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#debian IRC Logs for 2007-11-04

---Logopened Sun Nov 04 00:00:01 2007
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00:01<kminor>yeah, nodoubt
00:01<kminor>Even if it's IRC logs, it'd suffice
00:01<ArcAiN6>another great one is when you find some documention labeled for ETCH and three lines in they start sputtering ubuntu stuffs
00:02<ArcAiN6>or suse
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00:02<ArcAiN6>i used to like suse... but that was before novell got thier grubble little pud-thumpers on it
00:03<kminor>hahaha yeah, or once again mainly from non-official repo, a package that has been converted without the maintainter fixxing the scripts from the original distro be it suse/fedora or whatever...
00:03<ArcAiN6>yea
00:04<ArcAiN6>toasted packages seem to be more common than i remeber them a few years back
00:04<ArcAiN6>too many people with thier hands in jar, and not enough of them wearing gloves
00:04<kminor>indeed
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00:07<bighornram>why is enigmail not available in Lenny?
00:07<ArcAiN6>because
00:08<bighornram>....
00:08<ArcAiN6>they didn't want you to have it?
00:08<bighornram>there is a wise a** in every bunch.
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00:09<ArcAiN6>On Linux, Enigmail will only work properly if compiled with the same compiler version as Mozilla was compiled
00:10<ArcAiN6>lol
00:11<ArcAiN6>he left before i could get him a link
00:12<kminor>some peepz expect u to have all ur notes/resources on hand pshht...
00:13<kminor>of course that's why I stopped joining irc.freenode.net ...it's being continually populated by individuals of an inferior IQ level, so it seems....
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00:18<jeluce45>hi
00:18<jeluce45>what do ypu doing?
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00:20[~]ArcAiN6 offers his compiler some methamphetamines
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00:22<kminor>the free Intel compilers r pretty damn quick...even though I hate to admit it...
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00:27<kminor>I think I found it, I have to add some new PATH lines to the pkgwhatever.preinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info ...blegh...
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00:30<sirpadfoot>#linux
00:30<sirpadfoot>#keks
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00:39<wenming>hi
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00:55<GhostlyDeath>The Proprties dialog crashes
00:56<GhostlyDeath>Windows 95's EXPLORER.EXE seems more stable than this at the moment
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01:00<AYMEY>HAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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01:29<eddy>hola
01:30<eddy>quie me puede ayudara configurar ,i apache2?
01:30<eddy>toc toc toc
01:30<dli>!tell eddy about es
01:32<eddy>(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
01:32<eddy>en ubuntu 7.10
01:33<dli>!tell eddy about ubuntu
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02:00<AndyJ_Australia>In a fit of crazyness, I'm trying to install Quake III onto my debian AMD-64(etch) box
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02:00<AndyJ_Australia>The installer is asking for glibc-2.0 ...
02:00<AndyJ_Australia>The debian site says use Synaptic
02:00<AndyJ_Australia>but Synaptic cannot find it...
02:00<AndyJ_Australia>Any suggestions?
02:01<AndyJ_Australia>If you are running Debian, it is strongly suggested to use a package manager like aptitude or synaptic to download and install packages, instead of doing so manually via this website.
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02:02<AndyJ_Australia>Is glibc-2.0 available for AMD-64?
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02:12<liyiwen>hello
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03:51<peter__>passiert hier was
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04:16<R0CK_>Hello guys
04:16<jakeriver>hello
04:16<R0CK_>how I'm about forwarding some ports, It shows pop3 port "110" is already in use.
04:16<R0CK_>and i want to use it.
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04:17<R0CK_>how can i stop it?
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04:17<R0CK_>Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
04:17<R0CK_>tcp 0 0 *:pop3 *:* LISTEN
04:18<R0CK_>I want to stop listening to this port, and run that port on a proxy.
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04:19<josh_>can anyone get to http://www.howtoforge.com/ ? for me, it sends me to imageshack.. im thinking its a DNS problem?
04:20<cahoot>R0CK_: netstat to see what's listening?
04:20<R0CK_>it shows only roto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
04:20<R0CK_>tcp 0 0 *:pop3 *:* LISTEN
04:21<R0CK_>it sounds not related to any other software.
04:21<R0CK_>because I already remove the pop3 server.
04:21<cahoot>R0CK_: netstat -plunta ?
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04:22<R0CK_>Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
04:22<R0CK_>tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:110 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2653/i
04:22<R0CK_>inetd
04:22<R0CK_>oh i c
04:22<R0CK_>the inetd
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04:23<R0CK_>well, how to stop the inetd using this port ?
04:24<cahoot>R0CK_: edit inetd.conf and restart inetd?
04:25<geronimono>instead of restarting inetd, send sighup to it...
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04:26<geronimono>kill -1 `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`
04:27<cahoot>kill -SIGHUP `pidof inetd`?
04:28<geronimono>cahoot: that will also do fine. :)
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04:30<R0CK_>thanks cahoot
04:30<R0CK_>you're so kind.
04:30<R0CK_>it's working,..
04:30<R0CK_>my pleasure, bye.
04:30<nostalgia>hello
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04:34<tzafrir>I have occasional lockups on my Etch system. I suspect that this is related to the x server, as it has only started happening once I started using the system with X
04:34<jonathanabrahams>can anyone help me with this error on debian : "Too many open files"
04:34<tzafrir>But I'm a bit lost on ways of debugging
04:35<jonathanabrahams>Can't login via ssh because of it
04:35<tzafrir>jonathanabrahams, more than 1024 file descriptors used in a process?
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04:35<tzafrir>Usually it is due to a leak
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04:36<jonathanabrahams>The problem started after doing an svn export of the entire tree
04:36<tzafrir>can you run a command? e.g: ssh server ls
04:36<cahoot>tzafrir: nothing helpful logged in ~/.xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log, syslog etc?
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04:36<tzafrir>cahoot, nothing there.
04:36<tzafrir>Nothing from the moment of the crash
04:37<jonathanabrahams>tzafrir : can't login or run command
04:37<tzafrir>The system is completely frozen. Does not respond to pings
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04:38<jonathanabrahams>tzafrir what is worse is that the server sits of site
04:38<tzafrir>jonathanabrahams, do you see anything interesting with ssh -v ?
04:39<jonathanabrahams>it authenticates me and all that but disconnects me after the error
04:40<tzafrir>I have already tried upgrading the kernel to the latest from backports.org . But I'm less sure about trying a newer X.
04:40<NoteToe>what is the bip project
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04:41<tzafrir>jonathanabrahams, any idea from what command that error comes specifically?
04:43<jonathanabrahams>the 1024 file descriptors... u mensioned earlier could be the cause, since i did the export which was realllly huge, tons of small files
04:44<jonathanabrahams>svn export ....
04:45<jonathanabrahams>would like to remove those files but cant get on to the server B(
04:46<weasel>why would svn ever need more than 1024 FDs at the same time?
04:47<weasel>jonathanabrahams: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
04:47<cahoot>he can't connect
04:48<weasel>no console?
04:48<cahoot>seems so
04:48<jonathanabrahams>No console server off site in another country
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04:48<weasel>then you lose.
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04:48<jonathanabrahams>big time...
04:49<weasel>ask for it to be rebooted.
04:49<jonathanabrahams>is not svn could gzip be a cause
04:49<jonathanabrahams>not too sure of the FD thing and when those are created
04:50<jonathanabrahams>it take it that 1024 processes are trying to access files...
04:50<weasel>1024 is the per-process limit by default. your system should have a much higher system-wide limit
04:50<weasel>and fds are cheap
04:51<weasel>when you have your system back, run cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
04:51<weasel>it'll show you how many FDs are in use, and how many your system can have total
04:51<weasel>if the total number is too small, just echo a larger one into file-max
04:51<weasel>lsof will show you which process has which FDs open
04:52<jonathanabrahams>great stuff will investigate that route
04:52<weasel>weasel@intrepid:~$ cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
04:52<weasel>4384 0 205668
04:52<weasel>e.g. here on my desktop about 4k out of 200k are used
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04:53<jonathanabrahams>this server is not that busy... could expect similar results then
04:54<jonathanabrahams>the reboot should get ssh access back online?
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04:56<weasel>probably
04:57<jonathanabrahams>ok then, thanks weasel and tzafrir..
