| --- | Log | opened Sun Jun 15 00:00:32 2008 |
| --- | Day | changed Sun Jun 15 2008 |
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| 00:26 | <kcynice> | hi, i have downloaded jdk1.5.0 and jre1.5.0 and extracted them, now how to configure them? |
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| 00:35 | <enouf> | kcynice: no idea, but why not use debian;s pkgd versions? |
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| 00:36 | <enouf> | kcynice: you could also try ##linux and #debian on freenode.net, and/or find some sun / java channels somewhere |
| 00:38 | <kcynice> | ok. thanks very much |
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| 00:40 | <VAmpy> | any one as i'm a debian newbie.. does it come with a gui or is it prompt interface only? |
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| 00:42 | <Vampy> | i'm attempting to learn soem bout linux and its many vareties.. and i'm lookin to set up a server for webhosting mail and that which i can learn |
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| 00:57 | <Kerz> | vampy |
| 00:57 | <Kerz> | u mean something like gnome and such? |
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| 01:00 | <Kerz> | Vampy, sure theres gnome,KDE,XFCE hmm theres also fluxbox hmm but i dunno about that one |
| 01:00 | <Kerz> | Enlightened i think is another one |
| 01:01 | <Kerz> | not sure tho |
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| 01:18 | <josh> | is there an open source version of vmware esx server ? |
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| 01:18 | <Kerz> | hm? |
| 01:18 | <Guest7> | a linux distro built to just host virtual machines? |
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| 01:19 | <Kerz> | never used vmware O_o |
| 01:20 | <Kerz> | !dpkg vmware |
| 01:20 | <dpkg> | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask me about <vmware support> and <vmware-package>. |
| 01:20 | <Kerz> | what about cygwin? |
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| 01:20 | <Guest7> | did you not get my question |
| 01:20 | <Guest7> | "open source version of vmware" |
| 01:21 | <Guest7> | or is this the wrong channel? |
| 01:21 | <Guest7> | it probibly is |
| 01:21 | <Vampy> | guest you lookin for a way to run linux distros in vmare |
| 01:21 | <Kerz> | i dont think so |
| 01:22 | <Kerz> | iv never seen any neway |
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| 01:23 | <Guest7> | http://www.vmware.com/products/vi/esx/ |
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| 01:23 | <Guest7> | this explains esx |
| 01:23 | <bakersfieldboy> | hi |
| 01:23 | <bakersfieldboy> | hi all |
| 01:23 | <Vampy> | and yes kerz that's what i'm talkin bout gnome and kde and those.. i want to try a server but unsure how to with linux prompts |
| 01:23 | <Kerz> | just run xorg |
| 01:24 | <bakersfieldboy> | is ubuntu using dsbian ??? |
| 01:24 | <Kerz> | its the default one |
| 01:24 | <Vampy> | does debain start in prompt or with interface options |
| 01:24 | <Guest7> | esx runs virtual machines on hardware, so the virtual machines actually run almost natively |
| 01:24 | <Kerz> | yes bakersfieldboy |
| 01:24 | <Kerz> | it uses lenny/sid |
| 01:24 | <bakersfieldboy> | k ty |
| 01:25 | <Kerz> | Vampy, debian starts with xorg |
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| 01:25 | <Vampy> | ok, so it does use a gui instead of command prompt when booted |
| 01:26 | <Kerz> | theres 2 boot options with Xorg (default) (i think) and rapidly to gdm which lets u choose user... and the prompt one |
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| 01:27 | <Vampy> | please forgive but i've been tryin to get a windows server running.. and i've come to understand its not as easy.. figured with the right help a linux server would be easier to set up |
| 01:28 | <Kerz> | like apache u mean?? |
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| 01:28 | <Guest7> | never setup linux server, but have window server |
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| 01:28 | <Vampy> | yes.. web server, as well as email. possible with ftp and a few others |
| 01:29 | <Vampy> | which version windows serv Josh |
| 01:29 | <Kerz> | i heard apache has less bugs when run on linux... but i dunno never worked on it |
| 01:29 | <Guest7> | 2000 and 2003 r2 |
| 01:29 | <Vampy> | ok.. what bout an email server KErz |
| 01:29 | <Guest7> | what kind of server? |
| 01:29 | <Kerz> | or something... neway my brain is overheating im gonna sleep ltr |
| 01:29 | <Vampy> | lata kerz |
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| 01:30 | <Vampy> | i'm just tryin to learnt he basics of a windows server. |
| 01:30 | <Guest7> | do you have it installed already? |
| 01:30 | <Vampy> | yup. |
| 01:30 | <Guest7> | what version |
| 01:30 | <Vampy> | 2003 standard |
| 01:31 | <Vampy> | updated with sp2 |
| 01:31 | <Guest7> | in administrative tools , you go to manage server (i think) and add whatever roles you want, ftp, exchange, domain controller, file server |
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| 01:32 | <Vampy> | well thing is.. as i've never used a win serv before i'd like someone that know them well enuf to help me from install |
| 01:33 | <Guest7> | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx |
| 01:33 | <Guest7> | this site will tell you everything you need to know |
| 01:33 | <Guest7> | they tutoirals, labs, forums, everything |
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| 01:36 | <Vampy> | ok.. and where should i start lookin for the info.. clickin where |
| 01:36 | <Guest7> | how did you learn linux? |
| 01:36 | <Vampy> | i've not.. i'm learning both |
| 01:37 | <Guest7> | do you know any other windows os? |
| 01:37 | <Vampy> | xp 2000 |
| 01:37 | <Vampy> | 2000 pro |
| 01:38 | <Guest7> | everything is the same in server, but i think you should pick what you want your server to do, you are asking to learn an extremely broad thing, you should narrow it down and learn chunk at a time. |
| 01:39 | <Guest7> | do you have xp,2000 desktops in the same area as your server? |
| 01:39 | <Vampy> | all pc's will be running xp.. server will be run on vmware until i get a machine built to run it |
| 01:40 | <xid> | why not vista ? |
| 01:40 | <xid> | is newer |
| 01:40 | <Vampy> | its got more holes and flaws then the mafia. |
| 01:41 | <Vampy> | i still have my original vista install two versions .. just not ready for vista yet |
| 01:42 | <xid> | is the last, so the the better |
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| 01:42 | <Vampy> | not realy |
| 01:42 | <Guest7> | vampy i think you should esignate this machine as the domain controller |
| 01:42 | <Guest7> | with this you will learn group policy, active directory |
| 01:43 | <Guest7> | actually administoring a network |
| 01:43 | <Vampy> | k |
| 01:44 | <Guest7> | to make this server a domain conroller, go to administrative tools in control panel and go to manage server |
| 01:44 | <Guest7> | i'm assuming you have the networking all setup |
| 01:44 | <Vampy> | i've already added the role of domain controller (active directory) up and running |
| 01:45 | <Vampy> | 4 pc's on the network.. connected to either a router or a switch |
| 01:45 | <Guest7> | go to active directory |
| 01:45 | <Vampy> | hol don a minute.. quick quistion |
| 01:45 | <Guest7> | you need to make a domain |
| 01:46 | <Vampy> | do i need to remove all the other roles i've got installed |
| 01:46 | <Guest7> | under manage server |
| 01:46 | <Guest7> | i got to go but just follow this video |
| 01:46 | <Guest7> | http://youtube.com/watch?v=7oPGS8up0rM |
| 01:46 | <Guest7> | and then this one |
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| 01:47 | <Guest7> | http://youtube.com/watch?v=CRSMVBcY06U |
| 01:47 | <Guest7> | later vampy |
| 01:47 | <Vampy> | lata |
| 01:47 | <Guest7> | good luck |
| 01:47 | <Vampy> | yea, ty.. we'll see |
| 01:48 | <xid> | tacks care of viruses |
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| 02:28 | <bitte> | hi. what server is this? |
| 02:28 | <bitte> | oh. nm |
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| 02:33 | <bitte> | helooOOOOO |
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| 03:00 | <dylan> | hola |
| 03:01 | <dylan> | hola |
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| 03:05 | <zuluma> | ciao a tutti |
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| 03:06 | <zuluma> | !list |
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| 03:49 | <Snuffpig> | debian.org seems slow, is something going on? |
| 03:51 | <Supaplex> | terrorist cells are killing your packets |
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| 03:52 | <Supaplex> | that and there are too few packet ambulances for all the blood shed |
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| 03:55 | <Nekroman> | je tu nejaky slovak alebo cech??? |
| 03:56 | <Nekroman> | people i need help |
| 03:57 | <Nekroman> | i need help with install nvidia driver |
| 03:57 | <Supaplex> | !nvidia |
| 03:57 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. or If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch> |
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| 03:59 | <Nekroman> | where can i find kernel sources becouse nvidia driver need source of my kenrel |
| 04:00 | <Supaplex> | !nvidia one-liner |
| 04:00 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
| 04:00 | <Supaplex> | did you install a stock kernel? what version is it? |
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| 04:01 | <Nekroman> | mi kernel is 2.6.24-1 lenny |
| 04:01 | <Nekroman> | my |
| 04:02 | <Supaplex> | well, if you read the last factoid carefully, you'll know what's next |
| 04:03 | <Nekroman> | thanks |
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| 04:11 | <manu3l> | CPU:$color ${i2c temp 2}C${color grey} - MB:$color ${i2c temp 1}C |
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| 04:12 | <SuperDale> | is it just me or is http://qa.debian.org/ down? |
| 04:12 | <azeem> | it is down, yes |
| 04:12 | <SuperDale> | ta |
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| 04:14 | <Reggae_> | Hi, anybody could help me out how to install debian, i tried every step given my the manual, and search all over the web, like almost all the websites and still i can't get it work? im using an ibook btw. |
| 04:14 | <azeem> | Reggae_: eh, what's the problem? |
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| 04:15 | <Reggae_> | i got like errors, it says (/vmlinux : not a valid ELF image |
| 04:15 | <Supaplex> | which ibook is this? g3? g4? intel? |
| 04:16 | <Reggae_> | btw yes, its a g3 dual usb 600mhz (the transluscent white) yr 2002 made quite old |
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| 04:17 | <azeem> | Reggae_: when does it say that? |
| 04:17 | <azeem> | Reggae_: after the installation finished and you've rebooted? Or directly at the beginning? |
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| 04:18 | <Reggae_> | directly at the beginning, its on the yaboot prompt when i typed (boot : cd) or (boot : cd:0,/startup/vmlinux root=/dev/cdroms/cdrom0), it showed me (/vmlinux : not a valid ELF image) |
| 04:19 | <azeem> | maybe it's the wrong CD then, where do you have it form? |
| 04:19 | <azeem> | from* |
| 04:19 | <Supaplex> | well yaboot would be the right one for g3/g4/g5 macs |
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| 04:20 | <Supaplex> | maybe it's a bad cd burn. |
| 04:21 | <Supaplex> | cdrw is great for this :) don't be afraid to burn it slow. My ibook install of linux 'just works'. it's been a few years since I installed it. |
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| 04:22 | <Reggae_> | (supaplex): yes its right i guess, and i don't think i had a bad cd-burn, it loads every comp (non ibook), however i got all the folders and files.., btw im using dvd writers in my windows PC.. (azeem): i used the debian-40r3-powerpc-CD-1.iso, right on debians website. |
| 04:23 | <Supaplex> | azeem? |
| 04:23 | <azeem> | yes? |
| 04:23 | <Supaplex> | sorry... |
| 04:23 | <Supaplex> | oh, he means you. I thoguth it was a program. :P |
| 04:24 | <Supaplex> | <<-- 2:30am here... |
| 04:25 | <gsimmons> | Reggae_: Have you verified both the downloaded ISO image and your burned CD? See 5.3.1.2 of the PPC Installation Guide. |
| 04:25 | <Reggae_> | ok just (a moment pls, im reading to it) |
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| 04:29 | <Reggae_> | my oh my, i do not have any single basic knowledge of linux...gsimmmons..btw how do the md5sum work, i try opening at my windows it just flashes for a while and it disappears? |
| 04:30 | <Reggae_> | azeem: have u got a solution for me, im kinda stuck all the time in yaboot. |
| 04:30 | <azeem> | no |
| 04:30 | <Reggae_> | its ok then. I fi can't get it solved ill swtich to ubuntu instead, as some said itsa much more simpler. |
| 04:31 | <azeem> | right |
| 04:31 | <Reggae_> | If i* |
| 04:31 | <azeem> | especially if the kernel is corrupted |
| 04:31 | <Reggae_> | will different architecture affects the installation too? |
| 04:31 | <azeem> | what? |
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| 04:33 | <Reggae_> | different architecture, by means like maybe i should use the I368 or someother instead of power pc? |
| 04:33 | <azeem> | for your powerpc notebook? |
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| 04:33 | <Reggae_> | the problem is that, it just can't detect the vmlinux as an ELF image i guess, that why it can't execute the program...and yes for my power pc nootbook |
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| 04:34 | <azeem> | right, because apparently the file on the DVD is corrupted, or there is a hardware problem |
| 04:34 | <azeem> | or a software problem |
| 04:34 | <azeem> | I suggest you figure out the md5sum stuff first |
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| 04:35 | <gsimmons> | Reggae_: You'd want to acquire a md5sum tool for your current operating system, google for it. Running this against your downloaded ISO should output the same MD5 checksum as reported in the 'MD5SUMS' file (from where you originally acquired the ISO). |
| 04:36 | <Reggae_> | software - i just reformated with MAC OS cleanly, no errors so far, since i could install MAC OS without hassle i could guess software n hardware would be outta list. n im suspecting the files in debian web mite have problems, just my 2 cent |
| 04:36 | <azeem> | Reggae_: so check the md5sum, damnit |
| 04:37 | <Reggae_> | ok ok, i did it already, cool down dude. But it just couldnt execute on my windows? i downloaded the md5sum.exe. Thats another sick problem im having, just another bad day i guess? |
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| 04:38 | <azeem> | Reggae_: well, we don't know about Windows here, you will have to figure that out by yourself |
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| 04:38 | <azeem> | Reggae_: try to run it in a cmd.exe, maybe, or read the documentation |
| 04:39 | <Reggae_> | ok ill try the documentation, INSTALLING DEBIAN IS NOT AS EASY GUYS (warning for me). btw brb |
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| 04:40 | <azeem> | Reggae_: I'S YOUR DVD |
| 04:40 | <azeem> | IT* |
| 04:40 | <azeem> | the same will happen if you misburn Ubuntu |
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| 04:40 | <Reggae_> | by the way, should i make it bootable? |
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| 04:41 | <azeem> | Reggae_: you should just burn the DVD image |
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| 04:42 | <Reggae_> | well, you see i would love to but, its my ibook that refuses it, as im using the stock cdrom ;-) |
| 04:42 | <azeem> | the stock cdrom? |
| 04:43 | <Reggae_> | yeah, my ibook uses cdrom, i dun think it could read dvds right pal? |
| 04:43 | <azeem> | then it's your cd, d'oh |
| 04:43 | <azeem> | Reggae_: if you start playing word games, I'll start to ignore you |
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| 04:45 | <Reggae_> | azeem : i got the md5sum, but i do not think i had a windows xp version, or where should i copy and paste in? |
| 04:46 | <azeem> | copy and paste? |
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| 04:48 | <Reggae_> | sorry, i meant where should i put the md5sum.exe under which directory in windows xp, if you know? |
| 04:49 | <azeem> | Reggae_: 10:34 < azeem> Reggae_: well, we don't know about Windows here, you will have to figure that out by yourself |
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| 04:54 | <Reggae_> | azeem, may i have some opinions? do you think i should, burn with another drive, perhaps cd writers? |
| 04:54 | <azeem> | if you have another drive, and blank CDs to spare, yeah |
| 04:59 | <Burner> | Reggae_, make sure you choose to burn the .iso file as a cd image, dont let your cd writer software make a new filesystem with the .iso fil in it |
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| 04:59 | <Reggae_> | meantime getting the cd burnt, i try to execute md5sum through cmd, it worte (eb574b236133e60c989c6f07827b *md5sum.exe) what that means? anyone? |
| 05:00 | <Reggae_> | wrote* |
| 05:00 | <azeem> | 10:32 < gsimmons> Reggae_: You'd want to acquire a md5sum tool for your current operating system, google for it. Running this against your downloaded ISO should output the same MD5 checksum as reported in the 'MD5SUMS' file (from where you originally acquired the ISO). |
| 05:02 | <Reggae_> | from debians website itself, i tried etsh version and sarge same thing occus, btw when i try to read the iso from "transmac" it told me that (there was a problem accessing the end volume. It will be mounted read only, but there may be problems reading files) |
