte |
| 06:39 | <Guest328> | it does say. gdm stopped |
| 06:40 | <Guest328> | but with ctr+alt+f5 i can see the xserver |
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| 06:40 | <Guest328> | using knoppix 5.2 live disk |
| 06:42 | <TrollStar> | Guest328: then find the process ID with "ps" and kill it with "kill -9 <pid>" |
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| 06:43 | <andy> | hoi |
| 06:43 | <andy> | debian is best ^^ |
| 06:43 | <TrollStar> | ahoi |
| 06:43 | <TrollStar> | andy: it sure is :o) |
| 06:44 | <andy> | hatte jetzt mehrere getestet... so suse, kubunu, freespire.... aber die installroutine von debian ist ungeschlagen |
| 06:44 | <andy> | thumbs up |
| 06:44 | <TrollStar> | german language -> #debian.de |
| 06:45 | <andy> | ohh ok... thx |
| 06:45 | <TrollStar> | :o) |
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| 06:46 | <m03hr3> | msg nickserv m03hr3 |
| 06:46 | <ifvoid> | heh |
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| 06:48 | <cybe> | twb - It found my wireless card after a restart :) |
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| 06:50 | <cybe> | When I plug earphones into my laptop with a freshly installed Debian Etch the sound comes out of both the internal speakers and the headphones :s had the same problem in Ubuntu until Feisty |
| 06:50 | <cybe> | Or maybe Etchy, can't remember |
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| 06:50 | <twb> | cybe: that's probably a feature |
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| 06:53 | <cybe> | twb - what ? |
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| 06:54 | <cybe> | wtb - so you think I might be able to turn it on and off? |
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| 06:56 | <twb> | cybe: look in alsamixer |
| 06:57 | <cybe> | ok |
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| 06:58 | <_spOOn_> | W: GPG error: stable Release: Unknown error executing gpgv |
| 06:58 | <_spOOn_> | any ideas? |
| 06:58 | <_spOOn_> | is this mirror having issues atm? |
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| 07:00 | <cybe> | twb - doesn't seem like it... When I had the issue in Ubuntu someone said that it had something to do with jacksense? |
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| 07:03 | <twb> | _spOOn_: which mirror? |
| 07:05 | <_spOOn_> | twb, have tried apt-key update |
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| 07:11 | <twb> | _spOOn_: ftp.au is always fucked up |
| 07:11 | <_spOOn_> | twb, lol, i know |
| 07:11 | <Eulex> | crikey! |
| 07:11 | <twb> | _spOOn_: unless you "subscribe" (pay money), it randomly issues redirects that apt-get doesn't understand. |
| 07:13 | <twb> | _spOOn_: what are the full entries you're using for aarnet and s.d.o? |
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| 07:14 | [~] | _spOOn_ shakes head at stupid mistake he has just made..... |
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| 07:14 | <_spOOn_> | time to go back to being a n00b! |
| 07:15 | <twb> | So it's working? |
| 07:15 | <_spOOn_> | time/date was out of sync |
| 07:15 | <_spOOn_> | so keys obviously weren't working.... |
| 07:15 | <_spOOn_> | all fixed now |
| 07:15 | <_spOOn_> | sorry for wasting your time |
| 07:15 | <twb> | No problem. |
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| 07:16 | <fxiny> | crikey ? where's the croc ? |
| 07:16 | <fxiny> | i see , twb is back ... |
| 07:16 | <twb> | fxiny: hey, I ain't making cracks about your meatballs and spaghetti |
| 07:17 | <fxiny> | twb: hahaha you still rocking ; good ! |
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| 07:20 | [~] | fxiny sends two meatballs to the chapter 11 idiot and three spagh*a*tti to the ipod sha1sum astard |
| 07:21 | <twb> | Do you still have a government run by the TV station guy? |
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| 07:22 | <war> | How do I disable dmraid in knoppix 5.x? I cannot mount my hard drive because it says its busy. This is because DMRAID is in use, help? dmraid -an does not work |
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| 07:24 | <fxiny> | twb: nahhh : they are back in a full banana republic "regime" |
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| 07:24 | <blarson> | How do I enter accented characters to a random X app? (LANG=en_US.UTF8) |
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| 07:26 | <twb> | OX WANT INITIATE REGIME CHANGE! |
| 07:26 | <Guest332> | hi guys |
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| 07:28 | <yujin> | if esd is running,the totem don't work.what is the matter? |
| 07:29 | <fxiny> | twb: this is how i regard politics : one of these day i'll file a locales bug report cause i believe it should be ba as in banana |
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| 07:32 | <twb> | yujin: does it work for wav files? |
| 07:33 | <twb> | yujin: I suspect the problem is that you're trying to play evil codecs like mp3 |
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| 07:33 | <twb> | ...without first installing the associated codec support package. |
| 07:34 | <yujin> | i will test wav |
| 07:34 | <yujin> | thank you |
| 07:36 | <fxiny> | twb: i'm using wcd since yesterday : it rocks ! |
| 07:36 | <fxiny> | can't get cdargs running |
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| 07:42 | <Snapser> | http://fosswire.com/2007/09/08/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/ |
| 07:42 | <fxiny> | i know it |
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| 07:44 | <fxiny> | Snapser: reisub ;) |
| 07:44 | <amphi> | blarson: compose/multi_key and digraphs |
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| 07:44 | <Snapser> | I had never herd of the reisub technique |
| 07:44 | <amphi> | blarson: eg compose " a for ä |
| 07:45 | <Snapser> | *heard |
| 07:45 | <fxiny> | Snapser: play as a bofh with it :) |
| 07:45 | <Snapser> | ? |
| 07:45 | <fxiny> | yeahh bofh , ask mama google |
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| 07:52 | <Guest332> | when I execute mkinitrd after compiling my kernel I am having an error saying sd_mod is not found. This module is already compiled in /usr/src/linux (where I have the kernel sources= |
| 07:52 | <Guest332> | does anyone know why this modules is not getting copied in /lib/modules? |
| 07:52 | <vortex> | Guest332: mkinitrd is deprecated |
| 07:53 | <vortex> | use mkinitramfs |
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| 07:54 | <Guest332> | uhmmmmm, I will wait for my kenel to get compiled and I will try with mkinitramfs |
| 07:56 | <agus> | somebody know how can I open a file in text mode (on C++) and don't break down if the first line is empty??? |
| 07:56 | <agus> | plese... |
| 07:56 | <isuckatlinux> | can anyone suggest a desklet manager |
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| 07:59 | <wobh> | hello |
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| 08:01 | <yujin> | twd:there is no sound for wav too |
| 08:01 | <cahoot> | yujin, no errormsg? |
| 08:02 | <yujin> | no error msg |
| 08:02 | <cahoot> | using aplay or what? |
| 08:02 | <yujin> | with totem |
| 08:02 | <wobh> | /dev/dsp? |
| 08:03 | <cahoot> | yujin, best test alsa with aply, like aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav - in a terminal |
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| 08:04 | <yujin> | no sound too |
| 08:04 | <cahoot> | yujin, no errormsg? |
| 08:04 | <yujin> | no |
| 08:04 | <cahoot> | yujin, cat /proc/asound/crads - only one card listed? |
| 08:04 | <cahoot> | yujin, cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 08:05 | <yujin> | 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel |
| 08:05 | <yujin> | HDA Intel at 0xd2400000 irq 58 |
| 08:05 | <cahoot> | yujin, try invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 - then test aplay again |
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| 08:07 | <twb> | yujin: if you wish my attention you must spell my name correctly. |
| 08:08 | <twb> | isuckatlinux: what is a "desklet"? |
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| 08:09 | <isuckatlinux> | widgets |
| 08:10 | <isuckatlinux> | like gdesklets but that one doesnt work too good, some of them dont want to work |
| 08:10 | <twb> | I think that's your only choice, except for the KDE equivalent (karamba?) |
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| 08:11 | <yujin> | twb: ok. if i turn on the switch of "enable software sound mixing (ESD)" in sound preference,the totem wont work,it just flash and exit if i click a mp3 |
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| 08:11 | <twb> | yujin: does it play wavs correctly? |
| 08:11 | <isuckatlinux> | damn it |
| 08:11 | <v1nux> | hi what is the server name debian about french please tks |
| 08:12 | <twb> | yujin: do not try to make mp3s work until you can demonstrably use wavs |
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| 08:13 | <yujin> | twb: no sound too. same as mp3. i have played mp3 well just now. but if i tune the alsamixergui, the sound turn off. |
| 08:15 | <twb> | yujin: well, let us try using command-line tools which might actually emit useful debugging information. Please install the package "mpg321". |
| 08:15 | <yujin> | twb: i will try.thanks |
| 08:15 | <twb> | yujin: please also install alsa-utils |
| 08:15 | <twb> | When you have done this, report back to me. |
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| 08:17 | <wobh> | I have a question: I have a soundcard, but not a /dev/dsp. How did that happen? How can I fix it. |
| 08:17 | <wobh> | (I guess that's two questions.) |
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| 08:19 | <wobh> | funny thing is that is plays just fine? |
| 08:20 | <wobh> | (although the 'play' program doesn't work. |
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| 08:20 | <jaggy> | hi again :( |
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| 08:20 | <wurstbrot> | Hi, can i mount 2 partitions in 1 folder, so that i can use the space of 2 disks without a raid?! |
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| 08:21 | <mythic> | twb or gsimmons what do i need to do after ipw3954 ? |
| 08:21 | <gsimmons> | wobh: modprobe snd_pcm_oss |
| 08:22 | <gsimmons> | mythic: Load the kernel module ("modprobe ipw3945") and start the regulatory daemon ("invoke-rc.d ipw3945d start"). Install the 'wireless-tools' package if you haven't already. |
| 08:23 | <mythic> | k ty gsimmons |
| 08:23 | <twb> | mythic: fly to ethiopia and bury yourself |
| 08:23 | <mythic> | twb: k :p xd |
| 08:23 | <twb> | You can leave your head exposed if you want. |
| 08:23 | <yujin> | twb: now it works with noise whether in gui or command line. but when i close it and try to run it again,it fails |
| 08:23 | <wobh> | gsimmons: thanks! that's been bothering me for a while. |
| 08:24 | <mythic> | twb nah i like to be buried allive :p |
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| 08:25 | <twb> | I forgot to mention you have to bury yourself alive in ogden nash poetry, no dirt |
| 08:25 | <twb> | yujin: run the command "alsamixer" |
| 08:26 | <yujin> | cahoot: do you mean applications->debian->apps->system->Admin->alsa-conf ? |
| 08:26 | <twb> | yujin: make sure all channels are set to about 80% (just press 8) and not muted. |
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| 08:26 | <cahoot> | yujin, invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 should unmute and set levels |
| 08:27 | <twb> | Haha, I thought I'd accidentally compiled my WM without xinerama support, because the second screen was blank |
| 08:28 | <twb> | It took me a minute to realize I'd turned it off |
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| 08:31 | <yujin> | cahoot: what is the exact command ,please? |
| 08:31 | <cahoot> | yujin, invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 08:31 | <yujin> | cahoot: bash: invoke-rc.d: command not found |
| 08:32 | <cahoot> | yujin, you need to be root |
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| 08:34 | <yujin> | cahoot: still no sound. |
| 08:34 | <mythic> | gsimmons i done that but still nothing :s |
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| 08:35 | <isuckatlinux> | question, if i compile a new kernel and really mess up, the old kernel is still going to be there working as normal right? |
| 08:35 | <cahoot> | yujin, fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd* |
| 08:36 | <vortex> | isuckatlinux: yes |
| 08:37 | <gsimmons> | mythic: You should have a wireless network interface available to you ("iwconfig"). Does it appear? |
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| 08:37 | <isuckatlinux> | ok, sounds good, hopefully the new kernel help out with this vaio laptops |
| 08:37 | <yujin> | cahoot: still running without sound |
| 08:38 | <cahoot> | yujin, fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd* - anything returned? |
| 08:38 | <yujin> | cahoot: nothing |
| 08:38 | <mythic> | gsimmons: nope look at this :s http://pastebin.ca/698527 |
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| 08:42 | <gsimmons> | mythic: Looks like it's there (eth2). You'd want to use iwconfig to configure this interface as appropriate ("man iwconfig"). You can also define your wireless network configuration within /etc/network/interfaces, read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for an explanation. |
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| 08:43 | <mythic> | ty gsimmons |
| 08:45 | <yujin> | cahoot: i will try restart. |
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| 08:45 | <cahoot> | just reload alsa |
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| 08:50 | <cybe> | auto-completion in "apt-get install" doesn't work anymore |
| 08:50 | <cybe> | Why would that be, and how can i make it work again ? |
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| 08:51 | <twb> | cybe: you need to source /etc/bash_completion each time you log in. |
| 08:52 | <cybe> | Okay... It has just been made automatic in Ubuntu or what ? I'll just add it to my starting files |
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| 08:54 | <witte> | cybe: you can edit /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 08:54 | <witte> | cybe: last three lines |
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| 08:55 | <cybe> | Thanks witte :D |
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| 08:57 | <twb> | Personally I prefer to put it in ~/.bashrc |
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| 09:00 | <yujin> | cahoot: if i turn on "desktop->preferences->sound->enable sotfware sound mixing and play system sound", these is a login sound with noise when just login. but the totem won't work unless sotfware sound mixing is disabled. |
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| 09:02 | <twb> | yujin: did you fix channel volumes in alsamixer as I instructed? |
| 09:02 | <yujin> | twb:yes |
| 09:02 | <twb> | Does "mpg321 foo.mp3" work? |
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| 09:05 | <yujin> | twb: "Playing MPEG stream from mm.mp3 " but no sound |
| 09:05 | <yujin> | twb: press ctrl+c return with "[0:45] Decoding of mm.mp3 finished." |
| 09:06 | <twb> | Are you using external speakers? |
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| 09:07 | <yujin> | twb: yes. it burst sound when i login |
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| 09:08 | <twb> | As in, real sound and not static garbage? |
