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---Logopened Tue Mar 18 00:00:09 2008
00:00<kerneld>_ZeuZ_: not really sure what is happening. -I INPUT drop rule for the IP should be killing the packet before forwarding
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00:04<saser>saludos a la banda
00:04<saser>:-D
00:06<_ZeuZ_>no further time to test it, that PC has dissconnected
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00:07<komputer04>m
00:07<komputer04>u
00:07<komputer04>fsf
00:07<_ZeuZ_>kerneld: just by your nickname, let me ask you something appart from that... I compiled my kernel taking in the basis the power governor and the frequency governor made build it, still when I reboot with that kernel, it tells me that the frequency governor is unavaible... what can be happening?
00:08<komputer04>plish slowly
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00:09<kerneld>_ZeuZ_: not sure. Sorry. Only had cheapass CPUs to play with till recently.
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00:12<Supaplex>~lart missing RFC 4338 support
00:12*dpkg whips out a sword and chops missing RFC 4338 support in half
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00:16<_ZeuZ_>Supaplex: What's that? :)
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00:19<Supaplex>arp,ipv4,ipv6 over fibre channel
00:19<_ZeuZ_>!rfc 4338
00:20<_ZeuZ_>@rfc 4338
00:20<_ZeuZ_>dpkg, mind you reply ;)?
00:20<_ZeuZ_>Supaplex: Don't take me wrong... I'm pretty new to this, and willing to learn
00:21<Supaplex>http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4338.txt
00:21<_ZeuZ_>Here we've got an e1 connection dependant of a Fiber Optic channel, where they use a version of Red Hat Enterprise as I've seen...
00:22<Supaplex>I might stick opensolaris in xen, and pass the fc hba into that guest and use http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nws/
00:22<Supaplex>not really my idea of fun
00:22<Supaplex>oh wait. that's not rfc4338 :P that's a SAN I think
00:23<_ZeuZ_>Storage Area Network?
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00:24<kerneld>grr. SATA not working either...
00:25<_ZeuZ_>kerneld: wich was your problem mate?
00:25<_ZeuZ_>driver issue?
00:26<kerneld>yep
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00:27<_ZeuZ_>tried the pATA drivers?
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00:27<_ZeuZ_>woooooooooow, wine 1.0 close to release :)
00:27<Supaplex>!rsn
00:27<dpkg>rsn is, like, Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh"
00:28<kerneld>modprobe -l doesn't have any disk modules just usb and net stuff...
00:28<kerneld>bootstrap issues for the box.
00:28<_ZeuZ_>!bootstrap
00:28<dpkg>somebody said bootstrap was the method of booting an OS, ask about ybin, yaboot, Apple_Bootstrap, quik, lilo, silo, or grub.
00:28<_ZeuZ_>why should one preffer bootstrap against grub/lilo ?
00:29<kerneld>_ZeuZ_: bootstrap in the conceptual sense...
00:29<kerneld>not a specific technique
00:30<Supaplex>are you installing debian? what sata controller is it? what debian release is it?
00:30<kerneld>lenny/Intel 82801I
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00:31<Supaplex>does the installer pick up the sata drive?
00:31<kerneld>nope
00:31<Supaplex>!pmuto
00:32<Supaplex>!kumto
00:32<Supaplex>humm
00:32<Supaplex>!kmuto
00:32<dpkg>For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
00:32<kerneld>well not that I can see.. it is the win32 one. debian.exe - trying it out. Seems like it is not ready for current Dell breeds
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00:33<kerneld>Supaplex: I am using the beta-1 lenny d-i
00:33<Supaplex>I see. there is an expert mode to download a kernel and initrd of your choosing
00:33<Supaplex>wow. you might have to resort to pata legacy support in the bios
00:33<kerneld>I can put them in mu C:\debian I guess....
00:34<Supaplex>that'll work :)
00:34<kerneld>for small definitions of work :P
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00:37<Supaplex>breaking the kernel is as easy as dell ;)
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00:40<kerneld>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590931 << Worth a shot. turn on 'RAID' support..
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00:42<_ZeuZ_>lol
00:43<Supaplex>:)
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00:45<iunixan>how to run xen on debian?
00:45<Supaplex>!xen
00:45<dpkg>well, xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. try #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net
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00:46<Supaplex>!tell iunixan -about search
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00:51<kerneld>Supaplex: Thanks for the kmuto link. That aught to tide me over...
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01:06<jazzanova>hi
01:06<sujith_h>I have faced an issue with KDE in debian Etch.
01:06<jazzanova>wheredo I get basic fonts ? in what package ?
01:07<sujith_h>I had installed the relevant packages for KDE.
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01:08<sujith_h>Earlier I used Gnome. Now I moved to KDE. Hence in my laptop the default is now KDE.
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01:09<sujith_h>I got the KDE login screen. But when I login using my user name and passwd, it doesn't login. Hence I see the same login window again.
01:10<sujith_h>But I have got the error message redirected to a file.
01:10<sujith_h>It seems like this
01:11<sujith_h>Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
01:11<sujith_h>AUDIT: Mon Mar 17 23:20:55 2008: 4927 X: client 2 rejected from local host
01:11<sujith_h>AUDIT: Mon Mar 17 23:20:55 2008: 4927 X: client 2 rejected from local host
01:11<sujith_h>AUDIT: Mon Mar 17 23:20:55 2008: 4927 X: client 2 rejected from local host
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01:12<sujith_h>can any one help me
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01:19<JustSoul>morning
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01:22<iunixan>sorry for unclarity, what i wanted is a gui tool like "virt-manager" on centos!
01:23<peyman>how can i invoke xterm that it uses the large font size by default? it's too small
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01:25<kerneld>peyman: xresedit
01:26<kerneld>or resedit
01:26<kerneld>and xfontsel
01:27<kerneld>find the resource for your xterm and change it to your desired front string fro xfontsel
01:27<peyman>kerneld: hmph! let me try.
01:27<kerneld>Its a bit 'old-skool'
01:28<p_quarles>peyman: or -- I use .Xdefaults, but if you're looking for something very simple, just xterm -fs [fontsize value]
01:28<peyman>yeah, definitely.
01:28<peyman>p_quarles: xterm -fs [] won't work for me
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01:28<peyman>p_quarles: doesn't make any difference when i say xterm -fs 14.0 with when i say -fs 24.0
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01:30<p_quarles>peyman: I just pasted the xterm settings from my .Xdefaults, if they might be of any use: http://pastebin.ca/947130
01:30<peyman>p_quarles: thank you :-)
01:30<p_quarles>you probably don't have that font, though, so make sure to change that ;)
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01:40<kerneld>snooze.... d/l iso
01:42<Supaplex>kerneld: coolness. have fun with your happy new hardware :)
01:42<kerneld>Thanks..
01:44<jackal>having kernel issues with geforce fx 5200 video card
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01:46<jackal>is there a way to diable or bypass udevd
01:46<kerneld>stoneage2hc
01:47<jackal>?
01:48<Supaplex>what kind of issues?
01:48<jackal>abnormal exits a call trace and stack info
01:48<jackal>i am very green on this
01:49<Supaplex>is this on etch?
01:49<jackal>yes
01:49<jackal>2.6.18.5
01:49<jackal>-686
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01:52<Supaplex>jackal: I don't see any reports like this on bugs.debian.org/udev - maybe you should file a bug report. I'm not sure what disabling udev will break.
01:52<Supaplex>!rcconf
01:52<dpkg>"rcconf" is, like, a frontend to the update-rc.d, or check out "sysv-rc-conf" - see these http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 and http://blogs.cyberciti.biz/hm/index.php/2005/10/27/removing-unwanted-startup-debian-files-or-services/ and ask me about <services> ...and if it's broken, try this: for a in $(ls /etc/rc?.d/???jabber) ; do rm $a ; done
01:53<jackal>would not mind filing but this happens on first boot
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01:53<Supaplex>!single
01:53<dpkg>rumour has it, single is <single user mode> to boot for recovery/rescue. man init, or boot with "single" as a kernel option. Also, init=/bin/bash if init is very brain dead. (filesystems are usually readonly and shell has no job control. unmount and reboot with care)
01:53<jackal>does the same thing on single
01:53<Supaplex>use init=/bin/sh 1 for the kernel
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01:54<Supaplex>you'll have to do everything by hand :) like mounting, /etc/init.d/network start etc
01:55<jackal>i'm using a luks filesystem
01:55<Supaplex>huh?
01:55<jackal>encrypted filesysem
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01:56<Supaplex>does init=/bin/sh not work? I'm aloof to this encryption stuff
01:57<jackal>its a logcal volume encryption
01:57<Supaplex>!luks
01:57<dpkg>somebody said luks was cryptsetup with luks support: "http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/debian/". LUKS is a secure way to store key's for a cryptopartition. See http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469 and google 'LUKS Debian' for more info
01:57<jackal>where would i be putting the init line
01:58<jackal>crypto partition is what i have
01:58<Supaplex>type e to edit single in grub, add it to the end of the kernel args
01:59<jackal>i'm in
01:59<jackal>now what
02:00<Supaplex>mount / -o remount,rw
02:01<jackal>ext3 fs on dm-1, internal journal
02:02<Supaplex>i'm looking at init.d/udev 1m
02:02<jackal>k
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02:03<Supaplex>chmod -x /sbin/udevd if you got this far, we should be able to undo this later if this doesn't work, or is the 'wrong way' or something.
02:03<Supaplex>the initscript exits if it's not executable
02:04<jackal>seems fine still
02:05<Supaplex>after chmod, mount / -o remount,ro ; sync
02:05<Supaplex>then reboot
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02:05<digital_freak_0_o>anyone put ubuntu on a ps3?
02:05<Supaplex>digital_freak_0_o: /topic
02:06<jackal>do i boot like normal
02:06<Supaplex>jackal: yup. how's it working so far?
02:06<jackal>testing
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02:07<jackal>mount point /dev/shm does not exist, is new.
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02:08<jackal>/etc/init.d/rc:line 77 1707 Segmentation fault $@
02:08<jackal>other than that same as before
02:08<Supaplex>humm. have you tested this machine with memtest86+?
02:08<jackal>still have not completed first boot
02:09<Supaplex>!memtest86+
02:09<dpkg>it has been said that memtest is http://www.memtest.org/ . Also check out http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/, or check out the packages memtest86 and memtest86+, or "aptitude install memtest86+" and read /usr/share/doc/memtest86+, or for cpu temperature testing use the cpuburn package, or ask me about <cpuburn>
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02:09<Supaplex>it can be run w/o linux
02:09<jackal>no, i personally have ont
02:09<jackal>no
02:09<jackal>t
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02:12<jackal>i should note that i am passing kernel args, agp=off and napic
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02:25<jackal>i got the system past udev
02:25<jackal>x died due to no devices found
02:28<Supaplex>I'm off to bed. a hardware report might give us better clues. install memtest86+ and run it from the bootloader for a few full complete passes just to make sure
02:28<Supaplex>good luck.
02:29<jackal>have theory am trying now
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03:26<Brudus>how come when I type ifconfig nothing happens. I have gnome-nettool installed.
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03:30<jm_>Brudus: is that calling /sbin/ifconfig?
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03:31<Brudus>oh it works now. i thought the command was just "ifconfig" "/sbin/ifconfig" worked.
03:31<dondelelcaro>it is just ifconfig, but you have to have /sbin in your path.
03:32<Brudus>okay.
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03:34<knireme>anyone know why could this happen? I have Marvell Yukon 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller, so I type "modprobe sky2", and it works, BUT after that, ifconfig does not see eth0 or eth1 or anything
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03:35<spq>ddoes ifconfig -a see them?
03:36<spq>and what doess dmesg say?
03:36<jm_>good old sky2 crap
03:36<knireme>thanks I will check that (ubuntu recognizes from the box btw and it uses sky2 too)
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03:54<spar74n>mornin
03:55<acidShaka>morning
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03:56<spar74n>everybody sleepin here haha
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03:57<spar74n>whats the package for network bridging tools and stuff like that
03:58<acidShaka>bridge-utils
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04:39<morgan`>hello
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04:47<abeld>Hi! how can I create a diff between two directories that, when applied, will remove files as needed? I.e. now just running 'diff old new' , then applying the patch files which are not in 'new' are not deleted apparently. What am I doing wrong?
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04:49<aptituz>abeld: probably wrong order?
