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00:06<RIVE>Hello, good night.
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00:28<Lois>hey
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00:33<mzhang>dli, there?
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00:34<dli>mzhang, yes
00:35<mzhang>dli, no acroread package, also seems can't install realplay. btw compiz-fusion worked, looks awesome.
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00:37<dli>mzhang, build mplayer with amd64codecs
00:38<mzhang>dli, is that something gentoo exclusive?
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00:39<dli>mzhang, no, released by http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
00:44<dli>!d-m
00:44<dpkg>debian-multimedia is, like, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>.
00:45<mzhang>dli, I am compiling mplayer.
00:46<dli>mzhang, try d-m first, might be easier
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00:47<mzhang>dli, no such package.
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00:51<dli>mzhang, which package?
00:52<miksuh>mzhang: why are you compiling mplayer?
00:52<mzhang>dli, d-m or debian-multimedia, any way I got mplayer working, just can not view full-screen.
00:52<mzhang>miksuh, because I want to take advantages of eh... sse3 sort of stuff? :)
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00:53<dli>mzhang, d-m is a 3rd party repository
00:54<dli>mzhang, check xvideo support: xvinfo
00:55<dli>mzhang, if your driver doesn't have xv support, put two lines: " zoom = yes ", " vo = x11 " in your ~/.mplayer/config
00:55<miksuh>mplayer from etch repository works just fine in fullscreen here
00:56<mzhang>dli, yes I got this on google almost at the same time, thanks! is it that xv's support is lacking under x64?
00:57<mzhang>dli, oh you only need the zoom=yes line.
00:58<dli>mzhang, no, it could be a nvidia problem
00:58<dli>mzhang, are you using the newest 167.07 (or something like that) driver?
01:00<mzhang>dli, I abandoned it, using .04, the .07 driver drove my fan to full speed.
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01:25<imperia>hi
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01:25<imperia>how do i make 2 modules to autostart? eg. apm and floppy?
01:26<Supaplex>!tell imperia -about modconf
01:26<Lois>hi
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01:27<imperia>Supaplex: aptitude install modconf?
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01:31<sydgdfgs>anyone here ?
01:32<padski>!anyone
01:32<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
01:33<sydgdfgs>?
01:33<SpeedyG>hey, if I Want to be able to make symlinks in a bin/ directory as regular user, which dir should be used then?
01:33<padski>SpeedyG, perhaps ~/bin ?
01:33<imperia>!avahi
01:33<SpeedyG>padski: hm :) too obvious :)
01:34<SpeedyG>!tell sydgdfgs -about ask
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01:35<sydgdfgs>i installed etch 4.0r2 on new hardware with cdrom/dvd after the install and booting etch cdrom does not work it shows in fstab but not in /dev there is no hda file
01:36<padski>sydgdfgs, sata hdd ?
01:36<sydgdfgs>yes
01:36<imperia>do ls -al /dev/sd*
01:36<sydgdfgs>ide cdrom/dvd
01:36<warripei>hello I've a problem with hald. help, please
01:36<sydgdfgs>i have sd files
01:36<sydgdfgs>they work
01:36<imperia>that's your cd too
01:36<sydgdfgs>in fstab its not path to that
01:37<sydgdfgs>its path to dev/hda
01:37<imperia>there is no /dev/hda anymore i guess
01:37<imperia>tell me the output of ls -al /dev/sd*
01:37<sydgdfgs>one sec
01:37<Supaplex>time's up
01:37<Supaplex>imperia: yup
01:38<mc>you might want to try ls -l /dev/cdrom
01:38<imperia>yes.. mine cd is /dev/cdrom1 which is link to /dev/scd0
01:39<warripei>I've tried to upgrade the installation
01:39<warripei>and now the system say me that there is problems
01:40<warripei>with hald and kdebase
01:40<sydgdfgs>i also have no cdrom file in /dev
01:40<imperia>warripei: how you upgraded your installation?
01:40<sydgdfgs>this /dev/sda , /dev/sda1 , /dev/sda2 , /dev/sd5 , /dev/sda6
01:40<mc>you said you installed debian from cd?
01:40<imperia>is there /dev/scd*
01:40<sydgdfgs>from dvd iso image same dvd in there
01:40<imperia>ls -al /dev/scd*
01:40<sydgdfgs>after the boot of debian stopped working
01:41<sydgdfgs>let me check scd
01:41<warripei>with apt-get dist-upgrade
01:41<imperia>what does your /dev/apt/sources.list says?
01:41<sydgdfgs>nothing with scd*
01:41<imperia>hmm
01:41<mc>dmesg | grep sd
01:41<sydgdfgs>yah your telling me
01:42<sydgdfgs>i said the same thing kind of wierd
01:42<sydgdfgs>don't know what went wrong
01:42<mc>ttyl,
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01:42<jm_>just run this instead: ls /sys/block ; grep 1 /sys/block/*/removable
01:43<imperia>not much ideas. modprobe cdrom?
01:43<sydgdfgs>tried already
01:44<sydgdfgs>giving me a headache 2 days on this garbage
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01:46<SpeedyG>padski: is it possible to update the $PATH value without having to log out and in again ?
01:46<imperia>dmesg | grep sd or dmesg | grep cd
01:46<padski>SpeedyG, yes. it is just an enviroment variable
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01:47<padski>SpeedyG, for example in bash you might do "export PATH=/bin" or whatever
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01:48<padski>SpeedyG, man bash
01:48<jm_>don't do that
01:48<SpeedyG>padski: that, however, only sets the $PATH variable on the current terminal, not on the entire x-session thing :(
01:48<warripei>how can i restart hald?
01:48<imperia>/etc/init.d/hal restart maybe
01:50<warripei>when I tried it the system appears blocked
01:50<warripei>when I tried it the system "looks like" blocked
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01:51<padski>SpeedyG, ah! I see what you mean. that is in the nature of enviroment variables. as it goes ISTR there is some code in debian that will add ~/bin to your path if it exists at the time ?
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01:52<padski>SpeedyG, so possibly just easiest for you to log in and out :-)
01:52<padski>or out and in
01:53<SpeedyG>hm, the .bash_profile seems to get ignored :|
01:53<SpeedyG>or at least, ~/bin isnt added even tho it's stated in .bash_profile to do so
01:53<Supaplex>or source ~/.bash_profile
01:54<SpeedyG>Supaplex: that also only works on 'current-terminal' in X :(
01:54<sydgdfgs>anyone know how i can add hda to /dev manually ?
01:55<Supaplex>SpeedyG: that's why I have it sourced from ~/.xinitrc
01:55<padski>hda is b 3 0 on my system, but I doubt you want to do it that way :-)
01:56<SpeedyG>Supaplex: any idea on why the .bash_profile isnt used?
01:56<sydgdfgs>you guys wouldn't think upgrading the kernel might solve my issue ?
01:56<Supaplex>SpeedyG: http://rafb.net/p/f7gjHi69.html is it sourced from your .bashrc?
01:56<padski>i forget but ... you don't get a login shell with xdm ??
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01:57<padski>sydgdfgs, did you try what jm_ suggested ?
01:57<sydgdfgs>um no
01:58<SpeedyG>Supaplex: i've just come across this post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/12/msg01781.html , perhaps I should start to read that part of man bash too :)
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02:02<jm_>!bashrc
02:02<dpkg>~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells. To make sure it's read by a login shell, put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile, or just remove the comment that is placed before the already typed include line that Debian's ~/.bash_profile has by default.
02:02<Supaplex>my $HOME predates that default. hehehe
02:04<padski>now its if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi
02:05<jm_>indeed
02:05<jm_>Supaplex: see /etc/skel/.bash_profile
02:05<Supaplex>yes yes yes, I know.
02:05<padski>:-)
02:06<SpeedyG>raah, this is kinda driving me nuts :(
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02:11<SpeedyG>hm
02:11<padski>!nuts
02:11<dpkg>"Scientists say 1 out of every 4 people is crazy, check 3 friends, if they are ok, you're it."
02:11<SpeedyG>now its in path, by adding it to .bashrc manually
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02:13<imperia>do somebody know any easy way of killing all RC (marked for purging) packages?
02:13<jm_>sure
02:14<Requiem>So what do I do if 3 out of 4 of my friends are crazy?
02:14<imperia> . /ignore 3of4 or ignore the noncrazy one
02:14<padski>Requiem, ask your consultant how long til you get out
02:15<Requiem>friday, I resolved not to leave the house tomorrow
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02:17<imperia>jm: you know how to purge those packages?
02:17<jm_>!tell imperia -about purge
02:17<jm_>imperia: you should also stop asking yes/no questions
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02:22<sydgdfgs>bye
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02:24<debnoob>Simple noob question, I feel like a fool for asking, but here goes.... what is the command to turn off and start X (I'm using gnome and want to shut it down to install a video driver
02:25<debnoob>I've done it before but I can't seem to figure it out. I tried init 3 but the X is still running
02:25<jm_>debnoob: logout; press <ctrl-alt-f1>, login as root ; /etc/init.d/gdm stop
02:26<debnoob>ah gdm stop. will that also shut down the X server?
02:26<jm_>yes
02:26<debnoob>I esentially want to shut down the windows application while I update the vid driver
02:27<debnoob>and to start it up again ?
02:27<jm_>start gdm again
02:28<debnoob>I see, thanks
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02:34<Supaplex>wtf? uh, windows app???
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02:42<K|NgGh0sT>When trying to connect to any port on my server it takes a really really long time, http, ftp, ssh. Typically it times out, anyone know a reason why?
02:43<bremner>bad dns?
02:43<padski>K|NgGh0sT, dns timeout maybe ?
02:43<jm_>K|NgGh0sT: the answer is obvious -- no
02:43<K|NgGh0sT>I'm inside the lan, and connecting via ip's
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02:43<bremner>host servername completes ??
02:43<bremner>ooh, sorry
02:44<bremner>I think you need to ask you network admin. Unless that is you
02:44<padski>K|NgGh0sT, reverse lookup ?
02:45<K|NgGh0sT>padski, it's just a home router network. There isn't any hostnames on the servers
02:45<jm_>which doesn't mean it's not trying to do it
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02:46<Gh0sTeE>How can I check if that is it?
02:48<jm_>which daemons are involved?
02:48<Gh0sTeE>opensshd, apache2, and wu-ftpd
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02:49<bremner>firewall? what does nmap say?
02:49<jm_>is wu-ftpd started from inetd?
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02:49<Gh0sTeE>jm_, I'm not sure lemme check
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02:50<Gh0sTeE>Yes I believe it does
02:50<jm_>just check inetd.conf
02:50<jm_>or xinetd if you're using that
02:51<Gh0sTeE>yes it is
02:51<Gh0sTeE>ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/wu-ftpd -l
02:51<Gh0sTeE>bremner, I don't belive I have a firewall
02:51<jm_>copy that line, comment out the original, remove "/usr/sbin/tcpd" from the new line and restart inetd
02:51<Gh0sTeE>Everything was working fine yeterday
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02:53<bremner>Gh0sTeE: well, nmap -O serverip will tell you for sure
02:54<Gh0sTeE>Hrmm, not sure how to restart inetd has it doesn't have an init script
02:54<jm_>invoke-rc.d inetd restart
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02:55<jm_>maybe openbsd-inetd instead of inetd, depending on which you use
02:55<Gh0sTeE>invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/inetd not found.
02:55<Gh0sTeE>alright I restarted it
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02:57<Gh0sTeE>Still slow connecting in via ftp
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02:58<jm_>hmm, then I guess strace would tell more
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02:59<jm_>alternatively you should find out what changed since yesterday
03:01<Gh0sTeE>Thats the thing, I didn't apt-get anything, didn't turn it off, no one can get in from the outside. Syslog shows nothing unusual
03:01<jm_>strace it then
03:03<Gh0sTeE>never used strace
03:03<Gh0sTeE>I guess I should check the manpage
03:03<jm_>find sshd's pid, strace -o /tmp/strace.txt -s 256 -p pid
03:03<jm_>then check /tmp/strace.txt
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03:05<jm_>forgot the important part - 1. run strace, 2. connect, 3. wait till you get the prompt and then you can ctrl-c strace and check strace.txt
03:05<Gh0sTeE>read(5, <unfinished ...>
03:06<jm_>yeah but read from where?
