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#debian IRC Logs for 2009-12-19

---Logopened Sat Dec 19 00:00:10 2009
00:02<Nemoder>what's a good fast gui app for checking free space on each partition?
00:03<dr|z3d>gparted.
00:03<Nemoder>only runs as root :/
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00:05<detly>hi - I need a bit of help with udftools, specifically making a udf fs on a partitioned external hard drive
00:05<ansgar>df -h | xmessage -file - ;)
00:06<Nemoder>heh
00:06<Nemoder>well it's fast, i'll give it that
00:07<phorce1>so, how would I get my nVidia video card to default to using its DVI output for at boot time when it has monitors connected to both the DVI and VGA ports? I'm running Lenny and messing with dual monitor setup now that I have both monitors on my desk at the same time.
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00:13<Jiekechoo>hi
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00:21<phorce1>Nemoder: all I can find is xdiskusage and it is definitely not fast (it uses 'du' as its backend)
00:22<Nemoder>I found gtkdiskfree which works well enough, it's a little hard on the eyes but usable
00:24<Nemoder>and baobab is much better than xdiskusage for analyzing folders
00:25<phorce1>Nemoder: the xmessage output of df is actually pretty readble. You can make a menu entry for it pretty quick. ;-)
00:25<Nemoder>yeah and it's easier to copy, though I do like the percentage bars in gtkdiskfree
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00:27<phorce1>Nemoder: look at the guts inside xdiskusage and see if it can be adapted to display the output from df
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00:29<Nemoder>boabab has a nicer format, and it already lists total usage, but I prefer to see it per partition
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00:33<phorce1>Nemoder: I never even noticed baobab --- fascinating. Total filesystem capacity: 2961.9 GB Available 855.9 GB
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00:33<Nemoder>yes, and the breakdown in piechart form is really handy if you have time to scan
00:34<phorce1>yeah, I'm not pushing that button on THIS filesystem
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00:49<ml|>try ncdu for cli
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00:52<phorce1>ml|: he's looking for "fast" and "gui"
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00:52<Silicium01>hey everyone
00:53<Silicium01>I have sucessfully installed and configured openvpn on 2 of my machines. how do I use vpn with my browser?
00:53<ml|>phorce1: yes i know why i said cli, plus someone else might find it useful
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02:27<mike_>Hi All! I'm running Lenny/KDE. I set the menu bar to auto-hide. Is there a key combination that will show the menu bar? Mouse bumping the screen bottom doesn't do anything.
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02:33<flaarg>mike_: you try alt-F1?
02:33<jimmy>has anyone experienced the issue where up/down arrows and pageup/down keys do not have affect within a man page?
02:33<mike_>try control-V and control-Y
02:34<mike_>Thanks jimmy!!! IT WORKS! IT WORKS! It Works! Now I can fix the problem I have of mouse not bringing up the menu bar. It Works! THanks!
02:35<mike_>I fix it by right clicking on the menu bar when it shows up then turning off auto hide then turning back on menu hide
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02:39<mike_>Hi All! I'm running Lenny/KDE on 768K DSL. Youtube stops and starts. How do I fix it?
02:40<mike_>Flaarg - I should have said thanks to you. Mouse bumping the bottom of the screen now works again for me. Thanks!
02:41<flaarg>mike_: youtube sucks in general. It does that for everybody afaik.
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02:41<flaarg>but it could be because your proc is too slow, flash eats up cpu.
02:42<flaarg>and only some intel and ati cards can benefit from gpu acceleration of flash
02:42<mike_>Thanks flaarg. It works for about 6 hours after a re-boot, but I like to leave lenny up for months at a time. I don't feel so lonely now that others are having that problem too.
02:43<flaarg>I find restarting my browser helps a lot and it seems to work better in chromium than firefox
02:44<mike_>can I apt-get chromium?
02:44<flaarg>not atm
02:44<mike_>atm?
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02:44<flaarg>at the moment
02:44<flaarg>im sure it will make it into debian
02:44<flaarg>or I should say I expect it to
02:44<Spec>could some1 help me here?
02:44<flaarg>um you might be able to use chrome from google, I think it will work on lenny
02:44<flaarg>the linux beta has been releases
02:44<flaarg>the linux beta has been released
02:45<mike_>I like apt-get because it is auto-update with apt-get. Other methods don't auto-update.
02:45<flaarg>once you install the deb from google it adds it to the sources.list so update/upgrade will update it
02:45<mike_>yep, and that's a good thing
02:46<Spec>could some1 help me?
02:46<flaarg>I just don't like the eula that comes with chrome, chromium is open source as far as I know
02:46<flaarg>!help
02:46<Spec>!help
02:46<Spec>!help
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02:46<flaarg>don't just ask for help state your problem if somebody can help they might
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02:47<mike_>if it is a freebie with no guilt attached, that's for me
02:47<flaarg>its free sure, but it does a bit of data tracking, although google already does my email and phones so I guess that doesn't bother me
02:47<mike_>yes, google scares me too
02:48<flaarg>I figure they get so much data its rather impersonal and i just add another decimal to some massive statistics algorithm
02:48<mike_>chuckle
02:48<Cab>lol
02:49<mike_>It still bothers me when Pizza Hut knows my name from my phone number and all those web sites know what part of the state I am located.
02:49<Spec>i've installed winxp on the master hard disk, and after that installed debian on the other.. it installed a GNU GRUB and i dont see winxp there and except that when i choose the debian (not the single-user mode) from the grub it loads some stoof and then my screen turns off and i get a message: Please change resolution to 1024x768
02:51<Spec>so?
02:52<mike_>flaarg - my processor is 2800 and I have about 60 tabs in firefox open that all work except youtube stutters terribly. Thanks for the guidance tho, I'll try that, just not right now, it is late.
02:54<Spec>could some1 help me with the above?
02:55<flaarg>Spec: can you get into debian?
02:55<flaarg>regular or safemode?
02:55<Spec>not now... because of couldnt do nothing i formated both hard disks
02:56<mike_>Spec: I don't know very much about your problem, but if you can get it to come up in single user mode, perhaps you can edit the file(whatever it is) that is asking for screen resolution change, or edit the Xorg file??
02:56<flaarg>oh you just have to run update-grub as root and it should add windows
02:56<mike_>would he have to do that in single user mode?
02:56<flaarg>nah
02:56<Spec>in single user mode it says: not permitted
02:57<mike_>ok, it is beyond me
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02:58<flaarg>I dunno about the resolution thing, xorg hasn't bothered me in so long about resolution I no longer know how to do anything with it
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02:59<Spec>what to do now
03:01<flaarg>well I suggest installing xp again first, then seeing if you can get a livecd to work
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03:01<flaarg>its normally easier to install windows before linux
03:02<Spec>i'm on xp now... just installed them after the mega format
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03:02<Spec>what u mean by live cd?
03:03<flaarg>a cd that boots into a desktop without installing onto the hard disk
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03:03<Spec>and what to do with it?
03:03<Spec>install debian, and afteer boot from livecd?
03:04<mike_>I still use the Knoppix live CD
03:04<mike_>It boots from CD directly into linux/KDE
03:04<flaarg>see if your computer will work with linux and if it will look at the settings it has and emulate them
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03:04<flaarg>knoppix no longer really matters for that it hasn't been updated in forever
03:05<flaarg>http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
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03:06<Spec>what to choose?
