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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-08-27

---Logopened Thu Aug 27 00:00:30 2009
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00:02<chealer>ineslxpt: there's no such thing. you can tell what you're trying to do
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00:03<ineslxpt>I was looking in the wiki... I installed some memory in my computer but neither the free command or the gnome hardinfo seem to see it
00:08<sney>does it show when you POST
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00:10<ineslxpt>sney: I honestly don't know what that is.
00:11<sney>when your computer turns on, before the operating system comes up, it puts some words on the screen and usually does a memory check
00:11<sney>stands for Power On Self Test
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00:11<sney>if it just shows you a big logo you can usually hit escape to see how much ram it detects
00:12<ineslxpt>sney: No it doesn't recognize it then either.
00:12<sney>well then it's a hardware issue
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00:12<sney>are you sure the ram is fully seated in the motherboard
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00:13<ineslxpt>sney: It clicked just right. Unfortunately I can't seem to find a driver from the manufacturer's website either (I know that would be too nice)
00:14<sney>there is no driver for memory
00:14<sney>it either works or it doesn't
00:14<ineslxpt>I guess it doesn't then
00:14<sney>check the motherboard manual, sometimes it needs to go in special patterns
00:15<ineslxpt>okay, I'll tell you all it's an iBook G4 (there's really not much I can do to it)
00:15<sney>ah, hmm, laptops often have a maximum amount of ram you can install
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00:17<sney>ineslxpt: how much were you trying to add? wikipedia says the ibook g4 only supports a max of 1.25 or 1.5 GB
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00:19<ineslxpt>I was only putting 512MG
00:19<sney>what speed?
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00:21<ineslxpt>800Mhz
00:22<ineslxpt>it was a really basic (weak) laptop
00:22<sney>ohh that one, I think the memory limit is lower on that
00:23<sney>640 or something
00:23<ineslxpt>yes that's what it would end up at, if it accepted my little upgrade
00:23<sney>mm maybe the ram is too fast
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00:24<sney>anyway you'd be better off finding a mac expert, I'm a laptop guy but I don't have much experience with them
00:24<BrawnGP>help on adding routes to openbve
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00:25<ineslxpt>You could tell me it's the carburetor, at this point I would believe
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00:27<ineslxpt>sney: thank you for the brief brainstorm, I learned a bit.
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00:39<acu>what happened ? is first time when I see in debian testing - really the latest desktop version for most applications ? - I mean this is good - it is how it what makes sense - though if the target is to release squeeze in Dec is kind of tight - but I am really happy
00:39<acu>Thanks to all who contributed
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01:12<gonzalo>hi!
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01:24<hand>This is my first time chat. Is this working well?
01:24<sney>hi
01:24<hand>Is there someone here ?
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01:25<sney>I'm here. do you have a question?
01:25<hand>hi > sney
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01:26<hand>I have too much questions but my english is not well made.
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01:26<sney>just ask
01:26<sney>I will try to help
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01:29<hand>I try to understand how this XChat to use.
01:30<hand>anyway , hello and thank you. > sney]
01:30<sney>you're welcome
01:31<hand>quick response. I have to do like that too.
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01:32<hand>How many people here ? I read debian web site and it says program are a lot but not real human in IRC. Is that true?
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01:33<jmarsden>hand: A lot of people leave their machines listening in here, so out of 351 connections, not that many will be actively at their machines reading #debian right now.
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01:34<sney>and now we wait while he uses babelfish
01:34<hand>Does it mean almost all are ROM(read only m)?
01:34<hand>sorry > jmarsden
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01:35<sney>no, it means that computers are running, but people are away
01:35<spokz>:)
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01:36<hand>somehow computer world is wide, too many things to know.
01:37<user01>\join #latex
01:37<sney>computer world is very wide haha
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01:38<hand>do you know this song by Kraftwark
01:40<hand>(my xchat is a bit strange. right side of sentence is cut. I can't read all strings.
01:40<sney>strange
01:41<sney>is your screen small?
01:41<hand>no
01:41<hand>it is 17inch
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01:47<gonzalo>where r u from?
01:47<gonzalo>where r all from?
01:47<hand>Do you mean me ? > gonzalo
01:47<hand>If so, I am ja.
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01:51<karol>hello
01:51<hand>hello
01:54<gonzalo>yea
01:54<gonzalo>japanese
01:54<gonzalo>r u using slack?
01:55<gonzalo>sorry debian :P
01:55<hand>i use now debian.
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01:55<k1lumin4t1>which linux app provides support for photoshop (.psd) files?
01:57<hand>I don't know I've never been involved photoshop or something graphic.
01:58<jmarsden>k1lumin4t1: xnview or GTKsee, I think
01:58<jmarsden>Just for viewing them, that is.
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02:02<hand>now I' going to try pidgin. So thank you everyone.
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02:05<olegb>k1lumin4t1, gimp seems to want to open .psd files
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02:08<gonzalo>i've a laptop and right now im using ubuntu 64
02:08<gonzalo>it goes quite good, and i dont have many problems, sometimes with flash and sound but all goes okey
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02:09<gonzalo>the thing is that i like slack mode things or maybe debian i hate graphical configuration, im with the kiss philosophy
02:09<gonzalo>keep it simple stupid
02:09<gonzalo>:D, but my laptop, all worked out of the box
02:09<gonzalo>intel drivers suck
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02:25<pexy>how to increase blocksize for tftp server? i need to transfer 91 MB file with atftpd, but with default settings, there is a 32 MB limit.
02:27<pexy>or is the client specifying the blksize?
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02:41<RMB>Hi, I am interested in the OS Debian, I would like to know if it's like Ubuntu
02:42<Yoda-BZH`Wk>!ubuntu
02:42<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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02:43<RMB>I already have Ubunut
02:43<RMB>I want to know about Debian and its benefits
02:43<brother->be more specific
02:43<brother->how long is a rope?
02:44<RMB>sure
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02:45<hand>hello
02:45<ogt>hey, how can i check the log from boot,
02:45<ogt>is it demsg?
02:46<RMB>Who here is also in Ubuntu server?
02:46<ogt>one other question, im on a laptop, everytime i boot, it says your battery is at 28% and may be broken, even tho the bios says its fully charged?
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02:47<ogt>nm on the log, i got it
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02:48<Yoda-BZH`Wk>salut/hi
02:49<hand>hi
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02:51<hand>as i'm beginer (ever), i can't help tech stuffs.
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02:55<jmarsden>RMB: I am in #ubuntu-server on Freenode ... but why does that matter to you? Ask your specific question in the appropriate channel.
02:56<hand>isn't your battery used for a long time ? then it's reconignized so. but it's running. it's ok.
02:57<gonzalo>your a bit stupid
02:57<gonzalo>im not asking for support im commenting
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02:57<gonzalo>and talking, and im using ubuntu in this f*king laptop
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02:58<gonzalo>i love debian , and slackware more
02:58<gonzalo>but i dont know why that agressiv
03:00<hand>please forgive me. I know I'm stupid.
03:01<RMB>jmarsden, because I was klined for no good reason that's why!
03:01<RMB>and I already emailed freenode
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03:03<Gun_Smoke>boy the last 20 minutes have been constructive.
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03:03<gonzalo>i hate intel drivers :S
03:03<gonzalo>:/
03:04<gonzalo>wekt puto
03:05<RMB>are you cursing
03:05<Gun_Smoke>I didn't even bother scrolling up past 2:40am EST
03:06<Gun_Smoke>kuso!
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03:28<hand>:)quiet room
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03:37<sentry>Anyone alive at this hour?
03:37<hand>i
03:38<sentry>done anything with lineakd?
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03:40<hand>honestly, i don't understand word 'lineaked'.
03:40<hand>'lineakd'
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03:40<sentry>lineak is a keyboard daemon for easy access keyboards
03:41<sentry>lets you map the extra buttons on your keyboard
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03:42<XayOn>sentry: I don't use lineak neither, and I think almost all people here are live.
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03:42<hand>thanks
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03:43<sentry>Hmmph.
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03:44<tsp>Which package are the module tools (/sbin/insmod, /sbin/lsmod, etc) in?
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03:49<sentry>dpkg -S /sbin/lsmod
03:49<dpkg>Package: /sbin/lsmod: Status: install ok installed
03:49<sentry>module-init-tools
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03:50<tsp>thanks
03:50<sentry>dpkg
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03:53<Smaffler>how do i install this? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535624#50
03:53<Smaffler>:( package managers won't do it and I'm not sure how to feed it into aptitude
03:54<weasel>you don't.
03:54<Smaffler>weasel: elaborate?
03:54<weasel>you are on stable?
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03:54<Smaffler>yes, but i was advised to install this to correct a problem with X and my screen resolution
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03:55<weasel>that package will probably be part of the next lenny point release
03:55<weasel>then you'll get it automatically
03:55<weasel>or you can go fetch the .deb manually from lenny-proposed-updates and dpkg -i it. I'm not holding your hand for that tho.
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03:56<Smaffler>I can't wait until then. I can't change my screen resolution and the monitors available to me don't support the one it's chosen.
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03:56<Smaffler>(except this one, which fritzes out after about 20 minutes)
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03:56<Smaffler>ayou don't have to hold my hand, but would you tell me how to do it?
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03:57<Smaffler>thanks anyway, maybe i have enough info already.
03:58<weasel>I already did.
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04:00<Smaffler>i'm a bit of a noob. but i found it. now to figure out what to do with it. :D as I said, thanks.
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04:08<sentry>http://lnk4.us/PxzE
04:08<sentry>Anyone able to download that Unichrome driver?
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04:09<chealer>sentry: you either add proposed-updates to your APT sources, or you manually download the package and install it with dpkg
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04:09<weasel>the first is a very bad idea
04:10<sentry>I've got a P4M890 I've been fighting with...Unichrome Pro...was inches away from getting it working...
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04:11<sentry>I am stuck with metacity until I get a 3D driver working...
04:11<chealer>sentry: sorry
04:11<chealer>Smaffler: you either add proposed-updates to your APT sources, or you manually download the package and install it with dpkg
04:12<sentry>Why is the first one a bad idea, weasel?
04:12<weasel>because p-u does not necessarily work, make it into stable, is security supported. iow: it may screw you over bad.
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04:16<maxwell>hey!
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04:18<sentry>if you could tell me how to do one thing I can get this working hopefully...
04:19<Smaffler>he's going to ask the same question i wanted to ask.
04:19<sentry>I know nothing about git...I'm an SVN user...so I don't know how to roll my git clone of this directory back before this patch...
