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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-02-01

---Logopened Sun Feb 01 00:00:04 2009
---Daychanged Sun Feb 01 2009
00:00<aaroninfidel>anyone here using a macbook pro?
00:00<warhead>Bingo!
00:00<warhead>My wirelsss work on Debian
00:00<astronut>abrotman: any chance you know the answer to my question?
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00:00<warhead>After 4-5 hours ....
00:01<abrotman>astronut: i have no idea why you cannot get tastycakes in the south ...
00:01<abrotman>astronut: no, actually, i don't have an answer
00:02<warhead>I now afread tourn off my laptop :-) (I up wireless connection with wpa encrypt)
00:02<abrotman>astronut: all i can tell you to try is /msg dpkg dpi .. see if anything makes sense
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00:02<astronut>i'm up north now
00:03<abrotman>i know .. i was kidding
00:03<astronut>why do i have a feeling it's a difference in DPI in the monitor
00:03<astronut>*sigh*
00:03<astronut>and it's only detecting one
00:03<astronut>guessing if i flipped the wires, it'd work
00:04<warhead>wpasupplicant don't have enable support for madwifi drivers, but when I download source after that now work...I connect with kwlan (great program)
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00:05<astronut>ya, that worked
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00:06<astronut>now to get the color right
00:06<gsimmons>warhead: The madwifi wpa_supplicant driver backend was disabled in 'wpasupplicant' 0.6.3-2, as this driver is able to use the wext backend.
00:07<warhead>gsimmons: I install wpa_supplicant-0.6.7 - all work ok.
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00:12<astronut>the color is still funky, i'll figure it out eventually
00:12<warhead>any idea how to enable sound for Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller ? (I install kernel 2.6.28.2 and enable module CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL) any tips?
00:12<ranix>warhead: apt-get install alsa alsa-utils;alsaconf
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00:31<ewgen>hello! I've happily installed debian and I'm really eager to learn! I was wondering if there is some application which can help me easily "remove" applications that start up automaticly, I want my server to be as fast as possible!
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00:37<dmoerner>ewgen: look at rcconf and sysv-rc-conf to control what runs on boot
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00:39<ewgen>sweet
00:39<ewgen>thanks man
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03:22<xingu>holy crap cacti's come a long way
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03:45<Jek>ciao
03:45<Jek>c'è qualche italiano?
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04:03<milk>:)
04:04<milk>thanks for your help the other day, going with Lenny as you suggested. ta
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04:06<scientes>how can i easily bandwidth limit a certain ip range: 208.111.148.0/24
04:08<jkoenig>scientes: I don't know about anything easy, but I think you would need to read about traffic control and netfilter (respectively the 'tc' and 'iptables' command)
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04:08<scientes>they all just seem such a pain
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04:09<scientes>they dont seperate the result with the method of implementation enough
04:10<jkoenig>scientes: you may find a GUI front-end or google up some ready-to-use command,
04:10<jkoenig>but I don't know about any.
04:10<scientes>yeah
04:10<scientes>someone on the network is doing windows update, and it seems they make users download full images for every update
04:11<jkoenig>scientes: maybe you can install a cache proxy ?
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04:12<jkoenig>you would need to configure it on all machines or transparentize it through iptables, though.
04:12<scientes>yeah
04:13<scientes>cause windows sucks
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04:13<scientes>they have no resume download or throttle download, or easy proxy
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04:13<scientes>they just punish their users
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04:13<scientes>and then i gotta pay cause someone else is updating
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04:22<fxiny>punish who ? users have rights , it's all about civil rights
04:23<fxiny>water , air and net , can't see too much difference
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04:29<scientes>yeah but with debian you can just set up a apt-cacher server and there you go
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04:30<scientes>and nothing is that big, even though it does so much more
04:30<scientes>seriously what could microsoft possible have in a update, that needs 6.5 gigabytes
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04:31<fxiny>how do you know is a microsoft 6.5G ?
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04:34<fxiny>as usual debian does it better then microZlot , debian packages are signed , so even if you cache 'em you can still check if they are tampered
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04:41<geebs>Hello All
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04:56<Administrator>what?
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05:33<J00P>how to update my Debian
05:34<J00P>uname -a
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05:39<sven>hi
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05:40*xingu builds a cacti template for his raid enclosure and claps happily as it starts collecting hdd temp data
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05:47<andreasdr>Hello there, I'm planning on installing Debian and have found two images I can't decide between; "debian-40r6-i386-netinst.iso", 160 MB and "debian-40r6-etchnhalf-i386-netinst.iso", 148 MB. What is the difference?
05:48<jackyf>andreasdr: latter contains stable updates and newer kernel
05:49<andreasdr>Do you think I should choose that one then?
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05:49<fxiny>or get a lenny iso
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05:50<andreasdr>whats a lenny iso?
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06:03<andreasdr>lo
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07:08<saad>slt
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07:10<zulu>hey guys my router don't seems to forward packets, I don't what the thing to set in the /sys
07:10<saad>comment ça marche ce Xchat ?
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07:12<saad>how xchat works ?
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07:19<saad>is that some one could tell me how it works XChat ?? help
07:20<saad>is there anyone?
07:21<InkBottle>Hi, what would you use as a fast image viewer in replacement of gwenview that is too slow for the purpose I use it (visualise scanned document)?
07:21<ehnvis>saad: what do you mean how it work? Xchat is an irc client and work like any other irc client, you connect to a server, join a channel and chat.
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07:22<binarymutant>InkBottle, eog? feh? fspot?
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07:23<InkBottle>binarymutant: thank for the tips
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07:24<saad>thank you <ehnvis>, I'm still a beginner (my English is very average)
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07:26<saad>can some one explain me irc protocol briefly ?
07:27<binarymutant>briefly? lol
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07:28<petern>i would suggest an internet search would provide a more useful answer.
07:28<saad>sorry, i know that i have a horrible english, but i try lol
07:28<ehnvis>saad: find the RFC for irc and read it.
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07:29<InkBottle>binarymutant: I will test the second choice feh, and see
07:29<binarymutant>InkBottle, feh is my fav :)
07:30<ehnvis>saad: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1459.html
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07:34<variable>is there the way that grub will check all OS on hards and then will write them to menu list?
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07:42<joshuaaaa>is it possibel to install debian using the cd via ssh
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07:43<joshuaaaa>like a remote install
07:43<binarymutant>I know of ftp and http but not ssh
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07:44<joshuaaaa>sorry, maybe that wasn't clear
07:45<joshuaaaa>i mean run the install without using a keyboard and monitor plugged into the machine
07:45<binarymutant>joshuaaaa, you need a keyboard for sure
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07:45<binarymutant>joshuaaaa, you can't because it would require ssh to be running in userspace
07:45<joshuaaaa>ok
07:45<joshuaaaa>thanks
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07:47<joshuaaaa>Is a debain a good choice for a server?
07:47<attila>yep
07:48<MotoHoss>joshuaaaa: Debian is a good choice <period>.
07:48<joshuaaaa>haha
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07:49<joshuaaaa>iv been using gentoo, but am considering a switch to debain
07:49<joshuaaaa>*debian
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07:50<joshuaaaa>will subversion work straight out of the box
07:51<joshuaaaa>after i install it
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07:52<attila>of course
07:52<InkBottle>binarymutant: the picture is too large and "feh --zoom 10 *" seems to have no effect; what is the proper syntax?
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07:53<joshuaaaa>ok thanks
07:53<binarymutant>InkBottle, I use the right click menu options, and freeze window (or something like that) and reload the picture if it's too large
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07:57<And1>How do I use a normal .ttf font (it's probably a windows font) in GIMP?
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08:10<mandrake>yes but i'm italy
08:10<InkBottle>binarymutant: it's very fast. I think it will be perfect when I can use the --zoom option. At present I will use the -F option that gives me a full screen mode (that I do not need), but also that resize the image for not to be too large.
08:11<binarymutant>InkBottle, that's cool, I like feh :)
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08:16<InkBottle>binarymutant: really too fast :) (not to be compared with.. of course I won't say)
08:17<mandrake>53/tcp filtered domain
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08:17<mandrake>135/tcp filtered msrpc
08:17<mandrake>136/tcp filtered profile
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08:29<wekt>Where is documentation about installing from a stick? Only a stub is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s02.html.en#id2530967
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08:31<ArthurLiu>wekt, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en
08:31<gsimmons>wekt: See also chapters 4.2, 4.4 and 5.1.3.
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08:33<InkBottle>binarymutant: "--zoom Percent: zooms images by percent, +when+ in full screen mode or when window geometry is fixed" (!!); then and however feh -g 500x500 * (or anything you want) is the solution for me (by rolling the wheel button I can see 100 large images in 10s :) )
08:33<InkBottle>thank for the tips again
08:34<binarymutant>np
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08:44<MarcoZ>i'm having a problem with a 4.0 -> 5.0 update, this: http://pastebin.com/mef0cb64
08:44<MarcoZ>can somebody help? thanks in advance
08:44<wekt>where is hd-media?
