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| 00:46 | <RobbieThe1st> | I'm running Debian Lenny(5.03), and I am having trouble with a PCMCIA network card. "pccardctl ident" shows nothing. |
| 00:46 | <RobbieThe1st> | I think it may have something to do with PCMCIA not being configured correctly, but I don't know how to fix it. |
| 00:52 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: Is the relevant socket driver for your system loaded? (e.g. yenta_socket) |
| 00:53 | <RobbieThe1st> | I don't have a clue. |
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| 00:54 | <RobbieThe1st> | gsimmons: If you have a command that I can run to check, please let me know |
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| 01:00 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: You can determine this by grepping on lsmod output. What system are you using? (e.g. brand, model) Are you attempting to use the 3com 3C589D-TP device you mentioned previously? |
| 01:02 | <RobbieThe1st> | System is an old Dell Latitude XPi laptop (Pentium 1, 90mhz, 32 megs of ram). And yes, same card. |
| 01:02 | <RobbieThe1st> | gsimmons, what am I looking for in the list? |
| 01:03 | <RobbieThe1st> | I see 3c589_cs, pcmcia, and pcmcia_core that all sound like they are related to the task at hand |
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| 01:09 | <godspeed> | hi everyone |
| 01:09 | <RobbieThe1st> | Hello, godspeed |
| 01:09 | <godspeed> | its just so great to migrate, i wish i was ignorant again ;) |
| 01:10 | <godspeed> | anyway, I was lxde-ing a while ... |
| 01:12 | <RobbieThe1st> | Godspeed, how experianced a Debian user are you? |
| 01:12 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: Is your device listed at 'pccardctl ls'? 'pccardctl status' should report it as being bound to 3c589_cs. |
| 01:13 | <godspeed> | RobbieThe1st,: 6 to 8 month |
| 01:13 | <RobbieThe1st> | both 'pccardctl ls' and 'pccardctl status' return absolutely nothing. |
| 01:13 | <godspeed> | I had a two month with ub, |
| 01:14 | <RobbieThe1st> | Just so you know, I manually loaded the 3c589_cs module in /etc/modules |
| 01:14 | <godspeed> | what are you trying to do rob\ |
| 01:15 | <RobbieThe1st> | Get a PCMCIA network card working on an ancient laptop |
| 01:16 | <RobbieThe1st> | The card itself is a common one - 3com 3c589D, but for one reason or another, its not being detected. |
| 01:16 | <godspeed> | ancient is terrific, i use an intel pentium 3 , faster than my vista laptop (obviously) |
| 01:16 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: You most likely need to load the appropriate socket driver (in /etc/modules) specific to your system (e.g. i82365 for the Toshiba Libretto 50). What exact Latitude XPi do you have? |
| 01:17 | <RobbieThe1st> | gsimmons, I have a "Latitude XPi P90T" apparently |
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| 01:17 | <RobbieThe1st> | godspeed, this thing has a 90mhz cpu and 32 megs of ram. <_< |
| 01:19 | <godspeed> | ! |
| 01:19 | <jpinx-eeepc> | I'd like to leave my router-controlled nat as it is, but connect another box direct to one of those on the nat via a xovercable and a static route. After reading loads I'm still a bit confused (understatement) how to do this. |
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| 01:22 | <godspeed> | RobbieThe1st : what purpose will this machine serves, once the card works ? |
| 01:22 | <godspeed> | as a router |
| 01:23 | <RobbieThe1st> | godspeed, I'm planning on having it run some command-line PHP scripts I have |
| 01:23 | <RobbieThe1st> | mainly, I have this script to check for updates to a bunch of webcomics, I currently have it running on my main computer |
| 01:24 | <godspeed> | how long have you been using unix ? |
| 01:24 | <RobbieThe1st> | currently, I have my main computer auto-booting at a certain time each day, running the scripts, shutting down... |
| 01:25 | <RobbieThe1st> | but, no need to have my full computer up if I have this |
| 01:25 | <RobbieThe1st> | um... a couple months? |
| 01:25 | <godspeed> | xD |
| 01:26 | <RobbieThe1st> | I actually built the scripts back when I was using windows, had them working for a couple of years.. |
| 01:26 | <RobbieThe1st> | when I "upgraded" to linux, a couple minor modifications and they worked great |
| 01:28 | <godspeed> | how come you decided to try linux ? |
| 01:29 | <RobbieThe1st> | Honestly, I had been trying to do it for a while, but there was always some annoying problem stopping me. what got me to actually do it this time was a question by a friend on how to do something |
| 01:29 | <RobbieThe1st> | I ended up doing it myself, figured it out, and got a working system |
| 01:30 | <godspeed> | ah :) thats great |
| 01:30 | <RobbieThe1st> | and, I'm glad I did so. No way in hell that windows 7 can compete with Ubuntu |
| 01:30 | <godspeed> | nah, |
| 01:30 | <godspeed> | win7 is just too little too late , if you ask me |
| 01:31 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yea, true enough |
| 01:32 | <RobbieThe1st> | But, my main turn off there was the fact that it has those annoying ribbons. and If I'm going to have to do a whole lot of configuration to get back to proper menus and such... why not go the whole way to a new OS? |
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| 01:32 | <godspeed> | got it |
| 01:33 | <godspeed> | its free |
| 01:33 | <godspeed> | :P |
| 01:33 | <godspeed> | ;) |
| 01:33 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yea, that too |
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| 01:33 | <leper> | hello people!!!! |
| 01:34 | <leper> | tooo many time without see ya!!! |
| 01:34 | <leper> | how are you mates? |
| 01:34 | <leper> | did ya miss me? |
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| 01:34 | <leper> | hello dpkg |
| 01:34 | <leper> | !mandriva |
| 01:34 | <dpkg> | extra, extra, read all about it, mandriva is the new name (2005.04) of the merged Mandrake Linux and <Conectiva> Linux companies, or a stupid name, or a way of giving untested and pre-released software to newbies. http://www.mandriva.com/ #mandriva on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:34 | <leper> | lol |
| 01:35 | <leper> | !mepi |
| 01:35 | <godspeed> | rob: what I like is that you are totally free to do whatever the hell you want with your os |
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| 01:36 | <leper> | what are you talking about?? can i join to the chat godspeed |
| 01:36 | <leper> | ?? |
| 01:36 | <godspeed> | without feeling out of date when the upgrade comes out |
| 01:36 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yes, that is very true. |
| 01:37 | <leper> | =/ |
| 01:37 | <godspeed> | win 7 just got out, lots of people are stuck with not so old machines running good old vista |
| 01:38 | <leper> | i tryed seven |
| 01:38 | <leper> | i didn't like it |
| 01:38 | <godspeed> | not so bad heh |
| 01:38 | <leper> | it is like vista, but faster |
| 01:38 | <godspeed> | yeah, |
| 01:38 | <godspeed> | i liked it cause it was faster |
| 01:39 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: Try 'modprobe i82365', then check pccardctl output. |
| 01:39 | <leper> | always asking for everything, it get froze |
| 01:39 | <leper> | the only thing that i like of windows, is msn xD! |
| 01:39 | <leper> | ajajajajajaajaj, oo yea and the adobe suit for have fun =B |
| 01:39 | <leper> | hello gsimmons so many time how are you? |
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| 01:40 | <RobbieThe1st> | And... that looks like progress! Stuff came up on screen, including eth0 detected |
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| 01:41 | <NTKM> | hello |
| 01:41 | <gsimmons> | RobbieThe1st: Good to hear. Add i82365 to /etc/modules (you shouldn't need to include 3c589_cs in there). |
| 01:42 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yea, thats added |
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| 01:44 | * | godspeed out for a cig |
| 01:46 | <RobbieThe1st> | Ok, new question. I just did /etc/init.d/networking restart. DHCP starts working, I see several lines of "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval *num*", then "No DHCPOFFERS received". |
| 01:47 | <leper> | !es |
| 01:47 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 02:01 | <majhool> | i'm trying to get grub to boot a drive on which / is managed by lvm, however the initrd image can't mount it |
| 02:01 | <majhool> | at the initramfs prompt i can see my lv using lvm, but there's nothing except "control" in /dev/mapper |
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| 02:02 | <majhool> | and running vgmknodes in lvm doesn't do anything |
| 02:02 | <majhool> | even though pvdisplay and lvs work fine... |
| 02:02 | <majhool> | how do i get the devices files to appear? |
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| 02:41 | <RobbieThe1st> | Ok, whats going on here: I have a network card setup on this computer, proper drivers installed, and it set to DHCP. On my main computer, plugged into the next port of my hub(which is connected to a router with DHCP enabled), everything works fine. |
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| 02:42 | <RobbieThe1st> | But, I get "no DHCPOFFERS recieved" when it tries to discover on this computer. |
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| 02:45 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: have you tried running the afflicted computer and one that works on static ips, and seeing if you can ping/ssh/etc from one to the other? |
| 02:46 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: also, did you alter the broken computer's firewall ruleset recently? |
| 02:49 | <RobbieThe1st> | majhool, first off, I tried setting the afflicted comp to static IP and such, but when I tried to ping the router, I get "Network is unreachable". On the good computer, it works fine |
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| 02:50 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: ok, if you check dmesg, do you see something like ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
| 02:51 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: ideally with a line saying that it's become ready soon thereafter |
| 02:51 | <RobbieThe1st> | Nope. the last several lines all show "eth0: flipped to 10baseT" |
| 02:52 | <majhool> | hmm |
| 02:52 | <majhool> | and the light on the nic is on? |
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| 02:53 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yes, and the activity light for the network cable to this machine flashes on my hub during the dhcp process |
| 02:53 | <majhool> | ok |
| 02:53 | <majhool> | well, i'd run watch -n 1 dmesg in one terminal and then bring the interface up |
| 02:54 | <RobbieThe1st> | also, completely unrelated, but I'm using Xchat here - your previous lines show up in red text with "robbiethe1st: *text*". Is this a private message, notice, or what? |
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| 02:55 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: it's not a private message. a decent irc client will highlight messages that are prefaced with your nick to help you pick out comments addressed to you |
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| 02:56 | <RobbieThe1st> | Ok. I kind of figured as much, but wasn't sure. Thanks. |
| 02:56 | <RobbieThe1st> | As far as the watch command, thanks |
