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00:29<yzhh>hi, I have a problem with network-manager-kde (aka knetworkmanager) - I can't find a way to import pptp connection configuration created by network-manager-pptp-gnome.
00:30<yzhh>Has anyone have come across the same problem and found a solution?
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00:35<johnfg>hi guys
00:37<johnfg>When I upgraded updated from etch to lenny, I got a message that I would need to install postgresql-8.2 and postgresql-client-8.2. But when I issued the command apt-get install postgresql-8.2, here's the error message I got:
00:37<johnfg>Package postgresql-8.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
00:37<johnfg>This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
00:37<johnfg>is only available from another source
00:37<johnfg>E: Package postgresql-8.2 has no installation candidate
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00:38<deniz>in "powerpoint" or impress, how do i add a backround colour in a slide?
00:38<deniz>in etch
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00:56<Ninja>hahahaha
00:56<Ninja>gg dpkg
00:56<Ninja>!nethack server
00:56<dpkg>server died in the Dungeons of Doom on level 3. Killed by a chaotic wand. DYWYPI server ?
00:56<Ninja>xD
00:56<Ninja>did not expect that
00:56<Ninja>oh wait responce is random even xD
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00:56<Ninja>died in level 1 by a kobold last time xD
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00:57<Ninja>that bot rocks
00:57<ill>lawl nethack
00:57<Ninja>yea loading up an old debian iso into vmware n going to try n get a nethack server going again
00:57<Ninja>i miss it
00:58<karpagam>hi everybody
01:00<karpagam>my problem is after installing debian i am unable to boot another linux os
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01:04<yzhh>karpagam: if you're using grub2 (not grub-legacy), then install os-prober and run update-grub may find other os automatically.
01:06<karpagam>it is detecting the other os but giving error message 'error 2 : bad file or directory type'
01:06<karpagam>while selecting that os
01:07<karpagam>and pressing enter on the boot screen
01:07<enouf>too many grubs installed
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01:09<karpagam>what shall i do now to rectify?
01:09<yzhh>karpagam: you'd better get into grub2 console and find out which disk your other os is on - I assume you have 2 or more disks.
01:10<karpagam>how to enter grub2 console
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01:11<karpagam>the /grub/menu.lst shows correct values
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01:12<yzhh>I have come across the problem where grub2 recognize hd0 and hd1 in different orders before and after linux booted
01:12<enouf>grub2 has no menu.lst, does it?
01:13<yzhh>that is, what looks correct after linux booted may well be wrong before boot
01:13<karpagam>sorry i was talking grub
01:13<yzhh>grub2 used grub.conf
01:13<karpagam>how to enter grub2 console and how to proceed after that?
01:14<yzhh>are you using grub or grub2?
01:14<karpagam>only grub
01:14<jm_>then read the text at the bottom of the screen when menu shows up
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01:15<yzhh>well, u type c to get grub console, on boot time. Or type e to edit a command that's already there.
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01:16<karpagam>i'e' to edit the commands and 'c' for a command line
01:16<karpagam>'e' to edit the commands and 'c' for a command line
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01:17<yzhh>yes, jm_ said the right thing. What I said is what is shown in the text at the bottom of the screen
01:17<yzhh>and make sure you do know grub commands
01:18<karpagam>i press e and entered the edit screen and it shows correct partition for the os
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01:18<karpagam>kernel /boot/vmlinuz...........
01:19<yzhh>you can use "find" command or tab completion in the console to verify if it is really correct
01:19<karpagam>initrd /boot/initrd
01:19<yzhh>make sure they're not symlinks
01:20<karpagam>thank you i'll try
01:20<jm_>also keep in mind partitions in GRUB start with 0, not with 1
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01:21<karpagam>ok i'll check the said parameters
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01:22<henson>is there anyway to install the 2.6.27 kernel on lenny beta2?
01:22<rotciv>i just downloaded gnome and type "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager" but it shows me only xfwm4 and metacity. is gnome the "metacity" option?
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01:23<craigevil>gnome is the desktop , metacity is the wm it uses
01:24<rotciv>craigevil: to change the desktop environment, what command should i type?
01:24<jm_>henson: you can compile it yourself
01:24<craigevil>if you use gdm the Session menu
01:24<jm_>try changing x-session-manager
01:24<jm_>or with *dm check its menus
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01:27<rotciv>in case i change xfwm4 for metacity, what happens?
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01:27<jm_>the world will collapse of course
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01:29<henson>jm_: how long do you think it'll be before the new kernel hits? It has built-in support for my wireless card, so I might way instead of playing with ndiswrapper
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01:32<craigevil>henson: if your running lenny or sid you could grab the sidux kernel, i use it on my eee running lenny
01:33<jm_>henson: I think the goal is to release Lenny with 2.6.26 kernel
01:36<chealer>henson: there's no such thing as lenny beta 2. you must be thinking of d-i
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01:37<rotciv>i made it! :)
01:38<henson>according to dpkg, there's a snapshot of 2.6.27-git8
01:38<rotciv>now let me ask a question: is it relevant to remove xfce4?
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01:46<SuperMario1776>Hello. I would like to install debian-40r4a-powerpc-netinst on to a 2000 iBook (firewire) but have been unable to do so because the CDs I have burnt using my pc fail to boot. I have tried holding down Option, c and D (individually) when powering on. Although the CD spins it does not boot, and when OS 9 comes up it says the the disc needs to be initialized. I have tried reading driver CDs that are supposed to contain Mac dr
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01:47<kdas>how do i check the clients that are connected to me ? i am running dnsmasq ?
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01:48<jm_>kdas: the clients are nto connected all the time
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01:49<kdas>jm_, true, but i just turned on and connected one of my clients(router) and i want to see if it got a ip
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01:50<jm_>kdas: ahh you mean as DHCP server? check the leases
01:51<kdas>jm_, yea i am running host, and i am seeing if my client successfully connected. were are the leases saved?
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01:52<ill>SuperMario1776, what format did you burn the discs?
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01:54<SuperMario1776>I have been trying to use PowerISO to burn the CDs
01:55<jm_>did you burn it as an image or as a file?
01:55<SuperMario1776>image
01:57<jm_>then try the ppc channel maybe
01:57<SuperMario1776>I believe the problem is that the iBook wants HFS file format, and I can't find any free windows software that'll burn HFS. Theres Roxio Toast, but it costs $80.
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01:58<jm_>well it doesn't matter what software supports if you're burning an image prepared in HFS format
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01:59<SuperMario1776>what is the ppc channel?
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01:59<SuperMario1776>#ppc?
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02:00<jm_>!ppc
02:00<dpkg>i guess ppc is is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc
02:00<jm_>let's see what file says for the image
02:00<ill>SuperMario1776, I recall burning a debian netinstall disc with a PC when I installed debian on my G4
02:00<ill>But it was long ago
02:00<ill>And I do remember having to do something funny
02:01<ill>And I had the same problems as you
02:01<ill>There is a way to do it though, so hang in there
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02:01<jm_>yeah the file is in iso9660 format
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02:05<SuperMario1776>jm: so are you agreeing that the iBook wanting HFS may be the problem?
02:08<SuperMario1776>most attempts I have made to figure this problem out have resulted in everyone saying that there should be no problem, including no compatibility problem, and I slowly go insane (more insane)
02:09<jm_>SuperMario1776: to be honest, I am clueless about apple hardware, but the image is definitely in ISO9660 format
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02:10<SuperMario1776>k, thanks
02:12<jm_>hmm most people say they use yaboot with linux kernel and initrd
02:13<stevecotton>Would it be dumb to suggest booting your PC with a Live CD, and using that to burn the CD for your Mac?
02:13*stevecotton assumes the PC is separate to the iBook
02:14<SuperMario1776>it is
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02:14<SuperMario1776>booting to what? debian? does debian come with a cd burner that has HFS support?
02:15<stevecotton>I think the HFS is part of the ISO image, but that wouldn't explain why it doesn't burn properly under Windows.
02:16<ill>I think there might be something you add to the image
02:16<ill>But are you getting a particular error message?
02:17<SuperMario1776>#debianppc's info says "Debian CDs are not bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs" but my iBook should be considered an oldworld mac, everything I read says it's not....
02:17<SuperMario1776>*shouldn't
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02:18<ill>No no no
02:18<SuperMario1776>during boot I don't anything, the cd spins but nothing happens, it just goes to OS 9
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02:19<ill>And old world mac is a pre-g3 (with a couple exceptions)
02:19<ill>You are new world
02:19<ill>Meaning you are running the newer openfirmware
02:19<ill>Well you should see the little mac image
02:19<SuperMario1776>yes, i do
02:19<ill>But then it should dump into a linux menu
02:20<SuperMario1776>nope, don't get that...
02:20<ill>Make sure you are burning an exact copy of the image to the disc
02:20<ill>Sometimes it'll try to put the iso inside of an iso
02:20<ill>...so to speak
02:21<jm_>SuperMario1776: what files do you see on the CD if you run ls?
