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---Logopened Tue Mar 04 00:00:10 2008
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00:04<trelane>is there a way to force a restart of a specific interface rather than the every network interface on the system using debian's initscripts?
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00:11<motalus-organixc>hey, anyone perhaps up for a couple questions about php? Been trying to teach myself since last friday and ran into 2 kinks i can't figure out about it
00:12<motalus-organixc>gef: thanks
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00:16<Justin-H>Does anyone know of anything to watch out for when installing Debian on an IBM R61?
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00:19<trelane>Justin-H, not offhand
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00:20<trelane>is there a way to force a restart of a specific interface rather than the every network interface on the system using debian's initscripts?
00:22<chealer>trelane: what do you mean by restarting an interface?
00:23<trelane>chealer: I have an 4-in-6 tunnel that's misbehaving, I'd like to restart just it
00:23<trelane>gentoo splits interfaces into individual init scripts, debian does not
00:23<trelane>I'm wondering what the best common practice is for restarting just the one interface
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00:27<Tr3buchet>hello debians!
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00:29<Tr3buchet>i wonder if.. let's see here.. GENTOO > DEBIAN!!
00:30<Tr3buchet>oh my not even a peep!
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00:38<Tr3buchet>is anyone in here knowledgeable about wine? Not nitty gritty type stuff. Just some general questions?
00:39<p_quarles>Tr3buchet: what's your general question?
00:40<Tr3buchet>well hello again p_quarles!
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00:41<Tr3buchet>my question: what sorts of things are you able to run with wine? I have a few specific windows applications that would cement my switch if i were able to run them.
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00:41<Tr3buchet>and also, i'm curious about games.
00:41<p_quarles>Tr3buchet: there's a list at their web site (, I think)
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00:41<p_quarles>they also have an IRC channel on
00:44<Tr3buchet>i am quite surprised at the games list
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00:47<Tr3buchet>eve online is the top application. craziness
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00:48<Tr3buchet>out of the top 25 only one isn't a game.. and it's photoshop
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00:51<p_quarles>Tr3buchet: well, pretty much everything else has a good open source equivalent
00:51<Tr3buchet>yeah thats pretty true
00:51<Tr3buchet>i wonder..
00:51<Tr3buchet>open is source is one thing
00:51<Tr3buchet>but how do you feel about not-open source but yet free apps?
00:51<Tr3buchet>for example trillian
00:52<p_quarles>I don't use them at all, actually; kopete for IM, and konversation for IRC
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00:54<Tr3buchet>i've used trillian long enough that all the others have tried just get on my nerves by being a tad bit different..
00:54<p_quarles>well, actually I do use opera, for testing web pages; I don't mind non-free "free" software, but I much prefer FLOSS
00:55<Tr3buchet>free something open source?
00:55<p_quarles>free/libre open source -- to clarify the vagueness of "free" in English
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00:57<Tr3buchet>what do you use to mount backup .iso images in linux?
00:58<p_quarles>hmm -- I don't use .isos for backup, but I believe that K3b can do that
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00:59<p_quarles>there's also fuseiso, a standalone application
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01:02<dylan>not sure if this'd be the place to ask about this, but here goes-- (sid, linux- custom) i'm toying around with the parkbd module, trying to connect my model m to my laptop via parallel. wired up the converter as per the schematics, and can't get it to work. was wondering if any of you have played with it and know of any potential caveats with it's usage.
01:03<dylan>module loads fine, doesn't say anything other than it's loaded fine, and the keyboard POSTs fine (getting the +5v for it from usb) but doesn't generate any output. :/
01:04<dylan>google's also apparently useless for this, hence my asking here.
01:04<chealer>Tr3buchet: mount
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01:04<Tr3buchet>you can mount an iso?
01:04<Tr3buchet>i was just considering that idea
01:05<dylan>mount -o loop foo.iso /mount/point
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01:16<Rahmat>somebody help me please
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01:19<gsimmons>Rahmat: You'll first need to describe your problem.
01:19<Rahmat>gsimmons : thank you
01:19<Rahmat>how to setting snmp.conf in debian etch box
01:19<Rahmat>I'll install snmp client
01:20<Rahmat>I've tried to much article, but still not working
01:20<JustSoul>How yo switch off ipv6 in dhcp-client (or in OS at all)?
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01:21<Rahmat>I dont know hot to disable it
01:21<EmleyMoor>Has anyone successfully run Google Earth on etch? The googleearth-package was of no help.
01:21<Rahmat>I dont know how to disable it
01:21<gef>Rahmat, isn't there an snmpconf that walks you through configuring snmp?
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01:24<Rahmat>I tried to follow example at
01:24<Rahmat>but still work
01:25<jm_>what exactly doesn't work?
01:25<Rahmat>i cant graph my client
01:25<Rahmat>snmp error
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01:26<jm_>use snmpwalk
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01:27<gsimmons>JustSoul: If you're not using IPv6, you can blacklist the ipv6 module to prevent it from being loaded.
01:27<gsimmons>!tell JustSoul -about blacklist
01:27<JustSoul>gsimmons: thx
01:28<Rahmat>gsimmons : how to disable ipv6
01:29<jm_>heh someone keeps changing that blacklist factoid - that's not a proper way
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01:36<JustSoul>What's mean : " 338 JustSoul dpkg :actually using host"
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01:40<JustSoul>What's mean: " 338 JustSoul dpkg :actually using host" ?
01:40<JustSoul>every ~30 secs
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01:42<jm_>JustSoul: that's part of whois reply - your client is requesting whois for dpkg it seems
01:46<Rahmat>snmpwalk -v1 -c wlan
01:46<Rahmat>Timeout: No Response from
01:47<Rahmat>otherwise I've set the community name to wlan
01:47<Rahmat>and source
01:47<Rahmat>whats wrong with my snmp config?
01:53<JustSoul>On two PCs: yesterday error with dhcp(configs are normal, same as others PC). At boot it couldn't take IP, after boot, everything goes OK..
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01:57<jm_>Rahmat: first of all make sure it actually listens (also on non localhost IP)
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01:58<gef>Rahman, also try with v2
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01:59<Slydder>morning all
02:07<JustSoul>Another quest=) I have keyboard with very much additional keys, how to work with them?
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02:09<chealer>JustSoul: try finding the right keyboard model and use it if it exists
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02:10<Rahmat>snmpwalk -v2c -c public
02:10<Rahmat>Timeout: No Response from
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02:10<jm_>JustSoul: I use lineakd
02:11<Rahmat><jm_> Rahmat: first of all make sure it actually listens (also on non localhost IP) < I know, but how to make my snmp listen to another host
02:11<Rahmat>actually now listen on localhost
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02:22<jm_>so try snmpwalk on localhost
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02:30<Rahmat>but if i try to snmpwalk another host is not work
02:30<Rahmat>remote snmp error
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02:37<Tuplad>how can I check wether I'm still connected to a server ? I added a ftp server in gnome, connected to it, but it wasnt working that well so I disconnected and "unmounted" it, but when I try to connect through an ftp client it says cant allow 2 users. can I check wether I'm still connected to it ? (like netstat in windows)
02:38<jm_>netstat will show it
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02:45<duke>how to know current runlevel and running services, except ps aux, but like in gentoo rc-status?
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02:46<JustSoul>duke: runlevel
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02:47<duke>runlevel - rhis one shows only runlevel isn't it?
02:47<vook>duke: and /etc/inittab shows the default
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02:48<duke><vook> i want to see which daemons actually running :)
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02:49<vook>duke: /var/run ?
02:50<duke>well :) might be right way
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02:50<vook>that's probably what rc-status looks at
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02:50<duke>must be
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03:23<Schreck>Did anyone get problem when ./configure snort ?
03:23<Schreck>configure: error: libipq.h not found ...
03:24<Schreck>But the package is installed... :/
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03:41<gsimmons>Schreck: Sounds like you need to install 'iptables-dev'. See snort's doc/README.INLINE for more details.
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03:42<Schreck>gsimmons it's installed ! :/
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03:46<JustSoul>hello again
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03:50<jm_>tell it to include libipq/libipq.h
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04:00<Schreck>jm_ okay... How should I tell it ? :)
04:00<jm_>Schreck: well pass -I/usr/include/libipq.h
04:00<jm_>or edit the source file it uses
04:01<jm_>why are you compilign snort anyway?
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04:06<Schreck>Mmmm to try compiling
04:06<Schreck>For using
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04:12<jm_>you can use Debian package and compile with custom flags
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04:17<Schreck>jm_ Okay. I don't know how to do, I'll check with this procedure ! :)
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04:21<onewithna>anyone tell me how to edit/configure superkaramba themes? I installed Dartchik sys mon... but 90% of it doesnt work.. i have ksensors working fine with the use of k8temp and hdtemp.. Dartchik theme doesnt pick it up.
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04:22<onewithna>or even better point me to a sweet sys mon that is visually appealing and fuctional/comprehensive
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04:26<onewithna>last time i tried to install the packages... my system crashed.... dumped like 3000 files on my desktop... was a mess
04:27<onewithna>dont know if it makes a diff... but amd64 here
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04:37<padski>where is the interface to /etc/network/if-up.d/ progs documented ?
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04:41<jm_>man interfaces
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04:42<|dvl|>Hi folks
04:42<padski>thanks jm_ I see it now.
04:43<|dvl|>Is anybody able to help with a MAC/interface mapping issue in etch?
04:44<jm_>|dvl|: nope
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04:44<|dvl|>jm_: Any idea where to ask?
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04:45<jm_>|dvl|: you could start by explaining your problem here, and stop asking yes/no questions
04:48<|dvl|>Since udev is used, the mapping of physical network interfaces to names like eth0 is kind of messed up. I need to find a solution where I define that e.g. an interface is named eth0|eth1 when MAC ist starting with 00:30:48
04:49<padski>in /proc/net/if_inet6 there is an index field (second field), is there something like this for ip4 ?
04:49<|dvl|>But: It has to be kind of dynamic. Getting the exact MAC and setting it is no solution since the istallation is done by FAI and a bunch of servers needs to be setup autoatically
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04:52<jm_>|dvl|: write your own rules then
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04:54<onewithna>jm_ I know your helping somone at the moment but let me ask you this.... I looked into the gkrellm packages again... and istalled the ver 2.2.9-1 but i need a newer version to work with k8temp sensors..... As, i mentioned before about a system crash... if i scan the sid repository ver 2.3.1-1 is avail but as dependancies... says is going to remove gnome, nautilis and alot of "must have" items...
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04:54<onewithna>I am new to linux so please tell me what you think
04:55<jm_>onewithna: right, I think simple sid backport is the easiest option
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04:55<|dvl|>jm_: Thats my intention, too. But is it possoble to script inside this file? My intention is to read all the MACs and assigning them to variables and then running the whole stuff...
