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00:18<whiskthecat>can anyone help me out with some screen issues on an old imac g3
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00:46<Core2Duo_>Could u please help me with directions to backup my data to a Windows XP Pro machine daily
00:46<Core2Duo_>I have Google to and from to no avail.
00:47<Core2Duo_>I know it has to do with rsync, and some local script running daily on the Windows machine, but that is just about all the theory I have.
00:47<Coldx>turn on windows xp option for backup
00:47<Core2Duo_>schedule a backup?
00:47<Coldx>turn it on auto
00:48<Coldx>restore points
00:48<Coldx>what kinda data?
00:48<Core2Duo_>I mean, backup my debian server data to a windows xp machine
00:48<Coldx>like files and shit?
00:48<Core2Duo_>...the home folder
00:49<Coldx>maybe able to find a app for it
00:49<Core2Duo_>sorry about the confusion. I have been thinking so hard I kinda lost my
00:49<Coldx>im on knoppix linux right now
00:49<Coldx>my xp machine is down
00:50<Core2Duo_>this is a debian channel, right?
00:50<Coldx>yeah apears to be so
00:51<Core2Duo_>This channel was my last choice to get help from
00:51<Core2Duo_>anyone here on a debian machine and has an xp machine?
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00:53<Core2Duo_>seems not
00:53<Core2Duo_>too bad
00:53<Core2Duo_>thanks Coldx
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00:53<Core2Duo_>I'll go back to Google
00:53<Coldx>im trying to format a permissioned hd
00:54<Core2Duo_>ohh, had Vista on it?
00:54<Core2Duo_>then u are
00:54<Coldx>old point of sale os
00:54<Core2Duo_>Hope all goes well.
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00:54<Core2Duo_>later then
00:54<Coldx>just gotta crack the damn perrmisssion
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00:55<wumpiss>--------------------MELODIC POPULAR MUSIC PRODUCERS----------------------
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01:13<gnub>That took care of it
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01:59<Mike>Does anyone know why the gnome login prompt sometimes shows taking up the fullscreen. Hitting esc does correct it. Just wondering what is causing it.
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02:00<waruteru>ok ! alguém aí ?
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02:10<chameleon>AIGLX + Compiz do i have to install plugins befor anything will work ?
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02:13<chameleon>anyone alive?
02:14<chameleon>Sa[i]nT can you help me pls
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02:14<Sa[i]nT>chameleon, If I can, sure.
02:14<chameleon>AIGLX + Compiz do i have to install plugins befor anything will work ?
02:15<Sa[i]nT>Well yeah, plugins -are- the effects.
02:15<chameleon>well iam haveing troble
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02:16<chameleon>i think i need to install a driver for my video card
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02:16<chameleon>i followed this right down to the
02:16<chameleon>tar zxvf CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_[date].tgz
02:16<chameleon>but it is not working for me
02:16<Sa[i]nT>Why are you not installing compiz through synaptic?
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02:17<chameleon>cuz i dont know what that is
02:18<chameleon>yes iam a noob trying to learn
02:18<Sa[i]nT>You on Debian, Gnome?
02:19<Sa[i]nT>Goto Desktop->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
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02:20<chameleon>got up
02:21<Sa[i]nT>Now click search.
02:21<Sa[i]nT>type in compiz
02:21<Sa[i]nT>press enter.
02:21<chameleon>it is installed
02:21<chameleon>i did that in consol
02:21<Sa[i]nT>Synaptic is a central hub for all your software and should always be consulted first.
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02:22<Sa[i]nT>plugins and all?
02:22<chameleon>i dont think plugins
02:22<chameleon>well the only thing on that list that is not installed is
02:24<Sa[i]nT>I don't know hardware man.
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02:24<chameleon>what is weird?
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02:33<chameleon>Sa[i]nT you back yet?
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02:38<MayskiyJuk> Hi is there any patch for Pidgin 2.3.1 from backports for Etch to use icq?
02:38<chameleon>i dont think anyone is awake
02:38<chameleon>but me
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02:42<chameleon>how can i find how how much ram my video card has ?
02:43<Supaplex>anything modern will autodetect
02:44<chameleon>ya but how do i find out ?
02:44<Supaplex>is it pci? isa?
02:44<chameleon>built in
02:44<jm_>read the X logfile
02:44<Supaplex>hwinfo or lspci might show it too
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02:47<arooni_____>but what specific license is debian?
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02:48<chameleon>ok where do i find the X logfile?
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02:48<cahoot>arooni_____: did you even bother to check the urls given to you earlier?
02:48<arooni_____>this isnt telling me what licenses debian uses overall
02:49<chameleon>is it not GNU?
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02:49<Supaplex>arooni_____: figure it out. you're smart enough. right?
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02:51<chameleon>ok where do i find the X logfile?
02:51<nevyn>arooni_____: that's because debian doesn't have an overall licence
02:51<chameleon>i even googled my video card and tell me nothen :(
02:51<Supaplex>chameleon: /var/log/X*
02:52<nevyn>the best that can be said is that all software in debian (main) provides what's specified in the DFSG
02:52<chameleon>bash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Permission denied
02:53<nevyn>chameleon: you need to be a member of adm or be root
02:53<Supaplex>chameleon: you can't run a log file. use a pager
02:53<nevyn>oh didn't notice he was attempting to run it.
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02:53<Supaplex>eg, less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
02:53<dpkg>methinks pager is a text viewer, like more, less, view, etc. apropos pager.
02:53<chameleon>and i am root
02:53<nevyn>chameleon: less or more are the standard choices for a pageer
02:53<Supaplex>!tell chameleon -about grounding
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02:55<chameleon>looks like iam going to get no where to night it is to late :(
02:56<Supaplex>chameleon: what's lspci -nn | grep -i vga show? ask dpkg about paste, if it's more than a line or two.
02:57<chameleon>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video [1106:3230] (rev 11)
02:58<Supaplex>lspci -s 01:00.0 -vv | grep -i size
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02:58<Supaplex>You can paste to =)
02:59<chameleon>you want me to past what it said ?
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03:00<shilow>anyone know how to fix the dep prob on pidgin in unstable?
03:01<chameleon>told me i cant run Compiz
03:01<Supaplex>shilow: what's bts say?
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03:01<Supaplex>chameleon: I don't think the card has 3d. does it?
03:01<nevyn>it does.
03:01<chameleon>iam sure it does
03:01<nevyn>but it's not great 3d
03:01<chameleon>but only 256 of ram
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03:02<nevyn>but enough for planetpenguinracer
03:02<chameleon>and compiz ia calling for 512
03:02<nevyn>bah wfm with 128
03:02<shilow>sorry went to check my dinner
03:02<shilow>what do you mean by bts?
03:03<chameleon>does compiz really need 512 of ram ?
03:03<Supaplex>shilow: it's for bugs. unstable is for devlopers. be prepared to consult bts if you ever question why an unstable package is not working to spec. /msg dpkg bts
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03:04<chameleon>The bare minimum is 3D capable Graphic’s card and atleast 512 MB of ram.
03:04<chameleon>ehat it told me on a web page
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03:04<shilow>it said to update to 2.4.3
03:04<shilow>but it's not in the list only 2.4.2
03:05<chameleon>but i also read on a next page that all i have to do is install new driver
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03:06<shilow>chameleon, do i just have to wait it out till its fixed if it's not in the ftp pool ?
03:06<shilow>i tried to ocmpile the package but it needs way too much stuff
03:06<chameleon>i dont know what your talking about dude sorry
03:06<shilow>thats what i get when i try to reinstall pidgin
03:07<shilow>its on bts but all it says is, please upgrade to 2.4.3
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03:07<chameleon>sorry dude i dont even know what pidgin is
03:07<chameleon>iam a noob
03:08<shilow>its gaim aka finch
03:08<Sa[i]nT>One word.
03:08*Supaplex <2
03:08<Supaplex>er. typo.
03:08<shilow>i guess i coudl use kopete till its fixed
03:08<Sa[i]nT>Pidjin's UI is too simplistic.
03:08*Supaplex <3's psi
03:08<Sa[i]nT>I use aMSN.
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03:09<shilow>kopete still handle all the same messengers
03:09<shilow>aim icq myspaceim yahoo ect?
03:10<chameleon>gaim i like
03:10<chameleon>but at moment i use aMSN
03:11<shilow>hmm not what i'm used to but not bad
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03:12<chameleon>ok well iam off for the night linux gives me a hed egg
03:12<chameleon>night guys and good luck on what ever your doing
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03:15<Sa[i]nT>linux gives him a "hed egg"?
03:16<Supaplex>head ache maybe
03:16<Supaplex>and bad spelling :)
03:17<Supaplex>sucks for him he makes a decesion based on one solitary piece of software.
03:17<Sa[i]nT>Well, I transfered from Ubuntu to Debian tonight.
03:17<Supaplex>moving up in the world eh? :)
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03:17<Sa[i]nT>Well, I figured I should use the father of linux, not one of it's children.
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03:18<Supaplex>wise move. you'll have to get use to the folks that think we're obligated to help all those offshoots as our own. *shrug*
03:19<suiside>Sa[i]nT: shouldn't you technically be using slackware then, isn't it the oldest distribution currently available =)
03:19*suiside hides
03:19<shilow>i liked slackware
03:19<Sa[i]nT>suiside, I stick with the .deb, the apt, and the synaptic. The perfect set I would think.
03:19<shilow>i just hated upgrading it
03:19<Sa[i]nT>I never played with slackware.
03:20<shilow>i used it for 3 years
03:20<shilow>then when asf video format came out
03:20<shilow>i spent so much time in windows
03:20<shilow>i forgot how to do anything from command line
03:20<Supaplex>slackware is like driving a car with no known part numbers or make/model years. you just hope the replacements fit when you order them, or you might be screwed. :P
03:20<shilow>pretty much
03:21<shilow>all i remember was the hell it took to go form libc to glibc
03:21<Supaplex>oh joy. those were the dayz.
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03:21<Sa[i]nT>I like debian's and it's children's ways of handling upgrades and problems.
03:21<shilow>as it sits now i've forgotten more than i know now
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03:22<shilow>i didn't even use X for the first 2 years i used linux
03:22<suiside>it's definately a hobbyis distro, if you like to tinker with software you'll like it, the downside of everyday use it you'll end up doing alot by hand, several times over and all the time
03:22<shilow>well you learn that way
03:22<Supaplex>I use x to run lotsa xterms at once, on two screens no less. :)
03:22<suiside>yes, for learning it's great
03:22*Supaplex ponders popping in the pci card for another screen
03:22<shilow>i spent too much time in windows so i'm an X junkie now
03:23<shilow>i spent all my time in a console and bitchx
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03:23<Supaplex>Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) -
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03:23<shilow>back when #linux@efnet dind't suck
03:23<cahoot>is this #confessions?
