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| 00:26 | <nicone> | is there any way to undelete files in /tmp that were there the last time i booted? |
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| 00:42 | <diguinhu> | ola pessoal |
| 00:42 | <diguinhu> | alguem aii |
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| 00:45 | <arr> | some off cheese is broken any idea why? |
| 00:46 | <arr> | some of cheese that is |
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| 00:57 | <Guest1333> | anyone know if its possible to print on a id card with a normal inkjet printer? |
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| 00:58 | <susila> | hi, I ran xkill and then clicked on my desktop. Is there a command to run the desktop again? |
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| 01:02 | <susila> | never mind, problem solved by pointing and clicking. |
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| 01:12 | <Guest1333> | could debian have a older version of gimp? |
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| 01:21 | <twb> | Help me understand this error from "fsck /dev/VGraid/my-snapshot": root primary superblock features different from backup, check forced. |
| 01:22 | <twb> | It's an LVM snapshot of a (mounted, active) ext3 filesystem. |
| 01:23 | <jm_> | I think that's common if you run it on a fs that wasn't cleanly unmounted |
| 01:23 | <twb> | Yeah, I just want to make sure it's the error I'm *supposed* to get. |
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| 01:24 | <twb> | (I'm calling fsck specifically so as to clear the "not cleanly unmounted" bit.) |
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| 01:24 | <jm_> | probably a question for ext3 folks |
| 01:24 | <twb> | Yeah, I dunno where the hide on IRC |
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| 01:25 | <jm_> | how about #kernelnewbies? |
| 01:25 | <twb> | Worth a shot |
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| 01:28 | <Lillymon> | I just booted the graphical installer for the latest Debian testing, and saw it flash back and forth endlessly between graphics and error messages (the errors flashed by too quickly to read anything). What the hell just happened? |
| 01:28 | <twb> | Lillymon: you found a bug in the automatically-generated build image |
| 01:28 | <twb> | s/build/install/ |
| 01:29 | <twb> | Lillymon: use the GTK installer for Lenny and then dist-upgrade |
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| 01:29 | <jm_> | either that or X is not starting properly |
| 01:29 | <Lillymon> | I should also mention I tried Debian Etch on this system, and after installing it, X totally failed to start. Load of errors, then terminal. |
| 01:29 | <twb> | jm_: it's fbgtk AFAIK |
| 01:29 | <jm_> | etch is rather old, you'd be better off using lenny |
| 01:30 | <Lillymon> | Well Etch was new at the time. |
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| 01:30 | <jm_> | twb: ahh doh, then your explanation is the right one of course |
| 01:30 | <Vyrus001> | is the smp kernel for 2.6.30-2-686 not in testing or something? |
| 01:30 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: all kernels are SMP for a long time |
| 01:30 | <Vyrus001> | im apt-cache searching for the headers and i dont see anything or smp |
| 01:30 | <twb> | jm_: it could still be dfb misdetecting the DDC modelines from the monitor |
| 01:30 | <Lillymon> | The experience has made me think live CD may be the best way to go. Just so I'm sure Debian and the graphics on this system don't still hate each other. |
| 01:30 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: hm... but i seem to keep getting errors saying i dont have my /usr/src/linux sim link setup correctly and i do |
| 01:30 | <twb> | Lillymon: the boot MEDIUM is irrelevant |
| 01:31 | <Vyrus001> | rly confused... its not just 1 installer thats doing it |
| 01:31 | <K|NgGh0sT> | Everytime I go to use apt-get update I get this... pt-get update 0% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] |
| 01:31 | <jm_> | twb: does it even do that? maybe that new vesa fb driver does (uvesa or whatever), the old one doesn't |
| 01:31 | <twb> | Lillymon: you can try booting with "-- fb=false" |
| 01:31 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:31 | <K|NgGh0sT> | Any way to diagnose this, doesnt seem to matter what mirror I use |
| 01:31 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: install a few drivers |
| 01:31 | <Lillymon> | twb: It is when my BIOS is this stupid. It only really wants to boot from a hard drive or CD. |
| 01:31 | <twb> | jm_: I don't know. fbgtk uses directfb, which is somehow independent of vesafb |
| 01:31 | <Vyrus001> | nvidia ones to be precise |
| 01:31 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: are you using a debian kernel image? |
| 01:31 | <Vyrus001> | yep |
| 01:32 | <Vyrus001> | ive got kernel headers for my uname, only thing different is the smp tag |
| 01:32 | <Lillymon> | Either way, the graphical installer failing is pretty irrelevant. I take it the non-graphical option is ncurses, which I can handle. |
| 01:32 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: then you need linux-headers-$(uname -r) - note, a while back people using 2.6.30 from backports suffered from this as there seemed to be no kernel headers for it |
| 01:33 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: my kernel headers match my uname version.. but it is a 2.6.30 image |
| 01:33 | <Vyrus001> | maby im missing somthin |
| 01:34 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: nope.. .that exact command shows my headers as alredy installed |
| 01:34 | <Lillymon> | So is a Debian live CD even possible or am I just going to have to jump in not even knowing that X will work? |
| 01:34 | <twb> | Lillymon: there are Debian live CDs. |
| 01:34 | <jm_> | Lillymon: debian live is not the same as debian installer |
| 01:35 | <twb> | Lillymon: #debian-live can tell you about those |
| 01:35 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: ok, which nvidia driver? how are you installing it? |
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| 01:35 | <Lillymon> | I know, I just want a live CD to reassure me, I can install later. I want to see Debian on my system, with X active. |
| 01:35 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: the one i got off there website |
| 01:35 | <jm_> | yeah try debian-live then or any other linux live cd |
| 01:35 | <twb> | Also, Debian works without X |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: you should do it the debian way, we don't support that here |
| 01:36 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: link to the debian way? |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | !nvidia |
| 01:36 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). Ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: the wiki link |
| 01:36 | <Lillymon> | twb: It does, but I don't. I do not enjoy the prospect of trying to fix a major system compontent from the command line. |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: another note - you will need to backport the version from sid for use with 2.6.30 if you're on lenny or testing |
| 01:36 | <twb> | Lillymon: fixing major components like X? ;-) |
| 01:36 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: on testing... squeeze |
| 01:37 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: ok then you should be able to use it from sid I believe |
| 01:37 | <jm_> | without backporting |
| 01:37 | <Vyrus001> | cool... now i just have to get x booted long enough to get the file <_< |
| 01:37 | <Vyrus001> | for some reason the vesa driver freezes the whole system after a min or so |
| 01:37 | <Vyrus001> | no hint at why in the logs |
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| 01:38 | <twb> | It staggers me that people who are technical enough to want Debian, can't do emergency recovery without X |
| 01:39 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: why X? |
| 01:39 | <Lillymon> | I guess I'm going to be fiddling more with my BIOS. It's just staggeringly stupid that I have to disable booting from my primary hard drive to enable booting from USB. |
| 01:39 | <jm_> | install an irc client for tty, get familir with it and join #debian, all you need |
| 01:40 | <Lillymon> | I'm using Irssi right now. |
| 01:40 | <jm_> | yeah too bad we don't have something like sbm for booting from USB :) |
| 01:40 | <twb> | Lillymon: BIOSes are stupid. |
| 01:40 | <jm_> | yeah that tty irc client comment was targeted at Vyrus001 |
| 01:40 | <twb> | !sbm |
| 01:40 | <dpkg> | i heard sbm is Smart Boot Manager, or docs on the Debian CD: /install/README.sbm. Uses a floppy to boot a CD or HDD and other options if your computer can't. |
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| 01:40 | <Bergerac-Fleur> | woah, I've got a big problem |
| 01:40 | <twb> | jm_: is that like GPXE, but for non-PXE boot methods? |
| 01:40 | <Bergerac-Fleur> | nvm fixed |
| 01:41 | <Lillymon> | I was hoping I could setup a USB, CD/DVD, HDD lineup. But no, USB is considered a hard drive, and I can only select ONE hard drive... |
| 01:41 | <Lillymon> | It seems the order is always three, and must consist of one FDD, one CD/DVD, and one HDD. No other combination is recognized. |
| 01:42 | <Lillymon> | Bear in mind, this BIOS carries a copyright date of 2007. |
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| 01:42 | <jm_> | twb: hmm I am not familiar with GPXE - SBM drives hardware directly to boot from CD if your BIOS can't |
| 01:43 | <jm_> | Lillymon: impressive |
| 01:43 | <Lillymon> | I'm getting tired again now, I thought I'd at least be in squeeze by now. |
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| 01:45 | <jm_> | just boot from a CD which seems to work and use text installer |
| 01:46 | <Lillymon> | I'm probably going to keep using USB now, no matter how dumb the BIOS is about it. I'm probably going to see how a live CD of Debian Lenny works. If that boots, Squeeze should be no problem. Theoretically, sid should never be a problem, since I'm using Kubuntu Jaunty, which WAS sid less than a year ago. |
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| 01:47 | <Lillymon> | But error messages always make me get cold feet. |
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| 01:52 | <twb> | jm_: GPXE boots from anything and then allows you to boot from network |
| 01:52 | <twb> | For when your NIC doesn't include a PXE ROM |
| 01:54 | <arr> | some of cheese is broken any idea why? |
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| 02:17 | <reval> | hello, I was wondering if there's a way to change the clock speed of a cpu without recompiling the kernel |
| 02:17 | <reval> | right now mine's at 200 and it seems a bit unresponsive since this is just a desktop |
| 02:18 | <sney> | you should be able to adjust CPU speeds in the bios |
| 02:18 | <reval> | What I'm thinking of I know you can adjust when you make a kernel |
| 02:18 | <sney> | cpufreq support is enabled by default in the debian kernel, but it only works on cpus that support software speed changing ... which is pretty much only laptops |
| 02:18 | <reval> | oh. |
| 02:19 | <reval> | how do I get to it? |
| 02:19 | <sney> | aptitude search cpufreq |
| 02:20 | <reval> | thanks =) |
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| 02:22 | <masspitz> | !list |
| 02:22 | <dpkg> | masspitz: VATTENE VIA |
| 02:23 | <masspitz> | scusate sono nuovo |
| 02:23 | <jm_> | actually all modern CPU-s support cpufreq |
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| 02:23 | <jm_> | ok make that 95% of them |
| 02:24 | <sney> | basicaly it's "most should" but many don't |
| 02:24 | <jm_> | they do |
| 02:24 | <sney> | mine doesn't, "AMD Cool'n'Quiet" notwithstanding . |
| 02:24 | <jm_> | that *is* cpufreq stuff |
| 02:26 | <sney> | O |
| 02:26 | <reval> | I guess my question is hard to word |
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| 02:26 | <sney> | I've tried a couple times to get it working. It always complains that cpufreq support doesn't exist. |
| 02:27 | <jm_> | sney: which CPU is it? |
| 02:27 | <sney> | and it was never supported on the older kit I used to use, though I guess that's basically a given on P3 and older |
| 02:27 | <sney> | Athlon 64 4200+ |
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| 02:28 | <jm_> | what happens when you load powernow-k8 driver? |
| 02:28 | <reval> | What I want is to find a way to make it change how often it switches processes |
| 02:29 | <sney> | yeah I just found that |
| 02:29 | <sney> | shouldn't that be one of the things it loads by default, along with all the other things it autodetects? oh well |
| 02:29 | <jm_> | reval: CFS has shitloads of tuning knobs if you enable SCHED_DEBUG |
| 02:29 | <jm_> | sney: see /etc/init.d/loadcpufreq |
| 02:30 | <sney> | no such animal. do you mean /etc/init.d/cpufreqd? |
| 02:30 | <jm_> | ok so you don't have cpufrequtils installed ;) |
