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---Logopened Mon Dec 15 00:00:38 2008
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00:07<bighornram>How can I ensure that gtk executeables use 64-bit gtk libraries? I have lag on gtkpod and appears that maybe it might be using 32-bit libraries. Any ideas?
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00:11<camel__>abrotman: you might want to change those commands: only aptitude reinstall '~i' attempts to reinstall anything already installed
00:12<camel__>the others will only install things that aren't already there
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00:12<camel__>abrotman: worse yet, aptitude reinstall '~i' doesn't actually work (fails with an "internal error") it seems to be a known bug, so that's that
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00:12<camel__>anyway. maybe i'll have better luck another day/year ;)
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01:03<Supaplex>!bore guo
01:03<dpkg>"guo, here we are in the sausage factory; the sausages rest on the smoking racks before being cured..."
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01:04<Supaplex>guo: do you have a debian question?
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01:07<thunder>Supaplex: If i want to get a job on Linux, what should i to have, that's what should i to learn?
01:07<guo>rays linux
01:08<thunder>what's that?
01:08<Supaplex>thunder: read the job postings that ask for Linux background, and go from there.
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01:12<thunder>Supaplex: thanks! i'm graduated only 1years, so , when knowing Linux, i want to do something on it, but i really don't know how and what to do..
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01:13<thunder>and also really confused..
01:13<Supaplex>!tell thunder -about grounding
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01:39<D1ablo>ewww ahhhh
01:40<D1ablo>anyone has experience running debian in cluster mode?
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01:49<eric>eweb100 hi
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01:59<D1ablo>interesting :-)
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02:00<D1ablo>got 5 ibm eserver am going to cluster them :-)
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02:01<Thepns>can someone tell me a good place to get help building a program when make returns an error?
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02:04<jm_>start by reading the output
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02:05<Supaplex>D1ablo: only with heartbeat-2
02:06<Supaplex>Thepns: what are you building, and why isn't apt-get good enough?
02:06<Thepns>yeah, it's only telling my that a file doesn't exist that the linker wants
02:07<Supaplex>Thepns: apt-cache search cdrkit shows wodim, genisoimg, icedax and cdrkit-doc. aptitude show cdrkit-doc suggests genisoimage already satisfies all you're after.
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02:10<Thepns>the machine is solaris 2.8 so that's why i was asking for a place that can help with builds. the cdrkit group in this IRC server is pretty useless
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02:12<Thepns>so i jumped to the largest group to find some experts
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02:14<chealer>Thepns: then #cdrkit, yeah
02:14<Supaplex>well, we're not solaris. if you had debian installed, you could apt-file search that missing file, or apt-get build-dep <package> to install -dev and related dependencies
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02:14<Supaplex>chealer: he wants to install debain. really. :) heh heh
02:16<jm_>so tell the linker where to find it
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02:19<Thepns>i did a find for the file and it can't locate it, so I'm thinking it's not building the file.
02:20<jm_>which file?
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02:23<Thepns>i can paste up the compiler output if that'll help you jm_
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02:23<jm_>Thepns: use a pastebin
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02:29<Karzy>so i'm having the most bizarre problem with postfix, I can receive mail fine to local users, however if I have a gmail address defined in a .forward file, the messages only get forwarded to gmail successfully if they originate on the machine, not from the outside world.. anyone got any idea why that would happen?
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02:31<jm_>Thepns: Error running link command: No such file or directory
02:31<Thepns>you tested a non-gmail address then?
02:33<Thepns>yeah, but the find [cdrkit directory] -name libunls.a didn't find it so I it's not getting built. Do you agree with that assessment or is there something else?
02:34<Karzy>Thepns: thanks.. that helped me get it
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02:35<Thepns>Karzy: seriously?
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02:49<jm_>it's not getting built because the link command is failing
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02:56<Thepns>jm_ thanks for the help. it's like 3am here so i'll be going to sleep
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03:10<nikeah>hey I am on a friends laptop running Intrepid and it is on a Toshiba Satellite Celeron 2.6 Ghz with Trident Video Chipset... I tried editing the xorg but all I can get is 800x600 is there a way to force it to get 1024x768 or 1280x1024 I know trident sucks but XP can do 1280x1024
03:11<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
03:11<nikeah>oops wrongchannel
03:12<Supaplex>you can still install debian ;)
03:12<Karzy>Thep: Seriously..
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03:13<thunder>modify the xconfig file
03:13<thunder>nikeah: modify the xconfig file
03:13<thunder>add some screenresolvent
03:14<nikeah>yes but with a modeline?
03:14<Supaplex>thunder: it's offtopic here. join #ubuntu to help someone running ubuntu, or #linux
03:15<thunder>i forget this channel is DEBIan.
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03:26<Supaplex>!ops Speedlight spam
03:26<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: supaplex complains about: Speedlight spam
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03:39<debacle>Hi all, is there any apache2 expert here ? i'm getting this error launching apache [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
03:39<debacle>How can i discover where is the eror ?
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03:43<debacle>kp: thank you
03:44<kp>debacle: yw
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03:52<FILLVAIO2>Hi guys
03:52<Robodo>ïðèâåò ) åñòü êòî ñ Ðîñèè? :)
03:52<Robodo>ôàíòàñòèøü )
03:52<FILLVAIO2>i think there we must talk in eng
03:52<Robodo>no good ideas )
03:53<FILLVAIO2>until we will banned ;) i think
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03:54<FILLVAIO2>Hello again. Guys, all night i finding the way to downgrade libc6 unstable to stable? is there any guaranted way that don't crash my server?
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03:55<amarsh04>FILLVAIO2, Debian is the only GNU/Linux distribution that will allow you to change your glibc version without rebooting
03:56<amarsh04>just have both stable and unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list and choose the older version of glibc 6 using aptitude
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04:03<FILLVAIO2><amarsh04> But if that machine is remote server? How to do that without loosing terminal connection?
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04:14<larsus>Hi! Anyone know where the http log appears when running ssh -D and SOCKS?
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04:16<larsus>ls -ltr /var/log show that only syslogs is touched,
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04:18<larsus>Sadox: seems like the auth.log only log session info,
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04:19<Sadox>i though this was what you were looking for
04:19<Sadox>Dec 15 11:12:37 Sadox sshd[19911]: Server listening on :: port 22.
04:19<Sadox>Dec 15 11:12:37 Sadox sshd[19911]: Server listening on port 22.
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04:20<larsus>Sadox: Ye, thanks, but I ment the http log/visit log
04:21<Sadox>i did read wrong... sorry
04:22<polywaffle>anyone want to test ekiga with me?
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04:22<larsus>Sadox: not at all, my bad description,
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04:28<[gloom]>I'm having problems unpacking the package "ffmpeg" in sid repo, for amd64
04:29-!-mode/#debian [+l 358] by debhelper
04:29<[gloom]>What could I do to fix it? Use another repo might help?
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04:31<Sadox>[gloom] what error do you have?
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04:33<[gloom]>well its not in english, but I can translate it: Unpacking ffmeg, preinst called with unknown argument 'install'. Error while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ffmpeg_3%3a20081210-0.0_amd64.deb (--unpack):
04:33<Sadox>dpkg -i ffmpeg_package.deb
04:33*dpkg installs ffmpeg_package.deb into sadox's head with a bone saw and a few screws
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04:34<Sadox>if you used apt-get try a dpkg --configure -a
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04:34<[gloom]>yes, using dselect here.
04:34<[gloom]>the configure options shows the same error
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04:35<Sadox>well try use the dpkg manualy for the ffmepg package to install it
04:35<[gloom]>I mean, the package is not installed, so nothing to configure there.
04:35<Sadox>i never used dselect... i don't know what's the "business" with it :P
04:35<[gloom]>from the apt-get cache
04:35<[gloom]>same thing
04:36<Supaplex>[gloom]: what's on bts?
04:36<Sadox>[gloom] well then try using apt-get install ffmpeg
04:37<kostja>can somebody tell I right here to place so questions about debian?
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04:37<Supaplex>kostja: you are
04:37<Sadox>kolter yes.. ask here and if somebody can help you it will answer
04:37<[gloom]>Sadox: done it, same thing
04:37<[gloom]>Supaplex: cheked it, no related bug
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04:38<Supaplex>[gloom]: what differences are there from this version to a previous one?
04:38<Supaplex>humm nearly 3am here. maybe I better get shut eye.
04:38<[gloom]>Supaplex: not much
04:39<[gloom]>Supaplex: but i would say that this erros is related to the packaging process, isn't it?
04:40<kostja>I have a simple problem...I made apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday...after a restart my mouse does not working...the log file tells that the mouse module does not exist...but if I tipe cat /dev/input/mice the console shows some what can I do?
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04:40<Sadox>[gloom] so it seems but it says there that argument install is unknown and also is reffering to the package being kept into /var/cache/apt/archives maybe if you try dpkg -i ffmpeg_package.deb you will have different result
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04:41<[gloom]>done it. same thing
04:41<[gloom]>I'm going to file a bug report
04:41<Sadox>:| it doesn't come into my head what could be wrong... sorry that i can't help you more right now
04:41<Supaplex>[gloom]: possibly. sid only guarantees the package was created.
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04:42<Supaplex>try installing the one from testing, and if that works, binary search if you want to expose exactly why it broke
04:42<Sadox>kostja you have to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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04:43<craigevil>kostja: what release are you running? on testing or sid you probably just need to install xserver-xorg-input-mouse or xserver-xorg-input-evdev
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04:44<kostja>@Sadox yes, I am doing this (modify) the whole morning...I also tried othe drivers and protocols
04:45<kostja>@craigevil OK, I will try
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04:45<[gloom]>thanks guys. see yu later
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04:46<Sadox>kostja sorry to hear that... if you have the packages mentioned by craigevil maybe you should simply try a X -configure
04:47<kostja>@craigevil the packages are now installed, but the mouse is still not working
04:47<Sadox>you have to restart Xorg
04:47<kostja>I am using 2.6.22-2-amd64
04:48<kostja>aaaa, ok
04:48<sheldonh>meh. so i use debian-unofficial for bladeenc and that's it. g'bye
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04:51<kostja>THANKS TO YOU ALL...THE PROBLEM WAS the missing packages xserver-xorg-input-mouse and xserver-xorg-input-evdev
04:52<craigevil>good :)
04:52<Sadox>kostja i'm glad the problem is solved
04:52<kostja>buy, I wish you all a happy day ;)
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04:58<debacle>can any one help me undestanging the meaning of this NETFILTER log line please ?
04:58<debacle>Dec 14 10:00:33 debian kernel: [1669220.918254] INPUT_INVALID-DROP:IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:13:c8:a0:a1:b1:08:00 SRC= DST= LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=0 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=43790 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 ACK SYN URGP=0
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04:59<debacle>it seems netfilet is dropping syn acks ... it this true ?
