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---Logopened Wed Sep 24 00:00:15 2008
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00:45<john_>hi
00:45<john_>i have some doubt in wget command
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00:47<john_> wget --post-data="username=admin&password=rL4y&to=+919884761625&text=Hello" http://192.168.31.55:13013/cgi-bin/sendsms
00:47<john_>i have used like this i am getting error as bad request
00:47<john_>whats the problem
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00:49<tony>Hi, could anybody possibly help me out with getting fglrx installed
00:49<dmoerner>!fglrx one-liner
00:49<dpkg>To install fglrx, first make sure you have <contrib> and <non-free sources> in your sources.list. Then: aptitude install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
00:49<dmoerner>tony: what isn't working for you
00:49<NickPresta>john_, one problem would be that you just posted your user credentials to a channel with 289 people in it.
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00:50<tony>Well, apitude is saying that it cannot find fglrx-driver, control, etc... But I'm fairly certain I have the sources added
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00:50<dmoerner>tony: you have non-free and contrib? pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
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00:54<tony>dmoerner, how do I add non free?
00:54<tony>deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
00:54<tony>and deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
00:54<tony>along with the cd's are what I have
00:54<dmoerner>that's just updates. give me a second and I will give you a sample
00:55<blarson>tony: add non-free after contrib to the lines.
00:55<tony>blarson so: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free ?
00:55<dmoerner>tony: http://paste.debian.net/17859/
00:56<dmoerner>you need both security.debian.org and ftp.debian.org lines
00:56<tony>ah
00:56<Tommy>Hello
00:56<Tommy>hi
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00:58<loke-_>I am trying to apt-get a program from lenny and i am running etch but I get errors when i do apt-get update
00:59<loke-_>i added a deb statement to my apt source.list
00:59<blarson>john_: You probably want wget --user=user --password=password "http://192.168.31.55:13013/cgi-bin/sendsms&to=+919884761625&text=Hello"
01:00<blarson>john_: where you substitute your real user and password.
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01:12<john_>blarson in the username and password of post-data string
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01:17<john_>blarson : I tried like that it is showing 404 not found
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01:26<blarson>john_: that was just a guess. I don't know your web site. (nor have I ever used post data in wget)
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01:33<john_>blarson : I am able to send through browser , but with wget only i am getting problem
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02:03<averna>Hello I'm running Debian and I'm trying to load a java browser based program but the applet won't load on Ice Weasel or Epiphany. I have java common and java package installed, Is there something more I might need?
02:05<jm_>you need jre plugin package
02:06<jm_>and you need to enable java in the preferences
02:06<averna>ah? OK, I'll try that.
02:06<averna>thanks
02:06<jm_>(java plugin, not jre plugin)
02:06<blarson>And java tends to be non-portable crap, so may require a specific java like sun's.
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02:08<blarson>(Ok, I may be exagerating a bit, but for a language that claims it should be portable it isn't.)
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02:14<averna>jm_, I have jave-gcj-compat-plugin and I have prefs enabled in both browsers but no go
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02:15<Nemoder>what version of debian?
02:15<jm_>averna: does about:plugins show java?
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02:16<averna>um, not sure what version, it's was pretty new a year and a half ago. Don't know how to get to about:plugins
02:16<jm_>type "about:plugins<enter>" in location bar
02:16<averna>Oh, found plugins
02:17<averna>there about 20 things in there, they all say yes
02:18<averna>must be the gcj pkg
02:18<Nemoder>gcj in etch is not very reliable for applets, I would try the non-free java plugin
02:19<averna>ah, can I get it throught the synaptic pkg mgr
02:19<Nemoder>sun-java5-plugin
02:19<averna>ah thank
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02:21<averna>It doesn't come up but I don't have all the repositories checked....can I add repositories to synaptic?
02:22<jm_>you have my permission
02:23<averna>lol
02:23<jm_>!tell averna -about non-free
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02:25<averna>I'm installing it now. Hope the Sun police don't come knocking.
02:26<Nemoder>they distribute it free of cost, it's just doesn't comply with debian rules for free software
02:26<averna>ok
02:26<Nemoder>thankfully that has changed in Lenny
02:26<Nemoder>or has started to anyway
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02:27<jm_>yeah it's still in non-free for now
02:27<averna>hmm, it wants a disc...wonder if I have that.
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02:31<Nemoder>you can disable the cdrom in your sources and just use the debian servers
02:31<averna>I apparentely don't have some i-386 snapshot
02:31<averna>oh
02:31<averna>k...how do I do that?
02:32<Nemoder>averna: if you use synaptic go to settings->repositories
02:32<Nemoder>and uncheck anything that says cdrom
02:33<enouf>!sources.list
02:33<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
02:33<averna>ok, got it, thanks
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02:39<averna>ok, I'm using synaptic - don't know about running aptitude update...you mean in apt?
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02:43<Nemoder>synaptic does the update for you
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02:45<averna>it shows installed but there was an error.
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02:45<averna>I may need to play with this later.
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02:46<averna>It's late and I'm beat.
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02:46<averna>Thank you all. I'll be back.
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02:56<Zoup>is there anyway to to make dpkg --configure -a to answer yes or no to all questions ?
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04:15<jbij211>wow
04:15<jbij211>strange IRC client
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04:53<panagos>hello, i wanted to try the btrfs modules, so i installed btrfs-modules-2.6.26-1-amd64 and btrfs-tools, inserted the btrfs module, created a test partition on a loop device, but mount -tbtrfs can't mount that partition! what could be the problem?
04:53<john_>hi petemc
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05:10<panagos>hello, i wanted to try the btrfs modules, so i installed btrfs-modules-2.6.26-1-amd64 and btrfs-tools, inserted the btrfs module, created a test partition on a loop device, but mount -tbtrfs can't mount that partition! what could be the problem?
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05:16<tzafrir_laptop>panagos, grep btr /proc/filesystems
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05:19<panagos>tzafrir_laptop: yes, it shows up
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05:20<tzafrir_laptop>Any error in /var/log/kern.log ?
05:21<tzafrir_laptop>What error do you get from mount?
05:21<tzafrir_laptop>What command did you use to create the file system?
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05:30<panagos>heck, seems the latest version from the btrfs repo works :)
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06:15<blarson>What do you recomend for X screen capture?
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06:18<jm_>!screenshot
06:18<dpkg>from memory, screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd, or push your "PrtScr" keyboard key in gnome, or kde, or or gnome-panel-screenshot
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06:25<buffoon_work>hi! on a client i have problems with clamav-daemon (which is why mails are getting problems). The pidfile (/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl) is missing but in the configuration files it is the right option for that pid file and clamav is started...
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06:25<buffoon_work>any suggestions?
06:25<buffoon_work>clamav is the latest verstion from volatile
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06:35<buffoon_work>oh i'm sorry, s/pid/localsocket/
06:36<jm_>netstat will tell you if it's listening
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06:42<buffoon_work>no, isn't listening, clamav.log doesn't say anything (LogVerbose changed to true)
06:44<jm_>how did you verify?
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06:47<risro_>hi, has anyone tried debianEeePc on eeepc 901?
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06:52<buffoon_work>jm_, netstat -l
06:53<jm_>buffoon_work: netstat -nap|grep clam
06:54<buffoon_work>jm_, doesn't output anything
06:55<jm_>buffoon_work: does it attempt to if you strace it?
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06:59<buffoon_work>should I do strace clamd?
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06:59<enouf>buffoon_work: as to your otig question, is /var mounted 'ro'? how about, is the daemon/app brought up prior to /var being mounted?
06:59<enouf>s/otig/original
07:00<enouf>(or even /var/run .. or whatever)
07:00<enouf>i recall the nubuntus haveing varrun mounts and crap
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07:00<buffoon_work>enouf, /var (output from "mount") is mounted rw, the daemon is brought up after /var is being mounted
07:01<enouf>oh well - worth a shot :-p
07:01<buffoon_work>yep, better ask stupid questions that not seeing stupid things =)
07:01<buffoon_work>s/that/than
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07:04<jm_>buffoon_work: best to stop it, then strace initscript with -f
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07:04<buffoon_work>jm_, like "strace -f /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon start"?
07:05<jm_>buffoon_work: yeah
07:05<jm_>add -o str.txt
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07:14<ohay>I have 4.0r0 installed and just got a 4.0r4a CD, can I upgrade the system with this CD?
07:14<ohay>considering my internet connection is not so fast
07:14<jm_>sure
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07:15<ohay>should I enter the expert install process?
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07:15<jm_>no, you don't want to reinstall
07:15<jm_>simply upgrade it
07:16<buffoon_work>ohay, read the cds with apt-cdrom and then do an upgrade
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07:17<buffoon_work>jm_, seems that clamav takes long to read all the signatures...
07:17<ohay>oh, so the CD will appear in the sources.list ?
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07:17<buffoon_work>but i guess also that strace does take a lot of performance...
07:17<buffoon_work>ohay, exactly
07:18<ohay>ok then, thanks
07:18<buffoon_work>np
07:18<jm_>buffoon_work: yeah it does
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07:20<ohay>just one other thing, I installed on another system 4.0r4a using the KDE-CD and there's something strange happening
07:21<ohay>the systems boots into kdm for the login, I get into KDE and all works fine, but when I logoff on KDE, KDM doesn't work any more
07:22<ohay>and it goes to console mode
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07:23<ben_>help
07:23<ben_>help?
07:23<jm_>ohay: check its log and X log when that happens
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07:24<ohay>if I log in via console and start kde from the command line, the settings are different than when I logged from kdm with the same user
07:24<jm_>you should also ask in #debian-kde
07:24<ohay>by settings I mean general appearance
07:24<ohay>ok, I'll try there
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07:57<prathibha>I downloaded tar.gz from debian site. It is not having debian folder. How to create debian folder
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07:58<prathibha>I downloaded tar.gz from debian site. It is not having debian folder. How to create debian folder
07:58<themill>!repeat
07:58<dpkg>Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org
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07:59<themill>prathibha: debian/ should be in the diff.gz not in the tarball.
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08:01<prathibha>themill, How to include it in the package for building.
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08:02<themill>prathibha: you're better off using "apt-get source packagename" to download the whole lot and apply the diff or use dget with the dsc file (that is also in the same place). dget is in the devscripts package.
08:02<themill>(err. dget with the URL of the dsc file)
08:02<spectral>guys. is it worth to download debian 64bit? i heard that's not any software which runs on 64bit...
