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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-01-15

---Logopened Thu Jan 15 00:00:08 2009
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00:15<newsense>anyone here use logcheck ?
00:15<twb>newsense: yes.
00:15<twb>!tell newsense about anyone
00:15<newsense>you like it ?
00:16<newsense>i know about anyone
00:16<twb>Compared to logwatch? Definitely.
00:16<newsense>im a regular here
00:16-!-themusicgod1 [~themusicg@static65-87-245-147.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #debian
00:16<themusicgod1>wtf could cause a floating point exception when running ls
00:16<twb>One of my coworkers is actually porting logcheck to RHEL.
00:16<newsense>im thinking about writing some rules and asking the maintainer to include them
00:16<newsense>i have a lot already
00:17<newsense>im sorting them now and working on a script to choose what rules you want
00:17<twb>themusicgod1: date/time?
00:17<themusicgod1>as in a bad date?
00:17<twb>themusicgod1: try to stat the offending file.
00:17<themusicgod1>no
00:17<twb>themusicgod1: i.e. "stat foo.txt"
00:17<themusicgod1>it's my whole filesystem :(
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00:18<themusicgod1>hmm looks like it was modified 23:18:01.0000 -6 2009-01-14 odd
00:18<newsense>twb, thanks for having dpkg !tell me
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00:21<themusicgod1>also, rm, sync, date are all segfaulting
00:21<themusicgod1>odd
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00:23<newsense>themusicgod1, your not running sid are you ?
00:23<twb>themusicgod1: sounds like a good time to mount -o remount,ro /
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00:25<themusicgod1>newsense: not intentionally, i think it ended up thinking it was sid at one point, but that was before the last stable version and I tried to get it to follow lenny
00:26<themusicgod1>not sure if i succeeded
00:26<codeblue>anyone know if theres a way to make cURL return the url of the page received after i have sent form data and store it in a variable ?
00:26<newsense>might be your problem whats your sources.list pointing to?
00:27<themusicgod1>weird tab completion works
00:27<themusicgod1>lenny
00:27<themusicgod1>lenny/main
00:27<themusicgod1>3 different mirrors
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00:28<themusicgod1>twb: won't let me remount something while i'm logged in
00:28<newsense>themusicgod1, what are the output from apt-cache policy sagfaultingapp
00:28<themusicgod1>newsense: everything is segfaulting, not just one app
00:29<newsense>themusicgod1, what arch are you using
00:29<themusicgod1>i386
00:29<newsense>have you ran memtest ?
00:29<themusicgod1>also, doesn't matter what kernel either, 2.6.{24,25,26}, same thing
00:29<themusicgod1>memtest passed
00:29<newsense>memtest
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00:31<twb>Where's the Debian-kFreeBSD channel?
00:31<jkoenig>themusicgod1: when did it start / what did you change ?
00:31<twb>!kfreebsd
00:31<dpkg>from memory, debian gnu/kfreebsd is a port that consists of the GNU userland on top of the FreeBSD kernel, coupled with the Debian tools and packages. There is a BSD libc5 port, but the Glibc port is being focused on more. http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/ or Penix' almighty official installation guide can be found here: http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/
00:31<twb>!kfreebsd channel
00:31<twb>Bah.
00:31<jkoenig>themusicgod1: are you in the middle of an upgrade or something ?
00:31<themusicgod1>not to my knowledge, i did however lose power today
00:32<twb>Ah, #gnu-kbsd on freenode.
00:33<newsense>themusicgod1,aotitude update give any errors ?
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00:33<themusicgod1>well
00:34<themusicgod1>since my network drivers didn't load on boot...
00:34<newsense>excuse me /s/sotitude/aptitude
00:34<jkoenig>themusicgod1: you may want to try booting in single-user mode and 'fsck -f <your root filesystem dev>'
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00:34<jkoenig>also, you can try 'echo /lost+found/*' to see if there's anything there.
00:34<jkoenig>since echo is (probably) a shell builtin it should work.
00:34<themusicgod1>good idea
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00:35<jkoenig>you're using ext3 as your root filesystem, right ?
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00:36<newsense>dumpe2fs /dev/partition# should let ya know that
00:37<newsense>wrong chan
00:37<themusicgod1>i think ext2
00:37<themusicgod1>might be ext3 though
00:40<themusicgod1>sweet, magicsrq remounted ro
00:40<themusicgod1>twas ext2 a
00:40<tosi>anyway to vent on debian?
00:40<tosi>ventrilo
00:41<jkoenig>themusicgod1: do you have any installation media handy ?
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00:42<jkoenig>themusicgod1: I would boot in rescue mode, check the disk and try something like 'apt-get install --reinstall libc6 libc6-i686 libselinux1 libattr1' or something.
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00:43<themusicgod1>jkoenig: i might
00:43<jkoenig>since everything is segfaulting there must be something wrong with one of the basic shared libraries.
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00:43<jkoenig>however you should backup your data ASAP if it's possible (maybe from the rescue mode ?),
00:44<jkoenig>it seems to me you're in a pretty bad situation
00:44<themusicgod1>hopefully only root will die
00:44<themusicgod1>i have 4 other hard drives that haven't given me any indication of failure
00:44<themusicgod1>er
00:44<themusicgod1>3
00:44<themusicgod1>but I do mostly have backups
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00:44<jkoenig>good :-)
00:45<themusicgod1>...and I'm trying to buy another hard drive to get the rest asap
00:45<themusicgod1>(my computer doesn't have sata, so that'll mean an entirely new box by the looks...)
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00:48<dmoerner>is there way to set it so that the title of an xterm will update to the new hostname if you are ssh'd into a machine?
00:49<jkoenig>themusicgod1: it's possible that your drive is healthy but your filesystem is screwed up.
00:49<dmoerner>my xterm is still called dmr@eee:/home/dmr even though I am ssh'd into another machine with another username
00:49<jkoenig>themusicgod1: you could e2fsck -c your filsystem to check for bad blocks on your disk.
00:51<jkoenig>dmoerner: it's your remote shell which changes the xterm title (or not)
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00:52<dmoerner>jkoenig: thanks for the tip; there is no .bashrc on the remote host which explains why
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01:57<gerard>lol
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03:11<paparsifal>hi
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03:13<paparsifal>can someone help me with an issue on a cron job : "man-db"
03:13<paparsifal>i'm receiving a permission denied error and i don't understand
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03:38<wakariera>any help on how i can get libflashplaye installed onto mozilla
03:38<jm_>you can install the package or copy it manually
03:38<wakariera>etch i386
03:39<wakariera>whn i run a terminal it says wuldn find it due to glib 2.4 version
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03:43<EmleyMoor>Is "flashplayer-mozilla" in dmm vwhat you seek?
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04:16<wakariera>wat d u mean by dmm sorry
04:16<EmleyMoor>!dmm#
04:16<EmleyMoor>!dmm
04:16<dpkg>methinks dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny>
04:17<wakariera>oo yeah i have tht in my sources.list sorry
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04:22<wakariera>dmm etch
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04:46<syntech>dpkg kde4
04:46<dpkg>kde4 is a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4 packages are likely to be made. (For lenny backports, see http://kde4.debian.net/) See http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/06/08/lets-go-for-kde-359-in-lenny/ <Experimental> packages for KDE 4.1 are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde, not #debian. See <kde version>.
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04:47<syntech>fluxbox is old :|
04:49<Txt-file>syntech: based on your needs ... I use openbox even in gnome
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04:52<syntech>looks sexy :)
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04:56<zezelle>bonjour
04:56<syntech>Bonjour zezelle, commet ale vous?
04:56<syntech>^^
04:56<zezelle>cava
04:57<zezelle>je suis nouveau
04:57<OdyX>!fr
04:57<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
04:57<syntech>ah
04:57<syntech>:D
04:57<zezelle>sous debian
04:57<OdyX>under Debian ?
04:57<zezelle>jai un probleme
04:57<syntech>zezelle
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04:57<syntech>irc.oftc.net
04:58<syntech>#debian-fr
04:58<zezelle>avec mon wifi
04:58<syntech>goto french room on irc.oftc.net because we speak mainly english
04:58<syntech>!fr
04:58<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
04:58<zezelle>okays
04:58<syntech>Am sorry ^^
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04:59<zezelle> you speacking english
04:59<syntech>>.>
04:59<syntech>yes if that is what you may call it :D
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05:00<syntech>guys, where is a really good linux command reference, i am trying to figure out how to mount my windows drive ( cept i forgot whether its /dev/hda or /dev/hda2) or whatever
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05:01<u6ttsinono>hello !
05:01<EmleyMoor>syntech: Tried "man mount"?
