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#debian IRC Logs for 2010-02-02

---Logopened Tue Feb 02 00:00:15 2010
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00:43<firefox>I have a friends laptop I want to ssh into. I didnt want the ssh on a default port.. so I changed it. now what I am wondering is there a way I can use UPnP to open that port on w/e router he's behind. will gupnp-tools work?
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03:19<sc34asdcaws>sc34asdcaws tjol _Serge_ snipe lucascoala vsayer [Serge] Worf_ dotslash debalance maKtieOS and1bm freealan xayon Celtiore Coolinger Yoda`Taff streuner__ Torsten_W swo victor alephnull doomcup ijuz jm_ gbp fddfoo firefox SubZero jpinx-eeepc Amorphous mase_ iwamatsu tjol_ paultag raylu tlyu jcwu azeem craigevil snogglethorpe gdb goodger_ Freakazoid hardwalker byonk ivan` brlancer ABCD dr|z3d Bolle1961 sney MadMaMa jscinoz Satsuma niek
03:19<sc34asdcaws>matth ccd rockstar Yionel mentor rpetre peej rzyz huseyin simonrvn cornel bittin diggy chahibi alienux2 stroyan chattr CosmicB quasisane ant_ rudi_s_ wr| bzed dpkg E0x waa ambuli__ jmm jez9999 |[i||AZ brendan_ not_mac ripi vedran UNera sardyno domingo jamuraa Alam_Squeeze vulc4n ptr colby erin dserban__ ComradeHaz` Christmas phorce1 coucouf oskie stalker_ meglaw_ s0lid LoRez morphium TCW yoruk nenolod tomaw ryanc bgupta infernix Kno
03:19<sc34asdcaws>BlackFate eightyeight Kvant annttu locklace lancetw ml| isak chaos sney` elky nou T_X satanus weasel iwamatsu__ Man_of_Wax vvas J0hnD0h kutio franklin M0ffe k1lumin4t1 Gromitt Tero Wyzard DLange OdyX chihchun judd jmho Name1ess hobbestigrou_ [Jason] gernot Gathond tamiko RichiH munga Oyashiro X-LP alvarezp maxb nb lenios saapas djj FloodServ donfede snorre fgrequena SEJeff paistis ssb massmc elusivio Elessar fnordus xsdg perk musca
03:19<sc34asdcaws>kenyon zobel esaym153 eljefe HellDragon` adb mjung samferry zumbi maxitech buffoon_work esk wnd sdk flypiper dinomite_ phuuchai djw hopchewer_ RedLance hachi MoDaX FilipeMaia Beirdo ArthurLiu egggman StarkD weechat_user Supaplex Hazel|work cdlu CompWizrd lavaramano h2oman pde oxmoz kop SuperDale fnmueller kmap otakup0pe pi_ rmayorga zhengyi emonge elsimio ewanm89 jvw Yoda-BZH Maulkin derfel r ghantoos Myon xzu MikeN aropupu zeroXten
03:19<sc34asdcaws>helix davromaniak Daniel_Duesentrieb aef crib dooglus yang guide gsimmons coruja cfrabel_ less @Ganneff Laney RexKille1 lionel Otter creyon_ Celelibi deavid mikegrb jrabbit peterS djbclark dkr @debhelper dondelelcaro Hydroxide ctaylor Roa_ astronut kingsley cmyers Pryon groulder hatta_ retrospectacus blast_hardcheese benji124 BLarg jmarsden the-dude panthera blarson lwithers seanius nutron arf`_ tonsofpcs Nemoder Intensity sutula Gu
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03:20<moniker>moniker tjol _Serge_ snipe lucascoala vsayer [Serge] Worf_ dotslash debalance maKtieOS and1bm freealan xayon Celtiore Coolinger Yoda`Taff streuner__ Torsten_W swo victor alephnull doomcup ijuz jm_ gbp fddfoo firefox SubZero jpinx-eeepc Amorphous mase_ iwamatsu tjol_ paultag raylu tlyu jcwu azeem craigevil snogglethorpe gdb goodger_ Freakazoid hardwalker byonk ivan` brlancer ABCD dr|z3d Bolle1961 sney MadMaMa jscinoz Satsuma niekie noflash
03:20<moniker>rockstar Yionel mentor rpetre peej rzyz huseyin simonrvn cornel bittin diggy chahibi alienux2 stroyan chattr CosmicB quasisane ant_ rudi_s_ wr| bzed dpkg E0x waa ambuli__ jmm jez9999 |[i||AZ brendan_ not_mac ripi vedran UNera sardyno domingo jamuraa Alam_Squeeze vulc4n ptr colby erin dserban__ ComradeHaz` Christmas phorce1 coucouf oskie stalker_ meglaw_ s0lid LoRez morphium TCW yoruk nenolod tomaw ryanc bgupta infernix Knorrie fmr avu Zhi
03:20<moniker>eightyeight Kvant annttu locklace lancetw ml| isak chaos sney` elky nou T_X satanus weasel iwamatsu__ Man_of_Wax vvas J0hnD0h kutio franklin M0ffe k1lumin4t1 Gromitt Tero Wyzard DLange OdyX chihchun judd jmho Name1ess hobbestigrou_ [Jason] gernot Gathond tamiko RichiH munga Oyashiro X-LP alvarezp maxb nb lenios saapas djj FloodServ donfede snorre fgrequena SEJeff paistis ssb massmc elusivio Elessar fnordus xsdg perk musca spion NuD CrazyF
03:20<brunch>brunch moniker tjol _Serge_ snipe lucascoala vsayer [Serge] Worf_ dotslash debalance maKtieOS and1bm freealan xayon Celtiore Coolinger Yoda`Taff streuner__ Torsten_W swo victor alephnull doomcup ijuz jm_ gbp fddfoo firefox SubZero jpinx-eeepc Amorphous mase_ iwamatsu tjol_ paultag raylu tlyu jcwu azeem craigevil snogglethorpe gdb goodger_ Freakazoid hardwalker byonk ivan` brlancer ABCD dr|z3d Bolle1961 sney MadMaMa jscinoz Satsuma niekie noflash Phoenix_the_II
