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#debian IRC Logs for 2008-02-16

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00:00<Wi_Fi>you in the wrong channel turd
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00:06<Corrine>whats a good way to test if my graphics acceleration is working now?
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00:08<mike1980>Can anyone please hlp I am getting This volume box on kde start up and can't close it or anything? Dose anyone no what program this is from? here a scree shot of the "Volume" box http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7083/screenshot1ar9.png
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00:10<akuma_s>Hi...
00:11<akuma_s>Good night...
00:11<mike1980>nighty night
00:11<mike1980>Can anyone please help I am getting This volume box on kde start up and can't close it or anything? Dose anyone no what program this is from? here a screen shot of the "Volume" box http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7083/screenshot1ar9.png
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00:12<akuma_s>Somebody can tell me how can I configure the number of lines in text mode? I want more lines of text ;)
00:15<mike1980>This is drving me nuto
00:17<akuma_s>mike, check your list process.. seems like a mp3 player or something...
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00:18<mike1980>akuma_sL: ok thanks I will do
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00:33<akuma_s>Aha! framebuffer---
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00:40<Steven-M>blarson: are you still there :)
00:40<Steven-M>?
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01:00<Steven-M>who's good at the /etc/network/interfaces file?
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01:09<Steven-M>what does the line up flush-mail do in the /etc/network/interfaces
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01:11<akuma_s>Rebooting...
01:11<akuma_s>TimeClockFreq will do the trick...
01:12<akuma_s>Sorry, TextClockFreq...
01:12<akuma_s>:P
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01:16<gsimmons>Steven-M: It executes the flush-mail command after the interface is brought up (to illustrate use of the 'up' iface option). There's no flush-mail example provided within 'ifupdown'. I'd imagine this would be a user-supplied script to call the relevant MTA function ("sendmail -q", "postfix -f", etc).
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01:23<string>I have libdvdread3 and every dvd I own works fine but this one is giving me an error: The source seems encrypted, and canot be read.
01:23<string>"Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
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01:25<RIVE>I have the same problem with the "Gone with the wind" DVD, doen't play, in every player the moust of it if a green window.
01:25<string>RIVE: that sucks, is it some kind of new-school proprietary encryption?
01:26<string>is this gonna be a widespread problem?
01:27<alaya>fair use? :P
01:27<RIVE>I had tehe sae problem with a Simpsonms original DVD's
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02:03<Steven-M>gsimmons: what does flush-mail do?
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02:14<Akuma_s>cat /etc/debian_version
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02:57<gl4ze>Sweeney-Todd, how bout some pies
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03:02<zepard>hi peaople
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03:03<zepard>is there a way to use a laptop as screen for a pc
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03:04<padski>zepard: vnc
03:04<zepard>I have a female female vga cable
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03:04<franklin>zepard, you can't use the cable.
03:04<zepard>and not installed yet linux on that pc
03:05<padski>zepard: vga input is different to vga output. a laptop will typically have output, not input.
03:05<zepard>is the cable only for output to monitor
03:05<padski>zepard: null modem cable, serial console.
03:06<zepard>no serial
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03:06<zepard>no modem cable but have modem
03:07<zepard>the purpose is to install debian on that pc
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03:07<zepard>blind would be tricky no?
03:07<zepard>i'm not sure it boots on cd first
03:07<Sweeney-Todd>gl4ze: you hungry?
03:08<franklin>zepard, ouch...
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03:08<franklin>zepard, that would be trick !
03:08<padski>zepard: serial console
03:08<zepard>what is that
03:08<padski>zephttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/ard:
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03:10<zepard>ok something to read then but I have no serial plug on laptop!
03:10<zepard>should it work though
03:10<franklin>zepard, You should check if you can boot from your CD at first. If you can't, well...
03:11<padski>zepard: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=usb+to+rs232
03:11<franklin>zepard, If you buy a USB-serial adapter. But you still need to be able to boot from the CD
03:12<padski>or create a custom installer that doesn't need any input and will put you on the network with a sshd or whatever running
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03:13<zepard>for the story I experienced a serial usb plug once with a voice card for dev but didn't work well
03:14<franklin>zepard, Many people use this at work (to manage switch/routers from a laptop)
03:14<zepard>ok
03:14<zepard>if no cd boot then I have to access the bios !
03:15<zepard>maybe it is still a wind.. box
03:15<zepard>in it
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03:15<zepard>I got it from a company trush
03:15<franklin>zepard, It should be possible to plug the device in another computer, then install debian (with a proper kernel), then switch back.
03:16<zepard>what do you mean by device
03:16<zepard>the hard disk?
03:16<franklin>zepard, yes.
03:16<zepard>yes
03:16<zepard>it should the last trick
03:17<zepard>but should find a connection to it from the laptop
03:17<zepard>it should be an ide hard drive
03:18<zepard>thx
03:18<franklin>zepard, you could use a usb disk-"box" (can't find the proper english name)
03:18<padski>not easy. the cables for laptop ide disks are different.
03:18<franklin>zepard, but installing the bootlaoder properly would be tricky.
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03:20<zepard>padski I think I can disamble an external hard drive which is an ide drive with a usb output
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03:23<franklin>zepard, I meant a usb box like : http://www.acryan.com/alubox/ACR-HD50152.shtml/clic.php?pdt=62832
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03:24<alaya>enclosure
03:24<franklin>thanks
03:25<zepard>franklin, ah!
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03:28<franklin>zepard, You would have to use debootstrap to install debian : be prepared if you never used it => it's not easy to do, as i said, especially the boot loader.
03:28<zepard>right thx
03:29<zepard>I 'm going to check the boot of this pc. hopefully on cd first. and try to start an ssh session on it blind to connect from my laptop
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03:32<zepard>thanks a lot guys, see you.
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03:41<mihau>hello
03:42<mihau>!nvidia twinview
03:42<dpkg>somebody said nvidia twinview was sharing 2 screens (scr, tv what so ever) on you nvidia card you need to have the nvidia driver installed (ask nvidia) and read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/ README and example script
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03:57<mihau>!xorg
03:57<dpkg>well, xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg (freenode), or ask about <drxx> to reconfigure.
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04:19<SoulKeeper>So, I just downloaded Debian.
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04:20<SoulKeeper>What are some good applications to start with/
04:20<SoulKeeper>For a new linux user.
04:20<barebackobama>dopewars
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04:21<SoulKeeper>Also, anyone familiar with xchat?
04:22<aptituz>SoulKeeper: probably its a better idea to just ask as what you want
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04:23<SoulKeeper>Well, I don't want anything in particular.
04:23<SoulKeeper>I'm new to debian and linux as a whole.
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04:23<franklin>SoulKeeper, what kind of application ?
04:23<SoulKeeper>Possibly one for an experience web developer?
04:23<franklin>SoulKeeper, because there are lots !
04:24<SoulKeeper>I know there's lots. I just need a good one for an experienced web developer.
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04:25<franklin>SoulKeeper, again there are lots of fields, fir GUI application, have a look at Glade...
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04:27<franklin>SoulKeeper, To know more about how to make a Debian package, you could have a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/ (starting with "Debian New Maintainers' Guide")
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04:29<franklin>SoulKeeper, as you probably know, the list of the available applications is available at system Menu>Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
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04:29<SoulKeeper>Yep. I figured out the Synaptic Package Manager.
04:29<SoulKeeper>Hence how I have x-chat and amsn
04:30<franklin>SoulKeeper, I like xchat too.
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04:30<SoulKeeper>I'm not too familiar with it, yet.
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04:33<SoulKeeper>Is there scripting available on x-chat like on mIRC?
04:33<cahoot>you expect a linux to be as advanced and mallable as a win app?
04:33<SoulKeeper>No, I don't expect.
04:33<SoulKeeper>Hence why I asked.
04:34<cahoot>http://digdilem.org/irc/
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04:36<avu>SoulKeeper: x-chat can be scripted in several languages, like tcl and python
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04:36<mrteez>hi
04:36<mrteez>how to install firefox in debian ?
04:37<valdyn>!info firefox etch
04:37<avu>mrteez: apt-get install iceweasel
04:37<cahoot>why not use iceweasel?
04:37<dpkg>firefox: (Transition package for iceweasel rename), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.0.10-0etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
04:37<franklin>mrteez, Iceweseal ~= Firefox
04:37<mrteez>i cant' install flash ^^
04:37<mrteez>in iceweasel
04:38<avu>mrteez: your fault, not iceweasel's :(
04:38<franklin>mrteez, see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer?highlight=%28flash%29
04:38<SoulKeeper>You have 1 broken package on your system!
04:38<SoulKeeper>Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
04:38<avu>mrteez: tried the flash installer provided by debian?
04:38<SoulKeeper>How do I fix it?
04:38<Gekz>SoulKeeper: unbreak it :D
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04:38<SoulKeeper>Lol, I don't know what's broke.
04:38<SoulKeeper>Or how to fix it.
04:38<Gekz>haha
04:38<Gekz>read a manual
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04:39<avu>SoulKeeper: maybe you could use the Broken filter to locate the package? ;)
04:39<SoulKeeper>How do I use the broken filter?
04:40<franklin>SoulKeeper, it's on the left panel (!)
04:40<mrteez>i'll try
04:41<franklin>SoulKeeper, it's on the left panel (!) => (button custom filter)
04:41<SoulKeeper>Yep. It marked one thing in the list of stuff.
04:41<SoulKeeper>Just re-install that, I presume.
04:42<SoulKeeper>Wow. I fixed it.
04:42<SoulKeeper>:D
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04:44<mrteez>if i do "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" i get the mesage that the package is not available but is referenced by another package
04:45<SoulKeeper>Hmm. I had iceweasel pre-installed, and just grabbed the installer for flas.
04:45<SoulKeeper>flash**
04:45<SoulKeeper>Worked fine for me.
04:45<devil>mrteez: you might be missing non-free option in sources.list
04:46<mrteez>i also tried the installer
04:46<mrteez>and it istalled successfully but iceweasel still told me it needs flash
04:46*SoulKeeper shrugs
04:47<SoulKeeper>I got it to work just fine.
04:47<SoulKeeper>And if I had problems even fixing a package, you should be able to install flash easier than I.
04:47<suiside>mrteez: flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib, do you have contrib repositories enabled in your sources.list?
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04:47<mrteez>suiside: how can i chekc this? *i'm new to linux#
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04:48<mrteez>where is sources.list in
04:48<mrteez>etc/ ?
04:48<franklin>SoulKeeper, flash installation is explained in http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
04:48<suiside>mrteez: read the apt howto on debian.org
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04:49<Killing_Frost>Greetings, all.
04:49<SoulKeeper>I like the Synaptic. It installs programs for me.
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04:50*Killing_Frost prefers using aliased CLI aptitude commands.
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04:52<AbsintheSyringe>has anyone made intel945 go beyond 1024x768?
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04:52<valdyn>!tell AbsintheSyringe -about ask
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04:53<Killing_Frost>!tell Killing_Frost about routers
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04:54<valdyn>!tell Killing_Frost -about selftell
04:54<debian_>hi
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04:54<SoulKeeper>What do I download to have transparent windows, if they're not the active one?
04:54<valdyn>SoulKeeper: compiz
04:54<franklin>AbsintheSyringe, You may have to modify the "Modes" line in xorg.conf
04:54<debian_>i installed windows xp after debian and i want to fix my mbr and grub. how should i do? can you give me an official link please?
04:55<valdyn>hah
04:55<valdyn>!mbr
04:55<dpkg>rumour has it, mbr is the Master Boot Record, the first bit of code loaded from the hard drive when a PC boots. to install a clean MBR (e.g. to get rid of lilo if it is in the mbr) from DOS one can run "fdisk /mbr"; from linux "install-mbr /dev/hda"
04:55<gsimmons_>!tell debian_ -about fixmbr
04:55<valdyn>ignore what dpkg just said in here
04:55<franklin>debian_, boot on debian CD, select rescue mode... select option restore bootloader in the menu
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04:56<AbsintheSyringe>franklin, I tried doing it under screen didn't seem to do it :/
04:56<AbsintheSyringe>franklin, have you had success?
04:57<SoulKeeper>So, after I download compiz, how does it work?
04:57<valdyn>AbsintheSyringe: would you please follow the etiquette of this channel and read what dpkg told you and follow what dpkg told you
04:57<mrteez>is there a way to install .rpm from commandline ?
04:57<valdyn>AbsintheSyringe: its for your own good, you will get help much easier
04:57<franklin>AbsintheSyringe, I tested a Tecra A8 a while ago. have a look at http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/debian/Etch_on_Tecra_A8.html#Display
04:58<AbsintheSyringe>valdyn, not a problem
04:58<AbsintheSyringe>franklin, awesome, tnx
04:58*Killing_Frost wonders...if you're using a router, does that mean your desktop comp has a static IP, while the router handles dynamic IP addresses via DHCP?
04:59<valdyn>Killing_Frost: a router is a router, it doesnt do anything else
04:59<SoulKeeper>valdyn
04:59<valdyn>Killing_Frost: usually devices that are routers _also_ have a dhcp server.
04:59<SoulKeeper>I just downloaded compiz with Synaptic.
04:59<SoulKeeper>Now what do I do?
05:00<valdyn>SoulKeeper: read the docs?
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05:00<Killing_Frost>I know /etc/resolv.conf points to the router for "nameserver." I'm just trying to figure out why sendmail perodically loses all my mail
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05:01<SoulKeeper>...I didn't find any docs.
05:01<valdyn>SoulKeeper: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
05:01<SoulKeeper>Bah, I'll just go find a friend who can help me out better.
05:01<SoulKeeper>Oh.
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05:02<SoulKeeper>I have the package and all, but how do I get it to work now?
05:02<Killing_Frost>First time I've used a router, to connect both desk and laptops to the thing. Still haven't figgerd out what-all routers do.
