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---Logopened Mon Aug 24 00:00:00 2009
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00:01<argonel>hiyas
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00:03<argonel>i have an ext3 filesystem that seems to have two sets of content. i saved a file last week, and it was gone when i rebooted. i rebooted again, and the file that i saved last week is back, and todays changes are gone
00:05<argonel>so just for fun i copied the dir off to another drive, and restarted.. and the "missing" contents came back
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00:07<blunted>dats weird
00:08<argonel>ok, so the plot sickens. apparently others had the same thought i did and rebooted it, to no avail. so its not even on every reboot, just some
00:09<argonel>if i hadn't seen the contents of the dir before and after restart i wouldn't have believed it myself
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00:15<argonel>its a 2.6.22, ext3 journal is ordered
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00:19<sney>look in dmesg for anything weird
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00:25<IAMERROR>does anyone know how to get true type fonts (.ttf) to work with gimp
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00:29<sney>you probably need freetype installed
00:30<sney>seems to be a requirement, though. hmm.
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00:32<blunted>i still can't get my wireless card to work
00:33<blunted>:\
00:34<blunted>i installed b43-fwcutter and it did its thing
00:34<blunted>but i dunno if there is other stuff im supposed to do after ?
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00:37<gsimmons>blunted: Is the b43/b43legacy driver loaded? Do you have a wireless interface present? (iwconfig)
00:38<blunted>gsimmons, how do i know if the b43 driver is loaded
00:40<gsimmons>blunted: lsmod | grep b43
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00:44<blunted>so how do i check if b43 driver is loaded?
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00:44<gsimmons>14:40 < gsimmons> blunted: lsmod | grep b43
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00:44<blunted>nothing
00:45<blunted>so what did i do wrong
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00:46<gsimmons>blunted: You would want to load it with modprobe. You referenced "/etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper" in an earlier message from modprobe, verify that you haven't blacklisted the b43 driver within.
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00:52<Nullslash>!
00:52<Nullslash>!version
00:52<dpkg>Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions.
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01:04<kardan_>could you give a hint in which package that could shipped in debian?
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01:04<kardan_>i try to compile firefox which tells that it needs also and ogg
01:04<sney>why are you trying to compile firefox
01:05<sney>install iceweasel, it's the same thing with a different name
01:05<sney>!iceweasel
01:05<dpkg>Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. No longer supported in Etch, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2009/msg00063.html and ask me about <d-s-a>. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel
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01:07<wendaozhe>hello
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01:27<wendaozhe>how do i match the domain name in iptables? for example www.microsoft.com
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01:29<wendaozhe>Is anyone able to help me ?
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01:30<jmarsden>wendaozhe: You don't. Match the IP address(es) it resolves to.
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01:30<tcsetattr>are you thinking of doing a reverse DNS lookup on every packet, before deciding what to do with it? think harder.
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02:00<wendaozhe>sometimes,one domain name can have many different ip and the ip is dynamic .
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02:02<kenyon_>wow, I boot on kernel 2.6.26 no problem, but 2.6.30 gives me "md0: unknown partition table" and drops to busybox prompt
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02:14<kenyon_>ah hmm, fdisk -l /dev/md0 says "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table"
02:14<kenyon_>but why should it have a partition table, it works fine like this in 2.6.26, but not 2.6.30
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03:21<candelaresi>hello
03:21<candelaresi>my problem is: W: Imposible obtener http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 La suma hash difiere
03:21<candelaresi>mmmm...
03:22<candelaresi>is the english chanel and my system is in spanish
03:22<Yoda-BZH`Wk>!es
03:22<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
03:22<candelaresi>yes i know, but in the spanish chanel...there is nobody...
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03:24<candelaresi>anybody can help me?
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03:28<candelaresi>it an error of checksum
03:28<candelaresi>its an error of cheksum...
03:29<candelaresi>the bash cheksum...
03:29<Gold24>tried updating again?
03:29<Gold24>hash checksum :)
03:30<candelaresi>yes
03:30<candelaresi>i update again... and.... it works!
03:30<candelaresi>why did that my apt-get?
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03:51<Yoda-BZH`Wk>plop/hi
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04:43<Steven_M>what's the best virtual machine vbox, xen or vmware?
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04:47<Nemoder>I like qemu myself
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04:48<fluor->hey there - my mouse pointer doesn't show under xorg, any clue as to which package I might lack, or which line in xorg.conf ?
04:48<fluor->(mouse is there and can change window focus, etc., just the pointer is invisible)
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04:50<eidansoft>i think you must test it
04:50<eidansoft>in my case i like vmware
04:50<eidansoft>but vbox is free (vmware not)
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04:52<xayon>xD, boss what are you doing on debian? =D
04:52<xayon>oh
04:52<xayon>snubby left =/
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04:56<cmot>Yodel!
04:57<cmot>Wasn't there something like ./lib where I could put libdvdcss and w32codecs stuff if I don't have root?
04:57<cmot>(using totem with gstreamer backend.)
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05:01<Steven_M>eidansoft: ok thanks
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05:07<telenieko> Hi, I upgraded my nvidia driver to 185.18.31 but I suffer the "black screen" bug, so I need to downgrade but snapshot.debian.net seems to be broken since march. Does anybody have nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx etc in version 185.18.14-2 ?
05:08<Steven_M>does debian have any BBS server software?
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05:19<Vi_kE>haiiiiiiiiii
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05:23<prahal>is there a mean to create symlinks in intramfs-tools hooks ?
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05:36<jak>hi i want to do a postgres clustering. i saw slony-I is good for replication, but it will not be suitable for failover and in clustering. which one is suitable for me?
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05:40<jak>hi i want to do a postgres clustering. i saw slony-I is good for replication, but it will not be suitable for failover and rejoing the master into cluster. have any one suggest me?
05:40<orjan>Is the amd 770 chipset supported in lenny? I googled but didn't find much.
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05:41<orjan>Or rather found much but not any good info
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05:49<jak>hi, i need to implement postgres cluster. how can i do ?
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06:13<kylei_>if you do not have root access, is it possible to install packages locally?
06:14<kylei_>that is, to a directory your account has access to
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06:17<q>Ich habe eine Frage: Wieso funktioniert der Befehl ls *.1 nicht?
06:17<petemc>kylei_: no
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06:18<kylei_>what's that all about
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06:20<kylei_>so if I am trying to compile code that depends on libmysql++-dev, I have no choice other than to have an admin install that package?
06:20<kylei_>only dev files after all
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06:21<locklace>no, you just get and biuld libmysql++ yourself
06:22<kylei_>can that be done with dpkg?
06:22<locklace>no, it can be done with basic build tools like gcc and make
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06:23<kylei_>ok. my concern is, what if libmysql++-dev (this example) has dependencies that the system does not meet?
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06:23<locklace>then you have to get and build those too
06:24<tzafrir_laptop>kylei_, technically you can also extract the files from the debs under your home directory
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06:24<tzafrir_laptop>or install the sources under your home directory
06:24<tzafrir_laptop>Though this is not as fun
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06:25<kylei_>messy fun or easy fun?
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06:28<kylei_>how do i proceed with installing the sources under my home directory?
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06:42<prahal>mkinitramfs uses --dereference . Why is it so ? I need symlink in initramfs .... for plymouth
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06:42<prahal>or is there a workaround to have them in ?
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06:47<prahal>ie I could create the symlink in scripts local-premount ?
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06:56<orjan>Is the amd 770 chipset supported in lenny?
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07:28<nima>Could someone help me out with the latest Debian installer - it's very strange...
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07:28<nima>basically it comes up only 1 out of 4 times...
07:29<nima>when it does...
07:29<nima>i have failed raid10 devices
07:29<nima>http://paste.pocoo.org/show/135939/
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07:32<nima>other relevant details...
07:32<nima>http://paste.pocoo.org/show/135944/
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07:33<mikka>hi
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07:37<mikka>i have a small problem since 4 week's "ath_pci: cannot reserve memory...." system t30 lenny, last kernel update 2.6.26-2, controller tp-link tl-wn610g, chipset ar5212/5213
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07:38<mikka>via google no solutions found
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07:52<Seanyo>hey what's up anyone here?
