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#debian IRC Logs for 2007-12-06

---Logopened Thu Dec 06 00:00:26 2007
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00:03<leftylink>hey guys... just installed debian...
00:04<leftylink>have a question, how "safe" is it to use lenny packages?
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00:10<gadis>hi
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00:38<samuel>nickname samuel_scs
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00:40<greenplastic>hello, is it okay, that my laptop uses like 70% memory for cache??
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00:42<greenplastic>now it's 80
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00:47<sam>greenplastic: it's normal; unused memory is lost memory, so your system uses whatever free memory you have for useful purposes such as disk cache
00:50<greenplastic>thank you, can i reduce it?
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01:23<katrin>hi
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01:26<tangyuan>hi
01:26<tangyuan>anybody/
01:27<tangyuan>who is from China
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01:27<mario>quit
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02:20<jochieng>hello people
02:20<jochieng>i need to compare source.list values, can someone send me his/her values, thanks
02:21<gsimmons_>!tell jochieng -about sources.list
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02:29<jochieng>!gsimmons_how do i manually get source lists for my country code
02:31<gsimmons_>!mirrors
02:31<dpkg>hmm... debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/
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02:33<WhyACow>my lost+found dir is currently 220GB, does anyone know of a way to figure out what all teh files are easily?
02:33<jochieng>gsimmons_ thanks let me check it out :-)
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02:38<BBoyDanny>hello every1 =)
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02:40<BBoyDanny>anyone knows how to unset an environment variable?
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02:44<tmg1|chthulhu>BBoyDanny: as in not set it to nothing but undo the change?
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02:46<BBoyDanny>heh
02:47<BBoyDanny>it was set by a program i installed
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02:47<BBoyDanny>even if i uninstall it, it doesn't unset that viariable
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03:03<attanasio>salve a tutti voi
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03:25<jayen>大家好
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03:30<sayang>leh nanya gak
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03:32<jayen>hi
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03:51<jochieng>hello someone has some apt-source list to install xorg? Kindly
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03:52<gsimmons>!install x
03:52<dpkg>to install x in etch or later "aptitude install xorg" you may also want to install a window manager or ask me about <install gnome> or <install kde>. if you are running sarge, ask me about <install xf4>, or to reconfigure your x server, ask me about <drxx>
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03:55<jochieng>thanks dpkg, will aptitude install kde-desktop also work for kde?
03:55<dpkg>sure thing, jochieng
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03:55<gsimmons>!tell jochieng -about install kde
03:57<jochieng>thanks, so its aptitude install xorg & aptitude install kde-desktop and thats it.
03:58<gsimmons>jochieng: You're incorrect on the second part. Read what dpkg told you.
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04:02<jochieng>is it aptitude install kde?
04:03<gsimmons>jochieng: That will install almost the full KDE.
04:05<jochieng>maybe i shld go for gnome instead
04:05<jochieng>with aptitude install gnome
04:06<kmap>jochieng: aptitude install kde-core or gnome-core
04:06<jochieng>thanks alot kmap
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04:08<kmap>jochieng: No problems.
04:09<jochieng>BEFORE i was getting this error >> "Package xserver-xorg has no installation candidate.."
04:09<jochieng>I wonder if it was cos of the source.list
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04:11<rame>Hi..
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04:12<rame>i want to the full set of compiz-fusion debianized sources..I searched but I couldnt find a proper set of all the packages...
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04:13<rame>Is there any srepo where I can download all the compiz-fusion pacakges
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04:20<m0RrE>can anyone suggest a program to limit bandwidth usage?
04:21<MrNaz>m0RrE yea, netnanny :P
04:21<MrNaz>or anything to block porn, really
04:21<m0RrE>hehe
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04:26<Maulkin>m0RrE: http://www.google.com/search?q=iptables+qos
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04:27<valdyn>m0RrE: to do what exactly?
04:27<MayskiyJuk>Hi can anybody help me with kernel modules
04:27<valdyn>!ping
04:27<dpkg>pong
04:28<valdyn>!tell MayskiyJuk -about ask
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04:29<m0RrE>well, iäve got a debian server to host files, share printers, apache... i want to be able to limit the total bandwidth usage on that box so it won't eat all my bandwidth :P
04:29<valdyn>m0RrE: look at the script in the wondershaper package
04:29<valdyn>m0RrE: it does a little more than that, but you should be ok with just adjusting the bandwidth max cap
04:29<MayskiyJuk>OK when booting my system kernel doesn't load some modules like ext3, nfs and so on. Manual insmod loads them. I added modules into /etc/modules file but no result
04:30<valdyn>m0RrE: ( if that box runs debian. =
04:30<m0RrE>valdyn: i'm just looking at it :P
04:30<m0RrE>yseh it does
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04:36<padski>like banner, but prints horizontally ?
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04:37<m0RrE>valdyn: it doesn't seem to have the ability to limit bandwidth.. :/
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04:38<m0RrE>if i got it right it's just a traffic shaper?
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04:43<DarK_MK>connect irc.zurna.net
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04:45<padski>ah! figlet
04:46<dude>how do i install flash, lenny amd64
04:46<dude>i googled its comin up with alod of shit
04:46<dude>its screwed
04:46<padski>dude, that is cool nick ;-)
04:47<dude>thanx
04:47<padski>!tell dude about flash
04:47<the-dude>am I cool too ;)
04:47<padski>the-dude, I'm sorry I didnt mean to miss you out :-)
04:48<padski>dude, do adobe do an amd64 version, or do you have to run the 32-bit version ?
04:48<padski>ah! it says on the page! d'oh!
04:49<dude>padski, i dont know, allz i know is it was easy and it worked.
04:49<padski>dude, result!
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04:50<dude>tell u soon, page just loaded
04:50<dude>browser is screwed
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04:52<padski>dude, well, at least it was easy ;-)
04:53<dude>padski the network is busy, so its takin ages for the page to load
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04:54<Jacob>hi
04:55<dude>padski, tell u later ;)
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04:55<padski>dude, later then
04:55<Jacob>When building an environment with pbuilder, would it be possible to start services such as apache and make them availble for the local network, or the internet?
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05:09<F1rs7l1n3>hora
05:09<F1rs7l1n3>koi e sazdatelq
05:09<F1rs7l1n3>na mrejata
05:09<F1rs7l1n3>?
05:09<F1rs7l1n3>developera
05:09<F1rs7l1n3>?
05:10<shortbus>i just did a fresh install of debian 4.0, and had a few questions about iptables
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05:10<sep>!bg
05:10<dpkg>Bulgarian users are invited to join #debian-bg @ irc.freenode.net (Vsichki bylgari sa pokaneni da se vkliuchat v #debian-bg @ irc.freenode.net)
05:10<shortbus>there's not /etc/init.d/iptables, and i don't see a config file anywhere
05:10<shortbus>where's the config file and startup scripts?
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05:12<sep>shortbus, write you own, there are info in the docs, or use one of the many frontends to iptables that are in debian, i prefer shoerwall myself
05:12<dli>shortbus, why do you need iptables? particularly?
05:13<shortbus>box is on public internet as a webserver, along w/a few other services
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05:13<shortbus>i stuck it in our company's colo, which is ok, but i'd rather not use company firewalls
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05:15<sep>shortbus, i think his point was that. dont run services you dont want open to the public. then you dont realy have a need for a firewall on the host.
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05:16<sep>altho i have iptables myself, but no rules as default. becouse i like the fail2ban package
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05:17<shortbus>true true, but i don't like having non-firewalled hosts w/ public ips. i was also thinking about putting samba on there, which i'd like to restrict access to a few subnets
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05:18<sep>well'' i'd never run such a service on a publicly exposed host.
05:19<shortbus>its just mp3's, read-only. agreed, probably not the best of ideas, but i figure w/ a firewall rescricting access to a just what i predefine, it should be fine
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05:23<sep>no. becouse your holes will be in whatever content you serve on apache
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05:23<sep>dont mix if you can avoid it.
05:30<_spOOn_>can anyone help me with a dvd playing issue
05:30<_spOOn_>?
05:30<_spOOn_>http://paste.lisp.org/display/51994
05:30<Jacob>When building an environment with pbuilder, would it be possible to start services such as apache and make them availble for the local network, or the internet?
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05:31<Jacob_nickInUse>Hi. When building an environment with pbuilder, would it be possible to start services such as apache and make them availble for the local network, or the internet?
05:31<padski>Jacob, I dunno, but maybe explain why you want to ?
05:31<Jacob>padski, why would someone use a pbuilder environment other then testing purposes? :)
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05:32<padski>Jacob, I thought it was primarily for building in
05:32<Jacob>yes, it's often used for, but imagine you rebuilding apache. How are you going to test it?
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05:33<padski>Jacob, so would it help you to go and try that with apache ?
05:33<valdyn>_spOOn_: your dvd drive is hdb?
05:33<_spOOn_>yup
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05:33<shortbus>sep: gotcha. your right, i should probalby make a second box, you don't want to cross zones. but this isn't anything even remotely production and/or important. just a personal webserver for personal/family crap, mp3 archive/streams. all in all, just kinda an easy access archive. btw, shorewall is perfect, thx
05:34<valdyn>_spOOn_: the dvd disk is broken
05:34<Jacob>I'm not at home right now. I'm trying to gather usefull information about this, since the manual page has nothing about this padski .
05:34<valdyn>_spOOn_: reinsert or clean or polish or whatever
05:34<padski>Jacob, ah!, now I understand your question :-)
05:34<_spOOn_>have done that, have also made sure dma is enabled on the drive (using hdparm)
05:35<padski>Jacob, I'll bet someone here knows the answer :-)
05:35<valdyn>_spOOn_: Read of scrambled sector without authentication -- (asc=0x6f, ascq=0x03)
05:35<valdyn>_spOOn_: not sure if that has a thing to do with css
05:35<valdyn>!dvdcss
05:35<valdyn>!libdvdcss
05:35<dpkg>rumour has it, libdvdcss is NOT in Debian - USA residents who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. For filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian and ask about <marillat> or <debian-unofficial>
05:35<Jacob>padski, sure, but the next class at the uni is about to start, so I hope someone takes the effort to tell me the secret. :-)
05:35<zobel>!marillat
05:35<dpkg>debian-multimedia is probably a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>.
