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---Logopened Tue Aug 12 00:00:23 2008
00:00<peterS>this was over telnet, though, not serial port
00:00<zjason>peterS: Your comments are very helpful. Thanks
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00:16<syntax_>I replaced my kernel with the BSD mach kernel, and now my system won't boot
00:16<syntax_>how do I fix it?
00:17<syntax_>should I use dselect?
00:17<syntax_>or download sources and compile?
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02:11<eddieB_>can anyone help me with installing Flash for Konqueror browser? i've installed it but i'm still being asked to install flash whenever i try to view a website containing flash
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02:23<meandtheshell>I am looking for alternatives to "ls -l <path_to_block_device>" in order to figure a block devices major and minor number. Any nifty commands out there to get this job done? I already tried "stat --printf="%d %t %T\n" /dev/mapper/vg_mail-mail_private
02:23<meandtheshell>" for example but it only returns major and minor number in hex ... decimal would be nice
02:29<Baggy2>Finally, I've managed to finish my canadian cross build =) One question to you guys. If I want to upgrade glibc and still use the same version of gcc, will I also need to upgrade gcc?
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02:33<eddieB_>can anyone help me with installing Flash for Konqueror browser? i've installed it but i'm still being asked to install flash whenever i try to view a website containing flash
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03:53<Ascavasaion>Hello all. How do I install KDE4 on my Debian Stable machine?
03:53<Ascavasaion>dpkg: kde
03:53<dpkg>kde is probably a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde (, or ask me about <kde_trouble>, or to get KDE, ask about <install kde>. KDE-related IRC channels:
03:55<Ascavasaion>Any ideas?
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03:56<Ascavasaion>not allk at once you hear HAHAHA
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04:17<Oper>All Hi
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04:46<EmleyMoor>I'm getting occasional kernel Oopses that mention "scanbuttond" - is it possible this could be due to faulty USB? I know I have problems with my main USB and have had to add an extra just for the scanner...
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04:47<jm_>oops should tell you where it happened
04:49*massmc shows off his wireless connection to everyone.. "I shit younot it has been 3 full days to get this thing on the net"
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04:50<Baggy2>Where can I get sanitized kernel headers?
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04:53<meandtheshell>will btrfs make LVM superfluous?
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04:54<meandtheshell>good question ... ain't it ;)
04:54<EmleyMoor>Not heard of btrfs
04:54<meandtheshell> now you have
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04:55<EmleyMoor>Oh, self-RAIDing? Hmmm...
04:56<EmleyMoor>Well, built-in RAIDing anyway
04:56<jm_>it only has mirroring doesn't it?
04:56<EmleyMoor>Yes, I think so
04:57<EmleyMoor>These developments are of course interesting but it could take some time before an old proven thing is replaced
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04:57<meandtheshell>I agree but then I like what I hear about btrfs
04:57<jm_>Btrfs can do raid0, raid1, raid10 and it can duplicate metadata on a single spindle.
04:58<jm_>ext4 also looks promising - it wasn't slower than btrfs in recent post/benchmark from btrfs author on lkml
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04:59<lothar>jm_: Did you noticed my success ?
04:59<jm_>(that was a very limited benchmark)
04:59<jm_>lothar: no, I only joined about 15 minutes ago
05:00<lothar>jm_: Ok, I have retried to configure with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and used for a try the fbdev. And that's it!
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05:01<jm_>lothar: you already had usefbdev enabled yesterday
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05:03<lothar>jm_: Yes, but now I also have NOT choosen the graphics driver 'ati'. Instead I have choosen fbdev. The question to use usefbdev came later in the configuration flow.
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05:14<Baggy2>jm_: If I build glibc against kernel 2.6.18 it will also work for 2.6.24, right? Will it work the other way around?
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05:17<jm_>Baggy2: to be honest I am not familiar with building glibc - i think it should work yes
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05:18<Moga2>sorry got a disconnect. dont know if it would be sent, so again: anyone can explain me, why my system (etch i368) only show 906mb of ram instead of 2048 installed ddr memory? bios shows me the whole 2gb of ram
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05:19<Baggy2>jm_: Thanks, I will get it to work, but it takes some time to recompile every time I do something wrong ;-) google provides me with very few answers on this topic..
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05:20<lothar>Ok, bye...
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05:21<gsimmons>!tell Moga2 -about highmem
05:22<jm_>Baggy2: how about linux from scratch?
05:22<Moga2>thanks gsimmons
05:23<jm_>Moga2: you need 4G enabled kernel (debian only has one highmem kernel, which should work)
05:23<Baggy2>jm_: what do you mean?
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05:29<EmleyMoor>How do I tell where an Oops is? Is the EIP the indication or am I looking for some other term?
05:30<jm_>EmleyMoor: doesn't it print backtrace for you?
05:30<Baggy2>jm_: very interesting, thanks
05:30<EmleyMoor>jm Ã_: I would more say it splurges it
05:32<EmleyMoor>What I really need is to understand it
05:32<jm_>EmleyMoor: it although he is managing HTTPS (OVO 8.X) agents.
05:33<jm_>there should be a similar explanation from Linus in this thread too IIRC
05:33<jm_>that's how oops should look like, with a backtrace
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05:35<EmleyMoor>jm_: That's somewhat Â"more than", though
05:35<jm_>EmleyMoor: more than what?
05:36<EmleyMoor>What you said
05:37<EmleyMoor>However, yes, it looks like the EIP shows where it is happening - and it's in sysfs
05:38<jm_>yes, it's instruction pointer
05:38<EmleyMoor>sysfs_hash_and_remove in fact
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05:43<EmleyMoor>Not really causing me enough trouble to be bothered with at present
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05:47<zett>i have problem with time
05:47<zett>when i can set good time after restart
05:47<zett>system change time to bad zone
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05:49<EmleyMoor>zett: Sounds like you need to set up the system's timezone
05:51<EmleyMoor>Try running tzconfig
05:51<zett>and second problem
05:51<zett>i cant change theme with KDM manager
05:52<zett>how to run tzconfig ?
05:53<EmleyMoor>As root, tzconfig, and set the most appropriate zone. Is your hardware clock in UTC?
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05:54<zett>i think yes
05:54<EmleyMoor>zett: Should be simple enough then
05:54<zett>type tzconfig as root to console ???
05:54<zett>command not found
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05:55<gsimmons>zett: Use "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" if using a release later than Etch.
05:55<EmleyMoor>Ah, yes
05:55<zett>I use testing Lenny
05:55<EmleyMoor>In that case, gsimmons is right
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05:56<zett>nice thank you
05:56<zett>and my second problem ?
05:57<lothar>Hi, any developer channels available ? Propably no difference between PPC and X86.
05:57<zett>EmleyMoor u use some theme ?
05:58<EmleyMoor>I don't use KDM
05:58<zett>you have gnome or kde or you use some theme i dont mean only KDM
05:59<zett> /Cry
05:59<zett>you can send me your desktop screenshot ?
06:00<EmleyMoor>zett: Not easily right now
06:02<lothar>zett: I have gaim - there is a room list functionality :-)
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06:09<lothar>Didn't find any usefull channel with programming as general topic (english). Gaim has a search functionality, but it is not implemented as filtering :-(
06:11<zett>how i can change value here ? /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
06:11<massmc>evening.. I have a problem with my time/date It keeps going back to US Time each reboot.. any help?
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06:12<raevol>could anyone recommend a graphical partition manager that doesn't have gnome dependencies?
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06:13<jm_>zett: try #debian-kde
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06:18<mike_>Hi! I have a problem with gadmin-proftpd package. It's close immediate after start. Can anybody know what's happen?
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06:23<jm_>if a package is in the debian repository for several architectures, but buildd doesn't show any logs for it, does that mean developer built it elsewhere?
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06:27<massmc>i have installed filezilla, as soon as started it tells me to get an update.. is there a command to update it in apt-get for new version?
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06:33<gsimmons>massmc: You're experiencing a bug in Etch's version of FileZilla. See #431435 in the BTS.
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06:41<lothar>Just a question if someone here knows about it. Propably to be asked in any glibc mailinglist: What's this: *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x0f054c28 ***. gdb 'where' reports __fsetlocking () before the abort function. Any ideas ?
