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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-12-05

---Logopened Sat Dec 05 00:00:45 2009
00:02<interbird>geany
00:02<GuilhermeCunha>xPhilosx, have an Gui version
00:02<GuilhermeCunha>wait to search here
00:03<xPhilosx>?
00:03<GuilhermeCunha>nvidia-settings
00:03<GuilhermeCunha>:D
00:03<xPhilosx>:)
00:03<xPhilosx>duh
00:03<xPhilosx>thanks buddy
00:03<xPhilosx>:D
00:03<interbird>geany is the most enligtening little editor/gui/ide imho
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00:07<xPhilosx>anyone have any experience with adesklets (not to be confused with gdesklets)?
00:07<interbird>no, but screenlets surpass gdesklets
00:07<int_80h>vi is the best ide
00:08<interbird>vi is no ide
00:08<int_80h>lol
00:08<xPhilosx>well adesklets is like a lightweight far more optimized gdesklets
00:08<xPhilosx>ill check out screenlets, im looking for lightweight thought
00:08<xPhilosx>*though
00:09<interbird>and screenlets is an optimized gdesklets...
00:09<xPhilosx>no compiz or any of that stuff, im running lxde and I intend to keep things light and snappy
00:10<interbird>then screenlets is not foryou
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00:10<interbird>s/ry/r y/
00:12<xPhilosx>yeah, adesklets runs without compiz and is nice and snappy (according to reviews)
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02:48<nefarious>hello
02:50<GuilhermeCunha>hi
02:51<nefarious>how is tonight going?
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03:25<tonylijo>hi
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04:15<Delano>Will Debian detect my nvidia gt 8600 card?
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04:20<cahoot>define detect
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04:21<cahoot>it certainly won't install nvidia proprietary drivers automagically
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04:21<gsimmons>Delano: The G84 chipset is supported in the nv and nvidia Xorg drivers available for Lenny.
04:25<grummund>Hi, i'd like to have exim bounce mail to a particular address, so i added this to my virtual aliases:-
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04:25<grummund>bugs-2007: :fail: Mailbox expired, please edit the address and try again
04:25<grummund>my understanding is that this should reject at smtp level with code 550 and including that message, but instead it rejects with "550 unknown user"
04:26<grummund>is my understanding of :fail: corrrect? in that the message should be used in the smtp response?
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05:07<box02>hi somebody there
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05:15<Supaplex>no, not even the people who are.
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07:49<Larrxi>does ubuntu ppa's works in debian?
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07:49<Larrxi>like xorg-edgers
07:52<dr|z3d>Larrxi: "Suck it and see". The anwser is "maybe". :)
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07:52<dr|z3d>*answer
07:52<dr|z3d>You might run into dependency issues, you might not.
07:52<Larrxi>i thought sid was that edge :(
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07:54<BlackFate>Larrxi, it is for most packages
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07:58<GattoDiSchrodinger>hi
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07:59<GattoDiSchrodinger>After yesterday updates kde will not start.I tried with 'apt-get install kde-minimal "but there are some missing dependencies
07:59<GattoDiSchrodinger>http://paste.debian.net/53165
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09:11<davide125>hi guys
09:12<davide125>I'd like to setup an instance of packages.debian.org for a private repo
09:12<davide125>are the sources available somewhere?
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09:21<locklace>!own repo
09:22<dpkg>Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./";, or see <reprepro>
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09:33<davide125>I have already setup a custom repository (using reprepro)
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09:33<davide125>what I wanted to do is to add a web interface like the one at packages.debian.org to be able to browse packages and their descriptions
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09:35<abrotman>davide125: you can check out that code
09:36<abrotman>not sure how hard it is to get running though
09:36<davide125>abrotman, thanks, where can I find the code?
09:39<abrotman>davide125: not sure, perhaps ask #debian-www
09:39<davide125>abrotman, will do, thank you
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10:54<damiank>hi anyone knows if i can install compiz with openchrome driver?
10:55<damiank>i was told that it doesnt work with via unichrome boards...
10:55<damiank>is that true?
