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00:15<MrNaz>using debian's apache package, where's the httpd.conf ? when i locate it all i find is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but its a 0 byte file... where are the conf directives ?
00:15<yury>I am having a small issue with iceweasel. The location bar disappeared and the CSS for does not render. I ran debsums on it and everything is fine. Also, I moved my profile and the .mozilla directory out of the way, but the problem persists.
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00:16<twb>yury: was firefox running when you moved .mozilla?
00:17<twb>MrNaz: there's a conf.d
00:17<yury>I don't seem to remember and recent XUL updates either. This is totally wierd.
00:18<twb>MrNaz: there's also an apache2.conf in there, dunno if that's useful.
00:19<MrNaz>twb conf.d is a directory... how does that help ?
00:19<yury>last iceweasel I dragged in was on the 7th, so it is probably not that.
00:21<twb>MrNaz: I believe the httpd.conf is broken up into many small parts, so that packages can just create files in conf.d instead of having to edit a shared file
00:21<gsimmons>!tell MrNaz -about apache2
00:21<twb>MrNaz: but I don't really use apache2.
00:21<yury>xulrunner-1.9 failed debsums
00:22<yury>reinstall fixed it
00:22<twb>gsimmons: thanks
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00:22<gsimmons>MrNaz: See the README.Debian file for an explanation of the configuration file layout.
00:22<twb>yury: that's strange- oh well.
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01:22<umarzuki>dear debian user, i'm suffering this simptom when trying to install flash on my Debian Lenny
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01:23<metalqga>download the plugin from adobe's site
01:23<metalqga>and I will tell you what to do next
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01:24<metalqga>untar it into this dir /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
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01:30<dpkg>hmm... flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see
01:30<twb>!adobe flash
01:30<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is non-free and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree (sid or or flashplayer-mozilla ( Adobe doesn't provide security support for flash except to upgrade to the latest version, so Adobe Flash cannot be in a stable release or testing (see See also <non-free> <bpo> <adobe flash testing> <dmm> <nspluginwrapper>
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01:37<umarzuki>Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
01:37<umarzuki>or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla)
01:38<umarzuki>where is it?
01:38<twb>!tell umarzuki -about adobe flash
01:38<metalqga>' /usr/lib/mozilla
01:38<twb>umarzuki: don't unstall the version on Adobe's website, do it via apt.
01:39<metalqga>what's the difference?
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01:39<umarzuki>but i got
01:39<twb>metalqga: doing it via apt means that it's easy to uninstall, it is upgraded automatically, and dpkg -S, cruft and friends know about it.
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01:40<metalqga>like I don't download the latest (because the old crashes as hell)
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01:47<umarzuki_>yeah, that trick worked
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02:22<lee>hello just testing my new debian system :)
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02:25<ucu>lee: congrats, it seems to work :)
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02:36<devzero>Has anyone tried booting debian from the acer aspire one's SD card?
02:39<lee>No,but I tired it with the dell and what I got was, "please remove any disks you have
02:40<devzero>:P thanks :)
02:40<lee>just a sec getting the name of the one item that helped me
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02:41<lee>ah if you still have windows use this and tell it to go to the HD
02:42<lee>unetbootin-windows-299.exe this is a great litle wonder and it helped me. I couldn't figure out how to make it work in linux though
02:42<devzero>mmmkay, will look for it.. thanks :)
02:42<lee>simple as googling it lol
02:43<lee>unetbootin eh google this part lol <<<
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02:43<rdegraaf>Hi folks, Sorry to interrupt, I have a problem with inline decryption of pgp in Evolution. Anyone there to help me solve this problem?
02:43<lee>It worked like a charm, you may need to do some up dating
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02:44<lee>hmmthat is over my head
02:44<devzero>um, looks like SD boot cant be done
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02:44<lee>so I found out myself too lol
02:44<Hughes>Hello, I'm trying to install quake wars on Debian Lenny. When I try to launch the game from the console it just goes all the way to "Async thread started" and then no futher. Anyone know how to run this?
02:44<lee>Ihad to use unetbootin-windows-299.exe just to get this
02:45<devzero>USB FTW, then
02:45<lee>hmm, I ran it in windows and stored it to the hdd
02:45<devzero>thx :)
02:46<lee>there is a drop down menue in the lower left I think, any how it cahnges from Drive I to C
02:46<lee>I left all the other lines alone
02:46<lee>oh it give gnome as a default
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02:47<lee>funy, it also didn't give me a screen resolution either
02:47<lee>HEY I lerned something New today lol
02:47<lee>I learned how to Net install lol
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02:54<lee986321>well, this is one ugly looking prgram after a net chance is there a way to bring my resolution up to full res from 1028x764 to 1368 by something? I didn't have the screen reolution option while doing hte onlione install version
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02:59<cahoot>lee986321: xrandr -q doesn't offer that resolution?
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03:00<AndrewLee>Hi, does XFCE has any wifi GUI tool such as network-manager in GNOME?
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03:13<lee986321>I do not know, I havent even tried to fire up the wifi on this thing yet lol
03:13<lee986321>Iam in the regular debian KDE session
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03:41<fxiny>i'm having issues on etch with xmms2 . it segfaults with etchnhalf . installed bpo 2.6.26 and it segfauls as well . other audio apps are ok . google is deaf
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03:49<Bushmills>fxiny: what does strace say what it was doing when it segfaulted? and check ltrace - not unlikely that a lib is involved.
03:50<fxiny>Bushmills: lemme stop amarok (xmms sounds like s*)
03:50<metalqga>hey what's the best virtual machine for single-cored old cpus, athlon XP?
03:51<fxiny>can't remember how to f* click in sounds gui app :)))
03:52<Bushmills>also helps to know in case of xmms2 what segfaults - client or server
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03:55<metalqga>qemu or xen?
03:57<fxiny>Bushmills: it shows the list then it segfaults when running xmms play or jump to list number . strace xmms2 play at the end print out > Resource temporarily unavailable
03:58<metalqga>can xmms access the sound card?
03:58<Bushmills>fxiny: using OSS?
03:59<fxiny>Bushmills: alsa , i think you are right about a lib problem
04:00<fxiny>Bushmills: checking ltrace
04:01<fxiny>Bushmills: anyway is not important . lenny's coming . xmms2 is a work in progress since ever , xmms works . amarok works . i think fixing it is a waste of time
04:02<Bushmills>there's also mpd
04:02<fxiny>is definetly a xmms2 problem . not an etchnhalf kernel cause it happens with bpo 2.6.26 as well
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04:03<lee>I has a small issue
04:03<fxiny>Bushmills: i am addicted to xmms2 . if i can't fix it i'll reboot into 2.6.18
04:03<weasel>lee: too much lolcat is bad for you
04:05<Bushmills>lee: nobody is perfect
04:05<lee>How do I go in and eh adjsut my screen be yond 1024x768? Ihave a high def tv, and so far all I get is the eh screen thing, I don't have the admisistrator portion of the screen , eh or I cant find it
04:05<lee>I hope no one is perfect hehee
04:06<Bushmills>lee, lenny?
04:07<lee>eh I need something like 13768x..erg I fer got that high res
04:07<fxiny>lee: lenny ?
04:07<lee>hmm not sure what htis is, how do I find out if I am lenny ?
04:07<fxiny>you should know it
04:07<lee>I net loaded it
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04:08<Bushmills>lee, cat /etc/debian_version
04:08<lee>meaning that I used the net to set it up
04:09<lee>that is all it gives me
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04:09<Bushmills>(there is no xrandr with etch, i believe)
04:10<Bushmills>lee, try ctrl-alt-+
04:10<fxiny>that's easy then : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
04:10<fxiny>dig into it
04:10<weasel>I find it highly unlikely that you can do 13k times whatever.
04:11<fxiny>i prefere lenny/org way for setting x
04:11<Bushmills>dat why don't you "have the admisistrator portion" when you installed it yourself?
04:11<lee>it replied with (arg: -1)
04:11<fxiny>comparing to lenny dpkg-reconfigure is too lame :)
04:11<Bushmills>weasel: 13nn x 768, probably
04:12<lee>ok so how do I install it :)
04:12<lee>eh right now it is very ugly looking hehehee
04:13<lee>so eh did I hit the wron server to set up then?
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04:13<fxiny>i mean . from a lazy user point of view old dpkg-reconfigure is better . but hell , learing more about x and setting it the new way is much rewarding
04:14<Bushmills>lee, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or edit the X11 config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
04:14<lee>erg I am having issues with pms eh jsut a sec while I figure out the setting for this x chat
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04:15<weasel>lee: and learn to spel and use punctuation marks between your sentences it is extremely difficult and annoying to read what you write eh you never use a full stop only eh
04:15<lee>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
04:15<lee>bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
04:15<lee>eh sory, lack of sleep and stress.
04:16<weasel>you will want to run dpkg-reconfigure as root.
04:17<Bushmills>lee, Pantothenic acid is said to be good against pms
04:18<Bushmills>good sources are chicken, beef, potatoes, porridge, tomatoes, kidney, eggs
04:19<lee>/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
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04:19<lee>its being a real pain in the __*&*%
04:19<lee>eh how do I apt get it?
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04:20<Bushmills>lee, you just give the command completely, as written above
04:20<lee>I did and it gave permision denied even after I di the su
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04:23<Bushmills>do, as user, xhost + , then su, then dpkg-reconfigure ... after that, as user, xhost - again
04:24<Bushmills>or run dpkg-reconfigure from a virtual console
04:26<lee>/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
04:26<Bushmills>yes, do that
04:27<lee>eh ok eh See if I have a virtual console what would the name of it be
04:27<lee>that was a keyboard screw up
04:28<Bushmills>lee, ctrl-alt-f1 or chvt 1
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04:29<fxiny>Bushmills: i did not know mpd . it looks interesting
04:30<Bushmills>fxiny: not too different to xmms2, being client/server as well. but more mature.
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04:31<Bushmills>oh, virtual console worked. forgot to say how to return to X
04:32<fxiny>Bushmills: it suggests icecast2 which is about streaming , i was already looking at it
04:32<fxiny>i mean icecats2
04:33<Bushmills>fxiny: as icecast2 stream source i liked ezstream
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04:34<Bushmills>can also source video, and on-the-fly conversion
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04:35<fxiny>Bushmills: ezstream ? i'll check it then .
04:35<lee>ok that was a nice trip into restart land with the ctrl+alt+f1 herg
04:35<Bushmills>lee, why?
04:35<lee>it placved me into a text thing and the pc hung
04:36<Bushmills>the "text thing" is the virtual console
04:36<lee>I am in the native gnome now
04:36<lee>ah ok
04:36<lee>eh waht was the command that I need after that then
04:36<lee>Il retry it
04:36<Bushmills>you log in there, as root, and run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
04:37<lee>ok getting a pen
04:37<Bushmills>when done, you switch back to x11
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04:38<lee>ok here i go..brb
04:38<Bushmills>lee, brown rice and bananas are also good
04:38<Bushmills>vitamin b6 sources
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04:38<lee>My dog eats bananas
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04:41<metalqga>calcium and vit C for me
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04:42<fxiny>Bushmills: bingo ! streaming with mpc :)
04:43<Bushmills>fxiny: good
04:43<fxiny>Bushmills: it sounds very very good
04:43<Bushmills>xmms2 addiction relief
04:44<fxiny>Bushmills: installing and running mpd then mpc is easier comparing to xmms2 for streaming radio
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04:45<lee>Command Not found
04:45<metalqga>you are running debian?
04:45<lee>yes I am
04:45<metalqga>and you logged on as root
04:46<fxiny>Bushmills: more then that : i'm safe from amarok cutting my little ram jugular :)
04:46<fxiny>gui vampire ? XXX
04:47<fxiny>i can install a proper debian etchnhalf kernel now
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04:48<lee>Is very Confused at waht is going on.
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04:49<Bushmills>lee, typo, probably
04:49<fxiny>lee: never log in as root . add a normal user and log in again
04:50<Bushmills>fxiny: for running dpkg-reconfigure?
04:50<lee>ok i did that
04:50<fxiny>Bushmills: ahh ok ok
04:52<lee>GOT IT
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04:52<lee>I have a blue window that is up
04:53<fxiny>blue ? wt4x
04:53<lee>it asking to attempt to auto detect video hardware
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04:54<lee>I had to combine both the dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
04:54<turban>how to set the Kscope menu font in gnome?