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08:05<jm_>spectral: huh? everything in amd64 port runs on 64bit
08:05<Tengu>spectral: opensourced programs should run fine. things like flash and other sh*t like that can't run on full-64b system
08:05<themill>except for non-free stuff like flash
08:06<spectral>yea. exactly what i meant
08:06<Tengu>but you can use nspluginwrapper
08:06<spectral>so stuff like flash, no way?
08:06<Tengu>through nspluginwrapper, it's possible. ugly, but it works.
08:06<Tengu>as flash _is_ ugly, it's not really a problem -.-
08:07<spectral>rofl
08:07<Tengu>gesundheit.
08:08<spectral>reading documents and programming is fine?
08:08<spectral>or there are lot of stuff that doesn't run?
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08:08<Tengu>spectral: openoffice runs, xpdf too, vim also
08:09<Tengu>all what you need in fact ;)
08:09<spectral>Tengu: yea :)
08:09<Tengu>mplayer runs fine too.
08:09<Tengu>amarok, rhythmbox... well, if we put aside non-free ugly stuff, there are no problem with 64b
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08:10<spectral>got it
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08:10<spectral>i'll get then :D
08:11<spectral>softwares like opera (browser) and some GUI for programming runs fine also?
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08:13<spectral>"<Tengu>: ...if we put aside non-free ugly stuff, there are no problem with 64b" oh it answered my last question. alright then. thank you guys :)
08:13<testing_>hi, ia do have an question for lastfm, any users for this here?
08:13<spectral>gonna download debian 64b, cya
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08:21<Tuplad>Is there a builtin or a tool in dpkg to fix mp3s ? amaroK wont show the track lenghts for a couple of tracks ;(
08:22<Tengu>Tuplad: maybe tools in "lame" package ?
08:22<Tuplad>Tengu: there are :o ?
08:22<Tuplad>Tengu: gonna check that out
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08:24<Tengu>Tuplad: well.. I guess. I don't use mp3, but flac :_>
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08:24<if>hello
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08:25<Tengu>Tuplad: but I guess package such as toolame will be fine for you.
08:26<if>Is anybody here?
08:27<Tuplad>Tengu: roger that;) thanks
08:27<if>exit
08:27<if>quit
08:27<if>quite
08:27<if>exit
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08:27<MadHag>anyone got a server here with leaseweb?
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08:30<Tuplad>I've got an other question
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08:31<Tuplad>I once installed Adobe AIR, but it uses .zip files for widgets by default, I then removed Adobe AIR but ZIP files are still attached to it, how do I let them open with file roller again ?
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08:34<Tengu>Tuplad: something to see with mime-type maybe ?
08:34<Tengu>or associated program. it's anyway a config in your window manager [gnom/kde/other]
08:35<Tuplad>Tengu: aha
08:35<Tuplad>Tengu: you got any suggestions ? I dont even know where to start or what to look for
08:35<Tengu>hm.... I'm not used with window manager... I use fluxbox or awesome, and no file manager :S
08:35<Tengu>all through terminal :->
08:36<Tengu>easier, faster, nicer
08:36<Tengu>;)
08:36<jm_>what do you do to have air handle it?
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08:36<Tuplad>jm_: air automatically handles zip files :x
08:37<Tengu>-.-
08:37<jm_>Tuplad: yes but where? in file manager or what?
08:37<Tuplad>jm_: yes, I use gnome
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08:37<Tengu>use non-free softwares....
08:37<jm_>Tuplad: tried right clicking?
08:37<Tuplad>jm_: yes
08:37<Tuplad>jm_: and selecting file roller, didn't help
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08:37<Tuplad>jm_: still opens with adobe air
08:37<Tuplad>jm_: like, it doesnt open with adobe air because it's not installed
08:37<Tuplad>jm_: but it's associated with it and says it cant open the file
08:37<jm_>Tuplad: do you have ~/.mailcap?
08:38<Tuplad>nope
08:39<jm_>I would have hoped right clicking would allow one to set it - perhaps check control center
08:40<Tuplad>jm_: nothing in control center
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09:36<scott>anyone using svn on etch?
09:36<scott>svn: error while loading shared libraries: Šö’}í¢{
09:36<scott>˜øÂù@ó"üÿGæþ`: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
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10:13<dpkg>* Guerin -> skool | <abrotman> where Guerin learns to control his irc client :) | <Guerin> amphi: i can control my irc client!!!1
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10:43<SeLEct>hello everybody,
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10:43<SeLEct>Im having some problems with installing mysql via apt-get install
10:43<SeLEct>anyone that can be of assistance?
10:46<Torsten_W>what's the problem?
10:47<SeLEct>problem started when i forgot the root password for the mysql, so i tryed to stop the service but debian couldnt stop it. Mysql gave some error that "debian" dosnt have the priviliges to do so.
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10:48<SeLEct>So i killed it with -9 and uninstalled, and when i reinstalled it, it still had the same root password that i don't know. so i unstalled it again. and now i cant install it again
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10:48<SeLEct>may i paste the error message here+
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10:49<kapil>!tell SeLEct about pastebin
10:50<SeLEct>http://rafb.net/p/8rswXQ57.html
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10:52<kapil>SeLEct: usually /etc/mysql/my.cnf contains the admin password for the mysql database.
10:53<SeLEct>well mysql is running now
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10:53<SeLEct>but i cant login
10:53<SeLEct>it wants a password i dont have
10:53<SeLEct>but still i don't know why it gave me that error
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10:54<kapil>as far as re-installing mysql is concerned, this does not re-initialise the databases (usually).
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10:54<SeLEct>in /etc/mysql there is only 2 files. debian.cnf and conf.d
10:54<SeLEct>or folders
10:54<kapil>if you have valuable data in those data bases then i don't really know any way you can extract it!
10:55<SeLEct>i don't really care if the databases gets lost
10:55<SeLEct>i just want to be able to login, so i can create some databases
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10:56<SeLEct>and i can never restart or stop mysql with mysql stop or something. it always says "debian-sys-maint" don'nt have access
10:56<kapil>in that case you should purge mysql, delete the data bases and install mysql a second time.
10:57<SeLEct>kapil how do i do all that stuff?
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10:58<kapil>i don't have mysql info handy. maybe someelse here remembers the precise packages and the locations of the databases.
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10:58<SeLEct>well i hope so :)
10:58<mmp>Hello; I'm trying to use useradd/userdel to manage users in LDAP database, it seems to still modify the local /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow databases, not depending on what I chose in /etc/nsswitch.conf; any idea what could be wrong?
10:58<kapil>or perhaps there is information in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server which explains how the databases can be re-initialised.
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10:59<SeLEct>kapil but no one seems to know :D
10:59<mmp>getent passwd returns proper information and from debug info it is apparent, that useradd/userdel successfully authenticate as ldap admins...
11:00<kapil>SeLEct: wait a minute ...
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11:01<kapil>SeLEct: have a look at /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian and see if the second paragraph helps.
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11:02<SeLEct>kapil i don't have that one
11:02<SeLEct>i only have the changelog one
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11:04<kapil>SeLEct: you do not have a mysql-server installed?
11:04<SeLEct>i do kapil
11:04<SeLEct>its so messed up
11:04<SeLEct>dunno why
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11:06<kapil>if you just want to purge the server you should run "apt-get --purge remove mysql-server".
11:07<kapil>the actual databases are stored in /var/lib/mysql
11:07<seanius>and mysql-server-5.0
11:07<SeLEct>yeah
11:07<SeLEct>i see the databases
11:07<SeLEct>they are all there
11:07<seanius>possibly mysql-common as well
11:07<SeLEct>ok im trying now then?
11:07<SeLEct>to purge it.
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11:08<SeLEct>ok
11:08<SeLEct>they are all gone now
11:08<SeLEct>try to apt-get install it again?
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11:09<Jeps>is anyone here got working custom php install/compile script with freetds module for shared debian host? :p
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11:09<seanius>not yet. now you should send the output "dpkg -l '*mysql*'" to the pastebin
11:09<seanius>just to make sure we're all on the same page
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11:10<seanius>and then you should rm -rf /var/lib/mysql, assuming that you're okay with completely removing all mysql data
11:10<kapil>also the output of "ls /etc/mysql" just to be on the safe side
11:10<Jeps>or maybe cheap freelance install coder for hire here? :p
11:11<seanius>might as well rm -rf /etc/mysql, though purging the packages should have taken care of those files
11:11<seanius>again assuming that you are totally okay with starting from scratch
11:12<Jeps>please help lol xD
11:12<SeLEct>im using a swedish version of debian so i tanslated the first line
11:13<SeLEct>http://rafb.net/p/DVHdU655.html
11:13<SeLEct>thats the output of dpkg
11:13*seanius pratar svenska, men inte så bra
11:13<SeLEct>ahhaa ok seanius :D
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11:13<SeLEct>and the "rm -rf /var/lib/mysql" is done to now
11:13<SeLEct>and no /etc/mysql doues exist
11:14<seanius>okay, now if you install mysql-server, you should be starting from scratch
11:14<SeLEct>lets try? :D
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11:15<seanius>go for it
11:15<Jeps>hum ...
11:15<SeLEct>atleast no errors this time
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11:16<SeLEct>seanius and kapil i love u guys, you are worth all the love in the world :D
11:16<seanius>\o/
11:16<Jeps><== really need proper help from any linux wizards here
11:16<SeLEct>Now im gonna try to install phpmyadmin. I had some problems with it before, cuzz it didint set it self in /var/www for some reason before.
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11:18<Jeps>anyone ever install/compiling php5 with freetds module?
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11:22<Guest1390>hello
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11:23<SeLEct>I got some problems with phpmyadmin, i installed it but it just won't put itself in /var/www/phpmyadmin so i can't access it via web
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11:27<SeLEct>it seems to put it self to "/usr/share/phpmyadmin#"
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11:28<Gathond>SeLEct: it does not have to, iirc it sets up a directory mapping in apache
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11:29<SeLEct>so Gathond how can i fix this? cuzz i cant access it via localip/phpmyadmin
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11:29<Gathond>try localhost/phpmyadmin instead
11:30<SeLEct>cant m8, cuzz my server is totaly cli. and im trying to access it via an other computer
11:30<SeLEct>and all i get it "it dosnt exist" bla bla
11:30<Gathond>I'm pretty sure the default configuration ONLY allows acces through localhost or from localhost
11:31<Gathond>as a security precaution
11:31<Gathond>SeLEct: try using links on that machine then
11:32<Gathond>alternatively use dpkg -L to finds its apache.conf and check it
11:33<SeLEct>Gathond dosnt work with links either when i type localhost/phpmyadmin as address
11:33<Gathond>It's been years since I last used mysql though
11:34<Gathond>it should include a apache.conf though
11:34<SeLEct>it says the requested url doues not exists in this server :D
11:34<SeLEct>found its config Gathond it says that it should be placed in /var/www/phpmyadmin but it isint there
11:34<SeLEct>the conf name is apache.conf
11:35<Gathond>which should be included in apache's config automatically, and which should allow only localhost
11:35<Gathond>SeLEct: then they have badly broken it, usually it contained something like: Alias /phppgadmin /usr/share/phppgadmin/ (this is from phppgadmin as it stands, but the principle is the same)
11:36<SeLEct>Gathond maybe try to manuelly install it and not apt-get do u think that could work?
