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---Logopened Sun Nov 23 00:00:03 2008
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00:00<kop>Bushmills : If you get a cf card you've no moving parts. (Be sure to get sandisk, others don't follow spec and won't boot)
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00:00<Bushmills>11.5" ...
00:00<kop>Bushmills : Yeah. I think they've got cases half that size, if you don't want room for an extra full-size pci card.
00:01<Bushmills>that's 29.2 cm
00:01<kop>Bushmills : But then you need to order a la carte.
00:01<Bushmills>about the size of a garage
00:02<kop>Bushmills : Cf is a lot more expensive per MB though.
00:02<acidslep>hmm, while im here, ill ask: i wish to browse a site then select file and have command executed on file, i was hoping for an open-with equivlant in lynx or something.
00:03<kop>acidslep : There's probably a firefox plugin. Otherwise, if you know the url use wget or curl.
00:04<acidslep>does anyone know something i could do for that? it really has to be cli since i will be ssh'd into this machine. (it has not periferals)
00:04<Bushmills>acidslep: wget url -O filename ; command filename ; rm filename
00:04<acidslep>yes i am know that. i was hoping i could just browse with lynx and select file, and it would be executed right away. on the target file. see what i mean?
00:04<Bushmills>acidslep: can be cast into script, of course
00:04<kop>acidslep : You could read the lynx or links man pages.
00:05<acidslep>i did kop, i dont understand MIME though, is that wat i need to do?
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00:05<acidslep>Bushmills what kind of script? would it involve rendering html cause thats crazy
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00:06<kop>acidslep : Open 2 terminal windows. Use links in one. select the link. Copy and paste into the other terminal window where Bushmills wget command lives.
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00:07<acidslep>not really what i was looking for. i understand that would work though.
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00:09<mossmoss>this is the output from a search for "kernel" using aptitude.
00:09<acidslep>let me tell you about what im trying to do, maybe there is something else i can change to make it easier. i have a http server with media files *.avi right. so i can mplayer server:80/file.avi and it will play wonderfully. i want to be able to browse these files now, so i can simply select the file i wish to play and it will play
00:09<mossmoss>what i see only goes up to 2.6.18
00:09<kop>acidslep : It looks to me like lynx has the ability to pass urls to external commands.
00:09<Bushmills>acidslep: want a hackish solution? use inotify/dnotify to execute command when new file in download dir appears. then download from browser
00:09<acidslep>coool Bushmills, ill look at that.
00:09<kop>mossmoss : The 2.6.24 kernels are there with "etchnhalf" in the name.
00:09<Bushmills>you could have one download dirs for different commands.
00:10<acidslep>i considered something like that. but i would have to download the entire file, that would not be optimal
00:10<Bushmills>incron is a way to use dnotify
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00:10<kop>mossmoss : etchnhalf is now part of etch.
00:10<acidslep>kop, where is this ability?
00:11<acidslep>Bushmills is it possible to use that inotify and still stream in the manner i would like?
00:11<acidslep>when i mplayer server/fyle.avi the streaming is transparent
00:11<acidslep>there is no latency or anything.
00:12<Bushmills>acidslep: tricky but yes - you can respond to many different file/directory events. so the event choices determine when command receives control
00:12<kop>acidslep : Search for "externals" in the man page.
00:12<Bushmills>(and therefore, whether file has been completely downloaded, or only starts to come in)
00:14<acidslep>with the http stream, a am able to seek around the file as if it was local. i do not thing that sort of thing could be done?
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00:15<Bushmills>acidslep: program gets control only as result of an event caused by web browser "download" so you depend on that.
00:16<Bushmills>i suppose you could also save the url, and respond to that
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00:17<acidslep>hmm, i supposed i could have a remote firefox running. and setup firefox to run the command properly XD. that might actually work.
00:17<acidslep>Bushmills, yes certainly. but i was hoping for single click play.
00:18<Bushmills>at that point one would probably have to ask why you need a web browser at all?
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00:19<lollmon>where is my x configuration stored?
00:19<Bushmills>lollmon: /etc/X11
00:19<Bushmills>xorg.conf in there, probably
00:20<kop>lollmon : But you may find simpler: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
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00:21<kop>lollmon : Oops: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
00:21<acidslep>heh, it still seems MIME options would be the best idea. is it?
00:21<lollmon>and the package that adds mouse support/copy/paste to console?
00:21<lollmon>curses something?
00:21<Bushmills>lollmon: gpm
00:22<kop>acidslep : Or you could export the remote fs with nfs.
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00:24<lollmon>standard mouse port for ps2?
00:26<acidslep>kop, i heard bad things about nfs. and i have doubts as to the speed/quality of the stream.
00:26<Bushmills>why should http be better than nfs?
00:27<lollmon>ok. any way to use aptitude search and filter out only installed packages?
00:27<kop>acidslep : I've not tried it, but there's a newer nfs now. I think nfs mostly has problems with locking, not speed. You may also want to look at the underlying fs. I hear jfs is good for large files. Mostly, your network will be the bottleneck if you do the math.
00:27<Bushmills>nothing wrong with nfs speed, i find
00:28<kop>lollmon : The aptitude docs suck. See file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/index.html use ~ifoo to search for installed foo.
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00:29<dpkg>well, gnome is a Desktop Environment, (a "DE", and so are KDE and XFCE) - see a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome, or ask me about <gnome status>
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00:30<lollmon>!install gnome
00:30<dpkg>To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>.
00:30<kop>lollmon : /msg dpkg to talk to the bot
00:31<Bushmills>i'm tunneling automounting nfs of remote server through openvpn. very comfortable way to have remote machine on demand mounted.
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00:32<kop>Bushmills : The other thing you have to look at in small boxes is heat dissapation. You're not going to be able to pack anything in styrofoam and keep it from overheating, so a certain amout of physical space is necessary anyhow.
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00:33<Bushmills>kop, a reason why i liked the 4..6 watt power dissipation under load
00:33<lollmon>does openvpn allow you to view what is happening on the remote screen or just to control it as though you it were in front of you?
00:33<Bushmills>lollmon: neither
00:33<acidslep>gar! dillo insists that audio/mpeg is unhandled
00:34<kop>lollmon : opepnvpn lets you onto a remote lan. What you do after that is up to you.
00:34<acidslep>even though it is in mailcap and others!
00:34<kop>lollmon : You want vnc.
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00:34<Bushmills>!tell lollmon -about openvpn
00:35<kevin>Hey guys. Could anyone tell me why trying to "apt-get remove --purge cheese ekiga" wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment package and by extension everything that it installed? I thought it was just a dummy package.
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00:37<Bushmills>kevin: gnome-desktop-environment is a meta package. it depends, among other, on cheese and ekiga
00:37<Bushmills>(depending on other packages is the primary function of a meta package)
00:37<acidslep>so maybe you installed gnome-desktop-enviroment via cheese
00:37<acidslep>installing cheese, that is
00:37<kevin>Bushmills: So, would an "aptitude keep-all" fix this?
00:38<kevin>acidslep: I installed gnome-desktop-environment, which pulled in cheese.
00:38<Bushmills>uninstalling cheese or ekiga will have to uninstall gnome-desktop-environment to not break leave these dependencies dangling
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00:39<kop>kevin : There's a way to un-auto a package. Then it won't automatically un-install.
00:39<kevin>kop: Yes?
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00:40<kop>kevin : Well, man aptitude says there's an "unmarkauto" action.
00:40<Bushmills>kevin: seems to me that you can safely remove both. causing gnome-desktop-environment, the meta package, to be removed too. but - you want to explicitely install all the dependecies then, so that your package manager knows that you actually want them
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00:41<Bushmills>kevin: apt-cache depends gnome-desktop-environment|grep Depends
00:42<Bushmills>that is what installing gnome-desktop-environment actually pulls in
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00:43<acidslep>lynx works mime! super neato
00:43<acidslep>damn, it downloaded the entire file..
00:43<kevin>Bushmills: What I was hoping was that gnome-desktop-environment was just a dummy package, only to reference the packages.
00:44<kevin>Not something that had to exist in order for the packages I want to stay put.
00:44<Bushmills>yes. only it is not called "dummy package" but "meta package"
00:44<kop>kevin: So, unauto the packages you want to stay put.
00:44<Bushmills>look. A requires B ... uninstall B, then A will have to be removed
00:45<Jasa>Hmm ... does Gentoo have graphical installer that supports software raid ? =9
00:45<Jasa>Bit bored to Ubuntu.
00:45<Bushmills>meta package is A, requiring some or many B
00:45<kop>Jasa: Gentoo is off topic. This is a debian channel.
00:46<Bushmills>Jasa: try #suse
00:46<Jasa>Grrr, yeah go go Ubuntu i'll go other channel. =p
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00:46<kevin>Bushmills: I understand the idea behind it, only that the implementation irks me.
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00:47<Bushmills>kevin: file a bug report
00:47<acidslep>ok i need some mime magic, is there a % code for the URL of the resource?
00:47<kevin>Bushmills: Righto.
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00:51<acidslep>mailcap is made for mail.. there are no url's :(
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00:58<acidslep>Bushmills, um, what was that thing you told me about earlier that could react to new files and such?
00:58<Bushmills>acidslep: incron? dnotify?
00:59<Bushmills>that's a kernel mechanism. incron harnesses it into user spac
00:59<acidslep>there is also dnotify command i see
01:00<Bushmills>alternatives exist. also iwatch and .. several more
01:00<kop>Bushmills : Any recommendations as to which?
01:00<acidslep>dnotify is only one in repos it seems?
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01:01<Bushmills>kop, i find incron fairly flexible. translates the concept of cron to file/dir events.
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01:02<acidslep>dnotify i think is just working example interace to kernel API right?
01:02<Bushmills>can also execute scripts, and you can extend the list of actions per directory/file watched easily
01:03<acidslep>not in deb repo :(
01:03<Bushmills>starting with lenny, i think
01:04<kop>acidslep : It's available at for etch.