| 05:03 | <azeem> | did you verify that checksum yet? |
| 05:03 | <Reggae_> | burner : yes i gues i burnt it in cd image |
| 05:04 | <Reggae_> | no i couldnt find a proper executable md5sum for my system yet. |
| 05:04 | <azeem> | Reggae_: how did you come up with eb574b236133e60c989c6f07827b then? |
| 05:04 | <azeem> | ah, that one was for the executable itself |
| 05:05 | <Reggae_> | but nothing happens? |
| 05:05 | <azeem> | nothing happens wen what? |
| 05:05 | <azeem> | please be more specific |
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| 05:07 | <Reggae_> | im sorry azeem, i think its my technical mistakes i'd done, i suppose to put the filename right after the md5sum, ill post the result later |
| 05:11 | <Reggae_> | yes, i got the code for my file, here's what it says (66fd9fc82f7b7234539ebefcff7a56c0 *debian-netinst.iso)...now where i suppose to verify the code matches? |
| 05:13 | <Reggae_> | it is the md5sum im talking about btw.. |
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| 05:13 | <azeem> | Reggae_: do I have to paste again what gsimmons said earlier? |
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| 05:19 | <Reggae_> | azeem, i gotta go offline for a while, my computer hangs. ill get back to you with the results when im done here. thanks. |
| 05:19 | <azeem> | I'm away now as well |
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| 05:20 | <azeem> | Reggae_: obviously, if the md5sum of the CD differs from the downloaded file and what's written on cdimage.debian.org, you got a bad burn and need to reburn it |
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| 05:47 | <Reggae> | i tried to check md5sum to verify whether my cd md5sum is the same as i checked at my windows, but |
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| 05:47 | <Reggae> | it given me an invalid command? |
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| 05:50 | <Reggae> | i have md5sum problem |
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| 06:18 | <Reggae> | anyone has a debian installer for powerpc that successfully installed on ur system, please let me know? i need a stable file desperately, i might want to have a try on it? |
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| 06:32 | <fxiny> | news : etch/fluxbox can run with 94MB ram , it happened to me by accident |
| 06:32 | <fxiny> | back to 224 now :) |
| 06:32 | <fxiny> | f* dust ! |
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| 06:35 | <_moro_bana_> | does the quality of all the stuff i make with blender depend on my graphics/video card? |
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| 06:36 | <fxiny> | don't think so |
| 06:36 | <fxiny> | that's probably what you see |
| 06:36 | <_moro_bana_> | hhhmm, yeah |
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| 06:38 | <Reggae> | in ibook g3 is it as easy as just boot debian cd by pressing "c" key and solve eberything? |
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| 06:40 | <Burner> | fxiny, im pretty sure you can get i running with 4 mb ram, its not windows ;) |
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| 06:41 | <gsimmons> | Reggae: The official powerpc Debian 4.0r3 installation images (specifically CD1, netinst) WFM without issue. Yes, pressing "c" at power-on (on NewWorld systems) will boot from CD-ROM. There's an alternate CD boot keystroke combination mentioned within the Installation Guide. |
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| 06:48 | <fxiny> | Burner: 4 ? i used 128 with woody , then i had one extra strip up to 224 , reading modo man i see i can add up to 380 . old mobo 5 slots , 2 more avaiable makes a nice snorting 4 eth headless box , dust killed cd drive and atx fan works with a toopick up its as :) |
| 06:49 | <fxiny> | as* |
| 06:49 | <fxiny> | i hate dust |
| 06:50 | <fxiny> | it can't overheat even without atx fan : hd goes only up to 41 |
| 06:51 | <fxiny> | toothpick fan running gives : /dev/hda: Maxtor 6E030L0: 28°C |
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| 07:00 | <disposable> | i've installed Lenny using the new beta installer and now i have no fonts or icons in kde. (almost all xfonts-* packages are installed). xorg.conf is half empty. how should i fix it? |
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| 07:01 | <disposable> | i have intel x3100 graphics card |
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| 07:09 | <ZYsoft> | Hi all! Does anyone know how to install spca5xx module under 2.6.24-1-686 kernel? System - Debian etch |
| 07:09 | <cahoot> | module-assistant |
| 07:09 | <cahoot> | and I think it's called gspca now |
| 07:10 | <ZYsoft> | It tells me: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/modules/gspca/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. |
| 07:11 | <ZYsoft> | Maybe I need to get a newer source ? |
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| 07:12 | <cahoot> | m-a prepare etc |
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| 07:13 | <ZYsoft> | it told me that build-essential is already installed |
| 07:14 | <ZYsoft> | is there a fresh source http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html ? |
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| 07:16 | <cahoot> | doesn't m-a download the src? |
| 07:16 | <witte> | ZYsoft: in lenny, there are debian packages for gspca |
| 07:16 | <ZYsoft> | I'm getting the same error on any source (m-a, manually downloaded) |
| 07:16 | <witte> | ZYsoft: apt-cache search spca |
| 07:17 | <ZYsoft> | witte: Thanks, but I'm using Etch with backports |
| 07:17 | <cahoot> | he says it's etch |
| 07:17 | <witte> | well, i don't know about etch, i can't test that at this moment ;-) |
| 07:18 | <ZYsoft> | Prehistory: I was using 2.6.22-4 kernel. Everything was right. Then I have upgraded to 2.6.24 |
| 07:18 | <ZYsoft> | The first problem was that no kbuild package can be found in repositories |
| 07:18 | <witte> | ZYsoft: but you needed to compile a module for the 2.6.22 kernel as well? |
| 07:19 | <ZYsoft> | yes |
| 07:19 | <ZYsoft> | and did it successfully |
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| 07:19 | <ZYsoft> | I setted up everything I need in 2.6.22-4 kernel |
| 07:20 | <ZYsoft> | in 2.6.24 I have successfully compiled and installed Nvidia graphics driver |
| 07:20 | <ZYsoft> | so I guess this isn't kernel trouble |
| 07:21 | <witte> | ZYsoft: i just logged in to a etch machine at work, and it seems there are also spca sources |
| 07:21 | <witte> | available under etch |
| 07:21 | <ZYsoft> | yes, but it gives me an error message once I try to make it |
| 07:22 | <witte> | m-a install spca5xx |
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| 07:22 | <ZYsoft> | m-a fails to buld module |
| 07:22 | <ZYsoft> | *** CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/modules/gspca/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. |
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| 07:24 | <witte> | ZYsoft: and the gspca package? from apt-cache it seems that it is more or less the same |
| 07:24 | <ZYsoft> | yes, but it tells me the same :( |
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| 07:25 | <ZYsoft> | By default, kernel initializes my microphone on camera (in 2.6.22 it didn't happen until spca installed) |
| 07:25 | <witte> | ZYsoft: i don't know enough about compilation to know what the exact error is, but you could try |
| 07:25 | <witte> | to use the sources available in lenny, although i am unsure how that would help |
| 07:26 | <ZYsoft> | it can help. I guess there was a gcc or g++ update and some parameters changed |
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| 07:26 | <witte> | ZYsoft: yeah, i think so |
| 07:27 | <ZYsoft> | Thanks guys! Will try |
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| 07:36 | * | Skrat waves |
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| 07:39 | <ZYsoft> | witte: It works. I've downloaded gspca-source from lenny, and installed it on etch. Then I built it via m-a and my cam started |
| 07:40 | <ZYsoft> | Thank you for an idea! |
| 07:40 | <witte> | ZYsoft: great! |
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| 07:43 | <snama> | hello |
| 07:43 | <lurker> | hi |
| 07:44 | <Amine> | hi |
| 07:45 | <lurker> | i 'm new to debian. |
| 07:45 | <lurker> | and this is the first time i use irssi to login irc . |
| 07:45 | <lurker> | i do not know how to talk with the special person |
| 07:46 | <witte> | lurker: which special person? |
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| 07:47 | <lurker> | thx witte ,i know howto now: /msg person text |
| 07:47 | <fxiny> | witte bruges ;) |
| 07:47 | <Amine> | i''m looking for market share of operating systems on server,I found only the share sale thx |
| 07:47 | <snama> | hey |
| 07:47 | <fxiny> | f* s* hole :P |
| 07:47 | <lurker> | Amine ,google knows |
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| 07:48 | <witte> | fxiny: what? |
| 07:48 | <fxiny> | witte: bruges , the movie |
| 07:49 | <witte> | fxiny: sorry, did not see it |
| 07:49 | <Amine> | luker, i found the share sale, but i keep looking on google |
| 07:49 | <witte> | fxiny: heard about it though, it plays in Belgium :-) |
| 07:49 | <fxiny> | witte: yes , not bad . |
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| 07:50 | <fxiny> | witte: he said : "7 pints and 5 bottles and guess ' not even pissed" , belgian beer is pretty good :) |
| 07:52 | <witte> | fxiny: it is pretty good, I am always surprised when i drink beer abroad on how little choise |
| 07:52 | <witte> | there is |
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| 07:56 | <Icee3> | i ve a problem whit fluxbox |
| 07:57 | <Icee3> | when i start it, don't read the startup file |
| 07:57 | <Icee3> | (sry for bad english) |
| 07:58 | <Icee3> | anyone can help me? |
| 07:59 | <lurker> | what does fluxbox say? |
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| 08:02 | <ccevo> | I have a refurbished compaq evo, and when I plug in speakers, or headphones, the onboard speaker still sounds, anyone know about this, or maybe a better channel to ask please. Sorry for the imposition |
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| 08:03 | <witte> | ccevo: if your operating system is debian, the question is suited for this channel |
| 08:03 | <witte> | ccevo: did you try to run alsaconf? |
| 08:03 | <lurker> | ccevo, some laptops still have the promble. reinstall the sound driver maybe can help y |
| 08:03 | <lurker> | ou |
| 08:04 | <ccevo> | witte, yeah, sound in debian isn't the problem, alsa is working |
| 08:04 | <witte> | ccevo: alsaconf is in the alsa-utils package if i recall correctly |
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| 08:05 | <ccevo> | debian install was so sweet, not a single configuration needed to be made, except flash, but that installed inside mozilla. BTW, flash goes wild sometimes, I don't know if it is buggy, or just the new flash vids on the net take lots of cpu, but it can take up full resourses here |
| 08:05 | <ccevo> | I only have a 2ghz |
| 08:05 | <witte> | ccevo: well, i have no clue, but put "lspci |grep -i audio" in google, and it may help |
| 08:06 | <the-me> | ccevo, flash itself is broken |
| 08:06 | <witte> | ccevo: flash is just not that great, especially on linux |
| 08:06 | <fxiny> | only ? i can use crap-flash on my PII 400 without problem |
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| 08:06 | <ccevo> | You must first go to the Volume Control at System -> Preferences -> Volume Control and then click Edit->Preferences and enable the Headphone Jack Sense checkbox; I guess thats for windows, but we must have same thing |
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| 08:07 | <fxiny> | cause i am so smart i keep it all the time off :P |
| 08:07 | <lurker> | ccevo,when i use ubuntu my laptops have the problem too,but after i install debian lenny ,the sound device works well |
| 08:07 | <ccevo> | lenny? |
| 08:07 | <lurker> | (sorry for poor english) |
| 08:07 | <lurker> | yes. now i use lenny , the problem disappear |
| 08:08 | <witte> | ccevo: it might help to use a newer kernel or newer alsa |
| 08:08 | <lurker> | i agree with witte |
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| 08:08 | <witte> | ccevo: have a look at backports.org or etchnhalf |
| 08:08 | <ccevo> | witte, hmmm, but I just install it yesterday, won't it automatically install the latesst |
| 08:08 | <witte> | ccevo: it is the latest stable version |
| 08:09 | <ccevo> | oh, you saying get into a bit of the testing |
| 08:09 | <witte> | ccevo: but stable for debian means it must have been tested very well (and during a considerable |
| 08:09 | <witte> | time) |
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| 08:09 | <witte> | which is great for servers, but for laptops it could be that newer software would be better |
| 08:09 | <witte> | !etchnhalf |
| 08:09 | <dpkg> | etchnhalf is probably "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It will include a 2.6.24 kernel and provide an updated installer. See: http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf Preview installer images (not for general testing yet) are at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/fjp/ |
| 08:10 | <witte> | !backports.org |
| 08:10 | <dpkg> | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 08:10 | <lurker> | i think the 'testing' sources is stable enough for daily desktop use, but if you are going to run a server ,choose etch better |
| 08:11 | <witte> | ccevo: now i come to think about it, maybe jackd could be the thing you want |
| 08:11 | <witte> | ccevo: apt-cache search jackd |
| 08:11 | <ccevo> | hmms, let me see |
| 08:13 | <witte> | ccevo: mmm, not entirely what i thought it was |
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| 08:13 | <ccevo> | its a major inconvenience to me, cause I like to put in headphones a lot, cause I don't want to disturb other. I think maybe I can just disable it in bios |
| 08:14 | <ccevo> | THanks guys |
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| 08:16 | <lurker> | how to test my connect speed to this irc server? |
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| 08:17 | <lurker> | how to test my connect speed to this irc server? |
| 08:17 | <lurker> | how to test my connect speed to this irc server? |
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| 08:19 | <lurker> | i need your help |
| 08:19 | <lurker> | how to test my connect speed to this irc server? |
| 08:19 | <lurker> | how to test my connect speed to this irc server? |
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| 08:20 | <witte> | !repeat |
| 08:20 | <dpkg> | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 08:21 | <lurker> | sorry ,i 'm new to irc |
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| 08:52 | <abrotman> | lurker: don't do that |
| 08:53 | <lurker> | o.sorry |
| 08:53 | <d4526f6f74> | hi all |
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| 09:16 | <Burner> | i need to store my php4/php5 sessions in mysql, is there a debian native scrips/module or some other good ready made script for this? |
| 09:17 | <Burner> | script^ |
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| 09:39 | <Laeborg> | when I delete anything, this delete stuff going to my Trash, how to do so it be totally deleted? |
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| 10:19 | * | dwon sees that it's sunday on #debian |
| 10:20 | <dwon> | Laeborg: Right-click on the trashcan. Isn't there an "empty trash" option there somewhere? |
| 10:22 | <aegis> | rm -rf /, lol |
| 10:22 | <aegis> | well, at least that would delete it |
| 10:22 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 10:22 | -!- | mode/#debian [+b *!*@xob.kapsi.fi] by azeem |
| 10:22 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 10:22 | <azeem> | aegis: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for giving malicious advice |
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| 10:23 | <dwon> | azeem: to be fair, he was probably kidding, and his advice would only have deleted a file in / called ",", and a file in the current directory called "lol". ;) |
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| 10:24 | <less> | heh |
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| 10:27 | <gripe-das-aves> | rodrigo? |
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| 10:27 | <gripe-das-aves> | :o |
| 10:27 | <rodrigot> | :o |
| 10:27 | <gripe-das-aves> | lol |
| 10:27 | <rodrigot> | <rodrigot> http://pt.gogloom.com/client2/index2?mainCHAT=1&network=PTnet&channel=%23BTNext |
| 10:27 | <rodrigot> | <rodrigot> http://pt.gogloom.com/client2/index2?mainCHAT=1&network=PTnet&channel=%23BTNext |
| 10:27 | <rodrigot> | <rodrigot> http://pt.gogloom.com/client2/index2?mainCHAT=1&network=PTnet&channel=%23BTNext |
| 10:27 | <rodrigot> | <rodrigot> http://pt.gogloom.com/client2/index2?mainCHAT=1&network=PTnet&channel=%23BTNext |
| 10:27 | <rodrigot> | <rodrigot> http://pt.gogloom.com/client2/index2?mainCHAT=1&network=PTnet&channel=%23BTNext |
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| 10:31 | <scimmiapazza> | hi. |
| 10:31 | <scimmiapazza> | how can I mask kernel packages newer that 2.6.18? |
| 10:32 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 380] by debhelper |
| 10:32 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 10:32 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 10:32 | <abrotman> | mask? |
| 10:33 | <abrotman> | !etchnhalf |