03:06<Gh0sTeE>thats all it says
03:06<jm_>you shoul dgo back and find out what FD 5 is
03:06<Gh0sTeE>Not sure what you mean
03:06<imperia>did you connected first to the sshd?
03:06<jm_>or paste it on some pastebin if that's OK with you
03:07<Gh0sTeE>naw I ran strace connected via ssh and then logged int waiting and then quit strace
03:07<Gh0sTeE>thats all the log said
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03:07<goatman>hello all
03:07<Gh0sTeE>there are two sshd's running lemme try the other pid
03:08<jm_>wait, you get the timeout after you login, not waiting for login prompt?
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03:08<Gh0sTeE>I get timeout in ftp and http. ssh just takes 20 seconds or so for the password to come up
03:09<jm_>do you have any ssh connections active? if not there should be just one pid
03:09<Gh0sTeE>I have three
03:09<Gh0sTeE>Lemme exit out of them
03:10<jm_>ahh then just find the main one, no need to exit
03:10<jm_>probably the lowest number
03:10<Gh0sTeE>well I have traffic over the others so lemme at least kill some of them
03:10<jm_>doesn't matter
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03:12<Gh0sTeE>jm_, sending you the url via msg...
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03:14<jm_>Gh0sTeE: did you experience timeouts during this run?
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03:14<Gh0sTeE>jm_, SSH doens't timeout, it just takes a really long time for the password to come up
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03:16<jm_>Gh0sTeE: ok, we need to trace the child too - strace -fr -o /tmp/strace.txt -p pid
03:16<jm_>Gh0sTeE: and do not enter any usernames/passwords
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03:17<Gh0sTeE>I'm not sure what you mean by the child
03:17<Gh0sTeE>the net session?
03:17<Gh0sTeE>er new
03:17<jm_>just run the above command
03:17<jm_>yeah
03:17<jm_>because that's where it takes so long, not the main process
03:18<Gh0sTeE>so just start a new connect run strade
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03:18<Gh0sTeE>strace?
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03:19<jm_>no, run strace first then connect
03:19<Gh0sTeE>on what pid then
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03:20<jm_>the same as before ;)
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03:21<debnoob>Hello again, thanks for answering my silly question so quickly
03:22<debnoob>I have now installed successfully the Nvidia linux driver, I am so proud of myself. I noticed it was real easy in Debian
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03:22<debnoob>I think I'm going to start a Blog to document my Debian experience and share what I've learned with other noobs
03:23<kcynice>help!when I change my debian from stable to testing,every program could make my os none-respons
03:24<debnoob>now I have to figure out how to do it manually for my webcam
03:24<kcynice>so that,I have to reinstalled my debian
03:24<debnoob>reinstall debian? I didn't think that was ever necesary
03:25<kcynice>All of the os have no response !
03:25<kcynice>yes
03:25<kcynice>for example,i started xchat
03:25<debnoob>and
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03:26<kcynice>firefox,and so on
03:26<kcynice>except terminal
03:27<debnoob>you mean you can't run termina
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03:28<JustSoul>Hello, when I try to mount Win2003 share, it write's that: "SMB signing is mandatory and we have disable it". How to check it?
03:28<kcynice>I only can run terminal.but if i start another program such as xchat,all of my os refuse to work!
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03:29<Supaplex>dpkg: wtf pfm
03:29<dpkg>Gee... I don't know what pfm means...
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03:29<Florian>hi folks
03:30<debnoob>/sg kcynice that sounds like you have an issue with X
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03:30<kcynice>debnoob:I can only move my mouse!
03:32<ant_>anyone know how to get pbuilder working on a 64 bit system to build 32 bit packages? It works if I login to the chroot by hand and issue dpkg-buildpackage, but pbuilder fails to build automatically: dh_installdirs: dpkg-architecture failed
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03:34<Florian>!why icedove
03:34<Florian>!why iceweasel
03:34<dpkg>Why iceweasel? Debian cannot comply with the conditions necessary to distribute firefox and call it firefox, so we have changed the name to iceweasel. See http://bugs.debian.org/354622 or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_conflict_between_Debian_and_Mozilla for more information.
03:34<blarson>ant_: I'd try running it from linux32
03:34<Florian>!why gnome
03:34<Florian>erf... it doesn't know much things
03:34<ant_>blarson: I have, but it seems to make no difference - why does dh_installdirs care about arch?
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03:35<Florian>I'm trying to find why is gnome the default GUI when you install Debian. Does anyone know ?
03:35<gsimmons>JustSoul: Use cifs instead of smbfs.
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03:36<jm_>Florian: it doesn't really matter since it's trivial to change it for something else
03:37<JustSoul>gsimmons: thx
03:37<morgan`>hello
03:37<Florian>jm_, sure but i'm just curious
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03:38<Florian>why debian choose gnome
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03:38<Florian>is there some licence problems or they just prefer it ?
03:39<devil>Florian: i think it has historical reasons, KDE was not always as free as it is today
03:40<jm_>because of qt
03:40<jm_>KDE itself was
03:40<Florian>qt is not free ?
03:40<nihil>Florian you can also give a flag to the installer for desktop-enviroment kde
03:40<hathe>Florian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29#History
03:41<Florian>nihil, it doesn't matter... as far as i'm concerned I only install minimal system and i put the pieces each after another
03:41<devil>jm_: right, sry, i was not precise
03:41<nihil>Florian okay ;)
03:41<Florian>i was just curious... thanx for the link hathe
03:42<jm_>devil: you put us on the right track ;)
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03:46<antares>i have this message on /var/log/X.log "Fatal server error:
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03:46<antares>No valid FontPath could be found.
03:46<antares>(WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor
03:46<antares>(WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor"
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03:48<Supaplex>EFAIL
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03:51<Florian>i think you should check if you have xfont-...-dpi or something like that installed
03:52<hathe>Florian: he's not here anymore..
03:53<Florian>ho... i didn't realize
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04:01<panv>how can i get the ip addresses used on a certain network >???
04:01<hathe>panv: ifconfig?
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04:02<padski>panv, dhcp ?
04:02<panv>i don't know...
04:02<padski>panv, gathered that :-)
04:02<padski>panv, what network ?
04:02<panv>my own network...
04:03<panv>i want to change my local ipaddress on my own network
04:03<jm_>try arp -na
04:03<panv>but i keep getting conflicts.../
04:03<panv>so, i want to get the list of the used ips on the network
04:03<hathe>panv: nmap 192.168.1.0/24
04:03<padski>panv, do you have some network admin ?
04:03<jm_>there are also tools like nmap or arpwatch and so on
04:04<panv>it's somehow mixed all around here..
04:04<panv>of course there is an admin.. but i wouldnt know him...
04:05<hathe>panv: nmap 192.168.1.0/24 does that job for 192.168.1.x
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04:05<hathe>panv: takes some minutes...
04:06<panv>i am installing that
04:06<padski>that should get you a network admin ;-)
04:06<panv>i dont have it... i am apt-gettttttin it...
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04:06<pumpkin0>padski: maybe, just maybe we should tell him about using the phone instead.
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04:07<panv>it only gave me my ip ...
04:07<panv>i can only see myself... and the main server....
04:07<panv>with all the open ports i am having hehehe lololololololo
04:07<padski>pumpkin0, I have worked in a big organisation which had trouble holding together a phone directory for units of more than a few hundred people. I sympathise somewhat :-)
04:07<panv>.
04:08<hathe>panv: nmap -P0 192.168.1.0/24
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04:08<pumpkin0>padski: uhm, in that case, what about a ping -b 0.0.0.0 ?
04:08<hathe>panv: -P0 takes long...
04:09<panv>i have all the time....
04:09<panv>but if my main ip is 172.18.24.1...
04:09<panv>i should type
04:09<panv>nmap -P0 172.18.24.1/24 ?????
04:10<hathe>no
04:10<padski>pumpkin0, thing is ... in practice this is no way to solve the problem. any inventory will be missing systems that are switched off. once a lan gets to a certain fullness, without dhcp, it becomes pure comedy :-)
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04:10<hathe>nmap -P0 172.18.24.0/24
04:10<hathe>panv: ^
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04:11<panv>it is not working as i like
04:11<panv>i only need the list of used ip addresses on my local network
04:11<padski>panv, ask your admin
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04:12<panv>hehehe
04:12<panv>i am asking the pro people... i dont give a shit about the admin here...
04:12<panv>i dont even know the place....
04:13<hathe>panv: -P0 can't be finished jet..
04:13<hathe>*yet
04:13<panv>i cant remember the man...
04:13<panv>hate him...
04:13<panv>i know... it's working...
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04:13<panv>i noticed that just now...
04:13<panv>i thought before that it has finished... but i know it is still working.... now
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04:21<panv>i think i will stop that deamon... it's taking forever...
04:21<panv>-P0 really consumes time
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04:23<pumpkin0>panv: do a quick scan to find the hosts, then do a -P0 on the selected IPs ?
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04:24<panv>i don't like the nmap
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04:27<hathe>pumpkin0: -P0 finds hosts nmap without an option does not find
04:29<pumpkin0>hathe: -sP -T4 is much quicker and finds everything that reacts to basic networking. If a PC is firewalled heavily enough to mask -sP ...
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04:31<hathe>pumpkin0: as -P0 worked for me and I usually have enough time to use it I never thought of "improve" it ;)
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04:33<pumpkin0>hathe: -P0 basicly tests all ports on all IPs in the range. That is OK if the host-online fails to find some, but it is dead slow. And it triggers every network-IDS i can think of...
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04:35<hathe>pumpkin0: the first time I run -sP -T4 here it did not find a host that is even pingable...the next times taht client was found...strange
04:36<pumpkin0>hathe: if the network drops a single packet things go pearshaped. And -T4 is asking for trouble on big and loaded networks.
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05:12<morii>hi
05:12<morii>i have a problem with dma and two hd's
05:13<morii>smart shows errors on hda e.g. UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 458
05:13<morii>smart shows _no_ errors on hdb.
05:13<morii>but dma on hdb is disabled after: ide0: reset: success. NOT hda ???
05:13<morii>hdparm -k /dev/hd[ab] : keepsettings = 0 (off)
05:13<morii>any hints?
05:13<jm_>hmm I am getting UDMA CRC errors for a long time at home, but no errors as far as Linux goes
05:13<morii>IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
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05:15<morii>what i really don't understand is: why is hdb disabled and not hda which shows errors?
05:17<jm_>you need to look at kernel errors to figure that out, not smart
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05:18<morii>kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
05:18<morii>kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
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05:18<morii>kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
05:18<morii>kernel: hdb: DMA disabled
05:18<morii>kernel: ide0: reset: success
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05:22<jm_>morii: heh nice, maybe it's a bug or does it disable it for both?
05:22<morii>no only the hd without errors is disabled
05:22<Supaplex>oh but SiS is beyond disabled. it's crippled for life.
05:22<jm_>then your best bet is to test it with latest kernel and possibly report a bug
05:23<morii>kernel: Linux case 2.6.18-5-k7 #1 SMP Mon Dec 24 17:18:11 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
05:23<morii>on etch
05:23<jm_>yeah I was thinking 2.6.23
05:23<muhkuh>hi people i cannot download files system: debian4.0ETCH online updated nautilus is chrashing
05:24<muhkuh>^^
05:24<morii>ok i'll try
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05:30<panv>is the package ieee80211 available in debian or should i get it from sourceforge ?>?
05:31<Ganneff>ask apt-cache search
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06:16<Guldhammer>Hi, i need some help to remove apache2 completely............i have tried, but without luck
06:16<Guldhammer>->> on Debian 4.0
06:16<zobel>apt-get remove --purge apache2-common
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06:17<Guldhammer>Thanks, i will try that
06:17<zobel>it is apache2.2-common
06:18<Guldhammer>hmm, it seems that apache 2.2 not is installed
06:18<Guldhammer>i can't get apache 1.3 work proberbly, i wont show php files, only html
06:18<zobel>dpkg -l | grep apache
06:19<zobel>libapache-mod-php5
06:20<jm_>apache 1.3 works just fine with php
06:21<Guldhammer>i get the same fault, my server tries to send me the php file instead of show it
06:21<zobel>you need to activate mod_php perhaps?
06:22<Guldhammer>ehh, how?
06:22<zobel>a2enmod php5
06:22<jm_>hat doesn't work for apache 1.3
06:22<zobel>args, right.
