| --- | Log | opened Thu Dec 13 00:00:08 2007 |
| --- | Day | changed Thu Dec 13 2007 |
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| 00:50 | <MrFamS> | hi every 1 |
| 00:55 | <alaya> | hi |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | Alam_Debian |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | alaya |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | i wna install unrealircd on ma debian box |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | but command make |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | is not working :s well |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | make |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 00:55 | <kmap> | MrFamS: What type of error do you get? |
| 00:55 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Is there a ./configure script? |
| 00:55 | <MrFamS> | yeah i did |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | i wget the file |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | extract |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | then i did ./Config |
| 00:56 | <alaya> | read the README |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | ./configure is also not working |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | ./configure |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | You might want to run ./Config or provide some parameters to this script. |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | ./configure --help for information about this script |
| 00:56 | <kmap> | MrFamS: What error does ./configure give? |
| 00:56 | <alaya> | and INSTALL doc if there is one |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | i know how to install |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | i installed ircd many time on Other boxes |
| 00:56 | <MrFamS> | but neva installed on debian |
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| 00:57 | <alaya> | also try apt-get install build-essential for essential things |
| 00:57 | <MrFamS> | hmm |
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| 00:58 | <alaya> | oh, that'S only for building debian packages. sorry. |
| 00:58 | <MrFamS> | damn |
| 00:58 | <kmap> | alaya: No, good enough in general |
| 00:58 | <MrFamS> | Get:4 http://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main libc6-dev 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 [2717kB] |
| 00:58 | <MrFamS> | Get:5 http://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main libstdc++6-4.1-dev 4.1.1-21 [1634kB] |
| 00:58 | <MrFamS> | Get:6 http://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main g++-4.1 4.1.1-21 [2615kB] |
| 00:58 | <MrFamS> | 74% [6 g++-4.1 378054/2615kB 14%] |
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| 00:59 | <MrFamS> | am using :( |
| 00:59 | <kmap> | MrFamS: You need to list the right error ./configure gives. |
| 00:59 | <MrFamS> | what id o |
| 00:59 | <kmap> | Paste it on paste.debian.net if it is more than 3 lines |
| 01:00 | <MrFamS> | hmmm u want me to paste the |
| 01:00 | <MrFamS> | error or ./configure? |
| 01:00 | <kmap> | Output of ./configure to the screen |
| 01:00 | <MrFamS> | You might want to run ./Config or provide some parameters to this script. |
| 01:00 | <MrFamS> | ./configure --help for information about this script |
| 01:00 | <MrFamS> | this is a error |
| 01:00 | <MrFamS> | only |
| 01:01 | <kmap> | Hmmm |
| 01:01 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Sorry, I am unable to help. |
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| 01:01 | <MrFamS> | Damn |
| 01:01 | <MrFamS> | what i do with |
| 01:01 | <simonrvn> | !wayttd MrFamS |
| 01:01 | <dpkg> | What Are You Trying To Do, MrFamS? |
| 01:01 | <kmap> | MrFamS: But are you running ./Config, or ./configure? |
| 01:01 | <MrFamS> | who will help me in ? debian ? |
| 01:01 | <MrFamS> | i am trying to install unrealircd |
| 01:01 | <MrFamS> | i wget the url and extract and then use ./Config |
| 01:02 | <kmap> | MrFamS: OK, let me try |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | after this i am giving make and ./configure |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | both are not working :S |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | okey |
| 01:02 | <simonrvn> | you run configure first then make... |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | yeah ./Config work |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | but |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | ./configure and make |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | is not working :s |
| 01:02 | <MrFamS> | its give error |
| 01:02 | <simonrvn> | you run whatever is actually present o_O |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | yeah |
| 01:03 | <alaya> | paste the error to pastebin.ca |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | which error ? |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | There is only 1 line error |
| 01:03 | <alaya> | all the output |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | when i write ./configure |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | the error show |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | You might want to run ./Config or provide some parameters to this script. |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | ./configure --help for information about this script |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | and when i do make |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 01:03 | <MrFamS> | its say |
| 01:04 | <alaya> | did you run ./Config? |
| 01:04 | <MrFamS> | Yeah |
| 01:04 | <MrFamS> | i did this |
| 01:04 | <alaya> | was there an error? |
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| 01:04 | <MrFamS> | yeah |
| 01:04 | <MrFamS> | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
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| 01:05 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Ah! |
| 01:05 | <alaya> | oh |
| 01:05 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Then simple. apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:05 | <alaya> | do you have gcc installed? apt-get install gcc |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | i did |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | maybe yeah |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | which gcc |
| 01:05 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Finish that build-essential command |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | hmm /usr/bin/gcc |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | i did |
| 01:05 | <kmap> | MrFamS: You are missing libc6-dev |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | yeah kmap its finished |
| 01:05 | <MrFamS> | how i get this ? |
| 01:05 | <kmap> | MrFamS: apt-get install libc6-dev? |
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| 01:06 | <James296> | how can I get Compiz Fusion on Simply Mepis? why is everything so outdated in the latest version of it? |
| 01:06 | <simonrvn> | !not debian |
| 01:06 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 01:07 | <kmap> | MrFamS: It just works for me |
| 01:07 | <James296> | well? |
| 01:07 | <gsimmons> | !tell James296 -about mepis |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | hmmm |
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| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | dear |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | libc is completed |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | what id o |
| 01:08 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Run ./Config again. |
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| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | ty |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | kmap thanks alot brother |
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| 01:08 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Did it work? |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | Yeah |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | now i can install unreal ma self :0 |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | thanks alot :0 |
| 01:08 | <MrFamS> | luv u |
| 01:08 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Good. :-) |
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| 01:09 | <MrFamS> | i wana install debian in ma home pc too |
| 01:09 | <MrFamS> | but i dont have m uch info about it |
| 01:09 | <MrFamS> | its good for home use > |
| 01:09 | <MrFamS> | ? |
| 01:10 | <alaya> | MrFamS: http://wiki.debian.org |
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| 01:10 | <kmap> | MrFamS: We all use it at home as well! ;-) |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | hmmmmm really ? |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | from where i can get it cd or setup ? |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | well i am using windows |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | is that possible to save ma all drive and install |
| 01:11 | <kmap> | MrFamS: www.goodbye-microsoft.com |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | coz mostly when we install linux its remove our all hd data :S |
| 01:11 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Nope. You can do dual boot. |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | Really |
| 01:11 | <MrFamS> | how ? |
| 01:12 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Goodle that, please. Many howots exist |
| 01:12 | <kmap> | Google that |
| 01:12 | <MrFamS> | hmmm |
| 01:12 | <MrFamS> | its mean |
| 01:12 | <MrFamS> | i can install both in ma pc |
| 01:12 | <MrFamS> | and run any one i want |
| 01:12 | <MrFamS> | when i start pc |
| 01:13 | <kmap> | MrFamS: Yes |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | nice |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | the we4bsite u gave |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | goodbye |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | its showing 1 file |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | with name debian |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | 175 kb |
| 01:13 | <MrFamS> | :S |
| 01:14 | <MrFamS> | k4k |
| 01:14 | <MrFamS> | kmap |
| 01:14 | <MrFamS> | u can help me withunrealircd.conf ? |
| 01:15 | <k4k> | MrFamS? |
| 01:15 | <alaya> | no this is #debian see /topic |
| 01:15 | <MrFamS> | yes |
| 01:15 | <MrFamS> | aah sorry |
| 01:15 | <alaya> | try #linux maybe for general help |
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| 01:22 | <MrFamS> | kmap |
| 01:22 | <MrFamS> | checking whether build environment is sane... configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! |
| 01:22 | <MrFamS> | see this :S |
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| 01:25 | <MrFamS> | k4k |
| 01:25 | <MrFamS> | am again getting one error |
| 01:25 | <MrFamS> | when i do ./Config |
| 01:25 | <MrFamS> | in the last of compiling i get one error new |
| 01:27 | <MrFamS> | kmap plzz help me |
| 01:27 | <MrFamS> | dpkg |
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| 01:30 | <MrFamS> | how i set ma system clock ? |
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| 01:30 | <streuner_> | !set time |
| 01:30 | <dpkg> | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
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| 01:37 | <MrFamS> | not working :( |
| 01:37 | <MrFamS> | date --set |
| 01:37 | <MrFamS> | dpkg am new in this :s |
| 01:37 | <MrFamS> | can u explain how to set time |
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| 01:38 | <dondelelcaro> | !set the time |
| 01:38 | <dpkg> | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
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| 01:42 | <MrFamS> | ty dpkg |
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| 01:46 | <qiyong> | how to show an installed package's infomation? besides apt-cache show |
| 01:46 | <MrFamS> | hmmm |
| 01:46 | <MrFamS> | dpkg how i know how much ips are added in ma box ? |
| 01:46 | <dpkg> | I think you lost me on that one, MrFamS |
| 01:46 | <MrFamS> | cat /etc/host |
| 01:46 | <streuner_> | dondelelcaro: hm |
| 01:47 | <streuner_> | qiyong: whats wrong with apt-cache show <package>? |
| 01:47 | <streuner_> | qiyong: packages.debian.org |
| 01:47 | <qiyong> | streuner_: i wonder if there's a dpkg level tool for that |
| 01:48 | <streuner_> | qiyong: apt-get is to download the packages for your system and resolve depends, dpkg is for manipulationg them and install it... |
| 01:48 | <streuner_> | dpkg, what are you? |
| 01:48 | <dpkg> | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 01:49 | <qiyong> | streuner_: how to extract info with dpkg on installed package |
| 01:49 | <MrFamS> | dpkg |
| 01:49 | <MrFamS> | ? |
| 01:49 | <streuner_> | qiyong: why do you want "dpkg" to do that in the first place? |
| 01:49 | <MrFamS> | how i know how much ips are aded in ma box what i do ? |
| 01:50 | <qiyong> | streuner_: apt-cache works itself? |
| 01:50 | <streuner_> | good question :-) |
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| 01:50 | <streuner_> | !find apt-cache |
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| 01:50 | <dpkg> | Debian Search of 'apt-cache' (5 of 7): (/usr/bin/apt-cache) in admin/apt ;; (/usr/share/fish/completions/apt-cache.fish) in shells/fish ;; (/usr/share/doc/libapt-pkg-perl/examples/apt-cache) in perl/libapt-pkg-perl ;; (/usr/share/doc/med-doc/talks/200210_lux_internal/apt-cache.png) in doc/med-doc ;; (/usr/sbin/apt-cacher, /etc/init.d/apt-cacher, /etc/default/apt-cacher) in net/apt-cacher. |
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| 01:51 | <streuner_> | knusper:/home/user# dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-cache |
| 01:51 | <streuner_> | aptituz: /usr/bin/apt-cache |
| 01:51 | <streuner_> | apt, of course |
| 01:52 | <streuner_> | qiyong: you dont have apt installed on that box? |
| 01:52 | <streuner_> | or dpkg? |
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| 01:54 | <streuner_> | tell us the *real* problem, our crystal thingie is in low stat ;-) |
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| 02:04 | <MrAlk3> | i need some help figuring out how to get mysql installed. it installs and then does not finish the configure process, leaving it broken when the initscripts attemtp to run the start process |