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05:15<nostalgia>hello folks i want to install a windows vitural machine over a linux debain box and have got the package for doing so but can somebdoy tel me how to make an entry in grub and where the entry should be made
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06:02<evilmanu>hi
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06:03<Klon_01>evilmanu: hi :)
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06:08<evilmanu>I have a quest
06:08<evilmanu>how can I setup a program to start at boot?
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06:09<Guest420>add it to rc.local
06:09[~]quick is away: Gone away for now.
06:09<Guest420>/etc/rc.d/rc.local
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06:11<evilmanu>I have more rc.d
06:12<evilmanu>I have rc[0-9].d
06:12<evilmanu>I have rc[0-6].d
06:12<evilmanu>and rcS.d
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06:13<evilmanu>which one is the correct one?
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06:15<Guest420>/etc/rc.d/rc.local evilmanu
06:15<evilmanu>I don't have it
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06:16<Guest420>you do not have /etc/rc.d ?
06:16<evilmanu>no, I have : rc0.d/ rc1.d/ rc2.d/ rc3.d/ rc4.d/ rc5.d/ rc6.d/ rcS.d/
06:16<Guest420>okay try rc0
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06:17<evilmanu>no
06:17<fxiny>bootmisc
06:18<chealer>evilmanu: do you have an init script for it?
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06:18<evilmanu>hhmm... don't know
06:18<lupine_85>init.d
06:19<lupine_85>/etc/init.d is where the initscripts are stored
06:19<lupine_85>rc?.d are full of symlinks that link to those scripts
06:19<evilmanu>init.d I have it
06:19<evilmanu>and I have found rc.local at /etc/rc.local
06:20<fxiny>there's no rc.local . drop your file in /etc/init.d and link it to /etc/rc2.d or see /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
06:20<evilmanu>and in init.d too
06:20<evilmanu>ok
06:20<lupine_85>rc.local is run at the /end/ of each multiuser runlevel
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06:23<Fafa>I have a problem with my DVD drive
06:23<Fafa>hello first of all :)
06:25<Akuna>#ubuntu-fr
06:26<Fafa>?
06:26<Fafa>i'm under debian
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06:26<fxiny>yes , you are safe :)
06:26<Fafa>yes i'm french but i've got the translater next to me :p
06:28<Akuna>salut ya personne sur ubuntu fr
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06:30<Fafa>fait un /list *ubuntu*
06:30<Akuna>ou??
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06:30<Fafa>bah ici
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06:30<legion>ImportError: No module named cherrypy <-- i have the most recent cherrypy installed, but it still complains ?!?!
06:32<Fafa>okay i'll come back later :)
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06:33<Akuna><chealer>hi
06:33<fxiny>30516 entries from the same ip : RIIA ? heheheeh
06:34<fxiny>dossing galore ...
06:34<legion>anyone in here using SABnzbd?
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06:35<chealer>Akuna: hi. use #ubuntu for discussion about Ubuntu.
06:39<Akuna><chealer>no I am in iverycoast and I am to despair
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06:43<fxiny>hmmm : i believe is a zombie
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06:50<frido>Hi, when my mdraid1 is syncing, how can I know which disk while is done sync is source and which is destination ?
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06:53<alan>Hi, I dont obtain mount my pen driver
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06:54<legion>frodo
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06:58<legion>ImportError: No module named cherrypy <-- i have the most recent cherrypy installed, but it still complains ?!?!
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07:12<rSp>hi
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07:13<rSp>i need help for choice security distroy
07:13<rSp>which is safer and flexible ?
07:14<petemc>this is a debian support channel
07:14<rSp>i know
07:14<rSp>only thing is i need litel help
07:14<rSp>:D
07:14<rSp>debian or bsd :D ?
07:15<rSp>http://securityvulns.com/exploits/?keyword=debian
07:15<rSp>http://securityvulns.com/exploits/?keyword=bsd
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07:16<hemoglobin>I upgraded debian etch to debian lenny, X, don t start, error driver Nvidia
07:17<hemoglobin>so I removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
07:17<hemoglobin>X started
07:17<hemoglobin>but I thinked he generate new xorg.conf
07:17<hemoglobin>but he didn t
07:17<hemoglobin>is some app to make new default xorg.conf ?
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07:18<cahoot>!drxx
07:18<dpkg>To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about <xmd5sum> if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself.
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07:37<hemoglobin>How to install nvdia driver on debian lenny ? I don t have it in repo.
07:37<hemoglobin>I have nvidia FX 5700
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07:39<Eulex>!tell hemoglobin about nvidia oneliner
07:40<hemoglobin>Eulex: I don t understand
07:40<gsimmons>hemoglobin: You'll need to backport it from sid.
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07:46<chealer>!tell hemoglobin about ngd
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08:08<legion>ImportError: No module named cherrypy <-- i have the most recent cherrypy installed, but it still complains ?!?! after i installed sabnzbd , and when i try to execute it, it complains about cherry sigh py
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08:10<legion>i love linux
08:10<legion>but right now im in linux hell O_O
08:10<bzed>legion: which python version are you trying to use, and are you on etch or lenny/testing?
08:11<legion>im using the newest python 2.4 I think, Etch
08:12<legion>newest cherrypy as well
08:12<bzed>run python
08:12<bzed>and ente rimport cherrypy there
08:12<legion>bzed how would I do that? noob here
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08:12<bzed>legion: open a temrin, enter python2.4 there
08:13<bzed>then you get a new promt
08:13<bzed>enter import cherrypy there
08:13<legion>i did and nothing happened?
08:13<bzed>you get a >>> again?
08:13<legion>yes
08:13<bzed>then your cherrypy installation is just fine
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08:14<bzed>sabnzbd must mess with the sys.path of python then
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08:15<bzed>legion: sabnzbd is not a debian package, so you wanna ask the author or somebody else who knows about it
08:15<legion>bzed, ---> http://pastebin.com/m7c6bf487
08:16<bzed>legion: head -1 ~/.SABnzbd/sabnzbd/SABnzbd.py
08:16<bzed>run that
08:16<bzed>what's the output?
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08:17<legion>#!/home/root/.SABnzbd/bin/python -OO
08:17<bzed>legion: why the hell do you have an extra python installed in /home/root/.SABnzbd >
08:18<legion>bzed i dont know.. I just runned apt-get install python2.4
08:18<bzed>and you should NOT un such things as root.
08:18<bzed>legion: no, you put that SABnzbd stuff in there, and it obviously comes with a broken python
08:18<petemc>i use hellanzb , works well
08:18<bzed>legion: and again, don';t run such things as root
08:19<legion>petemc, i didnt like hellanzb
08:19<petemc>why not?
08:19<legion>bzed, okay, but do you have any suggestions on how to proceed?
08:19<legion>petemc, i just didnt :)
08:19<petemc>fair enough
08:19<petemc>copy files to a dir, it downloads them
08:19<petemc>i dont see whats not to like, but horses for courses
08:20<bzed>legion: edit the SANwhatever .py file, and replace /home/root/... by /usr/bin/python
08:20<bzed>so you have #!/usr/bin/python up there
08:20<bzed>although I doubt that works
08:20<bzed>you want to install that stuff properly
08:21<legion>hmm
08:21<legion>but i just followed the readme, how could it go wrong?
08:21<bzed>I've never used it, but all I can tell is that it should not bring ti's own python
08:21<Eulex>they provided broken instructions?
08:21<legion>after i installed all the things i needed, i runned python sabnzbd.py install
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08:22<legion>Eulex, doubtful.. ive runned sab on ubuntu/gentoo/windows
08:22<bzed>no clue what it does.
08:22<bzed>but it looks just broken
08:22<bzed>ask somebody who created it
08:22<bzed>:)
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08:24<legion>hmm okay
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08:33<gcs>Is there any gnome based database editor? I mean where I can define tables, connections between them and it would generate the needed SQL.
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08:46<Jabka>Are there any BTN (balanced Ternary Notation) based software in debian ? (i can't find one)
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08:48<bzed>Jabka: tried apt-cache search btn ?
08:48<bzed>Jabka: or search on packages.debian.org
08:49<Jabka>or actually could some one guide to such program
08:49<bzed>why do something you can do?
08:49<Jabka>actually did but what i got was a lib in C++ not for BTN but that string was inside the package name
08:50<Jabka>bzed : what do you mean?