08:44<MarcoZ>it's a VPS
08:45<MarcoZ>virtual hard drive
08:45<wekt>where is the hd-media directory with install imagesfor lenny weekly builds?
08:45<gsimmons>wekt: Again, see chapter 4.2.
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08:50<animesh>can anyone tell me abt the nosip program
08:50<animesh>????????
08:50<panagos>hello people, i have a question regarding xkb, how can i make right control the compose key, but so that when i press right control + a letter, it counts as a control? i.e. make right control the compose key only when it is pressed alone. thanks!
08:50<animesh>i am new ........:-(
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08:51<animesh>plg help me???
08:51<louis>hallo
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08:52<animesh>please tell me abt the nosip program>>>>>>>>
08:52<binarymutant>animesh, no one knows
08:53<binarymutant>animesh, and stop spamming
08:53<panagos>animesh: there is not package with that name :)
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08:53<animesh>its a internship program by gnome
08:53<animesh>in india
08:53<panagos>oh
08:53<binarymutant>animesh, it's site doesn't work so that should tell you something
08:54<binarymutant>animesh, maybe man nosip
08:54<animesh>so from should i try to get the information
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08:54<binarymutant>? huh
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08:55<animesh>www.gnomebangalore.org is not working???
08:55<animesh>what should i do??
08:55<binarymutant>animesh, man nosip, nosip --help, nosip -h
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08:57<animesh>gnomebangalore.org is not working ???what should i do??
08:57<binarymutant>you could stop spamming :)
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09:08<MarcoZ>i'm having a problem with a 4.0 -> 5.0 update, this: http://pastebin.com/mef0cb64 - somebody knows how to solve it?
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09:08<abrotman>MarcoZ: is your HDD full ?
09:08<abrotman>did the filesystem go readonly?
09:08<MarcoZ>let me see
09:09<MarcoZ>probably not, because i had 18 GB free
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09:09<MarcoZ>nope, 20% use
09:10<themill>MarcoZ: is this on a VPS or on a real box?
09:10<MarcoZ>VPS
09:10<themill>openvz?
09:10<MarcoZ>Yes.
09:11<themill>!win me
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09:11<cristiano>!list
09:12<cristiano>ciao
09:12<themill>MarcoZ: lenny's udev has issues on openvz machines. I know nothing more than that about it though... check the BTS or ask google for more details.
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09:12<valdyn>MarcoZ: or activate debug mode in the postinst script
09:12*abrotman wonders if there's an IRC client that automagically does !list
09:12<MarcoZ>Thanks to both, i'll try searching
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09:13<francesco>buona sera
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09:14<francesco>c'è qualcuno che puo aiutarmi ad installare la mia scheda wireless?
09:15<themill>!it
09:15<themill>bah
09:15<francesco>!it
09:15<themill>francesco: /join #debian-it
09:15<francesco> /join #debian-it
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09:16<jkoenig>francesco: remove the leading space
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09:18<cyberninja>does anyone know a common braned USB wireless dongle that uses ralink chipset and will work straight up without NDIS
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09:19<abrotman>cyberninja: if you check the website for the driver, they usually have a list of devices
09:19<cyberninja>oh i never thought of that, thansk
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09:29<ewgen>Is there a "simple" way to make a boot script? I've got 2-3 applications I want to start at boot time, game server, a ventrilo and eggdrop :-)
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09:30<jkoenig>ewgen: maybe an @reboot cron job, if you want to run them as a user ?
09:31<jkoenig>ewgen: or you could use /etc/rc.local and the 'su' command.
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09:32<abrotman>!run at startup
09:32<abrotman>bah .. bot gone
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09:34<ewgen>Alright jkoenig, thanks! I'll look into it
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09:43<MarcoZ>goin', bb to all
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09:47<TakeABow>Can someone help me add a domain to my linux server?
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09:52<ewgen>Another thing, is there a good way to make the cpu prioritize a running process? I'm trying to get a game server to run smoothly
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09:52<Nemoder>ewgen: man renice
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09:53<ewgen>sweet
09:54<Nemoder>it's often safer to lower priority of other apps than to try and raise one of them higher
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10:00<Dillizar>is there a debian for PPC
10:00<Dillizar>!PPC
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10:01<abrotman>impatient .. jeez
10:01<engywuck_>hey, he waited 50 seconds
10:01<engywuck_>that ought to be enough ^^
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10:09<nutzer>jcgwqkioö 23o e4
10:10<dr|z3d>If that's German, I'm a banana.
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10:15<nutzer>TN5i o4m5h hgfedfju 23oeum8 un4gvb c zm8xyckdsvlrelesölöldw.d4jwenre5nmg njs növb gffärmgm e5sa
10:16<jackyf>weasel: nutzer wants to be banned
10:16<abrotman>nutzer: do you need help?
10:16<abrotman>nutzer: use english please
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10:17<Torsten_W>abrotman: that's not any langauge
10:17<abrotman>i'm aware of that
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10:18<fxiny>i think is klingon
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10:20<roger>Buen dia hay algien que hable español
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10:23<engywuck_>!es
10:24<engywuck_>!dpkg es
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10:24<abrotman>bot isn't here
10:24<engywuck_>i notice....
10:24<engywuck_>espanol: #debian-es (methinks)
10:26<roger>methinks this connected
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10:29<maxraizer>hi
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10:31<roger>I need to know like predetermining the program open folders that are called navigator of folders
10:32<roger>they can help me
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10:37<per>I wounder if I can compil a kernel (for an netbook, intel..) on another computer (AMD)?
10:37<per>yes/no?
10:37<metalqga>yes
10:37<per>good!
10:37<dr|z3d>per: You're wanting to compile the moblin kernel?
10:38<per>moblin?
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10:38<abrotman>dr|z3d: this is the debian support channel ..
10:38<metalqga>intel's distro
10:38<roger>I need to know like predetermining the program open folders that are called navigator of folders
10:38<dr|z3d>abrotman: Thanks for reminding me, I thought I'd visited the municipal zoo ;)
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10:40<roger>I use debian 4
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10:44<engywuck_>sorry roger, but I have difficulties understanding your question
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10:48<ferengi>Hi guys trying to get my webcam working in etch is this the right room?
10:48<dr|z3d>ferengi: Sure.
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10:48<roger>I have debian 4, I want to know since I do so that to prededeterminar the navigating program of you file
10:48<ferengi>neat, it is a Sunday and I have been putting this off for months but I feel ready
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10:49<dr|z3d>roger: Are you trying to set the default file manager?
10:49<ferengi>do you want an output of my lsusb
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10:49<dr|z3d>ferengi: Wait until you've got someone specifically interested in helping you.
10:50<ferengi>thanks, this is my forst irc chat
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10:53<gsimmons>ferengi: Provide the lsusb output at a paste site, such as http://paste.debian.net/ Present the URL to your paste in here, when completed.
10:54<ferengi>ok will do now gsimmons thaks
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10:55<roger>or example, I give right click him to a file and choose the eyelash that dece: open with
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10:57<roger>I can choose a predetermined program so that she abra all the folders
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11:02<roger>it watches the screen capture drj3d
11:02<dr|z3d>roger: Are you using Gnome as your environment?
11:02<roger>yes
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11:02<roger>gnome
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11:03<alphonse>q onda
11:03<dr|z3d>roger: Please refer to the following articles for more help: http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/change-gnome-menus-to-use-pcman-file-manager-288616.php & http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
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11:16<Athunye>:D
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11:21<tic>hello, im trying install from debian 4.0r6 first dvd. it boots fine, i can choose kernel, but when im pressing enter nothing happends and system freeze. my cd is sata. can anyone help?
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11:24<Txt-file>tic: you can check the CD for errors and freeze means that Alt+F2 didn't work?
11:24<tic>yes
11:24<tic>numlock and caps lock freeze too
11:26<tic>cd looks to be good. iv tried to use install acpi=off, and some others options. always same result
11:27<Txt-file>damn .. then I have absolute no plan
11:27<tic>i can boot and start installation from windows goodbye site, but how to make it use dvd -_-
11:27<tic>iam only 128 kb/s )
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11:29<ferengi>gsimmons I have posted here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/pc-line-camera-pixart-in-debian-etch-using-gspca-701437/#post3428160
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11:31<ferengi>Perhaps you have gone do I will ask forhelp from anyone with webcam experience
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11:35<ferengi>tic have you tried using a boot floopy?
11:35<tic>i havent it)
11:36<ferengi>tic do you have access to a different dvd drive from another computer?