| 10:33 | <dpkg> | [etchnhalf] "etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It will include a 2.6.24 kernel and provide an updated installer. See: http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf Preview installer images (not for general testing yet) are at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/fjp/ |
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| 10:34 | <scimmiapazza> | i've problems with kernel older than 2.6.18... 2.6.24 don't work well on my laptop |
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| 10:38 | <Laeborg> | dwon: yeah the 'Empty trash' option is there, but i want it to be delete totally without i should click on 'Empty Trash' |
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| 10:39 | <dwon> | Laeborg: hold shift |
| 10:39 | <dwon> | Laeborg: hold shift, then right-click. |
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| 10:39 | <dwon> | at least, that's what you do in KDE |
| 10:39 | <fxiny> | shift canc |
| 10:39 | <cahoot> | Laeborg: settable in gconf-editor |
| 10:40 | <dwon> | Laeborg: I'm a little asleep today. To delete a file directly in KDE, hold shift, and right-click the file you want to delete. The "delete" option will be there. Or you can use Shift+Delete. |
| 10:40 | <dwon> | I tend to just use the shell to manipulate my files, so I just use "rm". :) |
| 10:40 | <Laeborg> | dwon: but can i set it somewhere to always delete it, so i just can use the delete button? |
| 10:40 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 10:40 | <cahoot> | Laeborg: in gconf-editor |
| 10:41 | -!- | mode/#debian [-bpsi #debian!*@*] by azeem |
| 10:41 | -!- | mode/#debian [-b *!*@xob.kapsi.fi] by azeem |
| 10:41 | <aegis> | that was more than 10 minutes :( |
| 10:41 | <@azeem> | ok, now how to undo the first. |
| 10:41 | <aegis> | undo the what? |
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| 10:41 | <Nemoder> | and now hpo9lso1gz3586a8hnragtn9numxfu is /msg spamming |
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| 10:41 | <dwon> | Nemoder: for me, it was u6nkbbl8onvnn1nb9at7fxoshwa4da |
| 10:42 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 10:42 | <Laeborg> | twhja9jg8os5xw9ajy3knm6gkucxf9 here |
| 10:42 | <aegis> | is there an user mode which prevents un-registered people from msging |
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| 10:42 | <davi> | I got out from this network due to the private _spam_ messages. |
| 10:42 | <aegis> | azeem: oh wait, you mean /mode +bpsi #debian!*@* |
| 10:42 | <davi> | Is there any way to solve such Spam problem? |
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| 10:43 | <dwon> | of course, the spammer doesn't realize that switching nicks doesn't really help avoid getting nailed down: /WHOWAS still works |
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| 10:43 | <davi> | The Spam has been solved at the FreeNode network disabling private messages for people who has not authenticated her/his nick. |
| 10:45 | <dwon> | Laeborg: Probably, but how will depend on which environment you're using. If you're using GNOME, apparently the setting is somewhere in gconf-editor (check Google?). For KDE and xfce, I don't know. |
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| 10:46 | <suiside> | aegis: afaik OFTC is missing that but +G should disable private messages from nicks you don't share a channel with |
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| 10:49 | <aegis> | suiside: hm |
| 10:49 | <aegis> | the spammers could register their nicks anyway |
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| 10:54 | <suiside> | aegis: they could, but they seldom do, otoh, they seldom join channels neither |
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| 10:54 | <aegis> | they didn't join here? |
| 10:55 | <aegis> | i have joins quits parts ignored on #debian and other busy channels |
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| 10:57 | <suiside> | well, I said seldom, in my experience private message spam is more numerous than channel spam, and spam in channels gets handled by ops quite fast |
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| 11:01 | <ootput> | any of you using the atheros driver ar5212 or ralink rt60? Is Madwifi still the best module for this in etch? |
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| 11:06 | <client> | so i run "mount -a" after making a chance to fstab in hopes of getting the chances to show up but it does not work. do i have to unmount the drives i made changes to in the file? |
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| 11:22 | <ootput> | what's the command to reconfigure keyboard layout in etch? |
| 11:22 | <ootput> | dpkg-reconfigure ... |
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| 11:22 | <abrotman> | !keymap |
| 11:22 | <dpkg> | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 11:43 | <compaq> | How do you make the extra keyboard keys like sleep and internet and volume work? |
| 11:43 | <mase> | compay depends on your keyboard... |
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| 11:44 | <compaq> | mase, hmmm, I have a compaq keyboard |
| 11:44 | <mase> | compaq laptop? |
| 11:44 | <compaq> | desktop |
| 11:44 | <compaq> | mase, The keyboard has one of those volume keys, and sleep, internet launcher, search, ... |
| 11:44 | <abrotman> | !info lineakd etch |
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| 11:45 | <dpkg> | lineakd: (Linux support for Easy Access and Internet Keyboards), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.9-3 (etch), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 452 kB |
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| 11:45 | <mase> | compaq hmm, using kde? |
| 11:45 | <compaq> | mase, gnome |
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| 11:46 | <mase> | compaq well, try abrotman's hint |
| 11:47 | <compaq> | mase, I'm not sure what to do with that, although that is exactly what I am looking for |
| 11:47 | <compaq> | I guess apt-cache search |
| 11:47 | <abrotman> | i'd guess it has documentation ... |
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| 11:48 | <compaq> | thanks abrotman, I am off |
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| 11:48 | * | abrotman wonders where he's going |
| 11:48 | <aegis> | gah |
| 11:48 | <aegis> | how do i reload screen configuration without quitting? |
| 11:48 | <first-lafs> | Does anyone know where I can find both free (GNU/GPL) and *perfect* web interfaces? |
| 11:48 | <compaq> | abrotman, just to my console, to install lineakd |
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| 11:50 | <first-lafs> | Anyone for help? |
| 11:51 | <first-lafs> | Does anyone know where I can find both free (GNU/GPL) and *perfect* web interfaces? |
| 11:52 | <aegis> | first-lafs: be patient |
| 11:52 | <aegis> | and keep in mind this is #debian |
| 11:52 | <xid> | first-lafs, define *perfect* |
| 11:52 | <first-lafs> | ok. :) |
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| 11:53 | <aegis> | so chances are people will mostly answer debian-specific questions |
| 11:53 | <abrotman> | perfect for what? |
| 11:53 | <first-lafs> | I have seen some templates here: `http://www.oswd.org/' but I want to find something very nice. |
| 11:54 | <first-lafs> | For a personal website (not mine). |
| 11:55 | <first-lafs> | I have found some, look here: `http://users.auth.gr/~annakarm/interfaces/ |
| 11:55 | <first-lafs> | But there aren't what I'm looking for. |
| 11:55 | <first-lafs> | If anyone can find better than these please inform me. |
| 11:55 | <mase> | aegis str-alt-backspace |
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| 11:56 | <first-lafs> | I'm not looking the worl'd best web templates but I would like to have some good. |
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| 11:57 | <abrotman> | first-lafs: try #web on irc.freenode.net |
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| 11:57 | <aegis> | mase: str? |
| 11:58 | <aegis> | first-lafs: don't you mean layouts? |
| 11:58 | <first-lafs> | yes. |
| 11:58 | <baba_melone> | Has anyone ever ncountered the prob, that one can start alsamixer with root privileges, but not with the normal user |
| 11:59 | <baba_melone> | when I wanna start it with my normal user, it says, there wouldnt be a device |
| 11:59 | <cahoot> | not member of audio group? |
| 11:59 | <abrotman> | in the audio group? |
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| 11:59 | <ootput> | baba_melone: audio group |
| 11:59 | <baba_melone> | as a result of that, i cant use mplayer or vlc with alsa, only with /dev/dsp, which is very ugly |
| 11:59 | <baba_melone> | k |
| 12:00 | <mase> | aegis, oh, sorry, ctrl |
| 12:00 | <aegis> | mase: okay thanks |
| 12:00 | <mase> | aegis Attention:# |
| 12:00 | <mase> | aegis Attention: restarts your desktop system |
| 12:00 | <compaq> | lineakd doesn't seem to have my keyboard |
| 12:00 | <aegis> | mase: um |
| 12:01 | <mase> | compay tried x11 keyboard rules |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | mase: ctrl-alt-backspace is a x11 thing |
| 12:01 | <baba_melone> | there is no audio group |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | not screen |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | if i'm correct |
| 12:01 | <mase> | aegis thats necessary to reload x11 settings... |
| 12:01 | <baba_melone> | or at least i cant see one in kuser |
| 12:01 | <abrotman> | baba_melone: is it debian ? |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | mase: i'm trying to reload SCREEN settings, not x11 |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | for christ's sake |
| 12:01 | <mase> | aegis SCREEN? what SCREEN? console? |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | screen != x11, x11 != screen |
| 12:01 | <baba_melone> | k, its only not in kuser visible |
| 12:01 | <aegis> | mase: argh |
| 12:02 | <aegis> | http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ |
| 12:02 | <mase> | aegis uff! |
| 12:02 | <aegis> | and actually ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't restart X |
| 12:02 | <aegis> | it kills X |
| 12:03 | <mase> | aegis; yes, but it works... (kdm is restarting it automatically... in most cases); sorry, i don't know anything about "screen"... |
| 12:03 | <cogwheel> | but then there's the kdm/gdm/xdm that resurrects X each time |
| 12:04 | <azeem> | mase: if you don't know anything about screen, why do you answer questions about it? |
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| 12:04 | <aegis> | mase: i don't have any login manager |
| 12:05 | <mase> | azeem because i did not know what he meant with "screen" (its about the window manager) |
| 12:05 | <aegis> | if you're not sure, i think you're better off with not answering at all |
| 12:06 | <azeem> | mase: why do you think it's about the window manager? |
| 12:06 | <baba_melone> | now Ive added me to the audio group, and yet I cant access alsa |
| 12:06 | <azeem> | baba_melone: did you logout/login? |
| 12:06 | <mase> | azeem he told! |
| 12:07 | <baba_melone> | no |
| 12:07 | <baba_melone> | is that necessary? |
| 12:07 | <mase> | baba_melone some times... |
| 12:07 | <azeem> | mase: when? |
| 12:07 | <azeem> | I don't see where he talked about X at all |
| 12:07 | <mase> | azeem http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ |
| 12:07 | <cahoot> | su <user> will do in that term |
| 12:07 | <azeem> | 17:44 < aegis> how do i reload screen configuration without quitting? |
| 12:08 | <mase> | azeem aegis send this link: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ |
| 12:08 | <azeem> | did you read it |
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| 12:09 | <baba_melone> | well, alsa seems to work no, but the sound quality is veeeeryyy poor, although im using my HQ Sennheiser speakers |
| 12:09 | <mase> | baba_melone :D have a look at alsamixer |
| 12:10 | <baba_melone> | to see whar |
| 12:10 | <baba_melone> | t |
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| 12:13 | <mase> | baba_melone to adjust volume levels; sound can be bad if master is 100% while PCM is 1% for example |
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| 12:16 | <mase> | i want to change my xkb rules; is there a way to grab keycodes and print them to console for example? |
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| 12:18 | <baba_melone> | mase: nothing like that is the case, the only thing strange is, that PCM is not adjustable, the pcm value cant vary from 0 |
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| 12:18 | <cahoot> | what kind of sound card? |
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| 12:19 | <baba_melone> | sis, ac97 |
| 12:19 | <cahoot> | what alsa module |
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| 12:19 | <baba_melone> | dunno, just a mo |
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| 12:20 | <baba_melone> | seems to be snd_ac97_condec, but there are much more modules loaded with the snd_ prefix |
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| 12:20 | <baba_melone> | as pcm_oss |
| 12:20 | <cahoot> | cat /proc/asound/modules |
| 12:21 | <compaq> | abrotman, I got it partially working, lineakd didn't have my keyboard but hotkeys had a close one, and it works pretty good, now I am searching for Linux keycodes so I can config good. Just felt like saying it to you |
| 12:21 | <baba_melone> | trident and mpu401 |
| 12:22 | <compaq> | whats the linux keycode for lock screen, cause sleep disconnects the net, and I don't want that |
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| 12:23 | <mase> | compq CTRL-ALT-L is working for me (KDE) |
| 12:23 | <ootput> | hello, upon loading a madwifi driver (ath_pci), ifconfig shows two new devices: ath0 and wifi0. which should i reference in /etc/network/interfaces? Also are there any boot-time events that need to occur in order for me to automatically authenticate via wpa2 with the router? |
| 12:25 | <baba_melone> | nay clue what the reason for the poor quality is |
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| 12:26 | <Gathond> | ootput: ath0 iirc the wifi0 is the master device |
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| 12:27 | <ootput> | Gathond: thankyou. are you familiar with configuring devices to use wpa_supplicant? |
| 12:27 | <cahoot> | baba_melone: can you put the output of amixer on a pstebin? |
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| 12:27 | <Gathond> | not longer than adding the appropriate lines to /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 12:28 | <Gathond> | network/interfaces anyway |
| 12:28 | <ootput> | Gathond: using wpa_supplicant command with necessary switches, i'm able to establish a connection. However, expressing those flags in wpa_supplicant.cfg doesn't work the same way |
| 12:29 | <ootput> | (read: at all) |
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| 12:30 | <Gathond> | ootput: never used that one |
| 12:30 | <baba_melone> | http://pastebin.com/m66a7dd07 |
| 12:30 | <Gathond> | I just add my stuff in the interfaces file and lets ifup/ifdown manage the tedious details |
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| 12:34 | <cahoot> | baba_melone: doesn't look like PCM offers more than on/off - you'll have to play around with the other controls |
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| 12:36 | <compaq> | my audio is funny, only the pcm works |
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| 12:38 | <ootput> | why is my xsession only capable of showing keys: y, u, i, p, d, h, j, l, ', x, v, n |
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| 12:38 | <ootput> | those keys are where they ought to be on a qwerty keyboard |
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| 12:39 | <Vectro> | Is this a reasonable place to ask questions about maintaining debian packages? |
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| 12:44 | <thruxton> | Vectro: yeah, or #debian-mentors i think, or #debian-devel |
| 12:45 | <thruxton> | mentors would be your best bet |
| 12:45 | <Vectro> | Mentors seems to be vacant. :-( |
| 12:46 | <Vectro> | I may already have the answer to this question in hand, but I figure it can't hurt to corroborate. |
| 12:46 | <Vectro> | What's the best way to handle a package that needs to have files installed under a particular username? |
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| 12:48 | <thruxton> | that I dont know, im sure its in the policy manual though? |
| 12:48 | <Vectro> | Nope, the policy manual just talks about which UIDs are OK to use. |
| 12:48 | <Vectro> | And dpkg doesn't allow installation by username, only by UID. |
| 12:48 | <Vectro> | So the way I see it, we either get a static UID assigned, or just adduser/chown at postinst. |
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| 12:50 | <thruxton> | i would ask in -devel or email the debian-mentors list before getting too far into it tho |
| 12:50 | <Vectro> | Fair enough, thx. |
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| 12:59 | <Nemoder> | LILO is being removed from Debian? D: |
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| 13:07 | <suiside> | Nemoder: can you site a credible source for that statement? |
| 13:07 | <Nemoder> | suiside: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=lilo |
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| 13:10 | <enkrypt> | whats a good util to see I/O activity? something like top, for I/O (but not iotop) |
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| 13:19 | <maslak> | what do i need to instal realplayer? according to this: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/realplayer.htm i only need to add debian-multimedia.org to sources.list but i get a message that realplayer package has no avaliable version but there is another pacakge referencing it. |
