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00:44<dominique>!hi
00:44<dpkg>hello, dominique
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01:09<Coburn|MacBook>Heyo Everyone
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01:14<twb>edbian: it depends on which fuse module you're using
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01:14<twb>edbian: e.g. for rofs, obviously not
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02:08<max1234>can anyone help me get docker or pypanel running, I have them installed but now I am lost?
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02:13<jm_>do they work if you start them from a terminal?
02:13<max1234>no, I typed docker in the terminal and it does nothing
02:13<jm_>how about pypanel?
02:14<max1234>and when I type pypanel it says command not found
02:15<jm_>pypanel is no longer available in current versions of Debian
02:15<max1234>I am in openbox, just trying to find a lightweight panel
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02:15<twb>max1234: fspanel
02:15<jm_>ahh there are others too
02:17<max1234>well I installed docker and tint2 from synaptic but can't get either to work
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02:20<snogglethorpe>there's the lxde panel, dunno if that counts as "lightweight"
02:20<snogglethorpe>(it's a bit ugly tho)
02:20<max1234>ha yeah that's what I am using right now
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02:26<ml|>when I used openbox, tint2 worked great
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02:31<max1234>yeah I got tint2 and fbpanel working
02:31<max1234>It doesn't slow down my machine to have multiple panels installed does it?
02:32<ml|>no they should not
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02:34<twb>max1234: depends on your machine
02:35<twb>Rather, depends on your machine as to whether it'll be a NOTICABLE slowdown
02:36<max1234>intel celeron m processor 1.30ghz
02:37<jm_>having them just installed shouldn't matter
02:38<max1234>my memfree on this panel says 6332 kb
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03:05<mavromatis>hi, can someone help me with my sound card problem?
03:06<mavromatis>modprobe gives me an error
03:06<max1234>I downloaded and extracted transset-df, and it says I have to compile it from source, how do I do this?
03:06<max1234>tar xzvf transset-df-6.tar.gz
03:06<max1234> cd transset-df-6
03:06<max1234> make
03:06<max1234> sudo checkinstall
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03:08<mavromatis>http://paste.debian.net/56631/
03:09<jm_>mavromatis: are those files there?
03:10<mavromatis>no
03:10<jm_>well why not?
03:10<mavromatis>the problem is why they aren't there and how can I get them back
03:11<jm_>reinstall kernel package
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03:13<mavromatis>thanks :P
03:13<jm_>linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 by the looks of it
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03:14<mavromatis>that did the trick, now I need the jack switching function
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03:14<mavromatis>I'll ask alsa
03:14<jm_>what's jack switching?
03:15<jm_>ahh audio jack I guess
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03:15<mavromatis>I plug the front in center
03:15<mavromatis>so need to switch
03:15<mavromatis>yes
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03:22<cfrabel>Hi all
03:23<cfrabel>I am unable to stop (using ^C) a script containing a sleep instruction. How to do?
03:24<edhunter>cfrabel: you could ps aux | grep "script name" find the PID and use kill -9 PID to kill it
03:25<jm_>what's in the script?
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03:26<cfrabel>edhunter, yes, but i have to open another connexion to my system because the process is in the foreground
03:27<edhunter>cfrabel: well yes. what is the problem with that?
03:27<cfrabel>the system is an embedded one
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03:28<edhunter>ah. then im out..
03:29<cfrabel>I have only a serial connexion
03:29<jm_>what does stty -a say for intr?
03:29<jm_>and how do you connect?
03:29<cfrabel>i connect with ssh
03:30<cfrabel>and only a such process is unkillable (a process containing a sleep)
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03:30<cfrabel>otherones are ok to be killed
03:31<edhunter>i guess you should have used screen (if it is an option)
03:32<Myon>^Z maybe?
03:32<ravenbird>Myon: I don't know.
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03:50<shiznatix>Hello. I am trying to use MSN on my Lenny install but have some protocol problems. I used to use Pidgin but then MSN upgraded something and the version of Pidgin on Lenny was no good anymore so I switched to Emesene but now I am getting another protocol error. Is there any way I can get MSN to work on Debian?
03:51<twb>shiznatix: do you have volatile.d.o enabled?
03:51<jm_>or backports?
03:51<shiznatix>twb, I don't know what that means so I am going to guess, no I don't
03:51<twb>jm_: I mentioned vdo because I recalled something about purple being in there
03:51<twb>!tell shiznatix about volatile
03:51<shiznatix>jm_, I have backports enabled yes
03:51<dr|z3d>shiznatix: aptitude install amsn
03:52<jm_>this is what dpkg says: MSN support broken in Lenny (BTS #559982), use a backport.
03:52<jm_>(for pidgin)
03:52<twb>jm_: ah. How did you find it so fast?
03:52<twb>jm_: just bts show src:purple?
03:52<jm_>twb: just /msg dpkg pidgin ;)
03:52<ml|>dpkg: pidgin bpo
03:52<dpkg>The package for <Pidgin> on backports.org (as of 2.6.2-1~bpo50+2) has voice and video disabled, as the libraries for these functions are not available in lenny. See http://lists.backports.org/lurker-bpo/message/20090926.094614.082f0cc4.en.html
03:52<ml|>if that matters
03:52<dr|z3d>judd: versions amsn
03:53<judd>dr|z3d: amsn -- etch: 0.95+dfsg2-0.3 lenny: 0.97.2~debian-1 sid: 0.98.1-1 squeeze: 0.98.1-1
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03:53<shiznatix>jm_, If I have the backports enabled how do I explicitaly install something from it? I just used it to install something a while ago, maybe flash plugin but I don't recall
03:53<jm_>shiznatix: it's explained on their web page
03:53<shiznatix>Roger
03:53<jm_>http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
03:53<jm_>just add -t lenny-backports
03:54<dr|z3d>shiznatix: If you haven't looked at amsn, perhaps you should.. it's probably the closest to a linux port of msn as you're likely to see..
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03:54<twb>Now that I look at vdo, I can see it doesn't contain any protocol fix (except ICQ) for pidgin
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03:55<shiznatix>dr|z3d, roger that. I would like to use Pidgin though since I use AIM, gChat, and MSN at the same time. AIM for my American friends, MSN for the Europeans, and gChat for the kids who hate AIM and MSN
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03:56<dr|z3d>shiznatix: Looked at empathy. Another possible, if you need multi-protocol.
03:56*dr|z3d retrofits a "?"
03:56<ml|>shiznatix: just tell them all to use irc ;)
03:56<shiznatix>ml|, in a perfect world :)
03:57<twb>Or netnews
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03:57<shiznatix>jm_, for the backports, do I do the preferences thing described on this page at the bottom: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
03:57<jm_>shiznatix: up to you really
03:58<shiznatix>jm_, I am not really sure what I am doing though, would that work if I did the preferences thing?
03:58<jm_>shiznatix: just use -t then
03:59<cfrabel>edhunter, my question is: why its impossible to "normally" kill such a process
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03:59<twb>cfrabel: because you don't have job control
03:59<shiznatix>jm_, such as: apt-get upgrade -t pidgin?
04:00<twb>shiznatix: -t takes a target release, such as "lenny"
04:00<jm_>shiznatix: no, did you read the instructions page? it has exact command
04:00<jm_>apt* -t lenny-backports install pidgin
04:00<edhunter>cfrabel: no clue. dont remember not being able to ^C a process that sleeps..
04:01<twb>edhunter: because he's on a serial line, he probably lacks job control
04:01<shiznatix>jm_, arg sorry, skipped over that section thinking it was the setup backports part
04:01<twb>edhunter: it may also simply be that the app is intercepting and discarding the ^C instead of letting it propagate to the (job control-enabled) shell.
04:02<jm_>I told him all that but he failed to provide more info
04:02<shiznatix>ok I will get this working with backports
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04:02<shiznatix>thanks for the help
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04:03<edhunter>twb: yes thought of the second possibility (ignoring ^C) but from his description i understood that its a simple script by him. unfortunately i know nothing when it comes to serial lines and embedded devices so thx for the info
04:04<cfrabel>edhunter, ok, i understand
04:05<kaziem>I exported / with nfs
04:05<kaziem>and mounted it with the client
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04:05<kaziem>on the remote side
04:05<kaziem>hmm, nm
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04:08<twb>kaziem: that's bad juju, man
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04:09<cfrabel>I get the same result on my linux box
04:09<kaziem>juju?
04:09<dr|z3d>juju - vibe.. not cool, in other words.
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04:16<fire_princes>enyone here?
04:17<fire_princes>gues not
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04:20<slush>!ask
04:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:21<slush>hmm, I should check before doing that, sorry (having joins and parts ignored .. :p)
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04:32<jmm>hi.
04:33<twb>slush: rcirc is clever; it suppressed only the "boring" joins/parts (i.e. the ones from people who haven't spoken recently).
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04:37<blop>hello, i am looking for some help with my operating system involving a laptop that i am trying to get a pcmcia network adapter running
04:37<jm_>wireless?
04:38<blop>yes
04:38<jm_>!wifi
04:38<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>, <wimax>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
04:38<jm_>check the wiki page
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04:40<blop>nice thank you looks like this is excatly what i needed
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05:20<hachi>hey all, I'm trying to launch Xorg as non-root... it works fine as root, but I get the following error if I try to start it up as non-root:
05:20<hachi>xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
05:21<hachi>I am part of the 'video' group, is there anything else I need to do for device permissions?
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05:22<perk>hachi, how are you invoking it?
05:22<hachi>xinit `which matchbox-session` -- :1 -config usbseat.conf -logfile /var/log/touch/Xorg.1.log
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05:24<hachi>X is suid/sgid root, so I don't see how I can be getting a permissions error
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05:38<Gremnon>found a little problem. Tried to install frostwire into squeeze. Added the debianchile APT repository, and now to install it, it wants 'libxul0d' package, which doesn't exist except as an old version in etch. DId something happen to it?
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05:39<rex>where can i find the security risks of using webmin
05:40<noflash>!webmin
05:40<dpkg>well, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality.
05:41<rex>right, cute, but really, security flaws, what am i in for
05:42<koollman>rex: simply enough, someone might access to webmin, and get root access to everything
05:43<rex>so they would still have to brute force or know my root pass?
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05:43<koollman>or depending of the webmin version, use a known exploit to go through the login page
05:43<twb>rex: unless there's a bug in webmin
05:44<twb>What am I saying? Webmin is FULL of bugs. I mean unless there's a specific exploit.
05:44<rex>i gust what i am mainly thinkin, just running webmin, are there known ways to get enough access to my system to install and run other things without my knowledge?
05:45<rex>or is it only a potential of my sites getting 'hacked'
05:46<jm_>Gremnon: that's for old xulrunner stuff
05:47<Gremnon>jm_, maybe so, but frostwire for squeeze/testing insists on having it installed
05:47<koollman>rex: there are ways to access all of your system, with no exceptions
05:47<Gremnon>unless there's a workwaround to force it to use whatever replaced it
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05:48<koollman>if you really want to use webmin, you could, as a first security point, add more limits to the access by using a different auth system and restrict to some known valid IP addresses
05:49<rex>regardless of the version ? basically i should just figure out apache and bind9 etc ? i host from home / lenny
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05:50<jm_>Gremnon: there is no such package in debian
05:50<Gremnon>jm_, do you mean frostwire? No, that's from the debianchile APT repository
05:51<jm_>Gremnon: so you need to talk to people who prodive the package
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05:51<jm_>provide*
05:51<Gremnon>jm_, I have. They've said nothing at all, and my post has pretty much been ignored.