11:37<engywuck_>isn't there a way to test the DVD for errors?
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11:37<alex-22k>hmmmm, I run glxdemo - his not work :(
11:37<ferengi>yes there is normally to option to test the media
11:38<alex-22k>run CS 1.6 - sednd glx not work
11:38<tic>i v tried my old cdrw, but it cant reconize any cd in windows( tomorrow i can take a flash drive for 16gb and boot from it, but wanna try debian today)
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11:39<ferengi>I understand
11:39<ferengi>have you tried the debian live project
11:39<ferengi>there must be a way to run the instater from a live cd
11:39<ferengi>installer sorry
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11:42<tic>it means to download 200 mb over net :( to hard..
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11:46<ferengi>lethis might help http://jootamam.net/howto-install-cd-to-usb.htm
11:46<Sey>I can log into a user account on etch (amd64) using TWM (or something like that) or i can log into Root in gnome and such. Except i cant log into my user using gnome as it hangs after login screen then goes back to login screen.
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11:46<Ascavasaion>How do I set up a shared file server (a mappable drive) so that whole networks can say listen to MP3s, etc from one central location.
11:47<tic>ferengi thanks!
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11:47<ferengi>Ascavasaion you can use samba to do that in minutes
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11:48<ferengi>are you using etch?
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11:48<Ascavasaion>ferengi: Okay, and Samba works on FreeBSD as well hey? I mean I can use a FreeBSD machine with Samba and share this info for the whole network?
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11:49<Ascavasaion>ferengi: I do not rememebr what distro... I installed Sarge at first and have done dist upgrades.
11:50<ferengi>well u can just do this Desktop > Administration > Share Folders
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11:50<ferengi>browse to the location and give it a name
11:51<Ascavasaion>ferengi: Okay... sounds okay. Now I just need to sort out that old machine hehe
11:51<Sey>Can anyone help with my inability to log in as a normal user (I also cannot create a new user from the admin panel, annoyingly.)
11:52<alex-22k>yesterday 3d games worked for me, and it is not now. Error of segmenting writes
11:52<Ascavasaion>Thank you Ferengi.
11:53<engywuck_>Sey: do you have free space in /home?
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11:53<engywuck_>was fpor me once when I had no free space on my hdd
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11:53<Sey>not sure i understand the question, sorry. i have a 250gb hdd with 180 spare id that helps.
11:53<engywuck_>or perhaps some log file only writable for root
11:53<engywuck_>all in one partition?
11:54<Sey>i beleive so
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11:55<Stuckey>Sounds like a permissions problem...
11:55<Sey>can log into my Root account in any form i desire, can only log into my cris account with TWM.
11:56<Ascavasaion>Maybe command line would work for him?
11:56<Sey>ill pop open a terminal
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11:59<engywuck_>can you create a new account then try to login there?
11:59<engywuck_>if yes you have some problem with permissions in your cris account
11:59<user01>do i win anything if my prediction for when lenny is released comes true? :)
12:00<Sey>when i try make a new account it crashes
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12:00<metalqga>user01 you win a free debian lenny install iso
12:00<etech>hello
12:00<user01>whohooo!
12:00<engywuck_>what crashes?
12:00<etech>is it possible to install the kernel 2.6.28 in debian testing?
12:01<user01>in november i predicted march 15 +/- 1 week :)
12:01<engywuck_>sure: download from kernel.org, configure, compile ^^
12:01<Sey>'the application"users-admin" has quit unexpectedly.'
12:01<user01>and everyone was like no it will be out sooner
12:02<user01>or maybe it was march 22 . . .
12:03<engywuck_>etech: if you want to compile manually have a look at the packet kernel-package
12:03<engywuck_>user01: I guess February 30th ^^
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12:03<etech>engywuck_, is it easy to compile it with that methode? i compiled one time a kernel and i found it horrible to configure it
12:04<engywuck_>etech: you can have a look at packages.debian.org to see if it's in sid already then try to install that packet, but...
12:04<engywuck_>configuring *is* horrible :)
12:04<user01>they should have like a ncaa tournament where once it is frozen, people can take bets on when it will be stable
12:04<engywuck_>you can use oldconfig and give it the .config of debianised 2.6.26 of course
12:04<etech>ok, when there is no precompiled 2.6.28 kernel i won't use it
12:04<engywuck_>wouldn't be fair, user01
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12:05<user01>engywuck_, not if you guess feb 30th it wouldnt :P
12:05<engywuck_>the maintainers of core packets could "find" new bugs then to move to desired day :)
12:06<user01>engywuck_, hmmm well . . . i am just a user :)
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12:07<engywuck_>oh well, "just" a user
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12:07<user01>engywuck_, i only report bugs back :)
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12:08<user01>engywuck_, i would like to do more translation though
12:08<malexachi>nick MaleXachi
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12:08<Laxaam>how can i change my screen resolution after installing Debian?
12:08<Sey>is there a quick way to adjust the permissions of gnome so Cris user can access and load it? because i do quite like having a desktop..
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12:09<engywuck_>desktop is overrated ^^
12:09<Laxaam>After installing Deb my screen says that the resolution is too big and it shuts down
12:09<Sey>true, but its shiny and i like it.
12:09<engywuck_>everything more complicated than DOS-2.0 command line is too fancy ^^
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12:10<Sey>dos 2.0? pff. punchcards ftw.
12:10<engywuck_>Laxaam: try the combination Alt+Ctrl+Minus-Key
12:11<engywuck_>punchcards don't work if they have ketchup on them, keyboards do....
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12:11<engywuck_>Laxaam: this should use a lower resolution for start
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12:12<etech>i can imagine lenny will be released in summer 2009
12:12<engywuck_>Minus-Key = the one on numeric keypad of your keyboard
12:12<engywuck_>one thing I am sure of: Windows 7 will be released later ^^
12:12<etech>will testing be "freezed" until lenny is out as stable?
12:12<engywuck_>yes
12:12<Laxaam>ok ill try it thx
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12:13<engywuck_>so expect a torrent of new packets in testing the second lenny is out :)
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12:13<engywuck_>when etch was released I had my sorces.list set for "testing"... never again, now I use the codenames :)
12:14<InkBottle>Hi, not debian specific: with ls I've got "foo008.pnm" then "foo-00.pnm" then "foo009.pnm". Does this sorting look to you normal?
12:14<InkBottle>the same with sort
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12:14<InkBottle>echo "-"|hd 2d
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12:14<InkBottle>echo "0"|hd 30
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12:16<ferengi>Anybody know hot to install a webcam with gspca?
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12:17<attila>compile and install module and then plug in the webcam?
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12:17<ferengi>already did that
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12:18<ferengi>but no go
12:18<ferengi>see my post here please http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/pc-line-camera-pixart-in-debian-etch-using-gspca-701437/#post3428160
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12:27<Sey>bt yes, i know its too fancy, but any idea how i can get my gnome de back?
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12:34<icmp_request>Hello guys! I'm trying the latest network cd install and after downloading and installing the packages, installation freezes and errors on installing a printer and then falls back to the menu (I'm on a laptop and don't have printer attached)... do you guys have any suggestions?
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12:42<engywuck_>Sey: please use df on command line and look for full partitions
12:42<engywuck_>or pastebin it
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12:46<Stuckey>My screen isn't blanking while idle... how can I fix this?
12:46<Sey>dev/hda1 22% used the rest are 0-1% used its not partitions full
12:46<Sey>http://pastebin.com/d5d774a1
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12:48<raziel>Хай пеньки
12:48<Sey>stuckey you can lock screen, or you can look in the screensaver options, i believe theres an option there
12:48<engywuck_>ok, so it's some permissions problem...
12:49<engywuck_>unfortunately I don't know exactly which files are responsible, that's why I asked you to add another user, which seemed not to work either
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12:49<engywuck_>perhaps "adduser" uon command line?
12:49<engywuck_>-u
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12:51<Sey>adduser bbob, shall try log him now
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12:51<raziel>Киса ты сцучка
12:51-!-Rediculate [~Rediculat@dslb-084-058-072-199.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian
12:51<raziel>Я тут посею разврат и хаос
12:51<OdyX>!ru
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12:51<engywuck_>raziel: english in here, please
12:52<sey>HIM i can log in
12:52<kisa>мечтать не вредно
12:52<engywuck_>Odyx: bot is offline
12:52<sey>cris i cannot
12:52<dr|z3d>kisa: English, please.
12:52<kisa>ты сам в этом хаосе живешь
12:52<OdyX>engywuck_: russians aren't...