| 02:04 | <MrAlk3> | http://pastebin.com/d1b7ac003 |
| 02:04 | <MrAlk3> | that is where I am at |
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| 02:06 | <alaya> | its just saying it couldn't start it |
| 02:07 | <alaya> | check the log to find out why |
| 02:07 | <alaya> | /var/log/my.... |
| 02:07 | <MrAlk3> | ok, sec |
| 02:09 | <streuner_> | MrAlk3: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 02:09 | <MrAlk3> | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 02:09 | <MrAlk3> | mysql logs are empty since it has not started yet |
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| 02:12 | <alaya> | i don't know, maybe try daemon log or syslog |
| 02:14 | <streuner_> | MrAlk3: what does "apt-cache policy <package>" say about |
| 02:14 | <streuner_> | !paste |
| 02:14 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 02:15 | <MrAlk3> | streuner_: i found out the problem |
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| 02:16 | <MrAlk3> | i am running a vps that has 128MB ram and the host doesnt allow swap or burstable ram. it doesnt have enough ram for mysql to start |
| 02:17 | <MrAlk3> | sorry for the waste of time. it appears though that i am not the only customer to miss this detail in the specs on these vps plans |
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| 02:22 | <MrAlk3> | thanks for the help |
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| 02:56 | <wolfaba> | hi all. Can anyone describe me the difference between linux-image-2.6.18-3, linux-image-2.6.18-4 and linux-2.6.18-5 kernels? Is it good to use linux-image-2.6.18-3 if 2.6.18-5 is available? |
| 02:58 | <streuner_> | read changelog (Debian) |
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| 02:58 | <the-dude> | wolfaba: where are you going to get 2.6.18-3? |
| 02:59 | <alaya> | wolfaba: probably they are security updates |
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| 03:02 | <ameyer> | 2.6.18-3 must be a kernel from when etch was testing |
| 03:02 | <wolfaba> | streuner_: Hmmm, I try ... I mean, 2.6.18-5 and 2.6.18-4 are two different packages with different debian package version with different set of security upgrades. |
| 03:03 | <ameyer> | and there have been security updates that didn't bump the number in the package name |
| 03:04 | <wolfaba> | hmmm, we have a few servers with 2.6.18-3-xen-686 and any with 2.6.18-5-xen-686. For 2.6.18-5-xen are updates (IMHO very) often. For 2.6.18-3-xen was not so much. I want to stay up-to-date, but it's a little hard to move all running XEN guests to other machines to update all XEN servers. |
| 03:04 | <apache_dummy> | I installed apache2. I changed permissions so that a user other than root can write into the /var/www/ directory. I created a new index.html page there but it still shows the default page you get after the first installation of Apache. what am I doing wrong? Thanks. |
| 03:04 | <wolfaba> | (hmm, but we cannot use 2.6.18-3-xen because of pae and bigmem) |
| 03:05 | <chealer> | wolfaba: yes. not without a good reason. |
| 03:05 | <the-dude> | I can't find 2.6.18-3-xen so this might be a good time too upgrade to a recent kernel |
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| 03:07 | <wolfaba> | apache_dummy: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default you have to disable the redirect "RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/" |
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| 03:09 | <wolfaba> | the-dude: you are right - I want to upgrade -3-xen to -5-xen, because of bigmem. So the difference in 2.6.18-5 and 2.6.18-4? |
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| 03:13 | <apache_dummy> | wolfaba: Thanks I will check that. |
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| 03:16 | <apache_dummy> | wolfaba: to disable it what should I do? insert the # character before that line? |
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| 03:19 | <wolfaba> | apache_dummy: yes, comment is enough .. |
| 03:19 | <wolfaba> | apache_dummy: ## |
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| 03:20 | <wolfaba> | apache_dummy: and do not forget to /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 03:21 | <wolfaba> | apache_dummy: reload configuration |
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| 03:21 | <apache_dummy> | wolfaba: I added ## before the word Redirect |
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| 03:23 | <apache_dummy> | wolfaba: I still see the same page Apache2 default page. |
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| 03:24 | <whosyourdaddy> | hi |
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| 03:28 | <norbert_> | hi, I have a hardware comp. question, I've looked it up, but I'm hoping to get verification before I buy |
| 03:28 | <norbert_> | I have an on-board chip for video now, and I want to buy either the ati radeon 9250 or the nvidia fx 5200 |
| 03:28 | <norbert_> | the latter seems to be the better choice for linux... correct? |
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| 03:28 | <alaya> | ati is fucked |
| 03:29 | <alaya> | their driver, fglrx, is a piece of crap |
| 03:29 | <norbert_> | yeah, so nvidia fx 5200 would be the better choice of those two |
| 03:29 | <alaya> | i suppose its supported by the nvidia driver |
| 03:29 | <alaya> | /msg dpkg nvidia for more info on setting up their cards |
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| 03:30 | <alaya> | ideally, get a card from neither, that doesn't require proprietary firmware |
| 03:31 | <norbert_> | I was planing to just reinstall Debian stable, wouldn't that automatically give me the right settings and drivers for X? |
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| 03:32 | <alaya> | not for either of those 2 because of the proprietary drivers |
| 03:32 | <sooperkuh> | hey! don't knock the Radeon 9250! |
| 03:32 | <alaya> | read the dpkg info... |
| 03:32 | <alaya> | i knock anything that uses fglrx! |
| 03:32 | <alaya> | worthless garbage! |
| 03:32 | <sooperkuh> | it's got a perfectly working *free* driver! With 3D. Unlike the nvidia |
| 03:33 | <sooperkuh> | I am typing this on a display, that uses one. |
| 03:33 | <norbert_> | sooperkuh: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/ati-radeon-9250-driver-383625/ |
| 03:33 | <alaya> | hmmm ati free driver on my ati card is not DRI capable |
| 03:33 | <alaya> | still, i wouldn't support them with my money |
| 03:33 | <sooperkuh> | alaya: on mine it is, a 9250 |
| 03:33 | <whosyourdaddy> | :-) |
| 03:34 | <whosyourdaddy> | 9250 ? |
| 03:34 | <norbert_> | ehm, so now I'm back to start... which one is better? |
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| 03:34 | <alaya> | read all the endless discussions on /. about what a PITA ati are for linux users |
| 03:34 | <sooperkuh> | Radeon 9250 |
| 03:34 | <sooperkuh> | haha ... yeah, slashdot is teh place when it comes to factual information ; ) |
| 03:35 | <norbert_> | sooperkuh thinks Radeon 9250 is better, alaya thinks their driver is a piece of crap |
| 03:35 | <norbert_> | and then there is http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/ati-radeon-9250-driver-383625/ |
| 03:35 | <norbert_> | with someone saying "It is Jan 07 and linux still does not like this graphics card." |
| 03:35 | <alaya> | norbert_: no, i think ATI is crap and will never support them |
| 03:35 | <sooperkuh> | that linuxquestions site is slow, wow |
| 03:35 | <alaya> | i would get nvidia. they tend to be higher-end anyways. |
| 03:36 | <norbert_> | I don't care about ATI or any company, I just want it to work |
| 03:36 | <alaya> | on mobile platforms they blow ati away clearly |
| 03:36 | <norbert_> | I want to buy either of those cards, reinstall Debian and see that X works fine |
| 03:36 | <norbert_> | ;-) |
| 03:36 | <norbert_> | I will go to the store in about 1 hour, I just need to pick a card |
| 03:36 | <alaya> | seriously though, i'd get an intel or some other chipset if i didn't particularly care about graphics |
| 03:36 | <whosyourdaddy> | money.... |
| 03:37 | <sooperkuh> | it is a shame that intel does not make plug-in cards |
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| 03:37 | <alaya> | sis maybe. i don't know if they still make cards. |
| 03:37 | <norbert_> | sooperkuh: do you agree with alaya, that I should get the nvidia fx 5200? |
| 03:38 | <peter_> | alaya, not as far ago (about 3 months) I read about ati statment - they are going to release new drivers for linux |
| 03:38 | <alaya> | peter_: i read that also. and it was discussed on /. and in other forums, and the latest release from them was still shit |
| 03:38 | <whosyourdaddy> | ha |
| 03:38 | <whosyourdaddy> | ~~~ |
| 03:38 | [~] | dpkg gets dizzzzzy |
| 03:39 | <alaya> | peter_: it was just an empty press-release unfortunately |
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| 03:39 | <peter_> | alaya, hope you are wrong :) |
| 03:39 | <sooperkuh> | norbert: well it depends really what is more important to you. With the Radeon 9250 you get a cheap card, that uses a quite old chip, and that is supported just fine in Linux, with a free driver |
| 03:39 | <alaya> | which only infuriated the linux people more |
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| 03:39 | <norbert_> | by the way, this is the reason I'm getting a new card: |
| 03:39 | <norbert_> | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154/comments/92 |
| 03:39 | <norbert_> | (whole thread) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154 |
| 03:39 | <sooperkuh> | and a free driver means no messing around with binary crap that always makes trouble when updating etc. |
| 03:40 | <peter_> | norbert_, 9250 is cheap card : ), buy another and the old one put to some hardware :) |
| 03:40 | <norbert_> | well, the radeon is 30 euro, the nvidia is 40 euro, so money is not the issue here |
| 03:40 | <sooperkuh> | on the other hand, it might be, that the free driver does not get 100% performance out of the card (read: it may be slower than the windows driver) |
| 03:41 | <alaya> | get a SiS card |
| 03:41 | <sooperkuh> | on the other hand the nvidia might be faster (though I doubt it matters for most linux apps), but you get all the problems of a binary driver |
| 03:41 | <streuner_> | most SiS chip are in the mobo itself... |
| 03:41 | <norbert_> | mobo? |
| 03:41 | <streuner_> | motherboard |
| 03:41 | <norbert_> | ah |
| 03:41 | <sooperkuh> | mother board |
| 03:42 | <Hideo_Kuze> | motherbroad |
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| 03:42 | <alaya> | yo mofo |
| 03:42 | <streuner_> | in my experience they just work fine, dunno if they support 3D |
| 03:42 | <peter_> | norbert_, in my country gigabyte 9250 cost 22,8 euro :) |
| 03:42 | <streuner_> | (driver) |
| 03:42 | <sooperkuh> | when I look at the linuxquestions site linked above, it says as much btw: |
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| 03:43 | <sooperkuh> | I'm running Fedora Core 6. It worked good with whatever generic drivers come with this distro, but it wasn't performing as well as it did when I used Windows. So I decided to download the ATI driver from the Livna |
| 03:43 | <muep_> | norbert_: my radeon X300 works great without any manual configuration on most linux distros |
| 03:43 | <peter_> | muep_, cause you are using open drivers on x300 :) |
| 03:43 | <muep_> | yes |
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| 03:43 | <muep_> | just wanted to give a positive example |
| 03:43 | <sooperkuh> | muep_: but radeon 9250 should be even less of a problem, it is the last one with a well-tested free driver |
| 03:43 | <peter_> | muep_, ah I see :) |
| 03:44 | <norbert_> | okay, I'm picking the 9250 |
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| 03:44 | <norbert_> | then I have a free apt-driver and it should work immediately when I reinstall Debian |
| 03:45 | <muep_> | norbert_: yes |
| 03:45 | <peter_> | alaya norbert_ meup sooperkuh my friend working on 9700 with fglrx, beryl on a board |
| 03:45 | <muep_> | X300 also runs compiz if I want |
| 03:45 | <peter_> | alaya norbert_ meup sooperkuh on ubuntu |
| 03:45 | <peter_> | meup x300 has open driver :) |
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| 03:46 | <jonimadrid> | hiii |
| 03:46 | <norbert_> | cool, I'm off to the store, buying a new card, thanks for the information guys (and girls, if any) |
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| 03:46 | <muep_> | peter_: yes, I do use the open driver |
| 03:46 | <peter_> | meup and thats why x300 works with compiz fine ;) |
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| 04:30 | <subha> | hi all |
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| 04:30 | <subha> | is there any tool/way by which i can impose some authentication mechanism against some event?suppose,i want gnome should ask my login-passwd when i want to shutdown my system.is there any idea? |
| 04:32 | <orjan> | I'm looking for a disk based backup system to backup a windows server. At first look dervish seems good, but there are several. Anyone here that can recomend a package? |
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| 04:41 | <the-dude> | orjan: backuppc |
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| 04:44 | <orjan> | the-dude: I looka at it a bit seems bigger than dervish, any special advantage? |
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| 04:55 | <the-dude> | easy to configure flexible |
| 04:56 | <the-dude> | orjan: there are just so many ways, for example mount, ssh, rsync |
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| 05:20 | <panv> | i want to use a local folder as sources location for my apt distribution list.. what do i add to sources.list ???? |
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| 05:21 | <akadna> | hi |
| 05:21 | <alaya> | panv: check out apt-proxy |
| 05:22 | <akadna> | Can anyone help me with my problem....I copied my debian server (running in vmware), and changed the hostname and ip. All is running well, but |
| 05:22 | <akadna> | When i from server02, do 'ping server01' i got 127.0.0.1... |
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| 05:23 | <alaya> | akadna: check /etc/hosts |
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| 05:23 | <akadna> | it's changed to server02 |
| 05:23 | <stevem_> | Lo, I'm running the x64 debian etch and I need libssl for 32bit - which isn't in etch, what a pain |