05:51<jm_>Gremnon: try libxul0d from d-m
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05:52<Gremnon>d-m?
05:52<Gremnon>I don't recall that
05:52<jm_>!d-m
05:52<dpkg>dmm is probably Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm etch> <dmm squeeze>.
05:53<Gremnon>ah
05:53<rex>koollman: i host from host, all ips need access to web, dns, mail
05:53<rex>home*
05:54<koollman>rex: access to webmin interface, I mean
05:56<rex>koollman, thank you
05:57<rex>i notice a lot of random port connections in firestarter that i think are related to smtp
05:57<rex>why don't they all go thru port 25
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05:57<hachi>anyone know how to get multiple non-root X servers working under debian?
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05:58<twb>hachi: define "non-root"
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05:58<dr|z3d>they will, remotely connect to that port (25), assuming the server is remote. the local port will be dynamically allocated.
05:58<hachi>non-root user launched
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05:58<twb>hachi: are you using a dm, xinit, or something else?
05:58<hachi>xinit
05:58<hachi>the problem seems to be
05:58<twb>hachi: users on ttys can run xinit by default
05:58<hachi>yup
05:58<twb>e.g. "xinit :2"
05:59<hachi>but I need to specify a different config file
05:59<twb>hachi: why?
05:59<hachi>-config causes X to drop its privs
05:59<dr|z3d>rex: see my comment above.
05:59<hachi>because I'm generating the config file
05:59<twb>hachi: that doesn't make any sense
05:59<hachi>I have an unenumerated set of frame buffer and input devices
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06:00<hachi>I'm enumerating them and associating them into sets
06:00<hachi>and I want to launch X servers on them
06:00<hachi>I can't do like the xinput layer and use dbus to insert video devices (like the input devices can do)
06:01<hachi>so I have to build a config file that has the right framebuffer device listed
06:01<twb>hachi: so you have a single machine and you want to have two sets of KVM controlling two separate X displays?
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06:01<hachi>touchscreen displays
06:01<twb>hachi: normally you would have one KVM and use Ctrl+Alt+F7, Ctrl+Alt+F8, etc. to switch X display
06:01<hachi>and this works fine as root
06:01<hachi>multiple touchscreen displays
06:01<marcosilva>hello! I have a problem with Apache and dlink router. I can access the webserver from outside but after some time I can't anymore. I am trying to figure out but I can't. Any clue?
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06:01<twb>hachi: ok. I don't know how to do that.
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06:02<hachi>and this works fine as root, I'm just trying to get debian to let me to launch the X server as non-root
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06:02<twb>hachi: does each display run as a different user?
06:02<rex>so when i have connections from my ip to some ip on port 65xxx, and i know its mail related, that means what? mail is running on 65xxx on the receiving server?
06:02<twb>hachi: try putting "X :0 -config foo & X :1 -config bar & wait" in ~/.xserverrc ?
06:02<hachi>doesn't really matter to me, I was going to do it as the same user unless some xauth constraint stops me
06:03<twb>hachi: that's just a complete guess -- I've only ever put a single X server in ~/.xserverrc
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06:03<hachi>er, okay... part of my question got missed
06:03<hachi>I already have the invocation
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06:03<hachi>the problem is if I supply the -config arg to X, it drops privs
06:03<hachi>so then it doesn't run as root, can't open logfiles
06:04<hachi>I can't supply a different logfile unless I am root
06:04<hachi>and I really don't want to chmod o+w /var/log
06:04<Gremnon>jm_ - it worked, thanks. Never knew about debain multimedia before then. Learn something new every day
06:04<hachi>that seems like something debian maintainers might want to not force me to do
06:06<jm_>it's not about logfiles
06:06<twb>hachi: I'm confused, because when I was using xinit, it would definitely handle logfiles properly
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06:07<hachi>I get two pretty clear error messages
06:08<twb>hachi: what were they?
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06:08<hachi>Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.1.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.1.log.old"
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06:09<twb>hachi: I think that's not because you can't open a logfile, it's because an old one already exists, and the OLD one is owned by someone else.
06:09<twb>If you move/remove those old ones, does it work?
06:09<hachi>but it's owned by root, and the thing is suid/sgid root
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06:10<twb>hachi: try it anyway, for me?
06:10<hachi>Cannot open log file "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"
06:10<twb>OK, how exactly are you invoking xinit?
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06:11<hachi>xinit `which matchbox-session` -- :1 -config usbseat.conf
06:12<twb>And you're doing this directly on the tty, not in a screen session or anything?
06:12<hachi>I have the X wrapper set to 'anyone' right now because I'm doing this via SSH
06:12<hachi>so it's not the console problem
06:13<twb>hachi: OK
06:13<marcosilva>hello! I have a problem with Apache and dlink router. I can access the webserver from outside but after some time I can't anymore. I am trying to figure out but I can't. Any clue?
06:13<twb>hachi: I'm afraid I'm out of ideas
06:14<twb>hachi: I guess you could strace -f it, and try to see where it setuids
06:14<hachi>sadly strace won't work
06:14<dr|z3d>marcosilva: The clue is in the question. Sounds like your router/modem's bombing. Google for reports on failures on your rooter model, and problems.
06:14<hachi>ptrace doesn't allow setuid setgid to take effect
06:14<twb>sudo strace -fo/tmp/trace sudo -u foo xinit ...
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06:14<dr|z3d>s/rooter/router
06:14<hachi>hmmm, maybe
06:15<twb>That tricked worked for me last time I tried it
06:15<twb>hachi: also, I don't know if this will help, but this is how I actually start X from /etc/rc.local:
06:15<twb>env -i su twb -c xinit >/var/log/xinit.log 2>&1 &
06:15<hachi>hmmm
06:15<twb>Hmm, I guess that's relying on setuid now I look at it
06:16<twb>So ignore that
06:16<hachi>do you have a kiosk thing?
06:16<hachi>is that what you're doing as well?
06:16<twb>Just an EeePC :-)
06:16<hachi>ahh
06:16<twb>xdm doesn't work because I use the null password
06:17<marcosilva>ok. I am trying to find something on google.
06:18<hachi>mmm
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06:19<edhunter>in the webmin factoid it says that their debs are not of good quality. could someone explain what "good quality" means for a debian package?
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06:21<koollman>edhunter: doesn't break when the system isn't exactly what is expected, has correct dependancy, uninstalls properly, and other various specific things that are used to validate a package ( I don't know about the quality of webmin's packages)
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06:22<edhunter>koollman: ok thx. i guess sticking to new maint guide and debian policy produces quality packages
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06:22<koollman>yes, that's also a part of it :)
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06:22<fire_princes>hi everybody
06:22<edhunter>hi fire_princes
06:23<fire_princes>hi
06:23<hachi>twb: thanks
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06:43<shiznatix>Hello. I have several gigs of music but its all very unorganized. I was wondering if there was a program that would take the ID3 tags and rename the files and move it to folders that would have that organization such as Music/Band Name/Album Title/Track Number - Song Name (## - NAME.ext). Does such a program exist\
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06:49<[machine]>shiznatix: ir3ren
06:50<shiznatix>[machine], where do I find that? google has nothing and its not in the repos
06:51<perk>id3ren maybe
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06:56<shiznatix>perk, thanks
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07:04<[machine]>yeh, sorry typo
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07:58<locklace>!qotd0
07:58<dpkg><wols_> vzrb a devuab betubstakk CD <wols_> *burn a dbeian netinstall CD <jelly> wols_: you're drifting to the right... republican? <wols_> jelly: my equipment drifts to the left. anarchist
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08:04<GNU-Maniac>hi guys! I created a simple bash scripts that acts like daemon. Simple while (true) command. When I run it with start-stop-daemon with --backgroup and --make-pidfile is launches the daemon as inteded. The pid file is created. When I rerun start-stop-daemon a new process is created and according to documentation it shouldn't. What is wrong?
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08:06<simonrvn>you need to trap some signals and do something with them
08:07<GNU-Maniac>what do you mean?
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08:09<jm_>did you read that make-pidfile will not work if program forks?
08:09<jm_>or does your script not go into background?
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08:11<GNU-Maniac>my script doesn't go into backgroud by itself. But --background forces that action, and script is active as intedend. The pid file is also created properly.
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08:13<GNU-Maniac>normally when you use start-stop-daemon for the second time it shouldn't create a next process is one is already running. That is my problem, because in my situation is creates a new background process each time i use start-stop-daemon.
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08:15<jeremiah>GNU-Maniac: Are you using the debian skeleton for this sort of start-up daemon?
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08:15<jm_>how does your command look like?
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08:18<jm_>I think it gets confused because process name doesn't match
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08:18<GNU-Maniac>jm_: do you mean start-stop-daemon?
08:18<jm_>GNU-Maniac: yup
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08:19<jm_>actually that doesn't seem to be true, /proc/<pid>/stat shows shell script name
08:20<jm_>but /proc/<pid>/exe is bash and that's what it's looking for too
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08:24<GNU-Maniac>start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --make-pidfile --background --pidfile (name of pidfile) --exec (path to exec) --
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08:29<jm_>somehow i suspect the exe symlink
08:30<GNU-Maniac>what symbolic link?
08:30<jm_>does it work if you change exe to /bin/bash and then do -S /path/to/script?
08:30<jm_><jm_> but /proc/<pid>/exe is bash and that's what it's looking for too
08:30<GNU-Maniac>ok - I'm gonna give it try
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08:35<GNU-Maniac>start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --make-pidfile --background --pidfile (pidfilename) --exec /bin/bash -- $DAEMON_PATH
08:35<GNU-Maniac>whis one indeed works well!
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08:35<GNU-Maniac>can you explain me why?
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08:37<jm_>well I didn't check start-stop-daemon source code, but looking at strace output it's checking /proc/<pid>/exe symlink (the <pid> comes from the pid file) and compares the --exec argument with it, if it doesn't match it means process is not running yet so it starts a new one (in your previous command it never matched)
08:37<jm_>but for the new command it matches
08:38<kaziem>is there any way to reduce the time in bootup when NFS tries to mount the exports when they're not available?
08:38<GNU-Maniac>great!
08:38<GNU-Maniac>thank you very much jm_
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08:39<jm_>GNU-Maniac: no worries
08:40<jm_>kaziem: can't ypu specify timeout values for mount?
08:41<kaziem>the solution is with "retry=n" in fstab
08:42<kaziem>where n is the number of minutes to keep trying on mount
08:43<vvas>hm, this s-s-d discussion rings a bell
08:43<jm_>sure, that's one part of it
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08:45<vvas>ah yes, i had patched that bit of its source at some point :^)
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08:48<jie>有没有办法禁示系统记录链盘输入的命令?
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08:50<vvas>!cn
08:50<dpkg>cn is probably China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
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08:53<jie>have any method of preventing system from recording the orders typed by keyboard?
08:54<jeremiah>jie: You mean keylogger?
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08:54<jm_>it doesn't do anything like that by default
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08:55<jie>yes
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08:57<woocyfear>Hello everybody
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08:59<jie>There does not prohibit the system records the user input commands
08:59<woocyfear>i bought a new motherboard, and now debian see two sound card and two lan card
08:59<jie>how to study the linux kernel?
08:59<woocyfear>how can a remove old ones?
09:00<jm_>woocyfear: how did you get to this conclusion?
