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---Logopened Wed Dec 26 00:00:11 2007
---Daychanged Wed Dec 26 2007
00:00<zobel>in etch there is no pidgin yet.
00:00<zobel>etch is too old for that.
00:00<zobel>or use bpo
00:01<ramin>any good guides on installing compiz?
00:01<seanius>ramin: compiz in etch is ancient
00:01<sam_affable>zobel: theres no opera browser too for etch
00:01<seanius>look for backports on tuxfamily
00:01<ramin>k
00:02<zobel>sam_affable: opera is not free
00:02<dli>ramin, http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz
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00:03<ramin>thanks
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00:04<seanius>dli: ramin: if you're using stuff after etch then you also want some other packages, like compiz-fusion-plugins-main and compizconfig-settings-manager
00:05<dli>ramin, try backports for etch, if you are using etch
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00:05<ramin>I don't know where the backports are
00:05<zobel>!bpo
00:05<dpkg>rumour has it, backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update
00:06<Woland>zobel: /var/log/debug
00:06<ramin>ah
00:06<sam_affable>zoble: anyways installed pidgin using ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports ...thnx anyways
00:06<Woland>zobel: wrong
00:06<Woland>zobel: Dec 22 23:07:15 aiur kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:20:24 aiur kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:20:54 aiur kernel: Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:21:31 aiur kernel: warning: many lost ticks.
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:21:31 aiur kernel: Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:21:31 aiur kernel: rip __do_softirq+0x53/0xd5
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:26:04 aiur kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:34:16 aiur kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
00:06<Woland>Dec 22 23:46:18 aiur kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
00:06<Woland>Dec 23 00:10:55 aiur kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
00:06<Woland>zobel: maybe this?
00:06<zobel>yes, sounds like it
00:06<Woland>zobel: it falls in log when kernel booted with acpi=off noapic
00:07<Woland>zobel: when acpi enabled there is no errors
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00:09<Woland>zobel: is there a way to solve this without diabling acpi?
00:09<ramin>is backports.org down or something?
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00:10<zobel>Woland: dunno.
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00:10<Woland>zobel: ok
00:11<zobel>at least now you know where to look for errors :)
00:11<Woland>%+)
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00:12<ramin>yeah, backports is down
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00:18<ramin>oh yeah, Im chatting through irssi
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00:43<ribef>Hi. I was wondering about possible kernel upgrades. Right now I am running lenny. I wish to have iwlwifi, so I am thinking of either waiting for 2.6.23 to go from sid to lenny, or just upgrade to 2.6.24-rc* manually. Anyone have any suggestions? (Oh, also, I'm interested somewhat in the powersaving options made available in 2.6.24 since I'm on a laptop)
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00:45<zobel>ribef: 2.6.23 should enter testing someday.... )
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00:48<infinitycircuit>ribef, if you want the power saving of 2.6.24 then just use it. compiling a kernel is not difficult at all
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00:51<ribef>I've compiled a kernel before. Do I need to do anything special with Debian besides setting it up to boot to make sure things work properly because I have had problems with stuff not working in the past. I forget what though.
00:53<chealer>ribef: no, but you should use the Debian way
00:53<chealer>ribef: which wireless card do you use?
00:54<ribef>Intel 3945
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00:54<chealer>ribef: you're using ipw3945 currently?
00:54<ribef>Debian way? setup my sources.list to point to unstable?
00:54<chealer>!tell ribef about kp
00:54<ribef>no, i'm currently internetless on debian
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01:00<chealer>ribef: did you try setting it up?
01:00<ribef>did i try ipw3945? no. it's non-free, and if i am going to replace it anyway, might as well just not bother.
01:01<ribef>...unless i need internet to actually download a kernel, which i kinda do, but i guess ill just use a flash drive
01:03<chealer>ribef: yes. the problem is that 2.6.22 doesn't support your card. you'll have to mess one way or the other.
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01:04<ribef>which way do you suggest i go?
01:05<ribef>chealer: ^
01:05<chealer>ribef: I'd say using ipw3945 until 2.6.24 is in Debian. but it's just a suggestion.
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01:09<ribef>Hm, my last ipw3945 was kinda sticky though, I remember I had to do something extra to get it since it was non-free and such. And then I remember I tried to overlap it with iwlwifi and I think that made it worse.
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01:09<chealer>ribef: you'll have to add a non-free source anyway due to the non-free firmware used by iwlwifi.
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01:15<ribef>chealer: mhm, i see, yeah, i'm going to have to think this one over
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01:26<ribef>chealer: so from what i am looking at here it says http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.html in 6 days it'll be moved to testing? i remember reading something else about bugs too that it wont' move it until the bugs are solved or is that some other policy?
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01:30<chealer>ribef: it means it won't transition to testing before 6 days. but it could take more. there are no real problems anticipated this tim, like serious bugs as you must refer to. but linux-2.6 always takes a long time to migrate.
01:30<chealer>ribef: BTW, why are you interested in 2.6.23?
01:31<ribef>chealer: cause it has iwlwifi
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01:31<chealer>ribef: it doesn't. iwlwifi will be introduced in 2.6.24.
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01:48<ccg>i have two boxes with the same sources.list, yet on one i can install amule and on the other one i get a dependency error
01:48<ccg>amule: Depends: libcrypto++6 but it is not installable
01:48<ccg>any ideas ?
01:50<chealer>ccg: which Debian suite does the problematic box use?
01:50<ccg>unstable :>
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01:51<chealer>ccg: if you have to ask, unstable isn't for you. you'd better reinstall a more appropriate suite.
01:51<ccg>ok ill do :>
01:55<ribef>chealer: what about this mail thread, maybe i misread it: http://www.nabble.com/sid-package-ipw3945-modules-2.6.23-1-686-----td14444918.html
01:55<ribef>chealer: looking at the second mail in the thread
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01:59<chealer>!iwlwifi
01:59<dpkg>i guess iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets (http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi). Included in mainline 2.6.24 kernel and Debian 2.6.23 kernels ("modprobe iwl4965"). Binary regulatory daemon not required, but difficult to get working with kernels < 2.6.21. Firmwire provided by the 'firmware-iwlwifi' package (lenny/sid). HOWTO at http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi
01:59<chealer>hum
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02:01<chealer>ribef: I missed that, sorry. Debian patched Linux 2.6.23, and it includes iwlwifi. so I suppose it would be more simple for you to upgrade to 2.6.23.
02:01<co>ce'imut
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02:02<ribef>chealer: so ill just wait
02:03<chealer>ribef: as you want, but if I was you, I'd install it now.
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02:05<ribef>chealer: install it now? manually? or how?
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02:06<chealer>ribef: yes. not really manually. you can setup a testing/unstable mix.
02:06<ribef>chealer: sounds sticky.
02:06<chealer>!tell ribef about tum
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02:10<ribef>chealer: i think i'll wait it out.
02:11<i>yes
02:11<sortadi>[OT] What does it mean when IRC clients display this message (Client exited)?
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02:11<i>i don'tknow
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03:14<doze>aloo
03:14<doze>anyone
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03:39<cisko>ls
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04:05<KaiSVK>hi all and marry christmas :)
04:07<KaiSVK>my laptop is functioning well with s2ram -f but it is not in the official list of the supported laptops, so I would like to set my Gnome desktop to execute s2ram -f when I close the lid
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04:08<cisko>i would like to report that the SumpWM packgage is broken in lenny/sid
04:08<cisko>it doesn't even install all the depencies
04:08<dli>cisko, in lenny or sid?
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04:09<cisko>aren't they the same?
04:09<cisko>my login screen says "lenny/sid" :-D
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04:09<KaiSVK>cisko, no the arent
04:09<KaiSVK>*they
04:09<istoc>Hi, I'm trying to get mplayer to play realvideo. I downloaded the essential codec pack for my arch and put it in both /usr/local/lib/codecs and /usr/lib/codecs and it's still complaining about missing codecs and dlls, What should I do?
04:09<cisko>well how do i know what i have
04:10<cisko>debian_version says 4.0
04:10<NeT_DeMoN_> WERE TRYING TO GET 2008 NAMES BEFORE 2008!!!!
04:10<NeT_DeMoN_>Seriously I've never seen one so long!!
04:10<NeT_DeMoN_>*GUINEESSS WORLD RECORD IF YOU ADD YOUR NAME*
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04:11<KaiSVK>cisko, I basically know that I am using testing/lenny cause I remember I installed it :) and in you /etc/apt/sources.list you can see repository you are actually using
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04:12<simonrvn>bah, won't bother, fucker flooded himself off
04:12<KaiSVK>scary scar OP ;)
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04:25<ClauZe>lalalala
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04:53<jerasimos>helloQ
04:54<jerasimos>newbie to linux here
04:54<jerasimos>hello everyone/room
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05:06<kutio_>I have download the i64 package of debian etch but this version doesn't boot
05:06<cahoot>ia64?
05:06<kutio_>ye
05:07<cahoot>meant for ithaniums - not other 64 bit cpus
05:09<dli>kutio_, if you are asking, then, it's not ia64 :) download amd64 instead
05:10<kutio_>my computer is a 64 bit so I downloaded http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/ia64/iso-cd/debian-40r1-ia64-netinst.iso
05:11<kutio_>but this version doesn't boot
05:11<dli>kutio, no, download amd64
05:11<cahoot>if it's not an ithanium you want amd64 despite it might be an intel
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05:12<kutio_>oh k
05:12<kutio_>that's why my cd doesn't boot ?
05:12<cahoot>one possible reason of many
05:13<cahoot>the info you offer doesn't help much
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05:14<cahoot>so it's all a guessing game atm
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05:15<dli>cahoot, if he is asking, it's certainly not ia64
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05:16<cahoot>dli: it's a good guess ;)
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05:18<kutio>it's a core quad CPU
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05:22<cisko>i think i broke my fvwm installation
05:23<cisko>can i somehow reinstall it?
05:23<cisko>like so every configuration is restored
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05:23<dli>cisko, ~/.fvwm or something
05:24<cisko>dpkg --remove --purge fvwm
05:24[~]dpkg rips the still-beating --purge fvwm from cisko's chest, leaving cisko in a coma.
05:24<dli>cisko, if it's system, aptitude --purge remove fvwm
05:24<cisko>oh ya ill do that
05:25<cisko>i don't think i should be in fvwm when i do that?
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05:29<cisko>dli: didn't work
05:29<cisko>all configuration files were keep intact
05:29<cisko>infact dpkg -l still shows the packets
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05:29<cisko>rc fvwm 1:2.5.23-2 F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5
05:30<cisko>o i c how it is
05:30<cisko>you cant use --remove and --purge
05:30<cisko>just purge
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05:31<medhamsh>hi
05:32<medhamsh>sound card not detected
05:32<medhamsh>hi debhelper
05:33<cisko>medhamsh: join the ALSA channel
05:33<medhamsh>how?
05:33<cisko>ask them for the tsalsa script
05:33<medhamsh>how to join cisko?
05:33<cisko>like the way you joined here
05:33<cisko>but replace debian with alsa
05:34<medhamsh>eg<#alsa>
05:34<medhamsh>?
05:34<cisko>sure
05:34<medhamsh>#alsa
05:34<cisko>yea go there
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05:45<cahoot>you meant #alsa on freenode - not?
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05:49<padski>I am seeing an error message: "fdisk: Symbol `sys_errlist' has different size in shared object, onsider re-linking"
05:49<padski>that should be "consider" surely ;-)
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05:51<padski>but seriously, this is on ppc lenny
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05:53<dli>padski, reinstall the package?
05:53<h3xagram>hello! I was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction to download and install kernel-source for my distro. Its Debian 2.6.18-5-k7
05:53<h3xagram>its the latest version of debian
05:54<h3xagram>stable.
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05:56<h3xagram>anyone?
05:56<cahoot>aptitude search linux-source
05:56<aptitude>i don't know, cahoot
05:56<cahoot>sure you do
05:57<h3xagram>i found 2.6.18
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05:57<h3xagram>but not 2.6.18-5-k7
05:57<h3xagram>does it matter?
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05:57<cahoot>try aptitude show linux-source
05:57<cahoot>try aptitude show linux-source-2.6.18
05:58<Kebianizao>Hello
05:58<h3xagram>state is uninstalled
05:58<h3xagram>should I get the 2.6.18 that I found on search linux-source?
05:58<Kebianizao>valgrind 3.3 is unable to run an app: valgrind --log-file=kontact --trace-children=yes --tool=memcheck /usr/bin/kontact --nofork
05:58<h3xagram>As I said theres a -5-k7 at the end of my distro's version
05:58<cisko>yea!
05:59<Kebianizao>I get this output: http://paste.debian.net/45573
05:59<Kebianizao>any idea?
05:59<padski>dli: looks like /sbin/fdisk is a symlink to /sbin/mac-fdisk that I have made. reinstalling the mac-fdisk package make no difference
05:59<cisko>h3xagram: get the one that says 2.6.18
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05:59<dli>padski, build from source
06:00<cahoot>h3xagram: you plan to rebuild the kernel?
06:00<padski>dli: thanks
06:00<h3xagram>cahoot: no, I just want to get my sound working
06:00<h3xagram>I have a Realtek HD onboard
06:00<cahoot>h3xagram: I doubt you need kernelsrc for that
06:00<h3xagram>It worked for Ubuntu
06:00<h3xagram>cahoot: for the manufacturer drive, I do...
06:00<cisko>don't say that word
06:01<h3xagram>lol
06:01<cahoot>snd-hda-intel?
06:01<h3xagram>i'll give that a go after its done installing the source
06:01<h3xagram>however my CPU is AMD
06:01<cahoot>h3xagram: manufacturers driver? ouch
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06:02<h3xagram>i'll use ANYTHING just to get the sound working
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06:03<morgan`>hello
06:03<cahoot>h3xagram: wget http://home.cfl.rr.com/infofiles/tsalsa, run that, join #alsa on freenode and ask for help
06:03<Kebianizao>h3xagram: maybe you'd have to upgrade your kernel
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06:04<Kebianizao>h3xagram: is that a desktop/laptop?
06:04<h3xagram>desktop
06:04<h3xagram>kebi, i got the latest debian as of two days ago and everything is updated
06:05<Kebianizao>h3xagram: what kernel ver?
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06:06<h3xagram>2.6.18-5-k7
06:06<Kebianizao>that's it, your linux is too old, you'd better upgrade. are you on lenny/testing/sid?
06:06<h3xagram>I don't know... I just downloaded the ISOs from Debian's site two days ago.
06:07<Kebianizao>then, you are on etch probably
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06:07<Kebianizao>!etch
06:07<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>).
06:08<Kebianizao>stable doesn't mean state of art, so if you are on desktop you'd probably want to move to testing or even sid
06:08<weasel>no.
06:08<Kebianizao>new hardware with old kernels doesn't match very well
06:08<Kebianizao>weasel: why?
06:08<h3xagram>P.S. tsalsa refuses to run
06:09|-|mode/#debian [+l 294] by debhelper
06:09<cahoot>h3xagram: made it executable?
06:10<Kebianizao>h3xagram: first things first, you need a working sound driver, do you already have that?
06:10<h3xagram>like I said... I can't install that without the kernel-source
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06:11<Kebianizao>are you willing to upgrade to testing?
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06:11<h3xagram>no
06:11<h3xagram>i can't afford to backup my data
06:11<h3xagram>cahoot: yes
06:12<medhamsh>hi
06:12<h3xagram>./tsalsa: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
06:12<Kebianizao>h3xagram: in that case.., well, it's already doable but messy
06:12<h3xagram>./tsalsa: line 1: `<html><head></head><body>#!/bin/bash'
06:12<cahoot>h3xagram: you used wget?
