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---Logopened Tue Apr 28 00:00:01 2009
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00:00-!-Kumool [40edef62@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #debian
00:00<Kumool>hello hmm, i have a problem, i installed debian and well system doesnt boot
00:01<chealer>jaaaaakke: you can use iwlist scan to get a list of wireless networks
00:01<Kumool>i did the usual fixes that i use at my dog (curse at it) but it didnt work :(
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00:01<jaaaaakke>in my console?
00:02<jaaaaakke>excuse me, terminal?
00:03<Kumool>so can anyone help me?
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00:03<_gama>does anyone have any quick or eazy way to fix the ubuntu 9.04 desktop effects problem?
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00:04<gsimmons>_gama: Ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net.
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00:05<_gama>am i out of place if i ask what the difference between the 2 channels
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00:07<chealer>Kumool: just ask your question
00:07<chealer>jaaaaakke: yes
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00:10<jaaaaakke>i try iwlist wlan0 but i get a :command not found error
00:10<jaaaaakke>am in in the wrong path?
00:11<jaaaaakke>if thats the error i get?
00:11<jaaaaakke>FUCK being a newb is frustrating
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00:13<freehood4all>jaaaaakke: do a lspci -v and look for your wireless card and make sure your kernal module is loaded
00:13<_gama>should not get so !KISS
00:14<chealer>jaaaaakke: do you do it as root?
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00:17<jaaaaakke>yes my kernul module is loaded (ath5k)
00:17<Kumool>chealer: well 3 lines come up, loading and all... but then it says kinit resume image not found (is that normal)?
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00:18<Kumool>not even tty starts because "job control is turned off"
00:18<chealer>Kumool: yes (since you're not resuming)
00:18<Kumool>ok
00:19<freehood4all>jaaaaakke: type "su" for root
00:19<chealer>jaaaaakke: the first part indicates that you're jaaaaakke, not root
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00:19<jaaaaakke>thank you very much freehood
00:19<chealer>jaaaaakke: so you're just not the right user
00:19<freehood4all>you are in the root directory but you are not logged into root
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00:20<jaaaaakke>hmmm.
00:20<jaaaaakke>i did a iwlist scan, and my wlan0 came as "no scan results"
00:20<Kumool>well the it normal boots, but then it doesnt mount anything
00:20<Kumool>then*
00:20<freehood4all>jaaaaakke: what is the output of ifconfig?
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00:21<Kumool>it tries to mount /dev/root on /sys/root or something, but it fails, and so does everything it tries to mount
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00:22<jaaaaakke>freehood4all: what exactly am i looking for in the ifconfig...?
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00:23<jaaaaakke>it comes up with each device, and information about it
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00:23<freehood4all>what is the output of your wireless interface ie wlan0
00:24<freehood4all>or whatever you wireless interface is reffered to
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00:24<jaaaaakke>link encap:ethernet hwaddr 00:23:4d:d7:4e:ce
00:24<jaaaaakke>up broadcast multicast mtu:1500 metric:1
00:24<jaaaaakke>do i need to keep going? lol
00:25<freehood4all>what interface is it you are listing?
00:25<jaaaaakke>wlan0
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00:26<freehood4all>iwlist wlan0 scan
00:26<jaaaaakke>no scan results.
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00:26<chealer>Kumool: it's hard to help without something more precise. you can use pause to interrupt the boot
00:28<freehood4all>first thing I would try is "ifconfig wlan0 down" then ifconfig wlan0 up
00:29<jaaaaakke>then the scan?
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00:29<freehood4all>yes
00:29<jaaaaakke>same results.
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00:30<Kumool>ok here is the output http://paste.debian.net/34612/ im very sry i wrote it by hand so its not exact
00:30<freehood4all>this is a fresh debian lenny install?
00:30<jaaaaakke>i think so
00:30<jaaaaakke>how would i check?
00:31<freehood4all>well you can tell if it's lenny by doing "uname -a"
00:31<freehood4all>you don't know when you installed your OS???
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00:31<jaaaaakke>Linux Debian 2.6.26-2-686
00:32<jaaaaakke>my idiot roomate gave me the cd and said it was the latest distro
00:32<jaaaaakke>but i believe i am the idiot.
00:32<freehood4all>that is the latest kernel i do believe
00:33<Kumool>thats the kernel
00:33<jaaaaakke>when i went to system->administration->network
00:33<jaaaaakke>i had to choose from a list...and i picked lenny 5.0
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00:36<freehood4all>if you are new to linux why not try ubuntu 9.04?
00:36<Kumool>chealer: is that ok? thats the all of the output
00:36<Kumool>dribbled about but it is
00:36<jaaaaakke>freehood4all: true, i thought of this but this is a small hurdle i hope to figure out
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00:38<freehood4all>I'm on a laptop with ath9k driver with ubuntu installed
00:38<freehood4all>it works flawlessly... my server is Debian but no wireless nic
00:38<jaaaaakke>i was thinking about installing openSUSE
00:38<freehood4all>ewww
00:38<jaaaaakke>but my roomate convinced me to go debian intsead
00:38<jaaaaakke>why ew?
00:39<jaaaaakke>i kinda like it (its what my school uses)
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00:39<freehood4all>I run a remote server thats opensuse I hate it
00:39<jaaaaakke>isnt remote server just absolutely slow?
00:39<freehood4all>no it's a dedicated server
00:39<freehood4all>I rent from OVH
00:41-!-mode/#debian [+l 381] by debhelper
00:41<jaaaaakke>ohhh i c
00:41<chealer>Kumool: that's certainly not OK.
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00:43<Kumool>chealer: well thats all the output... i cut a few parts that were just like the previous
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00:47<Kumool>i think its a problem with lilo...
00:47<Kumool>is there anyway that i can choose to install grub?
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00:47<chealer>Kumool: which Debian suite did you install?
00:47<sep>!lilo->grub
00:47<sep>too early for dpkg perhaps ?
00:48<chealer>dpkg: test
00:48<dpkg>Test Failed.
00:48<gsimmons>literal lilo->grub
00:48<gsimmons>!literal lilo->grub
00:48<dpkg>"lilo->grub" is "<reply>aptitude install grub; aptitude purge lilo; edit /etc/kernel-img.conf, so both postinst_hook and postrm_hook are equal to /sbin/update-grub - then run update-grub and install-grub /dev/harddiskdevice to be sure."
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00:48<Kumool>chealer: debian cd
00:49<chealer>Kumool: which debian cd?
00:49<Kumool>the first one
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00:50<chealer>Kumool: what kind of computer do you use?
00:50<Kumool>sep: i dont think i can run apt on busybox
00:50<Kumool>hmm pentium4
00:50<chealer>Kumool: can't do that, indeed
00:50<chealer>Kumool: what's would be the name or URL of the ISO image you downloaded?
00:51<Kumool>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/bt-cd/ <--- the first on the list
00:52<chealer>Kumool: did you do anything particular during the installation?
00:52<Kumool>not really
00:52<chealer>Kumool: what other OS ran on that machine?
00:52<Kumool>first i installed lilo with hmm w/e 25mb bios support, and it didnt work and then with the 8mb limit
00:52<Kumool>fedora
00:53<Kumool>fedora8
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00:53<chealer>Kumool: what do you mean by "w/e 25mb bios support"?
00:53<Kumool>and winXP
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00:55<chealer>Kumool: you didn't do an expert install, right?
00:55<Kumool>chealer: there is an option it went something like, newer Bios have support for 15mb or something and but if i hav a bios older than 2001 that it wont support the 15mb of space for init or something like that
00:55<Kumool>chealer: nop it was standard
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00:56<chealer>Kumool: lilo was installed by debian-installer?
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00:56<Kumool>chealer: i should try doing an expert install for now... and see if something gets fixed... i didnt get some questions on normal install, ill do worst on expert :)
00:57<Kumool>chealer: yes, automatically it didnt even ask an option for grub
00:58<chealer>Kumool: hum. note that I wasn't suggesting to do an expert install
00:59<Kumool>ah ok
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01:01<chealer>Kumool: I have never heard about this "w/e 25mb bios support", but it most likely explains d-i installing lilo, which must be related to your problem. Debian usually installs grub. did you already install Debian successfully on another machine?
01:01<Kumool>yes but not 5.0
01:01<chealer>Kumool: and on that machine?
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01:05<Kumool>well i installed debian etch on another machine but not lenny (except through upgrade) on that machine, on this one only ubuntu and fedora have installed successfully
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01:10<chealer>Kumool: others must know more about lilo. I'd personally investigate why lilo is installed and what exactly is that "w/e 25mb bios support" thing.
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01:15<Kumool>http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-l10n-english@lists.debian.org/msg02689.html <-- here is the limitation on 15mb
01:15<Kumool>ah he left :(
01:15<Kumool>im doomed
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03:14<cesurasean>does anyone know why I'm getting this error?
03:14<cesurasean>Short name (NAME) undefined in /etc/default/saslauthd, using default ^[[33m(warning).^[[39;49m
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03:23<cesurasean>apt-get install saslauthd isn't working. any ideas?
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03:24<gsimmons>cesurasean: You don't have a short name for the saslauthd instance defined. Also, saslauthd is in the 'sasl2-bin' package.
03:25<enouf>cesurasean: try /msg dpkg search ; /msg dpkg apt-file
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03:28<RealMurphy>Hi all, I've a question concerning fail2ban, especially it's regexps for sshd.conf:
03:29<RealMurphy>Given the line: " ^%(__prefix_line)sUser .+ from <HOST> not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers$"
03:29<RealMurphy>Is the s in front of "User" correct, or shouldn't it be a \s?
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03:30<enouf>RealMurphy: not sure, you might want to use \ to escape each parenthesis
03:30<RealMurphy>I think fail2ban exchanges the parnthesis part by some other block
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03:32<RealMurphy>enouf: I'm just investigating a successful hack attack on one of our servers and fail2ban did not ban the IP after 100s of attempts
03:32<cheako>Hello, I'd like to migrate my existing /usr onto read-only media. How can I get union or aufs working in Lenny?
03:33<cheako>I just asked in Debian-Live, but they must be afk.
03:36<enouf>RealMurphy: i understand - wish i could help more ... might try debian-user mailing list? and perhaps #debian or ##linux on freenode.net or even #bash ? (concerning regex - if you use bash that is)
03:37<RealMurphy>I'll try the mailing list (or file a bug report about this)
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03:38<RealMurphy>(or ask the maintainer)
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03:56<cesurasean>Errors were encountered while processing:
03:56<cesurasean> postgresql-client-8.3
03:56<cesurasean>E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
03:57<cesurasean>how do I remove something from apt's database since it thinks I still have this installed?
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04:00<cheako>kk, I just got aufs working... not too hard.
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04:58<heyday>hi, got a problem with ISCSI and Debian and I can't find any info on the inet of my specific problem
04:58<heyday>could somebody help ¿?
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05:01<heyday>ermmm hi ?
05:01<heyday>is somebody out there ?
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05:01<gsimmons>heyday: Just go ahead and state your problem.
05:01<gsimmons>!tell heyday -about ask
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05:02<heyday>ok
05:02<heyday>I can't mount any of my ISCSI LUN's
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05:03<heyday>I use the package open-iscsi, it works . . I can log in to the machine and see the volumes, but I can't mount them . . I have I/O disk errrors
05:03<heyday>I know there is some kind of problem with the modules related to it, depending on kernel version . . . I read it in the README of the source code of open-iscsi
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05:04<heyday>but I can't exactly find the right information to make it work
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05:05<heyday>I see lot's of people finaly did
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05:05<heyday>but nobody posterd the right solution all over the internet . . . so it's useless and it's a common problem with some ISCSISANS
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05:09<heyday>I just need to know what to do to make the modules work correctly . ..