04:19<sentry>http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=17090cf3efb0db8fa01b502a9c0df27cbd1a67da
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04:21<sentry>I grabbed the directory not 3 hours after that patch was committed...and of course I get the error that he describes...
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04:38-Lolikon:#debian-EVERYONE ON FREENODE ARE FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOTS. THEY ALL SUCK DONKEY DICK AND ENJOY ANAL SEX AND JIZZ GOING DOWN THEIR THROATS. FUCKING BASTARDS. FUCK YOU ALL, AND LONG LIVE IMG.4CHAN.ORG/b/
04:38-Lolikon:#debian-EVERYONE ON FREENODE ARE FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOTS. THEY ALL SUCK DONKEY DICK AND ENJOY ANAL SEX AND JIZZ GOING DOWN THEIR THROATS. FUCKING BASTARDS. FUCK YOU ALL, AND LONG LIVE IMG.4CHAN.ORG/b/
04:38-Lolikon:#debian-EVERYONE ON FREENODE ARE FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOTS. THEY ALL SUCK DONKEY DICK AND ENJOY ANAL SEX AND JIZZ GOING DOWN THEIR THROATS. FUCKING BASTARDS. FUCK YOU ALL, AND LONG LIVE IMG.4CHAN.ORG/b/
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04:39-Lolikon:#debian-EVERYONE ON FREENODE ARE FUCKING NIGGER FAGGOTS. THEY ALL SUCK DONKEY DICK AND ENJOY ANAL SEX AND JIZZ GOING DOWN THEIR THROATS. FUCKING BASTARDS. FUCK YOU ALL, AND LONG LIVE IMG.4CHAN.ORG/b/
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04:39<tsp>what was that?
04:39<quaker66>lol
04:39<snogglethorpe>the wonder of 4chan
04:39<Maulkin>Akill added
04:39<tsp>I missed whatever you said, speech was off but it beeped so must be important
04:40<Gold24>tsp: it wasn't
04:40<tsp>oh, there it is... not important at all
04:40<locklace>i'm almost sad to tell him that this isn't freenode
04:40<kodein>I thought the rule was not to mention 4chan...
04:40<Gold24>good point locklace :)
04:40<kodein>yeah, that too
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04:40<kodein>or wait, this isn't freenode?
04:41<koollman>this is oftc
04:41<kodein>I knew that <_<
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04:47<snogglethorpe>#debian on freenode is even _more_ persnickety!
04:47<snogglethorpe>you get kicked just for using the letter "u" there
04:47<petemc>no you dont
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04:48<snogglethorpe>hmm, mabye it was the letter "t"
04:49<kodein>so it'd be debian gn/linx there?
04:49<snogglethorpe>kodein: careful!
04:51<kodein>yes, yes, ever so careful
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05:04<man_in_shack>anyone know of a simple-to-configure dns server?
05:04<kodein>I found dnsmasq sorta easy to configure
05:04<weasel>bind9.
05:04<kodein>but yeah, go for bind
05:06<man_in_shack>ok, checking it out
05:07<man_in_shack>you know, i wondered why it was so fast to /join here
05:07<man_in_shack>then i realised this is oftc, not debian :)
05:07<man_in_shack>gaqh
05:07<man_in_shack>s/debian/freenode/
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05:11<man_in_shack>ok, so now it's installed, how do i configure it? :D
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05:48<MegaMonster>Hi
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05:49<MegaMonster>is anybody can help me install fglrx on debian lenny?
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05:50<MegaMonster>I've tried a lot of articles, but nothing works
05:50<MegaMonster>After installation only a black screen
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06:04<helix>how do I enable dead keys? I did dpkg-reconfigure console-data but I don't see US american qwerty with deadkeys
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06:05<K4>Hello guys. How does grub parses devices numbers from menu.lst? If i have /dev/sda5 which number should I use in menu.lst for "root" entry? (hd0,4) or (hd0,5)?
06:07<kodein>it starts at zero, iirc
06:09<K4>the problem is that it doesn't in Lenny 5.0.2, but did in Lenny 5.0.0
06:11<K4>I've installed 5.0.0 and there was (hd0,4) in menu.lst. Recently I uses Paragon Partition Manager in windows to enlarge on partition, and it seems that it broke the MBR. I loaded Debian CD in rescue mode and reinstalled grub to /dev/sda.
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06:12<K4>After that it show "error 17"
06:12<K4>I loaded rescue cd again and changed (hd0,4) to (hd0,5), and this helped
06:12<K4>How is it possible??
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06:17<spokz>yea, maybe this paragon program harms your partition table
06:18<adb>Extended is not a real partition , so grub don't count it ..
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06:19<marcel_>hi, ive i would like to run debian bleding edge what version should i download then?
06:19<adb>grr , nice logic ;(
06:19<K4>root partition before Paragon was /dev/sda5, and after paragon it is /dev/sda5. But before Paragon grub worked with (hd0,4), and after - with (hd0,5)
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06:20<K4>(hd0,4) doesn't work any more
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06:20<giovanni>hi to all
06:20<giovanni> i need an help with a bash script that i'm writing. I need to pass the output of a `ls` to a select. So i store the ls to VAR and then pass it to the select. The problem is with 2 worded directory that appear in 2 rows. Can someone help me?
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06:21<adb>giovanni: > #bash on itc.freenode.net
06:21<adb>irc*
06:21<giovanni>thanks, adb
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06:23<leejongwook>how do i install Debian from live-usb
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06:24<adb>you can't
06:24<leejongwook>i see
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06:24<leejongwook>are you 100% sure ?
06:24<leejongwook>but i still can mount my hard disk with the live usb
06:24<adb>but , use debootstrap ..
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06:25<leejongwook>adb, thanks :)
06:25<leejongwook>googling debootstrap
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06:26<adb> leejongwook /msg dpkg debootstrap
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06:29<leejongwook>adb, :) thanks
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06:31<adb>but better use > /msg dpkg usb install
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06:32<spacepluk>hi, I need the previous version of a package is there any place where they are archived?
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06:32<leejongwook>adb, :)
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06:33<leejongwook>thanks adb see you next time ~ im gonna learn how with it, thanks :)
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06:33<adb>yw
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06:36<spacepluk>just wondering if I can avoid building it from source.
06:37<adb> spacepluk > /msg dpkg archive
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06:38<spacepluk>thanks
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06:48<aluno>aoooooooooooo
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07:02<eeeuser>Does anyone know why a webcam wouldn't work in camorama, but works fine in luvcview?
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07:31<slush>!webcam
07:31<dpkg>For webcam device support in Debian, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo>, <ov51x-jpeg>, <ov511>, <quickcam>, <m560x-driver>. For device usage suggestions, see http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm or "mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:outfmt=yv12:device=/dev/video0". http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam
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07:40<luciejen>hi i ve installed win 7 on a new hd and copy my debian partition with gpartedcd , i ve now booted with a live cd and chroot on my debian partition , could anybody explain me how i can reinstall grub2 now ??
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07:41<mjt>why do you think you need to reinstall grub?
07:41<mjt>how about just changing active partition instead?
07:41<luciejen>ho cause the installation of win7 remove it from mbr
07:42<mjt>i for one always install it into partition, not to mbr
07:42<luciejen>mmm in the mbr the actual bootloader is the one from win 7
07:42<luciejen>i love to have grub in the MBR
07:42<luciejen>with grub1 i knew the procedure
07:42<mjt>in mbr there's a tiny first stage bootloader which boots from an active partition
07:42<luciejen>but with grub 2 not
07:43<luciejen>yes and actually it is pointing to the win7 bootloader
07:43<mjt>it is not pointing to anything
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07:43<luciejen>yes it is pointing to the win 7 one
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07:44<luciejen>i have done it a lot in the past with grub1 with the setup ... command
07:44<berto>a bit offtopic here, but the nokia n900 has just been announced: http://maemo.nokia.com/
07:44<luciejen>but with grub2 i don t know how to do this and i would not like to erase my partition table
07:44<mjt>i never used win7 so far, but up to vista the mbr code did not "point" to anything
07:44<mjt>it just booted an active partition, nothing more
07:45<luciejen>mmm i va dumped the mbr on my previous disk and grub was installed in it actually it is the windows one
07:45<mjt>and a standard procedure was to run any non-microsoft fdisk to change active flag from win partition back to linux.
07:46<luciejen>don know i have always reinstalled grub with a chroot but with grub2 i don t know the procedure
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07:48<mjt>grub-install is still here, isn't it?
07:48<luciejen>yes
07:49<luciejen>with grub1 i lauched grub and in the grub command prompt i tye some command like setup ....
07:50<valdyn>luciejen: thats the same as just running "grub-install"
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07:51<valdyn>luciejen: and with grub2 you should probably run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" anyway
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07:52<luciejen>ok gonna try it ; simply it tooks all the night to copy the partition so i don t want to mess up anything
07:53<mjt>all night? that's a huge amount of data, probably several dozens of terabytes.... what's your storage looks like?
07:53<papul>is there no package management system in debian?
07:54<papul>is there no package management system in debian?
07:54<papul>is there no package management system in debian?
07:54<luciejen>1 tera byte disk , but gpartedcd is weird , when you increase , copy .... a partition it does each time a filecheck that takes 1 hours
07:55<mjt>in that case, dd is your friend
07:55<luciejen>papul : yes it is , apt
07:55<mjt>for a 1tb disk the speed expectd to be around 100Mb/sec
07:55<mjt>80Mb/sec min
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07:55<luciejen>mmm dd won't do any change in the partition table
07:56<mjt>should it? You said you were coping it, not changing
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07:56<luciejen>yes but from an internal hard disk to an usb one it tooked almost 6 hours
07:56<koollman>luciejen: isn't there some setting in gparted to not run fsck afterwards ?
07:57<luciejen>if you copy a partition from one disk to another , you have to signal it in the partitoin table
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07:57<mjt>signal?
07:57<luciejen>koollman : dont know
07:57<papul>luciejen, no synaptic?
07:57<luciejen>the strange thing a noticed , it is that if ou extend your partition from right to left (hope you understand)
07:58<luciejen>it doed
07:58<luciejen>copy - copy back to the beginning - extending
07:58<mjt>aha
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07:58<mjt>sure it'll move it
07:58<mjt>since you moved its beginning
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07:58<mjt>hence all data have to be moved
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07:59<mjt>if you were moved its end, only resizing has to be done
07:59<luciejen>yes but if the first copy is from another disk , it could directly copy it to the right position
07:59<mjt>sure
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07:59<luciejen>it does not :)
08:00<luciejen>mmm does i have to rebind my /proc and /dev inside my chroot partition ?