04:55<jm_>onewithna: is sensors command reporting it properly?
04:56<onewithna>ksensors works great with the aid of k8temp and hddtemp.... buts its ugly and always in the way
04:57<onewithna>with gkrellm only give HD temp
04:57<onewithna>a google gives needed version update to work with k8temp
04:57<jm_>|dvl|: you can run scripts with udev yes (RUN), read writing udev rules document
04:57<onewithna>i know nothing about backports
04:57<jm_>onewithna: yeah I did it that way too
04:57<jm_>!simple sid backport
04:57<dpkg>First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs.
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05:24<padski>how do I convert to
05:25<jm_>programatically or manually?
05:25<padski>jm_, programatically. iproute doesn't seem to like the former :-(
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05:26<padski>I expect I could do it with perl ...
05:27<padski>I actually get the input in two vars $IF_NETWORK/$IF_NETMASK
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05:29<DTE>hi all
05:29<DTE>anybody tried to compile red5 on debian etch with ant 1.7?
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05:30<padski>DTE, you ?
05:30<DTE>yes and i falied :-)
05:31<jm_>padski: hmm I was hoping sipcalc could do it but can't figure it out
05:31<jm_>padski: it does print Network mask if you get it to work :)
05:31<jm_>bits for network mask that is
05:32<amphi>padski: install netmask ;)
05:33<jm_>ahh heh special tool for that
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05:34<padski>amphi, thank you, exactly what I needed :-)
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05:35<amphi>padski: welcome ;)
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05:39<wayneward>i noticed kdbase 3.5.9 in unstable today any ide when new latest kontact being uploaded
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06:02<kurumin>alque sabe cofigurar squid
06:03<ravenbird>it has been said that br is Brazil
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06:03<Maulkin>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
06:04<kurumin>como eu configuro o squid para montar um proxy
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06:04<themill>Maulkin: I wish simonrvn would resync ravenbird's db against dpkg.... A lot of ravenbird's factoids are out of date like that.
06:05<Tharos>kurumin, no falamos portugues, por favor fala en ingles o use #debian-br
06:05<Maulkin>kurumin: --> #debian-br
06:07<kurumin>quero montar um proxy
06:08<kurumin>eu noa estou cosigino configurar o squid
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06:10<themill>kurumin: Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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06:13<themill>Is "kurumin" the Portuguese equivalent of "Smith" or is it the same guy that keeps coming back? (I'm sure we've been through this many times before with a guy called kurumin)
06:16<azeem>themill: it's a knoppix-like distro from Brazil
06:16<gsimmons>themill: It's the name of a Debian-based distribution. I can only assume this is the default nick/username within supplied IRC client software.
06:16<azeem>so its their default login
06:17<themill>azeem, gsimmons: that makes sense
06:18*themill feels slightly silly for asking now...
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06:28<padski>I've figured out that
06:28<padski>FOO=`echo 'foo\bar\' | sed 's/\\\/ /g'`; echo $FOO
06:28<padski>works, but why do I need the extra \
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06:29<ronald>ik ben op zoek naar dunk (bart)
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06:29<jm_>pathat can't work
06:29<jm_>padski: ^^^
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06:30<padski>jm_, huh ?
06:30<jm_>padski: try echo 'foo\bar\'
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06:31<jm_>hah it works in bash
06:31<padski>jm_, arent backticks a bashism ?
06:32<jm_>padski: no, I was thinking it would interprete \' as missing final '
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06:33<padski>like echo "\""
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06:34<_ZeuZ_>Hi, I need help to enable P2P services to a total number of 93 users coming through a 1mb/1mb connection, how can I achieve that? I've allready insallled linux-igd and configured it, but it does not work as expected....
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06:38<padski>_ZeuZ_, what P2P does this UPnP stuff ?
06:39<petemc>p2p for 93 users on a 1meg line sounds like a stupid idea
06:39<padski>simultaneously ?
06:41<E0x>padski: some edonkey clients and bittorrent already upnp ready
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06:42<mi^>Hello, i have question about gamin [gam_server] FAM replacement i've installed that and now i can't remove it without removing whole courier* [dependencies] any possible way to remove it without removing all courier packages? i've tried to install fam but it also wants to remove courier* now.
06:42<padski>interesting. would ipv6 be an attractive alternative ?
06:43<padski>mi^, you can swap stuff about using stuff like
06:43<padski>mi^, apt-get install foo bar-
06:44<padski>mi^, where the minus indicates to remove bar
06:44<mi^>so i have to try apt-get install fam gamin- ?
06:44<padski>mi^, sounds plausible
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06:46<_ZeuZ_>padski: why does it sound like a stupid idea? no, they won't use it simouiltaneouslt, the maximum number of users doing it would be 10 users...
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06:47<_ZeuZ_>petemc: why does it sound like a stupid idea? no, they won't use it simouiltaneouslt, the maximum number of users doing it would be 10 users...
06:47<_ZeuZ_>sorry, I mis-sended xD
06:48<_ZeuZ_>thingy would be to allow them to use them... I'll control de traffic with TC but I want them to have access... how can I do it?
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06:50<padski>when I attempt to install fam on my system it threatens to remove 346 packages :-0
06:51<padski>admittedly there are several I didn't know I had
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06:52<padski>mi^, try apt-get install fam libfam0 gamin-
06:52<mi^>ah ok sec
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06:54<mi^>padski: apt-get install fam libfam0 gamin- libgamin0- did job :) big thnx
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06:55<_ZeuZ_>what does the - switch does on that lines?
06:56<engywuck_>anyone having installed debian on EEE?
06:56<engywuck_>haven't got networking, despite saying otherwise in installation description :)
06:56<padski>_ZeuZ_, it says remove
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06:58<engywuck_>ah, learnt sth new, padski
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06:59<_ZeuZ_>guys, any idea on how to do the p2p thing ?
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06:59<jm_>why use upnp at all?
06:59<padski>93 x SNAT
07:00<engywuck_>what p2p protocol?
07:00<_ZeuZ_>engywuck: gnutella (limewire, frostwire, ares)
07:00<engywuck_>93 users simultanuously on a bittorrent "server" seems possible :)
07:00<_ZeuZ_>told ya guys, won't be the 93 at the same time, the most that they would be simultaneously would be 7-11
07:01<engywuck_>hmmm.... set a maximum connections number on these servers?
07:01<_ZeuZ_>thing is that the users can perform searches, but cannot download (low id)
07:02<engywuck_>which ports do these progs use?
07:02<engywuck_>i seem to recall that some use multiple ports
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07:04<_ZeuZ_>that's the main reason wh I ask for help
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07:06<_ZeuZ_>as far as I know, I have all my ports unlocked for the clients, since I'm forwarding all the traffic, may I paste the rules I'm using for iptables in pastebin for you ?
07:06<petemc>done paste here
07:06<petemc>oh, pastebin - i should learn to read
07:06<engywuck_>i'm not too much of a firewalls-for-servers-guy myself
07:07<engywuck_>but for all others, well...
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07:10<_ZeuZ_>oh, and Ignore the Spanish comments, Argentinian thingies ;)
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07:12<jm_>drop for forward chain is causing problems
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07:14<_ZeuZ_>jm_ : Why do you say so ?
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07:14<jm_>_ZeuZ_: because your default policy is DROP so for every client behind it you need a rule
07:14<jm_>!iptables tutorial
07:14<dpkg>it has been said that iptables tutorial is
07:15<_ZeuZ_>anything more likely to a *GOOD* spanish tutorial? cuz I read enough like to go there, but now I kinda got lost...
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07:16<engywuck_>would have been my question too:
07:16<engywuck_>your firewall says you have only one comp on the connection, not a network
07:16<_ZeuZ_>though, if you think that the DROP policy on the forward is messing, I'll just remove it, or change it to ACCEPT
07:16<LoLLo>i need halp !!!! I've been banned in Ubuntu servers , when does i can return there ? can someone enter there and ask it for me ? pleaseeeeeeeeee i need that channel !!!!
07:16<engywuck_>so limewire would be on the same comp as the firewall?
07:16<_ZeuZ_>because it's not bridged.. it's routing
07:17<_ZeuZ_>LoLLo: what did you do ?
07:17<LoLLo>spam ... lol
07:17<_ZeuZ_>then you desearve it lol...
07:17<engywuck_>but your incoming packets NEED to go to the correct computer in the LAN
07:17<_ZeuZ_>they are going correctly ...
07:18<LoLLo>sigh sigh please i need to know ZeuZ
07:18<LoLLo>ask it for mee !
07:18<_ZeuZ_>as for the time going, I'm on a station with WinXP located at, and I'll paste you the outpu of arp -va from the server on pastebgin arround now
07:18<LoLLo>i'm a linux newbie and sometimes i need help uhuh
07:20<_ZeuZ_>packages are going quite well to their places this way, for ports up to 1023 anyways, MSN Messenger also works without hessitation...thingy goes to P2P and some other random ports... any idea ?
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07:21<LoLLo>please ZeuZ do a favour for me :(
07:21<qq_>LoLLo install debian
07:21<_ZeuZ_>no, I won't... change your nick, and go again. Ask, redeem yourself. If IP banned, then change your nick and use a proxy, then redeem yourself.
07:22<LoLLo>what is debian ? isn't debian the engine of ubuntu ?
07:22<LoLLo>ok i try
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07:23<LoLLo>omg I'll do it later
07:23<engywuck_>my active firewall days are a while gone
07:23<_ZeuZ_>Debian is the mother of Ubuntu. The parent distribution from wich Ubuntu was born, and ubuntu only creates bums that are afraid of consoles..
07:23<LoLLo>no ZeuZ i've been IP banned ... now ?
07:23<Daviey>_ZeuZ_: o rly
07:24<jm_>change isp
07:24<_ZeuZ_>LoLLo: use a proxy and reconnect, you'll have a different IP
07:24<engywuck_>you sure that anything coming to yore router at port 6346 or whatever limewire uses goes to the correct comp in your LAN?
07:24<_ZeuZ_>jm_: that's kinda drastic...
07:24<LoLLo>how can i use a proxy ? what's a proxy ?
07:24<LoLLo>( sry ... )
07:24<_ZeuZ_>engywuck: not really... xD
07:24<engywuck_>LoLLo: if you got banned with IP you deserve it
07:25<engywuck_>don't whine and behave yourself next time
07:25<_ZeuZ_>LoLLo: google is your friend. and so Wikipedia. Browse, try, learn.
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07:25<LoLLo>lol yes thx
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07:25<engywuck_>damn, don't find my router config anymore
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07:26<_ZeuZ_>engywuck: all the other ports seem to work fine, 1863 and the parent ports that MSN uses are working hella well.. I can see that almost a 1/7 of my traffic goes to MSN Messenger (perhaps because I have 2 cybercofees under my network with 15 and 18 PCs each )
07:27<engywuck>you have OUTGOING to MSN fine?