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05:15<heyday>gsimmons, I must suppose that this reaction is because most of people here is connecting from america and they are sleeping now ?
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05:17<vadim>hi. I really need help. Is there a way to access my phone's Motorola k1m microSD card as usb device? have great problems with that. Please HELP!
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05:18<simon__>cw=Z]PU;:
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05:24<heyday>irc://orion.irc-hispano.org
05:24<vadim>hi. I really need help. Is there a way to access my phone's Motorola k1m microSD card as usb device? have great problems with that. Please HELP!
05:28<petemc>usb card readers generally, if you want to access it via the phone, get googling
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05:29<petemc>generally work, i should say
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05:36<blade>hi all
05:37<blade>can any one help me with installing lenny please
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05:44<blade>is there any one here?
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05:48<vadim>petemc: googling for sev days)) when try execute lsusb with phone connected it just hangs. Dmesg gives "unable to enumerate usb device"
05:50<vadim>blade: what's the problem?
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05:54<jaaaaakke>can someone please help me with my wireless
05:54<jaaaaakke>ive been going at it for hours now...im extremely lost
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05:55<jaaaaakke>i have an Atheros Wireless card, ath5k module
05:55<jaaaaakke>wlan0 shows up for me, but i CANT detect my SSID
05:55<jaaaaakke>or ANY ssid for that matter
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05:58<blade>i am running winxp and want to dual boot with lenny will it do it auto ?
05:58<blade>or do i need to install a bootloader manually
05:59<petern>it'll install grub
05:59<petern>which will let you choose lenny or windows on boot up
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06:03<blade>cool cheers m8
06:04<blade>going to install now :)
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06:15<user01>it works xD
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06:16<knoppix_>hi
06:16<knoppix_>can i ask for something ?
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06:17<Yoda-BZH`Wk>!ask
06:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
06:17<Korg>ok
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06:18<Korg>i'm trying to install openldap on knoppix but without success
06:18<Korg>when i try to ./configure i have this error
06:18<Korg>configure: error: could not locate usable POSIX Threads
06:18<Korg>what's the problem ? thx
06:19<petemc>the problem is you're not using debian, if you were you could aptitude install openldap
06:20<Korg>but i think knoppix is comiled by debian ! isen't it ?
06:20<Korg>compiled*
06:20<petemc>no
06:20<Korg>what's the solution with knoppix then ?
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06:20<petemc>Korg: here you will get advice on debian
06:21<Korg>oh ! ok i see !
06:21<Korg>anyway ! thanks
06:21<petemc>np
06:21<petemc>you could try #knoppix on freenode
06:21<Korg>freenode is an other server ?
06:22<petemc>another network, yes
06:22<petemc>irc.freenode.net
06:22<Korg>thank you !!
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06:43<sander_m>Hello. Is there someone here who understands "magic" file type recognition and the /usr/share/file/magic definitions?
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06:46<sander_m>It looks like file type detection for OpenDocument Format isn't good on Lenny. Inspecting an .odt file on Lenny works, but any other kind of document is always returned as mimetype "application/octet-stream".
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06:47<amphi>sander_m: here, file(1) just says 'data' if it doesn't know what something is
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06:48<sander_m>amphi: It's strange. When I do `file myfile.ods` on a spreadsheet it says "OpenDocument Spreadsheet", but doing `file --mime myfile.ods` says "application/octet-stream"
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06:50<frunsk>hi is there support for the evolution mapi plugin?
06:50<azeem>frunsk: it's being worked on
06:50<frunsk>azeem, tnz
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06:50<azeem>frunsk: see http://bugs.debian.org/525872
06:51<jelloir>I added debian multimedia to my sources list - upgraded and it broke vlc. How would I downgrade all the packages that were upgraded from debian multimedia (or find out what packages were upgraded).
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06:51<sander_m>amphi: When I look at /usr/share/file/magic around lines 1978 then I see that magic does define the filetype names for ods and odp files but not the mimetype.
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07:04<jelloir>I added debian multimedia to my sources list - upgraded and it broke vlc. How would I downgrade all the packages that were upgraded from debian multimedia (or find out what packages were upgraded).
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07:14<stevecotton>jelloir: downgrading can break stuff too (it's not a tested path). Search patten in Aptitude is probably ~Omulti or ?origin(multi) I don't have any deb-multimedia packages installed to try it on.
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07:18<oktay-lxde>!gnome
07:18<dpkg>hmm... gnome is a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+ - see http://www.gnome.org/ To get GNOME, ask me about <install gnome>. See also <gnome status>. http:/wiki.debian.org/Gnome #gnome-debian @ irc.gnome.org.
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07:19<oktay-lxde>!gnome status
07:19<dpkg>well, gnome status is shown by the Debian GNOME packaging team at http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/status.html
07:19<oktay-lxde>hi
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07:20<stevecotton>hi oktay-lxde. If you're wanting info from dpkg for yourself, you can ask privately ( /msg dpkg question )
07:21<oktay-lxde>stevecotton, thx
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07:25<johnasprey1>hi
07:26-!-sean2009 [~sean@user-5440097b.l5.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #debian
07:26<johnasprey1>.
07:26<sean2009>hi
07:26<johnasprey1>hello
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07:27<johnasprey1>whats happening here
07:27<sean2009>not sure
07:27<johnasprey1>hehe]
07:27<sean2009>heheh
07:27<johnasprey1>u like debian#
07:27<sean2009>i have ubuntu
07:27<johnasprey1>really
07:27<sean2009>no
07:28<johnasprey1>yes
07:28<sean2009>type the same thing
07:28<johnasprey1>type the same thing
07:28<johnasprey1>hehe it woked
07:28<sean2009>hehe it did
07:28<sean2009>whats this chhanel for
07:28<johnasprey1>who knows
07:29<johnasprey1>ask someone
07:29<sean2009>i just did
07:29<johnasprey1>who
07:29<sean2009>you
07:29<johnasprey1>you can type fast
07:29<sean2009>yes i know
07:29<OdyX>!bots
07:29<dpkg>All your bots are belong to us, or #debian-bots, or dpkg (<dpkgbot>), apt, ravenbird, badgers, piggy, debhelper, <judd>. Are we not men? If you prick us, do we not bleed? Err... oil anyway.
07:29<johnasprey1>almost as if you knew
07:29<sean2009>what you were saying.?
07:29<johnasprey1>hehe
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07:30<johnasprey1>what are bots?
07:30<sean2009>dont know
07:30<johnasprey1>send me that file you talked about
07:30<sean2009>ok here it comes
07:30<johnasprey1>got it yet
07:30<sean2009>yes
07:31<johnasprey1>is that your mum
07:31<sean2009>no its my girlfriend stacy
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07:31<johnasprey1>heh shes nice
07:31<sean2009>i know lucky me
07:31<johnasprey1>hehe
07:31<johnasprey1>are we the only ones talking in here
07:31<sean2009>looks like it
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07:31<johnasprey1>is there anyone else here
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07:31<sean2009>no theyre all asleep
07:32<oktay-lxde>which port has irc.gnome.org ?
07:32<johnasprey1>so wake them up
07:32<sean2009>how?
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07:32<johnasprey1>i dont know
07:32<sean2009>well say something
07:32<johnasprey1>anyway that flu thing
07:32<sean2009>you mean swine flu
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07:32<johnasprey1>yer
07:33<johnasprey1>its getting worse
07:33<sean2009>i know it is its already over here
07:33<johnasprey1>where?
07:33<sean2009>usa
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07:33<johnasprey1>nice
07:33<amphi>please take this to #end_of_civilisation_as_we_know_it
07:33<sean2009>i m leaving
07:33<johnasprey1>ok bye
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07:34<johnasprey1>thank god hes gone
07:34<johnasprey1>hehe
07:34<johnasprey1>now where did i put that chat screen
07:34<johnasprey1>?
07:34<johnasprey1>yes were all doomed
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07:39<Pioter>hi
07:40<Pioter>anyone made php4 + php5 working on Lenny and apache2 without problems? asking coz no more php4 inside debian 5.0
07:40<bzed>Pioter: you DO NOT WANT php4.
07:40<Pioter>eheheh
07:41<bzed>you don't want php at all, but
07:41<user01>just use php 5 it's better
07:41<user01>^^
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07:41<seanius>Pioter: you can't use both apache modules at the same time for php4/php5
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07:41<bzed>Pioter: the only option to use php4 together with php5 is to run one of them as fastcgi
07:41<bzed>Pioter: but... DON'T USE PHP.
07:41<Pioter>bzed: i do use php5, but friend of mine need php4 + php5 on one server coz of shitty scripting he gots. That used to work on 4.0
07:42<Pioter>on Sarge 4.0
07:42<petern>what's sarge 4.0 ?
07:42<bzed>Pioter: such old stuff should be updated. and not used anymore
07:42<Pioter>debian 4.0 aka sarge
07:42<seanius>Pioter: if you really must, install php4 from source in /usr/local, but you can't have both running at the same time as apache modules
07:42<bzed>Pioter: 4.0 is etch.
07:43<Pioter>bzed: sorry, etch :) thx
07:43<bzed>Pioter: and it was mentioned in the atch release notes that php4 is deprecated and iwll be removed...
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07:43<Pioter>seanius: thanks that's what i was lookin for :)
07:44<Pioter>bzed: i do know it's removed and i do know 5.0 is much better, but sometimes we need things we don't want ;)
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07:44<bzed>Pioter: yeah, you need to rewrite that sutff in python :P
07:45<Pioter>10x a lot :) gr8 day 4 ya :) ciao :)
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07:45<petern>heh
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07:49<barah>bonjour a tous
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08:10<ringo999>hi, i build my own kernel and now i tried to install it with dpkg -i "kernel". However, when I restart my system is still at 2.6.26 instead of 27. Why could that be? I'm using lilo...
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08:11<Cyorxamp>Lo can I use "deb http://user:pass@apt.mysite.com/ stable contrib non-free" on my own repo if I put directory protection on it?
08:12<Cyorxamp>it's just I want to put things I've bought like cedega and crossover on it - so it's not for public pirating :)
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08:29<Tcl>hello how i get connected to internet ..i am useing an usb modem (dialup)
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08:30<amphi>Tcl: which one?
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08:30<Tcl>wirless mobile netatick
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08:31<Tcl>wirless broadband
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08:32<Tcl>i do thiss in terminal <dmesg | less > and no PPP line on
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08:33<amphi>Tcl: sorry, no idea about that
08:34<Tcl>that is the boot msg
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08:34<pumuklee>lsusb ?
08:34<rutski>where does alsa get its options for if I don't have an ~/.asoundrc?
08:34<rutski>basically I want to take ALL of the default options
08:34<rutski>and dump them into ~/.asoundrc
08:34<rutski>so that I can then modify
08:34<Tcl>hmm.. i guess Debian have prroblams with wirless broadbaand connections
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08:35<amphi>Tcl: device support is a kernel issue
08:36<amphi>Tcl: if there's no driver in the debian kernel, perhaps you can find an out of tree driver you can build
08:36<Tcl>yea ...but i install Debian :)
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08:38<Tcl>do u have a cod or something to help me build ?