09:00<woocyfear>i changed motherboard in my pc
09:01<jie>prevent keyboard logging command
09:01<jie>who can help me?
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09:01<jm_>yes, I understand that part, but why do you think debian sees two sound cards and nics?
09:02<woocyfear>or how can i set my new sound card to be default
09:02<woocyfear>because in alsa i can choose
09:02<jm_>for NIC change udev rules
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09:03<jie>change hardware driver?
09:03<jie>quit
09:03<jm_>!z25
09:03<dpkg>udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>.
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09:03<jm_>that will get eth0 back
09:03<amphi>jie: you mean the shell command history?
09:04<jm_>for alsa, what's in your /proc/asound/cards file?
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09:05<woocyfear> 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfad78000 irq 21
09:06<jm_>only that?
09:06<woocyfear>but what is the problem then?
09:06<woocyfear>yes, but i can't control volume
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09:07<jm_>what does it say?
09:07<twb>udevadm trigger! I wish I had known that one earlier
09:07<twb>I have been restarting the entire udev stack, which sometimes explodes things
09:08<vvas>aha, so this is why my PCI network card remained as eth1 even after I disabled the on-board one
09:08<vvas>you learn something every day
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09:08<twb>vvas: it's *really* annoying when you install on a USB key
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09:09<vvas>how so?
09:09<vvas>ah, i see what you mean
09:09<vvas>you plug it into different computers and it gives ascending eth? names
09:10<woocyfear>when i listen music, and some other program uses also sound card , my music is dies and i must to restart music player
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09:11<woocyfear>and the volume control doesn't worsk in the top right corner
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09:12<woocyfear>can be wrong module?
09:12<woocyfear>my old sound card was nvidia HDA, and new is nvidia HDMI
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09:13<jm_>try using alsamixer
09:13<jm_>also check ~/.asoundrc
09:14<woocyfear>not working
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09:14<woocyfear>the sliders does'nt take effect
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09:15<jm_>I bet it displays a lot of sliders
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09:16<woocyfear>nothing works
09:16<mercutio22>was anyone here able to install skype on amd64?
09:17<vvas>i used to be able to, but last couple of times i tried it gave me a weird error message at startup
09:17<edhunter>mercutio22: never tried it myself (i use a 32bit chroot for it) but it is doable. at least in sid
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09:20<mercutio22>edhunter: I take from what you said that you have a way to install the 32bit version in your 64bit debian. Would you mind explaining to me how it is done or pointing me to a tutorial?
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09:21<edhunter>mercutio22: let me find you a link. hope i dont get kicked for this ;)
09:22<edhunter>mercutio22: this will install debian sid 32bits in a chroot environment http://sidux.com/index.php?module=Wikula&tag=32bit
09:22<vvas>mercutio22: just install ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk, download skype's 32-bit .deb, and install it with dpkg -i --force-architecture
09:22<edhunter>vvas: are those libs working properly nowadays? i remember a few month back those were seriously broken in sid
09:23<vvas>edhunter: the whole apt multiarch thing was reverted, so these are back to how they were before that (huge packages containing tons of unrelated libraries)
09:23<mercutio22>vvas: I tried that before. The package installs but skype fails to run. I think it was a known bug
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09:24<vvas>i see
09:25<edhunter>vvas: ok. in any case i prefer a "clean" 64bit system
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09:26<vvas>well, i won't try to argue with your ocd sensibilities ;^)
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09:28<twb>vvas: you forgot to capitalize OCD!
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09:28*twb jitters
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09:29<vvas>haha
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09:33<glasya>What could be the cause of every linux host on my lan taking tens of seconds to load any webpage including http://www.google.com/ yet gettings pings to google's IP in the 50ms range?
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09:48<D-HUND>glasya: maybe a slow connection to the DNS
09:48<glasya>D-HUND, I can ping the dns at about 10ms.
09:49<D-HUND>ok, then this isn't the cause ;)
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09:50<glasya>lol. i am wondering if the ping time is an accurate estimation of how long it should take pages to load.
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09:51<D-HUND>well, I had this problem a few weeks ago. ISP changed something with the DNS' and I was waiting, well, maybe ten seconds till the page startted to load.
09:51<zumbi>!hi
09:51<dpkg>hello, zumbi
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09:52<zumbi>I have run a test on rootkit on my system and I have found this: http://pastebin.com/m4a9bb51 should i worry about it?
09:53<glasya>mmhm. I've suspected the dns before but what really throws me for a loop is that any windows systems on my lan don't have this problem. Pages load very quickly for them. One of the systems is even dual boot and the pages load fine in windows and take ages in linux. : (
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09:53<glasya>I've begun suspecting that my belkin router is sabotaging my linux systems
09:53<glasya>talk about loopy
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09:56<D-HUND>now that is very strange. but I am not that much into network stuff that I could be of any help, sorry :/
09:56<glasya>thanks anyway : )
09:56<D-HUND>did you have tried different GNU/Linux distros? just out of curiousity ;)
09:56<themill>glasya: A common cause of this is your router advertising an ipv6 route when one doesn't exist. Disabling ipv6 either in the browser or system wide is one work around for this.
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09:57<glasya>themill, thanks i'll look into that
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09:57<themill>!noipv6
09:57<dpkg>[noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny and Etch: echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option "ipv6.disable=1" to your bootloader.
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10:11<glasya>themill, that seems to have been the problem exactly. thanks for the help : )
10:11<themill>np
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10:29<Muzer>How do you get mkfs.vfat to at least make an empty filesystem (without the time-consuming dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever)? I did it on my SD card and the root directory seemed to have been untouched :/
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10:36<vvas>Muzer: it does make an empty filesystem
10:36<vvas>did you actually unmount it before running mkfs?
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10:36<vvas>in any case, zeroing out the first MB or something should be enough to kill all top-level filesystem structures...
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10:37<Muzer>I did unmount it
10:37<Muzer>an I even tried re-inserting it
10:37<Muzer>maybe it's corrupted in an odd way
10:37<Muzer>(and yes, I AM formatting the right device)
10:37<Muzer>but yeah, I'll try zeroing out the first few mb, thanks for the advice
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10:39<Muzer>wow
10:39<Muzer>I am so confused
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10:39<Muzer>just zeroed out the first 40MB, the filesystem is still there!
10:40<Muzer>It's the right device, I've checked and double-checked with mount, df and a lsscsi
10:40<Muzer>I'll zero the whole thing
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10:41<Muzer>...
10:41<Muzer>...
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10:44<Muzer>WTF? DOWNLOAD: http://hbcapps.com/miight/crap/dump/fileC2Awqc.txt ORIGINAL NAME: /home/muzer/Documents/wtf.txt
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10:45<kop>Muzer: I don't know about SD cards, but most CF cards have a broken interface, so that, e.g., you can't reliably reference the first few blocks and so you can't boot off of them.
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10:46<Muzer>well, keeping not only the filesystem but all the data as well is a litle odd :p
10:46<Muzer>maybe the SD card reader is broken
10:47<Zathraz>Hi. On lenny Apache seems to be ignoring my .htaccess What can be the issue please as I cannot see a thing in logs?
10:47<kop>Zathraz: Be sure to read the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/apache2... There might be something there.
10:48<Muzer>I can write to it (just wrote a quick test file, umounted, removed and inserted, mounted, still there)
10:49<Zathraz>kop. afaik nothing special in there concerning this subject
10:49<Muzer>oops, there's a little error in that file - I did the unmounting in a different terminal for no apparent reason so I wrote it in the log manually, it should be sudo umount /media/disk
10:50<kop>Zathraz: It must be enabled in your config files. (It might not be on by default.)
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10:52<kop>Muzer: After you umount use mount to be sure it's not still mounted. (?!)
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10:52<Muzer>It's not, I tried when I did other things
10:53<Muzer>I'm just gonna delete the partition table and start again :p
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10:54<Muzer>yay
10:54<Muzer>that did it
10:54<Muzer>thanks for your help though
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10:59<Zathraz>kop. ty. That was the issue. Debian requires some extra tuning with apache
11:00<fossiiil>Zathraz? What kind of tuning?
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11:01<Zathraz>enabling htaccess for instance. But if you are into a holy war, ask the guys on the apache channel. They have their opinion on the Debian way of packaging/configuring Apache. They also have a wiki entry on it
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11:02<kop>Zathraz: Yeah. It's not their way but people come to them for support so they don't like it.
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11:05<jac0>jeeez am rily stuck anyone who can help me out...tryna pair up wit ma phone...how do i get passkey-agent workin...help :-(
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11:35<rex>firestarter says i currently have an active connection to 93.148.249.219 on port 52920 - i have no idea why
11:35<cahoot>lsof -i?
11:36<fred1>and/or look at the local port its connected to, and see what pid is listening to that port?
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11:37<fred1>fwiw that is a vodafone.it IP
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11:37<nixeagle>If a maintainer rejects a bug report for a silly reason (read he did not understand the suggestion) and marks it as won't fix. Do I need to reopen it after my reply or what? The bug is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=564539 . The maintainer for some reason did not understand that my suggestion does _not_ modify default behavior, so his rejection reason is sorta silly.
11:37*nixeagle needs to idle here more \o/
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11:38<nixeagle>sorry, this is my first bug report ^-^
11:38<nixeagle>Kinda was not expecting this :S
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11:40<rex>cahoot / fred1 : when i lsof -i i can't seem to tell what port they are on, i can see the PID, but i can't see the PID in firestarter, so i am not sure how to associate which one is which
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11:41<cahoot>rex: maybe netstat -plunt is easier to dechiffre
11:41<vvas>nixeagle: well, at this point, just wait to see what he replies
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11:42<vvas>nixeagle: you don't reopen the bug because adding wontfix doesn't close it; the Debian BTS behaves a bit differently here compared to what you might be used to, e.g. bugzilla
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11:43<nixeagle>vvas: alright, kinda a let down is all. I spent time on that so it would not modify default behavior... and make life easier on emacs users that use M-x customize. Not to get that XD
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11:45<nixeagle>Also some lisp packages are not in debian, I had to use asdf-install. How or where do I start as far as figuring out how to package them. I'm thinking of :metabang-bind and a few others.
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11:46<nixeagle>I know how to package asdf systems, I do not know where to start to package debian packages from asdf systems
11:46<stroyan>rex: lsof -i -P will report port numbers instead of mapping them to service names.
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11:49<nixeagle>asdf is kinda sorta like cpan, ruby gems and so on but for common lisp. I say kinda sorta because its not _quite_ the same thing.
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11:50<jspiros>So, I have a RV730 video card, and a 1920x1080 display attached to it, and I can't seem to get the console framebuffer set to the native resolution
11:50<jspiros>it seems to max out at 1400x1050
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11:51<Titan8990>jspiros, could be the limitation of the framebuffer driver, which are you using?
11:51<jspiros>Titan8990: I believe so, but I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions, maybe already having had the same issue with newer ATI cards
11:52<kop>nixeagle: There's some helper packages/applications for packaging, but I don't know what they are. See the debian reference and the wiki for packaging info.
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11:52<jspiros>Unfortunately I think most people who want high resolution things just use X :)
11:52<kop>nixeagle: Or ask again later.
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11:52<nixeagle>kop: sounds good I'll ask later. I'm very new with debian, less then a week in really
11:53<nixeagle>btw absolutely love M-x debian-bug \o/
11:53<vvas>jspiros: which driver do you use for X, radeon or fglrx?