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05:01<Iv>:o
05:01<syntech>no
05:01<syntech>i know how to mount it lol
05:01<u6ttsinono>OLOLOL
05:02<Iv>xD
05:02<jm_>!tell syntech -about grounding
05:02<syntech>i meant, whats the command to find where the partition could be
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05:02<u6ttsinono>Ivan
05:02<jm_>cat /proc/partitions
05:02<Iv>un koi? :o
05:02<syntech>thanks.
05:02<syntech>o they are all sda not hda >_>
05:03<Iv>what? :o
05:03<u6ttsinono>Tu pues la merde :)
05:03<syntech>no you! lol
05:03<Iv>ahhhhhh (i)
05:03<Iv>xD
05:03<u6ttsinono>xD
05:04<Iv>thx <3
05:04<syntech>got it
05:04<syntech>in /dev/sda3 rofl xD
05:04<jm_>retards usually go away quickly if you leave them alone, especially if they are frog and snail eaters
05:04<syntech>ty jm_
05:05<Iv>putain je me ft chier :o
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05:06<syntech>lawl
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05:45<snogglethorpe>what's the easiest way to use a newer kernel image with an existing debian install .iso? [my system has an ethernet device that doesn't seem to be recognized in the kernel distributed with the lenny .isos, but I think is in some newer kernel]
05:45<snogglethorpe>should I stick the kernel on a floppy or something...?
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05:45<snogglethorpe>(then can I use the .iso from the cd drive?)
05:45<gsimmons>snogglethorpe: Which Ethernet device do you have?
05:46<snogglethorpe>Intel 82567LM-3
05:46<snogglethorpe>pci id is 8086:10de
05:46<snogglethorpe>which seems to be in the pci ids DB, but not in the pci.ids list on my debian system
05:46<snogglethorpe>(the former, i mean the pci ids DB i find on the net)
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05:47<snogglethorpe>so I'm guessing i just need a slightly newer driver
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05:49<themill>snogglethorpe: that pciid isn't matched by the 2.6.27 kernel either...
05:50<snogglethorpe>hm
05:50<wolfaba>hi, anyone can help me with apt/preferences? I have a package XYZ in version 1.2.3-1etch1 installed. Now there is an upgrade version 1.2.3-2etch1 for this package. But this package version has a little bug, so I need to ignore this version and keep old version and install next future version. I have tried to Pin this version using priority -1 but the upgrade come still. If I ping currently installed version to 1001, upgrade is ignore, but IMHO later it will no
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05:57<snogglethorpe>themill: commit seems to be f4187b56e1f8a05dd110875d5094b21b51ebd79b in linus's tree
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05:58<snogglethorpe>not sure how to find a tag from that using gitweb... :-)
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06:03<OdyX>Hi. Could somebody ping phpnet.org for me ?
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06:05<petemc>http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/phpnet.org
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06:06<OdyX>petemc: Okay. thanks !
06:06*OdyX bookmarks.
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06:09<Phaselock>Does anyone know if there is a ubuntu distro that work 'out of the box' with Acer Aspire 150?
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06:10<jm_>Phaselock: this is about debian, not ubuntu
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06:10<Txt-file>what problems do you have with the aspire 150 under debian??
06:10<Phaselock>Sorry...
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06:10<themill>!laptops
06:10<dpkg>All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <netbook>, <laptop mode>.
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06:12<Phaselock>Thanks!
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06:21<snogglethorpe>themill: ok, that commit seems to be v2.6.27-rc4-296-gf4187b5, according to git describe, so I guess the change should be in 2.6.27?
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06:28<snogglethorpe>are their installer .isos with a 2.6.27 kernel anywhere around?
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06:31<OdyX>snogglethorpe: no. Lenny and Sid actually ship a 2.6.26
06:31<snogglethorpe>ugh
06:31<OdyX>And AFAIK, there are no installers for experimental
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06:31<snogglethorpe>even just repackaging an iso looks annoying, judging from the online docs...
06:32<petemc>there are no installers for sid either
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06:32<petemc>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel
06:33<OdyX>snogglethorpe: can't you install a basic system and _then_ change your kernel version ?
06:33<OdyX>snogglethorpe: with the "CD-1", you would have a full "standard" Debian, installable without internet connection
06:33<snogglethorpe>OdyX: hm i guess i could if i downloaded a big iso
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06:33<OdyX>(with the BlueRay, you can have all the i386 binaries and their sources of Debian)
06:33<snogglethorpe>OdyX: i'm used to using buisnesscard etc
06:34<petemc>bluray?
06:35<themill>snogglethorpe: kmuto's site claims to be using the 2.6.27 pci mappings and it doesn't match that card. Perhaps his kernel mappings haven't been updated fully.
06:36<themill>snogglethorpe: Your other option is to install etch (or lenny) with no network connection and then install a custom kernel onto the machine afterwards and then complete the rest of your installation.
06:36<OdyX>petemc: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/01/msg00002.html
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06:37<petemc>good shit
06:38<snogglethorpe>themill: oddly, the id doesn't seem to be in pci_ids.h
06:38<snogglethorpe>themill: but the e1000e driver has it in its internal header file
06:39<OdyX>Now you can say "Download Debian (yes, all Debian)" : http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-bd/debian-testing-amd64-BD-1.jigdo
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06:44<snogglethorpe>ok, i guess using cd-1 without the network at first is probably the easiest
06:44<snogglethorpe>(any handy .27 debs around that I could use afterwards, or just build my own?)
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06:48<themill>snogglethorpe: there are snapshots of the kernel-team's work in progress available. They may or may not be usable... you'll have to work that out for yourself :) http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel
06:48<snogglethorpe>ergh
06:48<snogglethorpe>:-)
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07:10<lothar>Hi, I have a problem with my sound. Having a Mac mini, Debian Etch, sound is well. But when plugging in my webcam (Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX), nothing is working, even reconfigured alsa. I have installed alsa-base, alsa-utils, esound, esound-common and more. Any help ?
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07:29<path>http://pastebin.com/f27297c71
07:29<path>any ideas? I'm trying to install apache tomcat
07:30<path>execute especifically
07:31<OdyX>path: installed tomcat from the Debian repositories ?
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07:39<mundi>witam
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07:42<path>OdyX, nope, its not available on debian repositories
07:43<OdyX>path: package tomcat5.5
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07:43<path>OdyX, I need tomcat 6
07:43<OdyX>you are difficult ;)
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07:44<OdyX>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=413906 <- in case..
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07:46<alien123>hi I am trying to load a 2003 server in a Virtual Box OSE in Debian lenny ....I get the error
07:46<alien123>Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root.
07:46<alien123>VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).I get same error while trying to run linux images in virtual box as well .Please advise
07:46<OdyX>can't help you more path...
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07:46<OdyX>alien123: the error is self-explanatory...
07:46<OdyX>install the virtual-box-ose-module
07:46<simo>ciao
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07:48<path>thanks OdyX
07:48<path>didnt notice it was on lenny
07:48<path>source I mean
07:48<alien123>how do we check which all modules are installed ?
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07:50<OdyX>dpkg -l virtualbox-ose-modules*
07:50<dpkg>No packages found matching virtualbox-ose-modules*
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07:50<OdyX>shut up dpkg
07:50<OdyX>dpkg hit me.
07:50*dpkg kicks me..
07:50<OdyX>dpkg hit me
07:50*dpkg kicks odyx.
07:50<OdyX>Thanks ;)
07:51<pippo>How can I install tahoma fonts in my debian lenny?
07:51<path>msttcorefonts
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07:51<lothar>Hi, any hints to get running a Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX ?
07:51<OdyX>!webcam
07:51<dpkg>hmm... webcam is a method to setup a webcam using Debian: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm, or mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:outfmt=yv12:device=/dev/video0 See also <quickcam>, <gspca>, <uvcvideo>.
07:52<alien123>I have pretty much tried installing all the packages that we get after we get when we get aptitude search virtualbox
07:52<OdyX>!tell lothar about quickcam
07:52<pippo>I've already installed msttcorefonts but when i try to set the fonts in kde I don't have tahoma in the list!
07:52<OdyX>Tahoma is a non-free font => sucks anyway.
07:53<pippo>And then? What's the best not ugly and relaxing font sets for my eyes?
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07:54<OdyX>pippo: that's your choice ;)
07:55<pippo>I wondering what is the set of fonts and the font configuration of some distro desktop oriented. Where can I check it? I should install then and check? :-)
07:56<OdyX>DejaVu ;)
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07:56<pippo>they are used on default in opensuse..is it? ;-)
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07:57<jm_>lothar: did you try gspca?
07:57<jm_>or at least checked if it supports that webcam
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07:58<jm_>I guess not then
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08:03<alien123>what virtualbox-ose modules are required for 2003 server and whenever I update a OSE module it gets added to my Grub...Should I boot with corresponding module to simulate a server ?
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08:04<simonrvn>2003 server?
