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00:13<brady>hi
00:13<drakeman>enouf: if i disable the compiz and choose metacity, i can play video
00:13<drakeman>isa problem with compiz i thing
00:13<drakeman>i think
00:13<drakeman>but dont know exactly what
00:13<brady>quick question about an install on a Mac G4 machine
00:13<brady>we are having some problems getting x server to function
00:13<brady>any ideas?
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00:14<brady>We went with the default Gnome environment
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00:17<Frozen>good morning
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00:18<Frozen>i have a question, is anybody alive that can help me ?
00:18<brady>anyone at all?
00:18<brady>apparently not
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00:19<Frozen>last night it had some update packages that needed to download
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00:19<Frozen>one of them had to do with the mdadm
00:19<Frozen>after the upgrade & reboot
00:19<brady>there is a graphics card issue with the PPC install that is preventing xserver from functioning properly
00:20<Frozen>it doesnt start at all, it stacks on the mdadm saying "No suitable drive was found for /md/md0/" or something
00:20<Frozen>if my raid1 2 x hdds
00:20<Frozen>are partitioned on a proper raid1 way
00:21<Frozen>is there anyway i can reinstall debian
00:21<Frozen>without loosing the /home partition?
00:21<Frozen>and using it after the fresh install without harming it?
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00:22<dibson_>frozen: I've reinstalled debian without blowing away the /home partition
00:22<Frozen>yes but how;/
00:22<Frozen>my installation is raid1 2 x hdds
00:23<dibson_>but you should probably keep a back up, i wouldn't trust it fully
00:23<Frozen>i cant
00:23<Frozen>it doesnt start
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00:23<kop>!tell Frozen -about enter
00:24<Frozen>kop: i'm pretty aware of the irc netiquette and i don't think so that it was necessairy to comment that :>
00:24<kop>Frozen : Boot the install cd and go into rescue mode (press f? at boot, one of them will say how to do it.) Then chroot into your install to do things like backup or fix it.
00:25<enouf>!rescue mode
00:25<dpkg>Debian Installer has a recovery ('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the Installation Guide ("Recovering a Broken System") for more details. Additional steps are required if you are using encrypted LVM, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto
00:25<Frozen>the problem is NOT at GRUB
00:25<enouf>no shit sherlock
00:25<Frozen>it is on the mdadm's latest upgrade which i did yesterday
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00:25<enouf>did the kernel get upgraded?
00:26<Frozen>and since that doesn't work, the rescue mode wouldnt really help though
00:26<Frozen>yeah
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00:26<Frozen>both the kernel and the mdadm
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00:27<enouf>so .. your initrd is likely missing the needed modules - and/or your /etc/default/mdadm isn't ok .. or /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf - that is; if you are indeed using mdadm and not dmraid or something
00:27<Frozen>i'm using mdadm for sure
00:27<enouf>boot the older kernel
00:27<Frozen>so yeah, probably either initrd is likely missing the needed modules or my /etc/default/mdadm isn't ok after the latest upgrade, but what can i do about it ? :/
00:28<enouf>...
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00:28<Frozen>i mean, if the problem is @ /etc/default/mdadm
00:29<Frozen>which probably is.. cause it was the first time that it had an upgrade for it, so apparently that should be the problem
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00:32<enouf>other things; livecd booting, man update-initramfs, see /usr/share/doc/mdadm/*
00:32<enouf>Frozen: can you tell us if LVM is involved at all?
00:33<Frozen>99% not, i think that i didn't have anything to do with the LVM
00:33<enouf>ok
00:33<enouf>(i recalled a bug about it, but nm)
00:33<Frozen>:p
00:33<kop>enouf: That damm weird Gateway box with the backplane acted up again. :-P I don't know what breaks (I still get ping, and ssh echos, but nothing else, ever.) I'm running vmstat 5 forever and logging the ouput. Maybe it's thrashing itself to death. (But I've 500MB of ram.) Oh well.
00:33<enouf>might want to check the BTS as well
00:34<enouf>kop: yikes!
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00:35<kop>enouf: I get the marks in /var/log/messages, so the disk isn't locked up. I've no clue. So, I've bought another box and maybe someday this one will get figured out.
00:36<enouf>kop: or .. "tossed out" ;-)
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01:00<ed00m>hi, something form Chile/latinoamerican?
01:01<Gekz>Best engrish _evar_
01:02<rutski>hey everyone
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01:06<ed00m>i have a project and i need help! in debian spanish user and develops are advised
01:06<ed00m>lack the list in english
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01:54<sheldonh>weasel: shot for the ferm recommendation
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02:43<PlItS>is there a way to resize debian partition after the installation ?
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02:44<jm_>yes
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02:44<PlItS>this requires any reinstallation ... if not how can be done ?
02:45<superjet_busy>PlItS: depends on partition type
02:45<jm_>use a tool that can resize a partition, i.e. parted
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02:46<PlItS>ext3
02:46<zongo>hello
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02:49<PlItS>!parted
02:49<dpkg>GNU Parted is a program that allows you to create, destroy, resize, move and copy hard disk partitions. I used it to resize a 10G partition to 15G without losing my data. Supports Apple and sparc partition tables, can only shrink HFS/HFS+ filesystems. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ #parted @ irc.freenode.net.
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02:53<superjet_busy>PlItS: ext3 support both shrink or enlarge, you may do it with resize2fs, parted or gparted
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02:55<LL00>hello
02:55<Supaplex>goodnight. zzZzzz
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02:56<duraperidol>hello :-)
02:56<duraperidol>does anyone know of ham radio repeaters in debian?
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02:57<internet>hjgfjf
02:57<internet>???
02:57<internet>e,jalme ton corp
02:58<LL00>about iptables, I have eth0=internet, eth1=lan1, eth2=lan2, I made SNAT but since you can't have -i eth1 for postrouting. How can not SNAT from eth2, just SNAT from eth1 ?
02:58<internet>o
02:58<internet>corpo
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02:58<LL00>salut internet
02:58<LL00>lol
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04:07<buffoon_work>hi! is badblocks a suitable tool to test a flash card? or makes it just sense for hard disks?
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04:26<freezer> ir
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04:26<sheldonh>buffoon_work: i would have thought you'd want to avoid unnecessary writes to a flash device
04:27<jm_>sheldonh: you can run it in read-only mode
04:27<jm_>then again, does that work for flash devices?
04:28<sheldonh>don't even know if they have relocation support :)
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04:34<DarkBar>hello i want to join files with cat i know how to do that but i also want to merge only files modified one hour ago
04:34<DarkBar>how can i do that?
04:34<DarkBar>its avi files
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04:35<DarkBar>now i use cat *.avi > `date +"something".avi
04:35<jm_>zsh supports such operations, otherwise generate a list with find and use that
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04:38<DarkBar>could you give me a little bit more info;]
04:38<jm_>info find to get examples, I don't know it off top of my head either
04:38<T_X>hi there, is it difficult to build my own deb-packages? I want to try the latest alsa-driver as I'm hoping to get HDMI/SPDIF support
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04:39<jm_>T_X: there already is alsa-source package, is that not good enough?
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04:42<T_X>ah, ok, didn't know about that one, I'll give it a try first, thanks
04:43<T_X>how much time would I need to learn how to make a clean package out of the latest source myself? (I heard horrible things about broken things with latest alsa-drivers, so I want to have a way to get back to the other version :D)
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04:43<T_X>and are there good tutorials so far?