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01:06<Bushmills>one can find many uses for it. for example, posting jabber messages for misc events, automatically updating web albums when a picture is copied into the album directory hierarchy, etc
01:06<acidslep>ok so my idea is, use incron to watch media dir and activate a script that makes a little file with apropiate URL for fyle, those metafiles are put in webdir. when one is downloaded i make a mime type it, where is is processed by a script that invokes mplayer accordingly.
01:07<acidslep>good idea? can it be simpler?
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01:09<Bushmills>well.. why not symlink files from web dir to media dir?
01:10<acidslep>thttpd wont let me.
01:10<acidslep>i think there was another reason
01:10<acidslep>that was my first thought :)
01:11<acidslep>but still with symlink, i wont have the ease of use im looking for
01:11<acidslep>like right now, im listening to music really easily just by picking the song in lynx, it downloads it real quick and plays on other machine.
01:12<acidslep>so do you think that idea is the best solution? with the meta files
01:12<Bushmills>can't tell, i don't know all about your setup (and actually don't want to know all about it)
01:12<acidslep>heh ok
01:13<acidslep>no moar halps D:
01:13<Bushmills>such as the requirement to play selected files on different machine
01:13<Bushmills>yes, in the sense that you don't want to give it up
01:14<acidslep>I do not understand
01:15<Bushmills>not knowing about such fine print makes it sort of difficult to determine whether the scheme you intend to employ is best or not
01:15<acidslep>like i have a mediaserver and a interface node, so i stream media to interface?
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01:15<acidslep>but if nfs was good enough i could just use that.
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01:18<acidslep>is it good enough for heavy usage like media streaming?
01:18<Bushmills>for playing video and audio over net? yes. besides it is not the only network file system
01:18<Bushmills>what nfs is not great with is when remote machine goes down
01:19<Bushmills>coda might be better in such environments
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01:20<Bushmills>then there is AFS but i can't tell you much about this one.
01:20<Bushmills>and of course CIFS/SMB which i would avoid, and use nfs instead of
01:21<Bushmills>and a number of hackish ways to mount remote systems. sshfs, shfs, ftpfs etc
01:22<acidslep>was looking at sshfs but the latency scared me
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01:24<acidslep>coda cant stream btw
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01:36<acidslep>thanks for all the help Bushmills. :)
01:36<acidslep>good night everyone.
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01:38<mossmoss>would etchnhalf be the "vanilla" release of 2.6.24?
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02:09<favor>hi, can I change the install directory using apt-get
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02:13<petern>you can't
02:14<petern>you can install packages to a chroot environment with dpkg's --root parameter
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02:19<favor>maybe i can't. but now my /usr directory will be full in serial weeks. what's should i do? I mean to enlarge my /usr partition form other partitions ?
02:20<somae7>We're having a problem connecting to our isp's mail server with mutt - I've been told we probably need to use cyrus-sasl - is it possible to get just the cyrus sasl package or will I need to get the whole cyrus mail system?
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02:23<gsimmons>somae7: Install the 'libsasl2-modules' package, then try again.
02:23<somae7>ok - thanks
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02:28<Alba>is someone alive here?
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02:40<somae7>gsimmons: that solved the problem - thanks
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03:17<bartm>I keep getting "The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)" when using wvdial for "Mobistar Internet Everywhere", how to solve this ?
03:17<bartm>has someone successfully setup "Mobistar Internet Everywhere" on debian ?
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03:20<bartm>ID 12d1:1003
03:20<bartm>it's a Huawei E220, seems detected OK
03:22<bartm>cahoot: thanks for the link, and I already had read that, but still "hung up" problem
03:22<bartm>i could use some debugging advice, to at least know where the problem is
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03:25<bartm>cahoot: out of ideas ?
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03:26<cahoot>this is also old news then?
03:27<bartm>I hadn't seen that page yet... let me have a look/read now...
03:29<bartm>cahoot: you're right about "old news", because this page does not provide additional info, so same problem "hung up"
03:30<bartm>cahoot: I'm reading that now... thanks for your patience so far! :)
03:30<cahoot>seems people use slightly different AT commands
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03:31<cahoot>(and phone #)
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03:36<bartm>cahoot: still same problem, and yes, I've customized Phone, Username and Password for "Mobistar Internet Everywhere" as follows:
03:36<bartm>Phone = *99***1#
03:36<bartm>Username = mobistar
03:36<bartm>Password = mobistar
03:36<bartm>and also this:
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03:36<bartm>Init5 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP",""
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04:00<drakeman>Good night people, hello somebody can help me plesaeee! i have problem with ati driver it seems like it loads the fgrlx but i still cannot run compiz effects, and cannot modprobe fgrlx and if i put modprobe -r radeon got nothing too, i have an ati radeon x700
04:01<drakeman>can anyone have any idea with this pleasee_
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04:03<drakeman>anyone? please?
04:04<cahoot>if anyone knowing what to do was awake you'd get a response
04:04<drakeman>and you dont know? :D
04:05<cahoot>wouldn't touch compiz
04:05<drakeman>but ok im not loading the fglrx
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04:06<cahoot>drakeman: I have a lenovo T61 sporting an inte grahic card - so my demands are modest
04:06<U-boot92>why don't you try the new radeonhd driver
04:06<U-boot92>oh he has left
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04:12<drakeman>anyone awake?
04:12<U-boot92>but it's morning here
04:13<U-boot92>in europe
04:13<drakeman>can help me anyone with fgrlx
04:13<drakeman>something related with fglrx
04:13<U-boot92>you say you are using etch
04:14<drakeman>i have an ati radeon x700
04:14<drakeman>i already follow like 10 guides
04:14<U-boot92>so you should have radeonhd driver
04:14<drakeman>and nothing
04:14<drakeman>i downloaded the driver from ati websites
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04:14<drakeman>a file
04:15<U-boot92>I believe that package was broken
04:15<drakeman>no the package was fine
04:16<drakeman>thats the name of the package
04:16<U-boot92>have you set fglrx to load in etc/X11/xorg.conf?
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04:18<drakeman>but in one tutorial it say in the last step that i have to run
04:18<drakeman>sudo modprobe -r radeon
04:18<drakeman>and it have to show certain info
04:18<drakeman>but i get nothing
04:18<drakeman>and if i run sudo modprobe fglrx
04:19<drakeman>i got nothing too
04:20<drakeman>i if i run fglrxinfo
04:20<drakeman>i got info like
04:20<drakeman>version, ati radeon x700 etc.
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04:21<drakeman>but my compiz still doesnt have any effects,
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04:21<drakeman>thats my way to know if i have the driver installled correclty
04:21<U-boot92>well do you have any kind of 3d accelleration
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04:22<U-boot92>can you for instance watch movies
04:23<drakeman>like divx?
04:23<U-boot92>it doesn't matter if it is divX or just .ogm .mkv
04:23<U-boot92>or .avi
04:23<U-boot92>if you can
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04:23<drakeman>yes i can
04:23<U-boot92>then you have 3d
04:24<U-boot92>so.. you have installed the driver
04:24<drakeman>i can run glxgears
04:24<drakeman>but with ubuntu i can run compiz without problems
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04:25<U-boot92>what is your version of compiz
04:25<drakeman>and i can set the transparency in terminal but it shows the wallpapers in backgrond, and it have to show the current window backgorund
04:26<drakeman>how i know that?
04:27<drakeman>i installed it from repositories
04:27<U-boot92>aptitude show compiz
04:27<U-boot92>shoud do
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04:32<U-boot92>there is a thead
04:32<U-boot92>it seems that fglrx does not support some compiz effects
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04:33<drakeman>but with buntu i can
04:33<drakeman>same computer
04:33<drakeman>i cannot run any effect
04:34<drakeman>not just some
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04:34<U-boot92>I suppose you should fire a bug report
04:34<drakeman>look at this
04:34<drakeman>in that terminal window
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04:34<drakeman>look at the background, it showing me the wallpaper
04:35<drakeman>not the current window background
04:36<U-boot92>this should be a bug
04:36<petern>it'll do that when compiz is not running
04:37<drakeman>but my compiz is running i guess
04:37<drakeman>but any effect work
04:37<petern>ah, you turned the shadows off?
04:38<petern>well you usually get a ton of shadows added with compiz
04:38<petern>unless you turn them off manually
04:38<petern>so i say compiz is not running
04:38<drakeman>but my compiz is not working
04:38<drakeman>but is because
04:38<drakeman>the driver ati i think
04:38<drakeman>mmm any command to run compiz?
04:39<U-boot92>why not invoke with a shell
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04:41<drakeman>the ccsm window
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04:43<drakeman>but any of that is working
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04:44<U-boot92>um.. have you chosen to rum these effects
04:44<U-boot92>I mean
04:44<U-boot92>right-ckick desktop
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04:45<U-boot92>there should be something like this
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04:46<drakeman>i dont have that window
04:47<drakeman>how i get that window?
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04:51<U-boot92>I think you should read
04:52<U-boot92>have you done this?
04:52<drakeman>but this xorg is not the one provided by the ati drivers
04:53<drakeman>this is the one provided by default with debian , mesa drivers iguess
04:53<drakeman>and my gneric driver is awful, don have any optin in xorg
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04:55<drakeman>well, is 5 am
04:55<drakeman>in my country
04:55<U-boot92>to make sure compiz is activated at boot-up
04:55<drakeman>im trying with this since 12
04:55<drakeman>5 hours and nothing, well im newbie not an expert
04:55<drakeman>trying to learn
04:56<U-boot92>have you added compiz in gnome-sessions
04:56<U-boot92>I am not an expert either
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04:57<drakeman>but ill go to sleep i need rest, thanks U-boo,t
04:57<drakeman>im going to try again tomorrow
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05:32<oskie>wrong window...grr.
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05:43<EiZ>hi, I'm looking for someone using vmware6.5 on amd64 for a test of latest etch amd64 CD
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05:51<honkanev>Hello everybody!
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05:52<honkanev>My laptop doesn't support USB boot and my optical drive is totally wasted.
05:53<honkanev>Is it possible to create network install server onto my winXP pc and use network boot?
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05:58<Honksu>Is it possible to create network install server onto winXP machine and use network boot?
