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| 00:15 | <MrNaz> | using debian's apache package, where's the httpd.conf ? when i locate it all i find is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but its a 0 byte file... where are the conf directives ? |
| 00:15 | <yury> | I am having a small issue with iceweasel. The location bar disappeared and the CSS for wikipedia.org does not render. I ran debsums on it and everything is fine. Also, I moved my profile and the .mozilla directory out of the way, but the problem persists. |
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| 00:16 | <twb> | yury: was firefox running when you moved .mozilla? |
| 00:17 | <yury> | no |
| 00:17 | <twb> | MrNaz: there's a conf.d |
| 00:17 | <yury> | I don't seem to remember and recent XUL updates either. This is totally wierd. |
| 00:18 | <twb> | MrNaz: there's also an apache2.conf in there, dunno if that's useful. |
| 00:19 | <MrNaz> | twb conf.d is a directory... how does that help ? |
| 00:19 | <yury> | last iceweasel I dragged in was on the 7th, so it is probably not that. |
| 00:21 | <twb> | MrNaz: I believe the httpd.conf is broken up into many small parts, so that packages can just create files in conf.d instead of having to edit a shared file |
| 00:21 | <yury> | nvm |
| 00:21 | <gsimmons> | !tell MrNaz -about apache2 |
| 00:21 | <twb> | MrNaz: but I don't really use apache2. |
| 00:21 | <yury> | xulrunner-1.9 failed debsums |
| 00:22 | <yury> | reinstall fixed it |
| 00:22 | <twb> | gsimmons: thanks |
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| 00:22 | <gsimmons> | MrNaz: See the README.Debian file for an explanation of the configuration file layout. |
| 00:22 | <twb> | yury: that's strange- oh well. |
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| 01:22 | <umarzuki> | dear debian user, i'm suffering this simptom http://pastebin.com/d619fa193 when trying to install flash on my Debian Lenny |
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| 01:23 | <metalqga> | download the plugin from adobe's site |
| 01:23 | <metalqga> | and I will tell you what to do next |
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| 01:24 | <metalqga> | untar it into this dir /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ |
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| 01:30 | <twb> | !flash |
| 01:30 | <dpkg> | hmm... flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 01:30 | <twb> | !adobe flash |
| 01:30 | <dpkg> | Adobe Flash Player is non-free and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree (sid or backports.org) or flashplayer-mozilla (debian-multimedia.org). Adobe doesn't provide security support for flash except to upgrade to the latest version, so Adobe Flash cannot be in a stable release or testing (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). See also <non-free> <bpo> <adobe flash testing> <dmm> <nspluginwrapper> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 01:37 | <umarzuki> | Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape, |
| 01:37 | <umarzuki> | or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla) |
| 01:38 | <umarzuki> | where is it? |
| 01:38 | <twb> | !tell umarzuki -about adobe flash |
| 01:38 | <metalqga> | ' /usr/lib/mozilla |
| 01:38 | <twb> | umarzuki: don't unstall the version on Adobe's website, do it via apt. |
| 01:39 | <metalqga> | what's the difference? |
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| 01:39 | <umarzuki> | but i got http://pastebin.com/d619fa193 |
| 01:39 | <twb> | metalqga: doing it via apt means that it's easy to uninstall, it is upgraded automatically, and dpkg -S, cruft and friends know about it. |
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| 01:40 | <metalqga> | like I don't download the latest (because the old crashes as hell) |
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| 01:47 | <umarzuki_> | yeah, that trick worked |
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| 02:22 | <lee> | hello just testing my new debian system :) |
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| 02:25 | <ucu> | lee: congrats, it seems to work :) |
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| 02:36 | <devzero> | Has anyone tried booting debian from the acer aspire one's SD card? |
| 02:39 | <lee> | No,but I tired it with the dell and what I got was, "please remove any disks you have |
| 02:40 | <devzero> | :P thanks :) |
| 02:40 | <lee> | just a sec getting the name of the one item that helped me |
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| 02:41 | <lee> | ah if you still have windows use this and tell it to go to the HD |
| 02:42 | <lee> | unetbootin-windows-299.exe this is a great litle wonder and it helped me. I couldn't figure out how to make it work in linux though |
| 02:42 | <devzero> | mmmkay, will look for it.. thanks :) |
| 02:42 | <lee> | simple as googling it lol |
| 02:43 | <lee> | unetbootin eh google this part lol <<< |
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| 02:43 | <rdegraaf> | Hi folks, Sorry to interrupt, I have a problem with inline decryption of pgp in Evolution. Anyone there to help me solve this problem? |
| 02:43 | <lee> | It worked like a charm, you may need to do some up dating |
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| 02:44 | <lee> | hmmthat is over my head |
| 02:44 | <devzero> | um, looks like SD boot cant be done |
| 02:44 | <devzero> | http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6098 |
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| 02:44 | <lee> | so I found out myself too lol |
| 02:44 | <Hughes> | Hello, I'm trying to install quake wars on Debian Lenny. When I try to launch the game from the console it just goes all the way to "Async thread started" and then no futher. Anyone know how to run this? |
| 02:44 | <lee> | Ihad to use unetbootin-windows-299.exe just to get this |
| 02:45 | <devzero> | USB FTW, then |
| 02:45 | <lee> | hmm, I ran it in windows and stored it to the hdd |
| 02:45 | <devzero> | thx :) |
| 02:46 | <lee> | there is a drop down menue in the lower left I think, any how it cahnges from Drive I to C |
| 02:46 | <lee> | I left all the other lines alone |
| 02:46 | <lee> | oh it give gnome as a default |
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| 02:47 | <lee> | funy, it also didn't give me a screen resolution either |
| 02:47 | <lee> | HEY I lerned something New today lol |
| 02:47 | <lee> | I learned how to Net install lol |
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| 02:54 | <lee986321> | well, this is one ugly looking prgram after a net install..buy chance is there a way to bring my resolution up to full res from 1028x764 to 1368 by something? I didn't have the screen reolution option while doing hte onlione install version |
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| 02:59 | <cahoot> | lee986321: xrandr -q doesn't offer that resolution? |
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| 03:00 | <AndrewLee> | Hi, does XFCE has any wifi GUI tool such as network-manager in GNOME? |
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| 03:13 | <lee986321> | I do not know, I havent even tried to fire up the wifi on this thing yet lol |
| 03:13 | <lee986321> | Iam in the regular debian KDE session |
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| 03:41 | <fxiny> | i'm having issues on etch with xmms2 . it segfaults with etchnhalf . installed bpo 2.6.26 and it segfauls as well . other audio apps are ok . google is deaf |
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| 03:49 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: what does strace say what it was doing when it segfaulted? and check ltrace - not unlikely that a lib is involved. |
| 03:50 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: lemme stop amarok (xmms sounds like s*) |
| 03:50 | <metalqga> | hey what's the best virtual machine for single-cored old cpus, athlon XP? |
| 03:51 | <fxiny> | can't remember how to f* click in sounds gui app :))) |
| 03:52 | <Bushmills> | also helps to know in case of xmms2 what segfaults - client or server |
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| 03:55 | <metalqga> | qemu or xen? |
| 03:57 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: it shows the list then it segfaults when running xmms play or jump to list number . strace xmms2 play at the end print out > Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 03:58 | <metalqga> | can xmms access the sound card? |
| 03:58 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: using OSS? |
| 03:59 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: alsa , i think you are right about a lib problem |
| 04:00 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: checking ltrace |
| 04:01 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: anyway is not important . lenny's coming . xmms2 is a work in progress since ever , xmms works . amarok works . i think fixing it is a waste of time |
| 04:02 | <Bushmills> | there's also mpd |
| 04:02 | <fxiny> | is definetly a xmms2 problem . not an etchnhalf kernel cause it happens with bpo 2.6.26 as well |
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| 04:03 | <lee> | I has a small issue |
| 04:03 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i am addicted to xmms2 . if i can't fix it i'll reboot into 2.6.18 |
| 04:03 | <weasel> | lee: too much lolcat is bad for you |
| 04:05 | <Bushmills> | lee: nobody is perfect |
| 04:05 | <lee> | How do I go in and eh adjsut my screen be yond 1024x768? Ihave a high def tv, and so far all I get is the eh screen thing, I don't have the admisistrator portion of the screen , eh or I cant find it |
| 04:05 | <fxiny> | ltrace http://paste.debian.net/21496/ |
| 04:05 | <lee> | I hope no one is perfect hehee |
| 04:06 | <Bushmills> | lee, lenny? |
| 04:07 | <lee> | eh I need something like 13768x..erg I fer got that high res |
| 04:07 | <fxiny> | lee: lenny ? |
| 04:07 | <lee> | hmm not sure what htis is, how do I find out if I am lenny ? |
| 04:07 | <fxiny> | you should know it |
| 04:07 | <lee> | I net loaded it |
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| 04:08 | <Bushmills> | lee, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 04:08 | <lee> | meaning that I used the net to set it up |
| 04:09 | <lee> | 4.0 |
| 04:09 | <lee> | that is all it gives me |
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| 04:09 | <Bushmills> | (there is no xrandr with etch, i believe) |
| 04:10 | <Bushmills> | lee, try ctrl-alt-+ |
| 04:10 | <fxiny> | that's easy then : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:10 | <fxiny> | dig into it |
| 04:10 | <weasel> | I find it highly unlikely that you can do 13k times whatever. |
| 04:11 | <fxiny> | i prefere lenny/org way for setting x |
| 04:11 | <Bushmills> | dat why don't you "have the admisistrator portion" when you installed it yourself? |
| 04:11 | <lee> | it replied with (arg: -1) |
| 04:11 | <fxiny> | comparing to lenny dpkg-reconfigure is too lame :) |
| 04:11 | <Bushmills> | weasel: 13nn x 768, probably |
| 04:12 | <lee> | ok so how do I install it :) |
| 04:12 | <lee> | eh right now it is very ugly looking hehehee |
| 04:13 | <lee> | so eh did I hit the wron server to set up then? |
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| 04:13 | <fxiny> | i mean . from a lazy user point of view old dpkg-reconfigure is better . but hell , learing more about x and setting it the new way is much rewarding |
| 04:14 | <Bushmills> | lee, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or edit the X11 config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 04:14 | <lee> | erg I am having issues with pms eh jsut a sec while I figure out the setting for this x chat |
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| 04:14 | <lee> | ok |
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| 04:14 | -!- | pos is "(unknown)" on (unknown) |
| 04:15 | <weasel> | lee: and learn to spel and use punctuation marks between your sentences it is extremely difficult and annoying to read what you write eh you never use a full stop only eh |
| 04:15 | <lee> | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:15 | <lee> | bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 04:15 | <lee> | eh sory, lack of sleep and stress. |
| 04:16 | <weasel> | you will want to run dpkg-reconfigure as root. |
| 04:17 | <lee> | oh |
| 04:17 | <Bushmills> | lee, Pantothenic acid is said to be good against pms |
| 04:18 | <Bushmills> | good sources are chicken, beef, potatoes, porridge, tomatoes, kidney, eggs |
| 04:19 | <lee> | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 04:19 | <lee> | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure |
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| 04:19 | <lee> | its being a real pain in the __*&*% |
| 04:19 | <lee> | eh how do I apt get it? |
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| 04:20 | <Bushmills> | lee, you just give the command completely, as written above |
| 04:20 | <lee> | I did and it gave permision denied even after I di the su |
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| 04:23 | <Bushmills> | do, as user, xhost + , then su, then dpkg-reconfigure ... after that, as user, xhost - again |
| 04:24 | <Bushmills> | or run dpkg-reconfigure from a virtual console |
| 04:26 | <lee> | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure |
| 04:26 | <Bushmills> | yes, do that |
| 04:27 | <lee> | eh ok eh See if I have a virtual console what would the name of it be |
| 04:27 | <lee> | that was a keyboard screw up |
| 04:28 | <Bushmills> | lee, ctrl-alt-f1 or chvt 1 |
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| 04:29 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i did not know mpd . it looks interesting |
| 04:30 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: not too different to xmms2, being client/server as well. but more mature. |
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| 04:31 | <Bushmills> | oh, virtual console worked. forgot to say how to return to X |
| 04:31 | <metalqga> | :D |
| 04:32 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: it suggests icecast2 which is about streaming , i was already looking at it |
| 04:32 | <fxiny> | i mean icecats2 |
| 04:33 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: as icecast2 stream source i liked ezstream |
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| 04:34 | <Bushmills> | can also source video, and on-the-fly conversion |
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| 04:35 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: ezstream ? i'll check it then . |
| 04:35 | <lee> | ok that was a nice trip into restart land with the ctrl+alt+f1 herg |
| 04:35 | <Bushmills> | lee, why? |
| 04:35 | <lee> | it placved me into a text thing and the pc hung |
| 04:36 | <Bushmills> | the "text thing" is the virtual console |
| 04:36 | <lee> | I am in the native gnome now |
| 04:36 | <lee> | ah ok |
| 04:36 | <lee> | eh waht was the command that I need after that then |
| 04:36 | <lee> | Il retry it |
| 04:36 | <Bushmills> | you log in there, as root, and run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command |
| 04:37 | <lee> | ok getting a pen |
| 04:37 | <Bushmills> | when done, you switch back to x11 |
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| 04:38 | <lee> | ok here i go..brb |
| 04:38 | <Bushmills> | lee, brown rice and bananas are also good |
| 04:38 | <Bushmills> | vitamin b6 sources |
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| 04:38 | <lee> | hmm |
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| 04:38 | <lee> | My dog eats bananas |
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| 04:41 | <metalqga> | calcium and vit C for me |
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| 04:42 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: bingo ! streaming with mpc :) |
| 04:43 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: good |
| 04:43 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: it sounds very very good |
| 04:43 | <Bushmills> | xmms2 addiction relief |
| 04:44 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: installing and running mpd then mpc is easier comparing to xmms2 for streaming radio |
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| 04:45 | <lee> | Command Not found |
| 04:45 | <metalqga> | you are running debian? |
| 04:45 | <lee> | yes I am |
| 04:45 | <metalqga> | and you logged on as root |
| 04:46 | <lee> | yeah |
| 04:46 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: more then that : i'm safe from amarok cutting my little ram jugular :) |
| 04:46 | <fxiny> | gui vampire ? XXX |
| 04:47 | <fxiny> | i can install a proper debian etchnhalf kernel now |
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| 04:48 | <lee> | Is very Confused at waht is going on. |
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| 04:49 | <Bushmills> | lee, typo, probably |
| 04:49 | <fxiny> | lee: never log in as root . add a normal user and log in again |
| 04:50 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: for running dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 04:50 | <lee> | ok i did that |
| 04:50 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: ahh ok ok |
| 04:52 | <lee> | GOT IT |
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| 04:52 | <lee> | I have a blue window that is up |
| 04:53 | <fxiny> | blue ? wt4x |
| 04:53 | <lee> | it asking to attempt to auto detect video hardware |
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| 04:53 | <metalqga> | great |
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| 04:54 | <lee> | I had to combine both the dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:54 | <turban> | how to set the Kscope menu font in gnome? |
| 04:54 | <lee> | in the terminal |
| 04:54 | <lee> | should I attemot the auto detect? |
| 04:54 | <lee> | how in heavens name do I activate the spell check |
| 04:54 | * | fxiny asks gently nasty neighbours to test mpd :P |