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08:01<luciejen>mount --bind /proc /mnt/sda2/proc ??
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08:02<valdyn>luciejen: you dont have to, you can
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08:14<engkeboy>i want to install debian lenny having 4hdds 1tb each and i want to make the 4hdds into a single partition.. how should i do it?
08:14<Gekz>engkeboy: use LVM2
08:14<Gekz>well
08:14<Gekz>engkeboy: do you want them mirrored
08:14<Gekz>or you want one 4GB partition
08:14<Gekz>spanning 4 drives?
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08:15<luciejen>update-grub grub-install /dev/sdx did the trick thanks
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08:16<engkeboy>i have an experience using lvm and i think i should not use that again.. 1 of my hdd went dead and i have to install again.. fortunately, i had my files backedup.. i want 4tb partition..
08:16<Gekz>engkeboy: that's the only way
08:17<Gekz>the most logical solution is 4 partitions
08:17<Gekz>one per drive
08:17<Gekz>so if you lose a drive, not everything is lost
08:17<engkeboy>yup
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08:17<engkeboy>i like that.. what should i use?
08:17<Gekz>what do you mea?
08:17<Gekz>partition table?
08:17<Gekz>MBR
08:17<Gekz>one primary partition
08:17<Gekz>per disk.
08:18<Gekz>mount them something like /mnt/disk1 /mnt/disk2 /mnt/disk3 /mnt/disk4 or whatever
08:18<engkeboy>so in total.. 4 parititons? excluding the boot?
08:18<Gekz>you seem confused as to what you want
08:18<Gekz>lol
08:18<engkeboy>if i do that can i set their mountpoint in a single directory like /var?
08:19<Gekz>lol you're being silly
08:19<engkeboy>hehe
08:19<Gekz>think about what you're saying
08:19<Gekz>if you want a /var in its own partition, make one
08:19<Gekz>you can make a new partition for each mount point
08:19<Gekz>and if you need more than 4 partitions, make the 4th partition into an extended partition
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08:19<Gekz>so you can use logical partitions
08:20<engkeboy>what i really want is to have 4tb in a single partition.. and you are saying that lvm2 is the only way right?
08:20<Gekz>indeed.
08:20<Gekz>and if any of the drives die, it's very hard to recover
08:20<engkeboy>yup
08:20<Gekz>I wonder
08:20<Gekz>you could possibly lvm two of the drives
08:20<Gekz>and run it in RAID
08:21<Gekz>so if one of the 4 died
08:21<Gekz>you could replace it
08:21<Gekz>but you'd have only 2TB of data
08:21<Gekz>but one partition as you wanted
08:21<mjt>md can do raid0 and linear too, not only lvm
08:21<Gekz>with minimal risk
08:21<adb>!enter
08:21<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
08:21<Gekz>mjt: really? didn't know that
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08:21<Gekz>adb: it's ironic because that rant about pressing enter took up more space than I did
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08:24<engkeboy>yup. with minimal risk but i don't really know how to manage it. i've read about using md but can't really understand it.. even tried it and when one of my hdd died.. i thought i just have to replace the hdd and everything works fine but it didn't.
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08:26<mjt>engkeboy: that's how raid0 works
08:26<mjt>engkeboy: be it md or lvm
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08:27<mjt>remove one disk and whole array is dead
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08:28<usuario05-08>si
08:28<mjt>if you want it to sustain one (or two) disk failures, use raid5 (or 6)
08:28<usuario05-08>que?
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08:28<usuario05-08>ok
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08:28<usuario05-08>si estabien
08:28<neglesaks>guys, pardon my boneneadedness, but does anyone know whats new in 5.02a? I have not heard the announce, and not been able to find any release notes?
08:29<bremner>!tell usuario05-08 -about es
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08:29<usuario05-08>no entiendo
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08:30<gsimmons>neglesaks: It is a rebuild of the 5.0.2 installation images to correct a package ordering bug ; /msg dpkg 5.0.2a
08:30<engkeboy>raid 5/6?
08:30<neglesaks>gsimmons, thank you.
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08:32<engkeboy>if i hav 4tb and used md raid5 i'll only have 3tb usable space right?
08:32<mjt>engkeboy: the units there are disks, not disk sizes
08:32<mjt>if you've N disks, usable space after raid5 will be N-1
08:32<neglesaks>engkeboy, should be, yes.
08:32<mjt>disksize*(n-1)
08:33<mjt>what you said is true if you've 4 disks by 1tb. if you've 2x2tb, your usable size will be 2tb, not 3.
08:33<mjt>but for 8x512gb disks you'll gave 3.5tb
08:34<mjt>s/gave/have/
08:34<neglesaks>indeed, i was about to say that. RAID5 uses one disk for ecc, the rest for data.
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08:34<engkeboy>ahh.. so its 3hdd. and if one of my hdd went dead? i just have to unplug the dead hdd and attach working hdd with the same size?
08:34<koollman>engkeboy: right
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08:35<mjt>the same size or largeer
08:35<koollman>(and add the disk to the raid array)
08:35<mjt>and tell raid to use it
08:35<mjt>yeah
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08:35<neglesaks>engkeboy, yes. i prefer drives of the same manufacture myself, but I'm just paranoid. :)
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08:36<koollman>I prefer drives from different vendors, because I'm paranoid too. But paranoia doesn't need reasons, right ? :)
08:36<engkeboy>and that's where the headache starts in me.. how can i add it to raid array and or tell raid to use it?
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08:36<mjt>mdadm --add /dev/mdfoo /dev/sdbar
08:36<koollman>(although I have a 7disks raid6 that just lost 2 disks and a spare disk ... same vendor, same firmware bug)
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08:37<neglesaks>good point :)
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08:37<neglesaks>koollman, i'm guessing Seagate, right?
08:37<koollman>right
08:38<koollman>one more disk and my company would have lost about 4TB of data. (ok, most of it is backups, still it's annoying)
08:38<koollman>so... different vendors.
08:38<koollman>:)
08:39<neglesaks>yeah. hard drives arent' supposed to die like flies in normal use. I've migrated to WD myself after losing a fair bit of data due to seagate breakdowns, but i can lament about that in -offtopic
08:39<koollman>(oh, and if you have ST31500341AS in production, contact seagate to get a new firmware, too :) )
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08:41<engkeboy>then i guess i have to use raid5.. thanks
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08:48<stfu>IDENTIFY
08:48<stfu>hmm
08:48<stfu>hi :-)
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08:50<jauistklar>hi
08:50<jauistklar>I got a problem with a java program... can anyone help me pls?
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08:55<Yeretik>Hi, i'm tryin' 2 download a complete folder using wget but i don't want to follow dynamic links, just files... Any suggestion ?
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08:56<Yeretik>I'm really want to make a mirror (just about debian) of http://downloads.linux.hp.com/SDR/downloads/ProLiantSupportPack/
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08:56<_AnywhereIs_>Yeretik: greetz to Cuba ;) btw how should wget know if file on remote server is symlink or not? :)
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08:57<_AnywhereIs_>or what is dynamic links
08:57<Yeretik>www.sampleurl.com?N=A for example
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08:58<_AnywhereIs_>ah. did you checked wget --help? doesn't it have something around don't follow ./ ? links?
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09:00<Yeretik>I've been on it for 2 days... Looks like simple, but i'm blocked
09:01<Yeretik>I need to download or mirror it... I've tried using debmirror ebmirror . --passive --progress --nosource --verbose --host=downloads.linux.hp.com/SDR/downloads/ --root=ProLiantSupportPack --dist=lenny --section=non-free --arch=i386,amd64 --timeout=1600 --method=http --cleanup --ignore-small-errors --ignore=tools/* --ignore=doc/* --ignore=ls-lR* --ignore=README* --pdiff=none --ignore-release-gpg
09:02<_AnywhereIs_>ew don't need to paste that here :(
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09:02<Yeretik>And the output is :
09:02<Yeretik>Download of dists/lenny/Release failed: 404 Not Found Download of dists/lenny/Release.gpg failed: 404 Not Found
09:03<Yeretik>Even using --ignore-release-gpg
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09:04<Yeretik>Any sugg ?
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09:14<enouf>well, /dists/lenny/current/ is where the Release.gpg file is, not dists/lenny/Release.gpg
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09:15<Yeretik>So how can i define it on my debmirror line ?
09:15<Uracil>hi i have a problem with the debian cd setup
09:15<enouf>no idea, tell the site maintainer to fix it
09:15<Yeretik>enouf, ?
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09:16<Uracil>at 10% it throws a error at:"disc-detect"
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09:16<Uracil>it says it were a broken disc
09:17<enouf>!check iso image
09:17<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum
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09:23*arw hello folks
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09:29<Uracil>i think it should be a good disc. I loaded a few discs, but nothing works
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09:45<toobaz>Hello. I have a question. Suppose that I apt-get install "a", and it depends on "b"; then, if I apt-get install "b", I get a message "b is already installed; set to manual install". Where is this information (the difference between being a dependence and being manually installed) recorded?
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09:49<marcel>hi, i just installed debian + desktop (gnome). What is the nicest/cleanest way of disables PLACES>RECENT DOCUMENTS?
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09:50<Gekz>marcel: I never noticed it was even there
09:50<Gekz>I imagine it would be in gconf
09:51<marcel>Gekz: lol
09:51<marcel>Gekz: hm i need to readup about gconf
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09:53<squelos>hello
09:53<squelos>something is borken in my iceweasel :( i cant go onto facebook and i cant post :(
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10:04<bremner>that is a feature
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10:06<bremner>squelos: seriously, you'll have to be more precise if you want help.
10:07<dr|z3d>squelos: Try safemode.
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10:07<dr|z3d>iceweasel -safe-mode
10:07<squelos>well im installing FF3.5 atm
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10:22<Tw33k^>hey debian gents
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10:23<Tw33k^>i've got an installation question if anyone can assist
10:23<Tw33k^>(i'm not really a noob if that helps at all)
10:23<petemc>just ask
10:23<Gold24>!ask
10:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:23<Tw33k^>lol
10:23<Tw33k^>k
10:23<valdyn>!noob
10:23<dpkg>Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not.
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10:25<Tw33k^>i have no cdrom or usb stick available in this installation scenario - i've mounted the iso for netinst in another distro (still bootable) and copied the files to a folder.