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11:07<oznt>hi every, can some one give a short tip how to use Taglist with vim and python. I installed it, issuing :Tlist inside vim shows an empty tag list. What's next ?
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11:28<Lillymon>Ugh, ALSA's got stuck playing the same note (*AGAIN*) and "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0" has not stopped it. How the hell do I make ALSA shut up?
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11:28<Lillymon>It's just playing noise now, constantly.
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11:29<Lillymon>I can't believe the glitchiness of it, this happens once every few days, but rarely this persistently.
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11:31<locklace>you could try removing/reinserting the sound module with modprobe
11:34<Lillymon>I the end I found "alsa force-reload" to do the trick, except I then had to reset my soundcard to make it output again, then reset the mixer because ALSA messes with it whenever I do that. I really hate ALSA.
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11:36<acu>I am preety sure the Desktop team knows that KDE in Squeeze does not work - when you try to install kde-base or kde-full you get Depends: kde-minimal but it is not going to be installed
11:36<acu>If not any advise is apreciated
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11:58<robert>i tried debian yesterday and there was something i really didn't like. i tried to install stuff and it said i'm not a sudoer. its my computer if im not who is?
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12:01<ehren>robert: type su , hit enter, then your root password, make sure to type exit when you're finished with stuff that needs root permission
12:01<Marzikill>You have to edit the /etc/sudoers files
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12:02<robert>i figured the correct password would be sufficient
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12:21<jackyf>robertf: have you added yourself to group 'sudo'?
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12:22<axc6>hi all
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12:29<uldics>Anyone knows, why I have Firestarter firewall showing two active connections on ports 14590 and 48000 with unknown service and no program mentioned? lsof -i:14590 returns nothing. Ports are not listed in /etc/services
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12:32<babilen>uldics: The following script checks if the ports were opened by a program installed as a debian package: http://pastebin.com/f7d4df2b3
12:33<babilen>uldics: apart from that, try netstat and/or wireshark
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12:34<uldics>netstat does nothin about those 2 ports
12:35<t>you sound rootkitted
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12:35<babilen>uldics: try the script i gave you and also have a look at rkhunter
12:35<t>yeah and chkrootkit
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12:36<babilen>wireshark might also reveal something about the traffic on these ports.
12:36<nikola>hi , i cant get a 2048x1152 resolution on Ubuntu 9.10 with ATi Radeon 4650HD Graphic card.... any ideas ?
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12:36<babilen>nikola: not here. Try #ubuntu
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12:37<nikola>sry my bad
12:37<t>edit xorg.conf nikola
12:37<babilen>nikola: good luck ...
12:38<nikola>luck is the word lol :/
12:38<t>you should implement 'skill', much better than luck ;p
12:38<t>more reliable
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12:39<babilen>hehe
12:39<babilen>uldics: any progress?
12:39<rr0d>hello im running debian squeeze i get the following error when running gparted /usr/sbin/gpartedbin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: g_emblem_get_type
12:39<uldics>not yet
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12:42<t>babilen, i like your bash style
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12:43<babilen>foldl?
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12:44<t>you do any lisp?
12:44<t>evaluate (func (func (func lhs line1) line2) line3)
12:44<t>lol
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12:47<uldics> /usr/sbin/unhide [ Warning ]
12:47<uldics>what does that mean in rkhunter -check?
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12:48<gsimmons>rr0d: Known issue, see Debian bug #557742.
12:49<uldics>ok, so thats no rootkit there?
12:50<t>isnt unhide a part of john the ripper?
12:51<t>erm, nevermind
12:51<jmarsden>unhide is used by rkhunter :) man unhide
12:51<t>yeah i see that now
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12:51<t>well, i would do what babilen said and fire up wireshark
12:51<t>inspect the traffic on those ports
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12:58<oznt>hi guys, I'm really desperate already, trying more than 3 hours to get TagList and python code to work. Anyone here can help me with VIM and Taglist ?
12:58<patrikf>oznt: might try #vim on freenode
12:59<oznt>patrikf, I did, nobody there answers
12:59<oznt>I can get it to work with C codes ! But not with python ... It's really annoying
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13:28<wamty>how to list all startup services/deamons?