| 04:55 | <lee> | ok attempting the ato check |
| 04:55 | <metalqga> | lol you also have nasty neighbours :D |
| 04:55 | <fxiny> | metalqga: the world hates me :))) |
| 04:56 | <lee> | I 810 that is my video chip set in a dell |
| 04:56 | <turban> | I use the kscope --fn=Arial, but it says: QFont::setRawName(): Invalid XLFD: "Arial". Any advise? |
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| 04:57 | <lee> | its asking me how much ram should I allocate for the card? |
| 04:57 | <lee> | I haave 512 meg of ram |
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| 04:57 | <Gekz> | allocate 514 megs |
| 04:57 | <Gekz> | you'll need it |
| 04:57 | <^valentino^> | MA SUCATEMI IL CAZZO |
| 04:57 | <^valentino^> | BULICCI |
| 04:58 | <lee> | eh I think that will strain my sytem wont it |
| 04:58 | <^valentino^> | YA |
| 04:58 | <^valentino^> | ciao a tutti |
| 04:58 | <^valentino^> | di dove siete |
| 04:58 | <^valentino^> | ? |
| 04:58 | <Gekz> | learn to english |
| 04:58 | <lee> | hehehee, I amnot toatly dumb lol |
| 04:58 | <Gekz> | !it |
| 04:58 | <dpkg> | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 04:59 | <^valentino^> | learn to italian :( |
| 05:00 | <^valentino^> | hello not understand much English I know one thing |
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| 05:01 | <fxiny> | we can translate your capital letters rubbish |
| 05:01 | <fxiny> | don't worry :P |
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| 05:02 | <lee> | WEF its asking about the key board |
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| 05:04 | <Bushmills> | metalqga: and magnesium |
| 05:05 | <Bushmills> | lee, is that a netbook kind of machine? |
| 05:05 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: hmmm : mpd sits in /etc/init.d . listening to 6600 . looking into it |
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| 05:07 | <^valentino^> | hi.. i need an information.. could you give it to me? |
| 05:08 | <Bushmills> | ^valentino^: of course. here it is: 42 |
| 05:08 | <fxiny> | heheeh |
| 05:08 | <fxiny> | and 47 : dead man talking :))) |
| 05:09 | <^valentino^> | piacere raga ho 14 anni e sono di genova usate il translate sennò non ci capisco:( |
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| 05:13 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: great : /etc/mpd.conf says all . |
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| 05:16 | <turban> | Could someone provide some qt font names used in kscope --font <fontname> |
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| 05:17 | <fxiny> | ^valentino^: next don't come in typing rubbish in capital letters , this is a nice place . so : what's your question again ? |
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| 05:17 | <^valentino^> | fxiny che cosa non ho capito |
| 05:17 | <^valentino^> | :| |
| 05:17 | <fxiny> | english only please |
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| 05:19 | <^valentino^> | fxiny italian only please |
| 05:20 | <eightyeight> | variable: this is an english channel. if you want support, you must type in english. if you want italian support, then /join #debian-it |
| 05:20 | <ao2> | ciao ^valentino^, this is an eglish-language channel, you are wrong! Try #debian-it, or.. qery me if it is a short question |
| 05:20 | <eightyeight> | ^valentino^: ^^ |
| 05:20 | <eightyeight> | variable: sorry. bad tab-complete |
| 05:20 | <variable> | ;]] |
| 05:20 | <^valentino^> | non capisco |
| 05:20 | <^valentino^> | nulla |
| 05:20 | <^valentino^> | :( |
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| 05:21 | <Bushmills> | /ignore ^valentino^ |
| 05:21 | <Bushmills> | oops |
| 05:21 | <Bushmills> | but now |
| 05:21 | <^valentino^> | Bushmills ma che ho fatto :( |
| 05:22 | <fxiny> | ^valentino^: do you have any debian related questions ? |
| 05:22 | <^valentino^> | yes |
| 05:22 | <^valentino^> | see are racists I perche are a 14 years old Italian there take advantage |
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| 05:25 | <artistx> | ok it is me lee, and there is something most defiantly wrong with my installation |
| 05:26 | <artistx> | This is a live CD and it is telling me that I am at the resolution of 1360x768 |
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| 05:27 | <^valentino^> | excuse to everybody |
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| 05:28 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: any client to connect from remote ? man mpc says "local" |
| 05:28 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: many. |
| 05:29 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: what window manager/desktop environment, if any? |
| 05:29 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: flux |
| 05:29 | <artistx> | Bushmills its me lee I started the Artistx dvd to see if something was wrong and I am at 1360x768 |
| 05:29 | <Bushmills> | artistx: congratulations |
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| 05:30 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i'm editing mpd.conf |
| 05:30 | <artistx> | But, my hdd stinks |
| 05:30 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: prefer curses or X frontend? |
| 05:30 | <artistx> | eh I mean the OS on it has nothing compared to this |
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| 05:30 | <artistx> | How the heck do I set up the apprpriate net install? |
| 05:30 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: cli possibly but no x , curses is ok |
| 05:31 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i use to run xmms2 in a screen session |
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| 05:31 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: try ncmpc |
| 05:31 | <fxiny> | right |
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| 05:33 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: but mpc works remotely too |
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| 05:34 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: yes ? |
| 05:34 | <fxiny> | good |
| 05:35 | <csc_> | Anybody knows what the official IRC server/channel for the linux kernel is ? |
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| 05:36 | <Bushmills> | csc_: #kernel-newbies, maybe |
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| 05:36 | <csc_> | Bushmills: no matter to what irc server I am connected ? Its always the same channel ? |
| 05:36 | -!- | flash is now known as Guest3356 |
| 05:37 | <Bushmills> | csc_: without dash. no, they are not commonly bridged |
| 05:37 | <Bushmills> | that is, #kernelnewbies |
| 05:37 | <csc_> | Bushmills: Thanks. I'll try there. |
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| 05:57 | <cammoblammo> | I see that etckeeper integrates with apt. Does it also integrate with aptitude? |
| 05:57 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: yes . mpc does remote *control* by exporting host and port . i'll look further into proper streaming |
| 05:58 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: yes right - all mpd clients are server control interfaces only |
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| 05:59 | <Bushmills> | but sound generation and playing is server task |
| 06:00 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i like mpd , yes . all i want is getting a faster box streaming to a slower one |
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| 06:01 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: i used rplay for that purpose |
| 06:01 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: binding it to an iface , edinting mpd.conf is nice , so far i'm happy with it |
| 06:01 | <Bushmills> | (considered obsolete) |
| 06:01 | <fxiny> | rplay ? |
| 06:01 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i use nc and mplayer |
| 06:02 | <Bushmills> | yes. modernizing computer setup of a pub. task: try to use all available equipment only. |
| 06:02 | <fxiny> | but sound quality is poor |
| 06:02 | <Bushmills> | ended up with public access terminal which was a 32 mb 100 mhz pentium notebook, which also connected to the sound system :) |
| 06:03 | <fxiny> | :) |
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| 06:03 | <Bushmills> | the music player was running on the gateway, no sound card there |
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| 06:03 | <Bushmills> | used rplay/rplayd to play sound over the net to the notebook |
| 06:04 | <Bushmills> | (rplayd has very low memory footprint) |
| 06:05 | <fxiny> | i was looking into icecast2 but i stopped |
| 06:05 | <Bushmills> | i was running 4 icecast stations until some time ago |
| 06:05 | <fxiny> | oh i'm always connected to digimport |
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| 06:06 | <fxiny> | i do olny streaming , no ripping , no audio torrents anymore |
| 06:07 | <fxiny> | and i want clients running in screen |
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| 06:07 | <fxiny> | cli only |
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| 06:07 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: do you know musicindex? an apache2 module |
| 06:08 | <fxiny> | nope , i read about ampache |
| 06:08 | <Bushmills> | fxiny: mind if i msg you? |
| 06:08 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: you are welcome |
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| 06:10 | <fxiny> | msg Bushmills oh i see . i've lost everything at the end : i'm on mrxvt |
| 06:10 | <fxiny> | oops |
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| 06:24 | <umarzuki> | hi |
| 06:24 | <metalqga> | welcome back |
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| 06:24 | <umarzuki> | why is that when i tried to install koffice, it tries o remove kde4? |
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| 06:25 | <umarzuki> | http://pastebin.com/d532d7be8 |
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| 06:28 | <metalqga> | The following packages have unmet dependencies: .... |
| 06:29 | <Bushmills> | umarzuki: probably a conflict of dependencies |
| 06:29 | <metalqga> | try using OO |
| 06:29 | <Bushmills> | umarzuki: abiword could do |
| 06:30 | <Bushmills> | (assuming it is the word processor part you're after) |
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| 06:34 | <hjb> | Hi. A little find question: how do i run find in a way no filenames get printed (i.e. yomething like the 'quiet' option to many tools) ? |
| 06:34 | <hjb> | the man page says it uses the -print option if nothing is specified, but i can't find a '-noprint' option or something similiar |
| 06:35 | <weasel> | hjb: redirect the output to /dev/null |
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| 06:36 | <hjb> | weasel hmm, ok. thought about that, but i though that producing no output would be more in the sense of effectiveness ;-) |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | you thought wrong |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | having a million switches for every stupid little thing is so annoying. |
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| 06:36 | <weasel> | the unix philosophy works so much better |
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| 06:37 | <hjb> | weasel hmm, yes. unix philosophy :-) |
| 06:37 | <Over> | ke tu madre ke Oo |
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| 06:38 | <hjb> | weasel but producing no output would really speed things up :-) Have you ever noticed how much a printf() costs? |
| 06:38 | <weasel> | redirect it to dev/null. |
| 06:38 | <weasel> | and stop whining about it, please? |
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| 06:38 | <hjb> | find would still do a printf() if i do |
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| 06:39 | <metalqga> | then edit the source |
| 06:39 | <hjb> | weasel ok, no prob ;) if you're not in mood of discussion, i'll stop now. |
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| 06:40 | <Bushmills> | hjb: try find -exec false 0 \; :P |
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| 06:41 | <eightyeight> | hjb: the point of find, is to let you know what it finds. so i have a hard time understanding why you don't want output |
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| 06:41 | <weasel> | hjb: also, find distinguishes between output is a tty and output isn't a tty. |
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| 06:42 | <hjb> | weasel what's the difference? it would still printf(), else i wouldn't be able to redirect to a file for further usage |
| 06:42 | <weasel> | UTSL. |
| 06:42 | <hjb> | eightyeight i just want to check which files i *can't* read |
| 06:43 | <weasel> | um. |
| 06:43 | <weasel> | and how do you check that? |
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| 06:43 | <^valentino^> | !I |
| 06:43 | <dpkg> | somebody said i was the imaginary unit, the square root of -1 and other nifty things, or the chemical symbol to iodine and a personal pronoun together with me, my and myself, or roman numeral for 1, or the letter between h and j, or commonly used as an iteration counter, or rapidly becomming the most tacked-on factoid. used as a block index in much of the rsync code |
| 06:43 | <valdyn> | read stderr of find would do that |
| 06:43 | <eightyeight> | hjb: so, you want to file files that you don't have read permission on, but you don't want to know what files those are? |
| 06:43 | <^valentino^> | !it |
| 06:43 | <dpkg> | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:43 | <valdyn> | reading stderr of find would do that |
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| 06:43 | <^valentino^> | !in |
| 06:43 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in |
| 06:43 | <^valentino^> | !of |
| 06:43 | <dpkg> | [of] shorthand for OpenFirmware. |
| 06:43 | <^valentino^> | !Ol |
| 06:43 | <^valentino^> | !ol |
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| 06:43 | <eightyeight> | ^valentino^: please stop |
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| 06:43 | -!- | ^valentino^ was kicked from #debian by weasel [^valentino^] |
| 06:44 | <hjb> | eightyeight find reports them to stderr, the files i can't read |
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| 06:44 | <hjb> | eightyeight but i don't want to now which files i can read |
| 06:44 | <@weasel> | find doesn't report *files* you can't read |
| 06:44 | <eightyeight> | hjb: oh, i see. in that case, 2> /dev/null |
| 06:44 | <valdyn> | hjb: you can use finds -perm |
| 06:45 | <hjb> | weasel sure it does, throught stderr |
| 06:45 | <@weasel> | no it doesn't |
| 06:45 | <hjb> | valdyn oh, good point |
| 06:45 | <valdyn> | but the speed of printf really is insignificant |
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| 06:45 | <hjb> | hjb@nobackstein:~$ find /root/ > /dev/null |
| 06:45 | <hjb> | find: "/root/.aptitude": no permisson |
| 06:45 | <valdyn> | unless your files are in a ramdisk |
| 06:45 | -!- | mode/#debian [-b *!*Azzurra@*.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] by weasel |
| 06:46 | <@weasel> | hjb: that's not a _file_. it's a directory. |
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| 06:46 | <hjb> | weasel doh ;) if it'd be a file it'd still be reported |
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| 06:46 | <@weasel> | hjb: no, it wouldn't |
| 06:46 | <@weasel> | now get a clue before you try to be smart to me |
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| 06:46 | <eightyeight> | hjb: weasel is right |
| 06:46 | <hjb> | weasel hey :-) |
| 06:46 | <hjb> | weasel you're right |
| 06:46 | <hjb> | weasel sorry :-D |
| 06:47 | <eightyeight> | hjb: directories detirmine if you can list files, not files |
| 06:47 | <hjb> | ok, misconception recognized here |
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| 06:48 | <hjb> | so i guess i'll further study the -perm option now |
| 06:48 | <hjb> | thanks for your help :) |
| 06:48 | <eightyeight> | technically speaking, however, dirs are still files.</devils_advocate> |
| 06:48 | <hjb> | unix philosophy: everythings a file? |
| 06:48 | <hjb> | right! |
| 06:48 | <valdyn> | but find was complaining that it cant execute .aptitude, not that it cant read .aptitude |
| 06:48 | <@weasel> | all files are equal |
| 06:49 | <eightyeight> | s/philosophy/implementation/ |
| 06:49 | <@weasel> | some are more equal than others |
| 06:49 | <Bushmills> | echo foo > /dev/powersupply ? |
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| 06:50 | <valdyn> | err nm |
| 06:50 | <^valentino^> | weasel |
| 06:50 | <^valentino^> | !It |
| 06:50 | <dpkg> | Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:50 | <^valentino^> | Iam |
| 06:50 | <^valentino^> | italian |
| 06:50 | <^valentino^> | =) |
| 06:50 | <eightyeight> | mkfifo {foo,bar}; echo -n "Where am I?" | cat - foo > bar &; cat < bar > foo # :) |
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| 06:50 | <@weasel> | !tell ^valentino^ about enter |
| 06:51 | <^valentino^> | cosa vuoldire? |
| 06:51 | <^valentino^> | dont'worry? |
| 06:51 | <@weasel> | and this is an english language channel. don't make me remove you again. |
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| 06:53 | <hjb> | for the sake of completeness and info: find /root \! -readable 2>/dev/null |
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| 06:53 | <^valentino^> | weasel Okey |
| 06:53 | <hjb> | that's the command that does the trick ;) |
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| 06:56 | <hjb> | hmm, no it doesn't :-( this treats dangeling links as not readable :-| |
| 06:56 | <^valentino^> | hi |
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| 07:02 | <SuperFolle> | Tchao |
| 07:02 | <SuperFolle> | weasel understad? |
| 07:03 | <SuperFolle> | !in |
| 07:03 | <dpkg> | well, in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in |
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| 07:04 | <daemon> | Hey all Xorg keeps locking up with a really odd message: |
| 07:05 | <daemon> | Ring end |
| 07:05 | <daemon> | space: 28 wanted 32 |
