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---Logopened Wed Aug 20 00:00:36 2008
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00:09<cliff>how often is debian software updated?
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00:13<crob>...
00:14<crob>which software u said
00:15<cliff>any
00:16<cliff>how long can debian live without updates?
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00:20<phillipsjk>cilff: they pile up to ~50MB after a few months, if that is what you are asking.
00:21<phillipsjk>In principle, you could run it as long as you want without updates :)
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00:25<m_101>hi there ;)
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00:32<cliff>hi everyone. My amarok refuses to fetch album covers from amazon. What the matter can be?
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00:35<sun>hi i just got a 1tb external seagate usb, and i can't write to it. its formatted in ntfs and /etc/mtab says its rw but even as root i cant do 'touch x'. what am i doing wrong.
00:35<m_101>install ntfs-3g
00:35<m_101>'apt-get install ntfs-3g' in root
00:37<sun>m_101 thanks. i guess i have to reboot now.
00:37<m_101>bye
00:37<m_101>no prob
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01:18<MadHag>hi, I just installed etch and cannot get my 1440*900 screen resolution I have an ati hd2400 card, any ideas?
01:18<MadHag>!ati
01:18<dpkg>To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>.
01:19<MadHag>!fglrx
01:19<dpkg>i guess fglrx is "FireGL and Radeon for X", the proprietary display driver made available by ATI. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner>. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary, #ati @ irc.freenode.net. See also <radeon>.
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01:25<EmleyMoor>I have a laptop with an Intel Pro Wireless 2100 - what do I need to make it work in lenny? (packages if possible)
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01:28<jm_>!ipw2100
01:28<dpkg>ipw2100 is probably the driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 802.11b chipsets (http://ipw2100.sf.net/) included in kernels since 2.6.14. Firmware is required, download from http://ipw2100.sf.net/firmware.php (v1.3 for Etch and later Debian versions) and unextract to /lib/firmware. #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net.
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01:29<EmleyMoor>Do I gather it's now in the linux-image package from that?
01:29<jm_>well do you?
01:30<EmleyMoor>Yes-and-no. That seems to say so but it doesn't appear to be working
01:30<jm_>you need to install firmware
01:31<EmleyMoor>Already there and still wa
01:31<EmleyMoor>was
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01:31<jm_>then load the module
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01:32<EmleyMoor>Still no success - it's not requesting an address
01:33<jm_>first check if it has been successfully detected
01:33<EmleyMoor>How? Everything I know seems to imply nothing has happened at all
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01:35<jm_>dmesg to check what kernel said, ls /sys/class/net
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01:35<EmleyMoor>It was detected and loaded...
01:36<EmleyMoor>eth1 is there
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01:36<jm_>so you probably need to configure it in the interfaces file
01:37<EmleyMoor>jm_: It is configured as per etch - do I need to change it for lenny?
01:40<jm_>EmleyMoor: no, it should work
01:40<EmleyMoor>Well, it doesn't
01:40<jm_>are you saying the card works in etch?
01:40<EmleyMoor>Yes
01:41<jm_>why did you ask about how to get it to work in lenny then?
01:41<EmleyMoor>Because it doesn't work in lenny
01:41<jm_>but how did you make it work in etch then?
01:42<EmleyMoor>Installed appropriate ipw2100 modules package, placed firmware, installed wpa_supplicant with appropriate tags in interfaces
01:43<MadHag>I just downloaded ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run and have prepared it according to the website here http://technowizah.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-ati-drivers.html
01:43<MadHag>will the file to install still be this? udo dpkg -i fglrx-driver_8.37.6-1_i386.deb??
01:43<jm_>hmm then you better wait for someone who actually knows something about using wireless in Linux I suppose
01:43<EmleyMoor>I get the impression they may have changed the requirements on that last point
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01:46<jm_>too bad the wiki mentions gnome/kde way to do the job
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01:57<EmleyMoor>Hmmm.... still not working despite throwing all I can find at it
01:58<jm_>does it work if you configure it with ifconfig?
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02:02<jinstyle7>hello everybody where can i go for french debian forum please
02:02<jinstyle7>?
02:02<jm_>!fr
02:02<dpkg>rumour has it, fr is Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
02:02<jinstyle7>merci thank you
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02:04<EmleyMoor>jm_: No
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02:05<jm_>EmleyMoor: what happens when you do it?
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02:06<EmleyMoor>Nothing much - no messages logged, no ipv4 address...
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02:09<jm_>what do you mean with no address?
02:10<EmleyMoor>ifconfig shows no inet addr line - there is an inet6 addr line, possibly a "default"
02:11<jm_>what was your command line?
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02:12<EmleyMoor>I'll come back to this later - I'm out of time right now
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02:13<jm_>maybe it's worth using iwconfig too
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02:13<EmleyMoor>I do - it shows association with the right wireless network
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02:30<dwarvenking>hello
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02:53<toupeira>hi
02:54<toupeira>anybody know how to disable logging from postfix sasl sql plugin? setting log_level in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf doesn't seem to work
02:54<toupeira>I tried log_level: 3
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02:57<toupeira>log_level: 0 also doesn't work
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03:05<MadHag>fixed my resolution :) ati driver working, sod desktop effects for now, just happy to have a good rez
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03:08<morgan`>hi
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03:09<MadHag>:)
03:10<MadHag>the version of Evolution with etch, cannot use a settings backup file I see!
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03:16<MadHag>ah, you can once the first account is setup and the client running, guess I had it too good in Ubuntu
03:18<MadHag>doesnt seem to work though
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03:25<defrysk>MadHag, maybe you should try lenny, its as good as stable and has a more recent set of packages
03:26<MadHag>its ok now thanks, I have just purchased a dedicated server running etch so I thought I would get used to it on my desktop as well
03:26<defrysk>ok
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03:27<MadHag>desktop effects are not important, just happy I have my 1440*900 rez
03:27<MadHag>actually the howto was very good, all went tickety boo
03:28<defrysk>lenny worked out of the box on my laptop (compaq pressario a900)
03:28<MadHag>I just forgot to tell xorg.conf to use the fglrx driver, once I did that it was fine
03:28<defrysk>ok
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03:30<MadHag>I backed up my evolution email settings in Ubuntu but the file does not seem to work in etch's evolution?
03:31<s_i_m>version mismatch?
03:31<MadHag>must be
03:31<MadHag>no error message though
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03:32<MadHag>bit of a pain as I have loads of email accounts
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03:32<s_i_m>well, if your ubuntu setup works just fine then just keep it
03:32<s_i_m>no need to change
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03:34<mossberg>so what happens if i add a sid repo to my sources and install a package. could that harm my system or cause problems?
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03:34<s_i_m>mossberg, your current system is etch, right?
03:34<mossberg>yeah
03:35<s_i_m>then you will likely get a lot of problems
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03:35<s_i_m>you will need to upgrade some system libs and so on
03:36<s_i_m>better search for a backport of that package
03:37<mossberg>wait. lemme just be clear about that. add ONE specific source for the needed package. aptitude update. grab package. remove repository from list. aptitude update.
03:38<s_i_m>mossberg, that package will depend on some other packages from unstable
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03:39<s_i_m>mossberg, what is the package btw?
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03:40<s_i_m>the name?
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04:03<n3wbi3>hello. subkeys.pgp.net is broken, somebody knows any other server to get keys for debian etch?
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04:08<s_i_m>n3wbi3, not sure why you need it. Do you have debian-archive-keyring installed?
04:10<n3wbi3>s_i_m: i don't think so
04:10<weasel>how is subkeys problem?
04:10<weasel>how is subkeys broken?
04:10<n3wbi3>so is it just "apt-get install debian-keyring" ?
04:11<n3wbi3>weasel: idk
04:11<s_i_m>debian-keyring is for developer's keys
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04:11<n3wbi3>s_i_m: hum
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04:12<Guest2604>labert hier jemand deutsch
04:12<n3wbi3>s_i_m: i need the keys for TOR but i don't know where to find
04:12<jm_>nein
04:12<Guest2604>dann halt nich
04:13<s_i_m>n3wbi3, that is another story
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04:14<n3wbi3>s_i_m: i finally made it. thx for helping (;
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04:15<Guest2604>???
04:15-!-m4rm0tt4 [~user@host26-163-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
04:15<Guest2604>so what
04:16<s_i_m>!de
04:16<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de)
04:16<MadHag>!welsh
04:16<dpkg>Tom Jones
04:16<MadHag>lol
04:17<Guest2604>ach ich hab 0 ahnung ..teste hier ne knoppix live cd ......
04:18<MadHag>nien
04:18<jm_>!knoppix
04:18<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equiv for publishing live systems.
04:19<Guest2604>is ja gut...und tschüß
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04:26<superjet_busy>!sidux
04:26<dpkg>sidux is probably <Debian based> (sid) live distro with special focus on clean and easy hard disk install. [from http://sidux.com/Article2.html] It's <OT> in #debian. Please /join #sidux (on <oftc>).
04:28<MadHag>is oftc new?
04:29<Gekz>no.
04:29<MadHag>ah, just browsing the website
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04:32<dwarvenking>#tdo_secure
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04:35*Shadowdancer builds yet another 2.6.26.2 kernel with a lot of debugging options enabled :-(
04:37<MadHag>any reason why starting root term takes a while?
04:37<dwarvenking>like how?
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04:38<dwarvenking>slow computer
04:38<MadHag>its a quite a good pc
04:39<MadHag>3gb mem and a amd64 dual
04:39<Shadowdancer>using some non-local login scheme like LDAP?
04:39<MadHag>when I choose root term from the menu it starts but shows 2 instances of it
04:40<MadHag>normal setup
04:40<Shadowdancer>hum. What happens when you log in as root on a console?
04:40<Shadowdancer>terminal* whatever
04:40<MadHag>one says term and the other starting root term, takes about 20 seconds in all
04:40<Shadowdancer>the textmode stuff :-)
04:40<MadHag>gulp
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04:41<MadHag>rapid at a text console
04:41<Shadowdancer>OK, so at least PAM seems to be alright
04:41<Shadowdancer>and I'm out of ideas :-)
04:41<MadHag>ok thanks
04:42<dwarvenking>perhaps see what running under system monitor
04:42<Shadowdancer>does sudo work alright as well?
04:43<MadHag>yes sudo is ok
04:43<jm_>maybe find out what that actually starts
04:43<Guest2606>where could i find my firewall settings, please?
04:44<petemc>Guest2606: what firewall have you installed?
04:44<Guest2606>none
04:44<petemc>theres your answer
04:44<dwarvenking>lol
04:44<Guest2606>lol
04:44<Guest2606>i used to run openSuse
04:44<dwarvenking>u can dl a firewall though frestarter
04:45<Guest2606>It installs f/w out of the box
04:45<dwarvenking>firestarter*
04:45<MadHag>I used SuSE for years
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04:45<Guest2606>so u mean knoppix does not install fw out of the box?
04:46<petemc>most people here wouldnt know what knoppix does, you would need to ask #knoppix
04:46<Shadowdancer>I can't stand the ultra-long index finger on the "hand" mouse pointer in SuSE :-D
04:46<petemc>probably on freenode
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04:46<Guest2606>sorry, i mean debian :)
04:46<Shadowdancer>morning pumpkin0
04:46<MadHag>what did it say before you clicked 'install' usually you have options to change a few things
04:47<MadHag>just a end user here btw, not sysadmin or anything
04:47<pumpkin0>Shadowdancer: why are you in #debian ??
04:47<Shadowdancer>pumpkin0: ask my IRC client
04:47<pumpkin0>what did you nuke ?
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04:47<Shadowdancer>I'm in 3 networks and 5 channels
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04:48<Shadowdancer>did you read about the Flash exploit (clipboard hijacking) that's now apparently being abused in the wild?
04:48<jm_>what can tehy do? steal contents of clipboard?
04:49<pumpkin0>Shadowdancer: yes. I don't see a problem with that, my flash-plugin crashs on startup ...