06:22<Guldhammer>-bash: a2enmod: command not found
06:22<Guldhammer>it says
06:22<zobel>upgrade to apache2 :)
06:23<Guldhammer>nope, need apache 1.3
06:23<zobel>which is bugy and has security issues.
06:23<zobel>and IIRC apache1 is EOLed
06:24<Guldhammer>yes, but i need apache 1.3, i'm not sure apache 2.2 wil work with my site
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06:37<johnny27>hello
06:37<johnny27>i am new to this so pls bear with me. i want to download debian programs and install them on an offline computer. so i downloaded the deb files put them on a cd and tried to dpkg them. but then a lot of the dependencies are missing. i dont want to download each of the dependencies so is there a way for me to do an offline install on a custom burned cd
06:38<jm_>yes
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06:39<johnny27>hello
06:39<AndyJ_Australia>jm_: <ahem>
06:39<johnny27>i am new to this so pls bear with me. i want to download debian programs and install them on an offline computer. so i downloaded the deb files put them on a cd and tried to dpkg them. but then a lot of the dependencies are missing. i dont want to download each of the dependencies so is there a way for me to do an offline install on a custom burned cd
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06:40<johnny27>am i on the right channel?
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06:41<Christmas>yes
06:41<Christmas>you have several possibilities
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06:41<johnny27>hello christmas!
06:41<Christmas>you can download all the cds or dvds and burn them (they include most of the software you want to install)
06:41<Christmas>or you can create an offline repository on a cd or dvd
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06:42<Christmas>i never did it, but there was a tutorial somewhere
06:42<jm_>or use stuff like apt-zip
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06:42<johnny27>ok thanks guys ill take it from here
06:42<pumpkin0>johnny27: create a mirror and use that. But mirrors are huge and tend to to contain a lot unneeded stuff.
06:43<muep>hello
06:44<muep>I've installed sid's nvidia-glx and the respective nvidia kernel module, which I built with module-assistant
06:44<muep>now they have been updated, and I'd like to install the updated versios
06:44<muep>*versions
06:44<muep>but module-assistant installs the older version of nvidia-kernel
06:45<muep>even when I have a newer nvidia-kernel-source installed
06:47<jm_>did you try m-a update?
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06:47<muep>jm_: have tried
06:47<jm_>muep: then maybe try -f switch
06:48<themill>!tell johnny27 about apt-zip
06:50<muep>jm_: build fails.
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06:52<jm_>muep: but it uses new version?
06:52<muep>it then installs an old version from /usr/src
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06:52<jm_>well that's normal if build failed
06:53<harpal>Hey I cant do su in my system. it says that Authentication failure
06:53<harpal>and I can login through root and password from console (Ctrl + Alt + F1)
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06:55<themill>!ifrp
06:55<dpkg>1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. etch, sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same.
06:56<seanius>jm_: i've been seeing the same problem as muep , i think there must be a bug in n-k-s or m-a
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06:56<jm_>seanius: wll what's the error?
06:57<sheldonh>my laptop has a lisp :)
06:57<muhkuh>how can i dwnld files via ftp?
06:57<sheldonh>sometimes, it repeats my s keystrokes :)
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06:58<harpal>themill, I dont forgot my password, I have done this things 3-4 times nu have same roblem
06:58<harpal>* problem
06:58<Staz>muhkuh : lftpget <file>
06:58<harpal>I can login through console with username root and my password. so password is correct
06:59<gsimmons>muhkuh: Weren't you told about wget usage earlier?
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06:59<DTE>hi all
06:59<DTE>i got some mproblem with the etch installer
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06:59<DTE>suddenly it became slowly and it make really long to complete an operation
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07:00<themill>harpal: sorry.. I thought you said that you *couldn't* log in on console either. OK... Is there anything in the /var/log/auth.log about your su attempt?
07:00<DTE>how can i see which app is sucking resources?
07:00<muhkuh>yeh but it always tells me : not connectet
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07:00<kurumin>oi
07:01<kurumin>alguem fala porgues?
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07:02<harpal>themill, let me pastebin it
07:03<seanius>jm_: muep : #459862
07:03<gsimmons>muhkuh: There are many FTP clients available to you. If you have an issue with their use, you'll need to provide the commands given and error output received at a paste site.
07:03<gsimmons>!paste
07:03<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics.
07:03<jm_>seanius: heh too obvious
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07:05<sheldonh>how do you specify to aptitude search that two terms should be ANDed, not ORed?
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07:05<muhkuh>i should paste in here?
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07:06<muhkuh>sry bad english ^^
07:06<harpal>themill, see http://pastebin.com/d35324519 I got in auth.log
07:06<gsimmons>muhkuh: No. Use a paste site. See dpkg's earlier message.
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07:07<kurumin>kl
07:07<sheldonh>muhkuh: aptitude search ~Gfiletransfer::ftp~Gnetwork::client
07:07<sheldonh>:)
07:07*sheldonh pats himself on the back
07:07<themill>harpal: they are the messages that you would get for a wrong password... is your keyboard layout different between X and console, perhaps?
07:08<kurumin>alguem fala portugues/
07:08<harpal>so how would I know that?
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07:08<themill>!pt
07:08<dpkg>Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
07:08<harpal>or make both keyboard layout same
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07:09<kurumin>obrigado
07:09<themill>harpal: if you tried typing your password somewhere so you can see that it has worked (e.g. into an editor or just at the command line... just don't press enter ;) that will tell you if chars are being translated in a strange way.
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07:10<harpal>yes I can see that and its correct
07:11<harpal>I have typed it on command line
07:11<muhkuh>can't get it :_(
07:12<themill>harpal: If you log in on console as harpal and then su does it work?
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07:12<harpal>no
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07:13<carlos>#joinville
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07:14<muhkuh>could you gimme the name of any ftp client with GUI?
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07:15<Staz>filezilla is the best GUI ftp client
07:15<muep>jm_: this had a solution for me: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=459848
07:15<Staz>but nothing beats lftp (cli client) :)
07:15<muhkuh>thanks ^^
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07:17<jm_>muep: yes, same as #459862
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07:19<harpal>themill, why its not doing su? any idea?
07:20<sheldonh>muhkuh: DAMNIT! aptitude search ~Gfiletransfer::ftp~Gnetwork::client
07:20<kcynice>i use mounted a fat format disk partion,but why i cound not unmount it,it said that the device is busy?
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07:20<jm_>kcynice: something has files opened on it, lsof is your friend
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07:21<muhkuh>no such file or directory
07:21<sheldonh>muhkuh: that's not the whole error message
07:21<jm_>muhkuh: aptitude search '~Gfiletransfer::ftp~Gnetwork::client'
07:21<sheldonh>well, for a gui one...
07:21<sheldonh>aptitude search '~Gfiletransfer::ftp~Gnetwork::client~Ginterface::x11'
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07:22<kcynice>jm_:yes,my current directory is the right mounted point
07:22<themill>harpal: can't think of one... I don't think debian requires you to be in a specific group to be able to su. Can you su to a non-root user? (either as a non-root user or as root)
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07:23<muhkuh>bash: ~Gfiletransfer::ftp~Gnetwork::ftp://84.114.166.69:8888/../~Ginterface::X11: No such file or directory
07:23<muhkuh>what do i do?^^
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07:24<harpal>themill, no I have created one new user and from harpal user I have done su one than it doesnt login
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07:24<themill>harpal: if logged in as root, can you su to another user?
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07:24<harpal>Yes
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07:25<themill>well, that's a start :)
07:25<sheldonh>muhkuh: the idea is to type the whole thing i suggested as one command onto the command-line, then press enter
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07:25<muhkuh>and i did?
07:25<jm_>no you didn't
07:27<harpal>themill, means I cant solve that?
07:28<themill>harpal: Are you running etch?
07:28<sheldonh>muhkuh: doesn't look like it. looks like you included ftp://84.114.166.69:8888/../
07:28<harpal>themill, yes
07:28<morii>jm_: remember dma prob? i tried 2.6.22-3-k7 but the same pobs at all. will try now 2.6.23
07:28<sheldonh>muhkuh: not to mention leaving out "aptitude search "
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07:29<muhkuh>i recognized
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07:29<muhkuh>and did it
07:30<muhkuh>sry
07:31<muhkuh>now i can see a lot of lines
07:34<themill>harpal: does "which su" return /bin/su?
07:34*themill is grasping at straws here...
07:35<harpal>Yes
07:36<themill>harpal: and have you changed /etc/pam.d/su?
07:36<harpal>no
07:36<themill>or other pam stuff
07:36<harpal>no I havent changed any thing
07:36<harpal>hey one thing i would like to tell you that I have made one sample system to one folder and than I have chrooted it. than I have just changed date and time in that chroot and after that this problem occur.
07:38<themill>harpal: what does "date" say now? (and are you sure you're not trying su inside that chroot... :)
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07:39<harpal>themill, now its Thu Jan 17 18:08:38 IST 2008 and than in chroot Thu Jan 17 12:38:53 UTC 2008
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07:52<harpal>themill, how to solve that?
07:52<kapil>harpal: IST = UTC + 5:30 so that is not a problem
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07:53<themill>harpal: it's unlikely to be related... I was just wondering if you'd screwed up the time on your main installation and if that could cause your problem, given what you had said. Some pam checks are fussy about the date/time being within an error margin of reality.
07:53<harpal>ohhh ok
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07:54<harpal>themill, than how to reinstall that pam module?
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07:57<kapil>harpal: before re-installing check the installed module by using md5sum to compare with the default in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpam-modules.md5sum
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07:57<nuss>hi
07:58<kapil>harpal: or just use "debsums libpam-modules"
07:58<harpal>kapil, I dont have /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpam-modules.md5sum
07:58<harpal>I dont have debsum
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07:59<themill>!installit
07:59<dpkg>*** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude
08:00<kapil>harpal: ^s/md5sum/md5sums/
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08:00<harpal>kapil I have done md5sum /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpam-modules.md5sums Is it right?
08:00<kapil>harpal: it is "debsums" not "debsum"
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08:02<harpal>kapil I have installed debsums and than done debsums libpam-modules than I get OK in every line
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08:03<kapil>harpal: no. you need to check the specific module. say you want to check "/lib/security/pam_env.so". then you do "md5sum /lib/security/pam_env.so" and compare that with "grep pam_env.so /var/lib/dpkg/info/lbpam-modules.md5sums".
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08:03<kapil>harpal: of course "debsums" is a useful to tool to have around to avoid typing all that stuff.
08:04<kapil>harpal: great. that means the libpam-modules are not corrupted.
08:04<harpal>ok so what causing that problem?
08:05<kapil>harpal: i came in late. what was your problem?
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08:05<themill>kapil: cannot su to root but can login as root
08:05<harpal>I have this http://pastebin.com/d35324519 in my auth.log
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08:09<themill>harpal: is su still suid root?
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08:10<harpal>themill, means? I am just typing su
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08:11<themill>harpal: ls -l /bin/su
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08:11<harpal>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27K 2007-02-27 13:23 /bin/su*
08:12<harpal>I have done ls -alFh /bin/su
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08:13<themill>harpal: that's your problem.... how is that no longer SUID root? (and why didn't I think to ask this earlier)
08:14<themill>it should be: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 27K 2007-02-27 07:53 /bin/su
08:14<kapil>themill: you found it!
08:14<themill>harpal: ^^ note the "s" in the first octet there
08:14<harpal>hey so how to do that?
08:14<themill>harpal: aptitude reinstall login
08:14<themill>should do it
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08:15<themill>harpal: now... why is it not suid root? Are you running some sort of system checking script that was complaining about suid binaries so you chmod u-s some of them?
08:15<kapil>themill: one should hope so. however, consider the possibility of /bin being on a file system that does not allow suid binaries.
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08:16<themill>erg
08:16<harpal>hey I have reinstall login and its working
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08:16<harpal>thanks a lot. guys
08:16<morii>jm_: Linux case 2.6.23-1-486, 14:13:13 case kernel: hdb: DMA disabled - while errors are shown on hda only! ARGH!
08:16<themill>!happy customer
08:16<dpkg>(Another happy customer leaves the building. Should be a law against them...)
08:16<Gekz>do i have to add anything to hosts.allow for sshd to be accessed by the wan?