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07:53<Seanyo>what up?
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07:55<Seanyo>i guess i'm gonna smoke a cig... if anyone reads this send a response, it's like a ghosttown in here, but i guess it's 8am
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07:56<koollman>Seanyo: boo! Are you scared now ? :)
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08:00<Seanyo>haha
08:00<Seanyo>sorry i was watching star trek:tng and worf and his son were in a western
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08:01<Seanyo>does anyone here know anything about ATI/fglrx installation? I'm having a problem with $modprobe fglrx it gives a cannot load memory allocation error? i can't find a remedy in any howtos on google :( i've tried several install guides now
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08:01<Seanyo>i know i'm supposed to switch to ATI but i've got a 4890TOP from ASUS with the new heatsink so i want to use this card
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08:02<Seanyo>switch to nvidia i mean
08:02<Seanyo>there should be an ATI channel :-/
08:02<Jflesch>Seanyo: debian testing ?
08:02<Seanyo>lenny
08:03<Seanyo>5.0.2 or whatever, just downloaded it yesterday
08:03<Seanyo>latest stable i think
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08:03<Imran-UK>hinge_cut, does anyone know if external usb blueray disc writers work well with debian lenny?
08:03<squelos>hi
08:04<Seanyo>hey
08:04<Seanyo>i haven't tried the bluray thing
08:04<squelos>can someone help me ? Im looking for the ip adresse of a website, how can i find it ? :s
08:04<Seanyo>anyone use ATI/fglrx
08:04<squelos>i know it can be done but i cant remember how to. maybe a ping ?
08:04<Imran-UK>squelos, host <website> normally?
08:04<petemc>squelos: ping www.foo.com
08:04<squelos>yes i do seanyo
08:04<Nemoder>squelos: dig www.somesite.com
08:04<Seanyo>if u have firestarter installed you can go to active connections and lookup host name by right clicking it hink
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08:05<squelos>is firestarter the GI for iptables ?
08:05<Seanyo>squelos do u know how to do modprobe fglrx if u get a memory allocation error?
08:05<Seanyo>i dunno what it runs on, but it's a gnome thing yeah
08:05<squelos>seanyo : no sorry :s
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08:05<squelos>i didnt get any errors :s
08:06<Seanyo>what guide did u use or commands?
08:06<Seanyo>i've tried several times :-/
08:06<squelos>uh, cant remember, a guide on the debian wiki i think.
08:06<squelos>did you build the driver from the ati packages or from the debian repos ?
08:06<Seanyo>yeah that's the one i finally got around to since the ati wiki is outdated... all commands work on the debian wiki except for modprobe fglrx
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08:07<Seanyo>i think i went with debians packages because i thought they'd be more stablre
08:07<Seanyo>stable
08:07<squelos>what gpu do you have ?
08:07<Seanyo>i tried both though i think
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08:07<squelos>wait ill look for the guide i followed
08:08<Seanyo>it's a 4890TOP so RV770 or some shit
08:09<squelos>Seanyo : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian_Installation_Guide
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08:09<squelos>i got a 4870x2. Its running fine for me. I followed this guide.
08:09<squelos>are you under lenny ?
08:09<Seanyo>it's a cool card and i was using ubuntu and playing quake wars and doom 3 with everything on max, but i kept getting this random bug with ubuntu that sometimes after running update manager x would be garbled so it wouldn't load the login screen... so i switched to Debian but now i cant get modprobe to work... so i dunno
08:10<squelos>hum :/
08:10<squelos>im runing amd 64 lenny
08:10<squelos>hey wait a sec
08:10<squelos>what kernel image are you using ?
08:10<squelos>the 2.6.30 doesnt work with the fglrx drivers
08:11<Seanyo>that may have been the problem with ubuntu in the long run... right now though it's debian with the kernel from the disc... so it's 2.6.26 or something
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08:11<Seanyo>all even numbers
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08:12<squelos>2.6.26 ? I have that kernel too.
08:12<Seanyo>has anyone else ever run into a memory allocation error when running $modprobe fglrx?
08:12<squelos>so i dunno :s . Did you do a manual partition ?
08:12<Seanyo>blargh
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08:12<Seanyo>do u have a windows dual boot?
08:12<squelos>'coz when i installed debian for the first time, i had a really small partition, too small for the drivers
08:12<Seanyo>i hear the new win drivers have better crossfire support as in 10-25% increase in performance
08:13<squelos>no
08:13<Seanyo>i did guided use entire disc
08:13<squelos>i deleted windows a few weeks ago.
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08:13<squelos>thats what i had did the first time seanyo
08:13<Seanyo>9.9 beta for linux supposedly has better wine support, hopefully CS:S will work when that's out
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08:13<squelos>and one of the partitions was too small
08:14<squelos>well, i think you would be better playing on windows :s
08:14<Seanyo>what error did it give though? i'm using a 500Gb drive though wouldn't have enough
08:14<cpet>debian-www = dead ? been poping in there from time to time and no one talks
08:14<squelos>i have a 1to :D
08:14<Seanyo>yeah that's why i have windows still, source games and ghostbusters... but i hear source and steam are going linux probably after left 4 dead 2
08:14<squelos>but it still made a 300mb partitio
08:15<Seanyo>what error did it give though
08:15<squelos>hum, cant remember.
08:15<squelos>some shit about memory too.
08:15<Seanyo>allocation?
08:15<Seanyo>hehe
08:15<squelos>cant remember :/
08:15<Seanyo>how did u fix it? manual partition?
08:15<squelos>yeah
08:15<squelos>i had to repartition it, and then it was ok.
08:15<Seanyo>actually go ahead and reinstall your OS and recreate the problem, i'll wait here lol j/k
08:15<cpet>remeber when I first sent in my request it took 6 months for someone to reply and add my request ;/
08:16<squelos>well i got the space error shit twice. Because the first time i installed it with the ati driver from the site.
08:16<Seanyo>cpet you use ATI?
08:16<cpet>Seanyo: one PC does
08:16<Seanyo>can a free driver run Doom 3?
08:16<Seanyo>fglrx or other cpet?
08:16<squelos>seanyo : no
08:17<cpet>Seanyo: no
08:17<Seanyo>non-linux then?
08:17<Seanyo>or u mean doom 3
08:17<squelos>no, actually the first time with was the debian repos. I couldnt configure the driver, and i cudnt understand why. So then i deleted it, and tried the debian files from the site. And it told me i had not enought space on my hdd :D
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08:17<Seanyo>i'm not getting that error
08:18<squelos>oh
08:18<squelos>well i dunno then :/
08:18<Seanyo>so is it true that there'a s distribution of Linux called Ultimate Linux where everything works at the maximum potential using A.I. to configure your system on install and the install image is 1Mb and like it makes you feel high and you get laid from it too
08:19<Seanyo>cuz that'd be cool
08:19<squelos>seanyo, rofl
08:20<Seanyo>comes with nano-bots that swim thorugh your computer's circuits to give it upgrades like it's living/evolving
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08:20<squelos>have you been smoking seanyo ?
08:20<Seanyo>lol... maybe that's what memory allocation error means, it's reading my brain
08:21<cpet>so no one knows about the debian-www channel?
08:21<squelos>no sorry cpet :/
08:21<squelos>here i gotta go
08:21<squelos>cyas later
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08:23<Seanyo>If anyone here can help with an error involving memory allocation when running $modprobe fglrx please send me a message. thanks
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08:29<Seanyo>maybe i have to edit something in modprobe.conf ? i don't know i'm a newbie
08:29<xeon-enouf>cpet: is the mailing list alive?
