| --- | Log | opened Sun Aug 09 00:00:13 2009 |
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| 00:03 | <nonent> | i've got a situation where i know the power is going to go out in my cage tonight. i want to properly shut down the server before this happens, but since i'm relying on "reboot on powerfail" bios setting, i want to shutdown without shutting power off. anyone know if this is possible? |
| 00:04 | <nonent> | (ie, kill all processes, unmount root, etc. |
| 00:04 | <southernc> | has it got a battery backup ? |
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| 00:05 | <nonent> | southernc no.. the ups is actually being replaced (faulty), which is why they have to shut off the power to the cage. |
| 00:06 | <southernc> | well if you knew exactly when they were going to shut it off you could run a crontab |
| 00:06 | <nonent> | basically i want to take the shutdown process to a point where if the server loses power, that's fine.. but without actually turning the apm power off. |
| 00:06 | <nonent> | southernc: i've got about a half hour window. |
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| 00:07 | <southernc> | so just make a bash script |
| 00:07 | <southernc> | or shut it down before they kill it |
| 00:08 | <nonent> | southernc sorry, must not be explaining myself. that's what i want to do. but if i type 'shutdown -h', it will power off my system. if i power off my system that way, it won't boot itself back when the power officially returns. instead, it will remain off, because the bios didn't detect a power failure |
| 00:09 | <nonent> | i'm fine with shuttiing it down well in advance. i just want it to come back up automatically when power returns. |
| 00:09 | <southernc> | other then wake on lan i have no idea (:0/ |
| 00:09 | <Slurb> | nonent: thats in the bios |
| 00:10 | <Slurb> | nonent: if at all |
| 00:10 | <craigevil> | wouldnt using the sysmagic keys other than b shut unmount and shut everything pretty much off |
| 00:10 | <craigevil> | resiu just not use b |
| 00:11 | <nonent> | Slurb: right. my choices are 'reboot on powerfail', or not. rebooting on powerfail works, but only if the power is on when the power fails. so i'm hoping to take my system to a state where nothing is running, no filesystems are mounted, but the power remains on, so that when the power returns the system has shut down cleanly |
| 00:11 | <southernc> | nonent just unmount the file system and it cant cause any harm |
| 00:11 | <southernc> | then let them kill the power |
| 00:11 | <nonent> | can i unmount root filesystem in singleuser mode? if i can, that'll do it |
| 00:11 | <nonent> | that's worth a try |
| 00:11 | <southernc> | and it will work like its supposed to |
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| 00:14 | <icebrain> | nonent: "mount -r -o remount /" should remount the FS as read-only, so you won't loose any data if it's turned off abruptly |
| 00:15 | <kapil> | nonent: in principle you can do also do "Alt+SysRq+S" followed by "Alt+SysRq+U" |
| 00:15 | <nonent> | hmm.. i just noticed this modifier for 'shutdown -h' in the man page ( -H: halt action is to just halt. vs -P: halt action is to turn off power.) |
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| 00:15 | <nonent> | i wonder if that will do it.. i'll try on a system i care about less |
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| 00:55 | <zimbres> | hi, I want to install lenny amd64 on my machine but I do not know witch file in http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/amd64/iso-cd/ should I download? I am going to use CD's |
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| 00:56 | <sney^> | zimbres: just use the CD 1, it will download the other files it needs later |
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| 00:57 | <sney^> | you could download all of the CDs but you'd be wasting a lot of bandwidth since you won't need all of the packages on each cd |
| 00:57 | <zimbres> | sney, Do I get X window system installed? |
| 00:58 | <sney^> | the KDE CD1 should have everything you need for a desktop environment |
| 00:58 | <sney^> | the regular CD1 has X on it but I'm not sure about the rest |
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| 00:58 | <leo_loco> | Hey |
| 00:58 | <leo_loco> | dpkg lenny |
| 00:58 | <dpkg> | hmm... lenny is the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-15: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.2>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 00:59 | <leo_loco> | i have a problem in a gnome |
| 00:59 | <leo_loco> | i use gnome and vnc4server |
| 00:59 | <leo_loco> | but , the gnome interface graphic is bugged |
| 00:59 | <leo_loco> | please help-me |
| 01:01 | <zimbres> | sney, And what about the netinst CD image, do I get X installed as well? |
| 01:01 | <sney^> | the netinst only has the base system, but it can download the X environment over the network |
| 01:01 | <kapil> | leo_loco: what do you mean by "the gnome interface graphic is bugged"? |
| 01:01 | <sney^> | if you select the "desktop environment" during install, it will download everything needed to have a gnome interface when the install finishes |
| 01:02 | <leo_loco> | kapil: yes , i'm used this command apt-get install gnome |
| 01:03 | <leo_loco> | apt-get install vnc4server |
| 01:03 | <leo_loco> | startx |
| 01:03 | <leo_loco> | and i'm login vnc , but the interface graphic is " bug " i click in the buttons but no working |
| 01:03 | <zimbres> | sney, My connection is very slow at the time. Do I have to have ip, gateways numbers to configure after installation? |
| 01:03 | <leo_loco> | sorry my bad english |
| 01:03 | <leo_loco> | i'm from brazil |
| 01:04 | <sney^> | zimbres: if your network card is supported by linux and your network uses dhcp, it will work automatically the same way it does in windows |
| 01:05 | <sney^> | and individual binary packages are very small compared to downloading entire CD isos. big stuff like X and Gnome can take time but remember this system was originally designed when everyone was using dialup |
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| 01:06 | <zimbres> | sney, I thank you for your help. I am going to download cd 1, it seems to more suitable for my needs. |
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| 01:09 | <leo_loco> | kapil http://201.86.250.161:8080/errorlinux.jpg |
| 01:09 | <leo_loco> | this is error |
| 01:12 | <zimbres> | sney, Just one final point, amd64 is the right one for my intel quad core, right? |
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| 01:13 | <cantido> | zimbres: if you want a 64bit system, yes |
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| 01:14 | <legnaleurc> | Why there are new packages 'wine-unstable'? |
| 01:14 | <zimbres> | cantido, What would make me want a 32bit version? |
| 01:14 | <legnaleurc> | Is it upload to replace original wine? |
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| 01:15 | <leo_loco> | legnaleurc talk c/me? |
| 01:15 | <legnaleurc> | leo_loco, I update packages today, and 'wine-unstable' suite uploaded ... |
| 01:16 | <leo_loco> | legnaleurc: but , i login with vnc4server |
| 01:16 | <legnaleurc> | leo_loco, Mark also uploaded new (or old) ia32-libs for unstable |
| 01:16 | <leo_loco> | why soluctions |
| 01:16 | <leo_loco> | apt-get install wine-unstable? |
| 01:17 | <cantido> | zimbres: maybe you have some software that doesn't run on a 64bit distro without major headaches,.. don't have 4GB+ of RAM and use no software that performs better with the processor running in long mode. |
| 01:18 | <legnaleurc> | no ... I just wondering if 'wine-unstable' will replace 'wine' in future |
| 01:18 | <southernc> | of course |
| 01:19 | <legnaleurc> | Why not remove or replace 'wine' from unstable directly? |
| 01:19 | <legnaleurc> | avoiding name conflict? |
| 01:19 | <southernc> | cause as of right now it hasnt been teasted throughly enough to be in stable |
| 01:19 | <southernc> | tested* |
| 01:20 | <southernc> | legnaleurc: the wine thats in unstable isnt the same version thats in stable |
| 01:20 | <legnaleurc> | will...upload to experimental then |
| 01:21 | <southernc> | !wine version |
| 01:21 | * | dpkg pours version a nice glass of Sauvignon Blanc |
| 01:21 | <southernc> | lol |
| 01:22 | <legnaleurc> | so maybe it will merge package name, when it is ready? |
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| 02:03 | <Everton> | e ai cara |
| 02:03 | <Everton> | ? |
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| 02:04 | <Everton> | ola!!!! |
| 02:04 | <Everton> | quem é vc? |
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| 02:11 | <drakeman> | !br |
| 02:11 | <dpkg> | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 03:17 | <bignose> | if I have ‘libc6’ installed, why would I also need (e.g.) ‘libc6-ppc64’? |
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| 03:22 | <kapil> | bignose: libc6-arch is optimised for arch |
| 03:22 | <bignose> | kapil: so why isn't it the default for the arch? |
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| 03:28 | <kapil> | its actually subarch. |
| 03:29 | <kapil> | for example libc6-i386 and libc6-i686 |
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| 03:36 | <amitav> | can I boot from a netinst image? |
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| 03:40 | <amitav> | i tried it many times last night, but i got the msg boot error. i am doubting both my technique and the image |
| 03:40 | <amitav> | please help |
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| 03:46 | <MikeChelen> | amitav, is boot from cd enabled in the BIOS? |
| 03:46 | <amitav> | MikeChelen: yes |
| 03:47 | <amitav> | MikeChelen: i interrupted normal boot and selected boot from cd |
| 03:48 | <MikeChelen> | amitav, can you boot other cds okay? |
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| 03:48 | <amitav> | MikeChelen: well ubuntu cd works fine |
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| 03:50 | <cahoot> | corrupt download or defect burn? |
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| 03:51 | <amitav> | cahoot: well downloading again lets see |
| 03:51 | <cahoot> | amitav: check the md5sum |
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| 03:55 | <enouf> | amitav: likely some crappy BIOS, and either a) emulation boot crap (either enabled in BIOS or used to burn CD ala floppy emulation), or b) just poor isolinux compatibility |
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| 03:55 | <enouf> | amitav: what CPU? from ~ what year? |
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| 03:56 | <enouf> | amitav: see if netinst will boot on another PC, if possible - which exact netinstall CD, 5.0.2? |
| 03:57 | <amitav> | enouf: r51 thinkpad |
| 03:57 | <amitav> | enouf: yh its 5.0.2 |
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| 03:58 | <enouf> | well - hrm .. still i think you burned bad, or whacko BIOS -- try ##ibmthinkpad on freenode - and see /topic to start |
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| 04:01 | <amitav> | enouf: well I do have the BIOS in the circle of doubt |
| 04:02 | <amitav> | enouf: how can I confirm |
| 04:02 | <amitav> | ? |
| 04:02 | <cahoot> | amitav: burnt the ubuntu disk on the same system? |
| 04:02 | <amitav> | enouf: its a centrino |
| 04:03 | <amitav> | cahoot: shall I check the md5sum of the cd or the iso? |
| 04:03 | <cahoot> | iso |
| 04:04 | <amitav> | cahoot: I had the ubuntu disk shiped to me |
| 04:04 | <cahoot> | I see |
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| 04:04 | <amitav> | cahoot: well I also tried a puppy iso and it worked fine. |
| 04:05 | <cahoot> | amitav: burnt on the same system? |
| 04:05 | <amitav> | cahoot: yes |
| 04:05 | <cahoot> | ok |
| 04:07 | <enouf> | older syslinux/isolinux like those found on older/outdated distros like puppy and DSL always work better |
| 04:07 | <amitav> | enouf: hmmm |
| 04:07 | <enouf> | no offense or anything to those distros - they're very convenient |
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| 04:08 | <enouf> | amitav: put SmartBootManager on floppy and boot the CD (from menu) once the floppy boots |
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| 04:09 | <enouf> | amitav: that's what i do with my p150 (-586 era, babyAT) that only boots win98 OEM and an old DSL without support from SBM |
| 04:09 | <enouf> | s/that/which |
| 04:09 | <amitav> | enouf: wish I had a floppy drive |
| 04:10 | <enouf> | hahaha |
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| 04:10 | <amitav> | enouf: any other option |
| 04:10 | <enouf> | amitav: was puppy and debian 5.0.2 burned using SAME settings with same Application? |
| 04:11 | <enouf> | yeah, follow up on mine and all others' suggestions |
| 04:11 | <enouf> | you didn't answer half the queries |
| 04:11 | <amitav> | enouf: yes they were burnt using the same opensuse |
| 04:12 | <enouf> | opensuse isn't an application |
| 04:12 | <amitav> | enouf: I have only left the md5sum q unanswered so far because I am looking for the iso |
| 04:13 | <amitav> | enouf: well I burnt it on k3b |
| 04:13 | <enouf> | amitav: ok - say so ;-) |
| 04:13 | <enouf> | amitav: were the SETTINGS the same? |
| 04:13 | <amitav> | enouf: yes |
| 04:13 | <cahoot> | amitav: just use : wodim <my.iso> to minmize intervening layers |
| 04:13 | <enouf> | amitav: must 1st check ISO verifies md5/shasum |
| 04:13 | <amitav> | enouf: finalized both the disks |
| 04:14 | <enouf> | amitav: try also cahoot 's suggest |
| 04:14 | <enouf> | use -dao mode also |
| 04:14 | <enouf> | driveropts=burnfree, IIRC |
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| 04:14 | <cahoot> | enouf: don't overemphasize freedom |
| 04:14 | <amitav> | enouf: okay |
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| 04:15 | <enouf> | cahoot: huh? |
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| 04:16 | <cahoot> | enouf: lame sunday morning attempt of a joke |
| 04:16 | <enouf> | ahh ;-) |
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| 04:16 | <bajiya> | Got problem dual booting debian/solaris |
| 04:16 | <bajiya> | I cannot boot into debian |
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| 04:18 | <bajiya> | can anybody help??? |
| 04:19 | <amitav> | bajiya: tell more about your situation |
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| 04:19 | <bajiya> | I installed Solaris and cannot boot debian |
| 04:20 | <bajiya> | I have copied the debian list from menu.lst and pasted it on solaris menu.lst but when I try to run |
| 04:20 | <bajiya> | debian it gives Error 2 |
| 04:20 | <bajiya> | sorry solaris gives me this error |
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| 04:22 | <amitav> | bajiya: wat is solaris's bootloader? |
| 04:22 | <bajiya> | grub |
| 04:24 | <amitav> | paste your menu.lst in a paste bin |
| 04:24 | <amitav> | lets see |
| 04:24 | <bajiya> | give me a sec |
| 04:26 | <enouf> | bajiya: why would install grub again? |
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| 04:26 | <enouf> | bajiya: if debian already has it? different HDD where solaris is? |
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| 04:27 | <enouf> | even so, you could've used the map option |
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| 04:30 | <bajiya> | no no |
| 04:30 | <bajiya> | I have solaris and debian on same hdd |
| 04:31 | <bajiya> | #pragma ident "@(#)menu.lst 1.1 05/09/01 SMI" |
| 04:31 | <bajiya> | # |
| 04:31 | <bajiya> | # default menu entry to boot |
| 04:31 | <bajiya> | default 0 |
| 04:31 | <bajiya> | # |
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| 04:32 | <bajiya> | #pragma ident "@(#)menu.lst 1.1 05/09/01 SMI" |
| 04:32 | <bajiya> | # |
| 04:32 | <bajiya> | # default menu entry to boot |
| 04:32 | <bajiya> | default 0 |
| 04:32 | <bajiya> | # |
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| 04:34 | <bajiya> | http://paste.debian.net/43707/ |
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| 04:35 | <enouf> | so why did you install grub again? |
| 04:35 | <bajiya> | Solaris just installed it |
| 04:35 | <bajiya> | and also on some forum |
| 04:35 | <bajiya> | it was said to install it and just paste the boot link from the |
| 04:35 | <bajiya> | previous menu.lst file |
| 04:36 | <enouf> | well solaris sucks ass if it didn't ask you |
| 04:37 | <bajiya> | yeah |
| 04:37 | <bajiya> | it's been 2 days |
| 04:37 | <bajiya> | i've been trying to figure out |
| 04:37 | <bajiya> | how to do it |
| 04:38 | <enouf> | you have ext'd partition w/logicals, you messed it all up now, AFAICT |
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| 04:39 | <bajiya> | oh |
| 04:39 | <bajiya> | Does this means it has to be in Primary partition |
| 04:40 | <enouf> | boot any livecd, or debian in rescue mode, pastebin output of fdisk -l |
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| 04:40 | <bajiya> | ok |
| 04:40 | <enouf> | no idea about solaris, but an entry like hd0,2,a i've never seen - seems almost BSD slice-ish |
| 04:42 | <Gekz> | ... dah |
| 04:42 | <enouf> | although - Multiboot implies better support in grub2 which uses hd0,1 as 1st HDD, 1st partition instead of GRUB1's hd0,0 |
| 04:42 | <Gekz> | lol |
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| 04:43 | <Gekz> | the original grub uses logic >_> |
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| 04:43 | <bajiya> | You were telling me about mapping |
| 04:43 | <amitav> | enouf: where can I get the checksum for the netinst image |
| 04:43 | <bajiya> | can you pleez explain it little bit |
| 04:44 | <enouf> | debian mirror - wherever you d/l the ISO from |
| 04:45 | <enouf> | bajiya: maybe #grub on freenode.net would/can - again, i know nothing about solaris, ...and i'm just giving you my impressions from the info you've given |
| 04:46 | <bajiya> | oh okay |
| 04:46 | <enouf> | bajiya: 'map' option won't work with 1 HDD anyway, and i'm not even sure grub2 uses it as grub1 does |
| 04:46 | <bajiya> | oh |
| 04:46 | <Ilya> | Where can I get help in Russian? |
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| 04:46 | <bajiya> | anyway, thank you very much |
| 04:47 | <enouf> | !ru |
| 04:47 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:47 | <enouf> | no prob |
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| 04:47 | <Ilya> | Tnx |
| 04:48 | <jon_> | does anyone here compiz desktop effects on their system? |
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| 04:51 | <dr|z3d> | rodimus: Quite a few folk, I imagine. Just ask your question.. |
| 04:51 | <rodimus> | well i cannot seem to enable them, i've used it before in ubuntu |
| 04:52 | <rodimus> | i installed compiz through synaptic |
| 04:52 | <rodimus> | and i have not noticed any desktop effects yet |
| 04:53 | <rodimus> | i do not have a 3d graphics card, video is onboard,. but i've made it work in ubuntu |
| 04:53 | <rodimus> | now i want to do the same in debian |
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| 05:05 | <wekt> | rodimus: Does it appear as a session choice at the GDM login? |
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| 05:07 | <rodimus> | wekt i've yet to check that |
| 05:07 | <rodimus> | i'll try it now |
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| 05:08 | <ml|> | southernc: in your opinion, but i love it, xmonad rulez! ;) |
| 05:09 | <southernc> | omg where have you been all this time! |
| 05:09 | <ml|> | umm tha's classified ;) |
| 05:09 | <southernc> | ive been sitting here noone to talk to :( |
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| 05:09 | <southernc> | rodimus arent you from eh ? |
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| 05:10 | <ml|> | southernc: /j #debian-offtopic please |
| 05:10 | <rodimus> | wekt, there was an option in the sessions menu called TWM but it do anything when i tried to use it |
| 05:11 | <southernc> | rodimus compiz isnt going to be an option in gdm |
| 05:11 | <wekt> | rodimus: TWM is shipped with Xorg. |
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| 05:17 | <bash> | Does anyone know what the nvidia monitor setting manager is called? |
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| 05:18 | <bash> | nm, I found it |
| 05:19 | <klaas> | hello, I got a problem with initramfs; I'm trying to setup ssh so I can mount my encrypted root filesystem remotely but I can't get my network working - I keep getting no response on dhcp requests; after mounting root and normal booting network works fine though |
| 05:19 | <bash> | nvidida-settings |
| 05:20 | <bash> | nvidia-settings. |
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| 05:34 | <weasel> | klaas: cisco switch? |
| 05:34 | <klaas> | no, fritz box dsl modem/switch |
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| 05:37 | <klaas> | wait thats not correct, its running in virtualbox, network is e1000 driver, and dhcp server is provided by virtualbox |
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| 05:38 | <weasel> | is it waiting on the bridge learning the new topology and times out before? |
| 05:39 | <klaas> | I get the reply of dhclient send_packet: Network is down |
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| 05:40 | <klaas> | it trys a few times to get a lease and then it simply exits and the 'normal' boot continues after I entered the passphrase |
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| 05:54 | <k> | test |
| 05:54 | <dr|z3d> | !lart k |
