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00:21<loopdee>how would i troubleshoot a joystick not working ?
00:22<tj__>cani get more ouput lines from dmesg?
00:22<loopdee>input accesspad /class/input/input9
00:23<loopdee>how to tell if on /dev/input/js0
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00:24<loopdee>js0 is there just i do not think for joystick
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00:31<mysupper_>hello guys
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00:36<Lucky>Does etch listen for IPv6 router advertisements by default or is there anything I need to do (set config option/install package)? I /should/ have IPv6 natively on my network, but am not seeing a router being configured.
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00:37<pinto3>there's .gz files in /var that have former boot messages and kernel messeges tj
00:37<pinto3>logrotate moves them around ever so often/per boot
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00:40<pinto3>i have an ipv6 ip address configured automatically, but my router doesn't support it, i see packages for ipv6 dhcp
00:41<Lucky>pinto3: my router is supposed to support IPv6 in that colo out of the box.
00:42<pinto3>i'm not sure, maybe try /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
00:43<pinto3>i didn't see any reference to 'v6' in dhclient.conf(5) or dhclient's manpage, maybe you need one of the other packages
00:44<pinto3>apt-cache search dhcp | grep v6 gives a little list
00:45<Supaplex>your ipv6 provider should be advertising it on the wire...
00:46<Supaplex>unless they're an administrative numb nuts
00:46<Lucky>Supraplex: right. So how do I test if my provider advertizes it on the wire? Is there a utility for it?
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00:50<Supaplex>should show up in syslog, one way or another.
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00:51<Supaplex>freenode has #ipv6 iirc
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00:53<Lucky>Supraplex: thanks!
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00:55*fxiny wonders if he turned into a Toyotaplex as well :)
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01:01<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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01:03<Delzin>hi all
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01:04<Delzin>hey does anyone know any mobile channel?
01:04<Supaplex>mobile? mobile phone? a channel that moves around?
01:05<Delzin>mobile phone
01:05<Supaplex>Delzin, not that I know of. what do you want to do with it? btw, don't pm me. it's generally nicer to ask before you do.
01:06<Delzin>i want to unlock a game at my nokia N81
01:06<Delzin>Asphalt urban gt3 street rules
01:06<Supaplex>no idea actually
01:06<Delzin>ok thx
01:07<Delzin>do know any phone channel?
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01:07<Supaplex>I don't
01:08<Delzin>ok thx
01:09<Delzin>humm i remember i'm having a problem
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01:09<Delzin>when i try to start a game(regnum) the KDE crash
01:09<Delzin>do u have any idea what i can do to fix it?
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01:17<chealer>Delzin: regnum? is that in Debian?
01:17<Delzin>non official linux client
01:17<chealer>Delzin: which Debian suite?
01:18<Delzin>but they have
01:18<Delzin>work well
01:18<Delzin>i'm using a brazilian debian
01:18<Delzin>but works at ubuntu too
01:18<Delzin>i know works at openSUSE
01:18<Delzin>and fedora
01:18<Delzin>thats all i remember
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01:20<Delzin>chealer is that what u wanna know?
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01:20<chealer>Delzin: which version of Debian do you use?
01:20<Delzin>any bash command that i can take a look?
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01:22<k-man>is there some way i can find out the make and model of my motherboard from the command line?
01:23<chealer>!tell Delzin about debian version
01:23<gsimmons>k-man: Try using 'hwinfo', specifically `hwinfo --bios' ("Board Info", etc).
01:25<k-man>thanks gsimmons
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01:58<vsmatck>is there anything which needs to be installed to mount a cifs share? I have the mount.cifs application in my path but when I do a mount -t cifs //ip/server /destination/dir it tells me "mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system"
01:59<neotek>you need to either have it compiled into the kernel or use the module
01:59<neotek>oh wait, cifs
01:59<neotek>you mean the windows 2000 shit
01:59<neotek>just use samba
02:00<vsmatck>I don't want to be the server, I want to be the client.
02:00<vsmatck>I think your on to something about the kernel module though. Kernel has to support it I'm thinking.
02:00<neotek>yea, samba is client/server
02:00<vsmatck>oh I didn't know that!
02:02<vsmatck>doh, wait I got to mount it in a directory though. I'm trying to set up my mp3 collection on one computer for gnump3d on my web server.
02:02<vsmatck>I know smbfs will work but that was total trash last time I tried it.
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02:05<vsmatck>bah yeah I think cifs isn't compiled in but smbfs is. I'll just use smbfs, I haven't used it in a long time maybe it's better now. When I last used it it would hang when the network went out and require me to restart to mount in the directory again.
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02:10<chealer>vsmatck: which kernel do you use?
02:11<vsmatck>2.4.27-2-386 ahh! 2.4 I guess that would explain it.
02:11<vsmatck>err, would it? I mean I know that's older.
02:11<chealer>vsmatck: right...running sarge?
02:11<vsmatck>oh naw, etch.
02:12<vsmatck>it's on really old hardware, I think I tried 2.6 and it didn't work or something. It was years ago I loaded it.
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02:12<vsmatck>*it's all coming back to me*
02:12<chealer>vsmatck: well, that kernel is an old sarge kernel. if you're really on etch you should reboot to a new kernel
02:13<vsmatck>chealer, oh seriously!? I think I did a dist-upgrade from sarge. Lemme see what dist-ugprade says now.
02:13<chealer>vsmatck: /etc/debian_version may be more helpful
02:14<vsmatck>says 4.0 so etch.
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02:14<vsmatck>I tried dist-upgrade and it said nothing needed to be upgraded. I looked in /boot/grub/menu.lst and I only have the one kernel installed.
02:14<chealer>vsmatck: OK, then you probably have a newer kernel available or you should install one
02:14*vsmatck looks on apt.
02:14<chealer>vsmatck: which CPU do you use?
02:14<vsmatck>I may have removed that meta-package for the kernel or something stupid.
02:15<vsmatck>dual pentium 2 333 overdrives baby!
02:15<chealer>vsmatck: install linux-image-686
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02:16<vsmatck>it's sitting right behind me so no big deal if it doesn't come right back up I guess.
02:17<vsmatck>hmmm linux 2.6 depends on that and udev. I'm a little scared.
02:17<vsmatck>it wants to remove hotplug too.
02:18<vsmatck>ok I'm going for it!
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02:24<vsmatck>I guess I'll brb(I hope!). My irc runs on the computer getting updated.
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02:27<vsmatck>I'm alive!
02:28<vsmatck>chealer, your awesome dude! CIFS working for me now.
02:29<vsmatck>It's probably good I updated the kernel too. I bet I was missing a ton of security updates.
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02:29<chealer>vsmatck: you win
02:30<vsmatck>I feel like a winnar!
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02:52<Bagoor>I want to install driver of ipw3945, but there is no kernel modules in my package, something like ipw3945-modules, etc., and I only found packages : firmware-ipw3945, ipw3945d. Should I download it from, or what ?
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02:53<dpkg>If you're running a recent version of Debian (etch or greater), do the following: add <contrib> and <non-free> entries in your sources.list, "aptitude update && aptitude install ipw3945-modules-$(uname -r) firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d && modprobe ipw3945". If you're running Debian's 2.6.23 or newer, ask me about <iwlwifi>. See also <ipw3945-fu>
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03:43<Akatemik>Hi, I have a tricky problem here. For some reason I'm no longer able to boot, run-init cannot run /sbin/init because it doesn't have permissions
03:43<Akatemik>breaking at mount and peeking into the fs shows that init does have executable permissions
03:44<Akatemik>So thinking that maybe there's something wrong with selinux (wild guess), I tried booting with selinux=0 but only got a series of segfaults
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03:44<Akatemik>chrooting from break=mount (without the selinux=0) also results in a segfault...
03:45<Akatemik>I'm in a bit of a loss on what to do now.
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03:46<Akatemik>Unfortunately the server doesn't have an optical drive and I don't have an (working, it broke...) usb memory on hand. If requested, I can go and loan a stick from somewhere and try to boot from that.
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03:54<dondelelcaro>Akatemik: and init=/bin/bash doesn't work either?
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03:57<gear>is there an efficient way to reduce the drain ubuntu gnome puts on memory for everyday operations?
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03:59<Akatemik>dondelelcaro: "run-init: /bin/bash: Exec format error"
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04:05<Akatemik>Note that this is on a / mounted from raid1
04:06<Akatemik>If I try to boot without raid (directly from one of the disks) I get "error while loading shared libraries: /lib/ invalid ELF header"
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04:13<Bagoor>I'm using iwlwifi in Debian Lenny, but my network manager can't find any network. And I get this message in syslog: NetworkManager: <WARN> request_and_convert_scan_results(): card took too much time scanning. Get a better one.
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05:35<demian>por favor ayuda
05:35<demian>se los suplico
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05:37<demian>por favoooooooooor
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05:38<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
05:40<demian>por favor que alguien me ayude
05:43<demian>iros a tomar por saco
05:43<suiside>demian: if you want help you need to ask an actual question first, in english. If you want help in spanish read what dpkg said
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05:50<marth>I have a new DVD-ROM Disk
05:51<marth>and it's in the computer and Debian recognises that I put a cd in the drive
05:51<marth>but all cd's appear empty
05:51<marth>any help please?
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05:55<scimmiapazza>is there an istruction for install nvidia drivers in only one command?
05:55<suiside>!tell scimmiapazza about nvidia oneliner
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05:57<scimmiapazza>tnx =)
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06:03<XYZ-Saft>how do i move Trashcan to the lower panel like ubuntu?
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06:09<avu>XYZ-Saft, that's a panel applet, called 'trash'..
06:10<avu>XYZ-Saft, so you disable the trash icon on the desktop (gconf, somewhere under apps->nautilus) and add that applet to your panel
06:10<XYZ-Saft>aha :) thanks
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06:22<snaqo>anybody having problems with gcc-4.1 in sid? i get: gcc-4.1: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
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06:25<patrick295767>Who is using gaim for this debian irc ?
06:27<anthony># ubuntu-fr
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06:38<nahsan>any kernel developer here?
06:38<nahsan>i m trying to compile a module
06:38<nahsan>in etch
06:38<nahsan>i think im missing some package
06:38<nahsan>make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
06:39<nahsan>any idea?
06:41<sasha>Привет всем
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06:43<buffoon>nahsan: apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
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06:45<saito>Can someone please recommend me a good linux rss torrent downloader :r?
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06:50<patrick295767>2nahsan: maybe you need the linux image or from the compilation of the kernel
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06:54<SickBoy>Hi everyone
06:54<munga>Of-topic question: does anybody know a irc channel to ask a question about indian food ?
06:55<munga>or food in general ?
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06:57<SickBoy>Someone know a linux live for system programming ?
06:57<munga>system programming ?
06:57<SickBoy>yes in C
06:57<munga>you mean a live distro ?
06:58<munga>get the latest ubuntu ...
06:58<SickBoy>i have to code in C with SC but i need a live
06:58<patrick295767>come on;... there is other distros far better than ubuntu
06:59<SickBoy>i don't know if any live has SC library
06:59<patrick295767>mandriva ones are well finished
06:59<SickBoy>has SC library?
