| --- | Log | opened Sun May 18 00:00:17 2008 |
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| 00:08 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hello |
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| 00:09 | <normalnick-kgb> | When it will be possible to do "apt-get update" last SSL/SSH bug ? :/ |
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| 00:09 | <normalnick-kgb> | im using stable |
| 00:10 | <vsmatck> | useful software is complicated, I wonder if what you ask is even possible. |
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| 00:11 | <normalnick-kgb> | but the patches (and deb's) are avalible. They are just not included into stable repository yet. why ? |
| 00:11 | <normalnick-kgb> | its technical issue ? or somthing else? |
| 00:11 | <diego> | hi all, I need help with a tv tuner |
| 00:12 | <diego> | I cannot detect it |
| 00:12 | <normalnick-kgb> | diego: what model ? |
| 00:12 | <diego> | its a hp express card hybrid ntsc / atsc |
| 00:12 | <diego> | comes with my dv9548us laptop |
| 00:12 | <diego> | it connects to a expresscard / 54 slot |
| 00:13 | <diego> | I cannot see it with lspci or lsusb ... :( |
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| 00:13 | <normalnick-kgb> | is your expresscard "working" under debian ? |
| 00:13 | <diego> | no, it works on windows |
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| 00:13 | <normalnick-kgb> | so first we need to get running that expresscard slot |
| 00:13 | <diego> | I dont know if express cards works on debian |
| 00:13 | <diego> | because I only have a tv tuner lol |
| 00:13 | <diego> | its only for that I want it |
| 00:14 | <normalnick-kgb> | diego: expresscard = pcmcia slot ? |
| 00:14 | <normalnick-kgb> | afik expresscard are supported under Linux pretty well |
| 00:14 | <normalnick-kgb> | so let me see |
| 00:14 | <diego> | normalnick-kgb: I guess, Im not really sure about that, i never had a express card ... so |
| 00:14 | <diego> | how do I check it its pcmcia ? |
| 00:15 | <diego> | normalnick-kgb: oh, and first of all, thx for helping! :D |
| 00:15 | <normalnick-kgb> | diego: it is pcmcia :) |
| 00:15 | <normalnick-kgb> | diego: It is that model http://shortlink.co.uk/sx0 of tv tuner ? |
| 00:16 | <diego> | no, its an HP |
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| 00:17 | <diego> | http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204697749&listingid=19383315&dcaid=17902 |
| 00:18 | <normalnick-kgb> | diego: could u provide me with some kind of numer (of model) of that tuner ? |
| 00:18 | <normalnick-kgb> | ohh |
| 00:18 | <normalnick-kgb> | thanks |
| 00:18 | <normalnick-kgb> | nvm |
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| 00:19 | <diego> | :) do you think its supported |
| 00:19 | <diego> | ? |
| 00:20 | <normalnick-kgb> | im checking... |
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| 00:22 | <normalnick-kgb> | sorry |
| 00:22 | <normalnick-kgb> | its not supported yet |
| 00:23 | <diego> | ohh :( , where do you check by the way ? |
| 00:23 | <normalnick-kgb> | google :) |
| 00:23 | <normalnick-kgb> | but wait |
| 00:23 | <normalnick-kgb> | let me check more |
| 00:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | no. sorry its not supported :) |
| 00:24 | <diego> | normal: lol, I used to work for google maps :P |
| 00:24 | <diego> | I was an intern |
| 00:24 | <diego> | google is nice ;) |
| 00:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | yeah. its pretty good tool ;) |
| 00:24 | <diego> | Im using debian testing, is it supported on testing ? |
| 00:25 | <diego> | what if I move to unstable |
| 00:25 | <diego> | I wanna watch tv lol |
| 00:25 | <diego> | :P |
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| 00:25 | <normalnick-kgb> | nope. its not about Debian but LINUX drivers |
| 00:25 | <normalnick-kgb> | there is not (yet) Linux drivers for that tuner |
| 00:25 | <normalnick-kgb> | driver* |
| 00:25 | <diego> | oh, I see, and just to know (for when the drivers come) |
| 00:26 | <diego> | what programs do you recommend for watching tv under linux |
| 00:26 | <diego> | and what about decoding paid channels ;) ? |
| 00:26 | <diego> | hehehe |
| 00:26 | <normalnick-kgb> | i dont know. i dont have tuner in computer |
| 00:26 | <diego> | oh, ok :), thanks for the help anyway ... I will be waiting for the driver :( |
| 00:26 | <Nemoder> | I use a hauppage 250 card for regular channels |
| 00:26 | <diego> | :) |
| 00:26 | <diego> | hauppage 250 ? |
| 00:27 | <diego> | oh, I dont want to buy another tuner hehe |
| 00:27 | <normalnick-kgb> | so just use Windows while watching tv haha :] |
| 00:27 | <diego> | I have a tv anyway , I just want to make it work :) |
| 00:28 | <diego> | ohhh, but thats not possible |
| 00:28 | <diego> | because HP came with Vista |
| 00:28 | <diego> | did you ever try vista ? :P |
| 00:28 | <normalnick-kgb> | Vista rockz ! ;) haha |
| 00:28 | * | vsmatck vomits in the back of his throat. |
| 00:28 | <Nemoder> | you should email HP and ask if there are linux drivers for that tuner |
| 00:28 | <normalnick-kgb> | yeah. its even worse than Windows millenium. (I like Windows system, but Vista just suckz) |
| 00:29 | <normalnick-kgb> | Nemoder: there are no drivers yet. |
| 00:29 | <normalnick-kgb> | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606987 [about that drivers] |
| 00:29 | <Nemoder> | yes, but if enough people ask about them.... |
| 00:29 | <normalnick-kgb> | i see |
| 00:29 | <normalnick-kgb> | good point mate |
| 00:30 | <diego> | well, actually I dont agree, vista is still better than windows me |
| 00:30 | <diego> | ;) |
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| 00:31 | <diego> | I used windows me a while ago lol |
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| 00:31 | <diego> | the best one is xp for sure |
| 00:31 | <pabs> | is there any way to get ssh -L to exit if the local port is already bound by another process? |
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| 00:31 | <normalnick-kgb> | 2000 was very nice. and 2003 too. but yeah xp was a good compromise between NT series and desktop windoze |
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| 00:32 | <normalnick-kgb> | pabs: from server or client? |
| 00:32 | <diego> | I didnt try 2003 |
| 00:33 | <diego> | :( well, no expresscard driver :( |
| 00:33 | <pabs> | normalnick-kgb: say from client localhost:20025 to remote localhost:25 (poor-man's SMTP Auth) |
| 00:33 | <normalnick-kgb> | "to remote localhost" LOL :D funny |
| 00:33 | <normalnick-kgb> | but ok |
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| 00:34 | <normalnick-kgb> | cant u run netstat on SMTP machine to check the status of the port ? |
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| 00:36 | <pabs> | hum, I guess so, or telnet. just hoped ssh would have a way to do it |
| 00:36 | <normalnick-kgb> | So log into server; list open tcp sockets list; if port is bounded by another process than dont run ssh. (or kill process on remote machine). |
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| 00:36 | <normalnick-kgb> | u can automate this of course |
| 00:37 | <normalnick-kgb> | simplest way ;) |
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| 00:38 | <pabs> | no, I mean on the client side, not the remote side, that is always up |
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| 00:40 | <normalnick-kgb> | 1. check if YOUR port (that u will want to connect) is open (by nmap in example), if yes then run shh if no, then change the port or wait for free port. |
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| 00:41 | <normalnick-kgb> | but im pretty drunk so dont belive me too much ;) it should work but im not sure |
| 00:41 | <normalnick-kgb> | haha |
| 00:42 | <pabs> | :) netstat -tnl + grep works fine |
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| 00:44 | <normalnick-kgb> | Anyone know what is socket size on Linux (x86) ? im googling that since 1h |
| 00:44 | <normalnick-kgb> | i mean size in memory |
| 00:44 | <normalnick-kgb> | per one open socket (tcp) |
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| 00:52 | <tervex> | !@#$%!$% |
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| 00:55 | <Requiem> | if my hard drive is plugged into SATA port 2, should it be listed as sda or sdc? |
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| 01:06 | <w4r1a0k> | hello |
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| 01:17 | <Nemoder> | Requiem: I believe it depends on how many drives you have plugged in, not just which port. But I could be wrong |
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| 01:25 | <Supaplex> | Requiem: sata/scsi devices/drives are listed in the order they're detected. |
| 01:25 | <freeagy> | igo 8 valaki? |
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| 01:27 | <DrThodt> | :D |
| 01:27 | -!- | DrThodt is now known as Mirybr |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | I'm making my first kernel |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | I removed support for everything but tcp/ip,dhcp,ipv6,ext3 |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | gg |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | -_- |
| 01:28 | <freeagy> | congratulation |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | yes |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | the first step in a long journey |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | to produce the first truely opensource dncs |
| 01:28 | <freeagy> | do you have sound? |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | no |
| 01:28 | <Mirybr> | stripped everything |
| 01:29 | <Mirybr> | I want to make this as lightweight as possible |
| 01:29 | <freeagy> | minimal is maximalism |
| 01:29 | <Mirybr> | aye |
| 01:29 | <freeagy> | :) |
| 01:29 | <Mirybr> | well |
| 01:29 | <Mirybr> | i want a truly minimalistic core |
| 01:29 | <Mirybr> | with support for like intel devices |
| 01:29 | <Mirybr> | ok my ultimate goal |
| 01:30 | <Mirybr> | is to develop a new cable platform |
| 01:30 | <Supaplex> | Mirybr: there's freedos for that. ;) |
| 01:30 | <Mirybr> | opensource linux based dncs/cmts/dhcp etc |
| 01:30 | <Mirybr> | pfft |
| 01:30 | <Mirybr> | freedos couldnt handle dncs |
| 01:30 | <Supaplex> | what's dncs? |
| 01:30 | <Mirybr> | its what cable msos use |
| 01:30 | <Mirybr> | to stream tv to you |
| 01:30 | <freeagy> | so you dont have compizfusion? :D |
| 01:31 | <Mirybr> | whats so special about it |
| 01:31 | <freeagy> | sysinfo |
| 01:31 | <freeagy> | upps |
| 01:31 | <freeagy> | os[Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.63GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 77.8% free] disk[Total: 188.0GB, 15.3% free] video[nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] |
| 01:31 | <Mirybr> | i still dont get it |
| 01:31 | <Mirybr> | whats so special |
| 01:32 | <Mirybr> | i just want to develop an off the shelf cable headend |
| 01:33 | <Mirybr> | for sub $500 |
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| 01:34 | <diego> | hi there, I have my wireless working with network-manager-gnome |
| 01:34 | <diego> | but I would like to specify a static ip |
| 01:34 | <diego> | and this tool does not let me change it and I cant get wpa_supplicant working alone for some reason |
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| 01:38 | <diego> | q |
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| 01:38 | <Mirybr> | wait to wait for an answer |
| 01:38 | <Mirybr> | way to wait* |
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| 01:55 | <ice9> | hello all |
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| 02:02 | <NinjaMan> | sysinfo |
| 02:02 | <NinjaMan> | upps |
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| 02:03 | <NinjaMan> | freeagy: what command did you use to output your system specs to the channel? |
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| 02:09 | <freeagy> | Ninjaman this is a plugin for xchat client |
| 02:09 | <freeagy> | name xsys |
| 02:09 | <NinjaMan> | freeagy: oic thx |
| 02:10 | <freeagy> | what is oic? my english is poor |
| 02:10 | <NinjaMan> | freeagy: it means ooh I see |
| 02:10 | <freeagy> | :9 |
| 02:10 | <freeagy> | :) |
| 02:10 | <freeagy> | ok |
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| 02:12 | <Mirybr> | how do i install my kernel.deb |
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| 02:14 | <Mirybr> | HOW DARE YOU INSULTS GOOGLE |
| 02:14 | <GoogleSucks> | I am Back |
| 02:14 | <GoogleSucks> | Because I hate it! |
| 02:15 | <Mirybr> | go to your live.com corner sir |
| 02:15 | <Mirybr> | good daye |
| 02:15 | <GoogleSucks> | Good Daye |
| 02:15 | <GoogleSucks> | Anyway I came to report Debain Works on iMac! |
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| 02:16 | <GoogleSucks> | Michael Brown? |
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| 02:19 | <Mirybr> | i seemed to have scared him off |
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| 02:22 | <bouhssini> | السلام عليكم |
| 02:23 | <Mirybr> | i agree |
| 02:23 | <Mirybr> | i didnt know i had that font installed |
| 02:23 | <Mirybr> | quick someone paste it and convert it to webdings stat! it may be a secret prophecy |
| 02:23 | <bouhssini> | arabic ? |
| 02:23 | <Mirybr> | yea |
| 02:24 | <Mirybr> | i thought i removed all fonts in this install of windows |
| 02:24 | <Mirybr> | well non english fonts |
| 02:24 | <bouhssini> | ok |
| 02:24 | <bouhssini> | u speak arabic ? |
| 02:25 | <Mirybr> | no |
| 02:25 | <bouhssini> | plz help >> C |
| 02:25 | <bouhssini> | C++ |
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| 02:28 | <bouhssini> | VB code <==> A = "Hello" & " Men" C++ Code <==> ????? |
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| 02:34 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 02:35 | <Gekz> | bouhssini: ##c @ irc.freenode.net |
| 02:35 | <valdyn> | C != C++ |
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| 02:35 | <Gekz> | that may be so. |
| 02:35 | <bouhssini> | ok |
| 02:35 | <Mirybr> | #include "./stdio.h"; #include "./string.h"; something to make a class { string A = "HelloMen"; } |
| 02:36 | <Mirybr> | something or other |
| 02:36 | <Mirybr> | go google c++ hello world |
| 02:36 | <bouhssini> | no |
| 02:36 | <bouhssini> | a = "Men"; |
| 02:36 | <bouhssini> | b = a + "Hello" |
| 02:36 | <valdyn> | bouhssini: http://anaturb.net/C/string_exapm.htm |
| 02:36 | <Mirybr> | you said & "Men" |
| 02:36 | <Gekz> | strcat(); |
| 02:37 | <Gekz> | Mirybr: no he didnt |
| 02:37 | <Gekz> | theres a space |
| 02:37 | <Gekz> | I dont like C++ |
| 02:37 | <Gekz> | I must prefer D. |
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| 02:37 | <Mirybr> | ok so |
| 02:37 | <Mirybr> | #include "./stdio.h"; #include "./string.h"; something to make a class { string A = "Hello Men"; } |
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| 02:39 | <bouhssini> | Vb ===> string & string |
| 02:39 | <bouhssini> | C/C++ ===> ?????? |
| 02:40 | <bouhssini> | php ====> String . String |
| 02:40 | <valdyn> | bouhssini: this is not a programming channel |
| 02:40 | <Gekz> | bouhssini: #c++ on irc.freenode.org |
| 02:40 | <bouhssini> | C /C++ ===> ?????? |
| 02:40 | <Borman> | oh... maybe google kernighan ritchie? |
| 02:40 | <Gekz> | Or we op spank you |
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| 02:42 | <bouhssini> | Vb == (A = "Hello Ali And " & "Ahmade") |
| 02:42 | <bouhssini> | C == ??? |
| 02:43 | <bouhssini> | A = "Hello Ali And " + "Ahmade" |
| 02:44 | <valdyn> | !ar |
| 02:44 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, ar is argon or a program to create, modify, and extract from archives (man ar), or in binutils, or argentina |
| 02:44 | <Mirybr> | A is a language? |
| 02:44 | <Mirybr> | sweet-ass |
| 02:44 | <valdyn> | !arabic |
| 02:44 | <dpkg> | hmm... arabic is Linux supports the Arabic language. See http://www.arabeyes.org/download/documents/howto/arabic-howto-en/ |
| 02:44 | <Mirybr> | binutils ftoldskupwn |
| 02:44 | <bouhssini> | ok |
| 02:44 | <bouhssini> | thank you |
| 02:45 | <valdyn> | !listkeys arabic |
| 02:45 | <dpkg> | Factoid search of 'arabic' by key (3): arabic ;; #debian arabic ;; _default arabic. |
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| 02:57 | <sas67> | morning |
| 02:57 | <sas67> | having problems with pureftp |
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| 03:02 | <NinjaMan> | morning sas67 |
| 03:02 | <NinjaMan> | what's up with pureftp |
| 03:04 | <NinjaMan> | sas67: is there a .deb for pureftp? |
| 03:04 | <sas67> | sory ninja |
| 03:04 | <sas67> | was on asite |
| 03:05 | <sas67> | im struggling to add an account to preftp and to get it to work |
| 03:05 | <sas67> | pureftpd |
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| 03:12 | <sas67> | it says user exists in ftp but cant use the account |
| 03:13 | <sas67> | it wont connect to ftp |
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| 03:25 | <R2r> | need help urgent balde server is reporting error "http 400" |
| 03:25 | <R2r> | need help urgent balde server is reporting error "http 400" |
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| 03:26 | <R2r> | padski |
| 03:26 | <R2r> | need help urgent balde server is reporting error "http 400" |
| 03:26 | <R2r> | need help urgent balde server is reporting error "http 400" |
| 03:26 | <simonrvn> | that just means invalid request |
| 03:27 | <simonrvn> | !tell R2r -about repeat |
| 03:27 | <R2r> | yeah tell me |
| 03:27 | <R2r> | what does invalid request mean |
| 03:27 | <rrm> | guys what is a good wm? flux is ok, but need something fast and simple... |
| 03:27 | <R2r> | the net works fine |
| 03:28 | <simonrvn> | oops, actually it means request not understood; it just means that the serve didn't understand what the client was asking for. you'll see that a lot on screwy clients like IE and various spam / email harvesting bots. |
| 03:28 | <simonrvn> | server* |
| 03:29 | <R2r> | ok so what do i do |
| 03:30 | <R2r> | sould i stop the "server_respond$requst-"400"" |
| 03:30 | <R2r> | this way my server will not diagonose or log http 400 request |
| 03:31 | <simonrvn> | wtf are you doing? |
| 03:31 | <suiside> | rrm: mostly a matter of taste, imho, fluxox is pretty much as fast as simple as it gets =) you could try blackbox or icewm. If you want ssomething different try a tabbed window manager like ratpoison or ion3 |
| 03:31 | <rrm> | what do you mean byt tabbed |
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| 03:31 | <NinjaMan> | R2r: it means the webpage can't be found |
| 03:31 | <suiside> | rrm: try one of them and see |
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| 03:32 | <simonrvn> | that's 404 not 400 |
| 03:32 | <NinjaMan> | simonrvn: oops my bad |
| 03:32 | <rrm> | where could i get ion3 |
| 03:33 | <suiside> | rrm: from apt of course |
| 03:33 | <NinjaMan> | sas67: does pureftpd require the user to exist on your system? |
| 03:33 | <simonrvn> | from the repos |
| 03:33 | <R2r> | rrm, wiat ill arrange it and give woy the link |
| 03:33 | <rrm> | apt does not have it |
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| 03:33 | <sas67> | think so ninjaman |
| 03:33 | <R2r> | rrm: wiat ill arrange it and give woy the link |
| 03:34 | <sas67> | accoun created and psswrod entered twice |
| 03:34 | <R2r> | its http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html rrm |
| 03:34 | <R2r> | http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/download.html rrm |
| 03:34 | <sas67> | but when connecting it says pass(hidden)connection lost |
| 03:34 | <R2r> | rrm: goto rrm, wiat ill arrange it and give woy the link |
| 03:35 | <rrm> | i am on the site |
| 03:35 | <sas67> | tried with flashfxp nd fireftp |
| 03:35 | <rrm> | but i do not know how to install those files |
| 03:35 | <R2r> | ok you found it |
| 03:35 | <R2r> | ok ill help you just wait |
| 03:36 | <R2r> | rrm: darcs get --partial http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/repos/ion-3plus/ type it in the termianl |
| 03:36 | <R2r> | rrm: darcs get --partial http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/repos/ion-3plus/ type it in the termianl |
| 03:36 | <rrm> | i am getting it with dillo |
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| 03:37 | <suiside> | R2r: stop repeating yourself please |
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| 03:37 | <R2r> | its my stupid irc client |
| 03:37 | <R2r> | its my stupid irc client |
| 03:37 | <suiside> | fix it |
| 03:37 | <R2r> | wait |
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| 03:37 | <R2r> | irc\ get-update ISSI |
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| 03:38 | <R2r> | ok its ok now sorry for that |
| 03:38 | <rrm> | is ok |
| 03:38 | <R2r> | its good |
| 03:38 | <R2r> | rrm: whats up now |
| 03:38 | <rrm> | hold on |
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| 03:40 | <R2r> | comming to my problem should i block requests wihich end uo in "ERROR 400" |
| 03:43 | <|> | :x |
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| 03:48 | <linux_guy> | rrm ? |
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| 03:49 | <r2r> | hello anyone there |
| 03:50 | <EmleyMoor> | No, we've all gone <g> |
| 03:50 | <simonrvn> | nope. we're all zombies |
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| 03:50 | <simonrvn> | we're all of weasel's irc bots. he speaks through us. |
| 03:50 | <simonrvn> | j/k |
| 03:50 | <r2r> | simonrvn you know my prob tell me should i block requests that end up in error 400 |
| 03:51 | <simonrvn> | why? |
| 03:51 | <simonrvn> | if they're not dosing the box, who cares. |
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| 03:51 | <r2r> | my server gets slow and lag goes upto 300+ |
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| 03:52 | <simonrvn> | load average? well then block those of course. |
| 03:52 | <r2r> | ok iam blocking |
| 03:52 | <r2r> | nope everyone got disconnected |
| 03:53 | <r2r> | ohh, its a bloody dam bot i'll just kill him |
| 03:53 | <r2r> | i hate these windows viruses now they even run on SMB |