| 05:54 | * | dpkg beats k senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 05:55 | <k> | exit |
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| 05:55 | <k> | :quit |
| 05:56 | <musca> | k: lach doch mal |
| 05:56 | <locklace> | !test |
| 05:56 | <dpkg> | epic test fail |
| 05:56 | <skott> | Im getting connecting to 1.0.0.0 when i try to do apt-get update in lenny |
| 05:56 | <k> | wie komme ich raus??! |
| 05:56 | <musca> | /part |
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| 05:56 | <skott> | i followed instructions at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 , but i still have the same problem |
| 05:56 | <skott> | any way to fix it ? |
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| 05:57 | <locklace> | i like how he tried vi syntax at the end there |
| 05:58 | <musca> | yes, nice |
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| 05:59 | <skott> | i have set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true in iceweasel and it works, but i still have problem in connecting from the console while doing apt-get update |
| 06:00 | <locklace> | !noipv6 |
| 06:00 | <dpkg> | i heard noipv6 is echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 06:00 | <skott> | locklace: dpkg: so i run the command !noipv6 and reboot the machine ? |
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| 06:03 | <skott> | k..ill try that |
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| 06:05 | <skott> | i did echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" > /etc/modprobe.conf and rebooted |
| 06:06 | <skott> | still says connecting to 1.0.0.0 while doing apt-get update |
| 06:06 | <weasel> | skott: that was not what you were told to do. |
| 06:07 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 388] by debhelper |
| 06:07 | <weasel> | god only knows what you broke with your silly command |
| 06:07 | <skott> | weasel: could u please tell me again, i think i misunderstood |
| 06:07 | <weasel> | Sun 12:00:05 <dpkg> i heard noipv6 is echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or |
| 06:07 | <weasel> | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 06:07 | <weasel> | Sun 12:05:52 <skott> i did echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" > /etc/modprobe.conf and rebooted |
| 06:07 | <weasel> | not. the. same. thing. |
| 06:08 | <skott> | weasel: i have done those steps given in article 409 |
| 06:08 | <OdyX> | skott: and the ">" instead of ">>" ? |
| 06:08 | <weasel> | no, you have not. |
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| 06:08 | <Ganneff> | there is a comment to that article with that command. |
| 06:09 | <weasel> | that makes it even less a good idea than following a random page to begin with |
| 06:09 | <OdyX> | yeah right... an "anonymous coward" |
| 06:09 | <Ganneff> | its on the intarweb, it must be true. |
| 06:09 | <weasel> | Ganneff: ah. ok then |
| 06:10 | <Ganneff> | also, what do people have against a simple blacklist ipv6 that they suggest the bin/true variant? |
| 06:10 | <OdyX> | skott: why disabling ipv6 in the first place ? |
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| 06:10 | <enouf> | why is anyone using modprobe.conf? |
| 06:10 | <weasel> | because they have no clue. |
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| 06:10 | <weasel> | (that fits to all 3 questions. do I get a cookie?) |
| 06:10 | <Squelos> | hi. |
| 06:10 | <enouf> | good excuse :-0 |
| 06:11 | <skott> | OdyX: im getting Connecting to 1.0.0.0 when doing apt-get upadte from console |
| 06:11 | <Squelos> | can someone help me install FF 3.5 ? |
| 06:11 | <Ganneff> | a simple blacklist ipv6 in one of the /etc/modprobe.d/foo files and good. but why bin/true? |
| 06:11 | <weasel> | skott: and what makes you think that has anything to do with v6? |
| 06:11 | <Squelos> | actually ill probly manage it myself :) |
| 06:11 | <weasel> | skott: does your /etc/hosts contain any non-standard entries? |
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| 06:12 | <skott> | weasel: my /etc/hosts http://pastebin.com/m6c616b2 |
| 06:12 | <skott> | ive commented those lines involving ip6 |
| 06:12 | <weasel> | and your sources.list? |
| 06:13 | <weasel> | you shouldn't have. but it shouldn't matter either |
| 06:13 | <enouf> | Ganneff: modprobe will look at any /etc/{modprobe.conf,modules.conf} files that exist prior (and use those values) to scanning a /etc/modprobe.d/*{.conf,*} files - but last time i saw this ipv6 being an issue was the person was running openvz |
| 06:13 | <enouf> | Ganneff: that is, AISTR |
| 06:14 | <skott> | weasel: http://pastebin.com/m5f588e19 , my sources.list |
| 06:14 | <diggler> | hi, after installation of lenny I am unable to login the system although login and password are identical to the one of the installation process. anyone has an idea?thx |
| 06:14 | <weasel> | skott: getent hosts ftp.iitm.ac.in |
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| 06:15 | <skott> | weasel: it returns "1.0.0.0 ftp.iitm.ac.in" |
| 06:15 | <Ganneff> | fix your dns |
| 06:15 | <weasel> | your DNS is lying to you. |
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| 06:15 | <Squelos> | diggler => do you have an english keyboard diggler ? |
| 06:16 | <Squelos> | because i know with my french keyboard, that when i login, its in english. |
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| 06:16 | <Squelos> | so i have to type it on the right keys in english. |
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| 06:16 | <skott> | weasel: since im able to browse websites in iceweasel, that means name to ip resolution is working correctly by my dns server,isnt it ? |
| 06:16 | <OdyX> | skott: in any case, "1.0.0.0" is no ipv6 addresss... |
| 06:16 | <weasel> | no, it doesn't mean that. |
| 06:16 | <OdyX> | skott: your DNS can lie for one single addresss |
| 06:17 | <weasel> | skott: 'host ftp.iitm.ac.in' |
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| 06:17 | <diggler> | no i have not, but I supposed that would be ok, since you have to choose youre language settings in the installation procedure |
| 06:17 | <Squelos> | btw, after decompressing the tar package for FF 3.5.2, what do i need to do ? |
| 06:17 | <skott> | weasel: that command returned http://pastebin.com/m737fbf22 |
| 06:18 | <enouf> | view any README or INSTALL files Squelos |
| 06:18 | <weasel> | interesting. |
| 06:18 | <weasel> | grep host /etc/nsswitch.conf |
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| 06:18 | <skott> | weasel: that returns "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4" |
| 06:18 | <craigevil> | Squelos: here is what i do > http://sidux-underground.com/smf/index.php?topic=126.msg342#msg342 |
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| 06:19 | <weasel> | ick |
| 06:19 | <weasel> | do you have avahi-daemon installed? |
| 06:19 | <weasel> | or mdns-scan? |
| 06:19 | <enouf> | likely even running |
| 06:19 | <weasel> | or anything else like that? |
| 06:19 | <OdyX> | Squelos: why aren't you using iceweasel ? |
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| 06:20 | <craigevil> | Squelos: bascially you just need to symlink the iceweasel plugins and make a menu entry or desktop for it |
| 06:20 | <skott> | when i do apt-get search avahi-daemon i get 'i avahi-daemon - Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon' |
| 06:20 | <OdyX> | !sidux |
| 06:20 | <dpkg> | sidux is probably a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid, with a special focus on clean and easy hard disk installation. It is <OT> in #debian. Please /join #sidux on irc.oftc.net. |
| 06:20 | <enouf> | i altered mine to 'files dns' only |
| 06:20 | <weasel> | skott: do you use it? |
| 06:20 | <skott> | weasel: no i dont |
| 06:20 | <Squelos> | iceweasel isnt up to date |
| 06:20 | <craigevil> | OdyX: who said anything about sidux? |
| 06:20 | <weasel> | skott: remove it? |
| 06:20 | <Squelos> | and i need the latest FF for some add on |
| 06:20 | <skott> | weasel: ok, ill remove it now |
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| 06:21 | <enouf> | skott: netstat will/should tell you if it's running as would ifconfig -a (169.25x.x.x addys) |
| 06:21 | <OdyX> | craigevil: not directly... mind your urls :-> |
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| 06:21 | <weasel> | skott: or just change your nsswitch |
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| 06:21 | <craigevil> | $ lsb_release -a |
| 06:21 | <weasel> | skott: to just contain files dns |
| 06:21 | <craigevil> | Distributor ID: Debian |
| 06:21 | <craigevil> | Description: Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) |
| 06:21 | <OdyX> | craigevil: np |
| 06:21 | <skott> | weasel: how to change nsswitch ? |
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| 06:21 | <weasel> | skott: edit it? |
| 06:22 | <craigevil> | yes i know where the url came from, its not from the sidux forum :) |
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| 06:22 | <skott> | weasel: do i remove the avahi-daemon first ? |
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| 06:22 | <weasel> | na |
| 06:22 | <OdyX> | craigevil: it's just that I'm certain that the iceweasel maintainers would not mind getting help to update iceweasel to be up2date |
| 06:22 | <craigevil> | iceweasel 3.5.1 still isnt even in sid and mozilla is on 3.5.2 |
| 06:23 | <Ganneff> | and? |
| 06:23 | <OdyX> | craigevil: experimental.. |
| 06:23 | <weasel> | so? |
| 06:23 | <skott> | i opened /etc/nsswitch , and its blank |
| 06:23 | <craigevil> | yes i have iceweasel 3.5.1 |
| 06:23 | <craigevil> | its till a version behind mozilla |
| 06:23 | <weasel> | skott: try to think a bit. |
| 06:23 | <enouf> | skott: close it, try .conf |
| 06:23 | <OdyX> | craigevil: yeah... and ? |
| 06:23 | <weasel> | most of the interesting things are in xulrunner anyway |
| 06:24 | <craigevil> | and newer versions have bug/security fixes |
| 06:24 | <enouf> | new and improved? :-) |
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| 06:24 | <amphi> | enouf: you? say it's not so! |
| 06:24 | <enouf> | like how version 2.x.x was better than 1.x.x ? |
| 06:24 | <craigevil> | enouf: no thats xorg/hal/udev :) |
| 06:24 | <enouf> | heh |
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| 06:24 | <skott> | my /etc/nsswitch.conf contains http://pastebin.com/m64d355d4 |
| 06:25 | <weasel> | so? |
| 06:25 | <weasel> | we told you what to do already |
| 06:25 | <weasel> | and we know what it contains |
| 06:25 | <enouf> | amphi: i have been released into the wilds on my own recognisance :-p |
| 06:25 | <weasel> | skott: change the hosts line. |
| 06:25 | <weasel> | hosts: files dns |
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| 06:25 | <weasel> | is what you want most likely |
| 06:26 | <amphi> | enouf: someone is being very rash, IMHO |
| 06:26 | <skott> | weasel: im sorry, havent done this before, if i understand u correctly , i replace 'files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4' with 'files dns', correct ? |
| 06:26 | <enouf> | skott: i use rcconf to kill (annoying) startup services that i don't want running, or, i just apt-get --purge remove <pkgname> if i want to |
| 06:26 | <Ganneff> | !u |
| 06:26 | <dpkg> | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 06:27 | <enouf> | skott: s/don't want running/don't want running, yet might want to at certain times, or at a later date |
| 06:27 | <Ganneff> | enouf: you are not helpful, thats not what he needs currently. |
| 06:27 | <Ganneff> | skott: yes |
| 06:27 | <skott> | ok |
| 06:28 | <enouf> | Ganneff: i'm not helpful? gee .. are you god or something? |
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| 06:28 | <enouf> | amphi: did i miss a memo? |
| 06:28 | <bremner> | you missed a memo |
| 06:29 | <OdyX> | enouf: don't say "you" to Ganneff... you'd rather use "Your Holiness" or "Magesty" |
| 06:29 | <skott> | rebooting my machine now |
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| 06:29 | <weasel> | what on earth fo... |
| 06:29 | <Ganneff> | weasel: its the solution to everything... |
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| 06:29 | <weasel> | I must have missed /that/ memo |
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| 06:29 | <enouf> | let's see - that makes 3 more bozos added to the box amphi ;-) |
| 06:29 | <Ganneff> | yes |
| 06:30 | <Ganneff> | weasel: its probably in your spamfilter somewhere. |
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| 06:32 | <skott> | my /etc/nsswitch.conf now : http://pastebin.com/m4931dc73 |
| 06:33 | <skott> | and getent hosts iitm.ac.in says '1.0.0.0 ftp.iitm.ac.in' |
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| 06:35 | <weasel> | are you sure you showed us your correct etc/hosts? |
| 06:35 | <OdyX> | skott: what is your /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 06:35 | * | weasel would strace to learn where this info comes from |
| 06:36 | <skott> | my /etc/resolv.conf has 'nameserver 192.168.1.1' |
| 06:36 | <locklace> | skott: replace it with opendns |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | NONONONONO |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | BAD ADVICE |
| 06:36 | <weasel> | BAD locklace. |
| 06:36 | <dr|z3d> | Haha. |
| 06:36 | * | dr|z3d <3's OpenDNS. |
| 06:37 | <weasel> | the people lying to you "for your own good"? |
| 06:37 | <SouthernC> | same |
| 06:37 | <dr|z3d> | Purists, like weasel, don't. |
| 06:37 | <OdyX> | locklace: maybe try with dig first ? |
| 06:37 | <skott> | 191.168.1.1 is my ADSL router |
| 06:37 | <OdyX> | nonono... its mine |
| 06:38 | <locklace> | it works, and it's fast, and 80% of ISP DNS servers and crappy dsl routers suck black holes through cocktail straws |
| 06:38 | <weasel> | dig apt-get install bind9? |
| 06:38 | <dr|z3d> | weasel: I find their error messages mostly quite useful; their advertizing I remove by default with Element Hiding Helper. :) |
| 06:38 | <weasel> | s/dig// |
| 06:38 | <locklace> | bind introduces whole new levels of suction |
| 06:39 | * | weasel shakes his head |
| 06:39 | <OdyX> | skott: sorry... bad joke... Can you try "dig @192.168.1.1 ftp.iitm.ac.in" and "dig @208.67.222.22 ftp.iitm.ac.in" ? |
| 06:39 | * | dr|z3d chuckles. |
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| 06:39 | <locklace> | i gave up on bind as soon as it hit 9. it makes windows look like a bastion of ironclad security by contrast, for one thing |
| 06:40 | <weasel> | says the guy liking opendns... |
| 06:40 | <locklace> | i'm open to alternatives, as long as they suck less |
| 06:41 | <SouthernC> | open-dns is the shit 10x faster then my isps's dns servers |
| 06:41 | <dr|z3d> | locklace: If you're happy about OpenDNS hijacking 404's and the like, stick with opendns. Works fine. |
| 06:41 | <OdyX> | locklace: you can combine :-) https://www.opendns.com/start/device/bind |
| 06:41 | <skott> | OdyX: heres the o/p of those two commands : http://pastebin.com/m3ba90285 |
| 06:41 | <OdyX> | skott: okay... local problem then... |
| 06:42 | <locklace> | dr|z3d: yeah, i find that only mildly annoying compared to actually getting consistent, fast dns service all the time. |
| 06:42 | <weasel> | not to mention censored |
| 06:42 | <weasel> | just run your own resolver |
| 06:43 | <OdyX> | skott: can you run "grep -R 'ftp.iitm.ac.in' /etc/" as root ? |
| 06:43 | <dr|z3d> | Actually, OpenDNS's "censoring" of results is useful for newb users.. mom & pop.. makes it less likely they stumble across nastiness. |
| 06:43 | <weasel> | dr|z3d: and it's not 404s. it's NXDOMAINs |
| 06:43 | <dr|z3d> | Yeah, I know weasel. :) You know what I meant. |
| 06:43 | <locklace> | i might run my own when i can be arsed, but it sure as fuck won't be bind9 |
| 06:43 | <weasel> | dr|z3d: not really. you like opendns, all bets are off |
| 06:44 | <OdyX> | at least verisign very-resigned |
| 06:44 | <skott> | OdyX: that returns http://pastebin.com/m7ef88a63 |
| 06:44 | <dr|z3d> | weasel: Fwiw, *I* use Tor to do all my local resolves. :) |
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| 06:44 | <bremner> | I just ask weasel what things resolve to |
| 06:44 | <OdyX> | skott: "host ftp.iitm.ac.in" again ? |
| 06:45 | <weasel> | skott: grep 1.0 /etc/hosts |
| 06:45 | <weasel> | bremner: the answer always is 1.0.0.0 |
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| 06:45 | <enouf> | InfoSpace, ugh |
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| 06:46 | <eb0168> | hello, I'm in debian testing on amd64 and daily update uninstalled nvidia-glx-ia32 and I can't reinstall it |
| 06:46 | <skott> | host ftp.iitm.ac.in shows http://pastebin.com/m25d916b4 |
| 06:46 | <OdyX> | eb0168: don't you check what apt{,itude} wants to delete ? |
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| 06:47 | <skott> | and grep 1.0 /etc/hosts returns nothing |
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| 06:47 | <weasel> | skott: strace getent hosts ftp.iitm.ac.in |
| 06:47 | <eb0168> | OdyX, on daily update it seems to not show it |
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| 06:48 | <weasel> | skott: also, dig -t aaaa @192.168.1.1 ftp.iitm.ac.in |
| 06:48 | <eb0168> | OdyX: or maybe I didn't look carefully |
| 06:48 | <skott> | weasel: k |
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| 06:50 | <eb0168> | it says that nvidia-glx-ia32 depends on "ia32-libs but must not be installed" |
| 06:50 | <OdyX> | eb0168: it might be that ia32-libs is b0rken these days... |
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| 06:51 | <enouf> | judd: versions ia32-libs --arch amd64 |
| 06:51 | <judd> | enouf: ia32-libs -- etch: 1.19 lenny: 2.7 squeeze: 2.7 sid: 21 |
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| 06:51 | <OdyX> | judd is not up2date... |
| 06:51 | <judd> | OdyX: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 06:51 | <OdyX> | Squeeze: 20090804 Sid: 20090808 |
| 06:51 | <enouf> | eb0168: apt-listchanges, and apt-listbugs might also do you well in the future |
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| 06:52 | <eb0168> | I use synaptic |
| 06:52 | <skott> | the o/p of strace and dig http://pastebin.com/m797acffb |
| 06:52 | <enouf> | eb0168: and are "daily updates" really needed? unless you want to submit but reports and patches, things in testing can and will break from time to time |
| 06:52 | <enouf> | s/but/bug/ |
| 06:53 | <weasel> | skott: interesting. so the straced getent returned the correct IP address |
| 06:53 | <eb0168> | enouf, oh ok but how do I revert back ? |
| 06:54 | <Squelos> | why does iceweasel launch when i try to launch firefox ? :-_- |
| 06:54 | <chealer> | eb0168: surely you didn't look carefully, synaptic doesn't remove packages without telling |
| 06:54 | <dr|z3d> | Squelos: locate firefox-bin |
| 06:54 | <eb0168> | Squelos, iceweasel IS firefox in 64 bits |
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| 06:54 | <eb0168> | (in debian that is) |
| 06:54 | <Squelos> | oh its firefox bin i have to launch. |
| 06:55 | <Squelos> | eb0168 => iceweasel isnt up to date :) |
| 06:55 | <skott> | do i have to do something about the dns server ? |
| 06:55 | <weasel> | unsure |
| 06:55 | <weasel> | something is really weird about your system. |
| 06:55 | <OdyX> | in and out... |
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| 06:56 | <dr|z3d> | skott: Take weasel's advice, run a local dns server. |
| 06:56 | <skott> | dr|z3d: k |
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| 06:56 | <weasel> | dr|z3d: see, his dns server returns the correct answer. |
| 06:56 | <weasel> | his getent does too, when straced. |
| 06:56 | <weasel> | but not without strace |
| 06:56 | <weasel> | something is seriously fucked |
| 06:56 | <dr|z3d> | weasel: Yeah, oddness all round. |
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| 06:57 | <dr|z3d> | If this was Windows, I'd suspect malware. |
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| 06:58 | <wekt> | Can weak PCs (900MHz CPU, 512MB RAM) run compiz well? without the 3D? |
| 06:58 | <dr|z3d> | wekt: Compiz without 3d is like a car without wheels. |
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| 06:58 | <krm> | /server irc.irchighway.net |
| 06:58 | <OdyX> | wekt: depends highly on the graphics card... You might prefer to run KDE4 or similar |
| 06:58 | <dr|z3d> | Compiz _is_ a 3d compositor. |
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| 06:59 | <enouf> | wekt: you don't need compiz |
| 06:59 | <dr|z3d> | wekt: Xfce and compositing should be fine on 900Mhz. |
| 06:59 | <enouf> | wekt: you don't want any DE either, IMHO |
| 06:59 | <ml|> | nodoby needs compiz ;) |
| 07:00 | <wekt> | Switching from KDE to Gnome, I miss some of the customizability, though I like some other things like better integration with OpenOffice and Iceweasel. |
| 07:00 | <dr|z3d> | enouf: You don't know what his pc use case is.. ;) |
| 07:00 | <dr|z3d> | wekt: Like I said, you're better off with Xfce on 900Mhz.. |
| 07:00 | <OdyX> | wekt: try gtk-qt-engine |
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| 07:00 | <dr|z3d> | Pretty much looks and functions like Gnome, without the bloat. |
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| 07:00 | <wekt> | OdyX: I did. It didn't work well. |
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| 07:00 | <wekt> | OdyX: good idea though. |
| 07:01 | <ml|> | or lxde or even better just a window manger |