04:49<aptituz>hm.. oh
04:49<aptituz>I see you indicated your run ;)
04:50<abeld>The patch applies cleanly otherwise, its just that files that are only in 'old' are apparently ignored
04:50<aptituz>did you give it no parameters?
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04:52<abeld>no, what parameters should I use?
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04:53<aptituz>not sure. i usually use something like diff -Nur
04:53<abeld>Ok. I'll ty that
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05:30<spar74n>whats the benefit of manually created kernel?
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05:33<AberHatschi>moin
05:34<spar74n>moin
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05:38<AberHatschi>kann mir jemand erklären warum bei mir der cheatcode fromhd oder bootfrom mit dem fehler not mountable kommt obwohl er dannch das swap wasauch auf der Hd liegt einbindet ?
05:38<jm_>!de
05:38<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de)
05:39<AberHatschi>ok sorry
05:39<AberHatschi>thnks for help
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05:51<JAK>Hi friends, i am working in debian , i want to know , is there any backup software is available
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05:58<padski>JAK, debtags search admin::backup
05:58<padski>I hear tar is popular
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06:09<cwood>Hm. Am I the only one with both printconf and ghostscript held back? They've been this way for a while, not sure if it's me or they haven't had a conflict resolved yet.
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06:10<cwood>hm, n/m... odd things
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06:22<padski>!hi
06:22<dpkg>hello, padski
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06:51<blorb>hello
06:51<padski>!hi
06:51<dpkg>hello, padski
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06:53<blorb>i'm new here in the channel
06:53<blorb>and i'm new to bitchx
06:53<blorb>any good start tips?
06:53<padski>blorb, read the topic, read the faq
06:53<blorb>(i'm not new to debain :D )
06:54<themill>blorb: don't use bitchx.
06:54<themill>!bitchx
06:54<dpkg>it has been said that bitchx is a old and unmaintained irc-client build on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, "/ignore -regexp -pattern BX QUITS" Abandoned by its upstream authors, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373.
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06:55<blorb>so what should i use?
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06:55<blorb>or should i ask... what are you using?
06:56<petemc>irssi
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06:57<blorb>hmmm... i'm going to try the irssi
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06:59<blorb>hi
06:59<blorb>i'm back with irssi :)
06:59<blorb>thanks guys
06:59<blorb>well... thank you themill :P
06:59<themill>:)
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07:01<Tuplad>lol, what do you do when console doesnt start (in gnome)?
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07:02<petemc>Tuplad: gnome-terminal? did you try a second time? try another terminal emulator?
07:02<Tuplad>when I click on it, the name appears on the taskbar (loading) but doesnt actually start
07:02<petemc>rythmbox for me will never start the first time
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07:02<Tuplad>xterm starts but disappears immediatly
07:02<Tuplad>and when I go to the big screen console (ctrl+alt+f1) and I try to login I get an error:
07:03<Tuplad>inconsitency detected by ld.so:
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07:04<padski>Tuplad, ouch
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07:04<Tuplad>padski: yeah :/
07:04<blorb>sounds bad
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07:05<padski>Tuplad, rescue disk ?
07:05<blorb>can you get a console with runlevel 1?
07:05<blorb>in the grub add 1... can you login ?
07:05<Tuplad>the error goes like this inconsitency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 230: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
07:06<Tuplad>blorb what's runlevel 1 ?
07:06<jMCg>What does X' error log say?
07:06<jMCg>Ouch.
07:06<Tuplad>yeah my linux is really bad
07:06<blorb>it's a singel user mode (mayda like "safe mode")
07:06<Tuplad>when I had stuff like kernel panics, and all kinds of beeping and errors I thought: yeah it's my ram, so I used memtest, I let it run for 10 hours and it didnt detect anything
07:06<Tuplad>blorb: oh yes, I have single user mode
07:07<jMCg>Tuplad, noney, that's not bad, that's completely broken.
07:07<Tuplad>blorb: when I bootup I have linux, linux(single user) and memtest
07:07<blorb>and you can login and work the system?
07:07<Tuplad>blorb: yeah I can
07:07<Tuplad>usually everything works fine for a couple of hours
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07:07<jMCg>That's /lib/ld.so broken..
07:07<Tuplad>then my computer will beep, I'll get an error from some program, then it wont start, then another will crash, and so on and on till I restart
07:07<blorb>can you locate the file? (ld.so)
07:07<Tuplad>console wont start, I can browse files through nautilus though
07:08<Tuplad>I'm on debian lenny btw :}
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07:08<padski>Tuplad, overheating CPU perhaps ?
07:08<Tuplad>padski: that's what my dad thought
07:09<Tuplad>padski: because in the past the pasta got off under my processor
07:09<Tuplad>so he wants to put it back again
07:09<blorb>Tuplad: can you find the file at single user mode?
07:09<padski>pasta !?!?
07:09<Tuplad>cooling pasta :D
07:09<Tuplad>paste*
07:09<padski>lol
07:09<Tuplad>what I was thinking about was maybe it's my video card, because sometimes I get like, a program crash, my screen goes black, then it flashes, then back black, then flashes, black again, flashes and then I get a big blue screen with an X error
07:10<blorb>:D
07:10<Tuplad>blorb: I have to restart to get there right?
07:10<blorb>Tuplad: yeah
07:10<Tuplad>ok one minute :p
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07:10<blorb>O.o
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07:10<blorb>it's the same pc !?! :D
07:11<blorb>he's working on it.... it's just the console/bash/tcsh or something in that area
07:11<blorb>LOL... cooling pasta
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07:16<Tuplad>couldnt get into safe mode
07:16<Tuplad>so gonna do it here :D
07:16<blorb>are you on the system now??
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07:16<Tuplad>yes
07:16<blorb>so it's not cpu...
07:17<Tuplad>why
07:17<blorb>if the network and the irc works (harder then console) it's not cpu
07:17<Tuplad>http://pastebin.ca/947261
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07:18<Tuplad>blorb: I tried single user, but it didnt work, so I rebooted and everything works fine
07:18<Tuplad>it's normal though
07:18<Tuplad>everything ALWAYS works fine after a reboot :o
07:18<Tuplad>I thought: it's either my memory, my videocard or my swap
07:18<Tuplad>swap(=harddrive)
07:18<Tuplad>swap is on my hdd, so it might be my hdd
07:19<JAK>Hi friends, i am working in debian , i want to know , is there any backup software is available
07:19<blorb>but after reboot are you still getting the console problem with ld.so?
07:19<Tuplad>blorb: no
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07:19<padski>JAK, debtags search admin::backup
07:19<jm_>JAK: yes
07:19<Tuplad>blorb: I'll probably get some other one :D
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07:20<blorb>Tuplad: so every reboot something else is getting scrud?
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07:21<Tuplad>blorb: well yea, like everytime I work, I'll work for a hour or 2 and everything will be fine
07:21<Tuplad>then it'll start acting up
07:21<Tuplad>kernel panics, software shutting down, errors
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07:21<Tuplad>software not starting at all
07:21<Tuplad>computer beeping
07:21<Gathond>and the CPU is sufficiently cooled?
07:22<blorb>ok.... now it's sounds more like cpu worming up
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07:23<blorb>right after crashing... you can reboot to the bios and check the temperature
07:23<JAK><padski> : ok
07:24<Tuplad>:o
07:24<JAK>but i am searching the backup when system crashed
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07:24<Tuplad>but you see, it's not like a real crash, like that I cant do shit
07:24<Tuplad>I can still get into console and reboot it
07:25<Tuplad>and then I can work for another couple of hours
07:25<Tuplad>or is that normal ?
07:25<JAK>i want to take up the data before system crashed
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07:25<JAK><padski> but i am searching the backup when system crashed
07:25<Tuplad>Gathond blorb: my dad thought it was the cooling, I'll ask him to put some paste when he gets home on my cpu
07:25<JAK> i want to take up the data before system crashed
07:25<blorb>it's not normal... you should work as much as you want without rebooting
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07:26<Gathond>Tuplad: if it works correctly without cooling down it is probably not the cooling
07:26<blorb>you need heatsink... not just paste
07:26<Gathond>unless the problem it the software shutting down the CPU fan after a few hours
07:27<blorb>ohhh.... Gathond is right
07:27<padski>JAK, you already had a problem and you hope to recover some data, but you don't know how ? what data ?
07:27<Tuplad>blorb: I meant with "normal" that it's normal that if my cpu gets too hot that I get those crashes and if I reboot I can work for a while again
07:27<Tuplad>heatsink: a cooler ? like a propeller?
07:27<Tuplad>I have that
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07:28<Gathond>Tuplad: have you tried running memtest86 or similiar to verify the memory/CPU works as expected
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07:28<Tuplad>Gathond: I did, I let it run for like 10 hours
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07:29<padski>JAK, also
07:29<padski>!in
07:29<dpkg>in is, like, India, or #debianindia
07:29<JAK><padski> see i want to setup the backup server for entire n/w
07:31<padski>JAK, debtags search admin::backup
07:31<JAK><padski> for that i have an idea , making automative logs and screen shots before system hangs (taking particular time) in to the backup server
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07:32<JAK><padski> you got my point
07:32<blorb>screen shots?
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07:33<petemc>im guessing snapshots
07:33<acidShaka>someone good in postgres here?
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07:34<JAK> <padski> do u have an idea
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07:35<padski>JAK, ideas are always good, but this is primarily a help channel. try a discussion or development channel
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07:38<JAK> <padski> ok sorry i am searching the tool only
07:38<JAK> <padski> which suits my implementation
07:38<blorb>JAK: maybe setup rsync server and write a tar script
07:38<blorb>!rysnc
07:39<blorb>hmmm... anyway, rsync can backup the computers
07:39<petemc>there are lots of wrapper for rsync that make life much easier
07:39<petemc>i use dirvish, backuppc is also popular
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07:40<JAK> <padski> but i want to take each and every services in an intranet under debian
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07:40<themill>rsnapshot is excellent for backing up files on machines
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07:42<JAK> <padski> i saw Bacula , but it some what suits . do u know like bacula
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07:45<padski>JAK, I like tar
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07:47<JAK> <padski> ok
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07:50<JAK><blorb> i am going to install a large networks. i am taking crashed system logs and thier screen shots to centralised server for backup which helps to admin
07:51<blorb>i still don't get the screen shots thing
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07:51<blorb>what do you mean?
07:51<kapil>JAK: how do you plan to take a screen shot of a crashed system?
07:52<padski>kapil, use the camera in your phone ;-)
07:53<JAK>my s/w dept are doing this things now
07:54<blorb>and all the servers are gnu/linux based?
07:55<kapil>blorb: i take him to mean that they are currently managing this without the benefit of gnu/linux and he wants to migrate the system to debian.
07:55<JAK>yes
07:55<kapil>ok. so i was wrong ;-)
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07:56<blorb>well... i guess you can just build an NFS server and make a backup drive
07:57<blorb>so every "screen shot" (still don't know wtf) you take and data you want to save is on the backup server
07:57<blorb>:P
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07:57<blorb>just make a tar script and place is in the cron.daily
07:58<JAK><blorb> but it should notice the system adminstrator in his system
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07:59<padski>JAK, you don't make a lot of sense in english
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08:00<padski>JAK, you mean send him a notification ?
08:00<padski>notify ?
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08:01<blorb>JAK, i think you need something IT consulting... we can't help with with that.
08:01<blorb>we don't know what's going on there
08:01<blorb>or what you want to do...
08:02<JAK>sorry i am newly joined as a sys admin
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08:03<blorb>gz :)
08:03<JAK>so i want to create a n/w which has backup server and backup server collects all the logs and screen shots of crashed system
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08:04<petemc>JAK: basically you need to have all machines logging to a central server
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08:04<blorb>well... one thing is almost sure, you can't take a screenshot after the system crashed
08:04<JAK>ok
08:05<petemc>you've already been given some ideas of backup software, i suggest you look into rather than restating your question over and over again
08:05<blorb>setup the syslog to a centeral syslog server
08:05<JAK>ok is there any tool available for that
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08:06<petemc>JAK: syslog can be made to do remote logging, but thats obviously only good for apps that log to syslog
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08:08<JAK>yes i need every thing , not only application , ie) n/w too
08:08<petemc>asking how to backup the network makes no sense
08:09<blorb>JAK: you need some IT consulting to check the servers and the network
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08:09<blorb>yeah... you can't backup the network :\
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08:10<JAK>sorry i mean network related things , ie) hacking also
08:11<JAK>ok thank u for all giving me a advice
08:11<JAK>thank u once again
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08:13<themill>wtf?
