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00:15<tyi>hi i need some cacti help if anyone uses it at all. I have it isntalled on a box, now i'm trying to monitor other boxes.
00:16<tyi>I've only installed snmpd on the other boxes, do i need anything else?
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00:36<k-man>i have this problem with vnc, when i log in using gnome, the keyboad mapping gets screwed
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00:37<k-man>but its fun if i don't use gnome, or if i log in with gnome from the terminal
00:37<k-man>but over vnc it gets screwed
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01:00<jscinoz>is there a developer/package maintainer channel?
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01:02<Xenguy>#debian-devel (oftc or freenode? one or the other)
01:03<chealer>jscinoz: yes
01:03<jscinoz>thanks
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01:35<Schreck>Hi
01:36<Schreck>To use the substitude commande in vi...
01:36<Schreck>How should I do if I have a string with spaces ?
01:37<Schreck>I've tried :1,$ s/"string_g 1"/"string_b 2"/g
01:37<Schreck>But it doesn't work
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01:51<Ouroboros>evening
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01:52<Schreck>Morning here ! ;) Ouroboros
01:52<Ouroboros>i call bs :)
01:52<Ouroboros>clearly it is evening everywhere
01:52<Schreck>bs ?
01:52<Schreck>lol
01:53<lex>not everywhere ))
01:53<Slydder>morning all
01:53<lex>8.53 am ))
01:53<lex>Slydder, morning )
01:53<Ouroboros>question about /: how does the root parameter to the kernel interact with stuff in /etc/fstab if the entries are different?
01:55<Ouroboros>it seems like once / is mounted from the kernel command line, you cant actually mount anything over it... the mounts succeed but the fs shows up as the original one
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02:03<Ouroboros>hm, apparently you have to chroot to the new mount?
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02:12<beer>at http://kde.org/info/3.5.9.php you can read that 3.5.9 "soon" will be in debian unstable. Does someone know when soon is?
02:12<kapil>Schreck: what is wrong with :1,$s/string_g 1/string_b 2/g ?
02:13<kapil>unless you need more than one space in which case then there should be a * after the sapce.
02:13<kapil>^s/sapce/space/
02:13<Schreck>kapil here is what I'd like to do
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02:14<Schreck>:1,$ s/"tee -a $LOGDIR/$LOGFILE\"/"tee -a $BACKUPLOG"/g
02:16<kapil>Schreck: the $'s need to be quoted as also the \'s so it should be something like the following
02:16<kapil> :1,$ s/"tee -a \$LOGDIR\/\$LOGFILE"/"tee -a \$BACKUPLOG"/g
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02:18<Schreck>Thanks kapil
02:18<Schreck>E486: Pattern not found: "tee -a \$LOGDIR\/\$LOGFILE"
02:18<Schreck>:/
02:20<chealer_>beer: #debian-kde would know better
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02:20<beer>tx
02:20<kapil>Schreck: you are not using "standard" vi. perhaps it is vim with perlre.
02:20<Schreck>kapil Yes, vim
02:21<kapil>Schreck: are the "'s in your original text?
02:21<simonrvn>using the \ is escaping, not quoting
02:21<kapil>simonrvn: i stand corrected. thanks.
02:21<Schreck>No s for the replace
02:21<simonrvn>np
02:22<kapil>Schreck: if the " character is not in your original text then you shouldn't have it there.
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02:23<Schreck>Okay kapil
02:23<kapil>it should be something like :1,$ s/tee -a \$LOGDIR\/\$LOGFILE/tee -a \$BACKUPLOG/g
02:25<Schreck>And the winner is.... kapil ! ^^ Thanks a lot
02:25<kapil>np
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03:08<phorce1>Before anyone does it, don't tell me about ask. I'm about to ask if there's anyone out there who can .... but the whole problem will be too involved to waste the cahnnels time. Is there someone who knows C well enough to give me some assistance in incorporating a driver for a card into a module that already exists. I've copied the relevant bits into the kernel-source and done a test compile that failed. I only know enough about C to know that something is not
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03:44<morgan`>hello
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03:45<chealer>phorce1: your question was truncated at "I only know enough about C to know that something is not"
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03:47<phorce1>I only know enough about C to know that something is not being declared somewhere but I can't figure out where or what. http://pastebin.ca/923109
03:47<phorce1>chealer: thanks, showed up fine on my end
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03:52<lyes>Hallo ev'rybody I try to install compiz-fusion on Etch with no success 'cause I don't get fusion-icon
03:54<morgan`>lyes, fusion-icon exists only in unstable: http://packages.debian.org/fusion-icon
03:54<morgan`>maybe you can try to install this version
03:55<lyes>so U advice me to use an unstable repos to install it
03:56<lyes>can you telle
03:56<lyes>tell me what do I need to add in my sources.list?
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03:58<morgan`>lyes, I doesn't advice you to do it ... I only said that you can try it ;)
03:59<lyes>thnx
03:59<morgan`>and I think there is no need to modify your sources.list, try with dpkg first, there isn't so much dependencies
04:00<lyes>ok I'll do it now
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04:09<miksuh>lyes: I don't think you can install compiz fusion from unstable whitout backporting it to etch
04:09<markfra>a good morning
04:10<miksuh>lyes: too much dependency problems
04:10<markfra>can someone tell me if there is a command to log a terminal content to a file?
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04:10<morgan`>miksuh, but only fusion-icon ?
04:11<miksuh>ah, just icon, that should work :)
04:12<OdyX>markfra: ">" : mycommand > myFile
04:12<seanius>i believe there are etch backported compiz fusion packages available, though
04:13<miksuh>atleast beryl packages are available, I don't know about compiz fusion
04:13<seanius>not from backports.org, but a third party repo
04:14<markfra>OdyX: well its more complicated than that.. It a telnet session output to a cisco
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04:14<OdyX>markfra: hum...
04:14<markfra>OdyX: and i need the 20k+ lines that it spits out :-/
04:14<markfra>OdyX: but i am working on a perl script with the telnet module to solve it, just thought i remembered a console dump function for text terminals.
04:15<OdyX>isn't this the purpose of /dev/tty* ?
04:16<morgan`>markfra, maybe the command "script" ?
04:16<markfra>morgan hmm lets see now
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04:19<markfra>morgan: Thanks a lot :-) it worked
04:19<morgan`>markfra, :)
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04:36<seanius>markfra: i find that the expect language is really good for automating stuff like telnet sessions
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04:39<JustSoul>I use http://www.debian.org/mirror/anonftpsync to make mirror of debian, I add ARCH_EXCLUDE="source alpha amd64..." ( http://paste.debian.net/50153 ), but it also download *.tar.gz files. Why? And how to correct it?
04:40<lyes>miksuh can you guide me about those packages?
04:40<JustSoul>hello
04:40<lyes>sorry seanius, but where can I find those packages?
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04:43<JustSoul>anybody?
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04:46<Guest404>JustSoul: Don't know the anonftpsync thingi. I can give you a debmirror script for that...
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04:47<lyes>is there any ne who used http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-etch/desktopfx/stable/ ?
