--- | Log | opened Mon Mar 09 00:00:41 2009 |
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00:07 | <kop> | tcsetattr : The python way is to fork twice, wait only on the outer child but do the work on the inner child. |
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00:15 | <tcsetattr> | you'll get a lot of screwy ideas if you try to learn basic process semantics from python docs alone... |
00:16 | <kop> | tcsetattr : I asked in #python on freenode. |
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00:19 | <kop> | tcsetattr : Although, yes, why not just ignore sigchild? .... |
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00:19 | <nsa_fiend> | scenario: a bunch of text (.txt) files in a directory. i want to open them all with kedit, but i want to open them say, 20 at a time. |
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00:20 | <kop> | nsa_fiend : xargs |
00:20 | <nsa_fiend> | the first 20, then the next time the second group of 20... is that possible? |
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00:22 | <nsa_fiend> | kop: not sure xargs would work for this scenario |
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00:46 | <bighornram> | how do i reinstall a package from commandline, to replace a missing file within that given package? |
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00:47 | <nsa_fiend> | aptitude reinstall <package |
00:47 | <nsa_fiend> | aptitude reinstall <package> |
00:47 | -!- | memnon is now known as memnon_ |
00:47 | <nsa_fiend> | sudo aptitude reinstall <package> |
00:47 | <nsa_fiend> | whatever |
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00:47 | <bighornram> | thanks |
00:47 | <bighornram> | got it |
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00:51 | <bighornram> | nsa_fiend: thanks for the tip, back in business. have a good night, or day where ever you are. |
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01:15 | <meshuggah> | hello |
01:18 | <goodger> | hello |
01:20 | <meshuggah> | how are you? |
01:23 | <Supaplex> | !test |
01:23 | <dpkg> | Test Failed. |
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02:00 | <memnon> | Hi. I just installed a notification add on for my irc client. Could someone say my name please, so I see if it is working? thx ;) |
02:01 | <Supaplex> | dpkg: say memnon no, we refuse. |
02:01 | <dpkg> | memnon no, we refuse. |
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02:01 | <memnon> | thx, works fine ;) |
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02:02 | <memnon> | sorry, ot, I am off to bed ... |
02:02 | <Supaplex> | it's okay. good night =) |
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02:02 | <Supaplex> | <<-- a tease |
02:02 | <memnon> | got it ;) n8 |
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02:03 | * | goodger should be waking up in two hours... |
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02:06 | <sun> | hi how do i do a screen capture? im running x and iceweasel, and there's a java applet that makes a diagram that i want to put on my blog, but its in flash. |
02:06 | <Supaplex> | sun: ksnapshot works for me. |
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02:08 | <jm_> | !tell sun -about sshot |
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02:10 | <ml> | wow xmonad rocks :D |
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02:17 | <sun> | thanks supaplex and jm_. im a fan of imagemagick and i got it working with import -window etc. |
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02:50 | <burbuja> | hi, which iso-images I need to install debian, please? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-cd/ |
02:50 | <burbuja> | there are 31 isos |
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02:50 | <burbuja> | I hope 3 - 5 |
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02:51 | <cahoot> | http://debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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02:52 | <burbuja> | cahoot: is it for me? |
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02:52 | <cahoot> | yes |
02:53 | <burbuja> | ok, thank. Could you tell me, what is there in these 30 isos? |
02:54 | <burbuja> | very simple |
02:54 | <burbuja> | simply |
02:54 | <cahoot> | all 15000 progs for all archs + source |
02:54 | <goodger> | burbuja: all of debian is in those 30 isos. the netinst iso downloads only what is needed |
02:55 | <cahoot> | +docs |
02:55 | <burbuja> | goodger: thank you as well. so netinstall is the recomanded way to install debian? |
02:55 | <cahoot> | the most economical anyway |
02:56 | <burbuja> | net install uses apt-get ? |
02:56 | <burbuja> | or wget |
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02:57 | <burbuja> | ok, thank you |
02:57 | <jm_> | it installs the base from CD, then you install the rest using apt |
02:58 | <burbuja> | aha |
02:59 | <burbuja> | I expected there would be an hdd-installer on the live-CD, but it does not seems so |
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03:01 | <burbuja> | bye |
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03:03 | <chitchat> | Hello. Can anyone please tell me how, under Debian Lenny, which package I should install to get the GCC man pages like strcpy? |
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03:04 | <jm_> | manpages-dev manpages-posix-dev - and it's not a gcc man page |
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03:06 | <chitchat> | Hey, thanks jm_! |
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03:08 | <chitchat> | I have another question in relation to Lenny: apt-get install mplayer does not seem to install mencoder. Am I doing something wrong? |
03:09 | <goodger> | chitchat: you need to install mencoder separately |
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03:10 | <chitchat> | goodger: I assumed that the two were combined like on other distros and the man page appears to indicate it. But I did try aptitude search mencoder and nothing comes up. Am I missing a repository? |
03:10 | <goodger> | maybe, let's poke it |
03:11 | <jm_> | d-m has mencoder |
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03:12 | <goodger> | mm, looks like mencoder is only found in dm |
03:12 | <chitchat> | jm_: pardon the newbie question, but what do I add where under Debian? You can obviously tell I'm used to something else :-) |
03:13 | <goodger> | !lett chitchat about debian-multimedia |
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03:13 | <goodger> | damn |
03:13 | <goodger> | !tell chitchat about debian-multimedia |
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03:23 | <HellTiger> | !tell helltiger about debian-multimedia |
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03:23 | <jm_> | !tell HellTiger -about selftell |
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03:24 | <HellTiger> | ok. :] |
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03:29 | <chitchat> | goodger and jm_: Thank you so much for your help. Life is good again :-) |
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03:29 | <goodger> | that's ok |
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03:41 | <ml> | anyone around that know xmonad? |
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03:51 | <Glanzmann> | Hello; I would like to install Debian Lenny from a USB Stick. What is the fastest way to accomplish that? |
03:52 | <Glanzmann> | Modifying netboot? |
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03:53 | <Glanzmann> | I think so. |
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03:58 | <cahoot> | as described here? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install |
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04:05 | <jm_> | installation guide explains how to put installer on an USB drive |
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04:21 | <vader897500> | hmm, i have a question... |
04:21 | <vader897500> | does anyone know of an easy way to generate a html page which lists all the files in some folder? |
04:22 | <jm_> | apache has built-in mechanism for that |
04:22 | <jm_> | (or rather, a module) |
04:22 | <vader897500> | I am trying to achieve an online catalog of all my movies i have... |
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04:28 | <badguy> | hi ;) |
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04:30 | <absolutelymster> | hi... |
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04:30 | <absolutelymster> | hi |
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04:30 | <absolutelymster> | hello |
04:31 | <absolutelymster> | ...? |
04:31 | <cahoot> | feeling lonely? |
04:31 | <absolutelymster> | oh yeah |
04:31 | <absolutelymster> | soooo lonely |
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04:32 | <eluveitie> | tom biste da??? |
04:32 | <absolutelymster> | ghi |
04:32 | <absolutelymster> | *hi |
04:33 | <azeem_> | !de |
04:33 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
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04:33 | <eluveitie> | hi guys |
04:33 | <absolutelymster> | hi |
04:33 | <azeem> | do you have a Debian question? |
04:34 | <eluveitie> | yes |
04:34 | <eluveitie> | why are you so ugly |
04:34 | <eluveitie> | ??? |
04:34 | <absolutelymster> | eluveitie shut up your stupid |
04:34 | <jm_> | tschuss then |
04:34 | <azeem> | absolutelymster: please refrain from ad-hominem attacks |
04:36 | <eluveitie> | are you gay |
04:36 | <eluveitie> | i am |
04:36 | <absolutelymster> | pls bann eluveitie |
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04:36 | <azeem> | absolutelymster: done |
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04:37 | <cahoot> | azeem: weren't the two the same? |
04:37 | <jm_> | two for the price of one |
04:37 | <azeem> | cahoot: oops :) |
04:37 | <cahoot> | no harm |
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05:32 | <valdyn> | vader897: something like that is probably in every second php tutorial |
05:33 | <valdyn> | vader897: but your web server can list directories too |
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05:38 | <pos> | !paste |
05:38 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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05:53 | <fastidio> | hi folks |
05:53 | <fastidio> | i'm in trouble |
05:53 | <fastidio> | i've deleted the .kde4 directory in wich there was my kmail directory |
05:53 | <fastidio> | there's a way to recover that directory? |
05:54 | <valdyn> | fastidio: no |
05:54 | <fastidio> | damn |
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05:54 | <valdyn> | !backup |
05:54 | <dpkg> | i heard backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression), or <lolcat1> |
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05:54 | <valdyn> | !lolcat1 |
05:54 | <dpkg> | lolcat1 is probably http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1174324818-oh_noes.jpg |
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05:55 | <jm_> | !undelete |
05:55 | <dpkg> | from memory, undeleting is Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" form menu. With ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
05:57 | <fastidio> | thanks, i'm going to read ext3fs manual |
05:57 | <fastidio> | *ext3grep |
05:57 | <jm_> | read that document first, it's very well written |
05:58 | <fastidio> | ok |
05:58 | <fastidio> | thanks a lot |
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06:22 | <debam> | hi to all,in lenny XDMCP supports shadowing or not?if the thin client detached from the server , can it start from the same point from where the session got discontinued |
06:22 | <TMcTrain> | hello! |
06:23 | <jm_> | debam: no |
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06:23 | <TMcTrain> | I installes usbmount on a fresh Lenny System and mounting an usb-stick works perfect. but is it possible to run a predefined script on the system every time a new usb stick is plugged in? |
06:23 | <Wuawydu> | What this channel is about ? |
06:23 | <jm_> | TMcTrain: yes |
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06:23 | <@Ganneff> | Wuawydu: guess what. Debian. |
06:24 | <Wuawydu> | WHat i sDebia ? |
06:24 | <Wuawydu> | Some prog, fro progrem!? |
06:24 | <TMcTrain> | how can i do this? |
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06:24 | <jm_> | you can use udev |
06:24 | <TMcTrain> | the script should supposed to be check.pl |
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06:25 | <TMcTrain> | can you specify your hint? |
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06:27 | <jm_> | read Writing udev rules document - just add a rule that matches it and an action for it |
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06:27 | <jm_> | it's pretty simple |
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06:34 | <jak> | hi, i want to know which file system is better for clustering |
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06:36 | <SAN> | hi , i am going to configure the cluster in my debian machine and i saw GFS and GlusterFS |
06:37 | <SAN> | which is better or anyother is better |
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06:46 | <jak> | hi, anyone tellme . which file system is suited for clustering |
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07:00 | <bruno> | ciao |
07:01 | <bruno> | ce qualcuno |
07:01 | <buffoon_work> | !it |
07:01 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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07:02 | <bruno> | e dove lo trovo debian.it |
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07:04 | <bruno> | aiuto |
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07:04 | <bruno> | totem non funziona |
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07:05 | <bruno> | va be ciao |
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07:06 | <ozdeb> | hi, I have a general question about cloning debian with dd. If I completely clone a hard drive with dd, will I still need to install grub later ? |
07:07 | <glance> | anyone hahve a clue where i can find a lenny-compatible acenic_tg2.bin ? |
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07:10 | <Mark_> | dd works on the mbr |
07:11 | <SAN> | hi please give me related cluster packages in debian |
07:11 | <Mark_> | but i dont know if what you will want to do will work exactly |
07:11 | <gsimmons> | glance: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=tree;f=acenic;h=efbc4d6f4daba80f24d1cee1c71a0389708ab349;hb=HEAD |
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07:13 | <glance> | gsimmons: thanks =) |
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07:14 | <valdyn> | ozdeb: no |
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07:16 | <ozdeb> | valdyn, so I clone the hard drives, and then install grub manually ? |
07:16 | <rvetrov> | всем прива |
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07:16 | <valdyn> | ozdeb: no |
07:17 | <koollman> | ozdeb: it may work directly. but cloning with dd isn't really great |
07:17 | <koollman> | some things can change, like disk size or organizations |
07:17 | <valdyn> | ozdeb: I answered "no" to your question |
07:17 | <koollman> | and, it's probably the less efficient way to clone a system |
07:17 | <valdyn> | its decently efficient |
07:17 | <ozdeb> | koollman, than what is efficient ? |
07:18 | <valdyn> | depending on how far the disk is filled |
07:18 | <koollman> | valdyn: not with recent, big disks. |
07:18 | <koollman> | really :) |
07:18 | <valdyn> | it can also be vastly faster for tons of small files |
07:18 | <valdyn> | and its at least a pretty safe method |
07:18 | <koollman> | ozdeb: copying files, by partitions, with some copying tools (ideally the 'dump' equivalent of the filesystem you are using) |
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07:19 | <Mark_> | if you have a ton of the same exact drive |
07:19 | <Mark_> | you can do it |
07:19 | <koollman> | right. for any other purpose, it's rather crappy :) |
07:19 | <And1> | Hey folks, what do I need to install to use php's "imagecreatefromjpeg()"? |
07:20 | <valdyn> | And1: what does that generate? |
07:20 | <Mark_> | you need gd |
07:20 | <koollman> | And1: php.net/imagecreatefromjpeg |
07:20 | <And1> | valdyn: thumbnails, I think. |
07:20 | <And1> | Mark_: php5-gd looks fine, I'll try that. |
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07:23 | <valdyn> | cloning the partition table + dd for the mbr + dump + restore is alot more work for *me* than dd |
07:23 | <And1> | Mark_, koollman: Hrm, after installing this package it still doesn't work. |
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07:24 | <koollman> | And1: restart apache to load the module |
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07:25 | <And1> | koollman: Oh, ok. Me silly. |
