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#debian IRC Logs for 2008-09-13

---Logopened Sat Sep 13 00:00:16 2008
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00:00<MotoHoss>sysop: I know, I didn't want to install anything on hers either...
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00:09<RIVE>Hi, good evening.
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00:10<Uje>hi
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00:22<GhostlyDeath|Laptop>NET SPLIT!!!
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00:23<GhostlyDeath|Laptop>NET SPLIT
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00:24<path>run for your life
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00:42<snogglethorpe>thank god for rcirc...
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01:02<Cadavre>anyne there?
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01:03<daniiel>i am
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01:12<oipunx>hm
01:13<oipunx>where do you get kernel source 2.6 from?
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01:15<hecate>www.kernel.org?
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01:16<kingsley>oipunx: aptitude install linux-source-2.6.26 (or linux-tree-2.6.26)
01:17<Cadavre>anyone knows bash script a lot?
01:17<Cadavre>or at least a little?
01:17<Cadavre>i got a simple bash script I dont know how to solve my problem
01:17<oipunx>apt couldnt find it
01:17<kingsley>Cadavre: I'm OK w/ bash. You may also inquire on #bash at freenode.
01:17<Cadavre>oh!
01:18<Cadavre>thanks for the tip
01:18<Cadavre>http://pastebin.ca/1201573
01:18<Cadavre>watch this simple script
01:18<Cadavre>I want to put a third command
01:18<Cadavre>how can i do it?
01:19<kingsley>echo "third command" >> script-file-name
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01:21<Cadavre>ah
01:21<Cadavre>:)
01:21<Cadavre>ill try
01:21<oipunx>kingsley: will that work for installing nvidia driver?
01:21<oipunx>it was complainging about "no precompiled kernel"
01:24<kingsley>oipunx: Unfortunately, when I checked a few weeks ago, I didn't see any comprehensive instructions on the web for installing nvidia's driver.
01:25<oipunx>http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/177.13/README/chapter-04.html
01:26<hecate>oipunx u just need linux-header not the entire sources
01:26<oipunx>well it says it wants to download the kernel-source when u run the installer
01:27<kingsley>oipunx: All I can suggest is scouring Google's indices for howto install nvidia's drivers on debian, and wehen you receive an error message, search google's indices for that too.
01:28<kingsley>s/wehen/when/
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01:29<oipunx>before it extracts
01:30<Wyzard>oipunx: Use the packages, not nVidia's installer script
01:30<oipunx>it's like "No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel"
01:30<oipunx>the package didnt work
01:30<oipunx>no driver for gtx280
01:30<Wyzard>backports might have a newer one
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01:32<oipunx>hm ther's not one for lenny amd64
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01:38<oipunx>ugh no libc header files?
01:38<oipunx>which package contains libc?
01:40<hecate>u want to heard the procedure to istall your driver or u prefer keep looking for a miracle solution?
01:40<stevecotton>libc6-dev
01:41<oipunx>thx
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01:42<stevecotton>it you're installing from Nvidia's website, the beta 177.70 seems to be the only one worth having :( 173.14.12 has major framerate problems in UT2004.
01:43<stevecotton>at least, that's my experience
01:44<stevecotton>!nvidia one liner
01:44<dpkg>methinks nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32). Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>.
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01:46<oipunx>i tried this version http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/
01:46<oipunx>but it didnt support my gpu
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02:00<Wyzard>oipunx: There are several versions there
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02:01<Wyzard>but the newer ones are packages for lenny/sid and won't work with etch's version of xorg
02:01<Wyzard>That's why you need to check backports.org for a newer version that's actually built for etch
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02:04<eV>when is sid scheduled to be stable?
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02:05<Zoup>Im looking for a way to automatic configuration of exim4-config package ( normally its dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ) , is there any way to allow 'scripting' auto configuration of such packages ?
02:05<eV>or is it never going to be released as stable?
02:06<eV>So whats the next stable release goin to be ?
02:06<Wyzard>eV: sid is perpetually unstable
02:06<Wyzard>eV: The next stable release will be lenny, which is currently in freeze to prepare for release
02:07<Wyzard>The freeze process takes months, though
02:07<eV>i'm on lenny now, :)
02:07<eV>i though it was stable, its been running fine
02:07<Wyzard>Even unstable isn't actually very unstable
02:07<Wyzard>but lenny currently is testing and not an official release
02:08<eV>Oh,
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02:33<oipunx>!mcp55
02:33<oipunx>!nvidia mcp55
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03:02<DylanJ>hi all, does any1 here possibley have some good cups knowledge.. i need to install a text-only printer urgently
03:05*path sighs
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03:07<DylanJ>please guys ive tried everything... i really need some help on this...
03:08<path>could you be more specific ?
03:08<path>it would be helpful to know what printer is for example :-)
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03:09<DylanJ>im so sorry bout that.. it's an HERO TH 200
03:10<DylanJ>it worx with no problems on windows with generic text
03:10<DylanJ>and i need to prove it can work on linux...
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03:10<DylanJ>sorry more info...
03:11<DylanJ>it's a thermal docket/receipt printer
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03:25<DylanJ>i'm gonna cry:'(
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04:41<Tuplad>Hey! I have a problem. I have sound from media players, but not from web browsers. How can I solve that ? I haven't found a decent answer on google ;(
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04:58<Tuplad>anyone?
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05:16<Tuplad>Hey! I have a problem. I have sound from media players, but not from web browsers. How can I solve that ? I haven't found a decent answer on google ;(
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05:19<wombding>I need some help genereting valid modelines for the resolutions 1024x768 and 800x600. I have a working modeline for 1360x768 that looks like this "Modeline "1360x768" 85.500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +Hsync +Vsync".
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05:54<uldics>Hello all!
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05:55<uldics>Anyone could help with the nvidia-glx problem?
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06:02<uldics>Doctor, i have a problem - I think everybody ignores me.
06:03<uldics>Neext!!
06:05<wombding>what is your problem?
06:05<cogwheel>!patience
06:05<dpkg>methinks patience is The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
06:07<uldics>i had nvidia graphic card, then i changed to ati, installed ati drivers, works fine. I have the nvidia-glx installed still. It is said it can be removed, but it does not allow me to remove it
06:08<cogwheel>what's the exact error message?
06:08<uldics>oh sory, it says it is not installed, but only residual config
06:08<uldics>E: nvidia-glx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
06:09<cogwheel>hmm...
06:09<uldics>sub process /usr/bindpkg returned an error code 1
06:10<uldics>A package failed to install. Trying to recover
06:10<uldics>thats the info i get
06:11<uldics>both when ati driver running with acceleration, also when it was not with acceleration, also when single user without Xserver running
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06:12<Tuplad>I also have a problem :}
06:13<helmut>Lethalman: pong
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06:15<wombding>try to remove the module and then uninstall?
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06:17<uldics>will take a look at modules
06:17<uldics>but would the module still load if i have ati, not nvidia hardware now??
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06:19<uldics>looks like no modules with names related to nvidia
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06:34<parecen>!snapshot
06:34<dpkg>from memory, snapshots is an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information.
06:34<parecen>!lvm
06:34<dpkg>lvm is, like, the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm @ irc.freenode.net.