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07:02<munga>ubunto has a live cd
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07:04<demian>no se que paso
07:04<demian>de repente se quedo todo congelado
07:05<demian>solo le di glxgears en temrinal
07:05<demian>y se volvio loco todo
07:05<demian>ahora le doy en glxgears y ya me da 4900fps
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07:17<blarson>SickBoy: you can do a custom debian live cd. See
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07:21<patrick295767> is very nice way indeed :)
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07:22<patrick295767>link :
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08:10<patrick295767>is the irc debian still alive :) ? all eating ?
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08:12<salvin> _____
08:12<salvin>< moo >
08:12<salvin> -----
08:12<salvin> \ ^__^
08:12<salvin> \ (oo)\_______
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08:29<patrick295767>@(02:12:46 PM) salvin: < moo >: the moos are eating grass in the fields ; I go too seeing the sun ! :)
08:29<dpkg>mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav
08:30<Ganneff>now, please stop playing
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08:30<dpkg>mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav
08:31<salvin>Ganneff, yes sir
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08:36<patrick295767>here is some moo apt-get :
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09:00<roachmmflhyr>ugh!! I finally got my wifi driver installed and now I cannot connect heres what my syslog looks like when im trying to connect anyone know whats up with this?
09:02<abrotman>it's telling you to
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09:03<roachmmflhyr>abrotman, hah yeah thats the name of my network
09:03<roachmmflhyr>i dont like my neighbors too much
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09:10<tq|Memphis>fxiny: Have you mooed today?
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09:18<marth>hello there
09:19<marth>I have a DVD player, but it shows all cd's as Blank CD-R Disc
09:19<marth>I tried all three jumper-positions, but nothing changed
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09:21<marth>any help? :(
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09:23<Zachary>hello :)
09:24<sd88g93>Question: how do you install 32-bit software on debian linux 'etch' version which is for amd64 ?
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09:25<sd88g93>i see that there is a /emul directory . I would presume that is for emulation ?
09:25<sd88g93>any ideas ?
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09:27<Woet>i just edited /etc/network/interfaces, how to reload it?
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09:29<abrotman>/etc/init.d/networking restart
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09:29<Woet>thanks :)
09:30<Woet>takes long
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09:30<Zachary>I'm having a problem getting my nvidia drivers working on the latest release of Ubuntu
09:30<sasha>Привет всем как у вас дела, кто-то видит мое сообщение ?
09:31<Zachary>I am a new linux user and I am wondering if any of you would think that it would be a good option for me to try Debian and see if I could get my drivers installed and working there?
09:31<cahoot>'latest nvidia' isn't a good reason switch to debian
09:32<Zachary>any drivers really, I just would like my 3d acceleration to work
09:32<sasha><Zachary> - get drivers and install
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09:32<Zachary>What do you mean sasha?
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09:33<Woet>I dont know what happened, but Im unable to reach my server atm
09:33<Woet>after I restarted networking
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09:33<Woet>it responds to ping, but nothing else
09:33<abrotman>Zachary: ask #ubuntu
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09:34<mzilikazi>currently using mplayer to rip .wav files form dvd - this works fine:
09:34<mzilikazi>mplayer dvd://$m -vo null -vc null -af resample=44100:0:0 -ao pcm:file="${i}.wav" -chapter "${i}-${i}"
09:34<Zachary>thanks, I was actually just wondering if it would work better on Debian possibly?
09:34<mzilikazi>but - how to make 01.wav instead of 1.wav?
09:34<mzilikazi>of course some files will already have a 2 digit track number
09:34<Zachary>for they don't seem to work on Ubuntu, as I have tried everything already
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09:36<cahoot>'latest anything' isn't a good reason switch to debian Zachary
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09:36<Zachary>I didn't say latest
09:37<sasha><Zachary> Get a driver from the site and Nvidia settle - and will all be good
09:37<Zachary>any nvidia drivers just being installed would do
09:37<Zachary>right now I cannot get any 3d acceleration
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09:37<Zachary>sasha: that does not work
09:37<Woet>how to add another IP using ifconfig again?
09:37<Zachary>I have tried that
09:37<cahoot>Zachary: people tend to get nvidias drivers working on debian yes
09:38<jaakko>is there some network filesystem which is "native" linux or open source (smb is a windows protocol I think)?
09:38<sasha><Zachary> What you model
09:38<Zachary>thank you cahoot because it is something I am considering
09:38<Zachary>there is my post of the forums if you'd like to have a look possibly to try and help somewhat
09:38<Zachary>if possible
09:39<Zachary>it's a nvidia 6200
09:39<sasha>i have GForce6600 new drivers and 3d
09:39<Zachary>yeah mine's the gforce 6200 series 6
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09:40<Skrat>Yo all
09:40<sasha><Zachary> x86 or x86-64 ?
09:40<Skrat>Any of you set up an iBook G4 with a wireless driver and got it working?
09:40<cahoot>tried putting Driver nvidia - at the right spot in xorg.conf as suggested? Zachary
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09:41<jaakko>cahoot: can you give a server program name so I can share files with nfs?
09:41<Zachary>X86 sasha
09:41<Zachary>Yes I have cahoot
09:41<Zachary>that is my xorg.conf file
09:41<cahoot>jaakko: I'd suggest a google session for debian nfs howto
09:41<Zachary> Driver "nvidia"
09:41<Zachary>do you mean something like that?
09:42<sasha> - Download and install
09:42<Zachary>I've done that already sasha
09:42<Zachary>and thank you
09:42<abrotman>sasha: don't do that
09:43<Zachary>I did that but yet I still get this error in my Xorg.0.log file
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09:43<Zachary>(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
09:43<abrotman>Zachary: which version of Debian are you currently running?
09:43<Zachary>I am not running debian at the moment
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09:43<abrotman>then ask them .. not us
09:43<abrotman>if you want help here, please install Debian
09:43<Zachary>what the heck
09:43<Zachary>seriously :P
09:44<abrotman>yes, seriously
09:44<Zachary>i came here to ask if i switched to debian if it maybe would work
09:44<sasha><Zachary> used vesa
09:44<Zachary>but you guys are so wrapped up in your distro wars?
09:44<abrotman>Zachary: which nvidia card
09:44<cahoot>Zachary: people tend to get nvidias drivers working on debian yes
09:44<abrotman>Zachary: did you try the legacy stuff?
09:44<abrotman>Zachary: install Debian, then come back
09:44<Zachary>nope didn't try legacy because that does not apply for my card
09:45<abrotman>Zachary: otherwise, ask #ubuntu on
09:45<abrotman>or ask #nvidia on freenode
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09:45<Zachary>thanks I've tried that but no luck
09:45<abrotman>then install debian and use
09:45<abrotman>!nvidia one-liner
09:45<dpkg>well, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>.
09:45<mzilikazi>Zachary: this is not at all about distro wars - how could you know if it works on Debian unless you tried? nvidia works fine here on GeForce 6600 GT
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09:46<Zachary>yeah that's what I came here to ask :P
09:46<black_13>i am trying to install the vmware player and i get the following
09:46<Skrat>Lol, evil nivida drivers
09:46<Zachary>yeah nvidia drivers give me headaches
09:46<Zachary>haha ;)
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09:47<Zachary>what is the latest stable release of Debian?
09:47<Zachary>I should download that and hopefully then my nvidia card will work
09:47<Zachary>thank you
09:47<Zachary>and when was it released just out of interest sake?
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09:47<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>).
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09:47<Zachary>thanks :)
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09:48<Zachary>how often are the new releases?
09:48<Zachary>I wonder if Debian has south afircan repos
09:48<Zachary>I hope so
09:48<abrotman>yes they have .za mirrors
09:48<Zachary>thanks that'll be good then
09:49<jaakko>Zachary: there is no exact schedelu for debian releases, I think.
09:50<Zachary>Oh all right, I see. Thank you :)
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10:43<marth>my dvd player is not working
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10:43<marth>for some reason, it /can/ boot a windows 98 cd-rom, but not a debian cd or something else
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10:43<marth>I tried all cable options and jumper-settings
10:44<marth>can anyone try to help...? :|
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10:47<chealer>marth: FYI, the place where you put DVD-s is called a DVD drive
10:47<chealer>marth: what happens when you try?
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10:48<marth>chealer: it shows a Black CD, but the cd is not blank
10:48<marth>"You have inserted a blank disc."
10:48<ellobo>how can I list all available versions for package 'foo' in my sources.list mirrors?
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10:48<marth>and then on the desktop it says: "Blank CD-R Disc"
10:50<chealer>marth: in Windows 98?
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10:51<marth>chealer: eh no, I'm in Debian
10:51<marth>of course I'm in Debian ;-)
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10:51<ellobo>marth: hard to realize that :)
10:52<ellobo>marth: my destkop never showed me a "Blank CD-R Disc" :)
10:52<chealer>ellobo: $ apt-cache policy foo
10:52<ellobo>chealer: thnx
10:52<chealer>marth: and what happens when you try booting it?
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10:54<ellobo>isn't the compilation in the main strean mirror supposed to match the gcc version in the system ?
10:55<ellobo>my linux-image-2.6.24-1-... is compiled with 4.1.3 and the gcc version is 4.2.3
10:55<ellobo>!hit gcc mainainer
10:55*dpkg kicks gcc mainainer.
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10:58<erlend>hi, could anyone quickly run me through what I have to do to partition my hd so I can also run Win? I have a /dev/sda1 ext3 that needs to be formated so Win can install on it...
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11:00<ellobo>erlend: you need to supply more info
11:00<ellobo>erlend: is the ext3 partition using all the dist
11:00<chealer>ellobo: not necessarily
11:00<ellobo>sorry... sda1 :)
11:01<erlend>I have aprox 200 gb of space... the ext3 uses 182g, and I also have 2 others... dev/sda2 estended 4,3g and dev/sda5, 4,4g
11:01*ellobo gone to get glasses...
11:01<marth>chaeler: cd with debian or ubuntun don't boot, only win 98
11:01<chealer>marth: what happens when you try booting them?
11:01<ellobo>erlend: you need to provide free unformatted space to windows
11:02<erlend>yes, and I have 130gb free space...but it's in the partition that linux uses, so Win wont install there, says it needs some ntxx format of some sort
11:02<ellobo>something like: [ / (sda1) 182G ][ ? (sda2) 4.3 ][______free______]
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11:03<ellobo>erlend: windows wont install on a ext3 partition
11:04<ellobo>erlend: you need to make free unpartitioned/unformatted space on your disk
11:04<ellobo>erlend: windows will format it for you...
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11:05<erlend>yeah, windows formats it, but not the way I have it now, since the ext3 uses all the space... is there some way I can edit the ext3's properties, and free up 50gb from it?
11:05<erlend>so that win would find the free, unpartitioned space?
11:05<cahoot>erlend loe himself?
11:05<erlend>one and only =)
11:06<ellobo>erlend: yes
11:06<ellobo>!spank erlend for asking how to install windows on #debian
11:06*dpkg bends erlend for asking how to install windows on #debian over its knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK*
11:06<marth>chealer: the system just boots
11:06<marth>chealer: it doesn't start from the cd
11:06<erlend>hehe =) I only need it for work... cant run poker-software on linux =(
11:07<ellobo>erlend: nice work you have :)
11:07<erlend>indeed it is =)
11:07<erlend>and Wine lets me use some of them, but not the ones I need the most...