05:03<SoulKeeper>I downloaded the whole compiz thing out of Synaptic.
05:04<AbsintheSyringe>SoulKeeper, konsole, compiz --replace
05:05<Killing_Frost>Then again, sendmail didn't start losing my mail until I ported to Lenny.
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05:05<SoulKeeper>/usr/bin/compiz.real: SmcOpenConnection failed: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
05:05<SoulKeeper>/usr/bin/compiz.real: No composite extension
05:06<AbsintheSyringe>SoulKeeper, gotta take care of your xorg, add enable "composite", try some googling, "debian version compiz fusion"
05:06<valdyn>SoulKeeper: more /usr/share/doc/compiz-core/README.Debian
05:06<valdyn>SoulKeeper: you really must hate reading
05:06<SoulKeeper>Yah.
05:06<SoulKeeper>It's easier to get help when you first start, then read things.
05:07<suiside>SoulKeeper: if your not going to go through the effort of reading docs on your own no one is going to go through the effort of helping you either
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05:07<Killing_Frost>Run your docs thru the fudd or cockney filters, or maybe pirate. Makes reading them more enjoyable.
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05:12<mrteez>where can i set boot parameter ? for example ACPI=off ?
05:13<franklin>mrteez, /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt.gz (install linux-doc-* )
05:14<avu>mrteez: depends on what bootloader you are using
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05:14<avu>mrteez: wiith grub, for example, it would be /boot/grub/menu.lst
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05:15<franklin>mrteez, (sorry for the clueless answer where <> which ;)
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05:17<mrteez>thank you
05:17<mrteez>avu: uisng grub, thank you
05:17<mrteez>i heard if i turn acpi=off after the kernel in this file sound works
05:18<mrteez>that's a problem with these hda intel devices
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05:19<Killing_Frost>Your tax dollars at work: Dept of Rehab gives me a $250 wristwatch that speaks the current time, while I'm wearing a $25 wristwatch from Radio Shack that tells me the time, the day of teh month, chimes hourly, has a talking stopwatch, AND four alarms.
05:19<noflash> /ignore -replies Killing_Frost
05:21*Killing_Frost grins and returns the favor.
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05:39*Killing_Frost is off like a prom dress...
05:39<Killing_Frost>Keep well...
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05:44<luxh>this "laptop" package set you can choose to install through the installer, is there some way to install it with apt-get afterwards?
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05:44<valdyn>luxh: its not a package, its a task that installs several packages
05:45<valdyn>luxh: you can read grab the package list from the task description
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05:45<valdyn>luxh: or just run "tasksel"
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05:46<luxh>thanks valdyn!
05:47*luxh recommends the new fluxbox release
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06:13<cretin>hi
06:13<SoulKeeper>What's a good microsoft emulator?
06:13<valdyn>SoulKeeper: emulate being a huge company?
06:14<valdyn>!confuse SoulKeeper
06:14<dpkg>No, how was your pants yesterday, SoulKeeper? wellies of the people's republic of belarus with extra cheese
06:14<SoulKeeper>...
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06:14<SoulKeeper>I'm just looking for an emulator that'll let me install/play my microsoft games on linux.
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06:15<valdyn>!wine
06:15<dpkg>hmm... wine is packaged in the 'wine' package. http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq (irc.freenode.net). Stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. A buggy alternative win32 API, or a tasty alcoholic beverage.
06:15<valdyn>!cedega
06:15<dpkg>i heard cedega is the new name for Transgaming's WineX - a proprietary fork of WINE designed to play Windows games. Limited CVS available at http://transgaming.org/cvs/ but missing key components such as copy protection or installshield functionality, or and the packaging saga summarised at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg02823.html
06:16<valdyn>SoulKeeper: you really mean windows, not microsoft
06:16<cretin>I'm a new user of Linux & need help
06:16<valdyn>!noob
06:16<dpkg>Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not.
06:16<SoulKeeper>Yes, windows.
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06:18<cretin>I can't get networking on new install of 4.0r2 can anyone help me
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06:19<castalia>hi everyone! i've got a problem with my usb pen drive on new relear 4.0r2... when i plug it, it doesn't appear any icon on the desktop, and typing 'mount' from the command line does not work
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06:21<valdyn>!etherconf
06:21<dpkg>etherconf is probably a package that can be used to redo the initial configuration on your NIC....install it and then 'dpkg-reconfigure etherconf'
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06:26<cretin>trying to use aptitude but wants to connect to ftp.debian.org ( 1.0.0.0) - I think the DNS is screwed up but not sure where to look
06:30*SoulKeeper is away: Sleep
06:31<valdyn>cretin: which nameserver is specified in /etc/resolv.conf ?
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06:33<cretin>My Router, 2 servers listed by the router & 2 servers also listed by my ISP
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06:33<valdyn>cretin: you created that file?
06:33<valdyn>cretin: or edited?
06:34<cretin>edited several times already
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06:34<cretin>I can ping local machine & external names OK but the browsers won't connect unless i happen to ping the address first
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06:35<valdyn>cretin: were trying to fix aptitude accesssing ftp.debian.org, no?
06:35<valdyn>cretin: is the "dig" program available?
06:36<cretin>dig is available
06:36<maxh>I have a problem with my high iowait. from time to time my machine starts to write (read) like crazy form my HD, blocking the UI (KDE) completly. This happens specially when i log on the first time. vmstat shows me high io(bo) and cpu(wa). and i have no clue what it is causing. any idea how i can track down which process is cauing the high IO usage?
06:36<valdyn>cretin: run: "dig @<topmost_nameserver_from_resolv.conf> ftp.debian.org
06:36<valdyn>cretin: run: "dig @<topmost_nameserver_from_resolv.conf> ftp.debian.org"
06:37<valdyn>cretin: see if that command gives you the proper IP, the proper A record
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06:39<cretin>yes i think it did ANSWER SECTION: ftp.debian.org 3600 IN A 128.101.240.212
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06:40<valdyn>cretin: now use aptitude and tell what that gives
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06:40<valdyn>cretin: that A record is fine indeed.
06:40<cretin>OK what aptutude command should i use
06:41<valdyn>cretin: "aptitude update" is ok
06:41<valdyn>cretin: anything that didnt work before
06:42<cretin>it replies several lines of Ign cdrom ://Debian GNU Linux 4.0 r2 etch..........
06:42<cretin>75% [connecting to ftp.debian.org (1.0.0.0)
06:42<valdyn>cretin: ok
06:42<cretin>then times out
06:43<valdyn>cretin: try "wget ftp.debian.org"
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06:43<valdyn>cretin: and also "ping ftp.debian.org"
06:43<mrteez>why can't i find java sdk in synaptic ?
06:43<valdyn>cretin: let me know how these resolve ftp.debian.org
06:44<cretin>same resolving ft.debian.org 1.0.0.0
06:44<valdyn>cretin: what does "host ftp.debian.org" give ?
06:45<cretin>ping ftp.debian.org gives 128.101.240.212 correctly
06:45<valdyn>cretin: ok, hold on
06:46<maxh>mrteez: try to search for sun-java...
06:46<valdyn>cretin: what about "host ftp.debian.org" ?
06:46<cretin>host ftp.debian.org gives address 128.101.240.212
06:46<maxh>mrteez: if oyu want the Java from Sun
06:46<valdyn>cretin: whats the output for "echo $http_proxy" ?
06:47<cretin>nothing at all
06:47<valdyn>cretin: is your ISP using transparent proxying?
06:48<cretin>I've no idea, I'm connected to a 4 port ethernet router, all my other machines have always worked ok though
06:48<valdyn>cretin: also try if "wget ftp://ftp.debian.org" gives a different result
06:49<mrteez>maxh: there should be a package called sun-java6-sdk
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06:49<cretin>yes it connects to 128.101.240.212
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06:49<valdyn>cretin: you're sufferign from a bad http proxy somewhere
06:49<mrteez>in ubuntu synaptic found the package but in debian it isn't there
06:50<valdyn>cretin: try that: 'http_proxy="" wget ftp.debian.org'
06:50<maxh>In my cache (Debian unstable) there is a package named sun-java6-jdk - thought i dont use synaptics but aptitude. Did you do an "update"?
06:50<maxh>mrteez: In my cache (Debian unstable) there is a package named sun-java6-jdk - thought i dont use synaptics but aptitude. Did you do an "update"?
06:51<cretin>this is a fresh install of 4.0r2 i have been told to remove the network-manager
06:51<cretin>
06:51<valdyn>cretin: that's ok, i dont think its relevant
06:52<valdyn>cretin: what about the above command with the http_proxy="" ?
06:52<cretin>http_proxy= wget ftp.debain.org gives 1.0.0.0 again
06:52<valdyn>cretin: your isp or your router is mangling http
06:53<valdyn>cretin: do the other boxes still work fine?
06:53<cretin>yes all the others have always worked ok, it's just this one.......
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06:54<cretin>I did try an installation of fedora 8 several days ago with the same problem, so just went back to debian
06:54<valdyn>cretin: this isnt a debian issue most likely
06:55<valdyn>cretin: thanks for telling that fedora8 showed the same behaviour
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06:55<valdyn>cretin: you can use ftp:// instead of http:// in your /etc/apt/sources.list
06:55<valdyn>cretin: but im pretty much at a dead end how your http traffic can be mangled like that
06:55<cretin>i've never used a proxy direcly, i've never set one up
06:56<valdyn>cretin: doesnt matter, the 'http_proxy="" wget ftp.debian.org' cleared that with 100% certainty
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06:56<maxh>cretin: did you use the "" in the http_proxy="" ?
06:57<valdyn>cretin: if you REALLY did that.
06:57<cretin><maxh> err no i don't think so, i'll try again
06:57<cretin>
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06:57<valdyn>maxh: i really tend to believe in pebkac too
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06:58<valdyn>because i dont get how http traffic just gets mangled like that
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06:58<valdyn>when its not even really http, doing a dns request
06:58<maxh>cretin: just do 'unset http_proxy' (without ''). this will make sure you dont use any proxy
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06:59<cretin>It gave the same result ie 1.0.0.0
06:59<cretin>
07:00<Gekz>oi
07:00<Gekz>how do I install grub if it failed during the installer
07:00<Gekz>like, apt-get install grub
07:00<Gekz>but how do I make it do it's debian-style autoconfiging :)
07:00<valdyn>!fixmbr
07:00<dpkg>So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub"
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07:03<Gekz>thanks
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07:05<mrteez>maxh: i don't have debian unstable section
07:06<mrteez>;p
07:06<gnufan>Is there a simple "just do this" to get a netinstall image. I have 2GB USB drive, and need to have a decent Etch installer on it quick? Otherwise I'll have to grab the CD from work on route.
07:06<maxh>mrteez: i have no clue which version is in stable/testing. sorry
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07:08<cretin><valdyn> Any other suggestions
07:08<maxh>gnufan: there is a tiny-cd (USB sticks) image. but oyu have to get all packages from the network during the install then
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07:09<maxh>you find more instructions on http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/netinst
07:09<knoppix__>hi there
07:09<mrteez>what are etch-backports and how can i install them from synaptic ?
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07:11<fxiny>!bpo
07:11<dpkg>well, backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update
07:11<maxh>mrteez: backports are packages which are "newer than those in etch" and which are "backported from testing/unstable version to the Etch version (usually by people who dont want upgrade their machine just to use a few new packages)
07:12<gnufan>maxh: that is fine - found the relevant bit of the Debian Etch install guide -- ah it has a link to a MANIFEST which downloads as text - all is suddenly clear. let us hope it is x86 my mate is fiddling with ;)
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07:12<maxh>gnufan: well, you sure should get the right image for the right processor ;-)8
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07:15<cretin><valdyn> are you still there]
07:15<cretin>
07:15<cretin>
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07:16<gnufan>maxh: The instructions seem to suggest I should copy the image over my SCSI disk - that can't be right ;)
07:17<maxh>gnufan: are you sticking to the USB stick installation?
07:18<gnufan>maxh: I just wanted an install image - in case he gets stuck doing some less features operating system!
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07:18<mrteez>installing jdk in ubuntu is much easier
07:18<gnufan>maxh: Yes, I got the netinstall for USB - that'll do he has broadband of a sort.
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07:20<maxh>gnufan: 1) DL the files from the "hd-media" diretcory ... and then do the steps described in "4.4. Preparing Files for USB Memory Stick Booting"
07:20<maxh>you basically read chapter 4.2 and then 4.4
07:20<maxh>not that there is much reading to be done
07:21<maxh>mrteez: what Debian version do you use? stable or testing?
07:21<gnufan>maxh: I think I'm ready just trying to figure out the bios setting for boot from USB on my mini itx board to test it.
07:21<maxh>gnufan: be warned that the contecnt of your USB stick will be destroyed
07:22<maxh>gnufan: ahh, .... make sure your friends machine provides this too. if not ou have a nice USB stick from which you can't boot
07:23<maxh>gnufan: i used always the steps described in 4.4.1 - don't forget to add the netinst (or businesscard ISO) to the USB stick after you prepared it. (that was the mistake i did the first time i tried it)
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07:34<sati>Hi all
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07:37<sati>I'm a new user of debian and my first question is : I it a place for noob question about the Debian or is this the same scheme than french channel (ie Disregard and Arrogance)
07:38<cahoot>it all is a matter of human interaction
07:38<avtobiff>sati, now state your question :-)
07:39<sati>avtobiff, i haven't àa particular question 'cause i get a solution thanks to a #ubuntu-fr user :|
07:39<avtobiff>sati, alright.
07:40<sati>i've been kicked for asking a noob question in #debian-fr
07:40<sati>it is so regrettable
07:40<fxiny>what question ?
07:40<maxh>just to make sure ... are you using ubuntu or debian? ;-)
07:40<sati>about a line command : updatedb
07:41<sati>i'd like use the locate command line and before i 'd like to do this update but i had forgotten this
07:41<sati>i use Debian etch
07:42<sati>(sorry for my english it is a long time that i don't practice this)
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07:43<fxiny>have you checked "man updatedb" just to have a better idea of what is about ?