07:25 | <neoXite> | hello, how can i direct udev to recreate a deleted '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' file? thank you for any clues. |
07:25 | <And1> | Thanks guys. :) |
07:25 | <neoXite> | distro is lenny, forgot to mention that |
07:25 | <Mark_> | php has to be built against gd |
07:25 | <Mark_> | so |
07:25 | <valdyn> | neoXite: thats automagic on next reboot |
07:26 | <Mark_> | let me look how to do it in debian |
07:26 | <neoXite> | valdyn: it used to be that way for me, in etch. |
07:26 | <Mark_> | ive only done it in redhat and gentoo |
07:26 | <Mark_> | k do you have a package available called |
07:26 | <Mark_> | php5-gd |
07:26 | <Mark_> | ? |
07:26 | <Mark_> | apt-get install php5-gd |
07:26 | <neoXite> | valdyn: never witnessed it doing so on lenny though. |
07:26 | <petern> | that's not quite "built against gd" heh |
07:26 | <And1> | Mark_: Yup. After restarting apache it works fine. Thanks. :) |
07:27 | <petern> | installing the module is, generally, much simpler :) |
07:27 | <Mark_> | ahh |
07:27 | <Mark_> | k |
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07:27 | <a> | ciao |
07:27 | <jm_> | neoXite: see 75-persistent-net-generator.rules |
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07:27 | <a> | io ho scaricato lxde |
07:27 | <koollman> | I hate that file. really. I often forget to remove it after upgrades |
07:27 | <a> | sapete com'è |
07:27 | <a> | ? |
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07:28 | <koollman> | !it |
07:28 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
07:28 | <neoXite> | jm_: i know 75-persistent-net-generator.rules i involved in recreating 70-persistent-net.rules, but i don't know how to trigger recreation |
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07:28 | <valdyn> | neoXite: hotplugging the device does |
07:29 | <a> | ok |
07:29 | <valdyn> | neoXite: that happens on a reboot or on a real hotplug or on a simulated hotplug |
07:30 | <jm_> | neoXite: it's done on boot, or module load etc. |
07:30 | <neoXite> | valdyn: i might have found the issue, seems like 75-persistent-net-generator.rules in lenny is instructed to ignore Xen NIC's |
07:30 | <jm_> | from the file comments: |
07:30 | <jm_> | # ignore Xen virtual interfaces |
07:30 | <jm_> | SUBSYSTEMS=="xen", GOTO="persistent_net_generator_end" |
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07:31 | <neoXite> | jm_: exactly. |
07:31 | <neoXite> | jm_: gonna try to comment out those lines. |
07:31 | <koollman> | that's because usually xen creates it's own devices |
07:31 | <koollman> | (in the net startup scripts) |
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07:32 | <neoXite> | koollman: i suppose, but i statically assigned a certain MAC to a xen NIC and would like that nic to maintain a functional name like 'wan0' inside the guest-OS |
07:34 | <neoXite> | anyway, commenting the ignore-xen stuff out for one reboot did the trick |
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07:36 | <shillelagh> | anyone know why a fresh install of Debian 5.0 would not use my monitor's 1024x768 resolution? |
07:36 | <shillelagh> | I'm stuck at 800x600 here, even after the nvidia drivers are set up. |
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07:37 | <shillelagh> | Used to be I'd just edit the line in my xorg.conf file so it had the resolutions of 640x480 800x600 & 1024x768, but now the xorg.conf file is pretty much empty |
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07:40 | <SAN> | please tell me what are the packages are required for clustering |
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07:48 | <SAN> | hi anyone know about the cluster |
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07:51 | <gsimmons> | glance: np. Out of interest, what AceNIC-based device are you using? |
07:51 | <themill> | SAN: cluster of what? disks? databases? simulation nodes? You need to formulate a specific question and searching around to find the right way to ask the question first might help. /msg dpkg ask ; /msg dpkg smart questions |
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07:53 | <glance> | gsimmons: 0006:21:01.0 Ethernet controller: Alteon Networks Inc. AceNIC Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01) |
07:54 | <SAN> | themill, disk based cluster only |
07:54 | <themill> | glance: can you give us the PCI-id? (lspci -nn) |
07:54 | <glance> | its a lpar in a p690 that im trying to install debian in. |
07:54 | <glance> | 12ae:0001 |
07:54 | <themill> | judd pciid 12ae:0001 |
07:54 | <judd> | themill: [12ae:0001] is 'AceNIC Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Alteon Networks Inc.' with kernel module 'acenic' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi?check=1&lspci=12ae:0001 |
07:55 | <glance> | i have actualy no success... |
07:55 | <themill> | SAN: I can't help you with that -- I'm just encouraging you to ask questions that will actually get answers. |
07:55 | <glance> | the kernel just oopses when i load that driver. |
07:55 | <jm_> | try newer kernel/driver |
07:56 | <SAN> | thanks themill |
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07:57 | <glance> | hmm.. now when i tested, i took the net-install-image for powerpc64, added the acenic.ko and firmware to the initrd and tested |
07:58 | <glance> | but that module was from the "ordinary" kernel, and not from the install-kernel. |
07:58 | <glance> | anyone know if they are compatible or if its maybe there my fault lays. |
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08:02 | <buffoon_work> | glance, are you sure that it isn't enough to just load the firmware? |
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08:03 | <glance> | the driver isn't in the netinstaller initramfs. |
08:03 | <buffoon_work> | maybe it's compiled into the kernel |
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08:05 | <buffoon_work> | But i have actually no idea about D-I. I just remember that the FAI images have the network drivers all compiled in the kernel. Maybe it is the same for the installer images |
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08:07 | <glance> | it looks like the di-kernel isn't updated after http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=460667 |
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08:08 | <SAN> | hi friends, anyone know about the cluster |
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08:25 | <sapi_kren> | hi |
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08:30 | <hazim> | /msg CineHAwK-27 XDCC SEND #2 |
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08:31 | <glance> | funny stuff. |
08:31 | <cahoot> | l33t |
08:31 | <spaztik> | hi, does anyone here know if there's a client for nessus that doesn |
08:31 | <spaztik> | that doesn't require that X be installed? |
08:31 | <glance> | the lenny kernel just oopsed, but i got etch rolling =) |
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09:06 | <zxd> | is there a tool for auto generating md5sum in .dsc files? |
09:06 | <zxd> | and maybe also generating a key |
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09:24 | <jackie4u254> | Hi all ... pls anybody able to help me with network conectivity problem after install Lenny? ... Iam not very experienced, but hope that Iam not a lame ... |
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09:27 | <jackie4u254> | Firstly I installed Lenny without any problems, but I installed it on bad partition so I reinstalled and now I can not ping to any outside adress |
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09:31 | <cahoot> | not even an IP#? |
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09:35 | <jackie4u254> | No - I do not get an IP from DHCP and I can not find it out (google) how to force Lenny to recieve it |
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09:36 | <cahoot> | does /sbin/ifconfig show any net device beside lo? |
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09:37 | <jm_> | is it configured for dhcp? auto config at boot? |
09:37 | <jackie4u254> | yes eth0 and wmaster (I guess) but without the IP adress |
09:37 | <adb> | restart the router/switch |
09:38 | <jackie4u254> | it should be configured for dhcp |
09:38 | <cahoot> | try dhclient eth0 |
09:38 | <jm_> | should ... but is it? |
09:38 | <jackie4u254> | I did ... it should not be a network problem |
09:39 | <adb> | it may be , so restart the router/switch |
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09:40 | <ozdeb> | a somewhat odd question: How do I know if my raid is working ? |
09:40 | <jackie4u254> | I get and DNS and ping router but not outside ... I will try dhclient eth0 and restart router ... be right back |
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09:43 | <pawel> | hello |
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09:43 | <pawel> | I have old computer, AVR ATmega32 evaluation board and STK200 programmer (LPT). I tried to program this board with UISP and AVRDUDE (with device /dev/parport0), but I always get the same error "Cannot find device". Some photos and output of "ls" command in /dev/ are at http://pkkm.oxyhost.com/tosh/. Can someone help me? |
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09:44 | <jackie4u254> | back ... dhclient does not work, cause not found |
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09:46 | <jackie4u254> | can not restart router right now, because Iam at university, but friend installed with me same version (Lenny netinst amd64) in same time without any problem ... so it must be in my laptop |
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09:47 | <jackie4u254> | reinstall does not help too |
09:47 | <jackie4u254> | any other ideas? |
09:47 | <jm_> | you need to figure out if your NIC is working at all |
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09:48 | <pawel> | it didn't work in my computer, but after few restarts it started working, chect your /etc/interfaces |
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09:49 | <rene> | I've problem with ifupdown.. ex: ifdown eth0 |
09:49 | <rene> | ifdown : inteface eth0 not configured |
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09:49 | <rene> | but with ifconfig work fine |
09:49 | <jackie4u254> | if u mean if hardware is ok ... so Iam working now on that laptop on WinXP :-( ... but Iam not familiar with console commands as far to solve it alone :'( |
09:50 | <jm_> | rene: don't mix the two |
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09:50 | <jm_> | jackie4u254: first identify which NIC/driver it is, then use tools like ethtool to check link status |
09:50 | <adb> | pawel: your URL is long ... very |
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09:50 | <jackie4u254> | eth0 is up ... in router DHCP clients I see that it gave me IP but in /sbin/ifconfig -a can not see that adress |
09:50 | <adb> | 2-3 min and nothing |
09:51 | <Syd> | anyone here use Debian's drupal6 package? should I expect to see updates available? |
09:51 | <rene> | ¬¬ waiting ... |
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09:51 | <pawel> | adb: I can't do anyshing with that :) |
09:51 | <pawel> | *anything |
09:52 | <pawel> | do you know how to solve this problem? |
09:52 | <jm_> | you could check with tcpdump if it receives anything |
09:52 | <adb> | pawel: i don't even know what it is as computer |
09:53 | <jm_> | pawel: make sure you have parport drivers loaded |
09:53 | <jackie4u254> | will try ... brb |
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09:53 | <pawel> | I don't know |
09:53 | <jm_> | check /proc/sys/dev/parport |
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09:53 | <pawel> | how to load them? |
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09:54 | <jm_> | modprobe |
09:55 | <pawel> | just modprobe <enter> |
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09:55 | <pawel> | is this that easy? |
09:55 | <jm_> | no, you need to specify module name |
09:55 | <pawel> | modprobe parport |
09:55 | <pawel> | ? |
09:56 | <jm_> | yes |
09:56 | <jm_> | and then try loading parport_pc module after that |
09:56 | <rene> | @jm_ but /etc/init.d/networking use ifupdown |
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09:56 | <jm_> | rene: yes of course, but you are not supposed to mix ifconfig and ifupdown tools |
09:57 | <pawel> | thanks. I'll try. |
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10:00 | <rene> | so, why "/etc/init.d/networking start" not start up my interfaces ? |
10:00 | <jm_> | are they configured in interfaces file? set to auto? |
10:00 | <rene> | yes |
10:01 | <Warp4> | rene, does ifconfig give you any info? |
10:01 | <jm_> | paste your interfaces file and the output of 'ifup -a' on pastebin |
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10:01 | <paul0> | hi |
10:01 | <jm_> | and check what 'ls /sys/clas/net' says |
10:01 | <jm_> | /sys/class/net |
10:01 | <paul0> | i've tried to run compiz and the avant-window-navigador |
10:01 | <paul0> | but seems that i don't have xgl, weird |
10:01 | <LL00> | I installed bind9, how I can setup for not autolaunch it after reboot without remove it? remove the symlink in rc2.d ? any other way like on *BSD, just edit flag in rc.conf.local? |
10:02 | <paul0> | i've ran compiz in this machine another day |
10:02 | <jm_> | LL00: man update-rc,.d explains how to do it |
10:02 | <LL00> | ok thx |
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10:02 | <jm_> | uhm 'man update-rc.d' |
10:02 | <jm_> | LL00: especially pay attention to this part: A common system administration error is to delete the links |
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10:05 | <LL00> | that's why I'm asking this question :) |
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10:08 | <jackie4u254> | So Iam sorry I do not have eth0 if in /sbin/ifconfig -a |
10:08 | <jackie4u254> | it is wlan0 and wmaster ... eth0 dissapeared |
10:08 | <jm_> | right, which NIC is it? is it wireless? |
10:09 | <jackie4u254> | wlan is propably but Iam using wired connection only |
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10:09 | <gsimmons> | jackie4u254: What brand/model is the laptop you are using? |
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10:09 | <jm_> | ok, lspci -nn will show your devices (unless it's an ISA card) |
10:12 | <jackie4u254> | and ... let me explain ... when I installed business iso it downloaded and installed the base system with kernel etc... after apt configuration my network con.is unable to connect and in aptitude I see that I have only base packages (so tcpdump and others a do not have installed) |
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10:13 | <jm_> | yeah that looks like driver is not working/available for it |
10:14 | <jackie4u254> | so I will check lspci -nn and |
10:14 | <jackie4u254> | *brb |
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10:19 | <TMcTrain> | in which file can i change or add dircolours |
10:20 | <zxd> | is there a command better than dpkg -l , that will list all packages installed but only the package name |
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10:22 | <paul0> | i'm having problems with Xgl, compiz doesn't run |
10:22 | <adb> | ask #compiz |
10:23 | <adb> | on freenode |
10:23 | <paul0> | ok, thanks |
10:23 | <adb> | np |
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10:25 | <jm_> | TMcTrain: wherever you want, you can import it in your shell init file using eva; $(dircolors foo) |
10:25 | <jm_> | eval |
10:25 | <jm_> | doh, my typing is even more useless today |
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10:26 | <LL00> | how I can check if the manpage of update-rc.d is UTF or not ? |
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10:26 | <LL00> | encoded* |
10:27 | <TMcTrain> | i want to ad a color for a special extension |
10:27 | <TMcTrain> | or change color for gif :-) |
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10:27 | <jm_> | type dircolors to get an idea for the format |
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10:28 | <LL00> | 'man ls' I got accent, but 'man update-rc.d' I got weird chars instead of accents |
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10:29 | <jackie4u> | Hi ... so I have tried lspci but the command was not found either |
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10:30 | <themill> | LL00: you could send it through recode or iconv to change the encoding to UTF-8 and see if it's different. Or look at it in a hex editor and see if the code point is right for the character that it should be. |
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10:30 | <jackie4u> | Which file/log you will need to check if NIC driver is correct and where could be a problem? |
