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00:40<alaya>is there a pre-packaged pam module for "already logged in" or something equivalent?
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00:40<rrm>hi... is there a debian version only with xfce.
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00:41<alaya>rrm: install minimal debian then install xfce
00:41<alaya>rrm: use the minimal net install cd
00:41<alaya>only select to install base when it asks
00:42<rrm>hmm how i do that
00:42<rrm>in the option when installing, not the standard/expert?
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00:42<alaya>it will ask at the end
00:43<rrm>huh?
00:44<alaya>standard or expert
00:44<rrm>ok
00:44<rrm>cool
00:44<alaya>just select base because you want that stuff. then apt-get install xfce after first reboot
00:44<RIVE>rrm, you wiil see a "window" thats asks you what packages install, options will be, Desktop, web server, laptop, etc.
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00:45<rrm>oh... i got it
00:45<alaya>actually i think the options is called "standard system"
00:45<RIVE>For a minimal Debian you have to choose non of the options.
00:45<alaya>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=13828&sid=23aa6bfc8075c3762c6f2e85313a7ed1
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00:46<alaya>RIVE: no you should choose "standard system" for sure
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00:46<RIVE>Ok, youre right alaya.
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00:46<rrm>i want a minimal system that runs, with a few apps and xfce...
00:47<RIVE>rrm, when yours computer reboots, you will see a console login.
00:47<rrm>btw... i seem stupid about things is cause i am new to linux
00:47<RIVE>Enter as root.
00:47<RIVE>The you can install xserver and xfce.
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00:48<RIVE>rrm, we all where linux newbies, i'm one :-), at least Debian newbie.
00:48<RIVE>*were
00:49<rrm>honestly this craze started when i developed my hate for vista
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00:49<rrm>and my next upgrade is linux
00:49<rrm>i just do not kow the distro yet
00:49<RIVE>rrm, you want to install xfce to the iBook?
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00:49<rrm>i got that running rive with xubuntu
00:49<rrm>but still lost of bloat in the distro
00:50<RIVE>Tunning a system in my experience is a matter of try and error.
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00:53<rrm>what is the latest ver for ppc from xubu... 7.04?
00:54<alaya>rrm: you will love debian compared to m$ stuff. but be patient also as it takes time
00:54<RIVE>rrm, that question won't get a answer in this channel.
00:54<alaya>rrm: ubuntu and debian are different
00:54<rrm>i notice...
00:54<rrm>i did like debian
00:54<rrm>but on my ppc does not work right
00:55<rrm>nothing really worked
00:55<rrm>just errors
00:55<rrm>i did a net install
00:55<alaya>it should work on it. there is the ppc port
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00:55<alaya>i don't know if they have a separate channel. there are also the mailing lists
00:56<alaya>and the wiki, etc.
00:56<rrm>i am fighting between freebsd and debian
00:56<alaya>install debian then install freebsd in a kvm VM :-)
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00:57<RIVE>rrm, Debian works well in iBooks, only needs more search and console work than Ubuntus.
00:58<alaya>i wonder why "already logged in" is not included in libpam-modules
00:58<rrm>i got the 4.0r3 for my ppc
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00:58<rrm>is that good, or i should get the other
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00:59<RIVE>Thstś good rrm, even you can change to lenny in the iBook.
01:00<alaya>http://ilya-evseev.narod.ru/posix/pam_alreadyloggedin/
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01:01<chump_>hye guys how would i just install Grub from a net install disc
01:01<chump_>i only want to install grub
01:02<alaya>chump_: you mean reinstall it using existing grub config on hard disk?
01:03<chump_>yeah my current grub install failed
01:03<chump_>err became currupt
01:04<alaya>chump_: mount the root fs somewhere, then run grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt/rootdir /dev/hda
01:04<alaya>obviously change the path and device name accordingly
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01:05<chump_>can i mount in the netinstall
01:05<alaya>device names via the installer cd may be strange
01:05<alaya>yes
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01:06<alaya>it might be something like /dev/disk/.....
01:07<chump_>hmmm
01:07<alaya> /dev/disks/disk0/disk or something.
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01:08<chump_>hmm it says i can mount /dev/sda*
01:08<chump_>which one should i mount?
01:08<alaya>if that works fine
01:09<chump_>which one should i mount?
01:10<alaya>where is boot and / ?
01:10<chump_>the mount was destroyed
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01:11<chump_>anyway i can install it on its own partition?
01:11<alaya>if the fs is corrupt then you should reinstall. how do you expect the OS to run ?
01:11<chump_>well there are more os's that i want to run
01:11<chump_>i need it for work for tomorrow
01:12<alaya>then install a bootloader from a different, working OS
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01:15<alaya>this is not a debian question then
01:16<lex>chump_, load rescue mode
01:17<lex>yhen choose your root partition and then choose reinstall Grub
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01:19*Aleric finished http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/iceweasel32.html !!!
01:20<Aleric>Damn that howto has costed me... a deleted home directory... a day without video drivers....
01:20<Aleric>But now it all works :)
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01:23<alaya>wow good work
01:23<alaya>sorry for all the pain
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01:27<Aleric>Thanks :)
01:29<Aleric>My next HOWTO is going to be a hit though, and will be as a direct result of this ;)
01:29<Aleric>HOWTO undelete ext3 file and directories
01:29<Aleric> :)
01:29<Aleric>If you Google for that, all you can find is that it isn't possible.
01:30<alaya>wow put me on your mailing list
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01:31<devil>Aleric: testdisk is a nice tool for any undelete
01:31<Aleric>Don't have a mailinglist.. I just put them on my home page.
01:32<Aleric>devil: I doubt very much is can undelete removed ext3 files.
01:32<Aleric>Try it out before saying it can.
01:32<devil>Aleric: sure does
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01:34<devil>Aleric: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
01:35<RIVE>Good night to all, take care.
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01:36<Aleric>devil: lol, that doesn't recover ANY files thus.
01:36<Aleric>It recovers partition tables and bootsectors.
01:36<devil>Aleric: look at the incorporated photorec
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01:38<Aleric>devil: *shrug* ... there are a million commercial tools out there that mention ext2/ext3 in one breathe, please pay $50. I don't believe it unless you actually tried it yourself.
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01:39<devil>Aleric: sure did, and we use it in our channel quite often, and people have success with it
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01:40<Aleric>devil: I basically did rm -rf /home/carlo
01:40<Aleric>2 GB of arbitrary data lost.
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01:41<Aleric>I don't read there that testdisk can recover that.
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01:44<devil>Aleric: testdisk has photorec included, and that does the job
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01:45<hoopy>if i'm wanting to be able to do the ole ./configure; make; make install what packages to i get to apt-get
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01:46<Slydder>morning all.
01:47<alaya>hoopy: depends what libs the app needs to build
01:47<devil>hoopy: you should consider using checkinstall instead of make install, that creates a deb file at least
01:48<alaya>hoopy: if there is a debian build of it you can apt-get build-dep <package>
01:48<hoopy>yeah
01:48<hoopy>i'm looking to install the Io language
01:48<hoopy>i don't think there is a package available for it
01:48<hoopy>and the name of the language isn't condusive to googling
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01:48<alaya>or very similar package should be the same
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01:49<alaya>otherwise read docs, run ./configure and look at error output, figure out what libs it needs...
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01:53<jm_>!b-e hoopy
01:53<dpkg>hoopy: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.
01:53<jm_>to start with
01:54<hoopy>!b-e ?
01:54<dpkg>If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. See also <qotd49>.
01:54<chealer>!b-e ?
01:54<dpkg>If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. See also <qotd49>.
01:56<hoopy>oh..i get it... !b-e hoopy has dpkg tell me to get build-essentials
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02:19<vook>Does anyone know what package or option enables text to be dragged from one app to the other (showing the text as it is dragged). I have a standard lenny install on a different PC that does this correctly, but another PC (in lenny) that fails to do this.
02:20<vook>both are using gnome/metacity and compiz. (still doesn't work if compiz is turned off).
02:20<vook>I'm just trying to drag text from openoffice to iceweasel.
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02:22<vook>pfft! nevermind. I just remembered that in the past I was dragging text from gedit, not openoffice.
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02:27<alaya>Aleric: ? you there?
02:28<alaya>vook: xselect
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02:28<alaya>vook: but some apps also have their own clipboard mechanism, like kde stuff
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02:48<vook>alaya: I haven't used kde in a few years - maybe time to give it a look. Do you know what virtual package provides a base kde4 installation?
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02:55<alaya>vook: look at the links in the topic in #debian-kde channel
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02:55<alaya>vook: i think kdebase plus maybe something else
02:56<vook>kde4 I spose. hmm. I think i'll stick with gnome. As sluggish as gtk is at times, I seem settled.
02:56<alaya>kde4 is kind of unfinished
02:57<jm_>!install kde
02:57<dpkg>The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, kdebase is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall
02:57<devil>kde4.0.2.1 is in incoming, at least for 64bit, might be worth a look
02:58<alaya>wait till 4.1
02:58<devil>for productive systems, yes
02:58<devil>i have a kde4 test install
02:59<vook>Does it still have that "Where do you want to go today?" look?
02:59<devil>vook: last i seen was 2 weeks ago, and yes, i didnt like what i saw too much
03:01<Baggy2>I need to do this: "Enable agpgart support for the Intel 810/815 on-board graphics. This is required. The option is under "Character Devices"." but when I run menuconfig and browse character devices I cannot find a suitable option :/ what should I select? (using kernel 2.6.22)
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03:01<oem>hi all
03:02<jm_>Baggy2: /dev/agpgart (AGP Support)
03:03<vook>Baggy2: um - you shouldn't need to compile a new kernel to get your 810/815 working properly (unless you just want to).
03:04<Baggy2>jm_: yes, but under that dotted line I've got 4 options, ALI, ATI, AMD and AMD.. I want to select intel chipset..
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03:05<Baggy2>vook: building this kernel for an embedded device
03:05<jm_>Baggy2: no, you have more than that, enable EXPERIMENTAL
03:05<vook>ah, ok
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03:09<Baggy2>jm_: exactly where do I enable EXPERIMENTAL? I usually see such options with (EXPERIMENTAL) listed behind them..
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03:10<jm_>Baggy2: use search facility
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03:11<Baggy2>jm_: I have enabled Code maturity level options->Promt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers, if that was what you meant?
03:13<jm_>Baggy2: yes that's the one
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03:13<Baggy2>jm_: I had that one enabled..