08:38<amphi>I have no cod
08:39*robot313 pokes simonrvn
08:40<robot313>I don't have a cod either but I have tilapia if that helps
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08:42<pumuklee>Tcl, ndiswrapper ?
08:42<pumuklee>with ndiswrapper you can install windows driver for wireless devs
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08:43<Tcl>windows driver ? in the other pc-s is working ( runing ubuntu)
08:43<Tcl>without windows driver ..
08:46<pumuklee>then use ubuntu :] i haven't any idea
08:46<Tcl>pff..nice
08:47<pumuklee>the official site ? there not any driver ?
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08:47<Tcl>i guess is the Kernel .....
08:48<Tcl>i will take a look and let u know if something is new :) thx
08:49<robot313>I have an issue with gpg
08:49<XaF>has someone already patched is kernel with grsecurity ? was it with the debian package ?
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08:51<robot313>http://home.earthlink.net/~robot313/gpg.jpg
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08:53<ghantoos>robot313: the URL may be broken
08:53<robot313>mmmm, well I just uploaded it. But it works for me
08:53<amphi>Tcl: what is the driver ubuntu uses? that would be a start
08:54<robot313>ghantoos: do you get 404?
08:55<ghantoos>robot313: nope, I'm able to load the page
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08:55<Tcl>i am not sure ..coz ..is on Neetwork connections u have edit conn. and u can edit your Mobile Broadband
08:56<robot313>you said URL may be broken?
08:57<ghantoos>exactly, i didn't say "is broken"
08:57<ghantoos>I meant, may be you were not able to reach the URL
08:58<ghantoos>robot313: it actually seems to be a bug
08:59<ghantoos>robot313: that was reported today
08:59<ghantoos>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23525962
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08:59<zxd>hi
08:59<zxd>I keep getting "Host key verification failed." in ssh
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09:01<SlimeyPete>zxd: that means the key on the host you're connecting to has changed
09:01<zxd>what key
09:01<SlimeyPete>if you can verify that this is to be expected (by asking the administrator) then I think just removing the key from ~/.ssh/known_hosts will fix the error
09:02<SlimeyPete>the ssh public key
09:02<zxd>it's a different key
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09:02<SlimeyPete>yes...
09:02<zxd>I don't have it
09:03<SlimeyPete>have you removed the old key from known_hosts?
09:03<zxd>I found the problem
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09:10<robot313>ghantoos: it works on my home install. But I will look at the bug report
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09:11<maicom>ola
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09:12<ghantoos>robot313: it works for me too, i have libgnutls26 2.6.4-2 install
09:12<ghantoos>robot313: the bug concernes libgnutls26 2.4.2-6+lenny1
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09:16<ruanl>hellow everybody
09:17<ruanl>this my first come here
09:17<ruanl>有中国人吗
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09:20<bremner>!zh
09:20<dpkg>from memory, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
09:21<bremner>!jp
09:21<dpkg>jp is probably Japan
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09:21<bremner>!nh
09:21<dpkg>well, nh is neo-hippie, ask me about it
09:23<bremner>there is no language factoid for japanese? Or I just can't find it?
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09:27<zhxk>!ask
09:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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09:45<asaleem>why this perl one liner does not work
09:45<asaleem>perl -wnl -e '/xyz/ and print;' /etc/*
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09:47<@Myon>asaleem: works here
09:48-!-mode/#debian [-o Myon] by Myon
09:48<asaleem>Myon, but not for me, very strange
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09:48<Myon>there is probably no xyz
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09:49<asaleem>Myon, There is. I can find that with grep
09:49<asaleem>but not with this
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09:52<Cadmium02>Are there any GUI tools in Gnome to compare differences in 2 text files?
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09:53<adb>!tell Cadmium02 about search
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09:58<bremner>what is the best tool in Debian to annotate PDFs? I know about xournal and okular.
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10:00<OdyX>bremner: tried pdfedit ?
10:00<bremner>OdyX: once a while ago. Confused me then. I will have another look.
10:01<OdyX>bremner: very confusing, but could work...
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10:02<Comma>hi
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10:03<Comma>advice please how can i copy some directories using ssh from one host to an other
10:03<petemc>scp or rsync
10:03<Comma>judd info scp
10:03<petemc>its part of ssh
10:04<petemc>scp -vrC dir/ user@host:dir/
10:04<tarzeau>i use rsync -av ./ anotherplace:/here/
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10:04<www_Kernel_sh>I would like to ask how to apply for IRC??
10:04<petemc>www_Kernel_sh: you dont need to apply - you're here already!
10:04<tarzeau>rsync has a big advantage over scp that when it aborts, you can continue (great when you have like 5000+ mb of data)
10:05<tarzeau>petemc: no? he doesn't need to fill the form? ;)
10:05<petemc>free to all :)
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10:06<www_Kernel_sh>Thaanks
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10:09<www_Kernel_sh>I would like to apply for an IRC. . Some other technical,, Where can apply for
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10:10<www_Kernel_sh>?
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10:14<bremner>OdyX: thanks, pdfedit has definite possibilites. I wish I could figure out how to select a word or break up pdf text "chunks"
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10:22<desja004>could someone recommend a lightweight gtk2 music player that is capable of retrieving podcasts?
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10:22<llutz>desja004: Audacious
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10:26<Tcl>z/media/cdrom0
10:26<Tcl>ups
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10:38<Tcl>wirless mobile broadband help
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10:40<punk>hello
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11:02<FatCat>whats up
11:03<logdaddy>quiet today
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11:11<FatCat>yeah it it
11:11<FatCat>is* im sshing from school
11:12<FatCat>why is bitchx not included with apt?, i hate irssi
11:12<bremner>!bitchx
11:12<dpkg>BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>. Abandoned by upstream, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373.
11:13<mtc>hehe - that's it - I am switching to irssi today
11:13<Gekz>lol
11:13<Gekz>bot win
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11:13<FatCat>its not as good? that sounds pretty biased
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11:13<bremner>FatCat: feel free to become new bitchX developer
11:14<Gekz>because informed technical opinions are biased.
11:14<FatCat>lol im not trying to argue with anyone i didnt mean it like that
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11:14<ranix>FatCat: bitchx is objectively bad
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11:15<FatCat>i like the way the commands are set up and the way it looks, and the "annoying" quit messages
11:15<ranix>FatCat: compile it from source if you have to, but don't whine about your system getting rooted by that dcc overflow bug or become annoyed when people /ignore you for your obnoxious /quit messages
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11:16<FatCat>we're getting off on the wrong foot guys, im really not here to argue, sorry
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11:17<ranix>it wasn't my intent to sound disrespectful
11:17<mtc>there... goodbye xchat!
11:17<ranix>my vehemency is related to the severity of the security vulnerabilities in bitchx
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11:17<FatCat>all good all good. i was unaware of all that stuff, i wont consider using it now
11:18<ranix>I moved from bitchx to irssi myself and now prefer irssi, so good luck ;)
11:19<FatCat>is this for channel for debian or help related stuff only or is anything fair game?
11:19<ranix>there's #debian-offtopic if you think it strays too far
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11:20<amphi>there was a brief fish excursus earlier...
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11:20<ranix>amphi: the babel fish absorbs the brain waves of individuals in its vicinity, you know
11:20<bja>FatCat: I think that something related to Unix in somewhat vague way to Debian is fair play, the discussion of the swine flu i thinks it is definetly off-topi
11:20<bja>c
11:21<FatCat>haha, i dont think its too far. are you guys devolpers of my wonderful?
11:21<FatCat>the swine flu eh?, sounds exotic
11:21<FatCat>wonderful distro i didnt finish
11:21<zhxk>ALL: any body lack of money, contact to me, I lead you to Somalia to fetch some trueasure
11:21<logdaddy>unless there were a swine flue debian virus
11:22<zhxk>ALL: any body lack of money, contact to me, I lead you to Somalia to fetch some trueasure
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11:22<amphi>ranix: ;)
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11:23<FatCat>man this class sucks major butt, im done with all my work
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11:23<logdaddy>yeah, but it beats working for a living.
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11:24<FatCat>yeah i agree. ill be out of hs in a month and ill have to experiance that unfortuneatly
11:25<logdaddy>I'm actually working on some generic chat clients - and this room had some good traffic to monitor for testing :-)
11:26<FatCat>on lenny, what flash player is installed by default?
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11:28<cahoot>none
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11:31<FatCat>i see i see. mine is really laggy on youtube and porn and stuff, and i dont want to install any macromedia products because i think it defeats the purpose of using ice weasel
11:31<FatCat>what do you guys reccomend?
11:31<FatCat>reccomend
11:32<zhxk>!ops
11:32<dpkg>hmm... ops is Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban.
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11:40<FatCat>come to butthead
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11:41<johns>Hm, I keep seeing Unknown error, message=exec /bin/bash -o pipefail -c 'dpkg-query --show --showformat="\${status} \${provides} \${package}\n" | sed -n -e "/installed\|triggers-awaited\|triggers-pending /{s/^.*\(installed\|triggers-awaited\|triggers-pending\) *//; s/[, ][, ]*/\n/g; p}"'
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11:41<johns>after Processing triggers for menu, when installing anything via apt-get
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11:44<logdaddy>test
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11:45<FatCat>anyone else use fluxbox?
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11:45<ranix>!anyone
11:45<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> <search>
11:46<FatCat>oh, sorry
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11:53<paggas>will there be a stable 2.6.28 kernel, or will testing move directly to 2.6.30?
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11:59<Zathraz>Hi. Bug #502189. There is an issue in libc6 2.7 which will be resolved in 2.8. 2.7 is in Lenny 2.9 is in Sid. Anyone any idea if and when 2.8 will be released for Lenny please?
12:00<cahoot>FatCat: the generic answer is mplayer
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12:01<FatCat>oh right on. is any one here a devoloper of debian?
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12:02<OdyX>Zathraz: 2.8 will not be released for lenny
12:02<Zathraz>Snif. ldd is a problem
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12:03<Boghdan>Hello every1! 've got a problem in Debian Lenny KDE3. Every time i restart my PC, dns settings get dropped and i have to reset them every time in Control Center... Does any1 know what could the problem be and how can it be solved?
12:03<Zathraz>OdyX, why? Will 2.9 be released or will this issue remain for the next years until the new release?
12:04<Zathraz>Boghdan, dhcp overwrites /etc/resolv.conf : ahs nothing to do with KDE
12:04<Zathraz>*has
12:04<Zathraz>dirty way: make resolv.conf not writable
12:04<mjt>Zathraz: it will not work
12:04<cahoot>Boghdan: try /msg dpkg fix resolv.conf
12:05<OdyX>Zathraz: it is a bug considered as "minor" => absolutely NO chance to get it in a stable release
12:05<mjt>Zathraz: (unless you mean immutable)
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12:06<mjt>!tell Boghdan -about fixresolvconf
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12:07<Zathraz>Hmm. Pitty. It prevents running VIclient.exe (vmware managementtool) from wine which is the only more or less properly working management app
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12:08<Zathraz>euh. Let me rephrase that: it prevents vmrc running. VIclient does not run well either
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12:08<bja> /part
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12:19<FatCat>bye guys
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12:22<beer>hi
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12:24<Zviper>someone tell me if this is bad or good?
12:24<Zviper>make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
12:24<Zviper>make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
12:24<Zviper>trying to install rtorrent
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12:27<locklace>Zviper: it's neutral
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12:29<Zviper>hmm
12:29<Zviper>when removing a directory how can you yes to all? e.x. rm: descend into directory `rtorrent-svn/trunk/libtorrent/extra/bt/.svn/text-base'?