| 09:09 | <twb> | Perhaps then your user simply doesn't have access to the sound devices |
| 09:09 | <yujin> | twb: the login sound with a little noise |
| 09:09 | <twb> | Please tell me the output of the command "id" |
| 09:10 | <yujin> | twb: uid=1000(yujin) gid=1000(yujin) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),106(netdev),109(powerdev),1000(yujin) |
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| 09:10 | <twb> | OK, that is correct. |
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| 09:18 | <dendrite> | When building a deb, what's the Right Way to set ownership and permissions on files in the new package? Currently we're doing chown and chmod on the tree before we build the package... |
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| 09:18 | <twb> | dendrite: in the upstream makefile? |
| 09:18 | <twb> | Possibly a question for #debian-devel, btw |
| 09:18 | <dendrite> | Well, it's our own code. |
| 09:19 | <cybe> | Am I the only one who can't apt-get gaim/pidgin? I installed it a couple of hours ago, but it was automatically removed again (I believe it is because I either installed or removed something else), and now I can't reinstall it: gaim: Depends: pidgin but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages |
| 09:19 | <dendrite> | twb: So we are upstream. :-) |
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| 09:19 | <twb> | cybe: are you running Etch or later? |
| 09:19 | <dendrite> | twb: We have a makefile that gets the right code from CVS, arranges it under tmp, chown and chmod's it... |
| 09:19 | <cybe> | twb - I am running etch |
| 09:20 | <twb> | cybe: use aptitude, then. It should tell you WHY it's broken |
| 09:21 | <cybe> | okay |
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| 09:22 | <cybe> | twb: " libpurple0: Depends: pidgin-data (< 2.1.1-z) but 2.2.0-1 is to be installed. |
| 09:22 | <cybe> | pidgin: Depends: pidgin-data (< 2.1.1-z) but 2.2.0-1 is to be installed." |
| 09:23 | <twb> | pastebin the full output of "aptitude install pidgin" |
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| 09:24 | <twb> | It's been a while since I used Etch's aptitude. |
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| 09:25 | <cybe> | twb: http://paste.dunnewind.net/397 |
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| 09:26 | <twb> | Now try aptitude install pidgin pidgin-data+ libpurple0+ |
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| 09:28 | <cybe> | twb: http://paste.dunnewind.net/398 - seems like exactly the same |
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| 09:29 | <twb> | cybe: OK, not sure. |
| 09:30 | <twb> | cybe: navigate through the proposed solutions until you get to a point where it offers to only upgrade stuff, I guess. |
| 09:30 | <twb> | Or you could just do "aptitude dist-upgrade" and upgrade everything that's upgradable. |
| 09:30 | <cybe> | I only get 1 solution more |
| 09:30 | <cybe> | okay |
| 09:31 | <twb> | It could be that your mirror is incomplete and so it's gone a bit silly, in which case it'll probably come good again in a couple of dayss |
| 09:31 | <gsimmons> | cybe: Which repository for the pidgin packages are you using? pidgin isn't in Etch IIRC. There are backported packages for Etch, if you're not attempting to use these already. |
| 09:31 | <twb> | gsimmons: aha! Not in Etch! |
| 09:31 | <gsimmons> | !pidgin |
| 09:31 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, pidgin is formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch, add "deb http://ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports main" to your sources.list. |
| 09:32 | <cybe> | Hmmm, I don't know where I got it from then o.O |
| 09:32 | <twb> | cybe: pastebin your sources.list |
| 09:32 | <cybe> | okay |
| 09:33 | <cybe> | http://paste.dunnewind.net/399 |
| 09:33 | <cybe> | But I managed to install it once ? |
| 09:33 | <cybe> | for an hour or to ago |
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| 09:33 | <jaggy> | hiii |
| 09:33 | <twb> | cybe: you are not using Etch. |
| 09:34 | <jaggy> | how to activate nvidia geforce go 7600 in debian ? :s |
| 09:34 | <twb> | You are using Sid, which is for people who know how to fix or put up with these kinds of bugs |
| 09:34 | <witte> | !tell jaggy about nvidia |
| 09:34 | <twb> | jaggy: WDYM "activate"? |
| 09:34 | <cybe> | Ehhh |
| 09:34 | <jaggy> | twb u need to start ur drivers before it works ... :s |
| 09:34 | <witte> | !u |
| 09:34 | <dpkg> | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 09:34 | <twb> | jaggy: I disagree. |
| 09:35 | <twb> | VGA and VESA at the very least should work out of the box. |
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| 09:35 | <jaggy> | twb it wont work here ... i need to manuali activate ... btw ty witte |
| 09:35 | <cybe> | twb - I'm not sure I understand... It says Etch everywhere in the sources.list? And I took the iso file from debian.com that looked like tha right one? |
| 09:36 | <twb> | cybe: that last line says "sid" |
| 09:36 | <witte> | cybe: it says sid |
| 09:36 | <witte> | !sid |
| 09:36 | <dpkg> | the <unstable> or <thermite> version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. see <sid faq> |
| 09:36 | <cybe> | I added the last two myself ^^ |
| 09:36 | <twb> | cybe: well, you fucked up |
| 09:37 | <cybe> | So... You are saying that I have accidently upgraded my system to an unstable version? Doh! -.- |
| 09:37 | <gsimmons> | !tell jaggy -about nvidia |
| 09:37 | <jaggy> | i knew it already gsimmons but ty :p |
| 09:38 | <twb> | cybe: it sounds like you've upgraded bits of it |
| 09:38 | <gsimmons> | Ah, my bad. |
| 09:38 | <witte> | cybe: probably you need to do a dist-upgrade |
| 09:38 | <witte> | and live with sid for now |
| 09:39 | <witte> | !tell cybe about downgrade |
| 09:39 | <twb> | "mea culpa" |
| 09:39 | <cybe> | Okay... So downgrading isn't possible... Well, I just have to start over then :P |
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| 09:40 | <jaggy> | hmm i dont get anything about that nvidia talk :s |
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| 09:40 | <twb> | jaggy: what exactly ISN'T working? |
| 09:40 | <jaggy> | twb: enemy territory ( a game ) it works when u activate nvidia |
| 09:40 | <twb> | That's a feature. |
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| 09:41 | <twb> | Write to your manufacturer (NVidia) and ask them to release information about their hardware. |
| 09:41 | <jaggy> | twb hmm it must work as all other gamers use debian |
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| 09:42 | <twb> | If you and other consumers DON'T write to NVidia, their hardware will NEVER work out of the box. |
| 09:42 | <witte> | !tell jaggy about nvidia one-liner |
| 09:43 | <jaggy> | witte i believe thats it |
| 09:44 | <twb> | So instead of putting up with a large, one-off amount of inconvenience, you settle for an eternity of slightly less inconvenience. |
| 09:44 | <twb> | Shame on you. |
| 09:44 | <witte> | twb: :) |
| 09:44 | <jaggy> | hehe twb |
| 09:44 | <twb> | I mean it. |
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| 09:45 | <twb> | The reason GNU exists is because RMS said "No!" to these kind of comromises. |
| 09:45 | <twb> | *compromises |
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| 09:46 | <twb> | If RMS was like you, you'd be paying for Solaris on Windows today. |
| 09:46 | <witte> | I agree with twb that you should write nvidia, but you can still use their lousy drivers for now ;-) |
| 09:46 | <jaggy> | hmm well wath would i write :s |
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| 09:47 | [~] | fxiny sends twb the famous RMS alice_hmmmm.ogg |
| 09:47 | <witte> | jaggy: I looked for open source drivers for your hardware, but i can not find them |
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| 09:47 | <witte> | jaggy: could you please send me a link :-) |
| 09:47 | <twb> | fxiny: I don't know that one |
| 09:47 | <jaggy> | xd witte im googling myself xd |
| 09:47 | <twb> | fxiny: is it like _Guantanamero_ and _The Free Software Song_? |
| 09:48 | <witte> | jaggy: I meant that you should write something like that to nvidia |
| 09:48 | <jaggy> | oh witte ok :p xd |
| 09:48 | <fxiny> | twb: when he reminds himself of love and then dressed up as ST Ignucicus |
| 09:49 | <fxiny> | twb: i ain't got the guanta.ogg :( |
| 09:49 | <twb> | !google guantanamero |
| 09:49 | <twb> | Bah. |
| 09:49 | <jaggy> | xd |
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| 09:50 | <fxiny> | i knew he was a saint , you tell me he was driving a bike somewhere in south america too , smoking cigars ? |
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| 09:51 | <jaggy> | hmm |
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| 09:51 | <twb> | It's about the Texas despot |
| 09:51 | <jaggy> | witte the drivers ( when i install it ) they say im runing a x config |
| 09:51 | <jaggy> | waths a xconfig |
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| 09:56 | <fxiny> | twb: i read about solaris/windows , and about ipod/sha1sum . don't know ahy but i enjoy bad news like the other one : filed for chapter 11 , who ? some troubled edge fund ? nahhhh : sco :))) |
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| 09:57 | <gabrix> | woould u have just a try |
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| 09:57 | <witte> | jaggy: as far as I know, you have to install without a graphic environment running |
| 09:57 | <gabrix> | try to connect to this url please http://www.gabrix.ath.cx |
| 09:57 | <jaggy> | witte and how to close my envirimet ? |
| 09:58 | <witte> | jaggy: /etc/init.d/{k,g,w,x}dm stop |
| 09:58 | <gabrix> | any response? |
| 09:58 | <jaggy> | gabrix ye it exist but i cant connect |
| 09:58 | <jaggy> | o i can |
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| 09:58 | <jaggy> | thnx witte |
| 09:59 | |-| | mode/#debian [+l 320] by debhelper |
| 09:59 | <witte> | with {k,g,w,x} depending on your install |
| 09:59 | <gabrix> | so ? |
| 09:59 | <jaggy> | im in gabrix |
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| 09:59 | <gabrix> | ok |
| 09:59 | <fxiny> | gabrix: slow : certificate coming |
| 09:59 | <gabrix> | do u like it |
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| 10:00 | <gabrix> | i have to find a joomla module to translate from italian to english and only |
| 10:00 | <fxiny> | gabrix: is in a foreign language i cannnot understand (twb :))) ) |
| 10:00 | <gabrix> | i also have a irc server |
| 10:01 | <gabrix> | irc.gabrix.ath.cx |
| 10:01 | <gabrix> | it's italian |
| 10:01 | <fxiny> | really ? |
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| 10:01 | <gabrix> | irc.gabrix.ath.cx #gabrix |
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| 10:02 | <Xenguy> | cs |
| 10:02 | <fxiny> | gabrix: "cx" is italy ? i thoyht italy was "ba" |
| 10:02 | <Xenguy> | (typo) |
| 10:03 | <Xenguy> | CX Christmas Island |
| 10:03 | <gabrix> | hahhahh |
| 10:03 | <gabrix> | crusifix |
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| 10:03 | <fxiny> | gabrix: ok . i'll add to my bookmarks |
| 10:03 | <gabrix> | come on join my irc.gabrix.ath.cx #gabrix |
| 10:04 | <gabrix> | ii was saying i was looking for a joomla module to translate from it to english |
| 10:04 | <twb> | fxiny: italy is .it |
| 10:04 | <gabrix> | yes |
| 10:04 | <twb> | cx is Christmas Islands, a small area off the coast of Australia |
| 10:04 | <fxiny> | twb: really ? |
| 10:05 | <twb> | .ath.cx is a dyndns.org owned domain that lets pretty much anyone use subdomains for free |
| 10:05 | <gabrix> | do you know those free domains from dyndns.org ? |
| 10:05 | <gabrix> | .it is expensive |
| 10:05 | <twb> | Probably you can't get .ath.cx if you are Osama bin Laden |
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| 10:05 | <sysop> | I want to be able to spy on a user on a box. they use kde and terminal, what tools in debian can I use for that? I know about krfb(desktop sharing) |
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| 10:06 | <fxiny> | gabrix: if you don't change some politics lines to pure fun i'll delete it from my bookmarks |
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| 10:06 | <helmut> | Hi. I bet I'm not the only one running spamassassin on Etch, but has anyone seen this? And can I do anything about it? http://sial.org/pbot/27497 |
| 10:06 | <gabrix> | politic lines ? wht politic lines? |
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| 10:07 | <twb> | sysop: that's about it. |
| 10:07 | <jaggy> | where to download nvidia geforce go 7600 drivers ? |
| 10:07 | <sysop> | what about ttyspy? |
| 10:07 | <twb> | sysop: however, you will need to lock down KDE to prevent them simply blocking or killing the RDP server. |
| 10:08 | <twb> | I've never heard of it, but it sounds like it only applies to ttys |
| 10:08 | <sysop> | cool thanks twb |
| 10:09 | <sysop> | I am more concerned about someone spying on me. I once friendly coworker had my pw and I want to make sure they cant spy on me. I went looking through my process list but didnt find anything strange. |
| 10:09 | <sysop> | a once |
| 10:10 | <fxiny> | friendly cow worker ... |
| 10:10 | <twb> | If your machine has been compromised, you will not be able to find this out |
| 10:10 | <jaggy> | where to download nvidia geforce go 7600 drivers ? |
| 10:10 | <twb> | A competent cracker will simply instruct your utilities to lie to you. |
| 10:11 | <Xenguy> | sysop: when you say "password", do you mean root password? |
| 10:11 | <sysop> | I stupidly had both set to the same. I dont think he knew that they were but wanted to be sure. |
| 10:11 | <twb> | You must boot from a trusted device (e.g. a live CD), copy the data from the machine, check it for integrity. Then finally install a completely new OS and copy the data back onto it. |
| 10:12 | <fxiny> | or dump a full backup leaving the "competent" to compete with his crack addiction :) |
| 10:13 | <sysop> | I dont think he is that badass. but am migrating to a new machine soon anyway. |
| 10:13 | <Xenguy> | sysop: hrm, I would start by running 'chkrootkit' and 'rkhunter' just to see if anything suspicious turns up |
| 10:13 | <sysop> | ok thanks Xenguy will do that right now. |
| 10:14 | <Xenguy> | sysop: they are good basic scans, but not comprehensive of course |
| 10:15 | <Xenguy> | sysop: twb is right in the end: if someone else had root access, the only way to be really sure your system is clean is to re-install. |
| 10:16 | <fxiny> | you should find out how he got your root pass , otherwise reinstalling is useless : he will be back again |
| 10:16 | <sysop> | I will migrate by data over to a new machine then wipe this one and go from there. I knew you guys would be able to help. |
| 10:17 | <fxiny> | sysop: let a couple of ids running next . say samhain and tripwire |
| 10:17 | <sysop> | I gave him my user pass, which was the same as the root. he didnt know that. but there no guarantee he didnt try that. |
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| 10:18 | <twb> | You also want to read _Reflections on Trusting Trust_, which will make you very, very afraid of doing anything but creating your own computer from the wires up and write all your own code for it by hand. |
| 10:18 | <witte> | sysop: so you were two times an idiot |
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| 10:19 | <witte> | sysop: you gave your pass and you have your user pass the same as root |