03:13<Baggy2>still, I can only see the 4 options I mentioned
03:13<jm_>Baggy2: search for CONFIG_AGP_INTEL, it shall tell you what it needs enabled
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03:14<jm_>maybe you are missing PCI support
03:14<jm_>or FB
03:14<Baggy2>jm_: I get no hits when searching for CONFIG_AGP_INTEL
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03:15<jm_>Baggy2: grep AGP arch/i386/defconfig
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03:15<bougi>hello. I have installed the mysql package and I noticed this. I have only one server on the default port 3306. If I do mysql --port=3350 then the client still does connect with the server. Is there a way to override the defaults?
03:16<bougi>just curious
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03:17<Baggy2>jm_: it returned CONFIG_AGP=y and CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y does that mean that it is already enabled?
03:18<jm_>Baggy2: yes, but why wouldn't config interface show it to you then?
03:18<jm_>Baggy2: wait no it means it's enabled by default
03:18<jm_>Baggy2: your current config file is in .config
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03:20<Baggy2>jm_: hmm... it is turned on in .config too, but I'm unable to find the options when I run menuconfig.. no hits for CONFIG_AGP either..
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03:22<Baggy2>jm_: weird, but thanks, I guess it is already included then :)
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03:26<webPragmatist>how can I create a simple bash script to send a command every 10 seconds?
03:28<webPragmatist>or even better to send the same command every 10 seconds after the previous command
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03:42<morgan`>hello
03:42<jm_>Baggy2: that doesn't sound right, perhaps disable embedded option?
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03:48<timn>pardon me for inquiring, my attempted at rtfm have brought nothing.. when i try to boot from the debian-update-4.03r3-i386-CD.iso it just comes up with a network boot and seems to ignore the cd as a bootable medium. this happens with the .iso mounted or an actual cd.
03:48<Maulkin>Hi there timn. As I understand it, the update cd isn't a bootable medium
03:49<timn>oh. hahah that makes sense
03:49<timn>thank you Maulkin, i'll try the normal one first. it's so obvious i blush for not catching that
03:49<timn>cheers!
03:49<Maulkin>timn: You should boot up into your normal system and then use apt-cdrom add
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03:50<Maulkin>This should add the CD to your list, and allow you to update normally.
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03:50<timn>okay, great - i appreciate the help
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03:50<Maulkin>timn: no problems, thanks :)
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03:55<timn>thank you again Maulkin, your patience is very appreciated! be well, and see you from the kernel side sometime :)
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04:05*Nightroad [XMMS] Player Mp3 Nightwish - Walking In The Air
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04:07<Nightroad>!away SLACK
04:07<dpkg>SLACK: No one cares if you are away. NO ONE! Read http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
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04:07<Nightroad>!debian-es
04:07<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
04:08<Nightroad>!debian-no
04:08<dpkg>rumour has it, debian-no is den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users...
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04:09<Nightroad>!debian
04:09<dpkg>i guess debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
04:09<Nightroad>!debian-doc
04:09<Nightroad>!debian-relase
04:09<Nightroad>!debian-relases
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04:10<asc>Out of curiosity, is the Etch amd64 version a little iffy or is it just me?
04:11<Nightroad>yes
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04:11<asc>thank you for that prompt and accurate answer
04:11<Nightroad>:)
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04:12<pao>hi there ... anybody have an alternative to paste the X clipboard (shift+ins on PC) on a mac keyboard?
04:12<alaya>xselect & xpaste ?
04:13<pao>alaya: yes
04:13<Nightroad>heheheh nice help *_*
04:13<alaya>middle click ?
04:13<pao>without the mouse
04:14<Nightroad>connect ?
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04:14<pao>I would prefere to keep my fingers on the keyboard shift+ins is very useful
04:14<alaya>maybe clipper or other clipboard tool has hotkey?
04:15<alaya>heh, get a thinkpad with a trackpoint
04:15<pao>:) I have a desktop mac
04:15<pao>:)
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04:16<Nightroad>SLACK, need help ?
04:16<Nightroad>now ?
04:16<Nightroad>>,<
04:16<christoph>Hi, where is the logfile of iceweasle? My browser crashs from time to time.
04:17<Nightroad>SLACK, my brother gay :)
04:18<Nightroad>I am having trouble with my desktop XFCE, when booting
04:18<SLACK>christoph whta happened if you run iceweasel be root ?
04:19<SLACK>you have trouble ?
04:19<SLACK>maybe your user have problems o maybe te installation is corrupt
04:19<Nightroad>Besides managing the desktop and GNOME is not XFCE, and I have to go to setup menu to switch to XFCE
04:19<SLACK>try to run in a shell
04:19<christoph>k thx
04:20<SLACK>and paste the log to see
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04:20<SLACK>y si no te resulta matate
04:21<Nightroad>SLACK, es KILL
04:21<Nightroad>xd
04:21<SLACK>si
04:21<SLACK>pero en español
04:21<SLACK>pa k no cache
04:21<SLACK>xD
04:21<pao>christoph: try to have a look to .xsession-errors
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04:22<Nightroad>otherwise it could kill him immediately.
04:22<Nightroad>hehehe :P~
04:22<christoph>.xsession-errors' last entry is pidgin.. i hope iceweasle crashs soons .. i've started it in a terminal
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04:22<Nightroad>ahh
04:22<Nightroad>pidgin
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04:23<Nightroad>chaataka, install emesene relase of pidgin
04:23<Nightroad>go emesene.org ;)
04:23<Nightroad>¬¬
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04:23<SLACK>maybe you have trouble whit the flash addons
04:23<SLACK>it's a options
04:23<Nightroad>SLACK, me fuí en volá
04:24<Nightroad>leí mal xD!
04:24<SLACK>se
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04:24<SLACK>leiste mal
04:24<Nightroad>nadie me ayuda
04:24<chealer>Nightroad, SLACK: english only on #debian
04:25<alaya>telling someone to run a browser as root is wrong
04:25<Nightroad>I am having trouble with my desktop XFCE, when booting, Besides managing the desktop and GNOME is not XFCE, and I have to go to setup menu to switch to XFCE ????
04:25<SLACK>chealer ok ... sorry
04:25<Nightroad>chealer, ok, don't worry ;)
04:25<webPragmatist>http://pastebin.com/m64d489c2
04:25<Nightroad>help me ?
04:25<webPragmatist>why doesn't that work at all :(
04:25<webPragmatist>it says unexpected end of file
04:26<christoph>iceweasle: (firefox-bin:32666): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale.
04:26<alaya>christoph: that's just a warning. you can ignore it
04:26<christoph>Ok alaya .
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04:31<chealer>webPragmatist: "while list; do list; done"
04:31<chealer>webPragmatist: looks like your last semi-comma is at the wrong place
04:32<SLACK>i have a trouble whit debian etch
04:32<designed>SLACK, hahahaha
04:32<webPragmatist>chealer: oh hrm
04:33<SLACK>Can not connect to a network with key wifi wep
04:33<chealer>webPragmatist: COUNTER=$[$COUNTER+1] won't work, BTW
04:33<chealer>webPragmatist: what's supposed to happen each 10000 sec?
04:33<webPragmatist>chealer: yea i had like let COUNTER=COUNTER+1; before
04:33<webPragmatist>wget
04:33<chealer>webPragmatist: wget what?
04:33<SLACK>But if the network is no wep I can connect smoothly
04:33<webPragmatist>something locally heh
04:34<SLACK>someboy have a idea ?
04:34<webPragmatist>because wget saves the file it's a hackish way of grabbing a generated txt
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04:35<webPragmatist>chealer: I keep getting unexpected end of file
04:35<designed>I am having trouble with my desktop XFCE, when booting, Besides managing the desktop and GNOME is not XFCE, and I have to go to setup menu to switch to XFCE ¿¿¿¿ HELP ??? ?
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04:36<jm_>designed: try changing your default session manager
04:37<designed>is default
04:37<designed>T.T
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04:37<webPragmatist>chealer: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_02.html
04:37<webPragmatist>that's where i got the i=
04:37<chealer>webPragmatist: what's the new code?
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04:38<designed>I do not want to remove GNOME why
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04:38<webPragmatist>http://pastebin.com/m983778e
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04:39<webPragmatist>http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-7.html
04:39<webPragmatist>pretty much identical to that
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04:40<webPragmatist>wget.sh: line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
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04:41<jm_>webPragmatist: what is your /bin/sh pointing to?
04:41<webPragmatist>?
04:41<chealer>webPragmatist: I'm sorry. COUNTER=$[$COUNTER+1] should work
04:42<webPragmatist>chealer: i think the example assumes COUNTER is a string if i was to use that
04:42<chealer>jm_: the script has #!/bin/bash
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04:43<chealer>webPragmatist: don't you mean an integer?
04:43<webPragmatist>if you guys have any other ideas to getting this work i'm for it
04:43<webPragmatist>chealer: no.... COUNTER=$[$COUNTER+1] is for if COUNTER is a string
04:43<webPragmatist>and it's not so I can use let COUNTER=COUNTER+1
04:43<jm_>verify if there's a CRLF in that line or somesuch
04:43<jm_>chealer: good point
04:44<chealer>webPragmatist: hum. AFAIK bash has no static types. everything is stored like a string.
04:44<webPragmatist>chealer: I am just basing it how i see it.... that code above was used IF ... COUNTER="0"
04:45<webPragmatist>I have looked at a whole buttload of these examples
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04:46<webPragmatist>there is no CRLF after done
04:46<webPragmatist>if that is what you are wondering
04:46<chealer>webPragmatist: try commenting one of the wget lines until the while works
04:46<webPragmatist>it like just doesn't no wtf "done" means
04:47<jm_>not necessarily after done, maybe after the COUNTER increase line - that script certainly works for me
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04:48<webPragmatist>wtf
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04:48<webPragmatist>COUNTER=0; while [ COUNTER -lt 41084 ]; do echo wget $COUNTER; done
04:48<webPragmatist>just for giggles I did that
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04:49<webPragmatist>get.sh: line 2: [: COUNTER: integer expression expected
04:49<webPragmatist>ok nnm
04:49<jm_>while [ $COUNTER ... ]
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04:50<webPragmatist>it like doesn't liek crlf
04:51<webPragmatist>ok thanks guys it works ... i just made it a huge ass one liner
04:51<jm_>change your editor to write unix style files
04:51<webPragmatist>i was using nano lol ?
04:52<webPragmatist>is sleep in seconds?
04:52<jm_>hmm maybe it's a result of pasting it or somesuch
04:52<jm_>man sleep
04:52<webPragmatist>bleh easier just to try it lol
04:53<chealer>jm_: stop saying man, man. it's exhausting
04:53<webPragmatist>do you guys know of any html parser
04:53<webPragmatist>that like kinda shows what an html page looks like in the CLI
04:54<jm_>lynx or links can do that
04:54<vook>or w3m too :)
04:55<webPragmatist>any of those on aptitude
04:55<vook>all
04:55<webPragmatist>any that works best?