03:23<Sa[i]nT>Well now I am having trouble installing firefox, gahh.
03:23<Sa[i]nT>I think I am missing some repos here.
03:24<Sa[i]nT>Firefox tells me my GTK is out of date or whatnot.
03:24<cahoot>so you speak of ff3?
03:24<Sa[i]nT>I don't wish to use Iceweasel.
03:25<shilow>isn't it the same thing?
03:25<jm_>then we won't be able to help you
03:25<Sa[i]nT>I just installed Debian actually, over my ubuntu partition.
03:25<Sa[i]nT>I am learning how it works compared to what I am used to.
03:25<cahoot>well you've just been confronted with the sense of 'stable'
03:25<Supaplex>1) stable+older or 2) buggy+new. pick one.
03:26<shilow>i hope they have pidgin fixed by tomorrow
03:26<dpkg>hmm... siyh is Sooner If You Help. How?
03:27<Sa[i]nT>I do like the enviroment, tho.
03:27<Sa[i]nT>Smoother somehow.
03:27<shilow>what u use gnome or kde?
03:28<shilow>never tried that one
03:28<Sa[i]nT>Well I am installing Gnome right now.
03:28<Supaplex>fast as greased lightning
03:28<shilow>does it work with nautilis or whatever its called
03:29<shilow>i tried kde and hated it
03:29<shilow>felt like typing with 4 fingers
03:29<Sa[i]nT>KDE, I despise.
03:29<shilow>i second that
03:29<Sa[i]nT>Not smooth at all. It's like windows.
03:29<Sa[i]nT>gnome, I like. Feels like people created it for my eyes to look at, not machines.
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03:32<shilow>Supaplex, does openbox have a taskbar
03:32<shilow>or do you just rightclick to opena menu
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03:33<jm_>you can use pypanel with it for example
03:33<Supaplex>right click on the desktop. my .xinitrc has xsetroot -solid darkblue then exec /usr/bin/openbox
03:33<Supaplex>there's more crap in my .xinitrc, but you get the idea.
03:34<shilow>hmm might have to get that for when i play games
03:35<shilow>right now i just use gnome and switch off compiz
03:36<shilow>so far i like the screen shots good clean
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03:46<helps>help. I got this problem before but don't remember if I did anything special to resolve it. Connected 2 servers via a cat5 cable, configured eth1 ok, speed 1000 duplex full on both. Cannot ping one another.
03:46<helps>no fw.
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03:47<Supaplex>helps: does ifconfig show UP on that interface? are they in the same subnet?
03:47<helps>yes, and 2
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03:47<helps>ifconfig sees them, mii-tool says link is ok
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03:48<Supaplex>does arp show any entries?
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03:50<Supaplex>run arp as root. it should print some entries, and what it knows. you may have to run tcpdump on the interface to see if you get arp responses.
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03:51<helps>that's where it gets odd. Running tcpdump on both hosts, when logging on server B and trying to ping A, I get an arp reply on both dumps. When logging on A and pingin B I get nothing
03:52<Supaplex>any arp who-has packets when pinging B?
03:52<helps>no, nothing
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03:53<Supaplex>then host A thinks some other interface is a lower metric/longer or better match for the destination.
03:53<Supaplex>or at least, that's how it appears to behave
03:54<helps>route seems fine on A
03:54<helps> * U 0 0 0 eth1
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03:54<helps>the only one before it is 192.118.x.x which is a different network
03:54<helps>on eth0
03:55<Supaplex>.118 is on a different subnet anyway.
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03:56<Supaplex>eg, the subnet mask has a more exact match.
03:56<helps>routing seems ok
03:58<helps>one more thing, I got autoneg on and cannot turn it off. It's set on 1000 full but still ..
03:58<SlayerXP>autoneg is a requirement of gige
03:58<Supaplex>only in linux?
03:58<helps>both servers are linux, yes.
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03:59<Supaplex>autoneg is a requirement of gige only in linux?
03:59<Supaplex>eg, it's not a requirement of the standard, right?
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04:00<helps>Supaplex: I think that if you do not have a 4 pair crossover, autoneg tells you that you can use a regular cat5 for gige
04:00<SlayerXP>that is "No, you're wrong", it is a requirement
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04:02<helps>that's stange, ipconfig eth1 netmask - ip is fine. route is fine. link is fine, speed and duples match... what is it ?
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04:03<Supaplex>helps: when's the last time the hardware in question was known to work?
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04:03<helps>few days ago
04:04<Supaplex>are you running the same kernel?
04:04<helps>yeah. 2.6.9
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04:07<Supaplex>and people complain that etch is old. :) wow.
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04:08<helps>maybe it's my default route? at the bottom of the list?
04:08<helps>pointing to 192.118
04:09<Supaplex>default routes don't apply when a shorter(more exact) route applies.
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04:10<helps>yea.. ok
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04:13<Kate_MIns>Hello , i am trying to install package by the instructions, i got to step : "Add the ./scripts directory to your $PATH. " how i can do that ?
04:14<jm_>Kate_MIns: which package is that?
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04:15<Kate_MIns>jm_:samt (its part of nlp tools- its not in the synaptic ) the scripts directory location is : /home/kate/samt/scripts . but what does its mean to add to $path ? (i am new to ubuntu ) ?
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04:16<jm_>Kate_MIns: so you're not using Debian?
04:16<Kate_MIns>i am using Ubuntu
04:17<Supaplex>you're in the wrong castle. try #ubuntu or where ever they hide.
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04:17<Lounge>lol do i detect a little unix prejudice?
04:18<Supaplex>it's called staying on topic
04:19<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
04:19<Supaplex>and it's not prejudice if it's apathy, now is it? :)
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04:21<helps>Supaplex: any thoughts on that issue?
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04:21<Supaplex>helps: no ideas. a reboot might be interesting to see. it might not work, but what's the worst outcome? :)
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04:22<helps>reboot the server ? cannot be done, production.
04:22<Lounge>freenode has no ssl server that i'm aware of and its like...
04:22<Lounge>irc in clear text - not sure how i feel about that
04:23<helps>Lounge: why ? what gov' secrets and illegal passwds are you chatting about on irc ? :)
04:23<Lounge>none but - they say; if you have nothing to hide, hide it anyway
04:24<helps>I wouldn't take your word on it and avoid irc all together. sorry
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04:24<Lounge>since its there - we can use it, might as well
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04:24<helps>Supaplex: you think I should change net' cables ? link seems fine...
04:25<seanius>Lounge: esp since certain governments are now filtering/scannign all net traffic
04:26<helps>seanius: and looking for people with odd nicks like "Lounge" :)
04:26<seanius>looking for whatever they feel like, or just keeping it "on file" if they feel like it
04:26<Lounge>the'ye gonna find out that i lock all my disney avis in my secret partition & find out I sill have a crush on snow white :P
04:27<helps>Supaplex: you there mate ?
04:27<Supaplex>I think so
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04:28<Supaplex>so how much money do you lose if this server is down for the next day? Were you too cheap to buy some reliable nics?
04:28<helps>help me fix this and I'll get you unlimited access to Lounge's Disney vids :)
04:28<Lounge>i have a question about /dev/null what kinda of funny stuff can we do with it?
04:29<helps>Supaplex: the nics are perfect, it's an X3550 IBM server.
04:29<Supaplex>I just hope they're not realtek based. I've seen too many sad stories about their gigabit chipsets so far
04:29<helps>Interl PCI-E
04:29<Supaplex>humm, those should be more reliable. intel/3com based?
04:29<Supaplex>cool. I'd try a new cable next.
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04:34<dpkg>rumour has it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
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04:36<biblio>hola a todos
04:36<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
04:36<biblio>hi for everybody
04:37<biblio>or perhaps ...
04:37<helps>Supaplex: doesn't work :(
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04:38<Supaplex>helps: down the interface, and unload the module. maybe it'll clean up after it reloads.
04:38<Supaplex>at which point, you ifup the interface. :)
04:39<Supaplex>ifdown ethX ; modprobe -r foo ; modprobe foo ; ifup ethX
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04:39<Supaplex>anyways, zzZZzzz. oh, and use modinfo to see if there are driver level debug options.
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04:56<EmleyMoor>Is there a hylafax client in Debian that permits choice of modem?
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05:03<ghost_lines>hi all
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05:03<ghost_lines>i have a problem opening .asp pages in icewease, can anyone help me with this?
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05:05<jm_>asp is server side stuff
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05:18<EmleyMoor>Has there been a release update report recently?
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05:25<gizmokaka>Hi guys(and girls) :) I have a problem, when trying to run xsane as regular user i get the following error
05:25<gizmokaka>insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686/kernel/drivers/mfpportctrl/mfpport.ko': No such file or directory
05:25<gizmokaka>it seems to me as if i need to add the driver to the kernel and recompile though i am not sure since it works with root
05:25<gizmokaka>but thorwing a warning
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05:26<gizmokaka>and makes a mess in things
05:26<gizmokaka>also, if i do need to compile it, I have no idea how to add a driver to a kernel and compile it, and to tell the truth i am petrified of the mear thought of doing that
05:27<gizmokaka>read on the net a few articles but nothing seemed clear enough and all warned that system might not boot after that, and they guarentee nothing
05:27<gizmokaka>please HELP
05:28<gizmokaka>checked again, i get the same error when running as root, only it starts the application
05:29<jm_>you are obviously missing mfpport kernel module
05:30<gizmokaka>yep that is true
05:30<gizmokaka>thought it still works with root
05:31<gizmokaka>jm_: but i will be delighted to learn how to add driver and recompile kernel with guidence
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05:31<gizmokaka>didn't find the module in m-a
05:31<gizmokaka>after update
05:31<jm_>gizmokaka: can you also scan as root?
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05:32<gizmokaka>wow, this yellow on the name makes it very hard to read can i change the color?
05:32<dpkg>from memory, color is 5c9o3l11o6r
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05:33<jm_>ahh then it's probably about permissions
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05:35<gizmokaka>on what file
05:35<jm_>probably scanner device - figure out which one it is and check permissions
05:35<gizmokaka>OK checking
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05:37<gizmokaka>jm_: how do i check the permissions of an lsusb device i see?