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| 13:21 | <maslak> | anybody? |
| 13:21 | <maslak> | :) |
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| 13:24 | <suiside> | maslak: assuming you're running etch: "aptitude install helix-player", if you need a browser plugin there's mozilla-helix-player |
| 13:26 | <thruxton> | enkrypt: the sysstat package has an iostat command |
| 13:27 | <maslak> | forgot to write: im on sid |
| 13:27 | <maslak> | suiside |
| 13:27 | <maslak> | why would i use helix plpayer instead of realplayer? |
| 13:28 | <maslak> | is sth wrong with realplayer? |
| 13:29 | <suiside> | maslak: realplayer on linux is helixplayer with artwork from real |
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| 13:32 | <maslak> | ah, ok :) |
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| 13:33 | <Torsten_W> | in sid, there is no helix-player |
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| 14:00 | <Armorial> | can somebody tell me a repository with mysql? |
| 14:03 | <Gathond> | any standard debian repository should do |
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| 14:09 | <tridane> | how can I install a "broadcom 590x"-network-card, without using internet? |
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| 14:14 | <EagleScreen> | hello |
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| 14:16 | <EagleScreen> | hello, could anybody answer me? |
| 14:16 | <EagleScreen> | is someone reading? |
| 14:16 | <wnd> | !ask |
| 14:16 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 14:17 | <EagleScreen> | hello |
| 14:17 | <raka> | hola |
| 14:18 | <EagleScreen> | how can I join to channel #debian-women? |
| 14:18 | <raka> | buenas |
| 14:18 | <raka> | no se mucho de debian y tengo un problema al intentar instalar lenny |
| 14:18 | <EagleScreen> | hola raka |
| 14:18 | <EagleScreen> | por que hablas ne español no sabes inglés? |
| 14:19 | <raka> | es en ingles este chat? |
| 14:19 | <EagleScreen> | pues yo creo que sà |
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| 14:19 | <raka> | hare el inte |
| 14:19 | <raka> | intento |
| 14:19 | <raka> | jejej |
| 14:19 | <EagleScreen> | pero no estoy 100% seguro |
| 14:19 | <raka> | thacks |
| 14:19 | <EagleScreen> | acabo de meterme por primera vez |
| 14:19 | <raka> | well |
| 14:19 | <_ZeuZ_> | Gente, aca es para ingles. |
| 14:19 | <EagleScreen> | claro |
| 14:19 | <EagleScreen> | ves |
| 14:20 | <EagleScreen> | si quieres que los demásp uedan ayudarte, es mejor usar el inglés, asà te entenderán todos |
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| 14:20 | <raka> | I have a proble with my debian lenny |
| 14:20 | <raka> | how can help me |
| 14:20 | <raka> | ? |
| 14:20 | <_ZeuZ_> | raka: what's the problem? O sino anda a #debian-es |
| 14:20 | <EagleScreen> | what is your problem |
| 14:20 | <raka> | when i try to install it i get this error: PCI:Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.0 |
| 14:21 | <_ZeuZ_> | raka, what's your PC arch? |
| 14:21 | <_ZeuZ_> | also, that should not be a fatarl error. |
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| 14:22 | <EagleScreen> | yes, tell us raka, what kind of processor do you have? |
| 14:22 | <raka> | its amd atholn X2 6000+ 8800GT nvidia, 2 GB ram ddr2 667 board M2A-VM Asus |
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| 14:22 | <EagleScreen> | i think it is AMD64 |
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| 14:23 | <raka> | yep |
| 14:23 | <_ZeuZ_> | raka, so I guess you're trying with AMD64 or X86_64 or iX86 |
| 14:23 | <EagleScreen> | yes |
| 14:23 | <_ZeuZ_> | either way, that error can not end the installation at all, |
| 14:23 | <raka> | x86 |
| 14:23 | <EagleScreen> | which CD sis you download? |
| 14:23 | <raka> | i dont want to install amd64 |
| 14:24 | <EagleScreen> | the did tou download i386 CD? |
| 14:24 | <raka> | cd1 lenny beta 2 |
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| 14:24 | <_ZeuZ_> | lenny is lenny, no beta no nothing like that. |
| 14:24 | <raka> | _ZeuZ_, the error is when i click in install and 5 secods later it show me the error |
| 14:25 | <_ZeuZ_> | that can NOT END THE INSTALLATION. |
| 14:25 | <_ZeuZ_> | So go on from there on. |
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| 14:27 | <raka> | yes i download de i386 |
| 14:27 | <raka> | _ZeuZ_, the file name is lenny_beta2 |
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| 14:27 | <_ZeuZ_> | www.debian.org |
| 14:27 | <_ZeuZ_> | Debian branches goes with that when they are about to go out, and lenny isnt |
| 14:27 | <_ZeuZ_> | !lenny |
| 14:27 | <dpkg> | somebody said lenny was the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and the schedule is set for release in Sept 2008 (but ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. |
| 14:28 | <_ZeuZ_> | Read that from dpkg, the Debian bot with information, and it's all you need to know. |
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| 14:28 | <shivraj> | can you run debian on a mac laptop ? |
| 14:29 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, yes |
| 14:29 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, arch is powerpc |
| 14:29 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, although you might want to try iX86 on it first |
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| 14:29 | <shivraj> | _ZeuZ_ : I want to buy a g4 laptop on ebay ... |
| 14:30 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, price/performance doesn'tworth it. |
| 14:31 | <shivraj> | is there any laptop with faster memory like desktops ? |
| 14:31 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, better buy a Toshiba Satellite Pro x205-sli6 for the same price. |
| 14:31 | <shivraj> | or a dell for $499 ... |
| 14:31 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, want something fast? go for that toshiba |
| 14:31 | <_ZeuZ_> | I have one, and it runs Crysis MAXXED OUT AT 65fps |
| 14:32 | <shivraj> | _ZeuZ_ : which one ? |
| 14:32 | <_ZeuZ_> | Toshiba Satellite Pro x205-sli6 |
| 14:33 | <shivraj> | I had a toshiba notebook which used to overheat like crazy, nice laptop though ... until I spilled something on it .. |
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| 14:33 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, for sure it had Pentium procssor on it. |
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| 14:33 | <Milos_Serbia> | helo |
| 14:33 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, either way performance is unbeaten for it. |
| 14:33 | <Milos_Serbia> | *hello |
| 14:33 | <shivraj> | _ZeuZ_ : yours doesnt overheat ? |
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| 14:34 | <Milos_Serbia> | can anyone tell me is there any irc chat client in debian repositories? |
| 14:34 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, but behing objective: wait until laptops with AMD Puma chipset go out. |
| 14:34 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, not at all |
| 14:34 | <_ZeuZ_> | current temperature is 22C |
| 14:34 | <_ZeuZ_> | (of core n1 wich is the one in use) |
| 14:34 | <shivraj> | Milos_Serbia : bitchx ???? |
| 14:34 | <_ZeuZ_> | behing running compiz-fusion bomberclone, songbird, firefox, emesene xchat copete, irssi 4 remote sessions through ssh2 |
| 14:35 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, for what Desktop enviroment? |
| 14:35 | <Milos_Serbia> | shivraj: i did from terminal apt-cache search bitchx |
| 14:35 | <mase> | How can i suggest a "new" package/project to debian? i don't want to get an maintainer (yet). |
| 14:35 | <Milos_Serbia> | nothing happens |
| 14:36 | <Milos_Serbia> | also did aptitude search bitchx |
| 14:36 | <Milos_Serbia> | nothingt happens |
| 14:36 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, aptitude update && aptitude install bitchx |
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| 14:37 | <_ZeuZ_> | hmm |
| 14:37 | <_ZeuZ_> | wait |
| 14:37 | <chealer> | Milos_Serbia: yes |
| 14:37 | <Milos_Serbia> | Eniac:/home/r00t# aptitude install bitchx |
| 14:37 | <Milos_Serbia> | Reading package lists... Done |
| 14:37 | <Milos_Serbia> | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 14:37 | <Milos_Serbia> | Reading extended state information |
| 14:37 | <Milos_Serbia> | Initializing package states... Done |
| 14:38 | <Milos_Serbia> | Reading task descriptions... Done |
| 14:38 | <Milos_Serbia> | Building tag database... Done |
| 14:38 | <Milos_Serbia> | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "bitchx" |
| 14:38 | <tweber> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451373 |
| 14:38 | <_ZeuZ_> | Flood do not! |
| 14:38 | <tweber> | bitchx was removed |
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| 14:38 | <chealer> | !tell mase about rfp |
| 14:38 | <Milos_Serbia> | tweber: so is there any else now? |
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| 14:38 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, http://www.bitchx.com/download/BitchX-1.1-final-linux.tar.gz >> Download and build |
| 14:39 | <shivraj> | _ZeuZ_ : thats one hell of a laptop ... |
| 14:39 | <Milos_Serbia> | i did but i have problems with libraries |
| 14:39 | <tweber> | Milos_Serbia, are you fixed on bitchx, or is something else okay? |
| 14:39 | <_ZeuZ_> | shivraj, I bout a 9 cells battery and a 12 cells battery... |
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| 14:39 | <Milos_Serbia> | tweber: it mustn`t be bitchx |
| 14:39 | <_ZeuZ_> | all that power and 5hours of maximum performance time is a hell of a combination |
| 14:40 | * | _ZeuZ_ Wonders when is Songbird or a fork to enter to Debian repos |
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| 14:41 | <Milos_Serbia> | tweber: anything else on repositories? |
| 14:41 | <EagleScreen> | i would like to coment one thing |
| 14:41 | <Stack> | hi all. please help: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 14:41 | <tweber> | Milos_Serbia, irssi for console or xchat for X |
| 14:41 | <EagleScreen> | I tried to install a PC Game for Windows in Linux, using wine |
| 14:41 | <Milos_Serbia> | tweber: on repositories? |
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| 14:42 | <EagleScreen> | i used for test an Ubuntu, only becouse it had the lastest wine version, but this is not an Ubuntu issue i think |
| 14:42 | <shivraj> | Milos_Serbia : I think its in non-free or contrib |
| 14:42 | <tweber> | Milos_Serbia, yes, sure. |
| 14:43 | <EagleScreen> | i run the game installer with wine |
| 14:43 | <_ZeuZ_> | EagleScreen, Ubuntu does not have the latest one, winehq has the latest one. Ubuntu repos are working with 0.95 wich is the same that with SID |
| 14:43 | <Milos_Serbia> | tweber: there isn`t xchat or irssi on repositories |
| 14:43 | <EagleScreen> | and then, my DVD drive exploided |
| 14:43 | <tweber> | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xchat |
| 14:43 | <chealer> | !tell EagleScreen about enter |
| 14:43 | <tweber> | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=irssi |
| 14:44 | <tweber> | Milos_Serbia, what repositories are you using? |
| 14:44 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, paste in pastebin.com your /etc/apt/sources.list and show us the contents |
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| 14:44 | <Stack> | ? |
| 14:44 | <chealer> | Stack: how can you be helped? |
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| 14:45 | <EagleScreen> | my DVD drive exploided and one fragment of i impacted in my face, and the game CD result broken in multiple small fragments |
| 14:45 | <_ZeuZ_> | hmm.... do they take long to provide the cloaks? |
| 14:45 | <chealer> | Stack: do not send non-private messages in private before asking for permission |
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| 14:46 | <_ZeuZ_> | EagleScreen, you know that sounds so damn fake |
| 14:46 | <Stack> | sorry |
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| 14:47 | <EagleScreen> | yes, i know, it is difficult to believe |
| 14:47 | <_ZeuZ_> | EagleScreen, speed of the DVD/CD drive? |
| 14:47 | <Milos_Serbia> | _ZeuZ_: http://pastebin.com/m26edf7e2 |
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| 14:48 | <EagleScreen> | i think it was 50x for CDs |
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| 14:48 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, you only have update server, you won't be able to obtain more than just security updates with that. |
| 14:48 | <_ZeuZ_> | EagleScreen, The only speed that is troublesome is 56X |
| 14:48 | <_ZeuZ_> | (for cds) |
| 14:48 | <_ZeuZ_> | !tell Milos_Serbia about Debian Repositories |
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| 14:49 | <_ZeuZ_> | grrsh... |
| 14:49 | <_ZeuZ_> | well, letme handle you the repos Milos_Serbia |
| 14:49 | <EagleScreen> | just before explosion, it was rotating very fast |
| 14:49 | <Stack> | why can alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 14:49 | <Stack> | display error? |
| 14:49 | <Milos_Serbia> | tnx _ZeuZ_ |
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| 14:49 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, You should add the lines I'm going to handle you to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:49 | <Milos_Serbia> | ok |
| 14:49 | <Milos_Serbia> | i will |
| 14:49 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, do you know how to do that? orwould like me to explain how to do that? |
| 14:50 | <Milos_Serbia> | just paste in sources.list ? |
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| 14:51 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, yes, you can do it directly from command prompt (aka xterm or konsole) |
| 14:51 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, you can do this: su (log in as root) then: |
| 14:51 | <EagleScreen> | now i have fear to do something similar again, becouse if it break also my DVD burner |
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| 14:52 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, (start from the echo outside the parentesis on and don't forget to use >> because > will transform the file in only that repo if you do it wrong) echo deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian etch main >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:52 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, after doing that, you're done to do apt-get update |
| 14:52 | <_ZeuZ_> | Those are the repos for ETCH. |
| 14:53 | <marcot> | Hello, I'm using etch, and I tried to compile alsa with module-assistant, and when I was going to install it, my computer crashed... |
| 14:53 | <_ZeuZ_> | if you want lenny, sid, or experimental (wich this last one is not recomended if you're new) change etch for lenny or sid or experimental |
| 14:53 | <chealer> | Stack: does that happen when you try running alsamixer? |
| 14:53 | <marcot> | Now, I'vre rebooted, and my mouse doesn't work on X. |
| 14:53 | <Stack> | yes |
| 14:54 | <marcot> | I've removed the generated alsa-modules package, but my mouse doesn't work at all. |
| 14:54 | <chealer> | Stack: which Debian suite do you use? |
| 14:54 | <marcot> | I don't know not even how to start investigating what could be causing my mouse not to move. |
| 14:55 | <_ZeuZ_> | marcot, install the one coming from debian repos and see if that can fix it |
| 14:55 | <Stack> | chealer: 40r3 |
| 14:55 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: the alsa-modules? |
| 14:55 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: maybe I should reinstall kernel. |
| 14:55 | <_ZeuZ_> | marcot, yes |
| 14:55 | <Milos_Serbia> | _ZeuZ_: thank u very much bro |
| 14:55 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, no problem the community shall stick toghether |
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| 14:56 | <_ZeuZ_> | marcot, that won't completely be the solution |
| 14:56 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: thanks, I'll try reinstalling alsa-modules |
| 14:56 | <sebi> | hiho |
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| 14:56 | <_ZeuZ_> | it would just be a partiall lazy-scape method ;) Please, consider reinstalling alsa-modules from the repos before trying getting rid of the kernel, and reinstalling the linux-image |
| 14:57 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: debian repos doesn't have an alsa-modules package. |
| 14:57 | <_ZeuZ_> | !alsa-modules |
| 14:57 | <dpkg> | i heard alsa-modules is the ALSA driver common files. ; see(alsadriver2.0.34 ; alsa-source) |
| 14:57 | <sebi> | i think i have a bug, concerning cpufreq-utils or kernel-ondemand governor.. |
| 14:57 | <_ZeuZ_> | !alsa-modules | marcot |
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| 14:57 | <_ZeuZ_> | sebi: shoot it here, let's see what we can find out ;) |
| 14:58 | <Milos_Serbia> | _ZeuZ_: i`m absolute n00b in linux, and every help means very much to me |
| 14:58 | <sebi> | can s.o. take a quick look at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/20436/ interesting should be the lines 10, 24, 38 from the output |
| 14:58 | <_ZeuZ_> | Milos_Serbia, I'll handle you my email address through a PM, so you can freely ask me when you can't seem to find help, of course if you like to... |
| 14:58 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: I think it can only be generated with module-assistant. |
| 14:58 | <marcot> | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=alsa-modules&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 14:59 | <sebi> | my processor is a 1,4ghz pentium m, and it only runs at most at 1,0ghz when using the ondemand governor |