10:25<Tw33k^>i've pointed grub to that folder to boot
10:25<Tw33k^>i get to the install screen and it complains I have no cdrom
10:25<Tw33k^>obv ... i have no cdrom...
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10:26<Tw33k^>it doesn't seem to let me mount the folder to /cdrom/ - i thought i could 'trick' it
10:26<Tw33k^>in the busybox shell
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10:26<Tw33k^>but perhaps i'm doing that wrong
10:26<Tw33k^>advice?
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10:28<Tw33k^>?
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10:30<Tw33k^>does my inquiry at least make sense?
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10:31<Gold24>Tw33k^: why don't you just use the kernel and initrd.gz images of the installer?
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10:32<Tw33k^>Gold24: i am
10:32<Gold24>which one?
10:32<Tw33k^>testing
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10:32<Gold24>well there are different installer types
10:32<Tw33k^>netinst
10:33<squelos>i would try a "sudo fuck off" see what he says
10:34<Tw33k^>no need for sudo
10:34<Tw33k^>i'm root
10:34<squelos>tweek, its weird, coz i managed to do that type of install
10:34<squelos>ok :D
10:34<squelos>and im probly the biggest noob on this chan
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10:34<Tw33k^>like does it even need the install media once it gets to the install menu?
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10:34<Tw33k^>for netinst?
10:35<Gold24>well i did too a month or two ago
10:35<Tw33k^>do i need to mount the drive, then the folder containing the install media files to /cdrom/?
10:35<Gold24>no
10:35<Tw33k^>can i point it to the files somehow instead of it assuming it's a 9660 media?
10:36<Tw33k^>also fuck: command not found
10:36<Tw33k^>XD
10:36<squelos>tweek, try putting a blank cd into the drive :D
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10:36<Tw33k^>i dont have a drive
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10:36<squelos>oh
10:36<Tw33k^>its a dell latitude - the connector's borked
10:36<Gold24>you got them from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/images/netboot/debian-installer ?
10:37<squelos>damn, everything around me is borked.
10:37<Tw33k^>The requested URL /debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/images/netboot/ was not found on this server.
10:37<Gold24>well start from debian and choose whichever is closest
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10:38<Gold24>i manually typed it.
10:38<Tw33k^>Gold24: not sure thats what i'm using
10:38<Tw33k^>i just grabbed the netinst iso for testing from the http site
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10:39<Gold24>well that's where you went wrong
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10:39<Gold24>;)
10:39<Tw33k^>:3
10:39<Tw33k^>so...
10:39<Tw33k^>which parts of this do i need?
10:39<Tw33k^>are any of the files i have appropriate?
10:39<Gold24>the file linux is the kernel
10:40<Tw33k^>do i need to regrab it all or just the initrd and vmlinuz
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10:40<Gold24>linux not vmlinuz but yeah
10:40<Tw33k^>oh ya whatever
10:40<Gold24>just those to and point grub at those
10:40<Tw33k^>'swhat i meant
10:40<Gold24>:)
10:40<Tw33k^>ok ok
10:40<Tw33k^>rebootan
10:40<Tw33k^>brb
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10:42<XayOn>/leavef/leave
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10:49<buffoon>hi! I'm getting the following output on syslog: "ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet" again. I discovered the ip (another server) wich is causing that much traffic through dns lookups. I just can not figure out which process it is... any suggestions how to discover that?
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10:51<bja>buffoon: netstat and top can help you spot the little b..
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10:52<bja>dpkg: tell buffoon about open files
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10:54<astronut>ok, after a huge upgrade, my mouse cursor has changed - what themes that? i assume it's not my gtk theme...
10:55<buffoon>bja: that helped... thx...
10:55<buffoon>and lsof on ports is cool =)
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10:57<astronut>the upgrade included big chunks of KDE i think if that helps
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10:59<sylar>anyone knows how to update-initramfs from livecd using chroot?
10:59<bremner>astronut: yeah probably the oxygen icon theme
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10:59<petemc>sylar: in the same way you would if not in a chroot
10:59<astronut>bremner: where's that set?
11:00<astronut>also, x was upgraded at the same time as kde
11:00<sylar>petemc, I don't know
11:00<astronut>i don't like change :-P
11:00<sylar>petemc, either
11:01<bremner>astronut: maybe package oxygencursors
11:01<sylar>petemc, I had tried update-initramfs from chroot, and got no /proc/modules
11:01<petemc>did you mount proc?
11:01<astronut>bremner: ah-hah - dpkg.log has something about update alternatives changing my theme
11:01<astronut>but not the previous one
11:02<sylar>petemc, no
11:02<petemc>well that explains that
11:02<petemc> /msg dpkg fixmbr
11:02<petemc>that has instructions for properly setting up a chroot in a rescue environment
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11:23<paul>is envice the defaul pdf reader for ubuntu?
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11:24<bja>Guest479: ask in #ubuntu @ irc.freenode.net
11:24<Guest479>yeah I know I thought that is wwhere I wwas at
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11:25<bja>never mind, it is a bug in ubuntu that they haven't fixed yet
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11:26<astronut>hate gstreamer - why did amarok drop xine support?
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11:28<astronut>oh, phonon-backend-xine
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11:32<aa>hei
11:32<aa>do any one know the marker tool for the pdf reader in ubuntu
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11:34<rudi_s>!ubuntu
11:34<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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11:35<azeem>rudi_s: aa had left
11:35<rudi_s>azeem: Ah, sorry.
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11:48<marcel>hi, i just installed debian sid but i noticed there where differect sids how do i know i got the latest one and got the latest applications?
11:48<valdyn>marcel: there is not different sids
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11:49<ml|>there is only one sid
11:49<marcel>valdyn: what do you mean?
11:49<marcel>ah oe
11:49<marcel>oke
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11:49<ml|>marcel: /msg dpkg releases
11:49<marcel>well then it runs great!
11:49<adb>marcel: and don't cross post
11:50<marcel>adb: what do you mean?
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11:51<adb>marcel: don't post same question on both #debian channels ..
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11:55<marcel>adb: why not? there are different people on different #debian channels. so there are different opinions and advices
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11:58<jelly>marcel: perhaps what adb means, is to make optimal use of limited resources, and if there are people active in multiple channels, it would make sense to only ask channel two, three etc. if you don't get an answer from the first one
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12:00<stuckey>I don't see what's different about grub-pc (grub 2?)... I installed it but when I boot my computer, it looks basically the game.
12:00<jelly>stuckey, your g key is stuck?
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12:01<bja>stuckey: I believe the human interface of grub didn't change a lot, but the internals are quite different
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12:03<stuckey>There was supposed to be some sort or graphical element...
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12:06<dr|z3d>There is.. grub2 now supports higher resolutions.
12:06<dr|z3d>It also supports a background bitmap.
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12:09<astronut>is lirc broken for anyone else?
12:09<skullbox>im trying to install lotus symphany on my desktop and im running into issues. I took a look at this blog (http://oojah.fishbowl42.com/blog1.php/2009/07/15/ibm_lotus_symphony) which seems very straightforward, but when i run it, it tell sme that the package is i386 and not supported on my amd64. There is no other architecture download on the symphany website and im wondering if there is a way i can manipulate this to install correctl
12:09<skullbox>y.
12:09<marcel>jelly: yes i can understand what you mean but i hope you understand what i mean too. there could be people on freenode that arrent on oftc
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12:10<Tw33k^>'lo
12:10<bja>marcel: or the other way around, it doesn't matter it is indeed rude for thosee who are on both channels
12:10<Tw33k^>Gold24: you still there?
12:10<Gold24>pretty much
12:10<Tw33k^>heh
12:11<Tw33k^>i dunno if you recall assisting me with my netinst earlier
12:11<Tw33k^>anyway
12:11<jelly>marcel: natu'lly. People present on both channels can freely choose to ignore the request on one of them. Or both. :->
12:11<Tw33k^>i wget'd the netinst initrd.gz and linux files
12:11<Tw33k^>now I get some error about non executable something something - referring to the kernel
12:12<Tw33k^>the linux file
12:12<Tw33k^>any idea?
12:12<Tw33k^>am i missing something stupid like a chmod
12:13<dr|z3d>chmod +x
12:13<dr|z3d>Try that.
12:13<Gold24>uhm
12:14<Tw33k^>i didnt figure executable perms would matter for a kernel
12:14<Tw33k^>Gold24: can you confirm or deny?
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12:16<jthomas_sb>My lenny system tried to update nfs-usr-server but now it won't start, how can i dig into this?
12:16<bja>syslog
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12:16<Gold24>Tw33k^: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd
12:17<Gold24>look at that
12:17<Gold24>is that what you did?
12:17<jthomas_sb>bja syslog doesn't mention that package nor any of the aptitude stuff frokm today
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12:18<skullbox>im trying to install lotus symphany on my desktop and im running into issues. I took a look at this blog (http://oojah.fishbowl42.com/blog1.php/2009/07/15/ibm_lotus_symphony) which seems very straightforward, but when i run it, it tell sme that the package is i386 and not supported on my amd64. There is no other architecture download on the symphany website and im wondering if there is a way i can manipulate this to install correctl
12:18<skullbox>y.
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12:19<Tw33k^>Gold24: yes, I did kernel /debboot/install.386/linux UUID=uU1d0fmyDr1v3h3r3 ro
12:19<Tw33k^>initrd /debboot/install.386/initrd.gz
12:19<Tw33k^>it loads the initrd
12:19<Tw33k^>then kacks at the kernel
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12:19<Tw33k^>do i need to mv linux vmlinuz
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12:20<Gold24>Tw33k^: dunno
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12:38<ert34>How do I log my startup?
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12:39<cahoot>!bootlogd
12:39<dpkg>[bootlogd] disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to get your /var/log/boot file. For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg).
12:39<ert34>cahoot, :-)
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12:56<ert34>: Starting Hardware abstraction layer: hald[ERROR]
12:56<ert34>I got this error message always on startup or shutting down.
12:57<ert34>How do I fix it?
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13:02<jthomas_sb>bja syslog.0 does mention nfs but only, "Aug 27 11:01:11 victor nfsd[6658]: unable to register (nfsd, 2, udp)." Googleing that returns one result.