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13:31<wamty>how to list all startup services/deamons?
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13:43<Guest282>hello
13:43<retroj>hello. is the information on this page still relevant to Squeeze? http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm
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13:50<Guest282>is there any risk runnin e17 that's in experimental ?
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13:51<damiank>retroj i think it is
13:52<damiank>Guest282 i used some time ago and it worked ok
13:52<damiank>for a desktop
13:52<damiank>but i prefer to use something more stable
13:52<retroj>thanks
13:52<damiank>np
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13:53<damiank>you need to share an internet connection?
13:53<damiank>or just want to setup it as firewall?
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13:53<retroj>damiank: share an internet connection
13:54<damiank>the easiest way i found was to use firestarter
13:54<damiank>it has an assistant for that :)
13:54<retroj>ok
13:54<damiank>just do apt-get install firestarter
13:54<damiank>and then run firestarter, its quite easy to use
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13:55<Guest282>@ diamank > and by more stable you mean that crashes less ?
13:56<Guest282>or you couls aptitude install ufw - that's quiet a convenient noX UI for the netfilter
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13:57<Guest282>you basically then just have to type ufw enable as root and you're set
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13:57<Guest282>if you want, you can configure it in a finer way afterwards
13:58<retroj>ok, i'll look into those, thank you
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13:59<damiank>Guest282 i use a lot gnome and xfce in an old pc
13:59<damiank>e17 looks quite good, but its less stable
13:59<damiank>and i work with my pcs
13:59<damiank>so i need something that works ok
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14:01<Guest282>ok, i understand that you don't find it reliable
14:01<Guest282>I guess I'll try it in a VBox
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14:03<Guest282>I enjoyed the Elive, but I don't have to get anywhere away from my sidbox, so I thought I could give it a spin, but, as paradoxal as it may seem, I need an env. stable enough for productive purposes
14:03<damiank>Guest282: then use gnome, kde, xfce
14:03<damiank>forget the rest
14:04<damiank>altough people might disagree with me, i think theyre the most stable by far
14:04<damiank>e17, lxde, and others still need a lot until i consider them ready for working
14:05<Guest282>i'm not in the do-everything-alone-box thing, and e17 showed to be a *real* DE, that's why I was wondering
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14:05<Guest282>and since some late updates, I learned to go check on IRC first
14:05<damiank>anyway you should try it and get your own conclusion, if you find it doesnt do the job for you then decide for other de
14:06<Guest282>for the minimal style, there's screen, that is so cool there is no need for a WM on top of it
14:07<Guest282>anyway, thanks for sharing your view
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14:12<Halu>great
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14:13<Halu>30min using ubuntu 9.10, it froze when I was adding some mp3's to audacious player, and now, the OS doent allow me to log in no matter what
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14:14<jmarsden>Halu: Wrong channel, this is #debian. For Ubuntu support please ask in #ubuntu
14:15<jmarsden>Halu: #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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14:15<Halu>hehehe
14:15<Halu>i dont want ubuntu support
14:16<Halu>i'm trying debian now
14:16<Halu>i'll
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14:16*retroj laughs
14:16<Halu>ubuntu sucked with 30min of usage
14:16<Halu>--'
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14:16<adb>debian is faster ..
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14:17<retroj>Halu: you're quick to pass judgement :)
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14:17<Halu>ah come on
14:17<Halu>installed the 9.10 version
14:18<Halu>updated it right after the installation
14:18<Halu>updated the hardware drivers
14:18<retroj>Halu: i'm just saying that if you focus one one problem in one piece of software to judge an entire operating system, you're setting yourself up for disappointment
14:18<Halu>and it froze when i was just trying to play music --'
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14:18<Halu>and doesnt le me login now, i cant even fix it without reinstall
14:19<retroj>hehe
14:19<deref>Hi all. I have a few C libraries that I would like to contribute to Debian. Can someone point me in the right direction on how to go about doing so?
14:19<conor_>time out error
14:20<conor_>cheers
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14:21<jmarsden>deref: Package them. The New Maintainer Guide would be a reasonable place to start.