05:37<jm_>gizmokaka: no, you need to know which device in /dev it's using, then ls -l
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05:38<themill>there's no module "mfpport" in the etchnhalf kernel
05:39<jm_>yeah it's some out of the tree stuff
05:39<jm_>provided by manfucaturer
05:40<jm_>wow some typo
05:40<gizmokaka>saw mfpports in the list under /dev
05:40<gizmokaka>what's that all about, and how do i know which device there is my scanner?
05:40<jm_>try readintg dmesg output after you plug it in
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05:44<gizmokaka>read it and found it, trying to add my user to the lp group with no luck
05:44<gizmokaka>give me a few more seconds
05:44<jm_>did you logout after doing that? or use sg/newgrp
05:45<gizmokaka>don't know sg/newgrp
05:46<jm_>then just logout and login again
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05:46<gizmokaka>can you please tell me how can i do that with out logging out?
05:46<gizmokaka>some things are running on my pc now
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06:40<disposable>how do i make 'cp' use a list of filenames i have in a separate file? i need to copy those files into a different directory. the list contains one filename per line.
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06:42<jm_>cp has no such option
06:42<themill>disposable: you can't. But rsync has a --files-from option that you should look at
06:42<jm_>or tar
06:43<themill>or script it... but then you've got to deal with spaces in file names...
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06:43<disposable>themill: there are no spaces. this_is_a_filename.wav only.
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06:44<disposable>themill: i simply can't do 'cp *.wav /directory' because the directory contains 210000 files. the list of files is 13MB long.
06:45<disposable>themill: and it's on ntfs partition mounted through ntfs-3g
06:47<themill>that's all much easier then
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06:48<themill>disposable: find . -name \*.wav -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t directory/
06:49<themill>actually, if you have no spaces in filenames, -print0 and -0 aren't necessary, but they are a good habit to get into...
06:49<jm_>shouldn't it be xargs ... < filelist?
06:49<jm_>he already has a list
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06:50<Nemoder>heh I was testing that but my list of files included color codes from ls, oops
06:50<disposable>themill: errr... so what should i type to use the list i have?
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06:51<jm_>that's due to poor choice of ls alias ;)
06:51<themill>disposable: xargs cp -t directory/ < filelist.txt
06:51<Nemoder>jm_: there is something better than --color ?
06:51<jm_>Nemoder: yeah --color=auto
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06:53<aloha-shin>Hi, I want to know how do I able to access the 2nd hard drive, my host did connect the 2nd hard drive but i dont know how do I access or browse that second hard, Im using lenny (fresh OS), pls reply
06:53<jm_>aloha-shin: cat /proc/partitions
06:53<Nemoder>jm_: cool, thanks :)
06:53<disposable>themill: thank you
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06:53<aloha-shin>Hi, I want to know how do I able to access the 2nd hard drive, my host did connect the 2nd hard drive but i dont know how do I access or browse that second hard drive, Im using lenny (fresh OS), pls reply
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06:54<aloha-shin>ok i saw it now but i dont know which one of this
06:56<jm_>aloha-shin: please ask here
06:56<themill>disposable: no worries. Note that the -t option for cp isn't standard unix but a gnu extension. Should you ever deal with some ancient unix, it might not work.
06:56<Nemoder>aloha-shin: you could use cfdisk or parted to browse partition types
06:56<aloha-shin>ok I already see the drives
06:56<aloha-shin>but i dont know how and whch of this
06:57<aloha-shin>pls tell what the command
06:57<aloha-shin>debian:~# cat /proc/partitions
06:57<aloha-shin>major minor #blocks name
06:57<aloha-shin> 8 0 78150744 sda
06:57<aloha-shin> 8 1 75497436 sda1
06:57<aloha-shin> 8 2 1 sda2
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06:57<themill>dpkg: tell aloha-shin about paste
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06:58<aloha-shin>ok wait
07:00<aloha-shin>ok here
07:00<aloha-shin>pls take a look JM
07:00<Nemoder>sda=serial drive, hda=parallel
07:01<jm_>wow partitions spanning one entire sector, how very useful
07:01<aloha-shin>pls explain im noob and still beginner at linux
07:01<jm_>mount it, that's about it
07:01<aloha-shin>what i need to browse the files inside the 2nd hdd
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07:01<aloha-shin>but i dont know how
07:02<Nemoder>aloha-shin: you can run cfdisk /dev/sda or cfdisk /dev/hda to figure out which is the partition you are looking for
07:03<aloha-shin>ok i will test it now
07:03<jm_>just type mount, see which one is currently mounted
07:03<jm_>second disk would be the one not mounted
07:03<aloha-shin>ok wait
07:04<aloha-shin>take a look
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07:04<Nemoder>so if sda is the original drive then hda is the new one
07:05<jm_>so either hda1 or hda5, more likely hda1
07:05<aloha-shin>meaning hda is the 2nd hdd connected?
07:06<Nemoder>it means hda is not the one you are currently running off of
07:07<aloha-shin>i dont get it
07:08<Nemoder>cfdisk /dev/hda should give you a breakdown of each partition type and size, as jm said the one with the data you are after is probably hda1
07:08<aloha-shin>how to access the 2nd disk
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07:10<aloha-shin>ok this is what i saw adter typing cfdisk /dev/hda
07:11<Nemoder>so: mkdir /mnt/newdrive; mount /dev/hda1 -t ext3 /mnt/newdrive
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07:11<aloha-shin>i think hda1 is the main
07:11<aloha-shin>i need the 2nd drive connected
07:11<aloha-shin>not the main hdd
07:12<aloha-shin>meain hda1 is the primary or main drive?
07:12<aloha-shin>then hda5 is the 2nd hdd?
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07:12<Nemoder>sda is primary, hda is the other one
07:13<aloha-shin>ok i got it
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07:13<aloha-shin>ok i will exit this cfdisk and enter what you said
07:14<Nemoder>er in case the order matters: mkdir /mnt/newdrive; mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/newdrive
07:14<aloha-shin>what do u mean?
07:14<Nemoder>I typed the options for mount in a weird order the first time
07:15<aloha-shin>ok wil now try what u said
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07:18<aloha-shin>nothing happen?
07:18<Nemoder>ls /mnt/newdrive
07:18<aloha-shin>debian:~# mkdir /mnt/newdrive; mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/newdrive
07:18<aloha-shin>debian:~# mkdir /mnt/newdrive; mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/newdrive
07:18<aloha-shin>debian:~# ls -l
07:18<aloha-shin>total 0
07:19<Nemoder>perhaps the drive is empty?
07:19<jm_>he didn't cd there ;)
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07:19<Nemoder>ah yes
07:19<Nemoder>so the new drive you added was an old linux install?
07:20<aloha-shin>its same debian lenny
07:20<aloha-shin>how do I access the old home folder
07:20<aloha-shin>because our backup is there
07:20<Nemoder>cd /mnt/newdrive/home/
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07:24<aloha-shin>Im trying to copy the file but why it says no such file or directory here look
07:24<aloha-shin>Im trying to copy the file fromt he 2nd hdd but why it says no such file or directory here look
07:25<Nemoder>I think your destination folder does not exist
07:25<Nemoder>try: mkdir /home/backup
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07:26<aloha-shin>debian:~# cd /home/backup
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08:21<Woet>I got a file of 500 mb, which is quite big
08:21<Woet>is it possible to take for example, the last 5000 lines
08:21<Woet>and put it in a seperate file
08:21<Woet>using a linux command?
08:22<jm_>yup, man tail
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08:31<hlfshell>So i have quite a bit of wireless woes and I've tried many a tutorial and asked many a people here. Can anyone take the time to help me get my wifi adapter up and running?
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08:32<gsimmons>hlfshell: Hi there. Still having issues with connecting to your WPA network?
08:33<hlfshell>hey gsimmons - yes, nothing is working with wifi, and i spent all of yesterday working onit
08:33<hlfshell>ifconfig -a shows eth1, my supposed wifi usb adapter
08:33<hlfshell>ifconfig -v does not
08:34<hlfshell>this explains iwlist scanning reporting that eth1 "Interface doesn't support scanning: No such device"
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08:35<gsimmons>hlfshell: That is consistent behaviour if your eth1 interface is down. Are you still using your USB wireless device (IoGear) and the zd1211rw driver?
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08:35<hlfshell>yes, those are unchanged since we last spoke
08:36<soleil>the console text is way too big now, how do i install different schemes? i believe i need vesafb or something
08:36<jm_>soleil: man consolechars
08:37<gsimmons>hlfshell: Are you attempting to connect to a WPA which has its SSID hidden? (ie. not broadcast)
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08:37<hlfshell>by this, do you mean it does not let computers know its there? because laptops can see it fine - it is a quasi public (at least to students and faculty) wireless connection
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08:39<gsimmons>hlfshell: Sounds like it is being broadcast. When convenient, please provide the contents of your current /etc/network/interfaces file, your wpa_supplicant.conf file (with the passphrases removed) and the output received for ifup -v eth1, at a paste site.
08:39<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
08:40<hlfshell>sure one sec
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08:44<hlfshell>any idea?
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08:44<gsimmons>hlfshell: Uh, there's two bits missing: your wpa_supplicant.conf file and the ifup -v output.
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08:44<dak>fucking bs
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08:46<hlfshell>oops. ill do those now
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08:48<soleil>jm_: and where do i get the screen-fontmaps?
08:48<hlfshell>there you are gsimmons
08:48<gsimmons>hlfshell: Thanks, I'll take a look at it.
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08:49<hlfshell>ty gsimmons
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08:50<jm_>soleil: console-data package has a lot of fonts
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08:53<soleil>jm_: is that something i can install with apt-get?
08:54<dishwasher>hi. i need install package upgrades on remote machines unattended, and will need to deal with debconf. how can this be achieved? is there a good doc?
08:57<dishwasher>my intention is to provide the answers that debconf would ask the user for in advance
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08:59<jm_>soleil: you probably have it installed already
08:59<dishwasher>also, what can be done about package snot using debconf (and are there any that would actually matter)
08:59<jm_>dishwasher: are you using apt 0.5 or greater?
09:00<dishwasher>jm_, etch, so i guess yes
09:00<hlfshell>any lucky gsimmons ?
09:01<soleil>jm_: so how do i go about using it then?
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09:02<Laeborg>fx3719:~# mount /hdd3/ELiTEBoX /home/seedbox/downloads
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09:02<Laeborg>how does I mount /hdd3/ELiTEBoX into /home/seedbox/downloads ?