| 07:05 | <daemon> | then a few lines later after DRM settles down, Fatal server error: Lockup |
| 07:06 | <daemon> | the card is an intel (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf$ |
| 07:06 | <daemon> | I can see one person reported it by looking on google quite a while ago |
| 07:06 | <daemon> | no reply or other posts though |
| 07:06 | <daemon> | this only started happaning recently |
| 07:07 | <ucu> | daemon: when does it happen, when you startx or when x is running for a while? |
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| 07:09 | <daemon> | ucu, intermitant, also unrecoverable, gdm crashs and keep strying to restart then gives up. I think time wise mhmmm.. between 30 minutes and 6 hours |
| 07:10 | <daemon> | reboot needed to correct it |
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| 07:11 | <ucu> | daemon: can you pastebin the complete error log please? |
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| 07:11 | <daemon> | ucu, of course one moment |
| 07:12 | <daemon> | http://pastebin.com/m7d740442 |
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| 07:15 | <ucu> | daemon: what kernel do you use and how did you install the driver for the card? |
| 07:15 | <daemon> | ucu, apt-get install xorg |
| 07:15 | <daemon> | and i use lenny |
| 07:15 | <daemon> | Linux laptop1 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 15:18:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:16 | <daemon> | ucu, xorg detected the card its self |
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| 07:17 | <ucu> | daemon: ok, one moment. checking if a bug was reported already |
| 07:17 | <daemon> | ucu, this has been working a good few weeks absolutely perfect then suddenly started acting up im figuring one of the updates |
| 07:18 | <ucu> | maybe one of the other people here can pick that up. cause my brain is stalled :) |
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| 07:19 | <daemon> | ok dokey thank you for having a look ucu :) |
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| 07:22 | <abrotman> | which video card? |
| 07:23 | <abrotman> | if you try the vesa driver, does it also happen? |
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| 07:31 | <daemon> | abrotman, no but that is minging |
| 07:31 | <daemon> | lol |
| 07:32 | <abrotman> | huh? |
| 07:32 | <daemon> | abrotman, there was a recent update to the driver I am using |
| 07:32 | <daemon> | the intel driver for xorg |
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| 07:32 | <abrotman> | !sdn |
| 07:32 | <dpkg> | snapshots is, like, an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 07:32 | <abrotman> | try the old one |
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| 07:34 | <daemon> | ah ok |
| 07:34 | <daemon> | ta abrotman |
| 07:35 | <abrotman> | or try the vesa driver |
| 07:36 | <raceman> | Hi all, i'm new here, like to ask a question. I've an older server with an older version of debian running on it (don't know the exact version). Sometimes I rebooted the server (when moved to another location etc.), but today I also had to move it to another location, and now it doesn't regcognized my netowrkcard correctly. I try to google for the faillures and read some postings etc, but i'm stuck with it. |
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| 07:37 | <raceman> | the weird thing is that I can't remember I changed anything within the configuration |
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| 07:38 | <abrotman> | dmesg | grep eth .. see anything ? |
| 07:39 | <raceman> | when I do an ifconfig -a , it's only displaying lo and sit0, when I do a /etc/init.d/network restart it's output is 'Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCSIFADDR: no such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Failed to bring up eth0.' |
| 07:39 | <raceman> | and when I do lspci it's shows my network device |
| 07:40 | <raceman> | @abrotman , no, no results. |
| 07:40 | <Bushmills> | raceman: sound like either the module for your network card hasn't been loaded, or your network card is broken |
| 07:40 | <abrotman> | raceman: you can try changing slots .. but it sounds like you broke it |
| 07:41 | <Bushmills> | raceman: check, with lsmod, that the proper module is present |
| 07:41 | <raceman> | The first thing I thought it was broken to, but I already try to switch slots, and tryed 2 another network cards (other brands) that had the same problem |
| 07:41 | <raceman> | What about the modules? I don't know a lot about modules. |
| 07:41 | <abrotman> | raceman: cat /proc/version .. what does it return |
| 07:42 | <Bushmills> | raceman: lspci | grep Ether shows what? |
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| 07:45 | <raceman> | @abrotman , Linux version 2.6.8.1-386 (delinger@toaster.hq.voxel.net) (gpc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2)) #1 Thu Nov 11 12:18:43 EST 2004 |
| 07:45 | <abrotman> | yay sarge! |
| 07:45 | <abrotman> | oh .. that's not a sarge kernel .. |
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| 07:45 | <stew> | no its not a debian kernel |
| 07:46 | <raceman> | @Bushmills , I did lsmod, but did'nt see anything that I guess thats the network device. Nothing with eth0, Realtek, or something I recognize for networking |
| 07:46 | <abrotman> | raceman: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 ... what's the line it returns ? |
| 07:46 | <Bushmills> | raceman: you won't see eth0 in lsmod |
| 07:46 | <Bushmills> | raceman: that's why i asked to grep for Ether |
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| 07:47 | <Bushmills> | s/lsmod/lspci/ |
| 07:49 | <raceman> | Just a sec i've to type it over ;p |
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| 07:51 | <raceman> | brb, I'm moving my laptop next to the server |
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| 07:53 | <abrotman> | raceman: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 ... what's the line it returns ? |
| 07:54 | <raceman_> | @abrotman ii libc6 1.7-13 GNU C Library: Shared Libraries |
| 07:54 | <abrotman> | that's not debian |
| 07:55 | <raceman_> | @Bushmills, lsmod |grep ehther did'nt give any result |
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| 07:57 | <raceman_> | @abrotman, I'm sorry, did'nt know that. I thought it was debian due I did the cat /proc/version and was returning debian in the line |
| 07:57 | <abrotman> | it doesn't seem like it |
| 07:57 | <raceman_> | How can I recognize the linux distro? |
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| 07:57 | <abrotman> | raceman_: dpkg -l | grep bunt ... see if anything comes back |
| 07:58 | <raceman_> | @abrotman , no |
| 07:58 | <abrotman> | maybe they just used a goofy kernel with it |
| 07:58 | <raceman_> | hmmz |
| 07:59 | <abrotman> | raceman_: what do you see in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 08:00 | <raceman_> | @abrotman, a lot of lines with debian.nl and debian.org http addresses |
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| 08:00 | <abrotman> | okay .. maybe it's just out of date .. |
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| 08:04 | <stew> | raceman_: did "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" really say "1.7-13"? or was it "2.7-13"? |
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| 08:05 | <stew> | raceman_: does "uname -a" really say "2.6.8.1-386" or was it "2.6.8-1-386" ? |
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| 08:07 | <raceman_> | sorry, my typo, it's 2.6.8-1-386 |
| 08:08 | <abrotman> | a sarge kernel on a lenny box? |
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| 08:11 | <raceman_> | I'm sorry, I'm running out of time, i've an appointment so I've to leave. I'll hire an linux expert, hoppefully he can repair. Thanks abrotman, Bushmills & stew for trying helping me. |
| 08:11 | <raceman_> | I appreciate it |
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| 08:13 | <abrotman> | raceman_: check the MAC against the /etc/udev/ entries for network devices |
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| 08:14 | <abrotman> | raceman_: such as like grep -r "part of the mac" /etc/udev/ |
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| 08:41 | <Lethalman> | I have gstreamer bad plugins but I can't load this video (MMS): http://tv.repubblica.it/palinsesto/2008-11-14/7118 |
| 08:41 | <Lethalman> | it says Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file. |
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| 08:42 | <Bushmills> | Lethalman: pick a stream which acutally exists |
| 08:42 | <Bushmills> | actually... |
| 08:43 | <fxiny> | works here . mplayer plugin |
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| 08:43 | <fxiny> | etch , firebug 3 , Marillat stuff |
| 08:44 | <Bushmills> | strange... "main playlist: nothing to play" |
| 08:44 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i have musicidex in my todo list ;) |
| 08:44 | <fxiny> | double checking |
| 08:45 | <fxiny> | it works . audio video are ok |
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| 08:46 | * | fxiny goes back watching saturn's rings |
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| 08:47 | <fxiny> | Bushmills: i have musicindex in my todo list ;) |
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| 08:50 | <edu__> | does anyone know the name of the package to have an icon that displays if my num bloq key is on? |
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| 08:51 | <Bushmills> | edu__: what window manager, or desktop environment? |
| 08:51 | <edu__> | gnome :) |
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| 08:52 | <abrotman> | edu__: doesn't your numlock have a light ? |
| 08:52 | <edu__> | not my eeepc hehehe |
| 08:53 | <Bushmills> | edu__: lock-keys-applet |
| 08:53 | <edu__> | thanks |
| 08:53 | <edu__> | :) |
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| 08:56 | <Lethalman> | fxiny: mplayer plugin? which package? |
| 08:58 | <fxiny> | Lethalman: debian-multimedia.org mplayer 3.40 ? |
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| 08:58 | <Lethalman> | fxiny: oh you mean mplayer plugin for the browser, i thought for gstreamer :) |
| 08:59 | <fxiny> | Lethalman: browser |
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| 09:04 | <screenn> | howto convert avi to DivX? |
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| 09:06 | <screenn> | I need DivX video with some options, I'll watch it in my phone which can play it |
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| 09:09 | <douglas> | alguem sabe como atualizo o firefox no debian br cdd do 1.04 pro 3.04 ? |
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| 09:17 | <kemik25> | hi everyone. |
| 09:17 | <kemik25> | nice to meet you all. |
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| 09:31 | <An|ma> | sep are you there ? |
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| 09:33 | <stevecotton> | douglas: |
| 09:33 | <stevecotton> | !br |
| 09:33 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 09:33 | <stevecotton> | !firefox |
| 09:33 | <dpkg> | firefox is, like, replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel>, <why iceweasel>. |
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| 09:34 | <kemik25> | i have problem here... could anyone help... |
| 09:34 | <stevecotton> | !ask |
| 09:34 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 09:35 | <kemik25> | i bought new plantronic headset but no sound from the headset.... the device detected but no sound...could anyone help.. |
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| 09:35 | <cahoot> | kemik25: try asoundconf |
| 09:36 | <kemik25> | asoundconf is-active |
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| 09:36 | <cahoot> | asoundconf list-cards |
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| 09:37 | <cahoot> | Isuppose your headset gets to be the seconf card - i e not default |
| 09:37 | <kemik25> | sudo asoundconf list -> Headset |
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| 09:39 | <stevecotton> | try "alsamixer", see if the master volume control is set to zero |
| 09:39 | <kemik25> | but still no sound.. the headset usb device... detected as Plantronics Headset (Alsa Mixer)... |
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| 09:40 | <kemik25> | volume set to maximum... but still no sound.. |
| 09:40 | <stevecotton> | also (and it's daft but worth eliminating), there's probably a volume control on those headphones themselves |
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| 09:41 | <cahoot> | kemik25: also note that soundlevel is different from 'mute' status |
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| 09:42 | <cahoot> | kemik25: and... not a ubuntu system by chance? |
| 09:44 | <kemik25> | i am using ubuntu... is it because of OS.. |
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| 09:45 | <cahoot> | two concerns: 1: wrong channel and 2: pulseaudio might be messing with you |
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| 10:36 | <tghy> | Hello |
| 10:36 | <tghy> | Can i ask? |
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| 10:37 | <Deiz> | How long does the unstable freeze last when leading up to a new stable release? |
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| 10:42 | <stew> | Deiz: unstable doesn't freeze, testing does. it lasts as long as it takes to get rid of the known release critical bugs |
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| 10:56 | <Deiz> | stew: Oh? It seems a few packages (Like Pidgin) are old in unstable. |
| 10:56 | <Deiz> | That's not a freeze, just time it takes to trickle down from upstream? |
| 10:57 | <stew> | !slushy |
| 10:57 | <dpkg> | slushy is probably when a 'testing' release becomes frozen, unstable tends to partially freeze as well. this is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates andto fix release critical bugs which are keeping testing from becoming stable. |
| 10:57 | <stew> | judd: versions pidgin |
| 10:57 | <Deiz> | I see. |
| 10:57 | <judd> | stew: pidgin: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 (etch-backports) 2.4.3-4 (lenny) 2.4.3-4 (sid) 2.5.2-1 (experimental) |
| 10:58 | <Deiz> | Hrm. |
| 10:58 | <Deiz> | So, Pidgin 2.5.2 and OO.org 3 are in experimental. Is that repo for unstable software, or just cutting edge? |
| 10:59 | <stew> | Deiz: both, and you should assume the packages in experimental are dangerous to install |
| 11:00 | <Deiz> | I see. |
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| 11:25 | <Bushmills> | Deiz: that's repo for experimental software |
| 11:26 | <Bushmills> | unstable is for unstable |
| 11:27 | <Bushmills> | stew: not a lot of danger arising from installing. running is where the problems come from :) |
| 11:28 | <AzaTht> | what should I do when someone though it was a good idea to reimplement half-assed std::string? |
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| 11:29 | <stew> | Bushmills: you don't think there can be problems in the maintainer scripts? |
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| 11:30 | <Bushmills> | yes, there too. that's the "not a lot" |
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| 11:33 | <nubbun> | I wish to help set up the servers so that Debian seeds it's torrents. I'm not a Debian project member. How can I help with that? |
| 11:33 | <nubbun> | it's --> its |
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| 11:42 | <geoffroy> | nkj |
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| 11:45 | <abrotman> | Bushmills: have you ever seen the linux-gazette bug? |
| 11:46 | <abrotman> | Bushmills: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=155873 |
| 11:46 | <Bushmills> | installing linux gazettes through borked installation script? |
| 11:46 | <Bushmills> | no |
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| 11:56 | <stevecotton> | nubbun - is there a torrent that's completely unseeded (probably), or just one that's slow? |
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| 12:00 | <nubbun> | stevecotton: weekly builds are usually unseeded in my experience. |
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| 12:03 | <stevecotton> | nubbun: you can use jigdo from the previous weekly; but at ADSL rates anyone downloading from you would also be better using jigdo from the previous weekly. |
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| 12:04 | * | stevecotton looked at contributing ADSL bandwidth a while ago, and is now part of the debtorrent crowd. |
| 12:06 | <nubbun> | stevecotton: thanks for the tip, but I've encountered failures with jigdo. I don't completely trust it. Perhaps the ISOs it builds (when it works) would match the hashes on the FTP site and I can check it that way. Even if jigdo worked smoothly, I'd still like to see the torrents seeded. |
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| 12:06 | <stevecotton> | That sounds like a bug needs filing on Jigdo. |
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| 12:17 | <nubbun> | Actually, I think I've never seen a weekly build seeded. |
| 12:17 | <Guest3402> | anyone here |
| 12:17 | <Guest3402> | hello |
| 12:18 | <Guest3402> | I am signing in from a knoppix boot need help with a debian install |
| 12:18 | <twb> | Is there a web page I can link to that gives an overview of bts(1)? |
| 12:18 | <twb> | That is, something like the bts manpage. |
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| 12:20 | <n8r0x> | how do I password protect a .bz2 file? |
| 12:20 | <twb> | n8r0x: encryption and compression are separate steps on Debian. |
| 12:20 | <twb> | n8r0x: you might want GnuPG public-key encryption. |
| 12:20 | <kmap> | twb: manpages.debian.net |
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| 12:21 | <twb> | kmap: thanks. |
| 12:21 | <kmap> | twb: No problem. |
| 12:21 | <nubbun> | twb,n8r0x GPG does symetric also. |
| 12:22 | <twb> | True. |
| 12:22 | <Guest3402> | is there a limit size for /root? can't load grub or lilo in the last stages of install debian etch - > can't boot. |