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13:03<jthomas_sb>oops, i meant, googling that returns many results, but none seem to fix it for me. all say to make sure portmap is running; it is
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13:04<jthomas_sb>nfs-user-server: Cannot register service: RPC: Timed out
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13:10<abraham>jthomas_sb, do you have a firewall on a router or something
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13:11<jthomas_sb>yeah i just got it -- stopped iptables and it started fine; then restarted iptables
13:11<jthomas_sb>thanks abraham for the followup
13:11<abraham>n/p
13:11<jthomas_sb>that was a lot of googling for a simple fix
13:11<abraham>sometimes it is
13:11<jthomas_sb>:D
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13:32<ert34>http://pastebin.com/d4899307e
13:32<wekt>What should one do when packages are Unverified/Unsigned? or Where is it documented?
13:33<ert34>How do I fix that error messages?
13:34<ert34>What is hald?
13:35<wekt>!tell ert34 about hal
13:35<jthomas_sb>wekt where are you getting the packages from? usually you need to import a key, or just ignore it. if its an official debian package sometimes you just have to wait (in my experience) to get it to be signed.
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13:36<jthomas_sb>note, wekt, that ignoring that is NOT recommended, do it at your own risk. But I've done it.
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13:36<wekt>an official debian mirror. or did you want to know which? Where can the keys be imported from? I'm using the testing repository.
13:36<wekt>I would rather not ignore the message: hence my questions.
13:37<jthomas_sb>wekt try installing debian-archive-keyring and debian-keyring (if you have both)
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13:38<jthomas_sb>(my repos may list more than your repos)
13:38<debian-fr>hey
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13:41<wekt>testing was my target repository. I additionally had unstable and experimental as sources. I removed unstable & experimental. Updated. Now there is no sign of Unsigned packages.
13:41<jthomas_sb>ok cool
13:41<wekt>thanks for the advice about the packages to update. I'll note that.
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13:43<debian-fr>Bonjour
13:43<jthomas_sb>bonjour
13:45<wekt>Avahi
13:46<wekt>maybe I'm the only one to get the joke.
13:46<jthomas_sb>oh. i get it.
13:46<jthomas_sb>;)
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13:55<Zylvain>hello
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13:56<Zylvain>i have some trouble building an initramfs that can provide /dev/mapper/root and ask for a luks passphrase
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13:57<Zylvain>first question: when calling update-initramfs, it rebuilds initrd.img-2.6, but is that an initramfs or an initrd ?
13:57<ert34>Having squeeze main is the same as squeeze sid?
13:57<Zylvain>i though initramfs was inside the kernel...
13:58<ert34>it looks like testing testing and testing testing to me
13:58<Zylvain>ert34: squeeze is the current testing version, but sid is the unstable version
13:58<wekt>ert34: no. testing main and squeeze main are the same and correspond to sid main which is different.
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13:59<Zylvain>ert34: (1) stable = lenny, (2) testing = squeeze, (3) unstable is always sid
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13:59<Zylvain>anyone knows about initramfs ?
14:00<ert34>k
14:01<ert34>How do I log gnome issues?
14:01<ert34>I have a problem on startup.
14:02<ert34>Something goes wrong and gnome display two error messages.
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14:02<Zylvain>ert34: yes everyone has this error messages
14:03<Zylvain>but not everyone has time to take fun understanding why, and fix it...
14:03<ert34>no in console or terminal
14:03<ert34>a windows
14:03<Zylvain>yep
14:03<ert34>two different windows
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14:03<ert34>Zylvain, you are telling that it's a squeeze issue?
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14:05<Zylvain>yes, squeeze issue, this kind of bugs are always fixed a few weeks later
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14:17<chaos_>hi
14:18<chaos_>i'm trying to compile a 2.6.30.5 kernel but after reboot i keep getting this error: [ 0.165302] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
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14:18<chaos_>i'm running out of idas which driver i'm missing so plz help :)
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14:19<ert34>chaos_, why you don't just upgrade to squeeze to have a a 2.6.30 kernel ?
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14:19<blendmaster1024>what's squeeze?
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14:19<blendmaster1024>i've heard the name
14:19<blendmaster1024>but i don't know what it means
14:19<ert34>!squeeze
14:19<dpkg>Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. Expected to be released in early 2010, see http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 Will be known as Debian 6.0.
14:19<chaos_>i want to add some stuff not in the default kernel image
14:21<chaos_>the kernel panick message appears right after the grub menu
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14:46<Bies>Hi all
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14:47<Bies>help
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14:47<disciple>hello
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14:56<wekt>chaos_: are you compiling a new kernel or what?
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15:10<astronut>is lirc broken for anyone else?
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15:36<kircheis>Is there a tool to test hardware ports on my motherboard (RJ11 in particular)?
15:37<ranix>kircheis: how do you expect to test an rj11 port
15:38<ranix>it's directly connected to your modem, yes?
15:38<ranix>that would be the same as testing the modem
15:39<ranix>it is probably directly passed to a DSP, then on to the southbridge
15:39<kircheis>ranix: I have external cashbox device that works with RJ11. I need to send data to the port (however it's represented in the kernel, but I can't see it in /dev as device)
15:39<ranix>there's just no testing that without using it
15:39<kircheis>ranix: well any way of sending data there will be enough
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15:40<ranix>kircheis: rj11 is just a connector
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15:40<ranix>it's usually used for terminating telephone wires
15:40<ranix>kircheis: you're going to want to find out what actual interface your pos uses
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15:43<ranix>plugging a cash register into a modem is like plugging a telephone into a cash register
15:44<ranix>what are you doing
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15:44<joshua>ranix thats how you hear money talk
15:45<chaos_>wekt: i'm trying to, yes
15:46<chaos_>fetched the source from kernel.org
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15:46<ranix>joshua: ba-dum tish
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15:48<n3lab>re2all
15:48<edbian>Is there a command I can run to check the work load of my network interfaces?
15:48<n3lab>i have some graphic bugs fith nvidia drivers
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15:48<n3lab>howto remove deb nvidia packages?
15:49<ranix>n3lab: dpkg -r?
15:49<n3lab>and has debian linux-restricted-modules-common?
15:49<n3lab>ralph, it not hepls :(
15:50<n3lab>seems there are 2 drivers in system
15:50<adb>ls /usr/src
15:50<n3lab>and nvidia installer says Your driver installation has been altered since it was initially installed; this may happen, for example, if you have since installed the NVIDIA driver through a mechanism other than nvidia-installer
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15:50<n3lab>adb, and?
15:51<adb>remove them
15:51<n3lab>remove what?
15:51<n3lab>all /usr/src?
15:51<n3lab>o_O
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15:51<adb>no the .deb
15:52<n3lab>but its no .deb in /usr/src
15:52<n3lab>and i already remove nim with aptitude purge nvidia-glx
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15:52<n3lab>and what i must to do else?
15:53<adb>try , m-a clean nvidia
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15:53<n3lab>done
15:53<n3lab>and now reinstall driver?
15:53<adb>m-a
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15:53<kardan|>is there an equivalent to nfswatch?
15:53<n3lab>m-a and?
15:54<n3lab>adb, i have nvidia packare from site
15:54<adb>and build the driver ?
15:54<n3lab>oh no
15:54<n3lab>i have package from site
15:55<adb> nvidia packare from site is not suported here
15:55<n3lab>o_O
15:55<n3lab>but i have sid
15:55<adb>even ..
15:55<n3lab>and sid hes no packages in repo
15:55<n3lab>for kernel 30
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15:55<n3lab>hes=has
15:56<adb>is m-a who will made that : vidia-kernel-2.6.30-bpo.1-686_185.18.36-1+2.6.30-6~bpo50+1_i386.deb
15:56<kircheis>ranix: so i shall try to find a device somwehere in /dev and then normaly open it?
15:56<kircheis>?
15:57<n3lab>adb, m-a who runs m-a :(
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15:57<adb>you
15:57<ranix>kircheis: let me explain this in stupid-speak
15:57<ranix>kircheis: you. are. plugging. your. cash. register. into. your. modem.
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15:58<n3lab>ok. so howto completely remove all .deb nvidia drivers?
15:59<n3lab>aptitude purge nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-commons
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15:59<n3lab>and does it all?
15:59<adb>dpkg -l | grep nvidia
15:59<dpkg>ii | grep nvidia 2.2-11 adb's private porn collection
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16:00<DragonM>s/private/public/
16:00<ranix>lol
16:00<n3lab>rc nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686 173.14.09+3+lenny1 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.26
16:00<n3lab>rc
16:00<n3lab>what does mean rc?
16:00<adb>dpkg -P nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686
16:00<dpkg>adb: are you smoking crack?
16:01<adb>dpkg -l | grep nvidia
16:01<dpkg>ii | grep nvidia 3.7-15 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
16:01<adb>oops , sorry
16:01<n3lab>mm
16:01<n3lab>ii nvidia-kernel-source 173.14.09-5 NVIDIA bi
16:01<n3lab>nary kernel module source
16:01<n3lab>ii nvidia-settings 185.18.14-2 Tool for
16:01<n3lab>configuring the NVIDIA graphics dri
16:01<n3lab>ii nvidia-xconfig 1.0+20080522-2 The NVIDI
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16:01<n3lab>i must to remoove it too?
16:02<n3lab>nd then install from nvidia .run ?
16:02<adb>sure
16:02<n3lab>ok
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16:02<n3lab>10x :) i ll goto try
16:02<n3lab>to console :)
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16:08<christoph>hm using '* ^List-Id:.*debian-bsd.lists.debian.org' in procmailrc should just work if the mail has the line 'List-Id: <debian-bsd.lists.debian.org>', right? any idea why it does not match?
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16:14<n3lab>mm. i reinstall but there are still graph bugs
16:14<n3lab>(
16:15<n3lab>where can i see logs?
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16:16<adb> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
16:17<n3lab>strange
16:17<n3lab>no EE
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16:18<n3lab>but there is bug/ when i go with mouse to tray icons - they dissapear and all windows are redrawing
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16:21<n3lab>mm
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16:26<ert34>Alsamixer seems to lose the mute configuration for my Beep control.
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16:26<n3lab>oh. seems bugs are only in icewm
16:26<n3lab>in gnome all works :)
16:26<n3lab>adb, thanks :)
16:28<adb>yw
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16:28<tnks>I'm a bit confused why the pre-compiled 2.6.30 kernel for Debian doesn't have CONFIG_PROC_ACPI_EVENT configured (acpid still needs the deprecated interface)
16:28<tnks>just feels weird to have to compile the kernel just for that one measily option.
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16:42<christoph>hm using '* ^List-Id:.*debian-bsd.lists.debian.org' in procmailrc should just work if the mail has the line 'List-Id: <debian-bsd.lists.debian.org>', right? any idea why it does not match?