11:53<Titan8990>jspiros, are you using the radeonfb driver?
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11:54<Titan8990>nixeagle, really? thats in the emacs packaged for debian?
11:54<kop>nixeagle: Install debtags, then: aptitude search '~Gdevel::packaging'
11:54<nixeagle>Titan8990: yes, its so cool how the bug reporting stuff and a few other debian things are packaged right in :)
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11:55<nixeagle>I have never seen anything quite like it
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11:55<Titan8990>nixeagle, apropos is showing some debian commands but I am not seeing debian-bugs
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11:56<nixeagle>Titan8990: i A debhelper - helper programs for debian/rules
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11:57<kop>nixeagle: Maybe pbuilder? If you want to package for debian itself you need to be a developer. See the debian policy manual. (iirc)
11:57<Titan8990>nixeagle, its installed
11:57<nixeagle>kop: well I want to submit a few packages, not really positive how it works. I just noticed that a few common lisp libraries are not in apt
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11:58<nixeagle>Titan8990: how about debian-el
11:58<jspiros>Titan8990: I was using uvesafb
11:58<jspiros>Titan8990: I'm trying to use radeonfb but I'm not entirely sure how to configure it
11:58<nixeagle>debian-bug is an interactive autoloaded Lisp function in `debian-bug.el'.
11:58<Titan8990>jspiros, try using the radeonfb driver
11:58<Titan8990>jspiros, http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer
11:58<Titan8990>just disregard sections telling you how to configure you kernel for framebuffer :p
11:59<jspiros>if i have uvesafb mode_option=1920x1080-32 in my /etc/modules, when the module is loaded it at least goes to 1400x1050. if I have the same, but with radeonfb instead of uvesafb, it doesn't change at all when rebooting. that is, it's a standard VGA console.
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11:59<nixeagle>searching on ~Gdevel::packaging is a long list XD I see some lisp things, so there is hope
12:00<Titan8990>jspiros, add this to your boot options: video=radeonfb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1920x1080-24@60
12:00<Titan8990>jspiros, kernel line in menu.lst
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12:01<nixeagle>Titan8990: one of the debian emacs packages let me do this: http://paste.nixeagle.org/demo <<< that is M-x apt-utils-search :)
12:01<Titan8990>nice
12:01<Titan8990>will that just work or do i need to add something to my .emacs?
12:02<jspiros>Titan8990: okay, gotta read the docs for grub2, but I'll give that a try :)
12:02<nixeagle>Titan8990: should just work
12:02<nixeagle>I think its debian-el
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12:02<Titan8990>nixeagle, yep, have both now, thanks
12:02<nixeagle>its autoloaded in your site files, so invoking the command will load the needed things
12:02*kop hates all that syntax hilighting
12:03<nixeagle>kop: oh its just my theme :P
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12:04<nixeagle>That "paste" is really just a function I wrote that does M-x htmlize RET, and saves the file to //vps:paste/paste-name :P
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12:15<vvas>jspiros, if you're not using fglrx in X you could try using the KMS-based console that exists in recent enough kernels, instead of a framebuffer driver...
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12:16<jspiros>vvas: yeah, I'm not using X at all, just text-mode console
12:17-!-mode/#debian [+l 393] by debhelper
12:17<jspiros>vvas: what KMS-based console are you referring to?
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12:17<vvas>the one provided by the radeon DRM driver
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12:19<vvas>i would try the following instead of any other vga= or video= option: video=radeon:modeset=1
12:19<vvas>(you would need to have at least 2.6.32 for this)
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12:23<Titan8990>vvas, think you meant video=radeonfb
12:23<vvas>no
12:23<Titan8990>ah, i see
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12:27<jspiros>Titan8990: I think I have to use KMS to get the higher resolution. Wasn't able to get radeonfb working
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12:43<newsense>i have a dvd burner that will not burn faster than 0.3x and have verified it's not a cpu/ram usage issue. http://paste.debian.net/56629/ < lsmod,hdparm,/proc/interrupts info. http://paste.debian.net/56623/ < dmesg output
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12:43<newsense>it is connected via sata i am using an nforce chipset
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12:44<jspiros>Titan8990, vvas: http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-printview-t-18878-start-15.html that got me up and running :)
12:45<zeroXten>is Debian From Scratch still going?
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12:47<Titan8990>zeroXten, i have never heard of it
12:47<zeroXten>hmm, seems to be dfsbuild these days
12:48<zeroXten>i think i'll use it to build a small very custom debian installation on a USB stick
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12:54<vvas>jspiros: ah, cool. did it successfully set your monitor's native resolution then?
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13:02<jspiros>vvas: yeah, it went right to the maximum supported res, 1920x1080
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13:02<jspiros>vvas: I am now happy, everything is sharp :)
13:03<vvas>good stuff
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13:04<macho_alfa>Hi, I'm using the auto install with netboot but i don't know with add one task for tasksel in cfg of netboot
13:04<macho_alfa>?
13:04<jspiros>vvas: thanks for sending me in the right direction, I thought KMS was only usable by Xorg
13:05<vvas>you're welcome
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13:08<Gremnon>quickie - if a gtk theme (controls, specifically) is installed by package, but you don't know which package, what's the quickest way to find out, short of removing them all and going through each of them by hand?
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13:08<jspiros>Gremnon: if you know what file causes that theme to show up, you can search for it with dpkg -S
13:09<jspiros>Gremnon: i.e., dpkg -S foobar will list me packages that are currently installed and contain a file with "foobar" in the name
13:09<Gremnon>well, that begs the question of finding out which file provides the two controls themes I'm after... namely, QT and QTCurve
13:10<jspiros>kde-style-qtcurve?
13:10<jspiros>er, gtk2-engines-qtcurve
13:11<jspiros>doing "dpkg -S qtcurve" probably would've turned that up, but I just Googled
13:11<vvas>or "apt-cache search qtcurve" is a bit more direct
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13:12<jspiros>vvas: that assumes that the package name will match the filename, and I'm assuming that there will be SOME file with the name "qtcurve" in the package
13:12<jspiros>vvas: unless apt-cache search searches the contents of packages, which would be neat :)
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13:12<vvas>apt-cache search searches the package descriptions, which is usually enough
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13:13<linux123>hello
13:13<Gremnon>I think i found it
13:13<vvas>(unlike aptitude search, mind)
13:13<Gremnon>except gtk2-engines-qtcurve seems to just have the documents on it, README, TODO and the like, and little else
13:13<jspiros>vvas: aptitude search doesn't work the same way as apt-cache search? I've been considering moving to aptitude from the apt-* family
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13:14<jspiros>vvas: perhaps I needn't?
13:14<linux123>I just installed debian, and i cant access any debian.org links with browser or apt. pinging the link also fails
13:14<Gremnon>I've been using aptsh for when I do a lot of apt/itude work
13:15<Gremnon>since I prefer the terminal
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13:16<linux123>does anybody know whats causing my problem ?
13:16<jspiros>linux123: your network is down :)
13:16<Gremnon>curses, beaten to it
13:16<Gremnon>how do you normally connect to the internet?
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13:16<jspiros>linux123: or, DNS isn't working, or your network is up but you have an evil firewall in the way, or...
13:16<Gremnon>with a modem directly connected, or via a router.... or <insert method here>
13:17<diggy>or wrong routing table...
13:17<linux123>i am able to access debian.org in older version of ubuntu
13:17<linux123>but not in new debian
13:17<jspiros>diggy: I'd call that "network down" :p
13:17<Gremnon>that makes it sound like debian not correctly detecting your network and/or settings
13:17<Gremnon>which ubuntu, btw?
13:17<linux123>ubuntu 9.04
13:17<jspiros>linux123: what kind of internet connectiond o you have?
13:18<linux123>i can access debian.org in ubuntu 9.04
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13:18<jspiros>linux123: do you use DHCP to auto-configure your IP address and such? if so, you might not have a dhcp client installed
13:18<linux123>i have adsl
13:18<linux123>im not sure how fast it is
13:18<linux123>i use DHCP auto-config
13:18<Gremnon>how do you normally connect? I mean, do you connect to a router that handles internet connections, or is it direct from the adsl line to your computer?
13:19<linux123>i connect to a router
13:19<jspiros>linux123: okay, so, in /etc/network/interfaces, you can see your interface, and it's set to use dhcp, right?
13:19<linux123>i'll check
13:19<diggy>Gremnon: as I know there is no way to connect to adsl without router...
13:19<Gremnon>diggy, not so, I've seen it done before, albeit with a LOT of custom configuration
13:20<diggy>i mean without adsl modem or some router stuff
13:20<pj>a computer can be a router
13:20<jspiros>linux123: if you do dpkg -l | grep dhcp, is a dhcp client installed?
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13:21<N30>hallo??
13:21<linux123>i can see my interface in /etc/network/interfaces and it is set to use dhcp
13:21<N30>is anyone here?
13:21<pj>yes
13:21<azeem>!ask
13:21<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
13:21<N30>ooh wassup
13:22<linux123>yes i have a dhcp client installed
13:22<N30>ey is everyone working on backtrack here?
13:22<diggy>yes, but adsl working through rj-11
13:22<azeem>!backtrack
13:22<dpkg>BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
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13:23<N30>I need some help with my background..i have the linux on a virtual mashine and the screen of the linux dont fits to my monitor screen...im using bt4 pls help
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13:23<azeem>N30: please read what dpkg said
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13:24<linux123>what may be blocking my connection to debian.org ?
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13:24<jspiros>linux123: okay, if you do ifconfig <interface>, where <interface> is the interface as listed in /etc/network/interfaces, does the output say "UP" in the second line?
13:24<jspiros>linux123: if not, run ifup <interface>
13:25<diggy>linux123: paste the output of route -n
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13:25<pj>Hi all. I got an error occuring while updating linux-image-2.6.26-2-686.deb I use lenny distrib.
13:25<N30>hey can someone help me npw :D
13:25<N30>now*
13:25<pj>the error's not explicit
13:26<linux123>jspiros: it says UP
13:26<N30>hey i need help with my backtrack...im new and i cant find any tutorials in firefox...
13:26<edhunter>N30: #debian is not the channel to ask for backtrack help. you can try #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net
13:27<Titan8990>edhunter, no, they changed IRC channels monday
13:27<Titan8990>edhunter, now #backtrack-linux on freenode
13:27<edhunter>Titan8990: then dpkg needs updating :)
13:27<N30>so whats the channel for bt4 now?
13:27<jspiros>linux123: can you ping 194.109.137.218 ?
13:27<N30>yes wait
13:27<edhunter>N30: #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net
13:27<linux123>jspiros: if i run route -n it writes:
13:27<linux123>1. 192.168.123.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
13:28<N30>ping 194.109.137.218
13:28<azeem>edhunter: o really?
13:28<linux123>2. 0.0.0.0         192.168.123.254 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
13:28<azeem>dpkg said #remote-exploit
13:28<dpkg>parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, azeem
13:28<Titan8990>azeem, , no, they changed IRC channels monday
13:28<linux123>pinging 194.109.137.218 works
13:28<azeem>ok
13:28<N30>lol nobody is in the backtrack channel xD
13:28<Titan8990>i was in the channel... when they announced bt4 final, new channel, new website, new forums
13:28<azeem>can somebody update the factoid?