11:37<Gathond>apt-get should work, although it will by default be limited to only localhost
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11:37<Gathond>what does dpkg -L |grep conf return? (in some pastebin sige preferably)
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11:39<stew>SeLEct: /usr/share/phpmyadmin is the correct location for phpmyadin in debian. /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian should tell you how to set it up
11:39<SeLEct>stew ok thank u
11:39<SeLEct>and thank u to Gathond
11:39<SeLEct>gonna check that out
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11:48<SeLEct>stew still noting
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11:58<variable>who uses zsh?
11:58<Jeps>can anyone here be able to install/compile php5 with freetds module?
11:58<variable>i cannot set environment variable
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12:01<SeLEct>got it fixed just created a sym link
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12:04<Pony>which library has a crc32 funktion?
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12:09<Jeps>any installation scripter available for hire?
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12:11<kets>hi, i have a question. I'm trying to guess where is the file that contains all the information of the icons in gnome/nautilus i mean, the position of all the icons that appears on my Desktop folder... any help?
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12:16<kapil>kets: do the following. "touch /tmp/find_nauty_icons", then move one of the icons, then run "find -newer /tmp/find_nauty_icons".
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12:17<kapil>this will give you the answer which is ~/.nautilus/metafiles/x-nautilius-desktop*.xml
12:18<Pony>zlib seems to be the answer
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12:20<torrr>is there an easy way to auto-restart a crushed clamd?\
12:20<ranix>torrr: you might have the freshclam update bug
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12:20<Lethalman>torrr, maybe /etc/init.d/clamd start
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12:21<torrr>Lethalman, that isn't automatic
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12:21<ranix>etch freshclam has some nasty problems
12:21<torrr>ranix, what do I do if I do? ( I have clamav-0.94.dfsg from volatile )
12:22<Lethalman>torrr, ah sorry
12:22<torrr>ranix, I get the problem when scanning clamav-0.94.dfsg/test/.split
12:22<torrr>Lethalman, np
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12:22<ranix>torrr: nope, not the same thing
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12:22<fxiny>ranix: again ? i tought it weas fixed
12:23<ranix>torrr: was 0.91 that had the problem iirc
12:23<fxiny>lemme check
12:23<fxiny>is ok . volatile works
12:23<torrr>I get
12:23<torrr>clamav-0.94.dfsg/test/.split/split.clam.tar.gzaa: OK
12:23<torrr>connect(): Connection refused
12:23<torrr>WARNING: Can't connect to clamd.
12:23<fxiny>daily.cld updated (version: 8321, sigs: 35412, f-level: 35, builder: guitar)
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12:24<ranix>torrr: maybe clamd is legitimately not starting on boot?
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12:24<fxiny>you using volatile version ? Installed: 0.94.dfsg-1~volatile1
12:24<torrr>when $ clamdscan clamav-0.94.dfsg/test/.split/*
12:24<ranix>0.94 is only available in volatile
12:24<ranix>lenny has 0.92 iirc
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12:25<torrr>ranix, clamd is starting at boot but it segfaults and die on that scan above
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12:25<torrr>ranix, and I need it to be online always
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12:25<ranix>torrr: I can see where you're coming from lol
12:26<fxiny>torrr: clamav version ?
12:26<fxiny>mine works
12:26<torrr>0.94
12:26<fxiny>volatile
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12:26<torrr>fxiny, version?
12:26<fxiny>0.94.dfsg-1~volatile1 works
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12:26<torrr>ah
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12:26<torrr>fxiny, did you scan test/.split
12:27<torrr>(because mine crush only on that)
12:27<fxiny>torrr: i noticed the same problem you are talkinh the 17 of auguts , they fixed
12:28<torrr>but I got this just two weeks ago
12:28<fxiny>torrr: 080817 borked hangs on split . 080820 fixed
12:28<ranix>torrr: bring it back for a refund
12:29<torrr>ranix, but it was free :/
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12:29<torrr>maybe I will try to get it again from volatile
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12:30<fxiny>volatile++
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12:34<SeLEct>guys i need these "php5-mysqli,php5-pear,php5-session," but cant find them in apt-get
12:35<torrr>do i need to aptitude before getting the new version?
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12:36<fxiny>torrr: addes volatile ?
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12:36<fxiny>added*
12:36<themill>SeLEct: in debian, they're called php5-mysql and php-pear. nfc what php5-session would be
12:36<torrr>fxiny, yes, long ago
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12:40<torrr>is there a way to 'rm -fR' without following soft links?
12:40<fxiny>torrr: check if clamav and freahclam are on hold : dist-upgrade ?
12:40<torrr>(i.e. delete only the link file, and not recursively go to linked subdirs)
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12:41<torrr>fxiny, what is dist-upgrade?
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12:42<fxiny>torrr: dist-upgrade is for installing packages on hold like clamav and freshclam
12:43<fxiny>you check if they are kept on hold
12:43<fxiny>should be
12:43<torrr>fxiny, on volatile they have the latest version
12:44<fxiny>yes
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12:45<fxiny>torrr: libclamav5 is new so it keeps clamav-base clamav-freshclam on hold
12:46<fxiny>torrr: doing a dist-upgrade you "swallow" the pill ;)
12:47<fxiny>and libclamav4 will be removed , a bit messy ...
12:48<SeLEct>"Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'DB.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/miningbuddy/functions/system/init.php on line 81" i get this.
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12:49<torrr>fxiny, I don't understand , according to synaptic I have libclamav5
12:49<themill>dpkg: tell SeLEct about search
12:49<torrr>though it marks it as upgradeable
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12:49<torrr>I'll try
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12:49<themill>SeLEct: use packages.debian.org to find the appropriate package that contains DB.php (or use apt-file)
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12:51<torrr>didnt help
12:51<fxiny>torrr: just open a term and run : aptitude update && aptitude -s upgrade , -s just simulate it
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12:53<johns>Any suggestions for how I might define a bluetooth keyboard to use a different keymap layout than the regular keyboard in xorg.conf?
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12:54<torrr>fxiny, there are zilons of stuff from that command
12:54<johns>Alternatively, I have grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll to switch between layouts, but I'd like to have that be alt and escape or alt and something else.. having trouble finding out where those key names are documented
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12:55<johns>alt_escape_toggle doesn't do it
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12:55<fxiny>torrr: seen ? you should use aptitude
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12:59<torrr>fxiny, I don't want to update these stuff
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13:00<torrr>fxiny, I made some kernel drivers
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13:00<torrr>fxiny, and moded gnome
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13:00<torrr>fxiny, If I upgrade these stuff it may overwrite that
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13:05<fxiny>torrr: put some packages on hold : aptitude hold <packagename>
13:05<fxiny>torrr: way back is : aptitude unhold <packagename>
13:05<torrr>ah
13:05<torrr>ok
13:05<torrr>now I need to recall their names ...
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13:06<torrr>libwnck-2.14.3
13:07<torrr>do I need the number in there too?
13:08<fxiny>nope
13:08<torrr>now I need to hold the kernel I think
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13:09<torrr>how do I know the hold work?
13:09<torrr>and does synaptic and others respect it?
13:10<fxiny>torrr: dunno , never used synaptic
13:10<torrr>how do you aptitude registered it?
13:11<torrr>is there a 'list packages on hold'?
13:11<fxiny>yes
13:11<torrr>?
13:11<fxiny>dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
13:11<dpkg>wish i knew, fxiny
13:11<fxiny>you !
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13:13<torrr>well my hold didn't wor
13:13<torrr>k
13:13<torrr>and there are 3 different suffixed libwnck there
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13:14<initiate>hello world
13:14<fxiny>righ . i confess : i am a big dselect fan , i use dselect for putting packages on hold to let apt-get know it
13:14<initiate>i need some help to set up X, nvidia card, already tried following the dpkg guide
13:15<fxiny>afaik , apt-get and aptitude are not communicating , i bet synaptic does the same
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13:16<diego__>hi, how can i get / set the default socket timeout ?
13:16<fxiny>but you can do things like : dpkg --get-selections | sed -e 's/hold$/install/' > yourpkgs.list
13:16<torrr>so how do I check aptitude registered the hold?
13:16<fxiny>just play with it
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13:17<fxiny>torrr: aptitude -s upgrade
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13:18<fxiny>torrr: you can put many packages on hold at the same time : aptitude hold a b c d
13:19<initiate>which nvidia driver should i select - nv or nvidia?
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13:19<variable>why i can't to change global_keybindings on one command in gconf-edit?
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13:20<Touns>hi
13:20<variable>it tells "This key is not writable"
13:20<variable>but i can change others
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13:26<blarson>initiate: nv if you care about software freedom, nvidia if you want good 3d performance. also depends somewhat on what card you are using.
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13:31<variable>where is the list of app which starts automaticly?
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13:31<variable>or how to set an app to start at boot?
13:32<torrr>what's the easiest way to add unrar to clamav
13:32<torrr>I have the source
13:33<simonrvn>install unrar
13:33<torrr>hum?
13:34<torrr>simonrvn, and then it will work?
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13:35<blarson>variable: /etc/rc?.d
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13:35<variable>oh right, thanks blarson
13:36<simonrvn>clamav will use anything it has available; i can't recll if you have to add anything to clamav.conf.
13:36<Valdoran>Shouldn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg allow configuration of the resolution, or am I just remembering this incorrectly?
13:37<fxiny>Valdoran: lenny ?
13:37<Valdoran>Jup
13:37<fxiny>it does not
13:37<fxiny>heheh
13:38<Valdoran>Then how do I configure the resolution, apart from manually editing xorg.conf?
13:38<variable>where can i read more about runlevels?
13:38<variable>!runlevels
13:38<dpkg>0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212, or ask me about <startup>, or for a real twist, see <file-rc>
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13:40<fxiny>Valdoran: i use gtf and i add the modeline . i'm not on lenny now so is hard for me to tell uou
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13:41<enouf>fxiny: no porbs! :-p
13:41<fxiny>enouf: hey !