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| 07:01 | <dr|z3d> | (and Xfce has an adequate compositing engine for all your transparent windows and shadows). |
| 07:01 | <wekt> | I was surprised that bothe xfce and lxde use DBus. |
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| 07:03 | <amitav_> | enouf: i have burnt a cd with the netinst image.(checked the md5sum before burning). it shows isolinux 3.71 debian <date> |
| 07:03 | <amitav_> | enouf: then it gives an error |
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| 07:04 | <chealer> | eb0168: it isn't. iceweasel is a DFSG-free pseudo-fork of Firefox |
| 07:04 | <chealer> | !tell eb0168 about iceweasel |
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| 07:05 | <eb0168> | oh ok |
| 07:06 | <eb0168> | I am more interested in installing that nvidia-glx-ia32 actually |
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| 07:08 | <eb0168> | if I revert to stable should it work ? |
| 07:09 | <enouf> | amitav_: error is? |
| 07:09 | <OdyX> | eb0168: should... but downgrading is not supported.. |
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| 07:09 | <enouf> | dr|z3d: wekt: i run a pII (350MHz), and a dual CPU xeon (1.7G each), each with 512M RAM ... and i know bloatware :-p |
| 07:09 | <eb0168> | mm... |
| 07:10 | <dr|z3d> | enouf: I'm sure you do :) Not questioning that, but for many users an OS w/o a DE is next to useless. |
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| 07:10 | <amitav_> | enouf: well I could not read the full error. it had something like boot error and something about the disk. second time, the error does not appear and it is stuck at ISOLINUX 33.71 |
| 07:10 | <enouf> | dr|z3d: shame, isn't it? |
| 07:10 | * | dr|z3d chuckles. |
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| 07:13 | <amitav_> | *3.71 i mean |
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| 07:15 | <legnaleurc> | Did any one uses 'wine-unstable' and has problem with library path? |
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| 07:16 | <legnaleurc> | It does not use '/usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu/' |
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| 07:19 | <darkwizzard> | hello |
| 07:19 | <darkwizzard> | the wifi led on my laptop won't turn on, but it can scan for wireless networks |
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| 07:20 | <melkor_> | darkwizzard: Chipset? |
| 07:20 | <melkor_> | darkwizzard: Can you connect to wireless networks? |
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| 07:21 | <darkwizzard> | Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) |
| 07:21 | <darkwizzard> | well there are no public hotspots here which work, but I can see them, signal strenght and everything |
| 07:21 | <darkwizzard> | in knetworkmanager |
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| 07:22 | <melkor_> | hm doesnt know the atheros driver well, only used intel chipsets |
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| 07:22 | <darkwizzard> | it seems to work, but I think it's always on, that's not too good for the battery I guess |
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| 07:22 | <melkor_> | if you can connect, i would try to find out why the led is turned off |
| 07:22 | <melkor_> | WOULD't |
| 07:22 | <melkor_> | would not I mean *gg |
| 07:23 | <melkor_> | you haven't got a hardware switch? |
| 07:23 | <darkwizzard> | well, you see in windows if the wireless led is turned off then I can't scan networks |
| 07:23 | <darkwizzard> | nope, only Fn+F2 |
| 07:24 | <melkor_> | yeah it's a driver issue i suppose |
| 07:24 | <darkwizzard> | hmm, this is the driver http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k |
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| 07:25 | <darkwizzard> | I have 2.6.30 kernel |
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| 07:26 | <d4rkl0rd> | can anybody help me with dist-upgrade from current stable to testing? dist-upgrade is failing on openoffice-mailemerge (dpkg return exit code 1) |
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| 07:27 | <d4rkl0rd> | and other thing is that it installed mysql-server which i don't want (and probably many other packages) |
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| 07:29 | <melkor_> | darkwizzard: Sorry I don't know how to help you. |
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| 07:31 | <Squelos> | hello i've got a problem. when i go onto a page with flash on it, iceweasel closes |
| 07:31 | <craigevil> | isnt that what flash is designed to do |
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| 07:32 | <Squelos> | -_- |
| 07:32 | <Squelos> | i got the plugin flash non free installed |
| 07:32 | <craigevil> | Squelos: take a look at http://www.blogsdna.com/430/9-fix-for-firefox-3-crashes-hanging-problem.htm |
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| 07:33 | <Squelos> | craig. firefox crash going onto that page |
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| 07:34 | <rodimus> | anyone have any tips for speeding up a computer with compiz running? |
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| 07:35 | <Squelos> | a good conf file |
| 07:35 | <Squelos> | or, deactivate compiz |
| 07:35 | <dr|z3d> | rodimus: Sure. Turn compiz off. |
| 07:35 | <rodimus> | i've run compiz on ubuntu and it was fairly smooth, its rather choppy on debian though |
| 07:35 | <rodimus> | i know it cam be done |
| 07:35 | <dr|z3d> | rodimus: Also, try a lightweight DE with Compiz.. Xfce, for example. |
| 07:36 | <rodimus> | dr|z3d, ok |
| 07:36 | <dr|z3d> | rodimus: And be sparing with the effects you choose. |
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| 07:36 | <dr|z3d> | Wobbly windows are fun for about 5 minutes, but don't add much of substance to the party.. |
| 07:36 | <rodimus> | Squelos, are you referring to the xorg.conf file? |
| 07:36 | <Squelos> | yes |
| 07:37 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 394] by debhelper |
| 07:37 | <Squelos> | i know getting my xorg.conf file right helped me a lot. compiz was very slow before, and then amazingly fast after. |
| 07:38 | <Squelos> | but rodimus, im no expert concerning linux or debian. |
| 07:38 | <rodimus> | Squelos, what helped you with the conf file? |
| 07:38 | <chealer> | d4rkl0rd: just ask your question(s) |
| 07:38 | <Squelos> | rodimus, is your GPU nvidia ? |
| 07:38 | <rodimus> | no i dont think so |
| 07:38 | <Squelos> | uh, adding loads of options into it. |
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| 07:39 | <Squelos> | i just followed a guide on the internet. |
| 07:39 | <rodimus> | Squelos, do you remember where you found the guide? |
| 07:39 | <Squelos> | I needed to add some options into it. it worked fine after that. |
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| 07:39 | <Squelos> | rodimus : no sorry :s |
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| 07:39 | <Squelos> | rodimus, are your drivers installed properly ? |
| 07:40 | <bremner> | how would he know? start by figuring out what graphics card |
| 07:41 | <Squelos> | bremner, be nice with newcomers, i was like him 48hours ago. Well i know what graphics card i had |
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| 07:42 | <bremner> | Squelos: I am being nice to him, I'm trying to suggest a fruitful way you could help him. |
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| 07:42 | <rodimus> | my vodeo card is an intel extreme graphics2 3d |
| 07:42 | <rodimus> | video card io mean |
| 07:42 | <Squelos> | fuck, i dont know anything with them intel chips. |
| 07:42 | <bremner> | rodimus: what version of xserver-xorg-video-intel do you have? |
| 07:43 | <rodimus> | im not sure, how do i find out? |
| 07:43 | <bremner> | rodimus: apt-cache policy packagename (for any package) |
| 07:44 | <Squelos> | this might help rodimus http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-install-compiz-in-debian.html |
| 07:45 | <rodimus> | bremner, http://pastebin.com/m79a26570 |
| 07:46 | <rodimus> | is it odd that i have 512mb of ram but my computer only reads that i have 496 mb? |
| 07:46 | <OdyX> | rodimus: shared memory for the graphics card |
| 07:46 | <Squelos> | yeah |
| 07:47 | <rodimus> | is it odd that my xorg.conf file is enmpty currently? |
| 07:47 | <azeem> | !empty xorg.conf |
| 07:47 | <dpkg> | [empty xorg.conf] in Lenny, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is often empty, as X auto-detects your hardware and starts the X server accordingly, nothing to worry about. Ask me about <xorg config> and <xrandr> for ways to configure Xorg from Lenny onwards. |
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| 07:48 | <Squelos> | Xorg -Configure |
| 07:48 | <Squelos> | Xorg -configure |
| 07:48 | <azeem> | Squelos: hrm? |
| 07:48 | <Squelos> | then cp ./xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 07:48 | <azeem> | Squelos: did rodimus ask about configuring? |
| 07:48 | <azeem> | I think rodimus asked about the emtpy xorg.conf |
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| 07:48 | <Squelos> | yes, well thats how to fill it in :) |
| 07:49 | <Squelos> | btw rodimus, you are lucking compiz is running with an empty xorg.conf file. |
| 07:49 | <OdyX> | Squelos: did you read the line beginning with [empty xorg.conf] ? |
| 07:49 | <OdyX> | Squelos: no... compiz runs perfectly fine with an empty xorg.conf (given not too exotic hardware) |
| 07:49 | <Squelos> | yes. |
| 07:49 | <rodimus> | its acting very sluggish |
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| 07:50 | <Plorf> | hi there |
| 07:50 | <OdyX> | can you run "glxinfo | grep direct" |
| 07:50 | <rodimus> | OdyX, me? |
| 07:50 | <Squelos> | given not too exotic hardware => well if you consider recent GPU's as exotic hardware, im ok with you then; |
| 07:51 | <chealer> | rodimus: kind of, it is a known bug |
| 07:51 | <OdyX> | rodimus: yeah.. |
| 07:51 | <rodimus> | it says "direct rendering" yes |
| 07:52 | <chealer> | dpkg: empty xorg.conf =~ #empty#basically empty# |
| 07:52 | <dpkg> | chealer: wish i knew |
| 07:52 | <azeem> | chealer: basically empty? |
| 07:52 | <craigevil> | the problem is the intel drivers are just wacked, sid uses UXA but in testing you need EXA to get half way decent fps without crashing |
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| 07:53 | <chealer> | azeem: well, it's not a 0 bit file |
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| 07:53 | <melkor_> | has someone experienced periodic freezes with kde 4.3? |
| 07:53 | <chealer> | melkor_: ask #debian-kde |
| 07:53 | <azeem> | chealer: what is it? |
| 07:54 | <rodimus> | this is what my xorg.conf file looks like |
| 07:54 | <rodimus> | http://pastebin.com/m58f4d72b |
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| 07:54 | <azeem> | non-existant? |
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| 07:54 | <azeem> | rodimus: so it's not empty |
| 07:54 | <bremner> | its also not syntactically valid |
| 07:54 | <azeem> | chealer: AIUI, xorg.conf can also be empty/nonexistant in lenny |
| 07:54 | <azeem> | rodimus: did you modify it yourself? |
| 07:54 | <abrotman> | it can be missing |
| 07:55 | <rodimus> | it was empty but the website with the guide squelo gave me told me to add those lines to it |
| 07:55 | <craigevil> | its missing the Section and EndSection as well as description parts |
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| 07:55 | <chealer> | azeem: due to the bug, yes, but the factoid talks about normal conditions |
| 07:56 | <abrotman> | huh? |
| 07:57 | <craigevil> | wasnt a fix or whatever uploaded to proposed-updates for the lenny xorg |
| 07:57 | <chealer> | dpkg: <reply>Starting from Lenny, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is often basically empty, as X auto-detects your hardware and starts the X server accordingly, nothing to worry about. Ask me about <xorg config> and <xrandr> for ways to configure Xorg. |
| 07:57 | <dpkg> | chealer: what are you talking about? |
| 07:57 | <chealer> | uh |
| 07:57 | <chealer> | dpkg: no, empty xorg.conf is <reply>Starting from Lenny, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is often basically empty, as X auto-detects your hardware and starts the X server accordingly, nothing to worry about. Ask me about <xorg config> and <xrandr> for ways to configure Xorg. |
| 07:57 | <dpkg> | chealer: okay |
| 07:57 | <craigevil> | rodimus: i dont use compiz but this is my xorg.conf to give you an better idea> http://pastebin.com/m19ecc156 |
| 07:57 | <rodimus> | ok thank you |
| 07:58 | <chealer> | sorry, I don't even remember how to do partial modifications |
| 07:58 | <Plorf> | do you know any issue in sid about intel driver ? |
| 07:58 | <azeem> | chealer: 1. which bug? 2. can't it actually be totally empty as well? |
| 07:58 | <chealer> | craigevil: yes |
| 07:58 | <craigevil> | Plorf: works fine here |
| 07:58 | <bremner> | Plorf: yes, look in x-strike-force wiki |
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| 07:58 | <Plorf> | got a link plz ? |
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| 07:59 | <bremner> | Plorf: http://www.google.com |
| 07:59 | <Plorf> | thx :/ lol |
| 07:59 | <chealer> | azeem: 1. #535624 2. not under normal conditions |
| 07:59 | <abrotman> | Plorf: bugs.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-intel ? |
| 07:59 | <bremner> | Plorf: basically they warn with some intel hardware, the new architecture might not work well |
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| 08:04 | <rodimus> | !xorg config |
| 08:04 | <dpkg> | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Things like resolution are configured by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. As a result, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank but you can feed xorg settings using it still. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout and use "X -configure" as a template for your handwritten xorg.conf. |
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| 08:06 | <abrotman> | except the second one will wipe out the first one |
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| 08:07 | <Blacker47> | hello, anyone know how to count ram-usage of kernel on runing system? i think there is a mem-leak or something like it |
| 08:07 | <craigevil> | doesnt console-data handle the keyboard now |
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| 08:07 | <rodimus> | craigevil, does this look any better? http://pastebin.com/m42ebc896 |
| 08:07 | <bremner> | Blacker47: vmstat, or top, or htop |
| 08:08 | <craigevil> | rodimus: i havent a clue how it should look for compiz ive never messed with it |
| 08:08 | <rodimus> | yeah but is the syntax correct? |
| 08:08 | <Blacker47> | bremner, top/htop shows in both situation the same but on one running a have 220 mb in total and on other running 540 mb total usage |
| 08:08 | <azeem> | rodimus: does it work? |
| 08:09 | <rodimus> | azeem, have not tried it yet |
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| 08:09 | <rodimus> | i guess i will try it now |
| 08:09 | <rodimus> | should i reboot or just logout |
| 08:09 | <craigevil> | rodimus: if not try something like this> http://pastebin.com/m765750a2 |
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| 08:10 | <Blacker47> | bremner, or in different question: i want to find out, there the 300 MB of ram is going and htop/top seems not be able to help me |
| 08:10 | <craigevil> | thats from the debianeeepc wiki, since they use intel it should work |
| 08:10 | <rodimus> | craigevil, thank you |
| 08:11 | <bremner> | Blacker47: you mean top and htop give you different answers? |
| 08:11 | <dr|z3d> | Blacker47: System cache, probably. |
| 08:11 | <Blacker47> | bremner, no, the same but there is no task that could consume 300 MB |
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| 08:12 | <Blacker47> | rebooting the systems helps mostly.. in few days it repeates.. |
| 08:12 | <bremner> | Blacker47: how much does top say is "cached", second ling at right |
| 08:12 | <bremner> | Blacker47: what is the actual problem? |
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| 08:15 | <Blacker47> | bremner, sometimes after booting ram-usage without cache and w/o buffers: 540 MB and sometimes 220 MB. it should be allways 220 MB. in case of 540 MB there is no task in top/htop/ps that could consume that much ram. I want to find out that is consuming that ram and why. now I have to reboot the machine to have 220 MB (allways approx). there is no possibility like "kill X-server" to get this >300 MB |
| 08:16 | <Blacker47> | I belive it is a mem-leak of kernel and that i can't see kernel-ram-usage in top/htop |
| 08:16 | <Blacker47> | it also could be a root-kit :-/ |
| 08:19 | <bremner> | Blacker47: are you sure restarting the X server doesn't fix it? |
| 08:19 | <Blacker47> | yes |
| 08:19 | <sophi> | If You think that this is a kernel, so maybie compile it for yourself? |
| 08:19 | * | bremner has vague memories of a command to give a map of vm usage |
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| 08:20 | <Blacker47> | bremner, this may be helpfull |
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| 08:21 | <Blacker47> | sophi, i would dislike to compile the own kernel.. the second thing is that i am using nvidia-driver from unfree-repository. then i need to compile it also by myself. the error may also be in the nvidia-driver.. the problem is that it happens mostly unpredictable so it not easy to test |
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| 08:23 | <Blacker47> | the last time i saw the error before totay is 1 - 1.5 weeks ago. so it wouldn't be a good test with different kernel because i wouldn't see the change immedately. what i want is to find out what is consuming that ram |
| 08:24 | <sophi> | i'm not sure, but can't You do it by module-assistant, when You installed kernel headers.. I got problems with my system, after updating to squeeze, and switched to free radeon drivers |
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| 08:24 | <sophi> | And I compiled kernel 2.6.30.1, everything just worked |
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| 08:25 | <Blacker47> | it would not be the first time i would compile the kernel and nvidia-modules by myself, but the last time i compiled working kernel was 5 years in the past |
| 08:26 | <abrotman> | have you tried not using the nvidia binary drivers? |
| 08:26 | <Blacker47> | i would like to find the error instead of workaround |
| 08:26 | <bremner> | but if the error is in nvidia binary drivers, how will you find it? |
| 08:26 | <abrotman> | you can't find hte error in the nvidia driver .. it's binary only |
| 08:26 | <Blacker47> | abrotman, not. i could try this but how sayed i not sure i could see the changes because it not happen every day |
| 08:27 | <abrotman> | so try it for a few days ? |
| 08:27 | <bremner> | there is kerneltop, but I don't know if it needs a custom kernel |
| 08:28 | <Blacker47> | bremner, find the error by a table that says that the nvidia-driver consumes >100MB? but how to get this table? |
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| 08:29 | <Blacker47> | "it needs prifiling enabled on kernel and on boot time" and not for modules.. :-( |
| 08:29 | <bremner> | you can also try sysprof and oprofile |
| 08:29 | * | abrotman would just ditch the nvidia thing for a few days |
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| 08:30 | <bremner> | yeah, me too. But the tools sound cool :) |
| 08:31 | <Blacker47> | profiling sounds like a bit too much... |
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| 08:31 | <bremner> | thats all I got... |
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| 08:33 | <Blacker47> | and it seems to mostly concentrate on cpu usage not on ram usage |
| 08:33 | <sophi> | well, i got some sort of idea, the program top, haves the ability to show different memory usage, by selecting adictional fields, just press 'f' key and You can switch column of for instance code size of process |
| 08:34 | <sophi> | Maybie some of this additional column will sugest You an answer |
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| 08:34 | <Blacker47> | you mean this virt/res/shr, etc? |
| 08:35 | <sophi> | Yes, but You can turn on more |
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| 08:35 | <sophi> | press 'f' to list of columns |
| 08:35 | <indos> | f |
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| 08:36 | <indos> | bcgfhk nvhhgkhjbjbj |
| 08:36 | <skott> | weasel: hello, i was talking to you earlier about the connecting to 1.0.0.0 problem |
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| 08:49 | <Plorf> | hi, i'm back, i've find where my bug is :) |
| 08:50 | <Plorf> | i've got a bug into sid, into xorg while using the driver intel, when i'm using vesa it's running quite well :) |
| 08:50 | <Plorf> | but that's weird because while using under testing it's ok but while under sid it crashed, all seems to be the same except the kernel |
| 08:50 | <Plorf> | :/ |
| 08:51 | <azeem> | Plorf: it's not weird, it's what can happen with unstable |
| 08:51 | <bremner> | seems to be the same? |
| 08:51 | <azeem> | the kernel? |
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| 08:55 | <Plorf> | azeem: i'm glad to find, so i can use it now :p |
| 08:56 | <Plorf> | because under testing i can't get the wifi :/ |
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| 08:57 | <Plorf> | which driver should i use instead of intel ? |