04:47<seanius>lyes: i think it's http://emiscabpo.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/new-compiz-fusion-backport-repository/
04:47<JustSoul>Simon_42: plz
04:48<seanius>lyes: if the deb entry at that url works i'd recommend that over the shames one
04:48<seanius>the shames one is most likely newer and buggier
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04:50<lyes>seanius : thnx
04:53<Simon_42>JustSoul: http://pastebin.com/m8095fcd
04:54<Simon_42>JustSoul: Just add the architectures you want. delimeter is comma
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04:55<Simon_42>JustSoul: And there is a "--ignore-release-gpg" line you probably don't want
04:58<JustSoul>Simon_42: thx
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06:40<Kebianizao|work>Hello
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06:44<Kebianizao|work>I'm trying to use make-kpkg to configure a linux kernel for an amd64 arch and using tuxonice patch all this running on i386, this is the command I use:
06:44<Kebianizao|work>make-kpkg --revision=0.5 --append-to-version=-p64 --arch amd64 --initrd --added-patches tuxonice --config xconfig
06:44<Kebianizao|work>but the result is: "nothing to be done" after some warnings about the cross arch bid
06:44<Kebianizao|work>any idea?
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06:45<dartagnan>hi
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06:53<linduxed>ive got a mp3 that amarok wont play, is there a package for either recording output-sound or for fixing/converting mp3s to mp3s?
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06:55<c>Hi, i need help mounting an external USB drive. When i try to mount it i get the error: mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock
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06:57<Lynoure>c: Are you sure it is /dev/sdc and not /dev/sdc1?
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06:57<c>with /dev/sdc1 i still get the same error
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06:58<Lynoure>c: and there is a file system on it? Which type?
06:58<chealer>linduxed: yes. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/01/msg00843.html
06:58<c>yea, its got one partition formatted to msdos
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06:59<basile>hey men
07:00<linduxed>chealer: thx
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07:00<c>any idea what the problem is?
07:00<Lynoure>c: Not promising anything, but could you pastebin fdisk -l /dev/sdc ?
07:01<basile>what is that problem ?
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07:03<c>sure: http://pastebin.com/d606d8d3f
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07:05<raph_ael_>hello, anyone using zsh and zsh-beta on unstable ?
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07:06<Lynoure>c: hmm, nothing that screams badly there. It mounted before?
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07:06<c>no, well not on this server. It mounts fine on an os x machine but i need to be able to mount it on this server too
07:08<Lynoure>c: you could try fsck.vfat
07:09<chaataka>c: what if its name on this machine is different, check dmesg
07:10<c>oh, should i be using 'mount -t vfat....' instead of 'mount -t msdos....'?
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07:11<chaataka>c: or maybe -t auto, try them all
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07:11<c>Lynoure: what do you mean try fsck.vfat?
07:12<c>..do i need a listing for the usb drive in /etc/fstab?
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07:13<c>chaataka: mount -t auto didnt seem to do anything
07:14<chaataka>c: not necessary, but you'll need maybe superuser privilleges to mount an unexisting entry in fstab
07:14<Lynoure>c: if it compains about not finding the superblock, that would not help.
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07:14<Lynoure>c: yes, it's not msdos, but vfat
07:14<c>ok, using vfat gave the same superblock error.
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07:14<Lynoure>c: usually "not seeming to do anything" = mounted fine
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07:15<c>Lynoure: how can i see where its mounted then?
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07:15<heroxbd>c: mount
07:15<Lynoure>c: mount shows the list of all things mounted
07:16<c>ok, sdc or sdc1 are not listed in mount
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07:18<chaataka>c: what about giving a try to the usbmount package?
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07:19<chaataka>c: although it's meant to mount already mountable devices...
07:19<c>chaataka: ..debian is?
07:20<c>the size of the external drive doesnt make any difference does it? its only 500Gb.
07:20<heroxbd>c: I have never met such a "superblock" problem.
07:20<c>heroxbd: me neither! got me stumped
07:21<Swat->c: what did fdisk -l gave you?
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07:22<Lynoure>Swat-: c pastebinned that to http://pastebin.com/d606d8d3f
07:22<Swat->right. hmm lets take a look
07:22<c>Lynoure: yea, that link is the one for the disk in question
07:24<chaataka>c: try adding an entry in fstab, sth like '/dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1 vfat rw,exec,user,noauto,umask=000 0 0', amke the target directory and then just mount /dev/sdc1
07:25<c>chaataka: i still get mount: /dev/sdc1: can't read superblock
07:25<c>the same error
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07:26<heroxbd> c: can you use that in a Windows?
07:27<c>heroxbd: the drive? i have not tried it on windows but it mounts fine with no problems on OS x
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07:28<heroxbd> c: Then can your mount other vfat correctly?
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07:28<c>i have no other vfat drive to test it against
07:29<jeffpc>is there a way to get 64-bit userspace on s390? (the only 64bit packages I see are kernel images)
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07:29<Knight_Lord>c can you fdisk -l /dev/sdc?
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07:29<heroxbd>c: I suggest testing it. We are stuck :(
07:30<heroxbd>Knight_Lord: yes, http://pastebin.com/d606d8d3f
07:30<c>Knight_lord: http://pastebin.com/d606d8d3f
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07:31<Lynoure>c: did you try fsck.vfat /dev/sdc1 already ? but, if it turns out it's not vfat at all, but some Mac format, not sure what would happen.
07:32<Knight_Lord>hermax_ I would say that's NTFS not vfat
07:32<Knight_Lord>c ^
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07:33<c>the drive was formatted on OS x with the diskutility.app and was formatted to msdos
07:33<Knight_Lord>c I would suggest using ntfs-3g to mount it
07:33<Knight_Lord>ok
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07:33<c>although the fdisk shows it as w95 fat32
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07:34<Knight_Lord>c did you try to mount it as ntfs, just for kicks?
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07:34<heroxbd>c: also try mount -t msdos, if you haven't
07:35<c>Knight_lord: using mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1? yes i tried that and got "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1"
07:35<c>i also tried it with msdos! ;-)
07:35<Lynoure>If the filesystem is msdos and partition vfat, I guess it could be tough to mount. :/
07:35<Knight_Lord>c do you have the ntfs module?
07:36<c>Knight_lord: sorry, how do i know if i have it?
07:36<heroxbd>Lynoure: Yes. Maybe diskutility.app is not behaving correctly?
07:36<Knight_Lord>c lsmod |grep ntfs
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07:37<c>Knight_Lord: that gives: "ntfs 192564 0"
07:37<Knight_Lord>c ok you have it
07:37<c>... if this is a problem to mount, can i simply refomat the drive so that it will mount easily on my debian server and on OS x?
07:38<Knight_Lord>c if you don't care about the data, sure
07:38<Lynoure>heroxbd: I could not say, I don't use OS X currently
07:38<c>Knight_Lord: there is no data on it
07:39<heroxbd>Can OS X read ext3?
07:39<xayon>OSX recognises even ext partitions.
07:39<Knight_Lord>c the only filesystem I manage to share between linux/macosx and windows was ntfs
07:39<Knight_Lord>heroxbd no
07:39<xayon>heroxbd, no, but ext2 yes.
07:39<Knight_Lord>heroxbd there is somewhere a program on the internet that tries to mount ext2, but it's buggy as hell
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07:40<xayon>Knight_Lord, I've got a linux partition on my hard disk, on tiger, and it recognises it.
07:40<Knight_Lord>ext2fsx
07:40<heroxbd>oic. So the only choices are fat16/32 and ntfs?
07:40<Knight_Lord>xayon and you don't have ext2fsx installed?
07:40<c>so i am best to re-format it to ntfs and it will work on both systems fine?