05:35<zobel>!debian-unofficial
05:35<dpkg>i heard debian-unofficial is a repository of unofficial packages, not distributed within Debian due to licensing restrictions or political reasons. Installation instructions are at http://www.debian-unofficial.org/installation.html
05:36<gsimmons_>_spOOn_: It does looks like a content decryption problem, I'm able to reproduce that over here.
05:36<_spOOn_>lol, gotta love dpkg :)
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05:39<padski>Jacob, the answer appears to be that pbuilder can use different stuff like uml or fakechroot
05:40<Jacob>thank you, I'll look into it.
05:40<Jacob>Have a nice day
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05:41<sheldonh>what can i use to unpack initrd.img? unsquashfs?
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05:41<valdyn>sheldonh: mount -o loop -t cramfs /path/to/mountpoint maybe
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05:42<valdyn>sheldonh: or maybe you have to unzip that file first
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05:43<valdyn>sheldonh: oh nm, gunzip and cpio
05:43<Benneben|work>Hi all, can anyone advise me on how to upgrade the kernel of a boot installer?
05:44<valdyn>!custom d-i
05:44<dpkg>hmm... custom d-i is http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel, or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CD
05:44<valdyn>!kmuto
05:44<dpkg>For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
05:44<sheldonh>many thanks
05:45<sheldonh>i don't usually mung directly. i rather use make-kpkg. but in this case, it's a pxe installer for a range of linux distros, each with their own weird-ass little initial ramdisk
05:45<_spOOn_>gsimmons_, valdyn was libdvdcss prob
05:45<_spOOn_>thanks guys
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05:56<Benneben|work>Well, my problem is: the installer can't see my SATAII hard disks
05:56<Benneben|work>they use the Intel ICH8 controllers
05:57<Benneben|work>So, I'm brainstorming here: I have to upgrade the kernel of the installer, install debian and before rebooting upgrade the kernel of the installation?
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06:00<gsimmons_>Benneben|work: Try using the kmuto installer mentioned above. It supports both ICH8 and ICH9.
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06:04<valdyn>Benneben|work: you need a kernel that supports ahci and also to set your disk controller to ahci in the bios
06:04<dwj>hi
06:04<[gloom]>hi threre
06:04<dwj>hi
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06:06<dwj>uptime
06:06<Maulkin>!cn
06:06<dpkg>i guess cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
06:06<cnzzzzz>支持中文
06:07<[gloom]>I have a little problem with my linux laptop. Is says (seen on top, and KInfoCenter) that my total memory is 885Mb, while this laptop has 2gb. Under windows it says 2gb, so it's not a hw porblem. On the other side, I thikn that the problem comes from the graphic card. I's a gf8600MGT with 256MB and until1024Mb sharing main memory, so maybe is this what is hapening.
06:07<Maulkin>[gloom]: windows is possibly lying.
06:08<[gloom]>linux is counting 1gb of ram as video memory, but as I'm sure you know, in the new laptops with the new nvidias, this memory assignment is automatic, and cannot be changed in the BIOS
06:08<[gloom]>:D
06:08<[gloom]>i don't think so
06:08<Maulkin>It may well be adding the graphics card memory to the main memory
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06:08<petemc>[gloom]: are you still using the kernel you installed debian with?
06:08<[gloom]>nope
06:08<[gloom]>I compiled one
06:09<[gloom]>I'm going to boot with the image 2.6.22-686 that comes with debian to see if there's a difference
06:09<dwj>don't speak english
06:11<padski>!tell dwj about cn
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06:17<[gloom]>man, with the debian kernel it says that I have 2gb, and with mine only 885Mb. What can I done wrong?
06:17<petemc>compiled your own kernel
06:17<[gloom]>ahhahahaa
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06:18[~]sheldonh rages against intel
06:19<[gloom]>I just took the config from the debian image, and compiled it for Core2Duo, and disable some unuseful things for me like IDSN Subsystem, amateur radio supportt...
06:19<[gloom]>I never touch things I don't know!!! Have tou seen this problem before?
06:19<valdyn>[gloom]: you are running a kernel without highmem support.
06:20<[gloom]>that's right. but afaik, highmem is for >4gb, isn't it?
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06:20<valdyn>[gloom]: its for > 1G
06:20<[gloom]>aha. This might explain the things:D
06:20<[gloom]>thanks a lot. i'm going to recompile
06:21<valdyn>[gloom]: 1GB-885MB is partially what pci takes. the given 1G / 4G never are reach in reality
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06:22<[gloom]>yes I know. In fact, it says it has 512Mb video memory while it only has 256, so this diff is normal
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06:24<padski>does grep know about utf8 ?
06:25<valdyn>padski: it does not care
06:25<padski>I want yto grep for the byte 0xB7
06:26<[gloom]>valdyn: could you tell me the difference between a Flat memory model, and a Sparse Memory model? Near the hihg memory option, I have these two choices
06:27<padski>I've done it using grep -f, thanks valdyn
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06:30<Benneben|work>thx both, I'll try it when I'm at home
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06:30<valdyn>[gloom]: sparse mem is for memory hotplugging. dont use that on a standard pc..
06:31<valdyn>[gloom]: i dont know how exactly it works
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06:31<[gloom]>aha. thx again
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07:22<mihkel>hi
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07:23<mihkel>why aptitude wants to remove ~200mb of pagages when i try to purge compiz
07:23<mihkel>openoffice bug-buddy etc
07:23<mihkel>i'm using lenny
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07:30<mihkel>and i have another question too
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07:30<mihkel>can a user see what is in /root directory?
07:31<petemc>ls /root
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07:32<mihkel>shouldn't /root be hidden from regular users?
07:32<WhyACow_>my lost+found dir is currently 220GB, does anyone know of a way to figure out what all teh files are easily?
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07:33<[gloom]>so I think you have lost something, uh??ehehe
07:33<miksuh>WhyACow_: there must be something wrong in your HD or filesystem
07:34<WhyACow_>yeah its stuffed, im recovering atm
07:34<WhyACow_>but the funny thing is ive lost no files i dont think, just that (not sure of the technical term) the pointer to each file is stuffed
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07:41<evilmanu>hello
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07:48<diego>Hi, I'm trying to make flashplayer work in iceweasel in my core2duo. Someone here told me to use mspluginwrapper, I downloaded and installed it, but I don't know exactly how to use it. Can someone help me please?.
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07:53<gsimmons_>diego: Are you using the unofficial 'nspluginwrapper' package for Etch? Did you read the instructions at <http://www.dipconsultants.com/debian/>?
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08:03<[gloom]>in fstab, the line /dev/sdb1 /media/extusbdisk ntfs-3g silent,user,uid=MyUID,noauto 0 0 Gives me "Failed to use /dev/fuse Denied permission" when I plug my usb disk and kde tries to mount itk
08:04<[gloom]>I edited the /etc/group and added after the fuse group my login name, but it still don't work
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08:13<[gloom]>ok, solved
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08:26<diego>gsimmons_: Yes, I read the instructions, but in the there says I should do "mv install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer.xpt install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer.so /home/"user"/.mozilla/plugins/" but the file flashplayer.xpt doesn't exist, instead there is flashplayer-intaller wich returns an error "ERROR: Your architecture \'x86_64\', is not supported by the adobe flash installer"
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08:26<simonrvn>it isn't
08:26<diego>gsimmons_: sorry for the delay :-)
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08:35<Entheogen>guys when i do apt-get i get error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
08:35<Entheogen>it's really annoying, what should i do to fix this? :)
08:36<etanoox>someone know rpld???
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08:40<etanoox>good chan
08:40<etanoox>-_-
08:40<simonrvn>yeh ok, quit when you've asked a question ...
08:40[~]simonrvn really dislikes that
08:40<etanoox>simonrvn, do u speak with me?
08:40<JasonS>simonrvn: well they did wait a whole 2 mintues
08:41<simonrvn>etanoox: no, wasn't directed at you
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08:41<simonrvn>JasonS: oooh, 2 minutes, that's like an eternity :P
08:41<JasonS>heh
08:42<etanoox>simonrvn, JasonS do u know diskeless?
08:42<simonrvn>diskless what?
08:42<etanoox>i have an old pc
08:42<etanoox>with 800mb hdd
08:42<simonrvn>ltsp
08:42<etanoox>so i have 2 way
08:43<jelly>some other channels have a 'be patient' style message in the topic
08:43<etanoox>1) install minimal debian
08:43<etanoox>2) use as diskless station
08:43<etanoox>simonrvn, perfect
08:43<etanoox>but this machine doen't support PXE
08:43<etanoox>it support rpl
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08:43<etanoox>do u know?
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08:44<simonrvn>ltsp handles different kinds of booting...
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08:44<etanoox>yes, i know
08:44<jelly>etanoox: also, there's a PXE boot cd (or floppy) available on the intarwebs
08:45<etanoox>jelly, why i use cd or floppy when i can use network?
08:45<etanoox>i have one server dhcp and tftp
08:45<etanoox>and i would boot the machine from the server
08:45<etanoox>it's possible?
08:46<etanoox>with laptop that support PXE, all work fine
08:46<sep>etanoox, ibm or novel style rpl ?