10:30 | <TMcTrain> | the format istsn't the problem, its the file or way to change or ad this! :-) |
10:31 | <jackie4u> | I hope that I could upload it to debianforums.org |
10:32 | <LL00> | hum themill I don't kno whow to use iconv |
10:33 | <themill> | LL00: man iconv; but using a hexeditor would be easier. |
10:34 | <LL00> | 1st I need to locate where is the file of the manpages for update-rc.d |
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10:34 | <LL00> | got it |
10:34 | <themill> | LL00: "locate update-rc.d" :) |
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10:37 | <LL00> | themill, what about zcat /usr/share/man/fr/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz |
10:37 | <themill> | LL00: that will show you the file, but won't necessarily tell you the encoding. |
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10:38 | <LL00> | I read some accents for some lines and wierd chars for other lines |
10:38 | <gsimmons> | jackie4u254: The /var/log/dmesg file would assist. Again, what brand/model is the laptop you are using? |
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10:39 | <themill> | !dbugs 499863 |
10:39 | <jackie4u> | it is Asus F3JC no problem with other distros |
10:39 | <dpkg> | #499863:M[sysv-rc] sysv-rc: update-rc.d(8) french manpage badly encoded (l10n patch); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:06:01 UTC [] |
10:39 | <themill> | LL00: ^^ |
10:39 | <LL00> | lol |
10:39 | <LL00> | so it's a bug? |
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10:40 | <themill> | LL00: Quite. One that's been around for a bit and even has a patch to fix it. It will get fixed one day... if it's a real problem for you, then you could apply the patch that's in the bug to fix the man page. |
10:42 | <LL00> | is it easy to patch it? |
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10:42 | <LL00> | I got the patch link |
10:42 | <LL00> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=499863 |
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10:43 | <josea> | hola buenos dias a todos |
10:43 | <josea> | hi all |
10:43 | <LL00> | if it's not easy, I will learn how to patch another day |
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10:43 | <LL00> | I can read this manpages in english |
10:44 | <LL00> | or this man from web site |
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10:44 | <josea> | LL00> hi |
10:44 | <Dorin> | heelo |
10:44 | <Dorin> | hello |
10:44 | <LL00> | hi josea |
10:44 | <josea> | LL00> you speaking spanish? |
10:44 | <LL00> | no |
10:44 | <LL00> | !es |
10:44 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
10:44 | <themill> | LL00: it's not going to be that easy to patch because the patch also touches some other files.... |
10:44 | <Dorin> | yo se español |
10:44 | <Dorin> | :) |
10:45 | <josea> | :) |
10:45 | <josea> | Dorin> holaa que suerte tengo |
10:45 | <LL00> | themill, ok, I give up to patch for the moment |
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10:45 | <Dorin> | si:D |
10:45 | <Dorin> | holla |
10:45 | <Dorin> | :) |
10:45 | <Dorin> | de donde eres josea ? |
10:45 | <themill> | LL00: yeah, if you can either cope in english or look on the web, then that will be much easier |
10:45 | <josea> | Dorin> de Peru, tengo problemas serios con ldap :( |
10:45 | <themill> | Dorin, josea: Por favor /join #debian-es. |
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10:46 | <josea> | Dorin> en debian-es estan dormidos todos |
10:46 | <LL00> | if I patch it, it's just to learn how to do that |
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10:46 | <Dorin> | yo soy de España:D |
10:46 | <josea> | Dorin> puedo mandarte un privado para no interrumpir en la sala? |
10:46 | <LL00> | right now I have alot other things to leanr before patching manpages |
10:46 | <jackie4u> | I can read some info from /var/log/dmesg file directly from my laptop ... if anybody have a time for me to help - because Iam not able to upload it right now |
10:46 | <Dorin> | si |
10:46 | <Dorin> | :þ |
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10:47 | <kevin> | How do I get Debian Lenny's xorg to recognize that I have a widescreen? |
10:47 | <Dorin> | :D |
10:47 | <Gun_Smoke> | buy it a beer |
10:47 | <TMcTrain> | ok i'm dumb! I can read out the colors with dircolors -b / -p ... but how can I get the updated colors back? |
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10:53 | <kevin> | Does anyone here know how to get 1366x768 resolution in Lenny? |
10:54 | <mibman> | kevin: Isn't there resolution tool under system> Preference? |
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10:54 | <cahoot> | kevin: xrandr -q doesn't list it? |
10:55 | <kevin> | mibman: Yes. It's not listed though. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg, but no dice. |
10:55 | <kevin> | cahoot: No, it doesn't. |
10:55 | <mibman> | Hmm. Yeah. It isn't listed. |
10:55 | <cahoot> | kevin: resort to creating a modeline with gtf? |
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10:56 | <kevin> | cahoot: Not familiar with those terms. What are/is they/that? |
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10:57 | <cahoot> | http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes |
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11:00 | <And1> | Why do I have (127.0.0.1 and) 127.0.1.1 in my /etc/hosts? |
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11:01 | <gsimmons> | !why 127.0.1.1 |
11:01 | <dpkg> | it has been said that why 127.0.1.1 is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-dns |
11:01 | <And1> | Thanks. |
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11:03 | <And1> | How would a third address look like? 127.0.2.1 org 127.0.1.2? |
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11:07 | <mohloven> | hi |
11:07 | <voyager_mp> | hi |
11:07 | <mohloven> | mohammed egypt |
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11:08 | <And1> | gsimmons: When I have "127.0.1.1 and1.domain.com" in my /etc/hosts, then this domain links to my pc-ip, but when others in the same network ping the domain, do they get a response from my pc or from the interweb? |
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11:09 | <mohloven> | hiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
11:09 | <mohloven> | هااااااااااااااااااااى |
11:10 | <erKURITA> | ... |
11:10 | <mohloven> | hi |
11:10 | <mohloven> | .......... |
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11:20 | <pawel> | I have old computer, AVR ATmega32 evaluation board and STK200 programmer (LPT). I tried to program this board with UISP and AVRDUDE (with device /dev/parport0), but I always get the same error "Cannot open device /dev/parport0: No such file or directory". I executed "modprobe parport && modprobe parport_pc" but the same error appears. Photos and output of "ls /dev/ > ls_dev_with_parport.txt" are at http://pkkm.oxyhost.com/tosh/. Can someone hel |
11:20 | <pawel> | p me? |
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11:40 | <prosis> | Bonjour |
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11:40 | <prosis> | J'ai une question qui concerne les réseaux je peux la poser? |
11:40 | <adb> | !fr |
11:40 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
11:40 | <prosis> | Oh hi then |
11:41 | <TMcTrain> | hi |
11:41 | <adb> | hi, just ask |
11:41 | <prosis> | Thanks :) |
11:42 | <prosis> | Well I have to seperate network cards, one with an internal IP address through a router and one connected directly on the internet with a ISP given IP |
11:43 | <prosis> | The machine serves as a web server |
11:43 | <prosis> | So I need the external IP to be taken buy default to connect to the internet |
11:43 | <prosis> | But right now it uses the internal IP |
11:43 | <prosis> | Which results in the host being available from my LAN but not elsewhere |
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11:45 | <adb> | cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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11:46 | <adb> | prosis: ^^^ |
11:46 | <prosis> | Yes sorry |
11:47 | <prosis> | You want me to copy the result of this? |
11:47 | <adb> | paste result here |
11:47 | <prosis> | 1 |
11:47 | <prosis> | That's all I have |
11:47 | <adb> | so its ok |
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11:48 | <prosis> | Oh good then |
11:48 | <prosis> | So what can be the problem? |
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11:49 | <adb> | i'm not sure to understand where is the problem |
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11:50 | <weasel> | for t in nat mangle filter; do iptables -t $t -vnL; done |
11:50 | <weasel> | paste that output somewhere (not here) |
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11:51 | <adb> | sure , as root ;) |
11:51 | <prosis> | I get a syntax error near unexpected token 'do' |
11:52 | <adb> | do it all in one line |
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11:52 | <prosis> | I did :P |
11:54 | <prosis> | Ok I put it in a text file and ran it through Bash |
11:54 | <prosis> | I got a result |
11:54 | <prosis> | Then what? :P |
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11:55 | <ahmed> | hello , is there is any time organization programs in ubuntu ? |
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11:55 | <adb> | !tell prosis about paste |
11:55 | <weasel> | !ubuntu |
11:55 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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11:57 | <prosis> | http://paste.debian.net/30156/ |
11:58 | <weasel> | eth1 is the interface to the internet? |
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12:00 | <weasel> | and your filter and mangle tables are a mess. |
12:00 | <weasel> | and drop as a policy sucks |
12:00 | <prosis> | lol |
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12:00 | <prosis> | I know nothing about these things, if I configured them I didn't mean it lol |
12:00 | <prosis> | But yes the eth1 is the external address |
12:00 | <prosis> | That much I know |
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12:01 | <prosis> | what can I do to clean this up? |
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12:04 | <prosis> | Can I reset IPTables? |
12:04 | <prosis> | Oh iptables --flush |
12:04 | <prosis> | Should I do this? |
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12:06 | <adb> | its depends , maybe save it before for further reads |
12:07 | <prosis> | How can I save it, is it a file? |
12:08 | <adb> | for t in nat mangle filter; do iptables -t $t -vnL; done > iptabs |
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12:08 | <jelly> | prosis: "iptables-save" command dumps the complete current state of iptables to its standard output, redirect that to a file. |
12:08 | <jelly> | adb: ew. |
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12:08 | <adb> | err ... |
12:09 | <jelly> | prosis: use iptables-restore < thatfile to get back htat config |
12:09 | <prosis> | Oh cool, I'll try it (so it's possible that I get disconnected I think so sorry, I'll be back :P) |
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12:18 | <Glanzmann> | Hello; Can the Lenny Debian installer, resize NTFS? |
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12:19 | <davide> | !list |
12:19 | <dpkg> | one warez list being sent to davide |
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12:21 | <stew> | davide: why do you type "!list"? what are you hoping would happen? |
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12:23 | <zxd> | is there a clean way to list installed packages |
12:24 | <ansgar> | zxd: dpkg -l |
12:24 | <zxd> | ansgar, without all the other fields |
12:24 | <stew> | zxd: aptitude search -F%p '~i' |
12:24 | <stew> | dpkg -l will list packages which aren't installed |
12:24 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching will list packages which aren't installed |
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12:27 | <prosis> | Hello again? |
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12:28 | <prosis> | weasel, adb still there? |
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12:28 | <themill> | stew: it's definitely a .it thing.... I'd love to know the story behind it too ;) |
12:29 | <stew> | themill: incidentally, it doesn't seem to happen in #debian-it |
12:29 | <themill> | heh |
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12:29 | <stew> | i /joined there for a week to see |
12:31 | <prosis> | adb? |
12:31 | <fxiny> | amphi: DragPane is giving me hard time with screen , this one seems better : myLayoutHook = avoidStruts ( magicFocus (Mirror (Tall 1 (3/100) (1/2)) ||| Full)) |
12:32 | <fxiny> | amphi: Mirror Tall is Wide |
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12:33 | <fxiny> | amphi: the i found a way to shrink slaves panes only with the keyboard : ResizableTile |
12:33 | <espana> | Hello all ! |
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12:36 | <prosis> | If I have two network cards, one through a router that is connected to the internet and one directly connected to the internet, how can I tell the machine to use the direct connection and not the router connection? |
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12:37 | <fresita> | hola |
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12:39 | <lemonzest> | hola :) |
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12:48 | <fresita> | wuenas |
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12:49 | <mika_> | hi |
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12:50 | <valdyn> | prosis: route shows a default route or more than 1 default route, the first default route is where packets go |
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13:25 | <amphi> | fxiny: cool - I'll check 'em out; did you try Layouts.Accordion? ;) |
13:25 | <fxiny> | amphi: yes |
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13:25 | <fxiny> | amphi: and layout combinator |
13:25 | <amphi> | fxiny: I find I use tabbed or full mainly, and float for my jackery |
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13:26 | <amphi> | yeah, layout combinator looks interesting |
13:26 | <fxiny> | amphi: i need magic focus for emacs |
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13:27 | <fxiny> | amphi: two horizontal panes + magicFocus makes pasting in emacs a breeze |
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13:28 | <Belial> | wuhu! lenny! it works! |
13:29 | <fxiny> | it works++ |
13:29 | <Belial> | i am so glad :-) |
13:29 | <amphi> | fxiny: my poor xmobar is stuffed ;0 |
13:29 | <amphi> | er, ;) |
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13:29 | <fxiny> | amphi: why ? pulling wheater ? :) |
13:29 | <Belial> | yip |
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13:31 | <fxiny> | amphi: very handy : i managed to freeze a couple of times while wild setting xmonad.hs , xmobar displaying swap going 100% saves me :) |
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13:32 | <amphi> | fxiny: http://picpaste.com/pics/ss-2009-03-09-17_30.1236619920.png |
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13:34 | <fxiny> | amphi: i keep it on the bottom and i use nice shiny fonts : Config { font = "-xos4-terminus-bold-*-*-*-*-200-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15" |
13:34 | <petern> | hmm |
13:34 | <fxiny> | don't hmm at terminus fonts ! |
13:34 | <petern> | i really need to switch my system back to debian :o |
13:34 | <amphi> | fxiny: I keep it on the top, that's where dmenu comes also |
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13:35 | <fxiny> | amphi: i do : , position = Bottom |
13:35 | <fxiny> | dmenu on the top |
13:35 | <fxiny> | amphi: added , Run StdinReader ? |
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13:36 | <fxiny> | without it freezes |
13:36 | <amphi> | uhuh - I like dmenu to overlay xmobar, and both at the top |
13:36 | <fxiny> | ok , Ctrl b then |
13:36 | <amphi> | I have StdiReader |
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13:37 | <fxiny> | amphi: first day i didn't know . googled for key collisions .thought it was emacs or icewilly |
13:37 | <fxiny> | that's all i use : mrxvt emacs and icewilly |
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13:38 | <fxiny> | no damed icons , no clicks , no stress : i will die 120 years old :))) |
13:38 | <fxiny> | running debian 21 :))) |
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13:39 | <amphi> | fxiny: BTW, 8.1 is not far off testing it seems; do you reckon after installing, recompiling xmonad.hs & modm+q will load the new xmonad? |
13:39 | <amphi> | fxiny: heheh |
13:39 | <fxiny> | amphi: i use xmobar-0.9.tar.gz |
13:40 | <fxiny> | aahh you mean xmonad ? |
13:40 | <ml> | hello |
13:40 | <amphi> | fxiny: yes |