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08:51<bzed>Jabka: well then it seems there's nothing with BTN in debian :)
08:52<Jabka>BTN is an idea and work procces it used for biological eng.
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08:52<Jabka>but i wish to find examples since i didn't sow that kind of code in my life
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09:27<andrej>can some one tell me where can i get links for my sourecs list
09:27<petemc>http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
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09:28<andrej>i'm new to this so thx :)
09:28<petemc>deb <mirror>/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
09:28<petemc>replace mirror with one from that list, preferably in your region
09:29<floku>andrej: or use "apt-spy" to find the fastest mirror (it will write your sources.list based on bandwidth tests)
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09:30<andrej>i'll try that thx !!!
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09:40<janux-xmind>hi guys?
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09:41<janux-xmind>can someone help me to get eclipseME installed on my debian?
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09:55<janux-xmind>hi guys?
09:56<janux-xmind>i want to get eclipseME installed on my debian
09:56<JasonS>janux-xmind: whats eclipseme?
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09:57<janux-xmind>an eclipse plugin to easyly develop j2me project
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09:59<JasonS>janux-xmind: you read this? http://eclipseme.org/docs/installation.html
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09:59<janux-xmind>i'm on it
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10:13<janux-xmind>does someone know how i can install sun wireless toolkit 2.1
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10:17<arijus>hello
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10:17<arijus>can anybody help me with unrar in ubuntu?
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10:17<Markjuh>what's the problem with unrar?
10:18<arijus>with sudo apt-get install unrar i get an error
10:18<arijus>E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
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10:19<arijus>i just turned tu Linux, so i don't know what's the problem
10:19<petemc>unrar is in non-free
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10:19<arijus>that means?
10:20|-|hamael changed nick to Hamael
10:20<petemc>!non-free sources
10:20<dpkg>[non-free sources] edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then apt-get update, or but bear in mind that you'll be installing non-free software. This may have onerous terms; check the licenses.
10:20<Hamael>i need some help here
10:21<Hamael>i have some folders that i copied from a ntfs windows drive
10:21<Hamael>but i have no accses to them
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10:21<Hamael>access*
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10:22<arijus>how then i can unrar my archives?
10:22<petemc>unrar e file.rar
10:22<the-dude>or unrar x file
10:22<petemc>or unrar x file.rar , if you want it to keep file paths
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10:23<arijus>i got an error that unrar is not installed
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10:23<the-dude>apt-get install unrar
10:23<petemc>arijus: did you read what dpkg said about non-free ?
10:23<arijus>if i try to install unrar
10:23<arijus>E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
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10:24<the-dude>apt-get install unrar-free
10:24<fxiny>scroll up a bit
10:24<samJohn>i'm shopping for a new laptop. Can anyone recommend one suitable for debian? I'm looking at the lower end models.
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10:26<the-dude>samJohn: almost anything will do these days, just find your laptop and search google
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10:27<Hamael>hello?
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10:27<Hamael>can someone help me please?
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10:27<Hamael>i have some folders that i copied from a ntfs windows drive
10:28<Hamael>but i have no accses to them
10:28<arijus>but still unrar-free fails unraring
10:28<Hamael>i don't have the necesary premission
10:28<Hamael>it says
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10:29<the-dude>arijus: try unrar -t
10:29<petemc>Hamael: now might be a good time to read up on permissions
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10:30<kamaraju>Is there a debian gcc IRC channel available?
10:30<petemc>!tell Hamael about permissions
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10:30<fxiny>arijus: check : file file.rar
10:30<fxiny>it could say RIIA special device :P
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10:31<arijus>no, it doesn't say RIIA special device :)
10:31<fxiny>arijus: :)
10:31<arijus>or i don't understand something :)
10:32<jf>Hamael, take a look at gid ans uid option on the command mount
10:32<petemc>jf: for folders?
10:33<arijus>damn, where is the problem, i really need to extract that archive
10:33<jf>petemc, for the ntfs partition
10:33<petemc>try the unrar from non-free
10:33<petemc>jf: to what end?
10:33<petemc>its still going to be ro
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10:33<fxiny>arijus: could be a rar version issue : try rar non free then rar x file.rar
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10:34<jf>petemc, so that the partition will be own by him and i could copy files
10:35<petemc>my understanding of the question was that files were already copied, but ok...
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10:37<kamaraju>when using konversation as the IRC client, I am seeing a lot of "user has left this server", "user has joined this channel" etc., Where is the configuration item to diable this kind of notifications?
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10:37<cahoot>kamaraju: depends on the client
10:37<Markjuh>unrar-free almost never works for me... I always use unrar from the non-free stuff
10:37<arijus>fixiny: i didn't understand :) well, newbie on linux :)
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10:37<kamaraju>cahoot: I mentioned that my client is konversation
10:37<cahoot>kamaraju: sorry
10:38<kamaraju>cahoot: It's all right
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10:38<deepak>how can i flush dns
10:38<deepak>*dns cache
10:38<petemc>what dns cache?
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10:39<petemc>if you're using bind9 as a caching name server, restart it
10:39<keyz>hi
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10:40<arijus>how to use unrar non free?
10:40<petemc>have you installed it yet?
10:40<arijus>i think so
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10:41<kamaraju>Ok finally found it myself. Thanks guys
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10:42<arijus>petemc, what if i didn't, what is the exactly name of unrar non free?
10:43<arijus>maybe a stupid question but whatever :)
10:43<fxiny>rar comes with different version iirc free is the old one and cannot open the latest
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10:43<Markjuh>the package should just be called unrar if I remember correctly
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10:43<petemc>it is
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10:44<petemc>apt-cache policy unrar
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10:45<arijus>it says that unrar is not installed and doesn't has any install candidate
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10:46<arijus>if i understand correctly
10:46<petemc>did you ensure you have non-free sources in sources.list?
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10:46<arijus>no
10:46<petemc>depsite being told to a number of times
10:46<fxiny>hehehe
10:46<petemc>hardly seems worth it to tell you again
10:47<The_Ultimate_Samurai>quick question, where would i go to find wxpython.wx?
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10:47<petemc>The_Ultimate_Samurai: /msg dpkg search
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10:47<petemc>The_Ultimate_Samurai: follow what dpkg says about apt-file
10:48<arijus>hey, i just turned to linux ubuntu, i don't see the difference betwen free and non-free and my english is apsolutely broken. so pleace, help for a newbie like for a newbie :)
10:48<petemc>if you're using ubuntu, you need to ask #ubuntu
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10:48<petemc>on freenode
10:48<petemc>they have other methods of enabling non-free repos
10:49<The_Ultimate_Samurai>thats very confusing
10:49<arijus>ok
10:49<floku>arijus: go to #ubuntu and ask about "multiverse"
10:49<arijus>thanks anyways
10:49<petemc>The_Ultimate_Samurai: aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search wxpython.wx
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10:53<The_Ultimate_Samurai>some of these on the to be removed list bother me...ark, apache2 artsbuilder..
10:53<The_Ultimate_Samurai>aww my kcalc...
10:53<The_Ultimate_Samurai>noo juk too...
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10:55<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: use "apt-get" to install if you have never used aptitude before
10:55<The_Ultimate_Samurai>?
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10:56<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: I assumed you were running petemc's "aptitude install" command.
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10:56<The_Ultimate_Samurai>yes
10:57<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: Try "apt-get install apt-file" instead, or use your package manager of choice to install "apt-file"
10:57<Johi>#sidux
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10:57<The_Ultimate_Samurai>>.> most of the things being removed i didnt notice til i agreed to it
10:57<The_Ultimate_Samurai>so..its already going right now
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10:58<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: save (copy/paste) the list of removed packages so that you can reinstall them
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11:00<The_Ultimate_Samurai>i dont still need xserver-xfree86 anymore do it?
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11:00<The_Ultimate_Samurai>since i have xorg...
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11:00<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: then you don't need xserver-xfree86 anymore
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11:01<The_Ultimate_Samurai>a lot of what its removing are old things anyways....but some i will need to get back
11:03<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: aptitude is very powerful and it can keep your system clean by automatically removing unneeded packages
11:03<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: however, you should not start to use it before reading its (excellent) documentation
11:03<The_Ultimate_Samurai>oh wow, my juk looks different now
11:04<The_Ultimate_Samurai>so it didnt uninstall juk, it just removed something or another
11:04<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: also, next time just say "no" if a package manager proposed to remove half your system...