| 03:54 | <r2r> | what you dead or somethin |
| 03:55 | <r2r> | hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllo??? |
| 03:55 | * | simonrvn mumbles something about "BRRAAAAINS!" |
| 03:56 | <simonrvn> | ask before you /msg people |
| 03:57 | <r2r> | iam soory |
| 03:57 | <r2r> | can i msg you? |
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| 03:58 | <r2r> | bye bye |
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| 03:59 | * | simonrvn is confused |
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| 04:02 | <daffyz> | hello |
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| 04:36 | <EmleyMoor> | My overnight backups worked this time - first time since the ssh upgrade - so that's another one conclusively sorted |
| 04:39 | <jaakko> | :) |
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| 04:41 | <EmleyMoor> | (across all three kinds of OS in use here) |
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| 04:42 | <EmleyMoor> | I will be decommissioning my only FreeBSD box in favour of a Debian replacement just as soon as I can get some more memory for it - what's in seems a bit dodgy |
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| 04:43 | <jaakko> | EmleyMoor: do you think debian needs more memory?? |
| 04:44 | <EmleyMoor> | jaakko: No - it just needs memory that works properly |
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| 04:56 | <jaakko> | I need to partition and format compact flash cards. How can I do that as normal user? Is it possible? |
| 04:57 | <jaakko> | It would be nice if I couldn't accidentally destroy my system :) |
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| 05:09 | <ariel> | hello all |
| 05:09 | <ariel> | does anyone know about website transfers? |
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| 05:11 | <jaakko> | ariel: what are they? |
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| 05:13 | <jaakko> | ariel: scp -r me@server1:/dir/* me@server2:/dir/ ? :D |
| 05:14 | <ariel> | what i mean is I have to move a website from one host to another |
| 05:15 | <ariel> | but i want to keet the existing host for my emails |
| 05:15 | <weasel> | so? |
| 05:15 | <jaakko> | ariel: generally you just copy the files to the new server |
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| 05:16 | <noorul> | is that not working? |
| 05:16 | <noorul> | it should work i believe |
| 05:16 | <ariel> | yes i have a new site and it works on the new server |
| 05:16 | <ariel> | but i want my domain to resolve to the new site |
| 05:16 | <ariel> | so far |
| 05:17 | <weasel> | so? |
| 05:17 | <ariel> | i have changed the "A" record (which turned out to =be a stupid move |
| 05:17 | <weasel> | why? |
| 05:17 | <noorul> | then you need to contact your domain administrator |
| 05:17 | <weasel> | it's what you do. |
| 05:17 | <ariel> | now all emails are lost |
| 05:17 | <weasel> | fix your MX record? |
| 05:17 | <EmleyMoor> | ariel: You need an MX record pointing to the mail server |
| 05:17 | <ariel> | i left that unchanged |
| 05:17 | <noorul> | or if you managed domain then you can point the entries |
| 05:17 | <ariel> | but it seems when u change a records mx is affected as the 2 are tied together |
| 05:18 | <noorul> | how come e-mails are lost by just changing DNS records |
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| 05:18 | <ariel> | Emlymoor thank |
| 05:18 | <jaakko> | ariel: how do you read your email, what program? |
| 05:19 | <ariel> | does that mean i go to the control panel of the new site and point it back to the old site's ip? |
| 05:19 | <jaakko> | ariel: is it connecting to the "old" server? |
| 05:19 | <noorul> | ariel: where is it stored? |
| 05:19 | <ariel> | jakko outlook |
| 05:19 | <noorul> | ariel: you need to change your MX records |
| 05:19 | <noorul> | ariel: if you want to use the old mailbox |
| 05:19 | <ariel> | the new guys dont offer mail support |
| 05:19 | <noorul> | ariel: with the new domain |
| 05:20 | <jaakko> | ariel: so make sure outlook is connecting to the old server, what ever its name/IP is |
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| 05:20 | <jaakko> | ariel: if you changed the name point to new address, outlook may connect to wrong address too. the emails are still in the old place. |
| 05:20 | <ariel> | when i do and mx lookup online i am told there is no record |
| 05:21 | <ariel> | which is consistent because the new hosts dont do emails just website |
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| 05:21 | <limi_styler> | hi |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | wer bist du |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | ??? |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | debian |
| 05:22 | <ariel> | ich bin englander |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | aha gut |
| 05:22 | <weasel> | limi_styler: english. |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | ja |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | was amcst du |
| 05:22 | <limi_styler> | grad |
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| 05:23 | <limi_styler> | was |
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| 05:23 | <noorul> | ariel: okay. now tell me whos is your domain provider |
| 05:23 | <ariel> | what i am scared of is that the emails are all lost as no mx records |
| 05:23 | <noorul> | ariel: and which are the two hosting providers |
| 05:23 | <@weasel> | this is not a social channel. it's a technical channel. and the language of choice here is english. |
| 05:23 | <ariel> | verio |
| 05:23 | <jaakko> | ariel: the mails don't get lost because of name. You just have to found the address. |
| 05:24 | <ariel> | artlogic |
| 05:24 | <ariel> | verio = old artlogic = new website |
| 05:24 | <noorul> | ariel: you are confusing a lot |
| 05:25 | <ariel> | not sure who they use but they gave me an ip for the new site |
| 05:25 | <noorul> | ariel: webspace and domain are two different things |
| 05:25 | <ariel> | so i change "a" record to new ip |
| 05:25 | <ariel> | now emails has gone bonkers |
| 05:25 | <noorul> | ariel: so your MX records are still pointing to the old mail server right? |
| 05:25 | <ariel> | yes |
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| 05:26 | <noorul> | what is your domain? |
| 05:26 | <panagos> | is there a way to have both qt 4.3 and 4.4 installed in parallel? |
| 05:26 | <noorul> | what do you mention as incoming server in you client |
| 05:27 | <noorul> | *your client |
| 05:27 | <panagos> | is there a way to have both qt 4.3 and 4.4 installed in parallel? because psi is having problems with qt version 4.4 |
| 05:27 | <ariel> | the truth is i am concerned with giving too much info (security wise) |
| 05:27 | <ariel> | i left nothing unchanged on the clients |
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| 05:28 | <ariel> | sorry i changed nothing |
| 05:28 | <ariel> | on the clients |
| 05:28 | <ariel> | they look for email on olddomain.com |
| 05:28 | <jaakko> | panagos: with dpkg you can do that, but don't know about your system.. :-/ |
| 05:29 | <noorul> | say for example your domain is x.com |
| 05:29 | <noorul> | do you have mail.x.com A record? |
| 05:29 | <panagos> | anyone know when psi 0.12 will enter unstable? |
| 05:29 | <noorul> | do you give x.com as incoming server? |
| 05:29 | <ariel> | yes |
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| 05:29 | <ariel> | in incoming server it is x.com |
| 05:30 | <ariel> | smtp is different as isp put restrictions |
| 05:30 | <noorul> | why do you want qt 4.3 |
| 05:30 | <noorul> | is 4.4 not backward compatible? |
| 05:31 | <ariel> | now x.com is asking for a password because i changed the a records and the new server does not support email |
| 05:31 | <ariel> | should I have used website redirection instead? |
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| 05:36 | <ariel> | welcome back noorul |
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| 05:38 | <dawid> | hello |
| 05:38 | <ariel> | Emleymore you there? |
| 05:38 | <dawid> | could someone help me with my debian ? |
| 05:38 | <dawid> | I have a problem with libc6 |
| 05:39 | <dawid> | is there anyone who could help me ? |
| 05:39 | <jaakko> | dawid: etch(stable)? what problem? |
| 05:39 | <dawid> | E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6 |
| 05:39 | <dawid> | I am using Lenny |
| 05:40 | <jaakko> | dawid: and when/where do you get that? |
| 05:40 | <dawid> | apt-get -f install |
| 05:40 | <dawid> | at "/var/cache/apt/archives" I have file libc6_2.7-10_i386.deb |
| 05:41 | <dawid> | when I type |
| 05:41 | <dawid> | dpkg --install libc6_2.7-10_i386.deb |
| 05:41 | <dpkg> | dawid: i haven't a clue |
| 05:41 | <dawid> | cl |
| 05:41 | <dawid> | A non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686 package was found. |
| 05:41 | <dawid> | It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation; |
| 05:41 | <dawid> | please remove that copy of the C library and try again. |
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| 05:42 | <dawid> | do you have any ideas how to solve it ? |
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| 05:44 | <noorul> | thanx ariel |
| 05:44 | <noorul> | did you solve it? |
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| 05:45 | <dawid> | could you help me with libc6 ? |
| 05:46 | <noorul> | dawid: did you upgrade from etch? or was it a fresh lenny install? |
| 05:47 | <cahoot> | dawid: you tried to perform a braintransplant on your system? |
| 05:49 | <dawid> | it was fresh lenny |
| 05:49 | <dawid> | sorry for my delay |
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| 05:51 | <dawid> | I installed a Debian 32-bit testing |
| 05:52 | <dawid> | could you help me with libc6 ? |
| 05:53 | <noorul> | testing branch is always a risk |
| 05:53 | <noorul> | if you have done a fresh install and you got this problem then you need to inform testing team |
| 05:54 | <dawid> | where can I find the testing team ? |
| 05:54 | <noorul> | testing can always break |
| 05:54 | <noorul> | also it is not a good idea to mess around with libc |
| 05:54 | <noorul> | why don't you point apt source to web archive and do distupgrade |
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| 05:55 | <noorul> | did you install debian without libc first? |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | no |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | I have installed |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | debian testing |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | it was iso |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | kde |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | 650MB |
| 05:55 | <dawid> | 1 cd |
| 05:56 | <themill> | !enter |
| 05:56 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
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| 05:56 | <grummund_> | Hi, anyone know if dhcpd can serve up a domain list for use in the 'search' directive of the clients /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 05:57 | <dawid> | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 05:57 | <dawid> | last, but least one - iso KDE I have downloaded and installed |
| 05:57 | <dawid> | so I think that libc was firstly installed |
| 05:58 | <dawid> | but something has crashed :/ |
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| 06:00 | <Hideo> | dawid: you probably should have done "apt-get install kde" after you installed debian, instead of installing from the kde iso |
| 06:00 | <dawid> | but I'm using kde |
| 06:01 | <dawid> | I haven't installed just kernel |
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| 06:01 | <dawid> | it was kernel with enviroment kde |
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| 06:02 | <micegio> | c'è qualcuno al momento? |
| 06:02 | <dawid> | english please :P |
| 06:02 | <micegio> | hi all |
| 06:03 | <dawid> | hello |
| 06:03 | <micegio> | with my debian I can see the partition only with the nautilus like root |
| 06:03 | <micegio> | why? |
| 06:03 | <Hideo> | what do you mean by "nautilus like root"? |
| 06:05 | <micegio> | I've three partition, I can work only with the file system, if I want to see the file in the other paritition I need to be root with nautilus and so I can see that file |
| 06:05 | <micegio> | sorry for the confusion |
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| 06:06 | <dawid> | show me |
| 06:06 | <dawid> | cat /etc/fstab |
| 06:07 | <Hideo> | micegio: are the other partitions fat? Were they mounted only as root? |
| 06:07 | <dawid> | do you mean, that you have ntfs partitions and you can't open them ? |
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| 06:07 | <micegio> | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
| 06:07 | <micegio> | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 06:07 | <micegio> | /dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 06:07 | <micegio> | /dev/sda7 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 06:07 | <micegio> | /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
| 06:07 | -!- | micegio was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 06:08 | <dawid> | and you would like to open ntfs-partition ? |
| 06:08 | <Hideo> | he got kicked dawid |
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| 06:08 | <Hideo> | wb |
| 06:08 | <micegio> | sorry |
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| 06:09 | <micegio> | the partition I can't see is sda5 and sda6 |
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| 06:09 | <Hideo> | !paste |
| 06:09 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 06:09 | <micegio> | dpkg: ok sorry again |
| 06:09 | <dpkg> | micegio: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 06:09 | <Hideo> | we didn't see the whole of your fstab file |
| 06:09 | <Hideo> | micegio: you can try to paste it to one of those URL's |
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| 06:10 | <micegio> | wait a momnent |
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| 06:11 | <micegio> | http://paste.debian.net/3388/ |
| 06:11 | <micegio> | it's ok now? |
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| 06:12 | <Hideo> | yes |
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| 06:14 | <Hideo> | micegio: what filesystem are they? |
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| 06:14 | -!- | Lenny is now known as Guest1583 |
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| 06:15 | <micegio> | Hideo: I don't remember. |
| 06:16 | <Hideo> | fdisk -l |
| 06:18 | <micegio> | Hideo: HPFS/NTFS |
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| 06:19 | <micegio> | Hideo: http://paste.debian.net/3389/ |
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| 06:20 | <Hideo> | micegio: ok, in the options part of the fstab file for those partitions, try adding "uid=youruserid,gid=yourgroup" in there |
| 06:20 | <Hideo> | then unmount and remount them |
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| 06:21 | <Hideo> | micegio: like so: "/dev/sda6 /mnt/win auto auto,user,uid=youruserid,gid=groupid 0 0" |
| 06:22 | <micegio> | nano /etc/fstab |
| 06:22 | <dawid> | why auto ? |
| 06:22 | <Hideo> | I dunno, he had it in there from before |
| 06:22 | <dawid> | should it be ntfs-3g, shouldn't it ? |
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| 06:22 | * | Hideo shrugs, may be it autodetects |
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| 06:26 | <micegio> | hideo: umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda6 from /mnt/win |
| 06:26 | <Hideo> | so unmount as root, and then remount |
| 06:27 | <Hideo> | are these usb drives? |
| 06:28 | <micegio> | how? |
| 06:28 | <micegio> | no there are partition of a sata disk |
| 06:28 | <Hideo> | how what? |
| 06:28 | <micegio> | how umount? |
| 06:29 | <Hideo> | as root, type umount /dev/sda6 |
| 06:29 | <Hideo> | make sure you're not accessing the drive right now |
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| 06:32 | <micegio> | http://paste.debian.net/3390/ |
| 06:32 | <micegio> | thank for all now I need to go see you later |
| 06:33 | <Hideo> | micegio: let me see your modified fstab file |
| 06:33 | <Hideo> | I think you might have modified it wrong |
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| 06:34 | <Hideo> | another thing I forgot, why do you have both sda5 and sda6 mount to the same directory? |
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| 06:37 | <grummund_> | what needs to be installed to enable java in iceweasel? and is it possible to have activeX? |
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| 06:39 | <Hideo> | grummund_: sun-java6-plugin |
| 06:39 | <grummund_> | Hideo: thanks |
| 06:39 | <Hideo> | and no, no activeX available |
| 06:40 | <grummund_> | grr. ;) |
| 06:40 | <grummund_> | my ip video server wants IE7 with activeX |
| 06:40 | <Hideo> | !activex |
| 06:40 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, activex is Microsoft technology designed to enable easier multimedia on the Web. ActiveX controls can be used in Java to create multimedia effects. Check out http://www.activex.org for more info. used for compiling insecure code off the net and downloading viruses, or now supported in KDE |
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| 06:43 | <Hideo> | that site is dead, someone should edit the factoid |
| 06:47 | <mastroquet> | see you later, people ;) |
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| 07:04 | <wea0> | I have a Problem with KPackage in Lenny: It doesn't show all available updates. |
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| 07:05 | <lex> | make aptitude update and if there're updated, it'll show you |
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| 07:12 | <wea0> | OK, so I run aptitude and it shows me 4 upgradeable packages. Then I run KPackage and it shows only two of them as upgradeable. |
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| 07:13 | <lex> | aptitude update |
| 07:13 | <lex> | thrn aptitude upgrade |
| 07:13 | <lex> | then* |
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| 07:18 | <wea0> | That would install all four packages just fine. Thats not my problem. My problem is: I want to use KPackage and KPackage does not show all of those upgradable packages. |
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| 07:25 | <Hideo> | heh, I wonder how many people here forgot to regenerate their client certificates to connect to OFTC |
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| 07:25 | <Hideo> | I know I did |
| 07:25 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hello |
| 07:25 | <Hideo> | hi there |
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| 07:26 | <normalnick-kgb> | When then SSL/SSH updates will be avalible via apt-get (on stable) ? why Debian dont include them to repository yet ? (its common practice ?) |
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| 07:27 | <Alik> | Hello |
| 07:27 | <Alik> | i changed by mistake the root chsh |
| 07:27 | <Alik> | how do i fix it ? |
| 07:27 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: if you have security.debian.org in your sources, they should already be updated |
| 07:27 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hideo: how i can check ? |
| 07:27 | <Alik> | Cannot execute /bin/nologin: No such file or directory |
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| 07:28 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: /usr/sbin/nologin |
| 07:28 | <Alik> | ? |
| 07:28 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: apt-cache policy openssl |
| 07:28 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: check the versions |
| 07:28 | <Alik> | i can't login with root normalnick-kgb |
| 07:28 | <erKURITA> | normalnick-kgb grep "security" /etc/apt/sources.list aswell |
| 07:29 | <klh> | http://packages.debian.org does not answer, is it same for you ? |
| 07:29 | <Hideo> | klh: yep, same here |
| 07:29 | <klh> | ok |
| 07:29 | <klh> | thx |
| 07:29 | <Hideo> | np |
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| 07:30 | <Alik> | anyone can help me please |
| 07:30 | <normalnick-kgb> | erKURITA: i have security repository enabled of course :) |
| 07:30 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: please type /usr/bin/env nologin |
| 07:31 | <normalnick-kgb> | and give the output here |
| 07:31 | <Alik> | ./usr/bin/env: nologin: No such file or directory |
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| 07:31 | <normalnick-kgb> | wtf ?! |
| 07:31 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: have u removed nologin program ? |
| 07:31 | <Hideo> | watch the first dot |
| 07:31 | <Alik> | i changed by mistake the root shell |
| 07:32 | <Alik> | no i didnt removed anything |
| 07:32 | <Alik> | just changed by mistake the shell for root |
| 07:32 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: boot in single mode, and edit /etc/passwd shell |
| 07:32 | <Alik> | now i cant loging with root |
| 07:32 | <Alik> | i can't login in single mode it's a remote server |
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| 07:32 | <normalnick-kgb> | though :/ hmm let me think |
| 07:33 | <erKURITA> | do you have sudo ? |
| 07:33 | <Alik> | no |
| 07:33 | <Alik> | not working sudo |
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| 07:33 | <Alik> | maybe i can just copy the command |
| 07:33 | <Alik> | will it work ? |
| 07:34 | <erKURITA> | why did you change the root shell anyway |
| 07:34 | <Alik> | by mistake :( |
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| 07:35 | <erKURITA> | you just don't change the root shell by mistake |
| 07:35 | <Alik> | if i'll d/l the sudo cmd will it work ? |
| 07:35 | <Hideo> | no |
| 07:36 | <erKURITA> | you don't even have root access to use apt-get |
| 07:36 | <erKURITA> | unless it's u+s |
| 07:36 | <Alik> | cant i su with a shell |
| 07:36 | <Hideo> | well can you? |
| 07:36 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hideo: In "apt-cache policy openssl" i have installed (SSL) 0.9.8c-4etch3 version. Does 0.9.8c-4etch3 = 4.3p2-9etch1 (withotu bug). Naming is pretty confusing |