08:30<cpet>xeon-enouf: I only use mailing lists if they can be seen using my easy news account if not I dont bother with them as my mail box fills up with to many emails
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08:31<cpet>i sent a email but last time i took 6 months to reply :)
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08:32<cpet>Seanyo: give us a real error as in pasting the actuall error
08:32<cpet>Seanyo: then maybe someone can help you
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08:32<Seanyo>i can't give the message because i'm on windows
08:32<Seanyo>i'm new so i don't know how to run irc form a terminal
08:33<cpet>then we can;t help you
08:33<xeon-enouf>cpet: ahh .. yep - well, you don't _have to subscribe_ to read ;-) .. you _could_ setup filters too based on say Subject: line
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08:33<Seanyo>that's bull, i'm sure memory allocation will jog someone's memory
08:33<cpet>Seanyo: these type of error require the driver to be run instead something such as ktrace or gdb
08:33<xeon-enouf>Seanyo: don't use /etc/modprobe.conf - and actually, mv it elsewhere
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08:34<Seanyo>what's ktrace and gdb i haven't used those as commands
08:34<cpet>timer started lets see how long it takes this time
08:34<xeon-enouf>nm .. i see you're trolling
08:34<cpet>xeon-enouf: :)
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08:36<aprendiz>boa dia
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08:37<cpet>debian doesnt have the mailing lists linked to usenet blah
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08:38<aprendiz>estou querendo sair do windows e utilizar o linux debian mas agora nao consigo aumetar a resolução da tela voce pode me ajudar
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08:40<xeon-enouf>cpet: they do - but you have to wait till googlegroups picks it up perhaps ;-)
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08:41<cpet>xeon-enouf: I use easynews
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08:41<xeon-enouf>cpet: (i recall reading atleast _one_ mailing list on googlegroups archives - can't recall specifics, and not to say ALL debain-* lists would be available)
08:42<cpet>i just need the debian-www list
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08:56<bobi1024>can i find help here
08:57<bobi1024>case I'm falling to debug
08:57<bobi1024>my problem
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08:58<bobi1024>i'm using debian squeeze 2.6.30-1-amd64
08:58<bobi1024>and after some automated apt updates
08:58<bobi1024>i'm unable to play *.mov streams
08:59<bobi1024>like appple trailers
08:59<bobi1024>local move files are playable
08:59<bobi1024>local mov files are playable
09:00<bobi1024>but when I try to watch http://*.mov every application fails
09:00<bobi1024>even the wget won't reconize da file correctly
09:00<bobi1024>even the wget won't reconize the file correctly
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09:01<bobi1024>the totem movie player recognize the stream as "text/html
09:01<bobi1024>not video
09:02<hexilein>hi
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09:02<Myon>the latter could mean that the web server is just broken
09:02<Myon>bobi1024: the mime type doesn't matter with wget
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09:03<bobi1024>i guess
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09:05<bobi1024>Myon i've tried to play the *.mov streams with virtual machnie running "Windows XP SP3"
09:05<bobi1024>no problem there
09:05<xeon-enouf>bobi1024: some plugin from your browser missing?
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09:06<petemc>didnt apple change something wrt the movire trailers recently?
09:06<xeon-enouf>bobi1024: "12:55 < bobi1024> and after some automated apt updates" is key
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09:06<bobi1024>petemc you might be right
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09:07<bobi1024>i'll have to check
09:07<xeon-enouf>why won't IW tab-complete it's own "about:*" things?
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09:10<xeon-enouf>bobi1024: "< bobi1024> even the wget won't reconize the file correctly" <-- you _sure_ you're grabbing the *correct* file? Have you ever used wget before for d/l .mov files from a streaming server?
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09:10<xeon-enouf>bobi1024: exact error messages might help - URLs are often obscured, or are playlist files, or many other things
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09:11<bobi1024>xeon-enouf 10x for the help
09:11<bobi1024>now i doublecheck and it's only for the apple trailers
09:12<bobi1024>they have done something
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09:13<bobi1024>and the XBMC plugin for apple trailers is not working ether
09:13<bobi1024>i guess i wolud just have to wait
09:13<petemc>boxee wasnt working for me last night
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09:14<petemc>
09:14<bobi1024>10x for the help ;)
09:14<petemc>http://linux-blog.org/Apple-Denies-Linux-Access-To-Its-Movie-Trailers/
09:16<bobi1024>haha there it is
09:16<bobi1024>:)
09:17<bobi1024>i guess we will have to pay for the trailers like every other apple thing :)
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09:18<Nemoder>most trailers end up on youtube or other video sites anyway :P
09:19<xeon-enouf>haha @ "go to View >> Page Source. Look for a URL "
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09:21<xeon-enouf>c'mon ... /msg dpkg youtube script does exactly all that for player with youtube FLV videos
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09:22<chrisben>Good Morning!
09:23<chrisben>Would anyone know what program would be responsible for deleting PID files from /var/run ?
09:23<Gold24>whichever makes them
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09:23<alessandro>!list
09:23<dpkg>alessandro: VATTENE VIA
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09:24<chrisben>hrmm, there's not something cleaning up stale files or something? It's odd because the apps stay running, but the pid files disapear.
09:24<chrisben>seems to happen sometime overnight... so I was thinking some cronjob was messing me up
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09:25<petemc>something that deletes files it doesnt own in /var/run/ wouldnt be very good
09:25<chrisben>I wouldn't think so. I wonder wtf is going on then, lol
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10:12<InkBottle>Hi, I've got a strange problem of screen freezing: several times recently I've had the screen that has frozen, without anything that I could do "locally". This time I had a sort of turn off of the screen (as if the screen was dead). I killed "openbox" from a distant computer and the screen went back alive.
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10:31<jneves>anyone knows where I can find the correct way to change postgresql's pg_hba.conf in a package?
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10:32<petemc>apt-get source foo , make your changes, run debuild
10:32<petemc>that has worked for me in the past
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10:34<jneves>petemc: sorry, I meant in another (non-postgresql) package - I need to define restrictions for a database from the program that uses it
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10:37<petemc>jneves: oh, right, no idea - sorry
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10:40<jneves>petemc: thanks
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10:50<chrisben>In a bash script, can anyone think of a way to do something similar to: if [ "$VAR" in "$LIST"]
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10:51<[machine]>chrisben: if [ "`echo $LIST | grep $VAR`" != "" ]
10:52<valdyn>that does something else
10:54<[machine]>valdyn: how can you determine that... the original specification is pseudo code for which there is no exact
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10:55<xgpt>hello
10:55<xgpt>am I currently in freenode or on OFTC?
10:55<[machine]>oftc
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10:55<valdyn>[machine]: his pseudocode typically refers to finding exact matches as members of the list
10:56<xgpt>oh, okay
10:56<xgpt>thanks
10:56<valdyn>[machine]: but he could mean something else, sure
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10:56<chrisben>yea, that's what I'm trying to do
10:56<jneves>chrisben: RES=0; for item in $LIST; do if [ "$VAR" eq "$item"]; then RES=1; fi; done
10:56<[machine]>valdyn: so then you tweak the regexp... but since he hasn't specified the list structure
10:57<valdyn>[machine]: you misunderstand me
10:57<chrisben>jneves: perfect, thanks
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10:57<[machine]>valdyn: nope
10:57<valdyn>[machine]: your test would find "test" in the list "testing":"tester", even twice, but its not in there once
10:58<[machine]>if the list was specified as " " separated
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10:58<[machine]>then i would use " $VAR "
10:58<[machine]>were it comman separated i would use ",$VAR,"
10:58<[machine]>etc
10:58<jneves>[machine]: $IFS can have more than a char, you'd need all combinations
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10:59<[machine]>jneves: he didn't specify he was using IFS... but yes, in that case i would
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11:00<orjan>Is the amd 770 chipset supported in lenny?
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11:01<valdyn>orjan: get the pci ids and refer to
11:01<valdyn>!hcl
11:01<dpkg>[hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists are at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/, or ask me about <modinfo pci alias>.
11:01<valdyn>or
11:01<valdyn>!which driver
11:01<dpkg>To work out what module you need to load for your PCI card, try pasting the output from "lspci -n" into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ . To determine the driver currently associated with an existing network interface: grep PHYSDEVDRIVER /sys/class/net/*/uevent
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11:04<orjan>valdyn: ok thanks, off to read. only I'm planning what to buy, I don't have the hardware yet.
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11:06<valdyn>orjan: i dont see anything in that chipset that needs support at all
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11:06<valdyn>hmm, maybe it includes the disk controller, that one then
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11:07<valdyn>i believe they use 3rd party disk controllers
11:08<valdyn>orjan: sometimes its not that easy to see whats actually on that board
11:08<valdyn>orjan: ahci controllers are supported, thats what most chipsets support now iirc
11:09<orjan>valdyn: ok
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11:11<chrisben>I'm using a script to scp an updated config directory (for dansguardian) to multiple hosts. Is there a way to make scp only transfer files that are different, or do I have to configure rsync?