| 08:57 | <Plorf> | because vesa is a quite too simple |
| 08:57 | <abrotman> | intel |
| 08:58 | <Plorf> | how can i make the intel driver up to date ? |
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| 08:59 | <abrotman> | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 08:59 | <judd> | abrotman: xserver-xorg-video-intel -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2 lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny6 squeeze: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny6 experimental: 2:2.7.99.902-1 sid: 2:2.8.0-2 |
| 09:00 | <sophi> | Well, i say sommething that might help, i got a radeon X1250, so i can't get direct rendering on radeon driver, i found out that mesa drivers are to old to recognize card, and i updated it with xorg from sid, it worked, but system was crashing from time to time |
| 09:00 | <abrotman> | seems the one in sid is newer than experimental .. not sure what intel website is offering |
| 09:00 | <sophi> | until i compiled the kernel |
| 09:00 | <sophi> | so maybie that would help You also |
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| 09:02 | <sophi> | sorry, i'm not very good with my english :) |
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| 09:05 | <Plorf> | judd: i'll try will the experimental package then :) |
| 09:05 | <judd> | Plorf: Error: "i'll" is not a valid command. |
| 09:05 | <abrotman> | Plorf: it's *older* |
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| 09:08 | <Plorf> | i'm checking for the diff between the sid and experimental release of xorg-intel |
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| 09:11 | <Blacker47> | bremner, i may found the source of big ram consuming.. updatedb. the sort-prozess consumes only 50 MB but the system has ~250 mb more ram usage.. |
| 09:11 | <skott> | im able to do apt-get update after i ping the location in my sources.list |
| 09:12 | <skott> | but then apt-get resets back to 1.0.0.0 |
| 09:12 | <skott> | and i have to ping the location again to make it work |
| 09:12 | <skott> | any way to fix this ? |
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| 09:12 | <Plorf> | i'll be back soon |
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| 09:14 | <cahoot> | skott: dns problems? what's in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 09:14 | <abrotman> | skott: why did you ask on the other network and then quit? |
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| 09:15 | <abrotman> | Blacker47: that should go away when done |
| 09:15 | <sophi> | Blacker47, i hate that program, it runs from cron, and when it runs, it makes my computer so slow, i just deleted it from cron :) |
| 09:15 | <skott> | abrotman: i had got dc |
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| 09:16 | <Blacker47> | but i doesn't.. updatedb is now ready and i am on 630 MB to prevorious 400 MB.. there seems to be some kind of memleaks or buffers.. don't know |
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| 09:16 | <skott> | cahoot: in my resolv.conf 'nameserver 192.168.1.1' |
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| 09:16 | <abrotman> | sounds like a proxy |
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| 09:17 | <skott> | thats my adsl router |
| 09:17 | <Blacker47> | abrotman, i think i should report it as a bug in kernel |
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| 09:17 | <skott> | strange thing is it gets back to 1.0.0.0 and then i have to ping the site again |
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| 09:18 | <cahoot> | abrotman: the proxy comment intended for skott? |
| 09:18 | <abrotman> | Blacker47: uh .. i doubt it .. it sounds perfectly normal .. the kernel is buffering files .. |
| 09:18 | <abrotman> | Blacker47: what makes you think you have a memory link ? |
| 09:18 | <abrotman> | memory leak ? |
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| 09:19 | <Blacker47> | abrotman, updatedb is ready. >200 more ram consuming stays. it is not shown as buffer or cache it is just consumed ram |
| 09:19 | <abrotman> | Blacker47: how are you measuring? show us the pastes in a pastebin .. |
| 09:19 | <sophi> | Blacker47, that's just assumption, but maybie it loads shared libs, and until there's no need for extra memory, there's no need to unload them, or maybie as abroman says |
| 09:20 | <abrotman> | sounds to me like it's buffering it |
| 09:20 | <Blacker47> | sophi, updatedb should not need that much shared libs |
| 09:20 | <Blacker47> | measuring with ksensors, top, htop, free. all the same results |
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| 09:20 | <hargut> | hello |
| 09:21 | <Blacker47> | now it is: http://cxg.de/_5259cc.htm |
| 09:23 | <sophi> | Blacker47 probably not, but buffering files, maybie comand 'sync' would free some? |
| 09:23 | <sophi> | *command |
| 09:23 | <skott> | now when i do getent hosts ftp.iitm.ac.in it shows '1.0.0.0 ftp.iitm.ac.in' |
| 09:23 | <Blacker47> | no, sync don't help |
| 09:23 | <skott> | now if i ping it once , getent will show the right ip |
| 09:24 | <skott> | but after some time it will again show 1.0.0.0 for that url |
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| 09:24 | <Blacker47> | updatedb should not produce that much changes.. so it would be more cache.. |
| 09:25 | <skott> | why does it reset back to 1.0.0.0 ? |
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| 09:27 | <sophi> | Well, it's worth to try :), but maybie until You need memory, there's no need to free it, that's a quess, i see there is almost no swap usage, cleaning ram shuldn't take too much time ;) |
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| 09:29 | <Blacker47> | sophi, maybe but then there is at least a bug on reporting cache/ram size.. maybe i test it later by consuming much memory and then stop consuming and see if i would got less then prevorious |
| 09:30 | <sophi> | or turn off this updatedb :) |
| 09:31 | <sophi> | i'm curious what process use it |
| 09:33 | <skott> | could it be a caching issue with my dns server ? |
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| 09:38 | <abrotman> | Blacker47: one paste does not show a memory leak |
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| 09:39 | <abrotman> | Blacker47: and you have a very large amount of physical memory that can still be used |
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| 09:46 | <Blacker47> | abrotman, used-mem = 400, updatedb; used-mem = 630 -> not good |
| 09:46 | <abrotman> | you're counting wrong |
| 09:46 | <abrotman> | !free ram |
| 09:46 | <dpkg> | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 09:47 | <rodimus> | !xorg config |
| 09:47 | <dpkg> | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Things like resolution are configured by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. As a result, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank but you can feed xorg settings using it still. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout and use "X -configure" as a template for your handwritten xorg.conf. |
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| 09:48 | <Slurb_> | how do you list samba shares? |
| 09:48 | <abrotman> | smbclient -L |
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| 09:51 | <zimbres> | hi, I've burned debian502amd64.iso on a cd and when I boot my system I am not beeing able to boot from the cd I get the message "boot from CD/DVD: " and if i type something nothing happens and it continues an boots from hd |
| 09:51 | <zimbres> | What should I do? Did I burned the right thing? |
| 09:51 | <cahoot> | zimbres: faulty burn? |
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| 09:52 | <zimbres> | cahoot, The burning process was succesful |
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| 09:52 | <cahoot> | zimbres: yes but burnt as image or what? |
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| 09:53 | <zimbres> | cahoot, I have downloaded the file debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso and burned I think as data |
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| 09:54 | <cahoot> | zimbres: in windows? |
| 09:54 | <abrotman> | zimbres: what other OS do you have near you ? |
| 09:54 | <zimbres> | cahoot, Ubuntu |
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| 09:54 | <abrotman> | zimbres: if you put the CD in the drive on ubuntu, do you see a single .iso file on the CD or a bunch of files and directories ? |
| 09:54 | <icebrain> | hi, the only packages that depends on Hal is Xorg. Does it only uses it to cofigure devices connected after boot? Can I disable Hal? |
| 09:55 | <zimbres> | abrotman, I see only debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 09:56 | <abrotman> | then you burnt as data .. you need to burn it as an image |
| 09:56 | <abrotman> | icebrain: you could just try and see |
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| 09:58 | <icebrain> | abrotman: the problem is that xserver-xorg depends on Hal, so even if it works without it I can't remove Hal |
| 09:58 | <sophi> | Well, i know that with hal i cannot connect my olympus camera earlier, because it doesn't mount it, and there wasn't any new device in /dev, but when i turn this demon off, i could mount it by 'mount' (it makes the device dissapear in /dev), the kde3 was complaining about turned off hal, but nothing else |
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| 09:59 | <zimbres> | abrotman, What speed should I choose? |
| 09:59 | <abrotman> | i say 8x or slower |
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| 10:19 | <ans-unknown> | is there anyone establish their own google wave server? |
| 10:19 | <xeon-enouf> | icebrain: check the BTS |
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| 10:21 | <Slurb_> | microsoft is evil they took away their speech software from office 2007 |
| 10:22 | <icebrain> | xeon-enouf: why? |
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| 10:22 | <icebrain> | xeon-enouf: oh, the "Please provide a minimal hal package"? |
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| 10:25 | <icebrain> | xeon-enouf: but Xorg has to be updated to include DeviceKit support, hasn't it? |
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| 10:25 | <Slurb> | i love lenny |
| 10:26 | <Slurb> | no broken hal |
| 10:26 | <Slurb> | gcc-4.4.1 works |
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| 10:27 | <Slurb> | i have a deb if anyones interested |
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| 10:27 | <Slurb> | compiled on lenny for amd64 |
| 10:27 | <xeon-enouf> | icebrain: no, X works fine without hal |
| 10:27 | <xeon-enouf> | icebrain: there's tons of discussion there about it all - it's a bit messy |
| 10:27 | <Slurb> | hal just doesnt work without hal |
| 10:27 | <bremner> | Slurb: next step, learn reprepro and make an apt-gettable web site |
| 10:27 | <Slurb> | i like what hal does |
| 10:28 | <xeon-enouf> | icebrain: so, what's your issue with hal, to be, or not to be |
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| 10:28 | <Slurb> | !reprepro |
| 10:28 | <dpkg> | hmm... reprepro is a tool for managing a repository. See http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286 for ideas of how to set it up for you own packages. |
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| 10:29 | <xeon-enouf> | icebrain: and note; personally consolekit is the pkg that annoys the crap out of me |
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| 10:29 | <Blacker47> | [15:46:49] <abrotman> you're counting wrong <-- no. free is counting and it should not be wrong |
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| 10:29 | <icebrain> | xeon-enouf: I haven't tried any of them (*kit), but Hal seems too big for my lean config |
| 10:30 | <xeon-enouf> | !gentoosmite icebrain |
| 10:30 | * | dpkg spends 5 days recompiling icebrain, and when it's all done, icebrain runs 5% slower than previously |
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| 10:34 | <Slurb> | dpkg should have updated his libs first |
| 10:34 | <dpkg> | Slurb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 10:34 | <Slurb> | yes |
| 10:34 | <Slurb> | dpkg yes |
| 10:34 | <dpkg> | really??? wohoo! |
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| 10:40 | <eb0168> | does anyone else have a problem with nvidia-glx-ia32 and ia32-libs ? |
| 10:40 | <bremner> | yes |
| 10:40 | <eb0168> | you? |
| 10:40 | <bremner> | no |
| 10:40 | <eb0168> | who? |
| 10:40 | <bremner> | !tell eb0168 -about ask |
| 10:42 | <eb0168> | when I try to install nvidia-glx-ia32 it tells me it depends on ia32-libs but that it must not be installed |
| 10:42 | <bremner> | eb0168: are you running sid? |
| 10:42 | <eb0168> | testing |
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| 10:43 | <bremner> | ia32-libs is a mess; it is supposed to be reuploaded soon AFAIK |
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| 10:44 | <eb0168> | description of ia32-libs says it conflicts with many things (like nvidia-glx-ia32) |
| 10:44 | <eb0168> | I couldn't find a way to downgrade ia32-libs |
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| 10:45 | <goodger> | eb0168: just leave it alone for the moment |
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| 10:46 | <krystek_> | error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory, during compile cc |
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| 10:47 | <azeem> | krystek_: did you install build-essential |
| 10:48 | <krystek_> | um... no. checking ;) |
| 10:48 | <krystek_> | oh, yes, it's already installed |
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| 10:49 | <damiank> | hi |
| 10:49 | <krystek_> | azeem: i compiled kernel by my own |
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| 10:50 | <azeem> | krystek_: then maybe you didn't install the headers properly |
| 10:50 | <azeem> | if you compile your kernel on your own, you should know how to compile stuff against it as well |
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| 10:50 | <krystek_> | fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_image --initrd - that's how i created my .deb package |
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| 10:52 | <krystek_> | ah, now it's time for make-kpkg kernel_headers ;) |
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| 10:52 | <Slurb> | what port does reprepro run? |
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| 10:52 | <chahibi_> | Hello |
| 10:53 | <chahibi_> | I have just installed the stable version of Debian. I encountered several problems. |
| 10:53 | <bremner> | Slurb: it doesn't. it manipulates the file system |
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| 10:54 | <chahibi_> | I configured my system keyboard layout to use French. The result was that the console uses French but the X server was still Qwerty. It didn't change even when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. What can I do? |
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| 10:54 | <Slurb> | well how do people connect to my repository then? |
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| 10:55 | <bremner> | Slurb: via e.g. apache |
| 10:55 | <Slurb> | port 80? |
| 10:55 | <Slurb> | ok |
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| 10:55 | <chealer> | chahibi_: do you enter fr as your layout in debconf? |
| 10:55 | <bremner> | Slurb: don't you have a web page somewhere? put it there. You can rsync it to a remote host. |
| 10:56 | <chahibi_> | chealer: If you mean the installer, yes |
| 10:56 | <Slurb> | i dont have a page anywhere |
| 10:57 | <bremner> | hmm, well, running your own web server is a bit of a respsibility securitywise |
| 10:57 | <bremner> | also ISPs hate it |
| 10:57 | <mjk> | chahibi_: In section "InputDevice", Driver "kbd" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you could set: Option "XkbLayout" "fr" |
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| 10:58 | <mjk> | chahibi_: Of course, it would be nice to know why this is not in xorg.conf (or is it already?), but I can't help here ... |
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| 10:58 | <chahibi_> | mjk: xorg.conf is empty, why? |
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| 10:58 | <mjk> | chahibi_: Oh! |
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| 10:58 | <moho> | hey guys |
| 10:59 | <chealer> | chahibi_: did you restart X after using debconf? |
| 10:59 | <chahibi_> | chealer, mjk: it looks like a known bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538077 |
| 10:59 | <chealer> | chahibi_: which Debian suite do you use? |
| 10:59 | <chahibi_> | chealer, mjk: I will upgrade my system and see what it does |
| 11:00 | <chahibi_> | chealer: Debian the latest stable |
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| 11:00 | <mjk> | chahibi_: Can't make things worse ;-) |
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| 11:01 | <chahibi_> | mjk: indeed |
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| 11:01 | <chealer> | chahibi_: upgrade your xorg to the version in stable-proposed-updates, or write xorg.conf without using debconf |
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| 11:07 | <mjk> | Probably while installing all available xfonts-* pkgs, the default font for xterm ("fixed") lost its Euro character, I guess it's now iso-8859-1, whereas before it was iso-8859-15. How can I make the fixed-variant for iso-8859-15 the default without having to configure each font in my xterm app-defaults? Xorg.log prints the folllowing font path: http://pastebin.com/f28475458 |
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| 11:11 | <chahibi_> | chealer, mjk: upgrading with stable-proposed-updates fixes it, thanks |
| 11:11 | <krystek_> | azeem: headers are installed, no idea why i cant compile.. |
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| 11:18 | <mjk> | chahibi_: Good! =) |
| 11:18 | <chahibi_> | mjk: I added deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny-proposed-updates main contrib non-free |
| 11:19 | <chahibi_> | mjk: but I can't find "module-assistant" |
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| 11:21 | <mjk> | chahibi_: Hm, strange. |
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| 11:22 | <azeem> | chahibi_: why do you think m-a is in lenny-proposed-updates? |
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| 11:23 | <chahibi_> | azeem: I rather think it is in "main" |
| 11:23 | <azeem> | so what is your problem? |
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| 11:23 | <chahibi_> | azeem: I don't know what to add in sources.list to get "module-assistant" |
| 11:23 | <azeem> | nothing |
| 11:23 | <azeem> | as you said, it's in main |
| 11:24 | <azeem> | if you do not have the main lenny deb source, then your sources.list is buggy and you should fix it |
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| 11:24 | <azeem> | !sources.list |
| 11:24 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 11:25 | <melindaj> | hello,i have a usb hard drive , when i plug it in ,in lenny, i get a message 'Cannot mount volume.Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume.' |
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| 11:26 | <chahibi_> | azeem: Here is it http://paste.debian.net/43734/ |
| 11:26 | <sophi> | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=module+assistant |
| 11:26 | <melindaj> | any way to fix this problem ? |
| 11:27 | <azeem> | chahibi_: see above |
| 11:27 | <azeem> | you're missing the main lenne deb |
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| 11:29 | <melindaj> | my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/m5fd65410 |
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| 11:30 | <bremner> | melindaj: is your external drive formatted? If so, how? FAT? NTFS? |
| 11:31 | <melindaj> | bremner: any way to check that ? |
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| 11:31 | <sophi> | fdisk -l |
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| 11:32 | <chahibi_> | azeem: yes, thanks |
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| 11:32 | <melindaj> | fdisk -l gives http://pastebin.com/m5e88ca1 |
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| 11:33 | <bremner> | !ntfs |
| 11:33 | <dpkg> | [ntfs] Windows NT File System. There are 3 main drivers in Debian: the Linux kernel driver only able to read and FUSE drivers able to write too. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about the read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also <ntfsclone>, <ntfsck>, <label>. FAQ: http://linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en . http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS http://linux-ntfs.org/ |
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| 11:34 | <yoyahack> | ola |
| 11:34 | <bremner> | melindaj: /msg dpkg ntfsro |
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| 11:34 | <melindaj> | dpkg ntfsro |
| 11:34 | <dpkg> | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 11:35 | <bremner> | !ntfs-3g |
| 11:35 | <dpkg> | from memory, ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. Packaged for Debian, available for Lenny or through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org etch> for instructions). Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage . Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 11:37 | <melindaj> | bremner: should i install ntfs-3g ? |