| 02:31 | <jm_> | I just use ondemand governor, works for me, cpufreqd is user space governor |
| 02:31 | <sney> | amazing that I could have the xfce cpufreq plugin, and cpufreqd, and neither of them pulls cpufrequtils as a dependency |
| 02:32 | <jm_> | that's normal, they don't rely on it to work - they jsut need libcpufreq0 (probably, haven't checked) |
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| 02:33 | <jm_> | yeah they do |
| 02:33 | <sney> | then how the heck did I have them both installed and not cpufrequtils? |
| 02:34 | <jm_> | what do you mean? exactly because of what I just said - they depend on libcpufreq0, not on cpufrequtils |
| 02:34 | <jm_> | you don't really need cpufrequtils to use this |
| 02:34 | <sney> | then what was this about? <jm_> yeah they do |
| 02:34 | <jm_> | that they depend on libcpufreq0 |
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| 02:35 | <sney> | ahh, ok. man I need to sleep, I am so off my game tonight |
| 02:35 | <jm_> | I am just lazy typist, sorry about that :) |
| 02:35 | <jm_> | cpufrequtils allow you to get info on/set operation for cpufreq kernel stuff |
| 02:35 | <jm_> | (instead of poking in /sys manually) |
| 02:35 | <sney> | yeah, I think I've done this before. hmm |
| 02:36 | <jm_> | maybe that xfce plugin allows you to do the same things |
| 02:36 | <jm_> | now all you need to do is also load governor modules you want to use, set the defaults with one of several solutions and oyu're set |
| 02:36 | <sney> | I was out of the "scene" so to speak for a couple years, so I remember maybe 3/4 of what I used to be really good at, and a bunch of stuff has changed and all my hardware is newer |
| 02:37 | <sney> | it's like I'm starting over in some ways, and like riding a bike in others. weird experience to say the least. |
| 02:38 | <Vyrus001> | is there a reason i cant just boot into a live cd and run grub-install /dev/sda any more? |
| 02:38 | <sney> | I will say that I had a better understanding of ALSA when you needed to build it yourself and do all the config files manually ;) |
| 02:38 | <Vyrus001> | is there some newway to fix the grub2 mbr? |
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| 02:39 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: the reason is you're doing it wrong |
| 02:39 | <jm_> | !tell Vyrus001 -about fixmbr |
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| 03:00 | <Administrator> | /msg dpkg lenny |
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| 03:17 | <McE> | hi. i'm installing debian 5 from an usb stick (created from the cdrom image using unetbootin), booting works, but now i keep getting asked about mounting a cdrom... any help? |
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| 03:20 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: so the sid pack i need is the sid version of the nvidia-kernel-package yes |
| 03:20 | <Vyrus001> | ? |
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| 03:27 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: you'll probabnly want nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 03:31 | <Bergerac-Fleur> | McE, is it cdrom not found? |
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| 03:32 | <Bergerac-Fleur> | try removing the fromhd or fromiso boot options |
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| 03:40 | <Vyrus001> | jm_: got it all working the debian way... had to rol nvid k src and glx from sid but it all worked with gl support |
| 03:40 | <Vyrus001> | thnx |
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| 03:41 | <jm_> | Vyrus001: right |
| 03:42 | <twb> | !abbreviations |
| 03:42 | <twb> | Bah, dpkg is less ornery than me. |
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| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | i need some help running limewire pro ,ive correctly installed jre run time 6.12 and i still get this error |
| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | Loading LimeWire: |
| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/xawt/libmawt.so |
| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1666) |
| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Runtime.java:787) |
| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | at java.lang.System.load(System.java:1022) |
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| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | at org.limewire.ui.swing.Main.main(Main.java:28) |
| 03:49 | <ghostkernel> | ****************************************************************** |
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| 03:51 | <ghostkernel> | im having trouble running limwire pro on my machine ,ive installed the neccessary dependacies and jre run time 6.12.0 |
| 03:51 | <ghostkernel> | any ideas what it can be? |
| 03:52 | <ghostkernel> | this is what caught my attention Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/xawt/libmawt.so |
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| 03:54 | <jm_> | ghostkernel: do you have that file? |
| 03:54 | <ghostkernel> | yes |
| 03:54 | <ghostkernel> | thats was really confusing |
| 03:54 | <jm_> | what does file say for it? |
| 03:54 | <ghostkernel> | hold on let me open the directory |
| 03:56 | <ghostkernel> | ok that was strange now i dont have it |
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| 03:57 | <ghostkernel> | i have all the directoris up to /i386/ |
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| 03:59 | <jm_> | so it's looking in the wrong dir |
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| 04:00 | <ghostkernel> | yes |
| 04:00 | <ghostkernel> | i guess |
| 04:00 | <ghostkernel> | let me look for the file and see if i can change the dir on the source |
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| 04:00 | <twb> | Limewire doesn't work with any of the FOSS JVMs? |
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| 04:02 | <twb> | Oh, OPENjdk. The 6.x made it sounds like Sun's Java. Carry on. |
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| 04:03 | <twb> | ghostkernel: what does uname -m say? |
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| 04:03 | <ghostkernel> | i686 |
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| 04:04 | <ghostkernel> | is my architecture the problem? |
| 04:04 | <twb> | And openjdk-6-jre is installed? |
| 04:04 | <ghostkernel> | i had it installed eralier and it wouldnt work anyways,but no i do not have on right now |
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| 04:05 | <twb> | The error indicated it was trying to access a file provided by that package. |
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| 04:06 | <ghostkernel> | it actually had created a different directory for the specified file that it was asking,so i tried to create the missing folder and move the misplace file in the created folder ansd still no luck |
| 04:07 | <twb> | Trying to just move files around will make matters worse. |
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| 04:07 | <twb> | ghostkernel: what does "readlink /etc/alternatives/java" print? |
| 04:07 | <McE> | bergerac - sorry I was disconnected |
| 04:07 | <ghostkernel> | guys!!! nevermind problems solved |
| 04:08 | <ghostkernel> | i dont even know what the hell i did but still thank you alot twb,jm_ help was truly appreciated |
| 04:08 | * | twb sighs |
| 04:08 | <ghostkernel> | have a good one guys im going to sleep im tired lol |
| 04:09 | <McE> | I cannot mount the usb stick - mount: mounting /dev/sdb1 on /mnt failed: invalid argument |
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| 04:09 | <twb> | McE: are you in a rescue mode? |
| 04:09 | <twb> | McE: busybox mount REQUIRES -t ext3 |
| 04:10 | <McE> | twb - I'm installing debian 5 from a usb stick, booting works, but it will ask "detect and mount cd-rom" which doesn't work (should it?) - so I try to mount the usb stick manually which fails |
| 04:10 | <twb> | McE: you've put the wrong thing on the USB key, I think. |
| 04:10 | <McE> | twb - oh, thanks, this means vfat doesnt work for usb install? |
| 04:11 | <twb> | hd-media installer needs you to include an .iso on the key |
| 04:11 | <twb> | netboot installer doesn't, it just needs the kernel and ramdisk, and a bootloader to load them |
| 04:11 | <jm_> | McE: installation explains how to prepare USB for debian installtion, and more importantly, which image touse |
| 04:12 | <McE> | twb - netboot doesnt work since my darn wlan router dns-server doesnt work |
| 04:12 | <jm_> | installation manual that is |
| 04:12 | <McE> | jm_, I was using unetbootin to put the std. iso image on my stick - is this worng? |
| 04:12 | <twb> | McE: fix your router's DHCP server to supply a different name-server attribute in its DHCPACKs, then. |
| 04:13 | <twb> | unetbootin is for little girls |
| 04:13 | <jm_> | McE: not for the booting part, but that one will want ISO |
| 04:13 | <twb> | And chartered accountants and other weaklings |
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| 04:13 | <twb> | Real Men use dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/netinst or so |
| 04:13 | <McE> | twb - okokok :-) I wasn't using linux the last 5 years, but I started out in 1995, so dont call me a little girl :-)) - i was just curious to see "what happened while I was down" - if unetbootin is evil, how should I know :) |
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| 04:14 | <twb> | unetbootin is evil because it tries to be nice to users |
| 04:14 | <twb> | It's like putting sugar in your coffee |
| 04:15 | <McE> | twb, yeah, sorry, I like sugar, and milk! and some whiskey X-) |
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| 04:15 | <twb> | Well, anyways, it's failing because the ramdisk you have on the USB key requires you to ALSO have an .iso on the key, in its root directory. |
| 04:15 | <McE> | twb- ok, 1st thing: I'll re-read the install howto. 2nd thing: I don't have a linux box running right now so I need something to create ext2 on my usb stick - will the how2 help? |
| 04:16 | <twb> | You don't need to use ext2 -- FAT16 will work fine. |
| 04:16 | <twb> | !install guide |
| 04:16 | <dpkg> | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.3) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r8) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 04:16 | <twb> | That has some appendices on various install media |
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| 04:17 | <McE> | twb - ok, ill give it a try. Thanks for now in anycase :) stay around here usually? |
| 04:18 | <twb> | I'm gonna go home in a minute. |
| 04:19 | <McE> | ok, bye then. btw |
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| 05:24 | <Georg_> | hi |
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| 05:24 | <Georg_> | so, I was trying to download debian... but can't really figure out what I need to download at http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| 05:24 | <Georg_> | can anybody help me ? |
| 05:25 | <Georg_> | whats the diffrence between these "[alpha][amd64][arm][armel][hppa][i386][ia64][mips][mipsel][powerpc][sparc][s390][source][multi-arch]" ? |
| 05:25 | <oki> | p |
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| 05:29 | <Georg_> | hello? |
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| 05:30 | <Kvant> | Georg_, they are for different processor architectures |
| 05:30 | <Georg_> | well I got intel x86 |
| 05:30 | <Georg_> | so i386 for me rite ? |
| 05:30 | <Kvant> | that'll be i386 |
| 05:30 | <Kvant> | yep |
| 05:30 | <Georg_> | tought so |
| 05:30 | <Georg_> | ty |
| 05:30 | <Georg_> | but does it matter which cd I download from here ? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/?C=M;O=A |
| 05:31 | <Kvant> | yeah, you need cd 1 or the netinst cd for installation |
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| 05:32 | <Georg_> | so |
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| 05:32 | <Georg_> | debian-update-5.0.3-i386-CD-1.iso works for the deal rite ? |
| 05:32 | <Kvant> | (not update-cd-1) |
| 05:32 | <Georg_> | darn ! |
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| 05:35 | <Georg_> | so debian-503-i386-netinst.iso for install and then ? |
| 05:35 | <Kvant> | yeah, if you have net access during installation |
| 05:35 | <Georg_> | i do |
| 05:35 | <Kvant> | dl it, burn it, boot it :) |
| 05:36 | <Georg_> | so small |
| 05:36 | <Georg_> | can you show me gui pics ? |
| 05:36 | <Kvant> | it dls stuff directly from the net during inst |
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| 05:44 | <Electron> | hello |
| 05:44 | <Georg_> | hi |
| 05:44 | <Electron> | i have a problem with debian |
| 05:44 | <Electron> | would you help me?) |
| 05:44 | <Georg_> | i'm noob sorry |
| 05:44 | <Georg_> | D: |
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| 05:44 | <Electron> | =) |
| 05:45 | <jm_> | !ask |