14:21<jmarsden>!nm
14:21<dpkg>somebody said nm was New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen; see http://nm.debian.org/ . A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never/No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. See also <maint-guide>, <networkmanager>.
14:21<jmarsden>!maint-guide
14:21<dpkg>A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) "www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar.
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14:22<deref>Thank you jmarsden, a quick google found the doc for me.
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14:22*Halu hmm, tomshardware's review said that ubuntu 9.10 is an "epic failure".... then i should try the 9.04.... noooo ;)
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14:23<retroj>Halu: i myself have never tried ubuntu... i went with debian on its reputation for stability... why install anything but the real deal? :)
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14:23<Halu>yeah, should have done that
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14:24<Halu>but where i live, and at my university
14:24<adb>Halu, run a memtest , who knows ?..
14:24<Halu>most of people uses it
14:25<Halu>why? my windows 7 is running well
14:26<Halu>hehehe
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14:27<Halu>so, i was trying to know ubuntu better, cause it can be usefull at work
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14:37<gustux>hi! help!! haha
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14:38<gustux>Apache gives me the following error: Invalid command 'Order', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
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14:40<danger>Hello everyone :D
14:41<gustux>Apache gives me the following error: Invalid command 'Order', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
14:41<gustux>helppppppp!!!
14:41<gustux>hahaa
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14:48<danger>Is there an equivalent of the Ubuntu NBR interface for Debian?
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15:02<retroj>what procedure would anybody recommend for figuring out what module i need to support my mainboard's nic?
15:05<chealer>retroj: first figuring out which chipset your mainboard's NIC uses.
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15:14<abrotman>danger: which is?
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15:15<enyawix>is compiz over mesa3d doable
15:15<retroj>sorry, disconnected. may have missed any response to my question. I would like to not have to manually do "ifup eth0" every time I boot. Any hints?
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15:15<abrotman>man 5 interfaces
15:15<jgoppert>I'm trying to package a meta package that depends on sudo-ldap, problem is that I have to export SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=yes, before sudo is removed, i tried in the meta.preinst to export the var but it didn't work, can anyone help?
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15:16<retroj>abrotman: many thanks
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15:17<t>retroj, edit /etc/network/interfaces to do auto up eth0
15:18<retroj>t: got it
15:21<t>:)
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15:33<azulreus>alguem pode me ajudar?
15:34<azulreus>!help
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15:34<hian>#debian-br
15:34<locklace>!br
15:34<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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15:59<cryan>how can i do a recovery disc
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16:03<florian>hello
16:04<florian>could someone here please give me a hand in getting my wireless card to work with Lenny? i've been trying a few things but nothing seems to work ... i'm out of ideas, and quite new to linux too
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16:08<omes>good day people. i'd be willing to adopt the currently orphaned package gpar2. where can i find more information on this? ive already read http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/index.html#howto-o, but im not a debian maintainer. is it possible somebody would be willing to sponsor me for this?
16:08<Guest296>hello
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16:08<babilen>florian: which card do you have?
16:09<babilen>florian: and what did you tried so far?
16:09<babilen>s/tried/try
16:09<florian>i have an atheros card, ehm ...ar22-something
16:09<florian>i tried installing the latest version of madwifi
16:09<babilen>omes: #debian-mentors might help
16:09<omes>thank you babilen
16:10<babilen>!atheros
16:10<dpkg>Atheros Communications is a developer of semiconductors. Ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k> for stable wireless LAN chipset drivers; <ar9170usb>, <ar9271> or <ar5523> for wireless drivers under development. The non-free <madwifi> driver was removed from Debian post-Lenny. Ask me about <atl1>, <atl2>, <atl1e> or <atl1c> for Ethernet adapter drivers. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros
16:10<omes>florian: do you have wirelesstools installed?
16:10<omes>florian: lets take this in the channel instead of in pm.
16:10<omes>youre more likely to get a working result faster
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16:11<babilen>florian: and /msg'ing people is usually not welcomed in here ...