| 11:38 | <bremner> | Maybe somebody disagrees, but I think that is the best option currently. |
| 11:38 | <melindaj> | ok |
| 11:38 | <chahibi_> | I am following http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#config-manual, there is no "Module" or "Device" section in my xorg.conf. Do I have to add them or will X automatically choose the nvidia driver? |
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| 11:39 | <melindaj> | bremner: thank u..that worked :) |
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| 11:40 | <bremner> | awesome! |
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| 11:40 | * | bremner probably shouldn't give advice when on antihistamines :) |
| 11:42 | <southernc> | !seen ml| |
| 11:42 | <dpkg> | ml| <~ml@c-98-211-162-162.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4h 41m 26s ago, saying: 'or lxde or even better just a window manger'. |
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| 11:59 | <k1lumin4t1> | Using Debian Squeeze with KDE 4.2 sound's a mess. I always need to force-reload alsa in order to get it working correctly. If i don't do it no audio related app can attach to alsa |
| 11:59 | <Slurb_> | i keep getting a file not found error when apt tries to update with my repository |
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| 12:00 | <sophi> | like there is no apt? |
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| 12:02 | <Slurb_> | yes |
| 12:02 | <bartm> | Slurb_: exact error message? |
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| 12:03 | <Slurb_> | Err http://helterskelter.homelinux.com lenny/main Packages 404 Not Found |
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| 12:04 | <bartm> | Slurb_: surf to http://helterskelter.homelinux.com and find out the exact line to put in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:04 | <Slurb_> | nothing is found |
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| 12:05 | <sophi> | use official repo? |
| 12:06 | <bartm> | sophi: exactly :) |
| 12:06 | <bremner> | he is playing with his own repo. I created a monster |
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| 12:06 | <bartm> | bremner: created a monster? |
| 12:06 | <Slurb_> | i have /home/abraham/helterskelter.homelinux.com set as apache2 root and /home/abraham/helterskelter.homelinux.com/htdocs/apt/conf/distributions as the reprepro place |
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| 12:07 | <bremner> | Slurb_: it should look like this at the url you give apt |
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| 12:07 | <bremner> | http://pivot.cs.unb.ca/debian/ |
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| 12:08 | <bremner> | bartm: encouraged this experiment=created a monster |
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| 12:08 | <bartm> | bremner: right I understand now |
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| 12:09 | <sophi> | :) |
| 12:10 | <vook> | does mutt have an address book feature and/or is it possible to save an address from an e-mail to an address book in mutt ? |
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| 12:11 | <Gathond> | vook: it does, 'a' to add an "alias" for an email sender |
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| 12:11 | <Gathond> | it will be added to ~.muttrc (or elsewhere if you have specified the aliases going elsewhere) |
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| 12:11 | <vook> | cool, thanks |
| 12:11 | <mfrisch> | Hey abrotman WHATS UP!! |
| 12:13 | <mfrisch> | what's the command to make a package list for cloneing systems??? |
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| 12:14 | <bremner> | dpkg --get-selections |
| 12:14 | <dpkg> | bremner: are you smoking crack? |
| 12:14 | <bremner> | kinda |
| 12:14 | <bartm> | dpkg: read your own manpage :) |
| 12:14 | <dpkg> | bartm: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:14 | <mfrisch> | bremner: that's it just not all of it dpkg had a blurb know it? |
| 12:15 | <vook> | apt-cache pkgnames |
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| 12:15 | <bremner> | mfrisch: sorry, nope. Try /query dpkg for a bit. She desrves it. |
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| 12:16 | <sophi> | dpkg -i windows |
| 12:16 | * | dpkg removes a liver from sophi and replaces it with windows |
| 12:16 | <sophi> | :) |
| 12:16 | <mfrisch> | bremner: figured it out well got the list and will figure out the rest when I need to THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 12:16 | <vook> | dpkg -i xmas_lemmings |
| 12:16 | * | dpkg installs xmas_lemmings into vook's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
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| 12:16 | <sophi> | lol |
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| 12:20 | <rudi_s_> | vook: If you want a more complex address book have a look at abook. |
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| 12:21 | <southernc> | or go to staples and buy one (:0P |
| 12:22 | <Slurb_> | how do i search a certain repo for files with aptitude |
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| 12:23 | <southernc> | Slurb_: if you did aptitude update just do aptitude -S filename |
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| 12:24 | <southernc> | or search |
| 12:25 | <southernc> | or you can simply just type the adress in webbrowser or ftp to it etc |
| 12:25 | <southernc> | if you want to search a specific repo |
| 12:25 | <Slurb_> | southernc: its not finding it |
| 12:26 | <southernc> | what are you looking for |
| 12:26 | <southernc> | ? |
| 12:26 | <Slurb_> | i made a repo and added it to my sources and added my gcc-4.4.1-1.deb to it and updated and its not finding it |
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| 12:27 | <southernc> | whats the repo ? |
| 12:28 | <bremner> | Slurb_: it's a web site. Surf it. |
| 12:28 | <hoploop> | repository fil |
| 12:28 | <southernc> | no hes saying he made a pkg and added it to his own repo so he can share it |
| 12:29 | <hoploop> | k |
| 12:29 | <Slurb_> | deb "http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt" main contrib nonfree |
| 12:29 | <southernc> | nice name lol |
| 12:29 | <craigevil> | gcc-4.4.1-1 is in sid why not just backport it |
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| 12:30 | <southernc> | charles manson |
| 12:30 | <Slurb_> | craig then it would require sid libraries |
| 12:30 | <Slurb_> | big hassle |
| 12:30 | <Slurb_> | so i just built one |
| 12:30 | <Slurb_> | apt keeps thinking 4.3 is newer though |
| 12:30 | <bremner> | this word backport, I do not think it means what you think it means |
| 12:30 | <southernc> | deb "http://helterskelter.homelinux.com" apt main contrib |
| 12:31 | <southernc> | ... |
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| 12:31 | <Slurb_> | deb "http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt" lenny main contrib nonfree |
| 12:31 | <Slurb_> | sorry |
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| 12:31 | <southernc> | you need to add a / if your gonna do it that way |
| 12:32 | <southernc> | deb "http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt" lenny main contrib |
| 12:32 | <southernc> | deb "http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt/" lenny main contrib |
| 12:32 | <Slurb_> | deb http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt lenny main non-free contrib |
| 12:32 | <Slurb_> | trhats the exact line |
| 12:32 | <craigevil> | bremner: idk about gcc but things like pidgin, gimp, iceweasel are pretty simple to build from sid on lenny |
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| 12:33 | <bremner> | my princess bride reference was for Slurb_ |
| 12:33 | <hoploop> | on my debian testing iceweasel comes with big characters and I can't make them smaller |
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| 12:34 | <southernc> | hoploop: sit further away |
| 12:34 | <hoploop> | stupid gnome-based softwares... |
| 12:36 | <southernc> | Slurb: first your dir structure is messed up |
| 12:36 | <southernc> | http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt dists lenny main |
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| 12:36 | <git-hi9h> | can i get iceweasel 3.5 in lenny easy enough yet? or do i have to build it? |
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| 12:37 | <southernc> | Slurb: secondly there is no gcc pkg on that server regardless of the path |
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| 12:38 | <southernc> | nevermind i found it |
| 12:38 | <southernc> | http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt pool main |
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| 12:38 | <southernc> | so |
| 12:38 | <southernc> | deb "http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt" pool main |
| 12:38 | <craigevil> | git-hi9h: either build it or follow the howto here> http://glandium.org/blog/?p=406 |
| 12:39 | <git-hi9h> | thank you! |
| 12:39 | <southernc> | deb http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt/ pool main |
| 12:40 | <southernc> | is what should be in your sources.list |
| 12:40 | <Slurb> | it still doesnt find it in aptitude |
| 12:40 | <southernc> | ^^^^ |
| 12:40 | <Slurb> | i did change it to pool and still no go |
| 12:40 | <southernc> | after adding it update your cache |
| 12:40 | <Slurb> | i did |
| 12:40 | <southernc> | deb http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt/ pool main <<< it looks exactly like that |
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| 12:41 | <Slurb> | no still doesnt find a gcc 4.4.1 |
| 12:42 | <southernc> | deb http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt/ pool main g gcc <<< it looks exactly like that |
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| 12:43 | <southernc> | u have t setup rather oddly |
| 12:43 | <southernc> | it is in the correct place as pool is where a package goes to get verified etc before going to main |
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| 12:47 | <Slurb> | so how do i get it to move to main? |
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| 12:48 | <southernc> | is that your server ? |
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| 12:48 | <Slurb> | yes |
| 12:48 | <southernc> | .... |
| 12:49 | <southernc> | ermm well after you verify you havent uploaded a virus lol move it to main.. |
| 12:49 | <craigevil> | why not just set it up like deb ftp://cathbard.com/ ./ rather than messing with the main contrib non-free |
| 12:50 | <southernc> | if you own the server move the file to wherever you like |
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| 12:50 | <southernc> | craigevil: hes gonna upload hundreds of pks it would get messy otherwise :) |
| 12:52 | <southernc> | his indexes arent setup right anyway so hes gotta fix that before he does anything |
| 12:52 | <Slurb> | it was all set up by reprepro and it is correct |
| 12:53 | <southernc> | Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 12:53 | <Slurb> | if you add deb http://helterskelter.homelinux.com/apt/ lenny main it updates right |
| 12:53 | <southernc> | mm |
| 12:53 | <Slurb> | its just that reprepro is keeping it in pool |
| 12:53 | <Slurb> | i dont know how to get reprepro to move it |
| 12:54 | <southernc> | well technically a person isnt suppose to download a file from pool its a bad idea |
| 12:54 | <southernc> | so thats prolly what is going on |
| 12:54 | <Slurb> | i think so too |
| 12:54 | <bremner> | it is perfectly normal for all debs to be stored in pool |
| 12:54 | <Slurb> | i just need to figure out how to move it along |
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| 12:54 | <Squelos> | hi |
| 12:55 | <Squelos> | any solution for the iceweasel/flash problem ? |
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| 12:55 | <Slurb> | get flashplugin-nonfree from backports |
| 12:55 | <southernc> | bremner: um no pool is where a package gets uploaded to before going to main as it has to get verified checksums etc |
| 12:55 | <user01> | hi, i have an ext2 formatted flash drive and debian lenny seems to have made everything on the disk root permissions so i cant share it with my other linux computers . . . how to fix? |
| 12:56 | <Squelos> | slurb, from backports ? I did get the flashpluging non free |
| 12:56 | <craigevil> | southernc: no, most of the time when i grab a .deb i get it from pool |
| 12:56 | <southernc> | ... |
| 12:56 | <craigevil> | thast where i downloaded iw 3.5.1 |
| 12:56 | <bremner> | southernc: I think you're confused here, but am not going to argue about it. |
| 12:56 | <craigevil> | go look through a debian repo |
| 12:56 | <Slurb> | Squelos: it works for me all though i use epiphany |
| 12:57 | <southernc> | hmm guess i am confused |
| 12:57 | <Squelos> | slurb, what does : from backports ? |
| 12:58 | <Slurb> | yep |
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| 12:58 | <sophi> | user01, go to root of the device as root, and execute chmod -R 666 *, that makes everyone able to read/write |
| 12:59 | <sophi> | 'chmod -R 666 *' |
| 12:59 | <sophi> | chown if you wanna change root |
| 12:59 | <sophi> | or umask I think when You mount it |
| 12:59 | <Squelos> | uh sorry, what does from backports mean ? |
| 12:59 | <Slurb> | bbl |
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| 13:00 | <amphi> | sophi: the permissions of the beast are not necessarily a Good Thing |
| 13:00 | <Squelos> | fuck |
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| 13:00 | <user01> | sophi, you mean the ../media/disk directory? |
| 13:00 | <Squelos> | does anyone know what getting a paquet from backports mean ? |
| 13:00 | <craigevil> | Squelos: it means from backport.org unless your on testing or sid |
| 13:00 | <craigevil> | !backports.org |
| 13:00 | <dpkg> | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
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| 13:01 | <Squelos> | im on testing |
| 13:01 | <sophi> | amphi: maybie not the best idea, but a solution :) |
| 13:01 | <sophi> | user01: probably, depends where it is mounted |
| 13:02 | <sophi> | permision of the beast.... 666 :) |
| 13:03 | <user01> | sophi, i tried it and it says stale NFS handle |
| 13:03 | <user01> | file handle on one |
| 13:03 | <vook> | do a lazy umount |
| 13:04 | <Squelos> | craig, if my flash player is crashing, is it because of the testing version ? can i download a stable flash player with a command ? |
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| 13:04 | <user01> | whats a lazy umount? |
| 13:04 | <user01> | a regular umount ? |
| 13:05 | <vook> | user01: try 'df' does the volume show as mounted but now accessible ? |
| 13:05 | <sophi> | umount -l (mountpoint or device) |
| 13:05 | <vook> | now/not |
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| 13:06 | <craigevil> | Squelos: check about:config in iceweasel and double check what it is using for flash, i use flashplayer-mozilla from dmm shouldnt be a difference but flash rarely ever crashes iw/firefox here |
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| 13:06 | <user01> | vook, yep |
| 13:06 | <vook> | yep, as sophi said 'umount -l <mountpoint> |
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| 13:07 | <user01> | ok then what? :) |
| 13:07 | <southernc> | craig what arch you using ? |
| 13:07 | <user01> | pull out and plug back in? |
| 13:07 | <vook> | well, now it isn't stale at least |
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| 13:08 | <craigevil> | southernc: 32bit |
| 13:08 | <southernc> | ahh was gonna ask if you got flash working for chrome on 64 |
| 13:08 | <Squelos> | im using shockwave flash |
| 13:08 | <sophi> | once in my lifetime by accident i executed sth like that umount -l /dev ... the result was funny :) |
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| 13:08 | <user01> | sophi, so what do i do after the umount? |
| 13:08 | <vook> | user01: you can mount the device manually. dmesg | grep sda or hda |
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| 13:09 | <vook> | fdisk -l /dev/hdc /dev/sdc |
| 13:09 | <vook> | ...etc |
| 13:09 | <sophi> | use fdisk -l to find the device, mount it by command mount, and change the privileges after |
| 13:09 | <user01> | vook, fdisk fixes the disk? |
| 13:10 | <user01> | oh it finds the disk |
| 13:10 | <vook> | fdisk -l <device> shows the partitions on the disk |
| 13:10 | <vook> | (if they exist) |
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| 13:11 | <user01> | mmmm Disk /dev/sdb1 doesn't contain a valid partition table |
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| 13:11 | <vook> | if it's an oosba device, you don't really need to partition it. |
| 13:11 | <vook> | /dev/sdb |
| 13:12 | <vook> | you could just mkfs.reiserfs /dev/sdb |
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| 13:12 | <user01> | vook, but i have data on it |
| 13:12 | <vook> | oh, don't do that then |
| 13:12 | <vook> | hehe |
| 13:12 | <sophi> | probably not anymore :) |
| 13:12 | <user01> | can i do a fsck on it? |
| 13:13 | <vook> | do you know the filesystem type |
| 13:13 | <vook> | ? |
| 13:13 | <user01> | ext2 |
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| 13:13 | <vook> | fsck.ext2 /dev/sdb1 |
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| 13:14 | <user01> | Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdb1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program? |
| 13:15 | <sophi> | umount -l /dev/sdb1 |
| 13:15 | <user01> | ok did that, still doesnt work |
| 13:16 | <user01> | should i unplug plug back in and run it on /media/disk? |
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| 13:16 | <vook> | ps aux | grep sdb1 (it could be nfs that has a handle) /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop && /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop , then the same with start |
| 13:17 | <vook> | there is some command to display what process is using a device (like fuser) I don't remember off hand. |
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| 13:18 | <sophi> | lsof ? |
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| 13:18 | <vook> | yep |
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| 13:19 | <sophi> | i didn't know about it :)... searched by man from fuser for curiosity :) |
| 13:20 | <user01> | The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 |
| 13:20 | <user01> | filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 |
| 13:20 | <user01> | filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 |
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| 13:20 | <SuperMiguel> | anyone is using BootToRAM? |
| 13:20 | <user01> | let me at least see if i cant copy the data off first |
| 13:21 | <vook> | are you certain that it's ext2 (not reiser or vfat ?) |
| 13:21 | <user01> | yep |
| 13:21 | <user01> | thats how i formatted it |
| 13:21 | <user01> | and thats how its been working |
| 13:21 | <user01> | until i shared it on debian lenny |
| 13:21 | <user01> | was working ok on ubuntu computers |
| 13:22 | <vook> | user01: how big is the drive ? |
| 13:22 | <user01> | and windoze with ext2 enabled |
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| 13:22 | <user01> | 4 gb |
| 13:22 | <vook> | it may be a good idea to make a backup of this device before you go further. |
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| 13:23 | <vook> | dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=thumbdrive.iso |
| 13:24 | <user01> | no such file or directory |
| 13:24 | <vook> | you can then attempt to mount the backup with 'mount -o loop thumbdrive.iso mountpoint' and/or handle the iso like a filesystem |
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| 13:25 | <vook> | user01: what does fdisk -l /dev/sdb show ? |
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| 13:29 | <vook> | !dpkg smack vook |
| 13:29 | * | dpkg smacks vook upside the head. |
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| 13:36 | <user01> | vook, ok i copied all the data off . . . it was one jpeg file that appears to be corrupt |
| 13:36 | <user01> | and interfering with everything |
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| 13:36 | <sophi> | so You fixed it? |
| 13:37 | <user01> | not sure |
| 13:37 | <user01> | can i just format the disk? |
| 13:37 | <sophi> | yes |
| 13:37 | <sophi> | mkfs.ext2 or mkfs.reiserfs |
| 13:37 | <user01> | i copied everything off onto a windows box with ext2 enabled :) |
| 13:37 | <sophi> | or whatever You want :) |
| 13:38 | <sophi> | strange |
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| 13:38 | <Slurb> | ok gave up on the repo server |
| 13:39 | <sophi> | But if You have backup of data, so You may format the drive |
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| 13:39 | <user01> | so plug it in, umount it and do mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1 ? |
| 13:39 | <sophi> | Yes |
| 13:40 | <joek> | hello, im using lenny and want to install the linux-headers for my kernel v2.6.26-1-686 |
| 13:40 | <joek> | but when i do apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 13:40 | <joek> | i get "Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686" |
| 13:41 | <joek> | any way to fix this ? |
| 13:41 | <sophi> | apt-cache search linux headers |
