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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-09-01

---Logopened Tue Sep 01 00:00:37 2009
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00:03<Gun_Smoke>anyone know what the k in kFreeBSD represents?
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00:05<olasd>Gun_Smoke: I guess it's for "kernel"
00:05<Gun_Smoke>Would make sense.
00:05<olasd>as Debian/kFreeBSD is a FreeBSD kernel with a Debian userspace
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01:52<Dez>I've just installed debian 'etch' and trying to do 'apt-get update' but I keep getting a failed message, can anybody help?
01:54<jmarsden>Dez: Try another mirror, and tell the channel the exact error message (if it is just one line, use pastebin if the error message is several lines long)
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01:54<jmarsden>Dez: BTW, is there a reason you are not installing Lenny instead of Etch?
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01:54<Dez>Err ftp://ftp.au.debian.org etch/main Packages
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01:54<Dez> Unable to fetch file, server said '/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 150.203.164.37 21]
01:55<Dez>jmarsden: I've tried another mirror but got an error there too
01:55<jmarsden>Dez: Do you have working Internet connectivity from that machine? Including FTP access?
01:55<Dez>Yes
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01:56<jmarsden>Then it sounds like the mirrors concerned no longer carry etch... hmmm.
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01:57<Dez>I checked the mirror via FTP in firefox and I can see the files there
01:57<Dez>from the debian box I was also able to do: wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz
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01:59<jmarsden>I'm not sure, but maybe apt-get is doing active FTP and Firefox is doing passive FTP, and you are behind a router doing NAT?
01:59<Catch-22>Should it be "ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian etch/main"?
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02:00<jmarsden>Ah, so the issue is a config problem in sources.list. Good catch, Catch-22 :)
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02:00<Catch-22>Thanks. :)
02:01<Dez>So.. deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/ etch main
02:01<Dez>deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/ etch main
02:01<Dez>how do I need to change that?
02:01<jmarsden>Dez: edit those to add debian/ to the end of the URLs
02:02<jmarsden>deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ etch main and so forth.
02:02<Dez>ahh, genious - that appears to be working
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02:03*Dez slaps forehead and exclaims: doh :(
02:03<Dez>thanks for your help guys all working now :)
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02:03<jmarsden>Good :)
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02:20<Guest970>sure that works
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03:24<IcemanX>Hello, I use ftpcopy for automatic filetransfers via bash script, since few days ftpcopy get on each call an error: ftpcopy[300]: segfault at 0 rip 411137 rsp 7fffcedff4e8 error 4
03:24<IcemanX>Do somebody know this problem
03:25<IcemanX>Or maybe exist a replacement for this tool
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03:31<Catch-22>curl, maybe?
03:32<IcemanX>how to do with curl ftp?
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03:34<IcemanX>Oh great, right curl can do ftp, man curl ;-)
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03:34<bozz>using an url i guess? like ftp://user@url/path
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03:43<IcemanX>do you know how to transfer only new files with curl
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05:07<mejo>hey
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05:09<mejo>my gnome-screensaver starts while watching movies with vlc in debian/unstable. that didn't happen some months ago.
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05:14<bozz>mejo, there s an option in vlc to prevent screensaver to pop while using it
05:14<djj>mejo: check vlc's preferences > video, is "disable screensaver" ticked?
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05:18<d>mmh flash is not working in iceweasel, testing, mozilla-flashplayer
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05:22<d>any suggestions?
05:22<d>and how to upgrade to grub2?
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05:31<d>mmh upgrade to grub2, now I can't see winxp in grub
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05:34<Charbb>hi
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05:36<anton>d, is your windows disk your first disk (in bios boot order)?
05:36<Charbb>where do you find multimedia for debian?
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05:37<anton>Charbb, do you mean media players?
05:37<d>anton: yes, maybe a fix is here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=544064
05:37<anton>d: you need to use grub2 from sid (i think) - there is not ability to map the disks in earlier grub2 (just did that last night on my jaunty install)
05:37<Charbb>media format support
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05:37<mejo>bozz, dijj: yes, 'disable screensaver' is activated in vlc's preferences
05:38<anton>Charbb, try debian-multimedia.org for the most codecs
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05:38<Charbb>tnxs
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05:38<d>anton: installed os-prober and hit update-grub, things looks ok now
05:38<d>will try reboot
05:39<mejo>bozz, dijj: i guess it's bug #536615
05:39<anton>d, that bug *might* be related - but I found that because windows was not on my first disk grub couldnt map the disk
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05:39<anton>if your windows is on the first disk then with os-prober it should work (though I think os-prober might be merged into grub in newer versions, as my grub2 had a script in /etc/grub/ for detecting windows installs and setting the boot config)
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05:43<d>anton: fixed
05:43<d>only have no flash yet
05:43<d>on testing
05:43<d>mozilla-flash installed
05:43<wekt>Judging by the lack of bugs in package 'upstart', it looks ready to replace SysV init.
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05:45<anton>wekt, cool
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05:56<d>flash doesn't work, the mozila and non-free version not on testing
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06:13<jmaina>hey Guys i have noticed that Debian doesnt have really good graphic support for Dell Laptops... i had to use the vesa default...
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06:14<jmaina>anyone know how to install the driver for ati graphic cards
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06:23<dpkg>To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon> and <radeonhd>. See also <radeon vs radeonhd>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net).
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06:28<kevin_>www.dell.com
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06:33<mbruins>spambot for dell? ^^
06:33<Getty>yeah, i also was thinking deeper about this
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06:34<Getty>i suggest its just a fan
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06:34<mbruins>possible or just a "weird" mistake ;x
06:34<Getty>that the "helpful bot" of dell does some spam by accident? ;)
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06:43<kapal>Hi, I have two lenny-boxes connected with ethernet, on both i have apt-get install'ed heartbeat-2, the shared resource is ip address, i got fail-over configured and working, but i can't disable auto fail-back (tried auto_failback off, but isnt working). Is it a bug, or am I doing sth wrong? any tip appreciated...