07:40<xayon>Knight_Lord, No.
07:40<Knight_Lord>xayon my tiger doesn't recognize my linux partition
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07:41<mr>#manaus
07:41<Knight_Lord>c if macosx can read ext2 then i would format it ext2
07:41<xayon>Knight_Lord, :/ Well, maybe mine's magical but it does :D
07:41<heroxbd>c: yes ext is a good choice
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07:42<Knight_Lord>xayon and it's formated ext2?
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07:42<c>ext2 is not supported (as standard) on os x
07:43<Knight_Lord>that's what i though
07:43<c>will it make any difference to use ntfs instead?
07:44<Knight_Lord>in what sense?
07:44<heroxbd>c: no. ntfs is support fairly good on linux these days
07:44<xayon>Knight_Lord, I supposed yes, but actually I've been about three months or so on without being in my home, so... maybe i didn't finished it. For now, my non-apple-,-very-cheap Laptop is acting as my main computer...
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07:50<jumbo>ls
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07:56<chaataka>c: if the drive is not partitioned, did you try 'mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /mnt/whatever' and not using a partition number like /dev/sdc1
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07:56<c>chaataka: yes, same error!
07:57<chaataka>c: paste dmesg's output
07:59<chaataka>c: well, maybe not all of it ;)
07:59<c>chaataka: http://pastebin.com/d552455bb
07:59<c>chaataka: start scrolling, i did all of it ;-)
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08:01<enouf>c: run FIXBOOT on /dev/sdc1 would be my quick assessment
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08:02<enouf>lines 577-579 are the showstoppers
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08:03<enouf>c: OR, if that's a USB drive - it ain't ready
08:03<enouf>perhaps
08:03<c>what?
08:03<c>it is a USB drive
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08:06<enouf>it's a 500G Seagate, and yes, earlier up it says spinning up and ready
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08:07<enouf>c: oh. you used soem OSX util to format it in DOS?
08:07<c>yes
08:07<enouf>DOS has a very small size limit :-P
08:08<enouf>er .. so there's no data on it you need to recover?
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08:08<c>nothing at all
08:08<c>all i need to be able to to is use the drive with both debian and OS x
08:08<enouf>c: so format it something else ;-) run mkfs on it ;-)
08:09<enouf>oh, hrm choices are? fat32, ntfs, and what else?
08:09<c>...i was just looking at that option from earlier. can i use mkfs to format to ntfs then?
08:09<enouf>erm, not sure, doubt it - see ntfs-3g
08:09<enouf>!ntfs-3g
08:09<dpkg>methinks ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/. Available in Lenny, but not for Etch except as a backport: see the package page at http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g, backport instructions at http://www.backports.org/ or ask me about <bpo>. Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage
08:10<enouf>ntfsutils maybe, but doubt it, i never used ntfs
08:11<c>lol, thanks, cant seem to ntfs with mkfs? anyone else know how I can re-format it to ntfs?
08:11<enouf>c: ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux
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08:11<enouf>c: apt-cache show <pkg>
08:12<enouf> mkntfs - Format a partition with an NTFS filesystem, optionally bootable.
08:12<enouf>c: ^^^^^^
08:12<enouf>c: pkgname is "ntfsprogs" , my bad, i wish there were a standard :-P
08:13<c>ah ok, so i need to install the ntfsprogs pkg and then i can use mkntfs?
08:13<enouf>looks like it, yep ;-)
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08:20<chaataka>c: oh my... i was about to buy a FreeAgent but i've read so many bad things already ;/ And from all I've read the problem seems to be `awaking the device' and that it could be solved by passing "echo 1 > /sys/class/scsi_disk/(address)/allow_restart". but i think it's a temporary solution, so google that!
08:21<c>yea the FreeAgent drives are terrible. NEVER buy one! i have had experience with about 5 in the last year that have died/corrupted/stopped working for no good reason!
08:22<c>It's just that I 'have' to use this one I'm working on here now...and its not mine so I'm not bothered if it dies ;-)
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08:25<chaataka>c: do you happen to have access to a win PC so you can use the FreeAgent Tools to disable power management? Here is an article with a solution (or two): http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/11/seagate-issues-workaround-linux
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08:37<wo0f>yoo guys
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08:38<padski>!spell yoo
08:38<dpkg>possible spellings for yoo: yo Yoko too you yow yob yon Koo boo coo foo goo loo moo poo woo zoo
08:38<padski>I laughed
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08:43<wo0f>lol
08:43<wo0f>poo guys
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08:44<buffoon_work>how can i install a certificate for a wireless connection in sid?
08:45<buffoon_work>it's a wpa secured wlan where i need a cert to connect to it
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08:46<padski>buffoon_work, dunno, try man wpa_supplicant
08:47<padski>buffoon_work, or man wpa_supplicant.conf
08:47<ifvoid>buffoon_work: or install network-manager
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08:52<ant_>wpa_supplicant.conf says where your certificate is - there are some example configs in the docs IIRC
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09:31<jstein3>i wonder why there is no "am-utils" package in debian lenny at the moment.
09:31<panthera>http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=am-utils
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09:32<padski>there is also a way to ask dpkg, but I forget it.
09:32<padski>!why not
09:32<dpkg>because I don't like you
09:33<raph_ael_>anyone using zsh or zsh-beta on unstable ? i find completion horribly slow since a few updates
09:33<jstein3>panthera, is there any good way, how we can get am-utils running on our lenny system?
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09:34<panthera>jstein3: i'd probably use pinning and install the one from sid
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09:36<jstein3>ok thank you.
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09:44<DaCapn>Is it possible to use virtual hosts in an sshd similar to how you can in apache? Like say you have several VMs running on a machine, you establish an ssh connection, then if you connected to hostname1, you can route to VM1?
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09:45<fast>t
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09:45<DaCapn>he sure was fast!
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09:46<padski>DaCapn, I don't think so. suggest you use different ports
09:46<padski>DaCapn, recent openssh will remember the server key per port
09:47<padski>DaCapn, in known_keys
09:47<DaCapn>right
09:47<padski>DaCapn, although that may not have made it into etch
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09:48<padski>DaCapn, I think it is in etch-backports
09:48<DaCapn>I guess there's always just establishing a session with the host machine and then making another session with the VM
09:48<padski>DaCapn, or maybe I'm thinking about sarge :-)
09:48<DaCapn>heh
09:49<DaCapn>I was just hoping it could be completely seamless, not having to touch the host machine at all if I didn't need to use it
09:50<padski>DaCapn, give the virtual hosts seperate ip addresses
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09:59<DaCapn>I guess I'm kind of confused, the gateway doesn't know the IP of the VMs, right? Just the IP of the host machine? How does the traffic get properly routed the the VM?
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10:00<padski>DaCapn, gateway ?
10:01<DaCapn>Your gateway to the internet. Say you have a router.
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10:01<padski>DaCapn, NAT gateway ?
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10:02<arman>hello everyone, can someone please help me , i am getting this error "dpy: 0x8071b78 evt/error/major/minor: 113/176/1/0" when i am trying to change my keyboard properties in gnome
10:02<DaCapn>Yes.
10:03<padski>and there is only one IP ? same problem, same solutions.
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10:04<padski>DaCapn, I suspect that what you want to know is how does something like apache virtual hosting work ?