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08:35<aluno>ola a todos
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08:44<mjk>Does anybody know why "wine" is constantly being tried to update to the latest version and never gets built completely (for amd64), instead of "holding" one version, building it (including amd64), and then, after having it moved to testing, trying to update to a newer version? See http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=wine
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08:49<themill>mjk: the maintainer is uploading new versions just show enough that snapshots can pick them up but fast enough so as to prevent migration to testing. Ask the maintainer if this is being done deliberately.
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08:51<Scurz>hi
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08:52<Scurz>Does someone know how to remove a mail address on a gpg key?
08:53<jm_>Scurz: yes
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08:54<Scurz>jm_: well, and how ? :)
08:55<jm_>Scurz: gpg --edit-key
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08:55<Scurz>yep, and ? With the "help" command, I don't find how to do after
08:56<jm_>man gpg lists the options
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08:56<mjk>themill: Thanks for the information, I'll ask him!
08:56<Scurz>okay, thanks
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09:01<Tuplad>hey guys
09:01<Tuplad>remember we talked about ld.so ?
09:01<Tuplad>blorb, Gathond ?
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09:01<Tuplad>I just stumped on an other ld.so error, this makes it more obvious
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09:02<Tuplad>my Opera crashed out of nowhere and now I'm getting a segment fault, this got my attention: http://rafb.net/p/q4hT9c14.html
09:03<Tuplad>(the weird signs are supposed to be Russian)
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09:03<Rhaven_>moin #debian
09:03<Gekz>MOIN
09:03<Gekz>someone, please explain moin
09:04<Gekz>is it a cheap colloquialism?
09:04<mikegrb>german greeting
09:04<mikegrb>kind of like 'howdy' or so
09:04<Gekz>ah
09:04<Gekz>cool
09:04<jm_>you're way off topic and you don't know how to use google
09:04<Gekz>:)
09:04<mjk>Gekz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin
09:04<Gekz>I prefer to hear things from teh sheeple!
09:05<Gekz>and how is human communication off toppic
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09:05<mjk>=)
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09:06<Gekz>mjk: thats quite interesting
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09:07<Tuplad>I saw a t-shirt in amsterdam last weekend: "Fuck Google, ask me!"
09:08<Gekz>lol
09:09<peyman>lol
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09:10<blorb>:D
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09:14<ooJerry>I want to set my kmldonkey to use UTF-8
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09:14<ooJerry>But I can't select the text encoding in the dropmenu.
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09:14<ooJerry>Who can help me
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09:14<luiz>hi
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09:15<ooJerry>and where i can find the setting guide
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09:17<ooJerry>is there anyone who can help me ?
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09:19<Dark_Shadow>hi
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09:19<ayanshola>hello all
09:20<Dark_Shadow>how are u ayanshola ?
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09:22<ayanshola>i had a problem on #debian-fr: an op kicked me because i was not happy because he spoke like a pedophil; he said it was for joking
09:22<ayanshola>i can not accept such things on a debian channel!
09:23<ayanshola>any hints? mailing lists or whatelses?
09:23<ayanshola>what else?
09:23<Wesleey>Hi. I have a problem with wo serves. when one of the servers is down the IP of one of the other server is unreachable
09:23<luiz>lol
09:23<Wesleey>I suggest a ip/mask conflict but im not sure what/where to look for
09:23<Wesleey>its setup is a bit strange
09:24<ayanshola>luiz: find that funny? not me!
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09:25<luiz>not really i laughed about the fact that he kicked u for that :P
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09:25<petemc>ayanshola: its irc, who cares?
09:26<Wesleey>oh wow my spelling is bad.
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09:26<ayanshola>petemc: debian reputation?
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09:28<amphi>ayanshola: I expect debian's reputation will survive
09:30<ayanshola>ok, nobody care about pedophil debian op doing propaganga on debian channels? that is a big _shame_ for me :(
09:30<petemc>what exactly did he/she say?
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09:31<ayanshola>petemc: 12:25 < jaroug> 13 ans 12:25 < jaroug> bah 12:25 < jaroug> c'est cool ca craque encore
09:31<petemc>i dont speak french
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09:33<ayanshola>petemc: 12:43 < jaroug> elle reve de rocco toute les nuits, apres avoir chopper la cassette que sons père a planqué sous le lit
09:33<ayanshola>are you all motherfuckers o what?! i rearly don't understand: no reaction at all :/
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09:33<ayanshola>pity world...
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09:34<luiz>yeah
09:34<luiz>cuz we dont understand french
09:34<luiz>XD
09:34<petemc>or arent prudes
09:35<petemc>prudes with too much time on their hands and sense of moral superiority
09:35<ayanshola>ok, enjoy
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09:36<ayanshola>i leave :)
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09:51<lollipop\munchkin>munchkins love debian!
09:52*lollipop\munchkin leaps into air and clicks heels
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09:53<knireme>soo why could a driver of network card load successfully (modprobe sky2) and then ifconfig doesn't see it? dmesg does not list any errors or messages .. btw it's Marvell Yukon 88E8039 PCI-E
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09:55<Pryon>ifup etho0?
09:55<Pryon>eth0, sorry
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09:56<knireme>device not found or something
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10:01<mysupper>hello
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10:04<mysupper>My dummy server has 866Mhz cpu and 512ram . I tuned apache and mysql a little bit and "ab -n 400 -c 400" shows "80% 21 90% 3234" Is this perfomance ordinary?
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10:06<hoopy>wow
10:06*hoopy is reading D300 review
10:06<hoopy>very impressiver
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10:19<Guto>i need pkg for connect me on vpn server
10:19<Guto>vpn-client for linux
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10:21<christophe>hello
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10:22<christophe>how find chat server linux with fr ?
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10:22<koollman>christophe: #debian-fr
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10:23<christophe>thx you koollman
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10:46<shamess>Hey. I'm accessing my server through putty. How would i go about making the end and home keys work?
10:47<shamess>I tried uncommenting the two lines in inputrc, and then sourceing it (that reloads it, right?) and I just get an error.
10:48<azeem_>shamess: it helps if you quote errors
10:48<azeem_>(not that I could help you, but maybe somebody else can=
10:48<mohammad99>hi every 1
10:48<shamess>Sorry, just getting them ^^
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10:48<shamess>"-bash: mode=emacs: command not found"
10:49<shamess>And then command not found for \e[1~: and \e[4~:
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10:50<petemc>they should just work
10:50<lockoff>Aloha guys
10:50<petemc>putty has settings for them, but the default should be ok
10:50<shamess>Now, they just output ~
10:50<shamess>*No
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10:51<shamess>They work in nano, but I haven't found anywhere else they do.
10:51<lockoff>Is it possile to port 2.4 drivers to 2.6?
10:51<petemc>anythings possible
10:51<lockoff>and is it hard??
10:51<petemc>hard is relative
10:52<petemc>linus or gkh might not find it too hard
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10:52<Mobil>to bash %)
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10:53<lockoff>time estimation for a wireless card driver?
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10:53<petemc>2 weeks and 4 hours 35 minutes
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10:55<lockoff>I mean is matter of hour or 10 or 100?
10:55<lockoff>or if you prefer 2^1, 2^2, 2^3 ?
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10:57<petemc>!+24*14+275
10:57<dpkg>611
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10:59<lockoff>you can just say that you have no idea or that my question doesnt make sense
10:59<themill>lockoff: http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/
10:59<petemc>id rather act the cunt
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11:00<greebov_stas>привет...кто может помоч в установке дебиан 4r0 на аппаратный raid контролер?
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11:01<Supaplex>!ru
11:01<dpkg>i heard ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
11:01<greebov_stas>ok/ thanks
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11:01<knireme_>pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS ... maybe thats why network card does not work? is it fixable?
11:01<Supaplex>greebov_stas: or ask in english, and we can help here. :)
11:02<Supaplex>!fix knireme_'s network card
11:02*dpkg takes knireme_'s network card to the vet for a "special" visit.
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11:03<greebov_stas>hi. who can help with install debian 4r0 on hardware raid controller?
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11:03<Supaplex>!tell greebov_stas -about i-g
11:03<Brudus>I'm trying to install nvidia drivers. It says I need the kernel source code. It says I need the package "kernel-source" or "kernel-devel" I don't see either of those packages anywhere in synaptic.
11:03<Supaplex>what controller is it? does d-i (debian-installer) recognize it?
11:04<knireme_>how do i get the network card out of notebook to take it to the vet?
11:04<greebov_stas>i read that. debian instal normal but grub not install in mbr
11:05<Supaplex>Brudus: is non-free in your sources.list? double check /msg dpkg nvidia too
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11:07<Brudus>I've done it before Supaplex but I'm drawing a blank. Where is the non-free repository.
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11:08<Supaplex>!tell Brudus -about sources.list
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11:14<noel>#ardour
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11:31<utenti>ciao
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11:31<utenti>ciao
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11:32<acidShaka>ciao
11:32<lockoff>ciao
11:32<utenti>chi sei
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11:33<acidShaka>:| un utente
11:33<themill>!it
11:33<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, prova il canale #debian-it, oppure #linux-it.
11:33<acidShaka>hai salutato, ho salutato :D
11:34<azeem>acidShaka, utenti: please write in english
11:34<utenti>no meglio in italiano
11:34<utenti>ho salutato
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11:34<azeem>utenti: please write in english
11:34<lockoff>how do you know hes italian when hes using london server
11:34<utenti>please in italiano
11:34<azeem>lockoff: because he writes in italian
11:35<Mobil>)))
11:35<utenti>i'm italian
11:35<acidShaka>ok azeem, sorry
11:35<azeem>utenti: #debian-it
11:35<utenti>di dove siete
11:36<utenti>acid
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11:40<Brudus>When is Gnome 2.2 going to be available from debian.
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11:41<themill>http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/status.html
11:42<themill>dpkg: gnome status is shown by the Debian GNOME packaging team at http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/status.html
11:42<dpkg>okay, themill
11:42<themill>dpkg: gnome is also ask me about <gnome status>
11:42<dpkg>okay, themill
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11:43<padski>so 2.2 was a long time ago then ? ;-)
11:44<themill>Brudus: I think you mean 2.22
11:44<Brudus>yeah
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11:49<cmot>Yodel!
11:49<cmot>Is there a packaged perl module that handles POSIX ACLs?
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11:49<cmot>system(getfacl) is not too beautiful...
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11:54<zhengyi>cmot: http://www.google.com/search?q=perl+posix+acl and http://search.cpan.org/search?m=all&q=acl don't seem to turn up anything too immediately useful
11:55<cmot>zhengyi, thanks, that's how far I got ...
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11:55<cmot>zhengyi, there's a POSIX-ACL written in about 2002, not sure if it's still maintained, and it doesn't seem to be packaged :-(
11:55<zhengyi>cmot: yeah, if cpan doesn't have it, you're probably pretty screwed
11:55<cmot>(time to create that package, probably. With luck I can even bill part of it to some customer.)
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11:56<zhengyi>cmot: although, if you were to get really motivated and pump out some new module, there'd probably be some excited people out there waiting to thank you :
11:56<zhengyi>;)
11:56*cmot just mistyped cpan's web address. I typed cpan.borg
11:56<m0RrE>have you ppl tried the app gnome-do?
11:56<zhengyi>excellent, *and* appropos
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11:56<cmot>m0RrE, I trust this isn't supposed to address my problem? :-/
11:57<m0RrE>nah :)
11:57<cmot>:-)
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11:58<cmot>Oh well...
11:59*cmot goes to catch that bus.
11:59<cmot>bye all
11:59<zhengyi>l8
12:02<knireme_>are there netinst with newest kernel? ubuntu uses newer kernel and doesn't have problem with this darn net card :/
12:02<themill_>!kmuto
12:02<dpkg>For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
12:02<themill_>or look at the lenny d-i beta that was just released
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12:03<knireme_>thanks i'll try those
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12:11<vook>knireme_: what kind of net card do you have?
12:11<lockoff>orinoco
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12:12<vook>knireme_: all you have to do is copy the firmware to /lib/firmware after the netinst loads (it's non-free). (Ubuntu includes non-free drivers in their installer)
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12:15<vook>yeah -it's not a kernel issue (before you invest the time). bcm43xx is in the etch netinst.