03:06<flaarg>one that matches what you want to do
03:07<Spec>i dont know much of it, so it has gnome desktop, kde, lxde
03:07<Spec>which one?
03:08<flaarg>do you want to use gnome? thats the normal de for most users
03:08<Spec>whats the diff?
03:09<flaarg>they are just different desktop environments
03:09<Spec>thnx for the info btw...
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03:10<flaarg>if you were just planning on installing the normal debian desktop I believe its still gnome
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03:11<mike_>Maybe his monitor is being reported incorrectly to the auto-configure. I read somewhere that you still can configure xorg
03:12<mike_>I can look it up if someone wants
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03:31<mike_>Does anyone know how I can get clive to work? It grabs videos from Youtube
03:32<peej>clive youtubeurl does it for me
03:32<mike_>the problem is Youtube changed their format and now clive doesn't work
03:32*peej checks...
03:32<mike_>thanks peej
03:32<flaarg>you can now buy some youtube videos I think so they changed stuff around
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03:33<mike_>somewhere I saw a script to fix clive, but I lost the URL
03:34<peej>still works for me. What are you using as your url?
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03:35<mike_>for example: clive www.youtube.com/watch?v=V03JXjs2KTM
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03:35<smg_ce_ml>ae
03:36<mike_>it downloads 122.3KB then says error
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03:37<peej>still works for me on lenny. What error?
03:37<mike_>two errors: error: extraction url (&video_id) not found
03:37<mike_>and: error: nothing to extract.
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03:38<peej>oh, hang on, I'm using 2.2.5-1~bpo50+1
03:38<mike_>did your clived downloaded file run ok?
03:38<peej>pick up clive from backports
03:38<mike_>using what???
03:38<mike_>ok peej, I'll try that
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03:39<mike_>that's for tomorrow, gnite all and Thanks for the help!
03:43<peej>what's the recommended way to pull out an ip address for eg, yahoo.com. You can ping it and use host (from dnsutils). I'm thinking of using host yahoo.com | head -1 | cut -f4 -d" "
03:48<flaarg>I believe host is the ideal way
03:49<olasd>i'd use "getent hosts yahoo.fr"
03:50<olasd>it uses the system resolver (as defined in resolv.conf), the associated cache, and is portable to every and all linux distros, without additional tools installed
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03:54<olasd>(btw, it works with hosts defined in /etc/hosts, and reverse-dns too)
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04:53<squidkillingme>hello everyone, can somebody help me about squid. Squid was running and i tried to put 2 configuration file, it didnt work then i removed the 1 of configation file. Now i want to start squid again, when i try to reconfigure with squid -k reconfigure , it says squid: ERROR: No running copy , any suggestions ?
04:54<squidkillingme>how can i do fresh start for squid, i think some file missing, can be pid file
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04:55<peej>/etc/init.d/squid restart
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04:56<squidkillingme>Restarting Squid HTTP proxy: squid. , then when i check status says squid is not running failed!
04:57<peej>ok, but is it running now (that failed message is about stopping squid, probably)
04:57<squidkillingme>no its not running
04:57<gsimmons>squidkillingme: Check /var/log/squid/cache.log then.
04:58<squidkillingme>ups can be urlParse: Illegal character in hostname 'squiddeny[mutlu]'
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04:58<squidkillingme>let me make corrections and try again
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04:59<squidkillingme>squid is running. thanks how i made this mistake :/
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04:59<peej>well, there's always something to learn.
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05:04<squidkillingme>and can you help me about 1 more thing, i have 2 configuration file under /etc/squid/squid.conf PORT 8181 and /etc/squid/squid2.conf PORT 8080
05:04<squidkillingme>squid.conf running without problem
05:04<squidkillingme>how can i start squid2.conf ?
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05:04<squidkillingme>like multiple instance
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05:07<squidkillingme>ok i made it with squid -f squid2.conf
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06:28<gues>hi, is it possible to change the default cursor (black x) of X Window ?
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06:33<locklace>gues: yes
06:34<gues>how ? :)
06:35<locklace>!fgi gues change-x11-default-cursor
06:35<dpkg>gues: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=change-x11-default-cursor
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06:37<gues>i did googled
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06:44<gues>i've changed cursor but it doesn't change default balck x cursor, when X server is clean (without windows etc.)
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06:45<valdyn>gues: whats the point of having X without windows ?
06:48<gues>ok my sitiuation is : i don't use any desktop (kde,gnome) , i have tiling manager and tilda, when i run civ for example i have the x balck default cursor. After changing cursor it's changed but only in tilda.
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06:53<gues>any idea ?
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07:27<gues>nvm i've solved it
07:27<gues>my tiling manager can do it
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07:54<SM>hi everybody
07:55<Gathond>Hi doctor nick
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08:05<mororo>ahoj je tady nejakej čech ?
08:06<@Ganneff>!cz
08:06<dpkg>methinks cz is Czech Republic. Kanal pro cechy je #debian-cz
08:06<mororo>thx
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08:07<mororo>room is empty :(
08:07<azeem>start a new community!
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08:08<mororo>I need help with MySQL database
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08:10<mororo>I downloaded and installed after the restart the computer database load but does not know the php commands mysql_connect() thanks
08:11<dutchfish>did you install php5-mysql
08:12<dutchfish>or php4-mysql
08:12<mororo>php5
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08:13<dutchfish>and (i gues you reffering to apache) installed one of its php modules?
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08:13<abrotman>mororo: you need to also install php5-mysql
08:13<mororo>I'm not sure to check on whether it is php5
08:14<dutchfish>you can find out by dpkg -l | grep php
08:14<mororo>It was a pre-configured installation
08:14<abrotman>which version of Debian is this ?
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08:16<mororo>php version php5
08:16<mororo>Debian 2.22.3
08:16<abrotman>mororo: this is to use with apache ?
08:17<mororo>yes
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08:17<abrotman>so 'aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql' .. if oyu type that, does it install anything ?
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08:19<mororo>As the installation is completed restart apache without rebooting pc?
08:20<abrotman>/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
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08:22<mororo>Thank you I have a lot of fantastic grateful. Works.
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08:22<abrotman>have a nice day
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08:26<mororo>thx
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08:27<pc_magas> Hi all folks
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08:31<hans>hello, can you please tell me how to make iceweasel and jre work together ?
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08:32<mercutio22>Everytime I reboot my pc, gnome startup is glitchy and I have to log out and log back in to properly see the icons and window borders I selected in the "appearances" application. .xsession-errors shows a bunch of polkit and gnome-session-daemon related error messages... Any clues to what is going wrong? http://debian.pastebin.com/m49ffe2d7
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08:33<Spec>hi
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08:36<hans>is it at all possible ? is someone using jre with iceweasel ?
08:36<abrotman>!install java
08:36<dpkg>For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java6-jre. See also <java alternatives>. Etch users: ask me about <install java etch>.
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08:38<Spec>could some1 help me install debian? i had install yesterday debian on a slave HD while having winxp on master.. First i couldnt see my xp on gnu grub and 2nd i couldnt get in on debian because after loading some files or i dont know, the screen turned off and showed up a message: please change resolution to 1024x768.. so i formated both hard disks and now i have only winxp on master HD...
08:38<hans>thank you!
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08:41<mercutio22>Spec: why panic? Now you have to install again and come up with the same resolution issue so we can try and help you with that
08:42<Spec>so what should i do now..