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07:44<sati>no, besause i've forgotten the name of this command line :)
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07:44<fxiny>sati: every command comes with a man : man <command> :)
07:44<sati>i just remembered something like update
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07:45<sati>fxiny, i talk about updatedb
07:45<suiside>sati: do you actually have a question?
07:45<sati>not for the moment
07:45<suiside>right, okay then...
07:45<fxiny>sati: yes : type : man updatedb
07:45<sati>i see that this channel is more symphatic than frcn channel
07:46<sati>i wish i have a better english
07:46<sati>*french
07:47<sati>i try to learn more about linux with O'Reilly book but it is an english version. i fell somme difficult to work on it
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07:48<maxh>sati: see it this way. you learn english and linux at the same time ;-)
07:48<sati>yeah that's what i tell to myself
07:48<fxiny>sati: read official debian docs in your native language then
07:48<sati>but it's not so easy
07:49<sati>Try to learn Wine story with french doc... :)
07:49<suiside>sati: this is really a support channel, if you don't have a question and just want to chat you could try #debian-offtopic instead
07:49<sati>(wine = the alcohol)
07:50<zobel>!stable
07:50<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Etch (4.0r2), or ask me about <releases>.
07:50<sati>suiside, sorry i just introduce myself. I'm gonna to mute myself right now :)
07:50<zobel>dpkg: no, stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Etch (4.0r3), or ask me about <releases>.
07:50<dpkg>zobel: okay
07:50<zobel>!etch
07:50<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>).
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07:55<zepard>franklin, huh, the old pc doesn't boot on cd
07:55<zepard>anyway, I should find a monitor I think :(
07:56<franklin>zepard, damn-it !
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07:56<pdy>hi
07:56<franklin>zepard, yes, it would be much easier...
07:56<zepard>hey people, I am on sid xfce4 laptop, do you have some problems on executing commands like du
07:56<franklin>zepard, what brand is it ?
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07:56<zepard>I have a problem with it
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07:57<zepard>franklin, the pc is a Dell optiplex gx 110
07:57<franklin>zepard, because on some computer, when you press f12, you get a boot menu (you could blindly press down key [once|two|three] times , then press enter .
07:57<zepard>franklin, I took a look on the internet to setup boot on cd blind
07:58<zepard>yes I tried that
07:58<zepard>all combinations
07:58<franklin>zepard, no luck ;)
07:58<zepard>on my laptop it does that
07:59-!-mode/#debian [+l 331] by debhelper
07:59<zepard>I looked on the internet for screenshots of the bios but nothing
07:59<franklin>zepard, search dell website. they have not so bad documentation
08:00<zepard>people reported that they have some problems to get it boot with cd, so I'm not lucky with this thingy
08:00<amphi>zepard: if the bios won't boot from cd, a floppy with a smart boot manager image on it may let you do so
08:00<zepard>yeah i'll do
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08:00<zepard>hum, should look for old floppies at home
08:01<zepard>but my laptop has no floppy reader
08:01<franklin>zepard, ... http://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx110/en/index.htm
08:01<zepard>thx
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08:02<zepard>anyway i have problem with my terminal sometimes it gives blank lines when need output commands like apt-get update, du but not always
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08:04<zepard>any idea about this
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08:05<zepard> sudo du /home/ --max-depth\=1 -H gives many blank lines
08:06<zepard>is it a bug on sid, xfce4
08:06<zepard>?
08:07<pdy>zepard: are you aware of the fact that Sid is the "unstable" tree?
08:07<zepard>yes
08:07<zepard>thx
08:07<suiside>subtle hints
08:07<pdy>people who use Sid should be skilled enough to investigate simple problems
08:07<franklin>zepard, can you reproduce the problem : 1. from Console 2. when running "sudo -i", then the command ?
08:10<zepard>no I can't
08:10<zepard>with sudo -i it works fine until now
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08:10<zepard>but it seems to be random or I didn't find the right thing wich do this
08:11<franklin>zepard, what xterm do you use ?
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08:12<zepard>i use xfce4-terminal 0.2.8-3 but did the same thing on xterm 231-1
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08:14<franklin>zepard, Do you have some special chars in your usernames ? after which username do you have the blank name ? is it always the same line that is missing ?
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08:15<zepard>no special chars
08:15<zepard>but there is no missing lines
08:15<zepard>there are added blank lines
08:15<zepard>the output
08:16<zepard>and the a set of propt lines
08:16<zepard>(it's linke I typed a dozen of enters)
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08:18<fxiny>just the enter key ?
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08:18<fxiny>or is a keyboard repetion issue ?
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08:20<zepard>it's like a repeated enter key typed when the command is processed
08:20<franklin>zepard, I installed it, but can't reproduce the error.
08:20<zepard>I can't reproduce it on tty2 for example
08:20<franklin>zepard, is the blank line always inserted at the same position ?
08:21<zepard>franklin, you installed xfce4-terminal?
08:21<franklin>zepard, yes
08:21<zepard>maybe an xfce4 issue
08:21<zepard>because I can do the same on xterm
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08:22<zepard>when on xfce launched
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08:22<franklin>zepard, Hold on, I install xfce..
08:23<zepard>ok
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08:24<munga>where do I get an old version of a package ?
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08:25<petemc>!sdn
08:25<dpkg>i guess sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is largely lost because of harddisk problems.
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08:33<franklin>zepard, Ouch I've experienced a new bug in testing's kernel2.6.22+xorg..
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08:34<franklin>zepard, I've tested your command under xfce4... no problem.
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08:37<zepard>it's not particular for this command
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08:38<mihau>hello
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08:38<zepard>franklin, hum
08:38<mihau>is there any program to watch tv by internet?
08:38<mihau>for debian ofc
08:38<mihau>:P
08:39<mihau>like tvants
08:39<zepard>franklin, im on 24-1
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08:40<mandygirl20>Hab mit meiner Freundin ein Video aufgenommen wie ich nackig dusche zu Hause, wenn du dir es mal ansehen willst kuck mal auf meine Homepage: http://www.mandymaus.de
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08:41<sati>which server have i to use to get the key 0AC5BE61
08:42<sati>?
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08:42<zepard>franklin, it's realy bizarr
08:43<franklin>zepard, you could try to open and actual "xterm", set $LANG variables to something ...
08:43<sati>it try gpg --recv-key 0AC5BE61 but i need a keyserver...which one?
08:43<zepard>franklin, i have random numbers of lines 7, 22, 9 , and also 0 (no problem)
08:44<franklin>sati, gpg has default keyservers. don't specify it
08:44<zepard>linke what value
08:45<franklin>zepard, don't you have a background'ed job ?
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08:45<sati>franklin, i have a message :"gpg : no serverkey known
08:45<zepard>it is en_US.UTF-8
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08:46<zepard>what do you mean by backgrouded job?
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08:47<franklin>sati, try reinstalling gnupg (or fetch the key from subkeys.pgp.net )
08:47<sati>franklin, "gpg: keyserver receive failed : bad URI"
08:47<sati>franklin, ok
08:48<franklin>zepard, a command started with "&", like "xclock &"
08:48<zepard>no I didn't do that
08:48<franklin>zepard, that's odd..
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08:49<franklin>zepard, i.e have I no more clues ;)
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08:49<zepard>franklin, thx
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08:49<kpshajina>any 1 using qemu?
08:50<zepard>I think I will reinstall xfce
08:50<Aleric>kpshajina: I was, until I erased my homedir.
08:50<zepard>or install another terminal emulator
08:50<zepard>to test it
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08:50<zepard>but I think its xfce
08:50<franklin>zepard, just one more guess... try with another user (a new one)
08:51<zepard>you think its a user issue?
08:51<franklin>zepard, just a guess.. maybe a preference somewhere
08:51<kpshajina>oh ok can u tel me how do i run qemu and terminal at the same time
08:52<franklin>kpshajina, just ask your question
08:52<fxiny>try mv ~/.xfce4 ~/.xfce4_old first . restart xfce4
08:52<kpshajina>without stopping qemu monitor how do i use the same terminal
08:52<kpshajina>?
08:52<zepard>franklin, i ave another user, it's can't reproduce it
08:53<zepard>at least with this command
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08:53<franklin>kpshajina, press Ctrl-Z, then "bg 1" (see bash's manpage about jobs )
08:53<kpshajina>ok thnx i'l try
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08:55<franklin>zepard, humm...
08:55<zepard>so it my user thingy somwhere!!!
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08:56<kpshajina>anybody has access rights to acm account?
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08:57<mrteez>where are the environment options set in debian ?
08:57<mrteez>for example JAVAHOME
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09:00<franklin>mrteez, usual stuffs, AFAIK (profile...)
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09:01<mrteez>where is the profile file
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09:03<franklin>mrteez, systemwide is in /etc/profile
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09:04<mrteez>hmmm
09:04<mrteez>i need to know where eclipse takes the java path from
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09:07<franklin>mrteez, have a look at /etc/eclipse/java_home
09:07<mrteez>got it
09:07<mrteez>thanks
09:07<mrteez>that's what i did right now
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09:08<woody>hi people ! : )
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09:09<franklin>To who may needs it... you can browse the content of the full Etch distribution at sysinf0.klabs.be ... for instance : http://sysinf0.klabs.be/etc/eclipse/java_home
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09:16<zepard>franklin, huh, I can't reproduce it now, it's annoying, I just removed some dot files,freed some space on /home directory (almost 100%)
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09:17<Woet>make[2]: yacc: Command not found
09:17<Woet>make[2]: *** [ircd_parser.c] Error 127
09:17<Woet>how to fix those errors?
09:17<luxh>install yacc
09:18<Woet>didnt work
09:18<Woet>i installed 'btyacc'
09:18<Woet>now i get other errors
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09:18<Woet>hang on
09:18<Burlone>nessuno parla italiano?
09:18<zepard>franklin, too fast spoken
09:18<pumpkin0>!it
09:18<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, prova il canale #debian-it, oppure #linux-it.
09:18<Burlone>GrAzIe
09:18<Burlone>: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
09:18<luxh>Woet: did you rerun configure?
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09:18<kpshajina>any1 has access to acm portal?
09:18<franklin>zepard, grrrr random problem..
09:19<zepard>it seems to be yes
09:20<Burlone>debian support wi.fi?
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09:20<pumpkin0>Burlone: like most other linuxs: yes
09:20<luxh>i run ipw2200 with wpa works like a charm
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09:22<zepard>franklin, I installed konsole
09:22<Woet>btyaccpa.ske:825: error: expected â)â before â*â token
09:22<Woet>make[4]: *** [ircd_parser.o] Error 1
09:22<franklin>zepard, and...
09:22<Woet>make gets lots of errors
09:23<Woet>./configure runs fine
09:23<rollingbits>!yacc
09:23<dpkg>well, yacc is Yet Another Compiler Compiler, or apt-get install bison
09:23<Woet>i already installed it
09:23<Woet>didnt fix it
09:23<zepard>franklin, when I run it (konsole):) I have 2 results: 1. the same command (on xfce4-terminal) is slower slower slower, 2. I can't reproduce it
09:24<pumpkin0>Woet: what are you trying to compile and why don't you install the precompiled edition ?
09:24<Woet>because the package on debian is outdated
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09:24<luxh>Woet: there must be some readme file with a recommended yacc compiler
09:24<pumpkin0>Woet: checked backports ?
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09:24<Woet>pumpkin0: checked what?
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09:25<pumpkin0>Woet: backports created debs with newer versions for debian. precompiled, ready to use.
09:25<Woet>err, yea
09:25<Woet>but how to get them?
09:25<pumpkin0>http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php
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09:27<Woet>hm, i just managed to make and make install ircd-ircu
09:27<Woet>but i have no idea how to start it
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09:28<snaqo>i'd love the 2.6.24 kernel to be backported
09:28<Woet>pumpkin0
09:28<Woet>Failed to fetch http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found
09:28<Woet>Failed to fetch http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found
09:28<Woet>Failed to fetch http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Found
09:28-!-Woet was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
09:28<snaqo>my hardware is only supported since 23
09:28<snaqo>;/
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09:28<Woet>and now
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09:28<Woet>W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C
09:28<luxh>nothing stops you from compiling your own kernel, snaqo :)
09:29<pumpkin0>Woet: you have to get the key if you don't trust backports. That is the same thing with every repo you add.
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09:30<snaqo>yeah.. i forgot, its not like that, that japanese dude created a etch installer with the newer kernel. the problem is the nvidia driver hehe. sorry
09:30<Woet>pumpkin0 -> how to get a key?
09:30<noflash>woet, /msg dpkg no public key
09:30<noflash>or you could read the topic
09:30<Woet>well, i will just ignore it
09:30<Woet>i assume
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09:32<zepard>ok I am going to have lunch now it late
09:32<zepard>see you
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09:45<Woet>whats the best software to run a IRC server with?
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09:46<azeem>Woet: the one which is the most awesome and bugfree
09:46<Woet>yea, and which one is that?
09:46<Woet>ircu or unreal?
09:47<luxh>unreal is popular
09:47<Woet>k, i will take that one then
09:47<Woet>thank you
09:47<azeem>Woet: how many users do you plan to have on your network?
09:47<Woet>err, a couple of hunderd
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09:48*lupine remembers the last time Woet tried to run an IRC server
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09:48<Woet>hmm?
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09:48<lupine>better luck this time, eh?
09:48<mrpouet>hi
09:49<luxh>hi
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09:49<azeem>Woet: it probably doesn't matter much for a couple of hundred, dunno
09:50<Woet>ok, thanks
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09:54<Woet>whats the difference between hub and leaf?
09:55<azeem>Woet: how is this question related to Debian?