08:46<etanoox>novel
08:46<sep>etanoox, pity imb is supported by rpld in debian
08:47<etanoox>novel sep
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08:47<sep>etanoox, this page http://www.huweb.hu/maques/rpl.htm claims it can work witrh novell style too
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08:48<etanoox>sep i read this web site
08:48<etanoox>i read all internet page on rpld
08:48<etanoox>but don't work
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08:49<sep>then i have no idea. i only buy pxe gear
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08:50<simonrvn>etanoox: they have a web site with plenty of docs. i've run an old mac powerpc on it
08:52<etanoox>guys, who try to explain me what's rpld?
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08:54<vigneswari>hello all
08:55<vigneswari>when compiling gnome-applets pkg it throws me this error
08:55<vigneswari>cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/': No such file or directory
08:55<vigneswari>what i am missing
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08:57<monra>hello. does anybody knows what program should i use to open .pptx files ?
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09:00<gsimmons_>diego: Looks like flashplayer.xpt is no longer provided upstream. Just move libflashplayer.so instead.
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09:02<monra>does anybody knows what program should i use to open .pptx files ?
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09:03<themill>monra: nothing under linux can yet. there are websites that can convert them to pdf files for you
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09:04<diego>gsimmons_: I did so. Followed the reminder of the instructions, restarted iceweasel, but nothing happened. Is /.mozilla/ the right directory to put it in? There was no /.mozilla/plugins/ directory, I had to create one.
09:04<monra>themill, like as? searching in google some time now and http://www.ecrion.com/Downloads/Downloads.aspx was the best i found? hm..
09:07<themill>monra: I'm searching through my bookmarks for you at the moment but I can't find anything :(
09:08<gsimmons_>diego: It will need to be in ~/.mozilla/plugins, be sure to move libflashplayer.so to that location and run ndiswrapper as directed. Failing that, try an older plugin revision (eg. r48 or r31).
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09:08<themill>monra: untried by me but looks good: http://www.greghughes.net/rant/ConvertDOCXFilesToDOCAndPPTXFilesToPPT.aspx
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09:09<monra>themill, yes saw that. but pptx2ppt.com doesn't work
09:09<themill>monra: yeah.. I just realised that too
09:09<diego>gsimmons_: Ok thank you!
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09:18<fuX_Xor>A somewhat general question: Will I encounter any problems if I reset the permissions of my /etc/ directory to 400 ?
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09:18<avu>fuX_Xor: yes, plenty
09:19<cdlu>fux_xor, your nick would be very apt if you did that.
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09:23<fuX_Xor>Any thoughts on how to lock people in 1 particular directory? The "peope" use Filezilla and they are logging onto a Debian Etch box running sftp.
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09:26<azeem>fuX_Xor: sounds like chroot
09:27<fuX_Xor>azeem: yeah, read about that, but i was wondering if there were any other solutions (simpler :)), but it seems chroot is the path to follow . Tnx ill dive into it
09:27<azeem>fuX_Xor: there might be something simpler *building on* chroot
09:27<gsimmons_>fuX_Xor: You might be interested in the 'scponly' package.
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09:30<fuX_Xor>gsimmons_: read it, seems nice :)
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09:31<bajtek>no
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09:33<gsimmons_>fuX_Xor: What isn't mentioned in the package description is its chroot function. There's details in its README.Debian file.
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09:38<fuX_Xor>gsimmons_: tnx for the info. I've decided to just face the fact that i've got to learn how to build a "chroot-jail". Tnx for the info though :)
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09:43<shastry>hi, whats the difference between xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-686 and xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-686 ?
09:43<shastry>what should i use if i want to setup a dom0 ?
09:45<azeem>do you plan to use vserver?
09:45<azeem>do you know what is vserver?
09:45<azeem>if not, use the first
09:46<shastry>where do i learn what a vserver is?
09:46<azeem>google and wikipedia would be obvious choices
09:46<shastry>ok :)
09:47<grummund>http://lists.debian.org/ seems to have several broken links, can someone point me to a page where I can find a debian-user post made a few weeks ago (November), please?
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09:47<azeem>lists.debian.org/debian-user-0711/
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09:50<grummund>azeem: thank you
09:52[~]themill wonders if he needs to send the Cool URIs Don't Change article to the debian listmasters
09:54<azeem>when did URIs change?
09:54<grummund>hmm... my post doesn't show up there, that's odd.
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09:56<themill>azeem: with the changes to the list server that were ~2 weeks ago. It used to be l.d.o/debian-user/2007/11/ etc
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09:58<azeem>themill: that alias has been working for years
09:58<themill>azeem: no, I take that back... the old URIs do still work ;)
09:58<azeem>and l.d.o/debian-user/2007/11/ works fine for me as well
09:58<themill>yep... just noticed that :)
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10:06<sssvi01>i need explanation of this :(){ :|:& };:
10:06<shastry>sssvi01: forkbomb
10:07<sssvi01>yes i know but how it works
10:07<shastry>replace the colon with a function name
10:07<avu>replace : with 'func' and maybe.. yes
10:07<avu>I am too slow ;(
10:08<shastry>:)
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10:09<sssvi01>oh
10:09<sssvi01>:-)
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10:13<themill>it's a very sweet bit of code, that one.
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10:15<k4k-shell>Hello, maybe some can help me here. Is there a network-manager 0.6.5 for debian?
10:15<k4k-shell>currently I have 0.6.4 and synaptic doesn't see any updates for it
10:17<k4k-shell>Anyone know of another place to find deb packages on the net?
10:18<themill>k4k-shell: n-m 0.6.5 is in testing, but not available for stable. There is no backport of n-m for stable. Other than backports.org, and debian-multimedia.org, there are no other sensible and safe places to get .debs from that we would recommend here.
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10:18<k4k-shell>themill: so it's impossible, that you know of, to get it? I really need to be able to have WPA-EAS with TTLS, TKIP and PAP, PAP which 0.6.4 can't do
10:19<k4k-shell>but 0.6.5 has that update
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10:19<themill>k4k-shell: I suspect that n-m isn't that simple to backport... but try /msg dpkg simple sid backport
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10:20<k4k-shell>themill: thank you I will look further into this with that information
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10:21<sssvi01>does anyone know any backup server and client with rollback support
10:22<sssvi01>like OSX leopards time machine
10:22<sssvi01>in linux
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10:23<k4k-shell>Ok, here is another question, I got etch to go into suspend when I close my laptop lid, but when it comes back from suspend, n m says that I don't have any network interfaces activated...can I fix this somehow?
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10:25<sssvi01>which backup server is best for small business
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10:25<zaikxtox>hello. i have a little network server written on python on a debian etch server and it's giving me this error: socket.error: (24, 'Too many open files')
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10:25<zaikxtox>i have checked /proc/sys/fs/file-nr and /proc/sys/fs/file-max but i see no problem
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10:48<kmap>Debianers, even after a lot of Googling, I can't find this. How do I record stuff which goes through my sound card to a Wave file?
10:48<kmap>I've tried arecord in vain, with the details of the arecord man page
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10:51<justMe_>\quit
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10:54<chealer>kmap: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/01/msg00843.html
10:55<kmap>chealer: Thanks, reading
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11:08<diego>I still have problems geting flashplayer to work with nsplluginwrapper. I follow every step in the guide, but get no results.
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11:14<fluxdude>got debian sid, after updating the system, glibc I believe update and then every program started segfaulting, have not been able to boot up am now in chroot of the system and everything segfaults so I'm not sure how I can recover this.
11:14<fluxdude>any ideas?
11:15<azeem>check the md5sum of the glibc libs, maybe
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11:24<ce_16_basket>ch.dal.net 7009
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11:25<_BoBo_BoSs>hy
11:25<_BoBo_BoSs>iptables -I INPUT -s ip -j DROP
11:25<_BoBo_BoSs>this command is good
11:25<_BoBo_BoSs>to block a ip ?
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11:28<dkr>_BoBo_BoSs: is this a firewall or just a server?
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11:28<_BoBo_BoSs>a server
11:29<dkr>the INPUT chain is only for packets going to the machine. if packets are being forwarded through a firewall they would be going through FORWARD chain. ok, that is good then
11:29<_BoBo_BoSs>txs
11:29<_BoBo_BoSs>and for all clas
11:29<_BoBo_BoSs>how ?
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11:29<_BoBo_BoSs>iptables -I INPUT -s 0.0/8 -j DROP
11:29<dkr>do you mean protocol?
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11:30<dkr>oh, yes, you can use network/bits notation
11:31<_BoBo_BoSs>dkr
11:31<_BoBo_BoSs>dec 06 18:15:02 Connection attempt (UNPRIV): 1 packet from 84.48.120.27
11:31<_BoBo_BoSs>i have more conection
11:31<_BoBo_BoSs>this
11:31<_BoBo_BoSs>is ok ?
11:32<dkr>I don't know
11:32<_BoBo_BoSs>how close all conection for this ip ?
11:32<_BoBo_BoSs>tcp udp all
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11:34<dcordero>hi
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11:40<dcordero>someone know if nvidia-glx package is broken on sid?
11:40<stew>dcordero: /msg dpkg bts
11:41<dcordero>thanks
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11:46<kmap>chealer: I need more help with the recording please.
11:46<kmap>chealer: I have enabled capture on all channels, but whatever input I choose on audaicyt, I get no sound...
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11:48<chealer>kmap: including the Capture channel, right?
11:48<kmap>chealer: Let me see. Could you just explain that?
11:48<kmap>chealer: I ran alsamixer
11:49<kmap>chealer: chealer And capture channels are in full volume
11:49<kmap>chealer: Let me confirm with kmix
11:49<stew>kmap: are they also unmuted?
11:49<weasel>are you actually recording?
11:50<weasel>audacity will not echo the input to the output unless is is currently recording
11:50<kmap>weasel: I am recording
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11:50<weasel>correct input and output device?
11:50<chealer>kmap: I think there should be only one Capture channel.