04:49<MadHag>they are welcome to mine, its usually empty
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04:50<MadHag>actually who ever invented the clipboard is a genius
04:50<Shadowdancer>jm_: a Flash object in an open browser can lock the clipboard to always contain some specific content, e.g. an URL for something malicious
04:50<Shadowdancer>http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733
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04:50<jm_>ahh I was hoping they'd steal contents of mine and I would always have www.goatse.cz in it
04:50<Shadowdancer>also has a demo which locks the clipboard to http://www.evil.com
04:50<MadHag>that looks a bad url
04:50<jm_>yeah that's the URL I was gonna read this morning but can't access zdnet.com at work (for whatever reason)
04:51<Shadowdancer>demo is at http://raffon.net/research/flash/cb/test.html (the clipboard will be locked as long as the page is open)
04:51<MadHag>you would have to be crazy to visit a url like that anyway
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04:52*MadHag makes a coffee
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04:54<Guest2606>one more trivial question. How can i open the Network GUI. I tried to login as the root but received "Not allowed to log in as root" msg?
04:55<Shadowdancer>cool, that kernel crashes pretty much instantly
04:57<Shadowdancer>there's a network GUI?
04:58<Guest2606>yep, it's under System
04:58<Guest2606>But I can not lauch it
04:59<MadHag>ok for me
04:59<Guest2606>"you are not allowed to access the system configuration" pops up
04:59<MadHag>'network admin' you mean
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05:00<Guest2606>may be it is for a network admin but I am on a standalone internet connected box
05:00<MadHag>so am I
05:01<Guest2606>MadHag, could u please talk me through to setting up my firewall, please?
05:02<Guest2606>i got no clue as to where to start, man
05:03<MadHag>I am new to Debian
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05:03<MadHag>have you look at the info on the website
05:03<MadHag>do you have a router?
05:03<anonissimus>rtfm
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05:03<Guest2606>nope
05:03<Guest2606>yep i do have a router
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05:04<Guest2606>i see what u mean
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05:04<MadHag>you probably stealthed anyway, try a test at shields up website
05:05<MadHag>!firewall
05:05<dpkg>firewall is probably a boundary (usually a computer or network apliance) between your private network and the public internet. see gibraltar, or a firewall can't protect the computer it's running on, or check out http://www.sf.net/projects/shellter for an iptables-based firewall with built-in ssh brute force protection
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05:08<MadHag>Guest2606, go to synaptic manager and do a search on 'firewall' lots of stuff to look at and install there
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05:11<Guest2606>thanks, MadHag, do appreciate it
05:11<Guest2606>take care then
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05:12<MadHag>luv him :)
05:16<Shadowdancer>pumpkin0: no, magic SysRq doesn't help
05:17<pumpkin0>Shadowdancer: you will get there. gtg
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05:17<jm_>Shadowdancer: why are you using debug kernel?
05:18<Shadowdancer>jm_: because kernels after 2.6.21 or 2.6.22 tend to just freeze solid on two of my systems, and I'd like to know why the hell they're doing that
05:19<jm_>Shadowdancer: no oops?
05:19<Shadowdancer>nope
05:19<Shadowdancer>just a solid freeze
05:19<s_i_m>Shadowdancer, at what stage?
05:20<Shadowdancer>after just sitting there for some while
05:20<Shadowdancer>doesn't depend on X running
05:20<s_i_m>have you tested your RAM?
05:21<Shadowdancer>I probably should, but it's doing the same thing on a system that is running perfectly fine on older kernels
05:21<s_i_m>i see
05:22<jm_>that will be a bitch to fiure out then
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05:22<Shadowdancer>I'll just let the laptop do some rounds of memtest
05:24<Shadowdancer>wow, DDR666 memory. That might take a while :-)
05:25<jm_>that should be very fast if it's really DDR 666
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05:25<Shadowdancer>memtest86+ still takes some time per pass
05:26<jm_>did you try standard options, such as noapi noapic nolapic nommc?
05:26<jm_>pci=nommc IIRC
05:26<Shadowdancer>nope
05:26<jm_>maybe it's worth trying those first
05:27<Shadowdancer>it's probably something stupid obscure setting that got enabled by oldconfig
05:27<jm_>first one should be acpi=off
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05:28<s_i_m>Shadowdancer, so that was a custom-built kernel?
05:28<Shadowdancer>s_i_m: yes
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05:29<s_i_m>Shadowdancer, you could also try a debian kernel
05:30<s_i_m>that will not help to find the reason though
05:31<Shadowdancer>I'd like to figure that out... We're doing some driver dev at times, and distribution kernels have been problematic in the past
05:31<Shadowdancer>mostly ancient Ubuntu stuff though
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05:34<Shadowdancer>I should probably not be doing anything computer-related today... "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed."
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05:35<s_i_m>Shadowdancer, :)
05:35<s_i_m>looks like a bug
05:35<Shadowdancer>it is
05:36<Shadowdancer>Bug#486843
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05:37<Shadowdancer>and 349442
05:37<Shadowdancer>and 349120 :-)
05:38<pradeep240484>wep printer driver for wep810
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05:43<pradeep240484>need wep printer driver for wep 810
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05:54<Shadowdancer>someone apparently built a circular dependency around libxine1
05:54<pradeep240484>needed driver for wep printers
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05:56<MadHag>pradeep240484, looks like they have just finished drivers for Windows :)
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05:56<pradeep240484>wep printers for ubuntu
05:57<MadHag>http://www.wepindia.com/Downloads/DownloadDrivers.aspx
05:57<MadHag>Linux option is there
05:57<pradeep240484>need drivers for wep printer for ubuntu
05:57<MadHag>ask on Ubuntu
05:57<anonissimus>pradeep240484: you're anoying and this isn't #ubuntu
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05:58<MadHag>do they make Royal Enfield bikes as well?
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06:54<sarthor>Hi. i downloaded debian-40r4a-i386-CD-1, Can i install debian with gui from this one cd on my dell laptop.
06:54<sarthor>?
06:55<padski>sarthor, yes
06:55<mitra>"gui" meaning curses. absolutely
06:55<sarthor>padski, Ok. there is also xp installed on that, and i want to remove my ubuntu.. is it possible??
06:55<padski>mitra, isn't there X and gnome on CD1 ?
06:55<sarthor>i meant from gui ...Graphical mode
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06:56<mitra>hm im really not sure, but i thought the installer was only ever curses based - that would be cool
06:56<mitra>ive only done debootstrap recently, lol
06:56<padski>there is a gui installer too
06:56<jm_>mitra: no there's also GUI installer
06:57<mitra>brilliant
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06:59<Shadowdancer>OK. WTH does the kernel config parameter "KERNEL_STOP_MACHINE" do oO
06:59<cliff>hi everyone. got a problem with my system time. It is greater than the hardware time. I'm able to change it but when i reboot my changes are discarded. So what can i do with it assuming that i chose the right timezone?
07:00<padski>cliff, man hwclock
07:00<Shadowdancer>also, look at chrony
07:00<cliff><padski>: my hwclock is right. It's system time that differs
07:00<padski>cliff, or even http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html
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07:02<cliff><padski>: i've been trying for 2 hours already so could you give me some practical advise and not refer me to different manuals?
07:04<padski>cliff, system time is typically different to the hardware clock. in fact on systems there is more than one hardware clock. The Fine Materials that I am directing you to explain this large subject much better than I have time to here.
07:04<sarthor>Can i install this? please check md5sum 5d26486e68270bac43c3bcaf37581392 debian-40r4a-i386-CD-1.iso
07:05<cliff><padski>: thhhank you, i'll read it, but for now i don't need an explanation - i need a practical solution
07:05<padski>cliff, what are you trying to achieve ?
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07:08<cliff><padski>:i try to make my system time 3 hours back. Change it but after reboot everything is discarded. And this phrase - timestamp too far in the future!. if i set gnome clock to utc everything seems to be alright in Desktop. But on login screen the time is still 3 hours greater. That's it. Need to fix it
07:08<s_i_m>sarthor, I think that you have internet access, right? =) then in case you will not find something on the first cd you will be able to install that software later.
07:08<MadHag>!hostname
07:08<dpkg>use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' , or see /etc/mailname
07:09<gsimmons>sarthor: That doesn't match the MD5 checksum posted for this file at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r4a/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS
07:09<padski>cliff, the prog hwclock is supposed to be able to copy system time to the hardware clock. please check that, tell us whether it works.
07:09<cliff><padski>: i tried it but in vain
07:09<sarthor>gsimmons, what to do? i have install other? i just downloaded the iso.
07:10<padski>cliff, what is the hardware ? do you get any time/clock/rtc related errors at boot ?
07:10<sarthor>gsimmons, 1st time i am installing debian, so you help needed please.
07:10<sarthor>your*
07:10<cliff><padski>: no i don't - no errors
07:10<s_i_m>cliff, rm -f /etc/adjtime
07:10<padski>heh
07:11<s_i_m>just a guess ;)
07:11<cliff><s_i_m>: well, don't think removing system and config files is a good solution, but thanks
07:12<s_i_m>cliff, it will be recreated
07:12<padski>cliff, please paste a typescript of hwclock not working.
07:12<padski>!paste
07:12<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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07:13<cliff><padski>: well when trying to set hardware clock to system clock gives me an error
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07:13<sarthor>that day this chan denied to help me for ubuntu, and on of op or users said, that encourage sarthor to use debian. . . now i want to install debain, so also no/very late help. :)
07:13<padski>...
07:13<cliff>No usable set-to time. Cannot set clock.
07:13<sarthor>one of OP*
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07:13<noflash>sarthor, try the installation manual on debian.org/doc
07:13<gsimmons>sarthor: Your downloaded CD image isn't valid, so you're almost certain to run into difficulties during installation. You need to acquire a correct one. Download it again, ideally by using Jigdo or BitTorrent.
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07:14<widrone>sarthor: Just think of us as a very BIG hand, to hold or get slapped by.
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07:15<widrone>sarthor: That being said, Im sure most of the difficulties has a solution. Just one step at a time.
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07:16<anonissimus>sarthor: just get a torrent of the same file
07:16<anonissimus>it'll detect the missing or corrupt blocks
07:16<anonissimus>and replace them with correct ones
07:17<sarthor>my english is not good. i am confuse with this sentece of widrone "sarthor: Just think of us as a very BIG hand, to hold or get slapped by."
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07:17<sarthor>sentence*
07:18<anonissimus>sarthor: he means the image you downloaded is or good and then it'll work great, or bad and then it'll be guaranteed trouble
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07:18<sarthor>anonissimus, Ok. i thougt that he is talking to slap me. OK. i am downloading again.
07:18<widrone>sarthor: And that we are here to help, most of the time. Just have patience.
07:19<widrone>sarthor: No slapping, just trying to give you some support (I fail!).
07:19<sarthor>widrone, OK. i am downloading..and will be back. and then you have to help for my wlan.
07:19<anonissimus>hope you are not downloading the entire image again?
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07:20<sarthor>anonissimus, i deleted the previous one.
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07:20<sarthor>i will download with bittorrent now.
07:20<anonissimus>... not really smart hope it' wasn't the DVD
07:21<sarthor>anonissimus, that was CD image.
07:21<anonissimus>hmm ok, not too much space wasted ;)
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07:23<cliff>tried to set it using hwclock but it still discards on reboot. What can i do?
07:23<s_i_m>cliff, btw, is your hwclock set to UTC or local?
07:24<cliff>s_i_m>to local
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07:26<s_i_m>cliff, what does 'grep UTC /etc/default/rcS' say?
07:26<s_i_m>UTC=yes?
07:27<s_i_m>or no?
07:27<cliff><s_i_m>UTC=yes
07:27<s_i_m>that's the answer
07:27<cliff>i'll try it
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07:33<cliff>changed utc to "no" but still problem exists
07:33<cliff>when i make hwclock --directisa. the time is right
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08:15<n3wbi3>hello. somebody could tell me what font is this one (http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9257/tela2kw0.png) ?
08:16<ifvoid>the one in the menu or in the dialog?
08:17<n3wbi3>ifvoid: menu
08:17<ifvoid>ah, no idea
08:17<n3wbi3>ifvoid: :(
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08:19<rajeshsr>Aleric, hi
08:20<rajeshsr>jm_, hi
08:20<rajeshsr>Problem is solved!
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08:20<rajeshsr>Just toggled the boot flag of /dev/sda1
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08:27<jm_>rajeshsr: heh
08:28<enouf>rajeshsr: erm, is windows on sda1? are you using a bootloader other than grub1 (legacy)? .. and is it installed into that drive's MBR?
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08:28<n3wbi3>hello. somebody could tell me what font is this one (http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9257/tela2kw0.png) ?
08:28<rajeshsr>enouf, Yep windows is in sda1. Only GRUB I used.
08:28<rajeshsr>In the course of installation, I never touched sda1. I dunno how it got modified!