04:43<jm_>it depends on how complex stuff is to package - i.e. one package, multiple packages, dev packages
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04:44<buffoon_work>well, i have a flash card from a client here where some things went wrong (chars like [ ] on a fat fs) and some data is corrupted... now i would like to test it but i'm really not sure i can trust badblocks on flash devices... since some of them have algorithm to not write/read on bad blocks and so on
04:44<sheldonh>T_X: it took me about a week to get comfortable with debian packaging
04:44<jm_>new maintainers guide should be good enough
04:44<sheldonh>T_X: i've heard from others that it took them much less time
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04:45<jm_>my first package took an hour - extract old one, replace data.tar.gz, edit control stuff, repack :P
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04:46<T_X>hmm, I think I should definitely try the source-one first ;). but thanks, everyone
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04:46<buffoon_work>jm_, I'm sure it wasn't openoffice/kde/gnome =)
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04:50<jm_>buffoon_work: absolutely not
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04:53<x>hi
04:53<x>what a feeling?
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05:28<sheldonh>so elinks supports ipv6 and links2 supports javascript, but neither does both
05:28<sheldonh>meh
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06:44<a-9>I'm trying to compile Eterm with --enable-multi-charset=utf-8 http://paste.debian.net/22137/ Any help would be appreciated.
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06:45<a-9>Oops. I forgot to say, the problem is that make fails.
06:46<E0x>a-9: install libxt-dev
06:46<E0x>and try again
06:47<petern>make does not fail :p
06:47<petern>see lines 8 and 9, and learn to read error messages.
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06:50<a-9>petern: Sure. /msg dpkg find Intrinsic.h also told me about libxt-dev. Thanks for teaching me this precious lesson. :)
06:52<a-9>How do I contact the Eterm maintainer to tell him to include that --enable-multi-charset=utf-8 ?
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06:53<petemc>a-9: you could file a bug/feature request
06:53<petemc>"bts
06:53<petemc>!bts
06:53<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> .
06:53<a-9>But, that option did not gave Eterm ascents working :/
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06:55<victim[v]>hi, I have an ATI HD4670 and I want to play Nexuiz, I extracted the zip and ran the GLX & SDL versions
06:55<victim[v]>how do I install the ATI drivers?
06:55<jm_>!fglrx
06:55<dpkg>somebody said fglrx was "FireGL and Radeon for X", the proprietary display driver made available by ATI. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner>. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary, #ati @ irc.freenode.net. See also <radeon>.
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07:02<victim[v]>with Kubuntu I would "sudo kate /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf", how does Debian do it?
07:02<jm_>the same, use an editor as root
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07:05<buffoon_work>or do first just "su" to enter a root shell and then run "kate /your/file" to edit it
07:05<buffoon_work>no need for sudo then...
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07:36<Bushmills>a-9: apt-cache show eterm
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07:37<a-9>Bushmills: Awesome! Thanks.
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07:42<freezer>hi!
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08:19<Honoka>Is it possible to start an xterm from command line which is "always on top" in metacity?
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09:50<MuTPyXa>somebody use squidguard?
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09:52<MuTPyXa>ÒÕÓÓËÉÅ ÅÓÔØ ÔÕÔ?
09:53<OdyX>I don't
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09:56<noflash>!ru
09:56<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
09:57<OdyX>that was not russian, but unicode ;)
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09:57<noflash>!unicode
09:57<dpkg>it has been said that unicode is the only sane way to manage diverse scripts sanely (even if it does pose security risks)
09:57<noflash>;)
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10:03<sheldonh>anyone know how to get tinyca to allow empty passphrases?
10:03<MuTPyXa>ok if im write russian words you speak goto debian-russian but if im ask "somebody use squidguard?" nobody write me
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10:04<petemc>people dont generally respond to polls, if you ask a specific question and someone knows the answer, they'll repsond
10:04<petemc>usually
10:04<MuTPyXa>ok
10:05<OdyX>and note that I answered...
10:05<OdyX>if you have a question MuTPyXa, just ask !
10:05<MuTPyXa>!ru
10:05<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net
10:05<MuTPyXa>cool
10:05<MuTPyXa>sorry bye
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10:06<OdyX>kthksby
10:06<binarymutant>what package provides gnome-volume-control?
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10:07<Bushmills>binarymutant: apt-file search gnome-volume-control
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10:08<binarymutant>what's apt-file?
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10:08<Bushmills>create a script with name what_package_provides doing that, then you could type that question into shell, rather than in irc
10:09<Bushmills>!apt-file
10:09<dpkg>i guess apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also <auto-apt> and <pdo>, or use apt-file: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename.
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10:12<binarymutant>thanks
10:13<Bushmills>helpless gnome user .. hm .. are you running ubuntu?
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10:15<binarymutant>on my desktop yes, but I'm using awesome and wanted the volume applet
10:15<binarymutant>whats the app in gnome that displays volume in the panel?
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11:09<poopuser>hi all.i i have problem i made base install and would like to expand it but apt-get doesn't seems to work right.can somebody look at my source.list? http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d147db506
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11:11<buffoon_work>poopuser, maybe you should tell us the error you get instead of only pushing config files...
11:11<erKURITA>seconde
11:11<erKURITA>d
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11:11<buffoon_work>poopuser, and you should add another mirror, not just the security mirror
11:12<poopuser>apt-says that package was not found in the repo.for example Xorg...
11:12<SlimeyPete>have you run apt-get update?
11:12<erKURITA>what are you exactly typing
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11:12<poopuser>apt-get install xorg / Xorg
11:12<buffoon_work>poopuser, you're missing a mirror... you just configured your system for security updates
11:13<poopuser>oh thank you
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11:13<poopuser>thx for your time everyone
11:13<poopuser>bye
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11:15<deerpark>noob here, where can i find the universe and multiverse repo's?
11:15<stew>deerpark: are you running debian or ubuntu?
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11:15<deerpark>stew: debian etch
11:15<stew>deerpark: there is no such thing in debian
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11:16<deerpark>stew: oh. do you know how i can get rar for debian?
11:16<stew>deerpark: its in the non-free repository: /msg dpkg non-free
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11:24<deerpark>stew: got it. thanks
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12:05<jshipley>I came in to work today, and my usb keyboard and mouse weren't working at all, even when rebooting
12:05<jshipley>They worked in the grub menu, but not when I loaded Debian
12:05<jshipley>I'm running an up-to-date Lenny
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12:06<jshipley>Does anybody have any idea what could have caused this? It was working fine on Friday.
12:07<Skratz0r>Were they plugged in
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12:07<Skratz0r>Ok sorry
12:08<cahoot>atteries gone?
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12:08<cahoot>batteries gone?
12:08<erKURITA>cahoot USB
12:08<cahoot>erKURITA: and?
12:08<erKURITA>he'd have said wireless keyboard and mouse
12:09<jshipley>they're not wireless, but they are usb
12:09<erKURITA>told you so
12:09<jshipley>I'm running the 2.6.26-1-686 kernel
12:09<erKURITA>jshipley try disabling USB Legacy Support in the BIOS
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12:09<erKURITA>or enabling it, if disabled
12:10<cahoot>erKURITA: fwiw my usb kb and mouse use a usb receiver
12:10<Skratz0r>Bye all
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12:10<erKURITA>how would you reffer to them: wireless or USB kb & mouse
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12:10<cahoot>and
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12:11<jshipley>Ok, I'll reboot and see if that works... thanks. I'll probably be back if it doesn't
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12:19<jshipley>I didn't see any legacy usb options in my bios... the only usb option was to turn off the usb controller
12:20<jshipley>I'm thinking that the kernel isn't properly recognizing the usb modules... or something like that, but I'm not sure what I have to do to fix it
12:20<jshipley>I'm running from an old Ubuntu partition right now
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12:23<jshipley>what else could cause the keyboard mouse to stop responding?
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12:23<Halitech>jshipley, are they plugged in direct or through a usb hub?
12:25<erKURITA>that's an old motherboard...
12:25<jshipley>They're plugged in directly to the computer. They work when I boot Ubuntu Gutsy (with a 2.24 kernel), but not Debian Lenny (with a 2.26 kernel)
12:26<jshipley>I think that the computer is a few years old... I didn't buy it though, it's just the computer that I have at work.
12:26<jshipley>It's a Dell, if that helps
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12:27<Halitech>jshipley, ok, so much for the thought of a failing usb hub
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12:28<Halitech>jshipley, do you have other usb ports you could try?