13:42<enouf>;-)
13:42<fxiny>Valdoran: something like : gtf 1600 1200 75
13:42<Valdoran>fxiny, and the resulting modeline goes where exactly? :/
13:42<fxiny>enouf: you know ? i've managed to use pam_tally ;)
13:42<torrr>simonrvn, it doesn't work for me
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13:43<torrr>simonrvn, I have installed unrar non free, and the rar test files are OK
13:43<Valdoran>fxiny, nvm, should have read the manpages. I'll try it
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13:43<enouf>Valdoran: section monitor
13:43<fxiny>Valdoran: it goes in the monitor section . but you have to edit the screen session as well . lemm epaste my example
13:44<enouf>http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon find "modeline" examples there
13:44<torrr>if I rebuild from source, and install my build, does synaptic save my package somewhere?
13:45<torrr>if I do reinstall will it take mine or the original?
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13:45<fxiny>Valdoran: http://paste.debian.net/17915/
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13:45<simonrvn>building from source is not going to change anything
13:45<fxiny>enouf: yes ?
13:45<fxiny>good
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13:46<Valdoran>fxiny, enouf, thanks a lot, I'm gonna try this
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13:47<torrr>simonrvn, I can enable unrar from source
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13:47<torrr>simonrvn, and B. it is a general question, I rebuild stuff and want to revert to original version later
13:48<simonrvn>!wayttd torrr
13:48<dpkg>What Are You Trying To Do, torrr?
13:49<torrr>simonrvn, just trying to get clamd with unrar that don't crush onthe test/.split/* files
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13:49<simonrvn>don't crush?
13:49<vadmeste>Hi.. What's the best network applet in gnome ?
13:50<torrr>it cruush
13:50<vadmeste>(the most popular)
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13:51<torrr>vadmeste, you mean for traffic meter?
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13:51<billy>nm-applet network manager does all I need and no problem
13:51<vadmeste>billy, mmm
13:51<vadmeste>because I got a problem with it..
13:51<billy>wireless or wired
13:51<vadmeste>First, is Lenny is sufficienly stable ?
13:51<vadmeste>billy, wireless
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13:52<zumbi>!hi
13:52<dpkg>hello, zumbi
13:52<torrr>vadmeste, if you are talking about settin ips and stuff, better not use network manager
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13:52<billy>try wifi radar
13:52<torrr>vadmeste, better uninstall it completely
13:53<vadmeste>torrr, what the alternative program ?
13:53<zumbi>vadmeste: i tried wicd
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13:53<vadmeste>ok i'lll test..
13:53<torrr>vadmeste, I configure it in text files
13:53<vadmeste>torrr, ok
13:53<vadmeste>but remains one problem
13:53<zumbi>vadmeste: wicd is not in debian, but they have debian packages on their site
13:53<vadmeste>zumbi, ok
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13:54<billy>don't forget to start wicd module
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13:54<vadmeste>the LED of my intel 3945 doesn't work when I boot my computer.. even if I execute "modprobe ipw3945"
13:55<vadmeste>but when I type "modprobe -r 3945"
13:55<vadmeste>sorry
13:55<vadmeste>modprobe -r iwl3945
13:55<vadmeste>and after modprobe iwl3945
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13:55<vadmeste>he works
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13:56<billy>iwl3945 should load after reboot after you modprobe
13:56<vadmeste>"modprobe iwl3945" doesn't work.. but "modprobe -r iwl3945 ; modprobe iwl3045" work
13:56<Touns>please, lenny would be soon stable ? Could I use it for my dedicated server ?
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13:56<vadmeste>billy ?
13:56<vadmeste>i rebooted
13:57<vadmeste>my laptop
13:57<vadmeste>multiple times
13:57<vadmeste>but the same problem persist
13:57<vadmeste>I use lenny
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13:57<vadmeste>and all packages are updated
13:57<billy>modprobe -r iwl3945 && modprobe iwl3945
13:58<vadmeste>yeah
13:58<vadmeste>sorry
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13:58<billy>ifconfig wlan0 up
13:58<vadmeste>billy, it's like some errors occurs when kernel try to load the module the first time..
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13:59<billy>do you have a dell
13:59<vadmeste>no
13:59<vadmeste>it's a HP
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13:59<billy>do you have a wireless switch on keyboard
14:00<vadmeste>billy, yeah
14:00<blarson>vadmeste: Could be a problem with module loading error, or something not completely initialied when the module first tries to load.
14:00<vadmeste>blarson, yeah i guessed it..
14:00<vadmeste>i'll see dmesg
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14:00<^chewie>anyone work with zenoss at all?
14:00<blarson>s/loading error/loading order/
14:01<billy>did you install firmware
14:01<^chewie>when using SNMP discovery, it has this nice ability to scan the system for installed software
14:01<^chewie>this works beautifully on Solaris
14:01<^chewie>I was wondering how I could get this working for Debian derived boxes
14:02<vadmeste>billy, yeah of course
14:02<vadmeste>i install the package
14:02<vadmeste>installed
14:02<vadmeste>"fireware-iwl3945"
14:05<vadmeste>ok
14:05<vadmeste>when I explore "dmsg"
14:05<vadmeste>dmesg
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14:06<vadmeste>I see the second loading of the driver (after booting)
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14:06<vadmeste>generated more message about iwl3945
14:06<vadmeste>than the first one.. when loading..
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14:07<vadmeste>booting I mean
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14:07<vadmeste>sorry, I am not concentrated
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14:09<chealer>!tell vadmeste about enter
14:09<vadmeste>ok, sorry
14:10*Pryon stops himself before making a joke about being diluted
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14:15<torrr>simonrvn, to have rar support on clamav it is not enough to install unrar
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14:16<vadmeste>yeah.. he has to install the other non free package rar
14:16*fxiny takes a latin lesson : rosa rosam rosae , phoetora phoetoram phoetorae
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14:18<serge>Hello! Pls tell me the name of software which allows to perform mass OS installation over network.
14:19<vadmeste>torrr, I am not able to find any bug list of iwl3945
14:19<E0x_>serge: check FAI
14:19<E0x_>if is what are looking for
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14:19<serge>E0x_: Thanks!
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14:20<torrr>vadmeste, I don;t know about that
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14:21<torrr>vadmeste, just that the network manager is bad news, better uninstall completely. mine changed the static ip, and disconnected me
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14:22<czarny>hi, which of /dev's files respond for keyboard on debian?
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14:23<E0x_>czarny: why ?
14:23<E0x_>what are you try to do ?
14:23<czarny>i dont know how to configure pcsx to using keyboard
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14:24<E0x_>pcsx ?
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14:24<E0x_>what is that?
14:24<czarny>psx emu
14:24<E0x_>oh
14:24<czarny>in controler config i nead to add path to keyboard dev
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14:26<czarny>in google i was find it supoust to be a /dev/input/ts0 but i have no such file
14:26<gerolf>cw=Z]Q;NvPw>!
14:26<E0x_>i never use some thing for keyboard
14:27<E0x_>now that i think i not remember never use or indicate the keyboard device on /dev
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14:28<gerolf>#cw
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14:30<vadmeste>torrr, when I update my linux kernel, does synaptic execute initramfs ?
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14:31<torrr>vadmeste, I don't know, but I think your new kernel will get operative only after reboot
14:31<torrr>if it hels
14:32<torrr>ps
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14:34<kurumin>g
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14:35<vadmeste>ok
14:35<variable>where is kept debian wallpapers?
14:35<czarny>/usr/share/wallpapers
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14:37<fxiny>no more shares please , the market is bleeding :P
14:37<variable>no it is in /usr/share/images/desktop-base
14:38<enouf>fxiny: hehe
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14:39<fxiny>enouf: we sould file a bug agains "shares". i've got the right bug number : #700 :P
14:40<fxiny>should*
14:40<enouf>fxiny: you won't get if fixed, till the architect paulson says so :-p
14:41<amphi>fxiny: heh
14:41<fxiny>enouf: heheheh
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14:41<fxiny>enouf: what are the cheapest shares ? scox ?
14:43<enouf>SCOX doesn't currently meet the $100M market cap / $1.50 stock price minimum ...
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14:44<amphi>cheapest? whaddya mean? their 15 cents apiece ;)
14:44<amphi>*they're
14:44<initiate>i beg for help now ... i stil can't configure my X server
14:44<amphi>yeah, scox was delisted a good while back
14:44<enouf>kicked out the door
14:45<fxiny>ahhh yes !
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14:45<enouf>!blacklist SCOX
14:46<nowhere_man>I just switched to KDE 4.1 and I'm unable to find how to add a single application like it was possible with kicker in KDE 3
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14:46<amphi>initiate: nv is very basic; you need nvidia of you want 3d accel
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14:46<nowhere_man>isn't there a plasmoid that will launch a selected application?
14:46<enouf>amphi: fxiny haha @ -> "Scox may refer to:. Scox, an alternate spelling of Shax, a figure in demonology; "
14:46<amphi>a wot?
14:46<fxiny>hahahah
14:46<amphi>enouf: teehee
14:46<enouf>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scox
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14:46<initiate>amphi i downloaded nvidia-kernel,settings and glx and made a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
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14:47<fxiny>initiate: lenny ?
14:47<enouf>!nvidia
14:47<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch> or <nvidia_lenny>. nvidia.com drivers (ie. <nvidia-installer>) are _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net).
14:47<amphi>initiate: I know nothing of nvidia & its horrid blobbery, I'm afraid
14:47<enouf>go there
14:47<initiate>amphi that's the problem, i have no idea ... it's a net install
14:47<enouf>so use nv
14:47<initiate>enouf that's where i came from
14:47<enouf>go back
14:47<fxiny>vade retro
14:48<initiate>enouf 4 timess -.-
14:48<amphi>fxiny: ;)
14:48<fxiny>amphi: it was utf8 ;)
14:48<chealer>initiate: just ask your question
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14:49<initiate>chealer how do i configure my Xserver so it runs
14:49<fxiny>initiate: lenny ?
14:49<fxiny>tic tic tic
14:49<initiate>fxiny i don't know i said
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14:49<fxiny>must be etch then
14:50<initiate>fxiny i've just made a net install and have no idea what's installed
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14:50<enouf>amphi: fxiny i vote the 587 part of this URL be changed to 419 :-) http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/587-The-Mother-Of-All-Frauds.html
14:50<initiate>and yes i`m a newbie wanting to learn and have no idea how to check what's on my machine now
14:50<fxiny>i love the lenny dpkg-reconfigure xorg shock :P
14:51<enouf>!grounding
14:51<dpkg>Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference)
14:52<chealer>initiate: which Debian suite do you use?