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02:21<SuperMario1776>OS 9 doesn't like the CD. I get a message saying "This disk is unreadable by this computer. Do you want to initialize the disk?".
02:22<jm_>wow, that's retarded, even DOS can read iso9660 :P
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02:22<SuperMario1776>the disk can be read by my PCs...
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02:27<ill>SuperMario1776, that indiciates that is it burning some sort of "PC" format
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02:28<ill>http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm
02:28<ill>Use that freeware
02:28<ill>And make sure it is burning a direct copy
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02:35<jm_>SuperMario1776: what does PC show as contents?
02:35<SuperMario1776>folders and files
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02:37<jm_>ok so it looks like it's burned correctly - do you see at least these files/dirs: debian dists pool README.* ?
02:38*SuperMario1776 tears his hair out
02:39<SuperMario1776>ISO recorder gave me the error "Operation has failed. Code: c0aa0403, Reason: the provided stream to write is not supported.""
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02:40<ill>I'd re-download the image
02:41<SuperMario1776>if I only I had a stick of dynamite, I'd fix the iBook real good...
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02:41<ill>Try burning from OS 9
02:42<SuperMario1776>I tried burning in OS X, couldn't get anywhere
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02:42<SuperMario1776>I don't OS 9 running on anything with a burner
02:43<jm_>SuperMario1776: well you can burn it on a PC if you have a burner there
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02:44<ill>http://www.computing.net/answers/mac/dmg-without-os-x-using-a-pc/10311.html
02:48<SuperMario1776>ok, dmg2iso could convert a mac dmg file to an iso, now if I could go in the opposite direction that would be something...
02:52<ill>This is all ringing a bell though
02:52<ill>So I think I'll remember what you need to do
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02:54<ill>Did you try using that simple ISO burning utility?
02:55<Supaplex>SuperMario1776: why iso2dmg?
02:56<Supaplex>hummm
02:56<Supaplex>diskutility.app will burn an iso
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02:56<SuperMario1776>not for me
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02:57<SuperMario1776>I couldn't get anywhere trying to burn the iso from OS X
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03:01<kdas>how do i install grub to my compact flash disk ? when i use lilo it works fine but i having troubles with grub
03:01<ill>http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-burnwin.htm
03:01<ill>Look
03:01<ill>Use that
03:01<ill>But make sure you make it "not bootable"
03:01<ill>It just need to be the image, straight up
03:02<ill>I bet that'll work
03:02<jm_>kdas: with grub-install
03:02<kdas>jm_, grub-install /dev/CF ?
03:02<Supaplex>kdas: how's the cf installed now? what device is it? /dev/sda? is it on usb? does your system boot from usb?
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03:02<Supaplex>kdas: cat /proc/partitions to get an idea (and no, don't paste it here)
03:03<jm_>kdas: if that's the real device name
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03:03<yang>Zdravo jm_ !
03:03<kdas>Supaplex, yes it boots from usb my CF disk is connected via usb reader on /dev/sdc1
03:03<jm_>yang: mornin'
03:04<kdas>jm_, grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdc1.
03:04<Supaplex>kdas: check /boot/grub for map something. (hd0) should equal /dev/sdc1. then you can grub-install '(hd0)'
03:04<kdas>Supaplex, check the mapping on the CF disk or host ?
03:05<jm_>kdas: use --recheck
03:05<Supaplex>man grub-install see --recheck eg /boot/grub/device.map
03:06<kdas>Supaplex, i have a /dev/sda but nothing is there except windows partition
03:07<Supaplex>didn't you just say the boot device is /dev/sdc1 ?
03:07<kdas>jm_, its giving me 2 devices on the map one to windows one to CF card is that ok ?
03:08<kdas>Supaplex, host = /dev/sda (hardrive) [linux + windows partitions] /dev/sda = CF
03:08<jm_>kdas: just use --recheck with grub-install
03:08<Supaplex>(hd0) is what grub thinks the bios is at bootup.
03:08<jm_>it will recreate the map file
03:09<kdas>jm_, i did and it recreated with both those options hd0 to /dev/sda and hd1 to /dev/sdc
03:09<kdas>Supaplex, hd0 is my HD
03:09<jm_>kdas: well did it install then?
03:10<kdas>jm_, yes it seems so
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03:10<Supaplex>just make sure the cf says hd0, and install to hd1 or whatever the cf is now.
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03:11<kdas>jm_, it just gives me the contents of my map file and said installation complete. I am guessing the map file is ok like that ?
03:11<stucke>Hey does anyone know how to power on an ATX (ASUS P5Q) motherboard without a power switch?
03:11<kdas>Supaplex, so edit the grub file on my CF ?
03:11<jm_>kdas: uhm why are you concentrating on the map file? if it said it installed, then so it did
03:12<jm_>stucke: 1. don't ask yes/no questions, 2. perhaps a more hardware specific channel will know more, 3. there are options like using your keyboard/USB/serial/ethernet etc. to power it on
03:12<Supaplex>no, don't edit the map file.
03:12<kdas>jm_, i am worried about what Supaplex said "just make sure the cf says hd0, and install to hd1 or whatever the cf is now"
03:12<kdas>Supaplex, i know not the map i am asking about what you said earliar ^^
03:12<Supaplex>/boot/grub/menu.lst
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03:13<jm_>kdas: they will be added to the map file in the order BIOS returns them or somesuch, just edit its config file (menu.lst)
03:13<stucke>jm_: do you know a channel?
03:13<Supaplex>/boot/grub/menu.lst should use (hd0) for what the bios expects at the first boot device.
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03:13<jm_>stucke: isn't there something like #hardware here or on oftc?
03:13<kdas>jm_, Supaplex, and the menu.lst file that i am editing is the CF right ?
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03:14<Supaplex>install and boot can use different values, but you need to know what grub-install is going to reference from the map file to make sure it goes to the right disk/partition etc
03:14<jm_>stucke: etherwake to do it via ethernet (check BIOS it's enabled first)
03:14<stucke>jm_ No there isn't a #hardware
03:14<Supaplex>yes menu.lst on the cf
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03:14<kdas>ok thanks alot both you! let me reboot and test ;)
03:14<stucke>jm_ haha, we'll I'd sure do that if I COULD get into the bios!
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03:15<jm_>stucke: the manual tells you how to do that
03:15<stucke>jm_ I'm trying to find a way to turn on a motherboard without a power switch... so as of right now, I'm not able to get into the bios. I have an ASUS and the manual does'nt say anything about how to do that.
03:15<jm_>stucke: how to get into the BIOS? I have Asus P5K and the manual definitely says how to enter the BIOS
03:16<jm_>I am pretty sure the one for P5Q says too
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03:17<kdas>jm_, Supaplex, umm i just rebooted and it starts with lilo ( i reformated and reinstalled debian to the CF so i guess lilo is in MBR of CF?)
03:17<stucke>jm_: I think you're misunderstanding. Yes, the manual most certainly says how to get into the bios, but it only tells you how to do that after the system is powered on. That "the system is powered on" we could say, is a necessary condition for being able to follow the manual's instructions on how to get into the bios. Unfortunately for me, I'm not able to meet that necessarily pre-condition, e.g., able to power on the system, and hence,
03:17<stucke> I've a bit of trouble in following the manuals instructions on how to get into the bios.
03:17<jm_>kdas: you installed it on /dev/sdc1, not on /dev/sdc, right?
03:17<stucke>Does that make it more clear for you jm_?
03:17<jm_>stucke: in that case you have more severe problem
03:17<kdas>jm_, by it we mean grub ?
03:18<stucke>Nah, come on, people do this all the time. there's like a little bin and you jump it with a screw driver or something, right?
03:18<jm_>kdas: no, you
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03:18<rotciv>what's the version of the etchnhalf kernel i have to install on debian i386, cpu core 2 duo?
03:18<stucke>I thought this was really standard, does no one know which two things you're suppose to touch together?
03:18<jm_>uhm use the power switch on your chasis?
03:19<stucke>jm_: I don't have a chasis.
03:19<kdas>"kdas: you installed it on /dev/sdc1, not on /dev/sdc, right?" it = you means "kdas: you installed YOU on /dev/sdc1, not on /dev/sdc, right?"?
03:19<kdas>jm_, ^^
03:19<jm_>kdas: yes, grub
03:19<kdas>jm_, haha ok thanks, i think so i just did it again allow me to reboot and check again
03:20<kdas>be right back
03:20<jm_>kdas: install it on /dev/hdc
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03:21<kdas>jm_, grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc or /dev/hdc ?
03:21<jm_>kdas: /dev/sdc
03:21<kdas>jm_, are you drunk or tired ?
03:21<kdas>jm_, haha ok one second. i am sure i did that last time but i will check again
03:21<jm_>kdas: why did you ask that?
