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---Logopened Tue Aug 26 00:00:40 2008
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00:54<jcesar>someone I can recommend a good player for music debian lenny than amaro
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00:56<infotron>!tell jcesar -about search
00:57<rocksolid>i just upgraded (lenny) and now i'm getting this every few seconds ... [ 676.286266] EDAC MC0: UE row 0, channel-a= 0 channel-b= 1 labels "-": (Branch=0 DRAM-Bank=3 RDWR=Read RAS=13937 CAS=0 FATAL Err=0x4) ... anyone else have that or know what it is/how to fix it?
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00:58<jcesar>I like audacious but I do not work in debian lenny
00:58<infotron>rocksolid: sounds like it's time to stress test it with memtest86+
00:58<rocksolid>its happening on 2 different machines (identical except for hard drive configuration)
00:58<rocksolid>but i will try the memtest
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01:06<jcesar>as update has a version of the kernel more modern debian lenny
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01:07<infotron>haha. say modern and lenny in the same thought after it's part of stable. ;)
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01:09<jcesar>infotron, I have the kernel 2.6.24-1-686 not need to upgrade to a more updated version
01:10<infotron>yes, merly in jest. For once someone is calling debian modern. so I had to joke about it. that's all.
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01:22<xygg>anyone able to see what the problem with this is? echo printed on: $(date `%b, %D %Y`).
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01:27<Ryan52>xygg: echo $(date '+%b, %D %Y')
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01:29<xygg>thanks. was editing a backup script... kinda had it figured out (removed the $(...) but wasn't sure. anyway, thanks
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02:05<amol>hi to all i am not able to print in debian ,getting error as cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found
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02:14<ubuntu>大家好
02:14<blarson>!zh
02:14<dpkg>[cn] China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
02:15<ubuntu>Thank you!
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02:20<infotron>ubuntu: /topic
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02:27<robotook>I'm trying to get gnome-terminal to display the last command I typed but my zprofile is not working gnome-terminal, works for other terms, and $TERM var should be included but the preexec isn't running
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02:29<jaek>anyone got a bluetooth mouse working on lenny/sid?
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02:38<jaek>i'm trying to get my bluetooth mouse working on sid but the gnome bluetooth applet does not have any services listed... am i missing something or is it just broken?
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02:56<amol>hi to all i am not able to print in debian ,getting error as cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found
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02:59<morgan`>hi
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03:02<jaek>what group is my user supposed to be in to have access to bluetooth services?
03:04<clint1986>morgan`: hello :)
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03:07<clint1986>jaek: is bluetooth all set up in your kernel and such?
03:07<jaek>yeah it is
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03:08<jaek>i see the bluetooth gnome applet, but it just doesnt list any services
03:08<jaek>i think my user doesnt have the permissions or something
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03:09<clint1986>jaek: http://wiki.debian.org/HOWTO/BluetoothMouse
03:10<clint1986>jaek: have you had a look at this yet?
03:10<jaek>yes, it assumes the services list is populated to configure the mouse
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03:12<jaek>i'm beggining to wonder if my user account is not included in the right group or something
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03:12<clint1986>jaek: hcitool dev
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03:12<clint1986>jaek: do you get anything?
03:12<clint1986>jaek: sorry, that's a command
03:13<jaek>yeah i get the bid of my adapter
03:13<deryj>:help
03:13<deryj>How do I get help on irssi...?
03:13<clint1986>jaek: ok, it's all working it seems
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03:14<clint1986>deryj: what's up?
03:14<jon_>man irssi is one way
03:14<jon_>but not from within irssi :)
03:14<jaek>no... the gnome bluetooth applet's service list is empty
03:14<deryj>I am a newbie. Thanks. I will open another terminal to get help
03:15<clint1986>jaek: the bluetooth adapter is what i meant
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03:16<clint1986>jaek: is it a broadcom bluetooth adapter?
03:16<jaek>running as root 'hcitool --connect [my mouse id]' does work
03:16<jaek>but i want to configure it automatically via the right tool
03:17<jon_>what's hci?
03:17<clint1986>you could always set up a script at startup for that command
03:17<clint1986>the gnome tool might just not like your mouse
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03:18<jon_>what kind of mouse do you hv?
03:18<jaek>no, the services list is empty
03:18<jaek>sec, i have a screenshot
03:18<clint1986>i'm looking at a wiki that says broadcom adapters can sometimes be set to hidden - would that be applicable to you?
03:18<jon_>oh, it's a bluetooth mouse?
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03:19<jaek>http://lh3.ggpht.com/jaecob/SLHnT3caEsI/AAAAAAAAADA/oGfCpbbaz-I/Screenshot-Bluetooth%20Preferences.jpg?imgmax=512
03:19<clint1986>that's some url
03:19<jaek>yeah google picassa static links suck
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03:19<clint1986>jaek: are you using a broadcom bluetooth adapter?
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03:20<jaek>um it is some generic cheap 2.0 one
03:20<clint1986>what does is appear as in lspci?
03:20<clint1986>it*
03:21<isai>have had trouble installing lenny on a new laptop (installer dies during base sys install). Can I install etch, then upgrade to lenny? It is easy to upgrade?
03:21<jon_>really easy, yes
03:21<jon_>in fact you can install just the base of etch and upgrade that to lenny
03:22<jaek>it is a usb device, doesnt show up on the pci bus ;)
03:22<jon_>lsusb?
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03:22<isai>yes usb, everything works fine but installer just dies 79% into install. This is a duplicate of bug #496598.
03:23<isai>I think the lenny installer is just broken.
03:24<infotron>sounds like a job for #debian-boot
03:24<jon_>could be, but could also be the install kernel doesn't support some of your hardware... could also be something wrong with your hardware (disk problem? ram problem?)
03:24<jon_>might want to rule those things out early
03:24<jon_>maybe you already have, if you've already taken a look at the bts
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03:25<isai>i'm following http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne, which says it should work. So i think it's just a temporary problem.
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03:26<jon_>what's some of the history of the hardware you're installing onto?
03:26<jon_>trying to get a feel for whether it "should" work
03:26<isai>brand new laptop, with intel atom proc.
03:26<jon_>so never had an os on it?
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03:26<jon_>until like -today-?
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03:27<isai>it had winxp as bought, another cheaper version of the laptop (less ram) comes preloaded with a fedora based linux distro. So everything should work.
03:27<jon_>how much ram can it have?
03:27<clint1986>well lenny isn't fedora
03:28<clint1986>and it is testing, so thing can sometimes break
03:28<isai>has 1gb, says it can go to 2 gb.
03:28<clint1986>things*
03:28<isai>clint1986, yeah I know but Im used to etch at home were everything is more or less stable
03:28<clint1986>the preloaded fedora might have a kernel configuration lenny doesn't
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03:29<jon_>but linux is linux... the common denominator is the linux kernel, and the not-common parts are the versions of the kernels, which drivers/modules are compiled in, which are modules, and which are not included at all
03:29*isai remembers pain of nvidia mod in etch
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03:29<jon_>oh, eventually it was no pain at all
03:30<clint1986>jon_: of course, that what i mean by different kernel configurations
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03:30<clint1986>that's*
03:30<jon_>yeah
03:30<isai>anyways, according to the tutorial most things should just work in it (except wireless).
03:30<jon_>oh, more not-common: what if each kernel had different patches applied
03:30<jon_>what's wrong with the wireless according to the tutorial?
03:31<isai>it doesn't work 'out of the box', you just need to get the svn copy afterwards, no big deal.
03:31<jon_>so it can work but not from the installer
03:31<jon_>what about wired eth?
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03:32<isai>wired eth works just fine (both in tutorial and here at my home)
03:32<jon_>do you have a wired setup you can use to pull in packages?
03:32<jon_>oh good
03:32<jon_>so you have lots of choices
03:32<isai>yeah, but if the base sys doesn't install I can't really go anywhere from there :(
03:33<clint1986>have you tried etch and then going from there?
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03:33<jon_>and if you can't establish networking either after or before installing the base
03:33<jon_>clint1986: his original question was can he do exactly that
03:34<clint1986>sorry, i'm tired
03:34<clint1986>in that case: try it :p
03:34<jon_>np, meetoo :)
03:35<clint1986>as a means to an end, if it works, you still have lenny
03:35<jon_>does cd 1 include build-essential?
03:35<jon_>on etch
03:35<infotron>!popcon
03:35<dpkg>methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff, or the basis for what packages appear on the first few cds/dvds etc (by rank)
03:35<jon_>how experimental do you want to get?
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03:36<jon_>you could try a netinst cd, if that fails to establish networking then you could get cd 1
03:36<clint1986>jaek: how are you doing? you've been quiet for a while now
03:37<jon_>what chipset is your wired eth?
03:37<jon_>or you could skip the first step and just get cd 1
03:38<jaek>clint1986, /usr/local/doc/bluez-utils says to run hcitool with root... so i guess that is what i'll do
03:38<jaek>i mean /usr/share/doc/bluez-utils/README.Debian.gz
03:38<jaek>thanks for the help clint1986
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03:39<clint1986>no worries, peace out :)
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03:43<jon_>isai, are you talking to us on this laptop now, or from a separate machine?