| 07:37 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik |
| 07:37 | <normalnick-kgb> | Can u do: su -s /bin/bash ? |
| 07:37 | <Alik> | i'm asking if i can do it to login with a shell i mean like /bin/bash |
| 07:37 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: /msg dpkg dsa1571 |
| 07:37 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: try "su -s /bin/bash" |
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| 07:37 | <Alik> | still -> Cannot execute /bin/nologin: No such file or directory |
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| 07:38 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hiedo: Im reading that advisory since few days :) |
| 07:38 | <normalnick-kgb> | does Does 0.9.8c-4etch3 = 4.3p2-9etch1 ? |
| 07:38 | <Hideo> | I think it mentions the version in there |
| 07:38 | <Alik> | any other ideans ? |
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| 07:38 | <normalnick-kgb> | cos the diffrent naming is used in "apt-cache policy" and diffrent in secuity advisory :/ |
| 07:38 | <Alik> | ideas ? |
| 07:39 | <Hideo> | I don't know about 4.3p2-9etch1, but I know 0.9.8c-4etch3 is not vulnerable |
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| 07:40 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: um.. on mine apt-cache policy shows " 0.9.8c-4etch3 0 |
| 07:40 | <Hideo> | 500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages |
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| 07:40 | <normalnick-kgb> | hideo: same in me. |
| 07:40 | <normalnick-kgb> | so thanks. |
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| 07:41 | <Hideo> | k |
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| 07:42 | <Alik> | any one can help me ? |
| 07:42 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: no :( |
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| 07:43 | <Alik> | how come.. |
| 07:43 | <Alik> | there should be something i can do |
| 07:44 | <normalnick-kgb> | can someone explain me how it is possible that im running ssh server on Debian without "openssh-server" package installed ? LOL but i have "3.8.1p1-8.sarg Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)". and even funnier i can install (via apt-get) the openssh-server so this is the diffrent package. wtf ?! |
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| 07:45 | <normalnick-kgb> | and no, i dont complied ssh server on my own |
| 07:46 | <Hideo> | dpkg -l | grep -i ssh |
| 07:46 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching | grep -i ssh |
| 07:46 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hiedo :) I have just done this... ""3.8.1p1-8.sarg Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)" :D |
| 07:46 | <normalnick-kgb> | but im courios what is the "openssh-server" package than ? |
| 07:47 | <Alik> | can i changed something thru ftp ? |
| 07:47 | <normalnick-kgb> | some OTHER ssh server ? |
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| 07:47 | <normalnick-kgb> | hmm funny. its a sarg !! |
| 07:47 | <normalnick-kgb> | wtf |
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| 07:48 | <normalnick-kgb> | but the system is etch :/ |
| 07:48 | <normalnick-kgb> | hmm |
| 07:49 | <normalnick-kgb> | nvm |
| 07:49 | <normalnick-kgb> | i need manual upgrade :/ apt-get is worse and worse every year |
| 07:50 | <wnd> | there used to be a single package for ssh server and client. I can't remember when it was split. |
| 07:50 | <normalnick-kgb> | thanks mate. |
| 07:50 | <erKURITA> | !openssh |
| 07:50 | <dpkg> | openssh is, like, a free implementation of the SSH protocol that comes standard in Debian as package ssh (both client and server until post-sarge). Getting started with SSH : http://www.tac.nyc.ny.us/kim/ssh/ |
| 07:50 | <erKURITA> | !openssh-server |
| 07:50 | <erKURITA> | nuh uh |
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| 07:53 | <Alik> | how do i do login to root |
| 07:53 | <Alik> | ? |
| 07:54 | <Alik> | can i use the command login ? |
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| 07:55 | <normalnick-kgb> | Any ideas how i can FULLY do updating / upgrading on machine ? (the "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade -y;apt-get clean) is "not" working in all cases. do i need to force dist-upgrade too : / But then how to exclude installing unwanted stuff like X windows. and it should be AUTOMATED. (coz doing this manually is easy). any ideas or working bulletproff scripts for updates/upgrades running from crontab ? |
| 07:56 | <normalnick-kgb> | Alik: try. |
| 07:56 | <defcon> | normalnick-kgb, try aptitute full-upgrade |
| 07:56 | <defcon> | aptitude |
| 07:56 | <wea0_> | I have a Problem with KPackage in Lenny: It doesn't show all available updates. |
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| 07:57 | <normalnick-kgb> | defcon: why do i need gcc and gnupg when installing aptitude ? LOL "3 upgraded, 17 newly installed," |
| 07:58 | <normalnick-kgb> | its insane |
| 07:58 | <Hideo> | Alik: I guess if you don't have physical access to the server and can't boot up in single mode, then ... how about local root exploit |
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| 07:59 | <Hideo> | Alik: assuming, that is really your own server and all |
| 08:00 | <nandos> | hey any1 can tell me how to expand my /dev/hda1 patition to the full pysical size of my harddrive? |
| 08:00 | <Hideo> | nandos: look into cfdisk |
| 08:00 | <Alik> | yes it is |
| 08:01 | <twb> | nandos: two steps: first grow the partition, then grow the filesystem |
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| 08:01 | <Alik> | hmm where can i get local root exploit |
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| 08:02 | <Hideo> | Alik: that is outside the scope of #debian |
| 08:02 | <Alik> | hmm ok |
| 08:02 | <Alik> | i'll try to find something |
| 08:02 | <Alik> | tnx |
| 08:02 | <Hideo> | ok |
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| 08:05 | <Hideo> | twb: would you lose/corrupt data if you shrink the fs? |
| 08:06 | <nandos> | twd: thank you but how can i grow the partition? |
| 08:06 | <Hideo> | cfdisk |
| 08:07 | <nandos> | is it safer to do this with gPated boot cd? |
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| 08:08 | <normalnick-kgb> | gparted* |
| 08:08 | <Hideo> | nandos: a live cd would be better, so that you won't touch the partition while editing it |
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| 08:08 | <normalnick-kgb> | use gparted |
| 08:08 | <twb> | Hideo: not if you do it correctly. |
| 08:08 | <nandos> | ok tnx im downloading the iso right now |
| 08:09 | <twb> | Hideo: note that some filesystems, most notably xfs, do not support shrinking. |
| 08:09 | <Hideo> | twb: do tell, that's what I've always been wondering but never knew how to do |
| 08:10 | <twb> | Hideo: well, for ext3 you'd just call resize2fs with the appropriate size or decrement. |
| 08:10 | <twb> | Hideo: then tell LVM or fdisk that you want to shrink the underlying partition. |
| 08:10 | <twb> | Hideo: obviously if you have a 20GB filesystem with 20GB *utilized*, you can't shrink it to 10GB |
| 08:11 | <Hideo> | yeah |
| 08:11 | <Hideo> | how about for a fat partition? |
| 08:11 | <Hideo> | s/partition/fs |
| 08:11 | <twb> | Note that resize2fs can work online -- i.e. while the filesystem is in use |
| 08:11 | <twb> | Hideo: I believe GNU parted can resize FAT filesystems. |
| 08:12 | <nandos> | expanding the size of /dev/hda1 to the full size of the pysical drive wont make me loss all my data right? |
| 08:12 | <Hideo> | nandos: it shouldn't |
| 08:12 | <nandos> | ok |
| 08:12 | <twb> | nandos: changing the partition table only affects the partition table |
| 08:12 | <twb> | nandos: if you fuck up, you can just write back the old partition table (assuming you took a backup of it). |
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| 08:12 | <nandos> | the pt must be resize as well rught |
| 08:12 | <nandos> | *right |
| 08:13 | <twb> | nandos: you MUST grow the partition before you grow the filesystem |
| 08:13 | * | Skrat waves |
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| 08:14 | <Hideo> | twb: What if you have data at the end of the fat partition? |
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| 08:15 | <twb> | Hideo: resizing the filesystem includes rearranging the blocks |
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| 08:15 | <twb> | Hideo: however FAT may be an exception -- I believe one normally "defrags" FAT filesystems before shrinking them |
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| 08:15 | <twb> | This is because FAT is a very primitive design. |
| 08:16 | <normalnick-kgb> | can i blacklist some apt-get packages names (like x-windows or gcc*), to prevent installing them during upgrade (yes i know that i can exclude them on commandline, but i dont want do that) ? some file in /etc/apt/* ? |
| 08:16 | <Hideo> | heh, I don't know how to defrag fat fs in linux |
| 08:16 | <fxiny> | fat is pathetic ;) |
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| 08:16 | <normalnick-kgb> | fat32 is very nice. i have been running linux form it in old days :) |
| 08:16 | <Hideo> | twb: thanks for the info, nice to know :) |
| 08:16 | <normalnick-kgb> | coz it is possible |
| 08:17 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: not really, but you can do this: |
| 08:17 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: aptitude install foo xorg- |
| 08:17 | <fxiny> | there is a fat/pathetic factoid |
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| 08:17 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: which says "install foo and remove xorg", thereby preventing xorg from being installed by foo. |
| 08:18 | <normalnick-kgb> | hmm :/ thats not im looking for :/ coz i DONT know what packages i will be upgrading. but i KNOW what packages i dont want in my system (Ever) |
| 08:19 | <Hideo> | he wants to automate upgrade, twb |
| 08:19 | <normalnick-kgb> | bulletproff automate upgrade... |
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| 08:19 | <normalnick-kgb> | coz "basic" automate upgrade "is" working, but not nice since 2 years ;) |
| 08:20 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: I think a server is like a baby, you still have to keep an eye on it ;) |
| 08:21 | <normalnick-kgb> | haha. yeah. but i have run this "server" just few times in year. and i wish to automate upgrading (for fun) :] |
| 08:22 | <fxiny> | checkout apticron and cron-apt |
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| 08:23 | <normalnick-kgb> | wow |
| 08:23 | <twb> | Hideo: what he wants, AFAICT, is to upgrade everything that does not, by upgrading, cause xserver-xorg to be installed. |
| 08:24 | <twb> | IMO this is very stupid; after all, just having Xorg on the disk will not cause it to ever be run, and he is unlikely to desperately need to save 80MB of disk space. |
| 08:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | fxiny: "apt-get install apticron" 5 upgraded, 32 newly installed LOL. no i dont want it :] |
| 08:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | twb: |
| 08:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | /dev/hda1 3.9G 3.6G 121M 97% / |
| 08:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | haha |
| 08:24 | <fxiny> | normalnick-kgb: you running out at space on the "corporate" server ? :) |
| 08:24 | <normalnick-kgb> | 80MB is important ;) |
| 08:24 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: I have a 4GB disk, too. |
| 08:25 | <normalnick-kgb> | fxiny: no. its just hobby machine |
| 08:25 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: I can tell you that xorg consumes negligible space. |
| 08:25 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: you would better spend your time looking at debfoster and deborphan |
| 08:25 | <fxiny> | 32 is nothing , i went through the gtk2.10 compilation on my old box and hell how many dev i had to install |
| 08:25 | <normalnick-kgb> | twb: i use orphaner |
| 08:25 | <Hideo> | to minimize space, look into localepurge too |
| 08:25 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: OK. |
| 08:26 | <twb> | Yes, and apt-get (auto)clean |
| 08:26 | <normalnick-kgb> | i have :) |
| 08:26 | <twb> | I also make /tmp and /var/tmp tmpfs |
| 08:26 | <twb> | Er, /var/log not /var/tmp |
| 08:26 | <normalnick-kgb> | no u dont understand: my system is VERY clean. thats whay i dont want those X on that server. (and the system is small, the other files consume 90% of hd space) |
| 08:26 | <normalnick-kgb> | :) |
| 08:26 | <fxiny> | after one hour i had gtk installed in /opt , so now i can see how firebus3-rc1 performs on a old box |
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| 08:27 | <Hideo> | firebus? |
| 08:27 | <fxiny> | yes |
| 08:27 | <nandos> | ok boot-up with gParted but it wont let me to re size /dev/hda1 to the allocated free space |
| 08:27 | <fxiny> | iceweasel never hreaks but firebus hang :P |
| 08:28 | <fxiny> | breaks* |
| 08:28 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: IMO if 90% of your disk is consumed by non-OS data, it would be FAR more productive to spend time working out ways to reduce that data rather than the 10% of OS |
| 08:28 | <Hideo> | haha, why do you call it firebus? |
| 08:28 | <fxiny> | exactly |
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| 08:28 | <normalnick-kgb> | twb: i will not remove my mp3 collection ;) |
| 08:28 | <normalnick-kgb> | haha |
| 08:29 | <fxiny> | normalnick-kgb: start removing pr0n from var , we all keep them in var ;) |
| 08:29 | <normalnick-kgb> | i dont have porn on computer |
| 08:29 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: you could rerip it as vorbis instead |
| 08:29 | <normalnick-kgb> | when i need it i just download it ;) |
| 08:29 | <fxiny> | hehehe |
| 08:30 | <twb> | You could store the porn on a SAN |
| 08:30 | <twb> | It would be called "ecchi-san" |
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| 08:30 | <fxiny> | san ? |
| 08:30 | <normalnick-kgb> | twb: im not a geek, i dont have time to convert mp3 to vorbis to save 4% disk space ;) |
| 08:30 | <twb> | Storage Area Network |
| 08:30 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: not convert, re-rip |
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| 08:30 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: lossy -> lossy is evil |
| 08:30 | <twb> | There is a song about it |
| 08:31 | <Hideo> | lossy --> lossy = lossier |
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| 08:31 | <vmuser> | hello I have tried adding ICEWEASEL_DSP="aoss" to iceweaselrc to get sound but I seem to be unable to get sound from iceweasel and flash on boot the system does beep but makes no other sound but I am running a minimal xfce ...any ideas how to fix this? |
| 08:32 | <cahoot> | vmuser: run speaker-test in a terminal (alsa-utils need IIRC) |
| 08:32 | <Hideo> | do you get sound outside of iceweasel? |
| 08:32 | <twb> | vmuser: is there a sound card, according to alsa? |
| 08:32 | <normalnick-kgb> | i dont care. im not a geek. mp3 is fine for me. even it is not "Free" or other Stallman religion stuff ;) |
| 08:32 | <normalnick-kgb> | haha |
| 08:33 | <fxiny> | i wanted to check firebus3 on etch cause the egg-heads at google are telling me i am on a slow connection when reading gmail from etch/iceweasel . all of a sudden i got upgraded to a superfast dsl while reading mail with firebus3 , hahaha |
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| 08:33 | <fxiny> | why they hate etch users is a mistery to me |
| 08:33 | <twb> | fxiny: you could use gmail's IMAP backend. |
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| 08:34 | <vmuser> | twb using what utility yesterday i cat /dev/somthing to do with sound and it appeared to see it...no speaker-test produces nothing |
| 08:34 | <cahoot> | no error? |
| 08:34 | <fxiny> | twb: i've done a trick for sending mail using gmail smtp via mutt : mutt hook :) |
| 08:35 | <fxiny> | mutt rulez |
| 08:35 | <cahoot> | vmuser: (as root) invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 08:35 | <twb> | fxiny: mutt speaks imap and smtp natively |
| 08:35 | <normalnick-kgb> | hmm i know. maybe i will hack apt-cache database and i will just remove my "blacklist wish" stuff from there... |
| 08:36 | <vmuser> | cahoot that worked what did that do? |
| 08:36 | <fxiny> | twb: gog-magog should ring to bpo ppl , they are loosing etch customers . i'm alredy using yahoo |
| 08:36 | <cahoot> | vmuser: unmuted and set levels |
| 08:36 | <fxiny> | twb: yes , mutt speaks imap |
| 08:36 | <cahoot> | vmuser: the script is easily read |
| 08:37 | <vmuser> | thanks cahoot I will study that command till i understand it |
| 08:37 | <Hideo> | vmuser: the script is in /etc/init.d/alsa-utils btw |
| 08:37 | <vmuser> | oh i understand now thanks |
| 08:39 | <fxiny> | twb: send2-hook '~f me@gmail.com' 'set sendmail="/usr/bin/msmtp -a gmail"' does it |
| 08:39 | <twb> | fxiny: set smtp_url = smtp://gmail.com:submission |
| 08:40 | <fxiny> | the nice thing is gmail keeps all mail sent . handy records |
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| 08:41 | <fxiny> | twb: i have already 4 mutt profiles. i'm loosing my head :) |
| 08:42 | <fxiny> | twb: that "set smtp_url" above will work all the times ? |
| 08:42 | <Hideo> | fxiny: just end all your emails with "ali baba" and the NSA will keep records for you :P |
| 08:42 | <fxiny> | i want to use my isp and gmail |
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| 08:43 | <fxiny> | Hideo: hahah yesterday in chan there was some beim Laden which is something in german |
| 08:43 | <fxiny> | can't rememebr what beim means |
| 08:44 | <normalnick-kgb> | this is obsession about Bin Laden is funny imo :p |
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| 08:45 | <fxiny> | he's a revolting bastard |
| 08:46 | <fxiny> | Hideo: all my NSA records deleted :))) |
| 08:46 | <Hideo> | fxiny: well according to babel fish, "beim laden" is "load with", whatever that means |
| 08:46 | <fxiny> | Hideo: yes that was . really . yesterday in chan |
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| 08:47 | <fxiny> | Hideo: a borked/sopped installed |
| 08:47 | <fxiny> | sto* |
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| 08:47 | <normalnick-kgb> | The US military have killed ~100.000 civilians during operation "war" in Iraq and Afganistan (only during the"offical" WAR time ! Not now !) more people than Bin Laden group in WTC and Tanzania/Kenya attacks. |
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| 08:48 | <normalnick-kgb> | Bin laden is overrated imo |
| 08:48 | <Hideo> | ... and they still haven't caught him yet ... |
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| 08:48 | <Hideo> | ah well, offtopic |
| 08:48 | <twb> | normalnick-kgb: my understanding is that the reasoning is "they aren't Americans, so they don't count" |
| 08:48 | <normalnick-kgb> | because they dont wat it :) |
| 08:48 | <normalnick-kgb> | haha |
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| 08:49 | <fxiny> | normalnick-kgb: we can't walk free on this planet anymore . this counts |
| 08:49 | <twb> | After all, American military are notorious for killing their *allies*, let alone noncoms |
| 08:49 | <normalnick-kgb> | catching Bin laden = end war for oil ^H ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H i mean war with terror |
| 08:50 | <normalnick-kgb> | and USA WANT to controll middle east |
| 08:50 | <fxiny> | that bastard hits my natural rights |
| 08:50 | <Gekz> | o.o |
| 08:50 | <Hideo> | the logic that leads from Bin Laden to Iraq, I'll never get |
| 08:50 | <Gekz> | people |
| 08:50 | <Gekz> | TOPIC |
| 08:50 | <normalnick-kgb> | :p |
| 08:50 | <Gekz> | TOPICTOPICTOPIC |
| 08:50 | <fxiny> | yes yes |
| 08:50 | <Gekz> | !offtopic |
| 08:50 | <dpkg> | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic on irc.freenode.net |
| 08:50 | <normalnick-kgb> | Gekz: u are a terrorist ! ;) |
| 08:50 | <Gekz> | normalnick-kgb: whats it to you |
| 08:50 | <normalnick-kgb> | ok. sorry for that |
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| 08:54 | <Hideo> | have you guys all regenerate your OFTC certs? |
| 08:54 | <fxiny> | ok back to topic : i have compiled/installed gtk2.10 in /opt and i have purged all *dev*.deb , a ton . not i have bzipped /opt and moved it on my next box . running firebus3-rc1 with export bla bla works , no need to install compile anything |
| 08:54 | <normalnick-kgb> | Hideo: i need to regenerate them if i dont use them ? |
| 08:54 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: no |
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| 08:54 | <fxiny> | du -h /opt 50M /opt |
| 08:55 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: if you don't use them, you never had them in the first place |
| 08:56 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: you should use the certs tho, very convenient, you don't have to manually identify to Nickserv everytime you log on |
| 08:56 | <normalnick-kgb> | im not a geek ;) and i dont care really |
| 08:56 | <normalnick-kgb> | maybe few years ago... ;) |
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| 08:58 | <Hideo> | normalnick-kgb: it's hardly a geek thing, and you barely use 2 brain cells setting it up :) |
| 08:59 | <fxiny> | two ? one for nick and one for serv ? |
| 08:59 | <fxiny> | i might do it as well |
| 08:59 | <Hideo> | yeah |
| 08:59 | <Hideo> | lol |
| 08:59 | <Hideo> | http://www.oftc.net/oftc/NickServ/CertFP |
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| 09:00 | <normalnick-kgb> | geeks... |
| 09:00 | <normalnick-kgb> | im not geek since 2007 ;) |
| 09:00 | <Gekz> | !offtopic |
| 09:01 | <dpkg> | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic on irc.freenode.net |
| 09:01 | <normalnick-kgb> | and belive me or not: now i have a girlfriend ;) |
| 09:01 | <Gekz> | please, leave. |
| 09:01 | <Gekz> | before you die. |
| 09:01 | <normalnick-kgb> | ok |