| 05:23 | <akadna> | no wait |
| 05:23 | <akadna> | omg....damm |
| 05:23 | <stevem_> | So I was thinking would getting the ia32-libs from testing help? if so, how do I get just that one package in? |
| 05:23 | <akadna> | correct, it's contains server01 :-)= |
| 05:24 | <akadna> | Thanks ! |
| 05:24 | <alaya> | akadna: don't forget to change /etc/hostname |
| 05:25 | <akadna> | It's changed in hostname...but i didnt know that i also need to changed in /etc/hosts |
| 05:25 | <Gekz> | are hugs offtopic/ |
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| 05:25 | <stevem_> | Anyone have any ideas? Please! |
| 05:25 | <alaya> | akadna: you may also want to regenerate ssh keys... |
| 05:25 | <avtobiff> | hugs, the haskell interpretor?! |
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| 05:25 | <akadna> | alaya: ehmm...i don't use any keys |
| 05:25 | <Gekz> | no |
| 05:25 | <Gekz> | hugs the human interaction |
| 05:26 | <avtobiff> | don't know of it |
| 05:26 | [~] | weasel hugs Gekz. |
| 05:26 | <weasel> | now shut up and stay on topic |
| 05:26 | <Gekz> | xD |
| 05:26 | <stevem_> | :( |
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| 05:27 | <alaya> | akadna: you never ssh? |
| 05:27 | <akadna> | A new problem...before server01 and server02 was using dhcp, but i changed it to static ip. But when i do 'ping server01' i got the old dhcp ip... |
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| 05:27 | <akadna> | alaya: yes, but i just type usr/pass eachtime... |
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| 05:27 | <alaya> | akadna: you still need new keys in /etc/ssh i think |
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| 05:28 | <akadna> | alaya: I don't got any problems with ssh ? |
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| 05:29 | <akadna> | do i need to 'release' the DHCP ip from the servers or anything? |
| 05:29 | <SpeedyG> | akadna: might be that your dns still has the old ip for server01 |
| 05:29 | <akadna> | aka: /flushdns in windows |
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| 05:30 | <alaya> | what is responding to the queries? a dns server? |
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| 05:30 | <akadna> | yes i think so, if I ping the server01 from another computer i also got the old dhcp ip. But how can the server01/02 tell the dns sever, that it got a new ip ? |
| 05:30 | <alaya> | otherwise, just update the hosts file |
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| 05:31 | <alaya> | probably because you didn't relaese the leases from the dns server before changing the IP addresses |
| 05:32 | <akadna> | alaya: I guess you'r right, just changed the /etc/network/interfaces and reboot the server. Can i do anything now? |
| 05:32 | <alaya> | akadna: i guess its an issue w/ the dns/dhcp servers |
| 05:32 | <SpeedyG> | rebooted for what ? o_0 |
| 05:33 | <alaya> | as i said, i would just use a hosts file instead |
| 05:33 | <akadna> | ye just force the entry in it ? |
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| 05:33 | <alaya> | man hosts |
| 05:34 | <alaya> | its not forcing anything - its an assignment of names to IP addresses |
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| 05:34 | <SpeedyG> | (and also the first thing your OS looks for name resolution iirc) |
| 05:35 | <alaya> | you can change the order of resolution in nsswitch.conf |
| 05:35 | <SpeedyG> | ah :) |
| 05:35 | <SpeedyG> | didnt know that :) |
| 05:35 | <SpeedyG> | (as you might have guessed ;) ) |
| 05:35 | <akadna> | yes this will fix the problem on server02. But iisent there a way for server02 to tell/broadcast the dns server that it got a new ip ? |
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| 05:36 | <SpeedyG> | akadna: usually, updating dns records happens every X minutes/hours, depending on how the dns is setup |
| 05:36 | <alaya> | put static host stanzas in your dns config |
| 05:36 | <alaya> | there are also dynamic systems which i don't know about |
| 05:40 | <akadna> | could it be dhclient -r ? |
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| 05:57 | <alaya> | stevem_: in general you shouldn't run any testing stuff on etch, but you could backport it... |
| 05:58 | <alaya> | stevem_: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 05:58 | <m_g> | hey guys, got a weird problem: du -sh /var prints "1,1 G" while df -h says "2,8G 2,5G 140M 95% /var" (so 2,5G in use) .. how can that be? |
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| 05:59 | <eduardo> | the sound here don't work.."menssage do aRts |sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver device: default can't be opened for playback(no such device) |
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| 06:00 | <alaya> | !tell eduardo about alsa checklist |
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| 06:02 | <eduardo> | alsaconf: command not found |
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| 06:05 | <alaya> | !tell eduardo about alsa |
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| 06:05 | <Kebianizao> | Hello |
| 06:05 | <alaya> | alsa-install |
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| 06:06 | <eduardo> | oh, thanks...i use alsa-utils and now have alsaconf |
| 06:06 | <Kebianizao> | anyone has upgraded/tested 2.6.23? I'm not having a good experience with it (tough it works) and I would like to hear some opinions |
| 06:06 | <berto> | been using 2.6.23.1 for some weeks |
| 06:06 | <berto> | no problem |
| 06:07 | <alaya> | using all day today :-) except for iwlwifi issue no probs |
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| 06:07 | <Kebianizao> | berto: I mean, it works, but quite a lot less responsive |
| 06:07 | <klando> | no issue |
| 06:07 | <Kebianizao> | alaya: iwlwifi works for me |
| 06:07 | <klando> | Kebianizao, perhaps... not benched ... |
| 06:08 | <berto> | I haven't noticed anything strange |
| 06:08 | <berto> | but I have a core 2 anyway, everything is fast here |
| 06:08 | <berto> | :) |
| 06:08 | <alaya> | Kebianizao: i had to edit persistent-net-rules file to re-create the correct entry, but then iface came up but would not get dhcp lease for some reason |
| 06:08 | <alaya> | Kebianizao: perhaps i should have tried pump instead of dhclient |
| 06:08 | <Kebianizao> | when I do disk I/O system could keep up 2 five seconds almost stalled, for example, I can move mouse pointer but I can't change window and redraw is stopped |
| 06:09 | <Kebianizao> | berto: same here, but I notice it when doing big transfers |
| 06:09 | <Kebianizao> | BTW it seems it's only me that's having this kind of issues |
| 06:10 | <Kebianizao> | alaya: well if you mean the proble is the interface name, I have that problem, but net works, even dhclient |
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| 06:10 | <Kebianizao> | funny thing is that I'm experiencing same behaviour on 2 different laptops and OC in the older one it behaves even worst |
| 06:10 | <alaya> | Kebianizao: not sure. it didn't work with my custom 2.6.24-rc4 kernel either in the same way. i'm just going to keep using the old driver for a while |
| 06:11 | <Kebianizao> | I also build it using the maximum preemption and lower latency but , no way |
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| 06:15 | <norbert_> | hi all, I got the ati card and it works great (didn't have to reinstall everything; simply ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) |
| 06:15 | <norbert_> | finally the GL screensavers are fast, hehe |
| 06:16 | <stevem_> | alaya, I can't even see libssl in ia32-libs 2.2 (which is both lenny and sid I think) |
| 06:16 | <stevem_> | so how on earth are you supposed to use the 32bit openssl libs on a 64bit debian!? |
| 06:17 | <alaya> | no idea. maybe ask on the amd64 mailing list |
| 06:17 | <alaya> | or maybe they have a chan |
| 06:17 | <sooperkuh> | norbert_: good it worked! |
| 06:17 | <norbert_> | yeah ;-) |
| 06:18 | <m_g> | hey guys, got a weird problem: du -sh /var prints "1,1 G" while df -h says "2,8G 2,5G 140M 95% /var" (so 2,5G in use) .. how can that be? |
| 06:18 | <alaya> | 2600.757 FPS |
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| 06:23 | <klando> | m_g reserved block |
| 06:24 | <klando> | usually 5% of ext3 |
| 06:24 | <klando> | well it does explain a 50% |
| 06:24 | <klando> | not |
| 06:24 | <m_g> | hm right |
| 06:24 | <m_g> | could an application have "reserved" disk space somehow? |
| 06:25 | <m_g> | like mysql? |
| 06:25 | <klando> | sure, but then it is allocated |
| 06:25 | <klando> | 2.6.23 just include fallocate |
| 06:26 | <klando> | m_g I *think* it is time for you to do an fsck |
| 06:27 | <klando> | 'cause, (from my poor memory) I think one just find. and add the effective size of files, and the other use an fs reference to the size used |
| 06:27 | <m_g> | klando, hm that would require to unmount the partiton, right? |
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| 06:28 | <alaya> | yes |
| 06:28 | <m_g> | that's so weird.. i just deleted 100MB ob apache logs and df -h still shows the same disk space in use! |
| 06:29 | <m_g> | or much rather the same free amount |
| 06:31 | <alaya> | kill switch time... bye! |
| 06:31 | <klando> | m_g if you can not unmount now but have space on other disk you can: move the var dir, or dd the /var partition from /dev/sdxX, then fsck the image you get |
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| 06:32 | <m_g> | klando, i thought about that but i guess things like mysql wouldn't like that? |
| 06:32 | <m_g> | if i just copy their lib/mysql, link it and then restart mysql |
| 06:32 | <klando> | mysql..don't ask me ...it willprobably give you issue anyway :-D |
| 06:32 | <m_g> | :) |
| 06:33 | <klando> | m_g you'll just need to set the correct right on the directory |
| 06:34 | <klando> | and usualy you ln -s in /var/ |
| 06:34 | <klando> | or you switch in da conf |
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| 06:34 | <m_g> | hm guess i need to do that if i don't find a way around |
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| 06:34 | <m_g> | google showd "There are some instances where df would output a bigger disk usage than du. The most common instance is when a process has opened a huge file and that same file is deleted with rm. Technically, the file still exists because a process still has an open file descriptor associated with that file. An example is presented below. " but i can't imagine which process that could be |
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| 06:35 | <kiappa> | ciao a tutti |
| 06:35 | <kiappa> | !list |
| 06:35 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to kiappa |
| 06:35 | <seanius> | m_g if you really carede you could use lsof to find out |
| 06:35 | <m_g> | seanius, got an example for me? |
| 06:35 | <seanius> | or rebooting will probably close the file :) |
| 06:36 | <m_g> | heh |
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| 06:36 | <kiappa> | ! list |
| 06:36 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to kiappa |
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| 06:37 | <m_g> | i'm really running out of disk space in short time so i will first move the mysql dir to another partition |
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| 06:37 | <sPiCy`> | Yep all |
| 06:38 | <seanius> | m_g i don't off the top of my head, but maybe google does |
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| 06:39 | <seanius> | m_g: makes sense, just remember to stop mysql first |
| 06:39 | <m_g> | seanius, yep i did :) |
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| 06:41 | <m_g> | hell the mv is slow |
| 06:41 | <m_g> | damned raid |
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| 06:42 | <m_g> | but it worked, great |
| 06:42 | <m_g> | another 800mb to be eaten up :) |
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| 06:59 | <padski> | (XEN) MCE: The hardware reports a non fatal, correctable incident occurred on CPU 0. |
| 06:59 | <padski> | (XEN) Bank 1: 9400000000000151 |
| 06:59 | <padski> | Is that telling me about a memory error ? |
| 06:59 | <akadna> | Can anyone help me a question about how to disable the netbios/bcast ? |
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| 07:01 | <padski> | and that was the last thing it said :-( |
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| 07:03 | <akadna> | who me ? |
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| 07:05 | <themill> | !wb |
| 07:05 | <dpkg> | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
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| 07:09 | <Icekiller> | http://www.phpriot.com/6100 <-- yet the audio usb won't work |
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| 07:14 | <Kebianizao> | akadna: that should be caused by netbios daemon, nmbd, just disable it |
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| 07:21 | <klando> | m_g, lsof and fuser are good to catch open files |
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| 07:22 | <the-dude> | akadna: check samba , or add iptables rules |
| 07:23 | <ksp> | hi all |
| 07:23 | <ksp> | i am in debian etch |
| 07:24 | <ksp> | and i am trying to install the SGS Thomson Microelectornics Softmodem drivers |
| 07:24 | <ksp> | slmodem-2.9.11-20070813 |
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| 07:25 | <ksp> | but while installing I am getting an error message like |
| 07:25 | <ksp> | FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module slusb.ko uses GPL-only symbol 'paravirt_ops' |
| 07:25 | <ksp> | what must be the problem ? |
| 07:25 | <polm> | I don't have an AP, but I would like to setup a 54mb peer-to-peer WiFi net between two Debian nodes. So far I can only get an 11mb ad-hoc going. Any ideas? |
| 07:26 | <Kebianizao> | ksp: the kernel module should be using a non-GPL license and kernel prevents that, since it's GPL |
| 07:26 | <Kebianizao> | polm: use better antennas |
| 07:26 | <ksp> | Kebianizao, how to solve this ? |
| 07:26 | <polm> | haha |
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| 07:27 | <Kebianizao> | ksp: not easy, your are doing something legally doubious, but IAML |
| 07:27 | <Kebianizao> | sorry, IANAL |
| 07:28 | <Kebianizao> | ksp: the only way I could think of is building the kernel yourself and making it to avoid that check |