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03:55<clint1986>jon_: he's either figured it out, or something horrible has happened :o
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04:19<ichbins>!de
04:19<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de)
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04:20<fhackenberger>Hi! I'd like to build a kernel module for my package repository which I use to install patched packages my servers. For all other packages I use pbuilder. Is there a way to build a kernel module using pbuilder?
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04:20<fhackenberger>I'd like to build zaptel-source BTW
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04:21<knife>moo
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04:22<knife>how's everyone today? ^_^
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04:26<knife>whý $ð $èr¡òús?
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04:41<isai>jon_: actually fell asleep, but I am using separate machine.
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04:42<jon_>that would make it easier to help while you do it
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05:02<isai>eth0 doesn't work on etch. guess i'll just have to wait for them to fix lenny.
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05:03<petemc>did you try etchnhalf ?
05:04<isai>what's that?
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05:05<petemc>!etchnhalf
05:05<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf, or <etchnhalf facts>
05:05<kmonk>yep... etch and a half worked for me when straight etch did not.
05:05<kmonk>much better hardware detection
05:06<isai>will look into it in the morning, good night.
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05:08<tex>kmonk: Its just a far more recent kernel with lots of new device drivers.
05:09<kmonk>yessur it it
05:09<kmonk>it surely is
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05:12<tex>kmonk: But, yes, you're right. It leads to a much better hardware detection :)
05:14<kmonk>muuch better
05:15<kmonk>i only made the mistake of trying to upgrade to testing without all the proper resources avaliable, ah well
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05:33<palecoeu>I'm trying to install ipset on my debian 2.6.16 but I have this error message FATAL: Module ip_set not found.
05:33<palecoeu>I have applied patch-o-matic with runme base
05:34<palecoeu>then make menuconfig to enable ipset parameter in netfilter section
05:34<palecoeu>make install
05:34<palecoeu>reboot
05:34<palecoeu>but I still have the problem
05:34<palecoeu>can someone help me ?
05:34<petemc>tried running depmod -a
05:34<Maulkin>2.6.16?
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05:34<palecoeu>2.6.18-6-686
05:35<palecoeu>depmod -a gives nothing
05:35<slush>modprobe ip_set
05:35<petemc>arent you supposed to run make modules_install too
05:35<palecoeu>modprobe ip_set gives FATAL: Module ip_set not found.
05:36<slush>then the module is not installed correctly, I guess
05:36<palecoeu>I also run make in iptables-1.3.6 directory
05:36<palecoeu>I suppose also
05:36<palecoeu>:)
05:37<palecoeu>it's quite difficult for because I am a newbee in debian/iptables ;)
05:39<palecoeu>so how can I load this module ?
05:40<petemc>not all modules can be built after the original kernel, some you need to recompile the whole lot
05:41<petemc>it might be easier for you to find a prebuilt kernel with this option enabled
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05:43<leri>i don't know what the hardware is for but apt-cache search ipset provides some ideas
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05:43<palecoeu>the hardware is a "standard" intel PC
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05:44<tcsetattr>ipset is apparently an advanced router/firewall optimization feature which is not supported by the standard kernel. perhaps not someplace a newbie should be trying to go.
05:44<leri>don't mind me
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05:45<palecoeu>in fact I need ipset, because my iptables configuration contains lot of IPs
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05:46<palecoeu>ipset and iptables is not installed with apt-get
05:46<palecoeu>is it a problem ?
05:46<palecoeu>my iptables executables seems working fine
05:47<tcsetattr>network so big it just can't be managed with standard tools... your organization must be able to hire someone who knows how to compile a custom kernel module :)
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05:48<palecoeu>agree ... but they don't want, so I have to work on it
05:48<palecoeu>;)
05:48<tcsetattr>heh
05:48<slush>lol
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05:51<leri>i took the bait and downloaded ipset
05:51<slush>palecoeu: aptitude show ipset
05:51<slush>is it the same thing?
05:51<tcsetattr>iptables patching... what a mess. can't these people understand the value of a simple diff?
05:52<leri>from the README.Debian: ipset(8) is a control utility for the ipset kernel modules from the
05:52<leri>netfilter patch-o-matic project.
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05:52<palecoeu>I have this patch
05:52<tcsetattr>the modules_install was a good question. did we get an answer on that?
05:53<palecoeu>and install it with runme base command
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05:53<tcsetattr>or are you using the make-kpkg stuff
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05:53<palecoeu>only use make
05:53<leri>and it directs you to either use http://ipset.netfilter.org/install.html or the netfilter-extensions-source debian package
05:54<tcsetattr>you should probably go do a "make modules_install" in the patched kernel source directory. that might just get it in the right place
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05:55<palecoeu>ok I'll try
05:55<tcsetattr>netfilter-extensions-source? must be a testing/unstable thing. stable's ipset/README.Debian basically says "you need a patched iptables... good luck bozo"
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05:57<tcsetattr>and really, why _wouldn't_ you want to install a "testing/unstable" on your bigass router with the multiple OC-3's...
05:57<tcsetattr>or whatever it is that motivates people to this ipset thing.
05:58<palecoeu>I did make modules_install but no improvment
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05:59<tcsetattr>we can't have much confidence that you patched the kernel correctly
06:00<palecoeu>maybe I am doing a mistake, but in that case I don't know where is the mistake
06:01<palecoeu>I didi make menuconfig and select all netfilter
06:01<palecoeu>then make
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06:01<tcsetattr>so there was definitely some new options in the menuconfig
06:01<palecoeu>then make install
06:02<palecoeu>then reboot
06:02<tcsetattr>are you sure you _booted_ the new kernel?
06:02<tcsetattr>does uname -a look different?
06:02<palecoeu>in the menuconfig I have iphash, nethash ... and all ipset options
06:02<palecoeu>uname -a is the same
06:03<palecoeu>no new entry in grub menu
06:03<tcsetattr>uname -a, or cat /proc/version, should show the date when you compiled the kernel. if the date is too old, you aren't running the new one
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06:04<palecoeu>Linux firewall 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 18 08:42:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
06:04<tcsetattr>so you compiled it 8 days ago?
06:04<palecoeu>I have to rebuild a new ramfs ?
06:04<palecoeu>I just do a make menuconfig right now
06:05<tcsetattr>the kernel you're running was compiled 8 days ago
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06:06<palecoeu>strange because I did make recently
06:07<tcsetattr>but my question still stands: "are you sure you _booted_ the new kernel?"
06:07<palecoeu>good question ... ;)
06:07<palecoeu>now I'm not sure
06:08<palecoeu>the "make install" permit you to boot on the new compiled kernel ?
06:08<tcsetattr>you could check /proc/config.gz to see if any of the new options are there
06:09<tcsetattr>or look in /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ to see if the modules are installed there
06:09<palecoeu>I don't have a config.gz file
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06:11<tcsetattr>interesting... the absence of /proc/config.gz pretty much proves you aren't running a Debian kernel
06:11<tcsetattr>so in a way, it served its purpose.
06:11<palecoeu>it's a debian cd
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06:12<tcsetattr>are we speakign the same language? I know I'm half asleep but what the hell man
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06:12<tcsetattr>you DID compile a kernel, right?
06:12<tcsetattr>Debian kernel = kernel not compiled by you!
06:13<lukasz>Hello, I've installed Debian Etch and upgraded it to Lenny - I also installed the fglrx drivers but my card - Radeon 9600 XT isn't working... I'v tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it starts from asking me wether to use the framebuffer and ends after setting the keyboard. Can somebody tell me how to fix it?
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06:15<palecoeu>I don't find any kind of ipset file in /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter
06:17<tcsetattr>I don't know what you've done. I can't trust that /proc/config.gz isn't there because I don't trust that you even know how to find out if it is there. I certainly don't know whether to believe that you actually compiled a kernel or not
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06:19<palecoeu>find /proc -name config.gz gives nothing
06:19<palecoeu>I also understand it's difficult to assist me ;)
06:20<palecoeu>remote troubleshooting is never easy
06:20*qq never sow a config.gz in /proc ...
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06:21<tcsetattr>also I don't know anything about this "make install" for kernels. I do mine the same way I did them 10 years ago. cp zImage /boot/vmlinuz and edit the bootloader config by hand :)
06:21<clint1986>tcsetattr: debian has a kernel-package tool that makes using custom kernels with debian a lot easier
06:22<Nirgal>Anyone having problems with nautillus on Lenny today?
06:22<clint1986>tcsetattr: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
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06:22<tcsetattr>kernel-package can bite me. I follow the instructions in the README file in the kernel source. I Do It The Way Linus Intended And Anyone Who Thinks They Know Better Than Linus How To Install Linux Kernels Is A Dumbass
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06:24<clint1986>tcsetattr: forgive me for not respecting your devotion
06:24<clint1986>tcsetattr: :p
06:24<amphi>clint1986: heh
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06:24<tcsetattr>the Official Word (Linus's README) says about make install: "It is also possible to do "make install" if you have lilo installed to suit the kernel makefiles, but you may want to check your particular lilo setup first."
06:24<tcsetattr>so it's in there, but it has some skepticism attached to it.