04:54<lee>in the terminal
04:54<lee>should I attemot the auto detect?
04:54<lee>how in heavens name do I activate the spell check
04:54*fxiny asks gently nasty neighbours to test mpd :P
04:55<lee>ok attempting the ato check
04:55<metalqga>lol you also have nasty neighbours :D
04:55<fxiny>metalqga: the world hates me :)))
04:56<lee>I 810 that is my video chip set in a dell
04:56<turban>I use the kscope --fn=Arial, but it says: QFont::setRawName(): Invalid XLFD: "Arial". Any advise?
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04:57<lee>its asking me how much ram should I allocate for the card?
04:57<lee>I haave 512 meg of ram
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04:57<Gekz>allocate 514 megs
04:57<Gekz>you'll need it
04:57<^valentino^>MA SUCATEMI IL CAZZO
04:58<lee>eh I think that will strain my sytem wont it
04:58<^valentino^>ciao a tutti
04:58<^valentino^>di dove siete
04:58<Gekz>learn to english
04:58<lee>hehehee, I amnot toatly dumb lol
04:58<dpkg>Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
04:59<^valentino^>learn to italian :(
05:00<^valentino^>hello not understand much English I know one thing
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05:01<fxiny>we can translate your capital letters rubbish
05:01<fxiny>don't worry :P
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05:02<lee>WEF its asking about the key board
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05:04<Bushmills>metalqga: and magnesium
05:05<Bushmills>lee, is that a netbook kind of machine?
05:05<fxiny>Bushmills: hmmm : mpd sits in /etc/init.d . listening to 6600 . looking into it
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05:07<^valentino^> hi.. i need an information.. could you give it to me?
05:08<Bushmills>^valentino^: of course. here it is: 42
05:08<fxiny>and 47 : dead man talking :)))
05:09<^valentino^>piacere raga ho 14 anni e sono di genova usate il translate sennò non ci capisco:(
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05:13<fxiny>Bushmills: great : /etc/mpd.conf says all .
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05:16<turban>Could someone provide some qt font names used in kscope --font <fontname>
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05:17<fxiny>^valentino^: next don't come in typing rubbish in capital letters , this is a nice place . so : what's your question again ?
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05:17<^valentino^>fxiny che cosa non ho capito
05:17<fxiny>english only please
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05:19<^valentino^>fxiny italian only please
05:20<eightyeight>variable: this is an english channel. if you want support, you must type in english. if you want italian support, then /join #debian-it
05:20<ao2>ciao ^valentino^, this is an eglish-language channel, you are wrong! Try #debian-it, or.. qery me if it is a short question
05:20<eightyeight>^valentino^: ^^
05:20<eightyeight>variable: sorry. bad tab-complete
05:20<^valentino^>non capisco
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05:21<Bushmills> /ignore ^valentino^
05:21<Bushmills>but now
05:21<^valentino^>Bushmills ma che ho fatto :(
05:22<fxiny>^valentino^: do you have any debian related questions ?
05:22<^valentino^>see are racists I perche are a 14 years old Italian there take advantage
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05:25<artistx>ok it is me lee, and there is something most defiantly wrong with my installation
05:26<artistx>This is a live CD and it is telling me that I am at the resolution of 1360x768
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05:27<^valentino^>excuse to everybody
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05:28<fxiny>Bushmills: any client to connect from remote ? man mpc says "local"
05:28<Bushmills>fxiny: many.
05:29<Bushmills>fxiny: what window manager/desktop environment, if any?
05:29<fxiny>Bushmills: flux
05:29<artistx>Bushmills its me lee I started the Artistx dvd to see if something was wrong and I am at 1360x768
05:29<Bushmills>artistx: congratulations
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05:30<fxiny>Bushmills: i'm editing mpd.conf
05:30<artistx>But, my hdd stinks
05:30<Bushmills>fxiny: prefer curses or X frontend?
05:30<artistx>eh I mean the OS on it has nothing compared to this
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05:30<artistx>How the heck do I set up the apprpriate net install?
05:30<fxiny>Bushmills: cli possibly but no x , curses is ok
05:31<fxiny>Bushmills: i use to run xmms2 in a screen session
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05:31<Bushmills>fxiny: try ncmpc
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05:33<Bushmills>fxiny: but mpc works remotely too
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05:34<fxiny>Bushmills: yes ?
05:35<csc_>Anybody knows what the official IRC server/channel for the linux kernel is ?
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05:36<Bushmills>csc_: #kernel-newbies, maybe
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05:36<csc_>Bushmills: no matter to what irc server I am connected ? Its always the same channel ?
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05:37<Bushmills>csc_: without dash. no, they are not commonly bridged
05:37<Bushmills>that is, #kernelnewbies
05:37<csc_>Bushmills: Thanks. I'll try there.
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05:57<cammoblammo>I see that etckeeper integrates with apt. Does it also integrate with aptitude?
05:57<fxiny>Bushmills: yes . mpc does remote *control* by exporting host and port . i'll look further into proper streaming
05:58<Bushmills>fxiny: yes right - all mpd clients are server control interfaces only
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05:59<Bushmills>but sound generation and playing is server task
06:00<fxiny>Bushmills: i like mpd , yes . all i want is getting a faster box streaming to a slower one
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06:01<Bushmills>fxiny: i used rplay for that purpose
06:01<fxiny>Bushmills: binding it to an iface , edinting mpd.conf is nice , so far i'm happy with it
06:01<Bushmills>(considered obsolete)
06:01<fxiny>rplay ?
06:01<fxiny>Bushmills: i use nc and mplayer
06:02<Bushmills>yes. modernizing computer setup of a pub. task: try to use all available equipment only.
06:02<fxiny>but sound quality is poor
06:02<Bushmills>ended up with public access terminal which was a 32 mb 100 mhz pentium notebook, which also connected to the sound system :)
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06:03<Bushmills>the music player was running on the gateway, no sound card there
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06:03<Bushmills>used rplay/rplayd to play sound over the net to the notebook
06:04<Bushmills>(rplayd has very low memory footprint)
06:05<fxiny>i was looking into icecast2 but i stopped
06:05<Bushmills>i was running 4 icecast stations until some time ago
06:05<fxiny>oh i'm always connected to digimport
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06:06<fxiny>i do olny streaming , no ripping , no audio torrents anymore
06:07<fxiny>and i want clients running in screen
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06:07<fxiny>cli only
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06:07<Bushmills>fxiny: do you know musicindex? an apache2 module
06:08<fxiny>nope , i read about ampache
06:08<Bushmills>fxiny: mind if i msg you?
06:08<fxiny>Bushmills: you are welcome
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06:10<fxiny>msg Bushmills oh i see . i've lost everything at the end : i'm on mrxvt
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06:24<metalqga>welcome back
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06:24<umarzuki>why is that when i tried to install koffice, it tries o remove kde4?
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06:28<metalqga>The following packages have unmet dependencies: ....
06:29<Bushmills>umarzuki: probably a conflict of dependencies
06:29<metalqga>try using OO
06:29<Bushmills>umarzuki: abiword could do
06:30<Bushmills>(assuming it is the word processor part you're after)
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06:34<hjb>Hi. A little find question: how do i run find in a way no filenames get printed (i.e. yomething like the 'quiet' option to many tools) ?
06:34<hjb>the man page says it uses the -print option if nothing is specified, but i can't find a '-noprint' option or something similiar
06:35<weasel>hjb: redirect the output to /dev/null
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06:36<hjb>weasel hmm, ok. thought about that, but i though that producing no output would be more in the sense of effectiveness ;-)
06:36<weasel>you thought wrong
06:36<weasel>having a million switches for every stupid little thing is so annoying.
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06:36<weasel>the unix philosophy works so much better
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06:37<hjb>weasel hmm, yes. unix philosophy :-)
06:37<Over>ke tu madre ke Oo
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06:38<hjb>weasel but producing no output would really speed things up :-) Have you ever noticed how much a printf() costs?
06:38<weasel>redirect it to dev/null.
06:38<weasel>and stop whining about it, please?
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06:38<hjb>find would still do a printf() if i do
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06:39<metalqga>then edit the source
06:39<hjb>weasel ok, no prob ;) if you're not in mood of discussion, i'll stop now.
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06:40<Bushmills>hjb: try find -exec false 0 \; :P
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06:41<eightyeight>hjb: the point of find, is to let you know what it finds. so i have a hard time understanding why you don't want output
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06:41<weasel>hjb: also, find distinguishes between output is a tty and output isn't a tty.
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06:42<hjb>weasel what's the difference? it would still printf(), else i wouldn't be able to redirect to a file for further usage
06:42<hjb>eightyeight i just want to check which files i *can't* read
06:43<weasel>and how do you check that?
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06:43<dpkg>somebody said i was the imaginary unit, the square root of -1 and other nifty things, or the chemical symbol to iodine and a personal pronoun together with me, my and myself, or roman numeral for 1, or the letter between h and j, or commonly used as an iteration counter, or rapidly becomming the most tacked-on factoid. used as a block index in much of the rsync code
06:43<valdyn>read stderr of find would do that
06:43<eightyeight>hjb: so, you want to file files that you don't have read permission on, but you don't want to know what files those are?
06:43<dpkg>Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
06:43<valdyn>reading stderr of find would do that
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06:43<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in
06:43<dpkg>[of] shorthand for OpenFirmware.
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06:43<eightyeight>^valentino^: please stop
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06:44<hjb>eightyeight find reports them to stderr, the files i can't read
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06:44<hjb>eightyeight but i don't want to now which files i can read
06:44<@weasel>find doesn't report *files* you can't read
06:44<eightyeight>hjb: oh, i see. in that case, 2> /dev/null
06:44<valdyn>hjb: you can use finds -perm
06:45<hjb>weasel sure it does, throught stderr
06:45<@weasel>no it doesn't
06:45<hjb>valdyn oh, good point
06:45<valdyn>but the speed of printf really is insignificant
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06:45<hjb>hjb@nobackstein:~$ find /root/ > /dev/null
06:45<hjb>find: "/root/.aptitude": no permisson
06:45<valdyn>unless your files are in a ramdisk
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06:46<@weasel>hjb: that's not a _file_. it's a directory.
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06:46<hjb>weasel doh ;) if it'd be a file it'd still be reported
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06:46<@weasel>hjb: no, it wouldn't
06:46<@weasel>now get a clue before you try to be smart to me
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06:46<eightyeight>hjb: weasel is right
06:46<hjb>weasel hey :-)
06:46<hjb>weasel you're right
06:46<hjb>weasel sorry :-D
06:47<eightyeight>hjb: directories detirmine if you can list files, not files
06:47<hjb>ok, misconception recognized here
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06:48<hjb>so i guess i'll further study the -perm option now
06:48<hjb>thanks for your help :)
06:48<eightyeight>technically speaking, however, dirs are still files.</devils_advocate>
06:48<hjb>unix philosophy: everythings a file?
06:48<valdyn>but find was complaining that it cant execute .aptitude, not that it cant read .aptitude
06:48<@weasel>all files are equal
06:49<@weasel>some are more equal than others
06:49<Bushmills> echo foo > /dev/powersupply ?
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06:50<valdyn>err nm
06:50<dpkg>Ciao, Prego utilizzi #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in Italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
06:50<eightyeight>mkfifo {foo,bar}; echo -n "Where am I?" | cat - foo > bar &; cat < bar > foo # :)
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06:50<@weasel>!tell ^valentino^ about enter
06:51<^valentino^>cosa vuoldire?
06:51<@weasel>and this is an english language channel. don't make me remove you again.
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06:53<hjb>for the sake of completeness and info: find /root \! -readable 2>/dev/null
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06:53<^valentino^>weasel Okey
06:53<hjb>that's the command that does the trick ;)
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06:56<hjb>hmm, no it doesn't :-( this treats dangeling links as not readable :-|
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07:02<SuperFolle>weasel understad?
07:03<dpkg>well, in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in
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07:04<daemon>Hey all Xorg keeps locking up with a really odd message:
07:05<daemon>Ring end
07:05<daemon>space: 28 wanted 32
07:05<daemon>then a few lines later after DRM settles down, Fatal server error: Lockup
07:06<daemon>the card is an intel (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xf$
07:06<daemon>I can see one person reported it by looking on google quite a while ago
07:06<daemon>no reply or other posts though
07:06<daemon>this only started happaning recently
07:07<ucu>daemon: when does it happen, when you startx or when x is running for a while?