| 07:28 | <padski> | ksp: I am not a lawyer either, but I don't see how the GPL would prevent you from using the code in this way. |
| 07:28 | <Kebianizao> | or maybe look for another driver |
| 07:29 | <Kebianizao> | padski: AFAIK, there were some change regarding that into kernel, making it to "suggest" modules linked against it to follow the GPL, but I believe that was after 2.6.18, I mean not so early |
| 07:30 | <Kebianizao> | padski: you are supposed to follow GPL if you want to load a kernel aginst Linux GPLed code |
| 07:30 | <Kebianizao> | I believe |
| 07:30 | <Kebianizao> | at least I would do ;) |
| 07:30 | <padski> | Kebianizao: sorry, I was unclear. I mean from a legal point of view. It doesn't surprise me that the technical obstacle is there, and I can see the point about supportability. |
| 07:30 | <Kebianizao> | but this doesn't solve ksp question |
| 07:31 | <Kebianizao> | padski: well, there shouldn't be any technical problem, and that's what I tried to suggest. You can take the kernel code and remove that restriction |
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| 07:32 | <padski> | Kebianizao: indeed. The fact that you would need to do that is the technical obstacle. |
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| 07:34 | <padski> | and from a legal point of view the GPL2 deals with distribution, not use. |
| 07:36 | <Kebianizao> | yep :) |
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| 07:51 | <cyrax> | hi all. I need some help regarding a tiny project that I am working on. I have a laptop NEC Versa Lite Fxi. It does not have an HDD, cannot boot from anything other than the CDRom drive. I would like to boot the system off of a CD and then hand it over to a usb flash drive for completely booting in Debian. BTW Grub cannot recognise the USB devices @ boot time. |
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| 07:55 | <klando> | cyrax perhaps debian live is for you, or that link : http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/grub_intro/ |
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| 07:59 | <cyrax> | klando, the system does not detect USB devices @ boot time. I cannot boot from anything other than a CDR. I do not want to have the OS residing on the CDR because that would mean the CDR is constantly spinning |
| 08:00 | <edthefox_> | cyrax: Is the hdd missing or does the device just not have one? |
| 08:00 | <E0x> | cyrax: have pxe ? |
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| 08:01 | <E0x> | you can try a network boot |
| 08:01 | <cyrax> | the HDD connector on the mobo is broken. So I cannot replace it with a CF card or another HDD. |
| 08:01 | <cyrax> | E0x, no pxe :( |
| 08:02 | <cyrax> | Essentially I want to use this computer as, say a digital photo frame or a file server. |
| 08:02 | <cyrax> | the LCD is pretty good. |
| 08:04 | <E0x> | maybe doing you own live cd and add the / using the usb |
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| 08:06 | <cyrax> | E0x, could you give me some links or pointers as to how I can get started on that? |
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| 08:07 | <cyrax> | I tried SLAX and that was more or less exactly what I wanted. A tiny CD with a basic kernel boots up and then looks for a slax installation on a USB device. |
| 08:07 | <E0x> | cyrax: i can give you link about make you own cd live the usb part you will need find out , i known technical is possible but i never read o do something like that |
| 08:08 | <E0x> | cyrax: you can you the same script that used slax for doing they live cd |
| 08:08 | <cyrax> | LiveCD right? |
| 08:08 | <E0x> | yes |
| 08:08 | <cyrax> | ok |
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| 08:08 | <E0x> | cyrax: http://www.linux-live.org/ |
| 08:09 | <cyrax> | biggest hurdle though, is how does the cd discover the USB drive. I do not know how this hand off happens. |
| 08:09 | <E0x> | cyrax: http://www.livedistro.org/resources/documentation/howtos/creating-a-custom-debian-livecd-with-fluxbox-using-live-package |
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| 08:09 | <E0x> | cyrax: when the cd load the kernel |
| 08:09 | <E0x> | if is supported |
| 08:10 | <E0x> | you will see the usb |
| 08:10 | <E0x> | try a live cd and hook you usbkey |
| 08:10 | <E0x> | and see if you can saw it |
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| 08:10 | <E0x> | explorer etc , if that work so you are OK |
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| 08:10 | <E0x> | ( sorry my for bad english ) |
| 08:10 | <cyrax> | E0x, I tried a live cd and it actually discovered the usbkey |
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| 08:11 | <cyrax> | E0x, matter matters to me, not language :) |
| 08:11 | <thibaud> | hi |
| 08:11 | <E0x> | cyrax: perfect , everything you need is build a kernel with all that you need build-in in the same kernel |
| 08:11 | <cyrax> | thanks for your help. I will read through them and see if it works. |
| 08:11 | <E0x> | so when the kernel load everything should work |
| 08:12 | <E0x> | cyrax: a tips , maybe you will need do some udev rules |
| 08:12 | <E0x> | for force the usbkey be the same device |
| 08:12 | <cyrax> | my question was how does the CD with the kernel continue hand off the booting sequence onto the linux installation on the USB |
| 08:12 | <E0x> | not matter what |
| 08:13 | <E0x> | cyrax: no the cd will load everything of the initial part of the startup but when the OS look for program |
| 08:13 | <E0x> | like X |
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| 08:13 | <E0x> | init |
| 08:13 | <E0x> | etc |
| 08:13 | <E0x> | will look for the usb |
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| 08:13 | <E0x> | because you will make the usbkey device / |
| 08:14 | <E0x> | where everything is save |
| 08:14 | <cyrax> | does it mean that the CD will be spinning all the while? |
| 08:14 | <cyrax> | aah I see. |
| 08:14 | <cyrax> | now I get it. |
| 08:14 | <E0x> | cyrax: in the first it will spin a lot maybe |
| 08:14 | <E0x> | but later don't |
| 08:15 | <cyrax> | E0x, sweet. That is what I wanted. This system will boot only occasionally. |
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| 08:34 | <kurumin> | WWW.COM.BR/VIVIANE |
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| 08:41 | <dude> | whats the script with flash lately, is it fubar? |
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| 08:42 | <azeem> | dude: can you be more specific? |
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| 08:44 | <apostols> | seanius, ping |
| 08:44 | <dude> | azeem, what i mean is i'm usin lenny amd64 and the flash plugin from non-free doesnt install |
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| 08:45 | <apostols> | jvw, ping |
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| 08:45 | <leo> | what i mean is i'm usin lenny amd64 and the flash plugin from non-free doesnt install ( may be kernel version) |
| 08:45 | <dude> | 2.6.22-2-amd64 #1 SMP |
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| 08:47 | <leo> | conflict on your source.list? |
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| 08:47 | <dude> | leo, sumoethin about md5 |
| 08:48 | <leo> | comment all, let just |
| 08:48 | <leo> | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 08:48 | <leo> | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 08:49 | <leo> | you're using etch? |
| 08:49 | <dude> | leo, cant use those sources i use lenny ; ), plus flashplugin is only available from non-free |
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| 08:50 | <leo> | true |
| 08:51 | <dude> | i know it works in etch, i'll just have to wait |
| 08:52 | <leo> | i'll find that pack in australlian source non-free |
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| 08:57 | <dude> | i read somethin about the md5 from the uk repo is the problem, ? myabe i could try that |
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| 08:58 | <leo> | i m going to lanch |
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| 08:58 | <dude> | :) |
| 08:58 | <leo> | try that...# Unstable |
| 08:58 | <leo> | deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 08:58 | <leo> | deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 08:58 | <eleonora> | irc://irc.freenode.net/blenderchat |
| 08:59 | <leo> | i use that to madwifi... they have many diferent things |
| 08:59 | <dude> | leo, ok |
| 08:59 | <dude> | i'll try it i'll take the risk |
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| 08:59 | <leo> | ahhaahah |
| 08:59 | <dude> | i need flash |
| 08:59 | <leo> | hug.... |
| 08:59 | <dude> | thanx man i appreciate it |
| 09:00 | <leo> | my first day on irc.. |
| 09:00 | <leo> | i wish try help every! that i could! |
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| 09:06 | <Gekz> | in rtorrent, I've set the throttle to 10KB/s for downloads, how do I turn it on now xD |
| 09:07 | <Gekz> | wait a minute... |
| 09:07 | <Gekz> | ignore me |
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| 09:25 | <real0ne> | i have one problem |
| 09:25 | <real0ne> | when i start with my debian |
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| 09:25 | <real0ne> | server x |
| 09:25 | <real0ne> | can't be |
| 09:25 | <real0ne> | any one can help me |
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| 09:31 | <the-dude> | did you check /var/log/xorg.log? |
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| 09:34 | <real0ne> | i have it |
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| 09:38 | <dude> | hello how can i fix this, http://rafb.net/p/z4gLWB16.html |
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| 09:39 | <lastfeel> | ciao a tutti |
| 09:39 | <lastfeel> | il mio problema è questo |
| 09:40 | <lastfeel> | sto tratando d'imparare php |
| 09:40 | <Icekiller> | http://www.phpriot.com/6100 <-- yet the audio usb won't work |
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| 09:41 | <JasonS> | real0ne: bit more information would be nice |
| 09:41 | <real0ne> | thanks |
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| 10:00 | <screenn> | re |
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| 10:22 | <Pheed> | psssh |
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| 10:23 | <alaya> | 87 |
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| 10:33 | <seanius> | apostols: you might was well ask instead of pinging |
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| 10:37 | <padski> | I am looking for insights into this error message: |
| 10:37 | <padski> | (XEN) MCE: The hardware reports a non fatal, correctable incident occurred on CPU 0. |
| 10:37 | <padski> | (XEN) Bank 1: 9400000000000151 |
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| 10:43 | <petemc> | i dont know what that means, but i can say that ive seen a good few error messages with xen kernels that havent noticably affected the machines performance |
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| 10:48 | <padski> | petemc: there *is* a problem on this system, and several things point in the direction of the hardware. but I googled that second line and I was suprised by how many hits I got. |
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| 10:52 | <Icekiller> | http://www.phpriot.com/6100 <-- yet the audio usb won't work |
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| 10:53 | <Ludovico> | sera |
| 10:53 | <themill> | Icekiller: #alsa on freenode.net might be more able to help you with that. |
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| 10:56 | <tim> | hay |
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| 10:56 | <tim> | any one know how to change my grub boot menu list |
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| 10:56 | <tim__> | any one here ? |
| 10:57 | <azeem> | tim__: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 10:57 | <padski> | 2 ops, 310 total |
| 10:58 | <padski> | Warning: unknown mime-type for "/boot/grub/menu.lst" ;-) |
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| 11:00 | <tim__> | thank you |
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| 11:02 | <tim__> | edit not vail command |
| 11:02 | <azeem> | tim__: it's a verb, not a command |
| 11:02 | <azeem> | to edit |
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| 11:02 | <azeem> | tim__: use your favourite editor and edit the file (as root) |
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| 11:03 | <padski> | azeem: it is also available as a command, which doesn't work on my system :-( |
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| 11:04 | <T0OL> | anybody here knows about installing argouml under etch for an amd64 architektur? |
| 11:04 | <tim__> | it wont let me save it cause of permissions how do i get it top reconsie me as root |
| 11:05 | <azeem> | tim__: use su or sudo |
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| 11:06 | <tim__> | yea so i typed su gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and then it opens the file up so when i save it wont let me |
| 11:06 | <themill> | tim__: you have to start the editor as root. If you want a console editor, use su with nano or vim, or if you want a point+click editor then look at either gksu or sux for allowing you to run gui apps as root. |
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| 11:06 | <tim__> | ok |
| 11:06 | <tim__> | thank you |
| 11:07 | <themill> | tim__: that command should have produced an error not started gedit. |
| 11:08 | <tim__> | no i tried againa nd workd |
| 11:08 | <tim__> | i used sudo |
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| 11:08 | <themill> | tim__: you would need to configure sudo to allow you to run commands in that way first. |
| 11:08 | <tim__> | well its letting em |
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| 11:25 | <marcos> | ola |
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| 11:33 | <dmytro> | hi ppl |
| 11:34 | <ecidadania8> | hallo!!! |
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| 11:35 | <dmytro> | as recomended by others - i installed irssi :-) & ran |
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| 11:36 | <JasonS> | why ran? so slick its scared you? |
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| 11:36 | <dmytro> | was joke ;-) still running |