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07:28<engywuck>that means *nothing* for your prob on not being able to have a limewire Server with lotsa INCOMING connections
07:28<_ZeuZ_>WebCAMS and Audio also works, something messing with the P2P is the problem actually, and some random ports having low speeds...
07:28<engywuck>you need to make sure that *anything* going to a specified port goes to the correct comp in the LAN
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07:28<engywuck>so if anyone in the WAN wants to connect to your server
07:29<engywuck>makes an INCOMING from WAN interface to a port
07:29<_ZeuZ_>technically, as they're being marked, everything that goes outside, comes back inside...
07:29<engywuck>you need to redirect to a *specified* comp in the LAN
07:29<engywuck>but if you want to have a server
07:29<engywuck>your LAN doesn't initiate
07:29<engywuck>the clients want to be able to initiate :)
07:30<_ZeuZ_>we had a freeBSD 4.1 before, but the guy that told me to set up this new server, screwed it up big time with the last one...
07:30<engywuck>oh wait
07:30<_ZeuZ_>engywuck: another thing: since I installed linux-igd, this PC ( is the only one able to use Limewire, is there any relation ?
07:30<engywuck>did i get this wrong?
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07:31<_ZeuZ_>come again ?
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07:31<engywuck>you want 80 ppl in your LAN to be able to connect outwards to limewire?
07:31<_ZeuZ_>yes, not necesarily yo upload, but to download thigns...
07:31<engywuck>or have one limewire server for 80 ppl?
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07:31<YAPDog>Can anyone point me at any docs that explain the options to partman-auto/expert_recipe please?
07:32<_ZeuZ_>no, I want those people to be able to connect to other peers and download.. they can search allready, but cannot download...
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07:32<engywuck>query, becomes too specific :)
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07:35<gsimmons>YAPDog: Install the 'debian-installer' package, see /usr/share/doc/debian-installer/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt.gz
07:36<YAPDog>That's perfect, thank you.
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07:43<JustSoul>Helloo, how to khow where am I in dirs?
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07:44<jm_>how to know what?
07:44<_ZeuZ_>JustSoul: pwd
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07:47<padski>is there a way to get iproute2 to add a second default route ?
07:48<DTE>a second default route?
07:48<DTE>if i remember well you can use the queue to differente gw
07:49<_ZeuZ_>padski: as far as I know, you can add a preferred route if default is too load charged
07:49<padski>DTE, you mean "don't do that" ?
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07:50<DTE>padski: actually i don't even know if it's possible...maybe as _ZeuZ_ said, you can add a backup route
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07:51<padski>with old-fashioned route you simply route add-net default gw dev if1 or whatever
07:51<padski>add -net
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07:54<_ZeuZ_>can anybody open this?
07:54<DTE>_ZeuZ_: i can't
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07:57<_ZeuZ_>then even LimeWire's wiki is down xD
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07:58<_ZeuZ_>Guest28: What? ¨o)
07:58<padski>replacements for ifupdown ?
07:59<Guest28>how to configure webcam?
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08:00<_ZeuZ_>Guest28: that depends greately on the cam...
08:00<_ZeuZ_>load the module, and then test it with gcam or whatever
08:01<Guest28>enet webcam
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08:03<Guest28>anybody there?
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08:05<JustSoul>Guest.. yes..
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08:10<_ZeuZ_>has left the building
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08:13<padski>having looked at ifupdown, pppd and dhcp3 I've decided I'm going to write the same script three times ... after lunch ;-)
08:16<Wesley>(either gdbm or libmemcache) and pcre are require, but were not found, aborting - i've installed memcached, and libmemcache-dev (all I could find)
08:16<Wesley>where do I find gdbm?
08:17<Wesley>I do have libgdbm3
08:17<_ZeuZ_>Nice question, ask
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08:19<Wesley>I'm trying to make lighttpd work with mod_trigger_b4_dl; I thought I had all required packeges, but obviously I do not
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08:24<_ZeuZ_>well, after installing those 2 packages, try again...
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08:25<Wesley>I did, or tried anyways _ZeuZ_
08:25<JustSoul>How can it be: $USER=Kazak $HOME=/home/kazak ?
08:25<JustSoul>why big and small "K"
08:25<Wesley>but it still reports the same
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08:26<_ZeuZ_>lol, weirdo...
08:27<JustSoul>Some user's names start from small letter and some user's names start from big. But everybody's accountName start from small letter
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08:27<JustSoul>how can it be?
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08:27<_ZeuZ_>JustSoul: Debian allows usernames with lowecases, and in the installer, the expert installation, it allows you but it adverts that things might misbehave...
08:27<Wesley>Who are you referring to _ZeuZ_?
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08:30<jworkman01>Can anyone tell me how I can make sure that I have the latest Debian upgrade? And how do I maintain distro upgrades through terminal?
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08:31<JustSoul>_ZeuZ_: I have MS Active Direcory connected by winbind
08:31<JustSoul>jworkman01: aptitude
08:31<suiside>jworkman01: readthe apt howto on
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08:32<_ZeuZ_>!s/readthe/reat the/
08:36<_ZeuZ_>now that I think...
08:36<_ZeuZ_>wouldn't it have been easy to tell him to do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
08:37<JustSoul>_ZeuZ_: How to check it in the installed system?
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08:38<_ZeuZ_>damn the LimeWire servers... website for support (wiki) is sooooo down
08:38<_ZeuZ_>there's a glitch for it to drop installed packages with the versions...
08:38<_ZeuZ_>though, for upgrading them to the last version, apt-get is the best...
08:38<_ZeuZ_>it deals way better than aptitude with dependencies
08:39<JustSoul>I'm about usernames with lowecases
08:39<_ZeuZ_>oh, sorry...
08:39<_ZeuZ_>well, dunno how to fix that though xD
08:39<_ZeuZ_>perhaps you can change the path, or rename the dir and change the variable in path
08:40<_ZeuZ_>and you must change the file that holds the users start place...
08:40<_ZeuZ_>don't remeber what file was that though...
08:41<jm_>JustSoul: getent passwd
08:41<JustSoul>kazakova:*:10012:10004:ëÁÚÁËÏ×Á î.é.:/home/kazakova:/bin/bas
08:41<JustSoul>but $USER is "Kazakova"
08:42<Baggy2>For some reason, g++ refuses to see symbolic links when linking.. What should I do? I am getting pretty frustrated :(
08:43<jm_>JustSoul: try different login methods
08:44<JustSoul>jm_: like what?
08:44<jm_>JustSoul: well getty/login, ssh, *dm and compare results
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08:45<fizzmahon>guys really quick question, how do i change desktop environments (gnome to xfce) without restarting X?
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08:46<padski>fizzmahon, you have g/k/xdm ?
08:47<fizzmahon>gnome right now
08:49<JustSoul>fizzmahon: what is your *dm if You have?
08:49<padski>fizzmahon, like when changing window manager ?
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08:49<JustSoul>jm_: ssh - small, console - small, kdm - big letter
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08:50<jm_>JustSoul: there you go ;)
08:50<fizzmahon>JustSoul: i do not believe i have a display manager
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08:51<JustSoul>fizzmahon: how You start X?
08:51<fizzmahon>startx from console
08:51<fizzmahon>i changed so i boot up in runlevel 3
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08:52<JustSoul>jm_: it's kdm or kde?
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08:53<jm_>JustSoul: probably kdm
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08:57<fizzmahon>so any ideas for me?
08:58<_ZeuZ_>fizzmahon: xdm start
08:58<_ZeuZ_>from console (tty)
08:58<_ZeuZ_>stop gdm and then start xdm
08:58<_ZeuZ_>then on the login screen
08:58<fizzmahon>dont have xdm
08:58<_ZeuZ_>you'll see the options to change it
08:58<giovanni>hi guys
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08:59<_ZeuZ_>then you don't have xfce installed
08:59<_ZeuZ_>not compleately
08:59<giovanni>I have a very easy question for you...
08:59<giovanni>I open a file in c with open
08:59<_ZeuZ_>you can still start it, pay attention to the login screen
08:59<fizzmahon>ok thanks
08:59<giovanni>and I get -1 as response
08:59<giovanni>how do I get a text description of the error?
08:59<jm_>giovanni: man strerror
09:00<giovanni>I knew I'd answed so soon
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09:01<giovanni>thanks jm_
09:02<jm_>no worries
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09:02<fizzmahon>hmm im trying to show all my mounts with their used/free storage. what is the command? i forget
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09:03<jm_>fizzmahon: df
09:03<fizzmahon>jm_: thank you
09:04<JustSoul>jm_: on another PC all ok, I compare /etc/ked3/kdm folders, they are similar
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09:06<jm_>JustSoul: well strace would show when USER gets set to K*, but it will be a pain with X apps, maybe strace -v -e execve,fork,clone
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09:12<fizzmahon>anyone knowledgable with the find command
09:12<fizzmahon>how would i "find" all my files older than 15 days?
09:12<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
09:12<weasel>fizzmahon: man find.
09:12<fizzmahon>i couldnt find it in the man page
09:12<weasel>you are looking for one of the time thingies. ctime, mtime, etc.
09:13<weasel>then you didn't look.
09:13<jm_>fizzmahon: info find
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09:13<jm_>it has examples for that (or info coreutils find)
09:14<fizzmahon>i did i can only find atime and mtime for modified/accessed
09:14<fizzmahon>but i cannot find for anyfiles greater than 15 days old
09:14<padski>fizzmahon, define old
09:14<jm_>use mtime
09:15<fizzmahon>created prior to 15 days ago
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09:16<Aleric>So, where was I ... I have this application that reads /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32. I want it to read another file to be specified by me. How can I do that?
09:16<JustSoul>jm_: strace kdm?
09:16<jm_>Aleric: without code changes?
09:16<jm_>JustSoul: yup
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09:16<Aleric>jm_: Yeah, environment variables.
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09:17<JustSoul>ok, tomorrow.. i'll test..
09:17<padski>fizzmahon, unix systems do not store a file creation time in the filesystem.
09:17<JustSoul>good evening
09:17<JustSoul>good bye
09:17<fizzmahon>padski: ahh ok thats where my confusion is
09:17<fizzmahon>thank you
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09:19<jm_>Aleric: hmm are you sure one can do that this way?
09:19<dpkg>Unix co-creator Ken Thompson, when asked what he would do differently if he were redesigning Unix, said, "... spell `creat' with an E."
09:19<Aleric>export GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE=/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32
09:20<jm_>ahh how simple
09:20<Aleric>Yeah, sorry :)
09:20<jm_>it would help if GDK PIXBUF documentation would be accessible on the web :P
09:21<Aleric>I found it here
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09:24<Aleric>jm_: It seems I'm still very far from getting this to work :/
09:24<Aleric>I don't get this one: (firefox-bin:7610): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Two different plugins tried to register 'BasicEngineFc'.