06:12<medhamsh>when ever i try to install something in synaptic it is giving a long list that removes even gnome-common and long list of upgrades
06:12<Kebianizao>h3xagram: that's not a valid script, please paste it on paste.debian.net
06:12<medhamsh>how to cancel all these
06:14<h3xagram>cahoot: I did now... However it says Permission Denied
06:14<h3xagram>I am using root.
06:14<cahoot>is it exec now too?
06:14<h3xagram>or su and sudo at least
06:15<h3xagram>yes
06:15<cahoot>just run it here as user - no probs
06:15<medhamsh>hi cahoot
06:16<medhamsh> when ever i try to install something in synaptic it is giving a long list that removes even gnome-common and long list of upgrades
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06:16<medhamsh>how to cancel all these
06:16<h3xagram_>it just says su: ./tsalsa: Permission denied
06:16<cahoot>medhamsh: is this on debian?
06:16<medhamsh>yes
06:16<Kebianizao>h3xagram: what's the command line?
06:16<h3xagram_>./tsalsa
06:16<medhamsh>yes cahoot
06:17<Kebianizao>ls -l ts*
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06:17<Kebianizao>h3xagram: ^
06:17<cahoot>h3xagram: got noexec or such set on the partition?
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06:17<medhamsh>even i have issue with sound card.
06:17<medhamsh>not detected
06:17<h3xagram_>its -rw-r--r-- 1
06:17<h3xagram_>I'm not sure cahoot
06:17<medhamsh>alsaconf is not able to detect
06:17<cahoot>h3xagram: so it's not made executable
06:17<medhamsh>my sound card
06:17<Kebianizao>h3xagram: chmod u+x tsalsa
06:17<EmleyMoo1>Anyone know an IRCnet server accessible from AOHell?
06:18<medhamsh>anyone help me in joining the alsa channel
06:18<medhamsh>not able to do so
06:18<cahoot>medhamsh: mixing debian releases?
06:18<Kebianizao>medhamsh: let's go step by step and not mixing different issues
06:18<medhamsh>ok cahoot
06:18<medhamsh>sorry
06:18<Kebianizao>medhamsh: stablish some priorities first
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06:19<medhamsh>ok cahoot
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06:19<medhamsh>lets fix the marking list in synaptic first
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06:22<h3xagram_>cahoot: its done.. now what?
06:22<h3xagram_>here it is http://www.pastebin.ca/832586
06:22<cahoot>h3xagram: now join #alsa on freenode and ask for help
06:22<h3xagram_>hmm
06:22<h3xagram_>ok... thanks for the help, cahoot
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06:23<cahoot>h3xagram: but it looks to me it's the usual suspect using snd-hda-intel
06:24<medhamsh>cahoot......
06:25<cahoot>sorry?
06:25<medhamsh>debhelper any ideas
06:25<medhamsh>cahoot...
06:25<medhamsh>any ideas
06:25<medhamsh>for my prob...
06:25<cahoot>with synaptic wanting to remove gnome?
06:25<medhamsh>no
06:25<medhamsh>when i select any package to install
06:26<medhamsh>it is giving a long list of To be Removed which i never marked to remove
06:26<medhamsh>it is also giving a long list of To be Upgraded which i never marked either
06:27<cahoot>medhamsh: did you at some point install pkgs not belonging to your basic version of debian?
06:27<medhamsh>this takes 140mb of packages to download which takes 5 hours of time
06:27<medhamsh>no i never did so
06:27<medhamsh>just installed the os
06:27<cahoot>and what version debian are we talking about?
06:27<leonidas>hi guys, I am trying to start my system in text mode witjout changing the /etc/inittab. How could I do it?
06:28<cahoot>&nodm
06:28<medhamsh>lenny i suppose
06:28<medhamsh>how to verify it
06:28<cahoot>!nodm
06:28<dpkg>Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console
06:28<medhamsh>vi /proc/version?
06:28<cahoot>medhamsh: lsb_release -a
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06:29<medhamsh>No LSB modules are available.
06:29<medhamsh>cahoot
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06:30<medhamsh>testing
06:30<medhamsh>etch
06:30<medhamsh>cahoot
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06:30<Kebianizao>medhamsh: please, try not being so pushy, ppl here do what they can
06:31<cahoot>medhamsh: if you installed as etch and switched to testing - it's natural to get prompted for quite a few upgrades
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06:31<medhamsh>i dint switch to testing
06:31<medhamsh>i just installed etch thats it
06:32<medhamsh>sorry kebianizao
06:32<medhamsh>i dint mean that
06:32<medhamsh>i just wanted to solve my problem
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06:32<medhamsh>sorry if i hurt you
06:33<Kebianizao>medhamsh: no, it's ok, but you'd also like people be calmed and polite
06:33<Kebianizao>there a are hundreds of problems here every day, and ppl has little time usually
06:33<cahoot>medhamsh: could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin just for kicks
06:33<medhamsh>sure
06:33<medhamsh>what is pasebin
06:34<medhamsh>how to put on it?
06:34<cahoot>!paster
06:34<dpkg>paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site.
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06:36<medhamsh>i did it cahoot
06:36<cahoot>got an url?
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06:36<medhamsh>yes giving
06:37<medhamsh>http://paste.debian.net/45579
06:37<cahoot>see this? deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
06:37<medhamsh>yes
06:38<medhamsh>shall i remove it?
06:38<medhamsh>uncomment it
06:38<medhamsh>?
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06:38<medhamsh>my bro might have done it
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06:38<cahoot>deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot i386 DVD Binary-1 20070528-09:41]/ lenny is what you installed from
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06:38<cahoot>so you installed debian testing/lenny
06:39<medhamsh>then when i issue lsb_release -a
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06:39<medhamsh>it is showing as etch
06:39<cahoot>medhamsh: so it's natural to get prompted for quite a few upgrades
06:39<medhamsh>but my friend who gave me the dvd said that it was lenny
06:40<cahoot>lenny==testing atm
06:40<medhamsh>cant i cancel the upgrades?
06:40<medhamsh>and just install the package of my wish?
06:41<cahoot>only if they don't depend on upgraded pkgs
06:41<medhamsh>okie...
06:41<medhamsh>shall we move to sound issue, cahoot?
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06:43<cahoot>if you don't consistently direct yourself to me, others might feel inclined to help out too
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06:44<kraus>hi! does anyone know if there is a file manager that could edit mp3 tags? seems to me that the gnome default manager cannot and thunar neither
06:44<medhamsh>sure
06:44<medhamsh>hi anyone please help me in this regard
06:44<medhamsh>00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
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06:44<medhamsh>is my lspci|grep -i audio
06:45<Kebianizao>kraus: kid3
06:45<Kebianizao>kraus: oh sorry, a file manager.. :S
06:45<medhamsh>but when i run alsaconf no sound card detected message is displayed
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06:45<Kebianizao>kraus: konqueror sort of
06:46<Kebianizao>medhamsh: uname -r
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06:46<kraus>i tried konqueror but i couldn't get it tagging
06:46<kraus>how do you do it
06:46<medhamsh>Kebianizao: 2.6.18-4-k7
06:46<dli>kraus, amarok
06:46<Exses>hi i have a problem with a ttf-opensymbol enybody can tell me what i can do ?
06:47<kraus>amarok isn't a file manager
06:47<Kebianizao>amarok is not a file manager strictly speaking
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06:47<Kebianizao>medhamsh: then try upgrading linux kernel
06:47<medhamsh>how?
06:47<Kebianizao>medhamsh: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686
06:48<Exses>how version is good r0 or r1 ?
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06:48<kraus>but how do you get konqueror to edit tags?
06:48<Kebianizao>Exses: the higher the better
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06:48<medhamsh>thanx kebianizao
06:48<medhamsh>is that all?
06:49<Exses>ok but r1 have a bugs
06:49<Exses>with a uswsusp
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06:49<Exses>no active swap found
06:49<Exses>ttf-opensymbol is broken or not fully installed
06:49<Exses>?
06:49<Kebianizao>kraus: right button, properties, info-meta
06:50<Kebianizao>Exses: what does tff* has to do with uswsusp?
06:50<Exses>ist a 2 different errors
06:50<Kebianizao>Exses: then choose 1 to start
06:50<Exses>ok
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06:50<Exses>ttf-opensymbol gave errors with a subprocess
06:51<Exses>openoffice
06:51<Exses>python-uno
06:51<Exses>openofice-core
06:51<Kebianizao>Exses: could you paste the full output on paste.debian.net
06:51<Exses>i use a security.debian.org
06:51<Exses>and download packet from this mirror
06:52<Kebianizao>Exses: could you explain the command line and paste the output, please?
06:52<Exses>ok one second
06:53<nirgal>Hi all! :) I'm trying to disable ipv6 autoconf. I tried adding "net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf = 0" in /etc/sysctl.conf, but I get a no such key error. How can I load ipv6 module before sysctl is run? I am running testing disto.
06:53<kraus>Kebianizao, where is that info-meta
06:53<Exses>and please remove +q for my IP
06:53<Exses>85.91.139.89
06:53<Exses>its no fear
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06:54<Kebianizao>kraus: please, install kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
06:55<kraus>thx
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07:06<fxiny>edu ? are you studying buddy :P
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07:06<Exses>Errors were encountered while processing:
07:06<Exses> ttf-opensymbol
07:06<Exses>E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
07:06<Exses>its a error
07:07<Exses>Setting up ttf-opensymbol (2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch4) ...
07:07<Exses>Updating fontconfig cache...
07:07<Exses>dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--configure):
07:07<Exses> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 21
07:07<Exses>Errors were encountered while processing:
07:07<Exses> ttf-opensymbol
07:07<dpkg>That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster.
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07:07<Exses>what can i do ?
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07:10<Kebianizao>[13:07:37] <dpkg> That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster.
07:10<Kebianizao>Exses: ^
07:11<Exses>usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
07:11<cahoot>IIRC that's a known bug
07:11<Exses>usr/share/fonts/X11: failed to write cache
07:12<cahoot>look it up on BTS
07:12<Exses>fonts maby ?
07:12<Kebianizao>Exses: http://bugs.debian.or
07:12<Exses>with r0 this problem is not
07:13<Kebianizao>Exses: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432510
07:13<Exses>thanks
07:13<Kebianizao>it's probably a bug on r1 then
07:13<Exses>wating r2 maby :)
07:14<Exses>and system work to slow
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07:14<Dreak>hi
07:15<Dreak>lol it's my
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07:17<Exses>yes i see
07:17<Exses>thanks
07:18<Exses>and know what i do ?
07:18<cahoot>doesn't it say so in one of the followups?
07:19<sybariten>is the live version of debian popular?
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07:20<Exses>Setting up ttf-opensymbol (2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch4) hm ...
07:21<stew>sybariten: ask #debian-live
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07:22<Exses>how mirror is the best know ?
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07:22<suiside>what?
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07:24<sybariten>stew: merci
07:24<Exses>who miror is best know for newest updates
07:24<sybariten>he means which
07:26<suiside>Exses: the point of mirrors is that the content is identical, usually you'd want to use a mirror close to your geographical location
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07:27<emergo>I'm trying to set up vmware-server ( on amd64) but get some error messages. Do I have to run it in chroot ?
07:27<Kebianizao>emergo: 1st, take into account such a non-free app may not supported here, 2nd state error messages
07:28<Kebianizao>3rd, if you have installed the 32bits version, yes you need a 32 bits chroot if you are running native 64bits
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07:30<emergo>Kebianizao: ok, I will post error messages as soon as ive bootet... started the wrong kernel on boot so I dont have the kernel-headers for this kernel
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07:44<fxiny>it takes time to learn but lftp rocks . removing ncftp ...
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07:57<sybariten>what is etch, lenny, sid?
07:57<valdyn>!sid
07:57<dpkg>the <unstable> version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>
07:58<sybariten>i am looking at a download site and they have a lot of versions... cant decide which one to take. They have nightly byuilds, monthly builds... releases... etc
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07:58<Kebianizao>sybariten: you could start with etch
07:59<sybariten>Kebianizao: okay!
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08:07<leonidas>Hi Guys, I have givent trying to use flashplugin for amd 64bit. If anyone has any suggestion for me that would be much appreciated :)
08:08<leonidas>are the extensions in epiphany web browser just for the 32 bit system ?
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08:09<dmobi>can lighttpd handle a site with php and mysql cms?
08:09<Maulkin>Potentially, though fastcgi
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08:10<dmobi>which one is safer?
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08:15<dli>leonidas, I use gnash, free software matters
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08:18<leonidas>dli, do you use gnash for flashplugins only?
08:18<dli>leonidas, gnash is both a player and plugin
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08:29<bony>i am unable to create directories or files in the filesystem when ever i try to do so i get Read-only file system
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08:31<lupine_85>seems fairly self-evident what the problem is
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08:32<lupine_85>filesystems are mounted ro when there are potential errors on them. Try running an fsck
08:32<lupine_85>(shutdown -rF now would be your best bet)
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08:33<phoohb>and loads of folks quits..
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08:35<JW>Successful build & install of 2.6.23.12 kernel but at boot giving error "Root NFS: No NFS server available giving up.", then "NFS: Unable to mount fs via NFS." But make menuconfig shows NFS selected. Any recommendations?
08:36<Maulkin>JW: Sounds like the NFS server isn't passing out the mount point.
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08:37<JW>Any recommendations on a corrective path?
08:37<Maulkin>JW: check the nfs server logs?
08:37<JW>Where do I find them?
08:38<phoohb>/var/log/..
08:38<Maulkin>Erm... on your nfs server.
08:39<JW>There is only one Linux machine runing and there is no external NFS server. It is just the local hard disk.
08:39<Maulkin>dpkg: debtakeover
08:39<dpkg>debtakeover is, like, Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian (woody, not sarge! Use DEFAULT_SUITE=woody and upgrade from there) for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin.
08:40<Maulkin>erm... no. Wrong channel :)
08:40<Maulkin>JW: Well, you seem to be trying to use NFS as a root filesystem
08:40<leonidas>Hi Guys, trying to install GNASH but I have got a response saying that my compiler cannot create executables
08:41<leonidas>I downloaded the source version and extracted it. Then I was trying to compile by ./configure and then got this error message
08:41<fxiny>is ok . mandribble is fine : where's fetora ? :P
08:41<leonidas>am i doing something wrong?
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08:42<phoohb>dpkg: gnash
08:42<dpkg>methinks gnash is a GNU project to create a free software player for movies in Shockwave Flash format. Its developers plan on writing a stand-alone player and a plugin for Firefox. Plugins for other browsers may also be written afterwards. Writing a free software Flash-player has been a priority of the GNU project for some time. Before the launch of Gnash, the GNU project asked for people to assist the GPLFlash project. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
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08:43<Maulkin>lunatic: why are you compiling? :)
08:44<phoohb>leonidas: Im xerxes
08:44<chester_martins>someone use KDE?
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08:44<leonidas>Maulkin, were you talking to me :)
08:44<Maulkin>leonidas: oops, yup :)
08:45<phoohb>leonidas: Im in here too
08:45<phoohb>chester_martins: KDE i heard about it, why?
08:45<leonidas>ok, because i downloaded the gnash.tar.gz version. So to install it I decompressed it and then I thought that I needed to compile it with ./configure
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08:46<Maulkin>leonidas: why not use apt-get? :)
08:46<leonidas>wont let me
08:46<edu>has someone succeed installing tile ?
08:46<Maulkin>leonidas: are you running etch?
08:46<leonidas>yes I am
08:46<leonidas>it says "impossible to find the package"
08:47<leonidas>when I run apt-get install
08:47<Maulkin>ok... lets see if there's a backport
08:47<phoohb>leonidas: test "apt-cache search gnash"
08:47<Maulkin>It's not in etch.