03:20<moniker>esaym153 eljefe HellDragon` adb mjung samferry zumbi maxitech buffoon_work esk wnd sdk flypiper dinomite_ phuuchai djw hopchewer_ RedLance hachi MoDaX FilipeMaia Beirdo ArthurLiu egggman StarkD weechat_user Supaplex Hazel|work cdlu CompWizrd lavaramano h2oman pde oxmoz kop SuperDale fnmueller kmap otakup0pe pi_ rmayorga zhengyi emonge elsimio ewanm89 jvw Yoda-BZH Maulkin derfel r ghantoos Myon xzu MikeN aropupu zeroXten olasd azeta mrnice
03:20<moniker>Daniel_Duesentrieb aef crib dooglus yang guide gsimmons coruja cfrabel_ less @Ganneff Laney RexKille1 lionel Otter creyon_ Celelibi deavid mikegrb jrabbit peterS djbclark dkr @debhelper dondelelcaro Hydroxide ctaylor Roa_ astronut kingsley cmyers Pryon groulder hatta_ retrospectacus blast_hardcheese benji124 BLarg jmarsden the-dude panthera blarson lwithers seanius nutron arf`_ tonsofpcs Nemoder Intensity sutula Guest2852 [machine] andy V
03:20<brunch>ccd rockstar Yionel mentor rpetre peej rzyz huseyin simonrvn cornel bittin diggy chahibi alienux2 stroyan chattr CosmicB quasisane ant_ rudi_s_ wr| bzed dpkg E0x waa ambuli__ jmm jez9999 |[i||AZ brendan_ not_mac ripi vedran UNera sardyno domingo jamuraa Alam_Squeeze vulc4n ptr colby erin dserban__ ComradeHaz` Christmas phorce1 coucouf oskie stalker_ meglaw_ s0lid LoRez morphium TCW yoruk nenolod tomaw ryanc bgupta infernix Knorrie fmr avu Zhila skule BlackFate
03:20<brunch>eightyeight Kvant annttu locklace lancetw ml| isak chaos sney` elky nou T_X satanus weasel iwamatsu__ Man_of_Wax vvas J0hnD0h kutio franklin M0ffe k1lumin4t1 Gromitt Tero Wyzard DLange OdyX chihchun judd jmho Name1ess hobbestigrou_ [Jason] gernot Gathond tamiko RichiH munga Oyashiro X-LP alvarezp maxb nb lenios saapas djj FloodServ donfede snorre fgrequena SEJeff paistis ssb massmc elusivio Elessar fnordus xsdg perk musca spion NuD CrazyFoam kolter kenyon zobe
03:20<brunch>esaym153 eljefe HellDragon` adb mjung samferry zumbi maxitech buffoon_work esk wnd sdk flypiper dinomite_ phuuchai djw hopchewer_ RedLance hachi MoDaX FilipeMaia Beirdo ArthurLiu egggman StarkD weechat_user Supaplex Hazel|work cdlu CompWizrd lavaramano h2oman pde oxmoz kop SuperDale fnmueller kmap otakup0pe pi_ rmayorga zhengyi emonge elsimio ewanm89 jvw Yoda-BZH Maulkin derfel r ghantoos Myon xzu MikeN aropupu zeroXten olasd azeta mrnice frood helix davromani
03:20<brunch>Daniel_Duesentrieb aef crib dooglus yang guide gsimmons coruja cfrabel_ less @Ganneff Laney RexKille1 lionel Otter creyon_ Celelibi deavid mikegrb jrabbit peterS djbclark dkr @debhelper dondelelcaro Hydroxide ctaylor Roa_ astronut kingsley cmyers Pryon groulder hatta_ retrospectacus blast_hardcheese benji124 BLarg jmarsden the-dude panthera blarson lwithers seanius nutron arf`_ tonsofpcs Nemoder Intensity sutula Guest2852 [machine] andy Vyrus001 Getty mc68040_
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03:20<yawing>yawing tjol _Serge_ snipe lucascoala vsayer [Serge] Worf_ dotslash debalance maKtieOS and1bm freealan xayon Celtiore Coolinger Yoda`Taff streuner__ Torsten_W swo victor alephnull doomcup ijuz jm_ gbp fddfoo firefox SubZero jpinx-eeepc Amorphous mase_ iwamatsu tjol_ paultag raylu tlyu jcwu azeem craigevil snogglethorpe gdb goodger_ Freakazoid hardwalker byonk ivan` brlancer ABCD dr|z3d Bolle1961 sney MadMaMa jscinoz Satsuma niekie noflash Phoenix_the_II matt
03:20<yawing>rockstar Yionel mentor rpetre peej rzyz huseyin simonrvn cornel bittin diggy chahibi alienux2 stroyan chattr CosmicB quasisane ant_ rudi_s_ wr| bzed dpkg E0x waa ambuli__ jmm jez9999 |[i||AZ brendan_ not_mac ripi vedran UNera sardyno domingo jamuraa Alam_Squeeze vulc4n ptr colby erin dserban__ ComradeHaz` Christmas phorce1 coucouf oskie stalker_ meglaw_ s0lid LoRez morphium TCW yoruk nenolod tomaw ryanc bgupta infernix Knorrie fmr avu Zhila skule BlackFate
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03:20<yawing>esaym153 eljefe HellDragon` adb mjung samferry zumbi maxitech buffoon_work esk wnd sdk flypiper dinomite_ phuuchai djw hopchewer_ RedLance hachi MoDaX FilipeMaia Beirdo ArthurLiu egggman StarkD weechat_user Supaplex Hazel|work cdlu CompWizrd lavaramano h2oman pde oxmoz kop SuperDale fnmueller kmap otakup0pe pi_ rmayorga zhengyi emonge elsimio ewanm89 jvw Yoda-BZH Maulkin derfel r ghantoos Myon xzu MikeN aropupu zeroXten olasd azeta mrnice frood helix davrom
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03:20<ant_>wtf?