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09:26<Aleric>open("/opt2/firefox-test-chroot/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|0x80000) =
09:26<Aleric>That worked :)
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09:33<JohnBarleycorn>morning...does one need all 4 dvd iso images to install?
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09:33<Cyorxamp>Hi I've got this debian based distro (not ubuntu, proper debian) which unforuneatly uses grub immediately after you try to boot from the CD. and my dell optiplex 320 _doesn't_ work with grub (many posts on that)... so I figured perhaps mount the iso as a loopback and isntall grub2 - i've no idea how to do this, so does anyone know?
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09:34<Cyorxamp>apparently grub2 works
09:35<Maulkin>Cyorxamp: When you say 'debian based'... what you you mean?
09:35<Maulkin>And please pick which channel you want to ask in.
09:35<Cyorxamp>it's two different networks, thus easy to think theres two different sets of people
09:35<Aleric>jm_: Grrmbl, that didn't work. It's now opening "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/../loader-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.loaders". I made a copy of that file and adjusted it, and it's reading that, but it's STILL reading this original and using that.
09:36<Tharos>Cyorxamp, can't you use a cheat code at boot so that it doesn't automatically loads grub at startup?
09:36<Cyorxamp>It's Dreamlinux, but it _is_ debian, not like Ubuntu which is messed with fork of
09:36<Cyorxamp>Tharos: cheat code?
09:36<Aleric>jm_: I need to tell it to use some other directory than /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders
09:36<Maulkin>Cyorxamp: No, as d-i doesn't use grub.
09:36<Tharos>Cyorxamp, boot options
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09:36<Cyorxamp>Tharos: well it's already in grub when you give it the boot options
09:36<Maulkin>Not with d-i it isn't
09:37<Cyorxamp>i know real debian it doesn't use grub at the beginning
09:37<Maulkin>So try asking Dreamlinux what they're doing.
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09:37<Woet>make: *** [sysutil.o] Error 1
09:37<Woet>when i try to compile 'vsftpd'
09:37<Cyorxamp>but I have to install lilo on real debian to get it to work
09:37<Cyorxamp>which is fine
09:37<Maulkin>So do that
09:37<Woet>sysutil.c: In function âvsf_sysutil_wait_exited_normallyâ:
09:37<Woet>thats what it says before
09:37<Cyorxamp>I can't can I!
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09:37<Cyorxamp>the liveCD boots into grub - it's too late by then!
09:37<Maulkin>Cyorxamp: then ask dreamlinux.
09:38<gsimmons>JohnBarleycorn: Usually the first disc is sufficient. You may want to consider using a netinst image instead (a much smaller download) to install the initial base system, then your desired packages as required from the repositories over the Internet.
09:38<Aleric>jm_: Lol, googling for that, the top link is a bug report written by MYSELF :/
09:38<Tharos>Cyorxamp, check manuals or ask people who know about dreamlinux, but i'm quite sure there must be som way to avoid booting automatically into grub
09:39<JohnBarleycorn>gsimmons: thanks, I have the first dvd burned and ready, just didn't want to get started and fail
09:39<Woet>someone has any idea........?
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09:40<Maulkin>Cyorxamp: try
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09:40<Woet>gcc -c sysutil.c -O2 -Wall -W -Wshadow -idirafter dummyinc
09:40<Woet>sysutil.c: In function âvsf_sysutil_wait_exited_normallyâ:
09:40<Woet>sysutil.c:604: error: assignment of read-only member â__inâ
09:40<Woet>sysutil.c: In function âvsf_sysutil_wait_get_exitcodeâ:
09:40<Woet>sysutil.c:614: error: assignment of read-only member â__inâ
09:40<Woet>make: *** [sysutil.o] Error 1
09:40<Woet>when i try to 'make' vsftpd
09:40<Maulkin>Woet: why are you comiling?
09:41<Woet>because the packages are outdated
09:41<Maulkin>Woet: you say outdated, I say stable.
09:41<Maulkin>!tell Woet about backports
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09:41<Woet>packages has 2.0.5
09:41<Woet>latest on their site is 2.0.6
09:42<Woet>seems like outdated to me.
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09:42<Maulkin>Debian has 2.0.6 in unstable.
09:42<Maulkin>And should habe 2.0.6 in testing by the end of tomorrow
09:42<Maulkin>(if it gets built on mips...)
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09:44<matthewpoer>it seems that when I close the lid on my laptop, the screen blanks. after a period of time, kde screensaver also kicks in... often when i open the lid, i find that both a kde screensaver are running as well as a graphical xscreensaver. I'd like to disable one or the other. (running debian etch i686, with kde on a thinkpad t21)
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09:45<Maulkin>matthewpoer: which would you prefer?
09:46<matthewpoer>kde's, probably. everything else on this box is kde
09:46<Maulkin>"apt-get remove xscreensaver" :)
09:47<matthewpoer>oh, yeah? i thought it was a dependancy of xorg* and etc
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09:47<Maulkin>matthewpoer: nope.
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09:49<matthewpoer>ah... 'kde' meta-package depends on it via kscreensaver-xsavers, which are just hooks. thanks :)
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09:51<donfede>hello, I'm looking for a way to record a movie of my screensaver ... something that I can later import and use as an effect in Final Cut for school
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09:51<matthewpoer>donfede, i know that ffmpeg can do screencasts - perhaps you could use it and then issue the 'start my screensaver' command
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09:52<donfede>matthewpoer: thanks! that's exactly what I was looking for (a basic path and package that I could look into to find the answer) :-D
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09:53<matthewpoer>yep, man ffmpeg has all the info. ffmpeg does a bajillian things (i counted) and I am 90% sure that screencasting is one of its functions
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09:54<donfede>perfect (fyi, I'm looking to hack a bit of the xscreensaver effects, and then record them [with ffmeg now :)], then use the for "fire" effects in a short movie about music notes for school :-D)
09:55<matthewpoer>sounds good. and you'll be doing your video editing with all open source software, like a good lad, correct?
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09:56<matthewpoer>(joking, really. lives is decent with this sort of thing... but not for production yet)
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10:07<Aleric>Time for a binary replacement :/
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10:08<giovanni>hi again guys
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10:09<giovanni>what can be the problem when I try to open a file in C with the open system call and I get "Permission denied"?
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10:09<giovanni>the file I try to open has only the write permission
10:10<doc>you should add the read permission
10:10<giovanni>but that is a file that you can only write to
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10:10<munga>I've a nfs fs with acl on. why lsattr gives me back an error, while getfacl lists my acl correctly ?
10:10<Aleric>Can't you open it write-only?
10:11<giovanni>and I try to open it with O_WRONLY flag
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10:12<giovanni>it's strange, because if I do an echo "something" > /file/path everything goes well
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10:12<doc>maybe user permissions. like the write file been only writable by root
10:13<giovanni>I launch the program as root...
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10:13<giovanni>wait... but the program is launched as root
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10:14<Aleric>giovanni: Run your application in strace to see which system call returns the EPERM
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10:16<giovanni>thanks Aleric
10:17<giovanni>does anybody have an strace statically compiled? :)
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10:19<agentdoubleo>Is there a way to skip wiping the drive when doing an encrypted LVM install?
10:19<giovanni>I'm gonna compile it
10:19<Aleric>I'm not sure that can work.
10:19<JohnGH>agentdoubleo: do you want to save time? or don't you want to get rid of the data that's there?
10:20<agentdoubleo>Save time.
10:20<Aleric>agentdoubleo: If you really want encryption, it should be wiped first.
10:20<doc>i'm having a problem with an install, I have three packages that are broken like this one and have left all the dependent packages partially installed. How can I fix this?
10:20<agentdoubleo>The drive was previously encrypted, so I'm not concerned.
10:20<Aleric>If you don't, then it's clear in which blocks is data, and which blocks are unused, which gives away information.
10:20<agentdoubleo>*concerned with zero'ing it
10:20<JohnGH>Aleric: how does what's on the disk already affect the strength of the encryption?
10:21<agentdoubleo>Aleric: I know.
10:21<JohnGH>If the disk has been zeroed it's even clearer what's got data and what hasn't ;-)
10:22<JohnGH>anything that's not a zero is data
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10:22<Aleric>JohnGH: And knowing that a lot of blocks aren't used gives away the content of blocks at known locations too (in the inode table, and the block bitmap etc)
10:23<Aleric>The wipe shouldn't zero it - it should end with random data.
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10:23<agentdoubleo>Well, whatever method the install uses to wipe, is there a way to skip it?
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10:24<Aleric>That I don't know
10:24<Woet>what is the uMask for a chmod of '755' on the directory and files?
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10:24<Woet>ah, thank you
10:24<doc>is there a way to fix a bad post-install script?
10:25<Aleric>The post-install scripts are in /var somewhere...
10:25<Aleric>You can just change them, dunno where exactly :/
10:26<Aleric>You can also tell apt-get to skip it, I think.
10:26<giovanni>open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_WRONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
10:26<giovanni>that doesn't not help a lot...
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10:28<Aleric>EACCES The requested access to the file is not allowed, or search permission is denied for one of the directories in the path prefix of pathname, or the
10:28<Aleric> file did not exist yet and write access to the parent directory is not allowed. (See also path_resolution(7).)
10:28<Aleric>giovanni: Can you ls /click and /click/flooder ?
10:29<Aleric>What is ls -l "/click/flooder/add_links"
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10:30<Aleric>doc: reinstall it ?
10:30<Aleric>apt-get install --reinstall libsamplerate0 I think
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10:32<giovanni>yes Aleric
10:32<doc>Aleric: I'll give it a try
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10:39<giovanni>when I do echo, bash manages to open the file: open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0666) = 3
10:39<giovanni>I can't file O_LARGEFILE ...
10:41<Aleric>What if you use >> instead of > ?
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10:44<Maulkin>abigor: yes, but without the space.
10:44<Aleric>stop the spamming already
10:44<abigor>i'm a bit drunk
10:44<Aleric>drunk is stupid
10:44-!-mode/#debian [+o Maulkin] by ChanServ
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10:45<Maulkin>Come back when sober. Love, us
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10:45*Aleric never drinks.
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10:47<giovanni>Aleric, I get Permission denied
10:48<Aleric>giovanni: So, just add the O_CREAT|O_TRUNC and try that.
10:48<Aleric>It probably refuses to let you seek to the end.
10:48<Aleric>Actually, just O_TRUNC should do.
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10:49<giovanni>Aleric... permission denied again
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10:50<Aleric>As in... open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = -1 EACCESS ?
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10:51<giovanni>open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 026775532370) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
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10:52<Aleric>heh - that 026775532370 doesn't look correct.