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| 12:23 | <twb> | Guest3402: /root is the home directory for the root user, it's not used during boot. |
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| 12:24 | <stevecotton> | Guest3402: rings a bell, depending on your BIOS |
| 12:24 | <Guest3402> | okay just a terminilogy thing I mean "/" |
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| 12:26 | <Guest3402> | asus m2v-mx with amd sepron 2ghz am2 64 bit award bios |
| 12:26 | <stevecotton> | are you completely reformatting the drive for this installation? |
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| 12:28 | <Guest3402> | yes, three times now 1) just used space on drive that worked! - later had a kernel issue so I tried to reinstall kernel as per rec but led to complete new install |
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| 12:29 | <Guest3402> | now after three tries I am frustrated |
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| 12:30 | <Guest3402> | I was trying to place several mount points in the install |
| 12:30 | <eht> | HELLO ALLZ!!! |
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| 12:30 | <Guest3402> | its supposed to make it more efficient |
| 12:30 | <Guest3402> | but now I don't know what to think or ... |
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| 12:31 | <stevecotton> | if you make a small partition at the start of the drive that gets mounted on /boot then it should work for lilo (only needs to be about 50MB). Not sure if Grub works that way, or if you need to get other files in there as well. |
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| 12:31 | <stevecotton> | that's /boot, not /root. Where the kernel images go. |
| 12:31 | <Guest3402> | did a cd-rom integrity check - passed perfectly as it should since i md5 hash checked before the burn |
| 12:32 | <Blind> | Can I get free psybnc.tk ? |
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| 12:32 | <stevecotton> | (I'm assuming that the error you're getting mentions "1024 cyclinders) |
| 12:32 | <Guest3402> | yeah that was going to be my next try - to open som space at the begining for the MBR |
| 12:33 | <fxiny> | a 64 cpu comes with a modern bios |
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| 12:33 | <Guest3402> | So can I make a parttion for mount point /boot? at begining of drive |
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| 12:33 | <stevecotton> | The MBR already has space reserved, it's the next stage of bootloading that would have the needs-space-at-the-start problem. |
| 12:33 | <fxiny> | f spammers ! |
| 12:34 | <fxiny> | hey |
| 12:34 | <stevecotton> | but fxiny has a point - your BIOS shouldn't need this, what I'm suggesting shouldn't work |
| 12:34 | <fxiny> | !ops spammers flooding |
| 12:34 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: fxiny complains about: spammers flooding |
| 12:34 | <stevecotton> | did you see a message about "1024 cyclinders"? |
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| 12:35 | <abrotman> | huh ? |
| 12:35 | <twb> | Typically one allocates a few hundres of megabytes for /boot, which is utilized about 10% on a normal single-kernel desktop system. |
| 12:35 | <Guest3402> | so there is a glitchy loading thing going on here - no error like that- using expertgui I do get this: |
| 12:35 | <fxiny> | abrotman: in my msg windows |
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| 12:35 | <abrotman> | i see now |
| 12:35 | <fxiny> | abrotman: prebet and friends |
| 12:36 | <Guest3402> | does it matter where I place /boot then? |
| 12:36 | <twb> | Guest3402: it doesn't matter where /boot is placed physically on the drive. |
| 12:36 | <fxiny> | Guest3402: only in pre '98 bios |
| 12:36 | <stevecotton> | what error do you get (it didn't show up) |
| 12:37 | <Guest3402> | sorry I got distracted hold on |
| 12:37 | <abrotman> | it only happens when you talk apparently ? |
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| 12:37 | <fxiny> | abrotman: yes |
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| 12:37 | <cahoot> | silence is golden |
| 12:37 | <twb> | abrotman: correct. |
| 12:37 | <abrotman> | Ganneff: is this something staff can take care of, or should i start banning all of them? |
| 12:37 | <fxiny> | same tk address |
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| 12:38 | <fxiny> | different nicks spamming same address |
| 12:38 | <Guest3402> | Its says I will have to boot using /vmlinuz kernel on /dev/sda1 and root=/dev/sda1 passed as an argument |
| 12:38 | <Guest3402> | thats a bit over my head |
| 12:38 | <fxiny> | test |
| 12:38 | <fxiny> | test test |
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| 12:38 | <fxiny> | abrotman: morethenonewordtriggersit |
| 12:38 | <Guest3402> | not getting grub to test lines with |
| 12:39 | <abrotman> | fxiny: i'm not sure if staff wants to kill them all or if i should |
| 12:39 | <fxiny> | abrotman: no idea |
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| 12:39 | <johnfg> | hi guys |
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| 12:39 | <johnfg> | Is firefox available for lenny? |
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| 12:39 | <Guest3402> | another question is the inode sizes is there any known issues with that? |
| 12:39 | <stevecotton> | !firefox |
| 12:39 | <dpkg> | i guess firefox is replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel>, <why iceweasel>. |
| 12:39 | <fxiny> | abrotman: being in the msg windows is a minor problem |
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| 12:40 | <Guest3402> | not getting errors about it but I am changing inode size per mount point |
| 12:40 | <fxiny> | abrotman: seems finished |
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| 12:41 | <simonrvn> | so why are you doing that then, if there's no problems? |
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| 12:41 | <abrotman> | we'll see |
| 12:41 | <Guest3402> | stevecotton did you see my error report from the expertgui |
| 12:41 | * | abrotman guesses staff is killing |
| 12:41 | <Guest3402> | copy |
| 12:41 | <fxiny> | abrotman: more then 40 nicks |
| 12:42 | <stevecotton> | ruddy spammer's been griefing (posting the URL and a ton of junk) in #debian-uk too. |
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| 12:43 | <Guest3402> | I was reading about the install and it makews sense to make tmp and var as large filesize inodes where home and usr and possibly other could be small at 4kB |
| 12:43 | <stevecotton> | Guest3402: only the one link about /dev/sda1 ? |
| 12:43 | <Ganneff> | i *think* i got most of them. |
| 12:43 | <fxiny> | nice |
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| 12:43 | <stevecotton> | thanks Ganneff |
| 12:44 | <Guest3402> | speed and efficiency but it is possible I am way over thinking it for a simple desktop environment |
| 12:45 | <johnfg> | I'm coming from using mysql as everything for my sql. Is there any kind of gui for postgresql like phpmyadmin? |
| 12:45 | <abrotman> | phppgadmin |
| 12:45 | <Guest3402> | yeah thats all it gave me, let me see if my debug can be retrieved - my brain is scatttered working for about two days on this crap now give me a minute |
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| 12:46 | <twb> | !kpogre |
| 12:46 | <twb> | !apt-cache show kpogre |
| 12:46 | <twb> | Bah. |
| 12:46 | <simonrvn> | um, try another window |
| 12:46 | <simonrvn> | without the ! this time ;) |
| 12:47 | <twb> | simonrvn: I was hoping dpkg would tell johnfg about it |
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| 12:47 | <twb> | Not that *I* did anything but "aptitude search ~dpostgres~dgui" |
| 12:47 | <simonrvn> | you want !info <package> |
| 12:48 | <fxiny> | simonrvn: i did it because i don't like spammers |
| 12:48 | <twb> | Bah. I'll never remember that! |
| 12:48 | <fxiny> | got it ? |
| 12:49 | <fxiny> | win gr 2 |
| 12:49 | <fxiny> | oops |
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| 12:55 | <client> | everytime i select my time zone as New York(EST) from the clock options it changes it to New York(UTC) and i think this is causing confusion with some programs |
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| 12:56 | <metalqga> | utc as universal time coordinated? |
| 12:56 | <client> | meta yea... |
| 12:57 | <client> | so i have some programs shownig GMT |
| 12:57 | <metalqga> | because utc is for london time |
| 12:58 | <client> | right... |
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| 12:58 | <client> | but in my options i hve selected New York |
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| 12:58 | <Guest3402> | I don't think the debug file was printed |
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| 12:59 | <client> | and after i apply it shows up as "new york UTC" and not "new york EST" as before i click apply |
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| 13:00 | <fxiny> | !setting time |
| 13:00 | <dpkg> | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch) or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid) and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
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| 13:02 | <Guest3402> | Anycase I will try the extra space thing at the beginning |
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| 13:13 | <xsdg> | metalqga: just for the record, UTC isn't "london time"; that's GMT |
| 13:14 | <xsdg> | metalqga: and note that london switches to BST over the summer. UTC has no notion of Daylight Savings |
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| 13:16 | <metalqga> | true, I just wanted to be understood so I kinda oversimplified my statement |
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| 13:19 | <johnfg> | !iceweasel |
| 13:19 | <dpkg> | i guess iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is different from GNU's version of Firefox, which formerly had the same name but is now known as IceCat (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/). To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>. |
| 13:19 | <johnfg> | !<why iceweasel> |
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| 13:25 | <stevecotton> | !tell johnfg about selftell |
| 13:26 | <metalqga> | 1940 stevecotton !firefox :D |
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| 13:27 | <k1lumin4t1> | is there any linux tool similar to those of Norton that clean/sweep a system? |
| 13:28 | <stevecotton> | which kind of clean/sweep do you want? |
| 13:28 | <metalqga> | maybe defrag, remove malware? :D |
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| 13:29 | <fxiny> | k1lumin4t1: you mean to sanitize a hd ? |
| 13:30 | <metalqga> | scrub :D |
| 13:30 | <k1lumin4t1> | fxiny, yes. To remove farbae, etc |
| 13:30 | <metalqga> | we have just been talking about it |
| 13:30 | <k1lumin4t1> | and defrag also |
| 13:30 | <cahoot> | that would remove the entire linux - no? |
| 13:30 | <fxiny> | k1lumin4t1: badblocks , dd, scrub |
| 13:31 | <k1lumin4t1> | fxiny, thanks |
| 13:32 | <fxiny> | k1lumin4t1: maybe you just want shred |
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| 13:32 | <fxiny> | i would not use shred to sanitize a hd |
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| 13:33 | <k1lumin4t1> | fxiny, shred? No, thanks. I'm better with sweep-picking |
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| 13:35 | <fxiny> | k1lumin4t1: defrag ? forget defragging , just be happy |
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| 13:36 | <doctor> | How do I disable the screensaver in GNOME via the console - IE without using the screensavers applet in the System menu? |
| 13:37 | <fxiny> | dunno why defrag is such an issue , this week :P |
| 13:37 | <k1lumin4t1> | fxiny, I can't find scrub |
| 13:37 | <fxiny> | k1lumin4t1: is on lenny |
| 13:37 | <metalqga> | !backport |
| 13:37 | <dpkg> | well, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 13:38 | <fxiny> | yiou can compile it or just use dd or badblocks |
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| 13:38 | <k1lumin4t1> | fxiny, I'm on Sid/Experimental |
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| 13:39 | <fxiny> | k1lumin4t1: i am on etch and i use scrub . i do not have nsa related secrets so scrub is ok :P |
| 13:39 | <fxiny> | and i do not want to boil my hd up |
| 13:39 | <k1lumin4t1> | yes but it's not on Sid then |
| 13:39 | <k1lumin4t1> | :( |
| 13:39 | <metalqga> | actually nsa loses secrets written on unencrypted usb keys every day |
| 13:39 | <fxiny> | actually i do not care at all : i have a fantastic full LUKS encrypted etch |
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| 13:40 | <fxiny> | i'm using it since last year and i never had a sigle problem : debian rulez |
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| 13:40 | <abrotman> | k1lumin4t1: the entire box? |
| 13:40 | <abrotman> | k1lumin4t1: or just single files? |
| 13:41 | <k1lumin4t1> | abrotman, the entire box |
| 13:41 | <fxiny> | scrub gently fills your hd up with a big file full of patterns . read scrub docs |
| 13:41 | <abrotman> | k1lumin4t1: no .. i mean to destroy/format/wipe disks |
| 13:41 | <k1lumin4t1> | abrotman, yes, the entire box |
| 13:41 | <abrotman> | !dban |
| 13:41 | <dpkg> | i heard dban is http://www.dban.org/ Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy/CD that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction. |
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| 13:42 | <fxiny> | abrotman: :) |
| 13:42 | <fxiny> | you know the art of reding ones mind :) |
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| 13:42 | <fxiny> | read* |
| 13:42 | <metalqga> | kind, don't do this at home |
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| 13:44 | <fxiny> | but why having such a bad life thinking about erasing personal data in a safe manner ? do the LUKS install and relax , beware of the ice man ... |
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| 13:45 | <raffaele68> | hello. |
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| 13:45 | <raffaele68> | i'm italian. |
| 13:46 | <abrotman> | we are not! |
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| 13:47 | <NTU> | is there a git repository for the debian kernel source with debian patches? similar to the ubuntu kernel git repositories or do people just use the source from kernel.org? |
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| 13:47 | <NTU> | if there is a git / cvs / svn kernel repository for debian, can i have the link? |
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| 13:48 | <NTU> | i've been looking all over and it says to use kernel.org |
| 13:48 | <fxiny> | couple of weeks ago , i read of the swiss (?) keyboard attack . so who is safe ? no one is . |
| 13:48 | <NTU> | fxiny, ... |
| 13:49 | <NTU> | i dont care about keyboard attacks |
| 13:49 | <fxiny> | and i do not care about ubuntu |
| 13:49 | <NTU> | im not talking about ubuntu |
| 13:49 | <fxiny> | really , i don't know anything about ubuntu |
| 13:49 | <abrotman> | NTU: you could poke around in git.debian.org or svn.debian.org |
| 13:50 | <NTU> | thanks abrotman |
| 13:50 | <fxiny> | ahh you talking aboiut debian kernel patches ? |
| 13:50 | <NTU> | durr |
| 13:50 | <Kosma> | I'm trying to build a cross-compiler (for ARM+newlib target), is there some dedicated channel for such topics? |
| 13:50 | <NTU> | yea fxiny |
| 13:50 | <NTU> | i said that more than once |
| 13:50 | <abrotman> | http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
| 13:51 | <NTU> | thanks |
| 13:51 | <fxiny> | NTU: apt-cache search kernel | grep patch |
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| 13:52 | <NTU> | i rather use git-clone http://kernel yada yada |
| 13:52 | <fxiny> | NTU: as usual debian does it better |
| 13:52 | <fxiny> | :)) |
| 13:52 | <NTU> | ? |
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| 13:52 | <NTU> | debian does what better? |
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| 13:52 | <fxiny> | that is a nice Manoj phrase i like |
| 13:53 | <fxiny> | i do like it |
| 13:53 | <metalqga> | serving users |
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| 13:55 | <fxiny> | he actually says "we can do it better" . being a user i do nothing , but i like positive people |
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| 13:55 | <fxiny> | complaining is not welcome my side of the moon |
| 13:56 | <NTU> | fxiny, i can't understand you well |
| 13:56 | <amphi> | heh |
| 13:56 | <fxiny> | NTU: no one can :) |
| 13:56 | <metalqga> | he's italian, that's why |
| 13:56 | <NTU> | oh |
| 13:56 | <metalqga> | :P |
| 13:57 | <fxiny> | me ? got nothing to do with banana republic |
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| 13:57 | <fxiny> | amphi: :) |
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| 13:57 | <metalqga> | we all know it's not a bp |
| 13:58 | <nubbun> | NTU: I've been wondering the same thing about 'what source' or if there is a set of patches. |
| 13:58 | <NTU> | i'll just use kernel.org |
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| 13:58 | <NTU> | i was looking for complete linux kernel source with debian patches |
| 13:58 | <NTU> | not seperate files. |
| 13:58 | <fxiny> | apt-cache show linux-patch-debian-2.6.1 |
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| 13:59 | <NTU> | thats a patch though |
| 13:59 | <NTU> | i want complete kernel source with debian patches. not just patches. and i want them all in tar.bz2 |
| 14:00 | <NTU> | i complain a lot. i know |
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| 14:00 | <metalqga> | debian generally works only with .deb packages |
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| 14:00 | <nubbun> | thanks fxiny |
| 14:01 | <NTU> | well thats when the tar xjvf comes in |
| 14:01 | <c36pop> | hi i m trying to install qt4-doc but i m getting that error ...qt4-doc_4.4.3-1_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch |
| 14:01 | <metalqga> | you must be reading to some howto compile a kernel |