08:04<Txt-file>alien123: there is only one virtualbox-ose-modules
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08:05<alien123>yes that is instlled and also I installed some others like virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6-48 2:2.6.26-6 ...etc but still I get same error
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08:06<Txt-file>then run 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root
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08:07<simonrvn>it even tells you what to do, that message.
08:07<alien123>It returns blank
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08:07<simonrvn>yes, it's supposed to if it succeeded
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08:08<alien123>buut still when I try to start a VM I get error again VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE...:-)
08:08<alien123>:-(
08:09<simonrvn>are you in vboxuser group?
08:09<alien123>how do we check that ?
08:10<Valtiel-ASD>install virtualbox-ose
08:10<OdyX>type "groups"
08:10<Valtiel-ASD>and kernel module
08:11<Valtiel-ASD>and start modprobe of virtual box as root
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08:18<Valtiel-ASD>how can i mount afp shares from mac ?
08:18<Valtiel-ASD>on debian
08:18<Valtiel-ASD>???
08:19<Gekz>enable samba
08:19<Gekz>on both machines
08:19<simonrvn>you don't
08:19<Valtiel-ASD>on mac shared afp and i need mount this on debian
08:19<Valtiel-ASD>no
08:19<simonrvn>you don't
08:19<Valtiel-ASD>i need afp mount
08:19<simonrvn>not possible
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08:19<Gekz>then write a driver.
08:19<Valtiel-ASD>server not my
08:19<simonrvn>there's an old 2.2 driver you can forward port ;p
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08:19<simonrvn>(good luck with that)
08:20<Valtiel-ASD>i see that afp mounting it's iposible ?
08:20<simonrvn>...
08:20<Valtiel-ASD>no fuse module or mounyt utility for that ?
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08:21<simonrvn>no
08:21<Valtiel-ASD>(((
08:21<simonrvn>write one
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08:21<Valtiel-ASD>this is bad
08:21<Valtiel-ASD>(((
08:21<simonrvn>you'll make a lot of mac <-> linux users happy
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08:21<simonrvn>like Gekz said, enable samba on both. bug the sysadmin to do that
08:22<Valtiel-ASD>on mac it's doing mount -t afp afp://username:password@ip_of_server/share /path/for/mount
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08:22<simonrvn>this isn't mac os
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08:22<Valtiel-ASD>i know
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08:23<Valtiel-ASD>on mac this work
08:23<Valtiel-ASD>on debian is not (((
08:23<simonrvn>yes, but this is irrelevant
08:23<Gekz>!afp
08:23<Gekz>the bot doesnt know
08:24<Gekz>lols.
08:24<jm_>must be irrelevant
08:24*jm_ runs
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08:24<Gekz>dpkg: afp is not available on Linux.
08:24<dpkg>Gekz: okay
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08:24<Gekz>!afp
08:24<dpkg>methinks afp is not available on Linux.
08:24<Gekz>win
08:25<Valtiel-ASD>(((
08:25<Valtiel-ASD>how can i mount sshfs on debian &
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08:25<Valtiel-ASD>on mac os i use sshfs utility with mac fuse
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08:26<Valtiel-ASD>sftp working
08:26<Valtiel-ASD>but i need mount
08:26<jm_>how about apt-get install sshfs?
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08:26<Valtiel-ASD>i see thx
08:27<simonrvn>Gekz: hehe
08:27<simonrvn>!win Gekz
08:27<dpkg>Congratulations, Gekz! You have won second prize in a beauty contest!
08:27<Gekz>my girlfriend got first.
08:28<simonrvn>jm_: hehe
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08:37<lothar>Hi again. I got running my cam :-)
08:37<lothar>Some more questions: What can I best use to record video from the cam with sound ?
08:37<OdyX>Cool lothar !
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08:38<lothar>Don't know what the solution was, but at least the rights of /dev/video0.
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08:38<jm_>lothar: add yourself to group video
08:39<OdyX>lothar: I'd use vlc
08:39<lothar>Ok. But yust a question before I leave: How about LMMS ?
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08:39<lothar>vlc does capture from /dev/video0 ?
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08:40<lothar>BTW, #video group is empty :-)
08:41<jm_>uhm unix group video, as in adduser username video
08:42<lothar>Ahh. I understand. I just changed the rights what may be the wrong way :-)
08:43<jm_>indeed, it will be back to old value after reboot
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08:43<lothar>What about vlc. Does it run as client to show me the video, or does it sit as server and provides me streaming ?
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08:44<jm_>vlc can do streaming too, but I have no idea if it can do v4l
08:45<lothar>Ok, best would be having a look at v4l site to find software tips...
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08:45<jm_>or just search for v4l in Debian
08:45<jm_>camserv - Stream live video out onto the web
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08:47<lothar>Ok, my cam is private, except sip or skype. But not really tested ;-)
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08:49<lothar>Another question I may be interested: I have a dnt EuroStar mini DVB-T USB 2 adapter. Is there any driver I could simply install + TV sw ?
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08:50<Tengu>hello
08:50<petemc>lothar: apt-cache search dvb ,theres a few apps
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08:51<Txt-file>lothar: what about vlc?
08:51<Tengu>I have a question about /etc/resolv.conf : I added some domains on "search" line (toto.com titi.com tata). I try a "host zozo", which is in "titi.com" zone.... but it doesn't resolv. tcpdump shows me that it only tries on "toto.com" zone...
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08:52<Tengu>I tried it on etch and lenny system.
08:52<lothar>Txt-file: Wait, I will test...
08:52<Tengu>as far as I know, there are no special configurations on these hosts....
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08:53<Tengu>does anyone know why it doesn't probe on the other zones ?
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08:57<lothar>Txt-file: After changing the video4linux video device to be /dev/video0 not /dev/video it works in vlc. Great. I will see what the sound makes ...
08:58<Txt-file>lothar: thinked that vlc can play DVB-T
08:58<jm_>Tengu: how are you testing this?
08:58<And1>Anyone knows, when a new version of linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 will be in lenny's repo?
08:58<lothar>Not yet tested. I first tested my QuickCam :-)
08:59<Tengu>jm_: like I said.... putting infos in resolv.con, then using "host" with tcpdump port 53
08:59<Tengu>jm_: if I "host zozo.titi.com" it works....
08:59<jm_>Tengu: don't use host
08:59<lothar>My DVB-T is Bus 004 Device 008: ID 13d3:3205 IMC Networks...
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09:00<Tengu>hm.... I don't want to be rude.... but on my laptop [gentoo..] it works. with "host" command.
09:00<jm_>use getent to test it
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09:00<Tengu>getent ? mmm... don't know this one.
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09:02<Tengu>jm_: which DB should I ask with getent ?
09:02<jm_>Tengu: hosts
09:02<Tengu>hosts ??? what's the point with the resolver ?!
09:03<Tengu>we have a dns server.
09:03<jm_>ok so don't do what people tell you and figure it out yourself
09:04<And1>How do I purge all packages, which are marked as "rc" in 'dpkg -l'?
09:04<jm_>And1: the easiest is with aptitude
09:04<Tengu>jm_: http://paste.sangor.net/yes/one/384 my resolv.conf.....
09:04<lothar>What driver do I need for my DVB-T USB adapter (didn't find anything 'USB' in apt-cache search for dvb) ?
09:04<lothar>My DVB-T is Bus 004 Device 008: ID 13d3:3205 IMC Networks...
09:05<Tengu>and if I compare getent hosts output on my laptop and the servers, they are the same....
09:05<Tengu>[well, hostnames aren't the same of course.]
09:06<And1>jm_: How would I do that? Any hints? :)
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09:06<jm_>And1: aptitude purge '~c'
09:07<And1>jm_: Great, thanks. Think I already asked this once, I'll try to remember it this time. =)
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09:10<gsimmons>lothar: dvb-usb-vp7045 (according to http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/USB). You'll need firmware, see linuxtv.org.
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09:13<mabu>hi, how can i determine the processor architecture (x86_64, x86, i386,...) without using infos from /proc?
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09:14<lothar>There I was 2 minutes before. Do I only need the firmware, or must I install more ?
09:14<gsimmons>lothar: Again, see linuxtv.org. The information is there.
09:14<lothar>Ok.
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09:16<jm_>Tengu: I can see it asking my nameserver about all entries, but it can't find it in hosts file for whatever reason
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09:16<Tengu>jm_: mmm.... it asks our nameserver about only one entry....
09:17<Tengu>and that's really weird.
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09:19<ethen637>hello
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09:20<jm_>Tengu: I am testing it with lenny, how did you check it?
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09:22<Tengu>jm_: I just edited resolv.conf file (added domains on search line), then ran a "tcpdump port 53" on this server, then "host <incomplete name>". tcpdump shows me dns requests.