09:03<ian> #debian-qt-kde
09:03<gsimmons>hlfshell: I'm wondering if any of your ifup paste has been truncated, specifically line 84. I don't believe "t" is a valid value to wpa_supplicant's -i option.
09:04<jm_>soleil: with consolechars command or specify the default in /etc/console* (whichever is used these days)
09:04<jm_>dishwasher: man 7 debconf, section "Preconfiguring packages"
09:05<makke>Laeborg: with --bind
09:05<Laeborg>mount --bind ?
09:06<soleil>jm_: in /etc/console/ there is a boottime.kmap.gz
09:06<soleil>is that the file i have to edit?
09:06<jm_>soleil: no
09:07<jm_>soleil: /etc/console-tools/config and also /etc/console-tools/config.d
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09:09<dishwasher>thanks jm_
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09:11<jm_>dishwasher: np
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09:11<soleil>jm_: ro load a screenfontmap i'd have to consolechars-u --sfm --screen-font-map=file
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09:11<soleil>so where are the console fontmaps located?
09:12<jm_>soleil: try just -f first
09:12<jm_>sfm files are in /usr/share/consoletrans dir
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09:14<hlfshell>so you want me to repaste ifup's stuff gsimmons ? one sec
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09:15<gsimmons>hlfshell: If you could. Some output from dmesg (after a recent ifup) would also assist.
09:15<hlfshell>dmesg | tail right?
09:16<gsimmons>hlfshell: That's right. I was expecting some messages relating to SoftMAC, as featured in your previous pastes from a few days ago.
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09:20<hlfshell>i dont think that T is truncated
09:21<MiaMoglieBea>is there italian people here?
09:21<dpkg>from memory, ita is Intend To Adopt, the sort of bug you file when you're intending to adopt a package.
09:21<hlfshell>theres an itallian debian channel
09:22<gsimmons>hlfshell: Looks to have been truncated again. Look at lines 8, 11, 30 and 33.
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09:22<dpkg>rumour has it, #debian-it is Ciao! Utilizzi prego #debian-it per aiuto Italiano-orientato. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
09:22<MiaMoglieBea>thank you
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09:22<hlfshell>yah i see it - but my console wont let me see any more than that.... hmmm what to do gsimmons?
09:22<hlfshell>i supersized my console and ran ifup eth1 -v again
09:23<hlfshell>that should be fixed
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09:25<hlfshell>is that better gsimmons
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09:28<gsimmons>hlfshell: Much better. Try removing the "wireless-essid" line from your /e/n/i file, then try your ifup command again. It shouldn't be necessary for wpa_supplicant usage.
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09:30<hlfshell>same thing
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09:35<gsimmons>hlfshell: Do you have other (eg. wired) connectivity on your host? You may want to try using dhclient3 (provided by installing the 'dhcp3-client' package) instead of pump as your DHCP client.
09:35<hlfshell>yes, i have an ethernet connection for this board.
09:35<hlfshell>im apt-getting dhcp3-client
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09:40<hlfshell>ok installed. do i just run dhclient3 eth1 or something?
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09:40<gsimmons>hlfshell: Just run your ifup command as before.
09:41<hlfshell>hmmm looks like its not working. one sec, ill paste it
09:44<hlfshell>there u go, gsimmons
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09:46<gsimmons>hlfshell: You've truncated the output again, but it isn't relevant right now. Please also provide your recent dmesg output.
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09:49<cahoot>gsimmons: could it be a typo here? -D wet (line 13 on the former paste)
09:50<hlfshell>what should it be?
09:50<gsimmons>cahoot: Ah, a truncated paste is provided. The line itself is much longer, which hlfshell as previously provided in a couple of pastes back.
09:50<gsimmons>s/as previously/has previously/
09:51<cahoot>I see - sorry
09:51<gsimmons>cahoot: np
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09:52<hlfshell>ive been working on this wifi problems for days now. its starting to get really annoying :-/. The real trouble is that this has to be all command line since I can't run a GUI on this machine
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09:52<gizmokaka>can anyone help me please? i can't run xsane as regular user
09:53<gizmokaka>keep receiving the following error:
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09:53<cahoot>add youselt to scanner group
09:53<stew>gizmokaka: add your user to the scanner group, logout and log back in
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09:53<gizmokaka>ERROR: setuid failed: Operation not permitted
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09:53<gizmokaka>yes, already did that
09:53<gizmokaka>didn't help
09:54<cahoot>groups <user> confirms membership?
09:54<gizmokaka>yep, it's in the group for the scanner
09:54<gizmokaka>it's not called scanner it's called lp
09:54<cahoot>is this a multipurpose device?
09:55<cahoot>might need be in lp too?
09:55<gizmokaka>it's a printer scanner fax machine
09:55<gizmokaka>i am in lp
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09:55<cahoot>no further ideas
09:55<gsimmons>hlfshell: Turn on wpa_supplicant's debugging and provide its output at a pastebin. Execute: ifconfig eth1 up && wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i eth1 -d This will start wpa_supplicant in the foreground (instead of as a daemon). Use CTRL-C to break out of it when you're done.
09:55<gizmokaka>should i be in some other group as well?
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09:57<cahoot>gizmokaka: might see what groups/perms the udev rule for the device sets
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09:58<hlfshell>one sec gots to reboot the board
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09:59<hlfshell>hmmmmm dhcpdiscover keeps trying to work on bootup. not good it slows down my boot up a lot.... one sec while this thing tries to go through its boot sequence
09:59<gizmokaka>cahoot: how do i see the udev rules?
10:00<cahoot>gizmokaka: look around in /etc/udev/rules.d
10:00<hlfshell>ok running gsimmons
10:01<hlfshell>LOTS of stuff beign printed
10:01<hlfshell>how long do i let this run?
10:01<gsimmons>hlfshell: You can comment the "auto eth1" in your /e/n/i to prevent this, at least until this can be resolved for you.
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10:02<gsimmons>hlfshell: About a minute should be plenty.
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10:02<hlfshell>ok ill let it run a bit longer than
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10:03<hlfshell>uhoh - i lost some stuff to buffer - idont have the beginning of what was outputted during that command. does that matter?
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10:05<sohmestra>if I'm running testing, and want to be able to easily install sid packages when I like, how would I configure apt?
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10:06<sohmestra>I have some idea that there is some apt.conf directive which lets one specify the default branch, but I can't seem to find it in the docs.
10:07<Kasperl>I am looking for help on a dual-boot system. I'm trying to use ClamAV to disinfect a windows partition on this system, but the GUI will detect some files, but can't move/recycle them (it doesn't do anything, but doesn't error either), and the CLI will leave qutie a few files the GUI calls virusses
10:07<sohmestra>marvin, thanks
10:07<Kasperl>The Windows partition is pretty bad, Trend Micro gave up already
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10:07<Kasperl>The problem seems me missing some option in clamscan, but the manual doesn't give me any hints either
10:08<marvin>Kasperl: you do have write permision on the windows drive?
10:08<hlfshell>gsimmons, ?
10:08<Kasperl>Yes, the CLI will move files
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10:09<Kasperl>I'm moving them to the linux partition
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10:10<marvin>but can you write on windows partition?
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10:10<Kjetil>what kind of filesystem is the windows partition ?
10:11<sheldonh>debian is the shit. two days of r&d and we have a full-blown redundant live-replicated nas that weighs in at a third of the price of a vastly inferior entry level solution from adaptec. _and_ it'll probably work out as a san (still testing)
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10:12<hlfshell>live-replicated NAS? whats that?
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10:15<gizomkaka>cahoot, logged out and back in after checking i am in lp and scanner groups
10:15<gizomkaka>didn't quite understand the hole rules thing
10:16<gizomkaka>i am lost here, i have to scan something, and it's frustrating
10:16<gsimmons>hlfshell: It looks interesting, but the full output would assist. I'll assume that eth1 is still up, save wpa_supplicant's debug output to a file: wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i eth1 -d >debug.log , then upload debug.log to a paste site such as Depending on your current environment, you could also use a pastebin pipe (/msg dpkg pastebin pipe).
10:16<dpkg>i heard nas is a network audio system, a lot like esound with special features, like a module wich can hijack your /dev/dsp on clients. (libaudiooss/ Network Attached Storage
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10:18<valdyn>hlfshell: he has the system two times at least and both systems replicate so that they both look identically all the time
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10:19<hlfshell>how do i grab the whole debug.log file for the paste site? if i cat it its too big, if i nano it i cant select everything
10:19<valdyn>!shell paste
10:19<hlfshell>can i dump the log file onto an upload site or something?
10:19<valdyn>!paste from shell
10:19<dpkg>from shell: put your output on so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel.
10:20<sheldonh>hlfshell: two boxes using linux HA to manage a) a DRBD device that's exported by b) NFS
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10:20<hlfshell>yah i know about paste sites, but im saying that i cant see al the stuff to copy it effectively
10:20<hlfshell>thanks sheldonh
10:20<valdyn>hlfshell: theres a browse button on that site, you can upload files
10:20<hlfshell>oooh ok
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10:21<sheldonh>hlfshell: we've been ripping the power out of the NFS server, and it's a beautiful thing to watch the backup take over, with only a pause on the clients :)
10:22<hlfshell>thats pretty cool.
10:22<sheldonh>hlfshell: if the primary said it was written to disk, the secondary has it when it takes over. drbd in action. unless you want to play the performance vs risk game, and use async nfs :)
10:22<hlfshell>im trying to use debian to build a modular robotics research base.
10:22<hlfshell>(arm processor running debian)
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10:22<sheldonh>that sounds like even more fun :)
10:22<hlfshell>oh it is :-)
10:22<hlfshell>yay science
10:23<hlfshell>unfortunately i am not linux inclinced and have given myself a crash course over the past few days
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10:24<sheldonh>hlfshell: and wireless connectivity isn't the easiest place to start
10:24<hlfshell>yah but its kinda crucial if i want the robot to remain in contact and not be wired to home
10:24<sheldonh>hlfshell: i'm surprised to see you're using /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf instead of /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf. does wpasupplicant on debian support either or?
10:25<hlfshell>/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf does not exist sheldonh.
10:25<gsimmons>sheldonh: AFAICT, Debian doesn't provide a stock wpa_supplicant.conf within /etc (though it does provide examples in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant). It's user-supplied.
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10:26<themill>AIUI, the idea is now to put this stuff into /etc/network/interfaces.
10:27<hlfshell>any new ideas gsimmons ?