06:25<amphi>rightly
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06:25<amphi>make-kpkg is handy
06:26<tcsetattr>whether a kernel "make install" would actually work on Debian I have no idea. why would I risk it when I know where I want the zImage, and I have a cp command?
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06:26<tcsetattr>I asked him earlier if he was using make-kpkg and he didn't really answer. I think he's not.
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06:27<tcsetattr>hard to know with the long pauses and non-answers from this guy though
06:27<clint1986>oh right, i thought you were having trouble with a kernel
06:27<clint1986>sorry
06:27<clint1986>i'm quite tired now, i'm going to be going to bed soon
06:27<tcsetattr>scroll back farther. palecoeu is the guy.
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06:29<tcsetattr>gone now, I guess. stopped answering a while ago. just talking to myself now I guess. bedtime
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06:29<clint1986>peace out :)
06:29<clint1986>oh, already gone
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06:32<palecoeu>ok
06:32<palecoeu>I found something strange
06:33<palecoeu>I have 2 dir in /lib/modules
06:33<palecoeu>so I guess I am booting on the wrong kernel
06:33<palecoeu>in all cases, many thanks for your help
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06:34<clint1986>come back if you're still having trouble
06:34<clint1986>:)
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06:34<palecoeu>ok thanks
06:35<palecoeu>:)
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06:39<qq>i left streamripper on , and after few hours the pc was out (keyboard lights blinking), i do a hart reboot, and i want to find out wats happends, i don't see nothing in /var/log/syslog , where i may do more checks ?
06:40<qq>s/ hart/hard
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06:45<qq>on sid , streamripper Installed: 1.63.5-1, ripping ~ 2.4 G, machine was up ~ 10 h
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06:49<qq>adn /home partition (in use) at 66% (before stop)
06:50<qq>s/adn / and
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06:59<superlinux>hi all
07:00<ranix>nyo
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07:01<superlinux>does can i re-use a squid cache from a backup copy?
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07:01<superlinux>can i re-use a squid cache from a backup copy?
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07:01<Maulkin>What?
07:01<superlinux>Maulkin,
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07:02<superlinux>if i have a backup copy of a squid's older cache, can i re-dump it for reuse and automatically updated
07:03<Maulkin>Why would you want to?
07:03<superlinux>well to save setup time and to speed up the work
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07:04<superlinux>and of course money
07:04<superlinux>Maulkin, in australia they sell us by the megabyte
07:05<superlinux>therefore rebuilding the cache is costly on us
07:06<Maulkin>Have you tried it?
07:06<superlinux>never..
07:06<Maulkin>Well, do so.
07:06<Maulkin>Also, read http://old.squid-cache.org/Doc/Hierarchy-Tutorial/tutorial-7.html
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07:07<superlinux>i dont have the equipment at the moment
07:07<Maulkin>And ask #squid
07:07<superlinux>ok..
07:07<superlinux>i did
07:07<Maulkin>And?
07:07<superlinux>at freenode.org
07:08<superlinux>it seems that this is only in australia
07:08<Maulkin>you want freenode.net perhaps
07:08<superlinux>and maybe lebanon cos they follow the same scheme
07:09<superlinux>at freenode.net i asked, sorry.
07:09<Maulkin>And they said?
07:10<superlinux>"superlinux: try that out. Not sure. :("
07:10<Maulkin>cool, so you went and tried it, right?
07:10<superlinux>i told you i dont have the equipment.
07:11<superlinux>i used to work in lebanon for some one. but never needed that
07:11<Maulkin>If you don't have the equipment, then why are you asxking?
07:11*Maulkin is getting really confused now
07:11<superlinux>he can fill the cache in a month and doesnt care
07:11<petemc>surely all the 'equipment' needed is a pc?
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07:11<superlinux>Maulkin, cos i am preparing for it
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07:15<superlinux>i'll see if it works for me alone. the equipment to me also meant a live network to test on
07:16<superlinux>cos i am looking at the wider scale
07:16<petemc>are you not on a live network now?
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07:16<superlinux>i am at home now
07:16<superlinux>i work in a net cafe.
07:17<petemc>you seem determined not to test this yourself
07:18<superlinux>and just to tell u how squid was awesome : i ran the net cafe on 1.5GB left of my quota from 08:00 AM till 19:00 pm. my shift ends on 23:30
07:19<superlinux>petemc, u need random data. don't you think so?
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07:19<superlinux>anyway, i am gonna check it on my own pc.
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07:21<pierre_>hi !
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07:30<pierre_>i'm trying to compile a kernel module. I have linux-source-2.6.26 and linux-headers-`uname -r` (linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64) installed. However when make time come : "No rules to make target modules. Stop" why please ?
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07:36<simonrvn>!tell pierre_ -about kp
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07:39<pierre_>simonrvn: aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev changed nothing ?
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07:39<simonrvn>man make-kpkg; you're obviously doing it wrong
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07:51<twb>The gmane copies of debian mailing lists are still full of spam.
07:51<twb>Is there any simple way around that?
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08:15<insigne>Oiii
08:15<insigne>Marcellinho
08:15<insigne>OIIIII
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08:16<insigne>Oiiiii
08:16<insigne>Tudo bem ??
08:16<insigne>Oii
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08:21<fantonio_br>re re re
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08:25<[0x41]>fatal server error : no screens found
08:25<[0x41]>anyone help me out with that ?
08:25<gsimmons>!no screens found
08:25<dpkg>somebody said screens found was not a useful message - it means X11 has a problem somewhere with something. Read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or /var/log/XFree86.0.log for XFree86) more closely, and look for the real error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about <troubleshooting x>.
08:29<[0x41]>(EE) no devices detected
08:29<superlinux>Maulkin,
08:29<[0x41]>is there an auto setup ?
08:29<superlinux>are u still there?
08:29<[0x41]>for xserver
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08:30<superlinux>Maulkin, all i want to say yes it works. however i did not notice any difference yet
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08:31<[0x41]>gsimmons all get is (EE) no devices detected
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08:40<tiflo>dpkg,
08:40<dpkg>tiflo: I don't know, could you explain it?
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09:13<agabus>if i use the lenny beta 2 installer, will it install the most current testing kernel or will it install the kernel that is included on the beta 2 install disc?
09:15<Aleric>no idea.
09:15<Aleric>It will start with running the kernel on the disk of course.
09:16<Aleric>That kernel will need to be able to detect your network and your DVD, or it won't work.
09:16<agabus>yeah i know it works fine with my pc
09:16<Aleric>After that you can upgrade the kernel easily anyway (after installation)
09:16<agabus>i was just wondering which kernel it will first boot with after install
09:17<Aleric>uname -a
09:17<agabus>yeah i spose that's useful after i've installed it
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09:17<Aleric>2.6.25-2-amd64 is what lenny has now I think (I didn't upgrade for a week though or so)
09:18<knife>unless you use netinst
09:18<agabus>yer i will be using netinst
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09:19<knife>then you should get the latest
09:19<agabus>perfect. thanks
09:20<agabus>and i was wondering, do "nice" fonts come with a default lenny install these days?
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09:23<knife>i have no idea :D
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09:27<qq>agabus: debian-installer intend to use minimum of resources, to fit in all supported architectures by Debian, so no
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09:51<rati>Hey I have upgraded from etch to lenny, but I cant see my fonts in Xserver
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09:51<rati>in my gdm if I type usename and password then still it show me that
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09:59<slush>rati: it shows you what?
10:00<rati>slush: ohh sorry I havent complete that. It doesnt shows me fonts
10:00<rati>so I can see cursor but no font
10:01<rati>in terminal fonts are working fin
10:02<slush>You only have a cursor, nothing else?
10:03<rati>slush: ya, I cant see my menu and desktop icons. if I mouse over it then it highlight
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10:05<slush>rati: then there's nothing wrong with your fonts, but with your xserver or something
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10:07<rati>slush: what should I do?
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10:14<slush>rati: read the xorg logs, check your config
10:14<slush>analyze your problem
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10:17<rati>slush: ok
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10:22<chandu>hi
10:22<chandu>Is there any background update service available in Linux equivalent to BITS [ Background intelligent service] in Windows
10:22<chandu>my requirement is like this ..- When I file is downloading from remote site , in between if network goesdown ..and after sometime when network is back ..the file download should resume from whereever it has stopped [leftout] without the user interention again
10:22<chandu>That service should be capable of hadling http, https, ftp requests
10:22<cogwheel>well, as i said on freenode, you can use wget -c, but as you want something automatic... hmm.
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10:25<chandu>cogwheel, I can write the script but want to make sure is there any availble service/daemon which can handle
10:25<cogwheel>not that i know of.
10:25<cogwheel>though i never looked into this one.
10:25<astronut>chandu: there are several
10:26<astronut>apt-cache search download manager
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10:34<massmc>i just installed debian on another drive. when i login from the manager it goes back to the login manager rather than gnome.. any know how to fix this?
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10:36<qq>massmc: home/ is on seperate partition ?
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10:37<massmc>qq: nope, It was working fine until I changed the screen resolution in gnome.
10:38<qq>aha ...
10:38<massmc>:(
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10:39<qq>revert to original resolution , help ?