| 14:01 | <fxiny> | nubbun: what for ? |
| 14:01 | <NTU> | i've compiled kernels in several linux distros without a howto |
| 14:01 | <NTU> | i dont need a howto |
| 14:02 | <abrotman> | NTU: did you check the git and svn repos? |
| 14:02 | <nubbun> | fxiny: for pointing out the patch package. |
| 14:02 | <NTU> | yeah but its all .deb packages |
| 14:02 | <fxiny> | i think there is perl script for compiling |
| 14:02 | <abrotman> | NTU: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel |
| 14:02 | <NTU> | i want to compile it my own |
| 14:02 | <fxiny> | nubbun: ahhh . np :) |
| 14:03 | <NTU> | i want to take a lot of crap off the kernel and make it small and turn off 75% of the stuff |
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| 14:03 | <NTU> | in the kernel config |
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| 14:03 | <c36pop> | NTU : you awant to compil a recent kernek and thats all ? |
| 14:03 | <NTU> | from source yes |
| 14:03 | <NTU> | with debian patches |
| 14:04 | <abrotman> | NTU: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel |
| 14:04 | <c36pop> | make-kpkg --append-to-version "-blablabla" --initrd buildpackage --config menuconfig |
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| 14:04 | <c36pop> | thats the command i use each time |
| 14:04 | <NTU> | me too |
| 14:04 | <fxiny> | NTU: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/620 |
| 14:04 | <c36pop> | ok :) |
| 14:04 | <NTU> | but finding the source |
| 14:04 | <NTU> | with debian patches in the source. |
| 14:05 | <fxiny> | 14 seconds of faaaameeee |
| 14:05 | <c36pop> | ha ok |
| 14:05 | <NTU> | not from a .deb package. |
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| 14:06 | <doctor> | fxiny: there's no way you'll ever get THAT. |
| 14:06 | <NTU> | faaaaaaaameeeeeeeee? |
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| 14:06 | <c36pop> | hi i m trying to install qt4-doc but i m getting that error ...qt4-doc_4.4.3-1_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch |
| 14:06 | <c36pop> | what does it mean |
| 14:07 | <NTU> | it means the md5 doesn't match up |
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| 14:07 | <metalqga> | download the package again |
| 14:07 | <NTU> | yeah |
| 14:07 | <fxiny> | doctor: debian-administration.org says is possible , i believe it is |
| 14:07 | <fxiny> | why not ? |
| 14:07 | <fxiny> | read it |
| 14:07 | <nubbun> | NTU: he meant 'faaaaaaaaaaaame' |
| 14:07 | <doctor> | fxiny: no, I meant your fifteen seconds of fame. |
| 14:08 | <NTU> | oh. heh |
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| 14:09 | <Blind> | I wanna run real player on Linux Os |
| 14:09 | <Blind> | plz help me |
| 14:09 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | use wine |
| 14:09 | <fxiny> | doctor: we all can have 15 minutes :) |
| 14:09 | <abrotman> | why? there is realplayer for linux .. |
| 14:09 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | i like the windows version better |
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| 14:10 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | i use vlc a lot though too. except the vlc devs cant program good |
| 14:10 | <amphi> | mplayer can play [some] 'realmeeja' files |
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| 14:10 | <fxiny> | nubbun: yahhhhhh faaaaame as in sheep on drugs 15 minutes of faaaaaame |
| 14:10 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | realplayer 10 for windows works great for me |
| 14:10 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | on linux |
| 14:11 | <fxiny> | no ones remember shod |
| 14:11 | <Blind> | TwoLegitNoQuit how can I get this? |
| 14:11 | <amphi> | realplayer is not in debian |
| 14:11 | <Always> | i have |
| 14:11 | * | fxiny goes back listening to Mozart |
| 14:11 | <abrotman> | TwoLegitNoQuit: there is real player for linux .. why would you run the windows version? |
| 14:12 | <diocles> | You don't need realplayer, anyway, you just need the codecs to play Real streams. |
| 14:12 | <Always> | mplayer running |
| 14:12 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | abrotman, because it runs fine in wine thanks to me |
| 14:12 | <Always> | w32codecs or w64codecs |
| 14:12 | <abrotman> | wtf |
| 14:12 | <amphi> | ugh, wine |
| 14:12 | <abrotman> | Blind: just use the linux version of real player .. ignore TwoLegitNoQuit |
| 14:13 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | wine works good if you know how to use it like a pro |
| 14:13 | <Blind> | abrotman yes |
| 14:13 | <amphi> | it does nothing I want |
| 14:13 | <Always> | add deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ release main in /etc/apt/asources.list |
| 14:13 | <diocles> | Wine is free as in beer. Wait... |
| 14:13 | <metalqga> | we all know you are a pro NTU |
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| 14:13 | <Always> | apt-get install realplayer |
| 14:13 | <amphi> | information wants to be beer! |
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| 14:14 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | metalqga, im not exactly a "pro" |
| 14:14 | <diocles> | Hmm, I think I've got some wine downstairs. |
| 14:14 | <metalqga> | quite few windows users manage to install ubuntu, you are one of the sharpest tools in the box |
| 14:14 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | what the hell is with everybody against wine? |
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| 14:14 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | its a better windows emulator that anybody here can write |
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| 14:14 | <metalqga> | whiskey for me please :P |
| 14:14 | <metalqga> | wine is not an emulator |
| 14:14 | <Always> | simulator |
| 14:15 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | if you guys are all such great programmers, how about you go write an application thats better than wine? jesus christ |
| 14:15 | <Always> | wine ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winver.exe |
| 14:15 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | !ot |
| 14:15 | <dpkg> | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
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| 14:16 | <metalqga> | I'm just a desktop user, reading mail and posting in forums |
| 14:17 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | then i would stop acting like an ass |
| 14:17 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | you're welcome |
| 14:17 | <diocles> | TwoLegitNoQuit: Actually, we just need to write something better than Realplayer. |
| 14:17 | <amphi> | or just not bother with 'real media' at all |
| 14:17 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | ok im in |
| 14:18 | <abrotman> | diocles: that's been done .. many times |
| 14:18 | <metalqga> | and vlc is a great player |
| 14:18 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | i'll just make my own version of realplayer |
| 14:18 | <diocles> | Oh wait, there's totem. :) And it's playing my Real streams. Well, how about that. |
| 14:18 | <metalqga> | runs on any machine and runs anything |
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| 14:18 | <TwoLegitNoQuit> | ah vlc. i hate vlc. i mean it works good but... the devs has such egos |
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| 14:20 | * | diocles turns on BBC Radio 1. Awesome, I am now socially 'cool'. |
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| 14:21 | * | fxiny moved from xmms2 to mpd |
| 14:24 | <twb> | BBC 4 is the Home Service, but what's Radio 1? |
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| 14:25 | <diocles> | 'cool' |
| 14:25 | <fxiny> | can't be better then digimport |
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| 14:26 | <twb> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Home_Service#Becomes_BBC_Radio_4 explains the new-fangled names |
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| 14:27 | <fxiny> | is BBC linux friendly ? |
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| 14:29 | <diocles> | twb: Also, be careful - 'BBC 4' is a TV channel. :) |
| 14:29 | <twb> | Television doesn't count. |
| 14:30 | <fxiny> | exactly , television is dead |
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| 14:35 | <adb> | kpogre |
| 14:35 | <stevecotton> | fxiny: it's streaming video service isn't, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_iPlayer |
| 14:35 | <stevecotton> | its |
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| 14:36 | <abrotman> | i thought they changed it to work in linux |
| 14:36 | <c36pop> | hi i have a lot of packagein that state : Package libswt-gtk-3.3-jni is not available, but is referred to by another package. is it notmsl ? |
| 14:36 | <c36pop> | normal ? |
| 14:37 | <fxiny> | stevecotton: i was not sure . that's why i asked . |
| 14:37 | <diocles> | Streaming works fine with Adobe flash. |
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| 14:37 | <fxiny> | adobe is evil |
| 14:38 | <diocles> | c36pop: New packages should depend on libswt-gtk-3.4-jni - have you updated recently? |
| 14:38 | <c36pop> | yes |
| 14:39 | <c36pop> | and i have a message like .... obsolete ... type apt-get autoremove ..... |
| 14:39 | <diocles> | Well, you could do that. |
| 14:39 | <fxiny> | last debconf showed how with almost no money linux can do streming . given the sheer amout of cash BBC has you can just see how adobe is evil |
| 14:40 | <c36pop> | but it wants to remove programs like multisync ..... |
| 14:40 | <fxiny> | they never learn and they are almost bankrupt , see wall street stocks , they really never learn |
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| 14:41 | <knoppix_> | xtr |
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| 14:42 | <diocles> | c36pop: Check your sources.list is right, then run apt-get upgrade... and if that fails, apt-get install multisync... |
| 14:42 | <diocles> | It might just be marked as automatically installed. |
| 14:42 | <c36pop> | diocles : ok |
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| 14:43 | <johns> | Any suggestions for how to get more debug info for an "Unable to get on D-Bus" error? I just built bluez and that's the error that bluetoothd is giving me. |
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| 14:43 | <Guest3418> | stevecotton - you still here? |
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| 14:46 | <Guest3418> | I was here earlier |
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| 14:46 | <Gregasus> | Anybody home? |
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| 14:46 | <Guest3418> | doing a debian install with trouble - no boot grub not there |
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| 14:47 | <Gregasus> | did you configure it? |
| 14:47 | <Guest3418> | anyway here is my partition setup for the install I am about to do - see anything wrong with it? |
| 14:47 | <Guest3418> | Partions for etch install on /dev/sdc |
| 14:47 | <Guest3418> | /dev/sdc 8Mib unallocated space |
| 14:47 | <Guest3418> | /dev/sdc1 2+Gig / pri |
| 14:47 | <Guest3418> | /dev/sdc3 500 MiB /boot pri |
| 14:47 | <Guest3418> | /dev/sdc2 72 Gig ext |
| 14:47 | -!- | Guest3418 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 14:48 | <diocles> | Yes, it appears to have been pasted into #debian. :/ |
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| 14:49 | * | johns tries d-feet |
| 14:49 | <Guest3418> | back I guess I flooded sorry |
| 14:49 | <Gregasus> | there's nothing wrong with you're partitions |
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| 14:50 | <Guest3418> | cool |
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| 14:50 | <Gregasus> | why don't you try to boot puppy linux from a stick it has a grub config build in |
| 14:50 | <Guest3418> | I plan to make them all the standard inode size for symetry reasons |
| 14:51 | <diocles> | johns: You might get more error messages from /var/log/syslog |
| 14:51 | <johns> | diocles: yeah, only the same info there unfortunately |
| 14:51 | <Guest3418> | why is that? |
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| 14:52 | <diocles> | johns: Is this bluez from upstream or from Debian packages? |
| 14:52 | <johns> | diocles: upstream |
| 14:53 | <Guest3418> | so when I paste text here I nedd to preceed it with #flood so i do not get booted off, is that correct? |
| 14:53 | <diocles> | johns: Any particular reason? |
| 14:53 | <ucu> | Guest3138: or: |
| 14:53 | <ucu> | !paste |
| 14:53 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 14:54 | <diocles> | Guest3418: No, the topic refers to the #flood channel. |
| 14:54 | <diocles> | But obviously not everyone is in there. |
| 14:54 | <ucu> | to paste on #flood is quite pointless cause very few people of #debian idle there |
| 14:55 | <Guest3418> | Thanks, so for a debup readout or something large like that use the above links to post to and provide a url instead |
| 14:55 | <ucu> | yep |
| 14:55 | <johns> | diocles: a2dp support primarily, under the new service system -- but with the debian packages in sid I was also unable to pair with input devices, and from reading it seems to be a known issue |
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| 14:57 | <Guest3418> | so if I only have a few lines I can paste thme here or is that just annoying? perhaps there is a better channel to use fro this kind of thing? Just want to be properly using the resource. |
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| 14:58 | <ucu> | more than 2 lines --> http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 14:58 | <diocles> | johns: The bluetooth maintainers don't have much of an IRC channel - have you tried the mailing list? |
| 14:59 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 366] by debhelper |
| 14:59 | <diocles> | johns: http://wiki.debian.org/Bluetooth has some information. |
| 14:59 | <Guest3418> | diocles -> you stated I may get more error messages with this config...could you explain that to me? |
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| 14:59 | <diocles> | Guest3418: I was talking to johns then, I'm afraid. |
| 14:59 | <Guest3418> | oops |
| 15:00 | <johns> | diocles: I haven't tried the mailing list yet, no, I guess that's the next step |
| 15:00 | <Guest3418> | diocles -> do you see anything wrong with my partion config as pasted above? |
| 15:01 | <diocles> | Guest3418: It has /boot at the end, which is a bit odd. Usually it would come first. |
| 15:01 | <diocles> | Guest3418: Have you tried the automatic partitioner in the debian installer? |
| 15:02 | <Guest3418> | diocles: yeah, I have been reinstalling this for about 2 days now |
| 15:02 | <Guest3418> | expertgui |
| 15:03 | <diocles> | Why 'expert'? |
| 15:03 | <Guest3418> | the install fails at the grub install |
| 15:03 | <Guest3418> | previously I had it going to MBR |
| 15:03 | <diocles> | WHy is the disk on /dev/sdc? Do you have two other disks? |
| 15:03 | <Guest3418> | for more control |
| 15:03 | <Guest3418> | yes |
| 15:03 | <diocles> | Is your BIOS looking for grub on /dev/sda? |
| 15:04 | <diocles> | Specifically, on the MBR of /dev/sda? |
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| 15:05 | <Guest3418> | the install gui says sda but when booting with Knoppix its sdc I could have a misconfig in the bios for hard drives |
| 15:05 | <Guest3418> | I have four SATA devices |
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| 15:06 | <diocles> | Make sure your BIOS is looking at the Debian drive first in the boot order, then. Install grub to the MBR. |
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| 15:07 | <Guest3418> | Okay - I thought I had done that from the beginning but there could still be an issue. |
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| 15:07 | <Guest3418> | ASUS board is wierd |
| 15:08 | <Guest3418> | it has SATA IDE controller with two SATA ports then a seperate SATAE1 and SATAE2 |
| 15:09 | <Guest3418> | first HD and CD on SATA IDE or Master IDE 3 and 4 then the others |
| 15:09 | <Guest3418> | on SATAE1 and SATA2 |
| 15:10 | <Guest3418> | SATAE2 |
| 15:10 | <Guest3418> | supposedly handles two IDE and two SATA on first controller then has Jmicron for the oher two |
| 15:11 | * | diocles sips his wine. |
| 15:11 | <Guest3418> | its a good story huh... |
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| 15:12 | <Guest3418> | diocles-> you have any ideas about this? |
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| 15:12 | <pepelucho> | sex un live ... are you need sex?? , pic and videos p0rn click here : http://www.peruanasricas.com |
| 15:13 | <pepelucho> | sex un live ... are you need sex?? , pic and videos p0rn click here : http://www.peruanasricas.com |
| 15:13 | <pepelucho> | sex un live ... are you need sex?? , pic and videos p0rn click here : http://www.peruanasricas.com |
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| 15:13 | <Guest3418> | Beuhler...anyone...anyone |
| 15:14 | <diocles> | Guest3418: Ideas? No. |
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| 15:14 | <Guest3418> | okay |
| 15:14 | <t6435bm> | hello. i want to change gnome's interface language, and i don't see anything in synaptics |
| 15:15 | <t6435bm> | i come from the ubuntu world. there you find the packages and you have a gnome-language-selector |
| 15:15 | <t6435bm> | how can i do this things in lenny? |
| 15:15 | <Guest3418> | right well I guess I'll do some research on this and get back to you later, thanks for the information |
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| 15:18 | <diocles> | t6435bm: First, have you configured your locales? (Does /etc/locale.gen have an uncommented line with your language on it?) |
| 15:19 | <diocles> | If it does, then you just need to choose your language at the gnome login screen. |
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| 15:19 | <t6435bm> | yes |
| 15:20 | <t6435bm> | ok. i configured my locales, i have de_DE.UTF8 and es_VE.UTF8 |
| 15:20 | <t6435bm> | but if i select them in gdm, i receive a message saying "de_DE.UTF8 cannot be found. using default language" |