03:21<rotciv>what is the version of the etchnhalf kernel i have to install on debian i386, cpu core 2 duo? i found this one: linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 - Linux 2.6.24 image on x86
03:22<kdas>jm_, thanks for your help by the way ;)
03:22<kdas>jm_, just the it and hdc thing ;) its just a joke don't take it personally
03:22<kdas>be right back
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03:22<jm_>kdahh yes, I have no idea why I typed hdc, I didn't even notice it when I was checking ym screen to figure out why you were asking me ;)
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03:23<blarson>rotciv: That would work, the 686 version would be faster. As an alternate, you could use amd64.
03:23<jm_>just doing too many things at once
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03:24<rotciv>blarson: hum. using the amd64 on debian i386 sounds like "trouble". it wouldn't cause any trouble?
03:24<kdas>jm_, that seems to do it... can't tell for sure because it is using my grub info from HD but i think it will work now thanks ;)
03:25<jm_>kdas: yeah that's because it probably references (hd0) and that's your disk
03:25<kdas>jm_, yea. ok thanks again
03:25<kdas>time for bed X|
03:25<rotciv>blarson: i found the 686 but here it says that's for P4, P3, P2, PPro and Celeron
03:26<blarson>rotciv: core2 is pentium4.
03:26<rotciv>blarson: hum. there is something i didn't know
03:26<Ikarus>actually it is quite a bit better
03:27<Ikarus>but it is still essentially a 686 yes
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03:27<blarson>rotciv: and can run the amd64 instruction set, so you can install that version instead of i386.
03:27<Ikarus>the core2 is more a P3 deriviate then it is a P4 one, but that is semantics
03:27<ill>SuperMario1776, How is it going?
03:28<Ikarus>please note that amd64 is SLOWER for normal desktop workloads compared to i386
03:28<rotciv>blarson: i was using debian amd64 but i choose to use the i386. so the 686 etchnhalf image is fine?
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03:28<Ikarus>rotciv: should be
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03:29<rotciv>Ikarus: ok. thank you. gonna download it :)
03:29<rotciv>blarson: thank you for helping, blarson
03:30<jm_>rotciv: you won't be able to use iptables if you're using 64bit kernel and 32bit userland for example
03:31<rotciv>jm_: o,o
03:31<rotciv>i was going to download the 686 anyway
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03:35<rotciv>btw, the .xpm icons can be download anywhere?
03:35<rotciv>downloaded*
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03:42<Ninja>!dgamelaunch
03:43<Ninja>what could i use other then dgamelaunch to start a nethack server?
03:44<Ninja>or is that my best option
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03:49<Supaplex>!panic
03:49<dpkg>panic is probably STAY CALM DAMMIT!
03:50<zakame>HAHA
03:52<blarson>!qotd
03:52<dpkg>Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one. See <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already. <qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". at 222 (2008-10-18)
03:52<blarson>!qotd0
03:52<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, qotd167 is <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686. I don't do any image processing, so I think it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel
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03:55<zakame>hehe yeah better replace it with a gimp kernel :)
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03:56<zakame>speaking of kernels, anyone got mrv8k-2.6 kernel working (for netgear wg311v3 wlan) on lenny?
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04:07<tpo>3ssh admin
04:07<tpo>argh
04:07<tpo>$ ssh admin
04:07<tpo>stdin: is not a tty
04:08<tpo>$ cat ~/.ssh/config
04:08<tpo>Host admin
04:08<tpo>ProxyCommand ssh -t root@asdf.ch "vserver admin enter"
04:09<tpo>does anybody know why I get a "stdin: is not a tty" ?
04:09<tpo>when I execute "ssh -t root@asdf.ch "vserver admin enter"" by hand, it works
04:10<tpo>I can also do "ssh -t admin" with the same result
04:10<tpo>?
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05:10<jseakle>Hmm. I'm about to go to sleep, but if anyone sees this I'll check in the morning. Seems slow enough that that should work. I'm trying to install PythonMagick0.8, and though I believe I have the required packages, configure is telling me that I don't have Magick++. I installed libmagick++9-dev using aptitude; all the other search results were virtual. Any ideas? Thanks!
05:10<trueno>Hi! I have installed kernel 2.6.26 and am using iwl3945, but I get lots of messages in kern.log: Oct 20 11:07:00 annapurna kernel: wlan0: CTS protection enabled (BSSID=00:13:f7:92:50:d3)
05:10<trueno>Oct 20 11:07:03 annapurna kernel: wlan0: CTS protection disabled (BSSID=00:13:f7:92:50:d3)
05:10<trueno> Is there a way to get rid of them?
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05:12<jm_>jseakle: check config.log
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05:13<Lethias>Does anyone know where i can find a list of the dependencies for E16
05:14<cahoot>Lethias: aptitude show e16?
05:14<jm_>jseakle: actually, Debian has it packages, use that, and you can check build dependencies in debian/control file
05:15<Lethias>I have the latest e16 downloaded and was planning on compiling it, but i can't seem to find a list of the dep files needed to compile it.
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05:19<padski>my kde splash screen has grown tentacles, and I can't see this little guy ? on konsole. otherwise, its all fine :-)
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05:35<stucke>Hello, I'm having trouble installing wpasupplicant. The error I get when I try to install it is "dpkg: error processing wpasupplicant (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" It says that it depends on libdbus-1-3
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05:36<stucke>How can I install libdbus-1-3? Is it available on the install 1 cd? Or will I have to download it and then burn another cd and then use that cd to isntall libdbus-1-3? And is there something which libdbus-1-3 is dependent on which I will need in order to install it?
05:38<petemc>you dont have network access on your debian machine?
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05:40<jm_>you can use apt-zip for such purposes
05:43<stucke>petemc: nope, no network.
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05:43<stucke>I got libdbus-1-3 installed, but now it's asking for libpcsclite1. So I'm burning that to a cd and using dpkg -i to install it.
05:44<petemc>thats an awkward way to use debian
05:44<stucke>petemc: Well do you know of a better way to do this???
05:45<petemc>see what jm_ said
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06:08<rotciv>how can i check the cpu temperature?
06:08<yang>rotciv: with lm-sensors
06:08<yang>install that
06:09<rotciv>yang: alright :)
06:09<Boko77>:-)
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06:16<rotciv>yang: the lm-sensors is some kinda of applet? how to see the temp using this? oh and my cpu is a core 2 duo (45NM). is it gonna check the right temperature?
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06:17<rotciv>this is gonna check*
06:18<yang>yes, after you install you need to modify lm-sensors , simply run build then it will detect your mobo modules and you can check the temp later refer to /usr/share/doc/lm-sensors
06:18<jm_>you'll need to load kernel modules related to your sensors chip, and coretemp for core2duo
06:18<jm_>sensors-detect shall help
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06:20<rotciv>jm_: yea, i answered yes in every question he asked me. it is finished, the command to see the temp is?
06:21<Torsten_W>sensors
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06:23<rotciv>it says "No sensours found..."
06:23<rotciv>sensors*
06:23<rotciv>i'll try it later...
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06:24<Torsten_W>then your mainboard is not supportet by lm-sensors
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06:24<rgr>Anyone here using gnome tracker tool? Documentation is thin on the ground and it doesn't seem to work very well. e.g I search for a file name "file.c" and its returning all files with "file" in it or in the name - except for the actual file.c itself! It's not in a hidden directory either (the default ought to be to include hidden directories too IMO anyway).
06:25<rotciv>Torsten_W: maybe =/
06:25<cahoot>rotciv: laptop?
06:26<rotciv>cahoot: nope. c2d e7200 + gigabyte g31m-s2l
06:26<jm_>rotciv: load coretemp module if you have it
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06:26<Torsten_W>rotciv: etch?
06:27<rotciv>Torsten_W: yup, etchnhalf 2.6.24 kernel
06:27<Torsten_W>u need a newer lm-sensors
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06:30<rotciv>well... i'm still a noob to the linux, better forget about the temp. i check on the "the one i can't say the name" or through the BIOS
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06:33<stevem_>Hi, can I do an "updatedb" - take a copy of the list it makes... do something... then updatedb again and compare what files have been added/remove since last time?
06:33<Torsten_W>why not?
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06:54<john>Hello, could someone please tell me how I can install the kernel source files for the debian lenny kernel, and insure that they are properly configured?
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06:58<Torsten_W>john: are the headers not enougth for you?
06:58<john>Torsten_W: I wouldn't know, I'm simply repeating the output of a /var/log file
06:59<john>I'm trying to install a nvidia driver.
06:59<Torsten_W>john: then u only need the headers
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06:59<john>How do I install the headers?
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06:59<Torsten_W>john: so install it with apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
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07:00<john>Torsten_W: Thanks!
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07:00<rotciv>anyone in here have intel onboard GPU working on debian etch kernel 2.6.24 (etchnhalf)? i need to get mine working...
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07:00<john>By the way, you wouldn't happent to know how I can bench mark a new system on linux? Are there programs for that?
07:00<Torsten_W>rotciv: which gpu?