13:40 | <fxiny> | no idea , i stick to official lenny version |
13:40 | <ml> | i'm on xmonad |
13:40 | <ml> | :) |
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13:40 | <amphi> | fxiny: yeah, I use the same xmobar version |
13:40 | <amphi> | ml: isn't it _gorgeous_ ? ;) |
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13:41 | <ml> | yes :0 |
13:41 | <ml> | :) |
13:41 | <ml> | trying to get things going |
13:41 | <fxiny> | ml: good : i have something for you in my beggar bag , you asked for gnome yesterday , here you are : http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Gnome/0.5 |
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13:42 | <fxiny> | amphi: i failed to darcs patch it for load average |
13:42 | <ml> | thanks fxiny |
13:42 | <fxiny> | i hda to learn how to darc pathc :P |
13:42 | <fxiny> | had* |
13:42 | <fxiny> | ml: np |
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13:42 | * | ml not going to used it with gnome tho |
13:43 | <amphi> | fxiny: script? that's what I did here for battery and wifi link quality |
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13:43 | <fxiny> | amphi: yes ? lemme magnify it , what fonts are you using ? |
13:44 | <amphi> | deja vu sans mono 10 if I recall correctly |
13:44 | <fxiny> | amphi: i've sen it :) |
13:44 | <fxiny> | seen* |
13:45 | <ml> | i'm trying to configure xmobar with_xft, but I need to figure out how to X11-xft |
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13:45 | <fxiny> | amphi: battery is nice , xmobar beats any konq* things |
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13:45 | <fxiny> | amphi: is a pity is not debianized |
13:45 | <amphi> | fxiny: thank ghod for sysfs |
13:45 | <fxiny> | yes ! |
13:46 | <amphi> | I could fill xmobar with battery info alone ;) |
13:46 | <fxiny> | amphi: :) |
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13:47 | <fxiny> | amphi: i feel sorry for point and click desktops users , sooooo sorry :)) |
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13:47 | <fxiny> | last century technology :P |
13:47 | <amphi> | fxiny: poor enouf ;) |
13:47 | <fxiny> | amphi: where is he ? |
13:47 | <fxiny> | enouf: hey ! |
13:48 | <amphi> | his client is here... |
13:48 | <ml> | lol |
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13:48 | <fxiny> | ml: any major freeze while ghci compiling ? :) |
13:48 | <amphi> | fxiny: you're tracking testing, or just sitting down with lenny? |
13:49 | <fxiny> | be prepares for ssh commection and x combo killing |
13:49 | <ml> | at first but got help at #xmonad |
13:49 | <fxiny> | ml: you been there ? |
13:49 | <ml> | i'm trying to get xmobar going |
13:49 | <ml> | im'there :) |
13:49 | <fxiny> | amphi: lenny . i do not even thing testing |
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13:49 | <fxiny> | think* |
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13:50 | <fxiny> | ml: grab at will , then we share beggars bags :=) |
13:50 | <ml> | hehe |
13:51 | <fxiny> | amphi: you already squeezing ? |
13:51 | <amphi> | fxiny: aye |
13:51 | <ml> | I'm :) |
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13:51 | <fxiny> | amphi: no way , i like stable |
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13:53 | <magyar_> | hi, is lenny mysql install has by default three ANY accounts set? |
13:54 | <magyar_> | Any % -- USAGE |
13:54 | <magyar_> | Any localhost No USAGE |
13:54 | <magyar_> | Any turoserv.int.pssnet.com No USAGE |
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13:55 | <magyar_> | I never seen this on Etch install |
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13:59 | <ml> | fxiny: amphi: did u guys configure xmobar "with_xft" |
13:59 | <ml> | * you :P |
13:59 | <fxiny> | ml: nope , i'm planning to look into it |
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14:00 | <fxiny> | i want load average |
14:00 | <amphi> | ml: yes |
14:00 | <amphi> | I had to grab the haskell x11-xft stuff |
14:00 | <ml> | fxiny: it needs some dependancies |
14:00 | <ml> | amphi: yes |
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14:01 | <ml> | amphi: I built X11-xft, how do get xmobar to see it? |
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14:02 | <amphi> | ml: did you install it properly? ie. [sudo] ./Setup.lhs install |
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14:03 | <ml> | amphi: no wasn't sure what to do next |
14:03 | <ml> | so install it as root correct? |
14:03 | <amphi> | ml: ./Setup.lhs --help is quite, er... helpful ;) |
14:03 | <amphi> | right |
14:03 | <ml> | lol duh |
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14:05 | <amphi> | fxiny: BTW, I lied earlier ;) I'm using "-misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" |
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14:06 | <ml> | amphi: thanks got xmobar setup now to build |
14:06 | <fxiny> | amphi: too small for my half-blind right eye ;) |
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14:06 | <mekoz> | s |
14:06 | <fxiny> | amphi: i use terminus everywhere |
14:06 | <amphi> | fxiny: heh - remember I'm on a 1024x768 12" panel here |
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14:07 | <ml> | fxiny: terminus ftw :) |
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14:07 | <fxiny> | amphi: so try Mirror Tall :) |
14:07 | <fxiny> | ml: terminus++ :) |
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14:09 | <ml> | yay xmobar built and installed :D |
14:10 | <fxiny> | amphi: i got it by chance : i learned that Wide is the "Tall logical mirror" , could not let using it Wide instead of Tall so i tryed "Mirror()" . and it worked |
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14:10 | <fxiny> | that was after a major 100% swap freeze :P |
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14:14 | <fxiny> | amphi: but magicFocus (something-in-between) is dangerous :P |
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14:14 | <fxiny> | as soon as i finish my perfect-layout quest i'll do some haskell reading |
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14:15 | <adb> | or a howto xmonad for debian |
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14:15 | <fxiny> | luckily i have some free brain space avaiable , i never learned python :P |
14:16 | <ml> | fxiny: you will never get the perfect layout hehe |
14:16 | <fxiny> | adb: a quick tutorial ? |
14:17 | <adb> | ;) sure |
14:17 | <marcel> | valdyn, if you're there, fyi's my attempt to fix "out of range" with vga=ask didn't work. Just as before, I saw boot messages on the console but after X started, switching to vt1 results in "out of range" from my monitor. |
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14:17 | <valdyn> | marcel: i see |
14:17 | <marcel> | Anyone care to offer other ideas how to address "out of range" when switching back to console from X? |
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14:18 | <fxiny> | adb: browse back to xmonad home . after : http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Config_archive/John_Goerzen's_Configuration |
14:18 | <fxiny> | 10 minutes reading and you are on xmonad |
14:18 | <marcel> | valdyn, I tried both a basic mode and a fancier vesa mode. |
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14:19 | <marcel> | Also tried fbset with a few modes, running fbset from inside my X session and also "typing blind" on the out of range console... |
14:19 | <marcel> | not sure it matters where I run it from. |
14:19 | <valdyn> | marcel: nvidia is messing with this |
14:19 | <fxiny> | ml: how is it ? |
14:19 | <adb> | i saw this thx , he talks useing .xsesion to start , but xmonad use xinitrc |
14:19 | <valdyn> | marcel: have you looked at their support forum? |
14:19 | <marcel> | Also noticed the lenny upgrade gave me an openvz kernel, so I tried a plain one |
14:19 | <valdyn> | adb: xmonad use xinitrc? are you confused? |
14:19 | <marcel> | No, I'll check it out. Have only googled the greater net |
14:20 | <ml> | fxiny: it awesome :D |
14:20 | <valdyn> | nvnews.net |
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14:20 | <marcel> | Unfortunately the "nv" driver that comes with Xorg seems not to support my 1920x1200 LCD screen. |
14:20 | <ml> | fxiny: much better than openbox once it is setup and I get the hang of it :D |
14:21 | <valdyn> | marcel: yesterday someone was here with the opposite exerpience ( high res only with nv ) |
14:21 | <marcel> | heh. |
14:21 | <adb> | valdyn: yes |
14:21 | <valdyn> | adb: xmonad does not use xinitrc |
14:21 | <valdyn> | adb: xmonad docs might mention xinitrc, thats something entirely different |
14:21 | <ml> | fxiny: it read my .gtkrc-2.0 file perfectly |
14:22 | <adb> | hmm |
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14:22 | <ml> | adb you can use .xinitrc if you want |
14:23 | <adb> | To use xmonad as your window manager add: |
14:23 | <adb> | xmonad |
14:23 | <adb> | to your ~/.xinitrc file |
14:23 | <adb> | from man page |
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14:23 | <valdyn> | adb: thats .xsession for you, probably |
14:24 | <ml> | adb: just add to your .xintrc... /usr/bin/xmonad |
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14:26 | <adb> | its ok for me . but doc seems strange ... |
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14:26 | <ml> | adb: I went through the same thing this morning |
14:27 | <adb> | so we need a right howto ! |
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14:27 | <adb> | fxiny: ^^^ |
14:27 | <ml> | adb: well it's better than nothing |
14:29 | <adb> | no , its very un productive ... |
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14:35 | <fxiny> | !xsession |
14:35 | <dpkg> | from memory, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
14:35 | <fxiny> | adb: ^^^ |
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14:37 | <adb> | thx fxiny |
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14:38 | <fxiny> | adb: wanna p* your mates off ? try quingy ;) |
14:38 | <adb> | tried ... |
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14:40 | <Katt> | Hello. I'm having a strange problem here. I have a program here I want to run, but as a user I get the error "ptrace failed: Operation not permitted". |
14:40 | <Katt> | It works fine if I run as root though. |
14:41 | <Katt> | But it's supposed to be run as a user. |
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14:41 | <fast> | хай |
14:41 | <marcel> | Is the process you want to trace running as the same user as the one running strace? |
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14:42 | <Katt> | I don't want to trace any processes. |
14:42 | <Katt> | The software just gives me that error. |
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14:43 | <marcel> | What is the name or purpose of the software? |
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14:44 | <fxiny> | adb: already have one or more ? you mean : update-alternatives --config x-window-manager ? |
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14:44 | <Katt> | marcel: Stepmania, it's a ddr-simulator. |
14:45 | <Katt> | A game. |
14:45 | <adb> | fxiny: i just do a try of it , for tests |
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14:46 | <adb> | s/do/ done * |
14:46 | * | adb mangiare ... |
14:46 | <fxiny> | adb: is well worth looking ito it |
14:46 | <fxiny> | into* |
14:47 | * | fxiny fixes one eye with a flame-thrower |
14:47 | <marcel> | Katt, ptrace is used for debugging type stuff. Seems odd to me that a game would want to use it. I don't know what it's trying to do. |
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14:49 | <Katt> | Me neither. :/ |
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14:49 | <Katt> | Well, works as root. |
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14:51 | <Katt> | Whoa |
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14:52 | <Katt> | When I tried to do something in the game it gave me the same ptrace-error |
14:52 | <Katt> | While running it as root |
14:52 | <Katt> | This confuses me. |
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14:55 | <Katt> | Strange. After that ptrace-error, I get some keyboard-errors. |
14:55 | <Katt> | If I hold down a key it won't type multiple instances of that key. |
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14:55 | <Katt> | And the same applies for backspace. |
14:55 | <shell> | what are u on @ katt |
14:55 | <Katt> | Pressing and holding backspace just erases 1 letter |
14:55 | <Katt> | shell: Debian testing |
14:56 | <shell> | ok |
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14:56 | <Katt> | Seems related to the x-session, restarting the x-session fixes the problem. |
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14:57 | <shell> | Im a spaz to debain |
14:57 | <lemonzest> | spaz = offensive |
14:58 | <shell> | hmm.. |
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14:58 | <shell> | what are u on @ lemonzest |
14:58 | <And1> | How do I copy folder1/$content and folder2/$content to folder3/$content_and_other_files, so that only files are replaced, which exist in folder1 and folder2? (Like extacting a zip with $content in folder3...) |
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14:59 | * | fxiny takes one aspirine per folder , and a full paracetamol box just in case |
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15:00 | * | marcel guesses cp folder1/$content folder2/$content folder3/ |
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15:00 | <fxiny> | And1: man rsync |
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15:04 | <And1> | marcel: Hmm, ok, that works. Last time I tried it this way, I thought it failed. |
15:04 | <And1> | Thanks. |
15:04 | <petern> | aahhh, fresh lenny install :D |
15:05 | <dkr> | oh, i thought ou were trying to copy files if and only if they exists in *both* folder1 and foler2 |
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15:06 | <dkr> | so I came up with diff -qrs folder1 folder2 | grep identical to get the list of files that are in both :) |
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15:06 | <fxiny> | petern: feeling relaxed ? :) |
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15:07 | <urbinek> | hi |
15:07 | <petern> | fxiny, yes... and it was so easy to install :D |
15:07 | <urbinek> | can somebody help me to set up my tvcard |
15:07 | <urbinek> | ? |
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15:08 | <petern> | mind you i remember installing woody on an alpha... that wasn't fun |
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15:09 | <fxiny> | that's nice , i have good woody memories |
15:09 | <urbinek> | i can see Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt879(??) Video Capture (rev 11) via lspci byt ther is o /dev/video0 |
15:09 | <urbinek> | |
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15:15 | <oigres> | Is there a simple command to record directly mp3 or mp2's ??? I can use `rec something.wav` but I get instantly a large wav file. Tx! |
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15:15 | <dzusiq> | witam |
15:15 | <urbinek> | siemka |
15:15 | <ml> | fxiny: xmobar is not behaving |
15:15 | <dzusiq> | potrzebuje pomocy przy instalacji karty wifi intel 2200bg |
15:16 | <urbinek> | tutaj sie gada po agielsku :P |
15:16 | <dzusiq> | ok |
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15:16 | <dzusiq> | i'm looking for help with wi-fi configuration |
15:17 | <fxiny> | ml: what's wrong with it ? |
15:17 | <dzusiq> | i've intel 2200bg wireless adapter |
15:18 | <dzusiq> | as I have instaled fedora 10 i have no problems with this |
15:18 | <ml> | fxiny: wheneverI change a window it goes away and just says updating in the top left corner |
15:19 | <ml> | fxiny: sometimes it's just grayed out |
15:19 | <dzusiq> | but one of my friends told me to install debian 'cause it's easier for me |
15:19 | <amphi> | dzusiq: you have the fw installed in /lib/firmware? |
15:19 | <fxiny> | ml: is your xmonad.hs |
15:19 | <fxiny> | not xmobar |
15:19 | <amphi> | !tell dzusiq -about ipw2200 |
15:19 | <dzusiq> | I use netinst to install debian |
15:20 | <dzusiq> | I don't know, I'm new |
15:20 | <ml> | fxiny: ok |
15:21 | <dzusiq> | I used to use widows xp |
15:21 | <amphi> | we all have our crosses to bear |
15:21 | <fxiny> | ml: look at the Goerzen config |
15:21 | <dzusiq> | how I can check it |
15:21 | <amphi> | dzusiq: did you read what dpkg told you? |
15:21 | <ml> | fxiny: that is what I'm using |
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15:22 | <pwork> | Hi :) |
15:22 | <ml> | fxiny: I see my error now |
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15:22 | <ml> | fxiny: thanks |
15:24 | <fxiny> | ml: ok :) |