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06:00<aptituz>Honksu: you need a tftp server, a dhcp server and an ftp or http server for network boot and install
06:00<aptituz>Honksu: if you find software for windows that does this, you can use windows as an install server, yes
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06:03<Honksu>aptituz: I am not sure about tftp server.
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06:05<Honksu>aptituz: It can be handeled too.
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06:29<lp59191>Je suis sous ubuntu je voudrais passé a debian en faisant une netinstall pas clé usb
06:29<lp59191>dns le wik je tourne en rond
06:29<lp59191>dans* wiki*
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06:32<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on
06:32<weasel>ah. it left already
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06:48<U-boot92>I have a question concerning the next stable release-
06:48<U-boot92>debian Lenny
06:49<jackyf>ask it
06:49<U-boot92>some developers say it will be released in june 2009
06:49<U-boot92>others say till the end of this year
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06:50<cahoot>U-boot92: try /msg dpkg wwlr
06:51<dpkg>Lenny (5.0) will release WIR, SIYH and RSN. It will not be released until while there are release critical bugs: and see "Number concerning the next release". It might release before the end of 2008, but then again, it might not. Ask me about <wir> <siyh> <rsn> <lenny status> <lenny pool> and see
06:52<cahoot>jackyf: don't like the /msg part?
06:53<jackyf>cahoot: m?
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06:53<cahoot>scroll up
06:54<jackyf>cahoot: I see, I don't understand your question to me
06:55<cahoot>jackyf: try /msg dpkg selftell
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07:21<alys>Please, does anyone know a reliable site where I can download libdecss2 for etch? I tried 'aptitude install...' and there was nothing available. Thank you.
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07:40<alan>How i do remove a user from a group
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07:43<alan>How do you remove a user from a group
07:44<avu>deluser user group
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07:45<alan>ok avu
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07:46<alan>i go test
07:46<apostle>Will etch be updated or have bug fixed at all?......or is freeze exactly what it means.....there will be no more work done on it.
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07:48<weasel>etch is long released
07:49<weasel>you can get serious bugs fixed, if they are really really bad and easy to fix, with the next point release.
07:49<alan>avu and midlis, thanks.
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07:52<Shadowdancer>for some reason, my virtual consoles are broken, and I can't figure out why. Custom kernel (, on Debian testing/unstable. I guess I'm forgetting some kernel option, but can't figure out which one. Any ideas?
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07:55<petern>broken how?
07:57<cahoot>the immediate idea is: use a real kernel
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07:58<Shadowdancer>petern: no login prompt
07:58<Shadowdancer>cahoot: no time to switch to BSD
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08:00<cahoot>grep -i pty /boot/config-$(uname -r)
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08:01<petern>mine is broken too
08:02<petern>but that was on ubuntu
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08:06<Shadowdancer>I appear to have a /etc/inittab, which doesn't seem to be used anymore
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08:08<Shadowdancer>I'll try disabling the legacy PTYs and see what happens.
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08:09<sveri>hi, somebody here who can help me with iptables?
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08:10<sveri>i am trying to route the http and https port thorugh my linuxserver to a lan machine
08:11<sveri>but i cannot get it working
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08:14<Shadowdancer>sveri: lookup the DNAT target
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08:15<sveri>Shadowdancer, i got these three commands, maybe you could have a look at it plz:
08:16<Shadowdancer>another issue I have is that I updated to grub from lilo (yes, the installation is that old), and now when I install new kernels, it won't update the bootloader.
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08:17<Shadowdancer>sveri: I use something like the first line without the -i, and it seems to work fine
08:17<sveri>Shadowdancer, maybe you could paste the exact code?
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08:18<Shadowdancer>-A PREROUTING -p udp -m udp --dport 2056 -j DNAT --to-destination
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08:19<sveri>Shadowdancer, thx, i'll try that
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08:20<Shadowdancer>and I'll be trying a new kernel
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08:49<waylandbill>sorry if this has been asked zillions of times. Is there an official repository that contains flashplugin for iceweasel?
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08:50<dpkg>i heard flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. Also see
08:51<Gekz_>waylandbill: afaik, it's called flashplugin-nonfree
08:51<Gekz_>and it's in the non-free reop
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08:51<apostle>I install the abs-guide....where did it go??
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08:53<gsimmons>apostle: dpkg -L abs-guide
08:53<apostle>gsimmons, thanks
08:53<waylandbill>Gekz_: thank you. checking out the wiki.
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08:54<apostle>gsimmons, do I open it?
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08:56<gsimmons>apostle: sensible-browser /usr/share/doc/abs-guide/html/index.html
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08:57<apostle>gsimmons, super thanks gsimmons got it
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09:15<Guest438>hello :D i am having troubles with my wireless.. i can connect as long as its not enrypted but when it is there is no human way, so i assume it's the wpa supplicant... what i dunno is how to check or fix that
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09:25<integer>hi folks
09:26<integer>I ws wondering, could I install windows XP on a partition from lenny using a virtual machine?
09:26<integer>and , like , add it in GRUB manually afterwards
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09:27<Valtiel>i have a 3 hdd
09:27<Bushmills>integer: there should be problems: windows seems to customize during installation for the host it runs under - and a VM pretends to be different hardware than the physical hardware
09:27<Valtiel>and partitions
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09:27<Valtiel>how can i list information about them
09:28<integer>tnx Bushmills
09:28<Valtiel>ntfs and ext3
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09:28<integer>haven't thpught about that indeed
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09:29<erKURITA>Valtiel fdisk -l
09:29<erKURITA>as root
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09:44<enouf>try 'blkid' too
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09:50<metalqga>(for those interested) the raid works perfectly took me 30mins to set it up
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10:09<Anonissimus>I have the auto updater freezing up, any suggestions?
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10:10<dr|z3d>Anonissimus: Does apt-get update work for you?
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10:11<daemon>Hey all I need to use an old printer (lpt)
10:12<daemon>obviously no port on my new machines... can I get a usb to paralel converter
10:12<daemon>does linux support them>?
10:12<dr|z3d>Anonissimus: If answer = no, then delete the files in /var/apt/cache .. just the files, not the directory.
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10:14<Anonissimus>hmm ok
10:14<Anonissimus>will give it a try
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10:15<ubuntu_>how i can go to #ubuntu-es
10:15<Anonissimus>dr|z3d: works
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10:15<MPS_>why are there kde 3.5.9 and 3.5.10 packages in the sid repo?
10:16<Anonissimus>oh wait: returns: couldnot lock
10:16<U-boot92>daemon: linux supports them
10:16<U-boot92>at least ps/2 to usb works perfectly
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10:17<daemon>U-boot92, yeah but usb to paralell
10:17<daemon>I dont even know if the adapter exists
10:17<daemon>even though I iamgine it does
10:17<daemon>was hoping for someone who had one to say 'yes' they work
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10:17<U-boot92>those do exist
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10:19<Valtiel>how to install qtim
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10:21<Anonissimus>erm how to disable the auto updater
10:21<Anonissimus>I can't run apt-get as it keeps /var/lib/dpkg/lock locked
10:22<U-boot92>I suppose killall /*nasty_process*/ will do
10:23<adb>Anonissimus: rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
10:23<adb>as root
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10:24<celling>Anonissimus,other program running that locked /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
10:24<Anonissimus>yeah I know some othr program was using it
10:25<Anonissimus>the rm worked
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10:25<Anonissimus>now I still have this load of packages that's being held back
10:25<Anonissimus>it's an older computer runnign here and I recently did a dist upgrade to lenny
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10:27<metalqga>try aptitude upgrade
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10:49<sirderigo>buenos dias a todos, me pregunto, hay alguien que sepa php????
10:49<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
10:50<metalqga>Anonissimus, any progress?
10:50<sirderigo>sorry, good morning everybody, i want to know if someone program in php
10:51<dr|z3d>sirderigo: Try #php on freenode
10:51<sirderigo>OMG thanks
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10:53<Alba>hi could someone take a look at this and tell me why it doesnt mount?
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10:54<Anonissimus>metalqga: well aptitude full-upgrade needed 238MB
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10:59<Alba>ok forget the fstab Q
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11:02<Anonissimus>metalqga: installing all packages now
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11:02<Libertcharrua>hola como estan
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11:04<henkie32>hey guys, i'm having problems installing postfix on debian etch.. i ran apt-get install postfix and choose "internet" .. but now i can not telnet to my machine on port 25..
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11:05<hjb>henkie32 can you telnet locally?
11:05<henkie32>i can not telnet to localhost, or from some other machine
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11:05<gsimmons>Alba: Are you still experiencing your issue with wpa_supplicant?
11:06<Alba>gsimmons, i formatted straight away because i have been going round and round in circles all week and havent been able to find a solution
11:06<Alba>now i have to install the wireless stuff once again
11:06<hjb>henkie32 is postfix up and running?
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11:07<hjb>hmm ^^
11:07<Alba>now the issue is the whole wireless gsimmons
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11:10<henkie32>sorry, my internet was gone, i believe postfix is started hjb
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11:11<gsimmons>Alba: If you suspect WPA - and you know that your driver supports it - start wpa_cli from another shell (eg. wpa_cli -i wlan0), raise your wireless interface (eg. ifup --verbose wlan0), then execute "level 0" within wpa_cli once it has connected to wpa_supplicant. This should provide you with some insight regarding connection/association and authentication.
11:12<Alba>i see gsimmons i got desperated and formatted the whole thing... now there was a command to scan for wireless networks.. could you tell me which one was?
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11:12<pbe>My terminal or system in general cannot show the characters åäö or ÅÄÖ, how do I fix this?
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11:13<gsimmons>Alba: Install the 'wireless-tools' package and "man iwlist". You're interested in the first parameter described.
11:13<cahoot>pbe: dpkg-reconfigure locales
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11:14<hjb>henkie32 have you checked with ps? are there some messages in /var/log/mail/* or /var/log/postfix?
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11:15<pbe>cahoot: thanks, i'll see if it works.
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11:33<jordanb>Where does the xorg-server package come from?