11:08<erlend>poker-sites should make linux varients aswell
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11:09<chealer>marth: are you sure your drive is a DVD drive or that it can read CD-Rs?
11:09<erlend>kk then, so the question is, how do I configure my existing ext3 partition, that uses all my space, so that I have 50gb of free, unformated space?
11:09<mysupper_>hello guys
11:09<cahoot>erlend: IIRC gparted will help you
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11:10<erlend>gparted refuses to help without erasing my data on the partition..
11:10<marth>chealer: yes, the DVD-player has text on it with "DVD multi recorder R DL"
11:10<marth>also, "RW DVD +R DL"
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11:11<marth>it's really strange, it does recognize a win98 cd, but nothing else I tried (ubuntun, debian cd, and so on)
11:11<chealer>marth: so Debian can't play, for example, an audio CD?
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11:12<erlend>cahoot: thanks =)
11:12<cahoot>erlend: well - if you truly are from T-heim you're welcome ;)
11:13<erlend>I even have a mustache ;)
11:13<marth>chealer: that works
11:14<marth>chealer: but no data-cd's, :(
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11:14<chealer>marth: how many CD-ROMs did you try other than audio CDs and Windows 98?
11:14<marth>chealer: three cd's
11:15<chealer>marth: CD-ROMs or just CD-s including the CD-Rs?
11:15<marth>I tried a forth now, a cd "the matrix path of neo"
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11:15<marth>also shows up blank
11:16<chealer>marth: is that a CD-ROM?
11:16<marth>a cd is what I mean, obviously
11:16<chealer>marth: it's obviously a CD, but is it a CD-ROM or what?
11:16<marth>that last one is a dvd
11:17<cahoot>nothing useful in dmesg?
11:17<marth>ubuntu and debian were cd's, not dvd
11:17<marth>"cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!"
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11:18<chealer>marth: so your "cd "the matrix path of neo"" is a DVD?
11:18<cahoot>marth: FWIW I had to use regionset to make the dvd in my lenovo t61 cooperate
11:18<chealer>marth: which Debian suite do you use?
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11:18<marth>cahoot: ok, is that a console command?
11:18<marth>marth: Debian stable, with gnome, the standard install
11:19<cahoot>it's an application (aptitude show regionset)
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11:21<marth>cahoot: it says "ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"!"
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11:21<marth>with a dvd in the drive
11:21<cahoot>you need a disk inserted
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11:22<EmleyMoor>Is there a name for the style of e-mail address where you use name-companyname@yourdomain to (a) enable you to sort it (b) see who's passing your address on, and is there a simple way to implement it in exim on Debian?
11:22<marth>doesn't look good
11:22<cahoot>marth: my ideas are now officially exhausted
11:22<chealer>marth: I'm chealer, you're marth ;) so Debian 4, right?
11:23<marth>chealer: yes
11:23<marth>cahoot: ok, thanks for trying to help
11:24<chealer>marth: how many CD-ROMs did you try other than audio CDs and Windows 98?
11:24<marth>two, debian and ubuntu
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11:24<marth>oh, also, the champions league 2004-2005 cd
11:24<marth>also shows up empty
11:25<marth>that's an official cd
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11:25<chealer>marth: so the Debian CD wasn't burned, you probably bought it, right?
11:25<marth>no, it was burned
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11:25<marth>the ubuntu cd was also burned, both from .iso files
11:25<chealer>marth: if it's burned, it's not a CD-ROM
11:25<marth>it was burned with my previous drive
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11:26<chealer>marth: so the only other CD-ROM you tried is the champions league 2004-2005 cd?
11:26<marth>used it to install the current debian
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11:26<marth>other than win98, debian, ubuntu, yes
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11:27<marth>I'll try to put a "VGA Driver" cd-rom from asus in it now and try that
11:27<marth>also shows up empty]
11:27<chealer>marth: as I wrote, if your Debian CD was burned, it's not a CD-ROM. same with Ubuntu
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11:28<marth>ok, but the VGA Driver cd-rom from asus is also showing up empty...
11:28<chealer>marth: what do you get in dmesg when inserting CD-ROMs?
11:28<marth>"cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!"
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11:29<chealer>marth: do you have another operating system on that machine, a livedistro, or another machine where you could try your DVD drive?
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11:32<marth>I have the ubuntu live cd
11:32<marth>no other operating system
11:32<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: In answer to your question about seeing who's sharing your email address, I use for that
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11:34<EmleyMoor>Wyzard: I am more interested in local multiple personal addressing, where I can use variations of my normal address and then, if I get junk, I can see immediately which address they sent it to, and therefore, who gave them the address
11:34<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: That's exactly what sneakemail does, with randomly-generated addresses which forward to your real address
11:34<EmleyMoor>As it is, my current address is being used in spam From: headers so I may be changing it anyway
11:35<marth>but I can't boot the ubuntu cd :D
11:35<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: with the headers adjusted so that you can see which sneakemail alias the message went through
11:35<EmleyMoor>Yes, but it's third party. My solution isn't
11:35<Wyzard>That's true
11:35<chealer>marth: ah, right
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11:35<chealer>marth: what about another machine?
11:35<EmleyMoor>(I know it can be done, but I just haven't seen how)
11:35<Wyzard>It also requires nearly zero work to set up, though :-)
11:36<lord_rob>Hi ! What's happening with the bts ? Apt-listbugs seems to take forever ... :/
11:36<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: As for your address being used in From: headers, that's inevitable, but I set up SenderID and hope that more organizations start checking it
11:36<marth>chealer: I have a windows machine and it can read all the cd's and dvd's
11:36<EmleyMoor>I'm interested in that too...
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11:37<chealer>marth: how old is your Debian machine's motherboard?
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11:38<JohnRandom>hi there... I've got an issue which isn't exatly debian related, but I'm using debian so, perhaps you'll help me with that one
11:38<EmleyMoor>Wyzard: Did Microsoft have a hand in it?
11:38<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: oops, sorry, what I'm using is SPF, not SenderID
11:38<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: I think SenderID is the one Microsoft was involved in, though I'm not sure of that
11:38<EmleyMoor>Still, looking
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11:39<Wyzard>EmleyMoor: My hosting provider ( provides straightforward setup of both DomainKeys and SPF via cPanel... I've never set them up directly with Exim though
11:39<JohnRandom>i've got 2 hdd in my computer, debian on the first one and now installed xp on a second one... xp overwrites the mbr and now i' trying to reinstall grub with a ubuntu live CD
11:40<chealer>lord_rob: still?
11:41<JohnRandom>i don't want to screw everything up, so, if here's anyone knowiing about reinstalling grub i would really appreciate this
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11:41<cahoot>JohnRandom: google windows overwrote mbr
11:41<cahoot>lots of howtos
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11:41<JohnRandom>cahoot: I did... isn't very specific, and I fear, I might do something wrong
11:42<cahoot>JohnRandom: - seems correct
11:42<ranix>I'm doing the majority of development on a C project in Debian with vim and gcc. I want to try compiling the same program for windows (or cross-compiling it?) Where should I start looking for info?
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11:43<JohnRandom>cahoot: reading
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11:45<EmleyMoor>Is SPF checking supported by exim on Debian or do I need to add an extension?
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11:46<suiside>ranix: pretty broad question you have there, you might find the MinGW project and runtime headers interesting, although there's surely other approaches as well
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11:46<ranix>suiside: I'll start my search with MinGW then, thanks for the tip.
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11:47<EmleyMoor>I guess it depends on the version...
11:47<suiside>ranix: is a good place to start
11:47<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... yes, it is supported
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12:28<songohan_>Hello everybody
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12:29<songohan_>somebody can help me please ?
12:30<less>What is your problem?
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12:30<songohan_>thank you
12:30<bcochofel>IHi, I have create a file for cron to execute and put it under /etc/cron.d but the script doesn't run.
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12:30<songohan_>i've installed Debian etch on my dell inspiron 510m
12:31<bcochofel>What should be the template to use for those files? Must they be exec?
12:31<songohan_>it boot up with ac current without problem
12:31<songohan_>but doesn't boot up with the battery
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12:32<songohan_>i haven't got this problem with windows
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12:32<songohan_>do you how resolve this problem ?
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12:32<fxiny>bcochofel: what's wring with using crontab ?
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12:34<bcochofel>fxiny: well, nothing, but I was trying to use cron.d
12:34<less>None of my files in /etc/cron.d are executable.
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12:34<fxiny>bcochofel: anyway files under /etc/cron.d are 644
12:34<ranix>hey suiside, thanks for the tip on mingw
12:34<ranix>I got my project to compile in Windows with Dev-C++
12:34<bcochofel>fxiny: should they have the she bang?
12:34<less>Yup, fxiny.
12:34<ranix>that means I can do all my development in debian and not have to touch this ratty OS
12:35<fxiny>bcochofel: nope
12:35<songohan_>somebody could help me please?
12:35<less>No, no !#/bin/sh there.
12:35<chealer>songohan_: which CPU does that use?
12:35<songohan_>Pentium M 1,6 GHZ
12:36<bcochofel>fxiny: well, my files only have one line with the cron, but is not being runned
12:36<less>Do you run the right cron daemon?
12:37<bcochofel>less: sorry, what do you mean?
12:37<less>There are various cron daemons, and they do not always pick up the same configuration files.
12:38<bcochofel>less: how can I tell that?
12:38<less>That's what I now think might be your problem.
12:38<less>ps -auxwww | grep cron
12:38<chealer>songohan_: which Linux image do you use?
12:39<bcochofel>root 10247 0.0 0.1 3396 960 ? Ss 17:37 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
12:39<less>And what files do you have in /etc/cron.d? ls -latr /etc/cron.d
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12:39<bcochofel>less: what should I be looking for?
12:39<songohan_>what do you what to say, i use the Debian Etch Cd1 for i386
12:40<less>bcochofel: I am not quite sure...
12:40<fxiny>bcochofel: i have only two entries in there : logcheck and vnstat . i do crontab -e for running scripts
12:40<less>Go to /var/log and see what cron is logging.
12:40<fxiny>bcochofel: eyeball vnstat deb
12:40<less>Most crons these days are quite verbose.
12:41<less>cd /var/log ; grep -il cron *
12:41<bcochofel>less: I have this: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
12:41<bcochofel>but not cron.d
12:42<less>Just cron is good enough here.
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12:42<less>Does it say anything that might look like an error message?
12:42<suiside>ranix: no problem, glad it worked out
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12:43<chealer>songohan_: that contains several Linux images. what does $ uname -r; output?
12:44<bcochofel>less: no errors
12:44<bcochofel>fxiny: I have php5, and postgresql-common, besides my files
12:44<songohan_>ok i understand, a moment please
12:45<bcochofel>fxiny: I can put my files under crontab but what about those two?
12:46<fxiny>bcochofel: is cron mailing you errors if you add your script to crontab -e ?
12:46<chealer>songohan_: does the problem persist with the 486 image?
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12:47<songohan_>i don't know
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12:47<bcochofel>fxiny: no. I've tested the cmd on the cron and it works manually
12:48<fxiny>bcochofel: check /etc/crontab then
12:48<fxiny>does it run with the vampires at midnight ? :)
12:49<bcochofel>fxiny: do you mean timestamp of file?