08:48<leonidas>no it is not
08:48<leonidas>i checked
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08:49<phoohb>leonidas: what file did the .configure say was missing?
08:49<Maulkin>leonidas: right, /msg dpkg simple sid backport
08:50<Maulkin>That will tell you how to compile it locally and safely
08:50<leonidas>even with "dpkg -i gnash" it wont let me
08:50<leonidas>though I have downloaded it
08:51<leonidas>i am lost here. phoob; it said that package was not there with apt-get install
08:51<leonidas>maybe I shouldnt be using gcc to compile ??
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08:52<phoohb>leonidas:yes do then (use the installer make file..
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08:54<phoohb>That most be the most common question, how to install this and that (and almost all updates on the mashine is dependens)
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08:55<RobbyBanks>hey folks~ any better driver for WMP54G [V4.1] yes it's a RaLink Chip, currently I use the rt61 from serialmonkey?
08:56<lupine_85>RobbyBanks: rt2x00 by the same people
08:56<lupine_85>(it's in the debian repositories as a module-assistant package)
08:56<RobbyBanks>thats what I did m-a a-i rt2x00-source
08:56<lrp>hellow everyone
08:57<lrp>hello :)
08:57<lupine_85>yep, that's your best bet for now then :)
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08:57<RobbyBanks>Okay thanks mate~
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08:57<RobbyBanks>you spare me hours googlin :-)
08:57<lupine_85>the driver's improving all the time - it should r0x0r in time for the 2.6.24 kernel
08:57<phoohb>hello lrp, happy cristmas.. (and all that)
08:57<lupine_85>(when it will be included by default in the kernl)
08:57<RobbyBanks>hope so :-)
08:57<lrp>thanks the same for all the people here around the world
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08:59<phoohb>lrp: And for Debian, an extra happy cristmas. Okey?
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08:59<lrp>hahahah , of course ;)
08:59<phoohb>yes....
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09:01<phoohb>(almost crismas years around though)
09:02<phoohb>leonidas: How is your installation going???
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09:03<leonidas>not good :)
09:03<leonidas>doing my best though
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09:04<lrp>from debian how can i connect to a switch ? see parallel port ?
09:04<lrp>VT100 terminal , do you know what i mean ?
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09:04<Maulkin>leonidas: not really... serial port?
09:04<Maulkin>erm... lrp^^
09:05<Maulkin>leonidas: if so, you mant minicom
09:05<lrp>yes but not to connect to a modem
09:05<lrp>to connect to ethernet swicth
09:05<sooperkuh>lrp: minicom will do fine for that
09:05<fxiny>or screen
09:06<lrp>im setting up a new one and i need to connect to him using vt100 terminal
09:06<cisko>how do you add window managers to gdm?
09:06<lrp>screen ?
09:06<cisko>screen?
09:06<lrp>xvt mai be good one ?
09:07<phoohb>cisko: you makes a symbolic link, on /etc/gdm/something to windows something
09:07<fxiny>ops . was ethernet not a router
09:07<cisko>phoohb: what do you mean
09:07<lrp>!xvt
09:08<Maulkin>&xvt
09:08<Maulkin>!ping
09:08<dpkg>pong
09:08<cisko>this is the start command for my WM /usr/bin/fvwm-themes-start
09:08<Maulkin>hrm. Just missing from Freenode then
09:08<lrp>dpkg !xvt
09:08<lrp>dpkg find xvt
09:08<phoohb>cisko: /etc/gdm/Sessions
09:08<dpkg>Debian Search of 'xvt' (7 of 29): (/usr/bin/xvt) in x11/xvt ;; (/usr/share/git/.gitrc.rxvt) in utils/git ;; (/usr/lib/cruft/filters-unex/rxvt) in admin/cruft ;; (/usr/share/menu/rxvt-unicode) in x11/rxvt-unicode ;; (/usr/share/menu/rxvt-unicode-ml) in x11/rxvt-unicode-ml ;; (/usr/share/afterstep/desktop/icons/rxvt) in x11/afterstep ;; (/usr/share/menu/rxvt-unicode-lite) in x11/rxvt-unicode-lite.
09:08<cisko>phoohb: no such directory
09:09<lrp>dpkg about xvt
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09:09<Maulkin>lrp: the package is xvt.
09:09<serge>Hello! I have a HDD with the space allocated wrong way. I need to fix the problem. The problem is that somebody created this HDD with dd utility, they simply made dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb , they were 20Gb both, but the models of the hard drives were different, so now fdisk says the following (v option): "Total allocated sectors 40017853 greater than the maximum 39851760". Please advice how to fix it?
09:09<lrp>Maulkin, exactly
09:10<phoohb>cisko: I do, then I have noo ideer (read gdm's readme-files, and or fvwm's readme files)
09:10<lrp>Maulkin, that is the guy for what im doing here rigth >?
09:10<Maulkin>lrp: I'd just use minicom
09:10<cisko>so ill have to uninstal the gdm
09:10<Maulkin>serge: urgh... hrm.
09:10<cisko>and manually run the wm
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09:10<cisko>ill do that then
09:11<Maulkin>serge: I'm guessing fdisk can't fix it?
09:11<lrp>Maulkin, i dont know how to use minicom :(
09:11<serge>Maulkin: ..what tool can help then?
09:11<Maulkin>serge: you could *try* parted, but I'm not sure if it'll help.
09:11<Maulkin>serge: try fdisk first though
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09:12<Maulkin>lrp: Well, you can learn. It's not hard.
09:12<lrp>Maulkin, if you can give me a hand i can give a try
09:12<jsd666>Hello, I have a problem with mouse support since I recompiled the kernel. The mouse is still available with lsusb but it doesn't work anymore.
09:12<Maulkin>jsd666: well, what did you break?
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09:12<phoohb>jsd666: maybe it doesnt have any balls
09:13<jsd666>phoohb: it's laser or what do u mean?
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09:13<Maulkin>jsd666: ignore him. Now... what do you mean by doesn't work?
09:14<jsd666>Maulkin: I used the config file from the old kernel but now it wont work
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09:14<phoohb>jsd666: dmesg says anything about any mouse?
09:14<jsd666>Uhm...
09:14<serge>Maulkin: ..the last partition on that hdd has 8e fs type (LVM). fdisk seems not very helpful in it except to detect the problem. The system from that hdd seems boot ok, but sometimes kernel complains about, like "want xxxx sectors report yyy sectors"
09:14<Maulkin>Won't work is about as useful as doesn't work
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09:15<Maulkin>serge: so... it's got more partitions?
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09:15<Maulkin>Because the command you pasted above wasn't for one partition :)
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09:15<jsd666>it isn't in the /dev/input and the /dev/input/mice doesn't make any output
09:16<jsd666>dunno if I explain it right *swt*
09:17<Maulkin>jsd666: you have compiled your own kernel. We can't really support that fully. You may need to symlink /dev/input/mice to your real device
09:17<serge>Maulkin: yes, hda1 -- fat32, hda2 - ext2 (/boot), hda3 (LVM) - / . The last one is 16Gb, but used space is about 3 Gb only, so there is a hope, that overallocated space is not in affect to data....
09:17<lrp>im using xvt , now what i have to do to connect to the terminal ?
09:17<Maulkin>serge: parted (or gparted from a graphical environment) bay be able to help
09:18<Maulkin>lrp: I told you. minicom
09:18<lrp>Maulkin, okoko installing minicom
09:18<jsd666>Maulkin: but how do I find out which is the real device
09:18<jsd666>I just know that it
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09:18<jsd666>*it's at usb 2-1
09:18<serge>Maulkin: ok, thanks. Let me try to see.
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09:19<Maulkin>jsd666: you may have to use mknod.
09:20<lrp>Maulkin, starting minicom
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09:21<lrp>Maulkin, Device /dev/ttyS1 is locked.
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09:22<lrp>Maulkin now what ? Device /dev/ttyS1 is locked.
09:22<fxiny>so maybe i was right : screen /dev/ttyS1 should do it
09:22<Maulkin>lrp: What's it locked by?
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09:22<lrp>i dont know
09:23<Maulkin>use lsof
09:23<lrp>lsaf?
09:23<lrp>lsaf
09:23<Maulkin>no... lsof
09:23<lrp>ohh good good
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09:24<lrp>lsof |grep ttyS1 ?
09:24<Silensius>lsof | grep ttyS1
09:24<fxiny>weasel: can screen connect to /dev/ttyS1 ?
09:24<Silensius>:>
09:25<weasel>fxiny: no. what could possibly be the cause of that?
09:25<lrp>mm seems like minicom still running
09:25<lrp>minicom killed
09:25<lrp>let me try again
09:25<lrp>OPTIONS: I18n
09:25<lrp>Compiled on Jan 7 2007, 18:00:43.
09:25<lrp>Port /dev/ttyS1
09:25<lrp>ups
09:26<fxiny>weasel: instead of using minicom . ok i'm wrong .
09:26<lrp>Maulkin, now ??
09:26<lrp>what i have to type ?
09:26<Maulkin>lrp: read man minicom.
09:26<Maulkin>lrp: I can't tell you everything to type
09:26<lrp>LOL
09:26<lrp>ok
09:27<lrp>i can see only a blank screen , anyway im going to read , 5 minutes
09:27<Maulkin>And now, I need to go to get food.
09:27<Maulkin>s/get/cook/
09:28<Silensius>does debian cook a girl for christmas day :-)
09:28<Maulkin>!hot-babe
09:28<Maulkin>Aww.
09:28<fxiny>cooking ? btw where the damned spambot are today ? :P
09:28<lrp>good minicom -s
09:28<fxiny>all dead
09:29<lrp>Maulkin, minicom -s i have to setting up the device rigth ?
09:29<Maulkin>fxiny: we're dealing with them :P
09:29<Maulkin>*gone*
09:29<fxiny>Maulkin: hahaha i really appreciate it , slurp :)))
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09:30<fxiny>i noticed all the kong hotmail/spammmers are missing as well in my logs
09:30<lrp>Maulkin, now what ??
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09:34<lrp>still disconnected
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09:38<lrp>Maulkin, hey minicom does not working for me
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09:40<lrp>anyone else can help me out here ?
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09:43<Kebianizao>lrp: Maulkin is gone
09:43<dmobi>debian or ubuntu is better for server? which has better comunity support?
09:43<lrp>yeah i can see , no one else can help me out here about connect to my ethernet switch from debian using minicom or something?
09:44<lupine_85>dmobi: you expect an unbiased response? :p
09:44<lupine_85>debian, of course
09:44<cahoot>dmobi: a resounding yes
09:44<lupine_85>lrp: do you have the port settings right?
09:44<dmobi>i have debian. but i want to be happy that i have. so i want a suporting debian response :D
09:45<lrp>i dont know , its the first time i do this in linux
09:45<lrp>in debian
09:45<lupine_85>for(i = 0; i < MAXINT; i++) cout << "Debian rox0rs" << endl;
09:45<Kebianizao>lrp: why minicom?
09:45<lrp>using hyperterminal is a child game , but here i dont know how
09:45<lupine_85>lrp: you need your parity, bit rate, etc settings to be correct
09:45<Kebianizao>lrp: gtkterm or cutecom
09:45<lupine_85>but yeah, minicom is a biatch to use
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09:46<lrp>Kebianizao, cutecom ? is good one to do that ?
09:46<Banana_Joe>Hallo :) eine frage. ich wollte mir mal Sidux angucken. da heute eine neue version rausgekommen ist. nun ist es aber so das es 3 archi gibt. eine i386 eine i386-am64 und eine am64 ... ich wollte fragen was der unterschied zwischen i386 und i386-amd64 ist :)
09:46<fxiny>hahaha nice nick
09:46<cahoot>!de
09:46<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de)
09:46<Banana_Joe>ohhh
09:46<lrp>Kebianizao, them ????
09:46<Banana_Joe>im so sorry ^^ i forgett the .de :D
09:47<Banana_Joe>sorry sorry sorry :D
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09:47<Kebianizao>lrp: yes, it's a terminal emulator
09:47<lrp>Kebianizao, is a good one ?
09:47<Kebianizao>install either or both of them and just test
09:47<lrp>ok
09:48<lupine_85>ISTR "komport" being good... but it's not in Debian?
09:50<lupine_85>ah, looks like it's no longer actively-developed
09:50<lupine_85>shame
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09:53<lrp>Kebianizao, there is one trouble , emulation mode
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09:56<Kebianizao>lrp: what do you exactly need?
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09:56<lrp>Kebianizao, im in
09:56<lrp>Kebianizao, i made it
09:56<lrp>Kebianizao, now let me grite this in my notebook
09:56<lrp>:)
09:57<Kebianizao>congrats ;)
09:58<lrp>now im having one trouble
09:58<lrp>he is asking me for password
09:58[~]Kebianizao looks in his cristal ball
09:58<lrp>cristal ball ?
09:58[~]Kebianizao waves hands around the ball
09:58<Kebianizao>too cloudy, man ;)
09:58<JasonS>who is asking for a password
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09:59<Kebianizao>lrp's switch :D
09:59<lrp>lol , wait let me read about it
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09:59<infester>hi guys! I'm trying to configure and compiling my own kernel but i get kernel panic, it says the root partition cannot be mounted. i've got support for ata and sata and my rootfs which is ext3, is there something else ive forgotten? thanks
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10:00<Kebianizao>infester: maybe you forgot creating an initrd image
10:00<cahoot>inbuilt or modular and in the latter case with or forgotten initrd?
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10:01<infester>Kebianizao do i have to do that?
10:01<Kebianizao>infester: depends on what do you have and how do you want it
10:01<Kebianizao>it could also be a problem in the boot commandline
10:01<Kebianizao>and also answer cahoot explicit question
10:02<infester>problem is i cannot access internet from my linuxinstallation, neither nic's are supported, thats why im trying to recompile the kernel, so i cant get all specifications from here
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10:02<infester>Kebianizao generally speaking, when would a initrd be required?
10:02<Kebianizao>infester: so where's the problem: in the internet access or in the kernel booting?
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10:03<infester>for now, kernel booting, internet access is a later problem. only saying this because i cannot access the linuxdata from here
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10:03<Kebianizao>infester: good question ;) when you need userspace do or load something that is needed before the real system is available
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10:03<Kebianizao>infester: e.g.: load a filesystem module or special device module
10:03<Kebianizao>i.e.: special device needed to boot
10:04<dli>infester, can you find a livecd which supports at least one nic?
10:04<infester>so, that would be required if ive chosen to implement the fs support as a module... which i havent :/
10:04<cahoot>infester: if you build a custom kernel no cause to make an initrd, but then you must make the support for drives and filessystem statically built - not as modules
10:04<infester>yea, right. im pretty sure i have, im gonna boot back there
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10:04<Kebianizao>infester: and that also include things like e.g. lvm or dm_crypt
10:04<infester>dli unfortunantly not :(
10:05<infester>im not raiding anything
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10:05<infester>alright, i'm just going to go back there and check things twice, might come back here later :) thanks guys
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10:06<Kebianizao>infester: wait
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10:06<Kebianizao>infester: you can do one thing, add break=mount to the boot command line
10:06<infester>ok
10:06<Kebianizao>that will lead you to a command line shell where you could investigate the problem
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10:07<Kebianizao>look for the root device and try to mount it manually on /root
10:07<Kebianizao>and then double check the command line
10:07<infester>ok thanks
10:07<Kebianizao>np :)
10:07<infester>laters
10:07<Kebianizao>g'luck
10:07<infester>tyty
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10:17<Friday13>hallo
10:18<Kebianizao>hi low
10:18<Friday13>kann mir evt jemand was sagen?