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12:16<vook>ah, orinoco - oops, that's hermes
12:16<vook>still - it should be in etch netinst...
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12:17<knireme_>the card is Marvell Yukon 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller according to vista
12:17<knireme_>I do modprobe sky2, no error in dmesg, but eth0 does not appear
12:18<petemc> ifconfig -a
12:18<knireme_>yeah this does not show it too
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12:18<sasha>hi , i m in debian testing (in preference file), but i installed some package from unstable , or can i see all the list of packahe installed from unstable ?
12:18<knireme_>there are few pci-e errors in dmesg though
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12:28<the-dude1>dmesg|grep eth
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12:32<omar>Hello everyone
12:33<omar>can anyone help me? Im trying to install linux mint to boot from a flash drive
12:33<Nemoder>!mint
12:33<dpkg>from memory, linux mint is a distribution based on Ubuntu. It is not Debian and we're unable to assist. Go /join #linuxmint.com @ irc.spotchat.org. See <Based on Debian>. http://www.linuxmint.com, or http://linuxmint.com/forum
12:33<engywuck_>you mean grub?
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12:34<Flavio>ola
12:34<omar>oh ok. Thank you for your time
12:34<lockoff>!es
12:34<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:38<spar74n>anybody home?
12:38<spar74n>jm_ u there?
12:38<padski>!ask
12:38<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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12:38<spar74n>haha hey padski
12:38<engywuck_>damn padski, you were faster... ;-)
12:39<spar74n>i am trying to make a custom kernel
12:39<spar74n>is it better if i use make install or kpkg method?
12:39<padski>spar74n, I count ~343 people you asked "anybody home?"
12:39<padski>!kernel
12:39<dpkg>Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.24.3, prepatch: 2.6.25-rc6, snapshot: 2.6.25-rc6-git1, 2.4: 2.4.36.2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.25-rc5-mm1
12:39<spar74n>padski haha
12:39<padski>!kpkg
12:39<dpkg>well, kpkg is a KDE package manager designed for handling RPM files, but can also somewhat handle debs. If you're looking for kernel-package ask me about that instead
12:39<padski>!kernel-package
12:39<dpkg>To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>
12:40<lockoff>padski, you have a counter?
12:40<padski>lockoff, huh ?
12:40<spar74n>!make-kpkg
12:40<dpkg>methinks make-kpkg is the tool that you use for compiling the kernel the Debian Way (tm). It makes a package for your custom kernel which you can install and remove easily using dpkg. See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html, man make-kpkg and ask me about <kernel compile> <kp mantra> <kernel build-deps>.
12:40<lockoff>"I count ~343"
12:40<padski>lockoff, ah! just the number xchat says.
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12:40<spar74n>padski i got vanilla kernel from kernel.org
12:41<spar74n>made config file and make clean then make modules
12:41<padski>spar74n, you ask me it is horses for courses
12:41<spar74n>padski horses for courses?
12:41<spar74n>lol
12:42<spar74n>its better if i do my own kernel cuz i have laptop here so i can enable shtload of acpi and powersave functions and disable lot of hardware drivers
12:43<sasha>hi , i m in debian testing (in preference file), but i installed some package from unstable , or can i see all the list of packahe installed from unstable ?
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12:43<spar74n>is make-kpkg better or manual install?
12:44<padski>sasha, I don't think there is a clear distinction. a 'sucessful' unstable package will go into testing
12:44<cahoot>kpkg makes for easier handling in the long run
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12:45<padski>sasha, perhaps look in /var/log/dpkg.log
12:45<spar74n>cahoot why is that?
12:45<cahoot>it make a deb for instance
12:45<cahoot>makes
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12:46<padski>is a deb really that big an advantage for the linux image in debian ?
12:46<cahoot>hence simplifies removal
12:46<spar74n>yes but i can easly remove modules and images from dirs anyway
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12:46<spar74n>ye but theres a problemo grub is not on the debian partition
12:46<sasha>padski : ?? i mean do you know the command line to list all the [ackage from un stable repo ?
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12:46<spar74n>i was just wondering is there any other difference except that?
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12:47<padski>sasha, whether you have them installed or not ?
12:47<spar74n>one more thing what about 2.6.9 kernels ?
12:47<sasha>no , only those installed
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12:48<padski>sasha, you want to know if they were installed from unstable, or you want to know if they are still not in testing ?
12:48<sasha>cause yesterday i installed some package from unstable to try something and know i have segfault in gdm when i quit
12:48<cahoot>spar74n: sounds a bit oldish
12:48<spar74n>or 2.6.8
12:48<padski>sasha, look at dpkg.log
12:48<sasha>padski , i want to list all the package installed from unstable
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12:48<engywuck_>well, unstable = breaks are to be expected
12:49<padski>sasha, go look
12:49<spar74n>engywuck_ i had no breaks so far :)
12:50<sasha>padski , not the easiest way i think but will help , thanks a lot
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12:50<spar74n>at least not for home usage i supose servers cant rely on that lol
12:51<padski>sasha, sorry, I can't think of easier one. I would be glad to hear one, I occassionally want to do the same thing.
12:51<spar74n>so it actually creates vmlinuz and initrd.gz right?
12:51<sasha>will report of course if i can find
12:51<padski>sasha, thanks
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12:54<spar74n>ok brb kernel done gonna test lol
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12:55<lockoff>is there a special channel for driver problems?
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12:56<padski>lockoff, if you can't get help here then you might go upstream
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12:56<chealer>padski: what do you mean by "is a deb really that big an advantage for the linux image in debian ?"?
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13:00<lockoff>I need to port HermesAP driver from 2.4 to 2.6. I have no experience with making drivers so I dont want to try to work on it for weeks if someone who knows the way can do it in few minutes
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13:02<padski>chealer, I mean to elicit the case for.
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13:02<padski>chealer, so far we have "makes it easy to remove" ...
13:03<spar74n>im back
13:03<spar74n>its done lol
13:03<spar74n>thx a lot guys
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13:04<spar74n>can somebody plz explain what is difference between 2.6.24.3 and for exqample 2.6.9 kernel versions?
13:04<spar74n>im sorry if i am pushy
13:04<padski>spar74n, see changelogs at kernel.org
13:04<spar74n>k
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13:05<lockoff>I need to port HermesAP driver from 2.4 to 2.6. I have no experience with making drivers so I dont want to try to work on it for weeks if someone who knows the way can do it in few minutes
13:05<spar74n>i plugged in sd card its recognized dont know how to mount it
13:05<padski>spar74n, man mount
13:06<cahoot>lockoff: you know for a fact there is no such driver for 2.6.*?
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13:06<lockoff>yes, I am very shure
13:07<sasha>padski : that command can help : apt-show-versions | grep /unstable
13:07<spar74n>padksi i know but i dont know what /dev it is
13:08<spar74n>padski i know but i dont know what /dev it is
13:08<padski>sasha, thanks, that is very handy. I will take a look :-)
13:08<spar74n>padski maybe sg or shm....
13:09<padski>spar74n, or sd?
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13:09<spar74n>i dont see sd in /dev
13:09<spar74n>fd maybe?
13:10<padski>spar74n, in syslog ? or /proc/partitions perhaps
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13:12<zarathustra>hello, when live-magic finishes to build an image, where is it saved ?
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13:15<padski>lockoff, looks kinda abandonned
13:16<lockoff>yeah but I know it would be usefull
13:16<hoopy>so when you do an apt-get dist-upgrade you have to manual restart the machine?
13:16<padski>lockoff, new hardware would probably be cheaper
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13:17<est>ïðèâåò. ìîæíî çàïóñòèòü etch4.0 ñ îçó 16ì
13:18<est>?
13:18<padski>!ru
13:18<dpkg>ru is probably Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
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13:23<spar74n>im back
13:23<spar74n>padski proc/partitions
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13:23<lockoff>pad: but ORiNOCO is too popular to abandon project like that. Is it really that hard?
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13:24<spar74n>padski i can see nothing is there a command so i can list somehow devices that are connected
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13:25<padski>lockoff, isn't orinoco in the mainline ?
13:26<padski>spar74n, lsusb
13:26<padski>lockoff, and there is a hermes.c in there
13:26<lockoff>but this is a patch kinda that would enable it to run in AP mode
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13:27<padski>lockoff, and it never got ported to 2.6 ?
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13:29<padski>lockoff, ah! doesn't look easy. uses devfs.
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13:29<lockoff>only HostAp got ported which is for differrent chipsets
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13:30<padski>lockoff, but you could look at what they did
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13:30<rjent>greetings, could anyone help me with a xdmcp issue with kdm, namely the lenny system shows in the chooser but I can not connect?
13:31<lordcia1>hello! Can someone direct me towards a solution for: lenny running on a raid controller adaptec 3405 - throughput to stripes is oddly low - adaptec suggest compiling new driver..... dmesg shows Adaptec aacraid driver (1.1-5[2437]-mh4), current driver from adaptec is aacraid-1.1.5.2451. I have source for module, but no configure exists. what do I do from here?? please?
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13:32<padski>lordcia1, compiles out of tree ?
13:32<lordcia1>sorry, i'm a twit...I don't understand your question.
13:33<lordcia1>make returns: make: *** No targets. Stop.
13:33<padski>lordcia1, some drivers needs to be built as part of a whole make zimage (or whatever), others will compile 'out of tree'
13:34<padski>lordcia1, you may need to install some headers, I would suggest you try m-a prepare
13:34<lordcia1>so, i download kernel sources/headers, find aacraid folder, replace contents with downloaded .c, and compile whole kernel?
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13:34<lordcia1>m-a prepare?
13:34<padski>!m-a
13:34<dpkg>it has been said that module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install .deb packages with them, or aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && m-a prepare
13:35<lockoff>pad: so you think I should compare HostAP for 2.4 and 2.6 and apply thtoses changes to HermesAP ?
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13:35<lordcia1>from the adaptec sources folder?
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13:35<padski>lordcia1, quite a few kernel modules are packaged to be compiled in this way. you may not want/need to package yours this way, although there might be advantages.
13:36<padski>lordcia1, for that matter it might already be packaged.
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13:36<lordcia1>I check debian packages for aacraid...
13:36<lordcia1>no returns
13:38<padski>lockoff, if it were me I would look at it.
13:38<chealer>padski: what do you mean by "that big"?
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13:38<Guto>boa tarde
13:38<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read onlt to read and write I can,t delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
13:38<Guto>tenho problema com pptp
13:38<Guto>conecto na rede mas nao consigo trafegar
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13:38<Guto>alguem ja passou por isso?
13:39<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read onlt to read and write I can,t delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
13:39<padski>chealer, what do you mean by "what do you mean" ?
13:39<noflash>!br
13:39<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
13:39<lockoff>ok, thanx, ill try to stare at it until i get hypnotized
13:40<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read onlt to read and write I can,t delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
13:40<lordcia1>stand, don't mount through gui - in a terminal remount /dev/sd? to /media/disk-1
13:40<lordcia1>manual mounts are rw
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13:41<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read onlt to read and write I can't delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
13:41<cahoot>what's psp?
13:41<padski>lordcia1, ? is a wildcard
13:41<stond>Playstation portable
13:42<cahoot>whats filesystem?
13:42<cahoot>whats filesystem?
13:42<cahoot>err
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13:42<lockoff>try visiting wikipedia
13:42<stond>cahootwhat do you mean file system
13:42<cahoot>thanks
13:43<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read onlt to read and write I can't delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
13:43<cahoot>stond: yes - what fs does the psp use?
13:43<stond>FAT16 i think is that what you mean
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13:43<cahoot>stond: ok try /msg dpkg vfatrw
13:44<stond>will you still be here in case that does not work
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13:45<cahoot>no I plan to watch hockey
13:45<stond>ok thatnk anyway
13:45<lordcia1>padski, sorry to bug: m-a ls or m-a la with grep aac doesn't list any modules similar to aacraid, am I missing something?
13:45<luiz>lol
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13:46<padski>lordcia1, no. sounds like it isn't packaged. the original suggestino was that m-a prepare *might* install stuff you need to do your compile, but what was that make error message ?
13:47<nael23>Does anyone know where I can find help For Damn Small Linux?