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10:40<massmc>qq: how do I revert back? I cant get into gnome at all
10:40<qq>edit xorg.conf
10:41<qq>or do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
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10:43<qq>use Ctrl+ Alt+ F1 / F6 to enter in console mode
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10:45<massmc>done :) ty for your help qq
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10:58<mrtonyb>I have lenny beta-2 works great except the update icon
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10:59<mrtonyb>notifies me that there are updates but ... when clicked there are none. Any clues why?
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11:01<cahoot>make it more verbose?
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11:02<Villarroel>Hi!
11:03<Villarroel>Is there any way to make the flash plug-in (non-free) more stable (or it is buggy by default), I have to reboot Iceape sevaral times a day I'm using etchnhalf with flash instaled from etch backports (amd64)
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11:05<petemc>its only recently that flash is able to work with amd64, so i wouldnt expect too much just yet
11:06<Villarroel>Ok.
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11:08<Shadowdancer>Villarroel: I don't know about 64bit arches, but it usually helps to keet Flash from grabbing the sound device. That's why all relevant apps use Jack on ym system ;-)
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11:11<Villarroel>Thanks Shadowdancer. I will search how to do that.
11:12<Shadowdancer>Villarroel: it's not something I can recommend. I'd rather try to live without Flash
11:12<Shadowdancer>I'm just doing it that way because I'm weird ;-)
11:13<Villarroel>I have tried, but it's difficult.
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11:25<Villarroel>Bye.
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12:06<astronut>petemc: it does now?
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12:13<zboy417>Ryan52: You here?
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12:14<Ryan52>yup
12:14<gcdoc>ola]
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12:14<zboy417>um...i'm back to initramfs again
12:15<gcdoc>alguem pode ame ajudar com relação a placa de video nvidia
12:16<chattr>!pt
12:16<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
12:16<Shadowdancer>!es
12:16<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
12:16<Shadowdancer>OK, pt is more like it
12:17<zboy417>Ryan52: i guess it delete something important again
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12:17<Ryan52>wait....it was worked?
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12:17<Ryan52>err, it was working?
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12:18<zboy417>i haven't used it since the update, ryan52
12:18<zboy417>i just turned it back on today
12:18<zboy417>and its messed up
12:18<Ryan52>but did we get it working before?
12:19<Ryan52>My memory is really bad...
12:19<zboy417>no...
12:19<zboy417>do i need to re-install, but this time separate the directories
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12:19<zboy417>i did the one for novices
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12:20<zboy417>or is there an iso that has the testing
12:20<Ryan52>separate directories? one for novices? you lost me...
12:20<Ryan52>there are lots of iso's that have testing
12:20<Ryan52>they're built daily
12:20<zboy417>i mean...i got the stable iso, but i can't get it to update to lenny...is there a lenny iso?
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12:20<zboy417>(but that will fit on a cd)
12:21<mano>hey guys... one question, short one... whats the command to start/stop compiz
12:21<Ryan52>mano: compiz --replace
12:21<Ryan52>mano: kwin --replace
12:21<Ryan52>(that's if you use kde)
12:21<mano>i use gnome
12:22<Ryan52>well, the compiz is how you start it...not sure what gnome's thingy is called...
12:22<mano>ok thanksss
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12:23<Ryan52>zboy417: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/debian-LennyBeta2-i386-netinst.iso
12:23<Ryan52>zboy417: that's the beta 2
12:23<gcdoc>hello someone could help me have a plate nvidia gforce 7000 and compiled it in the kernel 2.26 in debian only that the maximum resolution and 16k is to reach 32k
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12:24<gcdoc>hello someone could help me have a plate nvidia gforce 7000 and compiled it in the kernel 2.26 in debian only that the maximum resolution and 16k is to reach 32k
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12:26<mariano>hola
12:26<zboy417>thanks Ryan52
12:26<gcdoc>hello someone could help me have a plate nvidia gforce 7000 and compiled it in the kernel 2.26 in debian only that the maximum resolution and 16k is to reach 32k
12:27<zboy417>gcdoc...paitence
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12:27<zboy417>they may be looking up the answer
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12:27<Ryan52>gcdoc: and even if we aren't, you don't need to repeat yourself
12:27<cahoot>or trying to understand
12:27<Ryan52>gcdoc: by now, we have noticed you.
12:27<Ryan52>cahoot: that too :)
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12:28<gcdoc>sorry
12:28<mariano>lskja
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12:29<gcdoc>The version of the software is nv = NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.12-pkg2.run
12:31<stevecotton>gcdoc, please rephrase "16k is to reach 32k
12:31<stevecotton>gcdoc, please rephrase "16k is to reach 32k" - I can't understand what you mean. (oops, hit enter too soon)
12:32<zboy417>i think he means 16 Bit to 32 Bit
12:33<gcdoc>would like the resolution of plava nv in my debian would be 32 million colors rather than 16 million ... as this change ...
12:33<gcdoc>stevecotton, would like the resolution of plava nv in my debian would be 32 million colors rather than 16 million ... as this change ...
12:34<gcdoc>zboy417, yes...
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12:34<astronut>gcdoc: you should use the debian package
12:34<astronut>however, what you want to do is edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
12:35<gcdoc>mx x 11 post ok..
12:35<gcdoc>Section "Device"
12:35<gcdoc> Identifier "Device0"
12:35<gcdoc> Driver "nvidia"
12:35<gcdoc> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
12:35-!-gcdoc was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
12:35<stevecotton>somehow that was unsurprising
12:35<Ryan52>heh
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12:39<Ryan52>!paste
12:39<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
12:39<gcdoc>sorry disconect
12:40<gcdoc>post my x11 ok..
12:40<gcdoc>Section "Device"
12:40<gcdoc> Identifier "Device0"
12:40<gcdoc> Driver "nvidia"
12:40<gcdoc> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
12:40<gcdoc>EndSection
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12:40<Ryan52>:|
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12:41<gcdoc>sorry but my ignorance and the first time I use this irq
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12:41<Ryan52>!tell gcdoc about paste
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12:43<gcdoc>I want to change the resolution of this nvidia on 16-bit to 32 bits and would be posting my x11 because I think I need to edit the same or has some other way to do this
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12:44<Ryan52>so pastebin it in a pastebin
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12:45<pyrokay__>What's the present working directory invironment variable for bash? all i want to do define the current directory as a variable in my script.
12:45<marnor>gcdoc
12:46<marnor>are you running kde or gnome?
12:46<gcdoc>marnor yes..
12:46<gcdoc>marnor gnome
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12:47<marnor>nm
12:47<Ryan52>pyrokay__: $PWD
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12:48<pyrokay__>Ryan52, thanks
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12:50<gcdoc>I want to change the resolution of this nvidia on 16-bit to 32 bits used Debian kernel 2.26
12:51<Ryan52>there's an nvidia setup program thing
12:51<Ryan52>maybe it can do it...
12:51<pyrokay__>tried editing the xorg.conf? and the nvidia setup program is called nvidia-xconfig
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12:51<Ryan52>nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings
12:52<Ryan52>pyrokay__: he tried to paste his xorg.conf into the channel twice (and so got kicked out), and then gave up on editing the xorg.conf
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12:53<gcdoc>when I do it to set the option does not exist at most 32-bit accepts 16-bit
12:53<pyrokay__>what's wrong with pastebucket?
12:54<astronut>gcdoc: what's your native language?
12:54<astronut>!br
12:54<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
12:55<astronut>it might be easier for you to get help in your native language
12:56<gcdoc>the software I used to compile was the version NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.12-pkg2.run
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12:58<gcdoc>astronut,
12:58<gcdoc>I tried in the debian-au but no one managed to help me by the ... I know I have a little trouble me communicate in their language but still would like to your patience ... to using Google to translate ...
12:59<astronut>gcdoc: it's very difficult
12:59<astronut>what is your native language?
12:59<astronut>pt-BR?
12:59<gcdoc>yes
13:00<astronut>did you try #debian-br?
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13:01<gcdoc>
13:01<gcdoc>I know that this is but the channel has only 24 employees and none of them knows solve my problem
13:01<stevecotton>gcdoc - have you tried 24-bit?
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13:01<gcdoc>stevdcotton yes..
13:02<pyrokay__>ok, so if i use $PWD and then do cd .., how can i reference the directory that i was just in?
13:02<gcdoc>sorry no have this 24-bits maximum 16 bits
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13:03<Ryan52>pyrokay__: $OLDPWD
13:03<pyrokay__>awesome, thanks
13:03<stevecotton>odd - I have a 6600 running fine at 24 bits
13:03<gcdoc>stevdcotton, Depth 24
13:03<astronut>pyrokay__: $OLDPWD
13:03<astronut>e:f;b
13:03<pyrokay__>thanks again
13:04<pyrokay__>i did google but i couldn't phrase it right.
13:04<gcdoc>stevdcotton, 16.7 Million Colors (Depth 24)
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13:04<stevecotton>gcdoc - where does it say that?
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13:05<stevecotton>16.7 million is different to 16 bit. 8bit => 256 colours, 16bit => 65536 colours, 24 or 32 bits => 16.7 million colours
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13:06<astronut>32 bit = RGB, 8 bits, and what are the other 8 used for? something special i know, but i forget what
13:06<cahoot>alpha channel?
