| --- | Log | opened Wed May 28 00:00:18 2008 |
| 00:00 | <hachi> | wow, I doubt the package maintainer of this debian package I'm trying to build creates a new control file every time they want to build it |
| 00:02 | <gnome> | http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ |
| 00:02 | <hachi> | found it, the answer is 'yada' |
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| 00:35 | <pinksock> | man software raid is a pain to set up |
| 00:35 | <pinksock> | seems like something would have been developed to simply mirror the drives |
| 00:35 | <pinksock> | rediculous |
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| 00:50 | <StevenX> | If I use the "sleep" command and close the terminal, will it still execute? How about if I turn off the computer, but turn it back on before the sleep command is supposed to execute? |
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| 00:55 | <pinksock> | hola |
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| 01:59 | <tor> | Hi, i have some problems with sudo in a web application. I have a script that the www-data user executes with sudo. This have worked nicely up till now. I run this on a new platform, Debian Etch on PPC. And suddenly i get password requests in the web log. Running it on the command line as su www-data works nicely still though. Any thoughts? |
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| 02:40 | <hachi> | if I provide a package, do I need to conflict with that package as well? in typical usage |
| 02:41 | <jaakko> | hachi: Could you explain a little bit more? why would you need "confict" something? |
| 02:41 | <hachi> | cause I'm providing it |
| 02:42 | <hachi> | I dunno if saying Provides: foo, when foo is already installed, if it will cause it to be removed |
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| 02:44 | <jm_> | Provides is useful for meta packages |
| 02:44 | <jaakko> | hachi: you are wondering if all packages "are conflicting" with themselves? I don't think they are, aptitude just don't install same package twice. |
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| 02:44 | <hachi> | I'm making a package 'foo-hachi' |
| 02:44 | <hachi> | which is effectively a branch of foo, so I can get things done by fixing it myself |
| 02:45 | <hachi> | so, I'm pretty sure I say 'Provides: foo' |
| 02:45 | <hachi> | so that packages can still require foo |
| 02:45 | <jm_> | 7.4 Virtual packages - Provides |
| 02:45 | <jm_> | read that |
| 02:47 | <hachi> | I'm asking because I don't grok it |
| 02:47 | <hachi> | there are enough clauses in that which I don't know if they apply |
| 02:48 | <hachi> | I don't think it even says |
| 02:48 | <jm_> | you obviously don't understand the concept of virtual packages and provides field |
| 02:49 | <hachi> | no, apparently I don't |
| 02:49 | <hachi> | thus why I asked a question |
| 02:49 | <hachi> | given the example there |
| 02:49 | <jm_> | what you are trying to do is not that - I think you simply need to make a package with the same name but your own, higher version to use your changed one |
| 02:49 | <hachi> | can bar and bar-plus be installed at the same time? or does the Provides:bar cause an implicit conflict? |
| 02:50 | <weasel> | why would it provide a conflict? |
| 02:50 | <weasel> | *think* about what provides means. |
| 02:50 | <hachi> | I don't think, I'm asking |
| 02:50 | <hachi> | if you loko back to my original question |
| 02:50 | <weasel> | then do apt-cache show vim | grep -i Prov |
| 02:50 | <weasel> | then *THINK* |
| 02:50 | <weasel> | and if you still don't get it, then I'm not sure what to think myself. |
| 02:51 | <weasel> | (not that the thought of only having a single editor isn't appealing, but ..) |
| 02:51 | <hachi> | editor is a bad example though |
| 02:51 | <weasel> | no, it's not. |
| 02:51 | <hachi> | if you want to know what I'm actually doing |
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| 02:51 | <hachi> | I'm trying to make a fork of fakechroot |
| 02:52 | <weasel> | it's a prime examply of what Provides is for. |
| 02:52 | <hachi> | except the docs which you plugged (in a roundabout way of plugging) already say things about concrete packages by the same name |
| 02:52 | <hachi> | which means you can do the same thing against a real package |
| 02:53 | <hachi> | the 'virtual package' only has to be from one point of view |
| 02:53 | <hachi> | and I happen to be trying to make fakechroot-hachi provide fakechroot, which happens to be a virtual package in this context |
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| 02:54 | <jaakko> | hachi: apt-cache show nano | grep -i Prov |
| 02:54 | <jaakko> | hachi: both packages provide editor, nano and vim, they are not conflicting as you see(?). |
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| 02:55 | <hachi> | but you can install both of them, right? |
| 02:55 | <jaakko> | hachi: yes. |
| 02:55 | <hachi> | and yet, the docs in 7.4 says '(or the conflict caused)', which means that in some case Provides: can cause a conflict to occur |
| 02:55 | <weasel> | no. |
| 02:55 | <weasel> | provides doesn't cause conflicts. |
| 02:55 | <weasel> | conflicts cause conflicts. |
| 02:56 | <weasel> | like when you all provide /usr/sbin/sendmail |
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| 02:56 | <weasel> | see postfix, sendmail, ssmtp, etc. |
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| 02:56 | <hachi> | ahh, okay |
| 02:57 | <weasel> | tho in your case you probably just want to divert crap |
| 02:57 | <hachi> | nope |
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| 02:57 | <hachi> | I just want to Provide and Conflict |
| 02:58 | <weasel> | that's now also broken. |
| 02:58 | <weasel> | you want to divert the files you have in common with the real fakechroot. |
| 02:58 | <weasel> | or you need to conflict/replace. |
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| 02:59 | <hachi> | could you please expand on 'that's now also broken.' ? |
| 02:59 | <weasel> | I did. |
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| 03:00 | <hachi> | if you're saying that Provides: fakechroot\nConflicts: fakechroot is a broken concept, then I'm looking for the working equivalent |
| 03:01 | <weasel> | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html |
| 03:01 | <weasel> | 7.3 |
| 03:01 | <hachi> | Replaces: seems to imply supercession, which I don't want to imply |
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| 03:01 | <weasel> | ah, whatever |
| 03:01 | <weasel> | go read the fucking policy yourself |
| 03:01 | <weasel> | I'm sick of reading it to you |
| 03:01 | <hachi> | sorry for asking questions about clarity |
| 03:01 | <weasel> | it's not about clarity |
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| 03:01 | <hachi> | yes it is, you're claiming that I didn't read the policy |
| 03:02 | <weasel> | I'm pretty sure you didn't. |
| 03:02 | <weasel> | at least not properly |
| 03:02 | <hachi> | I'm claiming that I just don't quite get it |
| 03:02 | <weasel> | you don't get it by a long shot. not just don't quite not. |
| 03:02 | <hachi> | how precisely am I supposed to get out of my situation apart from asking questions? |
| 03:02 | <weasel> | anyway, I don't intent to waste more time here. read the policy. good luck. |
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| 03:10 | <morgan`> | hello |
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| 04:19 | <twb> | What's the magic work to get dpkg's apt-key oneliner? |
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| 04:22 | <jm_> | !!apt-key twb |
| 04:22 | <jm_> | !apt-key twb |
| 04:22 | <dpkg> | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys twb ; gpg --export twb | sudo apt-key add - |
| 04:22 | <jm_> | that one? |
| 04:22 | <twb> | I bloody tried that! |
| 04:22 | <twb> | !apt-key |
| 04:23 | <twb> | Grr, that should say "shift: insufficient parameters" or something |
| 04:23 | <jm_> | !keys for apt |
| 04:23 | <dpkg> | keys for apt is, like, 'gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -', where <keyid> is the id apt is complaining about |
| 04:23 | <twb> | Thanks, anyway |
| 04:23 | <jm_> | did you run apt-get update? |
| 04:23 | <twb> | I'm actually trying to trick debmirror into working. |
| 04:25 | <twb> | It (wrongly, IMO) looks at ~/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg |
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| 04:50 | <twb> | I found the trouble, the manual assumes I'm mirroring Debian not Ubuntu |
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| 04:56 | <Woet> | Could someone help me install 2 SSH servers besides eachother? |
| 04:56 | <Woet> | or run 2 besides eachother, which is what I want. |
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| 04:56 | <tarzeau> | Woet: you install openssh-server and dropbear, run one on another port? |
| 04:57 | <Woet> | dropbear? |
| 04:57 | <tarzeau> | yes |
| 04:57 | <tarzeau> | or the gnu ssh server |
| 04:57 | <twb> | tarzeau: GNU maintains an SSH server, different from OpenSSH? |
| 04:58 | <tarzeau> | twb: i thought so, yes, lsshsomething? |
| 04:58 | <twb> | Never heard of it. |
| 04:58 | <tarzeau> | twb: lsh-server |
| 04:58 | <twb> | Woet: what do you mean by "besides each other"? |
| 04:58 | <tarzeau> | twb: lsh is GNU GPL'd implementation of the Secure Shell |
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| 04:58 | <twb> | Woet: do you just want sshd to listen to two ports? |
| 04:58 | <Woet> | that I have 2 SSH servers which are identical, but run on another ports |
| 04:58 | <Woet> | Yea. |
| 04:58 | <tarzeau> | then you just configure it right |
| 04:58 | <twb> | Perhaps sshd_config allows that from a single sshd instance |
| 04:59 | <tarzeau> | twb: yes it does |
| 04:59 | <tarzeau> | twb: just mention another port |
| 04:59 | <Woet> | I want to run it on 2 ports, with different AllowUser lines |
| 04:59 | <Woet> | thats all |
| 04:59 | <twb> | Woet: ah, that's different |
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| 05:00 | <twb> | Woet: so what you'd do is copy /etc/ssh to /etc/ssh2 and /etc/init.d/openssh-server to ...2, and edit the second init script to start with the different config file. |
| 05:00 | <twb> | IMO that'd be better than having two different SSH implementations on the server. |
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| 05:14 | <RoboShim> | Hi all, I really need help with apt_preferences. I thought I understand it , but probably not. I need to disable upgrade of specific version of package, in my situation I would like to disable upgrade following packages: linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-686 linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-686 linux-modules-2.6.18-6-xen-686. Currently installed version of these packages is 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch4 and there is an upgrade 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5. |
| 05:15 | <twb> | !tell RoboShim about pinning |
| 05:15 | <twb> | HTH |
| 05:16 | <RoboShim> | I have tried already to write preferences: Package: linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-686 Pin: release l=Debian-Security Pin-Priority: -10 for these packages, but it does not work. Using Pin: version does neither work. But for Package: * Pin: release l=Debian-Security Pin-Priority: -10 it works and do not upgrade anything. But I would like to skip only this specific version 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5, but next version (probably 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch6) I would like to |
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| 05:18 | <RoboShim> | Hmmm, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning doesn't help, man apt_preferences too. OK, I will ask other way. Is it possible to ignore only one version of package upgrade? I think I don't need the 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5 upgrade and I would like to skip this upgrade and wait to next upgrade. |
| 05:18 | <RoboShim> | ? |
| 05:19 | <RoboShim> | btw: the system is etch stable + etc security upgrades, no backports, no volatile. |
| 05:19 | <panthera> | put the package on hold. |
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| 05:19 | <panthera> | however, stable updates (and especially stable security updates) are strongly recommendet. |
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| 05:24 | <RoboShim> | panthera: I make upgrades, but kernel is one of packages, which cannot be simply upgraded on production server, and kernel for XEN totaly not. I did an upgrade to version 18etch4 yesterday, and today I have again new upgrade. And according to changelog, this upgrade is not urgent for me, so I would like to wait. I will try it with HOLD. thank you. |
| 05:25 | <RoboShim> | But, HOLD - does it mean, it holds the current version forever but still shows there are packages to upgrade? |
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| 05:26 | <padski> | RoboShim, (in theory at least) you could do a rolling upgrade with a cluster of xen servers. |
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| 05:29 | <Guest200> | hello |
| 05:29 | <Guest200> | how tr u |
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| 05:38 | <padski> | RoboShim, and perhaps see also ksplice |
| 05:39 | <Guest200> | hello |
| 05:39 | <Guest200> | i am back |
| 05:39 | <Guest200> | talk to me |
| 05:39 | <Guest200> | i ma wating |
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| 05:40 | <Woet> | twb: so what do you exactly suggest I would do? |
| 05:40 | <Woet> | oh wait, you just explained me |
| 05:41 | <Woet> | sorry |
| 05:42 | <Woet> | twb: there is no 'openssh-server' in my /etc/init.d/ |
| 05:42 | <Woet> | there is 'ssh' though |
| 05:42 | <jm_> | that's the one |
| 05:43 | <Woet> | so, copy /etc/ssh /etc/ssh2 |
| 05:43 | <Woet> | and copy /etc/init.d/ssh to /etc/init.d/ssh2 |
| 05:45 | <Knight_Lord> | Is icedove(thunderbird) lacking xft fonts in sid? |
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| 05:46 | <Guest200> | hello |
| 05:46 | <Guest200> | so what gng on |
| 05:46 | <Guest200> | where r u from |
| 05:46 | <padski> | Guest200, this is #debian a support channel. ask your question. |
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| 06:32 | <Vojtech> | hello.How are? |
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| 06:36 | <variable> | hi |
| 06:37 | <variable> | i still couldn't to solve that problem with alsa:- after each reboot I need to reconfigure alsa. |
| 06:37 | <variable> | but when system is booting it writes that alsa is configured |
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| 06:43 | <variable> | help |
| 06:45 | <ffws|hathe|LT> | !ask |
| 06:45 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 06:48 | <variable> | ffws|hathe|LT, where ar you from? |