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12:28<Halitech>jshipley, or another mouse/keyboard?
12:30<jshipley>Yes... but I'd be surprised if that was the problem, since the ports/keyboard/mouse are all working fine when I boot Ubuntu, but not when I boot Debian
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12:31<jshipley>The keyboard works fine during boot up until the debian kernel starts loading (ie I can make grub selections, but even a Ctrl+Alt+Delete doesn't work once the kernel starts loading)
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12:36<cahoot>jshipley: the debian recently upgrade?
12:36<cahoot>d
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12:37<jshipley>I believe so, and I believe that the kernel was part of that upgrade
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12:38<jordanb>hi.
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12:38<jeff__>so its missing usb in the kernel
12:38<jordanb>I'm trying to build the kernel source using dpkg-buildpackage
12:39-!-mode/#debian [+l 371] by debhelper
12:39<jordanb>It generated the config and all that.
12:39<jordanb>The .config for the linux kernel.
12:39<jeff__>....
12:40<jordanb>But then it doed with the error "cp: cannot overwrite directory '/debian/config' with non-directory"
12:40<jordanb>died
12:40<jshipley>jeff__ so how could I get usb back in the kernel? and why would the kernel come without usb? (linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 from testing repository)
12:40<metalqga>read a howto compile a kernel
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12:41<jeff__>jshipley it must be missing usb for your hardware in preticular, do you have no ps/2 ports ?
12:41<jordanb>metalqga; This is a debian issue. It's happening in the debian directory after running dpkg-buildpackage
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12:42<jeff__>is there anythiing in config dir ? it obviously wants to make a file where there is a dir
12:42<jshipley>I have ps/2 ports, but I don't have ps2 keyboard/mouse
12:42<cahoot>jshipley: or possibly udev not creating devices as it should - without any sort of error msg it's all guesswork
12:42<metalqga>and why would you compile a kernel without configuring it by yourself?
12:42<jordanb>metalqga; I had to apply a patch.
12:42<jeff__>jshipley seems like your going to need atleast some usb-->ps/2 adaptors to figure the problem out
12:42<jordanb>I don't want a custom kernel. I want the debian kernel + the patch.
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12:44<jordanb>jshipley; Yes there is a config dir. I assume it's there for a reason.
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12:44<jordanb>I didn't make it myself.
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12:45<metalqga>try removing it
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12:45<jeff__>did you look in it
12:45<jeff__>is it empty
12:45<jordanb>Yes, and no it's not.
12:45<metalqga>oh
12:45<dominik>hi
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12:46<dominik>I'm using a self-compiled kernel with libata IDE drivers
12:46<dominik>2.6.27.7
12:46<jordanb>Looks like there's a whole bunch of different config files in there, with the format of .config.
12:46<dominik>according to dmesg, my cdrom drives are detected, but no device nodes in /dev are created
12:46<metalqga>i think there should be only one file .config in the main dir
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12:46<jordanb>This isn't in the main dir. it's in debian/config
12:47<dominik>why?
12:47<jshipley>brb -- I'm going to try booting debian again, and see if I can see anything in the boot text
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12:49<T_X>hi there, I'm trying to compile the alsa-source package, but I'm getting errors
12:49<T_X>by the way, do I have to use linux-source or is linux-headers fine too? (I tried both anyway)
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12:50<metalqga>lol tonight is the night for compiling :D
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12:53<T_X>what :D?
12:53<T_X>the error is the following: /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/adriver.h:1186: error: too many arguments to function ‘pci_save_state’
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12:54<T_X>and: /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/adriver.h:1190: error: too many arguments to function ‘pci_restore_state’
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12:56<And1>Hey folks. Everytime I'm trying to change into my chroot (via 'schroot') I geht this message: http://pbot.rmdir.de/33823369728bdb229f1c4768c587ad9c -- What's the problem here?
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12:59<jshipley_>weird... I have an external HD, and the keyboard/mouse worked when I booted after I unplugged the HD...
12:59<jshipley_>thanks for the help
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13:07<pochi>hello
13:07<pochi>has someone experience with svgalib and touchscreens?
13:07<kop>!ask
13:07<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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13:10<pochi>ok, my touchscreen works fine with X, but not with svgalib, debian etch, is there a way to find the thevise or to test it?
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13:10<pochi>can someone recommend a good lecture?
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13:22<tristan>saludos a todos es mi primera vez aqui
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13:23<tristan>quien puede instruirme sobre el uso de xchat
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13:24<dr|z3d>!debian-es
13:24<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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13:24<tristan>no se habla español
13:24<tristan>??
13:25<tristan>hello somebody
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13:26<tristan>somebody come hell me
13:26<tristan>help me
13:26<tristan>puff
13:26<stew>tristan: if you have a question, just ask it
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13:27<Valtiel>tristan: english please
13:27<Valtiel>i'm russian
13:27<Valtiel>i don't know Spanish
13:27<Valtiel>Espanol
13:28<tristan>sorry to all
13:28<dr|z3d>!debian-ru
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13:28<tristan>i think here spike spanish
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13:28<Valtiel>dr|z3d:on debian-russian stupid idiots
13:28<Valtiel>and pigs
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13:29<dr|z3d>tristan: True. We do spike the Spanish here ;)
13:29<Valtiel>i ask questions and be banned
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13:29<dr|z3d>Valtiel: Ah, we've met before, had the same chat.. your English is fine.. carry on using it :)
13:29<Valtiel>without reasons
13:29<Valtiel>i know
13:29<Valtiel>((
13:30<Valtiel>sorry
13:30<Valtiel>but i don't have a choise
13:30<And1>Hey folks. Everytime I'm trying to change into my chroot (via 'schroot') I get this message: http://pbot.rmdir.de/33823369728bdb229f1c4768c587ad9c
13:30<tristan>l new in debian, and i have problem with my laptop to used the headphone
13:30<dr|z3d>Valtiel: There's an expression, "Pissed with their own self-importance" that probably pertains to the channel you're not getting on very well in.
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13:31<tristan>l have a hp dv5 1002
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13:32<stew>tristan: and what is the problem?
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13:32<zulu>hi, how to show wifi mac address?
13:33<dr|z3d>iwconfig
13:33<zulu>can't see it using iwconfig
13:33<dr|z3d>Oh, um, MAC address.
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13:33<zulu>yes I need the mac address
13:33<tristan>dont have sound when used Hearing Aid
13:34<gsimmons>zulu: ifconfig
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13:34<Valtiel>sorry i don't know English (((
13:34<zulu>gsimmons so I have to ifup it before?
13:34<gsimmons>zulu: No.
13:34<zulu>I can't see it without activating the wifi network?
13:35<dr|z3d>zulu: Try the -a switch also.
13:35<stew>tristan: /msg dpkg alsa checklist
13:35<Valtiel>zulu: ifconfig i guess
13:35<zulu>gsimmons ok I just specified the interface ;)
13:35<tristan>stew: ok
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13:38<Halitech>has anyone had success in upgrading Open Office to v3 in etch?
13:38<tristan>stew : not working
13:38<tristan>stew: not working
13:39<metalqga>Halitech not in lenny, but havent tried that hard
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13:39<tristan>stew: i used the comand but nothing happens
13:40<Halitech>metalqga, ok, trying to find an easier way of doing it, got a 'friend' that keeps insisting on sending .docx files to me
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13:41<stew>tristan: which command didn't work?
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13:43<AzaTht>anyone who think it's an good idea to make an reimplementation of an instance of STL, please raise your hand
13:44<angelo>hi... I'm looking for an easy to use backup programm but effective... What I want to do is let some SMB shared folders be shadowed to another HDD.. what can I use best ?
13:44<tristan>stew: the alsamixer
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13:44<stew>tristan: do you get an error?
13:45<tristan>stew: said.. function snd_ctl_open failed for default
13:45<tristan>stew: i dont know wait
13:45<stew>tristan: have you run alsaconf?