08:29<enouf>i see, ok - yep, windows likes to have the boot flag :-P
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08:32<rajeshsr>When I 'fdisk'ed the debian partition, I received an error about disk label and it said to press 'w' to write the changes(fix the error). Just did that! After that when I 'fdisk'ed no problem! But still the boot problem persisted so, I fdisked /dev/sda changed the boot flag of 1st partition.
08:32<rajeshsr>Then it booted well.
08:33<rajeshsr>I wonder if GRUB while installing itself in MBR which I think must be in /dev/sda1 changed the boot flag!
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08:34<jm_>no
08:35<rajeshsr>jm_, then!
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08:52<vltre>ciao
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08:56<vltre>hallo
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09:00<Halfdream>hi
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09:00<Halfdream>can someone give me a sources.list with french servers please ?
09:00<Halfdream>mine is awful
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09:02<petemc>http://ftp.fr.debian.org/
09:02<Halfdream>the sources.list ?
09:03<petemc>its not complicated syntax, try thinking about it
09:03<Halfdream>.
09:03<clint1986>replace the url already in your sources.list
09:04<Halfdream>yes
09:04<Halfdream>but there is many errors
09:04<martinwm>deb <mirror>/debian etch main contrib non-free
09:04<Halfdream>i'm on a testing
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09:04<jm_>apply logic
09:04<clint1986>then use lenny/testing
09:05<clint1986>not literally lenny/testing
09:05<clint1986>lenny or testing
09:05<martinwm>Halfdream: just replace "etch" with "lenny" then
09:05<martinwm>same for: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
09:05<Halfdream>okay
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09:05<Halfdream>there was a sid in my sources.list
09:06<clint1986>that's the unstable branch
09:06<Halfdream>yes i know
09:06<clint1986>you were mixing them?
09:06<MadHag>I can recommend openpanel on etch it works a treat www.openpanel.org installed fine and just got my first domain up and running no problem
09:06<Halfdream>no, it was an error
09:07<Halfdream>that is my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/1179601
09:08<martinwm>Halfdream: the security updates come from security.debian.org not from one of the common mirrors
09:09<clint1986>that's why your getting errors
09:09<clint1986>s/your/you're
09:09<martinwm>and about the lenny-proposed-updates i dunno tbh
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09:09<Halfdream>what i got to do so ?
09:10<martinwm>Halfdream: hang on
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09:11<clint1986>http://pastebin.ca/1179609
09:11<clint1986>i think that's what you need
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09:11<Baggy2>I am receiving the following message "BINFMT_FLAT: bad header magic" due to kernel support only for flat binaries. Is there a tool or something for converting elf binaries to flat ones? Or source code so I can build such a tool for my host system..
09:11<Halfdream>just that ?
09:11<clint1986>i'm not sure about the lenny-proposed-updates either
09:11*martinwm confirms clint1986
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09:11<clint1986>yeah, you're doubling up a lot in there
09:12<Halfdream>okay
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09:12<martinwm>Halfdream: and "deb-src" you only need when you plan to get the source packages
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09:12<Halfdream>okay thanks
09:12<martinwm>welcome
09:13<clint1986>no worries
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09:24<Shadowdancer>OK... the kernel crashes were due to one of: ISA support, MSI(-X), IRQ balancing, I2O, APM, or MMC/SD support.
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09:32<Aleric>rajeshsr: great
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09:40<mmaher>I built KDE4 on debian :D
09:40<padski>Shadowdancer, how can you be so sure? ;-)
09:41<padski>mmaher, isn't built already ?
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09:41<mmaher>yea, but the packages are broken
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09:42<padski>ah! but this is why I love free software :-)
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09:46<padski>try /join
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09:49<Shadowdancer>padski: it's running far longer without those that it did with :-)
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09:52<Shadowdancer>ah damn! Why did you have to ask, it just went tits-up again :-/
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09:53<Madkiss>hi all
09:54<padski>Shadowdancer, do you get a stack trace ?
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09:55<Shadowdancer>no, I get nothing, it just freezes
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09:57<Shadowdancer>this is going to LKML
09:57<padski>Shadowdancer, something random from google for you: http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/kernel-lockup.htm
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10:00<Shadowdancer>I had that on before
10:00<padski>:-(
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10:01*Shadowdancer wants a Mac
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10:02<padski>heh
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10:02<padski>I had a mac a while back. installed Debian on it in the end.
10:03<petemc>that makes for some expensive hardware
10:04<Shadowdancer>there's still the question where exactly the stack trace from the lockup detection is going. I know that nothing happens on the first console.
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10:05<Shadowdancer>I also know that a non-SMP kernel has been running happily for the last 10 days at home
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10:09<padski>petemc, and not necessarily the best supported, but it was interesting and the gf could multiboot into OSX.
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10:10<padski>Shadowdancer, http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2063.html
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10:13<padski>;-)
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10:33<boobsbr>howdy
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10:33<boobsbr>is there a way to reset a tcp connection going through a router running debian?
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10:34<mihau>hello
10:34<clint1986>hi :)
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10:34<mihau>Is here anyone who could guide me step by step how to connect notebook with pc via lan?
10:35<petemc>give them both ip addresses, connect cable, done
10:35<mihau>I've written step by step ;d
10:35<mihau>i'm newbie ;p
10:36<clint1986>how do you want to connect?
10:36<clint1986>ftp? ssh?
10:37<MadHag>whats the command to check how much memory a remote server has, I think I am being ripped off
10:37<mihau>ftp would be nice;;p
10:37<clint1986>ok, then you need to install an ftpd
10:37<petemc>MadHag: free
10:37<MadHag>thats physical ram?
10:38<petemc>correct
10:38<clint1986>once it is up, you can ftp to the machine it's on
10:38<MadHag>thanks
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10:38<clint1986>can you even ping the machines?
10:39<mihau>well, i didnt try ;p
10:39<mihau>as I've already written, Im' newbie
10:39<clint1986>i've got no problem with that, honest
10:39<mihau>let's go priv, ok?
10:39<clint1986>best keep it in here
10:39<mihau>ok
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10:40<mihau>som, could you please write me step by step tutorial?;p
10:40<mihau>how to ping the machines>
10:40<MadHag>petemc, http://pastebin.com/m20eafe36 what does that tell you?
10:40<clint1986>well, you use the ping command - ping 10.0.0.2 for example
10:40<mihau>only pc is connected to the internet
10:40<clint1986>if you get a reply, your network works
10:41<mihau>well, it doesn't ;p
10:41<clint1986>then you can go about installing whatever it is you want to transfer data, information or whatever
10:41<boobsbr>is it possible to use iptables to stop all traffic going through a router from a certain internal ip? would this close an already established tcp connection?
10:41<petemc>MadHag: 2 gig of ram
10:41<MadHag>gb?
10:41<clint1986>mihau: the debian machine doesn't work on the network?
10:41<MadHag>really
10:42-!-mode/#debian [+l 356] by debhelper
10:42<mihau>i've got 2 debian machines
10:42<mihau>pc and the notebook
10:42<mihau>connected via cable
10:42<MadHag>only supposed to be 0.5 :)
10:42<mihau>that's all what i've done so far
10:42<MadHag>best say nothing then
10:43<clint1986>have you checked that there is a supported network card in each?
10:43<mihau>actually i didn't
10:43<MadHag>is there a command to check the processor
10:43<petemc>cat /proc/cpuinfo
10:43<clint1986>mihau: i'd start there
10:43<MadHag>:)
10:44<mihau>notebook - toshiba satellite l300-11g
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10:44<mihau>pc - mono asus m2v
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10:44<mihau>mobo*
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10:45<MadHag>petemc, thanks, is that really 2gb of ram?
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10:46<petemc>MadHag: free -m
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10:46<andrea_>hi
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10:46<petemc>MadHag: in the future, i would recommend not badgering people for reassurance, but look into how you can validate it yourself
10:47<MadHag>sure, thanks
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10:47<mihau>how can i chech if network cards are supported?
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10:47<themill>!hcl
10:47<dpkg>i heard hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/, <pciid ... [xxxx:yyyy] ala lspci -nn>
10:47<clint1986>find out what they are then do a bit of research
10:48<mihau>1 x Giga Ethernet 10 / 100 / 1000 Mb/s (Atlantic L1)
10:48<mihau>pc
10:48<clint1986>the command lspci on the debian boxes will give you some info on the hardware on the machine
10:49<andrea_>oO
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10:50<mihau>Ethernet controller: Unknown device 1969:1048 (rev b0)
10:50<mihau>is it good or bad?
10:50<no-name>lol
10:51<mihau>i guess bad
10:51<no-name>yes
10:51<mihau>so, it's not supported, right?
10:51<gsimmons>mihau: With respect to the Attansic L1, you'll need to supply the "atl1" driver for its use, if you are running Etch. It is provided with the etchnhalf kernel.
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10:51<gsimmons>!atl1
10:51<dpkg>i guess atl1 is a driver for the Attansic (now Atheros) L1 gigabit ethernet chipset, found in several Asus motherboards. Driver present in mainline kernels 2.6.21 and later ("modprobe atl1"). For kernels older than 2.6.21, use of the vendor driver is recommended. See http://atl1.sf.net for known bugs/problems and the vendor driver.
10:51<themill>run update-pciids to resolve the name
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10:52<mihau>Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0)
10:52<clint1986>yeah, i just did a quick google and gsimmons is right
10:52<mihau>ok, now it seems to be fine
10:52<clint1986>there we go :)
10:52<hurfduh>When I locked a screen (GNU screen) using ^A-x in Lenny, it is accepting any password at all to unlock. Can anyone else reproduce this?
10:52<hurfduh>s/locked/lock/
10:54<mihau>ok, both cards are supported now, i guess
10:54<mihau>what's next?
10:54<clint1986>not that i thought he was wrong of course, i was searching as he said it
10:54<clint1986>that sounded a bit rude, sorry :p
10:55<mihau>;p
10:55<mihau>no problem ;p
10:56<clint1986>heh, not you
10:56<mihau>xd
10:56<clint1986>gsimmons
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10:56<mihau>when i'm trying to ping anything @notebook i'm getting an error
10:56<mihau>network is unreachable
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10:58<clint1986>sorry, i'm a bit busy at this end for the moment
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10:59<mihau>ok, i'll be back later, need to go as well
10:59<mihau>anyway, thanks ;p
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10:59<clint1986>no worries, peace out :)
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11:01<clint1986>gsimmons: didn't mean to come across as checking up on you there, i was looking at the same time, sorry :p
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11:05<Benix>hey, I am doing debian packaging for my own needs for a while and I wish to improve the packages. Is there somebody who can give me a hint in splitting debian packages? I didn't find any refernce for that. I know how to edit debian/control and to create <packagename>.files, but I am wondering how to create those <package>.install . Of course this is possible to do it by hand, but isn't there any useful script for that?
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11:08<themill>Benix: there's not really a scriptable way of making those files as no script can really know how you're going to split the package.
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11:09<McSkimb>hi
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11:10<Benix>themill: ok, then tell me please, what for do I need <package>.files ? It contains paths with wildcards, I use this file to create <package>.install
11:11<Benix>themill: so it would be scriptable
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11:14<themill>Benix: aiui packagename.files is an automatically generated file that you shouldn't need to touch or make. The best way to install files is using a good make install target for your upstream source, the second-best way is using a .install file.
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11:15<Benix>themill: ah, great. I will edit my debian/rules with costumized install targets, thanks a lot!
11:16<themill>no worries. Also, /msg dpkg mentors -- you'll usually get more packaging help from them than from this channel.
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11:17<Benix>good to know
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11:23<luser>Just installed tomcat5.5 - I have no idea where to put a simple helloworld.html to test it - any ideas?
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11:25<beno>question: does anyone use Debian under parallels here?
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11:28<luser>OK, if I stick it in /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/jsp-examples/hello.html , then http://localhost:8180/jsp-examples/hello.html works
11:29<luser>but that's because tomcat already seems to be prepared to process things it finds in /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/jsp-examples/
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11:36<luks>hi guys, does anyone knows how to hide gnome panel under maximized windows?
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11:46<Cholito>ln -s mp3 www/music gives me a broken link, why? (mp3 exists...)
11:47<Cholito>www is a link in my /home but trying to do a link to /var/www/ also gives me a broken link
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11:47<EmleyMoor>Cholito: What's the wd when you type that?
11:48<Cholito>/home/me and /home/me/www/ neither work...