09:55<Woet>err, i get that question from Unreal
09:55<Woet>compile as hub or leave?
09:55<azeem>consult the documentation then
09:55<azeem>this channel is not a irc server helpdesk, sorry
09:55<Woet>err, arent these just common words?
09:56<pumpkin0>Woet: if you run a irc-server: no.
09:56<azeem>Woet: how many server will run your network?
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09:58<lupine>you should probably compile it as apical meristem
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09:58<Woet>"Apparently you do not have both the openssl binary and openssl development libraries installed."
09:59<Woet>when installing openssl
09:59<Woet>"openssl is already the newest version."
09:59<lupine>-dev ?
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09:59<Woet>not found.
09:59<Woet>E: Couldn't find package openssl-dev
09:59<azeem>Woet: why don't you install one of the irc server .debs
09:59<lupine>Woet: try apt-cache search
09:59<lupine>It's right there
09:59<Woet>it isnt in the package list
09:59<Woet>except 'openssl'
09:59<Woet>http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=openssl&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all
10:00<lupine>au contraire, 64 packages match
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10:17<Wi_Fi>morn all
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10:19<Wi_Fi>hey guys tryin to get drivers for intel web cam installed
10:19<Wi_Fi>ID 0733:0430 ViewQuest Technologies, Inc. Intel Pro Share WebCam
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10:22<Aleric>Is there some repository somewhere with all linux-source-* .deb's ?
10:22<Aleric>Also the old ones ;)
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10:25<bma>Aleric, yes. snapshot.debian.net
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10:38<Woet>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
10:38<Woet>make: *** [services] Error 1
10:38<Woet>/usr/bin/ld: cannot open output file services: Is a directory
10:38<Woet>how to fix those?
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10:40<Woet>or how to install gmake?
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10:41<azeem>15:59 < azeem> Woet: why don't you install one of the irc server .debs
10:42<Woet>this is for anope services.
10:42<azeem>anope?
10:42<sunnis>hello
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10:42<Woet>services like chanserv, nickserv
10:42<azeem>did you research whether that is unavailable as a Debian package?
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10:43<Woet>You have searched for pakketten that names contain anope in suite(s) stable, alle secties, and alle platformen.
10:43<Woet>Sorry, your search gave no results
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10:43<azeem>Woet: so anope is the only implementation of services?
10:44<Woet>so, if i get one error, i need to immediatly search for other software?
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10:45<bma>Woet, apt-cache search irc services returns about 20 results, do none of them work?
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10:46<Woet>I dont know how you guys work, but im not switching every minute of software if i encounter 1 error
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10:47<kop>Cool. I just discovered the gosa LDAP front-end.
10:47<azeem>Woet: the baseline is that you seem to be unable to build software from source, so you should look for binary pacakges
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10:48<bma>Woet, why that package and not some other that you can actually make work?
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10:48<bma>Does it do something that none of the others do?
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10:49<lupine>oh dear
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11:10<Wi_Fi>guys i have wireless running and had it connected to AP ,.. did a reboot and wireless is using a different ESSID
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11:11<Wi_Fi>not reading interfaces file
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11:15<kop>Wi_Fi: Check /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules I'm just guessing there's relevance.
11:17<Dennis_dm431>can someone help with canon printer problems?
11:18<Wi_Fi>Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A)
11:18<Wi_Fi>i see that on ifup wlan0
11:20<Wi_Fi>kop what am i lookin for
11:20<Wi_Fi>2 entrys
11:20<Dennis_dm431>I'm new to IRC Where can I find a list of topics?
11:20<Wi_Fi>one for etho an one for wlan
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11:21<pumpkin0>Dennis_dm431: change servers to Freenode and join that debian channel. Way more people.
11:21<Dennis_dm431>thanks
11:21<pumpkin0>Wi_Fi: did you set the ESSID in your interfaces-config ?
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11:24<Wi_Fi>in interfaces ...yes
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11:25<Wi_Fi>i connected once already before i rebooted
11:25<Wi_Fi>was hoping it would reconnect upon rebooting so i can get rid of eth0
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11:27<Wi_Fi>wireless_mode managed
11:27<Wi_Fi>#wireless_channel 1 # optional
11:27<Wi_Fi>wireless_essid van eeckhoutte's # change to your essid
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11:30<Woet>how to look what software uses what network ports?
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11:31<Wi_Fi>netstat
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11:31<voraistos>Hi. have you ever heard of dell media direct ?
11:32<voraistos>it is some sort of basic OS that boots super fast and plays music
11:32<kapil>Woet: netstat -pan
11:32<voraistos>-and possibly videos-
11:32<voraistos>i was wondering if there was anything like that, but free
11:32<voraistos>-and based on linux :)-
11:33<voraistos>i guess a system similar to the debian installer -using fbdev- would work
11:33<lupine>voraistos: $random_linux_distribution + media stuff
11:33<lupine>if you want ultra-fast boot, then maybe go for linuxbois
11:33<lupine>linuxbios*
11:33<voraistos>thats not what i want :)
11:34<kop>voraistos : + replacing the bios + (maybe) the kernel hibernate patch.
11:34<voraistos>and linux bios requires a compatible bios
11:34<lupine>it requires compatible hardware :)
11:34<GhostlyDeath>it requires you to flash your BIOS
11:34<voraistos>hmm yeah but you need a compatible flashable bios
11:35<voraistos>you can buy one and install it on your compatible mobo
11:35<GhostlyDeath>and compatible flashable bios hardware
11:35<voraistos>except i have a dell laptop :(
11:35<GhostlyDeath>I have an eMahcines Desktop
11:35<GhostlyDeath>for $400 it can play Doom 3 really good
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11:36<voraistos>i dont know emachines very well
11:36<voraistos>but the point is: is there a super basic os that just launches some mplayer front-end on fbdev ?
11:37<Xenguy>!pastebin
11:37<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
11:37<GhostlyDeath>Xenguy: where did that come from?
11:37*Xenguy types in the wrong channel yet again (sigh)...
11:37<GhostlyDeath>I could do a !selftell on you!
11:37<Xenguy>GhostlyDeath: did you ever have one of those days?
11:37<kop>voraistos : Why not just install a minimal debian and launch your app from inittab?
11:37<lupine>voraistos: kernel (args) init=mycustomscript
11:37<GhostlyDeath>Xenguy: yes
11:38<voraistos>lupine, kop, i could do that...
11:38<voraistos>i know how to mess with grub and basic boot stuff
11:39<voraistos>however i guess there is no app like an mplayer front-end
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11:39<voraistos>that could run full screen
11:39<voraistos>my programming skills are extremely poor.
11:40<lupine>load up a basic X session
11:40<voraistos>nah
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11:40<voraistos>thats too heavy already
11:40<lupine>I wouldn't say so
11:40<Wi_Fi>guys ..i needs help with ma wireless
11:40<voraistos> i would
11:40<bma>voraistos, you could use mpd and a console client?
11:40<kop>voraistos : Sorta all it'd take is 'startx xine" or some such.
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11:41<voraistos>linux + x is extremely heavy, even when using tiny X, fbdev and just lightweight stuff in general
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11:41<voraistos>bma, whats mpd ?
11:41<voraistos>mplayer daemon ?
11:41<bma>music-player daemon
11:41<voraistos>shit lol
11:41<voraistos>i almost guessed it right :)
11:41<bma>(not mplayer, but it'll work fine if you just want audio)
11:42<voraistos>nice ill check that thing out
11:42<twiggymls>good morning all
11:42<twiggymls>im really really new with debian
11:42<lupine>X is modular these days, you know :)
11:42<twiggymls>can someone please recommend me a good manual or tutorial to get me start??
11:43<voraistos>lupine: i know
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11:44<voraistos>lupine: i tried making very lightweight desktops before -and using the distros already out there- but it is just not enough
11:44<Xenguy>twiggymls: just google 'debian tutorial'
11:44<voraistos>i find that windows is actually better nowadays on old hardware
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11:45<voraistos>-i installed TinyXp on a thin client: 200mhz and 128mb ram-
11:45<twiggymls>k Xenguy, thanks
11:45<voraistos>the thing worked better than any distro i tried.
11:45<bma>voraistos, depends what you mean by "better" ;)
11:45<tiago>hey there
11:45<cahoot>twiggymls: can start here: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/
11:46<tiago>some apps are not recognizing special characters.
11:46<tiago>can anyone help me?
11:46<voraistos>bma: well, i didnt attempt to install an antivirus or any other anti-thing, but out of the box it was running quite nicely.
11:46<Xenguy>twiggymls: here's one: http://linux-cd.com.ar/manuales/debian-tutorial/ch-about.html
11:46<tiago>I can't remember where I change that
11:46<Wi_Fi>hey should ifconfig show wlan0 as ethernet?
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11:46<cahoot>depends on the chipset/driver
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11:47<voraistos>bma: the graphics were actually good, accelerated, not jerky. unlike any Xsever config i tried :(
11:47<twiggymls>thank you so much... cahoot and Xenguy
11:47<twiggymls>time to read now........
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11:47<bma>I've never tried running X on low-spec machines, I suppose.
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11:48<hellues>hey
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11:48<bma>X11 is just an easy way of getting lots of terminals...
11:48<hellues>i have a serious problem
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11:48<Xenguy>twiggymls: yw, have fun
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11:48<voraistos>bma: i once tried to run ltsp on that thing -as a client-. it couldnt handle X over ssh. (because of the encryption :O )
11:48<hellues>when i change owner of /dev/nvidiactl and execute compiz work fine but i restart my computer or Xserver owner of /dev/nvidiactl change automaticly
11:49<hellues>and compiz doesnt work fine
11:49<hellues>what can i do
11:49<bma>voraistos, then don't use X? ;)
11:49<voraistos>bma: well, bash is great, but...
11:49<bma>hellues, you can change /etc/udev/* to set permissions automatically
11:49<hellues>hmm
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11:50<tiago>some apps are not recognizing special characters.
11:50<tiago>[16:46] <tiago> can anyone help me?
11:50<bma>tiago, what apps and what special characters?
11:51<hellues>normally /dev/nvidiactl is owned by root i chang own of this file by using chown hellues /dev/nvidiactl
11:51<hellues>then execute compiz
11:51<hellues>compiz works fine
11:51<voraistos>probably apps that dont work with utf-8 or $insertStrangeAsianLocaleHere
11:51<hellues>but if i restarted my computer or X again file is owned by root
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11:52<kapil>bma, voraistos, depends on what one calls "low end specs". can recall running X on a 386 with 4mb ram. did just fine.
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11:52<tiago>bma, konqueror for example
11:52<voraistos>4mb of ram on a 386 is quite a lot :P
11:52<hellues>any suggestion
11:52<tiago>special characters like é, è
11:52<tiago>stuff like that
11:52<hellues>because of that my direct rendering does work and compiz doesnt work fine
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11:53<mauri>i tried to add #kde in irc but it said that im not CHANOP why
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11:54<bma>hellues, configure udev to set the owner automatically, or to make it world-writeable.
11:54<hellues>bma,
11:54<lupine>I remember well the days of K6-2 233MHz and 32MB RAM
11:54<hellues>i am beginner in debian
11:54<hellues>what must i do
11:54<hellues>to do it
11:54<lupine>hellues: it should be in the group "video"
11:54<hellues>yeah
11:54<lupine>so add your user to that group
11:54<hellues>owner root group video
11:54<voraistos>tiago i am sure you have a utf-8 related problem, or you usually use the european locale -dont remember the code. -it ends with 2 or 11 i think for portugal-. i guess you have to make sure you input in those progs with the right locale
11:55<hellues>adduse hellues video
11:55<lupine>only root should own files in /dev, as a general rule
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11:55<tiago>voraistos
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11:55<tiago>how do I do that?
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11:56<mauri>samoeone can help me whit irc
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11:56<hellues>ok
11:56<voraistos>tiago: i have no idea. I wished i could help more. But i am quite sure this is what you should investigate.
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11:56<hellues>i am adding my username to video
11:56<hellues>what am i dont now
11:56<hellues>doing*
11:56<tiago>ok, thanks anyway;)
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11:58<hellues>oki
11:58<hellues>it works i guess
11:58<hellues>by the way
11:58<hellues>where is the compiz sttings for home
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12:02<Wi_Fi>guys can i have both eth0 and wlan0 up?
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12:03<Evo>hello
12:03<Evo>would this be the place to ask for help?
12:04<bma>Wi_Fi, yes.
12:04<cahoot>if it concerns debian yes
12:04<Evo>im a noob obviously, so lets get that outta the way :p
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12:04<Evo>but im looking to download nmap and install via command line
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12:05<Wi_Fi>they are both in interface config file and has ssid set there too but erros out on gettin dhcp
12:05<Evo>googling right now but may need some help
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12:05<cahoot>if it concerns debian - the method is aptitude install <app> - evo
12:05<Evo>aptitude couldnt find nmap
12:07<Xenguy>!tell Evo about sources.list
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12:09<Evo>thanks, what would i add to sources.list?
12:09<Evo>cool. ran apt-get update, now its finding and downloading
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12:13<Xenguy>Evo: excellent :-)
12:14<Evo>:D
12:14<Evo>this is my first debian install. aptitude is nice!
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12:15<Wi_Fi>weird
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12:15<Wi_Fi>this is from iwconfig
12:15<Wi_Fi>wlan0 IEEE 802.11b+/g+ ESSID:off/any Nickname:"acx v0.3.35"
12:16-!-mentor is now known as Guest248
12:16<Wi_Fi>and i have essid set in interface
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12:25<Wi_Fi>. /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/linux-wlan-ng-pre-up exited with return code 1
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12:27<saber>hi
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12:30<MegaTher1>any1 know a guide to how to get ur new kernel to boot with the new libata driver (keep getting a kernel panic - unable to locate root partition)
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12:30<cahoot>locate on sd* instead of hd* now?