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07:14<Darkknow>Bonjour :)
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07:47<amul1>hi to all, i am having idVendor=1162, idProduct=0322 secugen hamster plus device.but it is not working in lenny with SDK kit
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07:48<amul1>i am getting error as OpenDevice returned : [61]
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07:50<amul1>is there any way to convert .so file to source?
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08:14<bigeasy>amul1: objdump -dr file.so
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08:24<xeon-enouf>judd: pciid 1162:0322
08:24<judd>xeon-enouf: [1162:0322] is 'Unknown device' from 'OA Laboratory Co Ltd' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1162:0322
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08:25<hbomb>Can anyone assist me in compiling the SIS drivers from the Winischoffer page? http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsispart4.shtml#download I think that I need the Premium version to allow for an external monitor, only source is available
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08:27<InkBottle>Hi, I just removed kde. What would be "gnome-minimal"?
08:27<hbomb>eew
08:27<hbomb>;)
08:27<InkBottle>I mean really minimal
08:27<gsimmons>xeon-enouf: It's a USB device.
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08:31<am>bigeasy, objdump shows output in assmebly not in c ..
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08:33<ml|>dpkg: install gnome
08:33<dpkg>To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
08:33<InkBottle>thanks ml
08:33<ml|>InkBottle: ^^
08:33<ml|>np
08:33<hbomb>Would anyone assist me with compiling SIS drivers from the Winischofer page? Debian Testing, KDE 4.2. My errors are at http://pastebin.com/f1bdd9466 using the "Premium Driver" source at http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsispart4.shtml#download
08:34<xeon-enouf>gsimmons: aye
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08:41<bigeasy>am: you don't get C. assembly is the only information stored in .so
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09:07<levan>hi guys, what's the command for reconfigring X please?
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09:09<levan>exit
09:09<levan>clear
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09:10<levan>Does anyone know the command to reconfigure X via dpkg?
09:10<koollman>levan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or something similar
09:11<levan>koollman: thanks man
09:11<ml|>dpkg: xorg config
09:12<dpkg>From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Things like resolution are configured by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. As a result, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often mostly blank but you can feed xorg settings using it still. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout and use "X -configure" as a template for your handwritten xorg.conf.
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09:14<levan>and how do I restart gdm?
09:14<levan>I switched monitors and cant start X
09:16<ml|> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
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09:17<jackyf>invoke-rc.d gdm restart
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09:48<laurie>Hello...I was wondering if anybody knew how to get an older version of Debian, Debian Lenny 5.0.0 - i386. I can only find the new version 5.0.2
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09:50<noflash>laurie, try http://archive.debian.org/
09:50<valdyn>laurie: why would anyone want that older version?
09:51<valdyn>laurie: 5.0.2 is only 5.0.0 plus some bugfixes
09:51<laurie>simply because my DVD no 1 has gone bad and would like to replace it
09:51<valdyn>laurie: then get the 5.0.2 dvd
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09:52<laurie>If I mix files from 5.0.0 with files from 5.0.2 - will this not create problems?
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10:01<wekt>Where is the -dbg package or equivalent for synaptic? I want to help debug its crashes.
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10:07<ml|>wekt: try running it from a terminal and when crashes look at the output
10:07<stuckey_>I just opened vimtutor but all it gave me was vim...
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10:09<ml|>stuckey_: you have vimtutor installed?
10:09<wekt>stuckey_: if you don't know vim, I think you do not want to learn it.
10:09<bja>vimtutor is a file with instructions you have to edit with vim, hands on experience :-)
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10:09<ml|>right
10:10<wekt>stuckey: nano is always installed. I suggest you take a look. or at jed or emacs or ....
10:11<wekt>If you run 'editor' it will run whatever editor is chosen on your system.
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10:13<frank_>quit
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10:14<ml|>duh, for some reason i thought vimtutor was a separate package, and to change the default editor do as root, update-alternatives --config editor
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10:18<xsteak>gil, hey man! how are u?
10:20<gil>xsteak, fine and you
10:20<gil>hehehe
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10:21<xsteak>gil, very well... doidao rulez! ;)
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10:21<xsteak>and the fai's installation?
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10:22<DoiDao>hardcore rsrsrs
10:22<xsteak>cool... haha
10:22<DoiDao>xsteak, i need my virtual P C
10:22<DoiDao>delete please xp virual
10:23<DoiDao>ops, no virus XP .. is a virtual XP
10:23<xsteak>virtual xp? i have fear...
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10:23<xsteak>i prefer my debian instalation... hehe
10:24<DoiDao>and me two fair ...
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10:24<xsteak>haha
10:24<DoiDao>xsteak, but is a test
10:24*ml| points to #debian-offtopic
10:25<xsteak>DoiDao, the virtual xp is a fai's test?
10:26<bja>dpkg: tell xsteak about ot
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10:26<DoiDao>nopz, the virtual xp is a VPN server test
10:26<xsteak>bja, what?
10:27<ml|>!ot
10:27<dpkg>Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions.
10:27<xsteak>DoiDao, hmm... ok... cool...
10:28<xsteak>bja, ok, sorry...
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10:51*arw hello folks
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10:52<stuckey>Why does vim want me to help poor children in Uganda?
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10:53<cahoot>they need it?
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10:53<stuckey>I could use a little money too, maybe they'll put my name on there.
10:54<cahoot>a line you didn't really wanted to post
10:54<hajduk>հոս հայ կա՞յ
10:55<hajduk>how can i install fonts?
10:56<cahoot>http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/uganda.html
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10:57<dr|z3d>!fonts
10:57<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html, or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt, or http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/20050425novalis Ask me about <install font>.
10:58<hajduk>thanx
10:58<dr|z3d>!tell hajduk about install fonts
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11:08<Algdusk>hi , i have problem, i had a shared network printer that i was using ok to print from my ubuntu to a windows machine no problem. But i had to remove it from the printer devices. now i want to set it up again using the printer wizard in ubuntu, but it shows me a list of things where i have to put host and i dont know how to use that.