08:17<streuner_>no
08:17<harpal>I have this problem from week and finally you have solve that
08:17<kapil>themill: take a bow.
08:17*themill bows
08:17<themill>Gekz: not by default, but if you are talking about your home ADSL setup, you probably need to tell your modem/router to forward ssh connections to your machine.
08:18<Gekz>i know that
08:18<Gekz>its all good.
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08:19<jm_>morii: I would report a kernel bug then, or maybe search if someone has already done so
08:20<morii>jm_: can it be a hardware prob - and if, who can i check for this
08:20<jm_>morii: I doubt it's a hardware problem - check kernel bugzilla, and use google ;)
08:21<morii>jm: ok i'll try
08:21<morii>hmpf!
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08:39<morii>jm_: " DMA: Wrong device is disabled" http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8567
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08:41<jm_>morii: without solution I see
08:42<morii>jm_: yes indeet and the same f*cking asrock!
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08:42<jm_>morii: maybe it's a driver bug
08:44<morii>but it's worse - may be i use hdparm -k1 on hdb and than i'll copy all from hda to hdb
08:46<morii>s/indeet/indeed/
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08:50<Guldhammer>Hi, is it normal when i wil install apache (apt-get install apache) that it install apache2-utils?
08:50<Guldhammer>it not apache2, but apache 1.3
08:50<jm_>yes
08:50<Guldhammer>why?
08:51<Guldhammer>it have never dine that before
08:51<Guldhammer>dine=done
08:51<jm_>apache-common depends on it
08:51<Guldhammer>ahh okay, thanks
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08:56<morii>jm_: do think a badblock can be the reason for messages like: "dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" and "dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }" ?
08:56<jm_>morii: badblocks typically yield status=0x51 error=0x41 (or 40, I forgot) - I would first try changing the cable
08:57<morii>did a cable change already
08:58<morii>jm_: some more suggestions :)
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09:01<jm_>morii: no idea really - I also got UDMA CRC errors, changed cables, but I still keep getting them, but I do not get kernel errors
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09:04<kcynice>i install d4x,but can't quit!
09:04<kcynice>i mean that when d4x started,i can't close it
09:05<gsimmons>kcynice: No response to CTRL+Q?
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09:07<kcynice> yes,i only can terminate the program by that way!but i think it must not be the way the program want
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09:14<morii>jm_: searching old logs i found kernel errors for hdc (cdrom) too, but i didn't used hdc for a long time. this messages only appeared on _one_ day. Uhh may be there is something complete wrong
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09:16<padski>is there a good way to configure exim to use procmail, there doesn't seem to be an option in the dpkg-reconfigure :-(
09:17<jm_>padski: it does use it by default if users have ~/.procmailrc
09:17<jm_>at least exim 3.3 ;)
09:18<jm_># This transport is used for procmail
09:18<jm_>procmail_pipe: ...
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09:19<padski>jm_, thanks. I autoindented my way to a completely commented .procmailrc :-)
09:22<crazyb0y>i'm using debian testing, and i can't find software package for LEX --> Generates programs that perform pattern-matching on text.
09:22<crazyb0y>anyone can help?
09:23<crazyb0y>maybe it's renamed?
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09:23<themill>flex?
09:23<datenkrake_>hi @ all
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09:23<crazyb0y>themill: i need /usr/bin/lex
09:23<crazyb0y>=)
09:24<crazyb0y>not flex =)
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09:24<themill>crazyb0y: that file is supplied by flex: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/flex/filelist
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09:25<crazyb0y>huh
09:25<crazyb0y>let me see =)
09:25<crazyb0y>great =) thank you very much themill =)
09:25<themill>np
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09:31<Guldhammer>Hi again, now i have installed apache 1.3, but can anyone tell me why it can show me phpinfo.php but not index.php?
09:31<edthefox>Is it worth it to compile a custom kernel?
09:31<lupine_85>edthefox: not normally, no
09:31<jm_>Guldhammer: try it with wget
09:31<lupine_85>although the Gentoo-ers would disagree :p
09:31<nihil>well one should have baked a kernel once
09:32<Guldhammer>jm_: try what?
09:32<nihil>with or without gentoo ;)
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09:32<edthefox>I used to run gentoo.... but it just took up too much time compiling everything setting options etc etc
09:32<themill>Guldhammer: You need to set DirectoryIndex to include index.php. Check the apache2 docs on httpd.apache.org
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09:32<themill>^^ erm apache1.3 docs
09:33<Guldhammer>themill: ahh, i will try that, thanks
09:33<themill>Guldhammer: But as you were told earlier iirc, you really should upgrade to apache2.2
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09:33<edthefox>what I really want is a cool framebuffer set up like gentoo has on it's install cd
09:33<jm_>Guldhammer: download it, see if it generates html and not php code - isn't that your problem?
09:33<Guldhammer>themill: but i dont know if the script will work under apache2?
09:34<nihil>edthefox there are patches available to do that
09:35<themill>Guldhammer: then test it out :) It's possible to have both installed at the same time. You could run apache2 on port 81 or 8080 or similar to test it out. PHP4->5 is more likely to be a problem than apache1.3->2.2, but that is *also* a transition you *must* do soon. PHP4 is also EOL.
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09:35<edthefox>nihil: where would be the best place to start looking for that? google?
09:35<gsimmons>Guldhammer: 'index.php' should already be present for the DirectoryIndex directive, at least WRT Debian's default 'apache' configuration.
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09:37<nihil>edthefox either that or try wiki.debian.org
09:37<Guldhammer>themill: DirectoryIndex is set to index.php
09:38<themill>Guldhammer: did you do that in a .htaccess or in the apache configs?
09:38<edthefox>nihil: thanks... I cool book -> http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/3124
09:38<gsimmons>!tell edthefox -about fbcon setup
09:38<Guldhammer>themill: in the apache configs
09:39<themill>Guldhammer: and did you restart apache after making that change?
09:39<edthefox>gsimmons: thanks gene!
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09:40<gurpreet>i am unable to start kde from kdm and unable to run kde progs from fluxbox :(
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09:41<pumpkin0>gurpreet: what did you do before that happend ?
09:41<Guldhammer>themill: no because i didnt change anything
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09:42<Guldhammer>themill: It is this script i want to run with apache 1.3 -> http://crazygreek.co.uk/content/mod_shapvh
09:42<gurpreet>pumpkin0, i don't remember doing anything bad, i wanted to start kate from xterm in flubox and then i got to know abt the problem, then i tried to login in kde but i am unable to go past setting up IPC message in the splash screen
09:43<themill>Guldhammer: so what happens when you go to the directory in question?
09:43<pumpkin0>gurpreet: backup all ~/.kde* dirs, move them and try again.
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09:44<gurpreet>running kate in xterm fires up message "error starting IPC for KDE. couldn't read /home/geek/.DCOPserver_g33ky__0. Please check that dcopserver program is running"
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09:44<gurpreet>and then kde crash messagebox comes
09:44<Guldhammer>themill: i just get a IE failpage
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09:45<Guldhammer>themill: Ohh wait a second.......................IT WORKS
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09:46<gurpreet>pumpkin0, renaming .kde dir to some other name and then starting kate from xterm gave same error
09:46<themill>Guldhammer: yay! BTW for these sorts of things, try using wget and look at the page that it downloads for you. And use a browser other than IE... M$IE is making up its own error rather than displaying the one that apache gave to you, and destroying a useful error message in the process.
09:46<Guldhammer>themill: It was 1 character wrong in my "Namevirtualhost" that blocks for all my sites
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09:46<pumpkin0>gurpreet: create a new user, log out and try using the new user.
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09:47<Guldhammer>themill: I will try to do that
09:47<Guldhammer>themill: Thanks for your help
09:47<gurpreet>pumpkin0, copied
09:47<themill>Guldhammer: that will do it to you... It looks like an interesting thing that you're playing with there... good luck with it ;)
09:48<gurpreet>brb
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09:49<Guldhammer>themill: Thanks
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09:52<gurpreet>pumpkin0, loggin in from new user worked
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09:52<gurpreet>pumpkin0, i think prob lies with .ICE* files in my home folder
09:53<pumpkin0>gurpreet: OK, yes, one of your config-files is borked. now use try-and-error to find it.
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09:53<gurpreet>pumpkin0, cool, i was thinking what to do tonight. debian read my mind :P
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09:54<pumpkin0>gurpreet: look at the file timestamps and start with the last one somebody edited ?
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09:55<gurpreet>pumpkin0, i deleted .ICE* files in the first round of my trial and error and run kate, it worked
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09:55<gurpreet>pumpkin0, thanks
09:55<pumpkin0>gurpreet: well, if you don't need the config anyway..
09:55<gurpreet>pumpkin0, which config?
09:56<pumpkin0>gurpreet: .ICE stores your preferences.
09:56<gurpreet>pumpkin0, kde is ought to store everything of its use in .kde only
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09:57<arnold>hi 2 all
09:57<arnold>I have a problem with a remote debian sarge server
09:58<arnold>I wanted to install a chroot SSH environment for a specific user
09:58<arnold>with libpam-chroot
09:58<arnold>but after removing libpam-chroot (because I don't need this chroot env anymore) I cannot login with ssh anymore
09:58<arnold>any help ?
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09:59<Florian>did you try to reinstall sshd ?
09:59<arnold>cannot as it is a remote system
09:59<arnold>I don't have physicall access
09:59<nihil>do you have any access?
09:59<nihil>webmin etc...
09:59<arnold>no
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10:00<gurpreet>how can i have access to latest packages? which are not included in my etch?
10:00<gurpreet>like pidgin
10:00<arnold>I also tried to send a remote command with ssh
10:00<arnold>to it
10:00<arnold>but it doesn't execute it
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10:01<arnold>I get exit cod 254 from ssh
10:01<gurpreet>i dont want to manually find and download them
10:01<gurpreet>i want their reference in my repos
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10:01<Florian>arnold, is their a way to manually reboot the computer ?
10:02<Florian>by someone
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10:02<arnold>would be through a support request
10:02<Florian>or with power supply controling ?
10:02<arnold>but I don't know if this would help
10:02<Florian>it may be your only chance...
10:03<arnold>fuck
10:03<themill>!tell gurpreet about bpo
10:03<Florian>?
10:03<arnold>as I have services running which maybe are not started at startup :(
10:03<Florian>I see
10:03<Florian>telnet ? webmin ?
10:03<Florian>no you answered already
10:04<Florian>sry
10:04<Florian>hum i have something in mind... that could be very interesting but not very good if the server is important
10:05<padski>tell!
10:05<Florian>you know exactly what services and their versions are running ?
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10:06<Florian>you can try to find a remote exploit
10:06<arnold>that would be good thing
10:06<arnold>but don't really know which exploits are open
10:06<arnold>in debian sarge
10:06<padski>rofl
10:06<arnold>I only have tomcat running
10:06<padski>arnold, time to call support
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10:07<wexit>hi
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10:07<DTE>did anybody tried to install debian etch on a ITE raid controller?
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10:09<Florian>arnold you don't have many solutions... reboot or exploit... I really think you should try support... They reboot the computer and you can restart de services with ssh... or not
10:09<arnold>or not thats my problem :(
10:09<Florian>i understand
10:09<Florian>but do you have any choice ?
10:09<Florian>I don't think so...
10:10<padski>DTE, ITE IT8212 ?
10:10<DTE>padski: actually i don't exactly...its a pata raid 133
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10:10<DTE>two channels
10:10<DTE>it gives me very big problems
10:10<Florian>how do you want to fix something if you cannot put your hand on the server ?
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10:10<gurpreet>themill, got it, can i have lenny's packages by this method?
10:10<padski>DTE, lspci
10:11<dimitrakis_up>i have a problem during the installation of debian....
10:11<DTE>padski: i'll try but it's so slowly that i don't touch too much :-)
10:11<themill>!tell gurpreet about simple sid backport
10:11<dimitrakis_up>i downloaded the 64bit netist version but during the installation it says that it cannot find my hard drives
10:11<themill>gurpreet: if someone has already backported the packages from lenny, they will be on backports.org. Otherwise, you can make your own backports by recompiling the sources from either lenny or sid.
10:12<padski>Florian, tell arnold about simple etch backdoor ;-)
10:12<Florian>i know nothing about security and backdooring...