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12:31<cahoot>the boot device located on sd* instead of hd* now? MegaTher1
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12:31<cahoot>s/boot/root/
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12:33<Wi_Fi>gsimmons_ ya here
12:34<MegaTher1>oh
12:34<MegaTher1>ill try
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12:38<Wi_Fi>damn
12:38<Wi_Fi>fixed it
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12:39<Wi_Fi>what file is being read when rebooting for bringin up network cards
12:39<MegaTher1>Now it just idle at Loading, Please wait (using grub) not sure if I have to get a new device.map for grub hm
12:39<simonrvn>Wi_Fi: /msg dpkg interfaces
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12:40<Wi_Fi>if i reboot my wireless is reading another file for config
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12:50<titocaldo>alguem fala portugues
12:51<bma>!pt
12:51<dpkg>Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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13:22<Belisarivs>hi all
13:22<Belisarivs> have minor problem.
13:23<Belisarivs>when turning my pc off, I get message "Killing remaining processes failure"
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13:23<Belisarivs>teerminating is OK, but it cannot kill some process
13:23<Belisarivs>whereI can find more info?
13:23<Belisarivs>in which log?
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13:26<debacle>Hi all, i'd like tu run a bash script at boot-time. how can i do this ?
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13:27<debacle>Hi all, i'd like to run a bash script at boot-time. how can i do this ?
13:27<Belisarivs>create that script, put it to /etc/init.d
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13:28<debacle>do i have to use update-rc.d or similar commands?
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13:28<Belisarivs>Hm, you must enable it by rcconf.
13:28<MegaTher1>mkinitramfs is the new mkinitrd ?
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13:29<debacle>i do not know. ho can i check ?
13:29<Belisarivs>I guess so
13:29<Belisarivs>it creates initrd
13:30<Belisarivs>update-rc.d might work, too. But rcconf is easier to use.
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13:31<franklin>debacle, you could also use /etc/rc.local YMMV
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13:31<debacle>ok ... so i'll give a look at rcconf/update-rc.d manpages. thanks for pointing me to the right way
13:32<Belisarivs>rcconf is simple
13:32<debacle>franklin, the question is how to enable it. if the script is in /etc/rc.local will be auto-executed on boot
13:32<Belisarivs>just run it
13:33<debacle>ok !
13:34<Belisarivs>But you must have that script in /etc/init.d already
13:34<franklin>debacle, /etc/rc.local is ran by S99rc.local
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13:36<thomasgruebler>hallo
13:36<thomasgruebler>or hello
13:36<thomasgruebler>what should i do so that a fat32 partition is writeable for standart user, not only root
13:36<debacle>I have another question for you. I've apt-get install-ed many packages, in my knowledge my debian box has still a copy of all .deb files somewhere....
13:37<thomasgruebler>i dont want to chmod all. this also doesn't work really good
13:37<Torsten_W>thomasgruebler: umask=000 as mount option
13:37<thomasgruebler>thanks
13:37<Torsten_W>thomasgruebler: chmod does not work at vfat
13:37<debacle>... i need some space now... how can i delete unused .deb files ?
13:37<Torsten_W>debacle: apt-get clean
13:37<gpm>debacle: apt-get clean
13:37<thomasgruebler>erm
13:37<thomasgruebler>it is already umask=000
13:38<Belisarivs>/dev/hdaX /mount/point vfat umask=111,dmask=000,uid=100,gid=102,auto,rw,nouser,quiet 0 0
13:38<Torsten_W>thomasgruebler: show the line from the fstab
13:38<lupine>!vfatrw
13:38<dpkg>To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id"
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13:38<thomasgruebler>but the owner of a folder is root
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13:38<debacle>gpm: thanks
13:38<thomasgruebler>thanks
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13:40<Belisarivs>running apt-get autoclean deletes only old packages, might help, too
13:40<thomasgruebler>currently i'm using: ""#/dev/disk/by-uuid/471E-28C8 /media/daten vfat auto,users,exec,shortname=lower,quiet,umask=000,utf8 0 0"""
13:40<thomasgruebler>lupine: you thing has some options less
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13:41<lupine>you see the # at the beginning?
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13:41<lupine>that means it's commented out
13:41<thomasgruebler>yes
13:41<thomasgruebler>my backup
13:41<thomasgruebler>i took a backup before i overwrite it
13:42<thomasgruebler>so dont care of the #
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13:42<thomasgruebler>but it doesnt work now
13:42<Belisarivs> when turning my pc off, I get message "Killing remaining processes failure"
13:42<Belisarivs>terminating is OK, but it cannot kill some proces
13:42-!-hermit [~hermit@74-47-73-156.br1.blfd.wv.frontiernet.net] has quit []
13:42<Belisarivs>where might problem lie.
13:42<thomasgruebler>!!/dev/disk/by-uuid/471E-28C8 /media/daten vfat defaults,uid=thomasgruebler,gid=users,umask=002 0 0
13:42<Belisarivs>how can i track it
13:42<thomasgruebler>this i'm using now
13:42<Belisarivs>in which log?
13:42<Belisarivs>any ideas?
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13:44<thomasgruebler>lupine: any ideas?
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13:46<clubik>hello guys... i am quite lost... someone with time pls help... my ssh is not running on debian etch... it worked quite long time but now its dead
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13:48<Susan1982>hi all, can someone help me? I am trying to play radio streams, however xmms, and other player just freeze and disconnect. any suggestions please? thanks
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13:49*fxiny is watching Control : playing transmission ...
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13:52<fxiny>Susan1982: changing url can help
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13:54<franklin>clubik, "dead"... what's the problem ? is the daemon running, etc..
13:54<gpm>clubik: /etc/init.d/sshd restart ?
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13:58<norbert_>ehm hi, does anyone know whether it's possible to insert all colors in X? (for example, black becomes white)
13:59<franklin>norbert_, for Xterminal ?
13:59<norbert_>nope, the entire interface, everything... ;-)
13:59<franklin>norbert_, use another theme for Gnome
14:00<norbert_>well, that's not going to be enough, since applications will still have their own canvases and things
14:00<gpm>norbert_: i know compiz has a plugin that can do that
14:00<clubik>i tried restart sshd
14:00<clubik>its running
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14:00<clubik>but i cannot connect
14:00<clubik>it worked
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14:00<clubik>i justed changed root passwd and than... KO
14:01<norbert_>gpm: ok, I've tried Compiz, but never to do this... I'll give it a try again, thanks
14:02<franklin>clubik, any interesting message in /var/log/{syslog,auth}
14:02<clubik>nope...
14:03<clubik>it looks like sshd is rejecting it but no message anywhere
14:03<clubik>or like its being blocked by something, but i dunno... it worked...
14:03<paco>hi all, what is debian/emacsen-startup.ex for? I couldnt find a documentation for that file.
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14:04<fxiny>clubik: /var/log/daemon.log
14:05<clubik>nothing about sshd there
14:06<franklin>clubik, you can stop ssh service, then run "/usr/sbin/sshd -d" from a spare terminal, for debug mode
14:06<franklin>clubik, but before, did you tweak /etc/ssh/sshd.config or /etc/pam.d/* ?
14:07<clubik>sshd.config yeah
14:07<clubik>pam.d nope whats it?
14:07<fxiny>oh yes : is auth.log
14:07<clubik>just Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 7776 (which i want)
14:08<clubik>(and worked)
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14:09<clubik>etc/pam.d/ looks OK
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14:09<franklin>clubik, pam is the modular authentication system.
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14:12<clubik>is there some way how to remove ssh absolutely? with configs? to install it clean?
14:13<franklin>clubik, aptitude purge ...
14:13<fxiny>try renaming all known_hosts
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14:14<fxiny> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
14:15<franklin>fxiny, wouldn't ssh alert of incorrect key ?
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14:15<fxiny>franklin: yes
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14:15<clubik>after purge and install... still not working... putty returns: Server unexpectedly closed network connection
14:16<fxiny>dunno why changing root pass affect ssh
14:16<TiaGu>I restarted my whole network and ssh / apache stopped work out of the net so that working within the network ... Anyone know why?
14:16<clubik>i'll have a look to known_hosts
14:16<fxiny>it never happened to me
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14:17<franklin>clubik, can you ssh from the server to the server (i.e without putty ;)
14:17<TiaGu>I restarted my whole network and ssh / apache stopped work out of the net so that working within the network ... Anyone know why?
14:17<clubik>franklin: like ssh localhost?
14:18<clubik>Connection closed by remote host
14:18<fxiny>you cannot
14:18<TiaGu>I restarted my whole network and ssh / apache stopped work out of the net so that working within the network ... Anyone know why?
14:18<OdyX>TiaGu: "restarted" ?
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14:20<franklin>clubik, Now, you can try to stop ssh service, then run "/usr/sbin/sshd -d" from a spare terminal, for debug mode, then try to connect
14:20<TiaGu>OdyX Disconnected and then when called again not to get ssh out of the net
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14:21<TiaGu>OdyX Its return settings for a certain day and a certain time?
14:22<clubik>franklin: Connection refused by tcp wrapper
14:22<clubik>wtf?
14:22<TiaGu>Its return settings for a certain day and a certain time?
14:22<TiaGu>Its return settings for a certain day and a certain time??
14:22<TiaGu>Its return settings for a certain day and a certain time??
14:23<franklin>clubik, did you play with /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} files ;)
14:23<Lynoure>TiaGu: it's not like people did not hear you... more like needed rephrasing, maybe
14:24<gpm>clubik: try telnetting port 22
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14:24<clubik>franklin: nope...
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14:25<franklin>clubik, both of them should be empty (except #comments)
14:25<clubik>ok i will do this
14:26<franklin>clubik, if i remember correctly debian defult
14:26<clubik>strange
14:26<Lynoure>TiaGu: first check that there was no firewall changes, outside or inside your system. Are your services still listening?
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14:26<clubik>there really is a line in DENY
14:26<clubik>and not only one
14:26<TiaGu>Its return settings for a certain day and a certain time??
14:26<clubik>with ALL
14:26<clubik>deny all... sshd... done... thank you very much bro
14:27<matt1606>hi, anyone who had successfully updated their iwlwifi drivers on linux-2.6.24?
14:27<clubik>:-)
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14:29<franklin>matt1606, I think i used it successfully (not absolutely sure, i switch back to 2.6.22)
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14:29<cahoot>matt1606: why would one, the version included is faulty?
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14:29<matt1606>franklin, yes on 2.6.22 it worked
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14:30<matt1606>franklin: i want to compile it with LED patch
14:31<franklin>matt1606, LED patch ?
14:31<matt1606>franklin: the LED isn't working with current build
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14:31<franklin>matt1606, thx
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14:31<matt1606>franklin: this feature isn't implemented in the oryginal source
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14:38<franklin>matt1606, from my syslog, yes I used iwl3945 with 2.6.24-1-686 (Debian 2.6.24-2)
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14:38<matt1606>franklin: there is a version of iwl3945 that comes with the kernel
14:39-!-mode/#debian [+l 350] by debhelper
14:39<matt1606>franklin: it was built in feature from 2.6.23
14:40<franklin>matt1606, yes, I use debian plain kernel & modules.
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14:43<silent>is there a linux command to list running servers/daemons?
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14:46<bma>silent, netstat -nlp --inet
14:47<bma>(Or some other combination of options.)
14:47<franklin>silent, I'm not aware of any, but every process not ran by "you" is probably a daemon. It might not be your question.
14:47<OdyX>silent: (h)top, ps
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14:48<franklin>silent, ... especially it the process isn't attached to a TTY.
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14:48<franklin>silent, does it help ?
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14:49<zepard>hi people
14:50<zepard>is there somebody who has a dell optiplex gx110 to guide me on bios on a headless pc
14:51<silent>I'll try those, thanks guys
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14:51<zepard>:(
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15:07<Claudy>!nvidia
15:07<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder.
15:11<Claudy>:)
15:11<Claudy>!ati
15:11<dpkg>Want to use a newer ATI videocard in sarge? for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz Try to avoid using ati's stuff directy unless you have to. --- I've heard the driver control panel app needs 32bit libs to compile under 64b, or chris.evenden@amd.com, or and open specs announced 2007-09-05 or ask about <radeonhd>
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15:24<Hate29>How can I make a command that runs when I type it in "run" box (started with alt+f2)?
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15:26<Lynoure>Hate29: any command in the path will, or if you specify a path for it, anything at all that you have +x permissions for
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15:26<Torsten_W>Hate29: put your "command" in $PATH
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15:28<Hate29>Ok, I try. thx
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15:30<octoserver>has anyone used th new kmenu with tabs on the bottom and stuff slides from left to right ?
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15:36<nightfever>hello people
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15:40<Claudy>heya nightfever
15:41<nightfever>i have some problems with debian...
15:41-!-pajek [~pajek@59.130.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #debian
15:41<nightfever>tried to boot from the first install dvd, first cd and the netinst cd
15:42<nightfever>but none of them seem to be bootable
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15:42<nightfever>the bios settings are good
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15:42<Lynoure>nightfever: and they are the right architecture?
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15:42<nightfever>well tried the alpha...
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15:43<nxvl>is there any problem with the libc6 upgrade from etch to sid?
15:44<nightfever>hm yeah think i should've tried the i386
15:44<Lynoure>nightfever: and your alpha is on the list http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/sys_types ? (this is probably all I can say, never even used alpha myself)
15:45<nightfever>no i think it's in i386
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15:46<nightfever>heh what a noob am i :))
15:46<Lynoure>nightfever: then that's probably the reason why it does not boot...
15:46<nightfever>yeah i'll try the i386 cd ...i only need the first cd to install?
15:46<Lynoure>nightfever: nah, I went into ia64 ("Intel Architecture 64 bit, right?") trap once myself :)
15:47<Lynoure>nightfever: the net install cd is usually the best route, if you have non-horrible network
15:47<octoserver>my wondows move very smoothly in KDE no, as opposed to in gnome, I wonder why?