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07:09<daemon>ucu, intermitant, also unrecoverable, gdm crashs and keep strying to restart then gives up. I think time wise mhmmm.. between 30 minutes and 6 hours
07:10<daemon>reboot needed to correct it
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07:11<ucu>daemon: can you pastebin the complete error log please?
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07:11<daemon>ucu, of course one moment
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07:15<ucu>daemon: what kernel do you use and how did you install the driver for the card?
07:15<daemon>ucu, apt-get install xorg
07:15<daemon>and i use lenny
07:15<daemon>Linux laptop1 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Oct 9 15:18:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
07:16<daemon>ucu, xorg detected the card its self
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07:17<ucu>daemon: ok, one moment. checking if a bug was reported already
07:17<daemon>ucu, this has been working a good few weeks absolutely perfect then suddenly started acting up im figuring one of the updates
07:18<ucu>maybe one of the other people here can pick that up. cause my brain is stalled :)
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07:19<daemon>ok dokey thank you for having a look ucu :)
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07:22<abrotman>which video card?
07:23<abrotman>if you try the vesa driver, does it also happen?
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07:31<daemon>abrotman, no but that is minging
07:32<daemon>abrotman, there was a recent update to the driver I am using
07:32<daemon>the intel driver for xorg
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07:32<dpkg>snapshots is, like, an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See for more information.
07:32<abrotman>try the old one
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07:34<daemon>ah ok
07:34<daemon>ta abrotman
07:35<abrotman>or try the vesa driver
07:36<raceman>Hi all, i'm new here, like to ask a question. I've an older server with an older version of debian running on it (don't know the exact version). Sometimes I rebooted the server (when moved to another location etc.), but today I also had to move it to another location, and now it doesn't regcognized my netowrkcard correctly. I try to google for the faillures and read some postings etc, but i'm stuck with it.
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07:37<raceman>the weird thing is that I can't remember I changed anything within the configuration
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07:38<abrotman>dmesg | grep eth .. see anything ?
07:39<raceman>when I do an ifconfig -a , it's only displaying lo and sit0, when I do a /etc/init.d/network restart it's output is 'Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCSIFADDR: no such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Failed to bring up eth0.'
07:39<raceman>and when I do lspci it's shows my network device
07:40<raceman>@abrotman , no, no results.
07:40<Bushmills>raceman: sound like either the module for your network card hasn't been loaded, or your network card is broken
07:40<abrotman>raceman: you can try changing slots .. but it sounds like you broke it
07:41<Bushmills>raceman: check, with lsmod, that the proper module is present
07:41<raceman>The first thing I thought it was broken to, but I already try to switch slots, and tryed 2 another network cards (other brands) that had the same problem
07:41<raceman>What about the modules? I don't know a lot about modules.
07:41<abrotman>raceman: cat /proc/version .. what does it return
07:42<Bushmills>raceman: lspci | grep Ether shows what?
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07:45<raceman>@abrotman , Linux version ( (gpc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2)) #1 Thu Nov 11 12:18:43 EST 2004
07:45<abrotman>yay sarge!
07:45<abrotman>oh .. that's not a sarge kernel ..
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07:45<stew>no its not a debian kernel
07:46<raceman>@Bushmills , I did lsmod, but did'nt see anything that I guess thats the network device. Nothing with eth0, Realtek, or something I recognize for networking
07:46<abrotman>raceman: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 ... what's the line it returns ?
07:46<Bushmills>raceman: you won't see eth0 in lsmod
07:46<Bushmills>raceman: that's why i asked to grep for Ether
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07:49<raceman>Just a sec i've to type it over ;p
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07:51<raceman>brb, I'm moving my laptop next to the server
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07:53<abrotman>raceman: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 ... what's the line it returns ?
07:54<raceman_>@abrotman ii libc6 1.7-13 GNU C Library: Shared Libraries
07:54<abrotman>that's not debian
07:55<raceman_>@Bushmills, lsmod |grep ehther did'nt give any result
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07:57<raceman_>@abrotman, I'm sorry, did'nt know that. I thought it was debian due I did the cat /proc/version and was returning debian in the line
07:57<abrotman>it doesn't seem like it
07:57<raceman_>How can I recognize the linux distro?
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07:57<abrotman>raceman_: dpkg -l | grep bunt ... see if anything comes back
07:58<raceman_>@abrotman , no
07:58<abrotman>maybe they just used a goofy kernel with it
07:59<abrotman>raceman_: what do you see in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
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08:00<raceman_>@abrotman, a lot of lines with and http addresses
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08:00<abrotman>okay .. maybe it's just out of date ..
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08:04<stew>raceman_: did "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" really say "1.7-13"? or was it "2.7-13"?
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08:05<stew>raceman_: does "uname -a" really say "" or was it "2.6.8-1-386" ?
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08:07<raceman_>sorry, my typo, it's 2.6.8-1-386
08:08<abrotman>a sarge kernel on a lenny box?
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08:11<raceman_>I'm sorry, I'm running out of time, i've an appointment so I've to leave. I'll hire an linux expert, hoppefully he can repair. Thanks abrotman, Bushmills & stew for trying helping me.
08:11<raceman_>I appreciate it
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08:13<abrotman>raceman_: check the MAC against the /etc/udev/ entries for network devices
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08:14<abrotman>raceman_: such as like grep -r "part of the mac" /etc/udev/
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08:41<Lethalman>I have gstreamer bad plugins but I can't load this video (MMS):
08:41<Lethalman>it says Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
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08:42<Bushmills>Lethalman: pick a stream which acutally exists
08:43<fxiny>works here . mplayer plugin
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08:43<fxiny>etch , firebug 3 , Marillat stuff
08:44<Bushmills>strange... "main playlist: nothing to play"
08:44<fxiny>Bushmills: i have musicidex in my todo list ;)
08:44<fxiny>double checking
08:45<fxiny>it works . audio video are ok
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08:47<fxiny>Bushmills: i have musicindex in my todo list ;)
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08:50<edu__>does anyone know the name of the package to have an icon that displays if my num bloq key is on?
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08:51<Bushmills>edu__: what window manager, or desktop environment?
08:51<edu__>gnome :)
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08:52<abrotman>edu__: doesn't your numlock have a light ?
08:52<edu__>not my eeepc hehehe
08:53<Bushmills>edu__: lock-keys-applet
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08:56<Lethalman>fxiny: mplayer plugin? which package?
08:58<fxiny>Lethalman: mplayer 3.40 ?
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08:58<Lethalman>fxiny: oh you mean mplayer plugin for the browser, i thought for gstreamer :)
08:59<fxiny>Lethalman: browser
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09:04<screenn>howto convert avi to DivX?
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09:06<screenn>I need DivX video with some options, I'll watch it in my phone which can play it
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09:09<douglas>alguem sabe como atualizo o firefox no debian br cdd do 1.04 pro 3.04 ?
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09:17<kemik25>hi everyone.
09:17<kemik25>nice to meet you all.
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09:31<An|ma>sep are you there ?
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09:33<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
09:33<dpkg>firefox is, like, replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel>, <why iceweasel>.
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09:34<kemik25>i have problem here... could anyone help...
09:34<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
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09:35<kemik25>i bought new plantronic headset but no sound from the headset.... the device detected but no sound...could anyone help..
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09:35<cahoot>kemik25: try asoundconf
09:36<kemik25>asoundconf is-active
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09:37<cahoot>Isuppose your headset gets to be the seconf card - i e not default
09:37<kemik25>sudo asoundconf list -> Headset
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09:39<stevecotton>try "alsamixer", see if the master volume control is set to zero
09:39<kemik25>but still no sound.. the headset usb device... detected as Plantronics Headset (Alsa Mixer)...
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09:40<kemik25>volume set to maximum... but still no sound..
09:40<stevecotton>also (and it's daft but worth eliminating), there's probably a volume control on those headphones themselves
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09:41<cahoot>kemik25: also note that soundlevel is different from 'mute' status
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09:42<cahoot>kemik25: and... not a ubuntu system by chance?
09:44<kemik25>i am using ubuntu... is it because of OS..
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09:45<cahoot>two concerns: 1: wrong channel and 2: pulseaudio might be messing with you
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10:36<tghy>Can i ask?
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10:37<Deiz>How long does the unstable freeze last when leading up to a new stable release?
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10:42<stew>Deiz: unstable doesn't freeze, testing does. it lasts as long as it takes to get rid of the known release critical bugs
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10:56<Deiz>stew: Oh? It seems a few packages (Like Pidgin) are old in unstable.
10:56<Deiz>That's not a freeze, just time it takes to trickle down from upstream?
10:57<dpkg>slushy is probably when a 'testing' release becomes frozen, unstable tends to partially freeze as well. this is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates andto fix release critical bugs which are keeping testing from becoming stable.
10:57<stew>judd: versions pidgin
10:57<Deiz>I see.
10:57<judd>stew: pidgin: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 (etch-backports) 2.4.3-4 (lenny) 2.4.3-4 (sid) 2.5.2-1 (experimental)
10:58<Deiz>So, Pidgin 2.5.2 and 3 are in experimental. Is that repo for unstable software, or just cutting edge?
10:59<stew>Deiz: both, and you should assume the packages in experimental are dangerous to install
11:00<Deiz>I see.
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11:25<Bushmills>Deiz: that's repo for experimental software
11:26<Bushmills>unstable is for unstable
11:27<Bushmills>stew: not a lot of danger arising from installing. running is where the problems come from :)
11:28<AzaTht>what should I do when someone though it was a good idea to reimplement half-assed std::string?
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11:29<stew>Bushmills: you don't think there can be problems in the maintainer scripts?
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11:30<Bushmills>yes, there too. that's the "not a lot"
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11:33<nubbun>I wish to help set up the servers so that Debian seeds it's torrents. I'm not a Debian project member. How can I help with that?
11:33<nubbun>it's --> its
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11:45<abrotman>Bushmills: have you ever seen the linux-gazette bug?
11:46<Bushmills>installing linux gazettes through borked installation script?
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11:56<stevecotton>nubbun - is there a torrent that's completely unseeded (probably), or just one that's slow?
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12:00<nubbun>stevecotton: weekly builds are usually unseeded in my experience.
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12:03<stevecotton>nubbun: you can use jigdo from the previous weekly; but at ADSL rates anyone downloading from you would also be better using jigdo from the previous weekly.
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12:04*stevecotton looked at contributing ADSL bandwidth a while ago, and is now part of the debtorrent crowd.
12:06<nubbun>stevecotton: thanks for the tip, but I've encountered failures with jigdo. I don't completely trust it. Perhaps the ISOs it builds (when it works) would match the hashes on the FTP site and I can check it that way. Even if jigdo worked smoothly, I'd still like to see the torrents seeded.
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12:06<stevecotton>That sounds like a bug needs filing on Jigdo.
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12:17<nubbun>Actually, I think I've never seen a weekly build seeded.
12:17<Guest3402>anyone here
12:18<Guest3402>I am signing in from a knoppix boot need help with a debian install
12:18<twb>Is there a web page I can link to that gives an overview of bts(1)?
12:18<twb>That is, something like the bts manpage.
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12:20<n8r0x>how do I password protect a .bz2 file?
12:20<twb>n8r0x: encryption and compression are separate steps on Debian.
12:20<twb>n8r0x: you might want GnuPG public-key encryption.
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12:21<twb>kmap: thanks.
12:21<kmap>twb: No problem.
12:21<nubbun>twb,n8r0x GPG does symetric also.
12:22<Guest3402>is there a limit size for /root? can't load grub or lilo in the last stages of install debian etch - > can't boot.
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12:23<twb>Guest3402: /root is the home directory for the root user, it's not used during boot.
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12:24<stevecotton>Guest3402: rings a bell, depending on your BIOS
12:24<Guest3402>okay just a terminilogy thing I mean "/"
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12:26<Guest3402>asus m2v-mx with amd sepron 2ghz am2 64 bit award bios
12:26<stevecotton>are you completely reformatting the drive for this installation?