16:11<omes>florian: try to isntall it then; open a terminal, and use the command apt-get install wirelesstools
16:12<babilen>s/apt-get/aptitude ;-)
16:12<florian>i'm sorry for the /msg it won't happen again
16:12<omes>babilen: apt-get ftw :P
16:12<t>./configure lol
16:12<Guest296>how to upgrade flash player? please
16:13<florian>the problem is that i can't connect to the internet now. i'm ircing from a windows laptop i have here, but the linux pc cant connect to the network because there's no ethernet
16:13<t>make ftw
16:13<florian>so apt-get is going to be a little bit difficult
16:13<babilen>omes: hence the ;-). But aptitude is the recommended package manager
16:14<t>it is
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16:14<t>but as long as it handles deps
16:14<omes>babilen: yes, and i can see why - unless you know what youre doing.
16:14<t>im suprised recommended isnt synaptic lol
16:14<omes>florian: try this: open a terminal and become root. (do you know how to do that?)
16:14<t>lol
16:15<Guest296>who can help me?
16:15<florian>hmmm ...can i get the wirelesstools as a .deb or .tar.gz file? than i can just transfer it using a thumb drive ...
16:15<t>lol
16:15<babilen>omes: exactly. And i guess it is a good idea to recommend aptitude in here. If people know what they are doing they will use apt-get anyway ... but back to the problem
16:15<babilen>!tell Guest296 -about flash
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16:16<omes>babilen: wow, you guys have a command for every problem dont you? :P
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16:16<t>lol
16:16<t>isnt that what commands are for?
16:17<omes>florian: do you have the terminal open yet?
16:17<omes>t: well, i guess it helps on the finger fatigue :P
16:17<florian>as i said i cant do apt-get because the linux pc has no working internet connection
16:17<omes>florian: first things first.
16:17<omes>like i said, you might already have it installed
16:17<florian>what i can do is get a tarball or deb package and transfer it using a thumb drive
16:18<omes>its even part of d-i now...
16:18<florian>oh ok ...sorry i didnt see. let me boot the linux pc real quick
16:18<omes>florian: yes, i know that. please just listen. you might already have wirelesstools installed, and that might do the trick
16:18<omes>florian: would that make you leave?
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16:18<omes>florian: is the pc you're on irc with the same as the one you want to get wireless to work on?
16:19<omes>cause in that case ill have you download the packages first before you reboot :P
16:19<florian>no. the pc i am using irc on is a windows pc.
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16:19<omes>florian: so its not the same computers?
16:19<florian>no
16:19<florian>the pc im using irc on is on the desk and the linux pc on my lap :P
16:20<omes>ok, goodie
16:20<omes>then boot it :P
16:20<florian>on it :P
16:20<florian>ok, do i need to be root?
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16:20<omes>yes
16:20<babilen>florian: Could you type 'lspci' on your netbook and give me the PCI ID of the wireless card? Something like: 00:00b (first column)
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16:21<florian>yup. hold on
16:21<vizor>florian: why don't you use cable connection to install all needed stuff?
16:21<babilen>vizor: no ethernet
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16:21<vizor>heh, good reason
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16:22<florian>02:00.0
16:22<Guest296>babilen: sorry i don't understand . you said me something about my pb?
16:23<babilen>!flash
16:23<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
16:23<florian>i dont have a lan cable here and the router's in the ...damn ...i dunno the english word. the little room where all the fuses and stuff are
16:23<babilen>Guest296: ^^^^
16:24<babilen>Guest296: you can /msg dpkg <???> (without the < and > )
16:24<florian>if i understand you and orca right the device id is 02:00.0
16:24<omes>babilen: what do you use to check what card it is based on the pci id?
16:24<blip2>problem: I can't click on flash video/games in iceweasle (i've tried reinstalling flashplugin) it detects where the mouse is and everything works except clicking - any ideas on debuging?
16:25<babilen>florian: Ah, i need the one from "lspci -nn" sorry about that
16:25<babilen>omes: be patient :-)
16:25<omes>babilen: sure.
16:26<omes>florian: do you have a shell open?