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| 11:37 | <dmytro> | it is incredible |
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| 11:37 | <dmytro> | lightweight & simple ot use |
| 11:37 | <dmytro> | as a console |
| 11:38 | <JasonS> | dmytro: yep run it in a screen and off you go |
| 11:38 | <engla> | wrap it in a screen too |
| 11:38 | <engla> | :) |
| 11:38 | <dmytro> | thanks for advise who recomended me this client ! |
| 11:41 | <dmytro> | helpfull for users who haven`t video card |
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| 11:42 | <engla> | the console format is good ui for irc though |
| 11:43 | <dmytro> | though u`re right |
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| 11:45 | <dmytro> | satisfied when installed Debian from network mirror - no need to use CD`s or DVD`s |
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| 11:48 | <dmytro> | I know that some cellular phones work under Linux OS |
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| 11:58 | <drizzto> | hi can someone help me i have some problems with ubuntu and dvb-t |
| 11:59 | <valdyn> | drizzto: /j #ubuntu |
| 11:59 | <drizzto> | i already joined this channel but they all are afk |
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| 12:00 | <drizzto> | hmm nobody? |
| 12:01 | <JasonS> | drizzto: wrong channel |
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| 12:01 | <drizzto> | i know but it is non question only for ubuntu i think its a linux problem |
| 12:01 | <JasonS> | drizzto: then try ##linux |
| 12:02 | <drizzto> | ok |
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| 12:02 | <drizzto> | thx |
| 12:02 | <valdyn> | i doubt that style of asking is going to get help anywhere |
| 12:02 | <drizzto> | and why not here |
| 12:02 | <dmytro> | N |
| 12:02 | <valdyn> | drizzto: ubuntu is offtopic |
| 12:02 | <JasonS> | because you arent running debian |
| 12:03 | <padski> | drizzto: are you saying there is noone on #ubuntu ??? |
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| 12:05 | <stew> | dmytro: you want #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net not the one on this network |
| 12:05 | <stew> | drizzto: ^^^^ |
| 12:05 | <stew> | dmytro: (sorry, not you) |
| 12:05 | <dmytro> | :-) not at all |
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| 12:14 | <drizzto> | sorry was afk |
| 12:14 | <drizzto> | no one answer on #ubuntu |
| 12:14 | <drizzto> | @padski |
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| 12:15 | <padski> | drizzto: <stew> dmytro: you want #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net not the one on this network |
| 12:15 | <drizzto> | why? |
| 12:16 | <azeem> | drizzto: because that's where #ubuntu is located |
| 12:16 | <drizzto> | oh thx |
| 12:16 | <drizzto> | i startet the irc client on my ubuntu and this network is joined :-)) |
| 12:16 | <azeem> | drizzto: which client? |
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| 12:17 | <drizzto> | konversation |
| 12:17 | <padski> | drizzto: please file a bug on the ubuntu system |
| 12:17 | <drizzto> | its my first time i use ubuntu |
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| 12:18 | <[gloom]> | hi there. Is there any debian package that provides an app fot slideshow photos, with cool efects? Like the ones on the mac or so? |
| 12:18 | <cahoot> | gqview? |
| 12:18 | <seanius> | drizzto: well congratulations on new experiences anyway :) |
| 12:18 | <cahoot> | or are speaking of a presentation tool? |
| 12:18 | <[gloom]> | my girlfriend is asking me:D she needs this:D |
| 12:18 | <[gloom]> | yep |
| 12:18 | <drizzto> | seanius: thx |
| 12:19 | <cahoot> | gloom openoffice has one |
| 12:19 | <drizzto> | need it for som projekt to complete my practice |
| 12:19 | <cahoot> | impress? |
| 12:19 | <[gloom]> | she has a lot of photos, and want to show them to some friends, and she would like to have some nice app. |
| 12:19 | <drizzto> | anyway thancs for help |
| 12:19 | <drizzto> | bye |
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| 12:19 | <[gloom]> | cahoot: ahh, ok, no no, no slide presentation. Just realtime slideshow froma directory with photos |
| 12:20 | <fxiny> | qiv |
| 12:20 | <cahoot> | gloom sounds like the picture viewer default in gnome |
| 12:20 | <[gloom]> | yep, but under kde:D |
| 12:20 | <azeem> | gloom? |
| 12:20 | <fxiny> | xslideshow was on sarge |
| 12:20 | <[gloom]> | azeem: yes? |
| 12:20 | <azeem> | oh, nm |
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| 12:21 | <[gloom]> | ok, i will whow her xslideshow |
| 12:21 | <[gloom]> | show* |
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| 12:21 | <cahoot> | gloom feh is small and usaböe |
| 12:21 | <fxiny> | xslide has gone |
| 12:21 | <fxiny> | i use qiv on etch |
| 12:21 | <[gloom]> | aha |
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| 12:21 | <[gloom]> | i will try some of them |
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| 13:26 | [~] | [1]thijs hi |
| 13:26 | <path> | hi there |
| 13:26 | <[1]thijs> | !vhost |
| 13:26 | <[1]thijs> | ks |
| 13:26 | <[1]thijs> | debian fan? |
| 13:26 | <path> | sure why not :) |
| 13:26 | [~] | [1]thijs me to |
| 13:27 | <[1]thijs> | ls |
| 13:27 | <[1]thijs> | but how can i build distro based on debian |
| 13:28 | <stew> | [1]thijs: why would you want to build a distro based on debian instead of just using debian? |
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| 13:28 | <[1]thijs> | why? |
| 13:28 | <stew> | [1]thijs: yes, that is my question. why? |
| 13:28 | <[1]thijs> | i want build a server system install |
| 13:28 | <[1]thijs> | debian is very cool |
| 13:29 | <Gathond> | iirc the debian installer is quite flexible in letting you script the install process |
| 13:29 | <[1]thijs> | but i need to install 20000 servers |
| 13:29 | <vortex> | ouch |
| 13:29 | <[1]thijs> | no xen of vmware |
| 13:29 | <[1]thijs> | etc |
| 13:29 | <[1]thijs> | hard machines |
| 13:29 | <[1]thijs> | im useing pxe |
| 13:29 | <[1]thijs> | boot form network |
| 13:29 | <stew> | [1]thijs: you want fai : /msg dpkg fai ; or use preseed: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
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| 13:29 | <stew> | you can preseed via pxe |
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| 13:31 | <dkr> | [1]thijs: is that for some kind of supercomputer cluster? |
| 13:31 | <path> | 20000 servers? |
| 13:31 | <path> | ahahah |
| 13:32 | <dyln> | ..why would someone with 20000 servers be asking for help on an irc server? |
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| 13:32 | <dkr> | dyln: why wouldn't they? |
| 13:32 | <dmytro> | lol |
| 13:33 | <path> | because he couldnt plug on that amount of computers dyln |
| 13:33 | <dmytro> | `d be debian superinstaller |
| 13:33 | <dkr> | I know plenty of people via irc working at google/yahoo/scince labs etc |
| 13:33 | <path> | he's asking for people to do it |
| 13:33 | <dyln> | haha |
| 13:34 | <dkr> | we're not all script kiddies on irc. some of us are professionals. :) |
| 13:34 | [~] | [1]thijs ttnx all\for info |
| 13:35 | <dkr> | I run a custom distro on about 2000 machines myself. :) |
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| 13:35 | <dyln> | Hm. |
| 13:35 | <[1]thijs> | cool |
| 13:35 | <dyln> | That's alot. |
| 13:35 | <[1]thijs> | kernel version? |
| 13:36 | <dyln> | && how much power does that take up? |
| 13:36 | <backslash> | hey everyone |
| 13:36 | <backslash> | can anyone give me a short introduction? |
| 13:36 | <backslash> | im in IRC the first time :O |
| 13:36 | <dmytro> | into ? |
| 13:36 | <backslash> | IRC |
| 13:36 | <[1]thijs> | hi |
| 13:36 | <[1]thijs> | :D |
| 13:36 | <dmytro> | hi |
| 13:36 | <[1]thijs> | hello world |
| 13:36 | <backslash> | just want to a server about a specific thread ;) |
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| 13:36 | <dmytro> | good idea |
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| 13:36 | <dyln> | hi. |
| 13:37 | <[1]thijs> | hello world @! |
| 13:37 | <backslash> | wot? ^^ |
| 13:37 | <dyln> | I think thijs wants you to type hello world. |
| 13:37 | <dmytro> | common thing |
| 13:37 | <backslash> | ah |
| 13:38 | <backslash> | omg in every programming language i have to do this ^^ |
| 13:38 | <backslash> | Hello World! |
| 13:38 | <backslash> | alrite? ;) |
| 13:38 | <dyln> | Yeah, I think that is where is comes from. |
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| 13:38 | <backslash> | :P |
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| 13:38 | <dmytro> | aks a question. An IRC has a lot of themes |
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| 13:38 | <backslash> | how can i get into a server which is about a specific thread? |
| 13:38 | <backslash> | okay.. |
| 13:38 | <backslash> | ehm |
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| 13:39 | <dyln> | server as in channel? |
| 13:39 | <backslash> | if i wanna get into a server whichs about networking |
| 13:39 | <backslash> | hmm |
| 13:39 | <backslash> | how does that stuff work |
| 13:39 | <backslash> | server network and channel |
| 13:39 | <backslash> | :P |
| 13:39 | <backslash> | guess ive gotta get into this in internet (google...) ? |
| 13:39 | <dyln> | http://www.mishscript.de/ircguide/index.htm |
| 13:39 | <dyln> | :D |
| 13:40 | <dmytro> | a simplest way ) |
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| 13:40 | <backslash> | okay |
| 13:40 | <backslash> | so i have to know a networks name |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | then i can choose a channel? |
| 13:41 | <dmytro> | actually ... im also a newbie in IRC |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | ;) |
| 13:41 | <dyln> | Apparently, the first known source for hello world was in the original ANSI C manual/book |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | just started first time |
| 13:41 | <dyln> | you're on a network now |
| 13:41 | <dyln> | what client are you using? |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | #network ? |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | Konversation |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | ah lol |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | its blue |
| 13:41 | <dyln> | #thisisachannel |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | #test |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | #hehe |
| 13:41 | <backslash> | ^^ |
| 13:41 | <dyln> | you do /join #channelname |
| 13:41 | <dmytro> | type "/list [desired channel name]" |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | so what now ;) |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | okeay |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | ohh |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | kewl |
| 13:42 | <dmytro> | use a mask in channel names |
| 13:42 | <noflash> | backslash, google for IRC and Konversation |
| 13:42 | <dmytro> | for example "/list #debian*" |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | okay |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | well |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | ive found a channel |
| 13:42 | <backslash> | can i double click |
| 13:43 | <backslash> | can i be in 2 channels at same time ? |
| 13:43 | <dmytro> | anda u`ll get a lot of names |
| 13:43 | <dmytro> | yes u can - sure |
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| 13:43 | <dmytro> | if it will be a different name channels |
| 13:43 | <backslash> | ye |
| 13:43 | <backslash> | yess |
| 13:43 | <backslash> | i did it |
| 13:43 | <backslash> | '' |
| 13:43 | <backslash> | ^^ |
| 13:43 | |-| | backslash kicked [#debian] debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 13:44 | <dmytro> | got to know ? |
| 13:44 | <noflash> | ++ debhelper |
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| 13:44 | <dyln> | <3 |
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| 13:44 | <backslash> | LOL |
| 13:44 | <backslash> | flooding filter? ;) |
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| 13:44 | <dmytro> | i dont care |
| 13:44 | <backslash> | hehe |
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| 13:44 | <dyln> | try to keep it all in one line I guess |
| 13:45 | <noflash> | keep it about debian |
| 13:45 | <dyln> | That works too. |
| 13:45 | <dmytro> | i means - type without pressing "enter" |
| 13:45 | <backslash> | oki ^^ have to try this: sdfsdf sdg dfg dfgdfg dfgdf gdfgdf gfdg-df-gdfg fdlgkjfdlgkdfj sdlfkjsdflksd sdlkfjs sfdlksdj lfskdjf l |
| 13:45 | <backslash> | :P |
| 13:45 | <backslash> | sorry |
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| 13:45 | <backslash> | ^^ |
| 13:45 | <dmytro> | not about irc at all |
| 13:46 | <noflash> | /ignore -replies backslash |
| 13:46 | <dmytro> | nothin wrong |
| 13:46 | <dyln> | You can start a private session with yourself |
| 13:46 | <backslash> | does anyone knows a channel about 3D Desktop ? |
| 13:46 | <backslash> | LOL |
| 13:46 | <dmytro> | )) lol |
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| 13:46 | <dmytro> | sorry |
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| 13:46 | <backslash> | channel about compiz and beryl in gnome ? |
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| 13:47 | <dyln> | I recommend you install xchat it has a nice channel list organizer/searcher/finderthing |
| 13:47 | <dmytro> | try to search via channel mask |
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| 13:47 | <backslash> | hmm.. will |
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| 13:47 | <dmytro> | or kvirc |
| 13:47 | <dmytro> | (for KDE) |
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| 13:48 | <backslash> | good linux terminal ftp client? ;) |
| 13:48 | <backslash> | is this channel stuff-channel ? xD |
| 13:48 | <akadna> | anyone know something debian in a vmware environment ? |
| 13:48 | <dmytro> | :-/ |
| 13:49 | <backslash> | nope :P |
| 13:49 | <stew> | backslash: do you have a debian related question? |
| 13:49 | <megaryu> | hola |
| 13:49 | <backslash> | ehm |
| 13:49 | <backslash> | kinda way yes ^^ |
| 13:49 | <backslash> | well |
| 13:49 | <backslash> | about gnome i guess |
| 13:49 | <Myon> | the comment about the enter key still stands |
| 13:49 | <dmytro> | gnome in debian ? |
| 13:49 | <stew> | backslash: if you have a debian related question, please just ask it |
| 13:49 | <backslash> | dont think so :P |