| 09:01 | <Gekz> | I doubt your girlfriend condones of you talking to foxy ladies on chat rooms |
| 09:01 | <Hideo> | Gekz: is regenerating certs after the debian ssl thing offtopic? |
| 09:01 | <Gekz> | Hideo: no. |
| 09:02 | <_LikwidAtom> | Hi, I've just installed Debian 4, and its come up with X Window System errors, and wont load a GUI. |
| 09:02 | <fxiny> | foxy ladies or lorry dirvers ? |
| 09:02 | <Gekz> | fxiny: foxy lady lorry drivers. |
| 09:02 | <fxiny> | Gekz: heheheh |
| 09:02 | <normalnick-kgb> | $exec, 'die' |
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| 09:02 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 09:02 | <Gekz> | success. |
| 09:02 | <Aleric> | _LikwidAtom: The long road to X ... Takes me two weeks to set up X every time I upgrade :p |
| 09:02 | <Gekz> | Hideo: do you need help regenerating the cert? |
| 09:03 | <Gekz> | afaik, it does it automatically on install |
| 09:03 | <twb> | _LikwidAtom: what is the error? |
| 09:03 | <Hideo> | no, I was reminding people who use ssl certs to connect to oftc to regenerate them |
| 09:03 | <Gekz> | ah. |
| 09:04 | <Gekz> | I find the whole ssl thing freaking pathetic |
| 09:04 | <_LikwidAtom> | (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (3) |
| 09:04 | <Gekz> | it makes me lulz. |
| 09:04 | <_LikwidAtom> | (EE) Screen(s) found, but non have a usable configuration |
| 09:04 | <Hideo> | Gekz: people make mistakes ... |
| 09:05 | <twb> | _LikwidAtom: what is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"? |
| 09:05 | <Gekz> | Hideo: that went unnoticed for 2 years |
| 09:05 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 09:05 | <Hideo> | better than forever |
| 09:06 | <_LikwidAtom> | Two VGA compatible controlers, one with an unknown device tag, and one with the model etc.. |
| 09:06 | <Gekz> | Hideo: not true |
| 09:07 | <Gekz> | lop |
| 09:07 | <Gekz> | lol* |
| 09:07 | <Hideo> | Gekz: with M$, you probably wouldn't know things like that exist |
| 09:07 | <Gekz> | no, people always point out MS's flaws |
| 09:07 | <Gekz> | and they cry. |
| 09:07 | <fxiny> | think positive : good security reaction , decent threads in debian-security . better user understanding of ssh stuff scatterd around they're boxes , stale passwords and certs gone . what else ? |
| 09:09 | <_LikwidAtom> | If i remember rightly, I tried mandriva on this box, and got a similar problem, but their irc-support was dodgy, and they didnt help one bit. |
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| 09:11 | <Aleric> | _LikwidAtom: A general "it doesn't work" for X is too huge for IRC imho. It would take possibly hours to get it fixed if a guru came over and sat behind your PC. With a response time of 1 minute (like you just did), nobody is going to put time into it. |
| 09:11 | <Aleric> | _LikwidAtom: You're better off with Google, forums - and only if you are getting stuck on a very specific issue that can be answered quickly, ask here. |
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| 09:12 | <fxiny> | sans is back to green from yellow . we can get drunk again :P |
| 09:13 | <fxiny> | lemme see what /. is up to . and wireZd |
| 09:14 | <fxiny> | i have such a big gun as firebus3-rc1 ... |
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| 09:17 | <abrotman> | _LikwidAtom: which video card and which driver? |
| 09:17 | <_LikwidAtom> | Im currently using the NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS |
| 09:18 | <abrotman> | desktop? |
| 09:18 | <_LikwidAtom> | kde |
| 09:19 | <abrotman> | or a laptop? |
| 09:19 | <_LikwidAtom> | Desktop (sorry) |
| 09:19 | <abrotman> | does the vesa driver work? |
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| 09:20 | <_LikwidAtom> | When I booted up, it said that there was a problem with XWindows, so it disabled it, and when I tried to run it, it gave these two errors: (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (3) || (EE) Screen(s) found, but non have a usable configuration |
| 09:21 | <abrotman> | _LikwidAtom: right .. which driver were you trying to use? nvidia,nv or vesa? |
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| 09:21 | <valdyn> | abrotman: (EE) VESA(0) |
| 09:22 | <abrotman> | valdyn: i get VESA warnings while using the intel driver |
| 09:22 | <abrotman> | (II) intel(0): VESA BIOS detected |
| 09:22 | <abrotman> | or vesa messages |
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| 09:24 | <valdyn> | _LikwidAtom: run "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf", tell us the 3rd line |
| 09:24 | <_LikwidAtom> | vesa |
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| 09:25 | <abrotman> | specified a pciid? |
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| 09:26 | <_LikwidAtom> | I just booted, and it gave those errors i mentioned. |
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| 09:26 | <valdyn> | !drxx _LikwidAtom |
| 09:26 | <dpkg> | _LikwidAtom: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 09:27 | <_LikwidAtom> | Just have done |
| 09:27 | <_LikwidAtom> | Same errors |
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| 09:29 | <SANYA> | çäàðîâà ïàðíè) |
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| 09:29 | <cE^pInK> | hsadsygd |
| 09:30 | <SANYA> | ???) |
| 09:30 | <SANYA> | ÷¸? |
| 09:30 | <cE^pInK> | ??????????????/ |
| 09:30 | <abrotman> | english |
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| 09:32 | <SANYA> | Russia |
| 09:32 | <SANYA> | ÿ |
| 09:32 | <SANYA> | ) |
| 09:32 | <abrotman> | !ru |
| 09:32 | <dpkg> | ru is, like, Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 09:36 | <SANYA> | ïî Ðóññêè êòî íèáóäü ãîâîðèò? |
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| 09:37 | <abrotman> | SANYA: #debian-russian on irc.freenode.net .. english in here only |
| 09:37 | <SANYA> | äà äà äà äà äà çíàþ |
| 09:37 | <SANYA> | òàì ìîë÷àò âñå) |
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| 09:45 | <platyhelminth> | !fr |
| 09:45 | <dpkg> | it has been said that fr is Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 09:48 | <lucas_amorim> | hello. I have been using gtkguitune to tune in my guitars. But today I tried to execute it and got the following message error: Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libgnomebreakpad.so": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory initializing audio at /dev/dsp /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 09:48 | <lucas_amorim> | And I have already installed the oss-compat package... |
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| 09:48 | <lucas_amorim> | what is happening, what should I do? |
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| 09:50 | <sylock> | hi here |
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| 09:52 | <sylock> | I installed the testing version but installed once a sid application. Since, the os is tag as testing/sid. I desinstalled the sid application but i'm not succeding to go back to a testing only tag. Do you have an idea ? |
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| 09:55 | <mike> | Hi! New testing version of xkb-data do not allow me to switch keyboard layout, now I'm using stable wersion of this packet. How can I report a bug? |
| 09:56 | <azeem> | !reportbug |
| 09:56 | <dpkg> | hmm... reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s03.html for some general info about using reportbug and/or for debian-installater bug reporting |
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| 09:56 | <adrub> | Hi! |
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| 09:57 | <adrub> | I've got a problem, when I want to install gnome ... ;/ |
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| 09:57 | <mike> | Thank you! |
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| 09:58 | <noflash> | !tell adrub -about ask |
| 09:58 | <adrub> | apt-get writes me, that to install gnome-core I need gnome-applets and gnome-panel... in which repo is it |
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| 09:58 | <adrub> | I |
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| 09:58 | <adrub> | I have debian etch |
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| 10:00 | <sylock> | what's the problem adrub ? |
| 10:00 | <sylock> | ah I just read your message |
| 10:00 | <adrub> | :) |
| 10:00 | <sylock> | these are on the official repo |
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| 10:01 | <sylock> | juste type apt-get install <name_of_the_package> |
| 10:01 | <sylock> | just* |
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| 10:02 | <sylock> | if you want to install every packages for gnom, just type apt-get install gnome gdm |
| 10:02 | <sylock> | and also the x-server package |
| 10:03 | <adrub> | sylock, I know it... but it is a problem.. because.. apt-get sees gnome package... but it does'nt see gnome-panel |
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| 10:05 | <sylock> | did you looked your /etc/apt/source.list to be sure that you included goods repos ? |
| 10:05 | <sylock> | if yes, did you made a apt-get update before ? |
| 10:05 | <adrub> | I'm sure it... but wait.. I'll show you :) |
| 10:06 | <adrub> | I did |
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| 10:06 | <sylock> | ok |
| 10:06 | <sylock> | show to me |
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| 10:07 | <lucas_amorim> | I have been using gtkguitune to tune in my guitars. But today I tried to execute it and got the following message error: Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libgnomebreakpad.so": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory initializing audio at /dev/dsp /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 10:07 | <lucas_amorim> | And I have already installed the oss-compat package... |
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| 10:07 | <lucas_amorim> | what is happening, what should I do? |
| 10:08 | <lucas_amorim> | another program crashing with this same error is lingot |
| 10:08 | <adrub> | sylock, http://wklej.org/id/b1071e3de3 |
| 10:08 | <adrub> | it's my source.list |
| 10:08 | <abel_> | help |
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| 10:08 | <abel_> | i can write ntfs partition |
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| 10:08 | <sylock> | I'm looking at |
| 10:08 | <adrub> | ok |
| 10:08 | <abel_> | i cant write ntfs partition |
| 10:10 | <sylock> | to write ntfs partition you have to install "ntfs-3g" package |
| 10:10 | <sylock> | you source.list seems good |
| 10:10 | <twb> | lucas_amorim: gtkguitune is trying to access the sound device directly, and either it doesn't exist (because the appropriate driver isn't loaded) or -- more likely -- some other application or daemon (e.g. esd or arts) is using the sound device. |
| 10:11 | <sylock> | try an apt-cache search gnom-pannel |
| 10:11 | <adrub> | ok |
| 10:11 | <sylock> | it works here |
| 10:11 | <sylock> | gnome-pannel (forgot the "e") |
| 10:11 | <adrub> | yup |
| 10:11 | <twb> | *gnome-panel |
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| 10:11 | <adrub> | apt see it |
| 10:11 | <sylock> | so you could install it |
| 10:11 | <adrub> | I can't |
| 10:11 | <adrub> | it is strange |
| 10:11 | <adrub> | I'll show you |
| 10:12 | <lucas_amorim> | twb: thanks |
| 10:12 | <sylock> | what's the error message ? |
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| 10:13 | <SANYA> | ãîâîðèò êòî ïî Ðóññêè? |
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| 10:14 | <azeem> | SANYA: please write in english |
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| 10:14 | <SANYA> | I from Russia |
| 10:14 | <adrub> | http://wklej.org/id/d4675e8a77 sylock |
| 10:15 | <azeem> | !ru |
| 10:15 | <dpkg> | somebody said ru was Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 10:15 | <sylock> | sorry adrub but I only understand english or french |
| 10:16 | <SANYA> | What? |
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| 10:16 | <SANYA> | !ru |
| 10:16 | <dpkg> | from memory, ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 10:16 | <sylock> | I can't understand messages from your apt-get command |
| 10:16 | <adrub> | I translated the most important lines on a bottom |
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| 10:17 | <adrub> | ohh... sylock |
| 10:18 | <adrub> | it is strange but aptitude wants to install it o_O |
| 10:18 | <SANYA> | How are you? |
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| 10:18 | <adrub> | I wrote aptitude install gnome.. and it looks good |
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| 10:18 | <sylock> | so strange ! |
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| 10:18 | <adrub> | yes... |
| 10:19 | <adrub> | I will try reinstall apt-get or so on... |
| 10:19 | -!- | odin is now known as malademental |
| 10:19 | <SANYA> | I? |
| 10:19 | <sylock> | this is strange because your apt-cache search find the package |
| 10:19 | <adrub> | yes I know it... |
| 10:19 | <adrub> | that is why i wrote my problem here |
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| 10:21 | <SANYA> | You understand me not much?) |
| 10:21 | <adrub> | Nevertheless thank you sylock for help ;) |
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| 10:22 | <sylock> | you're welcome ;) |
| 10:22 | <azeem> | SANYA: if you have a Debian question, either ask in english here, or in russian in #debian-russian on irc.freenode.net |
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| 10:23 | <adrub> | sylock... one more question... are you english? ;] |
| 10:24 | <SANYA> | I do not understand you))) |
| 10:24 | <azeem> | !ru |
| 10:24 | <dpkg> | methinks ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 10:24 | <sylock> | i'm not but belgian and french speaking ;) |
| 10:24 | <azeem> | laste chance |
| 10:24 | <SANYA> | !ru |
| 10:24 | <dpkg> | [ru] Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 10:24 | <adrub> | nice ;) |
| 10:24 | <SANYA> | ) |
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| 10:25 | <adrub> | ! pl |
| 10:25 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, pl is perl, "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl (on irc.freenode.net) |
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| 10:27 | <SANYA> | âñåì áá |
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| 10:36 | <twb> | ...or prolog |
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| 10:41 | <limi_styler> | hi |
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| 10:41 | <limi_styler> | my namber 07156432244 |
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| 10:43 | <fxiny> | i prefere 31337 |
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| 10:53 | <erdbeer> | hi |
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| 10:54 | <erdbeer> | why is truecrypt not in the debian repo? |
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| 10:56 | <abrotman> | !truecrypt |
| 10:56 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, truecrypt is a non-free (under DFSG's definitions) implementation of on-the-fly disk encryption that also attempts at plausible deniability, something not found in other OTFE systems like <EncFS> and <LUKS>. See http://www.truecrypt.org |
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| 11:07 | <tchaikov> | /join #debian-zh |
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| 11:09 | <avtobiff> | i cannot mount my fat16 usb stick in the debian-installer, have i missed something? |
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| 11:14 | <abc> | Hi |
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| 11:16 | <abc> | Can I get help to install my headphones? It's a logitech headset and it's connected via usb. When I type the command 'lsusb' in a terminal I see this: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:0a01 Logitech, Inc. |
| 11:17 | <abc> | What do I do now? |
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| 11:20 | <qq> | abc: alsamixer |
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| 11:27 | <Franki> | hi |
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| 11:28 | <abc> | In alsamixer headphone have 00. I can't adjust the volume. |
| 11:28 | <Franki> | I was just wondering why /usr/lib/openssh/ssh-keysign needs setuid root |
| 11:29 | <cahoot> | abc: alsamixer accesses the headset? |
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| 11:30 | <cahoot> | abc: i e not any other sounddevice present on the system? |
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| 11:30 | <abc> | Yes, cahoot. |
| 11:31 | <cahoot> | abc: cat /proc/asound/cards - only one? |
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| 11:33 | <abc> | 2 |
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| 11:34 | <yayo> | is there a way I can download a msn messenger on debian? |
| 11:35 | <Torsten_W> | apt-get install amsn |
| 11:35 | <cahoot> | abc: and which is the usb-audio 0 or 1? |
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| 11:36 | <shilow> | does anyone know if they had trouble fullscreening on youtube after the most rescent iceweasel update ? |
| 11:36 | <abc> | cahoot: 1 |
| 11:37 | <cahoot> | abc: so alsamixer -c1 to access the headset |
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| 11:39 | <abc> | OK I raised the voule to max now but I still don't get any sound |
| 11:39 | <abc> | volume |
| 11:40 | <cahoot> | unmuted too? |
| 11:40 | <cahoot> | ...and - does you soundapp direct the output to correct device? |
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| 11:40 | <cahoot> | you can run asoundconf and make the headset the default |
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| 11:42 | <Mrkva> | is there any electronics geek? can you pleas tell me, what is this? http://mrkva.php5.cz/foto/bazmeg2.jpg (if i use the separated pin as ground, i get (from left to right: -3.3V, -3.3V, 0V) |
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| 11:43 | <yayo> | ok thank you |
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| 11:45 | <abc> | Yes I think everything is unmuted but I don't know if Rhytmbox is set to output the sound to my headphones though. |
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| 11:47 | <cahoot> | abc: to make sure - run (as root) invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 1 |
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| 11:51 | <abc> | cahoot: Done. Still no sound. |
| 11:51 | <abc> | Is there anything else I should check? |
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| 11:52 | <cahoot> | prova speaker-test -D hw:1 |
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| 11:55 | <Franki> | Mrkva: I'm not sure, but maybe it is some kind of temperature sensor, fan or debug socket. If so, then I would guess that it uses a kind of serial protocol, like i2c or the like |
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| 11:57 | <Mrkva> | Franki, thanks:) |
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| 11:58 | <Mrkva> | Franki, it isn't temp. sensor or fan - i'm sure about this... b |
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| 12:00 | <abc> | cahoot: "speaker-test -D hw:1" produces loud ticking noises |
| 12:00 | <cahoot> | speaker-test -D hw:1 -t wav for more joy |
| 12:01 | <Mrkva> | Franki, but is there any way, how to figure out what exactly it is? :) |
| 12:01 | <abc> | lol |
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| 12:02 | <malademental> | hi |
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| 12:02 | <cahoot> | abc: got sound? |
| 12:04 | <abc> | Not yet! |
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| 12:10 | <Plazzmex> | hi |
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| 12:11 | <Plazzmex> | there will be a problem to install debian on 128mb ram memory ? |
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| 12:12 | <Plazzmex> | there will be a problem to install debian on 128mb ram memory ? |
| 12:12 | <Plazzmex> | and what will be the restrictions? |
| 12:13 | <witte> | Plazzmex: you should be able to do that |
| 12:13 | <witte> | Plazzmex: but don't expect a fully capable gui installation |
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| 12:14 | <witte> | Plazzmex: i have a debian with 96 MB |
| 12:14 | <Plazzmex> | what do you mean by saying "fully capable gui installation" ? |
| 12:15 | <Franki> | Mrkva: get a i2c board. your picture looks a bit like it is from some pc-device. in this case it might be a smb |
| 12:15 | <jaakko> | Plazzmex: that is enough for a nice desktop, but you have to choose the apps, don't install Gnome |
| 12:15 | <witte> | Plazzmex: you shouldn't expect to do any 3d graphics or photo editing |
| 12:15 | <jaakko> | Plazzmex: If it is slow depends on you cpu.. |
| 12:16 | <Plazzmex> | gnome will not run on 128mb? |
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| 12:16 | <witte> | Plazzmex: there is a difference between will not run an will not run comfortably |
| 12:16 | <jaakko> | Plazzmex: don't know if it runs but is wasting memory and swapping pretty soon... |
| 12:16 | <Mrkva> | Franki, well... it's an VoIP gateway (welltech ata 151) |
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| 12:17 | <witte> | Plazzmex: but there are alternatives, you do not need gnome... |
| 12:18 | <Franki> | hmm, i don't have any experience with VoiP, nor with gateways and i only have basic i2c and hardware skills. I guess that won't help you further. |
| 12:18 | <jaakko> | Plazzmex: xfce looks like gnome, works nice. try it |
| 12:19 | <jaakko> | Plazzmex: I even like it more than gnome, no matter the memory usage |
| 12:19 | <Franki> | but i2c isn't that difficult. Aren't there some real hardware channels here? |
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| 12:21 | <abc> | Sound is working now. Thank you cahoot for the help. |
| 12:22 | <cahoot> | ok |
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| 12:31 | <vmuser> | anyone know of any distributed secure storage solutions preferably built on debian that would work placed on lets say 10 servers in different locations that has some sort of data redundancy... |