16:42<luislyx>hi, i have problem with network card
16:43<|[i||CA>Just curious if theres a way to install Etch packages in Lenny
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16:46<|[i||CA>Im having an issue where we need to forward php4 to a lenny install - any suggestions?
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16:47<s4br3>Hi, would debian with selinux be overkill for a home user with just family members? Or at least, would improve a system as a security measure for the web?
16:49<christoph>|[i||CA: add etch to the sources list with the correct pining could work
16:50<ert34>!ask
16:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:51<|[i||CA>Hi christoph, i've tried but im getting some "interesting" errors
16:51<christoph>s4br3: selinux? probably yes
16:51<christoph>|[i||CA: you can try to compile the source package as well
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16:52<ikkerus>hay
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16:52<seanius>|[i||CA: you're not going to get any support for it so you might as well just compile it from source
16:52<s4br3>christoph, you mean it would be overkill?
16:52<christoph>s4br3: probably (selinux, debian's a good idea)
16:53<luislyx>network bcm5755 in debian
16:53<s4br3>thanks
16:53<Miro>Hello Guys,. Im using Squeeze AMD64, and with 2.6.30-1 kernel. I was thinking, if i recompile the same kernel version that im using, will i have to recompile all drivers?
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16:53<luislyx>christph help me with my network card
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16:54<Miro>or ill have to recompile all things?
16:54<christoph>luislyx: help me with my procmail first
16:55<Miro>Where is the super- abrotman?
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16:56<luislyx>what is you proble
16:56<christoph>luislyx: '* ^List-Id:.*debian-bsd.lists.debian.org' doesn't match mails containing the line 'List-Id: <debian-bsd.lists.debian.org>'
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16:57<luislyx>you use expression regulars
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17:00<joshua>what is squeeze?
17:00<Kalessin>joshua, the codename of the next debian release
17:00<Kalessin>(man google)
17:00<christoph>joshua: a alien in toystory?
17:00<joshua>ahhh that makes sense
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17:01<joshua>sorry i've gotten away from debian and more into ubuntu
17:01<joshua>i know thats like blasphemy here
17:01<stuckey>What will happen when all the names of the toy story characters have been used?
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17:02<christoph>stuckey: the ones from toystory2 will be used
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17:02<christoph>they're so friendly to produce another sequel right now afair :)
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17:03<chaos_>squeeze can also mean a friend with benefits :P
17:04<Miro>Hello Guys,. Im using Squeeze AMD64, and with 2.6.30-1 kernel. I was thinking, if i recompile the same kernel version that im using, will i have to recompile all drivers?
17:04<stuckey>Yes
17:04<Smaffler>i updated my xserver-xorg to the lenny-proposed-updates version and now X won't launch. All I could find out is it says there's no vesa driver or display.
17:04<joshua>what is current stable?
17:04<Miro>Lenny
17:04<stuckey>joshua: lenny
17:04<stuckey>Smaffler: X -configure
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17:04<stuckey>Then try it againm
17:05<Smaffler>stuckey: thanks.
17:05<joshua>thanks
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17:10<chaos_>i'm still looking for some1 who can help me figure out what's missing from my kernel to receive the error message in the next line right after the grub kernel selection page
17:10<chaos_>[ 0.165302] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
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17:13<smaffler>i just tried x -configure and everything flies by. all i can see are the last 11 items of a list...
17:14<stuckey>smaffler: Yep, so now you copy the file it made, in /root/X11/ (I believe) to your /etc/X11/ and test it.
17:14<stuckey>Don't forget to make a back up.
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17:23<Smaffler>when i came in earlier, i forgot to mention that after running x -configure, i followed the instructions at the end (your xorg.conf file is...to test the server, run...") and that my monitor then said "out of range"
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17:24<Smaffler>should I still try backing up the old one, copying the new one in, and restarting x?
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17:26<ayarter>Is there a way in debian to see the number of cpu s installed?
17:26<Kalessin>Hello, I'm seeking help on #542640 (can't use my hp printer)
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17:26<Kalessin>ayarter, cat /proc/cpuinfo
17:27<Kalessin>or open any system monitor
17:27<Kalessin>top, the gnome system monitor
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17:28<ayarter>cat said 2 probed, 1 active
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17:28<Kalessin>what ?
17:28<ayarter>and gnome is saying my cpu is being used 100&
17:29<ayarter>wierd, wierd, wierd
17:29<Kalessin>please past you cat output somewhere
17:30<bja>ayarter: cat /proc/cpuinfo
17:30<ayarter>http://pastebin.com/m6a5a908a
17:30<ayarter>I will be right back, i'm going to remove one cpu
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17:31<Smaffler>hi miguel
17:31<SuperMIguel>hello Smaffler
17:31<SuperMIguel>:)
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17:32<Kalessin>aaw a sparc
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17:34<Smaffler>brb
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17:36<Chubbz>Can someone help me with apt-get dist-upgrade? I keep getting 404's when it tries to retrieve the packages from the repos
17:36<ayarter>does that make any sense to you?
17:36<ayarter>When both were installed, it said my cpu use was 85%, with any one installed it says 2%
17:36<christoph>Chubbz: so is the repos reachable?
17:37<christoph>Chubbz: regular debian mirror?
17:37<Chubbz>christoph: it retrieves some packages, but for others, it throws a 404. I'm using http.us.debain.org/debian sid main contrib non-free as my repo
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17:38<Hideo>yeah about that
17:38<christoph>Chubbz: you've done a aptitude update recently
17:38<christoph>or apt-get doesn't matter
17:39<Chubbz>christoph: ive done apt-get update and apt-get clean all about 20 times
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17:39<ayarter>debian should just auto detect and use both cpus, right?
17:39<christoph>Chubbz: can you paste the output?
17:39<SuperMIguel>!flash
17:39<dpkg>flash is probably frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
17:39<christoph>like paste.debian.net
17:39<SuperMIguel>umm i did this: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer and still no flash :(
17:40<SuperMIguel>i even copied the .co file into my .mozilla/plugin folder and still nothin
17:40<SuperMIguel>any idea?
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17:41<Chubbz>christoph: http://pastebin.com/mfbdd17e
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17:44<christoph>Chubbz: if you did the update there's something fishy
17:44<chaos_>ayarter: i find lshw pretty useful :)
17:45<christoph>Chubbz: like 'smbclient 2:3.4.0-2+b1' should be 2:3.4.0-3 for sid
17:45<Chubbz>christoph: pm?
17:45<christoph>Chubbz: and the older version is already removed from pool
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17:47<Smaffler>what are the terminal commands to copy or rename files?
17:47<adb>SuperMIguel: make sure that user have smth like that /home/$User/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
17:47<SuperMIguel>adb have that :(
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17:48<adb>restart all browsers ..
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17:48<SuperMIguel>adb, did that.. even rebooted system and no go
17:48<chaos_>smaffler cp & mv
17:48<Smaffler>chaos_ thx
17:48<adb>SuperMIguel: reinstall that flash ...
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17:50<SuperMIguel>adb, did it few times and still nothin :(
17:50<SuperMIguel>adb, using amd64 fiy
17:50<SuperMIguel>fyi*
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17:55<Smaffler>alright, all done, everything's good to go. thanks for all your help everyone :)
17:55<ayarter>sorry guys, I had to reboot
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17:56<ayarter>so does anyone know why only one cpu would be active, when I have two installed and cat /proc/cpuinfo scans two?
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17:56<locsmif>ayarter, using a non-SMP kernel?
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17:56<ml|>SuperMIguel: try ... update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so and select the new flash
17:57-!-mode/#debian [+l 403] by debhelper
17:57<ayarter>locsmif:I don't think so.
17:57<locsmif>ayarter, uname -a ?
17:57<ayarter>I m moving from Solaris to linux, so this is an interesting process
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17:58<bzed>ayarter: how do you know that there is only one cpu active?
17:58<ayarter>Linux sunblade 2.6.30-1-sparc64 #1 Sun Aug 16 16:43:25 UTC 2009 sparc GNU/Linux
17:58<ayarter>cat /proc/cpuinfo says two scanned, one active
17:59<ayarter>but I'm most likely doing something wrong
17:59<bzed>ayarter: install a smp kernel
17:59<locsmif>ayarter, yep, no SMP
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17:59<bzed>ayarter: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-sparc64-smp
17:59<SuperMIguel>ml|, got there is only 1 program, /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
17:59<ayarter> allright. I have to use unstable to get my vid card recognixzed. I can install an SMP kernel with unstable, right?
18:00<bzed>ayarter: yes, linux-image-2.6-sparc64-smp should work always
18:00<ayarter>and I just apt-get that?
18:00<bzed>ayarter: btw, which card is in that machine? sounds like I should give my blade1000 a try again
18:00<bzed>ayarter: yes
18:00<ayarter>and that will disable whatever kernel is installed now?
18:00<ayarter>Its an XVR-100, and I have an xvr 1200 around here somewhere.
18:01<ayarter>stupid.pci.domains. lol
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18:01<ayarter>bzed: When I apt-get that do I apt-get install , apt-get upgrade?
18:02<ayarter>sorry, i didn't see you posted that. But after the ionstall, it should disable my kernel?
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18:06<ayarter>allright, the smp kernel is installed. So now I have to reboot, right?
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18:07<ml|>SuperMIguel: flash should be working what does about:plugins say?
18:08<ayarter>well, I guess lets reboot and see.
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18:09<ml|>SuperMIguel: flash should be working what does about:plugins say?
18:10<chaos_>i'm still looking for some1 who can help me figure out what's missing from my kernel to receive the error message in the next line right after the grub kernel selection page
18:10<SuperMIguel>ml|, i just installed flashplayer-mozilla and now its working
18:10<chaos_>[ 0.165302] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
18:10<chaos_>please?
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18:10<chaos_>pretty please?
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18:10<chaos_>with a cherry on top?
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18:12<ayarter>Great! It worked
18:12<ayarter>Folks, you guys have been invaluable making this solaris --> linux transition
18:13<ayarter>and I really appreciate your help here.
18:13<SuperMIguel>something like alsamixer for debian?
18:13<ml|>SuperMIguel: but didn't you have that installed before?
18:13<Hideo>ayarter: to better enhance your linux experience, specifically debian, you should ask dpkg about grounding
18:13<SuperMIguel>ml|, i did, but i guess reinstalling it fixed it :S
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18:14<ml|>ok, glad it's working :)
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18:16<Hideo>haha 386 nicks in the channel
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18:17<twiadpaws>hello everybody
18:17<Hideo>damn~
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18:17<twiadpaws>hello everybody
18:17<Hideo>hi there twiadpaws
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18:18<SuperMIguel>how do i put an alsamixer icon in fluxbox?