| 02:56 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: if you can get that watch command going, bring the interface up (bringing it down first if necessary) and then pastebin the watch command's output, it'd help me get a better idea of what's going on |
| 02:56 | <RobbieThe1st> | As far as the watch command, what am I looking for |
| 02:56 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: no problem |
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| 02:57 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: well, you should see some ADDRCONF lines that give you information about the link itself |
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| 02:58 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: also, if you type the first two letters of my nick and press tab, Xchat will complete it for you |
| 03:01 | <RobbieThe1st> | majhool, I'm not seeing those. I see some lines beginning with "DMA zone:" "Normal zone:" and such, but it all looks memory-related |
| 03:01 | <RobbieThe1st> | and nothing appeared when I ran ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 in terminal 2 |
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| 03:02 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: ok, if you do dmesg | grep eth what do you see? |
| 03:04 | <RobbieThe1st> | the first line is "3com 3c589, io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:60:08:ec:5f:bd". The last 4 lines are "eth0: flipped to 10baseT" |
| 03:06 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: does the first line begin w/ something like "3c589: " |
| 03:07 | <RobbieThe1st> | No, it starts with "[ 188.760056] eth0: *message*" |
| 03:07 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: is this a PCMCIA card? |
| 03:08 | <RobbieThe1st> | Yes. Another member of this chat helped me get the drivers(and PCMCIA driver) setup properly |
| 03:09 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: well i'm wondering if it's actually set up properly |
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| 03:09 | <majhool> | hmm |
| 03:10 | <RobbieThe1st> | majhool, It may not be. But it does show up, which is better than before. |
| 03:10 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: i have to tell you, i've managed to never own a computer with a PC slot |
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| 03:11 | <RobbieThe1st> | I got this one for free, so... |
| 03:11 | <majhool> | yeah |
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| 03:14 | <majhool> | RobbieThe1st: i'll try to google around a bit, but i'm kind of stumped |
| 03:15 | <RobbieThe1st> | majhool, fair enough. |
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| 03:21 | <RobbieThe1st> | majhool: How can I find out what gateway my working DHCP-enabled computer is using? |
| 03:21 | <RobbieThe1st> | its running Ubuntu, so Debian commands should work... |
| 03:21 | <majhool> | sudo route -n |
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| 03:22 | <majhool> | or just route, if you can wait for dns |
| 03:22 | <kermit_t> | hi there anyone using haier ce 100 |
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| 03:22 | <kermit_t> | hi there anyone using haier ce 100 |
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| 03:30 | <RobbieThe1st> | majhool, I'm actually willing to get it working with a static IP, if that helps. |
| 03:30 | <RobbieThe1st> | when I have it setup with a static IP, the same netmask and gateway as my good comp has, and I try to ping the router, I get: |
| 03:31 | <RobbieThe1st> | "from 192.168.0.2 icmp_seq=*num* Destination Host Unreachable", where 192.168.0.2 is the IP of the computer in question |
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| 03:50 | <jintxo> | hey guys and gals, I'm reading up on tc on the lartc page, looking at a specific example, and there's one small thing I'm not sure of. http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.fullnat.intro.html#AEN2279 |
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| 03:51 | <jintxo> | since the "ceiling" is set to 240, does that mean all connections will get throttled to that? or sine he has 2Mbit downling, will he be able to get the full 2Mbit in some cases? |
| 03:51 | <jintxo> | s/sine/since |
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| 04:02 | <Skre> | ciao a tutti |
| 04:03 | <Skre> | come posso aggiornare debian 4 alla versione 5? |
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| 04:05 | <locklace> | !it |
| 04:05 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 04:26 | <thomas> | need help installing linksys wusb54gs wireless |
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| 04:27 | <babilen> | !tell thomas -about wusb54gs |
| 04:27 | <thomas> | what do you need to know |
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| 04:28 | <babilen> | thomas: no you should have been \msg by dpkg with a little factoid that gives information about wusb54gs on Debian |
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| 04:28 | <babilen> | !wusb54gs |
| 04:28 | <dpkg> | The WUSB54GS "Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter with SpeedBooster" is a 802.11g wireless LAN device produced by Cisco. Version 1 (USB-Id 13b1:000E) and version 2 (USB-Id 13b1:0014) are supported by the rndis_wlan driver, ask me about <rndis_wlan>. Not to be confused with the <WUSB54GSC>. |
| 04:28 | <babilen> | !rndis_wlan |
| 04:28 | <dpkg> | i heard rndis_wlan is a driver for wireless RNDIS chipsets, which is only the Broadcom 4320 USB at present. Included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.25. Does not require firmware from userspace. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#rndiswlan http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rndis_wlan |
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| 04:29 | <babilen> | thomas: that should get you started |
| 04:29 | <thomas> | i will look at it thanks |
| 04:29 | <babilen> | thomas: good luck |
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| 04:39 | <Rhapsody> | I've just used reportbug, and told it to send the bug via email at end. I shouldn't have done that, since reportbug has no clue what my email account's password is, so it can't possibly have sent it. I did tell it my email address though, so where the hell did it actually send that bug? |
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| 04:40 | <Rhapsody> | I'm a bit reluctant to try again, just in case reportbug did somehow send it and I end up with a duplicate. |
| 04:40 | <Rhapsody> | I also want to find that bug report, so I don't have to retype it. |
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| 04:42 | <cahoot> | Rhapsody: won't it be rejected and returned then? |
| 04:43 | <cahoot> | doh - sorry |
| 04:43 | <supaman> | go to the debian bug tracking system,find the package you reported the bug against and see if it came through |
| 04:44 | <Rhapsody> | I don't see anything yet. I guess it's lost now, I'll just retype and save the file so I can send it manually. |
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| 04:47 | <jintxo> | I'm trying to understand "tc" before actually doing any shaping. I have very few clients and just want to prioritize traffic based on a few simple rules (KISS, don't want to mess with bandwidth allocation, just priorities). do you guys know what the best queuing discipline would be for this? |
| 04:52 | <Rhapsody> | Right, sent. Let is be know that if any of what was in that bug report was wrong, then it's because I was confused by the "How to report a bug" page. |
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| 04:56 | <Arthuza> | hi i was just wondering if anyone else has had troubles getting the intel 5100ABGN WiFi card working in lenny? even with updated iwlwifi |
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| 05:04 | <cahoot> | 'updated iwlwifi' meaning the firmware and/or the module? |
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| 05:06 | <Arthuza> | cahoot: both |
| 05:07 | <locklace> | Arthuza: you need a newer kernel |
| 05:07 | <Arthuza> | even tried fireware from other sites but still no go ... it has the interface up but unable for networks |
| 05:07 | <Arthuza> | 2.6.30.bpo-1 amd64 atm |
| 05:08 | <locklace> | ok. should work then |
| 05:08 | <Arthuza> | yeha i know :( lol |
| 05:08 | <cahoot> | Arthuza: no complaints in dmesg when modprobing? |
| 05:08 | <Arthuza> | none |
| 05:09 | <locklace> | what is the exact problem |
| 05:10 | <Arthuza> | iwlist scan comes back stright away no networks found. try to scan via GUI (KDE network manager) and cannot find networks either .. i know i have one 1 foot away and another very close .. :( |
| 05:11 | <Arthuza> | tried setting an essid as well but still no go |
| 05:11 | <locklace> | paste the output of ifconfig wlan0 and iwconfig wlan0 at http://paste.debian.net |
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| 05:13 | <locklace> | !pie Supaplex |
| 05:13 | * | dpkg hits locklace in the face with a cream pie |
| 05:13 | <locklace> | :( |
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| 05:13 | <Skre> | Ciao a tutti |
| 05:13 | <locklace> | !it |
| 05:13 | <dpkg> | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 05:14 | <Arthuza> | ok sent |
| 05:15 | <locklace> | it's behaving a lot like the firmware isn't loaded |
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| 05:17 | <Arthuza> | oh i forgot to add when i iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc - rror for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :SET failed on device wlan0 ; Device or resource busy. |
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| 05:19 | <Arthuza> | that's what i thought there has to be something wrong with the fireware hence i made sure i got the lastest deb package and rebooted then tried other ones from other sites and still no success |
| 05:19 | <locklace> | iirc when you ifconfig wlan0 up you should get kernel messages about the firmware being loaded. do you? |
| 05:21 | <Arthuza> | ahh only been checking dmesg not kern .. output = Nov 28 20:21:03 Azazel kernel: [ 2170.236944] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
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| 05:22 | <locklace> | just do "ifconfig wlan0 down ; dmesg | tail ; ifconfig wlan0 up ; dmesg | tail" |
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| 05:24 | <Arthuza> | will post on paste.debain.net |
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| 05:24 | <naiv> | after copyiing a directory with cp -R on the same partition, the size |
| 05:24 | <naiv> | of source and dest, given by du -s differs, is it normal ? |
| 05:25 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell Arthuza -about killswitch |
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| 05:29 | <Arthuza> | hurm intresting .. physical switch is on and fn+f2 (and i can see it is the wireless one on my keypad) still not making a chang logs indicate kill switch is still on |
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| 05:36 | <Arthuza> | i might remove and re-replace thall the firewares i have played around with check bios to se if there is an override and see when i boot if it responds to the fn+f2 ... thanks guys! |
| 05:36 | <Arthuza> | firmwares* |
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| 06:02 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 06:02 | <dpkg> | <]BdS[DrDefrag> i want to overclock my proliant dl580 g2 to compile the 2.6 kernel more quickly. any recommendations ? |