04:59<debacle>it seems netfilter is dropping syn acks ... it this true ?
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05:01<debacle>firewall lines are iptables -A INPUT -m state --state INVALID -m limit --limit 1/s --limit-burst 1 -j LOG --log-prefix INPUT_INVALID-DROP:
05:01<debacle> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state INVALID -j DROP
05:01<debacle>can anyone help please ?
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05:03<blarson>What filesystem do you recomend for many small files? Is ext3 with 1kbyte allocation and lots of inodes good enough? (Around 100 million files.) Not a disaster if I loose the partition, but it does take several days to load.
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05:04<Gekz|mib>guys, I want usb sticks and such to automatically connect when using any arbitrary window manager
05:04<Baggy2>Hi all! My cusom debian kernel hangs during startup at the following line "db: max requested size: 128KiB" after that it freezes. What driver might be causing this?
05:04<Gekz|mib>what packages do i need/
05:05<debacle>blarson: reiserfs seems to be very fast with small files ... but it not a robust filesystem ... i'have a proxy and i'm running on ext3 ... reiserfs became corrupted on very heavy load in my case
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05:08<blarson>debacle: I'll go with ext3 rather than anything considered "not robust". Why it takes days to load is all the seeking writing little bits of files.
05:08<petern>i had corruption with reiserfs, but that was an older version
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05:12<frunsk>hi im trying to clone an ide partion over ssh into a sata hd... any ideas?
05:13<jm_>I have many (stupid) ideas
05:13<debacle>frunsk: what about using tar ?
05:14<frunsk>is it possible to just dd into the device?
05:14<RichiH>frunsk: yes
05:14<blarson>frunsk: Yes, but not recomended.
05:15<RichiH>frunsk: if you have xfs, there is a better way, though
05:15<koollman>frunsk: it is possible. but incredibly slow. and you would need to understand what it does
05:15<frunsk>the question is after i dd into it ... how do i use the available HD space
05:15<frunsk>RichiH, xfs ?
05:15<RichiH>frunsk: dd only works (reliably) if the disks/partitions are the same size
05:15<RichiH>frunsk: the file system
05:15<blarson>frunsk: I'd use dump (of an unmouted filesystem) piped to restore.
05:15<debacle>frunsk: if you need to preserve special attributes you can also use star
05:15<petern>you'd be better off using tar
05:16<koollman>frunsk: just make the correct partitions and then use tar or something similar to do the file copying
05:16<frunsk>so if i make the partitions of the same size it will work?
05:17<frunsk>the other question is can i read off a mounted fs (and keep working with it)?
05:17<blarson>If you use tar or cpio, remember the options for device nodes (if any), symbolic and hard links, etc.
05:17<koollman>frunsk: hmm. DO, NOT, USE, DD. simple ? :)
05:18<burdock>Dose it have to be a cloned image? Have you considered rsync?
05:18<blarson>frunsk: Definatly don't dd a mounted fs.
05:18<debacle>frunsk: can't remember exactly but i had used (many times ago) a distro called clonezilla it was able to clone partitions (block per block or file per file) even via ssh ... you should give a search on google anyway
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05:19<frunsk>debacle, im using debian live
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05:24<frunsk>what if i just use scp -pr / remote_ip:mounted_target ?
05:25<frunsk>and then adjust grub etc so that it pix up sda instead of hda?
05:26<debacle>frunsk: scp can work ... anyway i'll use tar or star
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05:28<frunsk>debacle, u mean tar to a temporary location and then untar?
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05:28<debacle>frunsk: yes
05:29<frunsk>i don't have a temporary location
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05:30<blarson>frunsk: tar works fine to pipes. tar cf - whatever | ssh remote tar xf -
05:31<debacle>well : you only have to try ...
05:33<frunsk>blarson, isn't that the same as enabling the -C (compression) parameter in scp?
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05:36<blarson>frunsk: c is create, not compress.
05:37<debacle>frunsk: keep in mind using scp you will loose owner/group of every file you will send to remote machine (user and group will became your remote machine login user/group)
05:37<frunsk>blarson, "scp -C"
05:38<koollman>you will not lose these information, if you ssh as root to the remote host
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05:50<bcochofel>what's the minimal package to have a X11 server on etch? I mean, do I only need to install xserver-xorg and fluxbox?
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05:56<Knight_Lord>I just installed amarok in my computer and it doesn't start. The splashscreen shows up and then nothing. Does anyone know what it could be?
05:56<jm_>bcochofel: you'll need much more than that
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05:59<sheldonh>awe. pam_radius_auth only does authentication, no session stuff :(
05:59<bcochofel>jm_: ok, then what are the minimum packages to have a working X11?
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06:03<jm_>bcochofel: actually that will cut it, but it will install a lot of it, I'd start with individual server and input packages
06:04<jm_>Knight_Lord: start it from a terminal
06:05<Knight_Lord>jm_ that's what i'm doing
06:05<jm_>Knight_Lord: and you don't see any messages?
06:05<Knight_Lord>Amarok: [Loader] Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
06:05<Knight_Lord>this is the only message
06:06<jm_>what's its exit code?
06:06<Knight_Lord>No exit
06:06<Knight_Lord>it's stuck
06:06<Knight_Lord>Attaching gdb i see it's stuck in a nanosleep
06:06<Knight_Lord>nanosleep -> usleep -> SqliteConnection::query -> CollectionDB::query
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06:07<jm_>hmm then perhaps check BTS or their own bugtracker
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06:08<Knight_Lord>jm_ thansk
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06:09<jm_>there's also #debian-kde
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06:12<Knight_Lord>rm -rf .kde/share/apps/amarok/ did the trick
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06:12<jm_>useful :P
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06:23<D1ablo>supaplex> heartbeat does clustering?
06:24<D1ablo>oh dear
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06:33<mihkel>Hi, I can use tab completion as normal user. Eg aptitude sear<tab>, but not when I am root?
06:33<mihkel>How can I make root th behave the same way
06:33<mihkel>and btw I haven't changed my bashrc
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06:35<mihkel>I asked too soon
06:35<mihkel>just uncomment a section in /etc/bash.bashrc
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06:58<_Solitude>I have Audigy 2 NX and debian distr., PCM is working but I'm unable to enable MIDI. /proc/asound/devices doesn't contain any raw midi. Can anyone help me please?
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07:00<jm_>hmm I never tried using midi with audigy 2
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07:02<_Solitude>And where I may find out if snd-usb-audio.ko (which is supposed to handle Audigy 2 NX) supports MIDI for this card?
07:02<jm_>ahh this is external USB card?
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07:04<petern>uh, does that have midi ports?
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07:05<_Solitude>By MIDI I mean HW WaveTable synthesis with sf2 banks, I don't need to manage external MIDI device. SB Audigy 2 NX has wave table synth
07:06<jm_> has nothing much
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07:08<petern>are you sure it's hardware wavetable?
07:09<_Solitude>thanx, but I'm browsing web since yesterday morning and I tried most of the stuff except compiling snd-usb-audio by myself
07:09<_Solitude>I'm sure
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07:11<sheldonh>does pam offer a module that insists on a minimum uid?
07:12<_Solitude>sheldonh: if you are asking me, I have no idea what do you mean
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07:12<sheldonh>_Solitude: nope, thrown to the floor :)
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07:18<petern>mmm, alsa doesn't list it as having wavetable, but that may just mean unsupported
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07:19<petern>not much is said about usb midi anyway, however
07:20<_Solitude>alsa doesn't list it where? how did you get this info please?
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07:23<_Solitude>hmm.. I was on this page yesterday, but I didn't realize that there is no [wavetble] field because I was very very angry :)
07:23<Markus23>sudo ntpdate says "no servers can be used, exiting" even though NTPDATE_USE_NTP_CONF=yes and NTPSERVERS is set
07:24<_Solitude>so this means that it's not supported for this card, so I'm not lucky man :(
07:24<Markus23>the problem is there since lenny upgrade, any idea?
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07:25<Markus23>/etc/ntp.conf has the default entries server iburst and so on
07:25<Markus23>(i think they are default)
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07:28<Markus23>sudo ntpdate timeserver works without problems
07:29<Markus23>ohh, my fault, sudo ntpdate-debian works as expected
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07:32<D1ablo>me think is going to have fun with heartbeat-2
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07:33*D1ablo going to hit the sac
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07:34<_Solitude>thanx for help people!!!! see ya
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07:34<Cloffy>My Lenny on Acer TM2420 with Broadcom 4318 wireless card won't find access points. I'm new to this and just might be doing everything wrong or skipping basic steps. How do I start up my wifi connection?
07:34<iwkse>hi, anybody tested ?
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07:35<iwkse>i wonder if it works, last time i checked the stick couldn't be mounted
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07:36<Cloffy>with a 2.6.26 kernel by wi-fi card should be supported by default, I guess, but I don't know how to fire it up
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07:39<dpkg>rumour has it, bcm43xx is a driver for Broadcom's non-USB wireless chipsets ( included in Linux since 2.6.17-rc2. For Etch with 2.6.18 kernel, "modprobe bcm43xx". Firmware required to be loaded before operation, ask me about <bcm43xx-fwcutter>. Deprecated by <b43> and <b43legacy> in Linux 2.6.24 and later. Disabled in Debian 2.6.24+ Linux images and removed from mainline in 2.6.26.
07:39<gsimmons>Cloffy: You'll need to supply the b43 driver with firmware (via b43-fwcutter) if you haven't already done so.
07:40<Cloffy>ok, gsimmons, thx, I started doing that just now
07:40<Cloffy>but I got stuck a bit
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07:41<gsimmons>Cloffy: details the procedure involved.
07:42<Cloffy>oh, thx
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07:47<Cloffy>gsimmons: but it's not the DRIVER that I want, but Firmware, right?
07:47<Cloffy>because the driver is in the kernel now
07:47<gsimmons>Cloffy: That's right. You already have the b43 driver.
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07:48<Cloffy>do you know the procedure? I mean - do you know if my problem has to do with the wind$y .sys file?
07:51<gsimmons>Cloffy: I'm familiar with it, but I'm not sure what you are attempting to do. Installing the Debian 'b43-fwcutter' package from contrib will fetch/extract the firmware for you, subject to your approval (and available Internet connection).
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07:53<apostle>did the linux kernel latest recently change for Debian Lenny?
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07:59<larsus>apostle: apt-history?
07:59<And1>Hmm, when I resize an urxvt, using compositing with xcompmgr, my X crashes when I release the mouse-button after resizing my window. :-o
08:00<And1>X.log or gdm.log contain no errors.