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| 06:50 | <Arjau> | I have a software application that requires the library libgtk-1.2.so.0. Can anybody tell me were to find it and how to install it? |
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| 06:51 | <variable> | apt-get install |
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| 06:51 | <brei> | hi. what's a painless way to print all (package name, package version, one-line description) triplets known to the package system? |
| 06:52 | <variable> | dpkg -l | more |
| 06:52 | <dpkg> | ii | more 2.3-5.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 06:54 | <brei> | that shows installed packages. i wanted to decorate the output of "aptitude search" with version numbers |
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| 06:55 | <variable> | sorry at this point i have nothing to say |
| 06:55 | <Woet> | jm_: can you help me a little more? |
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| 06:55 | <Woet> | the second SSH server fails to start |
| 06:55 | <brei> | variable: thx anyway :) |
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| 06:58 | <jm_> | Woet: check the logs |
| 06:59 | <Woet> | here? |
| 06:59 | <Woet> | where * |
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| 06:59 | <jm_> | uhm /var/log, that's where majority of logs ar |
| 06:59 | <Woet> | yea, but which file |
| 06:59 | <jm_> | brei: dpkg-awk or grep-available can help you |
| 06:59 | <jm_> | start it, then ls -lrt, the ones listed last |
| 07:02 | <Woet> | ok |
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| 07:03 | <Woet> | jm_: it doesnt say anything there |
| 07:04 | <Woet> | serverffs:/etc/init.d# ./ssh2 start |
| 07:04 | <Woet> | Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd |
| 07:04 | <Woet> | and its started |
| 07:04 | <Woet> | im not able to connect to the port though |
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| 07:05 | <jm_> | Woet: so it doesn't fail to start - what does it say when you connect? |
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| 07:05 | <Woet> | just nothing |
| 07:05 | <Woet> | connection refused |
| 07:05 | <jm_> | !connection refused |
| 07:05 | <dpkg> | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified ip address at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
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| 07:06 | <Woet> | i know. |
| 07:06 | <jm_> | so which it is? |
| 07:06 | <Woet> | the service is not running |
| 07:06 | <Woet> | but how the hell do I find out why? |
| 07:06 | <jm_> | start it with -Dd |
| 07:06 | <Woet> | nothing |
| 07:06 | <Woet> | serverffs:/etc/init.d# ./ssh2 start -Dd |
| 07:06 | <Woet> | Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd |
| 07:07 | <jm_> | no, you need to edit the script to specify options |
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| 07:07 | <Woet> | such as? |
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| 07:07 | <Woet> | May 28 13:05:38 serverffs sshd[1946]: Received signal 15; terminating. |
| 07:07 | <Woet> | May 28 13:05:42 serverffs sshd[785]: Server listening on :: port 2223. |
| 07:07 | <jm_> | ssh2 |
| 07:08 | <jm_> | if both are using /var/run/ssh that may pose a problem |
| 07:08 | <morphium> | lol, apt-get update just showed me: "Fetched 417kB in 49710d 6h28m14s (0B/s)" |
| 07:09 | <Woet> | oh, i see |
| 07:09 | <Woet> | i need to edit /etc/init.d/ssh2 |
| 07:09 | <jm_> | hmm /var/run/sshd.pid is more likely to be a problem |
| 07:09 | <Woet> | yea |
| 07:09 | <Woet> | shall I make sshd2.pid |
| 07:09 | <Woet> | ? |
| 07:09 | <jm_> | you can specify different pidfile in its config |
| 07:09 | <jm_> | no |
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| 07:10 | <Woet> | simply replace sshd.pid with sshd2.pid in /etc/init.d/ssh2 ? |
| 07:11 | <jm_> | and in ssh config file |
| 07:11 | <jm_> | sshd |
| 07:11 | <Woet> | ok |
| 07:12 | <Woet> | May 28 13:12:06 serverffs sshd[874]: error: Bind to port 2223 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. |
| 07:12 | <Woet> | May 28 13:12:06 serverffs sshd[874]: fatal: Cannot bind any address. |
| 07:12 | <Woet> | but it says port 2224 in sshd_config |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | you already have something using that port |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | !open ports |
| 07:12 | <dpkg> | i guess open ports is # netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or ask me about <open files>, or fuser -n tcp <portnumber> |
| 07:12 | <Woet> | jm_: read what I said |
| 07:12 | <Woet> | port 2223 is my current SSH server |
| 07:13 | <Woet> | i want ssh2 to run on 2224 |
| 07:13 | <jm_> | Woet: you failed to tell it which config file to use |
| 07:13 | <Woet> | how to tell it? |
| 07:13 | <jm_> | did you read man sshd? it specifies the option for that |
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| 07:15 | <Woet> | jm_: still the same |
| 07:15 | <Woet> | May 28 13:15:19 serverffs sshd[959]: error: Bind to port 2223 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. |
| 07:15 | <Woet> | May 28 13:15:19 serverffs sshd[959]: fatal: Cannot bind any address. |
| 07:15 | <Woet> | ./ssh2 start -f /etc/ssh2/sshd_config |
| 07:16 | <jm_> | you are not understanding how this work - you need to specify the option *in* ssh2 init script or in the defaults file it sources - i.e. /etc/default/ssh2 |
| 07:17 | <Woet> | ok |
| 07:17 | <Woet> | 'config' isnt in /etc/init.d/ssh2 |
| 07:17 | <jm_> | but SSHD_OPTS is |
| 07:18 | <jm_> | guess what it's for |
| 07:18 | <Woet> | i have no idea? |
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| 07:18 | <jm_> | then check the ssh2 init script and find out |
| 07:19 | <Woet> | # Default settings for openssh-server. This file is sourced by /bin/sh from |
| 07:19 | <Woet> | # /etc/init.d/ssh. |
| 07:19 | <Woet> | # Options to pass to sshd |
| 07:19 | <Woet> | SSHD_OPTS= |
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| 07:19 | <Woet> | and now? |
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| 07:19 | <Woet> | thats /etc/default/ssh2 btw |
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| 07:19 | <brei> | aptitude -F '%1p %V %d' search whatever |
| 07:19 | <jm_> | i said check ssh2 init script, not default/ssh2 |
| 07:19 | <Woet> | where the hell is the init script then |
| 07:20 | <Woet> | its in /etc/init.d/ssh2 |
| 07:20 | <Woet> | what to do with it? |
| 07:20 | <jm_> | we went through this about 5 minutes ago -- /etc/init.d/ssh |
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| 07:20 | <jm_> | are you always this slow? |
| 07:20 | <Woet> | err, no? |
| 07:20 | <althaser> | what happened with aptitude full-upgrade in sid ? did you realise anything ? |
| 07:20 | <Woet> | im asking you, what to do with it? |
| 07:20 | <Woet> | I just replaced sshd.pid with sshd2.pid in /etc/init.d/ssh2 |
| 07:20 | <Woet> | and now? |
| 07:20 | <jm_> | find out what it does with SSHD_OPTS - apply some logic, add 1 +1 |
| 07:21 | <Woet> | i have no clue what it does. |
| 07:21 | <jm_> | that's why you fucking read the script |
| 07:21 | <Woet> | it simply has 2 times $SSHD_OPTS in it |
| 07:21 | <Woet> | :-/ |
| 07:21 | <jm_> | bingo |
| 07:21 | <Woet> | so, cool, what now? |
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| 07:22 | <ussss> | привет |
| 07:22 | <jm_> | !ru |
| 07:22 | <dpkg> | i guess ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 07:23 | <Woet> | jagerman |
| 07:23 | <Woet> | oops |
| 07:23 | <Woet> | jm_: let me try again |
| 07:23 | <Woet> | I just removed every ssh2 thing I copied |
| 07:23 | <Woet> | what to do now, if I want to run another SSH server? |
| 07:24 | <jm_> | like already explained - you need to prepare config for it and an init script |
| 07:24 | <Woet> | please give me the commands to execute? |
| 07:24 | <jm_> | i can't be arsed doing that |
| 07:24 | <Woet> | :-/ |
| 07:24 | <Woet> | wish twb was still here |
| 07:25 | <jm_> | I doubt he would have hand held you |
| 07:25 | <Woet> | [11:01:15] <twb> Woet: so what you'd do is copy /etc/ssh to /etc/ssh2 and /etc/init.d/openssh-server to ...2, and edit the second init script to start with the different config file. |
| 07:25 | <Woet> | all I dont get is the last part |
| 07:25 | <Woet> | thats all. |
| 07:25 | <jm_> | I already tol dyou how to do that |
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| 07:25 | <Woet> | you said open the file and look at SSHD_OPTS |
| 07:26 | <Woet> | thats not explaining me how to do it. |
| 07:26 | <jm_> | that's one of the options yes |
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| 07:26 | <Woet> | so, I copied those files, and now im in /etc/init.d/ssh2 |
| 07:26 | <Woet> | what to change exactly. |
| 07:26 | <orjan> | I'm looking far a backup for win2k3 servers to a debian box, found dervish. Have anyone here used it and can recomend it or another backup program? |
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| 07:28 | <Woet> | jm_: what to change? |
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| 07:28 | <jm_> | Woet: make it so that sshd gets -f option on the command line |
| 07:29 | <Woet> | i start it with -f, doesnt work. |
| 07:29 | <jm_> | no you don't, you pass -f to init script _ I said 3 times that's not going to work |
| 07:29 | <jm_> | 13:16:54 <jm_> you are not understanding how this work - you need to specify the option *in* ssh2 init script or in the defaults file it sources - i.e. /etc/default/ssh2 |
| 07:30 | <Woet> | where in the init script do I put it then |
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| 07:30 | <jm_> | where it starts sshd is a very logical place |
| 07:30 | <Woet> | Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshdstart-stop-daemon: unrecognized option `--f' |
| 07:31 | <jm_> | wrong place on the command line, put it at the end |
| 07:31 | <jm_> | would be so much simpler starting it from inetd |
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| 07:32 | <Woet> | start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd -- $SSHD_OPTS --f /etc/ssh2/sshd_config |
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| 07:32 | <jm_> | where did you see it's called --f? |
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| 07:32 | <Woet> | man sshd |
| 07:33 | <Woet> | -f configuration_file |
| 07:33 | <Woet> | Specifies the name of the configuration file. The default is /etc/ssh/sshd_config. sshd refuses to start if there is no configuration file. |
| 07:33 | <jm_> | I only see -f there |
| 07:33 | <Woet> | did it with -f too |
| 07:33 | <Woet> | same result |
| 07:33 | <Woet> | nothing in the logs, no errors, connection refused. |
| 07:34 | <jm_> | impossible |
| 07:34 | <Woet> | should I change the pid file too? |
| 07:34 | <Woet> | (again) |
| 07:34 | <Woet> | it worked! |
| 07:34 | <Woet> | thanks a lot. |
| 07:36 | <variable> | what does it means that un infront of the list when i do dpkg -l |
| 07:37 | <jm_> | variable: read the description of those letters near the top of its output |
| 07:37 | <Woet> | jm_: I now have 'AllowUsers root' in /etc/ssh2/sshd_config |
| 07:37 | <Woet> | still allows me to login with any user |
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| 07:37 | <Woet> | i did ./ssh2 restart |
| 07:38 | <Woet> | i did ./ssh2 stop and start |
| 07:38 | <Woet> | reload and force-reload too |
| 07:38 | <Woet> | no change :-/ |
| 07:41 | <jm_> | Woet: then you have specified it in a file which sshd didn't read |
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| 07:43 | <Woet> | it does take the port from that port |
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| 07:43 | <Woet> | it does take the port from that file |
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| 07:43 | <jm_> | AllowUsers option definitely works for me, using -Dddd might reveal something |
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| 07:44 | <Woet> | May 28 13:44:05 serverffs sshd[1613]: error: Bind to port 2224 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use. |
| 07:44 | <Woet> | May 28 13:44:05 serverffs sshd[1613]: fatal: Cannot bind any address. |
| 07:44 | <Woet> | how to stop it properly? |
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| 07:44 | <Woet> | i did ./ssh2 stop |
| 07:44 | <Woet> | but its still running somehow |
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| 07:45 | <Woet> | fixed |
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| 07:59 | <Plazzmex> | how to enter a nano editor with root rights ? |
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| 08:00 | <sep> | type nano as root ? |
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| 08:00 | <paijo_caem> | hi |
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| 08:06 | <Plazzmex> | nad how to change the default loaded operating system in grub menu ? |
| 08:07 | <Knight_Lord> | If I send an email from A to A and A has a .forward is that email forwarded? |
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| 08:08 | <jm_> | Plazzmex: noticed the "default" keyword in its config file? |
| 08:09 | <Knight_Lord> | specifically if A has a \A in the .forward file |
| 08:09 | <Plazzmex> | jm: the file is menu.lst ? |
| 08:09 | <dataangel> | i just had something really odd happen. i had a bunch of files in the tmp directory and without me executing any sort of rm command all the files in that directory seem to be gone!!!! is there a cron task for that or something i should be aware of |
| 08:09 | <dataangel> | ? |
| 08:10 | <M0ffe> | dataangel: tmpreaper? |
| 08:10 | <Knight_Lord> | dataangel lots of programs can delete file in the tmp directory |
| 08:10 | <M0ffe> | dataangel: Also /tmp is purged during reboot |
| 08:10 | <dataangel> | heh . are you sure, its purged on reboot, hang on what the hell i will check |
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| 08:11 | <jm_> | Plazzmex: yes, for grub legacy |
| 08:11 | <Plazzmex> | jm: but why debian uses legacy grub and not grub2 ? |
| 08:12 | <jm_> | Plazzmex: because legacy is still more mature - you can get grub2 in lenny |
| 08:13 | <Plazzmex> | jm: i'm using etch now.. ok.. now.. you said ther is a default word in the menu.lst file.. there are many 'default' words |
| 08:14 | <enouf> | grub2 is still beta, not to mention etch doesn't change (except security fixes and such) |
| 08:14 | <Plazzmex> | so what things i need to change there so windows will be the default loaded operating system ? |
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| 08:15 | <enouf> | Plazzmex: see the Automagic area, read the comments |
| 08:15 | <Knight_Lord> | Plazzmex it's the first one in the list that gets loaded |
| 08:16 | <jm_> | Plazzmex: only one should be uncommented ... |
| 08:16 | <variable> | how to apgrade certain package |
| 08:16 | <enouf> | Plazzmex: as far as nano and root, install sudo, learn sudo, man sudoers |
| 08:16 | <variable> | *upgrade |
| 08:16 | <enouf> | variable: -u for apt-get |
| 08:16 | <variable> | thanks |
| 08:16 | <enouf> | variable: are you already using aptitude/synaptic in etch? |