06:41<massmc>gsimmons, thankyou :)
06:42<jm_>lothar: alsmot certainly a bug in the application
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06:43<jaalto>I have problem with command: apt-get -o APT::Dir::Etc::sourcelist="$HOME/tmp/sources.list" update
06:43<jaalto>It still reads the /etc/apt/sources.list
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06:44<lothar>jm_: Yes. But I can't debug that, because of possible corrupted stack. I tried to use mpatrol, but the GUI then is very slow and my last tries are failed yet. I want to narrow it if possible anyhow.
06:44<jm_>jaalto: lookng at configure-index it's constructed as Etc "etc/apt/" { SourceList "sources.list"; ... }
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06:44<jm_>lothar: try valgrind
06:45<jaalto>I tried various permutations, like: apt-get -o APT::Dir="$HOME/tmp" -o APT::Dir::Etc="." -o APT::Dir::Etc::sourcelist="$HOME/tmp/sources.list" update
06:45<jaalto>with same results
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06:46<lothar>jm_: First I'll try mpatrol on this box or the x86 box and not with any remote X session. The failure was a sleep and a disconnection :-(
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06:47<lothar>jm_: Have to use my small test applications first and learn mpatrol to fix the errors happening there first :-)
06:48<lothar>jm_: Using valgrind must be implemented in my code first even it would work without changes, it is more work I think.
06:49<jm_>it works for me when I specify different path in apt.conf
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06:50<lothar>jm_: apt.conf ? You answred to me ?
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06:50<jm_>lothar: naah
06:51<jm_>lothar: using valgrind is transparent, you don't need to make any changes in the code
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06:52<jm_>the key is not apt::dir, it's a top level key ...
06:52<jaalto>jm: Shouldn't it work also with the "-o" options?
06:52<jm_>jaalto: it works with -o too
06:52<jaalto>Ah, you mean to drop "APT::"
06:53<lothar>jm_: Ok, that may be an option. But first I try to use mpatrol on this box. It's just two built's away :-)
06:53<jaalto>jm_: Works, thank you
06:54<jm_>lothar: mpatrol is also preloadable, isn't it?
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06:55<jm_>yeah it is
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06:55<jm_>I remember we even used it with success once on sparc, but just once :)
06:57<lothar>jm_: I think. That's also an option I should try first.
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07:01<lothar>jm_: mpatrol -D -l seems to work :-)
07:01<jm_>lothar: glibc has built in malloc debugging too
07:02<lothar>jm_: Just waiting for the log, app is currently running...
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07:08<bzalto>I'm new to Linux and want to know how I can navigate to a directory in terminal
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07:09<Nemoder>cd = change directory, ls = list directory contents
07:10<Nemoder>if you need more info then you should probably buy a book :)
07:10<bzalto>how do I navigate to desktop? I tried that cammand and the response was: no such directory
07:10<dpkg>Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference)
07:11<Nemoder>Linux is Case Sensitive
07:11<bzalto>I read the installl guide and everything online for months and I still can't change directories.
07:12<pumpkin0>And use "-sign if there are any spaces in a name. wrong: cd my new directory, right: cd "my new directory".
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07:13<bzalto>Thanks, I'll try that!
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07:29<zett>how to open this in console ?
07:29<wandor>what? irc ?
07:29<zett> /etc/default/kdm.d
07:29<petemc>why is it you can use irc but not a search engine?
07:30<wandor>cat /etc/default/kdm.d ?
07:31<zett>i can open this in Kate but cant edit
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07:32<petemc>you would need to be root
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07:33<petemc>zett: now might be a good time to familiarise yourself with one on the command line editors. nano is easy to use
07:33<petemc>its a good investment of your time to learn vim
07:34<zett>cant open witn nano -w /etc/default/kdm.d
07:34<petemc>you need to be root
07:34<petemc>to edit it, it should open read only as a normal user
07:35<zett>but i cant open with this command as a root
07:35<petemc>what does it say when you try?
07:35<Nemoder>sudo nano /etc/default/kdm.d
07:36<Nemoder>hm is kdm.d a directory?
07:36<petemc>oh dear
07:36<wandor>cd /etc/default/kdm.d ??
07:37<zett>so i need edit file in this direcftory
07:37<Nemoder>so.. nano /etc/default/kdm.d/10_desktop_base
07:38<zett>lol so simple
07:38<zett>thank you
07:38<zett>hmm nothing
07:39<zett>say new file
07:39<Nemoder>ls /etc/default/kdm.d/
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08:02<dpkg>rumour has it, tls is Transport Layer Security (ssl), or Thread-Local Storage, or in polish, TrzyLiterowy Skrot, translated to ThreeLetter Acronym, or
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08:04<Baggy2>How important is this TLS stuff.. really? Can I safely remove it from glibc?
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08:08<jm_>Baggy2: some apps use it
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08:49<lothar>I have a question about libgtk 2.12.x or 2.10.x versions. Where did I get these packages ? Are they available for Etch (PPC) ?
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08:50<jm_>etch has 2.12
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08:51<lothar>jm_: Hmm. synaptic says to me 2.8.20-7 ?
08:51<lothar>libgtk 2.0-0.
08:51<jm_>lothar: sorry, yes etch has 2.8
08:52<lothar>Is Lenny a version that contains these newer packages ?
08:52<lothar>Hmm, must I update with a CD ?
08:52<jm_>no, you can use apt
08:53<lothar>I am newbie. How do I that ?
08:53<jm_>!tell lothar about etch->lenny
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08:55<lothar>jm_: Is it known to be stable, thus the update process doesn't break my installation ?
08:55<noflash>lothar, try there is an installation manual and a reference that are both good
08:56<jm_>lothar: hard to say, it should be relatively safe at this point since it's frozen
08:57<lothar>Ahh, ok. I am simply waiting for my OpenMoko. Therefore I need a newer development machine :-) I'll read the docs first and propably make a full backup...
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08:59<jm_>or install it in chroot if you have enough space
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09:01<lothar>Hehe. Propably a 1TB USB HD. My box is about to be 42% used by a 25GB partition size. Another option would be Qemu for a try.
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09:03<Baggy2>Just a wild guess.. I will have to rebuild both gcc and the kernel if I upgrade glibc, right?
09:03<Baggy2>I mean, all tools will want to use the old runtimes..
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09:13<margiolas>hello i have conntectes my printer on my laptop and it works very good and i want to print from an other laptop which is connected in the same network how i can do that?
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09:16<jm_>margiolas: it's trivial with cups
09:17<munga__>margiolas: you can configure cups to accept print remote requests on the server and then configure the other pc to use the server as a spool server
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09:17<margiolas>ok thanks
09:18<munga__>how can I configure pam + krb + sudo to allow only users with a ticket user/admin to be authenticated ?
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09:20<hiddenscript>hi all
09:21<hiddenscript>i've a kind of problem with my eeepc 900, can anyone here help me?
09:21<qq_>jusr ask
09:21<qq_>just* ask
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09:25<hiddenscript>Yesterday I switched off the eeepc, now the LCD don't work, but if i link it with the monitor of an other computer, all works fine...
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09:26<margiolas>hiddenscript: when you boot the laptop did you see the bios screen etc?
09:26<hiddenscript>no, it's all black...
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09:28<hiddenscript>just this morning i've saw the boot screen, but 2 seconds later was all black...
09:28<jm_>maybe it died
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09:28<margiolas>hiddenscript: ok check if there is any option in bios to deactivate the lcd screen, you can do this with with the external screen..
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09:29<Hereje>I need to save the output of the line: --- du /home/myfolder | awk '{print $1}' --- in a shell variable... How can i do this ?
09:29<hiddenscript>no, i've already whatched...
09:29<margiolas>hiddenscript: I don't think that this is a problem of the operating system it's seems that it has to do with hardware
09:29<jm_>BLA=$(shell command)
09:29<petemc>foo=$(du /home/myfolder | awk '{print $1}'}
09:29<Hereje>jm_, I will try
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09:29<petemc>wrong bracket at the end
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09:31<hiddenscript>margiolas: i know, but i searched on google, but all sites say the same thing...
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09:32<margiolas>hiddenscript: what said the sites?
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09:32<Hereje>./test: line 2: ${du -s /home/yeretik | awk '{print $1}'}: bad substitution
09:33<hiddenscript>they say that i must bring it in assistance...
09:34<EmleyMoor>What do I do to edit a menu in Gnome desktop?
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09:35<munga__>EmleyMoor: right click on the menu ?