11:33<jordanb>I mean xserver-xorg
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11:38<icyo>i've got a problem with sata controller
11:38<icyo>I think udev give them random order, because a drive who was sdd1 is now sda1 after a reboot
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11:39<icyo>and sda1 sdb1 / sda2 sdb2 was md0 and md1 device before
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11:39<icyo>how can i fix this?
11:40<icyo>(ho and sdc1 switch to sdd1)
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11:42<blarson>icyo: You can mount by uuid
11:42<dpkg>uuid is probably a universally unique identifier used to label disk partitions, among other things. To see the currently-known partition UUIDs, do ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid. To mount or boot by uuid, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name.
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11:42<hjb>icyo i think that shouldn't happen due to /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
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11:43<icyo>thx i'll look into this
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11:44<hjb>icyo something specific on your something seems to make that fail, though
11:44<blarson>You can also mount by disk label
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11:45<icyo>but the fstab is quite clear, is it the label who change
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11:46<jordanb>I've built the xorg-server source package, and installed xserver-xorg-core, but I can't install xserver-common because it depends on xserver-xorg. But I have no idea where that package is supposed to come from. It's not from the xorg-server package.
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11:58<mossmoss>anyone running etchnhalf and playing 3d games with an nvidia card?
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11:58<mossmoss>...using the "nvidia" driver as opposed to the "nv" driver?
11:58<U-boot92>jordanb: aptitude show xserver-xorg
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11:59<icyo>Thanks you guys, it worked!
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12:01<jordanb>U-boot92; That doesn't tell me where it comes from.
12:02<jordanb>I want to know what package I need to build to create it.
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12:02<mossmoss>is bum a gnome application
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12:05<U-boot92>mossmoss; BUM appears to be a gnome app - it requires gtk+ libs
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12:08<Skyforger>mossmoss, i'm using the nvidia driver
12:08<Skyforger>and i've just exited w3
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12:13<epitaph>I don't suppose we have anyone with XDMCP wisdom about do we? ;) I have a remote X on "lucretia" (ubuntu 6.06) connecting to XDM on "blacktreasurer" (debian "etch") - it connects, I get the login box, but the X server (mga) keeps re-sending XDMCP requests (as seen using tcpdump). Eventually the X server "declares the session dead" after a few minutes of "too many retransmissions" - even though XDM is managing the session, and I can log in
12:14<epitaph>of course in decalring the session dead, it logs me right back out again ;)
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12:21<philsf>I'm trying to correct my cipher list for courier-imapd-ssl, can anyone please give advice? I have an old MUA (PalmOS) that doesn't work with the default cipher list that ships with lenny: "SSLv3:TLSv1:!SSLv2:HIGH:!LOW:!MEDIUM:!EXP:!NULL@STRENGTH", but it works with the one that shipped with sarge: "ALL:!ADH:RC4+RSA:+SSLv2:@STRENGTH". The error in mail.log says: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher. How can I tune lenny's list s
12:21<philsf>o that this MUA work?
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12:24<philsf>openssl, anybody?
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12:24<abrotman>philsf: and which ones can the palm use?
12:25<philsf>abrotman: not sure, I assume ssl2
12:25<philsf>the UI is very poor
12:25<abrotman>better not waste your time .. don't assume
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12:26<epitaph>try removing the !LOW and !MEDIUM - in case it can't handle the "HIGH" ones
12:26<epitaph>might work, might not ;)
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12:27<epitaph>in fact, remove all of the HIGH:!MEDIUM:!LOW: see if it can find one somewhere
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12:28<epitaph>be aware that your "security level" will be lower, however if it's the only way to get it to work... ;)
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12:32<philsf>epitaph, would it be ok, syntax-wise if I try HIGH:MEDIUM:!LOW, and then H:M:LOW if it still doesn't work with medium?
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12:32<epitaph>at least I think so
12:33<philsf>abrotman: I can't find the specs of the mua, the link in the official page is 404
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12:33<epitaph>I'll admit to not being a total expert, just it's worht a shot
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12:36<philsf>epitaph: it worked with MEDIUM:!LOW - thanks very much!
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12:37<epitaph>no worries
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12:41<icyo>how can i see the mac adress of bonded interfaces without destroying the bond interface?
12:41<oxmoz>hello, I once saw a command showing all ACPI requests with their associated script being executed, but I can't remember that command and I don't find anything on the web, could someone help me please?
12:41<Sinterklaas>bonded interfaces?
12:42<Sinterklaas>oxmoz: acpid in debug mode, probably?
12:43<oxmoz>Sinterklaas: thanks, will try
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12:43<icyo>yes ethernet interface agreegated together to make a virtual faster interface
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12:44<Sinterklaas>oh don't know abou tthat
12:44<Sinterklaas>doesn't ifconfig show it/
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12:45<icyo>not it show hte virtual mac adress of the bond interface
12:45<icyo>even on the ethn entry
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12:45<icyo>is'nt a way to go in the hardware device id or stat?
12:46<Sinterklaas>what about /sys/class/net/eth0/address?
12:47<icyo>nop samething
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12:47<oxmoz>Sinterklaas: I would like to see what script is executed when I plug/unplug the AC power of my laptop, but in fact acpid -d does not show that information, do you have any idea please?
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12:47<icyo>the bond make some mac spoofing on the slave interface
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13:08<Valtiel>who run heroes3 native ?
13:08<Valtiel>why windowed screen mode
13:08<Valtiel>i use -f
13:08<Valtiel>and windowed
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13:09<n8r0x> does flash video and all streaming media requests use port 80?
13:10<dr|z3d>n8r0x: No.
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13:11<dr|z3d>n8r0x: Flash video is usually delivered over http. Other streaming protcols use different ports.
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13:13<Roland->I need some help to integrate another kernel
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13:13<Roland->into install cd
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13:13<U-boot92>I remember there was a way to view flash content on websites without flash plugin
13:14<U-boot92>with mplayer plugin
13:14<U-boot92>can anyone remember
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13:16<abrotman>!tell Roland- about custom netinst
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13:17<yessine>salut tt le monde
13:18<jt_>can naughty get notifications from pidgin/finch?
13:18<jt_>wrong channel
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13:20<U-boot92>abrotman; I am aware of swfdec and gnash (via backports)
13:21<U-boot92>I am speaking about mplayer mozilla plugin
13:22<abrotman>i doubt that could play flash
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13:24<s_i_m>mplayer can certainly play flv files, not sure about streams though
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13:28<Roland->also can I remove firefox iceweasel branding?
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13:29<dr|z3d>Roland-: Sure. Install the official Mozilla Firefox.
13:29<abrotman>Roland-: why would you?
13:29<Roland->by source?
13:29<dr|z3d>Roland-: Should be some compiled binaries available. apt-get install firefox
13:29<abrotman>that will install iceweasel
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13:30<dr|z3d>Oh? I guess one needs another repository then.
13:30<abrotman>Roland-: why would you want to remove the iceweasel branding?
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13:32<Roland->I don't like it's name
13:32<Roland->sounds like pokemon
13:32<ehnvis>and firefox doesnt?
13:32<s_i_m>U-boot92, look for some scripts here
13:32<Roland->firefox doesn't :P
13:33<Roland->when was lenny relleased ?
13:33<Roland->1st beta I mean
13:33<abrotman>that's just silly
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13:40<U-boot92>s_i_m; that siuts me fine
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14:08<Sebby>how do i fix an broken apt-get (i used apt-get but i think something gone wrong and to fix )
14:08<epitaph>well, need more details, but first thing to try is apt-get update
14:09<dvs>epitaph: aptitude update!!!
14:10<epitaph>that'll update the info about current packages and hence will fix any problem where the upstream packages have changes
14:10<epitaph>dvs, either. But Sabby seems to be using apt-get
14:11<Sebby>it seems it worked
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14:11<epitaph>cool. You'll have to run apt-get (or aptitude) update every now and again
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14:12<dvs>epitaph: Just choose one or the other all the time (apt-get or aptitude)
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14:12<Sebby>but i have sendmail and i uninstalled and installed back (i had a problem) the problem is that before i reinstalled sendmail i deleted some filles and now i need those files
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14:12<Sebby>is there a command to detect all the missing filles and install them?
14:12<epitaph>dvs. mmm-hmm, but Sabby was running apt-get hence.... but they're both just interfaces onto apt
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14:13<dvs>epitaph: but they have different databases that track pacakges.
14:13<abrotman>!tell Sebby about confmiss
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15:00<simonrvn>ravenbird: test2
15:00<ravenbird_>No I'm not online anymore
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15:02<blood-boyz>Il n'y a pas de serveur français ?
15:02<blood-boyz>... ^^
15:03<epitaph>sorry, I barely speak French, I was guessing at the meaning a little, I suppose I got it wrong ;)
15:03<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on
15:04<epitaph>there we go ;)
15:04<blood-boyz>Merci ! =)
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15:07<DanC82>Help needed, anyone there?
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15:10<Sebby>manny pple in here
15:11<Sebby>so ask your question
15:12<DanC82>got a command from textbook that wont run properly on my machine (follows)
15:12<AzaTht>which is the fastet way to crop and image, especially an JPEG, using least number of CPU cycles?
15:12<cahoot>convert I'd guess
15:13<AzaTht>I found epeg which is really fast thumbnailing, but I want to crop fast as well
15:13<AzaTht>convert is a bit slow imo to crop
15:13<AzaTht>unless there is an über setting to speed it up
15:13<DanC82>"ls -li 'which man' 'which whatis'" - Should output the file info for the results of the two which statements but wont on my machine.
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15:13<AzaTht>cahoot: never heard about, gonna look into it
15:14<m0n0>why does cat /proc/ioports outputs smaller memory addresses than /proc/iomem ? After all i know, the io ports are memory mapped pins at the processor, or is that a false believe?
15:14<DanC82>Could be a System V only command but what needs to be done to get it working in Bash?
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15:15<petemc>DanC82: ls -li `which man` `which whatis`
15:16<petemc>you need to use backticks or $() to expand the which commands
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15:17<DanC82>Thanks for that. Working now.