| 14:59 | <sebi> | os is lenny |
| 14:59 | <sebi> | but also failed on etch, afair |
| 15:00 | <_ZeuZ_> | marcot, but you can download alsa-source with Debian patches applied to build with m-a |
| 15:00 | <path_> | marcot, that seems as an acpi-related issue |
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| 15:00 | <path_> | the bios gives the frequency range and then the userspace takes it |
| 15:00 | <_ZeuZ_> | sebi, sounds more like an incosistent implementation coming from the kernel... |
| 15:01 | <_ZeuZ_> | sebi, is it home-made or stock? |
| 15:01 | <chealer> | Stack: which version of libasound2 do you use? |
| 15:01 | <path_> | I mean sebi :-) |
| 15:01 | <sebi> | _ZeuZ_: stock |
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| 15:01 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: that's what I've done before my mouse stoped working. |
| 15:02 | <Stack> | chealer: 1.0.13-2 |
| 15:02 | <_ZeuZ_> | marcot, weird, default installtion should have left thoseinstalled... |
| 15:02 | <sebi> | sebi@sinkpad:~$ uname -a |
| 15:02 | <sebi> | Linux sinkpad 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Thu May 8 02:16:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:02 | <marcot> | _ZeuZ_: it's very strange that now that I'm trying to reinstall the kernel, I just notice /boot/grub doesn't exist anymore. |
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| 15:03 | <marcot> | I think the problem seems to be deeper than I thought. |
| 15:03 | <_ZeuZ_> | : |
| 15:03 | <_ZeuZ_> | :| |
| 15:03 | <_ZeuZ_> | now that was something I could never see xD |
| 15:04 | <marcot> | I'm running it on AMD64. |
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| 15:04 | <_ZeuZ_> | marcot, run update-grub |
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| 15:05 | <marcot> | The linux-image configure script is running it. |
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| 15:06 | <marcot> | But it seems to be with a problem, it's on the same place for a long time, just after Would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? |
| 15:06 | <_ZeuZ_> | it's ok, wait for it... |
| 15:06 | <_ZeuZ_> | It should be doing the grub installation because It haven't found it |
| 15:07 | <sebi> | path_: the bios gives the freq- range. 600MHz-1400MHz. but the ondemand-governor only uses 600MHz-1000MHz |
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| 15:08 | <chealer> | Stack: which sound chipset do you use? |
| 15:08 | <path_> | sebi only ondemand-overnor? userspace works alright ? |
| 15:08 | <path_> | s/overnor/governor |
| 15:08 | <sebi> | urm.. |
| 15:08 | <sebi> | i must test that.. |
| 15:08 | <Stack> | chealer: realtek alc883 |
| 15:09 | <sebi> | path_: i remember, i hat do put in some modules in modules-conf regarding cpufreq |
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| 15:10 | <chealer> | Stack: is that supported by your ALSA version(s)? |
| 15:10 | <sebi> | path_: and when i set governor to performance now, it is at 1,0GHz |
| 15:10 | <Stack> | chealer: yes |
| 15:10 | <EagleScreen> | one simple question: if an onboard graphics card is disabled from BIOS should it appear in lspci output? |
| 15:11 | <path_> | sebi, tried on other kernel? just to rule out that |
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| 15:13 | <chealer> | Stack: what is your sound card? |
| 15:13 | <sebi> | path_: this was also a problem on my etch installation, afair |
| 15:14 | <sebi> | path_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/20438/ |
| 15:14 | <Stack> | chealer: realtek ALC883 (Acer Aspire 3651WLC notebook) |
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| 15:17 | <chealer> | Stack: which driver does that use? |
| 15:19 | <Stack> | chealer: i dont now, i dont install drivers for sound, but sound work. |
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| 15:20 | <compaq> | my systems volume is a little wierd, only the pcm adjust, but the master doesn't do anything |
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| 15:23 | <marco_> | jkh |
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| 15:23 | <marco_> | ciao |
| 15:23 | <marco_> | chi c'e |
| 15:23 | <marco_> | ? |
| 15:23 | <ubuntux> | Hi everyone : i've ubuntu installed with windows vista under ruby ... ubuntu is installed in a 20Go partition ... and now i need more space (about 100Go) ... Question : Is there a risk to lose my data if i increase my ubuntu's partition by the vista's partition manager ? |
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| 15:25 | <chealer> | Stack: please provide your dmesg |
| 15:25 | <_ZeuZ_> | ubuntux, yes, and that would correspond to #ubuntu |
| 15:25 | <noflash> | ubuntux, you'd need to check on #ubuntu on irc.freenoce.net |
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| 15:25 | <noflash> | freenode |
| 15:25 | <_ZeuZ_> | ubuntux, if you want to do it from Vista use paragon disk manager |
| 15:25 | <_ZeuZ_> | ubuntux, or download gparted live CD and use that tools to aid you. |
| 15:26 | <ubuntux> | thanks zeuz |
| 15:27 | <_ZeuZ_> | ubuntux, no problem, just make sure to evolve and leave ubuntu to become a Debian user. |
| 15:27 | <_ZeuZ_> | ;) |
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| 15:28 | <Skrat> | Ubuntu is not debian |
| 15:28 | <Skrat> | Be gone |
| 15:28 | <_ZeuZ_> | Skrat, xD |
| 15:28 | <Skrat> | :-) |
| 15:28 | <ubuntux> | I know ... it's based on debian, but it's not debian :) |
| 15:28 | <Skrat> | All in all; I used Ubuntu for about a week... Debian since then.. 2 years.. |
| 15:28 | <_ZeuZ_> | Skrat, though Ubuntu is debian based and we must give at least a little hint to newcomers so they can switch... |
| 15:28 | <_ZeuZ_> | Skrat, me currently using kFreeBSD |
| 15:28 | <Skrat> | Exactly. It isn't Debian. - _ZeuZ_ fair enough |
| 15:28 | <_ZeuZ_> | (BSD with Debian packagin system) |
| 15:29 | <Skrat> | Lol; cool. |
| 15:29 | <Skrat> | dpkg; apt-get and that? |
| 15:29 | <dpkg> | Skrat: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 15:29 | <_ZeuZ_> | @google kfreebsd |
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| 15:29 | <_ZeuZ_> | Also, if you want another information pervertion, check iDebox (x86 Mac OS with Debian packages also) |
| 15:29 | <_ZeuZ_> | uphuck.de and it's forums contain the info |
| 15:30 | <_ZeuZ_> | well, gotta go now.. take care guys! |
| 15:30 | <ubuntux> | i'm gonna do it from vista by paragon disk manager |
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| 15:31 | <ubuntux> | anyway i'm not gonna disturb you more, i'm going to look for help in a ubuntu channel |
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| 15:31 | * | _ZeuZ_ Thinks ubuntux is smart for saying that |
| 15:31 | <Skrat> | _ZeuZ_; a proprietary OS with Debian package management built in? Is that illegal? |
| 15:31 | <Skrat> | :) |
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| 15:31 | <Skrat> | Try #ubuntu on Free... node... |
| 15:32 | <_ZeuZ_> | Skrat, dunno, x'D |
| 15:32 | <_ZeuZ_> | it's not meant to be propietary |
| 15:32 | <_ZeuZ_> | it would be like OpenMAC with DEB installing |
| 15:32 | <Skrat> | THERES OPENMAC? |
| 15:32 | <Skrat> | Lol. *Googles* |
| 15:32 | <_ZeuZ_> | Skrat, there are clones, wich one of them is called like that.. |
| 15:33 | <_ZeuZ_> | If I catch you online later, I'll bring you some more info... |
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| 15:33 | <sebi> | path_: hm.. i guess, when i deinstall cpufrequtils and reboot the laptop, then it will run fine |
| 15:33 | <_ZeuZ_> | OpenMac aims to have free packages more than propietary ones... |
| 15:33 | <_ZeuZ_> | keeping only the mac kernel |
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| 15:33 | <Skrat> | Cool; catch you later _ZeuZ_ |
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| 15:38 | <Stack> | chealer: i cant paste, its very big |
| 15:38 | <chealer> | Stack: in a pastebin |
| 15:38 | <chealer> | !tell Stack about paste |
| 15:38 | <compaq> | his there a way to lspci kinda thing for the keyboard? |
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| 15:40 | <EagleScreen> | one simple question: if an onboard graphics card is disabled from BIOS should it appear in lspci output? |
| 15:40 | <compaq> | nope |
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| 15:41 | <Stack> | chealer: Posting 6570 from Stack posted at 2008-06-15 21:40:37 expires: 2008-06-18 21:40:37 |
| 15:41 | <chealer> | Stack: what is its URL? |
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| 15:41 | <compaq> | I have a wierd situation, my computers master volume doesnt work, I have to use the pcm to adjust sound |
| 15:41 | <Stack> | chealer: http://paste.debian.net/6570/ |
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| 15:43 | <chealer> | Stack: looks like there's a problem with your sound driver. which Linux image do you use? |
| 15:43 | <Stack> | chealer: debian 4.0r3 |
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| 15:44 | <chealer> | Stack: that's your distribution, I'm asking which image of the Linux kernel you use |
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| 15:47 | <Stack> | chealer: 2.6.18-6-686 |
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| 15:47 | <chealer> | Stack: do you use the stock ALSA modules that come with this kernel? |
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| 15:47 | <Stack> | chealer: I think - yes |
| 15:48 | <chealer> | Stack: I suggest trying a newer ALSA drivers version. you could compile new modules from alsa-source |
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| 15:49 | <Stack> | chealer: Thx very much! |
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| 15:51 | <EagleScreen> | then.. new ALSA modules will automatically replace current ALSA kernel modules? |
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| 15:54 | <compaq> | hehe, last year, I was trying to setup my computer to go straight into Xwindows, skipping gdm, but I couldn't do it, and thought it was not possible every trying, now I just figured it out and it was so easy |
| 15:55 | <chealer> | EagleScreen: no, they'd need to be reloaded |
| 15:55 | <chealer> | !tell compaq about xwindows |
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| 15:57 | <Stack> | !tell Stack about xwindows |
| 15:57 | <path__> | sebi, good luck :) |
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| 15:59 | <sebi> | path__: the problem is... i don't want the cpu runing at 1400mhz the whole time.. |
| 15:59 | <path__> | sebi, you should try echo |
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| 15:59 | <path__> | it works better for me than cpufreqd |
| 16:00 | <path__> | for instance echo "userspace" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 16:00 | <path__> | and so on |
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| 16:01 | <lostone> | i want to make sure grub gets installed on the mbr of the debian install. |
| 16:01 | <sebi> | path: i used that too.. |
| 16:01 | <lostone> | but i'm not sure which disk to designate when grub is being installed. |
| 16:01 | <lostone> | *wether the disk is hda hdb etc. |
| 16:02 | <mase> | lostone there is a file like /boot/grup/device.lst |
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| 16:02 | <sebi> | path: cpufreq-utils has the advantage that it sets it right at boot-time and is "the debian way" ^^ |
| 16:02 | <path> | I know that cpufreq-utils is sebi |
| 16:02 | <path> | s/that/what |
| 16:03 | <lostone> | the system isn't installed yet. how do i acces /boot/grub/devicelist dutin ginstall? |
| 16:03 | <lostone> | *during |
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| 16:04 | <lostone> | does that make sense? |
| 16:04 | <fenix> | oi |
| 16:04 | <fenix> | oi |
| 16:04 | <fenix> | oi |
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| 16:13 | <sebi> | path: it seems, the cpufreq is gone after the reboot |
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| 16:21 | <taodp> | exit |
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| 16:23 | * | Skrat waves |
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| 16:26 | <tzafrir_> | is there a xen-enabled kernel in Lenny / Sid? |
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| 16:29 | <tzafrir_> | Well, in Sid? |
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| 16:51 | <compaq> | anyone? |
| 16:51 | <compaq> | I got some wierd audio troubles, only the pcm volume adjuster works |
| 16:52 | <amphi> | compaq: what sound card? |
| 16:53 | <compaq> | amphi, not sure. 1 sec |
| 16:53 | <compaq> | amphi, intel |
| 16:54 | <compaq> | 8280 |
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| 17:01 | <amphi> | compaq: you have no master channel? |
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| 17:02 | <compaq> | amphi, when I adjust volume with the master channel, the volume doesn't change, I have to adjust volume using the pcm |
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| 17:02 | <Reggae> | Hi, can anyone tell me how do i install debian on my ibook g3? i tried every websites manual, n some of people suggestion here, happily it failed? pls help me as im going to america soon, i need to get my laptop working fast. thanks .. |
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| 17:06 | <amphi> | compaq: perhaps you need a newer version of alsa |
| 17:06 | <amphi> | compaq: what kernel version do you have there? |
| 17:06 | <compaq> | 2.6.18 |
| 17:06 | <compaq> | amphi, it is a fresh install from a day ago |
| 17:07 | <enouf> | sebi: i only saw some referneces to cpufreq, have a look at /etc/sysfs.conf |
| 17:07 | <amphi> | compaq: you'll need a considerably newer alsa version IMHO; IIRC, I only got a master channel at all with .25 |
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| 17:08 | <amphi> | compaq: kernel 2.6.25 that is |
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| 17:08 | <compaq> | how did you get that kernel going? |
| 17:08 | <compaq> | is there a way to chose testing when you do a netinstall? |
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| 17:09 | <amphi> | compaq: you could get a lenny netinstall iso, or dist-upgrade |
| 17:09 | <compaq> | last time I did upgrade, it took ten times longer than an install, and it didn't upgrade kernel. |
| 17:09 | <amphi> | mine is vanilla with some patches I compiled myself |
| 17:09 | <compaq> | its take over an hour to download the cd |
| 17:09 | <amphi> | compaq: you must explicitly install a newer kernel after the dist-upgrade |
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| 17:10 | <compaq> | amphi, but first I gotta change my sources to testing eh? Can I do that using the netinstall |
| 17:11 | <amphi> | compaq: you can install the stable base system, adjust your sources.list, dist-upgrade, and install what you want thereafter |
| 17:11 | <amphi> | !tell compaq about etch->lenny |
| 17:11 | <Reggae> | Hi, can anyone tell me how do i install debian on my ibook g3? i tried every websites manual, n some of people suggestion here, happily it failed? pls help me as im going to america soon, i need to get my laptop working fast. thanks |
| 17:12 | <compaq> | amphi, what this dist-upgrade command, never heard of it before. And when you say adjust sources, you mean just change all the stables to testing, and I'm off |
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| 17:12 | <amphi> | Reggae: what's the problem? IIRC when I installed debian on an ibook (g3 I'm pretty sure), there were no hiccoughs |
| 17:12 | <amphi> | compaq: did you read what dpkg told you? |
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| 17:13 | <Villarroel> | Hi! |
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| 17:14 | <compaq> | amphi, cool, thanks, I am off to it, I let you know in a bit if you are still around, thanks for your help |
| 17:14 | <Villarroel> | How can I obtain a list of the daemons running on my box, or programs/packages which run on bg, there isnt a debtag for that or something? |
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| 17:15 | <Reggae> | to amphi, but i stuggled and it seems it does not allow me to let in? ins not inviting i can tell. |
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| 17:16 | <amphi> | compaq: you're welcome - good luck |
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| 17:16 | <debian> | hi |
| 17:16 | <amphi> | Reggae: what problem are you having? you could also ask in #debian-ppc BTW |
| 17:17 | <thruxton> | Villarroel: netstat -an | grep LISTEN |
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| 17:17 | <lostone> | is there a way to add a os installation to grub automatically? a tool or application that can detect os installations on a system, instead of editing the menu.lst by hand for everything? |
| 17:17 | <Villarroel> | thruxton: all daemons open a port? |
| 17:18 | <compaq> | amphi, I could probably make those sources.list changes by going into a shell during netinstall. Isn't there a Lenny netinstall iso? |
| 17:18 | <Reggae> | whats the server for debian-ppc? (btw, im stuck at yaboot prompt where i try to boot from the ISO file i'd burnt using transmac and i got this error saying that "/vmlinux : not a valid ELF image" |
| 17:18 | <Reggae> | } |
| 17:18 | <enouf> | try #debainppc on freenode as well, iinm |
| 17:19 | <Villarroel> | Well, it is something, thanks. |
| 17:19 | <thruxton> | Villarroel: hmm, some might not, im not sure |
| 17:19 | <enouf> | try rEFIt ? or bootcamp? no idea really |
| 17:19 | <Villarroel> | thruxton: maybe, we should have a debtag that describe this, don't you think? |