| 12:31 | <vmuser> | its a little much to ask for but am looking for a solution for a project. I had looked at AFS but it seems extremely complicated to setup |
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| 12:36 | <vmuser> | fragmentation-redundancy-scattering (FRS) seems like it might be a solution for such a setup but it doesn't seem like its yet a real solution just a lab test |
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| 12:37 | <dendrite> | vmuser: I guess a vpn'd rsync approach could work. |
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| 12:39 | <jaakko> | vmuser: if the data is something in database, you could use MySQL syncing capabilities |
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| 12:39 | <jaakko> | vmuser: but if you need file storage, different thing. |
| 12:39 | <dendrite> | Or PosggreSQL syncing, for that matter. |
| 12:39 | <vmuser> | hmm I would have to layer it with encryption or somthing I wonder if there would be a way to treat every location as an iscsi device and distribute the data like one found in raid or somthing...all good suggestions thanks, |
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| 12:41 | <AbsintheSyringe> | I have a weird problem with istanbul, once my video is recorded I can't play it, totem closes immidetly after I play it, debian etch |
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| 12:41 | <limi> | ih |
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| 12:41 | <limi> | hi |
| 12:41 | <limi> | debian |
| 12:41 | <jaakko> | AbsintheSyringe: start totem from command line to see the msg |
| 12:42 | <limi> | ah |
| 12:42 | <limi> | waht6s you name |
| 12:42 | <limi> | ?? |
| 12:42 | <jaakko> | AbsintheSyringe: does your totem work with other videos (in that format?)? |
| 12:43 | <azeem> | limi: do you have a Debian question? |
| 12:43 | <limi> | no |
| 12:43 | <AbsintheSyringe> | jaakko, yea, I also got win32codecs and all, http://paste.debian.net/3451/ |
| 12:43 | <azeem> | limi: so please either keep quiet or leave |
| 12:44 | <limi> | yes |
| 12:44 | <AbsintheSyringe> | talking about debian, what's happening with debian testing? |
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| 12:45 | <jaakko> | AbsintheSyringe: are you running that on local machine? I got something similar with remote ssh session |
| 12:45 | <azeem> | AbsintheSyringe: that's an astonishingly vague question |
| 12:45 | <limi> | ok |
| 12:45 | <AbsintheSyringe> | weekly builds haven't been released for 13 days, complete dist-upgrade also won't be completed due to dep. problems |
| 12:45 | <AbsintheSyringe> | jaakko, local |
| 12:45 | <azeem> | weekly builds of what? |
| 12:46 | <AbsintheSyringe> | azeem, debian testing, cd/dvd |
| 12:46 | <AbsintheSyringe> | I was just wondering what's happening |
| 12:46 | <azeem> | AbsintheSyringe: those aren't meant for general use |
| 12:46 | <azeem> | as for your dep problems - no idea until you're more specific |
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| 12:47 | <AbsintheSyringe> | azeem, I know, but I like to to test stuff :) |
| 12:47 | <AbsintheSyringe> | azeem, can't remember right now, it was something related to exim and etc ... |
| 12:47 | <AbsintheSyringe> | went back to stable |
| 12:47 | <azeem> | well, if you want help, make better notes next time |
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| 12:49 | <AbsintheSyringe> | I took original output, but lost it during downgrade |
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| 12:53 | <AbsintheSyringe> | jaakko, got any other suggestions to record my desktop, besides istanbul and kdesktoprecord |
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| 12:55 | <jaakko> | AbsintheSyringe: no, I didn't know even those... |
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| 12:56 | <AbsintheSyringe> | jaakko, k, tnx |
| 12:56 | <Supaplex> | AbsintheSyringe: will a class room of second graders, a pile of crayons and countless sheets of paper do? ;) |
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| 12:58 | <pablin30> | hi |
| 12:59 | <pablin30> | repos for debian etch |
| 12:59 | <pablin30> | please |
| 12:59 | <azeem> | !deb |
| 12:59 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, deb is the extension for debian precompiled packages |
| 12:59 | <azeem> | !etch |
| 12:59 | <dpkg> | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). |
| 12:59 | <azeem> | !sources.list |
| 12:59 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 12:59 | <Supaplex> | !tell pablin30 -about mirrors |
| 12:59 | <pablin30> | yes |
| 13:00 | <pablin30> | please |
| 13:00 | <pablin30> | about mirrors |
| 13:01 | <Supaplex> | pablin30: /query dpkg to see that |
| 13:01 | <pablin30> | how to update to gnome 2.22 |
| 13:01 | <pablin30> | or recent version |
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| 13:02 | <Supaplex> | !info gnome etch |
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| 13:02 | <dpkg> | gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.14.3.6 (etch), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
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| 13:03 | <Supaplex> | 2.22 wasn't shipped with etch. backports possibly has what you're after |
| 13:03 | <fxiny> | FluxWmiiUp rulez |
| 13:04 | <Supaplex> | i've been using openbox3 for months now, and don't even miss kde (gnome totally cramped my style) |
| 13:05 | <AbsintheSyringe> | Supaplex, yes, that's excatly what I was looking for :) |
| 13:05 | <torsten> | hello, i have some problems using svn, main development was done in trunk path, now i want to move trunk to branches/newest_version, and trunk shall become an older version (-r 446), how can this be done? |
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| 13:07 | <fxiny> | since i tryed dwm (a chan tip) i moved to tiled windows managers : wmii , xmonad , awesome , ion+ , larswm . i still use fluxbox but hell i want wmii shortcut style |
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| 13:08 | <fxiny> | i can't stand the idea of virtual desktops |
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| 13:08 | <fxiny> | windows have tags , just that |
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| 13:08 | <fxiny> | and windows managers must manage windows |
| 13:08 | <Supaplex> | for cool |
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| 13:10 | <fxiny> | there are no virtual desktops : me brain refues to believe in such absurd childish thing |
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| 13:11 | <fxiny> | windows can have a tag as a property , stick a tag and gropup 'em up . the brain will benefit |
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| 13:12 | <fxiny> | can't remener who told me about dmw but for sure is the best advice i had since long long time |
| 13:13 | <fxiny> | dwm* |
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| 13:14 | <fxiny> | i'm selling a second-hand ,like new, logitech mouse class '98 : i don't use it too much :) |
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| 13:32 | <eljefe> | Can anyone help me to set up an older HP Scanner on my Lenny system? It worked out of the box in the *buntu but I don't seem to have so much luck here. http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-hp5400.5.html |
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| 13:36 | <eljefe> | nevermind, solved it |
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| 13:48 | <pablin30> | debian startup graphic |
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| 13:51 | <Supaplex> | eljefe: solved it how? |
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| 13:53 | <eljefe> | Supaplex: I'm not sure if it was due to installing additional apps (I started with Kooka, but did some Sane installs also) but when I did run Kooka as root it worked, so i just had to add meself to the scanner group and log out and log in again |
| 13:54 | <Supaplex> | ahh. execellent. I had a similar problem, and similar solution needed. |
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| 14:09 | <blackgoth> | Hi everybody, im having a problem with my highpoint <sigh> raid controller, ive put all the drives in jbod and mdadm'd it to 1 raid0 setup, yet, performance wise it's way too slow |
| 14:09 | <blackgoth> | from a site i picked up this: the POSIX_WILL_NEED function of fadvise(). i have to set that to 1024 |
| 14:10 | <blackgoth> | yet, it isnt a kernel option, as far as i could find out. |
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| 14:13 | <blackgoth> | the raidcontroller is a highpoint 2200 8 port using the hptmv6 driver |
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| 14:43 | <Kalith> | debian-es |
| 14:43 | <Kalith> | #debian-es |
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| 14:45 | <dfsp_spirit> | Hi, I'm using Debian Etch and I'd like to restrict the usage of cron to members of a group. I know about the possibility to add users to /etc/cron.allow and cron.deny, but can I add goups in there? Does the 'crontab' group exist for what I am trying to do? |
| 14:46 | <erKURITA> | !cron.allow |
| 14:46 | <erKURITA> | gee |
| 14:46 | <erKURITA> | !cron |
| 14:46 | <dpkg> | i guess cron is a daemon that allows programs to be run at predefined intervals as specific users. To read how to specify a job to run "man 5 crontab". To see your crontab "crontab -l". To edit it "crontab -e". System wide crontabs are /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d, and /etc/cron.* are directories have run-parts called on them from /etc/crontab. Also ask me about <crontab> <cron tutorial> and <run-parts>. |
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| 14:46 | <erKURITA> | !cron tutorial |
| 14:46 | <dpkg> | well, cron tutorial is at http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html but use the Debian init script (/etc/init.d/cron) rather than running cron from the command line. |
| 14:48 | <dfsp_spirit> | I read that 5 mins ago and it doesn't say anything on adding groups. |
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| 14:48 | <dfsp_spirit> | So maybe this won't work, I guess. Thanks anyways. |
| 14:48 | <erKURITA> | search in linuxquestions.org |
| 14:49 | <dfsp_spirit> | k |
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| 14:49 | <dfsp_spirit> | I asked here cause I thought that 'crontab' group was debian-specific |
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| 14:49 | <abrotman> | erKURITA: try !tell user about foo |
| 14:50 | <erKURITA> | eh? |
| 14:50 | <abrotman> | !tell erKURITA about tell |
| 14:51 | <erKURITA> | :O |
| 14:51 | <erKURITA> | thanks |
| 14:51 | <abrotman> | instead of flooding the channel etc |
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| 14:52 | <dfsp_spirit> | !tell dfsp_spirit about tell |
| 14:52 | <abrotman> | !tell dfsp_spirit about selftell |
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| 14:53 | <Kalith> | hi |
| 14:53 | <Kalith> | http://pastebin.com/m43b8b71e |
| 14:53 | <Kalith> | help plese? |
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| 14:53 | <abrotman> | install the sub packages instead .. i don't think 'mono' is currently installable in lenny |
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| 14:56 | <Elyon> | hello |
| 14:56 | <Elyon> | I've got this card |
| 14:56 | <Elyon> | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01) |
| 14:57 | <Elyon> | but the xserver-xorg-video-via drivers doesn't support rendering |
| 14:57 | <Elyon> | here's a list of disponible drivers |
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| 14:57 | <Elyon> | http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=43&CatID=3190 |
| 14:57 | <Elyon> | wich i should get ? |
| 14:57 | <abrotman> | !unichrome |
| 14:57 | <dpkg> | it has been said that unichrome is the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. see <xorg sarge>. Use the 'via' driver in xorg |
| 14:57 | <abrotman> | says to use via |
| 14:58 | <Elyon> | thank you :) |
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| 15:01 | <fxiny> | to restrict cron ? i'd look into pam |
| 15:02 | <fxiny> | include common-auth >> wheel |
| 15:02 | <erKURITA> | abrotman and you go and tell me to use !tell :/ |
| 15:02 | <Laeborg> | hi |
| 15:03 | <abrotman> | did i do it 3 times in a row? |
| 15:03 | <Laeborg> | http://pastebin.org/36882 - whats wrong with my nxserver? Worked until the other day |
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| 15:03 | <erKURITA> | I didn't do it 3 times in a row |
| 15:03 | <abrotman> | you did, but one failed |
| 15:04 | <abrotman> | and i noticed before you do that .. |
| 15:04 | <fxiny> | the failed one counts^32 :P |
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| 15:10 | <Elyon> | I'm sorry but |
| 15:10 | <Elyon> | that drivers are too old |
| 15:10 | <Elyon> | doesn't works correctly |
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| 15:10 | <Elyon> | i need just to know which chipset is my card |
| 15:10 | <Elyon> | lspci doesn't tell me nothing |
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| 15:13 | <witte> | Elyon: there are newer kernels in backports i believe |
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| 15:15 | <Laeborg> | http://pastebin.org/36882 - whats wrong with my nxserver? Worked until the other day |
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| 15:17 | <Elyon> | eheh the backports doesn't help me so |
| 15:17 | <AbsintheSyringe2> | does anyone have a problem with viewing recorded istanbul video, my totem and every other player just closes once I do that, debian etch |
| 15:17 | <Elyon> | i need just know where i could find a fuctionaly driver :p |
| 15:17 | <erKURITA> | sounds like nxserver was trying to create a directory with an illegal name |
| 15:18 | <erKURITA> | AbsintheSyringe2 VLC closes aswell? |
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| 15:18 | <AbsintheSyringe2> | erKURITA, yea ... |
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| 15:18 | <erKURITA> | then it might aswell be 1) corrupt codects 2) corrupt video |
| 15:18 | <erKURITA> | s/cts/cs/ |
| 15:18 | <witte> | Elyon: are you using etch? |
| 15:19 | <Elyon> | I'm using lenny/sid |
| 15:19 | <AbsintheSyringe> | erKURITA, I can play other .ogg movies, second I got all codecs installed from multimedia stable, it's all fine execpt videos recorded with istanbul |
| 15:19 | <kurumin> | [exit] |
| 15:19 | <Elyon> | I've do last upgrade yesterday |
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| 15:19 | <witte> | Elyon: ah, ok |
| 15:19 | <erKURITA> | then istanbul is building the video incorrectly |
| 15:19 | <erKURITA> | may be* |
| 15:19 | <Elyon> | this is the first card gimme that problems |
| 15:20 | <witte> | Elyon: the card worked before? |
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| 15:20 | <erKURITA> | Elyon you should be aware that the risk of using sid packages is that it may break (part of) your system |
| 15:21 | <Elyon> | the card never worked :) |
| 15:22 | <Elyon> | I know that using sid is dangerous, but I'm still pretty good for a long time with sid |
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| 15:22 | <Elyon> | whatever |
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| 15:22 | <abrotman> | try lenny? |
| 15:22 | <Elyon> | the problems are also present in the other machine that mounts etch |
| 15:22 | <abrotman> | oh ignore |
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| 15:23 | <Mastroquet> | goodnight all |
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| 15:23 | <Elyon> | okkey, i think i shouldn't use rendering from this machine :P |
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| 15:26 | <casperF> | hi everyone |
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| 15:27 | <vfaronov> | Hello. I have installed Linux 2.6.24 (amd64) from etch-proposed-updates. Now m-a fails to build the madwifi modules for this kernel: it checks kernel config and says "Please enable wireless extensions". But the .config file for this kernel contains "CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y" and I can't find any other relevant lines. Any suggestions? |
| 15:27 | <casperF> | i try to restore a lot of deleted files from an xp ntfs disk using knoppix |
| 15:27 | <casperF> | is there any tool with a gui or do i have to use ntfsundelete? |
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| 15:30 | <Luk> | hi all |
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| 15:30 | <witte> | !madwifi |
| 15:30 | <dpkg> | madwifi is a driver for wireless devices with an Atheros chipset. More information at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian. To install madwifi drivers built against Debian stock kernels, ask me about <madwifi-install>. No USB devices are supported. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. http://madwifi.org/wiki/Support, #madwifi @ irc.freenode.net. No AR5008 support until 0.9.5. |
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| 15:31 | <witte> | vfaronov: madwifi should work on an 2.6.24 kernel (i did not hear any complaints about madwifi in lenny or sid) |
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| 15:33 | <vfaronov> | witte: yes, it should, but doesn't :-) everything is fine on the normal etch 2.6.18 |
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| 15:45 | <blackgoth> | does anyone know the sysctl key for readahead in debian etch? |
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| 15:48 | <maxb> | sysctl == sysrq ? |
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| 15:48 | <blackgoth> | there is no sysrq in my etch? |
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| 15:48 | <blackgoth> | only sysctl |
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| 15:49 | * | Kjetil thinks readahead is set via hdparm |
| 15:49 | <maxb> | Oh, you mean "key" in the sense of a registry, rather than on the keyboard |
| 15:49 | <blackgoth> | hah yeah |
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| 15:53 | <jignaciol> | list |
| 15:54 | <erKURITA> | lol |
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| 15:54 | <blackgoth> | so, nobody with any idea how to speed up the readahead? |
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| 16:02 | <Laeborg> | http://pastebin.org/36882 - whats wrong with my nxserver? Worked until the other day |
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| 16:03 | <E0x> | stderr: mkdir: cannot create directory |
| 16:03 | <E0x> | check that |
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| 16:10 | <Pyr0man> | hello all |
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| 16:11 | <Pyr0man> | i'm looking for help getting the windows debian installer working on my ASUS P5W |
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| 16:12 | <witte> | Pyr0man: windows debian installer? |
| 16:13 | <Pyr0man> | http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
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| 16:13 | <Pyr0man> | it creates a new boot image on the C drive then your boot into it |
| 16:14 | <Pyr0man> | and it then becomese a basic Debian installation boot |
| 16:14 | <witte> | Pyr0man: ah, ok, i indeed heard about this project |
| 16:14 | <Pyr0man> | but it won't find my SATA HDD |
| 16:14 | <witte> | isn't it easier to just download the official debian netinstall? |
| 16:14 | <Pyr0man> | i think it's all caused by the Jmicron RAID controller issues that most ASUS boards have |
| 16:15 | <Pyr0man> | i can get the CDs to boot, but then they "fail to find CD-ROM" |
| 16:15 | <Pyr0man> | which is EPIC |
| 16:15 | <witte> | Pyr0man: you have a brand new computer? |
| 16:16 | <Pyr0man> | 7 months old |
| 16:16 | <Laeborg> | E0x: what can I do about that? |
| 16:16 | <witte> | Pyr0man: you could try the kmuto installer, etch is currently > 1year old |
| 16:16 | <witte> | !kmuto |
| 16:16 | <dpkg> | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:17 | <interbird> | Pyr0man: Why not install Debian in VirtualBox? Or did you just want to try this (not-recommended) install-method ? |
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| 16:18 | <Pyr0man> | i have it running in VirtualBox right now (really its a KNOPPIX install), but it can't use all my hardware |
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| 16:20 | <Pyr0man> | that and it only seems to run the UMP kernel, because VirtualBox hides the fact that I have a Quad Core |
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| 16:21 | <interbird> | Pyr0man: Ok, it installs in it's own image which it loop-mounts, but your harddisk-hardware and ntfs partition must be accessible from debian and the grub it installs |
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| 16:21 | <sukru> | hi all |
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| 16:22 | <Pyr0man> | it ticks me off that i didn't pay closer attention to the forums before i bought my board, or i'd have avoided ASUS like the plague |
| 16:23 | <interbird> | Pyr0man: onboard sata? raid? |
| 16:23 | <EmleyMoor> | Maplin keep offering me ASUS when I go for one... I always say "no thanks" |
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| 16:25 | <Pyr0man> | it has a jmicron ATA100 raid controller |
| 16:25 | <Pyr0man> | but even with it disabled, and nothing attached to it |
| 16:25 | <Pyr0man> | it interferes with the SATA controller |
| 16:26 | <Pyr0man> | that comes off the Intell 975 chip |
| 16:26 | <interbird> | Pyr0man: Why not install Debian in it's own partition ? |
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| 16:27 | <Pyr0man> | i can never get the installation to a point where it can see the HDD to partition it |
| 16:27 | <interbird> | Pyr0man: What Debian install cd are you using ? |
| 16:28 | <interbird> | Pyr0man: (Besides the debian.exe method) |
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| 16:37 | <Laeborg> | http://pastebin.org/36882 - whats wrong with my nxserver? Worked until the other day |
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| 16:39 | <interbird> | Leaborg: Access rights? : 596 stderr: mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/seedbox/.nx/C-fx3719-1 |