| 10:19 | <Xenguy> | sysop: this time separate the user and root passwords :-) |
| 10:19 | <witte> | sysop: and if someone needs to login on your machine, make a new user |
| 10:19 | [~] | fxiny joins the witte fan club |
| 10:20 | <witte> | fxiny: :-) |
| 10:20 | <sysop> | I know. but its not like I gave it to an unknown person. and its not my network password. just the one to login to my box. it was a special situtation where I was at home and the vpn was down and I need him to email me something off my machine. |
| 10:20 | <fxiny> | witte: :) |
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| 10:20 | <dendrite> | sysop: Take it up w/ HR. |
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| 10:21 | <sysop> | if I find something I will. |
| 10:21 | <witte> | sysop: you could ask him in person |
| 10:21 | <jaggy> | witte he would denie anyway ... |
| 10:21 | <witte> | jaggy: depends on teh person... |
| 10:21 | <sysop> | yea right. witte, noone in thier right mind would answer yes to that. |
| 10:22 | <witte> | sysop: depends on what he did, if it was just for fun, maybe he will, if he is malicious not of course |
| 10:22 | <jaggy> | witte if u asked him he would get supicious ... |
| 10:23 | <Xenguy> | sysop: you can't be sure, just re-install as you said |
| 10:23 | <fxiny> | let him running wild : spy on him |
| 10:23 | <fxiny> | i'd love to do it |
| 10:24 | <twb> | Argh, fuck. |
| 10:24 | <twb> | I've just worked out the obvious cause of a bug I've been trying to fix for the last hour |
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| 10:25 | <jaggy> | twb gratz |
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| 10:26 | <blarson> | twb: It usually takes me longer than that to find the obvious... |
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| 10:27 | <korny> | hi |
| 10:27 | <jaggy> | hi |
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| 10:28 | <korny> | in grub's menu.lst, can i do something like: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.6 root=[UUID] ro |
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| 10:29 | <korny> | i mean call a parttion by it's uuid? |
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| 10:31 | <twb> | korny: yes. |
| 10:31 | <twb> | korny: IIRC, it's root=UUID=foo |
| 10:32 | <korny> | twb: thank you =) |
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| 10:33 | <korny> | and in the /etc/fstab can i call the swap by another name than /dev/sda1. Depending on my current kernel, swap could also be /dev/sdb1 |
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| 10:34 | <jaggy> | ey where to find a nvidia geforce go 7600 thing for debian testing ??? |
| 10:34 | <witte> | korny: maybe you could assign the drives better usnig udev? |
| 10:34 | <ronburg> | hello room. i am having an issue with dhclient on debian etch. |
| 10:35 | <Xenguy> | jaggy: I am contemplating re-installing to stable for nvidia reasons :-( |
| 10:35 | <jaggy> | Xenguy it is posible to use nvidia whit unstable but not whit testing :s |
| 10:35 | <Xenguy> | jaggy: but there are smarter people here than I :-) |
| 10:35 | [~] | ronburg has anyone experienced a problem where they have to manually run dhclient in order to get dhcp info? |
| 10:36 | <twb> | korny: I'm not sure about that one |
| 10:36 | <witte> | !tell Xenguy about nvidia_post_etch |
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| 10:36 | <jaggy> | !tell jaggy about ipw9356 |
| 10:36 | <jaggy> | tow |
| 10:36 | <jaggy> | wht nr is it ? :p |
| 10:37 | <Xenguy> | jaggy: well there's another option then; I used to run sid and it worked out alright, but these days I'm wanting the comfort-zone of stable more and more |
| 10:37 | <witte> | !tell jaggy about selftell |
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| 10:37 | <jaggy> | well what is the ipw nr then ?? |
| 10:37 | <Xenguy> | witte: thanks for that, but I don't think nvidia-glx is even in testing (least last time I looked) |
| 10:38 | <Xenguy> | witte: maybe I should look again, but it seemed to be a bit of a mess for nvidia the last time I checked in |
| 10:38 | <gsimmons> | jaggy: I think you're after "ipw3945". |
| 10:38 | <Xenguy> | in testing that is |
| 10:38 | <jaggy> | ty gsimmons |
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| 10:38 | <witte> | Xenguy: i just saw that there is a "nvidia_post_etch" thing in dpkg, don't know how currtent it is |
| 10:39 | <Xenguy> | witte: or maybe you meant use that in sid |
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| 10:39 | <ronburg> | if anyone knows how dhclient gets executed on boot up then please msg me |
| 10:39 | <Xenguy> | witte: OK, I'll take a closer look |
| 10:39 | <cahoot> | ronburg, look at /etc/network/interfaces or man interfaces |
| 10:40 | <ronburg> | ok cahoot, i'll check that again. only probelm is i'm at work right now and am using my fedora box |
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| 10:41 | <ronburg> | i was just wondering if anyone else has had a similar issue with etch. if i view the logs i see that at some point my nic gets an ip, but after i log in the ip is gone. |
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| 10:45 | <ronburg> | does anyone have any practise questions for the LPI? i have an LPI ebook that i can transfer. |
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| 11:00 | <fxiny> | i have a question about pppd logs : peer from calling number 00:09:B6:89:63:63 authorized . what mac address is that ? |
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| 11:06 | <yujin> | if enable software mixing, totem return with "can't create mcop directory",or run without sound. how to deal with this? |
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| 11:58 | <monra> | hello, does anybody knows any good assembler ? |
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| 11:58 | <softwork> | hi |
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| 11:59 | <softwork> | why i get this error? checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool |
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| 11:59 | <vortex> | softwork: apt-get install libxml-parser-perl |
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| 12:00 | <softwork> | thx : ) |
| 12:01 | <monra> | any ideas? |
| 12:01 | <vortex> | monra: apt-cache search assembler |
| 12:02 | <monra> | vortex, that;s many results. that's why i said "good" |
| 12:02 | <vortex> | oh, nasm is a common one |
| 12:02 | <monra> | ok, thanks |
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| 12:09 | [~] | yang is looking for a customer based GUI control panel, i tried GPLconfig and Vhcs, the first one fails to compile... |
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| 12:13 | <softwork> | ssl library for pidgin? |
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| 12:15 | <softwork> | libgnutls13? |
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| 12:25 | <korny> | hi |
| 12:25 | <korny> | is there a good tool out there to reduce the bitrate of my mp3s? |
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| 12:28 | <yang> | korny: lame (its how the program is called) |
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| 12:28 | <Stephim> | lame |
| 12:29 | <korny> | tooo easy =) |
| 12:29 | <korny> | thx |
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| 12:30 | <Stephim> | for example : lame -b 128 old_file.mp3 new_file.mp3 ( -b for the bitrate ) |
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| 12:31 | <LinuxAthos> | can anyone help me with a problem in the command 'apt' |
| 12:31 | <vortex> | !ask |
| 12:31 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 12:31 | <Stephim> | LinuxAthos .. let us know your problem |
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| 12:33 | <LinuxAthos> | ok wait a minute please, i'm using a debian based, but in another language, so i'm gonna translate before. and then send |
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| 12:33 | <vortex> | !debian-based |
| 12:33 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 12:33 | <korny> | when i do: "lame -b alt.mp3 neu.mp3" i get: "Could not find "neu.mp3"." btw: neu is german for new ^^ |
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| 12:34 | <Stephim> | korny .. use the full path for your mp3 file |
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| 12:35 | <korny> | Stephim: doesn't work either |
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| 12:36 | <LinuxAthos> | so |
| 12:36 | <LinuxAthos> | the problem is the following |
| 12:36 | <Stephim> | korny use: man lame |
| 12:37 | <korny> | Stephim: i think my command is right, but probably lame only accepts wave as infile? |
| 12:37 | <LinuxAthos> | when i type apt-get update for example...after those many lines, is showed: |
| 12:37 | <LinuxAthos> | Reading package list... Ready |
| 12:37 | <LinuxAthos> | W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com etch Release: Cannot execute '/usr/bin/gpgv' to verify asignture (is the gnupg installed?) |
| 12:37 | <LinuxAthos> | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: Cannot execute '/usr/bin/gpgv' to verify asignture (is the gnupg installed?) |
| 12:37 | <LinuxAthos> | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: NCannot execute '/usr/bin/gpgv' to verify asignture (is the gnupg installed?) |
| 12:37 | |-| | LinuxAthos kicked [#debian] debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 12:38 | <Stephim> | korny .. have a look here http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/lame/lame/USAGE |
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| 12:38 | <LinuxAthos> | i couldn't send detais about the problem |
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| 12:39 | <LinuxAthos> | You have been kicked from #debian by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
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| 12:40 | <LinuxAthos> | when i type apt-get update in the end is showed the following |
| 12:40 | <korny> | LinuxAthos: read the twice and read the topic again ;) |
| 12:40 | <LinuxAthos> | Reading package list... Ready |
| 12:41 | <korny> | the .. message ... |
| 12:41 | <LinuxAthos> | W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org etch Release: Cannot execute '/usr/bin/gpgv' to verify asignture (is the gnupg installed?) |
| 12:41 | <LinuxAthos> | W: You will have to execute apt-get update to fix thi problem |
| 12:41 | <LinuxAthos> | this GPG error... is showed 5 times, 5 lines.... |
| 12:42 | <Stephim> | is gnupg package installed ? LinuxAthos |
| 12:43 | <LinuxAthos> | when i type apt-get install gnupg |
| 12:43 | <LinuxAthos> | is showed that the gnupg is already the last version |
| 12:44 | <Stephim> | and when you type /us/bingpgv ? |
| 12:44 | <Stephim> | /usr/bin/gpgv |
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| 12:47 | <LinuxAthos> | is not there |
| 12:47 | <LinuxAthos> | the gpgv |
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| 12:48 | <LinuxAthos> | the gpgv isn't there <Stephim> |
| 12:49 | <korny> | okay i think lame is not the best way to reduce the bitrate of my mp3s, because i have to deconvert them to wave first and then convert them to mp3 ... |
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| 12:52 | <Stephim> | Korny .. maybe with BladeEnc |
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| 12:53 | <fxiny> | korny: that's the way . you can check rezound |
| 12:54 | <fxiny> | it converts in its own format ... |
| 12:55 | <korny> | okay thank you |
| 12:55 | <korny> | i have to leave now |
| 12:55 | <korny> | cYa |
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| 12:56 | <christian> | hey |
| 12:56 | <christian> | i want to install a printer. |
| 12:56 | <ErJeDi> | hi fxiny |
| 12:56 | <fxiny> | ErJeDi: hi |
| 12:56 | <christian> | kyocera fs 720 with usb. is there a howto anywhere? |
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| 12:57 | <Stephim> | LinuxAthos type the following command to find gpgv : find / -name "gpgv" -print |
| 12:58 | <Stephim> | christian .. with CUPS |
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| 12:59 | <Stephim> | apt-get install cupsys and then http://localhost:631 |
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| 13:00 | <LinuxAthos> | <Stephim> # find / -name "gpgv" -print |
| 13:00 | <LinuxAthos> | /usr/share/doc/gpgv |
| 13:00 | <LinuxAthos> | /usr/lib/apt/methods/gpgv |
| 13:01 | <stroyan> | Stephim: The locate and dlocate commands will be much faster than "find /". |
| 13:05 | <christian> | i have already cupsys |
| 13:07 | <christian> | k, thanks a lot...may be it works now... |
| 13:09 | <christian> | Drucker Kyocera_FS-720_USB_1 wurde erfolgreich hinzugefügt. |
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| 13:12 | <ino> | Hi |
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| 13:13 | <ales> | hi |
| 13:13 | <ino> | hallo |
| 13:14 | <ales> | i have problem with loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 what i have to install? |
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| 13:15 | <dli> | error message from what program? |
| 13:15 | <ales> | wolfenstein mp demo |
| 13:15 | <ales> | 3d grphics.... |
| 13:15 | <ales> | nvidia |
| 13:15 | <dli> | ales, not open source, then, report to nvidia |
| 13:16 | <ales> | but some time ago, i have problem with nvidia, i downloaded and got it |
| 13:16 | <ales> | official debian instalation |
| 13:17 | <ales> | another game - Enemy territory what is clon of Wolenstein runs perfectly |
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| 13:18 | <chealer> | dli: that's the game's problem, not the 3D drivers' |
| 13:19 | <ales> | oops |
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| 13:19 | <jchaoul> | I have installed nvidia-glx-new and after I rebooted the pc, I can't get into X, there is an error and it takes me to the console |
| 13:19 | <jchaoul> | I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then rebooted the system but still have the same error |
| 13:19 | <dli> | chealer, as far as that game is not open source |
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| 13:20 | <stroyan> | ales: If you are using a 64-bit distribution then libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is in the package ia32-libs |
| 13:20 | <christian> | hi |
| 13:20 | <christian> | i use cups for install a printer, but my model fs 720 isnot there...what can i do? |
| 13:21 | <jchaoul> | anyone? |
| 13:21 | <ales> | i hace not 64bit..... amd sempron 2600+, using everything x86 |
| 13:21 | <christian> | can i get a ppd ? |
| 13:21 | <ales> | jachaoul: i had same problem.... did you do everything like in web is written? debian instalation of nvidia? |
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| 13:22 | <ales> | christian : use google ppd +fs 720 |
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| 13:22 | <LinuxAthos> | ? |
| 13:23 | <chealer> | ales: which Debian suite do you use? |
| 13:23 | <LinuxAthos> | <Stephim>? |
| 13:23 | <ales> | newest, i think 4.01 |
| 13:23 | <chealer> | ales: 4.0r1? |
| 13:23 | <ales> | yes |
| 13:24 | <chealer> | jchaoul: what's nvidia-glx-new? |
| 13:24 | <stroyan> | christian: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kyocera-FS-720 looks very discouraging for you. |
| 13:24 | <chealer> | ales: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 |
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| 13:24 | <FraDe> | re all |