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15:18<DanC82>Now my other Perl script works as well.... cheers
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15:27<AzaTht>0.672s for thumbnailing and crop, perhaps that's best I can do
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15:27<AzaTht>using: epeg -w 200 -h 400 -m 400 image.jpg tmp.jpg; jpegtran -crop 200x200+0+0 -outfile thumb.jpg tmp.jpg
15:28<ooddtod>in your opinion what are the top 5 linux commands to learn for an admin?
15:28<AzaTht>cp ls mv su rm
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15:29<AzaTht>heck, it's difficult to say
15:29<AzaTht>depends what kind of "admin" you refer to
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15:29<AzaTht>for some admins, dd is top 5 command
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15:29<epitaph>man. man is real important ;)
15:30<AzaTht>for some, vi is top 3 ツ
15:30<DanC82>or emacs
15:30<AzaTht>epitaph: yea
15:30<epitaph>was gonna say
15:30<AzaTht>DanC82: waited for that one ツ
15:30<DanC82>how about "just get a decent password"
15:31<DanC82>spoke to someone the other day, it turned out that their password was their name in reverse???
15:31<AzaTht>ooddtod: top 1 command is "ls /bin /sbin"
15:32<ooddtod>AzaTht; I'm just looking for commands to learn. just asking other people in the field to learn
15:32<AzaTht>ooddtod: but in the end, there is no "top commands"
15:32<epitaph>I think getting just 5 commands is kinda tough...
15:33<AzaTht>epitaph: though, he says "commands"
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15:33<ooddtod>yeah i understand that just trying to see what people think are need to know commands
15:33<AzaTht>lets see, what is an "command" in this essence...
15:34<epitaph>ooddtod, fair enough, it's just not an easy question ;)
15:34<AzaTht>ooddtod: it all depends on what you are going to do
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15:35<AzaTht>think there is an guide there
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15:35<epitaph>I'd suggest learning the basic "user level" commands - ls, vi, rm, mv, all o' that stuff would be a start
15:35<dpkg>Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference)
15:35<epitaph>if you already know that of course, that's where it diverges
15:36<AzaTht>ooddtod: ↑
15:36<epitaph>I mean, depending on context, mdadm may be vital or irrelevant
15:36<AzaTht>!general cli tutorial
15:36<dpkg>methinks general cli tutorial is, or, or
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15:37<AzaTht>perhaps ass the tldp instance there
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15:38<Liininha>teeein algueem ae ?
15:38<epitaph>ooddtod, the SAG is always good:
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15:39<AzaTht>ugh /approx uh, wtf
15:40<epitaph>regarding the SAG or the odd .br person?
15:40<AzaTht>second one
15:40<epitaph>ah, OK ;)
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15:41<DanC82>Ive always found 'Unix Power Tools' from Oreilly a very good refernece.
15:42<abrotman>lovely book!
15:42<AzaTht>DanC82: have never read that one
15:42<DanC82>AzaTht: Can be read front to back or just dive in for the commands that you need.
15:43<AzaTht>an real nerd have one shelf dedicated for o'reilly
15:43<epitaph>never read it either, but I'm not big on dead tree ;)
15:43<DanC82>lol, they are my top one publisher
15:43<AzaTht>I should fix the llama book at least
15:44<AzaTht>it's a must
15:44<AzaTht>can't call yourself "nerd" without it
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15:45<AzaTht>Customers interested in this book were also interested in: 1: programming perl ツ
15:45<DanC82>I also enjoy books from Apress (
15:47<ooddtod>thanks guys i really dig the help
15:47<epitaph>no worries
15:47<AzaTht>see you in a yeart or so when you reach the über guru stage
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15:48<epitaph>heh, or pop back when you need more specific info
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15:49<epitaph>or whenever, just remember the old rule, help others as you were helped ;)
15:49<AzaTht>epitaph: is that applicable to vi(m)?
15:49<DanC82>got to go now, thanks for all the help. Dan
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15:50<epitaph>AzaTht, hm?
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15:55<somae7>I want to post to usenet using a slightly alterred email address (to prevent spam) but our isp (verizon) has discontinued carrying alt. groups - I thought to use mail2news gateways but don't know how to configure it so that our email is slightly changed -- I don't want to use anonymous remailers
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15:58<somae7>I am able to alter the email address with groups that they carry - but not with email
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16:01<epitaph>you may be able to subscribe to an external usenet company
16:02<somae7>yes - but I don't post real often and $10/month seems alot for just a few posts
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16:03<epitaph>well.. try another ISP? Basically if they don't offer the service and you're not willing to pay someone else to provide it, well, same as an offline service, you don't get the service
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16:06<somae7>I'm not sure what's possible with their service - (and they probably don't either) - I wonder why I'm able to alter the email address using their newsgroup server -but can't do it on their mail server
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16:07<epitaph>it very much depends on what newsreader you're using
16:08<kingsley>Can exim3 be configured to return emails when they're rejected by receiving hosts? If so, how?
16:08<somae7>I'm using icedove for both mail and news
16:08<epitaph>with most IMX you can change your email address, but it won't get you the alt groups if your ISP doesn't give them to you
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16:08<epitaph>OK, I've never used icedove for news, so sorry ;)
16:09<epitaph>last I used was trn ;)
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16:09<somae7>yes - that's why I wanted to use mail2news - but I need to change the email address
16:10<somae7>on the email server
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16:11<epitaph>I have no idea what you mean? if it's a mail/news gateway, logically you can't change the email address and still recive the mail?
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16:12<epitaph>kingsley, could you clarify the question?
16:13<somae7>I can't post to alt groups thru the news server so I want to use mail2news - but I've been unable to find an email client that is able to allow a changed email address
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16:13<kingsley>epitaph: Yes, I'm happy to.
16:13<epitaph>somae7, OK, so this translates news into email. But if you change the email. how can you receive the messages?
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16:14<epitaph>you need to use something else I suspect, perhaps a web based news server?
16:15<epitaph>albeit I don't know your full circumstances
16:15<somae7>epitaph: yes - thru newzbot there are news servers that allow reading but not posting
16:15<kingsley>epitaph: Can version 3 of the mail transport agent named "exim" be configured to bounce messages back to their senders when the messages are rejected by remote computers? If so, how? For example, can exim3 be configured to warn me when my email to santa.claus@north.pole is rejected by north.pole?
16:15<valdyn>kingsley: it does so by default?
16:15<Rockj>Hi, Ive come to the correct place if I should report/figure out if there is a bug in debian lenny wordpress package?
16:16<epitaph>kingsley, well, obviously it can since that's what the rfcs require
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16:16<epitaph>kingsley, a little less sarcasm and a little more detail on your problem?
16:17<valdyn>i think he just wants to undeliverable message you get already by default for undeliverable mail
16:17<valdyn>i think he just wants to get the undeliverable message you get already by default for undeliverable mail
16:17<valdyn>Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
16:18<valdyn>thats exim4, i doubt any mailer is significantly different
16:19<kingsley>It seems that my configuration of exim3 is not bouncing undeliverable emails back to local senders. If anyone here happens to know what to fix in exim3's configuration file, I'd appreciate advice.
16:19<epitaph>OK, is it spooling them?
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16:20<epitaph>in the spirit of your sparcasm, it is retaining them on the local system in the event of non-delivery so that it can retry later?
16:20<valdyn>kingsley: have you already tried this for local mail?
16:20<epitaph>heh, with less "p"
16:20<valdyn>kingsley: you certainly cant fix destination mtas
16:21<valdyn>( or mail at non-existing domains )
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16:22<JohnTitor>if you digg anything today.....
16:22<JohnTitor>digg this please
16:22<epitaph>valdyn, or indeed a smarthost unless you're the system administrator of the smarthost too, but I will give kingsley the respect he did not give me, and assume that is not tha case
16:22<JohnTitor>many Thanks
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16:22<kingsley>epitaph: At least some of the rejected emails are reported by the "mailq" command as "*** frozen ***".
16:23<valdyn>kingsley: thats good
16:23<epitaph>OK, that means it is indeed queued
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16:23<valdyn>kingsley: messages are supposed to be frozen on certain delivery issues
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16:23<epitaph>the system will retry it until the expiry time
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16:23<epitaph>let me check a moment and I'll see if I can find the right option
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16:24<valdyn>..also required for greylisting to work
16:24<epitaph>yep, but assuming simplest first
16:24<kingsley>epitaph: Thanks. I'm currently intrigued by the "errors_copy" variable in exim.conf.
16:24<valdyn>kingsley: send to a non-existing local user and see what happens
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16:26<kop>Is there some special debian way to enable ssl with apache2, generate keys, etc.? Or should I just make the links in /etc/apache2/... and do what comes naturally?
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16:27<epitaph>kingsley, you (probably) need the option timeout_frozen_after in your exim.conf
16:27<valdyn>kop: read the README
16:27<kop>kingsley : (No dbout it's too late now, but I much prefer postfix for tweakability, security, and all around painlessness.)
16:27<epitaph>kop. lol ;)
16:27<valdyn>kop: /usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/README.Debian.gz
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16:28<kop>valdyn : I read that. (Not gzed on my box, etch.) I don't see anything.
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16:29<valdyn>kop: what dont you see? the "Enabling ssl" part?
16:29<kop>valdyn : Nope. There's a 'using ssl with passwords' part....
16:30<kingsley>valdyn: As you suggested, I sent an email to a non-existing local user. /var/log/exim/mainlog reported the error. But, the problem is, exim didn't bounce the email back to the sender. I'm hoping to find a way to configure exim to bounce undeliverable emails back to local senders.
16:30<valdyn>kop: i thought "To enable SSL, type (as user root):" was what you needed
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16:30<valdyn>kop: but maybe the readme is different on your debian release than on mine
16:30<epitaph>kingsley, but is *that* message queued?
16:30<kop>valdyn : Your running Lenny, right?
16:30<valdyn>kop: yes
16:31<kop>valdyn : Somebody made the readme better. :-/
16:31<kop>valdyn : goodie. Thanks.