12:29<Zviper>i am getting loads of questions
12:30<Zathraz>man rm
12:30<Zathraz>or use mc
12:30<koollman>Zviper: add '-f'. but be careful, you will someday remove something you didn't intended to
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12:30<Ru4>I have a swapfile of 6 GB. Is there a possibility to use 32bit java with that huge amount. All what I found until now, is that it is restricted to physical memory
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12:31<koollman>Ru4: no way to use more than around 3GB with a 32bit process. Less with java and the way it handle memory, iirc.
12:32<Zviper>what does Skipped '.' mean?
12:33<mjt>people usually use memory, not swap... ;)
12:33<Zviper>i did svn up -r 1038 and it said Skipped '.'
12:33<Ru4>thank you koollman - I was hoping there is a chance ...
12:34<Ru4>mjt: I would use memory, but it always tells me that the heap size is to small
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12:35<mjt>so your app does weird things.
12:36<Ru4>no - just a big bunch of permutations and calculations
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12:38<bja>themill: Hello
12:38<Ru4>maybe I can use some parallelization of computers? like with PelicanHPC
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12:44<obrerox>what IRC is spanish?
12:44<obrerox>xd
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12:44<adb>!es
12:44<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:45<obrerox>thanks
12:45<adb>np
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12:54<InkBottle>Hi, I've got a ./configure script that complain about a 'No package 'libdrm_nouveau' found'; I've created a nouveau-drm_2.4.9.perso-1_amd64.deb, in my home using check install
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12:55<zhxkII>anybody can help:my host runs xp, i put a grub4dos binary to c:\ and add an item to c:\boot.ini, and put a c:\menul.lst, then i install debian to /dev/sda8 through vmw, and install it's own grub to /dev/sda8, all works well to vmw, but i can't boot to the real machine to debian envirement
12:55<InkBottle>any hint about what's going on?
12:55<zhxkII>anybody can help:my host runs xp, i put a grub4dos binary to c:\ and add an item to c:\boot.ini, and put a c:\menul.lst, then i install debian to /dev/sda8 through vmw, and install it's own grub to /dev/sda8, all works well to vmw, but i can't boot to the real machine to debian envirement that i just installed
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12:56<zhxkII>inkbottle: it stops after load the kernel
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12:58<zhxkII>I don't know how ubuntu did, it can work
12:58<cahoot>stick to one channel
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12:59<zhxkII>cahoot: what should i do?
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12:59<Guest2503>i run aptoncd on jaunty with this error :fatal -> failed to fork
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13:00<koredom>somebodys knows how to install fish for xchat?
13:00<cahoot>zhxkII: sorry no idea never use windows
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13:02<zhxkII>cahoot:which os do you us?
13:02<cahoot>debian
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13:03<zhxkII>cahoot: so, i guess some hardware configuration changed that prevent debian from boot up
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13:04<erKURITA>zhxkII really?
13:04<zhxkII>cahoot:i once did a LFS and it can boot in twoo envirenment
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13:05<erKURITA>as in, from a(n dist-| )?upgrade ?
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13:05<zhxkII>erKURITA: do you think that debian fetchs a diffrent partition UUID?
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13:06<cahoot>zhxkII: why not let grub be the bootloader for both os'es?
13:06<logdaddy>.
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13:06<zhxkII>erKURITA:ubuntuu can be boot in diffrent hardware configurations
13:06<erKURITA>zhxkII I doubt so. In fact, mine doesn't boot by drive UUIDs
13:06<erKURITA>it can use them, but I think it's most pointless
13:07<Tcl>any1 knows how i can update my nm-applet from 0.6.66 to 0.7.0 or greather ?
13:07<Tcl>any1 knows how i can update my nm-applet from 0.6.6 to 0.7.0 or greather ?
13:08<cahoot>Tcl: the missing info is you run lenny?
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13:08<adb>!tell Tcl about bpo
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13:09<bja>!tell bja about vmware
13:09<Tcl>ups yes Lenny
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13:09<tuxit>how to improve the boot on jaunty?
13:09<themill>network-manager isn't going to be something you find on bpo
13:10<themill>tuxit: try #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
13:10<tuxit>thanks
13:10<zhxkII>cahoot:I set the mbr the default data that boots to the bootable partion, which boots windows, i add an item to boot.ini so that i can choose to boot to grub4dos binary that is put at c:\, and it reads c:\memu.lst which configure to boot to /dev/sda8 where installed another bootable grub that debian install cd intalled, that loads the kernel and img file and boot to debian desktop well in a vmware envirenment
13:11<cahoot>zhxkII: ok you obviously know a great deal more than me about this - as I said I don'r know how to run windows etc
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13:12<logdaddy>.
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13:13<zhxkII>cahoot:I set the mbr the default data that boots to the bootable partion, which boots windows, i add an item to boot.ini so that i can choose to boot to grub4dos binary that is put at c:\, and it reads c:\memu.lst which is configured to boot to /dev/sda8 where installed another bootable grub that debian install cd intalled, that loads the kernel and img file and boot to debian desktop well in a vmware envirenment. well ubuntu do well, but i don't know whay fedor
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13:13<cahoot>I guess I'm speaking to a bot
13:14<zhxkII>cahoot:well, everythgin goes well, before decompressing the kernel image
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13:15<logdaddy>.
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13:16<zhxkII>cahoot: you are speaking to me
13:16<Tcl>let me re...q:)..how i install nm-applet 0.7.0 or the latest on Debian(501 Lenny)?..thx :)
13:16<zhxkII>cahoot:what should i do?
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13:18<Tcl>the nm-applet 0.7.0 up have the Mobile Broadband configuration incl. in Edit Connections section
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13:21<Tcl>for 3 days i am trying to connect a usb moden Netstick Mobile Broadband on a Debian Lenny ...pfff...(ubuntu have included on nm-applet)
13:21<Tcl>!tell Tcl MobileBroadband
13:22<cahoot>Tcl: what device?
13:22<Tcl>:Usb Nestick
13:22<cahoot>huawei? hso?
13:22<erKURITA>!tell Tcl about self-tell
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13:23<Tcl>cahoo not sure hso i guess
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13:24<Tcl>erKURITA thx :) got it:)
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13:24<cahoot>Tcl: plug it in and see if lsusb gives you its usbID
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13:25<logdaddy>.
13:25<Tcl>lsusb ..nope
13:26<Tcl>dmesg|less did see it
13:27<cahoot>nothing like Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0af0:6971 Option ?
13:27<Tcl>13 types
13:28<Tcl>i see it now
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13:29<Tcl>Bus 007 Device 002 ID 08ff:1600 AuthenTec, Inc. AES1600
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13:30<cahoot>that usbID corresponds to a webcam
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13:31<Tcl>i have 13 Bus lines
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13:32<cahoot>Tcl: unplug/replu the stick and look for any change?
13:33<Tcl>nice yep
13:33<Tcl>Bus 005 Device 008: Id 1821:0914
13:33<Tcl>when i unplaug this is gone
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13:34<Tcl>when i replug the line is up
13:34<Tcl>Bus 005 Device 008: Id 1821:0914
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13:35<cahoot>Tcl: sadly enough the only googlable result is in cyrillic
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13:35<Tcl>i guess i have to re install Ubuntu then ?
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13:36<Tcl>is a Celcom like modem
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13:36<cahoot>Tcl: try modprobe hso and see if it comes to life
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13:37<Tcl>command not found
13:37<cahoot>as root
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13:38<Tcl>FATAL: Module not found
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13:40<cahoot>Tcl: ok maybe ubuntu is the one for you
13:40<themill>hso is not in the lenny kernel....
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13:40<themill>judd kconfig hso
13:40<judd>themill: Searching for 'hso' in lenny kernel config gives no results.
13:40<themill>judd kconfig hso --release trunk
13:40<judd>themill: Searching for 'hso' in trunk kernel config gives USB_HSO=m.
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13:40<cahoot>I'm not even sure it's really hso he needs
13:40<themill>:)
13:41<Tcl>cahoot :) u did a great jobb trying to help a noob :) thx
13:42<Tcl>all i need is a nm-applet higher then 0.7.0
13:42<Tcl>and the in menu of Network Manager 0.7.0 have Mobile broadband setup :)
13:43<cahoot>Tcl: right - just that I suspect the way to get hold of that is too hard atm
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13:43<oktay-lxde>judd debian iso
13:43<judd>oktay-lxde: Error: "debian" is not a valid command.
13:44<Tcl>Debian is more stabile on a laptop then Ubuntu thats why i am trying Debian :)
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13:55<cahoot>Tcl: well doubt you'll be able to install the wanted version of nm, it's perfectly doable to use the device without nm, you need find out what module it uses. Possibly by booting a ubuntu livecd and see what module is loaded for the device
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13:55<Nazcafan>hello
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13:57<Tcl>cahoot ..that is what i am going to do :) thx :)
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13:57<bja>Can someone help me to nuke the vix application from the vmware server, I used to run vmware server back on Sarge, no problem at all, this new Vix server will only work through a browser, therefore not able to startup the vm at all. I'm frutstrated, have lots of work and i want to hit someone grhhhh
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13:58<bja> kvm won't work and qemu is having some trouble with the video :(((((
13:58<locklace>!beer bja
13:58*dpkg pours a pint of Spaten Pils for bja
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14:00<bja>locklace: thanks for the beer
14:00<enouf>bja: i don't know what a vix server is, but why won't kvm run? thought about xen, or vbox, or openvz even?
14:00<bja>I'll take my time to savour it. :P
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14:00<Nazcafan>I don't know what is wrong, my computer goes to hybernate every now and then
14:01<enouf>Nazcafan: remove the hibernate pkg?
14:01<locklace>Nazcafan: that's what you get for having a bear-bones system
14:01<enouf>check /etc/acpi*/* ? and even /etc/defaults/* ... cat /proc/cmdline
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14:01<Nazcafan>bear-bones ?
14:02<bja>enouf: kvm will not work because I have intel hardware and it spits "Exception 13 " with a lot of numbers, registers and all that debug information necesary to know what went wrong
14:02<enouf>bare
14:02<locklace>no, bear. ;)
14:02<enouf>bja: well, /msg dpkg kvm (you need vmx flag and to enable it in BIOS)
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14:03<locklace>bja: check with #kvm on freenode
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14:03<Nazcafan>enouf: I have no /etc/acp* file or dir
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14:03<enouf>i think there was 2 separate modules that needed loading - BTW, which kernel are you using?
14:03<bja>locklace: Thats where i got the information, kvm wiki is broken exactly on that problem :(
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14:04<locklace>bja: so it's a known bug?
14:04<enouf>(that last was for bja)
14:04<Nazcafan>enouf: which /etc/defaults should I check?
14:04<bja>locklace: Its a hardware bu
14:04<bja>g
14:05<enouf>Nazcafan: anything power management / acpi / suspend / hibernate related
14:05<cheako>bja: You mean the 'grep blah /proc/cpuinfo' from the Wiki has the correct output?
14:05<locklace>bja: with what exactly?