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13:46<tristan>stew: yes
13:46<stew>tristan: did it successfully detect your soundcard?
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13:47<tristan>stew: now l in the alsaconf
13:47<zulu>how to make dhcpd listen on the wifi interface?
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13:47<tristan>stew: now is loaded
13:48<tristan>found 3 diferent cards
13:48<stew>tristan: does alsamixer work as root?
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13:48<dr|z3d>zulu: You might be better with a front-end for your network adapters. Configuration is then trivial.
13:48<tristan>yes
13:48<stew>zulu: you'd configure it as being dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ; man interfaces
13:49<stew>tristan: adduser username audio ; then logout and log back in
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14:02<angelo>hi... I'm looking for an easy to use backup programm but effective... What I want to do is let some SMB shared folders be shadowed to another HDD.. what can I use best ?
14:03<Halitech>angelo, rsync?
14:03<angelo>oki
14:04<angelo>lemme look at some man pages
14:04<jordanb>Yeah rsync would be your best bet for that.
14:04<jordanb>By "shadowed" do you mean, 'synced up occasonally' or do you mean live mirroring?
14:04<angelo>does it work with time interval or does it sync everytime a files changes ?
14:05<Halitech>angelo, are the shared folders and the other hard drive connected to the same machine?
14:05<jordanb>angelo; rysnc works in batch. You run it and it syncs up everything right hne.
14:05<angelo>Halitech yep .. same computer
14:05<jordanb>angelo; So I have rsync run once nightly.
14:05<angelo>is there also a way so that files are being watched for changes ?
14:05<jordanb>Not with rsync.
14:05<jordanb>Or with anything I think.
14:05<petern>if you do that, you want a raid mirror
14:06<jordanb>If you want live mirroring you need something like raid.
14:06<Halitech>angelo, just set cron to run once an hour or 2
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14:06<angelo>jordanb I know but it is a 1.2tb hdd and its just like a gig or 200 that needs to be mirrored... so raid mirror would be expensive overkill :p
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14:07<jordanb>You can software raid just a partition.
14:07<angelo>how can I let rsync run once every 2 hours?? can it do that itself or do I need cron for that ?
14:07<jordanb>Cron.
14:08<jordanb>Rsync is just a utility that synchronizes two directory trees efficiently.
14:08<stew>don't sell it short
14:08<jordanb>Well yeah, the way it does it is pure magic.
14:08<angelo>hmm never got cron to work
14:08<jordanb>But it's not an all-encompasing 'backup framework' like amanda or something.
14:09<angelo>it's like my nemises in linux enviroment
14:09<stew>angelo: why would't you just use software raid?
14:09<jordanb>Debian should have set it up for you.
14:09<angelo>stew then I would need 2 HDDs just as big right ?
14:09<stew>angelo: yes
14:09<jordanb>no.
14:10<jordanb>You just need two partitions the same size.
14:10<stew>right
14:10<angelo>hmm .. could be done .. but not ideal
14:10<angelo>but I guess if I get cron and rsync to like eachother it will be fine as well
14:10<petern>scheduled rsync has its advantages... two filesystems to go wrong instead of one, and a time delay for when someone accidentally removes an important file...
14:10<jordanb>If you want live mirroring, that's what raid is for.
14:11<jordanb>petern; Yeah that's why I use the rsync setup.
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14:11<angelo>well it's not like federal stuff I hold .. so I'll try to get rsync up :P
14:11<jordanb>If I accidently delete something I can fetch it from the backup.
14:11<angelo>is that easy to do ?
14:11<jordanb>Provided I don't delete it a few minutes before 3:00 AM.
14:11<stew>angelo: its just "0 */2 * * * rsync -a /from/here /to/there"
14:11<stew>angelo: (to rsync to directories every two hours)
14:12<angelo>hmm that I put in the crontab config ?
14:12<stew>angelo: yes, with crontab -e
14:12<angelo>wait a minute let me do this on the fly :)
14:12<jordanb>5 5 * * * root /usr/local/sbin/run-scheduled-backups
14:12<jordanb>^-- I have that in my /etc/crontab
14:13<jordanb>And run-scheduled-backups is a shell script with the rsync commands in it.
14:13<jordanb>That runs it at 5:05 every morning.
14:13<angelo>why 5:05 ?
14:14<jordanb>Well I think it used to be at 3:00 but I'm occasionally up at three, so I moved it to when I'm almost never around.
14:14<cahoot>one's usually occupied by milking the cows at 505
14:14<jordanb>Yes.
14:14<angelo>hehe
14:15<angelo>ok I did apt-get install cron ... do I need to activate cron now or is it up and running and I just need to put some stuff in the cron config ?
14:15<jordanb>Cron wasn't already installed?
14:15<stew>angelo: you should already have had cron installed and it should already be running
14:15<angelo>hmm maybe I just updated it then
14:15<stew>angelo: "pidof cron" should return a number
14:15<stew>(if it is running)
14:16<angelo>19625
14:17<angelo>hmm where is that damn cron config file
14:17<angelo>found it :)
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14:19<petern>wrong
14:19<petern>you use crontab -e
14:20<angelo>do I need a special parameter for rsync to check whether it is updated or deleted or does rsync -a do ?
14:20<angelo>crontab -e ?
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14:20<angelo>petern what happens if I just edit the crontab file ?
14:20<jordanb>If you want to install it in your personal cron tab, you use crontab -e, if you want to make it a system-level thing you put it in /etc/crontab
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14:21<jordanb>in /etc/crontab you have to specify the user that it's to run as.
14:21<Guest597>hey guys im having fun with the ssh on the LAN - are there any logs kept on who and when logged in or got denied? the sshd.conf doesnt have an entry
14:21<jordanb> /var/log/auth.log
14:21<angelo>jordanb so if I'm the owner of the machine crontab works just as easy ? does cron automaticly pick up new entries or do I have to restart it >?
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14:22<jordanb>If you put it in /etc/crontab I think you do need to restart it, yes.
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14:23<jordanb>I put mine in /etc/crontab because my particular setup needs to run as root.
14:23<Guest597>jordanb: thanks :)
14:24<angelo>what does this mean ?
14:24<angelo>RED-FLAG:/backup# cd zaggi
14:24<angelo>-su: cd: zaggi: Input/output error
14:24<Germanaz0>can I use sudo action on debian ? :x
14:25<Skratz0r>Germanaz0: yes
14:25<Skratz0r>apt-get install sudo
14:25<Germanaz0>ahh
14:25<jordanb>angelo; Looks like a device problem.
14:25<Germanaz0>ty
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14:27<angelo>can I ask a samba related question here?
14:27<Valtiel>ÎÕÙ
14:27<Valtiel>yes
14:27<angelo>well it works perfect :P .. been running it for years now
14:27<angelo>but it seems like whenever it has been set up for some time
14:27<angelo>it gets quiet slow
14:27<angelo>especially from windows boxes
14:28<angelo>now I know this is a known problem .. but on google I couldn't find a satisfying solution
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14:28<angelo>like some buffers get filled up and not cleaned or ssomething
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14:29<cahoot>fragmentation?
14:29<angelo>cahoot is that to me ?
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14:29<cahoot>yes
14:30<angelo>what do you mean in that case ? :P
14:30<Germanaz0>hey one question why my debian boot very slow ?
14:30<Germanaz0>like 1.5min for boot
14:30<cahoot>it's not vfat?
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14:30<angelo>no it is EXT3
14:30<cahoot>why smb then?
14:31<cahoot>err - disregard
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14:31<angelo>so that my windows boxes can access it easily
14:31<angelo>and my xbox and phone
14:31<angelo>should I use FAT in that case then ?
14:32<cahoot>err - disregard
14:32<angelo>oh ok :P
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14:35<angelo>or can I be recommended using CIFS ?
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14:36<buffoon>angelo: is your question which filesystem or which protocol?