10:18<Kebianizao>!nl
10:18<dpkg>nl is The Netherlands. Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl.
10:18<Kebianizao>?
10:18<Kebianizao>!de
10:18<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de)
10:19<Kebianizao>just in case ;)
10:19<Friday13>thx
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10:22<noname001>a jak bedzie po polsku ?
10:22<noname001>sorry I was only a joke :)
10:23<noname001>sorry It was only a joke :)
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10:30<infester>Kebianizao :)
10:30<infester>didn't really work out as expected but atleast i got something else working on i guess
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10:31<infester>at boot i now got a list of three partitions that i might be intrested in booting "sda":s, thing is, it's a laptop, and i dont have any scsi:s :S
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10:33<cahoot>sata?
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10:34<infester>hmm, are sata:s called sda aswell? because on the pre-made fstab and menu.lst hda3 is my root partition...
10:34<cahoot>yes
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10:34<infester>i'm not really sure if i have sata or ata, thats why i implemented both
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10:35<cahoot>just change the grub line 'on line' and test
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10:36<infester>cahoot here is my fstab http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0365jr4.jpg
10:36<infester>on line?
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10:36<cahoot>yes - hit 'e' in the grub menu
10:36<infester>and here is my menu.lst http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0367tq8.jpg
10:36<infester>oh
10:37<infester>hmm, do i get into the menu.lst by hitting 'e' in menu?
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10:37<cahoot>yes
10:37<cahoot>then 'b ' to initiate boot
10:38<infester>okay
10:38<infester>apparantly i've got a normal ata-disk
10:38<infester>so what do you sugest i should change in menu.lst?
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10:39<cahoot>you could just test the option without actually change menu.lst via the method I suggested above
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10:40<infester>i didnt really get what option to change after pressing e
10:40<infester>the grub line?
10:41<cahoot>change hd* to sd* see it allows boot
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10:41<infester>okay thanks
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10:42<cahoot>i e /dev/sda3
10:43<jred184_>what software can I use to ftp web cam images to a website automatically?
10:44<cahoot>motion?
10:44<jred184_>....that would be nice
10:44<jred184_>I want to have a live "truck" cam
10:44<cahoot>motion is the name of an app
10:44<jred184_>oooh
10:44<jred184_>i c
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10:49<infester>cahoot thanks alot, worked by choosing sda3 as root. how that can be is a mystery to me thou since i have an ata-disk
10:49<Kebianizao>maybe what happenned is that you enabled ide drivers using libata and hence seen as scsi disk
10:50<Kebianizao>you would only have to change boot command line andfstab
10:50<infester>hmm, i shouldnt enable ide drivers using libata?
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10:50<Kebianizao>infester: maybe you did
10:50<infester>so there are two ways to support ide drives
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10:52<Kebianizao>think so
10:52<infester>alright, ill get to that after getting one of the nic:s to work :) thanks!
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10:53<Kebianizao>:)
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10:56<christmas>quit
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11:02<slowpoke->Anyone what to do when i get this error? E: Package kernel-package has no installtion candidate
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11:04<aptituz>slowpoke-: what about: adding some sources to sources.list and run aptitude update?
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11:06<Kebianizao>bye
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11:08<aptituz>don't query me. kthx
11:08<slowpoke->why?
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11:09<aptituz>because there is no reason for it.
11:09<slowpoke->so, where do i get thoses sources?
11:10<aptituz>See http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
11:10<slowpoke->thx
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11:12<zobel>!4.0r1
11:12<dpkg>somebody said 4.0r1 was the latest update of Debian 4.0, published Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:47:02 UTC. See http://times.debian.net/1161-etch-r1
11:12<zobel>!4.0r2
11:12<zobel>dpkg: 4.0r2 is the latest update of Debian 4.0, published Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:42:36 UTC
11:12<dpkg>okay, zobel
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11:40|-|[zobel] changed the topic of #debian: 4.0r2 released /msg dpkg etch | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg no public key | THIS IS NOT #ubuntu | FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC | /msg dpkg bts | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg weird-keyboard-layout
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11:44<zobel>!etch
11:44<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>).
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12:15<icy>Hello, is there a command line command to know if my kernel use all 4 cores?
12:16<Scurz_>cat /proc/cpuinfo
12:16<infinitycircuit>i believe you can also check /sys/devices/system/cpu
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12:17<klando>icy, you surely want to look at utility 'lshw'
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12:19<faheem__>Hi. Anyone got any comments about how well 'The Debian System' book is aging? I see it was published back in 2005. Is most of the material still relevant?
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12:21<Alcap>hello
12:21<Alcap>can anyone tell me why my sempron 3100+ is running at 1000MHz on the 2.6.22-3 kernel?
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12:22<Alcap>and it's not even a dynamic frequency
12:23<phoohb>Alcap: how ca you tell?
12:24<Alcap>cat /proc/cpuinfo
12:24<Alcap>when I increase the CPU load the frequency doesn't get any higher:(
12:24<Alcap>my computer is sloggish like hell when playing WoW
12:24<Alcap>it can take up to five seconds to open iceweasel
12:25<phoohb>Alcap: Disk access (as for iceweasel) doesnt depend on cpu
12:29<Alcap>phoonhb: CPU controls the opening of files on the disk
12:29<Alcap>and this wasn't happening until I ran dist-upgrade
12:29<Alcap>I had the 2.6.22-ck1
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12:29<xujingjing>hi
12:30<phoohb>Alcap: okey, okey.. (but disk have their own speed on read/write, test keep the open, or something
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12:30<xujingjing>how to merge bootsplash to initrd.img?
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12:30<Alcap>phoohb
12:30<Alcap>I know that, but there are other things pointing to a kernel option xD
12:31<Alcap>CPU frequency in /proc/cpuinfo
12:31<phoohb>Alcap: I have no ideer (and now I havto split
12:31<Alcap>lol
12:31<Alcap>ok
12:31<Alcap>cya;)
12:31<xujingjing>?
12:31<Alcap>thanks anyways
12:31<xujingjing>any body here
12:31<Alcap>*anyway
12:31<xujingjing>8-)
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12:53<path>!iso
12:53<dpkg>[iso] a cd-image. CD images of debian are available at http://www.debian.org/CD, or debian-cd.com, or http://www.linuxiso.org, or something I do with needle and thread, or ask me about "netinst", a 32 MB bootable base-installation ISO, or jigdo, or ask me about "jigdo", or did I mention "jigdo"?, or see "create cd image", or a partially-correct way of referring ISO 9660
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13:16<lrp>hey any1 here can tell me what is root guard ?
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13:32<Alcap>can anyone tell me why is my cpu frequency as low as 1GHz?
13:32<infinitycircuit>Alcap, do you hve cpu frequency scaling turned on?
13:32<Alcap>how do I check?
13:33<Alcap>I just installed the new default kernel, so I don't know
13:33<Alcap>*I've
13:33<infinitycircuit>just use cat to check them
13:33<Alcap>cat to which file?
13:33<Alcap> /proc/cpuinfo?
13:33<infinitycircuit>scaling_governor is a start
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13:33<infinitycircuit>wait whoops it didn't get one of my messages sorry
13:33<infinitycircuit>cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
13:34<Alcap>no output
13:34<Alcap>as root
13:34<infinitycircuit>does the cpufreq directory even exist?
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13:34<infinitycircuit>if it doesn't then cpufreq is not even enabled
13:35<Alcap>yes it does
13:35<Alcap>contents of cpufreq folder are
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13:35<Alcap>desktop-putchi:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq# ls
13:35<Alcap>affected_cpus ondemand scaling_driver stats
13:35<Alcap>cpuinfo_cur_freq scaling_available_frequencies scaling_governor
13:35<Alcap>cpuinfo_max_freq scaling_available_governors scaling_max_freq
13:35<Alcap>cpuinfo_min_freq scaling_cur_freq scaling_min_freq
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13:35<infinitycircuit>Alcap, use paste
13:35<Alcap>damn flood prevention xD
13:35<infinitycircuit>!paste
13:35<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
13:36<Alcap>did you get it at least?
13:36<infinitycircuit>as root you can try "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
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13:36<Alcap>scaling_governor doesn't exist in cpufreq
13:36<Alcap>wait
13:36<Alcap>it does
13:37<Alcap>just a sec
13:37<Alcap>desktop-putchi:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq# cat scaling_governor
13:37<Alcap>ondemand
13:37<Alcap>desktop-putchi:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq#
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13:37<Alcap>ondemand means that it's a dynamic freq?
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13:37<infinitycircuit>Alcap, ondemand will dynamically scale yes
13:38<infinitycircuit>it is the best kernel governor
13:38<Alcap>well, it's not lol
13:38<Alcap>I mean
13:38<Alcap>it doesn't get any higher than 1000Mhz
13:38<infinitycircuit>Alcap, then switch to performance
13:38<Alcap>how?
13:38<Alcap>I've never done this in linux:(
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13:38<infinitycircuit>as root you can try "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
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13:39<Alcap>with the quotes?
13:39<JW>Saw startup error/warnings & tried to find them in /var/log/syslog. Seems like a lot more messages there but don't see same console msgs on startup. Anybody know where to find startup messages?
13:39<madprobe>JW, use dmesg
13:40<JW>thanks!
13:40<madprobe>JW, np :)
13:40<Alcap>JW: use dmesg | more
13:40<Alcap>so that you can scroll down
13:40<infinitycircuit>Alcap, no quotes
13:40<Alcap>infinitycircuit, I've already tried that
13:40<Alcap>nothing happens
13:41<Alcap>was I suposed to change anything on the syntax you gave me?
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13:41<Alcap>or do I need to restart the deamon?
13:41<infinitycircuit>what is the output of
13:42<Alcap>desktop-putchi:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq# echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
13:42<Alcap>desktop-putchi:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq#
13:42<infinitycircuit>cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
13:42<infinitycircuit>no need to restart
13:42<Alcap>desktop-putchi:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
13:42<Alcap>1800000 1000000
13:42<Alcap>1800000 should be the default xD
13:42<infinitycircuit>out of curiosity, why?
13:42<infinitycircuit>but if you want that
13:42<Alcap>do I echo it into scaling_governor?
13:42<infinitycircuit>you can set it manually too
13:43<infinitycircuit>with scaling_cur_freq
13:43<Alcap>infinitycircuit: because it's the CPU's maximum speed, it's a sempron 3100+
13:43<Alcap>./scaling_cur_freq?
13:43<infinitycircuit>Alcap, i mean there's no reason for a cpu to default at its max speed
13:43<infinitycircuit>Alcap, unless you want to turn your computer into a space heater
13:43<Alcap>lol
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13:44<Alcap>well
13:44<Alcap>in my case it needs to be
13:44<Alcap>my computer is running a VM permanently
13:44<Alcap>it's running at 100% CPU usage
13:44<Alcap>you can't imagine the sluggishness
13:44<infinitycircuit>Alcap, yeah you should kick it up then with either the performance governor or manually setting the frequency
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13:45<Alcap>it is set to performance, but I don't know if it will help...
13:45<Alcap>the main problem is when I'm playing WoW
13:46<Alcap>infinitycircuit can you help me out with another thing?
13:47<Alcap>a lot less trivial though
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13:47<infinitycircuit>Alcap, i can try haha
13:47<Alcap>well
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13:47<Alcap>I'm having problems with fonts
13:47<Alcap>for example
13:47<Alcap>I'm going to take a screenshot to show you
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13:51<Alcap>http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturaecraoq6.png
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13:51<Alcap>the problem is the size
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13:51<Alcap>every font in the system was really small
13:51<Alcap>I had to change it manually
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13:51<Alcap>some sizes I could change
13:51<Alcap>others I couldn't
13:52<Alcap>like amarok's
13:52<Alcap>is there a config file where I can alter that?
13:52<Alcap>(not for amarok but for every app)
13:52<Alcap>gnome menu was so tiny on boot that I had to get real close to the screen to read it:S
13:53<Alcap>infinitycircuit
13:53<jabka>how can i dynamicaly set varibales inside rules file ? like in foo=`ls -l`and use it . as $(foo)
13:54<madprobe>jabka, use aliases
13:54<madprobe>jabka, if u wanna run commands like the one u wrote
13:54<infinitycircuit>Alcap, umm i don't know
13:54<infinitycircuit>Alcap, i believe that you can use a .gtk2rc file in your home directory for gtk apps
13:54<infinitycircuit>Alcap, but i don't know the details
13:55<jabka>modprobe but alias will call the command each time i use the var i wish to run it only once
13:55<Alcap>infinitycircuit, I don't know either, and I'm not in the mood to purge the graphical environment:(
13:56<Alcap>infinitycircuit, btw, I've figured why is scaling_governor malfunctioning:P
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13:56<Alcap>max frequency is set to 1Ghz
13:56<Alcap>how do I change that?
13:56<madprobe>jabka, do u mean u wanna store the o/p somewhere and retrueve that when u call the command next time?
13:56<jabka>yes
13:56<madprobe>retrieve*
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13:56<Alcap>echo 180000 > scaling_max_freq ?
13:56<infinitycircuit>Alcap, yes that should work
13:57<madprobe>jabka, i think u will have to use script for this
13:57<jabka>im working on a Rules file
13:57<jabka>i tried `some thing ` but it didn't work
13:58<Alcap>infinitycircuit: cpu MHz : 1800.000
13:58<madprobe>which will store the o/p in a file and show it at console when u first run it. next time if the file exists it will just print its contents
13:58<Alcap>yay
13:58<jabka>*foo= `bla bla `
13:58<madprobe>jabka, the way u using will run the command everytime
13:58<Alcap>I don't get why did the scaling_governor had the wrong variables though:S
13:59<jabka>i ment like that : foo=`command` <newline> tar $(CURDIR)/debian/... -zxf foo
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14:00<madprobe>if u wanna do this then u can use `command` inline with the tar command
14:01<madprobe>jabka, tar `pwd`/debian/... -zxf `command`
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14:02<jabka>i know this the problem is that i need to set the `command` as string like if you do var=abc and use$(var) inside tar ... $(var) or mkdir $(var) etc ..
14:02<Alcap>infinitycircuit, btw, you don't know if there's some new ntfs driver for linux, other than ntfs-3g?
14:02<Alcap>everytime I write something to the disks the driver process eats my cpu
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14:04<madprobe>jabka, this should work too, e.g. "foo=`pwd` && ls $foo", however command will run everytime u invoke it
14:04<infinitycircuit>Alcap, no i don't believe there is
14:04<Egxone>have someone fo you experience with dm_crypt?
14:04<Alcap>damn it
14:04<Alcap>anyway, thanks for the help
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14:04<Alcap>I really apreciate it
14:05<Alcap>*apreciated
14:05<jabka>madprobe thank you
14:05<madprobe>jabka, did it solved ur problem?
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14:06<infinitycircuit>Alcap, no problem
14:06<jabka>actually not .. but i got an idea ..
14:06<jabka>here is the full info :http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-to-create-debian-package-from-icon.html
14:06<madprobe>jabka, may i know it? just curious
14:06<Egxone>no one ?
14:07<jabka>madprobe : create a seprate script that will be outside rules file that will do all the work
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14:07<jabka>im trieng to work only with one file
14:07<madprobe>jabka, oh nice
14:07<jabka>the script or the idea ?
14:08<madprobe>jabka, idea, (i didnt saw the script)
14:09<jabka>moment .. is there a way to find the directory inside a tar file ? (main dir)
14:09<madprobe>jabka, although i dunno abt rules files
14:09<jabka>man abt
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14:09<jabka>what is abt ?
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14:09<jabka>oo about ..