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09:36<krishna>EmleyMoor: use Alacarte
09:36<EmleyMoor>krishna: Ah, that was it - sure I have that but if not I will reinstall
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09:37<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... that did something but not much
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09:38<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... not running
09:38<Hereje>Thanks... I was use bad brackets
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09:38<EmleyMoor>It's running - dead slow though
09:38<Hereje>I fixed it and works perfect
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09:41<EmleyMoor>It's slow!
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09:46<christoph>Hi. I'm searching for a tutorial to configure an apache2. Any link?
09:47<c0ld-fuZi0n>you trying to configure a LAMP server?
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09:59<munga__>christoph: the debian initial configuration works out of the box... are you trying to do something in particular ?
10:00<christoph>No. I just thought: it couldn't be that easy
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10:04<munga__>christoph: if you just need a simple webserver you might also have a look at lighttpd
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10:04<viderporst>Hello, i'm trying to figure out how to get my remote controls key events mapped to different keysyms than the keyboards events.
10:05<christoph>I think my "problem" are virtual hosts.. but the keyword was all i need. I wanna have the full apache2... all or nothing :D
10:05<christoph>But thanks munga__.
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10:06<viderporst>How could i tell either xorg to use different keysyms depending on the event's source?
10:06<munga__>FYI lighttpd handles virtual hosts as well
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10:21<nestor>Anyone have a suggestion for a working 'lenny' repo for 4.0r3 on PPC?
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10:22<Webmind-org>!hi all
10:22<dpkg>Hi noone!
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10:22<gsimmons>!tell nestor -about sources.list
10:23<gsimmons>nestor: You'd want to replace "etch" with "lenny" in dpkg's example.
10:23<nestor>I need an entry for sources.list
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10:23<nestor>I seem to always run across packages that only exist in lenny...
10:24<nestor>...what is the evolution of etch, sid, lenny, etc. anyway?
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10:25<dpkg>releases is, like, See for an explanation of releases. See <release history> for prior releases.
10:25<nestor>@gsimmons: should I duplicate the line, keeping etch repos, or comment it out?
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10:27<gsimmons>nestor: What are you trying to do?
10:27<nestor>add a lenny repo to sources.list
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10:35<nestor>@gsimmons: evey time I add a new repo, I get an error like:
10:35<nestor>E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/
10:35<nestor>E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
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10:47<gsimmons>nestor: You shouldn't be referencing Lenny binary package archives on an Etch system. For your desired software, either install a backported package (if available, /msg dpkg, generate a backport yourself (/msg dpkg ssb), install Lenny in a chroot (/msg dpkg debootstrap) then install/run it there, or upgrade your current release to Lenny (/msg dpkg etch->lenny).
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10:59<Zeus>hi tell me plz how to start stoped task, I pressed Pause\Break button
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11:10<nestor>thanks, that explains it.
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11:23<Lenhix>Hello ppl
11:23<Lenhix>I'm mounting a mail server on Debian Etch and I need to join the machine into a Windows Domain to get the +mjp Windows Active Directory using winbind. I've googled lots but I can't figure out how to solve this error I'm getting +N86ers the Windows Domain: utils/net_ads.c:ads_startup(289) ads_connect: Interrupted system call
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11:23<Lenhix>I used this howto AbortRet1yFail ( word by word but I'm not getting good results
11:24<Lenhix>I'm hoping anyone here can help me
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11:32<michu>hi all
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11:33<maddash>I've got a wired and wireless interface, eth0 and eth1, respectively, and each is hooked up to a different LAN using DHCP. Is it possible to somehow 'merge' them together so that I can utilize both their bandwidths?
11:34<petemc>!split access
11:34<dpkg>methinks split access is when you have 2 networks connected to the same computer, with their separate default gateways, the first step in loadbalancing,, or
11:34<maddash>cool, thanks petemc
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11:34<maddash>petemc: hm, the first link is 404
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11:39<Lenhix>I think my help request got lost :(
11:39<petemc>it was displayed ok
11:39<Lenhix>Oh, fine
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11:40<petemc>no one answered tho
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11:40<Lenhix>Oh, not fine
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11:40<Lenhix>Gotta wait, I guess
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11:41<fxiny>enouf: boing boing
11:41<Guest1397>hi man
11:41<nathan>receiving an error message when trying to fix my steam problems ack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library, please install this library to use jack
11:42-!-mode/#debian [+l 373] by debhelper
11:42<Guest1397>so hi guys
11:42<nathan>shoot wrong network
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11:42<Guest1397>i need a help
11:43<Guest1397>i want to install my knoppix on my harddrive
11:43<fxiny>wrong chan
11:43<Guest1397>any sugestions
11:43<stevecotton>Why not ask in #knoppix?
11:43<maddash>er, stupid question: in ,
11:44<Guest1397>i used knoppix-installer bt does nt work
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11:44<Guest1397>hi steve can u help me
11:44<maddash>...I've already ifup'ed eth1/eth0, and now I'm running the 'up' commands listed in that manually. but, "ip route add dev eth1 src table T1" returns "Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "". "
11:45<maddash>oops, never mind.
11:46<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. unofficial: <Debian-live> is the Debian equiv for publishing live systems.
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11:46<wandor>maddash ?
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11:47<redondos>hi. I am having problems with the texlive-base package in which apparently the postinst script failed once and now it's not being rerun with subsequent invocations of `dpkg --configure -a': -- what can I do about it?
11:48<Guest1397>so how can i get a this debian , i am a new user of linux sys
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11:49<fxiny>Guest1397: new user ? right : knoppix is not debian so if you want this chan support install debian
11:51<Guest1397>yep, i need a download source. www. where
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11:51<maddash>petemc: is a bit confusing --- for example, it uses $cidr2 and $gw2 without defining what they are first
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11:51<dpkg>[debian] See
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11:52<mkeys>I can get kadmin.local to work, but kadmin gives the error Cannot contact any KDC for requested realm
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11:53<mkeys>I put the "real" ip in hosts above the loopback address, but that didn't help either
11:53<maddash>anyone? what are $cidr* and $gw*?
11:54<Guest1397>thanks man
11:54<Guest1397>i appreciate
11:54<maddash>never mind.
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11:58<svh>dose anyone know about the game war zone 2100
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12:00<andare> does anyone know how to add a url in ktorrent?
12:00<lieven>someone knows if its possible to remote control an Debian installed PC by using remote desktop of Windows XP?
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12:02<andare> does anyone know how add a url in ktorrent?
12:02<lieven>someone knows if its possible to remote control an Debian installed PC by using remote desktop of Windows XP?
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12:03<andare> does anyone know how add a url in ktorrent?
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12:03<computeraap>hello is this a support channel?
12:03<Torsten_W>it is
12:04<computeraap>nice :>
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12:04<computeraap>i have this problem with debian detecting just the first sata drive in my system
12:04<computeraap>i have s1: 250 gb, s2 500 gb, s3 500 gb
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12:04<lieven>someone knows if its possible to remote control an Debian installed PC by using remote desktop of Windows XP?
12:04<computeraap>debian is now installed on s1, but i can't detect s2 and s3
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12:05<andare> does anyone know how KTorrent work's???
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12:06<wandor>andare google knows
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12:07<andare> i have tried google & found nothing, that's why i'm in here look'n for some help on Ktorrent
12:07<lieven>someone knows if its possible to remote control an Debian installed PC by using remote desktop of Windows XP?
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12:07<Torsten_W>computeraap: "i can't" is not an error message
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12:07<andare> I would like to add a url in KTorrent but don't know how, hop'n someone in here can help me out?
12:08<wandor>andare google knows
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12:08<remdolt>google knows everything
12:08<Torsten_W>lieven: how often you will ask again?
12:08<computeraap>hehehe i don't get errors, i have to be honest i didn't touch a linux system for over a year
12:08<Torsten_W>computeraap: does "fdisk -l" show all disks?
12:08<computeraap>it doesn't turn up in dmesg (only the first sata drive) and i don't know how to probe
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12:09<remdolt>even googling an error message with quotes around it can be rewarding
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12:09<remdolt>andare: leave please
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12:09<wandor>andare try yahoo then
12:09<computeraap>no it doesn't show the disks, they aren't mounted
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12:10<Torsten_W>computeraap: can you paste this output?
12:10<andare> i just don't like it when ppl tell me to look it up on my own when ppl in here r help'n other ppl that r in need of help & i'm one of though's ppl that r in need of help so why don't u ppl wanna help me out???