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12:50<bcochofel>fxiny: well, timestamp is 00:02
12:50<fxiny>bcochofel: /etc/cron.hourly time and daily
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12:50<bcochofel>17 * * * * root cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
12:51<vasya>hi all! I'm in trouble - I can't read,play or rip audio disk. dmesg tells me: sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error,command <6> Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00 00 sr: Current sunse key: Hardware Error Additional sense: Traching servo failure.
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12:52<bcochofel>fxiny: is there a way to test cron? force it to run?
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12:53<cahoot> Traching servo failure - failing hardware?
12:53<fxiny>bcochofel: change /etc/cron.daily time like : 55 18 * * *
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12:55<bcochofel>fxiny: I put 56 17 * * *
12:55<vasya>yes. But why it's failes? what can i do with it? it's very strange that everything is fine if disk contains not audio data.
12:55<cahoot>tried more than one audio cd?
12:56<bcochofel>fxiny: ok, cron has run
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12:56<bcochofel>fxiny: daily I mean
13:01<fxiny>bcochofel: i have 7 crontab entries managing a "punch" of wild scripts running from 5 to 17 minutes .
13:02<fxiny>osd cat and perl taking care of my mail subject lines
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13:03<fxiny>so i love cron
13:03<vasya>yes. Also i tried different applications. Gnome-cd player tells me drive error. cdplay does not play either. All them can do only 1 thing - eject disk. but they don't read it.
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13:06<less>cron is great.
13:07<fxiny>it is
13:07<vasya>my kernel - 2.6.18-5-amd64. Also drive is SATA drive - PLEXTOR PX-7125A
13:08<cahoot>vasya: so the cdrom is scd0 or such?
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13:09<fxiny>i want festival+cron manage my mail , not ready yet so i use osd_cat which is perfect for the things i do
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13:09<vasya>exactly scd0
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13:11<cahoot>vasya: what ownership is set on /dev/scd0?
13:12<vasya>brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Apr 27 20:28 /dev/scd0
13:12<walrus>i have this monolithic kernel and dont know how to make initrd trough initramfs-tools =(, since there is no /lib/modules/(uname -r) directory, i dont know how i will do it ...
13:13<vasya>but under root result is the same
13:13<vasya>result of applications of course
13:14<less>OK, so there's noprivilege problem.
13:15<fxiny>no , is not ready . i can accept say a subject line printed over a pr0n but what about a festival voice telling me "new spam coming" over a Mozart "allegro" ? not ready yet :P
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13:18<JMC>hi everyone, could someone help me, i cant activate a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
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13:19<dpkg>i heard ipw2100 is a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: aptitude install ipw2100-modules-`uname -r` and then get the firmware from and drop that in /lib/firmware/ -- Also see #ipw2100
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13:21<JMC>yeah but when i run aptitude install ipw2100-modules-`uname -r` it says that the package ipw2100-modules-2.6.18-6-486 could not be found
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13:26<vasya>JMC: mabe you need to add non-free repositories?
13:26<DennisTheTiger>When running Google Earth, I get error 'Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".' scrolling down my terminal. Running nvidia chipset under Lenny, with the packages libgl1-mesa-glx, nvidia-glx, and rss-glx installed. Meanwhile, no display shows up in GE. What must I do?
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13:26<JMC>vasaya how could I do that, im new in this thing
13:27<JMC>in debian i mean
13:27<DennisTheTiger>vasya: I got it.
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13:30<DennisTheTiger>JMC: Any luck?
13:30<JMC>mmm noup
13:31<JMC>it returns me again that the package ipw2100-modules-2.6.18-6-486 could not be found
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13:32<DennisTheTiger>JMC: Did you apt-get update?
13:32<JMC>im on it DenisTheTiger
13:32<DennisTheTiger>Dang me, ipw2100 doesn't even come up in Lenny.
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13:34<vasya>JMC: try to use ipw2100-modules-2.6.18-5-486 instead
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13:34<JMC>so i apt-get install ipw2100-modules-2.6.18-5-486
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13:35<vasya>yes sure
13:35<vasya>i found this module in repositories
13:36<abrotman>uhm .. ipw2100-modules-2.6.18-6-486 is in the repo
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13:38<DennisTheTiger>JMC: do 'apt-cache search ipw2100' for the correct name.
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13:38<JMC>nothing returned
13:39<JMC>JMC:~# apt-cache search ipw2100
13:39<DennisTheTiger>JMC: Interesting. You running sarge?
13:39<DennisTheTiger>...erm, etch?
13:39*DennisTheTiger needs more coffee
13:39<JMC>no im in lenny
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13:41<abrotman>JMC: you probably want iwlwifi
13:41<dpkg>hmm... iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.23 (modprobe iwl4965 or iwl3945) and is difficult to get working with kernels < 2.6.21. Firmware provided by the 'firmware-iwlwifi' package (lenny/sid). HOWTO at or #ipw2100 @, or <wireless tree>
13:41<abrotman>oh .. maybe not
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13:42<vasya>JMC: do this way install apt-spy ( apt-get install apt-spy) then apt-spy -o stabel.list -d stable then add content of stable.list at the end of /etc/apt/sources.list ( this gives you list of the repositories contains stable packages) then execute apt-get update and try apt-cache ipw2100 and tell us you result
13:43<vasya>abrotman: can you tell which repositories are in your sources.list?
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13:43<abrotman>lenny sources
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13:44<EmleyMoor>Is there an easy way to introduce spf checking on Debian stable?
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13:49<hazard3>what is the ssh group for?
13:49<hazard3>(IE: would it be catastrophic if I were to add users to it and use it for something permissions-related)
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13:50<fxiny>hazard3: why ? use /etc/sshusers-allowed
13:51<hazard3>becuase I like doing allowed/denied users for services with group memberships
13:51<EmleyMoor>Is there any way I can make all mail coming in addressed to "user+identifier" go to "user"'s mailbox and then be sorted by their exim filter?
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13:51<hazard3>(and 'ssh' is a convient name to use for the ssh group)
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13:53<EmleyMoor>Is it possible to see whether my exim was compiled with certain makefile flags?
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13:55<vasya>EmleyMoor: yes. If you have compilation log file, otherwise i think it's impossible.
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13:56<EmleyMoor>vasya: Are compilation log files for standard builds available?
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13:58<Gingetsuryuu>I'm trying to install jdk 6 u 6 in debian. I tried using fakeroot make-jpkg, but it doesn't seem to be working
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13:59<Gingetsuryuu>It just says "No matching plugin found" and removes the temp directories...
13:59<Gingetsuryuu>What am I doing wrong?
13:59<vasya>EmleyMoor: i don't think so. But sometimes documentation can tell you about some options (read flags) which were used.
14:01<EmleyMoor>I understand Debian's exim can call spfquery to check spf... any guidance available?
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14:06<wayneward>anyone using pulse audio and is it better to just use alsa??
14:08<Gingetsuryuu>How do I install java6 on debian?
14:08<DennisTheTiger>!tell Gingetsuryuu about java
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14:09<DennisTheTiger>Gingetsuryuu: The instructions are also in that privmsg you got. /msg dpkg install java for details.
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14:09<wayneward>you tried apt-cache search java
14:09<wayneward>then apt-get install java...
14:10<Gingetsuryuu>I tried fakeroot make-dpkg but it didn't work... Gonna try these now.
14:10<DennisTheTiger>Gingetsuryuu: I think that's the old way.
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14:10<DennisTheTiger>Seems to be a new way in Lenny.
14:10<wayneward>try apt-get install sun-java6-bin
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14:17<Gingetsuryuu>Ok, how do I check what version of java I can run?
14:19<slaxz_>java --version
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14:20<EmleyMoor>How do I set a macro in my (split) exim4 configuration? What file do I put it in and what do I do to make the change "take"?
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14:21<Gingetsuryuu>Wow, allota versions, but none seems to be java... is SableVM decent?
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14:31<shze>sometimes xorg crashes on random key presses in konqueror, output is at
14:31<shze>anybody an idea where to start?
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14:32<abrotman>RALT has two symbols!
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14:34<shze>abrotman: i saw that, but then i read Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
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14:37<jose_figueroa13>buenas a todos
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14:39<Gingetsuryuu>Ok, this isn't working.
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14:39<Gingetsuryuu>I can't seem to get java 6
14:40<gcs>I have emails in an mbox file. How can I get them one-by-one and repost them?
14:41<fxiny>formail ?
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14:45<VTommyB>hello guys got a small problem with server i have with Init: No inittab file found
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14:45<EmleyMoor>To enable all mail to username-* to reach username's filter, do I merely need to add the two local_part_suffix related lines in /etc/exim4/conf.d/router and reconfigure?
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14:46<jose_figue>buenas a todos soy nuevo en este chat y bueno me gustaria aprender un poco y ayudar en lo que pueda gracias
14:47<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
14:47<Gingetsuryuu>Is it even possible to install Java 6 in Debian? Before I even try to go on?
14:48<fxiny>jre ?
14:48<VTommyB>anyone can help with with Init: No inittab file found?
14:48<Gingetsuryuu>jre would be sufficient, but it would be nice if I can install jdk aswell
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14:50<fxiny>i wanted to play with update-alternatives so i installed sun java 6 on etch , that's the only reason . iirc bpo offers jre6
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14:54<EmleyMoor>Hmmmm... the answer is no... so, how do I implement this?
14:56<EmleyMoor>Is there any way to see what exim is actually using, config-wise?
14:59<fxiny>gcs: you can easily split your mbox as in man formail > examples
14:59<EmleyMoor>How do I enable the acceptance of mail with a -suffix on the address?
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15:02<fxiny>not using exim anymore . exim bible-sized faq could help
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15:03<VTommyB>anyone know of any tools to repair partition of linux
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15:03<gcs>fxiny: Yes, I can split, that's fine. But how do I repost them? Mean: it was a catchall mailbox, but now I could restore users, so would like to post messages to them.
15:03<fxiny>gpart ?
15:03<VTommyB>i got gpart
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15:03<VTommyB>but partition showing has unknown
15:04<fxiny>VTommyB: recovering lost partitions ? gpart
15:04<gcs>fxiny: I need the original recipient address from the mails and post messages to their owners thru the local SMTP.
15:04<VTommyB>where can i get gpart?
15:04<VTommyB>i have gparted with my boot cd not the same rigth?
15:05<fxiny>gcs: dunno if grepmail can help you , i used to split/convert mboxes and grep into mail long ago
15:06<fxiny>VTommyB: gpart is in debian since ages
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15:06<fxiny>VTommyB: apt-cache show gpart
15:07<fxiny>VTommyB: g(guess)part(ition)
15:07<EmleyMoor>I can't work out how to get suffixed addresses recognised.
15:08<EmleyMoor>Is it possible to see what config exim is currently running with?
15:09<fxiny>EmleyMoor: i still keep exim config : /etc/exim4
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15:09<VTommyB>showing has unknow partition :-( what can be done?
15:09<EmleyMoor>fxiny: That's what is desired... not what is "run with"
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15:13<fxiny>EmleyMoor: are you after greylisting or what ?