13:47<padski>!dsl
13:47<dpkg>it has been said that dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/, or for Damn Small Linux related questions, see #damnsmalllinux @ irc.freenode.net (ask me about <based on debian>)
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13:48<yago>does anyone use Ada with debian?
13:48<lordcia1>well, there is no configure.pl, there is a Makefile, but running make returns: make: *** No targets. Stop. which has now exceed my experience with compiling... :)
13:48<lockoff>Jost for you, so you can have a laugh "Windows was unable to save data for the file \Device\Harddisk1\DP(1)0-0+e\autorun.inf. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or a network connection. Please try to save this file elswhere."
13:49<padski>tell yago about popcon
13:49<padski>!tell yago about popcon
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13:50<padski>lordcia1, and did the doco say how to build it ?
13:50<lordcia1>NOPE.
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13:51<engywuck_>i treid to mount an smbfs share privately (as user), using smbmount //smaon/E$ ./smb -o username=engywuck,password=...,port=139" but i get
13:51<engywuck_>cannot mount on /home/engywuck/smb: Operation not permitted
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13:51<engywuck_>can I avoid having to mount it as root?
13:51<Nemoder>engywuck_: you may want to look into smbnetfs
13:52<engywuck_>where do i get that?
13:53<Nemoder>ahh it may not be in etch sorry
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13:53<engywuck_>ok
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13:54<engywuck_>i see a fusesmb package in etch
13:54<lordcia1>how can I tell which version of the code is in the sid kernel, or would it be the same as lenny? though I'm leery of running sid on a production nas.
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13:55<spar74n>anybody knows how do i acess sd card?
13:55<padski>lordcia1, what is the url for the download
13:55<Nemoder>yea smbnetfs is in lenny, it requires libc6 2.7
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13:55<engywuck_>ok, so no (easy) backporting
13:56<lordcia1>http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/linux_source/linux_source_code?productId=SAS-3405&dn=Adaptec+RAID+3405 :NOTE: the source is in an rpm inside the tgz...so i had to alien to .deb and dpkg...but it only installs source in /usr/src/aa.....
13:56<Nemoder>I think the only way to mount as a user in etch is to set it up in your /etc/fstab
13:56<spar74n>Nemoder ok but i dont know what /dev it is
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13:57<Nemoder>spar74n: sorry, I was replying to engywuck
13:57<spar74n>Nemoder sorry lol
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13:57<engywuck_>ok, then i'll have to add some uid etc clauses
13:57<engywuck_>damn
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13:58<Nemoder>spar74n: usually it's something like /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
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13:58<spar74n>yes i know
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13:59<Schreck>Hi guys
13:59<Schreck>I've set up a bind server...
13:59<padski>lordcia1, perhaps paste the makefile, I have to run.
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14:00<Schreck>I don't know why but my /etc/resolv.conf gets changed...
14:00<Schreck>I change it to the right server...
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14:00<Schreck>And after that, I don't know what happends but it get changed
14:01<chealer>spar74n: yes
14:01<craigevil>dhcp clitn tends to ovrride resolv.conf you need to add the nameserver to your dhcpclient.conf or dhcp3.conf
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14:01<Schreck>Okay craigevil thanks
14:02<lordcia1>http://pastebin.com/m33f010ca
14:02<spar74n>chealer i cant find it in /dev
14:04<spar74n>i found it it was mmcblk0p1 lol
14:06<spar74n>lol
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14:07<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read only to read and write I can't delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
14:08<spar74n>stond u are root?
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14:09<spar74n>stond just mount it rw
14:10<cahoot>did you try the info dpkg gave you?
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14:11<stond>cahoot yes and it did not work
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14:11<stond>spar74nhow do I mount it rw
14:11<stond>spar74n how do I mount it rw
14:11<mrpouet>hi
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14:12<spar74n>mount /dev/something /media/somewhere rw
14:12<spar74n>or in fstab specify rw
14:12<cahoot>*if* it is fat16 that won't help
14:12<spar74n>fat16?
14:12<philipp>was is the program gasp doing?
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14:14<spar74n>can i add lenny and sid in sources list i mean both of them?
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14:15<spar74n>if so how does apt-get determine wich one it uses?
14:15<sysop>are there any sd card tools for debian ?
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14:15<ServerSide>what's the newest nvidia driver?
14:16<MadeOfWin>on their server
14:16<MadeOfWin>get it
14:16<MadeOfWin>use it
14:16<MadeOfWin>feel it
14:16<MadeOfWin>unzip
14:16<MadeOfWin>mmm
14:16<MadeOfWin>talk slow
14:16<MadeOfWin>yeah little faster
14:16<chealer>ServerSide: ask NVIDIA
14:16<MadeOfWin>mmm yeah
14:16<MadeOfWin>don't stop
14:17-!-mode/#debian [+q madeofwin!*@*] by cdlu
14:17<chealer>spar74n: yes
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14:17<chealer>spar74n: it uses the first one providing the requested package version
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14:18<spar74n>u mean the first one in the row i specified like i specified lenny then experimental it uses lenny first right?
14:19<philipp>was is the program gasp doing?
14:19<Nemoder>spar74n: you might want to google about "apt pinning"
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14:19<spar74n>k
14:19<chealer>spar74n: yes
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14:19<Supaplex>haha what a tewl
14:20*Supaplex ^5's cdlu
14:20*Maulkin sighs
14:20<fxiny>hmmm
14:20<fxiny>:)
14:21<chealer>sysop: what kind of tools&
14:21<chealer>?
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14:21<Supaplex>chealer: madeofwin :) that kind of tool. (the kookoo kind)
14:22<philipp>was is the program gasp doing?
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14:22<bahamat>is there someone I should contact if a debian maintainer is MIA?
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14:24<engywuck_>i'm now trying fusesmb
14:24<sysop>chealer, tools to recover a sd card
14:24<engywuck_>mounts perfectly, when the user is in group fuse
14:24<sysop>I have one that got messed up and nothing can read it now. not windows not linux.
14:25<Maulkin>bahamat: what maintainer?
14:25<sysop>it sees it but says it size is zero bytes
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14:25<engywuck_>all set in ~/.smb/fusesmb.conf
14:25<bahamat>Maulkin: Adrian Bridgett, he has bugs untouched for 2 years, and his mail account is locked
14:25<engywuck_>ah, NOW works
14:25<engywuck_>strange....
14:26<engywuck_>didn't work a minute ago
14:26<engywuck_>well, no prob then
14:26<chealer>sysop: I don't think there are issues messing up SD cards specifically.
14:26<sysop>no linux didnt mess it up, just want to fix it.
14:26<chealer>bahamat: see http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-mia-qa
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14:27<Maulkin>bahamat: known about.
14:27<Maulkin>They're in the MIA database
14:27<sysop>some crappy phone messed it up and its a 4gig card so I dont want to throw it away unless I absolutely have to.
14:27<chealer>sysop: I didn't mean Linux issues, issues in general.
14:28<stond>can some one tell me what to type in terminal to change /media/disk-1 from read only to read and write I can't delete, create, or move folders and files from my PSP
14:28<chealer>sysop: well, maybe ask the manufacturer if you think the phone has a software bug
14:28<engywuck_><Nemoder> I think the only way to mount as a user in etch is to set it up in your /etc/fstab <--- nope, fusesmb works, too ;-)
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14:29<Nemoder>oh cool
14:29<fxiny>smbc should work as well
14:29<engywuck_>stond: mount -o remount,rw /media/disk-1?
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14:30<engywuck_>yep, but i didn't want to use a norton commander clone but do simply access all files
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14:30<Nemoder>engywuck_: smbnetfs in lenny is very nice though, it creates a single folder that lists all workgroups and shares so you don't have to manually mount individual shares
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14:31<engywuck_>same for fusesmb
14:31<tq|Memphis>hi
14:31<engywuck_>you only have to give usernames/passwords for the server and/or shares in the conf
14:31<Nemoder>ah cool then, wasn't sure how well that one worked in etch
14:31<Supaplex>sup tq|Memphis
14:31<fxiny>what about linneighborhood ?
14:31<fxiny>or kde konwueror
14:32<fxiny>tq ?
14:32<engywuck_>i just watch a file via mplayer and fusesmb
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14:32<engywuck_>hmmm, not tried
14:32<fxiny>tq|Memphis: you !
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14:32<engywuck_>but I loathe graphical utilities for such simple tasks ^^
14:32<tq|Memphis>:)
14:32<fxiny>Supaplex: you have eagle eyes
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14:32<tq|Memphis>i'm searching a program slaytware or something like that
14:33<engywuck_>nemoder: i have an etch with bpo parts, so....
14:33<tq|Memphis>network program
14:33<tq|Memphis>but i dont remember the name now t.t
14:33<fxiny>engywuck_: smbc has served me well back in the fishing age ;)
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14:33<bahamat>Maulkin, chealer: so, I'm pretty much screwed then, right?
14:33<tq|Memphis><fxiny> what about linneighborhood ?
14:33<tq|Memphis> or kde konwueror
14:33<tq|Memphis> tq ?
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14:34<tq|Memphis>:/ what does it mean?
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14:34<tq|Memphis>i'm using gnome
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14:34<fxiny>tq|Memphis: i don't use it , i was just thinking about smbmount as user
14:34<engywuck_>the last time I've gone fishing via smb I used smbclient -NL to find worthy shares ^^
14:34<chealer>bahamat: hum, why? I may have missed your actual problem.
14:34<tq|Memphis>erm
14:34<engywuck_>but that's 7 years ago or sth like that ^^
14:34<Nemoder>if you fuse to create a folder then you can use any file manager to browse it, much better than relying on a specific gui for browsing shares
14:35<bahamat>chealer: I'm having a problem with dante-server using pam for authentication
14:35<fxiny>engywuck_: snip.sh ;)
14:35<engywuck_>snip.sh?
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14:35<bahamat>chealer: when the system boots dante doesn't use pam at all (even pam_permit fails), once I log in and restart danted then it works fine
14:35<chealer>bahamat: I don't know dante-server.
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14:35<bahamat>chealer: as near as I can tell it has to do with wether I'm actually logged in or not
14:35<fxiny>yes : it uses ntbscan + smbclient
14:36<bahamat>chealer: few people do
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14:36<chealer>bahamat: then ask the channel or the mailing list
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14:38<engywuck_>i only know about the TeX-Dante
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14:40<tq|Memphis>fxiny
14:41<fxiny>yes ?
14:41<tq|Memphis>putty is generally uses @ linux righT?
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14:41<fxiny>just windoze side
14:42<tq|Memphis>erm..
14:42<tq|Memphis>do you use?
14:43<fxiny>tq|Memphis: i don't , get winscp , which uses putty
14:43<tq|Memphis>hmm i should search some informations for them
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14:46<tq|Memphis>SOCKSWARE?
14:47<tq|Memphis>it can be the name ^^
14:47<azeem>tq|Memphis: no caps
14:47<tq|Memphis>sory bot
14:47<azeem>tq|Memphis: /msg dpkg search
14:49<blorb> /msg dpkg search
14:49<blorb>it's not a bot
14:49<blorb>O.o
14:49-!-fresch [~fresch@f051064207.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
14:49<blorb>i mean he's not a bot
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14:49<blorb>:P
14:49<Maulkin>What?
14:49-!-Torsten_W [~torsten@p54B642A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
14:49<blorb>i dont' think azeem is a bot :P
14:50<tq|Memphis>yes he isnt
14:50<tq|Memphis>but he has some automsges :/
14:50<tq|Memphis>LOOKS
14:50<tq|Memphis>ups it didnt work :p
14:51*fxiny powers up the latest version of his wow signal power array detector
14:52*Supaplex tosses fxiny a spare power cells for the job
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14:52<fxiny>!beer Supaplex
14:52*dpkg pulls out a fine Spaten Pils for Supaplex
14:54<azeem>tq|Memphis: I said no caps
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14:57*Supaplex tosses another bugreport at bts
14:57<fxiny>which one ?