| 13:41 | <user01> | sophim ok i think it worked, now what do i do to get permissions? |
| 13:42 | <sophi> | user01: chmod -R 666 * (WHEN YOU ARE IN MOUNTPOINT DIR!!!!) |
| 13:43 | <user01> | ok so . . . unplug, plug back in and go there and run that |
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| 13:44 | <user01> | sophi, will it keep the same permissions no matter what? |
| 13:44 | <joek> | sophi: i did aptitude search linux-headers and this is what i get http://pastebin.com/m633ddc33 |
| 13:44 | <user01> | sophi, like if another user copies files on it? |
| 13:44 | <joek> | is it ok if i install the linux-headers package ? |
| 13:44 | <craigevil> | joek: do you have deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main in your sources.list |
| 13:45 | <joek> | craigevil: that is commented out in sources.list |
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| 13:45 | <user01> | this has been a great class in usb devices thanks everyone! hehe |
| 13:45 | <craigevil> | uncomment it run aptitude update then try again |
| 13:45 | <joek> | ok |
| 13:45 | <sophi> | oh, i'm not sure, probably You will have to change permisions to mount directory after mount, because inheriting |
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| 13:46 | <SuperMiguel> | anyone is using BootToRAM? |
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| 13:49 | <user01> | sophi, grrr it says i dont have permissions |
| 13:50 | <user01> | to write to it after the chmod 666 |
| 13:50 | <user01> | chown is better maybe? |
| 13:51 | <joek> | craigevil: thanks..it worked after i uncommented and ran apt-get update |
| 13:51 | <sophi> | i'm not sure how it gonna be with new files, but probably You will have only to change permisions to root directory of mountpoint |
| 13:52 | <user01> | the /media? |
| 13:52 | <user01> | or /media/disk ? |
| 13:52 | <sophi> | as root try again to execute chmod 666 /media/disk (or whatever the mountpoint) |
| 13:52 | <craigevil> | joek: when weird crap like that happens it helps to search packages.debian.org |
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| 13:53 | <sophi> | chown changes the owner, but if You will be changing computer, so the users will change, so no point :) |
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| 13:53 | <user01> | sophi nope |
| 13:54 | <sophi> | nope? |
| 13:54 | <user01> | nope |
| 13:54 | <sophi> | the users are same and they have same uid and gid? |
| 13:55 | <user01> | not sure what you mean by that . . . |
| 13:55 | <sophi> | ok whatever :)... have You executed the chmod? |
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| 13:56 | <user01> | yep |
| 13:56 | <user01> | sophi let me see what happens if i login as root gui |
| 13:56 | <user01> | brb! |
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| 14:04 | <user01> | hey soph it work now when i changed /media/disk to chown -R user01:users |
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| 14:04 | <sophi> | user01: oh crap, i forgot that for directory +x is an enter privilege, so better do chmod 777 :) |
| 14:05 | <sophi> | user01: are You planing to use the drive on different computers? |
| 14:05 | <user01> | sophi, that would be the point of a flash disk . . . |
| 14:06 | <user01> | well wait im late for a dinner |
| 14:06 | <sophi> | the issue is that the filesystem stories the userprivileges by numbers, gid and uid, so on different computers there could be different users |
| 14:06 | <user01> | yep |
| 14:06 | <user01> | different uid and gid |
| 14:07 | <user01> | so i should do chmod 777 on the entire flash disk? |
| 14:07 | <sophi> | wait a sec |
| 14:08 | <sophi> | ok, so make the privileges 777 for the mountpoint, so everybody can create new files etc |
| 14:09 | <user01> | chmod 777 -R /media/disk? |
| 14:09 | <sophi> | i'm not sure what makes the decision of privileges for new files, is it umask, or the program itself ;) |
| 14:09 | <sophi> | yes, but without -R |
| 14:10 | <sophi> | if You have formated the disk it is empty anyway |
| 14:10 | <user01> | yes well it has a lost and found file and a text file i used for testing copying |
| 14:10 | <user01> | ooops im late for dinner |
| 14:10 | <user01> | bye! |
| 14:10 | <user01> | thanks! |
| 14:10 | <sophi> | bye |
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| 14:28 | <southernc> | hey craigevil you there ? |
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| 14:32 | <chahibi> | Hello back |
| 14:32 | <Squelos> | bbl |
| 14:32 | <chahibi> | How can I get suspend/hibernate to work with Nvidia non free drivers? |
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| 14:38 | <weasel> | hibernate just works[TM] for me |
| 14:38 | <Tasneem> | HEY |
| 14:38 | <Gathond> | chahibi: DON'T have acpi change from X to console |
| 14:38 | <Gathond> | as the binary Nvidia POS can't manage that without crashing horibly |
| 14:38 | <Tasneem> | WHATS UR NAMES |
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| 14:40 | <chahibi> | Gathond: How do you prevent that? |
| 14:41 | <Gathond> | some setting somewhere in the hibernate/suspend configuration |
| 14:41 | <Gathond> | can't remember exactly where, but it has a comment about it |
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| 14:53 | <Slurb> | get the driver from nvidia's site |
| 14:53 | <OdyX> | !nvidia |
| 14:53 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 14:54 | <Slurb> | i know its not supported here but it might fix the issue |
| 14:54 | <Slurb> | debian install the 173 driver |
| 14:54 | <Slurb> | lots of fixes in the 185 driver |
| 14:55 | <olet> | not necesarily |
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| 14:56 | <Slurb> | debian stable is the 173 driver |
| 14:56 | <Slurb> | squeeze and lenny are not supported here as well |
| 14:56 | <Slurb> | i mean squeeze and sid |
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| 14:58 | <sun> | hi i have 2 soundcards, one builtin and another external usb. id like to have flash play on the builtin soundcard, but its going to the usb soundcard. how can i fix it? |
| 14:58 | <Slurb> | how do you suspend/hibernate anyway? |
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| 15:06 | <valdyn> | sun: flash goes to the default alsa device, thats the one with the lower id or the one explicitely set to be default in ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf |
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| 15:06 | <Slurb> | god i remember how hard a time i had installing the nvidia driver from the nvidia site, but it was well worth it in th amount of things that work now as opposed to how they worked before |
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| 15:07 | <Slurb> | and i also think that things supported here should cover anything debian |
| 15:08 | <valdyn> | Slurb: we always help with getting the right nvidia driver |
| 15:08 | <valdyn> | Slurb: we dont help you running sid though |
| 15:08 | <Slurb> | i dont have sid |
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| 15:09 | <Slurb> | sid is broken |
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| 15:11 | <Slurb> | sun: you still here? |
| 15:12 | <Slurb> | sun: the easiest way would be to select it as default in system>preferences>sound in the gnome menu |
| 15:13 | <Slurb> | sun: if that doesnt work you will have to edit your asoundrc |
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| 15:13 | <sun> | slurb ok thanks |
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| 15:25 | <icebrain> | Slurb: why do you say that? I run sid |
| 15:26 | <Slurb> | because sid doesnt do what i need it to |
| 15:27 | <Slurb> | in particular wine doesnt work |
| 15:27 | <Slurb> | and overall its about ten times more work to maintain |
| 15:27 | <icebrain> | oh, I use the reps from winehq |
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| 15:30 | <OdyX> | wine works since yesterday.... |
| 15:30 | <Slurb> | is red hat/fedora debian based? |
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| 15:31 | <bremner> | no |
| 15:31 | <Slurb> | they use rpm but still have apt |
| 15:32 | <Slurb> | kinda |
| 15:32 | <bremner> | well, depends on your definitions. Debian uses stuff from red hat too. |
| 15:32 | <OdyX> | "based" => no. |
| 15:32 | <Slurb> | which came first is what im looking for |
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| 15:33 | <Slurb> | !redhat |
| 15:34 | <bremner> | Slurb: maybe better for #debian-offtopic, or google/wikipedia |
| 15:34 | <Gathond> | Slurb: I'm sure wikipedia can answer that |
| 15:34 | <Gathond> | or redhat.com and debian.com |
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| 16:14 | <alex111> | hi there! is there a good roulette game in debian? I dont see any in synaptic.... |
| 16:16 | <dr|z3d> | alex111: Maybe KRouletteSim ? |
| 16:16 | <mart> | hello |
| 16:17 | <envyless> | /leave |
| 16:17 | <mart> | I've a (big) problem with my system and I don't know if I should send a bug report |
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| 16:17 | <alex111> | hmmm, I don't see any kroulettesim in lenny... |
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| 16:18 | <alex111> | dr|z3d, what version do you run? |
| 16:18 | <mart> | I'm unable to upgrade, install or remove any package because of a dependency conflict with ia32-libs |
| 16:18 | <mart> | when I try an aptitude safe-upgrade : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/131751/ |
| 16:18 | <dr|z3d> | alex111: I don't. |
| 16:18 | <mart> | thank you |
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| 16:19 | <k4m> | server |
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| 16:21 | <mason_> | how do i remote connect to another desktop in the house and take control i use the program given by debian but doesnt connect. |
| 16:21 | <k4m> | server irc.westwood.com login k4m chicken1 |
| 16:21 | <rudi_s_> | mason_: vnc |
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| 16:22 | <bremner> | k4m: the slash key is probably on the bottom right of your keyboard |
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| 16:24 | <mason_> | rudi_S_, How to get? It cost money. |
| 16:25 | <rudi_s_> | mason_: tightvncserver (never used it though, only used the client). |
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| 16:29 | <mason_> | rudi_s_, how do i get it? |
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| 16:30 | <rudi_s_> | mason_: aptitude install tightvncserver ; also have a look at the homepage www.tightvnc.com |
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| 16:31 | <mason_> | rudi_s_, now this will let me remote to my other linux desktop? |
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| 16:32 | <bremner> | !sshx |
| 16:32 | <dpkg> | You can run X11 apps over an ssh connection so that neither <xhost> nor X tcp support are necessary. Enable X11Forwarding *on the remote server* (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (lenny) or xbase-clients (etch) on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. Authorisation is only given to your remote user to connect and $DISPLAY is set. Also ask me about <root x>. |
| 16:32 | <bremner> | mason_: ^ |
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| 17:40 | <black> | hi i m searchin for a solution to run all processes only on one core. someone her who could help me? :S |
| 17:42 | <locklace> | man taskset |
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| 17:48 | <Celdecea> | can anyone give me a hint as to what would cause repeated "eth0 Link is up<100 MBps full duplex" messages every time I try to ping, lynx, host, or even route? |
| 17:49 | <deniz> | i f*cked things up on my squeeze installation so im upgrading to sid and will then switch my sources.list back to squeeze, this won't cause any issues? would it? the idea is to wait till squeeze becomes newer or as new as the current snapshot of sid that i am getting atm |
| 17:49 | <Celdecea> | there is no evidence in logs that it is going down in between |
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| 17:49 | <azeem> | deniz: why do you think upgrading to sid will help? |
| 17:50 | <deniz> | azeem, because i was trying to compile something from sid and compiled lots of xorg stuff and fglrx stuff and did lots of apt-get install -f commands and have lost track of the changes |
| 17:50 | <deniz> | i should of obtained squeeze's fglrx then done all this using a GUI |
| 17:50 | <deniz> | it's hard to read dependencies on a console |
| 17:52 | <Squelos1> | hi, ive got problems with my flash plugin for iceweasel |
| 17:52 | <deniz> | ok u no wat this isnt worth it, im just gonna reinstall lenny and upgrade to squeeze overnight |
| 17:52 | <Squelos1> | it keeps closing iceweasel when i go onto a page with flash on it ... |
| 17:54 | <locsmif> | Squelos1, have you cleaned out your cache and such? |
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| 17:54 | <locsmif> | CTRL-SHIFT-DEL |
| 17:54 | <Squelos1> | no, ill try. |
| 17:54 | <locsmif> | (while in FF) |
| 17:54 | <Squelos1> | yeah, i know how to do that :) wait ill try |
| 17:54 | <locsmif> | Remove all that you can miss |
| 17:54 | <locsmif> | It's good for your privacy anyway ;-) |
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| 17:55 | <locsmif> | If it doesn't work, start IW in safe mode and try that |
| 17:55 | <locsmif> | If that doesn't work, examine if you have any outdated plugins installed |
| 17:55 | <deniz> | with an lvm setup there are physical volumes volume groups and logical volumes but wat is the tiny partition that manages these volumes? is that just called lvm? |
| 17:55 | <locsmif> | If that doesn't work...reinstall the flash plugin |
| 17:56 | <Squelos1> | im just after installing it locsmif |
| 17:56 | <Squelos1> | could it be because im in testing ? |
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| 17:57 | <locsmif> | Squelos1, no iea |
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| 17:58 | <locsmif> | idea* |
| 17:58 | <locsmif> | Flash is closed source, so it's always going to give you problems |
| 17:58 | <locsmif> | closed source blobs have that disadvantage, unfortunately |
| 17:58 | <Squelos1> | no open source flash thingy ? |
| 17:58 | <locsmif> | They require/depend on some sort of stable API that isn't there |
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| 17:59 | <Squelos1> | i thought there was something to replace flash |
| 17:59 | <locsmif> | Squelos1, well, Gnash, but Gnash is kinda ... not good enough |
| 17:59 | <themill> | moonlight! |
| 17:59 | * | themill hide |
| 17:59 | <dr|z3d> | Squelos1: There is, it's called SVG and javascript. :) |
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| 17:59 | <dr|z3d> | You better had hide, themill. .;P |
| 17:59 | <Squelos> | SVG ? |
| 17:59 | <Squelos> | what does SVG stand for ? |
| 18:00 | <Celdecea> | scalable vector graphics |
| 18:00 | <dr|z3d> | Not exactly patent unemcumbered, moonlight.. |
| 18:00 | <Squelos> | oh |
| 18:00 | <dr|z3d> | Scalable vector Graphics. |
| 18:00 | <dr|z3d> | And what Celdecea said. |
| 18:00 | <dr|z3d> | It's not quite ready for the bigtime, but it's certainly something to watch. |
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| 18:02 | <locsmif> | In the mean time, we have to deal with all that Flash crap, so we're essentially FORCED to use a trojan from Adobe |
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| 18:03 | <locsmif> | This is why I hate all living beings |
| 18:03 | <Squelos> | yeah i heard about that. |
| 18:03 | <Squelos> | hum |
| 18:03 | <Squelos> | LFS ? |
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| 18:04 | <revcom> | l |
| 18:05 | <Celdecea> | alright, I note that netstat -nr doesn't raise a "link is up" message like route does, can't ping the internet or resolve hosts and can't lynx to the router |
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| 18:05 | <Celdecea> | but rebooting in xp everything works so its not hardware specifically |
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| 18:07 | <Celdecea> | does any of this sound familiar to anyone? |
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| 18:11 | <vvas> | Celdecea: are you using DHCP or not? |
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| 18:11 | <Celdecea> | no, static |
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| 18:12 | <Celdecea> | vvas: it makes little sense to me, it was working for months and nothing has changed |
| 18:12 | <hrvoje> | hello all. has anyone manage to get Skype working on AMD64 architecture? |
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| 18:13 | <vvas> | hrvoje: yes |
| 18:13 | <vvas> | Celdecea: no hardware or software changes, on either the computer or the router? |
| 18:13 | <hrvoje> | was: how? i force-installed it with lib32 but no luck so far... |
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| 18:14 | <vvas> | hrvoje: in lenny, installing ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk and then installing the 32-bit skype .deb should be enough, i think |
| 18:14 | <Celdecea> | vvas: admittedly, this is a dual boot xp/etch box and I only use debian for compile testing, so alot changes on the xp partition |
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| 18:14 | <deniz> | what's the best way to wipe a hard drive with lvm clean? |
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| 18:14 | <vvas> | (certainly that's what i did at some point, though i ran unstable) |
| 18:14 | <Ops1WebCommand> | hi * |
| 18:14 | <deniz> | using a live cd that is |
| 18:15 | <hrvoje> | was: should I install ia32-libs-gtk as I'm on KDE? |
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| 18:15 | <deniz> | rm -rf seems to alwyas leave things behind |
| 18:15 | <vvas> | hrvoje: it doesn't hurt |
| 18:15 | <Ops1WebCommand> | N-E1 know of video tutorials(youtube,vid.goog.c, etc.) for legKnoppix? |
| 18:16 | <vvas> | deniz: i'm not sure i understand your question |
| 18:16 | <abrotman> | Ops1WebCommand: ask #knoppix on irc.freenode.net |
| 18:16 | <Ops1WebCommand> | #knoppix |
| 18:16 | <Ops1WebCommand> | ? |
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| 18:16 | <Ops1WebCommand> | how do I do this? |
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| 18:17 | <vvas> | hrvoje: plus it was a fairly catch-all name, the package also includes Qt actually |
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| 18:17 | <shaktale> | s |
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| 18:17 | <hrvoje> | was: libc6-i386: Breaks: ia32-libs-gtk (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed ##no solution found.. I'm on testing with not much stuff installed |
| 18:17 | <abrotman> | Ops1WebCommand: /server irc.freenode.net .. once it connects, /join #knoppix |
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| 18:17 | <Ops1WebCommand> | ok. thank you |
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| 18:17 | <hrvoje> | was: coz i switched to KDE4 and need to disable all experimental and unstable repos i had on KDE3.. |
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| 18:18 | <vvas> | hrvoje: if you're on testing i can't help i'm afraid, the whole multiarch thing is in a bit of a mess at the moment |
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| 18:18 | <vvas> | what i said only applies for stable |
| 18:18 | <hrvoje> | was: ok thanks anyway, will try using ekiga |
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| 18:19 | <hrvoje> | and has anyone managed to install Helixplayer (RealPlayer10Gold) on AMD64? |
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| 18:22 | <deniz_> | vvas, ok so im on a ubuntu 9.04 live cd and yes this is related to debian since it was debian squeeze on it before, i just want to know like how to wipe the whole hdd clean, i have a 250gb hdd with windows vista and a 500gb hdd that had squeeze, i want to wipe the whole squeeze drive clean so i can start from scratch so: http://pastebin.com/m2827f129 i would do sudo rm -rf /dev/sdb1 and sudo rm -rf /dev/sdb2 but then i see in computer that there |
| 18:22 | <deniz_> | is this 255mb partition, is that the volume group? (i am not so familiar with vlm), how do i remove it? if i remove that (after having removed sdb1 and sdb2), it would mean the whole hdd is wiped clean, right? |
| 18:23 | <deniz_> | this is probably a very basic question but it's not too obvious to me at the moment |
| 18:23 | <vvas> | deniz_: to zero out a partition (if that's what you're trying to do), i would use something like: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXX bs=1M |
| 18:24 | <Wooga_tc> | how do i configure my sound card, since alsaconf was removed from alsa-utls? |
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| 18:24 | <deniz_> | vvas, zero-out means to wipe it to "military standards"? |
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| 18:24 | <bike> | or you could do cfdisk -z |
| 18:24 | <vvas> | deniz_: (or you could use /dev/sdX for the entire drive) |
| 18:24 | <vvas> | deniz_: heh, yeah sort of |
| 18:25 | <vvas> | deniz_: otherwise what bike said, just erase the partition table |
| 18:25 | <bremner> | deniz_: or use shred |
| 18:25 | <vvas> | deniz_: when you rm the device file, you don't actually erase the partition, you only erase the special file in /dev that programs use to access it |
| 18:25 | <vvas> | deniz_: does that make sense? |
| 18:25 | <bremner> | !shred |
| 18:25 | <dpkg> | shred, rap, powd, dude |