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14:37<angelo>protocol .. don;t knoiw much about cifs .. but by ur remark I take it is not a protocoal like smb ?
14:38<buffoon>angelo: it is the unix implementation of smb... (you do mount.cifs... the protocol is always called smb)
14:39<angelo>oh ok .. .. so its not a different protocol .. and not for linux as server side ?
14:39<buffoon>samba is the server doing smb/cifs stuff
14:40<valdyn>!cifs
14:40<dpkg>[cifs] Common Internet File System or see <SMB>, or it is basically SMB without <NBT>
14:40<angelo>!nbt
14:40<dpkg>nbt is, like, an implementation of the NetBIOS API on top of TCP/IP
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14:40<LL00>about snd module are inside kernel not as modules, right? now I can diseable sound modules load?
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14:41<valdyn>or: cifs is samba fs without compatibility to ancient windows versions
14:41<angelo>hmm I oldest win version Ive got is XP so I guess I'm ok ..
14:41<angelo>hmm
14:41<valdyn>angelo: yes, and you should not use samba fs anyway
14:41<angelo>so would it help if I setup samba to use cifs instead of SMB then ?
14:42<petern>no
14:42<petern>samba is a server
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14:42<petern>cifs is a client
14:42<valdyn>oh geez
14:42<valdyn>cifs is a filesystem
14:42<angelo>aha .... so its meaningless in my case.. linux is my server system
14:42<angelo>sorry .. I start to understand what cifs is now :P
14:43<valdyn>angelo: yes
14:43<valdyn>samba does not need kernel support, but the kernel has cifs client support
14:43<angelo>ok but then Im still down to the problem that file accessing is slow from my windows clients
14:43<angelo>way slower then windows to windows sharing
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14:45<angelo>Im stumbling over google for this for months now but cannot find a really helpfull solution
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14:47<buffoon>angelo: do you have more problems to access to files or to shares?
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14:48<angelo>hmm both actually ...
14:48<angelo>when I enter a share or browse around it is slow
14:48<angelo>but when I access a file ... it is usually faster to copy it (via the same samba) to my local computer first then run it
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14:49<buffoon>well, its obvious that files running locally are faster...
14:49<angelo>ofcourse
14:49<buffoon>maybe you should setup some name resolutions
14:49<valdyn>angelo: try using scp to see if the issue even is at sambas level
14:49<angelo>scp ?
14:49<angelo>whats that ?
14:50<angelo>!scp
14:50<dpkg>scp is Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. The client program is in the openssh-client package and it just uses the ssh server at the other end so you don't need to install anything special on the server (openssh-server package). ssh + cpio. Install scponly to restrict commands to scp-users. More infos: <sftp><sshfs>
14:50<valdyn>!scp
14:50<valdyn>!winscp
14:50<dpkg>methinks winscp is a GUI SCP client for Windows. http://winscp.vse.cz/eng (English site) http://winscp.vse.cz/cze/ (Czech Site)
14:50<valdyn>!putty
14:50<dpkg>well, putty is a DFSG-free ssh/telnet/rsh client for Windows and Linux. It is small, simple, and has no install nonsense. Available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/, or see <putty linedraw>
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15:00<LL00>!modules
15:00<dpkg>rumour has it, modules is a driver for a device (a part of a kernel) which can be dynamically loaded/unloaded.;; the Kernel's Secret Blend of Herbs and Spices, or to compile a module that doesn't come in the kernel, look into module-assistant
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15:00<jordanb>Yeah when I'm looking for utilities to use on Windows, DFSG is always a big concern.
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15:08<panagos>erm, could someone please explain to me why psi is in freeze? (http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=psi) thanks!
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15:13<aptituz>panagos: well, because testing is in freeze, because we are preparing a release
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15:13<panagos>aptituz: aha
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15:19<ThibG>Hi
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15:20<ThibG>I made a mistake and destroyed the partitions of my external hard drive
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15:20<jello>ThibG: just the partition table? or did you overwrite the data as well?
15:20<ThibG>the partition table and the first partition
15:21<ThibG>i'm not asking help for recover it, it'll be too long
15:21<ThibG>but, this leads me to a question : what should be the group of a external hard drive ?
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15:22<ThibG>(I made a bootable USB key, but I messed up with the devices)
15:22<jello>the group?
15:22<jello>of the files?
15:22<ThibG>the fact is that the group of /dev/sda (my external HDD) is floppy
15:22<Bushmills>or the mount point?
15:23<ThibG>shouldn't it be disk ?
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15:23<jello>ThibG: let udev worry about it?
15:24<jello>ThibG: to be more precise, why do you care? what's not working for you?
15:24<ThibG>yeah, but the thing is that it wouldn't have happened if /dev/sda's group were disk
15:25<LL00>how can I know if kernel module is hard or module? like soundcore
15:25<ThibG>I mean, since I'm in the floppy group and not in the disk group, it wouldn't have let me write on it
15:25<jello>LL00: modprobe <module>; lsmod | grep <module>
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15:25<Bushmills>LL00: if it shows in lsmod (when used) it is module
15:25<LL00>it's in lsmod
15:26<LL00>but I didn't it in aliases
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15:26<LL00>how come
15:26<Bushmills>your kernel .config can give clues too
15:26<LL00>CONFIG_SOUND=m
15:26<jello>ThibG: ah, so you think udev should have made the device node's group disk, rather than floppy
15:26<LL00>shouldn't soundcore and snd_pcm in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases?
15:27<Bushmills>and modprobe -l | grep modulename
15:27<ThibG>no, it had made the device node's group floppy, rather than disk
15:27<jello>LL00: nah, they're probably pulled in by the "real" sound driver
15:27<ThibG>ah
15:27<jello>ThibG: right, and you wish it had done it the other way
15:27<ThibG>I didn't read well
15:27<ThibG>yes
15:27<ThibG>that's right
15:28<LL00>/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
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15:28<LL00>jello, how I know which sound driver?
15:28<jello>LL00: lsmod | grep snd
15:29<jello>LL00: also, check /etc/modules
15:29<LL00>snd_pcm 62596 0
15:29<jello>LL00: that's not it
15:29<jello>LL00: pastebin the output
15:29<LL00>I didn't see snd_pcm in alaises too
15:29<LL00>!pastebin
15:29<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
15:29<ThibG>I'm not sure this is normal for a hard drive to be "floppy"
15:30<LL00>http://rafb.net/p/y7oTG391.html
15:30<jello>ThibG: it's "floppy" in the sense of being removeable
15:30<ThibG>hm, yes
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15:31<jello>LL00: okay, there's nothing useful there. do you actually get sound?
15:31<ThibG>but I think it have been "disk" in the past
15:31<LL00>I don't want sound
15:31<ThibG>but I'm note sure
15:31<jello>LL00: okay, blacklist snd
15:31<LL00>snd what about soundcore?
15:31<jello>LL00: all you have loaded are the generic alsa drivers
15:31<LL00>why I didn't see "snd" in alaises
15:32<jello>LL00: or that one, i forget which one comes first
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15:32<jello>soundcore i think
15:32<jello>snd is shorter to type
15:32<LL00>I should read about "snd" or soundcore somewhere ins aliases?
15:33<jello>LL00: huh? why?
15:33<LL00>where is auto load modules list?
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15:33<WaY_>hello
15:34<LL00>or why soundcore module loaded?
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15:34<jello>LL00: you can remove the alsa-base package
15:34<WaY_>there is any mkv to avi converter gui for debian?
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15:34<jello>giyf
15:34<jello>maybe mplayer
15:34<WaY_>mplayer?
15:34<jello>ThibG: file a bug against udev?