14:58<tq|Memphis>sorry azeem :(
14:58<fxiny>you'll certainly get a free ticket for the bugsquash party
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14:58<Supaplex>fxiny: openbox
14:59<Supaplex>now I have a nostrip version I built installed
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15:04<fxiny>Supaplex: i'm playing with incron + perl Net::POP3 : osd_cat writes subjects line on screen ;)
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15:05<fxiny>found incron reading debian-administration : very useful
15:06<fxiny>we , fluxbox addicts , hate popup windows :P
15:06<Supaplex>fxiny: http://bugs.debian.org/471529
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15:07<fxiny>Supaplex: reading it in a sec
15:07<Supaplex>well, I forgot to include the ff-bin backtraces. oops
15:07<m0RrE>hmh, this is pretty annoying.. when i boot i get this message: "waiting for /dev to be fully populated".. this "thing" takes a long time and then the computer boots up normally, but i haven't seen it before.. any ideas?
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15:10<m0RrE>the process is possibly about 30s
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15:12<fxiny>Supaplex: i'm trying to see why (sometimes) emacs freezes on fluxbox , when clicking on its window before it fully loads my (quite heavy) ~/.emacs . still no luck
15:12<fxiny>but it does many times
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15:13<fxiny>a week :)
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15:18<Supaplex>fxiny: well duh, it's not vim </flamebait> hehehe
15:18*Supaplex adds http://bugs.debian.org/471532 to his list too
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15:19<Supaplex>it sure is awry typing reportbug reportbug :D
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15:22<fxiny>Supaplex: yeahhh : not loosing my religion on a thing like vim </R.E.M.bait>
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15:23<Supaplex>hehe
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15:27<fxiny>hahahah : your bugreport shows : ** Environment settings: EDITOR="vim" . heheheh
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15:29<Supaplex>fxiny: I think update-alternatives uses vim.basic for the editor anyhow.
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15:30<fxiny>Supaplex: yes , i like vim , i use it : just joking
15:31<Schreck>Yops
15:31<Schreck>Do you know the way so that dhclient doesn't start at boot ?
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15:33<fxiny>Schreck: man update-rc.d ?
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15:33<Schreck>Okay I'll have a look. Thanks fxiny
15:33<Schreck>:)
15:34<fxiny>Schreck: np
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15:35<nick>wat
15:35<nick>wat's up everyone
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15:38<lucifer_>..
15:38*fxiny puts his shades on
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15:39<gizzmo_>hello
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15:41<gizzmo_>hi
15:41<gizzmo_>anyone from Puerto Rico?
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16:01<chuy_max>hi, I'm using a motorola v3i phone and have this j2me app to record sound, does anyone know how to transfer the app to my phone in debian?
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16:04<Ouroboros>how can i determine why a partition is being detected as write-protected?
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16:05<cahoot>nothing informative in dmesg?
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16:05<Ouroboros>not really... it is a loop-aes partition that i have mounted ro, but remount,rw fails
16:05<Ouroboros>it used to work, today it does not :)
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16:06<Ouroboros>this is all on a USB stick btw, but the stick doesnt have a write-protect feature
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16:10<Ouroboros>i wonder if it is because i disabled the fsck at startup
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16:59<Ouroboros>figured out my remount problem if anyone cares
16:59<Ouroboros>apparently losetup will make the partition hard read-only if the first mount is ro... in other words it is not possible to remount,rw if the first mount was ro
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18:15<Xenguy>ace2001ac: libstring-mkpasswd-perl ?
18:15<Xenguy>ww
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18:22<javo>hi, im using debian lenny. Is there any problem if i install amule from experimental trunk ?
18:23<javo>I saw http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/amule.html and it seems not to be problems
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18:28<dpalacio>javo: no problems with it atm
18:29<noli>/j #binario
18:29<noli>ops i am sorry
18:29<noli>anyhow
18:29<noli>does anybody know binario ?
18:29<javo>dpalacio: aptitude install amule -t experimental ??
18:30<dpalacio>javo: yes
18:30<javo>is that correct ?
18:30<javo>:D
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18:31<noli>anybody can help me ?
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18:40<javo>dpalacio: sorry but aptitude install -t experimental amule its installing me amule from testing. Does i have to add experimental repositories to source.list?
18:41<dpalacio>of course :)
18:41<javo>"Does i " jeje im so stupid
18:41<javo>thanks!
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19:03<J0N47H45>hi
19:04<kler>is xubuntu like ubuntu in xfce?
19:04<mikes>hi! does anyone have a tvtuner based on saa7134 chipset?
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19:08<abrotman>kler: ask #xubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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19:11<javo>dpalacio: i am not able to install packages outside testing :( I added the experimental repositories.. but nothing happens
19:12<javo>the same happens if i use any unofficial repository such as deb http://www.vollstreckernet.de/debian/ testing amule
19:12<javo>seems like my system does not recognize this
19:13<javo>and i dont know why
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19:14<dpalacio>javo: did you apt-get update? did the update operation abort? is there an error message?
19:14<javo>i didnt do it
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19:17<javo>hehe im still a newbie... i was using "ftp://xy.debian.org.... without replacing xy for a country code
19:18<javo>thanks a lot dpalacio! you helped me a lot
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19:19<dpalacio>javo: de nada
19:19<javo>the warning info is very fun
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19:22<engywuck_>i am writing udev rules for my external hdds
19:22<gsimmons>!tell mikes -about saa7314
19:22<gsimmons>!tell mikes -about saa7134
19:22<engywuck_>i want a different /dev/usbhd/NAME for every one of them...
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19:22<somae7>the update manager announced an update for icedove yesterday - after updating I can no longer send email . I get an error message: "fron: address not verified"
19:23<engywuck_>but unfortunately I have twice the same HDD in two different enclosures -- and want to be able o differentiate between them
19:23<somae7>I can still send from evolution with no problems
19:23<engywuck_>any ideas, including how to create a new NAME for every partition on them?
19:23<Supaplex>engywuck_: do the filesystems have uuids?
19:24<Supaplex>engywuck_: what filesystems are they?
19:24<engywuck_>is udev able to read THEM?
19:24<Supaplex>ext? xfs?
19:24<engywuck_>ext3 and vfat
19:24<engywuck_>buth times a small vfat in partition 1 and a large ext3 in partition 2
19:24<Supaplex>tune2fs can set the disk label. or you can use the uuid. vfat I don't know so much
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19:25<engywuck_>fat has some UD, I know
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19:26<engywuck_>but how can i access these in a udev rule?
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19:26<Supaplex>I'd have to look into it. I don't know
19:27<engywuck_>http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html has been my source before
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19:31<Supaplex>have you looked at the man pages from apropos udev?
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19:36*Supaplex chows down on $dinner
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19:39<engywuck_>got it
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19:39<engywuck_>i have to run an external program then using the ENV variables
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19:44<qq_>hello noli , what's the pb ?
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19:45<noli>who is the inventor of the open source ?
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19:46<engywuck_>!ESR
19:46<dpkg>methinks esr is a very clever Linux d00d with lots of very interesting philosophical and political texts. a guy who has some ideas about guns and who can't figure out CUPS. The geezer who wrote Cathedral and Bazaar.. Eric S. Raymond, or somebody whose sgeigerbot's computer thinks about when it boots: "ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000", or http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond
19:46<engywuck_>interesting, dpkg even knows acronyms of persons :)
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19:48<whitehat>hello,big prob debian won't reconzie my wifi
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19:49<engywuck_>!tell noli about RMS
19:49<qq_>noli: Stallman http://www.stallman.org/
19:49<whitehat>!wifi
19:49<dpkg>it has been said that wifi is a silly name for 802.11 wireless networking. `Wifi' should have been a proper spec, like USB, and we'd have a few chipsets which would all work. Instead it was whizz-bang, let's include half-arsed encryption in the protocol spec, oh shit we now have to implement some not-half-arsed encryption which breaks everything, and ooh, fun let's release the same chipset again with changes to make it non-interoperable. Bah.
19:49<whitehat>!wifi with debian
19:50<whitehat>!debian wifi
19:50<whitehat>!debian-wifi
19:50<whitehat>!wireless
19:50<dpkg>wireless is probably The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or ask me about <what's my wireless>, or unfortunately, both of the above links are horrifically out of date.
19:50<engywuck_>"proper spec like USB"... i have at least one USB device (external HDD enclosure) that's non-working under kernel 2.6.18....
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19:51<noli>qq_, guys
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19:52<blarson>engywuck_: Just because the spec is proper dosn't mean the device doesn't violate the spec.
19:53<engywuck_>the same product worked under windows flawlessly -- so probably some violation that's ok for windows standard usb but for linux not at 2.6.18
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19:54<qq_>noli: google ' Stallman movies GNU'
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20:00<blarson>engywuck_: windows frequently violates specs and ignores many violations by various devices.
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20:02<engywuck_>i know *sigh*
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20:08<engywuck_>ah, damn... one *shouldn't use dd to clone a partition onto another disk if you want to discriminate them by UUID
20:08<engywuck_>;-)
20:09<Supaplex>doh :P
20:09<Supaplex>tune2fs can fix that. :)
20:09<weasel>well, maybe you are lucky and there's a random bitflip
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20:09<weasel>the odds are a million to one against but it might just work
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20:09<panagos>when i do "su USERNAME", i can't run any windowed apps! how can i change that? i get 'Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server' \n 'Xlib: No protocol specified'
20:10<Supaplex>!sux
20:10<dpkg>sux is a utility for running X apps as root. "aptitude install sux" and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <gksu>. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>.
20:10<engywuck_>tune2fs can't fix vfat :)
20:10<weasel>vfats have uuids?
20:10<Supaplex>engywuck_: but mkfs.ext3 can ;)
20:10<engywuck_>yep
20:10<engywuck_>or at least /lib/udev/vol_id says so :)
20:10<panagos>Supaplex: thanks! :)
20:11<Supaplex>aren't those haphazard serial numbers?
20:11<Supaplex>panagos: np. there's also my flavorate ssh -X for remote stuff.
20:11<engywuck_>yes, some sort of it
20:11<engywuck_>ID_FS_UUID=47E0-5941
20:12<engywuck_>the 47E0-part stayed the same in several tries
20:12<panagos>Supaplex: yeah. till now i would ssh -X to localhost to have anything run as another user... :|
20:13<Supaplex>panagos: are you using su -? or just su? the former wipes out the env iirc. you could tune sudo too. I can't think of any x app I'd need as root.
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20:14<knireme_>are there non proprietary drivers for ATI X1250? i don't care about 3d and I want hibernate
20:14<panagos>Supaplex: no, just su. i want to get a full shell, not just run some command, but i also want to be able to launch windowed apps through that shell - and i don't login as root, rather as another normal user
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20:15<Supaplex>ahh. I see
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20:15<panagos>:D
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20:16<engywuck_>ah, it uses the Volume-ID
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20:17<engywuck_>mkfs.vfat cat that one manually with -i option or create one from system time
20:24<Supaplex>anyway, I did some digging around about IP over Fibre Channel. disappointing news I must say
20:24<Supaplex>!rfc 4338
20:24<dpkg>well, rfc 4338 is <IPv6>,<IPv4>,<ARP> over <Fibre Channel>. "It never was pushed upstream into a kernel" according to James.Smart at emulex.com
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20:24<Supaplex>so emulex developed it, but never released it.
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20:25<Supaplex>there was some non-standard ip support on fc, but it's been axed too.
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21:04<panagos>does anyone please know how i can chkdsk a windows NTFS partition? i'm using a dual boot machine, so i can chkdsk, but only if i reboot into windows
21:04<inseino>how do I enable spell check for kde. I used to have a red underline for incorrect keywords and now its gone when I reinstall my etch...any help..thank you
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21:06<abrotman>panagos: you cannot in linux
21:06<abrotman>!ubcd
21:06<dpkg>rumour has it, ubcd is http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ or and a version full of windows tools http://www.ubcd4win.com/
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21:06<panagos>is there no way to use the windows drivers from my windows installation?
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21:17<hoopy>i went from etch to lenny and now fail2ban is pegging my CPU
21:17<hoopy>and it stopped just now
21:17<hoopy>perhaps it doesn't like being talked about
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21:19<amphi>heh
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21:23<dli>hoopy, yes, I saw similar problems from fail2ban
21:23<hoopy>it's not utilizing anything anymore
21:23<hoopy>aside from more memory than i'd like
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21:24*hoopy is running lenny on an embedded device
21:24<hoopy>not much memory to go around, i'd like something with the same functionality that is a bit lighter
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21:29<dli>hoopy, try: http://sshguard.sourceforge.net/
21:29<hoopy>does that do more than ssh?