13:28<jspiros>linux123: okay, so your DNS isn't working
13:28<azeem>N30: on irc.freenode.net
13:28<Titan8990>they their damn wiki and public bug tracker is still broken after almost 6 months
13:29<linux123>ohh
13:29<linux123>jspiros: how can i fix my DNS ?
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13:29<N30>azeem i cant find a bt4 channel...
13:30<jspiros>linux123: what does /etc/resolv.conf say for "nameserver"
13:30<pj>hey, I got an error while trying to uptate linux-image-2.6.26-2-686.deb Can someone help me ?
13:30<Titan8990>N30, we told you *exactly* where it was
13:30<Titan8990>N30, /connect irc.freenode.net; /join #backtrack-linux
13:30<linux123>jspiros: nameserver 192.168.123.254
13:31<jspiros>linux123: okay, so, that was probably auto-configured by DHCP
13:31<Titan8990>pj, pastebin the full command and error
13:31<pj>...
13:31<Titan8990>!pastebin
13:31<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>.
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13:31<pj>I used the update manager in gnome
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13:31<jspiros>linux123: I'm assuming that 192.168.123.254 is some router that is configured with your ISP's DNS servers, and either the router isn't functioning properly, or your ISP's DNS servers are down
13:31<linux123>jspiros: yes, im pretty sure it was auto-configured
13:31<jspiros>linux123: in any case, check the router
13:31<Titan8990>pj, alright, well do it from the command line now so i can see the error
13:31<N30>Titan im in but nobody is there :D but thanks for help
13:32<pj>Ok
13:32<jspiros>linux123: the Debian system seems to be working properly, so if you can't resolve hostnames check the router
13:32<Titan8990>N30, no your not
13:32<linux123>jspiros: i tried a different router, and i still wasn't able to connect
13:32<N30>^
13:32<edhunter>N30: you for sure are not. it has over 100 ppl. it is on freenode not oftc like debian. u need to connect to irc.freenode.net
13:32<jspiros>linux123: you need to make sure that the router is configured properly
13:33<Titan8990>N30, /connect irc.freenode.net; /join #backtrack-linux
13:33<jspiros>linux123: if it's a home router, like a Linksys or Netgear thing, you need to make sure that it has DNS servers configured properly
13:33<Titan8990>N30, when you use /join, you have to do it in a freenode/tab/window or w/e it is in oyur client
13:33<Gremnon>N30, Titan8990's instructions are correct, but make sure you type the /join #backtrack-linux in the dialog for freenode, not the debian one
13:33<Gremnon>... and beaten to it again
13:33<jspiros>linux123: this is a bit beyond Debian, though, so I can't really help
13:33<Titan8990>Gremnon, its ok, your explination was better :p
13:34<Titan8990>!override dns
13:34<dpkg>To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers.
13:34<N30>and what is freenode....sry im TOTALY new here so...
13:34<linux123>jspiros: thats allright, you gave me an idea
13:34<Titan8990>linux123, override the DNS to a public DNS server such as google's or 4.2.2.1; 4.2.2.2
13:34<linux123>jspiros: thanks allot for your help :D
13:34<azeem>N30: so read up a bit
13:34<jspiros>linux123: sure :)
13:35<Titan8990>N30, freenode is a server
13:35<Titan8990>N30, thats hosts IRC chat
13:35<Gremnon>and #debian is on a different server to that
13:35<Titan8990>Gremnon, well... kind of
13:35<Titan8990>the official channel is
13:35<Gremnon>it's close enough, no?
13:35<edhunter>life would be so much easier if the ubuntu and bt ppl just changed default channels :)
13:35<Titan8990>but #debian on freenode is much more popular
13:35<linux123>Titan8990: where should i override my DNS ?
13:36<Titan8990>!override dns
13:36<dpkg>To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers.
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13:36<Gremnon>essentially though, you just have to ask your IRC application to use the Freenode server to /join #backtrack-linux, instead of the Debian one
13:36<pj>titan8990: I'm a kind of newbie, I'm not sure what command line should I use. apt-get update linux-image.2.....deb is correct ?
13:36<Gremnon>it'd help if we knew what IRC client you're using
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13:37<Titan8990>pj, `aptitude update; aptitude upgrade`
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13:37<Titan8990>Gremnon, xchat if he is using BT
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13:37<Gremnon>true, but some people do use other ones
13:37<Titan8990>is CTCP VERSION against OFTC rules?
13:37<Gremnon>it helps to make sure
13:38<Gremnon>I don't think so, why?
13:38<jspiros>Titan8990: I hope not, as I just did it. N30 = xchat
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13:38<edhunter>Titan8990: actually /connect wont work in xchat as expected
13:38<N30>I have not understanded where that line is^^
13:38<Titan8990>Gremnon, because then you can check yourself :p
13:39<Titan8990>edhunter, sure it does
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13:39<Titan8990>edhunter, he just needs to click on freenode on the side pane before /join
13:39<edhunter>Titan8990: not here.. not if i do it in the OFTC window
13:39<N30>What is freenode...pls explain it seems im too stupid for that^^
13:40<fred1>linux123, what is in your /etc/resolv.conf
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13:40<edhunter>N30: ctrl + T this will open a new server window. type there /server irc.freenode.net press enter it will connect to freenode
13:40<pj>Titan8990: unfortunatly the console output is in french, is there a simple way to get english output
13:40<Gremnon>think of it this way - #debian is like a room in one building, and #backtrack-linux is a room in a different building. You have to use the right building to get the correct room
13:40<themill>!localised errors
13:40<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. LANG=C apt-get -f install
13:40<edhunter>pj: LANG=C before the command should do it
13:40<edhunter>too late ;)
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13:40<Titan8990>edhunter, sorry, your right
13:41<Titan8990>and /server changes servers, not connect to a new one
13:41<Titan8990>N30, just use the GUI...
13:41<edhunter>Titan8990: yep. i told him to use ctrl + T for a new server window (and the rest to connect)
13:41<Titan8990>but IMO, if you can't figure out how to use IRC, you shouldn't be using a linux distro oriented toward professional penetration testers
13:41<Gremnon>to be fair, I doubt a lot of people have ever used IRC before using Linux
13:42<N30>it says it could´t connect my host^^
13:42<fred1>Titan8990, rather than relying on some random public server to provide resolver service, it might be more reliable to install and run bind locally confgured as caching resolver only
13:42<pj>Titan8990: what do u think of this ? The "upgrade" command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.
13:42<Titan8990>Gremnon, right... and BT preaches very often about how it should not be used by new linux users, they hate supporting them and they often end up banned form the community
13:42<Titan8990>pj, ignore it and pastebin the results
13:43<Titan8990>fred1, random public DNS servers are typically better than your ISP, especially if your ISP redirects failed DNS queries to advertisers
13:43<Gremnon>see, this is where support forums often help more - slower, but so long as someone reads them, just as useful
13:43<azeem>N30: you're already connected
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13:43<N30>Titan8990, I have done all you´ve said to me....now there is standing: Your host couldn´t be connected...
13:43<edhunter>Gremnon: i must disagree. i know many ppl my age that used irc for hours a few years back and all in windows ;)
13:44<azeem>N30: please get help elsewhere, this is a Debian support channel
13:44<Gremnon>edhunter, maybe I'm thinking too much like myself then, never touched IRC before I started out with an old Fedora install. Which I didn't get along with.
13:44<N30>^^bb
13:44<ravenbird>N30: I wish you would RTFM.
13:45<edhunter>Gremnon: well of course all those ppl didnt use freenode/oftc ;)
13:45<pj>Titan8990: http://paste.debian.net/56683
13:45<fred1>Titan8990, and running ones one local resolver, which does *not* forward to an upstream ISP but instead has its own root-servers cache is even more reliable
13:46<fred1>*ones own
13:46<Titan8990>pj, No space left on device
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13:46<pj>...
13:46<Titan8990>pj, your disk is full, show me the output of `df -h`
13:47<fred1>Titan8990, agreed about redirects. in fact, since certain tld registries themselves have sometimes taken to dooing that, the only way to avoid it is to run ones own bind with enforce-delegation-only on the root and tld zones
13:47<pj>http://paste.debian.net/56684/
13:47<pj>/dev/sda1 327M 308M 2,8M 100% /
13:47<pj>.. humhum
13:48<Titan8990>you installed to a 308mb partition?
13:48<Titan8990>err sorry
13:48<pj>lol it seems to small
13:48<Titan8990>327mb
13:48<diggy>hehe
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13:48<pj>it was done by the automatic partitioner
13:48<javi0>buenas y santas
13:48<javi0>una preguntonta
13:48<javi0>tengo un server ftp
13:49<javi0>y aver si se puede no
13:49<pj>should I reinstall everything ?
13:49<azeem>!es
13:49<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
13:49<javi0>la idea es modificar archivos conectado el ftp via web se podra??
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13:49<Titan8990>pj, lets see the full output of df -h in pastebin
13:49<rex>thank you cahoot, fred1, and stroyan for help earlier
13:51<fred1>300M might be ok for / as long as /usr /home /var ... where on their own seperate larger partitions
13:51<Titan8990>right, which is why i wanted to see all of it
13:51<Titan8990>fred1, and /tmp
13:52<edhunter>Titan8990: he had pasted it <pj> http://paste.debian.net/56684/
13:52<fred1>Titan8990, right
13:53*fred1 has a 500M / that is only 50% full
13:53<fred1>and, noting that, im wondering why its even that much in use
13:53<Titan8990>his /var is almost full too
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13:54<pj>mine ?
13:54<Titan8990>well, almost 70% but there isn't a lot of space there to begin with
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13:54<pj>/dev/sda6 2.8G 374M 2.3G 14% /var
13:54<pj>not 70%
13:54<fred1>ah.. /lib
13:55<Titan8990>pj, sorry, /usr and its 63%
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13:55<pj>what is in /usr ? programs ?
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13:56<Titan8990>pj, anyways, unless someone has a better idea: a) file backup using tar or rsync b) repartition c) restore filesystem d) fix /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
13:56<fred1>aha.. i have superflous modules debs installed, taking up space in /lib/modules
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13:56<Titan8990>pj, "/usr is the second major section of the filesystem. /usr is shareable, read-only data. That means that /usr should be shareable between various FHS-compliant hosts and must not be written to. Any information that is host-specific or varies with time is stored elsewhere."
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13:56<pj>thx
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13:57<fred1>!fhs
13:57<dpkg>Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
13:57<pj>how big should it be ?
13:57<fred1>wow..
13:57<Titan8990>pj, for new users, i think 15GB / and rest on /home should be fine
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13:57<fred1>that doesnt seem possible
13:58<fred1>I mean, different architecture systems?
13:58<fred1>/usr/bin/ls for example
13:58<jamesho>upgraded lenny yesterday, today the laptop will not boot. faills with "Begin: Waiting for root file system ..." any ideas?
13:58<pj>so I should not use so much different partitions ?
13:58<simonrvn>ls is in /bin
13:58<Titan8990>fred1, ls should be in /bin
13:59<fred1>well, whatever binaries are in /usr/bin
13:59<fred1>seems like they will be arch-specific
13:59<Titan8990>pj, not until you really know what your doing, no
13:59<pj>ok
13:59<fred1>i seem to recall having a link somewhere to a very good intriduction to linux partition sizes, etc
13:59<pj>u talked about 'restoring the file system
13:59<pj>'
14:00<pj>what did u mean ?