12:10<computeraap>office:/# fdisk -l
12:10<computeraap>Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
12:10<computeraap>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
12:10<computeraap>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
12:10<computeraap> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
12:10-!-computeraap was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
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12:10<wandor>omg, so many r-s :)
12:10<computeraap>i got flooded i think
12:11<wandor>andare R you a piRate ?
12:11<Torsten_W>computeraap: use a paste-site
12:11<Torsten_W>wandor: don'tfeed the troll ;)
12:11<wandor>Torsten_W sorry :(
12:11<computeraap>ok i put up a page
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12:11<andare> wandor: wft, i'm NOT no god damn troll
12:11<remdolt>andare: stop downloading pr0n
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12:12<andare> i'm NOT download'n any pron wtf!!!
12:12<wandor>porn is bad, mmmmmkey ?
12:12<fxiny>pr0n :P
12:12<Torsten_W>why you don't read the doco?
12:12<remdolt>andare: it damages the brain. really it does. you should stop.
12:12<wandor>there is no documentation in the world for ktorrent, he googled it all :(
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12:13<wandor>big boy huh ?
12:13<Torsten_W>computeraap: what i should do with this link?
12:13<Torsten_W>computeraap: use
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12:13<andare> DAMN STRAIGHT, BITCH!!!!!!
12:13<remdolt>full grown noob alert. watch out, everybody.
12:14<andare> SHUT THE **** UP BITCH!!!
12:14<remdolt>!tell computerapp about paster
12:14<computeraap>sry newb around here,
12:14<wandor>wget -c <<--- solves ktorrent problem :)
12:14<remdolt>no prob
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12:14<wandor>oh noes, a 25 old guy with caps lock, god help us all....
12:15<Torsten_W>computeraap: how the 2 other discs are connected?
12:15<remdolt>my kidney is failing and my insurance provider told me that there is nothing wrong with me. i got my own problems, sonny.
12:15<computeraap>on st2 and 3 on motherbooard, have to be honest i alwayes worked with ide so i don't know if master/slave settings are needed here and if that is a mather of pin connectors (1,2,3,4)
12:16<computeraap>bios sees them btw and also onboard raid controller (turned it off, is a complete no go)
12:16<wandor>RRRRRRRR :))))
12:16<Torsten_W>computeraap: what i will know, is it sata or ide?
12:16<computeraap>it's all sata
12:16<Torsten_W>computeraap: which kernel?
12:16<fxiny>i have to keep on chopping trees soon capslockky , so do you best to entertain me :P
12:17<computeraap>office:/# uname -r
12:17<remdolt> /kick ~!*!@ (reason: CAPSLOCK)
12:17<fxiny>enouf: you know what i'm talking about ;)
12:17<Torsten_W>computeraap: paste the output of lspci | grep -i sata
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12:18<computeraap>Torsten_W > no output given
12:18*wandor gives more troll food
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12:18<Torsten_W>computeraap: then paste lspci
12:18<wandor>munchie munchie there andare
12:18<remdolt>who runs debhelper?
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12:19<Torsten_W>computeraap: u should use a version with an newer kernel
12:19<maddash>argh, I followed the instructions at, and still, my traffic gets concentrated on eth0
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12:20<computeraap>well, i couldn't download any testing builds
12:20<computeraap>so i didn't know if there is
12:20<Lenhix>Any ideas on this error: utils/net_ads.c:ads_startup(289) ads_connect: Interrupted system call when doing net ads join -S WIN_DOMAIN -U admin_user?
12:20<Torsten_W>computeraap: why testing?
12:20<Lenhix>Could I be missing a library?
12:20<Torsten_W>computeraap: you can use R4
12:20<computeraap>this is, with the a update
12:20<Torsten_W>computeraap: there is a newer kernel
12:20<computeraap>ok i will try to update to a standard kernel image
12:20<Torsten_W>computeraap: with this kernel u can do nothing
12:21<maddash>all my "ip {route|link|rule|addr} output:
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12:21<fxiny>!ops andare annoying ppl
12:21<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: fxiny complains about: andare annoying ppl
12:21<Torsten_W>computeraap: for modern hardware u must use a actual kernel
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12:21<wandor>oh andare you are my new god :D
12:21<wandor>please talk some more :))))
12:21<azeem>wandor: please try to be a bit constructive
12:22<computeraap>wich kernel is out there above 2.6?
12:22<wandor>azeem like what? not feed the troll? :)
12:22<azeem>wandor: like.
12:22<azeem>andare: please don't write in all caps
12:22<Torsten_W>computeraap: i think, with 2.6.24 the chances are greater
12:22<wandor>azeem, k.
12:22<azeem>andare: if you don't have further Debian questions, please either keep quiet or leave
12:22<kloeri>andare: stop trolling
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12:22<Torsten_W>computeraap: better would be .25 or .26
12:23<computeraap>do i have to do this manualy? because the netinstall cd is 40r4a and i used that
12:23<computeraap>ah boot26 at the install prompt?
12:23<computeraap>is that it?
12:23<computeraap>or bs :P
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12:24<azeem>andare: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being off topic and writing in all caps
12:24<lieven>can someone help me a bit with chmod....
12:24<maddash>any thoughts on my split access problem?
12:24<azeem>andare: please try to be more cooperative in the future
12:24<remdolt>so who programmed debhelper? why no triggers for a caps lock?
12:25<lieven>i want to set the permissions for a folder, but i guess i dont really understand the syntax of the command.
12:25<azeem>remdolt: because not every social problem needs a technical solution
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12:28<Torsten_W>lieven: the manpage should tell you the syntax
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12:33<roy>hello anyone there
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12:39<Pryon>roy: do you have a different question?
12:39<roy>we got a problem on debian
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12:39<roy>it wont load graphical interface
12:40<roy>on vnc all we can see is a gray screen
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12:40<computeraap>then x works
12:40<computeraap>install a window manager
12:40<roy>on localcomputer theres no graphic at all just terminal
12:40<roy>help how to do it?
12:40<computeraap>apt-get install gnome
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12:40<computeraap>then edit /home/.vnc/can't remeber file
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12:41<computeraap>so it will default start gnome
12:41<roy>we got x win installed, its not loading tho
12:41<computeraap>forget the vnc, i thought you were remote
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12:42<roy>i am
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12:42<roy>dling gnome now
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12:42<computeraap>here you go
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12:43<roy>hmm i dont get that, can u help me out? i`m rly new to linux
12:44<computeraap>when you've installed gnome
12:44<roy>i`ll let u no
12:44<computeraap>edit the file in /home/<user>/.vnc/xstartup
12:44<computeraap>and add gnome-session &
12:45<computeraap>but i can't tell you for sure because i'm not running anything above at the moment
12:45<roy>so cmedit /home/root/.vnc/xstartup right?
12:45<computeraap>if that's your editor, yes
12:45<computeraap>btw it's insecure to run a vnc as root, because the weak vnc password can give you root access
12:45<roy>will i need to reload vnc? cuz no1s at computer place, i got putty running thou
12:46<computeraap>vncserverkill :1 or somehting
12:46<computeraap>for the current x session to end
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12:46<roy>how do i find which session am i using
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12:47<computeraap>pfoe can't remember
12:47<computeraap>just killall vnc then
12:48<roy>k, gnome still not done yet, connections slow
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12:53<remdolt>is it possible to have mouse support while logged in to the console?
12:53<computeraap>Torsten_W it worked, thnx
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12:54<newsense>remdolt: get gpm
12:54<Torsten_W>computeraap: be lucky ;)
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12:55<roy>my xstartup says...
12:55<roy>xsetroot -solid grey
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12:56<roy>x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$vncdesktop Desktop" &
12:56<roy>x-window-manager &
12:56<roy>Should i delete anything?
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12:57<computeraap>replace the last line
12:57<computeraap> gnome-session &
12:57<sujith>Hi, I have a doubt regarding deb package creation for clamav. Actually I need to compile clamav with the --enable-unrar.
12:57<sujith>Can anyone help me?
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12:59<remdolt>newsense: thx
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12:59<roy>computerrap how do i kill the vncserver process
12:59<roy>killall vnc wont work
13:00<roy>tried killall vncserver doesnt either, says no process killed
13:00<cahoot>pgrep vnc turns up anything?
13:00<roy>all grey
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13:01<roy>i`m using tightnvc btw
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13:02<computeraap>try killall tightvnc
13:02<computeraap>but it should not mather
13:02<computeraap>you can start a new session and connect to it
13:02<computeraap>will have another display number
13:03<enouf>fxiny: ! porbs !