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07:16<cTATUK>Could anyone possibly repackage this to have a requirement of python >= 2.4 instead of >= 2.5? :) ... http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15238067/ufw_0.17_all.deb
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07:25<Kebianizao>Hello
07:26<Kebianizao>I build 2.6.26.3 myself using make-kpkg, I didn't clean the build dir and now I want to use what I can from there after I have patched source to 2.6.26.5, this is my command:
07:26<Kebianizao>CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 nice -15 make-kpkg --revision=0.1 --append-to-version=-toi3rc7 --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image
07:26<Kebianizao>which is the same I used before, and this is the error I get:
07:26<Kebianizao>The changelog says we are creating 2.6.26.3-toi3-rc7
07:26<Kebianizao>However, I thought the version is 2.6.26.5-toi3rc7
07:27<Kebianizao>any ideas to avoid having to invoke the clean target?
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07:39<Kebianizao>Looks I've been hit by http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477778
07:39<Kebianizao>:S
07:40<Kebianizao>I'll need to workaround using ccache or smth like that :/
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07:41<maxwel>ola pessoal,sou novo na area ,um abraço para todos.
07:42-!-mode/#debian [+l 356] by debhelper
07:42<cTATUK>Does anyone know a good alternative to firestarter? I want to avoid kdelibs so guidedog is out and I can't find etch-compatible ufw packages.. :|
07:44<cTATUK>maxwel: ola ..
07:45<cTATUK>Acontecerá a falar Inglês?
07:46<maxwel>ola beleza
07:46<maxwel>nao falo em ingles, nao
07:46<maxwel>mas entendo algumas coisas
07:48<cTATUK>Eu sou um homem então por favor não me chamar `beleza'. :)
07:48<Kebianizao>!pt
07:48<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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07:48<cTATUK>!br
07:48<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
07:49<Tuplad>Hey! I have a problem. I have sound from media players, but not from web browsers. How can I solve that ? I haven't found a decent answer on google ;(
07:49<maxwel>como posso installar no meu ubuntu
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08:01<JRHartley>Tuplad: are you running a sound server like arts, esd or pulse ?
08:02<Tuplad>JRHartley: probably
08:02<JRHartley>Tuplad: sound servers account for nearly all sound problems in linux. my advice - completely uninstall any sound servers
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08:02<JRHartley>Tuplad: is it gnome or kde or what ?
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08:05<Tuplad>JRHartley: Gnome
08:06<Tuplad>JRHartley: but if I delete the servers, wont' my sound disappear?
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08:07<JRHartley> *!*@d54C44826.access.telenet.be added to ignore list
08:07<Tuplad>:\ ?
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08:19<mejo>i didn't find anything in the manpage. rotate, size, maxage, ... are all options which limit the existance of old rotated logfiles.
08:20<mejo>but i want logrotate to rotate the logfiles without deleting old ones.
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08:52<kyrsquir>hello, I have a debian installed with grub2 bootloader. how to add to grub2 booting screen an option to boot freebsd which i've just installed?
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09:00<noflash>kyrsquir, man grub
09:01<mejo>kyrsquir: you need to add a section to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
09:01<mejo>or take a look at os-prober.
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09:02<mejo>kyrsquir: I think that os-prober detects your freebsd installation and update-grub adds a section to grub.cfg automaticly
09:03<mejo>'apt-get install os-prober && update-grub' should do the trick. check /boot/grub/grub.cfg afterwards.
09:03<kyrsquir>noflash: man grub says "no man for grub"
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09:04<kyrsquir>mejo: I have a 30_os-prober file in grub.d
09:04<kyrsquir>mejo: does this mean anything?
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09:05<mejo>kyrsquir: that's the script which invokes os-prober at updating your grub.cfg
09:05<mejo>but you have to install os-prober to actually make it work
09:05<kyrsquir>mejo: ahh ok
09:05<jstein>does anyone have an idea, when KDE 4.x will come with debian testing?
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09:06<mejo>update-grub is a script which automaticly updates your grub.cfg (the grub2 equivalent for menu.lst from grub1)
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09:06<mejo>so as I said, 'apt-get install os-prober && update-grub' should do the trick.
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09:07<mejo>take a look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg afterwards, and see whether a section for your freebsd has been added.
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09:09<kyrsquir>mejo: nothing added
09:09<mejo>ok, then you'll have to add a section to /etc/grub.d/40_custom yourself.
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09:12<mejo>copy a section from /boot/grub/grub.cfg into /etc/grub.d/40_custom and adjust it for your freebsd installation
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09:13<thepretender84>i am running lenny w/ 2.6.26-1-686 kernel and for some reason, my touchpad dies after a few hours
09:13<thepretender84>when I stop X and run dmesg, i get pmouse.c Glidepoint at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization throwing 1 bytes away
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09:14<kyrsquir>mejo: which section?
09:14<thepretender84>and "unexpected IRQ trap at vector d9"
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09:15<mejo>kyrsquir: http://wiki.debian.org/Grub/grub.cfg.manpage
09:15<kyrsquir>mejo: isn't it manpage for grub1?
09:16<mejo>no, grub1 didn't have grub.cfg. in grub1, the config file was called menu.lst. in grub2, it's grub.cfg
09:17<kyrsquir>mejo: aah, ok, I'm stupid, sorry
09:17<mejo>you need to add a menusection for your freebsd to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, and afterwards invoke update-grub again.
09:18<mejo>sorry, meant menuentry, not menusection
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09:19<kyrsquir>mejo: that is clear, but what exactly to add isn't...
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09:22<mejo>something like: menuentry "My FreeBSD installation" { set root=(hd1,3) freebsd /path/to/freebsd-kernel ... }
09:23<mejo>i don't know the exact syntax for freebsd. check the grub.cfg syntax at http://wiki.debian.org/Grub/grub.cfg.manpage and try it out
09:23<mejo>at least the os loader commands 'freebsd, freebsd_loadenv and freebsd_module' do exist.
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09:25<kyrsquir>mejo: I'm thinking of a 40_custom file like that: http://pastebin.com/d53798439
09:25<kyrsquir>mejo: but not sure what should be inside root ()
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09:26<mejo>kyrsquir: that's the syntax for grub1 menu.lst.
09:26<mejo>it doesn't work for grub2 grub.cfg
09:26<kyrsquir>mejo: oops
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09:28<mejo>http://pastebin.com/m34c8f3fe <- that would be the correct syntax for grub2 grub.cfg
09:28<mejo>the value of root needs to be the device (harddisk partition) where freebsd is installed.
09:29<mejo>(hd1) is your first harddisk, (hd1,0) the first partition on the first harddisk.
09:29<mejo>what is the linux device name for your freebsd partition? usually /dev/hda1 = (hd1,0), /dev/hdb3 = (hd2,2) and so on
09:31<kyrsquir>mejo: here is my fdisk -l result: http://pastebin.com/m274a8d1
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09:34<mejo>kyrsquir: so if /dev/sda1 is your freebsd partition, what would that be in grubs partition namespace according to what i told you?
09:35<kyrsquir>mejo: lol
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09:35<kyrsquir>mejo: (hd1,0)?