14:52<initiate>chealer gnome
14:52-!-svend [~svend@D-69-91-137-158.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #debian
14:53<chealer>initiate: GNOME is a desktop environment
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14:53<chealer>!tell initiate about debian suite
14:53-!-SeLEct [~SeLEct@host-83-166-19-89.hernonet.se] has joined #debian
14:53<ranix>!tell me about debian suite
14:53<ranix>welcome back, dpkg
14:54<initiate>chealer, thanks. it's 4.0 , so that adds up to etch ,right?
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14:55<simonrvn>4+0=4 yes
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14:55<chealer>initiate: right
14:55<kdas>chealer, did you check out the wiki ?
14:55<chealer>initiate: which chipset does your video card use?
14:56<kdas>can some one suggest a flashplayer to use with opera or links2 ? preferably with links2..
14:56<chealer>kdas: yes. the section you linked to could use improvement, but what you added is fine.
14:56<simonrvn>ranix: stop that
14:57<simonrvn>abusing the bot like that will get you banned
14:57<simonrvn><dpkg> told simonrvn about CMD 'tell simonrvn about tell simonrvn about tell simonrvn about tell simonrvn about tell simonrvn ......
14:57<kdas>chealer, yea well that is other peoples work but what am i to do ? but thanks for checking it out. i am happy that i did it right LOL
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14:58<panagos>anyone know how to have all caps filenames in fat32? whenever i try to create one, it converts it to all lowercase
14:58<initiate>chealer in which conf file is that?
14:58<shivraj>my portmap daemon is not stopping anyone know ?
14:58<shivraj>I do /etc/init.d/portmap stop
14:58<shivraj>on shutdown it also doesnt stop
14:58<simonrvn>i'm requesting ranix be banned for using dpkg to spam me in /msg, which is way beyond what i did, which was use /msg dpkg to tell ranix about msg the bot
14:58<kdas>does any one here use a flash player?
14:58<simonrvn>i'll post logs
14:59<ranix>simonrvn: Sorry about that, it was an accident. Center-click
14:59<chealer>kdas: only what you can and want to do. that section will disappear anyway.
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14:59<shivraj>do I really need portmap ?
14:59<simonrvn>ffs
15:00<kdas>chealer, yea hopefully.. i should add my audio fix there to on the wiki.. but it is already easily accessible viz a google search and not very complicated
15:00<simonrvn>shivraj: if you're not running any rpc thingies, no
15:00<chealer>initiate: it's not set by configuration. that's a hardware property of your video card.
15:01<chealer>kdas: yes, I use one
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15:01<initiate>chealer uhm ... no idea what's the chipset exactly. it's nvidia for sure, the card is nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS
15:02<kdas>chealer, if i am not mistaken you use links2 correct? so if so what flash play do you use with links ?
15:02<chealer>kdas: no, I use konqueror
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15:04<enouf>kdas: use mplayer
15:04<enouf>kdas: /msg dpkg youtube script
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15:04<kdas>enouf, sweet thanks
15:04<kdas>chealer, ok well konquorer is alil to big for me
15:04<enouf>kdas: i'm one of the links2 users
15:05<kdas>enouf, oh yea it was you!, i asked you for a list of the programs you use because i like your style but you never sent me them
15:05<chealer>initiate: etch has very limited support for this card. you can use the included vesa driver, but that doesn't support any video acceleration. otherwise you can get more performant drivers, but this won't be easy. do you think that vesa would do?
15:06<enouf>kdas: well, i don't think i ever saw that .. but it's a silly request - test out stuff and find what you like ;-)
15:07<initiate>chealer i tried with vesa and it almost loaded, i mean - i saw the mouse with the X but in the upper left corner there was still a console and i was never prompted for login by X
15:07<kdas>enouf, yea its just you seem to have my style and i could save time
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15:09<enouf>dpkg: ping
15:09<dpkg>pong
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15:09<initiate>chealer to sum it up - i should try again with vesa and if it doesn't work just install windows again? :/
15:09<amphi>kdas: enouf took your style?
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15:09<enouf>seems dpkg isn't liking freenode much
15:09<ranix>initiate: the first time I installed Debian it took me a long time to figure xfree86.conf out
15:10<kdas>amphi, LOL no, our likings and style seems to be alike
15:10<ranix>initiate: I wouldn't let this kick you out, you should beat it instead
15:10<chealer>initiate: there was still a console, in the sense that the display was corrupt, or it was a X terminal emulator?
15:10<initiate>chealer the display was corrupt..
15:11<ranix>initiate: you should be able to use the framebuffer, no?
15:11<enouf>kdas: stick around, you'll hear people mentioning gems .. i'm not the only one with "style" ;-)
15:11<initiate>ranix i installed debian about 2 years ago and used it for about 6 months with my old video card
15:11<kdas>enouf, lol fair enough
15:11<initiate>ranix, i haven't tried using framebuffer actually
15:11<ranix>initiate: grab hwinfo and do hwinfo --framebuffer and see if you have available framebuffer modes
15:11<ranix>initiate: if that works, use X via the framebuffer
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15:12<kdas>enouf, i remember back in the day when i started to use debian for the first time... i was asking some X related question and some gentleman was like "why do you need X? you watch porn?"
15:12<initiate>ranix grabbing gnome atm
15:13<initiate>ranix, but will do though
15:13<ranix>initiate: k
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15:13<enouf>kdas: sounds familiar O_o
15:13<kdas>enouf, and i was like no. and then we went at it a lil bit on how a user could actually not use X and survive (and watch porn) so from that day until i had to switch back to windows for work (which was hella wierd) i used console
15:14<ranix>I once used wget and mplayer in the framebuffer with direct rendering to watch porn
15:14<ranix>in black and white
15:14<kdas>enouf, i thank that man though because that little time i had using only console, i learned alot
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15:14<kdas>ranix, LMFAO
15:14<enouf>yep, svga, directfb, etc
15:15<ranix>I remember some of the names in here still from all those years ago helping me get my mouse working in potato
15:15<ranix>back when a mouse not being plugged in crashed X
15:15<enouf>AllowNoMouse or something
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15:15<panagos>how can i instruct the kde usb mounter to pass certain parameters to pmount?
15:15<ranix>mwilson was around then and still is sometimes
15:15<chealer>initiate: you could always try with vga, but that had extremely poor performance/features. you may want to use lenny.
15:16<chealer>s/had/has
15:16<initiate>chealer how do i upgrade to lenny?
15:16<chealer>!tell initiate about e2l
15:16<enouf>!qotd12
15:16<dpkg><thomas_adam> mwilson is the only person I know that manages to use 'idiot' as a noun. :) * thomas_adam laughs <ricky_clarkson> thomas_adam: idiot *is* a noun. <mwilson> It IS a noun. <initech> thomas_adam: err .. it is a noun <Guerin> thomas_adam: how else does one use it? * thomas_adam laughs -- no no, nevermind. :) <Guerin> we have been trolled, fellow grammar nazis
15:16<ranix>initiate: change /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
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15:16<amphi>mwilson - there's a name from the past ;)
15:17<ranix>I remember you too amphi
15:17<ranix>haha
15:17<initiate>omw
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15:17<amphi>!mwilsonsmite ranix
15:18<enouf>misfire
15:18<ranix>lol
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15:18<amphi>damn, I'm sure there was an mwilsonsmite
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15:19<initiate>now i remember why i used to smoke ... it was something to do while waiting on my pc 14 years ago
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15:20<Pryon>LOAD"*",1
15:20<enouf>amphi: the Viceroy bought it out :-P
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15:21<enouf>amphi: you can buy a lot with 700Billion :-p
15:21<ranix>initiate: I'm certain I spent more time watching progress bars in 2007 than sleeping
15:21<garabato>alguna sala en espannol ?
15:21<ranix>!es
15:21<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
15:22<amphi>a lot of crap, by the look of it ;)
15:22<initiate>ranix, i want those hours waiting on oracle jdev compiling and deploying
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15:22<enouf>amphi: "Cash for Trash"
15:22<amphi>heh
15:22<enouf>[tm]
15:22<kdas>enouf, seems like Elte is trying to show you up on the youtube script
15:22<ranix>initiate: I didn't become an adult until recently so I missed that experience
15:22<initiate>did i say hours... i meant months -.-
15:23<enouf>kdas: yep - however, read the comments/whatever section - his is all busted
15:23<kdas>enouf, LOL
15:23<enouf>kdas: and nobody i've asked seems to know why - can you figure it out?
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15:23<initiate>ranix, the past 12 months of my life i spent communication with jdev about 14 hrs a day
15:23<garabato>GRACIAS!!!!!
15:24<ranix>initiate: I hope they were good guys at least. Why work so much?
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15:24<kdas>enouf, well i am going to use your script because if i have a problem i can contact you ;P but i don't know Mr. Elite
15:24<amphi>enouf: the sed version?
15:24<enouf>amphi: yeah
15:24<initiate>ranix, every beginning is tough ... new company, new technologies to learn, not enough time ... you`ll see one day :p
15:25<amphi>enouf: pftt, the awk/cut/blah one works fine, despite all the ugly plumbing
15:25<initiate>ranix, on a side note - hooray, on my way to upgrading to lenny
15:25<initiate>2 hrs to go
15:25<ranix>initiate: Still working on getting straightened out so I can get a degree. I think I made some poor decisions
15:25<enouf>amphi: my sentiments exactly ;-)
15:25<kdas>enouf, one thing, how the hell do you copy and paste in links2 and xterm ?
15:25<enouf>amphi: all 5-10 variations of them too
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15:26<enouf>kdas: links2 -g?
15:26<kdas>enouf, yes
15:26<enouf>no mouse?
15:26<initiate>i used to study chemistry, but after the third year i decided i`ll quit and i`m starting all over again next year
15:26<amphi>enouf: I still have the one from when I was messing with shift and mplayer args
15:26<kdas>enouf, i have mouse? but what about keyboard shortcut ?
15:26<enouf>amphi: me too ;-)
15:26<enouf>kdas: i don't bother - figure it out and comeback and tell us
15:27<kdas>enouf, LOL so you don't use copy and paste?
15:27<enouf>kdas: you saw /msg dpkg links2 settings
15:27<enouf>?
15:27<amphi>kdas: I use gpm in console
15:27<amphi>but I use w3m, not links2 ;)
15:28<enouf>kdas: not that it mentions hardly anything, but it's good for starters
15:28<kdas>amphi, gpm kicks ass!!!
15:28<kdas>enouf, lol ok i will take a look
15:28<enouf>rodent in console and X
15:29<initiate>afk
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15:29<diego__>hi there, do you know where can I get / set the default socket timeout ?