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13:03<roy>killall tightvnc didnt either, how do i start another session
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13:03<computeraap>how did you start the excisting one?
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13:05<roy>typed vncserver
13:05<computeraap>then do that again
13:05<roy>noq i session 2
13:05<roy>on vnc viewer on windows do i need to specify a session
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13:09<computeraap>connect to ipaddress:2
13:10<roy>damnit still all grey
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13:10<roy>window title root`s X desktop (user:2)
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13:12<computeraap>you edited /root/.vnc/xstartup right?
13:13<fxiny>enouf: i'm doing the stanislavski hacking method : literally :P
13:13<roy>changed that line w gnome-session
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13:14<computeraap>ic, remove the first line with blabla -setgray, don't know what it does
13:14<computeraap>or just remove everything except the line added
13:14<roy>lemme upload a print to show how it is
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13:14<computeraap>it's probably grey whit a big black X as a pointer
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13:16<computeraap>empty the xstartup except of the last line you added
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13:18<roy>how do i backup this file first in case it fucks?
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13:18<computeraap>cp xstartup xstartup.bkp
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13:20<roy>still same thing on session 3
13:21<roy>without black cursor now
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13:21<computeraap>you run the vncserver command as root?
13:21<computeraap>to start a session?
13:21<roy>i didnt do su root
13:21<roy>i`m on putty
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13:22<roy>cardsallday is my user so cardsallday:~/
13:22<computeraap>well we just edited the xstartup file for the root user
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13:22<roy>so su root and then vncserver?
13:23<roy>same with cursor back
13:23<computeraap>ok i can't help you much further
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13:24<roy>lemme restart pc
13:24<roy>shutdown -r now right?
13:24<computeraap>won't mather
13:26<roy>restarting it so can start new clean sessions
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13:27<computeraap>it will read the xstartup file everytime you start a new session
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13:29<roy>shit yea still same shit
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13:31<roy>any idea whats causing that?
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13:33<computeraap>try to do the above thing under a normal user
13:34<computeraap>and also edit the right xstartup for that specific user
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13:38<roy>no way by root?
13:38<roy>i just got root access
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13:42<computeraap>you can add a regular user if you have root access
13:42<computeraap>useradd xxxx
13:42<computeraap>or adduser, don't know
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13:42<computeraap>what is it you want to do on that machine anyway
13:43<roy>i need load my terminals with my server
13:43<computeraap>because it's all quite basic
13:43<computeraap>are your terminals are belong to us
13:43<roy>gotta take oracle up listener, then 1 terminal w erlang an 1 terminal with jboss
13:43<computeraap>just use screen
13:43<roy>yeah i use default debian etch terminal
13:44<roy>i dont know how since i just work through windows graphic
13:44<computeraap>with screen you can make several terminals, give them names and connect to them
13:44<computeraap>try google for linux screen command
13:44<roy>yeah i need 2 terminals open
13:44<roy>any way i can load it without graphic interface?
13:45<roy>can u help me to get it
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13:45<computeraap>apt-get install screen
13:45<roy>i have screen
13:46<roy>i tried screen -r before it said theres a screen on 3576.pts-o.cardsallday (attached)
13:46<computeraap>you're in a new terminal now, start your program, when it runs hit <ctrl>+<a>+<d>
13:46<computeraap>no matter
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13:47<computeraap>or well yes, you can give your screens names
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13:47<roy>ctrl atl d gets me a new terminal or what
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13:47<computeraap>it goes back to your console
13:47<computeraap>where you were before you entered screen
13:47<computeraap>go check the manual
13:47<computeraap>good luck
13:47<rostedt>hi all, I just hosed a box of mine. I have a pxe server, I was wondering if there's a debian rescue vmlinux/initrd image somewhere that I could use to load over the network?
13:48<rostedt>it's an old laptop, and it does not want to boot from CDROM, but can boot from network
13:49<roy>how can i open a .txt file here?
13:49<zett>how to mount disk as a root ?
13:49<cahoot>like mount /dev/<dev> /mnt/mntpoint?
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13:50<rostedt>ah, I think I found them
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13:51<zett>its media/sda1
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13:51<cahoot>zett: you mean /dev/sda1?
13:51<zett>this disk i want mount
13:51<cahoot>zett: so mount /dev/sda1 /media
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13:52<cahoot>zett: or possibly better mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk1
13:52<zett>can't find /dev/sda1/media in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
13:52<cahoot>provided /media/disk1 is created/exists
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13:52<zett>its windows disk
13:53<cahoot>it the mountpoint /media/disk1
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14:03<zett>how to open
14:03<zett> /dev/win ?
14:03<zett>in konqueror ?
14:03<zett>as a root ?
14:04<cahoot>you confuse devices and mounted filesystem
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14:05<zett>what ?
14:05<zett>i have now mounted disk
14:05<zett>but how to open locked folder ?
14:05<zett>as root ?
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14:06<cahoot>zett: create a mountpoint like /media/disk1 (mkdir /media/disk1) - then mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk1 and point konqueror to /media/disk1
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14:07<cahoot>zett: now - if tis is a ntfs disk other problems might need consideration
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14:08<zett>cahoot but i must be root when i want enter to disk sda1
14:09<zett>and dev/win is locked
14:09<cahoot>zett: you don't read or understand what you read
14:09<roy>computerrap can u give me a lilhelp again?
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14:10<roy>i got a to load 1 of my terminals i need but how can i switch to another one without closing my first one
14:10<zett>cahoot yes i dont understand :(
14:10<roy>cuz when i load my commands the terminal doesnt get free, it keeps like loaded with server so i cant execute screen commands
14:10<dpkg>cuz is, like, you mean because?, or an affectionate name for your cousin (or cousin, according to dvs).
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14:11<valdyn>roy: man bash or try ctrl-z and the fg command
14:11<computeraap>go out of the screen with <ctrl><a><d>
14:11<cahoot>zett: do you know what kind of filesystem your windows disk uses?
14:11<computeraap>reconnect with screen -x or screen -r
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14:13<zett>cahoot so ?
14:13<cahoot>zett: try this:
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14:14<cahoot>zett: unless you're content with reading from the disk
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14:15<zett>i dont want write anyhting to NTFS
14:15<zett>i want copy from NTFS
14:15<zett>to /home
14:15<cahoot>zett: then I suppose this should do: create a mountpoint like /media/disk1 (mkdir /media/disk1) - then mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk1 and point konqueror to /media/disk1
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14:15<zett>cahoot my disk is now mounted BUT I CANT ENTER TO DISK
14:15<zett>say permission denied
14:16<cahoot>zett: and where is it mounted?
14:16<zett>i do what do you say
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14:17<ramoonas>hi guys
14:17<ramoonas>does anybody knows if there is an utility for linux to scan the surface of the hard disk drive while the system is running?
14:17<zett>cahoot i need to be logged as root but i dont know how to do it ...
14:17<cahoot>zett: so what's the output from ls -ld /media/disk1?
14:18<zett>say no such file or directory
14:18<zett>ok cahoot :-D
14:19<zett>how to read disk in console ?
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14:22<zett>aaaaa please :-D
14:23<cahoot>zett: I've exhausted my knowledge
14:23<christoph>Is there any way to replace an ip in the addres field by the domainname ....using http forwarding?
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14:25<zett>omg none can me help
14:25<christoph>what do you mean with read disk in console? dir /mnt/foo?
14:25<zett>i want only copy some files from ntfs to /home
14:26<christoph>cp /mnt/myntfs/foo ~/bar
14:26<zett>say this error
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14:27<christoph>zett... >> man << is usefull!
14:27<christoph>ah zett... owner of /mnt/win is?
14:28<christoph>and user in this windowmanger is?
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14:28<zett>not root :-D
14:28<cahoot>look he's mounted it on /dev/win
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14:28<zett>I CANT logg as root on windowmanager
14:28<zett>because i dont know how
14:28<christoph>i know...
14:29<christoph>you know a root terminal?