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14:00<fred1>pj, if you have personal files/data on the system, you'll want to copy/save it elsewhere before you resize partitions
14:01<fred1>if you havent got any personal files/data/stuff on the system, its not so much a big concern
14:01<fred1>if thats the case, it'd be simpler to wipe and just start over
14:01<pj>ok
14:02<pj>I'll just keep a little backup on another hard drive.
14:02<pj>thx for the help fred and titan.
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14:03<jamesho>just seen it eventually times out with "WARNING bootdevice may be renamed. Ty root=/dev/sda1"
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14:04<jamesho>Also shows "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell"
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14:23<fred1>panthera, no, ass is too generous. "infant" is more applicable
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14:25<leland>.org
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14:26<simonrvn>try your emacs window
14:26<simonrvn>oh too late
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14:31<disspate>i have a quesiton. how do i compile a debian kernel package for ARM, natively on an ARM system? I keep getting errors during the compile process which leads me to believe that certain ARM related flags are not set for the compiler.
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14:33<graemer>hi
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14:33<graemer>how can i get a german menue for icedove
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14:33<disspate>graemer, hello
14:33<graemer>iceweasel an others have already german menues
14:34<graemer>echo $LANG -> de_DE.UTF-8
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14:39<disspate>i have a quesiton. how do i compile a debian kernel package for ARM, natively on an ARM system? I keep getting errors during the compile process which leads me to believe that certain ARM related flags are not set for the compiler.
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14:42<ml|>dpkg: arm
14:42<dpkg>well, arm is Advanced RISC Machine, a processor architecture, or http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ or best supported in #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. Devices supported by the Debian ARM port include the Linksys <NSLU2> and Thecus <N2100>. The Debian arm port has been deprecated by <armel> and is no longer present in testing or unstable.
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14:44<disspate>ml|, i'm sorry, i'm quite new to this, so i don't really know what that means.
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14:44<ml|>disspate: try asking in #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net
14:45<disspate>ml|, i did. i'm in there right now.
14:46<ml|>ok, good luck
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14:46<disspate>ml|, this is puzzling to me because my gcc seems to be configured to compile arm binary executables. so in theory it shouldn't have any problem compiling an arm kernel package natively?
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14:48<ml|>disspate: I would like to help, but I have no clue; why I suggested the above
14:48<disspate>ml|, ok, just checking. thanks.
14:49<ml|>maybe someone will you here or in #debian-arm
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14:49<ml|>s/will/will help/
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14:54<panv>Please, anybody knows a channel for kismet ??
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14:55<panv>i am facing a problem to install kismet
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14:56<panv>when i do ./configure
14:56<panv>i get the following error
14:56<panv>checking for main in -lstdc++... no
14:56<panv>configure: error: Neither uclibc uClibc++ or standard gcc stdc++ libraries found.
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14:56<panv>i have ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
14:56<retrospectacus>did you try apt-get install kismet
14:56<retrospectacus>also
14:56<retrospectacus>!ubuntu
14:56<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>.
14:57<panv>it works from apt...
14:57<panv>but i need the most recent
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14:57<retrospectacus>well you need to install some libraries, but you should ask in #ubuntu on freenode
14:58<panv>i cannot access ubuntu
14:58<panv>lol
14:58<ml|>there is #kismet at irc.freenode.net; but should also ask in #ubuntu
14:58<panv>my ip is banned there coz of open proxy.. i don't understand what that is
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15:00<panv>Banned: Open Proxy found on your IP 82.128.125.114
15:00<panv>can anyone help me with this too ?
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15:02<melmothX>panv: you or someone who has used this ip was an open proxy
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15:02<panv>so ? what can i do ?
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15:02<panv>melmothX, ??
15:03<dr|z3d>panv: Are you running a Tor server, for example?
15:03<panv>dr|z3d, ... i just dont understand/know
15:03<ml|>don't use a proxy, on freenode?
15:03<melmothX>so, assuming it's a dynamic ip, the previous user was a open proxy (e.g. port 8080 open that can be used as a proxy for the whole world), the ip was put in a open proxy list, you use this ip now and get banned
15:03<panv>i don't use a p[roxy
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15:03<dr|z3d>Otherwise, you can get in touch with the freenode admins and ask them to unblock you. There is a procedure, listed on their site.
15:04<panv>dr|z3d, i should always use a proxy ?
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15:05<dr|z3d>panv: Who said that? No, Whether you use a proxy or not is entirely your preference. I don't know the first thing about you to recommend that, or not.
15:05<panv>i am just a normal user.. i don't understand all this
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15:05<dr|z3d>Well, it's a freenode issue, not a Debian one..
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15:06<dr|z3d>So it's not really something we can help you with here, beyond the help already offered.
15:06<panv>anyway guys... thx for everything... cheers...
15:06<panv>byebye
15:06<melmothX>panv: if it's a dynamic ip, reboot the router and retry
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15:19<kpoorman>How can I eradicate all references to old repos on my box?
15:20<kpoorman>I took the repo's out of my sources.list file
15:20<kpoorman>but apt is still finding the older versions of the package
15:20<ml|>did you aptitude update after?
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15:21<kpoorman>yes
15:21<kpoorman>ml|: yes I did.
15:21<kpoorman>well, apt-get update
15:22<themill>kpoorman: what do you mean by "finding"
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15:22<kpoorman>so I created a local mirror
15:22<rex>does deb support lighttpd ? will i be able to ask about it in here
15:22<ml|>anyhting in /etc/apt/
15:22<kpoorman>and put my own backported packages in it
15:22<ml|>oops
15:22<kpoorman>and now my client box can't see the new backported version (5.2.12) of php5
15:23<themill>kpoorman: the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy php5" would be handy.
15:24<vvas>kpoorman: also check sources.list.d in case there's some stray file left there
15:24<kpoorman>themill: http://pastebin.com/m67c9433d
15:24<ml|>anyhting in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ I meant
15:25<kpoorman>nothing there
15:25<themill>!show sources.list kpoorman
15:25<dpkg>kpoorman: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \;
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15:27<kpoorman>themill: http://pastebin.com/m3f4fa07
15:27<kpoorman>there is nothing, ie: no files, in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
15:27<kpoorman>i only have my sources.list file
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15:30<themill>kpoorman: that sources.list and the policy output you gave earlier don't match -- I presume you've clumsily redacted some information in one of them?
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15:30<kpoorman>themill: thats what i'm trying to figure out... I commented out lines in the sources.list file... but thats all I've done to redact anything
15:30<ml|>rex: /msg dpkg lighttpd
15:31<themill>kpoorman: foo.com != icontact.com though ...
15:31<kpoorman>themill: ah, true. I was trying to be discreet
15:31<kpoorman>I replaced it with foo.com
15:31<themill>yeah, that's fine. I understand now... ;)
15:32<themill>Have you checked whether your apt-mirror repo you have there contains this package?
15:32<kpoorman>themill: i added it with
15:32<kpoorman>reprepro -Vb /var/www/apt-mirror includedeb /path/to/deb
15:32<kpoorman>that I careated
15:32<kpoorman>it seems like it's there...
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15:33<themill>kpoorman: that's when apt is getting it from then... remove it from that repo or remove the repo from the sources.list to have apt forget about it
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15:34<kpoorman>themill: i'm trying to add my backported package to the repo so that I can install it from my local repo on any of my local boxes...
15:34<kpoorman>themill: so what am I supposed to remove from the repo? the repo only contains information about the 5.2.12 packages
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15:35<themill>kpoorman: now I'm confused. I thought you wanted to get rid of this package, but now you're wanting to add it?
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15:36<gdb>you have to bump the version if you're going to have your system aware of 2 packages with the same name
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15:36<kpoorman>themill: yes and no. I am trying to upgrade my local boxes from my local repo to version 5.2.12 of php5. However my client boxes can't seem to forget about php5.2.5
15:36<gdb>ie; if you have 5.2.12 somewhere, you can't also have 5.2.12 somewhere else
15:36<gdb>one of them has to change versions
15:37<kpoorman>gdb: I only have 5.2.12 in one place
15:37<gdb>oh
15:37<gdb>well silly me then
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15:38<themill>kpoorman: so that's sort of the opposite to what we've been looking at so far. We need to see the output of "apt-cache policy php5" from one of the boxes that is only wanting to install 5.2.5 instead of 5.2.12.
15:38<kpoorman>themill: thats what I gave you
15:39<themill>kpoorman: well "aptitude install php5" on that box will install 5.2.12. That's what that output says.
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15:39<kpoorman>here's what happens when I do that
15:40<kpoorman>its says the package is broken
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15:40<gdb>unmet dependancies?
15:40<gdb>did you build this package yourself or get it from somewhere else?
15:40<kpoorman>I built it myself.
15:40<themill>ahh... now we're getting somewhere... that's an entirely different problem to what you've been talking about. Can you pastebin the entire output of your aptitude run?
15:41<gdb>^
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15:41<kpoorman>it's an unmet dependency on libapache2-mod-php5 which is in the repo as 5.2.12 but only showing as 5.2.3
15:41<kpoorman>http://pastebin.com/m2e1a059b.
15:41<themill>kpoorman: you only put php5_....deb into the repo rather than all the packages that it made. There will be a pile of .debs made from your backport.
15:42<kpoorman>themill: I totally put the libapache2-mod-php5 debs in the repo
15:42<gdb>Did you rebult the Packages file?
15:42<gdb>I think that's what it's called...
15:43<themill>kpoorman: did you add them with reprepro or just copy in the .debs?
15:43<gdb>ie; just copying there doesn't work -- did you set up the repo files again after putting them there?
15:43<kpoorman>gdb: reprepro does it when the package is added
15:43<gdb>ah okay good
15:43<kpoorman>and I used reprepro to add the deb
15:43<gdb>Just brainstormin'!
15:43<kpoorman>(reprepro -Vb /var/www/apt-mirror includedeb lenny /path/to/file)
15:43<themill>kpoorman: you can add the .changes file which will add all of them at once.
15:44<kpoorman>root@ci01:/var/www/apt-mirror# reprepro list lenny libapache2-mod-php5
15:44<kpoorman>lenny|main|amd64: libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.12.dfsg.1-2
15:44<themill>(reprepro -Vb $BASE include lenny $foo.changes)
15:44<kpoorman>themill: yeah, I added the debs, but I did include all of them
15:44<kpoorman>themill: as you can see from the output above
15:45<kpoorman>which was run on the repo box
15:45<kpoorman>it's like the client box can't let go of the old version of libapache2-mod-php5
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15:46<kpoorman>now i'm getting No candidate version found for libapache2-mod-php5
15:47<themill>kpoorman: Can you look in the Packages file in your repo to make sure that the package is listed? should be /var/www/apt-mirror/dists/lenny/main/binary-amd64/Packages
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15:48<peamon>bonjour, hello
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15:49<kpoorman>themill: it's there
15:49<kpoorman>Package: libapache2-mod-php5
15:49<kpoorman>Source: php5
15:49<kpoorman>Version: 5.2.12.dfsg.1-2
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15:49<peamon>Bonjour
15:49<peamon>hello...
15:49<kpoorman>oh come on. 3 lines?
15:49<kpoorman>themill: anyway it's in the file
15:49<themill>kpoorman: plus the line you typed earlier.... 4 == kick.
15:49<peamon>i have a question
15:50<kpoorman>themill: I appologize for exceeding the limit.
15:50<peamon>does anyone know WordBiz ?
15:50<kpoorman>what else can I check? How can I blow away the client boxes understanding of what packages are available ?