| 08:17 | <variable> | i don't know |
| 08:17 | <enouf> | variable: stick with using aptitude if you have started |
| 08:17 | <enouf> | variable: /msg dpkg why aptitude , /msg dpkg grounding |
| 08:17 | <Plazzmex> | there is ## default grub root device ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0) # groot=(hd1,0) |
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| 08:17 | <variable> | what is that aptitude? |
| 08:18 | <Plazzmex> | jm_: where? |
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| 08:18 | <eRr0r> | ufy uig |
| 08:19 | <enouf> | Plazzmex: my bad, it's not in the Automagic area - see the line at top; default 0 |
| 08:19 | <Plazzmex> | enouf: ok.. so i need to change it to someting else? but how do i know what ? |
| 08:19 | <enouf> | Plazzmex: note, within automagic area only, lines starting with # are processed, lines starting with ## are comments |
| 08:20 | <enouf> | Plazzmex: count ;-) |
| 08:20 | <Plazzmex> | :-X |
| 08:20 | <Plazzmex> | how ? |
| 08:20 | <enouf> | Plazzmex: i need to go - hope i didn't mislead you or pass wrong info ... |
| 08:21 | <Plazzmex> | enouf: but how i change ? |
| 08:21 | <eRr0r> | jfg8 knbg |
| 08:21 | <enouf> | one last thing; dpkg -L grub and http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm for lots of useless info |
| 08:21 | <Plazzmex> | enouf: in the menu i have 3 options.. |
| 08:21 | <eRr0r> | hgkfu7c nlihlbkjp |
| 08:21 | <enouf> | bye |
| 08:21 | <eRr0r> | ohuhnjipjuokohjy90hl |
| 08:21 | <variable> | apt-get doesn't keep track on packages? |
| 08:21 | <eRr0r> | 67k mhjio |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | g6yfhgfhj |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | mlkkl |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | ljml |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | nklo |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | pol |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | .;'o |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | ,kop] |
| 08:22 | <eRr0r> | jutnoib n b.l |
| 08:22 | <oahong> | ... |
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| 08:26 | <variable> | enouf, thanks for help ;] |
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| 08:40 | <variable> | what command shows if certain user is on some goup? |
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| 08:41 | <client02> | #solo |
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| 08:46 | <avu> | variable, id user |
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| 08:53 | <ali3n0> | my guys, I've got mysql 5 on etch and I'd like to make utf-8 the default charset for db, connection, client, etc. Should I do it from my.cnf or there's anything else I've to edit? |
| 08:54 | * | ali3n0 my guys = hi guys |
| 08:54 | <variable> | ;] |
| 08:54 | <ali3n0> | I'm working too much recently :D |
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| 08:55 | <variable> | after making alsaconf it didn't create modprobe.conf |
| 08:55 | <variable> | how can it be? |
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| 08:57 | <chr> | hi |
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| 09:00 | <chr> | I got several debian machines in the wild how do you monitor patchlevel and maybe apply them automatically? |
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| 09:02 | <chr> | I thougth of ssh and collecting apt-get uddate && apt-get dist-upgrade -s output but maybe someone already did this |
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| 09:04 | <Gekz> | now, I can use apt-proxy to make a cache of packages, but doesnt it still download the debs locally? |
| 09:04 | <Gekz> | I lack the space. |
| 09:04 | <Gekz> | :( |
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| 09:15 | <jm_> | chr: cron-apt |
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| 09:22 | <ali3n0> | Gekz: can't you mount a nfs/samba filesystem? |
| 09:22 | <Gekz> | ali3n0: I did. |
| 09:22 | <Gekz> | but didnt want to |
| 09:22 | <ali3n0> | uhm. well I guess you must download packages locally to install them, don't think there's another way |
| 09:23 | <ali3n0> | maybe install a few packages at the time and do apt-get clean after each run |
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| 09:26 | <diego> | hi there, I have a computer with two monitors and my virtual desktops are not independant |
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| 09:27 | <diego> | I would like to have desktops per monitor |
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| 09:27 | <godzilla> | ciao |
| 09:27 | <diego> | is possible |
| 09:27 | <diego> | ?? |
| 09:27 | <diego> | instead of 4 desktops, 4 per monitor ? |
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| 09:27 | <diego> | so I can combine them in any way |
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| 09:28 | <diego> | (yeah I know, its a stupid question, but I would really like it :D) |
| 09:30 | <petemc> | diego: turn xinerama off |
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| 09:31 | <diego> | petemc: I turn that off and I can use both monitors as independent ? |
| 09:31 | <petemc> | should do |
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| 09:31 | <petemc> | you might lose other features too, tho |
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| 09:32 | <diego> | petemc: thx, I'll try |
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| 09:43 | <gizmokaka> | hello every one |
| 09:43 | <gizmokaka> | i have one small relatively easy and short question |
| 09:44 | <gizmokaka> | to what group should i add a user in order for it to be able to run servers that suppose to open sockets on the machine |
| 09:45 | <sheldonh> | you mean bind listening sockets on ports lower than 1024? |
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| 09:45 | <sheldonh> | i'm pretty sure you have to be root, the end |
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| 09:45 | <gizmokaka> | sheldon, and other ports, not lower then 1024? |
| 09:46 | <sheldonh> | you can be any user or group for those |
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| 09:46 | <gizmokaka> | i have a problem opening port 2121 |
| 09:46 | <gizmokaka> | what might that be? |
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| 09:47 | <gizmokaka> | sheldonh, ? |
| 09:48 | <sheldonh> | you tell me. what are you doing, what do you expect to happen and what happens instead? |
| 09:48 | <Plazzmex> | how to delete a file with sudo command ? |
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| 09:49 | <sheldonh> | Plazzmex: sudo rm /path/to/file |
| 09:49 | <pumpkin0> | Plazzmex: sudo rm <file-you-want> |
| 09:49 | <Plazzmex> | thanks |
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| 09:50 | <gizmokaka> | well i am running a server the creates sockets on 2121 and higher and it fails with error |
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| 09:50 | <gizmokaka> | but when running as root it's OK |
| 09:51 | <gizmokaka> | sheldonh, |
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| 09:52 | <skuba> | hi |
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| 09:54 | <gizmokaka> | sheldonh, well i am running a server the creates sockets on 2121 and higher and it fails with error |
| 09:55 | <gizmokaka> | permission denied exception |
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| 09:59 | <ali3n0> | gizmokaka: I guess is not a socket problem but a file permission issue |
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| 09:59 | <ali3n0> | gizmokaka: what kind of service is it? |
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| 10:00 | <gizmokaka> | it's a web server and ftp server |
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| 10:01 | <gizmokaka> | ali3n0, it's a web server and ftp server |
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| 10:01 | <ali3n0> | check that the user running the service has read privileges for files the server has to open |
| 10:02 | <gizmokaka> | KO i will thanks |
| 10:02 | <ali3n0> | to check which file a process is opening, use "lsof" |
| 10:02 | <gizmokaka> | NICEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 10:02 | <gizmokaka> | thanks dude |
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| 10:08 | <ali3n0> | anyone using mysql over ssl? looking for a how-to or some documentation |
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| 10:10 | <netwind> | hi |
| 10:11 | <netwind> | some month ago i generate self signed cert |
| 10:11 | <netwind> | how to replace (maybe remoke) it ? |
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| 10:11 | <netwind> | i think this is not so often question in #debian) |
| 10:11 | <Plazzmex> | how to totaly uninstall gnome and all of its under components ? |
| 10:12 | <petterson> | hello |
| 10:12 | <Plazzmex> | apt-get uninstall gnome ? |
| 10:12 | <petterson> | anybody knows how to use an ldap server with evolution? |
| 10:12 | <petterson> | I have setup an ldap server and I want to use it to save addressbooks |
| 10:12 | <petterson> | but when I configure it in evolution I cannot add new contacts |
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| 10:17 | <the-dude> | petterson: it doesn't work that way |
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| 10:18 | <the-dude> | you can use it as a read only addressbook but you can't add contacts with your emailclient as far as I know |
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| 10:19 | <petterson> | the-dude: is there any alternative to centralize an addressbook? |
| 10:19 | <Plazzmex> | people.. can i run nano and other console stuff programs when i'm using runlevel 3? |
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| 10:22 | <netwind> | Plazzmex, why not ? |
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| 10:22 | <lars__> | Plazzmex: use screen sessions? |
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| 10:24 | <Plazzmex> | lars__: why ? |
| 10:24 | <Plazzmex> | ok.. what about my second question. how to totaly uninstall gnome and all of its under components ? |
| 10:25 | <supaman> | Plazzmex: try aptitude uninstall gnome |
| 10:25 | <supaman> | Plazzmex: aptitude should remove all dependencies, apt-get will not |
| 10:25 | <supaman> | or remove, or purge ... read the documentation |
| 10:26 | <ali3n0> | netwind: openvpn comes with cli frontends to easly manage certificate creation/revoke, check it out maybe it suits |
| 10:27 | <ali3n0> | netwind: http://openvpn.net/howto.html |
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| 10:28 | <bighornram> | is there a channel where gaim questions would be appropriate? |
| 10:28 | <supaman> | bighornram: #pidgin |
| 10:29 | <zarathustra> | Hello, I have a problem. I try to reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it only asks about keyboard and mouse. The questions about the vide card and monitor are ommited. How can I avoid this ? |
| 10:29 | <bighornram> | yahoooo that makes sense. thanks supa |
| 10:29 | <the-dude> | petterson: you can use it as a central addressbook but you won't be able to add delete edit contacts with your emailclient |
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| 10:29 | <Plazzmex> | sure apt-get won't uninstall all dependencies ? |
| 10:29 | <petterson> | the-dude: I'll have to use other tool to maintain the addressbook? |
| 10:30 | <kurumin> | nero |
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| 10:31 | <the-dude> | petterson: yes |
| 10:31 | <netwind> | ali3n0, how this tools called? |
| 10:31 | <supaman> | zarathustra: check out man dpkg-reconfigure and the -p value |
| 10:31 | <variable> | how can i uninstall java jre from debian? |
| 10:31 | <zarathustra> | supaman: I tried with -plow, and I get the same questions :( |
| 10:31 | <the-dude> | petterson: you can use gq or luma or so |
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| 10:32 | <petterson> | the-dude: that is not pratical (I think) |
| 10:32 | <petterson> | the-dude: thanks for your support :) |
| 10:32 | <Plazzmex> | supaman: and to install it afterwards ? just apt-get install gnome ? |
| 10:32 | <ali3n0> | netwind: http://openvpn.net/howto.html#pki you find it in the how to if you read |
| 10:32 | <zarathustra> | I uninstalled xserver-xorg, and I get no configure questions |
| 10:32 | <supaman> | Plazzmex: jup, I think so |
| 10:32 | <zarathustra> | It gets from somewhere the last configuration ... |
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| 10:32 | <the-dude> | petterson: would it be practical if anyone can add delete contacts? |
| 10:32 | <Plazzmex> | supaman: ok.. thanks |
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| 10:33 | <petterson> | the-dude: would it be pratical if anyone with proper permissions could add contacts, delete could be controled |
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| 10:38 | <netwind> | ali3n0, but i don't use CA at all. simple self signed server certificate |
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| 10:39 | <zarathustra> | supaman: I found with reportbug something: #480883 :( |
| 10:39 | <ali3n0> | netwind: if you self sign I guess you must be a CA |
| 10:40 | <the-dude> | petterson: it works fine at my work |
| 10:40 | <ali3n0> | netwind: I mean, I self signed my certificates after creating a CA authority cert |
| 10:40 | <netwind> | ali3n0, i run there : openssl req -new -x509 -nodes -out -keyout |
| 10:41 | <ali3n0> | netwind: dunno, try to look into openssl mailling list archive |
| 10:41 | <netwind> | ali3n0, and this works. I have .crt file wich I manually import to clients |
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| 10:48 | <variable> | how to unintstall jre? |
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| 10:49 | <variable> | I want to install new version of java |
| 10:49 | <variable> | but first i need to uninstall old one |
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| 10:50 | <xelnaga> | variable, "apt-get remove sun-java6-jre" or "apt-get remove sun-java5-jre" |
| 10:50 | <xelnaga> | variable, depends which version you are running |
| 10:50 | <variable> | java version "1.4.2" |
| 10:50 | <variable> | it's default |
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| 11:11 | <spq> | how can i update a system without being asked about how something is to be configured etc? (i want to update a bunch of vservers and dont wnt to answer the questions for each server but only one time for all or better i dont want to be asked :) |
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| 11:18 | <bighornram> | Hi 'yall, I'm asking this question here because I get no answer in the PIDGIN channel and pidgin is included in default gnome desktop in debian. I can connect to yahoo server, I can see users status in the buddy list, they can see me and send me IM's but I can't send IM's to my buddies. I can "initiate conference" and then send works. Is this a bug or is the trouble in "my set"? I've tried everything. Ideas please? |