| 05:45 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 05:46 | <Electron> | I have a problem with aptitude; I'm running on debian 5.0. When I try to install package with aptitude (GUI) I get the output "FATAL -> Failed to fork" |
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| 05:47 | <Electron> | This problem is staying with debian 6 |
| 05:48 | <Nemoder> | how much memory does your system have? |
| 05:48 | <Electron> | 100mb |
| 05:48 | <Nemoder> | that might not be enough |
| 05:49 | <Electron> | But in non ncurses interface i was installed normal |
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| 05:49 | <Electron> | example htop |
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| 05:50 | <Electron> | command "aptitude install htop" is working |
| 05:50 | <jm_> | well the gui version needs more memory |
| 05:52 | <jm_> | 100MB is not enough even for Debian Lenny, so you are not meeting the recommended minimum |
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| 05:53 | <Electron> | thx for answers |
| 05:54 | <Electron> | Lenny is still last stable version? |
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| 05:54 | <jm_> | yes |
| 05:54 | <Electron> | thx for all |
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| 05:55 | <jm_> | no worries |
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| 05:56 | <McE> | hi |
| 05:57 | <McE> | i just successfuly installed deb5 from hd-media. NW config fails, since dhcp is not recognized - however this worked with a recent knoppix. Where can I get help on reinstalling network under debian? |
| 05:58 | <McE> | do I have to vi /etc/interfaces or is there a gui helper? |
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| 06:00 | <Nemoder> | gnome's network manager should work if you have a full desktop install |
| 06:00 | <jm_> | McE: I don't know of one short of etherconf (not in lenny anymore) |
| 06:00 | <jm_> | yeah NM can also do it if you want that crap |
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| 06:01 | <McE> | jm - I don't really want something on X, just to re-run the same terminal-based thingy I'd seen during installation... |
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| 06:01 | <Nemoder> | never hurts to read the docs though, 'man interfaces' for some examples |
| 06:01 | <McE> | i just stumbled across iwlist and iwconfig |
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| 06:02 | <McE> | nemoder, yep man interfaces is clear (so is ifconfig etc); which thingy is run during the initial configuration, and is it possible to re-run this? |
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| 06:02 | <themill> | no |
| 06:04 | <McE> | does the "wifi-radar" thing make any sense? |
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| 06:05 | <McE> | I mean - under knoppix evering works fine just entering the ssid & stuff - can't I do the same thing in "real" debian? |
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| 06:07 | <peej> | mce, if you're going to go command line, you really need to read the docs. The basic principle is use iwlist to scan, iwconfig to configure. interfaces file to keep the configured stuff |
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| 06:09 | <McE> | peej, ok, I'm not worried to read the docs, I'll do. It's just - I wasn't using deb for soooo long, i'm kind of outdated on the "up-to-date-way-to-do-things". My NAG is from the 90s :-). I'll read thru iwlist & iwfg dox. THanks. |
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| 06:14 | <K0JIbKA1> | Hello! |
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| 06:19 | <costash> | Again, I have installed exim4 to handle internal e-mail. The SMTP seems to be working. When I try to retrieve e-mail from a client, I get the following error message from geximon: "rejected RCPT, relay not permitted.". On the client I get the error: "550 relay not permitted.". I think it is the POP3 server that has the problem. Could anybody help with this? |
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| 06:22 | <jm_> | costash: this makes no sense - retrieve e-mail means what? |
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| 06:25 | <McE> | peej, hmm i read through iwlist (i found my hub), i read through iwconfig, I can't set my passphrase though using s:(passphrase); how does the installer do it? manpage says "passphrase not supported" (?) |
| 06:25 | <costash> | jm_: I send an e-mail with Outlook. It gets delivered to the linux server. When I try to retrieve it, I get the errors. |
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| 06:26 | <gsimmons> | McE: Are you attempting to connect to a WPA-encrypted network? |
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| 06:27 | <[Elvis]> | hej guys, I have a question...I have 2 identical servers..and I wanna do some sort of replication |
| 06:27 | <[Elvis]> | to make an exact mirror of the data on them |
| 06:27 | <[Elvis]> | from 1 to the other...is this somehow possible with debian |
| 06:27 | <McE> | gsimmons, yep, wpa1 |
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| 06:28 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell McE -about wpa |
| 06:28 | <McE> | (wpa version 1, authentication suites: tkip |
| 06:28 | <gsimmons> | McE: Short answer: iwconfig isn't used for this. |
| 06:28 | <peej> | mce: more stuff to read ;) - basically, you set that in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 06:29 | <McE> | gsimmons, peej: thanks A LOT! I didn't really find this - stupid. |
| 06:29 | <costash> | jm_: Actually when i test the SMTP using telnet I get the error:rcpt to: root@trainingcenter.edu.gr |
| 06:29 | <costash> | 550 relay not permitted |
| 06:29 | <slush> | [Elvis]: drbd |
| 06:30 | <[Elvis]> | slush.. what is drbd? |
| 06:30 | <slush> | RAID 1 over tcp/ip |
| 06:30 | <peej> | elvis: depends what you want. drbd is like raid for servers. |
| 06:30 | <McE> | btw, why debian-installer doesn't support WPA? Cause it's supposed to be not safe[tm]? |
| 06:31 | <gsimmons> | McE: Not yet implemented. Some experimental support provided on the debian-boot mailing list made its way into the kmuto installer. |
| 06:31 | <[Elvis]> | peej if possible I would like to see every writing action to the harddisk mirrored to another hardidsk in another machine |
| 06:31 | <McE> | gsimmons, this means if i'm looking for a christmas project I can help there :) |
| 06:31 | <[Elvis]> | to always have 2 exact copies of eachother |
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| 06:32 | <peej> | elvis, without excluding stuff? |
| 06:32 | <[Elvis]> | you mean excluding certain writing actions? |
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| 06:33 | <[Elvis]> | like for example only the /home dir |
| 06:33 | <jm_> | costash: ok so that's because your configuration doesn't allow to use this MTA as a mail relay |
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| 06:36 | <[Elvis]> | so peej I guess that's possible then |
| 06:37 | <peej> | elvis, I don't know |
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| 06:38 | <peej> | sorry, let me clarify. I don't know if you can sync stuff and exclude stuff at the same time with drbd. |
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| 06:40 | <mhash> | you can't exclude stuff sitting on a partition.. it's block level replicaton across the network. However, you can choose which partitions or underlying store device to replicate |
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| 06:42 | <mhash> | for example, if your home folder is sitting on a separate partition / lv, etc, you can choose to simply replicate that -- on a two node drbd cluster with drbd8, you can also mount the drbd device in write mode (on both systems) |
| 06:43 | <jm_> | mhash: linux has no folders on fs! |
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| 06:44 | <mhash> | jm_ heh, true |
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| 06:48 | <peej> | ok. the alternative seems to be regular rsyncing. |
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| 06:52 | <Shadow64> | hey all |
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| 06:53 | <perk> | where can i get the previous package for an arbitrary package? are they archived somewhere? |
| 06:53 | <jm_> | !sdn |
| 06:53 | <dpkg> | from memory, snapshots is an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. unmaintained since May 2008 |
| 06:53 | <jm_> | if it still works |
| 06:53 | <perk> | ah, i looked at archive.d.o. |
| 06:53 | <Shadow64> | I have a question, I have a IBM 8363 thin client that uses compact flash cards to boot and is tricky to boot up (requires special kernel) |
| 06:53 | <perk> | ty |
| 06:53 | <jm_> | that's for releases |
| 06:53 | <perk> | yeah |
| 06:53 | <perk> | i noticed |
| 06:54 | <Shadow64> | I was wondering if I could install debian on a old system of mine, compile the special kernel and such then clone it to a cf card |
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| 06:55 | <perk> | Shadow64, what about http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel |
| 06:56 | <Shadow64> | the thing is |
| 06:56 | <Shadow64> | this thin client does not have cd rom |
| 06:56 | <perk> | then use a usb-stick |
| 06:56 | <perk> | or netboot? |
| 06:57 | <Shadow64> | the IDE (hda) is a cf card device |
| 06:57 | <perk> | jm_, snapshots.d.n seems to point to archive.undebian.org... Debian Unofficial archive |
| 06:57 | <Shadow64> | can't boot from USB. the thin client doesn't use a bios, it uses a special firmware like the mac uses, but it emulates a bios |
| 06:57 | <perk> | Shadow64, you could use debootstrap to prepare the cf card, boot it then do debootstrap second stage |
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| 06:59 | <Shadow64> | also, this thin client doesn't have a real time clock so I'll need to run ntpdate to keep it in sync |
| 06:59 | <Shadow64> | debootstrap? what's that? |
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| 07:00 | <Shadow64> | it has a 233mhz CPU, 96mb ram and just heatsinks for cooling |
| 07:01 | <Shadow64> | I thought I'd install debian for some fun ;) |
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| 07:03 | <Shadow64> | sorry |
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| 07:04 | <Shadow64> | iPhone went to sleep and dropped the connection |
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| 07:05 | <Shadow64> | so, what comes first? initrd or the kernel in terms of loading? |
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| 07:06 | <Marky> | Hello. |
| 07:06 | <Marky> | I have a question re Kerberos and time sync. Could anyone help? |
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| 07:07 | <adb> | Shadow64, kernel |
| 07:07 | <Lethalman_> | Shadow64, the kernel of course |
| 07:07 | <Marky> | Our host server is running on UTC and not local time. If I change this to obtain the correct local time, what happens to the tickets obtained and/or wanted post change? |
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| 07:08 | <Shadow64> | adb: right. thanks for that. what's debbootstrap? |
| 07:09 | <adb> | !debootstrap |
| 07:09 | <dpkg> | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a UNIX/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 07:09 | <Shadow64> | Marky: define tickets |
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| 07:09 | <Marky> | Kerberos tickets to authenticate with. |
| 07:09 | <mhash> | Marky, I am guessing the tickets will remain valid, however, renewal may complain about time skew against the KDC (I am not sure however) |
| 07:09 | <Marky> | That is what I am thinking. |
| 07:10 | <Marky> | But how to resolve the complaint? |
| 07:10 | <bucko_> | Hey guys! My KDE lists local hard drive partitions mounted to /disks/mediaN in "Storage Media" (media:/) and presumably consequently wakes all 11 drives out of power saving when I eject a CDROM. How can I stop this behaviour? |
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| 07:10 | <Marky> | Restart the Kerberos service post time change? |
| 07:10 | <Shadow64> | so, would I get a very minimal debian that would need apt to be installed? |
| 07:10 | <bucko_> | (I want the CDROM autorun functionality; I don't want the drives to wake up on visit to media:/ or CDROM eject/insert) |
| 07:10 | <Lethalman_> | Shadow64, no apt is being installed in the minimal system |
| 07:11 | <mhash> | Marky, might be safest... or try it in a controlled environment before doing so in production |
| 07:11 | <Marky> | Control isn't possible. No spare resources available :-( |
| 07:11 | <bucko_> | (If you know a better place to go, that'd also be helpful.) |
| 07:11 | <Shadow64> | so how world I do about adding apt and such? |
| 07:11 | <Lethalman_> | Shadow64, I don't understand you |
| 07:12 | <Lethalman_> | apt is already installed in that system |
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| 07:12 | <zumbi> | Shadow64: why do not just try it?! |
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| 07:13 | <Shadow64> | I will |