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10:52<Aleric>You should pass one more parameter to open.
10:52<Aleric>and you didn't add O_TRUNC
10:52<giovanni>I tried various combinations
10:53<Aleric>That never works.
10:53<giovanni>open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 026772305050) = 7
10:53<giovanni>operation not supported
10:54<Aleric>026772305050 ?
10:55<giovanni>open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = 7
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10:55<Aleric>Ok, so it worked.
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10:55<giovanni>open("/click/flooder/add_links", O_RDONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
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10:56<Aleric>I guess you need to O_LARGE thingy then
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10:58<giovanni>no Aleric, it worked
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11:00<giovanni>with O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC
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11:09<blueice_haller1>Hello, I have an problem with etch, Kernel 2.6.18-5-686. After the update to 2.6.18.-6-686, the driver of my WLAN Card (rt73 chipset) got lost. Then I tried to recompile it with "make" and "make install", but a file could not be found in the directory "/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build/", because the directory "build" is not available. So I tried to copy the directory "build" of the existing "/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build/" and retry
11:09<blueice_haller1>Hello, I have an problem with etch, Kernel 2.6.18-5-686. After the update to 2.6.18.-6-686, the driver of my WLAN Card (rt73 chipset) got lost. Then I tried to recompile it with "make" and "make install", but a file could not be found in the directory "/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build/", because the directory "build" is not available. So I tried to copy the directory "build" of the existing "/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build/" and retry
11:09<blueice_haller1>oh sorry for double
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11:09<Aleric>I rely on my commandline history too much :/ ... keeping complex commands that I need to repeat in it. But when I get distracted for 1000 commands, they are not there anymore :(
11:10<Aleric>Oh, HISTSIZE is only 500 - huh.
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11:12<Golfgeo>Hi all
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11:13<Golfgeo>Got a question: Are the standard Debian kernels initrd or non-initrd?
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11:15<Golfgeo>Aleric, thanks mate :-) Then I need to recompile my recompiled kernel... Oh well :-)
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11:19<JohnBarleycorn>can anyone recommend a good book to learn linux in gernal, specificlly debian?
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11:20<craigevil>Debian System
11:20<JohnBarleycorn>is that an o'reilly?
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11:21<craigevil>nope, Open SOurce Press, by Martin Krafft
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11:23<Maulkin>Or if you're German, Heike's book is good.
11:24<RichiH>Maulkin: how would you know, being _scottish_? ;)
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11:26<JohnBarleycorn>what's wrong with the Scots???
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11:27<RichiH>JohnBarleycorn: look at the prime example of scots.. Maulkin
11:27<stevino>hi eveyone, I had a trouble installing lenny. Any help would be really appreciated
11:27<JohnBarleycorn>as one of Scots heritage, I see nothing wrong
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11:29<stevino>does any of you guys know who should I contact to get some installation help for Lenny? I think it is a problem that can be fixed very quickly
11:29<stevino>thank you for your time and your help in advance
11:30<Maulkin>stevino: What's your problem?
11:30<RichiH>stevino: we will need a specifc description
11:30<RichiH>what do you want to do, what did you do, what was the desired effect and what was the actual outcome?
11:30<stevino>hi Maulkin, hi RichiH, thank you for your kind support. Shall I write it here or contact you provately?
11:30<RichiH>stevino: in here is best
11:30<RichiH>other people will be able to read, comment & learn
11:30<jeromegamez>what would be the best way to avoid that my server is being scanned for a bunch of urls? in my case, somebody is trying to call "/phpMyAdmin", "/phpmyadmin", "/phpadmin", "/pma", etc. in a very short period of time.
11:31<RichiH>jeromegamez: there are tools that will blackhole those IPs
11:31<RichiH>though the best thing to do is to have a secure system
11:31<engywuck>@jerogamez: have the server on a non-standard port... :)
11:32<petemc>if you dont have vulnerable software exploitable via those urls, you can just ignore them </obvious>
11:32<stevino>I downloaded the cd1 and cd2 of the debian installer for Lenny. This weekly build (3rd of march). I have a Toshiba satellite M70-141. The installation goes smoothly up to the point that Debian installer asks me to scan other cds. After that point the installer gets stuck and asks me to insert cd1. But cd1 in _already_ in the cd reader...
11:32<Maulkin>You can also look at fail2ban
11:32<jeromegamez>RichiH: Sure, I agree with you. But nonetheless I don't want some evil minded guys on my server. So i'd like to block IPs that try to reach my server more often then 10 times in a second or something
11:33<Maulkin>stevino: ok, for that, try #debian-boot
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11:33<stevino>should I go in the debian-boot channel?
11:33<RichiH>stevino: yes
11:33<RichiH>stevino: they will need to debug this
11:34<stevino>ok, thank you very much for your time and your efforts. I really appreciate your help and your efforts guys!
11:34<RichiH>jeromegamez: in that case, poke around apt-cache search a bit
11:34<jeromegamez>RichiH: thanks!
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11:40<stevino>Dear RichiH, nobody answers in the #debian-boot channel
11:40<stevino>Do you have any idea of where I could seek help?
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11:42<Golfgeo>Hi all
11:42<blueice_haller1>Hello, I have an problem with etch, Kernel 2.6.18-5-686. After the update to 2.6.18.-6-686, the driver of my WLAN Card (rt73 chipset) got lost. Then I tried to recompile it with "make" and "make install", but a file could not be found in the directory "/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build/", because the directory "build" is not available. So I tried to copy the directory "build" of the existing "/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build/" and retry
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11:42<pmenier>you must install linux-headers corresponding to your new kernel-image
11:43<Golfgeo>Got another question: Rebuilding my kernel and am wondering if I should use "Generic x86 support" or just build without it... Any ideas or sugestions?
11:43<Aleric>Golfgeo: without
11:43<petemc>my suggestion would be to use prebuilt kernels
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11:44<Aleric>Golfgeo: Hmm, actually - I'm not sure...
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11:44<Golfgeo>Aleric :-) Oke, why your fist thought?
11:45<Aleric>I thought that generic means that you can run it on any x86 cpu, meaning it doesn't do optimization for your specific cpu and is thus slower.
11:45<blueice_haller1>@ pmenier : Do you mean me ?
11:45<Aleric>So, it's "hardware portable". But likely you just want it to be as fast as possible on your hardware.
11:45<Aleric></first thought>
11:45<neekofab>blueice_haller1 you also might want to install linux-headers-2.6-686 so that it gers upgraded when there are updates to linux-image-2.6-686
11:46<Golfgeo>Aleric That is what I thought at first too and since I'll be running this system as is I don't need "generic"... But there could have been other consequences...
11:46<Aleric>Read the help that comes with it?
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11:46<pmenier>bluice_haller1 yes but i did'nt take care you compil your own kernel right ?
11:47<Golfgeo>Aleric, did that, but not much help... But I'll just do without... gtg reboot...
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11:50<RichiH>stevino: hmm, no. you can try a different build of the lenny installer, though. or, in case your internet connection is fast, just grab the netinstall image. that will not scan any cds
11:50<RichiH>stevino: in any case, you should report a bug and/or make sure the issue is known in #debian-boot
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11:52<stevino>RichiH, where can I download a different build of the lenny installer? or, alternatively, where can I downlad lenny's netinstall image??
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11:54<RichiH>what, that is the stable one
11:55<RichiH>stevino: poke around on the server until you find something that looks promising :p
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11:58<stevino>I'm a bit confused... you gave me the address of the stable, though I'm looking for lenny, the testing version. I am a novice in Debian, as you kight have understood... any other help would be much greatly appreciated. Sorry for bothering you guys
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12:03<blueice_haller1>@ pmenier : No, it's Standard Kernel, I'm not Adavnced, at this time, perhaps in Future.
12:03<patatita>hi all
12:03<blueice_haller1>Does the Headers not automatically update with the gui Updater ?
12:03<patatita>could anybody help me with a su problem?
12:04<stevino>witte: there are no netinstall cds for the testing (lenny) there... only the cds and dvds images that I have already tried
12:04<patatita>I have a etch machine...I have also a user called peter
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12:04<patatita>when I make under peter's session su
12:05<patatita>I get a #
12:05<pmenier>blueice_haller1: they will be automatically updated if they were previously installed i think
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12:05<patatita> How can I change this to ask a password?
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12:08<petemc>patatita: can you show us the output of id before you run su
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12:09<witte>stevino: there are links for the testing distribution on that page
12:10<blueice_haller1>pmenier: Weird. I wonder, because in the gui Updater, linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 are alredy installed. Must I remove them and install then linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686 ?
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12:11<witte>blueice_haller1: you can just install 2.6.18-6 as well
12:11<witte>blueice_haller1: although uninstalling the old versions probably wont hurt :-)
12:11<blueice_haller1>And must I remove the old to avoid problems ?
12:11<witte>blueice_haller1: no problems, just extra disk-usage
12:12<stevino>witte: I am very sorry, you were right. Thank you ever so much for your kind help
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12:12<blueice_haller1>thank you. Is it normal, that grub show the previously installed kernels ?
12:13<witte>stevino: no problme
12:13<engywuck>if they are still there: yes
12:13<engywuck>look in /boot
12:13<witte>blueice_haller1: yes, grub will show all available kernels
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12:14<stevino>witte: I managed to inform the #debian-boot team; I hope my "bug" will be useful to solve other people's issues. Thank you again and best wishes from the snowing Lyngby (denmark)
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12:15<blueice_haller1>And why are there errors, if I start an old Kernel ?
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12:16<pmenier>what kind of errors ?
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12:16<pmenier>did you delete something in /lib/modules/.... ?
12:16<engywuck>look in /boot which kernels are installed
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12:17<DTE>someone is usind drbd with ha?
12:17<engywuck>then have a look in /boot/grub/menu.lst if there are any manual added kernels
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12:19<blueice_haller1>At Booting, they are so fast that I can not remember all.
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12:19<pmenier>take a look in /var/log/dmesg.*
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12:39<witte>blueice_haller1: what is the problem? the sound that is not working?
12:39<witte>blueice_haller1: or the network
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12:41<plm156>i have a dxr2 clone (auravision VxP 524) , an mpeg decoder for dvd, can i compile the on a pc with 2.6 kernel ?
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12:43<blueice_haller1>no, the rt73. I installed the headers, but I restart in a while.
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12:44<witte>blueice_haller1: ok, you need to log in onto the 2.6.18-6 kernel, and then run make and make install
12:44<witte>should work afterwards
12:45<witte>or you could use the rt2x00 open source drivers as well...
12:45<dpkg>The rt2x00 project ( provides next-generation drivers (rt2x00) for the <Ralink> rt2400, rt2500, rt2570, rt61 and rt73 chipsets. Packaged in Debian as 'rt2x00-source'. Read /usr/share/doc/rt2x00-source/README.Debian for compilation instructions.