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11:48<EmleyMoor>Try it without the www/ in the latter
11:49<Cholito>it gives me a correct link
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11:50<EmleyMoor>A success of sorts then
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11:51<Cholito>this works ok ==> alejandro@matos:~/www$ ln -s ebook/ libre
11:51<Shadowdancer>shalala... still crashes with "acpi=off nolapic noapic nolapic_timer nohz=off"
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11:53<Cholito>but this doesn't ==> alejandro@matos:~/www$ ln -s ../MP3 music
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11:53<EmleyMoor>Does ~/MP3 exist?
11:53<Cholito>yes
11:54<Cholito>;)
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11:55<EmleyMoor>Are there any PCI-Express (a) sound cards (b) TV/vidcap cards that work in lenny?
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12:20<DreamLnr>hi
12:21<DreamLnr>how do i make a directory accessible for all users except one?
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12:23<Guest2654>add all to one group, except the one
12:23<Guest2654>DreamLnr:
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12:26<Roi____>hi
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12:28<Roi____>so back again... and a new question on that tftp stuff: why does the file boot if i call it linux.xyz instead of just linux? like its delivered from the debian mirrors?
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12:39<Lounge>i was sondering if we as linux users have the ability to create .isos/cds/dvds with copy protection?
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12:40<Lounge>like movie dvds?
12:43<Guest2654>search for it ;)
12:43<Guest2654>i don't know
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12:46<Lounge>suppose if a hacker or an adversary of the 3 letter agency got a hold of an encrypted dvd from some person working for human rights and
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12:46<Lounge>and they either break the 5th amendment by forcing the person to hand over the passphrase or
12:46<koollman>Lounge: so far, history shows that copy protection is not really effective
12:47<koollman>break an amendment ? ahah. That would just be 'look, that is a terrorist dvd. no law for you'
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12:47<Lounge>yes but let me say that wouldn;t it also be an extra layer of security by making an encrypted dvd also copy protected?
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12:48<fxiny>what ? copy protection or encryption ?
12:48<themill>copy protection is very different to stopping someone from reading the contents
12:48<fxiny>of course
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12:49<Lounge>fxiny: both
12:49<fxiny>makes no sense
12:49<themill>fxiny: (I know that you know that)
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12:49<fxiny>themill: :)
12:49<Lounge>usually they always work on a copy to try and decypher it right?
12:49<fxiny>themill: and i know that you know that ;)
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12:50<Lounge>so what if they couldn;t make a copy?
12:50<vltre>ciao
12:50<Lounge>then what would they have to do?
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12:51<Lounge>i can make encrypted dvds by way of luks or truecrypt - but they can still be copied
12:51<themill>Lounge: copy protection schemes don't work. If you can read the contents to study them, then you can read the contents to copy them.
12:51<fxiny>zenify your dvd :P
12:51<Lounge>well then i guess i withdraw from my question
12:51<papat>hey, I can't manage sound to work in my debian. Any clues? When I try vlc I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" error
12:52<Lounge>withdraw my question* lol
12:52<papat>but all sound modules seem to be loaded (2.6.25)
12:52<Lounge>i was thinking something along the way of md5 but not sure
12:53<Lounge>aw hell nm
12:53<papat>I also get this error in vlc: [00000353] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
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12:54<Flinx>hello
12:55<fxiny>snail news : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/20/freerunner_debian/
12:55<Lounge>how many gigs can a blueray hold? before i wiki it
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12:56<Flinx>fxiny, nice :D
12:56<Flinx>I might try putting Debian on my FR later
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12:59<fxiny>Lounge: check today /. home for encryption/5th Amendment
13:00<fxiny>Flinx: yeahhh : the news puppets are always late ;)
13:01<Flinx>they are?
13:01<Flinx>oh heh..
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13:01<Flinx>maybe its caues I'm always haunting #openmoko ;)
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13:02<stevecotton>papat: those are two separate problems. Not sure about the ALSA one, but the VLC one is that it's trying to use OSS instead of ALSA (and OSS is old, replaced by ALSA)
13:02<papat>stevecotton, I cannot get sound anywhere, I think it's an ALSA problem. How can I test it?
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13:02<stevecotton>papat: run the "groups" command, and see if you're in the "audio" group
13:03<papat>yes I am
13:03<amphi>channels are unmuted? ;)
13:03<Flinx>I was just thinking that
13:04<stevecotton>try "aplay" (with a .wav file, it won't play oggs or mp3s"
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13:04<fxiny>Flinx: #openmoko ? how is ? busy ?
13:04<Flinx>Yeah pretty busy, the community is generally pretty friendly too :D
13:05<Flinx>Sadly ive not been having a lot of time to actually dig into my FR though.
13:05<fxiny>freenode or oftc ?
13:06<papat>ko guys, it's now solved. Weird problem: system founds an USB audio device an puts it by default..., I selected the correct one and it works, thanx
13:07<Flinx>#openmoko is on freenode
13:07<Flinx>I just can't get to it, cause Freenode thinks that my IP is running Tor >.<
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13:09<Flinx>What package(s) would you guys recommend for a FlashPlayer?
13:09<themill>!adobe flash
13:09<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is a non-free Flash player and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree. This package was removed from Etch and will not be included in future stable releases (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291); use the one from backports.org (ask me about <non-free> <bpo> <adobe flash testing>). If you are using a 64-bit browser, ask me about <nspluginwrapper>. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
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13:11<OzOr>is there a list of supported wireless cards? thank you
13:11<amphi>Flinx: if all you need flash for is youtube, you could ask dpkg about 'youtube script'
13:11<amphi>!wireless
13:11<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <madwifi>; Atmel: <at76_usb>; Broadcom: <bcm43xx>, <b43>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>; Ralink: <rt2x00>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; ZyDAS: <zd1211rw>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
13:12<Flinx>yeah basically
13:12<Flinx>On my desktop I used Synaptic to figure it out, but this is a fresh install on the laptop and I'm trying to do it the apt-get way ;)
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13:12<amphi>Flinx: the script uses mplayer to render the flash video, so you can watch youtube in console ;)
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13:12<Flinx>ooooo
13:12<fxiny>shortly after install "flash block" firebus extension :P
13:13<fxiny>;)
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13:14<Flinx>kay
13:14<meandtheshell>hi folks - is it possible to resize (grow/shrink) a jfs file system?
13:14<papat>ok, stevecotton , I can play audio mp3 files with kaffeine, but not with vlc (same errors as above) nor in firefox (audio from flash player9 - youtube)
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13:15<Flinx>does the youtube script also work for flash enabled websites?
13:15<amphi>Flinx: no, just for youtube
13:15<Flinx>kay
13:15<amphi>Flinx: you just give the script a url, and it grabs the flv from youtube and throws it at mplayer
13:16<Flinx>I probably want the other one then as well
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13:16<fxiny>amphi: has been fixed ?
13:17<amphi>fxiny: fixed? when was it geb0rkt?
13:17<Flinx>last question.. are there any recommended packages for laptops? When I did the install, I chose the Laptop group, so I think I'm covered.
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13:17<Flinx>but just in case yanno.
13:17<fxiny>amphi: enouf was pissed pff last weekend
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13:17<fxiny>enouf: ping !
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13:19<amphi>fxiny: the version I have here, that I last fiddled with on 2008-08-09, works fine
13:19<amphi>fxiny: and the changes were irrelevant to youtube
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13:20<fxiny>amphi: maybe he fixed it
13:20<amphi>fxiny: what was wrong with it?
13:20<fxiny>amphi: dunno . he was very upset , someone edited it
13:20<amphi>fxiny: I fiddled with it to allow to pass through mplayer options
13:21<Lounge>bbl
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13:21<amphi>fxiny: for fixing aspect, -dumpstream, or whatever
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13:24<kyrsquir>hello
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13:25<kyrsquir>where can I find application icons in both cases: if installed by apt and if compiled from source?
13:26<fxiny>amphi: i have a local copy "This page was last modified 10:34, 14 August 2008" , according to enouf this was borked . can't find the url to check current version
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13:27<kyrsquir>is that a channel where I should ask?
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13:28<Flinx>hrmm..
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13:28<Flinx>I'm having some dependency issues with installing gnash
13:28<stevecotton>Flinx - the script in package "clive" will work with a few other flash sites too
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13:28<Flinx>stevecotton, alright lemme try that
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13:30<amphi_>fxiny: router fell over - did you get my pastebin?
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13:31<fxiny>nope
13:31<fxiny>i'm on off-topic if you want
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13:32<Flinx>I think I got it worked out
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13:32<Flinx>I can just force the base-files version from etch backports
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13:43<Flinx>wow... these speakers are REALLY quiet...
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13:45<fxiny>Flinx: Mozart requiem mass side effect ;)
13:45<m_101>hi
13:46<Flinx>hehe
13:47<Flinx>I dunno..
13:47<amphi>arrggh
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14:00<m_101>how much mhz does 211 bogomips correspond?*
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14:03<chack-1>there is a libapache2-mod-evasif in debian etch?
14:03<chack-1>i dont find it in depots
14:03<m_101>apt-cache search evasif
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14:04<chack-1>there is not here
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14:04<avtobiff>on lenny, how do people install nvidia proprietary drivers nowadays? xen enabled on non-xen kernels prohibits the downloaded package from nvidia.com to work.
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14:04<avtobiff>(and there is no nvidia-glx in lenny or sid)
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14:05<m_101>compile vanilla kernel or install another kernel
14:05<avtobiff>is that the only way?
14:05<m_101>yes
14:05<avtobiff>http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-on-2625-2-debian-kernel-with-xen
14:05<avtobiff>so what about that?
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14:06<[tata]>avtobiff, 1. cd /lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686 (or wherever are your modules)
14:06<[tata]>2. grep CONFIG_XEN . -Rl | xargs -i sed -i -e 's/CONFIG_XEN/CONFIG_LUPO/g' {}
14:06<[tata]>3. export IGNORE_XEN_PRESENCE=1
14:06<[tata]>4. reboot
14:06<[tata]>4. CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run
14:06-!-[tata] was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
14:07<avtobiff>eeeh
14:07<Kjetil_>wouldn't export then reboot be kind of counterproductive ?
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14:08<teratoma>do 'at' jobs survive reboots ?
14:08<EmleyMoor>I am having trouble getting my wireless working under lenny - it was fine under etch. I can ifconfig eth1 manually and communicate with the rest of my network but I can't get it to dhcp or anything to connect
14:08<m_101>iwconfig
14:08<avtobiff>i don't understand the xargs then sed statement exactly, or afaik it should replace CONFIG_XEN with CONFIG_LUPO but it doesn't
14:08<EmleyMoor>m_101: Shows correct SSID associated with
14:10-!-hojjat [~hojjat@89.165.7.177] has joined #debian
14:10<hojjat>hi
14:10<hojjat>can u help me
14:10<avtobiff>no one knows how to install nvidia drivers with debian stock kernels on lenny?
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14:11<EmleyMoor>!tell hojjat about ask
14:11<hojjat>i have problem
14:11<hojjat>mount faild for selinuxfs
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14:12<m_101>doesn't the procedure on the website you've given works?
14:12<hojjat>in boot time
14:12<m_101>if not, like I said ..... install a custom kernel or another kernel package (linux-image-486 works fine)
14:12<hojjat>:d
14:13<m_101>(I'm taling to avtobiff )
14:13<m_101>*talking
14:13<avtobiff>m_101, no
14:13<hojjat>i compiled i686 kernel
14:13<hojjat>i use to deb kernel
14:13<hojjat>parsix
14:13<hojjat>i use deb kerne too
14:13<avtobiff>mmm, yes
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14:14<m_101>if it doesn't work ... well I'm not going to repeat myself again
14:15<EmleyMoor>I'm reading docs just in case something's changed
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14:15<hojjat>excusme i should to have dinner
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14:15<hojjat>my mail is goodlinuxuser@gmail.com
14:16<hojjat>i wait to ur answer
14:16<amphi>!ur
14:16<dpkg>Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya.
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14:16<sarthor>i am installing debain on 1st time, should i install from debian-update-4.0r4a-i386-CD-1.iso or debian-4.0r4a-i386-CD-1.iso ?
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14:18<clint1986>the latter
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14:23<Flinx>Ello
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14:24<Flinx>is there a way to automate default inputs when using text-based installers?
14:25<Flinx>example: samba asks for a workgroup, and I just want it to pick the default, but its on a blue screen with an input box
14:25<Flinx>all in the console
14:25<sarthor>i am installing debain on 1st time, should i install from debian-update-4.0r4a-i386-CD-1.iso or debian-4.0r4a-i386-CD-1.iso ?