15:13<fxiny>fighting spam is not that easy
15:13<EmleyMoor>I am after "suffixed addresses" - so that when I need to give an address, I can give effectively a new one and see if it leaks out
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15:16<EmleyMoor>I might have done it
15:16<fxiny>how ? :)
15:16<EmleyMoor>Needs options added in local_user as well
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15:17<CrazyFoam>in apt preferences, what is the format of the Package line, shell glob? regex? can i put multiple packages on a single pin entry?
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15:30<CrazyFoam>eh i guess not, tried a few combinations in preferences, * seems to be the only glob
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15:41<sds>Hi, I've not been able to play AAC (*.m4a) audio files through Xine lately. I'm wondering if this is a Xine problem, or a distro problem; I'm running Debian testing here.
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15:49<noob11>Hi, got at little problem installing debian (etch) here. I've setup pxe boot and manage to boot, and get the installer to connect and recive packages (yay), but when trying to install I get the message that No disk drive was detected. I think this may be the jmicron JMB368 pata on my asus p5e-vm do (intel q35 chipset) motherboard. I've got 1 IDE disk connected, nothing else. I've tried the jmicron driver in the suggested list of drivers, but n
15:49<jose_figue>buenas porfa alguien me puede decir como se llama el editor de diagrama para debian
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15:50<Tarca1>Does the BIOS show the drive is detected?
15:50<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
15:50<noob11>there is a seperate jmicron bios thingy that do detect my drive
15:51<Tarca1>so it is detected before the PXE loads?
15:52<Tarca1>hmm... I know the q35 is a newer chipset. Does the installer kernel that you're using support it?
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15:53<noob11>don't know, but it does find the networkcard etc
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15:53<noob11>I'm using the netboot files I got from the debian site.
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15:53<Tarca1>what kernel is it? (at the command prompt, type "uname -a" if you don't know)
15:54<maex>@noob11 sorry, can you repeat the problem (just entered)
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15:54<noob11>Hi, got at little problem installing debian (etch) here. I've setup pxe boot and manage to boot, and get the installer to connect and recive packages (yay), but when trying to install I get the message that No disk drive was detected. I think this may be the jmicron JMB368 pata on my asus p5e-vm do (intel q35 chipset) motherboard. I've got 1 IDE disk connected, nothing else. I've tried the jmicron driver in the suggested list of drivers, but n
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15:55<noob11>that was question :)
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15:56<maex>you can switch to a terminal while installer has started via ALT-STRG- [1..9]
15:56<noob11>yes, what do you want me to run?
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15:56<maex>there you can see weather there is a /dev/hda or whatever
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15:57<DJBloodSkin>i used apt-get install to install xorg. what is the command to reconfigure it in the current stable release?
15:57<maex>and you can at least "play" with the modules a little bit
15:57<maex>@DJBloodSkin "dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
15:58<DJBloodSkin>thank you
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15:58<maex>@DJBloodSkin my be you have to replace the 'xorg' with a string like xorg-xserver or sth
15:58<noob11>oki, bear in mind that I'm a bit of a noob. Seems I don't have anything except a drives file under /proc/ide
15:59<XYZ-Saft>I just installed compiz from synaptics, where can i change effects, settings?
15:59<maex>noob11 that might be ok... i'm not shure...
16:00<maex>XYZ-Saft install css too
16:00<noob11>maex: I just greped dmesg for hda and I got a line for ide0 and some info
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16:00<maex>XYZ-Saft sorry, csm (compiz-settings-manager)
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16:01<noob11>"BM-DMA at 0xd400-0xd407, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA" is that is any help
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16:02<maex>noob11 well, everything should work... do you have /dev/hda? (I think you get this messega even with no hdisk because it mentions the controller)
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16:02<maex>noob11 does your bios recognize your hard disk?
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16:03<noob11>it states what kinda disk it is and size so I assume it does :)
16:03<maex>noob11 is there a /dev/hda ?
16:05<noob11>no, /proc/ide don't have anything but a drivers file. I just puttied into my router boks and there it got hda and ide0 under /proc/ide
16:05<noob11>(the ruter runs trustix tho, but I assume its a similar setup in /proc)
16:06<maex>noob11 /dev/hda is more importand than /proc/ide for the installer process; i think udev is not even loaded at installers stage
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16:07<maex>"ls /dev/hd*"
16:07<noob11>oki, no hda
16:07<noob11>or any hd*
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16:07<maex>noob11 strange...
16:08<maex>noob11 what kind of pata hard disk is it?
16:08<noob11>maex: a western digaital 320GB
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16:09<maex>noob11 and the bios detects it as an WD?
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16:09<noob11>and its set as master/single drive and I've tried two diffrent IDE cables :)
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16:10<patrick295767>Hello / Bonjour / Gute Abend !
16:10<noob11>Hi patrick :)
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16:11<fares[2]>bonjours patrick
16:11<maex>noob11 i tried the netboot files with pxe last week and the installation worked without any problems...
16:12<noob11>maex: from what I've gathered googleing the problem might be in the jmicron JMB368 pata controller. Seems intel dropped pata support in the q35 chipset, thus forcing manefactors to use 3d party controllers for IDE support.
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16:14<maex>noob11 but considering yor dmesg the kernel seems to detects the controler
16:14<Tarca1>noob11: I just remembered that when I installed my server (p33 chipset) I couldn't use the default installer options. Start the installer over again, and instead of using the default "install" command, type: "install generic.all_generic_ide=1"
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16:14<noob11>Tarca1: I'll try that
16:14<Tarca1>In my case, it was that it couldn't detect the install media (IDE CD-ROM) but I suspect that the same thing will fix your issue.
16:15<noob11>I had that problem. Thats why I'm doing pxe boot now :)
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16:15<Tarca1>You can probably try it from the CD using that option. Don't know which would be faster, probably the CD.
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16:16<Markjuh>recently I updated from kernel 2.6.22-3 to 2.6.24-1 (in sid)... since the update, my monitor gives an "out-of-sync" message when I start Xorg... any ideas?
16:17<noob11>Tarca1: I'd have to reconnect the CDrom then. I'm on a 25Mbit line so it should be fast enough :)
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16:17<Tarca1>If it's not, you're spoiled. Even if it is enough, you're still spoiled. :-P
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16:19<sds>I'm running lenny; how do I get apt-get to grab just a couple of packages from sid? I've seen it before, I just can't find how.
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16:20<noob11>Tarca1: bleh, no luck. Still won't find the disk :/
16:20<Tarca1>did it accept the directive?
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16:21<noob11>atleast it didn't say anything was wrong
16:21<Tarca1>disappointing. Sorry about that.
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16:22<XYZ-Saft>where can i find compizconfig-settings-manager? cant find it in synaptics
16:22<noob11>no worries, I've been at this a while. But, I'm out of stuff to try. So, I hoped I could get some new ideas in here. You did that :)
16:23<maex>XYZ-Saft "compizconfig-settings-manager" is in "testing"
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16:23<mzhang>Can grub be installed on a logical partition (which will be then mounted to /boot)?
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16:24<maex>mzhang should work; just try
16:26<XYZ-Saft>downloaded compizconfig-settings-manager_0.6.1~git20071020.27380acc-1_i386.deb, is dpkg -i correct way to install it?
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16:27<maex>XYZ-Saft just do it
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16:33<noob11>hmm, using a usb external disk. I'm going to try that. Might bypass the whole IDE problem :)
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16:42<Shiny>I have an issue, I am unable to run php scripts that connect to my mySQL database
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16:42<Shiny>I have apache running also
16:42<Shiny>any solutions?
16:43<maex>Shiny very funny...
16:43<maex>Shiny any details, logs...?
16:43<Shiny>I do not have any detailed logs, but I simply can not connect to my server with a php script
16:43<Shiny>so Im guessing my apache is setup wrong
16:44<maex>Shiny i don't think so
16:44<Shiny>and if you happen to type my IP on can see my printer info though a WAN connection
16:44<Shiny>maex: then what is setup wrong?
16:44<maex>Shiny what's the php script telling you?
16:45<Shiny>Connection error, press back and check your MySQL host, user, password.
16:45<Shiny>and why does it matter this is a script I i wrote that there >_>
16:45<maex>Shiny does mysql allow access from localhost? have you install phpmyadmin to check the settings?
16:45<Shiny>and no nothing is wrong with the's been tested well
16:46<Shiny>all info is exact
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16:48<maex>phpmyadmin does work?
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16:49<maex>Shiny can you connect to mysql via mysql console client?
16:50<Shiny>sorry you need to tell me that in a noob term
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16:50<maex>Shiny grrr... whats ybout phpmyadmin?
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16:51<Shiny>what's my phpadmin?
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16:51<Shiny>what are you asking me lol
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16:54<maex>Shiny phpmyadmin is a webinterface for administrating your mysql db; you might have to set access rights in your db to be able to access via your php script
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16:54<maex>Shiny and this can be done with phpmyadmin
16:54<Shiny>how do I go by this
16:54<maex>Shiny install it
16:54<Shiny>isntall what?
16:54<Shiny>I have those
16:55<maex>Shiny can you access to the webinterface?
16:55<Shiny>well a GUI yes
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16:55<Shiny>im using MySQL query browser
16:56<maex>Shiny no, regular browser, access to the phpmyadmin interface
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16:56<Shiny>hmm then I need it
16:57<Shiny>aptitude install phpmyadmin
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16:57<maex>and then you might have to set up apache for the page; may be its done automatically, i don't remember
16:57<mzhang>if I create a NTFS logical partition under linux, will Windows XP recognize it?
16:58<Shiny>done maex
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16:59<maex>mzhang wy do you create a ntfs partition under linux? remember: creationing the partition does not automatically format it to ntfs
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17:00<maex>Shiny is http://localhost/phpmyadmin working?
17:01<mzhang>maex: I know, but I have to organize the partition table under linux.
17:01<mzhang>maex: I will format the ntfs partition later, or use ntfs-3g.
17:01<maex>mzhang should work...
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17:02<Shiny>maex : no I see my router login screen
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17:03<maex>Shiny wtf
17:03<Shiny>but Im sure this doesn't solve the apache issue?
17:03<Shiny>..or does it?
17:04<mzhang>maex: thanks.
17:04<maex>Shiny get a login screen? try the same login data you used in your php script. this should fail ;)
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17:05<Shiny>im in
17:05<maex>what "server" are you trying to connect to from your php script? localhost?
17:06<Shiny>I put my IP in there
17:06<Shiny>that's what I've always done
17:06<maex>try localhost; the ip might be blocked by default
17:06<maex>but you can change this (via phpmyadmin ;) )
17:06<Shiny>but the script is hosted through a different server
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17:06<Shiny>it's on a web host that I pay for
17:07<Shiny>so localhost will not work
17:07<maex>shiny wtf; so the script can't even access to the mysql server because of the router?
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17:07<Shiny>it can not be the router
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17:07<Shiny>it's the apache most likely
17:08<maex>shiny or are the machines in the same net?
17:08<Shiny>what do you mean?
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17:09<Shiny>ok maex, if I wanted to host the php on my machine
17:09<maex>shiny apache normaly should not care about what php does with mysql db's; but php5-mysql is installed, in't it?
17:09<Shiny>where would I place them
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17:09<Shiny>I want to see if it works
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17:10<maex>Shiny ?