14:09<madprobe>jabka, may be u want apt
14:10<jabka>what do you mean ?
14:10<madprobe>jabka, use tar with t option and then grep for the entry
14:10<madprobe>nothing, u asked abt abt, i thought u meant apt
14:10<jabka>:D
14:10<madprobe>abt=about
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14:11<jabka>for some reason when i write : tar -t tar.gz file it just stucks ..
14:11<madprobe>jabka, use f option too, coz u r giving it a file to work with
14:12<madprobe>tar tf <filename>
14:12<simonrvn>aptitude: u
14:12<aptitude>Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201
14:12<simonrvn>aptitude: r
14:12<aptitude>R is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. And it's "are", not "r"
14:12<fxiny>Egxone: i've done it on sarge . check http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/428
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14:13<Egxone>That look great. Thanks fxiny.
14:14<fxiny>Egxone: np
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14:15<jabka>haleluea .. tar -tf filename.tar.gz |` awk '{print $1}'`
14:15<jabka>to get the main dir
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14:17<madprobe>jabka, dunno, tar tf /blob/ebooks/aoapdf.tar.gz |`awk '{print $1}'` isnt working here
14:17<madprobe>may be coz main dir is not in the curdir
14:18<jabka>@$@$
14:18<madprobe>what?
14:18<jabka>im frustrated ..
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14:19<madprobe>jabka, u r just one step behind solution
14:20<jabka>but it still will be run each time i invoke that var ...
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14:21<jabka>btw is the explenation is understanabe enugth on the link ?
14:21<lrp>hey there
14:22<lrp>why my usb device is too slow ?
14:22<madprobe>jabka, the link is redirecting me to http entry on wikipedia :(
14:22<jabka>ha ? : http://bsh83.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-to-create-debian-package-from-icon.html
14:22<lrp>exaplme with mp3 when i try to copy friles to there the speed became kinda slow
14:22<lrp>like usb1 , however im using usb2 in my workstation
14:23<Egxone>usb 1 driver?
14:23<madprobe>jabka, now its seems okay
14:23<jabka>madprobe : strange .
14:23<madprobe>jabka, page opened
14:23<wopp>I'm trying to upgrade from 2.4.27-2-386 but run in to problems. Getting the following: WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
14:23<wopp>2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
14:23<wopp>before installing glibc.
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14:23<lrp>any idea?
14:23<wopp>...but...
14:24<madprobe>jabka, u urself try the first link u gave me, see if it redirects u to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP
14:24<wopp>...when I try apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6
14:25<jabka>no i see it to .. it is strange ..
14:25<jabka>now
14:25<wopp>...I get complaints about libc6
14:26<madprobe>jabka, what is an icon set?
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14:26<madprobe>jabka, set of kde icon theme?
14:26<wopp>...and when I try to upgrade libc6 I get complaints that I use to old of a kernel...
14:26<jabka>no it gives you the abuilty to choose it
14:27<jabka>it install all the the dir exactly where you need it
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14:27<madprobe>jabka, ok
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14:30<jabka>bummer this line doesn't work "tar -tf `ls *.tar.gz` | `awk '{print $1}'`"
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14:31<madprobe>jabka, the article on the link u gave me is cut from right, lines aren't complete
14:32<jabka>oo thank you ill change it (i guess the <pre > signs do it
14:32<jabka>or ill cut the rules .. to be less then 60 chars
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14:33<madprobe>jabka, cutting the rules will be bad idea, cant u change the width of the article?
14:33<MrJoey>Quick question about PCMCIA: Are there multiple versions of PCMCIA, or will a really new PCMCIA card work in a really old laptop (provided there is an open-source driver for Linux)
14:33<zapata>Does anyone know how i can access this computer from another one?
14:33<MrJoey>ssh?
14:33<jabka>i ment making the lines smaller using the `\` char
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14:33<MrJoey>You could install the SSH daemon on the computer you want to access, then use ssh from another Linux-based computer
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14:34<Aragon>thanks Ganneff
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14:34<madprobe>jabka, if u can incr the width it will be best, readability will also be maintained
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14:34<@Ganneff>Aragon: behave or it gets back...
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14:34<jabka>i can't change it (don't know how )
14:34<fxiny>do doo be do
14:35<zapata>How about accessing a linux computer from a windows one?
14:35<jabka>mingw
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14:35<streuner>zapata: winscp
14:35<cahoot>zapata: putty is a ssh client you can use on win
14:35<madprobe>jabka, then using smaller lines is the only option left
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14:36<Aragon>r2 ralsed ?
14:36<Aragon>where ?
14:36<jabka>madprobe , weal it is time to take a bite from the cake (Alis in wonder land)
14:36<streuner>zapata: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP
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14:37<zapata>thanks streuner, ill check it out
14:37<Aragon>bad chanserv :)
14:37<madprobe>jabka, thats nice
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14:38<flawd>there seem to be a program that sets a random wallpaper on the root window when I start fluxbox... any idea what it can be?
14:38<flawd>trying to figure out how to disable it
14:39<fxiny>febe ?
14:39<fxiny>another name
14:39<Aragon>where can i download r2 version ?
14:39<madprobe>flawd, check what prog is starting at startup in the file .fluxbox/startup
14:39<streuner>flawd: check out FAQ (docs) about flux (fluxbox.sf.net)
14:39<Ganneff>Aragon: from the mirrors, when the pulse is done.
14:40<flawd>it seems to be systemwide
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14:40<flawd>I think its not only setting it for fluxbox...
14:40<Aragon>i use www.debian.org
14:40<streuner>Ganneff: dondelelcaro warn people before (bans remove), i think thats a good idea...
14:40<Aragon>but have only r1
14:40<Ganneff>streuner: hrm. maybe, but whats the difference?
14:41<streuner>Ganneff: nothing, but the flood is nasty
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14:41<Ganneff>unfortunately, but unavoidable, and every now and then we need a cleanup.
14:41<klimy>hi
14:41<Egxone>hey klimy
14:41<madprobe>flawd, still u can check at startup file of the fluxbox, it may be fbsetbg
14:42<flawd>madprobe, thanks I did but it's not.
14:43<Egxone>i go to bad it was a hard day at work good night guys
14:43<madprobe>or used in the file .fluxbox/init under the entry rootCommand as fbsetbg -r <dirname>
14:43<jabka>madprobe, i have to go now (the library is closing) thank for the help
14:43<Aragon>i have a problem with this
14:43<Aragon>Setting up ttf-opensymbol (2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch4) ...
14:43<Aragon>Updating fontconfig cache...
14:43<Aragon>sr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
14:43<madprobe>jabka, its ok dude, sorry i didnt knew much abt make files
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14:43<Aragon>usr/share/fonts/X11: failed to write cache
14:43<Aragon>what can i do ?
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14:44<dondelelcaro>Ganneff: yeah, just tell me and I'll clean them.
14:44<Aragon>dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--configure):
14:44<Aragon> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 21
14:44<Aragon>Errors were encountered while processing:
14:44<Aragon> ttf-opensymbol
14:44<dpkg>That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster.
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14:44<dondelelcaro>Ganneff: I've got scripts that do the maximum numbers of unbans per line, and parse it properly.
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14:44<Ganneff>dondelelcaro: my unban does that, my unquiet not yet
14:44<Aragon>enybody can help me please :(
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14:44<streuner>Argagon: who told you to flood us?
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14:45<Aragon>ok sorry
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14:45<flawd>madprobe, nope. thanks. it seems more likely that it is xdm or something...
14:45<streuner>Aragon: show us sources.list in paste.debian.net, please
14:45<dondelelcaro>Ganneff: http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/bin/parse_banlist
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14:45<streuner>Aragon: and the whole error
14:46<klimy>how do i force my ntpd to start after dhclient has found my dhcp server?
14:46<madprobe>flawd, if u find it please tell me too :)
14:46<Aragon>i`m use 4 DVD full pack
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14:46<Aragon>and can understand
14:46<engineer>no
14:46<engineer>thanks
14:46<Aragon>and can`t understand
14:47<klimy>i was wondering why my clock runs 2 hours late and found that none of the severs can be resolved, because i do not have an ip assigned at taht time
14:47<flawd>madprobe, yeah :)
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14:47<streuner>hm
14:48<klimy>still in my /etc/rc* ifupdown is before my ntp call
14:49<madprobe>how can i grab a window or whole screen from command line (in fluxbox)?
14:49<Ganneff>dondelelcaro: i wonder why you write seperate scripts and not ones run within irssi?
14:49<streuner>madprobe: scrot
14:49<dondelelcaro>Ganneff: because you can inspect the output before running it
14:49<madprobe>streuner, thanks :)
14:49<streuner>madprobe: if you thinkiing in terms of screenshot
14:50[~]dondelelcaro has bunches of scripts that run in irssi, but for some things, it doesn't make sense
14:50<madprobe>streuner, yeah i meant same
14:50<flawd>madprobe, in /etc/X11/Xsession.d I have a file named 98set-wallpaper. I bet that's the troublemaker.
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14:50<madprobe>flawd, is that some script?
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14:51<edthefox>how can I get a list of databases and tables from mysqladmin?
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14:51<flawd>madprobe, yeah for "set-wallpaper" it seemed.
14:51<fxiny>flawd: i set flux background in my style from a symlink in init
14:51<flawd>ok so it's fixed.
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14:51<flawd>or it will be
14:51<flawd>cause that's got to be it
14:51<flawd>thanks
14:52<madprobe>fxiny, i use fbsetbg with rootCommand set to fbsetbg -l in init file
14:53<madprobe>fxiny, coz this is the only way i want to retain my wallpaper on style change or fluxbox restart
14:53<fxiny>init:session.styleFile: ~/.fluxbox/styles/mylink
14:53<madprobe>only way i know*
14:53<edthefox>nevermind, i found the mysqlshow command
14:53<flawd>brb
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14:54<fxiny>styles are in ~/.fluxbox/styles and backgrounds in ~/.fluxbox/backgrounds
14:54<madprobe>fxiny, whats the other way to retain wallpaper except the one i use?
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14:54<flawd>yep it works now
14:55<madprobe>flawd, so that file was really the culprit
14:55<flawd>yes. it seems to be a script that comes from wallpapers-common
14:55<madprobe>flawd, what was in the file?
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14:55<flawd>it loaded a perl script called "set-wallpaper"
14:56<madprobe>flawd, i don't have wallpapers-common package in my repos
14:56<streuner>read FAQ of fluxbox website
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14:56<flawd># This file will set the desktop wallpaper, it comes from the
14:56<flawd># package 'wallpapers-common'
14:56<streuner>Whats hard to read FAQ of fluxbox.sf.net ?
14:56<flawd>madprobe, I have no idea but I don't want it so it's gone :)
14:57<flawd>streuner, nothing. thanks.
14:57<madprobe>streuner, sorry dude, no more fluxbox talks now
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14:58<fxiny>madprobe: i use this one . i drop .jpg into backgrounds and i just delete/make mysymlink . no need to edit conf again
14:58<streuner>madprobe: Fluxbox FAQ explains it, so i dont know why there is a need to disucss that any further :-)
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14:59<madprobe>fxiny, there is every chance we will get kicked out we don't stop talking abt fluxbox
14:59<madprobe>if we*
14:59<madprobe>:)
14:59<fxiny>madprobe: ;)
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14:59<streuner>fluxbox in Debian isnt OT, so you could speak serveral hours right now ;-)
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15:00<madprobe>streuner, thank God its really nice to hear(read) that ur wm is not OT
15:00<streuner>hehe
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15:03<fxiny>madprobe: so we are safe ;). i am a bit confused . i can't remember the damned thing name for rotating backgrounds . was it febe tebe mebe ? or got to do with damned icons ? hmmm
15:03<madprobe>fxiny, i think the easiest way is to set rootCommand in .fluxbox/init as fbsetbg -r <dirname>, it will rotate wallpapers
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15:04<madprobe>fxiny, where dirname is the dir contains loads of wallpapers
15:04<madprobe>containing*
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15:05<fxiny>i'll try that . i do not have icons around , but some Andromeda.jpg galaxy_45.jpg The Large Magellanic Cloud [LMC].jpg and so on ;)
15:05<leonidas>Hi Guys, anyone has installed GNASH before?
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15:05<madprobe>fxiny, put'em in a dir and use fbsetbg -r <dirname> in init
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15:06<madprobe>fxiny, though i havent tried it myself! so tell me if it worked :)
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15:06<madprobe>fxiny, i dont like the idea of randomly changing wallpapers
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15:08<fxiny>madprobe: me too , i might change my mind with a striking : fbsetbg -r pr0n :P
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15:08<leonidas>I have been struggling with it but I think i am not far from having it work. I am stuck ming lib
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15:09<madprobe>fxiny, wow nice idea, u never knew which girl will be next
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15:11<fxiny>madprobe: flux rulez ! ;)
15:11<madprobe>everybody here say with me 'flux rules'
15:12<fxiny>and mrxvt rocks !
15:12<oxymor00n>xmonad rules
15:12<madprobe>now what is that?
15:12<fxiny>screen looks better in mrxvt , try try ...
15:12<madprobe>trying
15:13<fxiny>how can one use screen say in a konsole ? pfui !
15:13<fxiny>konsole is for wags :P
15:13<fxiny>madprobe: :)
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15:14<madprobe>fxiny, just multiple tabs is the feature in mrxvt?
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15:14<lliyryp>hi all!
15:15<leonidas>anyone willing to help me with gnash?
15:15<fxiny>madprobe: i'm still using sarge mrxvt : 9 tabla opened . screen in term 1 with 3 windows : total 12 :)
15:15<madprobe>fxiny, its quite similer to eterm, u tried eterm?
15:15<simm>hi all - wondering if anyone could help me - I'm just rebooted my lenny box and the X has come back up looking rather strange - I'm assuming its one of the updates since I last restarted X has changed the DPI (since the resolution is correct) but something isn't right as its really screwing up rendoring in ice weasel - anyone any idea what has changed? where I can fix it?
15:16<fxiny>madprobe: Installed: 0.4.0-3 , 0.5.2-2 can wait forever :)
15:16<madprobe>fxiny, what do u mean by saying "screen in term1 with 3 windows" ?
15:17<fxiny>madprobe: scren runs in term 1 , a very polished screen . irssi runs in split 1 . xmms2 in 2 and rtorrent in 3 .
15:18<madprobe>fxiny, u mean u running xmms inside mrxvt?
15:18<fxiny>madprobe:try this .screenrc : hardstatus on , hardstatus alwayslastline , hardstatus string "%{.bW}%-w%{.rW}%n %t%{-}%+w %=%{..G} %l %H %{..Y} %D-%d-%m %c:%s "
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15:19<fxiny>madprobe: xmms2 not 1 . i am addicted to xmms2 cli :)
15:19<madprobe>fxiny, oh i remember now. xmms2 is cli
15:21<fxiny>madprobe: ops i've reached 1521 tracks : [3/1521] weather_report_solerizationsTrack04.flac (16:34) :)))
15:22<fxiny>i wonder where Wolfy Mozart is . a very long list
15:22<madprobe>fxiny, going to try xmms2, never used it earlier. used amarok
15:22<fxiny>madprobe: try try : you'll love it
15:22<madprobe>fxiny, ncmpc client of mpd is also good if u wanna be minimal
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15:23<fxiny>madprobe: the only thing as i always say ; i do not like etch "gonzo" version :P
15:23<madprobe>gonzo?
15:23<fxiny>yes
15:23<madprobe>what it?
15:24<fxiny>etch version is the "gonzo" one . lenny gets dr.house and sid jekyll !