03:20<OdyX>I guess the ops where pinged too…
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03:20<diggy>wtf
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03:20<ryanc>assholes.
03:20<ryanc>that's what.
03:20<doomcup>What?
03:20<gdb>It'd be more interesting if the spam actually said something.
03:20<doomcup>Was I highlighted?
03:20<ant_>what is the point in a bot like that?
03:21<gdb>At least GNAA has a *message* when they spam.
03:21<gdb>heh
03:21<Nemoder>to annoy.
03:21<ryanc>annoy everyone
03:21<ant_>it certainly annoys!
03:21<gdb>indeed!
03:21<ryanc>by making the irc client ping
03:21<Name1ess>mIRCscript to defeat that spam:
03:21<alvarezp>I have never understood what benefit do others get by annoying.
03:21<Name1ess>on ^*:TEXT:*:#: { if ($network == OFTC && $1 == $nick) { /haltdef | /ignore $nick } }
03:21<Worf_>it worked ... i just died in WoW because of that
03:21<satanus>i thought oftc never had issues like this?
03:21<ryanc>people still use mirc?
03:21<alvarezp>I mean to say, "I have never understood what benefit do bots get by annoying".
03:22<Name1ess>ryanc: bleh
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03:22<Name1ess>Pass into on to any sysadmins : the spammers ALWAYS spam their own nick first.
03:22<Name1ess>info*
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03:23<ryanc>intersting.
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03:25<dA4ximqPIc4UYXM5>mikegrb jrabbit peterS djbclark dkr @debhelper dondelelcaro Hydroxide ctaylor Roa_ astronut kingsley cmyers Pryon groulder hatta_ retrospectacus blast_hardcheese benji124 BLarg jmarsden the-dude panthera blarson lwithers seanius nutron arf`_ tonsofpcs Nemoder Intensity sutula Guest2852 [machine] andy Vyrus001 Getty mc68040_ Meths kmshanah grummund koollman klando Jarpse Hunger paveq jhr trippeh reet xororand Flooo`Off Sirenia v
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03:25<OdyX>doh
03:25<diggy>wtf
03:25<goodger_>for the love of god, what is the point?
03:25<weasel>will you all just shut up?
03:25<weasel>thank you very much.
03:26<doomcup>That's a bit annoying
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03:26<NuD>he just found the /names -command
03:26<ant_>I wonder if they are all the same ip?
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03:26<eyl4nK-oDg051ABw>buffoon_work esk wnd sdk flypiper dinomite_ phuuchai hopchewer_ RedLance hachi MoDaX FilipeMaia Beirdo ArthurLiu egggman StarkD oxmoz kop SuperDale fnmueller kmap otakup0pe pi_ rmayorga zhengyi emonge elsimio ewanm89 jvw Yoda-BZH Maulkin derfel r ghantoos Myon xzu MikeN aropupu zeroXten olasd azeta mrnice frood helix davromaniak Daniel_Duesentrieb aef crib dooglus yang guide gsimmons coruja cfrabel_ less @Ganneff Laney RexKille
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03:26<simonrvn>ffs
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03:26<doomcup>I'm gonna step out until this blows over
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03:26<simonrvn>full-blown attack... haven't seen one in years
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03:26<fruity>rockstar mentor peej rzyz huseyin simonrvn cornel bittin diggy chahibi alienux2 stroyan chattr CosmicB quasisane ant_ rudi_s_ wr| bzed dpkg E0x waa ambuli__ jmm |[i||AZ brendan_ not_mac vedran UNera sardyno domingo jamuraa Alam_Squeeze ptr colby erin dserban__ ComradeHaz` Christmas phorce1 coucouf oskie stalker_ meglaw_ s0lid TCW yoruk nenolod tomaw ryanc bgupta infernix Knorrie fmr avu Zhila BlackFate eightyeight Kvant annttu locklace
03:26<fruity>elky nou T_X satanus weasel iwamatsu__ Man_of_Wax vvas kutio M0ffe k1lumin4t1 Gromitt Tero Wyzard DLange OdyX chihchun judd Name1ess hobbestigrou_ [Jason] gernot Gathond tamiko RichiH munga Oyashiro X-LP alvarezp maxb nb saapas djj FloodServ donfede fgrequena SEJeff paistis ssb massmc elusivio Elessar fnordus xsdg musca spion CrazyFoam kolter kenyon zobel esaym153 eljefe HellDragon` samferry zumbi maxitech buffoon_work esk wnd sdk flypi
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03:27-!-mode/#debian [+l 359] by debhelper
03:27<NuD>this is more like full fail attack
03:27<simonrvn>the bot's working better i see
03:27-!-mode/#debian [+i] by weasel
03:27<simonrvn>hehe
03:27<@weasel>nothing special about this one.
03:27<aropupu>"attack" :D
03:27<chattr>I'm easily entertained
03:27<ant_>this would be fun if I had time to treat it as an attack (and had access to try and stop it)
03:27<@weasel>nothing that bears discussion here either
03:27<simonrvn>(did i say there was anything special? ;)
03:27<ryanc>is it safe?