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11:04<The_Ultimate_Samurai>well i knew most of them were old or things i didnt need
11:04<The_Ultimate_Samurai>though some were lib's which i didnt know what they did
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11:05<The_Ultimate_Samurai>i just figured most of what it was proposing to remove were some of the old files that have been choking my system of late anyways
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11:05<The_Ultimate_Samurai>but...apt-file isnt working
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11:06<petemc>how so?
11:06<The_Ultimate_Samurai>well the apt-file update just hangs there
11:06<The_Ultimate_Samurai>it doesnt seem to be doing anything
11:06<petemc>it takes a while to do the first update
11:06<petemc>patience is the name of the game
11:06<floku>The_Ultimate_Samurai: patience, grasshopper ;)
11:07<The_Ultimate_Samurai>oh, well usualy i see feedback that its actually doing something
11:07<petemc>!find wxpython.wx
11:07<dpkg>Debian Search of 'wxpython.wx' (1): (/usr/share/boa-constructor/Docs/wxpython.wx.htb) in devel/boa-constructor.
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11:08<The_Ultimate_Samurai>hmm...i have that file..
11:09<lsd>coin
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11:09<The_Ultimate_Samurai>i wonder why bittornado isnt working then...
11:10<The_Ultimate_Samurai>it says wxpython isnt installed or isnt set up properly
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11:13<petemc>The_Ultimate_Samurai: how did you install bittornado?
11:13<The_Ultimate_Samurai>apt-get a realy long time ago
11:14<The_Ultimate_Samurai>its been working fine...but now it has stopped
11:14<petemc>try installing a newer veriosn of it
11:14<The_Ultimate_Samurai>i have
11:14<The_Ultimate_Samurai>ive tried uninstalling and then re-installing it
11:14<petemc>by the sounds of it, you need to update your system as a whole
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11:14<The_Ultimate_Samurai>ive tried uninstalling bittorrent and bittornado and then reinstalling just bittornado
11:15<The_Ultimate_Samurai>and failing that re-installing bittorrent
11:15<The_Ultimate_Samurai>i just recently did an apt-get dist-upgrade
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11:17<Turms>does anybody know why claws-mail is not yet in lenny ? last may i built it taking sources from sid, but i thought in a month or two that situation would be settled
11:17<petemc>!why is claws-mail not in testing
11:17<dpkg>claws-mail is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=claws-mail
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11:38<kozek>hi, im tryin to make my kernel(2.6.23.1) but i get error like: Sorry, your compiler is too old/or not recognized. i have gcc2.95 gcc3.0 either
11:39<kozek>so whats wrong?
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11:39<Eulex>kozek, it tells you exactly what's wrong. you need a newer gcc.
11:40<kozek>ive installed 3.4 either
11:40<kozek>but its still sux
11:40<kozek>as i know its the newest one
11:40<Eulex>I assume you need to tell it in some way to use 3.4 then. I'm not sure whether even 3.4 would work, though.
11:40<cahoot>does the changelog say what gcc version is needed?
11:41<Eulex>kozek, are you running sarge?
11:41<kozek>yrp
11:41<kozek>yep
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11:41<kozek>w8 a bit, i havent checked changelog yet :P
11:42<Eulex>kozek, you might consider upgrading to etch.
11:42<cahoot>gcc 3.2 should do
11:42<kozek>yep it says 3.2 is enough
11:42<kozek>so i cant compile it on sarge?
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11:46<kozek>no idea?
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11:48<kozek>hm?
11:49<kozek>omg, there are 300 ppl and nobody helps
11:49<kozek>what the fuck happened with this scene
11:49<gravity>You have a newer gcc installed?
11:50<kozek>3 different gcc versions are installed now
11:50<kozek>3.4 either
11:50<gravity>kozek: If so, you can manually re-symlink /usr/bin/gcc to the one you want
11:50<gravity>kozek: Or, even better, just pass the right environment variable to the build script
11:50<gravity>I don't know what that is, probably CC or GCC or something
11:51<kozek>sorry i forget to paste something
11:51<kozek>forgot*
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11:51<kozek>cc1: Invalid option
11:51<kozek>what is cc1?
11:52<gravity>No idea, that's a new one
11:52<kozek>so mb i should try an older kernel
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11:53<kozek>tnx for tryin help anyway
11:53<kozek>bb
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12:38<bEAR->?? debian
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12:38<Myon>dpkg: tell bEAR- about ask
12:38<pabligeno>hi
12:38<pabligeno>i need help
12:38<pabligeno>whit dyunamips
12:38<pabligeno>dynamips
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12:39<pabligeno>hello?
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12:40<azeem>pabligeno: try to be more specific
12:40<azeem>!ask
12:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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12:40<azeem>quick: please turn off public away
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12:55<shze>i'm trying to compile otcl, but configure doesnt find tcl. how to make this work?
12:56<angryGhost>shze: start dselect as root and look for tcl headers
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12:56<Nemoder>probably need tcl*-dev
12:56<shze>the tcl, tk, and dev packages are installed already
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12:57<Eulex>shze, look in the config.log for exactly what it's looking for and not finding, look up in what package it is in.
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12:59<Nemoder>perhaps it's a version mismatch, tcl in lenny is 8.5, otcl readme says it works with 7.5
12:59<shze>Eulex: last test in config.log is checking for Tcl http.tcl library, which couldnt be found, but it is installed
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13:00<shze>Nemoder: can i get tcl 7.5 somewhere?
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13:01<tzafrir>tcl 7.5? 8.5 maybe?
13:02<Eulex>shze, are you sure?
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13:02<shze>Eulex: the otcl webpage says it works with tcl 7.5, newer versions are not mentioned
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13:03<Eulex>shze, tcl 7.5 is not in debian. and it's ancient. if you really mean 7.5 and not 8.5.
13:05<shze>Eulex: yes, the website says 7.5, and not 8.5
13:05<Nemoder>looks like otcl is still being worked on, perhaps the site never updated it's readme
13:05<Eulex>shze, you need to get yourself tcl 7.5 in some way then.
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13:07<Eulex>shze, if you're sure that it won't work with a newer tcl. you could always try changing in what directories it's looking for stuff, so that it might find stuff from newer versions of tcl.
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13:08<shze>Eulex: no, i'm not sure that it wont work with newer versions.
13:08<shze>Eulex: where do i have to changes this? in the configure script?
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13:10<Eulex>shze, perhaps. I don't really know how tcl works.
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13:13<shze>Eulex: if i use --with-tcl=<path>, which is the right one?
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13:13<Eulex>shze, I don't know. locate http.tcl on your system, try with the path it is in? (minus one or more subdirectories)
13:14<shze>Eulex: I did, its in /usr/share/tcltk/tcl8.4/, but this directory doesnt work...
13:15<Eulex>I'm quite sure that your directory is working. it might be that compiling otcl still doesn't work if you give it as argument, though.
13:16<shze>Eulex: yes, sure, compiling otcl doesnt work, but results in a different error
13:17<fxiny>i want to use deboostrap to load a local dpkg-scanpackaged dir to build a vserver so as not to download from the rep like an idiot: the line -d etch -m file:///PATH_TO_LOCAL_MIRROR/debian does not work . yes is from tfm :)
13:17<Eulex>shze, so you managed to make it run for a little while more? what's this new error?
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13:19<shze>Eulex: configure couldnt find tcl.h, tclInt.h, and libtcl8.4, but it continues and returns: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically a few lines later
13:19<fxiny>i know the guys at debian-administration.org are using debmirror and they call: -d etch -m http://<ip>/debian
13:21<Eulex>shze, appears that tcl.h is in /usr/include/tcl8.4. might be that you need to specify that somewhere. or that this is what --with-tcl is supposed to be.
13:21<fxiny>the usual sources.list line : deb file:/path/dir/ ./ , does not work as well
13:23<shze>Eulex: right, but if i set --with-tcl to something else than /usr/share/tcltk/tcl8.4/, configure doesnt find http.tcl
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13:24<shze>Eulex: I compiled tcl8.4 manually in a subdir of my home and used this for --with-tcl, and it worked
13:24<Eulex>shze, ok. might be that you need to set some other path then to /usr/include/tcl8.4
13:24<Eulex>shze, hmm, ok
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13:25<shze>Eulex: but how to set up --with-tcl to use the debian packages?