| 18:26 | <bremner> | lame |
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| 18:27 | <deniz_> | vvas, well the special file concept has me a little confused but the way i see it: cfdisk -z does a fast job and the zero-ing out method is if ur gonna sell ur hdd and i have no idea what shred is |
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| 18:27 | <deniz_> | am i correct so far? |
| 18:27 | <vvas> | pretty much |
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| 18:28 | <bremner> | shred is like zeroing out, but serious |
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| 18:29 | <vvas> | so yeah, if you want to create/modify/erase partitions, use a partition table editor like cfdisk, manipulating the files in /dev is not the way to do it |
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| 18:30 | <vvas> | bremner: yeah, i always do a shred -z (three iterations, then zero) before giving away a hard drive :^) |
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| 18:30 | <vvas> | hm, or maybe a shred -n1 -z most likely |
| 18:30 | <deniz_> | vvas, bremner, bike, thanks, ill read on zero-ing out/shred later but for now cfdisk -z seems to be what i want |
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| 18:30 | <deniz_> | by the way military standards r 7 overwrites i read |
| 18:31 | <bike> | np |
| 18:31 | <vvas> | interesting |
| 18:31 | <bike> | the other ones are good tips tho, didnt think f it or consider it |
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| 18:32 | <bike> | deniz_, r7? |
| 18:32 | <abrotman> | !dban |
| 18:32 | <dpkg> | Darik's Boot and Nuke ("DBAN") is a self-contained boot floppy/CD that securely wipes the hard disks of most computers (x86, x86-64, powerpc). DBAN will automatically and completely delete the contents of any hard disk that it can detect, which makes it an appropriate utility for bulk or emergency data destruction. http://www.dban.org/faq |
| 18:32 | <bike> | huh nice |
| 18:32 | <Celdecea> | thanks anyway guys, I am giving up on google for the day and will just reinstall etch in the morning. there is nothing critical on that partition |
| 18:32 | <Celdecea> | been one heck of a head scratcher though |
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| 18:33 | <bike> | could be made to boot from a usb ? |
| 18:33 | <abrotman> | Celdecea: why not install lenny ? |
| 18:33 | <bike> | "for floppy disks and USB flash drives." |
| 18:33 | <bike> | nice |
| 18:33 | <deniz_> | bike, are seven* |
| 18:34 | <Celdecea> | I don't have disks for Lenny and I've never been able to get the network install started |
| 18:34 | <Celdecea> | and too long of a download ;-) |
| 18:34 | <abrotman> | get disks ? |
| 18:34 | <bike> | uuugh and it comes in a stinkin .exe file |
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| 18:35 | <Celdecea> | abrotman: I don't have a week to wait, but yes one day I will upgrade |
| 18:35 | <bike> | wth, i cant unpack it even |
| 18:35 | <abrotman> | so install etch, then dist-upgrade to etch ? |
| 18:35 | <abrotman> | erm .. to lenny ? |
| 18:35 | <deniz_> | vvas, bike bremner, so wait i do: cfdisk -z /dev/sdb ? |
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| 18:35 | <bike> | deniz_, yep |
| 18:36 | <deniz_> | thanks :) |
| 18:36 | <bike> | man i miss a "open terminal" here button in nautilus |
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| 18:37 | <deniz_> | bike, cant u make a keyboard shortcut to just open a terminal? i use to use the windows (super user key) but it has a bug in squeeze |
| 18:37 | <Celdecea> | abrotman: if I manage to get the internet working tomorrow, I will take your advice |
| 18:37 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: yes.. are you on KDE or GNOME? |
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| 18:37 | <Celdecea> | ctrl+alt+f1 opens a term right? |
| 18:37 | <vvas> | bike: yeah it's a very convenient feature in konqueror, even more so since it's bound to F4 |
| 18:37 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, GNOME, why? |
| 18:37 | <bike> | could probably , but i use lxde with xfce4 loaded on one screen and a clean xfce4 session on the other screen |
| 18:37 | <hrvoje> | Celdecea: hehe yes :) F1-F6 |
| 18:38 | <abrotman> | Celdecea: you don't have another NIC? |
| 18:38 | <Celdecea> | the nic works, I am using it now and was using it on the etch install for almost a year |
| 18:38 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: in GNOME it's a bit complicate and I can't remember now, but sth to do with gconf... |
| 18:38 | <bike> | went trough a small hell with session saving etc to get the dual screen thing i wanted |
| 18:38 | <bike> | lxde doesnt seem to like two screens at all |
| 18:38 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, you mean for the bug i mentionned? |
| 18:38 | <vvas> | Celdecea: out of curiosity, what's the driver for it? |
| 18:39 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: what bug? |
| 18:39 | <Celdecea> | vvas: ATL1 atheros 10/100 integrated |
| 18:39 | <Celdecea> | one sec and I can get the model # |
| 18:39 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, the super user key shortcut to launch a terminal...if you're referring to something else, what are you talking about? |
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| 18:40 | <hrvoje> | denize_: yes, global shortcut.. just enter gconf-editor |
| 18:41 | <Celdecea> | vvas: lol, guess its just Atheros L1 10/100/1000 |
| 18:41 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Creating_global_keyboard_shortcuts_in_GNOME here you go |
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| 18:41 | <bike> | hehehe Error: /home/mike/sys/wipe/dban-beta.2007042900_i386.zip is not supported archive 7zip said |
| 18:41 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, but what were you talking about when you said it has to do with gconf |
| 18:42 | <bike> | god damnit.. unzip doesnt do it either |
| 18:42 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: well setting global shortcuts :) gconf-editor |
| 18:42 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, o wait universal shortcuts...so a way to get by my problem? |
| 18:43 | <vvas> | bike: what does "file" say? |
| 18:43 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: if i got it right, you want to press let's say Alt+Ctrl+T to open gnome-terminal tight? |
| 18:43 | <bike> | hm download is corrupted |
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| 18:43 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: *right |
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| 18:44 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, i just want to press the right super user key |
| 18:44 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: ah.. so it's some special Key? oh.. then try with xev |
| 18:44 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: xmodmap |
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| 18:45 | <hrvoje> | deniz_: that way I set my multimedia keys to work with Amarok |
| 18:45 | <deniz_> | hrvoje, well tbh it's a minor issue, i'll just use ctrl + left arrow for now until the bug is fixed |
| 18:45 | <deniz_> | nothing too serious for me |
| 18:46 | <deniz_> | well for non-stable release that is |
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| 18:49 | <abrotman> | bike: did you try the unzip package ? |
| 18:49 | <bike_> | hehe --autonuke Be really sure. |
| 18:49 | <bike_> | i found a zip file |
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| 18:49 | <bike_> | the exe wouldnt unzip |
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| 18:51 | <Celdecea> | bike_: self-extracting cab perhaps or was it a zip format? |
| 18:51 | <bike_> | interesting, its got a shell mode |
| 18:51 | <bike_> | found a zip on the sourceforge page |
| 18:51 | <bike_> | latest beta anyway |
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| 18:52 | <bike_> | hm, how can i create a grub undermenu? |
| 18:52 | <bike_> | or is there such a think |
| 18:52 | <bike_> | thing |
| 18:52 | <bike_> | submenu rather |
| 18:52 | <bike_> | ah nvm |
| 18:52 | <bike_> | googles got it |
| 18:54 | <hrvoje> | oh plz help removed toolbar from Kopete chat window by accident and can't get it back.. any sugestions? |
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| 18:55 | <themill> | hrvoje: Settings -> Toolbars -> Main toolbar |
| 18:55 | <klando> | hi, I have a C function using mmap, and I have a ENOMEM error (basically no enought space, or no more projection allowed for current process) |
| 18:55 | <hrvoje> | themill: not that, on a chat window, not a program window :) |
| 18:56 | <klando> | WHat are the limit for the projections ? |
| 18:56 | <themill> | hrvoje: same thing |
| 18:57 | <hrvoje> | themill: not so much |
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| 18:57 | <hrvoje> | themill: coz i don't have Settings on chat window, it disappeared with toolbar |
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| 18:58 | <themill> | hrvoje: Ctrl+M to give you back the menu |
| 18:58 | <hrvoje> | themill: that's it, thank you very much! |
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| 18:58 | <bike_> | question is tho, will this wipe the usb stick too :S or will i be prompted with a menu |
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| 18:59 | <themill> | hrvoje: no worries. BTW Ctrl+M is a fairly general KDE shortcut for hiding/unhiding the menu bar |
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| 19:00 | <hrvoje> | themill: good to know, thenks for the info :) |
| 19:01 | <Celdecea> | thanks again everyone |
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| 19:03 | <deniz> | vvas, bike, bremner, cfdisk -z /dev/hdb did not remove the volume group, which is the 255mb partition i was referring to when i use ubuntu live cd (since im using lvm), sudo cfdisk -z /dev/sdb did erase the rest like i wanted tho |
| 19:05 | <hrvoje> | deniz: have you tried fdisk /dev/hdb ? |
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| 19:09 | <deniz> | hrvoje, what does that do? |
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| 19:10 | <edbian> | I have a small problem. I just set up a new debian server in my house (bach). Bach has 3 partitions. root, home, and swap. I have mounted / of bach from a client machine (beethoven) using NFS. Problem is, the /home dir is empty (when viewing from beethoven) because it isn't the same partition (I'm assuming) How can I fix this? |
| 19:10 | <hrvoje> | deniz: prompt for working with disks... e.g. you can check all your disks by "fdisk -l" or as I said fdisk /dev/hdb (in your case) and then press d (and enter) to delete partition |
| 19:11 | <hrvoje> | deniz: and you can then make a new one.. se "man fdisk" |
| 19:11 | <deniz> | hrvoje, fdisk -l doesn't see the 255 mb partition...that partition was made when i chose lvm (i dint create that partition), ill check with fdisk /dev/hdb |
| 19:12 | <southernc> | edbian: try mount the other partitions... |
| 19:12 | <edbian> | southernc: I would have to share them out using NFS. Is that the best work around? |
| 19:13 | <southernc> | mm im not fully understanding your question |
| 19:13 | <southernc> | your saying your mounting the wrong partition ? |
| 19:13 | <bike_> | deniz, will starting that dbus thing wipe the usb disk also |
| 19:13 | <edbian> | I'm mounting bach's / via NFS |
| 19:13 | <bike_> | questionmark |
| 19:14 | <edbian> | since /home on bach is a separate partition it isn't following through NFS |
| 19:14 | <edbian> | so /home (from a client) is empty |
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| 19:14 | <valdyn> | edbian: theres a config switch too |
| 19:15 | <edbian> | valdyn: An nfs config or a mount config? |
| 19:15 | <deniz> | bike_, i dont really understand what you're saying unfortunately :( |
| 19:15 | <valdyn> | edbian: nfs |
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| 19:17 | <valdyn> | edbian: i cant see it right now, maybe thats limited to the userspace nfs daemon |
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| 19:17 | <edbian> | I'm looking through man nfs but not finding anything. Where else can I look? |
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| 19:17 | <valdyn> | edbian: so just export /home and mount that too |
| 19:17 | <deniz> | hrvoje, ya fdisk just sees like root partition and home partition (which i removed) and does not see that 255mb partition that in my opinion is responsible for lvm |
| 19:18 | <valdyn> | deniz: a 255mb partition for lvm? |
| 19:18 | <valdyn> | deniz: wth is that supposed to do? |
| 19:18 | <edbian> | valdyn: Is that the best work around? Can I mount /home in / (for bach) with them both being NFS? I'd like for the filesystem to look accurate. This is a headless system. |
| 19:18 | <valdyn> | edbian: /home in /home i would think |
| 19:19 | <deniz> | valdyn, i dont no lvm well enuf but im guessing it's to manage the logical volumes |
| 19:19 | <valdyn> | deniz: thats nonsense |
| 19:19 | <deniz> | that partition is not a logical volume |
| 19:19 | <valdyn> | deniz: lvm has no management partition |
| 19:19 | <deniz> | valdyn, o so then what is it? |
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| 19:19 | <edbian> | valdyn: /home (of bach) ? /home (of beethoven) ?? That's a confusing statement |
| 19:19 | <deniz> | it's a partition made against my will so to speak |
| 19:19 | <valdyn> | deniz: your windows vista boot partition? |
| 19:19 | <deniz> | valdyn, no thats another hard drive |
| 19:20 | <edbian> | "/home of bach != /home of beethoven |
| 19:20 | <valdyn> | deniz: i dont know why you have that partition, lvm does not create a partition ever |
| 19:20 | <valdyn> | edbian: alright, you would know |
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| 19:20 | <edbian> | valdyn: Sorry? |
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| 19:21 | <valdyn> | edbian: you will know best what to mount where |
| 19:21 | <edbian> | Can I mount one nfs inside another nfs? |
| 19:21 | <edbian> | mount / on bach |
| 19:21 | <deniz> | valdyn, ok so another issue, why isn't the partition listed in fdisk -l ? |
| 19:21 | <valdyn> | edbian: sure, but i dont understand how that makes sense |
| 19:21 | <edbian> | and then mount /home on bach? |
| 19:21 | <valdyn> | deniz: because its not a partition? |
| 19:22 | <hrvoje> | deniz: a bit strange thing you got there, am clueless if you can't see partition or erase it with any method given so far |
| 19:23 | <valdyn> | deniz: lvm is *not* visible at all from *any* partitioning tool |
| 19:23 | <edbian> | Maybe this will help. (All of this on the NFS server) sda1 = / and sda2 = home. Can I export both of them and then on an NFS client mount sda1 to /media/bach and sda2 to /media/bach/home ??? |
| 19:23 | <hrvoje> | deniz, valdyn: true, hdb can't be a partition... |
| 19:23 | <edbian> | one inside the other? |
| 19:23 | <valdyn> | edbian: sure |
| 19:23 | <hrvoje> | deniz: partition would be e-g- hdb1 |
| 19:24 | <edbian> | valdyn: Awesome! :) |
| 19:24 | <deniz> | hrvoje, valdyn, well i checked with gparted and it says it's all free space then on the lenny installer, it said something which i cant remember |
| 19:24 | <valdyn> | deniz: so its free space and not a partition |
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| 19:25 | <deniz> | but i rebooted and it still mentions the 255 mb partition |
| 19:25 | <deniz> | valdyn, ^ |
| 19:25 | <hrvoje> | deniz: but you know it's 250GB coz it's missing from your disk or it just says it is that big? |
| 19:25 | <valdyn> | deniz: what is IT ? |
| 19:25 | <hrvoje> | deniz: ah.. MB sry.. well then it's not a problem :) |
| 19:26 | <valdyn> | deniz: if you were accurately reading and pasting for us, then the problem would probably solve itself |
| 19:26 | <deniz> | 250 gb = windows vista, 500gb = debian (where it used to be) |
| 19:26 | <deniz> | valdyn, ok what do you want me to paste? |
| 19:26 | <valdyn> | deniz: nothing, im out of time now |
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| 19:27 | <deniz> | o man what bad timing :'( lol |
| 19:27 | <edbian> | Is there a way to copy files from a client to a server through my ssh terminal? |
| 19:28 | <southernc> | sftp |
| 19:28 | <southernc> | or rsync |
| 19:28 | <southernc> | but would have to be setup correctly on server side |
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| 19:28 | <edbian> | southernc: I'm logged in to the server right now. There isn't something I can run? |
| 19:28 | <hrvoje> | deniz: I also had some strange space sdb (and as far as I can remember empty) on my old laptop, and how it got there don't know.. maybe left after Arch linux (coz he tends to have 3-4 partitions for /, /home... ) and once I partitioned it automaticly |
| 19:29 | <edbian> | southernc: Similar to wget but sending and recieving? |
| 19:29 | <wnd> | or tar+ssh (tar -cf - foo | ssh remote 'tar -C dir -xf -') |
| 19:29 | <southernc> | you have to configure your sshd |
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| 19:29 | <edbian> | southernc: Ok thank you! :) |
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| 19:31 | <hrvoje> | anyone know how I can change two keys on a keyboard (keymap)? |
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| 19:32 | <dr|z3d> | hrvoje: Take them off, and swap them over. |
| 19:32 | <dr|z3d> | (One way). |
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| 19:32 | <southernc> | edbian pretty similiar yea you can actually use filzilla to to make it easier with gui |
| 19:32 | * | dr|z3d winks. |
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| 19:32 | <southernc> | or any ftp client that supports the sftp protocol |
| 19:33 | <hrvoje> | dr|z3d: you see, to prevent answers like yours, I put "keymap" in brackets :)) |
| 19:33 | <edbian> | southernc: Thanks |
| 19:33 | <southernc> | let me know if you need help setting up |
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| 19:37 | <abrotman> | !keymap |
| 19:37 | <dpkg> | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 19:38 | <computergeek> | I can't get higher than 800x600 screen resolution |
| 19:38 | <southernc> | thats awfull |
| 19:38 | <computergeek> | i know |
| 19:38 | <computergeek> | that's why I asked about it |
| 19:38 | <southernc> | pretty decriptive problem you got there |
| 19:39 | <southernc> | descriptive* |
| 19:39 | <computergeek> | southernc then don't just critisize tell me what I should do |
| 19:39 | <computergeek> | like tell me what files to send |
| 19:39 | <hrvoje> | dpkg: i already set my MultimediaKeys with xev and xmodmap but now I need to change two signs.. how can i get their codes (as one is with Shift) |
| 19:39 | <dpkg> | hrvoje: what are you talking about? |
| 19:39 | <computergeek> | I have a Rage 128 video card |
| 19:40 | <southernc> | ahh were getting better |
| 19:40 | <hrvoje> | dpkg: i want to switch < to / |
| 19:40 | <dpkg> | hrvoje: no idea |
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| 19:40 | <southernc> | i cant give you any help when you dont describe what your using |
| 19:40 | <hrvoje> | dpkg: i have Croatian layout, < is next to y (US layout z) and / is Shift+7 |
| 19:40 | <dpkg> | hrvoje: what are you talking about? |
| 19:41 | <southernc> | is this on X while using kde , gnome , xcfe , lxde |
| 19:41 | <computergeek> | southernc X using gdm |
| 19:41 | <computergeek> | sorry I thought you were talking to someone else |
| 19:42 | <southernc> | have you tried adjusting the monitor settings ? |
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| 19:42 | <computergeek> | the only option is 800x600 |
| 19:42 | <hrvoje> | dpkg: ? I want to place "/" sign instead of "<" sign (next to left Shift) am using KDE but I want it mainly in konsole |
| 19:42 | <dpkg> | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, hrvoje |
| 19:42 | <southernc> | only option in what ? |
| 19:42 | <computergeek> | lspci doesn't report anything else |
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| 19:42 | <southernc> | what driver are you using |
| 19:43 | <computergeek> | also System>Preferences>Screen Resolution |
| 19:43 | <computergeek> | I don't know |
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| 19:43 | <computergeek> | the r128 driver is installed but I don't know how to configure it |
| 19:43 | <computergeek> | the r128 driver comes with the install |
| 19:43 | <southernc> | uhuh |
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| 19:43 | <southernc> | you shouldnt have to configure it though |
| 19:43 | <computergeek> | i installed xorg onto a previously text-based system, |
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| 19:44 | <computergeek> | I can post on paste.debian.org my xorg.conf |
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| 19:45 | <edbian> | What software makes a debian server a print server? |
| 19:45 | <southernc> | cups |
| 19:45 | <southernc> | samba |
| 19:45 | <edbian> | southernc: Thanks again! :) |
| 19:45 | <southernc> | mmhmm |
| 19:46 | <southernc> | ermm computergeek try dpkg-reconfigure xorg |
| 19:46 | <computergeek> | I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:46 | <southernc> | ermm computergeek try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:46 | <computergeek> | I'll try just xorg |
| 19:46 | <southernc> | nono i wasnt being discriptive |
| 19:47 | <southernc> | what dist are you using ? |