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18:19<twiadpaws>i'm having a malfunction with a debian system. errors occur whenever i try to load a library such as libdb-4.6.so (cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory). as this one isn't the only file, is there a method to reinstall all shared libraries so this problem will be fixed?
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18:20<Hideo>twiadpaws: is the package libdb4.6 installed?
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18:22<joyride>saludos
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18:22<twiadpaws>Hideo, all packages that are needed have been installed. the system had been working smoothly. now i've encountered several problems when i try to launch applications.
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18:23<twiadpaws>Hideo, even when i use apt-get to fix the problem, i tells me that it's already installed
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18:24<twiadpaws>it tells me*
18:24<Hideo>twiadpaws: apt-get --reinstall install libdb4.6
18:24<Hideo>or better yet, aptitude
18:24<Hideo>twiadpaws: aptitude reinstall libdb4.6
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18:25<Lenhix>Hi, does anyone here know PCRE?
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18:26<Hideo>!ask
18:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:27<twiadpaws>Hideo, that worked, will lib* do fine to reinstall all shared libraries?
18:28<mangospork>Hey guys. So, I'm having trouble here. I'm running debian obviously, and. I'm trying to get my external to work. It worked before, but anywho. I checked demesg since nothing came up on fdisk -l, other than my internals.
18:28<mangospork>Output of dmesg: http://pastie.org/597188.txt
18:28<Hideo>twiadpaws: I suppose, I have never had to reinstall all libraries so I don't know if there are potential problems or not
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18:28<mangospork>Output of fdisk -l: http://pastie.org/597194.txt
18:29<Lenhix>Hideo: I want to negate a regex in Apache2. Apache 2.2 docs say it supports PCRE. I didn't get help neither in #httpd nor #perl nor #regex, all @ freenode
18:29<mangospork>It should be sdc1, and it's FAT32.
18:29<Lenhix>As it is not an estrict apache-related thing, but about PCRE I'm looking for someone who knows PCRe
18:30<Lenhix>man pcre doesn't give info on switches, just regex sintax
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18:33<Hideo>mangospork: doesn't look like it was able to find a partition on your usb drive
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18:33<mangospork>Anybody got any ideas on my issue?
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18:33<mangospork>Hideo: Eh.
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18:33<Hideo>mangospork: are there partitions on that drive?
18:35<Hideo>erm nvm, I have no idea what's going on there
18:35<mangospork>Hideo: Yes...Though it is FAT32.
18:35<mangospork>Maybe that's the problem?
18:35<mangospork>It worked before.
18:35<mangospork>It just all of a sudden didn't work.
18:35<mangospork>ALL my important data is on there.
18:35<mangospork>:3
18:36<Lenhix>:S
18:36<Hideo>mangospork: maybe try it on another machine
18:36<twiadpaws>Hideo, it's not working, doesn't like the regex i guess
18:37<christoph>twiadpaws: aptitude doesn't do regex afair
18:37<twiadpaws>christoph, oops
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18:39<ml|>twiadpaws: man aptitude
18:39<Hideo>twiadpaws: I honestly don't know about reinstalling all libs, you would probably run into all sorts of dependency problems
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18:39<twiadpaws>Hideo, i already have, trying to use apt-get
18:40<Lenhix>mangospork: so you had all your data on the only partition of your sda and now it doesn't work, right?
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18:40<Hideo>Lenhix: I thought sda was one of his internal drive
18:41<Hideo>mangospork: try the drive on another box?
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18:42<Hideo>mangospork: also is it usb2 capable? If it is only usb1, and your usb1 module isn't loaded, do modprobe uhci-hcd
18:42<ayarter>one last question. Debian sparc is on flash 9. How do I, or can I upgrade to flash 10?
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18:44<Hideo>!adobe flash
18:44<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is <non-free> and cannot be in a stable Debian release because Adobe doesn't provide security support for older versions (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). The easiest way to install flash is with the flashplayer-mozilla package from <debian-multimedia.org>; there is also a flashplugin-nonfree package for sid and backports.org users. Ask me about <dmm> <non-free> <bpo> <flash64beta> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
18:44<ayarter>Is there a sparc package though?
18:45<Hideo>dmm has it I believe
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18:46<Lenhix>mangospork: try mounting it with ntfs-3g (as read only, for safety)... or try testdisk, I used it to revover a partition table from a disk and it can also change the type of partition
18:47<Lenhix>*recover
18:47<ayarter>amazing. Thank you.
18:50<abrotman>i don't think adobe has released 10 for sparc yet
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18:50<ayarter>abrotman:I don't know. They've done it for Solaris, but I'm trying to get away from that
18:51<abrotman>i don't see flash for sparc linux at all
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18:52<ayarter>neither do I.
18:52<ayarter>probably stuck with 9 then :(
18:53<Hideo>ah true, I missed it
18:54<ayarter>I wonder how they even got 9 together
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19:00<blendmaster1024__>is it unavoidable that the repo www.backports.org/debian has an invalid key?
19:00<blendmaster1024__>or could i get a verification key for it
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19:01<mangospork>Lenhix: It's not ntfs though.
19:01<mangospork>Lenhix: It's FAT32.
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19:03<abrotman>blendmaster1024__: the instructions tell you how to setup the key
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19:03<blendmaster1024__>what instructions? i found that repo here: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/flashplugin-nonfree/download
19:04<blendmaster1024__>i wanted to find a repo that has that package, so i searched packages.debian.org
19:04<blendmaster1024__>that's what it found
19:04<blendmaster1024__>so i added that
19:04<blendmaster1024__>and it had a funny error about a key
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19:07<silvering>blendmaster1024__ try this
19:07<silvering>http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Debian5.0.27Lenny.27.3AFlashPlayer10
19:07<blendmaster1024__>well i got the player
19:07<blendmaster1024__>but it was just an unverified package
19:08<kardan|>in the kernel log I see the following: [15864.944646] atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xf8 on isa0060/serio0). [15864.944671] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e078 <keycode>' to make it known.
19:08<mangospork>Lenhix: Actually, after modprob -r thatmodule. Then, modprobed it. And now it comes up in fdisk -l...though. When I mount it. It stops me from hitting any of my KDE stuff. Freaks out. and stops everything...so I had to turn off my external
19:08<blendmaster1024__>kardan|, i have those problems on a computer i set up for someone else a lot
19:08<silvering>i installed it following the link i gave you
19:09<kardan|>i figured out, that this appears when the combination Fn (function key) + F7
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19:09<kardan|>blendmaster1024__: the same for me :)
19:09<blendmaster1024__>i think it means the keyboard has unusual keycodes
19:09<blendmaster1024__>for some of it's keys
19:10<kardan|>Fn F7 is usually used to switch the VGA output
19:10<blendmaster1024__>so you need to figure out the normal keynumber or whatever
19:10<blendmaster1024__>and bind it
19:10<kardan|>where are those key bindings defined?
19:10<blendmaster1024__>are you on a laptop?
19:10<kardan|>this is a netbook, yes
19:10<blendmaster1024__>oh, in the kernel somewhere
19:11<blendmaster1024__>..and you're trying to get the screen to display through the vga port?
19:11<blendmaster1024__>use like grandr for that
19:11<bja>!enter
19:11<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
19:11<kardan|>i plugged a tft to vga out, which tells 'no signal input;
19:12<blendmaster1024__>bja: that for me?
19:12<bja>take a wild gues
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19:13<user1234567890>anyone out there?
19:13<bja>!ask
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19:13<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
19:13<kardan|>thanks anyway blendmaster1024__, I will search the net a bit about it
19:13<blendmaster1024__>*sigh* i just told you what's wrong...
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19:14<kardan|>so you need to figure out the normal keynumber or whatever <= what do you mean with this? i got the keycode from the logs and know which keys are pressed
19:15<user1234567890>just wondering if anyone can recommend any technical training courses and/or training providers, anywhere in the world, that are unix/linux/cisco/that kind of thing.
19:15<user1234567890>basically, what certifications/courses are actually worth doing?
19:16<Yonut27>Is there anyway to change the setting for the volume shortcut in linux? When I set a key, it seems to jump about 5 or 6 notches, and I would like to lower it to around 3. running Lenny 2.6.26-2-686.
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19:17<blendmaster1024__>lenny what version of debian though Yonut27?
19:17<blendmaster1024__>lenny 501, 502, 502a?
19:17<Yonut27>dunno
19:17<Yonut27>lol
19:17<Yonut27>how do i find that
19:17<blendmaster1024__>though i think they probably are the same on that matter
19:17<christoph>cat /etc/debianversion
19:18<Yonut27>no such file
19:18<christoph>cat /etc/debian_version
19:18<Yonut27>5.0.2
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19:19<blendmaster1024__>ok then...
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19:19<Yonut27>I set the keys through metacity, so I assume that is what I have to change
19:19<Yonut27>the settings in
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19:19<blendmaster1024__>what keys was the shortcut originally?
19:20<Yonut27>dunno
19:20<Yonut27>they were the volmue up/down/mute
19:20<Yonut27>volume
19:20<blendmaster1024__>where did you set it?
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19:21<Yonut27>system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
19:21<Yonut27>from menu on desktop
19:22<blendmaster1024__>hmm
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19:22<blendmaster1024__>well, maybe you could use a different program to do it
19:22<Yonut27>well I have a script that works with alsa which is what I have, but I can't set a shortcut key to a script, or atleast can't find how to do it
19:22<blendmaster1024__>google will help you better than me - google something like "volume up/down shortcut download"
19:23<blendmaster1024__>the download, so that it will find programs
19:23<Yonut27>it is written in perl, and does mute too
19:23<blendmaster1024__>oh
19:23<blendmaster1024__>well then...
19:23<Yonut27>but I need to know how to bind a keyboard key to a script
19:23<blendmaster1024__>there are lots of ways to do that
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19:24<blendmaster1024__>eaisiest one.... dunno
19:24<blendmaster1024__>google it
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19:24<bja>Yonut27: man xmodmap
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19:25<bja>that should give you a point to start
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19:26<Yonut27>ty
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19:26<bja>Yonut27: xev is also a good tool to use
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19:31<mangospork>Lenhix: It's FAT32.