14:05<enouf>Nazcafan: hence; grep ;-)
14:05<bja> enouf: everything loads ok all modules are right, kvm will simply not run
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14:05<bja> cheako: yep thats even before you try to fiddle with it
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14:06<locklace>i thought it was working for you with the rescue disk image at the beginning
14:06<bja>Cheako: then you have to tell your bios to let Hardware virtualization to take place, another pain in the neck
14:06<bja>locklace: yeap the rescue disk works grea
14:06<bja>t
14:07<locklace>but when you try to run some other image you're hitting some problem that the kvm people told you is a hardware bug?
14:07<bja> but thats console stuff, perfectly with me, but then you find out you need mr. X11
14:07<locklace>you can use -vnc and connect to it that way, instead of letting it try to display directly using X or SDL
14:07<Nazcafan>!paste
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14:07<locklace>(i have to do that since X/SDL display totally fails for me)
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14:08<cheako>Just so every one knows kvm-intel is the name of the module.
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14:08<cheako>bja: qemu software emulation is not un-usable.
14:08<bja>locklace: You impress me what a memory :O
14:08<Nazcafan>enouf: http://paste.debian.net/34664/
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14:09<Nazcafan>enouf: I think it might be linked with my gnome session
14:09<bja>cheako: Well not unusable, its painfully slow ..... ..... .....
14:09<cheako>bja: I've found qemu with kqemu is slower in some cases.
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14:10<cheako>Only to start with, after it get's most everything recompiled it's fine.
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14:10<enouf>Nazcafan: i wouldn't know then since i don't use gnome - maybe gnome-power-[tab][tab], or gconf-editor, or gnome-control-panel ... just guesses
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14:12<Nazcafan>enouf: thanks anyway, I'll try to check that lead, but the gnome power management tool seems quite spartian an shows no sign of hibernation handling
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14:13<enouf>bja: video issues with .29 i can see - since one can have Xorg w/modesetting and kernel's modesetting disabled, but not vice-versa - though intel's integrated might be the only one that works so far - here; http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_29#head-e1bab8dc862e3b477cc38d87e8ddc779a66509d1
14:14<enouf>Nazcafan: docs can be found in /usr/share/docs/* if the man pages don't suffice
14:14<enouf>Nazcafan: there's also /msg dpkg gnome
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14:14<enouf>er /usr/share/doc/* (corrected)
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14:16<enouf>Nazcafan: one other thought; try to make sure it's not a _heat_related_hardware_ issue of some sort
14:16<enouf>i mean, i wouldn't expect it to actually/literally "hibernate" but i don't use portables either ;-)
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14:17<Nazcafan>enouf: this is a Desktop computer :-(
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14:17<enouf>heh - two words; BIG FAN! ... :-P
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14:30<Nazcafan>enouf: yes, I would be too, if it didn't go to hibernation every 5 min
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14:42<bja>locklache: the hardware bug makes for partial hardware virtualization, on amd chips everithing goes ok but since intel doesn't have that full capability, part of the hardware virutalization needs to be done through software. What i understood is that it is somewhat error prone due to the complexity of the operations. :(
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14:43<bja>loclace: just reasigned you a new nick hehe
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14:52<melkart>i think that i have no screensaver daemon running. it doesnt show up in "services" nor as a process in system-monitor. nevertheless my screen blanks out after approx. 10 mins of inactivity
14:52<melkart>where can i turn this off?
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14:53*robot313 pokes simonrvn
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14:54<simonrvn>what? what?
14:54<simonrvn>;p
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14:55<robot313>hey
14:55<robot313>well I don't know if you remember but I was here yesterday with the gpg key issue
14:55<robot313>where it says NODATA
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14:56<robot313>I even reinstalled debian to make sure I didn't mess something during install... still happens. It's weird because it's also installed at home and it works fine
14:56<erKURITA>robot313 you're saying that the key doesn't work ?
14:57<robot313>See this error: http://home.earthlink.net/~robot313/gpg.jpg
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15:03<erKURITA>robot313 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=31384&sid=12ba8015c717ded67eafc24c2cf4512c read this
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15:04<robot313>hmm
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15:04<robot313>must be intermittent
15:05<robot313>because I was in here yesterday with this issue, then I went home and it worked fine. But I'm back here at work and it is happening
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15:05<robot313>I'll give it some time then
15:05<robot313>Thanks for the link
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15:05<erKURITA>you're welcome
15:05<erKURITA>make sure to update your APT database every day
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15:26<stuckey>How do I make a seperate partition to hold files?
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15:30<dondelelcaro>stuckey: make a partition with fdisk or similar and initalize a filesystem on it with mkfs and then mount it (and shove it into fstab)
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15:32<stuckey>dondelelcaro: How do I make a partition with fdisk?
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15:33<dondelelcaro>stuckey: if you don't know how to use fdisk, use cfdisk instead, and man cfdisk for details
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15:35<stuckey>dondelelcaro: Can I man fdisk?
15:35<dondelelcaro>stuckey: sure, but it's not as well documented
15:36<stuckey>dondelelcaro: Can I learn how to use fdisk from it?
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15:36<dondelelcaro>stuckey: that's a question only you can answer
15:37<stuckey>okay I'm going to go read this; thanks
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16:41<ptr>Hi, folks
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16:42<PhyrPhly>OK. Who here has time to help me fix my install?
16:43<PhyrPhly>No one?
16:43<locklace>!ask
16:43<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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16:44<PhyrPhly>Ok. I can do that, but it will probably take some dedicated time to fix (if fixable).
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16:45<cahoot>you can't really book an appointment
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16:45<themill>One question at a time, one problem at a time. Different people will help for different bits depending on who's around.
16:45<PhyrPhly>I installed Debian off of a Network Install CD. I installed the standard IDE (I believe it is gnome).
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16:46<steffan>PhyrPhly: just state what you're experiencing :)
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16:47<PhyrPhly>I ran the update manager today and now I can't log into the user interface. I can only get a safe terminal to work.
16:47<PhyrPhly>I've been using the terminal and apt-get to try to fix gome, but I think I've made it worse.
16:47<PhyrPhly>**gnome
16:47*locklace . o O ( visions of terminal with white padded walls )
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16:48<jaimesilva>good afternoon everybody! Is gnome-volume-manager not working everywhere or only in some machines. Automounting of removable media is not working since March 26 as reported in bug #350639
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16:48<jaimesilva>sorry, I forgot a ? in my last message just after "machines"
16:49<steffan>PhyrPhly: any errors whilst installing gnome?
16:49<jaimesilva>some other people have reported the same problem but no debian-developer or package-maintainer has replied
16:49<PhyrPhly>I get a bunch of dependancies will not install when I try to run apt-get install gnome
16:49<cahoot>mixed versions/sources?
16:50<steffan>PhyrPhly: can you elaborate on 'bunch of dependancies'?
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16:51<PhyrPhly>Depends" gnome-themes-extras but is not going to be installed
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16:51<locklace>PhyrPhly: pastebinning some actual output would probably be a good idea
16:52<steffan>PhyrPhly: you should probably also paste you /etc/apt/sources.list
16:52<PhyrPhly>trying to find a way to get results onto this machine
16:53<jaimesilva>so, is gnome-volume-manager broken everywhere or only in some machines? can someone, please, tell me if automounting is working fine in his or her gnome desktop?
16:53<johns>gravity: btw, dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium console-setup does ask about keyboard layout
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16:55<gravity>johns: Ok, that makes sense
16:55<gravity>It's something you really can't probe and must ask the user
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16:58<PhyrPhly>I can't figure out a way to get my data from my linux box to this windows machine. :(
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17:00<cahoot>PhyrPhly: did you at any stage mix versions/sources? like adding unstable/sid to the sources.list?
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17:01<PhyrPhly>I did add sid to my sources.list
17:02<PhyrPhly>I've since commented it out and ran update and dist-upgrade.
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17:02<locklace>not that easy, alas
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17:05<cahoot>PhyrPhly: so the initial inability to enter the 'graphic DE' appeared after installing pkgs from sid?
17:05<PhyrPhly>no. after I ran the update manager to update the system
17:05<jaimesilva>no one can help me with my gnome-volume-manager problem?
17:05<PhyrPhly>However, I did have the sid entry in the sources.list when I did that.
17:06<cahoot>PhyrPhly: well if I understand you correctly you have a mixed system - I'd say a reinstall is the fastest way to sanity
17:07<ptr>I'm trying to upgrade from etch (i686) to lenny using aptitude dist-upgrade, and while everything else has succeeded, the new kernel package install fails in mkinitramfs-kpkg
17:07<ptr>"/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-amd64 points to /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-amd64"
17:07<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, you must downgrade
17:07<ptr>any idea what's going on here, and/or how to fix it?
17:07<cahoot>!downgrade
17:07<dpkg>methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>
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17:08<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, create or edit /etc/apt/preferences in order to make your current version priority > 1000 and then dist-upgrade
17:08<PhyrPhly>Ok. I'll give that a try.
17:09<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, is better than a full install if downgrade doesn't work then reinstall
17:09<PhyrPhly>preferences doesn't exist. What is the file format?
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17:09<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, man apt_preferences
17:10<PhyrPhly>wil do
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17:10<jaimesilva>please someone tell me if gnome is automounting removable devices!
17:10<jaimesilva>or is it broken everywhere?
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17:10<jaimesilva>I'm using Debian/testing
17:11<ghantoos>jaimesilva: it is "broken"
17:12<jaimesilva>It is not working in this laptop, last week I installed a Debian/testing desktop and it didn't worked either
17:12<ghantoos>jaimesilva: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520501#50
17:12<jaimesilva>thanks a lot ghantoos
17:13<ptr>any ideas? I'm flummoxed
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17:13<ghantoos>jaimesilva: no prb ;)
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17:14<ghantoos>jaimesilva: you can temporarely fix it your self following this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525183#30
17:14<jaimesilva>ghantoos, any idea on when will it be fixed?
17:15<ghantoos>jaimesilva: i repackaged it for my PC, but I have no idea when an official fix will be released
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17:15<ringo999>hi I have been trying to install a self built kernel using make-kpkg. Everything goes well, however, when I restart, I'm still stuck at the old one. The symbolic links for initrm.img and vmlinuz where also still pointing to the old kernel. Even changes those manually didn't help. Any idea?
17:16<jaimesilva>I don't see any debian packager or developer replying in those bugs
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17:16<ghantoos>I know :/
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17:17<chealer>ptr: meaning that it's a symlink to itself?
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17:18<jaimesilva>that's weird I've never seen that behavior in Debian, they always replied
17:19<chealer>ringo999: you mean you don't see your custom Linux image in grub?
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17:20<ringo999>chealer: im using lilo which uses a symbolic link
17:20<ringo999>chealer: i just purged the package and will try one more time to install
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17:22<PhyrPhly>I'm getting an error trying to downgrade debianutils from 3.0.1 to 2.30
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17:23<manuel>hi
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17:23<PhyrPhly>I think the error is because the package is trying to overwrite /usr/bin/sensible-pager
17:24<bja>PhyrPhly: Let's see if i get the picture straight, you had gnome running then you wanted more themes and then gnome broke down, right?
17:24<fmr>hello
17:24<manuel>i formated my external device with ext3 (320 gig) but i can only use 278 gig and see 293 gig wahts happend?
17:24<manuel>40 gb overhead is a little to much i think
17:24<PhyrPhly>I wasn't trying to get more themes, I was just running the update manager to get latest updates to installed packages.
17:24<fmr>Is someone have an idea why since I've reinstalled my Lenny I'm not able to run multiple instance of g++ using make -j ?