11:09<idbgthusiexist>is the iptables filter dstlimit available on debian?
11:09<ml|>Algdusk: like before ask in #ubuntu on freenode, please
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11:15<dr|z3d>!ubuntu
11:15<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
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11:19<hajduk>how can i ask dpkg about <install font>?
11:19<hajduk>!install font
11:19<dpkg>To install fonts for just one user, copy then into ~/.fonts/ and then run fc-cache -fv (or ask me about <kfontinst>). To install them system-wide, copy them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts or into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts (but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf) and run fc-cache -fv as root.
11:19<bja>hajduk: /msg dpkg install font
11:19<ml|>hajduk: /msg dpkg selftell
11:19<hajduk>ok thanks
11:20<hajduk>i get
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11:30<hajduk>how to run fc-cache -fv
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11:31<hajduk>?
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11:32<cahoot>IIRC cyou want dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
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11:42<rufsketch>when installing sidux to usb using /usr/sbin/fll-iso2usb -D /dev/sdb1 -n -I '/home/rufsketch/Desktop/sidux-2008-03-ourea-kde-lite-i386-200809221818.iso' -- lang=en vga=788
11:42<Torsten_W>rufsketch, wrong channel
11:43<bja>!sidux
11:43<dpkg>rumour has it, sidux is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid, with a special focus on clean and easy hard disk installation. It is <OT> in #debian. Please /join #sidux on irc.oftc.net.
11:43<rufsketch>ah, sorry
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11:43<rufsketch>i had it set to auto connect
11:43<rufsketch>goodbye debian!
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11:51<hajduk>hay ka stegh?
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11:53<MaNU>hi
11:53<hajduk>hi
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12:12<stevem_>Lo, I'm trying to use unetbootin boot into the 'rescue' mode of debian
12:12<stevem_>I get the unetbootin grub up, and press tab and change installgui for rescue... but it just boots up as installgui anyway
12:12<stevem_>Am I missing something?
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12:15<Piet>is it normal that there is so much bad? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html
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12:47<xeon-enouf>stevem_: /msg dpkg rescue mode (hint; forget about unetbootin)
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12:47<stevem_>yeah I know I can use a CD but it won't recognize the cd drive
12:47<stevem_>I've used SystemRescueCD in the end
12:48<xeon-enouf>stevem_: try this; generic.all_generic_ide=1
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12:48<xeon-enouf>stevem_: or libata.atapi_enabled=1
12:48<xeon-enouf>yeah sysresccd.org is a winner, afaict
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12:49<stevem_>well it's over now
12:49<stevem_>a customers server wouldn't boot, filesystem issues, needed fsck
12:49<murder>After upgrading from 2.6.30.4-grsec to 2.6.30.5-grsec I get the following while trying to send mail: sendmail: fatal: inet_addr_local[getifaddrs]: getifaddrs: Operation not permitted
12:49<murder>Any ideas?
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12:50<ml|>stevem_: /msg dpkg grml for future needs
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13:13<phile>test
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13:18<stuckey>fail
13:19<asaleem>I have file starting from 000 - 3000. I want to move 030 to 060 into another dir. How do I do that?
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13:19<asaleem>I tried mv [030-060]* ../test but it copies 000 to 099
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13:22<Yoda-BZH>you can do: for i in $(seq 30 60); do mv -v "0$i" ../test/; done
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13:22<chealer>asaleem: I assume you use bash, right?
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13:30<Yoda-BZH>or : for i in $(seq 30 60); do mv -v $(printf %03d $i) ../test/; done
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13:52<xeon-enouf>you really should be testing with cp (or even echo), not mv
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14:23<jidm>hi. what is the best way to share files and folders between 2 debian computers? (both on the same LAN)
14:24<dr|z3d>jidm: ftp works good, or scp.
14:24<dr|z3d>Or you could use samba.
14:24<dr|z3d>Depends what you mean by share.
14:24<dr|z3d>!samba
14:24<dpkg>Samba is a UNIX implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). Documentation resources: http://samba.org/samba/docs/ ("Using Samba, 3rd Edition" not yet available online), http://wiki.samba.org/ Backported Samba 3.3.4 packages for Lenny are available, ask me about <backports.org>. http://samba.org/samba/docs/FAQ/ http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Category:Category_FAQ http://samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net.
14:25<Yoda-BZH>nfs
14:25<jidm>dr|z3d there is a samba for only linux? (don't have any windows pc here) or the best is going trough samba?
14:25<phrosty>lol, scp for a general file share? madness..
14:26*dr|z3d smirks at phrosty.
14:26<ml|>if you want to keep stuff in sync rsync is great
14:26<jidm>i mean o know samba is good for sharing with both win and linux, but is there something for just linux? or it is ok to going with samba?
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14:26<cahoot>jidm: nfs as suggested?
14:26<dr|z3d>samba's fine for just linux. No Windows necessary.
14:27<ml|>samba is slow if you want speed it's not the best
14:27<dr|z3d>Nfs might be better, though; haven't much experience there.
14:27<jidm>cahoot thanks i didn't read Yoda0s suggestion, :P
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14:27<ml|>tho, nfs can be a pain
14:28<jidm>thank you people, you are the best
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14:29<ml|>ftp would be the fastest to setp up, i would think
14:29<ml|>and good performance
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14:34<wekt>KDE & I think Gnome have little share apps, but I haven't used them. SCP is more convenient than ftp, i find. NFSv3 over UDP or NFS4 over TCP (UDP is unavailable) for normal filesystems.
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14:36<jidm>i was asking mainly because i want to sync gnome preferences between both using conduit, but computers don't seem to "see" each other on the software
14:37<jidm>i must say it's my first try using conduit
14:37<ml|>rsync :)
14:37<wekt>then there are the cluster type filesystems. Intermezzo, Global File System, OCFS, ... that other one from CMU I think. FSP is efficient but more for long distances like public servers. netsend or for multiple destinations, UDPCast.