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12:52<raziel>Mogu i po angliiski))))
12:52<engywuck_>so you could try to find some difference in file permissions
12:53<raziel>Esli kogo pret
12:53<engywuck_>or permissions in the users directory permission
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12:53<kisa>)))))
12:53<raziel>)))))
12:53<engywuck_>jaja, immer diese Leute,, die sich hier nicht auf Englisch unterhalten können oder wollen
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12:53<raziel>nemca v anus blin
12:54<Valtiel-ASD>engywuck_: ich nicht schprehen deutch
12:54<raziel>Kak mi vas v 45!!!!
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12:54<Valtiel-ASD>shpreche english
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12:54<raziel>engywuck_> KONb
12:54*engywuck_ is not speaking russian :)
12:54<raziel>Не гони
12:54<Valtiel-ASD>ich nicht wise deutsche
12:54<raziel>Жёрик я же знаю что ты меня понимаешь:)))
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12:55<Valtiel-ASD>weis
12:55<Sey>shazam
12:55<engywuck_>russian invasion, HELP
12:55<Sey>thankyou, it now works
12:55<engywuck_>:p
12:55<Sey>it was a permissions thing
12:55<Sey>for some reason my home was unreadable and unwritable
12:55<Sey>once you told me i hopped into root, changed it to be abke to be read and written
12:55<Sey>and it went swimmingly
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12:58<engywuck_>:)
12:58<engywuck_>fine
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12:59<raziel>Russia will overmaster the world
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12:59<Sey>i wonder how it got set to unreadable int he first place
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13:00<Sey>probably my bloody flatmate
13:01*|kos-mos| {MPEG Layer 3} Prevail -by- Harmony -on- Chapter II: Aftermath
13:01<raziel>Our scientists will a bit change the axis of Earth ...
13:01<raziel>))
13:01<Sey>pff, razil, everytime someone moves they alter the earths axis slightly.
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13:01<raziel>Well that for suxx
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13:03<kisa>здесь скучно
13:03<engywuck_>Sey: a friend of mine once hat the root (/.) set to deny read and execute for root but not for users
13:03<OdyX>stop that kisa !
13:03<raziel>Тут пиз...то)
13:03<engywuck_>so he couldn't log in as root any longer.....
13:03<kisa>нет,здесь скучно
13:03<engywuck_>took him a while to find that... ls -l / showed nothing wrong, only ls -la did....
13:04<icmp_request>beautiful now the network install freezes at "Setting up ucf (2.0020) ..." ¬¬
13:04<engywuck_>английские языки пользы внутри здесь
13:04<engywuck_>(i hope babelfish worked...)
13:04<icmp_request>why can't I just INSTALL Debian on my machine is it ask so much? :S
13:05<engywuck_>debian is elite, it doesn't want to be installed by everyone....
13:05<raziel>However much you twist a breast ahead
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13:06<icmp_request>ok there's slackware, gentoo and stuff... because seems Debian doesn't want to be installed
13:06<francesco>!it
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13:06<raziel><engywuck_> I so knew that it you Zhorik
13:06<francesco>!it
13:06<engywuck_>sorry, bot is down francesco
13:07<icmp_request>trying last time
13:07<francesco>lol
13:07<francesco>italian channel?
13:07<engywuck_>try #debian-it
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13:08<raziel>Russia channel №1!
13:08<kisa>тут все на английском общаются
13:08<engywuck_> La comunità italiana di Debian ha deciso di restare sul canale #debian-it su irc.freenode.net
13:08<engywuck_>it says there (hey, I can speak italian ^^)
13:08<francesco>:P
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13:09<icmp_request>curious
13:09<raziel>suck feet
13:09<icmp_request>I speak portuguese and understood
13:09<engywuck_>italian is easy - 25% of words are compatible with english or german and the rest is guessable :)
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13:10<icmp_request>XD
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13:10<icmp_request>well, be back later
13:10<icmp_request>cya
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13:12<raziel>New Ubuntu 8.12 (http://ubuntu.com/get)
13:12-!-adema [~adema@avr50-1-82-241-205-109.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:12<engywuck_>who cares?
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13:12<bighornram>does anyone know how to modify the conversion script in gtkpod so the new filename doesn't have Human_02-0x3acdc50-0.m4a (-0x3acdc50-0) in it?
13:12<engywuck_>I *do* care for Lenny, though ... :)
13:12<OdyX>raziel is a bot I guess...
13:13<raziel>No
13:13<OdyX>trolling bot.
13:13<OdyX>:->
13:13<raziel>No no :'(
13:14<kisa>)))
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13:15<raziel>we get everything
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14:02<ubuntu>hi
14:02<Caliban>hi
14:02<xman2134>hi
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14:02<Guest46>can someone help me with a 3d problem (i think thats the problem)
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14:03<ubuntu>there is a way to recover a password from gnome key ring?
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14:05<Txt-file>!tell Guest46 about ask
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14:06<Txt-file>where is dpkg gone??
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14:08<artyom>привет пацанчики
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14:10<artyom>прпр
14:11<Myon>artyom: English please
14:11<Myon>!ru
14:12<goodger>Myon: there is a lack of dpkg
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14:14<ewgen>is there a way to run a .sh in background? Got a server and want to run the application without having to have putty on all the time :-)
14:14<jurg>Screen.
14:14<ewgen>sweet
14:14<ewgen>thanks
14:14<jurg>np.
14:15<arthurfurlan>ewgen, nohup
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14:17<ewgen>I'll check it out, thanks arthurfurlan :-)
14:17<arthurfurlan>ewgen, :)
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14:29<icmp_request>When trying to install through network 160MB CD, the install stops with the following error: "Debian Automatic Printer Configuration: Installation Step Failed". Do you guys have any idea about how to solve it?
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14:32<crunchbang>hello
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14:33<enouf>icmp_request: disconnect any/all printers and try again
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14:33<icmp_request>enouf: I'm installing on a laptop with no printers attached
14:34<crunchbang>any Cb user here
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14:34<warhead>icmp_request: Get last netinstall (mybe U have old install)
14:35<enouf>oh .. see the installation guide - Boot Parameters section perhaps to disable autoconfigs of items, also /msg dpkg laptop
14:35<icmp_request>warhead: downloaded the .iso today
14:35<enouf>icmp_request: have you tried 'expert' mode? press F1-F10
14:35<icmp_request>MAYBE it's trying to install a printer attached to a windows xp computer on the network via smbfs but I'm not sure
14:35<warhead>icmp_request: check boot parametars....
14:36<icmp_request>warhead: haven't used any, enouf I'm gonna try expert mode thanks :)
14:37<icmp_request>enouf: oh I've misread, I didn't try expert mode
14:37<warhead>icmp_request: k
14:37<icmp_request>haven't use any parameter on boot, just pressed ENTER so why does this error comes? :S
14:37<LL00>ack
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14:38<InkBottle>had anyone tried to compile openFst?
14:38<icmp_request>reading boot parameters
14:40<warhead>icmp_request: U frist need check Your hardware, then look on need any example for install linux on Your laptop. (boot parameters can help but U need first check Your hardware)
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14:40<InkBottle>I've got error: ‘memcpy’ was not declared in this scope and I don't know what to do with it
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14:41<icmp_request>warhead: seems my hardware is compatible with linux the laptop had already come with linux but a private dist. I didn't like
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14:41<warhead>icmp_request: model of laptop?
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14:42<TakeABow>what's the command for extracting a .tar.gz into its current directory
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14:42<icmp_request>its an "itautec" chipset north bridge: Intel 960GL South Bridge: Intel ICH8-M
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14:43<TakeABow>i'm using tar -zxfv and it's extracting into ./
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14:43<icmp_request>processor intel dual-core T2390 1GB RAM shared video memory up to 256MB
14:43<rickbot>that should put it into the current dir wherever you are
14:43<icmp_request>HD is SATA and it's well-detected
14:44<petern>./ is the current directory...
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14:45<icmp_request>what I COULD is to install only the base system and then apt-get what I need
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14:46<dork5002>does anyone know what "No devices detected. Fatal server error: noscreens found" means when you try to start up X
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14:49<warhead>icmp_request: U can seek Your laptop here http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html ???
14:50<icmp_request>warhead: I believe not because my laptop is from a national vendor called "itautec"
14:50<warhead>icmp_request: When U come to tsell uncheck all, and U have only installed only base debian system
14:51<icmp_request>warhead: Isn't it possible to apt-get X and other stuff?
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14:51<icmp_request>booting into the base
14:52<abrotman>icmp_request: which WM do you want?
14:52<icmp_request>openbox?
14:52<icmp_request>maybe xfce I don't know
14:52<abrotman>dork5002: first make sure `aptitude install xorg` doesn't want additional packages .. then check farther up the log for the real error if it happens again
14:52<icmp_request>abrotman: I see your point when I apt-get the WM, X is installed as a depedency?