11:51<kmap>chealer: I have two... I've now increased volumes (again)
11:51<kmap>chealer: Let me start audacity
11:51<kmap>(again)
11:51<chealer>kmap: OK then, maybe you have two sound cards or something else more than me
11:52<kmap>chealer: I don't...
11:52<kmap>chealer: Let me now switch the inputs in Audacity one by one
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11:54<kmap>chealer: Nope. Do you have any audacity specific hints?
11:54<kmap>chealer: I mean, any settings in audacity?
11:55<kmap>chealer: Also, my input sources are all Mic, Line etc... does that matter?
11:55<chealer>kmap: before I check that, could your provide a screenshot of your settings from kmix?
11:55<kmap>chealer: On the job.
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11:56<kmap>chealer: www.ee.iitm.ac.in/~ee03b091/kmix.png
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11:57<stew>kmap: those look muted to me
11:57<stew>kmap: but i'm not familiar with that tool
11:57<kmap>stew: Are you sure?
11:57<kmap>stew: The red lights at the bottom are on
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11:57<stew>kmap: no. if you put the output of "amixer" into a pastebin it would be more definitive
11:57<kmap>stew: OK
11:58<stew>kmap: or "amixer -c1" if we are talking about a secondary source
11:58<padski>is there something like firebug but for konqueror. I'm looking at a web page that renders differently on konqueror to firefox and ie and trying to work out why
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11:58<etanoox>know rld?
11:58<etanoox>*rlpd
11:58<klando>padski, don't knowif ther is something more than the treeview and the jsdebugger... treeview let you customise css on the fly
11:59<chealer>kmap: it seems OK, but also strange. I have 7 non-Capture input channels on my laptop, you have only one.
11:59<chealer>s/7/6/
11:59<chealer>padski: ask #debian-kde
11:59<klando>padski, it is already in konqueror, just activate it
11:59<kmap>stew, chealer: http://paste.debian.net/44301
12:00<stew>kmap: yeah, that looks correct, "Front Left: Capture 35 [100%] [35.00dB] [on]" [on] is what i was looking for
12:01<kmap>stew: Yes. So what change in audacity? Or can you give me the right arecord command?
12:01<padski>klando, how ?
12:01<stew>kmap: except, i don't know if the first Input Source pointing at CD could be a problem
12:01<stew>kmap: are you using mic or line in? are you using input source 0 or input source 1?
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12:02<kmap>stew: What should input sources be?
12:02<kmap>stew: Should I set them to Line on both?
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12:02<stew>kmap: which physical input source are you using?
12:03<stew>kmap: like, which plug
12:03<kmap>stew: Um, a speaker?
12:03<kmap>stew: Input?
12:03<kmap>stew: Sorry
12:03<kmap>stew: I have no input. I want to record the stuff played by my sound card
12:03<klando>padski, go on a webpage, then 'configuration' then 'config extensions'
12:03<stew>oh
12:03<klando>then check the DOM pluguin
12:04<kmap>stew: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/269082
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12:06<stew>kmap: yeah, i dunno about that. i'd think you'd have to work some magic with .asoundrc, but i dunno
12:06<kmap>stew: Been there, done that, to no avail. :-)
12:06<kmap>stew: I'll ask on Debian user. Thanks to you and chealer for helping out.
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12:09<jackblack>hi
12:09<jackblack>anyone got experiance with tcldict
12:10<jackblack>checking system version (for dynamic loading)... configure: line 9892: syntax error near unexpected token `('
12:10<jackblack>configure: line 9892: ` case `(ac_space=' '; set | grep ac_space) 2>&1` in'
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12:10<jackblack>searched foruns an google for hours
12:10<Supaplex>looks like the configure script is boked. are you using bash?
12:10<jackblack>can not find no support
12:10<jackblack>yeh
12:10<jackblack>using bash
12:11<jackblack>if i try ./configure
12:11<jackblack>permission denied
12:11<jackblack>only works with sh configure
12:11<jackblack>but get that error
12:11<Supaplex>try 'bash configure'
12:11<jackblack>loged in as root also
12:11<jackblack>kk
12:12<Supaplex>!tell jackblack -about grounding
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12:16<chealer>kmap: I'm afraid not. that was almost a year ago and I never used audacity since then. now I can't see the capture channel in audacity and everytime I select an ALSA channel it fails to record with an error message which doesn't help me.
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12:16<kmap>chealer: Thanks anyway
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12:18<argmhz>Hi there, i have some troubl with my mousepad on my laptop, its slow and stuff. any suggestions?
12:20<posix>Is there a place in ~/ to put ttf fonts if you don't have write access to /usr/share/fonts/truetype ?
12:20<themill>posix: ~/.fonts/
12:20<posix>perfect, thanks
12:21<themill>posix: but you'll have to run fc-cache afterwards. Or use something like the kcontrolcentre font tools
12:21<posix>right..
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12:21<themill>posix: some apps might not pick up the new fonts until they're restarted. It depends how bright they are.
12:21<posix>xfs restart as well?
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12:22<themill>posix: umm... I've not used xfs for many years (since X got native ttf support, in fact. I'm not sure if xfs even looks in ~/.
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12:23<azeem>IÄ'm not even sure Gnome or KDE even use xfs if present
12:23<gak_bisa_bobo>semarang
12:24<posix>yea.. its all good
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13:48<[1]thijs>yow
13:49<Supaplex>!yo
13:49<dpkg>Wazzup man?
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13:50<jackblack>checking system version (for dynamic loading)... configure: line 9892: syntax error near unexpected token `('
13:50<jackblack>configure: line 9892: ` case `(ac_space=' '; set | grep ac_space) 2>&1` in'
13:50<jackblack>anyone come accross this
13:50<jackblack>configuring tcldict
13:50<jackblack>i tried bash configure like mentiond earlyer
13:50<jackblack>still the same
13:52<Supaplex>try an older version, and contact the author about the bug/issue
13:53<jackblack>yeh thinkl im gonna have to
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13:53<jackblack>i tried older ver still same :(
13:55<[1]thijs>can i build a costumize debian?
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13:57<chealer>[1]thijs: do you mean a customized Debian?
13:58<[1]thijs>yes
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13:58<[1]thijs>custom install cdrom
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13:58<[1]thijs>with own .deb packages etc
13:59<chealer>[1]thijs: if you don't mind, why would you do that?
13:59<stew>[1]thijs: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify
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13:59<ajs>Does anybody here know if there's something that can find me the contact details for DD's that live close to me?
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14:00<avu>do you want to buy them a beer or murder them in their sleep?
14:01<ajs>Get my GPG key signed.
14:01<ajs>I could buy beer too.
14:01<avu>no idea then, sorry ;)
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14:03<azeem>ajs: there's a gpg signing coordination page, should be linked to from nm.debian.org
14:04<azeem>not sure whether it's currently working though
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14:05<ajs>There's https://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php, but it looks like it might be out of date
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14:05<ajs>thanks though
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14:24<dr4gon>hi
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14:27<Swissgent>hi
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14:29<porridge>hi
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14:31<porridge>is there a way to turn a regular root filesystem on a direct on-disk partition into an encrypted one in-situ?
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14:37<dkr>no
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14:40<porridge>:-/
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14:40<porridge>I also thought so, but I seem to have this really vague recollection of reading that it's possible..
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14:45<Benneben|work>hellow some possible hero
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14:45<Benneben|work>I've installed debian and put GRUB in the MBR
14:46<Benneben|work>After reboot I only get GRUB loading, please wait... "newline" Error 21
14:47<Benneben|work>does anyone know how I can alter GRUB through the debian installer or something?
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14:53<Gryfelhas>Benneben|work: Don't know how to do it with the install-discs, but if you own some kind of live-cd of knoppix or something, there should be a comand like "grup-update"
14:53<pablum>Benneben|work, the mnemonic is 'e', iirc
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14:58<Benneben|work>Gryfelhas: I just checked, and the grup-update thing might do the trick
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14:59<Benneben|work>but can't I simply re-install my debian and just before rebooting open up a shell?
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14:59<Benneben|work>and switch to the installed os an use grub-update?
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15:21<N1ghtCrawler>How do i download torrentfiles from a private torrenttracker using wget?
15:21<N1ghtCrawler>i need a cookie
15:22<N1ghtCrawler>in wget i think
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15:24<Supaplex>wget supports cookies, as does lynx, elinks and others, w3m I think. check the help and/or man pages
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15:27<N1ghtCrawler>can i log on the tracker using wget so i can use --save-cookies ?
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15:28<Supaplex>not w/o some frustration
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15:28<davity>hola
15:28<N1ghtCrawler>Supaplex: ?
15:29<Supaplex>N1ghtCrawler: I think you can specify a cookies file to. think about it, submitting a form for login is going to need more skill. I'm not going venture how because it's just too much pain. login with something you can reap the cookies from, and let wget keep them
15:30<N1ghtCrawler>Guess I can use firefox to get the cookies. Will try
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15:35<N1ghtCrawler>now comes the second hard part, what of all cookies to use :p
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15:53<BBoyDanny>hello every1 =)
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15:58<N1ghtCrawler>Good, nows the biggest problem, i need to frite a script that loads all the cookies to wget and then downlad the file.
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16:08<N1ghtCrawler>Shell script varaibles? Somone want to explain or got a good guide?
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16:09<N1ghtCrawler>i want a prompt asking for what a variable should be
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16:13<panagos>hello! i have the following problem: though konqueror finds my installed java and displays applets properly, iceweasel does not! instead, i see that puzzle icon
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16:21<Benneben|work>Hi anyone
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16:25<klimy>hi
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16:25<klimy>is it possible to look what event is bound to a particular key in gnome?
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16:26<klimy>i somehow happen to disable my <period> key
16:26<klimy>and actually i think pressing period is quite a cool feature to get a period in my editor
16:27<velixzeen>klimy: I suspect this is an X-Window issue
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16:28<klimy>velixzeen: could be i tried to assign stuff in the keyboard shortcuts
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16:28<klimy>but i dont see period bound to anything
16:28<velixzeen>oh, I see.