04:55<webPragmatist>:)
04:56<vook>It depends. w3m is the most full featured - but elinks and lynx are better for quick little tasks.
04:57<vook>w3m can be cumbersome though - links and lynx are easier to use.
04:57<vook>I think at least.
04:59<vook>w3m + gpm == a full browsing experience - handles sessions well. For example, w3m works with my university website, while links and lynx choke.
05:00<webPragmatist>any in particular that support meta refresh heh
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05:04<webPragmatist>vook: that is pretty slick
05:04<webPragmatist>vook: and it works perfect :)
05:05<vook>yep - it does well :)
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05:09<webPragmatist>last question and i'll leave you guys alone :) .... is it possible to close my ssh and still have the ssh session active?
05:09<webPragmatist>ie not logout
05:10<azeem>maybe look at screen
05:10<vook>yep - -b I think
05:10<webPragmatist>?
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05:10<webPragmatist>screen is that multiple ssh sessino thing?
05:10<chandu>Hi
05:10<vook>webPragmatist: no - N or f
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05:11<webPragmatist>vook: ? in the ssh sorry I use putty in windows
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05:11<chandu>I want to upload a file of size 2G to my http server
05:11<chandu>I am using this command
05:12<vook>webPragmatist: hmm. ok. yeah, in ssh -f places it in the background after authentication (good for tunneling)
05:12<chandu>dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero count=2048 |curl -v --connect-timeout 5 --upload-file - http://romserver:3466/upload/filename
05:12<chandu>But after uploading of about 300MB or 400MB , its stopping
05:12<webPragmatist>vook: oh ok once you login?
05:12<chandu>this is same in the case of downloadign too
05:13<chandu>Can any one please give me some hint ..what may be causing this problem
05:13<webPragmatist>chandu: or ssh into the server from the ssh?
05:14<vook>webPragmatist: for example, I use this command to open a ssh session forwarding port 5900 (for vnc) "ssh -Nf user@host -L 5900:127.0.0.1:5900"
05:14<webPragmatist>N does?
05:14<chandu>webPragmatist, No I want to use dd and curl ..bcz in my script I am capturing the disk contents using dd and uploading it to my server
05:14<webPragmatist>chandu: sorry I am not talking to you :\
05:14<webPragmatist>replying*
05:14<vook>webPragmatist: -N says "don't execute the shell, just connect and forward the port"
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05:15<webPragmatist>oh ok great
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05:15<vook>webPragmatist: after which, I just type "vncviewer localhost" to connect to the remote vncserver, tunneled over ssh.
05:16<webPragmatist>vook: ok here's the delima :( i want to do that but with w3m there doesn't seem to be a param for "user/path" (simple http auth)
05:16<webPragmatist>but it asks you once you connect
05:17<vook>webPragmatist: you can always use http://username:password@website
05:18<webPragmatist>i tried that lol
05:18<webPragmatist>maybe my password has a special char it dosn't like :\
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05:19<webPragmatist>yep lol
05:19<webPragmatist>heh
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05:21<bougi>hello. I have installed the mysql package and I noticed this. I have only one server on the default port 3306. If I do "mysql --port=3350 -p -u" then the client still does connect with the server even if there's no one listening in 3350. Is there a way to override the defaults settings? (of course this will return an error)
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05:30<webPragmatist>wow this screen thing is cool too... i never though i would use it but nea
05:30<webPragmatist>t
05:30<petemc>sure is
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05:31<webPragmatist>does it copy copied stuff? like from nano
05:31<petemc>i dont follow
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05:32<webPragmatist>well maybe i am misslead
05:32<webPragmatist>like you can cut and copy stuff from an edito
05:32<webPragmatist>r
05:32<webPragmatist>and paste
05:32<petemc>yes
05:32<petemc>^ a [
05:32<webPragmatist>ah cool
05:32<petemc>move the cursor, press enter
05:32<webPragmatist>will try that tommorow sometimes :)
05:35<webPragmatist>petemc: do you cycle only one way (I should read the commands but i will tomorow) using ctrl-a n
05:35<petemc>^ a p
05:36<webPragmatist>ah ok next and previous
05:36<webPragmatist>gotcha
05:36<webPragmatist>one slightly cruddy thing about linux ... no shortcut conformity :P
05:37<webPragmatist>in one app ^O opens the file... in another it outputs it :P
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05:47<jenipapo>hi all
05:48<jenipapo>we try to write serial device drivers for Linux, where to get information except LDD3 ?
05:49<padski>jenipapo, lkml
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05:49<chealer>jenipapo: ask #kernel
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06:06<icwiener>Hi, I just cleaned up my system a lttle bit and then there was the following message aptitude was giving me.
06:07<icwiener>http://rafb.net/p/szR5pE39.html
06:07<jm_>heh
06:07<icwiener>In /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group, root is still there.
06:07<alaya>if anyone knows pam, could they look at http://pastebin.ca/931811 and tell me why pam_alreadyloggedin might not work with this config?
06:08<icwiener>And such a dangerous action should not be continued after appr. 5 seconds anyway!
06:08<icwiener>Is there a bug in the deluser script?
06:08<alaya>in debug output i see that dovecot tries to auth the correct user via pam, but then it complains "pam_sm_authenticate:193 Found matching records in utmp: 0"
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06:10<weasel>http://rafb.net/p/szR5pE39.html
06:10<weasel>sorry
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06:12<jm_>alaya: because you are using common-auth
06:12<alaya>jm_: ok. i was just about to ask if there was some order of precedence in the config file
06:12<jm_>alaya: try putting your rule first
06:14<alaya>jm_: putting it first or last still prompts for password
06:14<alaya>jm_: "Found matching records in utmp: 0" so it seems to be checking something
06:14<jm_>alaya: that somewhat suggests that alreadylogged in module is not returning success
06:15<alaya>jm_: i built the module via alien so maybe there's some problem with it
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06:15<alaya>couldn't get it to build with make
06:17<alaya>if anyone feels like having fun, it is a pretty simple program: http://ilya-evseev.narod.ru/posix/pam_alreadyloggedin/
06:17<alaya>running make gives errors about LOG_DEBUG and LOG_ERR being undeclared in pam_alreadyloggedin.c
06:17<jm_>it builds fine for me
06:18<alaya>jm_: dd you edit the Makefile?
06:18<jm_>alaya: no
06:18<jm_>alaya: try adding #include <sys/syslog.h>
06:19<alaya>oh! worked!
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06:21<alaya>hmm, maybe its some way dovecot is handling the communication with pam. i don't know
06:21<jm_>you could try it with some other app, like login or ssh
06:21<alaya>good idea
06:21<alaya>at least to rule it out
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06:28<webPragmatist>how do you read top
06:28<webPragmatist>most imprtatly the load average heh
06:29<jm_>!load average
06:29<dpkg>[load average] the number of processes marked "runnable" (waiting for CPU), averaged over time. It's like the number of people in line at the checkout. it's possible to have a high load average with low CPU utilization if systems are waiting for resources, eg: io, network socket responses.
06:29<weasel>also, man uptime
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06:29<webPragmatist>jm_: whats the scale?
06:29<weasel>Fri 12:29:31 <weasel> also, man uptime
06:30<jm_>webPragmatist: there is no scale
06:30<webPragmatist>so the number means nothing ?
06:30<webPragmatist>lol?
06:30<weasel>READ THE FUCKING MANPAGE
06:30<jm_>it means the above
06:30<weasel>and it's not funny, so don't say "lol"
06:30<webPragmatist>oh
06:30<webPragmatist>weasel: take a chill pill
06:31<weasel>stop being stupid?
06:31<webPragmatist>stop being a douche?
06:31<weasel>just go away
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06:34<webPragmatist>weasel: no i like it here... I would have searched for man top and tried finding "load average" for like 5 minutes and probably gave up
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06:34<weasel>I can see how this would pose a problem without basic reading skills.
06:35<webPragmatist>sorry ? come again?
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06:44<chealer>I don't really understand the last part, "it's possible to have a high load average with low CPU utilization if systems are waiting for resources, eg: io, network socket responses."
06:44<chealer>why do processes have to wait after the CPU then?
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06:45<amphi>chealer: perhaps if they are polling?
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06:45<jm_>chealer: say if you're reading from a file and kernel is serving another process
06:45<jm_>you have to wait until it's your turn
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06:46<chealer>jm_: but then you're not waiting for CPU, do you?
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06:46<jm_>chealer: no, but it counts in loadavg value
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06:48<chealer>jm_: I see that...
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06:50<shyam_k>hi can i get some more info about LCDproc as in http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/index.php3 ?
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06:51<shyam_k>like whether it can handle unicode to support a language other than english..
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06:53<chealer>dpkg: no, load average is the number of processes that are either in a "runnable" (waiting for CPU) or uninterruptable state, averaged over time. It's like the number of people in line at the checkout. it's possible to have a high load average with low CPU utilization if systems are waiting for other resources, eg: I/O, network socket responses.
06:53<dpkg>okay, chealer
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06:55<wayneward>any good media servers for debian that sream avi files available?
06:56<wayneward>just for local network not for internet share
06:56<petemc>i use ushare for upnp to my xbox
06:57<petemc>and ps3, but it doesnt play anything so hardly worth mentioning
06:57<wayneward>yes i just tried it!
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06:57<wayneward>must be something that streams movies!
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06:58<petemc>ushare streams any media
06:58<wayneward>im using apache2 at the moment its working fine but you cant fast forward movies just play them!
06:58<wayneward>i might try it again
06:58<wayneward>i installed it and went to a browser on the port specified but got nothing
06:59<petemc>fast forwarding will be a function of the speed of your connection
06:59<petemc>it works well for me over smb and upnp with wired ethernet, wireless not so much
07:00<wayneward>if i try to play straight from smb it copies movie accross network
07:00<petemc>i think you're doing something wronf
07:00<petemc>wrong
07:00<wayneward>instead of streaming trys to copy to local machine
07:01<petemc>see abive
07:01<petemc>jesus i cant type
07:01<wayneward>if i browse smb share aand select movie
07:01<wayneward>ha
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07:01<wayneward>you use kaffeine
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07:01<petemc>i do not
07:02<petemc>i use vlc, mostly
07:02<wayneward>petemc whats the procedure what do i need then
07:02<wayneward>ok ill try vlc
07:02<wayneward>so play from samba share with vlc
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07:03<petemc>i dont do anything special, it works fine with either totem or vlc
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07:04<wayneward>so do you just click on samba share and open movie with vlc?
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07:04<petemc>right
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07:07<zhaoy>bonjour
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07:07<gsimmons>shyam_k: Try asking in #lcdproc on irc.freenode.net. See also the "Unicode characters" thread in the lcdproc ML.