10:27<valdyn>hlfshell: man interfaces, man wireless, put everything in /etc/network/interfaces, dont ever call wpusupplicant directly, interfaces are brought up/down with ifup / ifdown
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10:28<gsimmons>themill: Sure, but not with the number of parameters need to enable WPA-EAP usage, as what hlfshell is using. Use of an external configuration file is supported via "wpa-conf foo" in /e/n/i.
10:29<sheldonh>gsimmons: interesting. i've forgotten, having cut over to network-manager some time ago :)
10:29<themill>gsimmons: indeed. Sticking it all in /e/n/i is only good for basic usage.
10:29<sheldonh>hlfshell: i reckon valdyn's advice makes a lot of sense on a robot
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10:32<aloha-shin>JM thanks its working now
10:32<aloha-shin>I can browse the 2nd drive
10:32<aloha-shin>but after rebooting the server
10:32<hlfshell>well ive already read through those mans like twice now :-). And yes, since this is for a univeristy with WPA Enterprise encrypted wireless it has to be ready to work with that network out of the box persay. sooo hence my troubles.
10:32<aloha-shin>the folder is gone
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10:33<sheldonh>hlfshell: i'm surprised wireless(7) isn't grooving your plumes :(
10:34<hlfshell>hmmm havent seen this before.... ill read it through qq_ , thanks
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10:36<hlfshell>holy crap!
10:36<hlfshell>i think i got something
10:37<hlfshell>hold up i changed some permissions on a certificate file
10:37<hlfshell>ifconfig eth1 up didnt complain
10:38<hlfshell>and then iwlist scanning actually returned crap for once
10:38<hlfshell>how do i tell it to connect ot a specifici network and/or check to see if its already connected?
10:40<hlfshell>and to confirm its wirelessly connected to something?
10:41<hlfshell>oh... it seems it sees it but isnt connected. hmmm
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10:43<marvin>if it's connected iwconfig will tell you essid it's connected to and link quality > 0
10:43<hlfshell>yah it says link quality 0
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10:44<hlfshell>so i have eth1 up and running now... now to get it to actually connect to the board.....
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10:49<hlfshell>be back in a bit - meeting
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10:49<dishwasher>so, i work for a company which uses debian on appliances they sell, i.e. they sell computers with debian etch and some proprietary deb's preinstalled. all these appliances use the same debian configuration. now they want to introduce automatic updates of these appliances. i since learnt this can be achieved using debconf preseeding.
10:50<dishwasher>so i'm wondering: what's a good strategy to pass security updates to the appliances, but only after we have created the preseed files so there will be no debconf questions on those appliances?
10:51<dishwasher>also, how to distribute the preseed files?
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11:29<Martinn>hi if i want debian + graphic mode desktop, how many dvds do i have to install ? :D
11:30<gizmokaka>small reexplaining of the problem i am having and steps already taken
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11:30<gizmokaka>can't run xsane with regular user of mine only with root
11:30<Supaplex>!tell Martinn -about netinst
11:31<gizmokaka>i added the user to lp and scanner groups, logged out and back in
11:31<gizmokaka>then i added it to the root group, yet nothing
11:31<gizmokaka>it's like something with my user is wrong
11:32<gizmokaka>i am using kernel 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
11:32<cahoot>gizmokaka:did you see what groups/perms the udev rule for the device sets
11:34<gizmokaka>i am sorry but i don't understand this udeb.rules file
11:34<gizmokaka>where do i see the groups/perms on the device
11:34<gizmokaka>where do i search for the relevant info?
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11:35<cahoot>gizmokaka: is it an usb thing?
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11:36<masterfreek64>Are all daemon users in the group daemon ? ( which , important ones, are notn in default setup)
11:36<gizmokaka>it doesn't seem like it's in the list
11:37<gizmokaka>SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", KERNEL=="lp[0-9]*",NAME="usb/%k"
11:37<gizmokaka>i have this line
11:37<gizmokaka>that's it inside the udeb.rules file
11:37<gizmokaka>and in ls on /etc/udev/rules.d
11:37<cahoot>gizmokaka: does lsusb show the device? what usb-id?
11:38<gizmokaka>i don't file any file with lp or scanner in it
11:38<cahoot>gizmokaka: what usb-id?
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11:38<gizmokaka>usb-id: BUS 002 Device 003
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11:39<gizmokaka> ID 04e8:3419
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11:39<gsimmons>masterfreek64: See /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.gz
11:40<gizmokaka>cahoot: anything?
11:40<cahoot> rgrep 04e8:3419 /etc/udev/rules.d - nothing returned?
11:41<gizmokaka>nothing returned
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11:43<cahoot>04E8:3419=Samsung SCX-4x21 Series - right?
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11:43<gizmokaka>yep, a known issue?
11:44<gizmokaka>it worked for me before
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11:44<cahoot>before what?
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11:44<gizmokaka>nothing specific, a few days ago
11:45<dobian>dobi :0
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11:45<gizmokaka>accept maybe chmod to /usr back to root ?????
11:46<cahoot>you've chmodded /usr at some stage?
11:47<gizmokaka>yep, i had something from work that needed that, it was a stupid move, could have bypassed that
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11:47<gizmokaka>but i am fairly new to linux, loving it, but not very good yet and made a fulish move i guess
11:47<cahoot>suicidal I'd say
11:47<gizmokaka>but it can't be that bad that it is unrecovable
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11:48<gizmokaka>well you thing that is the cause? maybe if i remove the user from the system and recreate it, it will be fine?
11:48<gizmokaka>every thing else works fine
11:49<sam_affable>hey i installed tomcat5.5 on my debian etch ..install went smooth no error but it didnt create startup script in /etc/init.d i dont see /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5
11:49<cahoot>if you've chmodded /usr recursively at some stage - I don't believ anything less than reinstall is the remedy
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11:49<sam_affable>also i dont see tomcat-users.xml in /var/lib/tomcat5.5/conf
11:50<gizmokaka>fuck me side ways are you serious??????????????
11:50<sam_affable>anyone having/had this problem ??
11:50<gizmokaka>can i reinstall without formatting some kind of repair install
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11:52<gizmokaka>cahoot, ?
11:52<stew>if the chmod was ONLY /usr it might not be so bad. there are few non-root owned files. the binaries that are sgid should have their group id changed or should hvae their sgid bit removed
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11:52<stew>and, of course, special attention should be paid to any suid files that might be there
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11:53<neko>hi people
11:53<gizmokaka>stew: thanks, so you say i should change the group uid for sgid binaries
11:53<gizmokaka>and what about suid?
11:53<sam_affable>debian etch+tomcat5.5 anyone ??
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11:55<stew>gizmokaka: yes, but you'd need to know what the gid should have been. i'd recommend manually auditing all suid binaries
11:55<stew>gizmokaka: /usr/bin/at comes to mind which should be daemon:daemon owned
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11:56<stew>!find init.d/tomcat5.5 etch
11:56<gizmokaka>don't understand, you say i should manually change guid to suid?
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11:57<stew>gizmokaka: no, i'm saying that if a binary is sgid or suid, you should check to see if they really should be sgid root or suid root
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11:58<_mihkel_>Hi. I've created a link in Openoffice Calc, but when I click it nothing happens
11:58<_mihkel_>Any idea?
11:58<_mihkel_>Debian Lenny
11:58<gizmokaka>stew: oh, thanks man i will
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11:58<dpkg>Debian Search of 'init.d/tomcat5.5' (1): (/etc/init.d/tomcat5.5) in web/tomcat5.5.
11:59<sterling2>Can somebody help me
11:59<gsimmons>!tell sterling2 -about ask
11:59<sam_affable>stew: tomcat5.5 install went smooth without any error but dono for some reason it didnt create startup script in init.d dir ..also i dont see tomcat-users.xml in /var/lib/tomcat5.5/conf/
11:59<sterling2>is gsimoons a bot?
11:59<stew>sam_affable: so the tomcat5.5 package DOES provide /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5, if you don't have one, its likely becuase you removed it; /msg dpkg confmiss
12:00<gsimmons>sterling2: No. Just state your problem.
12:00<sterling2>okay, I am running debian 4.0 rc3
12:01<sterling2>for c++ programming purposes I installed wx-widgets to build a graphical library, called ICE
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12:01<sterling2>therefore I downloaded wx-widgets GTK+, configured and installed
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12:02<sterling2>after building my library and compiling my little programs, I cannot execute them
12:02<stew>sterling2: why can't you?
12:02<sterling2>one moment
12:02<sterling2>I give you the output
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12:02<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
12:03<sterling2>the reason is most probably a wrong variable or an outdated so-library
12:03<sterling2>error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
12:03<sam_affable>stew: hey thnx that helped me ..i deleted all files and thought reinstalling tomcat5.5 again will reinstall startup scripts too...nyways thnx for the info
12:04<stew>sam_affable: yeah, dpkg would assume you deleted the init script for good reason and not second guess you
12:05<sterling2>looking into synaptic packet manager, I found, that only libwxgtk2.6-0 is installed
12:05<sterling2>so this is problem my problem
12:06<neko>arg i do not succeed installing the php imagick stuff for debian etch :(
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12:06<sterling2>when installing wx-widgets, it told me to load configuration via ldconfig
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12:07<sterling2>I did that, but probably a variable was set/linked with the wrong version?
12:07<sterling2>please try to help
12:07<sterling2>and by the way, I installed the latest release of wx-widgets from their website
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12:11<sterling2>sorry, but if you have no idea, how to fix this problem, please let me know
12:11<Laeborg>any java package for iceweasel?
12:14<themill>dpkg: tell Laeborg about install java
12:15<themill>sterling2: please keep it in the channel
12:15<sterling2>okay, sorry
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12:18<Laeborg>E: Kunne ikke opnå låsen /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resursen midlertidig utilgængelig)
12:18<Laeborg>E: Kunne ikke låse katalog med lister ... er du root?
12:18<Laeborg>what does it means?
12:18<themill>Laeborg: are you root?
12:19<themill>sterling2: wx2.8 has only just been uploaded into sid. If you really need to compile things using wx2.8 under etch, then you can look at the packages from the wx website itself, but realise that any problems you have with them should go to them not to us...
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12:20<cahoot>Laeborg: another aptitude/apt-get/synaptic process running?
12:20<themill>well that'll do it...
12:21<themill>Laeborg: If you run things with LANG=C in front of them, we'll get English error messages so I won't have to go and find out what error 11 is.... (13 is that you weren't root...)
12:21<themill>Laeborg: My Danish isn't that good...
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12:23<Laeborg>how does I change the languages of debian?
12:23<Laeborg>i want english instead of danish
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12:24<dpkg>Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time.
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12:24<Laeborg>what should i pick in there?