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12:28<Guest3402>yes, three times now 1) just used space on drive that worked! - later had a kernel issue so I tried to reinstall kernel as per rec but led to complete new install
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12:29<Guest3402>now after three tries I am frustrated
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12:30<Guest3402>I was trying to place several mount points in the install
12:30<eht>HELLO ALLZ!!!
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12:30<Guest3402>its supposed to make it more efficient
12:30<Guest3402>but now I don't know what to think or ...
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12:31<stevecotton>if you make a small partition at the start of the drive that gets mounted on /boot then it should work for lilo (only needs to be about 50MB). Not sure if Grub works that way, or if you need to get other files in there as well.
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12:31<stevecotton>that's /boot, not /root. Where the kernel images go.
12:31<Guest3402>did a cd-rom integrity check - passed perfectly as it should since i md5 hash checked before the burn
12:32<Blind>Can I get free ?
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12:32<stevecotton>(I'm assuming that the error you're getting mentions "1024 cyclinders)
12:32<Guest3402>yeah that was going to be my next try - to open som space at the begining for the MBR
12:33<fxiny>a 64 cpu comes with a modern bios
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12:33<Guest3402>So can I make a parttion for mount point /boot? at begining of drive
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12:33<stevecotton>The MBR already has space reserved, it's the next stage of bootloading that would have the needs-space-at-the-start problem.
12:33<fxiny>f spammers !
12:34<stevecotton>but fxiny has a point - your BIOS shouldn't need this, what I'm suggesting shouldn't work
12:34<fxiny>!ops spammers flooding
12:34<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: fxiny complains about: spammers flooding
12:34<stevecotton>did you see a message about "1024 cyclinders"?
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12:35<abrotman>huh ?
12:35<twb>Typically one allocates a few hundres of megabytes for /boot, which is utilized about 10% on a normal single-kernel desktop system.
12:35<Guest3402>so there is a glitchy loading thing going on here - no error like that- using expertgui I do get this:
12:35<fxiny>abrotman: in my msg windows
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12:35<abrotman>i see now
12:35<fxiny>abrotman: prebet and friends
12:36<Guest3402>does it matter where I place /boot then?
12:36<twb>Guest3402: it doesn't matter where /boot is placed physically on the drive.
12:36<fxiny>Guest3402: only in pre '98 bios
12:36<stevecotton>what error do you get (it didn't show up)
12:37<Guest3402>sorry I got distracted hold on
12:37<abrotman>it only happens when you talk apparently ?
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12:37<fxiny>abrotman: yes
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12:37<cahoot>silence is golden
12:37<twb>abrotman: correct.
12:37<abrotman>Ganneff: is this something staff can take care of, or should i start banning all of them?
12:37<fxiny>same tk address
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12:38<fxiny>different nicks spamming same address
12:38<Guest3402>Its says I will have to boot using /vmlinuz kernel on /dev/sda1 and root=/dev/sda1 passed as an argument
12:38<Guest3402>thats a bit over my head
12:38<fxiny>test test
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12:38<fxiny>abrotman: morethenonewordtriggersit
12:38<Guest3402>not getting grub to test lines with
12:39<abrotman>fxiny: i'm not sure if staff wants to kill them all or if i should
12:39<fxiny>abrotman: no idea
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12:39<johnfg>hi guys
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12:39<johnfg>Is firefox available for lenny?
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12:39<Guest3402>another question is the inode sizes is there any known issues with that?
12:39<dpkg>i guess firefox is replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel>, <why iceweasel>.
12:39<fxiny>abrotman: being in the msg windows is a minor problem
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12:40<Guest3402>not getting errors about it but I am changing inode size per mount point
12:40<fxiny>abrotman: seems finished
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12:41<simonrvn>so why are you doing that then, if there's no problems?
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12:41<abrotman>we'll see
12:41<Guest3402>stevecotton did you see my error report from the expertgui
12:41*abrotman guesses staff is killing
12:41<fxiny>abrotman: more then 40 nicks
12:42<stevecotton>ruddy spammer's been griefing (posting the URL and a ton of junk) in #debian-uk too.
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12:43<Guest3402>I was reading about the install and it makews sense to make tmp and var as large filesize inodes where home and usr and possibly other could be small at 4kB
12:43<stevecotton>Guest3402: only the one link about /dev/sda1 ?
12:43<Ganneff>i *think* i got most of them.
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12:43<stevecotton>thanks Ganneff
12:44<Guest3402>speed and efficiency but it is possible I am way over thinking it for a simple desktop environment
12:45<johnfg>I'm coming from using mysql as everything for my sql. Is there any kind of gui for postgresql like phpmyadmin?
12:45<Guest3402>yeah thats all it gave me, let me see if my debug can be retrieved - my brain is scatttered working for about two days on this crap now give me a minute
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12:46<twb>!apt-cache show kpogre
12:46<simonrvn>um, try another window
12:46<simonrvn>without the ! this time ;)
12:47<twb>simonrvn: I was hoping dpkg would tell johnfg about it
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12:47<twb>Not that *I* did anything but "aptitude search ~dpostgres~dgui"
12:47<simonrvn>you want !info <package>
12:48<fxiny>simonrvn: i did it because i don't like spammers
12:48<twb>Bah. I'll never remember that!
12:48<fxiny>got it ?
12:49<fxiny>win gr 2
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12:55<client>everytime i select my time zone as New York(EST) from the clock options it changes it to New York(UTC) and i think this is causing confusion with some programs
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12:56<metalqga>utc as universal time coordinated?
12:56<client>meta yea...
12:57<client>so i have some programs shownig GMT
12:57<metalqga>because utc is for london time
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12:58<client>but in my options i hve selected New York
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12:58<Guest3402>I don't think the debug file was printed
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12:59<client>and after i apply it shows up as "new york UTC" and not "new york EST" as before i click apply
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13:00<fxiny>!setting time
13:00<dpkg>To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch) or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid) and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first.
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13:02<Guest3402>Anycase I will try the extra space thing at the beginning
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13:13<xsdg>metalqga: just for the record, UTC isn't "london time"; that's GMT
13:14<xsdg>metalqga: and note that london switches to BST over the summer. UTC has no notion of Daylight Savings
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13:16<metalqga>true, I just wanted to be understood so I kinda oversimplified my statement
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13:19<dpkg>i guess iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is different from GNU's version of Firefox, which formerly had the same name but is now known as IceCat ( To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>.
13:19<johnfg>!<why iceweasel>
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13:25<stevecotton>!tell johnfg about selftell
13:26<metalqga>1940 stevecotton !firefox :D
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13:27<k1lumin4t1>is there any linux tool similar to those of Norton that clean/sweep a system?
13:28<stevecotton>which kind of clean/sweep do you want?
13:28<metalqga>maybe defrag, remove malware? :D
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13:29<fxiny>k1lumin4t1: you mean to sanitize a hd ?
13:30<metalqga>scrub :D
13:30<k1lumin4t1>fxiny, yes. To remove farbae, etc
13:30<metalqga>we have just been talking about it
13:30<k1lumin4t1>and defrag also
13:30<cahoot>that would remove the entire linux - no?
13:30<fxiny>k1lumin4t1: badblocks , dd, scrub
13:31<k1lumin4t1>fxiny, thanks
13:32<fxiny>k1lumin4t1: maybe you just want shred
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13:32<fxiny>i would not use shred to sanitize a hd
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13:33<k1lumin4t1>fxiny, shred? No, thanks. I'm better with sweep-picking
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13:35<fxiny>k1lumin4t1: defrag ? forget defragging , just be happy
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13:36<doctor>How do I disable the screensaver in GNOME via the console - IE without using the screensavers applet in the System menu?
13:37<fxiny>dunno why defrag is such an issue , this week :P
13:37<k1lumin4t1>fxiny, I can't find scrub
13:37<fxiny>k1lumin4t1: is on lenny
13:37<dpkg>well, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications., Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <>
13:38<fxiny>yiou can compile it or just use dd or badblocks
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13:38<k1lumin4t1>fxiny, I'm on Sid/Experimental
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13:39<fxiny>k1lumin4t1: i am on etch and i use scrub . i do not have nsa related secrets so scrub is ok :P
13:39<fxiny>and i do not want to boil my hd up
13:39<k1lumin4t1>yes but it's not on Sid then
13:39<metalqga>actually nsa loses secrets written on unencrypted usb keys every day
13:39<fxiny>actually i do not care at all : i have a fantastic full LUKS encrypted etch
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13:40<fxiny>i'm using it since last year and i never had a sigle problem : debian rulez
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13:40<abrotman>k1lumin4t1: the entire box?
13:40<abrotman>k1lumin4t1: or just single files?
13:41<k1lumin4t1>abrotman, the entire box
13:41<fxiny>scrub gently fills your hd up with a big file full of patterns . read scrub docs
13:41<abrotman>k1lumin4t1: no .. i mean to destroy/format/wipe disks
13:41<k1lumin4t1>abrotman, yes, the entire box
13:41<dpkg>i heard dban is Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy/CD that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers. DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction.
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13:42<fxiny>abrotman: :)
13:42<fxiny>you know the art of reding ones mind :)
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13:42<metalqga>kind, don't do this at home
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13:44<fxiny>but why having such a bad life thinking about erasing personal data in a safe manner ? do the LUKS install and relax , beware of the ice man ...
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13:45<raffaele68>i'm italian.
13:46<abrotman>we are not!
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13:47<NTU>is there a git repository for the debian kernel source with debian patches? similar to the ubuntu kernel git repositories or do people just use the source from
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13:47<NTU>if there is a git / cvs / svn kernel repository for debian, can i have the link?
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13:48<NTU>i've been looking all over and it says to use
13:48<fxiny>couple of weeks ago , i read of the swiss (?) keyboard attack . so who is safe ? no one is .
13:48<NTU>fxiny, ...
13:49<NTU>i dont care about keyboard attacks
13:49<fxiny>and i do not care about ubuntu
13:49<NTU>im not talking about ubuntu
13:49<fxiny>really , i don't know anything about ubuntu
13:49<abrotman>NTU: you could poke around in or
13:50<NTU>thanks abrotman
13:50<fxiny>ahh you talking aboiut debian kernel patches ?
13:50<Kosma>I'm trying to build a cross-compiler (for ARM+newlib target), is there some dedicated channel for such topics?
13:50<NTU>yea fxiny
13:50<NTU>i said that more than once
13:51<fxiny>NTU: apt-cache search kernel | grep patch
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13:52<NTU>i rather use git-clone http://kernel yada yada
13:52<fxiny>NTU: as usual debian does it better
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13:52<NTU>debian does what better?
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13:52<fxiny>that is a nice Manoj phrase i like
13:53<fxiny>i do like it
13:53<metalqga>serving users
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13:55<fxiny>he actually says "we can do it better" . being a user i do nothing , but i like positive people
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13:55<fxiny>complaining is not welcome my side of the moon
13:56<NTU>fxiny, i can't understand you well
13:56<fxiny>NTU: no one can :)
13:56<metalqga>he's italian, that's why
13:57<fxiny>me ? got nothing to do with banana republic
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13:57<fxiny>amphi: :)
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13:57<metalqga>we all know it's not a bp
13:58<nubbun>NTU: I've been wondering the same thing about 'what source' or if there is a set of patches.
13:58<NTU>i'll just use
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13:58<NTU>i was looking for complete linux kernel source with debian patches
13:58<NTU>not seperate files.
13:58<fxiny>apt-cache show linux-patch-debian-2.6.1
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13:59<NTU>thats a patch though
13:59<NTU>i want complete kernel source with debian patches. not just patches. and i want them all in tar.bz2
14:00<NTU>i complain a lot. i know
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14:00<metalqga>debian generally works only with .deb packages
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14:00<nubbun>thanks fxiny
14:01<NTU>well thats when the tar xjvf comes in
14:01<c36pop>hi i m trying to install qt4-doc but i m getting that error ...qt4-doc_4.4.3-1_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch
14:01<metalqga>you must be reading to some howto compile a kernel
14:01<fxiny>nubbun: what for ?
14:01<NTU>i've compiled kernels in several linux distros without a howto
14:01<NTU>i dont need a howto
14:02<abrotman>NTU: did you check the git and svn repos?
14:02<nubbun>fxiny: for pointing out the patch package.