10:12<DTE>padski: i get this: pci_lookup_xxx: buffer too small
10:12<arnold>:)
10:12<arnold>I have a backdoor
10:12<Florian>and it seems that is running sarge
10:12<arnold>I have some jboss running
10:12<DTE>xxx is because i don't remember :-)
10:12<arnold>and I have ftp access
10:12<arnold>will code my own "mini" webmin
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10:13<Florian>sound like hell of an idea
10:13<arnold>:D
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10:13<Florian>exec("/etc/init.d/sshd restart");
10:14<DTE>pci_lookup_name: buffer too small
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10:14<padski>DTE, dunno :-(
10:15<dimitrakis_up>i downloaded the 64bit netist version but during the installation it says that it cannot find my hard drives
10:15<DTE>uff...it goes...but it's installing since 4 hours
10:15<pumpkin0>dimitrakis_up: SATA ?
10:15<dimitrakis_up>yes
10:15<dimitrakis_up>but not raid
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10:16<pumpkin0>dimitrakis_up: ia64 or amd64 ?
10:16<dimitrakis_up>amd64
10:16<dimitrakis_up>version
10:16<Florian>what's your proc ?
10:16<Florian>(just in case)
10:16<themill>!ia64
10:16<dpkg>it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's amd64
10:16<pumpkin0>dimitrakis_up: did you try to disable AHCI in the BIOS ?
10:16<dimitrakis_up>no
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10:17<dimitrakis_up>ok
10:17<dimitrakis_up>i m going to try that one...
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10:42<mzhang>dli, do you know there's a badram patch for kernels?
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10:45<penol>penol@linux:~$ fglrxinfofglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
10:45<penol>how to fix
10:45<penol>penol@linux:~$ fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
10:45<azeem>penol: you just pasted that
10:46<penol>azeem, : that dident work
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10:46<themill>penol: how did you install fglrx?
10:46<SpeedyG>anyone here know of a good movie-editing program? got some .asf file that I want to cut in some pieces ..
10:46<penol>themill: from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
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10:47<SpeedyG>i've tried kdenlive, but that couldnt do the trick :( doesnt work well with .asf
10:47<themill>penol: are you running Ubuntu or Debian?
10:47<penol>themill: ubuntu
10:47<themill>!ubuntu
10:47<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
10:47<themill>penol: then you will have to ask in #ubuntu.
10:48<azeem>themill: please add irc.freenode.net to avoid confusion
10:48<themill>azeem: oh... I thought it was on both networks... ok.
10:48*themill has never been there to know...
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10:49<themill>azeem: there is an #ubuntu on oftc too, but are they (more) useless?
10:50<azeem>it's mostly empty
10:50<themill>ahh
10:50<themill>penol: then you will have to ask in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net.
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10:50<alexbel2>Olá
10:50<SpeedyG>themill: he allready quit ;)
10:51<themill>gah
10:51<azeem>well he made it #u over there
10:51<themill>yep...
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10:51<alexbel2>I not understend never.
10:51<azeem>!br
10:51<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
10:52<alexbel2>Tank you.
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11:05<JasonF>Hi all, I'm trying to build a debian package that just contains binary files, and I want it to be installable on both i386 and 64bit installs of etch -- what do I need to do when building the package to allow this?
11:07<bremner>JasonF try #debian-mentors ?
11:07<padski>JasonF, sort of like a "fat binary" but a "fat package" ?
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11:08<JasonF>eh, yeah
11:08<JasonF>like our packages that just contain deps are built for "all"
11:08<JasonF>this contains files, but I know the files will work on amd64 and i386
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11:09<padski>ah, yeah, #debian-mentors
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11:22<sooperku1>I am having the problem that some users do not show up in utmp/wtmp (or "who") when logged in in Gnome. What program is normally responsible for doing this?
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11:24<padski>sooperku1, do they login through, say, gdm ?
11:25<sooperku1>yes, through gdm
11:25<sooperku1>as soon as i open a terminal, i see the user
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11:25<sooperku1>but not when there is no shell session (as is the case with most "normal" non-technical users)
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11:26<sooperku1>for some it works though, shell or not
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11:26<sooperku1>i tried tracing all the stuff in /etc/gdm/ but this did not help me
11:27<rjent>Greetings, how long till lenny moved to stable?
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11:27<malex>!iceweasel
11:27<dpkg>methinks iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is different from GNU's version of Firefox, which formerly had the same name but is now known as IceCat (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/). To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>.
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11:28<malex>Anyone else encountered the following iceweasel behaviour recently? "/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: Symbol `SSL_ImplementedCiphers' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking Segmentation fault"
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11:28<malex>This is a stock unstable package. I've rebuilt its source package on my system, but it wouldn't start either, just a segfault message.
11:28<padski>!wir
11:28<dpkg>wir is probably When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH
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11:29<padski>rjent ^
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11:32<malex>Bug#459718 sounds similar, though I don't recall terminating iceweasel on the startup.
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11:34<rjent>padski: ?
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11:35<padski>rjent, "when will lenny be released" => "when it is ready" :-)
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11:38<rjent>padski: :)
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11:38<jclinton>rjent: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny
11:39<rjent>jclinton: greetings
11:39<jclinton>hiya
11:39<padski>jclinton, thanks :-)
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11:45<Bauer>Your name looks nice
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11:53<DTE>i go...bye
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12:01<deepy>I got a IPW3945 ABG wireless LAN card, do I need any more drivers or such to get it working?
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12:03<hathe>deepy: firmware, yes
12:03<hathe>deepy: and kernel module
12:03<berto>deepy: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_PRO/Wireless_3945ABG_Mini-PCI_Express_Adapter
12:04<cahoot>deepy: what kernel?
12:05<deepy>2.6.23-1-686
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12:05<cahoot>IIRC iwlwifi is included in that
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12:05<cahoot>still need the fw though
12:06<deepy>Isn't the firmware available in non-free?
12:07<deepy>is iwlwifi available as a package?
12:07<cahoot>if you use iwlwifi (and not ipw3945) you want firmware-iwlwifi
12:07<cahoot>i
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12:08<cahoot>deepy: does modprobe iwl3945 give a 'file not found'?
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12:09<deepy>modprobe command not found :)
12:09<deepy>sec
12:09<deepy>it returned nothing
12:10<cahoot>lsmod show show it then
12:10<cahoot>should show
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12:11<deepy>how do you mean show? lsmod gives lots of output while lsmod show/lsmod show show gives a error message
12:11<cahoot>lsmod | grep iwl
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12:12<deepy>3 entries
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12:12<cahoot>so all you should need is install firmware-iwlwifi to actually be able to use it
12:12<deepy>I cannot find a package named firmware-iwlwifi
12:12<cahoot>add an i
12:13<deepy>though I got hte package firmware-iwl3945 installed
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12:13<deepy>testing got the package :P
12:13<cahoot>does dmesg say fw is loaded ok?
12:14<deepy>Well I installed the FW about 15 minutes before coming in here
12:14<cahoot>so scheck dmesg
12:15<cahoot>check
12:15<deepy>nope it failed
12:15<deepy>firmware file req failed: Reason -2
12:15<deepy>Could not read microcode: -2
12:15<deepy>probe of 0000:10.
12:15<deepy>10:00.00 failed with error -2*
12:15<cahoot>yea yea got the message
12:16<cahoot>I guess you need the abovementioned fw
12:17<deepy>okay those are installed now
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12:17<cahoot>so modprobe -r iwl3945, then modprobe it again and check dmesg
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12:18<deepy>link is not ready
12:19<cahoot>does dmesg say fw is loaded ok?
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12:19<themill>!killswitch
12:19<dpkg>ipw3945d will complain about the kill switch. This is either a keystroke (like Fn+F2) or a physical switch that you need to toggle to turn the radio on. When the kill switch is on, the radio is off (odd way of expressing things, isn't it?) and your network card won't work.
12:19<themill>^^ iwl has the same problem
12:19<deepy>it rather does NOT say it failed
12:20<themill>dpkg: killswitch =~ s/ipw3945d/ipw3945, iwl3945 and iwl4695/
12:20<dpkg>OK, themill
12:20<deepy>well the usually blue icon on my keyboard that is hte killswitch mentioned, is NOT emitting any light
12:20<cahoot>deepy: iwconfig?
12:20<deepy>wlan0 exists there
12:20<cahoot>there you go
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12:21<themill>deepy: if the light is off, then usually the kill switch is on (i.e. the wireless is disabled). But that does vary...
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12:22<Bauer>ls
12:22<avtobiff>pwd
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12:27<suiside>Bauer: don't do that
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12:27<deepy>well it seems to work, but it keeps on connecting and connecting and connecting
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12:27<avtobiff>often dcc list is unintentional
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12:27<deepy>I also got a Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
12:27<deepy>though nothing happens when I press the killswitch
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12:28<deepy>cahoot: anything else I need to do?
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12:32<deepy_>wlan0: link is not ready
12:32<deepy_>ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
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12:41<cahoot>iwlist scan - any sign of life?
12:42<deepy>wlan0 No scan results
12:43<cahoot>do you know for sure the status of the killswitch?
12:43<deepy>nothing happens when I press it
12:43<cahoot>not even in dmesg?
12:44<deepy>well dmesg says kill switch needs to be off for wireless networking to work
12:44<deepy>and it also just asid it's turned on
12:44<deepy>though it says nothing when I press it again
12:45<deepy>hmm perhaps it's worth antoehr go now, brb
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12:47<deepy>this time. *nothing*
12:48<deepy>oops, network cable fell out :P
12:48<deepy>well, this time DMESG says nothing
12:48<deepy>but it does not connect nonetheless
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12:49<deepy>in lsmod it says iwl3945 is used by 0
12:50<cahoot>same here
12:50<deepy>is it my router the problem is at then?
12:51<cahoot>mac80211 loaded?
12:51<deepy>yup
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12:51<deepy>and cfg80211
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12:52<cahoot>iwlist scan still fails?
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12:53<deepy>wlan0 No scan results
12:54<deepy>Do I need like the regulatory daemon or so?
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12:55<cahoot>not with iwlwifi
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12:58<deepy>hmm, I'll reboot and pray it works
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13:09<saudilinux>hello i have download the mint-Debian live cd
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13:10<saudilinux>it is uninstallable live cd driven by linux mint community
13:11<saudilinux>is there any way to install it????
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13:11<witte>saudilinux: this is #debian, not #mint
13:11<Nemoder>!debian-based
13:11<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
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13:12<saudilinux>witte sorry
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13:12<saudilinux>dpkg i am very sorry
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13:13<Deepy>everytime I boot up the PC it just turns itself off
13:14<Deepy>I think it happens at teh same time, but it happened after it checked the FS
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13:16<Deepy>though if I start it in single user mode it seems to work
13:19<Deepy>it was X fault apparently, bad configuration file
13:19<Deepy>doesn't vesa support 1280x800?
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13:22<Deepy>AAAND WLAN WORKS :D
13:22<Deepy>woo!
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13:30<panagos>for soe reason, i have mounted a samba folder twice on the same mount point! and now i cannot unmount it! can somebody please help me?
13:31<panagos>* from some reason
13:31<panagos>* for some reason
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13:31<witte>panagos: what is the error
13:31<panagos>umount: it seems /home/panagos/mnt/auth is mounted multiple times
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13:32<witte>panagos: try to use force
13:32<witte>panagos: umount -f /home/panagos/mnt/auth
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13:33<panagos># umount -f auth
13:33<panagos>This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems.
13:33<panagos>This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems.
13:33<panagos>This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems.
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13:33<witte>panagos: don't paste here
13:33<panagos>ooooooops
13:34<panagos>well, you got that anyways :P
13:36<witte>which version of smbfs do you have?
13:36<witte>panagos: dpkg -l |grep smbfs
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13:38<witte>http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/f526b0ac293e0da8
13:38<panagos>ii smbfs 3.0.28-1 mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for
13:38<panagos>witte: ^^
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13:38<witte>panagos: that is lenny or sid?
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13:39<witte>panagos: and not the latest version (i have 3.0.28-2 on lenny)
13:39<but>alors c koi ça?
13:39<witte>!fr
13:39<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net.
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13:39<witte>panagos: sorry, have to go, good luck with your problem
13:40<panagos>i have 3.0.28-1 (testing)
13:40<panagos>oh well...
13:40<panagos>thanks!