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08:01<sheldonh>apostle: yes: 2.6.26+16 -> 2.6.26+17
08:02<larsus>apostle: or just $cd /var/cache/apt/archives && ls -ltr
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08:02<larsus>apostle: or just listen to sheldonh :)
08:02<OdyX>AFAIK, the change from +16 to +17 is no change in kernel's version (meta-package only for most…)
08:03<sheldonh>OdyX: he didn't ask if it had changed upstream version :)
08:03<OdyX>true ;)
08:04<OdyX>but there is even no Debian version change in the non-meta binary package
08:04<sheldonh>good point
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08:19<Woet>How do you get the CPU speed in Debian?
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08:19<Woet>and cores?
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08:19<Woet>command doesn't exist, neither does the package
08:19<dpkg>*** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude.
08:20<jm_>but perhaps you are after /proc/cpuinfo
08:20<Woet>that helps :)
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08:22<larsus>Woet: note that most modern CPUs have stepping :) Use a system monitor for more details on your cpu
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08:23<Woet>I just needed the modelname
08:23<Woet>but thanks
08:23<larsus>Woet: "Woet How do you get the CPU speed in Debian?"
08:23<Woet>yea, but the model name tells me it
08:23<apostle>how to I update my apt-cache?
08:24<Woet>apt-get update
08:24<sheldonh>larsus: try less /proc/cpuinfo
08:24<sheldonh>didn't read back enough, sorry
08:24<Cloffy>I have this peculiar problem: I installed Debian on a flash drive, but running from it causes sudden death-freezes. I think that is because the flash drive get's too hot (?), and if that is the case, then I should find a way to make it cooler. One thing would be less I/O. How could I make Debian write to disk less? It keeps writing something every couple of seconds.
08:25<sheldonh>Cloffy: try laptop-mode-tools
08:25<sheldonh>Cloffy: but just to see what it does
08:26<Cloffy>ok... let's go and see
08:26*Cloffy goes to check his laptop
08:26<apostle>my apt-cache keeps returning linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 - Linux 2.6.26
08:26<jm_>Cloffy: it's most probably because you have a flash drive with slow writes, the above recomemndation will help (plus prolong its lifetime)
08:26<apostle>is this the latest? I don't think so ?
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08:26<adb>apostle: Y
08:26<sheldonh>Cloffy: basically, there's a few sysctls to reduce the frequency of disk io, at the expense of increasing risk of data loss
08:27<apostle>adb, 2.6.26+16 -> 2.6.26+17 is this not the latest?
08:27<jm_>and make sure you mount your fs with noatime - those tools probably suggest it
08:27<sheldonh>Cloffy: there are flash-oriented filesystems that help too, but i'm not sure how well supported they are as the fs you boot off
08:27<Cloffy>sheldonh: I loose data all the time because of the reboots I have to do :p jm_ : no, I have a high-speed flash
08:28<adb>judd: versions linux-image
08:28<judd>adb: linux-image --
08:28<adb>judd: versions linux-image-2.6.26
08:28<judd>adb: linux-image-2.6.26 --
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08:28<apostle>judd, what should my apt-cache return for latest kernel image for debian lenny?
08:28<judd>apostle: Error: "what" is not a valid command.
08:29<sheldonh>new bot?
08:29<jm_>Cloffy: which one?
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08:31<Cloffy>jm_: Super Talent pico-c
08:31<burdock>Cloffy: less swaping "echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness"
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08:31<Cloffy>burdock: it's not swapping
08:31<Cloffy>RAM handles it all
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08:32<jm_>Cloffy: yes that's a slow one
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08:32<Cloffy>jm_: so?
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08:32<jm_>Cloffy: really, start with those tools and use noatime
08:33<Knight_Lord>Is it possible to get libm with debug symbols? I would like to use oprofile to know which functions are taking 30% of the runtime of my program.
08:34<Cloffy>I'll have to quit this chat to plug my laptop to the internet
08:34<jm_>man mount /noatime
08:34<Cloffy>jm_, ok, thanks, I'll check that out
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08:35<Cloffy>jm_, how do apply the noatime option to the system partition?
08:35<jm_>Cloffy: fstab?
08:36<Cloffy>and what does it do?
08:36<Cloffy>I red the MAN page
08:36<Cloffy>but still
08:36<Cloffy>in real life....
08:36<jm_>and I think kernel also knows some parameters like relatime etc.
08:36<jm_>it won't cause a write on every read
08:36<Woet>is it possible to look at the age of hardware? (harddisk/cpu)
08:36<Knight_Lord>Is it possible to get LD_LIBRARY_PATH to be used before things like /lib?
08:36<Woet>and the install time of debian?
08:36<jm_>Woet: for disk yes
08:37<jm_>Knight_Lord: yes
08:37<Knight_Lord>I would like to use the libc6-dbg and i can't see any other way to do it
08:38<Knight_Lord>I did the appropriate setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH but when i run ldd on the binary of interest it still shows that it's linking againt /lib
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08:38<Woet>jm_: I meant like.. how?
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08:39<FILLVAIO2>Sorry for repeating. But maybe anybody is here had some problem as me. Guys, all night i finding the way to downgrade libc6 unstable to stable? is there any guaranted way that don't crash my server?
08:39<jm_>Woet: smartctl
08:39<jm_>Knight_Lord: you need to preload it
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08:40<Knight_Lord>jm_ it seems that oprofile got the symbols even though ldd didn't so it's okay :)
08:41<jm_>Knight_Lord: you shouldn't need to use debug libraries for oprofile
08:41<Knight_Lord>jm_ i found out __ieee754_exp was the culprit which i guess is just another name for exp(3)
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08:41<Knight_Lord>jm_ i wanted to know the name of the function inside of libm
08:41<jm_>Knight_Lord: most likely yes, one of the exp variants
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08:48<Woet>How to get the install time of Debian?
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08:51<apostle>I apologize...I'm confused....The latest kernel for Debian Lenny is....Linux elijah 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP correct
08:54<sheldonh>apostle: yes, although that doesn't show bugfix version increments
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08:55<apostle>sheldonh, thanks thats my confusion
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08:57<sheldonh>apostle: dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 gives me version 2.6.26-11
08:57<sheldonh>apostle: 2.6.26-1-686 is not part of the package version, it's part of the package name :)
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09:01<sander_m>Hello. Does anyone know something about converting DocBook XML to PDF? I have installed the docbook-xsl and fop packages and it works nicely, but fop refuses to use images for the admonitions (tip, note, warning). I keep getting SEVERE: Cannot read image dimensions: url(images/warning.png) - SEVERE: Error while loading image: null
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09:03<apostle>model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
09:03<apostle> here is my processor
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09:03<apostle>and my kernel ii linux-image-2. 2.6.26-11 Linux 2.6.26 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
09:04<apostle>sheldonh, this look like the wrong architecture and also not the latest kernel?
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09:04<superjet_busy>sander_m: it's the png there?
09:04<sheldonh>apostle: you can run i386 debian on amd64 processors fine
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09:05<apostle>sheldonh, should I change this kernel then....any advice as to how to get the latest bug fixed version
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09:06<Woet>Is it possible to get the install time of debian?
09:06<sander_m>superjet_busy: I have symlinked the images/ directory to /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheets/nwalsh/images/ where the images are. Didn't work. I have also tried setting the variable for the XSL to file:///usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheets/nwalsh/images/ but again, no luck.
09:07<kie27>greets from HK, just bought a dlink dcs2121 ip cam, plugged it into the network, tried to configure it but it crashes firefox, and it doesn't like epiphany much better, any advice? (apart from throwing it in the trash and never buying another dlink product)
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09:08<sander_m>superjet_busy: The intermediae .fo file says: <fo:external-graphic src="url(images/note.png)" ... /> or <fo:external-graphic src="url(file:///usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheets/nwalsh/images/note.png)" ... /> so that seems correct.
09:09<superjet_busy>sander_m: it's a little strange
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09:11<sander_m>superjet_busy: Yup. Do you have a Docbook toolchain? I'd be happy to send you the docbook xml and the commands I use to generate the PDF so you can try for yourself.
09:11<superjet_busy>sander_m: have you tried convert into such as html? or tried with jadetex
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09:13<sander_m>superjet_busy: I haven't tried HTML but I don't expect any problems there. It doesn't actually use the graphics for HTML. It just generated an <img /> tag. I did try jadetex (through the xmlto package) but that did not work for me. I get a ton of "overfull hbox" errors and no PDF.
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09:14<superjet_busy>sander_m: those convert tools installed in my other box, I can convert it for you tomorrow if you send it
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09:16<Cloffy>I have installed firmware for my bcm4318 wi-fi card but I can't get on wireless still - WiFi Radar shows no access points
09:18<gsimmons>Cloffy: Raise the interface (eg. ifconfig wlan0 up) and use iwlist instead (eg. iwlist wlan0 scan). Examine dmesg for any errors.
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09:18<kie27>in fact it looks like the java plugin/applet is the one crashing firefox
09:18<sander_m>superjet_busy: I'd appreciate that. I have uploaded it at which contains the docbook xml file, a Makefile that contains the commands I use to generate the PDF and a textfile with my e-mail address in it.
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09:19<phrhd>hi, i have problems setting up openafs-client on debian lenny
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09:19<phrhd>i am using this guide:
09:20<HeLLborN>sorry ignore me
09:20<phrhd>back to the problem:
09:21<superjet_busy>sander_m: ok, I'll contact you after convertion
09:21<phrhd>when I try to run make-kpkg --append_to_version -XXX modules_image
09:21<phrhd>i et the following error message:
09:21<phrhd>The modules_* targets should be called from a fully configured source tree,
09:21<phrhd> and one where at least make-kpkg debian has been run
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09:22<sander_m>superjet_busy: Thank you :-)
09:22<superjet_busy>sander_m: also you may leave me message by crewlay at gmail dot com :)
09:23<sander_m>superjet_busy: I've noted it down. Thanks again, I hope you can make it work!
09:24<superjet_busy>sander_m: me too ;-)
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09:51<FoxM>Hi. I am looking for a simple KDE application that just notify me about mails that arrive at an account. I do not need to retrieve the mails, I just need to know that a mail has arrived. Any suggestions?
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09:53<Lenhix>I had a mIRC script that did that, but KDE apps I don't know
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09:58<stevecotton>FoxM: kbiff looks likely, haven't tried it myself
09:59*stevecotton uses xbiff
09:59<FoxM>stevecotton: thanks! I am checking it
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10:01<ccote>alguien español ??
10:02<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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10:05<dpkg>If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user.