21:29<hoopy>because i installed fail2ban because i was getting brute forced on ftp
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21:30<dli>hoopy, I guess it's better to disable ftp-login (so, download only)
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21:35<dondelelcaro>hoopy: it should still work even on lenny, just stop it and restart it.
21:35<hoopy>fail2ban is working just fine right now
21:35<hoopy>it was just pegging my cpu for about 10 minutes after i first started with lenny
21:35<hoopy>i'm just looking for lighter alternatives
21:35<hoopy>sshguard looks like it might be the answer
21:35<hoopy>it looks at log files just as fail2ban does
21:36<dondelelcaro>it's fairly lightweight, but you could probably implement the same in a few hundred lines of shell if you wanted to
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21:49<alwrwr2003>hi
21:49<alwrwr2003>i want program to download file like flash get in windows
21:50<abrotman>alwrwr2003: i believe there are a few on freshmeat.net
21:50<craigevil>alwrwr2003: aria, kget, axel , apt-cache search, downloadthemall for firefox is similiar as well
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21:53<alwrwr2003>thank you all
21:53<Topsy_Krate>greetings
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21:55<bebin>will 2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel support Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 processor
21:58<chealer>bebin: yes
21:58<engywuck_>if in doubt use an i386 kernel ^^
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22:01<bebin>chealer: thanks
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22:02*hoopy looks at his nslu2 and thinks i386 is a bad idea
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22:04<bebin>chealer: how to install e1000-7.5.5 driver in 2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel
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22:06<whitehat>guys I have bad news :( or good news :)
22:06<whitehat>I am installing windows xp onto this bad boy
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22:07<whitehat>But......I still wanna run debian on a nother partion will this create problems?
22:07<craigevil>why not just run Xp in a vm?
22:07<whitehat>what is a vm?
22:08<whitehat>!vm
22:08<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, vm is at http://www.wonderworks.com/vm/
22:08<whitehat>don't wanna click what is a vm?
22:08<craigevil>virtual box, VMplayer, qemu, Virtual Machine
22:08<craigevil>run Xp inside of debian
22:09<whitehat>Wait....sound like I will need another pc though :(
22:09<whitehat>How can I partion this disk with debian?
22:10<whitehat>guys?
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22:11<whitehat>guys......................
22:11-!-mode/#debian [+l 333] by debhelper
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22:11<whitehat>tou guys are no help windows xp time
22:11<whitehat>I shall make a live disk of debian bye bye
22:12<madman>wut
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22:12<whitehat>lol I'm back
22:12<madman>hello, i need help with flash support for iceweasel seems i am having a hard time
22:12<whitehat>Ok, I can solve your prob
22:13<whitehat>madman it's pretty simple
22:13<madman>go ahead
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22:13<whitehat>goto www.watch-movies.net and then go then click a random movie it will pop up need flash or some bs so then click install plugin
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22:13<whitehat>for some reason it dosen't say not avalibale win you do it from there
22:14<madman>tried it and it's not working
22:14<craigevil>apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
22:14<whitehat>does he have non free
22:14<whitehat>?
22:14<whitehat>apt-cache search flash plugin
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22:15<madman>no installation candidate
22:15<whitehat>did you try it from www.watch-movies.net
22:15<madman>yeah
22:15<whitehat>apt-cache search flash
22:15<craigevil>add contrib non-free to your sources.list then do apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
22:15<whitehat>yeah,try that
22:16<whitehat>hey crraigevil you seem smart can you tell me how to partion the hard drive with debian?
22:16<craigevil>try usign gparted
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22:16<whitehat>apt-get install gparted ?
22:17<madman>i tried adding the non-free but doesn't work
22:17<madman>anyway to get an updated source.list
22:17<whitehat>no
22:17<whitehat>try this apt-get update
22:17<madman>it's not working buddy
22:17<whitehat>you have to apt-get update after updating list
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22:17<madman>if i dont have the correct repositories it wont work
22:17<whitehat>I didn't have a problem that's weird
22:17<madman>all i need is an updated source list.
22:18<whitehat>ok I can send to u maybe?
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22:18<craigevil>use a editor to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and just add contrib non-free
22:18<gizzmo_>hello
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22:18<whitehat>try the following
22:18<madman>deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
22:18<whitehat>apt-get install gedit
22:18<whitehat>gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
22:19<craigevil>madman: http://www.geocities.com/reverendsky/sourceslist.txt look for the Etch/stable section
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22:19<whitehat>apt-update
22:19<whitehat>apt-get update ...sorry
22:19<madman>eh
22:20<madman>thanks craig, you understood what i meant.
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22:21<windowshasyou>anyone here try that texasflood method of booting?
22:21<whitehat>hey,please help! me gparted won't let me resize cause device is busy
22:21<windowshasyou>and what device are you trying to resize? your home directory?
22:22<craigevil>you have to unmount the partition before try to use gparted on it
22:22<whitehat>the c drive
22:22<whitehat>it won't let me unmont
22:22<whitehat>because device is busy
22:22<windowshasyou>open a console type in umount <device id> and try the force option
22:22<madman>is it mounted
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22:25<whitehat>bye,bye,debian
22:25<whitehat>I'll miss you till I get that boot disk
22:25<windowshasyou>what are you going to?
22:25<whitehat>install windows xp
22:25<windowshasyou>why?
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22:26<whitehat>need wifi support
22:27<whitehat>that's why
22:27<windowshasyou>and you cant get that with say linux mint or wifi tools?
22:27<whitehat>wifi tools?
22:27<engywuck_>whitehat: if "device is busy" on umount do an lsof /dev/mounteddevice
22:27<engywuck_>or try umount with -l option
22:28<madman>iceweasel doesn't want my flash libs
22:28<craigevil>madman: did you have iw running when you installed flash?
22:28<madman>closed
22:28<whitehat>Is ubuntu to much diffrent? same commands?
22:28<madman>same commands
22:28<whitehat>so what's diff?
22:28<craigevil>madman: in the iw address bar type about:plugins
22:29<madman>lot of automatism
22:29<engywuck_>debian's stable
22:29<engywuck_>ubuntu tries cutting edge and eye-candy
22:29<craigevil>even Debian Sid is "stable" compared to 99% of other distros
22:29<madman>looks like shockwave flash is installed.
22:29<whitehat>I have to have wifi guys I'm sorry
22:29<craigevil>then its installed
22:29<whitehat>I will get a live disk though
22:29<madman>youtube seems to deny that :(
22:30<whitehat>I use youtube
22:30<whitehat>with iceweasal
22:30<whitehat>no problems
22:30<craigevil>are you using anything like NoScript or anything else that blocks flash?
22:30<madman>good for you
22:30<engywuck_>did you install the -plugin package?
22:30<madman>but my wireless is working
22:30<madman>and yours is not
22:30<madman>we can play this game all night
22:30<engywuck_>my wireless works, too in debian
22:30<whitehat>:(
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22:31<whitehat>how do you have it working what do I install?
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22:31<windowshasyou>mine works as well
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22:31<engywuck_>you need the proper driver
22:31<windowshasyou>what chip is on your wifi card?
22:31<madman>and firmware
22:31<whitehat>idk, built in toshiba satelite laptop
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22:31<windowshasyou>do an lspci
22:31<windowshasyou>and look for it
22:32<windowshasyou>should say something like intel pro or broadcom junk
22:32<madman>lspci | grep Intel
22:32<madman>or lspci | grep Wireless
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22:32<madman>good think now, iceweasel closes when there is some flash content
22:33<windowshasyou>i'm never ordering from pizza hut again
22:33<madman>why
22:33-!-rjent_ [~rjent@dpc6935188191.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Gone.]
22:33<windowshasyou>everytime i eat something from there, i feel sick afterwards
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22:33<madman>:(
22:33<whitehat>maybe your ram is overloaded from the flash madman?
22:33<whitehat>so it shuts down?
22:34<madman>wtf
22:34<madman>my ram has overloaded?
22:34<whitehat>idk
22:34<whitehat>just a gues
22:34<whitehat>guess
22:35<craigevil>flash is a buggy pos, either that or your IW profile is going nuts, try using Gnash
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22:35<whitehat>How old is your debian install?
22:35<madman>brand new
22:35<whitehat>define brand new
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22:36<madman>2h and 39 minutes
22:36<whitehat>dang
22:36<whitehat>try this
22:36<whitehat>apt-get install buid-essential
22:36<whitehat>or something like that right?
22:36<madman>wtf
22:36<whitehat>apt-get install build-essential
22:37<whitehat>since, your kind of new you should try useing synaptic if you want
22:37<madman>lol
22:37<whitehat>unless....your not new
22:38-!-brweber2 [~brweber2@ip72-219-219-248.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
22:38<windowshasyou>i would guess hes not new
22:38<whitehat>I'm download the debian live cd
22:38<whitehat>downloading now
22:38-!-mudder [~user@c-68-41-160-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:38<whitehat>so after I install xp bam! it's back
22:38<madman>lol
22:38-!-mudder [~user@c-68-41-160-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #debian
22:39<whitehat>only at 14% though :(
22:39-!-mankod [~mankod@201.132.74.45] has joined #debian
22:39<windowshasyou>i'll give you my windows cd's, whitehat
22:39<madman>haha
22:39<windowshasyou>they may be a bit scratched up though since they have been in use as coasters for the last 2 years
22:39<whitehat>got one man, don't u love bitorrents?
22:39<madman>yeah for legal stuff they are great
22:40<madman>hope you gave 199$ to bill gates
22:40<whitehat>yeah right
22:40<windowshasyou>if not, he'll have his lawyers come and beat the shit out of you
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22:40<whitehat>they owe me that much for pre install vista on this laptop
22:41<windowshasyou>how old is your laptop?
22:42<madman>about a year old i guess
22:42<windowshasyou>what all linux distros have you tried?
22:42-!-amycus [~amycus@r190-64-64-5.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:42<whitehat>no this is brand new laptop
22:43<whitehat>and this the only distro I ever used since vista bugged out
22:43<madman>define brand new
22:43<whitehat>1 month ago
22:43<whitehat>bugged out the first day
22:44<whitehat>and I said f*** that and said format debian my old friend
22:44<windowshasyou>and now your ditching your old friend to go back to windoze
22:45<whitehat>no, i'm putting him back
22:45<madman>lol, madman doesn't want to be a friend with whitehat
22:45<whitehat>I need xp for school
22:45<madman>get ditched so fast
22:45<whitehat>that's the only reason
22:45<madman>what school are you studying?
22:45<whitehat>um....high school
22:45<windowshasyou>lmao
22:45<whitehat>9th grade
22:45<whitehat>we have to have laptops
22:45<whitehat>and i have linux so there are sorta problems
22:46<madman>what do you want to do in life
22:46<madman>career-wise
22:46<whitehat>game designer
22:46<whitehat>I program in c++
22:46<madman>nice
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22:47<whitehat>but after that I'm going to open a magic the gathering /computer shop which has always been my dream :)
22:48<whitehat>when you install the dreaded windows can you enter any serial?
22:48<windowshasyou>i take it you haven't heard of wine or vmware, whitehat?
22:48<whitehat>no
22:48<whitehat>wait!!!!!!
22:48-!-brweber2 [~brweber2@ip72-219-219-248.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:48<whitehat>somone said something like that
22:48<madman>lol
22:49<whitehat>what is it
22:49<windowshasyou>wine lets you run windows only shit in linux
22:49-!-p_quarles [~lee@adsl-68-72-80-197.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #debian
22:49<whitehat>like?
22:49<windowshasyou>for instance some of the more complicated games
22:49<windowshasyou>prey
22:49<windowshasyou>c&c3
22:49<windowshasyou>you can run pretty much everything but dos stuff
22:49<whitehat>me and my buds are makeing a alternative to the three bad boys of OS right now
22:49<windowshasyou>vmware lets you install windows over top of linux
22:49<whitehat>it's called phoneix
22:50<whitehat>we have it set up...but..can't get the damn thing to boot so it's still a work in progress :O
22:50<whitehat>!vmware
22:50<dpkg>VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask me about <vmware support> and <vmware-package>.
22:50<whitehat>!vmware-package
22:50<dpkg>vmware-package is a Debian <contrib> package - available for lenny and sid - which provides a 'make-vmpkg' utility. This utility can create Debian packages of various VMware products and related software. See also <vmware support>.