14:29<christoph>start konquerer as root .. using a root terminal
14:30<christoph>should solve your problem
14:30<zett>how start konqeror as root ? :-D
14:31<christoph>open a root terminal
14:31<christoph>type konquerer & .. hit return
14:32<christoph>rember: not every terminal is a root terminal
14:32<christoph>remember ^^
14:32<zett>I use super user terminal
14:32<zett>but thank you
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14:33<christoph>why the hell does : display the adress as its ip ... i hate forwarding
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14:35<zett>it says
14:36<zett>debian:~# Konqueror &
14:36<zett>-su: Konqueror: command not found
14:36<zett>[1] 3356
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14:36<christoph>use tab completition
14:36<weasel>you don't want to run konqueror as root anyway.
14:37<christoph>better to chown -R zett /mnt/win ?
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14:37<christoph>he only wants to copy.. and ntfs is mounted as read only
14:37<weasel>use ntfs-g3 or whatever it's called?
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14:37<zett>only copy i want
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14:39<christoph>use cp zett :D
14:39<zett>doesnt work
14:39<zett>cp ? :-D
14:39<christoph>man cp
14:39<zett>aaah say full command xD
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14:39<christoph>cp source dest
14:40<christoph>type : man cp
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14:40<christoph>and hit "q" to exit the man(ual)
14:40<zett>what happend ?
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14:40<zett>nothig..still cant read my disk xD
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14:46<svend>'aptitude unhold linux-image-2.6.18-6-686' isn't having any effect.
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14:50<svend>Still looking for a workaround for Etch, though.
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15:31<cahoot>mount -a?
15:31<Maulkin>What about it?
15:32<cahoot>wrong channelwindow
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17:26<drone77>i've been trying to configure my logitech z10's to work (usb speakers), when i change the device number in ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf to the one corresponding to the z10's alsamixer recognises and changes the volume of them but i can get no output from them, running speaker-test gives errors
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17:33<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>can you help me with DBD::mysql?
17:34<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>[FATAL]* Called from main(189)->PS::DB(118)->PS::DB::mysql(43) >>>
17:34<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>Error connecting to database using dsn "DBI:mysql:database=psychostats3_1;host=localhost;port=80":
17:34<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
17:34<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>why i have that problem?
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18:03<witte>sorry buffoon, typing mistake, in the wrong window
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18:20<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>where i can download mysql without
18:20<lucas_amorim>hello, I am having trouble installing debian. When it is installing the base system it gives me this error in a red screen: "Base system installation error: The deboostrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details" ..
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18:21<lucas_amorim>When I look at console 4 I see a lot of "EXT3-fs error (device sda1) in ext3_mkdir: IO Failure
18:22<lucas_amorim>also "EXT3-fs error (device sda1) in ext3_new_inode: IO Failure"
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18:23<lucas_amorim>and one line saying: debootstrap: tar: can't open './etc/debian_version' read on ly file system
18:23<lucas_amorim>what is happening and what should I do???
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18:28<lucas_amorim>anyone has any clue of what is it?
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18:28<infinitycircuit>lucas_amorim, it seems like its having trouble consistently copying the system
18:29<infinitycircuit>lucas_amorim, you should check to make sure you have a good burn/the cd rom is getting enough voltage/your hd isn't bad
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18:30<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: are you using debian?
18:30<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: if you are, just install it using aptitude or synaptik
18:30<witte>!install mysql
18:30<dpkg>To install the mysql server, "aptitude install mysql-server". You might also want to "aptitude install php5-mysql" and ask me about <install apache2><install php>. Also check out the phpmyadmin package.
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18:31<lucas_amorim>ok thank you
18:31<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>witte i using debian but i want to install it without synaptic
18:31<infinitycircuit>lucas_amorim, i had very similar problems with a usb cd rom that was hooked up to a 3.3v instead of a 5.0v usb
18:31<lucas_amorim>seems the md5sum of the image i am using is a bit different
18:31<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: why
18:32<infinitycircuit>lucas_amorim, bad download then
18:32<lucas_amorim>yes, I am going to download it again
18:32<lucas_amorim>thank you for the tip
18:32<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>witte because i would know how to install mysql
18:33<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: on debian, you install stuff by doing aptitude install mysql-sever
18:33<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: in command line
18:34<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>okey thank you ;-)
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18:34<witte>if you want to compile from source, download the source, and read the README or INSTALL files
18:34<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: synaptic is in fact just a frontend to apt (just as aptitude is)
18:36<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>witte yeah i get it
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19:00<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>witte how i start mysql?
19:00<dpkg>i heard mysql is A fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It supports a wide range of advanced functionality such as views, transaction support, recovery functionality etc. It is the world's most popular open source database. The database is packed as 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'. Futher information can be found at and #mysql and #debian-mysql (on OFTC).
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19:01<witte>lkdfgjdfklgjdf: it should be started automatically
19:02<witte>search for a "debian tutorial mysql" on the web, and i am sure you'll find something that will help you in detail
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19:04<grummund>dhcpd is receiving bootp requests from my adsl router (the lan side), is this normal?
19:04*grummund wonders if dhcpd should be configured to deny bootp
19:05<witte>dpkg: no, mysql is i heard mysql is A fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It supports a wide range of advanced functionality such as views, transaction support, recovery functionality etc. It is the world's most popular open source database. The database is packed as 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'. Futher information can be found at, ht
19:05<witte>tp:// and #mysql and #debian-mysql (on OFTC).
19:05<dpkg>okay, witte
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19:07<witte>dpkg: no mysql is A fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It is the world's most popular open source database. The database is packed as 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'. Futher information can be found at, and #mysql and #debian-mysql (on OFTC). Also ask me about <install mysql>
19:07<dpkg>witte: okay
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19:10<ultraspank>hello i was wondering how many cds would it take burn debian
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19:11<witte>ultraspank: what do you mean exactly?
19:12<freak>h1, can anyone give me any working sources.list for apt? because im getting timeots from today (
19:12<witte>ultraspank: do you want to install debian, and you wonder how many cd's you need to download?
19:12<ultraspank>i want to install debain i wanna know how many cd's it would take
19:12<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc> etch main" and "deb etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
19:12<dpkg>i heard netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but is not required for a base install to complete, see If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso>, or ask me about <check iso image>
19:12<witte>ultraspank: the netinst thing debian told is for you
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19:13<witte>ultraspank: if you have your pc connected to the web when installing, this will be the preferred solution
19:13<freak>i know, but where can i find the newes list of servers
19:13<witte>if you only have wireless, it depends,...
19:13<dpkg>methinks debian mirrors is or | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see or
19:13<dpkg>well, apt-spy is a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using.
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19:13<ultraspank>kk thank you guys
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19:14<ultraspank>downloading now if i have any problems ill come back. come back like the rest of them do muhaha
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19:15<DiJitalWench>re: Lenny Beta2 (Arch amd64); The Update Manager Toolbar Icon tells me there are 7 updates available, but when i open teh manager, it says my system is up to date and there are no available updates. Anyone know why?
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19:16<infinitycircuit>DiJitalWench, it wants to add new packages, so it doesn't show up in a normal upgade. try right-clicking and doing "installl updates" on the icon
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19:18<DiJitalWench>infinitycircuit: thanks
19:19<freak>can anyone explain how to autoload iptables configuration on startup ?
19:20<infinitycircuit>freak, use iptables-save > some file
19:20<infinitycircuit>and then on reboot you can just iptables-restore < that file
19:20<infinitycircuit>it can go in /etc/rc.local
19:20<infinitycircuit>or you can make a /etc/init.d/ script
19:20<dpkg>i guess iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at or it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables ( for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read
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19:21<witte>the last link is for sarge, but i think there will still be some useful info in it
19:21<freak><infinitycircuit> thanks)
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19:22<freak>is every script in /etc/init.d/ automatically executed on start?
19:22<infinitycircuit>freak, no, you must add them to /etc/rcX.d with update-rc.d
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19:23<freak>oh i see
19:24<computeraap>i installed samba, created some shares but have troubles with the homeshares, i can't login to them (user is same as windows user and password, created with smbpasswd -a <user> as root, also restarted, did this couple of times but no effect)
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19:29<computeraap>nvm fixed
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19:34<freak>i ments ty^^
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19:35<freak>omg cant make apt work
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19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list experimental/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list entch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list experimental/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list experimental/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
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19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list experimental/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list entch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list experimental/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
19:35<freak>W: Couldn't stat source package list experimental/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ - stat (2 No such file or directory)
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19:35<Comedy\deb><vorlon> i have 3 world class os releases to my credit you little worm
19:35<Comedy\deb>and now he is tagging a chick like helix!