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10:06<chandu>I want to use wildcard char "*" in chroot command line
10:06<chandu>I am giving the cmd like this , "chroot install-dir ls sbin/*"
10:06<Lenhix>ccote: english here
10:06<chandu>But its considering * as a fileanme and throwing the error , sbin/* - No such file or directory
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10:07<Lenhix>I don't understand why dpkg's msg has a part in english if it's intended for spanish speakers
10:07<chandu>Please help me do I make use of * in chroot line
10:07<chandu>is there any alternative
10:07<OdyX>So that people don't shout !es to dpkg…
10:07<stew>chandu: you'd probably have to do somehting like: chroot install-dir sh -c "ls sbin/*"
10:07<chandu>stew, ok ..will try it
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10:08<chandu>stew , it worked ..thank you
10:09<And1>Hey guys, I'm having a problem. I did "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-(uname -r)" and now I can only boot into my busybox. What can I do there?
10:10<dr|z3d>And1: Any alternative kernels you can boot into?
10:10<And1>dr|z3d: Hrm, no, kinda freshly lenny, no alternate kernels yet. =/
10:10<And1>I'm on grml right now.
10:11<debacle>how can i know if my wireles card support the Master mode ? lspci report Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
10:11<dr|z3d>And1: Ok. Tried recovery mode from the existing kernel?
10:11<And1>dr|z3d: Nope, how would I do that?
10:11<dr|z3d>And1: Should be listed in grub..
10:11<And1>dr|z3d: No. :(
10:12<And1>Didn't delete it or anything, it's just not in the automagic kernel list.
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10:13<dr|z3d>And1: You might have to chroot into your install from a livecd and attempt fixes that way.
10:14<And1>dr|z3d: Mh, ok... so I'm already on a live-CD-system and my raid is already mountet... how can I (s)chroot into it?
10:15<And1>Just "chroot /path/to/mountpoint"?
10:16<dr|z3d>And1: That's more or less the size of it, yes. Check google for advanced info if you run into difficulties.
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10:17<And1>dr|z3d: Okay, thanks so far. :)
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10:27<Lenhix>dr|z3d: rescue mode = single user mode?
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10:28<And1>dr|z3d: Can I just install another kernel or purge and reinstall my current one in my chroot?
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10:30<And1>Hmm, "grep: /proc/modules: No such file or directory"
10:30<And1>Can I ignore that, cause it's just grep?
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10:31<Lenhix>what was the command?
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10:32<Lenhix>Anyway, I don't think that'd be "ignorable"
10:32<And1>"aptitude install linux-image-..."
10:32<gsimmons>debacle: The madwifi driver should support master mode for your device. You're required to provide either "autocreate=ap" to the ath_pci module (as sta is the default value) to create a AP VAP, or "autocreate=none" to establish it yourself using wlanconfig.
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10:34<debacle>gsimmons: i've just installed madfwifi-tools package but i only see the wlan0 interface ... no ath0 or similar ? do i have to reboot ?
10:34<dr|z3d>And1: Sure, if you can install a new kernel, great.
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10:35<gsimmons>!tell debacle -about madwifi-install
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10:35<gsimmons>debacle: I don't believe ath5k supports master mode operation at this time. Installing the 'madwifi-tools' package will automatically blacklist the ath5k module for you.
10:36<And1>Lenhix, dr|z3d: At installing the kernel, "mkinitrams-kpkg" prints the "grep: /proc/modules: No such file or directory" error.
10:37<debacle>gsimmons: thank you for helping me ... so i can't use this wireless card in master mode ?
10:37<dr|z3d>And1: Might need to mount that folder also.
10:37<And1>dr|z3d: Hmm, dunno how. =/
10:37<debacle>gsimmons: thank you for helping me ... so can't I use this wireless card in master mode ?
10:38<dr|z3d>And1: google is now your chum. :) Better to consult google than get potentially misleading info.
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10:40<gsimmons>debacle: No, I believe that you can, at least WRT madwifi.
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10:40<festerindublin>hello everyone..
10:41<festerindublin>Does anyone know if the stock kernel for etch has highmem64 set to y?
10:41<festerindublin>I checked /boot/config*** and it says it wasnt set..
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10:42<buffoon_work_>festerindublin, i think you might want to install a -bigmem kernel
10:42<festerindublin>buffoon_work_ thanks! nice
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10:43<debacle>gsimmons: ok ... can i ask you what is wrt ? i simply would like use my wireless card as acces point (sharing internet connection to wireless clients)
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10:44<dpkg>i guess wrt is with respect to, or with regards to
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10:45<And1>dr|z3d: So I installed the kernel now again without any errors/warnings... you think I can already reboot now?
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10:45<dr|z3d>Did grub do it's update thing?
10:46<dr|z3d>Cool. Sure, give it a spin.
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10:46<debacle>gsimmons: with respect to ... ok ! (i had openwrt in my mind), excuse for stupid question. Thank you !
10:46<And1>dr|z3d: Alright, brb, hopefully not on grml. =)
10:47<dr|z3d>Good luck!
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10:56<And1>Thanks... but it didn't help. =/ I could try to install another kernel (but to be hones, I don't find one :-o), or what else could work?
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10:58<dr|z3d>Plenty of other kernels.. server, rt etc..
10:58<And1>No candidate version found for kernels < 2.6.26... =/
11:00<enouf>And1: do you have an entry in fstab for /proc? is it at the top of the entries? proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
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11:00<And1>Yup, I have that.
11:00<enouf>oh .. reading scrollback .. seems you might have deeper issues
11:01<And1>Think it's a problem with my raids, not with proc.
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11:01<enouf>yeah .. i see that now .. not sure
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11:04<Cloffy>if I have set up my wi-fi card as far as seeing Access points in WiFi Radar, but can't connect (to a WAP protected network), what does that indicate?
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11:05<dr|z3d>Cloffy: It indicates you're not supplying the correct key, possibly.
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11:06<And1>Would it help to delete the raids and create new ones? - Would that do anything to my files?
11:07<Cloffy>dr|z3d: I think I am, although I don't really trust the WiFi Radar interface :p
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11:08<Cloffy>and... to connect to a wifi do I need to unplug or disable my ethernet?
11:08<Cloffy>I mean - to check if it works I would have to unplug, i guess
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11:09<GNR>if ethernet provides internet as well, yes you better do, or disable it with software
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11:10<Cloffy>well, ok, but let's suppose that I am feeding the right passkey to the wifi router and it still won't connect. I installed smth called wpasupplicant or smth like that
11:11<GNR>you need that to connect to WPAnetworks
11:11<Cloffy>so it should work
11:11<Cloffy>I mean - that should not be the problem
11:11<Cloffy>although I've seen something similar on other systems
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11:12<Cloffy>and the prob WAS actually the WPA
11:12<Cloffy>gotta try and connect to an unprotected network
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11:13<And1>dr|z3d, enouf: You think I should maybe re-create my raids?
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11:14<dr|z3d>And1: I wouldn't want to commit to recommending that. Not sure is my considered answer :)
11:15<Knight_Lord>What's the signal that corresponds to C-z?
11:15<Knight_Lord>I want to suspend a program to which i don't have shell access
11:15<enouf>And1: i have no idea ;-)
11:16<enouf>man 7 signal?
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11:18<petern>SIGSTOP ?
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11:19<Knight_Lord>petern SIGTSTP apparently
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11:29<And1>Anyone knows, if my data will be touched, if I delete a raid-device?
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11:31<koollman>And1: yes, it will disappear
11:32<And1>koollman: So I can't delete the raid and just create a new one with the same partitions and everything is fine?
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11:32<koollman>And1: it would be a bad idea, really
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11:33<And1>So I need another way how to get my debian starting again. =/
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11:34<lukaszu0m>love Windows, debian shit...
11:35<lukaszu0m>Debian is CUP xD
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11:36<Lenhix>And1: how did you made the partitioning of your debian?
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11:37<And1>Lenhix: You mean, how the partitions look like?
11:38<Lenhix>like df -h output
11:38<lukaszu0m>aptitude purge debian, aptitude install windows
11:38<aptitude>lukaszu0m: have you tried ?
11:38<stew>lukaszu0m: do you have a debian related question?
11:38<festerindublin>aptitude purge debian, aptitude install windows <- LOL
11:38<aptitude>no idea, festerindublin
11:38<lukaszu0m>Fack yu!
11:39<stew>lukaszu0m: if you don't have an actual question, please just keep quiet
11:39<And1>Lenhix: sd[ab]1 root, sd[ab]5 swap, sd[ab]6 tmp, sd[ab]7 /var/tmp, sd[ab]8 home
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11:42<And1>Lenhix: Mh, raid1 that is. =)
11:44<Lenhix>nevermind, i had a bad idea: reinstall debian using the older partitions (only /boot would be actually reinstalled)
11:44<Lenhix>I do that sometimes to update distro. I have /home apart, so I just tell the installer where it's located but to not touch it
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11:44<Lenhix>But I don't know if that's possible with your RAID
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11:45<And1>I don't quite understand, what would happen if I remove the devices from my raid... koollman?
11:46<koollman>And1: first, why do you want to do that ?
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11:47<And1>koollman: Dunno, I just thought it may help. - I reinstalled the kernel-package and I still can't boot, so I thought the problem hast to be my raid.
11:48<koollman>hmm. that's a strange reasonning. what happened between the 'system working' and 'system not working' states ? :)
11:48<And1>I did "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" and rebooted... into busybox.
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11:49<koollman>And1: hmm. so, you just changed your boot parameters. why do you think raid is involved ?
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11:51<And1>koollman: I did that to change my raids names, I configured my /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and then I did the dpkg-reconfigure thing... that was a bad hint on the forums. =/ Then I changed /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf back to its original but it still didn't work.
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11:54<koollman>And1: hmm, ok. so, when you boot you have some error message ? probably along the lines of 'kernel panic : not syncing : VFS unable to mount' ?
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11:55<And1>Hmm, lemme check it... be right back, have to reboot and then come back to grml.
11:55<mic_p>Hi all. I'm trying to use mkisofs that required to me the file, but I'm not able to find it on any packages. Where look for?
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11:55<valdyn>mic_p: you dont need that file
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11:56<mic_p>valdyn: sure? On every how-to found there is that option on the mkisofs switch line
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12:02<enouf>mic_p: genisoimage and wodim
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12:04<mic_p>enouf: sorry, but on both packages there is no file (seeing the
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12:06<valdyn>mic_p: so why dont you check what this file actually is supposed to be?
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12:07<valdyn>the manpage is admittedly crappy with this
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12:09<valdyn>but google seems to know
12:10<koollman>And1: hmm. so your raid is working, but you miss some other parts ...
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12:11<And1>koollman: Any ideas on how to fix that?
12:11<mic_p>valdyn: I know that I can download it from somewhere, but I thought that was a debian location for it. I'll download from syslinux site.
12:11<enouf>mic_p: you don't get the file from those pkgs, you get it from isolinux and friends
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12:11<koollman>And1: I would use a live cd or something I can boot on, to edit /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst, and regenerate the initrd image
12:12<And1>koollman: I'm on grml right now.