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| 13:26 | <jchaoul> | anyone/ |
| 13:26 | <chealer> | jchaoul: did you see my question? |
| 13:27 | <jchaoul> | no sir where? |
| 13:27 | <chealer> | jc |
| 13:27 | <jchaoul> | I used apt-get to remove the nvidia-glx-new |
| 13:27 | <jchaoul> | and Installed the nvidia-glx |
| 13:27 | <jchaoul> | it said that the kernel version different for the installed one |
| 13:27 | <chealer> | jchaoul: <chealer> jchaoul: what's nvidia-glx-new? |
| 13:27 | <jchaoul> | when I did: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg |
| 13:27 | <jchaoul> | I followed the instructions.. but still same. |
| 13:27 | <chealer> | jchaoul: where did you get nvidia-glx-new anyway? |
| 13:28 | <jchaoul> | from the synaptic |
| 13:28 | <jchaoul> | I clicked on it to install it, and it say that the nvidia-glx will be removed |
| 13:28 | <FraDe> | jchaoul wich kernel u have? |
| 13:28 | <chealer> | jchaoul: which Debian suite do you use? |
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| 13:29 | <jchaoul> | how is taht related chealer? |
| 13:29 | <stroyan> | jchaoul: What repository do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list ? Is it ubuntu? |
| 13:29 | <alessi> | jchaoul : http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaHowTo |
| 13:30 | <chealer> | jchaoul: I want to check that nvidia-glx-new is available in your Debian suite. otherwise something's wrong. |
| 13:31 | <christian> | stroyan: there is no driver. :( |
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| 13:32 | <miksuh> | chealer: nvidia drivers are in Debian non-free repository |
| 13:32 | <alessi> | chealer: thanks..... i instralled that and everything goes ok, but another problem... but this one is made of game....so thanls much |
| 13:32 | <miksuh> | you need to activate non-free |
| 13:32 | <miksuh> | then you can install nvidia drivers |
| 13:32 | <miksuh> | ah |
| 13:32 | <miksuh> | not chealer |
| 13:33 | <chealer> | miksuh: but there's no such thing as nvidia-glx-new even in non-free AFAIK |
| 13:33 | <miksuh> | jchaoul |
| 13:33 | <alessi> | another question: how can i limit up/down load speed in debian? not using accelarators.... |
| 13:33 | <jchaoul> | I need to what? |
| 13:33 | <miksuh> | chealer: yeah it's nvidia-glx :) |
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| 13:33 | <miksuh> | not nvidia-glx-new |
| 13:33 | <jchaoul> | I am using Ubuntu right now |
| 13:33 | <jchaoul> | what should I do? |
| 13:33 | <chealer> | jchaoul: this is a Debian support channel. ask #ubuntu |
| 13:36 | <miksuh> | jchaoul: install debian :) |
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| 13:37 | <jchaoul> | sudo nvidia-glx-config enable |
| 13:38 | <jchaoul> | this is what is missing? |
| 13:38 | <chealer> | jchaoul: /topic |
| 13:38 | <miksuh> | I don't know, i don't use ubuntu |
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| 13:55 | <kevinl> | yo. |
| 13:55 | <kevinl> | is it possible on etch, to take just the linux-image package from lenny and upgade the kernl/modules? |
| 13:55 | <kevinl> | or will that cause a glibc conflict in the modules? |
| 13:56 | <kevinl> | er.. somewhere |
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| 13:58 | <doubledown> | hi, all. I'm trying to install debian 4.0 via the net installer but my NIC isn't recognized. it's a 3com 3c905b-tx. it works with linux and I already had it running with debian. the thing is one pci slot got fried due to a power surge but the rest of the board works fine. Yesterday I installed suse 10.2 and there were not problems at all. so I think the net-installer can't handle the broken pci slot. is there a way to tell the installer direc |
| 13:58 | <blarson> | kevinl: It should work, as long as all the requirements are met. It won't install if they arn't. |
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| 13:59 | <kevinl> | blarson, hmm you are probably right. i guess ill just try in a vm or something first ;) |
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| 14:00 | <kevinl> | doubledown, not really sure.. does the installer as you to specifiy a driver from a list? |
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| 14:00 | <el_isma> | so... how mad is to run Sid? (in comparison with testing) |
| 14:01 | <kevinl> | i cant remember if the netinst lets you get to a busybox shell with alt+f2 but maybe could insmod the module manually if it exists on the netinst cd |
| 14:01 | <chealer> | doubledown: your message was cut at " installer direc" |
| 14:01 | <kevinl> | el_isma, i dont know really but i heard it was broken at the moment |
| 14:01 | <kevinl> | if that gives you any indication :) |
| 14:01 | <chealer> | el_isma: if you have to ask, it's mad |
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| 14:02 | <doubledown> | ah, ok. my question was if there is a way to tell the installer directly at the boot promt where to look for the NIC. |
| 14:02 | <el_isma> | I'm in ubuntu right now, and getting sick of it. The slow update cycle is not for me... |
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| 14:03 | <el_isma> | I was thinking of getting back to Testing |
| 14:03 | <kevinl> | el_isma, do you really think that testing is ahead of ubuntu ? |
| 14:03 | <kevinl> | i mean, i dont know |
| 14:03 | <kevinl> | but was sortof wondering myself. |
| 14:03 | [~] | Supaplex gives el_isma an arm shot of SID |
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| 14:04 | <el_isma> | kevinl: It is. It's only behind a month or two after a ubuntu release |
| 14:04 | <kevinl> | but then it gets ahead? |
| 14:04 | <el_isma> | yup |
| 14:05 | <el_isma> | the problem with ubuntu releases is that they generally don't get much updates |
| 14:05 | <el_isma> | for instance, edgy was very buggy |
| 14:05 | <kevinl> | i get updates every day pretty much |
| 14:05 | <el_isma> | it got a bit better after some updates, but they never updated the installer |
| 14:06 | <el_isma> | so every fresh install was broken till you updated |
| 14:06 | <kevinl> | oh.. cause they dont have a net installer |
| 14:06 | <kevinl> | ? |
| 14:06 | <el_isma> | yup |
| 14:06 | <el_isma> | and the "stable" releases aren't always stable |
| 14:06 | <kevinl> | hmm. the ubuntu live-cd installer thing is quite neat though |
| 14:06 | <kevinl> | you must admit :) |
| 14:07 | <el_isma> | except it doesn't usually work *grin* |
| 14:07 | <el_isma> | I've had many troubles using it |
| 14:07 | <kevinl> | ya that reminds me |
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| 14:07 | <kevinl> | does anyone have a lenny vmware machine that isnt 935 megs? |
| 14:07 | <el_isma> | generally it's much better to use the alternate install cd (which uses the normal debian installer) |
| 14:08 | <Supaplex> | I like neutring windows www.goodbye-windows.com |
| 14:08 | <fxiny> | exe galore |
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| 14:09 | <fxiny> | i read something about lenny and that exe |
| 14:12 | <fxiny> | it was like a horror movie : the idea to install *first* windows and then some exe installer crashed all my synapsis |
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| 14:14 | <el_isma> | fxiny: only thing left to try is to install windows from linux! |
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| 14:16 | <fxiny> | el_isma: i bet those hollipops tycoons will hire you for the partII screenplay :) |
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| 14:16 | <twb> | What do I have to do differently to put a bootable .iso onto a DVD instead of a CD? |
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| 14:16 | <twb> | Just putting a DVD in instead of CD doesn't seem to work. |
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| 14:17 | <twb> | And the .iso itself boots fine under qemu. |
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| 14:17 | <fxiny> | qemu rocks |
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| 14:17 | <fgh> | how come i get iceweasel when i want firefox? |
| 14:17 | <twb> | fgh: because of lawyers. |
| 14:17 | <vortex> | iceweasel is the renamed firefox |
| 14:17 | <fxiny> | i had a look at crml (?) live_nerd_cd |
| 14:18 | <fxiny> | on qemu |
| 14:18 | <Supaplex> | !tell fgh about why iceweasel |
| 14:18 | <fgh> | oki |
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| 14:19 | <fxiny> | twb: are you using k3b ? |
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| 14:40 | <yosef> | Hi |
| 14:41 | <yosef> | I have problem, I cut 2 files, Past them in another folder, But the files did not appear at both location, how can I find them? |
| 14:41 | <yosef> | any log file in the system I can know where they went? |
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| 14:44 | <fxiny> | yosef: cut and paste sounds strange to me : type history to see your commands |
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| 14:46 | <tcsetattr> | yosef, you're gonna have to be less vague. I can't even guess what you're talking about. |
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| 14:59 | <panagos> | why is html email said to be unsafe? |
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| 15:00 | <dli> | panagos, as far as your client doesn't open links in it by default |
| 15:02 | <stroyan> | panagos: Interpreting and displaying html is rather complicated. That can lead to defects that allow malformed documents to exploit defects and do really bad things. |
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| 15:03 | <panagos> | but if i use, say, kmail, which uses the khtml kpart? shouldn't i be okay? |
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| 15:04 | <tcsetattr> | plus most HTML viewers don't just view HTML (which is complicated enough already) but also support even more massively stupid things like Javascript |
| 15:04 | <Supaplex> | normally yes. it's a precaution |
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| 15:04 | [~] | Supaplex prefers plain ordinary text |
| 15:04 | <Supaplex> | imagine that. |
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| 15:06 | <tcsetattr> | labeling a document format "dangerous" is something wnidoze users do because they don't think the fault might be in their tools, and if they just disabled Javascript and other idiocies there wouldn't be so much danger. I just hate HTML because it's ugly. |
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| 15:08 | <theONE> | DCC SEND "KEYLOGGER" 0 0 0 |
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| 15:09 | <tcsetattr> | bad data is never actually dangerous. bad code is dangerous. and only if you run it. |
| 15:09 | <Supaplex> | !ops theONE exploit attempts |
| 15:09 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: supaplex complains about: theONE exploit attempts |
| 15:09 | |-| | mode/#debian [+o peterS] by ChanServ |
| 15:09 | |-| | theONE kicked [#debian] peterS [go away pls] |
| 15:09 | |-| | mode/#debian [+b *!*@dslb-084-056-014-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] by peterS |
| 15:09 | <peterS> | thanks Supaplex |
| 15:09 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o peterS] by peterS |
| 15:09 | <Supaplex> | np |
| 15:10 | <stoned> | attemps |
| 15:10 | <stoned> | hey peterS |
| 15:10 | <peterS> | nyle. |
| 15:10 | <stoned> | how are you |
| 15:10 | <dpkg> | stoned: you know how it is... |
| 15:10 | <stoned> | hah |
| 15:11 | [~] | Supaplex is reading for his 10+ disk server to run xen+vserver with lvm2+raid+other goodies :) |
| 15:11 | <peterS> | alex_, smeding: FYI you are sitting behind buggy NAT routers that want to "protect" you from the evils of IRC exploits. they just disconnected you. I think you can use SSL on this network, if you want, which has a side effect of hiding from your NAT router |
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| 15:11 | <Supaplex> | or port 7000 iirc |
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| 15:11 | <Supaplex> | or upgrade your router :) |
| 15:11 | <peterS> | does port 7000 work on irc.oftc.net? I know irc.freenode.net has an alternate port |
| 15:12 | <peterS> | 8001 on freenode, if I remember correctly |
| 15:12 | <smeding> | peterS: hmm? |
| 15:12 | <Supaplex> | too many networks to remember the differences. *shrug* |
| 15:12 | <JasonS> | www.oftc.net ;) |
| 15:12 | <smeding> | oh. SSL. sounds like a good idea. |
| 15:12 | <smeding> | too bad i'm lazy |
| 15:12 | <Supaplex> | i'd just say upgrade the bugg0ry router and have it done with |
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| 15:12 | <smeding> | my sister just bought it. |
| 15:12 | <smeding> | it's a WRT54G. |
| 15:12 | [~] | Supaplex pats the nice openwrt of his |
| 15:12 | <peterS> | well, I don't see much point in SSL for IRC normally - nothing I do on IRC is so private that anyone would care to traffic-sniff it - but it does have the side effect of not letting your router filter mess it up |
| 15:12 | <smeding> | yeah i should upgrade the firmware |
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| 15:13 | <Supaplex> | hummmm |
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| 15:14 | <dli> | peterS, what about tor proxying? |
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| 15:15 | <kraken> | quit |
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| 15:15 | <peterS> | dli: that might work. but you have to be careful, lest you appear on irc channels with a tor hostmask, which a lot of channels ban on sight, since it's so easy to ban-evade with troll behavior otherwise |
| 15:16 | <peterS> | dli: so your best bet, if you want to use both tor and irc, is to register your nick and get a custom nickmask, so you don't get caught in *.tor bans |
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| 15:16 | <dli> | peterS, just another way :) |
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| 15:17 | <Supaplex> | if rtorrent was only more like elinks (for ui) |
| 15:17 | <peterS> | freenode's port 8001 thing is the simplest way to avoid firewall/router troubles (some companies firewall the usual irc ports, it seems). but I don't know if oftc has the same option |
| 15:18 | <peterS> | Supaplex: hey, it's based on a library, write your own frontend (: |
| 15:18 | <Supaplex> | too lazy right now :) |
| 15:19 | <Supaplex> | well, other stuff to do to. |
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| 15:23 | <panagos> | is there a top-like program to monitor net activity of various processes? |
| 15:23 | <bzed> | 22:22:32 irc.tu-ilmenau.de 6668 IRCnet autoconnect |
| 15:23 | <bzed> | 22:22:32 irc.debian.org 6668 OFTC autoconnect |
| 15:23 | <bzed> | 22:22:32 irc.freenode.net 7000 freenode autoconnect |
| 15:24 | <bzed> | dli, peterS ^^ |
| 15:24 | <peterS> | bzed: 6668 is one of the standard irc ports |
| 15:24 | <peterS> | 6667 through 6670 or so |
| 15:24 | <bzed> | my ISP only blocks 6667 |
| 15:24 | <bzed> | so 6668 works fine for me |
| 15:25 | <peterS> | how silly of them. they don't realise that the others are just as widely supported? |
| 15:25 | <peterS> | or maybe they want to block zombie networks that are known to only try 6667 |
| 15:25 | <peterS> | without inconveniencing their actual customers |
| 15:26 | <bzed> | they just want to avoid that dumb people run ircd with default settings and the zombie owners |
| 15:26 | <peterS> | blocking incoming and blocking outgoing are two very different things |
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| 15:26 | <peterS> | (my ISP blocks outgoing port 25, but not incoming, which suits my purposes perfectly) |