09:22<Tengu>and there was only ONE dns request.
09:22<Tengu>matching only the first entry in "search".
09:23<Tengu>jm_: I tried to switch entries order, and it was all the same : only ONE request, with the first entry in "search" field....
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09:23<jm_>Tengu: I used strace and I can see both
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09:24<Tengu>jm_: oho.... really NICE : host is weird. when I use "ping uncomplet-name", it works !
09:25<jm_>Tengu: that's why I told you to use getent!
09:25<Tengu>oO neither dig works.....
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09:26<Guest588>hola
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09:27<Tengu>that's just... weird. works with "host" on ubuntu and gentoo wrk... maybe version's too old.
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09:42<lothar>Now I have listed the module dvb_usb_vp7045 as of lsmod: usbcore 146752 10 dvb_usb_vp7045,dvb_usb,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,hci_usb,usbhid,gspca,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd. I tried then to usw gxine, but failed due to missing plugins. Then I didn't found any plugins for xine. Any poiters ?
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09:48<enouf>why do you need libqt4-debug?
09:48<enouf>!tell lothar -about search
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09:54<ethen637>hey a nyone
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10:33<avtobiff>isn't it possible to install single boot debian on macbook anymore?
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10:33<OdyX>!macbook
10:33<dpkg>hmm... macbook is http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook or now known to work under bootcamp, details still sparse
10:34<avtobiff>i did it earlier and installed grub, but the section that says howto on the wiki isn't there anymore
10:35<avtobiff>does grub understand lvm? or do i have to have a separate /boot partition for that?
10:35<avtobiff>maybe that is the problem.
10:35<andrea_>xdcc
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10:36<OdyX>avtobiff: AFAIK, having a ~256Mb /boot in ext3 is th way to go.
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10:37<avtobiff>OdyX, yeah
10:37<avtobiff>OdyX, i'll take that path.
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10:39<dareth>trying to migrate a squid.conf file to a new box, but the new box will not start squid with the old file.
10:39<dareth>debian etch on both boxes.
10:40<dareth>I think it is user related, but missing where this is set in the squid.conf file.
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10:54<renatokrause>hi
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10:55<renatokrause>i have a problem upgrading my etch to lenny
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10:55<renatokrause>newsense show me a bot with information, i do all and nothing
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10:56<Txt-file>!etch->lenny
10:56<themill>dpkg etch->lenny
10:56<dpkg>Ensure your etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of etch or stable to lenny. aptitude update; aptitude install dpkg aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Subscribe to <d-d-a> so you know what is going on and ask me about <apt-listbugs> <lenny release notes>.
10:56<renatokrause>when i execute:
10:56<renatokrause>aptitude install dpkg aptitude
10:56<themill>Txt-file: you can't use ! on factoids that have -> in the name. Don't ask why.
10:57<renatokrause>nothing install
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10:57<Txt-file>themill: kk .. didn't know it
10:57<renatokrause>themill, i try this and many how to of internet and nothing
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10:57<renatokrause>i dont know what can i do more....
10:57<themill>renatokrause: can you please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1"
10:58<renatokrause>sure
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11:03<renatokrause>themill, http://pastebin.com/d393715e7
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11:05<renatokrause>glibc?
11:05<renatokrause>or coreutils?
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11:09<themill>renatokrause: can you please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" and the contents of /etc/apt/preferences
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11:09<renatokrause>"dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" is in line 46 of last past bin...
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11:10<Guest604>hi
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11:10<renatokrause>themill, http://pastebin.com/d7a6813a2
11:11<Guest604>do you speak spanish
11:11<kop>!tell Guest604 -about es
11:11<Guest604>yes
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11:15<renatokrause>themill, need remove flashplugin-nonfree?
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11:16<Guest604>bye
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11:20<renatokrause>anybody haved problem change etch to lenny?
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11:22<tosi>fuck im trying to move 1gb of files to my debian computer from my main computer i dont know what the best way will be
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11:23<simonrvn>mv ? cp ? rsync ?
11:23<tosi>tried seeding a torrent of the files and seeding the .torrent file to myself but that didnt work... i cant get debian and windows sharing working... what should i do
11:23<simonrvn>get it to work
11:23<renatokrause>anybody has a idea what can i do?
11:24<renatokrause>i begin to think in back to slackware
11:24<tosi>simonrvn: how? ive tried for awhile
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11:27<Slown>hello
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11:27<Slown>I have problem with squiguard
11:27<Slown>I configure it but filter doesn't work
11:27<Slown>where is the problem ?
11:27<Slown>thanks
11:27<simonrvn>renatokrause: /msg dpkg bts
11:28<Slown>http://pastebin.com/m230376f2
11:28<simonrvn>Slown: lemme check my crystal ball
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11:28<Slown>this is my /etc/squid/squidGuard.conf
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11:28<renatokrause>simonrvn, maybe a bug? that no let i upgrade to lenny?
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11:28<renatokrause>oh no
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11:29<renatokrause>how install the GNU C Library?
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11:30<renatokrause>I WINNNN!!!
11:30<renatokrause>I DO
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11:31<renatokrause>themill, u show me a way
11:31<tosi>this is really pissing me off.... how can i get large files from computer to computer?
11:31<renatokrause>themill, very thanks
11:31<metalqga>!build-essential
11:31<dpkg>rumour has it, build-essential is a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>.
11:35<renatokrause>!gcc
11:35<dpkg>the GNU Compiler Collection. see http://gcc.gnu.org/ or #gcc. In order to change which version it should use "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-$whatever", or /usr/bin symlinks (gcc, g++, et al) are not handled using Debian <alternatives>, see /usr/share/doc/gcc/README.Debian.gz, or ask me about <gcc-doc>
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11:35<renatokrause>!libc
11:35<dpkg>somebody said libc was the c runtime library,linux universe knows glibc (gnu libc) as libc,too.see glibc..
11:35<renatokrause>!glibc
11:35<dpkg>i heard glibc is at http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis/glibc/index.old.html. GNU libc, also known as libc6 in the Linux universe. glibc is the most fundamental piece of software on your machine, basically every piece of software you have installed other than your kernel depends on it, so upgrading it is essentially upgrading your entire system/debian release/version.
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11:36<renatokrause>!kernel etch
11:36<renatokrause>!kernel->etch
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11:36<stew>renatokrause: what are you trying to do?
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11:37<renatokrause>stew, nothing. i never use bot before. i look what it can do
11:37<stew>renatokrause: you can /msg the bot directly to cut down on the noise in the channel
11:37<renatokrause>stew, ahhh ok
11:37<renatokrause>sorry all
11:37<stew>renatokrause: np :)
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11:38<stew>renatokrause: you also might want to look at "/msg dpkg help" and "/msg dpkg your factoids"
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11:39<renatokrause>stew, where can i do post one thing happens to me when i upgrade etch to lenny?
11:39<simonrvn>!paste
11:39<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!
11:39<simonrvn>^^^ renatokrause
11:39<renatokrause>stew, i was solucione
11:39<metalqga>simonrvn you are lightning fast
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11:39<simonrvn>i was taking my time, heh
11:41<stew>renatokrause: i'm not sure what you mean by that, "solucione"
11:43<renatokrause>stew, i kill the problem and eat it in my bf.
11:43<simonrvn>solution in italian
11:44<renatokrause>:D
11:44<renatokrause>im a latin man
11:44*simonrvn speaks french, italian isn't too different
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11:45<metalqga>hahaha fo fo fo fo :D
11:45<renatokrause>simonrvn, and portugues and french to
11:45<simonrvn>and spanish
11:45<renatokrause>yeah!
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11:45<renatokrause>and latin
11:45<metalqga>and romanian
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11:46<renatokrause>romanian????
11:46<metalqga>:P
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11:46<renatokrause>serious?
11:46<renatokrause>i dont know about romanian language
11:47<metalqga>me too
11:48<renatokrause>:D
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11:50<Harlan>renatokrause, romanian it's a latin language too
11:50<renatokrause>Harlan, :D
11:50<Harlan>;)
11:51<metalqga>Bulgarian Russian ... are in the slav language group, greek and hebrew are totally different/unique (as language groups)
11:51<renatokrause>oriental
11:51<renatokrause>african
11:52<metalqga>do you have any debian related questions?
11:52<renatokrause>no... i kill the last of mine...
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12:03<simonrvn>!shoot bugs
12:03*dpkg blows bugs away with a wand of fireballs
12:04*goodger laughs and claps his hands
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12:05<johnfg>hi guys
12:06<scorpio28>hi!
12:06<goodger>hi
12:06<johnfg>I see that exportfs is in the man page for exports, but I can't find exportfs anywhere. Have searched for it in synaptic package manager.
12:06<johnfg>Any ideas where it is? Or do we have an equivalent in debian lenny?