12:12<koollman>so you are close enough
12:12<enouf>i thought you wanted to know which pkg contained the mkisofs equiv, and to manipulate the or someshit
12:12<koollman>what's in /proc/mdstat ?
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12:12<petern>status of md
12:12<valdyn>mic_p: oh
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12:13<valdyn>mic_p: i dont get how you got the idea that you need to download it
12:13<valdyn>mic_p: its an autogenerated file
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12:13<koollman>And1: ok. now, which one is supposed to be / on your real system ?
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12:14<And1>koollman: md2
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12:14<And1>koollman: md2 root, md3 swap, md4 tmp, md5 /var/tmp, md6 home
12:14<koollman>And1: so, mount it somewhere. (as in, mount /dev/md2 /mnt/somedirectory)
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12:14<And1>koollman: Yup, ok.
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12:16<koollman>And1: now, show me /mnt/somedirectory/etc/fstab
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12:20<koollman>And1: hmm. that's rather hard to read
12:20<And1>Mh, there's something strange about the UUIDs in fstab it seems. Or I'm doing something wrong right now.
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12:20<koollman>And1: you have a command 'vol_id' somewhere. use it to read each UUID (/path/to/vol_id -u /dev/md2, and such)
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12:21<And1>Ah I see, I took the UUIDs from the sd-devices, sorry. Let me show you the right ones.
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12:23<And1>koollman: Uploaded, same link.
12:23<And1>koollman: I mean. =)
12:24<koollman>so basically, they seems ok
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12:25<koollman>mount -t proc proc /mnt/somedir/proc
12:25<koollman>mount -o bind /dev /mnt/somedir/dev
12:25<And1>Uh, forgot the one from boot, but it's also ok in my fstab. - Yup, lemme do that right now.
12:25<koollman>And1: then, chroot /mnt/somedir
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12:26<And1>koollman: Ok, did that.
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12:27<koollman>And1: right. now, have a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst (assuming /boot was mounted for that chroot. if not, use a second term to mount it at the right place)
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12:29<And1>koollman: Wanna see it? "root=UUID=...ID... ro" is also right in there. Anything else I have to look for in that file?
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12:31<koollman>And1: is there some initrd= or initramfs=, in the default boot option ?
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12:33<And1>"initrd /initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686"
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12:35<koollman>And1: ok. so you would need to do something like mkinitrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686 2.6.26-1-686
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12:38<And1>Mh, in which package is that command? Or do I have to put that in my menu.lst? :-o
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12:45<And1>koollman: Mh, in which package is that command? Or do I have to put that in my menu.lst? :-o (Just for highlighting, don't want to stress. ^^)
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12:47<And1>There's 'mkinitramfs' as command, when I complete mkinit<TAB>.
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12:51<saavedra>hello guys
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12:55<saavedra>que pasa magraa
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12:58<Woet>How do I disable MySQL logging every single query?
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12:58<Woet>It's not really explained in the configuration file
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13:00<berto>Woet: comment out the 'log' line
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13:01<Woet># Both location gets rotated by the cronjob.
13:01<Woet># Be aware that this log type is a performance killer.
13:01<Woet>#log = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
13:01<Woet>already disabled, restarted MySQL several times
13:02<barnes>bin_log something
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13:11<enouf>Woet: you asked about install time (much earlier) ..still want to know?
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13:12<enouf>Woet: check the date on ls -l /var/log/installer*/syslog perhaps
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13:14<enouf>Woet: but locate any /var/log/{debian-installer,installer}/syslog files and grep a date from it, or see the Top of the file when viewed in a pager or editor - no guarantees it's 100% accurate
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13:23<And1>Why does md0 appear in /dev, if it doesn't exist at all. :-o
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13:25<soultcer>I recently filed a bug (#508663) and now noticed that it was me who was at fault and the bug is actually not a bug, but me misinterpreting the documentation. Is it ok to just close it by sending a mail to to close it?
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13:34<Lenhix>Or you could post a comment claryfing that is wasn't a bug and wait until and admin closes it
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13:41<Zathras>Hi. I issued a 'reportbug' but it wanted direct access to my ISPs SMTP server instead of my own and therefor failed. How can I easily mail the resulting txt files please?
13:42<Zathras>I fixed reportbug.conf now to use localhost smtp
13:42<morph_>Zathras: configure reportbug, smtphost is the key you want
13:43<simonrvn>reportbug --config
13:44<Zathras>I did already so now, but I would like to file the already generated reports (txt files) now please
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13:46<And1>koollman: Mh, ok, all my raids work now. But I still can't boot, still this /root/dev/ and proc and sys error.
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13:54<morph_>Zathras: -i option
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14:03<guillaume>And1: your root md is a raid level 1 ?
14:04<guillaume>boot sorry
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14:06<Zathras>morph_, that just includes a file as attachment, still requires to create a new report
14:07<Zathras>all headers etc are already in the file. It's basically the question: how to send it
14:07<And1>guillaume: Uh... sorry, how can I look that up?
14:08<Zathras>cat /proc/mdstat
14:08<morph_>Zathras: -i FILE: Include the specified file as part of the body of the message to be edited
14:08<Zathras>I saw that in the man and tried it
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14:10<Zathras>maybe I have to force it into text only version
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14:10<And1>guillaume: I get these errors:
14:10<morph_>Zathras: --ui=text
14:11<SalfranCL>hello people
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14:11<guillaume>And1: open a root terminal and use mdadm
14:11<Zathras>still sux. Still have to do all work on all report again
14:12<And1>guillaume: What do I have to do with mdadm?
14:12<stew>Zathras: i'd think you could just use mutt to send the already existing email
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14:13<morph_>Zathras: feel free to report a bug about it
14:13<morph_>Zathras: I think I've tried it and it worked, it would help to know what version you are using
14:13<Zathras>3.47 on Lenny
14:15<Zathras>the tool has an option to save the report to file instead of mailing it. It has also 2 (!) options to attach a file, but I fail to see how to file the report directly or import a report
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14:16<guillaume>And1: First you must understand that you can't boot a linux system from a boot partition that is not running under raid level 1, so do >cat /proc/mdstat and see if your boot partition is on a raid 1 md device
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14:20<And1>guillaume: Mh, my boot partition is /dev/sdd1, it's not a raid.
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14:24<dpkg>one warez list being sent to simone
14:24<guillaume>And1: ok, mdstat show all md active and running ?
14:24<dpkg>one warez list being sent to simone
14:25<dpkg>one warez list being sent to taziden
14:25<And1>guillaume: Yeah, and all raids are assembled correct on boot.
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14:26<And1>guillaume: At least, I get a message which says that, before I come into busybox.
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14:26<guillaume>And1: Can you go into your root partition on the md active device ?
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14:28<guillaume>And1: can you put on a pastebin site the output of "mount" ?
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14:29<And1>guillaume: I have no browser, but is it ok if I upload a txt-file? =)
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14:29<FILLVAIO2>People! Does anybody know how to downgrade libc6 from unstable to stable?
14:30<dpkg>methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>
14:31<craigevil>why would you want to even try to downgrade libc6?
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14:32<guillaume>And1: It was like the kernel haven't access to filesystem of your raid device. That's why I wanna check with you that your raid partitions are all mount
14:33<dpkg>one warez list being sent to r3r3
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14:33<FILLVAIO2>Is was accident when i try to uprage upache and in my source list at this time was unstable resources
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14:33<FILLVAIO2>apache i ment
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14:34<stew>FILLVAIO2: you can try "/msg dpkg partial downgrade", but it is not guaranteed to work, and is guaranteed to be a bit tedious
14:34<barnes>FILLVAIO2 why are you mixing stable packages with unstable in the first place?
14:34<simonrvn>taziden, r3r3: dumbass
14:34<stew>simonrvn: please don't
14:34<taziden>simonrvn: :D you dumbass
14:34<FILLVAIO2><barnes> i guess yes, and don't know what to to. It was a remote machine
14:34<r3r3>simonrvn, do i look like someone that gives a shit of your insults?
14:35<And1>guillaume: - On boot, before getting into busybox, all raid devices are assembled correct, all md-devices and their sd-devices are listed. - In this chroot home and swap are not mounted.
14:35*fxiny laughs
14:35<stew>can we all try to keep it constructive, civil, and on-topic?
14:35<And1>guillaume: Is there a way to get a log of all which happens before I get into busybox? Think there's everything what you want?
14:35<barnes>FILLVAIO2 if you running stable you can use backports for newer versions or make your own .deb
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14:36<taziden>I thought dpkg would give some kind of interesting list of things about debian, or at least a list of links of mirrors still hosting debian potato isos
14:36<barnes>taziden check archive?
14:37<simonrvn>stew: sorry
14:37<taziden>barnes: I'm not interested in debian potatos isos -_- that was just an example of funny things I'd love to see instead of being called dumbass :)
14:38<FILLVAIO2>guys <dpgk> tell me - (search for broken packages by hitting "/" and searching for "~b") what does it means "/" ?
14:38<simonrvn>taziden, r3r3: *yawn*
14:38<taziden>but whatever, i don't care
14:38<simonrvn>last one, i promise
14:38<taziden>let's all pee on ubuntu now
14:38<fxiny>oh btw , yesterday i noticed in this sarge2etch box . home permissions set to root.staff . shall i chown it root.root ?
14:38<stew>FILLVAIO2: you should key for this on your keyboard. its often localed below the ; key
14:38<guillaume>And1: what's the fs type of these outputs ...type none into your mount output ?
14:39<And1>guillaume: ext3
14:39<FILLVAIO2><stew> ok
14:39<barnes>taziden ooh I did wonder what you schould do with potato =)
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14:40<taziden>a good meal certainly, that's all
14:40<dr|z3d>Also possible with potatoes :)
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14:41<fxiny>potato ? i'm sure there is a site still offering it
14:42<r3r3>simonrvn, sorry but your are seriously retarded
14:42<r3r3>get lost
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14:43<guillaume>And1: actualy you can navigate into /root ? your /root/ is in / (dev/md2) ?
14:44<And1>guillaume: Yup, that's right.
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14:46<stew>r3r3: please stop it, and just move on
14:46<stew>r3r3: is there something we could help you with?
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14:46<phrhd>hi, I'm trying to build the openafs module on debian
14:46<fxiny>oh , and about mrxvt/utf8/euro symbol , sameone said mrxvt can't print it , i moved from en_US to en_US.ISO-8859-15 . now mrxvt now can print the euro sign . still i do not care that much , i'm just curious:)
14:46<phrhd>but iam getting an error in the make process
14:47<phrhd>could anyone give some help...
14:47<r3r3>no stew nothing, just pissing me off being agressed by a stupid moron for no reasons
14:47<stew>r3r3: enougn, drop it
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14:48<fxiny>one think i don't like is editing /etc/environment after reconfiguring locales
14:48<guillaume>And1: I don't see /boot/ into your mount output ? If you use /boot/ into / > md2 what's the output of mdadm --detail /dev/md2
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14:49<And1>guillaume: Mh, that's strange. I mounted /dev/sdd1 into $root/boot/ and I also can see the files there. - Lemme do what you wrote...