08:42<Spec>install debian?
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08:44<mercutio22>Spec: sure, go ahead
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08:45<Spec>mercutio22: are you sure that i will dont have to format again?
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08:46<hans>iceweasel + jre : icedtea-gcjwebplugin worked ! thanks a lot !
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08:53<Spec>mercutio22: are you sure that i will dont have to format again?
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08:55<Spec>some1 please help..(read above)
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08:59<zumbi>Spec: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/
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09:15<Spec>zumbi: didnt helped me..
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09:17<Spec>could some1 help me install debian? i had install yesterday debian on a slave HD while having winxp on master.. First i couldnt see my xp on gnu grub and 2nd i couldnt get in on debian because after loading some files or i dont know, the screen turned off and showed up a message: please change resolution to 1024x768.. so i formated both hard disks and now i have only winxp on master HD...
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09:25<abrotman>Spec: what is your video card?
09:26<Spec>nvidia geforce 6600
09:26<Spec>256mb
09:26<Spec>agp
09:29<Spec>abrotman: nvidia geforce 6600gt 256mb agp
09:29<abrotman>grub should be able to boot XP without an issue
09:31<Spec>how to add xp on grub.. grub dont see xp on my system
09:31<Lethalman_>abrotman, except when xp is on a logic partition
09:32<abrotman>it should just see it
09:32<abrotman>ah .. i've never had it on a logical partition
09:32<Spec>what is logical partition
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09:32<Spec>well the main problem is why i cant log in into debian
09:32<abrotman>though i'll guess since he has separate HDDs, he's not using logical parititons
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09:39<Spec>what should i do now??
09:39<abrotman>!ig
09:39<dpkg>The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.3) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r8) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>.
09:40<Spec>abrotman: ive read many manuals
09:41<Spec>nothing says about my problem with screen
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09:42<spofif>does anyone know how to disable DMA with Lenny... Netinstall
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09:42<spofif>/proc/ide is missing... but in docs..
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09:44<shhh>hey guys anyone here have ifuse, itunnel etc running on debian lenny?
09:44<shhh>i am trying to install but get "http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fuse/libfuse2_2.7.4-2_i386.deb
09:44<shhh> 404 Not Found" when using synaptic
09:45<spofif>nope... I can't even install Debian on a Geode FW500-M
09:45<spofif>no dma support on CF card...
09:46<spofif>can't be disabled, or I don't know how...
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09:46<spofif>Have you tried another repository?
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09:47<Spec>could some1 help me install debian? i had install yesterday debian on a slave HD while having winxp on master.. First i couldnt see my xp on gnu grub and 2nd i couldnt get in on debian because after loading some files or i dont know, the screen turned off and showed up a message: please change resolution to 1024x768.. so i formated both hard disks and now i have only winxp on master HD...
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10:10<bighornram>How do you encrypt a file from commandline (workaround for seahorse bug failure) to send so someone who is able to decrypt with seahorse? The resulting file has a pgp extension.
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10:31<fnmueller>hi, I am trying to find a trustworthy source for icedove/iceweasel 3.x. Is there such a thing for lenny stable?
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10:46<Spec>i have install a live cd on my USB and it doesnt run on restart... configured the motherboard to boot it firs
10:46<Spec>what should i do now
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10:50<aee>Hi all
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10:51<aee>I have a problem in debian
10:51<aee>with its virtual box
10:52<aee>once I reinstalled it and since then everytime I want to run a OS in it, I encounter the following warning
10:52<aee>Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root.
10:52<aee>VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
10:52<aee>Result Code:
10:52<aee>0x80004005
10:52<aee>Component:
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10:54<fnmueller>hi, I am trying to find a trustworthy source for icedove/iceweasel 3.x. Is there such a thing for lenny stable?
10:54<hope>so guys what do you say about the problem of aee?
10:55<hope>it is aee
10:55<hope>please help
10:55<gsimmons>hope: So modprobe the vboxdrv module as stated. Set LOAD_VBOXDRV_MODULE to 1 in /etc/default/virtualbox-ose if you want this to occur at system startup.
10:56<hope>how can I set it to 1 ?!
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10:57<gsimmons>hope: With a text editor ; /msg dpkg editor
11:00<hope>I logged in as super user
11:00<hope>yet, I don't have the premission to change it!?
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11:13<gernot>What could be the reason that sshd starts on boot despite being disabled using sysv-rc-conf and update-rc.d? It seems to have more willpower than me.
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11:15<nick>gernot: what runlevel do u boot into?
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11:15<hope>accidently I delet and saved the the content of the virtualbox-ose in /etc/default/virtualbox-ose
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11:17<gernot>nick, I actually don't know the number. It starts X and XDM during a normal boot. It's my laptop. Does that help?
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11:18<nick>gernot: type #grep id /etc/inttab and u will see a line such as id:2:initdefault:
11:19<gernot>nick, indeed that's the line I get.
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11:20<nick>gernot: ok now cd into /etc/rc2.d and type #ls S* |grep ssh
11:20<gernot>nick, nothing there.
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11:21<nick>gernot: if u run #netstat -antp|grep ':22' what do u see?
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11:23<gernot>I hope pasting will be okay: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2225 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1792/sshd
11:24<nick>gernot: thats wierd... have u modified sshd to run on local port 2225?
11:24<gernot>nick, oh yes, of course
11:25<nick>gernot: well since there isnt any sym link to /etc/rc2.d/ sshd should not startup on a reboot
11:25<gernot>But otherwise I didn't change much of the config, I don't think. Could a config error cause this though?
11:25<gernot>nick, that's what I figured. :) Weird
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11:26<gernot>Thanks so much for your time.
11:26<nick>gernot: have u tried rebooting?
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11:26<nick>gernot: it could also start if uve specified it in some startup script such us /etc/rc.local
11:26<gernot>nick, yes. I reboot this laptop all the time.
11:27<gernot>I'm sure I didn't touch that, but I'll have a look.
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11:27<gernot>Nope, not that either.
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11:28<nick>gernot: did u run #update-rc.d -f ssh remove
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11:28<sam_>hey
11:28<HardDisk>Is santa here?
11:28<sam_>my sound isn't working
11:28<nick>sam: install alsa-base and run #alsaconf to auto configure it
11:29<HardDisk>well if you see santa can you tell him i want an F40PH for christmas please?
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11:29<gernot>nick, I have to admit that I'm not actually familiar with update-rc.d. I usually stick to sysv-rc-conf and only ran some update-rc.d command after that didn
11:29<gernot>didn
11:29<gernot>oops, sorry. ... didn't seem to work
11:29<cahoot>nick: how do you test sound?
11:30<gernot>so should I try your command above?
11:30<cahoot>sam: how do you test sound?
11:31<nick>cahoot: to test sound run #speaker-test
11:31<cahoot>was meant for sam
11:31<nick>gernot: yea run it
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11:33<nick>gernot: did it work
11:33<gernot>nick, no. I just rebooted.
11:34<sam_>ok thanks nick
11:34<sam_>I just forgot about alsaconf
11:35<nick>np
11:35<shhh>i am still looking for people who has successfully tethered internet over iphone in debian lenny
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11:36<nick>gernot: run #ps -ef|grep ssh and view ssh PPID to see what starts it
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11:38<nick>gernot: PPID is the third field on the output you get
11:38<gernot>nick, PPID 1. Does that tell you something?