14:52<abrotman>icmp_request: aptitude install xorg <windowmanageryouwant>
14:53<abrotman>and then install xdm/gdm/kdm/etc if you want one
14:53<warhead>icmp_request: sure, skip tasksel
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14:53<abrotman>icmp_request: most people that have been using debian for awhile skip tasksel or uncheck everything except "Standard"
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14:54<warhead>abrotman: I agree with U
14:54<icmp_request>abrotman: and what does "Standard" gives me? Comes with X?
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14:54<abrotman>!u
14:54<abrotman>bah
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14:55<abrotman>icmp_request: nope .. just basic tools .. things you'd expect on a basic system
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14:55<abrotman>icmp_request: aptitude search "~pstandard" if you really want to know
14:55<abrotman>roughly anyways
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14:56<icmp_request>ok thanks I'll try just base + standard :)
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14:56<warhead>icmp_request: depend what U vont...
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15:01<icmp_request>so most people who have been using debian for a while install a base + standard system, boot into it and then apt-get what they want?
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15:02<abrotman>icmp_request: mostly ..
15:02<icmp_request>ok seems that it'll work thanks abrotman and warhead :)
15:02<abrotman>icmp_request: though they usually use aptitude .. not apt-get
15:02<abrotman><dpkg> aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies.
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15:03<icmp_request>sorry I don't use Debian for years... aptitude is an alternative package manager for debian?
15:04<oxymor00n>no it's a different front end to the package manager
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15:04<rickbot>learn apt-get first ;)
15:06<icmp_request>basically you use aptitude instead of apt-get for installing packages?
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15:07<warhead>icmp_request: apt-get is simple for use :-)
15:08<dr|z3d>aptitude isn't all that difficult, either.
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15:08<Gathond>aptitude is almost command line compatible with apt-get, so why not just learn the former
15:08<soeb>#addons on irc.mozilla.org
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15:08<dr|z3d>If you can use apt-get, you can use aptitude. If not, use Synaptic.
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15:09<dork5002>does anyone know what "No devices detected. Fatal server error: noscreens found" means when you try to start up X
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15:10<icmp_request>by default debian uses xfree86 or xorg?
15:11<warhead>icmp_request: xorg
15:11<icmp_request>thnx :)
15:11<warhead>icmp_request: np
15:11<warhead>icmp_request: But U can install xfree86 if U vont
15:12<warhead>dork5002: try with standard vesa driver
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15:13<icmp_request>it's usually NOT a good idea to skip to a non-default for a beginner in a dist. :P
15:13<icmp_request>well, I've booted and I'm installing X already thanks guys :)
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15:15<warhead>icmp_request: for example if U have only installed debian base system, and wont to install kde, need only write in konsole "apt-get install kde", and apt-get automatic pull all package for xorg,kde...etc...
15:15<warhead>too simple :-)
15:16<icmp_request>yes for who installed LFS once it's simple lol
15:16<warhead>:-)
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15:18<caos> /server irc.empcrew.ifno
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15:20<warhead>lol
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15:21<icmp_request>is there any way to display the binary files that comes with a given package name?
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15:27<angel>hi
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15:36<samurai_debian>posso falar portugues aqui ?
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15:36<samurai_debian>i need speak english hehre ?
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15:37<samurai_debian>meu grub esta dando error2 quando tento iniciar o lenny em meu pc
15:38<samurai_debian>tenho o lenny e o etch
15:38<samurai_debian>alguem pode me ajudar ?
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15:38<LL00>!es
15:38<LL00>!br
15:38<LL00>bot gone
15:38<zobel>!qotd
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15:39<LL00>there are other chans for other languages
15:39<zobel>dondelelcaro: ^
15:39<samurai_debian>sorry
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15:39<LL00>what or who is dondelelcaro
15:40<LL00>a bot?
15:40<zobel>LL00: the owner of dpkg bot.
15:40<samurai_debian>LL00
15:40<LL00>ok
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15:40<samurai_debian>i have etch and lenny on my pc
15:40<samurai_debian>and
15:40<samurai_debian>lenny don't boot
15:40<samurai_debian>:(
15:40<samurai_debian>can you help me ?
15:41<zobel>can you tell us an error message?
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15:42<LL00>if you want to speak portugues, there is #debian-br
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15:42<jos>#debian
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15:43<jos>is there anyway to disable the X server on startup
15:44<cassini__>sorry
15:44<cassini__>i'm back now
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15:45<dr|z3d>jos: Sure, try disabling gdm from starting as a service.
15:45<dr|z3d>(Or whatever login manager you're running)
15:45<justdebian>jos: uninstall xdm|kdm|gdm
15:45<valdyn>!nodm
15:45<cassini__>hey, someone can help me ?
15:45<valdyn>jos: echo false > /etc/X11/default-display-manager ( but read it first )
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15:46<jos>I don't want an x client running on the oox
15:46<jos>*Box
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15:46<dr|z3d>jos: aptitude uninstall gdm would probably work fine, assuming you're running gdm
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15:47<dr|z3d>Or rather, "remove".
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15:48<jos>/etc/X11/default-display-manager just says /usr/bin/gdm can i comment that out
15:48<dr|z3d>Sure.
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15:48<jos>cool, thanks
15:48<valdyn>jos: you could but that would create an error message, likely
15:49<dr|z3d>aptitude remove gdm
15:49<dr|z3d>Safest way.. you can always reinstall later.
15:49<jos>ok comment it out and put false in the file aswell
15:49<jos>ok
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15:49<jos>thanks
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15:51<samurai_debian>why my grub can't boot lenny ?
15:51<christoph>Hi all! Is there an place to ask questions about lisp in debian? #lisp in freenode only tell me to not use debian packages ...
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15:56<goodger>christoph: probably best ask here. I can't imagine why they would say that
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15:57<jos>why does apache run as root
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15:57<simonrvn>only because of the GFDL licence on some of the lisp docs
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15:57<goodger>jos: it should run as httpd
15:57<simonrvn>jos: only the parent does
15:57<simonrvn>no, it should run as www-data, ad it does.
15:57<simonrvn>and*
15:58<jos>ok thanks
15:58<christoph>I'm trying SWIG + cffi => sbcl; when (load) ing the generated .lisp file sbcl claims there is no module cffi
15:59<Mykroft>i have a fresh install etch that i setup with a raid 1 through the latest instaler. When i dist-upgraded to lenny it won't boot into the new kernel
15:59<Mykroft>do i need to add the raid modules to the initrd or something?
16:00<christoph>goodger, they say debian is too outdated ;)
16:01<goodger>let's see
16:01<christoph>and cl-cffi is only an yaer old :)
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16:06<altaner>good evening. Is there abybody there?
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16:09<altaner>Mmm... can you answer for one question? I have .iso images of Debian's 4 dvds. How can I use it like repositories?
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16:10<altaner>Maybe I can mount it like a usual CDROM?
16:11<Gil>fgf
16:11<altaner>I want to add them to /apt/sources.list, for I can use it anytime without mounting it. Is this possible?
16:11<christoph>altaner, loopounting and using deb cdrom:... in /etc/apt/sources.list
16:11<samurai_debian>use the cloop module of the kernel
16:11<samurai_debian>search about it in thew internet
16:11<samurai_debian>the internet
16:11<samurai_debian>then
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16:11<samurai_debian>you mont you isos
16:11<samurai_debian>and
16:12<samurai_debian>add to the repositories
16:12<samurai_debian>to add to the repositories
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16:12<kop>altaner : man fstab, man mount will tell you all you need to know about mounting. As mentioned check out the loop option.
16:12<samurai_debian>you use the option "cd:
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16:13<altaner>Yeah, I know - I'm a newbie in the Linux :) Installed it two days ago. This time I spend in tries to make the internet working.
16:14<samurai_debian>this is the way
16:14<samurai_debian>don't back
16:14<altaner>But, maybe, you can just give me an example? I have an image in /home/alt/install/image.iso
16:14<samurai_debian>.....
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16:15<altaner>It is a 4th Debian's DVD. How can I just add it to repository?
16:15<samurai_debian>i'm thinking ..... wait a litle please
16:16<jrabbit>:|
16:16<jrabbit>Why the hell are you using the dvds.
16:16<altaner>Example, please. To ask a right question you must know the 50% of answer. Shekley, AIK. But I don't know even a 10% of answer ) And I don't know what to look in the manuals
16:16<samurai_debian>mount -o loop (path of iso) /montagepoint
16:16<altaner>jrabbit: and what I must to use?
16:16*jrabbit pauses
16:17<jrabbit>The Internet (Cue hand motions)
16:17<altaner>samurai_debian: thanks.
16:17<samurai_debian>you are welcome
16:18<altaner>jrabbit: my internet is GPRS - it's a low speed and a high cost ) I walked to a friend with an unlimit and downloaded Debian )
16:18<samurai_debian>but if i'm not talking errors, the .iso don't needs be mount
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16:18<jrabbit>mmm even then it'd be saner to move the box to his conenctino temprorarily
16:18<samurai_debian>you just add to the repos and voilà !