10:04<DaCapn>No, I'm learning more about VMs
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10:05<devel>hello
10:05<devel>http://paste.debian.net/50174 please help
10:05<padski>DaCapn, anyway see rfc2817
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10:09<padski>devel, and the libs ?
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10:10<padski>devel, you could try a stically compiled shell
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10:10<devel>padski: hm they may be not installed, but I dont see any error msg...
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10:10<padski>devel, "No such file or directory"
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10:12<devel>padski: chroot doesnt see my /bin/bash at all... I straced it: http://paste.debian.net/50176 am I doing something wrong or what?
10:12<lubas>hi all
10:14<padski>devel, "does not see" ?
10:15<padski>devel, like "execve("/bin/bash", ["/bin/bash"], [/* 13 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"
10:15<devel>yes
10:15<padski>devel, libs
10:15<padski>devel, use sash or something
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10:20<devel>it worked \o/
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10:20*devel hugs zsh-static
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10:21<padski>devel, man ldd. you need to have the libraries to link in at load/link time INSIDE the chroot.
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10:26<devel>padski: yeah, Im trying to debug makejail problem
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10:28<padski>devel, happy to help :-)
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10:37<bcochofel>Hi, is there a way to feed dpkg some kind of script or text file with the packages to install? All in one go
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10:38<dli>bcochofel, what do you mean?
10:38<amphi>bcochofel: see dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections
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10:38<bcochofel>dli: I want to install several packages using dpkg. I was wondering if I can feed a file with the names
10:39<bcochofel>amphi: ok, I will
10:39<amphi>bcochofel: oh - aptitude install $(cat some_file) will work, I think
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10:40<dli>bcochofel, if you are asking, usually, you should use apt-get (aptitude) instead of dpkg
10:40<bcochofel>dli: why?
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10:47<Silviana>ola!
10:48<Silviana>q debo hacer para corregir mi repositorio? cada vez que intento instalar algun paquete (apt-get) me salen multitud de dpkg: error al procesar gnome-system-tools (--configure)
10:48<berto>ola!
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10:48<berto>!es
10:48<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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10:48<berto>Silviana: try dpkg --configure -a
10:49<Silviana>berto: igual
10:49<Silviana>ya lo habia probado
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10:51<idal>salut
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11:00<Silviana>alguien podria echarme una mano con este errror? -> http://paste.debian.net/50179
11:01<morgan`>!es
11:01<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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11:11<poppen>anyone here know how to set NO write permissions in default dir in proftpd?
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11:30<renny>ragazzi ho installato qemu per questioni di studio
11:30<renny>e ora avrei in mente di virtualizzare la partizione dove è installato windows realmente
11:30<noflash>!it
11:30<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, prova il canale #debian-it, oppure #linux-it.
11:30<renny>per poterlo usare...
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11:30<renny>dpkg, I can write english :D
11:31<renny>excuse me for my mistake :)
11:31<noflash>:)
11:31<noflash>ask away
11:31<renny>noflash, do you know qemu? :)
11:31<noflash>nope
11:32<renny>ok :(
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11:32<noflash>sorry, I'm sure someone does...if it's a debian related question just ask
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11:32<renny>ok :)
11:32<renny>no problem
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11:33<renny>hear you sonn ;)
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11:35<Aleric>I have two mailboxes (mbox format, I think it is: all mails in one file). One of them contains mails between date A and B, and between C and D. The other contains mails between date A and C. Does anyone have an idea on how to merge those two mailboxes into one?
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11:35<cahoot>cat?
11:35<Aleric>heh
11:35<Munkie>formail?
11:35<Aleric>Would that get rid of duplicated mails cahoot?
11:36<Aleric>How would I re-order the mails?
11:36<cahoot>sorry no idea - please disregard
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11:37<kapil>Aleric: do you mind using mutt to do this?
11:37<Aleric>kapil: no, I always use mutt
11:37<Aleric>How?
11:38<kapil>i would do it as follows in mutt. (1) import all the mail into one mailbox. (2) sort by thread (3) limit to ~= . Those are the duplicates
11:38<kapil>you can delete those widh d ~=.
11:39<kapil>^s/widh/with/
11:40<kapil>i thought you were looking for a command-line way. there should be one.
11:41<Aleric>That would be easier.. I have to merge many mailboxes
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11:46<Aleric>kapil: How can I give mutt these commands?
11:47<Aleric>I found a 'sort-mailbox' in the help it gives when I press '?', but it isn't bound to any key.
11:47<Aleric>There is no keyword 'import'
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11:49<kapil>Aleric: sorry. I should have been clearer.
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11:49<Aleric>I used cat... but that just gives me all mails unsorted with duplicates
11:50<kapil>select mailbox 1. use % to ensure that you don't save changes. tag all messages with 'T.'. save to new box with ';s newbox'.
11:50<kapil>do the same with mailbox 2.
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11:51<kapil>now select the new mailbox. select sort order thread with 'ot'. limit to duplicates with 'l~='. and delete duplicates with 'D~='.
11:52<kapil>this assumes that the messages which are duplicates have the same "message-id" stuck inside them.
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11:54<Aleric><kapil> do the same with mailbox 2. <-- save to 'newbox' or to 'newbox2' ?
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11:55<kapil>Aleric: save to 'newbox' . basically you want all your mail in one box. it might work with cat too.
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11:56<kapil>Aleric: there are two steps. Step1. get all your mail in one box. Step 2. in a given mailbox get rid of duplicates.
11:57<Aleric><kapil> now select the new mailbox. select sort order thread with 'ot'. <-- what is 'o' bound to? I have it bound to something else...
11:57<kapil>Aleric: 'o' is bound to "sort-mailbox".
11:58<Aleric>sort-mailbox is not bound here
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11:59<kapil>Aleric: i've forgotten how one calls unbound functions in mutt.
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12:00<kapil>Aleric: OK. its ':exec sort-mailbox'
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12:01<kapil>Aleric: it will prompt you to choose the sort order and you choose t for thread.
12:01<Aleric>Why not date?
12:02<kapil>Aleric: I don't think it recognises "equals" by date. only by "message-id" and that is when it is keeping track of "threads".
12:02<kapil>Aleric: you can try date though. I haven't tried it.
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12:39<beer>does someoneknow when kde 3.5.9 will hit sid?
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12:41<Torsten_W>beer: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2008/02/msg00052.html
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---Logopened Fri Feb 29 12:51:18 2008
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12:53<jstein3>i want to install "am-utils" on debian lenny, but it is not available. I tried to install the sid-version instead, but it failed because of broken dependencies. Any hints?
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12:56<saapas>uhh, any reason that connections to oftc were killed a moment ago ?
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12:56<Aleric>[18:56] -weasel/Wallops- Sorry folks. It seems a bug in services turned a mask into *@*.
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12:56<amphi>heh
12:56<saapas>okay.
12:56<rasher>Nice
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12:56<mambo>heh
12:56<Schreck>What was all these bans ? :/
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12:57<Aleric>Schreck: Don't do it again, or I'll ban you again.
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12:57<Schreck>Doing what ? o_O
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12:58<Aleric>Um, having you host match * for example.
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12:58<avu>yeah, that's just rude
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12:58*Aleric eats cocus
12:58<azeem>user error apparently, please move along
12:59<Schreck>azeem yeah I suppose... o_O
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13:00<jstein3>why was am-tools removed from repository?