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| 17:19 | <igiuggiu> | hi |
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| 17:20 | <Reggae> | how do i get into #debian-ppc and what is the server add for example : /server irc.debian?? |
| 17:20 | <enouf> | Villarroel: maybe same result, but as root lsof | egrep 'LIST|ESTAB' |
| 17:21 | <thruxton> | Villarroel: a simple ps aux will list all running daemons, but it will also list processes that are not daemons |
| 17:21 | <enouf> | Reggae: on this server, do /join #debian-ppc |
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| 17:21 | <benjamindees> | why are there two versions of ndiswrapper-utils for etch? |
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| 17:21 | <Reggae> | ok, thanks enouf...and amphi you really can't help me out? otherwise ill just go to debian-ppc site then.. |
| 17:22 | <enouf> | Reggae: otherwise once you connect to the irc.freenode.net server, do /join #debianppc |
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| 17:23 | <enouf> | freenode really messed up their chan searching with some ALIS crao |
| 17:23 | <enouf> | crapola* |
| 17:23 | <Reggae> | thanks guys |
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| 17:24 | <compaq> | whats wrong with deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates lenny contrib |
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| 17:25 | <valdyn> | !sources.list |
| 17:25 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 17:26 | <amphi> | compaq: there is a lenny netinstall iso |
| 17:26 | <compaq> | amphi, yeah right, whats the link? |
| 17:26 | <xid> | compaq, change contrib to main |
| 17:26 | <compaq> | amphi, I looked I couldn't find |
| 17:26 | <compaq> | xid, thanks |
| 17:26 | <compaq> | xid, yep, that did it, I had lenny instead of main |
| 17:26 | <chealer> | compaq: each line can only provide one suite |
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| 17:27 | <amphi> | compaq: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 17:28 | <thruxton> | Villarroel: lsof -i -n maybe? |
| 17:28 | <thruxton> | |
| 17:28 | <Wesley> | how can I disable ipv6? |
| 17:29 | <Villarroel> | thruxton: debtags grep interface::daemon | awk --field-separator=: '{ print $1; }' | xargs -n1 `something to determine if the package is installed` |
| 17:29 | <compaq> | amphi, thanks, the lenny cd takes only ten mins to download too |
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| 17:32 | <thruxton> | Villarroel: that generates a ton of output here |
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| 17:35 | <benjamindees> | !ndiswrapper |
| 17:35 | <dpkg> | ndiswrapper is probably a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux (x86 or x86-64 only). If there is a Linux driver for your card, first consider that instead; if there isn't, ask me about <ndiswrapper one-liner> to set up NDISwrapper. #ndiswrapper @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 17:39 | <ccevo> | whats up with suse, they got a intel wifi driver, but they don't or can't release it, but in their linux version it is available |
| 17:40 | <ccevo> | I had an IBM thinkpad, and it had wifi working fine with the suse pre-install, but when I tried with debian, it didn't work |
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| 17:41 | <benjamindees> | ccevo, debian usually lags behind other distros in hardware support |
| 17:41 | <amphi> | ccevo: what card? which kernel? |
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| 17:44 | <ccevo> | amphi, ahhh, it was while ago, I can't remember, I played with ndiswrapper too, but I could get it going either, so I just never used wireless. I wanna buy a wireless card though, what is good chose for debian, cause I really like this distro |
| 17:44 | <ccevo> | amphi, its me compaq btw, I am my old another machine, cause its got a cd burner |
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| 17:47 | <amphi> | !wireless |
| 17:47 | <dpkg> | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. I may have information on your model, try asking me (eg. /msg dpkg wg311), also ask about <listkeys>. Atheros: <madwifi>; Atmel: <at76_usb>; Broadcom: <bcm43xx>, <b43>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>; Ralink: <rt2x00>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; ZyDAS: <zd1211rw>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>. |
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| 17:51 | <Villarroel> | It's a bit slow, but it will do the job, for searching all daemons installed. -- # debtags --names grep interface::daemon | xargs -n1 -I{} aptitude search '~N' '^{}$' | egrep "^i" |
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| 17:52 | <ootput> | why is my xsession only capable of showing keys: y, u, i, p, d, h, j, l, ', x, v, n |
| 17:52 | <ootput> | those keys are where they ought to be on a qwerty keyboard |
| 17:52 | <benjamindees> | does building the ndiswrapper module require a built kernel tree? |
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| 17:53 | <amphi> | benjamindees: I would imagine kernel headers is enough, but I've not done it |
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| 18:08 | <libervisco> | Hi |
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| 18:09 | <libervisco> | Is sid safe at the moment? |
| 18:09 | <libervisco> | for dist-upgrade even? |
| 18:09 | -!- | knoppix__ is now known as Guest105 |
| 18:09 | * | Bladesman wonders if it's safe to dist-upgrade to Lenny yet. |
| 18:10 | <libervisco> | safe for a desktop home system.. safe as in, will it boot and will X start, at the very least :P |
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| 18:10 | <Bladesman> | I'm just wondering if all the backported stuff has been fixed. |
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| 18:11 | <libervisco> | oh, I don't know about backported.. don't need them on sid |
| 18:11 | <dondelelcaro> | Bladesman: what backported stuff? |
| 18:12 | <Bladesman> | Wasn't perl backported due to some bug a couple weeks back and you had to remove and reinstall perl? |
| 18:12 | <dondelelcaro> | nope |
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| 18:13 | <tanja> | wer kann mir helfen??? |
| 18:13 | <streuner> | nobody |
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| 18:13 | <streuner> | !ask |
| 18:13 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:13 | * | Bladesman eyes the lights on his wireless modem and ponders a dist-upgrade. |
| 18:13 | <streuner> | tanja: and english please |
| 18:14 | <streuner> | tanja: if you have a knoppix question, just ask in #knoppix (irc.freenode.net) |
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| 18:14 | <tanja> | who can help me?? |
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| 18:15 | * | Bladesman doesn't know knoppix. |
| 18:16 | <streuner> | tanja: what kind of technical problem do you have? |
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| 18:16 | <tanja> | i want to have msn |
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| 18:17 | <streuner> | there is amsn and pidgin (formerly gaim) which should be able to use msn as well |
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| 18:19 | <EagleScreen> | #debian-es |
| 18:20 | <ootput> | any of you using ratpoison in etch? |
| 18:20 | <ootput> | why is my xsession only capable of showing keys: y, u, i, p, d, h, j, l, ', x, v, n |
| 18:20 | <ootput> | those keys are where they ought to be on a qwerty keyboard |
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| 18:23 | <Reggae> | how do i install debian on ibook g3 exactly? im always stuck on yaboot prompt...i tried every guides from the web, and even helps frompeople, but i still do not understand why? is there something wrong i did? |
| 18:23 | <Reggae> | i tried debian-ppc and debianppc server, no one able to answer this, is it rare insuch case im having? |
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| 18:24 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae hi |
| 18:24 | <chealer> | libervisco: no. you don't want to use sid anyway |
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| 18:24 | <Reggae> | hi eaglescreen, able to solve my probs? |
| 18:24 | <libervisco> | chealer, I use it for two weeks now |
| 18:25 | <EagleScreen> | may be, but i have never used a power pc |
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| 18:25 | <EagleScreen> | tell me, have had any trouble during installation process? |
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| 18:27 | <Reggae> | how do i install debian on ibook g3 exactly? im always stuck on yaboot prompt...i tried every guides from the web, and even helps frompeople, but i still do not understand why? is there something wrong i did? |
| 18:27 | <Reggae> | anyone could help at least? im struggling? |
| 18:27 | <EagleScreen> | i think ibook g3 is powerpc arch, is it right? |
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| 18:28 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, what kind of Debian installation do you want? |
| 18:30 | <Reggae> | for ibook g3, is the one i need, but i could not boot it? |
| 18:31 | <EagleScreen> | are you sure you downloaded the correct CD? for the correct arch? |
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| 18:31 | <Reggae> | yes, ibook uses power pc arch, so i downloaded for ppc version. |
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| 18:32 | <Reggae> | it gave me an error of (/vmlinux : not a valid ELF image) |
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| 18:33 | <EagleScreen> | it seems this CD image are corrupt |
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| 18:34 | <EagleScreen> | would you liek use Debian Etch or Debian lenny? |
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| 18:35 | <lostone> | hi |
| 18:35 | <lostone> | back |
| 18:35 | <lostone> | anyone up? |
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| 18:35 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, visit this web: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/powerpc/iso-cd/ |
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| 18:36 | <Reggae> | should i get the netinst or the full one instead? |
| 18:36 | <EagleScreen> | what do u like more GNOME or KDE? |
| 18:36 | <lostone> | if windows is on hd1 and debian is on hd2 and grub is installed to the boot sector of hd1, how could you remove grub if you decide to remove the debian disk? |
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| 18:37 | <Reggae> | whats GNOME and KDE btw? |
| 18:37 | <azeem> | lostone: install another (e.g. the Windows) bootloader over it |
| 18:37 | <azeem> | Reggae: desktop environments |
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| 18:37 | <_ZeuZ_> | goddamit... |
| 18:38 | <EagleScreen> | they are desktop enviroments |
| 18:38 | <Reggae> | i would choose the best and easietst as u suggested. |
| 18:38 | <lostone> | reggae: how's your internet connection? if you use the netinstall cd all the packages are downloaded during install. if you get the iso then it's all on the cd. netinstall seems like it would automatically get you the most current packages during install and you would have less to update later. |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | Reggae: did you manage to boot one of the install CDs? |
| 18:38 | <EagleScreen> | ok |
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| 18:38 | <lostone> | azeem: how does one go about installing the windows bootloader? i've never heard of that. |
| 18:38 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, download this then: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-powerpc-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 18:38 | <_ZeuZ_> | until last boot it all worked fine, now dmesg sais that the wireless interface get's deauthenticated no matter what network I choose (mine one with WPA AES and the other without it) with reason 3 |
| 18:38 | <azeem> | lostone: ask some Windows guy |
| 18:38 | <lostone> | heh |
| 18:39 | <Reggae> | azeem : still no result, i tried on imation cd burner, i bought new ones just for it... |
| 18:39 | * | lostone fades into off-topic |
| 18:39 | <azeem> | lostone: removing grub without installing another bootloader doesn't sound smart |
| 18:39 | <lostone> | ...wait. couldn't i just use grub to boot windows from then on? |
| 18:40 | <Reggae> | is it stable eaglescreen? |
| 18:40 | <lostone> | would that work in reality? |
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| 18:40 | <lostone> | don't see why not |
| 18:40 | <azeem> | lostone: are you using it to boot it now? |
| 18:40 | <lostone> | nope. haven't installed debian yet |
| 18:40 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, that is relative |
| 18:40 | <azeem> | eh, ok |
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| 18:40 | <azeem> | sure you can, if you want |
| 18:41 | <benjamindees> | lostone, yeah there is no reason to remove grub |
| 18:41 | <EagleScreen> | the official stable release is not that |
| 18:41 | <lostone> | seems more secure than the windows bootloader, no? options for password protection and such. where's the downside? |
| 18:41 | <lostone> | i don't see one |
| 18:41 | <Reggae> | ok, after i donwloaded it, what should i do? do i need to do the yaboot command or just press "c" and boot from the cd itself? |
| 18:41 | <EagleScreen> | the official stable release is Etch 4.0r3, i have given you Lenny, future 5.0 |
| 18:42 | <azeem> | Reggae: read the installation guide |
| 18:42 | <EagleScreen> | lenny is more much updated than Etch |
| 18:42 | <EagleScreen> | but Etch is more stable than lenny |
| 18:42 | <Reggae> | yes azeem, i read like all twice, nothing helps. I try n try, i seriously don't know where the problem occurs, |
| 18:43 | <lostone> | is it gutsy>etch>lenny? |
| 18:43 | <azeem> | lostone: no, gutsy is a ubuntu release |
| 18:43 | <Reggae> | yes |
| 18:43 | <lostone> | reggae: what are you trying? |
| 18:43 | <Reggae> | etch |
| 18:43 | <azeem> | Reggae: did you verify your burnt iso yet? |
| 18:43 | <lostone> | just a clean install of lenny? |
| 18:43 | <azeem> | lostone: on a ibook g3 |
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| 18:44 | <Reggae> | yes i guess, but i couldnt get the code from the cd? |
| 18:44 | <azeem> | why not? |
| 18:45 | <lostone> | oh. your the ibook guy |
| 18:45 | <lostone> | hows that working? |
| 18:45 | <azeem> | maybe you cd burning application has a verification feature as well? |
| 18:45 | <Reggae> | btw the wat, i got transmac do you think i suppose to use automatic, data file, text file, resource file, mac binary, or BinHex (HGX) file translation?? |
| 18:46 | <Reggae> | by the way* not btw the wat.. |
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| 18:48 | <Reggae> | btw the wat, i got transmac do you think i suppose to use automatic, data file, text file, resource file, mac binary, or BinHex (HGX) file translation?? |
| 18:48 | <Reggae> | azeem : any suggested cd burning app that has verification features? (i meant the best and recommended)? |
| 18:49 | <hachi> | my ssh-agent on debian seems to be not using key comments at all |
| 18:50 | <hachi> | it used to put the filename in that spot, which was bad enough... rather than using the comment from the key |
| 18:50 | <hachi> | but now it leaves it blank |
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| 18:52 | <azeem> | Reggae: I only know Linux apps |
| 18:52 | <Reggae> | btw the wat, i got transmac do you think i suppose to use automatic, data file, text file, resource file, mac binary, or BinHex (HGX) file translation?? (to burn debian iso for ibook g3)>? |
| 18:52 | <azeem> | what is transmac? |
| 18:52 | <azeem> | Reggae: please don't repeat |
| 18:52 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, i dont know burning apps for Mac |
| 18:52 | <EagleScreen> | in Windows you have ImgBurn, and for Linux you have K3b |
| 18:53 | <Reggae> | ah yes, im using imgburn too |
| 18:54 | <EagleScreen> | ImgBurn has verification function |
| 18:54 | <Reggae> | can give me exact correct way to burn debian for ibook? i need to make sure im doing it correctly. thanks alot. |
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| 18:54 | <Reggae> | azeem : transmac is a cd burning program that burns cd for mac to read only. |
| 18:54 | <EagleScreen> | in addiction, Debian installation CD can check for errors itself |
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| 18:55 | <Reggae> | ok, im trying to verify the cd, i need to find the option, btw ISO file can be burn on cd? i thought it was for dvd's? |
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| 18:56 | <EagleScreen> | ISO file is for burnning into CD |
| 18:56 | <benjamindees> | depends on the .iso file |
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| 18:56 | <Reggae> | so its mend for cd right, i meant the debian CD ISO file you gave me? |
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| 18:56 | <compaq> | man...I switched to Lenny instead of etch. But I can't change screen resolution anymore, I like 1024, and now I am at 1280 |
| 18:57 | <Kerz> | it can :) |
| 18:57 | <azeem> | Reggae: eh, what did you do so far with it? |
| 18:57 | <Kerz> | y not? |
| 18:57 | <compaq> | How do you change screen resolution in Lenny |
| 18:57 | <Kerz> | i backup iso images of ps2 games and burn em and they run :) |
| 18:57 | <Reggae> | thats dvd right kerz? |
| 18:58 | <Kerz> | mostly |
| 18:58 | <Reggae> | azeem : burning and burning the same thing again |
| 18:58 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, do not burn and burn the same thing |