09:35<mejo>exactly
09:35<kyrsquir>thanks^)
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09:36<mejo>i don't know anything about freebsd though. don't know whether 'freebsd /path/to/kernel' is enough or whether you need freebsd-module as well.
09:36<mejo>i would say give it a try
09:37<kyrsquir>mejo: ok then, thanks a lot
09:37<kyrsquir>mejo: i'll make a try
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09:47<qq->
09:47<qq->GRUB's numbering system for devices starts with 0, not 1. Failing to make this distinction is one of the most common mistakes made by new GRUB users.
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09:48<snogglethorpe>i dunno why linux used such silly device names
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09:48<snogglethorpe>it would have been nice if it had just copied the traditional bsd device naming convention
09:48<harm-jan>hi all
09:48<snogglethorpe>which is much more sensible
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09:48<harm-jan>i currently have a problem installing / booting debian etch
09:49<harm-jan>is there someone who can help me
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09:50<qq->!tell harm-jan -about ask
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09:51<harm-jan>i see
09:51<snogglethorpe>!tell snogglethorpe about tell
09:52<harm-jan>my question is as follows: i'm running two SATA disks on an SATA controller
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09:52<harm-jan>the problem is my motherboard won't boot from it (because it rejects pci-card biosses)
09:52<mejo>qq-: but something about grubs device numbering system changed from grub1 to grub2.
09:52<harm-jan>so i wanted to make a USB boot disk, containing /boot and the bootloader
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09:53<snogglethorpe>mejo: oh that sounds useful
09:53<mejo>either the disk numbering or the partition numbering. i don't remember anymore
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09:53<harm-jan>so grub now gives a nice hard disk error message
09:54<mejo>if i remember correctly, either (hd0,0) from grub1 becomes (hd0,1) or (hd1,0) in grub2.
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09:54<snogglethorpe>that's completely stupid
09:54<harm-jan>i had it working once with lilo, but have not been able to reconstruct that, since my new install
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10:01<EmleyMoor>Is there a good guide as to how to get your sound cards into the right order at all times?
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10:11<parecen>EmleyMoor: when the soundcards use a different driver you can use "index=0" and "index=1" in /etc/modprobe.d/sound
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10:44<penkoad>salut
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11:15<zumbi>!hi
11:15<dpkg>hello, zumbi
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11:16<zumbi>i am trying to do network boot to install debian on a system, i have configured dhcpd and tftp, i can tftp the server and get pxelinux.0, but when booting the machine i get an ARP timeout
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11:17<zumbi>someone has a clue why i can not tftp to the server while booting ?
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11:24<Paul-WebWare>hiya, ive just moved over from fedora core/centos systems to debain.. having a few issues with apt-get... could someone run over the key diffrences for me please?
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11:30<jackyf>!apt
11:30<dpkg>rumour has it, apt is Advanced Packaging Tool, a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, most notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. see also <apt-get> <apt-cache>
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11:30<jackyf>search(apt how-to)
11:30<enrico__>Hi
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11:31<jackyf>hi
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11:33<enrico__>when i digit alsamixer i rieved this message:
11:33<enrico__>alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
11:34<cahoot>enrico__: cat /proc/asound/cards
11:34<jackyf>enkrypt: did you run alsaconf?
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11:34<cahoot>shouldn't be needed
11:35<enrico__>cahoot, no sound card :S
11:35<cahoot>enrico__: is you the one with an ISA card?
11:36<enrico__>cahoot, i have eeepc 900 i don't now
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11:37<cahoot>enrico__: lspci -v to see what kind of soundcard
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11:38<enrico__>cahoot, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
11:39<cahoot>enrico__: try modprobe snd-hda-intel
11:40<Sey>I recently bought an AGK tablet and pen. Obviously it only comes with drivers for windows, and surprisingly mac. Ill be honest, i expected it to plug and play, but no. I've tried cache-searching ang googling for answers but get nothing, so i come to you guys: Debian, gnome, amd64, AGK tablet and pen (they only have one) Any ideas how i can get this working?
11:41<enrico__>yas the modulle of kernel was off :D
11:41<Sey>When i jab the pen onto the surface as you would to click, it recognises this, but not movement or any of the other buttons
11:41<KnuckOne>enrico__, you use etch ?
11:42<enrico__>what is etch?
11:42<KnuckOne>debian stable
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11:44<enrico__>i have installed debian whit this installer: V
11:44<enrico__>DebianEeePC/HowTo/WPAInstaller-Beta.
11:45<Sey>I use etch and i doubt it is mouse input conflict due to me removing the mouse
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11:46<enrico__>now i have anoter little problem... how i can insert volume icon in syste try (Gnome)?
11:46<cahoot>sound volume or disk volume?
11:47<enrico__>sound volume
11:48<cahoot>gnome-mixer-applet IIRC
11:48<enrico__>where i can find?
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11:49<cahoot> try /msg dpkg find
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11:51<oipunx>does wine needs to have its own partition?
11:51<enrico__>cahoot, i don't have gnome-mixer.applet
11:52<cahoot>gnome-mixer-applet
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11:52<enrico__>yes sorry i'm sercing to synaptic gnome-alsa-mixer
11:53<enrico__>mhhhhhhh gnome-mixer-applet :)
11:53<dpalacio>oipunx: It doesn need one. It installs everything under $HOME/.wine
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11:53<oipunx>ok thx
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11:56<enrico__>i don't find gnome-mixer-applet
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11:57<seven>enrico__: try gnome-applets
11:57<kyrsquir>hey mejo r u here?
11:59<enrico__>seven, gnome-applets, gnome-applets-data are installed... gnome-applets-dbg is not installed
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12:01<seven>enrico__: take a look if you have /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2
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12:04<enrico__>seven, is not present
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12:06<seven>enrico__: try run: dpkg -L gnome-applets | grep mixer
12:06<seven>it shows something?
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12:07<enrico__>seven, /usr/share/man/man1/mixer_applet.1.gz
12:07<enrico__>/usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2
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12:09<seven>enrico__: it's there, you just need to put it into gnome-panel
12:10<enrico__>mhh yes... but i want to inser tnear data end clock
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12:16<cahoot>enrico__: add to panel, rightclick choose move
12:16<enrico__>yes, but it'isnt position nera lock
12:16<cahoot>so move it?
12:16<seven>enrico__: right click on the other applets, unlock then and move it
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12:17<enrico__>seven, now is perfet, thank you
12:18<seven>no problem :)
12:18<enrico__>seven, now i must configur xorg.conf because many windows are very big for desktop......
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12:27<neiljp>I'm having a very annoying problem with oo.o on amd64 - I've used it for a long time and have various documents, but just recently it freezes whenever it loads a document :(
12:27<michael-r>hey guys, my system (sid amd64, using gnome) doesn't detect any audio cds anymore... ideas why this could be ?