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15:25 | <pwork> | ml : I installed a Lenny 32 bits chroot environment on a Lenny 64 bits system following your advice ;) But there are many information I miss : how to share '/home' among system and chrooted environment (my /home is in a LVM container), is that dangerous, how can I log on as a normal user (not root) in the chrooted environment. In fact, I don't know what is shared or not between the system and the chrooted environment. |
15:25 | <dzusiq> | I'll try solution at wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 |
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15:26 | <ml> | pwork: it was not me that helped ya |
15:26 | <pwork> | ml, lol ok |
15:27 | <ml> | hehe np |
15:28 | <pwork> | If one edit a text file in the host system, and simultaneously edit it in a chrooted environment, what will happen ? I fear these things with chroot |
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15:29 | <pwork> | ml : I was thinking of themill when writing to you :) |
15:30 | <ml> | :) |
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15:31 | <simonrvn> | uh oh |
15:31 | * | fxiny swiftly glues themill shadow to the floor |
15:31 | <pwork> | lol, it's not a love affair, it's just my bad english, come back ! |
15:31 | <themill> | hehe |
15:32 | <pwork> | :) I installed a Lenny 32b chrooted environment following your advice |
15:33 | <pwork> | But I miss some pieces of information : [spam] how to share '/home' among system and chrooted environment (my /home is in a LVM container), is that dangerous, how can I log on as a normal user (not root) in the chrooted environment. In fact, I don't know what is shared or not between the system and the chrooted environment.[/spam] |
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15:33 | <themill> | you probably want a bind mount. Look at the schroot package for that |
15:33 | <ml> | fxiny: got xmobar working but the bottom of the terms are messed up, showing twice |
15:34 | <themill> | dpkg: tell pwork about schroot |
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15:34 | <pwork> | dpkg: yes, tell me |
15:34 | <dpkg> | pwork: wish i knew |
15:34 | <pwork> | :) |
15:34 | <ml> | heh |
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15:35 | <fxiny> | ml: check your ~/.xmobarrc |
15:35 | <pwork> | themill : More generally, I wonder what will happen if I edit a file from host and chrooted-env at the same time |
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15:36 | <ml> | fxiny: im there what I'm I missing? |
15:36 | <themill> | pwork: if you're using a bind mount, exactly the same as if you edited it twice on the same machine -- it depends on the editor, but probably the last to hit "save" wins. |
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15:36 | <fxiny> | ml: is it a custom rc ? |
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15:37 | <pwork> | themill : Good to know that the slowest will win in the end : the turtle and the rabbit race heh |
15:37 | <ml> | no from John just changed TopW L 90 to Top and weather code |
15:38 | <ml> | fxiny: no from John just changed TopW L 90 to Top and weather code |
15:38 | <amphi> | ml: just running xmobar in a shell show no errors in the config? |
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15:39 | <ml> | amphi: let me try that |
15:39 | <amphi> | it doesn't tell you what the error is, if there is one, but it will whine |
15:40 | <fxiny> | ml: this is mine : http://paste.debian.net/30174/ |
15:40 | <fxiny> | i just removed some stuff |
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15:41 | <pwork> | themill : schroot will force me to redo a new debootstrap and so on, I'll stick with standard chroot |
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15:42 | <pwork> | themill : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 |
15:42 | <amphi> | ml: and mine FWIW: http://pastebin.ca/1356735 |
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15:43 | <fxiny> | amphi: grabbing it .... |
15:43 | <amphi> | heh |
15:43 | <themill> | pwork: you should be able to use schroot with a chroot you've already built. |
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15:43 | <ml> | fxiny: amphi: thanks working on it will report back :) |
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15:46 | <benoid> | i am working on a proxy that bans all https pages by content (whenever it matches "cherry" or "bimbo" the page should be blocked and a "meal time later" message must be displayed instead), so i need to add another proxy, for mitming up my https, what mitm proxy can i use? |
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15:49 | <ml> | fxiny: your xmobar: .xmobarrc: configuration file contains errors! |
15:50 | <amphi> | heheh |
15:50 | <fxiny> | can't be , it runs fine , what xmobar version are you using ? |
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15:50 | <fxiny> | ml: anyway : just tell me :) |
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15:51 | <ml> | fxiny: 0.9.1 |
15:51 | <amphi> | ml: mine contains unused crap, you'll notice |
15:51 | <amphi> | the curse of cruft |
15:51 | <fxiny> | 0.9.1 ? |
15:51 | <adama> | ok why are there 5 DVDs for lenny i386 |
15:52 | <ml> | fxiny: http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/xmobar |
15:52 | <dkr> | benoid: did you find one with those features? squid? seems hard to do without triggering browser warnings about mitm attacks |
15:52 | <ml> | ima try yours amphi |
15:52 | <benoid> | dkr: squid doesn't support mitm by itself |
15:52 | <amphi> | 0.9 here |
15:53 | <fxiny> | same 0.9 here |
15:53 | <amphi> | ml: the ones that call scripts won't work, obviously |
15:53 | <dkr> | benoid: are you doing it with a browser configured proxy or trying to do it transparently? |
15:53 | <amphi> | ml: ie. xmbatt and xmlink |
15:54 | <fxiny> | lemme double check my pastebin |
15:54 | <benoid> | dkr: proxied browser |
15:56 | <ml> | amphi: xmobar: .xmobarrc: configuration file contains errors! |
15:56 | <amphi> | ml: hahaha |
15:56 | <ml> | amphi: fxiny: must be the version i'm using? |
15:56 | <amphi> | did you read the README? |
15:56 | <ml> | amphi: I removed your script lines |
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15:57 | <amphi> | perhaps there's some syntax change |
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15:58 | <amphi> | I changed the sepChar because I wanted to be able to have '%' in the output, but that's done in the scripts now |
15:58 | <amphi> | '%' seems a bad default choice though, IMHO - a status bar is likely to want this char |
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15:59 | <fxiny> | ml: i donwloaded your version , there is a xmobar.config-sample , is it working ? |
15:59 | <amphi> | fxiny: any changes of note? |
15:59 | <fxiny> | amphi: can't see a changelog |
15:59 | <fxiny> | strange |
16:00 | <fxiny> | amphi: found it |
16:00 | <amphi> | maybe some new plugin[s]? |
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16:01 | <dutchy> | adama: the reason that Lenny is 5 DVD's is because the DVD's contain ALL of the repository. Most people don't need more than the first one or two, the higher numbers have usually obsqure programs |
16:01 | <dutchy> | (packages) |
16:01 | <fxiny> | amphi: no . there is no changelog |
16:01 | <fxiny> | super strange |
16:02 | <fxiny> | amphi: i see a ChangeLog in 0.9 but not in 0.9.1 |
16:02 | <ml> | sorry fxiny amphi in my rush toget it working didn;t notice the documentation |
16:03 | <ml> | fxiny: the example works, still same term proble |
16:03 | <fxiny> | amphi: main.sh is the same |
16:03 | <fxiny> | no diff |
16:03 | <fxiny> | main.hs |
16:03 | <ml> | *problem |
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16:04 | <amphi> | ml: heh |
16:04 | <amphi> | again ;) |
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16:10 | <fxiny> | ml: want a working conf to try ? |
16:10 | <fxiny> | wanna start for the roof ? ;) |
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16:10 | <fxiny> | a hut roof :P |
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16:11 | <fxiny> | you'd better not : i think you gonna loose half of the fun ;) |
16:11 | <amphi> | fxiny: some syntax change? |
16:12 | <fxiny> | amphi: i put the 0.9.1 where i have the darcs patches for when i will try afain adding loadaverage plugin patch |
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16:12 | <fxiny> | afain sucks ;P |
16:12 | <amphi> | fxiny: why noy just use a script? |
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16:13 | <amphi> | or just Run Com ? |
16:13 | <fxiny> | amphi: because i'm looking for my perfect layout first , then i will start again |
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16:13 | <fxiny> | i think i've checked more then 20 layouts so far |
16:13 | <amphi> | heh |
16:14 | <amphi> | what resolution have you there? |
16:14 | <fxiny> | somehing a ponit-and-click-desktop user can onbly dream of :P |
16:14 | <ml> | fxiny: here is a screenshot of waht I mean... http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200903091603411920x1200.png |
16:14 | <fxiny> | amphi: low , old hardware |
16:16 | <fxiny> | ml: try this magicfocus and something layout : http://paste.debian.net/30180/ |
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16:16 | <fxiny> | ml: so you know where the problem is |
16:16 | <amphi> | ml: what an intolerable irssi theme ;) |
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16:16 | <ml> | fxiny: ok |
16:16 | <amphi> | ml: do you want mine? |
16:16 | <goodtime> | i freakin have to do that |
16:16 | <ml> | amphi: why is that? heh |
16:16 | <goodtime> | how did you do tha |
16:16 | <goodtime> | t |
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16:17 | <goodtime> | amphi: that wicked nice |
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16:17 | <amphi> | goodtime: what? |
16:17 | <ml> | amphi: sure |
16:17 | <goodtime> | so thoes are diff channels split up right |
16:17 | <fxiny> | amphi: where is it ? i can't see anything |
16:18 | <goodtime> | the screen shot amphi |
16:18 | <goodtime> | awww man seeing all the differnt channels at one looks cool |
16:19 | <goodtime> | once* |
16:19 | <fxiny> | ahhhh javacrap blocking |
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16:19 | <amphi> | ml: http://pastebin.ca/1356764 - save it as ~/irssi/amphi.theme and in irssi, do '/set theme amphi' |
16:19 | <nicholas__> | anyone knows how to perform variable substitution in .conffiles when generating a .deb package ? |
16:19 | <amphi> | goodtime: what screenshot? I'm confused ;) |
16:20 | <amphi> | ml: I certainly find it easier on the eyes ;) |
16:20 | <goodtime> | http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200903091603411920x1200.png |
16:20 | <ml> | amphi: thanks |
16:20 | <fxiny> | amphi: yes , you are right ! |
16:20 | <fxiny> | ml: what a theme ! |
16:20 | <ml> | goodtime: that was me |
16:20 | <amphi> | fxiny: heheh |
16:20 | <goodtime> | oic heh |
16:20 | <ml> | you don't like either hehe |
16:20 | <klando> | amphi, is your irssi theme suitable with screen ? |
16:20 | <goodtime> | well thats freakin sweet |
16:21 | <amphi> | ml: the advanced window list script is handy for irssi IMHO |
16:21 | <fxiny> | ml: take it to the komodo island : lizards like green themes :P |
16:21 | <fxiny> | amphi: ;) |
16:21 | <amphi> | klando: works fine here in screen |
16:21 | <stuckey> | Can anyone here recommend a good program for typing notes? I just need something which has a spell check function... |
16:21 | <ml> | fxiny: lmao |
16:21 | <amphi> | komodo, heh |
16:21 | <ml> | ok let me try all this brb |
16:22 | <amphi> | ml: nickcolor.pl FTW also |
16:22 | <fxiny> | ml: ghci that conf but : mind the magicfocus power :) |
16:22 | <ml> | fxiny: i'm on it |
16:23 | <amphi> | with mouse-follows-focus ! ;) |
16:23 | <ml> | amphi: will try it out once I figure this out thanks |
16:23 | <fxiny> | so , is xmobar working now ? |
16:23 | <ml> | fxiny: one sec |
16:23 | <amphi> | heh, you are kept busy |
16:23 | <fxiny> | amphi: and with goto/bring menu ;) |
16:24 | <amphi> | fxiny: it needs to take a leaf from the book of INTERCAL, and have comeFrom ;) |
16:24 | <klando> | amphi, nice, tks |
16:24 | <amphi> | klando: welcome |
16:24 | <fxiny> | stuckey: org-mode |
16:24 | <fxiny> | amphi: hehehe |
16:24 | * | klando had never change the theme before :) |
16:24 | <fxiny> | stuckey: spell ? no idea |
16:25 | <amphi> | klando: channels are yellow if anyone speaks, and red if you are highlighted |
16:25 | <stuckey> | fxiny: Thanks I'll try org-mode |
16:25 | <ml> | fxiny: yes that went fine with import XMonad.Layout.MagicFocus |
16:25 | <ml> | fxiny: what does it do? |
16:25 | <fxiny> | stuckey: it rocks , google for docs |
16:25 | <stuckey> | Does anyone know if there's support for German in openoffice.org-writer? I mean, in terms of the spellchecker/dictionary... |
16:26 | <klando> | rahh good :-) (most of the time I use konversation or xchat over irssi but when I fallback to myscreen it will be very good to have that |
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16:26 | <Makube-X> | hi everybody |
16:26 | * | ml loves xmonad, just nneds to get it confured heh |
16:26 | <stuckey> | fxiny: I prefer programs that run on my computer. |
16:26 | <fxiny> | ml: cycle and look what happen when you focus a pane |
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16:26 | <Prosis> | Hello |
16:26 | <ml> | fxiny: ok |
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16:27 | <Prosis> | I installed Firestarter and my internet stopped working...uninstalled it but it's still not working...and I've flushed my iptables |
16:27 | <Prosis> | Does anyone know what to do? |
16:28 | <fxiny> | stuckey: if emacs won't run on it you are running a vauxall :P |
16:28 | <amphi> | ml: you can spend an arbitrary amount of time playing with your xmonad config, as far as I can see ;) |
16:28 | <fxiny> | ml: exaclty , now you know it can be done :) |
16:29 | <ml> | amphi: heh |
16:29 | <stuckey> | fxiny: this is a mode for emacs, right? How do I use a mode for emacs? |
16:29 | <Makube-X> | someone knows why does aptitude not have super cow powers??? |
16:29 | <ml> | fxiny: I don't notice anything special |
16:29 | <amphi> | ml: I've barely scratched the surface yet IMHO |
16:29 | <weasel> | Makube-X: because apt has them |
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16:29 | <Makube-X> | and apt does?? |
16:29 | <Makube-X> | what is the diference??? |
16:29 | <weasel> | Makube-X: apt-get moo |
16:30 | <fxiny> | stuckey: org-mode comes with excellent docs . there is a google vid as well |
16:30 | <Makube-X> | why can i aptitude moo ? :( |
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16:31 | <fxiny> | ml: nothing special ? check again with mod j or move the mouse from one pane to the other |
16:31 | <ml> | fxiny: I did |
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16:32 | <fxiny> | does is switch ? |
16:32 | <ml> | mod j and k mouse even |
16:32 | <ml> | fxiny: yes |
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16:32 | <fxiny> | that's it ! |
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16:32 | <fxiny> | is a great feature |
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16:32 | <ml> | fxiny: it did tha before |
16:32 | <ml> | *that |
16:32 | <fxiny> | no way |
16:33 | <fxiny> | ml: you'll get it later , no worries |
16:33 | <ml> | what do you mean by switch then |
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16:34 | <fxiny> | ml: two horizontal panes : icewilly oin the top , emacs on the bottom . right ? now move the focus and watch |
16:34 | <goodtime> | so this is just tweeking the format of a terminal |
16:34 | <goodtime> | i like the idea |
16:35 | <fxiny> | ml: make them panes some 3 to 1 |
16:35 | <goodtime> | ty ml |
16:35 | <ml> | fxiny: isn't that done with mod+space? |
16:35 | <Makube-X> | how can i get sources from aptitude?? |
16:35 | <pwork> | themill : Thanks for schroot :) It works fine now. But I can't understand this : it automounted the host /home, but not the /root . Here is some of the host /etc/fstab lines : |
16:35 | <pwork> | themill : /dev/mapper/user-home /home ext3 defaults 0 2 |
16:35 | <ml> | goodtime: np thank fxiny and amphi |
16:36 | <fxiny> | nope , this is different , try to type in emacs |
16:36 | <goodtime> | hey thank you all your the best |
16:36 | <pwork> | themill : and I added some stuff for the chrooted env : proc-debian.i386.lenny /chroot/debian.i386.lenny/proc proc defaults 0 0 |
16:36 | <goodtime> | :) |
16:36 | <fxiny> | when is on the bottom :P |
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16:36 | <Makube-X> | weasel, how can i get sources from aptitude?? |
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16:37 | <fxiny> | amphi: magicfocus is the eel effetc :P |