22:50<madman>vmware is generic, you have server and esx or (vi3)
22:51<whitehat>neither
22:51<madman>you should probably get workstation
22:51<madman>manually install it
22:51<madman>it's pretty straight forward
22:51<whitehat>i'll see
22:51<whitehat>nothing popped up
22:51<madman>www.vmware.com
22:52<whitehat>I got a question. when you burn a iso to linux does it finish the disk? because that is a waste of a dvd-rw
22:53<windowshasyou>you can set it via gui or syntax to leave it open
22:53<madman>yeah
22:54<madman>dvd-rw must be pretty expensive for a 9th grader
22:55<windowshasyou>i would imagine so, what with working at mcdonalds for like 5.85 an hour on the weekends
22:56<whitehat>no, working at the local computer shop repareing pcs for 35$ a pc and 7 dollars a hour
22:56<madman>nice
22:56<whitehat>I can build them muhahahahahahaha
22:56<madman>you should get A+
22:56<madman>the best certification in the field
22:56<whitehat>sadly...no a+ in computer class
22:57<whitehat>banned from school computers
22:57<whitehat>there was a incident.........
22:57<madman>please tell me about it
22:57<windowshasyou>where you were caught veiwing porn?
22:57<whitehat>well, are school had ftp access...
22:57<whitehat>port 21 open.....
22:57<whitehat>could not stop myself..
22:58-!-craig [~craig@155.231.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
22:58<windowshasyou>ok, so they left the telnet port open, big deal
22:58<windowshasyou>damn near all servers have that open
22:58<whitehat>they also had the pass as root
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22:58<madman>omg you roxx0rz
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22:58<whitehat>defaced hahahahahahaha I defaced the school website and they found out cause best friend told :(
22:59<madman>damn
22:59<madman>you are some crazy hacker
22:59<madman>almost like kevin mitnick
22:59<whitehat>my school is very very very stupid. you can fire off a netsend and laugh and run away
22:59<madman>you should call yourself zero cool
23:00<whitehat>lol I miss that movie
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23:00<whitehat>well,now I have to put up with windows how much space it take?
23:00<windowshasyou>whitehat you should add a 1337 at the end of your name
23:01<madman>you should know that, mr expert in computer repairs
23:01<whitehat>lol leet
23:01<whitehat>hardware is diffrent from software
23:01<madman>no shit
23:01<whitehat>well I repaird hardware
23:01<whitehat>not software
23:01<madman>k
23:01<madman>oh my bad
23:02<windowshasyou>your looking at 200-350 megs for an xp sp2 install
23:02<madman>easy
23:02<whitehat>not that bad
23:02<whitehat>lol download both isos right now
23:02-!-mellisandre [~et@ARennes-359-1-153-5.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
23:02<madman>nice
23:02<whitehat>debian is at 38%
23:02<windowshasyou>thats not including all the space that the spybots will take up once you connect your xp box to the net
23:03<whitehat>and windows is at 58% wtf
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23:03<whitehat>yeah,I gotta lock that bitch down tight
23:03<windowshasyou>what trackers are you using?
23:03<whitehat>isohutn
23:03<whitehat>isohunt
23:03<windowshasyou>theres a way to lock windows down?
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23:03<craigevil>get windows xp performance edition
23:03<madman>lol poweroff the box
23:03<whitehat>have you seen the linux commerical?
23:03<madman>what's commerical
23:04<madman>it's a new version of xp?
23:04<whitehat>most...intruders...come...through....WINDOWS!!!.....get it?
23:04<whitehat>thats the commerical
23:04<windowshasyou>yeah
23:04<madman>omg, that joke is older than your mother and daddy
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23:04<madman>geez
23:04<whitehat>have no dad :(
23:04<craigevil>only windows here are the one built in the house/walls
23:05<whitehat>i seriously hate windows
23:05<madman>what happened to your dad
23:05<amphi>commerical? isn't that the corp behind ubuntu?
23:05<madman>LOL
23:05<whitehat>killed by pit bull
23:05<windowshasyou>lol
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23:05<madman>omg
23:05<madman>serios?
23:05<whitehat>yep was a boxer pit bull
23:05<madman>damn
23:06<whitehat>i got put to sleep though ;)
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23:06<whitehat>it i meant
23:06<madman>yeah
23:06<madman>pretty obvious there
23:06<whitehat>anyways you know what my computer class teachers???!!!??
23:06<madman>what?
23:06<whitehat>windows office word 2003!!
23:06<whitehat>could you sit through that?
23:07<madman>lol
23:07<whitehat>they run windows me
23:07<whitehat>it's awful
23:07-!-mamb0x [~df@200.89.92.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:07<madman>la creme de la creme
23:07<whitehat>I said no no no and just killed the network
23:07<whitehat>they made me sooo mad
23:07<madman>yeah
23:07<madman>please dont hack me
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23:07<whitehat>toaday class well learn about...windows word 2003 duh duh duh
23:07<whitehat>dude chill your useing linux dude
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23:08<madman>i am scared now
23:08<whitehat>hey, guys do yall have a psp?
23:08<madman>yeah i got two
23:09<whitehat>i got a site for em www.allpsp.co.nr
23:09<whitehat>we had a enemy site at www.allpsp.max.io but I took care of em
23:10<whitehat>check the site that tried to beat me below it's at http://www.allpsp.axspace.com/
23:10<madman>question : are your parents cousins
23:10<whitehat>no they werent
23:10<madman>are you from texas
23:11<whitehat>no i'm not
23:11<windowshasyou>floriduh?
23:11-!-devil_ [~devil@dslb-088-072-248-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
23:11<whitehat>nope
23:11<whitehat>arkansas
23:11<windowshasyou>that explains alot
23:11<whitehat>whatever
23:11-!-t [~t@c-71-204-166-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:12<whitehat>I get to graduate in 11 grade which is cool
23:12-!-t [~t@c-71-204-166-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
23:12<madman>since you are so much of a genius
23:12<madman>dman
23:12<madman>i wish iw as like you
23:12<whitehat>i'm gonna go to sail collage for games
23:12<madman>lol
23:13<madman>k brb reboot
23:13<windowshasyou>wh1t3h4t 1s th3 r0x0r!!
23:13-!-madman [~madman@modemcable067.88-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:13<whitehat>not so whitehat lol
23:13-!-huhlig [~huhlig@c-76-20-46-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
23:13<whitehat>what app yall useing to chat here?
23:14<windowshasyou>konversation, you?
23:15<whitehat>xchat
23:15<windowshasyou>thats not a bad one, ever tried bitchX?
23:15<whitehat>Yeah I got that one aswell
23:15-!-madman [~madman@modemcable067.88-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
23:15<madman>sup
23:16<whitehat>i'm writeing windows xp pro to a dvd
23:16<madman>nice
23:16<madman>what kind of crayon
23:16<windowshasyou>lol
23:16<whitehat>crayon?
23:16<whitehat>oh
23:16<whitehat>lol
23:16<madman>oh
23:16<madman>lol
23:17<whitehat>debian only at 58% :(
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23:18<madman>please dont send me files
23:19<whitehat>waz a joke
23:19<madman>was a serious
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23:19<whitehat>wasn't really gonna do it
23:19<whitehat>only .htm dude don't freak didn
23:19-!-dabbill [~dabbill@c-24-21-77-37.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit []
23:19<whitehat>even send it
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23:20<whitehat>god damn it to cock sucking hell my dvd drives stuck again
23:20<windowshasyou>user error?
23:20<madman>watch your tone young boy
23:20<whitehat>oops
23:20<engywuck_>pebkac?
23:20<whitehat>stupid dvd drive has gum on it
23:20<madman>i expected semen
23:20<windowshasyou>same here
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23:21<whitehat>whatev atleast I have a girl
23:21<madman>lol
23:21<windowshasyou>blow up dolls don't count
23:21<madman>your dog also don't count
23:21<whitehat>your mum does
23:21<madman>oh my mom is dead
23:21<whitehat>I know
23:21<whitehat>I dug her up
23:22<madman>pit-bull fight
23:22<whitehat>i hate them dogs
23:22<madman>yup, you dad was a tard for dying @ a dog
23:22<madman>i guess he had the tard gene
23:22<madman>which spreads
23:22<whitehat>waz a big dog
23:22<madman>irrelevant
23:23<whitehat>got his throat
23:23<windowshasyou>i find it the greatest of trajedies that whitehat learned of birth control before his parents
23:23<madman>was your dad fellating him?
23:23<madman>lol
23:23<mysupper>What package should I install to use pgdn and pgup key in man pages.
23:23<whitehat>no
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23:23<whitehat>apt-cache search pgdn\
23:23<mysupper>I couldn't find pager for man pages.
23:24<mysupper>thx
23:24<whitehat>withough the \
23:24<madman>lol
23:24<whitehat>does anything pop up?
23:25<mysupper>nothing.
23:25-!-whitehat is now known as blackhat
23:25<blackhat>fear me
23:25<blackhat>for I am now blackhat
23:25<mysupper>*.*
23:25<madman>:s
23:25<windowshasyou>lmao
23:25<madman>www.blackhat.org
23:25<blackhat>deltree *.*
23:25<windowshasyou>fear you? jesus
23:26<blackhat>type that up there lol
23:26<chealer>mysupper: less
23:26<madman>we got an hacktivist here
23:26<windowshasyou>why would i fear the room idiot?
23:26<blackhat>whatever
23:26<windowshasyou>right on, a hacktivist
23:26<blackhat>wtf is hacktivist?
23:26<madman>lol
23:26<madman>pit-bull eating daddies
23:26<blackhat>whatev
23:27<mysupper>What package should I install to use pgdn and pgup key in man pages? I coudn't find anything useful with 'apt-get install pager*'.
23:27<blackhat>did you try apt-cache search pager?
23:27<madman>did you try not listening to blackhat dude
23:27<mysupper>Yes. that shows nothing.
23:27<chealer>mysupper: see above
23:27<mysupper>chealer, What do you mean by less.
23:27<blackhat>de sen di ho madman
23:28<blackhat>shutup in jap
23:28<chealer>mysupper: "less" is the answer to the question you asked.
23:28<madman>lol
23:28<mysupper>chealer, ok.
23:28<madman>funny that you know more about japanese than your english.
23:28<blackhat>grrrrrrrrr
23:29<madman>have you ever considered leaving usa for japan?
23:29<madman>it's been real fun
23:29<madman>thanks
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23:29<blackhat>cya
23:30<mysupper>chealer, you mean "less - Pager program similar to more". is this right?
23:30<chealer>mysupper: yes
23:30<mysupper>great.
23:31-!-brmuljo [~AOOL@12-205-109-228.client.mchsi.com] has joined #debian
23:32<mysupper>chealer, thx! I wasted long time to find out pagers. :(
23:32<blackhat>most go find fork to open dvd drive with lol
23:33<windowshasyou>might i suggest some cleaner to remove the semen stains as well?
23:34<blackhat>I opened it
23:34<blackhat>debuab us at 94% now!!!!!
23:34<blackhat>debian
23:35-!-blackhat is now known as whitehat
23:35<whitehat>join the light side
23:35<whitehat>gotta be a blank dvd-rw here somewhere
23:36<windowshasyou>as he sorts through the mountains of gay porn disks
23:36<whitehat>found one
23:36<whitehat>nope mountains of movies I got a big 60 spindel of dvd-rws for 25 dollars
23:37<whitehat>home depo sell cheap dvd-rws
23:38<whitehat>now How do I get it to let me save to disk again after I make a iso image on it?
23:38<chealer>whitehat: "it"?
23:40<whitehat>dvd-rw
23:40<chealer>whitehat: which disk?
23:40<whitehat>dvd-rw
23:41<whitehat>for debian gonna put it on i
23:41<whitehat>it
23:41<chealer>whitehat: and what did your first "it" refer to?
23:41<whitehat>debian
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23:42<RIVE>Hello, good evenning.
23:43<engywuck_>nono, less is not the answer, most is :)
23:43<chealer>whitehat: did you try "Format DVD+-RW..."?
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23:44<whitehat>no
23:45<whitehat>writeing dvd
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23:46<whitehat>omgs slowing laptop down writeing to this disk
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23:49<whitehat>stil writeing
23:49<whitehat>writeing....writeing....
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23:51<whitehat>bye guys I'll be going now
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23:52<r00t4rd>Is anyone here familiar with installing debian on a netwinder?
23:55<dli>!anyone
23:55<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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