15:50<themill>kpoorman: I presume that the client box is in fact amd64. (just checking!)
15:51<peamon>i just upgrade my debian etch to squezze and WordBiz doesn't work anymore (he cannot connect to the server)
15:51<kpoorman>themill: oh screw me.
15:51<gdb>comment out everything in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list and run aptitude update (I don't think this will help, but that will effectively delete your system's memory of any repositories)
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15:51<peamon>how do i can trace why the connection doesn't work ?
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15:52<gdb>wow oldstable -> testing.. that's quite a transition
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15:52<mase>peamon what does wordbiz tell/show?
15:52<themill>!java ipv6
15:52<dpkg>As of netbase 4.38, net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is set, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/10/msg00541.html. This currently breaks networking in java, see http://bugs.debian.org/560044 for solutions.
15:52<themill>peamon: ^^ at a wild guess
15:53<gdb>I read a post on the planet about that.
15:53<vvas>yeah, it took me a while to figure out why azureus had suddenly stopped working one day in December...
15:53<peamon>mase: server out of service or problem to connect to internet but under windows it works so server is not out of servive
15:54<kpoorman>themill: thanks! do you know how to pdebuild a backport ? so I can make a i386 on an amd64 box
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15:55<themill>kpoorman: you can have an i386 chroot on an amd64 box so it's fairly easy to do it that way around.
15:55<vvas>indeed, i was about to suggest the same
15:55<themill>kpoorman: debootstrap takes an --arch paramter.
15:56<vvas>debootstrap + schroot make it very easy to set up and use
15:56<gdb>peamon: You need to add this to the invokation of your Java application: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
15:56<peamon>dpkg: ok thanks a lot
15:56<dpkg>peamon: i don't know
15:57<vvas>actually i have it the other way round than most people: a 64-bit processor, a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit userland, and a 64-bit chroot
15:57<mase>:D dpkg is a bot
15:57<peamon>gbd : thanks too...
15:57<gdb>:-D
15:58<kpoorman>themill: I've done it with another package I created from scratch
15:59<kpoorman>just didn't know how big a deal it would be to do it for a backported package
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15:59<mc74x>hola
16:00<mc74x>buenas tardes
16:00<dr|z3d>!es
16:00<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
16:00<mase>1..2..3
16:00<peamon>gdb: my problem is solve :) effectivlly comming from what dpkg says ipv6 and Java ...
16:01<themill>kpoorman: no harder at all, really. BTW you might like to add "~iconnect" or similar to the end of your version strings with a changelog entry to say that the package was rebuilt as a backport. It will make it easier to see what has gone on and easier to upgrade to squeeze later on should squeeze have that exact same version of php5.
16:01<themill>kpoorman: See the way packages on backports.org are presented for examples of what I mean.
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16:01<sheldon>bonsoir tout le monde.
16:02<peamon>soir
16:02<sheldon>bon on doit vous demandez 20 fois par jour mais j'ai besoin d'aide pour installer ma GC sous debian
16:02<sheldon>ca vous interesse parce que je comprends rien :)
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16:02<themill>!fr
16:02<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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16:02<sheldon>ho sorry :p
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16:06<yuvalo>how do I make an ISO from DOK?
16:06<yuvalo>preferably with dd
16:06<kop>yuvalo: What's DOK?
16:07-!-mode/#debian [+l 403] by debhelper
16:07<yuvalo>kop, Disk On Key
16:07<yuvalo>USB flash drive
16:07<yuvalo>sandisk cruzer for the matter
16:07<yuvalo>.. /dev/sdb
16:07<sheldon>i need help to configure my GC on debian lenny
16:07<sheldon> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
16:08<sheldon>here my GC and dont understand what i need to install...
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16:10<kop>yuvalo: The problem is that, iirc, the boot process off a CD is different from that of a usb drive.
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16:10<kop>yuvalo: Check out syslinux. You'll probably be able to use that to convert. But, what are you really trying to do. There might be an easier way.
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16:11<yuvalo>kop, put the contents of the flash drive, including MBR onto DVD
16:11<kop>yuvalo: You can always dd it and burn that to a file on cd and mount it loopback, if all you want is the data.
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16:12<kop>yuvalo: You'll probably need to mount it and re-master a bootable ISO with syslinux. But I'm not an expert so don't take my word for it.
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16:14<yuvalo>kop, I need to boot from the optical media (It's actually DVD-size)
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16:15<kop>yuvalo: But boot what? Linux?
16:15<yuvalo>kop, win7
16:17<kop>yuvalo: Dunno. But I'm pretty sure you'll have to chain to the existing bootloader. Maybe not, if you can identify it. Read the wodim man pages regarding booting.
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16:18<Titan8990>the win7 image doesn't already contain a bootloader?
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16:18<Titan8990>i doubt windows admin are out there chainloading their windows install discs, or even that most of them could
16:18<kop>Titan8990: Booting off cd is different than anything else, iirc.
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16:30<ryan_at_werk>trying to compile sendmail w/ ldap support in lenny...I get this error:
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16:30<ryan_at_werk>map.c:(.text+0x2bc4): undefined reference to `sm_ldap_clear'
16:30<ryan_at_werk>map.c:(.text+0x434c): undefined reference to `sm_ldap_setopts'
16:31<MenaLo>what
16:31<MenaLo>?
16:31<kpoorman>themill: is there a way to call apt-get -b source packagename and have it auto build against i386
16:31<ryan_at_werk>what am I missing?
16:32<themill>kpoorman: not that I know of. apt-get -b will build it in your current system whereas you probably want to build it in a chroot.
16:32<Titan8990>ldap libs probably
16:32<kpoorman>themill: is there a howto on using a chroot to build a backport ?
16:32<Titan8990>!pbuilder
16:32<dpkg>hmm... pbuilder is "personal package builder", a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are optionally targetted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian
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16:33<Titan8990>not sure if pbuilder handles cross-compile as well or not
16:33<Titan8990>i assume it does
16:33<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: I do have libs installed, ldap-utils, libldap-2.4-2, libldap2-dev, libnet-ldap-perl. Unless I'm missing something else...
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16:33<kpoorman>but I can't just pbuilder inside the directory tree
16:34<kpoorman>can I
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16:35<Titan8990>kpoorman, don't know, check out the docs
16:36<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, are you sure the debian package doesn't have ldap support?
16:36<kpoorman>Titan8990: for the record, it appears you can. hot dog
16:36<Titan8990>i thought sendmail used milters for authentication
16:37<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: I'm trying to compile sendmail from source
16:37<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: we use ldap for auth
16:37<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, right.... but are you sure that the sendmail package in debian, for debian, that is supported by debian does not have the features you need?
16:38<Titan8990>because what your trying to do is generally not supported
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16:39<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: lol, no I haven't checked the debian package. Perhaps I will if I can't resolve this.
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16:39<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, i don't understand, why even consider compiling from source?
16:39<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, are you a gentoo user?
16:41<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: I guess you could make that argument for any software, not just sendmail
16:41<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, exactly...
16:42<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, if your going to use debian, you should use debian software
16:42<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, if you want to compile everything, use gentoo or slackware
16:42<Titan8990>or sourcemage (eww)
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16:43<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: not trying to compile everything, just sendmail :)
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16:44<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, yes, but why sendmail?
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16:49<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: it's the main service for this system. choosing to compile to customize the install
16:51<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, what do you think that will accomplish that the debian provided software will not?
16:51<Titan8990>!xy problem
16:51<dpkg>from memory, xy problem is that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://wooledge.org/mywiki/XyProblem
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16:52<ryan_at_werk>Titan8990: oh brother...thx for the help
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16:53<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, now thats out of the way
16:53<Titan8990>!recompile
16:53<dpkg>hmm... recompile is Why have the source available for a kernel if your not going to use it? Dont fear the code, fear leads to hate, hate leads to anger, anger leads to The Dark side (aka windows)
16:53<Titan8990>thats not the right one...
16:53<Titan8990>!package recompile
16:53<dpkg>1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules> <apt-get source>
16:54<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, the above is what you would typically do if the debian package lacked ldap support that you needed to add
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16:54<Titan8990>ryan_at_werk, but there likely would have been a reason it was excluded in the first place (such as libs that don't play nice with the rest of the system)
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16:55<beard>i'm happy because my eeepc's wifi now runs on ath5k instead of madwifi :)
16:55<kop>ryan_at_werk: Hard to belive it debian's sendmail does not like ldap. (Although I prefer use posfix and keep my sanity.)
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16:55<kop>postfix
16:56<beard>all you have to do is get the kernel 2.6.26 sources from the website and make them
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16:57<ml|>kop: heh, so you are sane? ;)
16:58<mase>or exim?
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17:24<locklace>!qotd0
17:24<dpkg><overclocker> hi, i'n using x3270 to connect to a sco server, everithing works fine except the function keys, ideas? <asg> overclocker: do you have a license for the function keys? <overclocker> i just want to use the F-keys of my keyboard when i connect to the sco server, do i need a licence to do that?
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17:27<emma>!ciao a tutti
17:27<locklace>!it
17:27<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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17:36<mains>hello
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17:36<mains>any there
17:36<babilen>no, sorry
17:37<mains>what means
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17:37<streuner>!ask
17:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:37<babilen>mains: if you have a question just ask it. people will answer ..
17:38<miguel000>since some time im unable to watch videos. vlc plays only sound, and mplayer reports some strange error
17:38<miguel000>intterrupted by signal 11 in module demux_open
17:38<streuner>do you have codecs installed?
17:38<miguel000>it used to work before
17:38<miguel000>im not sure WHAT happened
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17:39<K0JIbKA1>Hi, all!
17:39<mains>what is the differance in i486 i386
17:40<locklace>i100
17:40<miguel000>i suppose 486 supports some additional instructions
17:40<K0JIbKA1>Time
17:40<streuner>!i386
17:40<dpkg>it has been said that i386 is the designation for the "common ordinary garden-variety PC" architecture. Runs on everything from the 80386SX (woody) or 80486SX (sarge) and up. If you don't know what arch you want, you want this one.
17:40<babilen>mains: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I486 --> section "Differences between the 386 and 486"
17:42<miguel000>what can be the reason that no videos work , despite codecs
17:42<mains>my processer is intel p4 3.06 and motherboad d101ggc but graphics problem when i install i386 linux but i486 works fine why
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17:43<babilen>miguel000: which debian version do you use? do you use the players from debian-multimedia? provide a little more information. I would also suggest asking in #mplayer and #vlc - they might be able to debug your problem and we can help you to install probably missing packages ...
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17:44<oznt>hi guy, I've discovered my syslog files, are rapidly blowing up due to tons of message from iptables. Am I under attack ? Anyone has an idea ?
17:45<babilen>oznt: It might help if you let us have a look at these messages. You could also configure iptables to stop this excessive logging
17:45<miguel000>babilen, : the very strange thing is, that it USED to work before. and i do not really remember changing anything. im using the mplayer frim the debian-multimedia reporistory. how do i check the version of debian again?