| 07:13 | <adb> | on laptop, ventilator spin every x (< 1) minutes , system is idle 98% , hard drive it is non active (system run all in ram) , but amd processor ;-( where i may look for resolve that ? |
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| 07:14 | <Shadow64> | I'll try it tomorrow, I don't have a spare cf card on me (only the 32mb that came with the client) |
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| 07:16 | <Shadow64> | hm, looks like I'll need to setup gcc and everything to compile the custom kernel. thanks again all, good night |
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| 07:17 | <zumbi> | Shadow64: good night, if it is an embedded device, maybe you want to have a look to emdebian.org |
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| 07:17 | <Shadow64> | gag |
| 07:18 | <Shadow64> | gah* |
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| 07:18 | <Shadow64> | silly iPhone won't sign me off |
| 07:18 | <Shadow64> | laters again all. |
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| 08:19 | <[Elvis]> | hej guys |
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| 08:19 | <[Elvis]> | is it possible to find out if I have 1600 or 2100 ddr memory in box? |
| 08:19 | <[Elvis]> | via debian? |
| 08:20 | <kooll> | you could use hwinfo to find out various info about the ddr |
| 08:20 | <kooll> | might gives you the model number, then you can look for that on the web |
| 08:21 | <petemc> | or possibly dmidecode |
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| 08:24 | <jm_> | ddr 2100? that's be mighty impressive |
| 08:25 | <jm_> | you probably mean PC-2100 |
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| 08:32 | * | peej plays around with hwinfo and dmidecode.... |
| 08:33 | <peej> | maximum cpu internal temperature 127 deg Celsius? Must be Dell. |
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| 09:00 | <maks> | what is the working java plugin for lenny |
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| 09:01 | <maks> | in sid i have icedtea6-plugin, but i don't see this one in lenny |
| 09:01 | <maks> | sun-java6-plugin |
| 09:02 | <maks> | only it seems to fail on netbanking app test |
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| 09:10 | <themill> | maks: make sure you're actually using sun-java6-plugin though. |
| 09:10 | <themill> | !update-java-alternatives |
| 09:10 | <dpkg> | Rather than using update-alternatives (or galternatives) to set each individual alternative for java (and there are lots of them!), use update-java-alternatives. To see a list of the valid java alternatives, use "update-java-alternatives --list". To select the sun-java6 java runtime environment, "update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun". |
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| 09:11 | <jm_> | heh |
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| 09:14 | <maks> | thanks themill |
| 09:14 | <maks> | was actually pointing to java-gcj |
| 09:14 | <jm_> | about:plugins shall tell you what you're using |
| 09:14 | <maks> | so solved :) |
| 09:14 | <maks> | jm_: :) |
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| 09:20 | <jm_> | wow impressive, first time in ages iceweasel doesn't dump 600M+ core file when I quit it |
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| 09:26 | <bgat> | I just did an update to squeeze: |
| 09:26 | <bgat> | "Can't locate English.pm..." |
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| 09:28 | <bgat> | anyone have any ideas how to fix? |
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| 09:37 | <bgat> | Can't locate English.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0...) at /usr/bin/rm line 105. |
| 09:37 | <bgat> | error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libperl5.10_5.10.1-5_amd64.deb |
| 09:38 | <bgat> | is anyone else seeing this? |
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| 09:39 | <bgat> | ls -l /usr/share/perl/5.10.1/English.pm |
| 09:39 | <bgat> | ... root root 4488 2009-10-1 03:23 /usr/share/perl/5.10.1/English.pm |
| 09:40 | <bgat> | hmmm |
| 09:40 | <zumbi> | bgat: not in unstable |
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| 09:40 | <bgat> | ls -l /usr/share/perl |
| 09:40 | <bgat> | 5.10 -> 5.10.0 |
| 09:40 | <bgat> | 5.10 |
| 09:41 | <bgat> | 5.10.0 |
| 09:41 | <bgat> | 5.10.1 |
| 09:41 | <bgat> | English is under 5.10.1, but /usr/share/perl/5.10 is symlinked to 5.10.0, which has no English.pm |
| 09:42 | <zumbi> | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 13 oct 09:37 5.10 -> 5.10.1 |
| 09:42 | <bgat> | zumbi: I don't understand what you are saying |
| 09:42 | <zumbi> | drwxr-xr-x 53 root root 4096 13 oct 09:37 5.10.1 |
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| 09:42 | <zumbi> | bgat: i am running unstable, i do not see your problem there |
| 09:42 | <bgat> | aah |
| 09:42 | <bgat> | ok |
| 09:42 | <bgat> | I wonder what I will f$ck up if I just manually change that symlink? |
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| 09:43 | <zumbi> | not much probably you fix it |
| 09:44 | <bgat> | hmmmm. I just noticed that my /usr/bin/rm is symlinked to 'safe-rm' |
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| 09:44 | <bgat> | ... which is a perl script text executable |
| 09:44 | <zumbi> | file /usr/bin/rm |
| 09:44 | <zumbi> | /usr/bin/rm: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/bin/rm' (No such file or directory) |
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| 09:45 | <ifvoid> | /bin/rm |
| 09:45 | <zumbi> | $ file /bin/rm |
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| 09:46 | <bgat> | so if one has safe-rm installed, there is a /usr/bin/rm that symlinks to that; during a perl upgrade, safe-rm is briefly unavailable |
| 09:46 | <bgat> | yes, I have a /bin/rm |
| 09:46 | <bgat> | but /usr/bin is earlier than /bin in my $PATH |
| 09:47 | <bgat> | so the root cause of my problem here is that safe-rm is broken during perl updates |
| 09:48 | <bgat> | export PATH=/bin:$PATH |
| 09:48 | <bgat> | ... "fixes" the problem |
| 09:48 | <bgat> | ... long enough for the perl update to complete itself |
| 09:50 | <peej> | safe-rm presumably is rm -i. Surely that is not a debian default? |
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| 09:51 | <bgat> | peej: no, it's a tweak applied by the safe-rm package |
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| 09:52 | <bgat> | "safe-rm prevents the accidental deletion of importnat files by replacing rm with a wrapper which cheks the given arguments against a configurable blacklist of files and directories which should never be removed." |
| 09:52 | <bgat> | it's a lifesaver for us ADHD guys. :) |
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| 09:53 | <themill> | !dbugs 550938 |
| 09:54 | <dpkg> | DONE:#550938:G[safe-rm] safe-rm should not fail during a perl upgrade (moreinfo); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:21:02 UTC [550946] |
| 09:55 | * | bgat considers uninstalling safe-rm |
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| 09:59 | <Padrick> | Hi, I am trying to setup a debian repository at work. I have the binary-amd64 part working. It just the binary-all that does not work. The clients do not download the binary-all_Package list. I am bit stumped on this one :(. |
| 09:59 | <magnetic_> | hey guys, since I upgraded kvm to kvm-85 I'm unable to boot Ubuntu Hardy machines, it hangs in "Starting up...". Any hint? |
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| 09:59 | <amunoz> | mnj n m ghkhuyfhfn |
| 10:00 | <Titan8990> | !ubuntu |
| 10:00 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 10:00 | <zumbi> | !mirror |
| 10:00 | <dpkg> | methinks debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 10:00 | <Titan8990> | magnetic_, move to #ubuntu on freenode |
| 10:00 | <amunoz> | aobjh |
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| 10:00 | <themill> | amunoz: do you have a debian user question we can help you with? |
| 10:00 | <amunoz> | çhola |
| 10:00 | <magnetic_> | Titan8990: My host is debian not ubuntu |
| 10:00 | <themill> | !es |
| 10:00 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 10:01 | <amunoz> | espanol |
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| 10:01 | <themill> | amunoz: /join #debian-es |
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| 10:03 | <magnetic_> | Titan8990: since my host is debian, and before upgrading to kvm-85 everything worked ok, I dont see why I should move to #ubuntu, it looks like a regression in debian not in ubuntu |
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| 10:04 | <Titan8990> | judd, versions kvm |
| 10:04 | <judd> | Titan8990: kvm -- etch-backports: 28-4~bpo.1 lenny: 72+dfsg-5~lenny1 lenny-security: 72+dfsg-5~lenny3 squeeze: 72+dfsg-5 lenny-backports: 85+dfsg-4~bpo50+1 sid: 85+dfsg-4.1 |
| 10:04 | <Titan8990> | from backports or sid? |
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| 10:04 | <magnetic_> | 85+dfsg-4.1 |
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| 10:05 | <magnetic_> | obviosuly sid |
| 10:05 | <Hideo> | check the bug reports |
| 10:05 | <Hideo> | kvm in sid has issues |
| 10:06 | <Titan8990> | lol everything is sid as issues |
| 10:06 | <Titan8990> | s/is/in |
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| 10:06 | <Hideo> | say it aint so |
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| 10:07 | <themill> | welcome to sid? |
| 10:07 | <magnetic_> | I've been in sid for almost 7 years :) |
| 10:07 | <magnetic_> | and I havent had many issues |
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| 10:08 | <Hideo> | should know to check bug reports by now >=) |
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| 10:08 | <Titan8990> | magnetic_, you have been very lucky |
| 10:08 | <magnetic_> | Hideo: I did, but it seems I missed it, I'm double checking :) |
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| 10:09 | <magnetic_> | Titan8990: i consider it pretty stable :P |
| 10:09 | <Hideo> | if it aint there, file one, I know kvm in sid has issues w/ booting windows |
| 10:09 | <magnetic_> | Hideo: i have had issues with windows but they are easy to workaround |
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| 10:09 | <magnetic_> | Hideo: this stuff is new |
| 10:09 | <mjt> | magnetic_: which issues in windows? |
| 10:10 | <amunoz> | mnjbbhvc vhvgvbbfgnkh |
| 10:11 | <themill> | amunoz: Por favor: /join #debian-es |
| 10:11 | <zumbi> | amunoz: no seas niño |
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| 10:12 | <Padrick> | From the debian repository I have looked at none of them have the binary-all tree. |
| 10:12 | <magnetic_> | mjt: i had some issues in the past with the no-acpi thing, but maybe it was virt-manager's fault and not kvm, i can't remember now |
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| 10:12 | <mjt> | magnetic_: the no-acpi win2k workaround isn't needed since about kvm-76 |
| 10:13 | <themill> | magnetic_: [15:12] <dutchfish> themill, yep, its solved in 2.6.32-rc4 and 5 it was a kernel issue [on the host] |
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| 10:13 | <mjt> | magnetic_: but in virt-manager you have to explicitly enable acpi |
| 10:13 | <overflow> | I can I work inside a amd64 jail on a i686 debian ? |
| 10:13 | <overflow> | *can I work inside a amd64 jail on a i686 debian ? |
| 10:13 | <mjt> | themill: what it is? |
| 10:14 | <mjt> | overflow: provided the host kernel is actually amd64 |
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| 10:15 | <overflow> | mjt: can I use a amd64 kernel on a 32bit system? |
| 10:15 | <mjt> | sure |
| 10:15 | <mjt> | if youre processor supports it |
| 10:15 | <magnetic_> | mjt: i said *in the past*, and the bug was that even selecting in virt-manager "win2k" when creating the new machine it didnt work. But as i said, that was in the past and easy to workaround |
| 10:15 | <peej> | I'm running su - peej -c "startx & exit" in /etc/rc.local and have set: allowed_users=anybody in Xwrapper.config - this is all to skip xdm and launch a window manager. It runs. But my keyboard autorepeat doesn't kick in at all now. |
| 10:15 | <overflow> | mjt: my processor is 64bit |
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| 10:16 | <mjt> | f.e. linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 10:16 | <mjt> | judd versions linux-image-amd64 |
| 10:16 | <judd> | mjt: linux-image-amd64 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1 sid: 2.6.30+21 squeeze: 2.6.30+21 |
| 10:17 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 412] by debhelper |
| 10:17 | <amunoz> | mnj n m ghkhuyfhfnmono |
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| 10:19 | <peej> | I'm running su - peej -c "startx & exit" in /etc/rc.local and have set: allowed_users=anybody in Xwrapper.config - this is all to skip xdm and launch a window manager. It runs. But my keyboard autorepeat doesn't kick in at all now. kbdrate doesn't change this. Clues? |
| 10:20 | <zumbi> | ctcp version |