15:30<diego__>how much time do I have before a connection is believed to time out and gives system error 110
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15:31<enouf>amphi: the Viceroy just upchucked "but .. we need to move quickly!"
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15:31<monitor>oi
15:31<shivraj>I hope they fix all of these bugs in Debian
15:31<monitor>galera
15:31<monitor>em lock stock
15:31<shivraj>it says on some website that 5.0 will be released in 09/2008
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15:32<shivraj>I dont think thats possible given all of these bugs
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15:40<enouf>shivraj: don't believe everything you read
15:40<knoppix_>upsups
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15:41<Guest1424>moin moin
15:41<ranix>Debian is released when Debian is ready to be released
15:41<enouf>your 30secs ran out Guest1424
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15:41<kdas>enouf, i would like to apologize for my stupidity in asking the question about copying and pasting in links2
15:41<ranix>it's like a roast in the crock pot
15:42<ranix>it can't really over or undercook, it's just done when it comes out
15:42<enouf>kdas: why? no worries ..
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15:42<kdas>enouf, damn windows habbits ctrl-c
15:42<ranix>lol crtl-c
15:42<kdas>lol
15:42<ranix>my bad windows habit is super-r
15:43<ranix>for run
15:43<enouf>oh yeah - ctrl c.v.z
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15:43<enouf>i know and use all those - sorry - i forgot . lmao
15:43<kdas>ranix, i still do WIN + r and WIN + e
15:43<ranix>the one thing windows does awesomely is allowing movement of windows off-screen with alt->space->m and then arrow keys
15:43<ranix>of course if Windows didn't position my windows off-screen...
15:44<ranix>but I don't pick hairs
15:44<kdas>ranix, lol i get same problem with openbox though
15:45<kdas>enouf, ctrl+z don't seem to be copying ?
15:45<enouf>kdas: it does in any/all text boxes
15:46<enouf>kdas: like say a pastebin text box
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15:48<kdas>enouf, oh... what about just random text on the page? like i am trying to copy your script.. so its not ctrl+z ?
15:48<enouf>kdas: want to know a cool trick? when hitting 'g' to open the URL box, start typing a previous URL you used, but it's too far back to bother scrolling through them all - start typing 1st few letters like "en.wik" for en.wikipedia.org - use CTRL-W ;-)
15:48<ranix>kdas: are you in text-only mode?
15:48<ranix>kdas: do you have a mouse?
15:48<enouf>kdas: use the mouse
15:49<ranix>kdas: there is at least one program that enables a mouse cursor in a virtual terminal
15:49<Lethalman>gpm
15:49<ranix>and if you're in X, well, you're already gold there
15:49<ranix>thanks Lethalman
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15:50<kdas>ranix, i am in X in console is no problem gpm is my hero then
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15:51<kdas>enouf, i read about that lil trick i am just getting confused on how to copy random text off a web page
15:51<kdas>in X mind all of you
15:51<enouf>USE THE MOUSE!
15:51<enouf>;-)
15:52<enouf>i don't know of any (Bloated) browser that even allows you to do what you imply
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15:52<kdas>enouf, right click copy ? there is no menu and then i tryed 3rd click but still no luck so how exatcly am i to use the mouse ?
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15:52<enouf>kdas: highlight the test you want
15:52<enouf>it's then in your clipboard
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15:52<enouf>s/test/text
15:52<vadmeste>Hi.. There are an order of loading kernel modules ?
15:53<enouf>kdas: no need to right-click -> copy with Unix
15:53<kdas>enouf, i tryed that but then when i try to paste in a text editor (leafpad) it don't show up
15:53<enouf>kdas: then, shift+insert pastes
15:53<enouf>or middle mouse click
15:53<enouf>(wheel)
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15:54<enouf>you can even set up X to do Emulate3Buttons
15:54<kdas>enouf, ok shift insert didn't work but middle click worked
15:54<kdas>enouf, ok middle click to paste not copy lol
15:54<enouf>kdas: when you need to paste into say a Google Search bar - shift+insert
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15:55<enouf>again, for Text box areas, Ctrl-z, and Shift+Insert
15:55<enouf>for all other crap, Highlight, and middle click
15:55<enouf>got it?
15:56<enouf>now .. make me a sandwich
15:56<enouf>;-)
15:57<kdas>enouf, yes-a master
15:57<kdas>thanks
15:58<Blur2040>Is there a particular channel for lenny questions that I have not noticed?
15:58<dmoerner>this is it
15:58<Blur2040>woo!
15:59<kdas>lenny all the way!!!!..... until it becomes stable and we move on to next codename for testing LOL
15:59<dmoerner>squeeze
15:59<Blur2040>I'm having an issue with gnome...in that in the System menu, there is no shutdown options. At all. All I have is logout...which gives me the switch user and log out options
15:59<Blur2040>fresh install
15:59<Blur2040>cleared gnome config files...did nothing
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15:59<Blur2040>googled for it...can't find help
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16:01<fora-da-lei>Blur2040: permission?
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16:02<Blur2040>shouldn't i have that by default?
16:02<kdas>now i just need to find out how to get links2 to play swf via mplayer...
16:02<fora-da-lei>maybe, hehe... but... it's not there :P
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16:03<Blur2040>grumble...do I have to add myself to a certain user group then?
16:03*kdas wishes enouf whould have documented it in his youtube script tutorial :)
16:03<fora-da-lei>Blur2040: can you shutdown with a non-root user on terminal or console?
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16:03<Blur2040>not sure, i only tried it on root
16:03<Blur2040>root login on gnome (I know, I know) had no shutdown option either
16:03<fora-da-lei>hum
16:05<Blur2040>i know
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16:08<kdas>enouf, would you mind helping me setup how do i get links2 to run with your script ?
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16:14<enouf>kdas: sure
16:14<Blur2040>well, any ideas, let me know...no shutdown ability in gnome...kinda pissing me off
16:15<enouf>what's the problem? it's a simple shell script = all instructions are there
16:15<Blur2040>as in...I should just suck it up and create a button myself?
16:15<enouf>Blur2040: add your user to powerdev group?
16:15<enouf>Blur2040: go into gnome-control-center and tell it you're allowed?
16:16<kdas>enouf, that is simple enough but i can't figure out how to get that script/mplayer to play flash files automatically in links2
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16:16<enouf>kdas: it's meant specifically for youtube, but could be adapted i suppose
16:17<enouf>kdas: SWF is not FLV (youtube)
16:17<enouf>SWF are ActiveX objects
16:17<Blur2040>ping! I am part of the powerdev group
16:17<Blur2040>i mean, this is the sort of thing that should have been handled during installation is all
16:17<enouf>!congratulate pong!
16:17<dpkg>Woohoo pong!, you did it!
16:18<Blur2040>ping, i mean...er...I already was part of it
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16:18<kdas>enouf, ok bout youtube uses the swf container ?
16:19<enouf>kdas: no
16:20<enouf>not in almost all cases - sometimes, you;ll stumble onto idiots that do use it
16:20<kdas>enouf, LOL ok fair enough.. so then how do i get links2 to auto play flv ?
16:21<enouf>kdas: you don't, you do it all in xterm, you use mplayer
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16:21<kdas>enouf, so everytime i want to play a movie from youtube i have to copy the link and use the script through xterm ?
16:22<kdas>enouf, there isn't a way to automate that ?
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16:22<enouf>kdas: yep, my script does that
16:22<enouf>s/my/our
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16:23<amphi>or you can use it in a text console ;)
16:23<brian>grumble...definitely no shutdown
16:24<kdas>enouf, ok so i am asking how i set up your/yours script to run when i come to a flv file/ youtube link ?
16:24<fora-da-lei>Blur2040: try this: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-August/msg01903.html
16:24<enouf>kdas: see, if somehow, you can incorporate it into the somewhat limited links2 plugin ability - i just haven't bothered
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16:24<fora-da-lei>I know, it's red hat tutorial, but maybe it helps you
16:24<enouf>kdas: right click http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ paste that into xterm
16:24<amphi>kdas: perhaps if links2 uses /etc/mailcap, you could add an entry to it (or to your ~/.mailcap)
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16:25<enouf>type "yts" prior to "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ" and hit Enter
16:25<enouf>done
16:25<enouf>alias yts='bin/youtube.sh' or whatever
16:25<brian>fora-da-lei, thanks, i'll give it a look
16:25<amphi>you[tab] works for me
16:26<enouf>amphi: it does allow/accept plugins, but it's a bit outated and weird, like really, it calls another app - actually, seems apropos for this ;-)
16:26<amphi>uhuh
16:26<kdas>enouf, your script works in xterm without a doubt but my question is how to get links2 to show you the link to the video and when you click it it starts your script
16:27<enouf>kdas: i don't know - might be possible as i just explained
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16:27<kdas>enouf, ok i will do more research on mailcap
16:27<enouf>kdas: i'm sure i could get it to do that - maybe evne through File Associations
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16:28<enouf>kdas: as it is now- i have it open Acroread (with the file i clicked) whenever i click on a PDF
16:28<enouf>Same for gzip files, though i have it ask me
16:28<amphi>acroread? heh
16:29<enouf>amphi: yep - don't start - i'l go off
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16:29<amphi>;)
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16:29*amphi sets vrms on enouf
16:29<kdas>enouf, yea see i was thinking of something like that but havent figgured it out.. just make a file association to .flv/.swf to load up your script
16:30<enouf>amphi: and i'm busy atm, and got this pup that wants my attention - and all sorts of hearings and broadcasts are going on that i'm trying to watch and listen to ;-)
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16:30<enouf>kdas: go figure it out - give back ;-)
16:30<kdas>enouf, newb power!!!!
16:30<enouf>kdas: you can do it - i has the faith
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16:31<enouf>but i'm just busy man
16:31<kdas>enouf, if you got the faith... I can do it!!!
16:31<kdas>enouf, if oyu don't mid what do you do for living ?
16:31<kdas>you*
16:31<detective>i love debian
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16:31<amphi>he's paid to use acroread
16:32<kdas>detective, ditto
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16:32<kdas>amphi, LMFAO
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16:32<detective>debian > suse
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16:33<kdas>ubuntu = offspring of debian and vista
16:33<kdas>linux xp 2008 = confused child
16:33<kdas>lol
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16:34<detective>ubuntu is for beginners
16:34<Citronen>my ubuntu-server just crashed (my mistake xD), gunna wait for the new Debian release...
16:34<Citronen>Whenever it'll come...