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11:38<xgon>Hi!
11:38<gernot>By the way, I do start ssh-agent. ps just reminded me of that. Could that be related? I feel like ssh-agent shouldn't start the server, but who knows.
11:39<xgon>I'm totally screwed trying to install debian in a machine with a Promise Sata SX8300 with raid 0. Debian doesn't see any disks at all.
11:39<xgon>After google it for 3 days i'm here ;)
11:40<nick>gernot: out of curiosity when u ran update-rc.d -f ssh remove did u see the sym links getting deleted on the screen?
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11:41<xgon>wtf, I though this ircII was like BitchX
11:41<sam_>sound isn't working
11:41<sam_>even with alsaconf
11:41<gernot>nick, when I ran it just now: no. When I ran it a few days ago I don't remember. I just ran it because I doubted sysv-rc-conf. Now I assume that it actually did its job though. In conclusion: it's been a little while and I don't remember, sorry.
11:42<xgon>Anyone experienced installing debian servers? :)
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11:43<gernot>nick, maybe I should investigate the ssh-agent/sshd relationship more. ssh-agent is also started by PPID 1.
11:43<gernot>nick, again, thank you for your help.
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11:43<fnmueller>hi, I am trying to find a trustworthy source for icedove/iceweasel 3.x. Is there such a thing for lenny stable?
11:43<sam_>well
11:44<sam_>I think iceweasel isn't called iceweasel anymore
11:44<sam_>look for icecat
11:44<nick>sam_: run #lspci|grep audio dou see a soundcard?
11:44<fnmueller>ok
11:45<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ #lspci|grep
11:45<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$
11:45<nick>gernot: np
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11:45<sam_>nothing
11:45<nick>gernot: sorry i couldnt help u out
11:45<fnmueller>sam_: well, I don't find any package called icecat
11:46<sam_>backports should have it
11:46<nick>sam_: run lspci and scim through the output do u see any sound or audio cards?
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11:46<nick>sam_: if not then the kernel didnt detect our audio card
11:47<sam_>alsa should work because it worked once
11:47<xgon>Guys: please give a hand, I see the 'Promise SX8300' card in 'lspci', and in lsmod I see sx8 (after do a modprobe sx8) but debian can't see any disks at all (I have hds 2 in raid0 and 1 single)
11:47<sam_>but I needed to reinstall debian
11:47<sam_>00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 07)
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11:48<sam_>bash: scim: command not found
11:48<fnmueller>sam_: ok, this is my sources.lst: http://pastebin.com/m30cc4824 --> backports is included. But I still can't find a package colled icecat
11:49<fnmueller>sam_: what am I doing wrong?
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11:49<sam_>http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
11:49<sam_>did you follow those instructions?
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11:50<sam_>backports should give you the latest version of iceweasel/icecat
11:50<gsimmons>sam_: You are confusing GNU IceWeasel (now GNU IceCat) with Debian's Iceweasel. GNU IceCat is not yet packaged in Debian.
11:50<fnmueller>hmm, well, not really, no :-)
11:50<sam_>oh
11:51<fnmueller>I imported the backports source correctly, and I opted to only use backports if absolutelly necesarry
11:51<fnmueller>well, so a current version of thunderbird/icedove and/or iceweasel/firefox should be on backports, correct?
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11:52<themill>depends what you mean by "current".
11:52<fnmueller>themill: a 3.x version
11:52<themill>3.0 of iceweasel is already in lenny, backports not required
11:53<themill>judd versions icedove
11:53<judd>themill: icedove -- etch: 1.5.0.13+1.5.0.15b.dfsg1+prepatch080614i-0etch1 etch-security: 1.5.0.13+1.5.0.15b.dfsg1+prepatch080614i-0etch1 lenny: 2.0.0.19-1 lenny-security: 2.0.0.22-0lenny1 squeeze: 2.0.0.22-0lenny1 sid: 2.0.0.22-1.1
11:53<sam_>hey themill
11:53<themill>icedove 3 isn't in debian at all yet, so it definitely won't be on bpo
11:53<fnmueller>hmm, strange, let me check my update cron job
11:53<fnmueller>themill: ok
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11:54<sam_>there is a problem with
11:54<sam_>!remove gnome
11:54<dpkg>To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
11:54<xgon>!install sx8300
11:54<xgon>xD
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11:55<chealer>judd doesn't say about it being in experimental though
11:55<judd>chealer: Error: "doesn't" is not a valid command.
11:55<xgon>again, debian netinst and Promise SX8300
11:55<xgon>is anyone reading what I write?
11:55<xgon>:S
11:55<fnmueller>I could compile a current version myself, but I would not like to do that as I want to stay current by using the package management system
11:55<themill>judd versions icedove-3.0
11:55<judd>themill: icedove-3.0 -- experimental: 3.0~rc2-2
11:55<themill>chealer: because it's a different package name....
11:56<fnmueller>so, I am not finding a trustworthy source as there is none?
11:56<chealer>themill: must be, yeah
11:56<sam_>themill
11:56<sam_>you should warn people about !remove gnome
11:56<abrotman>warn ?
11:57<sam_>yes
11:58<sam_>it removes network-manager
11:58<sam_>which made me reinstall debian
11:58<gsimmons>c: No private messages, please. Ask dpkg about confmiss (/msg dpkg confmiss) to restore your /etc/default/virtualbox-ose file.
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12:01<sam_>anyway
12:01<sam_>my sound isn't working
12:01<fdsfds>hi
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12:01<xgonza>guys
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12:02<xgonza>do you know if the normal debian installer (the full cd or dvd) have more drivers than the net inst?
12:02<sam_>what drivers are you missing
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12:06<HennR>Hi there, does anyone know how to handle bug-buddy?
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12:06<HennR>I am using openbox and some xfce tools (like the panel)
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12:07<HennR>and I want to create a bugreport with bug buddym but it does not show up when a crash appears
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12:12<xgonza>Guys
12:12<xgonza>Promise SX8300 on debian, helllppppppppp!!!!
12:12<xgonza>I can't just simply dont work, bunch os servers have this fk card
12:12<xgonza>it *
12:13<c>gosh I have many problems in debian! :(
12:13<MJD>xgonza: can you pastebin a copy of dmesg after you start the computer.?
12:13<sam_>my sound isn't working
12:13<sam_>nooooo
12:13<sam_>help
12:13<sam_>plz
12:13<xgonza>MJD: how can I enable ssh on the machine?
12:14<xgonza>MJD: I mean, its running debian netinst (lenny 5.0.3)
12:15<MJD>xgonza: If you get the installer to the partitioning step then jump back to the menu (hit go back), there should be an option to load extra installer parts. One of them gives an ssh server.
12:16<MJD>xgonza: You may have to start the system using the expert installer to get the options though. I haven't used the non-expert option for a while now.
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12:17<xgonza>MJD: ok, ssh enabled. will pastebin
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12:17<xgonza>also the lspci, lsmod.. etc
12:17<pask>hi, goodevening to everyone
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12:18<pask>I have just installed debian, but I am encountering some problem.. I keep getting an error message, in my terminal, which says: kernel:[ 1387.964902] do_IRQ: 0.100 No irq handler for vector
12:18<pask> --- now, this problem doesn't let me work with the terminal as i want, and some times the screen freezes, does anyone know how could I fix this ?