15:24<simonrvn>@lart fxiny
15:24[~]ravenbird_ raises middle finger to fxiny
15:24<fxiny>hahah lart lart me yo ohhh yeahhhhh
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15:25<simonrvn>crap
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15:25<simonrvn>go bot go
15:26<fxiny>the middle finger ? damned longbow ravenbird :P
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15:26<lliyryp>I hawe problems whits audio,a have Realtek ALC850 sound card but alsaconf cant search my card,I use lenny amd64 and kernel with option acpi=off nopic ,what I must do ?
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15:26<madprobe>fxiny, gonzo is name of which program?
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15:26<fxiny>madprobe: gonzo is the etch xmms2 version name
15:27<madprobe>fxiny, ok
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15:27<fxiny>vi are unter attack !
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15:28[~]Ganneff hates spammers
15:28<simonrvn>that was kickass
15:28<madprobe>fxiny, dude xmms2 rocks
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15:29<madprobe>fxiny, i thought xmms is dead when gentoo folks stopped including it in repos
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15:29<simonrvn>gentoo is not the centre of the universe
15:30<madprobe>simonrvn, yup, but its quite close :)
15:30<simonrvn>not really
15:30<madprobe>just kidding
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15:30<fxiny>madprobe: i keep xmms_still (tm) around cause i need it for ape Mozart files , i'm converting 'em all to flac but it takes time
15:30<madprobe>debian is cool too, in gentoo emerging xmms2 means wait for 10 mins till it compiles
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15:31<simonrvn>gentoo is OT
15:32<madprobe>fxiny, slowly i will know abt various features of xmms2
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15:32<madprobe>simonrvn, got it dude
15:32<fxiny>madprobe: only ten ? did i say to you this is a PII 400 running three vservers ? i have a fat stupid xeon box so fat and stupid i always ruin this one
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15:33<madprobe>fxiny, i didnt knew, never compiled xmms2 so made a guess
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15:33<fxiny>madprobe: slowly ? xmms2 radd dir , clear , play . jump , seek ,very natural : no clicks nor headeache
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15:33<madprobe>fxiny, mine gen*oo box is P3 700 MHz
15:34<madprobe>fxiny, i meant abt the flac stuff u were talking abt, conversions etc
15:34<fxiny>madprobe: a gentoo 700 ? how long to emerge the all lot ?
15:35<fxiny>madprobe: converting ape to flac is time counsuming even on a 3G box
15:35<madprobe>fxiny, gcc and glibc can alone can take a night to compile
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15:35<madprobe>fxiny, y to flac and not mp3?
15:35<fxiny>madprobe: yes . flac is much better
15:35<madprobe>fxiny, flac is better than mp3?
15:35<fxiny>yes
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15:36<fxiny>it depends what music are you listening to . crap music can play mp3
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15:36<madprobe>fxiny, searched wikipedia, name says all "free lossless.."
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15:36<madprobe>fxiny, i am talking abt songs
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15:37<madprobe>rock pop etc
15:37<fxiny>madprobe: check out sibelius for example . take a couple of tiesto/digweed and friends then go for sibelius or mozart and you'll see
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15:37<fxiny>madprobe: music is music
15:38<madprobe>fxiny, yeah for that purpose flac must be better
15:38<madprobe>fxiny, in scorewriter programs
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15:40<fxiny>madprobe: Mozart was not a composer : he was a coder . all classical music composers were mathematicians
15:41<fxiny>10% of the music i listen to is classical
15:41<madprobe>fxiny, cool
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15:42<Buf>Hi, I hope this is the right place: I have problem with my Sid: I switched hdd, copy oldroot->newroot, corected lilo, but got kernel panic. Now trying to rescue with knoppix but fail to chroot
15:42<madprobe>fxiny, i admire mozart
15:42<fxiny>madprobe: it helps a lot
15:42<madprobe>fxiny, helps in what? giving u peace?
15:43<Buf>Don Giovanni is great
15:43<fxiny>madprobe: for sure to get rid of ppl looking for my keybord , it alway works : they just go away QUICKLY ;)
15:43<madprobe>fxiny, hehehe
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15:44<madprobe>fxiny, dude xmms2 radd <dirname> is just adding first song in the playlist? it should add all. why so?
15:44<fxiny>it should add all . try now xmms2 list
15:45<madprobe>fxiny, its xmms2 list which is showing me only one track added
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15:45<madprobe>fxiny, using "xmms2 radd /blob/My\ Music/En/lfo"
15:46<fxiny>madprobe: xmms2 radd blob*
15:46<fxiny>lfo ?
15:46<madprobe>fxiny, no i only wanna add lfo's songs in the list
15:46<fxiny>cd closer
15:46<madprobe>lfo is a band
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15:47<madprobe>ruthless ppl don't even give second chance or warning
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15:49<Buf>chroot /myroot /bin/bash -> Seg fault
15:49<fxiny>madprobe: i have xmms2-client-medialib-updater installed . flac plugin , xmms2-plugin-icymetaint dor shoutcast radio and sqlite3 to check stats
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15:49<madprobe>fxiny, dude i am still unable to add files to the list
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15:50<fxiny>madprobe: cd ~/.config and check
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15:52<madprobe>fxiny, when i do "xmms2 add /blob/My\ Music/En/lfo/*" it shows added followed by all the song files
15:52<madprobe>. but still only one song gets added
15:53<madprobe>fxiny, nothing of interest in .config
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15:53<fxiny>madprobe: what xmms2 list shows ?
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15:53<madprobe>only 1 song
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15:53<madprobe>fxiny, 2 songs, same repeated 2 times
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15:53<simonrvn>dondelelcaro: that's like the 3rd or so time NeT_DeMoN_ has done something like that
15:53<fxiny>madprobe: does it play ?
15:54<madprobe>yup
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15:54<dondelelcaro>simonrvn: yeah, that's why he's banned.
15:54<simonrvn>:D
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15:55<fxiny>madprobe: this is what : apt-get install xmms2 > libxmmsclient-glib0 libxmmsclient0 xmms2 xmms2-client-cli xmms2-core xmms2-plugin-alsa xmms2-plugin-id3v2 xmms2-plugin-mad xmms2-plugin-vorbis
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15:55<fxiny>then i added more as i told you before
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15:57<fxiny>madprobe: you want this as well , pretty important : apt-cache show xmms2-client-medialib-updater
15:57<madprobe>fxiny, all these are installed in my system
15:58<madprobe>except last one xmms2-client-medialib-updater, installing that
15:58<fxiny>madprobe: ~/.config/xmms2 holds a medialib.db . sensitive data ...
15:59<madprobe>fxiny, i think i should also restart xmms2 server, if i can
15:59<fxiny>madprobe: hold on
15:59<madprobe>fxiny, ??
15:59<fxiny>madprobe: xmms2d & firts !
16:00<fxiny>st*
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16:00<fxiny>madprobe: xmms2 quit will shut it down , sorry my bad
16:01<madprobe>fxiny, on doing xmms2 quit it shows 'xmms2 started' :)
16:01<fxiny>madprobe: pgrep xmms2
16:02<madprobe>fxiny, its giving me pid of xmms2
16:02<fxiny>madprobe: if you want you can check mlib command like : xmms2 mlib search "artist=foo" for example
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16:02<fxiny>madprobe: kill it
16:02<fxiny>and start xmms2d & again
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16:03<madprobe>ok
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16:03<fxiny>or : sqlite3 medialib.db and do your queries
16:03<madprobe>fxiny, killed and started again
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16:04<wamty>i have pb with my land card when i lspci they are my land carte in lite
16:04<fxiny>xmms2 is really advanced
16:04<madprobe>geek@g33ky:~$ xmms2 radd /blob/My\ Music/En/lfo/*
16:04<madprobe>Ignoring invalid path '/blob/My Music/En/lfo/01.EVERY OTHER TIME.MP3'
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16:04<madprobe>and this error repeats for every file
16:04<madprobe>in the die
16:04<madprobe>dir*
16:04<wamty>anyone?
16:05<fxiny>seenn ? is a path problem . check xmms2 list again
16:05<wamty>my land card it's not installed
16:05<madprobe>fxiny, only 1 file is added (twice)
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16:06<madprobe>fxiny, may be i found a bug in xmms2
16:06<fxiny>madprobe: it gives error even when it scans gif , no problems just ignore , try to cp all in a "normal" dir
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16:06<fxiny>madprobe: xmms2 clear will get rid of it
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16:07<witte>wamty: with land card, you mean your ethernet (lan) card?
16:07<fxiny>madprobe: oh yes could be a bug , who knows ?
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16:07<madprobe>fxiny, xmms2 clear cleared the list, then i ran xmms2 radd like the one i pasted abv, but there is no file added as shown by xmms2 list
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16:08<madprobe>or may be a space is the pathname is causing the problem
16:08<fxiny>madprobe: it never happened to me , try another audio dir
16:08<madprobe>xmms2 may be able to handle spaces
16:08<fxiny>could be lemme check
16:08<madprobe>"My Music" dir has a space in it
16:08<madprobe>checking after renaming My Music to sth else
16:09<simonrvn>spaces in file names in *nix is ARGH!
16:09<madprobe>didnt worked
16:09<fxiny>madprobe: it works with a space in between , here
16:09<wamty>i have pb with my land card when i lspci they are my land carte in lite
16:10<wamty>i have pb with my land card when i lspci they are my land carte in lite
16:10<madprobe>a program that fails on spaces is lame, xmms2 is not :)
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16:11<fxiny>madprobe: like thiss xmms2 radd dir* where dir is "the head"
16:11<witte>wamty: I do not understand your question
16:11<madprobe>fxiny, trying this
16:12<madprobe>fxiny, this error was shown as the window running xmms2d, i just now checked it
16:12<madprobe>ERROR: src/xmms/xform.c:840: Couldn't set up chain for 'file:///blob/music/En/lfo/14.DANDELION.MP3' (16)
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16:13<wamty>my lan card : rtl8139d
16:13<madprobe>this is being shown for every file i try to add by using "xmms2 add lfo/*"
16:13<fxiny>try lfo*
16:13<madprobe>fxiny, tried same error
16:14<dmobi>postfix or exim?
16:14<madprobe>fxiny, seems to be an error given by core mechanism of xmms2
16:14<fxiny>can you paste the full quoted path so i can reproduce it ?
16:14<wamty>i have RTL8139D i can't configure it
16:14<fxiny>i'll clone a dir
16:14<witte>wamty: is it recognized and the module loaded?
16:14<madprobe>how to paste here (safely)
16:15<witte>wamty: do you have an ethX device when checking /sbin/ifconfig
16:15<witte>!tell madprobe about pastebin
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16:18<wamty>witte: no but when i do :lspci i see me lan card in the list
16:18<dmobi>postfix or exim?
16:18<fxiny>postxim
16:19<wamty>witte: sorry for my english
16:19<wamty>u understand me now?
16:19<madprobe>fxiny, http://rafb.net/p/1Up2mW96.html
16:19<witte>wamty: can you do "lsmod |grep 8139too"
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16:20<witte>wamty: yes, now i understand ;-)
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16:21<witte>wamty: what is your native language?
16:21<madprobe>fxiny, the o/p of xmms2 list: http://rafb.net/p/KDdfQ973.html
16:21<wamty>"lsmod |grep 8139too"
16:21<wamty>?
16:21<wamty>now?
16:22<witte>wamty: yes, open a terminal and type that (without the quotes)
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16:22<wamty>are you sure of the 'too' ?
16:22<fxiny>madprobe: can't see the dir name : is lfo and then ?
16:22<witte>wamty: it lists the modules (lsmod) and afterwards it limits the output to those lines which include the term 8139too
16:22<madprobe>wamty its module name
16:23<fxiny>where are the spaces ?
16:23<madprobe>fxiny, i renamed the dirs containing spaces so thats not the cause of prob
16:23<wamty>witte; nothing when i do this
16:23<madprobe>renamed "My Music" to music
16:23<witte>wamty: you can try it without the too as well,
16:23<witte>wamty: ok, the module is not loaded
16:23<fxiny>madprobe: lemme check thos + signs
16:24<witte>wamty: do as root: modprobe 8139too
16:24<fxiny>those*
16:24<wamty>lsmod |grep 8139too
16:24<wamty>like this? Im just making sure
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16:24<madprobe>fxiny, wait, not every file contain + sign
16:24<witte>wamty: yep, like that
16:24<madprobe>fxiny, like 4.ALAYNA.MP3
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16:25<wamty>witte; I have to do su i guess no?
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16:26<witte>yes, do su or use sudo (if you have that configured)
16:26<wamty>I did su, my password then modprobe 8139too
16:26<wamty>nothing happened
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16:27<witte>that is good, now do the lsmod |grep 8139too
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16:27<witte>now there should be something there
16:27<wamty>witte: i have 8139.c in my desktop
16:28<fxiny>madprobe: is not a + sign or a MP3 extension problem , anymore mp3 around to check ?
16:28<witte>wamty: you won't need that, your kernel should have the driver for this very common card
16:28<wamty>ok I see two lines now
16:28<witte>wamty: perfect
16:29<witte>wamty: ifconfig eth0 up
16:29<fxiny>madprobe: try killing this: ~/.config/xmms2$ > medialib.db
16:29<witte>wamty: next check if it is up by doing /sbin/ifconfig
16:30<madprobe>fxiny, adds files when i add file by file
16:30<witte>wamty: there should be a eth0 thing with several lines of information
16:30<fxiny>madprobe: strange
16:30<wamty>when i do ifconfig eth0 up I have an ERROR
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16:31<fxiny>madprobe: i never had problems . it spits out errors about .txt files or .jpg files but it always gets all things right
16:31<madprobe>fxiny, dude it radded files for some other fir
16:31<madprobe>dir*
16:31<fxiny>madprobe: yes ?
16:32<madprobe>yes for an other dir of songs
16:32<wamty>witte, Error while getting interface flags : aucun perifirique de ce type
16:32<fxiny>madprobe: could be some hidden space at the end of 123.MP3spacehere
16:32<madprobe>fxiny, well
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16:32<madprobe>nope
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16:32<madprobe>fxiny, in my pastes ' is at just the right end, no end there
16:33<witte>wamty: ok, try this: "dmesg | grep 8139"
16:33<fxiny>true
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16:34<madprobe>fxiny, dude i have double checked
16:35<fxiny>madprobe: does xmms2 jump 2 or 3 works ?
16:35<madprobe>fxiny, errors are only coming for lfo dir
16:35<madprobe>the files in my boyzone dir, get radded smoothly
16:36<fxiny>madprobe: wht about xmms2 status (ctrl c after that) and seek 100 ?
16:36<madprobe>jump 2 works
16:37<fxiny>pause ?
16:37<madprobe>all commands are working fine
16:37<fxiny>pause/play ? if that works debian is ok , no bugs .
16:37<wamty>witte: when i do "dmesg | grep 8139" they are many lignes
16:37<madprobe>seek pause jump next play stop quit and help :)
16:37<witte>wamty; paste them in a pastebin
16:37<witte>!tell wamty about pastebin
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16:39<fxiny>madprobe: to get a radio just xmms2 add http://ip:portnumber and it will stay on list :)
16:39<fxiny>xmms2 rocks !
16:40<fxiny>fire up top and compare it to xmms
16:40<madprobe>fxiny, please tell me ip and port of a radio to try
16:40<madprobe>fxiny, whatever happens happens for good. i learnt alot abt xmms2 due to lfo dir prob :)
16:41<fxiny>madprobe: it will be spam . browse say to shoutcast just to check . grab the file and read it
16:41<madprobe>fxiny, ok
16:41<fxiny>iirc it is called pls . lemme check
16:42<fxiny>yes
16:43<madprobe>fxiny, whats called iirc?