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19:36<freak>can anyone send to me a complete sources.list for etche cause my doesnt work (
19:37<Myon>it's only two lines, ask google
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19:39<ultraspank>i got a bit a problem when i put in the cd to install debian
19:39<ultraspank>ummm nvm
19:39<Nemoder>freak: did you remember to apt-get update?
19:39<ultraspank>as soon as i press enter it started working
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19:39<freak>omg im an idot they do not work because i blocked them with iptables ((
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19:41<henry>citrix for debian etch
19:41<henry>know this aplication
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19:45<karsten_>I wonder if anyone can tell me how to produce kernel packages that can put into a repository. is it more or less exactly the same as normal packages? I just wonder how to come up with .changes file to use for dput
19:46<karsten_>or how its done...
19:46<peterS>you can use make-kpkg
19:46<peterS>does that not produce a .changes file?
19:46<karsten_>peterS: not that I can see
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19:48<karsten_>peterS: it comes up with debs for me, but not .changes file
19:48<peterS>I believe you're right
19:49<karsten_>hm, strange no? how is it done in main-debian, do you know?
19:49<henry>citrix for debian etch
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19:49<henry>please configuration
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19:50<henry>the instalation is complete but no found
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19:50<henry>help me
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19:51<ultraspank>the installer is not detecting my cd rom drive what should i do
19:53<henry>yes abrotman
19:53<henry>the aplication open the .ICA
19:53<henry>files web
19:53<henry>know this package
19:54<henry> Citrix XenApp
19:54<abrotman>i didn't even know you could use the citrix client on linux .. though i never tried
19:54<henry>name of this Citrix XenApp
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19:55<abrotman>so uh .. yeah .. guess i wouldn't be much help
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19:55<henry>tanks you
19:56<ultraspank>the installer is not detecting my cd rom drive what should i do?
19:56<henry>go the study this theme and the publication
19:56<henry>abrotman tanks
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20:12<simonrvn>henry: "thanks"
20:12<henry>i am latin
20:12<henry>excuse me
20:13<simonrvn>s'ok dude
20:13<henry>help me
20:13<henry>with my problem
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20:13<simonrvn>i don't do citrix either, sorry (don't know what that is...)
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20:14<henry>umm no problem
20:15<ultraspank>the installer is not detecting my cd rom drive what should i do?
20:15<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: Installation instructions: See also, or <etchnhalf facts>
20:15<stricken>can someone help me? i need to download a plugin to play a game but im not sure how, it says click here to download plug in but its not working when i click it, it works on my other pc whats on xp
20:16<ultraspank>will try that
20:16<stricken>im on debian OS and i have Epiphany web browser
20:17<simonrvn>stricken: flash maybe?
20:17<stricken>im wanting to go on runescape
20:17<stricken>how do you install it? on xp so easy u just click it lol
20:17<stricken>im still new to linux
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20:18<simonrvn>probably won't work on linux, unless they have something for it.... otherwise use wine
20:18<dpkg>hmm... wine is packaged in the 'wine' package., #winehq ( Stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. A buggy alternative win32 API, or a tasty alcoholic beverage.
20:18<simonrvn>!wine =~ s,buggy,not so buggy anymore,
20:18<dpkg>OK, simonrvn
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20:19<stricken>is there another way its just a web browser game
20:19<stricken>roll playing
20:20<ultraspank>is it runescape
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20:20<stricken>ive tryed clicking tools > extensions > java console but nothing comes up
20:20<stricken>yeah its runescape
20:20<simonrvn>i don't know, i don't know it...
20:20<simonrvn>ah java applet.. ok
20:20<simonrvn>!non-free sources
20:20<dpkg>it has been said that non-free sources is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then aptitude update. But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses.
20:20<stricken>just a plug in it says i need to download
20:20<simonrvn>do that first ^^^
20:20<simonrvn>then install the java plugin from aptitude
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20:22<stricken>umm how
20:22<stricken>how do you ensure the two debian mirror lines end with main contrib free?
20:22<simonrvn>you run an editor to edit sources.list, then run aptitude as root...
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20:23<stricken>thanks ill try
20:23<stricken>umm 1 questiom
20:24<stricken>is it bad having it on the java plugin etc as in for security
20:24<ultraspank>i think if you are not hosting a website with java on it you will be fine
20:24<abrotman>uh what?
20:25<stricken>ok thanks ultra
20:25<abrotman>stricken: ignore him .. what he said makes no sense
20:25<stricken>nothing, just i know having java and javascript can be bad
20:26<stricken>if your visiting a certain website for example you can be vunrable to an attack
20:26<stricken>i forgot what kind of hack it is
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20:31<lkdfgjdfklgjdf>someone who have counter-strike 1.6 server under debian?
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20:35<eljefe>What options do I have if {K/G/X}randr doesn't work, to rotate my desktop or at least Firefox (Iceweasel) ? My graphics card is old on this laptop and I want to repurpose it; I need to rotate the screen or an app or X in order to do what I want with it (kitchen recipe display screen)
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20:38<stricken>it wont let me edit the sources.list says i do not have permission?
20:38<stricken>do i have to login to debian as root to change it?
20:38<witte>stricken: you need to be root to do that
20:38<stricken>ok thanks
20:38<witte>stricken: you can use su or sudo
20:39<witte>don't log in as root (at least not graphical)
20:39<DiJitalWench>Where are windohs files put when installed by wine?
20:40<eljefe>witte: are you on KDE or Gnome? or something else?
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20:40<witte>DiJitalWench: ~/.wine/drive_c/
20:40<witte>eljefe: something else :-); windowmaker
20:40<eljefe>can you work a command line? vim or nano?
20:40<witte>eljefe: maybe you could ask on #xorg on
20:40<witte>eljefe: me?
20:40<DiJitalWench>witte: how can i find that in the file directory tree?
20:40<eljefe>witte thanks I shall try that
20:41<witte>DiJitalWench: in console: cd ~/.wine
20:41<eljefe>DiJitalWench: what app are you using to find that directory?
20:41<DiJitalWench>witte: terminal OR File Browser ...
20:42<eljefe>DiJitalWench try just typing it in
20:42<eljefe>or, in terminal, cd .....
20:42<witte>DiJitalWench: terminal or console, whatever. ~ is your home directory
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20:43<DiJitalWench>witte: returns no such directory
20:43<witte>DiJitalWench: the . before .wine makes it invisible, maybe that is not included in your file manager
20:43<witte>DiJitalWench: did you first do "wine installer.exe"
20:43<DiJitalWench>witte: nevermind ,.... took a long search (500GB drive) but the browser finally found it
20:43<witte>DiJitalWench: with installer.exe of course the correct name
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20:44<witte>DiJitalWench: where was it?
20:44<DiJitalWench>witte: /media/disk/Program Files
20:45<DiJitalWench>witte: eh hang on that's another disk .. crap
20:45<eljefe>DiJitalWench dod you tell it to instal lthere?
20:45<witte>DiJitalWench: strange, maybe you selected something special during install
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20:45<witte>DiJitalWench: what are you installing?
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20:45<Guest1460>im having problem of my isntalltion not detecting my cd rom drive
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20:46<DiJitalWench>witte: NWN2
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20:46<witte>DiJitalWench: a game?
20:46<DiJitalWench>witte: yes
20:46<Guest1460>says cant mount my cd rom drive or something?
20:47<DiJitalWench>witte: been eons since i've used wine, and i forgot where it creates the "C:" drive
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20:47<witte>DiJitalWench: I doubt it will run as nicely as you'd like using wine, but i am not sure there are many alternatives unless you use vmware or so
20:47<infinitycircuit>DiJitalWench, ~/.wine
20:47<witte>DiJitalWench: well, on my disk it is ~/.wine/drive_c
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20:49<Guest1460>i have a problem with my installer says "the installation cd rom couldnt be mounted. this probably means that the cd rom was not in the drive. if so you can insert it and try again i know its in thare
20:50<witte>Guest1460: it might be that the modules for the cdrom player is not loaded, but if it is a plain cdrom player, that is fairly unlikely
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20:50<Guest1460>its a dvd rw
20:50<Guest1460>how do i load the modules
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20:51<zedboy>heh. From the description of the php5-cli package: This package provides the /usr/bin/php5 command interpreter, useful for testing PHP scripts from a shell, or perhaps even performing general shell scripting tasks, if you're frightened of perl and python.
20:52<witte>Guest1460: that is not that uncommon, is it a laptop? or is the drive a sata drive?