16:37 | <weasel> | Makube-X: generally, or those of aptitude? |
16:37 | <Makube-X> | weasel, something like apt-get source my_pack |
16:37 | <amphi> | heh |
16:37 | <weasel> | Makube-X: use apt-get. |
16:38 | <pwork> | themill : In /etc/schroot/schroot.conf, I added : run-setup-scripts=true and run-exec-scripts=true |
16:38 | <ml> | fxiny: I'll get eventually still don't understand tho |
16:38 | <Makube-X> | it dont causes problems between apt n aptitude??? |
16:39 | <fxiny> | ml: because yoiu havn't played yet , save that hs . make your own and see the normal behaviour |
16:39 | <pwork> | Makube-X, in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you can add 'deb someurl somestuff' for binaries repositories, and 'deb-src someurl somestuff' for sources repositories |
16:40 | <ml> | fxiny: here is a current screenshot http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200903091638281920x1200.png |
16:40 | <Makube-X> | tnks pwork |
16:40 | <Makube-X> | tnks weasel |
16:40 | <pwork> | tnks you |
16:41 | <ml> | fxiny: are the bottom of the terms suppose to be like that, with a space at the bottom? |
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16:42 | <Hirschkuh> | hi |
16:42 | <deed02392> | Hi all, I need vmware server on my debian 4.0 etch linux server. trouble is it requires kernel modules, not installed by default from my service provider for my dedicated server (ovh). so i got the kernel off my datacenter, along with their config, changed the config file to use kernel modules and then that's as far as i've got. the next step is to compile it with make but i want to be sure on how to compile the kernel properly without a hitch. under compile kerne |
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16:42 | <Hirschkuh> | pidgin tells me i need to update the client, is there a prebuild debian package or do i have to compile it from source? |
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16:42 | <Prosis> | Does anyone know how to get rid of my Firestarter problem? |
16:43 | <Hirschkuh> | Prosis, what is your problem? |
16:43 | <pwork> | Hirschkuh : apt-get update pidgin, or apt-get install pidgin if you never installed it from debian repositories |
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16:43 | <Prosis> | I installed Firestarter and my internet stopped working...uninstalled it but it's still not working...and I've flushed my iptables |
16:44 | <Hirschkuh> | i installed it from the repos, but since today it says the client is too old |
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16:44 | <Hirschkuh> | i need to update |
16:44 | <Prosis> | I can't use the internet nor can I install any new package |
16:44 | <Hirschkuh> | but since ive installed it off the repos 3 days ago, i dont think itll worl |
16:44 | <pwork> | Hirschkuh, yes, hope it will do the job :) |
16:44 | <fxiny> | ml: start again the xmonad tour . learn the basic commands |
16:44 | <Hirschkuh> | ah ok |
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16:44 | <Prosis> | But I can ping |
16:44 | <Hirschkuh> | stop firestarter? |
16:44 | <Prosis> | So I'm connected to the network |
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16:44 | <Prosis> | Well I removed it |
16:45 | <Hirschkuh> | yes |
16:45 | <pwork> | Hirschkuh, strange indeed. I daily use it, and didn't updated it recently |
16:45 | <Hirschkuh> | but the iptables are still written |
16:45 | <Prosis> | But I flushed them |
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16:45 | <Hirschkuh> | hmmmm |
16:45 | <Hirschkuh> | strange |
16:45 | <Prosis> | It is |
16:45 | <Prosis> | :S |
16:45 | <BaDaSs> | <3 lenny |
16:45 | <fxiny> | ml: take the magicfocus off , use a basic layout , comment out the addictional keyes |
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16:45 | <Prosis> | I tried another thing that I found, but unsuccessfully |
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16:46 | <Hirschkuh> | how can i say apt-get i wanna update? |
16:46 | <Hirschkuh> | he just says pidgin is already installed |
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16:46 | <deed02392> | remove it with apt, download the source from pidgin and compile it |
16:46 | <Hirschkuh> | sure that firestarter is the problem? |
16:47 | <goodtime> | man i got to figure this out |
16:47 | <Makube-X> | apt-get source -b pidgin |
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16:47 | <BaDaSs> | lolz |
16:47 | <Makube-X> | it make you a pidgin.deb |
16:47 | <Hirschkuh> | Makube-X, will this get the newest version? |
16:47 | <ml> | fxiny: will do |
16:48 | <Makube-X> | ummm nop... |
16:48 | <Hirschkuh> | ^^ |
16:48 | <Hirschkuh> | i need a newer one :P |
16:48 | <Makube-X> | you hav stable or testing |
16:48 | <Hirschkuh> | since 2.4.3 wont let me connect to ICQ |
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16:48 | <Hirschkuh> | it tells me i need a newer version |
16:48 | <deed02392> | can anyone here help with my kernel issue =[ |
16:49 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 411] by debhelper |
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16:49 | <pwork> | When chrooting, can someone explain why the host /home is mounted with schroot command, and not with the simple chroot command ? No /etc/fstab edit happens meantime. |
16:49 | <BaDaSs> | Poll [Yes/No]: KDM > GDM? |
16:50 | <deed02392> | no |
16:50 | <Hirschkuh> | no |
16:50 | <pwork> | no : XDM > * |
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16:51 | <deed02392> | syntax error near xdm |
16:51 | <pwork> | :) |
16:51 | <deed02392> | lo |
16:51 | <deed02392> | l |
16:51 | <deed02392> | please can someone help me with reconfiguring my kernel |
16:51 | <deed02392> | i'm desperate |
16:52 | <pwork> | deed02392, I have no deep knowledge of linux :) step by step learning, sorry |
16:52 | <snoopi> | ? |
16:52 | <pwork> | deed02392, If you detail your issue, it will be easier for people to help |
16:52 | <Hirschkuh> | okay |
16:52 | <snoopi> | hou are you? |
16:52 | <deed02392> | i already did at 20:42 |
16:52 | <snoopi> | :)) |
16:52 | <Hirschkuh> | got pidgin 2.5.5 working |
16:52 | <deed02392> | it's been 10 minutes, i'll resend |
16:52 | <deed02392> | Hi all, I need vmware server on my debian 4.0 etch linux server. trouble is it requires kernel modules, not installed by default from my service provider for my dedicated server (ovh). so i got the kernel off my datacenter, along with their config, changed the config file to use kernel modules and then that's as far as i've got. the next step is to compile it with make but i want to be sure on how to compile the kernel properly without a hitch. under compile kerne |
16:52 | <amphi> | !tell deed02392 -about kernel-package |
16:52 | <pwork> | Hirschkuh, good point ;) |
16:53 | <Makube-X> | Hirschkuh, you can install a backport |
16:53 | <Hirschkuh> | compiled it now ^^ |
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16:53 | <Makube-X> | ok good |
16:53 | <Makube-X> | :D |
16:53 | <Hirschkuh> | since build-dep is my friend xD |
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16:55 | <k6> | Hi, how can I show the ssh fingerprint of my computer? |
16:55 | <[^OsAma^]> | :S |
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16:56 | <viktor> | irc://irc.freenode.net/processing |
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16:58 | <Hirschkuh> | is there something like "yakuake" for gnome? |
16:58 | <pwork> | See you :) |
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16:58 | <amphi> | ml: better in here, perhaps |
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16:59 | <amphi> | ml: 'ls ~/.irssi/amphi.theme' shows the file? |
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16:59 | <dzusiq> | hi |
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17:00 | <dzusiq> | still I need help about intel wireless 2200bg |
17:00 | <ml> | lol |
17:01 | <amphi> | löl? |
17:01 | <ml> | amphi: glad you noticed |
17:01 | <dzusiq> | I've instaled ipw2x00 |
17:01 | <ml> | lmao |
17:01 | <amphi> | eh? |
17:01 | <ml> | amphi: yes it does |
17:01 | <amphi> | dzusiq: and the firmware? |
17:01 | <dkr> | Hirschkuh: guake |
17:01 | <ml> | michel@I531 ~ $ ls .irssi/ |
17:02 | <ml> | amphi.theme config default.theme scripts urlgrab-log |
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17:02 | <stuckey> | Does anyone know how I can get german spell-checking support in openoffice? |
17:02 | <dzusiq> | amphi: yes |
17:02 | <dkr> | Hirschkuh: (which I discovered by looking up yakuake, ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuake |
17:02 | <anto> | #debconf-team |
17:02 | <amphi> | dzusiq: so what's the problem? |
17:02 | <anto> | join #debconf-team |
17:02 | <Hirschkuh> | thanks |
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17:04 | <ml> | amphi: did a /reload still the same |
17:04 | <dzusiq> | amphi: it's doesn't works |
17:04 | * | amphi sighs |
17:04 | <amphi> | ml: I'm at a loss |
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17:05 | <ml> | amphi: it's wierd because it comes up when I tab to complete |
17:05 | <amphi> | is the file corrupt? |
17:06 | <amphi> | you did save the file from the 'raw' link? ;) |
17:06 | <ml> | yes |
17:06 | <amphi> | did you check it for garbage? |
17:06 | <dzusiq> | I tried the way at wiki.debian.org, I saw for a while a wifi connection, besides it doesn't wont to connect with my wireless network |
17:06 | <ml> | nope heh ima do it now ;) |
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17:07 | <amphi> | ml: dunno; klando had it work ok |
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17:08 | <amphi> | dzusiq: I have to go and do this and that amongst the pots and pans now, but if you're still having problems, I'll try to help when I return |
17:08 | <amphi> | bugger, that fxiny slipped away? |
17:08 | <dzusiq> | ok |
17:08 | <amphi> | dzusiq: ipw2200 worked pretty well for me |
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17:08 | <dzusiq> | it work nice on fedora |
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17:09 | <dzusiq> | and I don't know why it don't wont works on debian disto |
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17:12 | <ml> | amphi: http://paste.debian.net/30182/ |
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17:22 | <styx-tdo> | hi, i loeft a process running from another computer via SSH and want to regain control - any idea? |
17:24 | <amphi> | ml: I believed you ;) |
17:24 | <ml> | amphi: just want to show :) |
17:24 | <ml> | *wanted |
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17:25 | <ml> | I tried /reload maybe a complete restart? |
17:25 | <amphi> | ml: and it's in the $HOME of the user running irssi? ;) |
17:25 | <ml> | yes that me :) |
17:26 | <ml> | brb ima try a fresh start |
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17:27 | <styx-tdo> | say, how can a package be only avail in i386 and not in amd64?! |
17:28 | <ml> | amphi: that did it :) |
17:28 | <ml> | test |
17:28 | <stew> | styx-tdo: there are multiple possible reasons. can you give us an eample? |
17:28 | <stew> | example* |
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17:28 | <ml> | oh yes much better :) |
17:28 | <amphi> | ah - odd, I didn't need to restart irssi - I checked with a test theme |
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17:28 | <styx-tdo> | stew: retty |
17:28 | <styx-tdo> | in sid |
17:28 | <ml> | amphi: thanks |
17:28 | <ml> | :) |
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17:29 | <amphi> | you're welcome - a bit less 'komodo', heh |
17:29 | <ml> | amphi: ima go hunt down those scripts you recomended |
17:29 | <ml> | brb |
17:29 | <amphi> | ml: install irssi-scripts |
17:29 | <ml> | oh I cal see my text much better |
17:30 | <ml> | I have it installed |
17:30 | <ml> | brb |
17:30 | <stew> | styx-tdo: aparantly that package is not arch independent. the source code must be written in a very i386 dependent way |
17:30 | <amphi> | nickcolor.pl is in there,as is trackbar.pl |
17:30 | <stew> | styx-tdo: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/retty/retty_1.0-2.dsc says "Architecture: i386" instead of "Architecture: any" |
17:31 | <tcsetattr> | retty injects some hand-written assembly-code into the target process and then forces the target to execute it, all through ptrace. it's very evil. use screen. |
17:31 | <amphi> | ml: trackbar.pl is very handy - when you switch away from a channel and back again, it draws a line where you've already seen |
17:31 | <styx-tdo> | stew: yes, i noticed.. i was under the impression that this is very uncommon for .deb packages.. |
17:32 | <stew> | styx-tdo: indeed |
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17:32 | <styx-tdo> | oh yes.. |
17:32 | <styx-tdo> | x86 CPU only, or amd64 CPU running in 32bit mode. |
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17:34 | <tcsetattr> | it's possible it could work on amd64 if the target process is a 32-bit process. if the target is 64-bit, no way. |
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17:35 | <styx-tdo> | yes.. started repair_xfs.. *ough* |
17:35 | <styx-tdo> | probably it will run till tomorrow morning, anywa |
17:35 | <styx-tdo> | +y |
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17:38 | <ml> | amphi: I will do all that after I fix my car window, just noticed that it broke |
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17:38 | <ml> | amphi: thanks for your help |
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17:39 | <amphi> | welcome |
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17:48 | <LL00> | hum after installation how I can disable acpi? I wrote in menu.1st acpi=no, but I still see the apcid deamon running :( |
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17:51 | <Steven_M> | hi all |
17:51 | <batistet> | which application can i download for .rar files? |
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17:51 | <dzusiq> | amphi: can you still help me |
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17:53 | <Pitxyoki> | batistet, unrar. |
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17:53 | <batistet> | unrar ok thanks a lot |
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17:53 | <Pitxyoki> | If you use file-roller, if you install unrar it will handle .rar files without probs. |
17:53 | <batistet> | thanks a lot |
17:54 | <amphi> | dzusiq: what's the problem? ipw2209 worked well for me on debian |
17:54 | <amphi> | er, ipw2200 |
17:55 | <Steven_M> | have any of you had trouble getting audio with flash using iceweasl's default flash plugin? |
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17:56 | <dzusiq> | amphi: tell me, I run at su mode the gnome-nettool, and when I'm trying to configure anyone of net interfaces it tells me that there is no such interface |
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17:57 | <dzusiq> | besides I've something like avahi-deamon, what that? |
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17:58 | <amphi> | dzusiq: I don't know anything about such gui tools I'm afraid |
17:59 | <amphi> | dzusiq: does ifconfig -a show the interface? |
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18:00 | <dzusiq> | amphi: yes |
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18:00 | <pwork> | I have some permission problems and can't have a xdm fine run with .xsession : |
18:00 | <pwork> | Xsession: X session started for pavondes at Mon Feb 23 03:45:08 CET 2009 |
18:00 | <pwork> | open: Permission denied |
18:00 | <pwork> | Xsession: X session started for user at Mon Feb 23 03:48:39 CET 2009 |
18:00 | <pwork> | IceWM: using /home/user/.icewm for private configuration files |
18:00 | -!- | pwork was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
18:00 | <amphi> | dzusiq: can you configure it with iwconfig? |
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18:02 | <pwork> | I placed errors in #flood |
18:02 | <Hirschkuh> | is it easy to updte lenny to gnome 2.24 or 2.6? |
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18:03 | <pwork> | As soon as I do a 'ln -s ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession' and restart xdm, X server returns to login page just after I validate log in |
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18:03 | <pwork> | It only contains 'xset b off' |
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18:04 | <pwork> | I tried deleting 'chmod -vR 01777 /tmp' and 'chown user:user ~/.Xauthority' with no success |
18:04 | <pwork> | (doing 'chmod ...) |
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18:08 | <Hirschkuh> | is there a way to get a newer wine version for lenny? |
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18:08 | <pwork> | Hirschkuh: Compiling from source |