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12:57<enrico__>i want to onfigure xorg.conf for eeepc900.. i use this link section "Display resolution and desktop size"???? V
12:57<enrico__>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Configure#head-15f08cc2a92c77c1fbbecf23b20c03f179def73a
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13:10<slept>i need help using modprobe , I would like to give the following options i got from modinfo when loading the module, but i can't figure out how parm: media:8139too: Bits 4+9: force full duplex, bit 5: 100Mbps (array of int) and parm: full_duplex:8139too: Force full duplex for board(s) (1) (array of int)
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13:12<cahoot>slept: miit-tool doesn't do the job?
13:13<cahoot>err mii-tool
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13:17<slept>cahoot, no unfortunatly not. neither mii-tool nor ethtool can get the card to full duplex , when changing it it says that it is using full duplex, but when checking it with rtl8139diag I find out it is still half-duplex. I am sure that this is rught since the connection speed is less lan 150kb/s I checked on other freebsd and windows to verify that this is not an issu with the cable or switch ... h
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13:22<slept>I put all the information i can get about the problem on http://pastebin.com/m20d96f52
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13:24<slept>since this sucks so bad I would even consider writing to the eprom ... but first it would be great if someone could explain how to give parameters to the module that I can give it a try
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13:28<oipunx>where is the vi/vim configs stored at
13:29<oipunx>i tried using .viminfo but it didnt restore all the configs
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13:29<rutski>What's the deal with debian's lib6-dev's unistd.h defining _XOPEN_VERSION as 500 when SUSv3 clearly states that it should be set to 600? It's not 1995 anymore, that feature test macro would should be there given that I have the latest debian stable :-/
13:31<rutski>perhaps this is the wrong channel?
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13:32<rutski>wait... no; it's a debian issue I think, because a reasonably recent version of glibc does the right thing I think; I should probably check that.
13:32<helmut>rutski: maybe someone at #debian-glibc knows, but they're often busy
13:32<rutski>oh, wow; didn't know there was such a channel, nice
13:33<helmut>rutski: if it doesn't exist there is debian-glibc@lists.d.o.
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13:33<rutski>ah, I see
13:33<rutski>it does exist though
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13:38<rutski>ah, it looks like glibc 2.6 is the first to support _XOPEN_VERSION as 600, which is from May 2007
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13:39<rutski>and Debian stable is on glibc 2.3.6, which is from Nov 2005
13:40<oipunx>anyone know?
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13:40<seven>oipunx: try $HOME/.vimrc ou /etc/vim/vimrc
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13:42<oipunx>ok thanks
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13:44<oipunx>awesome it worked
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14:29<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to find out why iceweasel is crashing on my laptop when I call up certain sites, but my desktop likes them
14:29<EmleyMoor>?
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14:31<Cadavre>porn
14:31<Cadavre>;D
14:32<EmleyMoor>Also, when I tried to start my laptop on battery power, it just stopped at setting the system clock... why would it do that? It works fine on external power
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14:57<chealer>EmleyMoor: do you use any plugin or extension on any of these installations?
15:02<KnuckOne>EmleyMoor, what it says ? it talks about APIC ? (not ACPI, APIC !)
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15:06<EmleyMoor>chealer: It could be a difference there but I am not sure how to see how
15:06<EmleyMoor>KnuckOne: It just plain stops
15:06<chealer>EmleyMoor: which Debian suites are installed?
15:08<EmleyMoor>I am not sure what would be relevant there...
15:08<KnuckOne>mmm anyway if it works on power and not in battery so it's probably apic or acpi
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15:08<EmleyMoor>(how do I identify a relevant "suite"?)
15:09<EmleyMoor>KnuckOne: It only doesn't finish starting, that's the funny thing.
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15:09<KnuckOne>yep. pass the parameter 'noapic' to grub
15:09<KnuckOne>you know how to do it
15:09<KnuckOne>?
15:09<EmleyMoor>I will try that next time it crops up...
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15:11<chealer>dpkg: suite
15:11<dpkg>chealer: i don't know
15:11<KnuckOne>!suite
15:11<chealer>!debian suite
15:11<dpkg>To determine which version of debian you are running, run $ cat /etc/debian_version; If this outputs "lenny/sid", ask me about <testing/unstable>.
15:11<KnuckOne>nope it doesn't know what it means, even with 'tell me'
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15:11<KnuckOne>ah :)
15:11<chealer>dpkg: suite is <reply>see debian suite
15:11<dpkg>okay, chealer
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15:12<EmleyMoor>lenny in that case on both
15:12<LarsKL>hey. got a problem with my eee701. in Xorg all AltGr+something keys are somewhat broken. e.g. to get "[" i usually have to press AltGr+8, on the eee i have to press it twice quickly to get one. for other chars it's even worse, e.g. "|" is Fn+AltGr+Y but to get it I have to do AltGr+8 twice to get a [ and when I then quickly press Fn+AltGr+Y I can get a |. outside of X it works as expected, so does it in cat
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15:12<newbie>please... does anyone know if comquiz will run in a mesa-gl with a semprem 3000 processor ?
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15:12<chealer>EmleyMoor: start by making sure both installs use the same set of plugins and extensions
15:12<Golf>Hi all
15:13<EmleyMoor>chealer: Plugins and extensions are the same
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15:13<Golf>anyone any idea what type of codex a m4v is? vlc isn't playing it in Debian :-(
15:14<chealer>EmleyMoor: including the versions, right?
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15:14<upsilon>Golf: http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/m4v
15:15<upsilon>itunes :(
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15:16<Golf>ah, mp4a... hmm, but why doesn't it show a vid and does with vlc on windows?
15:16<Golf>B.t.w. I don't have itunes installed on windows...
15:16<upsilon>maybe you can get more codecs I dunno
15:16<EmleyMoor>Different flash, no mozplugger or gxine plugin on laptop - will try to sort that
15:16<upsilon>!vlc
15:16<dpkg>from memory, vlc is the VideoLAN media player, which can also broadcast. It can also be used standalone as a normal MPEG2/DVD player. Available in stable and unstable. Upstream homepage: http://www.videolan.org
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15:17<daniiel>!apm
15:17<dpkg>methinks apm is Advanced Power Management, a long-obsolete standard that allowed the BIOS to handle power management on PC-compatibles. but ACPI is better (somewhat). See also <swsusp>
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15:18<Golf>upsilon: codexes, must be :-) Thanks mate
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15:26<kurumin>hey
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15:26<daniiel>hi
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15:30<kurumin>hey
15:31<kurumin>how do I comunicatte here?
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15:32<kurumin>hey
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15:32<kurumin>anybody there?
15:32<kurumin>anybody here?
15:32<stevecotton>!anyone
15:32<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>, or <search>
15:33<kurumin>hey
15:33<stevecotton>hmm, wrong factoid
15:33<Lethalman>!ask
15:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
15:33<kurumin>where are you from?
15:33<Lethalman>rotfl
15:33<kurumin>where?
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15:33<kurumin>hey
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15:34<kurumin>anybody here?
15:35<daniiel>yes, people are, you have a question?
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15:36<kurumin>no
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15:36<cajmer>hello, i've got a question. i'm usin sidux with kde. I was trying to install koffice, but an error with dependencies occured: http://paste.debian.net/17194/, so then i tried to install kformula, but: http://paste.debian.net/17196/. what should i do?
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15:38<stevecotton>cajmer - I think you're on the right track. Try the same again and see why kcontrol won't install.