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16:26<vizor>florian: just give lspci|grep -i wireless output to us
16:26<vizor>from our shell
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16:26<omes>vizor: he would have to type it..
16:27<omes>there's no internet on that machine remember
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16:27<babilen>florian: and it is not the in the first column, but behind the name of the card within the [...] should look like: "104c:ac56"
16:28<florian>sorry i answer to slowly i have to wait for orca to rattle off the whole list all the time
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16:30<florian>02:00.0
16:30<florian>its the same number
16:30<florian>the wirelss card type is listed if that is what you're looking for ...
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16:31<babilen>florian: sorry, it's not the first column but the number within the [ ]
16:31<florian>oh ok, hang on
16:31<babilen>florian: and the card name might be handy as well :-D
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16:33<florian>02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: Device 1a3b:1026 Flags:
16:33<florian>thats not the number between [] yet but its the name
16:33<babilen>judd: pciid 1a3b:1026
16:33<judd>babilen: [1a3b:1026] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1a3b:1026
16:34<babilen>*sigh*
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16:35<florian>getting the number now ...
16:36<florian>that number is 0200
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16:37<florian>i've found a more effective way to check output for this so my replies should come a bit faster
16:38<florian>is this the right number?
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16:39<babilen>florian: Yes, we have all the information now. The problem is that this card is not that well supported under linux (yet) and I need some background information
16:39<florian>ok ...can i give you that?
16:39<babilen>florian: You said, that you already tried madwifi? Did you follow: http://billy.com.mx/2009/05/12/atheros-ar242x-wifi-on-debian-sid/ or something like that?
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16:40<babilen>florian: No, I need to find out how to install that card.
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16:43<florian>ehm ...yes i did something similar, but i stopped after the modprobe ath_pci
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16:44<babilen>florian: Ok, how did you install you netbook and which image did you use?
16:45<florian>i used the vinux 2.0 image
16:45<babilen>vinux 2.0?
16:45<florian>thats lenny with a few modifications and extra apps
16:46<babilen>!debian based
16:46<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is off-topic on #debian.
16:46<florian>vi for visually impaired. its made for blind and visually impaired users
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16:47<florian>it is lenny. just with orca enabled at boot
16:47<babilen>florian: But back to the problem ... I have no idea if this works on vinux and I would suggest you get support from there. But you will need a newer kernel. You can get that from backports
16:47<babilen>!tell florian -about bpo
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16:48<florian>i also have a usb wifi adapter by linksys, can i use that instead?
16:48<babilen>florian: Can you read the things dpkg (the bot) tells you, or is it better to have it in the channel?
16:49<florian>you mean about the policies?
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16:50<babilen>florian: No, I mean the private messages dpkg sends you (like the one about backports a minute ago)
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16:50<florian>that didnt seem to do anything ...
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16:51<florian>i didnt receive a private message when you issued that command
16:51<babilen>ok ...
16:51<babilen>!bpo
16:51<dpkg>backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>.
16:51<babilen>!ath5k
16:51<dpkg>[ath5k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11a/bg PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.24. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information and supported devices. For AR5007* devices, ask me about <ar2425>. For 802.11n device support, ask me about <ath9k>. See also <backports.org>, <wireless tree>.
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16:53<babilen>You will need a newer kernel than the one in lenny. You can get that from backports. You will then need to 'modprobe ath5k' and hope that your card works with that. If not, we will have to try with the madwifi approach.
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16:53<babilen>I don't know about ubuntu's out of the box support for that card, so installing ubuntu might also be an option.
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16:54<florian>ok. you guys have helped me immensely already. i will contact the developer of the distro i am using and ask him if upgrading the kernel has any adverse effects . if not i will install the necessary packages and try the ath5k approach. if that doesnt work i'll come back here
16:54<florian>thanks a lot
16:55<babilen>florian: Hope you can get it to work
16:55<florian>so do i ;)
16:55<babilen>and come back if you have questions
16:55<florian>i will. thanks again
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16:55<babilen>good luck
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17:09<hojda>Hi, do not you how to find out that Am I allowed to install hamachi in my country because of therms of use, presented here ? https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi2/download.aspx
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17:10<Olympia>hi this is my first time here, just installed lenny
17:11<hojda>Olympia, :)
17:11<Olympia>hi hojda
17:11<Olympia>can't get it to boot tho
17:11<Nemoder>how far does it get?