16:43<witte>!iirc
16:43<dpkg>IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly"
16:43<fxiny>something like chillout.pls . i'm not streaming since ages , thay are txt files
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16:44<fxiny>lemme check
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16:44<ski>evening
16:44<wamty>witte: http://pastebin.ca/833018
16:45<fxiny>madprobe: i'll pm you if you want
16:45<madprobe>np
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16:45<fxiny>much better :)
16:45<madprobe>fxiny, what to do after reaching shoutcast.com?
16:46<fxiny>then just jump
16:47<fxiny>bloody nice !
16:47<witte>wamty: strange, can you also put the output of lspci in a pastebin
16:47<witte>wamty: and which kernel do you have (uname -a)
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16:48<wamty>lspci 8139 ?
16:49<ski>hi all, sorry to just jump in with a question, but does any one know how i can regenerate my apt package list from scratch
16:49<witte>wamty: just lspci
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16:50<witte>ski: rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin; apt-get update
16:50<witte>ski: although i am not sure that you need to remove the bin files first
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16:51<ski>witte: thanks, i'm a newbie so i'm probably wrong
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16:51<ski>witte: but it seems i have what i can only describe as phantom packages in there
16:51<lucas_amorim>hello! How do I delete jobs from the CUPS job list without using gnome?
16:52<witte>lucas_amorim: http://localhost:631
16:52<ski>lucas_amorim: lprm [job-num]
16:52<witte>ski: what do you mean with phantom packages?
16:53<lucas_amorim>thank you both!!
16:53<lucas_amorim>bye
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16:53<ski>witte: basically i installed some packages from the unstable branch earlier, then removed them due to conflicts, i;ve since removed the repository and the updated, but when i search they are still come up
16:54<wamty>witte: http://pastebin.ca/833026
16:55<witte>ski: mixing unstable with other installs always gives troubles :-)
16:55<madprobe>xmms2 rocks
16:55<ski>witte: synaptic gives the best explanation and when you choose the packages it lists:
16:55<ski>Package splashy has no available version, but exists in the database.
16:55<ski>"This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list"
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16:56<wamty>witte?
16:56<ski>witte: yes i think your very right, and being a debian newbie, this is something i wont be repeating
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16:57<witte>wamty: it should work, I am thinking on reasons why it isn't working :-)
16:57<witte>!downgrade
16:57<dpkg>methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>.
16:57<wamty>hmmm?
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16:58<witte>wamty: downgrade was for ski
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16:58<Pepper>wamty: post the output of "cat /etc/network/interfaces" to pastebin
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16:59<witte>Pepper: the problme is that after modprobing 8139too, he still has no eth0 device
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16:59<ski>dpkg, witte: how about just getting rid of the packages alltogether
17:00<witte>ski: dpkg is a bot, and he told you how to get rid of them: dpkg -i oldversion
17:00<ski>lol
17:00<wamty>what do you guys suggest please?
17:01<ski>witte: i'm very new to this, u'll have to forgive me
17:01<wamty>when i reset i phase to detect network he said resolv.conf no sush file or directory
17:01<Robinayor_>i have to improve my hilighting-patterns :-/
17:01<witte>ski: no problem
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17:01<Robinayor_>"modprobing" everytime hilights me with "modp-robin-g"
17:02<wamty>?
17:02<sooperkuh>wamty: what does lspci say about your card?
17:03<ski>witte: thanks
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17:03<ski>so what is the network problem :)
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17:03<witte>sooperkuh: the lspci of wamty is here: http://pastebin.ca/833026
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17:05<sooperkuh>i'd throw that rtl8139 crap out, but that is just me ; )
17:05<wamty>heh
17:05<wamty>:/
17:05<wamty>there's nothing to d abut it/
17:05<witte>wamty: try this: rmmod 8139cp
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17:07<Pepper>wamty: http://vishalmanohar.wordpress.com/2007/07/03/trouble-with-fake-lan-card/ tells it's a faked RTL chip
17:07<lucas_amorim>I am trying to install my samsung ML2010 on my debian lenny box. It seems that jobs are not being sent to it.
17:07<wamty>FAKED?
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17:07<sooperkuh>they fake this cheap crap? holy cow?
17:07<lucas_amorim>I have installed it using the drivers provided by samsung
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17:07<witte>lucas_amorim: did you restart cups?
17:08<wamty>witte, can it be faked?
17:08<witte>wamty: I was googling as well, and i also found some references to fake network cards, so I presume yes
17:09<lucas_amorim>witte: could you please tell me how? :p
17:09<witte>lucas_amorim: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
17:09<lucas_amorim>ok thanks
17:09<wamty>witte: there's nothing when I do rmmod 8139cp
17:09<lucas_amorim>I am gonna try
17:09<witte>wamty: now do /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up again
17:10<witte>wamty: so "/sbin/ifconfig eth0 up" (without the again ;-)
17:10<lucas_amorim>witte: now I have got two CUPS icon on gnome system tray :p
17:10<lucas_amorim>Is that ok?
17:10<lucas_amorim>Or does it seems cups is running twice?
17:10<witte>lucas_amorim: don't know, I do not use gnome
17:11<lucas_amorim>ok
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17:11<wamty>same message ERROR
17:11<witte>lucas_amorim: ps aux | grep cups
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17:11<ski>wamty: out of curiousity, what is your error message
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17:12<wamty>I pasted it above
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17:13<witte>ski: it was a "no such device" error but then in French
17:13<leonidas>Hi Guys, when i have my screen saver on and want to login again the background of my pc gets all funny and blurred
17:14<leonidas>It keeps the color of my screen saver in the background of my pc and I cant see anything. the fonts get all funny as well
17:14<wamty>witte
17:14<wamty>thanks ALOT for your effort
17:14<wamty>really
17:14<wamty>i need to go now
17:15<wamty>ill try to join tomorrow
17:15<wamty>thanks again sir
17:15<leonidas>anyone has any idea?
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17:15<ski>witte, wamty: strange and you guys tried a forced unload and reload
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17:15<leonidas>is it the x server that is not well configured? or is it the graphics drivers?
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17:17<ski>leonidas: lspci | grep Graphics
17:17<ski>to see your device
17:18<ski>leonidas: then try googling the chip model and the problem your experiencing
17:18<leonidas>well I did so, ski, and I am just finishing installin the nvidia drivers
17:19<leonidas>there was nothing about my pb
17:19<ski>leonidas: and does the same thing when you use the basic drivers
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17:20<leonidas>well that i dont know. what i do know is that the drivers dont seem to have any pbs
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17:21<ski>leonidas: try just using the basic vga driver rather than the nvidia and see what that does,
17:21<Pepper>witte: there's a link with seperate kernel-driver for this problem. do you want the link?
17:22<leonidas>yep, will investigate further
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17:22<ski>leonidas : also try getting rid of the extra options for the device under xorg.conf i.e. dri and then introducing them slow, i've had problems in the past were nv drivers have been very finkly about what they do
17:23<witte>Pepper: yes please
17:23<Pepper>http://vishalmanohar.wordpress.com/2007/07/07/configuring-hangzhou-silan-on-ubuntu-linux/
17:23<leonidas>my pb is weird, because I have got such a good resolution that it doesnt make me think that graphics drivers are the pb
17:24<Pepper>they also suggest config with ndiswrapper ...sic...
17:24<leonidas>everything seem to be working perfectly :)
17:24<witte>Pepper: they say that both methods don't work
17:24<witte>Pepper: maybe he can try a newer kernel and see if that works, otherwise, just a cheap other good nic
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17:26<ski>witte: about the downgraded packages
17:27<ski>witte: i regenerated the package list (the drastic way) but still have the packages i was hoping it would get rid off
17:27<witte>ski: are they still installed?
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17:28<Pepper>witte: yes its in http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.23.y.git;a=history;f=drivers/net/sc92031.c;h=872cb1cc9c41c05d2b12048450a5b187b782608f;hb=53ff884d3941bb5cfa02f2e5771a9d79f7b7a0e1
17:28<ski>witte : they have been remove, but though i reloaded my package list and got rid of the repository them came from, they still get listed
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17:29<ski>witte : if i do a search for them
17:29<witte>Pepper: nice
17:29<witte>ski: is this a problem
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17:30<witte>ski: how do you search for them?
17:31<ski>witte: using "aptitude search"
17:31<witte>ski: and if you do "dpkg -l |grep <package>", what do you get
17:32<ski>witte: actually just noticed something, dooing "aptitude search" lists them but "apt-cache search" doesn't
17:32<witte>ski: huh
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17:32<witte>ski: that is strange, i was under the impression that the did virtually the same?
17:33<ski>ski: i'll paste the output
17:33<witte>ski: use a pastebin
17:33<ski>sure
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17:35<ski>http://pastebin.ca/833067
17:35<ski>witte: http://pastebin.ca/833067
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17:36<witte>ski: I never use aptitude search what does the c mean
17:36<Piscore>Hi, I found a company website that uses debian logo as its own, where can i report that?
17:36<witte>and what is the output of dpkg -l |grep splashy
17:36<ski>witte : what does 'rc' mean in dpkg?
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17:36<ifvoid>Piscore: debian-legal@lists.debian.org
17:37<ski>witte : http://pastebin.ca/833070 just update with dpkg
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17:37<witte>ski: removed with config files there
17:37<Piscore>thanks, later
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17:40<ski>witte: i'm sorry, i'm very new to debian, what does 'removed with config files' mean? are there some config files left lurking around for me to hunt?
17:41<azeem>ski: yes
17:41<stickman>hi all. why don't i have access to my lan over wireless? when i plug in the wire it works. and in vist and xpee it works over wireless
17:41<azeem>Debian does not remove your (potentially valuable) config files unless you tell it to "purge" a package rather than "remove" it
17:42<ski>azeem: thank you, i'll have to hunt
17:42<azeem>stickman: probably your wlan device is not supported out-of-the-box
17:42<witte>ski: http://pastebin.ca/833073
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17:42<rrva>I remounted /proc elsewhere with mount rbind, but now I cannot unmount the copy. What strategy can I use to be able unmount it without reboot?
17:42<witte>ski: that is a fuller explaination that dpkg gives
17:42<stickman>wireless works fine over the net. i'm using it now
17:43<ski>witte: thank you
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17:43<ski>azeem: wrt. not removing config files, i've found out that what debian removes depends on the tool it uses to do the job
17:45<azeem>or the options you tell that tool to apply
17:45<ski>azeem: i.e. i have a bad habbit of editing my grub files by hand and debian has a worse habit up using the update-grub script and removing them:(
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17:46<ski>azeem: would that the digital chicken and egg race ?
17:46<witte>ski: the bad habit is not reading the grub file
17:46<azeem>ski: yeah, that's a specific issue with the grub config file
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17:46<witte>ski: there are spaces in the file that are not touched by update-grub
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17:47<ski>witte : ooh yeah a terrible habbit of assuming it will just read what i tell it
17:47<ski>azeem: as witte said, i've been learning to read :)
17:49<rosminet>hello, i'm not sur i'm on the right channel, but can anybody help me with fixgz ? the source I compilled run to an error because of a NULL pointer when opening the corrupted file (very big file)
17:50<ski>witte, azeem: before i do something i'll later regret like writing regex to remove the config files. is there a debian tool i should read up on which will do the job .. like some dpkg option
17:50<azeem>yes
17:50<azeem>!purge
17:50<dpkg>somebody said purge was to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use aptitude purge [package] or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge '~c', or see <confmiss> about restoring individual config files
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17:51<lucas_amorim>witte: The printer seems to be installed, but as far as I understood, CUPS is not sending the jobs to the printer driver.
17:51<lucas_amorim>any idea?
17:52<ski>azeem, witte: thn you guys, i've learnt a fair bit :)
17:52<witte>lucas_amorim: do you have permissions to print (are you in the correct group)? I am not sure that this is an issue, but it could be something silly like that
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17:54<lucas_amorim>yeah.. I think so because I have installed it as root user. How would I change the permissions for printing?
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17:54<lucas_amorim>I think I do not have the permissions for the normal user
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17:56<ski>rosminet : if you have the source, but an assertion in before the load to double check and and see what is being loaded
17:56<witte>lucas_amorim: mmm, it is not what i originally thought, I am not member of the lp or lpadmin group myself, but I can print
17:57<lucas_amorim>witte: It is exactly what you said! I just opened a pdf as root, and I could print!!
17:57<ski>thanks all good night
17:57<lucas_amorim>now I just need to allow the normal user to print.. how would I do this?
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17:58<witte>lucas_amorim: you restarted cupsys right?
17:58<rosminet>ski : sorry I don't understand, what is " assertion" ? ... I'm not very good in coding :-/
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17:59<witte>lucas_amorim: it is a local printer isn't it?
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18:00<lucas_amorim>yes it is
18:00<witte>lucas_amorim: what does lpq give (as root and as normal user)
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18:04<lucas_amorim>it displays the list o jobs
18:04<lucas_amorim>of jobs*
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18:05<witte>lucas_amorim: both as root and as normal user?
18:05<lucas_amorim>yes
18:05<witte>lucas_amorim: is the devices listed as ready?
18:06<witte>otherwise, remove the existing jobs and try printing again
18:06<lucas_amorim>yes
18:06<lucas_amorim>it is displayed as ready
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18:07<witte>lucas_amorim: ok, I do not know the solution
18:07<lucas_amorim>witte, I just found out that I cannot print a djvu file as root, only pdf
18:07<lucas_amorim>what about this?
18:08<vook>lucas_amorim: that makes little sense - doesn't point to the print server as the problem at least.
18:08<witte>you can have a look in /var/log/cups/
18:08<jw>During 2.6.23.12 kernel build sequence when entered mkinitrd.yaird -o command, received error: yaird error: "unrecognised line in /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= (fatal)". Look familiar to anyone?
18:09<lucas_amorim>witte: ok, thanl you
18:09<witte>lucas_amorim: you can put the verboseness of the loggin in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
18:09<lucas_amorim>witte: verboseness?
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18:10<witte>lucas_amorim: probably written incorrect: how much things are logged
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18:12<witte>lucas_amorim: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/verboseness ;-)
18:12<lucas_amorim>witte: You want me to paste the log for you?
18:12<jw>Particulars are: kong:/usr/src/linux# mkinitrd.yaird -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.23.12 2.6.23.12
18:12<jw>yaird error: unrecognised line in /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= (fatal)
18:12<jw>
18:12<jw>kong:/usr/src/linux# cat /proc/bus/input/devices
18:12<jw>
18:12|-|jw kicked [#debian] debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
18:12<vook>not here!
18:12<oddtod>hey guys i'm looking for a good list of sources for lenny does any one have their list posted onl ine by chance?
18:12<vook>cause that could happen!
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18:13<witte>lucas_amorim: you can post it in pastebin for everyone
18:13<witte>!pastebin
18:13<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
18:13<witte>!tell oddtod about apt-spy
18:14<oddtod>thankts witte
18:15<jw>Sorry ~ the short paste. Didn't know the protocol. Thanks!
18:16<vook>jw - you don't really /need/ an initrd image. possibly something in your new kernel relies on a device that will be created once it is booted. Perhaps try to boot into the kernel w/o the initrd, and then try to create the image.
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18:16<lucas_amorim>ok, in /var/log/cups there is a lot of log files: access_log, error_log, cups-pdf_log, page_log, which one would be more interesting?
18:16<vook>or something in proc rather (not device)
18:17<jw>thx!
18:17<vook>I stopped using initrd's a while back
18:17<witte>lucas_amorim: access_log maybe, error_log certainly
18:17<witte>lucas_amorim: have a look at them, and see what is in it
18:17<vook>I create the, but comment them out in grub
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18:17<vook>the/the,
18:17<vook>the,/them
18:17<witte>lucas_amorim: if there is something you don't understand, just ask
18:18<oddtod>whats debian lenny's base source i only have cdrom support as of now
18:18<witte>oddtod: you mean you just installed, and did not configure your sources.list at install?