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| 16:43 | <interbird> | Laeborg: Access rights? : 596 stderr: mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/seedbox/.nx/C-fx3719-1 |
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| 16:46 | <Laeborg> | hmm it have been working, and i have not changed anything |
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| 16:50 | <caferacer> | ola pessoal |
| 16:50 | <caferacer> | rs |
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| 16:51 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there any way to view an ActiveX-enabled site on Debian? |
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| 16:51 | <interbird> | Leaborg: Well, just go root and then su seedbox and see if you can create this dir in .nx; that is what i would do... |
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| 16:55 | <interbird> | EmleyMoor: That's like asking if anybody wants to throw firecrackers in you mailbox at years-end; maybe ies4linux goes that far; dunno. |
| 16:56 | <EmleyMoor> | interbird: Indeed - not a good idea - but the only way to identify places in Wayfinder... the other version of the map works fine for general use |
| 16:56 | <Laeborg> | mkdir: cannot create directory `test': No space left on device |
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| 16:56 | <Nemoder> | heh, time to delete some files? |
| 16:56 | <witte> | Laeborg: so your disk is full... |
| 16:56 | <Laeborg> | i think so :P |
| 16:56 | <interbird> | Leaborg: There you go... |
| 16:58 | <Laeborg> | :) |
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| 16:59 | <interbird> | EmleyMoor: Dunno what "Wayfinder" is but to find my way I would never like to be dependent on Active-X, so sorry... |
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| 17:11 | <alaya> | oh my god this is sooo bunk! every single media player for music sucks! |
| 17:11 | <alaya> | xmms was the only decent one. amarok, audacious, et al. all have major bugs |
| 17:12 | <alaya> | and now xmms is dropped! |
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| 17:13 | <interbird> | so? use the source luke! |
| 17:13 | <Koston> | what's problem with eg. mplayer? |
| 17:14 | <alaya> | oh its so nauseating. i did manage to forward-port xmms and a few of its plugins, but it crashes |
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| 17:14 | <alaya> | does mplayer support a playlist, song queueing, mp4, musepack, flac, ogg? |
| 17:15 | <interbird> | I'd take it backto the store and demand a refund |
| 17:15 | <erKURITA> | alaya |
| 17:15 | <Koston> | at least it plays all formats |
| 17:15 | <erKURITA> | try exaile ? |
| 17:15 | <Koston> | and it supports a playlist: 'mplayer <files to play>' |
| 17:16 | <alaya> | hi interbird, have you, by any chance, attempted to build xmms musepack plugin from source under amd64 sid? i'm guessing not... |
| 17:16 | <avu> | alaya, what major audacious bug did you find? |
| 17:16 | <alaya> | avu: when i enqueue a list of files, it opens a separate instance of it |
| 17:17 | <interbird> | alaya: You guessed right; but I guess neither did you ? |
| 17:17 | <avu> | alaya, doesn't happen on sid. |
| 17:17 | <alaya> | interbird: you would have guessed wrong then. for that plus a host of other plugins i need |
| 17:17 | <alaya> | avu: it happens here! |
| 17:17 | <avu> | alaya, (you mean open an instance, then use audacious -e foo.ext, right) |
| 17:18 | <interbird> | alaya: Ok, I stand corrected alaya. |
| 17:18 | <avu> | alaya, that adds foo.ext to the playlist of the already running audacious |
| 17:18 | <alaya> | avu: basically. i have a mime type setup in konqueror that calls audacious -e %F to do the same thing |
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| 17:19 | <alaya> | avu: so when i select a bunch of files and choose "audacious_enqueue" it opens another instance |
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| 17:19 | <avu> | alaya, I can't find that bug in the BTS, can you link me to it? |
| 17:19 | <alaya> | avu: i will have to file it now |
| 17:19 | <avu> | alaya, ah |
| 17:20 | <avu> | alaya, make sure to test it outside of konqueror I guess, to make sure it's really an audacious problem |
| 17:20 | <avu> | alaya, I am trying hard to reproduce it here, but to no avail :( |
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| 17:21 | <interbird> | alaya: Building xmms from source; what plugin is offending? |
| 17:22 | <alaya> | avu: filed |
| 17:22 | <alaya> | avu: since they are trying to replicate xmms functionality, i filed it, because xmms behaves that way |
| 17:23 | <avu> | alaya, no they are not |
| 17:23 | <avu> | alaya, they made that *very* clear |
| 17:23 | <alaya> | interbird: at this point xmms itself barely runs. for example, on my 1920x1200 monitor if i try to double-size it it crashes |
| 17:23 | <alaya> | avu: oops |
| 17:24 | <alaya> | avu: well, at least they will know about the issue |
| 17:24 | <avu> | alaya, but still, audacious -e <file> should add $file to the playlist of an existing instance |
| 17:24 | <alaya> | avu: i just assumed it because its look/behavior as so similar, and it used plugins from it |
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| 17:24 | <interbird> | alaya: Did you try to run it on bare X? Like with xinit? |
| 17:26 | <alaya> | interbird: hmm, no |
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| 17:26 | <interbird> | alaya: Or under a "fresh" user? (Could be some shitty .xmms settings ... |
| 17:26 | <alaya> | avu: ok, manually enqueuing like that, after a *really* long delay, enqueues the file correctly, but the audacious window suddenly appeared on my other desktop |
| 17:26 | <alaya> | interbird: i did wipe out existing .xxms |
| 17:27 | <avu> | alaya, that might be a problem with your WM |
| 17:27 | <alaya> | avu: so another bug i've just found |
| 17:27 | <alaya> | avu: kde? |
| 17:27 | <interbird> | alaya: I'd create a "fresh user" and use Xnest to test xmms under that user |
| 17:27 | <avu> | alaya, here (metacity), audacious stays put on its desktop when I enqueue from another one |
| 17:27 | <interbird> | alaya: (before I wipe :-) |
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| 17:28 | <interbird> | alaya: xmms (apt-get source) compiled ok, btw |
| 17:29 | <alaya> | interbird: xmms has been dropped from debian, so i think its pointless to pursue it too much further |
| 17:29 | <alaya> | interbird: if the maintainers consider it not worth maintaining, then its pretty much a lost cause |
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| 17:30 | <interbird> | alaya: since when? did i not update that long ? did it get dropped for lenny ? |
| 17:31 | <alaya> | mplayer works but its playlist looks archaic |
| 17:31 | <alaya> | interbird: its on some mailing list |
| 17:31 | <alaya> | interbird: can't find it at the moment. |
| 17:31 | <interbird> | alaya: kee, will read that; shit ! |
| 17:32 | <alaya> | interbird: yeah, that's why i'm bummed! they yanked the only decent player without there being an equivalent replacement |
| 17:32 | <interbird> | alaya: true |
| 17:32 | <witte> | !xmms |
| 17:32 | <dpkg> | from memory, xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. It has been removed from Debian (although it is still in etch), see http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms/news/20080302T105714Z.html For alternatives, look at xmms2, rhythmbox, amarok, exaile, songbird, quod libet ... see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons |
| 17:32 | <alaya> | interbird: my guess is that it will be 2-3 years before any of the others can get stable enough to be considered replacements, if at all |
| 17:33 | <avu> | alaya, don't be silly |
| 17:33 | <alaya> | interbird: not only that, i still have issues where i have to completely close iceweasel because amarok's xine engine fails to start if its open! |
| 17:33 | <interbird> | alaya: now i remember it might have been dropped for xmms2; but i could not get 2 2 work :-( |
| 17:33 | <avu> | I haven't used xmms in years |
| 17:33 | <witte> | For what it is worth, i use audacious (on sid) and it works quite ok |
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| 17:34 | <avu> | same here |
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| 17:34 | <alaya> | witte: am having issues with it not enqueueing under sid. bug 481838 |
| 17:35 | <avu> | alaya, well, after you just said that it works when you do it from the command line, it will most likely be an error in your konqueror setup? |
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| 17:35 | <alaya> | avu: actually it didn't. when i went to close it i realized it had opened a second instance in the background |
| 17:36 | <alaya> | avu: the other thing is, it just took 20+ seconds to even start up |
| 17:37 | <avu> | alaya, have you tried moving your .config/audacious or a fresh account? |
| 17:37 | <interbird> | alaya: there are more problems with too many concurrently starting processes; some global sync seems to be missing... (sometimes i suspect core being firefox and still named so) |
| 17:37 | <witte> | alaya: I don't use that option, I just open it, an press play :-) |
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| 17:38 | <alaya> | avu: and when i did a manual CLI enqueue into it, it took 30+ seconds, the original instance was left playing unchanged, and opened a second instance with all the already queueud files plus the new one |
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| 17:38 | <alaya> | witte: i end up having playlists that are many gigabytes worth of files, and really need to be able to have queueing working properly |
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| 17:39 | <alaya> | i will update the bug to mention that it happens with CLI enqueue also... |
| 17:39 | <witte> | alaya: but you are running sid, you should expect that issues happen, or is the lenny version also affected? |
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| 17:40 | <avu> | witte, (FWIW, I am also running sid and said feature works fine for me, which is why I suggested moving the configuration and stuff) |
| 17:40 | <avu> | but since that is being ignored, I will go do other things now, bye :) |
| 17:41 | <alaya> | witte: don't know. just bummed out because i need a stable music player |
| 17:41 | <alaya> | avu: i386? |
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| 17:41 | <alaya> | avu: and under metacity. could be that something is making the difference |
| 17:41 | <witte> | alaya: mpd could be ok :-), I use that at work for the landscape office we have |
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| 17:42 | <alaya> | avu: 1.5.0-2 ? |
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| 17:42 | <alaya> | witte: cool. will test it out. |
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| 17:43 | <witte> | alaya: it is nice if you want a music player that is accessible through a webinterface, but probably it is not as fancy as you should want |
| 17:44 | * | witte thinks that emacs should have grammar check as well after reading his last sentence :( |
| 17:44 | <interbird> | it's the engine that matters; the interface can be any gui, also web-based |
| 17:44 | <alaya> | witte: as long as its not horrendously ugly, supports a lot of music formats, and enqueues well, i don't care |
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| 17:45 | * | alaya installes gmpc & mpd |
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| 17:47 | <alaya> | looks like no CLI enqueue support for either though :-( |
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| 17:53 | <mitch> | hey |
| 17:55 | <angasule> | hello |
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| 18:00 | <angasule> | boo, I found a bug and it has already been reported, though not fixed, I think :) |
| 18:00 | <Laeborg> | how to mount an linux partion? |
| 18:00 | <Laeborg> | *partition |
| 18:01 | <witte> | Laeborg: mount /dev/<device> /mount/point |
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| 18:02 | <Laeborg> | but i want to mount the devices the same way as the other hdd |
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| 18:03 | <witte> | Laeborg: I don't know what you mean |
| 18:03 | <Laeborg> | then i can just tyde media:/sdb1 in konqueror |
| 18:03 | <Laeborg> | *type |
| 18:03 | <Laeborg> | (sorry for bad english) |
| 18:04 | <Laeborg> | or just click on the devices in system:/media/ |
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| 18:06 | <evilmanu> | hello |
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| 18:40 | <cockroach> | hey, small question: what happened to apt? "back then" a dist-upgrade would just include the neccessary things, now it seems whatever could possibly be installed *is* installed (xorg upgrade wants to install all kinds of drivers and i have to manually prevent each of them from being installed). is there a way i can tell it *not* to do that? |
| 18:41 | <cockroach> | (on testing, btw) |
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| 18:41 | <themill> | cockroach: nothing has changed to dist-upgrade at all |
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| 18:42 | <witte> | cockroach: I think that recommended packages are now also installed with apt, but i am not sure |
| 18:42 | <cockroach> | themill: hrm, if i type 'apt-get install -t testing xserver-xorg-core' i get (roughly estimated) 30 ned packages installed |
| 18:43 | <themill> | witte: you are right for "install" but that doesn't change "dist-upgrade" |
| 18:43 | <themill> | cockroach: that's not a dist-upgrade though.... |
| 18:43 | <cockroach> | themill: ah, sorry |
| 18:43 | <cockroach> | themill: maybe i didn't actually try a dist upgrade, that's true :) |
| 18:43 | <cockroach> | so s/dist-upgrade/install/ |
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| 18:43 | <cockroach> | so is there an option somewhere to disable that? |
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| 18:43 | <cockroach> | i couldn't find anything |
| 18:43 | <themill> | cockroach: witte is right; apt will now automatically include recommended packages as you would usually want them. |
| 18:43 | <coelho> | hi, i installed debian, changed the source.list to unstable to make it sid, made apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade. It installed a lot of new packages but i still have kernel 2.6.24 , but i think during the dist-upgrade it was updated to 2.6.25 |
| 18:44 | <coelho> | do i need to do something more ? |
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| 18:44 | <themill> | cockroach: The other thing is that with modular xorg, things are split into more packages. |
| 18:44 | <cockroach> | themill: i realize that, i'm already running a modular xorg, but now it wants to install stuff like xserver-xorg-video-s3virge which is rather pointless :) |
| 18:45 | <witte> | coelho: you need to reboot in order to have 2.6.25 running... |
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| 18:45 | <coelho> | witte : already did that :) |
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| 18:45 | <coelho> | grub doesn't shows other then 2.6.24 |
| 18:45 | <witte> | cockroach: you can remove xserver-xorg-video-all (and the stuff associated with that) |
| 18:45 | <themill> | cockroach: if you are already running it, why are you trying to install it? and why -t testing? It sounds like you're trying to make a stable/testing mix which would be highly inadvisable. |
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| 18:46 | <cockroach> | witte: xserver-xorg-video-all is not installed |
| 18:46 | <chealer> | coelho: which Debian suite did you install? |
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| 18:46 | <witte> | coelho: see if the 2.6.25 kernel is installed (dpkg -l ...) |
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| 18:47 | <cockroach> | themill: because it whines about libxfont1 if i don't (i seem to still have the stable version of that one installed) |
| 18:47 | <cockroach> | themill: i'm running 'stable with some testing stuff', not pure testing |
| 18:47 | <coelho> | chealer didn't understand the question |
| 18:47 | <home> | how can i install more effects? |
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| 18:48 | <themill> | cockroach: don't..... you're in for making a lot of trouble for yourself by doing that. |
| 18:48 | <coelho> | witte : Ups :P i do have 2.6.24, damn, how do i upgrade it then ? |
| 18:49 | <cockroach> | themill: well, so far it worked pretty well :) (until now, that is). also, i don't see the problem in selectively upgrading... |
| 18:49 | <witte> | coelho: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.25... (search with apt-cache) |
| 18:49 | <witte> | coelho: but if you need to ask these things, you are running the wrong debian |
| 18:50 | <home> | how can i install more effects? |
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| 18:50 | <witte> | home: effects? |
| 18:51 | <home> | visual effects |
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| 18:51 | <coelho> | witte: well i just asumed if you made debian unstable it would upgrade to the last kernel in the repositories |
| 18:51 | <witte> | home: I really think you will have to give more information on what you are running, and what you want... |
| 18:52 | <home> | ubuntu 7.10 |
| 18:52 | <cockroach> | !ubuntu |
| 18:52 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 18:52 | <home> | sorry witte |
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| 18:53 | <witte> | coelho: depends, if you have the correct package (linux-image-amd64 on my pc), it would |
| 18:53 | <witte> | coelho: but not everyone likes his kernels being updated without doing it himself |
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| 18:54 | <cockroach> | themill: turns out if i start my 'install' command with the video driver it behaves. thanks anyway! |
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| 18:55 | <koe> | i tried to install flash on my iceweasel, on my today installed machine |
| 18:55 | <themill> | cockroach: that's often the case; that satisfies the dependency explicitly so you don't end up with the -all package. |
| 18:55 | <koe> | and now it crashes when i click |
| 18:55 | <koe> | most pages |
| 18:55 | <coelho> | witte: thx for the help, installing new kernel now :), just one more question can you point me a good how to for fonts ? |
| 18:55 | <koe> | even google |
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| 18:56 | <witte> | !fonts |
| 18:56 | <dpkg> | i heard fonts is check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html, or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt, or http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/20050425novalis |
| 18:56 | <witte> | !fonts guide |
| 18:56 | <witte> | !font guide |
| 18:56 | <dpkg> | somebody said font guide was (temporarily) bob2's Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused: http://www.ncee.net/shane/font_guide.txt (previously at http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt) |
| 18:56 | <coelho> | thx :) |
| 18:57 | <witte> | coelho: the links seem a bit old at first site, take care before doing something |
| 18:57 | <coelho> | brb rebooting |
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| 18:57 | <themill> | dpkg: fonts is also Ask me about <install font>. |
| 18:57 | <dpkg> | themill: okay |
| 18:58 | <koe> | my boyfriend installed my machine with debian |
| 18:58 | <koe> | and now i want flash |
| 18:58 | <azeem> | !flash |
| 18:58 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> for a free implementation or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 18:58 | <azeem> | !swfdev |
| 18:58 | <azeem> | !swfdec |
| 18:58 | <azeem> | gah |
| 18:59 | <koe> | yes i read that, but it says cannot find flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:59 | <azeem> | koe: did you add non-free to sources.list? |
| 18:59 | <witte> | !tell koe about non-free |
| 18:59 | <koe> | where can i find a nonfree aptsource |
| 19:00 | <azeem> | dpkg: swfdec is another free flash implementation which can play youtube videos and integrates with GNOME |
| 19:00 | <dpkg> | azeem: okay |
| 19:00 | <witte> | koe: just add non-free after your deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:00 | <themill> | azeem: flashplugin-nonfree is no longer in etch |
| 19:01 | <azeem> | dpkg: no, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 19:01 | <dpkg> | okay, azeem |
| 19:01 | <azeem> | themill: ah |
| 19:01 | <koe> | deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free |
| 19:01 | <themill> | !adobe flash |
| 19:01 | <dpkg> | Adobe Flash Player is a non-free Flash player and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree. This package was removed from Etch and will not be included in future stable releases (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291); use the one from backports.org (ask me about <non-free> and <bpo>). If you are using a 64-bit browser, ask me about <nspluginwrapper>. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 19:01 | <koe> | it allready says so |
| 19:02 | <abrotman> | it's been removed from etch/lenny |
| 19:02 | <abrotman> | it is at etch-backports |
| 19:02 | <witte> | koe: aptitude update;aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:02 | <themill> | witte: flashplugin-nonfree is no longer in etch |
| 19:03 | <witte> | themill: koe has sid sources ;-) |
| 19:03 | <themill> | wtf? |
| 19:03 | <themill> | hmmm |
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| 19:03 | <koe> | trouble is i think ftp.nl.debian.org does not have nonfree |
| 19:03 | <abrotman> | does koe have amd64/i386 ? |
| 19:03 | * | koe has amd xp2100+ |
| 19:03 | <abrotman> | was aptitude update run ? |
| 19:04 | * | koe had 256M ram |
| 19:04 | <abrotman> | just enough for flash! |
| 19:04 | <witte> | koe: it does |
| 19:04 | <koe> | i am running aptitude update now |
| 19:06 | <koe> | ok, it seems to be installing now |