| 10:20 | <zumbi> | err |
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| 10:36 | <CyberWolf> | hi |
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| 10:42 | <ese> | hi, pals. I am having a problem with swap partition of not being automatically mounted. |
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| 10:43 | <K0JIbKA1> | hello |
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| 10:43 | <CGI566> | why cron is named cron? |
| 10:44 | <azeem> | CGI566: check wikipedia |
| 10:44 | <azeem> | maybe it's explained there |
| 10:45 | <zumbi> | CGI566: i'd like to guess it has something to do with cronos (time in latin) |
| 10:45 | <CGI566> | umm |
| 10:46 | <git-hi9h> | anyone know what key(s) to press to start the keyboard mouse with gnome accessibility? |
| 10:46 | <icebrain> | CGI566: according to wiki: 'cron' is short for Chronograph. |
| 10:47 | <CGI566> | thx |
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| 10:47 | <zumbi> | !thx |
| 10:47 | <dpkg> | THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks" |
| 10:48 | <ese> | any help plz how i could turn on swap to start during boot time |
| 10:48 | <icebrain> | git-hi9h: http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/stable/gok.html.en |
| 10:49 | <zumbi> | ese: man swapon or maybe you just need to add it to /etc/fstabe |
| 10:49 | <zumbi> | s,fstabe,fstab |
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| 10:49 | <icebrain> | git-hi9h: sorry, that is the mouse controlled keyboard :| |
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| 10:52 | <git-hi9h> | yea, i turned on accessibility, but now howto start the keyboard mouse, i cant find anything - i would imagine you would use the numeric keypad |
| 10:53 | <icebrain> | git-hi9h: http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/stable/dtconfig-mousekeys.html.en |
| 10:53 | <ese> | zumbi: thankyou. But how do i find the swap UUID and edit that to boot automatically. |
| 10:53 | <git-hi9h> | hey it worked - i just neede to re-login |
| 10:53 | <icebrain> | git-hi9h: this is the right one :D |
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| 10:53 | <git-hi9h> | thankx alot |
| 10:54 | <icebrain> | np |
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| 10:55 | <git-hi9h> | my mouse stops working on the linux host after starting virtualbox for some reason - since i setup my usb printer - it works but now my mouse dies |
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| 10:56 | <kop> | ese: You can use "file -s" on the swap device to find the uuid. |
| 10:56 | <zumbi> | ese: i do not understand you exactly, but maybe fdisk -l /dev/sda will tell you you have the swap under /dev/sda5, then you need an entry to /etc/fstab, which says: /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0 |
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| 10:57 | <zumbi> | ese: my UUID for swap is lots of zeros |
| 10:58 | <kop> | zumbi: Mine too. But if I cared I could turn off that swap partition and re-run mkswap. |
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| 10:58 | <ese> | zumbi: yes well what i wanted is that to add the swap by its UUID and make it auto mount during boot time. |
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| 11:07 | <ese> | Zumbi: kop and zumbi, thankyou for your help. I got the command that lists by UUID and by label as well as by id. Its "ls -l /dev/disk/*". It is much helpful. |
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| 11:29 | <Zathraz> | I am playing around with Samba & openLdap. According to an Ubuntu (I am using Debian Lenny) Howto I should install a package called "auth-client-config". There seems to be no such thing in Lenny? Or is it called something else? |
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| 11:32 | <ahmed73> | salve |
| 11:33 | <ahmed73> | ho un piccoloproblema |
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| 11:39 | <cahoot> | !it |
| 11:39 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 11:48 | <juliana> | hola |
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| 12:05 | <McE> | hi - getting troubles of installing wifi, iwlist scan says: wlan0 - network is down. any help? |
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| 12:06 | <notrev> | McE, try # ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 12:07 | <McE> | notrev- thanks, helped. |
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| 12:17 | <Woet> | Has someone ever managed to get nginx to use memcached? |
| 12:19 | <Woet> | whenever I use it all the files get a 404 |
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| 12:34 | <egamonal> | hi, I have amarok2 with gnome and the font looks awfull |
| 12:34 | <egamonal> | I tried to configure QT4 settings but it ignores everything related to fonts |
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| 12:34 | <egamonal> | there is no solution on google |
| 12:34 | <egamonal> | does anyone have a hint? |
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| 12:35 | <dr|z3d> | egamonal: vnc? |
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| 12:35 | <egamonal> | dr|z3d, are you serious? |
| 12:36 | <jhg> | Where is the best place to request help? |
| 12:36 | <dr|z3d> | egamonal: Sorry, I should have asked a better question. Are you using vnc? Because that's known to screw fonts. Otherwise, 1 second.. |
| 12:36 | <egamonal> | haha ok :P |
| 12:36 | <dr|z3d> | jhg: Depends on the question.. |
| 12:36 | <egamonal> | no, i'm not using vnc |
| 12:36 | <dr|z3d> | Ok, 1 sec. |
| 12:37 | <jhg> | dr|z3d: I've installed debian on a computer and the drivers for graphics aren't working properly |
| 12:37 | <dr|z3d> | jhg: What adapter/chipset? |
| 12:37 | <jhg> | http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Barebone/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2016 |
| 12:37 | <jhg> | Intel® 845GV / ICH4 chipsets |
| 12:37 | <jhg> | I can change tty's and then the monitor works |
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| 12:37 | <jhg> | but I can't boot into a desktop interface |
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| 12:39 | <jhg> | dr|z3d: I think its drivers but I've no idea :P |
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| 12:39 | <dr|z3d> | egamonal: Can't find the tool offhand, but there _is_ a tool to configure QT apps in Gnome. |
| 12:39 | <dr|z3d> | That's a good place to start. |
| 12:39 | <egamonal> | yes, i'm using it |
| 12:39 | <dr|z3d> | Gnome/Gtk |
| 12:39 | <dr|z3d> | Oh? And no joy? |
| 12:39 | <egamonal> | no joy :( |
| 12:39 | <egamonal> | what's more, it looks like it's a known bug |
| 12:39 | <dr|z3d> | egamonal: Another quesetion. Got sub-pixel antialiasing switched on in Gnome? |
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| 12:40 | <egamonal> | let me check it |
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| 12:40 | <egamonal> | no subpixel AA |
| 12:40 | <dr|z3d> | Try enabling it. |
| 12:40 | <egamonal> | it's "best shape AA" |
| 12:41 | <egamonal> | ok |
| 12:41 | <egamonal> | the playlist is being shown in the correct font |
| 12:41 | <egamonal> | not the whole amarok ^^' |
| 12:42 | <dr|z3d> | Ok, so that's an improvement? |
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| 12:42 | <egamonal> | I hope so, but I didn't have a playlist before |
| 12:43 | <egamonal> | damn, and the sound isn't working, either |
| 12:43 | <egamonal> | i think it stopped working yesterday |
| 12:44 | <egamonal> | but gmail chat makes a noise when someone talks to me and i can hear it |
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| 12:45 | <jhg> | HI I am trying to install debian lenny onto a Gigabyte Mini PC (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Barebone/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2016) The installer works fine but the system is unable to boot into a graphical desktop. I get a black screen but can switch tty and the console works. |
| 12:46 | <dr|z3d> | egamonal: Another possible.. try exaile.. it's feature equivalent to amarok +-, and it's gtk-based. |
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| 12:47 | <egamonal> | i'll try it, but the sound doesn't work even with Songbird :( |
| 12:47 | <egamonal> | too much trouble today |
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| 13:00 | <marcowitsch> | Hi, I've problems getting connected with zte mf636 USB modem. I used usb_modeswitch to switch to modem-mode. The devices /dev/ttyUSB[012] are enabled and the modem is found under /dev/ttyUSB1 (!?). Now I tried to connect via umtsmon, gnome PPP and wvdial but no success. |
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| 13:26 | <tHW> | Hello |
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| 13:27 | <tHW> | I don't know if this is the right channel but I have a problem |
| 13:27 | <tHW> | Can I get some help |
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| 13:29 | <No1> | tHW, ask it and some1 will try :) |
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| 13:30 | <tHW> | I need a grafitti font for sidux for a GIMP tutorial how do I install one? |
| 13:30 | <tHW> | apt-cache search font |
| 13:30 | <tHW> | ? |
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| 13:31 | <tHW> | For being 385 the reply speed is very low |
| 13:31 | <nicaise974> | salut |
| 13:31 | <tHW> | Hola! |
| 13:31 | <comboz0r> | que tal |
| 13:32 | <comboz0r> | quieres instalar fuentes? |
| 13:32 | <chealer> | tHW: wrong channel, this is for Debian support |
| 13:32 | <nicaise974> | habla francia |
| 13:32 | <tHW> | Sidux is Debian in some way I've heard |
| 13:32 | <chealer> | !tell nicaise974 about fr |
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| 13:33 | <tHW> | LoL wut? |
| 13:33 | <tHW> | !tell chealer about fr |
| 13:34 | <tHW> | Nothing happned |
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| 13:36 | <No1> | if he looked there is a channel called #sidux |
| 13:37 | <No1> | :( |
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| 13:54 | <bja> | icebrain: Things are working fine with the wifi now, i had a commit missing at the end, it seems broadcom needs that little part |
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| 13:55 | <bja> | icebrain: thx for the advice on wicd |
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| 14:14 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a way I can make a multiarch USB stick supporting at least i386 and amd64? |
| 14:16 | <Lethalman> | EmleyMoor, just do it i386, amd64 can run i386 |
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| 14:18 | <EmleyMoor> | Lethalman: Hmmm... maybe |
| 14:18 | <EmleyMoor> | Just puzzled really as to how multiarch CDs work |
| 14:19 | <Guest1388> | hi i got an issue with pulseaudio in kde4 |
| 14:19 | <Guest1388> | anyone can help me? |
| 14:19 | <Guest1388> | in can't configure in to work with phonon |
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| 14:20 | <EmleyMoor> | What happens when you try? That's a lot more useful... |
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| 14:21 | <Guest1388> | simply i can't get multiple audio outputs |
| 14:21 | <Guest1388> | so i got to install pulse |
| 14:21 | <Guest1388> | i didi it |
| 14:21 | <Guest1388> | but i can't use it with phonon-xine |
| 14:22 | <EmleyMoor> | Is that "I don't know how" or "I know how but it doesn't work"? |
| 14:23 | <Guest1388> | i know how to configure phonon and gstreamer but trough kde systemsettings |
| 14:23 | <Guest1388> | there is no way to get pulse audio working |
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| 14:23 | <Guest1388> | even tough pulseaudio server is running |
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| 15:15 | <Hamael> | woa, lots og users |
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| 15:31 | <StyXman> | does anyone happend to have python-qt4-dev v 4.5.4-1? I tried to pick it from http://snapshot.debian.net/, but is completely empty. can anyone dpkg-repack it? |
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| 15:39 | <ghostkernel> | hey guys im unable to get sound on Zsnes super nintendo emulator any idea what it can be? |
| 15:40 | <ghostkernel> | alsa sound is apperently running fine according to the terminal |
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| 15:51 | <Jenny_323> | hi, how can I extract a string between to words out of a text in bash / perl ? |
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| 15:51 | <Titan8990> | Jenny_323, #bash or #perl on freenode |
| 15:52 | <Jenny_323> | e.g. Token1="text text text text" Token2= >>> I only want text text text text |
| 15:52 | <Jenny_323> | ok |
| 15:52 | <dkr> | Jenny_323: echo foobarbaz|perl -ne'print $1 if /foo(.*)baz/' |
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| 15:53 | <dkr> | actually if they are separated like that, you could use cut -f2 -d" |
| 15:53 | <Jenny_323> | sory... could you take my eexample for better understanding ? |
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| 15:53 | <Jenny_323> | plz |