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13:32<Jallafar>Hi, is there a way to set xorg to autodetect the monitor everytime you start up? Im installing debian on a USB drive.
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13:35<JohnGH>Is it possible to share my already running X session desktop (fluxbox) via VNC? if so, where can I look for what to do? I've tried running vncserver - and I can't find a listening port with netstat.
13:36*Supaplex looks at his join mask, ouuu shiney hostname update
13:36<JohnGH>I also telnetted to port 5500 on the client's machine and could connect, so tried using vncconnect (his IP) to connnect to that - but it just comes straight back to a commend prompt
13:37<JohnGH>command
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13:38<Aleric>How can I reboot to single user mode?
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13:38<JohnGH>Aleric - type init 1 as root
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13:39<JohnGH>that takes you to runlevel 1 which is single user
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13:40<JohnGH>if you actually need a reboot in there - you can add a 1 to the command line that boots the nernel - are you using grub or LILO?
13:40<JohnGH>kernel
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13:42<Supaplex>he left a little quick :P
13:42<JohnGH>umm yeah
13:42<JohnGH>must have typed it in ;)
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13:43<Supaplex>^.^
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13:45<JohnGH>no VNC gurus here huh?
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14:33<jthomas>Where can I find 'checkinstall' for Etch? Its only listed for oldstable, testing, and sid: http://packages.debian.org/checkinstall
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14:34<Maulkin>It's probably not in etch
14:35<jthomas>why would that be?
14:35<Maulkin>Because it was buggy as hell and was removed? :)
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14:35<Maulkin>Bug #281823: checkinstall: filesystem coruption
14:35<jthomas>oh? hmm... I didn't know that but its been a real nice program in the past. Or are you just guessing?
14:35<jthomas>oh. ok thanks!
14:36<craigevil>try using stow instead
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14:37<Maulkin>Try making a package propely instead.
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14:48<simonrvn>fix your bot
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14:51<Maulkin>simonrvn: fixed your IRC client now I see? Good.
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14:52<simonrvn>there was nothing wrong with it
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14:57<cwood>Good evening. When I click a url in a java app on my machine, it invokes Opera or Konqueror if installed, but never Iceweasel. Are there any docs on how to change this? Oddly, /usr/bin/x-www-browser is linked to /usr/bin/galeon, so obviously that's not being used here.
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14:57<jer>hi all
14:58<jer>i have a probleme with a new compile kernel
14:58<jer>i can't boot
14:58<craigevil>cwood: look in kcontrol>kde components
14:58<jer>it say it can't find raid device vg00
14:58<cwood>craigevil: Hm. I'm not running kde even. But I have that installed, I'll look. :p
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14:59<simonrvn>@part
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15:02<cwood>craigevil: Where am I looking under here? And why would Java be consulting my kde controls when I'm running xfce4?
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15:02<craigevil>sorry you mentioned konq thought you were using kde
15:03<cwood>Nope, which is even more odd... :p
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15:17<ben_>Hi everyone - I'm trying to install two copies of a package (mysql) simultaneously, using --program-suffix to change the binary name from mysqld to mysqld-patched. I'm having quite a bit of trouble finding all the places to change names - can anyone point me towards a good resource on relocating a package / renaming a package for multiple installations?
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15:19<zippz0r>Hello everyone, i'm trying to get my intel pro 3945 wifi card to work, but for some reason i cannot get it to work! and i can not use a wired connection, so i cant use that to apt-get. If someone would help me out, i would really appreciate it
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15:27<blarson>!tell zippz0r about ipw3945
15:27<zippz0r>hi blarson
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15:27<zippz0r>well, the problem is i cant do that because in linux, the wifi wont work, and i cannot use wired access atm
15:28<blarson>zippz0r: you need some way to get the packages. Perhaps a system on the internet where you can fetch the packages with wget and save them to a usb stick.
15:29<zippz0r>i tried downloading the ipw3945d package manually, but for some reason the libc6 package i had installed, woudlnt be recognized by ipw3945d
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15:30<zippz0r>so i couldnt install it
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15:30<zippz0r>the firmware package went good
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15:30<blarson>zippz0r: sounds like you got one for the wrong debian release.
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15:30<zippz0r>i think im using...
15:31<zippz0r>2.6.18
15:31<zippz0r>smth
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15:31<zippz0r>i dled a dvd image
15:31<zippz0r>-686 @ the end atleast
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15:34<zippz0r>should i reinstall and try again?
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15:35<chealer>zippz0r: what do you mean by "the libc6 package i had installed, woudlnt be recognized by ipw3945d"?
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15:35<zippz0r>ipw4945d depended on libc6, and i had that installed, but it showed up as a error
15:37<chealer>zippz0r: ...which error?
15:37<zippz0r>i tried to install it using the gsmth package installer, and on the status line, it came up: Error ... dependencies .. libc6
15:37<zippz0r>atleast i interpreted it to mean that libc6 wasnt installed for some reason
15:38<chealer>zippz0r: the gsmth package installer? what's that?
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15:39<zippz0r>the default package installer in gnome
15:39<zippz0r>i guess
15:39<zippz0r>gsomething, cant remember what its called
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15:40<zippz0r>but i dled ipw3945d_1.7.22-5_i386.deb from debian site
15:40<zippz0r>and so i had to install it with a package installer
15:40<chealer>zippz0r: is that a dual boot machine?
15:40<zippz0r>yes, so atm i am on windows
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15:41<zippz0r>i cannot use wired connection, so i have to boot into windows to use wifi
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15:42<amphi>zippz0r: you'd be better off to use the iwlwifi driver IMHO
15:42<amphi>zippz0r: no stupid daemon, for one thing
15:42<chealer>amphi: he's using Linux 2.6.18
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15:43<chealer>zippz0r: maybe it would be easier to wait until you can use your wired connection. it's hard to guess with "Error ... dependencies .. libc6" and "gsmth"
15:43<reisio>'fraid I didn't keep track — what happened with Ion3?
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15:43<amphi>chealer: it won't work with that, with the mac80211 patch?
15:43<zippz0r>2.6.24 which has iwlwifi driver, is that testing?
15:44<themill>!iwlwifi
15:44<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.23 (modprobe iwl4965 or iwl3945) and is difficult to get working with kernels < 2.6.21. Firmware provided by the 'firmware-iwlwifi' package (lenny/sid). HOWTO at http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi or #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net, or <wireless tree>
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15:46<zippz0r>well, if you can give me a link to dvd image of 2.6.24 / 23
15:46<zippz0r>i can dl that and install instead
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15:47<chealer>amphi: well no idea, but patching sounds more complicated than what he's already stuck with
15:47<reisio>...because downloading 4 gigs to install something that only needs less than 100 megs to be installed is smart :p
15:47<themill>!kmuto
15:47<dpkg>For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
15:47<zippz0r>reisio, i dont have inet on the linux, so cant update it from there
15:47<amphi>chealer: the make file has a target to do it for you, it's quite simple
15:47<zippz0r>i cant get wired connection in weeks
15:47<reisio>:/
15:47<chealer>reisio: what do you mean about ion3?
15:48<zippz0r>reisio, my school is gay and has AP's hanging around here, but no wired slots
15:48<reisio>chealer: last time I checked a while ago it was going to be removed or renamed
15:48<reisio>(re: Debian repositories)
15:48<chealer>amphi: I don't think he wants to compile Linux if he doesn't know the name of his package manager.