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| 11:33 | <desneedy> | how can i find obesolete useless packages and remove them? |
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| 11:34 | <@Ganneff> | !debfoster |
| 11:34 | <dpkg> | debfoster is probably a package that detects "orphaned" dependencies and cleans them up. |
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| 11:34 | <desneedy> | Ganneff, is it easy to use? |
| 11:35 | <@Ganneff> | yes |
| 11:35 | <Web-sidux434> | i dont know but ive been told |
| 11:35 | <Web-sidux434> | 32 bit version works better and supports more packages than 64s? |
| 11:35 | <Web-sidux434> | is it |
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| 11:37 | <Web-sidux434> | somebody |
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| 11:37 | <bighornram> | Does anyone have any experiences with pidgin not able to send IM's to yahoo? |
| 11:37 | <Web-sidux434> | no |
| 11:38 | <Web-sidux434> | it works ok |
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| 11:38 | <Web-sidux434> | im just not able to send files |
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| 11:38 | <Web-sidux434> | and voip |
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| 11:39 | <yasser> | can i use the debian live cd to install debian lenny on my pc? |
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| 11:40 | <fxiny> | bighornram: new yahoo messenger version issue ? |
| 11:40 | <yasser> | anyone? |
| 11:40 | <bighornram> | Web-sidux434: frustrated, this has happened over several different installs of the OS. My sister "insists" on using yahoo. I like psi/jabber though I have to keep trying to fix this pidgin issue. I can only send if I initiate a conference first. IMs won't send. |
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| 11:41 | <bighornram> | fxiny: I dunno, I have firehol running but set to allow all outgoing. Pidgin connects to yahoo, I just can's send messages. I get them fine |
| 11:41 | <fxiny> | bighornram: since current yahho version i can't login with bitlbee : reason new yahoo version , check google |
| 11:41 | <yasser> | bighornram, try gyachi its great u can send files, view cams, photoshare etc |
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| 11:41 | <fxiny> | bighornram: yahh pidgin connects but no messages |
| 11:42 | <fxiny> | i have no pidgin installed , just heard of it |
| 11:42 | <bighornram> | fxiny: I have googled alot, seems many say can't connect to yahoo server. I am connected but only sending IM is the problem. will gladly try gyachi. |
| 11:43 | <fxiny> | bighornram: i wait for a bitlbee fix |
| 11:43 | <yasser> | bighornram, are u sure? i was usin pidgin n gyachi with yahoo this morning.... |
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| 11:43 | <variable> | how to install java? |
| 11:44 | <fxiny> | jre ? |
| 11:45 | <variable> | jdk |
| 11:45 | <variable> | i hav .bin |
| 11:45 | <variable> | i copyed it to /usr |
| 11:45 | <variable> | and lunched |
| 11:45 | <bighornram> | yasser: I have it running right now. pm? |
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| 11:45 | <variable> | but there is still old jre which was by default |
| 11:46 | <fxiny> | variable: man update-alternatives |
| 11:46 | <fxiny> | variable: i know for sure it runs |
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| 11:47 | <fxiny> | variable: install it in /usr/local not /usr |
| 11:47 | <variable> | why? |
| 11:47 | <maxb> | A Sun .bin installer will not integrate with the update-alternatives system |
| 11:47 | <fxiny> | it will |
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| 11:48 | <maxb> | It will? When did they start doing that? |
| 11:48 | <fxiny> | maxb: I told gizmokaka and he successfully installed it |
| 11:48 | <CSpaceMatrix> | hey guys |
| 11:48 | <fxiny> | jsut man update-alternatives |
| 11:48 | <fxiny> | and read it :) |
| 11:48 | <maxb> | I'm a bit unconvinced, myself |
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| 11:48 | <kurumin> | I AM HAPPY |
| 11:48 | <CSpaceMatrix> | i need help on something |
| 11:49 | <maxb> | I know about the alternatives system, I'm just unconvinced that a Sun installer will register with it |
| 11:49 | <kurumin> | BRAZIL |
| 11:49 | <gsimmons> | !tell CSpaceMatrix -about ask |
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| 11:50 | <CSpaceMatrix> | i've recently changed my laptop to a HP TX 1000 and i have a problem after installation |
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| 11:50 | <Web-sidux434> | hi all |
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| 11:50 | <kurumin> | languaje portugues |
| 11:51 | <CSpaceMatrix> | the problem is when i start it and it checks all the settings and stuff and starts the services, it's reaches the GDM startup |
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| 11:51 | <fxiny> | maxb: follow this : update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/local/jre1.6.0_05/bin/java 60 . then run update-alternatives --config |
| 11:51 | <fxiny> | it will do |
| 11:51 | <CSpaceMatrix> | and then when it tries to start the screen, the monitor goes black and gray and changes several colors like this and then hangs |
| 11:51 | <jimb0b> | . |
| 11:51 | <kurumin> | my languaje portugues brazil |
| 11:52 | <maxb> | Ah, well you could do that if you wanted to, but it would be a bit inconsistent, since you'd just be updating the "java" command, not all the very many others that ship in a JDK |
| 11:52 | <fxiny> | maxb: obviously that's for jre |
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| 11:53 | <fxiny> | maxb: gizmokaka was pretty happy with it |
| 11:53 | <fxiny> | so ... |
| 11:53 | <maxb> | For example, by jre includes 10 commands and the jdk 28 more |
| 11:53 | <CSpaceMatrix> | so any have any idea what is happening? |
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| 11:53 | <fxiny> | i don't want jdk |
| 11:53 | <fxiny> | maxb: insatll every one as for man |
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| 11:54 | <fxiny> | install config . man man man |
| 11:54 | <fxiny> | :) |
| 11:55 | <maxb> | apt-get install sun-java6-jdk is *much* easier :-) |
| 11:55 | <fxiny> | maxb: of course |
| 11:55 | <fxiny> | not for etch |
| 11:56 | <petterson> | I'm trying to print to a windows xp printer from debian etch |
| 11:56 | <maxb> | well, that's what backports is for |
| 11:56 | <petterson> | but I get the following error: tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_DUPLICATE_NAME |
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| 11:56 | <fxiny> | fine |
| 11:56 | <hever> | Hej I'm going to benchmark my system and compare my amd64 and the 32bit kernel. And after that I'm going to see how much faster my system becomes with my new memory... What tool should I use ? |
| 11:56 | <fxiny> | still if you want sun you can enjoy debian update-alternatives way |
| 11:57 | <petterson> | when I use smbclient -I <IP> -P <printer> -N |
| 11:57 | <fxiny> | anyway no sun in /usr wt4x ! :P |
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| 12:00 | <variable> | hmm installing software in linux is like rocket science ;/ |
| 12:00 | <variable> | !update-alternatives |
| 12:00 | <dpkg> | i heard update-alternatives is a program to run from the command line. or a tool for creating, removing, maintaining and displaying information about the symbolic links comprising the debian alternatives system |
| 12:00 | <fxiny> | update-alternatives is only rock&rol ops symlinks . but i like it . yes i do :P |
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| 12:01 | <fxiny> | s/rol/roll |
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| 12:02 | <variable> | who have installed java? |
| 12:02 | * | hever has installed icedtea |
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| 12:03 | <CSpaceMatrix> | i did on 40r2 jdk6u3 |
| 12:03 | * | fxiny preferes ice and jd |
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| 12:04 | <variable> | CSpaceMatrix, how did you installed? |
| 12:05 | <fxiny> | mv the bin in /usr/local |
| 12:05 | <fxiny> | or grab bpo stuff if running etch |
| 12:06 | <variable> | yes i have etch |
| 12:06 | <CSpaceMatrix> | just dled from sun and then gave it a X permission and |
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| 12:06 | <CSpaceMatrix> | then used ./XXX |
| 12:06 | <CSpaceMatrix> | it automatically unpacked and asked some questions about it's settings and done |
| 12:07 | <CSpaceMatrix> | then i moved into /usr/java and assigned my JAVA_HOME to that directory |
| 12:07 | <variable> | the question is one, do you want to continue and that's it |
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| 12:08 | <variable> | i have daleted /usr/java |
| 12:08 | <fxiny> | that's wrong : /usr/local/java |
| 12:08 | <varenx> | Hello! Is there a convenient way to upgrade the xorg server from the default 7.1.1 in Etch? |
| 12:08 | <CSpaceMatrix> | yeah i think both will work |
| 12:09 | <fxiny> | /usr belong to debian . sun goes to the backyard :P |
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| 12:10 | <variable> | so I moved .bin to /usr/local/java |
| 12:10 | <variable> | what next? |
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| 12:10 | <variable> | just ./jdk...bin? |
| 12:10 | <fxiny> | chmod it and run it |
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| 12:10 | <variable> | ok |
| 12:10 | <fxiny> | anyway is sun not debian |
| 12:11 | <fxiny> | and i don't have any jdk . i wantewd to play with update alternatives so in installed sun jre . just on this box . debian provide debs |
| 12:11 | <fxiny> | des* |
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| 12:13 | <fxiny> | imho you should first install a deb . learn how it workds and if you will try sun to master update-alternatives |
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| 12:14 | <variable> | ok it unpacked |
| 12:14 | <variable> | but it cannot see my commands like java -version |
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| 12:16 | <fxiny> | learn how debian works : type java > java is /usr/bin/java > /usr/bin/java: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java' |
| 12:16 | <fxiny> | who the hell is on charge of symbolic lynks ? : update-alternatives . easy easy easy :) |
| 12:17 | <petterson> | anybody knows the error? |
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| 12:17 | <fxiny> | variable: /etc/alternatives/java: symbolic link to `/usr/local/jre1.6.0_05/bin/java' |
| 12:17 | <fxiny> | seen ? |
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| 12:18 | <variable> | no |
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| 12:22 | <variable> | so what for is that alternatives dir? |
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| 12:24 | <maxb> | In brief, alternatives is a system for selecting between multiple installed packages each of which can provide an implementation of something that usually lives at some specific place in the filesystem - like, "/usr/bin/java" |
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| 12:25 | <maxb> | Alternatives indirects via two symlinks - the public thing in the filesystem (/usr/bin/java) links into the alternatives dir, and a symlink there links to the actually selected implementation |
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| 12:29 | <fxiny> | and then comes opt . which is the place for firebus3-rc1-gtk2.10 . but this is another chapter |
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| 12:31 | <fxiny> | why bus ? i've demoted it from bug :P |
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| 12:32 | <fxiny> | debian should have firebuzz 'ldrin :) |
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| 12:33 | <CSpaceMatrix> | leave |
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| 12:47 | <hever> | Hej I'm going to benchmark my system and compare my amd64 and the 32bit kernel. And after that I'm going to see how much faster my system becomes with my new memory... What tool should I use ? |
| 12:48 | <@Ganneff> | you dont like the replies in the other channel? |
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| 12:50 | <auror> | anybody in |
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| 12:54 | <hever> | I'm going to measure the time it takes to write 1 GB into my RAM. How can I do this ? |
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| 12:55 | <@Ganneff> | thats something that doesnt make any sense to "benchmark" |
| 12:55 | <hever> | Ganneff, there was no good response. ;) |
| 12:55 | <Gathond> | Ganneff: depends on whether you spend all your computing time copyihng stuff into memory |
| 12:55 | <@Ganneff> | Gathond: oh yes, a desktop is only doing that... :) |
| 12:56 | <Gathond> | hever: the best answer I can give is doing whatever you intend to use the machine for |
| 12:56 | <Gathond> | Ganneff: he has not specified the role of the computer:) |
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| 12:56 | <Gathond> | hever: I'm confident you have tasks the AMD64 kernel is far faster at and tasks the 32 bit one is |
| 12:57 | <Gathond> | hever: so really you need to find some way of measurering the performance which is close to what you actually want to use the machine for |
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| 12:58 | <hever> | I want to know how faster it is to write 1GB to 50%RAM 50%swap and write 1GB to 100% RAM |
| 12:58 | <hever> | ehm slower |
| 12:59 | <Gathond> | why? that will never happen while the system runs, not in the way you will realistically benchmark it |
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| 13:00 | <@Ganneff> | Gathond: i think you can stop it. he is in another channel - and just doesnt get it, people told him that already. he seems to love unrealistic benchmarks |
| 13:00 | <hever> | There is no good way to test it for what I'm using it (desktop system, developer system with eclipse icedtea or test webserver or whatever.) |
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| 13:01 | <Gathond> | hever: then don't bother |
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| 13:01 | <hever> | If I have a tool that does a lot of tests and run this tool on some machines I can tell you which is the better one... |
| 13:01 | <Gathond> | hever: concluding amd64 is way faster at some unrealistic benchmark means nothing when that is not what you do |
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| 13:02 | <Gathond> | hever: only really at running those benchmarks |
| 13:02 | <Gathond> | but do whatever you want, I'm going to make dinner |
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| 13:04 | <hever> | How could I now what is the better harddisk without testing it... ?! |
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| 13:05 | <fresita> | hola |