| 19:06 | <koe> | thanx guys |
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| 19:08 | <aloha-shin> | hi everyone |
| 19:08 | <aloha-shin> | someone here knows how to disable the gdm ? |
| 19:08 | <aloha-shin> | im using putty. |
| 19:08 | <azeem> | !nodm |
| 19:08 | <dpkg> | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 19:09 | <witte> | aloha-shin: if you just want to do it one time, /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 19:10 | <aloha-shin> | let say i want to disable foreever |
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| 19:10 | <aloha-shin> | which command should i execute? |
| 19:10 | <aloha-shin> | @nodm |
| 19:10 | <witte> | aloha-shin: ok, than have a look at the thing azeem asked dpkg |
| 19:10 | <ravenbird> | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 19:10 | <aloha-shin> | !nodm |
| 19:10 | <dpkg> | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 19:11 | <aloha-shin> | if follow this !nodm does this mean that even if i reboot it the gdm won't be avaiable? |
| 19:11 | <witte> | aloha-shin: yes |
| 19:11 | <aloha-shin> | just incase I need the gdm again how do i enable? |
| 19:12 | <witte> | aloha-shin: aptitude install gdm |
| 19:12 | <aloha-shin> | ok just reinstallation it again |
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| 19:12 | <Koston> | ghmm |
| 19:12 | <aloha-shin> | im using debian lenny |
| 19:13 | <Koston> | would be much more simpler and elegant to simply remove the runlevel symlinks to the init script |
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| 19:13 | <aloha-shin> | gdm eats 26mb of ram |
| 19:13 | <aloha-shin> | that's why i want to disable since im only using putty |
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| 19:14 | <aloha-shin> | thanks witte. |
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| 19:14 | <aloha-shin> | ahhhh |
| 19:16 | <aloha-shin> | I have problem adding the 2nd WAN IP. Because my host don't know how to add the IP. is there a guide how to add the 2nd WANIP to my dedi? what do i need to configure? |
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| 19:17 | <Golfgeo> | Hi all |
| 19:18 | <aloha-shin> | hi golfgeo |
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| 19:18 | <Golfgeo> | got a quick question: I have Acer grind-vision (screen devider) and am wondering if this can be done in KDE... |
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| 19:18 | <aloha-shin> | !kdm |
| 19:18 | <dpkg> | [kdm] the KDE Display Manager - an even swankier version of xdm, for the K Desktop user |
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| 19:19 | <aloha-shin> | !nodm |
| 19:19 | <dpkg> | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 19:19 | <aloha-shin> | !gdm |
| 19:19 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, gdm is the Gnome Display Manager. A gnome based display manager based on xdm, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind.. see gdm fix, or uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession, or kicks ass!, or (a word that You can confuse with "gpm", gpm is that thingy to have mouse cursor in text console) |
| 19:19 | <aloha-shin> | hehe |
| 19:19 | <Golfgeo> | :-) |
| 19:19 | <aloha-shin> | even in irc command is working |
| 19:19 | <aloha-shin> | hehe |
| 19:20 | <themill> | !tell aloha-shin about msg the bot |
| 19:20 | <aloha-shin> | themill im not a bot |
| 19:20 | <aloha-shin> | im a human |
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| 19:20 | <azeem> | aloha-shin: *you* should /msg the bot |
| 19:20 | <azeem> | and not invoke it in-channel, to not disturb others |
| 19:20 | <aloha-shin> | im reading |
| 19:20 | <aloha-shin> | that's why i want to see |
| 19:20 | <Golfgeo> | ah, well this is not what I am looking for: In XP I can devide the desktop into multiple planes to which I can lock applications... |
| 19:21 | <azeem> | aloha-shin: if you /msg it, you can read it just as well, for yourself |
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| 19:21 | <Golfgeo> | Nice and even planes like 1:1 1:2 or even 2:2 |
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| 19:21 | <Golfgeo> | or just one plane that covers the entire screen |
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| 19:23 | <aloha-shin> | I have problem adding the 2nd WAN IP. Because my host don't know how to add the IP. is there a guide how to add the 2nd WANIP to my dedi? what do i need to configure? |
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| 19:25 | <twb> | aloha-shin: are both WAN interfaces configured with DHCP? |
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| 19:25 | <Golfgeo> | aloha-shin: nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:25 | <Golfgeo> | aloha-shin: man interfaces |
| 19:25 | <twb> | aloha-shin: are they both connected to the same WAN (i.e. "trunking")? |
| 19:25 | <Golfgeo> | aloha-shin: do the second one first |
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| 19:26 | <aloha-shin> | do u know how to configure it goldgeo? |
| 19:27 | <klh[dodo]> | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 19:27 | <klh[dodo]> | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 19:27 | <witte> | !interfaces |
| 19:27 | <dpkg> | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
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| 19:27 | <Golfgeo> | aloha-shin: You need to learn this yourself mate, there is planty of howto's on the internet, just google on debian and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:27 | <aloha-shin> | can we talk private ? |
| 19:28 | <azeem> | aloha-shin: keep it in the channel |
| 19:28 | <twb> | Oy vey. |
| 19:28 | <Golfgeo> | gtg people, have fun |
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| 19:29 | <aloha-shin> | nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:29 | <blackgoth> | i should install some sort of cooling in my fileserver... |
| 19:29 | <aloha-shin> | I saw the configuration |
| 19:30 | <aloha-shin> | iface eth1 inet dhcp <what's this |
| 19:30 | <twb> | aloha-shin: I asked you two questions. Please answer them. |
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| 19:30 | <aloha-shin> | which one |
| 19:31 | <aloha-shin> | Im a begginer |
| 19:31 | <aloha-shin> | and i dont have that much knoledge that;s why im asking.. |
| 19:31 | <aloha-shin> | all know is just basic comands |
| 19:31 | <azeem> | aloha-shin: if you're a beginner, why do you have two WAN interfaces? |
| 19:31 | <twb> | Perhaps aloha-shin is misusing the word "WAN" |
| 19:31 | <aloha-shin> | I told you i dont know |
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| 19:32 | <blackgoth> | i think his mainboard just has 2 lan interfaces |
| 19:32 | <aloha-shin> | even my host dont know how to add the 2nd IP |
| 19:32 | <aloha-shin> | because they only support windows |
| 19:32 | <aloha-shin> | and hesaid if you want linux there is no support from them |
| 19:32 | <blackgoth> | aloha-shin: your first nic is configured? |
| 19:32 | <aloha-shin> | what my host did just he know someone who can install debian lenny |
| 19:32 | <blackgoth> | as static |
| 19:32 | <witte> | aloha-shin: what do you want to do with those two wan interfaces? |
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| 19:33 | <aloha-shin> | I just want to have 2 wan IPs |
| 19:33 | <witte> | aloha-shin: why |
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| 19:33 | <aloha-shin> | my host gave me the 2nd IP but he doesnt know how to add it. |
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| 19:33 | <witte> | aloha-shin: you want one pc, with two IP's? |
| 19:33 | <aloha-shin> | the 2nd ip is just for the remote SQL |
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| 19:34 | <blackgoth> | aloha-shin: just do ifconfig eth0:1 ipaddress |
| 19:34 | <aloha-shin> | yea 1 dedi with 2 ips |
| 19:34 | <blackgoth> | done |
| 19:34 | <twb> | aloha-shin: you can make both IPs resolve to a single interface. |
| 19:34 | <aloha-shin> | how to do that twb? |
| 19:34 | <twb> | Generally you have to configure the upstream router. |
| 19:35 | <aloha-shin> | I only need this dedi just to run private ragnarok online server... |
| 19:35 | <blackgoth> | twb: you are making it way to hard for this kid |
| 19:35 | <aloha-shin> | nothing else |
| 19:35 | <blackgoth> | all he wants is 2 ip's to be resolvable |
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| 19:36 | <debacle> | Hi, i'd like run mrtg on my debian box ... can anyone tell me if i have to install snmpd first ? |
| 19:36 | <blackgoth> | aloha-shin: eth0 is setup correctly? |
| 19:36 | <aloha-shin> | what is the command? |
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| 19:37 | <aloha-shin> | how to view the eth0? |
| 19:38 | <blackgoth> | ifconfig eth0 |
| 19:38 | <klh[dodo]> | as root ... |
| 19:38 | <blackgoth> | can you ping your server, can you reach it? |
| 19:38 | <aloha-shin> | not only ping but im now login as root |
| 19:39 | <blackgoth> | okay, in that case, just do this |
| 19:39 | <blackgoth> | ifconfig eth0:1 ipaddress |
| 19:39 | <aloha-shin> | debian:~# ifconfig eth0 |
| 19:39 | <aloha-shin> | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:17:77:e1:04 |
| 19:39 | <aloha-shin> | inet addr:38.100.236.154 Bcast:38.100.236.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 19:39 | <aloha-shin> | inet6 addr: fe80::216:17ff:fe77:e104/64 Scope:Link |
| 19:39 | <aloha-shin> | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 |
| 19:39 | -!- | aloha-shin was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 19:39 | <blackgoth> | where ipaddress is the second ip you got. |
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| 19:40 | <aloha-shin> | i was kick |
| 19:40 | <aloha-shin> | omg |
| 19:40 | <blackgoth> | no, really? |
| 19:40 | <blackgoth> | /sarcasm |
| 19:40 | <aloha-shin> | I pasted the |
| 19:40 | <aloha-shin> | then the antibot kick me |
| 19:40 | <witte> | aloha-shin: don't past here |
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| 19:40 | <aloha-shin> | the antibot kick me |
| 19:40 | <witte> | !nice bot |
| 19:41 | <aloha-shin> | im not a bot |
| 19:41 | <blackgoth> | nevermind the bot. your second ip, is that 38.100.236.155? |
| 19:41 | <aloha-shin> | 153 |
| 19:41 | <blackgoth> | okay |
| 19:41 | <blackgoth> | just do ifconfig eth0:1 38.100.236.153 |
| 19:42 | <aloha-shin> | going to type that? |
| 19:42 | <blackgoth> | yes... |
| 19:42 | <aloha-shin> | ifconfig eth0:1 38.100.236.153 |
| 19:42 | <aloha-shin> | ok |
| 19:42 | <aloha-shin> | al already enter |
| 19:42 | <aloha-shin> | nothing happen |
| 19:42 | <blackgoth> | as it should |
| 19:42 | <aloha-shin> | nothing happen |
| 19:43 | <blackgoth> | try to ping the address |
| 19:43 | <aloha-shin> | ok |
| 19:43 | <blackgoth> | from here, in the netherlands it's up |
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| 19:43 | <blackgoth> | to make this permanent, take a good look at the interfaces manpage and google. |
| 19:44 | <aloha-shin> | its working |
| 19:44 | <aloha-shin> | i can now login with that ip |
| 19:44 | <blackgoth> | i know it's working.. |
| 19:44 | <aloha-shin> | what do u mean permanent??? |
| 19:44 | <blackgoth> | but when you reboot, it wont work anymore, so if you want it to stay that way, have fun searching. |
| 19:44 | <aloha-shin> | does this mean when i reboot the server the ip will be gone? |
| 19:45 | <blackgoth> | yep |
| 19:45 | <blackgoth> | i helped you with the first part, now it's up to you. |
| 19:45 | <aloha-shin> | ok thanks |
| 19:46 | <twb> | 09:41 <blackgoth> just do ifconfig eth0:1 38.100.236.153 |
| 19:46 | <twb> | blackgoth: does that set up vlan tagging? |
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| 19:46 | <debacle> | please, is there anyone using mrtg here ? |
| 19:46 | <blackgoth> | twb: he doesnt need vlan tagging. |
| 19:46 | <aloha-shin> | vlan tagging |
| 19:46 | <aloha-shin> | ? |
| 19:47 | <Laeborg> | any good problems to burn .vob, .img and .iso files? |
| 19:47 | <blackgoth> | !google vlan |
| 19:47 | <twb> | blackgoth: neat, I've never done quite this before. |
| 19:47 | <twb> | Obviously my understanding of IP is inadequate. |
| 19:47 | <aloha-shin> | !vlan |
| 19:47 | <dpkg> | it has been said that vlan is (virtual LAN) A VLAN is created when a bunch of physically connected ports are grouped together by network hardware that supports VLANs. These VLANs are each treated as completely separate entities and can only be joined together by a router. This scheme is useful for grouping departments together for security and minimizing network traffic. |
| 19:48 | <blackgoth> | it's only needed if your server is on multiple vlans, or is a vlan router |
| 19:48 | <blackgoth> | cq, a trunked connection |
| 19:49 | <aloha-shin> | !lan |
| 19:49 | <dpkg> | it has been said that lan is (Local Area Network) A small isolated network at one office location. Most office computers are connected to a LAN, but may also be connected to the Internet, or a WAN. |
| 19:49 | <aloha-shin> | !ifconfig |
| 19:49 | <dpkg> | ifconfig is used to configure or view your machine's network interfaces. use the -a option to view all of them, or man ifconfig for more. see also <ifup>, <ifdown>, <man interfaces>, or <interfaces> |
| 19:49 | <twb> | Strictly speaking, I wouldn't call InterNet a WAN. |
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| 19:49 | <blackgoth> | !tell aloha-shin tell |
| 19:50 | <aloha-shin> | what is that? tell alohashin tell? |
| 19:50 | -!- | muchan is now known as qq |
| 19:50 | <blackgoth> | !tell |
| 19:50 | <blackgoth> | just check your pm from dpkg |
| 19:50 | <aloha-shin> | no pm |
| 19:51 | <blackgoth> | stupid bot >< |
| 19:51 | <witte> | !tell aloha-shin about selftell |
| 19:51 | <blackgoth> | thanks witte |
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| 19:51 | <blackgoth> | back to the search of the lost usb stick |
| 19:52 | <aloha-shin> | i see |
| 19:52 | <witte> | blackgoth: but "!tell aloha-shin about msg the bot" would have been more appropriate probably |
| 19:53 | <blackgoth> | heh, I still need to get used to all the options in the bots |
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| 19:54 | <blackgoth> | blah, it's 01:54:31 and im installing a windows server |
| 19:54 | <blackgoth> | my life sucks sometimes |
| 19:55 | <azeem> | if it's 1:54PM, it's not so bad |
| 19:55 | <blackgoth> | AM. |
| 19:55 | <aloha-shin> | 7:56am here =D |
| 19:56 | <blackgoth> | you probably already had sleep and are younger. |
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| 19:58 | <Hideo> | damn the newest google earth still breaks in linux :( |
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| 20:01 | <codecaine> | im trying to suppress my taps with qsynaptics for my laptop touch pad but it says the driver not install how can I get it to reconize the driver? |
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| 20:06 | <blackgoth> | meh, i should buy some fans for my servar |
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| 20:12 | <d> | hi there |
| 20:12 | <d> | I want help with a tv tuner |
| 20:12 | <d> | I cannot find a driver for it :( and people say its not supported but maybe someone knows |
| 20:12 | <d> | :) |
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| 20:13 | <blackgoth> | oh yes, i have a driver for that one! right here. |
| 20:14 | <d> | hehe |
| 20:14 | <d> | sorry, its an HP Express Card Tv Tuner |
| 20:14 | <blackgoth> | got some lspci -v output? |
| 20:14 | <blackgoth> | preferrable on a textdump |
| 20:15 | <d> | I cannot see my card in lspci :( |
| 20:15 | <d> | its an express card/54 slot |
| 20:16 | <blackgoth> | it's a rebranded Hauppauge HVR-1500,http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/linux.html |
| 20:17 | <blackgoth> | so, it isnt supported at this moment, but it will be, soonish |
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| 20:21 | <blackgoth> | did that help you in any way d? |
| 20:23 | <d> | black:thanks, how do you know its a hauppauge |
| 20:23 | <blackgoth> | i used google |
| 20:24 | <d> | do you think that it would work if I compile itvt ? |
| 20:24 | <d> | ivtv sorry |
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| 20:25 | <blackgoth> | probably not, there are no drivers yet |
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| 20:26 | <primeight> | greetings and salutations |
| 20:26 | <d> | oh, i see :( sniff, hehe |
| 20:26 | <d> | thanks anyway |
| 20:27 | <primeight> | anyone here tried EVE online's linux port? |
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| 20:30 | <Nemoder> | primeight: their "port" consists of shipping it with wine |
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| 20:33 | <tark> | hi all i just got xmms from snapshot.debian.net deb package and would like to install it in lenny. unfortunately i get dependency problems even though xmms works fine, i'm stuck with broken dependency problems afterwards. i was wondering if there is any way to force the install. could anyone give me a clue ? |
| 20:34 | <themill> | tark: yes, use a different player |
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| 20:34 | <primeight> | rofl |
| 20:34 | <themill> | !xmms |
| 20:34 | <dpkg> | i guess xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. It has been removed from Debian (although it is still in etch), see http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms/news/20080302T105714Z.html For alternatives, look at xmms2, rhythmbox, amarok, exaile, songbird, quod libet ... see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons |
| 20:34 | <primeight> | Im confused, if XMMS works fine...why install it from a different repo? |
| 20:35 | <primeight> | !eve |
| 20:35 | <dpkg> | eve is, like, short for E V I L |
| 20:35 | <primeight> | !rofl |
| 20:35 | <d> | prime: try audacious |
| 20:35 | <tark> | because of broken dependencies it generates i can't use dpkg for anything else after that |
| 20:36 | <tark> | i did try audacious |
| 20:36 | <tark> | it's hell slow and my graphics card doesn't like it apparently |
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| 20:37 | <tark> | q is is there a way to force a .deb install ? |
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| 20:40 | <tark> | themill which player would you suggest ? |
| 20:40 | * | Nemoder is happy with audacious |
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| 20:41 | <themill> | tark: I use amarok, but if you're an xmms fan, it might not be to your taste |
| 20:42 | <tark> | looking for something light in deed |
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| 20:49 | <tark> | Nemoder is there any way to use xmms skins with audacious ? |
| 20:50 | <tark> | i think i did that once before can't recall how |
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| 20:53 | <diego> | Hi, can i get some help with wifi ? |
| 20:53 | <blackgoth> | mmm no. |
| 20:53 | <diego> | blackgoth: ok :P |
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| 20:55 | <diego> | my wifi works when I connect using network-manager-gnome, but I want it to work without it (so I dont need X) |
| 20:55 | <jignaciol> | anyone speak spanish ? |
| 20:55 | <diego> | yes, I speak spanish |
| 20:55 | <noflash> | !es |
| 20:55 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:55 | <jignaciol> | hola |
| 20:56 | <blackgoth> | diego: try iwconfig |
| 20:56 | <jignaciol> | tengo problemas configurando mi wireless |
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| 20:56 | <blackgoth> | jignaciol: #debian-es |
| 20:56 | <jignaciol> | es un intel |
| 20:56 | <diego> | jignaciol: que placa wifi tenes ? |
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| 20:56 | <diego> | 4965 ? |
| 20:56 | <noflash> | jignaciol, /join #debian-es |
| 20:56 | <jignaciol> | se cual es el paquete |
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| 20:56 | <azeem> | diego, jignaciol: this is an english chan |
| 20:56 | <jignaciol> | pero no logro hacerlo funcionar |
| 20:56 | <diego> | aptitude install iwlwifi |
| 20:56 | <noflash> | I guess it doesn't read |
| 20:56 | <jignaciol> | sorry diego |
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| 20:57 | <blackgoth> | oh crap, now we're fucked :+ |
| 20:57 | <Laeborg> | when i try to go into 'Configure VPN' and then 'Add' I get this error: 'No right VPN program found on our system' (Or something like that, have translated it from danish to english) |
| 20:57 | <jignaciol> | please give me an spanish channel |
| 20:57 | <azeem> | !es |
| 20:57 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:57 | <jignaciol> | el paquete es ipw3945 |
| 20:57 | <jignaciol> | pero no logro hacerlo funcionar |
| 20:57 | <diego> | jignaciol: it should be on the kernel |
| 20:57 | <diego> | what kernel do you have? |
| 20:57 | <diego> | uname -r ? |
| 20:57 | <diego> | 2.6+ ? |
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| 20:58 | <jignaciol> | 2.6.18-6 |
| 20:58 | <blackgoth> | heh, if he doesnt have 2.6.x he is still using woody |
| 20:58 | <jignaciol> | yes.. |
| 20:58 | <blackgoth> | that would be pritty messed up |
| 20:58 | <diego> | jignacio: its old ... |
| 20:58 | <diego> | try 2.6.24 |
| 20:58 | <azeem> | diego: it's the stable kernel |
| 20:59 | <azeem> | !ipw3945 |
| 20:59 | <dpkg> | If you're running a recent version of Debian (etch or greater), do the following: add <contrib> and <non-free> entries in your sources.list, "aptitude update && aptitude install ipw3945-modules-$(uname -r) firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d && modprobe ipw3945". If you're running Debian's 2.6.23 or newer, ask me about <iwlwifi>. See also <ipw3945-fu> |
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| 21:00 | <jignaciol> | ok |
| 21:00 | <jignaciol> | should i use lenny ? |
| 21:00 | <jignaciol> | got it... i going to try that |
| 21:00 | <jignaciol> | thanks |
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| 21:00 | <diego> | jignaciol: no problem :) suerte :) |
| 21:01 | <diego> | I need to put an static ip address in wlan0 |
| 21:01 | <diego> | but network-manager-gnome cannot do it |