15:48<bma>nxvl, I had trouble earlier today. Try upgrading to testing first, then unstable.
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15:48<Hamlet>hallo :-)
15:48<nxvl>bma: i'm trying the same now
15:48<nightfever>and from the netinst cd, i need to make any other configurations? such as server? for example, i want to download it from a Romanian server
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15:49<Lynoure>nightfever: it'll prompt for all that
15:49<nightfever>oh great
15:49<Hamlet>can anyone help me out with a driver for the HD2600TX for Debian Etch, please?
15:49<Lynoure>nightfever: :)
15:49<nightfever>well i'll give it a try...thanks for your help!!
15:49<Hamlet>in an amd64 environment
15:49<alik>Hi. Is anybody using compiz-fusion with KDE?
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15:50<Hamlet>the thing is, I installed the driver by ATI and it configured alright, only my screen stayed black after I rebooted
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15:51<Hamlet>I'm not, alik sorry
15:51<alik>=(
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15:51<alik>I have a some problem with compiz
15:51<alik>The desktop not redraws
15:52<alik>while i not rotate cube or move some windows
15:52<Hamlet>I'm using gnome, not KDE
15:52<alik>on xfce same trouble
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15:53<nxvl>bma: that works for me
15:54<nxvl>bma: i updated only libc6 from testing and then to sid and it works!
15:55<maspix>hi, I am trying to setup a system with 3 SATA drives but I can only seem to detect the first drive
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15:56<Hamlet>can someone help me please
15:57<Hamlet>My problem is a driver that is not working correctly
15:57<maspix>and in continuation to my problem, my BIOS detects all three drives so I am just really confused on how I should try to detect the other drives
15:57<alik>Hamlet: any errors in log?
15:57<Hamlet>which log, alik?
15:58<alik>Hamlet, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
15:58<Hamlet>mom
15:59<Hamlet>no
15:59<Hamlet>no errors
15:59<Hamlet>the file is empty ;-)
16:00<alik>with vesa all ok?
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16:00<Hamlet>hmm, I think so
16:01<Hamlet>the problems began when I let aticonfig configure my xorg.conf
16:01<alik>look for xorg.conf.backup or something like this )
16:01<Hamlet>then I rebooted and upon next startup, all I got was a blank sceen
16:01<Hamlet>I already restored the original xorg.conf
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16:02<Hamlet>I works now, only it doesn't take advantage of my cute new graphics card
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16:03<alik>ATI allways have troubles with drivers, so i migrate on nvidia )
16:03<Hamlet>hmmm
16:03<Hamlet>but I like my HD2600XT
16:03<Hamlet>;-)
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16:06<alik>Sorry, Hamlet, no ideas (
16:06<Hamlet>no problem :-)
16:07<Hamlet>thanks anyway
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16:09<voraistos>hi.
16:09<voraistos>i need to modify a deb package
16:09<voraistos>because of some weird dep.
16:09<voraistos>i tried to open the .deb and make the right changes, but it bitches when i want to save :P
16:10<OdyX>voraistos: apt-get source ...
16:10<OdyX>voraistos: try to google about "rebuild Debian package"..
16:10<voraistos>yeah thats more like it :)
16:11<OdyX>voraistos: you first have to download the source, make the needed changes and then rebuild it for your arch..
16:11<voraistos>hmm no
16:11<voraistos>i shouldnt need it
16:12<voraistos>its just the name for commoncpp that is wrong
16:12<OdyX>Official Debian Package ?
16:12<voraistos>noo
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16:12<voraistos>i wouldnt do that on an official package :P
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16:13<voraistos>i know that nothing on my system depends on commoncpp -because i just installed it manually-
16:13<voraistos>so i am sure not to break anything
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16:13<voraistos>at worst, my app just wouldnt work :)
16:15<voraistos>hmm
16:15<voraistos>"rebuild" actually means recompile the entire app
16:15<voraistos>thats not what i want
16:15<voraistos>its only the config file that sucks
16:16<OdyX>voraistos: I can't help you more.
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16:16<OdyX>voraistos: you 'could' try in *-devel, but I can't recommend that ;-)
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16:18<voraistos>im going to be moaned at ? :P
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16:20<bcochofel>Hi, I'm trying to setup iptables on my pc and I've read about arno-iptables-firewall.
16:20<bcochofel>Is this a good way to setup iptables?
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16:20<voraistos>hey you know what, i never think about it, but there has to be a way to bypass warnin gs and such an force pkg install
16:21*voraistos mans dpkg
16:22*voraistos --forces things
16:23<maspix>I'm still having trouble with these sata drives and google isn't helping. It says in /var/log/messages that the ata2: SATA link down but I don't even see anything for the third drive which I am guessing should be ata3
16:25<maspix>does anyone have any ideas?
16:25<voraistos>hmm check the physical link ?
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16:26<maspix>I reset the plugs, and the BIOS is picking up all three drices
16:26<maspix>*drives
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16:26<voraistos>:( cant help, sorry
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16:27<maspix>Yeah I don't know either, /dev/disk/by-id only shows the first SATA drive
16:27<RobT>Hello there!
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16:28<maspix>Does anyone think it is because I tried to use LVM?
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16:29<RobT>problems with my wireless board!
16:30<RobT>does anyone can help me?
16:30<RobT>:9
16:30<RobT>:)
16:30<lupine>RobT: what chipset?
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16:30<RobT>Broadcom 802.11 b/g
16:30<RobT>I have a compaq c708la
16:30<lupine>you can probably use bcm43xx
16:31<lupine>!bcm43xx
16:31<dpkg>bcm43xx is a driver for Broadcom's wireless chipsets (http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/) included in kernels since 2.6.17-rc2, "modprobe bcm43xx" in Etch. Firmware required to be loaded before operation, ask me about <bcm43xx-fwcutter>. Replaced with <b43legacy> in kernels 2.6.24 and later. USB devices are not supported.
16:31<RobT>I can't configure the board
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16:31<lupine>have you done the firmware?
16:31<RobT>I'm not an expert on debian, I've just installed on my laptop
16:32<lupine>!bcm43xx-fwcutter
16:32<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, bcm43xx-fwcutter is a tool to extract firmware from Broadcom's proprietary drivers for the <bcm43xx> driver. Installing the 'bcm43xx-fwcutter' <contrib> package will optionally download, extract and install driver firmware to /lib/firmware (this won't work on Etch, see bug #437488 and ask about <bcm43xx-fwcutter etch> for the manual procedure).
16:32<lupine>!bcm43xx-fwcutter etch
16:32<dpkg>"apt-get --purge remove bcm43xx-fwcutter ; apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter". Reply 'No' when asked to fetch and install firmware. "wget http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o && bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o && rm wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o". Version 3 firmware for the bcm43xx driver is now installed.
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16:32<lupine>you need to do that to get the bcm43xx module functional
16:32<RobT>ok
16:32<RobT>i'll try that
16:32<RobT>because I found this on the internet
16:32<RobT>http://nouselinux.blogspot.com/2008/02/broadcom-80211-bg-en-debian-40-etch.html
16:33<RobT>I'm from chile so that's why is in spanish xD
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16:33<RobT>and tried but it didn't work
16:33<lupine>ndiswrapper is not the best way to get your cards working
16:33<RobT>that's what i find everywhere on google
16:33<lupine>and anyway, it won't work if the bcm43xx module is loaded
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16:34<RobT>ok i'll try to do what you said
16:34<lupine>(modprobe -r bcm43xx)
16:34<RobT>thanks a lot!
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16:34<maspix>Does anyone know if there is a manual way to probe for attached SATA devices? I am still having the problem that my BIOS reads them all fine but I just booted on the installation CD and then jumped into the console there and /dev/disk/by-id/ is a little strange
16:35<RobT>ahm another question, which is the best way to recover GRUB when windows erase it?
16:35<RobT>because tried what it says on debian.org
16:35<RobT>but it didn't work
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16:36<witte>!fixmbr
16:36<dpkg>So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub"
16:36<RobT>thanks again!
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16:40<octoserver>anyone here good with mdadm ?
16:40<Ouroboros>how big is the default etch install (desktop + standard) ?
16:40<maspix>Okay, is it possible that you can't detect hard drives with identical id's?
16:41<shellclear>hi friends...
16:41<RobT>I forgot to ask, there is any way to configure my wirelles board on windows running on virtualbox?
16:41<RobT>"" is there any way????... sorry my bad english xD
16:42<octoserver>I have a question regaurding mdadm, is there someone that can help maybe?
16:42<OdyX>Ouroboros: Mine : / (286M) + /usr (5.3G) + /var (1.3G) + (little other things) = 7Gigs with _plenty_ of things installed
16:42<OdyX>octoserver: try ...
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16:42<OdyX>!ask
16:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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16:43<octoserver>ok
16:43<OdyX>RobT: Don't think so.
16:43<Ouroboros>OdyX: well yeah, i have one of those too, i am wondering more about the minimal X install
16:43<OdyX>minimal..
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16:43<OdyX>dunno
16:44<Ouroboros>minimal but also with minimal effor on my part heh
16:44<RobT>ok...
16:44<Ouroboros>i guess i will try it in a VM real quick
16:45<octoserver>well, I created 4 arrays that show up fine in mdstat, but when i do mdadm --examine --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf , I get an antry for an ARRAY /dev/md/0 that I think shouldnt be there
16:45<shellclear>some partitions ntfs are not mounting automatically during boot with ntfs-3 follow below mine /etc/fstab
16:45<shellclear>http://rafb.net/p/Oh9KY483.html
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16:45<Kebianizao>Hello
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16:46<Kebianizao>how do I know why an installing a package removes others?
16:46<octoserver>if i do mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md/0 , the info that shows up is for /dev/md0 ?
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16:47<Ouroboros>OdyX: looks like around 600 MB according to some forums... will have to try it though
16:47<shellclear>somebody could help me?
16:47<octoserver>well, it calls it md/0 , but the UUID is for md0
16:47<shellclear>some partitions ntfs are not mounting automatically during boot with ntfs-3 follow below mine /etc/fstab
16:47<shellclear>http://rafb.net/p/Oh9KY483.html
16:47<octoserver>anyone got any ideers
16:48<OdyX>Kebianizao: conflicts in packages..
16:48<Kebianizao>not sure, I want to advice this guy http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=439360
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16:49<shellclear>somebody could help me?
16:49<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: well, it might be a bug ?
16:50<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: you are running from unstable after all?
16:50<Kebianizao>well, for the moment it is :) I want to know where
16:50<Kebianizao>that's old bug, maybe it's solved, but if not, I'd like to know where the problem is
16:50<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: you want to modify the dependency file? not sure where that info is
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16:51<octoserver>when you do mdadm --examine --scan , what exactly is it looking at, the superblock of disks?
16:51<Kebianizao>no, what I need is telling him a method to get the info that explains why the removal is suggested
16:52<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: yeah, i dont know how that works, sorry
16:52<Kebianizao>thanks anyway Ouroboros .)
16:53<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: most likely when apt gets the package tarball, there is a file in there that lists the dependencies
16:54<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: actually no, since it gets that info earlier... so it must be in the apt lists?
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16:55<Kebianizao>Ouroboros: the depend info is updated with aptitude update, I know how to get it
16:55<Kebianizao>what I need is a command providing that info
16:55<Ouroboros>oooh
16:55<Ouroboros>Kebianizao: apt-cache show <package> ?
16:55<maspix>Okay, I'll back up then. I am trying to install etch using the netinst CD and I am trying to get rid of the LVM system on a hard disk
16:56<shellclear>some partitions ntfs are not mounting automatically during boot with ntfs-3 follow below mine /etc/fstab
16:56<shellclear>http://rafb.net/p/Oh9KY483.html
16:56<maspix>Is there anyway to just blast the drive clean so it stops detecting it
16:56<shellclear>somebody could help me?
16:56<Kebianizao>Ouroboros: ok, I'll try to manage. thanks :)
16:56<Ouroboros>maspix: you can always just zero it manually?
16:57<maspix>How would I do that?
16:57<maspix>Mount it from the install disk and then what?
16:57<octoserver>ok, it appears i have a superblock with madam information stuck in it but it is in a partition that doesnt appear to exist anymore? is there a way to delete all of the madam information on a disk?
16:57<Ouroboros>hm. i dont know from the install disk, but normally you can do something like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda"
16:58<witte>shellclear: do you get an error message, and are they mounting mounting ok manually?
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16:58<octoserver>crap, maybe its on my other disk arrrrrg
16:58<maspix>Ok, I'll try that Ouroboros
16:58<witte>shellclear: and is it always the same one that is not mounting (you only listed 2 ntfs partitions)
16:58<Ouroboros>maspix: be sure to use the correct disk device name of course
16:58<octoserver>if i zero superblock info on my swap partotion, will that mess it up ? lol
16:59<Ouroboros>maspix: and you probably only need to zero the beginning
16:59<octoserver>how do i turn the swap off ? swapoff /dev/sdb1 ?
17:00<Ouroboros>octoserver: yes, that will mess it up heh
17:00<maspix>I am still working on the initial installation of this system, but debian's installer doesn't seem to like that I have two disks with the same ID, but I will try zeroing
17:00<octoserver>Ouroboros: well, that will make it more fun i guess :)
17:00<Ouroboros>maspix: not sure about the LVM stuff, but if you have no data to lose, just zero everything first
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17:01<shellclear>what necessary and automatically to mount these partitions during boot so that the common usuario can it uses them, with the user root I mounts them well normally.
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17:03<shellclear>in this URL http://rafb.net/p/Oh9KY483.html contains mine /etc/fstab
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17:03<shellclear>witte, please....:)
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17:05<witte>shellclear: if you mount them as user, can you read/write then?
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17:06<shellclear>yes
17:06<shellclear>witte, later that I mount as root any user can write, more what it happens and that this not mounting during boot. a common user cannot mounts it... this and my problem.