14:50<fxiny>not because i am lazy but because is easy to forget it
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14:53<And1>guillaume: Hmm, what you wanna know from there? Raid Level = raid1, Raid and Total and Active and Working Devices = 2, Superblock is persistent, State = clean.
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14:56<guillaume>And1: if sdd1 is /boot/ I think that you've to put it in your /etc/fstab in order to see a boot partion in mount output. I don't know if you can mount sdd1 into a md device for booting...
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14:57<And1>guillaume: Mh, it is it my fstab. I'm running grml right now, that's why I mounted it myself into the root-partition.
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14:59<And1>guillaume: In my fstab /dev/sdd1 (with its UUID) is mounted to /boot (ext2, noatime, 0, 2)
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15:05<guillaume>And1: have you got sbin/init and /bin/sh into your filesystem ?
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15:05<kordero>hi there
15:06<kordero>can anyone help me?
15:06<And1>guillaume: Yup.
15:06<stew>kordero: if you have a question, just ask it
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15:07<kordero>thank you stew, you see, I'm connected to my home computer via ssh and I need to get control of my tty1
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15:07<kordero>i'm trying it with the screen command
15:07<kordero>sorry if my english is not well, I'm from Argentina
15:07<stew>kordero: you could try retty
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15:08<stew>kordero: tty1 is not already running screen, is it?
15:08<kordero>i need to execute a command that will disconnect my modem sometimes, that's why i need a tty, cause my ssh connection will be lost
15:08<kordero>no, it isn't
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15:09<Myon>screen also gives you a tty
15:09<kordero>screen -r
15:09<kordero>what goes next?
15:09<stew>kordero: yeah, do you actually need something on tty1? or do you just need a tty?
15:09<stew>Myon: you hilight on retty? :)
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15:09<Myon>man screen?
15:09<kordero>what would be the second parameter?
15:09<Myon>stew: still, unforunately
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15:10<stew>Myon: hoping one day to find someone saying, "I think I might adopt retty" ? :P
15:10<Myon>that was cryopid, retty already got adopted
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15:10<stew>ahh :)
15:10<kordero>stew: i need something that still alive when the modem disconnects
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15:10<dpkg>rumour has it, locale is set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers)
15:11<stew>kordero: then "screen" will start a session that you could reattach to later with screen -r or screen -x
15:11<kordero>cause i'm going to run a script that disconnect the modem sometimes to get a new ip address
15:11<kordero>but i dont know what to write after the '-r' parameter
15:11<stew>kordero: or you might want "screen -S modem" to start a screen named "modem" you could reattach to with "screen -r modem"
15:12<stew>kordero: you can leave it blank, just "screen -r" if you only have one running, or "screen -ls" will list available screens and you can reattach to a particular one with "screen -r pid"
15:13<kordero>thank you very much!
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15:13<kordero>this is muy first time here on
15:13<kordero>you have been very useful
15:13<kordero>thank you very much!!
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15:15<guillaume>And1: could you extract logs from your /var/ partition with "cat /var/log/dmesg > log.txt; cat /var/log/kern.log >> log.txt" for example and put it on www ?
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15:18<dr|z3d>Seems I've got a whole bunch of corrupt files in /var/lib/dpkg/info .. anyway to force them to update?
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15:30<FILLVAIO2>Guys: what to do after that? :) # The package libc6 needs to be reinstalled, but i can't find an archive for it.
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15:31<stew>FILLVAIO2: perhaps you should just reinstall
15:31<stew>FILLVAIO2: i mean, reinstall debian
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15:31<And1>guillaume: Mh, it seems my swap and boot partitions are broken.
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15:34<r3r3> hey anyone to tell me what actually mean all these connections?
15:34<dr|z3d>Anyone got a clue? /var/lib/dpkg/info files borked. Anything doing to clear/restore valid files there?
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15:36<stew>dr|z3d: aptitude reinstall packagename?
15:37<dr|z3d>stew: Hmm. Ok. Looks like a *lot* of files are borked therein.. would I need to do that for everything? Nothing to fix all files in one go?
15:37<stew>dr|z3d: aptitude reinstall '~i'
15:38<stew>r3r3: what is that output from?
15:38<dr|z3d>stew: And that would reinstall everything???!!
15:38<r3r3>stew, netstats
15:38<stew>dr|z3d: yes, '~i' means "currently installed"
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15:38<r3r3>stew, netstat
15:38<stew>r3r3: add -p and run it as root to see what processes have these sockets open
15:38<r3r3>oki sec
15:39<dr|z3d>stew: Hmm. OK. Thanks. I might just go with the first option for now.
15:39<stew>dr|z3d: it begs the question of how did these things become corrupted?
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15:39<Wooly>any SMB gurus in here?
15:40<r3r3>stew, can t copy past the whole ooutput
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15:41<stew>looks like postfix
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15:42<stew>Wooly: you might try #samba on
15:42<Wooly>cheers, i'll check there :)
15:42<stew>r3r3: you might ask #postfix on what they are doing
15:43<stew>Wooly: or just ask us, if, perhaps, you don't really need a guru
15:43<Wooly>that could be true
15:43<Wooly>i'm having trouble with streaming AVI files over the network to a Mac from my Debian file-server
15:44<Wooly>playback is very jerky to the point of being unwatchable
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15:44<dr|z3d>stew: Works ok once the relevant files in info have been deleted.
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15:46<Wooly>I know that there are more efficient formats for streaming, but I'm using a gigabit ethernet link, so I thought it would be able to cope
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15:47<FILLVAIO2><stew> any other ideas? :(
15:48<stew>FILLVAIO2: show us the output of "apt-cache policy libc6"
15:48<chahibi>Wooly, I have a laptop with a Gigabit ethernet card, the netinstall doesn't detect it. Any idea?
15:49<chahibi>Wooly, (it doesn't detect my DVD drive before anything else)
15:49<Wooly>is it a sata dvd drive?
15:49<stew>chahibi: using which installer?
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15:50<chahibi>Wooly, Optiarc DVD RW AD-7561S
15:50<chahibi>stew, both graphical and text installers
15:50<stew>chahibi: etch? etchnhalf? lenny?
15:50<chahibi>stew, 4.0 r5 i3
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15:50<r3r3>thanks stew i will
15:50<stew>chahibi: try etchnhalf which uses a newer kernel. it was released specifically to try to support more newer hardware: /msg dpkg etchnhalf
15:51<FILLVAIO2><stew> FK! I can't copy paste from virtual window
15:51<stew>FILLVAIO2: what is a virtual window? why can you copy from it?
15:52<chahibi>stew, thanks
15:53<FILLVAIO2>ok. I will try to explain. I have a remote server with same problem - i need to downgrade libc6. I do the same on virtual machine under windowsxp and trying to recover it. I need to your help to solve this problem un dummy virtual machine.
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15:53<chahibi>stew, from here , right?
15:53<chahibi>stew, debian-40r5a-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso
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15:55<gsimmons>Wooly: You might find /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/speed.html useful. Otherwise, increase any precache values (if available) in your playback software.
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15:56<stew>chahibi: yeah, that looks right
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15:56<Wooly>gsimmons: Thanks, I'll take a look at that document. I've tried increasing the precache values in VLC to no effect. It's strange, as copying a file off the server is incredibly quick, it's just streaming that is the issue.
15:56<chahibi>stew, may testing work too?
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15:58<barnes>anyone tried to install HP support pack on Lenny and proliantservers?
15:58<And1>guillaume: fsck fails at /dev/sdd1 - got no log, I just saw it after booting.
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15:59<FILLVAIO2>stew: can you help me?
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16:01<stew>FILLVAIO2: can you show me the output of "apt-cache policy libc6"?
16:01<stew>barnes: yes
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16:02<And1>'/lib/udev/vol_id --type swamp /dev/md1' says: "swap: error opening volume", why that?
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16:03<adb>And1: --type swamp ?
16:03<And1>Maybe because I didn't start grml with swraid (or how the option is called)?
16:03<And1>adb: swap, I mean, sorry.
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16:04<FILLVAIO2><stew> i here? or by /msg ?
16:04<chahibi>There is no testing netinst?
16:04<stew>FILLVAIO2: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin
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16:06<barnes_>stew got it to work?
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16:06<dr|z3d>stew: Thanks for the pointer, btw.
16:07<gsimmons>!tell chahibi -about install testing
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16:07<adb>And1: i doubt that /lib/udev/vol_id is a swap area
16:08<FILLVAIO2><stew> i really need to downgrade libc6 from unstable to stable without crashing my server :(
16:08<chahibi>gsimmons, can I use testing instead of etchandhalf to solve my hardware compatibility problem?
16:09<dpkg>methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>
16:09<FILLVAIO2><stew> from verstion 2.7-16 to 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7
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16:09<adb>FILLVAIO2: ^^^
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16:11<gsimmons>chahibi: Try using an etchnhalf installer first, as stew advised previously.
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16:12<stew>barnes_: yes, its working well
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16:12<stew>FILLVAIO2: you need to add a sid source in order to reinstall libc6
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16:12<stew>FILLVAIO2: or testing, i guess, since they have the same libc6
16:13<stew>FILLVAIO2: then proceed with the process identified in /msg dpkg partial downgrade
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16:13<barnes_>stew did you use the .rpm or old .debs from etch?
16:13<chahibi>Is it OK to use the 64 bits edition?
16:13<stew>barnes_: new .debs for lenny
16:13<stew>FILLVAIO2: however note: this will be a tedious process. It might be easier to just reinstall debian
16:13<stew>chahibi: what cpu do you have?
16:13<barnes_>stew ooh do have an url:?
16:14<chahibi>stew, Intel core 2 duo
16:14<stew>chahibi: then yes
16:14<stew>barnes_: let me see
16:14<FILLVAIO2>is there any way to backup my data/configs ?
16:15<stew>barnes_: sorry, i don't
16:15<stew>barnes_: they are not released yet
16:15<barnes_>stew ok was it on or?
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16:20<simonrvn>taziden, r3r3: i thought you were a couple of kiddies actually looking for warez... get that a lot here, and somone had just done it. i suppose you just wanted to see what happened when you did !list.
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16:21<guillaume>And1: sorry but I have to leave now, good luck
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16:22<taziden>simonrvn: you're right, i was just trying ;) dumbly, there's no doubt but just trying :p just like the red button with arrows pointing to it and written above :"don't ever push, ever"
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16:22<Wooly>gah this is annoying
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16:23<simonrvn>i was a dumbass for acting the way i did ;).