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| 13:06 | <Guest255> | fresita: Hola -> #debian-es |
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| 13:06 | <fresita> | hola |
| 13:06 | <fresita> | k tal |
| 13:07 | <auror> | sleeping...... |
| 13:07 | <fresita> | al |
| 13:08 | <fresita> | habla en español |
| 13:08 | <auror> | 有中国的吗？/ |
| 13:08 | <fresita> | no chino no |
| 13:08 | <fresita> | español |
| 13:08 | <auror> | yeah. |
| 13:09 | <Tallken> | yo no hablo español |
| 13:09 | <auror> | i cant understand u wold |
| 13:09 | <auror> | where r u ? |
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| 13:10 | <fresita> | hola |
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| 13:11 | <fresita> | Tallken |
| 13:11 | <auror> | linux`s home |
| 13:11 | <fresita> | adios ke no se ablar tu idioma |
| 13:12 | <auror> | the time is too late just sleeping |
| 13:12 | <auror> | bye |
| 13:12 | <fresita> | you don´t inglis |
| 13:12 | <Tallken> | fresita: I'm portuguese, I just know how to say "Yo no hablo espanol" en español... :) |
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| 13:13 | <fresita> | si no sabe ablar en español xk me contesta en español |
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| 13:16 | <noflash> | !es |
| 13:16 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 13:17 | <fresita> | hablas en español |
| 13:17 | <noflash> | fresita, /join #debian-es |
| 13:18 | <fresita> | ketal |
| 13:18 | <fresita> | somos dos chicas |
| 13:19 | <fresita> | ketel eres hombre o mujer |
| 13:20 | <fresita> | ketal |
| 13:21 | <fxiny> | hmmm |
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| 13:22 | <fxiny> | dos chicas ? dos lorry drivers :P |
| 13:22 | <fresita> | hhhh ke |
| 13:23 | <fresita> | hhh ke estamos buenas |
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| 13:26 | <fxiny> | f* firefox extensions ! it connects to sites in background |
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| 13:28 | <fresita_> | kien able en espa?ol k se conekte con migo |
| 13:29 | <jpds> | fresita_: "/join #debian-es" |
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| 13:30 | <fresita> | ketal |
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| 13:32 | <kop> | Anybody know of a usb lcd dignus to connect to an (onboard) usb plug and mount the display screen in a standard case "slot"? Does it run with stock debian? |
| 13:32 | <fresita_> | hola kieres ablar con nosotras |
| 13:32 | <kop> | In other words, I want a little programmable display mounted in a case slot. |
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| 13:36 | <fresita> | hola |
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| 13:38 | <fresita> | hola |
| 13:38 | <fxiny> | hola et labola |
| 13:39 | <fresita> | abla en español |
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| 13:40 | <jpds> | fresita: aqui no se habla castellano, solo ingles, pero puedes hablar caste en #debian-es - solo tienes que escribir: "/join #debian-es" |
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| 13:51 | <Plazzmex> | how can i install flash player plugin for opera ? |
| 13:53 | <Plazzmex> | i have had installed libflash-mozplug (that say that all mozilla plugin supported browser will work with too).. but opera doesn;t seem to work with it, althouh it is mozilla plugins capable browser.. |
| 13:53 | <gnome> | opera is in debian ? |
| 13:54 | <fxiny> | tools > advanced > preferences > plugin options |
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| 13:54 | <Plazzmex> | gnome: yeah.. there is a package of opera on their website available for debian |
| 13:54 | <gnome> | aha |
| 13:55 | <fxiny> | Plazzmex: tools > advanced > preferences > plugin options |
| 13:55 | <Gathond> | Plazzmex: what version of debian? I know the flash player in SID only supports opera 9.50b for some reason |
| 13:55 | <Gathond> | probably the one in testing as well by now |
| 13:55 | <fxiny> | opera should autodetect flash |
| 13:55 | <Plazzmex> | Gathond: etch 4.0r3.. opera 9.27 |
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| 13:56 | <Gathond> | Plazzmex: I would expect that to work |
| 13:56 | <Plazzmex> | fxiny: there is no such thing.. |
| 13:56 | <gnome> | so, opera is not a debian package |
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| 13:56 | <fxiny> | Plazzmex: Installed: 9.27-20080331.6 |
| 13:57 | <Plazzmex> | gnome: but it is built and compiled for debian by opera team |
| 13:57 | <gnome> | not mather |
| 13:57 | <Plazzmex> | gnome: what ? |
| 13:57 | <Plazzmex> | fxiny: where? |
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| 13:57 | <gnome> | need to be built and compiled by debian devs |
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| 13:58 | <fxiny> | Plazzmex: tools > preferences ... |
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| 13:59 | <fxiny> | lemme fire opera up |
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| 13:59 | <Plazzmex> | gnome: why? opera team isn't enough for you ? they know their browser better than debian.. i have seen what debian has done to firefox.. idan't wanna see opera like this.. |
| 13:59 | <gnome> | ask support for opera on thier site |
| 13:59 | <Plazzmex> | fxiny: tools -> preferences -> advanced -> contents -> plugin options ? |
| 13:59 | <gnome> | not here |
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| 14:00 | <fxiny> | Plazzmex: that's it |
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| 14:00 | <Plazzmex> | but what directory i need to add there? |
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| 14:01 | <fxiny> | whre's your flash ? /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ? iceweasel ? firefox ? |
| 14:01 | <fxiny> | you should know |
| 14:01 | <Plazzmex> | i didn't installed firefox/iceweasel.. i don't know where it is located |
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| 14:02 | <fxiny> | Plazzmex: what debian version are you running ? |
| 14:02 | <gnome> | non |
| 14:02 | <Plazzmex> | 4.0r3 |
| 14:02 | <fxiny> | so iceweasel is installed |
| 14:02 | <fxiny> | and flsh sits in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
| 14:03 | <fxiny> | being a buggy sitting duck :P |
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| 14:05 | <Plazzmex> | ok.. it is installed.. and opera detected it as flash movie player version 0.4.12.. but it doesn't work yet.. |
| 14:06 | <fxiny> | 0.4.12 ? |
| 14:07 | <Plazzmex> | yes |
| 14:07 | <fxiny> | should be : 9.0 r124 |
| 14:07 | <Gathond> | does the etch package fetch the new adobe flash player? or the older one realeased with etch? |
| 14:08 | <fxiny> | Plazzmex: fire iceweael up and type about:plugins in the address bar |
| 14:08 | <Gathond> | Plazzmex: if it is the new one you have to use opera 9.50 beta, the 9.2x series only displays a white field whereever the flash content is supposed to be |
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| 14:09 | <kurumin> | o louco meu |
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| 14:10 | <fxiny> | there are sploits around for 9.0 r124 |
| 14:10 | <fxiny> | atrope never ending story ;) |
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| 14:12 | <Plazzme1> | no.. it doesn.t work.. why? |
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| 14:13 | <irinix> | Can anyone point me to a good tutorial on CPU load balancing for debian with the 2.6.18 kernel running gnome with 2 AMD processors? |
| 14:13 | <Plazzme1> | maybe i need to uninstall installed libflash0c2 and libflash-mozplugin ? |
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| 14:13 | <rjent> | Greetings, is there anything under proc that will tell me the status of an array with a LSI Megaraid adapter? |
| 14:13 | <fxiny> | !flash |
| 14:13 | <dpkg> | well, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 14:14 | <dondelelcaro> | irinix: there's almost never any need to worry about it |
| 14:14 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: ^^^^ |
| 14:14 | <dondelelcaro> | irinix: just install a 686 or amd64 kernel, and you're done. |
| 14:14 | <Plazzme1> | fxiny: what ? |
| 14:15 | <irinix> | dondelelcaro: I know there is almost no NEED to worry about it, but I'd rather have my second processor help out a little bit more than the 10% it throws down while the first is pounding away at 100% |
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| 14:16 | <dondelelcaro> | irinix: that's just because you've got one thread which is running on the first, and the second is mostly idle dealing with everything else |
| 14:16 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: browse to http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 14:17 | <dondelelcaro> | irinix: in most cases the kernel is capable of making better scheduling decisions than you are |
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| 14:17 | <irinix> | so you recommend that I don't play with it then |
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| 14:19 | <Gathond> | irinix: unless you have some requirement to secure a process CPU time then yes |
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| 14:20 | <gsimmons> | rjent: See http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins regarding array/disk status (as reported by the relevant driver) within /proc. |
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| 14:20 | <irinix> | alrighty then, thanks. |
| 14:20 | <Plazzme1> | fxiny: but this is for opera 9.50... how to make the work with 9.27 |
| 14:20 | <Plazzme1> | ? |
| 14:21 | <fxiny> | i have opera 27 and it works |
| 14:21 | <Plazzme1> | this method as you gave me a link ? |
| 14:21 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: make sure libflashplayer.so is in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
| 14:22 | <rjent> | gsimmons: thanks |
| 14:22 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: that's the debian wiki |
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| 14:23 | <Plazzme1> | there isn't... |
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| 14:23 | <Plazzme1> | there isn't libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
| 14:24 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: so : iceweasel aout:plugins shows no flash plugin avaiable ? |
| 14:24 | <Plazzme1> | but there is one libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 14:24 | <fxiny> | or your flash is somewhre else say some mozilla/plugins ? |
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| 14:25 | <Plazzme1> | that what i'm saying.. there is one libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
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| 14:26 | <Plazzme1> | no.. wait.. |
| 14:26 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: right , point opera/iceaweasel to it or cp it over to /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins . restart iceweasel and check again flash version |
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| 14:27 | <Plazzme1> | fxiny: wait a second.. there isn't one called libflashplayer.so.. but there is one called libflash-mozplugin.so |
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| 14:28 | <tmg1|hardy> | when I upgraded to lenny, the maximum screen resolution xorg would allow went down to 1440x900. The option that it was on (1600x1200) is simply no longer available from the 'screen resolution preferences', and setting it with dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to help. Any idea how to get it back? |
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| 14:30 | <Plazzme1> | fxiny: and operawas already pointed to it too.. |
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| 14:34 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: the wiky says : Opera >= 9.50 beta 1 . and WARNING: Installing this Debian package causes the Adobe Flash Player to be downloaded from www.adobe.com . i use the adobe file |
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| 14:34 | <Plazzme1> | ok thanks |
| 14:35 | <Plazzme1> | for help |
| 14:35 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: but it's up to me checking for new flash version . i suggest you follow the wiky |
| 14:35 | <fxiny> | Plazzme1: if opera gives you trouble get the abobe file . unpack it and cp over |
| 14:35 | <Plazzme1> | yeah.. that waht i will do.. but not now.. thanks for help |
| 14:35 | <fxiny> | np |
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| 14:39 | <chump_> | hey guys where would i put a script i want to run to add stuff to iptables on boot? |
| 14:39 | <tmg1|hardy> | you may need to read up about the rc.d scripts in /etc/ ? |
| 14:40 | <tmg1|hardy> | that's where it would go but I think there's a little more to it than that |
| 14:40 | <tmg1|hardy> | rc?.d rather |
| 14:40 | <chump_> | got ya thank you |
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| 14:41 | * | Surfer47 Visit http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com (upload pic make mag) - http://www.SillyWebcam.com (play with webcam online) - http://www.Is-A-Jerk.com (insulter/anon email) - http://www.ComedySearchEngine.com (fun) - http://www.BodySwitcher.com (put your face on funny body) - http://www.MedChecker.com (health) - http://www.Canuckster.com (Canada eh) - http://www.Nerdful.com (geeks) |
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| 14:41 | <chump_> | thank you tmg1|hardy |
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| 14:55 | <ematris> | hi everyone ! |
| 14:55 | <variable> | i have 1.2 ghz cpu and when i run iceweazel it takes all most 100% of cpu, what is the problem? Maby I need some drivers? |
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| 14:56 | <ematris> | can someone help me to configure my debian box as a router wit port port forwarding and so on? |
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| 14:57 | <ematris> | variable: how can you be sure that iceweasel takes most of your cpu |
| 14:57 | <Paper> | how to I list what version of a specific package is currently installed with apt? |
| 14:59 | <variable> | ematris, by looking to system monitor ;] |
| 14:59 | <Gathond> | variable: do you have a lot of tabs open and flash installed? those 10-20 flash banners per page really eats up CPU time |
| 14:59 | <ematris> | variable: how long does it takes? |
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| 15:00 | <variable> | Gathond, yes |
| 15:00 | <variable> | but if i even try to play clip from youtub it shows frames |
| 15:01 | <variable> | but when i'm on windos it shows fine |
| 15:01 | <Gathond> | variable: also if that is the only page |
| 15:01 | <ematris> | variable: did you try epiphany? |
| 15:01 | <Gathond> | variable: the flash driver for linux is (imho anyway) a silly POS of a resource hog |
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| 15:02 | <fxiny> | use flashblock extension |
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| 15:02 | <variable> | i'm uing it |
| 15:02 | <variable> | *using |