| 21:01 | <diego> | :( |
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| 21:03 | <blackgoth> | diego: just let it connect, then ifconfig wlan0 ipaddress and add a route |
| 21:04 | <diego> | network-manager-gnome tries to connect but it cant if I dont have dhcp in the router |
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| 21:05 | <diego> | is there anyway to make debian use the wifi without this network-manager hehe |
| 21:05 | <blackgoth> | iwconfig it then |
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| 21:07 | <diego> | I created a file wpa_supplicant.conf with the passphrases |
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| 21:11 | <andre> | hi can anybody help me enconde a list of files with lame? like lame <list of files> .... |
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| 21:18 | <imau> | hi |
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| 21:19 | <imau> | trying to install nvidia drivers but m-a part tells me that kerner has xen virtualization software installed (kernel 2.6.25) do i need to compile a kernel or is there a workaround ? |
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| 21:21 | <qq> | imau: pick a kernel without xen than |
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| 21:21 | <imau> | that's the problem i think all 2.6.25 have it by default |
| 21:22 | <qq> | a 24 too? |
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| 21:24 | <imau> | haven't checked a 24 cause my wireless doesn't works on it |
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| 21:24 | <Generic> | is it possible to install ntfs-3g in woody? |
| 21:24 | <witte> | Generic: possible i don't know, but i think it wont be easy :-) |
| 21:25 | <Generic> | heh |
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| 21:25 | <witte> | Generic: why do you still use woody if i may ask? |
| 21:25 | <Generic> | It's what I have running on my winterm |
| 21:25 | <Generic> | and rebuilding sarge for the winterm is a pain in the butt |
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| 21:26 | <witte> | Generic: sarge is also old :P |
| 21:26 | <Generic> | heh, it's what I use for debootstrap |
| 21:27 | <Generic> | I'm working on expanding the uses of the winterm, and currently toying with a hotswap external ntfs drive |
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| 21:27 | <qq> | Generic: you may use sid also for debootstrap |
| 21:27 | <Generic> | ah |
| 21:28 | <Generic> | I kinda forgot about that |
| 21:28 | <qq> | hehe |
| 21:28 | <imau> | I will try with the 2.6.24 kernel then , just one question, to apply the modules to the kernel 2.6.24 i just need to have the symbolic link /usr/src/linux point to the right kernel ? right ? |
| 21:28 | <Generic> | I've been reading up on debootstrap, haven't used it in awhile |
| 21:28 | <Generic> | how difficult would upgrading woody be? |
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| 21:28 | <qq> | imau: yes |
| 21:29 | <Generic> | last time I changed the repos in sources.list, the system exploded in a fiery kernel panic |
| 21:29 | <witte> | !woody-sarge |
| 21:29 | <witte> | !woody->sarge |
| 21:29 | <imau> | qq : thx for the help :) |
| 21:29 | <qq> | np |
| 21:29 | <witte> | mmm, no dpkg help on this one |
| 21:29 | <witte> | Generic: if you have internet connection, changing sources, and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:29 | <Generic> | witte, hmm |
| 21:30 | <Generic> | I guess I'll try that |
| 21:30 | <witte> | Generic: that should work in principle |
| 21:30 | <Generic> | I've got a copy of the install in a tar somewhere |
| 21:30 | <Generic> | witte, exactly :P |
| 21:30 | <witte> | Generic: but I would first go to oldstable (sarge) before going to stable (etch) |
| 21:30 | <Generic> | I'll give it a shot |
| 21:30 | <witte> | Generic: probably you still have a 2.2 kernel? |
| 21:30 | <jn> | How can I supply --force-yes to the debian installer? |
| 21:30 | <Generic> | 2.4 |
| 21:31 | <abrotman> | jn: you sohldn't have to |
| 21:31 | <witte> | Generic: well, you will end up with 2.6.18 or so |
| 21:31 | <Generic> | hmm |
| 21:31 | <Generic> | eh, worth a shot |
| 21:32 | <Generic> | might lose the modules loaded in the kernel though |
| 21:32 | <jn> | I get the ... cannot be authenticated' when installing initramfs-tools |
| 21:32 | <Generic> | but it's all on a flashdrive, so worst case I just plug it in and fix via chroot |
| 21:32 | <Generic> | !repositories > me |
| 21:33 | <witte> | !tell Generic about repositories |
| 21:33 | <Generic> | heh |
| 21:33 | <witte> | or did that work? |
| 21:33 | <Generic> | nah |
| 21:33 | <Generic> | I haven't touched the sources in awhile, so I don't remember what the new ones are |
| 21:33 | <Generic> | using debian-archive |
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| 21:36 | <qq> | jn: apt-get install debian-keyrings |
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| 21:39 | <jn> | qq: there is only apt-install available, but no debian-keyrings |
| 21:40 | <abrotman> | ignore the warning for now |
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| 21:42 | <jn> | the base system install aborts when I get that warning |
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| 21:43 | <qq> | jn: what you want to install? |
| 21:43 | <qq> | which system ? |
| 21:44 | <jn> | etch |
| 21:44 | <qq> | and on which arch ? pc |
| 21:44 | <jn> | 20070308etch2 |
| 21:44 | <jn> | i386 |
| 21:44 | <qq> | ok |
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| 21:44 | <blackgoth> | well, no sleep for me tonight |
| 21:45 | <qq> | jn: is the last iso from etch |
| 21:45 | <qq> | ? |
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| 21:45 | <jn> | it is the current on my mirror |
| 21:46 | <cwood> | How do I catch a log of something useful when an application (eg Audacious) segfaults at unpredictable intervals? |
| 21:47 | <blackgoth> | good question |
| 21:47 | <blackgoth> | no idea. |
| 21:47 | <blackgoth> | :P |
| 21:47 | <jn> | i use the mini.iso from netboot |
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| 21:47 | <witte> | cwood: start it from the terminal, maybe some messages are spawned there... |
| 21:48 | <cwood> | Hm, Good point. |
| 21:48 | <qq> | jn: look here for a image http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ |
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| 21:49 | <witte> | cwood: you could also strace it, but that could lead to a really big log file |
| 21:49 | <cwood> | I have the gb, but I'm not sure I want to wait for the day or several of music before it crashes again. :p |
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| 22:03 | <diego> | Hi, I just configured my wireless in /etc/network/interfaces and now some programs cannot connect to internet, I was using network-manager-gnome, can it be doing something wrong now |
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| 22:07 | <witte> | diego: some programs can and some cant? |
| 22:07 | <diego> | witte: i know what is happening |
| 22:07 | <diego> | network-manager-gnome thinks its not connected now |
| 22:08 | <diego> | and firefox always starts in offline mode |
| 22:08 | <diego> | because of it |
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| 22:09 | <diego> | if I kill networkmanager it starts working |
| 22:09 | <witte> | diego: strange |
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| 22:12 | <yury> | linux should automatically detect if a route stops working, right? so if I do route add default gw 10.0.0.1; route add default gw 192.168.0.1 metric 1, it should fallback to 192.168.0.1 when 10.0.0.1 stops working. Am I missing some detail here? |
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| 22:17 | <qq> | yury: network update take some time |
| 22:17 | <yury> | I waited 1 min |
| 22:17 | <yury> | too short? |
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| 22:18 | <yury> | and send about 60 pings out |
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| 22:19 | * | yury tries again |
| 22:21 | <Generic> | oh great, I broke bash |
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| 22:21 | <Generic> | I've got this error when running apt: chmod: invalid mode: --reference=/etc/shells |
| 22:22 | <nevyn> | it's trying to set the permissions on a file based on the permissions of a directory is my guess |
| 22:23 | <qq> | Generic: have to post it on bash forum |
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| 22:23 | <Desperado> | well...I'm a newbie on Debian...and I'm now wondering what's gonna do next...I've installed emacs23 and didn't configure it and vim..and didn't configured it and don't know how to use them... |
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| 22:24 | <qq> | Desperado: google for that |
| 22:24 | <witte> | Desperado: emacs23 is not in debian as far as i know |
| 22:25 | <abrotman> | certainly not in etch |
| 22:25 | <Desperado> | I make it myself....of course...under the instruction googled from internet |
| 22:25 | <qq> | even in sid ... |
| 22:26 | <Generic> | well, that didn't work too well |
| 22:26 | <Generic> | time to rebuild the winterm os! |
| 22:26 | <witte> | Desperado: why are you building yourself if you are using debian? and if you start using it, just use the basic version that comes with the system. if you want to learn it, google for emacs or vim tutorial |
| 22:27 | <witte> | Generic: what problems do you have |
| 22:27 | <Generic> | witte, I attempted an upgrade from woody to sarge on a slimmed down install |
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| 22:27 | <Generic> | I've got 3 packages that won't upgrade |
| 22:27 | <Desperado> | ...cuz I have to use the unicode advantage of emacs23 |
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| 22:28 | <Desperado> | I have to support chinese in emacs |
| 22:28 | <yury> | it is not happening, no default route fallback |
| 22:28 | <Generic> | witte, http://pastebin.ca/1022406 |
| 22:29 | <yury> | waited a while, sent a lot of pings through both interfaces, one works, but doesn't become default |
| 22:29 | <witte> | Generic: which 3? |
| 22:29 | <Generic> | witte, bash, procps, ppp |
| 22:31 | <Desperado> | witte, |
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| 22:34 | <jn> | qq: thx, got past that part now |
| 22:35 | <qq> | jn: np |
| 22:35 | <witte> | Desperado: ok, so you say you need it, and you have built it, just run the binairy (/usr/bin/emacs23? or /usr/local/bin/emacs23 or somewhere in home) |
| 22:35 | <yury> | qq: any other ideas? |
| 22:35 | <yury> | how long should this network update take? |
| 22:35 | <witte> | Generic: can't you install them manually? |
| 22:35 | <qq> | dunno |
| 22:35 | <qq> | jury |
| 22:35 | <witte> | Generic: just apt-get install bash |
| 22:36 | <Generic> | witte, I did, get the same error |
| 22:36 | <witte> | Generic: can you post the error to a pastebin? |
| 22:36 | <qq> | chmod: invalid mode: --reference=/etc/shells |
| 22:36 | <Generic> | what qq said |
| 22:37 | <Generic> | and I mentioned the link up a ways |
| 22:37 | <Generic> | http://pastebin.ca/1022406 |
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| 22:38 | <Desperado> | witte: I can run emacs23 on my machine...just can't configure it right.... |
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| 22:38 | <yury> | alright, found my answer |
| 22:38 | <yury> | http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/dgd-usage.txt |
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| 22:38 | <Desperado> | witte: well...I'd google it first... |
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| 22:39 | <Desperado> | witte:but my question is that I dont know what to do next.... |
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| 22:41 | <Desperado> | and also I'm desperate to make a beautiful interface.....I mean beautiful desktop....X Window.....If I want those beautiful things i have to write it myself |
| 22:42 | <witte> | Generic: you could have a look in the bash...postinst file (located in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 22:43 | <witte> | Desperado: providing your configuration and answering the question what you need to do are not up to us I guess... it is all depending on you and what you want |
| 22:43 | <witte> | Generic: you could locate the line which generates the error message, and try to circumvent that |
| 22:43 | <Desperado> | witte:sorry for that... |
| 22:44 | <Desperado> | witte:I'm not coming here for an answer either... |
| 22:44 | <qq> | Desperado: is your package than take care yourself on that |
| 22:44 | <Desperado> | witte: just kind of confused... |
| 22:45 | <Desperado> | witte:don't know what to do next |
| 22:45 | <qq> | abort |
| 22:45 | <Desperado> | qq:thx |
| 22:49 | <Generic> | yep, something is seriously broken, I can't uninstall bash :P |
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| 22:54 | <qq> | Generic: tried to put a newest bash file ? |
| 22:55 | <Generic> | qq, yep |
| 22:55 | <qq> | and ? |
| 22:55 | <Generic> | no dice |
| 22:55 | <qq> | install dice |
| 22:56 | <qq> | too |
| 22:56 | <Generic> | I'm building an etch system to replace it |
| 22:56 | <Generic> | so, no real biggie |
| 22:56 | <qq> | this term has a harddisk ? |
| 22:57 | <qq> | sorry dunno what is win term |
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| 22:58 | <Generic> | heh |
| 22:58 | <Generic> | winterm is a really light-weight machine that runs windows ce |
| 22:59 | <Generic> | I found a wintermlinux project, and loaded a modified firmware that boots linux off a flashdrive |
| 22:59 | <qq> | whitch proc/ram/hard has |
| 23:00 | <qq> | so only has a ram ? whitch proc ? |
| 23:00 | <Generic> | 233Mhz Geode, 32MB ram, and 16MB flash memory |
| 23:00 | <qq> | ok |
| 23:00 | <Generic> | I have a 2GB flash drive plugged into the back that the os runs off of |
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| 23:02 | <qq> | so why don't install a more recent dist on the flash ? |
| 23:02 | <Hideo> | Debian, please don't ever obsolete ifupdown for some automatic GUI tools |
| 23:03 | <nevyn> | networkmanager is awesome! :0 |
| 23:03 | <Hideo> | well from what apt-cache says, it's a daemon |
| 23:03 | <qq> | Generic: means not upgrading the old one |
| 23:03 | <Hideo> | no thanks |
| 23:04 | <Generic> | qq, main reason was because the kernel patch for the winterm is 2.4.31 |
| 23:04 | <mysupper> | I'm sure ifdown will not be obsolete till debian is operating as server os. |
| 23:04 | <Generic> | plus I'm using an existing image and was trying to customize it |
| 23:05 | <Hideo> | mysupper: I hope not, I really love it over every other GUI network config tool |
| 23:05 | <Generic> | didn't work too well :p |
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| 23:06 | <qq> | Generic: well , the main issue on that winterm is his poor memory ... |
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| 23:07 | <Generic> | qq, pretty much. all it would do is run samba and rtorrent, which aren' |
| 23:07 | <Generic> | aren't very resource hungry with one user |
| 23:07 | <qq> | ok |
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| 23:09 | <qq> | i means for the newest systems not for users |
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| 23:10 | <Generic> | ah |
| 23:10 | <Generic> | yeah, debian doesn't require much in resources when configured properly |
| 23:10 | <qq> | the newest need at least 64 MB |
| 23:11 | <Hideo> | heh I had a Debian server with ~100mb once |
| 23:11 | <qq> | me too |
| 23:11 | <Hideo> | no swap |
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| 23:11 | <Hideo> | it ran just fine with lighttpd and ssh |
| 23:11 | <Generic> | Yeah, I'm going to be stripping it down and removes services |
| 23:12 | <Generic> | I'm also going to run 2.4 instead |
| 23:12 | <nevyn> | does anyone know what generates /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key |
| 23:12 | <nevyn> | or how to re-generate it? |
| 23:12 | <Hideo> | make-ssl-cert |
| 23:12 | <Hideo> | type man make-ssl-cert |
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| 23:14 | <qq> | Hideo: Generic's machine run all in ram |
| 23:14 | <qq> | or so |
| 23:14 | <Generic> | yep |
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| 23:15 | <nevyn> | Hideo: does the updated ssl package regenerate the snakeoil cert automatically? |
| 23:15 | <Hideo> | qq: sweet |
| 23:15 | <Hideo> | nevyn: I don't know |
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| 23:20 | <qq> | nevyn: when updated ssl , you are asked if you want to trust old , or add a new on to the ring |
| 23:20 | <nevyn> | qq: ta |
| 23:20 | <Hideo> | it's not that hard to "make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil --force-overwrite" anyway |
| 23:20 | <qq> | sure |
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| 23:21 | <nevyn> | Hideo: sure and I did for justin |
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| 23:23 | <Hideo> | yeah better safe than sorry |
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| 23:32 | <aloha-shin> | hello all |
| 23:32 | <Hideo> | hi there |
| 23:34 | <twb> | How can I disable the "Switch User" feature in GNOME? |
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| 23:34 | <qq> | twb: why ? |
| 23:35 | <twb> | qq: I've been handed a security requirement that users not be able to start a second X session. |
| 23:35 | <aloha-shin> | where is NinjaMan |
| 23:36 | <Hideo> | twb: I don't know if the options in gdmsetup are what you're looking for or not |
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| 23:38 | <Hideo> | there's a thing that says "disable multiple logins for a single user" |
| 23:38 | * | Hideo shrugs |
| 23:39 | <Hideo> | <-- not a gnome user so I don't know if that is equivalent or not |
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| 23:43 | <twb> | Hideo: I'm not sure GDM is responsible for starting the secondary X servers. |
| 23:44 | <Hideo> | you're right, but GDM should prevent them from login in to that second session, shouldn't it? |
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| 23:46 | <Generic> | um, crap |
| 23:46 | <Generic> | fairly stupid question. When compiling a new kernel, how does one specify the arch? |
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| 23:46 | <ntbnnt> | its in the config |
| 23:46 | <ntbnnt> | you can create a custom string as well |
| 23:47 | <twb> | Hideo: it's not necessarily the same login on the second X session |
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| 23:48 | <Generic> | ntbnnt, that's the tricky part, it's presenting only 64-bit options |
| 23:49 | <Generic> | I'm running a 64-bit kernel, but I'm doing a chroot setup of a system |
| 23:49 | <Generic> | and that system is 32-bit |
| 23:49 | <ntbnnt> | Generic, thats strange, in that case I have no clue :/ |
| 23:50 | <twb> | Generic: perhaps you need make CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m32" config |
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| 23:50 | <twb> | You will also obviously need a biarch arch (e.g. AMD64, but not IA64) and the i386 build stuff installed |
| 23:51 | <Generic> | bah |
| 23:51 | <Generic> | I hate doing chroot |
| 23:52 | <Generic> | it's convinced all the tools are amd64 when it's all i386 |
| 23:52 | <twb> | Tell me about it |
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| 23:52 | <Generic> | I'll do this on my laptop |
| 23:52 | <interbird> | twb: to get rid of the "switch user", or to create a new user with a gnome-desktop of your preferred config, you could adjust /etc/skel |
| 23:52 | <twb> | Trying to install sun-java6 in a chroot fails because it checks /proc/self/exe to find out where it lives, and that symlink isn't chrooted |
| 23:52 | <twb> | interbird: how, specifically? |
| 23:53 | <Generic> | it'll take way longer to compile though, it's a 1.2Ghz celeron, and I'm running a 2.6Ghz athlonX2 |
| 23:53 | <twb> | Generic: you could reboot the workstation in i386 mode, e.g. with a live cd |
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| 23:54 | <interbird> | twb: create a "template" user, customize the desktop, trash all shit, chown it root:root and use that in place of the default /etc/skel; not pretty but functional. You'll have to do some filtering... |
| 23:55 | <twb> | interbird: the fast-user-switch popup is created by an acpid event, not by any widget on the desktop |
| 23:55 | <twb> | Furthermore, if a user manages to get access to a shell, they can launch the popup by hand. |
| 23:56 | <Generic> | twb, true |
| 23:56 | <Generic> | oh wait, just remembered i've got a second machine that i could use |
| 23:56 | <Hideo> | twb: so you don't want more than 1 X session running at anytime |
| 23:56 | <Hideo> | ? |
| 23:56 | <twb> | Thus, the solution cannot be to remove icons on their desktop; instead I must either remove the binary itself (undesirable, since it is also responsible for allowing the user to shut down/reboot/log out), or to configure it. |
| 23:56 | <Generic> | it's a bit better, 2.2Ghz athlon64, it's running i386 |
| 23:57 | <twb> | Hideo: yes. Xnest/Xephyr is allowed, but not necessary. |
| 23:57 | <interbird> | twb: it's a panel applet; if you remove it in the template and create a user from that it will not be there; you might even be able to accomplish this by using gconf. |
| 23:57 | <Hideo> | I've been googling that and can't find it sadly |
| 23:57 | <twb> | interbird: I remain unconvinced that your solution is acceptable; please hold while I confirm this experimentally. |
| 23:58 | <interbird> | twb: ok, step 1 create a template user: template |
| 23:58 | <twb> | Confirmed, removing the applet from the desktop does not help. |
| 23:58 | <interbird> | twb: step 2 login with this user and cistomize the gnome desktop |
| 23:59 | <interbird> | twb: step3 mv /etc/skel /etc/skel.saved |
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| 23:59 | <twb> | interbird: plonk. You are not listening; I just tested your proposed solution and it DOES NOT WORK. |
| --- | Log | closed Mon May 19 00:00:35 2008 |