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17:25<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, then remove the package that owns /usr/bin/sensible-pager (dpkg -S /usr/bin/sensible-pager)
17:25<ghantoos>manuel: you can try limiting the superuser reserved blocks
17:25<PhyrPhly>jaimesilva: That's what I was thinking about trying. Wasn't sure if I'd break anything (more) doing that.
17:26<ghantoos>manuel: mkfs.ext3 -m 0.5 -L anyname /dev/sdX1
17:26<manuel>ghantoos: do you think this cause 40 gig of used space?
17:26<ghantoos>manuel: by default it is set to 5 (percent)
17:26<manuel>ok thx i will give it a try
17:27<ghantoos>manuel: you still have the journaling that takes up space
17:27<ghantoos>manuel: no prb ;)
17:27<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, just remember to reinstall later everything you uninstall
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17:28<zhxk>hello, what should i do after replaced my motherboard?
17:28<PhyrPhly>the package is sensible-utils and I get a warning about it being an essential package. Type 'Yes, do as I say!' to continue. Is that ok?
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17:28<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, maybe it will be better to reinstall
17:29<PhyrPhly>Then I will lose data on my drive, right?
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17:29<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, just back up and reinstall.
17:30<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, your other option is to stay in sid (unstable)
17:30<jaimesilva>PhyrPhly, you can enable unstable (sid) in sources.list, install gnome and when it is working, disable unstable and go back to testing
17:30<PhyrPhly>thanks. :)
17:31<jaimesilva>then eventualy, after a few weeks or months it will start to upgrade again when the current unstable packages get to testing
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17:38<stevewd>Hello
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17:40<stevewd>Is anyone available?
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17:40<stevewd>For 399 people is sure is quiet
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17:42<ghantoos>!ask
17:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org
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17:44<Stever_>Is there anyone breathing besides just me?
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17:45<kenyon>Stever_: No.
17:46<Stever_>Man for 400 IDs is sure is quiet.
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17:47<Stever_>OK. I will try it anyway
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17:47<Stever_>Does anyone know how to completely remove iceweasel
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17:48<bja>Two ways using aptitude or apt
17:48<Stever_>bja: I have tried with no luck
17:49<avu>Stever_, aptitude purge iceweasel
17:49<avu>Stever_, and if you also want the dotfiles gone, delete them by hand
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17:50<Stever_>avu: I want to blow it completely away.
17:50<avu>Stever_, yes, that's what that does.
17:51<Stever_>avu: when I tried the aptitude command it went through the motions.
17:51<zhxk>excuse me, how to see bootup logs?
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17:52<Stever_>avu: then I try apt-get install firefox and I get the "However the following packages replace it: iceweasel"
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17:52<avu>Stever_, yes. iceweasel replaces firefox.
17:52<Stever_>avu: it seems there is a reference somewhere in the configs telling apt-get otherwise.
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17:52<avu>zhxk, enable bootlogd (/etc/default)
17:52<Stever_>avu: I understand, but I am stuck on firefox.
17:53<avu>zhxk, it will write /var/log/boot.log
17:53<bja>zhxk: "dmesg" or "less /var/log/syslog"
17:53<avu>Stever_, there is not 'firefox' in debian
17:53<zhxk>bja:does them print the same thing?
17:53<avu>Stever_, iceweasel is the exact same program except for the name and the icon
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17:53<bja>zhxk: take a look for your self
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17:53<Stever_>avu: i'd like to keep current with version 3.0.10 of firefox versus v2 of firefox/iceweasel
17:54<avu>Stever_, the iceweasel version in lenny is the most recent 3.0.x release of firefox
17:54<avu>they just don't increase the version number the same way. the same fixes are applied
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17:55<Stever_>avu: can I use firefox extentions. I know the interface and/or language or something is different xlu or whatever.
17:55<ml|>Stever_: iceweasel = firefox
17:55<avu>Stever_, no there is no difference
17:55<ml|>Stever_: yes you can
17:56<avu>Stever_, as I said: the *only* difference is the name and the icon
17:56<avu>Stever_, that's it really
17:56<Stever_>avu: ok. I'll just use it then. I guess the next question is how do I reinstall it.
17:56<ml|>Stever_: avu is correct
17:56<avu>Stever_, aptitude install iceweasel
17:56<Stever_>ml and avu: as you can tell I am a newbie
17:56<avu>!tell Stever_ about grounding
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17:56<ml|>Stever_: np we where newb at one point
17:56<ml|>*all
17:57<Stever_>ml / avu: thank you.
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17:57<ml|>!tell Stever_ -about iceweasel
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17:58<Stever_>avu and ml: I just reinstalled it. :-)
17:58<ml|>cool enjoy
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17:58<ml|>Stever_: read messages from dpkg
17:59<Stever_>ml: ? about messages
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17:59<Stever_>avu: thanks for your assistance.
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18:00<ml|>Stever_: yes look at your irc client there should be a tab window open with the name dpkg
18:00<ml|>read those messages
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18:00<zhxk> excuse me what files in /var/logs/ logs boot-up-time information?
18:00<Stever_>ml: yes there is. pretty cool. now I am impressed. Ha.
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18:01<avu>zhxk, I told you, enable bootlogd
18:01<avu>zhxk, only then will all the messages be saved
18:01<Stever_>ml: thanks for the info.
18:01<ml|>np enjoy
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18:02<Stever_>ml: i'm impressed. don't know how you did that dpkg, but i'd get a headache if you'd told me.
18:02<themill>zhxk: and stew also told you on freenode.net. Please don't ask in both places at the same time -- it's rude and wastes everyone elses time.
18:02<Stever_>ml: one thing I do know....no more Ubuntu (don't kill me for saying that). yuk.
18:02<ml|>Stever_: it's easy wanno know
18:02<Stever_>ml: sure.
18:02<zhxk>avu: the file /etc/default is empty
18:03<avu>zhxk, it's a directory
18:03<avu>zhxk, containing, among other things, a file called 'bootlogd'
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18:04<zhxk>avu:i see it, change it to yes?
18:04<avu>23:59 < stew> zhxk: /var/log/boot ; see /msg dpkg bootlog
18:04<avu>maybe you should just do what stew suggested
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18:04<zhxk>what stew have suggested?
18:05<avu>read what I just pasted.
18:05<zhxk>avu:thnak you as well
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18:09<zhxk>avu:see /var/logs/boot then? it contains only few lines
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18:13<zhxk> excuse me how by what mean to read boot up logs?
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18:14<zhxk> excuse me how/by what mean to read boot up logs?
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18:19<jaimesilva>zhxk, use dmesg
18:19<jaimesilva>and /var/log/messages
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18:20<s_i_m>those are mostly kernel logs
18:21<zhxk>does it mean that if bootlogd can't log no other program can log eihter in debian?
18:21<zhxk>does bootlog contains messages?
18:21<jaimesilva>ghantoos, I did what you told and is working now but if I do "apt-get update" the package is replaced for the one in the repository, do you know how to avoid that?
18:21<zhxk>does bootlog contains messages and dmesg?
18:24<bja>zhxk: What are you looking for? your question has been answeared a few times.
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18:25<s_i_m>zhxk, the file /var/log/boot contains the messages of the initscripts that were executed on boot
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18:26<zhxk>bja:i'm looking for a way to find out what blocked the computer after print:"Begin:Wait for root filesystem ..."
18:27<s_i_m>zhxk, if that file is always empty in your case you must edit the file /etc/default/botlogd to allow for logging
18:27<themill>ahh.... that's not going to be in any log file.
18:27<bja>zhxk: Thats a completely different story.
18:27<s_i_m>true
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18:27<zhxk>s_I_m:yes, someone has told me , and i have enable bootlogd
18:28<zhxk>s_I_m:yes, someone has told me , and i have enabledbootlogd
18:28<themill>!waiting for the root filesystem
18:28<dpkg>If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> <uuid>
18:28<s_i_m>i see, but your problem starts earlier
18:28<bja>They solved the question you asked, that is not were you are going to solve your problem
18:28<themill>zhxk: see what dpkg just wrong, but you said something about having problems with your SATA controller and it being a hardware problem...
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18:29<zhxk>well, why need the kernel to wait for root filesystem?
18:29<jaimesilva>hehehe
18:30<zhxk>themill:my hardware is fine, its about driver problem
18:31<s_i_m>zhxk, please carefully read the dpkg message above first.
18:31<themill>for those playing along at home, this is the most coherent explanation yet:
18:31<themill>[21:24] <zhxk> greycat:yes, it is a hardware problem. you insatll a debian system with one motherboard, and you replaced the motheroard to another one that totally different in hardware configuration. so the kernel will freeze if it happend not have the new chip drivers to the replaced motherboard
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18:32*themill wanders off to do some real work
18:32<bja>themill: How did you do that? I've tried to enable logging on irssi and still no luck
18:32<zhxk>s_i_m:how to read dpkg message?
18:32<s_i_m>themill, well, for the windooz users that makes some sense.
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18:33<bja>zhxk: although themill is right, its not the only cause. In order to be able to help aditional information is needed
18:33<themill>bja: (a) konversation not irssi (b) it was still in the scrollback buffer so all I had to do was search backwards in the history (c) logging in konversation just works....
18:33<s_i_m>!waiting for the root filesystem
18:33<dpkg>If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> <uuid>
18:33<bja>themill: buahhhhhh
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18:33<s_i_m>zhxk, read that ^^^^^
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18:33<ghantoos>jaimesilva: what you can do is this
18:34<ghantoos>http://pastie.org/461808
18:34<ghantoos>(seems he's not here anymore)
18:34<bja>Anyone has anym
18:34<bja>matchex
18:34<zhxk>thank you s_i_m!
18:36<bja>s_i_m: where is a list of those nice !solution to world hunger commands??
18:36<zhxk>s_i_m:how to disable bootlogd then?
18:36<zhxk>s_i_m:i just forgot the pathname
18:36<s_i_m>zhxk, it is /etc/default/bootlogd
18:37<zhxk>s_i_m:thank you!
18:37<zhxk>s_i_m:should i replace yes with "No" or "no"
18:38<s_i_m>you can put just N there
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18:38<zhxk>s_i_m:and how to clean the logs it effected
18:38<s_i_m>you do not need to do that
18:39<zhxk>s_i_m:will the system rota them out?
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18:39<zhxk>s_i_m:will the system rotate them out?
18:40<s_i_m>zhxk, kind of. in debian logs are automatically rotated by default.
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18:41<bja>s_i_m: /etc/logrotate.d
18:42<zhxk>bja:thanks!
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18:43<Lenny1>hi
18:43<Lenny1>i have problem with muy DMraid mirror is posibol help plis
18:43<Lenny1> dmraid -tay
18:43<Lenny1>isw_ceejfghgff_Volume: 0 625137664 mirror core 2 131072 nosync 2 /dev/sda 0 /dev/sdb 0 1 handle_errors
18:43<Lenny1>isw_ceejfghgff_Volume2: 0 615160980 linear /dev/mapper/isw_ceejfghgff_Volume 9976365
18:43<Lenny1>isw_ceejfghgff_Volume5: 0 995904 linear /dev/mapper/isw_ceejfghgff_Volume 126
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18:44<Lenny1>sorry
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18:44<zhxk>excuse me, does debian support vmware display card service?
18:45<bja>zhxk: Sorry can't help there, just dumped vmware due to dispair, retaken qemu and working well :)
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18:46<s_i_m>zhxk, what do you mean by "display card service"? the virtual video adapter emulated by wmware?