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16:31<kingsley>epitaph: Thanks for suggesting timeout_frozen_after. I'll consider it.
16:31<kop>valdyn : got it. Thanks.
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16:33<Golfgeo>Hi all
16:33<Golfgeo>Anyone know how I can burn a .daa DVD image on Debian?
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16:34<kingsley>epitaph: Yes, I think the message to the non-existing local user is frozen.
16:36<kingsley>epitaph: I also notice that exim's log file says an error message was sent to a remote email address that's supposed to forward email to me.
16:37<kop>valdyn : Would you please make /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl available?
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16:39<epitaph>kingsley, hmm
16:39<kop>valdyn : (on your site)
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16:41<epitaph>kingsley, what's your frozen timeout set to now? 7 days?
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16:42*kingsley notes that exim.conf has "freeze_tell_mailmaster = true"...
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16:43<kingsley>epitaph: I don't know. Do you happen to know how to tell what the frozen timeout is?
16:43<epitaph>nontheless it shouldn't freeze unless the message is undeliverable
16:44<epitaph>well, it's in exim.conf normally. I think it's 7 days
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16:47<epitaph>the way it behaves is roughly thus: if it gets a temporary unavailable, it'll retry a few times, then freeze. if it gets a permanent unavailiability, it'll return an error. But a system not responding at all is considered temporary - it may just be a network problem
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16:48<epitaph>assuming you have a reasonably default config
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16:49<kingsley>epitaph: Thank you for your time and attention. You've helped clarify my thinking. Since exim's log file says error messages are immediately sent to a certain email address that's supposed to forward email to me, I'm inclined to try to fix the immediate error messages.
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16:50<epitaph>kingsley, yeah, double check that the system - as the exim user - can send messages to the email address you require. Good luck!
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16:52<epitaph>kingsley, and np ;)
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17:02<pyro_tech>hey evryone
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17:14<HardwareWizard>anyone help with a lenny problem???
17:15<pyro_tech>wats up
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17:17<HardwareWizard>i have an asus p5q3 mb it has nvidia mcp55 nic's lenny can see both but can't seem to connect via dhcp, manual config etc.. any ideas??
17:18<dr|z3d>HardwareWizard: Anything if you type ifconfig to indicate the adapter's up, or at least recognised?
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17:19<HardwareWizard>it says its up and contains the ip i setup manually
17:20<HardwareWizard>can't ping any where except
17:20<dr|z3d>Make sure it's on the correct subnet.
17:20<HardwareWizard>i did that also and it is correct
17:21<HardwareWizard>if i install a separate nic that nis works with dhcp and manual setup
17:21<HardwareWizard>nis = nic
17:21<HardwareWizard>it does use the marvel phy
17:25<HardwareWizard>btw i'm using rc1 and dailly build from last week
17:25<HardwareWizard>same problem with both
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18:29<starnull>is there a way to detirmine which /dev/dsp* is associated with which audio device?
18:29<starnull>besides trial and error?
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18:42<D1abl0>i have a smp machine runing smp kernel but only one cpu is used
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18:57<starnull>error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
18:58<I_Died_Once>When's Debian 5.0 coming out ??????
18:58<awatkins>Um, apologies for what is a relatively ignorant question, but is there any guide to installing extra-repo .deb s? As in, why I shouldn't and if I'm going to how to make it less likely I'll screw something up. (Specifically, I'm trying to get a recent version of Transmission, a bittorrent client, installed. Latest in lenny is 1.22 and there are .deb packages for Ubuntu at 1.40 (which I'd at least try to make work or use as a starting poin
18:59<wuppie>apt-get install libstdc++5
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19:00<abrotman>awatkins: that's a very bad idea
19:00<awatkins>I knw.
19:00<starnull>ok. what do i do if i started an install with aptitude then killed the downloads and want aptitude to "forget" what i was doing?
19:00<awatkins>I'm trying to mitigate the badness.
19:00<awatkins>Unless it's so bad, I shouldn't.
19:01<starnull>does that make sense?
19:01<abrotman>!tell awatkins about ssb
19:01<abrotman>awatkins: if that works
19:02<abrotman>awatkins: in general .. unless there is a good reason, you really shouldn't be backporting stuff
19:03<awatkins>abrotman: I'm aware of this, and I'd be a lot more wary if this was something relatively critical, or a dependence for anything else, or indeed likely to require backports of any dependencies.
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19:03<awatkins>abrotman: (Thank you for you assistance, BTW.)
19:04<abrotman>it's jsut a bittorrent client!
19:04<awatkins>abrotman: Not in (Checked I think.)
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19:04<abrotman>there aren't backports for lenny yet
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19:05<awatkins>NOr is the latest version in sid.
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19:06<awatkins>Understandably, there have been significant improvments in the two .x releases. :/
19:06<awatkins>But you're right, it's only a bittorrent client.
19:06<awatkins>I was looking to understand the process and the exact nature of the badness as much as anything. :)
19:06<abrotman>the only nasty bug i've seen for transmission is RC .. so hopefully that will get fixed
19:07<abrotman>judd: versions transmission
19:07<judd>abrotman: transmission -- etch: 0.6.1.dfsg-1 lenny: 1.22-1 sid: 1.34-1
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19:08<awatkins>uupdate might be a more sensible approach?
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19:09<abrotman>if it works for that package
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19:09<awatkins>Might well do.
19:10<awatkins>Reality fails me again.
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19:10<awatkins>I don't have a toolchain etc. on the machine.
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19:10<abrotman>install one ?
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19:11<awatkins>It's a 180MHz Pentium MMX with 64MB of RAM.
19:11<awatkins>No, seriously.
19:11<abrotman>and you want to run transmission on it ?
19:11<awatkins>Transmission runs remarkably well.
19:12<abrotman>but why not a CLI bittorent client like rtorrent ?
19:12<awatkins>Even the Web interface, I admit I'm surprised to.
19:12<awatkins>Transmission is a CLI client?
19:12<awatkins>At least, as far as I'm concerned it is.
19:12<abrotman>i'm thinking of
19:12<abrotman>!info transmission lenny
19:12*abrotman waits for the bot
19:13<dpkg>transmission: (free, lightweight BitTorrent client), section net, is optional. Version: 1.22-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 0 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
19:13<abrotman>oh .. i've only used the transmission-gtk front end i guess
19:13<abrotman>shows you how much i do torrenting ;)
19:13<awatkins>No worries.
19:13<awatkins>I only encountered it via the Cocoa/Aqua frontend, so...
19:14<awatkins>But no, the machine copes remarkably well. Multitasking never fails to impress me on it. ;)
19:14<awatkins>Can't easily compile it on this machine either.
19:14<awatkins>(Given that it's the wrong architecture and wrong operating system. ;) )
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19:14<awatkins>(Apologies if I'm being difficult.)
19:15<abrotman>willing to try rtorrent ?
19:16<awatkins>I'll certainly look into it right now. :)
19:17<awatkins>And there's always a few Webinterfaces.
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19:19<awatkins>(Not wishing to go either, but I'm similarly impressed at how well/fast aptitude works on this hardware. Astounded really.)
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19:19<abrotman>awatkins: i have a 486 that runs etch .. it works decently well
19:21<awatkins>I'm guessing that's got to date from around the time of the start of the kernel.
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19:22<awatkins>Well, thanks for the tip-off on rtorrent, I'll give it a try when Transmission's finished it's latest.
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19:26<monkey_d_luffy>How can I know which dns nameservers are being used by my computer? I checked /etc/resolv.conf but only have 2 lines: (because I use pdns caching) and a "search"
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19:28<anarcat>i'm trying to coerce a IDE cdrom into a USB cdrom with an external enclosure... so far it's working, but for some reason the device never gets created in /dev
19:28<redDoTT>i just installed debian server on a VMWare and im trying to assign it a static ip but for some reason it picks up dhcp ip
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19:28<anarcat>^ dmesg
19:28<anarcat>[17115.768390] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
19:28<anarcat>i don't get it
19:30<redDoTT>i edited /etc/network/interfaces file to reflect the proper ip address i want to assign this machine and it still shows a ip on differnet network...
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19:37<Nemoder>redDoTT: kill the dhcp client and restart the interface with the ifdown/ifup scripts
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19:39<redDoTT>Nemoder: sorry im new to linux not sure exactly what you mean... care to elaborate a little more or tell me where i can go for detailed help?
19:39<Nemoder>redDoTT: something like: killall dhclient && ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0;
19:40<Nemoder>depending on what dhcp client you run and which interface it is
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19:50<bighornram>when I click shutdown, the box that has the shutdown options has 1/4 inch horizontal "bands" instead of a graduated shading effect. What causes this and can I fix it?
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19:53<starnull>hi. how can i be sure that my mic is set a my recording device on my sound card?
19:54<Nemoder>starnull: set it in alsamixer, test it with arecord
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19:57<bighornram>I get wide bars instead of gradients on my desktop what causes this/
19:57<dr|z3d>Running in 16bit rather than 24/32?
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20:02<monkey_d_luffy>I have a major problem :( I'm trying to install Debian on my new laptop which has a blue-ray drive... but debian doesn't detect the "cdrom device" and I'm not seeing it in /dev neither :(
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20:08<travis_>hi i have installed apache and i get this error /media/FACULTAD/www/canal
20:08<travis_>not that one
20:08<travis_>i get a permission denied error
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20:08<travis_>can anyone help?
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20:24<Knorrie>lol @ d.d.announce
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20:31<monkey_d_luffy>I have a major problem :( I'm trying to install Debian on my new laptop which has a blue-ray drive... but debian doesn't detect the "cdrom device" and I'm not seeing it in /dev neither :( Any suggestion? BTW, not detecting my NIC as well :'(
20:31<luke3321>Hm, thats ones interesting, but i'm of no help
20:32<blarson>monkey_d_luffy: What version of debian are you trying to install?
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20:36<monkey_d_luffy>blarson: debian 4.0r5 amd64 KDE cd
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20:37<monkey_d_luffy>i'm seeing lenny rc1 installation cds on Debian website... will try my luck with those :-/
20:38<blarson>monkey_d_luffy: Yes, either try etchnhalf or lenny. They have later kernels.