14:25<sarthor>#debian sleeping
14:25<m_101>go see preseed Flinx
14:26<amphi>Flinx: there's expect, but it won't work with such a dialog AFAIK
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14:26<m_101>second one sarthor .... we already answered your question
14:26<m_101>learn to read man ...
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14:27<sarthor>m_101, i read some manual, there i saw mentioned, that ask about debian in #debain
14:27<sarthor>;)
14:27<Flinx>sarthor, you want the one w/o the update
14:27<Flinx>sarthor, debian-4.0r4a-i386-CD-1.is
14:27<sarthor>Flinx, OK. thank you. i downloaded that.. now i will installed. and will be back to you.
14:28<Flinx>.... debian-4.0r4a-i386-CD-1.iso
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14:28<Flinx>m_101, is preseed a command?
14:28<Flinx>nvM! i found it
14:29<Flinx>google just put it on the bottom of the list.
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14:29<m_101>sarthor is a retard or what .... not cool this guy anyway
14:29<m_101>yes Flinx
14:29<m_101>preseed on google ;)
14:29<Flinx>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed ??
14:29<Flinx>have you tried it on google? :P
14:29<m_101>read it before asking
14:29<Flinx>you get like a lot of skincare products
14:30<m_101>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable
14:30<m_101>and read RTFM
14:30<Flinx>hrm.. Preseed is for the DebianInstaller
14:30<amphi>'read read the fucking manual' ?
14:30<Flinx>I'm installing SAMBA after the OS is loaded.
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14:31<fxiny>Flinx : just one box ?
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14:31<EmleyMoor>Is there a command line way to bring up a network interface using dhcp?
14:31<m_101>amphi, .... why would you give shit about typos like this? .... really .... it's a lost of time ....
14:31<amphi>EmleyMoor: dhclient <iface> works here
14:32<EmleyMoor>dhclient: command not found
14:32<Flinx>fxiny, we're trying to set up scripts that can be run from a CD with a local repo
14:32<avtobiff>m_101, it worked with the trick at the site i posted but the grep | xargs sed command didn't work.
14:32<lavaramano>EmleyMoor: run dhclient being root
14:32<Flinx>fxiny, but no.. the idea is that we will be doign this with many machines
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14:32<m_101>if it worked then good
14:32<amphi>EmleyMoor: provided by dhcp3-client here
14:32<EmleyMoor>dhclient: command not found even as root
14:33<m_101>but for the cmd go rtfm
14:33<Flinx>heh...
14:33<fxiny>Flinx: there are many tools you might be interested in : FAI , preseeding , puppet , cfengine . pkgsync , i like jablicator
14:34<[tata]>avtobiff, in root mod
14:34<amphi>m_101: if you're going to be cantankerous, precision is advised
14:34<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... I see a problem - will fix
14:34<widrone>So if partman dont detect a swap partition on a drive, can I just swapon manually and the rest of the install should proceed as expected? (Im in a low mem install atm)
14:34<rajeshsr>hi, while installing Virtual Box, ./configure gave: " ** bcc (variable BCC) not found!"
14:34<rajeshsr>what is bcc?
14:35<widrone>on the topic of why partman dont see the swap, I dont know. May be having hw trouble maybe.
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14:35<m_101>sorry amphi ... but I'm bored of people asking before searching ........
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14:35<Flinx>fxiny, yeah I can see that. But it looks like preseeding is used mostly when doing the initial OS load.
14:35<amphi>m_101: I know the feeling
14:35<m_101>or not reading the answer given 3-5 lines before the question being reasked ...
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14:36<fxiny>Flinx: i'm planning to use jablicator with apt-cacher just to keep apache aawake ;)
14:36<m_101>and I hate people correcting little typos all the time ....
14:36<m_101>(on irc I mean not in the doc)
14:36<fxiny>Flinx: i'll do it on lenny soon
14:36<sarthor>Hi, i am back again. i started installation of debain cd1, its asking my lan card, i dont know that to seletect, ubunut detect it self, what to do now? i have dell inspiron 1525 laptop.
14:36<Flinx>m_101, i was just doing a sanity check when I posted the link. Sometimes google doesn't always give up the answers :P
14:36<widrone>Bah, Im mounting stuff manually and skipping the partman step. Something is all wierd =P
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14:37<m_101>sarthor choose the one which has an internet connection
14:37<m_101>look at ifconfig
14:37<m_101>and RTFM man
14:37<m_101>(have you really read the manual before asking sarthor ?)
14:37<sarthor>m_101, we all will read RTMF. close the #debain then.
14:38<m_101>yeah Flinx .... why don't you make a config file and copy it to /etc? doesn't it work?
14:38<sarthor>ubutunt is 100 times better. they help alot.
14:38<sarthor>then why yesterday you told me to install debian. while you are not helping today.
14:38<m_101>sarthor, ... we will help you if you help yourself first
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14:39<m_101>the golden rule before asking : search and if you really don't find it ... ask
14:39<Flinx>m_101, I'm trying that now
14:39<widrone>sarthor: What hardware is the card? Maybe we can figure out the driver needed.
14:39<m_101>ok Flinx
14:39<sarthor>widrone, i am not to computers as well linux Oses.
14:39<m_101>like I said sarthor .... you didn't really bother to read my answer, did you?
14:39<m_101>try ifconfig
14:39<m_101>then pastebin .......
14:40<m_101>sarthor, ... I'm going to repeat myself again : search .... then ask
14:40<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... that would explain a lot - dhcp3-client had uninstalled
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14:40<kurumin>manada-me noticias
14:40<m_101>EmleyMoor, udhcpd?
14:40<m_101>have you tried it?
14:41<kurumin>nao entendo ingles
14:41<EmleyMoor>m_101: No...
14:41<sarthor>widrone, http://pastebin.com/m3459a4ff
14:41<stevecotton>!es
14:41<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
14:41<m_101>kurumin, no halamos espanol
14:41<EmleyMoor>(besides, I like the ISC dhcp_
14:41<EmleyMoor>)
14:41<stevecotton>!br
14:41<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
14:41<m_101>*hablamos
14:41<clint1986>sarthor: have you tried linux-on-laptops.com to see if there is a specific guide for you laptop?
14:41<kurumin>eu entendo espanhol
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14:41<m_101>no comprende, mi espanol no es ... very nice
14:41<m_101>xD
14:42<m_101>kurumin go #debian-es
14:42<clint1986>s/you/your
14:42<widrone>So your network card is detected and network is up, what is the trouble then?
14:42<widrone>sarthor: So your network card is detected and network is up, what is the trouble then? (Was that for me?)
14:42<kurumin>vamos falar espanhol
14:43<m_101>I leave it to you guys ... I don't wanna help someone who doesn't seem to have read a lot of docs
14:43<widrone>sarthor: Well, one of the atleast. So I guess you got passed the "what hw"
14:43<sarthor>widrone, right now i am on ubuntu.. i want to install debain. in the start of installation it asks for my ethernet. i dont know what to select.
14:43<clint1986>sarthor: you want to use the wireless card on it?
14:43<clint1986>sarthor: or the hard line?
14:43<sarthor>clint1986, yes.
14:43<EmleyMoor>Any suggestions for a PCI-Express (a) TV card (b) sound card, that work in lenny?
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14:43<m_101>select eth1
14:43<kurumin>vou desligar adeus
14:44<m_101> inet addr:192.168.0.147 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
14:44<clint1986>ok, i that will be the intel wireless pro or something similar for that laptop
14:44<sarthor>clint1986, i seleected the bcm card there for wireless but that came back on the old place..nothing happend.
14:44<m_101>mean it has been attributed an ip by the gateway
14:44<widrone>sarthor: lspci will give you a list and the 09: id is the one
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14:44<m_101>or better : lspci -vnn
14:44<stevecotton>EmleyMoor: is non-Express PCI an option?
14:44<clint1986>sarthor: you're not making much sense
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14:44<vltre>ciao
14:44<widrone>its a Marvell Tech adapter. wireless is ipw3945
14:44<sarthor> Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 12)
14:45<clint1986>that's not the wireless card is it?
14:45<sarthor>and wireless is BCM4312
14:45<clint1986>oh my
14:45<widrone>nope the wireless is ipw3945
14:45<EmleyMoor>stevecotton: I already have them in non-Express - looking to diminish my use of non-Express
14:45<clint1986>which one?
14:45<sarthor>Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
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14:45<m_101>....
14:45<widrone>leas so says the linux on laptops page of his hw, but I may be wrong. Hes the one with the hardware
14:46<m_101>really .... sarthor ... the more you speak and the more I'm thinking you haven't searched ....
14:46<m_101>anyway look for the proprietary firmware for this chipset
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14:46<sarthor>m_101, i request for not helping me. thank you.
14:47<m_101>ok then .... you'll lose someone who can give you some help ...
14:47<m_101>good luck then retard
14:47<widrone>sarthor: You dont get to tell, use the igore option if you want to cut ppl out of your world.
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14:48<sarthor>widrone, OK. you are right. Sorry my friend for this. Sorry m_101 Really sorry
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14:48<clint1986>i think it's the iwl3945 driver on the 1525
14:48<m_101>sorry for being cantankerous ... but I'm trying to help someone who doesn't seem rtfm ... and don't even want help I give ... sorry then ... afk
14:49<widrone>And the interwebs says the wired card driver is in kernel after 2.6.22
14:49<clint1986>the wired connection is using the sky2 driver
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14:50<clint1986>it must all work because the 1525 comes with ubuntu preinstalled if you want, doesn't it?
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14:50<clint1986>only problem i can think of is that if he is using etch, it might be out of date
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14:54<clint1986>maybe it wasn't the 1525 with ubuntu
14:54<clint1986>nevermind, looks like he's gone anyway
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14:57<matth>(1525 + ubuntu totally rocks)
14:57<m_101>go search for the nonfree firmware
14:57<m_101>if you don't have these .;. the cards won't work even if you have the drivers
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15:08<mindqaugas>Hello, how can i format my hard drive with debian cd ? now i tring to reinstall debian but i getting messages base system can not be installed xxxx.deb file corupted..
15:09<clint1986>as part of the debian install on the cd, you can format, partition and erase drives
15:09<clint1986>it will be one of the steps
15:10<m_101>boot the installer with these options : rescue/enable=true
15:10<m_101>then wait for the autoconfig and then format your drive
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15:11<mindqaugas>ok thank you , now trying it
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15:11<widrone>If you are getting -deb file corrupt errors from that cd, Im not too sure installing from it is a good idea. Did you check md5 sums on the dl?
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15:12<mindqaugas>before when i first time installing debian everyting was ok , but now is something wrong i cant get gui and etc.. so i want to reinstall debian.. but in installation process my HDD now formated and i getting these messages.. sorry for my english
15:12<clint1986>well slow down, is what widrone says correct?
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15:12<clint1986>don't use the cd if the errors are coming from it
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15:14<clint1986>i didn't really understand that
15:14<clint1986>sorry
15:15<mindqaugas>booting says to me could not find kernel image: rescue/enable=true
15:16<m_101>your cd is defect perhaps
15:16<m_101>check as widrone said
15:16<mindqaugas>could not find
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15:17<mindqaugas>but everyting was ok on this cd after i make apt-get updates.. my base system now is corrupted
15:17<mindqaugas>ops before
15:18<clint1986>did you change anything at all that might have caused that?
15:18<clint1986>is this on etch?
15:18<clint1986>it's unlikely it would break without be altered somehow
15:19<clint1986>s/be/being
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15:19<m_101>heh perl is quite practical ... even on IRC huh? :)
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15:20<george_>olá
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15:22<george_>hello
15:23<george_>anyone here?
15:23<george_>someone here?
15:24<george_>algum brasileiro na area?
15:24<lugh>help
15:24<george_>can i help you?
15:24<lugh>
15:24<lugh>Someone help me
15:25<george_>ok make you question
15:25<clint1986>what's up guys?
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15:25<clint1986>george_: you're spanish?
15:25<clint1986>george_: if so, #debian-es
15:26<lugh>
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15:26<lugh>Personnel which the name of the package so that I install compressed files in bz tar, etc. .. can unpack automatically, without being in command line.?
15:26<clint1986>assuming i'm identifying that language correctly - they were never a strong point for me at school
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15:41<mj>hi
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15:42<mj>Im new to debian and need some help... how do i clean out /tmpfs if i get disc full when uploading with ftp to /var/www/ ??