15:35<ThibG>jello, I will probably, but I don't know if this behaviour is wrong
15:35<jello>WaY_: yeah, that's your best bet i think
15:35<LL00>Package: alsa-base
15:35<LL00>State: not installed
15:35<LL00>:)
15:35<jello>ThibG: the distinction between floppy and disk is kinda blurry for usb disks
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15:36<jello>LL00: problem solved, no sound, ever ;)
15:36<LL00>but I don't want sound modules load
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15:36<LL00>loaded*
15:36<LL00>it's server
15:37<ThibG>hm, ya, but I don't use a 320GB HDD the same way I use a floppy disk or an usb key
15:37<jello>LL00: disable hotplugging altogether and use a static /dev if you wish
15:37<WaY_>ok jello I'm going to have a look
15:37<WaY_>thanks
15:37<LL00>hum I don't how to do this
15:37<jello>ThibG: right, a usb key and usb hdd look the same, except for the capacity...
15:38<LL00>and my VM doesn't have sound card, why sound module loaded?
15:38<jello>LL00: or run a hand-tuned kernel with only the stuff you want compiled in and no modules
15:38<ThibG>I can remember that a few months ago, my usb disk was floppy, and my external hard drive disk
15:38<jello>ThibG: check /var/log/dpkg.log* and see if udev was changed
15:39<ThibG>here is the last update : 2008-10-07 15:17:29 status installed udev 0.125-7
15:40<jello>ThibG: that's just a status, not a change...
15:40<ThibG>it is a change
15:40<jello>there should be an upgrade line
15:41<ThibG>hm
15:41<ThibG>2008-10-07 15:17:07 upgrade udev 0.125-6 0.125-7
15:41<LL00>jello, lol
15:41<LL00>http://rafb.net/p/Y8ubCW15.html
15:41<jello>that's a change :)
15:41<jello>LL00: modprobe -r
15:42<LL00>FATAL: Module soundcore is in use.
15:42<jello>i think it works recursively...
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15:42<jello>LL00: okay, then do them in reverse order...
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15:42<Snoupy>hi
15:43<jello>LL00: first snd_pcm, then snd_timer, etc...
15:43<LL00>sudo rmmod snd_pcm
15:43<LL00>ERROR: Module snd_pcm does not exist in /proc/modules
15:43<jello>!greet Snoupy
15:43<dpkg>G'day, Snoupy
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15:43<jello>LL00: so it's gone
15:43<jello>LL00: just keep re-running lsmod | grep snd
15:44<Snoupy>i need to find a software that allows me to transform a https server into a remote file storage. i need to be able to download, upload files of any types with a nice interface in php. any advice ??
15:44<LL00>they gone
15:44<jello>LL00: congrats :)
15:44<LL00>snd_page_alloc <-- what is that module
15:44<jello>LL00: memory management for the sound subsystem i think
15:44<jello>LL00: check with modinfo?
15:44<LL00>yes
15:44<LL00>I will remove it too
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15:45<jello>Snoupy: giyf
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15:46<jello>Snoupy: or do a debtags search
15:46<jello>http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/ssearch.html
15:46<LL00>ok now I should put there 3 modules in blackmist
15:46<LL00>thx
15:46<LL00>s/there/these
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15:46<jello>LL00: seriously, if you're that concerned, you should hand-build a kernel that suits your needs
15:46<Snoupy>i cant find it on google,
15:47<LL00>I should
15:47<jello>!tell LL00 about kernel-package
15:47<LL00>next time when I will be more advance with kernel build
15:47<LL00>but make kernel take time to compile
15:47<jello>LL00: not much more than you spent on IRC doing this... :)
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15:48<LL00>I'm learning linux, debian, OS
15:48<LL00>so it's good to know how to remove useless modules
15:49<LL00>build kernel will be futur nextstep later
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15:58<ThibG>thanks for answering, I have filed a udev bug :)
15:59<AzaTht>hate people writing code on VC8/9
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15:59<ThibG>bye
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16:12<GoldElite>Does anyone running Lenny have their "New login in new window" working?
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16:13<s_i_m>GoldElite, install xnest
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16:14<GoldElite>Oh, awesome. Cheeks, s_i_m
16:14<GoldElite>s/cheeks/cheers
16:14<vendieta>Have anyone script for downloading on rapidshare.com after changes?
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16:51<jthomas>Anyone know how to fix this? >> W: GPG error: ftp://debian.uchicago.edu testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
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16:54<GoldElite>jthomas: You need to install the pgp keys for whatever repository it is you're using.
16:54<GoldElite>Don't know if this'll work, but it's worth a try: http://mayankjohri.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/adding-public-keys-for-apt-get/
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16:55<jthomas>'apt-get install debian-archive-keyring' seemed to have done it after some more searching
16:55<jthomas>thanks GoldElite
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16:55<GoldElite>No problems
16:55<GoldElite>Does anyone around here know if Lenny has any packages for unpacking RAR files properly? None of the obvious (unrar, upc) work... =\
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16:56<jthomas>unrar works for me in lenny
16:56<jthomas>unrar e file1.rar
16:57<jthomas>which then goes and gets all of the .r01 .r02 files also in that dir
16:57<GoldElite>Hmmm, I'm getting extraction errors. It's just a single file, but I don't think I've been able to open a RAR file since I switched to Linux...
16:57<petemc>there are two unrars
16:57<petemc>you probably want the non free one
16:58<GoldElite>Ahh; What might that be called?
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16:58<petemc>add the non free re
16:58<petemc>erm
16:58<petemc>add the non free repo, its in there
16:59<upsilon>just called unrar
16:59<petemc>another possibility is your rar archive is corrupt
17:00<petemc>if you have any par files, they may be able to fix it, if thats the case
17:00<GoldElite>Cheers, it works. I feel dirty for using a non-free application, but at least I don't have to admit defeat to a Windows user =P
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17:02<Tuplad>how do I put a program (conky in this case) for autostart ?
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17:04<jthomas>GoldElite :)
17:05<GoldElite>Did it work then?
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17:05<jthomas>my apt-keyring thing did; i see your rar thing did. we're both winners today, GoldElite
17:05<GoldElite>Yay! Everyone's happy:)
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17:08<jthomas>:)
17:08<jthomas>even more so, i am leaving the office early!
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17:08<jthomas>have a good one all!
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17:09<GoldElite>Hehe, you too; Bye
17:11<Tuplad>how do I put a program (conky in this case) for autostart ?
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17:16<Lenhix>Tuplad: you could add a line in the crontab: @reboot conky
17:17<Lenhix>If you want it to start with the graphical user sesion you should get info on your respective display manager
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17:27<punga> heya, can you tell me what file I need to write in /proc to change the numlock led ... its something with IOCTL KDSETLED stuff ... I just dont remember. I wanna do a program to change it in my rc.local
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17:30<antonio>CIao a tutti
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17:30<antonio>Necessito di un aiuto in merito ad una scheda di rete wifii
17:30<antonio>Chi mi puo' dare una mano?
17:30<Tuplad>Hmmm
17:30<Tuplad>I'm confused on how to add conky to crontab :(
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18:15<Deepy>Anyone got a NNTPd to recommend? It's supposed to host MY groups and NOT be connected to USENET or anything similiar.
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18:19<kily>hola
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18:32<Germanaz0>hi
18:32<Germanaz0>I need help
18:32<Germanaz0>can someone help me ? :X
18:33<petemc>you need to ask a question first
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18:34<Pryon>A different one, anyway
18:34<Germanaz0>ok
18:34<Germanaz0>I have a server
18:35<Germanaz0>an external server
18:35<Germanaz0>and I would know if there are any debian app
18:35<Germanaz0>that let you work with cvs
18:35<Deepy>apt-get install cvs
18:35<Germanaz0>yes but I would like create
18:35<Germanaz0>the cvs
18:35<Germanaz0>into a server
18:35<Germanaz0>that have ftp and ssh
18:35<Deepy>You can put more than 6 wordso n the same line
18:36<Germanaz0>ok
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18:36<Pryon>cvs knows how to speak ssh
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18:37<Germanaz0>nice
18:38<Germanaz0>I installed gcvs but don't understand too mcuh
18:38<Pryon>google and info are your friends
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18:39<monkey_d_luffy>how can I see the log of a freshly installed system? Is there any "debian installation log" ?