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14:39<jidm>m1|: sounds good
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15:07<stuckey>judd: versions vi
15:07<judd>stuckey: vi --
15:07<stuckey>there is only vim and no vi?
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15:09<bremner>is there something like doxygen but a bit more lightweight?
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15:09<bremner>and with more features than cat
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15:12<stuckey>How do I get syntax highlighting in vim?
15:12<stuckey>It says it isn't available in my version.
15:12<ml|>!vim
15:12<dpkg>[vim] Vi IMproved, an enhanced <vi> editor. Extremely popular clone with syntax highlighting and graphical X interface available. 'vim-tiny' no longer installs vim <alternatives> as of 2:7.2.049-1 (Debian bug #529977). See also <vim syntax highlighting> and <colored pager>. http://www.vim.org/ http://vim.wikia.com/ #vim on irc.freenode.net.
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15:13<stuckey>That didn't help
15:14<tofix>hi all , i would like to make proxy smtp (for a futur greylistner ) with postfix, but i do not have the good way to handle it. How could i create
15:14<stuckey>So there's no vi anymore? Just vim?
15:14<tofix>stuckey : apt-get install vim ...
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15:15<stuckey>tofix: thanks
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15:15<tofix>stuckey : Once inside the soft :syntax on
15:16<ml|>:he syntax in vim
15:17<tofix>So, How could i create a psmtp server with postfix that deliver mail to another server in the same lan ?
15:17<tofix>do i have to handle relayhost directive ?
15:18<ml|>stuckey: look into csapprox at the vim sites above
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15:19<Tekla>hi
15:19<Tekla>i have a nice vision of my email setup but i don't even know where to begin realizing it :)
15:20<Tekla>who can help plz?
15:20<ml|>!ask
15:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:21<Tekla>i imaging using exim to send mail, fetchmail to download from various pop3 accounts and i would like to put all these in a IMAP server i can access from my linux box or my NATted other pcs
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15:21<Tekla>i think my exim config is ok and i have the fetchmailrc from my old install but there was no IMAP then
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15:22<Tekla>ml|: well i assume not every1 is skilled at everything equally so i thought i'd concentrate on some1 willing & able :)
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15:23<ml|>Tekla: usually if someone is they will answer ;)
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15:24<ml|>plus possibly you will get more responces/ideas
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15:24<jmaslibre>hello, wich module is in charge of /proc/acpi/button/lid/C20C/state ?
15:25<jmaslibre>It stop working :(
15:26<jmaslibre>(closing the laptop) (the lid button)
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15:47<cesurasean>can someone tell me why phpmyadmin is not prompting for login, and is trying to login automatically to a "root" user?
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15:48<rudi_s>cesurasean: Change config.php. (or was it config.inc.php)
15:49<cesurasean>yes, I know that.
15:49<cesurasean>what do I change in the config, though? ;)
15:49<rudi_s>cesurasean: The username and password.
15:49<cesurasean>I've tried removing the username and password lines, and it still gives same error....
15:49<cesurasean>and I don't want to enter my root password to give access to phpmyadmin
15:50<cesurasean>I don't understand why they changed this anyways.....
15:50<rudi_s>cesurasean: It should be described in the config file, but I don't know the exact procedure.
15:51<cesurasean>//$cfg['Servers'][$i]['auth_type'] = 'cookie'; // Authentication method (config, http or cookie based)?
15:51<cesurasean>//$cfg['Servers'][$i]['user'] = ''; // MySQL user
15:51<cesurasean>//$cfg['Servers'][$i]['password'] = ''; // MySQL password (only needed
15:51<cesurasean>// // with 'config' auth_type)
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15:51<cesurasean>I believe it's a bug with phpmyadmin. not sure....
15:52<cesurasean>im not even putting a user of root in, and it's trying to login to root. lol
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15:52<cesurasean>I know it's fixable, I've done it before, but don't know the procedure either....
15:52<cesurasean>and I can't find it on google.
15:52<cesurasean>I think what I did was, used an OLDER config file for phpmyadmin.....
15:53<cesurasean>there should be an easier way though!
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16:01<cesurasean>DOES ANYONE HAVE A PHPMYADMIN WHO ASKS FOR LOGIN/PASSWORD VIA THE WEB BROWSER??
16:01<cesurasean>if so, can you please help me out?
16:01<cesurasean>what are YOU doing, that I'm not. ;)
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16:04<oznt>hi people, do other people in the USA encounter problems accessing gmail at the moment ?
16:05<ga_bash>hello .. guys anyone can help me with open_office here?
16:05<oznt>ga_bash, be specific
16:05<oznt>ga_bash, what's the problem?
16:05<ga_bash>oznt, how to create a new page in open office?
16:06<ml|>oznt: gmail is down for alot of people atm
16:06<oznt>ml|, thanks, very annoying but will survive :-)
16:06<ga_bash>ml|, yeah its down. yes
16:07<Yoda-BZH>http://www.google.com/appsstatus
16:07<ga_bash>maybe someone hacked it..
16:07<ml|>i doubt that, but you never know
16:07<ml|>Yoda-BZH: thanks for the link
16:08<cesurasean>can anyone help me with phpmyadmin? :(
16:08<tofix>hey guys, with postfix, i don't want to deliver nothing locally but would prefer to transmit every incoming mails to another mail server in the same LAN , what should i do
16:08<oznt>ga_bash, you just type until you get new page. you can type enters for new lines and the you get an empty page
16:08<oznt>ga_bash, what kind of document are trying to create ?
16:08<tofix>i would like to have a simple smtp proxy with postifx
16:09<ga_bash>oznt, I am creating a document that comprises different shapes
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16:09<ga_bash>oznt, so after reaching the end of it. I am not directed to a new page.