11:11<petemc>use rsync
11:12<petemc>no configuration necessary
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11:12<chrisben>hmm, k I'll have to dig in a little more, thanks!
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11:13<ml|>rsync is great :)
11:14<stuckey_>Anyone know how to print just a selction in conkeror?
11:14<stuckey_>damn it, I'm stuckey_ again instead of stuckey
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11:19<cahoot>stuckey: judging from google it's not possible
11:19<cahoot>(if the question concerns konqueror)
11:19<stuckey>!conkeror
11:20<stuckey>Ah, it's a web browser...
11:20<navtux>yes
11:20<petemc>!konqueror
11:20<dpkg>rumour has it, konqueror is a great webbrowser, filemanager, viewer et al and is located at http://www.konqueror.org
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11:20<stuckey>No not konqueror, conkeror.
11:20<cahoot>sorry
11:20<navtux>what is it
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11:20<petemc>one sounds like the phonetic spelling of the other
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11:20<stuckey>You should use it... it's awesome.
11:21<stuckey>Has emacs style key bindings... I don't like emacs but I like this browser.
11:21<cahoot>hah I've stopped trying new apps
11:21<petemc>i do most of my web browsing on a mac and safari is Good Enough
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11:23<navtux>i got the problem with my pidgin
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11:23<navtux>it has uninstalled unfortune
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11:57<zedboy>Now this is a new one: randomly, apache serves up php as blank files. wait a second, click again, and it comes up fine.
11:58<koollman>zedboy: any loadbalancing or similar setup ?
11:58<zedboy>nope
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11:58<InkBottle>I reask the question I asked some time ago: "Hi, I've got a strange problem of screen freezing: several times recently I've had the screen that has frozen, without anything that I could do "locally". This time I had a sort of turn off of the screen (as if the screen was dead). I killed "openbox" from a distant computer and the screen went back alive."
11:58<zedboy>ooh here we go, a whole bunch of notice] child pid 31887 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
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11:58<zedboy>in error.log
11:59<InkBottle>I've seen nothing on dmesg nor in Xorg.log
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12:00<handjob>Hi gentleman. I've got this problem : i need to generate xorg.conf but first i need to kill x. When i kill x the gdm starts automaticly so i try the 'gdm stop' but when i do so it starts x in other terminal. How can i kill x for a while?
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12:00<InkBottle>handjob, C-A-f1
12:01<zedboy>so if something's dying ... it's the php subprocess? weird - why?
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12:01<handjob>InkBottle, i am not doing this from X terminal ; S
12:02<InkBottle>handjob, you'll be in a console that does not depend on wether x is started or not
12:02<InkBottle>handjob, ok
12:02<handjob>InkBottle, Well i did all that i have wrote in my first message form c a 1
12:02<koollman>zedboy: most likely : bad php module, hardware (memory) problem.
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12:03<InkBottle>handjob, maybe you should look in the direction of "init level"
12:03<zedboy>koollman: hopefully the memory on this puppy is safe, i think it's even ecc :-)
12:03<koollman>zedboy: never trust the hardware :)
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12:04<handjob>InkBottle, i was hoping that there is more simple sollution then cheanging runlevels
12:04<InkBottle>handjob, "sys V run level"
12:04<handjob>InkBottle, However thx.
12:04<zedboy>koollman: it's a dual-xeon xp x4k workstation, it takes so long to test all its memory on boot it better be ok :)
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12:04<koollman>zedboy: I've seen memory errors on similar hardware
12:04<zedboy>koollman: i think more likely something flakey happend on a php upgrade
12:04<koollman>(or 'better' one)
12:05<zedboy>koollman: i'll have to go back to the pIII-500 that was the previous db server :)
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12:05<koollman>zedboy: verify your php installation first, of course. if you have any non-standard php modules compiled for the previous version, or non-upgraded modules...
12:05<koollman>(or modules from 3rd-party repository)
12:05<zedboy>koollman: it's all totally plain vanilla, testing
12:06<koollman>zedboy: can you reproduce the segfault from a shell ? (installing php5-cli and running the 'bad' script directly)
12:06<zedboy>koollman: that's the thing - it's not consistent. wait a minute and reload the web page and it works.
12:07<zedboy>koollman: i'll have to be quick on the trigger and run php5 from a shell right when it's acting up.
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12:08<koollman>anything else in the logs?
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12:08<koollman>(most likely in kern.log or daemon.log)
12:09<zedboy>koollman: need to check.
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12:10<zedboy>koollman: all quiet.
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12:10*zedboy needs to match apache2's error.log with the serves in access.log
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12:12<zedboy>ok not so surprising: when the child process crashes, nothing gets written to access.log :)
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12:16<zedboy>ok at least this is a recent phenomenon - last week's error log has lots of segfaults, but the previous week's seems clean (and people in the office only started complaining this past week)
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12:17*zedboy suspects a funky upgrade ... time to upgrade again
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12:25<woocyfear>Hello
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12:25<woocyfear>i need some help
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12:26<woocyfear>i would like to install my webcam
12:26-!-dwayne [~dwayne@32.97.110.59] has joined #debian
12:26<woocyfear>but i don't know how to do that
12:26<woocyfear>i'm new in linux
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12:27<woocyfear>can somebody help me?
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12:28<cahoot>woocyfear: what version of debian is this?
12:28<woocyfear>lenny
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12:29<Imran-UK>assuming all is ok, how long might one expect a fsck on boot of a 1T ext3 filesystem to take?
12:29<cahoot>woocyfear: you have established the camera doesn't 'work' atm?
12:29<cahoot>woocyfear: I think cheese is the testprogram of choice
12:30<woocyfear>what is 'atm' ?
12:30<cahoot>woocyfear: you have established the camera doesn't 'work' ?
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12:31<woocyfear>it is a new camera, this is the first time i want to use, and i never had before camera on linux
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12:31<ml|>woocyfear: 'at the moment'
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12:32<cahoot>woocyfear: plug in the camera - start the program called cheese - picture yes/no?
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12:34<woocyfear>i have tv card too, it's working , now i installed and started cheese and i see my tv
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12:36<woocyfear>what i do now?
12:37<cahoot>woocyfear: the truth is I didn't understand what you meant with " now i installed and started cheese and i see my tv"
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12:38<cahoot>I though we discussed a webcam
12:38<woocyfear>you said - plug in the camera , start the program called cheese
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12:38<woocyfear>yes, but in cheese i see my tv
12:38<woocyfear>not my webcam
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12:39<woocyfear>in skype also
12:39<cahoot>woocyfear: no option to change the input for cheese?
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12:39<woocyfear>i didn't found
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12:42<cahoot>woocyfear: could you put the output of lsusb on a pastebin ( i e not here in channel)
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12:43<zedboy>koollman: found the culprit, there's an open grave bug against libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.10
12:44<zedboy>koollman: everybody's getting it, and downgrading :)
12:45<woocyfear>http://pastebin.com/d2513a800
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12:47<zedboy>oooh, 5.3.0
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12:48<woocyfear>what i do?
12:48<cahoot>woocyfear: seems the camera needs a module (driver) called gspca - try (as root) modprobe gspca
12:49<zedboy>wonder what that'll do :)
12:49<zedboy>or why 5.3.0 is in the repository if it's not current for any distro ....
12:50<zedboy>uh oh that didn't work.
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13:01<mana>hi guys :)
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13:03<mana>is somone using gnucash also having issues with qt3-wizard (4.1.2)? It is not found by gnucash even though it is in my path and I can start it by issue ./qt3-wizard by hand
13:03<mana>ehm im refering to aqbanking here of course :)
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13:05<woocyfear>i did that, now in cheese there is nothing
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13:06<mana>eeeh ... allright
13:07<woocyfear>in skype, at video options, there 2 choices, my tv, and LDLC OC7620+VC302
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13:08<woocyfear>what can i do now?