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| 13:49 | <dyln> | Packages sort o fmake the debian experience, do they not? |
| 13:50 | <backslash> | but some gnome related ones |
| 13:50 | <megaryu> | ggggggggfdgfd |
| 13:50 | <backslash> | so #debian is a network ? |
| 13:51 | <dyln> | #debian is a channel |
| 13:51 | <dmytro> | if "gnome-related" in debian ... |
| 13:51 | <backslash> | whats the network |
| 13:51 | <backslash> | yh? |
| 13:51 | <dyln> | in the debian network |
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| 13:51 | <backslash> | kk |
| 13:51 | <dmytro> | #debian - is a channel in debian IRC server |
| 13:51 | <backslash> | hmm |
| 13:51 | <backslash> | how many servers are there |
| 13:51 | <backslash> | about 15 ? |
| 13:51 | <dmytro> | that`s easy |
| 13:52 | <dmytro> | not enumerated yet ))) |
| 13:52 | <simonrvn> | there's here, and freenode |
| 13:52 | <backslash> | ^^ |
| 13:52 | <dyln> | irc.geo.oftc.net is my network to be specific |
| 13:52 | <backslash> | kk |
| 13:52 | <backslash> | what about "quakenet" |
| 13:52 | <backslash> | its popular i guess |
| 13:53 | <dyln> | its mostly gaming related chat |
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| 13:53 | <dmytro> | there`re ppls spends time plnng games |
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| 13:53 | <stew> | backslash: if you have questions about this irc network, please read http://oftc.net or ask in #oftc |
| 13:53 | <dmytro> | if u`re game fun - it is your direction |
| 13:53 | <stew> | backslash: if you don't have any debian related questions, please find a more appropriate channel |
| 13:53 | <backslash> | okay ^^ |
| 13:53 | <backslash> | im sorry |
| 13:54 | <backslash> | are you moderator or something like that ? |
| 13:54 | <JasonS> | something like that |
| 13:54 | <dmytro> | not a bot anyway |
| 13:54 | <Myon> | backslash: get on topic please |
| 13:54 | <backslash> | are you talking "private" to me??! lol |
| 13:54 | <backslash> | <user> backslash: message | is this private ? |
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| 13:55 | <dmytro> | seems smbody wants to joke with us |
| 13:55 | <backslash> | ? |
| 13:55 | <dmytro> | i meant |
| 13:55 | <Myon> | yhbt |
| 13:56 | <dmytro> | we gave u a site where overviews about irc specifics etc. |
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| 13:57 | <backslash> | okay |
| 13:57 | <backslash> | im sorry |
| 13:57 | <backslash> | leave now :P |
| 13:57 | <backslash> | thanks for help |
| 13:57 | <dmytro> | until u have some questions about debian (exactly debian) |
| 13:58 | <backslash> | kk |
| 13:58 | <backslash> | cye^^ |
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| 13:58 | <dmytro> | feel free |
| 13:58 | <dmytro> | bye |
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| 14:03 | <masebase> | Does anyone know why a debain server would not be able to boot without a monitor connected? I have a gentoo install on the same computer and it will so I know it is not the a bois or hardware problems. With debian it hangs right be the line "Uncompressing linux...". I you hook up a monitor it boots. I tried passing the kernel the option "vga=0" and that did not help. Thanks |
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| 14:07 | <simonrvn> | masebase: check your bios and disable checking for keyboard monitor, etc. before boot |
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| 14:15 | <xplot> | hola tengo una preguntaç |
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| 14:16 | <chealer> | !tell xplot about es |
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| 14:17 | <angasule> | is there an MSN client that supports audio conversations? kopete doesn't seem to |
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| 14:24 | <bahamat> | for anybody who has a postfix mail server running on etch: does postfix guess myhostname properly? |
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| 14:27 | <petemc> | bahamat: i dont use postfix, but i would imagine it uses whatever the output of hostname -f is, in the absence of being explicitly told |
| 14:27 | <petemc> | exim certainly does |
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| 14:28 | <bahamat> | petemc: it doesn't, I'm chasing down a followup to bug #402788 I think |
| 14:29 | <bahamat> | all my etch boxes default to "foo.localdomain" where "foo" is the short hostname and "localdomain" is litterally "localdomain" |
| 14:29 | <bahamat> | but it should be using my real domainname instead |
| 14:30 | <bahamat> | hostname -d reports the right thing, but postfix doesn't know it |
| 14:30 | <petemc> | oh, well im no help, sorry |
| 14:31 | <petemc> | that bug report indicates its fixed, this isnt the case? |
| 14:31 | <bahamat> | petemc: it's different behaviour, but I wouldn't call it fixed |
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| 14:31 | <bahamat> | I'm trying to figure out if my network is just screwed up, or if everyone is like this |
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| 14:32 | <bahamat> | I can't belive there's 325 people in here and I'm the only one running a postfix mail server |
| 14:33 | <stew> | bahamat: can you show us the output of "postconf -n" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 14:34 | <akadna> | bahamat: changed your hostname ? |
| 14:34 | <bahamat> | akadna: I shouldn't have to |
| 14:35 | <akadna> | checked /ets/hosts ? |
| 14:35 | <bahamat> | akadna: it's correct |
| 14:35 | <bahamat> | stew: http://pastebin.ca/815072 |
| 14:36 | <bahamat> | btw, this happens regardless of wether I upgrade from sarge to etch or just a brand new etch box |
| 14:36 | <bahamat> | when the system installs, running `hostname` is the shortname, and `hostname --fqdn` works properly |
| 14:37 | <bahamat> | but postfix can't find it |
| 14:37 | <bahamat> | if I run `hostname foo.bar.com` then postfix uses that for the myhostname parameter |
| 14:38 | <bahamat> | but it doesn't seem like I should have to do that |
| 14:38 | <Gathond> | what does /etc/mailname say? |
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| 14:38 | <bahamat> | Gathond: my correct fqdn |
| 14:38 | <Gathond> | I think that is the default in myhostname |
| 14:39 | <akadna> | can you inset myhostname: youhostname |
| 14:39 | <bahamat> | the postfix docs say that it does a gethostbyname() lookup, but that's what hostname says too |
| 14:39 | <stew> | bahamat: yeah, you want to set myhostname |
| 14:39 | <stew> | i think debian has "myorigin = /etc/mailname" by default as well |
| 14:39 | <bahamat> | akadna: I have 200 servers centrally controlled via cfengine, I don't want to have 200 separate instances to manage |
| 14:40 | <bahamat> | it's *supposed* to be done automagically |
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| 14:44 | <stew> | bahamat: sounds like you should reopen #402788 |
| 14:44 | <bahamat> | that sucks |
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| 14:46 | <bahamat> | how do I reopen a bug that says it's been archived? |
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| 15:10 | <sidd> | anybody know what program to use to sync videos to my ipod? |
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| 15:10 | <jagerman> | People actually put videos on their iPods? |
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| 15:11 | <jagerman> | I thought that was just a marketing gimmick. |
| 15:11 | [~] | baloo_laptop wonders how to reset madwifi after terminating kismet short of rebooting. |
| 15:11 | <qbit> | baloo_laptop, try |
| 15:11 | <qbit> | heh |
| 15:11 | <qbit> | rmmod / modprobe |
| 15:12 | <baloo_laptop> | qbit: Aaah, I'll try that after next time I use kismet. |
| 15:12 | <qbit> | sidd, maybe gtkpod ? |
| 15:12 | <qbit> | or amarok |
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| 15:12 | [~] | baloo_laptop also wonders how to force dhclient to try for a new address when the WAP changes. |
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| 15:13 | <stew> | does just 'iwconfig ath0 mode Managed essid whatever channel whatever" not make madwifi go back to managed mode? |
| 15:13 | <baloo_laptop> | stew: Not sure. I know however kismet is trying to do it doesn't get 'er done. |
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| 15:14 | <Entheogen> | guys i just compiles 2.6.23 kernel and i cannot make initrd |
| 15:14 | <Entheogen> | what package should i use to install mkinitrd? |
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| 15:15 | <Entheogen> | what package should i install to use mkinitrd*? |
| 15:15 | <Entheogen> | :P |
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| 15:15 | <stew> | Entheogen: mkinitramfs from iniramfs-tools |
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| 15:16 | <Entheogen> | i get this with mkinitramfs |
| 15:16 | <Entheogen> | shiva:/boot# mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.23 2.6.23 |
| 15:16 | <Entheogen> | Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.23 |
| 15:16 | <stew> | Entheogen: not that it is recommended that you just compile using make-kpkg and pass it the --initrd parameter, so this is done for you when you install the resulting .deb: /msg dpkg kp |
| 15:16 | <stew> | Entheogen: how did you install the kernel? |
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| 15:19 | <k4k> | Ok, so I have a delema and I need some help solving this |
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| 15:20 | <k4k> | I just got one of those Asus Eee UMPCs |
| 15:20 | <k4k> | and I need to install debian |
| 15:20 | <k4k> | because xandros is driving me nuts |
| 15:21 | <k4k> | the trick is is that the Eee UMPC doesn't have a cd drive |
| 15:21 | <k4k> | so I'm thinking I am going to install debian base install to a jump drive and boot from that and then install to the hard drive (basically following the pendrivelinux.com tutorial |
| 15:21 | <k4k> | ) |
| 15:21 | <k4k> | my question is, how big is the debian base install? |
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| 15:22 | <k4k> | would it fit on a 256mb jump drive? |
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| 15:22 | <Entheogen> | i managed to make initrd but kernel wont start, it says smth about unknown block on root partition |
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| 15:23 | <Entheogen> | what should I set to * on kernel config? |
| 15:24 | <SpeedyG> | why do you want a custom kernel? |
| 15:24 | <Merlin69> | i have that installation myself on a pendrive |
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| 15:24 | <k4k> | Merlin69, how large is your install? |
| 15:24 | <Merlin69> | 1 gieg |
| 15:25 | <k4k> | :/ |
| 15:25 | <Merlin69> | even less i guess |
| 15:25 | <k4k> | I need an install that will fit on 256mb |
| 15:25 | <Merlin69> | let e check |
| 15:25 | <k4k> | so I don't have to go buy a new drive |
| 15:25 | <Merlin69> | its on a boot.img.gz |
| 15:25 | <SpeedyG> | k4k: small chance |
| 15:25 | <Entheogen> | SpeedyG, because there is no image and headers on repositories |
| 15:25 | <Entheogen> | of 2.6.23-k7 kernel |
| 15:25 | <SpeedyG> | Entheogen: why'd you want that kernel ? |
| 15:26 | <k4k> | SpeedyG: I just need someway to install debian on this computer, but it doesn't have a cd or floppy drive |
| 15:26 | <Merlin69> | itls 178 mb |
| 15:26 | <Entheogen> | because it is my architecture |
| 15:26 | <Entheogen> | and im using now 2.6.17 and it is too old |
| 15:26 | <Entheogen> | :| |
| 15:27 | <SpeedyG> | Entheogen: whats too old about it? why do you need a newer kernel? |
| 15:27 | <Merlin69> | i quess you need a 256 mb usb stick |
| 15:27 | <Entheogen> | SpeedyG, my sound card doesnt work right |
| 15:27 | <SpeedyG> | what soundcard? |
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| 15:28 | <Entheogen> | i get some noise because front mic & front mic boost is set to maximum on kde start |
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| 15:28 | <Entheogen> | and soundcard works fine when I mute front mic |
| 15:28 | <Entheogen> | i have snd-intel-hda |
| 15:28 | <SpeedyG> | Entheogen: well, than just use alsoconfig to mute them on startup, and save that |
| 15:28 | <Entheogen> | i tryed that |
| 15:28 | <SpeedyG> | you'll probably have the same issues on any other kernel as well |
| 15:29 | <sPiCy`> | tg nb |
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| 15:29 | <sPiCy`> | hi @ all |
| 15:29 | <Entheogen> | noise starts only when i log on to kde |
| 15:29 | <Entheogen> | when kdm login screen starts everything is fine |
| 15:29 | <Entheogen> | maybe it is kde problem? |
| 15:30 | <SpeedyG> | Entheogen: maybe its the kde-mixer that sets them to make noise again |
| 15:30 | <Entheogen> | well I removed kmixrc files and problem still exists... |
| 15:30 | <Entheogen> | when I restart X and login again theres no noise |
| 15:31 | <SpeedyG> | well, i'm not really an expert on X and its issues, but all I do know is that a newer kernel probably wont solve a thing on this |
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| 15:33 | <valdyn> | Entheogen: its related to artsd or kde sound settings |
| 15:33 | <Entheogen> | so what should I do? |
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| 15:36 | <Entheogen> | "full duplex" was checked on kcontrol's sound system |
| 15:36 | <dutche> | where can I find the DVD-ISO for Debian amd64? |
| 15:36 | <Entheogen> | i'm going to try that |
| 15:36 | <Entheogen> | one more question |
| 15:36 | <Entheogen> | how can I turn off that beep? :) |
| 15:37 | <jagerman> | dutche: I'd imagine most of the CD mirrors have it |
| 15:37 | <jagerman> | dutche: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#mirrors |
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| 15:59 | <backslash> | hi everyone ^^ |
| 15:59 | <backslash> | "debian related question" ok? ;) |
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| 16:00 | <dkr> | !ask |
| 16:00 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:01 | <backslash> | ok |
| 16:01 | <backslash> | i wanna ask u |
| 16:01 | <backslash> | if u can ask u |
| 16:01 | <backslash> | lol no... okay: |
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| 16:02 | <backslash> | After installing a program (using apt-get install) where can i find the program's folder? cuz i wanna edit some configuration files. (exactly: kiba-dock) |