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16:25<fecasadahe>hola buenas noches
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16:26<fecasadahe>alguien puede ayudarme con el plugin de fkash , iceweasel no me lo en cuentra
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16:26<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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16:27<And1>How do I format and install a boot-partition? :-o
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16:33<FILLVAIO2><stew> i have many error while i try partial downgrade via aptitude :(
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16:35<stew>FILLVAIO2: what is an example of an error you are getting?
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16:37<chahibi>How comes the netinst amd64 image weights 25 MB less than the i386 one?
16:37<FILLVAIO2><stew> for partial downgrade i need to go into installed or not installed packages? i have libc6 with new version only in installed packages, but i need to downgrade. WHere can i find stable verstion. I have correct my source.list and set there etch main contrib
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16:39<stew>FILLVAIO2: hit enter on libc6, select the stable version, choose to install it, this will break lots of packages. then search for a broken package, choose the stable version, then repeat until there are no more broken packages
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16:41<And1>Hmm, 'fsck /dev/sdd1' prints "/dev/sdd contains a filesystem with errors, check forced." on boot.
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16:42<FILLVAIO2><stew> but if i have package UNAVAILABLE ? WHat to do than?
16:43<stew>FILLVAIO2: which version of which package?
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16:44<stew>judd: verions glibc-doc-reference
16:44<judd>stew: Error: "verions" is not a valid command.
16:44<stew>judd: versions glibc-doc-reference
16:44<judd>stew: glibc-doc-reference -- etch/non-free: 2.3.6-1 lenny/non-free: 2.7-1 sid/non-free: 2.7-1
16:44<stew>FILLVAIO2: do you have non-free in your sources.list?
16:44<FILLVAIO2>not yet, just a moment :)
16:45<stew>FILLVAIO2: you'd either need to add non-free, or remove this package
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16:51<r3r3>simonrvn, ok then nevermind
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16:53<r3r3>simonrvn, i saw it was a joke that !list, just wanted to see if there was more fun
16:53<r3r3>when issuing it
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16:56<FILLVAIO2><stew> what to do after i select proper packages? if i press [g] i have many still errors :(
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16:57<FILLVAIO2><stew> i have many packages to remove i list, Now in preview
16:57<stew>FILLVAIO2: fix the errors
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17:00<FILLVAIO2>i have glibc-doc-reference (UNSATISFIED)
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17:02<FILLVAIO2><stew> under red line with unsati... i see 2.3.6-1 than what to do with it?
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17:04<stew>FILLVAIO2: you have to either add non-free sources or remove the glibc-doc-reference package
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17:05<FILLVAIO2>sorry, may be i don't understand hotkeys in aptitude with i need to use...
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17:07<stew>FILLVAIO2: hit "?"
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17:07<FILLVAIO2>already, thanx learnign
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17:12<amjad>hi all
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17:12<amjad>I am trying to use certificates bought from godaddy for dovecot
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17:14<FILLVAIO2><stew> one more quastion: how to clear all actions in aptitude i can't find sorry
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17:15<stew>FILLVAIO2: in the actions menu
17:15<amjad>I am trying to use certificates bought from godaddy for dovecot
17:15<stew>amjad: if you have a question, just ask it
17:15<amjad>I have these entries in dovecot.conf
17:16<amjad>ssl_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/
17:16<amjad>ssl_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/
17:16<amjad>ssl_ca_file = /etc/ssl/certs/
17:16<amjad>but the mail client says could not verify the security ....
17:17<amjad>they work fine for websites
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17:19<smash>sorry - damn irssi one should not scroll up and then forget to scroll down :|
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17:22<FILLVAIO2><stew> i have pressed in Cancel panding action, but two red rows in bottom of aptitude is lighting till
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17:30<icf7>I installed sid on a Dell Latitude E5400, and the fan is constantly blowing despite /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature < 40°C. Can I modify the fan policy? What could be a reason for the fan staying on?
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17:37<And1>What means, after grub, "Error 2: Baf file or directory type"?
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17:37<amjad>How can I check the certificates used by thunderbird for email server?
17:38<amjad>I mean icedove
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17:39<dr|z3d>amjad: Options -> Certificates.
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17:41<amjad>dr|z3d, there is no such option
17:41<amjad>and there are no certficates in Edit-preferences
17:41<dr|z3d>Options -> Advanced -> Certificates, sorry.
17:42<amjad>and there are no certficates in Edit-preferences-privacy
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18:00<zurco>boa noite a todos, meio perdido aqui,
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18:01<zurco>buscando ajuda , por favor alguem disponivel?
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18:02<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
18:02<shay>its portuguesse
18:02<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
18:03<icf7> I installed sid on a Dell Latitude E5400, and the fan is constantly blowing despite /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature < 40°C. Can I modify the fan policy? What could be a reason for the fan staying on?
18:04<dr|z3d>icf7: Check the bios, first off.
18:04<dr|z3d>icf7: Dell laptops are pretty noisy.
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18:05<FILLVAIO2><stew> are you here?
18:05<icf7>dr|z3d: I did check the BIOS. And the laptop (and by the way, also other Dell Laptops I own) are nearly silent in gentoo
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18:05<FILLVAIO2><stew> it can't locate file libc-client2002edebian package
18:05<FILLVAIO2>what to do?
18:06<dr|z3d>icf7: Got the powernow daemon installed/running? Not sure if that might help.. worth a look, perhaps?
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18:07<stew>judd: versions libc-client2002edebian
18:07<judd>stew: libc-client2002edebian -- etch: 7:2002edebian1-13.1 etch-security: 7:2002edebian1-13.1+etch1
18:07<stew>FILLVAIO2: show us the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libc-client2002edebian"
18:08<icf7>dr|z3d: powernowd just controls the CPU frequency. That's not a problem, it's nearly fixed at 800MHz
18:09<enouf>icf7: are you using Etch? which kernel?
18:09<icf7>enouf: Sid, 2.6.26-1-amd64
18:10<enouf>icf7: you might try lm_sensors and sensors-detect? and/or .. hrm....
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18:12<enouf>icf7: have you looked in /sys/../../../ for fan control settings? newer kernels now have the /proc/acpi stuff moved over into /sys - see for starters
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18:13<icf7>enouf: sensors-detect recommended adding the module coretemp. Did that, no change yet
18:13<enouf>judd versions lm_sensors
18:13<FILLVAIO2><stew> Going to download now
18:13<judd>enouf: lm_sensors --
18:14<enouf>judd versions lmsensors
18:14<judd>enouf: lmsensors --
18:14<FILLVAIO2><stew> 30%
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18:14<enouf>judd versions lm-sensors
18:14<judd>enouf: lm-sensors -- etch: 1:2.10.1-3 lenny: 1:3.0.2-1+b2 sid: 1:3.0.2-2 experimental: 1:3.0.3-1
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18:14<enouf>icf7: does lsmod show thermal, fan, et al loaded?
18:15<icf7>enouf: Yes
18:15<FILLVAIO2><stew> If there some modules is no there, system can be load if later? i mean after downgrade process?
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18:16<enouf>icf7: using a customized kernel? with initrd? ..stock debian?
18:16<icf7>enouf: Stock debian
18:16<enouf>i know you showed me version .. ok
18:18<FILLVAIO2><stew> oops, failure runnin script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || tru
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18:18<enouf>it's just that, i'm pretty sure my .26 loads those two modules from initrd, perhaps cause they need to be loaded early on or something ... - i wonder if cpufreqd, cpufreq-utils stuf is buggering it a bit ... i dont know - might try looking through the debian-amd64 mailing list archives?
18:19<FILLVAIO2><stew> Package failed to istall. Trying to recover: press return to continue
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18:20<stew>FILLVAIO2: you have to figure out which packages are broken and fix them
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18:23<FILLVAIO2><stew> gcc compiler was wrong
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18:24<Pianist>hablame pi?eroo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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18:25<FILLVAIO2><stew> i don't know, but i have no packages lighting in red :(
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18:27<FILLVAIO2>try to recover what ? :( error 100
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18:36<FILLVAIO2><stew> sorry, have any ideas?
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18:43<stew>FILLVAIO2: which packages are you having problems with?
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18:45<FILLVAIO2><stew> after all downloads i have a black screen with: E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code (100)
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18:46<FILLVAIO2>A package fuiled to install. Trying to recover:
18:46<FILLVAIO2>Press return to continue/
18:46<FILLVAIO2>Thats all
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18:48<tark>amphi: using the latest compat-wireless-old found on did the trick, finally got intel wifi 5100agn to work in lenny
18:48<tark>thanks for the tip
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18:52<amphi>tark: good-oh
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18:52<amphi>tark: that's the archive of old versions?
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18:56<tark>amphi: yes new compat-wireless only works with kernels >= 2.6.27
18:57<amphi>right, you said that
18:57<amphi>I have the shortlived 4965 here
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19:04<stew>FILLVAIO2: is there not a more specific error above that message?
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19:04<FireWalker>hi there LL
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19:26<dpkg><feerf> ok, the main think that does not work in Woody is that Woody is way too old (like museum now)
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20:00<D1ablo>need a tool to chnage the hd geomatry
20:00<D1ablo>i have a wd 400 wich is 40gb set to 20gb at factory
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20:12<D1ablo>[dpkg(] are you smoking crack?, D1ablo
20:13<D1ablo>sheesh even i irc bot knows :-)
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20:37<nickgaw>Is there a way to configure apt-get or aptitude to perge packages when it removes them rather then just deinstalling them?
20:38<newsense>aptitude purge
20:38<aptitude>from memory, purge is to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use aptitude purge [package] or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge '~c', or see <confmiss> about restoring individual config files
20:38<newsense>apt-get purge
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20:44<abrotman>not apt-get purge
20:44<nickgaw>yes I know how to do that but how do I tell apt-get to always do this rather then just deinstalling?
20:45<abrotman>AFAIK you can't always do that unless you always specify to purge
20:46<newsense>nickgaw, write a small shell script ?
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20:48<nickgaw>what is a good console or text mode sound player that is command line driven that will play just about anything?
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20:49<dpkg>Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See
20:50<amphi>nickgaw: moc is one
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20:51<sts>hey all
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20:53<craigevil>nickgaw: moc, mplayer
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21:06<icyo>How could I see the connexion speed of a network interface without root tools (ex: mii-tools)
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21:10<abrotman>dmesg perhaps
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21:12<icyo>i'll check thx
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21:13<icyo>nop... :S
21:13<icyo>any others ideas?