| 18:58 | <EagleScreen> | download a new Cd image |
| 18:59 | <EagleScreen> | Reggae, visit: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/powerpc/iso-cd/ |
| 18:59 | <EagleScreen> | there are images for stable release |
| 18:59 | <Reggae> | yes im downloading the one you gave me now, meantime im changing settings to burn the same thing till i get it right to assure its not a setting problem (im using a cd rewritablle, so no worries, im saving) |
| 18:59 | <compaq> | The Lenny image is way more awesome than the etch, i would get that if I were you |
| 19:00 | <compaq> | Not only that, it only take 10mins to download vs 1hr |
| 19:00 | <EagleScreen> | Compaq did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?? |
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| 19:00 | <Reggae> | eaglescreen : is lenny compatible with ibook g3 600mhz year 2002 model, its quite aging dough? |
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| 19:01 | <EagleScreen> | Yes ofcourse, it is compatible, the first download link i gave you is for lenny |
| 19:01 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, yep, thats the way I always do it, but in Lenny, it isn't available to change screen resolution, thats why I was asking. They have it in gnome though, but when I changed it there, the screen went blank |
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| 19:01 | * | Bladesman jamz... |
| 19:01 | <Bladesman> | Keep well, all. |
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| 19:02 | <Reggae> | for your info i downloaded ubuntu, and i could feel my ibook is trying hard to boot it, end up it couldnt, but debian, i couldnt felt a thing. |
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| 19:02 | <azeem> | Reggae: that's not very specific |
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| 19:03 | <azeem> | Reggae: are you saying the Ubuntu CD booted into the installer right away, but the Debian one didn't? |
| 19:03 | <EagleScreen> | now i see, th new xorg configuration does not ask for resolution |
| 19:03 | <_ZeuZ_> | Solved it, recompiled b43 module WITH the packets injection patch |
| 19:04 | <Reggae> | azeem : not exactly, but its trying really hard end up it couldnt boot into installer, but using debian cd its like i could not feel its even trying to boot. |
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| 19:04 | <compaq> | the new Lenny netinstall cd is awesome, it has beauty gui installer, just click next |
| 19:05 | <azeem> | Reggae: what does it do instead? |
| 19:05 | <azeem> | etch had a gui installer as well |
| 19:05 | <compaq> | azeem, can you tell me how to change screen resolution in Lenny please. I have problem, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wouldn't do it, and when I did it in gnome the screen went blank |
| 19:05 | <Reggae> | nothing, it just bring me back to MAC OS 10.3 desktop. (i was pretty excited dough) |
| 19:06 | <azeem> | compaq: please don't ask specific people, ask the chan |
| 19:06 | <azeem> | Reggae: ok, if you look at the cd from your finder, what files are on it? |
| 19:07 | <Reggae> | hold on yeah, cause im burning the cd, ill tell u once i get it done, u meant all folders and files right? |
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| 19:07 | <Reggae> | (edit) from the root itself? |
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| 19:08 | <azeem> | just making sure there is more than one file on it |
| 19:08 | <EagleScreen> | Compaq, you can use an xorg.conf in which resolutions to be specified |
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| 19:09 | <EagleScreen> | Compaq, you can boot a knoppix 5.1 CD, then generate correct xorg.conf and paste it into your Debian |
| 19:10 | <Reggae> | yes and im sure it has more than 5 files (inclusive folders) in the root itself, |
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| 19:10 | <Reggae> | if it still won;t work im giving up on cd, i wanna try booting and install from harddisk itself. |
| 19:10 | <azeem> | Reggae: so how do you get that "not an ELF" error if you say it does "nothing, it just brings me back to Mac OS X"? |
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| 19:13 | <Reggae> | i got that error when i access to yaboot, (i bot directly to my mac OS 10.3 when i press the boot key) i get what i mean? |
| 19:13 | <EagleScreen> | Compaq, try also installing and using the package: xdebconfigurator |
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| 19:14 | <Reggae> | aha...i got it, ubuntu boot installer works!! |
| 19:14 | <knoppix__> | juhu |
| 19:14 | <Reggae> | not debian, i think theres error on debians file... |
| 19:14 | <knoppix__> | hi |
| 19:14 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, thanks. Actually I looked at the xorg.conf file, and it doesn't include the screen resolution in there |
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| 19:15 | <EagleScreen> | Yes, i know, but it still can use xorg.conf in older format, with resolutions in it |
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| 19:16 | <Reggae> | or, im guessing its the setting i made it wrong and thats why debian could not work? correct me? |
| 19:16 | <EagleScreen> | you need to boot a like Debian system in you computer, run the old dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which was interactive, and safe a correct xorg.conf, after that, copy it to your Debian and use it |
| 19:16 | <azeem> | Reggae: you can try posting to the powerpc mailing list maybe |
| 19:16 | <Kerz> | mayb the debian iso u got was corrupted |
| 19:16 | <azeem> | Reggae: people in here usually don't run powerpcs |
| 19:17 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, hmmm, I see, but there must be a way to configure monitors in Lenny |
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| 19:17 | <EagleScreen> | yes |
| 19:17 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, xdebconfigurator is auto, so it doesn't let you select screen resolution |
| 19:17 | <azeem> | Reggae: but really until you've verified the download and the burnt cd, I'd say it's your fault |
| 19:17 | <EagleScreen> | i said you must test package xdebconfigurator |
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| 19:18 | <EagleScreen> | mmmm |
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| 19:19 | <azeem> | compaq: did you check your X.org logs about which modelines it detected? |
| 19:19 | <compaq> | azeem, I don't know how to do that? |
| 19:19 | <Reggae> | yes, and so ill try to verufy it and make sure things, before doing something unnessasserily. |
| 19:19 | <Reggae> | verify* |
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| 19:20 | <EagleScreen> | i know dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can be run with arguments, may be some of then is to run it in mode interactive? |
| 19:20 | <azeem> | compaq: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 19:22 | <compaq> | azeem, it has various modelines detected there |
| 19:23 | <Reggae> | until here then, i would say thanks to azeem, eaglescreen, _Zeuz_, (privately special tx to kerz..helped me alot), im hoping your support will help more people next time, im pretty thankful meeting you guys and spending time to help guys out, so thanks, anything ill just refer you guys or etc.... |
| 19:23 | <Reggae> | oh yeah and avu too (edit) |
| 19:23 | <compaq> | is there a way to just make all the fonts larger for all apps in gnome, cause then I can stick with 1280 screen |
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| 19:24 | <azeem> | compaq: wait, you want a smaller than native resolution? |
| 19:25 | <azeem> | compaq: hello? |
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| 19:25 | <compaq> | azeem, yeah, I like 1024, I have 1280. But also, later I may change my monitor, and so how do I do it now, if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't deal with the monitor anymore |
| 19:25 | <azeem> | try to run gnome-display-properties then |
| 19:26 | <compaq> | azeem, yeah, I changed all the fonts from 10 to 14, hehe, its cool now |
| 19:26 | <compaq> | azeem, but what about when I wanna change monitor all together |
| 19:27 | <compaq> | azeem, I went to system-preferences-fontsTAB |
| 19:27 | <CMA> | why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't deal with the monitor anymore ? |
| 19:28 | <compaq> | CMA, no...not for Lenny |
| 19:28 | <lupine> | because the x server is now awesome enough to do autodetection |
| 19:28 | <compaq> | CMA, Even if you look at the xorg.conf file, it is in there anymore |
| 19:28 | <CMA> | don't works for me |
| 19:28 | <compaq> | They moved it |
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| 19:29 | <CMA> | and I lose xorg.conf every upgrade |
| 19:29 | <EagleScreen> | I dislike this new xorg confoguration |
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| 19:30 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, well, there must be a good reason and a new way which is better, we are just ignorant yet |
| 19:30 | <CMA> | I don't dislike if me xorg.conf keep intact and with -p low maybe or something I can deal with sync and so |
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| 19:30 | <EagleScreen> | i hope for it to be as you say |
| 19:30 | <compaq> | Hahaha, I put my fonts at 20, it like basically 900x700resolution now |
| 19:30 | <CMA> | sorry for me english... |
| 19:31 | <CMA> | aptsh rocks! |
| 19:31 | <compaq> | I don't get it, even Xdebconfigurator, doesn't do anything, just output information, How the heck do you change monitors now? |
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| 19:31 | <CMA> | compq, by hand or with xrandr |
| 19:32 | <CMA> | change monitors? |
| 19:32 | <compaq> | CMA, what you mean, you can't cause the monitor section isn't even in xorg.conf file either |
| 19:33 | <compaq> | CMA, if you use one monitors config on another, the monitor will get ruined |
| 19:33 | <lostone> | really? |
| 19:33 | <CMA> | sorry, I didn't read, I'm about to fall asleep |
| 19:33 | <lostone> | so taking one debian installation and putting it another system and trying to boot could fry your monitor? |
| 19:34 | <CMA> | maybe |
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| 19:34 | <lostone> | o_O |
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| 19:34 | <compaq> | lostone, if you take a linux computer, unplug the monitor and plug in another monitor, with out reconfigure X, then yes, monitor will most likely be FRY |
| 19:35 | <CMA> | if sync ranges or resolution are too high |
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| 19:35 | <CMA> | bang |
| 19:35 | <CMA> | :p |
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| 19:36 | <compaq> | CMA, I don't know the details, but either way, the X configures for specific monitors, it does a probe, and uses the data, different monitor provide different data, you wanna use specif X configuration for you monitor...omg |
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| 19:36 | <azulesmar> | Hallo! Anyone have a moment to help me figure out a driver issue? |
| 19:36 | <CMA> | don't ask to ask |
| 19:36 | <compaq> | so where are all the Lenny proponent, what happenned to amphi |
| 19:36 | <EagleScreen> | i think if yo uchange monitor, you need run again dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it should to autoconfigure it |
| 19:37 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, nope, not anymore |
| 19:37 | <EagleScreen> | yes, it autoconfigure in non-interactive way the new monitor |
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| 19:37 | <EagleScreen> | xorg auto detect it |
| 19:37 | <CMA> | if the new xorg configuration is automagic, ctrl+alt+backspace will do? |
| 19:37 | <azulesmar> | no? nobody? can't get my audiocard installed... |
| 19:38 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, well, there is no such monitor section in xorg.conf, so I think maybe not, let me see again |
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| 19:38 | <lupine> | compaq: only old monitors will lose their blue smoke, generally speaking |
| 19:38 | <CMA> | azulesmar: don't ask to ask, if someone knows, a reply will be sent |
| 19:38 | <compaq> | man...the net is much slower in Lenny than etch |
| 19:38 | <lupine> | anything relatively new should just lol at you |
| 19:39 | <CMA> | sorry for me english! :'( |
| 19:39 | <azulesmar> | alrighty! I have an audigy x-fi. i read the latest alsa had drivers for it, but even installing beta drivers from source and moving to unstable hasn't helped |
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| 19:39 | <EagleScreen> | yes, there is not monitor section now in xorg.conf, but xorg auto detect you monitor and auto confgure X server for it |
| 19:39 | <azulesmar> | alsaconf and udev don't even detect it |
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| 19:39 | <CMA> | compaq: just switch to sid |
| 19:39 | <lupine> | azulesmar: then you don't have a kernel module for it, most likely |
| 19:39 | <EagleScreen> | sid is very unstable |
| 19:39 | <azulesmar> | how/where do I get one? |
| 19:39 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, well, you cant chose your screen resolution anymore |
| 19:39 | <EagleScreen> | yes, i know |
| 19:40 | <lupine> | compaq: xrandr is the way forward |
| 19:40 | <CMA> | sid is great |
| 19:40 | <compaq> | lupine, thanks, I am gonna check it out now |
| 19:40 | <compaq> | CMA, isn't it unstable? |
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| 19:40 | <EagleScreen> | Ubuntu is working so since a few time, i alreadu had seen this |
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| 19:40 | <lupine> | azulesmar: hmm, nothing in the Debian repos. You might need a Brand New Kernel(tm) |
| 19:40 | <lupine> | or it might just be unsupported entirely |
| 19:41 | <azulesmar> | ok, so alsa supports but the debian kernel doesn't |
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| 19:41 | <azulesmar> | that might explain it |
| 19:41 | <CMA> | compaq: lenny packages need to pass trught sid, so, bugfixes too |
| 19:41 | <azulesmar> | is there a way to find out if latest kernel would have it without installing? |
| 19:41 | <EagleScreen> | I do not recomend using sid |
| 19:41 | <lupine> | azulesmar: google is your friend. wiki says: "Drivers for Linux have been available for the X-Fi series since September 2007. However, the drivers remain in beta, closed source. There are open sourced drivers for the X-FI from [4front OSS], available for all major unices." |
| 19:41 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, yeah I know, i did once |
| 19:42 | <CMA> | compaq: so much updates day by day |
| 19:42 | <azulesmar> | i went to the 4front site but couldnt find a dang thing |
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| 19:42 | <compaq> | man...my systems wierd, when I adjust the master controls, it does nothing, I can only adjust using the pcm device |
| 19:42 | <lupine> | the closed-source X-Fi driver is amd64 only, it seems |
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| 19:43 | <compaq> | I don't think it a good idea to use pcm device directly like that all the time |
| 19:43 | <lupine> | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=990 gives an overview |
| 19:43 | <lupine> | also, sid isn't that bad IME |
| 19:43 | <lupine> | it eats your babies, but spits them out again mostly unharmed |
| 19:43 | <compaq> | my displace is sooo slow in 1280, I wanna set to 1024 |
| 19:44 | <compaq> | **display |
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| 19:44 | <CMA> | cat music.wav > /dev/dsp 8-) |
| 19:44 | <lupine> | xrandr --size=1024x768 |
| 19:44 | <CMA> | " it eats your babies" :p |
| 19:44 | <lupine> | whoops, without the = |
| 19:44 | <lupine> | om nom nom |
| 19:45 | * | lupine is running lenny with a few bits from sid |
| 19:45 | <CMA> | Sysinfo for 'skuld': Linux 2.6.25.4 running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: VIASamuel2 at 796 MHz (1593 bogomips), , RAM: 242/250MB, 107 proc's, 2.3d up |
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| 19:45 | <compaq> | lupine, what about if you wanna change monitors? |
| 19:45 | * | CMA is running sid with a few bits from experimental |
| 19:46 | <lupine> | compaq: just do it and restart the X server, i'd gues |
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| 19:46 | <EagleScreen> | lupine, but, how to do it? |
| 19:46 | <compaq> | lupine, I see, of course, it will see on it own eh, and make adjustments. Awesome, its about time for that one I guess |
| 19:47 | <lupine> | EagleScreen: ctrl+alt+bkspace, of course |
| 19:47 | <CMA> | xmms-kde it's gone! |
| 19:47 | <CMA> | :'( |
| 19:47 | <lupine> | also, ZOMG. My new job (linux support engineer, mostly debian) starts in a week |
| 19:48 | <EagleScreen> | yes, i know Ctrl Alt Backspace for restart X, i mean how to use xrandr for change current or maximun resolution |
| 19:48 | <lupine> | xrandr --size <newresolutionhere> |
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| 19:48 | <EagleScreen> | oh ok thanks |
| 19:51 | <compaq> | lupine, I am gonna test your theory |
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| 19:52 | <EagleScreen> | yes, i have tested it now, i changed my resolution wit xrandr |
| 19:53 | <compaq> | EagleScreen, lets see the command you entered! |
| 19:54 | <EagleScreen> | her you have: sudo xrandr -s 1024x768 |
| 19:55 | <EagleScreen> | is it working for you compaq???? |
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| 19:56 | <lupine> | you don't need to sudo it |
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| 19:57 | <EagleScreen> | is not needed root permission for change resolution? |