15:43<mj>anyone pls ?
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15:52<Cyorxamp>Does anyone know when 5.0 was frozen?
15:52<clint1986>lenny?
15:52<Cyorxamp>yes
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15:53<clint1986>july 27th i believe
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15:53<clint1986>http://release.debian.org/
15:53<clint1986>yeah
15:53<Cyorxamp>cool, thanks
15:53<clint1986>no worries
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16:11<EmleyMoor>Got my laptop sorted :-)
16:11<superbeast>hi everybody
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16:12<amphi>what ailed it?
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16:13<EmleyMoor>On a wireless network, is the bssid the MAC address of the AP?
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16:13<alien>hello, ciao to all Debian friends
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16:14<Cyorxamp>clint1986: if it was proven on the 27th, does that make it the first RC... if so can I get an ISO of that exact R?
16:14<Cyorxamp>*RC?
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16:15<Cyorxamp>*frozen
16:15<Cyorxamp>lol
16:16<amphi>EmleyMoor: so it would seem (except in the case of ad-hoc)
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16:17<EmleyMoor>amphi: So I could use that to distinguish betweem similarly named networks/provide extra safety, except where the same network has two APs... good
16:17<noflash>Cyorxamp, look at debian.org/CD...but I think that it was just a partial freeze
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16:28<MADDASH>is it possible to set a global postinst so that dpkg will run a script after a successful addition of a package?
16:28<p1ngp0ng>do i really need 3 dvds to install debian?
16:29<upsilon>no
16:29<superbeast>no
16:29<superbeast>you need the dvd 1
16:29<superbeast>or cd 1
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16:29<p1ngp0ng>allright
16:29<defrysk>p1ngp0ng, you need one netinstall cd
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16:29<p1ngp0ng>what is on dvd 2 and 3 then?
16:29<p1ngp0ng>netinstall cd. is that like a online install?
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16:30<defrysk>p1ngp0ng, yup
16:30<p1ngp0ng>cool
16:30<m_101>hi
16:30<defrysk>there is an etch and a lenny version
16:30<defrysk>also a business card version
16:30<m_101>the dvd are made accordings to the statistics on packages usage
16:30<m_101>the most used packages are more likely to be in the first DVD ;)
16:30<defrysk>businesscardversion i like best
16:30<p1ngp0ng>ah, ok. thats alot of packages i must say
16:31<defrysk>its only a 30 meg download
16:31<defrysk>and install a full fledged gnome desktop
16:31<defrysk>freshly downloaded from the main repository
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16:33<p1ngp0ng>so, before i burn this disc. debian-40r4a-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso that is the one im after right?
16:34<p1ngp0ng>i only got 2 cds left, and my usb dongle is missing. so i just dont wanna mess up
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16:36<defrysk>why dont people buy rewritables ?
16:36<h2-gw>p1ngp0ng, it depends on what you want to install
16:36<h2-gw>I prefer the business card, minus the desktop option
16:37<defrysk>businesscard also selects the proper x86 kernel which is nice
16:37<p1ngp0ng>i want the base systm with gnome desktop. and i want to sellect which packages to install
16:37<h2-gw>yes, it does a good job with the kernel, I noticed that
16:37<m_101>if you really don't want to burn a cd
16:37<m_101>install it by TFTP
16:37<m_101>;)
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16:37<p1ngp0ng>i would use tftp if i hate a another computer :P
16:37<dmoerner>m_101, or just bootstrap it from another livecd, which is what i always do
16:38<h2-gw>defrysk, rewritables don't always work on older systems though
16:38<p1ngp0ng>hmm, or wait, i can probably use a shellbox with tftp huh?
16:38<m_101>dmoerner, ... what the difference? .... you have to burn this live cd ....
16:38<p1ngp0ng>ugh, hate=had*
16:38*defrysk has his first 64bit lappie :D
16:38<defrysk>\o/
16:39<dmoerner>m_101, who doesn't have a knoppix cd or something already lying around though?
16:39<dmoerner>or you can just install it off the hard disk with the netinst initrd.g
16:39<dmoerner>z
16:39<dmoerner>no need to set up tftp
16:39*defrysk has a pile of rewritable dvd's laying around
16:39<defrysk>cant do without them
16:39<p1ngp0ng>i miss my usb dongle :(
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16:40*defrysk has a flashcard iserted
16:40<defrysk>or whatever it is called
16:40<m_101>ok defrysk ...
16:40<defrysk>all that new technology
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16:40<m_101>going google it for bootstrapping for livecd
16:41<m_101>anyway .... on SPARC arch .... no autoboot ... so TFTP ... ;)
16:41<m_101>(or if someone has doc on bootstrapping from live cd ... I'm interested ;) )
16:42<dmoerner>m_101, you could just use the official docs: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apds03.html
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16:43<h2-gw>defrysk, the last netinstall cd I burned wouldn't boot on some hardware too
16:43<h2-gw>but businesscard was fine
16:43<p1ngp0ng>bootstraping? is that installing using the current hdd with a linux partition containing iso?
16:43<p1ngp0ng>or something?
16:43<dmoerner>p1ngp0ng, you use debootstrap to build a debian system by hand on the hard disk
16:44<dmoerner>you do everything the installer does by hand, basically
16:44<p1ngp0ng>aaah
16:44<p1ngp0ng>sounds like fun
16:44<m_101>thx dmoerner ^^
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16:44<m_101>going to read this doc when I have time
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16:44<m_101>for now ... I'm configuring some monitoring server ;)
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16:48<angasule_>reading the debian policy manual is fun :P
16:49<p1ngp0ng>does my swap still need to be twice my memory, or is that from the old days?
16:50<Gathond>p1ngp0ng: need ... no
16:50<angasule_>that's from the old days, lots of factors have to be taken into account
16:50<p1ngp0ng>but its to my advantage yes. ok
16:50<h2-gw>p1ngp0ng, for suspend to disk, it's useful
16:51<p1ngp0ng>got it
16:51<Gathond>p1ngp0ng: having some swap might be beneficial though, and having the memory size + some is required to hibernate the machine
16:51<p1ngp0ng>thanks
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16:51<Gathond>or not actually required, a file can be used but is slightly less optimal
16:51<Gathond>and diskspace is cheap:)
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16:52<angasule_>of course, if you have a very very old disk, you might prefer an out of memory kill that waiting for the system while it's thrashing *angry look at laptop*
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16:52<MADDASH>is it possible to set a global postinst so that dpkg will run a script after a successful addition of a package?
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16:55<dondelelcaro>MADDASH: for what purpose? there are triggers, but it depends on what you're trying to do.
16:55<p1ngp0ng>ok, thanks for the info. im going to install debian now. hopefully you wont see me again in a while :P
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17:01<MADDASH>dondelelcaro: I'd like to run 'update-menus' after each installation
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17:07<dondelelcaro>MADDASH: uh... it already is run if it needs to be
17:08<dondelelcaro>MADDASH: in modern versions of dpkg, it's run using triggers
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17:09<Flinx>I feel like a noob for asking this but here goes.
17:10<Flinx>in the apt-get manpage there is an option " -o=? Set an arbitary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp "
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17:10<dondelelcaro>Flinx: man apt.conf; is what you're looking for
17:10<Flinx>is that where I would put things like "-non-interactive"
17:10<Flinx>dondelelcaro, I've already found it
17:11<valdyn>Flinx: no
17:11<dondelelcaro>Flinx: no, that's a DEBIAN_FRONTEND value
17:11<Flinx>Oh okay
17:11<dondelelcaro>Flinx: man 7 debconf; for details
17:11<lestat>hi...how can i change the jigdo directories? i would like change to my partition ntfs and not my /home
17:12<Flinx>The root issue, If i installed Postfix from sources I could choose "sh postfix-install ... -non-interactive"
17:12<Flinx>*reading manpages*
17:13<lestat>my partition is litle to put an .iso file...i need save ".iso.tmp jigdo´s file" to other partition
17:13<Flinx>I think I see now
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17:14<Flinx>I would do something like "debconf --frontend=readline sh postfix-install ... -non-interactive" ?
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17:15<Flinx>well.. with changing --frontend to --apt-get?
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17:17<dondelelcaro>Flinx: huh?
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17:18<dondelelcaro>Flinx: that stuff only has relevance for Debian packages, and debconf itself obeys the DEBIAN_FRONTEND environmental variable
17:18<Flinx>rgiht
17:18<Flinx>I have a debian package for postfix
17:19<Flinx>but instead of having to answer the prompts I would ideally set a config switch to -non-interactive
17:19<lestat>hi...how can i change the jigdo directories? i would like change to my partition ntfs and not use my "/home"
17:19<MADDASH>dondelelcaro: where are these triggers that you refer to?
17:19<Flinx>is there a way to do that w/o rebuilding the .deb?
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17:19<MADDASH>dondelelcaro: besides the postinst scripts inside each individual package
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17:22<dondelelcaro>Flinx: so run DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive dpkg -i postfixblahblah.deb;
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17:22<dondelelcaro>MADDASH: man 5 deb-triggers; man dpkg-trigger;
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17:23<Flinx>dondelelcaro, alright thanks :D
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17:33<mihau>good evening
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17:39<kurumin>oi
17:39<kurumin>alguem desse lado?
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17:44<EmleyMoor>Well, I've finally got a lenny box that works nicely :-)
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17:52<EmleyMoor>(I've got another that works perfectly, but it's not a "desktop environment" machine
17:52<EmleyMoor>)
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18:00<johns>any further ideas for bluetooth modules to load? I've loaded all the ones listed in the om kernel config... because bluetooth works when I boot into that
18:00<johns>sigh, ww
18:00<johns>though maybe someone here knows the answer, it's for debian on the freerunner ;)
18:01<johns>hciconfig is not showing any devices
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18:04*EmleyMoor hopes the money for the new system is coming next week
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18:19<EmleyMoor>Can I allocate a 169.254 address to my wireless interface if it connects to a known insecure network? (by SSID and BSSID)
18:19<EmleyMoor>If so - what do I need to do?
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18:22<EmleyMoor>(Can I, for instance, allocate such an address statically, based on an id_str set by wpa_supplicant?)
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18:22<mihau>hello again ;p
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18:23<mihau>how can I connect a notebook with a pc via lan?
18:23<mihau>both machines got installed debian etch
18:23<witte>!ipmasq
18:23<dpkg>If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html
18:24<mihau>hum
18:24<mihau>ill try that ;p
18:24<witte>mihau: you need that on the server
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18:24<mihau>and the problem is\
18:24<mihau>there is no server ;p
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18:25<witte>if i am correct the laptop will be able to internet via dhcp
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18:25<EmleyMoor>The server, in this case, is the machine with the Internet connection
18:25<witte>mihau: what is your setup (server is the one connecting to the net)
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18:25<mihau>well
18:25<mihau>actuall notebook is connected via cable to the net
18:25<EmleyMoor>And the other machine?
18:25<mihau>but mainly the pc is
18:26<mihau>now its bot
18:26<mihau>not*
18:26<EmleyMoor>You mean you have just one connection?
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18:26<mihau>exactly
18:26<EmleyMoor>You need to put a second ethernet card in the desktop machine
18:26<mihau>ive got, integrated one
18:26<EmleyMoor>You connect the laptop to that with a crossover cable
18:27<witte>mihau: i would advise you to buy a cheap router (40 ?)
18:27<EmleyMoor>mihau: You have two ethernet interfaces already on the desktop machine?
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18:27<mihau>well, i don't want to connect both machines to the net
18:27<EmleyMoor>Yes, buying a commercially-made router is another way - and easy too
18:27<witte>that will give you security (firewall) + easy configuration + 4 ethernet ports (if you choose correctly)
18:27<mihau>i want to connect them to shjare files
18:28<EmleyMoor>mihau: Ah, so you want to link them together for filesharing when not on the Internet?
18:28<mihau>yeah
18:28<witte>still, the router would be easiest :P
18:28<EmleyMoor>A cheap router might help, but alternatively, a crossover cable and appropriate network addressing would do.
18:28<mihau>how to do the3 second thing?
18:29<witte>I agree, just assign a static ip in the same range on both pc's
18:29<mihau>buying router is pointless right now, cause i'm leaving home soon
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18:29<mihau>and i want to send some music, movies, etc
18:29<witte>mihau: for instance 192.168.2.2 and 192.168.2.3
18:29<mihau>and how should i do it?