| 19:47 | <edbian> | Is it bad practice to log in as root on a server if you only ever log on to do administrative tasks? |
| 19:47 | <computergeek> | debian lenny |
| 19:47 | <southernc> | edbian you should use sudo and yes it is |
| 19:47 | <loudergood> | it's a bad habit to make |
| 19:47 | <southernc> | you should allow root login no in sshd config |
| 19:48 | <edbian> | southernc: Yeah, sudo was the first thing I set up. Why is it still bad practice? |
| 19:48 | <edbian> | I don't allow root log in in ssh |
| 19:48 | <edbian> | :) |
| 19:48 | <edbian> | I was checking here before I did something silly like that ;) |
| 19:48 | <southernc> | because an attacker will have to crack to passwords before having root |
| 19:48 | <southernc> | 2 |
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| 19:50 | <southernc> | also edbian lil trick when you ssh to your server do sudo -i enter pass and you dont have to keep doing sudo cmd |
| 19:50 | <computergeek> | southernc restarting xserver... I'll be back |
| 19:50 | <southernc> | only have to type it the once saves alot of tabbing/typing |
| 19:50 | <computergeek> | just ran the command |
| 19:50 | <southernc> | kk |
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| 19:53 | <computergeek> | southernc no change |
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| 19:56 | <southernc> | D |
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| 19:56 | <southernc> | ZzZz spilled coffee |
| 19:56 | <computergeek> | I'll paste.debian.net my xorg.conf |
| 19:57 | <southernc> | computergeek: ok |
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| 20:00 | <southernc> | this gonna take long ? |
| 20:00 | <computergeek> | southernc sorry, I have to go |
| 20:00 | <computergeek> | it's there |
| 20:01 | <southernc> | whats where >? |
| 20:01 | <computergeek> | http://paste.debian.net/43755/ |
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| 20:01 | <computergeek> | sorry, I have to go |
| 20:01 | <southernc> | ok |
| 20:01 | <computergeek> | I might be back in a little while, though |
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| 20:03 | <computergeek> | southernc I'm back |
| 20:03 | <southernc> | FAST! |
| 20:03 | <computergeek> | i know |
| 20:03 | <computergeek> | i thought I'd be gone for a long time |
| 20:04 | <computergeek> | that file was auto-generated by some autogenerater |
| 20:04 | <computergeek> | it didn't ask me anything, just made a basic file |
| 20:05 | <southernc> | yea its supposed |
| 20:05 | <southernc> | to* |
| 20:05 | <southernc> | normally you should have to add modes but well find out in a min |
| 20:05 | <southernc> | shouldnt* |
| 20:06 | <southernc> | http://paste.debian.net/43756/ |
| 20:07 | <southernc> | get rid of what you have in section device and paste that in |
| 20:07 | <southernc> | then /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 20:07 | <computergeek> | I just use ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 20:07 | <computergeek> | :) |
| 20:08 | <computergeek> | I'll be back |
| 20:08 | <southernc> | that also works sorry used to newer xorg where it doesnt do that by default and im to lazy to change it :) |
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| 20:12 | <computergeek> | southernc still no change |
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| 20:12 | <southernc> | kk hang on |
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| 20:13 | <southernc> | sudo lspci | grep VGA |
| 20:13 | <southernc> | whats the output |
| 20:13 | <abrotman> | you don't need sudo for that |
| 20:14 | <computergeek> | 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RE/SG |
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| 20:14 | <southernc> | ehh whatever |
| 20:14 | <southernc> | habit |
| 20:14 | <computergeek> | :) |
| 20:14 | <abrotman> | computergeek: give us `lspci -nn | grep -i vga` |
| 20:14 | <abrotman> | southernc: bad habit |
| 20:14 | <computergeek> | 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RE/SG [1002:5245] |
| 20:14 | <computergeek> | 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RE/SG [1002:5245] |
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| 20:15 | <computergeek> | sry for the double posting |
| 20:15 | <southernc> | http://paste.debian.net/43757/ |
| 20:15 | <southernc> | do this |
| 20:15 | <southernc> | it will work |
| 20:15 | <computergeek> | i sure hope so |
| 20:15 | <computergeek> | brb |
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| 20:16 | <southernc> | debian.de pastebin sucks |
| 20:16 | <abrotman> | judd: xorg 1002:5245 |
| 20:16 | <judd> | abrotman: In lenny, device 1002:5245 is matched by xorg driver: 'r128'. |
| 20:16 | <southernc> | already figured that out :) |
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| 20:18 | <abrotman> | he shouldn't need to fill up his xorg.conf |
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| 20:19 | <southernc> | its a common bug with r128 |
| 20:19 | <southernc> | and i have no idea what monitor hes got so that will pretty much take care of anything |
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| 20:20 | <southernc> | and your right he shouldnt |
| 20:20 | <southernc> | it should work out of the box |
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| 20:21 | <computergeek> | no change |
| 20:21 | <southernc> | repost your xorg.conf |
| 20:22 | <computergeek> | hang on |
| 20:22 | <southernc> | with the changes you just made |
| 20:23 | <computergeek> | http://paste.debian.net/43758/ |
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| 20:26 | <abrotman> | maybe get his Xorg.0.log ? |
| 20:27 | <computergeek> | abrotman: hang on |
| 20:27 | <computergeek> | where is that? |
| 20:27 | <southernc> | vi /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:28 | <southernc> | see if your getting any errors etc |
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| 20:28 | <computergeek> | http://paste.debian.net/43759/ |
| 20:29 | <computergeek> | what does line 272 mean |
| 20:30 | <computergeek> | then 336-506 |
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| 20:31 | <southernc> | hmm |
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| 20:32 | <southernc> | well you can dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg |
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| 20:33 | <computergeek> | southernc wouldn't that remake the file |
| 20:33 | <computergeek> | I'll try |
| 20:33 | <southernc> | uhuh |
| 20:33 | <computergeek> | brb |
| 20:33 | <southernc> | yeaup |
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| 20:35 | <computergeek> | southernc no change |
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| 20:35 | <computergeek> | the Xorg.conf is different, though |
| 20:36 | <computergeek> | I'll repost that |
| 20:36 | <southernc> | io figured that you just didnt need all those modes in there as its deny all modes except 800x600 |
| 20:36 | <abrotman> | the dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do much of anything in lenny anymore |
| 20:37 | <abrotman> | is he using the framebuffer ? |
| 20:37 | <southernc> | abrotman i was just trying to have him clean his xorg |
| 20:37 | <computergeek> | http://paste.debian.net/43760/ |
| 20:37 | <southernc> | abrotman your turn :) |
| 20:37 | <computergeek> | :) |
| 20:37 | <southernc> | im out of ideas |
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| 20:38 | <computergeek> | abrotman I am using the framebuffer |
| 20:38 | <abrotman> | tried turning htat off ? |
| 20:39 | <computergeek> | I remember selecting that in one reconfiguration |
| 20:39 | <computergeek> | I'll try |
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| 20:39 | <computergeek> | restarting X |
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| 20:41 | <computergeek> | abrotman no change |
| 20:41 | <computergeek> | :'( |
| 20:41 | <computergeek> | same xorg.conf |
| 20:42 | <abrotman> | which same? |
| 20:42 | <computergeek> | as just last tim |
| 20:42 | <computergeek> | time |
| 20:42 | <abrotman> | the empty one? or the full one ? |
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| 20:42 | <computergeek> | for some reason. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg never changes the xorg.conf |
| 20:42 | <computergeek> | the full one |
| 20:42 | <computergeek> | after the last -phigh reconfigure |
| 20:43 | <computergeek> | when I dpkg-reconfigure with -phigh it redoes (or at least redid) the corg.conf |
| 20:43 | <computergeek> | xorg.conf |
| 20:43 | <southernc> | it was supposed to |
| 20:43 | <abrotman> | then just move it out of the way |
| 20:44 | <computergeek> | like rm the xorg.conf? |
| 20:44 | <computergeek> | move what out of the way |
| 20:44 | <southernc> | xorg |
| 20:44 | <computergeek> | ? |
| 20:44 | <southernc> | just change xorg.conf rto xorg.bak |
| 20:44 | <computergeek> | ok |
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| 20:45 | <computergeek> | restarting X |
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| 20:45 | <southernc> | eek |
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| 20:46 | <computergeek> | now it won't start the X server |
| 20:46 | <computergeek> | I'm now on ctrl-alt-F2 |
| 20:46 | <southernc> | thats cause you never reconfigured it lol |
| 20:46 | <computergeek> | says it couldn't find/open the config file |
| 20:47 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 368] by debhelper |
| 20:47 | <southernc> | just make an empty one |
| 20:47 | <southernc> | it not gonna change it from what you already had though but not my show |
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| 20:52 | <computergeek> | abrotman I'm back! |
| 20:52 | <computergeek> | and no change |
| 20:53 | <abrotman> | dude .. you keep reappearing! |
| 20:53 | <computergeek> | I had to reboot the computerg |
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| 20:53 | <computergeek> | lol |
| 20:53 | <computergeek> | I'm in a gnome-terminal |
| 20:53 | <computergeek> | so every time I restart the Xserver I reconnect |
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| 20:54 | <computergeek> | ... spooky haunted house noises |
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| 20:54 | <computergeek> | abrotman now what? |
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| 20:54 | <abrotman> | you could use irssi from the terminal |
| 20:55 | <computergeek> | That's what I'm using |
| 20:55 | <computergeek> | just in a graphical terminal |
| 20:55 | <computergeek> | anyhow |
| 20:55 | <computergeek> | what next? |
| 20:57 | <abrotman> | use vesa ? |
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| 20:57 | <computergeek> | I think that's what it does a fallback to |
| 20:57 | <computergeek> | The whole point is to get 1024x768 |
| 20:58 | <computergeek> | I wonder if there's some way to force it to use that |
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| 20:59 | <computergeek> | I think i'll call it a day |
| 20:59 | <computergeek> | I may just have to use 800x600 |
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| 21:00 | <computergeek> | I had used Ubuntu before and it automatically made it 1024x768 |
| 21:00 | <computergeek> | I wonder what it did differently? |
| 21:00 | <computergeek> | it was just too unreliable |
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| 21:00 | <computergeek> | anyhow time to move on with life (or sleep) |
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| 21:01 | <computergeek> | thanks fow everyone's help |
| 21:01 | <marcelo> | hi, |
| 21:01 | <southernc> | computergeek |
| 21:01 | <computergeek> | yes |
| 21:01 | <southernc> | http://paste.debian.net/43762/ << try that the entire config |
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| 21:01 | <computergeek> | I have to shut down now but I'll try that when I start up tomorrow |
| 21:01 | <computergeek> | thanks again |
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| 21:02 | <southernc> | kk |
| 21:02 | <southernc> | gl |
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| 21:03 | <Guest345> | I`ve just installed debian lenny amd64. I am using a 23 LCD sansung monitor but debian does not uses full screen, there is a black frame around? How do I fix this? |
| 21:04 | <abrotman> | Guest345: lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 21:04 | <southernc> | sheesh |
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| 21:04 | <Guest345> | abrotman, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0605] (rev a2) |
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| 21:04 | <abrotman> | awesome |
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| 21:04 | <abrotman> | judd: xorg 10de:0605 |
| 21:04 | <judd> | abrotman: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 21:05 | <abrotman> | judd: just do what i say |
| 21:05 | <judd> | abrotman: Error: "just" is not a valid command. |
| 21:06 | <southernc> | ha |
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| 21:08 | <Guest345> | abrotman, Any idea how to fix this? |
| 21:08 | <abrotman> | Guest345: what is that card? |
| 21:08 | <abrotman> | !nvidia |
| 21:08 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 21:11 | <Guest345> | abrotman, You mean I have a problem with the drivers? But I have already used this monitor withubuntu and it fully used the screen. |
| 21:11 | <southernc> | Guest try ctrl-alt-del and see if it fixes it |
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| 21:12 | <abrotman> | Guest345: which driver are you using ? |
| 21:12 | <abrotman> | southernc: that's a reboot .. what does that do? |
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| 21:12 | <southernc> | it restarts the desktop manager |
| 21:13 | <southernc> | and i have the same issue and after restarting it fixes it thats what it does |
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| 21:13 | <abrotman> | no .. that's ctrl-alt-bksp .. and that's not a restart .. |
| 21:13 | <southernc> | blah |
| 21:13 | <southernc> | ctrl-alt-bkspace |
| 21:13 | <southernc> | or /etc/init.d/kdm /gdm |
| 21:14 | <southernc> | restart |
| 21:14 | <marcelo_> | abrotman, I do not know which driver, I just installed lenny, it must be the default driver. Restart does not helped me. |
| 21:15 | <southernc> | yea i gave you wrong info i mean ctrl-alt-bkspace but whatever |
| 21:15 | <abrotman> | but .. it's done what you intended .. and didn't help |
| 21:16 | <southernc> | no shit huh ? |
| 21:16 | <abrotman> | marcelo_: can you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in paste.debian.net |
| 21:16 | <abrotman> | shocker .. i know |
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| 21:17 | <southernc> | gj on helping computergeek you couldnt figure anything out so you ignored him |
| 21:18 | <abrotman> | he wandered off .. didn't he take your new config and go to bed? |
| 21:18 | <abrotman> | hard to get a word in ... |
| 21:19 | <marcelo_> | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/43763/ |
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| 21:24 | <abrotman> | marcelo_: looks like you need the 185.18.14 which isn't in lenny .. |
| 21:25 | <southernc> | #fail |
| 21:25 | <marcelo_> | abrotman, I`ve thought ubuntu used the same drivers as debian... how can I proceed to fix it? |
| 21:26 | <abrotman> | southernc: ? |
| 21:26 | <southernc> | nothing , just keeping myself amused. |
| 21:26 | <abrotman> | marcelo_: 1) get the packages from sid/unstable 2) use the installer from nvidia (not recommended, but lots of people do it) |
| 21:26 | <abrotman> | southernc: just keep quiet if you're not going to be at all helpful |
| 21:27 | <abrotman> | take smart ass comments to another channel |
| 21:27 | <southernc> | everytime i try i get critized by you |
| 21:27 | <abrotman> | fine .. you do it .. have fun |
| 21:27 | <southernc> | negative |
| 21:27 | <abrotman> | marcelo_: i'm sorry .. southernc thinks i'm an idiot .. so he's going to help you now |
| 21:28 | <southernc> | no i dont think your an idiot i think your an asshole |
| 21:28 | <abrotman> | marcelo_: he'll get you fixed right up in no time flat .. |
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| 21:31 | <vvas> | marcelo_: that's only a small fragment of Xorg.0.log |
| 21:32 | <southernc> | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=42181 << could take a look at that |
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| 21:34 | <marcelo_> | It is going to be very boring to fix this... |
| 21:34 | <southernc> | nah its not that bad |
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| 22:09 | <SuperMiguel> | is there a way to have debian boot to ram? |
| 22:10 | <dr|z3d> | Boot to ram? |
| 22:10 | * | dr|z3d chuckles. |
| 22:10 | <dr|z3d> | Where's your's booting? |
| 22:10 | * | southernc would like to know also |
| 22:10 | <icebrain> | SuperMiguel: I found a package to do just that around aptitude |
| 22:11 | <icebrain> | don't remember the name, i'll search for it |
| 22:11 | <abrotman> | SuperMiguel: you mean like load it into a ramdisk ? |
| 22:11 | <SuperMiguel> | like this for debian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM |
| 22:11 | <dr|z3d> | I guess he means boot _from_ ram. |
| 22:11 | <dr|z3d> | Or maybe not. :/ |
| 22:12 | <SuperMiguel> | taking about ramdisk any of u guyes used the i-ram thing from gigabyte? |
| 22:12 | <icebrain> | It's debirf |
| 22:13 | <SuperMiguel> | debirf? |
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| 22:13 | <abrotman> | judd: info debirf --release lenny |
| 22:13 | * | abrotman looks at judd |
| 22:14 | <SuperMiguel> | abrotman, will it improve my system speed? |
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| 22:15 | <abrotman> | running your system from RAM .. sure |
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| 22:18 | <SuperMiguel> | this may be a dumb question, but when u run ur system from ram, or from one of those ram disks. if one of the ram sticks goes bad u loose all ur data? like u have to reload ur os? |
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| 22:19 | <icebrain> | if you're worried about data integrity maybe you shouldn't run from ram.. |
| 22:21 | <dr|z3d> | SuperMiguel: Your OS is loaded from hd to ram if you use the ram disk solution. |
| 22:22 | <dr|z3d> | DDR is volatile. Lose power, lose contents. So you need to load it into ram, somehow.. |
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| 22:23 | <SuperMiguel> | but i mean, if one stick dies, i can just put another one and good 2 go, no need to reload? |
| 22:23 | <dr|z3d> | I think the gigabyte disk works broadly the same way; perhaps it uses a battery to have some persistence. |
| 22:23 | <dr|z3d> | If you're loading from hd, then sure. |
| 22:24 | <dr|z3d> | If the ram's corrupt, all you risk losing is your session data. |
| 22:24 | <SuperMiguel> | well on the gigabyte one.. i guess u install on the memory if im not mistaking |
| 22:24 | <dr|z3d> | quite possibly. you'd have to look into it. |
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| 23:11 | <MoonWirelessG> | hello an anyone help me with a question? I enabled pam and now it is shecking mail twice on ssh login |
| 23:11 | <MoonWirelessG> | checking* |
| 23:12 | <MoonWirelessG> | andone have a clue? |
| 23:13 | <MoonWirelessG> | anyone even |
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| 23:17 | <MoonWirelessG> | anyone?? :-) |
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| 23:21 | <locsmif> | Not me, sorry |
| 23:21 | <locsmif> | I don't know what PAM should have to do with checking mail |
| 23:21 | <SuperMiguel> | is dmraid that bad?? |
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| 23:23 | <MoonWirelessG> | ok I enabled pam, now it tels me I have new mail twice |
| 23:23 | <MoonWirelessG> | tells even |
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| 23:35 | <locsmif> | And that goes away if you disable it again? |
| 23:36 | <locsmif> | See /etc/pam.d/sshd |
| 23:36 | <locsmif> | Near: # Print the status of the user's mailbox upon successful login. |
| 23:37 | <locsmif> | Maybe that helps.. |
| 23:39 | <SuperMiguel> | besides perc from dell, are there any other controllers that debian support by default? |
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| 23:41 | <MoonWirelessG> | locsmif it was checking email before I enabled pam |
| 23:41 | <MoonWirelessG> | when I enable pam |
| 23:41 | <MoonWirelessG> | it checks it twice |
| 23:41 | <MoonWirelessG> | I want the pam, but not the first one |
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| 23:48 | <SuperMiguel> | how is dmraid compared with mdraid, performance wise (both raid 0) |
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| 23:51 | <MyWifeIs19> | I just listened to my buddy's FreeBSD instll ....and how come alsa sounds so muffled? is there some kind of driver switch I am forgetting? |
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| 23:52 | <locsmif> | MoonWirelessG, look at /etc/pam.d/sshd |
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| 23:52 | <locsmif> | oh |
| 23:52 | <locsmif> | Could it be in your login profile? |
| 23:53 | <locsmif> | Have you checked ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile and such? |
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| 23:55 | <git-hi9h> | MyWifeIs19, have you tried using aumix or the gnome mixer program to fix? do you have any pictures of your wife i can see? |
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