14:02<NTU>yeah but its all .deb packages
14:02<fxiny>i think there is perl script for compiling
14:02<NTU>i want to compile it my own
14:02<fxiny>nubbun: ahhh . np :)
14:03<NTU>i want to take a lot of crap off the kernel and make it small and turn off 75% of the stuff
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14:03<NTU>in the kernel config
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14:03<c36pop>NTU : you awant to compil a recent kernek and thats all ?
14:03<NTU>from source yes
14:03<NTU>with debian patches
14:04<c36pop>make-kpkg --append-to-version "-blablabla" --initrd buildpackage --config menuconfig
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14:04<c36pop>thats the command i use each time
14:04<NTU>me too
14:04<c36pop>ok :)
14:04<NTU>but finding the source
14:04<NTU>with debian patches in the source.
14:05<fxiny>14 seconds of faaaameeee
14:05<c36pop>ha ok
14:05<NTU>not from a .deb package.
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14:06<doctor>fxiny: there's no way you'll ever get THAT.
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14:06<c36pop> hi i m trying to install qt4-doc but i m getting that error ...qt4-doc_4.4.3-1_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch
14:06<c36pop>what does it mean
14:07<NTU>it means the md5 doesn't match up
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14:07<metalqga>download the package again
14:07<fxiny>doctor: says is possible , i believe it is
14:07<fxiny>why not ?
14:07<fxiny>read it
14:07<nubbun>NTU: he meant 'faaaaaaaaaaaame'
14:07<doctor>fxiny: no, I meant your fifteen seconds of fame.
14:08<NTU>oh. heh
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14:09<Blind>I wanna run real player on Linux Os
14:09<Blind>plz help me
14:09<TwoLegitNoQuit>use wine
14:09<fxiny>doctor: we all can have 15 minutes :)
14:09<abrotman>why? there is realplayer for linux ..
14:09<TwoLegitNoQuit>i like the windows version better
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14:10<TwoLegitNoQuit>i use vlc a lot though too. except the vlc devs cant program good
14:10<amphi>mplayer can play [some] 'realmeeja' files
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14:10<fxiny>nubbun: yahhhhhh faaaaame as in sheep on drugs 15 minutes of faaaaaame
14:10<TwoLegitNoQuit>realplayer 10 for windows works great for me
14:10<TwoLegitNoQuit>on linux
14:11<fxiny>no ones remember shod
14:11<Blind>TwoLegitNoQuit how can I get this?
14:11<amphi>realplayer is not in debian
14:11<Always>i have
14:11*fxiny goes back listening to Mozart
14:11<abrotman>TwoLegitNoQuit: there is real player for linux .. why would you run the windows version?
14:12<diocles>You don't need realplayer, anyway, you just need the codecs to play Real streams.
14:12<Always>mplayer running
14:12<TwoLegitNoQuit>abrotman, because it runs fine in wine thanks to me
14:12<Always>w32codecs or w64codecs
14:12<amphi>ugh, wine
14:12<abrotman>Blind: just use the linux version of real player .. ignore TwoLegitNoQuit
14:13<TwoLegitNoQuit>wine works good if you know how to use it like a pro
14:13<Blind>abrotman yes
14:13<amphi>it does nothing I want
14:13<Always>add deb release main in /etc/apt/asources.list
14:13<diocles>Wine is free as in beer. Wait...
14:13<metalqga>we all know you are a pro NTU
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14:13<Always>apt-get install realplayer
14:13<amphi>information wants to be beer!
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14:14<TwoLegitNoQuit>metalqga, im not exactly a "pro"
14:14<diocles>Hmm, I think I've got some wine downstairs.
14:14<metalqga>quite few windows users manage to install ubuntu, you are one of the sharpest tools in the box
14:14<TwoLegitNoQuit>what the hell is with everybody against wine?
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14:14<TwoLegitNoQuit>its a better windows emulator that anybody here can write
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14:14<metalqga>whiskey for me please :P
14:14<metalqga>wine is not an emulator
14:15<TwoLegitNoQuit>if you guys are all such great programmers, how about you go write an application thats better than wine? jesus christ
14:15<Always>wine ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/winver.exe
14:15<dpkg>Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions.
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14:16<metalqga>I'm just a desktop user, reading mail and posting in forums
14:17<TwoLegitNoQuit>then i would stop acting like an ass
14:17<TwoLegitNoQuit>you're welcome
14:17<diocles>TwoLegitNoQuit: Actually, we just need to write something better than Realplayer.
14:17<amphi>or just not bother with 'real media' at all
14:17<TwoLegitNoQuit>ok im in
14:18<abrotman>diocles: that's been done .. many times
14:18<metalqga>and vlc is a great player
14:18<TwoLegitNoQuit>i'll just make my own version of realplayer
14:18<diocles>Oh wait, there's totem. :) And it's playing my Real streams. Well, how about that.
14:18<metalqga>runs on any machine and runs anything
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14:18<TwoLegitNoQuit>ah vlc. i hate vlc. i mean it works good but... the devs has such egos
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14:20*diocles turns on BBC Radio 1. Awesome, I am now socially 'cool'.
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14:21*fxiny moved from xmms2 to mpd
14:24<twb>BBC 4 is the Home Service, but what's Radio 1?
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14:25<fxiny>can't be better then digimport
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14:26<twb> explains the new-fangled names
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14:27<fxiny>is BBC linux friendly ?
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14:29<diocles>twb: Also, be careful - 'BBC 4' is a TV channel. :)
14:29<twb>Television doesn't count.
14:30<fxiny>exactly , television is dead
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14:35<adb> kpogre
14:35<stevecotton>fxiny: it's streaming video service isn't,
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14:36<abrotman>i thought they changed it to work in linux
14:36<c36pop>hi i have a lot of packagein that state : Package libswt-gtk-3.3-jni is not available, but is referred to by another package. is it notmsl ?
14:36<c36pop>normal ?
14:37<fxiny>stevecotton: i was not sure . that's why i asked .
14:37<diocles>Streaming works fine with Adobe flash.
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14:37<fxiny>adobe is evil
14:38<diocles>c36pop: New packages should depend on libswt-gtk-3.4-jni - have you updated recently?
14:39<c36pop>and i have a message like .... obsolete ... type apt-get autoremove .....
14:39<diocles>Well, you could do that.
14:39<fxiny>last debconf showed how with almost no money linux can do streming . given the sheer amout of cash BBC has you can just see how adobe is evil
14:40<c36pop>but it wants to remove programs like multisync .....
14:40<fxiny>they never learn and they are almost bankrupt , see wall street stocks , they really never learn
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14:42<diocles>c36pop: Check your sources.list is right, then run apt-get upgrade... and if that fails, apt-get install multisync...
14:42<diocles>It might just be marked as automatically installed.
14:42<c36pop>diocles : ok
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14:43<johns>Any suggestions for how to get more debug info for an "Unable to get on D-Bus" error? I just built bluez and that's the error that bluetoothd is giving me.
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14:43<Guest3418>stevecotton - you still here?
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14:46<Guest3418>I was here earlier
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14:46<Gregasus>Anybody home?
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14:46<Guest3418>doing a debian install with trouble - no boot grub not there
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14:47<Gregasus>did you configure it?
14:47<Guest3418>anyway here is my partition setup for the install I am about to do - see anything wrong with it?
14:47<Guest3418>Partions for etch install on /dev/sdc
14:47<Guest3418>/dev/sdc 8Mib unallocated space
14:47<Guest3418>/dev/sdc1 2+Gig / pri
14:47<Guest3418>/dev/sdc3 500 MiB /boot pri
14:47<Guest3418>/dev/sdc2 72 Gig ext
14:47-!-Guest3418 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
14:48<diocles>Yes, it appears to have been pasted into #debian. :/
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14:49*johns tries d-feet
14:49<Guest3418>back I guess I flooded sorry
14:49<Gregasus>there's nothing wrong with you're partitions
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14:50<Gregasus>why don't you try to boot puppy linux from a stick it has a grub config build in
14:50<Guest3418>I plan to make them all the standard inode size for symetry reasons
14:51<diocles>johns: You might get more error messages from /var/log/syslog
14:51<johns>diocles: yeah, only the same info there unfortunately
14:51<Guest3418>why is that?
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14:52<diocles>johns: Is this bluez from upstream or from Debian packages?
14:52<johns>diocles: upstream
14:53<Guest3418>so when I paste text here I nedd to preceed it with #flood so i do not get booted off, is that correct?
14:53<diocles>johns: Any particular reason?
14:53<ucu>Guest3138: or:
14:53<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
14:54<diocles>Guest3418: No, the topic refers to the #flood channel.
14:54<diocles>But obviously not everyone is in there.
14:54<ucu>to paste on #flood is quite pointless cause very few people of #debian idle there
14:55<Guest3418>Thanks, so for a debup readout or something large like that use the above links to post to and provide a url instead
14:55<johns>diocles: a2dp support primarily, under the new service system -- but with the debian packages in sid I was also unable to pair with input devices, and from reading it seems to be a known issue
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14:57<Guest3418>so if I only have a few lines I can paste thme here or is that just annoying? perhaps there is a better channel to use fro this kind of thing? Just want to be properly using the resource.
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14:58<ucu>more than 2 lines -->
14:58<diocles>johns: The bluetooth maintainers don't have much of an IRC channel - have you tried the mailing list?
14:59-!-mode/#debian [+l 366] by debhelper
14:59<diocles>johns: has some information.
14:59<Guest3418>diocles -> you stated I may get more error messages with this config...could you explain that to me?
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14:59<diocles>Guest3418: I was talking to johns then, I'm afraid.
15:00<johns>diocles: I haven't tried the mailing list yet, no, I guess that's the next step
15:00<Guest3418>diocles -> do you see anything wrong with my partion config as pasted above?
15:01<diocles>Guest3418: It has /boot at the end, which is a bit odd. Usually it would come first.
15:01<diocles>Guest3418: Have you tried the automatic partitioner in the debian installer?
15:02<Guest3418>diocles: yeah, I have been reinstalling this for about 2 days now
15:03<diocles>Why 'expert'?
15:03<Guest3418>the install fails at the grub install
15:03<Guest3418>previously I had it going to MBR
15:03<diocles>WHy is the disk on /dev/sdc? Do you have two other disks?
15:03<Guest3418>for more control
15:03<diocles>Is your BIOS looking for grub on /dev/sda?
15:04<diocles>Specifically, on the MBR of /dev/sda?
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15:05<Guest3418>the install gui says sda but when booting with Knoppix its sdc I could have a misconfig in the bios for hard drives
15:05<Guest3418>I have four SATA devices
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15:06<diocles>Make sure your BIOS is looking at the Debian drive first in the boot order, then. Install grub to the MBR.
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15:07<Guest3418>Okay - I thought I had done that from the beginning but there could still be an issue.
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15:07<Guest3418>ASUS board is wierd
15:08<Guest3418>it has SATA IDE controller with two SATA ports then a seperate SATAE1 and SATAE2
15:09<Guest3418>first HD and CD on SATA IDE or Master IDE 3 and 4 then the others
15:09<Guest3418>on SATAE1 and SATA2
15:10<Guest3418>supposedly handles two IDE and two SATA on first controller then has Jmicron for the oher two
15:11*diocles sips his wine.
15:11<Guest3418>its a good story huh...
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15:12<Guest3418>diocles-> you have any ideas about this?
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15:12<pepelucho>sex un live ... are you need sex?? , pic and videos p0rn click here :
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15:14<diocles>Guest3418: Ideas? No.
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15:14<t6435bm>hello. i want to change gnome's interface language, and i don't see anything in synaptics
15:15<t6435bm>i come from the ubuntu world. there you find the packages and you have a gnome-language-selector
15:15<t6435bm>how can i do this things in lenny?
15:15<Guest3418>right well I guess I'll do some research on this and get back to you later, thanks for the information
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15:18<diocles>t6435bm: First, have you configured your locales? (Does /etc/locale.gen have an uncommented line with your language on it?)
15:19<diocles>If it does, then you just need to choose your language at the gnome login screen.
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15:20<t6435bm>ok. i configured my locales, i have de_DE.UTF8 and es_VE.UTF8
15:20<t6435bm>but if i select them in gdm, i receive a message saying "de_DE.UTF8 cannot be found. using default language"
15:21<diocles>Have you run 'locale-gen'?
15:21<t6435bm>if i export de LANG variable in a console, the help-texts from the commands are in [german], inside that console...