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12:19<pask>i would very much appreciate some help, im new to linux and this is an awkward situation for me
12:21<MJD>sam_: What does the file /proc/asound/cards contain?
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12:21<Gathond>pask: dmesg -n 1 can supress it
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12:22<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ ls /proc/asound/
12:22<sam_>ls: cannot access /proc/asound/: No such file or directory
12:22<pask>i see Gathond, but will that fix the problem ? suppressing the msg is not the only problem, the screen also freezes at times
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12:23<MJD>sam_: what happened when u ran alsaconf?
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12:23<xgonza>MJD: http://pastebin.com/f430b2289
12:23<sam_>I'm going to run it again
12:23<xgonza>MJD: I only uses the expert mode.
12:24<xgonza>MJD: The server also hace a ServeRaid Scsi controller, with a scsi hard drive attached, but I'm planning to remove it.
12:24<sam_>hey should I put my pattern between 2 doublequotes when using grep?
12:24<gsimmons>xgonza: AIUI, your disk controller has no driver available in the mainline kernel.
12:25<gsimmons>judd: pciid 105a:6300
12:25<judd>gsimmons: [105a:6300] is 'PDC81731 [FastTrak SX8300]' from 'Promise Technology, Inc.' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=105a:6300
12:25<abrotman>yay!
12:25<sam_>!grep
12:25<dpkg>grep is probably at http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/grep.html (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep.) or called that because of ed's g/RE/p command, which does the same thing or "Marvel at the beautiful plumage of the wild grep as it glides lazily through the thick morning ASCII.". Global Regular Expression Print
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12:26<xgonza>judd: and the sx8 driver?
12:26<judd>xgonza: Error: "and" is not a valid command.
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12:26<xgonza>oh cool
12:27<sam_>"following card(s) are found on your system"
12:27<sam_>and it lists 2 cards
12:27<sam_>which one do I choose
12:27<MJD>sam_: In what context?
12:28<sam_> │ ens1371 Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 07) │
12:28<sam_> │ legacy Probe legacy ISA (non-PnP) chips │
12:28<sam_>what do you mean
12:28<cahoot>sam_: run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 (as root), then speaker-test
12:28<MJD>sam_: select the first. thats ur sound card.
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12:29<sam_>it asks me if I want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/sound
12:29<sam_>and /etc/modprobe.conf if present
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12:29<Gathond>pask: the screen thing may not be related
12:30<Gathond>pask: but no, it is unlikely to change that bit
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12:30<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
12:30<sam_>Resetting ALSA card 0...failed (none loaded).
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12:31<cahoot>sam_: alsa -force-reload && /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 (as root), then speaker-test
12:31<cahoot>meh alsa force-reload
12:31<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ sudo alsa force-reload && /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
12:31<sam_>Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
12:31<sam_>Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
12:31<sam_>Resetting ALSA card 0...failed (none loaded).
12:31<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$
12:31-!-sam_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
12:31<xgonza>MJD/gsimmons Guys I can't believe there is no driver to see a normal sata driver with this controller
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12:32<sam_>oh no
12:32<sam_>what is the paster bot
12:32<MJD>sam_: Let alsaconf modify/create those files.
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12:33<sam_>Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
12:33<sam_>Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
12:33<sam_>Resetting ALSA card 0...failed (none loaded).
12:33<sam_>doesn't work
12:33<sam_>(output for sudo alsa force-reload && /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0)
12:33<peej>I've got an ogv file from recordmydesktop. No sound was recorded, and I've given up on sound for now. What should I use to subtititle it?
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12:34<peej>sorry about the repetitition
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12:34<gsimmons>xgonza: Nothing in mainline, anyway. Promise has a "partial source" driver available for that device, AFAIK.
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12:35<xgonza>ok..
12:36<xgonza>I found a source for linux, but how can I load these sources into the debian installation?
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12:36<cahoot>sam_: try modprobe snd-ens1371
12:36<mercutio22>is it dangerous to install this on debian? http://www.playdeb.net/updates/#how_to_install
12:36<xgonza>I have no problem to start a 32bit VM just for build that, if I actually know how to load a built driver in the installer.
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12:36<sam_>ok
12:36<sam_>it didn't print anything
12:37<sam_>is it a good thing?
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12:37<cahoot>sam_: now try alsa force-reload && /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 (as root), then speaker-test
12:38<sam_>should I hear something
12:38<cahoot>yes
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12:38<sam_>what should I hear
12:38<sam_>it sounds like
12:38<cahoot>'white noise'
12:38<sam_>broken tv
12:39<cahoot>speaker-test -t wav -c2 for more joy (possibly)
12:39<sam_>front left front right
12:39<sam_>;')
12:40<xgonza>well guys
12:40<sam_>thanks man
12:40<xgonza>thanks
12:40<xgonza>I'll stay here to see if I can give a hand for someone else.
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12:46<xgonza>gsimmons: If I get this driver working ina already installed debian machine
12:46<xgonza>How can I build a debian installer with the kernel I just built?
12:48<pask>i would very much appreciate some help, im new to linux and this is an awkward situation for me
12:48<gsimmons>xgonza: /msg dpkg custom netinst
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12:49<xgonza>oh really that easy?
12:49<xgonza>can't believe I always download the fucking image, I always had a custom kernel :p
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12:50<xgonza>awesome ;)
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12:52<peej>uh... "debian gstreamer plugindebian gstreamer plugins missing the playback of his movie requires the following decoders which are not installed application/x-ogg-skeleton decoders missing the playback of his movie requires the following decoders which are not installed application/x-ogg-skeleton decoder". I've tried installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-base and gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-dbg, no luck.
12:52<abrotman>did you get the -bad ones ?
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12:53<peej>an apt-file search gstreamer | grep ogg suggests nothing else
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13:15<xgonza>gsimmons: building 2.6.32 kernel with the partial source
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13:15<xgonza>do you imagine how much it gonna take ?
13:15<xgonza>heh!
13:15<xgonza>in a Xeon P4 cpu
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14:15<Txt_file>how can I change the dpi of the xserver permanantly? I tried with "Option "DPI" "n x n"" in xorg.conf and "xrandr --dpi x" but both won't work correctly.
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14:26<sam_>how do I unzip using debian
14:27<abrotman>unzip
14:27<sam_>ok I need to install it first
14:28<sam_>I thought there was something already installed
14:28<sam_>to unzip files
14:29<azeem>sam_: of course it depends on what tasks you had installed
14:31<melmothX>Txt_file: alias startx='startx -- -dpi 96'
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14:32<sam_>hey
14:32<sam_>sound isn't working in zsnes
14:33<Txt_file>melmothX: haven't tried this one
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14:38<Txt_file>melmothX: It worked. Thank you.
14:38<melmothX>np
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14:43<HardwareFreak>Hi all. Say, I need to run top in batch mode but with both CPU0 and CPU1 showing in the summary area. I've read the man page twice and can't figure out how to fire interactive command "1" either in either the config files or from the command line. Any ideas? Also, I'd really like to be able to do this in the config files, as I want both cpus always in the summary area without having to...
14:43<HardwareFreak>...hit "1" every time I enter top.
14:43<cahoot>maybe look at htop?
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14:44<HardwareFreak>does htop have a batch mode?