18:18<witte>!sources.list
18:18<dpkg>Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
18:18<lucas_amorim>witte: seems that acess_log is the web interface log
18:19<lucas_amorim>witte: not very interesting.
18:19<oddtod>i don't have the internet connection to be installing from internet so i can only use the cd first run
18:19<witte>lucas_amorim: ah, could be
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18:19<witte>oddtod: the dpkg message above should help
18:19<vook>oddtod: you can use ftp.debian.org in a pinch - ideally find a server near you though. (much quicker, and takes load off of the primary server) www.debian.org has a list of mirrors.
18:19<oddtod>thanks witt
18:20<oddtod>thanks
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18:21<lucas_amorim>I know cups is not sending the jobs to the printer because if i open the samsung printer driver interface i cannot see any jobs in its job list
18:22<jw>dpkg: What does 'Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>' mean?
18:22<lucas_amorim>I do not think it is helpfull at all but, take a look at this: http://rafb.net/p/q71Tra33.html
18:22<lucas_amorim>witte
18:22<witte>!pastebin pipe
18:22<dpkg>Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl.
18:22<witte>jw: dpkg is a bot
18:22<witte>!bot
18:22<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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18:23<witte>lucas_amorim: are those recent errors?
18:23<lucas_amorim>yes
18:23<saty>heyy guys
18:24<witte>which time zone are you in, it is 00:24 here, so these seem at least 4h old from my end of the line :-)
18:24<oddtod>hi
18:24<oddtod>witte where are you sir?
18:24<witte>oddtod: Belgium
18:24<lucas_amorim>witte: -03:00 :)
18:25<oddtod>ahhh the that place is cool
18:25<witte>lucas_amorim: Ireland?
18:25<oddtod>8 hours a head of me here
18:25<lucas_amorim>GMT -03:00
18:25<lucas_amorim>witte: Brazil
18:25[~]vook is reminded to check to see if rootshell.be is again fully functional...
18:25<witte>lucas_amorim: ah, nice :-)
18:25<lucas_amorim>:)
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18:26<lucas_amorim>witte: I think these are also errors related to the interface
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18:26<lucas_amorim>witte: I am gonna look for known bugs of the driver
18:27<witte>lucas_amorim: ok, but you could also just try the driver that is delivered with cups
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18:27<witte>lucas_amorim: I also have a samsung printer (not the same model) and installing it was real easy
18:28<lucas_amorim>witte: then how would i remove the driver I have installed?
18:28<witte>lucas_amorim: just reconfigure the printer in http://localhost:631
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18:29<lucas_amorim>witte: I have deleted the previews entrance an then I added a new printer selecting it form the cups list
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18:29<lucas_amorim>is that what you mean/
18:30<lucas_amorim>?
18:31<witte>lucas_amorim: that would also work, but there is a "configure printer" button (or something similar) that would have done the same
18:31<lucas_amorim>where?
18:31<lucas_amorim>"Modify Printer"?
18:31<witte>lucas_amorim: yes, that is the one
18:32<lucas_amorim>ok it asks to choose the printer device: I chose "MFP USB Port #0 (ML-2010)"
18:32<lucas_amorim>seems to be the only suitable one
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18:33<lucas_amorim>it is the only one showing "USB" and the name of the printer
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18:34<vook>I recently did a dist-upgrade, and afterwards - while launching startx, xfce is the default wm (instead of gnome). Something changed globally. anyone know how to globally change gnome-session to be the default *when startx is launched (and not xinit)* (I like having a blank xinit session).
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18:36<witte>vook: what does "ll /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager" give
18:36<witte>vook: and ll is an alias for ls -al at my pc :-)
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18:36<vook>blackbox
18:36<lucas_amorim>witte: when I send a job, I look at its status at the jobs list in the web interface, it says: held since Wed 26 Dec 2007 08:08:41 PM BRT
18:37<lucas_amorim>as if i had manually paused it, but i did not...
18:37<witte>lucas_amorim: strange
18:37<witte>nothing in the error logs?
18:37<lucas_amorim>then if i click
18:37<witte>vook: ok, so that is probably not it, but you may want to change that using update-alternatives
18:38<lucas_amorim>if i click Release Jobs it says job released, but then goes back and say it is held again
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18:38<boris_>kkž
18:38<lucas_amorim>witte: nothing that i could notice
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18:38<lucas_amorim>I have to go now, but I am going to try again tomorrow
18:38<lucas_amorim>thank you for our help!
18:38<witte>lucas_amorim: I have no idea, you will have to wait until someone more knowledgeable comes around, or ask on a cups dedicated channel/forum
18:39<lucas_amorim>ok, thanks!
18:39<lucas_amorim>bye
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18:39<witte>vook: what is in ~/.xinitrc
18:39<vook>yeah - I don't use a desktop manager - always boot to console. I like gnome when I startx, but I often just load xinit (and then load openbox or something) for light tasks. Adjusting ~/.xinitrc changed that barebones behavior of xinit
18:39<vook>witte: it was blank, now it has gnome-session.
18:39<vook>I'd prefer that it be blank
18:40<vook>if it is blank though, startx loads xfce
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18:41<vook>sheesh, I'm lazy - I could just go through startx - it is a script after all. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years...
18:41<witte>vook, in man startx the order of the files it looks in is explained
18:42<vook>thanks
18:42<witte>vook: it mentions something on /usr/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc, but I do not have that file?
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18:43<witte>vook: maybe the man file is not debian specific, there is a /etc/xinit/xinitrc file
18:43<vook>I have it, but it just says '. /etc/X11/Xsession' now to look there...
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18:44<vook>wait - I was thinking of /etc/X11/xinitrc
18:44<vook>yeah, I don't have that either.
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18:57<ShiFTKey>I need some help with rsync
18:57<ShiFTKey>I got two partitions set up with an rsync server
18:57<ShiFTKey>1 GB = / and 500 GB = /home/Storage
18:58<ShiFTKey>I have my rsyncd.conf file point to /home/Storage
18:58<ShiFTKey>but its saving the data in / somewhere
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18:58<overdrive201>elite top team
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19:05<shawoho>when is planned the debian 4.0r2 for?
19:05<vook>witte: thanks - yes, I just needed to learn a bit about update-alternatives. I also learned the hard way that .xinitrd doesn't like to have something commented out :)
19:05<witte>!4.0r2
19:05<dpkg>well, 4.0r2 is the latest update of Debian 4.0, published Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:42:36 UTC
19:05<vook>xinitrd/.xinitrc
19:06<shawoho>today?
19:07<shawoho>I didn't see it at debian.org
19:07<witte>shawoho: yesterday (from where i am)
19:07<witte>!etch
19:07<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>).
19:07<shawoho>sorry yesterday...
19:08<witte>shawoho: you are right
19:08<witte>I noticed the images are not yet changed
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19:09<witte>shawoho: so in fact it should be released, but i do not know where
19:09<shawoho>but it's officially released or not yet?
19:09<witte>shawoho: I do not know for sure, I did not make that dpkg entry
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19:11<witte>shawoho: there is also no 4.0_r2 directory at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd
19:11<shawoho>checking....
19:11<witte>shawoho: I just noticed that one of the ops changed that factoid, but I gather it will take a bit mroe
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19:16<ShiFTKey>why is rsync defaulting to my home directory
19:16<ShiFTKey>I set the config file to copy my data to another direcory
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19:24<somae7>I read that you can use nautilus like InCD but I haven't found any information on how to do this
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19:33<somae7>I read that you can use Nautilus like InCD but haven't found any information on how to do that.
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19:44<ShiFTKey>why is rsync ignoring my config file
19:44<ShiFTKey>its ignoring the path
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19:46<ShiFTKey>can anyone help me/
19:46<ShiFTKey>?
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19:51<kurumin>ss
19:51<kurumin>hi all
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20:05<mtretin>anyone know how come "make allnoconfig" results in some kernel options simply disappearing?
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20:08<agus>someone knows where can I get the sources of de standar system, I just want to watch a few comands, but i'm lost
20:09<witte>agus: you mean the sources in sources.list?
20:09<witte>!sources.list
20:09<dpkg>Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
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20:12<agus>witte: no, i mean that i want to read the source code of a few comands, that are not packages, or i don't know the names, so i'cant do a "apt-get source packet"
20:12<agus>any clue¿?
20:12<mtretin>agus: you need to know what program you package is in, then you should simple be able to pull the source ofr that package off the net
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20:14<witte>agus: apt-file search <command> will give you the package the command is in
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20:18<phogg>not always, e,g, apt-file search r is unhelpful
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20:18<witte>phogg: in that case apt-cache search bin/r
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20:18<phogg>witte: well yes
20:18<witte>phogg: but still, you have a point
20:19<witte>phogg: just don't search for r :P
20:19<phogg>takes forever anyway
20:19<witte>phogg: i think there is also a webinterface somewhere
20:19[~]phogg tried it, just to see
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20:21<phogg>Word to the wise... don't try it
20:21<witte>on this site you can also search for files: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
20:21<phogg>2G of ram and I still ran out of memory before it completed
20:22<phogg>only ~500M in use otherwise
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20:49<articpenguin3800>DOES DEBIAN HAVE REISER4
20:50<witte>!reiserfs
20:50<dpkg>hmm... reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See <ext3>, <xfs>, or <jfs> for safer filesystems. Like the DHARMA Initiative: government-sponsored, highly scientific and secretive. <ext3 vs reiserfs>
20:51<articpenguin3800>!reiser4
20:51<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, reiser4 is If you want Reiser4, why are you using debian?
20:51<articpenguin3800>!reiser4
20:51<witte>articpenguin3800: it seems not
20:51<articpenguin3800>y
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20:59<pwd>hey, why there is not bitchx en apt sources.list now?
20:59<witte>pwd: can you rephrase your question?
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21:01<pwd>why bitchx no appears in debian sources.list
21:02<witte>pwd: you mean that when you do apt-get install bitchx, it does not find it?
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21:02<witte>pwd: which version are you using? stable, testing or unstable?
21:03<oye>because irssi beats the shit out of it, to the point where bitchx becomes obsolete? (: back to the point, bitchx is in the repos
21:03<pwd>yeah, and apt-cache search bitchx deliver to me only pork
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21:03<pwd>my version is debian sid
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21:04<oye>pwd: what is on your sources.list?
21:04<pwd>i like bitchx!
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21:04<pwd>deb http://debian.ubiobio.cl/debian/ unstable main
21:04<pwd>deb http://debian.utalca.cl/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
21:04<pwd>deb-src http://debian.utalca.cl/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
21:04<pwd>deb http://debian.utalca.cl/debian/ sid main
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21:07<oye>wonder why bitchx is missing..
21:08<witte>it is removed from unstable
21:08<witte>permanently
21:08<witte>I guess everyone now has to use rcirc from emacs ;-)
21:08<witte>http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ircii-pana/news/20071123T004454Z.html
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21:09<gloupy>hi
21:10<gloupy>can you advise me on hardware i want to buy that can run debian. I am looking for a small pc that will act as a home mini server. should have at least 2 nics
21:11<witte>gloupy: buy nothing too exotic and go to the shop and put a live cd in it, if it boots, it will work
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21:11<witte>gloupy: if you buy online, you need to search google i guess
21:12<geekunit>If I only installed the base debian system, what packages do I need for a UI?
21:12<gloupy>i did but found things with 1 nic
21:12<witte>!set up x
21:12<dpkg>To install X in etch or later "aptitude install xorg", you may also want to install a window manager or ask me about <install gnome> or <install kde>. If you are running sarge, ask me about <install xf4>, or to reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>.
21:12<witte>gloupy: are you looking at normal pc's or very small things?
21:12<geekunit>!install gnome
21:12<dpkg>To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>.
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21:13<witte>gloupy: because if it has a free pci slot, you can just put an extra nic in
21:13<gloupy>i think i will have to build it myself
21:14<witte>gloupy: what scale are you thinking with mini: is that mini in size (like those via things or smaller) or mini in cpu performance?
21:14<gloupy>both, i need only p3 performance and small size
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21:15<witte>via has some things that are in that range
21:16<mikelarry>what is most popular linux distro?
21:16<witte>I think there will be one vacant pci slot to put in an extra nic
21:16<witte>mikelarry: it has to be debian
21:16<witte>mikelarry: everything else would be off topic
21:16<mikelarry>?
21:16<mikelarry>so you lie to stay on topic?
21:16<mikelarry>thanks...anyone else
21:17<witte>mikelarry: have a look at distrowatch, there are some statistics i thing
21:17<witte>s/thing/think
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21:19<pwd>ups
21:19<pwd>xD
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21:20<gloupy>it only has 1 nic
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21:20<witte>pwd: bitchx is removed from testing
21:21<witte>pwd: i had the impression that this is permanently
21:21<witte>http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ircii-pana/news/20071123T004454Z.html
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21:21<pwd>i have unstable
21:21<witte>gloupy: can you add an extra one using a free pci sloth?
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21:22<gloupy>was just checking
21:22<witte>pwd: so you can't find bitchx, and that is normal (this is the reason: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451373)
21:23<gloupy>nope
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21:23<pwd>ups
21:23<gloupy>too bad bcz it's really small
21:23<pwd>bad for me
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21:24<witte>gloupy: search for mini-atx
21:25<witte>gloupy: or maybe mini-itx, don't know the exact difference
21:26<witte>pwd: if you are an emacs user, there is rcirc in emacs22 which is great
21:26<witte>pwd: otherwise you should probably irssi
21:27<witte>pwd: look at irssi
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21:27<pwd>yeah, i think is the best
21:27<witte>gloupy: maybe there are also nics using usb
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21:28<gloupy>yes
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21:30<gloupy>there s smthg called shuttle
21:31<agus>witte: thank you, one of my repositoris wasn't working, so i put another, the apt-file still don't update but later i will try a again read the man page completaly. Didn't know the tool. See you
21:31<agus>bye
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21:32<witte>gloupy: don't know it, is it something like the nslu2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
21:33<pwd>thanks for all witte
21:33<pwd>cya
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21:35<witte>gloupy: there were those mac mini's, maybe you can buy one of those
21:35<gloupy>yes mac mini's are fine
21:35<gloupy>a little bit ex^pensive
21:35<witte>gloupy: do not know if you can add a second nic
21:36<witte>gloupy: maybe on ebay?
21:36<gloupy>yeah maybe
21:36<gloupy>i'll check this out
21:36<gloupy>thkx
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21:37<gloupy>by
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21:37<witte>good luck :-)
21:37<witte>too late :(
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22:48<blinge>hi
22:49<blinge>wow this hard disk makes higher noises
22:49<blinge>than i heard ever
22:50<blinge>ever heard
22:50<blinge>anyone there?
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23:05<dipu>hi .. how can i improve the look and feel of my debian etch
23:06<dipu>i am using gnome
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23:09<geekunit>!get kde
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23:11<geekunit>Is there a magic script for determining what's the best mirror for me?
23:11<geekunit>I'm only getting like 30k/sec from tummy ;)
23:13<JasonS>!tell geekunit about sources.list
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23:16<madprobe>!tell madprobe about sources.list
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23:21<geekunit>ahh, netselect-apt
23:21<geekunit>cool program
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23:28<geekunit>Once I have KDE and XORG isntalled, how do I start the GUI?
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23:38<cyborg>hunre
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23:41<twb>I have subscribed to lots of BTS bugs over the years using `bts subscribe'. How can I get a list of all the bugs to which I am subscribed?
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