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12:46<witte>plm156: euhm, drx2 seems dead for 4 years now
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12:46<witte>plm156: what do you want to do
12:46<plm156>witte, i want the pci card to work under windows
12:47<plm156>under debian
12:47<witte>plm156: ok, which card
12:47<blueice_haller1>I know this page and I tried to use the rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz , but they didn't work.
12:47<plm156>(auravision VxP 524) , an mpeg decoder for dvd
12:47<JohnGH>I have installed uswsusp & acpi-support
12:47<plm156>its a kit with toshiba dvd-rom to play dvds
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12:48<witte>plm156: what does "lspci" say about this card
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12:49<JohnGH> have installed uswsusp & acpi-support on my Thinkpad T43. Suspend to disk (s2disk) works fine, and when the battery gets low the machine shuts itself down aut
12:49<JohnGH>omatically (i.e. runs shutdown) - How can I change it so that the machine suspen
12:49<JohnGH>ds to disk instead of shutting down when the battery gets low?
12:49<plm156>witte, auravision VxP 524 , i am sorry not much info
12:49<blueice_haller1>I'm now away for some time.
12:50<witte>plm156: that is all that comes out of the lspci command?
12:50<plm156>witte, unfortunately yes
12:50<plm156>witte, with -vvv simply gives some more motherboard info
12:51<plm156>pin . irq and bus sped
12:51<JohnGH>sorry my paste broke into multi-line flood :-( (and it was supposed to start "I have installed...")
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12:51<witte>plm156: sorry, can't help in that case
12:52<plm156>witte, thanks anyway , it seems abandoned
12:52<witte>plm156: you could try to compile the drx2 software if you think you need it, but i give no guarantees that it will work
12:52<witte>plm156: can you contact the manufacturer for support?
12:52<witte>plm156: and is the card brand new or rather quite old?
12:53<plm156>witte, i tried but it conflicts with the 2.6 kernel source, it looks for variables that do not exist
12:53<plm156>witte, very old
12:53<witte>plm156: hit ebay and buy a cheap new one with better characteristics :-/
12:55<witte>blueice_haller1: did you install the firmware in /lib/firmware as well?
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13:10<ihuhnix>hola a todos acabo de conseguir conectarme a internet con debian y una tarjeta usb, llevo varios días buscando y al final encontré una que funciona a la 1
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13:11<ihuhnix>solo tuve que compilar un kernel nuevo, porque con el que viene en etch no va con la tarjeta.
13:12<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
13:13<ihuhnix>ok, excuse me. thank you dpkg! bye
13:13<Tharos>dpkg is such a nice guy... =)
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13:14<themill>!beer dpkg
13:14*dpkg deftly decants a fine Delirium Tremens for dpkg
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13:14<ihuhnix>;-) I don't speak english very much, but i think that understand you
13:14<blueice_haller1>ok, I'm back.
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13:15<Tharos>ihuhnix, any luck on debian-es?
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13:18<blueice_haller1>witte: how can I see, if the Firmware installed as well ? Must I move some files ?
13:19<ihuhnix>Tharos, I have not a problem. I was only announced a good notice (for me): "I can connect now to internet whith a usb wifi". It costed me a few of days.
13:19<Tharos>good for you then!
13:20<witte>blueice_haller1: yes, you have to move all the *.bin files from teh tar.gz to that directory
13:20<blueice_haller1>I will now restart the Kernel 6-686. If I have problems, I will start 5-686, like at the moment.
13:21<ihuhnix>good bye for all!
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13:24<blueice_haller1>I will be back, soon .................
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13:38<EmleyMoor>The recent update to the pymsnt package in etch doesn't work for me - it seems to time out when trying to connect to MSN
13:39<EmleyMoor>Also, the pyaimt package doesn't work for me either - I can't request anything of that one
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13:42<EmleyMoor>If I try to start pyaimt, I just get the prompt back after "Starting pyaimt:" without it actually starting
13:43<EmleyMoor>What does if test "$?" = 0; do exactly?
13:44<engywuck>tests for error :)
13:45<EmleyMoor>$? is 1, when it ought to be 0
13:45<engywuck>more exactly: return value of last program
13:45<EmleyMoor>I guess I need to find out what the actual error is
13:45<engywuck>so you need to know what the program says with "1"
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13:45<engywuck>"0" means "probably worked correct"
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13:47<engywuck>bash -c 'exit 7'
13:47<engywuck>echo $?
13:47<engywuck>gives 7
13:48<engywuck>one simple example :)
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13:52<EmleyMoor>I'm getting "No such file or directory" - but it doesn't make sense as all such files and directories exist
13:54<Tharos>EmleyMoor, maybe you are forgetting ./ ?
13:54<EmleyMoor>It's not me that packaged the thing
13:54<EmleyMoor>When I do this:
13:55<EmleyMoor>Ah... this could be considered a flooding paste
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13:55<see-g_>(just guessing)
13:56<EmleyMoor>Tharos: It is the start-stop-daemon line from an init.d script that is causing the error
13:57<Tharos>hmmm... does the program that tries to acces the files have the appropiate permissions?
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13:58<EmleyMoor>It runs as the same user and group as all the relevant files
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13:58<Tharos>then i don't know what the problem could be =/
13:59<Tharos>(not much of a linux expert)
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14:00<EmleyMoor>Permissions are the same as for another similar transport that does work
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14:04<EmleyMoor>If I could tell which file/directory it was neeping about I might have a chance
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14:07<EmleyMoor>Hmmmm... looking like a faulty conf file
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14:10<EmleyMoor>Ummm... this upgrade was not in etch - it was in lenny - other than that it's still frustrating
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14:16<EmleyMoor>Fixed pyaimt :-)
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14:18<engywuck>where to say a new debian install to use kde as x-windowmanager?
14:18<themill>!install kde
14:18<dpkg>The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, kdebase is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see
14:19<engywuck>i installed "kde" and all supporting packages
14:19<engywuck>but still get only some strange minimal window manager
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14:19<engywuck>only three icons, no menu
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14:25<EmleyMoor>The new PyMSNt in lenny does not actually connect to MSN - it times out
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14:29<Leoncio>./join #<pesquisa>
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14:30<Filipe>./join #<pesquisa>
14:31<Leoncio>o que que eu faço agora
14:31<Leoncio>QUe bruto cara
14:31<Filipe>Muito massa
14:31<Filipe>POde crer
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14:33<mauricio>./join #<pesquisa>
14:33<mauricio>Fala Galera
14:33<mauricio>to vazando
14:33<mauricio>fica de BOA AI
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14:34<mauricio>OLa Galera
14:34<mauricio>Quem É VOceÊ ZEUZ
14:34<mauricio>TO vazando cara
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14:35<_ZeuZ_>WTH, WTF was that gyt? I think he cursed upon me...
14:36<Filipe>Don't Claim man
14:36<Filipe>Wth, and WTF for you man
14:36<Filipe>why do you get upon PESQUISA
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14:37<Filipe>I'm Getting Out,
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14:37<_ZeuZ_>Another dipshit
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14:52<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... the problem I have is in bug 469136
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14:53<EmleyMoor>Reported yesterday it seems
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14:56<philipp>how can i fill a harddisk with 0?
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14:56<_shai_>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xyz
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14:57<_shai_>You may want to set bs as well.
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14:57<EmleyMoor>As it's acknowledged I'm off
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15:00<Mr_Giraffe>is there a key combination to open the gnome system monitor?
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15:01<suiside>Mr_Giraffe: you can define one yourself
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15:02<philipp>where shell i insert something?
15:02<Mr_Giraffe>suiside, how?
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15:02<_shai_>philipp: I'm sorry?
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15:06<rjent>greetings, looking for assistance getting a system to authenticate against ldap. I have installed and configured libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap and setup my nsswitch.conf. I can see the users and su in as them but I can not logon as any of them. Any ideas?
15:06<suiside>Mr_Giraffe: using gconf-editor atleast, iirc there's also a easier tool for editing (global) shortcuts in gnome though, don't use gnome on a daily basis myself
15:06<Mr_Giraffe>oh, i got that
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15:10<Moreno_TNT>copiei o passwd de um pc para outro
15:10<Moreno_TNT>desativei o shadow antes disto
15:10<Moreno_TNT>e agora não consigo alterar as senhas
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15:12<stephen>Hello everyone..
15:12<stephen>I have a sed command to strip html tags from a document
15:12<stephen>but it doesnt work with [] tags..
15:13<stephen>sed -e 's#[[^]]*]##g'
15:13<stephen>could someone please tell me what im doing wrong
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15:23<themill>stephen: [ and ] are special characters in regular expressions. You could try escaping them with a \ perhaps.
15:23<themill>stephen: my sed-fu isn't great though....
15:23<chealer>!tell Moreno_TNT about es
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15:25<uveX>is there a way to get ffmpeg-php in the debian php5-cgi pakage on debian etch?
15:26<Moreno_TNT>eu vou ter que treinar INgles
15:28<dpkg>Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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15:29<themill>!tell uveX about simple sid backport
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15:32<uveX>themill thanks but thats not fpr php5-cgi :(
15:33<seanius>uveX: can you compile it yourself against the php5-dev package?
15:34<uveX>seanius i try that 2 days long against the php5-cgi package but i don´t get it ...
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15:36<themill>uveX: why can't you recompile the ffmpeg-php package? (I've never tried, but it looks doable)
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15:36<uveX>i install the ffmpeg with apt-get
15:37<uveX>then i try a recompile from the php5-cgi with ffmpeg inside but nothing everytime i get a header error ...
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15:37<uveX>it doesn´t find the ffmpeg header ...
15:37<seanius>uveX: do you have php5-dev installed
15:37<seanius>and the ffmpeg-dev package installed
15:38<uveX>php5-dev yes but there is no ffmpeg-dev
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15:38<seanius>uveX: er, the -dev packages created by ffmpeg's package
15:39<seanius>Binary: libavutil-dev, libpostproc1d, libavformat-dev, libswscale1d, libavcodec1d, libavcodec-dev, libswscale-dev, ffmpeg, libavutil1d, libpostproc-dev, libavformat1d
15:41<uveX>seanius most of that packages are not found when i try apt-get install ....
15:42<seanius>uveX: ah, that's because i'm looking at the source package
15:42<seanius>er, sid package
15:43<seanius>try libavcodec-dev libavformat-dev libpostproc-dev
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15:43<seanius>that's all you have available in etch
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15:43<seanius>unless you take the debian-multimedia packages
15:44<uveX>try that befor now i use the etch packages ..