13:06<gcdoc>stevdcotton,
13:06<gcdoc>and the parameter of this color of my video card and I would be a maximum resolution of 32 bits and not of 1-bit .. is to change it
13:06<stevecotton>astronut: alpha channel, or just unused padding for alignment
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13:08<pyrokay__>gcdoc, go to pastebucket.net and paste your xorg.conf there and give us the link
13:09<pyrokay__>if the xorg.conf is set to 24 or 32, then it must be the nvidia kernel module being dumb, right?
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13:10<gcdoc>post ok
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13:10<pyrokay__>post on that site and then put the link here
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13:11<gcdoc>http://www.pastebucket.net/j0vwv4
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13:13<gcdoc>pyrokay__ what you think..
13:14<pyrokay__>if you haven't restarted since making those changes, do so, and then if you are still in 16-bit graphics mode, then reinstall the nvidia drivers. if that fails, come back here
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13:17<gcdoc>pyrokay__
13:17<gcdoc>I have reinstalled with the command sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.12-pkg2.run ... but the maximum resolution is 16 bits ...
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13:18<pyrokay__>does it work with the 32 bit version of debian?
13:19<gcdoc>pyrokay__I use debian amd-64 kernel 2.26
13:19<pyrokay__>what make of nvidia graphics card?
13:21<gcdoc>pyrokay__I only realized the problem at the time I was open a game cs ... for use on a daily basis so good with 16-bit ... but for games is not good ..
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13:24<pyrokay__>gcdoc, which graphics card do you have
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13:26<gcdoc>pyrokay__have card GeForce 7000M/nForce 610M/PCI/SSE2
13:26<data>hi, sorry guys, anyone knows an out-of-the-box *sic Debian/based distro?
13:26<data>oopps Apache out of da box, sorry
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13:29<kudecnik>всем доброго времени суток
13:29<pyrokay__>gcdoc, it must be the nvidia kernel... everything else looks fine
13:30<erKURITA>!ru
13:30<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
13:30<TIBS01>ello
13:30<TIBS01>how do i enable proftpd to allow me to root login
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13:30<erKURITA>you must pray to the gods to allow such blasphemy to go unnoticed
13:31<gcdoc>pyrokay__and you could give me a hint of a kernel that works here comes ...
13:31<TIBS01>how do i enable proftpd to allow me to root login
13:31<kudecnik>what ?
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13:32<erKURITA>TIBS01 read my last line
13:32<erKURITA>i.d. you mustn't do it
13:32<pyrokay__>gcdoc, try the 32bit debian os, or ubuntu, and the 32bit nvidia drivers
13:32<TIBS01>lol
13:32<TIBS01>yer k
13:33<pyrokay__>what's wrong with ssh
13:33<TIBS01>?
13:33<erKURITA>nothing, unless they fucked up OpenSSL (again)
13:33<pyrokay__>haha
13:34<TIBS01>right
13:34<TIBS01>i know i goto add something to proftpd.conf
13:34<TIBS01>but wher
13:34<TIBS01>e
13:34<erKURITA>man proftpd
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13:35<kudecnik>i have install Debian and have some questions
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13:35<pyrokay__>so ask them
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13:35<kudecnik>how i can install drivers for Ati Radeon 9600
13:36<TIBS01>erm
13:36<TIBS01>dont say nothing about loggin in as root
13:36<TIBS01>in it
13:36<gcdoc>pyrokay__ ok I will try to find a more just see if I get a solution, if that does not come back to ocorro ai debian 32-bit ... but thank you very much for your attention to me grateful ... up soon
13:36<kudecnik>I have dovnload drivers from official site, but dont know what to do
13:36<pyrokay__>no probs, hope you get it fixed
13:37<erKURITA>kudecnik run 'em ?
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13:37<kudecnik>there is script (?) *.run
13:37<kudecnik>which command i must run to install this pack ?
13:37<pyrokay__>kudecnik, sudo sh [filename].run
13:38<kudecnik>wow)) it works )
13:38<pyrokay__>awesome
13:38<erKURITA>for real sherlock?
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13:39<kudecnik>it ask me to install driver 8.522 on Xorg 7.1 or to generate Dist Spec Fri Pack
13:39<kudecnik>what choose?
13:39<pyrokay__>first option sounds good to me
13:40<kudecnik>ok)
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13:41<kudecnik>must i recompile the kernel ?
13:41<kudecnik>is ti real so simple ?
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13:42<pyrokay__>i don't know how ati drivers work
13:43<kudecnik>it is like Nvidia
13:43<kudecnik>but Nvidia had installer few years ago ...
13:43<pyrokay__>then you need to compile the kernel module and insert it into the current kernel, the drivers should do that themselves
13:44<pyrokay__>if you can install envyng-core and use that it's simpler
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13:45<weechat_user>I need the output of wget --server-responce because it lists file size, but I dont want it to download the file. Any ideas?
13:45<kudecnik>dont anderstand about what yuo speak ...
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13:46<kudecnik>now it ask me to configure driwer in simple mode ... but i do not see configuration tool (
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13:46<pyrokay__>kudecnik, can you do a 'sudo apt-get install envyng-core envyng-gtk -y'?
13:46<TIBS01>fucking hell
13:46<TIBS01>still wont let me ftp
13:46<TIBS01>in
13:46<pyrokay__>try a different ftpd
13:47<weechat_user>hell as ftp?
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13:47<TIBS01>nah
13:48<weechat_user>I need the output of wget --server-responce because it lists file size, but I dont want it to download the file. Any ideas?
13:49<pyrokay__>weechat_user, i'm thinking about it =P
13:49<weechat_user>thanks, pyrokay__
13:49<pyrokay__>:)
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13:50<weechat_user>or if you know how to get file size of a file on the internet?
13:50<kudecnik>ok, I`ll try to reset the X
13:51<pyrokay__>request a download and then don't accept it i think
13:51<weechat_user>pyrokay__: this is from the command line with no user interaction
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13:51<pyrokay__>thus wget, yeah
13:51<weechat_user>hehe
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13:53<pyrokay__>can't use stat
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13:54<weechat_user>stat is for a file on your computer
13:55<pyrokay__>can you do a wget [file] | grep filesize && pkill wget?
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13:56<weechat_user>I think the wget would need to finish first. but I think there are other command to kill maybe
13:56<pyrokay__>fair enough
13:56<pyrokay__>afk, food =D
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13:58<TIBS01>proftpd
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13:58<TIBS01>config ive added
13:58<TIBS01>#</Anonymous>
13:58<TIBS01>RootLogin on
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13:58<TIBS01>and it still wont let me login as root
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13:59<kudecnik>ok I think driver works
13:59<TIBS01>ommand: USER root
13:59<TIBS01>Response: 331 Password required for root
13:59<TIBS01>Command: PASS **********
13:59<TIBS01>Response: 530 Login incorrect.
13:59<TIBS01>Error: Could not connect to server
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13:59<TIBS01>see
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14:00<boobz>hello
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14:01<boobz>does the technology seen in http://www.groupereflect.net/blog/archives/2006/06/le_bureau_virtu.html is known in Debian GNU/Linux world?
14:02<fxiny>weechat_user: what's wrong with wget --server-response ?
14:02<fxiny>weechat_user: >>> "Length: 14,286 (14K) [application/x-debian-package]"
14:03<fxiny>ok i see
14:03<fxiny>it's downloading it
14:03<kudecnik>is there anybody who works with Ati 3d driver?
14:04<weechat_user>boobz what does is say? its in french. and it has flash video which I can run.
14:06<boobz>you see a desktop in "3d" where files are moved by some special manipulation
14:06<weechat_user>boobz oh. are you talking about compiz?
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14:07<kudecnik>how can i check wkrk driver well or there are some problems
14:07<boobz>no I don't think so. it's presented like tomorrow's desktop ...
14:07<weechat_user>most linux has compiz or some variant for 3d desktops.
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14:07<weechat_user>boobz, have you seen compiz?
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14:08<boobz>yes i have
14:08<weechat_user>oh. ok.
14:09<boobz>the special thing is how you managed the files reprensented by movable icons
14:09<TIBS01>right
14:09<TIBS01>anyone know how to enable proftpd to ftp in as root
14:09<boobz>the page is not very descriptive, that why i'm asking
14:09<boobz>you cannot run flash videos ???
14:10<pyrokay__>weechat_user, boobz, it's called bumptop. it's a closed beta. it uses physics representations to show files as 'real objects' on a desktop and you can move them around, knock them rotate them, etc
14:11<boobz>right ! thanks
14:11<pyrokay__>closest thing i've seen in linux/gnu was kde 4
14:11<pyrokay__>but still not too close
14:11<weechat_user>oh. is that like the microsoft 'surface' demo?
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14:12<boobz>has it anything special ? i mean conceptualy
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14:12<foxdie>Hi
14:12<pyrokay__>weechat_user, yes, like a virtual version of that, it's just a desktop manager, not a physical object. the file icos act as individual physical objects that you can manipulate on a 3d virtual desktop. you can stack them and zoom in and out and stuff.