| 15:27 | <chuy_max> | hi: when I connect a ticket printer in my PC, a file is always created called /dev/lp0, is it safe to assume it will always be created there? |
| 15:27 | <panagos> | is there a top-like program to monitor net activity of different processes? |
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| 15:27 | <peterS> | there is ntop, I haven't tried it |
| 15:27 | <tcsetattr> | iptraf |
| 15:27 | <peterS> | chuy_max: lp0 is created by loading the 'lp' kernel module, which provides parallel printer support |
| 15:28 | <peterS> | I don't know who loads the lp module for you and whether that is a reliable process, but you can always load it manually by adding it to /etc/modules, if it turns out to be a problem |
| 15:28 | <tcsetattr> | argh. |
| 15:28 | <peterS> | yes, tcsetattr, I am assuming that he is running udev and gets lp0 populated for him and furthermore that this part of the equation is reliable |
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| 15:29 | <tcsetattr> | is that how it's gonna be in the future? people are gonna say stuff like "lp0 is created by loading the 'lp' kernel module" and get away with it? |
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| 15:29 | <tcsetattr> | congratulations for guessing the meaning of "argh" though :) |
| 15:29 | <peterS> | was I supposed to say "lp0 is created by udev in response to a kernel hotplug event triggered by the load of the lp module"? |
| 15:29 | <tcsetattr> | well that does sound more accurate. |
| 15:30 | <chuy_max> | mmmm |
| 15:30 | <tcsetattr> | I didn't like the implication of direct causation. carry on |
| 15:30 | <peterS> | point taken |
| 15:31 | <tcsetattr> | I didn't know parallel ports could detect plugin events |
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| 15:32 | <peterS> | I know there is a pnp protocol where you can query a parallel port bus and determine what is on it |
| 15:32 | <peterS> | but I didn't know it was interrupt-based either, I figured you had to poll it |
| 15:32 | <peterS> | also, for the record, I still don't run udev on my main computer |
| 15:33 | <tcsetattr> | but the answer to the original question is yes, lp0 is the standard name for the printer plugged into the first parallel port. |
| 15:33 | <Supaplex> | peterS: my mac (with gutenprint) has detected most of the printers I've plugged into it lately. |
| 15:33 | <Supaplex> | tcsetattr: linux/Documentation/devices.txt ? |
| 15:33 | <peterS> | Supaplex: do macs have parallel ports? I thought printers had to be serial or SCSI or USB |
| 15:34 | <peterS> | (or ethernet) |
| 15:34 | <Supaplex> | peterS: I have a usb<->parallel cable |
| 15:34 | <tcsetattr> | yes, devices.txt agrees... was that a question? |
| 15:34 | <Supaplex> | tcsetattr: no, just a suggestion. glad you found it already =) |
| 15:34 | <peterS> | Supaplex: well, that's different, USB definitely detects plug/unplug events. and the USB device that provides a parallel port quite possibly does some detection too |
| 15:34 | <tcsetattr> | devfs probably disagrees, but nobody cares about devfs anymore |
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| 15:35 | <peterS> | no, nobody cares about devfs anymore. it was finally removed from the kernel. |
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| 15:36 | <peterS> | in fact, hmmm, it was removed in 2.6.18. (I could have sworn it happened slightly later.) |
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| 15:39 | <chealer> | peterS: 2.6.13 IIRC |
| 15:39 | <peterS> | chealer: no, I think that's just where the kernel config option was removed |
| 15:39 | <peterS> | so if you still wanted devfs you had to hack the config manually |
| 15:39 | <marin_> | how can i do a right-clic with my monobutton mouse please ? |
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| 15:40 | <peterS> | don't know but maybe you can ask amazon.com, they patented one-click checkout a few years back (: |
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| 15:42 | <Supaplex> | inspire us to care about mono ;) |
| 15:42 | <iantlopp> | Debian takes a very long time to boot up, and I'm noticing what seem to be a LOT of errors as it boots. Does anyone know of a good boot debugger/logger that I can use, as well as tutorials for cleaning up the boot processes? I've been looking through google for the past 6 hours now with little to no success at finding anything that quite matches Debian Stable |
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| 15:42 | <bzed> | iantlopp: what about posting the errors? |
| 15:42 | <iantlopp> | how do I log the errors to post them? |
| 15:42 | <Supaplex> | syslog |
| 15:42 | <bzed> | marin_: get a non-apple mouse? |
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| 15:43 | <tcsetattr> | marin_: apt-get install mouseemu, or use the X server's mousekeys |
| 15:43 | <chealer> | iantlopp: for the late part of the boot, bootlogd |
| 15:43 | <sheldonh> | Supaplex: how does he syslog the initrd's output? |
| 15:43 | <Supaplex> | !bootlog |
| 15:43 | <dpkg> | /etc/default/bootlogd now defaults to "no". Edit that to get your /var/log/boot file back. For more info, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028, or not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
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| 15:43 | <Supaplex> | syslog doesn't log initrd. use a serial console if bootlogd cannot pick it up, or contribute a fix if you don't like that either |
| 15:44 | <calmar> | hi all, any recommandation about using a video-codec? xvid or another? (generally) |
| 15:44 | <chealer> | Supaplex: lots of stuff not in bootlogd is in dmesg |
| 15:44 | <Supaplex> | if you notice ethernet taking it's time, you might see multiple dhcp attempts, and yes, dmesg goes into syslog eventually. |
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| 15:45 | <chealer> | calmar: you mean you want to compress video? |
| 15:45 | <calmar> | chealer: yeah |
| 15:45 | <calmar> | i always used xvid hm so |
| 15:45 | <iantlopp> | when trying to run bootlogd I get "cannot find console device 136:1 in /dev" |
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| 15:46 | <tcsetattr> | char device 136,1 is /dev/pts/1 |
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| 15:47 | <iantlopp> | supaplex: unfortunately, part of the problem is Debian's near refusal to work with a broadcom wireless device (at least the stable version... there's no fwcutter at all to get the firmware, so I had to switch to test just to get it then switch back, now I get a lot of errors, but through work I can get online) |
| 15:47 | <peterS> | so bootlogd runs before /dev/pts is mounted? |
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| 15:47 | <iantlopp> | don't know, I just tried to run it right now... was hoping that it was something I could activate to run at boot time without having to edit a file I'm unfamiliar with. |
| 15:48 | <tcsetattr> | so you tried to run bootlogd _after_ the system is booted? that's pointless |
| 15:49 | <iantlopp> | tcsetattr: I'm understanding that now... I was thinking I could start the program to set a boot option on it... i.e. like a defrag program that you can run now or set to run at startup... |
| 15:49 | <Supaplex> | fyi, my full attention isn't to #debian right now. (server rebuild) |
| 15:49 | <tcsetattr> | how silly. edit the /etc/default file like you were told. |
| 15:50 | <iantlopp> | I didn't see any mention of editing /etc/default |
| 15:50 | <tcsetattr> | <dpkg> /etc/default/bootlogd now defaults to "no". Edit that to get your /var/log/boot file back. For more info, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028, or not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
| 15:51 | <tcsetattr> | I never knew that bootlogd had been enabled by default. Did I have a /var/log/boot and not notice it? |
| 15:51 | <iantlopp> | sorry for being a noob... don't know exactly what that means... I'm trying to google a lot of this while doing it so I can understand it better., |
| 15:51 | <tcsetattr> | it means you edit /etc/default/bootlogd and change the "No" to "Yes" |
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| 15:51 | <iantlopp> | thanks |
| 15:52 | <Supaplex> | !tell iantlopp -about grounding |
| 15:52 | <iantlopp> | bbiab... gonna restart now. |
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| 15:54 | <chealer> | tcsetattr: not unless you installed before 2004 |
| 15:54 | <tcsetattr> | well I did have debian machines running since 2001. never knew it was logging boot messages |
| 15:55 | <chealer> | I modified the factoid lately but didn't rewrite it from scratch... |
| 15:56 | <tcsetattr> | here's what really happened: bootlogd assumes that its stdin is connected to the initial console device. it found 136,1 on stdin and couldn't find the corresponding device file (it doesn't look in /dev/pts because devpts isn't supposed to be mounted yet.) |
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| 15:57 | <chealer> | dpkg: no, bootlogd is disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to get your /var/log/boot file. For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028. Not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
| 15:57 | <dpkg> | okay, chealer |
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| 15:59 | <tcsetattr> | for some reason I have a /var/log/boot containing the line "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" - seems like whoever wrote that message could have included a pointer to /etc/default |
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| 16:00 | <sheldonh> | tcsetattr: did you and i engage once in a conversation about linux's maximum loss free forwarding rate? |
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| 16:01 | <iantlopp> | okay... where to post the bootlog now? |
| 16:01 | <tcsetattr> | not unless you compressed it so much that I don't understand the topic. |
| 16:01 | <tcsetattr> | "maximum loss free forwarding rate"? uh, what? |
| 16:01 | <sheldonh> | tcsetattr: maybe it was jm_. have done some benchmarking recently that overturns what i told him/you/whoever |
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| 16:03 | <Ismael> | http://666kb.com/i/artxgl32e835s2bui.jpg <- MS recommends FF! |
| 16:03 | <Supaplex> | and photoshop is free. as if. |
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| 16:04 | <chealer> | !tell iantlopp about paster |
| 16:04 | <Ismael> | photoshop? shame on you Supaplex, GIMP or Krita |
| 16:04 | <Supaplex> | I meant FOSS |
| 16:05 | <Supaplex> | anyway, maybe they realiase you're not on windows. |
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| 16:05 | <Ismael> | and they actually give helpful advice? |
| 16:06 | <Ismael> | they must be on to something... |
| 16:06 | <sheldonh> | Ismael: advertising revenues |
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| 16:08 | <iantlopp> | okay.. http://paste.debian.net/37205 is my bootlog... I'm noticing a problem with fnfx as well... (well I noticed that before, but still).. basically if I run it in terminal, it asks me to run modprobe toshiba_acpi, which I do, then it works, however the files and folders that modprobe creates disappear upon next reboot.. any way to stop that from happening? |
| 16:08 | <iantlopp> | and is there ANY reason to have a bittorrent tracker on bootup? |
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| 16:09 | <tcsetattr> | if you put a module's name in /etc/modules it'll be modprobed for you on boot. |
| 16:10 | <iantlopp> | thanks :) |
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| 16:10 | <NeXX> | hi guys |
| 16:10 | <iantlopp> | but does it need to be modprobed every boot, or can it be set permanently so it doesn't need to be modprobed? |
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| 16:10 | <tcsetattr> | no, that is how it's done |
| 16:10 | <Supaplex> | !modconf |
| 16:10 | <dpkg> | modconf is a tool to configure/add/delete kernel modules, and at the same time it will update /etc/modules, or fix drivers/net no-view bug with http://bugs.debian.org/358855 |
| 16:10 | <iantlopp> | okay. |
| 16:11 | <tcsetattr> | your log shows 11 seconds spent "Configuring network interfaces" and 31 seconds "Starting MTA: exim4" |
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| 16:11 | <iantlopp> | network interfaces... that would probably be because of my broadcom wifi card... |
| 16:12 | <iantlopp> | I can barely get it to work while in Debian after boot, with a combination of iwconfig and using the Networking Administration tool. |
| 16:12 | <Ismael> | why, oh, why, does Debian insist on having an MTA? Most users I know have no use for it |
| 16:12 | <paistis_> | hyvää yötä <3 |
| 16:12 | <NeXX> | http://paste.debian.net/37206 |
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| 16:12 | <NeXX> | can someone help me with that? |
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| 16:13 | <iantlopp> | okay, now fnfx should work fine... |
| 16:13 | <chealer> | NeXX: can you give an idea what it is about? |
| 16:14 | <NeXX> | im trying to access my harddrive right |
| 16:14 | <iantlopp> | I'll get to toshset later... any clue on fixing the broadcom issue? |
| 16:14 | <NeXX> | its an NTFS drive |
| 16:14 | <fancylad> | why does dhclient acquire an address on booot then release it? this is what i am seeing in /var/log/syslog. my /etc/network/interfaces file is configured correctly. |
| 16:14 | <tcsetattr> | because mail is an integral part of the system. if you can't at least get a message to a local user using /usr/sbin/sendmail you're broken. |
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| 16:14 | <iantlopp> | hrmm.. .gotta go for now... bbl. |
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| 16:15 | <chealer> | fancylad: is network-manager installed? |
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| 16:15 | <NeXX> | do i have to install some sort of ntfs support in the kernel? |
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| 16:16 | <NeXX> | or would i not even get that error if i didn't have support for it |
| 16:16 | <tcsetattr> | pmount sure seems to print a lot of error messages that don't have anything to do with mounting :) |
| 16:16 | <fancylad> | is network-manager a gui tool? |
| 16:17 | <fancylad> | i'm using xfce btw |
| 16:17 | <chealer> | fancylad: it has GUI frontends |
| 16:17 | <fancylad> | i'll check if it is installed |
| 16:17 | <Ismael> | chealer: does network manager have cli interfaces? |
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| 16:18 | <NeXX> | tcsetattr: do you think if i tried to mount it with just mount i may not get that error? |
| 16:18 | <chealer> | Ismael: I don't know. |
| 16:18 | <NeXX> | or is that something different all together |
| 16:18 | <fancylad> | network-manager is not installed. do i need it for some reason? |
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| 16:20 | <chealer> | fancylad: no, I thought it could have caused your problem. |
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| 16:20 | <NeXX> | meh i tried it and it seemed to work |
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| 16:20 | <chealer> | fancylad: please provide the log |
| 16:20 | <fancylad> | chealer: should i send it to u? |
| 16:22 | <bzed> | NeXX: you wanna use ntfs-3g |
| 16:22 | <NeXX> | bzed: what is that? |
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| 16:22 | <bzed> | it;s available on backports.org if you're using etch |