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13:13<woocyfear>any idea?
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13:14<dehqan>good day everybody, How To format fat32 partition ?
13:14<dehqan>In gparted just can format ext2,3 and swap and others are disabled .
13:15<olasd>dehqan: I think you need to have the dosfstools package installed to be able to format a fat32 partition
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13:17<olasd>dehqan: if you need any other filesystem, look at the "Suggests" for the gparted package (using "aptitude show gparted" for instance)
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13:19<dehqan>thanks alot olasd ,anda to have fat32 partition which one of w95 and w95(lba) should be selected ?
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13:20<dehqan>thanks alot olasd ,anda to have fat32 partition which one of w95 and w95(lba) should be selected in cfdisk app ?
13:20<olasd>dehqan: I use the ID "0x0b" (W95 FAT32) and it works
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13:21<dehqan>and what is the diffrences of it with w95 lba ?
13:21<olasd>I have no idea :)
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13:21<dehqan>thanks anyway
13:21<olasd>aw, I see
13:21<olasd>LBA seems to be for extended partitions
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13:23<dehqan>so in operation is there any differences ?
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13:23<olasd>well, this won't affect the filesystem anyway
13:24<olasd>it will only matter under windows. If it doesn't work, change it
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13:25<olasd>(my external HDD did fine with a fat32 partition with "0x83" (Linux) fs type, until I tried to make windows use it
13:26<olasd>changed to "0x0b", and it works now)
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13:28<woocyfear>somebody help me, please
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13:31<bja>!ask
13:31<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:31<handjob>Hi again. I am about to install nvidia drivers but there is one issue : in tutorial it says i need to chose from two types of drivers on this -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html site. I am not a king of math but i can tell there are 3 types and the tutorial does not mention 173.14.xx type of drivers. I am bit confused.
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13:33<woocyfear>!ask
13:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
13:33<woocyfear>!webcam
13:33<dpkg>For webcam device support in Debian, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo>, <ov51x-jpeg>, <ov511>, <quickcam>, <m560x-driver>. For device usage suggestions, see http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm or "mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:outfmt=yv12:device=/dev/video0". http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam
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13:35<arw>hello people
13:35<handjob>hello
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13:36<L1nUX1z3R>need help playing apple trailers
13:36<jthomas_sb_>I've installed Debian Sid, KDE 4.3.0, and Wicd on my laptop with ath5k wireless driver, but it isn't being found. How can I get this to function? EeePC 900a
13:37<L1nUX1z3R>hello...anyone? I need help with apple trailers
13:38<noflash>!tell jthomas_sb_ -about eeepc
13:38<jthomas_sb_>L1nUX1z3R we see that.
13:38<L1nUX1z3R>jthomas_sb_, sorry dude...can u help then? :)
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13:39<jthomas_sb_>what is your browser, what is your video player, have you looked for packages for quicktime playback?
13:39<L1nUX1z3R>firefox 3.0.1, using gecko player ...yes i have....here's a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245441&highlight=play+apple+trailers&page=3
13:40<L1nUX1z3R>tried that, didnt work
13:40<jthomas_sb_>try installing: aptitude install mozilla-mplayer libquicktime1
13:40<jthomas_sb_>then restart your browser.
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13:41<L1nUX1z3R>already have those...and they dont work
13:41<jthomas_sb_>hmm
13:42<L1nUX1z3R>apparently apple changed their site and i have to change some user agent thing to be able to use it.
13:42<L1nUX1z3R>click the link i sent u, u'll get what i mean
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13:45<jthomas_sb_>in firefox browse to about:config ; accept the warning; search for useragent and (apparently) change it to the QuickTime line given in your link, or as shown here http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8499/screenshotedituseragent.png
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13:46<jthomas_sb_>but i have no idea if that is normal or not, seems pretty odd to have a useragent as a QuickTime string
13:46<L1nUX1z3R>jthomas_sb_, i tried that...i still get prompted the same thing...
13:46<L1nUX1z3R>same here...but it worked for some
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13:47<jthomas_sb_>then i dunno, can you find the trailer elsewhere? :)
13:47<race321>fhtjcy*
13:47<race321>$ùx
13:47<race321>fgjn*$h
13:47<race321>$djx
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13:47<L1nUX1z3R>sure
13:47<L1nUX1z3R>http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/inglouriousbasterds/
13:47<L1nUX1z3R>try watching that..
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13:48<L1nUX1z3R>jthomas_sb_, well....that wouldnt really fix my problem...anyways, thanks for the help
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13:49<jthomas_sb_>i've not been able to watch apple stuff for a while and never relly tried fixing it, sorry man
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13:52<woocyfear>can somebody help me with my webcam problem?
13:53<woocyfear>!gspca
13:53<dpkg>The GSPCA driver provides support for digital cameras and webcams based on SPCA5xx chipsets. To install on Lenny or Etch, ask me about <gspca one-liner>. Module included in mainline kernel from 2.6.27. Supported devices: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html . See also <uvcvideo>, <webcam>.
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13:53<woocyfear>!gspca one-liner
13:53<dpkg>somebody said gspca one-liner was Etch (with 2.6.18 kernel) and Lenny: "aptitude install gspca-modules-$(uname -r) && modprobe gspca". Etch with 2.6.24 kernel: "aptitude install module-asssistant && m-a a-i gspca && modprobe gspca".
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13:54<chealer>!tell woocyfear about msg the bot
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14:13<xeon-enouf>chealer: you seem semi-apropos to answer my basic questions if you don't mind ;-) a) what OS is your prominent one (i ask because, you said 'i don't know "find" util well' or similar), b) why wouldn't a man page writer just copy and paste what's in the info pages (and call them manpages), if most info pages are more detailed? (please don't tell me it's a licensing issue) c) i forgot now, but it's related to b) :-P
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14:14<xeon-enouf>oh yeah - what precisely is with debian's issue with the DFSG and things like gcc-doc (non-free), and bash info pages?
14:15<xeon-enouf>i mean, did GNU change from GPL2.x to GPL-SOMETHING-OTHER?
14:15*xeon-enouf really isnot trying to start a war
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14:19<ysue>bonsoir
14:19<valdyn>!gfdl
14:19<dpkg>[gfdl] The GNU "Free" Documentation License, considered <non-free> by Debian in some cases. Read the discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html. See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html and resolution at http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001
14:19<valdyn>xeon-enouf: ^^
14:19<xeon-enouf>valdyn: thank you
14:19<xeon-enouf>ysue: aloha ;-)
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14:20<ysue>quelqu'un peut il m'aider a configurer xscipt pour un serveur précis? merci
14:20<chealer>xeon-enouf: a) Debian. b) did you see info2man? c) see section "Invariant Sections" of http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html
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14:20<chealer>!tell ysue about fr
14:22<ysue>i want to configure xsript to join europnet ,, i am under ubuntu
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14:23<xeon-enouf>chealer: thank you - and to your b) no, not yet
14:23<chealer>!tell ysue about ubuntu
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14:26<xeon-enouf>chealer: back to your answer of Debian as prominent; do you try to not use GNU specific utils? ..or is it just 'find', or anything 'non-shell-specific' you find somewhat disagreeable? (i hope you don't mind me asking)
14:27<ysue>ok thank you ,, i am on debian.fr
14:28<ysue>sorry ,, i don't speak easy
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14:30<maxb>Is it plausible to run debian-installer from an existing debian installation to bootstrap a new bootable install into another empty hard disc in the machine?
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14:32<chealer>xeon-enouf: I use GNU utils of course. it's only find, I have nothing againt it, it just seems to need some knowledge which I never felt the need to maintain. I sometimes use konqueror to find files.
14:33<xeon-enouf>maxb: /msg dpkg debootstrap
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14:34<maxb>I know of debootstrap, but it's not quite the same thing
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14:34<xeon-enouf>chealer: i see - very plausible, from where i stand - however, i find that 'find' is basically the tip of really getting to know any modern shell intimately, such as bash (though i have had my own 'find'frustrations, many times over ;-))
14:35<tofix>hello all, tell me something, when i bridge 2 tap (each of them provide an ethX in kvm virtual computer ) i should be able to ping from each side of the tap if they are in a the same subnet or do i have somehting else to do before ?