17:11<Olympia>after grub loads, i get monitor only supports 1024x768 60hz
17:11<hojda>Olympia, installed system does not boot ?
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17:12<Olympia>can i pass on a vga= something to grub
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17:12<abrotman>Olympia: for the terminal or X ?
17:12<Olympia>x
17:12<Olympia>i'll get you the exact message
17:12<hojda>Olympia, its usually good to set vga=791 :)
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17:13<Olympia>it's at cannot display video mode
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17:14<Olympia>by pressing e at the grub menu
17:14<Olympia>this is what i can't remember
17:14<Olympia>i mean this is what i have no idea what to do
17:14<Nemoder>if it's booted you may be able to log into console with ctrl-alt-f2
17:14<Olympia>ok following your advice
17:15<Olympia>yes i'm logged in
17:15<abrotman>VGA= is not for X
17:15<abrotman>erm .. vga=
17:15<Olympia>now how do i get it to a graphic environment
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17:15<Olympia>or reconfigure x
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17:16*Olympia races to the support forum
17:16<abrotman>Olympia: which video card do you have?
17:16<Olympia>nvidia 8600
17:16<Nemoder>same card i have :)
17:16<abrotman>!nvidia
17:16<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net).
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17:17<Nemoder>hm that factoid has a . as part of the link
17:18<Olympia>can i reconfigure temporarily to use a vesa driver
17:18<Olympia>i'm really excited just to see it boot
17:18<abrotman>Nemoder: depends on your IRC client
17:18<Nemoder>ah
17:18<abrotman>or terminal .. whatever
17:18<Olympia>this is my third try in 4 years i've failed every time
17:19<Nemoder>by default it's probably using the nv driver
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17:19<Nemoder>you can create your own /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it's a bit complicated
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17:21<Olympia>hit me
17:21<Nemoder>I would just follow the instructions to install the non-free driver, especially if you ever plan on running any 3d apps
17:21<Olympia>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i did this but nada
17:22<Nemoder>Olympia: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Overview
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17:24<paradroid>Does anyone know the name of the package in Debian stable that enables the ark shortcuts on right click on a file?
17:24<Olympia>thanks nemoder
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17:25<babilen>paradroid: You mean archive creation in nautilus? (stab in the dark)
17:26<Nemoder>Olympia: the newest drivers should work fine with the 8600, don't need the legacy stuff
17:26<paradroid>paradroid: No, it's in KDE.
17:27<abrotman>babilen: ark is a kde app IIRC
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17:29<babilen>paradroid: alright. Kno kidea kthen
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17:29<paradroid>babilen: Gnome fan, I take it?
17:30<babilen>paradroid: nah, I use some gtk applications, but i prefer lighter window managers
17:31<paradroid>babilen: Any tiling WMs?
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17:32<babilen>paradroid: yes
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17:32<paradroid>babilen: Would you recommend tiling over stacking?
17:33<amphi>paradroid: xmonad is very pleasant
17:33<paradroid>amphi: I've heard that a lot. Seems to be a crowd favorite.
17:34<amphi>for good reason IMHO
17:34<babilen>paradroid: why choose? but this is heading towards OT .. and I use xmonad most of the time, although I like the tagging in wmii a lot. But no time to implement that in xmonad right now.
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17:35<amphi>heh
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17:36<amphi>babilen: Actions.TagWindows doesn't do what you want?
17:36<paradroid>From what I've read, I gathered. I've been looking at StumpWM as well.
17:36<babilen>amphi: no .. I want dynamic workspaces based on tags ...
17:37<amphi>ah
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17:39<babilen>amphi: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2009-December/009254.html my wish was granted :-)
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17:41<amphi>heh, nice
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18:23<n00b>how do I turn on the delicious things at boot time?