13:40<panagos>anyway
13:40<witte>panagos: lenny == testing
13:40<witte>so you could update
13:40<witte>and see if that works better
13:40<witte>cu
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14:01<but>ou je suis là???
14:02<but>je cherche des salons en français
14:02<skule>oui par tout
14:03<but>un truc pour raconter des conneries
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14:03<but>ici ça à l'air trop serieux
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14:26<panagos>help! i just accidentally deleted some files from an ext3 partition! is there a way to bring them back?
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14:27<blarson>panagos: use your backups.
14:28<panagos>don't have any
14:28<panagos>:(
14:28<noflash>shame on you
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14:30<panagos>anyway, backups couldn't help me here... the files were just some hours old
14:30<ikeX>There are just two kinds of people - those who make backups, and those who will.
14:30<ikeX>Anyway - hello everyone. I'm just curious - is DWN active at all?
14:32<streuner>no
14:33<Guest3492>http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec =>recovery
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14:35<Guest3492>i receive this mesg. on boot:
14:35<Guest3492>cnxthsf_OsEventWaitTime(c235aa80/HDA CodecUnsolicitedmessage, 40): returning OSEVENT_WAIT_TIMEOUT
14:35<Guest3492>has someone an idea how can i resolv this, i've installed the linuxant hsf modem driver
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14:55<panagos>for some reason i have one remote samba folder mounted twice under the same local mount dir. now i can't unmount it! anyone help?
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15:05<panagos>for some reason i have one remote samba folder mounted twice under the same local mount dir. now i can't unmount it! anyone help?
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15:16<bremner>!tell panagos about repeat
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15:19<GhostlyDeath>panagos: lsof /mounted/folder
15:20<panagos>for some reason i have one remote samba folder mounted twice under the same local mount dir. now i can't unmount it! umount -f as root will also not work. anyone help?
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15:20<panagos>GhostlyDeath: it prints nothing
15:21<GhostlyDeath>panagos: then unmount it
15:21<panagos>the weird thing is, the dir also shows up as empty, while i know it isn't
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15:21<panagos>GhostlyDeath: umount just won't work
15:21<GhostlyDeath>panagos: is it mounted?
15:21<panagos>i get the message "This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems."
15:21<panagos>yes it is
15:21<panagos>and the fs type IS cifs!
15:21<GhostlyDeath>panagos: type in "mount" is it listed there?
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15:22<panagos>twice as the last entry
15:22<panagos>two identical lines
15:22<panagos>/blabla/bla/ on /bla/bla type cifs (rw,mand,nosuid,nodev,user=panagos)
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15:23<GhostlyDeath>panagos: lsof blabla
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15:23<GhostlyDeath>i mean /blabla/bla
15:23<panagos>***** //blabla/bla/ on /bla/bla type cifs (rw,mand,nosuid,nodev,user=panagos)
15:23<panagos>oops!
15:24<panagos>the first is the remote share
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15:24<panagos>/host/dir
15:24<panagos>GhostlyDeath: lsof prints nothing
15:24<panagos>and a status of 1
15:25<GhostlyDeath>panagos: a restart should fix the problem
15:25<panagos>GhostlyDeath: that's exactly what i'm trying to avoid! :D
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15:27<GhostlyDeath>panagos: how'
15:27<GhostlyDeath>d you mount it twice anyway?
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15:27<panagos>i don't know!
15:27<panagos>but i think what happeded was:
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15:28<panagos>i first mounted it via smbmount, then (after some hours) used konqueror to go to smb://host/dir, seems it got mixed up
15:29<GhostlyDeath>try smbumount?
15:29<GhostlyDeath>smbumount -f to force it
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15:30<GhostlyDeath>panagos: before you do taht
15:30<GhostlyDeath>panagos: back up anything open on there
15:30<panagos>it prints "This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems."
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15:30<panagos>GhostlyDeath: the mount point appears as empty!
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15:37<valdyn>GhostlyDeath: you are supposed to use cifs. not smb
15:37<valdyn>GhostlyDeath: you are supposed to use cifs. not smbfs
15:37<GhostlyDeath>valdyn: why me?
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15:38<valdyn>GhostlyDeath: you like almost everyone using smbfs
15:38<GhostlyDeath>valdyn: I dont even use samba
15:38<valdyn>GhostlyDeath: ops
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15:42<valdyn>panagos: you tried both, umount //remote/share and umount /mountpoint ?
15:42<panagos>hmmmmmm, good idea
15:42<valdyn>panagos: the output of "mount" can be wrong, you want to check /proc/mounts
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15:43<pumpkin0>while we are at it: what do i have to change if cifs display all special chars as "?" on the client? (and no, i cannot reconfigure the server)
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15:43<valdyn>pumpkin0: see manpage, iocharset
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15:44<pumpkin0>valdyn: thanks. Any recommanded set for germany ?
15:44<valdyn>pumpkin0: iso8859-15 maybe
15:44<valdyn>pumpkin0: i dont know what windows uses
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15:44<mc>cp2812 :P
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15:45<pumpkin0>valdyn: it is a netapp-server. I will try it next monday, thanks.
15:45<mc>oh
15:45<mc>then set it to the codepage that the netapp has set
15:45<mc>if you dont know, ask the one who configured cifs, he should know
15:45<mc>if it was a clued technician of netapp, he probably set it to utf8
15:45<themill>heh
15:46<valdyn>im sure you can figure it out yourself too
15:46<panagos>valdyn: well, seems you've got a point! //host/dir isn't listed in /proc/mounts
15:46<pumpkin0>mc: i could open a problem ticket and have a (probably wrong) answer in about 6 months...
15:46<mc>pumpkin0: germany? computacenta? :>
15:46<valdyn>panagos: cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
15:46<pumpkin0>mc: but just brute-force testing it with a script is OK.
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15:46<valdyn>panagos: maybe that would break fuse
15:47<valdyn>panagos: or any user space fs, i dont know, if you are not using any userspace fs, go ahead
15:47<panagos>valdyn: if i first unmount any other fuse fs, am i ok?
15:47<valdyn>panagos: yea
15:48<panagos>valdyn: so cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab means to "sync" mount's view of the mounted filessytems? or is it a hack?
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15:49<valdyn>mc: if it was utf-8 then he wouldnt see broken characters, sais the manpage
15:49<mc>valdyn: in that case i know that it wasnt us who set it up :>
15:49<valdyn>panagos: mtab is a hack in itself, i would say
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15:50<panagos>LOL
15:50<Supaplex>panagos: cd /etc/ ; ln -sf /proc/mounts mtab
15:50<valdyn>panagos: mtab lists all filesystems that your system is aware of
15:50<valdyn>panagos: /proc/mounts lists all fs your kernel is aware of
15:51<valdyn>panagos: those 2 should be synced unless you use a fs that the kernel is not responsible for
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15:51<panagos>valdyn: ok, what is the difference between kernel and system here?
15:51<valdyn>panagos: userspace, fuse
15:51<panagos>aha
15:51<valdyn>panagos: whole system = kernelspace + userspace
15:51<hax_>i added a shell script to /etc/cron.hourly/, but it never runs... any idea what i'm missing?
15:52<valdyn>hax_: the +x flag?
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15:52<mc>a correct interpreter, file attr +x, cron.hourly in /etc/crontab, ...
15:52<panagos>so if i mount something with fuse and delete its entry in /etc/mtab, is there no other way to know whether/where it is mounted?
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15:53<valdyn>panagos: i dont know how exactly this is dealth with
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15:53<hax_>valdyn: nope, got that, it's owned by root:root and a+x
15:53<valdyn>panagos: the kernel still needs to know that a fs is there, just not which fuse-based thing
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15:54<hax_>mc: hourly is in the crontab, and the script runs if i do /etc/cron.hourly/foo.sh
15:54<mc>hax: a dash in the filename?
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15:54<valdyn>panagos: kernel: fs is there, implementation delegated to some userspace programs
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15:55<hax_>mc: yeah, there is a dash in the file name... 'security-updates.sh'
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15:56<mc>hax: remove it.
15:56<mc>run-parts doesnt like it
15:56<hax_>mc: done... but why?
15:56<hax_>wow
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15:56<mc>hax: afair its documented in run-parts, but i learned that lesson the hard way, too :>
15:56<hax_>i'm glad i asked, i never would have thought of that
15:56<valdyn>bug in the cron-hourly script?
15:56<Requiem>hurray for windows botnets it seems
15:57<mc>not a bug, a documented feature *whistle*
15:57<valdyn>right.
15:57<mc>:>
15:57<panagos>o_O_o_O_o_O_o_O_o
15:57<valdyn>panagos: system ok now?
15:58<valdyn>panagos: i just thought of that, in a chroot your /proc/mounts and mtab will rightfully not be in sync
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15:58<panagos>valdyn: yeah, i'll all right
15:58<panagos>thanks!
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16:02<panagos>seems the problem was caused by konqueror's smb:// when the same share was also mounted via smbmount
16:02<Supaplex>valdyn: have you tried it?
16:03<panagos>(hope in kde4 it's better unified)
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16:03<valdyn>Supaplex: tried what?
16:04<valdyn>Supaplex: the ln -s ?
16:04<Supaplex>20:57 < valdyn> panagos: i just thought of that, in a chroot your /proc/mounts and mtab will rightfully not be in sync
16:04<valdyn>Supaplex: yes
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16:06<Supaplex>ime, mounting a new proc in a chroot, adjusts /proc/mounts accordingly in that chroot - does it not for you?
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16:07<valdyn>Supaplex: that still would leave a broken mtab
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16:07<Supaplex>if the mtab is symlinked?
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16:07<valdyn>Supaplex: let me see first.
16:08<valdyn>Supaplex: not much use guessing, when i can try right here
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16:08<valdyn>Supaplex: /proc/mounts gets not adjusted to the chroot.
16:08<Supaplex>okay. I was wondering what I missed. I filed a bugreport on this years ago.
16:08<brianw>ok, this is an interesting one. kernel-image-2.6.18-5: TCP and UDP port 53 is DNAT to 192.168.2.5
16:08<valdyn>Supaplex: i doubt its a bug
16:09<brianw>in the standard iptables table, UDP is treated as INPUT and tcp is treated as FORWARD.
16:09<brianw>anyone seem this phenomenon before?
16:09<mc>??!
16:10<valdyn>brianw: umm no, that's not in the "standard iptables table"
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16:10<brianw>valdyn fine, defalt iptables table set.
16:11<brianw>the issue is that the iptables module is treating udp and tcp differently after PREROUTE processing.
16:11<brianw>udp ends up in the FORWARD table and tcp ends up in the INPUT table.
16:11<Supaplex>valdyn: here, most all of my previous filesystems in /proc/mounts do not reappear in the chroot's /proc/mounts
16:11<brianw>both have PREROUTE rules of -j DNAT --to 192.168.2.5
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16:12<valdyn>Supaplex: i dont get how that is impossible
16:12<mc>brianw: that doesnt make sense and i wouldnt believe it either.
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16:13<Supaplex>valdyn: I thought this is a better way for it to work. right?
16:13<grummund>where does rpc.statd get run from?
16:13<brianw>mc, well i'm seeing it happening right now.
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16:14<Guest3504>ok
16:14<Guest3504>xD
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16:14<valdyn>Supaplex: i mean, i dont understand how you can have a different /proc/mounts behaviour than I do
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16:15<valdyn>Supaplex: except that I see something ioctl32(mount:23597): Unknown cmd fd(3) cmd(801c0204){t:02;sz:28} arg(ffcebb1c) on /proc in my log
16:15<Supaplex>valdyn: I'm using a stock debian etch kernel
16:15<valdyn>Supaplex: i only use chroot to use i386 on amd64, maybe that is why
16:16<valdyn>Supaplex: and that unknown ioctl32 is the reason
16:16<Supaplex>humm.. maybe.
16:16<Supaplex>if so, this is the odd corner case we didn't have any way to know of.
16:16<brianw>this is really really wacked. 8-(
16:17<mc>brianw: well, i guess you can discuss that with monsieur welt.
16:17<mc>e
16:17<brianw>lemme guess, not on irc. :)
16:17<Supaplex>brianw: why forward when you could run dnsmasq (even if it's dns only)
16:17<mc>well, i see him on ircnet right now
16:18<Supaplex>sure, it might be a hack, but one /etc/hosts to dist for all local machines is nnniiiIIIiiiice
16:18<mc>ah, no. didnt read correctly.