17:10<Shiny>where do I place my php script so it can be accessed through internet?
17:10<maex>apache and mysql is running on different machines?
17:11<Shiny>but my php is on a different machine
17:11<maex>Shiny this does not work, it has to be in a
17:11<maex>Shiny apache directory
17:12<Shiny>oh I see
17:12<Shiny>can you tell me the path to the directory?
17:12<maex>Shiny whats your goal? you want a local web page with a php script?
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17:14<Shiny>no I just want this ONE php script to run so users can input somedata to my database
17:14<maex>without web interface? i don't get it...
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17:17<PatM>Its been a long time since I did any php/db stuff but everything I did was an html webpage with php embedded in it or a php script with html embedded in it. Either way, it had to exist on the web serving machine
17:17<sander>Anyone know why I cant find miro trough apt-get on lenny?
17:17<sander>On it says it should be there.
17:18<sander>Maybe I need to add some parameters to my apt mirrors?
17:18<sander>atm I have: deb lenny main contrib non-free
17:18<maex>sander its in "unstable"
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17:19<sander>is lenny unstable?
17:19<PatM>Nope, testing
17:19<maex>sander no
17:19<sander>whats the name of unstable?
17:19<PatM>That messed me up bigtime when I first installed too ;)
17:19<maex>it wokrs
17:19<sander>so unstable has no distribution name?
17:20<maex>yes, but "unstable" as name works too, can't remember the name
17:20<PatM>I'm running sid. Have been for about a month. Unstable == sid
17:20<sander>on miro's home page it says: Miro is available for Debian lenny and sid. To install, run: apt-get install miro
17:20<chealer>sander: the page is wrong. miro isn't in lenny.
17:21<sander>chealer, ok.. maybe someone backported it then.
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17:21<PatM>From time to time I find packages missing. Often its because something that was passed to the more stable version turned out to be not so stable and gets puched back up a level.
17:22<PatM>Would anyone happen to know about debootstrap? I'm trying to get an arm filesystem going but both debootstrap and cdebootstrap fail during second stage on the target with essentially the same error.
17:22<sander>What was the site to search for backports again?
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17:23<chealer>sander: actually, the page is outdated. miro was removed from lenny
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17:24<PatM>Both are looking for /usr/lib/cdebconf/debconf which doesn't exist in either case.
17:24<maex>PatM whats the host machine? i386? is debootstrap working with i386?
17:24<chealer>sander: backports are not really for lenny
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17:25<maex>PatM i don't have a /usr/lib/cdebconf/debconf too but it was never needed...?
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17:26<Supaplex>~lart xen
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17:51<Joynal>anyone Gving free Fishes
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17:54<Ginetteann>Has anybody successfully managed to install Linux onto a PS3 system after the 2.0 firmware update and get the Wifi working?
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17:54<Ginetteann>Or can anybody point me in the right direction of somebody who will know?
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17:56<hackeron>woops, sorry, stupid keyboard :(
17:56<nonfatmatt>ok is there any good reason why debian won't set my time right even though I have the proper timezone in /etc/timezone and it's set to UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS - I need localtime
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18:04<PatM>Which version of debian? Sid's ntpd had problems.
18:04<PatM>I changed to openntpd and it worked fine.
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18:05<Supaplex>!tell PatM -about bts
18:05<Shiny>ah sorry maex
18:05<Shiny>im back
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18:06<Shiny>does anyone know where I need to place my php script to be read on internet?
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18:13<Fade_To_Black>Hi I've been running debian lenny for a few months now. My system has 5 partitions (used to be windows). I always used a small partition for windows as I needed to reinstall frequently and didn't want to lose data. And installed data, like music and films on the bigger partitons. Even programs went on those partitions. Now my problem is that my system partition is getting too small (only 16 GB) how can I configure debian to insta
18:13<Fade_To_Black>ll packages on another partition ?
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18:15<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Do you have a /usr partition?
18:15<Fade_To_Black>everything is on /
18:16<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: I strongly advise you to have /usr on a partition on its own
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18:16<azeem>EmleyMoor: why?
18:16<ranix>have you ever filled / before, azeem
18:16<Fade_To_Black>can I do that without having to install everything all over again?
18:16<EmleyMoor>azeem: Simply because it's big and where the bulk of the applications go
18:16<ranix>it's Bad News
18:16<azeem>ranix: /usr is mostly static
18:17<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: If you have a disk or partition with enough room for it, you can
18:17<ranix>oh you're right, azeem . I saw /usr/, I read /home/
18:17<Fade_To_Black>I have 16 GB for / 2 GB for swap and 3 times 100 GB for data
18:17<ranix>2gb for swap is not very useful
18:17<Fade_To_Black>I want to use one of those 100 GB partitions for my progs
18:17<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Can you relinquish a data partition?
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18:18<EmleyMoor>100Gb is more than too much IMHO
18:18<Fade_To_Black>relinquish? sorry my english isn't that great
18:18<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Give up, erase the contents of...
18:18<Fade_To_Black>yes I have one empty partition
18:18*themill accidentally fills both / and /home regularly.
18:18<chealer>Shiny: yes
18:19<themill>All sorts of programs don't like that.
18:19<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Is it currently mounted?
18:19<Fade_To_Black>why is 2GB swap unuseful?
18:19<Fade_To_Black>yes it's mounted
18:19<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: What kind of filesystem is on it?
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18:19<Fade_To_Black>my entire system is ext3
18:20<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Great. Have you got a largeish chunk of room on one of the other partitions?
18:20<Fade_To_Black>I think so yes
18:20<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Because I recommend using an intermediate space for this job
18:21<Fade_To_Black>so how shold I do this?
18:21<EmleyMoor>Do you have a live CD or something to hand as well?
18:21*dpkg eagerly does you have a live CD or something to hand as well
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18:21<Fade_To_Black>no I installed from scratch
18:21<Fade_To_Black>do I need one?
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18:22<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: To free up the space /usr is currently using, you will need some way of deleting it without depending on it
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18:23<Fade_To_Black>so please describe what I should do then
18:23<EmleyMoor>Anyway, to get started, cd to the partition where you have room to work (not where usr is going to end up)
18:23<Fade_To_Black>assming I have the live cd
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18:23<EmleyMoor>tar cvf usr.tar /usr
18:23<PatM>Hmm, here's an odd question. I have kernel and I have a filesystem on SD card. I know the console and root arguments for booting off the SD card but for the life of me I can't figure out what to use for init=
18:23<EmleyMoor>Let that complete, then cd to where you want usr to end up
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18:23<EmleyMoor>tar xvf /path/to/usr.tar
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18:24<shivraj_1>I have a linksys card that uses bcm43xx ..... its wireless
18:24<PatM>What I've been using always had a /linuxrc pointed at busybox. This is a debian arm with no busybox.
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18:24<Fade_To_Black>and then mount as /usr ?
18:24<EmleyMoor>Let that complete
18:24<EmleyMoor>cd /etc
18:24<EmleyMoor>vi fstab (or use the editor of your choice)
18:25<shivraj_1>should I use the bcm43xx cutter or is there a better way to do it in Debian ?
18:25<EmleyMoor>Change the mount point for that partition to /usr
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18:25<EmleyMoor>If you umount its current mount point then mount /usr you will have plenty of space for more apps... but you will also have the old /usr still occupied and hidden
18:25<Fade_To_Black>why can't I cope the contents to that partition immedeately?
18:25<dpkg>Let's see... it's because Bonzo doesn't want you to cope the contents to that partition immedeately.
18:26<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Using tar helps to preserve the permissions and copy symlinks and so on
18:26<EmleyMoor>Furthermore, it also gives you a temporary spare copy in case you hose things
18:27<EmleyMoor>You will need to use a live CD or similar to delete the contents of the old /usr in order to free space in /
18:27<Fade_To_Black>thanks for the advice
18:27<EmleyMoor>Just make sure the new /usr isn't mounted before you do
18:28<EmleyMoor>(it may be possible to use recovery mode to do it but DQMOT)
18:28<Stratman4300>hey quick question.... been awhile since i've used gnome.... what is a good graphical Archiving tool that is natvie to Gnome???
18:28<Fade_To_Black>If I tar /usr right now without live cd what will happen?
18:28<themill>Stratman4300: file-roller?
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18:29<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: You can do that without danger
18:29<Stratman4300>themill: ahhh thanks!! sounds familiar....just couldn't remember what it was called :|
18:29<Fade_To_Black>so I only need live cd for editing fstab without being booted in the system?
18:30<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: No, you need the live CD merely to remove the old /usr contents
18:30<Fade_To_Black>oh yes because it isn't mounted and ths not accesible
18:30<Fade_To_Black>clever again
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18:35<Fade_To_Black>another question : my /var/apt/packages/ contains a lot of packages I have installed, should I delete them ?
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18:36<amphi>Fade_To_Black: apt-get clean will remove them
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18:42<cesurasean>can someone help me for a second?
18:42<cesurasean>I need to recompile a program. whats the best thing to do with the currently installed one?
18:42<cesurasean>remove it manually?
18:43<Fade_To_Black>EmleyMoor, 100 GB seems rather big for /usr. Is there a way to just make a directory /usr on a partition and tell debian it's there? without devoting an entire partiton to /usr ?
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18:43<cesurasean>or just write on top of it?
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18:44<themill>cesurasean: what are you trying to do? Is this a debian package you're trying to replace?
18:44<cesurasean>installing qmail
18:44<shivraj_1>whats the easy way to install a linksys wireless card ?
18:44<shivraj_1>its bcm43xx
18:44<cesurasean>I had to patch qmail with some patches, and need to compile install it
18:45<cesurasean>already have a version installed
18:45<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Not really - though you could try symlinking - but with /usr, implementing it successfully can be difficult
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18:45<themill>cesurasean: ahh... this lovely game. Have you looked at the qmail-src package? Does that help you manage qmail? (I don't do qmail... just asking!)
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18:46<EmleyMoor>Put the contents in there (or in /newpartition/usr) and use a live CD to delete old /usr and symlink it to /newpartition/usr
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18:46<EmleyMoor>/usr will have access to all the space, but you can still use the rest for other stuff
18:46<cesurasean>and it qmail was installed using Plesk
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18:47<EmleyMoor>It's better to make it a partition proper, TBH, but if you don't have one of a suitable size, that's an artful way round it
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18:47<Fade_To_Black>how do I symlink from the live cd?
18:47<sander>Xine for lenny dosnt work.. comes crappy sound.. and black picture
18:48<themill>!tell sander about multiple ask
18:49<themill>sander: oh, and try asking questions rather than just complaining :)
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18:49<EmleyMoor>Fade_To_Black: Using a shell, get to where your hard disk proper is mounted, rm -rf usr and ln -s /newpartition/usr usr - at least in theory
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18:50<EmleyMoor>(don't, of course, do that if you haven't got the content where you want it)
18:50<Shiny>is this apache support?
18:50<themill>cesurasean: if you can convince something to uninstall the existing qmail, you're less likely to have trouble in the long run. You don't want there to be ambiguity about which version of some qmail-related utility or config file is being used if the old and new installations use slightly different paths.
18:50<Fade_To_Black>EmleyMoor, tnx again
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18:51<sander>themill, ok.. How can I debug xine to find out whats the problem with it?