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18:47<s_i_m>he went out =)
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18:55<deniz>if pidgin crashes lets say once a month of constant running, is that considered a bug?
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18:56<ed_debian>I am trying to write a python app. I installed the python-numpy package but I still can't use any of the functions that are supposed to be in it such as zeros()
18:56<ed_debian>(I imported numpy)
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18:57<simonrvn>ed_debian: ask in #python on freenode
18:57<ed_debian>k thanks
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19:01<zhxk>well, I do have booted my system by simplely correct the "Waiting for the root filesystem" issue
19:03<zhxk> !wait for the file system
19:03<zhxk>!wait for the file system
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19:04<arw>zhxk: can you «paste» what your systems says?
19:04<bja>!waiting for the root file system
19:04<zhxk>arw:cool
19:05<bja>!waiting for the root filesystem
19:05<arw>:)
19:05<dpkg>If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> <uuid>
19:06<zhxk>well, why it appears /dev/hda? in my virtual machine, and /dev/sda? in real machine?
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19:09<bja>zhxk: Your virtual machine uses a file on your filesystem, as a disk, it uses /dev/hda? independently of the device where the file is, that indeed is not a bug
19:09<zhxk>so cool of you!
19:10<bja>zhxk: qemu also uses this to map the devices it uses on the guest kernel.
19:10<zhxk>bja:i configure the virtual machine to use phisical disk
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19:10<zhxk>bja:i configured the virtual machine to use phisical disk
19:11<bja>zhxk: What is the size of your disk??
19:12<zhxk>lspci in a virtual machine reads at here:http://pastebin.com/m4c448fca
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19:14<bja>zhxk: line 5 of your paste tell that indeed its looking at hda? instead of something like this "00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 82801 SATA RAID Controller (rev 03)
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19:16<zhxk>bja:why ubuntu looks at it as sda? in the same envirenment?
19:16<bja>zhxk: it might be some bug on vmware, I would recomend to use a smaller disk for the vm and use the standard 2G file division of the space on virtual machine
19:17<bja>zhxk: What does lspci lists on ubuntu
19:17<bja>??
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19:17<themill>virtual machine != real machine. virtual devices != real devices. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine
19:18<zhxk>bja:the same content
19:18<bja>themill: You are right but then again to compile vmware you have to set the CC environment variable to the version of gcc you need
19:19<zhxk>bja:ubuntu pastes here:http://pastebin.com/m1e21c7b8
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19:20<zhxk>bja:themill works with vmware corp.?
19:20<zhxk>bja:themill works at vmware corp.?
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19:20<bja>zhxk: I really don't know, but he is a cool guy which will allways lend a hand
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19:21<abrotman>always?
19:21<themill>I never sleep.... that helps.
19:21<zhxk>abrotman:i've sovled the problem!
19:21<bja>zhxk: On line 10 there is a difference between the Debian and Ubuntu
19:21<abrotman>the english problem ?
19:22<s_i_m>=)
19:22<bja>abrotman: allways is define as the time i spend on this channel, if it happens to be the same as themill then its ok
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19:22<zhxk>bja:you so cared about that detail!
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19:23<zhxk>bja:you so cared to that detail!
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19:25<zhxk>bja:what have been hold to the line 10? is it the key problem that make /dev/?da? diffrent?
19:25<bja> zhxk: there is also another tiny detail, on ubuntu you are using 2.6.28-11 kernel, something different than in lenny which is 2.6.26
19:26<bja>zhxk: I don't know I'm just stating facts. The difference in kernels migh have something to do also
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19:26<zhxk>bja:yes, it seems the newer kernel can look at it as /dev/sda?
19:27<bja>zhxk: Then you at least have 3 hard disk 1 host, 1 debian and 1 ubuntu
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19:28<zhxk>bja:well, the fact is that i partitioned one hard disk to many swaps and ext3s, each for on distribution
19:29<zhxk>and configure virtual machine to use phisical hard disk as it's own
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19:30<rutski>I'm confused about something that seems fairly simple:
19:30<rutski>http://www.rutski89.com/static/confused.txt
19:30<rutski>I _THINK_ I'm in both the 'cdrom' and 'vboxusers' group, based on the contents of the /etc/group file
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19:30<rutski>yet I can chgrp a file to the 'cdrom' group
19:30<rutski>but not to the 'vboxusers' group
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19:31<djc>have you logged in since you were added to the vboxusers group?
19:31<djc>type '
19:31<djc>groups
19:31<djc>at the prompt
19:31<rutski>I'm soo confused (what am I missing here? I am admittedly a bit tired)
19:31<rutski>ah, nope; not via a login shell
19:31<zhxk>then i add items to menu.lst to point to different partitions, which the linux-dition-of-grub installs at the beginning of
19:31<rutski>brb
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19:32<zhxk>bja:do you comprehend?
19:32<rutski>djc: that worked :)
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19:33<rutski>although doing 'bash -login' did NOT
19:33<rutski>I wonder why
19:33<djc>something to do with initgroups
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19:34<djc>ok apparently k3b has nothing to do with my dvd burning problem.. even straight growisofs from cli dies with error
19:34<djc>http://paste.debian.net/34700/
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19:34<bja>zhxk: It's time to go and do some other things, I still have the vmware binaries on this thing, I also have an external hd at home, I'll try to reproduce your situation and I'll see you tomorrow
19:35<djc>just for grins, ive stopped hal and am trying again
19:35<djc>see if that changes anything
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19:36<djc>ok.. nope.. same error
19:36<djc>wtf
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19:39<zhxk>jdc:i mean i partition the real hard disk to manay partitions, then installs linux distributions at each partition, and install their grubs at each partition to boot it's own system. then i install a another special grub and configure its boot menu to boot at each partion.
19:39<SRV> Help... I am installing a new debian system (5.0.1) and I have no idea how to adjust the partition "sizes". For the default it is giving me 3 GB for /var and 20 GB for home. I need 3 GB for /home and 20 GB for /var. How to specify the partition sizes?
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19:39<djc>why on earth so much for /var ?
19:39<SRV>logs
19:40<SRV>This is more of a server.
19:40<djc>then instead of using 'auto partition', use manual
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19:40<SRV>I have used debian for years but this new installer is throwing me off (I'm used to the old curses menu partition stuff).
19:40<djc>back up until you get to where it offered that option
19:41<abrotman>Stevie!
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19:41<djc>you can still use the text based install too, you would have seen that option at the initial bootup screen
19:41<djc>in fact im sure even standard old fdisk is available
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19:41<SRV>djc: yes, I did see that and all it does is give you the EXACT options as the graphical install.
19:42<djc>im trying ti figure out if my dvd burner has gone shit or if something in debian has decided it doesnt like to let me burn anymore
19:42<SRV>It doesn't let you use fdisk or cdisk.
19:42<djc>there is still a selection "I will partition myself" vs "make the partitions for me"
19:42<zhxk>djc: as i let vmware to access phisical hard disk. i worry if each distributio may modify sth at /boot/menu.lst
19:42<SRV>djc: where is that?
19:43<zhxk>jdc: do you logger?
19:43<djc>zhxk, you are thoroughly confused, and I wasnt talking to you
19:44<djc>su -
19:44<SRV>Right now (I have done this a number of times, I'm starting over for the "n"th time... I just started the disk partition and the only option is "Guided partitioning"....
19:44<zhxk>djc:well, i know you are talking to others meanwhile
19:45<zhxk>.
19:45<djc>zhxk, ? I have no idea what you are trying to do, you didn't ask me a question, and to be honest judging from what you have said so far I'm not sure you'd understand if I tried to answer you anyway
19:46<djc>You dont want your virtual machine accessing your real hard drives, at least not the same ones that the host machine is using
19:46<djc>let them use virtual disks
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19:47<djc>if you dont want to do that, I cant help you, what you are trying to do is beyond your capability to understant
19:47<zhxk>djc:well, i let them use the same phisical disk, not virutal one.
19:47<djc>You dont want your virtual machine accessing your real hard drives, at least not the same ones that the host machine is using
19:47<djc>you *do* want to use virtual disks
19:47<djc>if you dont want to do that, I cant help you, what you are trying to do is beyond your capability to understant
19:48<zhxk>djc:well, actually it is the same one that host machine is using
19:48<djc>yes, that is a bad idea unless you are pretty expert at creating such a configuration. and if you are in here asking for help with it, thats pretty good evidence that you are not
19:49<zhxk>djc:the host just don't mount the partitions that specific to each distribution
19:49<djc>ok, sounds like you don't need any help then. Good luck
19:50<djc>you dont want to share *any* partions between the host and its guests
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19:51<djc>only one machine (one host, or one guest) should be mounting any given partition
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19:51<djc>my advice is to use virtual disks, store in a file on the host systems drive
19:51<zhxk>djc:yes you begin to understand what i said
19:51<djc>you can take my advice, or not
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19:52<zhxk>djc:i'm worrying about performance issues
19:52<djc>eg *do not* "let them use the same phisical disk"
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19:52<djc>then you shouldnt be using virtual machines
19:52<zhxk>djc:i don't know if it will get the virutal machines slower to use virtual disk files
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19:54<djc>sounds like you can pick between worring about it being slower, or worrying about the whole thing crashing down becuase you've corrupted the drives having multiple machines mount the same partition
19:54<djc>did you have a question?
19:55<djc>SRV, did you find the option to manual partition?
19:55<zhxk>djc: i want the virtual machine to bypass as much as possible to the host system. i don't know it will do, but i just want eacho virutal mahcine runs faster.
19:56<djc>zhxk, ok
19:57<zhxk>djc:well, i don't allow the host mount the partitions that is specific to virtual machines, and i only let each virtual machine to access it's own partitions
19:57<djc>zhxk, ok
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19:58<zhxk>djc:logger?
19:58<djc>zhxk, ok
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20:00<zhxk>djc:i saying logger,means "do you comprehend,and agree with my decision?"
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20:01<djc>I've already given you my advice. take it or leave it
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20:03<zhxk>djc:your advice is make virtual disks, well, the real machine won't boot into the just installed system in virtual mahcine then.
20:03<themill>Why use a virtual machine at all? Or do I not want to know...
20:04<djc>SRV, right after 'detect disks', it offers (im in the gui install), several 'guided' options, and also 'Manual'. thats where you want if you want to decide the partition sizes yourself
20:05<SRV>djc: I kind of found a way to swap the partition labels. So, it's all installing right now but I will look at that.
20:05<djc>zhxk, you dont want the real machine booting into the virtual machine
20:06<djc>virtual machines arent for making multi-boot systems
20:06<vook>I'm having some issues with a new install. I setup an LVM during the install, and within the VG are several partitions. I set root and boot to mount from a non-lvm space. On boot, the only node created for the lvm is /dev/mapper/grouplv (not grouplvp1 grouplvp2, etc...) My attempts to mknod those devices hasn't worked. Any ideas ?
20:06<djc>they are for emulating a 'virtual' machine while the host machine is running
20:06<SRV>djc: See, I was hoping to take the defaults and modify them to what I need, but it's either the defaults or manual all the way. Strange.
20:06<zhxk>themill:well, because i used to use xp system, and there are lots of win32 tools that i have found their linux edition yet.