03:27<_Serge_>any idea when torrents with 5.0.4 will be available?
03:27<alvarezp>It's "stupid" in the scientific sense: annoy others and get no benefit.
03:28-!-mode/#debian [-i] by weasel
03:28<gdb>"giggles" could be argued to be a benefit
03:28<simonrvn>nice and quiet in the other #d
03:28<ryanc>_Serge_: Is it out?
03:28<@weasel>thank you, nothing to see, move on.
03:29<_Serge_>ryanc: I've read it is, at least it has been announced and you can update 5.0.3 to 5.0.4
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03:29<_Serge_>ryanc: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2010/msg00001.html
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03:30<ryanc>_Serge_: It's still lenny though. The version numbers only really have meaning for the CDs/DVDs AFAIU.
03:31<_Serge_>ryanc: I see, still would be nice to have .4 for the fresh installs
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03:31<ryanc>_Serge_: You can use the netinst or buisness card cds and just use the online repos for install.
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03:32<simonrvn>they keep reusing the usernames/nicks
03:32-!-kaziem [~devnull@68.Red-80-34-207.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
03:32<ant_>simonrvn, probably a very simple bot - what about ips?
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03:32<ryanc>_Serge_: is there any reason why that won't work for you?
03:32<_Serge_>ryanc: well, torrents seem to be faster, will install 5.0.3
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03:33<simonrvn>ant_: seen the same word used as a nick and as a username. hosts/ips are probably whatever's trojaned
03:33<_Serge_>I need a fresh install into vmware for the arm toolchain mainly so that I can build some tools
03:33<ryanc>_Serge_: In my experiance it's best to use the netinst cd.
03:33<ryanc>_Serge_: jigdo is also *VERY* fast.
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03:34<ant_>simonrvn, but kick+banning the ips would probably work
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03:34<ryanc>_Serge_: and the mirrors that host the individual packages are faster than the ones hosting ISOs
03:34<jm_>is this that firefox crap?
03:34<ryanc>firefox crap?
03:35<@weasel>unlikely
03:35<kaziem>wtf?
03:35<ant_>simonrvn, but kick+banning the ips would probably work
03:35<jm_>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/30/firefox_interprotocol_attack/
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03:36<simonrvn>ant_: nah, i wouldn't bother. see the autokill msgs? ;)
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03:37<firefox>its not me lol
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03:37<jm_>heh
03:37<ant_>does sound like http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/30/firefox_interprotocol_attack/
03:37<ryanc>jm_: I don't think that firefox attack can see the /names list
03:37<simonrvn>firefox: it's all your fault! :P :P
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03:37<jmm>qhi.
03:37<jmm>hi even.
03:38<firefox>is there anyway I can set like a upnp client to open ports on the router? I want a lap top to auto open ta unique ssh port no matter where it is.
03:38<firefox>simonrvn, it always is =(
03:39<simonrvn>firefox: was j/k
03:39<firefox>simonrvn, lol I know.
03:40<firefox>will gupnp-tools let me do that?
03:40<kenyon>firefox: have you tried it?
03:41<firefox>kenyon, yeah but it seems a little complex... the man doesnt help much either
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03:41<kenyon>the man is always keeping someone down
03:41<firefox>fo sho
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03:42<kenyon>there is no way to have something work "no matter where it is", because not every router works the same, even if you can do it one place
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03:43<firefox>I am going to play more with it, after I finish updating. was just thinking some one might have already done it
03:43<firefox>yeah, but %50 of the time is still nice.. its so I can remote admin my newbie linux friend..
03:44<firefox>I hate driving over thre every time something breaks
03:44<kenyon>I either use IPv6, or use ssh on the router to forward a port to an internal machine. another option is use OpenVPN and set up a VPN.
03:45<kenyon>firefox: so set up his router to forward a port.
03:45<kenyon>might be easier than figuring out upnp
03:46<firefox>kenyon, I wanted to avoid vpn. he travels around the city, and goes to diffrent friends houses.. I cant forward all their ports haha.. I already have his system set up with ddclient
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03:46<jm_>reverse tunnel maybe
03:47<kenyon>IPv6 is the real solution to this problem
03:47-!-mode/#debian [+l 353] by debhelper
03:47<firefox>kenyon, most routers have upnp on default..
03:47<firefox>jm_, hmmm.. yeah maybe
03:47<firefox>kenyon, I'll look up that then
03:47<firefox>jm_, like have his laptop contact my server..
03:47<firefox>?
03:47<kenyon>you're not likely to find native IPv6 connections in many places yet though
03:49<jm_>firefox: yup
03:49<OdyX>firefox: install aiccu on his laptop
03:49<jm_>firefox: ahh doh of course that won't work, it's the same problem
03:50<OdyX>firefox: use sixxs for example. Do the same on your side and you will always be able to contact him,.
03:50<OdyX>kenyon: native no, but tunnelled yes
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04:02<firefox>had to make tea.
04:03<firefox>do dynamic dns sites do ipv6?
04:04<firefox>there are no dumb questions here?? =)
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04:07<OdyX>dynamic dns sites ?
04:07<OdyX>firefox: sixxs allows you to get an ipv6 for your laptop, from anywhere with ipv4 connectivity
04:07<OdyX>(NAT traversal)
04:08<kenyon>as long as the router passes protocol 41, right?
04:08<jm_>he means sites like dyndns
04:09<kenyon>my stupid wireless access point won't forward ipv6
04:09<OdyX>kenyon: http://www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/ <.
04:09<kenyon>OdyX: looks good
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04:10<firefox>sweet I will check it out..