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| 16:04 | <eduardo> | gfdg |
| 16:04 | <eduardo> | hola |
| 16:04 | <backslash> | where is the program's standard folder? like "apps" |
| 16:04 | <backslash> | absolute path |
| 16:04 | <stroyan> | backslash: You can see all the files in a package with "dpkg -L packagename". |
| 16:05 | <pumpkin0> | backslash: and usually the config is somewhere below /etc/ |
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| 16:06 | <sepski> | backslash, many programs create their config in dotfiles in your homedir. eg ~/.someprogramrc |
| 16:06 | <stew> | backslash: check the manpage or /usr/share/doc/packagename |
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| 16:08 | <shellclear> | hi my friends!!! |
| 16:08 | <stroyan> | backslash: The kiba-dock FAQ says edit ~/.kiba-dock/config or run kiba-settings |
| 16:09 | <shellclear> | anybody help me?? |
| 16:09 | <stew> | shellclear: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 16:09 | <stroyan> | shellclear: That depends.... |
| 16:10 | <shellclear> | i have one SATA disc in sda1 of my computer |
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| 16:11 | <shellclear> | my OS is lenny |
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| 16:12 | <shellclear> | sorry my english... |
| 16:13 | <shellclear> | grub ins't load... |
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| 16:13 | <shellclear> | what's problem?? |
| 16:13 | <pumpkin0> | shellclear: your BIOS is not set to boot the SATA-HD. |
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| 16:15 | <shellclear> | [pumpkin0]: my BIOS this configured correctly |
| 16:15 | <pumpkin0> | shellclear: why do you think so ? |
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| 16:16 | <shellclear> | [pumpkin0]: a record of boot only functions when use |
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| 16:18 | <shellclear> | pumpkin0 the system does not go up plus this installed. |
| 16:18 | <Snickie> | logout |
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| 16:19 | <Maulkin> | !br |
| 16:19 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 16:19 | <PunGNU> | hi |
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| 16:20 | <shellclear> | somebody can help me? |
| 16:20 | <Christmas> | !ro |
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| 16:20 | <Christmas> | what is the problem? |
| 16:21 | <pumpkin0> | shellclear: do you see anything from grub ? |
| 16:22 | <shellclear> | I have debian lenny installed in a record SATA in my computer but he does not load boot |
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| 16:23 | <shellclear> | pumpkin0 only when use a floppy of boot. |
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| 16:24 | <pumpkin0> | shellclear: then the main problem is your BIOS. Grub cannot do something without the BIOS first booting grub ... |
| 16:24 | <AzaTht> | anyone cunning in GFDL here? |
| 16:24 | <pumpkin0> | shellclear: but the BIOS may be starting the floppy. |
| 16:25 | <shellclear> | The BIOS this configured TO INITIATE SATA |
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| 16:39 | <backslash> | sry was afk |
| 16:39 | <backslash> | thanks for help |
| 16:40 | <backslash> | so ~ means homedir ? |
| 16:40 | <backslash> | yess right :D thank you |
| 16:40 | <backslash> | goodbye |
| 16:40 | <backslash> | ^^ |
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| 16:42 | <apostols> | Atomo64, ping |
| 16:42 | <mertkan> | türk yokmu |
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| 16:47 | <dkr> | !tu |
| 16:47 | <SpeedyG> | you're late ;) |
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| 17:10 | <paragonc> | ok - so i'm trying to get a real video driver to work - lspci shows me that i have an Intel Corp. 82845G video card, which driver should i use |
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| 17:11 | <czarodzieju> | . |
| 17:11 | <czarodzieju> | :) |
| 17:11 | <paragonc> | i dont see it listed under models |
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| 17:14 | <paragonc> | i'm currently running a Generic VESA driver |
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| 17:21 | <Vooch3> | Does anyone know where I can find the Debian source code repository for PHP? |
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| 17:23 | <azeem> | !deb-src |
| 17:23 | <dpkg> | deb-src is probably 'deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' |
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| 17:25 | <bts3685> | really quick, anyone know why no-ip isn't in lenny? |
| 17:25 | <jagerman> | What's no-ip? |
| 17:26 | <bts3685> | no-ip.org |
| 17:26 | <bts3685> | they have a dynamic update client for your public ip.. |
| 17:26 | <czarodzieju> | only for 1 year |
| 17:26 | <jagerman> | bts3685: Did you try noip2 ? |
| 17:26 | <bts3685> | the DUC was in the repos for etch, sid, etc. |
| 17:27 | <bts3685> | jagerman: didn't find it.. |
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| 17:27 | <bts3685> | czarodzieju: you can renew it for free. :) |
| 17:27 | <jagerman> | bts3685: Oh, looks like it's only in unstable |
| 17:27 | <czarodzieju> | free for 1 year |
| 17:27 | <bts3685> | jagerman: and etch. :) |
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| 17:28 | <bts3685> | czarodzieju: i've used the same url for a while now...is that a new policy that isn't retroactive? because it works for me and i've never paid a dime... |
| 17:29 | <eric_> | slt a tous |
| 17:29 | <jagerman> | bts3685: Grab the package from sid; it doesn't look like it requires anything not in lenny |
| 17:29 | <valdyn> | !why is no-ip not in testing |
| 17:29 | <dpkg> | no-ip is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=no-ip |
| 17:29 | <valdyn> | bts3685: ^^^ |
| 17:29 | <bts3685> | thanks valdyn |
| 17:29 | <jagerman> | bts3685: try http://packages.debian.org/sid/noip2 |
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| 17:30 | <bts3685> | thx jagerman |
| 17:31 | <valdyn> | bts3685: inadyn supports no-ip too |
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| 17:31 | <bts3685> | valdyn: oh! i didn't know that, i thought it only did dyn-dns |
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| 17:33 | <bts3685> | wow. noip got FANCY. |
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| 17:43 | <Viking> | Hi everybody! Could You tell me how could I tell which php script running on my server (Apache) is generating a high load ? |
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| 17:46 | <Ben> | ??????????? |
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| 17:46 | <Ben> | hallo ?? |
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| 18:14 | <Atomo64> | apostols: pong |
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| 18:55 | <Viking> | Hi everybody! Could You tell me how could I tell which php script running on my server (Apache) is generating a high load ? |
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| 19:00 | <angasule> | Viking: I don't know how that works, maybe top? |
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| 19:02 | <dkr> | Viking: /server-status |
| 19:02 | <dkr> | which you peobably have to enable in your apache config first |
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| 19:03 | <Viking> | Top doesn't work.I'll try server status |
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| 19:05 | <andres> | alguien habla español |
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| 19:08 | <lars> | Viking: ps -A | grep php5 |
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| 19:10 | <dkr> | lars: the php interpreter is embedded within apache so there is no separate php process forked when you run php cgi scripts |
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| 19:10 | <vir> | hi |
| 19:10 | <dkr> | !es |
| 19:10 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:10 | <Viking> | That's right.I run php as a module. |
| 19:11 | <Viking> | ps and status doesn't show what i need. |
| 19:11 | <dkr> | which is why you need to ask apache which script is running in which apache child via mod_status. :) |
| 19:11 | <vir> | i'd just like to know if dd could convert a dmg file into a iso file |
| 19:12 | <dkr> | perhaps you did not enable ExtendedStatus? |
| 19:12 | <dkr> | which gives the per child info in addition to general server stats |
| 19:12 | <lars> | vir thats not what dd do... |
| 19:12 | <vir> | because i'm not sure and befor to burn the iso, i wanted to be sure that a dd if=image.dmg of=image.iso run correctly |
| 19:12 | <dkr> | what is a .dmg file? |
| 19:13 | <vir> | a dmg file seems to be an apple's encrypted format for disk image |
| 19:13 | <vir> | i heard it could be encrypted |
| 19:14 | <vir> | but i can only mount it on a mac as far as i know |
| 19:14 | <vir> | so i was wondering how to convert it into a iso file so i could burn it from llinux |
| 19:14 | <lars> | vir you are really experimenting now? |
| 19:15 | <vir> | lars, yes |
| 19:15 | <Viking> | Yes, I did. Take a look i You like http://linux.wloclawek.pl/server-status ; The example script to load the server is here http://linux.wloclawek.pl/~leszek/php-load/script.txt |
| 19:15 | <Viking> | You can run it from here http://linux.wloclawek.pl/~leszek/php-load/ |
| 19:16 | <lars> | vir maybe try baghira.sf.net and acetone |
| 19:16 | <vir> | lars thank's |
| 19:17 | <lars> | vir acetoneiso |
| 19:19 | <vir> | baghira is a package to make qt/kde to look like osx if i understand ... |
| 19:20 | <Viking> | Then it shows something :) |
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| 19:20 | <Viking> | The load is very low tho. |
| 19:20 | <Viking> | But the browser almost hangs while loading so big table. |
| 19:21 | <vir> | lars acetoniso seems to be what i was looking for |
| 19:21 | <lars> | vir baghira.sf.net/dmg.htm |
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| 19:22 | <vir> | lars, ho sorry i didn't read this thx |
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| 19:23 | <Viking> | So your advices worked and I can sleep well tonight.Thank You! |
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| 19:24 | <vir> | however, do you think the iso i get from my dd entry would work ? |
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| 19:24 | <vir> | ( i can't try to mount the iso file right now because it isn't on my computer |
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| 19:27 | <lars> | as far as I know dd copy on bit level, iso is a file |
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| 19:37 | <vir> | well, thank's a lot, i should leave |
| 19:37 | <vir> | thank's again |
| 19:37 | <vir> | bye |
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| 19:48 | <dleidert> | can anybody tell me, why there are no -k7 linux-image packages for the 2.6.23 series? |
| 19:49 | <abrotman> | for sid? |
| 19:49 | <dleidert> | doh! forget it, finally found the changelgo |
| 19:49 | <dleidert> | yes, for sid |
| 19:50 | <alaya> | * [i386] Drop k7 images. |
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| 19:51 | <dleidert> | yes, found that too (currently reading the changelog) |
| 19:51 | <dleidert> | but why do they have been dropped? |
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| 19:51 | <dleidert> | which packages replace them? the -i486? |
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| 19:52 | <alaya> | sadly, you'd think there'd at least be a dummy transition package with explanation |
| 19:52 | <alaya> | maybe file as a bug |
| 19:52 | <alaya> | i would |
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| 19:53 | <dleidert> | I will at least ask and then decide :) |
| 19:54 | <danilohk> | alguem fla PT-BR? |
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| 19:54 | <azeem> | !br |
| 19:54 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 19:54 | <dleidert> | it has been already reported |
| 19:54 | <danilohk> | como faço isso aUSHAUshua |
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| 19:54 | <alaya> | dleidert: nice |
| 19:55 | <dleidert> | #454777 (for for those, that are intersted too) |
| 19:55 | [~] | dleidert is currently reading |
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| 20:04 | <dleidert> | ok, I will compile my own images again ;) |
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| 21:01 | <ikks> | Hi, I have a Proliant ML350, but the installer tells me there is no space on the devices. |
| 21:01 | <ikks> | I haven't been able to show the scsi disks attached |
| 21:01 | <ikks> | Even using smartstart |
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| 21:01 | <ikks> | It does not show the disks. |
| 21:01 | <ikks> | Any hints on proliant servers? |
| 21:02 | <dli> | ikks, which distribution? |
| 21:02 | <ikks> | Tried to use ORCA, but when I press F8 it doesn't show me the utility to config the array. |
| 21:02 | <ikks> | Etch. |
| 21:02 | <ikks> | amd64 |
| 21:03 | <ikks> | But on the ROM prompt doesn't show the disks. |
| 21:03 | <ikks> | Or I'm not able to find them. |
| 21:03 | <dli> | ROM prompt? |
| 21:03 | <ikks> | Etch It's reported to work on ML350() |
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| 21:03 | <ikks> | I mean, the ROM menu |
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| 21:04 | <ikks> | smart array E200i |
| 21:04 | <dli> | ikks, you have SATA RAID, right? |
| 21:04 | <ikks> | nope, it reports to be Scsi raid. |
| 21:05 | <dli> | ikks, http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-241434-241646-241477-1121586.html |
| 21:05 | <dli> | ikks, it shows sata raid only |
| 21:05 | <dli> | ikks, your disks probably not plugged in yet |
| 21:06 | <dli> | ikks, power down, open the box, and recheck disks |
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| 21:06 | <dli> | ikks, and set up your raid after that, before booting the installer |
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| 21:09 | <ikks> | I guess the step I'm not able to manage is setting up the raid. |
| 21:10 | <ikks> | Do I have to pull something or push somewhere? |
| 21:10 | <ikks> | Not just pushing the disks in place? |
| 21:10 | <dli> | ikks, power down first |
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| 21:11 | <dli> | ikks, should be so, just make sure both the data socket and power socket are properly connected |
| 21:11 | <dli> | ikks, if no luck, you may have to read the manual |