18:30<mihau>step by step guid would be nice ;p
18:30<mihau>guide*
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18:30<witte>mihau: well, you cant connect two devices directly unless you have a crossed cable
18:31<witte>mihau: otherwise you need a hub/switch/router
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18:31<mihau>what do you mean by a crossed cable?
18:31<mihau>how does it look like?
18:31<witte>mihau: if you have the connection, it is just a matter of configuring your devices
18:31<witte>mihau: like an utp cable with the connections inside twisted
18:32<mihau>well, i've got one, at least it looks like it
18:32<EmleyMoor>It has pin 1 at one end to 3 at the other, 2 to 6
18:32<EmleyMoor>(the same both ways)
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18:33<witte>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
18:33<EmleyMoor>If it's 1-1, 2-2 etc, it's a "drop" cable and you'd need two, with a hub or switch between them)
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18:33<witte>mihau: the problem is that it looks exactly like an other ethernet cable...
18:34<mihau>humm
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18:34<mihau>i took that cable from a box where my internet modem was ;p
18:34<mihau>so, maybe it's not right cable
18:34<EmleyMoor>I carry one with my laptop but haven't actually used it for a few years
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18:34<witte>mihau: well, it depends on the modem, but it probably won't work...
18:34<mihau>so that's my problem
18:35<EmleyMoor>(I haven't even used the drop cable for about 18 months!)
18:35<mihau>a cable ;d
18:35<mihau>well, thanks for help and explanations guys ;)
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18:49<mihau>got another problem
18:49<mihau>got Mesa 3D GL driver at the notebook
18:50<mihau>af
18:50<mihau>got Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
18:50<mihau>at the notebook
18:50<mihau>which drivers are best?
18:50<mihau>to get better resolution of the screen
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19:03<b52laptop>body is there a tool that bakcup my debian install and can easly restore it ?
19:03<b52laptop>body/ppl
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19:13<Cribozai>hi, can any1 work with me here a bit. Newbie question. Howto put the output of date into a mail subject sent with mail -s <subject> <recipient>?
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19:16<Cribozai>nvm, i figured it out.
19:17<witte>b52laptop: what happened, do you need a reinstall?
19:17<witte>!reinstall
19:17<dpkg>reinstall is, like, aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone>. <debian clone>
19:18<witte>!debian clone
19:18<dpkg>One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". you may want to ask me about <aptitude clone>
19:18<witte>of course that will not backup your data, only your system (without most of the configurations)
19:19<Cholito>this leaves me with a broken link, why? ==> alejandro@matos:~/www$ ln -s ../MP3 music
19:20<Cholito>and localhost/music gives me 403 =(
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19:21<witte>Cholito: what does "ls -al ../MP3" give
19:21<Cholito>lrwxrwxrwx 1 alejandro alejandro 6 ago 21 01:18 music -> ../MP3
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19:22<witte>and 'ls -al music"
19:23<b52laptop>widrone, well i'm fighting comfiguring my system and i am tired of doing from scratch D:
19:23<Zathras>hi. I want to dh-make-pecl a package for php5 which supports DOM XML. But I guess I am mistaken by the package name. How does this work please?
19:23<Zathras>ext/dom does not work as a name
19:23<Cholito>witte, same ==> lrwxrwxrwx 1 alejandro alejandro 6 ago 21 01:18 music -> ../MP3
19:25<witte>Cholito: that is odd (and something is wrong there)
19:25<Cholito>yeah
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19:26<Cholito>I don't know how to debug it thou... =/
19:27<witte>b52laptop: you could use the stuff i mentioned earlier or maybe systemimager (nerver used it)
19:27<witte>!systemimager
19:27<dpkg>well, systemimager is http://www.systemimager.org/ similar to Norton Ghost but free/libre.
19:27<b52laptop>nice
19:27<witte>Cholito: is there something in one of those files/directories
19:27<b52laptop>will look for systemimager :d
19:27<b52laptop>witte, thanks
19:28<witte>b52laptop: but it is very rarely that you should reinstall
19:28<witte>b52laptop: only if you really really really skrew things up
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19:28<Cholito>witte, well, MP3 exists, and music don't ;)
19:29<witte>Cholito: rm music, and do ls -al ../MP3
19:29<b52laptop>hm ok
19:30<Cholito>witte, lol
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19:30<Cholito>witte, I have a link inside /home/me/www/ to /var/www
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19:31<Cholito>so, I made a mistake doing a link inside /home/me/www/ to '../MP3'
19:31<witte>Cholito: i was suspecting something like that :-)
19:31<Cholito>the correct link would be ln -s /home/me/MP3 music
19:32<Cholito>hehe
19:32<Cholito>witte, thanks!! =)))
19:32<witte>you are welcome
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19:38<huobo>I would like to back up grub/mbr onto a usb drive (bootable) in case leopard overwrites it. Will a dd of the first 512 bytes to /dev/usb be enough?
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19:40<witte>!grub floppy
19:40<dpkg>grub floppy image is probably http://packages.debian.org/grub-disk, or http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Creating-a-GRUB-boot-floppy.html, or ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/
19:41<witte>huobo: otherwise, just boot from a linux cd (installer rescue or live cd), chroot to the disk and reinstall grub...
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19:45<huobo>witte: thanks, laptop doesn't have a cd drive
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19:47<Cholito>how wrong is to have a link in /home/me/www/ pointing to /var/www/
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19:48<witte>Cholito: the other way around seems more logical
19:48<Cholito>uhmmm, that's right...
19:48<Cholito>good call
19:48<witte>huobo: ok, the dpkg line should still work i guess
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19:49<witte>Cholito: maybe you are interested in usermod
19:49<knoppix_>join
19:50<witte>Cholito: that will make home directories ~/public_html active
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19:50<witte>Cholito: you can go to http://localhost/~username/
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19:50<witte>!usermod
19:50<dpkg>usermod is, like, a command to modify the system account files ( /etc/passwd and /etc/group ). It will perform changes as specified in the command line.
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19:51<witte>sorry, that is the wrong factiod
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19:54<Cholito>this should be right? ln -s /home/alejandro/www /var/www
19:55<witte>Cholito: it could be, but you need to be carefull with permissions
19:55<Cholito>I set it to 775
19:55<witte>I am not sure about security as well, if you want to put them really online, this could be a problem, if it is behind a firewall, that would ok
19:55<Cholito>cuz I get a 403 again
19:56<Cholito>no, this is just an intranet :)
19:56<witte>Cholito: do you get something if you do echo "test" > /var/www/thisistest.txt
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19:56<witte>Cholito: and afterwards go to /var/www/thisistest.txt
19:57<witte>sorry, to http://localhost/thisistest.txt
19:57<Cholito>You don't have permission to access /thisistest.txt on this server
19:57<witte>in which line
19:57<witte>when you make it?
19:57<Cholito>localhost
19:58<Cholito>I can't even get to http://localhost
19:58<Cholito>I get a 403
19:58<witte>how did you set up your web server
19:58<Cholito>aptitude install foo :)
19:59<stevecotton>Cholito - your home directory needs to be executable by other for ~/public_html (and anything under it) to be accessible
19:59<witte>stevecotton: good call
20:00<Cholito>if I have /var/www linked to /home/me/www I can access localhost
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20:03<lucas_amorim>hello, I have just installed the package sun-java6-plugin but when
20:03<lucas_amorim>I run update-alternatives --sonfig java
20:03<lucas_amorim>config*
20:04<lucas_amorim>the option for the sun java does not appear
20:04<lucas_amorim>only gij e gcj
20:04<witte>lucas_amorim: java is not in the plugin but in the bin or jre
20:05<lucas_amorim>hum... ok, gonna try
20:05<witte>lucas_amorim: or even in the jdk (depending on which java i guess)
20:05<Aleric>Is there a 64bit java yet?
20:05<Aleric>for firefox
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20:06<lucas_amorim>I have sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre also installed
20:06<witte>Aleric: not that i know, but i am not sure
20:06<witte>lucas_amorim: which debian
20:06<lucas_amorim>witte: lenny
20:06<lucas_amorim>I have always installed and selected it this way
20:06<lucas_amorim>to use it in icewesel
20:06<lucas_amorim>to use it in iceweasel
20:07<witte>lucas_amorim: which version do you have for sun-java6-jre (i have 6-07-3)
20:07<lucas_amorim>I have the same as you
20:07<witte>lucas_amorim: mine works...
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20:08<lucas_amorim>does it appear in your update-alternatives --config java ??
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20:08<lucas_amorim>I also tried to set it up manually running update-alternatives --set java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/jre/bin/java
20:08<Aleric>lucas_amorim: http://codepad.org/cYIRuHu4
20:09<witte>http://pastebin.ca/1180189
20:09<lucas_amorim>but it complained like this: update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/jre/bin/java'.
20:09<witte>Aleric: ok, you beat me to it :P
20:10<witte>lucas_amorim: try to reinstall the java packages
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20:12<Cholito>again, ln -s /var/www /home/alejandro/ ==> localhost ok || but ln -s /home/alejandro/MP3/ /home/alejandro/www/ ==> 403 =S
20:12<Cholito>oops
20:13<Cholito>again, ln -s /var/www /home/alejandro/ ==> localhost ok || but ln -s /home/alejandro/www /var/ ==> 403 =S
20:13<Cholito>even seting it to 777 gives me 403
20:14*Aleric wonders what 403 means.
20:15<Cholito>forbidden
20:15<Cholito>!403
20:15<dpkg>well, 403 is forbidden
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20:16<Cholito>I don't understand why =(
20:16<Aleric>You're not allowed to access directories by following symlinks outside of a specified root directory.
20:17<Aleric>So, the symlink you try to follow points outside the allowed directory. You'll need to fix your config.
20:18<Cholito>apache's config, right?
20:18<Aleric>yes
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20:22*Cholito is reading apache2 docs...
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20:23<witte>Cholito: you should maybe read about "a2enmod usermod"
20:24<Cholito>I would like to use just http://localhost/ and not localhost/~me/ =/
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20:40*Cholito seems to be happy to get it working
20:41<witte>Cholito: what was it
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20:41<Cholito>chmod o+x /home -R
20:41<Villarroel>Hello!
20:42<Cholito>and then life was just perfect :)
20:42<witte>Cholito: like stevecotton mentioned
20:42<witte>Cholito: do you know what that does?
20:42<Villarroel>Ubuntu is based on Debian, right?
20:42<witte>!based on debian
20:42<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
20:42<witte>Villarroel: but yes
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20:43<witte>Cholito: it makes all files in any home directory excicutable by anyone
20:43<Cholito>I know
20:43<Cholito>being the only one using linux and having a firewall, I don't worry that much
20:44<witte>Cholito: you'd better put your mp3 files in /MP3 or /music, and set the settings correct for htat, would be much nicer
20:44<Villarroel>Guys, I have Debian installed on my desktop. But when I try to install it on my laptop i get a lot of missbehavings.
20:44<witte>Cholito: you might also want to look at mpd, then you can use your webbrowser to start music, even from other pc's
20:45<Cholito>so, mp3 in / and the a ln in my own home to that folder, right?
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20:45<Cholito>even using windows?
20:45<Villarroel>And with Ubuntu I get perfect hardware detection on the same laptop, why is this happening.
20:45<witte>Cholito: no, mp3 in / or /mnt or whereever, and a link to the /var/www
20:46<witte>Cholito: if your linux is on, from an other, windows pc you can control sound, yes
20:46<witte>Villarroel: newer kernel, did you try installing a 2.6.24 or higher kernel
20:46<Villarroel>2.6.25
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20:46<widrone>Villarroel: Short version, there may be non free code snippets needed to get all that laptop hw rolling.
20:46<witte>Villarroel: ok, what does not work
20:47<Villarroel>witte: As far as now... display is not working ok.
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20:47<witte>Villarroel: lspci |grep -i vga
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20:48<Villarroel>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
20:48<witte>!drxx
20:48<dpkg>To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but ask me about <sarge->etch>.
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20:49<witte>the intel driver should be well supported
20:49<Villarroel>I have tried drxx.
20:49<witte>Villarroel: make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed
20:49<Villarroel>I do.
20:49<witte>Villarroel: are you using etch?
20:49<witte>Villarroel: which version of the intel driver?
20:50<Villarroel>Yes. But I have upgraded xorg to the experimental version.
20:50<Villarroel>And still getting the same error.