04:10<OdyX>packaged in Debian.
04:11<OdyX>damn easy to set up
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04:18<fester64x2>plz help compile kernels
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04:18<fester64x2>segin, ? you know how compile kernel debian 2
04:19<segin>wat kernel
04:19<segin>it that egg
04:19<EmleyMoor>fester64x2: Why do you need to compile?
04:19<segin>for more bogomips
04:19<fester64x2>i neeedz performanze
04:19<segin>for the speedz
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04:20<segin>your bnaries compiled for 80386
04:20<segin>dude
04:20<segin>I got a pentium 4
04:20<CosmicB>fester64x2: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch
04:20<segin>with SSE3
04:20<fester64x2>i haz the needz for speedz
04:20<segin>not a 386
04:20<fester64x2>CPU[-Dual core AMD Athlon 7550 (SMP) clocked at 2744.950 Mhz-] Kernel[-2.6.33-rc5-zen1-fest0r x86_64-] Up[-15:10-] Mem[-244.5/1943.6MB-] HDD[-40.0GB(27.1% used)-] Procs[-118-] Client[-X-Chat 2.8.6-] inxi[-1.3.7-]
04:20<fester64x2>oops
04:20<fester64x2>fuck
04:20<segin>you
04:21<fester64x2>why does inxi have to be next to playing
04:22<fester64x2>segin lets just troll ubuntu
04:22<fester64x2>debian is kind of cool
04:22<segin>k
04:22<OdyX>!en
04:22<dpkg>The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de
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04:23<firefox>any one hear about intels pathing issue? think that would affect anything in linux?
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04:37<ppl>Hi! Does anybody know a solution to maintain certain % of free space on a partition (by deleting oldest files based on ctime, for example)?
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04:39<jm_>ppl: you can reserve some space for root with ext[23] - otherwise there's also tmpreaper
04:41<ppl>jm_: While reserving space via ext[234] mechanism is not an option (process which is filling up a partition has euid != 0), tmpreaper is probably something that I'm looking for. Thank you very much!
04:42<jm_>ppl: no worries
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04:51<jmm>ppl: you can do as you said. just use a small script shell using df/find, then launch it usin cron.
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05:11<ppl>jmm: it seems that's the next solution, I'll try since tmpreaper can't maintain predefined level of free space.
05:12<ppl>jmm: s/,//
05:12<jmm>I was making the script, but coworkers called me for a break.
05:12<jmm>:)
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05:19<jmm>ppl: it should looks like that :
05:19<jmm>http://pastebin.ca/1775447
05:19<jmm>the cut is not very nice, but it's just an example.
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05:25<ppl>jmm: Thank you.
05:26<seeS>I got an xauth problem. ssh -X host ; su ; xterm <- xterm running as root fails because of xauth probs
05:26<jm_>!syx
05:26<jm_>!sux
05:26<dpkg>sux is a utility for running X apps as a different user. "aptitude install sux" and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <root x> for other alternatives. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>.
05:27<seeS>lovely name too!
05:27<ppl>jmm: I cannot delete files that are older than n days, though. I have to maintain as much archive data as I can and protect filesystem from filling up. But I'll start from there.
05:27<jmm>don't use the same of root in vain.
05:29<seeS>sux is good, it just work like you think it should
05:31<jmm>ppl: note the script doesn't only delete n day old files, it also check that that the used space in $STORAGE is not more than $MAX_USED_SPACE .
05:31<jmm>then it delete n day old files.
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05:35<ppl>jmm: I know, but imagine a situation when deletion of n day old files results in 80% of free space. Ideally, I would like to maintain nearly 100% of used space and discard oldest files. Something like 'rotated filesystem'.
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05:36<jmm>I see.
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05:40<alno>Is there any way to make an awesomely fast and minimal installation of Debian?
05:41<jmm>use netinstall without internet :)
05:41<alno>sweet idea!
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05:42<alno>meep
05:42<alno>ctrl+alt+f2 wasn't fully captured by qemu :P
05:47<OdyX>alno: put your qemu image on tmpfs
05:47<OdyX>then install with a local mirror.
05:47<OdyX>it should be somehow fast.
05:47<alno>It's on tmpfs :/
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06:01<seeS>you know, this vmware thing is supposed to be oh so simple to setup initially, but their module code sucks
06:03<fladi>hi! is there a way to configure an interface in /etc/network/interfaces for ipv6 only via autoconfig? i don't want/need any ipv4 for this interface. "auto ethX\niface ethX inet6 manual" does not seem to do the trick as it leaves the interface down.
06:04<seeS>hmm
06:06<jez>Is Debian ever likely to get a web-based bug reporting system? :-)
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06:06<seeS>auto ethX should do it
06:06<fladi>seeS: i think i already tried this. but i'll give it a chance ...
06:07<seeS>why manual?
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06:07<fladi>static requires an address and a netmask which are not needed for ipv6 autoconfig
06:07<seeS>ah!
06:08<themill>jez: unlikely. And asking in different channels about it is unlikely to change the answer.
06:09<jez>heh.
06:09<seeS>actually if it doesnt work, ipv4 manual would do it too
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06:09<seeS>all you want is the interface up
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06:10<jez>im prepared to live with having to learn a lot about a distro and configure it. but stubbornly sticking to an ancient bug reporting system is dumb. im just gonna have to contribute to another distro. :-)
06:10<OdyX>jez: Debian is made by people. If you want one, code one.
06:10<jez>what, a web based bug system? there are already a zillion
06:10<jez>lol
06:10<fladi>"auto ethX" only actually does not trigger autoconfig. "ifconfig ethX up" triggers it ... i'm confused
06:10<OdyX>jez: then setup one.