15:44<uveX>and libavcodec-dev libavformat-dev libpostproc-dev are all installed
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15:47<engywuck>is there some (semi-)official way to install skype
15:48<engywuck>besides dpkg-ing the .deb from
15:49<dpkg>skype is a proprietary cross-platform VoIP program is an evil obfuscated black-box that could be communicating *absolutely* any of your data with third parties. It is not in debian because we are not allowed to distribute it. Packages are available from or use the sources.list line "deb stable non-free"
15:49<themill>engywuck: nothing official, but they do provide an apt repository you can use
15:50<engywuck>ah, that's nice
15:50<engywuck>and I know skype is iiiivel
15:50<engywuck>thx alot
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15:59<blueice_haller1>Hello Again.
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16:00<blueice_haller1>I wonder, because my Webcam doesn't work at the moment. I use gqcam for testing. But now, gqcam will not start.
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16:03<jthomas>Hello! I have my work email account setup and my Gmail account setup both in KMail. Until an hour ago all emails would default from my work account (the default), like I wanted. Suddenly my emails to clients are coming from my GMail account, without any change in KMail or Kontact. I did upgrade my Debian Testing last night, however (and with it, KDE to 3.5.9). Can anyone tell me what may be wrong?
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16:10<chealer>jthomas: ask #debian-kde
16:10<jthomas>ooh ok, i didn't know about that channel, thanks
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16:22<blueice_haller1>Has anybody a solution ?
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16:39<blueice_haller1>I Repeat: I wonder, because my Webcam doesn't work at the moment. I use gqcam for testing. But now, gqcam will not start.
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16:42<ranix>hey guys, does anyone know why I suddenly get "/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: no such file or directory" spammed into exim4's paniclog?
16:43<ranix>nevermind, I fixed it
16:43<ranix>what the heck
16:43<ranix>oh well. Thanks for being there
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16:56<dave_>Hi. I'm having a problem with my system clock not being set correctly. After rebooting or resuming from hibernate it's wrong by one hour. The hardware clock should be set to UTC. Can anyone help me?
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16:59<qq_>cat /etc/timezone : is correct ?
17:00<dave_>yes, Europe/Berlin
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17:01<qq_>how old is your laptop ?
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17:03<dave_>it's a desktop actually, depends which part you mean. The mainboard about 3 years.
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17:06<qq_>this issue is arising after a installation , - e.g new kernel
17:08<Annirak><Annirak> I have a router installation running 2.6.22 and a simple iptables NAT on a PIII 733. The user of this NAT is complaining that when he bypasses the NAT, he gets 4.8Mbps, while he only gets 2.4Mbps through the NAT. For the purposes of the test, he removed both the NAT and one terminal from the LAN and connected them directly together. What can I do to reduce the bottleneck?
17:08<dave_>qq_, I experience the problem since some months already. (Running testing)
17:09<qq_>last dist-upgrade was when ?
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17:10<dave_>The system's been running testing eversince. All packages are up to date.
17:12<halbkb>Annirak: i wonder how he got the "4.8" figure when only two hosts existed in the test, the NAT box and the "terminal" computer
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17:13<Annirak>halbkb: the 4.8 figure is generated by running several tests through to dslreports
17:13<qq_>sure, but I suppose a bug in package , so a fresh dist-upgrade may help
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17:14<dave_>qq_, what do you mean by dist-upgrade. Using aptitude? I've been using dselect all the time.
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17:17<Woet`>is there any way to forbid applications using a specific port
17:17<Woet`>but making exceptions for certain processes?
17:18<Woet`>and just my first question?
17:18<Annirak>Woet`: yes
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17:18<Woet>im getting 2 different answer now.
17:18<qq_>I propose to do right now a apt-get update, and than apt-get dist-upgrade , so you see if the issue is still present
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17:18<halbkb>Annirak: i don't get it. anyway, you can try other combinations of kernel (*bsd) and ethernet cards
17:19<Woet>Annirak: how could i do such thing?
17:19<Annirak>iptables -A INPUT -j DENY -p tcp --destination-port 80
17:19<Annirak>that would deny all traffic to port 80
17:19<weasel>that is not what was asked.
17:20<Woet>and its unable to add exceptions to that?
17:20<Annirak>Woet: iptables doesn't do process based exceptions
17:20<Woet>maybe other software?
17:20<Annirak>or filters
17:20<ohcibi|lappi>hi folks... my WLAN-AP is blacklisted by wpa_supplicant... why can this happen?... how can i deblacklist it?
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17:21<Annirak>weasel that was precisely what was asked. See <Woet`> and just my first question?
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17:22<Annirak>Woet: Generally speaking it's not necessary to permit a specific application on a given port since once the app is listening, no other apps can listen on the same port
17:23<weasel>no, it wasn't.
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17:24<Annirak>weasel: I read this "is there any way to forbid applications using a specific port" as "how do I block traffic to a given port" It seems that was the original intent.
17:24<weasel>let's just agree that the question is either stupid or badly formed.
17:24<Annirak>I agree that I answered the question that the OP intended to ask, regardless of how accurately he asked it.
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17:27<qq_>dave_: and as second solution may change the cell-battery from the mainboard
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17:28<Annirak>halbkb: Sadly, I generally have just remote admin on the box. Distro switches are not generally a good plan, especially as they don't inspire confidence in the users.
17:29<dave_>qq_: the clock's always wrong by one hour. That's surely a configuration issue.
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17:30<qq_>what clock is set in BIOS ?
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17:32<dave_>qq_: UTC, that's at least what is configured in /etc/default/rcS. But I think, that's exactly the problem, that different settings are assumed when restoring the clock than when saving it.
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17:37<qq_>dave: what clock is set in BIOS ?
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17:37<dave_>qq_: UTC
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17:39<qq_>dave__: yes UTC in /etc/default/rcS , but in BIOS ?
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17:42<dave_>qq_: how can i tell?
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17:44<qq_>reboot and tast F2 or Del to enter in BIOS , and loock at date setting
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17:45<junky> hi
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17:46<junky>I bought a vps with debian etc I want to connect a domain from namecheap com to this vps in which file can I write the domain ip/Name?
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17:47<junky>does nobody has an idea?
17:47<junky>or is there any tutorial how I connect an extern domain to this server?
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17:48<junky>nobody knows it?
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17:49<junky>kann jemand hier deutsch
17:49<junky>can anyone talk german
17:50<junky>help german
17:50<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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17:57<noid>i have a weird problem, I don't know where to start... I have a 8800GT, it works fine with vesa driver but not with nv driver (it fails to load X and I get a "no screens found" in the logs) nor with the nvidia driver (the screen goes blank and I can't even switch back to a console, the logs show no errors). Where should I begin?
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18:03<qq_>noid: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
18:05<noid>qq_: as I said, currently I'm using the vesa one, the other two don't work
18:06<qq_>ah, sorry !
18:06<noid>qq_: and I get "mouse" "kbd" and "vesa" when I grep that, fwiw
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18:08<qq_>noid : cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Horiz
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18:09<qq_>noid : cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Refr
18:09<nicolas>buenas! alguien habla español ??
18:09<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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18:10<amphi>de nada
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18:14<noid>qq_: HorizSync 30-81, VertRefresh 56-75
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18:14<Darkowl>alguem ai fala Portugues?
18:14<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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18:16<qq_>here HorizSync 28-75 ,VertRefresh 43-75 , may help with nv ?
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18:18<noid>qq_: I don't think that's the problem, my values are within my monitor specs, besides the error I get with the nv driver is a "no screen found"
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18:19<gsimmons>noid: What version of 'xserver-xorg-video-nv' do you have installed?
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18:20<noid>gsimmons: the etch one I think, 1.2.0-3
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18:20<nichos>hi all, im having trouble with xorg. I updated my system yesterday, installed the nvidia drivers, all was well. I've now rebooted the machine and isn't starting. the nvidia module is loaded.
18:21<nichos>my log is here:
18:21<gsimmons>noid: That version of the nv driver doesn't contain support for the G92 (8800GT) chipset.
18:21<nichos>usually I can tell why it didn't start but I don't see anything too helpful in this log
18:21<noid>gsimmons: hummm my nvidia driver is 1.0.8776
18:22<noid>gsimmons: so I should upgrade to the testing version i assume
18:22<qq_>naid: in section "Monitor" do you hane a line with "BusPCI":0xx:xxx" or so ?
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18:29<twb>I'm trying to understand just what kind of environment scrips in /etc/network/if-up.d can expect when they are invoked by ifup(8) via run-parts.
18:30<twb>Can anyone tell me without my having to trace through this nuweb source?
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18:36<hathe|>anybody knows the dcop function to put a window into foreground/background?
18:37<twb>No, but I know it'll be trivial with devilspie...
18:37<gsimmons>noid: FYI, G92 support wasn't included within the nvidia driver until version 169.07.
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18:47<noid>gsimmons: thanks, i'm investigating a bit... I got the nv driver to work, at least... the nvidia driver doesn't recognize my card
18:48<noid>gsimmons: i guess I'll have to dwell into sid land
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18:49<noid>gsimmons: thanks for the pointers and goodnight!
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19:24<themill>abrotman: thanks. We'll see how long it stays that way...
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19:24<azeem>we can drop the JOINS,PARTS,QUITS anyway I guess
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19:26<abrotman>i don't even know what the "weird keyboard-layout" bit is
19:26<themill>isn't it a sid bug? I've never actually seen anyone ask about it.
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19:27<themill>(And I don't believe that's because it's in /topic.... we all know that no-one reads them)
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19:27<azeem>themill: don't /msg me!!
19:27<leonidas>Hi, is there any dictionary I could use with Evolution?
19:27*themill blinks
19:27<twb>That would be myspell, wouldn't it?
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19:28<abrotman>aspell ?
19:29<abrotman>eh .. gnome-spell is a Suggests
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19:53<lunks>abrotman, themill didn't worked =\
19:53<abrotman>server switch!
19:53<lunks>I should only restart X, right? I did both suggestions and none of them worked.
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19:54<lunks>plugged and unplugged my mouse, so I could be sure about it, and nothing.
19:54<lunks>But it shows up on dmesg =P
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19:57<IronSid3>algum brasileiro on-line aew pra me ajudar?
19:57<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
19:58<lunks>IronSid3, vai lá, meu caro =)
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19:58<IronSid3>[lunks]: se adianta-se
19:58<IronSid3>lunks nao tão muitos animados
19:58<abrotman>lunks: i meant for you to try your touchpad with /dev/input/mice
19:58<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
19:58<azeem>IronSid3, lunks: please write in english
19:58<lunks>abrotman, I did
19:58<abrotman>lunks: did it work ?
19:58<lunks>Sorry, I'm just asking him to go there =)
19:59<lunks>abrotman, Nop
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19:59<abrotman>lunks: my understanding of /dev/input/mice is that it is the conglomeration of all other mouse devices
19:59<lunks>abrotman, is there a problem if there are 2 devices pointing to it?