20:50<witte>Villarroel: you use etch, with the experimental drivers of xorg
20:50<witte>wow
20:50<witte>!experimental
20:50<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/
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20:50<witte>Villarroel: which error, this is the first time that you mention you have an error
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20:54<Villarroel>Can make it work at 1280x800, the resolution is set to 1024x768 and i get a black border on the right, and at the bottom (like 300px repeats the upper side of the screen, it is messed up)
20:55<witte>Villarroel: which error?
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20:55<witte>Villarroel: upload your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a pastebin
20:55<witte>!pastebin
20:55<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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20:56<Villarroel>witte: please wait, I have noticed that the "lspci | grep -i vga" string I get on Debian is different from the one I pasted. I have to reboot.
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20:57<Villarroel>It is like the same but does not shows the model of the card.
20:57<witte>!update-pciids
20:57<witte>!pciids
20:57<dpkg>i guess pciids is run update-pciids or see http://pciids.sourceforge.net/, or run update-pciids to update your PCI ID database, if your lspci output shows "unknown device"
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20:58<Villarroel>Please wait.
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20:58<ouch>hello, i'm having an issue with the installer, is it not possable to use the installer to install to a hdd rather than a partition ?
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20:58<norbert_>hi all, I'm stuck trying to run Gnome's alacarte, I've talked about it with someone in #gnome ( see http://paste.debian.net/15258/ ), but we both came to the conclusion I'll probably need some expert Debian help here... anyone? :)
20:59<witte>ouch: you can make one single partition on a hard disk...
20:59<ouch>witte no. i can't i'll lose data.
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21:00<ouch>witte is the installer not capable of installing to the disk ?
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21:01<witte>ouch: i think i do not understand your question
21:01<ouch>witte sorry. i don't understand what it is that you don't understand... o.O
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21:02<clint1986_>the whole hard drive?
21:02<witte>ouch: what are you trying to do
21:02<ouch>clint1986_ yes
21:02<clint1986_>if so, then it's just one big partition
21:02<ouch>witte install debian
21:02<clint1986_>and yes, the debian installer can just use the entire disk, if you want
21:02<clint1986_>it will ask you
21:02<ouch>clint1986_ no. it has no partition.
21:02<norbert_>anyone?
21:02<clint1986_>it will make one
21:02<witte>norbert_: how did you install alacarte
21:03<clint1986_>one big one taking up the whole disk
21:03<clint1986_>if you want it to
21:03<ouch>clint1986_ no i can't let it do that. i will lose data if it makes a partition.
21:03<norbert_>witte: via apt-get
21:03<clint1986_>oh, write to an already existing partition?
21:03<clint1986_>and just plonk itself in there?
21:03<ouch>clint1986_ no. there is no partition
21:03<witte>norbert_: ok, in that case, it should work, i will try it
21:04<ouch>just want to install on the disk.
21:04<ouch>it's formated ext3
21:04<clint1986_>so you have deleted a partition by mistake and don't want to overwrite?
21:04<ouch>clint1986_ no.
21:04<clint1986_>well if there isn't one and you haven't removed it...
21:04<clint1986_>what is there?
21:04<ouch>a file system on the disk
21:04<clint1986_>ok
21:04<ouch>with data on it.
21:05<clint1986_>that's gonna boil down to a partition at the end of the day
21:05<clint1986_>in some form
21:05<ouch>clint1986_ wrong.
21:05<ouch>there is no partition.l
21:05<clint1986_>then how did you make an ext3 fs on there in the first place?
21:05<ouch>with mke2fs -j /dev/hda
21:06<clint1986_>even if you don't split up into multiple partitions and use the whole disk, it's still a partition
21:06<clint1986_>just one large one
21:06<clint1986_>that takes the whole drive
21:06<ouch>clint1986_ you are proving to be ignorant to how things work. so lets stopl.
21:06<witte>ouch: you are the ignorant one if you cant express your problem
21:07<widrone>ouch: You are unable to state you question in a clear manner it seems.
21:07<clint1986_>ok, i'll let someone else handle this then
21:07<widrone>ouch: Try again please, you want to install debian yes.
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21:07<widrone>ouch: You have a disk with one partition (with something on it you dont want to desroy) So far so good?
21:07<norbert_>*sigh* :|
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21:08<witte>norbert_: mm, it fails on start when i use it on etch, strange, don't see anything in the BTS
21:08<norbert_>witte: ok
21:08<norbert_>witte: same error as me?
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21:08<witte>norbert_: wait, i do see something,
21:08<widrone>ouch: Still abit unclear what you want the d-i to do, but Im guessing it can be done in the end...
21:08<witte>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362592
21:09<norbert_>witte: strange, I do not get a segmentation fault
21:09<ouch>witte i have expressed it. let me repete. i have an hdd (hda to be exact) with a file system on it. it has no partition at all. i booted the debian install cd and entered expert mode, proceeded to the install-base-system step and it loops back to the partitioner where there is no option that i can find to install on the whole disk. so i exit that, and mount /dev/hda on /target and try to proceed. cant!
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21:10<ouch>is this a limitation in the installer that i will have to work around myself or is there a way to proceed to install on hda ?
21:11<clint1986_>you need to make a partition taking up the whole drive and choose a filesystem - it's that simple
21:11<clint1986_>or do you want the old one back?
21:12<ouch>clint1986_ not an option for me. i CAN NOT MAKE ANY PARTITION ON THAT DISK, or i will lose valuable data that i'm not willing to lose.
21:12<witte>ouch: I did not try to do something like that before, but you will loose all data on the disk anyhow if you install on that disk
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21:12<clint1986_>but you don't mount /dev/hda
21:12<clint1986_>it would be /dev/hda1
21:12<ouch>clint1986_ wrong
21:13<witte>clint1986_: you can do that, it is a bit unusual, but i have for instance one memory stick that does it like that, and it also works for hdd
21:13<widrone>ouch: So you got something occupying the WHOLE disk already that you dont want to loose, but you still want to install something new on top. Now sure if that is possible in this world yet.
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21:14<ouch>clint1986_ wrong! wrong! WRONG! i have ext3 filesystem on /dev/hda period.
21:14<witte>norbert_: could be that my error is because i have gnome not installed on my server
21:14<clint1986_>but /dev/hda is just the disk
21:14<ouch>widrone i've done it before, just not with this installer app.
21:14<widrone>ouch: If you do have something set up to run on hda you have a *very* strange setup (I hope for a good reason).
21:14<clint1986_>the device to the system
21:14<witte>clint1986_: you can put the filesystem in the beginning of the disk
21:14<ouch>clint1986_ exactlyh "<clint1986_> but /dev/hda is just the disk" <<< about time you cought on....
21:14<witte>clint1986_: like i said unusual (would not recommend it) but possible
21:14<widrone>ouch: Im not saying its impossible to run raw on the whole disk, but you running from the openbsd crowd or something?
21:15<clint1986_>ouch: there is no need to be rude
21:15<ouch>clint1986_ ok. sorry. but there is no need for you to insist that you have knowledge that i don't either.
21:16<widrone>ouch: skipping the partman (partitioner part) and mounting whatever device on /target should get you thru Im guessin. But this *will* blow away your "old" data on the disk no matter what.
21:16<witte>ouch: seems that you have made a mistake when making the filesystem, copy the valuable data somewhere and make a partition table afterwards
21:16<clint1986_>i haven't insisted anything, i'm letting you know as much as i can in the hope it helps you understand your own problem
21:16<ouch>widrone why so ? mke2fs will refuse to format a mounted fs ?
21:17<clint1986_>and whatever you're doing sounds so rare i could only encounter it on irc
21:17<ouch>witte wasn't a mistake.
21:17<ouch>clint1986_ indeed. :)
21:18<clint1986_>sorry i couldn't help - but there are some very wise people on here that might know what you've done and/or are doing
21:18<widrone>ouch: Escaping from the sanity checks Im guessing it does, letting you do this wierd out of the ordinary install to a disk (not partition).
21:18<ouch>clint1986_ thanks for the attempt, as frustrating as it was, i still apreicate the thought.
21:19<witte>ouch: could be, but if it was a partitoin you could have resised your valuable data "partition" and made a new one for debian to be installed
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21:19<mattl>ouch: do you have a second hard disk?
21:19<widrone>ouch: Im slow, but this ext3 fs on the hda... its that one you want to write new files thru during the install?
21:20<stevecotton>I understand what ouch is saying. But all I can say is "in theory it should be possible, but it's quiet unusual, and I look forward to hearing how you get on". :(
21:20<ouch>witte i know. it might have been a miscalculation, in that i was not thinking far enough ahead 5 years ago when i started using partitionless hdd's but it was not a mistake in the sense of unintentional or in error.
21:21<widrone>Im just trying to explain that its so unusual that he better have backups, I dont see this endeing too good.
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21:21<stevecotton>Oh and "now is /always/ a good time to make a backup, unless now is the time that you realise that /then/ was a good time to make a backup"
21:21<ouch>mattl yes. but it has the root fs of another "ubuntu" on it.
21:21<clint1986_>under what circumstances do you normally do it?
21:21<clint1986_>write the fs to the drive itself, that is
21:22<clint1986_>is it faster or something?
21:22<Cholito>how come mt-daapd is in stable and sid, but not in testing?
21:23<ouch>clint1986_ install time. but in this case the installer of debian seems to omit that option altogather.
21:23<widrone>ouch: If you are using the "partition" as a target it will be overwriting during install anyway, if you want two different installs you need 2 partitions.
21:23<widrone>Cholito: I think it may be called firefly now
21:23<witte>ouch: you could try #debian-boot, but i am not sure they support install questions (rather a developpers channel)
21:23<stevecotton>I vaguely recall a system for installing Linux as a test-drive on Windows PCs; where you made a big file on the FAT partition, put an ext2 filesystem in that file, and then installed Linux in there. The same trick might be applicable here.
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21:24<mattl>Cholito: because it was replaced or someone stopped maintaining it?
21:24<Cholito>widrone, noup =/
21:24<ouch>clint1986_ faster no. i can't detect any real advantage in performance i supose i started using whole disk fs's out of curiosity and .... just liked it.
21:24<widrone>ouch: But like I said, if partman aint got support for hda direct, skip it and mount the /target yourself.
21:24<Cholito>mattl, then why is still in sid?
21:24<kurumin>????????????????
21:24<kurumin>????????????
21:24<widrone>Cholito: Damn, just guessing. Maybe they recently included none free parts and was moved?
21:24<kurumin>??????????
21:25<clint1986_>ouch: i'm sorry i wasn't able to get what you trying to say - it's seems quite rare and i've never heard of it - sorry
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21:25<gsimmons>!tell Cholito -about why isn't mt-daapd in testing
21:25<widrone>ouch: This will surely result in corruption of whatever was on the partiotion, so you have been warned. ;)
21:25<widrone>!tell widrone -about why isn't mt-daapd in testing
21:25<ouch>widrone sorry, if you missed my post that said i did that before i even came here asking. having the fs mounted doesn't seem to help, the install base system process still loops to the partitioner and yes i know that i have to cd into the mountpoint to keep it from umounting it too.
21:26<Cholito>gsimmons, thanks! =)
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21:27<ouch>clint1986_ like i said. it's ok. was frustrating, but we got past it. all is well. and i thank you for your effort.
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21:29<clint1986_>sorry to the others helping out too, when i was going down the wrong track
21:29<clint1986_>:p
21:30<witte>clint1986_: you weren't too far off, i also found it hard to figure out what ouch ment ;-)
21:30<widrone>ouch: Hm, under 2 hours ago that I exited out of the partman part of the installer to mount some partitions by hand (disk was not recogniced). So just figured it still worked. Im testing some lowmem d-i beta installer thu, so I believe you.
21:30<ouch>i'm kinda at a loss. i did this same thing with the ubuntu hoary hedghog installer which seems to be the same debian installer but i can't get this one to proceed for some reason. ay thanks for all the input. really i didn't mean to cause such a seen here. i'll move on now.
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21:31<ouch>and stevecotton "no replacement for backups" :)
21:31<witte>ouch: just try #debian-boot
21:31<ouch>witte k.
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21:31<witte>they are the real experts, they make the installer
21:32<witte>but mind that it is a developpers channel, so ask if you can ask :-)
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21:44<ouch>oh man. i jsut did it. ffr. at the point where the installer wants to loop back to the partitioner, hit <back> three times and it will proceed installing the base system hehhe stumbled onto it with the ole trial and error methood :)))
21:45<ouch>thanks for everything, i'm sure i'll be back around!
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23:46<Einhart>Hello debian
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