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15:39<stevecotton>although you may need to ask in #sidux instead
15:40<oipunx>hm
15:40<oipunx>why does my flash drive only shows up as 239M here
15:40<oipunx>it shows up as 4gb in windwos
15:40<oipunx>i tried fdisk it and it stills only 239M
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15:42<cajmer>stevecotton: i think it you're probably right (it's a problem with kde) because i tried to install kcontrol and I was told to install kicker that was very confusing (i'm using kde4)
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15:50<fluxnux>hi :)
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15:54<kingsley>An NBC web site tells me I need to upgrade flash to version 9, even though I already have it. I suspect that NBC is discriminating against linux users because of it's affiliation with MicroSoft, but I suppose there could be a bug in my computer. Would some people here please tell me if http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/episodes/ works for you, or says you need to upgrade?
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15:55<LarsKL>hey. got a problem with my eee701. in Xorg all AltGr+something keys are somewhat broken. e.g. to get "[" i usually have to press AltGr+8, on the eee i have to press it twice quickly to get one. for other chars it's even worse, e.g. "|" is Fn+AltGr+Y but to get it I have to do AltGr+8 twice to get a [ and when I then quickly press Fn+AltGr+Y I can get a |. outside of X it works as expected, so does it in cat
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16:04<oipunx>anyone know why my 4gb flash only shows up as 239M?
16:04<oipunx>on debia
16:05<daniiel>still having problems with it?
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16:06<rutski>How do I upgrade to sid? I don't feel like building glibc-2.7 locally from source.
16:06<daniiel>install lenny and change your /etc/apt/sources.list
16:07<daniiel>add the sid repos
16:07<rutski>hmm, interesting; starting from etch wouldn't work? why?
16:07<daniiel>it might, it'd suggest starting from lenny
16:07<rutski>where is this all documented anyway? I haven't been able to find anything on my own.
16:07<daniiel>but i'd keep the lenny repos aswell
16:08<rutski>same question :-/
16:08<daniiel>http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html
16:08<daniiel>there is one
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16:08<daniiel>random google
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16:09<rutski>ah, thanks
16:09<daniiel>=)
16:09<rutski>I was doing "site:debian.org" in my searches
16:09<daniiel>sid might break although
16:09<daniiel>be careful and ready to fix things as i understand
16:09<daniiel>!sid
16:09<dpkg>sid is, like, the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>.
16:09<rutski>I don't mind; I enjoy that kind of thing
16:10<rutski>plus I have to have glibc-2.6+ for my posix_test.hpp to not fail; any lower glibc doesn't report SUSv3 conformance.
16:10<rutski>and etch is on glibc 2.3.6, IIRC
16:11<daniiel>that's all beyond my experience, but good luck=)
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16:11<Cadavre>!unstable
16:11<dpkg>[unstable] the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq><apt-listbugs><apt-listchanges>.
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16:12<Cadavre>!lenny
16:12<dpkg>i heard lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. To upgrade to lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Lenny is the binoculars. Lenny will be known as version 5.0 and it will hopefully be released soon (ask me about <wwlr>). A <moving target>. See also <testing> and <lenny status>.
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16:12<rutski>!sid faq
16:12<dpkg>http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html or http://weda.mine.nu/sidfaq.html (mirror), it doesn't hurt if you read the FAQ, even if you are using testing/lenny...
16:12<daniiel>haha there ya go!
16:12<rutski>daniiel: ah, there it is! :D
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16:13<daniiel>i must've gotten lucky with that google
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16:14<rutski>I would say that google is just good at finding the right resources :)
16:14<rutski>that's why google is google after all
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16:16<daniiel>!banana
16:16<daniiel>aww..
16:17<oipunx>yea daniiel i dunno why it only says 239MB
16:17<oipunx>i tried fdisk as fat32 and linux partition
16:18<daniiel>usb drive?
16:18<oipunx>yeah
16:18<oipunx>flash drvie
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16:18<daniiel>it's 1g and reads as 239?
16:18<oipunx>no it's supposed to be 4GB
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16:18<daniiel>hmm
16:19<oipunx>it formats and shows up fine on windows
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16:23<TIBS01>hey ya
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16:23<TIBS01>i just wanna know how do i install all the packages
16:23<TIBS01>ill paste wot errors im getting
16:23<TIBS01>!pastebin
16:23<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
16:24<TIBS01>http://rafb.net/p/4VYTsP50.html
16:24<TIBS01>look at that
16:24<TIBS01>errors im getting
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16:24<andres>Hi
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16:24<daniiel>oipunx sis you partition the drive?
16:24<daniiel>*did
16:24<oipunx>yeah
16:24<TIBS01>wot do i do now ?
16:25<daniiel>in fdisk/cfdisk was the size wrong aswell?
16:25<Villarroel>What is the www-data group for?
16:25<daniiel>apahce, i believe
16:25<cogwheel>Villarroel, it's the user apache uses.
16:25<TIBS01>erm
16:25<cogwheel>user and group.
16:25<TIBS01>how do i install all the packages required by all of them
16:25<oipunx>hm lemme try cfdisk
16:26<TIBS01>http://rafb.net/p/4VYTsP50.html
16:26<TIBS01>look at that
16:26<TIBS01>ineed them files installed for that package
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16:26<TIBS01>how do i install all the required files
16:26<cogwheel>so.. install them
16:26<TIBS01>yes
16:26<cogwheel>sudo apt-get install <pkg1> <pkg2> ... <pkgn>
16:26<Villarroel>cogwheel: Debian does not manage which users can publish in apache?
16:27<Villarroel>cogwheel: /var/www is owned by root.
16:27<TIBS01>-bash: sudo: command not found
16:27<TIBS01>shell:~# sudo apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl
16:27<TIBS01>-bash: sudo: command not found
16:27<cogwheel>o_O
16:27<TIBS01>:/
16:27<cogwheel>use su, login as root and install sudo.
16:28<TIBS01>im logged in as root
16:28<cogwheel>then just do apt-get install <pkg1> <pkg2> ... <pkgn>
16:28<TIBS01> Depends: libauthen-pam-perl but it is not going to be installed
16:28<TIBS01> Depends: libio-pty-perl but it is not going to be installed
16:28<TIBS01> Depends: libmd5-perl but it is not going to be installed
16:28<TIBS01>E: Unmet dependencies. Try âapt-get -f installâ with no packages (or specify a solution).
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16:29<wombding>TIBS01: Then just do apt-get -f install
16:29<cogwheel>also;
16:29<cogwheel>!sudo
16:29<dpkg>[sudo] (Substitute User DO) better than su, according to talon. It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html or you need to setup /etc/sudoers first before you can use it (ask about <visudo>)
16:29<TIBS01>Building dependency tree... Done
16:29<TIBS01>You might want to run âapt-get -f installâ to correct these:
16:29<TIBS01>The following packages have unmet dependencies.
16:29<TIBS01> webmin: Depends: libnet-ssleay-perl but it is not going to be installed
16:29<TIBS01> Depends: libauthen-pam-perl but it is not going to be installed
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16:29<oipunx>daniiel: no work
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16:29<TIBS01>done it
16:29<TIBS01>same thing
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16:30<Villarroel>TIBS01: do not flood the channel.