14:12<Nandu64>HI
14:12<pyrokay__>hey foxdie
14:13<pyrokay__>hey Nandu64
14:13<Nandu64>ya hi
14:13<boobz>anything close in linux world ?
14:13<pyrokay__>boobz, not really
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14:13<pyrokay__>there isn't anything close in the windows world, though, yet.
14:14<boobz>ok but under linux ?
14:14<pyrokay__>no
14:14<boobz>ah, ok.
14:14<boobz>... reallly ?
14:14<weechat_user>yeah, its something that will be on linux and windows, but its too new.
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14:14<pyrokay__>^
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14:15<weechat_user>plus you need an expensive video card.
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14:16<boobz>under which os does it run ? anybody knows ? pyrokay__ ?
14:16<pyrokay__>boobz, probably windows
14:16<pyrokay__>but it is not available yet
14:16<boobz>what a shame
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14:16<boobz>.. no i'm kidding !
14:17<boobz>pyrokay, yes i read that
14:18<weechat_user>boobz: there is a wikipedia article on bumptop, it has a link to a TED video on it.
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14:18<pyrokay__>watching the ted video now, not many technical details
14:18<weechat_user>ahh
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14:20<boobz>ok, guys, thanks for the info. for the time being i'll stick to what i have, bye
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14:22<Nandu64>Hey can I only download the base system of Debain ?
14:22<Nandu64>?
14:24<Nandu64>Can anyone sujjest me a channel for beginers ?
14:25<Lethalman>Nandu64, what are you donig?
14:25<Lethalman>*doing?
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14:26<Nandu64>I want to start installing things of my choice from the base system of Linux
14:26<Nandu64>I mean debian
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14:27<Nandu64>And for that where do I get to download the base system of debain (console) ?
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14:27<TIBS01>come on someone help me plese
14:27<TIBS01>please
14:28<Lethalman>Nandu64, what if you get the DVD and you don't select the GUI'
14:28<Lethalman>?
14:28<TIBS01>how can i login into proftp asroot
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14:28<Lethalman>you can deselect all the choices
14:28<Nandu64>But I dont have DVD
14:28<Nandu64>thats the problem
14:28<Lethalman>then CDs
14:28<Lethalman>or netinst
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14:29<Nandu64>netinst ?
14:29<Nandu64>is it a site ?
14:29<Nandu64>or sth ?
14:29<Lethalman>it's a kind of installation
14:29<Nandu64>and how do I do that /
14:29<overflow>Nandu64: http://www.debian.org/CD/
14:29<Lethalman>Nandu64, http://www.debian.org/distrib/
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14:30<Nandu64>ok I will definately try it. Thank You !
14:30<Nandu64>I live in Nepal
14:30<overflow>:)
14:30<overflow>cool
14:30<Nandu64>Last time when I tried it, It didnt reached me
14:31<Nandu64>But hope this time every thing goes fine
14:33<Nandu64>Hey Lethalman, thnx 4 "netinst" !!
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14:33<Lethalman>ywq
14:33<Lethalman>yw
14:34<kop>Nandu64 : You may want to consider setting up a local mirror (which takes about 120G of disk for i386/adm64/source and probably more bandwidth than you've got) Or at least use the apt-cacher package. These things will help if you've more than one debian computer.
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14:39<fxiny>kop: i use apt-cacher , but : do you know jablicator ? i've done a quick test and wow ! it rocks , i'm planning to use apt-cacher and jablicator for installing lenny
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14:40<Nandu64>no idea sorry
14:40<Nandu64>wat is jablicator ??
14:42<Nandu64>server debian-boot
14:42<shivraj>ahh ... is nvidia-kernel-source replaced by nvidia-kernel-common ?
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14:46<shivraj>how can I install an nvidia 8500 card ?
14:46<shivraj>I downloaded the driver from nvidia's website
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14:46<chealer>shivraj: no, it's not
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14:47<Nandu64>
14:47<Nandu64>...
14:48<shivraj>I cant download nvidia-kernel-source .. its giving errors
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14:49<shivraj>E: Package nvidia-kernel-source has no installation candidate
14:49<shivraj>thats what I am getting
14:49<chealer>Nandu64: it's a Debian package
14:49<shivraj>everything is complaining about kernel source
14:49<Nandu64>oh i see
14:50<Nandu64>ok well bye evry1 meet u all soon
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14:55<shivraj>can someone please give me some advice on how to install this graphics card ?
14:55<seanius>shivraj: you have to compile that one yourself. google for module-assistant nvidia
14:55<seanius>wait, no, the first hit makes it too hard
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14:56<seanius>dpkg: tell shivraj about nvidia
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15:03<Anium>Bonjour
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15:03<Anium>Sorry, which language here ?
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15:04<Anium>is there a Fluxbox 's expert ?
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15:05<slush>sure, be patient!
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15:05<TIBS01>anyone know how to enable proftpd as root login ?
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15:09<Anium_>Hi, is there some Fluxbox's expert ?
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15:13<cahoot>Anium_: such questions are seldom met with success - put your real question instead
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15:19<jorn>Hey guys, I'm a complete newbie.. Do you know of any good books to get me started on debian (in a webhosting environment..)
15:19<jorn>?
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15:20<cahoot>jorn: I'd look at debian.org
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15:20<cahoot>jorn: If you looking for a basic linux book I can recommend 'Running Linux'
15:21<jorn>cahoot: Ah, bellow "Debian Books" hehe, thanks
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15:21<jorn>cahoot: Thanks, I'll check that one out
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15:22<cahoot>byt Matt Welsh IIRC
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15:25<Anium_>I installed pulseaudio on my debian sid with fluxbox, I con't launch it on begining of my session. I added "pulseaudi -C" to my .fluxbox/startup. Nothing appened.
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15:29<qq>maybe need a "o" to >> pulseaudi* -C ?
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15:33<Anium_>yes, my mistake, its what I wrioe in my startup file
15:34<Anium_>wrote
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15:34<techbee>Hi, anyone can recommend me pppoe progam
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15:35<cesurasean>can someone tell me how to compile php5 with Compiled GD with freetype support via apt-get?
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15:35<cesurasean>is this possible without manual method?
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15:36<qq>techbee: pppoe pppoeconf
15:36<techbee>thanks qq
15:36<qq>np
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15:36<enouf>qq: while you're there, which clusterfs do you use again?
15:37<enouf>(just curious)
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15:37<qq>techbee: apt-cache search ppp
15:37<qq>enouf: ext3 ...
15:37<enouf>haha ..
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15:38<enouf>qq: no beowulf?, no distcc? .. what did i misunderstand? in -OT is fine if you like
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15:45<techbee>gn , all
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15:50<eddieB>when i do "apt-get build-dep x264" i get "E: Unable to find a source package for x264". anyone know what's going on?
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15:51<rocksolid>there is no x264 package
15:51<rocksolid>maybe you mean
15:51<rocksolid>apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
15:51<amphi>there is on testing
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15:52<Christmas>you need sources packages active in your repos
15:52<amphi>rocksolid: you have a src line for marillat?
15:52<Christmas>it's in debian multimedia repos iirc
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15:53<amphi>aye, so it would seem
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15:54<cesurasean>can someone please assist me here?
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15:55<cesurasean>I need to apt-get gd and freetype without recompiling php
15:55<cesurasean>is this possible with apt-get?
15:55<rocksolid>ya its in deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main
15:55<apprentice>hello I'm having some HP Laserjet 1020 install problems can somebody help me out? I basically follow the steps from this website but don't know how to proceed at the final stages http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/cups/hp1020.html
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15:55<rocksolid>x264 too
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15:57<qq>cesurasean: do and look in >>> apt-cache search freetype
15:57<cesurasean>thanks
15:57<cesurasean>qq
15:57<apprentice>I follow the procedures from here at the beginning http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ I made the mistake of installing some FOO2ZJS packages from the Synaptic repository that caused some problems. But I think I've un-installed most of the Synaptic mistakes. So......
15:57<qq>cesurasean: welcome
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16:11<cesurasean>qq you are the man with a plan aren't you? heh
16:11<cesurasean>you must get paid by the hour to sit in here
16:11<cesurasean>heh
16:11<apprentice>I solved it now the USB port didn't show up because I turned it off during setup :-)
16:12<apprentice>good talk :-)
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16:30<eddieB>can anyone help me? my next step is "git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264". when i do that. i get this http://pastebin.ca/1185618 .
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16:31<petemc>eddieB: seems clear enough to me
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16:32<eddieB>petemc: i get this after return. "usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied."
16:33<jurg>Just do what the message says.
16:33<cesurasean>Ok, now I have installed both freetype and gd via apt-get. Do I still have to compile php5 to use these?
16:33<cesurasean>or is there an easier route, so that I can automatically update this flavor of php5?
16:33<eddieB>jurg it says permission denied
16:33<cesurasean>I don't want to compile anything.
16:33<cesurasean>can you help qq?
16:34<jurg>eddieB: Install git-core and cogito as root (apt-get install git-core cogito) and run "update-alternatives --config git".
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16:36<eddieB>jurg: i still get the same fatal error
16:36<jurg>What, permission denied?
16:36<jurg>When installing or when trying to do a git clone?