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21:27<Malle>hello, ive lost my sources list and ive searched around but i havent found any that would work.. this all started with apache2 not getting installed, i got the msg that it was all setup with apt-get and ready but when i did cd /etc/apache2 i get "no such directory"
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21:29<abrotman>!tell Malle about sources.list
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21:34<Malle>thanks abrotman sources are ok now but the problem persists ->
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21:35<abrotman>!tell Malle about confmiss
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21:37<apostle>!tell apostle about sources.list
21:37<Malle>thx abrotman again :-) but that didnt help either check yourself :) ->
21:37<abrotman>!tell apostle about selftell
21:38<abrotman>Malle: apache2.2-common
21:38*Malle cheers
21:38<Malle>thank you abrotman
21:38<apostle>abrotman, thanks ...did not know how to do that before now
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21:41<apostle>abrotman, is there a good howto or documentation on the bots, factoids and other features of an irc xchat?
21:41<abrotman>xchat is an irc client
21:41<abrotman>!tell apostle about dpkgbot
21:41<apostle>abrotman, thanks again :)
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21:42<tuxwarrior>!selftell about dpkgbot
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21:44<abrotman>fail ..
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21:47<Malle>damn something is seriously wrong, apache2 cant even be removed :E
21:47<dr|z3d>seg faults, Malle?
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21:48<abrotman>Malle: so put it in a pastebin and ask
21:48<dr|z3d>Perhaps try: rm -f /var/cache/apt/*.bin
21:48<dr|z3d>If it is indeed an apt/aptitude issue.
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21:48<abrotman>dr|z3d: why? that's stupid
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21:49<Malle> <- strange?
21:50<dr|z3d>abrotman: If it's an apt-get seg fault type issue, then that's exactly the thing to do.
21:50<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -l apache2*
21:50<abrotman>dr|z3d: doubtful
21:50<Malle>No packages found matching apache2.conf.
21:50<apostle>abrotman, that is the coolest wiki
21:50<dr|z3d>abrotman: Works for me. Every time :)
21:50<abrotman>dr|z3d: you're special
21:51<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -l "apache2*"
21:51*dr|z3d grins.
21:52<abrotman>Malle: did you reinstall apache2.2-common or apache2? or apache2-mpm-worker ?
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21:53<Malle>im not sure abrotman , but how would be easiest way to check/solve
21:53<Malle>remove the util, common and doc and the try install again ?
21:53<abrotman>Malle: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-worker
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21:55<abrotman>Malle: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-worker
21:55<abrotman>see if that does it
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21:59<bounca99>anyone in here know where i can find setools 3??
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22:00<abrotman>bounca99: apt-cache search setools ?
22:00<Malle>abrotman ->
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22:00<abrotman>Malle: so fix your conf file .. and start apache
22:00<Malle>i havent changed it
22:01<abrotman>so comment out line 141
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22:04<abrotman>bounca99: apt-cache search setools ?
22:04<abrotman>judd: versions setools
22:04<judd>abrotman: setools -- etch: 2.4-3 lenny: 3.3.5.ds-5 sid: 3.3.5.ds-5
22:05<Malle>something must be wrong abrotman i have to uncomment like every command or it complains :S
22:06<abrotman>Malle: such as ?
22:06<Malle>just about everything, order allow, deny, scriptalias, typesconfig, and so on
22:07<apostle>problems with freeciv...I just installed this game and I don't know how to start the program?
22:08<Malle>abrotman i even tried the default config file now this shouldnt happend ?
22:08<abrotman>Malle: paste ?
22:09<bounca99>setools is a program to hack sony ericsson phones
22:09<abrotman>bounca99: then i guess you should be more specific since a serious person knows that to be the tools for SE Linux
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22:10<gravity>apostle: There should be a menu entry.
22:11<Malle>abrotman its a fresh install, doesnt it seem kinda wierd :(?
22:12<abrotman>Malle: not if you've been deleting things by hand .. which seems to be the case
22:12<Malle>what should i do then ?
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22:14<Malle>i mean abrotman i need to solve it somehow and i dont know how i should do that
22:14<abrotman>Malle: purge all the apache stuff
22:14<Malle>whats the purge command
22:15<abrotman>you'll probably have to alter the postrm file
22:15<abrotman>Malle: aptitude purge apache2.2-common apache2 apache2-mpm-worker
22:15<Malle>where do i edit it
22:15<angasule>I have a large OSD-like blank area :( it's obscuring a good chunk of my screen
22:16<Malle>and why should i
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22:16<angasule>I've killed lots of processes and it's still there, even xkill won't work
22:16<abrotman>Malle: because it's going to be unhappy because apache2 isn't running
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22:16<Malle>abrotman where can i find it
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22:17<Malle>whats it called abrotman ?
22:18<abrotman>it will tell you when it tries to remove it
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22:18<Malle>didnt say anythingabout it
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22:18<abrotman>paste it
22:19<Malle>i cant ;S
22:20<abrotman>why not ?
22:21<Malle>i use remote access so it clears after a while
22:21<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -l "apache2*" .. paste it
22:23<abrotman>Malle: aptitude purge apache2-doc apache2-utils
22:23<abrotman>Malle: and then tell me if /etc/apache2/ still exists
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22:28<Malle>abrotman its gone
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22:28<abrotman>Malle: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin
22:29<abrotman>Malle: aptitude install apache2
22:30<Malle>working XD
22:30<Malle>for php5 i just type aptitude install php5 right?
22:31<Malle>and same thing with mysql-server and mysqltcl ?
22:31<abrotman>Malle: aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5
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22:32<Malle>abrotman or should i take special packets
22:33<Malle>or just apt-get mysql-server and apt-get mysqltcl
22:33<abrotman>Malle: aptitude install mysql-server
22:33<abrotman>and i have no idea what mysqltcl is
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22:35<Malle>abrotman didnt work
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22:36<abrotman>where did you get mysql5.1 ?
22:36<Malle>i didnt ?
22:36<abrotman>someone did
22:36<Malle>i just typed what u wrote
22:36<Malle>ok so i need to purge it ?
22:37<Malle>debian:~# dpkg -l "mysql5.1*"
22:37<Malle>No packages found matching mysql5.1*.
22:37<Malle>ops sorry
22:37<Malle>abrotman see
22:37<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -l "mysql*"
22:37<Malle>found both
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22:40<Malle>done abrotman what do i do now
22:40<abrotman>Malle: aptitude install mysql-server mysqltcl
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22:41<Malle>still error abrotman
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22:42<abrotman>Malle: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql* .. paste it
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22:44<Malle>something wrong with that abrotman :o
22:44<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -i --force-downgrade /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql*
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22:44<Malle>jesus error again rofl
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22:45<abrotman>jesus .. where did you get mysql5.1 ?
22:45<Malle>i have no clue
22:45<Malle>i want to remove it !
22:45<Malle>i did purge
22:45<ttyS1>I'm not able to read downloaded Google pdf books. is there something I have to install to do that ? I get: ERROR: Unable to process JPXDecode data
22:45<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -l "mysql*"
22:46<abrotman>fucking crappy dotdeb packages
22:46<Malle>:-) ?
22:46<abrotman>Malle: dpkg -P mysql-common
22:46<abrotman>that's why your system is a wreck
22:46*Malle take notes
22:46<abrotman>actually .. aptitude purge mysql-common
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22:47<Malle>done abrotman
22:48<abrotman>Malle: are all the mysql packages removed now ?
22:48<abrotman>Malle: now if you `aptitude install mysql-server mysqltcl` .. still errors ?
22:49<abrotman>you used dotdeb
22:49<abrotman>paste the output
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22:49<Malle>what is dotdeb abrotman
22:49<abrotman>you used them .. you should know
22:50<Malle>i dont know what they are
22:50<abrotman>you had to intentionally add them to your sources.list .. you should know what something is when you do that
22:50<Malle>my sources was default from install
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22:51<Malle>from sarge
22:51<abrotman>then someone else is did this
22:51<Malle>maybe a friend of mine
22:51<Malle>i dont know why they should
22:51<Malle>so how to get rid of the crap
22:51<abrotman>you're going to have to wait for someone that knows more about the mysql packages .. the mysql-server package knows you have had 5.1 installed, and it's unhappy about it
22:51<Malle>after this im going to change all pws
22:52<abrotman>i'm guessing it's getting it from /var/lib/mysql/ but i don't want to tell you to delete it because i don't use mysql enough to know what that might do
22:52<Malle>i c
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22:52<Malle>does it matter if i delete it
22:52<abrotman>whatever putz installed them probably chose to not remove the databases when the package was uninstalled
22:52<Malle>i wanna do a fresh install
22:53<abrotman>Malle: i don't know .. i really don't ..
22:53<Malle>i dont care of databases get removed
22:53<Malle>all is going to be gone!
22:53<Malle>start all over from scratch
22:53<abrotman>you can try to mv /var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql_oops
22:53<abrotman>but i'm pretty skeptical
22:53<Malle>shall i try install now
22:54<Malle>it worked abrotman
22:54<abrotman>FSVO worked
22:54<Malle>check it abrotman it seems ok right ?
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22:55<abrotman>it says it installed, i'm still skeptical :)
22:55<Malle>why abrotman ?
22:55<Malle>what should be wrong
22:55<abrotman>i don't use mysql .. i'm just skeptical
22:56<Malle>hehe ok
22:56*abrotman hugs pgsql
22:56<Malle>now to the php5
22:56<Malle>what was command to install it for apache
22:56<abrotman>aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql
22:56<aptitude>abrotman: I don't know, could you explain it?
22:56<abrotman>aptitude: no, i won't
22:56<aptitude>abrotman: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
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22:57<abrotman>Malle: got all your bits ?
22:57<Malle>can i send a pm ?
22:58<Malle>i installed phpmyadmin now and i get this
22:58<abrotman>a2enmod php5 .. maybe ?
22:58<abrotman>i don't use phpmyadmin .. nor should anyone
22:58<Malle>This module does not exist!
22:58<abrotman>Malle: did you install libapache2-mod-php5 ?
22:59<abrotman>!tell Malle about confmiss
22:59<abrotman>i'd guess ..
22:59<abrotman>you really did a number on your system
22:59<Malle>number ?
22:59<abrotman>a good job
22:59<abrotman>f'ed it up
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23:01<Malle>still same thing abrotman
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23:01<abrotman>which same thing ?
23:02<Malle>check pm
23:02<Malle>and see what happends
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23:03<abrotman>did you a2enmod php5 ?
23:04<abrotman>Malle: it's working for me now
23:04<abrotman>FSVO working .. it brings up the page .. but lots of php errors
23:04<abrotman>warnnings .. whatever
23:04<Malle>i see
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23:04<abrotman>you probably need to read the phpmyadmin README in /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin
23:05<abrotman>anyways .. off to sleepyland
23:05<Malle>thanks for abrotman
23:05<Malle>for your help
23:05<Malle>sleep well
23:05<abrotman>yep .. good luck
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23:19<petter>vando esta ahi?
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23:42<Villarroel>mrxvt question: How can i send some escape sequence on mrxvt startup?
23:42<Villarroel>to mrxvt itself
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