14:35<maxb>It gets you to roughly the same place but some things in /etc/ are not setup in the way you'd expect for a real booting system when you debootstrap
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14:35<xeon-enouf>maxb: i guess i misunderstand then, b/c i think i recently just did what you're asking through ssh
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14:36<maxb>xeon-enouf: Well, for example, I would imagine you had to edit a few things like /etc/hosts, /etc/network/interfaces after the debootstrap, right?
14:36<xeon-enouf>maxb: IOW, not just another empty HDD, but another machine's HDD
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14:36<maxb>two HDDs, one machine, the eventual intent being to entirely retire the current bootable HDD
14:36<xeon-enouf>maxb: i had to setup the HDD prior is all (partition it and mkfs on it -that's it, then mount that partition)
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14:37<xeon-enouf>maxb: ifollowed the Installation Guide's procedure
14:37<xeon-enouf>maxb: sounds like you might want rsync ;-)
14:37<maxb>No
14:37<xeon-enouf>...
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14:37<maxb>The point is to install a fresh system, not duplicate the existing one
14:38<xeon-enouf>ok ... OK!
14:38<xeon-enouf>maxb: thenjust remove the other existing HDD!
14:38<xeon-enouf>and use the Installer ;-)
14:38<chealer>maxb: did you see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s04.html ?
14:39<maxb>I'm seeking to accomplish as much as possible over ssh
14:39<xeon-enouf>maxb: i did what i did over ssh
14:39<xeon-enouf>maxb: except the partitioning and mkfs
14:40<maxb>xeon-enouf: ok... and at what stage did you do IP configuration?
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14:40<tofix>noone for helping me on a bridge problem ?
14:41<tofix>:(
14:41<xeon-enouf>maxb: i forget offhand .. it's been a few weeks .. BUT, ido recall the stupid eth1394 iface trumped the other needed ethX,so ethX which SHOULD'VE been eth0 became eth1
14:42<xeon-enouf>maxb: but i was able to work through all my pitfalls fairly easily - ieven logged it into the #debian channel (step-by-step) on irc.freenode.net (as username 'enouf' then)
14:43<xeon-enouf>maxb: i need to step out for a bit -- bbl -- good fortune to you mate
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15:05<sartan>hmm
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15:07<sartan>есть кто из россии?
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15:09<InkBottle>Hi, after a update of today (testing/sid), the volume of the sound is low. What could have happened?
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15:12<chealer>!tell sartan about ru
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15:13<chealer>InkBottle: which packages were updated?
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15:14<InkBottle>chealer, some of xorg at least, but I don't remember the details
15:14<chealer>InkBottle: use dpkg's log
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15:16<woocyfear>Hello, can somebody help me?
15:16<woocyfear>my webcam is not working
15:16<sartan>my to
15:16<woocyfear>Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam
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15:17<woocyfear>this is my webcam
15:17<sartan>usb genius like cam
15:18<sartan>noname i think
15:18<sartan>what kind of driver i need to install ?
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15:18<chealer>!tell woocyfear about doesn't work
15:19<woocyfear>i installed already the gspca module, and it found in the list in the skype, at video options
15:19<chealer>!doesn't work
15:19<dpkg>Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>.
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15:20<woocyfear>there is no picture
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15:21<InkBottle>chealer, less /var/log/dpkg.log|grep "2009-08-24"|grep -v status|grep "upgrade\|install\|remove"|wc -l => 369 do you want I paste it?
15:21<chealer>InkBottle: yes
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15:22<woocyfear>what i do , please help me
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15:24<InkBottle>chealer, http://paste.debian.net/44939/ -> dpkg.log
15:25<chealer>InkBottle: did you reboot to the new Linux?
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15:28<InkBottle>chealer, yes I've rebooted
15:29<yury>I have an amd64 install of lenny. sun-java6-plugin is installed, but firefox does not see it.
15:30<chealer>InkBottle: does the volume change depending on whether you use 2.6.26 or 2.6.30?
15:30<woocyfear>nobody can help me??????
15:30<InkBottle>chealer, I didn't try that
15:30<chealer>woocyfear: there is no picture when?
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15:31<woocyfear>for example when i want to use in skype, during a call
15:31<InkBottle>chealer, do you think it's likely to work if I run the previous kernel?
15:31<woocyfear>nor in cheese
15:32<InkBottle>chealer, because if you think so I can do the test and come back later
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15:35<woocyfear>any idea?
15:35<chealer>woocyfear: did you try luvcview?
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15:36<woocyfear>i can't believe that nobody can help me
15:36<woocyfear>no
15:36<woocyfear>i will now
15:36<chealer>InkBottle: I didn't understand that anything was "broken", but yeah, I think the difference likely comes from the Linux upgrade.
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15:38<woocyfear>Error opening device /dev/video0: unable to query device
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15:39<gpslett>HI everybody, could anyone suggest me a good channel about GPSs?
15:39<gpslett>thanks
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15:41<woocyfear>???????????/
15:43<chealer>woocyfear: which Debian suite do you use?
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15:47<seanh>Hey, what's the easiest way to install Debian stable text only? I want no X server, but I do want my wireless card to work. The standard Gnome install worked.
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15:49<rudi_s_>seanh: Use the netinstall CD and don't select any other tasks when asked in the installed. Then use aptitude to install the applications you want.
15:49<rudi_s_>!tell seanh about wlan
15:49<chealer>seanh: install, and unselect the "Desktop environment" task
15:49<seanh>rudi_s_: Thanks. Will the netinstall CD install the same wireless drivers as come with the standard gnome install?
15:50<seanh>chealer: thanks
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15:50<rudi_s_>seanh: Yes, I think so.
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15:50<seanh>chealer: Will unselecting 'Desktop Environment' get rid of everything, even the X server?
15:50<chealer>seanh: yes
15:51<seanh>Thanks ... I think that sounds easiest then, I can just use the standard install CD. I'll give it a try
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15:51<yury>so, epiphany sees the java6 plugin, but iceweasel does not
15:51<woocyfear>lenny, kwrnwl 2.6.26-2
15:51<rudi_s_>seanh: If you want a even slimmer system you can also deselect "base system" (not sure how it's named, last task in the installer).
15:51<yury>any ideas?
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15:52<seanh>Oh actually I'm talking nonsense, it's a desktop and just needs to use the wired ehternet card
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15:52<seanh>rudi_s_: And what does that deselect?
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15:52<rudi_s_>seanh: Not sure exactly, some more packages which are used on most systems. I never use it and then install the programs I need.
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15:53<chealer>rudi_s_: "*standard* system", *not* the base system
15:53<rudi_s_>chealer: Ah, thank you. I didn't remember the name.
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15:53<seanh>rudi_s_: I guess I can inspect it when I run the installer. I'll probably want the base system, I'm setting it up as a desktop PC for email, writing, music and radio, podcasts, etc., but it's just too distracting, I'm hoping with a text-only environment I will waste less time and maybe learn a thing or two
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15:54<seanh>Anyone know anything about making the fonts look nicer, higher res and smoothed, without X? Is there anything that can be done? Not a major priority really but it comes to mind
15:54<chealer>yury: how did you install the plugin?
15:54<rudi_s_>seanh: If you want a text only system then you can disable "standard system" (thanks chealer) and just use the plain system. Then install what you need.
15:54<yury>aptitude
15:54<yury>but I found the problem I think
15:55<seanh>rudi_s_: Yep, thanks. I'm gonna go for it
15:55<yury>iceweasel is NOT looking at /usr/lib/mozilla
15:55<yury>but it IS looking at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
15:55*yury shrugs and symlinks
15:55<yury>someone should file a bug
15:55<rudi_s_>!tell seanh about fbcon resolution
15:56<rudi_s_>seanh: To get a higher resolution.
15:56<yury>hm...
15:56<yury>!tell yury about fbcon resolution
15:56<seanh>I don't seem to be getting the messages from the bot
15:56<rudi_s_>!fbcon resolution
15:56<dpkg>hmm... fbcon resolution is run "aptitude install hwinfo && hwinfo --framebuffer" as root, choose a mode from the resulting list of available modes. The mode will be named in hex, something like 0x305. Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with "# kopt=" and add "vga=0x305" (substituting your chosen mode), then run "update-grub" and reboot.