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13:25<floku>shze: maybe you need a few strategically placed symlinks...
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13:26<Eulex>shze, no idea
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13:26<shze>Eulex: thanks so far
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13:26<shze>floku: where to set the symlinks?
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13:27<floku>shze: in the one directory that you specify for --with-tcl, pointing to all the missing files
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13:29<shze>floku: ok, whats the best place for that? the dir I want to install otcl in?
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13:30<floku>shze: I would try to figure out which directory contains most of the files that you need
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13:30<floku>shze: then I would use this directory as my --with-tcl=...
13:30<floku>shze: for all the missing files I would generate a symlink in the --with-tcl directory
13:31<floku>shze: (please note: I am guessing here; no clue if this works and how many symlinks you would need)
13:33<floku>shze: It seems to me that your problem is the files being spread over more directories, but --with-tcl only lets you specify one
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13:33<shze>floku: right, but i dont know how to tell configure to use more than one dir
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13:34<floku>shze: that's why I propose to put symlinks in that one directory, pointing to all the files that are needed from other directories
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13:35<shze>floku: yes, i'm trying that
13:35<simonrvn>sounds like this app's build process is horrbily broken
13:36<simonrvn>horribly*
13:37<floku>simonrvn: I agree; we don't know if it works with this version of tcl at all, we are sort of feeling our way along...
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13:39<simonrvn>good luck
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13:57<solanaceo>hi
13:57<solanaceo>anybody there up to a debian chat?
13:57<Markjuh>?
13:58<solanaceo>i am new to debian, and wouldlike to know more. but right now i just have irc. not http navigation..
13:58<solanaceo>just want somebody to talk with about debian 's inner stuff
13:58<Markjuh>maybe if you define "inner stuff" ;)
13:58<solanaceo>err...admin, maintenance stuff
13:59<solanaceo>for example...
13:59<solanaceo>when i install a package, let me say...
13:59<solanaceo>Gparted..
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13:59<solanaceo>it pulls also more packages as dependencies
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14:00<Markjuh>true
14:00<solanaceo>when i make apt-get dist-upgrade, does all the gparted pulled dependencies get upgraded also? or just what the new gparted version needs?
14:00<Eulex>a dist-upgrade upgrades all packages.
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14:01<Eulex>... that have updates available
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14:02<solanaceo>ok. so.. a dist upgrade upgrades every single file installed.
14:02<solanaceo>now.. if i just want o upgrade a package, would it be "apt-get upgrade package" right??
14:02<solanaceo>well.. thats my doubt..
14:02<Eulex>unintuitively, it would be 'apt-get install package'
14:03<solanaceo>ohh..
14:03<solanaceo>now... the Synaptic "Mark all upgrades" would be an dist-upgrade?
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14:05<solanaceo>also.. in the Synaptic Status packge listing... i see one that says "Not Installed (residual config)" what does that "residual config" means?
14:05<Eulex>solanaceo, I believe so
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14:05<Eulex>solanaceo, that you've got configuration files for that package still installed. debian doesn't remove them by default, in case you want to keep them.
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14:06<solanaceo>ohh.. i see.. so maybe they are as results of some "apt-get autoremove"'s???
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14:06<solanaceo>that didn't purge the config files?
14:07<Eulex>any remove where you don't tell debian to purge the packages doesn't remove the config files.
14:07<lumat>hi, I get dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.19-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
14:07<lumat> unable to stat `./usr/sbin/rmt-tar' (which I was about to install): Input/output error
14:07<lumat>guess this would be severe ... but no report yet?
14:08<Eulex>lumat, check so your file system is healthy.
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14:08<lumat>Eulex, this was on of my first thoughts
14:08<lumat>df -h did not unveil anything strange .. what else may I check?
14:09<Eulex>you should fsck the partition.
14:09<lumat>*ouch*
14:09<lumat>ok .. .will do so ...
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14:09<solanaceo>uhm..i also have that doubt...when i have a non-right shutdown, after the first boot it says "Filesystem NOT clean", then after the second boot is says that is Clean, so.. when did it clean it?
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14:10<Eulex>solanaceo, right after it said that it was not clean.
14:10<reflect>anyone know how to fix horrible fps in games?
14:10<reflect>I get great fps in windows, but on debian in open arena my fps is horrible
14:11<Markjuh>might depend on settings of graphics card
14:11<Eulex>reflect, do you have 3d acceleration?
14:11<solanaceo>Eulex, many thanks dude, also thank you Markjuh
14:11<reflect>yes
14:12<reflect>i got a geforce 5200 fx
14:12<reflect>its almost like its conflicting when i use it in debian
14:12<Eulex>reflect, glxinfo|grep direct
14:12<reflect>its really choppy
14:12<solanaceo>reflect, propietary drivers or xorg's ?
14:13<reflect>addai:/home/vortex# glxinfo|grep direct
14:13<reflect>bash: glxinfo: command not found
14:13<reflect>addai:/home/vortex#
14:13<reflect>addai:/home/vortex# apt-get glxinfo
14:13<reflect>E: Invalid operation glxinfo
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14:13<reflect>Building dependency tree... Done
14:13<reflect>E: Couldn't find package glxinfo
14:13<reflect>oops, sorry
14:13<Eulex>!tell reflect about search
14:14<floku>reflect: install "mesa-utils"
14:14<reflect>how do i tell the difference? i'm new to debian
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14:14<reflect>installing now, i appreciate the help..
14:14<reflect>i suck with debian so far
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14:15<reflect>i'm so used to slack 7.0 that was the last version of linux i ran
14:15<reflect>;p
14:15<Eulex>reflect, we all do in the beginning.
14:15<reflect>i do love this apt-get tho
14:16<Markjuh>I've been using Debian for about 8 years now... and only a couple of weeks ago I figured out how to optimize my graphics stuff :P
14:16<reflect>and atleast ppl in debian arent douches like slackware
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14:16<simon_>heads.org
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14:16<reflect>slackware you ask a simple question and get called out
14:16<reflect>for being a moron
14:16<floku>reflect: this document is a good start: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/
14:16<reflect>thanks floku
14:17<simon_>hi all - anyone able to help diagnose a printing problem. running cups on lenny - was printing fine earlier but had a child induced printer failure (dont ask) printer is working fine, tested it on another machine, but on this machine it wont print. jobs go into cups then go to stopped
14:17<simon_>I've tried both a reboot and a purge then reinstall of cups and no luck
14:18<reflect>oh, btw, is there anyone here
14:18<reflect>that can possibly help me with my sound config?
14:18<reflect>i have to setup my soundcard everytime i reboot
14:18<reflect>is there anyway around that?
14:19<shze>floku: otcl configure works now. i had to add the right dirs to its internal list of possible dirs
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14:19<Eulex>reflect, alsaconf should be saving your sound card settings.
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14:19<shze>floku, Eulex: thanks for helping
14:19<reflect>I have to alsaconf everytime i reboot Eulex
14:19<reflect>otherwise my sound only works for system sounds
14:20<floku>shze: Ah, OK,so its configure system is not completely stupid.
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14:20<Eulex>reflect, only works for system sounds in gnome? disable esd.
14:20<reflect>yes
14:21<reflect>how do I do that?
14:21<Eulex>there should be some way to disable in the settings in gnome
14:21<reflect>Eulex as I said, I'm a newbie to debian, so I dont know how to do that, I had my sound working fine in slackware
14:21<shze>floku: yes, its just that some parts of tcl are not in /usr/include/tcl..., but in /usr/share/tcltk/tcl...
14:22<reflect>it was just people in #slackware dont seem to want to help a newbie
14:22<Eulex>reflect, it's supposed to be doable through the gui... I don't use gnome, though.
14:22<Eulex>reflect, you could always uninstall it, but that would be kinda overkill
14:23<reflect>I dont want to uninstall I got all my gdesklets and so forth setup the way i like
14:23<Markjuh>let me see in which menu it is
14:23<reflect>it has to be something simple
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14:23<Eulex>uninstall just that package.
14:23<Eulex>I mean.
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14:24<reflect>which package?