16:29<velixzeen>So just to check, does the period key work when you go to a terminal with cntl-alt-F1?
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16:29<klimy>yeah
16:29<klimy>works
16:30<klimy>i am positive that i assigned period to some key but i cannot see which one
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16:32<velixzeen>I wonder if xmodmap might help.
16:32<Killing_Frost>Anyone know how to do a Debian install via a LiveCD, like GRML, Oralux, or Ubuntu? I'm blind and need a talking installation environment, or at least start the install with a Speakup modified kernel.
16:32<weasel>Killing_Frost: debootstrap can help you with that, but you have to do several steps manually.
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16:33<donfede>hello debian folk. i am using cdbs to create some debian packages (audacity and jackd) ... and I have a patch which I would like to apply which requires "autotools" (automake/autoconf) to be run after the patch. Both those packages use the cdbs "simple-patchsys.mk" utility... but that does not appear to run autotools (even if I put it at the top of the debian/rules file) ... any ideas/suggestions on how to make autotools run after simple-patchsys.mk ?
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16:33<weasel>fnordus: debootstrap just installs the base system. it does not configure hostname or network or a boot loader, nor install a kernel.
16:33<weasel>erm
16:33<weasel>Killing_Frost: debootstrap just installs the base system. it does not configure hostname or network or a boot loader, nor install a kernel.
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16:33[~]Killing_Frost hmmms.
16:34<weasel>Killing_Frost: maybe you can also find a debian-installer modified to support speakup out of the box
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16:34<weasel>Killing_Frost: I know images existed for woody or sarge (previous debian versions)
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16:35<Killing_Frost>Yeah, I have the boot floppy images, but they're for Sarge, rather than Etch.
16:35<weasel>Killing_Frost: if they work you could install sarge and then upgrade to etch
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16:36<klimy>Killing_Frost: you could try a netinstall and then login with ssh
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16:36<Killing_Frost>Guess I'll have to wait for the new laptop...
16:36<Killing_Frost>Tnx.
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16:37[~]Killing_Frost wishes everyone well and heads out.
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16:46<klimy>i looked in metacity my key is not bound there but i did not open other applications to bind period
16:47<klimy>is there some central file where all the keybindings are stored? because all users have this problem
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16:48<serru>hello to all....anybody from rep. Moldova???
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16:51<apache_dummy>hello is is possible to get any help on configuring apache server after installation? I am a real dummy. After installing apache2 looged as root when I switch back to a normal user I can't add any html file to the document root in var/www/ what would I have to do?
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16:54<dondelelcaro>apache_dummy: just set the permissions of /var/www appropriately so your user can write there
16:54<dondelelcaro>apache_dummy: chown foouser /var/www FE; or possibly chgrp foogroup /var/www; chmod g+w /var/www;
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16:59<apache_dummy>dondelelcaro : so let's say the user and group are called lizard how would I have to write the commands? Thanks for your help.
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16:59<Benneben|work>Triviaquiz!: is there a tool to list the disks with its partitions?
16:59<don_armstrong>apache_dummy: chgrp lizard /var/www; chmod g+w /var/www; then you can write to it as lizard
16:59<grummund>apache_dummy: is lizard the only user that would need to wite to /var/www ?
17:00<streuner>Benneben|work: fdisk -l
17:00<streuner>apache_dummy: re-read what dondelelcaro told you and read /msg dpkg permissions
17:00<Benneben|work>now what if he tells me cannot open /proc/partitions?
17:00<apache_dummy>grummund: maybe a second user called squirrel as well
17:00<streuner>Benneben|work: use an official kernel :-)
17:00<apache_dummy>thanks for all your help
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17:01<grummund>apache_dummy: then the exact example given won't work
17:01<panagos>apache_dummy: btw, users can put html files in their ~/public_html directory, and it will be shown by apache as http://[yourhost]/~[username]/
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17:01<Benneben|work>damn, that means the costum installer is no good
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17:02<Nemoder>apache_dummy: instead you could chgrp www-data /var/www; addgroup lizard www-data
17:02<Benneben|work>well I need to know what the code is for my sata disk with both vista and debian on
17:02<apache_dummy>panagos: how does that work? do I have to change anything in the configuration file to make it work as you say?
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17:03<grummund>apache_dummy: if each user has their own site you can do what panagos says, otherwise you need a common group - but maybe you already have www-data
17:03<panagos>apache_dummy: no, it's on by default! just give read permission to the dir and its contents
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17:03<apache_dummy>grummund: yes I see I have www-data
17:04<grummund>apache_dummy: but do the two user's want separate or common website?
17:04<Nemoder>apache_dummy: just add yourself and any other users that need access to that group (then logout and back in)
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17:06<apache_dummy>grummund : a common website will be ok to start though it would be good to know how to have separate sites
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17:07<apache_dummy>Nemoder: excuse my dummy question but how do I add myself into the www-data group ?
17:07<grummund>apache_dummy: as root: adduser lizard www-data
17:08<Nemoder>what he said, then logout and back in, you can see what groups you already belong to by just running 'groups'
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17:08<panagos>(normally www-data is installed automatically when you install apache)
17:09<apache_dummy>Thanks grummund, Nemoder and panagos. I see this is a great channel to get help. =)
17:09<panagos>D:
17:09<panagos>:D
17:09<gsimmons_>Nemoder: I don't believe using www-data is a good idea. As Apache runs under the www-data user/group by default, a compromised web server would be able to rewrite any content associated.
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17:10<apache_dummy>gsimmons: what would you suggest?
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17:11<panagos>you could add a href from /var/www/index.html (or whatever) to /~[username]
17:11<gsimmons_>apache_dummy: Use any group other than www-data for content. Create your own if necessary.
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17:11<grummund>apache_dummy: check group ownership on /var/www, it will need to match whatever group you add the users to: ls -ld /var/www
17:11<grummund>how about 'staff'
17:12<Nemoder>hmm I guess as long as apache only needs read access that works
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17:13<apache_dummy>grummund: it says root
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17:14<grummund>apache_dummy: you can change that, e.g.: chgrp www-data /var/www
17:15<grummund>apache_dummy: you could set up a group for hat you want: addgroup www-users
17:16<grummund>as mentioned, that might be better than www-data
17:18<apache_dummy>grummund: ok so I will try to do that.
17:19<apache_dummy>grummund: I have now created a staff group
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17:21<grummund>apache_dummy: staff group should already exist i thihnk
17:21<eldowan>I've installed kdetheme, but am having trouble getting it to work on Lenny. Could someone lend a hand?
17:21<apache_dummy>grummund: you're right.I see a message that says that
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17:26<mattia> /server irc.darksin.net
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17:26<apache_dummy>grummund: so if I got it right the owner of /var/www should be root and the group should be staff??
17:27<apache_dummy>? :-/
17:27<Nemoder>sounds right
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17:27<grummund>apache_dummy: yep. and you will need group write permissions
17:27<chealer>eldowan: what's kdetheme?
17:28<apache_dummy>grummund : and I added the user lizard to staff
17:28<eldowan>chealer: front end to change/add/remove kdm login themes.
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17:29<chealer>eldowan: that looks fairly rare. you should probably ask its authors, but you can always ask.
17:30<eldowan>chealer: I've even tried editing /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and /etc/default/kdm.d/10_desktop-base
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17:30<eldowan>chealer: I'm trying to change the look of the kdm login screen, and am having no luck
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17:30<eldowan>I can do without the theme manager if I can get the manual settings to work.
17:31<apache_dummy>grummund : I see group has no write permission right now.
17:31<ads>hi can some one please refresh my memory on the permission bits for an ls command for e.g rrwxrwxrwxrwx the first bit is the type of file the next 9 are group,owner and other read write execute permissions.. in which order please??
17:31<eldowan>owner:group:other
17:31<eldowan>ads ^
17:31<ads>thank you very much
17:33<ads>im writing my own ls :D
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17:35<grummund>then you might want to consult man ls ;)
17:35<apache_dummy>grummund: can you please tell me how to use chmod to give group permission for /var/www/ to staff ?
17:35<ads>i have :D as well as man 5 stat
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17:35<apache_dummy>to write
17:35<grummund>apache_dummy: it was told when you first asked... ^^
17:36<grummund>apache_dummy: chgrp g+w /var/www/
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17:36<grummund>apache_dummy: chmod +w /var/www/
17:36<grummund>argghh
17:36<grummund>apache_dummy: chmod g+w /var/www/
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17:36<grummund>that ;)
17:36<ads>hey one more thing if u wud be so kind -rw-r--r-- 1 ? ? 6201 2007-12-06 22:34 ahls.c the two question marks is it owner then group ids? and after these is it number of blocks?
17:37<apache_dummy>Grummund : Thanks a lot and excuse for being so dummy. =P
17:37<apache_dummy>:P
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17:37<grummund>apache_dummy: np.
17:38<Supaplex>ads: what are you writing your new ls in?
17:38<grummund>apache_dummy: you should consult man chmod; man chgrp; etc...
17:38<ads>c
17:39<Supaplex>ads: you'll want to look into stat readdir etc.
17:39<apache_dummy>grummund: I will. :-)
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17:39<ads>i have thanks Supaplex was jus curious about these things and wanted to find fast
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17:39<Supaplex>ads: and spell your words out, keep the txt speak for the phone.
17:39<ads>excuse me sorry its a bad habit
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17:40<apache_dummy>grummund: I get and "invalid mode: `chomd' message
17:40<ads>ok thanks for your help all the same goodbye
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17:40<apache_dummy>I mean chmod
17:41<apache_dummy>sorry
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17:41<apache_dummy>I got it right now
17:41<apache_dummy>:-P
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17:43<apache_dummy>I will got out back in again. I will let you know how it goes.