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18:40<petemc>there ins an installer.log
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18:40<bighornram>what is a compositing manager?
18:40<Germanaz0>can someone gimme an example how to connect to X server with cvs ?
18:41<petemc>monkey_d_luffy: theres dpkg.log and aptitude logs to show whats been installed
18:41<monkey_d_luffy>petemc: dooh.... off course... /var/log/installer thanks
18:42<petemc>Germanaz0: what would you do once you connected to this x server with cvs?
18:42<Germanaz0>learn
18:42<Germanaz0>I need the start jump
18:42<petemc>i think you should learn first, connect later
18:42<LL00>any boot options for no ipv6 kernel module for new installation?
18:42<stevecotton>Germanaz0: if you mean the Concurrent Versions System, no. Do you mean something else called "cvs"?
18:42<themill>Germanaz0: cvs -d:ext:username@servername.example.com:/path/to/cvs/root co modulename
18:43<Germanaz0>ty themill :D
18:43<themill>Germanaz0: giyf
18:43<Pryon>bighornram: It's software that uses OpenGL to add eye candy to your desktop
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18:44<bighornram>Pryon: Thanks, I have an intel card how would I know if it supports OpenGL?
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18:48<Pryon>bighornram: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
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18:48<Pryon>Hmmm. That might not be best.
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18:55<Pryon>bighornram: which card?
18:57<LL00>[DIR] 20081124-2/ 25-Nov-2008 00:11
18:57<LL00>:p
18:57<LL00>it should be 20081125
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18:59<bighornram>Pryon: Got it! You provided the missing clue thanks.
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18:59<Pryon>cool
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19:32<Schreck>Hi ! :)
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19:32<Schreck>`grep -i "<description>" ${OUTPUTFILE} | awk -F">" '{print $2}'|awk -F"<" '{print $1}'`
19:33<Schreck>Is there any other way for this
19:33<Schreck>Knowing that the result of the grep is " <description>success</description>"
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19:47<MattD>I'm trying to install debian on a laptop but every time i get to the partitioning it locks up about 1/3 of the way any ideas?
19:48<azeem>MattD: 1/3 of the way to what?
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19:49<cwood>Good evening.
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19:49<MattD>through the partitioning process (the meter bar)
19:49<azeem>MattD: what partitioning method did you choose?
19:49<MattD>right after it asks u if u really want to destroy everything on your harddisk
19:50<cwood>Question about Iceweasel (Firefox) and that dratted "additional plugins are required to display all the media" message. How do I make that go away, without installing said plugin?
19:50<MattD>the standard ect3 or whatever i just pretty much try to let it do it's thing
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19:52<MattD>i was just wondering if the HD could be shot because i windows that was on it last died
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19:53<chealer>cwood: did you try setting plugins.hide_infobar_for_missing_plugin to true?
19:54<cwood>Why would Windows break your hard drive? I don't know that it would.
19:54<cwood>chealer: I didn't know about that, I will go read up on it now.
19:54<chealer>MattD: what do you mean by a shot HD?
19:55<MattD>the computer is old and i figured that the hard drive could have had something wrong with it and that would have been the reason windows died
19:56<MattD>but i have never had a hard drive go out so i really don't know how they would act
19:57<MattD>i've never had a problem installing debian (done it 4 or 5 times on various desktops) so i figure it is a hardware problem
19:58<MattD>(i mean a bad hard drive by a shot HD) thought if someone had run on to it, it might save me some trial and error
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19:59<petemc>MattD: you can use alt 4 to switch to a terminal which should have some logging, which may tell you whats going on
19:59<petemc>ive seen the installer take what seemed like a long time to create large ext3 partitions
19:59<chealer>MattD: does the HDD pass SMART tests?
20:01<MattD>wow i feel dumb i didn't think of smart testing it
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20:09<LL00>no deblet chan?
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20:10<LL00>oh they are on #maemo
20:11<MattD>well i think i'm going to deal with it tomorrow (got a friend coming that knows more than me)
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20:11<MattD>thanks anyway
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20:12<twb>Can I make Caps Lock a second Control modifier on the console (i.e. not in X)? If so, how?
20:12<Neko>hello
20:12<Neko>can any one here
20:12<twb>Neko: I can hear.
20:13<Neko>give advice on why after
20:13<Neko>i compiled a new kernel
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20:13<Bushmills>neko, fix your return key
20:13<Neko>cd's wont "mount" (i think is the word)
20:13<abrotman>why would you compile your own kernel?
20:14<Neko>i was trying to...to learn
20:14<Neko>i new to debian
20:14<Neko>and linux
20:14<twb>Neko: compiling a kernel is not something a novice should do
20:14<Neko>and my friends said i would never be able to to that
20:14<Bushmills>!tell neko -about enter
20:15<Neko>is that bad?
20:15<Neko>compiling kernels?
20:15<twb>Neko: compiling kernels is usually both difficult and unnecessary.
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20:15<Bushmills>imagine i press enter after every word - would you find it easy to follow what i was saying?
20:16<twb>Bushmills: well
20:16<twb>Bushmills: no
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20:16<Neko>ohh Bushmills...sorry. Wont happen again
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20:17<Neko>anyway i did that i was difficuld, Yes, but kind of fun. I think that i missed something when config-ing the new kernel and now cd's wont "auto" mount
20:18<Bushmills>Neko: what have you installed, to make them automount?
20:18<twb>Bushmills: I'm guessing that newfangled gnome/hal stuff
20:19<Bushmills>neko, if you can mount cds manually, your problem is unlikely to be a kernel problem - automounting cdroms is not kernel task
20:20<Neko>mmmmm i dont know. I installed Debian, then the packages to compile the kernel, then compiled the kernel, then boot, the Celebrate (because it booted and Gnome and everything worked) and when i tryed to install tvtime PLOP cd didn't mount like with the "stock" kernel
20:20<Neko>oh is not kernel task?
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20:21<Bushmills>unless you have some program installed which does that automatical mounting, you'd have to mount cdroms by issuing a mount command
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20:23<Neko>ohhhh...so let me get this straight. Then this program must be installed, right? because a "just intalled" Debian mounts cd's automatically right? the what i have to do is "reconfigure" this program with the new kernel?
20:23<Neko>am i right? am i even more lost?
20:23<twb>Neko: normally a new Debian install will not auto-mount CDs.
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20:23<twb>Neko: probably you chose a "desktop" install, which means GNOME was installed and it will automount stuff
20:24<Bushmills>the three prime candidates for automatically mounting are: gnome desktop environment, kde desktop environment, autofs
20:24<Neko>yes, i have Gnome
20:24<Bushmills>Neko: try to mount your cdrom manually
20:24<Neko>and it loads just fine with the new kernel
20:25<Bushmills>if that fails, chances are you forgot cdrom support in your kernel. if it works, it is unlikely to be a kernel problem
20:25<Neko>that i do that from a terminal..(i think terminal is the right word)
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20:25<Bushmills>right
20:26<Neko>ok mount cd manually, if i google that i should find direction right?
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20:26<Bushmills>i don't know, i haven't google for it. but i suppose so,
20:27<Bushmills>googled ...
20:27<Neko>an other question? mounting a cd is the same as mounting a dvd?
20:27<Bushmills>yes
20:27<twb>Broadly, yes.
20:27<twb>Often DVDs use a different filesystem -- UDF -- which must be supported by the kernel.
20:27<Neko>ok let me check and get back to you
20:28<Neko>ohh, then what about cd-rw, and dvd-rw?
20:28<Bushmills>for reading, the same. for writing, different.
20:29<Neko>i'm sorry to bother you with all this silly quiestion, but is just that it took me so long to compile the kernel, that giving up now is not an option
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20:30<Bushmills>what did you use to compile, and especiall, install the kernel?