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12:25<themill>Laeborg: I use en_GB.UTF-8
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12:25<Laeborg>ar_EG ISO8859-6 ?
12:25<sterling2>@themill Thank you.
12:25<sterling2>I have to leave now
12:25<Laeborg>okay, and that doesn't change the language of my keyboard?
12:25<sterling2>and what is sid?
12:25<themill>dpkg: tell sterling2 about sid
12:26<fxiny>and his uglyness scud :P
12:26<themill>Laeborg: no, kb layout is separate
12:26<sterling2>okay, thanks
12:26<Laeborg>okay :)
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12:27<Laeborg>well my debian is staill danish
12:27<themill>Laeborg: the environment is set at login time. It's possible that you've also set it manually in other places like in your KDE or gnome prefs.
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12:41<random2>hi all
12:42<random2>i had a problem with my netstat
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12:42<random2>rndm:~# netstat -p
12:42<random2>tcp 0 0 156.227.189.stati:41160 ppp78-37-218-138.:62226 TIME_WAIT -
12:42<random2>PID is blank
12:42<novizio>somebody from Buenos Aires?
12:42<novizio>Somebody from Argentina?
12:42<random2>somebody can help me?
12:43<chattr>apt-listbugs today returns Fail: with the following error message: W: invalid date. Network is up, is there a problem today withe the BTS ?
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13:01<VTommy>hey guys
13:02<VTommy>got a problem to install debian with a promise tx4310 anyone can help?
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13:02<VTommy>in raid 5 mode not detected in debian, just showing has SCSI disk 0,1,2
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13:13<sam_affable>hey i did aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall tomcat5.5; to fix tomcat config error and it said it reinstalled config files but when i do /etc/ini.t/tomcat5.5 start it says Starting Tomcat servlet engine: tomcat5.5. but i can see see tomcat page in the browser
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13:20<VTommy>anyone can help with problem i have to install debian with raid card promise tx4310
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13:24<rmf>How do i change my default app for nautilus? I've changed it to a script to print oo docs etc, and now thats the default & i can't get it back to open the doc! --- most frustrating!!
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13:34<gsimmons>sam_affable: You'll also need to install the 'tomcat5.5-webapps' package and browse to http://yourserver:8180/ in order to test your installation. See also /usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5/README.Debian.
13:36<Laeborg>laeborg-serv:/home/laeborg/downloads# rpm -iv jre-6u6-linux-i586.rpm
13:36<Laeborg>-su: rpm: command not found
13:36<fxiny>Laeborg: why rpm ?
13:36<sam_affable>gsimmons: i installed tomcat5.5-admin and webapps and when i start tomcat5.5 it says Starting Tomcat servlet engine: tomcat5.5 and when i stop tomcat5.5 it says Stopping Tomcat servlet engine: tomcat5.5 (not running)
13:37<fxiny>Laeborg: running etch ?
13:37<Laeborg>yes fxiny
13:37<fxiny>Laeborg: so if you want jre6 add bpo to your sources
13:37<Laeborg>source.list or ?
13:37<dpkg> is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update
13:37<Laeborg>bp = backportst ?
13:38<stew>Laeborg: and note that sun java is in non-free
13:40<Laeborg>E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
13:40<Laeborg>E: Unable to lock the list directory
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13:41<gsimmons>sam_affable: Check your catalina logfile within /var/log/tomcat5.5/. If you're using java-gcj-compat-dev, you have to disable use of the Java security manager (WRT Etch). Again, refer to tomcat5.5's README.Debian file.
13:42<stew>Laeborg: you have to quit whatever instance of apt-get / aptitude / synaptic / dpkg / whatever which is already running
13:42<Laeborg>hmm i don't think i have anything else running
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13:43<sam_affable>gsimmons: now when i did this export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-sun- i get different error when i start tomcat Starting Tomcat servlet engine: tomcat5.5Cannot locate Java Home
13:45<gsimmons>sam_affable: Define your JAVA_HOME variable within /etc/default/tomcat5.5.
13:45<stew>sam_affable: what does "readlink -f $(which java)" return?
13:46<sam_affable>stew: it returned /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-
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13:49<sam_affable>and /var/log/tomcat5.5/catalina.out is empty dosent show any erros
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14:03<dobian>Note that you absolutely need the JDK, not just the JRE
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14:10<Graveworm>Hi folks :)! Erm... I'm confused. I used to compile my kernel myself just to learn something about. Now I decided to use the precompiled ones. I use Debian lenny with an Athlon XP... But I can't find any matching kernel image. If I try "linux-image-2.6-k7" -beside that the latest version is "only" 2.6.24- aptitude wants to install even the binaries compiled for Intel processors.... Is that right? Why?
14:10<cahoot>k7 is no more
14:11<Graveworm>What else should I use then?
14:12<ifvoid>-686 I think
14:12<Graveworm>All I can find is for Intel machines...
14:12<cahoot>you know they are compatible?
14:12<ifvoid>Graveworm: they'll work on athlons too
14:12<Graveworm>Or I'm just to blind ;)
14:13<dobian>me k7 ;0
14:14<Graveworm>Erm...Hm? Compiled for Intel for use on an AMD? Really? So why is it only written that it is for Intel?
14:14<dobian>but i use vmplayer now ;p
14:16<dobian>i cant build kernel for k7 lol
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14:16<valdyn>dobian: why are you building a kernel?
14:17<dobian>so many device read...
14:17<valdyn>Graveworm: -k7 was abandoned, no idea why, but likely because -686 is just as suited for -k7 cpu
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14:18<dobian>i want simple kernel ;(
14:18<dobian>2-6-24 only
14:18<dobian>i serched before too
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14:21<Graveworm>Hmm.. Ok. I'll give "linux-image-2.6.25-2-686" a try... Although I can't understand why "and for AMD Athlon etc." isn't added to the description ;)....
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14:24<Graveworm>Thx for help so far :).
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14:25<jthomas>Anyone familiar with g4l (Ghost4Linux) or is there an IRC channel where I can ask abouts it?
14:26<fxiny>does it work ?
14:28<jthomas>fxiny: does g4l work? or are you writing to someone else?
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14:29<fxiny>jthomas: yes . that one
14:29<dobian>DEBIAN is outdated hardware does not support it if there is no reason to use ;p
14:30<fxiny>jthomas: do you know partimage/clonzilla ?
14:30<jthomas>well it seems to be working so far, but i am not sure if it will create a proper MBR or not, nor do i know if I need an identical partition size to write to or not...
14:30<jthomas>but so far I am only creating the image, not yet tested a restore...
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14:32<fxiny>i use partimage since ages , i still have the two floppies version . i never used clonzilla , it seems not that bad
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14:32<jthomas>do either of those require an identical filesystem setup?
14:33<jthomas>i.e., an exact partition size etc? g4l looks like a frontend to dd
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14:33<fxiny>nope . partimage can be tricky if the partition size is bigger than the original . need resizing it after
14:34<jthomas>i am afraid of the opposite, that the future partitions will be significantly smaller than this machines' 300+ GB drive
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14:34<fxiny>partimage is ok cause it skips unallocated space , i use dd piped to gz
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14:35<fxiny>jthomas: you cannot replace in a smaller partition
14:35<jthomas>yeah this has a built-in GZip or BZip use
14:35<fxiny>dd is dumb
14:35<jthomas>really. DAAAMN. I wonder if I should stop it and shrink the partition to something small, then upon future restores I could gro wit if needed...
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14:36<fxiny>jthomas: yes , shrink it before
14:36<fxiny>or use tar
14:36<Martinn>Hi, i am in text mode and i dont know how to open cdrom file... i dont know where it is located!
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14:37<jthomas>aarg, ok thanks for the info tho. Still I wonder about the MBR...
14:37<fxiny>Martinn: /media/cdrom
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14:37<fxiny>jthomas: dd or partimage can copy your mbr
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14:37<fxiny>jthomas: check out clonezilla
14:38<jthomas>but since I only selected a single partition, not the whole SDA, i don't know if it will
14:38<jthomas>ok will do
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14:38<fxiny>jthomas: no need for mbr then
14:38<jthomas>so how will it boot without an mbr?
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14:39<fxiny>jthomas: where's your destination ?
14:39<jthomas>network FTP
14:40<fxiny>jthomas: you are dumping it into an existing partion ?
14:41<jthomas>currently just backing up; in the future, yes that would be the idea
14:41<jthomas>i suppose
14:42<fxiny>jthomas: check clonzilla and partimage
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14:42<jthomas>yes i am thanks
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14:49<dobian> hi fxiny ;o
14:49<dobian>i have quession
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14:50<fxiny>dobian: hi
14:50<dobian>qemu-img create -f raw windows.img 10gb
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14:52<dobian>dd of=windwos.img bs=1024 seek 10240000 count 0
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14:53<Martinn>Hi, I cant locate cd files in media/cdrom... seems like cdrom is not even trying to read... wats up ?
14:54<dobian>dd of=windwos.img bs=1024 seek=10240000 count=0 err
14:54<jthomas>Martinn: you likely have to mount it first? "mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom"
14:54<fxiny>dobian: seems ok . what's the problem ?
14:54<jthomas>also its not at "media/cdrom" but at "/media/cdrom"
14:54<Martinn>jthomas: thanks
14:54<dobian>no ;)
14:54<fxiny>dobian: tmpfs size ?
14:54<dobian>need it?
14:55<fxiny>just if you are requested
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14:56<dobian>no i use vmplayey now
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14:57<dobian>fxiny: thanks
14:57<fxiny>dobian: np
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15:13<superlinux>hi all
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15:15<superlinux>well i keep my computer running and i leave it not used for a long time. well i when i come back to use it the system is very very slow. how can i force Linux to keep things in the RAM?
15:16<superlinux>it seems that most of the apps are saved in the swap
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15:18<superlinux>well i keep my computer running and i leave it not used for a long time. well i when i come back to use it the system is very very slow. how can i force Linux to keep things in the RAM?
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15:21<dobian>do you have system monitor? ;)
15:22<dobian>see resource
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15:23<superlinux>well.. yes... u mean like top?
15:23<superlinux>dobian: ?
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15:24<dobian>momory :)
15:24<superlinux>dobian: i had like over 152 processes sleepy
15:24<dobian> swap
15:24<superlinux>i had to reboot anyway to be able to talk to u
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15:25<superlinux>and the swap was full totally
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15:26<superlinux>it was verrry slow
15:26<superlinux>too slow
15:26<dobian>over heat ;p
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15:27<superlinux>well i have a server box . i made it a desktop
15:27<superlinux>HP compaq
15:27<superlinux>1 GB
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15:28<superlinux>and ECC RAM registered
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15:28<superlinux>how can i tell Linux to keep things in the RAM?