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| 21:18 | <ikks> | no luck, re reading the manual. |
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| 21:19 | <ikks> | It said the raid would detect the disks on first power on and autoconf the array. |
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| 21:20 | <dli> | ikks, call HP support |
| 21:21 | <ikks> | yep, I don't see anything else to DO. Tried using the tools on the CD. But either no luck. |
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| 21:23 | <s32raph> | ikks: i used to work for hp, whats the problem? |
| 21:24 | <ikks> | I'm not able to start ORCA |
| 21:24 | <ikks> | The raid doesn't recognize two attached disks in front |
| 21:25 | <ikks> | SAS |
| 21:25 | <ikks> | They are on channel 1 and 1 |
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| 21:25 | <ikks> | 2 |
| 21:25 | <s32raph> | ikks: brand new right? |
| 21:25 | <ikks> | yep. |
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| 21:26 | <s32raph> | ikks: |
| 21:26 | <s32raph> | ikks: bios detecting them? |
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| 21:26 | <ikks> | no, the disks are not showing. |
| 21:27 | <s32raph> | ikks: could be a couple reasons, ill give you two solutions |
| 21:28 | <s32raph> | ikks: unplug everything but the power, do a hard reset (hold power button for a good minute), try again. check the jumpers/cable connections. also when u boot, keep everything unplugged except the basics (kb/mouse/power.. haha) |
| 21:29 | <s32raph> | 2nd alternative is to call hp, you could do one better by just using the online support, but if you call them they will make you do the same anyways |
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| 21:29 | <s32raph> | the ACTUAL solution to this |
| 21:29 | <s32raph> | ikks: return your HP and get a toshiba or something |
| 21:29 | <s32raph> | ; ) |
| 21:29 | <ikks> | :) |
| 21:30 | <s32raph> | ikks: seriously tho, id say, start with the non-detect issue |
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| 21:30 | <s32raph> | ikks: check docs for jumper settings, bios settings, maybe even board settings.. (all those switchy pins gotta do something) |
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| 21:34 | <ruthmann> | Can anyone recommend a good program to rip internet radio stations, that can split it into separate files by a specified length? |
| 21:37 | <abrotman> | !info vsound etch |
| 21:37 | <dpkg> | vsound: (Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.6-4.1 (etch), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 108 kB |
| 21:37 | <abrotman> | you'll have to split it yourself |
| 21:38 | <Solver> | Hi all. I have a fully patched etch box where /etc/security/limits.conf is being completely ignored |
| 21:38 | <ruthmann> | yeah thats the problem |
| 21:38 | <abrotman> | it's not that hard |
| 21:38 | <ruthmann> | i can't seem to find one that will split it on the fly |
| 21:38 | <abrotman> | open in audacity .. split where needed |
| 21:38 | <ruthmann> | yeah but i use it everyday for 4 hours, at 20 minute intervals |
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| 21:39 | <ruthmann> | so over time it's alot of work |
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| 21:40 | <DanDare> | is that he was looking for http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/ its the best |
| 21:41 | <Solver> | PAM setup is all vanilla. |
| 21:41 | <ikks> | thanks a lot, I will be reading, calling, and maybe coming back :) |
| 21:41 | <ikks> | bye,bye |
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| 21:51 | [~] | s32raph says dont forget to configure your guten!! |
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| 22:05 | <kingsley> | Can the "less" command be configured to interpret escape sequences from the "ls" command so the output is colorized? |
| 22:05 | <kingsley> | If so, how? |
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| 22:09 | <Solver> | ok found it. pam_limits.so wasn't enabled by default for su |
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| 22:09 | <s32raph> | can someone point me towards the etch kernel file that im allowed to modify, (ie apci=off, etc..) cant find it.. hahah |
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| 22:11 | <s32raph> | better question: where is the file that allows me to append to the kernel boot in etch? = ) |
| 22:11 | <jagerman> | /boot/grub/menu.lst most likely |
| 22:12 | <s32raph> | im on lilo |
| 22:12 | <s32raph> | <3 lilo |
| 22:12 | <jagerman> | Your loss :) |
| 22:12 | <s32raph> | from memory somethin like /etc/sbin/lilo.conf |
| 22:12 | <jagerman> | I used to like it, too, until I realized how much easier grub is. |
| 22:12 | <jagerman> | /etc/lilo.conf |
| 22:13 | <george> | once you get it installed |
| 22:13 | <s32raph> | i dont _really havea preference, grub just reminds me of an ex-girlfriend. so i avoid it, hahahhaa how lame eh |
| 22:14 | <qiyong> | anyone free to review one line english? |
| 22:14 | <george> | one line? |
| 22:15 | <s32raph> | i got a one-line for english |
| 22:15 | <s32raph> | words, words.. words! |
| 22:15 | <s32raph> | ; ) |
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| 22:17 | <jagerman> | s32raph: Um, was she fat or something? |
| 22:17 | <s32raph> | can anyone tell me how to _properly_ append a new user to my sudoer file? |
| 22:17 | <jagerman> | visudo |
| 22:18 | <jagerman> | And then... you need to look at that horrid, horrid manpage. |
| 22:18 | <s32raph> | no, she was _too beautiful an she decided to hit up katimavic for a year an not even tell me |
| 22:18 | [~] | jagerman fails to see how grub reminds you of this person. |
| 22:19 | <s32raph> | to say grub reminds me of her is sort of abstract |
| 22:19 | <s32raph> | grub makes me think of the lion king, an shes a hakunamatatta sort-of girl |
| 22:19 | <DanDare> | weird |
| 22:19 | <s32raph> | when i see grub loader i get all depressed an shit |
| 22:19 | <s32raph> | hahahahah |
| 22:20 | <s32raph> | _problem free my ass_ |
| 22:20 | <george> | the thing about grub is it can find kernels (and other things) by their file name |
| 22:21 | <DanDare> | grub is lot of more versatile and clean than lilo |
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| 22:21 | <s32raph> | i only got two kernels, one is Linux, the other usually comes in a bucket; should i need to find more? |
| 22:21 | <DanDare> | not that lilo is bad |
| 22:22 | <jagerman> | It is bad. |
| 22:22 | <jagerman> | It fails to load too often |
| 22:22 | <jagerman> | "LI" NOOOOOO! |
| 22:22 | <s32raph> | drugs r bad mmk |
| 22:22 | <s32raph> | hahahahaah lol @ jagerman |
| 22:22 | <s32raph> | jagerman: well played ; ) |
| 22:23 | <george> | at that point you could probably rawrite the kernel onto a floppy |
| 22:23 | <DanDare> | lol that sucks |
| 22:23 | <DanDare> | Li.. nononon |
| 22:24 | <george> | L0101010101010101010101 |
| 22:24 | <s32raph> | oOO |
| 22:24 | <DanDare> | yeah |
| 22:24 | <s32raph> | george: that looks like binary for "i cant read binary" |
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| 22:24 | <DanDare> | so "wtf happened" |
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| 22:24 | <jagerman> | LILO'D AGAIN! |
| 22:25 | <george> | you actually need handy rescue media |
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| 22:25 | <jagerman> | I had a handy little rescue partition on my external USB hard drive. |
| 22:26 | <jagerman> | Then my grandmother knocked it on the floor. |
| 22:26 | <jagerman> | Game Over. |
| 22:26 | <george> | the rescue partition? |
| 22:26 | <DanDare> | its what happens with things at ground] |
| 22:26 | <jagerman> | The rescue partition, the other partition, the drive, and the case, all of it. |
| 22:26 | <s32raph> | hahahaah she hates u |
| 22:26 | <s32raph> | lol j/k |
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| 22:27 | <jagerman> | Yeah, well, I got to upgrade my notebook harddrive, and ended up with a bigger external drive. |
| 22:27 | <s32raph> | so.. it should be _harder_ to knock off this time... |
| 22:27 | <s32raph> | hahahahahh |
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| 22:29 | <sidd> | I still can't find a program to sync videos to my IPOD! |
| 22:32 | <pctech> | flashplayer, anything for amd64 yet? |
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| 22:37 | <s32raph> | i hear u can sync ipod videos quickly by throwing the ipod @ your tv |
| 22:37 | <s32raph> | apprently this method requires no codecs or 3rd party software.. |
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| 22:39 | <sidd> | lol |
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| 22:40 | <enveezee> | heh |
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| 22:42 | <deb_noob> | Is there anyone here who would e interested in helping me troubleshoot a video issue on first boot after instal with my 4.0 |
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| 22:42 | <enveezee> | !ask |
| 22:42 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 22:42 | <s32raph> | deb_noob: vga=0 fb=800x600 all u need |
| 22:42 | <s32raph> | ; ) |
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| 22:44 | <deb_noob> | thanks sdpkg |
| 22:44 | <dpkg> | bitte, deb_noob |
| 22:44 | <deb_noob> | s32raph |
| 22:44 | <deb_noob> | thanks |
| 22:44 | <s32raph> | de nada = ) |
| 22:45 | <deb_noob> | I'll try that. is it normal that I can't switch to a console when encountering a video issue on boot? |
| 22:46 | <s32raph> | yeah, consoles are based on video right? |
| 22:46 | <s32raph> | vga=0 works awesome |
| 22:47 | <s32raph> | deb_noob: run along now = ) |
| 22:49 | <deb_noob> | I installed Debian 4.0 from DVD, when it reboot after install it was using a video mode that caused my monitor to switch off. i'm using an Nvidia 5200 from MSI. Is the issue a problem with the conf file in X. |
| 22:50 | <deb_noob> | I still need to solve the issue so I can get the video operational |
| 22:50 | <enveezee> | there is no config file, you create it |
| 22:50 | <deb_noob> | There was no options for configuration during the installer |
| 22:51 | <deb_noob> | if use vga=0 what will that do exactly. |
| 22:52 | <s32raph> | deb_noob: its a boot append option, when it says Boot:_ type vga=0, basically its safe-mode 4ur monitor |
| 22:52 | <deb_noob> | ok well, I'll give that a try. Thanks again. |
| 22:52 | <s32raph> | oOO |
| 22:52 | <s32raph> | hey |
| 22:53 | <s32raph> | make sure you append it to the .conf of the loader your using |
| 22:53 | <s32raph> | deb_noob: /etc/lilo.conf or /etc/grub/menu.1st |
| 22:53 | <deb_noob> | ok |
| 22:54 | <s32raph> | jagerman: thx again 4 that 1 = ) |
| 22:54 | <deb_noob> | I will hopefully be back from my Debian box in a few minutes |
| 22:54 | <s32raph> | deb_noob: may the Force be with u |
| 22:54 | <s32raph> | ; ) |
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| 22:57 | <s32raph> | !etch |
| 22:57 | <dpkg> | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). |
| 22:58 | <s32raph> | like my mother used to say, lewis, lift with your legs, not your penis |
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| 23:19 | <deb_noob> | I'm back |
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| 23:20 | <deb_noob> | apparently the information you proided was a debian installer Parameter. I installed debian already. the blank screen screen occurs when after the instal when I boot for the first time |
| 23:21 | <deb_noob> | I'll try to describe my isssue in more detail |
| 23:23 | <deb_noob> | I installed Debian 4.0 from DVD. I removed the DVD as instructed and the system rebooted to boot debian for the first time. At the end of the booting phase my display turned off. I can not switch consoles I'm stuck. the only place I can make any changes is in GRUB since I can't use debian once its loaded |
| 23:24 | <deb_noob> | I was told to use vga=0 fb=800x600 but that appears to be an installer Parameter. Are you recommending I reinstall from scratch with those parameters? |
| 23:24 | <DanDare> | deb_noob, tried yet passing grub parameters to change de video modes? |
| 23:25 | <deb_noob> | not sure exactly how |
| 23:25 | <DanDare> | dont need to reinstall imo |
| 23:25 | <deb_noob> | tried appending it to each line of my boot parameters and it didn't work. |
| 23:25 | <DanDare> | deb_noob, i dunno how to pass those paramters but its what you must try imo |
| 23:25 | <deb_noob> | I used to use lilo, but not too familiar with grub |
| 23:27 | <deb_noob> | ok well that raises an important question how do I add use vga=0 in GRUB ? |
| 23:27 | <deb_noob> | do I enter it in console? |
| 23:28 | <DanDare> | deb_noob, are you right infront of the debian box? |
| 23:29 | <deb_noob> | DanDare, I read in many FAQ's about vga=0 but it was always described as a parameter to be entered at the boot prompt. but I only have a boot prompt when I use the boot CD otherwise I have a grub menu |
| 23:29 | <DanDare> | deb_noob, http://suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t18207.html try what Snakedrivers is saying |
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| 23:37 | <deb_noob> | thanks |
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| 23:52 | <deb_noob> | Atttempt #3 at a solution. I installed Debian 4.0 from 1 DVD. when I booted debian for the first time I get the GRUB Menu. |
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| 23:52 | <deb_noob> | No matter what I select, it boots and then my screen turns off and I can't even switch consoles |
| 23:52 | <deb_noob> | I was told to use vga=0 fb=800x600 |
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| 23:53 | <deb_noob> | I have no idea how to pass those parameters to grub. Can someone help? or at least point me in the right direction |
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| 23:54 | <deb_noob> | I have been reading and trying to solve this issue for the past 9 hours |
| 23:54 | <deb_noob> | I think the problem is at the end of the boot it wants to load X with the wrong video parameters |
| 23:55 | <deb_noob> | but I can't understand why I can't change consoles |
| 23:55 | <deb_noob> | any help ould be appeciated |
| 23:56 | <deb_noob> | please bear in mind I installed successfully, the video problem occurs on first boot after install is complete |
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