| 16:22 | <NeXX> | !ntfs-3g |
| 16:22 | <dpkg> | it has been said that ntfs-3g is a new driver for NTFS with write support, see http://packages.debian.org/ntfs-3g for release status. Read the FAQ at http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html, also ask me about <ntfs>, <backports> (in sarge-backports) |
| 16:23 | <chealer> | fancylad: no |
| 16:23 | <chealer> | !tell fancylad about paster |
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| 16:23 | <NeXX> | well i got it mounted to /mnt/stuff with just a "mount -v -t ntfs /dev/hdf1 /mnt/stuff" but i cant access it in X so i'll just command line it and copy files and format it with ext3 |
| 16:23 | <NeXX> | less hassles i figure |
| 16:23 | [~] | sheldonh loves network-manager on his laptop |
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| 16:25 | <Ismael> | NM is nice. I just hate that I don't know of any CLI interfaces to it |
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| 16:26 | <fancylad> | :chealer: so i just upload my log file to that site? |
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| 16:27 | <sheldonh> | Ismael: that would be nice |
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| 16:31 | <fancylad> | ok. i'm going to upload my log file too http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 16:35 | <chealer> | fancylad: yes, and then you tell us your paste's URL |
| 16:37 | [~] | piper is putting more beer in fridge: Gone away for now. |
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| 16:38 | <peterS> | piper: please disable the irc feature that posts your away message to the channel |
| 16:38 | <peterS> | this is on the principle of "if all 300 of us did that..." |
| 16:38 | <fancylad> | my paste: http://paste.debian.net/37211 |
| 16:39 | <piper> | peterS: i will just leave debian, i am on 72 different channels thanks |
| 16:39 | <peterS> | 72 channels? whoa |
| 16:39 | <piper> | not one complains, but then again #debian does not have a good rep |
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| 16:40 | <piper> | freenode included |
| 16:40 | <peterS> | piper: it's pretty simple: if one person does something like that, you hardly notice. but if the channel has 300 people in it and we all do it, the channel would be flooded with meaningless crap. therefore we ask everyone not to do it |
| 16:40 | <chealer> | fancylad: provide /var/log/boot too |
| 16:40 | <piper> | peterS: we have a big channel also (sidux) |
| 16:41 | <sheldonh> | piper: weren't you leaving? :) |
| 16:41 | <peterS> | as may be. freenode #debian is over 800 people, the problem gets even worse then |
| 16:41 | <piper> | i am not here to argue, and yes, i am leaving |
| 16:41 | <fancylad> | chealer: ok |
| 16:41 | <sheldonh> | fancylad: did you notice this? receive_packet failed on eth0: Network is down |
| 16:41 | <piper> | peterS: have a nice day and don't forget to smile :) |
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| 16:42 | <chealer> | piper: "/quit" |
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| 16:42 | <sheldonh> | fancylad: i haven't had great results with dhcp clients when my ethernet link bounces up and down |
| 16:42 | <peterS> | chealer: no no, he's on lots of other channels, you mean "/part" |
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| 16:43 | <chealer> | peterS: yeah... |
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| 16:43 | <chealer> | piper: "/leave" |
| 16:43 | <peterS> | chealer: but don't chase him out. he said he'd leave, if he changes his mind, that's fine. we got our point across already. |
| 16:43 | <fancylad> | is the output of dmesg ok? my boot file is empty. |
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| 16:44 | <chealer> | peterS: I'm not chasing him out, just *trying* to help to leave. |
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| 16:44 | <piper> | chealer: i am not noob, and have done this for a long time |
| 16:44 | <peterS> | chealer: anyone who's on 72 channels probably knows the basics of joining and leaving them. or, well, errr, at least joining them. maybe being on 72 means you never figured out how to leave (: |
| 16:44 | <sheldonh> | peterS: the "#debian does not have a good rep" wasn't lost on us, clever though he may have thought he was being |
| 16:45 | <peterS> | sheldonh: it's hardly worth the energy to argue over, though |
| 16:45 | <piper> | http://sidux.com/Article2.html |
| 16:45 | <sheldonh> | peterS: indeed. i'm a fan of the channels that autoban autoaways :) |
| 16:45 | <chealer> | peterS: jejeje |
| 16:46 | <chealer> | piper: OK, "/part" as peterS wrote |
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| 16:46 | <schmoko> | does anyone know the status of nvidia-kernel-common? i just did a dist-upgrade and it appears to have no installation candidate |
| 16:47 | <peterS> | it's in contrib, in case you don't have contrib in your sources.list or something |
| 16:47 | <sheldonh> | soon none of this will matter. i hear amd have open-sourced the ati chip apis :) |
| 16:47 | <fancylad> | chealer: i'll upload dmesg |
| 16:48 | <peterS> | sheldonh: errrr, some of them. the 2D mode setting stuff that threatened to make modern ATI chips completely unusable on Linux |
| 16:48 | <peterS> | sheldonh: not the whole 3D engine, like a lot of people probably imagined |
| 16:48 | <schmoko> | soon == several years |
| 16:48 | <chealer> | piper: if you have nothing related to Debian support to write, please leave or stay quiet |
| 16:48 | <sheldonh> | peterS: oh. how disappointing. that's so not what i heard :( |
| 16:48 | <piper> | chealer: i havent saidd a word |
| 16:48 | <peterS> | sheldonh: it was a great symbolic gesture, and it was necessary if we are to use new ATI chips at all, but the gesture wasn't what some people assumed it was |
| 16:48 | <chealer> | piper: <piper> http://sidux.com/Article2.html |
| 16:49 | <piper> | since then |
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| 16:49 | [~] | sheldonh remembers that one for the next time he's under oath |
| 16:49 | <chealer> | piper: that was not even 5 minutes ago |
| 16:50 | <piper> | 3 min |
| 16:50 | <peterS> | can you two stop arguing already? |
| 16:50 | <sheldonh> | jesus |
| 16:50 | <piper> | chealer: why do you want to agrue |
| 16:50 | <peterS> | sheesh, you're eating up way more visual bandwidth than you're arguing _about_ |
| 16:50 | <chealer> | piper: right, 3 minutes is less than 5 minutes |
| 16:50 | <peterS> | stop it. both of you. now. |
| 16:50 | <piper> | easy /ignore chealer |
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| 16:52 | <fancylad> | paste for dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/37216 |
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| 16:53 | <sheldonh> | fancylad: this doesn't look too hot: cs: warning: no high memory space available! |
| 16:53 | <chealer> | fancylad: oh, sorry, I missed your question. please highlight me if you expect a reply from me. |
| 16:54 | <chealer> | !tell fancylad about bootlogd |
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| 16:54 | <sheldonh> | fancylad: try this: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/doc/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html#toc2.5 |
| 16:56 | <fancylad> | ok |
| 16:57 | <sheldonh> | fancylad: i'd also be interested to hear whether the problem goes away if you eject and reinsert the card after booting through to multiuser mode |
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| 16:57 | <dbldtx> | fancylad; cabin boy? |
| 16:58 | <fancylad> | cabin boy indeed! |
| 16:58 | <fancylad> | i don't think this is a module issue as my nic works fine |
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| 17:00 | <fancylad> | i always boot into multiuser mode |
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| 17:01 | <fancylad> | the problem is resolved if i type 'dhclient eth0' at the cli as root |
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| 17:05 | <fancylad> | i actually may have found something in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts |
| 17:06 | <fancylad> | there's a line that says "DHCP="n"". i'm going to try changing that and reboot. thanks sheldonh |
| 17:08 | <sheldonh> | fancylad: note also the distribution-specific commentary about debian |
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| 17:11 | <gcosmin> | hi |
| 17:11 | <fancyladd> | i rebooted and i |
| 17:12 | <gcosmin> | can some one help me with my wireless ... |
| 17:12 | <fancyladd> | 've still got the same problem: no ip address |
| 17:12 | <sheldonh> | fancyladd: note also the distribution-specific commentary about debian |
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| 17:12 | <fancyladd> | in the file? |
| 17:13 | <sheldonh> | fancyladd: in the howto i mentioned. also, see /usr/share/doc/pcmcia-cs/README.Debian |
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| 17:13 | <sheldonh> | fancyladd: other than that, i have no idea :) |
| 17:14 | <fancyladd> | sheldonh: thanks. i have no idea either. i'll look around some more |
| 17:14 | <sheldonh> | bed time for me, i'm not watching this backup complete :) |
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| 17:15 | <fancyladd> | where are u sheldonh? |
| 17:15 | <fancyladd> | whereis MA? |
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| 17:16 | <peterS> | MA is Morocco, not that sheldonh is there |
| 17:16 | <chealer> | gcosmin: depends on your problem |
| 17:17 | <chealer> | fancyladd: what do you mean by MA? |
| 17:17 | <fancyladd> | peterS; thanks |
| 17:18 | <peterS> | also, in the context of the United States, MA is Massachusetts |
| 17:18 | <gcosmin> | chealer, don't know how to make my wireless to work |
| 17:20 | <tcsetattr> | *** on irc via server xenon.oftc.net (Waltham, MA, USA) |
| 17:20 | <tcsetattr> | that's not where he is, just the irc server |
| 17:20 | <tcsetattr> | if that's where you got it from |
| 17:20 | <fancyladd> | yeah i got it from whois |
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| 17:22 | <chealer> | gcosmin: someone can probably help, depending on your chipset and the connection you want |
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| 17:27 | <fancyladd> | is the guy who knew about cabin boy still here? |
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| 17:29 | <peterS> | you mean dbldtx? |
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| 17:36 | <fancyladd> | yeah dbldtx |
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| 17:46 | <fancyladd> | has anyone taken the lpi 102 exam? |
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| 17:47 | [~] | piper is back. |
| 17:48 | <lupine_85> | oh noes! |
| 17:49 | <iantlopp> | and I'm back too.. anyone knowledgeable about broadcom wireless cards? |
| 17:49 | <lupine_85> | vaguely |
| 17:49 | <iantlopp> | I'm having some major problems with it in bootup, and afterwards as well. |
| 17:49 | <lupine_85> | have you put the firmware in /lib/firmware, and are using the bcm43xx kernel module |
| 17:49 | <lupine_85> | ? |
| 17:49 | <iantlopp> | it works well, once I get everything set, but I can't even fully configure it using iwconfig |
| 17:49 | <iantlopp> | yes, and yes.. |
| 17:50 | <piper> | fancyladd: if you have an account with LPI101 you can take the sims for 102 http://www.linux-praxis.de/lpisim/lpi.html |
| 17:50 | <lupine_85> | ah, good good. Are you configuring it using /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 17:50 | <iantlopp> | but it tries to initialize the card for about 15 seconds during bootup, and fails, then when I get into X I've gotta go through a combination of using iwconfig and the Networking applet in Desktop-Administration to get it to function. |
| 17:50 | <lupine_85> | (e.g. with wireless-* clauses) |
| 17:51 | <iantlopp> | lupine: haven't messed with that... |
| 17:51 | <piper> | fancyladd: been a while unless things have changed |
| 17:51 | <iantlopp> | I'm currently on the wireless... |
| 17:52 | <lupine_85> | if you add it as an interface in /etc/network/interfaces, you can configure it as a normal one. Commands can be passed to iwconfig by using wireless-<option> <value> (e.g. wireless-essid zomg) |
| 17:52 | <lupine_85> | With my ralink card, I tended to also have a pre-up iwlist <interface> <scan> as wel |
| 17:52 | <lupine_85> | well* |
| 17:52 | <iantlopp> | well I change the essid just by "iwconfig eth0 essid "MyWiFi" " |
| 17:53 | <lupine_85> | yep, but right now you have to do that every time you boot. If it's in /etc/network/interfaces, it's done automagically |
| 17:53 | <lupine_85> | what sort of wireless encryption are you using? |
| 17:53 | <iantlopp> | okay... give me a moment. |
| 17:53 | <iantlopp> | WEP 128 |
| 17:53 | <iantlopp> | can't go to WPA atm |
| 17:53 | <lupine_85> | you'll want to make switching to WPA a high priority :). But you can do wireless-key <key> in /etc/network/interfaces as well |
| 17:54 | <iantlopp> | 'sides I watch my wireless constantly... I have it log all activity so I can see if people are getting on that I don't want.. |
| 17:54 | <lupine_85> | (make sure it's not readable by anyone but root, of course) |
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| 17:54 | <iantlopp> | and I don't think I'll be able to switch to WPA for quite some time... I have devices that simply don't support it. |
| 17:55 | <lupine_85> | adding explicit configuration options should prevent the hang on bootup (which I assume is dhclient failing because you're not connected) |
| 17:56 | <iantlopp> | is there any way to add a number of different APs to the list, so that it'll go through the list trying to find one, then stay disconnected if no trusted ones are found? |
| 17:56 | <fancyladd> | lls |
| 17:57 | <iantlopp> | and it looks like the Networking applet in Desktop-Administration modifies the interfaces file... that applet can't seem to change the key though, oddly. |
| 17:57 | <lupine_85> | hmm. I would make a pre-up script that does iwlist scan, cuts the AP out and puts it in an environment variable. You should then be able to use wireless-essid $ENV_VAR |
| 17:57 | <iantlopp> | that sounds like fun... will work on that later.. |
| 17:57 | <lupine_85> | well. A mix of grep and cut, probably |
| 17:58 | <iantlopp> | eh, I'm used to messing around with Command Prompt batch in WinXP, so, while there's something to learn here, it shouldn't be too difficult once I get other things set... |
| 17:58 | <lupine_85> | I'm not sure what the "networking" applet does, so you'd have to work that out for yourself |
| 17:58 | <iantlopp> | for now, i'm going to fix interfaces to the current AP i'm on, restart, and see if things are cleared up. |
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| 17:58 | <iantlopp> | lupine: it's the default networking applet installed with Debian. |
| 17:59 | <iantlopp> | err... Debian Stable... |
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| 17:59 | <lupine_85> | mm, I don't have it installed |
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| 18:00 | <iantlopp> | I'd just as soon get rid of it and get something... a bit more robust anyway... I want something like WiFiFoFum, or Netstumbler that can also manage wireless... |
| 18:00 | <lupine_85> | iantlopp: something like "export MY_ESSID=$(iwlist <options> | grep "indentifyingsubstring" | cut -d ' ' -f 2)" would be what you want |
| 18:00 | <iantlopp> | dunno if it exists, but after I get things fixed, I'll try it out. |