15:56<rudi_s_>seanh: ^
15:57<seanh>Thanks!
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15:57<rudi_s_>You're welcome.
15:58<juzam>Hi there
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15:58<rudi_s_>Hi.
15:58<seanh>You folkd s are a helpful bunch, +1 for debian
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15:59<juzam>One of my customer is looking for a training on drivers development for GNU/Linux Debian-based systems, in France. Please, could you recommand some ressources to find a good trainer? thanks in advance
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16:01<dr|z3d>!fr
16:01<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
16:02<juzam>ok, sorry - thanks gentleman
16:02<bja>local knowledge is best for that kind of answer
16:03<juzam>sure, but anyway english is ok for this training
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16:06<InkBottle>chealer, (I wasn't here :) ); I do the test and I tell you
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16:12<InkBottle>chealer, Well it happened what I feared should happened: rebooting with the previous kernel I have no sound at all :)
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16:12<InkBottle>any idea on how increasing the volume
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16:13<InkBottle>I reboot and come back
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16:21<InkBottle>chealer, sorry for what I said: the sound were actually working in 2.6.26
16:21<InkBottle>chealer, and the sound level was is ok in 2.6.26
16:22<InkBottle>chealer, so there is something between 2.6.26 and 2.6.30
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16:23<InkBottle>chealer, tell me if you think I should say "that" somewere
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16:26<jsubl2>unable to get the vmware modules to compile with linux 2.6.30
16:28<sney>check bts to see if anyone else has that problem/if there's a workaround
16:28<jsubl2>bts?
16:29<mhymn>!bts
16:29<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges
16:29<jsubl2>ok thanks
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16:37<bja>Is there a package with the libssl doc
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16:42<locklace>libssl-dev
16:42<bja>locklace: thx
16:43<woocyfear>can somebody help me?
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16:43<woocyfear>my webcam not working
16:44<woocyfear>Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. USB 1.1 WebCam
16:44<woocyfear> i installed already gspca
16:46<woocyfear>any idea?
16:47-!-mode/#debian [+l 390] by debhelper
16:47<woocyfear>i can't believe nobody can help me whole day i'm here
16:47<woocyfear>with this problem
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16:51<woocyfear>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
16:51<juzam>did you tried digikam?
16:51<woocyfear>is here anybody?
16:51<valdyn>!anyone
16:51<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
16:51<valdyn>!repeat
16:51<dpkg>Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org
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16:52<woocyfear>what is that
16:52<juzam>google is your friend
16:52<woocyfear>i searching already 2 weeks
16:52<juzam>for "digikam"?
16:53<woocyfear>oh, i am installing it already
16:53<dr|z3d>woocyfear: Your webcam sounds like a cheap chinese import. Driver support may be suspect.
16:53<woocyfear>gspca support it
16:54<dr|z3d>If it's any consolation, my webcam works in Linux, if you count permenant blackness and random visual glitches.
16:54<juzam>erf
16:54<juzam>!GNU/Linux
16:54<dpkg>well, gnu/linux is the GNU system running with the Linux kernel or the choice of the GNU generation, or ask me about "linux-and-gnu" and "why-gnu-linux"
16:55<woocyfear>i see nothing, seems to be freezed the picture
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16:55<woocyfear>where the video need to be
16:56<juzam>2 weeks spent on it, man, could you not just find $20 and buy a good one?
16:56<dr|z3d>Like I said, probably dodgy hardware with suspect ciruitry hacks. Not all cameras that are touted to work, or recognized actually do.
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16:56<woocyfear>i have already 3 kind and this is a good one
16:56<squelos>hi
16:57<juzam>heya
16:57<woocyfear>and not working nor 3
16:57<dr|z3d>It's no good if it doesn't work in the OS of your choosing. Try buying a brand that's well supported.
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16:59<woocyfear>is there some other linux channel , or something where i can get help?
16:59<juzam>!GNU/Linux
16:59<dpkg>methinks gnu/linux is the GNU system running with the Linux kernel or the choice of the GNU generation, or ask me about "linux-and-gnu" and "why-gnu-linux"
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17:00<dr|z3d>woocyfear: http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/webcam.jspx & http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html & http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-configure-webcam-in-debian-linux.html
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17:02<juzam>what says?
17:02<juzam>ls -ail /dev/video*
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17:02<juzam>zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i v4l
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17:05<juzam>http://www.funix.org/fr/linux/webcam.htm
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17:08<RedNix>hi
17:08<xeon-enouf>i'm too fucken smart for this shit
17:08<RedNix>I want to download debian
17:08<RedNix>do I need
17:08<RedNix>to download
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17:09<RedNix>all of this
17:09<RedNix>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2a/amd64/iso-dvd/
17:09<xeon-enouf>RedNix: ease up on the ENTER key please
17:09<dr|z3d>RedNix: Just the first CD is needed.
17:09<woocyfear> /dev/video0 /dev/video1
17:09<RedNix>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2a/amd64/iso-dvd/
17:09<dr|z3d>Or you can download the DVD image if you'd prefer a stash of everything available offline.
17:10<xeon-enouf>dr|z3d: stale
17:10<dr|z3d>You want 32bit or 64bit.
17:10<RedNix>here says debian-502a-amd64-DVD-1.iso 17-Aug-2009 05:51 4.4G [ ] debian-502a-amd64-DVD-2.iso 17-Aug-2009 05:54 4.4G [ ] debian-502a-amd64-DVD-3.iso 17-Aug-2009 05:57 4.4G [ ] debian-502a-amd64-DVD-4.iso 17-Aug-2009 06:01 4.4G [ ] debian-502a-amd64-DVD-5.iso so I need jsut DVD 1?
17:10<xeon-enouf>5.0.2 changes to .3 soon
17:10<xeon-enouf>yes; MOST ALL is the same - indeed
17:10<dr|z3d>xeon-enouf: True enough.. some folk like to have the full repos offline..whatever floats RedNix's boat. :)
17:11<RedNix>32bit
17:11<RedNix>I use AMD Athlon 64
17:11<dr|z3d>So 32bit is usually referred to as i386.
17:11<xeon-enouf>dr|z3d: so long as that enter key nonsense stops ;-)
17:11<dr|z3d>xeon-enouf: Couldn't agree more. :)
17:11<dr|z3d>!enter
17:11<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
17:11<RedNix>OK THANK u very much sorry for lot of messages
17:11*xeon-enouf ^fives dr|z3d
17:12<RedNix>thanks see ya
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17:12*dr|z3d low fives xeon-enouf.
17:13<xeon-enouf>dr|z3d: my original statement ("i'm too fucken smart for this shit") concerned stupid youtube nonsense -- but it's tiring, once you know, and spread the word and they put up defenses
17:13<xeon-enouf>dr|z3d: i hate messing with munged HTML
17:13<dr|z3d>xeon-enouf: Idoiocy is draining, sadly. :/
17:13<dr|z3d>(dealing with it, that is).
17:13<xeon-enouf>dr|z3d: yes -- please help ;-)
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17:15*xeon-enouf cries a thousand times for letting that album go ...
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17:16<xeon-enouf>"Y&T" Forever ...though i see tjhe ASSHOLE music industry actuallyrevised the real release ,,,, manoman
17:17<xeon-enouf>they added shit from later releases
17:17<xeon-enouf>what a fucken dump
17:18<bja>xeon-enouf: unless there is a package with the music on the official repos i believe this should go to #debina-offtopic
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17:19<xeon-enouf>bja: i don't care what you "believe" ;-)
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17:19<bja>xeon-enouf: you got the message :-)
17:19<bja>dr|z3d: where are the op when you need them?
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17:19<xeon-enouf>bja: i am a NASCAR, monster-truck rallying idiot
17:20*dr|z3d chuckles.
17:20<xeon-enouf>bja: can you help me please? they are squeezing myu Bible belt too tight!
17:21*bja looks for his 5" pocket knife
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17:22<xeon-enouf>intelligence can feel "threatening" ... sorry
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17:25<netzwurm>hi.