20:31<Neko>i used kernel-package
20:31<Bushmills>good the right thing there.
20:31<Neko>i read it was the best thing to do that
20:31<Neko>i tryed to do it for a month with other things
20:31<Neko>and commands
20:32<Neko>but never worked
20:32<Neko>then i found this kernel-package
20:32<Bushmills>nothing wrong with compiling a kernel - usually people do that for a specific reason.
20:32<Neko>Sorry Bushmill....enter again
20:32<Neko>ok
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20:32<Neko>i found this package and it worked!
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20:36<Neko>well...look i just checked and it turns out that it mounts CD's but no DVD's
20:36<Neko>:|
20:36<Neko>:>
20:37<Neko>and if i remember well, i never selected UDF (or anything like that) when config-ing the kernel
20:37<Bushmills>do grep -i udf /usr/src/<your_kernel_dir>/.config
20:37<Neko>wait
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20:37<Neko>in a terminal right?
20:37<Bushmills>yes
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20:39<Neko>mmmm the src directory is empy
20:40<Bushmills>wherever your kernel sources are
20:40<Neko>ohhhhhh
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20:41<Neko>i typed this: grep -i udf /home/neko/Desktop/linux-2-6-27-6 , and the responce is nothing
20:41<Neko>is that bad?
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20:42<Bushmills>no, just wrong command
20:42<Neko>ohh i missed the ./config
20:42<Neko>sorry
20:43<abrotman>isn't there a kernel help channel ?
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20:44<Neko>Oh yes...i'm so sorry.....thanks for your help
20:44<Neko>:( sorry i bothered you so long...but THANKS AGAIN! :)
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21:09<ptr>so, one of the two sata controllers in this one box failed. Replaced the motherboard, brought it up again, and mdadm informs me that four of the eight disks in the raid5 are 'non-fresh'. Am I likely to get away with reassembling the array with --force, or am I f**ked?
21:11<cwood>Doing things for a learning experience is a great idea -- and compiling a kernel is one of them.
21:11<abrotman>so is self-reliance :)
21:12<abrotman>!fish
21:12<dpkg>"Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate. Instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, ask us which docs to read, read them, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered. Also the "Friendly Interactive SHell", a non-POSIX compatible replacement shell: http://fishshell.org
21:13<ptr>you're right, of course
21:13<ptr>*sigh*. Sorry, all
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21:14<anarcat>hi
21:14<anarcat>so i've just upgraded my server to lenny just now and now 'su' gives me 'module unknown'
21:14<anarcat>it seems like i screwed up pam somehow
21:15<anarcat>ok, i see, it's the kerberos modules that are screwed up
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21:19<anarcat>was missing libpam-krb5... funny
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21:24<kop>How do I setup my system so that plugging in a usb key makes it automatically mount?
21:24<kop>I'm running etch.
21:26<abrotman>!tell kop about automount
21:27<kop>abrotman : Thanks. I think I want usbmount.
21:27<abrotman>if you say so!
21:28<kop>abrotman : I want mounting without having to run a desktop. I suppose bad things may happen if I _do_ run a desktop and try to automount, so maybe I just won't do that. :-)
21:29<abrotman>or they just all try to mount it!
21:29<kop>abrotman : What happens if you try to mount the same device twice?
21:29<abrotman>the device is busy ..
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21:40<LL00>by defaut, iptables policy for INPUT it's drop?
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21:43<LL00>ok I see with -L
21:44<Bushmills>LL00: or think. was it DROP - were you able to internet?
21:45<LL00>hum my soundcore modules are back :(
21:45<LL00>blacklist soundcore
21:45<LL00>blacklist snd_pcm
21:45<LL00>blacklist snd_page_alloc
21:45<LL00>but there are loaded
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21:49<LL00>Bushmills, I forgot my iptable script put INPUT policy for DROP
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21:50<LL00>Bushmills, so you know how to not load sound kernel module when debian start?
21:50<Bushmills>that's not default. that's your custom policy
21:50<LL00>yep
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21:51<LL00>I put soundcore in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
21:51<LL00>and this module still loaded
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21:53<LL00>1st what load these sound modules?
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21:59<starnull>so when i start a game it goes fullscreen to 1024x768. i added a 2nd monitor and i'd like to be able to have the game take up one screen while the other screen remains available for whatever. i got it to work once, but it stopped after a reboot. any ideas?
22:00<starnull>also, if there is a xorg or nvidia channel anyone knows of link me.
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22:01<starnull>...and let me know if i miss anything. my client keeps disconnecting.
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22:10<rutski>what's that debian package manager related tool that installs groups of packages
22:11<rutski>like "Desktop", "Mail Server", "Base System", etc..
22:11<RIVE>tasksel
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22:11<rutski>you get during at the installer; but I recall being able to get it after boot too
22:11<rutski>ah, yea; that's it, thanks
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22:29<starnull>dr|z3d
22:30<dr|z3d>?
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22:43<gsimmons>twb: (re caps->ctrl modifier) If you have 'console-setup' installed, append ",ctrl:nocaps" to the value of the XKBOPTIONS parameter in /etc/default/console-setup, then invoke-rc.d console-setup restart. Otherwise this can be achieved via the /etc/console-tools/remap sed script.
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22:43<gef>starnull, #nvidia on irc.freenode.net might be helpful
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22:49<twb>gsimmons: thanks!
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23:16<LL00>which file load sound modules? snd soundcore,...
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23:27<mitchell>what is the best way to lock down a user in a ssh session?
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23:35<rutski>what exactly is the difference between a login shell and a non-login shell?
23:36<rutski>is it a bash only concept; or a UNIX concept in general?
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23:37<cwood>iirc the main difference is that a login shell parses all its config files, whereas a non-login shell reads from a lesser set, and likely inherits much more environment from its parent
23:37<cwood>But i'm not that informed, do your own research, etc.
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23:39<rutski>yea, I am
23:39<rutski>I'm looking at the bash man page
23:39<rutski>the claim is that if the shell is login+interactive then you get ~/.profile and such
23:39<cwood>This being Debian, you could always download a bunch of shells and read them man pages for comparison purposes.
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23:39<rutski>if it's (interactive)+(non-login) then you get ~/.bashrc and such
23:39<rutski>if it's (non-interactive)+(non-login) then you don't get anything
23:40<rutski>the trouble is that I'm puzzling about when ~/.bashrc would ever get used
23:40<rutski>when would you ever have an interactive non-login shell?
23:40<rutski>what's even the point of having a separate concept called a "login" shell?
23:40<rutski>it's an interactive shell by definition a login shell?
23:40<cwood>I think you're overthinking this a bit.
23:40<rutski>oh, hmm; one off remote command execution comes to mind
23:41<cwood>Remember that many times when an application does something, it uses a shell to run the command.
23:41<cwood>Perl's system() comes to mind.
23:41<cwood>That would be a non-interactive, non-login shell.
23:43<rutski>indeed, and that makes complete sense
23:44<rutski>but that's not what's in question
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23:44<rutski>what's in question is when you'd have a shell that's (interactive)+(non-login)
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23:46<cwood>I suppose the answer is, "because the people who wrote bash want it that way, if you don't want it that way use another shell".
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23:46<rutski>actually expect is coming to mind
23:47<cwood>So the concept of login shell comes up in "man tcsh" as well.
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23:49<cwood>As to the question "the trouble is that I'm puzzling about when ~/.bashrc would ever get used" ... in Debian, at least, if you're running a desktop environment and open a terminal when bash is your shell in /etc/passwd, the user-configurable config and commands are read from $HOME/.bashrc.
23:49<rutski>ah, indeed
23:49<cwood>ksh has the concept of a login shell too.
23:49<rutski>ah, hmm; I'll have to play with that
23:49<rutski>I wonder if different terminal emulators do it differently too
23:50<cwood>Sounds like an excellent question, likely also answered in the man pages.
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23:51<rutski>indeed, yea
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