17:45<mains>ubuntu jaunty graphics problem in booting but boss linux is works in my pc
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17:46<oznt>babilen, I'll post it now
17:46<babilen>miguel000: You will find most of these channels on irc.freenode.net ... I am away now - Just wanted to give you a few hints on how to proceed. If you are unable to solve it here, write to the mailing list (debian-user) and ask there
17:46<miguel000>ok thx babilen
17:47<oznt>here's an output of tail /var/log/syslog
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17:48<oznt>can be any harm if I erase some of the log files ? the exceed 1 GB already
17:48<babilen>no, absolutely not
17:48<babilen>!tell oznt -about paste
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17:48<oznt>babilen, sorry I forgot to put the link
17:48<oznt>http://paste.debian.net/56700/
17:48<oznt>tiredness ...
17:49<babilen>oznt: you might also want to ask in #netfilter@irc.freenode.org - but let us have a look at the output first. Also provide the output of "iptables -L"
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17:50<babilen>oznt: let people have a look at your iptables configuration and i think you'll just have to disable some LOG rules :-D
17:50<babilen>oznt: good luck!
17:50<babilen>miguel000: you too ...
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17:51<oznt>here is the output of iptables -L
17:51<oznt>http://paste.debian.net/56701/
17:51<c36pop>hi i had some problem to use ekiga , so i remove pulseaudio , a,d now i can not have sound with alse anymore , can somebody help
17:52<K0JIbKA1>Router D-Link DIR-300 refuses lease dhcp connection to Debian-Lenny laptop dhclient goes to never ending loop asking for IP. There are eth0 and wlan0 interfaces. This happens only if several reboots were done to PC. Any suggestions how to restart network interface without rebooting PC?
17:52<babilen_away>oznt: is this your iptables configuration?
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17:52<oznt>babilen_away, I'm using firestarter, I'm not much of the best iptables man :-s
17:53<hscade_>K0JIbKA1: /etc/init.d/networking restart
17:53<vvas>K0JIbKA1: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
17:53<babilen_away>oznt: Ok, not much help from me then. You should investigate all lines that start with LOG .. you are logging a lot (maybe even every package)
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17:54<babilen_away>oznt: I always use iptables directly, so not much help from me ... But it should be relatively easy to implement your setup in iptables *without* the excessive logging ..
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17:55<oznt>hmm... ok,,, I just activated firewall gui, and the crazy logging stopped ...
17:55<oznt>wiered
17:55<oznt>anyway, is it ok if I erase the log files ?
17:55<babilen_away>oznt: have you implemented this?
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17:57<oznt>babilen_away, implemented what ?
17:57<babilen_away>oznt: Anyway - I would highly suggest to fix your firewall setup. Let people in #netfilter and #firestarter (both freenode IIRC) have a look at that iptables -L output ... learn iptables (or preferably pf on Debian/kFreeBSD) and implement a good firewall .. good luck. Will be back later!
17:57<babilen_away>oznt: the firewall
17:57<MORPHEUS>quale il canale italiano?
17:57<babilen_away>!il
17:57<dpkg>il is, like, Israel, home of some truly great people
17:57<jpinx-eeepc>anyone able to help me sort out why an external usb hdd is not being recognise at boot time or when plugged in? It works when mounted manually
17:57<babilen_away>oznt: the problem are all the lines / rules that start with LOG
17:58<c36pop>jpinx-eeepc
17:58<dr|z3d>!it
17:58<babilen_away>jpinx-eeepc: greetings and see you later!
17:58<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
17:58<c36pop>do you have gparted install
17:58<jpinx-eeepc>dmesg is saying that it's there
17:58<jpinx-eeepc>babilen_away: c y l8r ;)
17:58<c36pop>jpinx: do you hace gparted installed
17:58<oznt>babilen_away, and as soon as I started firestarter it stopped all the logging
17:58<oznt>weired but true ...
17:58<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: no gparted, just commandline
17:59<oznt>babilen_away, it's been quiet in all messages for more then 8 minutes now.
17:59<oznt>does anyone here know if it is ok to erase these files ?
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18:00<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: I'm using pcmanfm in lxde - no gnome stuff - too bulky
18:00<c36pop>jpinx : i had that problem when gparted was installed because it created some rules in /etc/hal
18:00<c36pop>maybe you should look there
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18:00<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: I'll take alook anyway ;)
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18:01<c36pop>look in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
18:01<K0JIbKA1>hscade: did not work; vvas: neither
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18:03<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: everything is commented out in there
18:03<mains>vlc deb file need
18:03<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: that's in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
18:04<c36pop>jpinx : you could then first type udevadm monitor and plug your disk to check if udev is working coorectly
18:04<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: and there's nothing in information or preprobe
18:04<c36pop>i m pasting you my preference.fdi conf
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18:05<c36pop>here it is
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18:05<c36pop>http://pastebin.com/m10d2aac9
18:06<c36pop>i had the same problem has you cause of gparted some time ago
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18:06<c36pop>those line enabled the automounting
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18:06<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: my udevadm monitor is showing the plugin event ok
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18:07<jpinx-eeepc>cool - checking the paste......
18:07<c36pop>then maybe check with my preference.fdi and restart hal or maybe even computer if it do not works i can not help anymore
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18:09<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: great - copying that into preferences.fdi and I'll try the restart or reboot - brb ;)
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18:12<adb>ah , how can i found what prevent running apache on 80 port, it say 'an't bind to port: :: 80 Address already in use ' ?
18:12<adb>can't*
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18:15<retrospectacus>adb: browse to it?
18:15<retrospectacus>wget http://localhost
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18:16<retrospectacus>probably apache is already running
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18:16<adb>it say > connection was refused when attempting to contact 192.168.1.21
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18:17<adb>and is a first install of apache/lighttpd/httpd
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18:18<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: restarting hal didn't do it - going for a reboot
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18:21<c36pop>hi could anybody explain , if the recomended sound server is alsa or pulseaudio
18:22<adb>alsa is recomended
18:22<adb>recommended*
18:23<adb>explain ? not me ..
18:23<c36pop>i have both installed is it possible ?
18:23<adb>just try
18:25<c36pop>i removed pulse audio cause i noticed that it was installed i don't know how , then a removed/reinstalled alsa and now i do not have soud anymore
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18:26<locklace>c36pop: cat /proc/asound/cards, speaker-test -t wav -c 2, alsamixer
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18:27<c36pop>speakertest says ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
18:28<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: still getting an error - http://pastebin.com/d18c89fed
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18:30<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: does that make any sense to you?
18:30<c36pop>no , sorry
18:31<jpinx-eeepc>:(
18:31<jpinx-eeepc>thanks anyway
18:31<jpinx-eeepc>I'll try re-installing or re-configuring the filemanager
18:31<c36pop>mmm
18:32<c36pop>and in /dev/sdx you can see and then manually mount the disk is it ?
18:33<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: yes - manula mount is not a problem
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18:34<c36pop>you are using gnome ?
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18:34<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: no - I use lxde - lightweight
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18:35<c36pop>maybe it simply do not give a mount point to hal , but i do not exactly know how it works
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18:38<adb>how can i found what prevent running apache like on 80 port, it say 'can't bind to port: :: 80 Address already in use ' ?
18:38<jpinx-eeepc>c36pop: going for another reboot...
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18:39<c36pop>adb : netstat -ltunp
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18:41<adb>tks c36pop
18:42<adb>but nothing
18:42<amphi>c36pop: 'plunt' is the canonical form ;)
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19:06<staspika>Hi! Is there any possibility to find out what VESA modes are available on my hardware?
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19:07<pickett>[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[A[A[A
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19:08<staspika>!VESA
19:08<dpkg>VESA stands for "Video Electronics Standards Association" and is a mode that can be used on viedo cards for the framebuffer xserver and other neat stuff. Not accelerated.
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19:09<staspika>!VESA modes
19:09<dpkg>well, fbcon resolution is run "aptitude install hwinfo && hwinfo --framebuffer" as root, choose a mode from the resulting list of available modes. The mode will be named in hex, something like 0x305. Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with "# kopt=" and add "vga=0x305" (substituting your chosen mode), then run "update-grub" and reboot.
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19:11<abrotman>staspika: you can msg the bot
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19:13<staspika>abrotman, what do you mean?
19:13<abrotman>staspika: /msg dpkg vesa
19:15<staspika>O...k, so I can avoid disturbing the whole channel?
19:15<abrotman>yes, please
19:16<staspika>ok, sorry. I didn't know.
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19:42<retrospectacus>!fruitsmite dpkg
19:42*dpkg smites dpkg with a truckload of oranges
19:42<sabayonuser>hi all
19:43<sabayonuser>i'm installing debian and for the first tim in my life grub is giving me a lot of problems
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19:43<sabayonuser>it doesn't even start
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19:44<sabayonuser>I installed debian on this hardware several times, but never had a problem like this
19:44<coolworld>im still trying to get sound to work in debian
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19:45<sabayonuser>now I'am on a live, serching in /boot/grub informations about the problem, how can I understand if is all ok?
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21:19<nasrullah1>could anyone send me afree install cd or dvd of debian please........
21:20<nasrullah1>no reply?????
21:21<abrotman>nasrullah1: you can just download one
21:21<bremner>or use a usb key
21:22<nasrullah1>i do not have a broadband service
21:22<nasrullah1>a request
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21:24<nasrullah1>is Debian compatible with prolink netbook???
21:25<bremner>nasrullah1: do you know about http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
21:25<nasrullah1>ok ..thank you bremer
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21:30<ml|>nasrullah1: if you have a local linux user group (lug) in your area, might be able to get one at a lug meeting
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21:39<Wireless>hello
21:40<Wireless>excuse the newb question but can anyone point me in the right direction on how to modify the transmit power settings on a wireless card?
21:40<sney`>it's probably an iwconfig option
21:41<Wireless>thats where i have been looking ....
21:41<Wireless>am i to assume the tx power is the transmit power ?
21:42<sney`>yes that's it
21:42<Wireless>so how would i edit that value
21:42<Wireless>is there some ee thing?
21:42<sney`>iwconfig interfacename txpower value
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21:45<Wireless>with interface i assume probably wrong to use wlan1
21:46<Wireless>SET failed on device wlan1 ; Operation not permitted. as i get that error
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21:53<Wireless>hello?
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22:27<cabbie>Just installed Lenny on a 3-yr old Acer Aspire 3620 and IT ROCKS -- Thanks Debian developers!
22:27<abrotman>yay, happy customer!
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22:29<cabbie>Could not get opengl working under Ubuntu but it (+ xine, mplayer, etc etc) work flawlessly under Debian 503. Very cool.
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22:32<technocp>hello
22:32<technocp>no ones here
22:32<cabbie>hello technocp
22:33<technocp>hi Elite_ I am using a program using wine which is working perfectly but I get some problems when I am printing. I am not sure if it is a problem given by Ubntu, wine or my vesa driver. I am using Vesa Driver because with my intel driver the speed of program i am running is very slow. to this I found that xorg is eating most of the processor and after googling I found we can resolve it by using vesa driver. I definitely got it right and now the speed i
22:33<technocp>ssue is resolved. but the thing is that I am not able to increase the screen resolution and the printing problem as I said earlier
22:33<technocp>hi cabbie
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22:34<technocp>hi odla
22:34<odla>?
22:34<cabbie>technocp: you familiar with postgreSQL?
22:35<abrotman>you can just ask everyone
22:35<odla>does debian-backports have an irc channel?
22:35<technocp>not really
22:36<abrotman>odla: it used to be #debian-backports .. but i think it's gone
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22:36<odla>abrotman: ok that's what i thought
22:37<cabbie>too early to post ; will check the documentation more fully first :) (re postgresql)
22:37<abrotman>ok
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22:39<odla>abrotman: thanks
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