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15:32<pkrzywicki>hi
15:32<pkrzywicki>everyone
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15:41<valdyn>HardwareFreak: run top, hit 1 to change the view , hit W to write the config
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15:50<CrazyC>Hey, whats up this is my first time ever being on here
15:51<locklace>do you have a debian question
15:51<CrazyC>So can I ask a simple question?
15:51<@Ganneff>if its related to debian. no if not
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15:52<CrazyC>Is Frostwire part of it? Im new to this, and have Frostwire on my Ubuntu
15:52<locklace>!tell CrazyC about ubuntu
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15:54<CrazyC>huh?
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15:56<CrazyC>My frostwire has been freezing, and its effecting my mozilla also
15:57<locklace>CrazyC: ubuntu isn't supported here, go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
15:57<CrazyC>how do i get there....sorry
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15:57<locklace>CrazyC: type "/server irc.freenode.net" and then "/join #ubuntu"
15:57<CrazyC>from here
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15:58<dr|z3d>yup. same place..
15:58<dr|z3d>and without the quotes.
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15:59<CrazyC>ok found it, thanks
15:59<metalqga>or download and install debian ;)
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16:07<HardwareFreak>valdyn: thanks for the W top trick!
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16:36<Getty>can someone tell me how i can find out which package exactly needs another package?
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16:38<Nemoder>Getty: you can see dependencies with apt-cache show <packagename>
16:38<Getty>wait, i mean other around?
16:38<Getty>showing who needs that package?
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16:39<Nemoder>well what I do is use dselect, tag a package for removal and see what it tries to pull with it, then undo the tag
16:40<Nemoder>I think aptitude can do the same thing, it might be easier to use
16:40<craigevil>Getty: apt-rdepends package
16:40<Nemoder>or that :)
16:40<Getty>thanks
16:40<Getty>its very funny
16:40<Getty>that kde needs mysql-server-5.1
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16:42<Lethalman__>Getty, where do you see that?
16:42<Getty>testing
16:42<Lethalman__>try installing kde without recommends
16:42<Lethalman__>ah you're not installing
16:42<Lethalman__>Getty, I mean with that command do you see kde is depending on mysql server?
16:43<Lethalman__>*what
16:43<Getty>if i try to remove mysql-server-5.1 korganizer and kaddressbook and kde-standard wants to get removed with them
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16:43<Lethalman__>Getty, then kde-standard is depending korganizer and kaddressbook
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16:44<Lethalman__>you can remove kde-standard and install packages by hand except korganizer and kaddressbook and purge mysql server
16:44<Getty>that doesnt explain it really to me why who needs mysql-server-5.1 now
16:44<craigevil>Getty: its akonadi-server that pulls mysql in
16:44<Getty>ah ok
16:45<Getty>and why someone needs a mysql-server?
16:45<Lethalman__>Getty, for applications like korganizer and kaddressbook I think
16:45<Getty>but that shouldnt be a requirement?
16:45<Getty>more a recommending?
16:46<Lethalman__>Getty, file a bug against kde-standard to recommend korganizer and kaddressbook instead of depends then
16:46<Lethalman__>sounds reasonable to me
16:46<Getty>i would more likely think about filling a bug to the mysql-server-5.1 required package, cause that is more what is logical i think
16:47<Lethalman__>Getty, no it's not
16:47<Lethalman__>Getty, if that package requires mysql server what should they do?
16:47<Getty>probably we see 2 problems here
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16:47<Getty>there is logical no reason why it requires mysql server
16:47<Lethalman__>Getty, why you say that?
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16:47<Getty>cause i can always have a mysqlserver in my network, not on my logical machine
16:47<Getty>thats like requiring bind cause you need dns
16:48<Getty>if we would only talk about mysql-common/libs, no problem, that is clear
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16:48<Getty>but complete mysql-server (and then dont even touch it by adding tables or stuff)
16:48<Getty>doesnt make sense to me
16:49<Lethalman__>Getty, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=513382
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16:50<Getty>yeah, so someone sees it like me
16:50<Getty>good that this is on the run
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16:50<Lethalman__>LOL "Then, respectfully, upstream do need to have their heads examined."
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16:51<Lethalman__>looks like the maintainer doesn't get it
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16:53<Lethalman__>Getty, as I said you could have more success by filing against kde-standard to recommend software that use akonadi-server instead of depending on it :P
16:53<Getty>then you are as wrong, it would be removing kaddressbook from kde standard
16:53<Getty>i mean... ?!?!?!
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16:54<Getty>do you want a system for experts who knows the package voodoo to get what their want, or is the target still to have someday a userfriendly system?
16:54<Getty>especially the comment that akonida works fine without mysql-server makes it all horrible more wrong
16:55<Lethalman__>Getty, recommends: still installs it by default for userfriendly system but you can uninstall it as you want, which make it even more friendly
16:55<Lethalman__>this is another issue of course
16:55<Getty>then you are one of the dudes that say, fill a bugreport against mysql-server to not startup instantly?
16:55<Getty>cause still we got the 2 mysqld problem
16:55<Getty>where one i never wanted
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16:55<Lethalman__>Getty, I think people can say "I never wanted a korganizer"
16:56<Lethalman__>at least I'd say it
16:56<Lethalman__>and I'd remove kde-standard and install the necessary
16:57<Getty>if you say so.. i think that is still totally wrong
16:57<Lethalman__>ok
16:57<Lethalman__>but you don't explain why it's wrong
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16:57<Getty>i think i have said several times
16:57<Getty>want a list?
16:57<Lethalman__>yes
16:57<Getty>1. the package doesnt need mysql-server to run at all
16:57<Lethalman__>again
16:57<Lethalman__>please remove mysql from the concept
16:58<Lethalman__>i'm talking about another issue in packaging
16:58<Getty>that is the core of all evil here?
16:58<Lethalman__>no
16:58<Lethalman__>I'm talking about another thing
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16:59<sam_>hey
16:59<sam_>why I can't do backspace while using screen
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17:07<strixv>Okay so, how can I find out where my gnome system has mounted an sftp://www.someplace.com/myfiles directory? I'm using gvim and it doesn't have the gnome-integrated file dialog for opening and saving.
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17:11<Guest132>hello
17:12<Guest132>i can't read ntfs
17:12<Guest132>who can help me?
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17:13<eightyeight>apt-get install ntfs-3g
17:15<Guest132>i do this but the pb don't disapear
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17:15<chealer>Guest132: just ask your question
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17:16<Guest132>i install ntfs-3g but i can't see my storage extern
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17:17<eightyeight>Guest132: does fdisk list the partition?
17:18<fossiiil>i bet my throat
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17:22<Guest132>i don't know
17:23<Guest132>i have "fdisk /dev/hda (for the first IDE disk) fdisk /dev/sdc (for the third SCSI disk) fdisk /dev/eda (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive) fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0 or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0 (for RAID devices)"
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17:23<eightyeight>Guest132: and which one contains the ntfs partition?
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17:29<Guest132>tk you ;)
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17:30<eightyeight>okay...