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18:53<cesurasean>can anyone tell me what I should do with this install?
18:53<themill>cesurasean: did you get my last line?
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18:54<themill>[23:50] <themill> cesurasean: if you can convince something to uninstall the existing qmail, you're less likely to have trouble in the long run. You don't want there to be ambiguity about which version of some qmail-related utility or config file is being used if the old and new installations use slightly different paths.
18:54<themill>cesurasean: I wondered if you might have missed it.
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18:54<Shiny>I want to save a .html file under /var/www/ to see if I can see it through a internet broswer
18:54<cesurasean>yum is not even install
18:54<cesurasean>apt-get or yum
18:55<Shiny>problem is everytime I try to save it there it says permission denied
18:55<Shiny>any help?
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18:57<themill>cesurasean: ummm what sort of debian are you running?
18:57<cesurasean>it's centos actually
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18:57<themill>cesurasean: you really should be asking them!
18:57<cesurasean>linux is linux
18:58<themill>cesurasean: there's #centos on both oftc and freenode.
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18:59<themill>cesurasean: We have enough hassle with ubuntu and knoppix users thinking that what they have is close enough to debian that we should be helping them... centos is an entirely different beast and you should ask them.
18:59<themill>cesurasean: And thank you for wasting my time looking up qmail-src packages for you when they don't even exist under centos (but do in debian!).
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19:02<Supaplex>if I had a dollar for every time that happend, I'd retire now. :)
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19:06<Mr_Giraffe__>[18:57] <cesurasean> linux is linux <-- durrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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19:19<cesurasean>I just overwrote qmail, we'll see if it's still working.
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19:24<Mongoloid>anyone here running FLTK ?
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19:41<rrm>hi guys... what do i need to write to ntfs hdd?
19:41<dpkg>somebody said ntfs-3g was a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. It is available in Lenny, or through for Etch (ask me about <> for instructions and see Usage examples:
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19:43<Paper>anyone know what the program is that puts a bunch of statistics about your system right on the desktop background?
19:44<amphi>Paper: conky perhaps
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19:46<PatM>Dumb noob question. I have an arm running linux and I can't figure out how to get it to use the framebuffer as console. When I boot (no console= specific), I see the kernel unpack on the serial console then the kernel setting up on the LCD
19:46<PatM>When its done, the login shows up on the serial console again.
19:46<PatM>I've been googling but can't figure out what to change.
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19:49<daniel_>proud i got my dvb-t running with debian, i can view my channels but they really dont go flawless... is it maybe becaus i dont have my real gfx driver installed?? how can i see what video driver i got right now, and if its the right one vor my card
19:51<nevyn>daniel_: could be a signal problem.
19:51<daniel_>under windows it worked properly and i didnt change the antenna direction
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19:52<daniel_>i did install an ati radeon driver, but with lsmod, the column agpgart says via_agp
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19:52<shivraj>wooo hoooo
19:53<daniel_>is there something like a device manager under gnome?
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19:55<shivraj>daniel_ ... I just installed a wireless card .. thats windows this is Linux
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19:58<wolf>Hey, I am having a problem in ubuntu. When I start the system up it will stay black and continue flicker as if its trying to find a connection. Some times it will, some times it wont and it will stay black. If it does show something the system doesnt work correctly
19:58<Killer>you speak portuguese??
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19:59<Killer>que bom
19:59<daniel_>well i will plug in my nvidia card, their installers work far better then ATI ones -.-
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19:59<wolf>voce de brazil?
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19:59<Killer>sou sim
19:59<Killer>e voce de onde é?
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19:59<wolf>estados unidos, arizona
20:00<Killer>e oce é programador??
20:00<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
20:00<wolf>desculpe, brb :P
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20:01<vex> fails for me
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20:01<vex>not sure which channel I should be in to inform the correct parties, and if people are already aware, but. yeah.
20:02<Hessophanes>Works for me...
20:02<themill>vex: in what way does it fail? 404? server not found? can't log in?
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20:02<Shiny>can I please get some help with my apache
20:02<Shiny>I've been asking for the longest time for help here..
20:03<vex> uses an invalid security certificate.
20:03<vex>The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted.
20:03<vex>(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)
20:03<vex>i'm using firefox 3.0 b 5 (heh)
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20:08<vex>Hessophanes: / themill: so it was just me?
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20:08<themill>vex: I heard something about ff3 changing the way self-signed certs are handled....
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20:09<vex>you're right
20:09<Hessophanes>vex: The cert of is issued by SPI...
20:09<Hessophanes>vex: the ca-certificates package contains that cert. It's up to you whether you want to trust that one. ;)
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20:23<Shiny>where do I host my php files so that it can be read through a internet browser
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20:23<Shiny>is it /var/www/?..I can not save anything there since it says permission denied
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20:24<themill>Shiny: /var/www is owned by root in the default setup
20:24<Shiny>how would I host my php files so I can use the to add data to my mySQL database the mill
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20:28<Shiny>it seems everytime you put my ip on a URL it shows my router login
20:28<Shiny>I want it to excecute a php script
20:28<Shiny>where do I place it
20:29<themill>Shiny: in /var/www. You will need to give yourself permission to do so first though.
20:29<Shiny>how so?
20:29<Shiny>by login as root?
20:29<Shiny>I did that themill
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20:29<Shiny>is there any other way that I am not aware off O_o
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20:32<BadThing>need help
20:32<Shiny>yes I do
20:32<BadThing>i want know who can I install ircd
20:34<abrotman>apt-cache search ircd .. pick one .. install it
20:34<Shiny>how do I give my self permisson to add files to var/www/
20:34<Shiny>if its login as root in terminal .. did that
20:34<BadThing>i did
20:35<abrotman>BadThing: do not msg me
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20:35<BadThing>lsn this is the first time to do that , can u help me step by step !?
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20:36<dpkg>Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference)
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20:38<themill>dpkg: g'night
20:38<dpkg>Sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite :)
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20:40<Shiny>is there a apache channel?
20:41<dondelelcaro>Shiny: #apache on
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20:47<[Gork]>does anyone know how to get rid of GRUB?
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20:49<[Gork]>i tried installing debian , but when i started i just ended up with a non responding black screen , tried lots of shit but at the end just said "screw that" and deleted the partition with debian , but now GRUB keeps showing up on startup with errors
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20:50<Jmd>In my /etc/network/interfaces file, how do I set the DNS servers?
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20:51<Jmd>It didn't say anything about that in the man page for it.
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20:54<qq>JanC: dns-nameservers IP
20:54<qq>JanC: dns-search
20:55<qq>Jmd: : dns-nameservers IP
20:55<qq>Jmd: : dns-search
20:55<Jmd>What do you mean by that?
20:56<Jmd>like the parameters to set it in the file?
20:56<qq> how do I set the DNS servers
20:56<Jmd>Ah, right.
20:56<Jmd>but how do I set the secondary dns nameserver?
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20:57<qq>Jmd: add a new dns-nameservers IP
20:57<Jmd>Just add two entries for that?
20:57<Jmd>Ok, thanks!
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20:59<Shiny>can you help me with my apache
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20:59<cesurasean>qmail isn't delivering emails. any clues?
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21:00<qq>cesurasean: no, have to search them yourself
21:01<raulslacker>les meto la verga?
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21:01<Shiny>this is rediculous I ask help in apache
21:01<Shiny>they ask for my IP
21:02<Shiny>is there anyone here who can help me
21:02<Shiny>with apache
21:02<DJBloodSkin>whatcha need?
21:02<Shiny>pleaseee..Ive been at this all day
21:03<Shiny>well how do I host php scripts on my server
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21:03<Shiny>I want it to be so that it can change data on my mysql database
21:03<Shiny>it's a simple registration script
21:03<DJBloodSkin>i suggest following a lamp guide
21:03<Shiny>I did
21:04<Shiny>but problem is http://ip.address/test.php
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21:04<Shiny>even this doesn't work
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21:06<edward__>can anyone help me with ubuntu?
21:06<qq>Shiny: have you a public IP ?
21:06<Shiny>public IP?
21:06<DJBloodSkin>try /usr/local/apache/htdocs
21:06<edward__>have one tasbar and when minimize firefox doesn't go to launcher
21:06<Shiny>well when I type my IP on a URL
21:06<Shiny>it doesn't work
21:07<Shiny>it times out
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21:07<DJBloodSkin>to test on a local machine type
21:07<Shiny>ok it shows it works
21:07<Shiny>but how do I make htis public?
21:08<qq>Shiny: ping your IP works ?
21:08<Shiny>it doesn't work when you put my public IP
21:08<Shiny>yes you can check
21:08<Shiny>may I PM it to you?
21:08<Shiny>well it does
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21:09<DJBloodSkin>edit your apache.conf
21:09<Shiny>I looked through that
21:09<edward__>have problem when minimize firefox and can't find it
21:09<DJBloodSkin>its in there
21:09<Shiny>do you know what I need to be looking for?
21:10<DJBloodSkin>yea, the apache manual from the looks of things
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21:10<DJBloodSkin>did you even read the readme
21:10<Shiny>yes lol I did I've been at this for hours follwing guides etc
21:10<edward__>can anyone help me with a problem
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21:31<cesurasean>any clues why a qmail server won't send emails, our receive them? it was previously.
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21:32<cesurasean>I keep getting wrong user when I run make setup check for the script
21:32<cesurasean>how do I find out what the correct user is?
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21:34<cesurasean>instcheck: warning: .../man/man8/qmail-command.8 has wrong group
21:34<cesurasean>instcheck: warning: .../man/cat8/qmail-command.0 has wrong owner
21:34<cesurasean>instcheck: warning: .../man/cat8/qmail-command.0 has wrong group
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21:36<cesurasean>can someone help me fix my issue?
21:36<edward_>need help with firefox browser
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21:41<mugwort13>Does anyonw know how to keep ppp from flooding the screen with messages in text mode?
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21:46<lucas_amorim>Hello, my system default language is english, I have just created another account for an user that wants me to set it up to portuguese... Tehn, how do I change gnomes language for an specific account?
21:47<BadThing>-bash: ./config: No such file or directory
21:47<abrotman>this is confusing?
21:48<BadThing>abrotman i want configuer my own ircd
21:48<abrotman>lucas_amorim: you have to generate the locale first with dpkg-reconfigure locales .. then you have set the environment variable for that user to change that language
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21:48<BadThing>cd Unrealx.x done
21:48<BadThing>but when i type ./config
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21:49<BadThing>the system tell me there no suck file or dir
21:49<abrotman>./configure maybe ?
21:49<BadThing>what i can do ?
21:49<BadThing>abrotman same result :(
21:49<abrotman>install an ircd that's already packaged and in debian ?
21:49<BadThing>no no wait
21:49<BadThing>You might want to run ./Config or provide some parameters to this script.
21:49<BadThing>./configure --help for information about this script
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21:50<BadThing>how i can run this file !!
21:50<abrotman>install an ircd that's already packaged and in debian ?
21:51<BadThing>unreal ircd 3.2.3 and i did tar xfz unrealx.x
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21:52<BadThing>the system make the files
21:52<BadThing>and next step should be ./config
21:52<BadThing>but there no such or dir what i can do to config my ircd ?