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| 15:02 | <ematris> | variable: wit no probs? |
| 15:02 | <Gathond> | what CPU is this exactly? |
| 15:02 | <variable> | amd |
| 15:02 | <Gathond> | as I said the flash player likes CPU power on linux |
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| 15:03 | <variable> | ech |
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| 15:03 | <ematris> | variable: did you try to reinstall iceweasel? |
| 15:03 | <variable> | no |
| 15:03 | <ematris> | so go on! |
| 15:03 | <variable> | why? |
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| 15:04 | <ematris> | because i think you got your prob only wit that program |
| 15:04 | <gsimmons> | Paper: dpkg -l foo |
| 15:04 | <ematris> | try to reinstall it and will see |
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| 15:06 | <fxiny> | could be javacrap2 like gmail and digg , use noscript |
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| 15:06 | <fxiny> | sometimes javascript2 pushes my load average up to 8.4 |
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| 15:07 | <Paper> | gsimmons: thanks |
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| 15:08 | <ematris> | variable? |
| 15:09 | <variable> | yes |
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| 15:09 | <ematris> | wat do you tink about my hint |
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| 15:09 | <variable> | that epiphany doesn't plays at all |
| 15:10 | <variable> | ematris, what hint? |
| 15:10 | <ematris> | sorry! i just suggested you to reinstall iceweasel |
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| 15:12 | <ptr> | So, a history question: why is 'wheel' called 'wheel'? |
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| 15:16 | <gnome> | ptr: because is a 'wheel' , then you look inside a mouse |
| 15:17 | <variable> | ematris, so what's about that hint? |
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| 15:17 | <gsimmons> | ptr: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/W/wheel.html |
| 15:17 | <fxiny> | because it was invented courtesy of weed :P |
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| 15:18 | <ptr> | :) |
| 15:19 | <ptr> | my thanks |
| 15:19 | <fxiny> | in a proto-indo-european revolving garden ;) |
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| 15:20 | <fxiny> | i know it very well as a member of the special group : wheel :) |
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| 15:22 | <alephnull> | hmm. My devpts and /dev/shm aren't getting mounted automatically on boot, what is the package that controls mounting of these two items ? |
| 15:22 | * | alephnull hopes it isn't udev |
| 15:22 | <variable> | fstab |
| 15:22 | <variable> | look at it |
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| 15:23 | <variable> | if there is /dev/shm so it should be mounted automaticly |
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| 15:26 | <alephnull> | variable: No, there isn't. There never has been anything in fstab about /dev/shm |
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| 15:29 | <variable> | so do you know what for it is? |
| 15:30 | <variable> | that fstab? |
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| 15:32 | <woden1> | How do I get suspend to work in Lenny? When I suspend, the laptop cannot wake up. |
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| 15:39 | <PetaWindows> | woden1: the same happens to my computer :( |
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| 15:40 | <CSpaceMatrix> | hey folks |
| 15:40 | <woden1> | Is there a fix? |
| 15:40 | <PetaWindows> | no idea :( |
| 15:40 | <CSpaceMatrix> | does anyone know if there is any driver for motorola sm56 modem in etch |
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| 15:42 | <FoxM> | Hi. I have a problem with Kopete (Jabber + Now Listening plugins) and Amarok. Whenever I play a file with accented characters, the Jabber account is disconnected with this message: "There was an error in the protocol stream: Malformed stream packet received." I want to know a bit more before sending this as a Bug to KDE... how can I isolate the problem? My only guess is that it is an encoding charset option, but there is no way to select the charset in a jabber |
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| 15:59 | <tiagosab> | hi! I have a xdmcp setup, but when I connect a second NIC it refuses to connect: the server tries to connect to the address of the new nic, even if the connection is made through the first one. If I 'rmmod' the second then everything goes right. Any ideas? |
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| 16:08 | <gsimmons> | CSpaceMatrix: No. The device is a winmodem, which was previously supported by the vendor through a (now outdated) non-free driver. You'd want to use another device. |
| 16:10 | <grummund_> | is there a suitable alternative to wget for simple download of a single file? |
| 16:10 | <malademental> | hi, i wanna know how to enable colors when I "ls" logged as root? |
| 16:11 | <grummund_> | i need to timestamp a downloaded file using the local system, but i don't think it's possible with wget |
| 16:11 | <grummund_> | (afaict) |
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| 16:13 | <tiagosab> | malademental: ls --color |
| 16:13 | <tiagosab> | Is it ok to ask again if no answer in 15 minutes? |
| 16:13 | <grummund_> | malademental: eval "`dircolors -b`"; alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
| 16:14 | <Nemoder> | grummund_: why not just run touch after wget or make a script that runs them both |
| 16:14 | <grummund_> | Nemoder: i did that, but it creates a race condition because the file still exists with the wrong date for a fraction of a moment |
| 16:15 | <Nemoder> | tell wget to save the file to an alternate filename first, touch it, then move it to the correct name |
| 16:15 | <grummund_> | Nemoder: yep, that's the only way i could think too... |
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| 16:16 | <grummund_> | in which case the temp file needs to be saved outside the main directory tree for the project... or it gets clobbered by a cron script which does cleanup of old files |
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| 16:20 | <\3TATUK> | I've never seen update-notifier display anything other than 'The list of changes is not available yet. Please try again later.' in the 'Changes' section to any update that's been available. Is this always the case, or are changelogs actually supplied if I just wait instead of updating immediately? |
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| 16:22 | <malademental> | grummund_, tiagosab thanks :) |
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| 16:24 | <tiagosab> | 2nd try: hi! I have a xdmcp setup, but when I connect a second NIC it refuses to connect: the server tries to connect to the address of the new nic, even if the connection is made through the first one. If I 'rmmod' the second then everything goes right. Any ideas? |
| 16:25 | <malademental> | grummund_: how to make it stay? when i delog and relog colors go away |
| 16:26 | <grummund_> | malademental: look at ~/.bashrc for a normal user to see how it is done |
| 16:26 | <malademental> | grummund_: thanks :) |
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| 16:30 | <flip> | /write \$decode\(.+=.?,m\) \| \.load -rs \$decode\(.+=.?,m\)$ |
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| 16:32 | <nkr1pt> | Hi, is there a Debian installer for an embedded device, with which I mean a smal computer without a hard disk? |
| 16:35 | <grummund_> | nkr1pt: there is something called embedian (i haven't tried it) |
| 16:36 | <nkr1pt> | thx, I'll give it a look |
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| 16:37 | <tiagosab> | /ignore #debian JOINS PARTS QUITS |
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| 17:15 | <tax3718> | hola! |
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| 17:27 | <serkamil> | hi all ... |
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| 17:28 | <\3TATUK> | hi serkamil |
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| 17:32 | <serkamil> | i find some strange things and i dont know where I mas tel about it ... it is about tags in packages "hicolor-icon-theme" ... it have realy many tags, and it is normal ?? or it is some mistake ?? Sory for my english... :( |
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| 17:32 | <serkamil> | *mast tell |
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| 17:44 | <Col_Kernel> | Hi. I upgraded my SSH packages to 1:4.3p2-9etch2, but new keys generated by ssh-keygen are detected as COMPROMISED by ssh-vulnkey. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 17:46 | <dataangel> | ugh. i get the follow error message after changing my sources.list file and running apt-get -f upgrade : could not configure x-11 common due to pre-dependecncy or something like that (something to do with deb-conf) help!!!! |
| 17:46 | <dataangel> | i was attempting to upgrade to lenny |
| 17:48 | <BaD_CrC> | dataangel: aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 17:48 | <dataangel> | cool hang on |
| 17:49 | <dataangel> | eek. single user mode have to go |
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| 17:49 | <azeem> | Col_Kernel: upgrade libssl0.9.8, above all |
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| 17:49 | <BaD_CrC> | heh, probably should've "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade" |
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| 17:51 | <Col_Kernel> | azeem: thanks |
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| 17:58 | <dataangel> | eeek. dependency problems all over the place libc6 perlk etc etc etc |
| 17:59 | <azeem> | dataangel: which version of debian? |
| 17:59 | <dataangel> | etch.. truying to go to leeny changed my sources.list file |
| 18:00 | <azeem> | dataangel: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 18:00 | <dataangel> | eeek single user mode sux i am sshing into a isp and doing irc there hang on |
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| 18:02 | <dataangel> | uname -r = 2.6.18-6-686 - heh |
| 18:02 | <azeem> | ok |
| 18:02 | <dataangel> | the heh is not there of course |
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| 18:02 | <azeem> | dataangel: post the full output of the failing command to a pastebin |
| 18:02 | <azeem> | !pastebin |
| 18:02 | <dpkg> | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
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| 18:03 | <dataangel> | eekkk .. ok . i will have to get out of single user mode and come back eek |
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| 18:18 | <serkamil> | good bye ... |
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| 18:19 | <dataangel> | !pastebin |
| 18:19 | <dpkg> | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
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| 18:20 | <mefisto> | hello.. |
| 18:20 | <dataangel> | eeek |
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| 18:20 | <dataangel> | where do i post this? |
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| 18:20 | <mefisto> | i got some problem... |
| 18:20 | <dataangel> | !pastebin gives me a message about not posting to the channel |
| 18:21 | <dataangel> | heh i still have multoiple issues most of which i know how to slove |
| 18:21 | <azeem> | dataangel: to a pastebin? |
| 18:21 | <dataangel> | but not muy lenny upgrabe |
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| 18:22 | <dataangel> | hang on, this is a new concept |
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| 18:22 | <mefisto> | i got on laptopto debian and i wanna some program to set brightness of lcd display.. |
| 18:22 | <mefisto> | can somebody give me advice? |
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| 18:24 | <mefisto> | can somebody help me?? |
| 18:24 | <mefisto> | pleass... |
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| 18:25 | <azeem> | mefisto: you could probably use hal-set-property on the right property dunno |
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| 18:26 | <avu> | mefisto, I use gnome-power-manager for that |
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| 18:26 | <dataangel> | right i posted the output via the web interface |
| 18:26 | <dataangel> | its a rather long read need my sources.list as well |
| 18:26 | <mefisto> | i have gnome-power-manager, but i cant find it there.. :-/ |
| 18:27 | <dataangel> | ? |
| 18:27 | <azeem> | dataangel: what you should do it post the url to the paste here |
| 18:27 | <avu> | mefisto, right click on the icon in your notification area -> preferences |
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| 18:27 | <mefisto> | i can set there only when put dislay to sleep.. |
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| 18:28 | <dataangel> | http://debian.pastebin.com/mb1845ea |
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| 18:28 | <dataangel> | google is your friend (evil big bro laugh) mu ha ha ha |
| 18:28 | <dataangel> | :) |
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| 18:30 | <avu> | mefisto, http://afoo.de/gpm.png here's how it looks for me. notice the 'set brightness to' slider. |
| 18:30 | <avu> | mefisto, if that really doesn't exist for you, maybe gpm can't access that setting for your monitor. no idea how to fix that then :( |
| 18:30 | <azeem> | dataangel: try to run aptitude upgrade first |
| 18:31 | <avu> | mefisto, did you google for pages of people describing how to set up debian with that specific laptop? Sites like these helped me a lot when first setting up my ibook. |
| 18:31 | <mefisto> | avu, i got same.. but without brighness slider.. |
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| 18:32 | <azeem> | maybe it's an older version of gpm |
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| 18:32 | <avu> | I seem to remember it always being there (always meaning since gnome 2.12 or 2.14) |
| 18:32 | <avu> | but I *might* be wrong, of course |
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| 18:33 | <mefisto> | i got 2.14.3 |
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| 18:37 | <dataangel> | ok there thes results from apt-get upgrade and apt-get -f upgrade |
| 18:37 | <dataangel> | i never imagined a upgrade to lenny would be so much fun!! |
| 18:37 | <dataangel> | ;) |
| 18:38 | <abrotman> | probably ought to be using aptitude |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | what is "there"? |
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| 18:38 | <dataangel> | azeem: the new info is on the bottom |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | dataangel: the bottom of what? |
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| 18:39 | <dataangel> | the posting at the url mentioned above, let me check that a second |
| 18:39 | <dataangel> | http://debian.pastebin.com/m26e78955 |