07:08<Baggy2>I cannot find the fusion kernel driver in my kernel source tree at drivers/char/fusion, where it is supposed to be :( where can I get it?
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07:10<wayneward_>yup that works!
07:10<wayneward_>they just play accross the network they didnt use to!
07:10<wayneward_>i think i use fish ssh in kde not a straight samba share
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07:24<konradb>hi there
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07:25<stoyan>hi
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07:28<Kebianizao|work>Hello
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07:29<Kebianizao|work>what expression could I use in find so that .svn dirs are not matched?
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07:29<jeffro>Hey there, I have a problem I am installing a machine here with the latest debian etch
07:29<jeffro>But in the installer it cant detect the diskdrive
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07:29<jeffro>So what can I do to solve this?
07:29<Kebianizao|work>I've tried using "-regtype posix-extended -regex [^svn]" but this doesn't work
07:30<jm_>Kebianizao|work: -not name
07:30<Kebianizao|work>jm_: thanks :)
07:30<shyam_k>gsimmons: thanks a lott.i found #lcdproc lonely ..thats why had a try here..ill check that soon..we are planning to build an lcd module which works as a display for our language malayalam using unicode
07:30<jm_>uhm -not -name ... I guess
07:30<Kebianizao|work>jm_: yep, that last :) thanks again
07:31<Kebianizao|work>jeffro: what disk? hard disk?
07:31<jeffro>I know what drive is in but debian doesnt detect it :(
07:31<jeffro>yh
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07:31<jeffro>ITs a maxtor ide ata hard drive
07:31<Kebianizao|work>jeffro: go to a console an and type cat /proc/partitions
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07:31<jeffro>ok
07:31<Kebianizao|work>does that output anything?
07:32<jeffro>major minor #blocks name
07:32<Kebianizao|work>jeffro: umm, serial ata?
07:33<jeffro>No ide
07:33<weasel>chealer: load is the sum of runnable and blocked in io.
07:33<jm_>jeffro: poke arround in /sys/block to see what it found
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07:33<jeffro>how? xD
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07:33<Kebianizao|work>jeffro: ls -R /sys/block/
07:33<jeffro>I can't install now because it doesnt detect it :(
07:33<jm_>cd /sys/block ... ; cd ... ; more foo
07:33<jeffro>-R invalid option
07:34<jeffro>oh
07:34<jeffro>i see it
07:34<jeffro>hdb
07:34<jeffro>and hda
07:34<jm_>but installer doesn't find them? doesn't make sense
07:34<jeffro>indeed
07:34<jeffro>I need to select a driver
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07:35<jm_>it must already be loaded
07:35<jm_>otherwise the drives wouldn't show up there
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07:35<jeffro>:S
07:35<jeffro>weird
07:35<jeffro>I have to select a drive
07:35<jeffro>or else I can't partition
07:35<jm_>well doh
07:36<jeffro>What could I try?
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07:36<Kebianizao|work>jeffro: try to run the disk detection stage again
07:36<jm_>look at what installer says on other ttys
07:36<jeffro>first it says what modules to load
07:37<jeffro>Can only select floppy
07:37<jeffro>[ress enter
07:37<jeffro>now it says something about pcmcia
07:37<jeffro>enter
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07:37<jeffro>I get the list of drives
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07:37<jeffro>again
07:38<Kebianizao|work>jeffro: look the ttys
07:38<jeffro>how?
07:38<Kebianizao|work>ctrl-alt-f<tty#>
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07:38<jeffro>done?
07:38<jeffro>woah
07:39<jeffro>i get a list here
07:39<jeffro>hda errors
07:39<jeffro>wcache flush failed
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07:39<jeffro>drivestatuserros
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07:39<jeffro>But I have to go because im at school atm :/
07:39<jeffro>hope It works next time
07:39<jeffro>See you then
07:39<jeffro>Cya!
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07:45<Kebianizao|work>bye
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07:48<jenipapo>chealer, what is "#kernel"?
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07:54<famelix>hello, Is there someone that speak portuguese?
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07:55<amphi>!pt
07:55<dpkg>Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
07:56<jenipapo>DaniBoy_RN, e brasileiro ?
07:56<DaniBoy_RN>sim.
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08:19<uveX`work>hi, got some problem i use the ffmpeg package from debian-multimedia and get everytime i staht ffmpeg ffmpeg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavformat.so.51: undefined symbol: av_crc04C11DB7 Someone know know to fix that?
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08:28<juma>hi
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08:29<juma>who wanna to start chat with me
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08:30<Maulkin>juma: do you have a debian question?
08:30<chandu>Hi
08:30<juma>no but I started the debain now
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08:31<chandu>When I am uploading some 2G sized file into my server using "curl", the connection is getting closed in between
08:31<juma>ok thanks
08:31<chandu>What may be the problem
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08:31<chandu>With one model of machine its behaving like this , but the same is working on the other model of machine
08:32<chandu>please give me some hints
08:32<chandu>uploading and also downloading ,in both case connection is getting closed ..before the task completes fully
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08:41<chandu>can anyone please answer my query
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08:42<fred__>clear
08:42<fred__>bonjour
08:43<fred__>mettez l'install des packages deb en deportes sur un serveur
08:43<fred__>utilisez le moteur google
08:43<angasule>fred__: hmm, #debian-fr ? :)
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08:46<knoppix_>hello
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08:47<Guest457>hello
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08:48<qq-><Guest457> ?
08:49<Guest457>hello
08:49<qq->hi
08:49<Maulkin>!fr
08:49<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net.
08:50<Guest457>how r u ?
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08:50<azeem>Guest457: do you have a debian question?
08:50<Guest457>qq
08:50<qq->ok
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08:51<Guest457>just installed and fiddling on knoppix.
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08:51<azeem>for knoppix support, please go to #knoppix on irc.freenode.net
08:51<azeem>!knoppix
08:51<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equiv for publishing live systems.
08:51<ChiasticSlide>why do people come in here looking for ubuntu and knoppix support?
08:52<Guest457>sorry. need help to setup a terminal server for thin clients.
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08:52<Guest457>using knoppix
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08:53<azeem>Guest457: see above
08:53<Guest457>ok
08:53<azeem>ChiasticSlide: because this is the default channel of some of the irc clients those distros ship
08:54<ChiasticSlide>figured as much but thought their package maintainers would at least go so far as to change it
08:54<azeem>knoppix is mostly a one-man show, they don't change packages much
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08:55<azeem>Ubuntu reportedly fixed most irc clients now for their next release
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09:00<jm_>luckily they have shorter release cycles than Debian :P
09:00<vook>funny how people dig their own graves by using a nick that exposes their OT intent.
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09:44<peyman_>hi everyone, i use mplayer to play videos and somtimes get this funny thing that it plays the video with almost twice the speed, but the sound is normal. how to fix it?
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09:50<JohnGH>peyman_: I think that may be to do with it not using the exact right codec
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09:50<JohnGH>peyman_: you may find that if you use another player such as vlc it works fine on the same video
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09:51<JohnGH>are you able to check that?
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09:51<peyman_>JohnGH: let me try
09:51<peyman_>JohnGH: xine has no sound!
09:51<JohnGH>xine?
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09:51<peyman_>JohnGH: yeah.
09:52<JohnGH>do you need xine for vlc?
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09:52<peyman_>JohnGH: vlc doesn't even open it
09:53<JohnGH>peyman_: hmm OK
09:53<peyman_>JohnGH: no, i don't need xine for vlc. it's a media player itself.
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09:53<JohnGH>peyman_: I never had any luck with xine when I first looked at it, so stopped bothering with it. Does vlc give you any errors?
09:54<JohnGH>if you launch it from the command line
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09:54<JohnGH>like: vlc /path/to/file
09:54<peyman_>[00000284] access_file access error: seeking too far
09:54<peyman_>[00000284] access_file access error: seeking too early
09:54<peyman_>[00000284] access_file access error: seeking too early
09:54<peyman_>h[00000276] main playlist: stopping playback
09:54<JohnGH>hmm it don't look too happy huh? :o)
09:54<peyman_>yeah!
09:56<JohnGH>is the file very big? (is it chewing up a large percentage of your available disk space?) if you've got room and time to play around you may find that there are tools you can use to convert it to another format that will read it OK, and than when it's in the new format you don't get the same problems.
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09:57<peyman_>it's not too big. it's the "lost" last eposid :P that i downloaded from a website
09:57<JohnGH>peyman_: there are zillions of different codecs out there, and if you can't get the right one media files become kinda useless.
09:57<peyman_>let me try converting it
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09:58<JohnGH>I've installed new codecs on Windows for my gf, but I've never tried doing that on Linux - most things I've wanted to watch have just worked ootb
09:58<peyman_>this one is Macromedia Flash Video
09:58<peyman_>maybe that's why
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10:19<philipp>does some of you know how i serv a homepage with php
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10:22<JohnGH>philipp: Do you have a webserver installed and running already? (like Apache or similar)
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10:33<sasha>hi i ve some unoffical repo in my source.list that i would like to get rid of , but when i do that synaptic signales me some errors when i try to install the same package as in the unofficial , repo , what is the command to see all the packages install from one repo ?
10:34<craigevil>look in the origin tab
10:35<sasha>and do you know the command line with apt-cache
10:36<craigevil>sorry no idea
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10:36<craigevil>what are you trying to install
10:38<JohnGH>sasha: when you say apt-cache - do you use apt-get on the machine too?
10:38<sasha>yes
10:38<JohnGH>sasha: AFAIK it's not good to mix and match using synaptic and apt-get because they record different package information and get out of sync with each other.
10:39<sasha>i installed opensync from the opensync repository but the dependencies does not fit well with evolution , so i uninstalled it and reinstall from the unstable debian repo but i have some weird error now with synaptic
10:39<JohnGH>sasche: for the same reason you should pick one of aptitude and apt-get when you start building a box and stick with it - not using the other. (I only use aptitude now - I used to use apt-get until I discovered aptitude has a command line interface too and is much more powerful)
10:40<JohnGH>what is the error - and have you googled it to see if others had the same error?
10:42<sasha>yes not so much on google until now , my prob is that is says display the confirmation box , with a drop down arrow intitulated , NOT AUTHENTIFICATED , but everything is empty in it and then during the installation it says unable to install , ... broken packages , but when i filter with the broken flag , i can not fing anything
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10:43<sasha>but , i thought synaptic had to be used with apt-get no ?
10:43<JohnGH>is the authenticated to do with the packages in the other repositry not being signed with a PGP key or your not having imported the keys for that repo into your apt keyring?
10:44<Aleric>Does anyone know of linux sites that pay for an article?