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20:38<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: Installation instructions: See also or <etchnhalf facts>
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20:42<monkey_d_luffy>blarson: thanks
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20:45<icyo>Is there an easy way to add a second monitor in lenny ? (on nvidia card)
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21:00<tuxgirl>hola todos :)
21:00<tuxgirl>como estan
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21:04<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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21:04<tuxgirl>como estan amigos, soy nueva en debian,
21:05<tuxgirl>he oido que el navegador iceweasel es muy bueno
21:05<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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21:05<Ouroboros>what should i do if gdm gives me a black screen after "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
21:05<abrotman>fix it
21:05<dr|z3d>Ouroboros: apt-get install slim
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21:06<Ouroboros>abrotman: sure, but i dont know which parameter is wrong, that was kinda the poing of automatic configuration :)
21:06<abrotman>what does slim have to do with X not working ?
21:06<Ouroboros>i suppose i can try to use vesa instead
21:06<abrotman>Ouroboros: or a lower resolution? less bpp
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21:06<Ouroboros>that resolution should be supported... also, doesnt it drop to a lower one automatically if not?
21:07<abrotman>depends how many you specify
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21:07<Ouroboros>well, i will try a lower one, first i gotta fix my initramfs though
21:07<abrotman>dr|z3d: will slim fix his initramfs too ?
21:08*dr|z3d smirks.
21:08<Ouroboros>heh, what is slim? i am too lazy to look
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21:09<dr|z3d>Alternative login manager. Lower footprint than GDM.
21:10<abrotman>but still won't fix a broken X
21:10<Ouroboros>but i like gdm.... it has a 'g' in the front to let you know its official :)
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21:11<gravity>Ouroboros: You should look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out what's wrong
21:11<gravity>Ouroboros: Then configure your X server so it avoids the problem
21:11<Ouroboros>i think X thinks its working
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21:11<gravity>What driver?
21:11<blarson>Ouroboros: You can use control-alt-f2 to switch to a text console.
21:11<abrotman>gravity: did you give X an AI?
21:12<Ouroboros>anyway, i think i was a little premature with that question, it will take me a while to get this booted again
21:12<Ouroboros>gravity: nv
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21:12<gravity>abrotman: A little. We all did
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21:12<abrotman>Ouroboros: what is your video card?
21:12<tuxgirl>hi people
21:13<tuxgirl>well i was in the debias-es chanell but nobody answer
21:13<tuxgirl>somebody can answer one question?
21:13<Ouroboros>abrotman: quadro fx 570m on T61... i saw one report about the driver in lenny giving a black screen, but i am not sure if this is applicable to my case
21:14<Ouroboros>tuxgirl: in english, sure
21:14<tuxgirl>well i'm new in debian lenny
21:14<Ouroboros>abrotman: i am running etch btw
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21:14<tuxgirl>and, y whant to know if is possible traslate the browser to spanish
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21:17<Supaplex>are there debug symbols for xorg? I have xorg eatting 100% of a cpucore
21:18<j_>whatsup dude
21:18<j_>how r u doing??
21:18<chealer>tuxgirl: iceweasel, or what?
21:18<gravity>Supaplex: Yeah, xserver-xorg-core-dbg
21:18<Supaplex>thanks :)
21:18<gravity>Supaplex: And the -dbg symbols for your video driver if you have one
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21:19<gravity>Supaplex: Only the major drivers have -dbg packages
21:19<tuxgirl>yes iceweasel
21:20<Supaplex>humm I apt-cache search xorg | grep serv | grep db and get zip.
21:20<gravity>Supaplex: There's a bunch in unstable
21:21<gravity>And most certainly testing
21:21<Supaplex>but not stable?
21:21<chealer>tuxgirl: it is possible. what kind of Spanish do you talk (Spain or Argentina)?
21:22<gravity>Supaplex: I think we had at least the core-dbg, but I don't remember. It's been a long time. Check
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21:22<tuxgirl>weel argentina, but really i'm from colombia, but argentina it's ok
21:22<Administrador>Tired of black people? Join us at and learn more about these feral simian beasts! This is not a skinhead or white supremacist organization. Asians, Jews, Mexicans, and any non-congoloid ethnic group is welcome to unite. HUMANS vs NIGGGERS
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21:22<Supaplex>this then client I'm sshe'd off back into my regular box has crappy video (even for text)
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21:24<abrotman>that guy was here a few days ago
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21:27<chealer>tuxgirl: you can install iceweasel-l10n-es-ar
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21:28<tuxgirl>in a terminal?, or i have to download
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21:28<Ouroboros>apt-get install
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21:37<Supaplex>humm... what the clone() ?
21:37<Supaplex>clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0x2b14e5981b70) = ? ERESTARTNOINTR (To be restarted)
21:38<Supaplex>It's constantly trying to run that system call...
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21:40<Supaplex>I'd issue a core dump, but I only have 300mb free on /etc/ :-/ fooey.
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21:42<Ouroboros>just pretend that its not happening
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21:45<Supaplex>well, looks like I get to learn what my POST screen looks like. Haven't seen that in a few months. :p
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21:47<tuxgirl>ok, i install this now what i have to do?
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21:49<chealer>tuxgirl: did you restart iceweasel?
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21:50<tuxgirl>well i'm going to do
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21:51<tuxgirl>nothing the same
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21:55<drakeman>good night people!
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21:56<drakeman>hey can anyone can help me please, i have problems , i have and avi file, but when i open it, i hear the audio but just a black screen, no errors
21:56<drakeman>and when i open a program called tvtime, i dont see the window, i think is something related with xorg
21:56<drakeman>but dont know what, anyone please? any advise?
21:56<chealer>tuxgirl: is the rest of your system in Spanish? if so, what does $ locale|head -1; output?
21:57<tuxgirl>yes is in spanish
21:57<tuxgirl>say LAG= es
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21:59<drakeman>anyone available to help please?
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22:00<chealer>tuxgirl: I don't really know what is the problem, but you could try starting iceweasel with $ LANG=es_AR iceweasel; to see whether that helps
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22:00<tuxgirl>ok i will do
22:01<chealer>drakeman: check whether your video player backend support the file's video codec.
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22:02<drakeman>but i dont think is a coded problem, well im not sure because yesterday with tv time and default lenny video drivers it shows a blue screen with the normal screen, but after installed ati drivers
22:02<tuxgirl>well i do, and start in english
22:02<drakeman>now i dont see that window
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22:03<henrique>:) thanks
22:03<drakeman>i dont think is acodec problem because if i double click the video
22:03<drakeman>shows the image and then the screen turns black again
22:04<chealer>tuxgirl: do you see the Spanish language pack in the "add-on modules" window (in the Tools menu)?
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22:04<drakeman>i think i dont have xgl
22:05<streuner__>drakeman: what does "file <some avi>" say?
22:05<chealer>drakeman: which image?
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22:05<abrotman>xgl isn't in debian
22:05<tuxgirl>not is not the spanish
22:05<abrotman>and xgl wouldn't cause the video not to play
22:05<chealer>tuxgirl: which add-on modules do you see?
22:06<streuner__>drakeman: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" say?
22:06<tuxgirl>Get-Add-Ons, Extensions, Themes, Plugins
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22:07<drakeman>streuner__: when i put file and the avi, i got this lmg-ffn-cd1.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 624 x 336, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
22:07<chealer>tuxgirl: oh. which Debian suite do you use?
22:07<drakeman>and with the last command i got this
22:07<drakeman>lmg-ffn-cd1.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 624 x 336, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
22:07<tuxgirl>Debian Lenny
22:07<drakeman>sorry sorry
22:07<drakeman>got this
22:07<drakeman>ii libc6 2.7-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
22:08<streuner>drakeman: and that happens with other avis too?
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22:08<chealer>tuxgirl: don't you see a language section in iceweasel add-ons?
22:08<drakeman>can i try with a dvd movie?
22:08<drakeman>let me see with a movie
22:09<drakeman>streuner, with a dvd movie i just heard the sound
22:09<drakeman>but no video
22:10<drakeman>when i double click the screen, or move it it shows a little video and then turns black
22:10<chealer>tuxgirl: ah. I see.
22:11<drakeman>streuner: if i pause the video and then play again, it shows like a half second video and then the screen turns black
22:11<chealer>tuxgirl: are you sure that you restarted iceweasel after you installed the language pack?
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22:12<chealer>tuxgirl: which version of iceweasel-l10n-es-ar did you install?
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22:12<drakeman>i cant see any video
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22:12<streuner>you are using unstable
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22:13<drakeman>yes, im using lenny
22:13<drakeman>but yesterday i can see videos, but with ati drivers
22:13<drakeman>now i cannot see it.
22:13<tuxgirl>well i do it in terminal
22:13<chealer>tuxgirl: you can use your favorite package manager, for example Synaptic
22:14<drakeman>wha can be the problem here?
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22:14<streuner>you are using unstable, but still (prolly) have a mix of unstable and testing, and finally you are playing with videocard drivers...
22:14<drakeman>yes, yesterday i install ati drivers, but everything works fine
22:16<chealer>streuner: what makes you think he could use a mix?
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22:16<streuner>chealer: he said, he using lenny and the output of libc6 is 2.7-16
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22:17<Ouroboros>you guys and your unstable.... i still have sarge machines :)
22:17<chealer>streuner: how does the libc6 version differentiate testing and unstable?
22:18<drakeman>and th eproblem is not just with videos, if i open tvtime program
22:18<drakeman>the screen shows in black too
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22:20<chealer>drakeman: most DVD movies are probably not going to enlight you most easily. do you have k3b?
22:20<streuner>chealer: why do you ask me these questions?
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22:21<drakeman>nopb why?
22:21<chealer>streuner: I'm curious why you asked to drakeman, and I doubt anything indicates that he's using a mix.
22:22<chealer>drakeman: just because it has a good movie to test. you could try playing an MPEG 2 movie.