12:06<goodger>likely it's built into the kernel
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12:08<renatokrause>goodger, oh yeah!
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12:08<renatokrause>johnfg, http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_exportfs.htm
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12:08<johnfg>goodger, Thanks for the suggestion. Different than Fedora 10, it can't be run by user, without permission, but works for root.
12:09<goodger>oh, it's not actually a filesystem but an NFS command. shows what I know
12:09<goodger>looks like it'll be in nfs-server-something then
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12:10<renatokrause>export the filesystem table to NFS
12:10<themill>renatokrause: is your etch->lenny problem fixed?
12:10<renatokrause>better, manager them.
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12:10<renatokrause>themill, yes!!! very thanks!
12:10<renatokrause>very very very thanks
12:11<renatokrause>is the /etc/apt/preferences
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12:12<renatokrause>i remove flash: apt-get --purge remove flash.....
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12:12<renatokrause>remove entry of flash of file
12:12-!-mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ
12:12<renatokrause>and change stable to testing
12:12-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*@122.162.65.105] by azeem
12:12-!-Angelina was kicked from #debian by azeem [you should know better]
12:12-!-mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem
12:12<themill>thanks, azeem
12:12<goodger>huzzah!
12:13<renatokrause>and apt-get update.......
12:13*goodger will investigate that site to see whether it violates blogger's TOS
12:13<renatokrause>and work
12:13<themill>renatokrause: the entire contents of your preferences file are unneeded in fact. But if you're sorted then that's fine.
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12:13<goodger>damn, it doesn't
12:13<renatokrause>themill, where can i read about /etc/apt/preferences?
12:14<renatokrause>its fact, happen here
12:14<themill>renatokrause: man 5 apt_preferences
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12:14<renatokrause>before change the stable to testindo, after remove flash, i apt-get update and nothing
12:14<renatokrause>thanks again
12:14<a-j>hello
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12:17<a-j>I try to install kde4.2 from kde42.debian.net, but in meta-kde4, version of kde4-minimal package is different (4~r0) of other k* package (kdebase 4.1.96). And when i type apt-get install kde4-minimal, i have depends errors
12:17<a-j>errors*
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12:18<renatokrause>themill, [...]The APT preferences file does not affect the choice of
12:18<renatokrause> instance, only the choice of version.[...]"
12:18<stew>a-j: ask #debian-kde
12:18<a-j>oh ok ! thx
12:19-!-mode/#debian [+l 386] by debhelper
12:19<renatokrause>themill, if i dont change the choice of version, who change? apt in comand upgrade?
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12:29<themill>renatokrause: it means that the preferences file doesn't let you choose which mirror apt will use to download from. It only lets you choose which version of a package is going to be downloaded.
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12:32<rjent>Greetings, how would I tell if I had arial font on my system?
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12:32<goodger>rjent: typically applications such as openoffice will display it in their list of available fonts
12:32<goodger>it will also appear in nautilus's fonts:/// location
12:32<cahoot>fc-list | grep -i arial ?
12:33<fxiny>xlsfonts | grep arial
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12:34<rjent>cahoot and fxiny: not listed so I guess not
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12:35<renatokrause>themill, case upgrade etch to lenny has version of a package diferente so need change in preferences, its?
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12:36<themill>renatokrause: your pinning was very strange... it basically said "never install any packages".
12:37<rjent>cahoot and fxiny: is there a package I can install that would include the arial font or perhaps I should search for a ttf and put in /usr/share/fonts ?
12:37<fxiny>renatokrause: iirc you want msttcorefonts which pulls cabextract
12:37<cahoot>msttcorefonts?
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12:43<renatokrause>themill, wrote Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable
12:43<renatokrause>themill, only packages stable, right?
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12:43<renatokrause>stable=etch
12:43<themill>renatokrause: why are you playing with pinning at all?
12:44<renatokrause>themill, sorry, dont understand
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12:44<goodger>renatokrause: why are you pinning anything?
12:45<netzwurm>hey, is there a way to apt-pin by repository, not only by distribution? if I use third-party sid repositories I would like to be in absolute control of what gets pulled from there on updates.
12:45<themill>renatokrause: I do not believe you need to use any pinning at all. Your /etc/apt/preferences should be empty.
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12:45<themill>!pinning
12:45<dpkg>Pinning is a method to choose packages when multiple repositories are enabled in sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead.
12:46<themill>netzwurm: if they use a different "origin" tag then yes. Look at the output of apt-cache policy.
12:46<renatokrause>themill, ahh, now i understood
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12:46<netzwurm>themill: thanks.
12:46<renatokrause>i touch this file i thing
12:46<renatokrause>think*
12:46<renatokrause>when install the flash
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12:47<stew>netzwurm: but note that pinning will not make it possible for you to tell apt to prefer one repository over another when the same version of a package is available from both. pinning only lets you prever one version of a package over a different version
12:47<renatokrause>themill, can i: rm /etc/apt/preferences ?
12:48<adama>Am I missing some fonts package or something? http://overdrive.polarcom.com/Screenshot22.png
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12:48<netzwurm>stew: right. the concrete case is that I am pulling git snapshots of a package present in debian from a third-party repository while that repository has snapshots for other packages too.
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12:49<tosi>so ive got my windows pc seeing my debian laptop on the network... but when i click on the debian network icon it says for a user/pw how can i config one?
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12:49<themill>renatokrause: either that or just delete all the lines from it.
12:49<rubita_15>ola
12:49<adama>(the Degrees symbol appears as a box with a X in it) http://overdrive.polarcom.com/Screenshot22.png
12:49<rubita_15>ai alguien por aki
12:50<adama>!es
12:50<stew>!es
12:50<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:50<goodger>adama: possibly. ensure you have ttf-dejavu installed
12:50<rubita_15>kkkkkkkkk
12:50<adama>goodger: it is installed
12:50<rubita_15>en español
12:50<goodger>adama: is GNOME set to use that font for interface?
12:51<themill>adama: more likely, you need to tell gnome to use a font that has a reasonable set of glyphs present in it
12:51<adama>I think it says "DejaVu Sans Book"
12:51<goodger>themill: dejavu has a huge number of glyphs
12:52<adama>in "Appearance Preferences - Fonts - Application font"
12:52<themill>goodger: that's not much help if it isn't being used
12:52<goodger>adama: do you have the whole GNOME system installed? :S it looks like you're missing a theme at least
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12:53<tosi>so ive got my windows pc seeing my debian laptop on the network... but when i click on the debian network icon it says for a user/pw how can i config one?
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12:53<Tuplad>Could anyone help me out with my sound ? I have no sound in flashplayer, mplayer, totem etc. etc. except amarok. So systemwide = no sound. Here is all information about sound: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8947fcc837da94491a7cbe3cebf4d1cb4f69eb9b and here is output of speaker-test: http://pastebin.com/f4f21519e -- could anyone help ?
12:53<adama>hmmm, apt-get install gnome yields "165 newly installed"
12:54<goodger>adama: looks like you're missing a few packages then. would you care to pastebin the list?
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12:54<adama>ok
12:54<adama>http://pastebin.ca/1309324
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12:55<goodger>*tut* cat just came in, dried his muddy self on my bedspread and went out into the rain again
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12:56<goodger>adama: looks like that's being a bit overzealous. try gnome-desktop-environment instead? [pastebin]
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12:57<adama>goodger yeah... I already have everything I need, I sure don't need "cheese"..
12:57<goodger>would you mind pastebinning the output of aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment?
12:57<adama>http://pastebin.ca/1309326
12:57<goodger>thanks
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12:58<adama>gnome-themes?
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12:58<goodger>ok, I think you should install gtk2-engines-pixbuf and gnome-themes
12:59-!-mode/#debian [+l 394] by debhelper
12:59<mike_>goodger, lenny crashed me =P
12:59<goodger>mike_: ah. not good :S
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12:59<goodger>what are you using now?
12:59<goodger>and how did it crash? :S
12:59<mike_>goodger i dont know i think it was just the install i had bad video problems after updating
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13:00<goodger>ah
13:00<mike_>goodger, back to etch
13:00<goodger>wooo...p
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13:01<adama>goodger: it does not appear to have worked..
13:01<goodger>adama: you will need to choose a theme from the appearances manager and possibly log in/out
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13:02<adama>I did choose a theme and things updated but that didn't change
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13:03<adama>I don't really want to logout, I have more than 40 windows open...
13:04<goodger>ah
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13:04<mike_>This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
13:04<mike_>lol
13:04<goodger>may I please have another screenshot?
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13:08<tosi>im so pissed
13:08<tosi>ive tried everything to send files from ym windows box to my laptop with debian
13:08<tosi>network setup, dcc send..
13:08<metalqga>firewall? router?