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19:59<themill>it should work, but you'd lose touchpad features such as scroll wheel etc
20:00<abrotman>lunks: i think that's the idea
20:00<IronSid3>lunks podes me ajudar ja que fala portugues?... and sorry users inglish.. i go to chanel pt!
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20:02<lunks>IronSid3, vai lá, cara. neguim não gosta de misturar aqui =)
20:03<lunks>abrotman, no, i mean... now i have 'configured mouse' and 'touchpad' pointing to /dev/input/mice on my xorg.conf
20:03<abrotman>that's fine
20:03<abrotman>or supposed to be AIUI
20:03<abrotman>lunks: didn't themill show you his config?
20:03<dpkg>from memory, aiui is As I Understand It
20:03<lunks>abrotman, yeah, i did both of them
20:04<lunks>I changed synaptics device and added his xorg.conf relevant section
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20:04<abrotman>is the mouse you're plugging USB or ps2?
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20:05<lunks>That is, themill's xorg.conf relevant section: server layout, one inputdevice added and 'configured mouse' also pointing to /dev/input/mice
20:06<themill>yes, but with the touchpad pointing to psaux
20:06<lunks>themill, that's what I am asking, is it a problem? touchpad is still working.
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20:07<themill>lunks: did you also get the "CorePointer" and "SendCoreEvents" bits?
20:07<lunks>themill, yep
20:07<lunks>I'll upload my xorg.conf
20:07<themill>lunks: aiui, the touchpad works better as psaux rather than /dev/input/mice
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20:10<lunks>abrotman, themill:
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20:12<themill>lunks: I don't have "CorePointer" and "CoreKeyboard" in the ServerLayout section. No idea what difference that makes.
20:12<lunks>themill, I wouldn't count this is my problem, either. :P
20:13<themill>night all
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20:26<fernando>have a question here..
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20:27<fernando>about fglrx
20:27<fernando>and lenny
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20:31<GhostlyDeath>Can I strap my boots so I don't need to turn my other PC because I'm really lazy?
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20:50*GhostlyDeath shrinks Windows parition
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20:53<rrm>hi guys... i got to a quick question... how can see external usb hdd that are ntfs... so far 4.0r3 does not show it
20:53<GhostlyDeath>you need libntfs
20:53<GhostlyDeath>and maybe ntfs-3g if you want to mount and read/write
20:53<dpkg>add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want.
20:53<rrm>just load it from the pkg manager
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20:54<GhostlyDeath>NT Junctions and Vista Symlinks aren't supported though :(
20:54<chealer>GhostlyDeath: what do you mean by turn your PC?
20:54<rrm>dpkg... i wish i could do that.. but i am a newb at least from the cmd line perspective
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20:54<GhostlyDeath>chealer: turn my PC?
20:54<RIVE>Hello, good evening.
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20:55<GhostlyDeath>chealer: I want to install Debian on this hard drive and slap it in my laptop
20:56<chealer>GhostlyDeath: you can do that
20:57<rrm>also... did i do ok downloading 4.0r3 over the testing distro? i tried ubuntu and all that i think they are too bloaded for my needs
20:57<twb>rrm: Debian supports far more software than Ubuntu.
20:58<twb>rrm: you can always install stable (currently 4.0) and upgrade to testing later in-place; this is how I set up all my testing hosts.
20:58<chealer>rrm: if you don't need anything from testing, yes
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21:01<twb>rrm: do not send me private messages.
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21:05<rrm>hey chealer i got it..
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21:07<qq_>twb : prints `i'
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21:07<twb>qq_: ok, so maybe the locale you're trying to use isn't compiled.
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21:07<twb>qq_: run `locale' and look for the values (the right-hand-sides) in /etc/locale.gen
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21:08<twb>e.g. I have LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, and `grep en_AU.UTF-8 /etc/locale.gen' returns an uncommented line.
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21:10<thede>can anyone help with wireless question?
21:11<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
21:12<rrm>on my mac ppc ibook 500mhz... i loaded debian 40r3... the screen does not show right... how can i reset it
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21:14<RIVE>rrm, check the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the VertRefresh and HorizSync most probably you need to put the numbers manualy.
21:14<twb>rrm: what screen?
21:14<twb>rrm: describe the last meaningful screen you see.
21:14<rrm>1024/768 12.1
21:14<thede>can't get bcm43xx to work...tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter...dmesg still reports that legacy firmware is being used on boot, iwconfig reports eth2 has no wireless extensions, and trying to bring it up with ifconfig reports SIOCSIFFLAGS:operation not supported...any ideas?
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21:15<rrm>the right side about 70 percent is black and the top 10 percent is like a mirror to the bottom part
21:15<twb>thede: did you modprobe the <whatever>?
21:15<rrm>installed xubuntu and was ok
21:15<twb>rrm: describe the last meaningful screen you see.
21:15<RIVE>rrm, check the xorg.conf file i used to have the same problem in a iBook G3.
21:16<rrm>ok... let me boot it up
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21:17<RIVE>rrm, check there is the modificatiosn tahta i made to the xorg.conf to work.
21:17<thede>i modified /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper to read 'alias eth2 ndiswrapper' but did not run the modprobe command..should i?
21:19<rrm>rive: i can not get anywhere... does not work... boots with the problem
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21:21<RIVE>rmm, change to a terminal, Ctrl+ALt+F2
21:21<RIVE>rmm, login as root
21:21<RIVE>Go to X11 directory, cd /etc/X11
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21:22<RIVE>Edit xorg.conf "nano xorg.conf"
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21:23<RIVE>Find the "Section Monitor" and type the numbers, save the file and restart de graphic server.
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21:26<rrm>got it
21:27<RIVE>Does it works?
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21:27<rrm>i got in
21:28<rrm>and X11
21:28<rrm>what i need to edit
21:28<rrm>that site is not too helpfull since it is in spanish
21:30<RIVE>You need to edit the file xorg.conf , in the site are the way you have to modify the xorg.conf check the black box that starts with... Section "Monitor"
21:31<rrm>how do i edit it
21:31<twb>With flair
21:31<twb>and gusto
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21:31<RIVE>rrm, type... nano xorg.conf
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21:32<seba>i have a problem with dfsbuild, it says that cannot verify release
21:32<Mr_Giraffe>does anybody else have a problem with iceweasel crashing almost all the time?
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21:32<Mr_Giraffe>i swear i use killall firefox-bin more times than i can count in a day
21:32<RIVE>rrm, allow me a minutes, have to make my son dinner, be right back.
21:32<twb>Nope, because I don't run it!
21:33<javo>my iceweasel is ok (i i'm over kde / lenny)
21:33<twb>max respect to w3m.
21:33<craigevil>havent had iceweasel crash in kde/sid in forever
21:33<seba>Mr_Giraffe try uninstalling the flash plugin
21:33<rrm>thanks rive... al the specs seem ok
21:33<Mr_Giraffe>seba, then i don't have flash.
21:34<qq_>twb: thanks
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21:37<chealer>!tell Mr_Giraffe about bt
21:37<chealer>!tell Mr_Giraffe about bts
21:37<abrotman>Mr_Giraffe: you could use another gecko based browser for normal browsing and FF for flash stuff
21:37<abrotman>chealer: he's going to file a bug with Adobe?
21:37<Mr_Giraffe>yeah, i don't really see how filing a bug report is a good starter idea
21:37<chealer>abrotman: not file a bug, but look at the bug reports list
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21:38<RIVE>Does it works rrm?
21:39<rrm>rebooting now
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21:39<rrm>it does
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21:39<rrm>this is great
21:39<RIVE>Ok, you're welcome, is good that i can help you.
21:40<RIVE>Save the parameters of VertRefresh and HorizSync in a file for future use.
21:41<rrm>i did... this is great.. run super and fast
21:43<RIVE>Yes. old ppc apple hardware runs fine with Linux, the only drawback for my needs were flash in the browsers, but for work I can live wihtoutit.
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21:46<seba>i have a problem with dfsbuild, it says that cannot verify release
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21:56<twb>And PPC is aesthetically a much nicer architecture than the frankenstein Intel ancestry
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22:06<seba>i have a problem with dfsbuild, it says that cannot verify release
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22:12<GhostlyDeath>heheh, download an ISO on my palm pilot
22:13<GhostlyDeath>141MB left
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22:23<istoc>Hi. If I'm running bittorrent through a ssh tunnel, which ip should I report to the tracker, my machine or the one accepting the tunnel?
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22:30<seba>i have a problem with dfsbuild, it says that cannot verify release, anyone knows what this means?
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22:38<__fang>hello there! i don't wanna upgrade my fglrx drivers that i manually instaled, but aptitude and apt-get upgrade tells me to update it. is there a way to take those packages off the upgrade list?
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22:38<dpkg>hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections', or 'aptitude hold package', or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" for dependency reasons.]
22:39<__fang>abrotman: thanks =D
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22:39<abrotman>__fang: don't thank me til it works ..
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22:40<sortadi>is there any debian GUI tool for configuring the init levels?
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22:42<craigevil>rcconf, sysv-rc-conf
22:42<thede>i'm having problem with bcm43xx wireless...i tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter...dmesg still shows b43legacy is being used on bootup, and eth2 shows no wireless extensions...trying to bring it up gives SIOCSIFFLAGS: operation not supported error...any ideas?
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22:47<dondelelcaro>thede: check dmesg.
22:48<thede> dmesg reports b43legacy-phy error:firmware file "b43legacy/ucode4.fw" not found or load failed
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22:54<javo>i have this problem: when i shut down my computer, i receive the error: killing all processes remaining... failed. Im using lenny. What can be hapening here?
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22:57<javo>if i execute in console: cat /var/log/daemon.log | grep "WARN" so i see this warning: Mar 4 20:49:15 valencia NetworkManager: <WARN> nm_signal_handler(): Caught signal 15, shutting down normally.
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23:05<javo>i found in the internet that there are more people with the same problem
23:05<javo>but not found the solution yet
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23:30<victor>What application other than gnumeric can open a gnumeric spreadsheet file?
23:31<dondelelcaro>victor: it's just a gzip'ed xml file
23:31<victor>dondelelcaro, but why can't oocalc open it?
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23:31<dondelelcaro>because it doesn't have support for it?
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23:33<victor>so do we have another application to open gnumeric files?
23:34<victor>I'm now on xfce and don't want to bring gnome libs up again, not that it's bad, but I only have a 256 ram.
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23:46<dondelelcaro>victor: not to the best of my knowledge, no.
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23:49<victor>dondelelcaro, I have gunzipped it, and when it was opened with opera, it still displayed as a xml code instead of a table, why?
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23:51<victor>dondelelcaro, is there a way to modify this xml file so that other spreadsheet applications can open it properly?
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