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| 07:08 | <Tuplad> | I have downloaded a Haiku .image file and used the "dd" command to put it on my usb stick. Now when I "fdisk -l" I get a bunch of errors, what is it ? http://pastebin.ca/1690975 |
| 07:13 | <locklace> | what did you expect |
| 07:13 | <Tuplad> | a working usb stick that can be booted in haiku :D |
| 07:13 | <locklace> | you dd some random file onto your drive and expect it to magically contain a valid partition table afterward? |
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| 07:15 | <locklace> | ask the haiku people |
| 07:15 | <Tuplad> | locklace: I followed the manual :p |
| 07:16 | <Tuplad> | locklace: downloaded the image from their site, their manual says to: dd if=path/to/haiku.image of=/dev/sd[x] bs=1M |
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| 07:18 | <locklace> | so ask them why their image doesn't have what you expect |
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| 07:20 | <Tuplad> | locklace: roger that! |
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| 08:03 | <daemon66> | when i start wow launcher i get error (launcher requires permission) annyone know a work arround? |
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| 08:05 | <EmleyMoor> | I would like a USB sound device to be my default sound card if it is connected at boot... but the onboard HDA Intel to be default if the USB is absent at boot. How, using alsa, might I achieve this? |
| 08:07 | <EmleyMoor> | (at least for one particular user anyway) |
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| 08:07 | <simonrvn> | you could use /etc/modules to load the usb first, then hda-intel |
| 08:08 | <cahoot> | or simply give snd-usb-audio index 0 |
| 08:08 | <simonrvn> | that's the other one i was thinking about ;) |
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| 08:15 | <EmleyMoor> | I'd need to try and see to make sure it copes with all scenarios but I will look at those. |
| 08:16 | <cahoot> | EmleyMoor: or reimplement asoundconf |
| 08:16 | <cahoot> | maybe even resort to pulseaudio |
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| 08:17 | <EmleyMoor> | I tried a way that shuld have worked but it prevented the Intel working at all in the end |
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| 08:18 | <EmleyMoor> | http://gleamynode.net/articles/1508/ was no help in the end |
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| 08:19 | <EmleyMoor> | index 0 trick prevents the USB being used if absent at boot |
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| 08:21 | <cahoot> | unless you reload alsa |
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| 08:37 | <marchino> | hi! how can i force aptitute to remove all automatically installed packages? |
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| 08:38 | <marchino> | in my laptop it does it automatically, in a remote server it doesn't |
| 08:39 | <marchino> | in both machine debian stable is installed |
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| 08:53 | <gernot> | Hi. I'm running squeeze and miss rxvt-unicode. Can I install it from stable just like I could from unstable? |
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| 08:55 | <locklace> | you should install the sid version |
| 08:56 | <gernot> | Alright then. Thank you. |
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| 09:17 | <shinran666> | hello hows the morning |
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| 09:18 | <shinran666> | can i have an assist |
| 09:19 | <handheldCar> | !help |
| 09:19 | <handheldCar> | !ask |
| 09:19 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:33 | <bremner> | any recommendations for a proxy/filter for _outgoing_ mail to set headers and so on based on a per-user configuration? I'm running exim, but not sure if I want to tie a solution to that. |
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| 09:34 | <Tuplad> | how can I wipe the partition table ? |
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| 09:36 | <bremner> | I guess procmail is the obvious answer to my question, but, it is not the nicest syntax. |
| 09:37 | <bremner> | Tuplad: are you sure you want to? can't you just make the changes you want with parted or gparted? |
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| 09:37 | <Tuplad> | bremner: can't do it <_< it's an usb stick. |
| 09:37 | <Tuplad> | bremner: tried installing haiku on it |
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| 09:37 | <bremner> | gparted works fine on usb sticks |
| 09:38 | <Tuplad> | bremner: can't do it... |
| 09:38 | <locklace> | !lose Tuplad |
| 09:38 | <dpkg> | Tuplad: You Lose. |
| 09:38 | <Tuplad> | :( |
| 09:38 | <bremner> | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/usb_stick_raw count=10000 or something like that |
| 09:38 | <bremner> | that will wipe everything of course |
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| 09:39 | <locklace> | cfdisk -z is saner |
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| 09:39 | * | bremner puts footgun back in pocket |
| 09:39 | <Tuplad> | :D |
| 09:39 | <Tuplad> | lets try |
| 09:39 | <bremner> | you still have to get the right device or you are F*cked |
| 09:40 | <Tuplad> | yeah, no worries |
| 09:40 | <locklace> | kind of like when you want to delete a file, you have to get the right file |
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| 09:40 | <Tuplad> | I know which device it is |
| 09:40 | <Tuplad> | but the partition table is phucked |
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| 09:41 | <mudrik> | Hi all. |
| 09:41 | <locklace> | !confuse mudrik |
| 09:41 | <dpkg> | Yes, what is your gerbil tomorrow, mudrik? Shirts of the People's Republic of Liechtenstein with extra herring. |
| 09:41 | <handheldCar> | !all mudrik |
| 09:41 | <mudrik> | I have a newbie question. Any one here can help me? |
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| 09:41 | <bremner> | locklace: kind of like when you want to drop a nuke, you have to get the right city |
| 09:41 | <locklace> | !anyone |
| 09:41 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 09:42 | <mudrik> | Can I transport a precompiled kernel and the modules to other system and simply run? |
| 09:43 | <mudrik> | What must be compatible to work? |
| 09:43 | <locklace> | you mean like debian packages do |
| 09:43 | <mudrik> | I'm talking about kernel and modules only. |
| 09:43 | <locklace> | what do you think a debian kernel package consists of |
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| 09:44 | <mudrik> | Compile a kernel on a Debian 2.6 and run on a Red Hat, for example. |
| 09:45 | <locklace> | the linux kernel is essentially independent of distribution, modulo boot loader config and initramfs silliness |
| 09:45 | <mudrik> | If I have no idea what GCC or system client version is. |
| 09:45 | <mudrik> | How about the modules? Are them indepent too? |
| 09:45 | <mudrik> | independent |
| 09:45 | <locklace> | the modules are part of the kernel |
| 09:46 | <mudrik> | ok. Great. |
| 09:46 | <locklace> | if i were masochistic, i'd ask what the real problem you're trying to solve is |
| 09:47 | <locklace> | but i'm not, so have fun |
| 09:47 | <mudrik> | Thanks. Question answered. |
| 09:47 | <locklace> | !next |
| 09:47 | <dpkg> | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 09:47 | <mudrik> | hehehe. |
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| 09:50 | <Slash[GnR]> | hi... i got my wireless card working but i get no signal even if im close to the ap... anybody knows what could be the problem? |
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| 09:50 | <locklace> | in what sense is it "working" then |
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| 09:51 | <Slash[GnR]> | iwconfig shows me the interface |
| 09:52 | <Slash[GnR]> | and i tried network manager and wicd |
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| 09:52 | <locklace> | that doesn't mean anything other than the kernel sees the card |
| 09:52 | <locklace> | what card/chipset and what version of debian |
| 09:52 | <locklace> | paste output of "ifconfig -a" and "iwconfig" and "lspci -knn" at http://paste.debian.net |
| 09:52 | <Slash[GnR]> | edimax rt73 and lenny 5.0.3 |
| 09:52 | <Slash[GnR]> | ok |
| 09:53 | <locklace> | !rt73usb |
| 09:53 | <dpkg> | The Ralink RT73 USB chipset (RT2501USB/RT2571W) is supported by the next-generation driver (rt73usb), included in mainline kernels since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <ralink firmware> to provide. For driver and firmware installation on Etch systems, see http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 |
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| 10:03 | <Slash[GnR]> | http://paste.debian.net/52632/ |
| 10:03 | <Slash[GnR]> | http://paste.debian.net/52633/ |
| 10:03 | <Slash[GnR]> | http://paste.debian.net/52634/ |
| 10:04 | <locklace> | did you install the firmware or not |
| 10:04 | <Slash[GnR]> | i installed the driver from edimax web sites |
| 10:05 | <locklace> | fail |
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| 10:06 | <Slash[GnR]> | ok ill do it the debian way |
| 10:07 | <locklace> | the driver is already part of the kernel, all you need beyond that is the firmware |
| 10:07 | <locklace> | !ralink firmware |
| 10:07 | <dpkg> | Firmware from userspace is required for the <rt61pci> and <rt73usb> drivers from the <rt2x00> project. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-ralink package (lenny, etch-backports, squeeze) to provide. Firmware is also required by the <rt2860sta> and <rt2870sta> staging drivers in Debian kernel images since 2.6.30, install firmware-ralink 0.17 or later (lenny-backports, squeeze) to provide. |
| 10:10 | <Slash[GnR]> | it works... thanks! |
| 10:10 | <locklace> | !congratulate Slash[GnR] |
| 10:10 | <dpkg> | Yay Slash[GnR], you did it! |
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| 10:11 | <Slash[GnR]> | now the next step if to make my video card work... ill check what can i get on the net |
| 10:12 | <locklace> | !nvidia |
| 10:12 | <dpkg> | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 10:13 | <gernot> | What's the reason that I only get the X-shaped cursor in some apps, but a regular pointer in others? I have xcursor-themes installed. |
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| 10:18 | <Slash[GnR]> | when i do apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-common it says E: Could't find package module-assistant... do i have to configure the source.list? |
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| 10:19 | <handheldCar> | I had the same problem. |
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| 10:19 | <handheldCar> | I still had no luck after putting non-free and contrib at the end of the first line. |
| 10:20 | <Slash[GnR]> | is there a way to fix it? |
| 10:20 | <locklace> | Slash[GnR]: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:20 | <locklace> | judd versions module-assistant |
| 10:20 | <judd> | locklace: module-assistant -- etch: 0.10.8 lenny: 0.10.11.0 sid: 0.10.11.0 sid: 0.11.1 squeeze: 0.11.1 |
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| 10:22 | <Slash[GnR]> | http://paste.debian.net/52637/ |
| 10:22 | <handheldCar> | !!! |
| 10:22 | <dpkg> | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 10:22 | <locklace> | so, you have nothing in your sources.list |
| 10:23 | <Slash[GnR]> | what should i add? |