16:30<cogwheel>do apt-get remove webmin and then do apt-get -f install.
16:30<cogwheel>!pastebin .
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16:30<Villarroel>I preffer su, su -c "apt-get install pkg"
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16:31<TIBS01>im gonna pc u
16:31<TIBS01>cog
16:31<oipunx>hm
16:31<oipunx>wierd
16:31<daniiel>TIBS01 if your logged in as root: aptitude update ; aptitude install libnet-ssleay-perl
16:31<oipunx>i deleted the partition and it still shows as 239MB
16:32<oipunx>when doing df -h
16:32<daniiel>and on and on for the other needed packages
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16:33<daniiel>then dpkg -i webmin-XXXXXX.deb
16:33<daniiel>once you have the dependencies installed
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16:37<oipunx>whats going on, why is my swap showing up as 2gb when it's supposed to be only 500MB.
16:37<daniiel>haha, the plot thickens
16:37<daniiel>what is your /dev sceme for storage medium?
16:38<daniiel>usb drive and harddrives/partitions
16:39<oipunx>wut u mean
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16:39<oipunx>sorry, still somewhat new to debian
16:39<daniiel>what is your harddrive? /dev/hda, /dev/sda
16:39<oipunx>sda
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16:40<daniiel>whats the usb drive?
16:40<oipunx>sdc
16:40<daniiel>whats sdb?
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16:40<oipunx>that would be a separate SATA windows drive
16:41<daniiel>and you formated your swap as 500m and now its 2g? (/dev/sda2)?
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16:41<oipunx>i see it as tmpfs
16:42<daniiel>what is it in /etc/fstab
16:42<oipunx>sda5
16:43<daniiel>and the thumbdrive (sdc) is wrong aswell, one sec thinking
16:43<oipunx>hm
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16:47<daniiel>in top it lists your swap as 2gig?
16:48<oipunx>it says 499 M
16:48<daniiel>then that is how much you have
16:49<oipunx>yeah
16:49<oipunx>that's the right size
16:49<daniiel>is you usb drive mounted
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16:49<oipunx>why does df says 2gb
16:49<oipunx>no
16:49<daniiel>mount it and try du -h /dev/sdc
16:49<daniiel>err
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16:50<daniiel>du -ch /dev/sdc
16:51<oipunx>says 0
16:52<daniiel>it's empty right
16:52<oipunx>yep
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16:55<daniiel>this is confusing
16:55<oipunx>yeah
16:56<daniiel>mount command list it as sdc?
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16:56<daniiel>what kind of thumbdrive is it?
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16:57<oipunx>yep
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16:57<oipunx>it's corsair 4gb flash drive
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17:04<daniiel>try installing disktype and disktype /dev/sdc
17:05<daniiel>maybe that'll tell you something
17:06<oipunx>Partition 1: 3.780 GiB
17:06<oipunx>FAT16 file system (hints score 5 of 5) Volume size 238.8 MiB (250347520 bytes, 61120 clusters of 4 KiB)
17:07<daniiel>that's really wierd..maybe try a different filesystem on the whole drive(i.e) mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdc
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17:10<oipunx>hm
17:10<oipunx>i deleted the partition on there
17:10<oipunx>and it still says
17:10<oipunx>Block device, size 3.781 GiB (4060086272 bytes)
17:10<oipunx>FAT16 file system (hints score 5 of 5) Volume size 238.8 MiB (250347520 bytes, 61120 clusters of 4 KiB)
17:10<daniiel>try the mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdc
17:10<parecen>did you write the changes to the device and re-read the partition table?
17:11<oipunx>yeah i wrote it
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17:12<oipunx>wow that worked
17:12<oipunx>/dev/sdc 3.8G 7.6M 3.6G 1% /media/sdc
17:12<oipunx>/dev/sdc 3.8G 7.6M 3.6G 1% /media/sdc
17:12<oipunx>so something is wrong with fdisk?
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17:26<oipunx>thanks alot for your help
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17:29<makomk>Hi. I'm having a slight issue upgrading to Lenny. When I did the dist-upgrade, it seems to have broken access to the passwd file, the upgrade died, and I can't get anywhere.
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17:32<makomk>After the libc6 upgrade, I got (and keep getting): "dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `root' in statoverride file" and other stuff keeps erroring out. I'm using libc6-xen.
17:32<Akira24>Hello, I would like some help please. I have a system that is currently incapable of being connected to the net without additional hardware and I need to install libdirectfb-dev. I could use my flashdrive to drag every single depend file and libdirectdb-dev over to it and install them with dpkg but that would take with my typing skills.. So, on my main Debian etch machine that's connected to...
17:32<Akira24>...the net I'm wondering if I can use that make a package with libdirectfb-dev with every depend package with some sort of automatic process?
17:33<Akira24>*take forever with my typing skills
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17:38<daniiel>opinux usb drive ok?
17:38<oipunx>yeah it worked
17:38<daniiel>awesome
17:39<daniiel>you could reformat it as fat also
17:39<oipunx>why was fdisk making it only 239MB
17:39<Akira24>Guess I could simplify that. Can I merge all the depends of package into one package?
17:39<daniiel>i dunno the whole thing needed to be partitioned together
17:39<daniiel>something strange
17:39<daniiel>=P
17:40<oipunx>heh
17:40<oipunx>well thanks alot
17:40<daniiel>no problem, sorry i ran off making dinner
17:40<oipunx>heh
17:40<oipunx>wut u makin
17:41<daniiel>fruit salad detail
17:41<daniiel>=P
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17:41*oipunx hungry
17:42<LarsKL>hey. got a problem with my eee701. in Xorg all AltGr+something keys are somewhat broken. e.g. to get "[" i usually have to press AltGr+8, on the eee i have to press it twice quickly to get one. for other chars it's even worse, e.g. "|" is Fn+AltGr+Y but to get it I have to do AltGr+8 twice to get a [ and when I then quickly press Fn+AltGr+Y I can get a |. outside of X it works as expected, so does it in cat
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17:43<koko>hello
17:43<koko>hello
17:43<koko>23:17 < koko> have a question about splitting screen into 2 half both with tail <file1> <file2> where file2 should be egrepped but file1 not..how can i do this ?
17:43<koko>23:18 < koko> tail -n 16 text1 text2 |egrep "Dezember" | sed 's/./\nD/'
17:43<koko>23:19 < koko> but this applies to both text-files..only apply to text2..thanx
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17:44<Ex-Cyber>Akira24: see the --print-uris option in apt-get manpage... you can redirect that to a file on the connectionless machine and then take it to a networked one and use wget or something
17:44<koko>!help
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17:53<koko>nobody can help ?
17:53<koko>have a question about splitting screen into 2 half both with tail <file1> <file2> where file2 should be egrepped but file1 not..how can i do this ?