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10:45<sasha>i haved imported all the keys while i used it but now i removed it and i think that i have some packaged from that repo that are not removed , so i reinstalled the repo in my source.list and i would like to know or to check all the packages installed from one repo using the command line
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10:46<JohnGH>Aleric: is it that good it's worth paying for? ;-P
10:46<JohnGH>we like doing things for people for free around here :-)
10:46<Aleric>I've done things for free for two life times already
10:47<JohnGH>Aleric: you're on your 3rd life now? you didn't get things right the first two times huh? what changed?
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10:49<JohnGH>Aleric: I've found some great sites that buy articles! :-)
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10:50<JohnGH>Aleric: Have a look at http://www. (register with me to read more - you can pay me by PayPal for registration)
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10:51<Baggy2>I need a fb.modes file on my embedded device. Is there a way to make it automagically?
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11:12<fsateler>Is there a way to create alternative boot options with grub2?
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11:21<DTE>hi
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11:21<DTE>i have a problem compiling something with a myself made kernel
11:22<DTE>i've created a new kernel with sources and headers
11:22<azeem>compiling what exactly?
11:22<DTE>i've installed everything but when i try to compile drbd with those headers
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11:22<DTE>it give me alway errors
11:23<vook>DTE: pastebin the output
11:23<DTE>eh...it's pretty long
11:25<DTE>where do i find m-a log?
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11:25<vook>DTE: make > output then output will be the log.
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11:26<DTE>make? it's not working
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11:28<vook>DTE: are you receiving errors when you run make? Quite possibly some dev packages need to be installed.
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11:29<vook>the errors will usually tip you off as to what lib-dev packages they are.
11:29<DTE>i'm usign m-a to compile
11:29<DTE>and everything is installed
11:29<DTE>it give me errors on the linux headers
11:30<DTE>i already had that problem and solved not using debian way headers
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11:30<DTE>this time i have to use those
11:30<DTE>but stiil not working
11:30*vook hasn't any experience with m-a.
11:32<fsateler>!pastebin
11:32<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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11:32<alephnull>vook: m-a -t --verbose
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11:36<padski>Do packages add entries to /etc/services, what/where are the rules about that ?
11:36<paul0>for some reason, i can play any sound file, when i try to use "aumix" it says "error opening mixer"
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11:36<DTE>http://rafb.net/p/zaiZnx14.html
11:36<DTE>here the log
11:36<vook>paul0: try alsamixer
11:36<paul0>s/i can/i can't
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11:37<jos>hello
11:38<jos>anygirl here
11:38<azeem>!ask
11:38<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
11:38<paul0>vook, oh, it works now, thanks!
11:38<hoopy>so you *have* to explicitly say "source ~/.bash_profile" after running screen?
11:38<DTE>i think the problem is this Makefile_64
11:38<paul0>vook, my sound device was muted, dunno why
11:38<DTE>there's no such file...just a normal Makefile
11:38<jos>whts is?
11:38<hoopy>i tried adding source $HOME/.bash_profile in my .screenrc and it says things like 'alias -- command not found'
11:38<vook>paul0: yep :)
11:38<alephnull>DTE: You need a kernel source directory from which the kernel has been built. A make clean will get rid of the files that m-a needs.
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11:39<paul0>vook, now i can listen to the new NIN album :)
11:39<DTE>alephnull: i have the sources
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11:39<vook>paul0: just install moc and you'll be all set :)
11:40<DTE>they are installed in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24.3
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11:40<DTE>only one thing is different
11:41<DTE>i've compiled those binary on another machine and the sources were in /usr/src/linux-2.6.24.3
11:41<DTE>could be this the problem?
11:41<fsateler>DTE: do you have linux-libc-dev installed?
11:42<alephnull>DTE: does 'm-a prepare' change anything ?
11:42<DTE>m-a prepare tell me everythiing ok
11:42<DTE>but fsateler you're right
11:42<DTE>i have no linux-libc-dev
11:42<alephnull>DTE: And your kernel-source matched your running kernel ?
11:43<DTE>alephnull: yes
11:43<DTE>should i install linux-libc-dev?
11:43<paul0>vook, i'm installing moc now
11:43<fsateler>DTE: yes
11:43<DTE>ahh...it removed linux-kernel-headers
11:43<paul0>vook, also, i'm using debian/amd64, what do you suggest to get a functional browser with java/flash support?
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11:44<DTE>fsateler: the same error
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11:45<vook>paul0: I'm using amd64 too, but running in a 32-bit environment.
11:45<DTE>ahh...linux-libc-dev is from backports....
11:46<DTE>on the other machine i don't have it
11:46<DTE>so i suppose on ethc should not be neccessary
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11:47<vook>paul0: there are ways though - you can chroot or use linux32.
11:47<bgat>anyone know why lxr-cvs is just showing me the source code for its CGI script, rather than the output from it?
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11:49<blueice>anyone with experience with Evolution configured for exchange?
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11:52<padski>!anyone
11:52<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
11:53<alephnull>DTE: Do a make bzImage in the kernel tree (bit don't install anything) and then try m-a again.
11:54<ignu>Anyone know what to do? I'm getting "Unlock Keyring", "Enter password for default keyring to unlock" "The application 'nm-applet' (usr/bin/nm-applet) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked."
11:54<ignu>Can someone point me in the right direction? I've been reading man-pages and googling - making no progress
11:54<ignu>How do I figure out my gnome-keyring password? Neither root nor my user p/w's work
11:54<fsateler>DTE: what exactly are you trying to do?
11:55<alephnull>DTE: And check that you have $KSRC/include/asm/types.h
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11:57<DTE>alephnull: i get this
11:57<DTE>http://rafb.net/p/E1wLL189.html
11:57<DTE>everything i make
11:57<blueice>dpkg, i have tried that many times. However if that is the rule of the room then i will abide but if that is your personal opinion i could care less. No offense intended but it's a lot less annoying to type that simple question and get no reply than typing a longer one with the same result.
11:57<dpkg>blueice: I think you lost me on that one
11:58<DTE>fsateler: i'm trying to compile drbd8 (backported from sid) using a debian-way made kernel image
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11:58<fsateler>DTE: then you need to create the kernel-headers package and install it
11:58<DTE>i have no problem if i compile the drbd with a custom kernel source (vanilla)
11:58<padski>!bot
11:58<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
11:59<DTE>fsateler: i've installed it
11:59<DTE>ii linux-headers-2.6.24.3 2.6.24.3-10.00.Custom Header files related to Linux kernel, specif
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12:00<blueice>dpkg, I have a problem with evolution and I've been coming here posting my question for the last 3 weeks and no one ever responds. I take that as meaning no one can answer the question....and how in the world could I abuse a bot?
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12:01<blueice>dpkg, no one even tells me where else i can go for help
12:01<padski>blueice, dpkg is a bot
12:01<blueice>lol..thanx
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12:02<blueice>padski, they make those things smart. first time getting a response form one
12:02<alephnull>DTE: Open up the file zconf.tab.c and go to line 1493. Are there some strange characters there ?
12:02<azeem>blueice: the point is, you will never get an reply to the simple question
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12:03<DTE>alephnull: yes...at the end i have a lot of @
12:03<blueice>azeem, my point is i never get a reply to my real question. but i understand. I'll just post my problem from now on.
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12:04<alephnull>DTE: Well, something's corrupted the file. Either track it down or do a clean re-install.
12:05<DTE>uhm...i'll try to rebuild the packages
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12:05<alephnull>DTE: The source is corrupted. Rebuilding the packages isn't going to help that.
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12:06<UID1001>where can I find nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-5.deb
12:06<DTE>alephnull: i just did a make-kpgk binary...how could corrupt the source?
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12:07<alephnull>DTE: I have no idea.
12:07<UID1001>where can I find nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-5.deb
12:07<kaner>UID1001: google?
12:07<UID1001>google%
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12:08<UID1001>google > /dev/null
12:09<DTE>wait a second
12:09<blueice>A few months ago when trying to configure an Exchange account with Evolution it crashed because of a bug. So when the next patch came out I installed it. Ever since then when trying to configure and Exchange account in Evolution, a field seem to be missing. It use to ask for the URL but now it just asks for the username. After entering the user name I cannot click forward. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling both the Evolution and all of Gnome but nothi
12:09<DTE>until i don't build nothing in the kernel....
12:09<alephnull>UID1001: Look at packages.debian.org/nvidia-kernel
12:09<DTE>in the sources there's no file such zconf.tab.c
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12:10<Aleric>DTE: zconf.tab.c sounds like a generated file
12:10<UID1001>THere ARe NO PAckage FOr KErnel 2.6.18-5 THere ARe ONly FOr 2.6.18-6
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12:10<alephnull>DTE: make mrproper and start again then
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12:11<padski>UID1001, keyboard problems ?
12:11<UID1001>No.
12:11<lontra>aptitude safe-upgrade
12:11<padski>blueice, what version is you evolution package ?
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12:11<DTE>alephnull: nothing change
12:12<DTE>Aleric: yes i think so...but why is it corrupted?
12:12<UID1001>padski: i became CrAzY because I can't find nvidia-kernel for 2.6.18-5
12:12<blueice>padski, 2.12.3 on Lenny
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12:13<hoopy>does anybody know the trick to getting your .bash_profile to source when you start screen?
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12:14<alephnull>DTE: The zconf.tab.c that I have doesn't have any control characters. You can root through the makefile to see how it is generated.
12:15<padski>hoopy, man bash, at the start
12:16<hoopy>are you talking about -rcfile?
12:16<hoopy>because i know about that. i've tried a dozen differnt things to get screen to use my .bash_profile
12:18<padski>hoopy, ok then. why do you want it to ?
12:18<DTE>alephnull: uff...too complicated for me....i'll try to rebuild new packages from new source
12:18<hoopy>because i have several aliases that aren't set when screen starts and when i open a new virtual terminal in screen
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12:19<hoopy>i can add source $HOME/.bash_profile to my .screenrc but then it complains about not knowing what alias and export mean etc.
12:19<alephnull>hoopy: Aliases should be in .bashrc which is sourced by interactive shells.
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12:20<padski>hoopy, see also bash(1)
12:23<DTE>thak you all for the help
12:23<DTE>bye
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12:24<mignish>Does anyone know if there are problems with the 2.6.22 Kernel and ReiserFS journaling systems?
12:24<blueice>padski, 2.12.3 on Lenny
12:24<mignish>Or is it just me?
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12:26<padski>blueice, yes. I have an exchange box handy and if I can get a lenny with that evo running soon enough I'll take a look.
12:27<mignish>If anyone knows about the root filesystem... ... problem for Lenny (2.6.22 Kernel) please take a look here and let me know how you fixed it: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/116575-just-sits-there-when-booting-after-dist-upgrade.html
12:28<blueice>padski, thanks. My only other thought was to reload the os from scratch.