17:25<netzwurm>is there a way to edit the volume id of a vfat filesystem under linux?
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17:26<Tekla>hi
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17:26<Tekla>who can i poke about Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashing on me in vnc? :)
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17:27<xeon-enouf>yes netzwurm
17:27<xeon-enouf>netzwurm: use mtools,IIRC
17:27<dr|z3d>Tekla: the kde folk. or the vnc folk. or both.
17:28<Tekla>adn where do i find them? :)
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17:28<muhammad>hey guys
17:28<dr|z3d>Google is your friend. Freenode is likely.
17:29<xeon-enouf>netzwurm: you _have_ noticed it's onlya 8bit or so ID,yes? look at /dev/disk/by-*
17:29<muhammad>hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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17:29<netzwurm>xeon-enouf: i might have meant label. and mlabel seems to do what i want.
17:29<netzwurm>xeon-enouf: thanks.
17:29<muhammad>??
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17:30<bja>dpkg: tell muhammad about ask
17:31<xeon-enouf>Description: Tools for manipulating MSDOS files
17:31<xeon-enouf>must be a newwr pkg
17:31<muhammad>bja what say ?
17:31<muhammad>u speak arabic
17:31<muhammad>>?
17:32<xeon-enouf>muhammad: you ever hear "black hole sun" ?
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17:33<muhammad>ok man
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17:33<muhammad>yup
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17:42<xeon-enouf>~$ apt-cache show mlabel
17:42<xeon-enouf>W: Unable to locate package mlabel
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17:43<xeon-enouf>netzwurm must be on a *booBOO variant
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17:43<xeon-enouf>netzwurm <---you suck ;-)
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18:17<miguel>i use grub to select between many bootoptions however im unsure how to change the default one ...
18:18<miguel>i can do "default n"
18:18<miguel>but i do not like this approach
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18:18<miguel>because its confusing
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18:19<miguel>hmmm
18:19<miguel>or ill move my default boot entry to the top
18:19<miguel>and leave : "default 0"
18:20<adama26>ok
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18:21<miguel>sry for bothering :)
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18:52<stuckey>Can apache be configured so that you can put your html files in yoru home directory? or any other directory?
18:52<stuckey>I thought you had to put them somewhere in /var?
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18:53<rudi_s_>stuckey: Try userdir; then you can put them in $HOME/public_html and access them with localhost/~username/
18:54<rudi_s_>Group www-data needs read access though.
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18:54<stuckey>rudi_s_: what's www-data?
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18:54<rudi_s_>stuckey: The group/user which apache uses has that name.
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18:54<stuckey>rudi_s_: I just bought some webspace, and I sshed into it, and I put an "index.html" in ~/website.com (it was already set up with this directory) and it showed when I went to www.website.com
18:55<durruti>chanel IRC in spanish?
18:55<rudi_s_>stuckey: They might using different paths.
18:55<stuckey>!es
18:55<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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18:55<durruti>thanks
18:56<stuckey>rudi_s_: but that's perfectly normal/okay to do it like that? I can put all of my stuff in ~/website.com ?
18:56<rudi_s_>stuckey: Sure.
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18:58<stuckey>Now I just got to figure out something to do with this server...
18:58<rudi_s_>;-)
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19:04<burnclouds>when I shutdown the rt2860 requests the firmware but this fails and it takes a good 5 minutes to shutdown. Any fix?
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19:10<burnclouds>Hey, I have the lastest trunk kernel. The rt2860 driver is requesting a firmware on shutdown. For some reason the firmware request timesout. This causes the shutdown takes a good five minutes. Does any one know to stop the firmware resuest on shutdown or make the request succeed?
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19:17<knoppix_>ls
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19:20<Guest148>hola
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19:21<Saskwach>Does anyone know what I have to do to get old style X forwarding to work on Lenny? I tried "xhosts +" and port 6000 is still not accepting incoming connections.
19:22<Saskwach>er, s/xhosts/xhost/g
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19:26<Saskwach>Never mind, I think I found it in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc.
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19:47<stuckey>how do I copy a file from local to another machine via ssh?
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19:47<groolot>hi stuckey
19:47<stuckey>hi
19:48<groolot>do you have an access on the distant machine
19:48<groolot>?.
19:48<stuckey>Yes, via ssh
19:48<groolot>ok
19:48<groolot>well you can use scp
19:48<groolot>that is a copy tool over ssh
19:48<stuckey>I figured that much... but I'm not sure of the syntax
19:48<groolot>then
19:48<groolot>imagine you want to copy the file
19:49<groolot>/home/someone/file
19:49<groolot>to the remote machine 90.120.12.123
19:49<prahal>hi should I ask in -devel . Is there work to fix console-setup and gnome for multiple keyboard with different mappings . Currently one have to modify system scripts for to obliterate console-setup overriding hal fdi with proper settings and gnome well it has no support at all for that (only mean is to add both mappings and switch by clicking)
19:49<groolot>inside the directory : /root/file
19:49<prahal>the worst being console-setup because it overrides everything
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19:50<groolot>scp /home/someone/file root@90.120.12.123:/root/file
19:50<groolot>of course
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19:50<groolot>you have to gain a root access
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19:50<groolot>else, if you have an account somebody on the remote machine
19:51<groolot>replace "root@90.120.12.123" by "somebody@90.120.12.123"
19:51<stuckey>groolot: thanks! I got it now
19:51<groolot>stuckey : is it right ?
19:51<stuckey>groolot: like RTS games?
19:51<stuckey>yes, you had it right
19:51<groolot>;)
19:51<stuckey>I was uploading deb files for an RTS game I just packaged...
19:52<groolot>have fun
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20:16<matiuspy>alguien habla español
20:16<bja>!es
20:16<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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20:16<matiuspy>dpkg, ok brother
20:16<dpkg>matiuspy: no idea
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20:17<matiuspy>dpkg, are you USA?
20:17<dpkg>matiuspy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
20:17<bja>matiuspy: dpkg is a bot
20:17<bja>dpkg: are you a bot
20:17<dpkg>bja: I give up, what is it?
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20:18<bja>dpkg: bot
20:18<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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20:27<jidm>hi. im trying to male a pxe install of debian. any good tutorial about it?
20:27<jidm>i think i'm not making a good dhcp3 configuration
20:28<jidm>im trying to make (typo)
20:31<abrotman>the install guide does cover PXE a little bit .. have you seen that?
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20:37<burnclouds>I have an mmc reader built in to my system
20:38<burnclouds>It worked in 2.6.28 and now in 2.6.30 I can't make it work. Any ideas?
20:38<burnclouds>mostly the devices don't show up.
20:40<chealer>burnclouds: sure, check logs
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20:41<burnclouds>didn't see anything in dmesg
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20:52<tangke>hi all
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20:57<tangke>List
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21:13<SuperMiguel>whats the best raid 0 stripe size to install debian?
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21:52<SuperMiguel>whats the best tool to find my HD transfer rate?
21:53<abrotman>!multiask
21:53<abrotman>!multiple ask
21:53<dpkg>The chance of you getting a useful answer is inversely proportional to the square of the number of times you ask in a short amount of time: that is, if you ask four times in succession, you're 1/16 as likely to get a useful answer. Also, please don't ask both in freenode and OFTC at the same time; there's no real point in doing so and it's just annoying.
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22:52<ngochai>hi guys
22:54<ngochai>I'm running lenny, I cant install pidgin 2.5.9 from sid no matter apt pinning I have set
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22:55<ngochai>apt-cache policy shows that unstable has priority of 990 (biggest)
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22:57<ngochai>still apt-get install pidgin complains about unmet dependencies: libstartup-notification0
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23:22<jidm>hi. im trying to install debian testing using USB pendrive. My laptop boots from the pendrive, but i only see a black screen, nothing loading.
23:23<user01>how do i add 1366x768 resolution so i can watch on my lcd tv?
23:23<jidm>user01 you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
23:24<jidm>look there for the resolutions and add yours too manually
23:24<user01>jidm, is that it or would i have to install a special package for widescreen?
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23:24<jidm>no special package
23:25<jidm>it should work. Add your preferred first to the list, so if that doesnt work, your system will try the next one
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