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20:52<Guest1460>its a ide dvd rw and its a desktop
20:53<witte>Guest1460: which installer do you use?
20:53<witte>Guest1460: maybe try the lenny installer?
20:53<Guest1460>i tryed both
20:54<Guest1460>can i have a link to the lenny one i guess
20:54<stricken>can someone tell me which are the two main debian mirror lines in sources.list i have 5 lines there
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20:55<stricken># deb etch main
20:55<stricken>deb etch main
20:55<stricken>deb-src etch main
20:55<stricken>deb etch/updates main
20:55<stricken>deb-src etch/updates main
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20:55<zedboy>stricken: there only needs to be one, something like "deb etch main contrib non-free"
20:55<witte>stricken: those lines are ok
20:56<witte>teh deb-src lines you probably wont use any time soon
20:56<zedboy>stricken: but keep the security one.
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20:56<stricken>so shall i edit the top one?
20:56<stricken># deb etch main
20:56<witte>stricken: just add "non-free contrib" to all 4 lines
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20:56<witte>stricken: the first line is commented (with #)
20:57<Guest1460>whats the link to the lenny installer? and whare can i find it at
20:57<stricken>should i leave the one with #?
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20:57<witte>Guest1460: i just gave it
20:57<witte>stricken: you can do whatever you want with the line with # as it is a comment (just don't remove # ;-))
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20:58<witte>02:55 <witte>
20:58<Guest1460>thanks sorry about that
20:58<Guest1460>dident see it
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20:59<petterson>how do I "proxy" jboss through using apache (debian distro)
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21:03<remdolt>every time i press a key the system BEEPS. it uses the system speaker, not my audio card.
21:03<remdolt>this is really annoying, any ideas?
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21:06<infinitycircuit>!pcspkr | remdolt
21:07<infinitycircuit>remdolt, echo "blacklist pcspkr" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
21:07<remdolt>hmm. this is only happening while i type in xchat
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21:08<infinitycircuit>remdolt, try System -> Prefs -> Sound
21:08<infinitycircuit>or not
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21:08<remdolt>k. all better
21:08<remdolt>dunno what that was about
21:09<fews>so what is the lenny cd
21:10<infinitycircuit>!lenny beta
21:10<infinitycircuit>wow i have no luck today
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21:11<abrotman>!tell remdolt about beep
21:11<abrotman>!tell remdolt about bell
21:11<fews>what you guys trying to do anyway? !
21:12<remdolt>what u want?
21:12<abrotman>english ?
21:12<fews>i dont knwo
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21:14<smatt>I'm trying to set up a kerberos server, and I'm going by the guide here: , but each time i've tried (on seperate boxes) i get stuck on the kadmind test
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21:15<smatt>the error is: kadmin: Cannot contact any KDC for requested realm while initializing kadmin interface
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21:15<smatt>kadmin.local works fine however
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21:17<smatt>can anyone help me out with this?
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21:20<simonrvn>got your acls going?
21:20<remdolt>smatt: do you have a firewall installed?
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21:25<smatt>simonrvn: I don't have acls yet, this is initial installation
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21:26<smatt>and it's showing the port open if I nmap -sT localhost
21:27<smatt>749/tcp open kerberos-adm
21:27<smatt>correct right?
21:27<smatt>(I'm only using v5)
21:27<petterson>Which is a good way to setup a vpn between windows xp and a debian etch server?
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21:28<smatt>petterson: I always use poptop
21:28<smatt>petterson: they make a nifty webmin module for it too
21:29<petterson>thanks smatt, I'll check
21:29<petterson>is it easy to setup?
21:29<smatt>petterson: yeah, except for there's a specific module you'll need since you're using winders xp.
21:30<smatt>its all in the documentation
21:31<petterson>the is poptop?
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21:32<petterson>I googled it and got pptpd, that is why I asked :)
21:32<petterson>thanks again
21:32<smatt>petterson: point-to-point tunneling protocol daemon.. yup
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21:33<newsense>anyone know of a good doc on setting up an xserver to listen for connections from computers on my lan ?
21:33<smatt>newsense: what kind of connections?
21:34<newsense>remote x connections
21:34<smatt>newsense: have you looked on xorg's website?
21:34<newsense>smatt i read some man pages but not the site
21:34<newsense>ill give it a look
21:35<petterson>thanks smatt
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21:35<newsense>smatt: is remote x the best way to accomplish what im trying to do ?
21:35<petterson>is openswan good?
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21:37<smatt>newsense: you can export the display from the command prompt say if you're ssh'd in, or you can run a vnc server, or you could run something similar to that
21:37<newsense>how do i export display ?
21:37<smatt>petterson: you'll want to use poptop if your vpn clients are using the windows default thingy
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21:38<smatt>newsense: your x server has to allow it first
21:38<newsense>oh ok
21:39<newsense>im on xorgs site but dont see much ill google it thanks
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21:39<dpkg>Ciao! Utilizzi prego #debian-it per aiuto Italiano-orientato. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
21:40<smatt>newsense: google for the $DISPLAY variable
21:40<newsense>smatt: thanks
21:40<smatt>newsense: and xhost authentication
21:40<luigi>someone that control this vsftpd .conf file?
21:41<newsense>ok cool
21:41<luigi>i've problem with my ubuntu distro and no one that know how to help me...
21:41<smatt>newsense: xauth, xdmcp, and r-utilites would also be worth looking at
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21:42<smatt>so anyways... back to my kerberos problem... anybody got an idea of what's wrong?
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21:45<petterson>thanks smatt
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21:46<luigi>if someone help me i assure that i'll install debian instead ubuntu!
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21:55<smatt>simonrvn: if you were talking about the */admin * in the acl, yeah I did
21:55<petterson>smatt, nowadays I'm connecting to my debian server using tightvncserver and ssh tunneling (using keys)
21:55<abrotman>install debian .. then come back .. otherwise ask #ubuntu
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21:55<petterson>smatt: is it possible to use keys with pptd too?
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21:56<smatt>petterson: you must not understand the underlying technology behind vpn
21:56<petterson>lol: for sure
21:56<smatt>petterson: it's an encrypted tunnel, from one network to another...
21:57<smatt>just like your ssh is
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21:57<petterson>and is it possible to use keys to authenticate?
21:58<smatt>petterson: your pptpd will require username/password to connect to it
21:59<smatt>petterson: it doesn't care where it comes from, unless you tell it not to answer unless from specific hosts
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22:02<petterson>smatt: I would like to authenticate using a file in my usb protected by password ...
22:02<petterson>just like I do with ssh, do you think is it possible?
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22:03<smatt>petterson: if you've already got your ssh/vnc setup, why are you looking at pptpd?
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22:06<petterson>smatt: because I would like to use applications as I was in the network
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22:06<petterson>I don't know how to do that using ssh, is it possible?
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22:13<cockroach>hrm, is there an easy way (i.e. some command) to find out the currently used x display driver? or do i have to parse the xorg log file?
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22:17<HelpAttacked>hi guys, I'm trying to learn how to ban IPs in debian using iptables, can you give me a link for a tutorial
22:18<HelpAttacked>for example I want to ban an Ip like this:
22:18<HelpAttacked>iptables -A INPUT -s -j DROP
22:18<HelpAttacked>then I want to save it with: /etc/init.d/iptables save
22:19<HelpAttacked>but /etc/init.d/iptables save gives an error "No such file or directory
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22:30<HelpAttacked>how do i save iptables ind ebian?
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22:34<Nemoder>HelpAttacked: man iptables-save
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23:14<Lucky>How do I switch from using a kernel in Debian Backports to the default Debian Etch kernel? A while back I had to use the Backports kernel because the default etch kernel had a known "oops" that I ran into. I am told that by now etch uses a newer kernel than the one I installed from Backports, so I'd like to get back onto the default.
23:15<Lucky>My Google foo seems low tonight.
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23:16<snogglethorpe>Lucky: be sure you go post a long moaning rant to slashdot about how google sucks now and you feel betrayed
23:16<HelpAttacked>I'm getting a massive DDOS attack on my site, it would be ridiculous to add all ips by hand one by one, any other sugestions?
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23:38<LEO_>what do I need to install and get running: libapache-mod-dosevasive
23:38<LEO_>is apt-get install libapache-mod-dosevasive and restarting apache enough?
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23:46<jello>hi, i need to transcode an ogg vorbis track to mp3; any suggestions for the "right tool" to use?
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