14:24<Eulex>esound
14:24<Markjuh>System -> Preferences -> Sound
14:24<Markjuh>then on the "Sounds" tab
14:24<reflect>isnt there anyway i can just make debian to go off the sounds that work
14:25<Markjuh>it's the first option
14:25<reflect>after i alsaconf?
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14:25<Markjuh>mine had ESD disabled by default
14:25<reflect>may sound stupid i'm just asking
14:25<reflect>because my sound works fine if i do alsaconf
14:26<floku>reflect: the sound works after alsaconf because alsaconf kills the esound daemon by unloading all sound modules
14:26<reflect>and reconfigure the soundcard
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14:26<floku>reflect: you just need to tell esound to play nice with other processes that want to use the soundcard
14:26<reflect>floku, then whats the best bet to get openarena and my sound to work together
14:27<floku>reflect: or disable ESD, follow Markjuh's advice
14:27<reflect>thats the only game i play besides quake1
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14:27<floku>reflect: maybe openarena can be configured to play sound via ESD; if not, see Markjuh's advice
14:28<reflect>anyone that fixes this problem i'll give them a server
14:28<reflect>:P
14:28<reflect>any game you wish
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14:28<Markjuh>lol
14:28<Markjuh>try to disable ESD (if it is enabled)
14:28<reflect>how do I do that?
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14:29<Markjuh>System -> Preferences -> Sound; then on the "Sounds" tab it's the first option
14:29<Markjuh>the option actually says "Enable"
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14:29<Markjuh>but it could be on by default
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14:30<reflect>where is system under??
14:30<ndowens>hey all
14:30<kamaraju>ndowens: hi
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14:31<ndowens>how are ya doin
14:31<dpkg>ndowens: peachy
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14:31<Markjuh>reflect: isn't it in the gnome menu by default?
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14:33<kamaraju>How can I find out the list of all the irc channels on this server?
14:33<kamaraju>like #debian, #debian-devel, #debian-kde etc., Is such a list maintained somewhere?
14:34<Markjuh>if you are lucky "/list" works
14:35<ndowens>kamaraju: looks like "/list" is ur only hope, the irc chan doesnt seem to list them on the site
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14:35<kamaraju>Thanks ndowens, Markjuh
14:36<ndowens>wc
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14:45<simon_>anyone know where the printer device lives in /dev/ from a cups printer on lenny?
14:45<simon_>can't seem to see a /dev/lpX type device...
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14:47<floku>simon_: is the printer connected to the parallel port?
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14:47<simon_>floku: good point - find just found it in /dev/usb
14:48<simon_>well thats one thing found - it prints.... but can't get cups to print
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14:49<floku>simon_: run "/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb" from the command line; does it list the printer?
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14:52<ra9ftm_home>Hi all. How to turn off roaming profiles in samba PDC ?
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14:57<simon_>floku: no output from that command
14:59<simon_>the command thats working fine is: foomatic-rip -P Stylus-Color-740 -v /home/simon/output.ps > /dev/usb/lp0
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15:00<floku>simon_: then you could try using "usb:/dev/usb/lp0" as the DeviceURI for CUPS
15:01<simon_>instead of DeviceURI usb://EPSON/Stylus%20COLOR%20740 from printers.conf?
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15:02<floku>simon_: yes, AFAIK the usb://vendor/model URI will not work if the backend does not list the pronter like that
15:02<floku>printer*
15:02<simon_>hmmm k - the odd thing is that until the printer had a failure it was working fine
15:03<simon_>(the failure was my 4 year old son grabbing the head to see why it was moving)
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15:04<floku>simon_: excellent, scientific curiosity at an early age ;)
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15:05<simon_>oh yes!
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15:21<simon_>floku: still no joy printing from cups
15:21<simon_>though I'm not gettig output from /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
15:21<simon_>direct usb://EPSON/Stylus%20COLOR%20740 "EPSON Stylus COLOR 740" "EPSON Stylus COLOR 740 USB #1" "MFG:EPSON;CMD:ESCPL2,BDC,D4;MDL:Stylus COLOR 740;CLS:PRINTER;"
15:21<simon_>so I put the old setting back...
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15:22<floku>simon_: the old setting might work now
15:23<floku>simon_: if not, set CUPS to "debug", restart it, try to print again and check the error log
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15:27<simon_>can you look in flood for asecond floku
15:28<simon_>hmmmm nm I can't get in
15:28<simon_>is pm ok?
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15:31<mindstorms>اه
15:31<mindstorms>hi
15:31<mindstorms>2 all
15:32<floku>simon_: It looks like the USB backend is OK, but there seems to be a problem with your ghostscript
15:33<chealer>heh, first time I see IRC bidi
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15:34<floku>simon_: which printer driver are you using?
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15:35<simon_>floku: stcolor
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15:37<floku>simon_: hmm, that is the recommended one. you could try one of the other two (gutenprint, stc740ih)
15:38<floku>simon_: just add another printer in the CUPS setup to try
15:38<mildner>Hello I need help mounting my harddisk
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15:39<mildner>in fstab I added that line: /dev/sda1 /home/mildner/HD500 ext3 rw,user, auto 0 2
15:41<simon_>floku: same problem with those
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15:42<simon_>I get the feeling its not actually the printer or the driver - but one of the processes inbetween
15:42<simon_>possibly a corrupted temp file or something left from when it had the crash
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15:45<floku>simon_: can you print the CUPS testpage?
15:46<simon_>thats what I've been trying to print
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15:47<floku>simon_: OK, uh-oh...
15:47<simon_>yeah
15:47<simon_>I can print - but by sending it direct to the device out of the rendorer
15:47<simon_>so it has to be one of the inbetween bits....
15:47<floku>simon_: then maybe the test page is broken; try to print some other document
15:48<simon_>hmmm good point
15:48<simon_>*bangs head against wall repeatedlu*
15:48<simon_>yup test page is broken
15:49<mildner>any help in mounting permanently a HD with fstab?
15:49<floku>simon_: hehe, I had that once; took me ages to figure out...
15:49<simon_>yeah - right bug report time....
15:49<simon_>should have tried something else soon :) never make assumptions that something is working ok
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15:52<floku>mildner: just use "defaults" for the options and you should be fine
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15:53<floku>mildner: I am not sure how combining "user" and "auto" will work
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15:58<mildner>floku: thank you
15:59<selmoatse>I have a question regarding apt-get and /etc/apt/sources.list. I am trying to install the precompiled Mactel-patched kernel available at "http://marcin.owsiany.pl/mactel.en.html". Per that page I added the line "deb http://people.debian.org/~porridge/kernel-mactel etch kernels" to "/etc/apt/sources.list". However, after running "apt-get update", I get the following error:Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~porridge/kerne
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16:06<mildner>floku: I can see now the HD but not access
16:06<petemc>chown the mount point
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16:13<sigp239>Hi should I do apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade?
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16:14<sigp239>sorry my GDM crashed
16:14<sigp239>Should I use apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade? Thanks.
16:15<StCyr>I've read that aptitude is now the "official way" from Etch on
16:15<Nemoder>either will work, aptitude is a front end for apt-get
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16:18<sigp239>The dialogue box in the guid updater program (don't know the name) says to use apt-get dist-upgrade to resolve a packaging issue...
16:18<sigp239>So I guess that's a bug
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16:26<mildner>please I need some help with my fstab
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16:27<mildner>like to mount the HD /dev/sda1 what has to be added after?
16:28<avu>"man 5 fstab" tells you
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16:29<floku>mildner: you said before that it was already mounted; if you cannot access the files then that is an ownership/permissions problem
16:31<mildner>floku: I changed as you said to defaults than I so the lost and found folder but no access and by the way its full
16:31<mildner>so--saw
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16:32<andrej>i was wondering if there is an easy way to install fuse-2.7.1 to debian kde 2.6.18-5-686 or is necessary to do that stuff whit the kernel ?
16:32<andrej>=)
16:32<floku>mildner: lost+found is for root only; that would be normal
16:32<mildner>floku: but nothing else
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16:33<floku>mildner: If the drive is an empty ext3 volume then lost and found is the only thing you'll see
16:33<mildner>floku: its not empty its all my stuff on it
16:34<floku>mildner: if you become root, can you see and access the rest of the files?
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16:35<mildner>floku: no
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16:35<floku>mildner: then I need to see the output of "mount"
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16:35<floku>tell mildner about paster
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16:36<lumat>him I'm back
16:36<lumat>Eulex, thank you, fsck did it!