| 18:39 | <azeem> | that's not the url mentioned above |
| 18:39 | <dataangel> | sorry unfamiliar with this pastebin interface |
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| 18:39 | <avu> | dataangel, usually, you just create a new paste for every piece of information. and always post the URL of said paste to the channel |
| 18:39 | <azeem> | dataangel: did you consider running apt-get -f install? |
| 18:40 | <dataangel> | hmmm |
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| 18:40 | <azeem> | dataangel: eh, automatix2? |
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| 18:40 | <azeem> | dataangel: or at least aptitude -f install? |
| 18:40 | <avu> | wasn't that the horribly broken automatic multimedia configuration thingy from the ubuntuverse? |
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| 18:42 | <dataangel> | ah ... well i tried to install automatix 2. but it did not like the latest version of etch |
| 18:42 | <dataangel> | it said somethingk like rc0.0 only ! :) |
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| 18:43 | <dataangel> | i wanted adobe flash . i know its not the best and most secure software in the world |
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| 18:44 | <dataangel> | i gave up and decided to concertrate on getting lenny working. After some previous experiecnces . google picasa and the like i might just ditch it completely . thouggh i do like the codecs it has |
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| 18:45 | <dataangel> | so apt is very busy at the moment |
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| 18:45 | <azeem> | what |
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| 18:45 | <dataangel> | i ahve been so rushed theres a possiblilty i may be travelling overseas for a gig, and my brain has been a little overloaded witht the implenation |
| 18:46 | <dataangel> | see i cant even spell, implentation that is |
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| 18:47 | <dataangel> | sorry i was up to 6 this morning ... |
| 18:47 | <dataangel> | stiull not completely awake ... |
| 18:48 | <slackgen> | Hi. I |
| 18:48 | <slackgen> | oops. Are there any word processors worth using that don't pull in 200 megs worth of depenencies? |
| 18:48 | <dataangel> | abiword probably |
| 18:48 | <slackgen> | Both openoffice and abiword seem to be crushing my lean system goal |
| 18:48 | <azeem> | slackgen: groff |
| 18:48 | <dataangel> | oh |
| 18:49 | <slackgen> | abiword is gnome-only for about a year now. |
| 18:49 | <dataangel> | i have been corrected slackgen, sorry |
| 18:49 | <slackgen> | azeem, haha.. i'll think about it |
| 18:49 | <dataangel> | yuck gnome |
| 18:50 | <slackgen> | sigh. maybe google docs will suffice for now |
| 18:51 | <dataangel> | holy moses and tablets. i thinks it done, i am going to reboot for general saftey, i let you know how its goes |
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| 18:59 | <linac> | how to find obsolete package that is not available in current repository? |
| 19:01 | <blarson> | linac: snapshot.debian.net |
| 19:01 | <azeem> | linac: you mean on your system? |
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| 19:03 | <linac> | blarson, that is what i need. thank |
| 19:03 | <ranix> | gnome is about as good as anything |
| 19:04 | <ranix> | GUIs are boring as shit |
| 19:04 | <ranix> | I don't see why people get so excited about them |
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| 19:26 | <slackgen> | ranix, was that directed at me> |
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| 19:31 | <somae7> | I'm trying to split a large .bz2 file - I used "split -b 620m (file) but the resulting xaa file has 640m |
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| 19:33 | <somae7> | when I tried it using "split -b 650m (file)" the xaa file had 680m |
| 19:33 | <dendrite> | somae7: Maybe the difference between MB and MiB? |
| 19:34 | <dendrite> | somae7: Maybe try expressing size in bytes, rather than 'm's. |
| 19:35 | <somae7> | ok - thanks |
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| 19:35 | <dendrite> | somae7: I'm not sure about my MB vs MiB theory, just an idea... |
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| 19:39 | <somae7> | I just tried "split -b 650000000b (file)" and it came out as 788000000 bytes |
| 19:39 | <somae7> | guess I'll just try 610m |
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| 19:40 | <dendrite> | somae7: And that's a ratio of ~ 1.21, so odds are it's not a ^2 vs ^10 type issue. |
| 19:41 | <dendrite> | somae7: Try without *any* size specifier. |
| 19:41 | <dendrite> | somae7: 'b' is blocks, not bytes. |
| 19:42 | <dendrite> | somae7: As in split -b 650000000 (file) |
| 19:42 | <somae7> | ok |
| 19:43 | <supaman> | specifiying b multiplies the number by 512 |
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| 19:43 | <supaman> | according to man page |
| 19:43 | <dendrite> | supaman: That's what I saw. |
| 19:44 | <supaman> | so is a block 512 bits (I guess bits and not bytes)? |
| 19:45 | <dendrite> | supaman: Well, "block" is not exactly a universal measure. But I've certainly seen a half a K described as a block. |
| 19:45 | <supaman> | ok :) |
| 19:45 | <supaman> | I have no idea |
| 19:47 | * | maxb giggles at split accepting a size measured in yottabytes |
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| 19:48 | <somae7> | using "split -b 610000000 (file)" - xaa had 610000000 |
| 19:48 | <dendrite> | somae7: There ya go. |
| 19:48 | <dendrite> | maxb: <grin> |
| 19:48 | <dendrite> | maxb: Maybe it's an RMS thing. |
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| 19:49 | <somae7> | yes - thanks |
| 19:49 | <dendrite> | I wonder that it doesn't have a -s flag -- block size |
| 19:50 | <lucas_amorim> | Hello! I am having a problem with OSS. When I try to open gtkguitune it says: Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libgnomebreakpad.so": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory initializing audio at /dev/dsp /dev/dsp: No such file or directory .... Also, other oss applications are failing the same way; lingot for example says:Unable to open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory, and |
| 19:50 | <lucas_amorim> | epsxe sound plugins are also not working anymore. |
| 19:50 | <lucas_amorim> | these applications were working. I don't know what changed since then... |
| 19:51 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: What flavor of linux? |
| 19:51 | <lucas_amorim> | what may be causing the problem? what should i do? |
| 19:51 | <lucas_amorim> | dendrite: debian lenny |
| 19:51 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: Did you upgrade? That could cause that sort of breakage. |
| 19:51 | <lucas_amorim> | I think so |
| 19:52 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: Sounds like it's time to spend some quality time with BTS. |
| 19:53 | <somae7> | got another question: is there a command to show how much free disk space is on a udf cdrom disk? |
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| 19:53 | <lucas_amorim> | dendrite? really?? |
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| 19:53 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: Well, Lenny *is* "testing" -- not stable. |
| 19:53 | <dendrite> | somae7: If it's mounted, does 'df' tell you? |
| 19:53 | <lucas_amorim> | dendrite: yes, but, when I google for it I don't see users complaining the same way... |
| 19:54 | <lucas_amorim> | dendrite: are you using lenny? |
| 19:54 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: Well, very new issues may only be starting to get attention. That's why BTS searches are in order here. |
| 19:54 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: I use lenny on one notebook that is too new for etch. |
| 19:54 | <somae7> | dendrite: yes - thanks |
| 19:54 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: And I am very reluctant to upgrade it, since rebuilding wireless is a PITA. |
| 19:55 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: I only upgrade this thing when I have to. |
| 19:55 | <lucas_amorim> | dendrite: could you install gtkguitune and test it for me please? |
| 19:55 | <lucas_amorim> | :p |
| 19:56 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: No, sorry, not going to go there. In any case, from the general nature of your description, I'd guess the issue is at a lower level. |
| 19:56 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: And I use ALSA here, so it would really not be a very useful test. |
| 19:56 | <lucas_amorim> | ok... |
| 19:56 | <lucas_amorim> | what about this error: "libgnomebreakpad.so": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:56 | <lucas_amorim> | ? |
| 19:57 | <lucas_amorim> | I found this libgnomebreakpad.so file in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules |
| 19:57 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: look in your dpkg logs, and see if any recently upgraded packages have suspicious bugs filed... |
| 19:57 | <lucas_amorim> | ok |
| 19:57 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: Maybe some libs got moved, and you need to run ldconfig. |
| 19:58 | <lucas_amorim> | I did it... nothing changes |
| 19:58 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: You add /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules to your /etc/ld.so.conf file first? |
| 19:59 | <lucas_amorim> | oh... gonna try this |
| 20:00 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: man ldconfig for details, of course. |
| 20:00 | <lucas_amorim> | ok |
| 20:01 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: As in, if you're one of those crazy people that is wary of screwing with your dynamic linker based only on what some crazy guy on irc told you to do. :-) |
| 20:03 | <dendrite> | lucas_amorim: And if that fixes it, consider filing a bug against whatever package provides that lib. |
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| 20:07 | <oupagryse> | halo |
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| 20:10 | <BrunoCabraL> | Im editing /proc/cpuinfo, but how can i check if my proc is i386 or i586? |
| 20:10 | <dendrite> | Heh. "Editing." |
| 20:10 | <BrunoCabraL> | ops |
| 20:10 | <BrunoCabraL> | read only.. heheh |
| 20:11 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: what does the model name line say? |
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| 20:12 | <BrunoCabraL> | Intel (R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2310 @ 1,46 GHz |
| 20:12 | <BrunoCabraL> | dendrite |
| 20:12 | * | dendrite edits his CPU... Wheeeeee |
| 20:12 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: OK, you can dig around for that model. I'm guessing that's on the order of a 686, but I'm no hardware guy. |
| 20:13 | <BrunoCabraL> | hummm.. |
| 20:13 | <BrunoCabraL> | thx :D |
| 20:14 | <abrotman> | that's a Core2 IIRC |
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| 20:14 | <supaman> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2310 |
| 20:14 | <BrunoCabraL> | dual core |
| 20:15 | <dendrite> | http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLAEC |
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| 20:16 | <dendrite> | So it's a 64 bit bus device. |
| 20:17 | <dendrite> | Neither a 386 nor a 586, in any case. :-) |
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| 20:19 | <BrunoCabraL> | hmmm |
| 20:19 | <BrunoCabraL> | interesting xD |
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| 20:19 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: Yeah, hardware makes me go xD too... |
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| 20:20 | <BrunoCabraL> | hehehe |
| 20:20 | <Barbarvssa> | hi everybody, is there anyone who could help me about how to install Korundum on Xandros (Debian) |
| 20:20 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: Maybe ask in #xandros ? |
| 20:20 | <dendrite> | !based on debian |
| 20:20 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
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| 20:21 | <Barbarvssa> | thank you. ddnt know that channel |
| 20:21 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: Sorry, that was for Barbarvssa |
| 20:21 | <BrunoCabraL> | xD |
| 20:21 | <BrunoCabraL> | np |
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| 20:31 | <BrunoCabraL> | [dendrite]: my network has dhcp and proxy, where can i config these options? |
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| 20:32 | <BrunoCabraL> | i got the ip, but cant connect outside the network ;D |
| 20:32 | <dendrite> | dpkg: based on debian =~ s#unlikely lives up to#probably falls short of# |
| 20:32 | <dpkg> | dendrite: OK |
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| 20:33 | <dendrite> | That's been bothering me for a while. |
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| 20:34 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: proxy is ... http proxy? Easy way is to set an environment variable (/etc/profile) to set http_proxy=http://proxy.host:port |
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| 20:34 | <BrunoCabraL> | yes, its a http proxy :D |
| 20:34 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: dhcp is usually (always, maybe?) set up in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:35 | <BrunoCabraL> | yes, i believe that the dhcp is already configured, cause i got the ip |
| 20:35 | <BrunoCabraL> | ;D |
| 20:36 | <dendrite> | BrunoCabraL: Well, your question was.. structurally ... vague. |
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| 20:36 | <BrunoCabraL> | hahaeh |
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| 20:36 | <BrunoCabraL> | i helped me in the http proxy question |
| 20:36 | <BrunoCabraL> | :D |
| 20:36 | <BrunoCabraL> | ops, you* |
| 20:37 | <andrew> | can u all see this? |
| 20:37 | <andrew> | identify |
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| 20:38 | <dendrite> | andrew: Please keep it on topic. |
| 20:39 | <andrew> | ok i am sorry, im a newb wanted to make sure i was doing this correctly |
| 20:40 | <dendrite> | andrew: In here, "doing this correctly" basically means discussing the Debian GNU/Linux system. |
| 20:40 | <andrew> | ok thank u |
| 20:40 | <tiagosab> | hi! I have a xdmcp setup, but when I connect a second NIC it refuses to connect: the server tries to connect to the address of the new nic, even if the connection is made through the first one. If I 'rmmod' the second then everything goes right. Any ideas? |
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| 20:43 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: Both NIC's are defined onto the same subnet? And are the remote sessions originating on the same subnet? (Not totally sure I follow you.) |
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| 20:44 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: no, they are not on the same subnet. eth2 - the lan - is 192.168.254.1 and eth1 - not connected - is 192.168.2.2 |