| 18:01 | <iantlopp> | I think I'm going to like grep :) reminds me of a *VERY* robust form of something I used to use in a for loop in Command Prompt. |
| 18:01 | <lupine_85> | where "identifyingsubstring" is a bit of text that only appears on lines that also have ESSIDs; and cut -d ' ' shows the seperation of fields in that line (spaces or tabs). -f 2 would return the second field, by the standards of the given delimeter |
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| 18:01 | <lupine_85> | The linux command line is so stupidly powerful, it's great :) |
| 18:02 | <tcsetattr> | awk '/match/{print $2}' |
| 18:02 | <iantlopp> | lupine: very very true... I'm learning this more and more... and loving it... just got a LOT to learn though. |
| 18:02 | <lupine_85> | ...or you could use awk, something I never do... |
| 18:02 | <lupine_85> | not 1337 enough :) |
| 18:03 | <lupine_85> | /sleep |
| 18:03 | <iantlopp> | you'd cry seeing some of dos batch scripts... I've got one that's over 50k designed to replace one line of code... another that's about 98k now that (almost) finds a media card inserted into the machine. |
| 18:04 | <iantlopp> | what's awk? (I already like Grep, sounds very easy to use) |
| 18:04 | <iantlopp> | (oh gawd... just remembered the 200 level nested if statement I wrote a few years back) |
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| 18:07 | <iantlopp> | umm... are there supposed to be two lines that say "wireless-key" on interfaces? |
| 18:07 | <iantlopp> | err... one sais "wireless-key" and the other says "wireless-key1" |
| 18:08 | <iantlopp> | says, rather |
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| 18:24 | <rjbase89> | Hi again. I am running Etch 4.0 and I need to upgrade the kernel. I need to have support for ipw3945 wireless but I don't have internet access right now for the linux box (because I dont have support for 3945) How can I upgrade to the necessary kernel without direct internet access? |
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| 18:40 | <mudge> | hello, i just installed debian, but my sound is really low, any recommendations on turning it up? |
| 18:41 | <mudge> | anyone in here? |
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| 18:43 | <Knorrie> | no |
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| 18:54 | <tcsetattr> | there are many sound volume control utilities (mixers) in debian. I use aumix |
| 18:59 | <peterrooney> | mudge: for command line, try cam package. |
| 18:59 | <Knorrie> | mudge is already gone |
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| 19:09 | <Requiem> | danfit |
| 19:10 | <Requiem> | what happened to the bot? |
| 19:10 | <Requiem> | !simple sid backports |
| 19:10 | <dpkg> | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resulting debs. |
| 19:10 | <Requiem> | there it is |
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| 19:23 | <christian> | hi |
| 19:24 | <christian> | how can i open an archive witch ends like *.tar.Z ? |
| 19:24 | <dendrite> | christian: Try tar tvZf <file> |
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| 19:25 | <dendrite> | christian: If that lists it and is what you want, then replace the 't' with 'x' |
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| 19:25 | <dendrite> | christian: ('t' is tell, 'x' is extract; Z says feed through uncompress. |
| 19:25 | <christian> | dendrite: i try this |
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| 19:26 | <Requiem> | .Z is a tricky one, and heavily depreciated |
| 19:26 | <Knorrie> | christian: ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/ts/tarzfaq.txt |
| 19:26 | <dendrite> | Yeah, .gz or tgz is much more common... |
| 19:26 | <Requiem> | only tool I ever found for it was meant for DOS |
| 19:27 | <dendrite> | Requiem: uncompress.. |
| 19:27 | <Zathras> | hi. Running AMD64 Debian Etch. I want to install modules in/from within Eclipse. I want to do so at /usr/local/lib but I get permission errors. Root cannot logon to desktop by default. How should I procede? |
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| 19:27 | <Requiem> | um |
| 19:27 | <Requiem> | su? |
| 19:28 | <Knorrie> | Zathras: yes, that's a nasty one, try getting a root shell and start eclipse from the commandline |
| 19:28 | <Zathras> | su gives commandline. Not a gui |
| 19:28 | <Knorrie> | that doesn't matter |
| 19:28 | <Knorrie> | eclipse & |
| 19:28 | <Knorrie> | and it will run on your desktop as (!!) root |
| 19:28 | <dendrite> | Zathras: You are talking about installing Linux kernel modules? |
| 19:29 | <Zathras> | no |
| 19:29 | <Knorrie> | dendrite: eclipse |
| 19:29 | <chealer> | Zathras: you only need to do file manipulation? |
| 19:30 | <Zathras> | Knorrie, it has been a while, but should I not give rights to access my X display |
| 19:30 | <Knorrie> | Zathras: root can do all it wants |
| 19:30 | <Zathras> | wierd thing is I added myself to group "staff' which owns /usr/local/lib/eclipse |
| 19:30 | <Zathras> | that is not enough apperently |
| 19:31 | <Zathras> | (eclipse:13433): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 19:32 | <tcsetattr> | !sux |
| 19:32 | <dpkg> | sux is a utility for running X apps as root. aptitude install sux and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <gksu>. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>. |
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| 19:33 | <christian> | gzip -d [file] :) thx |
| 19:33 | <Zathras> | tcsetattr, cool! sux definitly does not suck. Thanks! |
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| 19:35 | <tcsetattr> | actually it does suck. root should only run things that have been well scrutinized for security problems. big libraries like gtk certainly not included |
| 19:35 | <Zathras> | true |
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| 19:48 | <patricio> | hey guys......when I boot, I get an error about their being 'no pre-built modules' and also tells me that it requires a C compiler and proper kernel sources to be installed.......and 'module build failed'.......this is from /var/log/boot |
| 19:49 | <patricio> | I am running 2.6.21.-2-686 |
| 19:49 | <panagos> | /q dpkg |
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| 19:51 | <panagos> | okay, this is weird... but can someone please tell me what my nickname looks to be? thanks :) |
| 19:52 | <tcsetattr> | it's panagos |
| 19:53 | <panagos> | tcsetattr: thank you! i was trying out gaim and to me it says panagos-irc o_O |
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| 19:53 | <patricio> | tcsetattr: do you have any idea about my issue that I have encountered? |
| 19:55 | <tcsetattr> | sounds crazy to me. I can't imagine why you'd be building modules during boot. |
| 19:57 | <patricio> | tcsetattr: I can paste the section from the bootlog file that is in question, would you take a look and give me your opinion? |
| 19:58 | <patricio> | !paste |
| 19:58 | <dpkg> | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 19:59 | <patricio> | tcsetattr: here is the info...........http://paste.debian.net/37230 |
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| 20:01 | <tcsetattr> | Please examine the log file "/var/run/dldrconfig-buildlog.txt" to determine why. |
| 20:01 | <tcsetattr> | that stuff looks totally unfamiliar to me. |
| 20:01 | <patricio> | k |
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| 20:02 | <patricio> | tcsetattr: here is the txt file..........http://paste.debian.net/37231 |
| 20:02 | <tcsetattr> | I don't know what "Saving VESA state" means, or whether it's related to the messages that follow |
| 20:03 | <tcsetattr> | oh it's that "CONFIG_NO_HZ is currently not supported" again. |
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| 20:05 | <patricio> | tcsetattr: you have seen that before? |
| 20:05 | <tcsetattr> | didn't I see it from you yesterday? maybe it was somebody else. |
| 20:06 | <patricio> | ? |
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| 20:19 | <patricio> | no |
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| 20:24 | <knithx> | Hi |
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| 20:33 | <tinman47> | someone help... |
| 20:33 | <tinman47> | please |
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| 20:36 | <mikegrb> | !tell tinman47 about ask |
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| 20:36 | <shifty> | can some 1 tell me how to intall gtk2 and xchat?= |
| 20:36 | <mikegrb> | apt-get install xchat? |
| 20:36 | <shifty> | i want to compile it |
| 20:37 | <shifty> | but i get: Warning: The GTK (GUI) frontend will not be built. |
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| 20:38 | <mikegrb> | why not use the package> |
| 20:38 | <tinman47> | Sorry about the pause, uh I got a Bash script. And its not working. |
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| 20:38 | <shifty> | i want the newest vers. |
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| 20:40 | <tinman47> | 8kb Bash Script. Don't know whats wrong with it. Need help. |
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| 20:41 | <Supaplex> | !tell shifty -about backports |
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| 20:41 | <shifty> | ? |
| 20:42 | <chealer> | Supaplex: there are no backports for the newest xchat version. |
| 20:42 | <Supaplex> | then /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 20:43 | <Supaplex> | failing that, pitch in. software doesn't make itself. or if you'd rather build your own, deinstall the packaged version, and go to the source. yay /usr/local/ |
| 20:44 | <shifty> | i only want to compile the newest xchat ver. ... how can i do that? |
| 20:45 | <chealer> | Supaplex: the newest xchat version is not in sid neither. |
| 20:45 | |-| | Snapser|Sleeping changed nick to Snapser |
| 20:45 | <chealer> | shifty: install libgtk2.0-0 |
| 20:45 | <shifty> | ok... |
| 20:46 | <shifty> | already installed |
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| 20:46 | <chealer> | shifty: then gtk2 is already installed. |
| 20:46 | <Supaplex> | if you don't want to bother with uupdate, grab tarballs from the websites, extract, ./configure ; make ; sudo make install (read the INSTALL's for better docs) |
| 20:46 | <chealer> | shifty: for the rest, ask #xchat |
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| 20:46 | <shifty> | ok... and where? |
| 20:46 | <chealer> | shifty: on freenode |
| 20:46 | <shifty> | k ... thx |
| 20:47 | <mikegrb> | it's a chat network with a protocol kind of like irc |
| 20:47 | <Supaplex> | kind of? |
| 20:47 | <mikegrb> | yes |
| 20:47 | <mikegrb> | "there aren't any rfcs for irc we can do whatever we want" |
| 20:48 | <shifty> | chealer adress? |
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| 20:48 | <Supaplex> | because they extended it, it's not so ... right. |
| 20:48 | <Supaplex> | shifty: irc.freenode.net |
| 20:48 | <peterS> | actually they prefer chat.freenode.net (: |
| 20:48 | <shifty> | ty |
| 20:48 | <mikegrb> | because it isn't really irc ;) |
| 20:48 | <mikegrb> | Supaplex: I prefer s/extended/broke/ |
| 20:49 | <peterS> | you referring to /remove? |
| 20:49 | <peterS> | (it's like /kick but it doesn't tell the client it has been kicked, so the client won't bounce right back in) |
| 20:49 | <Supaplex> | shifty: or google xchat, first his is xchat.org. use download. go to source tarballs. download source. tar xf xchat*bz2 ; cd xchat*/ ; read INSTALL (uninstall debian's xchat prior to make install). be happy. |
| 20:50 | <shifty> | ok |
| 20:50 | <shifty> | i try it |
| 20:50 | <mikegrb> | peterS: stupid... didn't know of this one but just one of many stupid things they do |
| 20:50 | <Supaplex> | s/first his/first hit/ |
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| 20:50 | <peterS> | mikegrb: shrug - I don't use it, I just use kick. the bounce back in problem is easy enough to avoid, by banning before kicking |
| 20:50 | [~] | mikegrb nods |
| 20:51 | <mikegrb> | I just avoid their chat network |
| 20:51 | <tcsetattr> | and this is the real IRC? /me looks at all the longer-than-9 nicks |
| 20:51 | <Supaplex> | yeah, that'll stick it to em. |
| 20:51 | <mikegrb> | I tried it again after lilo was gone and it was a little bit better for a short time |
| 20:51 | <mikegrb> | but anyway, a bit offtopic for #debian ;) |
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| 20:51 | <peterS> | if you want real original RFC-compliant irc, presumably you don't want nickserv or chanserv either |
| 20:52 | <nightstalker> | Moin Moin |
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| 20:52 | <peterS> | but I find those bots to be revolutionary in terms of not having to waste time fighting kiddies who want to own your nick or your channel |
| 20:52 | <tcsetattr> | obviously. I've already gone over how nickserv is stupid. |
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| 20:52 | <nightstalker> | Iss this a Englisch spoken channel ?? |
| 20:52 | <chealer> | nightstalker: yes |
| 20:53 | <nightstalker> | Okay i should read the dokumetation I think |
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| 20:53 | <tcsetattr> | there haven't really been nick wars ever since timestamping was added to allow the older client to survive a collision. nickserv is now an over-solution to a non-problem |
| 20:53 | <Supaplex> | because ddos is history? |
| 20:53 | <Requiem> | okay, I'm getting fun error |
| 20:54 | <Requiem> | Every time something tries to change my resolution, my X server restarts |
| 20:54 | <shifty> | but how is it possible that i get Building GTK+ Interface .... : no if its installed?!? |
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| 20:55 | <Supaplex> | shifty: you get that while compiling gtk? |
| 20:55 | <nightstalker> | I hope it iss Okay if I read what the members write here I think I can learn something |
| 20:55 | <chealer> | shifty: you must be missing the GTK+ development files |
| 20:55 | <chealer> | Supaplex: xchat |
| 20:55 | <shifty> | no xchat |
| 20:55 | <nightstalker> | What do you diskuss |
| 20:55 | <shifty> | i just got Cannot find GTK! Not building GTK FrontEnd. |
| 20:55 | <nightstalker> | discuss |
| 20:55 | <tcsetattr> | when you're not on IRC, there is nothing wrong with someone else having the same nick. you don't own it. it's temporary. that's how IRC is. |
| 20:55 | <chealer> | nightstalker: no problem. this channel is about Debian support. |
| 20:55 | <Supaplex> | shifty: are the dev libs installed? |
| 20:56 | [~] | Supaplex downloads source |
| 20:56 | <nightstalker> | Debian iss running @ my second maschine |
| 20:56 | <nightstalker> | I'am interestet |
| 20:56 | <shifty> | how can i check? |
| 20:56 | <nightstalker> | Thank you |
| 20:57 | <Supaplex> | shifty: apt-get build-dep xchat |
| 20:57 | <nightstalker> | chealer where do you live |
| 20:57 | <shifty> | already done |
| 20:58 | <Supaplex> | shifty: then yes, it's installed. 1m |
| 20:58 | <shifty> | why doesnt it work? |
| 20:58 | <chealer> | nightstalker: I live in Canada, but this is not a social channel. |
| 20:58 | <nightstalker> | Okay sorry |
| 20:59 | <chealer> | shifty: is libgtk2.0-dev installed? |
| 20:59 | <Supaplex> | shifty: did you see this in the log? Cannot find GTK! Not building GTK FrontEnd. |
| 20:59 | <nightstalker> | chealer can I use with Xchat Jabber Servers too |
| 20:59 | <shifty> | yes |
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| 21:00 | <chealer> | nightstalker: I don't know what a Xchat Jabber Server is |