07:01<rotciv>Torsten_W: intel gma 3100 (not x3100)
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07:01<Torsten_W>rotciv: i think, u need a newer xorg for this chipset
07:01<rotciv>Torsten_W: i'm afraid of the "newer" =/
07:02<rotciv>Torsten_W: is it easy to newbies?
07:02<Torsten_W>rotciv: u could try to install lenny
07:02<Torsten_W>or update to lenny, but lenny is not final yet
07:03<rotciv>Torsten_W: last time people here suggested to upgrade from lenny and after the upgrade i just had trouble and more trouble then had to reinstall etch =/
07:03<rotciv>...upgrade to lenny*
07:03<themill>rotciv: have you tried the xserver-xorg-video-intel package from etchnhalf
07:03<rotciv>themill: yup
07:03<themill>:(
07:03<rotciv>=(
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07:05<Torsten_W>the best combination for this chipset would be xorg-server 1.5, mesa 7.2 and xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.4.2
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07:06<cheikhsow>hi everyone
07:06<rotciv>Torsten_W: but it is not that easy to do, eh?
07:06<Torsten_W>not with etch
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07:07<rotciv>i'll wait for lenny stable then
07:08<Torsten_W>rotciv: the packages above are not in lenny
07:08<rotciv>oh... :(
07:08<rotciv>sarge?
07:08<rotciv>oops, sid?
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07:10<Torsten_W>rotciv: also not, these packages are in experimental
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07:10<rotciv>damn :(
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07:29<blal>obama is a republican spy
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07:32<noflash> /ignore -replies blal
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07:33<john>Hello, I just installed a new system and I'm having trouble with the sound. No matter how high I turn it up it's still barely audible.
07:36<john>Anyone know how I can fix that?
07:36<cahoot>john: speaker-test -t wav -c2 - no joy?
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07:37<john>apt-cache doesn't find speaker-test
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07:38<cahoot>tried just execute it?
07:38<cahoot>else install alsa-utils
07:39<blal>yep, alsa-utils
07:39<john>no joy with speaker test
07:39<john>still can barely hear anything
07:39<cahoot>john: no error at least?
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07:39<john>no, no errors.
07:40<Ninja>Error opening terminal: xterm ???
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07:40<cahoot>john: is this a laptop using snd-hda-intel or what?
07:40<john>nope, it's an ASUS P5Q
07:40<cahoot>john: cat /proc/asound/modules
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07:41<john>It's working now... The front speakers weren't turned on in alsamixer.
07:41<john>But I had to install alsa-utils to get alsamixer... Thanks.
07:41<blal>lulz was just about to suggest alsamixer
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07:45<rotciv>cya
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07:46<lestat>!wine
07:46<dpkg>rumour has it, wine is packaged in the 'wine' package. http://www.winehq.com/, #winehq (irc.freenode.net). Stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. A not so buggy anymore alternative win32 API, or a tasty alcoholic beverage.
07:47<lestat>hi... I´m instaled a math program in my wine. But it´s don´t do 3d graphics. So, how I know what´s libraries my program needs?
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07:52<zakame>!cpan
07:52<dpkg>i heard cpan is the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network at http://www.perl.com/CPAN/, or perl -MCPAN -eshell, or it's probably better to use dh-make-perl --cpan
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08:11<john>Hello, could anyone tell me the easiest way to mount an external hard drive?
08:11<Torsten_W>pmount /dev/foo as user
08:11<john>I know how to mount it but, how do you find the device after you've pluged it in?(USB)
08:11<jurg>dmesg
08:11<jm_>cat /proc/partitions
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08:12<john>jurg: dmesg doesn't tell you where it's at, does it?
08:12<jurg>john: Yes it does.
08:13<jm_>yes it does
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08:13<jurg>john: sd 29:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
08:13<jurg>So obviously at sdc
08:13<john>Mine says sdb, but I had to use mount /dev/sdb1 to mount it.
08:13<jurg>sdb is the root device, not a partition.
08:14<john>Oh I see... Thanks!
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08:18<rutski>I can't figure how to get this headset working :(
08:18<rutski>the speakers on this machine seem to work; as per speaker-test
08:19-!-mode/#debian [+l 376] by debhelper
08:19<rutski>but the headset just doesn't go; no matter what I do the sound _always_ comes out of the main speakers
08:19<cahoot>no headset control in alsamixer?
08:19<rutski>cahoot: not that I can tell; but there's a lot of stuff there
08:19<rutski>also, there are two different places on the machine to plug in the headset
08:19<rutski>I've tried both
08:20<rutski>but it doesn't even matter I don't think; because the sound always comes out of the main speakers anyway
08:20<rutski>oh, gah; I should just unplug those then
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08:22<rutski>yep, that worked
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08:40<Kainus>Hi! people :D good evening :D
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10:08<trueno>Hi!
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10:09<trueno>Anyone is using iwl3945 and 2.6.26? Is there a way to get rid of those CTS protection enabled/disabled messages?
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10:12<jthomas>is anyone able to run VirtualBox OSE with 2.6.26-1-686 ? I get the error "VERR_VM_DRIVER_VERSION_MISMATCH" and I've tried installing what it asks for (# module-assistant auto-install virtualbox-ose) but it still fails to start my virtualmachine
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10:14<themill>jthomas: did you do that? Are the modules installed? Did you reinsert the modules?
10:14<jthomas>yes and yes
10:15<jthomas>oh not sure if i modprobed them
10:15<jthomas>never had to in the past if i recall...
10:15<themill>jthomas: you'll need to modprobe -r first
10:15<jthomas>ok i did that, no results returned
10:16<jthomas>well what would the module be named?
10:16<jthomas>i imagine -r means to remove an older one, but i need a name for it
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10:18<themill>vboxdrv isn't it?
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10:19<jthomas>aarg, that seems to have done it. themill you save me all the time, thanks AGAIN :)
10:19<themill>:)
10:19<jthomas>how does one develop the fu that you fu ??
10:20<themill>jthomas: watching and reading. I've never touched vbox in my life, but I've now helped a few people with that one.
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10:21<jthomas>so, just need to spend more time on my computer eh? :) does 'debian from scratch' teach a lot? is it worth my time, or should i look into LFS instead?
10:21<themill>jthomas: can you check this before I feed it to dpkg: aptitude install module-assistant virtualbox-ose-source && m-a prepare && m-a a-i virtualbox-ose && modprobe -r vboxdrv && modprobe vboxdrv
10:21<jthomas>in one line, that is what I did yes.
10:21<jthomas>want me to rerun it?
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10:22<themill>jthomas: no, if it looks right, that's fine.
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10:24<jthomas>you may want to add, "echo vboxdrv >> /etc/modules"
10:25<themill>jthomas: well... that's not about fixing vbox for lenny though. That's a more general setup thing. Doesn't starting vbox do that anyway?
10:25<jthomas>not sure, but if i had to modprobe it, that tells me its not done automatically, correct?
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10:26<themill>jthomas: you had to remove the already modprobe'd version which was the old version and then insert the new one.
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10:26<jthomas>but it would survive a reboot?
10:26<jthomas>(i have no idea)
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10:27<themill>nfc. I would expect that starting the vbox process would modprobe for you. You evidently had the wrong (old) version of the module loaded already, and it got loaded some how
10:28<jthomas>and i have rebooted a number of times (work computer, it gets shut off each night and this has been an issue for a week almost)
10:28<trueno>Anyone is using iwl3945 and 2.6.26? Is there a way to get rid of those CTS protection enabled/disabled messages?
10:28<jthomas>but, it wasn't in /etc/modules before, so...
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10:28<jthomas>!iwl3945
10:28<dpkg>[iwlwifi] the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets, included in Debian kernels from 2.6.23. Add <non-free sources>, then "aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi". "modprobe iwl3945" or "modprobe iwl4965" depending on your device's chipset. See http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi (particularly if switching from ipw3945). See also <wmaster0>, <wireless tree>, <iwlwifi etch>, <iwlagn>. #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net
10:28<themill>jthomas: yep. So it gets loaded for you automatically.
10:29<jthomas>trueno: what is a CTS message? what does it read?
10:29<themill>dpkg: virtualbox lenny is <reply> To stop virtualbox complaining about having the wrong version of the kernel module, you will have to build your own using module-assistant: aptitude install module-assistant virtualbox-ose-source && m-a prepare && m-a a-i virtualbox-ose && modprobe -r vboxdrv && modprobe vboxdrv. Also keep an eye on bug #502375.
10:29<dpkg>okay, themill
10:29<jthomas>themill: thanks again
10:30<jthomas>themill that bug number isn't a link, should it be? it makes me join that #channel
10:30<themill>jthomas: that's your irc client at work. For any bug number, you can go to bugs.debian.org/<bugnumber>. (my irc client rewrites that automatically for me to a url)
10:31<themill>jthomas: There's probably not enough room in that factoid to expand it.