06:10<jez>i would. give me server access
06:10<jez>:-P
06:10<seeS>you need both fladi
06:11<fladi>seeS: yes, actually that's all i want to achieve :-)
06:11<OdyX>jez: for this, you have to proof that your solution is technically up to what is actually done.
06:11<koollman>jez: hmm. what is the point of a web-based bug reporting system?
06:11<jez>i dont have to worry about accessing my email to access it
06:11<OdyX>jez: so first setup one on one of your servers, and propose
06:11<seeS>i like a email based bug tracking system
06:11<koollman>you can already read the bugs. But to report them ?
06:11<jez>every other bug tracking system ive ever seen is web based
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06:12<OdyX>jez: the thing is "complaining is useless, coding is useful". You want a web-based bts ? Propose one.
06:12<koollman>jez: I'm sure I can find counter-examples, but let's agree. and ?
06:13<seeS>im not really sure of the point. what does a web-based one do that the email one doesnt?
06:13<jez>koollman: just seems to suggest that most people disagree that email based is better
06:13<jez>:-)
06:13<jez>seeS: means i dont have to worry about accessing my email to report a bug.
06:13<petemc>is that a major worry for you?
06:13<jez>as i own a domain, anything@mydomain.com can be used, and im guessing your system wants me to stick to one address
06:13<jez>yeah, frankly it's a pain. so im gonna stick to others systems
06:13<jez>:-)
06:14<seeS>ok
06:14<OdyX>jez: what is important for bugs is people, not emails
06:14<koollman>jez: also... assuming you really can't live another hour without being able to use the web ... how long would it takes you to code a web form that sends a mail ?
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06:14<seeS>web based email bug reporting systems often miss important things, like what version you are running, the dependencies, perhaps the pre-sub hooks
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06:15<koollman>(and if you want an 'alternative' to mail, how long does it take to install reportbug ? :) )
06:15<jez>that's the fault of its being web based?
06:15<fladi>seeS: nope, using both inet and inet6 in manaul mode does not trigger autoconfig.
06:15<seeS>fladi, what does ifup -a or ifup ethX do?
06:15<amol112>hi to all,while compiling gnome-traslator i am getting error as error: unable to find the GNOME libraries
06:15<koollman>jez: if you use the recommended tool (reportbug), you are less likely to forget important informations in your bug. which makes it more useful
06:15<amol112>i have installed libgnome-dev
06:16<seeS>amol112: just that error?
06:16<koollman>jez: and if you can't be contacted by mail, what's the point of letting you fill a bug ?
06:16<seeS>amol112: look in config.log
06:16<fladi>seeS: ifup -a changes nothing and ifup ethX says: interface ethX already configured
06:16<jez>koollman: i didnt say i couldn't be
06:16<jez>i said it's more of a pain
06:16<seeS>already configured... hmm
06:16<koollman>jez: if you can be... you can send one, too! :)
06:16<jez>and ... you can check bug status on the web?
06:16<koollman>jez: yes
06:17<jez>so... you dont need email at all in that case
06:17<koollman>jez: it's different. Think about the person receiving the bug.
06:18<petemc>jez: how effective do you imagine complaining on irc is?
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06:18<koollman>(the point is to make *his* task easier, before yours)
06:18<seeS>fladi: maybe all the changes confused it? /etc/network/run/ifstate has the state
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06:18<koollman>petemc: you mean... he should report it as a bug ? ;)
06:18<jez>petemc: im just replying now, not raising anything more
06:18<petemc>that, or be quiet
06:19<jez>koollman: an email based system makes his task easier how?
06:19<seeS>much much easier
06:19<koollman>(I understand your point. and you give me ideas, that I may even try to take a bit further later)
06:20<seeS>you read the email, hit reply, quote the relevant line and say 'what did you mean by this'?
06:20<jez>koollman: my point?
06:20<fladi>seeS: did a reboot after each change to avid confusion :-) assigning a static rfc1918 ipv4 address also autoconfigured an ipv6 address. strange ...
06:20<jez>seeS: a web-based system can be coded to allow that too
06:21<jez>seeS: however, you have the option of doing everything on the web when you're not at your main PC with email access like i am now
06:21<seeS>so are we discussing a web-based system with email or an email based system with web?
06:21<koollman>jez: it could be possibly easier for some persons to use a web page rather than writing a mail or using reportbug.
06:21<jez>seeS: i'd describe it as the former
06:21<seeS>fladi: looks like a missing feature to ifup
06:21<koollman>(I think it's your point)
06:21<jez>koollman: ah.
06:22<jez>koollman: you'd need to institute an accounts system
06:22<fladi>seeS: i'll investigate a bit further and file a bug then
06:22<jez>koollman: at which point transitioning to an existing web-based system would seem easier
06:22<jez>*shrug*
06:22<koollman>jez: not really. there's a lot of things going on in the bts
06:23<jez>so it'd be easier to add an accounts system to it?
06:23<amol112>seeS, configure:6897: checking for gthread-2.0 gconf-2.0 >= 2.4.0 libgnomeui-2.0 gnome-vfs-2.0 libglade-2.0 eel-2.0 >= 2.6.0 libxml-2.0
06:23<amol112>configure:6936: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries
06:23<koollman>jez: anyway, assume there's a web page that sends a correctly formatted mail to the bts. It would be fine for you ?