16:18<jrabbit>you use the first disc then isntall what you need + updates but that kind of works
16:18<altaner>samurai_debian: Mmm... but how must I add this repositories?
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16:19<christoph>goodger, you see, very satisfactory asking on #lisp ;)
16:19<jrabbit>altaner: I'm pretty sure when you insert the disc it prompts you on the GUI about it
16:19<goodger>christoph: yeah... not so much
16:19<jrabbit>or loop mounting the iso
16:20<samurai_debian>altaner
16:20<samurai_debian>are you using synaptic ?
16:20<samurai_debian>if yes
16:20<altaner>jrabbit: Yes, yes, yes. But I don't want to use the easiest method. I wish to understand, how it works. For ease I could use windows )
16:21<altaner>samurai_debian: yes. I use it
16:21<samurai_debian>in synaptic
16:21<jrabbit>lol. well there is a commented out line for a CD disc on /etc/aptsources.list
16:21<jrabbit>*/
16:21<samurai_debian>go to config>repos.
16:21<samurai_debian>tneh go to the third tab
16:21<samurai_debian>and clik on "add cd-rom"
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16:22<samurai_debian>i think it's works
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16:22<samurai_debian>sorry, is the second tab
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16:23<altaner>samurai_debian: this method want a CD-ROM in drive, then it scans the CD. But I want to use not a CD, but an .iso image
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16:25<dr|z3d>altaner: Perhaps furiousiso might help..
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16:26<crunchbang>hello
16:26<altaner>Hi
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16:27<crunchbang>i are use live cd now loveing it
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16:28<altaner>Mmm... I mounted the .iso image to a /media/iso1. How can I add it to the repositories list now?
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16:29<simonrvn>"i'm using a live cd now, and i'm loving it"
16:29<simonrvn>sorry, couldn't help it... just trying to help with the grammar...
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16:30<icmp_request>after I startx, the other ttys get green or blank... do you have any clue about that could be happening?
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16:31<icmp_request>tty1-6 = green/blank = nothing displayed
16:31<simonrvn>sounds like a video driver issue
16:31<altaner>Please, people ) Answer me, if you can. How can I use mounted .iso images like a repositories? :)
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16:31<icmp_request>simonrvn: I see I'm trying to use VESA standard because my driver - "intel" - is not found
16:31<altaner>My brain is already leaking from my ears )
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16:32<icmp_request>that's on xorg
16:32<icmp_request>didn't try xfree
16:32<simonrvn>altaner: 'repository'; mount it via the loop device, and point sources.list at it.
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16:33<simonrvn>icmp_request: what kernel, and what debian revision?
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16:34<icmp_request>simonrvn: Debian 4.0 I think it's r6 because I've just installed today with network install, Kernel 2.6.18-6-686
16:34<simonrvn>!etchnhalf
16:34<dpkg>"etch + 1/2" -- an update to Debian's stable release "etch" designed to provide support for newer hardware. It includes a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf Installation instructions: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/etchnhalf See also http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf or <etchnhalf facts>
16:34<simonrvn>check out the wiki page
16:35<ike^>i thought debian had gone german on us
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16:35<icmp_request>simonrvn: thanks! I just wonder, if I used network install and the latest network .iso image wasn't it supposed to install the newest release? :S
16:36<simonrvn>no, though etchnhalf has an installer too
16:37<icmp_request>ok thnx :)
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16:41<altaner>Thank you all. I've got an answer. Bye
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16:45<Sprout|Laptop>Could someone point me to a rc2 netinst iso mirror? debian.org is failing me.
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16:47<haxi>Sprout|Laptop: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
16:47<haxi>well http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2 that's it
16:48<Sprout|Laptop>Yeah, debian.org is a no-go.
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16:50<icmp_request>simonrvn: I see... even if I install manually the drivers on X11 from my videocard on default debian the kernel does not support so I need the etch?
16:51<icmp_request>simonrvn: because I managed to install the intel driver on the standard version but it outputs errors the same way
16:52<icmp_request>(I mean X doesn't start)
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16:52<simonrvn>icmp_request: ENOPARSE your first sentence
16:53<icmp_request>sorry?
16:54<Sprout|Laptop>Anyone?
16:54<icmp_request>it seems X11 needs framebuffer support somehow so that seems why even installing the correct driver x doesn't start on non-etch
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17:00<simonrvn>meaning i didn't understand your first sentence
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17:01<Sprout|Laptop>Could someone point me to a lenny rc2 amd64 netinst mirror that works?
17:01<simonrvn>it doesn't need it; you probably enabled usefbdev, or it's looking for it.
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17:02<simonrvn>it being the x server
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17:02<simonrvn>icmp_request: ok. what are you trying to do, and what have you done so far?
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17:03<plo_koon>salve
17:03<plo_koon>c'è nessuno?
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17:04<plo_koon>anyone online?
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17:04<plo_koon>need help for debian lenny
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17:04<icmp_request>simonrvn: I'm confirming that maybe you're right about etch and that even installing the drivers needed that doesn't come with xorg by apt-get there may be needed a kernel upgrade like the etch does
17:05<plo_koon>can i use ich9/10 raid with debian?
17:05<plo_koon>(no sw raid plz)
17:05<chealer>Sprout|Laptop: cdimage.debian.org, though it's a round-robin, some might not work
17:05<simonrvn>icmp_request: very likely yes. also, what you need might only be available in lenny or sid. is this a very new computer?
17:06<Sprout|Laptop>chealer, cdimage does not work for me at all.
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17:06<icmp_request>simonrvn: kinda new, Intel 960 GL and ICH8-M chipsets
17:06<icmp_request>and it's laptop :S
17:07<Sprout|Laptop>This is useless.
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17:08<amphi>icmp_request: I'd go with lenny, unless you have some reason not to
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17:08<verdevermelho>hi
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17:09<verdevermelho>How can i search the php-* for etch in <<Search contents of Debian .jigdo files>>???
17:09<icmp_request>lenny is the unstable release?
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17:10<verdevermelho>guess its etch
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17:10<verdevermelho>the stable
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17:11<chealer>icmp_request: no
17:11<chealer>!tell icmp_request about releases
17:12<icmp_request>"The next release of Debian is codenamed "lenny" — no release date has been set"
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17:12<verdevermelho>when it will be? the next release?
17:13<verdevermelho>lol ups
17:13<icmp_request>it IS the unstable, at least it seems :P
17:13<simonrvn>icmp_request: lenny is currently testing
17:14<icmp_request>oh I see
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17:14<jos>how do i start vnc server
17:14<dr|z3d>jos: Depends on which server you have installed.
17:15<dr|z3d>tightvncserver or x11vnc are the usual suspects.
17:15<jos>i did apt-get install vncserver
17:15<amphi>icmp_request: I've been running it for months on my ICH8 laptop, and it works well
17:15<icmp_request>thanks amphi I'll get lenny then :)
17:16<chealer>verdevermelho: you can't restrict iso contents searches by suite. you have to filter the results yourself.
17:16<jos>what is installed by install vncserver
17:16<jos>can i find out
17:17<plo_koon>anyone can help me?
17:17<dr|z3d>sure, synaptgic
17:17<plo_koon>can i install debian lenny on an ich9/10 raid0/1?
17:17<dr|z3d>jos: Load up synaptic and see what files are installed.
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17:18<dr|z3d>jos: If you want a separate X11 session, try tightvncserver; if you want to mirror your primary session, use x11vnc.
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17:20<plo_koon>anyone can help?
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17:22<plo_koon>anyone here?!?!
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17:25<TakeABow>can i change users halfway through an ssh session?
17:26<abysed>su - user
17:26<jos_>how do i kill the process aptitude
17:26<jos_>it was in a putty window which i closed
17:27<abysed>ps aux, find aptitude, kill -9 pidnumber
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17:27<Plokko>thanks for not helping me ^,^
17:27<simonrvn>!kill 9
17:27*dpkg chops 9's head off with a large trout
17:27<simonrvn>!kill9
17:27<dpkg>No, no, no! Don't use kill -9. It doesn't give the process a chance to clean up after itself. See: http://www.ruhr.de/home/smallo/award.html#uuk9letter ... first try kill -15; then try kill -2; then try kill -1.
17:27<jos_>thanks i killed the parent
17:27<wnd>Plokko, you're welcome
17:27<abysed>;-o
17:27<Plokko>can i install debian lenny on an ich9/10 raid0/1?
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17:27<simonrvn>Plokko: you have our permission
17:28<Plokko>there's any driver to mount such drivers
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17:28<Plokko>*such drives lolz
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17:28<Plokko>(simonrvn: reply plz)
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17:29<simonrvn>don't demand or you'll be ignored
17:29<jos_>what does stat Sl mean?