10:32<jthomas>i don't see anything at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/#502375 nor http://www.debian.org/Bugs/502375
10:33<themill>http://bugs.debian.org/502375
10:34<themill>dpkg virtualbox lenny =~ s,#502375,http://bugs.debian.org/502375,
10:34<dpkg>themill: OK
10:34<themill>jthomas: perhaps it does fit. Didn't complain about it being too long, at least.
10:34<oipunx>what's the command to backup a hard drive to another?
10:35<jthomas>rsync -av /mounted/point/firstdrive /mount/point/second ?
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10:35<koollman>oipunx: there are many ways to do that.
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10:36<oipunx>i lol my friend showed me the other day but i totally forgot
10:37<trueno>jthomas: Oct 20 16:33:02 annapurna kernel: wlan0: CTS protection enabled (BSSID=00:13:f7:92:50:d3)
10:37<trueno>Oct 20 16:33:11 annapurna kernel: wlan0: CTS protection disabled (BSSID=00:13:f7:92:50:d3)
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10:37<oipunx>i just wanna make an exact backup of my archive drive to another
10:37<trueno>jthomas: Any clue?
10:38<trueno>oipunx: binary or just the files?
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10:38<oipunx>just like movies, muzik
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10:40<trueno>oipunx: (cd /data; tar cf - .) | tar xvf -
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10:48<jthomas>i'd use rsync to create a copy; the tar will create a .tar file (like a .zip file)
10:49<jthomas>trueno: no, sorry, no idea about that message, have you tried google ?
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10:49<jthomas>oipunx if you did it in a terminal/console, the [up arrow] key will go through your history of commands
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11:14<ebzzry>Hi! Is there a way to make aptitude ignore some specific packages? For example, I have some "broken" packages, and I don't want aptitude to suggest to me to uninstall/repair those broken packages.
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11:15<themill>ebzzry: you're doing it all wrong if you have broken packages. What are you trying to do?
11:16<avtobiff>yesterday i changed the PSU and thermal paste (CPU) in my computer. after all the work, debian won't boot. i had some old DSL-cd lying (linux 2.4 old) which wouldn't boot. I tried with Debian installer "Etch" which booted and was able to mount the drive correctly from the shell. wth has gone wrong? is this a grub2 issue somehow?
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11:16<avtobiff>and why would grub change because of this? (the disk is sata connected and the cable wasn't disconnected or moved)
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11:19<rgr>can someone recommend a decent gui app to set up my dvb usb card? I ahev compiled and loaded the necessary modules. I'm just looking for an admin interface.
11:19<ebzzry>themill: No, afaik. I was able to install Scsh on my amd64 system with the help of 3rd-party scripts. Scsh now runs on my system. The problem is that it's reported as broken. BTW, Scsh's .deb file(s) are not available to 64-bit systems.
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11:23<ebzzry>themill: For example, if you go to http://packages.debian.org/etch/scsh-0.6 you can see that amd64 is not listed.
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11:24<themill>ebzzry: so what did you do?
11:25<ebzzry>themill: I used --force-architecture and used getlibs
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11:26<themill>:(
11:26*themill wishes all the --force options would go away (or the users that think they are good would go back to redhat)
11:27<ebzzry>Scsh is a necessity to me.
11:27<themill>compile it properly yourself?
11:27<ebzzry>themill: It won't compile either.
11:27<avtobiff>could it be grub?
11:27<themill>Bastardising apt/dpkg is not on your route to happiness.
11:28<ebzzry>themill: Maybe, but as I said earlier, I need that application.
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11:31<johns>any idea how totem works when there are multiple flash players installed? I have swfdec, gnash and ffmpeg installed, and I'm getting errors trying to play some youtube videos
11:31<johns>the error seems to be coming from ffmpeg
11:31<johns>and basically I'm wondering if it's trying all of them or quitting as soon as it encounters an error
11:32<cheikhsow>someone can tell me what's the meaning of this command: openssl req new -x509 -days 365 -key server.key -out server.crt i want a sentence
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11:47<cheikhsow>i want to change the name of my computer can someone tell me how
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11:50<OdyX>cheikhsow: look into /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts and such
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11:54<suiside>if you want the changes to take effect immidiately make the change first in /etc/hostname, then use the /bin/hostname utility ("hostname new_name")
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11:59<cheikhsow>i do that but it doesn't work
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12:03<kapil>ebzzry: use an x86 schroot and install scsh in that. it will lead to greater happiness.
12:03<ebzzry>kapil: How can I do that?
12:04<kapil><shamless_plug>http://linuxgazette.net/150/kapil.html </shameless_plug>
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12:05<ebzzry>kapil: Thanks. I'm going there now.
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12:06<kapil>ebzzry: kmap pointed out that there is an "--arch" switch required for debootstrap.
12:06<ebzzry>kapil: Hmm.
12:07<ebzzry>kapil: How is debootstrap different from cdebootstrap?
12:07<stew>ebzzry: cdebootstrap is written in c, debootstrap is a shell script
12:08<ebzzry>But do they achive the same goals?
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12:09<stew>ebzzry: they are supposed to behave identically
12:09<ebzzry>stew: OK
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12:12<themill>ebzzry: sorry, afk. Does the patch attached to #414931 fix the ftbfs for you?
12:13<ebzzry>themill: If you're talking about this one http://www.nabble.com/Bug-414931:-scsh-0.6:-patch-for-amd64-support-td19868287.html then no, it didn't fix it.
12:13<ebzzry>It stops at the dpkg-buildpackage phase.
12:14<themill>"stops"
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12:15<ebzzry>themill: Yes, stops.
12:15<ebzzry>themill: It does not finish successfully.
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12:16<ebzzry>kapil: BTW, how long would it take for the debootstrap command to finish?
12:17<ebzzry>kapil: To be more precise, how much data (say in MB), will it fetch?
12:17<adb>~ > 100 MB
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12:22<ebzzry>adb: OK. Thanks.
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12:22<adb>np
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12:23<ebzzry>By the way, is aptitude included in the debootstrap result?
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12:27<john>Hello, is there a debian package for a cpu temperature monitor program?
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12:29<phast>hi all
12:29<adb>john: apt-cache search sensors
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12:32<john>abd: I se xsensors, xmbmon, wmtemp, and wmgtemp, and sensord
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12:38<mihkel>Hi. I need some help to configure ssmtp
12:38<mihkel>I want it to be able to deliver local mail to my gmail account
12:39<mihkel>http://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP <- I used this howto as reference
12:39<mihkel>when I send mail to root with: mail root
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12:40<weasel>I don't think that ssmtp is the right MTA for what you want.
12:40<mihkel>it literally deliveri it to root
12:40<weasel>and no, I don't have the time to help you pick one.
12:40<mihkel>:)
12:40<mihkel>I used postfix before
12:40<mihkel>but it looked kind of overkill for these simple tasks
12:41<mihkel>anyway
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12:41<mihkel>ssmtp sends mail to gmail mail server To: root not To: me@gmail.com
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12:44<mihkel> /etc/ssmtp/revaliases contains http://pastebin.ca/1231988
12:45<Halitech>hi folks, wondering if anyone knows of a good how to for setting up file sharing between 2 debian machines that both have XFCE for the DE. I would prefer to use NFS as it will only be 2 debian machines that are sharing files
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12:50<Nemoder>Halitech: I just use samba and smbnetfs to browse shares with thunar
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12:51<Halitech>Nemoder, I'm assuming samba on my desktop (main system with all the files) and smbnetfs on the laptop (client), would I be right?
12:51<Nemoder>both have to run samba, you can use smbnetfs on whichever system you want to do the browsing
12:51<Halitech>Nemoder, I should be able to install both on both systems so if I do happen to have something on the laptop I could grab it from the desktop
12:53<Halitech>Nemoder, is it smbnetfs or just smbfs?
12:54<Nemoder>smbnetfs in lenny
12:54<Nemoder>might not be in etch
12:54<Halitech>Nemoder, okay, I'm still on Etch n half right now
12:54<Halitech>I found smbfs but no smbnetfs
12:55<Nemoder>well you can use smbmount but I found it has problems if the network is disconnected
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12:59<Halitech>Nemoder, ok, will go with smbfs and samba and see how things work out
13:00<Nemoder>also the downside is you have to mount individual shares, with smbnetfs you just link the whole network to a directory and can browse entire domains
13:00<mihkel>So there is no one who uses ssmtp?
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13:01<Halitech>Nemoder, well, I only plan on sharing 1 folder so thats not much of a big deal
13:01<nickdaly>does anyone know how to disable the vertical-scrolling feature of a synaptics touchpad?
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13:18<stew>nickdaly: the option is VertEdgeScroll. "man synaptics"
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13:21<Yar>hi. can i somehow install adobe flash 10?
13:22<Yar>i hard tried to force installation of 32 bit and now flash doesn't work even
13:22<Yar>9 version
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13:24<Yar>or you all don't use flash because of ideology? )
13:24<zulu>what are the option in the 2.6.26 kernel to get sata support (I have an asus p4p800 with ICH5) ?
13:25<cahoot>doesn't the kernel already support that?