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17:53<tmg1|chthulhu>woa!
17:53<tmg1|chthulhu>netsplit!
17:53<alex_>yes, we're what split off the rest of oftc
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17:54<apache_dummy>grummund: Thanks a lot. Now I can write html files into /var/www/ as a user other than root
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17:54<grummund>apache_dummy: cool.
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17:55<grummund>apache_dummy: btw there is also 'users' group
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17:55<grummund>so many ways to set it up, you have to understand it and then decide what you need
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17:56<apache_dummy>so I can add user into that users group and they could also write into that /var/www/
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17:57<[gloom]>Hi there
17:57<grummund>if /var/www was group users, yes
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17:58<apache_dummy>grummund: just one question how is the procedure to allow remote connection into that PC and its /var/www/ to add or change the html files?
17:59<[gloom]>After installing debian on a dualbot vista-debian machina, some features like readyboost and readydrive in vista have become disabled. How can I know if linux is writing something in the 1gbRobson Flash memory that vista uses for enhance the boot and disk writes??
17:59<[gloom]>Is it used by default?
17:59<Supaplex>[gloom]: negative
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17:59<[gloom]>mmm, and how can I explain this?
18:00<mike>I am unable to d/load a Lenny net install iso ?
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18:00<Supaplex>I'm vista clueless. how can I explain something I don't know?
18:00<mike>Anyone have a working link?
18:01<[gloom]>those features have been enabled in vista for the last 2 weeks, and I have installed debian today, and it didn't work anymore, so I thought that maybe debian has written something in the internal flash, and vista has disabled the features
18:01<mike>http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
18:01<Supaplex>mike: there are daily lenny testing isos. try some google fuu, you should find it.
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18:01<Totor>hi
18:01<mike>ok am there now "above link"
18:01<mike>But not working
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18:03<Supaplex>mike: i386? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/
18:03<Supaplex>works here.
18:05<mike>hmm no go here
18:05<mike>NZ
18:06<Supaplex>http://victoria.acc.umu.se/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
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18:07<Totor>does anyone got a clue about how debian deals with turion x2 proc ? frequency and dual core managment ....
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18:07<NCouffin>Hi
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18:14<mike>Supaplex, something strange here in NZ :(
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18:18<tebo>can I setting monitor contrast by software? help me please?
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18:19<zimbra>hi everybody
18:20<GhostlyDeath>wow it got empty!
18:20<zimbra>I would like to apologize for my bad english but i will try to be as clear as possible
18:21<zimbra>i have found a product called zimbra and it seems good
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18:21<zimbra>I have tried to install it on a virtual machine (vmware) with debian 4.0
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18:22<zimbra>i have taken an adress with dyndns.org
18:23<zimbra>and there is something i didnt understand when you configuring the hosts files you need to enter the "MX"
18:23<PetaWindows>"MX"? :S
18:24<GhostlyDeath>MX?
18:24<zimbra>it is for configuring the redirection of mails
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18:24<zimbra>I suppose
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18:25<PetaWindows>and... what does the vmware matter?
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18:26<zimbra>well in fact i have installed debian on a virtual machine i have no other machine and i just want to test zimbra only
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18:27<grummund>so what's the question?
18:27<zimbra>the question is :
18:27<Supaplex>42!
18:27<GhostlyDeath>no
18:27<GhostlyDeath>41
18:27<Supaplex>aptitude: 42
18:27<aptitude>42 is, like, the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. or 6 * 8 or hexadecimal for ascii 'B' or 10!/86400, or what you get when you multiply 6 by 9. (base 13), or a number that silly people use, or the number of roads a man walks down. in Douglas Adams' book, or *not* the meaning of life
18:27<zimbra>how do you make working an email address with dyndns
18:28<zimbra>for instance your adress mysite.com
18:28<zimbra>excuse
18:28<GhostlyDeath>set up a mail server
18:28<zimbra>mysite.dyndns.org
18:28<GhostlyDeath>you could potentially do myself@127.0.0.1
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18:29<zimbra>and an email bob@mysite.dyndns.org ? is it possible ?
18:29<grummund>zimbra: yes, if you run a mail server
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18:29<zimbra>ok but you need to configurate the hosts file ? is that correct ?
18:30<grummund>zimbra: MX record should list the mailserver address
18:30<Supaplex>if the hostname is the mailserver, you don't even need an mx, so long as you have mailboxes setup, and the mail server knows it's the final destination for that hostname.
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18:30<grummund>zimbra: dyndns have some good howto's on their site, perhaps you should look there to start
18:31<zimbra>i have tried to....my english is rather bad
18:31<grummund>Supaplex: true in most cases. but there are subtle differences, and it costs nothing to setup an MX record
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18:31<eldowan>can someone lend a hand in enabling KDM themes? I've tried everything I could find online, and nothing seems to help. I've edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc /etc/default/kdm.d/10_desktop-base and tried using the package kdmtheme and nothing works.
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18:34<zimbra>if i reduce my goals for the tests, can I create a user called 'bob' for instance and sending an email to bob@127.0.0.1 ? would it works ?
18:34<grummund>zimbra: to start with you must be running a mail server
18:35<zimbra>postfix ?
18:35<Supaplex>sure, postfix is fine.
18:35<streuner>!start a MTA war
18:35<dpkg>smail owns
18:36<streuner>argh
18:36<streuner>!multiple ask
18:36<dpkg>i guess multiple ask is the chance of you getting a useful answer is inversely proportional to the square of the number of times you ask in a short amount of time: that is, if you ask four times in succession, you're 1/16 as likely to get a useful answer. Also, please don't ask both in freenode and oftc at the same time there's no real point in doing so and it's just annoying.
18:37<grummund>zimbra: but also it is unlikely to work just using IP addresses
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18:38<zimbra>I know but my goal is to look how zimbra works the admin gui and the client web
18:38<Supaplex>many mail servers will puke if you expect who@ip.ip.ip.ip to work.
18:39<Supaplex>so zimbra, what is the first email address you're trying to test?
18:39<zimbra>I don't even finished the installation...
18:40<grummund>heh. ;)
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18:40<Supaplex>use dnsstuff.com to test your dns. there's dnsreport.com to iirc.
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18:41<Supaplex>zimbra: when you start asking <smart questions>, you'll get more lucid answers. until then, SFA
18:41<Supaplex>!tell zimbra about smart questions
18:43<zimbra>I know but when you don't speak english fluently it is quite hard to explain
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18:43<zimbra>Thanks all of you for your effort
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18:44<PetaWindows>zimbra: I know this feeling xD
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18:44<hakkas>hi
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18:45<hakkas>how can I mount to my windows harddrive?
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18:45<zimbra>is there some debian french users ?
18:46<Supaplex>!fr
18:46<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net.
18:47<GhostlyDeath>Debian has it's own IRC server?
18:47<Supaplex>it's on here on oftc
18:47<JasonS>GhostlyDeath: yep points to oftc
18:47<GhostlyDeath>that's cheating!
18:48<Supaplex>no. just clever.
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18:48<apache_dummy>good night everyone thanks for all your help
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18:52<PetaWindows>zimbra: I'm catalan
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18:53<PetaWindows>zimbra: so we are neighbours I suppose
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18:55<zimbra>i am from paris
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18:55<grummund>what do i need to install to get a man page for utimes() ?
18:56<PetaWindows>zimbra: beautiful city :)
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18:56<Supaplex>!tell grummund -about apt-file
18:56<oxymor00n>grummund: manpages-dev i think
18:56<Supaplex>grummund: apt-file search man/ | grep utimes or apt-file search utimes | grep man
18:56<zimbra>beautiful in spring or in summer
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18:56<Supaplex>after you install+update :)
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18:58<grummund>oxymor00n: you are right
18:58<grummund>thanks
18:58<oxymor00n>yw :)
19:01<ody>hey guys and girls, the installer hangs at software selection and I'm getting a message at one of the consoles saying findutils will be removed and I must type "I am aware that this a very bad idea" to continue
19:01<ody>any ideas how to get around this?
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19:02<miles>hello
19:03<Nemoder>ody: is this for lenny?
19:03<miles>i am trying to do a netinstall, but for some reason, my nic isnt picking up an IP (when im in windows i can get one). My nic is a realtek and is integrated into my mobo...i want to download an iso from the internet on this laptop, is there an image that is a minimal as possible without needing an internet connection?
19:03<ody>yeah forgot to mention
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19:04<dondelelcaro>ody: first upgrade to etch, then upgrade to lenny.
19:04<Nemoder>I noticed mlocate just hit lenny and it conflicts with findutils
19:04<miles>im having trouble understanding the difference between the "netinst" and the "business card"
19:04<Supaplex>miles: www.goodbye-windows.com perhaps. which model of realtec is it?
19:04<ody>dondelelcaro: you mean install
19:04<ody>?
19:04<azeem>miles: the business card is even less than the netinst
19:04<mike>ody, Same problem
19:04<dondelelcaro>ody: uh.. are you installing lenny?
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19:04<azeem>miles: for a networkless install, you'd need the full CD #1
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19:04<ody>yeah
19:05<mike>It wiped out my etch install/grub as well
19:05<miles>azeem: ok thanks
19:05<azeem>miles: if you hit alt+f3 during install and run /sbin/ifconfig, is eth0 being displayedÃd?
19:05<miles>azeem: i didnt know you could escape that install wizard and get console..I will try it and/or download #1
19:05<miles>i was just hoping to get a minimal install like the one a netinstall would give me
19:05<miles>thanks everyone
19:05<mike>my lenny install hangs at 5%
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19:06<Supaplex>!tell Hiryu -about away
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19:09<ody>So the only way is to install etch and then upgrade to lenny? Damn that's alot of downloading :S
19:09<ody>anyway thanks for helping
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19:10<miles>azeem: im sorry, what command would get me to the shell?