17:29<RND_NAME>if COMPUTER_A is connected to COMPUTER_B does it have access to B's optical drives or just the hdds?
17:30<simonrvn>Plokko: then use the lenny installer
17:30<Plokko>simonrvn: i want only a yes,no i don't know
17:30<Plokko>yes
17:30<Plokko>debian lenny netinstall
17:30<jos_>i have a terminal pts/0 not connected to anything can i close it and its processes
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17:31<Plokko>does lenny support ich9/10 raids(no linux software raid)?
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17:32<simonrvn>i doubt that's even real raid, TBH
17:32<Plokko>yes
17:32<schmichael>anyone know why locate would be removed during a dist-upgrade from etch to lenny?
17:32<Plokko>but i need to mount it
17:32<Plokko>is it possible?
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17:32<jos_>i have aptitude stuck open is there anyway to kill it withou a restart
17:33<maxb>Plokko: Frankly I think you'd be better off googling than restricting yourself to the subset of knowledge possessed by people online at any given time.
17:33<Sprout|Laptop>Can anyone point me to a working lenny rc2 amd64 netinst mirror
17:33<RND_NAME>jos_ log in at another terminal
17:33<RND_NAME>then kill it
17:33<Plokko>...ok
17:33<jos_>RND_NAME, i tried that but it won't die
17:33<verdevermelho>help! i can't see the php-log in etch by jigdo <<Search contents of Debian .jigdo files>>
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17:34<jos_>what does this mean> root 4484 1 0 23:09 pts/0 00:00:02 aptitude
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17:35<Sprout|Laptop>I give up with this.
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17:39-!-mode/#debian [+l 366] by debhelper
17:39<simonrvn>!lart Sprout for ignoring all advice given
17:39*dpkg holds Sprout to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails for ignoring all advice given
17:40<verdevermelho>is there some other way to see wich cd comes with a certain package without using jigdo?
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17:43<chealer>!cd contents
17:43<dpkg>To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>.
17:43<chealer>verdevermelho: you can use that page
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17:45<chealer>dpkg: disk contents is <reply>To find out what is on what disk, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the disk.
17:45<dpkg>chealer: okay
17:45<chealer>dpkg: no, cd contents is <reply>see disk contents
17:45<dpkg>chealer: okay
17:46<verdevermelho><< or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the disk.>>
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17:47<verdevermelho>can i do that in windows?
17:47<verdevermelho>hmmmm
17:48<verdevermelho>lol gonna check it up
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17:48<verdevermelho>thank u
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17:49<Plokko>can i enable dmraid in the debian installation?
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17:52<wnd>iirc yes you can
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17:54<nick>hey
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17:54<Plokko>wnd:you was specking to me=
17:55<wnd>Plokko, yes I was
18:00<Plokko>ah ok
18:00<Plokko>so how i can use dmraid on debian installer?
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18:01<wnd>when you get to partition your disk there is an option to set up raid
18:01<Plokko>but NOT fake raid
18:02<Plokko>sorry
18:02<Plokko>not linux software raid
18:02<Plokko>i need to use ich9/10 fakeraid
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18:18<spion>hi
18:18<spion>is there allready a version of the release notes in an easy readble form available?
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18:21<valdyn>Plokko: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid
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18:23<themill>dpkg: tell spion about lenny release notes
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18:42<ewgen>this might sound really stupid since I'm pretty new to it, but I've got a server on a pretty stable connection, and I've got a domain laying around. But how to I point my domain to my server?
18:42<ewgen>I'm guessing it has something to do with dns right?
18:43<ewgen>that might have come out wrong, I'm not asking anyone to guide me through the whole operation, just what I basically need to be able to do it :-)
18:44<dr|z3d>ewgen: You need to update your dns records.
18:44<ewgen>like do I need a dns server running on the computer or?
18:44<ewgen>Alright, I'll google some on that, thanks dr|z3d :-)
18:44<dr|z3d>ewgen: Alternatively, you can just edit your hosts file if you just want local domain mapping.
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18:45<dr|z3d>ewgen: And, no, you don't need to be running a dns server. You'd need to contact the domain registrar and tell them to update your records, or do it yourself manually if possible.
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18:45<ewgen>I can update it myself on their site
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18:46<dr|z3d>Ok, then all you'd want to do is ensure your a record points to the server you wish to host the domain on.
18:46<ewgen>So basically, I just need to type in the ip of the computer and the domain will go straight to it? :-D
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18:47<dr|z3d>ewgen: Well, more or less. You'll need to wait for the dns record update to propogate, which can take up to a couple of days.
18:47<marie>hi i need help with upgrading to kde 4.2
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18:49<themill>Kim: try #debian-kde for that
18:49<Kim>themill: thanks
18:50<ewgen>dr|z3d: sweeet, thanks alot for the info! Saved me time!
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18:59<aptget>i need serious help
19:00<aptget>on my desktop i deleted my debian partition in vista to get space but now when i boot i get GRUB Loading... Error 17
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19:00<aptget>what should i do?!
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19:04<hever>run "fdisk /mbr" under vista and only boot vista this way if you want this?
19:05<aptget>my linux partition was completely deleted im using a ubuntu live cd now
19:05<aptget>i cant get into any operating system
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19:08<aptget>even when using a live cd it waits a bit and then goes error 17 again :o
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19:11<hever>aptget, you want just vista? Anyways use update-grub and install-grub to fix your grub boot loader. Or I think it should work to activate your vista parition.
19:12<hever>you can do fdisk /dev/sd(a|b|..) and then toggle the activation flag via a
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19:12<hever>I think "m" is for more help and "p" prints your parition layout
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19:13<hever>set the active flag for your vista partition and not your boot parition
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19:14<hever>it seems you've got a boot partition. I think you can mount this to your /boot and then run update-grub or install-grub
19:14<lex>hola
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19:18<aptget>hever: i cant to anything, i dont boot it just stops at error 17, i cant type anytihng or boot from a cd :(((
19:18<grummund>anyone know how to make Alt-left/right-cursor keys work in gnome terminal?
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19:19<grummund>makes it a little difficult to switch windows in irssi without that
19:19<hever>aptget, check your boot device order in bios
19:20<hever>aptget, I think you're booting from hdd instead of cdrom
19:20<aptget>i have cdrom as #1
19:21<hever>save it again now you're sure...
19:21<aptget>im downloading a vista 64bit recorvory cd right now
19:21<hever>then you must be able to boot from a bootable cd !
19:22<hever>if the ubuntu cd doesn't work this won't work, too
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19:22<aptget>damn
19:22<hever>not ?
19:22<hever>still not booting from cd ?
19:23<aptget>boot device priority: 1st boot devide [cd-rom group]
19:23<ewgen>Which package do I need to get .php working on my apache server? :-)
19:25<hever>ewgen, libapache2-mod-php5 for example and ensure its loaded with a2enmod php5 and /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
19:25<aptget>i boot to the cd then it shows ... for 1 minute and then
19:26<aptget>Grub Loading stage1.4
19:26<aptget>grub loading please wait...
19:26<aptget>Error 17
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19:29<aptget>im hoping vista recover cd will work
19:29<hever>I'm not sure if its starting from CD
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19:29<hever>Perhaps you've not a working ubuntu live cd
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19:29<hever>on vista you can go to the rescue console and do a fixmbr od fdisk /mbr
19:29<aptget>i've trying pressing esc and choosing to boot from cd rom but thqt didnt work
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19:30<hever>I think it will then boot your vista partition at next startup
19:30<aptget>ok
19:30<aptget>is that a permanent fix?
19:30<hever>good look
19:30<hever>yes
19:30<aptget>ok
19:30<hever>come back to debian ;)
19:30<aptget>my pppoe internet connection wont work on it :(
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19:31<aptget>i think im gonna switch to a hackintosh
19:31<aptget>:(
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19:31<hever>Everything works on it! Not every time at the first try but then...
19:31<aptget>ive literally tryed everything for internet
19:32<hever>good night ( a bit (not to much) luck, because I'm not a MS fan) ;)
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19:32<aptget>thabks
19:32<hever>;)
19:32<aptget>im not an ms fan either :p
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19:32<aptget>vista has support for all the programs i need like adobe flash though
19:33<Kim>flash can run on linux as well
19:34<aptget>if i could get internet working i would use debian and delete vista but i cant so... :9
19:34<aptget>:(*
19:35<Kim>oh too bad, i've been in that situation
19:35<aptget>im gonna burn recovery cd now
19:35<Kim>what kind of internet do you have?
19:35<aptget>i have pppoe
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19:37<Kim>hmm just checked it should actually be possible to use pppoe on linux
19:37<bzed>it is, definitely.