13:09<themill>tosi: the simplest would be to use filezilla as an sftp client with your debian box as an ssh server
13:09<tosi>how would i do that?
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13:10<themill>tosi: have you already got an ssh client on the windows machine?
13:10<tosi>im installing filezilla server now
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13:10<themill>tosi: "aptitude install openssh" on the debian box
13:10<adama>goodger: ok I changed the font to "Tragic BRK" ...http://overdrive.polarcom.com/Screenshot24.png
13:11<tosi>i just dont understand, both xp and debian pcs are on the workgroup... but when i try to get in debian on the workgroup from my windows box it prompts for a usr/pw and i dont know how to config one
13:11<adama>makes no difference what font it is
13:11*themill gives adama the "world's ugliest font" award
13:11<adama>themill: oh I have worse
13:11<goodger>adama: hmm.
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13:12<goodger>first create a launcher on the desktop that opens gnome-terminal
13:12<themill>tosi: configuring samba on debian is non-trivial. Using filezilla will definitely be easier.
13:12<E0x>tosi: http://overdrive.polarcom.com/Screenshot24.png
13:12<E0x>ups
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13:12<E0x>tosi: read the man of smbpasswd
13:12<goodger>adama: then hit alt-f2 and type "killall gnome-panel"
13:12<E0x>with that you can create a samba user
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13:12<goodger>adama: with luck the panel will reappear by itself, otherwise you can launch it again using the terminal
13:13<tosi>E0x: that pic is of weather
13:13<E0x>tosi: that was a error
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13:13<E0x>sorry
13:13<tosi>kk j/w
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13:14<metalqga>me thinks using shared folders in the administration menu is the easiest way
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13:15<adama>goodger: didn't work. the panel restarted but still no degrees
13:15<fxiny>why not winscp ?
13:15<goodger>damn
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13:15<fxiny>tosi: try winscp
13:15<goodger>final really silly question: do you have unicode set up appropriately?
13:15<tosi>metalqga: i have my admin>shared folders setup and see them on the workgroup but cannot login
13:15<adama>tosi: or pscp
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13:16<stuc>hello adama
13:16<netzwurm>hm. one more thing. can you specify something like Pin: not release o=Debian in the /etc/apt/preferences?
13:16<netzwurm>i mean, is there a not operator?
13:16<adama>goodger: I dunnno, I asked about this in here before, that's why I had the old screenshot... no luck then either
13:16<E0x>tosi: just use smbpasswd to add your linux user to the samba db , and use that user from access the share in windows
13:16<adama>not a huge deal
13:16<goodger>½óñ --- do these appear properly?
13:16<E0x>same user and password
13:16<metalqga>tosi, and added the user's IP and wokgroup?
13:16<adama>hey stuc, hows the router?
13:16<stuc>adama not working but ive more information about it and was wondering if you might could help me further
13:16<tosi>metalqga: where do i add them?
13:17<adama>goodger: I can see the degrees on e.g. websites and whatnot
13:17<metalqga>in the shared folders General properties
13:17<adama>stuc ok
13:17<goodger>adama: are you on lenny?
13:17<metalqga>and the Ip is wher you add the dir
13:17<adama>goodger: yes
13:17<tosi>metalqga: my general prop. only shows workgroup name and WINS server
13:18<stuc>adama... its using something called PPPoE, but the people are connecting to it threw a wireless connection... they have to have this pppoe (client I suppose you would say) loged in to connect to the internet.
13:18<metalqga>thats for the workgrp, the ip is when you add the folder to share
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13:18<tosi>i have added the folder and was not prompted for ip
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13:18<goodger>adama: unfortunately I can't reproduce it on my lenny
13:18<tosi>in shared folder options it shows the path, share thru windows net, name (shared) and comment
13:18<fxiny>oh filezilla looks nice
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13:19<metalqga>there ALLOWED HOSTSu,tried with your username andp pass?
13:19<adama>stuc: I'm not familiar with PPPoE but there are tools for it on debian
13:19<adama>stuc: apt-cache search pppoe
13:20<tosi>yes when im on my windows box i try to connect to 'debian' found under workgroup and it asks for usr/pw... i type my only one in and it says incorrect... but it is adding "cc\"tosi prefix to my usrname (cc is my windows box computer name)
13:21<fxiny>tosi: workgroup ? you doing samba ?
13:21<metalqga>yes
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13:21<adama>stuc: apt-get install pppoeconf will give you "Applications - System Tools - ADSL/PPPoE Configuration"
13:21<adama>stuc: but I don't know anything about using it
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13:21<stuc>adama.... well i would do that but i dont have an internet connection. Im trying to figure out what I should do... the apt system isnt very useful without an internet connection.
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13:22<stuc>adama im sure I could figure this program out... but the problem is that im going to have to get it installed first.
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13:22<tosi>still nothing
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13:23<metalqga>tosi, sorry I misled you, the ip was only for NFS....
13:23<fxiny>tosi: winscp
13:23<metalqga>you still need to configure samba
13:23<adama>stuc you can get the .deb file and its dependencies .debs, copy them to the box with e.g. a usb key and use dpkg to install them
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13:23<tosi>how do i get into samba options
13:23<tosi>i have it installed thru aptitude
13:23<fxiny>i've seen filezilla screnshots and is ok but i believe winscp is simple
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13:23<stuc>adama ... oh god but that would be a nightmare... theres no way to figure out exactly what the dependencies are.
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13:24<stuc>adama essentiallz id be going threw a process of trial and error... burning up countless cds... debian wasnt designed to be used like that.
13:24<adama>tosi: just get pscp from the putty website, put it in C:\WINDOWS , then you can use pscp in windows command line just like scp
13:26<adama>stuc: I agree
13:26<ike>anybody know ho i can fix this ( compiling tvtime with corrected frequency scanning range ../plugins/greedyh.asm:21: error: extra qualification ‘DScalerFilterGreedyH::’ on member ‘filterDScaler_SSE’
13:26<adama>no unsecured APs in the area? :P
13:26<stuc>adama... this is germay
13:27<stuc>(im living in germay, so of coruse there arent any unsecured aps)
13:27<adama>I've been there, took my eeepc (with lenny :) there were some.
13:28<stuc>they were proptly secured after your departure
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13:28<adama>dang
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13:30<adama>stuc: well pppoeconf _should_ come on the debian CD, also here are the dependencies
13:30<adama>Depends: whiptail-provider | whiptail, ppp (>= 2.4.2+20040428-2) | pppoe (>= 3.0), ppp (>= 2.4.1.uus2-4), gettext-base (>= 0.13), sed (>= 3.95), modconf
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13:30<adama>for lenny
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13:31<stuc>adama... so if I download all of those packages, I can install them on my lenny machine... (im using PowerPC by the way)
13:32<stuc>i have two comptuers... one i cant use because when i put the cd in the installer sazs it cant find the ethernet driver... but that machine is i386 (intel)
13:32<stuc>the other has ethernet but it is powerpc... could zou give me a dependency list for powerpc?
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13:33<fxiny>adama: from my lenny logs : ppoeconf > libpcap0.0 modconf ppp
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13:34<fxiny>on a very basic lenny
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13:34<adama>stuc: should be the same dependencies
13:35<adama>stuc: on the i386 what CD version? I recall you need at least etchnahalf for e1000
13:35<stuc>whats e1000
13:35<adama>gigabit ethernet
13:35<adama>driver
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13:35<stuc>im using a asus p5q pro motherboard which has built in ethernet
13:35<goodger>...
13:35<stuc>but it doesnt work because the cd sazs it cant find the driver
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13:36<ribef>how can i find the i/o address range and irq resources that are assigned to a particular device? (this is for a card that uses ISA)
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13:38<adama>stuc: nice mobo:)
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13:38<stuc>adama... yeah, but its as good as a paper weight right now
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13:39<adama>stuc: try the i386 iso from here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
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13:39<adama>stuc: under netinst
13:39<stuc>adama sorrz
13:39<stuc>mz webclient fucked up
13:39<stuc>could zou please reapeat what zou just said
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13:39<fxiny>ribef: iirc isapnp something
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13:40<adama>try the netinst i386 iso from here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
13:40<stuc>zeah im having to use a friends computer over a webclient right now... its all i got
13:40<stuc>adama... that should haev drivers for mz motherbaord?
13:41<stoned>afternoon
13:41<adama>stuc: hold on
13:41<LostPlanet>help topic
13:41<LostPlanet>...
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13:41<stoned>what?
13:41<goodger>e?
13:41<goodger>*eh?