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17:59<nono>salut
17:59<nono>je cherche un testeur de site
17:59<nono>svp
17:59<s_i_m>!fr
17:59<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
17:59<nono>ok
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18:05<damiank>hi
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18:07<s_i_m>yo
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18:33<danger>o_0
18:36<nono>O_o
18:37<xgonza>0_0
18:37<nono>o_o
18:37<xgonza>I'm still compilling the latest kernel 2.6.32.2 with the drivers for Promise SX8300
18:37<xgonza>after have modified almost all .c of the drivers
18:38<xgonza>(4 hours compilling the kernel)
18:38<danger>xgonza what spec are you using 4 hours for a kernel recompile seems high
18:39<xgonza>model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz
18:39<xgonza>stepping : 9
18:39<xgonza>cpu MHz : 3056.836
18:39<xgonza>cache size : 512 KB
18:39-!-xgonza was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
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18:39<xgonza>;)
18:39<xgonza>I started over a few times and also slept 1 hour.
18:41<xgonza>but, had to modify the driver entries for the SCSI_cmd
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18:42<xgonza>it looks that the driver was made when the kernel had a different scsi object
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18:47<hellues>hey
18:47<hellues>windows sucks
18:47<xgonza>hehehe
18:48<mslzr>preaching to the choir, hellues
18:48<hellues>to work flently, i have to pass ubuntu
18:48<xgonza>cut the crap, do not mention this word here unless you're going to say something usefull
18:48<hellues>sorry
18:48<hellues>xgonza,
18:48<xgonza>xDDDD
18:48<xgonza>kidding
18:48<hellues>ehaheh
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18:49<hellues>but in ubuntu i got some graphical error :D
18:49<hellues>graphics mess sometime
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18:51<hellues>okey
18:51<hellues>my question is http://paste.org/pastebin/view/13309
18:51<hellues>i dont know how to fix that error
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18:52<hellues>it seems there is no error in Ref9
18:53<hellues>but what is that
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18:54<hellues>pls help
18:54<hellues>ha
18:55<hellues>there is no case mismatch by the way
18:55<hellues>i wrote Ref9 in my tex file
18:55<abrotman>hellues: this channel is for Deiban support
18:55<hellues>so may be i must fix progressreport.aux
18:56<abrotman>Debian
18:56<hellues>ha sorry
18:56<hellues>:D
18:56<hellues>i am so sorry,
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18:58<xgonza>@!
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18:58<xgonza>wtf
18:59<xgonza>I told you guys, the guy started mentioning windows..
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19:58<icebrain>!deiban
19:58<dpkg>somebody said deiban was the japanese version of debian, tastes good with sake
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20:02<susan>I'm putting a new drive in my machine, I want to split the drive in half with my os on the first half. I'm at partition disks in setup, how do I split the drive?
20:04<Duber>hi susan
20:04<susan>hi
20:04<Duber>does the drive have any partition already ?
20:04<susan>no
20:04<Duber>lists as free space ?
20:05<susan>yes
20:05<Duber>well, just create a partition ocupying half the space and then another one with the rest
20:05<Duber>isn't that what you want ?
20:06<susan>what do i pick as "use as" and bootable off or on? I want to use lvm with ext4 separate partitions on the first half and one big ext4 for the remainder
20:08<Duber>trying to remember how were the installer options D:
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20:09<susan>i think what i'm trying to do though is use the larger "second partition" to be at the end of the drive, as not to slow down disk access for normal useage.
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20:11<Duber>I'm not sure if the position will matter tbh
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20:17<Silicium01>i have server client connection over openvpn, but how can I browse or via vpn?
20:18<Silicium01>how do I actually protect myself over unsecured network?
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20:20<susan>I am splitting the drive in two, first is set to use as lvm primary and second as logical and will be ext4. is the a good way to do this?
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20:21<Duber>I guess so susan
20:21<susan>should be logical for second partition?
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20:23<Duber>both works
20:23<grondilu>Hi, anyone knows a good tuto to create a LAN under debian ?
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20:23<grondilu>Hi, anyone knows a good tuto to create a LAN under debian ? (wireless)
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20:23<Duber>tipicaly yeah you can set it as logical for just data partitions but if you set primary will work aswell
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20:57<never_not_not_not>anyone here code in c?
20:57<never_not_not_not>#c is kinda dead
20:58<dondelelcaro>never_not_not_not: if someone wanted to support C coding, they'd be in #c.
20:58<never_not_not_not>yeah. seems like a lost cause...
20:59<never_not_not_not>btw, is there a way to attach something like an audible BEEP! to a wireless network being found and joined?
20:59<never_not_not_not>like attaching a script to an event
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21:01<abrotman>never_not_not_not: it's ##c on irc.freenode.net
21:02<never_not_not_not>ok. thanks abrotman, dondelelcaro
21:02<never_not_not_not>any ideas on the network question? wireless btw
21:02<never_not_not_not>oh, already said that.
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21:06<icebrain>never_not_not_not: you can do it both in network-manager and wicd
21:06<never_not_not_not>network-manager?
21:06<never_not_not_not>...have not heard of either
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21:08<icebrain>never_not_not_not: how do you configure your connection?
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21:10<never_not_not_not>icebrain: manually
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21:11<abrotman>you type it in every time ?
21:11<never_not_not_not>no... it configures automatically. i'm not sure how it's done though
21:12<never_not_not_not>it automatically joins a network and sends a dhcp request
21:12<never_not_not_not>and gets an ip and all that
21:13<nono>http://wiki.debian.org/Network
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21:17<icebrain>never_not_not_not: you edit the "interfaces" file manually, right?
21:17<never_not_not_not>never touched it
21:18<icebrain>never_not_not_not: so where have you configure the ssids and stuff?
21:19<icebrain>never_not_not_not: where have you set the network names and passkeys?
21:19<never_not_not_not>i haven't configured anything. i'm just trying to go to a cafe and have my laptop automagically connect to the network and BEEP! once it does
21:19<never_not_not_not>at least, that' s my idea
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21:20<icebrain>never_not_not_not: but now, it does connect, it just doesn't beep, right?
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21:20<abrotman>post-up
21:21<grondilu>nono: ok I'll see that, thks
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21:21<never_not_not_not>icebrain: right
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21:22<never_not_not_not>icebrain: wait. it does not connect
21:22<never_not_not_not>i have to run dhcpcd or netcardconfig manually
21:22<never_not_not_not>...i think
21:22<never_not_not_not>yeah
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21:24<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ ps -e | grep firefox
21:24<sam_> 4124 ? 00:00:00 firefox-bin <defunct>
21:24<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ kill 4124
21:24<sam_>sam@sam-desktop:~$ ps -e | grep firefox
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21:24<sam_>can someone explain this to me
21:25<icebrain>abrotman: I don't think post-up would work: my wireless interface is always "up", even now that I'm not connected to any AP
21:25<abrotman>he said .. he wants it to beep when it connects
21:26<abrotman>he doesn't do it manually, he doesn't use wicd or n-m ... so sounds like the interfaces file
21:26<sam_>I can't kill skype's process and iceweasel's process
21:26<sam_>why
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21:28<icebrain>never_not_not_not: I think you should install some kind of network manager, like wicd, n-m or wpa_supplicant, or you will have to manually run stuff every time, IINM
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21:29<icebrain>abrotman: I don't think the interfaces file can connect to Wifi networks by itself. You can't even configure the ssid, afaik
21:30<abrotman>uhm ... mine does it just fine
21:30<never_not_not_not>icebrain: which do you recommend?