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19:32<kiko>nov sum
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19:38<tcsetattr>xbindkeys is a nice way to create hotkeys, independent of window manager and without a mess of dependencies
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19:41<bja>what is the name of the file you have to make to force fsck to check everything on boot?
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19:42<abrotman>/forcefsck
19:42<ml|>bja: touch /forcefsck or shutdown -rF now
19:42<bja>ml|: thx
19:42<ml|>np
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20:13<bja>How do you broadcast a message to every user on a system?
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20:14<abrotman>wall
20:14<bja>abrotman: thx
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20:16<bja> /clear
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20:27<kardan|>I wonder how this could be solved: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538967
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20:30<kardan|>running "dpkg-reconfigure insserv" it was reported "error: Obsolete conffile /etc/init.d/timidity left behind by package timidity" while timidity is installed but timidity-daemon not
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20:32<usuario19-06>sur101
20:33<usuario14-06>ke tranza!!!!!!
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20:34<kardan|>as written in the bug report, /etc/init.d/timidity is no longer required by timidity but timidity-daemon
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20:35<kardan|>s/required/provided/
20:35<misael>quien vivie
20:35<bja>!es
20:35<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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20:35<Tony>hay alguien
20:36<Tony>??
20:36<misael>si yo
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20:36<Miro>Hey Guys, great news! Im using Lenny AMD64, and after get all working on 2.6.30-1 i downloaded the same source from repository and compiled my own kernel! It worked without problems or drivers installation needs... Thank You all for this!
20:36<usuario10-06>hola
20:36<Miro>(Sorry Squeeze amd64)
20:36<Tony>ke tranza!!!!!!!
20:36<misael>que tal
20:36<Tony>jajaja no ma pero ke onda kien mas esta¿
20:36<Tony>?
20:37<misael>quien eres tony
20:37<misael>?????
20:37<Tony>antonio
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20:37<adb>!ops @132.248.86.51 spam
20:37<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: adb complains about: @132.248.86.51 spam
20:37<misael>a eso
20:37<usuario09-06>algun gay
20:37<misael>tu
20:37<usuario10-06>misael es gay
20:37<Tony>si tu
20:37-!-mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ
20:37<misael>pendejos
20:37-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*@132.248.86.51] by abrotman
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20:38-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
20:38<Miro>But i need help because i want to know, where is my kernel? I want to see how many MB its using on my HD. Thank you very much!
20:38<bja>!es
20:38<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
20:38<abrotman>bja: i don't think they care about debian
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20:38<bja>abrotman: they don't
20:39<adb>they == only one
20:39<bja>adb: probably a company nat
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20:40<Miro>can anyone help?
20:41<arw>Miro: just ask
20:41<Miro>But i need help because i want to know, where is my kernel? I want to see how many MB its using on my HD. Thank you very much!
20:42<bja>df -h
20:42<bja>locate vmlinuz
20:42<Miro>vmlinuz? my kernel is about 2MB so...
20:43<Miro>so what is initrd?
20:43<arw>man initrd
20:43<Miro>ty
20:44<Miro>Hey Guys, great news! Im using Squeeze AMD64, and after get all working on 2.6.30-1 i downloaded the same source from repository and compiled my own kernel! It worked without problems or drivers installation needs... Thank You all for this!
20:44<bja>!win Miro
20:44<adb>!win Miro
20:44<dpkg>Congratulations, Miro! You have won a one way ticket to Gaza!
20:44<dpkg>Congratulations, Miro! You have won the US presidency!
20:44<Miro>thank you
20:44<Miro>:D
20:45<Miro>quit
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20:45<arw>!win arw
20:45<dpkg>Congratulations, arw! You have won a lifetime supply of spam!
20:45<arw>XD
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20:51<arw>!congratulate
20:51<bja>!congratulate arw
20:51<dpkg>Hugs & Puppies arw, you did it!
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20:51<arw>X)
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20:55<Human>Please help: There is a way to have direct rendering on radeonhd?
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20:57<Human>Anyone uses radeonhd?
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20:57<bja>!patience
20:57<dpkg>The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
20:58<kardan|>I need a channel where people tell me, that I am asking silly questions. Where can I find that?
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20:58<abrotman>that's a silly question
20:58<kardan|>abrotman thank you, so I can stay here.
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21:00<Human>^^
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21:03<bja>!qotd0
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21:04<abrotman>dpkg: hi
21:04<dpkg>privet
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21:05<bja>dpkg: qotd0
21:05<dpkg>< hp_omnifook_2000> sry, i'm still windows-dumb
21:10<Human>guys, i need to install new version of radeonhd 1.2.5 and mesa 7.2 or later . Im using squeeze, what may i do?
21:10<Human>may i download from Sid packages?
21:11<arw>Human: ye syou can dotha but carefully and have in mind the relation betwen debian's versions
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21:12<Human>ok
21:12<Human>what package should i install to mesa?
21:13<Human>the name of package
21:14<arw>mesa-utils
21:16<Human>just trade squeeze by sid on sources.list, aptitude update, aptitude install (pkg), trade sid by squeeze again, aptitude update, and will be alright?
21:16<bja>no
21:16<Human>o.o?
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21:17<Human>so, how can i install these packages and still with Squeeze?
21:17<bja>Human: download the package from the website, check dependencies and install them with dpkg -i
21:17<Human>humm
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21:18<bja>Human: if you do as you proposed, you would be left inbetween distros
21:19<arw>Human: sources.list + /etc/apt/preferences priority
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21:19<Human>humm
21:20<arw>no ides?
21:20<arw>s/ ides/idea?
21:20<adb>!pinning
21:20<dpkg>Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead.
21:20<arw>Human: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning
21:20<arw>hahahahaha
21:20<arw>you won
21:21<arw>late for me
21:21<arw>X)
21:21<adb>!win You
21:21<dpkg>Congratulations, You! You have won a lifetime supply of spam!
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21:21<arw>adb: ;)
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21:22<Human>is pinning a good idea
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21:23<abrotman>only if you do it correctly
21:23<Human>humm
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21:25<arw>and be careful
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21:28<adb>if not . you'll end on sid only for a diver, not mention that one may not even works ..
21:31<Human>Invalid record in the preferences file /etc/apt/preferences, no Package header
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21:39<Human>mode: praying for good results
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21:48<Human>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515946 about this bug, its no problem with iceweasel 3.5?
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21:53<n3lab>lalala
21:53<n3lab>are any girls on debian? xD
21:54<abrotman>n3lab: wrong channel
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21:54<n3lab>:)
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21:54<n3lab>ok ok.
21:54<arw>X)
21:54<n3lab>so can anybody advise some radio player for gnome?
21:54<n3lab>:)
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21:55<n3lab>to listen internet radio!
21:55<adb>audacious , vlc
21:55<n3lab>mm
21:55<adb>tunapie
21:55<n3lab>and lighter?
21:55<n3lab>tunapie?
21:55<arw>streamtunner
21:55-!-greg1313 [~greg1313@CPE00222d106684-CM00222d106680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:56<arw>but is not ligther
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21:56<n3lab>mm
21:56<abrotman>rhythmbox ..
21:56<n3lab>:/
21:56<abrotman>if you're already using gnome ... why not?
21:56<n3lab>and very light ligth?
21:56<n3lab>very very xD
21:56<abrotman>you're using gnome ...
21:57<n3lab>mm. i try to get streamtunner :)
21:57<n3lab>it has good screenshots :)
21:58<arw>:-D
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21:59<n3lab>oh. i can't foung it in repos(
21:59<n3lab>oh. err. i found it! :)
22:00<adb>tunapie do radio/tv + sound record
22:02<n3lab>i see) tunapie is good
22:02<n3lab>but it want's player(
22:02<n3lab>wants
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22:06<n3lab>streamtuner wants player too. but it's in gtk
22:06<n3lab>so it's better =P
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22:11<kardan|>how can I install debug symbols for all my installed packages? (I already made it, to add -dbg to all package names, but I cant find a way to ignore the missing)
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22:12<kardan|>--ignore-missing doesnt work, as it means --ignore-fails
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22:15<Human>i have done it all... and resolved some bugs...
22:17-!-mode/#debian [+l 373] by debhelper
22:17<Human>but i haven't see any differences between with or without direct rendering...
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22:17<Human>on radeonhd.
22:19<Human>no difference on glxgears, or on Neverball...
22:19<Human>(but now im using xv on mplayer...
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22:20<kardan|>at least this doesnt seem to be a silly question :)
22:20<Human>:D
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22:23<adb>kardan|: i was'nt seen any question there ..
22:23<climarcio>hi
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22:24<arw>hi
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22:25<kardan|>adb: how can I install debug symbols for all my installed packages?
22:25<adb>running gentoo ?
22:25*kardan| will think about that later
22:26<adb>-dbg
22:26<Human>whats the difference between radeonhd with and without direct rendering?
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22:26<adb>!dri
22:26<dpkg>rumour has it, dri is Direct Rendering Infrastructure, included in X. see http://dri.sourceforge.net or #dri, or read the outut of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo if your X log looks ok
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22:27<Human>humm, anyone knows how check if i have linux-firmware?
22:27<Human>(that appears to be needed for radeonhd direct rendering)
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22:28<adb>ls /lib/firmware
22:28<kardan|>this is what a have so far: apt-get -m install `cat /var/lib/apt/extended_states|perl -e 'while(<STDIN>){print if(s/Package: (.+)(-dbg)?$/\1-dbg/)}'`
22:29<Human>i have radeon on this
22:29<Human>so may it be ok..
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22:34<kardan|>the ubuntu way: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-July/019196.html
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22:48<Nahual>register Slet4@s4
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23:13<SuperMIguel>anyone having issues with pidgin giving a Invalid certificate authority signature error?
23:13<bighornram>I'm all of a sudden getting "unknown error (0) under Tracker Responded in the info section of some of my torrents. Has anyone had this happen and is it a problem with transmission?
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23:34<blunted>how do i change my clock to the right time
23:34<blunted>i did dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and put it on new york
23:34<blunted>but its still wrong
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23:35<blunted>says its 3:28pm
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23:40<jidm>hi all. I have an hp laptop, and it came with a "lock/unlock trackpad" button. This button is not working since i installed debian on it. The rest of special buttons work fine (suspend, sound, screen brightness, etc). Any way to make this button work?
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23:41<jidm>im not good with english so its complicated for me to google this. Also would be helpful if you tell me the proper name of that button. It's located above the trackpad.
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23:44<jidm>or if there is any way to "read" the key (maybe its the same than pressing, for example, "cmd + k". Any way to see the keyboard log?
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