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13:25<zulu>cahoot if you thick the right boxes I suppose :)
13:26<cahoot>why not use a debiankernel?
13:26<zulu>to get a custom kernel
13:26<dooglus>Yar: I tried the betas of flash 10, but they were dreadful. I've not tried the release, but I doubt it's any better
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13:29<Yar>dooglus, i didn't say that i have 64 bit. nspluginwrapper can't mange it because there isn't libnss3.
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13:30<Yar>the ones who installed it on 32 bit said that it is better then 9th version
13:31<Nemoder>Yar: if it's missing libs you can try to manually put them in /emul/ia32-linux/libs/
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13:31<Nemoder>but you'll have to extract the 32bit versions manually
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13:33<macrohard_>hi
13:33<macrohard_>ne one expert in xen
13:33<macrohard_>?
13:33<Yar>adobe promised that they would make flashplayer for 64 bit... but when...
13:33<macrohard_>my domU stops at EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
13:33<macrohard_>Adding 131064k swap on /dev/hda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:131064k
13:33<macrohard_>EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal
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13:34<stew>there is a flashplugin-nonfree package which correctly sets up a 32 but flash player for 64 bit iceweasel
13:34<voicu>Hi, is there a package for the fglrx driver or do I have to install it manually? I'm using debian 4.0
13:34<macrohard_>do ne one idea abt xen ??
13:34<stew>macrohard_: what does "ne one expert" mean?
13:35<macrohard_>stew if any one expert in solving problem of xen
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13:35<macrohard_>or he fased same problem and can help me out
13:35<macrohard_>:)
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13:36<macrohard_>faced*
13:37<Yar>stew, there is only 9th version, but i wanted install 10th
13:37<stew>Yar: there is one for 10 in experimental
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13:38<Yar>stew, yet? it's very fast
13:38<voicu>where can I find a list of repositories?
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13:39<stew>voicu: /msg dpkg mirrors
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13:39<stew>Yar: i'm not sure I understand
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13:40<kdas>hi everyone again, i am having trouble with installing grub on a CF disk. i already tried grub-install --recheck /dev/sdd1 and it installs but it dosent seem to boot. any ideas?
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13:41<stew>kdas: do you have a bootlaoder installed on /dev/sdd that would switch to the bootloader on /dev/sdd1 ?
13:41<voicu>stew: is there only one official repo? No additional packages? apt-get can't find some essential packages on the primary mirror
13:42<voicu>stew: ok, not so essential but still: flashplugin-nonfree, no fglrx package and others
13:42<stew>voicu: there are many official repos which all contain the same packages. what essential packages are you having trouble finding?
13:42<stew>voicu: /msg dpkg non-free
13:42<kdas>stew, i have /boot/grub and kernel and all on sdd1 and i did a grub-install --recheck /dev/sdd is that what you are asking ?
13:42<macrohard_>this is the paste of my domU stucks at http://rafb.net/p/SZEN0E23.html
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13:43<macrohard_>anyone can solve this problem i am thankful to him
13:43<stew>kdas: yeah, i guess. so you've run both "grub-install --recheck /dev/sdd1" and "grub-install --recheck /dev/sdd"?
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13:43<john>Trying to install Call of Duty 4 demo under wine: getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/19640
13:44<kdas>stew, i did /dev/sdd1 first but it didn't boot because no mbr so i did it on dev/sdd the next time. do i have to do it to both sdd and sdd1 ?
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13:44<stew>kdas: no, you only have to do it in /dev/sdd
13:45<macrohard_>this is the paste of my domU stucks at http://rafb.net/p/SZEN0E23.html
13:45<macrohard_>anyone can solve this problem i am thankful to him
13:45<kdas>stew, ok well i did that
13:45<stew>kdas: and do you get an error while booting? or what?
13:45<voicu>stew: I still can't get flashplugin-nonfree, I put "main contrib non-free" at the end of the repo URL, what else?
13:46<stew>voicu: what version of debian are you running?
13:46<voicu>4.0, etch
13:46<themill>dpkg: tell voicu about adobe flash
13:46<stew>judd: versions flashplugin-nonfree
13:46<judd>stew: flashplugin-nonfree: 1:1.4~bpo40+1 (etch-backports/contrib) 1:1.7.2 (sid/contrib) 1:1.7.2+fp10.20080811 (experimental/contrib)
13:46<stew>voicu: its not in etch, get it from backports.org: /msg dpkg bpo
13:46<themill>voicu: you need to get it from backports.org or from dmm
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13:47<kdas>stew, well when i test it on my host machine it messes up because hd0 is my HD adn on the device i am trying to get up i can't see whats going on because its a router
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13:47<stew>kdas: can you be more specific than "it messes up"? does it give you an error?
13:48<kdas>stew, it loads the menu.lst from my host machine and then it gives me error # 7 i believe
13:51<macrohard_>this is the paste of my domU stucks at http://rafb.net/p/SZEN0E23.html
13:52<kdas>stew, i don't have a device.map on my CF grub dir could that be the problem?
13:52<stew>kdas: certainly
13:53<kdas>stew, haha ok so i need to point hd0 to /dev/hd0
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13:55<kdas>stew, here goes test #9954 ... one second
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13:57<kdas>stew, i think it would be better if you just guide me through this step by step so we don't miss anything like the device.map etc
13:57<stew>kdas: /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz
13:58<stew>kdas: you are probably just missing the --root-directory option to grub-install
13:58<stew>kdas: are you running grub-install from inside a chroot? or from the host system?
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13:59<kdas>stew, host
13:59<kdas>stew, i can do it from chroot?
13:59<stew>kdas: yeah, you can do it after chrooting into your target system and mounting the target system's /boot
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14:01<kdas>stew, /boot is on /
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14:02<kdas>stew, do i need the --root-directory option if i install grub when i chroot ?
14:02<Dr34m3xpl0>list
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14:06<amir>hi every body
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14:07<amir>hi
14:07<stew>kdas: no
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14:08<kdas>stew, when i chroot i don't have any /dev/sdX or hdX
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14:08<stew>kdas: --bind mount /dev before you chroot
14:08<stew>kdas: do the same with /proc
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14:09<stew>(or "mount /proc" after you chroot)
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14:09<kdas>stew, if i do the mount /proc then that will load the /dev as well ?
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14:10<kdas>stew, the root-directory opion got it to work thanks
14:10<Lektron>is there a way to set a verbose mode on init/telinit for troubleshooting?
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14:19<voicu>thanks stew and themill for the help earlier
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14:31<chalkie>hey guys, im in need of some help if possible, now i have a VPS with debian, but i want to be able to log into a site from there with an explorer, is this possible? maybe using vnc or somekind of client like that
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14:34<nickdaly>stew: thanks!
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15:00<vecinity>where can i find a perl users channel ?
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15:00<stew>vecinity: #perl on irc.freenode.net
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15:03<vecinity>thanks
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15:10<Lektron>anybody know of a way to set a verbose mode on init/telinit for troubleshooting?
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15:56<sdps>I just installed mysql and am looking for a simple interface for it so I can begin experimenting. Something to make tables, input information, like.... recipes or car parts or contacts or book information.. is there anything like that?
15:57<yang>sdps: phpmyadmin
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15:59<MikiN>Hi all. Can anyone tell me if / how I can load firmware for my zd1211rw wireless while installing using current netinst?
16:00<MikiN>I tried the procedure in the install guide but never get asked if i want to add firmware.
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16:01<andreit>Hello. I would like to submit a new package to the repository. What is the procedure?
16:02<andreit>Thank you, I have found Debian New Maintainers' Guide
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16:05<sdps>yang: Ok, I've got it, thanks much! /nod
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16:06<ikono>hi
16:06<ikono>quit
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16:12<johnfg>hey folks
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16:12<johnfg>synaptic installed kde 3.5.9 instead of 4.1.2.
16:12<johnfg>Do I need to get the latest from a different repo?
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16:13<johnfg>jthomas: are you here?
16:14<johnfg>Any help for the kde question?
16:14<johnfg>I'm running lenny, btw.
16:14<path>as far as I know 4.X is only available on Sid and Experimental
16:14<path>for lenny there are only backports
16:14<path>!kde4
16:14<dpkg>rumour has it, kde4 is a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4 packages are likely to be made. (For lenny backports, see http://kde4.debian.net/) See http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/06/08/lets-go-for-kde-359-in-lenny/ Experimental packages for KDE 4.1 are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde, not #debian. See <kde version>.
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16:19<johnfg>path, Thanks! Gotta run but will be back later.
16:20<path>np johnfg :-)
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16:35<kdas>?
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16:54<weasel>dannys_: turn that off
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17:27<rotciv>what's the diff among compiz, beryl and compiz-fusion?