06:23<seeS>amoll112;
06:23<seeS>amoll112: ok so it could be any of those
06:24<amol112>seeS, i have all these libraries installed
06:24<jez>koollman: i guess, but that would be ripe for spam with no accounts system
06:24<jez>i suppose you have one based on....... email
06:24<jez>lol
06:24<koollman>jez: well, it would need the usual anti-spam measures, and perhaps if there's too much abuse, validated accounts, yes
06:24<seeS>fladi: there is a bug #413428 where they cannot set static ipv6 because the module is installed late
06:24<koollman>(there's already spam received on the bts... it's email ;) )
06:26<jez>if Ubuntu would only make their branding look nice
06:26<jez>it's weird, isn't it? the distro intended to be for more novic end users who are more likely to want something that looks nice too
06:26<jez>and it has the most disgustingly ugly branding of any distro i've seen
06:26<jez>Debian's default is way nicer in comparison
06:27<Name1ess>I agree
06:27<seeS>amol112: that's it between the lines?
06:27<amol112>seeS, yes
06:28<OdyX>jez: note that the fact that Canonical uses the web-based Launchpad makes their BTS absolutely unsorted and with way more un-answered bugs…
06:28<OdyX>well… unsorted might be wrong.
06:28<jez>OdyX: and yet i found within a minute or two the bug i was interested in
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06:28<jez>the debian system is far more arcane to me.
06:29<jez>i could also contribute to the bug by logging in, within a minute
06:29<seeS>or just type reportbug packagename
06:29<petemc>contribute by saying 'me too!' ?
06:29<jez>in debian? if i have a networking problem? :-)
06:29<jez>petemc: nah, suggesting a different solution.
06:30<seeS>i have many debian systems so just use another
06:30<amol112>seeS, i am not having package installed gnome-vfs-2.0
06:30<amol112>but there is no package with this name
06:30<jez>anyway, 'me too' can be helpful if only to judge importance of bugs according to how many users are affected
06:30<jez>;-)
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06:30<seeS>amol112: libgnomevfs2-dev ?
06:30<pabs>jez: launchpad has a "this affects me too" button for that now, less noisy :)
06:31<amol112>seeS, yes that is already installed
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06:31<amol112>i will paste my config.log in pastebin
06:31<jez>pabs: thats what i meant.
06:32<pabs>ah, I thought you meant something more annoying
06:32<seeS>amol112: cool!
06:32<amol112>seeS, http://pastebin.com/m18569c
06:32<jez>pabs: of course, implementing such a feature by email isnt possible :-)
06:33<jez>you're going to have to send an email per 'me too'
06:33<jez>;-)
06:33<seeS>why not bts 12234 metoo?
06:33<pabs>sure it is, just don't send the metoo mails to the maintainer :)
06:34<pabs>I do agree that the launchpad bts has some nice features that would be good to have in the Debian BTS
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06:35<seeS>amol112: annoyingly sparse isn't it?
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06:35<seeS>amol112: can you paste lines 6897-6936 of configure?
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07:08<locklace>he's been told a dozen times already
07:09<OdyX>true.
07:09<ml|>anyone tell an op yet?
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07:13<themill>perkebunnan: when you've fixed your irc client and can be more signal and less noise in #debian, /msg one of the ops.
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07:18<jaan>during system bootup it is showing the following message : "does not start estmaster". please guide me
07:19<jm_>who is it?
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07:20<jaan>os : lenny 5.04
07:20<jaan>os : lenny 5.0.4
07:21<jaan>the exact message is "Not starting estmaster - edit /etc/default/hyperestraier and change NO_START to be 0."
07:21<jm_>which bit of that is unclear?
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07:22<jaan>should i change the value to 0. and if i do will there be any issue ?
07:22<jm_>yes, you need to change it to 0 if you want it started at boot
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07:23<jaan>jm_ | what does it do exactly.
07:25<jm_>jaan: it starts a daemon
07:26<jaan>ok. recently i have found a bug and reported it. i was browsing through bug reports and many times it has been mentioned about reproduce.
07:27<jaan>how can i save the contents to a text file. for eg. If i remove package of liferea.
07:28<jm_>contents of?
07:30<EmleyMoor>If it's general output you want to save, look at script...
07:30<snama>hello, iam just wondering if anyone has hade any major problems with the newest update (jan 30) for lenny
07:30<snama>anyone?
07:31<snama>just making sure before upgrade
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07:31<jaan>jm_ | exactly contents of terminal
07:33<jm_>jaan: see above, you can use script command to capture it
07:35<jm_>you can also do this with screen
07:36<jaan>jm_ | can u please give me an example
07:36<jm_>jaan: script myfile.txt<enter>apt... remove liferea<enter> .... exit<enter> - you have stuff in myfile.txt
07:39<snama>anyone here using squeeze btw?
07:40<jaan>jm_ | thank u. I have experimented with it. and the result is excellent.
07:40<jm_>jaan: no worries
07:41<jaan>snama | i have upgraded to 5.0.4. i am unable to install transmission-gtk from lenny-backports and filed for a bug and they accepted.
07:41<snama>ok thanks jaan
07:41<themill>that's a problem with the backport though, not with 5.0.4
07:41<snama>i am using deluge so i guess that wont affect me any much
07:42<snama>i use backports for pidgin only
07:43<jaan>themill | yes, it is. but in case if he has installed, he might have problem. that's why i have informed him
07:47<jaan>snama | http://www.debian.org/Bugs/. visit the webiste and search for any bugs reported after jan 30
07:48<snama>thanks again jaan
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08:06<amol112>hi to all,where should require to edit in kernel to decide kernel how much to take user space and how much kernel space
08:06<jm_>search for SPLIT
08:07<jm_>it's in Processor type and features section
08:12<amol112>jm_, thanks jm_
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08:14<jm_>amol112: np
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08:44<ZakMcRofl>bit of a debian noob here: I want to install znc, preferably latest version, but the lenny stable repository is using 0.058. 0.078 is available in lenny backport and unstable. whats the correct way to do this
08:44<ZakMcRofl>(i'd prefer not to have a mixed install if I understand that term correctly)
08:45<ZakMcRofl>also i don't understand the difference between lenny unstable and lenny backport
08:45<OdyX>ZakMcRofl: read apt-preferences manpage
08:45<OdyX>ZakMcRofl: apt-pining is the way
08:45<ZakMcRofl>k i'll ready it thx
08:46<ZakMcRofl>http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html <- i'll take a look at that
08:48<OdyX>ZakMcRofl: always refer to the manpage primarily :->
08:51<ZakMcRofl>hmm on a different page i found this: Before you consider 'pinning', you might want to check if the package you want has been backported to your release.