18:09 | <dondelelcaro> | well, the soap is working fine |
18:09 | <Hirschkuh> | k :( |
18:09 | <dondelelcaro> | err, ECHAN |
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18:13 | <Pitxyoki> | Hirschkuh, you can go get the version currently at the experimental repositories. |
18:13 | <Hirschkuh> | how do i do that? |
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18:14 | <Pitxyoki> | You edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and replace where you see "lenny" with "experimental". |
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18:14 | <Pitxyoki> | Then you do an apt-get update and then an apt-get install wine |
18:15 | <Pitxyoki> | ...after the upgrade, you revert the /etc/apt/sources.list to what it was. |
18:15 | <Hirschkuh> | kay thx |
18:15 | <Pitxyoki> | And do again apt-get update. |
18:15 | <Pitxyoki> | All of this with your root account. |
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18:16 | <Steven_M> | is there a channel for iceweasel? |
18:16 | <adama> | why are there 5 DVDs for lenny i386? I only need the first right?? |
18:16 | <Hirschkuh> | adama, use the network installation if possible |
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18:17 | <Hirschkuh> | with that you only got a image around 130MB, rest will download while install |
18:17 | <Pitxyoki> | Steven_M, what do you want to know about iceweasel? |
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18:17 | <adama> | Hirschkuh: I know, I want an image for an install-fest where the bandwidth will be limited and less waiting around would be good |
18:17 | <Steven_M> | adama: I used the 1st DVD just fine |
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18:18 | <Hirschkuh> | then you only need the first |
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18:18 | <adama> | ok, does it have non-free on it? what are the other DVDs? |
18:18 | <Hirschkuh> | the pages also says "only download the first unless you need the stuff from the others" |
18:18 | <Steven_M> | Pitxyoki: have you had trouble getting audio with flash using iceweasl's default flash plugin? |
18:18 | <adama> | the page I'm at is just a file listing... I probably missed that part |
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18:19 | <Pitxyoki> | Steven_M, some months ago, yes. |
18:19 | <Pitxyoki> | But that bug seemed to go away. |
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18:20 | <Pitxyoki> | What version of Debian are you using? |
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18:20 | <Steven_M> | Pitxyoki: it hasn't with me, I'm using Lenny |
18:20 | <dzusiq> | amphi: I removed avahi-daemon |
18:21 | <Pitxyoki> | Have you tried reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree? |
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18:22 | <zem> | default flash plugin in iceweasel was rubish for me, half the time didn't work at all |
18:22 | <Pitxyoki> | *reinstalling |
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18:23 | <Pitxyoki> | What's the "default"? |
18:23 | <Pitxyoki> | gnash? |
18:23 | <Steven_M> | Pitxyoki: I'm not using flashplugin-plugin-nonfree, decswf, I think |
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18:23 | <Pitxyoki> | Then I don't know. |
18:23 | <Pitxyoki> | I've always used flashplugin-nonfree. |
18:24 | <zem> | i somehow don't think that default flash plugin in debian would be "flashplugin-nonfree" |
18:24 | <david_> | join |
18:25 | <Steven_M> | Pitxyoki: ok, it's not in lenny though :( |
18:25 | <Hirschkuh> | the default is swfdec |
18:25 | <Hirschkuh> | the nonfree is in the debian-multimedia repo |
18:25 | <Steven_M> | zem: what do you use? |
18:26 | <Pitxyoki> | ah |
18:26 | <Pitxyoki> | Now I remember. |
18:26 | <zem> | Steven_M: let me check |
18:26 | <Pitxyoki> | flashplugin-nonfree will never be in the debian stable distribution. |
18:26 | <Hirschkuh> | jupp |
18:26 | <Pitxyoki> | If you want it, you will have to install it from the testing repositories. |
18:26 | <zem> | flashplugin-nonfree |
18:26 | <Hirschkuh> | or just add the debian-multimedia repo, theres other usefull stuff in it |
18:27 | <zem> | and it's in lenny repositories |
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18:27 | <Pitxyoki> | There's some discussion about if it should be at the backports though, but the maintainer seems to not want to do that. |
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18:27 | <zem> | or backports |
18:27 | <zem> | because that are the only ones i use |
18:27 | <Pitxyoki> | Something like that. |
18:27 | <Pitxyoki> | It never gave me problems, though. |
18:28 | <zem> | works like a charm |
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18:28 | <Steven_M> | zem: isn't using backports a security risk? |
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18:29 | <Pitxyoki> | Steven_M, using the Internet is a security risk. |
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18:34 | <ryan_> | I have a production debian sarge server that has data that I need to perform calculations on. Unfortunately the server doesn |
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18:34 | <ryan_> | doesnt have nfs or samba on it and the sarge packages appear to be long gone |
18:34 | <ryan_> | any advice? |
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18:34 | <Steven_M> | Pitxyoki: zem: Hirschkuh: opinions from all 3 please: which would be safer, installing flashplugin non-free from the backports or debian-multimedia? |
18:34 | <Pitxyoki> | I vote for backports. |
18:35 | <Hirschkuh> | ehm |
18:35 | <Pitxyoki> | Backports is an official repository. |
18:35 | <Pitxyoki> | multimedia isn't. |
18:35 | <Hirschkuh> | its like asking a mac user: whats better, windows or mac? |
18:35 | <ansgar> | ryan_: Maybe scp/sftp? There's also archive.debian.org which still has sarge. |
18:35 | <Hirschkuh> | i think safest would be downloading and installing it from adobe |
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18:36 | <ryan_> | ansgar: I considered using sshfs but I think it may be too slow for my needs. archive.debian.org could work though! |
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18:38 | <Steven_M> | Hirschkuh: you mean the adobe website has a deb package? |
18:38 | <Hirschkuh> | no |
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18:39 | <Steven_M> | Hirschkuh: So how does that work? |
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18:40 | <Hirschkuh> | idk, youre talking about safety, so i think getting it from the developers is the safest |
18:40 | <Hirschkuh> | but i looked |
18:40 | <Hirschkuh> | it has a deb package for ubuntu |
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18:40 | <Hirschkuh> | maybe it works for debian as well |
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18:40 | <Steven_M> | Hirschkuh: ok |
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18:41 | <Steven_M> | zem: what do you reckon? |
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18:42 | <Hirschkuh> | Steven_M, what exactly do you want from us? just take deb-multimedia or backports, i think none is the worser one |
18:42 | <Pitxyoki> | Hirschkuh, if Debian has a method for keeping all of your packages automatically maintained and without effort, why on earth would you want to break that and go install something from outside the repositories, that actually you could get from the repos? |
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18:43 | <Hirschkuh> | because for me, debian-multimedia has some other stuff that the backports doesnt have... |
18:43 | <Hirschkuh> | if its only for the flashplugin, go to the packages site and download it and install via dpkg |
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18:44 | <Hirschkuh> | if i remember it has only 1 dependencie that you need to install |
18:44 | <Hirschkuh> | and that dependencie is in the stable repo |
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18:45 | <Hirschkuh> | is there a way to update a programm via apt-get? |
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18:45 | <Hirschkuh> | i want to update gnome to a newer version |
18:46 | <Hirschkuh> | and when i put the experimental repo in it, update then try to reinstall gnome, it says its already installed |
18:46 | <ryan_> | ansgar: Worked great. thanks for the mirror! |
18:46 | <Hirschkuh> | can i tell him to just upgrade it? |
18:46 | <Steven_M> | Hirschkuh: Pitxyoki: ok I've decided to go with backports. I hope I haven't annoyed either of you. |
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18:47 | <djfender> | Hello! |
18:47 | -!- | david_ [~david@189-46-170-80.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #debian |
18:47 | <djfender> | I have a question.... |
18:48 | <djfender> | ^-^; How do I execute files? OpenITG wont load when simply clicked... |
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18:48 | <djfender> | I just transferred from XP so I am a bit....confused :P |
18:48 | <Steven_M> | Pitxyoki: are the packages in backports coverd by DSA's? |
18:48 | <Hirschkuh> | is it a commandline tool? |
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18:48 | <djfender> | nope, its a game |
18:49 | <djfender> | why did you check my CTCP hirsh? |
18:49 | <Hirschkuh> | i like informtion :D |
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18:49 | <djfender> | oh :P |
18:49 | <Hirschkuh> | do u run gnome? |
18:49 | <djfender> | mk |
18:49 | <djfender> | nope im on kde |
18:49 | <Hirschkuh> | okay |
18:49 | <Hirschkuh> | then press alt+f2 type "konsole" (without "") |
18:50 | <Hirschkuh> | in that konsole you enter the command (i think openitg) |
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18:50 | <djfender> | I didn't like gnome, it felt to mac-y |
18:50 | <Hirschkuh> | if it runs, be happy, if not (what i think) it will show you an error |
18:50 | <djfender> | bash: openitg: command not found |
18:51 | <Hirschkuh> | how did you install it? |
18:51 | <djfender> | unzipped :P |
18:51 | <Nemoder> | is there a README file with it? |
18:51 | <Hirschkuh> | unzipped what? sourcecode, .deb files? |
18:51 | <djfender> | nope |
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18:53 | <deed02392> | i followed the guide recommended from someone who did !tell about compiling the kernel. but i got this Kernel: arch/x86/boot/bzImage is ready (#1), what now? |
18:55 | <Hirschkuh> | copy it to the boot dir and edit your grub config |
18:56 | <deed02392> | just literally cp it to /boot and change lilo to it's name in /boot? |
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18:56 | <djfender> | I closed it lol |
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18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | you should keep your old kernel |
18:57 | <djfender> | ? |
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18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | for the case that the new one wont work ;) |
18:57 | <deed02392> | so i'll call it something different yeah |
18:57 | <deed02392> | cp ./bzImage /boot/2.6-config-custom-std-ipv4-32 |
18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | jupp |
18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | fro example |
18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | but |
18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | cp /arch/x86/boot/bzImage |
18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | ;) |
18:57 | <Hirschkuh> | argh |
18:57 | <djfender> | djfender@Mizuki:~/oitg/OpenITGprebeta$ ./openitg-sse2 |
18:57 | <djfender> | bash: ./openitg-sse2: Permission denied |
18:58 | <deed02392> | yeah, i already cd'd into there and did that :) |
18:58 | <Hirschkuh> | cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/2.6-config-custom-std-ipv4-32 |
18:58 | <Hirschkuh> | good |
18:58 | <deed02392> | okay |
18:58 | <Hirschkuh> | now edit your config and update lilo |
18:58 | <deed02392> | so now to edit lilo |
18:58 | <deed02392> | which is /etc/lilo.conf? |
18:58 | <Hirschkuh> | with lilo i cant help, i use grub, sorry |
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18:58 | <deed02392> | i see the line, image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.27.10-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32 |
18:58 | <deed02392> | i'll just change that to the new name |
18:59 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 395] by debhelper |
18:59 | <Hirschkuh> | then you wont be able to boot your old kernel |
18:59 | <Hirschkuh> | if you add a new entry with the new kernel, youll be able to boot both |
18:59 | <deed02392> | but this server is a dedi in a different country, i won't get the choice anyway will i? |
18:59 | <Hirschkuh> | djfender, type chmod +x openitg-sse2 |
18:59 | <Hirschkuh> | that makes it executable |
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19:00 | <Hirschkuh> | hmmm |
19:00 | <Hirschkuh> | in that case youre right :) |
19:00 | <deed02392> | lol |
19:00 | <Hirschkuh> | though it is a PC at home |
19:00 | <Hirschkuh> | thought |
19:00 | <deed02392> | so if this kernel goes tits up |
19:00 | <deed02392> | there's nothing i can do, is there? |
19:00 | <Hirschkuh> | call the operator :D |
19:00 | <deed02392> | jesus |
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19:00 | <Hirschkuh> | or just hope your kernel will work |
19:00 | <deed02392> | here goes nothing then |
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19:01 | <Hirschkuh> | if the system wont boot, you wont be able to connect, will you? |
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19:01 | <djfender> | thanks :) |
19:01 | <Hirschkuh> | np |
19:01 | <deed02392> | i doubt it hirschkuh |
19:01 | <Hirschkuh> | :P |
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19:01 | <Hirschkuh> | what did you change in the config? |
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19:04 | <djfender> | how do I check if my OGL is working? |
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19:04 | <djfender> | cause it boots it just doesnt want to stay on |
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19:07 | <deed02392> | it worked |
19:07 | <deed02392> | ;SJFAPSJFSDAJDSAFAS :DDD |
19:07 | <deed02392> | and i can taste my heart |
19:07 | <acerna> | creepy |
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19:08 | <deed02392> | wahooo |
19:09 | <deed02392> | now i hope i have modules support |
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19:10 | <deed02392> | otherwise that was a whole load of fuss about nothing |
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19:16 | * | Steven_M goes to lunch |
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19:20 | <deed02392> | hey, how do i find this? |
19:20 | <deed02392> | What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running |
19:20 | <deed02392> | kernel? |
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19:21 | * | Steven_M goes to lunch |
19:21 | <Maulkin> | apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`; /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` |
19:21 | <Maulkin> | I think |
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19:21 | <Maulkin> | deed02392: && |
19:21 | <Maulkin> | ^^ even |
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19:22 | <deed02392> | Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.28.4-xxxx-std-ipv4-32 |
19:22 | <deed02392> | :/ |
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19:22 | <sander_m> | Hi. I am having a lot of trouble using sftp from my Lenny desktop to my Etch server. Very often the command that executes on the server ends up <defunct> and my client hangs. |
19:23 | <sander_m> | Does that sound familiar? Any possible fixes? |
19:23 | <deed02392> | apt-get doesn't have my linux header files |
19:23 | <Maulkin> | Err... are you runnign your own kernel? |
19:23 | <deed02392> | it's probably a custom one yeah, ovh did it |
19:24 | <deed02392> | as in the datacenter provider |
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19:24 | <deed02392> | is this bad? |
19:24 | <Maulkin> | Then you can't expect Debian to have your headers... |
19:24 | <Maulkin> | Ask ovh |
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19:24 | <sander_m> | Here's the output of `ps-axuf` showing the defunct process: http://pastebin.com/d796ad434 |
19:24 | <deed02392> | they won't reply to me, they're terrible |
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19:24 | <deed02392> | is there any other way to get my headers |
19:24 | <deed02392> | i compiled the kernel myself |
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19:25 | <Maulkin> | use your souce tree |
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19:26 | <deed02392> | hell yeah |
19:26 | <deed02392> | #/usr/src/linux-2.6.28.4-ovh/include worked |