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| 21:00 | <Supaplex> | shifty: I get the same issue, because of this: checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.10.0... no |
| 21:00 | <chealer> | shifty: what did you truncate from the error message? |
| 21:00 | <nightstalker> | I check it out |
| 21:00 | [~] | jagerman wonders why shifty is compiling xchat |
| 21:00 | <Supaplex> | my libgtk2.0-dev is 2.8.20-7 (for now) |
| 21:00 | <Supaplex> | !sns |
| 21:00 | <Supaplex> | !sns syndrome |
| 21:00 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 21:01 | <Supaplex> | (my guess) |
| 21:01 | <shifty> | what? |
| 21:01 | <jagerman> | I thought those people ran for the Gentoo hills, though. |
| 21:01 | <Snapser> | oh noes~ compiling |
| 21:01 | <jagerman> | shifty: Just out of curiousity, why are you compiling xchat? |
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| 21:02 | <shifty> | because i want the newest version ... |
| 21:02 | <jagerman> | sns indeed :( |
| 21:02 | <rickbot> | why not grab it from sid? |
| 21:02 | <chealer> | shifty: you wrote "Building GTK+ Interface .... : no" but I suppose that's not the real output |
| 21:02 | <chealer> | rickbot: it's not in sid |
| 21:03 | <shifty> | ok |
| 21:03 | <jagerman> | Ah, because sid only has 2.8.2 but obviously he needs 2.8.4 |
| 21:03 | <shifty> | checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.10.0... no |
| 21:03 | <shifty> | *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why... |
| 21:03 | <shifty> | *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the |
| 21:03 | <shifty> | *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed. |
| 21:03 | <shifty> | Cannot find GTK! Not building GTK FrontEnd. |
| 21:03 | |-| | mode/#debian [+o peterS] by ChanServ |
| 21:03 | |-| | mode/#debian [+b *!*@155.109.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] by peterS |
| 21:03 | <peterS> | thank you for not pasting |
| 21:03 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o peterS] by peterS |
| 21:03 | <Supaplex> | !tell shifty -about paste |
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| 21:04 | |-| | mode/#debian [+o peterS] by ChanServ |
| 21:04 | |-| | mode/#debian [-b *!*@155.109.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] by peterS |
| 21:04 | <shifty> | ok sry |
| 21:04 | |-| | mode/#debian [-o peterS] by peterS |
| 21:04 | [~] | Supaplex should debootstrap a sid vserver humm... |
| 21:04 | <peterS> | I gave you the +b temporarily in case your paste buffer still had a bunch of stuff in it |
| 21:04 | [~] | jagerman wonders if peterS automates that, but doesn't have the balls to find out :) |
| 21:04 | <peterS> | heh. I run a script to do the +o, +b, -o thing, but I don't have a script to call it automatically on pastes... |
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| 21:06 | <Snapser> | omg~ secret hidden operators~ |
| 21:06 | <chealer> | shifty: you don't have version >= 2.10.0 of the GTK+ development files installed. |
| 21:06 | <jagerman> | Those are the best kind |
| 21:06 | <Snapser> | *pokes peterS* |
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| 21:06 | <Snapser> | *runs away* |
| 21:06 | <shifty> | ok ... how do i install them? |
| 21:07 | <peterS> | fyi, on irc if you want to *do an action* the recommended way is the "/me" feature, found in most irc clients with a command called /me |
| 21:07 | [~] | Supaplex wonders what'll break !! |
| 21:07 | <jagerman> | *fears new commands* |
| 21:08 | [~] | rickbot too! |
| 21:08 | <Snapser> | *phears* |
| 21:09 | <Supaplex> | !scare jagerman |
| 21:09 | [~] | dpkg swiftly pops a paper sack behind jagerman! HAH! made you jump! |
| 21:09 | <jagerman> | shifty: Have you considered upgrading to testing, since you evidentally want newer software? |
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| 21:09 | <shifty> | how do i do that? |
| 21:09 | <peterS> | it's actually still 3 hours prior to Sunday, in my temporal jurisdiction. not that I can tell. |
| 21:09 | <Supaplex> | with care. |
| 21:10 | <Supaplex> | Requiem: how was UTOSC? |
| 21:10 | <jagerman> | !testing |
| 21:10 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, testing is a release/suite between stable and unstable. testing currently points to lenny. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 21:10 | <chealer> | !tell shifty about e2l |
| 21:10 | <peterS> | what is UTOSC? Use The, OMG, Source Code? |
| 21:10 | <Requiem> | Supaplex: Huh? |
| 21:10 | <Supaplex> | utosc.org |
| 21:11 | <Supaplex> | freenode #utos |
| 21:11 | <Requiem> | oh! |
| 21:11 | <Supaplex> | I guess Requiem missed this year. :) |
| 21:11 | <dli> | !tell dli about e21 |
| 21:11 | <Requiem> | found out about that a couple days late |
| 21:11 | <Supaplex> | ewps :p |
| 21:11 | <jagerman> | UFO Social Club with a typo? |
| 21:11 | <Requiem> | peterS: Utah open source conference |
| 21:12 | <peterS> | right |
| 21:12 | <Requiem> | anybody know how to keep X from crashing whenever the resolution changes? |
| 21:12 | <Supaplex> | don't move your arm like that |
| 21:12 | <jagerman> | Ah, so I was only one state east. |
| 21:12 | <Supaplex> | Requiem: have any logs? |
| 21:13 | <Requiem> | hrm, maybe |
| 21:14 | <peterS> | e21? is that anything like e17? |
| 21:14 | <chealer> | hehe |
| 21:14 | <jagerman> | !e21 |
| 21:14 | <chealer> | dli: etch to lenny |
| 21:14 | <Requiem> | the xsession-errors log has nothing relevant |
| 21:15 | <peterS> | Requiem: the usual log is /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:15 | <dli> | chealer, sorry, misread :( |
| 21:15 | <chealer> | dli: no problem. I blame your font :) |
| 21:17 | <Supaplex> | note to self. check for files before traveling cross county... |
| 21:17 | <Requiem> | ton of stuff in here |
| 21:17 | <jagerman> | Check for directories, too. |
| 21:17 | <Requiem> | any idea how to find something relevant? |
| 21:17 | <jagerman> | Requiem: Look for "EE" |
| 21:17 | <jagerman> | IIRC |
| 21:18 | <dli> | chealer, oh, switched back to Times New Roman |
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| 21:19 | <Requiem> | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
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| 21:20 | <jagerman> | You're looking at it just after a crash, before you start it up again? |
| 21:20 | <Requiem> | no |
| 21:21 | <Supaplex> | !lart DRI incapable Screens |
| 21:21 | [~] | dpkg --purges DRI incapable Screens |
| 21:21 | <Requiem> | it starts itself back up automatically |
| 21:21 | <Supaplex> | how are you changing the resolution? |
| 21:21 | <jagerman> | How about /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old then? |
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| 21:21 | <Requiem> | either through KDE's tools, or a Game that changes it for it's own purposes |
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| 21:22 | <Requiem> | ah |
| 21:22 | <Requiem> | Fatal Server Error |
| 21:22 | <jagerman> | What's before that? |
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| 21:23 | <dli> | what would cause kde to display a volume meter on top? hiding everything behind. couldn't move or close the meter |
| 21:23 | <jagerman> | Sucking? |
| 21:24 | <chealer> | dli: is it kmix? |
| 21:25 | <dli> | chealer, my friend called me for help. I asked her to remove kmix and restarted kde, the same |
| 21:26 | <dli> | chealer, eventually, I asked her to switch to gnome. because I couldn't imagine what's going on with kde |
| 21:26 | [~] | Supaplex waits seemingly forever on sync() .oO( Hellooooo usb flash... ) |
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| 21:26 | <jagerman> | Hey peterS, what would it take for someone to fix 344162? |
| 21:26 | <jagerman> | I posted a working fix for it over a year ago :( |
| 21:27 | <dli> | chealer, I will ask her to move away ~/.kde and try one more time |
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| 21:30 | <chealer> | dli: ask #debian-kde. it could be helpful to have a screenshot |
| 21:31 | <Requiem> | !paste |
| 21:31 | <dpkg> | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 21:31 | <dli> | chealer, thanks |
| 21:32 | <Requiem> | PeterS: http://rafb.net/p/5mnhB997.html |
| 21:32 | <Supaplex> | uh... I think umount is dain brammaged. system is 40-60% use, user takes up the balance. 0% idle. umount is in the D state for like 5+ minutes now, and strace shows no further activity thus far. |
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| 21:33 | <Supaplex> | usb activity light is on. previously I rsynced ~ 800mb onto it. |
| 21:33 | <Supaplex> | strange.... |
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| 21:34 | <Supaplex> | oh sure now it completes. |
| 21:34 | <Snapser> | lol |
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| 21:36 | <Snapser> | I want a good adventure/rpg game~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`` |
| 21:36 | <Supaplex> | like nethack? |
| 21:37 | <Snapser> | without MMO |
| 21:38 | <Supaplex> | so network notepad is out of the question? |
| 21:38 | <Snapser> | yes |
| 21:38 | <Supaplex> | no irc for you! |
| 21:38 | <Snapser> | lol~ |
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| 21:39 | <dli> | Supaplex, D is defunct, right? |
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| 21:39 | <Supaplex> | dli: as in Disk i/o |
| 21:39 | <kurumin_> | Alguém aí fala português? |
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| 21:44 | <nightstalker> | ?? |
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| 21:52 | <darius> | hey folks |
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| 22:01 | <kurumin> | join #sex |
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| 22:04 | <Ming> | morning guys |
| 22:05 | <klys> | 'mornin' |
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| 22:06 | <Ming> | i have 2 nics in my etch 40r0 system, and need to removed one of them |
| 22:06 | <Ming> | unfortunetly it doesnt detect the second one |
| 22:07 | <Ming> | hopfully this is not a hardware problem |
| 22:07 | <Ming> | i think its just the cofig |
| 22:07 | <Ming> | where is the config file that defines the network adapters? |
| 22:08 | <Ming> | like eth0 etc |
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| 22:08 | <klys> | in /etc/modules and /etc/i |
| 22:08 | <Ming> | thanks klys |
| 22:08 | <klys> | in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:08 | <klys> | not /etc/i |
| 22:08 | <Ming> | nice one |
| 22:09 | <Ming> | innit, was abit confused there:P |
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| 22:23 | <kurumin> | \j #help |
| 22:24 | <kurumin> | hi |
| 22:25 | <dendrite> | Hello. |
| 22:25 | |-| | moicano changed nick to localhost |
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| 22:25 | <kurumin> | alguem do brasil?? |
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| 22:26 | <dendrite> | !pt |
| 22:26 | <dpkg> | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:26 | <kurumin> | I brasil linux user |
| 22:26 | <dendrite> | kurumin: Or speak English here. :-) |
| 22:27 | <kurumin> | bye |
| 22:28 | <moicano> | kurumin VOA daqui |
| 22:28 | <kurumin> | bye |
| 22:28 | <kurumin> | bye |
| 22:28 | <kurumin> | byebye |
| 22:28 | <kurumin> | byebyebyevbyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebye |
| 22:28 | <kurumin> | byebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyev |
| 22:28 | <moicano> | ¬¬ |
| 22:28 | <kurumin> | foda-se filho da puta |
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| 22:30 | <ameyer> | should I !ops? |
| 22:30 | <ameyer> | that was way too many byes |
| 22:30 | <dendrite> | ameyer: It's over now. |
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| 22:31 | <ameyer> | I'm surprised floodserv didn't kline *!*@* |
| 22:31 | <ameyer> | again |
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| 22:41 | <redspotted> | joer me pirerdo en el topic |
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| 22:41 | <redspotted> | k ierda |
| 22:41 | <redspotted> | nose nada |
| 22:42 | <redspotted> | seguro que alguien me ayuda |
| 22:42 | <redspotted> | debian lenny en sata |
| 22:42 | <redspotted> | ? |
| 22:43 | <redspotted> | o un besio en la bopca? |
| 22:43 | <ameyer> | !es |
| 22:43 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 22:43 | <redspotted> | dpkg -ix ok |
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| 22:44 | <redspotted> | dpkl |
| 22:44 | <klys> | d-pickle |
| 22:44 | <redspotted> | tu mensaje ha sido dfe mu cha ayuda |
| 22:44 | <redspotted> | ode ninguna |
| 22:44 | <redspotted> | vamos |
| 22:44 | <klys> | dpkg -x file.deb /path |
| 22:45 | <klys> | dpkg -iGREB file.deb |
| 22:45 | <redspotted> | ok ok |
| 22:45 | <redspotted> | nose |
| 22:45 | <redspotted> | me pierdo |
| 22:45 | <redspotted> | ademas ya paso |
| 22:45 | <redspotted> | no tengo ese pc |
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| 22:45 | <redspotted> | lo intente con el |
| 22:46 | <redspotted> | era un compaq presario 2159ES |
| 22:46 | <redspotted> | de media mark |
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| 22:46 | <redspotted> | lo iento |
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| 22:49 | <Arron> | has anyone got autofs to work? no matter what i try, i still have no luck |
| 22:56 | <redspotted> | hi |
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| 22:57 | <simonrvn> | !en |
| 22:57 | <dpkg> | i guess en is english |
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| 22:59 | <redspotted> | oh |
| 22:59 | <redspotted> | hi dpkg |
| 22:59 | <redspotted> | -i? |
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| 23:01 | <moicano> | halt |
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| 23:10 | <ioport> | hello, what filesystem recomend for a partition of 400gb? |
| 23:11 | <ioport> | format |
| 23:12 | <gsimmons> | !ext3 |
| 23:12 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, ext3 is the One True Filesystem. If you have to ask what filesystem you should be using, use ext3. Ask me about <ext2->ext3>, <xfs> and <ricerfs>. |
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| 23:13 | <chealer> | ioport: I don't think size changes the preferred filesystem significantly |
| 23:14 | <ioport> | ok |
| 23:14 | <ioport> | thanks |
| 23:14 | <ioport> | i use ext3 |
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| 23:14 | <ioport> | nodes i: 2856/3252 zzzzzzz |
| 23:15 | <ioport> | i a sata disk in a box with usb |
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| 23:35 | <Brudus> | This really isn't about debain. It's kinda about two things. ice weasel and totem. When I go to view an embeded video it plays that video using totem. Now in the prefrenses of toem I told it to play with VLC. Also something else with totem. The time bar doesn't move it just stays to the left. anyone know how to fix this. |
| 23:35 | <jclinton> | don't use totem |
| 23:35 | <jclinton> | uninstall totem-mozilla package and install something that actually works |
| 23:36 | <jclinton> | suggestions to try: mplayer-mozilla |
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| 23:52 | <Arron> | how can i get ivman/hal to mount a usb storage device? i get "ivman: Device /dev/sdb can't be mounted because it is not a volume" or "(ivm_device_is_mountable) Device /dev/sde1 won't be mounted because no mount policy was specified on volume or storage device and storage device does not appear to be removable" errors. |
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