15:21<t6435bm>"Generation Complete"
15:21<t6435bm>i'll return in a minute.
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15:24<t6435bm_>i'm back. "de_DE.UTF8 doesn't exist".
15:24<t6435bm_>(using default language)
15:24<diocles>Oh dear.
15:24<t6435bm_>in ubuntu you have to download translation packages... for gnome and that.
15:25<diocles>t6435bm: By the way, there's always for German-language support.
15:25<t6435bm_>there must be something similar in lenny...
15:25<t6435bm_>i know.
15:25<t6435bm_>went there.
15:25<t6435bm_>they told me not to use gnome.
15:26<t6435bm_>is there a spanish channel? could go there also.. i tried but there is nothing there
15:26<t6435bm_>welly... let me try there... thanks, diocles
15:26<Bushmills>t6435bm, on maybe
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15:27<diocles>No, it's here.
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15:28<t6435bm_>let me try #debian-de. maybe there is someone "helpy" there... #debian-es is silent silent...
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15:29<t6435bm_>there is no debian-de.
15:29<diocles>t6435bm: You're right, I've tried it on my machine and I get that error.
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15:33<diocles>t6435bm_: But it works in French.
15:33<diocles>So, there's a bug!
15:33<csc_>t6435bm_: Did you try dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
15:34<t6435bm_>csc: yes.
15:34<t6435bm_>csc: i get the help for the commands in german/spanish.
15:34<t6435bm_>the problem is gnome
15:34<diocles>Now, I probably added fr_FR with dpkg-reconfigure locales, I wonder if it makes a difference.
15:34<t6435bm_>someone in debian-es told me the KDE packages are called 'i18n'
15:34<csc_>t6435bm_: so gdm lets you choose your preferred language and then login fails with an error message ?
15:35<csc_>t6435bm_: for what locale ?
15:35<t6435bm_>it even says "Willkommen" and/or "Bienvenido", and asks in geman/spanish if i want to keep the language for all sessions.
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15:36<t6435bm_>but it says 'username' and 'password always in english and then it says the language doesn't exists.
15:36<t6435bm_>doesn't exist.
15:36*taziden écoute : Deportivo - En ouvrant la porte
15:36<taziden>wrong chan
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15:37<t6435bm_>csc: i have the following locales: de_DE.utf8 and es_VE.utf8
15:37<t6435bm_>csc: and as i said... they work in the consoles.
15:38<csc_>t6435bm_: is that a typo ? I mean that should read de_DE.UTF-8 and es_VE.UTF-8 with capital letters for UTF-8
15:38<t6435bm_>csc: yes. they are capital letters
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15:39<t6435bm_>csc: as i told you... if i export LANG in a console, it works. from the expirience with ubuntu, i know there must one package pro language, that you have to download.
15:39<t6435bm_>there are i18n packages for kde... there must be some for gnome.
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15:43<Piet>has already been discussed here?
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15:45<t6435bm_>ok, people. i export LC_ALL in a console, i run gedit from there... und it's in german / spanish
15:47<stevecotton>Hmm - a new SSH vulnerability, not the one that happened six months ago.
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15:50<t6435bm>it's done.
15:50<csc_>t6435bm_: just tried that. for etch things work
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15:50<t6435bm>csc: someone told me /etc/init.d/gdm restart
15:50<t6435bm>csc: it worked.
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15:51<csc_>of course it works !?!
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15:51<t6435bm>csc: it works. thanks, csc
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15:53<kleinlaut>hello, I'm running an etch server behind my firewall I used it mainly as storage that's why it is behind NAT
15:53<kleinlaut>but I just installed VHCS2 into it
15:53<kleinlaut>to host small website
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15:53<kleinlaut>and ftp and mail
15:54<kleinlaut>my problem is that the DNS do not seams to work properly
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15:54<kleinlaut>I created a dyndns account
15:54-!-nubbun [] has left #debian [Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away]
15:54<kleinlaut>whildcard is activated
15:55<kleinlaut>but if I can reach VHCS2
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15:55<kleinlaut>It only redirect to the panel not to the website hosted
15:56<kleinlaut>port 53 is redirected to the IP of the server
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15:56<kleinlaut>but if I try www.mydomain.tld
15:56<kleinlaut>or subdomain.mydomain.tld
15:57<kleinlaut>I have always the samething
15:57<kleinlaut>VHCS panel
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15:57<kleinlaut>I suppose I have to make a special config for bind
15:57<kleinlaut>but what?
15:57<Piet>kleinlaut: this sounds like your web server is not setup the wy you need it to be setup
15:57<Bushmills>kleinlaut: that's all dns does. hostname to ip
15:58<Bushmills>other problem -> different cause
15:58<kleinlaut>Piet, so it would be an apache misconfiguration?
15:59<Piet>kleinlaut: so you have setup multiple dyndns hostnames and have scripts running to update all of them (in case your ip address is dynamically assigned / not static)
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16:00<Piet>or is it that you are trying to address the virtual hosts by different ports on one domain?
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16:01<kleinlaut>Piet, my IP is static I have setup only one domain :
16:01<kleinlaut>it points OK to my debian server (port 80 and 53 are redirected)
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16:02<kleinlaut>the problem is that it do not redirect to the right place
16:02<Piet>ah you want to address different virtual hosts via subdomains, sorry i missed that bit
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16:02<kleinlaut>Piet, yes
16:03<kleinlaut>I can enter any subdomain or even www.mydomain.tld
16:03<Piet>so make sure these virtual hosts are set up oon your web server
16:03<kleinlaut>OK let me check in that direction
16:03<kleinlaut>I was checking bind
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16:03<kleinlaut>thanks for your help
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16:06<johns>diocles: hah, figured it out
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16:06<johns>diocles: bluetooth.conf wasn't installed to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/
16:06<diocles>Ah, wie schoen. :) And we didn't even need to go to
16:06<johns>so the bluetooth security policies weren't loaded
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16:25<kleinlaut>Piet, so I check out the vhosts
16:25<kleinlaut><VirtualHost _default_:*> works correctly
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16:26<kleinlaut>but the other one : <VirtualHost xx.xx.Xx.xx:80>
16:27<kleinlaut>where xx is my external ip
16:27<kleinlaut>this one do not work
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16:32<Piet>kleinlaut: you probably want to use name based virtual hosts, not ip based
16:33<Piet>kleinlaut: to have different websites on different hostnames, you need different virtual hosts. set up a virtualhost for each subdomain you want to use a different website on
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16:34<Piet>i guess how to achieve this, is more a question or #nameofyourwebserver or #vhcs in the end, not so much of #debian
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16:35<kleinlaut>thank you Piet
16:35<kleinlaut>I'll look in that direction
16:35<Piet>good luck
16:35<Piet>i'll be gone for a while now
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17:01<Guest3440>do u read me?
17:01<Guest3440>#join linux
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17:07<binarymutant>does ddrescue and gddrescue do the same thing?
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17:12<simonrvn>more or less.. one of them has better features/works better or something.
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17:14<francisco>Buenas, alguien que sepa espanol
17:15<francisco>Some body speak spanish?
17:15<diocles>francisco: Try #debian-es
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17:28<yomismosolo>good afternoon
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17:28<user01>lenny is stable?
17:29<algspd>anyone knows how to disable recommended packages on apt-build?
17:29<ucu>user01: not yet
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17:29<user01>oh thought i saw it on slashdot but that is release candidate
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17:30<algspd>when i try to install pbuilder, apt-build tryes to install lots of packages
17:30<algspd>how can i solve it?
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17:30<user01>when it goes stable it automatically upgrade from etch right?
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17:31<algspd>only if you write "stable" instead of "etch" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
17:31<ucu>user01: when you have "stable" instead of "etch" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
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17:33<bgat>I'm wanting to install Apache JMeter on sid, for which there is no debian package. Usually I take that as a "warning sign" of some kind. :)
17:34<bgat>Anything I need to be aware of?
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17:36<sdfsdf>DI MERDA
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17:39<jlaroche>hey everyong
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17:39<jlaroche>i am having trouble getting 7.1 speakers working with ubuntu 8.10 64bit
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17:41<binarymutant>should ddrescue be superseded by gddrescue? At what point could that happen?
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17:45<jlaroche>could anyone help me with 7.1 speakers in Ubuntu
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17:46<Slurb>how do you reconfigure xorg
17:46<Slurb>with dpkg-reconfigure
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17:52<binarymutant>Slurb, i dont think it works anymore, it used to guess when reconfiguring but idk anymore
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17:54<Slurb>im figuring it out
17:54<Slurb>just bought a new monitor
17:54<Slurb>22" widescreen
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17:56<binarymutant>Slurb if you need the template it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
17:56<binarymutant>or dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
17:56<binarymutant>something like that Slurb
17:57<cahoot>Slurb: xrandr -q doesn't show the new monitor?
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18:08<victor>hi every boyd
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18:09<CaptJack>Evening all
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18:10<tmg1|emacs>is down for anyone else?
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18:12<tmg1|emacs>oh weird
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18:13<tmg1|emacs>it loads in links just fine, must be something wrong with dillo
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19:00<x>so I need some help with install failure...getting grub stage 1.5 then grub loading then error21
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19:03<x>you mean people have lives
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19:10<themill>x: 21 : Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
19:10<LL00>I did sgml to pdf with debiandoc2pdf, how I can do xml to pdf ? I got error messages
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19:11<LL00>it's about d-i manual xml files
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19:12<x>themill: but I saw the install partitions in the expertgui
19:12<x>is it possible I intalled the grub into a disk 1 when it should have been disk 2
19:12<x>i have sda sdb sdc
19:12<x>I installed into sdb
19:13<x>but I think thre grub installed to sda
19:14<x>Is there a way I can hack this through using knoppix to load and then go to what folder and do what?
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19:15<x>well thanks anyway going back to hacking
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19:19<Web-sidux379>hi leute
19:19<Web-sidux379>kurze frage
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19:20<Web-sidux379>kann als root scannen, aber nicht als normaler user
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19:20<Web-sidux379>wie kann ich als normaler user scannen?
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19:21<Web-sidux379>ich habe keine rechte als normaler user
19:21<blarson>!tell Web-sidux379 about de
19:22<Web-sidux379>okay, thank you =)
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19:27<x>anyone here
19:28<pbe>I have a question. I've installed some window managers just for testing and now I want to remove them. I used aptitude remove PACKAGE --purge. However, it seems like there's tons of files left on the filesystem from these packages. How do I make sure that everything is deleted?
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19:29<x>not sure but try: man -k aptitude
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19:29<x>may provide more than one way
19:30<x>So I can see the grub file menu.list
19:30<x>is there a way I can make changes and then save while I am in knoppix session
19:31<aaronbrown1988>pbe: Are you looking to remove the config files, or any packages the window managers were dependant on?
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19:32<pbe>aaronbrown1988: The config files. Awesome for example, leaves some hidden folders in ~/
19:32<pbe>makes me wonder if there's something else I have to manually remove
19:33<aaronbrown1988>pbe: hidden files in ~/ would be left as they weren;t installed with the package, awesome would have copied them there when it was first run. So i'm not sure if there's a way to remove those.
19:34<aaronbrown1988>pbe: other than just deleting them by hand
19:34<Halitech>aaronbrown1988, would deborphan work for those files?
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19:35<pbe>aaronbrown1988: ok, so it's just the config files and not something else?
19:35<aaronbrown1988>Halitech: I've not really used deborphan so I'm not too sure.
19:36<x>so I need some help hacking my new install - I have an error21
19:36<Bushmills>no, it won't
19:36<Halitech>aaronbrown1988, me either Bushmills ok, wasn't sure so thought I'd mention it
19:36<x>debian etch installed, now running knoppix to hack it
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19:38<aaronbrown1988>pbe: aptitude purge package says it will remove config files and such as well. Although I think it only removes the system wide ones that get installed. ie the default ones in /usr/share.
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19:39<Bushmills>yes, removes only those files the installer knows about. files in /home are created per user, after iinstallation
19:40<x>hello testing...can anyone see this msg
19:40<Bushmills>would be a bit fiddly, running through all user home dir hunting down those files
19:40<Bushmills>in addition, there is a lot of conflict potential
19:41<pab>x, this is the best guy I know for explaining grub (if that is what you need)
19:41<Bushmills>imagine a net share home dir, with apps installed on a remote machine, used with user home dir from where those packages are removed
19:41<x>pab: thanks for your help I'll check it out
19:41<pbe>I see, thanks.