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15:29<dobian>do you have many swap?
15:29<svend>Is there a way to preseed debconf values for a package that has already been installed and configured?
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15:29<svend>When I preseed then dpkg-reconfigure, the settings get reset.
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15:30<Golfgeo>Hi all
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15:32<Golfgeo>got a question with first an introduction: I've been using Bloodshed Dev-C++ for some time now and it's now being updated yet a simple app to program in... The question is then: Is there an app that is simple and as a bonus runs on Debian and Windows?
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15:40<superlinux>Golfgeo: ur question is vague to me
15:41<Golfgeo>ah, ic
15:41<superlinux>there are many applications that runs on linux and windows at the same time
15:41<Golfgeo>I know
15:41<superlinux>dobian: thanks
15:42<superlinux>i'll see that
15:42<dobian>np ;p
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15:42<Golfgeo>What I need is a no hassle c++ wrinting app with a nice easy ide that can run on windows and linux...
15:42<Golfgeo>If it has a nice wysiwyg even beter :-)
15:43<Golfgeo>But easy is the term I love the most...
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15:44<superlinux>dobian: thats fine.. but i think thats wat is needed: "vm.swappiness" kernel value. i bookmarked that page
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15:45<msb9c1>hello all
15:45<msb9c1>okey I need help
15:45<superlinux>..or kernel control value
15:45<Golfgeo>Hi there msb9c1
15:45<superlinux>msb9c1: hi bro
15:46<msb9c1>i just installed debian on my power pc and I get an error xterm : Display is not set..
15:47<dobian>oh yes i bookmark too ;o
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15:47<msb9c1>any ideas how to fix this as I am a newbie to linux...,
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15:48<Golfgeo>lucas70: That is not my name, so I will wear it out!
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15:49<dobian>star wars? ;p
15:49<msb9c1>when I reboot I also get the follwoing.... failed to start thhe x server
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15:52<ja3000>msb9c1: your xorg.conf file might not be setup right.
15:52<dobian>clearpagefile shutdown ;p
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15:53<dobian>oh dpkg written dpkg-reconfigure xorg
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15:56<msb9c1>but it was a "fresh" install..
15:56<Golfgeo>gtg people. Have fun you hear!
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15:56<msb9c1>can I update my xorg.conf file from term?
15:56<dobian>what do you have video card?
15:57<msb9c1>Gefore2 MX 32 MB AGP
15:57<dobian>you need read xorg.conf setting
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15:58<dobian>vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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15:58<dobian>read only
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15:59<msb9c1>what am i looking for
15:59<ja3000>might want to do some googling on xorg.conf and the model name for your video card before doing any editing
16:00<msb9c1>it shows is as a nvida nv11 gefore 2 mx 400
16:00<superlinux>dobian: cant i do the ram disk in windows? and force the paging there?
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16:01<dobian>device setting
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16:02<msb9c1>ah it shows is as a PCI :0:16:0 but its an AGP
16:03<Graveworm>Hi folks....again ;). Ok. I installed a precompiled kernel now on Debian lenny. Version is 2.6.25-2-686. As I mentioned I used to use self compiled kernels before. With them I never had problems with my system under maximum load. By now if my system is under load often my music skips, my keyboard is "lagging" (repeating the last key pressed, after some seconds of doing nothing) etc.... Can I manipulate the scheduler/scaling somehow?
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16:06<dobian>msb9c1: vi /home/yourname .xsession-errors
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16:09<dobian>superlinux: i dont know linux's memory system ;p
16:10<superlinux>dobian: ok
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16:11<marcot>Hello, is there a way to make debootstrap uses /var/cache/apt/archives/ packages?
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16:13<msb9c1>all -- FYI Following line in xorg.conf caused crash:
16:13<msb9c1> Option "UseFBDev" "true"
16:13<msb9c1>After I removed it, X works normally!
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16:15<ErikRose_>What's the matter with lately? I've been getting lots of timeouts.
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16:18<msb9c1>how do you mount a hdd that is not seen...
16:20<streuner_>ErikRose: tons of people who trying to connect...
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16:23<dobian>select once more ;p
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16:26<konradb>anybody in there ?
16:26<dobian>;o dobi
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16:31<chameleon>does anyone know about Compiz and if it needs a video card with 512mb of ram ?
16:31<ja3000>no it doesn't
16:32<footrenzo>i have a problem with the caracters of my server, could someone help me please ? i had try to configure my server by this request dpkg-reconfigure locales in ISO-8859-1 because i'm french and the é è don't appear on my site
16:32<chameleon>ok so i have installed it but nothen has changed
16:32<ja3000>have you enabled it
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16:33<chameleon>not sure i read that all i had to do was restart pc and that was it
16:33<superlinux>bye.. thanks for the help
16:33<ja3000>open a terminal and type "compiz"
16:34<konradb>hi footrenzo
16:34<footrenzo>hi Konradb
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16:34<chameleon>failed :(
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16:35<path>where the hell is kde4 ?
16:36<path>i A kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 - core binaries for the KDE 4 base runtime module
16:36<chameleon>ja3000 did you see my pastbin?
16:36<path>just can find that
16:36<ja3000>ya i'm lookin at it now
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16:38<ja3000>not sure. never had this error when running compiz
16:39<svend>Is there a way to reinstall a package, and purge the local conffiles, replacing them with the defaults?
16:39<ja3000>are you running debian?
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16:39<xri>anyone trying to install 3.0r3 on NSLU2? connection closes when i format the root partition (out of memory?)
16:39<chameleon>me ja3000?
16:39<ja3000>chameleon: ya soryr
16:39<xri>ter, 4.0r3 that is
16:40<chameleon>yes i am
16:41<chameleon>i think i may need a new display driver
16:41<ja3000>are you using the default drivers from the install?
16:41<chameleon>i think so not sure
16:41<chameleon>how do i find out ?
16:42<ja3000>if you haven't updated them then you still are.I don't think they update themselves in debian like ubuntu
16:43<ja3000>what kind of video card do you have?
16:44<chameleon> K8M890 [Chrome9]
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16:45<qq>chameleon: via ?
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16:49<chameleon>any ideas?
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16:52<qq>chameleon: no, sry
16:53<ja3000>nada here. you might try cross referencing your video and compiz in google.
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16:53<holx>I am having a problem with xmodmap
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16:55<holx>I used xmodmap -e "keycode 21 = less greater", but it just made the key doing nothing at all instead of the previous function
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17:03<dobian>byebye thanks for help ;o
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17:24<firmit>hi - have some questions regarding a potential bug - is this the right place?
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17:25<noflash>firmit, if it's debian
17:25<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
17:25<firmit>yes - it's debian :)
17:26<firmit>i did an update today - including "hal-cups-utils"
17:26<firmit>after this - the system-config-printer shows:
17:26<firmit> File "/usr/bin/system-config-printer", line 58, in <module>
17:26<firmit> import pysmb
17:26<firmit> File "/usr/share/system-config-printer/", line 33, in <module>
17:26<firmit> from cupsutils.debug import *
17:26<firmit>ImportError: No module named cupsutils.debug
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17:28<firmit>lost connection - sr
17:28<firmit>ok - did an upgrade hal-cups-utils today
17:28<firmit>got this error msg running system-config-printer:
17:28<firmit>" File "/usr/bin/system-config-printer", line 58, in <module>
17:28<firmit> import pysmb
17:28<firmit> File "/usr/share/system-config-printer/", line 33, in <module>
17:28<firmit> from cupsutils.debug import *
17:28<firmit>ImportError: No module named cupsutils.debug
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17:29<firmit>- flood control... again sorry : I get these msg when running system-config-printer at cli
17:30<firmit>File "/usr/bin/system-config-printer", line 58, in <module>
17:30<firmit>import pysmb
17:30<firmit>File "/usr/share/system-config-printer/", line 33, in <module>
17:30<firmit>from cupsutils.debug import *
17:31<firmit>importError: No module named cupsutils.debug
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17:31<firmit>I believe this is because of the upgrade - I recently tried to install a richo afico network printer (unsuccesfully)
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17:32<firmit>it worked then
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17:33<firmit>anybody else having problem with system-config-printer after the latest update?
17:33<firmit>oh -yes - also python-cupsutils (1.0.0-2) got updated
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17:39<MotoHoss>see if that's the same/similar...
17:40<firmit>it's the same - only that the I have newer packages...
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17:41<MotoHoss>oops. that's all I found at the moment.
17:42<firmit>ty - you did good :)
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17:43<chameleon>tar zxvf CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_[date].tgz
17:43<firmit>The only thing that troubles me is that the bug is due to be closed - if not closed already - but given that I have a newer version.... i need to check it out
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17:43<chameleon>that wont work for me
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17:44<MotoHoss>jur velcome. try a paste site for more than 3 lines next time ;-)
17:44<chameleon>tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
17:44<chameleon>tar: Child returned status 2
17:44<chameleon>tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
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17:44<chameleon>anyone know what is going on
17:47<chameleon>pls help me someone
17:47<amphi>chameleon: what does file(1) say that file is?
17:47<chameleon>been trying for 3 days now
17:47<chameleon>tar: CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_[date].tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
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17:48<amphi>chameleon: do 'file filename.tgz' and paste what it says, in here
17:49<chameleon>do what ?
17:49<chameleon>tar zxvf CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_[date].tgz
17:49<chameleon>that is command i used
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17:50<amphi>chameleon: did you tab-complete the filename?
17:50<chameleon>that dont work for me
17:51<amphi>chameleon: so try that
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17:51<chameleon>what iam i looking for ?
17:51<amphi>what do you mean?
17:52<chameleon>Display all 1721 possibilities? (y or n)
17:52<amphi>did you type a few letters of the filename before attempting to tab complete it?
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17:53<chameleon>tar zxvf CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_[date].tgz
17:54<chameleon>that is the file
17:54<amphi>no, that's a command line
17:54<amphi>try single-quoting the filename
17:54<amphi>wtf does the filename have '[date]' in it?
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17:55<chameleon>i have no clue
17:55<chameleon>here is the page that iam following
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17:56<chameleon>iam at the part with the tar zxvf
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17:56<amphi>if you are having problems at this stage, the other steps are unlikely to be successful, IMHO
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17:57<chameleon>thay were tho
17:57<chameleon>ill do it all again
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17:57<Brian>Shit gotta run
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17:58<MotoHoss>chameleon : what does the command pwd return?