17:28<miksuh>WRF.. 225 RC-bugs again, it just was under 190... Well ofcourse it's good those are fixed
17:28<miksuh>WRF = WTF
17:28<deniz>rotciv, beryl is discontinued and compiz-fusion I THINK is a combination of the compiz and beryl projects
17:29<amphi>beryl is dead; compiz-fusion is compiz + ports of beryl plugins, + other plugins
17:29<stew>beryl was originally a fork of compiz before they were merged
17:29<rotciv>so compiz-fusion is better?
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17:30<petern>so what happened to all the theming stuff that still appears on things like gnome-look?
17:30<amphi>rotciv: it has more plugins - a few are actually useful
17:30<amphi>petern: emerald works with compiz
17:31<rotciv>amphi: get it. to install compiz-fusion i can use the etch-backports? the bot in here can't tell me something about it?
17:31<petern>ah, so emerald is not obsolete
17:32<amphi>rotciv: if you're on etch, and there are backported packages, I would think so
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17:32<amphi>petern: well, sorta - it's not maintained, but no replacement has appeared yet, so...
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17:33<rotciv>amphi: great! the problem is that i don't have my intel GPU onboard working here. using vesa compiz-fusion works?
17:33<amphi>I believe it's tweaked when necessary, when relevant bits of compiz change, but that's about it
17:33<amphi>nope
17:33<amphi>which intel?
17:34<rotciv>gma 3100
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17:35<amphi>that should work fine with the intel X driver
17:36<amphi>I have a similar card, but I'm on testing
17:38<rotciv>amphi: i already tried xserver-xorg video intel but didn't work and i'm too newbie to upgrade from etch to lenny -- last time i did it, it broke all the system and i had to reinstall etch.
17:38<amphi>heh
17:38<amphi>you could try etch 'n a half
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17:39<rotciv>amphi: yea. i upgraded the kernel to the etchnhalf 2.6.24
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17:39<amphi>rotciv: and xorg, and xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
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17:40<rotciv>amphi: only the kernel
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17:42<chealer>rotciv: ask Wikipedia
17:43<rotciv>chealer: that's what i'm doing
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17:46<rotciv>i was just wondering if ( http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html ) has something to do with intel onboard GPU on linux
17:47<amphi>rotciv: no, no need for that
17:47<rotciv>mmm k
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17:49<husaini>hi
17:50<petern>hmm, i wonder how metacity's compositing is these days
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17:51<rgr>I am thinking of buying a hauppage dvb card. What special things do I need to consider so that the remote will work?
17:51<chealer>rotciv: it does. xf86-video-intel is upstream's name for xserver-xorg-video-intel
17:51<rotciv>chealer: then it doesn't 'cuz i already tried the xserver-xorg-video-intel :(
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17:52<chealer>rotciv: it doesn't what?
17:52<rotciv>chealer: it doesn't work here
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17:55<cesurasean>woo hooo mepis is fun
17:55<cesurasean>sure beats the problems the debian installer had with ethernet cards
17:56<cesurasean>anyone here a mepis pro?
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17:56<diego_>hi
17:57<cesurasean>hello diego_
17:57<diego_>hi
17:57<cesurasean>are you having any problems diego_?
17:58<diego_>i'd like to know where hdparm save the config
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17:59<diego_>because i've given only 1time the command hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda
17:59<adb>/etc/rc.local ?
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18:00<diego_>and now it keep always the settings without an init.d or manually script
18:00<diego_>nothing in etc/rc
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18:02<diego_>i don't really know where it save that command it's just a question...it works anyway
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18:03<cesurasean>have you tried using --help on the program?
18:03<cesurasean>or google?
18:03<diego_>yes
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18:04<diego_>in ubuntu for example i've wrote a script on boot
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18:05<diego_>i want to say why in debian i've done anything
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18:06<themill>diego_: in debian you have to manually stick your settings in /etc/default/hdparm or /etc/hdparm.conf
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18:08<diego_>it's strange but i have only used the command hdparm in shell one time and than it keep without any hdparm
18:08<adb>/etc/amp/event.d/20hdparm /etc/udev/hdparm.rules
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18:09<diego_>nothing here too i've already searched
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18:11<diego_>ok find thaks it's in /etc/apm/event.d/20hdparm
18:11<diego_>thanks
18:11<adb>08 Oct 21 00:07:42 <adb> /etc/amp/event.d/20hdparm /
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18:14<diego_>why hdparm use this directory instead of hdparm.config? thank you
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18:16<diego_>what is event.d ?
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18:19<diego_>there is a www link to read for understanding the need of /event.d dir instead of normal /etc/ .........sorry for my bad english :P
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18:23<carmelu>ciao
18:23<carmelu>hi
18:23<carmelu>!list
18:23<dpkg>one warez list being sent to carmelu
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18:24<pi_>..
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18:28<diego_>thank you to all, time to sllep now ..bye
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18:38<krisso>guys, when i select a file and hold down shift then select another the files in between wont get marked.. where can i set up that behaviour?
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18:41<chealer>krisso: if that's possible, that will depend on the software in question.
18:41<krisso>hmm
18:41<krisso>well i use gnome
18:42<krisso>and i want it to work in all apps
18:42<krisso>from file explorer
18:42<deniz_>does any1 no of a good firestarter alternative for GNOME and not KDE or anything else (I need a GUI) im asking because development for firestarter has ceased and it has a major bug
18:42<krisso>to mp3 player with standard ui lists
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18:43<krisso>chealer, any suggestions?
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18:44<chealer>krisso: no, it depends on the application. at best you could do that for all GTK+ apps, for example.
18:44<krisso>yeah
18:44<krisso>it works with alt+shift
18:44<krisso>but thats strange
18:44<krisso>as i only want shift to make range selections
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18:54<rotciv>is it possible to make the Avant Window Navigator (AWN) run with the VESA driver? =X
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18:57<dmoerner>no
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18:59<rotciv>alright, thank you
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19:01<laflak>adios
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19:07<dmoerner>the new targeted v generic initramfs question in the dailies is quite nice
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19:20<client>i cannot seem to remote connect to my debian from a PC on the same network because of protocal errors (code 0x1104)...
19:20<client>can someon help me
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19:38<Kraftzwerk>why is it that on my lenny KDE 3.5.9 desktop the sub pixel hinting option for font rendering is grayed out in KDE's control center?
19:38<Kraftzwerk>so far, google did not throw up anything conclusive
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19:40<eljefe>today i found something on the debian wiki about 'simple-ccd' to create a cusom Debian ISO, but now i cannot find this page. Anyone know what I am talking about?
19:41<abrotman>!ccd
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19:41<abrotman>!cdd
19:41<dpkg>Have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD
19:41<abrotman>that one?
19:41<eljefe>aah yes that is it, thanks !! i was going crazy!
19:42<eljefe>dpkg just said it was bigger than a breadbox when i asked. thanks bot
19:42<dpkg>eljefe: You are moron #23
19:42<eljefe>well YOU'RE #24
19:42<rotciv>rofl
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19:43<rotciv>can i upgrade from etch to lenny downloading the lenny .iso?
19:43<rotciv>and installing of course
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19:44<eljefe>hmm never tried but unless it has the apps, i would fear it...
19:44<eljefe>it may remove a lot of stuff you want
19:44<eljefe>but, if you put it in the sources.list it might work
19:44*eljefe basically has no idea
19:45<rotciv>=(
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19:46<abrotman>rotciv: why would you? just dist-upgrade
19:47<abrotman>i mean you can .. but you'd probably want to still have http apt sources
19:47<rotciv>last time i dist-upgrade from etch to lenny it broke all the system :(
19:49-!-mode/#debian [+l 346] by debhelper
19:49<rotciv>my internet connection isn't good, it download 30KBps and that day i downloaded 700mb (took 7~8 hours) and the system broke
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19:50<rotciv>now i'm traumatized =/
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19:52*simonrvn DCC SENDs rotciv some free counselling
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19:56<rotciv>simonrvn: what did u try to do? o,o
19:56*rotciv is a noob to the IRC too =/
19:56<blarson>rotciv: Just put the lenny CD in your sources.list before a lenny http source, then dist-upgrade.
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19:59<rotciv>blarson: put the lenny CD in my sources.list with my current system or after have the lenny installed? =S
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20:01*abrotman doesn't see how the CD will differ ..
20:01<rotciv>neither do i
20:03<blarson>rotciv: With your current system, before upgrading.
20:04<blarson>It's just another source of packages when using it for upgrade.
20:04<blarson>(and package sources are used in the order they are in sources.list)
20:05<rotciv>i'll wait till lenny be released as stable =/
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20:08<shze>how can i find the errorfs function in the x server source code resp. in the debian src debs?
20:09<dmoerner>grep? looking at the line numbers gdb tells you in the backtrace?
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20:10<shze>dmoerner: i dont have a backtrace, but grep could help.. thanks
20:10<simonrvn>rotciv: nothing, just pretending to send you some counselling =)
20:10<rotciv>simonrvn: oh :P
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20:28<shze>which x.org packages do i miss searching for the errorfs function? i grepped in xorg and xorg-server src debs, but i find it only in changelogs?
20:30<abrotman>the man page?