16:18<mc>nah, guess he dropped irc
16:18<brianw>Suppa cause this is a firewall, not a server.
16:19<brianw>I have servers for doing the real work.
16:19<brianw>and having a firewall that does what it's supposed to is really nice. *grin*
16:19<fuzzwuzz>when i play my screen turns dark from time to time.....any ideas?
16:19<brianw>I'm runnign my dns server on the firewall temporarilly while I figure this mess out. ;-P
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16:19<brianw>I suspect it's a kenel bug.
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16:21<hax_>mc: hmm, the thing still doesn't seem to run... is there some way i can force a cron-daily to run right now?
16:21<hax_>mc: so i can test it more than once an hour, i mean
16:21<hax_>heh
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16:22<mc>hax: well, execute the command in /etc/crontab?
16:22<mc>i.e. run-parts /etc/cron.hourly/ or so
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16:25<hax_>mc: that doesn't seem to do much of anything
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16:31<hax_>mc: alright, i don't get it... my script is there, run-parts does nothing
16:31<bremner>hax_ : run-parts --verbose ?
16:31<hax_>bremner: still nothing
16:32<hax_>`g hixie.ch xhtml
16:32<hax_>err, wrong window
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16:33<mc>hax: beats me. try naming the script alphanumerically only?
16:33<hax_>mc: it's not just called supdate.sh, and it still doesn't seem to do anything
16:33<hax_>in the crontab, this is the line it has:
16:33<mc>"supdate"
16:34<hax_>17 * * * * root cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
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16:34<hax_>succes!
16:34<hax_>*success!
16:34<hax_>mc: that's so weird
16:34<hax_>ok now, it works
16:34<hax_>heh
16:34<mc>hax: the dot?
16:34<hax_>the dot caused the problem
16:34<hax_>i was just naming it like i would any other shell script
16:34<hax_>heh
16:34<mc>read the first three sections of `man run-parts`
16:35<hax_>how odd
16:35<mc> dont ask me about that --lsb option though.
16:36<mc>:-P
16:36<mc>if you want it safe, restrict your self to [a-zA-Z] :)
16:37<hax_>got it
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16:46<hans>hi, was wondering if someone can help with an .htaccess rule
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16:46<hans>ive got a site, where i want all traffic to have a 301 redirect excepth for one very particular path
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16:53<bernardo>is there a feature in debian that saves all your configuration (like settings, drivers, preferences, etc) when you need to make a system reinstall?
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16:55<ladainian>hi. to connect to my dhcp server i type #dhclient. is there any faster way to get an ip? windows does it way quicker
16:55<ladainian>!bitchx
16:55<dpkg>well, bitchx is a fine irc-client build on epic and ircII. as a debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible, or not as good as irssi, and needs less moronic /quit messages, or if you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, "/ignore -regexp -pattern BX QUITS"
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16:56<bremner>bernardo: dpkg --get-selections answers part of your question, but not all
16:56<bernardo>bremner: what part?
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16:57<bremner>bernardo: saves what packages are installed
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16:58<bernardo>bremner: ohh... but my biggest problem is the drivers and the configs...
16:58<bremner>bernardo: what do you mean drivers?
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16:58<bernardo>bremner: like my wireless lan driver....
16:59<adii>hello : i've got some problems with monitor mode on my wifi , using madwifi drivers
16:59<adii>it looks like i can't associate with an access point
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16:59<streuner>check out
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16:59<bremner>bernardo: Are compiling a kernel module or something?
16:59<deepy>if my bkhive segmentation faults, what could be wrong?
17:00<deepy>I shouldn't be out of swap or ram
17:00<streuner>check out #madwifi channel (FN) or there ML
17:00<bernardo>bremner: yeah...
17:01<bremner>bernardo: well, you should use checkinstall to install it as a debian package
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17:02<bremner>bernardo: there is some software for managing "profiles", typically for networking, but it is pretty general; I can't remember the name now
17:02<adii>alright i'll
17:02<bremner>bernardo: maybe this can help keep track of /etc
17:02<adii>what do you mean by FN or ML :p
17:02<deepy>freenode?
17:02<bernardo>bremner: I will take a look...thanks
17:02<adii>oh okay
17:03<streuner>ML=mailing-list
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17:08<bremner>bernardo: switchconf was the thing I was thinking of.
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17:31<hax_>heh, one small problem with my cron script... it's emailing the output every time it runs... how can i control that?
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18:03<AlteKiet>How can I tell if bind got an answer from its cache or from its forwarders?
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18:15<norbert_>hi, I'm looking for the apt package with the C command's man pages
18:17<norbert_>build-essential c-cpp-reference never mind *hits himself*
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18:17<toor>libstdc++6-4.1-doc
18:17<toor>maybe...
18:17<norbert_>manpages-dev even
18:18<toor>libstdc++5-3.3-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)
18:18<toor>libstdc++6-4.1-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)
18:18<toor>libstdc++6-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)
18:18<dkr>hax_: If MAILTO is defined but empty (MAILTO=""), no mail will be sent.
18:19<dkr>hax_: a better idea is to only have your script generate output if there is an error, so you are notified if that happens
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18:24<Mornieniel> /msg iSLiFECORP invite of6wm14r6q5xvzz5
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18:27<gremlin>eck dont know if anyone can help
18:27<gremlin>someone else on the system deleted /var/cache
18:28<gremlin>and im not sure on how to get it back
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18:29<norbert_>gremlin: you'll probably want to find out what is usually in there and then reinstall those things
18:30<norbert_>gremlin: there's not too much in mine
18:30<gremlin>apt =/
18:30<gremlin>i cant use apt because it had its cache stuff in there
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18:30<norbert_>create a directory "apt"
18:30<norbert_>in /var/cache
18:30<gremlin>done that already
18:30<norbert_>and "archives" in "apt"
18:31<gremlin>done
18:31<norbert_>you also need two .bin files
18:31<norbert_>pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bi
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18:31<gremlin>just create them empty?
18:31<gremlin>or..
18:32<norbert_>no, you should regenerate them
18:32<gremlin>how do i do that?
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18:32<norbert_>that is a good question
18:33<gremlin>haha
18:33<norbert_>rerun apt-get update, I think
18:34<gremlin>done
18:34<gremlin>went pretty quick =/
18:35<norbert_>so, does apt work? try to install something
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18:35<gremlin>yeah
18:35<gremlin>it works now
18:35<gremlin>uuhhmm
18:35<hax_>dkr: sneaky ... looks like i just 2>/dev/null for that?
18:35<joshrulez2>how do i upload a folder from my computer to debian server?
18:35<norbert_>joshrulez2: your windows machine? try pscp (took for the putty website via Google)
18:36<joshrulez2>yea windows machine, ok
18:36<gremlin>cool it works
18:36<norbert_>joshrulez2: or you could apt-get install an ftp server on your linux machine
18:36<joshrulez2>hmm ye i'll probably do that
18:36<dkr>hax_: well, that would discard stderr. you'd still be mailed any standard output
18:36<gremlin>debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
18:37<hax_>dkr: hmm, i'm okay with that... is there some way i can see if a string of foo&&bar&&baz commands in bash has completed successfully? and print an error if it wasn't?
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18:37<dkr>hax_: foo && bar && echo success || echo failure
18:37<norbert_>gremlin: do you have a debconf directory in /var/cache ?
18:38<gremlin>just created it
18:38<gremlin>hmm
18:38<hax_>dkr: ty :)
18:38<gremlin>my main issue at the moment is mysql
18:38<gremlin>its kinda dead
18:39<norbert_>if your emptied out /var/cache then that's your main problem, trust me ;-)
18:39<twb>Where does `make-kpkg build
18:39<twb>Where does `make-kpkg build' put my .debs?
18:39<gremlin>ergh
18:39<gremlin>i cant re-install it
18:39<gremlin>either
18:39<norbert_>download the debconf deb package from debian.org
18:39<norbert_>then run: dpkg -i <package.deb>
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18:40<norbert_>gremlin: are you on stable?
18:40<gremlin>yeah
18:40<gremlin>ok downloaded
18:40<norbert_>http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debconf/debconf_1.5.11etch1_all.deb
18:40<gremlin>yep
18:40<norbert_>ah, you already have it
18:40<gremlin>yeah haha
18:41<norbert_>then run: # dpkg -i debconf_1.5.11etch1_all.deb
18:41<gremlin>done
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18:42<norbert_>check if the files are back in /var/cache/debconf/
18:42<joshrulez2>how can i get root privelges for ftp on debian?
18:42<gremlin>yep
18:42<gremlin>they're there
18:42<norbert_>good
18:42<norbert_>try to run apt again
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18:43<norbert_>joshrulez2: which ftp deamon did you install?
18:43<gremlin>done
18:43<joshrulez2>ftpd
18:43<gsimmons>twb: It's stated in make-kpkg(1), just after the first command execution example.
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18:44<norbert_>joshrulez2: one moment
18:44<joshrulez2>k thanks
18:44<twb>gsimmons: thanks
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18:44<Spiritwolf>Evening gents. Debian/Linux noob here. I've got the OS all installed, but I can't connect to the net. Googled it up, my mobo is ASUS P5L-VM 1394 - looked like a few people had the same issue.
18:44<norbert_>joshrulez2: by editing /etc/ftpusers and removing the line that says "root", but I advice you against that
18:44<Spiritwolf>I was eventually directed to download this at|1 tar file. Just don't know how to install the darn thing!
18:45<joshrulez2>lol ok so is that the only way?
18:45<twb>gsimmons: hmm, there aren't any .debs there, but make-kpkg didn't seem to exit with an error...
18:46<norbert_>joshrulez2: well, you could use ftp as a regular user and later move the files from the user to the /root/ dir
18:46<gsimmons>!atl1
18:46<dpkg>atl1 is, like, a driver for the Attansic L1 gigabit ethernet chipset, found in several Asus motherboards. Driver present in mainline kernels 2.6.21 and later ("modprobe atl1"). For kernels older than 2.6.21, use of the vendor driver is recommended. See http://atl1.sf.net for known bugs/problems and the vendor driver.
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18:46<norbert_>joshrulez2: it's not usually done to use the root account for these things
18:46<joshrulez2>i have sudo users set up
18:46<joshrulez2>ok
18:46<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: You can alternatively upgrade to a more recent kernel (if you're using Etch), such as the 2.6.22 backport images.
18:47<norbert_>joshrulez2: you could download http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/pscp.exe
18:47<norbert_>joshrulez2: and then run: c:\yourdir\> pscp.exe -r directoryyouwanttransfered root@ipaddress:~
18:47<gremlin>sigh
18:47<joshrulez2>ok cheers
18:48<norbert_>gremlin: so ehm, everything is working, or?
18:48<gremlin>need to fix mysql
18:48<gremlin>D:
18:48<norbert_>what's wrong with mysql, please be specific
18:49<gremlin>it doesnt start
18:49<gremlin>anymore
18:49<Spiritwolf>gsimmons: How would I go about doing that? Any download links? I can transfer stuff over via my USB drive.
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18:49<norbert_>gremlin: try to run this and tell me the output # tail -f /var/log/mysql.err
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18:51<gremlin>nothing happened =/
18:51<gsimmons>!tell Spiritwolf -about backports.org
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18:51<norbert_>gremlin: the same for /var/log/mysql.log
18:51<kurumin>help
18:51<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: For the atl1 vendor driver, install the 'build-essential' package, extract the archive and follow any build instructions provided (README, INSTALL, etc).
18:51<kurumin>help
18:51<kurumin>ok
18:51<kurumin>brazil
18:52<gremlin>still nothing
18:52<kurumin>ok
18:52<gremlin># mysqld_safe
18:52<gremlin>Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql
18:52<gremlin>mysqld_safe[4933]: started
18:52<gremlin>STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
18:52<gremlin>mysqld_safe[4938]: ended
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18:52<gremlin>oops :D
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18:52<kurumin>tchau
18:52<norbert_>gremlin: was that the output from the mysql.log?
18:53<gremlin>nothing =/
18:53<norbert_>so, what did you paste from just now?
18:53<gremlin>output from mysqld_safe
18:53<norbert_>ok
18:53<kurumin>brazil eu não falo inglês. ok
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18:54<norbert_>gremlin: did mysql work before?