16:09<Yoda-BZH>ml| 'welcome
16:10<oznt>shapes from the drawer ? But in general what are you creating a simple letter or are you trying to write your master thesis :-)
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16:11<ga_bash>oznt, lol i m creating a damn flowchart for piece of code I have written .. not so good at drawing :(
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16:12<tofix>i just have this kind of logs : "Recipient address rejected ", sure because the MDA is link to another MTA (Groupwise) in the same LAN , and i just would like that another server (postfix) proxy incoming mail to a second MTA (Antispam barracuda ...) that deliver to the GroupWise server .
16:12<oznt>well, if that's the case, just use inkscape for creating your flow chart. Save it as png via export, and that's it.
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16:12<oznt>Much simpler then oowriter+oodraw, imho
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16:13<ga_bash>oznt, wats inkscape?
16:13<tofix>The postfix accept incoming mails, but just loose himself trying to deliver . which directive of postfix could permit me to redirect mail to another server
16:13<tofix>?
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16:14<oznt>ga_bash, it's a vector graphics software, you can apt-get install inkscape (assuming you are using debian, and can have root permisions)
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16:15<cesurasean>http://www.seanbrady.us/phpMyAdmin/ - can someone tell me why phpmyadmin isn't prompting for a username/password??
16:15<ml|>!wait
16:15<dpkg>If noone has answered your question to your satisfaction, please wait 10 minutes before asking again. Please don't whine about your problem, about the channel, about Debian, Linux, or anything else. Just wait 10 minutes and then ask again. Ask me about <repeat> and <ask>.
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16:16<ga_bash>oznt, thanks I will try that. :)
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16:16<ga_bash>oznt, but even that has got only one page lol :(:(
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16:17<kop>tofix: There's always the /etc/aliases file (or whatever) but that seems a strange problem.
16:17<ml|>oh, well meant repeat
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16:17<oznt>yes, but define a large page, and put all your flow chart in one page. A flow chart which has multiple pages is very hard to follow, imho
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16:18<kop>There's also dia, which is designed for diagramming. (like visio) But it's a bit specialized and feels annoying, although I've not found anything better.
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16:21<tofix>kop : maybe i'm not clear . i have a mail server hide behind an Antispam appliance Barracuda that doesn't provide greylist functionnality, so i created another server that first was a spey (greylisting dedicaced smtp greylistener proxy) but because of number of incoming mails i was oblige to think about using postgrey , so i made a postfix server , handle all the destination domains possible by my dns zone , but i would like to see this server forwarding inc
16:21<tofix>oming mails without any modifications to the dedicaed antispam
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16:24<kop>tofix: (I like sqlgrey, with a postfix backend.) ...
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16:25<tofix>kop : tell me how , sqlgrey is an hook of postfix ?
16:25<kop>tofix: relayhost is what you want.
16:25<kop>tofix: sqlgrey is a debian package. Read the readme in /usr/share/doc/sqlgrey...
16:26<kop>tofix: It hooks into postfix.
16:27<tofix>and if this postfix wasn't the end server , how you deliver the mails to the one , in the same LAN, that could communicate with MDA ?
16:27<kop>tofix: relayhost
16:28<kop>tofix: It's in /etc/postfix/main.cf
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16:29<tofix>kop : oki , but i handle it from the begining and nothing changed ... (
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16:29<tofix>kop : i 'll try to find my scenario in sqlgrey
16:29<tofix>kop : thanks
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16:42<cesurasean>does anyone else here have phpmyadmin installed?
16:44<nosklo>cesurasean: wrong quesiton
16:44<nosklo>question
16:44<ml|>cesurasean: just ask your question again
16:44<ml|>!ask
16:44<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:48<erico>msg<erico>Olá
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16:49<erico>fd
16:50<erico>msg <erico>Olá"
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16:51<cesurasean>does anyone have a default debian lenny install of phpmyadmin that's not prompting for a password?
16:51<cesurasean>www.seanbrady.us/phpMyAdmin
16:52<cesurasean>#1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
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16:52<blendmaster1024>i have a problem: i want to use vmware on lenny, but it wants kernel headers to compile it's module, and for some reason, it doesn't accept lenny's kernel headers
16:52<blendmaster1024>anyone heard of anything similar, and how it was fixed?
16:53<toobaz>blendmaster1024: in which sense "it doesn't accept"?
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16:54<blendmaster1024>vmware pops up a dialog first asking for gcc 4.1's path, which i gave it, then it asks for the path to the kernel headers, and when i give it the path, it just pops up the box again.
16:55<toobaz>blendmaster1024: ...which are the same version as returned by uname -a?
16:55<blendmaster1024>yep
16:56<toobaz>blendmaster1024: mmh... sorry, I personally don't know (never used vmware)
16:56<blendmaster1024>i had similar problems when i tried to compile alsa
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16:57<blendmaster1024>i eventually succeeded, but i had to recompile the kernel to get it to work, and this was on a different machine, so i chose kernel options that won't work for what i'm on now
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16:58<ml|>maybe try with backports kernel
16:58<ml|>judd: kernel
16:58<judd>ml|: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.31-rc6-686 (2.6.31~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.14160); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-6); squeeze: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-5); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 (2.6.30-6~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-17); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24)
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16:58<blendmaster1024>hmm.... i think it needs to be older, not newer
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17:00<Bimbo>exists a free tool, so I can record a stream from a television channel. vlc I have tried but this doesn't work. The files on this tv channels and up as "asf" files-
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17:02<cesurasean>I finally found the solution to my problem.
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17:03<cesurasean>I reverted to the sample config file of phpmyadmin, and it's working better than the one Debian installs. :(
17:03<cesurasean>how do I file a bug report?
17:04<ml|>cesurasean: /msg dpkg reportbug
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17:16<netzwurm>hm. my update-boostsequence-insserv refuses to work because i removed autofs from the boot-order.
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17:16<Athunye>Hello. I installed apache2 but /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty. Any ideas ?
17:17<netzwurm>how do i tell insserv that autofs is not a required system service?
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17:20<oznt>Athunye, this is for extra directives. The rest is under /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
17:21<Athunye>oznt: Okay. Thanks. I was used to something else.