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16:34<Citronen>I want it now <3
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16:39<Nemoder>Citronen: why wait? http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
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16:48<Citronen>Nemoder: Hrrm... I could install that untill the final release, or do you believe that to be the final release too?
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16:48<Nemoder>no it's still being updated, but you can easily get the updates as the come in until it's stable
16:48<Citronen>Hrrm... Sounds good enough, might do that! :)
16:48<Citronen>Thanks, Nemoder :)
16:49*Citronen runs away and grabs a CD-RW
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16:52<Citronen>Buuurning
16:52<Citronen>You owe me a CD-RW, Nemoder
16:52<Nemoder>:)
16:52<Citronen>:)
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17:04<kdas>anyone here use bitlbee?
17:05<dmoerner>i do, but i don't use a local bitlbee server.
17:05<enouf>oh dear - not an "anyone" question ..
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17:06<avu>kdas, just ask your question.
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17:07<kdas>avu, i was just wondering how to run it and connect to it.. i read how to use it already but how ot get it up and connect to it i don't know
17:07<avu>kdas, you just connect to it as you connect to any irc server
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17:08<craigevil>kdas: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html
17:08<avu>kdas, and the starting it part is done by the init script that comes with the package
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17:09<kdas>avu, 127.0.0.1 6667 server? and i just apt-get install bitlbee it so it should be running no need to start it ?
17:09<avu>kdas, the first part depends on how you configure it and yes
17:10<enouf>netstat -tunap as superuser
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17:11<avu>kdas, it comes with enough documentation really. just install it, answer the debconf questions and read the docs that come with the package if you still hae problems
17:11<kdas>avu, well as i said, i just ran apt-got it so i didn't config anything and i tryed to connect via default 127.0.0.1 and 6667 but no luck
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17:11<kdas>avu, i did not get any debconf questions LOL
17:11<avu>kdas, well then see the configuration
17:12<avu>kdas, and if you don't understand the configuration, look at the documentation that came with the package
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17:13<kdas>avu, the problem was that debconf did not give me any questions... i just ran dpkg-reconf on it and it worked
17:13<kdas>avu, i got to find out why my debconf not catching this stuff...
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17:13<avu>kdas, probably because of your default debconf priority settings
17:14<kdas>avu, i think they are set to low.. dpkg-reconf debconf ? LOL
17:14<detective>apt-get remove kernel
17:14<detective>lol
17:14<avu>dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf
17:14<avu>!lol
17:14<dpkg>If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user.
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17:18<kdas>avu, was that -plow command a LOL or the actual thing ?
17:18<avu>kdas, I beg your pardon?
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17:19<avu>kdas, just read the dpkg-reconfigure manpage if you don't understand what I wrote
17:19<detective>!rofl
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17:19<kdas>avu, ok
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18:25<famelix>wenas gente
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18:58<alex_>hi
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18:59<alex_>i'm on a debian sid, i got in a vicious circle with dependencies
19:01<alex_>i get an error while i try to dist-upgrade. it cant process base-passwd
19:01<alex_>anyone to help?
19:02<dmoerner>alex_: could you please pastebin the exact error message
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19:02<alex_>i got an italian environment, i'll translate...
19:03<alex_>/usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext/gettext.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr
19:03<alex_>dpkg: error processing base-passwd (--configure):
19:03<dpkg>alex_: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
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19:04<abrotman>alex_: are you mixing versions of debian?
19:04<alex_>no!
19:04<alex_>i'm not, i'm on sid since 1 year or something
19:04<abrotman>you sure?
19:04<abrotman>and when is the last time you did a dist-upgrade?
19:04<alex_>before summer actually
19:04-!-JavaUser [~JavaUser@c-67-177-80-39.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #debian
19:04<alex_>say late may
19:05<JavaUser>hey linux crowd
19:05<abrotman>what's the point of running sid .. if you never update?
19:05<JavaUser>i need some help with debian
19:05<alex_>i always updated before may
19:05<alex_>but i couldn't as this pc has been given to my cousin, and i just got it back
19:06<alex_>triggers-awaited is current status
19:06<JavaUser>_-_ lol i came here expecting a support group
19:06<alex_>and base-passwd is not ready for configuration
19:06<abrotman>JavaUser: so ask your questoin
19:07<JavaUser>ok can i pre configure debian ?
19:07<abrotman>!preseed
19:07<dpkg>it has been said that preseed is a method of doing a remote network installation, or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394, or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
19:07<alex_>abrotman, any idea for my problem?
19:07<abrotman>dpkg: preseed =~ s/394,/394/
19:07<dpkg>OK, abrotman
19:08<abrotman>alex_: sounds like one of the libraries is out of whack
19:08<alex_>one of the perl ones
19:08<torrr> http://pastebin.com/m2c855fbd any one know this?
19:08<abrotman>or someone has been compiling from source
19:09<alex_>how you mean
19:10<alex_>compiling what
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19:11<alex_>ok i got an idea
19:12-!-tpelka_wfh [~tpelka___@a04-0408a.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #debian
19:13<alex_>i'm gonna purge all perl libraries, and update to recent ones
19:13<alex_>so that i can run a decent dist-upgrade
19:14<abrotman>i doubt that would work ...
19:15<alex_>i got no plan B
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19:17<JavaUser>hey guys i was thinking of building a tv top linux box but should i go for a beagelboard or a mini itx mobo
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19:18<abrotman>that's your Debian question ?
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20:41<insigne>oi
20:41<insigne>tchaum
20:42<insigne>lk
20:42<DeMoNHeLL>hello i want to report that with my motherboard for lenny version i have an error of pci and also MMConfig
20:42<insigne>mmocovb
20:43<insigne>]
20:43<insigne>wand
20:43<insigne>viado
20:43-!-NeverSleep [~neverslee@adsl46-128.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #debian
20:43<enouf>DeMoNHeLL: try booting with pci=nommconf ?
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20:43<insigne>vodo mert
20:44<insigne>quem é
20:44<DeMoNHeLL>enouf how do i do that
20:44<enouf>insigne: stop please
20:44<DeMoNHeLL>??
20:44<insigne>?/
20:44<enouf>DeMoNHeLL: pass the kernel the option - append it to your grub kernel line
20:44<insigne>k
20:44<DeMoNHeLL>can i edit it?
20:44<enouf>DeMoNHeLL: cat /proc/cmdline
20:44<insigne>erne
20:44<DeMoNHeLL>ho ok
20:44<insigne>cat
20:45<insigne>ho k
20:45<enouf>DeMoNHeLL: nano, vim, joe whatever
20:45<enouf>DeMoNHeLL: cat /proc/cmdline will show you the (root) line in grub to append to
20:46<DeMoNHeLL>i saw im editing the file
20:46<insigne>j vi
20:46<DeMoNHeLL>btw my sound aint working
20:46<DeMoNHeLL>its using alsa normally in fedora
20:47<DeMoNHeLL>and pulse audio
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20:47<marve>hello
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20:49<DeMoNHeLL>gees i cant save in that file
20:49<DeMoNHeLL>why
20:49<DeMoNHeLL>its says error writting
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20:50<amphi>DeMoNHeLL: just edit the kernel command line in grub when you boot
20:51<amphi>DeMoNHeLL: if it works, you can edit menu.lst then
20:51<DeMoNHeLL>oki ill see brb
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20:51<amphi>with fewer studlycaps I hope
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20:53<DeMoNHeLL>it work for that but i still have sound problem i think
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20:57<DeMoNHeLL>oh god i just put a music cd in my dvd writer and its making strange noise
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20:59<DeMoNHeLL>ill try install pulse audio
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21:01<enouf>so much for being root for editing system files :-P
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21:03<DeMoNHeLL>yihpee it fix my sound bug:P
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21:03<enouf>crazy canucks :-P
21:04<DeMoNHeLL>any program for gnome to play cds?
21:04<enouf>tons of them?
21:04<Nemoder>grip can play them (and then rip if you want to)
21:05<enouf>apt-get update ; apt-cache search cd | grep play ?
21:05<DeMoNHeLL>btw is it normal to see this debian:/home/demonhell#
21:05<enouf>whoami
21:06<enouf>DeMoNHeLL: yeah, that's your PS1
21:06<DeMoNHeLL>its stupid to always stay root in terminal
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21:06<enouf>yep
21:06<DeMoNHeLL>oh do you fix that
21:06<enouf>and you should've been able to write to that file then :-P
21:07<enouf>be a user
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21:07<enouf>or, exit your chroot
21:07<enouf>oh, you su'd to root
21:08<DeMoNHeLL>i see directly in the panel
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21:09<DeMoNHeLL>i see in the setting /home/demonhell
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21:12<DeMoNHeLL>brb testing something
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21:20<enouf>no 16 char limit anymore eh?
21:21-!-enouf is now known as Corn_Clovis_Clown_Chowder
21:21<Corn_Clovis_Clown_Chowder>cool
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21:25<amphi>enouf: it's not going to do the æsthetics of my display any good at all
21:25-!-enouf is now known as Corporate_Commie_Capitalist_PI
21:25<Corporate_Commie_Capitalist_PI>haha :-P
21:25-!-Corporate_Commie_Capitalist_PI is now known as Corporate_Commie_CapitalistPIG
21:26<Corporate_Commie_CapitalistPIG>amphi: i be CCCP - yeah, you know me :-P
21:26<abrotman>wouldn't the value of pi be more fun ?
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21:28<fabian>hi, question, im trying to build a deb package from sources, I want to use the option with mysql, what package contain the mysql lib that i need to build other packages?
21:29-!-mode/#debian [+l 304] by debhelper
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21:30<abrotman>fabian: apt-cache -- search mysql -dev
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21:32<enouf>i thought it was on freenode :-/
21:33<abrotman>!pal enouf
21:33*dpkg points at enouf and laughs
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21:38<MotoHoss>keyobard works fine in X. keyboard doesn't work fine in(tty) console. the arrow keys(4) do not work, home, doesn't work.. a couple others are unpredictable. where do I begin to look for te problem to solve it? dpkg-reconfigure console data didn't help.
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21:38<MotoHoss>s/keyobard/keyboard
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21:42<danger>sup?
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22:01<Sono2>Hey
22:01<Sono2>anyone here
22:01*amphi hides
22:01<vitry>anyone for a few time
22:01<Sono2>k :) , how to check the socket are connected or disconnected?
22:02<vitry>fucked joins and parts, is the first to ignore
22:03<bugaloo>Sono2: what socket?
22:03<vitry>you can use the lsof comand ...
22:03<Sono2>posix socks
22:03<vitry>#lsof -ni (by example)
22:04<vitry>the output is more clean that netstat
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22:05<vitry>work fine?