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17:07<octoserver>yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
17:07<octoserver>mdadm rocks
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17:08<octoserver>i found that there was raid info showing up on another drive so i zeroed the superblock and it is gone wohooo
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17:08<shellclear>witte, this is mine /etc/fstab
17:08<shellclear>/dev/hda1 /media/hda/c ntfs-3g user,defaults,locale=pt_BR.UTF-8 0 0
17:08<witte>shellclear: i have seen your fstab
17:09<shellclear>http://rafb.net/p/Oh9KY483.html
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17:09<shellclear>enter this link
17:09<shellclear>opss..
17:09<shellclear>sorry my inglish
17:09<witte>shellclear: i am not so sure about the locale setting, but the rest seems ok
17:09<shellclear>:)
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17:10<witte>shellclear: when you mount the disk as a normal user, what error do you get?
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17:11<shellclear>error opening partition device : permission denied failed to mount '/dev/hda5':permission denied
17:11<shellclear>witte, error opening partition device : permission denied failed to mount '/dev/hda5':permission denied
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17:13<shellclear>this happens when click in the partition inside of gnome
17:13<shellclear>witte, some ideia?
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17:23<shellclear>??
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17:24<Woet>how to run something with nohup, without getting a nohup.out ?
17:24<Woet>is there a option to disable it logging everything to nohup.out ?
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17:38<zepard>hi people
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17:40<zepard>I will ask some dummy questions, my coworkers bothered me on the vmsplice bug on linux kernel
17:41<zepard>in http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1494 it is said : which allowed local attackers to... what is a local attacker in this context
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17:42<OdyX>zepard: any user connected to a non-upgraded Linux box
17:43<zepard>OdyX, local means logged in yes?
17:43<OdyX>"connected" meaning "able to launch any program".
17:43<OdyX>zepard: yeah.
17:43<zepard>OdyX, even in ssh or any other connection
17:44<OdyX>(locally connected through KDE; Gnome; ... or distantly, ssh, ...)
17:44<OdyX>zepard: yes.
17:44<OdyX>zepard: therefor, UPGRADE !
17:44<OdyX>;-)
17:44<zepard>I did, thx for explanation :)
17:44<OdyX>Good
17:45<zepard>I do every day
17:45<OdyX>reboot ?
17:45<zepard>:)
17:45<zepard>too
17:45<zepard>(laptop)
17:45<octoserver>is it normal for a dev to sometimes be called /dev/md/1 and also /dev/md1 ?
17:46<zepard>for memory it was discovered in february 9 and patched on etch in 11th yes?
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17:46<OdyX>octoserver: AFAIK, yes.
17:46<OdyX>:-)
17:46<maspix>md means a RAID, correct?
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17:46<OdyX>afaik yes
17:46<OdyX>;-)
17:47<octoserver>OdyX: thanks,
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17:47<maspix>This new internet I got is too fast, I don't even have time to go get a cup of coffee during the download and install phase. :(
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17:48<Evo>man, that must be terrible
17:48<Evo>:p
17:48<zepard>enough to see high quality tv shows ?
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17:49<zepard>are security patches concerning old stable debian?
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17:53<dondelelcaro>zepard: oldstable is still getting security fixes, but it won't continue for all that long.
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17:53<zepard>dondelelcaro, you mean until the new stable is released
17:56<zepard>OdyX, is there other types of atackers than local ones?
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17:57<zepard>OdyX, patch a running kernel doesn't avoid reboot yes?
17:57<OdyX>OdyX: reboot to updated kernel is the only real and efficient method
17:57<OdyX>.
17:57<OdyX>live-patching is risky
17:58<zepard>what do you mean by risky
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17:58<zepard>it can work but for sure?
17:58<zepard>sorry: it can work but NOT for sure?
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17:59<OdyX>zepard: depends... I _heard_ that some patches were disabling the door, but corrupting the memory...
17:59<OdyX>so this would lead your box to fail sooner or later...
17:59<zepard>hum
18:00<zepard>what to do then with a server case, to patch or not
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18:02<ravl>hello. I just updated the sun-java5-* packages to the newest versions available and it doesn't work anymore.
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18:04<ravl>tried uninstalling sun-jav5-* and installing sun-java6-* and got the same results. the java commands are linked to gcj and gij. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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18:05<bma>ravl, update-java-alternatives
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18:06<ravl>bma: "java -v" still gives me "gij: unrecognized option -v"
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18:08<red>is avahi a new addition to debian stable ?
18:08<red>was it in sarge?
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18:09<ravl>bma: "update-java-alternatives -l" only gives me one result, java-gcj
18:10<bma>That's odd. You've got all the sun-java6-* packages installed?
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18:11<bma>What happens if you run "update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun"
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18:14<ravl>bma: that linked the java commands to the java6, but "java -v" gave me "Unrecognized option: -v. Could not create the Java virtual machine"
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18:14<red>it seems that avahi wants to hijack my ethernet connection ... this is really annoying
18:15<ravl>bma: it worked with "java -version", Thanks!
18:15<red>I can disable this myself but it is really crap. I'm reading the docs but I still don't really understand what problem avahi solves??
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18:16<bma>red, I think it's avahi-autoipd that does it, it's pulled in as a recommendation by various things.
18:17<zepard>what is the common solution when you have to patch server and reboot, have a second server?
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18:20<red>bma: wjat
18:20<red>bma: yeah, I've managed to disable it. What's the deal with avahi??? What is it for?
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18:21<red>i.e. how does it make my life easier?
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18:21<Woet>when i input a command via Putty, it runs it fine
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18:21<bma>Well, it's supposed to do automatic service discovery and so on, but it's only useful if you have services to discover.
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18:22<Woet>running exactly the same commmand under the same user via ssh2_exec in PHP (www.php.net/ssh2_exec), fails
18:22<red>what is a service in this definition
18:22<Woet>anyone has any idea?
18:22<Aleric>If you wait long enough, the bugs go away by themselves... I just had a bug that I reported in Jul 2007 closed that way, and it's not the first time :/ "Closing since the initial complaint is addressed. The initial complaint was that libboost-serialization wasn't present in 'testing'. It now is, since testing is at version 1.34.1. The underlying cause, that 1.33.1 doesn't have libboost-serialization will not be addressed."
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18:22<bma>Any network service: a print server, for example.
18:22<Aleric>blah
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18:29<valdyn>red: serveral computers running avahi, networked would each assign ip addresses
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18:29<valdyn>red: that can be just what you dont want when you do use dhcp for instance
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18:33<valdyn>this is really common with macosx, i dont see it being used alot elsewhere, except itunes
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18:43<Kebianizao>bye
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19:15<phpnoob>anyone here good with php? :s
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19:20<red__>phpnoob: yeah, what's the go?
19:20<phpnoob>is pm okay?
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19:35<pedro>hello
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19:36<pedro>anyone know WebCleaner (http proxy filter), and if WebCleaner will reach the repos?
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19:48<Wi_Fi>hey gsimmons
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19:50<Ouroboros>how does the installer know what kind of system it is? e.g. on my laptop is offers the "Laptop" option but not the "Desktop environment" ?
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19:58<blarson>Ouroboros: It offers what's available. desktop doesn't fit on the first cd.
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19:58<mrteez>hello
19:59<mrteez>which file do i have to modify to execure modprobe ath-pci at boot
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19:59<Ouroboros>blarson: i used the same CD on another machine and it offered many more options
20:00<Ouroboros>blarson: is it possible that different mirrors offere different options?
20:01<blarson>Ouroboros: not all mirrors offer all architectures, and sometimes mirrors are broken.
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20:02<Ouroboros>blarson: i used mirrors.kernel.org
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20:02<Wi_Fi>need help with my intel webcam
20:03<Ouroboros>i guess i will try with another mirror
20:03<Ouroboros>currently it is stalled at 5% anyway... not sure whether that is normal
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20:06<witte>mrteez: echo ati_pci >> /etc/modules
20:06<witte>mrteez: maybe safer to use "" ==> echo "ati_pci" >> /etc/modules
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20:09<jaimealberto>Hello everybody!
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20:11<eto2>hiya
20:12<eto2>my box got rooted and I was wondering if anyone had a tip for a bootable cleanup disk
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20:12<jaimealberto>A few days ago I deleted a extended partition and my / and swap changed from sda6 and sda7 to sda5 and sda6
20:12<eto2>or at least investigation
20:13<jaimealberto>so I had to change fstab, mtab and reinstall grub, it is starting now but I can't make hibernate work again! can someone help me?
20:14<jaimealberto>I'm using kernel 2.6.22-3 in lenny
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20:16<jaimealberto>www.tuxonice.net's faq says that I should grep dmesg for Suspend2 or TuxOnIce ocurrences and I can't find any, does Debian kernels use Suspend2 or TuxOnIce?
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20:18<eto2>jaimealberto: I have had luck with suspend2
20:18<Ouroboros>blarson: actually, do the options depend on the amount of free space available?
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20:19<jaimealberto>All I know is that I was able to hibernate from gnome-power-manager and now I can't
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20:19<eto2>jaimealberto: I use 's2ram' from the command line
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20:20<Wi_Fi>heys guys
20:20<jaimealberto>but Does the Debian 2.6.22-3 kernel comes with suspend2 or tuxonice enabled?
20:20<Wi_Fi>my wireless works as long as i have cable in
20:20<lupine>that would, um, make it non-wireless
20:21<Wi_Fi>eth0 up and wireless stays up i disconnect cable and wireless goes too
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20:23<maelstrom>lol
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20:23<jaimealberto>eto2 but I want to suspend to disk
20:24<jaimealberto>eto2 which package did u installed for that?
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20:25<kapil>jaimealberto: the stock debian kernel does not have suspend2 or tuxonice. it has the default kernel interface for acpi sleep and suspend to disk.
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20:26<kapil>jaimealberto: install the acpi-support package for the scripts that are used to support these features.
20:27<jaimealberto>kapil, hibernate (suspend 2 disk) was working, and after a partitions rename it stopped. How can I find what is wrong?
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20:28<kapil>jaimealberto: in that case one possibility is that when you renamed partitions you forgot to correctly set the "resume" partition in grub.
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20:28<kapil>kapil: s/grub/kernel command line/
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20:29<jaimealberto>kapil: I just checked that, I didn't have any resume option enabled for my kernel
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20:30<kapil>the kernel command line should have something like resume=/dev/hda2 (where you replace hda2 with the partition that stores your suspended image --- usually your swap partition)
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20:31<jaimealberto>kapil: in the tuxonice I saw resume=swap:/dev/sda6 in my case, is it right?
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20:31<kapil>jaimealberto: of course, it is also possible that this is read by the newer initrd's from the config files. i haven't used that interface.
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20:32<jaimealberto>What I don't understand is how it was working without the resume option?
20:32<kapil>in my case it reads resume=/dev/mapper/swap.
20:32<jaimealberto>ok, kapil thanks, I'll try with the kernel option
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20:32<jaimealberto>kapil, which config files?
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20:33<kapil>there is some way to pass kernel options which are not for the kernel but for the initrd through files.
20:33<kapil>i don't know that interface.
20:33*kapil makes mental note to read docs for initramfs-tools
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20:34<jaimealberto>the initrd image is generated when the kernel is installed? maybe I should reinstall my kernel so debconf regenerates the initrd
20:35<kapil>jaimealberto: you *could* run 'grep -rl resume= /etc'. that may tell you. tell me the answer if you find out!
20:35<snaqo>does anybody know how to restore grub in the mbr using the debian cd?
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20:36<jaimealberto>snaqo, use the rescue mode, just enter 'rescue' in the grub input when you start from the cd
20:36<snaqo>interesting
20:36<snaqo>ill try that ;>
20:36<snaqo>thanks
20:37<jaimealberto>snaqo, it enters in rescue mode and asks for the root device and then gives you the option to reinstall grub
20:37<snaqo>debian sarge did not have this right?
20:37<jaimealberto>I think it did
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20:37<snaqo>hmm silly me ;p
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20:39<jaimealberto>other option, that rescue mode gives you, is to start a shell in that partition and then you can run: grub-install /dev/sda, or whichever is your hd device name
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20:41<kapil>jaimealberto: i found it! look in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/
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20:43<Hideo>how do I completely remove grub from a harddrive?
20:44<kapil>Hideo: install "mbr" and use it.
20:45<Hideo>I look into it, thanks
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20:46<jaimealberto>kapil, there it is! thanks!
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20:46<jaimealberto>i guess i must recreate the initrd image how do I do it?
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20:49<jaimealberto>should I use update-initramfs -u or update-initramfs -c ?
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20:50<witte>jaimealberto: i think -u would be the one
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20:51<jaimealberto>i have used -u, now I'll try and see if hibernate works again
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21:07<Hideo>I am doing a fresh install of debian on a hd which previously had debian on it
21:07<Hideo>it complains that Grub installation is failed
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21:07<Hideo>how should I fix this?
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21:13<mike1980>Hi there guys, I am running 'i8k force=1' in '/etc/modules' ... The problem is that the i8k force=1 command in /etc/modules is cuasing a volume box to open on kde start up. here is a screenhoot of it can anyone tell me witch program or deamon this voulme box is from http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/125/screenshotao0.png
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21:15<mike1980>!ik8
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21:16<Hideo>I dunno if somebody got my last message
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21:16<Hideo>my router disconnected me
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21:17<mike1980>Hi there guys, I am running 'i8k force=1' in '/etc/modules' ... The problem is that the i8k force=1 command in /etc/modules is cuasing a volume box to open on kde start up. here is a screenhoot of it can anyone tell me witch program or deamon this voulme box is from http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/125/screenshotao0.png
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21:17<malcom2073>I'm looking for a linux distro to use for an embedded system. Is it possible to remote driver support from debian and get it to boot to an X graphics system in under 15 seconds?