19:37<aptget>i tryed the pppoe programs to find it but they could n ever locate an active connection
19:38<bzed>there's no way to "locate" an active connection
19:38<bzed>as the dsl modem doesn't create one, if it was not asked to do it.
19:38<bzed>install pppoeconf and tell it the interface your modem is connected to
19:38<bzed>and your login data
19:38<aptget>i dont remember what it was exactly but it said something like " could not find pppoe access point"
19:38<bzed>and it'll configure ppp for you
19:39<aptget>pppoeconf was the program
19:40<aptget>i loaded the cd selected boot from cd drive but i got the error again
19:40<xrm>hey guys, i have an old sega-genisis controller, and there's a serial port on the back of my pc that it fits into
19:40<Kim>and you've tried other cd's with same result?
19:40<xrm>is tehre ayway i could get support for it?
19:41<aptget>Kim: same thing happened with ubuntu live cd
19:42<Kim>aptget: but if those doesn't work why should the vista recovery cd do it then?
19:42<aptget>idk
19:42<aptget>wishful thinking?
19:43<Kim>aptget: i think so;)
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19:44<aptget>what should i do? :(
19:44<Kim>aptget: i'm trying to see what i can do, i've had a relationship with error 17 myself but usually booting from cd helped me
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19:45<Kim>i have one suggestion it might be a bit abstract but i remember it once helped me
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19:46<bzed>aptget: are you sure your modem is connected to your ethernet card properly?
19:46<aptget>ill try ANYTHING
19:46<bzed>aptget: and the modem is powered on?
19:46<aptget>bzed: i dont care about that right now
19:46<bzed>aptget: and it actually IS a dsl modem (and not a router or something similar)?
19:46<Kim>burn qparted on a cd and try to see it starts when you boot, then delete all paritions and make a new one and then put the live cd in and see if it works then
19:46<aptget>yes it is
19:47<aptget>Kim: wont that delete my data?
19:47<Kim>aptget: i'm afraid so
19:47<aptget>i have 100gb of music that a cant afford to lose
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19:48<bzed>aptget: failure to boot from cdrom is not a problem of your hard disk
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19:48<aptget>bzed: do you have any ideas?
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19:49<Kim>do you have your music on debian or vista?
19:49<aptget>vista
19:49<aptget>C:/WhatCD/
19:49<aptget>debian partition was deleted
19:49<aptget>completely
19:50<aptget>i went into manage computer
19:50<xrm>anyone know how to get an old sega genisis contollor to work on debain?
19:50<jrabbit>Hur
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19:50<Kim>ok it's grub that needs work then
19:50<jrabbit>xrm: there mgiht be a console controler project
19:50<jrabbit>I don't know though
19:50<aptget>selected the unrecognized partition, then shrunk it to 0mb and then expanded vista to the max
19:50<jrabbit>how were you thinking of linking it? Serial?
19:51<xrm>yeah, it fits into the serial port ont eh abck of my old pc
19:51<Kim>aptget: then you haven't deleted it
19:51<aptget>i havnt?
19:51<Kim>no it's just damn small now
19:52<aptget>its 0mb
19:52<aptget>im trying to disable hdd group boot
19:52<aptget>k i disabled it
19:52<Kim>yeah but you still have the partition
19:52<aptget>im going to boot now
19:52<Kim>ok *crosses fingers
19:52<aptget>...
19:53<xrm>aww.. they only have drivers fro windows for the controllers
19:53<Kim>error 17 again?
19:53<xrm>guess i'll have to install windows?
19:53<aptget>no
19:53<aptget>beboot and select proper boot devie
19:53<aptget>its like my cdrom isnt recognized
19:53<Kim>sounds so
19:54<aptget>does intalling the cd rom .iso onto a dvd rom mess it up?
19:54<Kim>i wouldn't think so
19:54<Kim>how long is it since you last used your cd drive?
19:55<Kim>before all this
19:55<aptget>last week maybe, i dont use it much
19:55<Kim>ok and it worked perfectly there?
19:55<aptget>yes
19:57<aptget>hmm
20:00<aptget>any other ideas?
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20:24<MariachiAC>Hello everyone. Is there a site I can look at on how to create a script for makng something start up automatically?
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20:24<vito>ciao a tutti
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20:25<vito>fino a qua ci sono....ora e' na parola :)
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20:25<noflash>!it
20:25<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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20:26<vito>come faccio grazie..ad esempio #debian-it dove lo devo digitare? grazie
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20:38<ewgen>This aint really debian related, but I'll give it a shot anyway. If I want to use a psybnc with vhost, what are the things I have to do? I've got a domain, what applications do I need to learn to be able to get it to work? I've read it has to do with reverse dns, so then I'm guessing I have to run a DNS server on the computer, anything else?
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21:03<ThatGuyMike>hey all
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21:06<angasule>hello, I'm in trouble :) I locked X and went to have lunch, and can't log back in, there seems to be a keyboard issue
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21:06<angasule>I believe the keyboard layout is stuck in russian cyrillic
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21:11<boscaiolo>hi all. anyone understand exim4? I've locked out all incoming mail by removing package greylistd...
21:11<boscaiolo>They get temporarily rejected unknown ACL verb "acl_whitelist_local_deny" in "acl_whitelist_local_deny"
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21:12<boscaiolo>now I've commented out all the stanzas in conf.d/acl/... that mention acl_whitelist_local_deny and it works again
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21:12<boscaiolo>but I don't know if it was wise...
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21:17<angasule>is there any way to change the keyboard layout of X11 from a vt?
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21:19<boscaiolo>angasule: setxkbmap
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21:20<angasule_>boscaiolo: thank you :)
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21:22<boscaiolo>angasule_: when in doubt, 'apropos'
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22:06<[vr]>Hello, I am using amd64 debian - unstable and trying to locate an installable package of mencoder to satisfy DeVeDe so I can try my hand at authoring DVD's. My apt-cache search says mencoder has been deprecated... Is there a better DVD authoring tool I could be steered towards?
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22:08<schmichael>[vr]: have you looked through debian-multimedia? http://debian-multimedia.org/
22:09*schmichael knows nothing about dvd authoring
22:09<[vr]>No, I had no idea that resource existed. I will check them out. Thanks
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22:11<schmichael>[vr]: no problem. it should really be advertised better as its absolutely essential in order to work with some of the most popular multimedia formats
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22:14<[vr]>schmichael, I'm browsing... do you know off hand if they support being added to sources.list? Not seeing that on their FAQ
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22:16<schmichael>[vr]: yes they do
22:16<schmichael>most definitely
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22:30<rohan>hi
22:31<rahji>how many instances of memcached should be running on a server with 500MB of available RAM....it's a dedicated server just running memcached?
22:31<rohan>can someone help me i want to play with a friend and when he search server he only apear disconected servers
22:31<rohan>and some ips
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22:31<rohan>please help me
22:31<rohan>what i have to do?
22:32<schmichael>rohan: i'm sorry but your question doesn't even make sense. play what? whats the exact error message?
22:32<rohan>play
22:32<rohan>ottd
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22:32<rohan>and he only find servers with status off
22:32<rohan>when he press search server
22:33<schmichael>rahji: i've never used memcached, but it looks like you just want to pass the "-m 500" option to it to tell it to use 500 MB of memory
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22:33<schmichael>rahji: if memcached is threaded, 1 process is fine, otherwise you probably want to do 1 process per cpu core
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22:34<rohan>...
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22:34<rahji>thanks schmichael
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22:34<schmichael>rohan: i have no idea what ottd is, sorry
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22:34<krel>hi everyone
22:35<rohan>which is this chat about?
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22:36<schmichael>rohan: debian, the linux distro
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22:39<krel>i dont have idea haha
22:41<oigres>Is there a way of deleting "old and unused" packages using aptitude? I'm getting confussed at this.
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22:44<rahji>schmichael, i have to sites connecting to a seperate memcached server. should i have them share the one instace or split the ram between two instances
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22:46<nick>how do i use aim?
22:46<schmichael>rahji: you probably should be asking in a memcached channel not a debian one, but i would guess you want 1 instance and prefix the keys for each site
22:47<rahji>schmichael, fair enough...thanks for the help
22:47<schmichael>nick: install an instant messaging application like pidgin
22:47<schmichael>rahji: good questions though. good luck :)
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22:48<nick>oh ok, i thought ubuntu came with a client to use aim
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22:48<schmichael>nick: this is a debian channel, not an ubuntu one
22:48<nick>sorry what is debian? I am new to linux, just using this on my ps3
22:49<schmichael>nick: try #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net, but i believe ubuntu does install pidgin by default
22:49<schmichael>nick: debian is the linux distribution (flavor) that ubuntu is based on
22:49<nick>thanks!
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