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18:27<amphi>!confuse n00b
18:27<dpkg>Yes, who is my snake yesterday, n00b? Pants of the Monarchy of Belarus with extra crabpaste.
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18:29<n00b>?
18:29<amphi>what do you mean?
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18:30<kmap>Go switch on the oven/microwave as you switch on your computer?
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18:46<omes>kmap: micro owen cooking is not for everyone :P
18:47<kmap>True. Just giving some tips
18:48<kmap>I prefer a gas stove myself. :-)
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19:55<axc>nobody talk here !
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19:57<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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20:09<dr|z3d>!br
20:09<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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20:42<spuddweb>wow what the hell? I just got banned from freenode because I was messing around with squid....
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21:04<Xenguy>spuddweb: apparently some proxy server configs are considered harmful by freenode (and other IRC networks)
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21:05<zero-day>hi everyone
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21:09<spuddweb>Xenguy, Yes and they dish out a permanent ban even though I only temporarily had such a config.
21:09<Xenguy>spuddweb: ouch. Maybe try #freenode ?
21:11<abrotman>i doubt it's permanent
21:12<spuddweb>well it sounds permanent, at least no additional info is given
21:15<abrotman>you can email them .. see freenode.net about contacting them
21:15<abrotman>http://freenode.net/ i mean
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21:16<spuddweb>yeah I've emailed now lets see if it helps lol
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21:39<Nemoder>when will squeeze freeze?
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21:45<abrotman>!wwsr
21:45<dpkg>Squeeze is anticipated to be released in mid 2010 with a <freeze> starting in March 2010. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00002.html and ask me about <squeeze bet> <squeeze kernel>.
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21:45<abrotman>mind you .. that's *anticipated*
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21:55<dutchfish>abrotman, does that include soft-freeze?
21:56<abrotman>no idea which freeze that is
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21:57<dutchfish>got it: http://marc.info/?l=horde-dev&m=120414130726504&w=2
21:58<dutchfish>abrotman, that states soft-freeze early March
21:58<abrotman>ok
22:00<dutchfish>abrotman, my error, that was for lenny, sorry
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22:51<kop>I installed the balsa-dbg package. Should I be executing /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/balsa when I want to run balsa with the debugging symbols?
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22:58<sdsdsd>Hello guys, i need help. I was triing to compile a new kernel but everytime i end compiling i get this errors:
22:58<sdsdsd>http://pastebin.com/m6f355440
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23:14<rajeev>hi
23:14<rajeev>I have a problem removing ubuntu 9.1 from windows7
23:15<rajeev>I cant see anyone in the room?
23:15<kmap>!tell rajeev about ubuntu
23:15<rajeev>hi
23:15<rajeev>thanks for the reply kmap
23:15<kmap>rajeev: Hi! This is a Debian forum
23:15<kmap>So, you'd get better help on #ubuntu in irc.freenode.net
23:15<rajeev>which forum should I go to
23:16<rajeev>ok
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23:19<pharming>then in
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23:23<enyawix>aNY oNE using freepbx with debian? i was unable to find freepbx.deb
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23:40<ABCD>I would like to test out Debian on a different Linux system, preferably by just using a chroot (ie, no virtual machines, and no rebooting). What would be the easiest/best method of doing so?
23:41<faheem>ABCD: debootstrap?
23:41<faheem>!deboostrap
23:41<faheem>!debootstrap
23:41<dpkg>debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a UNIX/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap
23:42<ABCD>faheem: I'll try that, thanks
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23:51<diego>Hi there, can I get some help installing something ... it says gnome-power-manager is in conflict...
23:51<diego>devicekit-power: Breaks: gnome-power-manager (< 2.27.5) but 2.24.4-3 is to be installed.
23:51<diego> gnome-session: Breaks: gnome-power-manager (< 2.28) but 2.24.4-3 is to be installed.
23:51<diego>but , for instance, my gnome-session is 2.28.0-4
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23:52<diego>and gnome-power-manager is 2.28.1-2
23:52<diego>so ... why is telling 2.24.4-3 ?
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23:54<diego>oh, I think I got it ... maybe if I purge it first
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