| 15:53 | <dkr> | cut splits on a delimiter, in this case " |
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| 15:54 | <dkr> | echo 'Token1="text text text text" Token2=' |cut -f2 -d\" |
| 15:55 | <McE> | ho |
| 15:55 | <Jenny_323> | ok it works but, there are more than one strin in line so it stops after the first one |
| 15:56 | <Jenny_323> | I used the cut example |
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| 15:58 | <Ethan> | I don't really know bash, but the regex method should catch them all. |
| 15:59 | <graf> | hi... can anybody tell me why there is slim (simple login manager) for stable and unstable but not for testing? |
| 16:00 | <Jenny_323> | language doesn''t matter also perl are welcome ... |
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| 16:00 | <Ethan> | Am I right in thinking that all you want to remove is the quotes? |
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| 16:00 | <locklace> | graf: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=slim |
| 16:00 | <wnd> | ... | perl -e 'undef $/; $_ = <>; print "$_\n" foreach (/"(.*?)"/g)' |
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| 16:01 | <wnd> | but really, this isn't the right channel. besides you'll get better help if you tell what you're /really/ trying to do. |
| 16:02 | <Jenny_323> | there is a text wich contains urls and I want to grap them the first token is ACTION=" and the second is " METHODE= |
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| 16:03 | <Jenny_323> | e.g. ACTION="http://example.com" METHOD="POST" ... ACTION="http://example2.com" METHOD="POST" |
| 16:04 | <Jenny_323> | so I need to extract the link |
| 16:05 | <Ethan> | while (/ACTION="(.*?)" METHOD=/sg) {print "$1\n"}, then? |
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| 16:05 | <aj_> | hey to all |
| 16:05 | <aj_> | :D |
| 16:06 | <aj_> | i just installed the backtrack lol |
| 16:06 | <aj_> | its cool |
| 16:06 | <aj_> | hehe |
| 16:06 | <aj_> | i liked it |
| 16:06 | <aj_> | :D |
| 16:06 | <graf> | locklace: thanks for the link... i still don't fully understand why such a thing can happen... but well, i guess that there bugs in the stable versions (and since it was in stable it can be removed) and they are fixed in testing... |
| 16:06 | <aj_> | but i need ur help guys pls |
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| 16:07 | <peej> | aj_, please try and sound less retarded and ask the question |
| 16:07 | <wnd> | !enter |
| 16:07 | <dpkg> | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 16:07 | <wnd> | !ask |
| 16:07 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:07 | <Titan8990> | aj_, this is the debian support room, you are looking for #remote-exploit |
| 16:07 | <aj_> | oh thanks |
| 16:07 | <Titan8990> | aj_, if you are a new linux user, expect little to no help |
| 16:07 | <aj_> | can u help me how i can add it |
| 16:08 | <Titan8990> | aj_, /server irc.freenode.net /join #remote-exploit |
| 16:08 | <aj_> | lol i worked on ubuntu ;)) |
| 16:08 | <Titan8990> | aj_, that doesn't count |
| 16:08 | <aj_> | lol |
| 16:08 | <locklace> | actually it does...in the other direction |
| 16:08 | <aj_> | but no one start expert |
| 16:08 | <aj_> | ;)) |
| 16:09 | <aj_> | guess every one start from zero and learn :) |
| 16:09 | <aj_> | right my friend ? |
| 16:09 | <aj_> | :D |
| 16:09 | <peej> | aj_, a good place to start is http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 16:10 | <aj_> | thank you peej :X |
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| 16:14 | <Jenny_323> | Ethan, doesn''t work for me :( |
| 16:16 | <steffan> | !doesnt work |
| 16:16 | <dpkg> | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 16:18 | <edbian> | Why is it that gnome system monitor reports that I'm using 157MB of ram but the "free" command reports that I'm using 630MB ? |
| 16:19 | <Titan8990> | maybe its only showing RAM usage of your current user? |
| 16:19 | <jackyf> | edbian: caches/buffers probably |
| 16:19 | <edbian> | jackyf: I'm running preload might that have something to do with it? |
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| 16:20 | <Jenny_323> | @ steffan - bash: syntax error near unexpected token `{print' |
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| 16:20 | <steffan> | Jenny_323: What are you trying to do? |
| 16:21 | <Jenny_323> | there is a text wich contains urls and I want to grap them the first token is ACTION=" and the second is " METHODE= |
| 16:21 | <Jenny_323> | e.g. ACTION="http://example.com" METHOD="POST" ... ACTION="http://example2.com" METHOD="POST" |
| 16:21 | <jackyf> | edbian: this is not an issue, that's a feature |
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| 16:21 | <jackyf> | you haven't do anything with it |
| 16:22 | <Ethan> | I suggest you put the perl in a separate file to avoid confusing bash with it. |
| 16:22 | <steffan> | What perl? |
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| 16:22 | <edbian> | jackyf: I know! :) It's great |
| 16:24 | <Ethan> | steffa |
| 16:24 | <Ethan> | steffan: I suggested a perl thing to Jenny_323, but she had a shell error with it. |
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| 16:27 | <Jenny_323> | Ethan, while (/ACTION="(.*?)" METHOD=/sg) {print "$1\n"} - how would you use it to filter example.txt |
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| 17:15 | <unobin> | hola |
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| 17:15 | <steffan> | unobin: Hi |
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| 17:23 | <erick> | Hi |
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| 17:24 | <Ethan> | Jenny_323: "man perlintro" is probably the best way to procede if you are unfamiliar with perl. |
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| 17:37 | <what__> | Ethan, +5 internets - didnt know that existed! |
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| 17:41 | <n3lab> | usa! usa! |
| 17:44 | <jaggz1> | what exactly is the -12v sensor? |
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| 17:45 | <jaggz1> | and why is it at 3.x, and in high temp times of the day it goes to 3.9 and i'm scared |
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| 17:48 | <jaggz1> | with the air conditioner on in the room, just 5 degrees cooler or so, it goes down to 3.3v |
| 17:48 | <jaggz1> | I keep raising the ksensors alert level but that seems risky |
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| 17:51 | <mjt> | jaggz1: it looks like you need to configure your sensors |
| 17:52 | <mjt> | it labels the sensor as "-12v", but it's clearly mis-labelled or mis-calculated |
| 17:52 | <mjt> | see /etc/sensors.conf |
| 17:52 | <mjt> | the system can't work at all if actual voltage on -12v rails is 3.3v |
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| 17:54 | <laxe> | mamones |
| 17:54 | <jaggz1> | is there somewhere I can cat (proc file for instance) the sensors? |
| 17:54 | <jaggz1> | to get a list without clicking through the ksensors config |
| 17:54 | <laxe> | you are crazy |
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| 17:54 | <mjt> | /sys/class/hwmon/*/device/ |
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| 17:55 | <mjt> | and there's `sensors' utility as well |
| 17:55 | <mjt> | see http://lm-sensors.org/ |
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| 17:56 | <mjt> | basically, each motherboard model and revision needs some calibration/tweaking befor the levels reported are actually useful. |
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| 17:59 | <jakse> | hi all installing lenny on eee 1000... think normal gui is too big? any suggestions to what gui to install? |
| 17:59 | <jaggz1> | http://miralh.voyager.com/s.html |
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| 18:01 | <jaggz1> | that's sensors output.. it looks like I have multiple 3.3 sensors or something? |
| 18:02 | <jaggz1> | I guess if there's vbat that could be another thing.. but chances are it's related to the fans moving faster during higher heat |
| 18:02 | <mjt> | it's what i said. your sensors needs proper calibration first |
| 18:02 | <mjt> | it's all wrong |
| 18:02 | <jaggz1> | jakse, let me know when you find out -- I'm probably going to be buying a netbook soon too, and it seems the eee is best supported right? |
| 18:02 | <mjt> | both mislabelled and miscalculated |
| 18:03 | <mjt> | try reading the hwmon files directly |
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| 18:03 | <jaggz1> | oh it can calibrate too? interesting .. didn't see that sentence, thanks |
| 18:03 | <mjt> | but even that wont help with proper labelling |
| 18:03 | <mjt> | it's all described in full details in sensors.conf |
| 18:03 | <jakse> | i use lxde on this one... eee701 works great ,... but would like some plug and play ;) |
| 18:03 | <jaggz1> | okay, thank you very much.. I wish I didn't have to deal with this now as I was working on something that I had to get done in the day... |
| 18:04 | <jaggz1> | no plug and play support for what? |
| 18:04 | <mjt> | jaggz1: my real advise to you is to stop taking attention to the voltage levels altogether |
| 18:06 | <jaggz1> | that sounds nice :) the last psu was 360 watt but I replaced it with an, old, from another computer, 480 watt |
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| 18:15 | <AdysoNe> | Bonsoir |
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| 18:22 | <Ethan> | I have a problem. I've just installed Debian on a hard disk, but when I try to boot it it says "kernel |
| 18:22 | <Ethan> | the install disk, it says that the file is there. What can I do to make it boot? |
| 18:23 | <yuri_> | It says "kernel" thats it? |
| 18:23 | <Ethan> | I'll try that again. |
| 18:23 | <Ethan> | I have a problem. I've just installed Debian on a hard disk, but when I try to boot it it says "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdb1 ro", "error 15: File not found". If I run a shell from the install disk, it says that the file is there. What can I do to make it boot? |
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| 18:28 | <ga_bash> | hello what package does the python development library resides? python-dev?? |
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| 18:38 | <Migi> | hi |
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| 19:05 | <adama> | !qotd0 |
| 19:05 | <dpkg> | <florian> how can i make sound faster and more stable? <greycat> sound? *faster*? <greycat> you want to hear chipmunks? |
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| 19:31 | <pavlis> | hi there.. can i ask a q? i have just installed debian lenny and i have 2 problems. 1st: i cant see some folders on my usb hard disk and 2nd: i cant unrar files (i installed unrar-free) |
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| 19:43 | <valdyn> | paveq: some rar files just dont with with unrar-free |
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| 19:46 | <paveq> | :P |
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| 20:19 | <danielvieceli> | opa |
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| 20:19 | <danielvieceli> | algem usa freeraius ai? |
| 20:19 | <Hideo> | !pt |
| 20:19 | <dpkg> | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 20:21 | <danielvieceli> | ok thanks |
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| 20:21 | <Vyrus001> | do i use ia64 on a xeon chip? |
| 20:21 | <Vyrus001> | or just 386? |
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| 20:22 | <hidr0> | how can i find out what video card my computer has on debian lenny? |
| 20:22 | <Vyrus001> | hidr0 lspci |
| 20:23 | <hidr0> | any quick way to install proper drivers for nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 140M (rev a1)?? |
| 20:23 | <Vyrus001> | ooh quadro nice |
| 20:24 | <Vyrus001> | um... i THINK the nvidia standard debian method would work |
| 20:24 | <Vyrus001> | not sure though, might wana do some googelin |
| 20:24 | <hidr0> | yea thanks |
| 20:24 | <Vyrus001> | yea if anything just use the wiki for nvidia drivers "the debian way" |
| 20:25 | <sney> | Quadro NVS a) isn't nice and b) has no 3D support, so you can just use the standard xorg "nv" driver |
| 20:26 | <sney> | hidr0: ^ |
| 20:26 | <sney> | Vyrus001: for a xeon chip, if it's recent, you use amd64. if it's older, x86. ia64 is for itanium only. |
| 20:27 | <sney> | x86 will work either way. |
| 20:27 | <Vyrus001> | sney: gocha, these are dell 1u's |
| 20:28 | <hidr0> | its built into my Lenovo T61.. not much i can do about it but thanks |
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| 20:30 | <sney> | hidr0: actually I was wrong, never mind. Quadro NVS used to be 2d-only business graphics, but nvidia changed their minds it seems. you should be able to install nvidia 3d drivers the debian way, ask dpkg about nvidia or go to http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 20:31 | <hidr0> | thanks a lot |