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| 10:24 | <Slash[GnR]> | i added deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib and deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
| 10:24 | <Slash[GnR]> | but it still doesnt work |
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| 10:24 | <handheldCar> | You have to remove those # symbols for one thing, and you might need non-free and contrib after the first ... no, you need the regular us instead of security url I think. |
| 10:24 | <locklace> | !default sources.list |
| 10:24 | <dpkg> | [default sources.list] /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 10:24 | <handheldCar> | from all the deb lines except the cdrom |
| 10:25 | <EmleyMoor> | Other than http://gleamynode.net/articles/1508/, any way to cause a change of default sound card on plugging in a USB audio device? |
| 10:25 | <handheldCar> | but keep the security url. us or whatever would be in addition |
| 10:25 | <themill> | Slash[GnR]: you should run "aptitude update ; aptitude safe-upgrade" after changing your sources.list |
| 10:26 | <gsimmons> | locklace: That is an unfortunately poor example, as it references "stable" (there's a bug filed for this). |
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| 10:26 | <locklace> | yeah, i know |
| 10:26 | <locklace> | we don't seem to have a lenny sources.list factoid |
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| 10:27 | <themill> | !sources.list |
| 10:27 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 10:27 | <locklace> | not good enough |
| 10:28 | <themill> | because... |
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| 10:28 | <handheldCar> | Maybe that aptitude update is why my changes still didn't find nvidia-common.... |
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| 10:47 | <TCW_> | re |
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| 10:49 | <TCW_> | there was a webpage about linux sata chips and drivers and what chip can do what (hotplug, tcq, ahci...). I just don't find it anymore! I thought it was on linux-ata.org, but that domain is dead?! |
| 10:49 | <TCW_> | Anyone a clue? |
| 10:51 | <gsimmons> | TCW_: Try http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/ instead. |
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| 10:52 | <TCW_> | gsimmons, thx |
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| 11:36 | <nse> | I have this problem. I can't see youtube videos while operating debian testing and epiphany because the video screen maintain itself black. Is there a way to go round this? |
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| 11:43 | <Lillymon> | I'm beginning to dislike Debian. I was just forced to reboot when the entire system froze, and now sound doesn't work. I can identify no reason whatsoever for this problem, my settings are utterly unchanged. |
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| 11:44 | <Lillymon> | My mixer settings are correct, ALSA can see the sound card, my speakers and on and connected. But if I change Phonon backend, Phonon announces that the default output (Front/WaveIn on my sound card) does not work. |
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| 11:45 | <Lillymon> | So what the hell is going on now? |
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| 11:47 | <cahoot> | what if you try alsa force-reload as root? |
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| 11:48 | <Lillymon> | Still doesn't work, and KDE now insists that my sound card has been *REMOVED*, that it is not longer in existence. |
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| 11:48 | <cahoot> | my oh my |
| 11:48 | <Lillymon> | This is a fine mess. |
| 11:48 | <cahoot> | how does speaker-test fare? |
| 11:49 | <Lillymon> | Well in KDE System Settings, nothing happens. |
| 11:49 | <cahoot> | run speaker-test -t wav -c2 in a terminal |
| 11:49 | <Lillymon> | Silence. |
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| 11:50 | <cahoot> | try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
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| 11:50 | <locklace> | !qotd0 |
| 11:50 | <dpkg> | <jarjar26> how can i start gnome automatically when gnome start ? |
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| 11:50 | <Lillymon> | cahoot: Congratulations, you just nailed it. |
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| 11:54 | <buff> | greetings to all |
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| 11:57 | <buff> | what irc clients do you prefer? console based? |
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| 11:57 | <locklace> | !irssi |
| 11:57 | <dpkg> | i guess irssi is the best <IRC> client ever. "aptitude install irssi" and read http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup . See also http://irssi.org/documentation/faq . http://www.irssi.org/ #irssi on open.ircnet.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:57 | <cahoot> | !polls |
| 11:57 | <dpkg> | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 11:58 | <buff> | ok np sorry |
| 11:58 | <locklace> | asking for recommendations is perfectly reasonable |
| 11:58 | <cahoot> | buff: I'd google for l33t irc client |
| 11:58 | <cahoot> | locklace: it was a poll |
| 11:58 | <buff> | ok will do |
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| 12:00 | <locklace> | only if you're afflicted with an overweeningly literal mind |
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| 12:03 | <cahoot> | locklace: I'll keep that qute in mind |
| 12:03 | <cahoot> | quote |
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| 12:06 | <Lillymon> | Methinks that was a question for #debian-offtopic. |
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| 12:07 | <OsoLoco> | irc.twit.tv |
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| 12:08 | <Lillymon> | Hit and run, despicable. |
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| 13:07 | <Stemby> | Hi, I use apt-proxy, that works well. If I put localhost:9999 in a browser, I obtain "ERROR 403 - too few slashes in URI /": is it normal? |
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| 13:24 | <Stemby> | Nobody uses apt-proxy? |
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| 13:26 | <bremner> | Stemby: I use approx |
| 13:26 | <bremner> | Stemby: and yeah, it sounds more or less normal. Why don't you run apt-get update as a test instead? |
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| 13:31 | <Stemby> | No, it works well via APT, bremner, but I'd like to use it to build a live cd with live helper. No problem for a simple live cd, but it fails if I use the --debian-installer option (live + Debian installer): in fact vmlinuz is downloaded via http |
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| 13:32 | <bremner> | ah, well. Don't know about that. You could try approx and see if it is any better for you. |
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| 13:40 | <jerome> | hmmm. No koffice in unstable. Damnit. |
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| 13:45 | <Stemby> | bremner, how does approx work? Can you paste a line frome your sources.list? |
| 13:46 | <Stemby> | frome→from |
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| 13:54 | <MayaT> | hello |
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| 14:06 | <MayaT> | how to install USB modem Vodafone 3G/GPRS running on debian/linux |
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| 14:10 | <Mr_Queue> | what bot spits out available package versions? I want to say it was 'door' or something close to that. |
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| 14:13 | <Stemby> | MayaT: Google says http://wiki.debian.org/Modem/3G/Vodafone : did you read it? |
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| 14:23 | <MayaT> | Stemby, yes i read it but i cant understand |
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| 14:25 | <bighornram> | What is the correct method to replace "vga=792" in grub 2? |
| 14:25 | <cahoot> | probably edit /etc/default/grub |
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| 14:26 | <cahoot> | ...and run update-grub (as indicated in the file IIRC) |
| 14:26 | <bighornram> | I can't seem to make it work. I have vga=792 there, which works, but I get the "depreciated" message when booting. Mr. Google seems to have some suggetions but none work for me. |
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| 14:28 | <cahoot> | the section about #GRUB_GFXMODE ? |
| 14:28 | <bighornram> | gfxpayload=true is recommended in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= line but that doesn't work for me. |
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| 14:38 | <bremner> | Stemby: deb http://localhost:9999/debian stable main contrib non-free |
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| 14:45 | <chiefsfan> | hey |
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| 14:48 | <Stemby> | bremner: ok. If you put "http://localhost:9999" in your browser, what do you obtain? |
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| 15:05 | <CaBa> | hi |
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| 15:06 | <mai> | hej |
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| 15:06 | <CaBa> | i'm having trouble with the bridge support in the interfaces file - somehow my bridge device doesnt seem to go down with 'networking stop' - is that a known issue in lenny? |
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| 15:42 | <flavio> | boa tarde!! |
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| 15:43 | <flavio> | tudo bom com vc,s? |
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| 15:47 | <jelari> | hi all, i have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and then after my system became dead show. could some one guide me. ? |
| 15:47 | <jelari> | it is really annoying.. |
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| 15:47 | <locklace> | !ubuntu |
| 15:47 | <dpkg> | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 15:47 | <mai> | here we are again |
| 15:47 | <jelari> | anyone please ? |
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| 15:47 | <jelari> | i have 4 GB ram. 320 hdd. |
| 15:48 | <jelari> | if i launch firefox, then the system response time is pretty huge. |
| 15:48 | <jelari> | ?? |
| 15:49 | <locklace> | !tell jelari about ubuntu |
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| 15:52 | <bremner> | Stemby: if I type http://localhost:9999/debian/dists I get something sensible |
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| 15:54 | <Stemby> | ok bremner, I'm testing approx |
| 15:54 | <TCW_> | any thought on current grub2 in sid? The bts looks somewhat horrible :) I have softraid, lvm and crypt, /boot is a separate raid1 array and somehow I am not in the mood to debug a non-booting system there :) |
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| 15:55 | <leo> | I have linksys WMP300N wireless card in my system....I just installed Debian Lenny AMD64....Are there drivers for this wireless card? |
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| 15:56 | <Stemby> | bremner, it seems not to work correctly: I obtain error 403 forbidden |
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| 15:57 | <bremner> | Stemby: at the top level, or at ../dists |
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| 15:57 | <BCDN> | hello, my dmesg is flooded with messages I don't understand. And my HDD light is always on. my DMESG output http://pastebin.com/m28a9e77b |