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16:38<eddieB>git clone
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16:39<qq>cesurasean: i don't think so, may be fine, on sid at least ...
16:39<cesurasean>im using etch
16:40<cesurasean>so once I do apt-get install, it will configure php automatically?
16:40<cesurasean>using gd and freetype
16:40<cesurasean>?
16:40<cesurasean>I can check this from a php test page, correct?
16:40<eddieB>jurg: git clone
16:40<cesurasean>which version is sid? I thought the next one was lenny?
16:40<cesurasean>is sid an older debian?
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16:41<cesurasean>all I remember is sarge, etch, and lenny
16:41<cesurasean>:/
16:41<les>sid is the all time unstable
16:41<cesurasean>oh ok
16:41<cesurasean>so it's the dev copy
16:41<qq>cesurasean: i dunno any php , so sorry
16:41<cesurasean>thanks qq
16:41<cesurasean>no probs
16:42<les>!sid
16:42<dpkg>sid is probably the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>.
16:42<cesurasean>as long as I can install gd and freetype via apt-get, that's good.
16:42<cesurasean>now, I just want to enable those features on php, without having to recompile it
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16:42<cesurasean>cause' I want to be able to update that system on the fly
16:42<cesurasean>:/
16:42<cesurasean>all my sys admin's are out to lunch. :)
16:43<les>You don't need to recompile php, just install gd and freetype
16:44<cesurasean>thanks les
16:44<slush>for gd support in php, you need to install php-gd
16:44<cesurasean>thats all I was looking for
16:44<cesurasean>ok
16:44<cesurasean>cool
16:44<cesurasean>thanks guys
16:44<cesurasean>thats what I thought, I wasn't sure though.
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16:44<cesurasean>if not, I was going to ask the dev to put that into Debian Lenny :P
16:45<cesurasean>apt-get is magical
16:45<cesurasean>thanks guys
16:45<cesurasean>gotta do some work now
16:46<qq>cesurasean: we means configure i tho, not re/compile
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16:50<cesurasean>yeah, does that mean I don't have to recompile and apt-get will configure php5 for me?
16:51<cesurasean>that was my main question
16:51<cesurasean>I don't want to compile, that's stupid and too old skool
16:51<cesurasean>apt-get works wonders
16:52<erKURITA>cesurasean it ain't stupid
16:53<cesurasean>lol
16:53<erKURITA>and it's not old school. Everything you get through apt has already been pre-compiled for your needs.
16:53<cesurasean>I ain't stupid either. :P
16:53<cesurasean>yeah
16:53<cesurasean>that's good.
16:53<cesurasean>and, that's why I love apt-get, and Debian. :)
16:53<cesurasean>most friendly channel there is of all the linux, etc
16:54<cesurasean>you can't beat the support, open sourceness, anything about it.
16:55<cesurasean>Debian dominates Linux
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16:56<cesurasean>what about install curl for php? apt-get install php5-curl?
16:56<egns>"<cesurasean> apt-get works wonders", i love you cesurasean
16:57<cesurasean>lol
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16:57<cesurasean>you don't love me, you just love my silly comments from time to time.
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16:58<egns>maybe
16:58<cesurasean>one day I'm going to tattoo apt-get on my ass cheek
16:58<cesurasean>lol
16:58<cesurasean>apt-get install linux-engineer
16:58<cesurasean>heh
16:58<egns>lol
16:58<cesurasean>lol
16:58<egns>then, upload the photo -> imageshack.us
16:58<egns>:D
16:59<cesurasean>;0
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16:59<cesurasean>I'll upload it to Microsoft's Live Spaces as my avatar.
16:59<egns>good idea
17:00<cesurasean>my nickname on there will be Gill Bates
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17:00<egns>Gill Bates :P
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17:01<cesurasean>yeah, I bet he never thought of that one either. *idiots*
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17:02<cesurasean>cya dudes later
17:02<cesurasean>peace
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17:13<zboy417>Ryan52: it worked :)
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17:14<Ryan52>good...
17:14<Ryan52>what worked again? :P
17:14<zboy417>the lenny install thingy
17:14<zboy417>i have lenny running
17:14<Ryan52>ah. good.
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17:16<ben_>hey guys, how would i change /home to /var/home and /temp to /var/temp (due to partitions)
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17:24<nick>What debian package contains tcpd.h and other headers and libraries for building vsftpd and any other tcp based programs from source?
17:25<amphi>nick: ask apt-file
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17:25<amphi>or you could use apt-get builddep
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17:26<sture_>I've got a major problem. Since I updated my system with apt-get update yesterday nothing in X does work properly. The mouse or keyboard aren't usable. It seems the module are missing. Is there a easy way of restoring a system?
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17:27<sture_>I just need the most basic working
17:27<sture_>like: mouse & keyboard! :D
17:27<ben_>no takers on my question?
17:27<sture_>amphi: sorry, didnt see your comment! is that enough?
17:28<nick>builddep is not listed as a package using apt-get. Is there no meta package for headers for building all types of packages?
17:28<sture_>hm. sorry. you answer wasn't for me... god.
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17:32<nick>will installing the linux-header package for my kernel help the problem if it was not installed to begin with?
17:32<panzer>hi how intro a chanel in spanish
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17:32<amphi>simonrvn: eh?
17:32<amphi>simonrvn: bah, ETAB
17:33<krishna_>panzer: #debian-es
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17:33<panzer>pfff thanks
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17:35<james__>hae batties
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17:36<james__>hae batty
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17:36<james__>lkol
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17:39<pierre_>hi !
17:39<james__>hi
17:39<james__>how are u
17:40<pierre_>fine and you ? …
17:40<james__>gud gud
17:40<james__>lol
17:41<pierre_>:-)
17:41<james__>u from usa?
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17:42<martin>chur brother's
17:42<james__>chur
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17:43<Guest3686>james went on scat porn
17:44<james__>lol ...
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17:48<shivraj>does anyone know what version of bcm43xx driver I have to use for the 2.6.25 kernel ?
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17:49<dmoerner>shivraj: b43
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17:52<nick>What can I put in one of the files in apt.conf.d to make apt download recamanded and suggested packages automatically?
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17:54<dmoerner>nick: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99local should have APT::Install-Recommends "1";
17:54<dmoerner>and APT::Install-Suggests "1";
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17:59<shivraj>anyone know if this works in 2.6.25 ? Broadcom Corporation BCM4306
18:00<nick>that file did not exist so I created it. Where did you get that file for apt?
18:00<shivraj>when I do SET ESSID with iwconfig it says failed
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18:14<nick>If I use tasksel to remove packages and then later want to reinstall say the mail server will it keep my configuration for that package or will I need to reconfigure the package?
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18:15<lor>hi
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18:15<Ryan52>nick: configuration will stay unless you purged it.
18:15<lor>rkhunter warned me about some hidden directories...
18:15<lor>[00:13:35] Warning: Hidden directory found: /etc/.java
18:15<lor>[00:13:35] Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.static
18:15<lor>[00:13:36] Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.udev
18:15<lor>[00:13:36] Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.initramfs
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18:15<lor>is this a normal thing?
18:15<Ryan52>!pastebin
18:15<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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18:16<lor>http://rafb.net/p/714nVu38.html
18:16<Ryan52>ya, those are fine
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18:17<lor>ok :)
18:17<lor>thank you
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18:17<Schreck>Hello
18:18<Ryan52>lor: so as long as I didn't install a rootkit on your systema and am only telling you this to make you think that your safe, then your fine :)
18:18<Ryan52>Schreck: hello
18:18<Schreck>:)
18:18<Schreck>I'd like to know if it's possible in bash
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18:18<lor>Ryan52, double checked. :)
18:18<Schreck>Entering hours, minutes and seconds
18:18<Ryan52>Schreck: if what is possible in bash?
18:18<Schreck>And calculate time + 1 second
18:19<Schreck>So without using system date
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18:22<Schreck>Ryan52 possible ? :)
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18:22<Ryan52>Schreck: I just use ruby :P
18:22<Schreck>lol Oka thanks anyway
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18:49<foxdie>anybody knows how to put "fortunes" on login?
18:49<foxdie>I've put it on the /etc/bash.bashrc
18:49<foxdie>but I only got fortunes in X's, no in tty's
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18:58<foxdie>can someone tell me in which file is readed /etc/motd?
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19:05<tcsetattr>traditionally motd would be displayed by /bin/login ... in a PAM system I suppose there's a PAM module that does it
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19:07<foxdie>ok, thanks
19:07<foxdie>what I want to do is to generate different fortunes messages in each login
19:08<foxdie>I've done it for X sessions, but nothing appears in tty's
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19:12<foxdie>well, that's solved
19:12<foxdie>I only have to edit profile :P
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19:24<Oti>Hallo zusammen
19:25<Oti>bin ein Debian Newbie und möchte das Etch installieren, aber der Installer schlägt fehl :(
19:25<abrotman>!de
19:25<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de)
19:25<abrotman>or english here
19:25<Oti>oh, Sorry
19:26<Oti>but you can understand waht I mean :P
19:26<streuner_>no
19:26<abrotman>i got newbie .. and etch :)
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19:26<Oti>hehehe
19:26<abrotman>i can read hostmasks and see arcor-ip .. which AFAIK is always germany
19:26<streuner_>he wants to install via etch d-i, but it didn't work
19:26<Oti>ok
19:26<abrotman>Oti: how new is the computer?