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| 20:35 | <chealer> | hidr0: depends on what you mean by "proper" drivers. the free nv driver is quick to install |
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| 20:40 | <icebrain> | /j #debian-pt |
| 20:41 | <icebrain> | ops, sorry :) |
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| 20:53 | <hidr0> | nvidia driver installed worked like a charm... thanks a lot |
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| 21:09 | <julian> | "as",[["adverbio","as","like"],["preposición","as","like","by way of","qua"],["conjunción","as"]] |
| 21:09 | <julian> | hi |
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| 21:09 | <julian> | 'hello' |
| 21:09 | <julian> | 'hi all' |
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| 21:09 | <sensiblethief> | server irc.Mildnet.Org |
| 21:09 | <sensiblethief> | ./server irc.Mildnet.Org |
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| 21:12 | <fleas> | Hi I am scared of this debian linux. I just got it. |
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| 21:13 | <fleas> | it was pretty easy to install, but getting my internet wireless working was hard. |
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| 21:13 | <fleas> | I think I know why you guys all like linux now. |
| 21:14 | <fleas> | but how do I get firefox browser on it? |
| 21:14 | <dpalacio> | fleas: it is called «iceweasel» in debian |
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| 21:14 | <franki^> | apt-get install iceweasel |
| 21:14 | <fleas> | why? |
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| 21:14 | <fleas> | I mean, why is it called that? |
| 21:15 | <dpalacio> | google iceweasel debian |
| 21:15 | <dondelelcaro> | !why iceweasel |
| 21:15 | <dpkg> | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 21:15 | <fleas> | ahhh |
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| 21:16 | <fleas> | franki^: thank you. |
| 21:17 | <fleas> | Linux bastard 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 06:06:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:17 | <fleas> | this is so cool. |
| 21:17 | <fleas> | I'm reading a linux beginners book as I'm talking here. |
| 21:18 | <fleas> | So what should I do next, after I installed this? I mean, what are the cool programs I should learn first? |
| 21:19 | <fleas> | dfsg |
| 21:19 | <franki^> | well, learning about apt and its functions is always useful, but that really depends entirely on what you want to do |
| 21:20 | <fleas> | not sure, I just want to learn linux (I don't knwo really what that means yet) |
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| 21:20 | <fleas> | I know a bit about apt. |
| 21:20 | <fleas> | it's in my book. |
| 21:21 | <fleas> | but I don't have yum on this computer.. it keeps saying "yum install something" |
| 21:21 | <fleas> | or apt-get install something |
| 21:21 | <faheem> | fleas: yum is rpm based. similar concept to apt |
| 21:21 | <fleas> | aha! |
| 21:22 | <fleas> | I just did apt-get install yum |
| 21:22 | <fleas> | and it worked. |
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| 21:22 | <fleas> | apt,yum, bash, man there is so much to learn |
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| 21:22 | <fleas> | but the coolest thing ever is that when I went to goodbye-microsoft.com it easily installed linux. |
| 21:22 | <fleas> | that's so funny to me. |
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| 21:23 | <julian> | hi |
| 21:23 | <faheem> | fleas: er, you don't want to try to use yum to manage your debian system. :-) |
| 21:23 | <fleas> | my dad uses linux at work.. so I wanted to surprise him. |
| 21:23 | <fleas> | he's going to be really excited that I did it. |
| 21:23 | <fleas> | faheem what do you mean |
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| 21:24 | <icebrain> | Debian doesn't use yum |
| 21:24 | <fleas> | did I do something wrong already? |
| 21:24 | <fleas> | I installed it with apt. |
| 21:24 | <fleas> | how do I erase it? |
| 21:24 | <faheem> | fleas: no, it's harmless to install it |
| 21:24 | <faheem> | just don't use it to manage your system. |
| 21:25 | <faheem> | ie don't install stuff using it. |
| 21:25 | <faheem> | assuming that is even possible. |
| 21:25 | <fleas> | I'm confused, I didn't know it managed my system. |
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| 21:25 | <fleas> | I thought it was for installed apps. |
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| 21:25 | <fleas> | like the iphone app store, kinda. |
| 21:25 | <faheem> | fleas: no, yum can be used to manage rpm based systems eg. fedora |
| 21:25 | <julian> | hi |
| 21:25 | <fleas> | hi |
| 21:25 | <julian> | hi |
| 21:25 | <julian> | hi |
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| 21:25 | <fleas> | I don't even know what that means. |
| 21:26 | <fleas> | rpm based systems |
| 21:26 | <julian> | 'as are' |
| 21:26 | <fleas> | I've only been on linux for like an hour. |
| 21:26 | <faheem> | fleas: rpm is the low level packaage manager. similer to dpkg |
| 21:26 | <julian> | 'I've only been on Linux for like an hour. \" |
| 21:26 | <fleas> | omg, I got a lot to learn. |
| 21:26 | <faheem> | fleas: suggest you do some reading. the web has lots of stuff. |
| 21:26 | <faheem> | if you are interested in debian, start with www.debian.org |
| 21:27 | <faheem> | not sure what beginner stuff it has on it, though. |
| 21:27 | <fleas> | faheem, well I just wanted to install it on my laptop and show my dad when he gets home from work that I did it by myself. |
| 21:27 | <Lillymon> | It seems I've been stopped from installing Debian again due to yet more stupidity. I tried to install Debian Squeeze from a USB drive installer, chose the graphical option, then found fbgtk just crashed over and over. So I do some more reading, try again, and find the installer appears to have saved fbgtk as the default option and no longer asks me. |
| 21:27 | <faheem> | fleas: ok. |
| 21:27 | <Lillymon> | So now it only uses fbgtk. The fbgtk that does nothing but crash. I'm going to have reformat the drive now. |
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| 21:30 | <Lillymon> | So, what will happen next? Will the flash drive break? Will the text installer somehow fail? I'm wondering what else is left to go wrong now. |
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| 21:38 | <fleas> | is there a linux chat room for kids? |
| 21:38 | <fleas> | or beginners? |
| 21:39 | <fleas> | and how do I get there from here. |
| 21:39 | <sney> | we help a lot of beginners here, and we try to keep it family friendly |
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| 21:39 | <fleas> | thaks. |
| 21:39 | <fleas> | thanks. |
| 21:40 | <fleas> | I tried the top command but I do understand it. |
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| 21:40 | <fleas> | my book is hard to understand. |
| 21:40 | <abrotman> | do or do not ? |
| 21:40 | <fleas> | I do not. |
| 21:40 | <abrotman> | what about it do you not understand ? |
| 21:41 | <fleas> | well all of it, but the first line |
| 21:41 | <fleas> | all the numbers. I don't know what they mean. |
| 21:41 | <abrotman> | man top .. it explains the numbers |
| 21:41 | <fleas> | man? |
| 21:41 | <sney> | man is how you read the manual |
| 21:41 | <fleas> | how do I man it? |
| 21:42 | <sney> | linux can teach you all about itself, provided you aren't afraid of a little reading. |
| 21:42 | <fleas> | oh that is crazy |
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| 21:42 | <sney> | I learned most of this stuff on an old dell laptop with no internet connection and no gui, just reading the man pages and a book I had |
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| 21:43 | <sney> | I was about 14 when I started |
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| 21:44 | <fleas> | that is really confusing |
| 21:44 | <abrotman> | !docs |
| 21:44 | <dpkg> | Before asking, please read the documentation. Documentation isn't always easy to read, but that doesn't excuse you from (a) trying and (b) sending patches to improve the docs. If you don't do this, expect to be told to RTFM by impatient volunteers. Dick Brandon said that "Documentation is like sex: When it is good, it is very, very, good. And when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Ask me about <finding docs>. |
| 21:44 | <abrotman> | eh .. |
| 21:44 | <abrotman> | debian.org/doc |
| 21:44 | <fleas> | I am 11. |
| 21:44 | <fleas> | but my dad is a programmer and I have seen him use linux |
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| 21:45 | <fleas> | that's how I learned about it. |
| 21:45 | <fleas> | or am learning about it. |
| 21:45 | <sney> | there's also www.tldp.org that has a lot of general information |
| 21:45 | <fleas> | I want to be a programmer to. |
| 21:45 | <fleas> | too. |
| 21:46 | <fleas> | for some reason I can't start my iceweasel |
| 21:46 | <sney> | it's good to start young with this stuff, you learn more quickly when your brain isn't developed all the way |
| 21:46 | <fleas> | when I click it in applications list nothing happens but a little circle that spins. |
| 21:47 | <sney> | try running it as 'firefox' from the terminal |
| 21:48 | <fleas> | firefox command no found. |
| 21:48 | <fleas> | not |
| 21:48 | <abrotman> | iceweasel |
| 21:48 | <fleas> | oh |
| 21:48 | <faheem> | fleas: apt-get install iceweasel |
| 21:48 | <sney> | on my system it's aliased to firefox, weird. |
| 21:48 | <fleas> | how do I copy it. |
| 21:49 | <fleas> | it says can't execute iceweasel-bin |
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| 21:49 | <fleas> | what does that mean? |
| 21:49 | <faheem> | sney: earlier release probably |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | aptitude install ... |
| 21:49 | <faheem> | fleas: do you know how to become root? |
| 21:49 | <faheem> | did you create a user for yourself? |
| 21:50 | <fleas> | root is super user right? |
| 21:50 | <faheem> | fleas: correct |
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| 21:50 | <faheem> | are you using the command line? |
| 21:50 | <faheem> | or shell, whatever |
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| 21:50 | <fleas> | In my book it says I should not use it but use sudo to install packages |
| 21:51 | <faheem> | fleas: either way. |
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| 21:51 | <faheem> | you don't want to use root as a general thing, but ok to switch to root occasionally |
| 21:51 | <faheem> | fleas: you have sudo installed and configured? |
| 21:51 | <faheem> | sudo has the advantage that it logs all the commands you issue as sudo |
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| 21:52 | <fleas> | I'm in terminal |
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| 21:52 | <fleas> | run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /usr/bin/iceweasel-bin. |
| 21:52 | <fleas> | that is what happens |
| 21:52 | <faheem> | fleas: i really suggest you take this one step at a time. |
| 21:52 | <fleas> | I did sudo apt-get install ice-weasel |
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| 21:52 | <faheem> | fleas: ok. did it work? |
| 21:53 | <fleas> | but I need a firefox |
| 21:53 | <fleas> | yes it worked |
| 21:53 | <fleas> | I think |
| 21:53 | <faheem> | fleas: iceweaseal same as firefox. trademark issues |
| 21:54 | <fleas> | how do I re-install it. I might have close the terminal window while it was installing. |
| 21:54 | <abrotman> | fleas: which version of debian is this ? |
| 21:54 | <fleas> | lenny |
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| 21:55 | <fleas> | I removed it |
| 21:55 | <fleas> | and am re-install it now. |
| 21:56 | <fleas> | uhm |
| 21:56 | <fleas> | No protocol specified |
| 21:56 | <fleas> | Error: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| 21:57 | <fleas> | that's what it says when I type iceweasel at terminal |
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| 21:57 | <fleas> | I'm in terminal |
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| 21:58 | <MJD> | fleas: is your terminal running inside of X? |
| 21:58 | <fleas> | X ? |
| 21:58 | <fleas> | I don't know what that means. |
| 21:59 | <MJD> | fleas: Is your whole screen the console, or is the console running inside a window? |
| 21:59 | <fleas> | on the top I see buttons and it says applications places system and more buttons I got terminal from applications |
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| 22:00 | <fleas> | there is two of them, root terminal and terminal. I have terminal. |
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| 22:00 | <fleas> | I don't have console. |
| 22:00 | <fleas> | do I need that one? |
| 22:00 | <abrotman> | he's trying to run it as root |
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| 22:01 | <MJD> | fleas: Sorry. I meant terminal, not console. |
| 22:01 | <fleas> | no I have no root |
| 22:01 | <fleas> | I have sudo |