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21:19<Hideo>I am doing a fresh install of debian on a hd which had a previous debian installation and now it complains that grub can't be installed
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21:19<Hideo>how should I go about to fix this?
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21:20<mike1980>well this volume thing is driving me crazy
21:20<witte>Hideo: what is the exact error?
21:20<witte>mike1980: what is that i8k module? I do not seem to have it?
21:21<witte>mike1980: ah, it is not anymore in 2.6.24, it is in older kernels
21:21<mike1980>Witte: in controls Fans in a dell inspiron lappy
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21:22<mike1980>if I just new where this volume box was comming from I could remove the program or deamon causing it
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21:22<witte>is it only in kde, or in any wm?
21:22<Hideo>witte: "The 'grub' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot."
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21:23<mike1980>Witte: I have only seen it in KDE so far
21:23<witte>Hideo: in the "ncurses" interface?
21:23<Hideo>yes
21:23<witte>Hideo: try to go to console, and try to solve it there ==> ctrl-alt-F2
21:24<Hideo>how do I solve it there
21:24<matt___>Question? I'm used to using lilo and reciently switched to debian from slackware. Debian has generated a grub list with the options for my kernels to acpi=off. now that i have it working how can I update Grub. every time i boot my system now I have to edit the entry and type B
21:24<Hideo>witte: I am in console, what do I do?
21:25<dondelelcaro>matt___: edit /boot/grub/menu.list and change the kopt appropriately, then run update-grub
21:25<witte>Hideo: cd /target/;chroot .
21:25<matt___>Thanks! :D
21:26<witte>Hideo: next thing: "grub-install /dev/sda"
21:26<witte>Hideo: change /dev/sda according to your system
21:26<Hideo>ok, thank you
21:27<witte>Hideo: also have a look if /boot/grub/menu.lst is as you want it
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21:32<jaimealberto>kapil, it didn't worked
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21:35<kapil>jaimealberto: what happened?
21:36<jaimealberto>I ran update-initramfs -u, rebooted and it didn't worked
21:36<kapil>jaimealberto: check the contents of /sys/power/resume
21:37<jaimealberto>then I tried with update-initramfs -c, and nothing, then dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.22-3-amd64, and nothing
21:37<kapil>it should contain the major:minor of the resume device
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21:38<jaimealberto>then I added the resume option in grub and nothing
21:38<jaimealberto>it says 8:6
21:38<kapil>jaimealberto: 8:6 means that it is saving the suspend image to /dev/sda6
21:39<jaimealberto>that is the swap device
21:39<jaimealberto>but hibernate doesn't work
21:40<kapil>"doesn't work" is insufficient evidence! which step fails. suspend or resume?
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21:42<jaimealberto>it does like it is going to hibernate but nothing happens
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21:42<jaimealberto>it goes back to the screen locked dialog as I had resumed
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21:43<jaimealberto>and when I run s2disk says: suspend: Could not use the resume device (try swapon -a)
21:43<kapil>what are the contents of /sys/power/disk
21:43<jaimealberto>[platform] test testproc shutdown reboot
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21:44<kapil>forget what i last said. check whether the swap device is actually /dev/sda6 using "free" or "cat /proc/swaps"
21:45<d00d>anyone here know where the server files are stored for html and etc for apache2 ?
21:45<jaimealberto>yes, it is the swap device
21:45<amphi>jaimealberto: it should still have 'mem' or 'suspend' in there, IMHO
21:45<jaimealberto>/dev/sda6 partition 2980016 0 -1
21:45<kapil>amphi, jaimealberto, no. those values for /sys/power/disk look fine.
21:45<jaimealberto>that's in /proc/swaps
21:46<amphi>kapil: d'oh - I was thinking of /sys/power/state, sorry
21:46<jaimealberto>but free doesn't mention /dev/sda6
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21:47<kapil>that seems to say "s2disk" has some problems. if you are interested in debugging this further then 1. got to single user mode 2. login as root on console 3. run "echo -n disk > /sys/power/state".
21:48<kapil>after that it should suspend...and resume when you reboot.
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21:48<kapil>if it works, then the problem seems to be in the way "s2disk" is setup.
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21:49<jaimealberto>ok i'll try that
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21:53<Leonardo>#ubuntubrasil-orkut
21:53<amphi>Leonardo: pardon?
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21:55<Deva>Maybe reading the topic works better
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22:15<karunali>Hi I'm on a Apple iBook and I'm going to use the normal mouse button as right click and the tap click as normal click, is this possible ?
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22:18<kapil>karunali: and this is relevant to #debian because?
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22:20<dondelelcaro>karunali: it should be, yes.
22:20<karunali_>Because I'm using linux...
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22:20<dondelelcaro>karunali: though generally you just use the multi-finger tap support to handle multiple buttons
22:20<dondelelcaro>karunali: so three fingers is right, two is middle, and one is left.
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22:22<karunali_>I think so, but how? xmodmap with pointers won't help me. I can switch the tap only on and off with the trackpad tool. And I can do a rightclick config in /etc/default/mouseemu this 3 things are all I can do. But I can't set in mouseemu the right click to the normal click.
22:22<Wi_Fi>hey guys
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22:22<Wi_Fi>my wireless works as long as i have cable in
22:22<Wi_Fi>eth0 up and wireless stays up i disconnect cable and wireless goes too
22:22<dondelelcaro>karunali: it should be a synaptics touchpad, so you can assign what button tap goes to
22:22<Wi_Fi>any ideas
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22:23<karunali_>dondelelcaro: It's an old G3 iBook....
22:23<Wi_Fi>usin putty to connect to both eth0 and wireless
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22:23<dondelelcaro>karunali_: well, check to see if it has a synaptics. If it doesn, then there probably isn't a good way to configure it.
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22:24<dondelelcaro>(without getting into the source code for the drivers)
22:24<kapil>Wi_Fi: are you sure? unplug the cable and check the output of "iwlist scan"
22:24<jaimealberto>ok kapil, this is what happended in single-user mode it worked
22:25<jaimealberto>then i cheked and s2disk is a program from uswsusp so i checked /etc/uswsusp.conf and voila!
22:26<kapil>jaimealberto: great. "s2disk" part of "uwsusp" which stores *its* config files in one of two places. ah! you found one.
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22:27<jaimealberto>so i changed the resume devide to /dev/sda6 and now it goes to hibernate but when i start the laptop it can't resume
22:27<kapil>jaimealberto: the other place is /etc/suspend.conf
22:27<jaimealberto>and the swapfs is corrupted
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22:27<chump_>hey guys i was wondering if i wanted to run software raid on 1(raid 1) would i be able to set up the first drive this month and then next month pop in a fresh drive and mirror it over without fussing too much?
22:27<dondelelcaro>chump_: yes
22:28<jaimealberto>kapil, I don't have the suspend.conf file
22:28<chump_>dondelecaro: excellent thanks
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22:28<kapil>jaimealberto: that's fine then. the /etc/uswsusp.conf is probably the newer place. i don't use uswsusp ...
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22:29<kapil>jaimealberto: note that the way s2disk suspends may be slightly different from the default kernel suspend works. the former is done in user space. this difference may explain the corruption of swap.
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22:30<jaimealberto>kapil, and how do you put your machine to hibernate?
22:30<kapil>in other words you can't use both!
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22:30<Wi_Fi>kapil
22:31<Wi_Fi>if disconnect cable i also lose my wifi connect
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22:31<kapil>jaimealberto: if s2disk was working for you then it is best that you try to get that working again.
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22:32<kapil>i think you changed some file /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d and also the grub menu.lst. you should probably restore that.
22:33<kapil>Wi_Fi: did you check the output of "iwlist scan" after disconnecting the cable?
22:34<Wi_Fi>id have to connect the monitor up to the machine to see
22:34<jaimealberto>kapil, i didn't used s2disk! I used gnome-power-manager to put the machine to hibernate!
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22:35<kapil>jaimealberto: your current resume problem may come from the fact that you have too many different suspend/resume mechanisms installed!
22:35<jaimealberto>I'm loosing it!
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22:37<kapil>jaimealberto: hang in there! suspend/resume is still a bit of black magic.
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22:38<jaimealberto>I can't belive it! it was working so fine
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22:39<jaimealberto>suspend to ram never worked, but who needs it anyway, suspend to disk was working fine.... I'm about to cry
22:39<dondelelcaro>uswsup actually works for a whole bunch of things doing suspend to ram...
22:40*chris_ is away: Gone away for now.
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22:40<dondelelcaro>chris_: please turn off the /away anouncements.
22:41<patricio>hey guys......I am running 2.6.22 and at boot, at the time my wireless looks for the dhcp server I am getting this message: option_space_encapsulate: option space agent does not exist, but is configured..........can anyone give me some advice on what this means and how to resolve the issue that is causing this message?
22:41<kapil>jaimealberto: sorry. gotto go. i think you have solved 90% of the problem by figuring out the configuration entry that was holding up s2disk. you just need to prevent both kernel and user space suspend from trying to resume.
22:41<dondelelcaro>patricio: you can pretty much ignore that. That's one of the ifup hooks being chatty.
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22:41<kapil>jaimealberto: best of luck. bbl.
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22:44<patricio>dondelelcaro: thank you very much.......At boot my wireless cannot find a dhcp server and times out......and I have to login into a terminal as root and ifdown wlan0 and then do a 'iwconfig' on the wlan0 with the specific essid specified for the dhcp before it will connect........any advice on that issue?
22:45<dondelelcaro>patricio: you need to specify the wireless-essid in /etc/network/interfaces for that card.
22:45<dondelelcaro>patricio: otherwise it doesn't specify anything in particular, and only associates with the right AP if you're lucky, which you apparently aren't.
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22:47<dondelelcaro>patricio: man wireless; for the full details.
22:49<jaimealberto>ok kapil, are you there! it is working now!
22:49<patricio>dondelelcaro: thank you so much for the input, and I will read the man files to see if I can figure it out........
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22:50<dondelelcaro>patricio: if you get lost, you can pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
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22:50<patricio>dondelelcaro: I may do that.......and thank you
22:50<jaimealberto>at last!
22:50<jaimealberto>it worked!
22:51<jaimealberto>i just removed the uswsusp package
22:51<jaimealberto>what I don't understand is that I didn't installed it
22:51<patricio>!pastebin
22:51<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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22:53<d00d>how can i change my sqlpassword in MYSQL
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22:57<patricio>dondelelcaro: here is my interfaces.........http://rafb.net/p/eO0eIv66.html
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22:58<dondelelcaro>patricio: right, you need a wireless-essid stanza on line 8; there's an example in the interfaces manpage of how that would look (but not with wireless-essid option)
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23:03<patricio>am I here?
23:04<patricio>dondelelcaro: is this the correct format for that entry? http://rafb.net/p/AWSuVT20.html
23:05<patricio>of course to verify......I must reboot the machine to see if it finds the dhcp server at boot
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23:06<dondelelcaro>patricio: actually, you don't need to, but it there should be some spaces before wireless. Here, I'll show you an example:
23:07<dondelelcaro>patricio: http://rafb.net/p/2eyUpq54.html
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23:09<patricio>dondelelcaro: ok then.......I will modify and exit and reboot the box to confirm.......and will return shortly.......again thank you for your assistance....
23:09<dondelelcaro>patricio: you actually don't need to reboot.
23:09<patricio>no?
23:09<dondelelcaro>patricio: just ifdown wifi0; or whatever the interface is, set the essid to something wrong, and then ifup wifi0;
23:09<dondelelcaro>patricio: if it gets set right and gets an address, it will work on reboot.
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23:11<patricio>dondelelcaro: ok......one moment please
23:13<patricio>dondelelcaro: I am sorry....but you have me confused....you want me to set the essid to something incorrect? Do you want me to do that by doing a iwconfig on the wlan0?
23:13<dondelelcaro>patricio: right.
23:13<patricio>ok
23:13<dondelelcaro>patricio: if it's working properly, it will be set to the right essid, and then dhcp.
23:14<patricio>here I go
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23:17<patricio>dondelelcaro: here is what I did........ifdown wlan0 - iwconfig wlan0 essid wrong - ifup wlan0........and it would not connect.......and then.....- ifdown wlan0 - iwconfig wlan0 essid rightessid - ifup wlan0 - and it connected.....
23:17<patricio>and I made the modifications to the interfaces prior to doin so
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23:20<patricio>dondelelcaro: do you see it necessary to include the dns as you showed in your example? Would that be helpful?
23:21<dondelelcaro>patricio: oh, you don't need it.
23:21<dondelelcaro>patricio: I have it because I don't want whatever crappy dns the dhcp server is giving me
23:22<patricio>dondelelcaro: ok
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23:27<patricio>dondelelcaro: I figured out what it was........I had the 'wireless-essid essidname' above the 'iface' entry for the wireless card......all I did was move it down one line in the interfaces files and then re-ran the commands that you instructed and it set it to the correct essid and found the dhcp and connected......
23:27<patricio>dondelelcaro: thank you so much for your time and your advice
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23:28<patricio>dondelelcaro: now......just for pits sake......I am going to reboot to see if it works at boot..... " just for the heck of it" lol
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23:31<dondelelcaro>patricio: so it worked I take it?
23:32<patricio>dondelelcaro: no doubt......like a charm
23:32<dondelelcaro>cool; no problem.
23:32<patricio>dondelelcaro: thank you so much........
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23:37<octoserver>who hooooo
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23:38<octoserver>I made a degraded raid1 and booted to it and then brought the running system disk back into the raid, and something went wrong installing the bootloader
23:38<octoserver>knopix saved my ars
23:38<octoserver>it is handy having a live cd around
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23:44<mike1980>'modprobe i8k force=1' 'cat /proc/i8k' how would I go about getting a script tp excute these to command on boot?
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23:46<mike1980>/etc/modules causes bad things with i8k force=1 in it so I need another way
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