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12:29<Unterfranke>hallo
12:29<knoppix_>test
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12:33<mignish>Has anyone had problems with Kernel 2.6.22?
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12:33<mignish>not booting anyway.
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12:34<padski>!tell mignish about anyone
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12:39<Zalewa>Hi
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12:39<Zalewa>In DOS there is debug program that allows user to look at contents of CPU registers. How I can look up these contents on Debian?
12:40<blubberdiblub>Zalewa: if you want to debug in user space, you probably want gdb, the gnu debugger
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12:48<christoph>Hi, can someone give me a link how to route an other pc? i can't remember the syntax
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12:51<padski>christoph, "how to route an other pc" ?
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12:59<Guest483>hallo - weiß jemand wie das standard-pw für das prog. disk-admin in knoppix 5.3 lautet
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13:02<padski>blueice, ok. talk me through what I'm doing here.
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13:05<blueice>padski, open evolution. if it's the first time it will prompt you to configure an email account
13:05<padski>ok
13:05<blueice>padski, enter the basic info and hit forward until you get to the Receiving Email page
13:06<padski>server type: exchange ...
13:06<blueice>padski, yep
13:06<blueice>padski, you should see a username field and URL field
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13:07<padski>ok, so how should this URL look. I tried https://foo.example.com/exchange/ but it now work
13:07<padski>s/now/no/
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13:07<blueice>padski, well that's the problem. In my installation I don't get the URL field
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13:09<padski>blueice, you don't get that URL field ?
13:09<padski>blueice, I have evolution-exchange_2.12.2.dfsg-1+b1_i386
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13:09<blueice>padski, let me check mine
13:11<padski>blueice, hey and it works too! that's pretty cool :-)
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13:12<blueice>padski, yep that's the one I have. It's a great feature, the less I have to depend on windows the better for me.
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13:14<padski>blueice, have you tried moving your existing .evolution dir out of the way ? or starting from a new user account ?
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13:14<blueice>padski, no. let me try that
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13:17<icecool>hey there all
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13:17<icecool>i need to ask a question
13:17<padski>!ask
13:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
13:18<angasule>err, I have an OT question but it's very important to me, do car power adaptors for laptop work well? do they kill batteries (the car's or the laptop's)? I'm buying a laptop today and need to know whether to buy an adaptor :/
13:18<icecool>can i make it happen that the root or any other user will only have permission to add any files to a folder but not remove any??? can it be done
13:19<blueice>padski, logged on as the different users and voila, it worked. I tried deleting the directory before but It's works, thanx
13:19<padski>blueice, you are welcome :-)
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13:20<blueice>padski, I also have a issue when trying to train the SPAM filter but I will see if this fixes that issue
13:20<padski>icecool, worm media
13:21<icecool>whats worm media?
13:21<angasule>icecool: write once read many, regular CD-ROMs, for example
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13:22<icecool>na na na..............i want it to be on my hard drive.......... say the folder /var/cache/ i want it to be able to creat files there but not delete them........
13:23<icecool>i mean the root should only have rights to creat files but not delete or modify any existing files...........can it be done?
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13:24<blueice>padski, do you know if the Evolution settings are stored somewhere else. We have verified it has something to do with my profile but moving the .evolution folder only makes messages disappear but my other email accounts are still there.
13:24<padski>angasule, as best I understand it lead-acid batteries are amongst the best for surviving deep discharges. and I reckon a car battery holds a bit more juice than a laptop. is the adaptor third-party ?
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13:24<padski>blueice, I think saw a .gconf dir
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13:25<icecool>so??????????? does anyone know how to do it?
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13:25<padski>!root
13:25<dpkg>It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306
13:26<padski>ok, bad choice of factoid.
13:26<padski>icecool, root is almighty :-)
13:26<luis>ok guys a quick question how to run the gtk-kde4?
13:26<angasule>padski: I haven't chosen one yet, why? it's the first modern laptop we'll own, I'm worried it might kill the laptop's battery or some other bad sideeffect
13:26<icecool>yeah but can root restrict itself from deleting files.???
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13:28<padski>blueice, full list here: .gnome2 .gconf .gnome2_private .recently-used.xbel -evolution .gconfd
13:28<angasule>icecool: only by not doing it, god can choose not to do something
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13:28<icecool>actually the thing is that on my one system........i have mandriva so when i install someting from rpmdrake it downloads the file and puts it in a folder........and deletes it afterwards.........i dont want it to delete the files.........and so far i dont think there is any option in rpmdrake to do this........
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13:28<blueice>padski, still no luck. I have a lot of customizations in this profile I'd hate to have to redo them. Thanx for your help. I'll keep searching for the other pieces of Evolution.
13:29<angasule>icecool: ask the mandriva people, usually there is an option not to delete such files (debian does it by default)
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13:29<GhostlyDeath>There a way to make KDE use my GTK theme from GNOME?
13:30<icecool>yeah ..........i know...........and i did ask the mandriva people..........the only option is to use the --noclean option with urpmi each time......but that is text based and if i forget to put --noclean..........woosh all the files are deleted.........so i dont want it to do that..........
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13:31<icecool>isnt there a way by which i can restrict every user to just be able to creat files in that folder.........but not be able to delete them............
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13:31<GhostlyDeath>I don't know what rpmdrake is nor how to use it
13:32<icecool>well thats why im just asking is there any way to set the permissions?
13:32<angasule>icecool: you are asking for help about mandrive, really, if you /always/ want to use urpmi with --noclean, do somthing like: alias urpmi="urpmi --noclean"
13:33<icecool>ahan and where should the alias be??
13:33<icecool>i mean how do i make it like that
13:33<GhostlyDeath>#
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13:33<icecool>where do i need to put the file or this alias file or setting??
13:34<rjent>Anyone have time to help me with getting my debian workstation to speak with a suse ldap server?
13:35<GhostlyDeath>icecool: You type it in the root terminal
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13:35<angasule>icecool: I don't know mandriva well, an alias is placed in the bash configuration file, for example .bash_aliases
13:35<icecool>ahan thanks all
13:36<icecool>ill try it
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13:36<icecool>right now im quite happy with linux mint and maybe ill put this on that system too.........the only thing i like about mandriva is its application of compiz
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13:37<GhostlyDeath>Compiz Fusion?
13:38<icecool>yeah...........u see i have an ati card..............so only mandriva works with it using all effects of compiz and also allowing full graphic performance
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13:39<GhostlyDeath>How do you know only Mandriva works with it?
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13:40<icecool>because ive tried all other linux version...........ranging from ubuntu to fedora and suse..........and all of them have one problem or some other.........only mandriva works perfectly
13:40<Zalewa>GhostlyDeath?
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13:41<GhostlyDeath>Zalewa?
13:41<GhostlyDeath>icecool: You one of those Mandriva Zealots running around spreading words to people?
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13:42<icecool>na.............personally i dont like mandriva.........i like debian based systems
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13:44<JohnGH>How do I tell ACPI to run s2disk instead of running shutdown when the battery on my laptop gets low?
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13:46<engywuck>!skype
13:46<dpkg>skype is a proprietary cross-platform VoIP program is an evil obfuscated black-box that could be communicating *absolutely* any of your data with third parties. It is not in debian because we are not allowed to distribute it. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
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13:48<cahoot>JohnGH: if you use gnome IIRC you just edit the options for the power management thingie
13:49<seanius>though if you use etch watch out... g-p-m and acpid seem to disagree out of the box on who should handle such things :/
13:49<engywuck>what? gnome let's you edit something? ;-)
13:49<engywuck>*dcks and covers*
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13:50<JohnGH>me quacks at engywuck
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13:50<JohnGH>cahoot: I'm using Fluxbox on Lenny, GTK everything not Gnome
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13:51<JohnGH>seanius: and thanks
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14:04<Woet>I have the SSH2 plugin installed for PHP5, its running fine. But when executing the same file via CLI (php -f bla.php), it says undefined function ssh2_connect
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14:06<[machine]>woet: different php.ini files
14:07<Woet>let me see
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14:07<Woet>where to find the one which is right
14:07<Woet>and which is wrong?
14:07<[machine]>have a look in /etc/php5
14:07<Woet>ah, i see
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14:08<Woet>and how to let cli reload his ini file?
14:08<[machine]>woet: it is loaded when you call php -f bla.php
14:08<Woet>ah
14:08<Woet>k
14:08<Woet>cool
14:08<Woet>fixed
14:08<Woet>thanks
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14:34<seanius>dpkg beer me
14:34*dpkg pours a litre of Bornem Tripple for seanius
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14:38<noble->dpkg roll me a joint
14:38<noble->bah
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14:40<e-Flex_>Drugs r bad, mkay
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14:41<esop>gdamned hippies!
14:41<noble->dpkg, cannabis?
14:41<dpkg>i heard cannabis is the wonderful herb that the unfortunate americans can't worship.
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14:57<stevino>hi all. I installed two drivers for my graphic card. bith the opensource ones and the proprietary ones. how can I know which one I am using?
14:57<stevino>it is an ati video card
15:00<lucas_amorim>Hello, I have installed java plugin both via apt-get and by downloading the .bin at Sun's site. Its not working in firefox (iceweasel) and I have already done the linking... what should i do?
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15:00<cahoot> you can look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log stevino
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15:02<stevino>cahoot: I have the file in front of me, but I'm not sure where I should look for
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15:06<stevino>cahoot: in my xorg.conf file there are entries related with both the opensource drivers and the proprietary drivers. I am not sure which driver the system is curretnly using
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15:08<stevino>I will be back in a minute. I need to restart my pc and see if I manage to get the drivers working
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15:18<zumbi>!hi
15:18<dpkg>hello, zumbi
15:19<zumbi>when you extract a package with ar, how do you build it back?
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15:23<evaH>hallo
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15:28<lucas_amorim>llo, I have installed java plugin both via apt-get and by downloading the .bin at Sun's site. Its not working in firefox (iceweasel) and I have already done the linking... what should i do?
15:28<lucas_amorim>hello8
15:28<lucas_amorim>hello*
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15:37<Arelis>i think that made everything faster
15:37<Arelis>thanks
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15:38<Arelis>but that package is still being held back. can i remove it or is that not good to do?