19:10<Nemoder>I think it's ctrl-alt-f3
19:10<miles>ok thanks
19:10<azeem>01:01 < azeem> miles: if you hit alt+f3 during install and run /sbin/ifconfig, is eth0 being displayed�d?
19:11<azeem>miles: oh, is this the graphical installer?
19:11<miles>yea
19:11<azeem>ah
19:11<miles>would starting over in text mode make a difference?
19:11<azeem>does Nemoder's suggestion not work?
19:12<miles>i havent tried yet...ill give them both a try. im downloading #1 right now, so worst case ill just use that
19:12<miles>thanks again
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19:14<GhostlyDeath>How would I extend my desktop (or show another workspace) on another monitor?
19:14<dondelelcaro>by configuring both videocards and monitors in X and optionally using xinerama.
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19:15<GhostlyDeath>damn.. even temporary, it's a pain
19:16<alex_>does anybody know when lenny will be released?
19:16<GhostlyDeath>in over 9000 years
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19:17<GhostlyDeath>How would I configure X?
19:18<dondelelcaro>GhostlyDeath: with an editor? There may be some other more GUI methods, but I don't know them.
19:18<GhostlyDeath>No automatic configuring?
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19:19<dondelelcaro>GhostlyDeath: it *may* work for multiple monitors, but I don't know.
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19:29<shivraj>anyone know of a preconfigured apache I can install ?
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19:29<shivraj>I remember installing one program that is preconfigured
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19:30<petemc>you dont have to do much to have one working website with the debian apache2 packages
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19:30<shivraj>petemc : really ?
19:30<petemc>yeah, it comes with one vhost setup
19:31<petemc>so you just need to put your site in document root
19:31<petemc>its not hard to set up more, for that matter
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19:32<PetaWindows>really easy :)
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19:36<jhonber>holas
19:39<jhonber>hola
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19:43<shivraj>petemc : where do I edit the site ? my site is 127.0.0.1 or localhost ...
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19:46<PetaWindows>shivraj: to add files to the server?
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19:46<shivraj>PetaWindows he said all I have to do is add my site to document root
19:46<shivraj>is that in /etc /var ??? Im clueless
19:47<Solver>DocumentRoot is defined in your apache config
19:47<Solver>probably /var/www by default iirc
19:48[~]Solver goes to shower
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19:49<shivraj>hmmm .. I get that it works pointing to localhost
19:49<neiljp>I only just found out about cpufreq-info - but it seems to report the 'wrong' results...
19:49<neiljp>compared to /proc/cpuinfo
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19:58<PetaWindows>shivraj: you have to put the files you want to add to your server, for exemple an index.html for a web page, in the /var/www
19:58<PetaWindows>logued as root
19:59<PetaWindows>*in the /var/www directory
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20:01<PetaWindows>shivraj: but remember to delete the "default" files that apache put in /var/www when it's installed
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20:02<[gloom]>Which driver for a Intel 4965AGN Wifi?
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20:04<PetaWindows>shivraj: because it could appear when you try to join your server through iceweasel for example, instead of showing your web site.
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20:11<luciano_uisk>hi
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20:12<luciano_uisk>i have just look my xorg.conf and my entry "device" sais that the driver is vesa, ..
20:12<luciano_uisk>i tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg but it didnt changed
20:12<luciano_uisk>how can i change it?
20:12<azeem>!drxx
20:12<dpkg>To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about <xmd5sum> if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself.
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20:12<luciano_uisk>should i try to change it name by hand?
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20:15<luciano_uisk>does the nvidia drivers are called "nv" ?
20:15<luciano_uisk>the dpkg-reconfigure prompted a menu that shows some drives that i should use, ..
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20:17<gsimmons>!tell [gloom] -about ipw4965
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20:18<blarson>luciano_uisk: nv is the free driver for nvidia. There is a non-free one that supposedly works better on some cards.
20:18<spanther>is it possible to run compiz with the "nvidia" opensource driver? :-)
20:18<luciano_uisk>ok, ..
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20:18<luciano_uisk>in my case, is a onboard chip, called geforce 6100
20:18<spanther>i mean compiz without closed source drivers :)
20:18<luciano_uisk>i will try this one, by now, ..
20:18<luciano_uisk>lets see, ..
20:19<MikkLinux>!compiz
20:19<dpkg>i guess compiz is a window and composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. It runs on <Xgl> and <AIGLX>. It is now in Debian and can run when AIGLX and composite are enabled for your X server. Read http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz
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20:20<MikkLinux>hey how does one make the bot dpkg send a topic of my choosing to someone outside the chat who might ask a question?
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20:23<luciano_uisk>other issue
20:23<luciano_uisk>in the dmesg it promts something like this
20:23<luciano_uisk>pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[03e9:10de] has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS
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20:23<luciano_uisk>and my paralell port doesnt work
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20:23<luciano_uisk>could it be because this error?
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20:24<MikkLinux>yes probably
20:24<MikkLinux>the port needs some kinda IRQ assigned to it.. maybe it has been turned off
20:24<luciano_uisk>and how can i solve it?
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20:25<MikkLinux>ever messed with your BIOS?
20:25<luciano_uisk>never, ..
20:25<MikkLinux>I'm kinda surprised.. usually it should be enabled by default
20:25<luciano_uisk>the most i had ever done is set the devices that should boot, ..
20:26<luciano_uisk>such like boot floppy instead of cdrom
20:26<luciano_uisk>i am using vmware, too, ...
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20:26<luciano_uisk>could vmware had messed with my bios?
20:26<MikkLinux>unlikely
20:27<MikkLinux>so you have a PCI-e board
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20:29<luciano_uisk>well, i think my mobo have pci-e, but i dont use it, ...
20:30<MikkLinux>oh ok
20:30<MikkLinux>what do you use?
20:30<MikkLinux>for the video card
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20:32<luciano_uisk>does it make some change?
20:33<luciano_uisk>should i go to my bios and change manualy the irq?
20:33<MikkLinux>not really
20:33<MikkLinux>if it has an auto setting set it to that
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20:37<luciano_uisk>and another issue, ...
20:37<luciano_uisk>hehehehe
20:37<luciano_uisk>my connection sometimes drop, and is a little bit slow, ..
20:37<luciano_uisk>asn i am using wireless, ..
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20:37<streuner>hm, dondelelcaro ^^^
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20:41<chealer>spanther: no
20:41<spanther>chealer, mh okay :(
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20:47<lucas_amorim>Hello, I am having a SERIOUS problem here. I am using debian lenny and a nvidia videocard using also their proprietary driver. In the latest lenny update kernel changed from 2.6.22-2 to 2.6.22-3, then I hade to update the nvidia kernel module also. That went ok, I just apt-get linux-headers linux-tree linux-source all tree for the newer kernel and then run the nvidia script ro recompile the module against that source. Job done I started gdm and everythin
20:48<lucas_amorim>I saw a scaring message during boot: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/modules.dep no such file or directory
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20:48<lucas_amorim>and then xorg crashed showing me the log
20:49<lucas_amorim>where I saw that it was something about the nvidia kernel module not being the right one for that kernel
20:49<lucas_amorim>I compiled again and I am still having the same issue
20:50<lucas_amorim>if I just switch to vesa it "works" but no mouse, no sound, no keyboard on X
20:50<dondelelcaro>streuner: ?
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20:51<lucas_amorim>what is happening? Will I have to reinstall everything?? I mean, the whole system?
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20:51<dondelelcaro>lucas_amorim: no, you don't have to reinstall anything. You can ignore that working (or run sudo depmod -a); and X crashing is because the nvidia kernel module and driver aren't working properly.
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20:53<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro: You mean, that FATAL error is ignorable?
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20:55<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro: What should I do?
20:56<lucas_amorim>what does depmod -a means?
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20:59<lucas_amorim>dondelcaro: Also, I noticed that when I tryied to compile the nvidia kernel module and driver for the second time it did not finished well and displayed messages as if it were conflicting with the previews installation...
21:00<Yoshy>Hey, I have xinetd running, I'm trying to setup a service that will listen on a port and when I telnet that port I get a bash that is running as a user called "media"; is there a howto on doing something like this ? (no login/no ssh)
21:01<lucas_amorim>dondelcaro: any ideas? I was thinking that maybe I could try another version of the driver, and that wont probably conflict anymore. But, even when I try the vesa driver X does not work properly, so maybe the problem is not just the driver...
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21:02<lucas_amorim>sorry, i mispelled dondelelcaro
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21:04<Pakalolo>hello people, i've just installed gnome and i am without sound
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21:04<Pakalolo>i tried alsaconf, but nothing
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21:05<Pakalolo>the volume meter appears, but no sound coming on
21:05<Yoshy>Pakalolo: is the master volume muted ?
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21:06<Pakalolo>Yoshy: 90%
21:06<Yoshy>Pakalolo: what is your sound card, some have settings to redirect to other outputs
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21:07<Pakalolo>00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
21:07<Pakalolo>lspci
21:08<Yoshy>Pakalolo: does cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 return something ?
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21:09<geektern>can anyone help with rebuilding initrd?
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21:11<Pakalolo>cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#0: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado
21:11<Yoshy>Pakalolo: er ?
21:12<Pakalolo>what that means? i interested in what you're trying to do
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21:12<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro: ok, now I could compile the nvidia stuff again, it seems to have worked, but mouse is not yet working... how do I find out the problem?
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21:13<Yoshy>Pakalolo: what does that mean - I can only understand english or french, is that Access Denied or File Not Found ?
21:13<Pakalolo>oh sorry man, that's portuguese and that means file not found
21:13<mike__>how can i increase font size in debian 4.0 ,control centre only affects a portion?