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17:27<tmc>how many people need help with flash, its rediculous
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17:36<dserban>anyone familiar with server boards, lm-sensors, and ipmi ... all mixed and fondled by debian?
17:37<dserban>I've run into a problem, specifically, that sensors-detect provided by lm-sensors suggests that I modprobe ipmisensors in order for it to get sensor information from the board. All well and good, but the module... isn't there, not provided, not available.
17:38<dserban>I've googled until I got a bitter taste, and have come here in the hopes that someone will know what the deal is.
17:38<blood>hi
17:38<blood>anyone knows how do you a IRC proxy with x chat ?
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17:42<ml|>blood: /msg dpkg tor /msg dpkg privoxy
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17:42<blood>ml, i was wondering if i could configure a proxy directly in x chat actually :)
17:43<blood>i already have privoxy and tor :) but only configured for browsing
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17:44<ml|>blood: the tor wiki explains how to configure xchat iirc
17:44<blood>thanks ml
17:45<ml|>np, it's easy sonce you already using tor
17:45<ml|>*since
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17:47<blood>yeah :)
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17:51<blood>ml, i got tor and privoxy, how the hell did i install it if it isnt supported by debian ?
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17:51<blood>i dont remember downloading anything O.O
17:53<ml|>huh?
17:53<blood>nah, actually i must of added some repos ^
17:54<ml|>heh, ok
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17:56<Tekla>if i install courier-imapd to service my users can i switch to a different imapd without losing mail?
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18:03<blood>ml ?
18:04<blood>the wiki tells me to tell x chat to point to tor, but i cant find where do to so in x chat :/
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18:04<Tekla>right click on a channel settings -> preferences?
18:05<Tekla>network -> network setup?
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18:06<ml|>blood: it's clear read it again
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18:06<blood>To use SOCKS directly (for instant messaging, Jabber, IRC, etc), you can point your application directly at Tor (localhost port 9050)
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18:07<mish>Why does "mpt-statusd: detected non-optimal RAID status" not strike me as a happy notification?
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18:08<blood>im sure i saw a menu to configure that, but i cant find it O.O
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18:09<ml|>blood: this seems clear to me ... http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO/IrcSilc?highlight=%28xchat%29
18:09<blood>its clear to me too.
18:10<blood>but i cant find the fucking window. Maybe coz i have x chat for gnome.
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18:11<ml|>when i messed with tor and xchat it was there, but i used just xchat
18:11<blood>wait ill be back on the other one :)
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18:11<ml|>gl
18:11<blood>thanks for the help :p
18:11<blood>ill get it :p
18:11<blood>dont worry.
18:11<ml|>heh, ;P
18:11<ml|>be happy ;)
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18:16<blood>ml ?
18:16<blood>its working, wlel i think
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18:17<blood>ill have to reconnect
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18:18<blood>its working :)
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18:19<ml|>blood: don't think so
18:19<ml|>hostmask is the same as before
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18:51<mish>I have 'copied' the list of packages installed on the old system, I'm trying to install the same set of packages on the new system, only two packages are stopping the install libkadm55 and libkrb5-dev, both have this issue: "Depends: libkrb53 (= 1.4.4-7etch6) but 1.4.4-7etch7 is to be installed"
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18:53<mish>Nevermind, looks like an out of date mirror issue.
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18:57<Athunye>I got things working, but I still cannot access other than one virtualhost (apache2). Any help?
18:58<Athunye>Every vhost I try to access, turns back to the first one I created.
18:58<dr|z3d>Athunye: #apache on freenode.
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19:03<Athunye>dr|z3d: Sorry.
19:04<dr|z3d>No need to apologize.. I'm just pointing you in the direction that gives you best chance of resolving your issue. :)
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19:05<Athunye>dr|z3d: Sure. Actually, I asked here because the docs on httpd.apache.org points to httpd.conf, and I was told that Debian uses apache2.conf.
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19:05<Athunye>The problem is solved now. Thanks anyway.
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19:07<argonel>what's up with snapshot?
19:07<dr|z3d>!tell argonel about ask
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19:08<argonel>dr|z3d: yeah, great, thanks. knowing what version of debian i'm running is definitely instrumental in determining why a debian website is MIA
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19:09<dr|z3d>argonel: "What's up with snapshot?" isn't a particularly intelligent question is my point.
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19:10<ml|>dpkg: smart questions
19:10<dpkg>Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>.
19:11<argonel>http://snapshot.debian.net/
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19:11<koollman>argonel: well, it's down. Why? no idea.
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19:12<bja>!qotd0
19:12<dpkg><azeem> bengrubb: please try to be comprensible
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19:14<bja>hmmm
19:15<dr|z3d>Just when we were hoping you'd wield your big stick, abrotman.. typical! :P
19:15<ml|>haha
19:15<abrotman>argonel: doesn't really matter .. snapshot has basically been useless for over a year
19:16<argonel>abrotman: any idea what happened to the plan to put it on an official server?
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19:17<abrotman>argonel: NFC .. maybe a clue ont he wiki ?
19:17<argonel>abrotman: its on the http://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/ - but that was put there in march
19:17<abrotman>yay wishlist
19:17<argonel>shoulda been done before it died completely
19:17<abrotman>they need like a bajillion TB to make that happen
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19:18<argonel>heh
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19:18<argonel>only 4, apparently that was what was on fsij.org when it filled up in march
19:19<abrotman>the original? it was also missing a large chunk of time
19:19<argonel>its missing at least 3 chunks that i'm aware of
19:20<argonel>the indexes stopped getting updates, but last i tried you could still get the packages out of the pool dirs
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19:21<chiku>hey
19:21<bja>hi
19:21<chiku>someone use apt-cacher-ng on lenny?
19:21<bja>!ask
19:21<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
19:22<chiku>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522239
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19:22<chiku>apt-cacher-ng is still version 0.2.2-2
19:23<chiku>bug is fixed later version
19:24<chiku>when wil it be fixed for lenny? or even for bakcports?
19:24<chiku>need to take apt-cacher-ng from testing or from sid?