| 19:57 | <lupine> | well, no. that would be silly |
| 19:57 | <CMA> | no |
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| 19:57 | <lupine> | also "xrandr" with no options gives you a list of available modes |
| 19:58 | <lupine> | 320x200 75.0 60.0 ... lol |
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| 19:58 | <CMA> | EagleScreen: if you are using the monitor with your user... |
| 19:58 | <lupine> | well, the X server is run as root (although there is work being done so you don't have to) |
| 19:59 | <lupine> | but the permissions are set so that normal users can change it |
| 20:00 | <EagleScreen> | yes, i see and i understand that is logical an user can chage resolution |
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| 20:00 | <EagleScreen> | is it possible also change Herzios? |
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| 20:01 | <EagleScreen> | i see it in man, i will test |
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| 20:02 | <EagleScreen> | yessss xrandr -r $Hz lol |
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| 20:03 | <clone> | sorry, the pwr went out here |
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| 20:03 | <clone> | clone is compaq |
| 20:03 | <clone> | I just changed my monitor and it didn't make any changes, it is running it as before, and it will kill it in no time at these rates |
| 20:03 | <EagleScreen> | clone/compaq what about your resolition? |
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| 20:04 | <EagleScreen> | but clone, what do you want to do, what do you mean with "change monitor"? |
| 20:04 | <EagleScreen> | do u have more than one monitor? |
| 20:05 | <clone> | EagleScreen, c'mon, unplug it, and plug another in |
| 20:05 | <EagleScreen> | unplug and plug the monitor? why doing it? |
| 20:05 | <clone> | EagleScreen, what if I set up a computer, and then sell it with out monitor, cause they already have one, or if I have a few monitors, and they select one |
| 20:06 | <EagleScreen> | yes, now i understand |
| 20:06 | <clone> | EagleScreen, what kinda questions are you asking, why...What if it breaks, or I buy a newer better one, I have re-install debian then? |
| 20:06 | <EagleScreen> | negative |
| 20:06 | <EagleScreen> | i hope for no!! |
| 20:06 | <clone> | hehe, me too |
| 20:07 | <EagleScreen> | lets see, you want change monitor and readjust resolution with new monitor? |
| 20:07 | <clone> | basically, we have to install old dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tool |
| 20:08 | <EagleScreen> | i hope for it to not be necessary |
| 20:08 | <EagleScreen> | do one thing: |
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| 20:09 | <EagleScreen> | unplug your monitor; plug new monitor; run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg perhaps it is non-interactive; restar X server; change resolution with xrandr |
| 20:10 | <clone> | it gives error with new monitor |
| 20:10 | <clone> | I think I am gonna go back to etch |
| 20:10 | <EagleScreen> | what gives error? |
| 20:10 | <EagleScreen> | and what error? |
| 20:11 | <clone> | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 20:11 | <EagleScreen> | what say that error? |
| 20:11 | <clone> | "This is a fake template used to pre-seed the debconf database. If you are seeing this, something is probably wrong. |
| 20:12 | <EagleScreen> | did u try first restart X and later run dpkg-reconfigure??? |
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| 20:20 | * | Bladesman wonders how close Lenny is to going stable. |
| 20:20 | <EagleScreen> | around september |
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| 20:21 | <clone> | I don't get it...so now for lenny, there is no monitor specific configurations |
| 20:21 | <Bladesman> | Kewl. Know if the 2.6/26 kernel will be included? |
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| 20:22 | <clone> | EagleScreen, Actually, I got the screen resolution changed using gnome, don't know why it didn't work before, only difference is I left it at 60hz this time though |
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| 20:22 | <EagleScreen> | Bladesman, i think it is not known, but i dude it, may be 2.6.25 |
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| 20:23 | * | Bladesman nods his thanks, waiting for the SpeakUP modules. |
| 20:23 | <clone> | 2.6.24 baby, finally, before I was using on 2.6.18 |
| 20:23 | <clone> | so how can I easy copy over files to my new pc? from my old pc, both debians |
| 20:24 | <EagleScreen> | clone, you must be sure that resolution and fequency you want to mix are compatible woth you monitor |
| 20:24 | <EagleScreen> | if you run xrandr without arguments, it shows a list of avalilable resolutions and frequency |
| 20:25 | <clone> | EagleScreen, I think maybe the net is slower in Lenny than in etch |
| 20:25 | <EagleScreen> | clone, i think, connecting bith by net |
| 20:25 | <EagleScreen> | both by net |
| 20:26 | <clone> | EagleScreen, actually, it was the refresh rate, I changed from 60 to 75 and it is fast again |
| 20:26 | * | Bladesman wonders if there's a special deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list for debian-accessibilityy. |
| 20:27 | <EagleScreen> | Bladesman i dont know |
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| 20:27 | <EagleScreen> | well done, clone |
| 20:28 | <sway_> | yo does anyone know why debian wont ping my host machine even though im pretty sure i configured the network correctly |
| 20:28 | * | Bladesman thinks there must be, as they keep announcing stuff that never appears in an apt-cache search. |
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| 20:29 | <compaq> | hey, in lenny, when you come back to a page, it still scrolls back from the last time |
| 20:31 | * | Bladesman downloads another 500+ packages for gnome-orca. |
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| 20:35 | <EagleScreen> | Compaq, finally what happen with your problem?? |
| 20:35 | <compaq> | I am also clone |
| 20:35 | <EagleScreen> | yes i know |
| 20:36 | <EagleScreen> | are you going to go back to Etch? |
| 20:36 | <compaq> | well, finally when I tried again to change screen resolution using gnome, it worked this time...so I guess problem solved. But I am still confused about monitor hardware issue |
| 20:36 | <EagleScreen> | or you solved the screen problem? |
| 20:36 | <compaq> | where can I see that my computer is using my hp monitor instead of the dell? |
| 20:37 | <EagleScreen> | let me think... |
| 20:37 | * | Bladesman guesses perl's still f'ed up as spamassassin can't find /usr/bin/perl |
| 20:38 | <compaq> | I would love to quickly copy files from my two debians |
| 20:38 | <compaq> | df -h |
| 20:38 | <dondelelcaro> | Bladesman: uh... if you don't have /usr/bin/perl, something is really wrong, since that's Essential: yes |
| 20:39 | <Bladesman> | Yes. |
| 20:39 | <dondelelcaro> | so reinstall perl-base |
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| 20:40 | <Bladesman> | It's still holding cpp after the dist-upgrade, but I'm not ready to compile kernels as yet. Will do....thanks. |
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| 20:41 | * | Bladesman grins, waiting for the X-Windows stuff to finish downloading. |
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| 20:41 | <compaq> | whats the best(EASIEST) way to copy some files over from my old pc to my new one |
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| 20:42 | <Bladesman> | Set up an FTP or NFS? |
| 20:42 | <compaq> | ok, I am gonna install ftpd |
| 20:44 | * | Bladesman would prolly do a 'dpkg -l > packages.list' and do an install of what's in the list and copy over the /etc dir. |
| 20:45 | <Bladesman> | Could prolly do it all with a floppy disk. |
| 20:45 | <clone> | Bladesman, is that for me? Well I just want some files, I am gonna install all new on this one, but that is cool |
| 20:46 | <clone> | Bladesman, Lenny has that new gui thing in gnome for add/remove programs, I am gonna try it out for this new machine |
| 20:46 | <Bladesman> | dpkg -l will give you a list of all the packages installed, and the etc dir will have the configs, but if the puters are different, hardware-wise... |
| 20:46 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching will give you a list of all the packages installed, and the etc dir will have the configs, but if the puters are different, hardware-wise... |
| 20:46 | <clone> | I did an ftp get on a file about 300mb I wish it had a progress br |
| 20:48 | <Bladesman> | Still beats setting up two copies of telix on MS-DOS... |
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| 20:49 | * | Bladesman wonders if uucp still would be viable. |
| 20:50 | * | Bladesman downloads dondelelcaro's brain. |
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| 20:52 | <compaq> | ftp is going at 1gigabyte/second |
| 20:53 | <Bladesman> | Yeah, rub it in, rub it in... |
| 20:53 | <compaq> | hehe, the computer are beside each other, across a hub |
| 20:54 | <nevyn> | surely a switch. |
| 20:54 | <compaq> | hub |
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| 20:55 | * | Bladesman just has an extra Dell Win-XP laptop he hasn't used for months. |
| 20:56 | <nevyn> | at 10 gigabits? |
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| 20:57 | <compaq> | 1gigabyte, so 40 or 80 gigabits |
| 20:57 | <compaq> | so 4 or 8 |
| 20:57 | * | Bladesman doesn't know what his USR router's rated for. |
| 20:57 | <compaq> | 8bits make a byte right? |
| 20:57 | <Bladesman> | Yep. |
| 20:58 | <thaycs> | hehehe. |
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| 20:58 | <Bladesman> | Forget if it's 16 or 32 for a word, tho. |
| 20:58 | <thaycs> | 32, I believe. |
| 20:59 | <thaycs> | but I might be mistaken. |
| 20:59 | <Bladesman> | We're both fired. |
| 20:59 | <compaq> | a word, that for MS programmer, Linux doesn't use words |
| 20:59 | <thaycs> | I meant letter. |
| 20:59 | <Bladesman> | What's a sentence? |
| 20:59 | <compaq> | There is no native string type, just the compiler defined |
| 21:00 | <compaq> | word, sentence paragraph novel, all strings |
| 21:00 | <thaycs> | it obviously depends on the amount of letters used. |
| 21:01 | * | Bladesman thinks 254 bit systems will be encyclopedias. |
| 21:01 | <compaq> | 256 |
| 21:01 | <Bladesman> | 256 even. |
| 21:02 | <compaq> | it always doubles, cause they add another bit, which doubles the combinations |
| 21:03 | * | Bladesman is hearing that M$ is gonna put software on a central fileserver and let people boot off that. |
| 21:03 | <compaq> | something like that, they add another something |
| 21:03 | <compaq> | I hate M$ |
| 21:03 | <compaq> | those bastards...they own a linux disto themselves |
| 21:04 | <Bladesman> | Then you'll be able to run Office on your cell phone. |
| 21:04 | <compaq> | I think they bought corel |
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| 21:05 | <compaq> | I don't get it, they charge so much for office, but cells already have calendars, and calculator, and that Word, google has one thats online, and its good for me |
| 21:05 | <Bladesman> | Rewinds me of that movie "Brazil" with the tiny computer screens with the big fresnel lenses. |
| 21:06 | * | Bladesman nukes a couple beef franks for 4 minutes. |
| 21:07 | <compaq> | You should have used the toaster oven, its better |
| 21:07 | <compaq> | microwaves are good for heating hot packs |
| 21:08 | <Bladesman> | Only getting about 12 amps out of this place's electrical system...instead of 50. |
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| 21:09 | <Bladesman> | AC just quits after the temp goes over 93F. |
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| 21:11 | <Bladesman> | (Stuck in a trailer park with, like, 7 trailers on one powerline) |
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| 21:13 | <Bladesman> | That, and I like my hotdogs to split open when cooked. |
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| 21:16 | * | Bladesman repeatedly burns his fingers for good measure. |
| 21:17 | <compaq> | yeah, there must be a way to configure monitors on Lenny, cause I just used etch, and I was able to configure the hp much better, I could chose 70hz instead of only 60 then 75, and the picture is better |
| 21:18 | <johns> | I have an old thinkpad running lenny with a USB2 cardbus card. If I plug my external ext3 usb drive into it and try to mount it, the mount command hangs and the filesystem gets corrupted |
| 21:18 | <johns> | mouning ro works normally, though |
| 21:18 | <johns> | I've tried two different cards (same chipset, one brand new), with the same results |
| 21:19 | <Bladesman> | Maybe use the vesa driver til it's figgered out? |
| 21:20 | <Bladesman> | bbl... |
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| 22:03 | <variable> | is there any app for chacking ram? |
| 22:03 | <nevyn> | memtest86 |
| 22:03 | <variable> | thanks |
| 22:03 | <Kerz> | check for memtest86+ its better |
| 22:04 | <Kerz> | supposedly |
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| 22:08 | <variable> | ok, I don't have a floppy drive, just dvd-r and usb 1.0 and don't have a flash ;/ so maby there is another tool for checking ram? |
| 22:09 | <gsimmons> | variable: You don't strictly need a floppy. memtest86/memtest86+ can also be started from your bootloader. |
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| 22:14 | <thaycs> | variable: or a boot cd. |
| 22:14 | <variable> | hmm well a pc which i'm using sometimes it turns off from no reason, so I think it could be problems with ram, isn't it? |
| 22:14 | <thaycs> | most boot cd's include a memtest86+ tool. |
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| 22:23 | <bjron> | is there an easy way to tell when a package was last updated? |
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| 22:28 | <engkeboy> | installed debian using 4hdds and used the first-one for the system.. i set the other 3hdds into use as raid.. i am not too familiar in using mdadm.. how can i mount it in the /? |
| 22:29 | <engkeboy> | when i execute "mdadm --detail /dev/md0" i see the Rebuild status: 55% |
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| 22:31 | <engkeboy> | also the 3hdds is 1tb.. and the equivalent of the size of my current active array is only one of my hdd.. i was thinking of using all the freespace of my 3tb.. how can i grow it into that? |
| 22:33 | <shze> | hi, i have a problem sending emails. i'm using kmail on debian testing, and my setup worked at my old place and at university, but at my new place i cannot send emails anymore (receiving works). |
| 22:34 | <shze> | doesnt work for two mailboxes, both imap. what wrong? |
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| 22:39 | <engkeboy> | anyone please? |
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| 22:50 | <Vampy_Bed_Away> | i'm tryin to install debian in VMWare Workstation in windows, i'm tryin to figure out what debian is based off so vmware will handle it properly.. any one help with that |
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| 22:51 | <abrotman> | it's based off .. debian |
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| 22:51 | <Vampy_Bed_Away> | what linux kernel |
| 22:52 | <Vampy_Bed_Away> | or would a redhat version work the same |
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| 22:55 | <abrotman> | VampyLearningLinux: how about you tell us why it won't install .. |
| 22:55 | * | benjamindees bets there isn't a slackware option |
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| 22:56 | <VampyLearningLinux> | i'm working on the install right now... settin up in windows VMWare Workstation to test it out. |
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| 22:58 | <VampyLearningLinux> | ok.. question during setup.. on partitioning.. what is teh best method of partitioning for a newbie |
| 22:59 | <abrotman> | do the auto bit .. i believe it just does a / and swap |
| 22:59 | <abrotman> | if you're just testing .. won't really matter in the end |
| 23:00 | <VampyLearningLinux> | so Guided - Use Entire Disk with out LVM is ok |
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| 23:01 | <abrotman> | !ig |
| 23:01 | <dpkg> | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 23:03 | <benjamindees> | VampyLearningLinux, yeah. I wonder how vmware handles swap... |
| 23:04 | <VampyLearningLinux> | i'm sure i'll learn that lol.. |
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| 23:37 | <engkeboy> | what was the reconstruction means in raid? |
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| 23:38 | <phase_shift> | hello all |
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| 23:41 | <IRcop> | sup |
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| 23:54 | <Cwe_2_smp> | iiii |
| 23:54 | <Cwe_2_smp> | hyyy |
| 23:54 | <newbie> | Hi, all. I try to make my sound card work but unlucky. After follow the instruction in http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-intel8x0m |
| 23:55 | <Cwe_2_smp> | hyyy |
| 23:55 | <Cwe_2_smp> | iiiii |
| 23:55 | <newbie> | here is the error |
| 23:55 | <newbie> | http://pastebin.ca/1048591 |
| 23:55 | <Cwe_2_smp> | hyyy |
| 23:55 | <newbie> | i don't know this is the right place to ask this question. Sorry |
| 23:56 | <Cwe_2_smp> | iii |
| 23:58 | <Nemoder> | newbie: I might be wrong but I think the alsa drivers in etch don't support that audio chip |
| 23:59 | <newbie> | before it works |
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| 23:59 | <newbie> | when i build new kernel |
| 23:59 | <newbie> | 2.6.25.6 |
| --- | Log | closed Mon Jun 16 00:00:07 2008 |