16:36<lumat>good night!
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16:37<mildner>floku: there are 9 lines can I paste it here?
16:37<floku>!paster
16:37<dpkg>paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site.
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16:39<mildner>floku: ;-) I copied it there but where does it go to
16:40<floku>mildner: If you press send you will get an URL that you can post here
16:40<mildner>floku: http://paste.debian.net/41495
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16:42<floku>mildner: /dev/sda1 is not mounted, so something went wrong
16:42<mildner>here ist the line in fstab: /dev/sda1 /home/mildner/HD500, ext3, defaults, 0, 2
16:43<floku>mildner: what do you get from "fdisk -l /dev/sda" (as root)? Does /home/mildner/HD500 exist?
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16:44<mildner>floku: http://paste.debian.net/41496
16:45<floku>mildner: fdisk output is OK
16:45<mildner>yes it exists
16:45<floku>mildner: I think you have to replace the commas by TABs in your fstab entry
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16:46<floku>mildner: then run as root "mount -a" to test
16:46<mildner>floku: do I have to reboot all the time after changing fstab?
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16:46<floku>mildner: no, "mount -a" should be enough
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16:47<mildner>floku: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
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16:49<floku>mildner: depending on your editor you might have to press ENTER at the end of the last line before saving
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16:50<mildner>floku: now I see the lost+found again
16:52<floku>mildnmildner: do you see /dev/sda1 now listed in the output of "mount"
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16:52<mildner>floku: I see lost+found but nothing else
16:53<floku>mildner: please paste the output of "mount" again
16:53<mildner>floku: yes I see it in th output mount
16:54<floku>mildner: what do you get for "ls -ld /home/mildner/HD500"?
16:54<mildner>floku: http://paste.debian.net/41497
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16:54<floku>mildner: mount output looks good now
16:55<mildner>floku: thats the output of ls.....:drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-10-20 23:54 /home/mildner/HD500
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16:56<floku>mildner: OK it is owned by root, you can change that later. Now what do you see with "ls -l /home/mildner/HD500"? (this time no "d" option)
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16:58<mildner>floku; http://paste.debian.net/41498
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17:01<lovelyevilness>tersting
17:01<floku>mildner: Hmm, that is strange. When and how did you last use this drive (Oct. 7th?)
17:01<lovelyevilness>wow it does work WHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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17:02<mildner>floku: I have 2 HD and installed today completly new debian
17:02<lovelyevilness>hello! everyone! i wont upset u anymore sorry im just new at this program... byebye PD: well maybe sometimes ill be back lol
17:02<mildner>on the first one
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17:04<floku>mildner: I assume the one you are trying to mount now is your old system?
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17:06<mildner>floku: not really old because its formated with exactly the same as before with ext3 and also with the same debian
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17:06<floku>mildner: Ah, so it was you old /home partition then?
17:06<floku>your*
17:07<mildner>floku: no I think no
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17:09<floku>mildner: How did you put your files (which seem to be missing now) on this disk?
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17:11<mildner>floku: from the 1. HD I copied everything to the second and now I installed debian again on the first, because it always told me the disk is full
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17:12<floku>mildner: how exactly did you "copy everything"?
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17:13<mildner>floku: i was using these 2 HD's for some time and debian was always on the 1.
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17:14<floku>mildner: Which command did you use to copy and how were the two HDs mounted at that moment?
17:14<mildner>floku: I mounted it with the grafically tool on debian
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17:16<mildner>floku: I am not shure but I guess at first I tried to access with the grafically tool and later I found the way with fstab
17:16<floku>mildner: and the copying, did you use the command line or nautilus, konqueror etc.?
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17:17<mildner>floku: I mounted it with fstab and copied everthing....copiing was done by konquerer
17:17<floku>mildner: let's try something else: run "df -h" and paste the output
17:18<mildner>floku: http://paste.debian.net/41500
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17:20<floku>mildner: I am afraid it looks like the drive is empty: only 200MB used, which is probably the filesystem data.
17:20<mildner>floku: don't tell me that
17:20<floku>mildner: how much data should be on that drive?
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17:21<mildner>floku: I guess 60 MB
17:21<zedobodi>ola
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17:22<mildner>floku: the diskmanager tells me 429 GiB free
17:22<floku>mildner: only 60MB? then maybe it is still there, in lost+found?
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17:25<mildner>floku: just yesterday I mounted it like am doing it now only I used a different folder
17:26<floku>mildner: Maybe you should umount it and run "fsck" on it.
17:26<floku>to check for filesystem damage
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17:27<mildner>floku: never used fsck manuely
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17:27<floku>mildner: does the graphical tool have an option to check the drive?
17:28<Charlichaplin>hi
17:28<FredF>aie ....caramba
17:28<mildner>floku: not yet found
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17:29<ra9ftm_home>!paste
17:29<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
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17:29<mildner>floku: lost+found is something like the trashcase isnt it?
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17:30<mildner>trashfolder
17:30<floku>mildner: yes, files can end up there if soemthing has to be repaired after a filesystem problem
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17:31<mildner>floku: but in reality nothe changed on that HD
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17:31<mildner>nothe---->nothing
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17:33<floku>mildner: I really don't know where the files are. Check for hidden files or directories with "ls -a /home/mildner/HD500"
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17:34<FredF>?
17:34<mildner>floku: . .. lost+found .Trash-root
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17:34<floku>mildner: do "ls -a .Trash-root"
17:35<mildner>floku: ls: .Trash-root: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
17:36<floku>mildner: ls -a /home/mildner/HD500/.Trash-root
17:36<mildner>floku: Datei oder verzeichnis nicht gefunden File or folder not found :-(
17:36<ra9ftm_home>Hello all. Can anyone help me with postfix setup? I need to add LDAP alias... Here is my config and command outputs: http://paste.debian.net/41502
17:36<mildner>floku: . .. Namenloser Ordner
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17:37<floku>mildner: ls -a "/home/mildner/HD500/.Trash-root/Namenloser Ordner"
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17:40<mildner>floku: just 3 dots
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17:40<floku>mildner: that means it's empty...
17:41<floku>mildner: try "ls -la /home/mildner/HD500/lost+found" (as root)
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17:41<mildner>floku: the data was stored in just one folder and all the other folders came after the first folder named "daten"
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17:42<mildner>Floku: "Daten" ......but why does the manager tell me som,ething about 50 MB
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17:44<floku>mildner: try "find /home/mildner/HD500" (as root); this should list all the files it can find in that directory (+ subfolders)
17:45<mildner>floku: http://paste.debian.net/41504
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17:46<floku>mildner: was the last paste the output for lost+found?
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17:47<mildner>floku: the last paste was for --> ls -la /home/mildner/HD500/lost+found
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17:47<lupine_85>fsck the drive?
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17:48<floku>mildner: there is a directory with an empty name in your lost+found.
17:48<floku>as lupine_85 just said, it needs to be fsck'd
17:49<mildner>floku: why do I have no rights to write on the HD?
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17:50<floku>mildner: maybe it is now read-only because an error was detected? Do no write on it until you know what is going on
17:51<floku>mildner: unmount it and run "fsck /dev/sda1" as root
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17:51<lupine_85>of course, there's no guarantee that'll fix it
17:51<mildner>floku: ok
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17:52<lupine_85>what filesystem is it?
17:52<lupine_85>(Ext2 vs. ext3, I guess)
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17:56<mildner>floku: /dev/sda1: clean, 13/60293120 files, 1942780/120585890 blocks (Prüfung nach 2 Einhängevorgängen)
17:57<mildner>floku: it is midnight here I thank you very much but I have to work tomorrow
17:58<mildner>floku: I will be back next week to figure out what happend to my data
17:58<mildner>Good night
17:58<floku>mildner: I have to leave, too; maybe the find command that I posted earlier will help tomorrow.
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18:34<GAMMAX>hey does anyone know of an RSS feeder for Ktorrent?
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18:36<GAMMAX>hey does anyone know of an RSS feeder for Ktorrent?
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19:08<solanaceo>guys...
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19:09<solanaceo>does anyone using lenny has encountered the nautilus's file 'Properties' window bug?
19:10<dli>!anyone
19:10<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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19:11<solanaceo>i really dont get yet the debian irc..