19:26<ml|>judd: versions apt-cacher-ng
19:26<judd>ml|: apt-cacher-ng -- lenny: 0.2.2-2 sid: 0.4-1 squeeze: 0.4-1
19:26<ml|>chiku: /msg dpkg ssb
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19:27<chiku>what mean ssb?
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19:27<ml|>try it
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19:28<chiku>I read it
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19:28<ml|>simple sid backport iirc
19:28<chiku>the meaning of letter "ssb" ?
19:28<chiku>ok
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19:29<chiku>people who use apt-cacher-ng all drop lenny version one? and use sid one?
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19:29<chiku>since april bug closed, there is no fixed for lenny
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19:31<ml|>new packages don't make it into stable, tho i would think for a critical bug it does
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19:33<chiku>is not possible to fix the version 0.2.2-2?
19:33<bja>chiku: there is also a package called apt-cacher which serves the same purpose
19:34<ml|>judd: versions apt-cacher
19:34<judd>ml|: apt-cacher -- etch: 1.5.3 lenny: 1.6.4 sid: 1.6.7 sid: 1.6.8 squeeze: 1.6.8
19:34<bja>maybe if you just changed packages and configure to your liking it may serve the same purpose
19:34<chiku>th bug is closed because bug is fixed on later version. so no one will fixing the lenny one?
19:35<ml|>doubt it
19:35<chiku>and since lenny don't put new version
19:36<chiku>lenny version one will be like that forever?
19:36<bja>chiku: time to roll your sleeves and do the dirty work for yourself :-)
19:36<ml|>have you checked like dpkg said on backports.org
19:36<chiku>no backports for apt-cacher-ng
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19:37<ml|>then continue to step #1 ;)
19:37<danilo>oi
19:37<ml|>or try bja's sugestion
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19:37<ml|>*suggestion
19:38<danilo>kkkkkkkkkkk
19:38<bja>dpkg: tell danilo about br
19:38<chiku>but no one use apt-cacher-ng?
19:39<ml|>or ask someone to backport it for you, visit backports.org for more info
19:39<bja>chiku: apt-mirror
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19:39<chiku>are alternative better?
19:40<bja>they work
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19:40<abrotman>don't use apt-mirror for a cacher
19:40<chiku>I could use apt-cacher if it's just that's work
19:40<abrotman>there is more than one apt caching program
19:40<chiku>just cacher for me
19:41<chiku>not need to make mirror
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19:41<chiku>http://packages.debian.org/lenny/apt-cacher-ng
19:42<ml|>alternative... apt-proxy?
19:42<chiku>Apt-Cacher is more than a simple rewrite of Apt-Cacher.
19:43<chiku>isn't "Apt-Cacher NG is more than a simple rewrite of Apt-Cacher." ?
19:43<abrotman>approx ?>
19:44<chiku>are these alternative better than apt-cacher-ng?
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19:44<bja>chiku: if they get the job done ...
19:44<ml|>why not try to do ssb, you might learn something new
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19:45<chiku>I will
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19:52<bja>!beer chiku
19:52*dpkg pours a quart of Yuengling Lager for chiku
19:53<abrotman>mmm ... lager
19:53<chiku>?
19:53<dr|z3d>Drink it and be happy.
19:54<ml|>hehe :)
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20:18<kurtz>hey, I am trying to use tar to backup some dir's; using: sudo tar cv /media/disk/ /blah/foobar
20:18<kurtz>but nothing gets backed up
20:18<kurtz>or no tar archive is created
20:18<bja>kurtz: man tar
20:19<kurtz>I want to backup /blah/foobar to /media/disk
20:19<kurtz>I have and can't see the option
20:21<bja>kurtz: tar -cvvf /media/disk/your-file.tgz /blah/foobar
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20:21<bja>line 27 on man tar
20:22<kurtz>thanks
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20:22<bja>!next
20:22<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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20:26<SoloFlyer754>does anyone now if marco d'ltri is actively maintaining ppp?
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20:32<abrotman>SoloFlyer754: have you tried contacting him? are you offering to adopt the package ?
20:35<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: while i would be willing to adopt the package i dont believe i have the necessary experience to be a package maintainer....
20:36<abrotman>SoloFlyer754: okay .. so why the interest?
20:36<abrotman>(you could offer to help with the package)
20:37<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: i have logged a bug with a patch against ppp a few months ago but i havent seen any response... and i noticed that other bug reports havent had much response either...
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20:38<abrotman>SoloFlyer754: which bug?
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20:39<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: i originally tried to submit the patch upstream, but upstream for pppd appears to be dead...
20:39<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: 538107
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20:40<abrotman>seems like you added a patch to the bug ..
20:40<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: yes i did
20:41<abrotman>you could append the bug and ask if a) the patch is going to be applied in time for squeeze b) Md would like assistance in maintaining the ppp package (if you're willing tohelp)
20:42<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: thankyou for your time and assistance i will do as you have suggested!
20:43<abrotman>SoloFlyer754: worst thing that happens is he replies a) never b) buzz off
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20:44<SoloFlyer754>abrotman: lol, i guess we will see :)
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21:07<SuperMIguel>i keep getting this when running apt-get update after installing opera: gpg --armor --export F9A2F76A9D1A0061 | apt-key add -
21:07<SuperMIguel>ups.
21:07<SuperMIguel>error is W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F9A2F76A9D1A0061
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21:44<SoloFlyer754>SuperMIguel: did you run gpg --armor --export F9A2F76A9D1A0061 | apt-key add - as root?
21:44<SuperMIguel>SoloFlyer754, i got it working.. Thank u
21:44<SoloFlyer754>SuperMIguel: no problem :)
21:44<bja>!congratulate SuperMIguel
21:44<dpkg>Nice one SuperMIguel, you did it!