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21:13<Pakalolo>i'm crazy
21:14<mike__>konqueror fonts are still small
21:14<Pakalolo>i'm brazilian
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21:14<Yoshy>Pakalolo: ok, so the ALSA modules aren't loaded maybe ? let's see, `lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel` does that return something ?
21:14<odla>i've heard that brazilian's are crazy :)
21:15<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro: also, sound is not working
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21:15<lucas_amorim>odla: I am also brazilian, I am not crazy.
21:15<odla>:)
21:15<Yoshy>haha :p
21:16<lucas_amorim>who is normal anyway...
21:16<lucas_amorim>:p
21:16<odla>americans?
21:16<odla>hha ha ha
21:16<lucas_amorim>ha ha
21:16<odla>i know that answer ... canadians
21:16<Pakalolo>yeah, it returns five lines of modules, i think
21:16<lucas_amorim>good one...
21:16<lucas_amorim>haha
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21:17<Pakalolo>odla: yeah man, we survive here, believe me
21:17<lucas_amorim>heheh
21:17<odla>he he
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21:17<lucas_amorim>well, I just hope I wont have to debian :s
21:18<lucas_amorim>please anyone help-me
21:18<odla>lucas_amorim: what's your question?
21:18<Pakalolo>i think they're loaded
21:18<lucas_amorim>odla: take a look at 22:47
21:19<odla>i just logged on
21:19<lucas_amorim>oh.. I cant copy and paste since I am on text mode... but..
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21:19<lucas_amorim>It is that I had to recompile my nvidia kernel module due to a lenny kernel update.
21:20<lucas_amorim>then I have got some errors after that
21:20<lucas_amorim>like this:
21:20<odla>oh ... i don't know anything about nvidia ... i have an intel card
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21:20<Pakalolo>lucas, what city are you in?
21:21<lucas_amorim>modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/modules.dep: no cuch file or directory
21:21<Pakalolo>i'm in são paulo
21:21<lucas_amorim>odla: but it seems now the problem is away off nvidia
21:21<lucas_amorim>i think I have done something wrong to the kernel modules
21:21<odla>lucas_amorim: do you have the right kernel heades installed?
21:22<lucas_amorim>I could recompile the nvidia module and start gdm greatly. but sound and mouse are not working
21:22<lucas_amorim>odla: yes
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21:24<odla>lucas_amorim: hrm ... i'm not too sure then ... sounds like your module just didn't get built correctly ... have you tried rebuilding it?
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21:24<lucas_amorim>yes
21:24<lucas_amorim>but that fatal error is during the booting of the system, before x gets started
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21:25<lucas_amorim>seems the problem has been reflected somehow to the structure of the system
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21:26<lucas_amorim>Is there anybody able to solve a problem like this? or should i start making backups? :p
21:26<lucas_amorim>:s
21:26<dondelelcaro>lucas_amorim: that fatal error doesn't really matter.
21:26<dondelelcaro>lucas_amorim: you can just run sudo depmod -a; or the equivalent if you're worried about it.
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21:26<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro, ok, i have done this, but mouse and sound are still not working
21:27<lucas_amorim>how could i solve that?
21:27<dondelelcaro>you'd have to see why they aren't.
21:27<lucas_amorim>any ideas?
21:27<dondelelcaro>does your soundcard appear in dmesg? what type of mouse? does alsamixer work?
21:28<lucas_amorim>I will try
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21:30<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro: I think the sound card is not on dmesg, and my mouse is a ps2
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21:31<lucas_amorim>dondelelcaro: alsamixer says: function snd_ctl_open doesn't work: no such device
21:32<lucas_amorim>would it be interesting to reboot the system?
21:32<lucas_amorim>dont think so...
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21:39<kminor>sup sup...
21:40<kminor>It snowed here today...I was wide eye'd like a kid when I woke up....
21:41<kminor>a few winters ago it snowed like one time in Kansas City...
21:41<kminor>...I couldn't stand it....the cold without any snow to bring funn...
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21:44<RaSeBo>hello, I can't seem to find the sensors-detect script on Debian Sid... any ideas? :)
21:44<RaSeBo>funny thing that i have the man pages installed
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21:45<kminor>Anyways, out of curiosity...I noticed that mkisofs preceeds genisofs...and I've only used mkisofs a few times in the past...what is the best way to image your system to an .iso file....with genisoimage?
21:45<kminor>And I mean an entire system backup, to dvd/cd if small enough
21:46<kminor>..and bootable..preferably.....anyone have any knowledge or suggestions relating to this subject?
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21:48<kminor>anybody?
21:49<kminor>RaSeBo: looks like someone got stoned while developing...I love sid...but forgetfulness hurts us all :) ..hehe, not that I've never done it...just saying..I had a package from an "unofficial" repository destroy my system awhile back
21:50<kminor>RaSeBo : have u checked the changelog and any online documentation to see if the cmd line script names have been changed?
21:51<RaSeBo>kminor, it's not big issue, i was wondering if it got moved from lm-sensors to another package or something
21:51<chealer>RaSeBo: you checked the BTS, right?
21:51<RaSeBo>kminor, that's what i'm checking now
21:51<kminor>hehe command lind script names..."script names"...to much time talking to some people hehe...
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21:52<kminor>RaSeBo : oh, I'm not sure....looks like everyone here is afk
21:52<RaSeBo>chealer, i just saw a bug filled that describes my problem
21:54<kminor>w00...I've only submitted about 30 or 40 bug reports...but i have to hand it to the maintainers...they fixed the problems in less than a month...
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21:55<kminor>Anyway know the best way to back up a small system to a bootable ISO?
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22:30<BoBo_BoSs>hy
22:30<BoBo_BoSs>how open ssh for local not for extern ?
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22:34<Solver>BoBo_BoSs: Use ListenAddress in /etc/sshd_config
22:34<Xenguy>Hi - I have installed deluge and want to experiment with a blocklist plug-in, but in the default debian install I just did there is no such plug-in listed...
22:35<Xenguy>I can't find any information on how to add it...
22:35<Xenguy>has anyone crossed this bridge before?
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22:58<istoc>Hi, I'm trying to do some programming in C. What package should I install to use lint? Thanks.
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23:01<kmap>istoc: Since nobody has answered, let me take a shot. Is splint OK?
23:02<istoc>kmap: That's just a newer one for C right?
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23:02<kmap>istoc: Supposedly a better lint?
23:03<odla>why is it that with pinning epiphany get updated from testing to unstable when testing is preferred?
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23:03<istoc>All I see is one for etch, how would I use it on lenny?
23:04<kmap>istoc: Get the sid one. :-)
23:05<istoc>Ok, I'll look up how to get it from etch. Thanks much kmap.
23:05<kmap>istoc: You could just get the deb and do dpkg -i <deb>
23:06<chealer>odla: when doing what?
23:06<istoc>dpkg -i [package name]?
23:06<dpkg>package [package name] is already installed
23:06<istoc>lolz
23:06<kmap>istoc: Sorry if I sounded wrong. :-)
23:07<odla>chealer: i ran apt-get install r-base/unstable and then when i ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade it wanted to upgrade epiphany-browser to the package in unstable. this is with testing set to 700 and unstable at 600 in preferences
23:07<kmap>istoc: I meant dpkg -i <downloaded_deb_file>... :-)
23:07<istoc>Oh
23:07<istoc>How do I get the .deb files? wget?
23:07<kmap>istoc: Use your browser! http://packages.debian.org/splint
23:08<istoc>Oh, that's pretty simple, thanks again
23:08<chealer>odla: which packages do you have from unstable?
23:08<kmap>istoc: No problems. Glad I could help.
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23:10<BoBo_BoSs>how open ssh for local and for extern clos in iptables ?
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23:12<istoc>BoBo_BoSs: all you need is the port for SSH and a tutorial. I'm not sure how to do it but I'm sure a google search would turn up some tutorials.
23:12<BoBo_BoSs>istoc
23:12<BoBo_BoSs>i have a firewall
23:13<BoBo_BoSs>and this firewall close all port
23:13<BoBo_BoSs>extern and local
23:13<BoBo_BoSs>how open all port for local ?
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23:14<istoc>I don't know. I know less than you heh.
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23:15<istoc>netsplit?
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23:16<MrJoey>istoc> No, dennis just smells awful :)
23:16<MrJoey>When he came in, a bunch of people left.
23:17<BoBo_BoSs>MrJoey
23:17<BoBo_BoSs>how resolv my probleme ?
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23:17<MrJoey>Sorry, I really don't know.
23:18<MrJoey>I don't know how to manipulate iptables. What is it you're trying to do again?
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23:19<istoc>kmap: How could I install the stable package though apt-get? I tried adding a line to sources.list for etch but I still can't install it.
23:19<kmap>istoc: Do this: apt-get update; apt-get install splint/etch
23:19<istoc>It also looks like it has some dependencies so it might be better to do it through a package manager
23:19<mike>mike, http://users.surfthe.us/supaplex/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
23:19<kmap>istoc: Fine. Try that.
23:20<istoc>Oh cool, thanks again
23:20<kmap>istoc: Yes, tell me if problems arise.
23:20<istoc>Should I comment out the line from etch before I do that?
23:20<mike>http://users.surfthe.us/supaplex/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
23:20<kmap>istoc: No!
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23:20<kmap>istoc: It should be there.
23:20<istoc>lol ok
23:20<istoc>Gimme a sec
23:21<istoc>Sigh it looks like it's trying to grab some etch packages even though I'm in testing
23:22<istoc>Should I let it do that?
23:22<kmap>istoc: Wait, let me check
23:22[~]kmap adds testing to his sources.list
23:22<istoc>Ok
23:22<istoc>You're on etch?
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23:29<istoc>How do you fix a netsplit?...
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23:56<GhostlyDeath>net split attacks
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23:56<K|NgGh0sT>I have an apt-get problem where its having dependancy problems, heres a log http://pastebin.ca/807983 wondering if anyone knows how to get around it
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