17:54<koko>tail -n 16 text1 text2 |egrep "Dezember" | sed 's/./\nD/'
17:54<koko>but this applies to both text-files..only apply to text2..thanx
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18:06<DONATO>OLÁ
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18:07<tkoski>koko: tail -n 16 text1; tail -n 16 text2 |egrep "Dezember" | sed 's/./\nD/'
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18:08<tkoski>hmmm, maybe i did not get it what you wanted :D
18:08<tkoski>sorry for the noise
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18:13<makomk>Never mind. DeadRat decided it would be fun to add a third-party patch to their kernel that broke binary compatibility.
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18:48<Ichiban>Hey there, perhaps someone can help me with this issue that I've just discovered: wineserver is taking up between 80-100% of my CPU and about 500mb of memory after running IE6. Even after closing IE6 and IEXPLORER, wineserver hangs onto these resources. killall wineserver does nothing. Only a reboot solves this issue.
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18:52<h2-gw>have you tried ies4linux
18:52<h2-gw>that's an excellent installer
18:53<h2-gw>are you using 32 or 64 bit?
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18:56<Ichiban>Yeah, I am using ies4linux and I am running 64bit
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19:03<Ichiban>Nobody? Well, I'm going to restart my system to free those resources, then.
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19:05<Sadistt0>where i can find a database what used in dpkg bot ?
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19:10<Ichiban>Resources are now freed due system reboot, but my problem is not resolved: running ie6 results in wineserver sucking up ~90% CPU and ~550mb and not relinquishing those resources, even after "killall wineserver".
19:11<Ichiban>Anyone have any ideas?
19:11<Ichiban>due to system reboot*
19:11<Sadistt0>don't use windows software ? :)
19:11<Sadistt0>on different system
19:12<Ichiban>I wish I could get around that, believe me, but for a course I'm taking I need to run a web applet which for some reason won't run under ice weasel. It tells me that my browser is unsupported and that's the end of it; however, it works under ie6.
19:13<upsilon>tried ietab?
19:13<Ichiban>ietab? I don't know what that is.
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19:13<Sadistt0>plugin
19:13<Sadistt0>for firefox
19:13<Elbrus>Sadistt0: I think you need to be able to run IE plain.
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19:13<Sadistt0>i don't need to :)
19:14<Elbrus>Sadistt0: you run that on Linux? Good to know, I didn't even try :)
19:14<Sadistt0>not really ;)
19:14<Sadistt0>i have a 3 pc's for that :)
19:14<upsilon>oh sorry, not on linux :(
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19:15<Sadistt0>2 with linux and 1 for m$ stuff
19:15<Ichiban>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 "IE Tab is not available on linux"
19:15<Ichiban>I wish I had another box with me that I could run m$ programs on, but I don't
19:16<Sadistt0>try ie4linux
19:16<Ichiban>already have it
19:16<Ichiban>that's what I was running
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19:17<Sadistt0>try to install pure wine & ie inside
19:18<Ichiban>care to elaborate on that process?
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19:19<Sadistt0>u can try vmware/virtualbox.... and install the whole system on virtual environment
19:20<Ichiban>Yeah, I was thinking about that. Unfortunately, I don't have any windows installation CDs with me.
19:21<Sadistt0>torrent sites ? :)
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19:22<Ichiban>Good call. I think I actually have the key here, so I could do that. Is there any chance of my system becoming compromised by doing that, though? I've heard some stories about torrented windows versions.
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19:22<Sadistt0>it depends :)
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19:23<Ichiban>Yeah, I'm not really sure it's worth it, then. =/
19:24<Ichiban>freaking discriminatory web applet >:(
19:24<Sadistt0>true :)
19:25<Sadistt0>macos is the same sh....t :)
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19:26<Sadistt0>off... 02:26....
19:26<Ichiban>Oh wait, for some reason it works under epiphany. Problem solved.
19:26<Ichiban>xD
19:26*Sadistt0 going to sleep
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19:31<Ichiban>Oh man, and the number pad works in the applet when I run it under epiphany, too! I'm so stupid, I should have just checked this sooner. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.
19:33<EmleyMoor>How well will the HP Pavilion dv6920ea work with Debian?
19:34<amphi>!laptop
19:34<dpkg>All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <laptop mode>.
19:36<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... unlisted - well, never mind...
19:40<JRHartley>maybe i should change my nick to fylingdales
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19:54<koko>hello
19:55<koko>tail <file1> <file2> where file2 should be egrepped but file1 not..how can i do this ?
19:55<koko>but this applies to both text-files..only apply to text2..thanx
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20:01<todoesverso>Hi does anyone know if there is a package to translate ascii to braille? any clue?
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20:02<zeta>any idea which library is -lXi?
20:02<qq->!!
20:02<dpkg>I'm not your csh prompt!
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20:09<Ex-Cyber>zeta_: I'm not sure I understand the question
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20:10<Ex-Cyber>the library linked by -lXi is called "Xi" (or "libXi"); there's not some kind of alias system involved there
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20:28<stevecotton>todoesverso: sounds like you need a font, not a translator
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20:29<todoesverso>stevecotton: may be, im not sure. Im developing a braille printer , all open source
20:30<todoesverso>I did my own ascii to braille translator, but i wanted to find othe to caompare
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20:35<qq->todoesverso: google give http://www.mathsisfun.com/braille-translation.html
20:37<todoesverso>qq-: thanks, but im actually looking for source code =)
20:38<qq->oh, ok
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20:38<JRHartley>device drivers for braille output devices may well have a few ideas
20:39<todoesverso>i was looking into brltty, it actually gave me a couple of ideas
20:42<qq-> apt-cache show speakup-source
20:44<todoesverso>http://www.fbraille.com.uy/alfabeto/alfabeto-online.htm <----Nice open sourced =D
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21:05<ralphte>Hi every one what is the best book out there to learn how to use debian 4
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21:09<GoinEasy9>ralphte: http://www.debian.org/doc/
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21:23<kingsley>When you look at http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/episodes/, can you pick an episode of NBC's Tonight Show to watch, or do you just see NBC's peacock?
21:24*kingsley suspect's a bug in flash, or NBC's web site.
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21:50<daniiel>kingsley: i have flashplayer installed, and it tells me to install it to watch the videos
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22:02<karlN1>anyone can recommend a debian shell webhost, for setting up an ecommerce cart there too?
22:02<karlN1>feel free to msg me, if so. thanks.
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22:27<bleck>anyone have a deb of googleearth? the make program isn't working for me.. (i386)
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22:38<jlj>so for some reason firefox has started to use 100% CPU load constantly, and the process doesn't go away when I try to close it. It remains active although the window is gone until I kill it. I'm a bit creeped out at this. Has anyone experienced anything similar?
22:38<bleck>jlj: check if its flash
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22:38<qq->kingsley: works here on iceweasel and epiphany
22:40<jlj>bleck: Can I uninstall Flash without removing Firefox?
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22:42<bleck>jlj: not sure, maybe check in plugins
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22:46<qq->jlj: try killall -e firefox-bin
22:46<qq->and restart iceweasel
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22:49<NeonPqd>OLA
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22:50<NeonPqd>preciso de ajuda para instalar um servidor de dados
22:50<qq->!es
22:50<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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22:50<Resemp>any one here know their way around the awk or cut command?
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22:52<Resemp>no one?
22:52<jlj>qq-: Yeah, I did several times, but every time i restart it'll soon be the same again. I even tried reinstalling ff.