| 15:21 | <diocles> | Have you run 'locale-gen'? |
| 15:21 | <t6435bm> | if i export de LANG variable in a console, the help-texts from the commands are in [german], inside that console... |
| 15:21 | <t6435bm> | running.... |
| 15:21 | <t6435bm> | "Generation Complete" |
| 15:21 | <t6435bm> | i'll return in a minute. |
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| 15:24 | <t6435bm_> | i'm back. "de_DE.UTF8 doesn't exist". |
| 15:24 | <t6435bm_> | (using default language) |
| 15:24 | <t6435bm_> | :( |
| 15:24 | <diocles> | Oh dear. |
| 15:24 | <t6435bm_> | in ubuntu you have to download translation packages... for gnome and that. |
| 15:25 | <diocles> | t6435bm: By the way, there's always #debian.de for German-language support. |
| 15:25 | <t6435bm_> | there must be something similar in lenny... |
| 15:25 | <t6435bm_> | i know. |
| 15:25 | <t6435bm_> | went there. |
| 15:25 | <t6435bm_> | they told me not to use gnome. |
| 15:25 | <t6435bm_> | :( |
| 15:25 | <diocles> | Heh. |
| 15:25 | <t6435bm_> | hehe |
| 15:26 | <t6435bm_> | is there a spanish channel? could go there also.. i tried #debian.es but there is nothing there |
| 15:26 | <diocles> | #debian-es |
| 15:26 | <t6435bm_> | welly... let me try there... thanks, diocles |
| 15:26 | <Bushmills> | t6435bm, on irc.freenode.org maybe |
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| 15:27 | <diocles> | No, it's here. |
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| 15:28 | <t6435bm_> | let me try #debian-de. maybe there is someone "helpy" there... #debian-es is silent silent... |
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| 15:29 | <t6435bm_> | there is no debian-de. |
| 15:29 | <diocles> | t6435bm: You're right, I've tried it on my machine and I get that error. |
| 15:29 | <Bushmills> | t6435bm debian.de |
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| 15:33 | <diocles> | t6435bm_: But it works in French. |
| 15:33 | <diocles> | So, there's a bug! |
| 15:33 | <csc_> | t6435bm_: Did you try dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 15:34 | <t6435bm_> | csc: yes. |
| 15:34 | <t6435bm_> | csc: i get the help for the commands in german/spanish. |
| 15:34 | <t6435bm_> | the problem is gnome |
| 15:34 | <diocles> | Now, I probably added fr_FR with dpkg-reconfigure locales, I wonder if it makes a difference. |
| 15:34 | <t6435bm_> | someone in debian-es told me the KDE packages are called 'i18n' |
| 15:34 | <csc_> | t6435bm_: so gdm lets you choose your preferred language and then login fails with an error message ? |
| 15:35 | <t6435bm_> | yes. |
| 15:35 | <csc_> | t6435bm_: for what locale ? |
| 15:35 | <t6435bm_> | it even says "Willkommen" and/or "Bienvenido", and asks in geman/spanish if i want to keep the language for all sessions. |
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| 15:36 | <t6435bm_> | but it says 'username' and 'password always in english and then it says the language doesn't exists. |
| 15:36 | <t6435bm_> | doesn't exist. |
| 15:36 | <t6435bm_> | sorry. |
| 15:36 | * | taziden écoute : Deportivo - En ouvrant la porte |
| 15:36 | <taziden> | oops |
| 15:36 | <taziden> | wrong chan |
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| 15:37 | <t6435bm_> | csc: i have the following locales: de_DE.utf8 and es_VE.utf8 |
| 15:37 | <t6435bm_> | csc: and as i said... they work in the consoles. |
| 15:38 | <csc_> | t6435bm_: is that a typo ? I mean that should read de_DE.UTF-8 and es_VE.UTF-8 with capital letters for UTF-8 |
| 15:38 | <t6435bm_> | csc: yes. they are capital letters |
| 15:38 | <csc_> | ok |
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| 15:39 | <t6435bm_> | csc: as i told you... if i export LANG in a console, it works. from the expirience with ubuntu, i know there must one package pro language, that you have to download. |
| 15:39 | <t6435bm_> | there are i18n packages for kde... there must be some for gnome. |
| 15:39 | <t6435bm_> | :( |
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| 15:43 | <Piet> | has http://www.cpni.gov.uk/Docs/Vulnerability_Advisory_SSH.txt already been discussed here? |
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| 15:45 | <t6435bm_> | ok, people. i export LC_ALL in a console, i run gedit from there... und it's in german / spanish |
| 15:47 | <stevecotton> | Hmm - a new SSH vulnerability, not the one that happened six months ago. |
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| 15:50 | <t6435bm> | ehhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 15:50 | <t6435bm> | it's done. |
| 15:50 | <csc_> | t6435bm_: just tried that. for etch things work |
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| 15:50 | <t6435bm> | csc: someone told me /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 15:50 | <t6435bm> | csc: it worked. |
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| 15:51 | <csc_> | of course it works !?! |
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| 15:51 | <t6435bm> | csc: it works. thanks, csc |
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| 15:53 | <kleinlaut> | hello, I'm running an etch server behind my firewall I used it mainly as storage that's why it is behind NAT |
| 15:53 | <kleinlaut> | but I just installed VHCS2 into it |
| 15:53 | <kleinlaut> | to host small website |
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| 15:53 | <kleinlaut> | and ftp and mail |
| 15:54 | <kleinlaut> | my problem is that the DNS do not seams to work properly |
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| 15:54 | <kleinlaut> | I created a dyndns account |
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| 15:54 | <kleinlaut> | whildcard is activated |
| 15:55 | <kleinlaut> | but if I can reach VHCS2 |
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| 15:55 | <kleinlaut> | It only redirect to the panel not to the website hosted |
| 15:56 | <kleinlaut> | port 53 is redirected to the IP of the server |
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| 15:56 | <kleinlaut> | but if I try www.mydomain.tld |
| 15:56 | <kleinlaut> | or subdomain.mydomain.tld |
| 15:57 | <kleinlaut> | I have always the samething |
| 15:57 | <kleinlaut> | VHCS panel |
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| 15:57 | <kleinlaut> | I suppose I have to make a special config for bind |
| 15:57 | <kleinlaut> | but what? |
| 15:57 | <Piet> | kleinlaut: this sounds like your web server is not setup the wy you need it to be setup |
| 15:57 | <Bushmills> | kleinlaut: that's all dns does. hostname to ip |
| 15:58 | <Bushmills> | other problem -> different cause |
| 15:58 | <kleinlaut> | Piet, so it would be an apache misconfiguration? |
| 15:59 | <Piet> | kleinlaut: so you have setup multiple dyndns hostnames and have scripts running to update all of them (in case your ip address is dynamically assigned / not static) |
| 15:59 | <Piet> | ? |
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| 16:00 | <Piet> | or is it that you are trying to address the virtual hosts by different ports on one domain? |
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| 16:01 | <kleinlaut> | Piet, my IP is static I have setup only one domain : domain.dyndns.org |
| 16:01 | <kleinlaut> | it points OK to my debian server (port 80 and 53 are redirected) |
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| 16:02 | <kleinlaut> | the problem is that it do not redirect to the right place |
| 16:02 | <Piet> | ah you want to address different virtual hosts via subdomains, sorry i missed that bit |
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| 16:02 | <kleinlaut> | Piet, yes |
| 16:03 | <kleinlaut> | I can enter any subdomain or even www.mydomain.tld |
| 16:03 | <Piet> | so make sure these virtual hosts are set up oon your web server |
| 16:03 | <kleinlaut> | OK let me check in that direction |
| 16:03 | <kleinlaut> | I was checking bind |
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| 16:03 | <kleinlaut> | thanks for your help |
| 16:04 | <Piet> | welcome |
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| 16:06 | <johns> | diocles: hah, figured it out |
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| 16:06 | <johns> | diocles: bluetooth.conf wasn't installed to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ |
| 16:06 | <diocles> | Ah, wie schoen. :) And we didn't even need to go to #debian.de. |
| 16:06 | <johns> | so the bluetooth security policies weren't loaded |
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| 16:25 | <kleinlaut> | Piet, so I check out the vhosts |
| 16:25 | <kleinlaut> | <VirtualHost _default_:*> works correctly |
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| 16:26 | <kleinlaut> | but the other one : <VirtualHost xx.xx.Xx.xx:80> |
| 16:27 | <kleinlaut> | where xx is my external ip |
| 16:27 | <kleinlaut> | this one do not work |
| 16:29 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 360] by debhelper |
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| 16:32 | <Piet> | kleinlaut: you probably want to use name based virtual hosts, not ip based |
| 16:33 | <Piet> | kleinlaut: to have different websites on different hostnames, you need different virtual hosts. set up a virtualhost for each subdomain you want to use a different website on |
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| 16:34 | <Piet> | i guess how to achieve this, is more a question or #nameofyourwebserver or #vhcs in the end, not so much of #debian |
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| 16:35 | <kleinlaut> | thank you Piet |
| 16:35 | <kleinlaut> | I'll look in that direction |
| 16:35 | <Piet> | good luck |
| 16:35 | <Piet> | i'll be gone for a while now |
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| 17:01 | <Guest3440> | hi |
| 17:01 | <Guest3440> | do u read me? |
| 17:01 | <Guest3440> | #join linux |
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| 17:02 | <Guest3440> | hii |
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| 17:07 | <binarymutant> | does ddrescue and gddrescue do the same thing? |
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| 17:12 | <simonrvn> | more or less.. one of them has better features/works better or something. |
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| 17:14 | <francisco> | Buenas, alguien que sepa espanol |
| 17:15 | <francisco> | Some body speak spanish? |
| 17:15 | <diocles> | francisco: Try #debian-es |
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| 17:15 | <francisco> | thanks |
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| 17:28 | <yomismosolo> | good afternoon |
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| 17:28 | <user01> | lenny is stable? |
| 17:29 | <algspd> | anyone knows how to disable recommended packages on apt-build? |
| 17:29 | <ucu> | user01: not yet |
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| 17:29 | <user01> | oh thought i saw it on slashdot but that is release candidate |
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| 17:30 | <algspd> | when i try to install pbuilder, apt-build tryes to install lots of packages |
| 17:30 | <algspd> | how can i solve it? |
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| 17:30 | <user01> | when it goes stable it automatically upgrade from etch right? |
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| 17:31 | <algspd> | only if you write "stable" instead of "etch" in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:31 | <ucu> | user01: when you have "stable" instead of "etch" in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:31 | <algspd> | lol |
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| 17:33 | <bgat> | I'm wanting to install Apache JMeter on sid, for which there is no debian package. Usually I take that as a "warning sign" of some kind. :) |
| 17:34 | <bgat> | Anything I need to be aware of? |
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| 17:35 | <sdfsdf> | PORCOOOOO |
| 17:35 | <sdfsdf> | DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 17:36 | <sdfsdf> | INGLISH |
| 17:36 | <sdfsdf> | DI MERDA |
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| 17:39 | <jlaroche> | hey everyong |
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| 17:39 | <jlaroche> | everyone |
| 17:39 | <jlaroche> | i am having trouble getting 7.1 speakers working with ubuntu 8.10 64bit |
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| 17:41 | <binarymutant> | should ddrescue be superseded by gddrescue? At what point could that happen? |
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| 17:45 | <jlaroche> | could anyone help me with 7.1 speakers in Ubuntu |
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| 17:46 | <Slurb> | how do you reconfigure xorg |
| 17:46 | <Slurb> | with dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 17:52 | <binarymutant> | Slurb, i dont think it works anymore, it used to guess when reconfiguring but idk anymore |
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| 17:53 | <duraperi1ol> | hellof |
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| 17:54 | <Slurb> | im figuring it out |
| 17:54 | <Slurb> | just bought a new monitor |
| 17:54 | <Slurb> | 22" widescreen |
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| 17:56 | <binarymutant> | Slurb if you need the template it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 17:56 | <binarymutant> | or dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg |
| 17:56 | <binarymutant> | something like that Slurb |
| 17:57 | <cahoot> | Slurb: xrandr -q doesn't show the new monitor? |
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| 18:08 | <victor> | hi every boyd |
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| 18:09 | <victor> | hello |
| 18:09 | <CaptJack> | Evening all |
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| 18:10 | <tmg1|emacs> | is packages.debian.org down for anyone else? |
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| 18:12 | <tmg1|emacs> | oh weird |
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| 18:13 | <tmg1|emacs> | it loads in links just fine, must be something wrong with dillo |
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| 18:55 | <x> | identify |
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| 18:58 | <x> | hello |
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| 19:00 | <x> | so I need some help with install failure...getting grub stage 1.5 then grub loading then error21 |
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| 19:02 | <x> | debhelper |
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| 19:03 | <x> | you mean people have lives |
| 19:03 | <x> | pos |
| 19:04 | <x> | pab |
| 19:04 | <x> | aaron |
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| 19:07 | <x> | hello |
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| 19:09 | <themill> | http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Troubleshooting.html#Troubleshooting |
| 19:09 | <LL00> | hello |
| 19:10 | <themill> | x: 21 : Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system. |
| 19:10 | <LL00> | I did sgml to pdf with debiandoc2pdf, how I can do xml to pdf ? I got error messages |
| 19:10 | <x> | okay |
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| 19:11 | <LL00> | it's about d-i manual xml files |
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| 19:12 | <x> | themill: but I saw the install partitions in the expertgui |
| 19:12 | <x> | is it possible I intalled the grub into a disk 1 when it should have been disk 2 |
| 19:12 | <x> | i have sda sdb sdc |
| 19:12 | <x> | I installed into sdb |
| 19:13 | <x> | but I think thre grub installed to sda |
| 19:14 | <x> | Is there a way I can hack this through using knoppix to load and then go to what folder and do what? |
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| 19:15 | <x> | well thanks anyway going back to hacking |
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| 19:19 | <Web-sidux379> | hi leute |
| 19:19 | <Web-sidux379> | kurze frage |
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| 19:20 | <Web-sidux379> | kann als root scannen, aber nicht als normaler user |
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| 19:20 | <Web-sidux379> | wie kann ich als normaler user scannen? |
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| 19:21 | <Web-sidux379> | ich habe keine rechte als normaler user |
| 19:21 | <blarson> | !tell Web-sidux379 about de |
| 19:22 | <Web-sidux379> | okay, thank you =) |
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| 19:27 | <x> | anyone here |
| 19:28 | <pbe> | I have a question. I've installed some window managers just for testing and now I want to remove them. I used aptitude remove PACKAGE --purge. However, it seems like there's tons of files left on the filesystem from these packages. How do I make sure that everything is deleted? |
| 19:29 | -!- | aaron is now known as aaronbrown1988 |
| 19:29 | <x> | not sure but try: man -k aptitude |
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| 19:29 | <x> | may provide more than one way |
| 19:30 | <x> | So I can see the grub file menu.list |
| 19:30 | <x> | is there a way I can make changes and then save while I am in knoppix session |
| 19:31 | <aaronbrown1988> | pbe: Are you looking to remove the config files, or any packages the window managers were dependant on? |
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| 19:32 | <pbe> | aaronbrown1988: The config files. Awesome for example, leaves some hidden folders in ~/ |
| 19:32 | <pbe> | makes me wonder if there's something else I have to manually remove |
| 19:33 | <aaronbrown1988> | pbe: hidden files in ~/ would be left as they weren;t installed with the package, awesome would have copied them there when it was first run. So i'm not sure if there's a way to remove those. |
| 19:34 | <aaronbrown1988> | pbe: other than just deleting them by hand |
| 19:34 | <Halitech> | aaronbrown1988, would deborphan work for those files? |
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| 19:35 | <pbe> | aaronbrown1988: ok, so it's just the config files and not something else? |