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19:16<uphuck>hey
19:16<shadow33>i try every option for configuration the kernel ... make config, menuconfig, gconfig, xconfig. all option are going well only xconfig not. i am using debian etch. is make xconfig not going with gnome? i installed QT pakages
19:17<uphuck>why not just go on with menuconfig?
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19:17<uphuck>it just does the job
19:17<shadow33>i prepare für LPIC level 2 and have to learn ;)
19:18<dli>!tell shadow33 about xconfig
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19:18<uphuck>:)
19:20<shadow33>i always get the following error ...
19:20<shadow33>CHECK qt Unable to find the QT installation ...
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19:23<uphuck>mine worked just now
19:23<uphuck>but i am on kde
19:23<shadow33>qt4-dev-tools, qt4-qtconfig, qt4-designer is installed. is there a libary missing or is xconfig only working with KDE?
19:24<shadow33>this is what i am thinking about :D
19:24<uphuck>there are a lot of packages can be releated to that step
19:24<uphuck>it should work on gnomw also
19:24<uphuck>gnome*
19:24<shadow33>in every book and every website only QT is written .D
19:25<shadow33>they know why
19:25<uphuck>and sometimes only an absence of a link can be the reason
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19:27<uphuck>u may need qt3 developmen packages
19:27<shadow33>with gconfig it was only a package ;) libglade2-dev and then plöp running
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19:28<shadow33>hmm installed qt4 - is that the reason?
19:28<uphuck>qqt-devel-tools qt-devel
19:29<uphuck>qt3 i mean
19:31<uphuck>libqt3-dev
19:31<uphuck>do not remove it
19:31<uphuck>install these
19:31<shadow33>i installed qt3-dev-tools and that was not the solution
19:31<shadow33>i will try moment
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19:35<shadow33>the error message changed :D
19:35<shadow33>after installing libqt3-mt-dev and some other dependencies
19:36<shadow33>now he can't find g++
19:37<uphuck>install g++ and thats it
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19:37<shadow33>which one of the c++ compiler i should install? the newest ?
19:38<uphuck>what is the kernel version that u will compile?
19:38<uphuck>2.6.23?
19:38<uphuck>install the newest compiler
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19:39<uphuck>and make sure that the link in /usr/in/ points the newest ones
19:39<uphuck>c++ cpp gcc g++ points the newer of them
19:40<uphuck>there may be olders ones also installed
19:40<shadow33>2.6.5 i think - only a test
19:40<uphuck>get the latest
19:40<uphuck>2.6.23 is good
19:40<shadow33>ok thanks :)
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19:41<uphuck>bye everyone
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19:43<shadow33>after creating a softlink is going - thank my hero :D
19:43<shadow33>i will to bed now - 4 hours sleep only ;) - bye bye
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20:47<janux-xmind>hi guys!
20:47<janux-xmind>how can i launch .bin file on my debian
20:49<bzed>which kind of file is it?
20:49<bzed>some isntaller?
20:50<bzed>where did you get it from?
20:50<bzed>or what says
20:50<bzed>file filename.bin
20:50<janux-xmind>sun java wireless toolkit installer
20:50<bzed>try bash yourfilename.bin
20:50<bzed>they usually have shars
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20:58<janux-xmind>does someone know how to install sun.java.wireless.toolkit
20:58<janux-xmind>?
20:59<bzed>02:50:35 < bzed> try bash yourfilename.bin
20:59<bzed>janux-xmind: ^
20:59<janux-xmind>...sun.java.wireless.toolkit
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21:00<janux-xmind>for j2me
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21:00<bzed>janux-xmind: didn't you jsut say you had a .bin file?
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21:01<janux-xmind>yup!
21:01<janux-xmind>it is the sun.java.wireless.toolkit
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21:02<janux-xmind>So...!
21:02<janux-xmind>bzed
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21:15<janux-xmind>what is the path of jre on my debian
21:17<janux-xmind>java runtime environment?
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21:23<bzed>did you install sun's java from non-free?
21:23<bzed>it not, do so.
21:23<bzed>!tell janux-xmind about non-free
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21:24<ZZT32>Why does the /proc/net/dev counter reset every now and then? O_O
21:24<janux-xmind>sun-java5-jre from debian package
21:24<rjent>greetings, I am running sid and why does update-initramfs respond with /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-1-686 does not exist. Cannot update. when I believe I have removed this version?
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21:27<janux-xmind>i want to install the wireless toolkit form sun on my debian
21:29<bzed>janux-xmind: there's no need to repeat that every time
21:29<bzed>janux-xmind: so use dpkg -L sun-java5-jre to find out what the path is.
21:30<janux-xmind>ok
21:30<janux-xmind>thanks
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21:30<bzed>ZZT32: it is limited to a number of bits, it resetz of it's full ;)
21:30<bzed>ZZT32: use iptables for better counters
21:30<ZZT32>Got some docs/tutorials for me? :P
21:32<bzed>iptables -A INPUT -i eth0
21:32<bzed>iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0
21:32<bzed>iptables -nvL
21:33<bzed>in case you have no other firewall rules...
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21:33<ZZT32>I don't think I do. Fresh Etch install.
21:33<bzed>if you want to monitor it, look at - for example - munin. they ship a script which uses this way for example
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21:34<ZZT32>neat. Thanks, bzed :>
21:34<bzed>you're welcome
21:35<Shu>has anyone ever seen the error message "GRUB Error 21" ?
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21:36<ZZT32>Shu, that happened to me when I deleted GRUB.
21:36<Shu>oh
21:36<Shu>well i just completely whiped the hard drive an isntalled debian
21:36<Shu>and installed GRUB with it
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21:36<Shu>so i dont think i delted GRUB...
21:37<bzed>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978 is an interesting thread about that error
21:38<Shu>the thing is, i only have one hard drive
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21:38<Shu>apparently this person is using some RAID device
21:40<bzed>have to leave you alone with this, my bed is calling since hours
21:40<bzed>n8
21:41<Shu>ah
21:41<Shu>ill try to solve it myself
21:41<Shu>thanks anyways
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21:53<Shu>yay
21:53<Shu>problem solved
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22:06<lovelyevilness>!rules
22:06<dpkg>rules is, like, 1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 15 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient.
22:07<lovelyevilness>hello to every one ^^
22:07<lovelyevilness>!list
22:07<dpkg>one warez list being sent to lovelyevilness
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22:08<lovelyevilness>!list
22:08<dpkg>one warez list being sent to lovelyevilness
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22:10<lovelyevilness>"one warez list being sent to lovelyevilness"'?? is list wrong?
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22:11<JasonS>lovelyevilness: what makes you think a warez command is correct here?
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22:14<drakode_>NUEVA WEB SOBRE LINUX http://www.linux.melkor.cl/ veanla, esta realmente buena, manuales, FAQ's y muchas novedades
22:14<drakode_>NUEVA WEB SOBRE LINUX http://www.linux.melkor.cl/ veanla, esta realmente buena, manuales, FAQ's y muchas novedades
22:14<drakode_>NUEVA WEB SOBRE LINUX http://www.linux.melkor.cl/ veanla, esta realmente buena, manuales, FAQ's y muchas novedades
22:14<drakode_>NUEVA WEB SOBRE LINUX http://www.linux.melkor.cl/ veanla, esta realmente buena, manuales, FAQ's y muchas novedades
22:14<drakode_>NUEVA WEB SOBRE LINUX http://www.linux.melkor.cl/ veanla, esta realmente buena, manuales, FAQ's y muchas novedades
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22:45<lovelyevilness>byebye!
22:45<lovelyevilness>LINUX ROCKS!
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23:03<Paper>hi, is there a command to get the current datetime in a specific timezone?
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23:06<nowhere_man>Paper: date
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23:06<nowhere_man>it really translate the current date to another timezone
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23:18<gsimmons>Paper: You might also be interested in the 'tzwatch' package.
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23:20<kehed>anyone tried partimage with ntfs partition?
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23:24<gsimmons>kehed: Support for NTFS in experimential (see <http://www.partimage.org/Supported-Filesystems>). You'd might want to use ntfsclone instead.
23:24<gsimmons>s/in/is/
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23:27<user01>hmm what do you think of conary?
23:30<user01>i heard it is going to be replacing apt
23:32<user01>is it true or is it just a rumour?
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