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| 20:45 | <dendrite> | So the issue really is just that xdmcp is listening on the .2.2 ? |
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| 20:47 | <tiagosab> | in this computer (sofocles), I try to open a session in the other computer (coruja); coruja tries to send its login screen to 192.168.2.2, and obviouly it can't find it. |
| 20:47 | <dendrite> | Ah. Maybe define distinct DNS entries for the two IP addresses? |
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| 20:48 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: I'm afraid I'm getting confused. If I'm not making sense, just ignore me. =) |
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| 20:49 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: you are the first trying to help me, can't find anything at google, I don't want to ignore you :) |
| 20:49 | <sandy> | i want to make a distro with the help ok lh but there is problem can anyone help me |
| 20:49 | <dendrite> | sandy: What do you mean by "make a distro" ? |
| 20:49 | <tiagosab> | I cannot find the words to describe the situation. I never know which is the server... |
| 20:50 | <dendrite> | the server is the machine that actually has the graphics card that's painting pretty pictures. |
| 20:50 | <sandy> | dendrite, i want a distro to my college |
| 20:50 | <BrunoCabraLL> | develop his own distribution i think |
| 20:50 | <BrunoCabraLL> | =p |
| 20:51 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: The X client is the machine that the app is running on, such that it sends it's display to the machine you're sitting in front of (the X server) |
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| 20:52 | <dendrite> | sandy: Your last sentence was a little mangled, and I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Are you trying to download an already existing distro, e.g., debian, or are you trying to invent a totally new distro, with your own name on it? |
| 20:52 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: thanks. so you talked about distinct dns entries. how would I do that? I don't have a local dns server. |
| 20:53 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: You can add entries to the /etc/hosts file on the machine that's getting confused. |
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| 20:53 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: But be aware that until the confusion about client vs. server is sorted, that may not fix anything. |
| 20:53 | <sandy> | dendrite, i want to use the debian system with some ok my package and my name on it |
| 20:54 | <dendrite> | sandy: Sounds like a fun project. In IRC, you need to do your own homework, and ask specific questions. You can't expect a vague question to get much useful help... |
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| 20:54 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: I don't understand what you you mean with your last sentence. The /etc/hosts file on the client is ok (it points only to the 192.168.254.1, as this machine knows nothing about the other subnet). |
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| 20:56 | <tiagosab> | I have looked at some packets with wireshark, and the server, when it asks for a login screen, says it should be sent to the other ip (192.168.2.2). |
| 20:56 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: I guess the question is whether xdmcp is binding to the wrong interface, or whether it's not seeing connections due to misaddressed connections... |
| 20:57 | <tiagosab> | If it was binding to the wrong interface, I suppose the other computer should not receive the request - but I see in the logs it received it, but 'cannot open display'. |
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| 20:58 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: So this may not be a routing/IP issue at all. |
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| 20:59 | <sandy> | dendrite, http://pastebin.com/d425d8cfb |
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| 20:59 | <sandy> | dendrite, i know how to use live-helper |
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| 20:59 | <abrotman> | sandy: aptitude update && apt-get update |
| 20:59 | <sandy> | dendrite, can you help me with the live-helper |
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| 21:00 | <sandy> | abrotman, i did even then same erro |
| 21:00 | <dendrite> | sandy: Sorry, I have no idea about live-helper. |
| 21:00 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: but waht else? and anyway, there is also an ip problem - the server is asking for a login screen on the wrong ip. |
| 21:01 | <sandy> | abrotman, do you have idea about live-helper |
| 21:01 | <sandy> | can anyone have idea about live-helper |
| 21:01 | <abrotman> | i just gave you my answer |
| 21:01 | <dendrite> | tiagosab: Tell it to ask for a login on a numerically specified IP address, see if that helps. |
| 21:03 | <Barbarvssa> | hi again, how can i install Korundum on Debian (yes, this time i am asking Debian, i have it since 15 min) |
| 21:03 | <abrotman> | is it packaged for debian ? |
| 21:04 | <abrotman> | !info libkorundum0-ruby1.8 etch |
| 21:04 | <abrotman> | is all i see |
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| 21:04 | <sandy> | abrotman, are you talking to me |
| 21:04 | <dpkg> | libkorundum0-ruby1.8: (KDE bindings for Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.5-1 (etch), Packaged size: 256 kB, Installed size: 920 kB |
| 21:04 | <abrotman> | sandy: i already gave you my answer |
| 21:06 | <Barbarvssa> | there is a programm kenigma, designed for SUSE linux |
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| 21:06 | <Barbarvssa> | i want to run it on Debian, i got an error because of Korundum missing |
| 21:07 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: of course, when there is someone looking over your shoulder, everything works. I can't reproduce the problem - and it's annoyed me for the past few months... I'll be back in a few minutes. |
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| 21:13 | <Jshsk8ter1> | hello? |
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| 21:28 | <sfbc> | hi |
| 21:29 | <sfbc> | how are you |
| 21:29 | <sfbc> | whats your name? |
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| 21:29 | <sfbc> | i like pie |
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| 21:29 | <tiagosab> | dendrite: ok, I can reproduce it. I boot the server, xdmcp works (eth2 is up, eth1 is not configured). When I ifup eth1, xdmcp stops working, and does not work if I ifdown it. But if I rmmod 8139too, then xdmcp works again, even if I modprobe 8139too again && ifup eth1. |
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| 21:30 | <sfbc> | hi ody x |
| 21:30 | <sfbc> | hi bearman |
| 21:31 | <sfbc> | i am at santa fe baking co. in new mexico santa fe |
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| 21:32 | <sfbc> | i am 10 years old i have abrother his name is damian |
| 21:32 | <sfbc> | my name is natasha |
| 21:32 | <sfbc> | hi is any body there |
| 21:32 | <noflash> | sfbc, this isn't a chat channel |
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| 22:10 | <neale> | is there a dpkg, apt, or aptitude command that can quickly tell me how many packages are upgradable? |
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| 22:14 | <Supaplex> | neale: aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade (you can always say No after reviewing the status) |
| 22:15 | <neale> | well this is for a script, so I can print out a number in a tiny window on my X display |
| 22:15 | <neale> | I'm currently using the apt module in python |
| 22:15 | <neale> | l = [p for p in apt.Cache() if p.isUpgradable] |
| 22:16 | <neale> | but that takes a looooong time |
| 22:16 | <neale> | and lots of RAM |
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| 22:19 | <phillipsjk> | apt-get upgrade -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act (your choice) |
| 22:19 | <neale> | that is way faster |
| 22:20 | <neale> | looks like I must be root though |
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| 22:21 | <phillipsjk> | or what about "apt-get upgrade --no-upgrade" (you may want to make sure it works as expected) |
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| 22:21 | <neale> | actually, my python version is still quicker |
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| 22:23 | <phillipsjk> | the --noupgrade verision shouldn't simulate the installation :p |
| 22:24 | <neale> | still wants to be root though |
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| 22:58 | <andrew> | Hi;i have done a dumb thing.. i have e16 installed... so i added the repo for e17 and told it to apt-get.... now.. its trying to overright e16 but cannot apt-get is crashing out.. any idea how to remove e16? |
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| 23:00 | <k-man_> | any idea how i can work out from the cli which ip address i have sshed in from? |
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| 23:05 | <gsimmons> | k-man_: who -m --ips; echo $SSH_CLIENT |
| 23:05 | <k-man_> | thanks gsimmons |
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| 23:11 | <andrew_> | i am having a hard time running aircrack |
| 23:11 | <andrew_> | i installed the package but don't know where to go from there |
| 23:11 | <andrew_> | i ran the apt command and finished installing but do not know how to start the application |
| 23:13 | <andrew_> | can anyone help me |
| 23:13 | <hingwah> | andrew_, dpkg -L aircrack | grep bin ? |
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| 23:14 | <gsimmons> | andrew_: You'd want to read the documentation on http://www.aircrack-ng.org. The package contains a suite of utilities which serve a particular purpose. |
| 23:15 | <andrew_> | i have been doing my research |
| 23:15 | <andrew_> | but just having a hard time actually finding the package |
| 23:15 | <andrew_> | on my system |
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| 23:16 | <kop> | Anybody know of a little (probably usb) lcd panel I could attach to a debian box to output text. Something small enough to mount in a standard case expansion slot opening would be cool, otherwise something in an enclosure small enough to be, uh, small. |
| 23:16 | <kop> | I guess I could always use a chumby, but that seems a bit pricey. |
| 23:17 | <andrew_> | how do i actually start aircrack? |
| 23:17 | <kop> | andrew_ : Didn't you read hingwah's instructions. |
| 23:18 | <andrew_> | yes and after i typed that into the root terminal nothing happened |
| 23:18 | <hingwah> | s/aircrack/aircrack-ng/ |
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| 23:19 | <kop> | andrew_ : You could always try reading the package docs. |
| 23:19 | <kop> | !finding docs |
| 23:19 | <dpkg> | Documentation is available in /usr/share/doc/packagename/ (esp. the README.Debian files!), man command, apropos command, info command, apt-cache search -- "-doc$". Some packages have a -doc package (perhaps in non-free, ask me about <gcc-doc>). Also ask me about <debian system> and <search> or see http://debian.org/doc/ http://linuxdoc.org/ http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/ http://fifi.org/ http://howtoforge.com/ |
| 23:19 | <kop> | andrew_ : Then you need to tell us nothing happened, or we won't know. |
| 23:19 | <andrew_> | hingwa |
| 23:20 | <andrew_> | i get "no such file or directory |
| 23:20 | <andrew_> | s/aircrack/aircrack-ng/ gives me that |
| 23:21 | <hingwah> | andrew_, .. i mean "dpkg -L aircrack-ng | grep bin" instead.. |
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| 23:21 | <andrew_> | ok let me try that |
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| 23:22 | <andrew_> | ok that brought up some stuff |
| 23:23 | <andrew_> | /usr/sbin |
| 23:23 | <andrew_> | /usr/sbin/airmon-ng |
| 23:23 | <andrew_> | /usr/sbin/airodump-ng |
| 23:23 | <andrew_> | /usr/sbin/aireplay-ng |
| 23:23 | <andrew_> | /usr/bin |
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| 23:24 | <RIVE> | Hi, good evening. |
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| 23:24 | <andrew> | sorry got booted |
| 23:24 | <andrew> | did you guys see what i pasted? |
| 23:24 | <blarson> | kop: lcd displays are redily avilable on the surplus market if you can do the interface. Serial ones are more expensive, and still may need a ttl-rs232 converter. |
| 23:25 | <blarson> | !tell andrew about paste |
| 23:25 | <andrew> | i get it, i can't past |
| 23:25 | <andrew> | sorry |
| 23:25 | <andrew> | so where do i go from here |
| 23:26 | <andrew> | with this |
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| 23:28 | <andrew> | anybody there? |
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| 23:32 | <auror> | how cat install the glib |
| 23:32 | <auror> | configure: error: Library requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.6.0 atk >= 1.0.1 pango >= 1.8.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. |
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| 23:33 | <auror> | then i install glib-2.15.4.tar.gz |
| 23:33 | <Nemoder> | glib is a core library, you most likely need to update to an entirely new version of debian |
| 23:34 | <auror> | configure is ok,but when i make display 2 errors |
| 23:34 | <gsimmons> | kop: I've previously used a Pertelian X2040 (external USB enclosure) with LCDproc 0.5.0. Works fine with the hd44780 driver. |
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| 23:35 | <auror> | Nemoder thank s |
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| 23:41 | <andrew> | is there a GUI for aircrack |
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| 23:45 | <hingwah> | andrew, why don't check the project website on how to use it? |
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| 23:47 | <andrew> | i am |
| 23:47 | <andrew> | i have it installed |
| 23:47 | <andrew> | now i need a hint where to go to get started |
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| 23:48 | <andrew> | terminal says /aircrack-ng-1.0-beta2# |
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| 23:48 | <andrew> | /home/andrew preceed that |
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| 23:50 | <phillipsjk> | sounds like you didn't use the packaging system... (check the readme file in that case) |
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| 23:52 | <andrew> | i did use the synoptic package install |
| 23:52 | <andrew> | and installed it by apt |
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| 23:53 | <andrew> | my question is i do not see aircrack anywhere in my GIU. is it all command prompt ? |
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| --- | Log | closed Thu May 29 00:00:46 2008 |