18:54<gremlin>yeah it used to
18:54<kurumin>no
18:54<kurumin>brasil eu
18:54<Spiritwolf>gsimmons: The build-essential package is installed, I worked out it was needed last night too. The extracted driver controller contains a bunch of files (Make file, at|1h, etc). and a readme that says "To build and install the driver, just type... sudo make install"
18:54<kurumin>yes
18:55<norbert_>gremlin: # /etc/init.d/mysql force-reload
18:55<norbert_>gremlin: what is the output?
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18:55<gremlin>erm, PM?
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18:56<gremlin>its in the P
18:56<gremlin>PM*
18:56<gremlin>if you can see it
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18:59<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: And, have you followed the README? Did you compile the driver and install it to your system? Have you loaded the atl1 module?
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19:02<Spiritwolf>I presumed I have to bring up the termenal and type sudo make install? Do I have to have any particualar file selected when I type it? Or do I direct the termenal to the driver folder? All this manual coding is beyond me at the moment :P
19:04<Spiritwolf>*** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
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19:05<Moose>Hey, I need help. How do I login to my registered nickname? What's the command?
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19:09<dkr> /msg nickserv identify password
19:09<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: From a terminal, you'd want to change to the directory containing your archive, then "cd l1-linux-v1.2.40.2/src" and run "make". Provided there are no build errors, become root ("su"), run "make install" and "modprobe atl1".
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19:12<gsimmons>twb: I think the build target only compiles the kernel image. You'd probably want to use one of the other targets, such as kernel_image.
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19:15<K|NgGh0sT>Hello, I'm having slow connects to FTP/SSH/etc.. and I think it may be a DNS issue. The thing is I use a typical home router and the DNS on there is fine, how can I check if this is the case?
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19:17<twb>gsimmons: yup, I just worked that out
19:17<twb>Now I get dpkg-deb (subprocess): data: internal gzip error: read(4096) != write(0): No space left on device
19:17<twb>:-)
19:17<gsimmons>:)
19:17<twb>*:-(
19:17<twb>You'd think 4GB would be a big enough disk for the OS and the kernel .os
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19:23<blarson>I used to think 300mb was a big hard drive. Now 1gb isn't enough ram...
19:24<avtobiff>:-)
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19:25<SixT6>Ram belov 4GB is low, well known fact
19:26<dkr>I had a 20MB hardrive when I was a kid. You had to explicitly "park" the drive before shutting down the system. :) and my trs-80 had 4KB of RAM.
19:26<Spiritwolf>Thanks for your patience gsimmons. But I'm still failing. I've got at|1-2.0.7-linux-2.6.20 in /home/spiritwolf - the root terminal brings up "debian:/home/spiritwolf#" by default.
19:28<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: That doesn't look like the vendor driver, but one of the experimental drivers (prior to being included in mainline). What kernel are you currently using? (uname -r)
19:29<Spiritwolf>2.6.18-5-686
19:30<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: You're using the wrong driver. Use the vendor driver (1.2.40.2) from <http://atl1.sf.net>.
19:32<K|NgGh0sT>argh
19:32<K|NgGh0sT>stupid dns
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19:35<bahamat>I need help debugging bind, it looks like it's configured perfectly, except everything returns NXDOMAIN
19:35<K|NgGh0sT>When I type host 192.168.0.2 I get Host 2.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) does this mean I do have a dns issue?
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19:38<petemc>host 192.168.0.2 will try to do a reverse lookup, do you have ptr records set up?
19:43<joshrulez2>i screwed up a virtual host now everytime i restart apache2 it says no such file or directory and fails, how do i fix?
19:43<Maulkin>joshrulez2: exact error message?
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19:46<joshrulez2>are you getting the pm
19:46<joshrulez2>?
19:47<Maulkin>Have you looked at the topic?
19:47<Maulkin>No. I don't receive PMs from #debian
19:49<joshrulez2>http://pastebin.com/m4b1cb9cc
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19:50<Maulkin>Well, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/www.pdcplanet.com doesn't exist
19:50<Maulkin>ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/www.pdcplanet.com:
19:52<joshrulez2>it still wont restart
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19:55<Spiritwolf>gsimmons: The ftp for that 1.2.40.2 file must be down :<
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20:00<Spiritwolf>Oh, there was some linux drivers on the CD ><
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20:19<creeed>hello, I should export comfigurations to connect from a proxy, I wrote some line too in /etc/profile to do this, I removed the line from /etc/profile but apt-get still use the proxy-configuration!! I want now just to desactive the proxy-configuration and go back to direct internet connection
20:20<creeed>can someone help please?
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20:27<Spiritwolf>gsimmons: I got the right driver finally. Still getting *** linux kernel source not found
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20:41<sun>hi anyone know where to get libdvdcss2? i tried adding marriat.fr to sources.list but somethings wrong
20:42<gsimmons>Spiritwolf: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
20:43<RIVE>sun, the repos for marrillant are now debian-multimedia
20:43<Spiritwolf>installing now
20:44<Spiritwolf>gsimmons: looks like thats done, awaiting command!
20:45<Spiritwolf>HUZZAH, working
20:45<sun>rive could you please let me know the line to put in sources.list ?
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20:49<Spiritwolf>gsimmons. Make Install worked on the driver /src
20:49<Spiritwolf>now what? :P
20:49<xseries>hi
20:49<RIVE>sun, wich versión of Debian, Etch, lenny or Sid?
20:49<xseries>I have a request! If you are running wireless on debian, and it worked out of the box, please tell me what nic you bought
20:51<sun>rive lenny though i get some stuff from sid.
20:51<sun>what does {a} mean when aptitude lists the packages its going to upgrade ie libamrnb3{a}?
20:52<Spiritwolf>think I'm on the right track, just need to setup network settings.
20:52<RIVE>sun add: deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
20:54<RIVE>But first you have to add the gpg for that repo: apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
20:54<RIVE>Check http://debian-multimedia.org/ if you have a problem, the instructions are very clear.
20:56<xseries>1wifi
20:56<xseries>!wifi
20:56<dpkg>from memory, wifi is a silly name for 802.11b <wireless> networking.
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20:58<RIVE>xseries: i use Etch in a old Toshiba 2100cds with a Orinoco Silver and lenny in a Dell 1520 with intel 3945 802.11a/g
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20:59<Spiritwolf>gsimmons. HIGH FIVE! I'm on the internet.
20:59<xseries>i wanna buy one from the computer store near my house, but I can't find one that is in hp's hardware compatible list, they have dlink and linksys, but they aren't supported it seems
20:59<Spiritwolf>Thank you very very much.
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21:00<Spiritwolf>Better make myself a cup of tea and start reading up on termenal commands.
21:00<Spiritwolf>SUDO MAKE ME A CUP OF TEA
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21:02<RIVE>xseries: don't know the hardware compatibility list of Debian.
21:02<xseries>RIVE, thanks anyways
21:02<RIVE>Ok.
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21:03<klan-chuki-dialo>hola
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21:05<bernardo>what is isolinux?
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21:08<bernardo>?
21:08<RIVE>!isolinux
21:08<Knorrie>!isolinux
21:08<Knorrie>:)
21:09<bernardo>so....
21:09<Tarcas>Linux that runs from a CD, from the sound of it.
21:09<Knorrie>http://www.google.com/search?q=isolinux
21:09<Knorrie>jfgi
21:09<Tarcas>I've always heard them called live CDs though
21:09<Tarcas>!live cd
21:09<dpkg>somebody said livecd was an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/ or http://live.debian.net/ or #debian-live on oftc
21:11<RIVE>bernardo, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolinux
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21:12<bernardo>can anyone help me with this? http://rafb.net/p/JqTQOX25.html
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21:16<sun>rive thanks! do you know any software for ripping a dvd onto the hd?
21:16<xseries>sun, try dd
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21:16<RIVE>DVD::rip
21:17<RIVE>Is in the debian-multimedia repo.
21:17<RIVE>Is the one I use sun.
21:17<xseries>I think live cd's will kill you cdrom
21:18<xseries>unless you only use you computer for one hour
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21:20<bernardo>can anyone help me with this? its an error with the mkcdrec application http://rafb.net/p/JqTQOX25.html
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21:25<xseries>before on debian, ps showed mozilla-bin, and now in my new install, it shows firefox-bin, is it different versions, if so, how do I switch to mozilla-bin version
21:26<sun>ok i got dvdrip, is there any lossless codec like flac for video? (thanks for all the guidance so far btw)
21:26<bernardo>when you do "apt-get source somepackage" where is the source downloaded to?
21:27<RIVE>sun: i just use with the defualt options to make .avi's from DVD's, don't know what are yhou asking.
21:27<RIVE>Sorry for my bad english.
21:27<gsimmons>bernardo: The present working directory.
21:28<bernardo>gsimmons: ohhh...thankx
21:28<sun>rive is the video quality degraded for compression? or is the video an exact duplicate of the input dvd?
21:30<RIVE>Theres options for that, the defualts let you choose the size of the rip dependin of the media, example... one cd, two cd's, one DVD if you makeit manually you have more control.
21:32<sun>rive ok thanks a lot. best.
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21:36<xseries>I don't have sound from flash
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21:54<mxldr>how do i get lenny to watch DVD's
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21:55<mxldr>i just want to watch DVD's. I don't care about free-speachsoftware or the manatees or anything
21:55<mxldr>!dvd
21:55<dpkg>dvd is probably use <xine> (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), <vlc> or <ogle> (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about <decss>, or ask me about <libdvdcss>, or to burn a DVD check <wodim> or <growisofs>. see <dvd playback troubleshooting>
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21:55<mxldr>!decss
21:55<dpkg>decss is probably PURE GOOD!!!, or ask me about livid, or now illegal in the US, just like rom sites (laugh), or see http://www.a-es2.uu.nl/~bas/DeCSS/decss.html. Dave Touretzky (CMU CS prof) has a gallery of descramblers at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/index.html Not to be confused with <libdvdcss>.
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21:55<mxldr>!libdvdcss
21:55<dpkg>methinks libdvdcss is NOT in Debian - USA residents who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. For filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian and ask about <marillat> or <debian-unofficial>
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21:56<RIVE>mxldr: Did you hace debian-multimedia in your repositories?
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22:58<rabbitliner>hi
22:59<rabbitliner>i'm trying to get my wacom working
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23:01<rabbitliner>but it's proving difficult.
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23:06<HennaX>rabbitliner: wireless networking?
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23:07<HennaX>rabbitliner: does this link help you by chance: http://math.bu.edu/people/kayeats/computers/tc1100.html
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23:13<TBBle>Is there a particular trick to getting Etch installed on an >2TB disk? Specifically, it partitions using gpt rather than msdos disklabelling, but grub in Etch can't do that, and apparently grub2 was dropped from Etch? Before I reinstall, will LILO work? Or is there some other magic that Google is keeping from me?
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23:14<TBBle>"it" here is Etch's d-i... I'm using kmuto's backported 2.6.22 kernel install CD, for disk driver support.
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23:27<TBBle>Hmm. For the record, and with better googling, it looks like lilo will work, as long as I'm not using cryptsetup.
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23:49<Aleric>Hmm... I thought that was you, cause the site says "fence I build to keep Toby in the yard", and toby must be that dog in the pictures.. and the dog seemed to be close with one woman, and I thought that that guy was her partner
23:49<Aleric>:)
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23:52<NoRC>hey
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23:52<NoRC>Im having problems getting a usb camera device to work, can anyone point me in the right direction? Its a Digitech
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23:53<Snardman>Hello, I seem to be having a problem installing debian onto my computer. But the install is hanging at the CD-ROM detection stage (86%) while 'Loading Module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA DISK'. Ive been looking around on the net, but I haven't found anything that has worked yet. I'm using the debian-40r2-i386-netinst.iso dated 03-Jan-2008 01:45. I'm pretty much at a loss as to what to do at this point, so any help from anyone would be much appreciated.
23:54<Nemoder>NoRC: http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
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23:57<chump_>do i have to open the up debian's firewall to allow torrents?
23:57<NoRC>i should have mentioned usb web camera / video capture device
23:57<NoRC>still getting used to this asus eeepc
23:57<NoRC>tiny keyboard
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23:59<NoRC>chipset is SAA7113H
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