22:53<qq->better restarta a new one (not the previous sessions)
22:54<jlj>I'll leave it at about:blank and see if anything happens.
22:54<jlj>qq-: Yeah, did that too. It's wierd
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22:54<Lenhix>Good evening
22:55<qq-> Good morning , here
22:55<zoe>hey everyone, I'm in need of advice, troubleshooting an apache 1.3.26 install. Anyone free?
22:56<Lenhix>How can I connect from windows to the X server? I left my work pc running (as always) and I want to work on the VMware but the port isn't open
22:56<zoe>apache seems to run ok, error logs turn up nothing interesting, but actual page will not load internal or external to network.
22:56<qq-> apache 1.3.26 is old
22:57<jlj>Fuck, it still acted up. This can't be right.
22:57<Lenhix>Edit httpd.conf (or equivalent) and set ErrorLevel to the max (the more messages you can get) and see if Apache says something
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22:58<zoe>thanks Lenhix, doing now. . . .
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22:59<zoe>http would show errors on the web page, right? I don't even get a blank page to load, just address not found
23:00<jlj>By the way, does anyone know if the new stable is due to be released soon?
23:00<zoe>also, on FreeBSD if it helps, is there a way to increase the warnings/errors I can see from logs/command line ?
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23:01<Lenhix>Are you loading a PHP/Ruby/etc page?
23:01<Lenhix>Perhaps it's an error in the script... I've experienced blank pages when I have errors in the PHP code
23:02<zoe>we are, I know the page you describe
23:02<chealer>dpkg: wwlr
23:02<dpkg>Lenny(5.0) will release WIR; SIYH, hopefully in the second half of 2008. Ask me about <lenny pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/07/msg00005.html or lenny will not release until there are no more release critical bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical and see "Number concerning the next release:", or <lenny status>
23:02<zoe>but I dont' think it's PHP issue, even loading a just created test.htm fails
23:02<chealer>Resemp: just ask your question
23:03*egns pira a dormir, que tengan una buena noche/have a nice nite
23:03<zoe>i set LogLevel to debug (that seems to be highest option?) to see what I can find out
23:03<zoe>^ in httpd.conf
23:04<Resemp>never mind i found what i was looking for, wasnt cut or awk was looking for the head command to cut characters off of file names
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23:04<qq->zoe: try lighttpd , to test your page
23:05<zoe>i'm unfamiliar with lighttpd, is it a php / html syntax check ?
23:05<zoe>cuz i can reasonably assure those are OK
23:06<qq->just install it , and put your page in /var/www/
23:06<qq->than http://127.0.0.1/
23:06<zoe>ok, for "your page" is some test html hello world ok to use
23:07<qq->maybe any .html file
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23:08<Lenhix>zoe: remember to reload apache after modifying httpd.conf
23:08<Lenhix>init.d/apache reload should suffice
23:08<jlj>Ok, so I started FF from a fresh user account and it seems to run properly. Guess my config just has gotten miffed some way.
23:08<zoe>OK, and we seem to have DocumentRoot in httpd set to a different place,
23:08<Lenhix>lighttpd is another web server, zoe
23:08<zoe>but use DocumentRoot, for var/www, right?
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23:13<zoe>is LogLevel debug the most verbose level ?
23:13<Lenhix>I guess it is
23:13<Lenhix>Let me check Apache's web
23:14<Lenhix>:O I didn't know Facebook was a mirror for Apache HTTPd
23:14<Lenhix>And yes, debug is the most verbose level
23:15<zoe>thanks
23:15<zoe>only get one message with it, a notice about a mutex accepted
23:16<zoe>am still working on installing lighttpd, everything I can see in apache looks ok :\
23:16<zoe>(and html is so simple it can't have an error)
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23:24<zoe>ok, with lighttpd installed, i added directory www to var, and a test html file
23:25<Lenhix>And..?
23:25<zoe>from another pc on network, http://SERVERS IP brought up network timeout
23:25<zoe>from the server, i tried get and command not found
23:25<Lenhix>Is port 80 open on your machine?
23:25<Lenhix>Are you behind some firewall or router?
23:25<zoe>i only know linux, what's the equivalent of get
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23:25<qq->than http://127.0.0.1/
23:26<qq->from server
23:26<zoe>again, command not found
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23:26<qq->which command
23:26<qq->?
23:26<zoe>command: http://127.0.0.1
23:27<qq->open a browser
23:27<zoe>server doesn't have x, or any window manager installed
23:27<zoe>only command line, is there a way via command line?
23:27<Lenhix>Try installing elinks (a console web browser) and execute elinks 127.0.0.1
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23:31<zoe>still trying to install elinks
23:32<zoe>but am i understanding correctly, sockstat -4 shoudl show me ALL open ip4 prots?
23:32<zoe>cuz 80 is not on that list, big red flag, right?
23:33<qq->cat /etc/services |grep www
23:33<qq->www 80/tcp http # WorldWideWeb HTTP
23:34<zoe>appears there, tcp and also a second line, udp
23:35<qq->so ok
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23:37<Lenhix>zoe: are you using debian actually?
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23:37<zoe>I am on the pc I'm at
23:37<zoe>ssh'd into freeBSD
23:37<zoe>elinks is downloading now, btw
23:37<qq->how long
23:38<Lenhix>Definitely
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23:41<zoe>i find something strange
23:41<zoe>elinks appeared to install ok
23:41<zoe>"tab" key will complete the word elinks
23:42<zoe>but Command not found, when executing it ?
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23:44<zoe>ok, but ./elinks from correct directory works
23:44<zoe>result is connection refused though
23:44<zoe>nto sure what to make of that, may have installed / configured lighttpd wrong ?
23:45<qq->which command ?
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23:47<zoe>command elinks
23:47<zoe>runs now ok,,, but connection refused for http://127.0.0.1
23:47<qq->that's all ?
23:47<zoe>whether apache OR lighttpd is running
23:47<zoe>yeah that's all
23:47<Lenhix>So, port 80 isn't open... it seemes
23:47<Lenhix>Stop both apache and lighttpd
23:48<zoe>both stopped
23:48<Lenhix>Check with sudo netstat -ntlp that port 80 isn't open
23:48<Lenhix>Check with htop (or equivalent, maybe ps ax | grep apache or grep httpd) that the apache and lighttpd processes are actually down
23:49<Lenhix>If not, send SIGTERM.. in case they refuse to close, SIGKILL (which I don't like, althoug is sometimes necessary)
23:49<zoe>response ito netstat -ntlp 80 is unknown or uninstrumented protocal
23:49<zoe>ps i am familar with
23:49<zoe>doesn't say apache at all, even when I believe it is running
23:50<zoe>there is this entry in ps,
23:50<zoe>/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld
23:51<zoe>we were runnign mysql, could it be a problem (apache shoudl be stopped)
23:52<zoe>looks OK though, httpd shows up in ps list when i expect it
23:52<zoe>gone when I stop apache
23:53<zoe>am raedin netstat man page,,,think i was using it wrong
23:53<zoe>*reading
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23:59<zoe>port 80 doesn't appear under "netstat -na | grep LISTEN"
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