22:23<drakeman>mm no, i cannot play any video
22:23<drakeman>just here audio
22:23<drakeman>sorry, just hear audio
22:24<drakeman>black screen
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22:25<chealer>drakeman: such as
22:26<chealer>drakeman: when you play a video, the whole screen becomes black?
22:26<drakeman>just the video window
22:26<PlItS>Hi to all ... i am trying to access my windows NTFS Drive from my debian partition and i get an error "Unable to mount the selected Volume" and a bunch of other lib errors on details...any sugestions?
22:26<drakeman>im trying with the link you give me
22:27<streuner>pi_: NTFS5?
22:27<drakeman>chealer: with that video i just hear the audio, black video
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22:28<chealer>drakeman: which video player do you use?
22:28<PlItS>i realy dont know if it is 5 or not i know it is ntfs hosting my windows XP installation
22:28<streuner>vista using 5, XP prolly 4
22:28<drakeman>the same with totem and vlc
22:28<drakeman>same results
22:28<abrotman>PlItS: did you compile your own kernel ?
22:29<chealer>drakeman: totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
22:29<PlItS>abrotman, no its a updated kernel from my existing debian instalation
22:29<abrotman>updated? show us `uname -a`
22:30<chealer>drakeman: did you try any player based on xine-lib?
22:30<drakeman>mmm just have totem, and vlc
22:30<PlItS>Linux 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 14 03:11:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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22:31<drakeman>but it cannot be a xorg problem? i think if i use the old xorg.conf with no ati drivers, it shows the videos
22:31<streuner>PlItS: and the NTFS partition is correctly rebooted?
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22:32<streuner>yes, did you quit windows correctly
22:32<streuner>What do you use, ntfsmount?
22:33<PlItS>this time is on a restart
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22:33<PlItS>nothing everything was done from the setup
22:33<chealer>drakeman: the problem may be merely related to your X video driver.
22:34<Ouroboros>imaging over usb 1.0 = like watching glue dry
22:34<streuner>show us the output of "ntfsmount /dev/foo /<some mountpoint>" in please
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22:35<drakeman>let me try to reconfigure it
22:35<drakeman>be back
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22:36<PlItS>-su: ntfsmount: command not found
22:37<streuner>How do you mount NTFS then?
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22:38<PlItS>its done automaticaly from debian during startup
22:40<enouf>PlItS: dynamic disks?
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22:41<drakeman>well if i reconfigure my xorg, i can videos
22:41<enouf>streuner: btw, 2k was 5.0, xpoop was 5.1, vista? who knows
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22:41<drakeman>but if i do aticonfig --initial again
22:41<drakeman>i can run compiz
22:41<drakeman>but novideo
22:41<drakeman>just audio
22:42<enouf>drakeman: is direct rendering enabled? how about 'xv' support?
22:42<chealer>PlItS: try mounting manually
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22:42<drakeman>mm let me see
22:43<streuner>PlItS: aptitude install ntfsprogs
22:43<drakeman>mm how i enable direct rendering, with an aticonfig command?
22:43<enouf>drakeman: other thing might be you need correct ranges in your xorg.conf for Hor/Vert refresh rates?
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22:44<enouf>drakeman: glxinfo should tell you, iinm
22:44<enouf>drakeman: but if all other 3D things work, etc, that's not the issue
22:44<drakeman>it says yes
22:44<drakeman>what other 3d things?
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22:44<drakeman>3d things like what?
22:44<enouf>compiz? spinning cubes?
22:45<drakeman>ah ok ok
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22:45<drakeman>mm my xorg dont have any reslution specified
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22:46<enouf>well .. i mentioned refresh rates, but also DisplaySize in Monitor section might also need to be set ... man xorg.conf, see
22:46<drakeman>this is my xorg file
22:46<enouf>are you running ubuntu?
22:46<drakeman>nop, debian
22:46<drakeman>but i use paste ubuntu tu put samples hehe
22:46<PlItS>how can i see the which is the windows partition ?
22:47<streuner>fdisk -l
22:47<enouf>bah .. my bad .. the things i mentioned would also affect other things
22:47<enouf>if they weren't correct
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22:47<enouf>drakeman: have you tried mplayer?
22:48<enouf>or xine?
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22:48<drakeman>im installing mplayer right now
22:48<enouf>drakeman: from where?
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22:49<drakeman> lenny/main mplayer 1.0~rc2-17+lenny1 [3194kB]
22:49<drakeman>im installing with apt-get install mplayer
22:49<enouf>well.. ok .. let's see .. but /msg dpkg dmm
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22:51<drakeman>but vlc should work, cause with if i use the generic drivers it works
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22:51<PlItS>debian:~# ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory fuse_mount failed. Unmounting /dev/hda1 ()
22:51<drakeman>but with this ati drivers i dont know why.
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22:51<enouf>drakeman: dpkg -l libgl* (pastebin the output) but maybe your aticonfig needs something set/tweaked/configured to enable software/hardware mpeg/avi decoding?
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22:53<drakeman>this is the output screen enouf
22:53<drakeman>the output for dpkg -l libgl*
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22:54<gsimmons>PlItS: modprobe fuse
22:55<PlItS>You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "ntfs".
22:56<streuner>!listkeys ntfs
22:56<dpkg>Factoid search of 'ntfs' by key (15 of 35): #debian ntfs ;; #debian user accessible ntfs ;; _default ntfs ;; _default ntfs resize ;; _default ntfs rw ;; _default ntfs-faq ;; _default ntfsro ;; _default ro-ntfs ;; captiventfs ;; mount ntfs ;; ntfs ;; ntfs clone ;; ntfs resizing ;; ntfsrw ;; ro-ntfs.
22:56<dpkg>If you want read/write access to NTFS filesystems, ask me about <ntfs-3g> or use ntfsmount from ntfsprogs
22:57<drakeman>streuner if i play the video from command line with mplayer
22:57<drakeman>i got this info
22:57<drakeman>no video, just sound
22:57<enouf>drakeman: i don't know hardly anything about ati drivers ... hrm, i wonder if xvinfo output might help you
22:57<drakeman>enouf: if i play the video from command line with mplayer
22:58<drakeman>i got this info
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22:59<streuner>PlItS: the partition is correctly mounted, but you got this message?
22:59<PlItS>yes i get it when i try to access it over GUI
23:00<streuner>so as user...
23:00<streuner>not as root
23:00<PlItS>as user .. in ssh as root i am in
23:01<PlItS>debian:/mnt/ntfs/Documents and Settings# pwd
23:01<PlItS>/mnt/ntfs/Documents and Settings
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23:01<streuner>check out the right entries for /etc/fstab for ntfs then
23:01<PlItS>do i have to elevate my self in GUI to in order to use ntfs ?
23:01<PlItS>oo thnx
23:02<enouf>drakeman: that looks ok to me ... and IIRC, 'xvinfo' needs to show support for YUY2 and YV12 .. but on a hunch, i'm going to say your brightness setting is off in your aticonfig :-)
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23:04<drakeman>hehe really
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23:05<drakeman>enouf: this is my result from xvinfo
23:05<enouf>drakeman: well .. something silly like that ;-) (i could be way off, but you never know)
23:06<drakeman>but is a problem?
23:06<drakeman>i had?
23:07<enouf>drakeman: mine shows an Adaptor #0: "NV Video Overlay" and and Adaptor #1: "NV Video Blitter"
23:07<enouf>and "Adaptor" is misspelled :-P
23:07<enouf>it's "Adapter"
23:08<drakeman>mm but you use nvidia
23:08<drakeman>all the outputs have to show adaptor?
23:08<enouf>drakeman: i'm actually using the Xorg 'nv' driver on an old mmx400/440
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23:09<enouf>drakeman: reconfigure your aticonfig or something ... something is missing it seems (concerning adapters/screens/overlays/etc)
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23:11<drakeman>few minutes ago i run aticonfi --initial
23:11<drakeman>but let me see what other options it have
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23:17<drakeman>i see an optin to overlay
23:17<drakeman>but dont know
23:18<enouf>drakeman: try #ati specific channels, here maybe, but also on
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23:18<enouf>drakeman: heck, maybe someone in one of the #videolan or #mplayer channels knows something about it - or read the docs ;-)
23:19<PlItS>how to install adobe flash plugin ?
23:19<Ouroboros>be a man--use vesa
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23:20<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is non-free and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree (sid or or flashplayer-mozilla ( Adobe doesn't provide security support for flash except to upgrade to the latest version, so Adobe Flash cannot be in a stable release or testing (see See also <non-free> <bpo> <adobe flash testing> <dmm> <nspluginwrapper>
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23:22<drakeman>enouf: i didnt see your last line, i close the window...
23:22<drakeman>mm you say that i have to try ati help channels to fix this?
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23:23<PlItS>i have non-free in the source.list and aptitude still cant find it
23:24<Ouroboros>PlItS: sid? backports?
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23:25<PlItS>Ouroboros, dont understand that question :(
23:25<enouf>drakeman: <enouf> drakeman: try #ati specific channels, here maybe, but also on <enouf> drakeman: heck, maybe someone in one of the #videolan or #mplayer channels knows something about it - or read the docs ;-)
23:25<drakeman>ok, thanks enouf, thanks for your patience and help! :D
23:25<Ouroboros>PlItS: are you using either of those
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23:27<Ouroboros>PlItS: did you try to install either of the packages in that factoid above
23:27<PlItS>deb etch main contrib non-free deb-src etch main contrib non-free
23:28<PlItS>this is what i have in the source.list
23:29<Ouroboros>[20:20:08] <dpkg> Adobe Flash Player is non-free and can be installed with flashplugin-nonfree (sid or or flashplayer-mozilla ( <-- install one of these
23:30<dpkg>hmm... gnash is a GNU project to create a free software Flash player. Its developers plan on writing a stand-alone player and a browser plugin. Writing a free software Flash-player has been a priority of the GNU project for some time. See for more information. ask me about <gnash_etch>
23:30<Ouroboros>nice, does it work?
23:30<Supaplex>it's better with every update. it's still betaish.
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23:31<Supaplex>streaming video didn't work a few months ago, but I haven't updated since then.
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