13:41<LostPlanet>what
13:42<LostPlanet>hmm
13:42<LostPlanet>sorry
13:42<LostPlanet>ignore that
13:42<stoned>I think you forgot a /
13:42<stoned>;)
13:42<LostPlanet>yea
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13:42<LostPlanet>how do i see the "topic" for this channel again
13:42<LostPlanet>other than leave and come back :)
13:42<stoned>LostPlanet, /topic
13:43<LostPlanet>thanks
13:43<stoned>LostPlanet, /topic #debian I think if you are outside
13:43<stoned>or in a diff window
13:43<stuc>adama okay
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13:48<stuc>hello
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13:49<tosi>im done... i cant share files
13:50<adama>stuc: it appears that motherboard has an Atheros L1e gigabit network interface, which is not supported until kernel 2.6.27, lenny is 2.6.26
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13:51<ribef>fxiny: thanks. i found out about a tool called hwinfo, it's giving me some information, but the device isn't really coming up: all the isapnp devices are listed as unknown. so im getting isapnptools from here [http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/] cause i couldnt find it the repository
13:51<stuc>adama... okay so I stick with the powerpc, OR, I use the wireless card that i have installed on that asus motherboard... I just want to get a connection up as soon as possible
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13:52<fxiny>ribef: that's it : isapnptools
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13:53<adama>stuc: yes a wireless card on the i386 shoulld work
13:53<ribef>fxiny: ok. i configure'd, make'd, and ran it. not coming up with any ISA devices at all "No boards found", any idea?
13:53<stuc>adama... okay, so how do I go about getting this thing to work with the pppoe shti?
13:54<ribef>fxiny: that's from running pnpdump
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13:54<fxiny>ribef: can't remember too much : only nightmares configuring an old opl3sa a very long ago
13:54<adama>stuc I don't know, you will have to make sure pppoeconf is installed during the install, then figure out the program
13:55<dgodfather>hi all of you
13:55<ribef>fxiny: ah, :( i might have to install windows 95 just to figure out wth is going on
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13:56<dgodfather>i have a small problem i am working on a lenny 2.6.26-1-amd64 with gnome a compiz
13:56<stuc>adama... whats the best way to install pppoe, is it on the 1st lenny dvd?
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13:57<dgodfather>for some weird reason i have only 1 workspace available, and adding to the top panel (removed the default lower one) the workspace switcher doesn't give me and option to set number of desktops i want
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13:57<dgodfather>i have only 1 workspace
13:58<fxiny>good
13:58<adama>stuc: I would assume so. just use the CD in the apt sources and apt-get install pppoeconf
13:58<amphi>dgodfather: compiz uses viewports - use ccsm to set them up
13:58<stuc>adama... okay but do I need to use the cd with which i installed the system originally? (ive several lenny cds lazing around and i dont know which one is which)
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13:59<fxiny>i'm happy when workspaces disappear
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14:00<adama>stuc: hmmm, I don't know... guess?
14:00<dgodfather>amphi, i will try that
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14:01<stuc>adama... are you good with wpasupplicant?
14:02<stuc>everztime i trz to connect to that router i get this error in wpa supplicant that sazs to remove preshared keys
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14:03<amphi>dgodfather: for compiz, you should set desktops/workspaces to 1 and viewports to whatever you like; vertical virtual size should be 1 if you use the cube
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14:03<adama>stuc: no.. I just use the network manager applet
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14:04<stoned>amphi, my compiz broke, plugin for Window Decorations is on, however I have no titlebars or a wm
14:04<dgodfather>amphi, what do you mean by vertical virtual size?
14:05<stoned>amphi, using kde-window-decorator wm of compiz
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14:05<amphi>dgodfather: the number of viewports on the vertical axis
14:05<stoned>dgodfather, your desktop can not only scroll sideways, but up and down as well, for using cube, you don't want vertical, you want horizontal
14:05<stuc>okay adama im going to go test this... thank you
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14:05<stoned>amphi, I think this maybe explains in a layman term
14:05<amphi>stoned: any message if you run k-w-d from a term?
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14:06<stoned>let me see again, I forgot, I think not though
14:06<stoned>brb
14:06<amphi>dgodfather: you're running testing?
14:07<dgodfather>amphi, yes
14:07<amphi>dgodfather: wiki.compiz-fusion.org may be of use
14:07<dgodfather>amphi, good, thank you very much
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14:07<stoned>$>kde-window-decorator --replace
14:07<amphi>dgodfather: there is also #compiz-fusion on irc.freenode.net
14:07<stoned>no output, it doesn't do anything
14:08<amphi>!blame kde
14:08*dpkg blames snorre_ and kde for all the evil in the world
14:08<amphi>stoned: but compiz is running?
14:08<SuSEno>bye..
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14:08<stoned>amphi, no
14:09<amphi>heh
14:09<amphi>without compiz, k-w-d is not going to do much
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14:09<stoned>wait no yes
14:09<stoned>of course it is running
14:09<amphi>you're sure? ;)
14:09<stoned>absolutely
14:10<stoned>I meant don't blame kde
14:10<amphi>nvidia?
14:10<stoned>I run compiz --replace and I get that all is well, trying to load kde-window-decorator
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14:10<stoned>but I have no window decorations
14:11<stoned>so I can't move windows around, if I click outside the window, I can't get focus of keyboard back to any app, I have to restart X
14:11<amphi>no idea - I use emerald here, without problems
14:11<stoned>emerald is in deian
14:11<stoned>I love emerald
14:11<stoned>is it? Ididn't find it
14:11<amphi>it's not
14:11<stoned>lets build it then
14:12<stoned>btw, shoudl it matter than I'm using xorg 7.4
14:12<stoned>that*
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14:13<amphi>no; you'll need a version of emerald that matches your version of compiz
14:13<amphi>try http://releases.compiz-fusion.org/
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14:15<stoned>oh
14:15<ant->anyone know a good guide on converting a srpm to a proper debian package?
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14:18<ant->also a guide to building debian kernel modules would be really appreciated if anyone knows of a good one
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14:23<enouf>ant-: man module-assistant
14:24<kop>ant- : See also the debian docs at debian.org for packaging info.
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14:24<enouf>ant-: for the former, /j #debian and /msg dpkg nmg
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14:25<ArthurR>hi, are there Debian GSoC 2008 mentors/admins around ?
14:25<ant->new maintainer guide doesnt seem to have anything about creating a kernel module source package (or i cant see the right part)
14:25<OdyX>ArthurR: You'd better ask in #debian-devel
14:26<ArthurR>OdyX, thanks
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14:26<stew>ArthurR: try #debian-soc or http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/soc-coordination
14:27<ArthurR>stew, many of those concerned stopped autojoining #debian-soc or unsubscribed from soc-coordination..
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14:29<ant->enouf, I am familiar with debian packaging - just wondering if theres any docs that help explain a srpm from a debian perspective
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14:30<dgodfather>amphi, sorry for disturbing you with some non interesting problems but i can't seem to understand how should i configure it to work
14:30<dgodfather>i read the wiki but i have hard time understanding what it says
14:30<dgodfather>i mean(what to do not the english)
14:31<Guest631>hello, can someone help me resolve this error with ldap_add: No such object (32)
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14:32<enouf>ant-: did you do what i suggested?
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14:33<enouf>ant-: oh crap - i thought i was in ##kernel on freenode ... lmao .. but still (just ignore the /j #debian part :-P)
14:34<ant->module assistant manpage doesnt seem to have much about writing a kernel source package to work under module-assistant
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14:34<enouf>ofcourse not, the m-a answer was to your question; <ant-> also a guide to building debian kernel modules would be really appreciated if anyone knows of a good one
14:34<ant->I can do normal debian packages fine, but have never tried a kernel module package so am a little out of my depth
14:35<ant->badly phrased question then - sorry
14:35<enouf>but you still haven't answered
14:35<ant->I have read the nmg many times - no references to kernel module packages
14:35<enouf>ant-: did you do what i suggested? (about nmg, see the debian-mentors reference)
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14:35<enouf>...
14:35*enouf gives up
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14:36<enouf>http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ is the last thing i'll post about either
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14:37<ant->thanks - that looks helpful
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14:39<dgodfather>where do i set the number of view ports compiz will use?
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14:51<sd_>Hello! How to limit resources (CPU and memory) usage by particular program? For example: my Linux has MySQL server where our developers run sometimes crazy SQL queries. After that MySQL hogs all the resources, so Linux become unaccesible even via local console -- impossible to login to kill crazy mysql...
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14:52<mikegrb>ulimit
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14:53<joiello>ciao a tutti
14:54<themill>sd_: IINM, there are also controls that you can place on resource usage and query execution time in the mysql config files.
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14:56<dgodfather>how do i add a viewport to my viewports?
14:57<dgodfather>i have only 1 for some reason
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14:58<sd_>themill: well, you mean there are no system tool for this purpose to control it from the side of the OS...