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15:39<DimkaS>Hi! I've following problem: aptitude --without-recommends still installs recommended packages. Short example: Recommends: ... network-manager-openvpn-gnome, network-manager-vpnc-gnome
15:39<DimkaS>The following NEW packages will be installed
15:39<DimkaS>... network-manager-openvpn-gnome{a} .... network-manager-vpnc-gnome{a}
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15:40<Arelis>hold on, i'll be right back (fixing fglrx issues)
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15:40<DimkaS>full log here: http://paste.org.ru/?t4mrcz
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16:00<ubuntuusers23432>i think compiz disabled my direct rendering how can i check if direct rendering is on ? i am on nvdia 8500 gt
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16:21<matthewpoer>so I'm trying to compile some java stuff, and anything involving java.util.Scanner doesn't seem to be compiling.
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16:21<matthewpoer>even things that I have compiled before. other import libs are coming in (like java.awt.*)
16:21<matthewpoer>what happened to java.util?
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16:23<qq>IDENTIFY
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16:23<vjoe>hello
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16:25<qq>hi
16:26<vjoe>I'm following this tutorial ( http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/03/how-to-backup-evolution/ ) to restore my Evolution data
16:26<vjoe>but when I do $gconftool-2 --unload evolution_setting.xml
16:26<vjoe>it says:
16:26<vjoe>I/O warning : failed to load external entity "evolution_setting.xml"
16:26<vjoe>Failed to open `evolution_setting.xml': No such file or directory
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16:26<vjoe>where should the file be?
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16:30<qq>vjoe use ls -a to view chached files in /home/vjoe ,
16:31<vjoe>the file isn't in my home directory
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16:33<qq>but where is ?
16:33<vjoe>I don't know, it doesn't say in the tutorial :s
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16:35<vjoe>hm, I solved it with an easier way
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16:35<vjoe>btw, do you know how to install ATI drivers on Debian 32bits?
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16:35<vjoe>I only managed to do it with Ubuntu
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16:36<qq>apt-get install xservers-xorg-video-ati*
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16:36<vjoe>will I have 3d aceleration with tem?
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16:38<Torsten_W>qq: there is no package xservers-xorg-video-foo only xserver-xorg-video-foo
16:38<Torsten_W>vjoe: which chipset?
16:38<vjoe>ATI Radeon 9600 XT
16:38<Torsten_W>vjoe: then yes
16:38<qq>sorry
16:38<vjoe>btw, I searched for the package with aptitude and I have it installed already
16:39<vjoe>I'm going to download Warsow in order to test it
16:40<qq>I correct apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
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17:16<nickel>hello
17:16<lex>jo
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17:17<nickel>есть русские ? )
17:17<lex>да
17:17<lex>:)
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17:20<dkr>!ru
17:20<dpkg>ru is probably Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
17:20<lex>em
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17:20<lex>sorry guys
17:21<dkr>they use koi8r, not utf8, though. for some silly reason
17:21<lex>no , utf8 )))
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17:22<lex>you cant see russian , because you dont have russian locale
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17:27<qq>we see ... <nickel> есть русские ? )
17:27<qq><lex> да
17:27<lex>есть :)
17:27<dkr>lex: I have no problem, I was just letting you know that #debian-russian on freenode uses koir8r because you are using utf8 here. #linux-russian uses utf8, btw
17:28<lex>no matter ... i dont like koir8
17:28<lex>prefer utf8
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17:29<dkr>oh, there is also a #debian-ru which uses utf8, but only 5 people. I guess they are trying to get people to convert to utf8 as they should :)
17:30<Zalewa>stupid question: how to copy something to clipboard from putty (mcedit)? ctrl+insert doesn't seem to work
17:30<dkr>try middle click
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17:30<Zalewa>nope
17:30<dkr>oh, from putty to clipboard. just highlight it? a ctually zi think it might be qpreference as to how to copy/paste exactly
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17:32<lex>i dont wnat join #debian-ru , i prefer socialize in english :)))
17:33<qq>oceni harasho
17:33<lex>:))
17:34<lex>not bad :)
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17:35<qq>spasiba
17:36<lex>))
17:36<Zalewa>oh, putty faq answers this question
17:36<Zalewa>:/
17:37<lex>Zalewa, try middle button - it works
17:38<lex>select text, then middle button for pate :)
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17:43<_fang>hi there! a quick question. i just installed windows on a second hd i got here, i have debian installed on another one. running update-grub will fix my menu.lst so that it will include the windows hd also, right?
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17:45<_fang>or at least it should
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17:46<Zalewa>yeah I figured it out already
17:46<Zalewa>thanks anyway
17:46<Zalewa>it seems that you can't do that in mcedit so I just used cat
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17:55<posix>I just upgraded to a 22" widescreen monitor, and I'd like to redetect it without rebooting to get the new resolutions and whatnot. What do I need to do?
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17:55<oxymor00n>posix: xrandr --auto
17:56<posix>oxymor00n: just run that within x/kde?
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18:05<rain>hello. Can anyone tell me why I cant write to my Fat32 partiton in gnome. I can do it in console window. my fstab is like this: /dev/hda2 /mnt/Fat32 umask=0,user,auto,rw 0 0
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18:06<engywuck>can you write on console to it?
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18:06<rain>yes
18:06<engywuck>thatn it looks like a gnome-problem
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18:07<rain>intresting
18:07<rain>i must try then KDE . lets hope its better
18:07<cwood>Good evening. Anybody managed to reconfigure their keyboard controls in mednafen?
18:08<engywuck>@rain: what's your result for
18:08<engywuck>ls -ld /mnt/Fat32 ?
18:09<rain>drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 16484
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18:12<engywuck>hmmm
18:13<engywuck>shouldn't be a Problem for Fat, but could you look if /mnt/Fat32/. says the same?
18:13<rain>ok
18:13<engywuck>oh, and another thing: when did you change/set the umask=0?
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18:13<rain>the same thing
18:13<engywuck>before or after logging in to Gnome?
18:14<rain>it was after logging on Gnome
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18:14<rain>do you think that Gnome needs to be restarted ?
18:14<engywuck>perhaps some caching
18:14<rain>ok
18:14<engywuck>you could try...
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18:15<rain>but i have on fast question more. do you know what i have to add to fstab for my Fat32 partition to see letters like Äüöõ
18:15<engywuck>depends on what your filenames on Fat32 are encoded to
18:15<engywuck>I have a partion here that's utf-8 (sunno why)
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18:15<engywuck>else it's some cp....
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18:16<engywuck>cp1252 or sth like that
18:16<rain>i live in estonia if it is some help
18:17<engywuck>what do the characters instead of äöüß etc look like now?
18:17<rain>and the partition is made with windos
18:17<seanius>rain: probably specifying iocharset in the mount options?
18:17<rain>i added the utf-8
18:18<engywuck>then it's probably cp1257, see http://www.science.co.il/Language/Character-Code.asp?s=1257
18:18<rain>but know debian says to me that there is some kind of missing codepage
18:18<engywuck>add codepage=1257 to your fstab entry
18:18<engywuck>and try
18:18<engywuck>cp1257 i mean
18:19<rain>i try
18:20<engywuck>or iocharset= ... :)
18:20<engywuck>since i only have a utf-8 fat...
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18:21<rain>still missing codepage
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18:22<rain>unable to load NLS charset cp1257
18:22<rain>i have to install it
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18:22<rain>but what is the package name
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18:26<qq>rain http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=+charset+cp1257&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
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18:28<qq>maybe http://packages.debian.org/etch/kde-i18n-et ?
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18:30<engywuck>is there a *working* Debian Live CD that's installable directly to an USB stick?
18:31<RichiH>engywuck: there is grml
18:31<RichiH>engywuck: it is not 100% debian, but rather close to it and really good
18:32<engywuck>I'll have a look
18:32<engywuck>sidux didn't work
18:33<RichiH>engywuck: if it does not work, join #grml on freenode
18:33<RichiH>they are vary happy to help
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18:35<andrew>is 64bit worth it, if I have hardware support?
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18:37<qq>engywuck: www.grml.org/download | http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=usb
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18:37<engywuck>thx
18:38<qq>welcome
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18:43<Ouroboros>why does the installer by default include contrib on updates but not the main apt source?
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18:46<qq>Ouroboros ask on #debian-installer ?
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18:47<alaya>Aleric: ?
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18:49<Ouroboros>well i dont mind that it does that, i am just wondering if its in fact necessary to have contrib there
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18:50<qq>rain maybe http://packages.debian.org/etch/kde-i18n-et ?
18:50<qq>Ouroboros is a typo only , or so
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18:56<rain>hello , me again :D
18:57<rain>i have a problem with codepages
18:57<rain>but could it be i have some codepages not installed for some regions , like east europe
18:57<qq> rain maybe http://packages.debian.org/etch/kde-i18n-et ?
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18:59<rain>i am using gnome
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19:07<qq>rain locales libx11-data
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19:09<qq>rain have you seen my last post ?
19:09<rain>no
19:09<engywuck>!opera
19:09<dpkg>Opera is a cross-platform web browser and Internet suite which handles common internet-related tasks including visiting web sites, sending and receiving e-mail messages. Opera is Freeware (>=Version 8.5), but NOT Open-Source. see <opera apt>
19:09<engywuck>!opera apt
19:09<dpkg>check http://www.opera.com/support/search/view/841/?keyword=apt&platformID=7
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19:09<rain>no qq
19:09<qq>rain locales libx11-data
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19:11<esop>Opera is a version of web browser while Ice Weasel is a perversion of web browser... dirty little weasel!
19:11<engywuck>tsts
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19:11<engywuck>opera is non-free, iceweasel is
19:12<engywuck>at least both are not internet exploders
19:12<esop>trudat
19:12<rain>@qq . my locales.gen file is empty
19:12<ravenbird>okay, rain
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19:13<llama32>what's a good channel to talk strange/embedded hardware?
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19:14<travisx>i need help :(
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19:15<qq>rain not good
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19:16<rain>i generated to it
19:16<gsimmons>!tell llama32 -about emdebian
19:16<rain>en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
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19:16<Hugo>Hallo
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19:18<jsteezey>i just compiled a kernel and installed it, but cant get nvidia to work, i used the installed script and Envy with no luck, any ideas?
19:18<alaya>!tell jsteezey about nvidia
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19:19<jsteezey>thanks
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19:24<fancyladd>I am having some trouble getting the linuxrc script in my initrd to run.
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19:25<fancyladd>I have only been able to get a script to run if it is called init.
19:26<fancyladd>but the man page for initrd says that if there is a file called linuxrc that it will be exected.
19:27<fancyladd>does anyone here know about ram disks in debian etch and why linuxrc won't exectue? (btw I have made sure that x bit was set)
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19:27<qq>rain do you has msttcorefonts ?