| 15:58 | <diego> | hello guys, can I get help with xorg, no mouse and no keyboard then I add option AllowEmptyInput, now I have duplicated keyboard events |
| 15:58 | <TCW_> | diego, try removing xorg.conf completeley |
| 15:58 | <Stemby> | everywhere, bremner |
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| 15:58 | <Stemby> | aptitude update fails |
| 15:59 | <Giertrud> | Ubuntu is based on Debian right |
| 15:59 | <Giertrud> | ? |
| 15:59 | <bremner> | Stemby: ok, that sounds like approx is not configured correctly |
| 15:59 | <Stemby> | Yes, Giertrud |
| 15:59 | <diego> | TCW_: how can that help ? |
| 15:59 | <TCW_> | BCDN, at least some piece of hardware is most likely broken there. I'd say the harddisk is failing, but it can be the cables, the chipset too |
| 15:59 | <diego> | TCW_: without xorg.xonf I cannot start gdm :S |
| 15:59 | <TCW_> | diego, modern xorg does NOT need that configfile anymore |
| 15:59 | <BCDN> | well the comp works fine |
| 16:00 | <diego> | ok then, I will rename it and try |
| 16:00 | <TCW_> | BCDN, the log says otherwise :) |
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| 16:00 | <TCW_> | diego, what gfx card? |
| 16:00 | <locklace> | TCW_: my thought is that you'd have to be barking mad to install it |
| 16:00 | <BCDN> | it also works fine with another drive |
| 16:00 | <Stemby> | bremner: I decommented a line |
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| 16:00 | <BCDN> | no flooded dmesg |
| 16:00 | <diego> | nvidia 8600 |
| 16:00 | <Stemby> | using a repo that works |
| 16:00 | <locklace> | leo: you're probably reduced to ndiswrapper, but paste "lspci -knn" output at http://paste.debian.net |
| 16:00 | <TCW_> | BCDN, another drive works? So I assume that the one giving you those errors is not :) |
| 16:01 | <locklace> | !tell leo about ndiswrapper |
| 16:01 | <BCDN> | and fsck, and SMART report no erreos |
| 16:01 | <Giertrud> | Okay, they seem to not be able to help over at freenode, and I have been trying to figure out a way to enable support for recording from stereo mix/what-u-hear(recording what the computer is playing through the speakers), but I cannot seem to find a way |
| 16:01 | <TCW_> | diego, binary drivers? |
| 16:01 | <BCDN> | exit |
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| 16:01 | <TCW_> | locklace, your thoughts were about grub2 I assume? :) |
| 16:01 | <diego> | TCW_: I downloaded something from nvidia that compiled for my kernel time ago |
| 16:02 | <locklace> | TCW_: got it in one |
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| 16:02 | <diego> | I cant understand how debian commits a change that will disable mouse/keyb by default, thats so stupid |
| 16:02 | <TCW_> | diego, oh great, I bet you will be screwed without a xorg.conf then :) |
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| 16:02 | <TCW_> | diego, it is not stupid and not debians fault |
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| 16:03 | <CaBa> | Giertrud: you won't get support for your ubuntu system here - or at least its very unlikely |
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| 16:03 | <ElectricMan> | Hi FOLKS! :) |
| 16:03 | <TCW_> | diego, and that you did install a not supported gfx driver is also not debians fault |
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| 16:03 | <leo> | http://paste.debian.net/52668/ |
| 16:04 | <TCW_> | locklace, ok... any facts on your thoughts? :) |
| 16:04 | <diego> | TCW_: actually Im not screwed without a xorg.conf, it is working |
| 16:04 | <diego> | thx about that |
| 16:04 | <diego> | I dont know if nvidia driver is being used |
| 16:04 | <TCW_> | diego, it is? And still the nvidia driver used? |
| 16:04 | <TCW_> | diego, so check? grep NVIDIA /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:04 | <Stemby> | bremner: decommented→uncommented, sorry |
| 16:05 | <Giertrud> | I'm not scared of using terminal .... was all I could use to edit the EEE I had at first, which stopped working because it did not like some of the changes. (Had a "commercialized" version of Linux) |
| 16:05 | <diego> | but some stuff is not working now ... let me check |
| 16:05 | <ElectricMan> | what extension of php should i have for it should work with apache and mysql? |
| 16:05 | <bremner> | Giertrud: if you have eee specific questions, there are some knowledgable people on #debian-eee |
| 16:06 | <noflash> | Giertrud, #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
| 16:06 | <leo> | locklace, I have the windows driver....how do I install this exe? |
| 16:06 | <Giertrud> | no not using the eee anymore |
| 16:06 | <Giertrud> | they haven't answered me YET there. |
| 16:06 | <hagisbasheruk> | #debian-eeepc even bremner |
| 16:06 | <bremner> | hagisbasheruk: oops. |
| 16:06 | <diego> | TCW_: its using vesa |
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| 16:06 | <Giertrud> | It happens in real life too...now I have a ZaReason |
| 16:07 | <diego> | and also webcam is not working anymore cause |
| 16:07 | <Giertrud> | it's better, by all means |
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| 16:07 | <diego> | something is not loaded , damn, can I still use my xorg.conf |
| 16:07 | <bremner> | Stemby: you'll have to check logs etc to see what is going on with approx. |
| 16:07 | <diego> | how somehow ? |
| 16:07 | <TCW_> | diego, so I suppose (don't have a nvidia anymore in any box) you need a _very_ basic xorg.conf with only the gfx card specific stuff, no hid definitions |
| 16:07 | <Giertrud> | Maybe I will just write to them and have to wait until Monday. Dang. |
| 16:08 | <TCW_> | diego, sure... |
| 16:08 | <hagisbasheruk> | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC diego |
| 16:08 | <Giertrud> | so that's all |
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| 16:08 | <diego> | TCW_: I dont understand you, what should I leave in xorg.conf? |
| 16:09 | <TCW_> | diego, just comment / remove the options for your mouse / keyboard |
| 16:09 | <diego> | ok, I will try |
| 16:09 | <TCW_> | diego, I am not an expert there (getting a minimal xorg.conf) but I think it should work |
| 16:10 | <Stemby> | bremner: where is the log? Not in /var/log... |
| 16:10 | <TCW_> | essentially you only need the gfx card definition |
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| 16:10 | <locklace> | TCW_: i have a simple philosophy about boot loaders, which is that the one i use should be rock solid, or the closest thing to that available. unstable's grub2 clearly fails this test, and that's in the simplest scenarios, not your nightmare one |
| 16:11 | <bremner> | Stemby: try /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 16:11 | <TCW_> | locklace, you call that a nightmare? Just a liitle bit lvm, raid and crypt? :) |
| 16:12 | <curt> | TCW_, one of my dedicated servers down in Texas is currently unbootable after I upgraded to grub2 and I have raid/lvm so right now my suggestion would be to hold off. |
| 16:12 | <TCW_> | grub is on hold for several weeks now here, I wonder how long it will take :) |
| 16:12 | <locklace> | TCW_: when grub is our best boot loader, yeah, i call it a nightmare |
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| 16:13 | <TCW_> | locklace, yeah, I get what you say, I was just kidding |
| 16:13 | <curt> | TCW_, i don't know but if you don't have access directly to the machine you could end up kind of screwed like me |
| 16:13 | <locklace> | leo: you already seem to have a driver loaded for your card, ssb. what's the output of "iwconfig"? |
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| 16:14 | <TCW_> | curt, I would _never_ run sid on a not physically accessible system and by all means not on a productive one. |
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| 16:14 | <locklace> | TCW_: i have this dream involving ponies, rainbows, white fluffy clouds, and a simple boot loader that always works |
| 16:14 | <TCW_> | locklace, hehe |
| 16:14 | <Ignaz> | hi |
| 16:14 | <curt> | TCW_, I am running testing and got screwed when I ran the update-from-legacy-grub script then rebooted |
| 16:14 | <diego> | TCW_: I don't get it , is there a way to have old behaviour |
| 16:15 | <TCW_> | diego, what release do you run? |
| 16:15 | <diego> | I just noticed the vertical edge scroll was not working, I just want old behaviour |
| 16:15 | <Stemby> | bremner: http://paste.debian.net/52670/ |
| 16:15 | <diego> | TCW_: how to check ? |
| 16:15 | <TCW_> | diego, ask the admin? |
| 16:15 | <diego> | I disabled AllowEmptyInput |
| 16:15 | <diego> | AllowAddDevices |
| 16:15 | <TCW_> | diego, have a look at /etc/debian_version |
| 16:16 | <diego> | AllowEnableDevices |
| 16:16 | <bremner> | Stemby: paste approx.conf ? |
| 16:16 | <diego> | oh, squeeze/sid |
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| 16:16 | <TCW_> | diego, and why do you complain then? |
| 16:16 | <Jowi> | hi everyone |
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| 16:17 | <Ignaz> | howdy, Jowi |
| 16:17 | <diego> | TCW_: I just want to use my old xorg.conf configuration that had all working |
| 16:17 | <TCW_> | diego, by all means, sid is NOT suitable for you |
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| 16:18 | <Stemby> | bremner: http://paste.debian.net/52671/ |
| 16:18 | <TCW_> | diego, then install Debian stable and NOT a development distro like sid |
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| 16:18 | <diego> | TCW_: stable is too old , do you know how to get old behaviour ? |
| 16:18 | <curt> | TCW_, either that or he's running some flavor of ubuntu .. they return squeeze/sid in /etc/debian_version |
| 16:19 | <diego> | curt: I dont run ubuntu |
| 16:19 | <diego> | curt: this is debian sid |
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| 16:19 | <curt> | diego, try testing at |
| 16:20 | <diego> | I just want to have the old xorg behaviour if possible |
| 16:20 | <TCW_> | curt, oops?! They do? |
| 16:20 | <curt> | diego, sid would drive me nuts for any day to day use unless I was developing something I wouldn't use it |
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| 16:20 | <bremner> | Stemby: did you restart approx? |
| 16:21 | <curt> | TCW_, yes .. I am on a kubuntu install right now and that's what I get |
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| 16:21 | <Stemby> | yes, brember |
| 16:21 | <diego> | TCW_: well, I can tell you this is not ubuntu, I hate ubuntu for things just like this :D |
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| 16:21 | <diego> | debian never breaks on updates ,... but this |
| 16:22 | <Jowi> | diego, I think the old xorg.conf way of doing things is going away everywhere (all major distros is upgrading). xrandr et al is where it's at. what's the prob btw? |
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| 16:22 | <TCW_> | http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/index.html <- diego, read this, get rid of sid! It may take work on your side to get whatever behaviour you want back! In *this* regard debian sid / unstable is as bad as ubuntu... |
| 16:22 | <Stemby> | bremner, now it works, maybe |
| 16:22 | <diego> | Jowi: if I deleted my old xorg.conf then some stuff is not working |
| 16:23 | <Jowi> | diego, define "stuff" for me please |
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| 16:23 | <TCW_> | curt, I am shocked, really! |
| 16:23 | <diego> | I want it to use nvidia driver |
| 16:23 | <diego> | I want the vertical mouse scroll |
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| 16:23 | <diego> | and my webcam wont work |