21:52<BadThing>no such file*
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21:54<lucas_amorim>abrotman: what enviroment variable would that be? "LOCALE", "LANG"??
21:54<rrm>hey guys the ntfs-g3 does not work on write? do i need to be root?
21:55<[Gork]>does anyone know how to get rid of GRUB?
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21:55<abrotman>[Gork]: why?
21:55<[Gork]>i tried installing debian , but when i started i just ended up with a non responding black screen , tried lots of shit but at the end just said "screw that" and deleted the partition with debian , but now GRUB keeps showing up on startup with errors
21:55<abrotman>[Gork]: you want the windows bootloader?
21:55<abrotman>lucas_amorim: i believe $LANG
21:56<[Gork]>i guess i do, since GRUB gives me an error and cant start with it
21:56<abrotman>[Gork]: use the windows install CD and fixmbr
21:56<dpkg>So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub" Also ask me about <dual boot guide>.
21:56<lucas_amorim>abrotman: thanks ;)
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21:56<abrotman>uhm .. wrong fixmbr
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21:56<abrotman>[Gork]: ignore what the bot just said
21:56<[Gork]>lol ok
21:57<abrotman>[Gork]: somewhere on the windows CD .. there's a fixmbr .. or google "restore windows mbr" or something like that
21:57<[Gork]>ok, thx
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21:57<[Gork]>`Butthead, do you know how to fix that black screen?
21:58<[Gork]>(stupid word completition xD)
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21:58<qq>rrm: no , nici una , nici alta
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21:58<BadThing>abrotman can u help me ?
21:58<rrm>qq: what...
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22:00<abrotman>[Gork]: i'd hneed more information
22:00<abrotman>BadThing: install an ircd that's already packaged and in debian ?
22:00<[Gork]>what other info?
22:01<abrotman>log information etch
22:01<abrotman>which video card .. stuff like that
22:01<[Gork]>how do i check the logs?
22:01<qq>rrm , you need a kernel which has a module for read-write or a built-in
22:01<BadThing>abrotman yes i did !!
22:01<[Gork]>i cant rlly acces the partition with debian from windows
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22:02<abrotman>BadThing: not if you're trying to do a ./config
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22:02<rrm>qq: and how do i get that to run
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22:03<BadThing>abrotman ok where i can get ircd that's already packaged and in debian ?
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22:03<edward_>can anyone help me?
22:03<abrotman>i told you before .. apt-cache search ircd
22:03<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
22:04<edward_>when minimize firefox disappears
22:04<edward_>firefox doesn't appear on taskbar when minimize
22:04<qq>rrm: do you have such a kernel ?, if not you have to compile one
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22:05<abrotman>rrm: there is a backport of ntfs-3g at
22:07<edward_>problem with firefox when minimize, on one taskbar
22:08<rrm>abrotman: i did that and still does not work
22:08<rrm>when i check the properties says that write is not on
22:08<rrm>when i click to check it in gnome give me an erros
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22:09<edward_>have ubuntu with one taskbar, firefox disappears when I minimize
22:09<edward_>can anyone help me?
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22:11<qq>edward_: you are on ubuntu ?
22:12<edward_>yes on ubuntu
22:12<abrotman>edward_: then ask #ubuntu
22:12<edward_>having problem
22:12<abrotman>edward_: then ask #ubuntu
22:12<edward_>maybe you can help
22:13<edward_>when minimizing firefox it disappears
22:13<abrotman>edward_: we do NOT support Ubuntu here, go to #ubuntu
22:13<abrotman>or #ubuntu on
22:13<edward_>how do u go there?
22:14<abrotman>edward_: /join #ubuntu
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22:14<abrotman>in your irc client
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22:45<aquaboot>Hi All. I had trouble getting system sounds on gnome 2.22.1 using lenny.
22:46<aquaboot>Lat night I got some good advice here on how to tackle the problem but found the following to work:
22:46<aquaboot>aptitude install pulseaudio-esound-compat
22:46<aquaboot>checked /usr/bin/esd to make sure it was symlinked to esdcompat- it was.
22:46<aquaboot>Rebooted and voila! All system sounds now play.
22:46<aquaboot>Just thought I'd share the fix. Cheers.
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22:48<cesurasean>can someone help me with a qmail issue?
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22:50<abrotman>cesurasean: ask #centos or #qmail on
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22:54<cesurasean>didn't know there was a qmail on irc.freenode
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22:54<abrotman>cesurasean: and you were already told to ask there .. please do not ask here again unless it's Debian related
22:54<cesurasean>qmail is debian related
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22:55<sudobash>hey when i am trying to install Americas Army 2.5 on the latest debian from cd and internet i get:
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22:55<abrotman>cesurasean: no it's not ..
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23:02<Shiny>excuse me but where do I place the documentroot in apache?
23:02<Shiny>the apache2.conf file?
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23:03<Shiny>or somewhere else
23:03<dondelelcaro>Shiny: /etc/apache2/sites-available/yoursite; then a2enmod yoursite;
23:03<dondelelcaro>Shiny: or edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
23:04<Shiny>how do I edit it dondelelcaro
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23:05<name>first time here, how to go to rooms to chat , any help
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23:07<DJBloodSkin>woo hoo my lamp server is set up
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23:07<DJBloodSkin>now to get rid of the unneeded junk
23:07<Shiny> me with my "a" on my lamp pleasee T__T
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23:08<DJBloodSkin>let me guess
23:08<Shiny>ok I want to place a php script to read off my mySQL db
23:08<Shiny>where do I place the script
23:09<DJBloodSkin>do you mean
23:09<Shiny>don't give me some technical term...just tell me how to do it >_>
23:09<Shiny>I have a php script
23:09<DJBloodSkin>where do you put files to show up in your browser?
23:09<Shiny>I want to use to add data to my mysql database
23:09<Shiny>where do I place the script so that it can be used by people to add data
23:09<DJBloodSkin>is that your question?
23:10<DJBloodSkin>try there
23:10<Shiny>I can't put anything there cause it says permisson denied
23:10<Shiny>and yes I am loged in as root
23:10<Shiny>through terminal
23:10<Shiny>is there any alternative way to save my Gedit files to that?
23:11<DJBloodSkin>and thats the *only* place your logged in as troot
23:11<Shiny>huh? all I did was su - on terminal
23:11<Shiny> there any other way to save data there
23:11<DJBloodSkin>your really new with linux, no?
23:12<Shiny>yes...yes I am
23:12<Shiny>like 1 week
23:12<DJBloodSkin>when you do su
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23:12<DJBloodSkin>that only gives you root access to the terminal
23:12<DJBloodSkin>not in gnome
23:12<DJBloodSkin>none of that
23:12<Shiny>so how do I give access to gnome
23:12<DJBloodSkin>log in as root at the log in screen
23:13<DJBloodSkin>im guessing your using this as a web server
23:13<DJBloodSkin>so i suggest proftpd
23:13<Shiny>I can't login as root in login screen
23:13<Shiny>when I put my root name it says denied
23:14<DJBloodSkin>i suggest you learn a little more about linux before you go trying to make a server
23:14<Shiny> please just tell me
23:14<DJBloodSkin>i dont even know where to begin with you homie
23:15<Shiny>ok thanks
23:15<DJBloodSkin>or else i would
23:15<DJBloodSkin>gimme a sec to think
23:15<DJBloodSkin>aka take a few hits from my home made steam roller
23:16<DJBloodSkin>i take it you use windows as your main os
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23:17<DJBloodSkin>reguardless i suggest proftpd for any lamp server
23:17<DJBloodSkin>then change your apache directories to your main user account
23:18<DJBloodSkin>something like
23:18<name>hi people
23:18<Shiny>how do I change the directory to my main iser account?
23:18<Shiny>please just tell me that
23:18<name>how to go to a general chat room
23:18<DJBloodSkin>something like /home/bloodskin//www
23:18<Shiny>yes yes..but where do I change the patch in apache to make it go there?
23:19<Shiny>all I want to know T__T
23:19<Shiny>*path in apache
23:19<DJBloodSkin>then google search
23:19<DJBloodSkin>cant find it
23:20<DJBloodSkin>its in the
23:20<path>why are they always calling me :\
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23:20<DJBloodSkin>actually i suggest webmin first of all
23:20<DJBloodSkin>it makes controlling your lamp a little more organized
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23:21<Shiny>...sigh ok
23:21<Shiny>how do I download this
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23:21<DJBloodSkin>edit that
23:22<DJBloodSkin>read the WHOLE thing
23:22<DJBloodSkin>then click apply changes
23:22<DJBloodSkin>provided you have webmin
23:22<DJBloodSkin>then apply changes
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23:23<Shiny>I don;t see etc/apache2.sites-available/default at all
23:24<Shiny>and how do I get webmin?
23:26<dpkg>webmin is, like, a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality.
23:26<simonrvn>ignore that. DO NOT TOUCH webmin with a 30m pole
23:27<Shiny>so what is it safe or not
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23:30<dpkg>fail2ban is a small python program that runs rules when people fail to logon after a certain number of tries. By default it works with <ssh> and <iptables>, but can be extended to whatever authentication and access denial system you're using. userspace for what iptables -m recent already can do without external programs.
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23:30<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, denyhosts is a Python script that analyzes the sshd server log messages to determine what hosts are attempting to hack into your system. It also determines what user accounts are being targeted. It keeps track of the frequency of attempts from each host. Additionally, upon discovering a repeated attack host, the /etc/hosts.deny file is updated to prevent future break-in attempts from that host. An email report can be ...
23:30<simonrvn>zakame: /msg the bot
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23:30<DJBloodSkin>ok so what do you suggest vs webmin
23:31<simonrvn>using an editor like normal people
23:31<DJBloodSkin>from 200 miles away?
23:31<simonrvn>it's called "ssh"
23:31<simonrvn>try it sometime...
23:31<DJBloodSkin>its called no
23:31<DJBloodSkin>i have sshd installed
23:31<DJBloodSkin>and use vi
23:31<DJBloodSkin>but webmin makes it all so much faster
23:32<simonrvn>s,faster,easier to get the box rooted,
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23:32<DJBloodSkin>not like theres anything important
23:32<l33t>hello, is here default irc server for debianers?
23:32<DJBloodSkin>and it takes a whole *gasp* 30 mins from clean hdd to full lamp
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23:33<DJBloodSkin>if anyone was to root my box they would just be wasting their time
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23:34<DJBloodSkin>why what
23:34<l33t>because you are using vmware or vbox?
23:35<l33t>or you have a 1024-char password?
23:36<l33t>i am glad to know, come on
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23:39<shivraj>l33t : yeah I think this is although freenode is big too
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23:40<l33t>is here better than freenode?
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23:40<l33t>freenode is getting worse than several years ago
23:41<l33t>but, oftc is still small as before
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23:42<Stratman4300>what is the prefered way to grant a standard user rights to mount a NTFS partition???
23:42<Stratman4300>you have to allow it in /etc/fstab correct???
23:42<Stratman4300>then set permission on the device itself???
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23:52<chealer>Stratman4300: yes
23:53<Stratman4300>chealer: i'm looking at the permissions on /dev/sda1... it looks like brw-rw---- what does the b stand for???
23:56<nevyn>as in block device
23:58<l33t>may i say i won't use ntfs-3g?
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