19:28<rain>what are theese
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19:30<qq><rain> apt-get install msttcorefonts . microsoft true type core fonts
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19:31<rain>qq i dont think that the problem is in fonts , i dont see
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19:31<rain>theese letters (äöõü) in konsole alsou
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19:32<rain>but i can type them if i change my keyboard to estonian
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19:33<rain>qq thanks a lot for help but i think it is time to go to sleep today. in here is the time 2:33 AM
19:33<qq>here 1:33 , bye
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20:19<benkong2>hello all
20:20<benkong2>I have a question about messages showing on my console
20:20<benkong2>I use this rule in my firewall script
20:20<benkong2>$IPT -A Rejectwall -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG --log-prefix "Rejectwall: "
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20:20<amphi>you want to suppress console messages?
20:20<benkong2>what is happening this rule is echoing to all my consoles. Even if I turn syslog off the messages still come to the terminal
20:21<benkong2>and they are in the /var/log/messages file also
20:21<benkong2>what am I doing wrong?
20:21<amphi>do 'dmesg -n1'
20:22<benkong2>amphi: no output
20:22<amphi>benkong2: no, there won't be
20:22<benkong2>ok
20:22<amphi>that will suppress the display of such messages
20:22<benkong2>oh ok
20:22<benkong2>is that permanet?
20:23<amphi>until reboot ;)
20:23<gsimmons>benkong2: You may want to consider installing 'ulogd' and use the ULOG target instead.
20:23<gsimmons>!tell benkong2 -about ulogd
20:23<benkong2>can I set this in the syslog-ng.conf?
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20:25<amphi>gsimmons: that looks handy, thanks
20:25<benkong2>hmmm sure does
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20:31<benkong2>ok my messages log is full of these
20:31<benkong2>Rejectwall: IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0c:31:f4:28:01:08:00 SRC=10.125.96.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=434 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=59217 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=414
20:31<benkong2>where are they comming from?
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20:36<engywuck>look for the ports
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20:37<engywuck>http://www.linklogger.com/UDP67_68.htm
20:37<engywuck>that's pert of DHCP
20:37<engywuck>so someone in your network does DHCP
20:37-!-istoc [~go@crown-6-32.resnet.ucsc.edu] has joined #debian
20:38<engywuck>and since DHCP uses broadcasts initially (it can't know whom to ask)....
20:38<benkong2>engywuck: I am the only one on my network
20:38<istoc>Hi, I'm trying to remove a physical extent from a volume group with pvmove. The problem is that it's complaining that there are no available extents even though df says there's free space.
20:39<istoc>oops, physical volume*
20:39<benkong2>and this is my network server that hands out DHCP IP's
20:39<engywuck>but a computer with IP 10.125.96.1 does ask for DHCP
20:39<engywuck>hmmm, then it shouldn't reject... :)
20:39<engywuck>does your DHCP work?
20:39<benkong2>my private IP is 10.0.0.0
20:39<benkong2>yes it works fine
20:40<engywuck>no idea then
20:40<benkong2>my private IP network is 10.0.0.0 range 100 to 125
20:40<benkong2>I am connected to a RR router into my debian box and then my debian box is connected to an 8 port router
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20:41<benkong2>my printer has a fixed ip
20:41<benkong2>only place I can think it might originate is the RR modem/router
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20:43<benkong2>and eth1 is my WAN facing NIC.
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20:46<istoc>Could someone at least tell me how I have free space but pvdisplay says all my drives are full?
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21:07<gsimmons>istoc: df won't tell you anything about physical extent availability, use pvs/pvdisplay for that. What exactly are you trying to do, remove a disk from your system?
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21:10<istoc>gsimmons: Yea, I wanna remove a partition from my VG. pvdisplay says all my drives are allocatable but full
21:12<gsimmons>istoc: How recent are your backups?
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21:12<istoc>gsimmons: What do you mean?
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21:13<gsimmons>istoc: You'd want to ensure you have a backup of your system prior to a pvmove operation.
21:14<istoc>gsimmons: Oh, well it's mostly stuff I don't really care too much about
21:14<gsimmons>istoc: "Mostly"?
21:15<istoc>It's publically available material I could just redownload
21:17<istoc>gsimmons: But yes, I understand there are risks in using pvmove. I mostly want the drive for another system. The one I'm taking it from hasn't been used in awhile
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21:19<gsimmons>istoc: See <http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/removeadisk.html>. It appears you don't have enough physical extents available, which requires you follow the procedure in 13.5.2. In short, add/prepare a new disk (of sufficient capacity), add it to your volume group, move the data off the old disk (via pvmove) then remove the disk (via vgreduce).
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21:22<zoXea>how i can register for a username?
21:23<dondelelcaro>zoXea: /msg nickserv help
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21:24<istoc>gsimmons: Well, that really isn't an option. The disk I want to remove is bigger than all of the other HDs I have.
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21:34<gsimmons>istoc: Then you'll need to free up extents via some other method, such as reducing the size of your filesystems with free space, then their respective logical volumes to match.
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21:35<istoc>gsimmons: Ah, I forgot the FS doesn't always correspond with disk space. Thank you
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21:38<Woet>How to ban certain IP's globally from my dedicated server, view the list of banned IP's and edit/remove them?
21:38<Woet>giving reasons could be extremely easy for me as well
21:39<Woet>is there software to do such thing?
21:40<blueice>I'm running Lenny, created a new user account, logged on as the new user and now my sound doesn't work saying there are no sound devices and I can't mount a flash drive. any help?
21:40<Supaplex>Woet: iptables
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21:41<Woet>very clear..
21:41<Woet>how to install it, how to use it, etc?
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21:42<rrm>hi room
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21:44<Supaplex>humm woet left quick. his loss. meh
21:44<rrm>guys how can i install usb flash drives... i did a minimal install with x and fluxbux but my oti flash drive doe snot show
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21:45<peyman_>rrm: i use usbmount
21:46<rrm>payman: its says command not found
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21:49<rrm>anyone else?
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21:51<azeem>rrm: monitor syslog while you plug it in
21:51<azeem>does it get detected?
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21:52<rrm>nothing seems to work.. i did lsusb and all seems fine... shows all my ports
21:53<blueice>I'm running Lenny, created a new user account, logged on as the new user and now my sound doesn't work saying there are no sound devices. any help?
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21:54<rrm>that would of been my second question, lol
21:55<azeem>blueice: you probably have to add the new user to the audio grou
21:55<azeem>group*
21:55<azeem>compare the output of "groups" for the initial and the new user
21:56<blueice>azeem, i saw it as soon as you said it. I didn't know things like sound was controlled by groups
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22:17<RIVE>Hello, good evening.
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22:22<rrm>hi rive
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22:24<RIVE>Hi rrm.
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22:28<SomeUser>anyone have an idea about why I can ping from tty but any other requests are going through lo? I'm obviously online right now but only from the gui
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22:39<alaya>Aleric: ?
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22:48<SomeUser>anyone?
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23:02<alaya>hi
23:03<SomeUser>hello
23:03<alaya>please rephrase your problem
23:05<SomeUser>ok, my HTTP_PROXY is being set to 127.0.0.1:8118 in the tty but it shows up as blank in the gui command line
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23:06<SomeUser>I can run lynx from the gui without a problem but it wants to connect to localhost from the tty
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23:06<alaya>127.0.0.1 is localhost
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23:07<alaya>lynx is a terminal application, so how can it not run in a tty?
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23:07<Xenguy>alaya: lynx runs at a VT
23:07<Xenguy>er, tty, whatever
23:08<alaya>its a terminal-based browser
23:08<alaya>links is much better by the way
23:09<Xenguy>alaya: agreed
23:09<SomeUser>yeah, i usually use w3m
23:09<amphi>I like w3m also
23:09<Xenguy>SomeUser: it's very good but has differentkey bindings I found
23:09<SomeUser>i refer to tty as the CTRL+ALT+Fn*
23:10<SomeUser>never messed with links much to know
23:10<SomeUser>amphi: i refer to gui command line as gnome-terminal
23:11<alaya>SomeUser: do the X virtual terminals pick up the proxy env var?
23:11<Xenguy>SomeUser: console vs. terminal ?
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23:12<SomeUser>X terminals don't pick up the env variable
23:12<alaya>SomeUser: you could launch it like: HTTP_PROXY=127.... lynx
23:12<SomeUser>consoles get the variable that I don't want; X terminals do not get set
23:13<alaya>if you don't want it, why do you set it?
23:13<Xenguy>SomeUser: gnome-terminal will source ~/.bashrc or whatever
23:13<SomeUser>I didn't set it, wondering what is setting it
23:13*Xenguy searches for tuneage...
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23:14<rrm>no more netinstall for testing?
23:14<alaya>its being sourced from either system-wide or local config - profile or bash_profile or bashrc
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23:15<alaya>SomeUser: is the shell the same for regular console and X console?
23:16<alaya>echo $SHELL
23:16<alaya>maybe non-x one is not bash?
23:16<SomeUser>same
23:16<gsimmons>!tell rrm -about testing iso
23:18<alaya>SomeUser: until you find out where it is, i guess you could use unset HTTP_PROXY; lynx to run it
23:18<SomeUser>yeah
23:18<SomeUser>googling it now
23:18<SomeUser>thanks for the help
23:18<alaya>or just create a bash alias to do that
23:20<SomeUser>funny, unsetting it doesn't affect lynx but w3m works fine
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23:22<alaya>i used to like lynx but it became so buggy i got sick of it
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23:23<alaya>something about a microsoft mime-type when you were just trying to go to a normal page
23:23<alaya>totally whacked
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23:24<alaya>and it stopped working to where i could set it to open my own custom start page by default
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23:25<SomeUser>yeah, i have it installed for it's dump feature; use it with 'dictator' sometimes
23:26<alaya>i just thought, something that's supposed to be a basic CLI web browser giving me this kind of headache just isn't worth it. switch to links.
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23:27<alaya>that was also after filing a few bug reports
23:27<RIVE>usb 2-10: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
23:27<RIVE>scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
23:27<RIVE>usb-storage: device found at 5
23:27<RIVE>usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
23:27<RIVE>usb-storage: device scan complete
23:27<RIVE>scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
23:28<alaya>RIVE: use pastebin.ca don't paste here
23:29<RIVE>Sorry alaya, window eror, tought I have in a private, very sorry.
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23:30<alaya>np
23:30<alaya>surprised it didn't autokick
23:31<RIVE>Yes, will take more caution next time.
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23:36<SomeUser>privoxy was the problem...i installed it a while back to try out tor's speed and i guess the settings were never removed
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23:37<alaya>SomeUser: but i use privoxy and it does not set HTTP_PROXY by default
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23:42<alaya>is there any command to find out where an env var is sourced from?
23:42<alaya>i guess that is dreaming...
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23:43<Xenguy>alaya: usually .bashrc or .bash_profile or /etc/profile (depending on the $SHELL in use)
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23:44<alaya>true. i guess you could write a simple script to parse all possible sources
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