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20:31<shze>No manual entry for errorfs
20:32*abrotman isn't getting it
20:32<shze>abrotman: what do you mean? how should i search the man page?
20:32<abrotman>you're looking for a man page for errorfs ?
20:33<abrotman>i don't have one here .. and apt-file search errorfs returns nothing
20:33<shze>i am looking for the function within the x server. man errorfs results in no manual entry..
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20:40<abrotman>shze: can you find it with google ?
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20:43<Supaplex>I have a fairly complex system running on 32bit (server/etch) and I'm upgrading hardware to amd64. Is there a clean way to upgrade w/o losing my configs and settings?
20:43<simleocas>http://s2.ar.bitefight.org/c.php?uid=19466
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20:44<Supaplex>eg, arch is i386 but I want amd64
20:46<shze>abrotman: i find it a few times in the x graphics drivers (e.g. ati) but i downloaded the intel driver, and grep didnt return anything..
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20:53<blarson>Supaplex: Not really. You can use dpkg --get-selections to save a package list, and save the contents of /etc for a merge.
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20:59<lestat>!sis driver
20:59<dpkg>it has been said that sis driver is for X4.2 and 4.3 in sisxdriver: deb http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/debian/unstable ./
21:01<lestat>Hi...I have installed the xserver-xorg-video-sis in my system...
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21:01<lestat>but some 3d graphics don´t display...
21:02<lestat>How can I solve this?
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21:02<tzafrir_laptop>avoid sis if you can, for starters :-(
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21:03<lestat>I was reading the winischhofer website...but it says:Note 3: These instructions do not apply to the modular tree (ie X.org >= 7.0).
21:05<lestat>And I my xorg version is: 1:7.3+18
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21:05<tzafrir_laptop>ok, trying to setup serial console (to catch panic messages from my sid computer with a sis)
21:06<pjrolls>abrotman: you around
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21:07<lestat>and my gcc version is: 4:4.3.2-2
21:07<tzafrir_laptop>But I still can't figure out how to do that
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21:07<tzafrir_laptop>e.g. how to get minicom from one side talk to minicom from another
21:08<lestat>excuse me, tzafrir_laptop, are you talking with me?
21:09-!-mode/#debian [+l 340] by debhelper
21:09<tzafrir_laptop>I'm trying to figure out what I could have missed
21:09<abrotman>uh ..
21:09<abrotman>pjrolls: hi?
21:10<pjrolls><--- trying to install wireless wifi realtek 8187 (debian compatable), usb, debian does not reconize it and i cant get the drivers installed, tried etchnahalf, all the files are in .ko files, anyone
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21:10<pjrolls>ahh :)
21:10<abrotman>they're supposed to be .ko
21:10<abrotman>!rtl8187
21:10<dpkg>[rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless drivers, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. Supports RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline kernel from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. Ask me about <wireless tree> to acquire for earlier kernels. http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl8187
21:10<pjrolls>abrotman: what do i do with them, i plug in my wifi and nothing...
21:10<abrotman>nothing in dmesg ?
21:11<pjrolls>nope, tried wlan0up, makedrv. (sourgrapes)
21:11<pjrolls>device not connected
21:12<pjrolls>and im using it with windows..same laptop
21:12<lestat>Could I use the binary package X.org 6.8.2 (gcc 3.?; 2005/06/24) for my amd64?
21:13<abrotman>why would you?
21:13<gsimmons>pjrolls: What specific wireless device are you attempting to use? (eg. make/model)
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21:13<pjrolls><gsimmons: its a alfa wifi, realtek 8187 chipset
21:14<tzafrir_laptop>anything simpler than minicom to connect over a serial cable to a getty?
21:14<pjrolls><--- debian dummy
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21:15<abrotman>tzafrir_laptop: maybe kermit
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21:16<gsimmons>pjrolls: If you're able, please provide the output of the "lsusb" command at a paste site.
21:16<gsimmons>!paste
21:16<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
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21:17<pjrolls>gsimmons, can do. let me follow that link above from abrotman it looks interesting, plus i have to plug my debian drive back in..
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21:56<vinicius>hello.. im having a problem loading GDM with a nvidia card.. it says I need libwfm but it is not present
21:57<vinicius>and i cant find out how to fix it... :(
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21:58<vinicius>it seems this is a famous bug that usually happens because libwfb.so is moved to a wrong place, but I dont actually have anything in my drive that matched *wfb* with 'find'
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22:02<Nemoder>vinicius: apt-file search libwfb
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22:03<Charly>huhu jemand online der sich mit dem debian raid system auskennt?
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22:04<Nemoder>!de
22:04<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment
22:04<Charly>thx
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22:08<vinicius>Nemoder: that returnts nothing
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22:10<Nemoder>then the file is not in your version of debian
22:11<adb>or xserver-xorg-core is just not installed
22:11<adb>xserver-xorg-core: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
22:12<vinicius>adb: good one
22:12<adb>xserver-xorg-core-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
22:12<vinicius>adb: thats really stupid
22:12<vinicius>adb: ill update xserver as well
22:13<adb> update will not install new packages
22:13<vinicius>adb: i dont know whats wrong, then
22:13<adb>he update the old ones
22:13<vinicius>adb: cause i have xserver but not this file
22:14<adb>install xserver-xorg-core
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22:14<adb>judd: xserver-xorg-core
22:14<judd>adb: Error: "xserver-xorg-core" is not a valid command.
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22:15<Nemoder>vinicius: adb is probably using Lenny or newer, Etch doesn't have that file
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22:16<lestat>Sis drivers...please help-me...
22:17<adb>Nemoder: right
22:17<lestat>Please see: http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
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22:17<lestat>and consider:
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22:17<trueno>Hi! I just upgraded to 2.6.27, and my iptables is complaining about NAT: iptables-restore v1.4.1.1: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'nat'
22:17<lestat>$X -version
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22:19<lestat>http://rafb.net/p/mBYNJW98.html
22:19<lestat>What´s my Xorg version? I´m using Debian Lenny...colecting informations from Synaptic:
22:21<lestat>the xorg version is : 1:7.3+18
22:22<lestat>So my xorg version is 7.3? Why in "X -version" shows "X.Org X Server 1.4.2"
22:22<lestat>So my xorg version is 7.3? Why in "X -version" shows "X.Org X Server 1.4.2"?
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22:24<lestat>What can I do about this topic "Note 3: These instructions do not apply to the modular tree (ie X.org >= 7.0)." in " http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart4.shtml#download "?
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22:42<johnfg>hey folks
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22:42<johnfg>I'm not getting flash-plugin installed the way I tried. How do I do it?
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22:42<johnfg>On lenny.
22:43<shizzlemeh>johnfg: I'm betting, you could download the .deb file from adobe's site that they have listed for Ubuntu
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22:47<johnfg>So, I'm downloadingg it now.
22:48<johnfg>Since I've come from fedora to debian lenny, I need to ask: how do I do the equivalent of a yum localinstall <file.deb> for apt-get?
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22:50<shizzlemeh>johnfg: i think it's dpkg -i file.deb
22:51<johnfg> Well, haven't tried it yet to run it, but it seemed to have installed fine per your instructions. Thanks shizzlemeh!
22:52*shizzlemeh is a total n00b.
22:52<shizzlemeh>You're welcome ;)
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22:53<abrotman>!refcard
22:53<dpkg>i heard refcard is A short reference of Debian commands can be found at http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ and will be quite useful for someone new to Debian.
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22:56<johnfg>dpkg: Thanks for the reminder. When I was going to install debian a while ago, I saw that, but didn't keep the reference. I'll go grab it now.
22:56<dpkg>johnfg: pas de quoi
22:56<johnfg>abrotman: I did it again
22:56<johnfg>!talking to a bot!
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22:58<shizzlemeh>What do you guys recommend as a good light-weight PDF reader?
22:59-!-mode/#debian [+l 346] by debhelper
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23:01<johnfg>shizzlemeh: I'm just downloading adobe's .deb now! I'll tell you if it installs alright.
23:01<shizzlemeh>johnfg: cool, i'd love to know. Using a fresh copy of debian myself
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23:02<johnfg>AdobeReader_enu-8.1.2_SU1-1.i386.deb is the file, just go to adobe.com and grab it.
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23:12<rage>#debian-es
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23:20<cyber>hallo how can get wu-ftpd configured
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23:25<kingsley>cyber: Have you looked for documentation?
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23:29<cyber>yes the it says ther shut a file in /etc/wu-ftp but is not
23:30<cyber>i ned a new one but how dose it look
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23:32<cyber>ther is just the README file
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23:35<lestat>Anyone knows if have any driver with 3d acelleration to sis761gx chipset?
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23:37<vinicius>any idea of how to change the system tray background color on gnome?
23:39<shizzlemeh>anyone else have slow dns response? Is this caused by ipv6?
23:40<cyber>found it
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23:45<vinicius>cyber, my issue?
23:45<vinicius>:D
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23:59<cyber>its working
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