19:26 | <deed02392> | one step closer to getting vmware working |
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19:28 | <deed02392> | f'ing love linux |
19:28 | <zimba> | hi |
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19:28 | <deed02392> | exciting stuff |
19:28 | <zimba> | Kile suddenly doesn't start on my lenny |
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19:31 | <zimba> | I can only see the initial splashscreen of the application |
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19:31 | <zimba> | but it doesnt start |
19:31 | <zimba> | no messages if I run it from command-line |
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19:34 | <zimba> | the same for KWrite |
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19:39 | <tom_123> | Hi. I'm running unstable. I can't install mplayer. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518670 talks about this, but I don't understand what the final message ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518670#10 ) means. Any ideas? |
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19:43 | <dondelelcaro> | tom_123: it's being rebuilt against a new version of libavcodec, and will be installable once it goes through dinstall |
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19:44 | <zimba> | Kile and other kde apps don't start on my lenny after I installed skype, libqt,... |
19:44 | <zimba> | what should I do? |
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19:51 | <tom_123> | dondelelcaro: Ah, but the build daemons just haven't finished yet? (I remember mplayer taking a while to compile actually) |
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20:06 | <dondelelcaro> | tom_123: no, it hasn't been uploaded yet |
20:06 | <CodeBlue> | hello, I have a problem, I just bought a VPS (Debian 5) but APT is not installed, how can I install it, dpkg is also not installed |
20:06 | <dondelelcaro> | tom_123: the maintainer has added the fix, and it'll probably be uploaded soon |
20:07 | <abrotman> | CodeBlue: sounds like they don't want you installing anything ? |
20:07 | <abrotman> | CodeBlue: are you sure it's debian? |
20:07 | <dondelelcaro> | tom_123: since it's unstable, though, you should be capable of working around this problem yourself by installing the versions of libavcodec from testing or similar. |
20:07 | <CodeBlue> | yeah said debian 5 when I purchaced it |
20:07 | <dondelelcaro> | well, if it doesn't have apt or dpkg, it's either not Debian, or a hideously broken Debian. |
20:08 | <CodeBlue> | its a VPS so i should be allowed to install anything |
20:08 | <abrotman> | CodeBlue: cat /etc/debian_version ? |
20:08 | <zumbi> | what is a VPS ? |
20:08 | <abrotman> | !vps |
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20:08 | <abrotman> | virtual private server |
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20:08 | <CodeBlue> | No such file |
20:08 | <CodeBlue> | 0_0 |
20:08 | <CodeBlue> | what the hell did they give me |
20:09 | <CodeBlue> | I bet it gave me centOS |
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20:10 | <dondelelcaro> | CodeBlue: if they have lsb_release, you could run lsb_release -a; and see what it is |
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20:10 | <zumbi> | dpkg: VPS is virtual private server |
20:10 | <dpkg> | zumbi: okay |
20:10 | <CodeBlue> | nope |
20:10 | <CodeBlue> | :( |
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20:12 | <CodeBlue> | any ideas on what i can do to install APT? |
20:12 | <zumbi> | get the source & compile |
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20:12 | <CodeBlue> | I bet I cant even compile |
20:12 | <CodeBlue> | lol |
20:13 | <zumbi> | debootstrap ? |
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20:13 | <CodeBlue> | where do i get APT sources all i can find are .deb's |
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20:14 | <CodeBlue> | whats debootstrap |
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20:14 | <zumbi> | !debootstrap |
20:14 | <dpkg> | somebody said debootstrap was <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a <chroot>. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips#s-chroot, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap, or key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System. See to the release specific Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide for ... |
20:15 | <zumbi> | !sources |
20:15 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
20:15 | <zumbi> | CodeBlue: sources are linked from packages.debian.org, you have a tarball and a diff |
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20:17 | <CodeBlue> | damn I have to install all the build dep's |
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20:19 | <CodeBlue> | this is going to be a nightmare |
20:19 | <CodeBlue> | I dont even know what version im using |
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20:20 | <zumbi> | CodeBlue: install a real debian |
20:20 | <CodeBlue> | its a VPS i cannot |
20:21 | <CodeBlue> | I dont think i can ne way |
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20:21 | <CodeBlue> | gcc isnt even installed |
20:21 | <CodeBlue> | this is a joke |
20:22 | <CodeBlue> | when i do uname -r i get 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2ent |
20:22 | <CodeBlue> | WTF |
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20:24 | <zumbi> | CodeBlue: google says: Red Hat 4.1.2-42 (Linux 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2ent); |
20:25 | <CodeBlue> | does redhat have something similar to apt? |
20:26 | <zumbi> | yum, rpm, but this is not the right place for such |
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20:27 | <CodeBlue> | ok thanks for all ur help, time to write some angry emails. |
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20:28 | <nsa_fiend> | i moved a hdd with a lenny install to another box. this box has usb ports on the front panel and a pci card with about 4 more. what do i need to do to be able to use these usb ports? onboard does not seem to be responding to devices plugged in either. |
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20:30 | <tech13> | winecfg, vmware and a couple other programs cause xorg to crash on my system. Xorg.0.log at http://debian.pastebin.com/d60212d00 |
20:31 | <tech13> | how do I go about fixing it? |
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20:31 | <tech13> | err /my system/xorg/ |
20:32 | <BaDaSs> | rm -rf * |
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20:35 | <JECHO> | hey guys |
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20:37 | <nsa_fiend> | this channel has really gone downhill |
20:38 | <amphi> | !:e |
20:38 | <dpkg> | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! |
20:39 | <nsa_fiend> | sigh |
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20:40 | <stew> | tech13: hopefully you know better than to listen to BaDaSs |
20:42 | <tech13> | stew, At least I didn't tell him about the easy to hack machine at 127.14.234.73 |
20:42 | <pwork> | Hello, I installed a lenny 64b and a chrooted lenny 32b : I can't disable beeps in xterm when in chrooted root. I installed all X packages in chrooted lenny 32b, added 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' and 'xset b off' in .xinitrc, .xsession, .bashrc, .profile, and so on, but still beeps : any idea ? |
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20:44 | <pwork> | I use ICEwm, maybe it should be put in ~/.icewm/startup script, but I don't think so since this directory doesn't exist for root. |
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20:46 | <pwork> | stew is in the matrix |
20:46 | <BaDaSs> | he dialed out |
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20:46 | <pwork> | OK, I'll use something to deafen my ears so ;) Bye |
20:47 | <pwork> | Time to sleep |
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20:53 | <Dr_Noob__> | rape |
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20:56 | <oipunx> | hello, just wondering will rsync update changes to dir? |
20:56 | <oipunx> | like if i move a dir on hdc will it also move the dir on hdd? |
20:57 | <oipunx> | or is it just gonna make another copy but at a new location on hdd |
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21:54 | <panagos> | hi, i have a question about postgresql, the initscript has some autovac-* commands, but they don't seem to do anything, what is more the shell prints a 'command not found' error! looks like a bug to me... how is vacuuming handled in the debian postgresql packages? i don't see any cronjobs! |
21:57 | <dondelelcaro> | panagos: as of postgresql 8.1, it's done automatically |
21:58 | <dondelelcaro> | panagos: that the init script still has the stubs for it is a bug which you could file. |
21:58 | <panagos> | dondelelcaro: ah, i see, seems even the official docs are a little outdated on the matter :| |
21:59 | <oipunx> | will rsync update changes to dir? |
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22:00 | <dondelelcaro> | oipunx: it can |
22:00 | <dondelelcaro> | panagos: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/maintenance.html#AUTOVACUUM |
22:03 | <panagos> | dondelelcaro: aha, my bad then, do i have to enable this from the configuration file? |
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22:03 | <dondelelcaro> | panagos: I'm pretty sure it's the default |
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22:07 | <oipunx> | if i move a dir on hdc will it also move the dir on hdd? |
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22:07 | <oipunx> | or is it just gonna make another copy but at a new location on hdd |
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22:14 | <dondelelcaro> | oipunx: rsync copies things. what exactly it does depends on the options you've given it |
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22:18 | <trf> | If medicine was like computer science: "I was supposed to be performing surgery, but I just started jerking off to porn instead." |
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22:19 | <maria-chica> | #debian-br |
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22:29 | <kop> | Does rrdtool support sub-second accuracy? I don't think the version in etch does.... Is there a version that does? (Lenny?) |
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22:44 | <Odinux> | I have a question about the cgi-bin directory in the virtual host. I need help. |
22:46 | <Odinux> | I want to know how I can make more than one cgi-bin directory active? |
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22:48 | <kop> | Odinux : IIRC you can have one per <Directory> directive. Why do you want more than 1? (I suppose you could softlink subdirs inside cgi-bin....) |
22:51 | <Odinux> | Can I have one folder CGI-Bin active per virtual host? |
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22:55 | <Odinux> | ? |
22:55 | <kop> | Odinux : Sure. Just put the directive inside the virtual host directive. |
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23:03 | <Odinux> | what is the link for past thing? |
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23:05 | <Odinux> | What is the website can I paste my configuration file? |
23:05 | <dkr> | !paste |
23:05 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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23:08 | <Odinux> | The first CGI-Bin work but the 2th doesn't want to work: http://paste.debian.net/30194/ |
23:08 | <Odinux> | when I go to the 2th I have to download my .pl file what is the reason about that? |
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23:09 | <Odinux> | What is the reason about that the configuration seems to be correct no? |
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23:12 | <Odinux> | ? |
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23:13 | <Odinux> | Can someone can help me with my problem? |
23:14 | <kop> | Odinux : Gotta go. When it does not work, how do you know? (You may want to read the apache man pages at http://httpd.apache.org/ |
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23:20 | <ml> | amphi: are you around |
23:21 | <amphi> | somewhat |
23:21 | <ml> | thanks for the irssi script suggestion |
23:22 | <amphi> | dimension |
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23:22 | <amphi> | did you get adv_windowlist.pl > |
23:22 | <amphi> | ? |
23:22 | <ml> | trackbar nickcolors and ofcourse your theme :) |
23:22 | <amphi> | awl is also well worth it IMHO |
23:22 | <ml> | could not find it |
23:23 | <amphi> | it's not packaed, I think |
23:23 | <ml> | it's not packed you beat me to it |
23:23 | <ml> | ima doa google search |
23:24 | <amphi> | you must get it from irssi.org, and stick it in ~/.irssi/scripts (with an optional symlink in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun) |
23:24 | <amphi> | dictcomplete.pl is quite funny, lets you tab-complete every word |
23:24 | <ml> | ok that's how I have them setup in autorun ln -s |
23:24 | <amphi> | not overly practical |
23:24 | <amphi> | right |
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23:25 | <ml> | amphi: right now I'm using ... |
23:25 | <ml> | anames.pl nickcolor.pl old scriptassist.pl spellcheck.pl trackbar.pl urlgrab.pl |
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23:26 | <amphi> | trackbar is great, IMHO - simple and immensely useful |
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23:27 | <ml> | amphi: I agree all your suggestions are much better than before :) |
23:28 | <amphi> | good-oh |
23:28 | <amphi> | how's xmonad treating you? |
23:28 | <ml> | amphi: adv_windowlist.pl is not at irssi.org |
23:28 | <amphi> | no? |
23:28 | <ml> | amphi: good |
23:28 | <ml> | amphi: http://scripts.irssi.org/ take a look |
23:29 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 376] by debhelper |
23:29 | <ml> | maybe I'm blind |
23:29 | <amphi> | I believe you |
23:29 | <Odinux> | The ScriptAlias directive tells Apache that a particular directory is set aside for CGI programs. Apache will assume that every file in this directory is a CGI program, and will attempt to execute it, when that particular resource is requested by a client. |
23:29 | <amphi> | does google turn it up? |
23:29 | <Odinux> | the question is... can I have more than one cgi-bin directory? |
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23:31 | <ml> | amphi: i,m looking |
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23:32 | <amphi> | ml: http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/mirrors/adv_windowlist.pl |
23:33 | <amphi> | looks likw |
23:33 | <amphi> | *like |
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23:33 | <ml> | amphi: how bout http://ossowicki.com/?tag=scripts |
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23:34 | <amphi> | does the url I gave not work? |
23:35 | <ml> | yes they are both the same version .6ca |
23:35 | <ml> | amphi: same as yours? |
23:35 | <amphi> | yeah |
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23:36 | <ml> | great :) |
23:36 | <ml> | I ln -s let me load it |
23:36 | <amphi> | nice, eh? |
23:37 | <amphi> | oh |
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23:37 | <ml> | yes very nice :) |
23:37 | <ml> | let join another channel\ |
23:37 | <amphi> | #debian-offtopic ;) |
23:38 | <ml> | heh |
23:38 | <ml> | ok |
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23:40 | <Ethaniel> | Evening, everyone (01:40 down here) |
23:40 | <snogglethorpe> | 1240 here |
23:40 | <snogglethorpe> | lunchtime! |
23:40 | <amphi> | Tue Mar 10 03:40:54 GMT 2009 |
23:41 | <amphi> | bed time ;) |
23:41 | <snogglethorpe> | amphi: not hack time? |
23:41 | <snogglethorpe> | hack hack hack |
23:41 | <Ethaniel> | Question: Which's the opposite of the "mount" command? |
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23:42 | <snogglethorpe> | Ethaniel: umount? |
23:42 | <Ethaniel> | Tried that, got a "no command found". |
23:42 | <snogglethorpe> | Ethaniel: sudo umount? |
23:43 | <snogglethorpe> | (named back in the days when "n"s were scarce) |
23:43 | <snogglethorpe> | (no more than one per command) |
23:43 | <Ethaniel> | Flying as root right now, still got command not found. |
23:43 | <Ethaniel> | Do I need a package? |
23:44 | <Ethaniel> | Wait: "umount"? |
23:44 | <Ethaniel> | Or "unmount"? |
23:44 | <amphi> | umount |
23:45 | <Tom9729> | Does anyone know of a way to prevent ssh from reporting it's version number when browsed to with a web browser (ie. example.com:22)? I'm running it on a non-standard port and I would like it to not reveal itself if possible. |
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23:46 | <Ethaniel> | (Done, one extra "n" was the problem...) |
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