| 16:23 | <curt> | TCW_, about /etc/debian_version or me using kubuntu |
| 16:24 | <TCW_> | curt, you can say... both :) |
| 16:24 | <stephane> | Hi !! a question about KDE4. Is there a plasmoid to provide any package update in the tasks bar like Gnome ? |
| 16:24 | <mojo> | hellooooooooooooo |
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| 16:24 | <diego> | cause glx wont run |
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| 16:24 | <TCW_> | diego, so what is your plan now? |
| 16:24 | <Stemby> | bremner, yes, now it works! |
| 16:25 | <diego> | keep trying |
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| 16:25 | <TCW_> | diego, so you insist on unstable (sid)? |
| 16:25 | <bremner> | !win Stemby |
| 16:25 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, Stemby! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 16:25 | <Stemby> | I think I didn't test it after the restart... |
| 16:25 | <Stemby> | thanks dpkg :-) |
| 16:26 | <diego> | I will be back after a reboot, yes, I insist, debian stable has really old packages |
| 16:26 | <diego> | I would use Windows instead of stable |
| 16:26 | <diego> | is really fucking old, I liked debian testing as is not that old |
| 16:26 | <Jowi> | diego, all old switches for xorg.conf should still work but are now optional (as far as I've experimented). There's still the xorg.conf example file /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg/examples/xorg.conf |
| 16:27 | <TCW_> | diego, so most people (me including) won't be very supportive, good luck |
| 16:27 | <curt> | !tell diego about unstable->testing |
| 16:27 | <diego> | I will be back after a reboot to see what I get, thx so much for the help |
| 16:27 | <Jowi> | so it's only if you wish to override the defaults. good luck |
| 16:27 | <diego> | why wouldnt you help me because running testing |
| 16:28 | <diego> | Im not blaming anyone, just want help on testing |
| 16:28 | <diego> | :P |
| 16:28 | <diego> | I understand it can break, I just want to fix it ;) |
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| 16:29 | <TCW_> | <diego> why wouldnt you help me because running testing <- aha... he wanted to help, but had no idea what he was running on, good one, really! |
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| 16:29 | <TCW_> | oops, I got that sentence wrong, nevermind :) |
| 16:29 | <curt> | haha |
| 16:29 | <Stemby> | bremner: using a browser, what is the content into http://localhost:9999/debian ? It isn't the same of /var/cache/approx/debian |
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| 16:30 | <bremner> | Stemby, no you have to go to dists to get something sensible |
| 16:30 | <TCW_> | anyhw... as wine does not work with radeon for this game... bbl, RedmondOS-session :) |
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| 16:32 | <diego> | hi there, got better, everything works but one little thing |
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| 16:32 | <Stemby> | ok, thank you very much bremner |
| 16:32 | <diego> | I disabled all input devices from xorg.conf, now they are being detected |
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| 16:32 | <Stemby> | bye |
| 16:32 | <SuperNubLv1> | Hello? |
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| 16:32 | <diego> | but my touchpad vertical scroll is not working |
| 16:32 | <Ignaz> | hi, SuperNubLv1 |
| 16:33 | <Jowi> | hi SuperNubLv1 |
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| 16:33 | <diego> | Jowi / TCW_: can you help with that :D ? |
| 16:33 | <Jowi> | diego, well, my first thing to try would be to install gsynaptics |
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| 16:34 | <diego> | I already have that |
| 16:34 | <diego> | I want to enable the tap button options and set VertEdgeScroll to 1 |
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| 16:35 | <diego> | gsynaptics shows enabled, but it wont work |
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| 16:36 | <Jowi> | diego, so you run gsynaptics and enable vertical scrolling and it does not work? |
| 16:36 | <diego> | Jowi: its showing to be enabled, but it does not work |
| 16:36 | <diego> | I try to scroll on firefox and it wont |
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| 16:37 | <diego> | it was working with VertEdgeScroll = 1 on my old config |
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| 16:37 | <diego> | I remember actually, I had to add that line |
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| 16:38 | <Jowi> | have you tried to disable that line? |
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| 16:39 | <diego> | tryed, wont help |
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| 16:39 | <babilen> | diego: have a look at XStrikeForce on the wiki ... 'locate 11-synaptics.fdi' copy that file to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ and edit according to your needs |
| 16:40 | <diego> | the thing is , connecting another mouse, scroll will work just fine, its just my touchpad |
| 16:40 | <Jowi> | diego, have you tried asking in #debian-x? they should have input specific info. For me gsynaptics have never failed. |
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| 16:41 | <diego> | well, thx, I will look for XStrikeForce and will ask in debian-x |
| 16:41 | <diego> | thanks for the help |
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| 16:42 | <zal> | yo debbies |
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| 16:44 | <nasha007> | hello people |
| 16:44 | <Ignaz> | hi, nasha007 |
| 16:44 | <nasha007> | How are you Ignaz :) |
| 16:45 | <nasha007> | I found about this channel from Debian site, |
| 16:45 | <Ignaz> | fine, thx |
| 16:45 | <nasha007> | I was having some problem and couldnt find the solution somewhere... |
| 16:45 | <nasha007> | can u help me out ? :) |
| 16:45 | <babilen> | nasha007: sure, just ask |
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| 16:46 | <nasha007> | I just installed Debian Lenny 5.0 64-bit on a OVH server |
| 16:46 | <nasha007> | after setting up gnome, and installing vncserver.. when I login to vnc, I cannot click/access the taskbar :S |
| 16:46 | <nasha007> | I can click on folder and stuff, but taskbar doesnt work :S |
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| 16:49 | <Jowi> | nasha007, are you using compositing effects? if so, try to disable them temporary to see if that helps. |
| 16:49 | <Ignaz> | or reset the xserver |
| 16:50 | <nasha007> | Jowi: How do I do that ? |
| 16:50 | <nasha007> | i did a reboot |
| 16:50 | <nasha007> | before the reboot , i could click it |
| 16:50 | <nasha007> | but the keyboard mapping was wrong. |
| 16:50 | <nasha007> | so, i added export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 to xstartup |
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| 16:50 | <nasha007> | after the reboot, I cannot click taskbar |
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| 16:51 | <Jowi> | nasha007, well, I haven't used gnome in a while, but it should be in preferences > desktop effects somewhere. |
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| 16:52 | <Ignaz> | system -> settings -> appearance -> visual effects |
| 16:52 | <nasha007> | Jowi: I can't access the Preferences or anything on the Menu taskbar, My mouse wont click anything |
| 16:52 | <Ignaz> | Jowi, but its unreachable |
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| 16:53 | <Ignaz> | nasha007, try [ctrl]+[alt]+[backspace] |
| 16:53 | <Jowi> | you said you could click on anything else right? so open a terminal |
| 16:53 | <Jowi> | type in gnome- and press tab to get a list of gnome commands. the settings for the desktop effects will be listed there... |
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| 16:54 | <Jowi> | CTRL-F2 is still the shortcut for "run" I believe. |
| 16:54 | <Ignaz> | yep |
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| 16:54 | <Ignaz> | gnome-apperance-properties is the command |
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| 16:55 | <nasha007> | hmmm strange, Ctrl-F2 doesnt do anything, |
| 16:55 | <nasha007> | nothing with ctrl+alt+backspace |
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| 16:55 | <nasha007> | Ignaz: with that command it says -bash: gnome-apperance-properties: command not found |
| 16:56 | <nasha007> | need to do a reformat ? :) |
| 16:56 | <raylu> | alt+f2, i believe |
| 16:56 | <babilen> | nasha007: gnome-appearance-properties ;-) ( 'a' was missing ) |
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| 16:57 | <Ignaz> | difficult word :) |
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| 16:57 | <nasha007> | thanks babilen |
| 16:57 | <nasha007> | it says: |
| 16:57 | <nasha007> | (gnome-appearance-properties:5401): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 16:57 | <nasha007> | (gnome-appearance-properties:5402): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 16:57 | <raylu> | nasha007: that's normal and can be safely ignored |
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| 16:58 | <Jowi> | nasha007, are you using VNC or ssh? |
| 16:58 | <nasha007> | VNC Jowi :) |
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| 16:58 | <nasha007> | u know the taskbar on top, which has applications, Places etc on it.? I can not click on anyof those.. clicking doesnt work |
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| 16:59 | <nasha007> | but, I can right click on desktop, or open up the Computer icon on desktop.. |
| 16:59 | <nasha007> | Kinda strange :S.. never had problem like this with 4.0 Etch :S |
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| 17:01 | <Jowi> | I found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg682913.html |
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| 17:02 | <Jowi> | third answer is telling http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg682980.html |
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| 17:03 | <nasha007> | ahhhh ! |
| 17:03 | <nasha007> | Jowi !... Thanks a lot ! :D |
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| 17:03 | <Jowi> | that's a nasty bug though :) |
| 17:03 | <nasha007> | used this : /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 17:04 | <Jowi> | so that worked? |
| 17:04 | <nasha007> | I thought, I was doing something wrong.. I reformatted it like 10 times :D |
| 17:04 | <nasha007> | yes Jowi, I can click on taskbar now ! :) |
| 17:04 | <nasha007> | Thank You Very Much ! :D |
| 17:04 | <Jowi> | weird. you're welcome |
| 17:04 | <nasha007> | :) |
| 17:04 | <nasha007> | I am gonna hang in this channel, so I can learn more :) |
| 17:04 | <nasha007> | Appreciate it :) |
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| 17:05 | <Jowi> | bbl. see you around |
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| 17:22 | <babilen> | nasha007: \o/ |
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| 17:23 | <nasha007> | :D |
| 17:23 | <nasha007> | fixed it babilen :) |
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| 17:24 | <babilen> | yeah, just came back and read the backlog .. just wanted to express \o/ |
| 17:24 | <nasha007> | now having problem with wine :D |
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| 17:24 | <nasha007> | I installed wine on debian 32bit this morning, was easy.. |
| 17:24 | <nasha007> | 64-bit is bugging me :D |
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| 17:33 | <diego> | hello, cannot get compiz working |