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19:27<Oti>that the Problem I think
19:27<abrotman>or can you explain in english why it doesn't work ?
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19:27<Oti>the Hardware is to new for Etch
19:27<Oti>ok, I try it on English ^^
19:28<abrotman>Oti: there is an etchnhalf installer with a newer kernel that may work
19:28<Oti>I'm a newbie in Debian World and wan't to install etch on my PC
19:28<Oti>abrotman: can you tell me who can I found this
19:28<abrotman>!etchnhalf
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19:28<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf, or <etchnhalf facts>
19:29<abrotman>holy jeez!
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19:29<shivraj>hi I am trying to get a bcm4306 wireless card to work in 2.6.25
19:29<abrotman>b43 ?
19:29<shivraj>I usually configure it with iwconfig eth1 essid binarynet in 2.6.22
19:29<shivraj>but its not letting me do that in 2.6.25
19:30<streuner_>!listvals 4306
19:30<dpkg>Factoid search of '4306' by value (2): rfc2235 ;; which b43.
19:31<Oti>think you evrybody
19:31<Oti>I try this first, than give you later feedback ;)
19:31<streuner_>sure, that's what we need ;-)
19:32<abrotman>!b43
19:32<dpkg>methinks b43 is the new driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g and 802.11a wireless chipsets (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43), included since kernel 2.6.24. Use <b43-fwcutter> to extract version 4 firmware for this driver. USB devices are not supported (for 4320, see <rndis_wlan>). Supported devices list at http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/devices Legacy BCM43xx devices are supported by the <b43legacy> driver. See also ...
19:32<abrotman>like that?
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19:35<streuner_>Oti: firmware isn't in debian-installers...
19:35<streuner_>Oti: keep that in mind...
19:35<streuner_>Oti: so just copy the firmware into /lib/firmware
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19:39<streuner_>if that's too hard for you, you could use <kmuto's installer> (/msg dpkg kmuto)
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20:09<Oti>Streuner_: Why not, the docus says the oposite of that :/
20:09<streuner_>fine
20:09<Oti>from the docu: Firmware-Blobs zur Verwendung mit dem 2.6.24er Kernel hinzugefügt.
20:09<Oti>sorry, I found it just in german ^^
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20:11<Oti>and waht is Kmuto :)
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20:11<Oti>Streuner_ what is kmuto?
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20:12<streuner_>!kmuto
20:12<dpkg>For etch (or sarge) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/, or ask me about <etchnhalf>.
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20:19<Oti>oh, think you for the Infos...i read the docus on Debian homepage and it seem not to be complex
20:20<Oti>so i think, i try it this way
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20:22<Oti>So, I must reboot my Pc now, see you later and thank you a lot lads ;)
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20:46<Oti>it seem that the cd isn't bootable :/
20:47<Oti>any Idea, how to solve this problem
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20:47<Oti>??
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20:49<shivraj>I cant find nvidia-glx .. anyone know ?
20:49<angasule>shivraj: in sid, I think
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20:50<stevecotton>it'll be in contrib or non-free
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20:50<stevecotton>!nvidia
20:50<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net).
20:50<shivraj>what about the xorg drivers ?
20:51<shivraj>stevecotton : .. I went through all of that
20:51<stevecotton>The xorg ones don't have opengl - from the -glx I assumed you wanted the non-free ones.
20:51<shivraj>I was able to compile nvidia-kernel-.... but the server isnt starting
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20:52<stevecotton>what error are you getting?
20:52<shivraj>driver not found
20:52<shivraj>no screens found .. no xserver
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20:54<Oti>!etchnhalf
20:54<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf, or <etchnhalf facts>
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20:54<shivraj>(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
20:54<shivraj>(WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
20:55<Oti>!etchnhalffacts
20:55<Oti>!etchnhalf facts
20:55<dpkg>etchnhalf facts is, like, <etchnhalf>, <bnx2>, <alsa firmware>, <maestro3>, <cs46xx etch>, <bcm43xx>, <b43>, <b43legacy>, <b43-fwcutter>, <n2100>, <nv>, <iwlwifi>, <atl2>,
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20:55<stevecotton>how many packages are found by "dpkg -l 'nvidia-kernel*'" ?
20:56*stevecotton uses the ones directly from nvidia, but that's probably more fiddly.
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20:57<shivraj>||/ Name Version Description
20:57<shivraj>+++-==============-==============-==================
20:58<shivraj>un nvidia-kernel <none> (no description available)
20:58<shivraj>un nvidia-kernel- <none> (no description available)
20:58<qq>!paste
20:58<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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21:00<stevecotton>that means the drivers aren't installed from the .deb files that you built. Try "dpkg --install ______.deb"
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21:01<shivraj>stevecotton : pastebin.com/m77b9e07b
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21:02<shivraj>theres abt 5 more things there
21:02<stevecotton>ah, that's better
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21:03<shivraj>so what do you think ?
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21:07<stevecotton>I think it's in non-free http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/
21:07<stevecotton>add non-free to you /etc/apt/sources.list, and it should be installable
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21:29<s3a>how do i get the package virtualbox-ose-modules in debian ETCH i386 (im currently using the etchnhalf kernel)
21:30<shivraj>my nvidia_drv.so is not in /usr/lib/xorg/../drivers/
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21:34<mourad>salut
21:34<mourad>hi
21:34<s3a>im having problems with virtualbox-ose in etchnhalf, its saying: "Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root." plz help
21:35<stevecotton>shivraj: I'm going to leave that to someone who has installed drivers the Debian way, sorry.
21:35<mourad>frensh??
21:35<stevecotton>!fr
21:35<dpkg>[fr] Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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21:36<stevecotton>Hmm - the French version of that is nice and polite. Shame some of the other languages aren't as good.
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21:38<T_X>hi there. I'm using sirc atm. how can I add a timestamp to every entry in the logfile?is it possible to have a seperate logfile for every channel? Is it possible to have an extra folder for logfiles for each server?
21:38<T_X>or should I use a different client for that?
21:39<newsense>kvirc has that i believe but im not promoting it at all !
21:39<newsense>never used sirc so im not sure
21:39<newsense>maybe they have a chanel on freenode
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21:44<T_X>hmm, no, freenode doesn't have a sirc-channel
21:44<T_X>and I think kvirc is not for me, I'm looking for a console application
21:44<astronut>T_X: that's the default irssi logformat
21:44<astronut>i don't know about sirc
21:44<astronut>T_X: try irssi
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21:44<astronut>it's a very very popular console irc client, used by tons of people, including me
21:45<astronut>and i think it logs exactly like you asked by default
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21:45<astronut>i get one folder per network, one log per channel, timestamped to the minute
21:46<T_X>yeah, that's what I want
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21:46<astronut>i don't tink i ever changed any settings
21:46<astronut>so by default irssi does that
21:46<T_X>oki doki, I'll have a look at irssi
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21:47<T_X>thx
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21:48<astronut>sure
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21:55<gsimmons>s3a: So build a 'virtualbox-ose-modules-*' package for your kernel. Ask dpkg about backports.org (/msg dpkg backports.org), then "aptitude -t etch-backports install virtualbox-ose-source module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a -t a-i virtualbox-ose && modprobe vboxdrv".
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22:10<n30h4x>i need to talk to someone about connecting to my server across the internet
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22:12<abrotman>!interfaces
22:12<dpkg>Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>.
22:12<shivraj>stevecotton : what do you think abt nvidia vs ati ?
22:12<shivraj>stevecotton : mine is working now
22:12<shivraj>I have an nvidia 8500 gt card ...
22:12<shivraj>good but not great .. xorg still needs a lot of work ........
22:13<n30h4x>can anyone help me?
22:13<[Jarrod]>anyone able to provide some help with apache2 and mod_auth_shadow ?
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22:19<T_X>and according to the startup howto of irssi, socks-proxies are not working?
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22:59<j0Hn>could anyone teach me how to setup linux as router
23:00<j0Hn>i have debian woody installed in my box, and i have broadband connection to access internet
23:00<j0Hn>now, that i want to share my connection to my other computer, how do i do that?
23:00<abrotman>uhm .. don't use woody for that
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23:00<j0Hn>i have read that linux can do router same thing as small appliance router like linksys or dlink
23:00<abrotman>!ipmasq
23:00<dpkg>If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html
23:00<j0Hn>why?
23:00<abrotman>because woody hasn't been supported since like .. 2005?
23:01<abrotman>maybe 2004
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23:47<superme>hi everybody. i've got a file like this because of a pb with a HD. (ls -l)
23:47<superme>-????????? ? ? ? ? ? imgp2311.jpg
23:47<superme>i tryed to remove it with rm -f and shred -f. No succes. Some ideas ?
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23:48<blarson>superme: umount and fsck
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23:50<superme>blarson: thanks, i try it (after on shot of man fsck !)
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23:59<MadHag>is there a commant to tell which version of debian my server is?
23:59<MadHag>*command
23:59<blarson>MadHag: cat /etc/debian_version
23:59<MadHag>thnaks
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