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20:07<djc>zhxk, if you want to be able to dualboot between windows and linux, you dont need 'virtual machine', you just need to first install windoze, leaving space, then install linux in the free space
20:07<djc>then the grub bootloader will let you pick between windows and linux on bootup
20:07<djc>or, if you want to run linux, and have a windows 'vritual machine' at the same time, you can do that
20:07<djc>but use a virtual disk for the windows, not a physical disk
20:08<zhxk>djc:yes, actually
20:08<themill>(or just work out what the linux alternatives are and ditch win32 altogether. or try wine)
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20:08<djc>it is *really* a bad idea to try to use the same installation as both a vritual machine and a real machine
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20:08<djc>becuase the real hardware and the virtual hardware will be entirely different
20:08<themill>Especially when one of them is linux and the other windoze
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20:08<djc>windows probably wont even run. linux might run but will be suboptimal
20:08<abrotman>huh?
20:09<djc>well it will run fine in whichever machine (virtual or real) it was originally install in.
20:09<djc>but when you switch, it will become very confused
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20:09<themill>!confuse djc
20:09<dpkg>Yes, those are their snake today, djc? pants of the monarchy of tibet with extra cream
20:10*vook reconsiders the idea of setting up lvm during install, rather than after.
20:10<djc>it'd be like installing it on a dual-pentium machine with an intel chipset, and taking the hard drive out and putting it in an AMD-64 machine with an nvidia chipset
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20:10<zhxk>!confuse themill
20:10<dpkg>No, what are our hamster tomorrow, themill? lederhosen of the republic of micronesia with extra herring
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20:11<djc>anyone have any idea what might be causing growisofs to puke on me?
20:11<themill>hmmmm hamsters and herring
20:11<djc>http://paste.debian.net/34700/
20:12<zhxk>djc:what is "growisofs"
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20:13<zhxk>djc:comprehend
20:13<djc>zhxk, If you don't know what it is, then the question wasnt directed at you
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20:16<zhxk>djc:well, i have to work with linux system, but i get used to xp. so i have to boot into xp and start experimentals on virutal machine. eg. to build packages with gcc and do googles with maxthon
20:17<djc>zhxk, ok
20:17<amphi>maxthon?
20:18<djc>!cn
20:18<dpkg>[cn] China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
20:19<zhxk>amphi:yes, maxthon is a very convenient broswer to me. it runs on xp.
20:19<amphi>I'd not heard of it
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20:21<zhxk>djc: what should i do if i read messy code that !cn prints?
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20:21<zhxk>amphi:www.maxthon.com
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20:21<amphi>zhxk: thanks, but I have use for it
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20:22<amphi>.com sounds dodgy in any case ;)
20:22<zhxk>well, how to set to utf-8 in irc?
20:22*themill wonders what maxthon can do that the 31 other www-browsers in debian don't do.
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20:23<djc>the download is a .exe
20:23<zhxk>themil:well, maxhon is based on windows system
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20:24<amphi>"Maxthon is 100% free of viruses, spyware, adware" - how reassuring
20:24<themill>right... and this is #debian not #windows
20:24<zhxk>djc:it runs on Microsoft Windows
20:24<djc>zhxk, ok
20:25<djc>we dont really need to know what you are doing. if you have a question, let us know
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20:26<djc>if you dont have a question, well.. you probably want to just go on with whatever you are doing
20:27<zhxk>amphi:well, it has one function--you can register an account of it, and it will keep your favoritae items on their servers, so you can go to another computer, login to it, and have your favorite item on that computer. sounds like "movable favorate"
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20:28<amphi>I can remember my 'favorites',or if not, find them quickly
20:28<themill>foxmarks / xmarks does that for firefox/iceweasel and now MSIE too
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20:32<kit>do i need a swap partition with 8gb of ram?
20:32<freehood4all>kit: yes
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20:32<zhxk>themill, really? but another function-- when you want to google a keyword that appears on the web page your reading on maxthon, you just select it and "drag" it a little, maxhon will star a new tab that opens a google and googling for you.
20:32<kit>how big do you think i need to make it ?
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20:33<freehood4all>kit: 12-16gb
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20:33<djc>how big is your hd?
20:33<zhxk>themill:and what's more--you double click the tab, it close webpage the tab holds
20:34<djc>zhxk, nothing personal, but I don't think he cares.. he's also gone.
20:34<kit>the one i'm installing debian on to is 500gb with around 250gb dedicated to windows
20:34<djc>I don't care either.
20:34<djc>You'll find most people here have no interest in any Windows software
20:34<djc>kit, so 25g for debian? You'll want about 175G of swap
20:34<djc>er 250g for debian
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20:35<freehood4all>175gb of swap o_O
20:35<freehood4all>lol
20:35<kit>and 17.5g respectively?
20:35<djc>Heh
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20:35<djc>you want to use about half your entire drive for swap
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20:35<djc>or at least ten times you total amount of ram
20:35<freehood4all>kit: don't listen to djc
20:35<djc></prank>
20:35<kit>lol
20:35<freehood4all>ok lmao
20:36<djc>seriously, how much ram do you have
20:36<freehood4all>8gb he says
20:36<kit>8gb
20:36<djc>and what is the box to be used for?
20:36<djc>oh
20:36<djc>shit 8GB would be pleny for swap then
20:36<kit>it's just a home computer. maybe some software engineering, boinc, games occasionally, downloading torrents
20:36<Kevadu>With 8GB of RAM what do you even need swap for...
20:36<zhxk>djc:what i have bee said is the reason why i have to keep debian to be co-exits with windows
20:36<djc>if you've got 250G of HD, its not like it will hurt
20:36<kit>well, that's the question. do i even need a swap partition ?
20:36<freehood4all>I have a debian box with 8gb let me log in to see how much I have on mine...
20:37<amphi>zhxk: just for that browser?
20:37<djc>zhxk, ok, did you have a question? You were on talking about how great this maxthon was, but we dont care. if you like it then suit yourself
20:37<kit>i'm running windows without swap and i've run ubuntu without swap without any problems. only time my memory started getting used was when i got gpg doing something odd
20:37<djc>my/our advice for running windows in a virtual machine is to use virtual disks.
20:38<zhxk>amphi:not just for it, i explain the browser is for one example of why i have to use windows.
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20:38<freehood4all>kit: I have 12482464 of ram on mine
20:38<djc>we dont need to know why you want windows.. we dont care. you sounded like you were trying to convince someone here to use this maxthon thing
20:39<freehood4all>kit: sorry swap
20:39<zhxk>amphi:but i will "migrate" to debian little by little, not just because it's for free.
20:39<kit>so 12g... do you know if any of it is ever used ?
20:39<freehood4all>yes it is
20:39<djc>and I was just explaining that you werent likely to find anyone here who was remotely interested in it, or any other windows software
20:40<freehood4all>I have a raid 5 with 7 1.5TB drives on it though... which does a lot media serving and a little encoding
20:40<djc>especially since firefox/iceweasel can probably do anything it can anyway. but more so in that probably most people here dont run windows at all for anything
20:40<kit>ah, yea that could be why.
20:41<djc>kit, to be honest, if its just a workstation machine, and if you've got 250G of HD anyway, Id just go with 8g swap.. it certainly wont be too little; it might be more than you need, but who cares.
20:42<kit>in ubuntu there was a system monitor program that showed my ram was mostly cache and even then rarely exceeded 50%. if i give debian a swap i'm just worried it'll end up being slower while the processor copies ram to the swap partition and back when it doesn't need to.
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20:42<amphi>zhxk: good-oh
20:42<djc>i think the MM in the linux kernel is smart enough not to use swap as disk cache
20:43<zhxk>amphi:what do you mean?
20:43<kit>lol. i'll give it 8gb and keep an eye on it. i can always remove it later or add another 8gb from my 1tb disk
20:43<amphi>zhxk: good that you move to debian
20:43<amphi>kit: you can also use swap files, if you need more
20:44<djc>you arent going to need *more* than 8G
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20:44<djc>if you have so much running that it uses even half of that your system is already going to be crawling
20:45<kit>yea, lol. it is 3ghz dual core tho
20:45<Kevadu>That doesn't make reading the hard disk faster
20:45<djc>swap is one area it never hurts to have too much (unless you are low on HD space)
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20:45<djc>and 8G from 250 isnt much
20:46<kit>yea, if i ran out of space i could just burn a couple dvds
20:46<kit>thanks for your advice.
20:47<zhxk>amphi:well, i have to work wih linux, and be very luck to happen to CLFS and it mentioned irc and i googled to here, and get problems sovle by masters here
20:48<zhxk>djc is the experts
20:48<Kevadu>Does anyone have advice for installing Debian *to* a USB flash drive? Should I try to use the regular installer or just copy the files over from another computer running Debian?
20:48<djc>try it
20:48<djc>:P
20:49<djc>i'll note that flash memory doesnt like being rewirtten as often as a running system is likely to write to it..
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20:49<Kevadu>True, but I think I can minimize rewrites. No swap, limit the logging
20:49<Kevadu>I want to make a fairly limited system for only running a few apps
20:50<djc>hrm.. well I put in a different blank, and I'm trying wodim.. and im not sure if I left off a -v or something.. it hasnt given an error, the disc is spinning, but it isnt giving any progress.. but it could be working ;)
20:51<zhxk>ampi, some one in another #debian channel uses your name,are you the same person to he/she at freenode.org?
20:51<Kevadu>I know there are distros that specialize in this sort of thing, but I'd rather just run Debian
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20:52<amphi>zhxk: yes
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20:54<zhxk>djc:where are you from ?
20:57<bremner>Kevadu: there are several howto's Google "debootstrap"
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21:01<rae>uoouuuu
21:01<rae>anyone??
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21:01<zhxk>see you, good luck to all of you
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21:06<djc>!anyone
21:06<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> <search>
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21:06<djc>!asking
21:06<dpkg>if you have a question, don't ask "does anybody know about foo", don't ask if you can ask it... just ask it.. if somebody knows, they'll answer :) Just don't repeat your question
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21:06<rae>houuu,, gremio 3 X 0 boyacá chicó,,, invict leader of libertadores,,, future champion of the world....
21:07<djc>This is a support channel for Debian linux. did you need help with Debian?
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21:23<i3luefire>i am trying to compress my /usr file but when i try to run this command "mv /usr /usr.old in a root terminal it says i resource is busy
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21:37<cesurasean>Processing triggers for man-db ...
21:37<cesurasean>Setting up postgresql-client-8.3 (8.3.7-0lenny1) ...
21:37<cesurasean>/var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql-client-8.3.postinst: line 5: /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions: No such file or directory
21:37<cesurasean>dpkg: error processing postgresql-client-8.3 (--configure):
21:37-!-cesurasean was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
21:37<dpkg>cesurasean: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
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21:37<cesurasean> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
21:37<cesurasean>Errors were encountered while processing:
21:37<cesurasean> postgresql-client-8.3
21:37<cesurasean>anyone know how to fix this?
21:37<cesurasean>I removed those files by hand, and now apt won't uninstall it.
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21:44<cesurasean>anyone have a suggestion as what I should do to get this program removed out of apt's database that says it's installed?
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21:47<_gama>does debian run pretty smoothly and how noobfreindly is it?
21:48<_gama>if anyone cares to let me kmow
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21:55<dkr>!why debian
21:55<dpkg>Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian). As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian.
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21:56<xemacs4321>lol
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21:59<xemacs4321>how do i register my nick here ?
22:01<dondelelcaro>xemacs4321: /msg nickserv help register
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22:08<xemacs4321>dondelelcaro, thankyou
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23:45<Zviper>best debian ftp client?
23:45<Zviper>actually make that fxp
23:46<Zviper>best ftp client that supports ftp rather, what would it be?
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