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| 22:01 | <fleas> | but I used sudo apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 22:01 | <fleas> | then I type my password |
| 22:01 | <MJD> | fleas: What if you click the the web browser from the applications menu? |
| 22:02 | <fleas> | it spins a circle and nothing happens, it goes away. |
| 22:02 | <MJD> | fleas: It still does that after reinstalling it? |
| 22:02 | <fleas> | yes. |
| 22:03 | <fleas> | I think I broke something. |
| 22:03 | <fleas> | please don't ask what, because I don't know. |
| 22:03 | <fleas> | but it is not working |
| 22:03 | <fleas> | the earth button works but thats not firefox |
| 22:04 | <fleas> | or iceweasel |
| 22:04 | <MJD> | fleas: If you open a new terminal and run iceweasel, what does it say then? |
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| 22:04 | <fleas> | my dad is going to be home soon, I'm sure he can fix it. |
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| 22:05 | <faheem> | fleas: did you figure out IRC by yourself, or did someone show you? |
| 22:05 | <fleas> | I open new terminal window |
| 22:06 | <fleas> | I have used mirc with my dad |
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| 22:06 | <fleas> | and I type sudo apt-get install isrrc from my book and it told me to /join #debian |
| 22:06 | <fleas> | fleas@bastard:~$ iceweasel |
| 22:07 | <faheem> | fleas: i see. i take it your dad used debian |
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| 22:07 | <fleas> | No protocol specified |
| 22:07 | <fleas> | Error: cannot open display: :0.0 |
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| 22:07 | <fleas> | my dad has freebsd and debian and one other linux |
| 22:07 | <faheem> | fleas: what kind of terminal is this? |
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| 22:08 | <faheem> | what does: "echo $DISPLAY" show? |
| 22:08 | <fleas> | i clicked terminal in applications accessories |
| 22:08 | <fleas> | echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:08 | <fleas> | nothing. |
| 22:09 | <fleas> | I mean it shows :0.0 |
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| 22:09 | <fleas> | that's it two zeros |
| 22:09 | <faheem> | fleas: not an expert on this, but i think :0 is normal for a local display |
| 22:10 | <faheem> | anyone care to chim in? |
| 22:10 | <faheem> | chime, sorry |
| 22:10 | <MJD> | yes, :0.0 is the usual for a single display computer. |
| 22:10 | <fleas> | should I reboot |
| 22:11 | <faheem> | MJD: really? I have :0 |
| 22:11 | <MJD> | :0 is the first xserver, and the .0 means the first screen (as far i understand it, .1, .2 would be other screens if you don't use xinerama, but I don't know for sure.) |
| 22:11 | <MJD> | faheem: :0 is the same as :0.0 |
| 22:11 | <fleas> | I use laptop |
| 22:11 | <fleas> | it's HP pavillion xt3000 |
| 22:11 | <MJD> | mines :0 too. but :0.0 should be the same. |
| 22:11 | <faheem> | MJD: maybe it is my dual monitor display. |
| 22:12 | <fleas> | I installed linux from goodbye-microsoft.com |
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| 22:12 | <fleas> | it made debian on my disk drive. |
| 22:12 | <faheem> | fleas: you didn't use the debian installer? |
| 22:12 | <faheem> | fleas: you can download debian installation disks from debian.org |
| 22:12 | <faheem> | there is a link on the main page |
| 22:12 | <fleas> | I don't have a cd drive in this laptop. |
| 22:13 | <faheem> | fleas: you can use a usb key |
| 22:13 | <faheem> | you have a usb drive? |
| 22:13 | <fleas> | but goodbye-microsoft.com installs the installer on my disk drive then I clicked thru the install |
| 22:13 | <MJD> | faheem: When I multiple screens, I mean independent displays that you can't move windows between them. |
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| 22:13 | <faheem> | these days you might be even able to run it off the hard disk, but i don't keep up with this stuff |
| 22:13 | <fleas> | it did it itself mostly, I just clicked defaults. |
| 22:14 | <fleas> | my dad is home. |
| 22:14 | <fleas> | I hear his car |
| 22:14 | <fleas> | thanks for all your help |
| 22:14 | <fleas> | bye |
| 22:14 | <MJD> | fleas: np. |
| 22:15 | <faheem> | MJD: i see. |
| 22:15 | <faheem> | why do you think i have :0 instead of :0.0? |
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| 22:16 | <MJD> | I have no idea. What display manager do you use? gdm, kdm, or something else? |
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| 22:16 | <faheem> | MJD: kdm. |
| 22:16 | <faheem> | not important obviously, just curious. |
| 22:17 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 352] by debhelper |
| 22:17 | <MJD> | So do I. It might be the difference between gdm and kdm (I assume that fleas was running gnome and thus gdm) |
| 22:17 | <faheem> | MJD: sounds plausible. |
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| 22:20 | <faheem> | never heard of this goodbye microsoft site before now. |
| 22:21 | <MJD> | me either |
| 22:22 | <faheem> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32-loader_%28Debian%29 <- first i've heard of this |
| 22:22 | <fgh> | Error |
| 22:23 | <MJD> | sounds cool though. |
| 22:23 | <franki^> | heh, me neither, but it is a cool site :) |
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| 22:23 | <faheem> | in lenny though. |
| 22:24 | <MJD> | but the video uses ie ... |
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| 22:25 | <TheFish> | hi |
| 22:25 | <faheem> | the wikipedia page is not very specific, but i assume it sets up a dual boot |
| 22:26 | * | deishido likes fish |
| 22:26 | <TheFish> | lol |
| 22:26 | * | deishido gets a skillet... |
| 22:26 | <TheFish> | ! |
| 22:26 | * | deishido gets a fillet knife... |
| 22:26 | * | MJD starts the bbq |
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| 22:27 | <TheFish> | uh oh |
| 22:27 | * | deishido begins to chop up... an apple!? |
| 22:27 | <deishido> | NOM NOM NOM NOM...! |
| 22:27 | <TheFish> | runs away |
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| 22:27 | * | deishido feels welcome here... |
| 22:28 | <faheem> | i wish we really could say goodbye to microsoft |
| 22:28 | <TheFish> | me to |
| 22:28 | <deishido> | i was temp banned from irc.rizon.net |
| 22:28 | <deishido> | X.x |
| 22:28 | <TheFish> | why? |
| 22:28 | <noflash> | heh |
| 22:28 | <deishido> | Advertising |
| 22:28 | <TheFish> | oh |
| 22:28 | <abrotman> | deishido: do you have a Debian question? |
| 22:29 | <deishido> | debi-what? |
| 22:29 | <abrotman> | deishido: please be quiet |
| 22:29 | <deishido> | ...ok |
| 22:29 | <TheFish> | do you even use debian? |
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| 22:29 | <abrotman> | TheFish: do you have a Debian question? |
| 22:29 | <TheFish> | no, im just here to help any one who does |
| 22:30 | <deishido> | ._ . i have a question... whats a debian? |
| 22:30 | <abrotman> | !tell deishido about debian |
| 22:30 | <TheFish> | its an operating system |
| 22:30 | <TheFish> | thats better than windows |
| 22:30 | <TheFish> | its linux |
| 22:31 | <deishido> | OOH, LINUX!? i got that... but i failed at installing it... |
| 22:31 | <TheFish> | its what a few other linux operating systems are based off of |
| 22:32 | <deishido> | ok, tnx... |
| 22:32 | <TheFish> | np |
| 22:32 | <abrotman> | deishido: if you do not have a Debian question, please be quiet |
| 22:32 | <deishido> | um... i should leave here... O.o |
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| 22:32 | <abrotman> | agreed |
| 22:33 | <yuri_> | s |
| 22:33 | <TheFish> | ? |
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| 22:33 | <yuri_> | test |
| 22:33 | <TheFish> | oh |
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| 22:34 | <overddose> | hi. can anyone tell me how to update the kernel from 2.6.26 to .27 or above |
| 22:34 | <faheem> | overddose: are you running lenny? |
| 22:34 | <abrotman> | overddose: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 22:34 | <faheem> | overddose: if so, backports has a 2.6.20 |
| 22:34 | <abrotman> | .30 |
| 22:34 | <faheem> | overddose: if so, backports has a 2.6.30 sorry |
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| 22:35 | <overddose> | dpkg: bpo |
| 22:35 | <dpkg> | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
| 22:35 | <abrotman> | overddose: /msg .. not ! |
| 22:35 | <overddose> | sorry ^_^ |
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| 22:38 | <overddose> | abrotman, squeeze killed my comp, wouldnt boot to gnome, and then told me something wasnt configured right, so i reloaded it :] |
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| 22:50 | <overddose> | should i use 2.6.30? |
| 22:50 | <abrotman> | depends why it wouldn't boot .. you're leaving out dettails |
| 22:51 | <overddose> | i dont remember much, it doesnt matter, squeeze is unstable as it is. |
| 22:52 | <abrotman> | well .. technically it's 'testing' |
| 22:52 | <overddose> | yeah. |
| 22:52 | <overddose> | wait. |
| 22:52 | <overddose> | so how would i download this kernel using backports? |
| 22:52 | <abrotman> | without details, it's hard to tell you what went wrong and obviously we have no clue how to tell how it might be fixed |
| 22:53 | <abrotman> | overddose: backports.org has instructions on how to get packages correctly |
| 22:54 | <overddose> | well, if i use synaptic, what would i be looking for? 2.6.30 header files from bpo? |
| 22:55 | <abrotman> | i don't use synaptic .. |
| 22:55 | <overddose> | hmmmm. |
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| 22:55 | <abrotman> | if you've followed the instructions at backports.org .. i believe the command is 'aptitude install -t lenny-backports linux-image-<fooarch>' |
| 22:55 | <faheem> | abrotman: or apt-get |
| 22:56 | <abrotman> | no .. aptitude |
| 22:56 | <MJD> | overdose: what is you current kernel's package called? |
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| 22:56 | <MJD> | overddose: ^ |
| 22:57 | <overddose> | mjd, running 2.6.26, need .30 to support wireless lan :/ |
| 22:57 | <faheem> | overddose: do be clear, backports is if you are running lenny |
| 22:57 | <abrotman> | overddose: he wants to know what 'uname -r' says |
| 22:57 | <MJD> | whats the package called though? |
| 22:57 | <faheem> | do-> to |
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| 22:57 | <overddose> | thats the problem, im not sure |
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| 22:57 | <overddose> | oh. |
| 22:57 | <overddose> | lol |
| 22:57 | <overddose> | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 22:58 | <faheem> | overddose: dpkg -l | grep linux-image |
| 22:58 | <No1> | linux-image in synaptic |
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| 22:59 | <abrotman> | overddose: so you'd type 'aptitude -t lenny-backports install linux-image-686' assuming you've set it up correctly |
| 23:00 | <overddose> | thanks! |
| 23:00 | <overddose> | <3 all of you. |
| 23:01 | <abrotman> | oh .. he loves you faheem .. |
| 23:01 | <faheem> | abrotman: good to know |
| 23:01 | <overddose> | i love all of you equally, and there is no favorites. |
| 23:01 | <abrotman> | not a single one? |
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| 23:01 | <overddose> | no. |
| 23:02 | <overddose> | now i haz to lern linux! |
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| 23:02 | <overddose> | also, when its finished, what now. |
| 23:02 | <faheem> | overddose: just that minor detail... |
| 23:02 | <abrotman> | you reboot |
| 23:02 | <faheem> | in this forum, you really should say "learn Debian" |
| 23:02 | <faheem> | and pray |
| 23:03 | <abrotman> | !bless overddose |
| 23:03 | <dpkg> | O $DEITY, we beseech you to bless your child overddose, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 23:03 | <overddose> | lolwut |
| 23:03 | <overddose> | im not a deity :[ |
| 23:04 | <overddose> | nor am i a child. |
| 23:04 | <abrotman> | no, it calls to $DEITY .. as in some random god-type-being |
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| 23:04 | <Hideo> | everyone is a child in $DEITY's eyes |
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| 23:06 | <overddose> | i love... |
| 23:06 | <overddose> | all of you... |
| 23:06 | <overddose> | so very much... |
| 23:07 | <overddose> | first thing that came up = network card. |
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| 23:08 | <abrotman> | overddose: no reason to msg me |
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| 23:09 | <overddose> | hence "test" |
| 23:09 | <Hideo> | overddose: it's considered rude to pm people on irc w/o asking for permission first |
| 23:10 | <overddose> | :[ |
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| 23:10 | <Hideo> | it's one of those netiquettes |
| 23:10 | <overddose> | only thing i do irc related is illegal by any standards, so i dont spend alot of time talking to people :D |
| 23:14 | <overddose> | anyways, thanks guys for your help. |
| 23:14 | <overddose> | <3 |
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