| 19:35 | <aaronbrown1988> | Halitech: I've not really used deborphan so I'm not too sure. |
| 19:36 | <x> | so I need some help hacking my new install - I have an error21 |
| 19:36 | <Bushmills> | no, it won't |
| 19:36 | <Halitech> | aaronbrown1988, me either Bushmills ok, wasn't sure so thought I'd mention it |
| 19:36 | <x> | debian etch installed, now running knoppix to hack it |
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| 19:38 | <aaronbrown1988> | pbe: aptitude purge package says it will remove config files and such as well. Although I think it only removes the system wide ones that get installed. ie the default ones in /usr/share. |
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| 19:39 | <Bushmills> | yes, removes only those files the installer knows about. files in /home are created per user, after iinstallation |
| 19:40 | <x> | hello testing...can anyone see this msg |
| 19:40 | <Bushmills> | would be a bit fiddly, running through all user home dir hunting down those files |
| 19:40 | <Bushmills> | in addition, there is a lot of conflict potential |
| 19:41 | <x> | Bushmills: |
| 19:41 | <pab> | x, this is the best guy I know for explaining grub (if that is what you need) http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147959&highlight=grub |
| 19:41 | <Bushmills> | imagine a net share home dir, with apps installed on a remote machine, used with user home dir from where those packages are removed |
| 19:41 | <x> | pab: thanks for your help I'll check it out |
| 19:41 | <pbe> | I see, thanks. |
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| 19:47 | <Bushmills> | was dpkg's (channel bot) former name apt? |
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| 19:50 | <binarymutant> | can oftc register names? |
| 19:52 | <mikegrb> | hmm? |
| 19:52 | <mikegrb> | you mean nicks? |
| 19:52 | <binarymutant> | ya but nm, I got it |
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| 19:59 | * | AzaTht likes code generators creating 3 million lines of c++ code |
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| 20:02 | <arthrotec> | Hello |
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| 20:03 | <sandsmark> | hmm, how does one backport a package? |
| 20:03 | <sandsmark> | doesn't the bot have a nice and short howto? |
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| 20:04 | <binarymutant> | sandsmark, on backports or itself? |
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| 20:04 | <sandsmark> | binarymutant: howto on backporting a single package from one release to another |
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| 20:04 | <binarymutant> | did you msg backport to dpkg? |
| 20:05 | <sandsmark> | thanks =) |
| 20:05 | <binarymutant> | np |
| 20:05 | <sandsmark> | "simple sid backport" was what I was looking for =) |
| 20:06 | <urusaipoppu> | can anybody help me, I'm trying to host multiple domains on my debian server but from the internal network I cannot access my sites from the domain.com I have to access from the internal IP, the domains work fine outside the internal network |
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| 20:07 | <Bushmills> | urusaipoppu: put host names into your /etc/hosts and associate them with the LAN address of your server |
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| 20:07 | <Bushmills> | urusaipoppu: or access your server through a public proxy |
| 20:07 | <abdelkhalak> | hi |
| 20:08 | <urusaipoppu> | Bushmills, on my server or my other machines? |
| 20:08 | <Bushmills> | urusaipoppu: i don'r know of any other machines |
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| 20:08 | <Bushmills> | on the machine you try to access the server from |
| 20:09 | <urusaipoppu> | is there an /etc/hosts on os x? |
| 20:09 | <Bushmills> | urusaipoppu: you might want to ask that on an os x specific channel |
| 20:09 | <urusaipoppu> | k |
| 20:09 | <urusaipoppu> | cheers |
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| 20:11 | <erKURITA> | urusaipoppu there should be |
| 20:11 | <erKURITA> | given that OSX is a Unix |
| 20:11 | <urusaipoppu> | okies I'll have a look around google |
| 20:11 | <erKURITA> | uh, can't you just ls /etc/hosts ? |
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| 20:12 | <urusaipoppu> | yup |
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| 20:15 | <urusaipoppu> | thanks guys that worked a treat :) |
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| 20:20 | <knoppix_> | berry |
| 20:20 | <slothy> | quick awk question: i basically have two text files of data annoyingly starting with either x= y or x = y . i |
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| 20:21 | <slothy> | i am trying to set up a conditional statement with awk that only pipes the output into a file if $2 == "=" |
| 20:21 | <Guest3464> | nope... I am just trying my new os |
| 20:21 | <Guest3464> | slothy are you she or he? |
| 20:22 | <slothy> | sheee |
| 20:22 | <Guest3464> | good... are you in usa |
| 20:23 | <slothy> | not important |
| 20:23 | <Guest3464> | Ok |
| 20:23 | <slothy> | ./test${i}.sh | awk '$2 != "=" {print $1,$2,"hello"}' > test${i}list |
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| 20:23 | <slothy> | for the case of x= y |
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| 20:23 | <Bushmills> | slothy: must be an awk script? or is the script only extracting $2? |
| 20:24 | <slothy> | the bash part at the beginning just creates the files that have x = y or x= y |
| 20:24 | <slothy> | in either 3 columns or 2 collumns |
| 20:24 | <Guest3464> | sorry slothy I do not chat in a very long time |
| 20:24 | <slothy> | but the rest isn't an awk script |
| 20:24 | <slothy> | just a one liner |
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| 20:25 | <slothy> | awk takes the second column and then if it isn't equal to (!=) to "=" then it pipes the stuff to the test#list file |
| 20:25 | <slothy> | but if it is equal to = it just creates an empty file |
| 20:26 | <slothy> | how do i suppress that? |
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| 20:26 | <Guest3464> | sorry I went to pick the telephone |
| 20:26 | <s3a> | VBox status code: -1912 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_VERSION_MISMATCH). plz help |
| 20:27 | <Guest3464> | slothy what do you do? |
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| 20:28 | <Psyfurius> | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3027328839_0dfa448b67_o.png |
| 20:28 | <Bushmills> | slothy: you could assign output of awk to a shell var, and only if [ ! -z $VAR ] ; then echo $VAR > file |
| 20:28 | <slothy> | ooh |
| 20:28 | <slothy> | i'll try that |
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| 20:28 | <slothy> | i've coded in idl and matlab and know some basic unix commandy sewtuff but i'm pretty |
| 20:29 | <slothy> | command stuff* but i'm pretty new |
| 20:29 | <slothy> | not pretty |
| 20:29 | <slothy> | i mean... nevermind |
| 20:29 | <Bushmills> | my last serious awking dates back 15 years but i should be pretty fit with shell scripting |
| 20:30 | <slothy> | awk is just so cool |
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| 20:30 | <slothy> | i was observing for my thesis and accidentally named some of my data flat_#### instead of object_#### and just fixed it immediately with awk |
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| 20:31 | <Guest3464> | slothy You have a good night. I am out |
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| 20:31 | <slothy> | night |
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| 20:31 | <Bushmills> | slothy: you know how to assign command output to shell var? |
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| 20:35 | <slothy> | i just said to > $test |
| 20:35 | <Bushmills> | VAR=$(command) |
| 20:35 | <slothy> | oh |
| 20:35 | <slothy> | like this: |
| 20:35 | <slothy> | var = $(./test${i}.sh | awk '$2 != "=" {print $1,$2,"hello"}') |
| 20:36 | <Bushmills> | no spaces around "=" |
| 20:37 | <Bushmills> | if [ -z $VAR] resp. if [ ! -z $VAR ] test then for VAR empty or not |
| 20:39 | <slothy> | yikes when i output the awk to a script variable it completely drops the column format and puts it all out into one line |
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| 20:39 | <Bushmills> | after echo? trying double quotes around $VAR |
| 20:40 | <slothy> | oh yeah |
| 20:40 | <slothy> | you are awesome! |
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| 20:41 | <Bushmills> | thanks |
| 20:44 | <pab> | Why does truecrypt need to be compiled from source? Legal or policy problems? |
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| 20:45 | <slothy> | one more question: |
| 20:45 | <slothy> | if [ ! -z $var ] ; then echo $var > test${i}list |
| 20:45 | <slothy> | gives an error : ./filescript.sh: line 14: [: too many arguments |
| 20:46 | <Bushmills> | doubles quotes arond $var |
| 20:47 | <Bushmills> | if [ ! -z "$var" ] ; then .... ; fi |
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| 20:48 | <slothy> | ah yes, thank you again |
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| 20:51 | <Bushmills> | pab: "You may copy and/or distribute This Product, provided that You do not modify This Product..." thus no GPL, not free. not part of Debian. |
| 20:52 | <LL00> | lenny will no use gnome 2.24 ? |
| 20:53 | <pab> | ah....thx Bushmills |
| 20:53 | <cmyers> | Hmm, I am having an NFS problem, maybe someone can help. I have an NFS server and client, both directly connected on the same network. The server is sharing a mount with rw permissions: (/etc/exports line is "/media/fileserver 10.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)") The client tries to mount it, /etc/fstab line looks like this: "10.0.1.15:/media/fileserver /media/fileserver nfs rw,user,auto 0 0". The user has the same UID on both machines. |
| 20:53 | <cmyers> | And yet, whenever I mount the share, I get read-only access. |
| 20:53 | <Bushmills> | LL00: 2.22, likely |
| 20:53 | <cmyers> | when I try to modify something, I get permission denined. Any ideas? |
| 20:53 | <blarson> | LL00: See http://packages.debian.org/gnome |
| 20:54 | <LL00> | I know I have lenny with gnome right now |
| 20:54 | <Bushmills> | LL00: oh, i thought you asked |
| 20:54 | <LL00> | oh even sid it's 2.22 |
| 20:54 | <slothy> | I have two columns, one of length N and the other of length M and i want to combine them into one column of length M+N, how do i do this? |
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| 20:57 | <Bushmills> | COL1="foo" ; COL2="bar" ; COL1+="$COL2" |
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| 20:57 | <pab> | Bushmills, just a few short years ago...that wouldn't have bothered me as much :( |
| 20:58 | <Bushmills> | pab: doesn't need to bother you know. just find the binary in the net, as you'd have to otherwise anyway |
| 20:59 | <pab> | Bushmills, yes, an I will. It's the principle I suppose. |
| 20:59 | <pab> | and* |
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| 21:00 | <Bushmills> | pab: remember, it is the choice of truecrypt authors to not licence it under GPL, not Debian's |
| 21:00 | <pab> | true |
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| 21:01 | <cmyers> | pab: Yes, it most certainly is the principle of it. In principle, everything in debian must be able to be modified so it can be patched should a security vulnerability or bug be found. That is one of Debian's core principles. |
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| 21:03 | <cmyers> | no NFS wizards here, huh? =( seems like my setup used to work, and something changed recently, maybe NFSv4 or something. *sigh* *continues to read howtos* |
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| 21:30 | <JBastos> | im having some throuble installing my wifi atheros ar242x on lenny |
| 21:30 | <JBastos> | i've tryed 2 days now to make it work |
| 21:30 | <Bushmills> | JBastos: madwifi, or the ath5k module from kernel 2.6.26 or later |
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| 21:31 | <JBastos> | but looks like madwifi doesnt work on kernel 2.6.26 amd |
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| 21:31 | <Bushmills> | with 2.6.26, you can use the ath5k module |
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| 21:32 | <JBastos> | k... gonna try ath5k module |
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| 21:33 | <JBastos> | tks Bushmills ... any other way.. replay it... im trying on lenny |
| 21:33 | <Bushmills> | JBastos: same as me. with atheros 2425 right now |
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| 21:35 | <Bushmills> | (but using kernel compiled from vanilla 2.6.27) |
| 21:35 | <JBastos> | does it matter? cuzz im on amd lenny |
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| 21:36 | <Bushmills> | for me it did. built-in jmicron card reader was a bit tricky to get going |
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| 21:37 | <jcordero> | hola |
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| 21:38 | <matthew_> | !we |
| 21:38 | <dpkg> | we are going to replace you soon, or human, or the GNU fighers |
| 21:38 | <Bushmills> | JBastos: this one was unproblematic. same as yours, i think: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) |
| 21:39 | <matthew_> | !we |
| 21:39 | <dpkg> | we are going to replace you soon, or human, or the GNU fighers |
| 21:39 | <matthew_> | lol |
| 21:39 | <matthew_> | !mpc |
| 21:39 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, mpc is musepack, yet another audio compression routine. It's lgpl, and there's an xmms plugin and encode/decode utilities available - ask me about rarewares. |
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| 21:39 | <JBastos> | yep same as mine |
| 21:39 | <JBastos> | Bucciarati, |
| 21:39 | <JBastos> | Bushmills, |
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| 21:44 | <JBastos> | Bushmills, latest kernel has this module, so i just need to modprobe it? |
| 21:45 | <Bushmills> | right |
| 21:45 | <Delta_x> | My ethernet port isn't detected on my HP dev2845se laptop durring the 4.0 r5 install. I'm using a netinstall CD but no network mirror because it isn't detecting the port. After I install this can I set it up so it detects and can use the port? |
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| 21:48 | <kurumin> | someone can help me?? |
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| 21:49 | <rickbot> | question: i used to use sidux and now i use etch because the latest version of xorg screws up my dual-head setup. anyone know a way around this? |
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| 21:51 | <rickbot> | i.e.: the second screen is sort of super-imposed over screen 0 |
| 21:51 | <rickbot> | the traditional dual head deal doesn't work |
| 21:52 | <rickbot> | and i really wish i could use newer versions of some apps |
| 21:54 | <rickbot> | even going to lenny causes the same effect |
| 21:54 | <rickbot> | i'd be happy anyways. i'm tired of the ocasional problems of sid |
| 21:55 | <rickbot> | happy with lenny, that is |
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| 21:58 | <rickbot> | wish i could just 'dist-upgrade' but... |
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| 22:08 | <rickbot> | hallo? |
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| 22:09 | <rickbot> | using xorg-ati btw |
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| 22:11 | <Delta_x> | I just installed Debian 4.0 R5 on my laptop, it won't recognize the ethernet port so I can't use the internet, I did a minimal install off a net install CD I had. What should I do? |
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| 22:13 | <Delta_x> | Any ideas? I got debian working before. |
| 22:14 | <Delta_x> | Ahh yes. This is an AMD chip and I used the i386 installer... |
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| 22:15 | <rickbot> | bad time for support in #debian i guess... |
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| 22:39 | <matthew_> | j |
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| 22:42 | <JBastos> | Bushmills, I'm installing from compat-wireless with kernel 2.6.26... looks like everything is going fine... need to make install yet... |
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| 22:42 | <JBastos> | i hope it works... |
| 22:43 | <cmyers> | Hmm, I am having an NFS problem, maybe someone can help. I have an NFS server and client, both directly connected on the same network. The server is sharing a mount with rw permissions: (/etc/exports line is "/media/fileserver 10.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)") The client tries to mount it, /etc/fstab line looks like this: "10.0.1.15:/media/fileserver /media/fileserver nfs rw,user,auto 0 0". The user has the same UID on both machines. |
| 22:43 | <cmyers> | And yet, whenever I mount the share, I get read-only access. When I try to modify something, I get permission denined. Any ideas? |
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| 22:44 | <rickbot> | same gid on both? |
| 22:44 | <cmyers> | rickbot: yup |
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| 22:44 | <rickbot> | beyond me :( |
| 22:45 | <cmyers> | I've tried 10.*.*.*, 10.0.1.50 (the actual IP), and the host name, all to no avail. |
| 22:45 | <cmyers> | it's wacky =( |
| 22:48 | <cmyers> | rickbot: thanks for trying anyways. Seems like it's *crickets* on this channel today. |
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| 22:52 | <tom-bbl> | Hello I changed the video card in my PC and now X won't start. How do I "install" the video card driver from unix shell? |
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| 22:53 | <cmyers> | tom-bbl - what video card brand/model? |
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| 22:54 | <rickbot> | cmyers: see what you mean... radeon 9550 |
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| 22:55 | <rickbot> | been stuck with etch for months now cuz i got the same reaction on #sidux .... silence |