21:30<icebrain>abrotman: really? where do you configure the ssid? "man interfaces" doesn't say anything about it, iinm
21:30<icebrain>never_not_not_not: well, I like Wicd
21:31<abrotman>icebrain: man iwconfig
21:31<never_not_not_not>i am familiar with iwconfig
21:31<abrotman>for example "wireless-ssid foo-ap" and "wireless-key <biglongnastykey>"
21:32<never_not_not_not>i was thinking of just writing a script that uses iwconfig to check wireless signals and then connect to one that is strong enough
21:32<never_not_not_not>but i dont know scripting well enough for that
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21:33<never_not_not_not>actually i think i just need to know how to store the values read from iwconfig into variables and then write and then write conditional checks to join a network if the signal is above a certain minimum value
21:34<never_not_not_not>but i dont know how i would go about storing the correct output from iwconfig into a 'checkable' variable
21:34<never_not_not_not>or if the whole idea is just dumb...
21:34<never_not_not_not> /shrug
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21:36<Silicium01>does anyone use openvpn to gateway here?
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21:48<KingKong2009>Any tools to create a video dvd from wmv?
21:49<nono>ffmpeg
21:49<Getty>#
21:49<KingKong2009>thanks, can I ffmpeg use with k3b?
21:49<nono>i think
21:49<nono>;-)
21:49<nono>i'm fu...ing french
21:50<nono>sorry
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21:50<KingKong2009>need to watch in regular dvd player
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21:51<nono>totem
21:52<KingKong2009>I mean I want to watch it not using a computer, no debian
21:53<nono>vlc
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21:57<icebrain>KingKong2009: if you want something graphical, try Bombono DVD (http://www.bombono.org/cgi-bin/wiki/)
21:57<abrotman>apt-cache search dvd author ?
21:58<icebrain>it's in debian too: bombono-dvd
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21:59<KingKong2009>thanks alot guys, how about WinFF, anyone tried??
22:00<icebrain>KingKong2009: no sorry. But Bombono recomends it in the tutorial for preparing the sources
22:01<KingKong2009>icebrain, yr sure its in the repo, cannot find bombonoo in main, contrib, non-free?
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22:02<icebrain>KingKong2009: sorry, I was convinced it was... wtf
22:03<icebrain>KingKong2009: oh, it's in Debian-multimedia
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22:04<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>hi
22:04<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I'm looking for someone who could help me with apache
22:05<nono>ok
22:05<nono>come on
22:05<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I don't know what is going on :|
22:06<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>can u try to help me nono?
22:06<nono>yes
22:06<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>so I've created virtual host on the same port
22:06<nono>80?
22:06<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>with ServerName and entries in /etc/hosts
22:06<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>yes
22:07<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>works fine
22:07<nono>httpd.conf
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22:07<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>default host links to error message :]
22:07<nono>only
22:07<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>?
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22:07<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I have 4 virtual hosts
22:08<nono>oki
22:08<nono>and?
22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>works fine
22:08<nono>so
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22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>IP links to error message = OK
22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>domains links to correct virtual hosts = OK
22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>but
22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I can't setup SSL connections :|
22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>well what happen
22:08<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>IP links to default host
22:09<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I've created :433 virtual host under dev.test.com
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22:09<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>but any another domain links to the dev.test.com
22:10<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I didn't make SSL for another hosts
22:10<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>just this one
22:10<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>and all I want is setup SSL only for dev.test.com
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22:12<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>for example: if I type porn.com super-porn.com extra-porn.com then browser open the always same vhost -> dev.test.com
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22:12<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>why it is that?
22:13<nono>youporn?
22:13<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>:|
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22:14<abrotman>each https hostname needs its own IP
22:14<abrotman>or runs on a different port
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22:19<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I tried
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22:20<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I changed SSL to 8080 for special SSL domain
22:20<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>but if I type another domain with 8080 I get my special domain content too
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22:44<nono>rtfm
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23:00<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>I did it
23:00<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>works :]
23:01<never_not_not_not>so i got network manager installed. i'm reading the script in /etc/init.d
23:01<never_not_not_not>did you say i can configure this to automatically join a valid network and then what i was going for was some sort of audible alert like a beep or something
23:03<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>?
23:03<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>wrong window?
23:03<icebrain>never_not_not_not: yes, http://linux.die.net/man/1/networkmanagerdispatcher
23:04<icebrain>it runs all the shell scripts in that dir; you can just see if $2 is "up", and if it is, beep
23:07<never_not_not_not>icebrain: is this an auxiliary package?
23:07<icebrain>never_not_not_not: no, it's part of n-m, iinm
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23:07<icebrain>never_not_not_not: do you have the dir?
23:08<icebrain>/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d
23:08<never_not_not_not>yeah. i have the dir and '01ifupdown' inside of it
23:09<icebrain>never_not_not_not: you can make a new shell script in that folder
23:09<never_not_not_not>ok
23:09<never_not_not_not>a script that beeps
23:10<never_not_not_not>does network-manager automatically join networks?
23:10<icebrain>never_not_not_not: yes. and $2 will have "up" or "down", depending on the event
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23:10<icebrain>never_not_not_not: if you configure it that way, I think so. But as I said, I use wicd
23:11<never_not_not_not>yeah. i've been trying to get that installed but it's not working
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23:11<never_not_not_not>ok. better read the docs
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23:16<dakka>hello, am i allowed to ask questions in here, or ask for help?
23:16<never_not_not_not>yeah. go for it
23:16<never_not_not_not>just keep it on topic
23:17<dakka>i am kinda new to linux, however i recently decided to use firefox instead of iceweavel, reason being animated png wouldnt work in iceweavel, but they work in FF
23:17<dakka>i ended up using FF 64bit, with the 32bit plugin manager, but i am not able to get the 64 bit FF working with my printers
23:18<dakka>no printers show up at all, so i am thinking of using the 32 bit FF instead
23:18<never_not_not_not>this sounds like a firefox question
23:18<dakka>ahh and that is off topic right?
23:18<never_not_not_not>yes. you can still get help, just not here
23:18<never_not_not_not>join #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
23:18<dakka>was just wondering if going 32bit was a bad idea or not for FF
23:19<dakka>hmm, ok never mind, i will just do it and see how it goes <shrug>
23:19<ggsalas>Hi. Qt4 ugly font rendering in Debian Lenny (gnome). Help?. Thank you.
23:19<dakka>figured others would have experience in this here
23:19<never_not_not_not>can y ou run 32bit on a 64 arch?'
23:20<never_not_not_not>bob would probably have a better idea
23:20<never_not_not_not>i dont use ff
23:20<dakka>yea thats ok, i will test it for myself. Just been compiling FF for around 20mins now and was hoping this would work at the end of it all....lol
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23:28<dakka>FYI 32bit firefox works perfectly! Well worth waiting 20mins for a compile :D
23:28<dakka>bye
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23:42<PhorceP>I used to think GRUB 2 was really awesome, but I'm not so sure anymore: http://imgur.com/o4CLy
23:44<PhorceP>That's squeeze, after an update and a reboot today
23:44<PhorceP>still sitting at that prompt, if anyone has any suggestions...
23:48<bKB1Bf53KaScxekjhV>i found a bug in apache
23:48<simonrvn>PhorceP: it's called a bug. thank you for reminding me to file a report ;).
23:48<PhorceP>I so should have stayed with lenny
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23:48<simonrvn>PhorceP: use an earlier version of grub2, i reinstalled 1.97~beta1-1
23:50<simonrvn>PhorceP: might want to check out #544731 at bugs.debian.org
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