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17:59<chameleon>well i just put in the first line and it failed
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17:59<chameleon>nvm it was to remove the packet
17:59<amphi>chameleon: you are fairly unhelpable, as you do nothing that people suggest to you
18:00<chameleon>yes i have been
18:00<MotoHoss>at the command prompt. type 'pwd' wothout woutes hit enter. and pste the results here.
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18:02<MotoHoss>I agree with amphi.
18:02<qq>chameleon: wget
18:03<chameleon>i typed in pwd and pasted what it said
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18:03*MotoHoss thanks qq... that was next....
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18:04<chameleon>ok now that i have that what am i to do ?
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18:07<MotoHoss>adapt the instructions on that page to the file you just downloaded with wget.
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18:08<Nazcafan>I am running debian on a macbook and the gnome power manager displays a wrong state for the battery
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18:09<Nazcafan>is there a way (even command line) to know the charge state for the battery ?
18:09<Nazcafan>*another way
18:09<nevyn>type acpi
18:10<Nazcafan>nevyn ??
18:10<nevyn>Nazcafan: type acpi press enter
18:10<nevyn>at a console
18:11<Nazcafan>nevyn which package should I install to get this ?
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18:14<Nazcafan>fou@leila:~$ acpi
18:14<Nazcafan> Battery 0: Discharging, 0%, discharging at zero rate - will never fully discharge.
18:14<Nazcafan>something is wrong with my acpi settings
18:14<nevyn>try apm
18:14<chameleon>i tryed that command again but it not finding the file
18:15<amphi>chameleon: tar zxvf k8m890xf40069-kernel-src_20060620.tgz
18:15<amphi>is the file there?
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18:16<Nazcafan>nevyn, I have no apm support in the kernel
18:16<chameleon>it is on my desk top
18:17<amphi>chameleon: so you must cd to that directory, and untar it
18:18<chameleon>been trying but cant get to my desktop
18:18<amphi>it'll be ~/.desktop or ~/Desktop or ~/desktop or some such, I expect
18:19<amphi>or just save the damn thing in your home directory, or somewhere you can find it
18:19<amphi>why save it somewhere you can't find it?
18:20<chameleon>it saves it to desktop be it self dont give me choice
18:21<amphi>what 'it'? wget saves in the current directory, unless you tell it otherwise
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18:22<chameleon>i dont know how to use wget
18:22<chameleon>iam sorry iam a noob
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18:22<chameleon>but ive learned so much in 3 days
18:23<amphi>chameleon: you were just told: < qq> chameleon: wget
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18:24<MotoHoss>chameleon : u using debian?
18:24<amphi>chameleon: that will download the file to whatever directory you are in when you run the command
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18:25<chameleon>got it
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18:28<Nazcafan>something is going really wrong with my battery
18:28<Nazcafan>I don't like it at all
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18:33<Guest3443> is horribly slow, weather too hot for the server?
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18:57<Peter_1974>hi guys. My knoppix box keeps dieing. how do
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18:57<Peter_1974>i find out why?
18:58<Peter_1974>please help :)
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19:02<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. unofficial: <Debian-live> is the Debian equiv for publishing live systems.
19:03<noflash>my pleasure
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19:30<soleil>how do i open bittorent ports? my previous install was sidux, a debianbased distro and i was able to torrent without any problems
19:31<dondelelcaro>soleil: we don't block any ports by default
19:31<soleil>yet now i get "port is closed" all the time
19:31<nevyn>check you havn't installed a firewall that sets iptables rules.
19:32<soleil>hm i don't think i have
19:32<soleil>i ahed firestarter but i deleted that
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19:33<soleil>and it can't be a router problem since i could use bittorent yesterday with sidux
19:34<dondelelcaro>soleil: port is closed often just means that nothing is listening on that port.
19:34<dondelelcaro>could be
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19:34<soleil>i get that message from deluge and transmission
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19:38<soleil>maybe if i reboot in the sidux livecd i can check what ports the apps used
19:39<soleil>although they should be the same defaults as debian
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19:43<MotoHoss>ok dokey. two isp's(2 different nics) and one internal facing nic and how to set the default route. that's my next adventure. ;-)
19:45<nevyn>MotoHoss: do you have a routable ip address?
19:45<MotoHoss>both the isp's are routable ip addresses. (public)
19:45<nevyn>MotoHoss: if you want a real redundantly connected site you need live ip addresses and both ISP's to publish the same addresses
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19:48<MotoHoss>I wish... 1 reasonable isp one unreasonable.
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19:48<MotoHoss>get both addresses dhcp...
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20:26<daffyz>i think that debian may be exist with pre-installed deskop, not only gnome & kde, but add fluxbox, xfce, windowmaker, etc. make this attention will provide to debian a bigger attractivity
20:27<daffyz>some people use ubuntu and will be more enjoy on a gnu/linux debian
20:27<daffyz>the problem is they don't know this
20:28<chealer>!tell daffyz about enter
20:28<daffyz>i'm here since this morning...
20:28<daffyz>chealer, this about my request...
20:28<daffyz>this -> think
20:28<qq>here is 02:28:23
20:29<daffyz>so, bye
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21:13<bebin>where can i get smartlink 2801 modem driver
21:17<nevyn>what sort of modem is it?
21:19<bebin>nevyn: its a 56.6 kbps pci modem
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21:26<bebin>nevyn: can you help me
21:26<nevyn>bebin: what's the chipset of the device?
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21:31<bebin>nevyn: smart link 2801
21:31<bebin>nevyn: smartlink 2801
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21:48<chameleon>hi all iam back
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21:50<chameleon>ok i try to cs into a dir and it wont let me in and i know it is there what is the problem
21:50<lennie>hi all, I observe exec "dpkg -x foo.deb directory",then the permission of the directory will be changed to 755. I think it's a bug
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21:52<lennie>I try to exec "dpkg -x foo.deb /tmp",dpkg changed the permission of /tmp to 755,then, a big trouble ..
21:52<chameleon>dude i dont thin any one is here
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21:53<chameleon>i wish westly was here
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21:54<MotoHoss>chameleon : u mean 'cd' into a directory...
21:54<chameleon>it is there when i open it manualy
21:56<MotoHoss>explain manualy...
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21:56<chameleon>and even i dir it says it is there
21:56<MotoHoss>I didn't catch your reply while ago are you using debian?
21:57<chameleon>manualy by clicking my computer and going through the windows
21:57<chameleon>yes iam useing debian
21:57<qq486>...which one
21:59<MotoHoss>the directory you are trying to 'get into' show up on your desktop?
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22:02<MotoHoss>ok. what happens at the prompt when you try to 'cd' into it?
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22:07<superlinux>hi all
22:07<superlinux>i need a linux youtube uploader? is there any?
22:09<bog>someone can help me with something.... i have been feeling a low in my debian when first running the gnome interface when i login, and when running iceweasel...any ideas? or explanations?
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22:10<MotoHoss>chameleon : pace yourself. and do a little reading so you understand what it is you are attempting to do a little better.
22:10<MotoHoss>chameleon :
22:11<MotoHoss>time for me to do some research.
22:11*MotoHoss is away: Researching...
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22:14<bog> i have been feeling a low in my debian when first running the gnome interface when i login, and when running iceweasel...any ideas? or explanations?
22:16<marvin>"feeling a low"?
22:17<chameleon>i know what iam trying to do ive been in the dir befor then i try to get in to the dir again and it wont let me i just dont understand
22:17<bog>marvin: yes, is not as fast as it used to be
22:18<chameleon>ha ha i would think some one is in your system doing things
22:18<chameleon>like iam sure someone is in my system but then again i have nothen
22:18<qq486>like ?
22:19<chameleon>i guess iam just parnoied
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22:20<superlinux>i need a linux based youtube uploader? is there any?
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22:22<bog>an Uploader?
22:24<chameleon>no help to night
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22:26<agh>is this a support channel?
22:26<chameleon>i would think so
22:26<chameleon>but i dont think it is
22:26<agh>well, i have acouple of cquestions compilling audacious
22:27<agh>i compiled with default options
22:27<not4u>ok. check it out. i'm trying to get vmplayer working
22:27<agh>now i really need JACK support and i dont really know what is the exact command to achieve that --enable-jack VS --enable-jackd
22:27<not4u>that one ^^^
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22:28<chameleon>look and see
22:28<chameleon>MSI:/home# dir
22:28<chameleon>chameleon k8m890xf40069-kernel-src_20060620.tgz
22:28<chameleon>K8M890XF40069-kernel-src_20060620 lost+found
22:28<chameleon>MSI:/home# cd /K8M890XF40069-kernel-src_20060620
22:28<chameleon>bash: cd: /K8M890XF40069-kernel-src_20060620: No such file or directory
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22:29<chameleon>this is my problem
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22:40<aib_>i'd like to mix packages between distributions, say etch with a few lenny packages. I added Apt::Default-Release "stable"; to /etc/apt/apt.conf and added lenny repos to /etc/apt/sources.list, then ran `apt-get -t lenny install hello', but it still gets the package from etch
22:41<aib_>i tried RTFMing too:
22:41<aib_>see the "How to keep a mixed system" section
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22:42<superlinux>i need a linux based youtube uploader? is there any? google has a java based uploader to its videos. i want to a batch multi upload
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23:01<superlinux>plz.. help
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23:02<Nemoder>I only know of clive for downloading
23:02<superlinux>Nemoder: but no uploader!!
23:02<Nemoder>I don't know of any
23:03<Nemoder>try searching maybe there is one
23:03<jimisrvrox>have a bit of a problem here..every time I log back into my linux box I have to re-size the screen with my monitor to get my right scroll bar to show up on the there anyway that I can fix this in linux so that I dont have to keep re-sizing the horizontal width on my monitor?
23:03<superlinux>there is a one in C# "tubecast"
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23:03<superlinux>but comipled in windows
23:03<Nemoder>jimisrvrox: try xvidtune
23:04<jimisrvrox>why does it have that problem?
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23:05<superlinux>ok.. but is there a way at least that i can upload to google, and then use the links in the youtube playlist.. if so my problem is solved. thats all i want
23:06<superlinux>i am making videos about debian in arabic voice.
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23:41<aaron>alguien me puede ayudar?
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23:42<chameleon>vid for all tel me what you thing of it
23:42<chameleon>i dont even understand what he is saying but it is sick
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23:45<chameleon>missing out
23:45<chameleon>sickes sfuff
23:45<chameleon>i sware he is talking about robing a ban k on e gentoo
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