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| 22:56 | <chinchin> | u can try to modifier ur xorg.config... |
| 22:56 | <cmyers> | this channel used to be jumpin' - one of the best things about debian =/ |
| 22:56 | <rickbot> | chinchin: how? |
| 22:56 | <cmyers> | tom-bbl: you should be able to get X working without hardware acceleration by fixing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 22:56 | <cmyers> | one sec |
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| 22:57 | <rickbot> | the problem happened with the changes in xorg versions - to 1.3 |
| 22:58 | <cmyers> | open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the part under Section "Device" / Identifier "<something>" / Driver "<fglrx or something" / ... |
| 22:58 | <cmyers> | and change it to Driver "vesa" |
| 22:58 | <rickbot> | its not fglrx. xorg-ati |
| 22:58 | <cmyers> | vesa should work with pretty much any hardware to get X up and running - but without hardware acceleration |
| 22:58 | <cmyers> | either way, vesa should get you running again |
| 22:58 | <cmyers> | then you can play with xorg-ati or fglrx or whatever. |
| 22:58 | <rickbot> | i |
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| 22:59 | <rickbot> | i'm running now. just can't upgrade |
| 22:59 | <cmyers> | oh, upgrading breaks it or something? |
| 22:59 | <rickbot> | or dual-head is --- |
| 22:59 | <rickbot> | upgrading breaks dual-head, yeah |
| 22:59 | <cmyers> | oh, rickbot, I started out answering tom-bbl's question but I see you jumped in, that explains why I am confused. |
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| 23:00 | <rickbot> | sry to confuse :P |
| 23:00 | <cmyers> | if your xorg.conf file is the same, but it works before upgrade and breaks after, then it's probably a bug in the upgraded driver =/ |
| 23:00 | <cmyers> | or Xorg itsself. |
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| 23:00 | <rickbot> | upgrade in xorg does it |
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| 23:00 | <cmyers> | I am less familiar with ati stuff, haven't made one of those cards work in 2-3 years. |
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| 23:01 | <cmyers> | is xorg-ati just xorg + the open source ATI drivers? |
| 23:01 | <rickbot> | i've had all the nightmares with fglrx... only way it works is to build a custome kernel, in my experience |
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| 23:02 | <cmyers> | I run a custom kernel anyways =) |
| 23:02 | <cmyers> | and I run the proprietary install scripts (for both nvidia and ati), rather than doing it "the debian way". the debian way never worked so well for me, sadly =/ |
| 23:02 | <rickbot> | but i have it now anyways.. just have to switch xorg.conf's when i want to play a game etc. cuz i don't have 3d in xorg-ati with dual-head |
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| 23:03 | <cmyers> | so can you tell me more about how it fails to work? |
| 23:03 | <cmyers> | you said the screens overlap or something? |
| 23:03 | <rickbot> | yeah... something like that |
| 23:03 | <cmyers> | are there any errors in the logs? |
| 23:03 | <rickbot> | if i upgrade xorg with the same xorg.conf, |
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| 23:04 | <rickbot> | both screens are sort of overlapped and ... its just f**ked |
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| 23:05 | <cmyers> | it could be that the new xorg is pickier about your config |
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| 23:05 | <cmyers> | in your driver device sections, do you have a BusID and a Screen specified for each device? |
| 23:05 | <rickbot> | i thought that maybe someone else out there might run dual head and have encountered this issue? |
| 23:05 | <rickbot> | one sec.. |
| 23:05 | <cmyers> | I run dual head, but with the nvidia binary drivers =( |
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| 23:06 | <cmyers> | hmm, actually, I guess my machine at work runs with an ATI card, now that I think about it, but that machine runs RHEL5, so it's older xorg =( |
| 23:06 | <cmyers> | <insert generic denigrating comments about RHEL =D > |
| 23:07 | <rickbot> | http://paste.debian.net/21547/ |
| 23:07 | <rickbot> | my xorg.conf |
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| 23:07 | <cmyers> | wow, lotsa modelines |
| 23:07 | <cmyers> | what generated this file, some config script? |
| 23:08 | <rickbot> | works now but if i upgrade, i'm tits up |
| 23:08 | <cmyers> | sidux - what is that? |
| 23:08 | <cmyers> | some config utility? |
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| 23:08 | <rickbot> | distro |
| 23:08 | <x> | what editor can I use from root terminal that will allow me to save menu.list in the /boot/grub directory? |
| 23:09 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 346] by debhelper |
| 23:09 | <cmyers> | x: any editor, but you must run it as root. |
| 23:09 | <x> | using knoppix to hack my debian install |
| 23:09 | <cmyers> | if you are using knoppix, you probably have both "vim" and "nano" available to you. |
| 23:09 | <x> | knoopix has a root terminal is that not root? |
| 23:09 | <rickbot> | http://sidux.com/ |
| 23:09 | <x> | knoppix |
| 23:10 | <x> | thanks for the info |
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| 23:10 | <cmyers> | x: yeh, if you are using root terminal, that oughtta do it =) |
| 23:10 | <rickbot> | i made the file by installing with one monitor on and then ran the live disc with the other monitor attached and combined the data |
| 23:11 | <cmyers> | rickbot: Seems like sidux is pretty close to debian, so it seems like the generated xorg.conf oughtta work, nonetheless, you might try starting from scratch and letting a util in debian generate it |
| 23:11 | <cmyers> | most drivers come with utilities to do so |
| 23:11 | <rickbot> | 'sidux' is sid with various scripts, etc. to help avoid the breakages in sid |
| 23:12 | <rickbot> | the new version of xorg is what did it |
| 23:13 | <rickbot> | ppl involved with 'kanotix' went on there own trip and made 'sidux' |
| 23:13 | <cmyers> | well if it's broken in sid, it's broken in sid, nobody can get around that without fixing the breakage. If it's a config problem or whatever, we can try to help, but I'm not an actual debian developer or anything, and I don't know my way around Xorg very well =/ |
| 23:13 | <cmyers> | also, generic /sigh at mad crazy forking and duplicated effort. |
| 23:13 | <rickbot> | its not just sid. the same happens if i upgrade to lenny... new version of xorg |
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| 23:14 | <cmyers> | afaik, lenny is very close to being the next stable, and should be fairly bug-free right now, which lends credence to my opinion that this is probably more a misconfiguartion than a bug/breakage. |
| 23:15 | <dmoerner> | rickbot, throw out the fll-generated xorg.conf and regenerate it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh |
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| 23:16 | <cmyers> | dmoerner : thanks - that is the command I was trying to dig up for him - I too suggest using a config file generated by the same xorg you are trying to install |
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| 23:16 | <rickbot> | dmoerner: for dual-head? sounds risky... i'll back up first but thx |
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| 23:17 | <cmyers> | rickbot: it is easier to add in dual head later than regenerate the whole file by hand. |
| 23:17 | <rickbot> | i've often heard about issues with mode-lines but no one has ever explained what the problem is |
| 23:18 | <cmyers> | to make it dual head, just copy your screen, monitor, and device sections and rename them, add the BusID and Screen parts you already know from your old one, and edit the ServerLayout to add the second screen. |
| 23:18 | <rickbot> | different monitors though... |
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| 23:18 | <cmyers> | but get it working single-head first |
| 23:18 | <rickbot> | yep |
| 23:18 | <cmyers> | actually, monitor sections are dumb. |
| 23:18 | <cmyers> | I always just leave them alone, as the default. |
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| 23:18 | <cmyers> | unless your monitor is from 1973, it should just work. |
| 23:19 | <rickbot> | i only need 'one' resolution anyway |
| 23:19 | <cmyers> | ah, the beauty of "multisync" |
| 23:19 | <cwood> | Question about sound: why would mplayer and audacious give different levels of sound volume with the same sound card volume setting? |
| 23:19 | <rickbot> | mplayer uses the pcm volume and some other apps use alsa settings |
| 23:20 | <cmyers> | cwood: There are a couple possibilities, but hte first that comes to mind is maybe one is using OSS and the other ALSA, or perhaps there is some sort of sound server running on your machine one is using and hte other isn't |
| 23:20 | <cwood> | No sounds server like arts, no. |
| 23:20 | <Delta_x> | My AMD Turion 64 x2 proc. What archetecture do I download. |
| 23:20 | <cmyers> | Delta_x: amd64 |
| 23:20 | <rickbot> | i often have this irritation when i have amarok set the way i want and the open something in mplayer.. |
| 23:20 | <cmyers> | i386 would also work, but amd64 is closer. |
| 23:21 | <cmyers> | hooray, people are alive. time to try my luck again |
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| 23:21 | <cmyers> | Hmm, I am having an NFS problem, maybe someone can help. I have an NFS server and client, both directly connected on the same network. The server is sharing a mount with rw permissions: (/etc/exports line is "/media/fileserver 10.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)") The client tries to mount it, /etc/fstab line looks like this: "10.0.1.15:/media/fileserver /media/fileserver nfs rw,user,auto 0 0". The user has the same UID on both machines. |
| 23:21 | <cmyers> | And yet, whenever I mount the share, I get read-only access. When I try to modify something, I get permission denined. Any ideas? |
| 23:21 | <rickbot> | amarok uses volume settings separate from the system. mplayer uses where your sound card is at |
| 23:22 | <cwood> | Are we able to get all our sound apps using the system volume settings? Or is it application-dependent? I haven't noticed anything in audacious saying "don't use my volume settings". |
| 23:22 | <Delta_x> | Hmm, I tried the AMD64 testing netinstall and it gave me a boot error when I tried to boot off the CD. |
| 23:22 | <chinchin> | what's the error info |
| 23:22 | <Delta_x> | One second. Let me boot into it. |
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| 23:24 | <Delta_x> | Well it boots and gets to the 'Installer boot menu' I select 'Install' |
| 23:24 | <rickbot> | cwood: if you change the volume in xmms or mlplayer, you'll notice that in kmix, the pcm volume is changed, in amarok or something that uses alsa (i think) it will have its own volume setting |
| 23:24 | <Delta_x> | Boot failed: press a key to retry... |
| 23:25 | <Delta_x> | Loading /install.amd/vmlinuz.isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4239, drive 9F |
| 23:25 | <cwood> | rickbot: thank you, I'll try that out. |
| 23:25 | <cmyers> | what a lovely descriptive error message =/ |
| 23:25 | <cmyers> | oh, that second line is a little more helpful |
| 23:25 | <cmyers> | are you sure your disk isn't going bad? |
| 23:25 | <chinchin> | u boot with cd or harddriver |
| 23:25 | <Delta_x> | Yes. I just was in Vista Ultimate a few hours ago. It's only a 3 month old computer. No abuse. Sat on my desk most of the time. |
| 23:26 | <Delta_x> | Booted off a CD. |
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| 23:26 | <cmyers> | Delta_x: that doesn't necessarily mean anything, as different OSes store thigns in different places on the disk, and disks are MORE likely to fail in the first year than years 2-4 |
| 23:26 | <chinchin> | r u sure ur cd is fine? |
| 23:27 | <cmyers> | Delta_x - is this error while booting off the CD, or hard drive? |
| 23:27 | <chinchin> | cd |
| 23:27 | <chinchin> | he said |
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| 23:27 | <cmyers> | ah, I misunderstood |
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| 23:27 | <cmyers> | did you checksum the image before burning it? |
| 23:27 | <chinchin> | i think its his cd problem |
| 23:27 | <Delta_x> | Hmm, is there a way I could check the disk? When I used i386 to install that worked. But it didn't detect my ethernet port so I did a minimal install. I figured I would try the amd64 version. |
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| 23:27 | <Delta_x> | No, I have never had a problem with disk images. |
| 23:28 | <rickbot> | and burn DAO |
| 23:28 | <rickbot> | ;) |
| 23:28 | <chinchin> | amd64 wont work as u failed to detct ur ethernet |
| 23:28 | <rickbot> | 8x or less |
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| 23:28 | <cmyers> | Delta_x - I don't usually md5sum them either...but I have seen many people encounter problems, 612MB is a lot of bits where a flip can happen. |
| 23:28 | <Delta_x> | It's just the AMD64 I have problems with. The i386 worked fine off the same download. |
| 23:28 | <cmyers> | erm, or however big the image is. |
| 23:28 | <Delta_x> | Net install. About 50mb. |
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| 23:29 | <cmyers> | I second what chinchin said, that if your ethernet didn't work in i386, it is unlikely to work with amd64 |
| 23:29 | <cmyers> | what brand/chipset is your ethernet, do you know? |
| 23:30 | <Delta_x> | Not sure. HP dv2845se laptop. |
| 23:30 | <Delta_x> | I got some version of Linux running on it a few months ago right after I got it. I think it was Ubuntu. |
| 23:30 | <chinchin> | u d better download debian-cd1 to install, about 650M, and u dont need ur ethernet: much easier |
| 23:30 | <Delta_x> | But after I install will the ethernet work? |
| 23:30 | <cmyers> | that said, I haven't seen many ethernet adapters that don't work off the bat with debian, weird... |
| 23:31 | <cmyers> | can you do `sudo lspci -v -v -v > lspci.txt` and put it in a pastebin? |
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| 23:31 | <Delta_x> | I can try. |
| 23:31 | <chinchin> | mine doesnt work neither, so i installed with cd |
| 23:32 | <Delta_x> | I have Deb running on 2 servers and a laptop and I have never had a problem. |
| 23:32 | <Delta_x> | I can boot into the i386 install just fine. |
| 23:32 | <chinchin> | i knew but ur ethenet card cant work |
| 23:33 | <chinchin> | so that means nothing |
| 23:33 | <cmyers> | *smack head* getting it in a pastebin will be hard with no ethernet, huh? =/ maybe you can just look at the output and see if anything looks like an ethernet chipset |
| 23:33 | <Delta_x> | lspci command not found. |
| 23:33 | <cmyers> | try /usr/bin/lspci |
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| 23:33 | <Delta_x> | no such file or directory? I am root. |
| 23:34 | <chinchin> | u download the wrong cd just. |
| 23:34 | <cmyers> | I thought lspci was part of hte base install =/ |
| 23:34 | <cmyers> | it's in the pciutils package. |
| 23:34 | <Delta_x> | I suppose not. It has always worked before. But then again, that was off a network mirror, this is the base install of the netinstall cd./ |
| 23:34 | <chinchin> | there is a cd named debian-i386-netxxx , about 200m; it contains many drivers for ethenet card |
| 23:35 | <cwood> | Lots of things aren't part of the base install... but that depends on what you view as base, really. |
| 23:35 | <Delta_x> | So I should just download the full CD and re-install. |
| 23:35 | <cmyers> | yeh, I can only speak from my own experience, I almost always use the business card network install CD, and immediately switch /etc/apt/source.list to point to the net, and I haven't had many problems |
| 23:35 | <chinchin> | thats a good way |
| 23:35 | <cmyers> | I'd follow chinchin's suggestion and try the 200MB one |
| 23:36 | <cmyers> | what I view as base is "can my system boot, ping google, and run apt-get install <foo>" |
| 23:36 | <cmyers> | =) |
| 23:36 | <Delta_x> | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r5/amd64/iso-cd/ that will work then> |
| 23:37 | <Delta_x> | Well that would be a nice install. Unfortunatly, I fail at 2 out of 3 of those. .33% repeating of course. That's and F. |
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| 23:38 | <Delta_x> | Is it just me, or is the debian download server really slow today. |
| 23:39 | <cmyers> | I did an apt-get update/upgrade earlier and pulled 512kbps, but that's a different server than the CD images, I think. |
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| 23:39 | <Delta_x> | I click to download a file and the window to save it doesn't even come up. |
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| 23:40 | <Delta_x> | I'm considering just running a wget on my server and going out some where and dealing with it tomorrow. Haha. |
| 23:40 | <chinchin> | good luck |
| 23:42 | <Delta_x> | I'm going to try the FTP. |
| 23:44 | <Delta_x> | Yeah, 25 minutes. Someone must have tripped on a cable. ;) |
| 23:45 | <chinchin> | what's FT... |
| 23:45 | <Delta_x> | FTP? |
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| 23:47 | <chinchin> | ...why my xchat just show FT on the screen. |
| 23:47 | <chinchin> | merde |
| 23:47 | <Delta_x> | And.. back to over an hour... |
| 23:48 | <chinchin> | yeah, normal. but i got miror in my campus, 10M/s |
| 23:49 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 340] by debhelper |
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| 23:50 | <Delta_x> | Lucky you :) |
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| 23:51 | <cmyers> | back when I was at Purdue, we had cerias.purdue.edu, but ironically, it was faster to use west coast mirrors. |
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| 23:58 | <hotrod> | hi |
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| 23:58 | <hotrod> | hi |
| 23:59 | <hotrod> | hllo |
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