| 17:33 | <diego> | Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present. |
| 17:34 | <diego> | any ideas? |
| 17:34 | <amphi> | diego: the compiz wiki has loads of useful info |
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| 17:43 | <magvay2007> | Hi All !! |
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| 17:44 | <handheldCar> | HEY!!! |
| 17:44 | <Guest405> | hi there, I have problems finding the right entry for sources.list to update myself ;) |
| 17:44 | <Ignaz> | hey, magvay2007!! |
| 17:44 | <Ignaz> | !pie magvay2007 |
| 17:44 | * | dpkg hits magvay2007 in the face with a cream pie |
| 17:44 | <@Ganneff> | dont play |
| 17:44 | <abrotman> | Guest405: update yourself to what ? |
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| 17:44 | <@Ganneff> | !sources.list |
| 17:44 | <dpkg> | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 17:45 | <DebianSarge> | abrotman: I didn't realize that "Sarge" was not a valid nick ,) |
| 17:45 | <abrotman> | Guest405: update yourself to what ? |
| 17:46 | <DebianSarge> | http://www.huschi.net/16_347_de-debian-sarge-sources-list.html inserts a debian-archive compared to the official statement |
| 17:46 | <DebianSarge> | but both wouldn't work |
| 17:46 | <abrotman> | why are you using sarge? |
| 17:46 | <DebianSarge> | ref. http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
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| 17:46 | <DebianSarge> | I will update that server as well some day, but I need to migrate 1000 users from a ldap |
| 17:47 | <abrotman> | see archive.debian.org |
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| 17:47 | <DebianSarge> | yes, they state deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge contrib main non-free |
| 17:47 | <DebianSarge> | but this wouldn't work |
| 17:47 | <abrotman> | wouldn't work why? |
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| 17:48 | <DebianSarge> | 302 redirect |
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| 17:48 | <handheldCar> | Did you update aptitude? |
| 17:48 | <DebianSarge> | Failed to fetch http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Redirect |
| 17:48 | <@Ganneff> | he is in sarge |
| 17:49 | <@Ganneff> | sarge apt cant do this |
| 17:49 | <DebianSarge> | this happens when I do apt-get update |
| 17:49 | <@Ganneff> | http://ftp.de.debian.org/archive/debian/ |
| 17:49 | <DebianSarge> | but the packages are there. To be honest, I never understood how the apt-sources entries relate to the ftp paths |
| 17:49 | <@Ganneff> | use that |
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| 17:49 | <jpinx-eeepc> | !sarge->etch |
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| 17:50 | <jpinx-eeepc> | dpkg: sarge->etch |
| 17:50 | <dpkg> | Read the release notes, ask me about <etch release notes>. The recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the procedure in the release notes. Also ask me about <etch security>. It's time to put those upgrade plans into action, as Sarge security support ended on 31 March 2008 (http://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080229). |
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| 17:51 | <DebianSarge> | Ganneff: Failed to fetch http://ftp.de.debian.org/archive/debian/dists/sarge/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 302 Redirect |
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| 17:52 | <DebianSarge> | at the moment I just want to fix a corrupt apt-database to be able to use apt anyway on that Sarge machine, so I wonder why the entries are not working that are stated on archive.debian.org |
| 17:52 | <magvay2007> | My problem is GeForce 8600GT and a KDE 4 bugs if you switch effect it |
| 17:52 | <DebianSarge> | I managed to download packages one by one. |
| 17:52 | <magvay2007> | Who are faced with this ? |
| 17:53 | <DebianSarge> | now, nonregarding versions, is there any howto about what the deb lines mean exactly? |
| 17:53 | <jpinx-eeepc> | DebianSarge: why are you using sarge? |
| 17:53 | <DebianSarge> | what path is refered by foo.deb.foo/debian main? |
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| 17:54 | <DebianSarge> | jpinx-eeepc: I will update that server as well some day, but I need to migrate 1000 users from a ldap |
| 17:54 | <jpinx-eeepc> | ffs! |
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| 17:55 | <DebianSarge> | shame on me |
| 17:56 | <DebianSarge> | I forgot to set up the proxy env. Now it works |
| 17:56 | * | jpinx-eeepc can't remember anything about etch - let alone sarge ...... |
| 17:56 | <DebianSarge> | there was no eeepc with woody either ;) |
| 17:56 | <DebianSarge> | k, seeyis |
| 17:56 | <DebianSarge> | n8 |
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| 18:03 | <anye> | I'm having trouble loading the opti9xx ALSA module. Please look: http://paste.debian.net/52681 |
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| 18:15 | <curt> | !poke abrotman |
| 18:15 | * | dpkg pokes abrotman with a severed Red Hat user's finger |
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| 18:15 | <abrotman> | hi? |
| 18:15 | <curt> | good one |
| 18:15 | <curt> | busy? |
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| 18:16 | <abrotman> | not really, why ? |
| 18:17 | <curt> | I have been hanging out over at freenode in #grub all day but i am not really getting very far |
| 18:17 | <abrotman> | with? |
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| 18:19 | <curt> | I have a dedicated server (debian testing) in Texas that won't boot after I upgraded from legacy grub .. I have software raid and lvm and the mdadm seems to not be being initialized so grub2 doesn't recognize the boot partition |
| 18:20 | <abrotman> | i wouldn't be much help |
| 18:20 | <curt> | I have been trying to walk a level2 admin through running a livecd to chroot into the existing install to maybe fix the mdadm but it's not going to well |
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| 18:21 | <abrotman> | AFAIK, grub2 should be fine with that |
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| 18:22 | <curt> | honestly over in #grub they seem to be worried about enhanced build environments and getting fancy splash screens but when simple things don't work they aren't muc help |
| 18:23 | <curt> | that's what i thought .. grub2 should be pretty mature but chainloading from legacy worked just fine |
| 18:23 | <shadowcat> | I'm just happy if osmeone could fix my grub problem |
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| 18:23 | <shadowcat> | :( |
| 18:23 | <shadowcat> | it's stuck on post install |
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| 18:24 | <curt> | shadowcat, ya .. and I am trying to fix it on a remote system... |
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| 18:25 | <shadowcat> | curt: that means we're both not getting any sleep tonight |
| 18:26 | <curt> | I can't do much about it .. tech admin just mailed saying he can't get the system to boot from the cd |
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| 18:27 | <curt> | i did backup .. very recently .. but just the usr data stuff /home /www so I may be reinstalling this whole system |
| 18:28 | <curt> | shadowcat, what issues are you having? |
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| 18:32 | <shadowcat> | curt: right now, it just dumps me into grub rescue |
| 18:32 | <shadowcat> | :( |
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| 18:36 | <curt> | shadowcat, I am flying off the seat of my pant here but if you didn't even get a menu try insmod normal; then normal; |
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| 18:42 | <abrotman> | modprobe |
| 18:42 | <shadowcat> | wonderful |
| 18:42 | <shadowcat> | no normal mode |
| 18:42 | <curt> | that what I get for not checking first |
| 18:43 | <Rhapsody> | Doe anyone have any idea why PCSX-df was removed from Debian after Lenny? There's a version for some architectures in sid, but it seems it generally got up to 1.816 (a pretty old release), then vanished. Did it just not have a maintainer? |
| 18:43 | <Rhapsody> | Forgive me if this is the wrong place. |
| 18:43 | <shadowcat> | I'm gonna try the netinstall cd |
| 18:43 | <shadowcat> | and see if I can force the cd to install grub1 |
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| 18:44 | <jpinx-eeepc> | judd: versions PCSX-df |
| 18:44 | <judd> | jpinx-eeepc: PCSX-df -- |
| 18:45 | <jpinx-eeepc> | Rhapsody: it's not in any release - unless you're using the wrong name/typo? |
| 18:45 | <Rhapsody> | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/pcsx-df |
| 18:45 | <Rhapsody> | What's that then? |
| 18:45 | <abrotman> | case-sensitive |
| 18:45 | <jpinx-eeepc> | judd: versions pcsx-df |
| 18:45 | <judd> | jpinx-eeepc: pcsx-df -- lenny: 1:1.816-1 |
| 18:46 | <jpinx-eeepc> | !why is pcsx-df not in squeeze |
| 18:46 | <dpkg> | jpinx-eeepc: I think you lost me on that one |
| 18:46 | <Rhapsody> | This is why I'm confused. |
| 18:46 | <jpinx-eeepc> | abrotman: how does that factoid go? |
| 18:47 | <Rhapsody> | So yeah, three new release since 1.816, the latest being from March 2009. But it's gone in Debian. |
| 18:48 | <abrotman> | it doesn't matter .. it's not in sid either |
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| 18:49 | <jpinx-eeepc> | ffr - what's the syntax of that factiod? |
| 18:50 | <curt> | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=pcsx-df |
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| 18:52 | <simonrvn> | jpinx-eeepc: '...not in testing' |
| 18:52 | <curt> | !why is pcsx-df not in testing |
| 18:52 | <dpkg> | pcsx-df is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=pcsx-df |
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| 18:57 | <abrotman> | i already said .. it doesn't matter |
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| 19:03 | <jpinx-eeepc> | thanks simonrvn & curt |
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| 19:09 | <simonrvn> | jpinx-eeepc: otay |
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| 19:11 | <jpinx-eeepc> | I just nneded to remember the syntax |
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| 19:13 | <curt> | abrotman, why would changing the motherboard effect networking? http://paste.debian.net/52688/ |
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| 19:13 | <abrotman> | curt: udev |
| 19:13 | <curt> | abrotman, I hate to bother but I have been going at this all day and my brain is almost out of jiuce |
| 19:13 | <abrotman> | !70 |
| 19:13 | <dpkg> | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
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| 19:14 | <simonrvn> | affect |
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| 19:15 | <curt> | ha simonrvn I did say my brain is about fried didn't I? |
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| 19:26 | <cesc> | sh finger |
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| 19:34 | <Nemoder> | Rhapsody: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514446 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=510530 |
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| 19:46 | <dsl> | hello |
| 19:47 | <dsl> | como mierda se usa esto |
| 19:47 | <handheldCar> | !es |
| 19:47 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:47 | <dsl> | ok |
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| 19:50 | <nse> | Spanish sounds funny to me in any situation. |