15:49<amphi>chealer: I missed that ;)
15:49<reisio>I just don't see Ion3 _or_ iceparticle (what won a forum poll) in the repositories
15:49<chealer>zippz0r: no, 2.6.24 is only in unstable
15:49<zippz0r>yes, i realized that
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15:50<chealer>reisio: I think the removal discussion was only about stable. and for the renaming, I *guess* the author went back to earth
15:50<zippz0r>etch-custom-0215.iso, if i dl that, and install. Should my wifi be working by default?
15:51<reisio>chealer: I don't think he did :p
15:51<reisio>chealer: you have Ion3 installed?
15:51<chealer>reisio: no
15:51<chealer>zippz0r: no. the only Debian image I know which would have 2.6.24 is Kenshi Muto's custom d-i
15:52<reisio>looks like Ion3 was just removed completely, not even repackage a la Firefox/IceWeasel
15:52<zippz0r>that is the custom image from Kenshi Muto's site
15:52<reisio>...which is, well, a downer
15:52<chealer>zippz0r: oh, wait...it may work indeed.
15:52<jthomas>I'm trying to configure ffmpeg with --enable-libmp3lame but it tells me I don't have LAME installed, which i do (from debian-multimedia.org). This is an Etch/Stable setup.
15:53<jthomas>Can anyone tell me what may be wrong?
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15:54<zippz0r>chealer, guess i wont have anything to loose, as i still have the other dvd img, and wont make that work anyway:p
15:54<zippz0r>lol
15:54<chealer>zippz0r: only by default during the installation though, unless you follow the notes he gives on http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2624-etch3.htm
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15:55<zippz0r>chealer: well, as long as i choose my wifi card on installation, it should then work?
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15:57<chealer>zippz0r: FWIW, that's not vanilla Debian, but pretty close
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15:58<zippz0r>Huh?
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15:58<reisio>chealer: apparently it's in unstable/non-free as 'ion3' ;)
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15:58<chealer>zippz0r: it's a custom debian-installer image with studd not in the archive.
15:58<chealer>s/studd/stuff/
15:58<zippz0r>oh, ok
15:59<reisio>not sure how I missed it :p
15:59<reisio>ineptitude, I guess :)
15:59<zippz0r>So it isnt the same installer as the "orig" debian-installer?
15:59<chealer>reisio: wow...
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16:00<chealer>zippz0r: the proper installer is the same, but some packages were added, like Kenshi's unofficial Linux 2.6.24 backports for Etch.
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16:01<chealer>zippz0r: no. non-free firmwares is only included in the installer, unless you follow Kenshi's notes to install them permanently.
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16:02<zippz0r>ooh, ok
16:02<zippz0r>with is apt-cdrom etc?
16:02<chealer>zippz0r: it allows you to add an optical disk as an APT source.
16:02<zippz0r>yes, but after the install
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16:03<zippz0r>i do: 'apt-cdrom add' and 'apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-1-686', to get the drivers i need?
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16:03<chealer>zippz0r: looks like that, yes (assuming you install the 686 Linux image)
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16:05<zippz0r>chealer, currently downloading the i386 image, that shoudl be correct?
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16:05<chealer>zippz0r: yes
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16:06<zippz0r>good:)
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16:25<panagos>does anyone know of any published benchmarks between the various RDBMSs out there? (postgresql, mysql, oracle, ms sql server, etc)
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16:29<Coke>hi ... the /etc/networking script stops and starts ALL interfaces, so what I use to control a particular interface instead off all at the same time ?
16:29<Coke>(new to debian, sorry)
16:29<amphi>Coke: ifup/down <iface?
16:29<amphi>er, <iface>
16:30<Coke>let me see ...
16:30<Coke>cool, thanks
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16:32<amphi>you're welcome
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16:35<Coke>and another one ... anyone with an atheros chipset here ? I hate to use ndiswrapper but madwifi gives me VERY poor results ...
16:35<Coke>any tips or recomendations ?
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16:35<Coke>tried SVN and the official debian package
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16:54<tommi>jhreyhtry
16:54<tommi>sf
16:54<tommi>pryvit
16:54<tommi>привіт
16:55<amphi>!ru
16:55<dpkg>[ru] Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
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16:59<silo>hi
16:59<silo>can I ask a question here ?
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17:00<silo>anyway, I'll ask
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17:01<silo>I have installed ntfs-3g and I have mounted an ntfs partition. In the mount point (/mnt/folder) I can browse the content of the HD but on the nautilus it shows the HD as unmounted or something
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17:01<silo>what goes wrong with that ?
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17:07<lex>by what you can browse the content of the HD?
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17:10<marc___>hi, hab debian (stable) installiert. nach jedem neustart existiert /dev/hda nicht mehr. was soll ich tun?
17:11<lex>marc___, dont't understans you
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17:12<marc___>hi, i installed debian. after each reboot my cdrom (/dev/hda) doesn´t exist anymore.
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17:13<lex>dev/hda - it's your hard disk
17:14<chealer>lex: not necessarily
17:14<marc___>it´s a dvd drive
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17:15<alien>e
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17:16<lex>and wht's in /media/cdrom ?
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17:16<raja> /quit
17:16<lex>is there your cd(dvd)rom ?
17:17<marc___>from /etc/fstab:
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17:17<marc___>/dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
17:17<lex> /media/cdrom0 check /media/cdrom0
17:18<lex>sorry... /media/cdrom0
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17:19<marc___>¨/media/cdrom¨ links to ¨/media/cdrom0¨
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17:20<lex>is anything in /media/cdrom0 ?
17:20<mambo>how do i install a package as normal user for my local use?
17:20<marc___>no
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17:20<alex_>.
17:21<marc___>i can mknod the device but i dont like doing that at every start
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17:27<pak>Ubuntu = debian?
17:27<lex>mambo, you cant install as a normal user , only as root?
17:27<Ganneff>!ubuntu
17:27<azeem>pak: njet
17:27<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
17:28<chealer>pak: if Ubuntu was Debian, it would be called Debian
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17:30<pak>well i downloaded this irc client and default channel was debian so I thought it was linked with ubuntu - sorry
17:30<azeem>pak: which client?
17:30<pak>konversation
17:31<pak>I'm new with ubuntu, had xp, did a clean install now trying to setup virtual machine but i'm getting an error message saying to give write permission
17:31<azeem>pak: which version of Ubuntu?
17:31<pak>7.10
17:32<azeem>ok
17:32<pak>newest one azeem :)
17:32<azeem>anyway, go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net to get support
17:32<pak>i did its like empty
17:32<azeem>did you read the "on irc.freenode.net" part?
17:32<craigevil>hehe kon on ubuntu sent him here, #ubuntu is never empty
17:32<azeem>there's 1000+ people in there
17:33<pak>huh
17:33<pak>i clicked on it and i'm in the channel
17:33<pak>only one person named lex in there
17:33<pak>???
17:33<azeem>pak: dude, "on irc.freenode.net"
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17:33<craigevil>its on a different server
17:33<pak>oh crap
17:33<lex>pak ?
17:33<azeem>pak: if you have no idea what I'm talking about, *ask*
17:33<pak>hey lex
17:33<pak>how are you on both servers?!
17:33<craigevil>do /server irc.freenode.net then join #ubuntu
17:34<lex>on what servers?