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19:47<Bushmills>was dpkg's (channel bot) former name apt?
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19:50<binarymutant>can oftc register names?
19:52<mikegrb>you mean nicks?
19:52<binarymutant>ya but nm, I got it
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19:59*AzaTht likes code generators creating 3 million lines of c++ code
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20:03<sandsmark>hmm, how does one backport a package?
20:03<sandsmark>doesn't the bot have a nice and short howto?
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20:04<binarymutant>sandsmark, on backports or itself?
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20:04<sandsmark>binarymutant: howto on backporting a single package from one release to another
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20:04<binarymutant>did you msg backport to dpkg?
20:05<sandsmark>thanks =)
20:05<sandsmark>"simple sid backport" was what I was looking for =)
20:06<urusaipoppu>can anybody help me, I'm trying to host multiple domains on my debian server but from the internal network I cannot access my sites from the I have to access from the internal IP, the domains work fine outside the internal network
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20:07<Bushmills>urusaipoppu: put host names into your /etc/hosts and associate them with the LAN address of your server
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20:07<Bushmills>urusaipoppu: or access your server through a public proxy
20:08<urusaipoppu>Bushmills, on my server or my other machines?
20:08<Bushmills>urusaipoppu: i don'r know of any other machines
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20:08<Bushmills>on the machine you try to access the server from
20:09<urusaipoppu>is there an /etc/hosts on os x?
20:09<Bushmills>urusaipoppu: you might want to ask that on an os x specific channel
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20:11<erKURITA>urusaipoppu there should be
20:11<erKURITA>given that OSX is a Unix
20:11<urusaipoppu>okies I'll have a look around google
20:11<erKURITA>uh, can't you just ls /etc/hosts ?
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20:15<urusaipoppu>thanks guys that worked a treat :)
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20:20<slothy>quick awk question: i basically have two text files of data annoyingly starting with either x= y or x = y . i
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20:21<slothy>i am trying to set up a conditional statement with awk that only pipes the output into a file if $2 == "="
20:21<Guest3464>nope... I am just trying my new os
20:21<Guest3464>slothy are you she or he?
20:22<Guest3464>good... are you in usa
20:23<slothy>not important
20:23<slothy>./test${i}.sh | awk '$2 != "=" {print $1,$2,"hello"}' > test${i}list
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20:23<slothy>for the case of x= y
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20:23<Bushmills>slothy: must be an awk script? or is the script only extracting $2?
20:24<slothy>the bash part at the beginning just creates the files that have x = y or x= y
20:24<slothy>in either 3 columns or 2 collumns
20:24<Guest3464>sorry slothy I do not chat in a very long time
20:24<slothy>but the rest isn't an awk script
20:24<slothy>just a one liner
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20:25<slothy>awk takes the second column and then if it isn't equal to (!=) to "=" then it pipes the stuff to the test#list file
20:25<slothy>but if it is equal to = it just creates an empty file
20:26<slothy>how do i suppress that?
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20:26<Guest3464>sorry I went to pick the telephone
20:26<s3a>VBox status code: -1912 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_VERSION_MISMATCH). plz help
20:27<Guest3464>slothy what do you do?
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20:28<Bushmills>slothy: you could assign output of awk to a shell var, and only if [ ! -z $VAR ] ; then echo $VAR > file
20:28<slothy>i'll try that
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20:28<slothy>i've coded in idl and matlab and know some basic unix commandy sewtuff but i'm pretty
20:29<slothy>command stuff* but i'm pretty new
20:29<slothy>not pretty
20:29<slothy>i mean... nevermind
20:29<Bushmills>my last serious awking dates back 15 years but i should be pretty fit with shell scripting
20:30<slothy>awk is just so cool
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20:30<slothy>i was observing for my thesis and accidentally named some of my data flat_#### instead of object_#### and just fixed it immediately with awk
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20:31<Guest3464>slothy You have a good night. I am out
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20:31<Bushmills>slothy: you know how to assign command output to shell var?
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20:35<slothy>i just said to > $test
20:35<slothy>like this:
20:35<slothy>var = $(./test${i}.sh | awk '$2 != "=" {print $1,$2,"hello"}')
20:36<Bushmills>no spaces around "="
20:37<Bushmills>if [ -z $VAR] resp. if [ ! -z $VAR ] test then for VAR empty or not
20:39<slothy>yikes when i output the awk to a script variable it completely drops the column format and puts it all out into one line
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20:39<Bushmills>after echo? trying double quotes around $VAR
20:40<slothy>oh yeah
20:40<slothy>you are awesome!
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20:44<pab>Why does truecrypt need to be compiled from source? Legal or policy problems?
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20:45<slothy>one more question:
20:45<slothy>if [ ! -z $var ] ; then echo $var > test${i}list
20:45<slothy>gives an error : ./ line 14: [: too many arguments
20:46<Bushmills>doubles quotes arond $var
20:47<Bushmills>if [ ! -z "$var" ] ; then .... ; fi
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20:48<slothy>ah yes, thank you again
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20:51<Bushmills>pab: "You may copy and/or distribute This Product, provided that You do not modify This Product..." thus no GPL, not free. not part of Debian.
20:52<LL00>lenny will no use gnome 2.24 ?
20:53<pab>ah....thx Bushmills
20:53<cmyers>Hmm, I am having an NFS problem, maybe someone can help. I have an NFS server and client, both directly connected on the same network. The server is sharing a mount with rw permissions: (/etc/exports line is "/media/fileserver 10.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)") The client tries to mount it, /etc/fstab line looks like this: " /media/fileserver nfs rw,user,auto 0 0". The user has the same UID on both machines.
20:53<cmyers>And yet, whenever I mount the share, I get read-only access.
20:53<Bushmills>LL00: 2.22, likely
20:53<cmyers>when I try to modify something, I get permission denined. Any ideas?
20:53<blarson>LL00: See
20:54<LL00>I know I have lenny with gnome right now
20:54<Bushmills>LL00: oh, i thought you asked
20:54<LL00>oh even sid it's 2.22
20:54<slothy>I have two columns, one of length N and the other of length M and i want to combine them into one column of length M+N, how do i do this?
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20:57<Bushmills>COL1="foo" ; COL2="bar" ; COL1+="$COL2"
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20:57<pab>Bushmills, just a few short years ago...that wouldn't have bothered me as much :(
20:58<Bushmills>pab: doesn't need to bother you know. just find the binary in the net, as you'd have to otherwise anyway
20:59<pab>Bushmills, yes, an I will. It's the principle I suppose.
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21:00<Bushmills>pab: remember, it is the choice of truecrypt authors to not licence it under GPL, not Debian's
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21:01<cmyers>pab: Yes, it most certainly is the principle of it. In principle, everything in debian must be able to be modified so it can be patched should a security vulnerability or bug be found. That is one of Debian's core principles.
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21:03<cmyers>no NFS wizards here, huh? =( seems like my setup used to work, and something changed recently, maybe NFSv4 or something. *sigh* *continues to read howtos*
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21:30<JBastos>im having some throuble installing my wifi atheros ar242x on lenny
21:30<JBastos>i've tryed 2 days now to make it work
21:30<Bushmills>JBastos: madwifi, or the ath5k module from kernel 2.6.26 or later
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21:31<JBastos>but looks like madwifi doesnt work on kernel 2.6.26 amd
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21:31<Bushmills>with 2.6.26, you can use the ath5k module
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21:32<JBastos>k... gonna try ath5k module
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21:33<JBastos>tks Bushmills ... any other way.. replay it... im trying on lenny
21:33<Bushmills>JBastos: same as me. with atheros 2425 right now
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21:35<Bushmills>(but using kernel compiled from vanilla 2.6.27)
21:35<JBastos>does it matter? cuzz im on amd lenny
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21:36<Bushmills>for me it did. built-in jmicron card reader was a bit tricky to get going
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21:38<dpkg>we are going to replace you soon, or human, or the GNU fighers
21:38<Bushmills>JBastos: this one was unproblematic. same as yours, i think: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
21:39<dpkg>we are going to replace you soon, or human, or the GNU fighers
21:39<dpkg>rumour has it, mpc is musepack, yet another audio compression routine. It's lgpl, and there's an xmms plugin and encode/decode utilities available - ask me about rarewares.
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21:39<JBastos>yep same as mine
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21:44<JBastos>Bushmills, latest kernel has this module, so i just need to modprobe it?
21:45<Delta_x>My ethernet port isn't detected on my HP dev2845se laptop durring the 4.0 r5 install. I'm using a netinstall CD but no network mirror because it isn't detecting the port. After I install this can I set it up so it detects and can use the port?
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21:48<kurumin>someone can help me??
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21:49<rickbot>question: i used to use sidux and now i use etch because the latest version of xorg screws up my dual-head setup. anyone know a way around this?
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21:51<rickbot>i.e.: the second screen is sort of super-imposed over screen 0
21:51<rickbot>the traditional dual head deal doesn't work
21:52<rickbot>and i really wish i could use newer versions of some apps
21:54<rickbot>even going to lenny causes the same effect
21:54<rickbot>i'd be happy anyways. i'm tired of the ocasional problems of sid
21:55<rickbot>happy with lenny, that is
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21:58<rickbot>wish i could just 'dist-upgrade' but...
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22:09<rickbot>using xorg-ati btw
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22:11<Delta_x>I just installed Debian 4.0 R5 on my laptop, it won't recognize the ethernet port so I can't use the internet, I did a minimal install off a net install CD I had. What should I do?
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22:13<Delta_x>Any ideas? I got debian working before.
22:14<Delta_x>Ahh yes. This is an AMD chip and I used the i386 installer...
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22:15<rickbot>bad time for support in #debian i guess...
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22:42<JBastos>Bushmills, I'm installing from compat-wireless with kernel 2.6.26... looks like everything is going fine... need to make install yet...
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22:42<JBastos>i hope it works...
22:43<cmyers>Hmm, I am having an NFS problem, maybe someone can help. I have an NFS server and client, both directly connected on the same network. The server is sharing a mount with rw permissions: (/etc/exports line is "/media/fileserver 10.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)") The client tries to mount it, /etc/fstab line looks like this: " /media/fileserver nfs rw,user,auto 0 0". The user has the same UID on both machines.
22:43<cmyers>And yet, whenever I mount the share, I get read-only access. When I try to modify something, I get permission denined. Any ideas?
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22:44<rickbot>same gid on both?
22:44<cmyers>rickbot: yup
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22:44<rickbot>beyond me :(
22:45<cmyers>I've tried 10.*.*.*, (the actual IP), and the host name, all to no avail.
22:45<cmyers>it's wacky =(
22:48<cmyers>rickbot: thanks for trying anyways. Seems like it's *crickets* on this channel today.
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22:52<tom-bbl>Hello I changed the video card in my PC and now X won't start. How do I "install" the video card driver from unix shell?
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22:53<cmyers>tom-bbl - what video card brand/model?
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22:54<rickbot>cmyers: see what you mean... radeon 9550
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22:55<rickbot>been stuck with etch for months now cuz i got the same reaction on #sidux .... silence
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22:56<chinchin>u can try to modifier ur xorg.config...
22:56<cmyers>this channel used to be jumpin' - one of the best things about debian =/
22:56<rickbot>chinchin: how?
22:56<cmyers>tom-bbl: you should be able to get X working without hardware acceleration by fixing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
22:56<cmyers>one sec
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22:57<rickbot>the problem happened with the changes in xorg versions - to 1.3
22:58<cmyers>open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the part under Section "Device" / Identifier "<something>" / Driver "<fglrx or something" / ...
22:58<cmyers>and change it to Driver "vesa"
22:58<rickbot>its not fglrx. xorg-ati
22:58<cmyers>vesa should work with pretty much any hardware to get X up and running - but without hardware acceleration
22:58<cmyers>either way, vesa should get you running again
22:58<cmyers>then you can play with xorg-ati or fglrx or whatever.
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22:59<rickbot>i'm running now. just can't upgrade
22:59<cmyers>oh, upgrading breaks it or something?
22:59<rickbot>or dual-head is ---
22:59<rickbot>upgrading breaks dual-head, yeah
22:59<cmyers>oh, rickbot, I started out answering tom-bbl's question but I see you jumped in, that explains why I am confused.