14:58<simonrvn>!ccm
14:59<simonrvn>!ccm is <reply> compiz configuration manager
14:59<dpkg>simonrvn: okay
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14:59<themill>sd_: there are ways of limiting a processes total execution time or memory, but that's not what you want to do here. You only want to prevent a single query from getting out of control.
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15:00<simonrvn>!no ccm is <reply> compiz configuration manager - see the compizconfig-settings-manager package description (apt-cache show compizconfig-settings-manager)
15:00<dpkg>okay, simonrvn
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15:00<sd_>themill: ok. Thank you for idea.
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15:05<dgodfather>simonrvn, can you help me please with compiz?
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15:05<dgodfather>i asked several times but did not get an answer. how do i set the number of viewports i have? i did not find it in the wiki
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15:07<simonrvn>dgodfather: install that ^^; see the options pane at the top.
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15:10<dgodfather>simonrvn, sorry, what do you mean by that ^^
15:10<simonrvn>look up
15:10<dgodfather>ccsm?
15:10<dgodfather>i have it, how do i do it through that i meant
15:11<dgodfather>i can't find out how
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15:13<dgodfather>simonrvn, ccsm? i have it, how do i do it through that i meant
15:13<dgodfather>simonrvn, i can't find out how
15:13<simonrvn>i just told you
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15:13<simonrvn>"General Options"
15:14<simonrvn>desktop size
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15:14<dgodfather>simonrvn, thanks you so much
15:14<dgodfather>simonrvn, you just made my night :)
15:14<simonrvn>HF
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15:15<dgodfather>simonrvn, what is hf?
15:16<stew>radio frequencies under 30mhz ?
15:16<simonrvn>have fun
15:17<dgodfather>simonrvn, but i have made a mistake, the default of one desktop is recommended using compiz and defining multiple viewports instead, how do i do that?
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15:18<simonrvn>i don't know
15:18<dgodfather>simonrvn, well thanks anyway man
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15:24<ajcc>Hi! Is there a special flag or option needed for Gnome to see drivers as pendrives? I rember there being special icons for external usb-drives and usbpens.
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15:25<ajcc>The went away when I formated everything into ext3
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15:38<avtobiff>how do i manually install grub2 from inside d-i? install-grub?
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15:38<OdyX>avtobiff: IIRC, you have to start the installer with "expert" and you can choose
15:39<avtobiff>yeah, but i think i have to do it manually from command line
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15:44<dgodfather>simonrvn, well i found out how do configure it finally
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15:45<dgodfather>in csm general options desktop size tab you set virtual horizontal or vertical size that adds the viewports
15:46<simonrvn>oh, that's what those are
15:46<dgodfather>simonrvn, yes :)
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15:46<dgodfather>now why did they use such non descriptive names, bits me
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15:56<uplanete>salut les gens
15:56<OdyX>!fr
15:56<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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16:15<honkanev>installed debian and compiled kernel and typed: apt-get install gnome
16:15-!-honkanev is now known as Honksu
16:15<Honksu>Then it just doesn't start.
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16:16<Honksu>It gives me error: cannot stat /etc/X11/X no such file/directory
16:16<Honksu>what should I do? i am running 4.0 stable
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16:17<jackyf>Honksu: what if 'invoke-rc.d gdm start'?
16:17<sd_>A question for sed gurus :) How to compose an expression so it could find shange the string like this: qweerty.test --> qwerty. In place of "qwerty" can be anything, but ".test" is alwyas the same.
16:17<tzafrir_laptop>Honksu, what gives you that error?
16:18<jackyf>sd_: something like s/(\w+)\.test/\.test/ ?
16:18<jackyf>oh, no
16:18<jackyf>sd_: something like s/(\w+)\.test/\1/ ?
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16:19<Honksu>tzafrir_laptop: startx
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16:19<sd_>i need to cut out the "test" :)
16:19<tzafrir_laptop>You need an X server
16:19<tzafrir_laptop>Xorg, generally
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16:19<jackyf>sd_: second one?
16:19<tzafrir_laptop>Honksu, aptitude install xserver-xorg
16:20<sd_>jackyf: thanks! I'm going to try it out.. :)
16:20<Honksu>Hmm... gdmGDM already running...
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16:22<sd_>jackyf: thanks again!
16:22<sd_>I need to learn this great tool.
16:22<jackyf>sd_: :)
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16:30<Honksu>tzafrir_laptop: I think that I got it now by installing xserver-xorg
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16:32<Honksu>yes
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16:46<adama>!qotd0
16:46<dpkg>< Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee
16:48<themill>:)
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17:14<warhead> /msg dpkg lenny status
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17:19<warhead>Hi
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17:21<warhead>any have dual boot win/debian ?
17:21<warhead>I have litle problem
17:22<warhead>I first instal windows, then Debian...after 3-4 month..I reinstall windows, and I now don't have grub and PC start in windows
17:22<warhead>how to back grub and log in my debian?
17:23<ansgar>warhead: http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover
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17:24<warhead>Tnx. ansgar !
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17:43<dpkg>14:47 < sobersabre> "they've told me that to connect to the internet i needed modem, now i am holding it in my hand... how do i connect?"
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18:05<giuseppe>giuseppe
18:05<giuseppe>ciao
18:06<giuseppe>lista
18:06<maxb>Is anyone aware of a debian policy manual summary/checklist?
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18:07<themill>maxb: lintian?
18:07<themill>there's also /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz
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18:22<adama>!qotd0
18:22<dpkg>hmm... qotd148 is <Laney> alright lads. i set my root shell to /sbin/nolgin, but apparently that means i can't use "su -c" and sudo isn't installed. how can i change it back? :(
18:22<adama>ahahaha
18:23<adama>wonder if he ever got that fixed
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18:50<lothar>Hi, anyone here with knowledge about Linux VDR (especially streaming configuration) ?
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18:54<lothar>Noone ?
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18:55<mgoetze>!ask
18:55<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
18:56<mgoetze>(although i personally don't even know what vdr is, so your chances might be low)
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19:02<lothar>I try to setup the streaming options for vdr. Using the sample file as of http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Streamdevhosts.conf doesn't really help. The config file /usr/lib/vdr/config-loader.sh describes three different places. Now - where to put the plugin configuration ?
19:03<lothar>Or is there something else missing ?
19:04<lothar>Video Disk Recorder
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19:15<tosi_>yo playas what it is
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19:26<zeus>hi all, cam anyone tell how can i print my apache2 configuration ? i remember there was a command but i can remember wich! please help !
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19:31<mgoetze>zeus: print as in with a printer?
19:32<zeus>mgoetze: no i'd like to see on terminal screen my virtualhosts listing
19:33<mgoetze>zeus: ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
19:33<petemc> apache2 -t -DDUMP_VHOSTS
19:34<zeus>mgoetze: mmm ... no .. there is a specific apache2 command able to print its configuration on screen
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19:57<usta>Jan 16 02:52:05 mail postfix/postdrop[6399]: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/765735.6399: Permission denied
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19:57<usta>can anyone help me pls
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20:00<bgupta>Hi I was trying to figure out if this would be a good machine to buy for running Debian: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015B-T.cfm
20:00<adama>usta check permissions on the maildrop folder
20:01<usta>where is it ?
20:01<adama>no idea
20:02<adama>find / -type d -name maildrop
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20:04<Hydroxide>bgupta: I don't see anything there which would be a problem. would you be wanting X to work, or no?
20:04<Hydroxide>bgupta: even that will probably work, honestly
20:06<bgupta>No gonna be a server.. running Xen
20:06<Hydroxide>bgupta: yeah. should be fine.
20:06<bgupta>Figured as much, just wanted to be sure before ordering...
20:07<Hydroxide>you might have to pick which install images or kernels or such to use
20:07<Hydroxide>especially for xen
20:07<Hydroxide>but you should be able to do it
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20:08<bgupta>Gonna order it tomorrow.. looks like $1750 for 4 x 2.83GHz, 8GB RAM, and 2 x 1.5TB drives (plus a IPMI 2.0 card)
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20:08<bgupta>call it ~$1800 with shipping
20:09<Hydroxide>bgupta: http://wiki.debian.org/Xen has info on debian on xen with etch and lenny, including dom0 and domU and installation
20:10<bgupta>cool thx
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20:25<LostPlanet>#flood
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20:35<wakariera>am gettin an error every time i try installin flashplugin from backports for i386 and am pretty sure av done the sources.list correctly
20:35<wakariera>any help
20:36<dmoerner>what is the error? (pastebin)
20:36<wakariera>how do i paste from terminal btw
20:38<wakariera>failed to fetch a 404 NOt found
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21:08<wakariera>I did it
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21:33<goonster>sup
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23:09<maddash>the variables that I put in /etc/environment don't show up in my xterm inside X11 -- how do I fix this?
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23:11<maddash>anyone? I want to set a variable OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome so that the variable is set under X11, my tty*, and VTEs
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