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17:35<Oneils>i'm onle on quake.net , this net and bynets.org
17:35<pak>Oneils, i swear if you go on ubuntu
17:35<pak>click on that #ubuntu
17:35<pak>some one with your same name
17:36*avu silently bangs his head against the wall
17:36<pak>wait so is mine
17:36<pak>oh you're in both channels
17:36<craigevil>wtf do you expect he installed ubuntu
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17:36<mambo>how do i install a package as normal user for my local use?
17:36<azeem>pak: please go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net and leave this channel, you're disturbign
17:36<azeem>mambo: you cannot
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17:36<Oneils>pak its a channel ))
17:36<mambo>azeem: why not?
17:37<dondelelcaro>mambo: dpkg-deb -x foo.deb foo; and then adjust your path appropriately.
17:37<Oneils>yes i'm there )
17:37<azeem>mambo: because dpkg is not designed for that
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17:37<dondelelcaro>mambo: though that's not really "installing" it's "unpacking"
17:37<chealer>mambo: as you want...may depend on the package
17:37<mambo>dondelelcaro: i did -x already. now how do i adjust my path?
17:37<mambo>dondelelcaro: because it requires a lib.
17:37<mambo>dondelelcaro: i also got the lib and did -x
17:38<dondelelcaro>mambo: then unpack the lib too and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH
17:38<azeem>that's where it gets messy
17:38<dondelelcaro>mambo: man ld.so; for details.
17:38<mambo>dondelelcaro: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PATH:/where/my/lib/is ?
17:38<azeem>LD_LIBRARY_PATH does not inherit from $PATH
17:38<dondelelcaro>mambo: you should only set it for the application that you're running, ideally using a wrapper script.
17:38<azeem>and shouldn't
17:39<mambo>azeem: dondelelcaro i am going to try that now.. brb
17:39<mambo>thanks
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17:41<pak>whats the ubuntu server again please?
17:42<amphi>pak: irc.freenode.net
17:42<amphi>if that's what you mean
17:42<pak>thanks
17:43<dkr>I'm going to open a bug in ubuntu bugtracker about defaulting their irc clients to point at irc.debian.org :)
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17:43<azeem>dkr: I believe it's fixed in hardy
17:43<dkr>oh yeah,or that new thing they opened where people can vote on ideas
17:43<azeem>but feel free to check that
17:43<mambo>dondelelcaro: werks! thanks
17:43<mambo>^_^
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17:49<lupine>anyone know if you can get a 3G wireless internet (USB dongle thingy) working with Debian?
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17:58<sven>!ipw3945
17:58<dpkg>If you're running a recent version of Debian (etch or greater), do the following: add <contrib> and <non-free> entries in your sources.list, "aptitude update && aptitude install ipw3945-modules-$(uname -r) firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d && modprobe ipw3945".. As of 2.6.24 in the kernel tree, see the firmware-iwlwifi package
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18:04<arw>helo guys.. i have a problem on "target file system" doesnt have "/sbin/init"
18:04<arw>it is a fresh installation on acer aspire 4220
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18:12<Naosu>Hello everyone, =) could someone help me out with a few questions problems ^-^
18:13<dkr>!ask
18:13<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
18:14<ardoRic>arw, is your bootloader pointing to the right / ?
18:16<Naosu>Thank you! Hello I am having a problem with LIRC; I'm Running Debian 2.6.18. I do not know how to configure LIRC, ^-^ I Can not seem to follow what some Faq's about it elsewhere.
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18:22<Naosu>ohright, @.@ My problem currently is in efforts to begin using LIRC, i run command "mode2" I get "mode2: error opening /dev/lirc
18:22<Naosu>mode2: No such file or director
18:22<Naosu>" wheen i should get an output of values(numbers)
18:22<ardoRic>perhaps you're missing some modules ?
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18:28<Naosu>I belive all modules are in check
18:29<ardoRic>when you load the module, does anything appear on dmesg ?
18:30<Naosu>What is "dmesg" ._. I am new to Linux.
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18:31<ardoRic>it's a command
18:31<rrbox>how about reloading a module ?
18:31<ardoRic>you run it on the console
18:31<rrbox>i how does one do that
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18:32<rrbox>i mean*
18:33<Naosu>in my Xterm I should just simply have mode2 in the command line and it spits out "mode2: error opening /dev/lirc \/ mode2: No such file or director"
18:33<rrbox>my usb bluetooth doesn't always get turned on
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18:39*Naosu »» WinAmp (Playing) «» Rammstien - Sehnsucht «» 01:50/04:04 ««
18:39<azeem>Naosu: please turn that off
18:39<Naosu>eh, x.x sorry @.@
18:39<azeem>np
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18:44<onewithna>May I get a few quick opinions from experienced linux debian users for a first time linux newbie on the best desktop environment?
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18:45<sven>!flash-plugin
18:45<sven>!flash
18:45<dpkg>rumour has it, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> for a free implementation or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
18:45<sven>!gnash
18:45<dpkg>i heard gnash is a GNU project to create a free software player for movies in Shockwave Flash format. Its developers plan on writing a stand-alone player and a plugin for Firefox. Plugins for other browsers may also be written afterwards. Writing a free software Flash-player has been a priority of the GNU project for some time. Before the launch of Gnash, the GNU project asked for people to assist the GPLFlash project. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
18:45<ardoRic>onewithna, i use gnome
18:45<sven>!adobe flash
18:45<dpkg>Adobe flash is a non-free flash player and is in the package flashplugin-nonfree but is broken in etch: use the one from backports.org or flashplayer-mozilla from debian-multimedia.org (ask me about <non-free>, <bpo> and <dmm>). It will not be included in future stable releases (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). If you are using a 64-bit browser, ask me about <nspluginwrapper>. For a free alternative, ask me about <gnash>.
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18:47<vortex>sven: please /msg dpkg =)
18:47*ardoRic was thinking about that
18:47<sven>vortex: kay :P
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18:48<sven>some ban you if you msg bots lol didnt know if i really should do that :)
18:48*vortex points at topic
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18:48<ardoRic>why would someone ban you for sparing them the automated messages only you are interested in ?
18:49<sven>okay installed hehe :)
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18:49<azeem>ardoRic: it was a general statement, not specific to this chan I suppose
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18:52<robokop>i want to try freebsd, should i use crosshurd or just get a freebsd image from freebsd.org
18:53<abrotman>robokop: this is #debian
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18:53<chealer>onewithna: IMO KDE, otherwise GNOME
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18:54<azeem>robokop: for kfreebsd, you can try crosshurd
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18:58<onewithna>sorry, was away, Which is your preference KDE or Gnome.. I am currently trying both.
18:59<ardoRic>if you are trying them out, figure ou what you prefer for yourself. we cant do that for you
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18:59<robokop>azeem, and what partition type should i use (or is there an howto)
18:59<onewithna>Well Said.
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19:00<azeem>robokop: dunno, try #gnu-kbsd on irc.freenode.net
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19:00<robokop>azeem, i'm feeling lonely there
19:01<azeem>robokop: you didn't write all I said
19:01<azeem>or think you're on freenode already
19:01<robokop>azeem sorry most of the time i'm on freenode
19:01<robokop>forgot debian is on oftc
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19:08<chump_>hey guys i'm writing a script and looking to see if i can test a file in a for i statement to see if its a folder? people have suggest test -f but it doesn't giv eme a real response
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19:09<robokop>test -d tests if somefile exists and if its a directory
19:10<robokop>for i in `ls`; do [ -d $i ] && echo $i; done # echo all directory names in current dir
19:11<chump_>robokop pimping it
19:11<chump_>thats going to take me a minute to process haha
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19:20<chump_>thank you robokop
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19:38<sven>well debian lenny runs buggy on my notebook :( i have screen lags often times and when i watch a video the screen stays like a screenshot for 100ms every 3nd second or so :(
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19:41<Xenguy>sven: that's broken - but you knew that :-)
19:41<Xenguy>sven: what about stable ?