21:45<SuperMIguel>bja, lolo
21:45<bja>for the record how did you do it
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21:45<SuperMIguel>gpg --armor --export F9A2F76A9D1A0061 | apt-key add -
21:46<bja>:)
21:47<SuperMIguel>!wine
21:47<dpkg>[wine] Wine Is Not an Emulator, an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs. Packaged for Debian. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . The beta Wine packages from lamaresh.net are _not_ supported in #debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ http://www.winehq.org/ #winehq on irc.freenode.net.
21:48<SuperMIguel>umm first thing that i dont see a debian wiki
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21:49<bja>SuperMIguel: There is allways a first time :)
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21:51<blendmaster1024>bja: except when it never happens
21:53<bja>Murphys law; "If there is a slight probability of something happening, giving it enough time it will eventually happen."
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21:53<bja>Murphy was a captain of usaf or raf i can't remember
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22:01<SoloFlyer754>murphys law oh so true some of the bugs people have reported to me today... im like how the hell did you manage to pull that off!?!?
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22:02<aaron__>help
22:02<aaron__>#ubuntu
22:02<bja>!ask
22:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:02<bja> aaron__ /j #ubuntu @irc.freenode.net
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22:03<SoloFlyer754>bja: /part #debian works too...
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22:05<bja>SoloFlyer: actually he needs /part #debian /server irc.freenode.net /j #ubuntu
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22:10<koffee>hi all... anyone want to help a newbie with some basic boot configuration?
22:10<SoloFlyer>!ask
22:10<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:10<koffee>I got a hosted server and connect with tightvnc, which shows me lxde
22:11<koffee>rebooted by accident, and neither of those came back. I sorta got it working again, but want to config it to always be that way
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22:12<koffee>also, it looks like my lxde is a new config instead of the one that they gave me... no web browser or bottom bar with clock and all that
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22:14<SoloFlyer>how have you got tightvnc server setup at the moment?
22:15<SoloFlyer>through inetd? or standalone
22:15<koffee>short answer: wrong :) I launched it from a putty session, but I don't think I set the geometry right
22:16<koffee>standalone... I want it to auto-launch
22:16<bja>koffee: beyond your discussion or any help you can get here, you will eventually will have to learn how to set things up directly from the console
22:17<koffee>well, that's what I'm looking for... basic help or pointers to good tutorials, etc. been googling all day
22:18<SoloFlyer>look into starting tightvnc server through inetd
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22:19<Web-sidux67>hello peeps, i just love Kde4.3 lots of new goodies to fool around with.
22:19<koffee>is tightvnc != vnc4server?
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22:20<SoloFlyer>dpkg -S vnc4server
22:20<dpkg>Dingos ate my vnc4server!
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22:23<SoloFlyer>koffee: dpkg -S tightvncserver <-- will tell you which package it belongs to
22:23<SoloFlyer>koffee: dpkg -S vnc4server <-- ditto
22:24<koffee>vncserver and tightvncserver not found
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22:24<koffee>vnc4server lists some paths ending with /usr/bin/vnc4server
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22:26<SoloFlyer>koffee: dpkg -l vnc4server
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22:27<SoloFlyer>koffee: dpkg -l tightvncserver
22:27-!-s5unty [~s5unty@222.95.14.239] has quit [Quit: Message too long]
22:27<koffee>no packages found matching
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22:28<SoloFlyer>koffee: then i would suggest that tightvncserver isnt installed but vnc4server is
22:28<koffee>is tight better?
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22:29<SoloFlyer>different tight supports jpeg encoding
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22:29<SoloFlyer>koffee: work calls bbl
22:30<koffee>ok... thanks
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22:35<Richard_Martin>does anyone know how to get in touch with OPs at Freenode
22:36<SuperMIguel>OPs?
22:36<Richard_Martin>channel operators
22:37-!-Nickname [~Nickname@lennoxdhcp-30.216-16-97.iw.net] has quit []
22:37<abrotman>for which channel?
22:38<Richard_Martin>For Freenode server
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22:38<abrotman>for which channel on freenode?
22:38<Richard_Martin>#defocus
22:38<abrotman>that's a social channel
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22:38<Richard_Martin>I know
22:38<Richard_Martin>I was klined when I was in there for a total BS reason
22:38<abrotman>if you were klined, it was by staff
22:39<Richard_Martin>Yes
22:39<abrotman>and it has nothing to do with Debian
22:39<Richard_Martin>I need to get in touch with them
22:39<abrotman>i'd suggest email, have a nice day
22:39<Richard_Martin>I already have
22:39<Richard_Martin>twice
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22:39<abrotman>not our problem, wrong network, wrong channel
22:39<Richard_Martin>Help me out
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22:41<Richard_Martin>I believe the staff member who klined me was Christel
22:43<SuperMIguel>Richard_Martin, log in as another user... register it with another email..
22:43<Richard_Martin>No I have the same IP
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22:45<IceIsFun>Has anyone had success getting the nics on z8pe-d12 to work in Debian?
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22:45<n3lab>hey hey
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22:45<IceIsFun>The lan chipset is Intel 82574L
22:46<n3lab>does anybody know where can i read about gimp? i mean gimp lessons and tutorials :)
22:46<IceIsFun>you've already tried google?
22:46<n3lab>yap
22:46<IceIsFun>i found some pretty descent ones
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22:46<IceIsFun>i guess i was doing simple stuff though
22:46<n3lab>maybe anybody know smth else
22:47<gecko_>i did compile a 2.6.31 kernel without the pcspkr module, now I want to get beep, what I suppose to do?
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22:49<n3lab>so seems that the best site about gimp is http://gimpology.com/ ?
22:50<SoloFlyer>koffee: any luck?
22:51<SoloFlyer>n3lab: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
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22:51<n3lab>it's too small
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22:54<IceIsFun>thats what she said
22:54<gsimmons>IceIsFun: AIUI, support for the 82574L controller was backported from the e1000e driver in kernel 2.6.27 to linux-2.6 2.6.26-18, which will be in the next stable update (5.0.3).
22:55<IceIsFun>Ok good, for now that box will run 2008 but I love those boards and want to build a few more linux boxes with them
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22:55<IceIsFun>thanks for the info gsimmons
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