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23:00<rickbot>sry to confuse :P
23:00<cmyers>if your xorg.conf file is the same, but it works before upgrade and breaks after, then it's probably a bug in the upgraded driver =/
23:00<cmyers>or Xorg itsself.
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23:00<rickbot>upgrade in xorg does it
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23:00<cmyers>I am less familiar with ati stuff, haven't made one of those cards work in 2-3 years.
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23:01<cmyers>is xorg-ati just xorg + the open source ATI drivers?
23:01<rickbot>i've had all the nightmares with fglrx... only way it works is to build a custome kernel, in my experience
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23:02<cmyers>I run a custom kernel anyways =)
23:02<cmyers>and I run the proprietary install scripts (for both nvidia and ati), rather than doing it "the debian way". the debian way never worked so well for me, sadly =/
23:02<rickbot>but i have it now anyways.. just have to switch xorg.conf's when i want to play a game etc. cuz i don't have 3d in xorg-ati with dual-head
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23:03<cmyers>so can you tell me more about how it fails to work?
23:03<cmyers>you said the screens overlap or something?
23:03<rickbot>yeah... something like that
23:03<cmyers>are there any errors in the logs?
23:03<rickbot>if i upgrade xorg with the same xorg.conf,
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23:04<rickbot>both screens are sort of overlapped and ... its just f**ked
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23:05<cmyers>it could be that the new xorg is pickier about your config
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23:05<cmyers>in your driver device sections, do you have a BusID and a Screen specified for each device?
23:05<rickbot>i thought that maybe someone else out there might run dual head and have encountered this issue?
23:05<rickbot>one sec..
23:05<cmyers>I run dual head, but with the nvidia binary drivers =(
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23:06<cmyers>hmm, actually, I guess my machine at work runs with an ATI card, now that I think about it, but that machine runs RHEL5, so it's older xorg =(
23:06<cmyers><insert generic denigrating comments about RHEL =D >
23:07<rickbot>my xorg.conf
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23:07<cmyers>wow, lotsa modelines
23:07<cmyers>what generated this file, some config script?
23:08<rickbot>works now but if i upgrade, i'm tits up
23:08<cmyers>sidux - what is that?
23:08<cmyers>some config utility?
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23:08<x>what editor can I use from root terminal that will allow me to save menu.list in the /boot/grub directory?
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23:09<cmyers>x: any editor, but you must run it as root.
23:09<x>using knoppix to hack my debian install
23:09<cmyers>if you are using knoppix, you probably have both "vim" and "nano" available to you.
23:09<x>knoopix has a root terminal is that not root?
23:10<x>thanks for the info
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23:10<cmyers>x: yeh, if you are using root terminal, that oughtta do it =)
23:10<rickbot>i made the file by installing with one monitor on and then ran the live disc with the other monitor attached and combined the data
23:11<cmyers>rickbot: Seems like sidux is pretty close to debian, so it seems like the generated xorg.conf oughtta work, nonetheless, you might try starting from scratch and letting a util in debian generate it
23:11<cmyers>most drivers come with utilities to do so
23:11<rickbot>'sidux' is sid with various scripts, etc. to help avoid the breakages in sid
23:12<rickbot>the new version of xorg is what did it
23:13<rickbot>ppl involved with 'kanotix' went on there own trip and made 'sidux'
23:13<cmyers>well if it's broken in sid, it's broken in sid, nobody can get around that without fixing the breakage. If it's a config problem or whatever, we can try to help, but I'm not an actual debian developer or anything, and I don't know my way around Xorg very well =/
23:13<cmyers>also, generic /sigh at mad crazy forking and duplicated effort.
23:13<rickbot>its not just sid. the same happens if i upgrade to lenny... new version of xorg
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23:14<cmyers>afaik, lenny is very close to being the next stable, and should be fairly bug-free right now, which lends credence to my opinion that this is probably more a misconfiguartion than a bug/breakage.
23:15<dmoerner>rickbot, throw out the fll-generated xorg.conf and regenerate it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
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23:16<cmyers>dmoerner : thanks - that is the command I was trying to dig up for him - I too suggest using a config file generated by the same xorg you are trying to install
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23:16<rickbot>dmoerner: for dual-head? sounds risky... i'll back up first but thx
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23:17<cmyers>rickbot: it is easier to add in dual head later than regenerate the whole file by hand.
23:17<rickbot>i've often heard about issues with mode-lines but no one has ever explained what the problem is
23:18<cmyers>to make it dual head, just copy your screen, monitor, and device sections and rename them, add the BusID and Screen parts you already know from your old one, and edit the ServerLayout to add the second screen.
23:18<rickbot>different monitors though...
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23:18<cmyers>but get it working single-head first
23:18<cmyers>actually, monitor sections are dumb.
23:18<cmyers>I always just leave them alone, as the default.
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23:18<cmyers>unless your monitor is from 1973, it should just work.
23:19<rickbot>i only need 'one' resolution anyway
23:19<cmyers>ah, the beauty of "multisync"
23:19<cwood>Question about sound: why would mplayer and audacious give different levels of sound volume with the same sound card volume setting?
23:19<rickbot>mplayer uses the pcm volume and some other apps use alsa settings
23:20<cmyers>cwood: There are a couple possibilities, but hte first that comes to mind is maybe one is using OSS and the other ALSA, or perhaps there is some sort of sound server running on your machine one is using and hte other isn't
23:20<cwood>No sounds server like arts, no.
23:20<Delta_x>My AMD Turion 64 x2 proc. What archetecture do I download.
23:20<cmyers>Delta_x: amd64
23:20<rickbot>i often have this irritation when i have amarok set the way i want and the open something in mplayer..
23:20<cmyers>i386 would also work, but amd64 is closer.
23:21<cmyers>hooray, people are alive. time to try my luck again
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23:21<cmyers>Hmm, I am having an NFS problem, maybe someone can help. I have an NFS server and client, both directly connected on the same network. The server is sharing a mount with rw permissions: (/etc/exports line is "/media/fileserver 10.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)") The client tries to mount it, /etc/fstab line looks like this: " /media/fileserver nfs rw,user,auto 0 0". The user has the same UID on both machines.
23:21<cmyers>And yet, whenever I mount the share, I get read-only access. When I try to modify something, I get permission denined. Any ideas?
23:21<rickbot>amarok uses volume settings separate from the system. mplayer uses where your sound card is at
23:22<cwood>Are we able to get all our sound apps using the system volume settings? Or is it application-dependent? I haven't noticed anything in audacious saying "don't use my volume settings".
23:22<Delta_x>Hmm, I tried the AMD64 testing netinstall and it gave me a boot error when I tried to boot off the CD.
23:22<chinchin>what's the error info
23:22<Delta_x>One second. Let me boot into it.
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23:24<Delta_x>Well it boots and gets to the 'Installer boot menu' I select 'Install'
23:24<rickbot>cwood: if you change the volume in xmms or mlplayer, you'll notice that in kmix, the pcm volume is changed, in amarok or something that uses alsa (i think) it will have its own volume setting
23:24<Delta_x>Boot failed: press a key to retry...
23:25<Delta_x>Loading /install.amd/vmlinuz.isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4239, drive 9F
23:25<cwood>rickbot: thank you, I'll try that out.
23:25<cmyers>what a lovely descriptive error message =/
23:25<cmyers>oh, that second line is a little more helpful
23:25<cmyers>are you sure your disk isn't going bad?
23:25<chinchin>u boot with cd or harddriver
23:25<Delta_x>Yes. I just was in Vista Ultimate a few hours ago. It's only a 3 month old computer. No abuse. Sat on my desk most of the time.
23:26<Delta_x>Booted off a CD.
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23:26<cmyers>Delta_x: that doesn't necessarily mean anything, as different OSes store thigns in different places on the disk, and disks are MORE likely to fail in the first year than years 2-4
23:26<chinchin>r u sure ur cd is fine?
23:27<cmyers>Delta_x - is this error while booting off the CD, or hard drive?
23:27<chinchin>he said
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23:27<cmyers>ah, I misunderstood
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23:27<cmyers>did you checksum the image before burning it?
23:27<chinchin>i think its his cd problem
23:27<Delta_x>Hmm, is there a way I could check the disk? When I used i386 to install that worked. But it didn't detect my ethernet port so I did a minimal install. I figured I would try the amd64 version.
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23:27<Delta_x>No, I have never had a problem with disk images.
23:28<rickbot>and burn DAO
23:28<chinchin>amd64 wont work as u failed to detct ur ethernet
23:28<rickbot>8x or less
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23:28<cmyers>Delta_x - I don't usually md5sum them either...but I have seen many people encounter problems, 612MB is a lot of bits where a flip can happen.
23:28<Delta_x>It's just the AMD64 I have problems with. The i386 worked fine off the same download.
23:28<cmyers>erm, or however big the image is.
23:28<Delta_x>Net install. About 50mb.
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23:29<cmyers>I second what chinchin said, that if your ethernet didn't work in i386, it is unlikely to work with amd64
23:29<cmyers>what brand/chipset is your ethernet, do you know?
23:30<Delta_x>Not sure. HP dv2845se laptop.
23:30<Delta_x>I got some version of Linux running on it a few months ago right after I got it. I think it was Ubuntu.
23:30<chinchin>u d better download debian-cd1 to install, about 650M, and u dont need ur ethernet: much easier
23:30<Delta_x>But after I install will the ethernet work?
23:30<cmyers>that said, I haven't seen many ethernet adapters that don't work off the bat with debian, weird...
23:31<cmyers>can you do `sudo lspci -v -v -v > lspci.txt` and put it in a pastebin?
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23:31<Delta_x>I can try.
23:31<chinchin>mine doesnt work neither, so i installed with cd
23:32<Delta_x>I have Deb running on 2 servers and a laptop and I have never had a problem.
23:32<Delta_x>I can boot into the i386 install just fine.
23:32<chinchin>i knew but ur ethenet card cant work
23:33<chinchin>so that means nothing
23:33<cmyers>*smack head* getting it in a pastebin will be hard with no ethernet, huh? =/ maybe you can just look at the output and see if anything looks like an ethernet chipset
23:33<Delta_x>lspci command not found.
23:33<cmyers>try /usr/bin/lspci
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23:33<Delta_x>no such file or directory? I am root.
23:34<chinchin>u download the wrong cd just.
23:34<cmyers>I thought lspci was part of hte base install =/
23:34<cmyers>it's in the pciutils package.
23:34<Delta_x>I suppose not. It has always worked before. But then again, that was off a network mirror, this is the base install of the netinstall cd./
23:34<chinchin>there is a cd named debian-i386-netxxx , about 200m; it contains many drivers for ethenet card
23:35<cwood>Lots of things aren't part of the base install... but that depends on what you view as base, really.
23:35<Delta_x>So I should just download the full CD and re-install.
23:35<cmyers>yeh, I can only speak from my own experience, I almost always use the business card network install CD, and immediately switch /etc/apt/source.list to point to the net, and I haven't had many problems
23:35<chinchin>thats a good way
23:35<cmyers>I'd follow chinchin's suggestion and try the 200MB one
23:36<cmyers>what I view as base is "can my system boot, ping google, and run apt-get install <foo>"
23:36<Delta_x> that will work then>
23:37<Delta_x>Well that would be a nice install. Unfortunatly, I fail at 2 out of 3 of those. .33% repeating of course. That's and F.
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23:38<Delta_x>Is it just me, or is the debian download server really slow today.
23:39<cmyers>I did an apt-get update/upgrade earlier and pulled 512kbps, but that's a different server than the CD images, I think.
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23:39<Delta_x>I click to download a file and the window to save it doesn't even come up.
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23:40<Delta_x>I'm considering just running a wget on my server and going out some where and dealing with it tomorrow. Haha.
23:40<chinchin>good luck
23:42<Delta_x>I'm going to try the FTP.
23:44<Delta_x>Yeah, 25 minutes. Someone must have tripped on a cable. ;)
23:45<chinchin>what's FT...
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23:47<chinchin>...why my xchat just show FT on the screen.
23:47<Delta_x>And.. back to over an hour...
23:48<chinchin>yeah, normal. but i got miror in my campus, 10M/s
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23:50<Delta_x>Lucky you :)
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23:51<cmyers>back when I was at Purdue, we had, but ironically, it was faster to use west coast mirrors.
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