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| 20:24 | * | handheldCar thought handheldCar installed mySQL, but apparently it didn't install. |
| 20:25 | <petemc> | how did you install it? |
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| 20:36 | <linac> | is totem only based on gstreamer now in sid? xine backend seem unavailable |
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| 20:38 | <diego> | Hi there, I updated to grub2 some time ago and now it takes a long time until the menu is displayed with a "Loading GRUB" text screen, then the graphical menu comes, timeout=5 secs and boots |
| 20:38 | <diego> | I dont want it to take time to see the menu |
| 20:38 | <diego> | what can be happening ? |
| 20:39 | <abrotman> | judd: versions totem-xine |
| 20:39 | <judd> | abrotman: totem-xine -- etch: 2.16.5-3 lenny: 2.22.2-5 squeeze: 2.26.3-1 sid: 2.28.3-1 |
| 20:41 | <chealer> | linac: no |
| 20:43 | <linac> | i used to run totem-xine script that call xine backend. but now there are no that script. so i don't know how to run totem based on xine |
| 20:44 | <homer_simpson> | diego, i think you'll have to edit /etc/default/grub |
| 20:44 | <homer_simpson> | there you'll change the timeout to 0 |
| 20:44 | <homer_simpson> | and run # update-grub2 |
| 20:45 | <anye> | Sorry for the repeat, but in case someone who knows the answer missed it: I'm having trouble loading the opti9xx ALSA module. Please look: http://paste.debian.net/52681 |
| 20:45 | <chealer> | linac: oh, you're right, it's only based on gstreamer now. sorry |
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| 20:48 | <abrotman> | anye: seriously? ISAPnP sound card? |
| 20:48 | <Guest422> | hi, my network adapter is suddenly not being detected. it was working fine up until today. now, WICD freezes on start and the network connection tray icon displays a small red circle with a line through it. when clicked it says "SIOCGIFFLAGS: no such device" |
| 20:49 | <abrotman> | anye: whyat's the CPU on the machine ? |
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| 20:50 | <bombadil_> | i have no idea what changed. i did uninstall netatalk, but it was working fine after that as well... i also installed bacula then uninstalled it |
| 20:50 | <bombadil_> | i'm wondering if it took something with it when i uninstalled that was needed |
| 20:50 | <dli> | Guest416, does a reboot fix it? |
| 20:50 | <bombadil_> | however my network adapter's driver is built into the kernel |
| 20:50 | <bombadil_> | no it doesn't :( |
| 20:50 | <anye> | Pentium M 166 MHz |
| 20:52 | <anye> | I haven't looked inside the box, but from what I can tell it is an ISA PnP sound card. |
| 20:52 | <dli> | bombadil_, sometimes, my NIC is lost, and the only way to find it back is rebooting |
| 20:52 | <dli> | bombadil_, my NIC card is ath5k (wifi) |
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| 20:53 | <diego> | its before the timeout |
| 20:53 | <diego> | home_simpson: before loading the menu it takes time :( |
| 20:54 | <bombadil_> | dli: thanks for the suggestion but i've already tried rebooting several times |
| 20:54 | <bombadil_> | mine is an atheros ethernet |
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| 20:54 | <bombadil_> | i built the driver for it into the kernel |
| 20:55 | <dli> | bombadil_, try to make it module, so you can play with rmmod/modprobe |
| 20:55 | <dli> | bombadil_, also, did you check the obvious, like: ifconfig -a, maybe, it's renamed to another eth? |
| 20:56 | <dli> | bombadil_, have a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 20:57 | <bombadil_> | dli, eth0 is not even listed anymore under ifconfig -a :( |
| 20:57 | <bombadil_> | ok one moment |
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| 20:57 | <bombadil_> | the thing is it had been working fine for months |
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| 20:59 | <bombadil_> | dli: under etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, my acl1c driver is listed |
| 20:59 | <bombadil_> | should i be looking for anything specific ? |
| 21:00 | <dli> | bombadil_, whether it's set for another eth |
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| 21:01 | <bombadil_> | nope it's still eth0 |
| 21:01 | <bombadil_> | the card is no longer showing up under lspci either i don't think |
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| 21:01 | <bombadil_> | i wonder if it crapped out |
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| 21:02 | <dli> | bombadil_, right, if lspci doesn't show it, the only hope would be BIOS |
| 21:02 | <dli> | bombadil_, maybe, it's disabled by BIOS, otherwise, have to test it on another box |
| 21:03 | <bombadil_> | it is a netbook |
| 21:03 | <bombadil_> | but i can try a live USB |
| 21:03 | <dli> | bombadil_, BIOS, if possible |
| 21:04 | <bombadil_> | just checked, LAN is enabled |
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| 21:05 | <dli> | bombadil_, tough, maybe, it's broken. yes, try liveUSZB |
| 21:06 | <bombadil_> | i will thanks for your help, i will report back in a bit |
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| 21:09 | <creeed> | how can I access from my local machine to my webserver using the lan ip address (example http://192.168.2.2:80) |
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| 21:09 | <creeed> | I get access just with http://localhst:80! |
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| 21:11 | <shadowlee> | hi i try aptitude install vsftpd on my system debian lenny amd64 but i cant find file vsftpd.conf ? only find this /usr/sbin/vsftpd |
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| 21:11 | <darkpurpose> | bombadil: how did you check to find that "LAN is enabled"?? |
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| 21:35 | <curt> | shadowcat, dpkg -L vsftpd will show what files are installed with the package .. vsftpd.conf is in /etc/vsftpd.conf |
| 21:35 | <shadowcat> | ... |
| 21:35 | <shadowcat> | I don't recall asking a question about vsftpd |
| 21:35 | <curt> | shadowcat, sorry about that |
| 21:35 | <shadowcat> | btw curt, I managed to fix the grub problem |
| 21:35 | <shadowcat> | install grub-legacy |
| 21:35 | <curt> | shadowcat, nice |
| 21:36 | <shadowcat> | have it generate a new menu.lst file |
| 21:36 | <shadowcat> | by using the upgrade-grub command |
| 21:36 | <shadowcat> | then, install grub-pc from testing, and it should upgrade smoothly |
| 21:36 | <curt> | shadowcat, i should have never run that update-from-legacy-grub script |
| 21:36 | <shadowcat> | make sure that you're ONLY upgrading grub when you're doing it |
| 21:37 | <shadowcat> | upgrading the rest of the system when upgrading grub will screw things up |
| 21:37 | <shadowcat> | at least, that's what it did for me |
| 21:37 | <shadowcat> | curt: it worked fine here |
| 21:37 | <shadowcat> | but I did it from a clean menu.lst file generated by update-grub |
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| 21:39 | <newsense> | i want to run a virtual machine and see there are many options, kvm seems to be the fastest from what i have read, can anyone recommend a virtualization method ? |
| 21:39 | <curt> | shadowcat, mine just happened to be lvm on top of raid and I think my troubles are in a bug mdadm or with the mkinitrd .. legacy-grub handled it ok somehow but grub2 the md array isn't initialized |
| 21:40 | <shadowcat> | curt: uhh, yeah, in that case you'll need to test it a lot more before you deploy grub2 |
| 21:40 | <shadowcat> | considering the fact that mdadm and mkinitrd are still somewhat iffy in squeeze |
| 21:40 | <shadowcat> | :/ |
| 21:40 | <shadowcat> | ' |
| 21:41 | <curt> | shadowcat, this is a testing install on a production server so I shouldn't really complain |
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| 21:42 | <shadowcat> | heh, well you should be fine then |
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| 21:45 | <chriz> | how can i boot a custom kernel? |
| 21:45 | <chriz> | there is no kernel command :( |
| 21:46 | <famelix> | Helo! |
| 21:46 | <famelix> | Do you understand Portuguese? |
| 21:46 | <chriz> | no |
| 21:46 | <famelix> | Ok, sorry, I in Brazil ! |
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| 21:46 | <famelix> | Good Night! |
| 21:47 | <famelix> | Thankyou! |
| 21:47 | <curt> | chriz, something is not setup right in your bootloader (grub) |
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| 22:17 | <bombadil_> | dli: just to update you, i found a solution. it's a bug in the kernel. i needed to take the battery out and put it back in |
| 22:17 | <bombadil_> | a documented bug |
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| 22:23 | <darkpurpose> | /exit |
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| 22:29 | <cirinho> | i need help for squid |
| 22:30 | <cirinho> | maximum_object_size is cache to hd or cache in men ram ? |
| 22:30 | <dli> | bombadil_, nice to hear that |
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| 22:42 | <pdragon> | can anyone tell me what debian distro came with gcc 2.4 ? |
| 22:43 | <abrotman> | you can look at archive.debian.org |
| 22:44 | <pdragon> | how can i tell what gcc it will have / |
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| 22:45 | <abrotman> | cirinho: uh what? |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | don't msg me |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | pdragon: in the Packages.gz |
| 22:45 | <pdragon> | k thanks |
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| 22:46 | <cirinho> | need some help on squid |
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| 22:46 | <abrotman> | cirinho: there is a #squid on freenode |
| 22:47 | <pdragon> | ok do i go in the dists for the distro to download and burn to disk >/ |
| 22:47 | <diego> | hi there, I have the following problem, when booting grub2 will enter to rescue mode before loading the menu loosing some time |
| 22:47 | <cirinho> | which address the server freenode? |
| 22:47 | <diego> | it displays [ Minimal Bash--like line editing is supp... ... a long time , like 5 secs |
| 22:47 | <diego> | then loads normal mode and I can then boot |
| 22:47 | <diego> | i dont want to waste those first 5 secs |
| 22:48 | <cirinho> | maximum_object_size the argument refers to the hd cache or cache memory ram |
| 22:48 | <diego> | and its not the timeout in grub.cfg |
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| 22:50 | <abrotman> | pdragon: i thought you just wanted to know which it was ? |
| 22:50 | <abrotman> | cirinho: irc.freenode.net |
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| 22:51 | <cirinho> | i try .org |
| 22:51 | <cirinho> | ok |
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| 22:52 | <abrotman> | pdragon: there's no need to msg me |
| 22:52 | <pdragon> | ok |
| 22:53 | <pdragon> | so how would i go about downloading debian woody 3.0 |
| 22:53 | <abrotman> | !cd archive |
| 22:53 | <dpkg> | A repository of older (unsupported) CD images can be found at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 22:53 | <pdragon> | o thanks |
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| 23:21 | <handheldCar> | Does anyone know if apache2 comes with dynamic shared objects (dso) capabilities? when i say apache2, i just mean whatever was installed when i selected web server during installation. |
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| 23:29 | <gsimmons> | handheldCar: Yes. |
| 23:30 | <handheldCar> | ok, but i think i had to install php. |
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