19:42<sven>Xenguy: huh? i didnt knew testing was broken i thought testing is approved a bit since its only testing after some weeks into sid tested :)
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19:42<sven>Xenguy: stable is to old low res desktop icons and such things :/
19:43<Xenguy>sven: it's not that old is it?
19:43<Xenguy>sven: a few months?
19:43<azeem>about a year
19:43<sven>well 2.6.18 kernel
19:43<Xenguy>sven: sounds right...
19:43<azeem>plus another half a year of freeze
19:43<Xenguy>sven: well I *want* trailing edge/stable...
19:44<sven>i want both hehe ^^
19:44<Xenguy>sven: backports seems to be enough these days, and if I get desperate I can always go to testing like I always eventually do ;-)
19:44<sven>a vista killer bleeding edge stable linux environment to have fun with and to present to others who get big eyes :P
19:45<Xenguy>sven: moral: don't switch to testing or unstable to soon after stable release...
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19:45<Xenguy>sven: if you want eye candy, use compiz or some such
19:45<sven>well i am at testing but it lags hehe when i run system monitor and let it draw CPU usage at the upper panel in a 100pixel box every 50ms refreshing normally it worked fine but at lenny it lags
19:45<sven>ah i see i didnt know that i shouldnt switch to testing then :(
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19:46<sven>can i switch back maybe?
19:46<Xenguy>sven: I don't know about these newer kernels actually...
19:46<emanukoz>Hi! I was just wondering what kernel version the debian-testing is?
19:46<azeem>sven: downgrades are not supported
19:46<emanukoz>thinking on the on here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/
19:46<sven>args x.x okay thank you azeem
19:47<Xenguy>sven: I noticed some issue awhile back, and it just reinforced the notion in my mind that I am lazy these days and don't want to fix any more computers, so stable is the sweet spot :-)
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19:47<sven>Xenguy: um well yes but um yeah you know :x when you work at xp mediacenter edition and you look at this shiny taskbar then you want this too ^^"
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19:48<sven>sadly there's no theme i found what comes near to that "royale" theme :/
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19:52<emanukoz>!iwlwifi
19:52<dpkg>it has been said that iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.23 (modprobe iwl4965 or iwl3945) and is difficult to get working with kernels < 2.6.21. Firmware provided by the 'firmware-iwlwifi' package (lenny/sid). HOWTO at http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi or #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net, or <wireless tree>
19:52<sven>i need an productive but same time good looking desktop what looks modern
19:53<Xenguy>sven: I know lots of people want eye candy, but that's all it is, butt-ugly just doesn't disturb me I guess :-) Honestly I'm at the command line at least 50% of my time it seems, so it's just not a big deal. Default GNOME desktop for me is plenty and fully satisfactory :-)
19:53<Xenguy>sven: (and really, compiz or beryl are probably the easiest way to impress these days :-)
19:54<sven>i dont need glass effects or jelly borders :)
19:54<Xenguy>heheh
19:54<sven>only a nice glossy panel design what looks pretty creamy or so
19:54<Xenguy>BTW I didn't mean to suggest that GNOME was "butt-ugly"; I think it looks great really
19:55<amphi>sven: look at gnome-look.org or somewhere for glutinous-looking gtk themes, I guess
19:55<sven>amphi: okay :-) thank you
19:55*Xenguy cranks some tunes...
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19:56<amphi>sven: neutronium gilouche if you like darkish and somewhat shiny
19:56<amphi>perhaps
19:56*amphi has been through his dark theme phase and emerged relatively unscathed
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19:57<sven>amphi: found no entrys for neutronium gilouche hehe
19:58<sven>http://home.arcor.de/haiduc1010/winhistory/mce.jpg <-- look here ^^ yes taskbar isnt fixed so this annoying line is above it but you see what i mean with shiny :)
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19:58<sven>the start button and this creamy color for task buttons hehe
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20:00<amphi>sven: that ss is hideous IMHO
20:00<sven>nooo i found one but its beryl only :'(
20:00<sven>amphi: huh? what do you mean?
20:01<amphi>sven: that screenshot - it's astonishingly ugly
20:01<sven>why?
20:01<amphi>I find it repulsive ;) a matter of taste, no doubt
20:02<sven>well...the original blue xp theme is ugly yes i agree but this one i think looks fine
20:02<amphi>to each, their own
20:02<chealer>emanukoz: 2.6.22
20:02*Xenguy find it to be just a blue them (and fine for computing BTW ;-)
20:03<Xenguy>gha finds* theme*
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20:07<sven>but mac theme would be okay too hehe :)
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20:23<vonsanchez>afternoon
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21:17<Gheekaru>Bonne nuit/Good night/Gute Nacht.
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21:40<tiemeyer>where is the openarena channel?
21:41<tiemeyer>(if there is one)
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21:43<gsimmons>tiemeyer: #openarena on irc.anynet.org.
21:44<tiemeyer>thanxish!
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21:47<RIVE>Hello, good evening.
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21:50<Oneils>evening
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21:54<mike1000>can anyone help me set up a dmcrypt container file? following http://feraga.com/library/howto_use_cryptsetup_with_luks_support_0 to try and make an 18gb file using " dd if=/dev/urandom of=annovol bs=1M count=18800" is causing some kind of system crash
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21:59<esteban>hola
21:59<RIVE>Hi, esteban.
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22:44<adament>I am sorry to barge in like this but I am completely stuck
22:44<adament>I have a script which is run by cron
22:44<adament>But eventhough I update the script cron keeps running the older version
22:44<adament>Even after a reboot
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22:45<adament>It still happens when I rename the script
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22:51<adament>Nobody has any idea about the cause of this?
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23:01<pintocar83>/say $ip
23:01<blarson>adament: it sounds like crontab isn't pointing at that copy of your script
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23:04<emerson>Hi
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23:05<adament>Well the funny thing is I point it at /usr/bin/backup.sh and the script is /usr/bin/backup.sh
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23:06<emerson>I have tested the following command with suse and other distros:
23:06<emerson> $ lynx -dump http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/index.rdf | egrep '[a-z]'
23:06<emerson> at debian, I got the output:
23:06<emerson>Binary file (standard input) matches
23:06<emerson>using suse, I got the RSS html
23:06<emerson>any idea?
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23:39<alephnull>emerson: Check the version and the build options ?
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23:41<emerson>version is the same. build options i dont know
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23:41<emerson>but I think is something with mailcap
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23:43<emerson>when I lynx that url without -dump, i got a question to download the file (application/x-gzip)
23:44<emerson>adding these options in my .mailcap i can see the html. but dont work with -dump
23:44<emerson>application/x-gzip; zcat | less; needsterminal
23:44<emerson>application/x-gunzip; zcat | less; needsterminal
23:44<emerson>application/x-gzip; zcat; copiousoutput
23:44<emerson>application/x-gunzip; zcat; copiousoutput
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