22:05<Sono2>yes but i need a c function
22:06<vitry>mmm
22:07<abrotman>ask ##c on freenode?
22:07<vitry>but for read all the sockets binds on the system?
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22:07<vitry>s/read/list
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22:11<Canaris_>hey
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22:11<Canaris_>I just installed Lenny and it works perfectly fine so far, I just have a small problem. Whenever I click on "Computer" (on the desktop) it opens Nautilus, but on a very small windows and whenever I click on a folder a new windows is being opened
22:12<Canaris_>I do I stop it from doing that and have it start nautilus in "Explorer-View" instead (i hope u know what i mean)
22:12<vitry>Sono2, please, can you reask the answer how god commanded
22:14<abrotman>Canaris_: i dont' think you can do explorer view .. but you can change that new window thing
22:14<abrotman>you can view as icons or list AFAIK
22:14<bugaloo>Canaris_: Edit -> preferences
22:14<Canaris_>bugaloo, ok thanks
22:15<bugaloo>Canaris_: Behavior tab.. check "always open in browser" or something like this
22:15<Canaris_>bugaloo, ahh ok i will give that a try
22:15<Canaris_>and just one more question
22:15<bugaloo>my nautilus is in portuguese, so I don't know the exact words :)
22:15<abrotman>that's pretty close
22:16<Canaris_>When I work with nautilus in "browser-mode" and I want to copy some file to...lets say /lib/firmware. It wont let me do that cause i dont have the right priviliges. (I am just signed in as a normal user) Is there some way to sudo graphically or do i just have to copy the file using the CLI ?
22:17<Canaris_>which isn't really that big a deal. I just thought that there must be a way to do that
22:17<bugaloo>yes... use the dksu
22:17<abrotman>gksu ?
22:17<Canaris_>whats dksu?
22:17<bugaloo>dksu nautilus
22:17<bugaloo>it will open nautilus with root permission
22:18<bugaloo>if you know the password, of course
22:18<Canaris_>is that the same as 'sudo nautilus' ?
22:18<bugaloo>yes, but in graphic mode
22:18<Canaris_>oh ok
22:19<Canaris_>bugaloo, thanks man
22:19<bugaloo>so you can crate an icon to do that
22:19<bugaloo>welcome :)
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22:20<Canaris_>anyhow I am off to bed now. u guys have a good night
22:20<Canaris_>bye
22:20<abrotman>he just comes in and uses us!
22:20<Canaris_>haha
22:20<Canaris_>iam sorry
22:21<Canaris_>I would help you guys as welll, but I seriously doubt that there's anything I could help u with
22:21<bugaloo>you can give some gold, haha
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22:21<Canaris_>lol
22:22<Canaris_>how come there are so many users signed in, but noones talking?
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22:23<bugaloo>well... lots of bots? hehe
22:23<bugaloo>I dont know
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22:25<abrotman>Canaris_: lurkers ..
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22:27<MotoHoss>silent users, the kind real a real BOFH likes.
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22:28<pheonix>MotoHoss: heh...
22:28<MotoHoss>&<)
22:29<nonapus>i'll talk,
22:29<pheonix>MotoHoss: BOFH ?
22:29<pheonix>i'll talk, too.... :-)
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22:29<nonapus>i want to run a synergy server on a headless system, how should i go about doing it?
22:29<ranix>i am also here
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22:30<ranix>nonapus: to share the console of the headless system?
22:30<MotoHoss>BOFH, an old humour deal google it and you'l find the stories.
22:30<pheonix>heh
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22:31<pheonix>I have a question...
22:31-!-freealan [~freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
22:31<ranix>!ask
22:31<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
22:31<pheonix>is the article on wikipedia correct related to debian_
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22:31<pheonix>?
22:31<abrotman>the article?
22:31<pheonix>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian
22:31<abrotman>yes .. what about it
22:32<pheonix>abrotman: well, some people were desiring to bring it up to good article status
22:32<nonapus>ranix: no, i want to run the synergy server on the headless debian box, where the mouse and keyboard are connected, and be able to use that mouse and keyboard on two other clients that do have monitors. one client is an ubuntu desktop, and the other is a windows desktop
22:32<abrotman>pheonix: do you have a problem withanything it says?
22:32<pheonix>abrotman: well, it needs copyediting, etc.
22:33<abrotman>in non-wiki-fanboi terms? :)
22:33<pheonix>heh, yeah
22:33<nonapus>i think synergy needs an x server to get the input... so i would use the most minimal setup i could manage. maybe xvfb would work?
22:33<ranix>nonapus: yes
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22:34<ranix>nonapus: at this time synergy2 requires X input
22:34<abrotman>pheonix: maybe you'd send an email to the debian-project list and ask them to review it ?
22:34<pheonix>abrotman: what's their e-mail address?
22:34<abrotman>http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/
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22:35<abrotman>i'm not sure who else you would ask
22:35<pheonix>ah ok, I will check up on it
22:35<pheonix>thx
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22:35<nonapus>ranix: okay thats helpful to know. do you have any ideas on what kind of server i can run to only capture the input? how do i get the server to take the input, and not the console?
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22:37<ranix>nonapus: thinking
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22:40<ranix>nonapus: xvfb might do it for you
22:41<nonapus>alright, ill try it out. thanks alot
22:42<ranix>nonapus: i believe xvfb is incapable of handling actual input devices however
22:44<ranix>nonapus: check xephyr
22:44<ranix>nonapus: that will get convoluted though. Just thinking about it I think I'd have to draw a graph
22:45<ranix>xephyr sending visuals to the xvfb window will allow you to capture input you pipe with synergy
22:45<ranix>and then you have a very strange console sharing headless server
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22:48<nonapus>ranix: yeah, its a ridiculous set up in the first place,
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22:48<nonapus>ill look into how involved it's going to be.
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22:48<ranix>nonapus: you did get me interested in multiterminals now
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22:51<ranix>man I wish I had a reason/use for a multiterminal system
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22:53<ranix>you could hook up a whole library to one central x server for web browsing with a bunch of 4-seat thin clients who load X via nfs
22:54<nonapus>i set up a system in my parent's house that did something like that
22:55<ranix>the last cool project I did was back in the 90's
22:55<ranix>set up a ton of computers in my dad's basement using a dial-up LAN
22:55<nonapus>there are three diskless nodes, each connects to a tv, and they all load x running mythtv clients,
22:56<nonapus>then there's a central server with the mythtv server, it's pretty rad.
22:56<ranix>that does sound pretty rad
22:56<ranix>do you have them using infrared remotes
22:56<nonapus>i tried to set up the nodes to act as a cluster...
22:56<nonapus>but then i couldn't get the video drivers to compile
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22:57<nonapus>yeah, i had to solder my own serial port ir recievers and use lirc
22:57<ranix>huh
22:58<ranix>these days it's easy to get a little media case with an IR receiver built in
22:58<ranix>i guess that's not as geeky
22:58<nonapus>yeah, i built my own cases out of plexi
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22:59<nonapus>i'm not afraid of a little soldering, the schematics are on the lirc website.
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22:59<rrm>!remove xfce
22:59<rrm>where i could find the .xinitrc file?
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23:00<ranix>I would look in ~/
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23:00<rrm>maybe another newb q: where is ~/
23:01<nonapus>rrm: home directory, dawg
23:01<nonapus>if there is no .xinitrc, you want to look at /private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
23:01<nonapus>/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc**
23:01<rrm>not there
23:02<rrm>i am running etch 1/2
23:02<ranix>touch ~/.xinitrc
23:02<ranix>now is it in your home directory?
23:03<rrm>yeah
23:03<ranix>happy to help
23:03<ranix>edit to your heart's content
23:03<rrm>thank you sir... but i wanted to get the main one for all user to edit it
23:04<rrm>i prefer to run twm:-) like in 97
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23:05<ranix>ah here's some info on that
23:05<ranix>man xinit
23:05<nonapus>rrm: mine is under /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ... you can prol just edit to that file if it doesn't already exist
23:05<ranix>has info on locations of xinitrc
23:06<rrm>mine does not tell me much
23:07<ranix>you could also just put one in /etc/skel
23:07<ranix>depending on what you're doing
23:08<rrm>i want to change from xfce desktop to blackbox
23:08<rrm>worked fine before xfce
23:08<ranix>fluxbox is better
23:09<rrm>i thought that blackbox is less memory intensive
23:09<ranix>mildly so
23:09<rrm>i got a 900mhz celeron with 512 ram and 10gb hdd, bim r30
23:09<ranix>fluxbox has some hot utilities like desktop background setting and init script handling
23:10<ranix>i've been using 1.2ghz celerons with 256 megs of ram as my primary machines since 2000
23:10<rrm>ranix... i am a newb... i do not know any programing...
23:10<ranix>maybe even 99
23:10<rrm>i wish i can find articles online, but most of the stuff is way beyond my understanding, as what is where
23:10<ranix>no problem with a 900mhz
23:11<rrm>true... but i do not want slow... i did install gnome and is a pig... i narrow it down that i only need gnome-system-tools for network setup
23:12<ranix>nah get rid of that and just use /etc/network/interfaces
23:12<ranix>you should spend some time in the console
23:12<rrm>even for wifi
23:12<ranix>maybe learn to ditch pico or nano for vim
23:13<ranix>I use a shell script for wifi
23:13<rrm>nano is good simple... vim only works when i ctrl z, lol
23:13<ranix>./dadswifi or ./workwifi or ./homewifi I just run, it runs iwconfig
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23:14<ranix>back when I first played with wireless adapters we didn't have this fancy pants gnome
23:14<rrm>when i got that level will take a while... my background was mac to win to linux
23:15<ranix>or these shiny new ndis wrappers
23:15<ranix>we had broadcom 802.11b and we liked it
23:15<rrm>ndis... hah... i manager madwifi from source
23:15<rrm>managed
23:16<rrm>i am going to reinstall all from scratch and use flux if u say so
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23:21<johns>suggestions for configuring xfce4 with no right click? :) trying to add things to the panel, for starters.
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23:25<nonapus>johns: try shift+f10
23:26<johns>nonapus: sigh, no function keys either at the moment
23:29<nonapus>maybe you can map shift+f10 to another key... it might not even work on your desktop. it will work in gtk applications, also qt i think
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23:38<nonapus>and by that i mean i know it works in gnome desktop
23:38<nonapus>i read that it works in xfce
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23:53<amol>hi to all, how to create release.gpg signature for release file?
23:54<stew>amol: gpg --sign -a Release
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23:56<amol>stew, this output i am getting [testing]#gpg --sign -a Release ...gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
23:56<amol>gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
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