08:51<jm_>just install it from backports using instructions on the backport page
08:53<ZakMcRofl>yes thats what i am trying now, i can always look into pinning later
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08:54<KOJIbKA>what about wine in that way?
08:55<KOJIbKA>it's too old in stable. but upgrading depends on too many packets that are not there
08:55<ZakMcRofl>thanks a lot, it worked. cool community ;)
08:55<ZakMcRofl>i better not tell you that i'm hosting a vserver or you guys would hit me :)
08:56<ZakMcRofl>but i'm a quick learner
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08:56<ZakMcRofl>i found those ways before but i wasn't clear which was is cleanest. i don't want to accidentally update my dist to something unstable
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08:57<ZakMcRofl>anyways, thanks for you time.
08:58<ZakMcRofl>oh last question: will the znc package i installed with -t lenny-backport get updated by a aptitude upgrade or dist-upgrade ?
08:58<ZakMcRofl>or do i have to take care of it manually
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09:03<jm_>it should
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09:21<themill>ZakMcRofl: depends what pinning you have set. If you follow the instructions on backports.org then it will; if you don't then it won't.
09:23<ZakMcRofl>thanks. take care
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10:31<jthomas_sb>Good day. Looking into this onto Lenny http://www.howtoforge.com/scan_viruses_with_php_clamavlib to have PHP5 scan with ClamAV; currently it has dependency issues: php5-clamavlib: Depends: libclamav2 /// clamav-freshclam Conflicts libclamav2
10:33<jthomas_sb>can I not have freshclam installed if I want this php5-clamavlib ?
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10:43<ptr>problem with my nick is that people are constantly *saying* it :)
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10:48<jmm>what prt ? :)
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11:18<KOJIbKA>suppose I want to save podcast that is playing at "Rhytmbox" at the moment. How to do that?
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11:25<noflash>KOJIbKA, I'd look at the "Rhytmbox" documentation
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11:28<KOJIbKA>looks so...
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11:39<KOJIbKA>thanks for the hint! seems like there's no need to save or convert anything. the whole piece is stored @ HOME! :)
11:40<KOJIbKA>I really enjoy it! http://www3.armadamusic.com/podcasts/podcast.php
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12:03<lkcl>hi folks although it's a bit late in the day, a group of us are going to buy a low-cost ARM 8.9in 1024x600 netbook from china, cash at the factory, on friday. if anyone else wants to join in here's the debian-arm post http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2010/02/msg00001.html email me as luke.leighton@gmail.com . frans pop is the lucky person i'm sponsoring so he's going to get debian-installer supported.
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12:06<lkcl>we have 10 debian-arm people already, which is a nice surprise. in the UK exclusive of customs+VAT it works out surprisingly at only £102 which is ... cool!
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12:12<sney`>lkcl: cool, be interesting to see if it's any good
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12:13<sidneyc>hi all, I have grub problems booting my system, is this the place to ask for help?
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12:14<adb>lkcl, oh, sweet
12:15<adb>lkcl, do you have somewhere the specifications ?
12:15<mase_>lkcl cool... some question: keyboard localization is not possible? do you have any experiences if flash(adobe) is working on such ARMs?
12:16<adb>mase_, grr flash what a shame
12:16<sney`>sidneyc: describe issue
12:16<mase_>adb right, just asking for a friend :D
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12:16<adb>heh
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12:17<mase_>adb because he wouldn't belive in my knowhow about computers any mor if he would not even be able to watch "youtube" etc.
12:17<sidneyc>After update to debian unstable system, reboot fails with "error: the symbol `grub_env_find' not found" message, and grub-rescue prompt.
12:18<sidneyc>i don't know how to fix this, grub manual is of no help
12:18<adb>mase_, let it him in his ignorance ..
12:20<sney>sidneyc, check bts for bugs relating to grub in debian unstable
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12:21<mase_>adb im very proud that he is using linux(debian) now, having absolutely no knowledge about computers
12:21<adb>ok
12:21<lkcl>sney: yes likewise. seems there's a few random brave souls willing to try anyway
12:22<sidneyc>sney, I see nothing applicable
12:22<lkcl>adb: sort-of. it's quite patchy. loovely "enlish" they speak :) what we've been able to establish is: 8.9in 1024x600 screen, QWERTY keyboard, Samsung 667mhz ARM 6410 (so it has MPEG hardware decode), 256mb RAM, 2gb NAND flash, 3x USB, 802.11 WIFI.
12:23<lkcl>also from the picture (linked from the debian-arm post) we _think_ it has a webcam
12:24<sney>that looks like a webcam alright.
12:24<lkcl>mase: it already has gOS on it (as far as we can tell), but frans is going to drop debian-arm installer onto it, and someone else is willing to help get its kernel config put in mainline.
12:24<adb>lkcl, thanks, that's really nice, and authonomy is ?
12:24<lkcl>sney: yeh.
12:24<sney>windows buttons, though?
12:24<mase_>sidneyc updated from what? cause i had such a problem some time ago on a self-wasted system; was about using grub2 with grub1-binaries or something like that
12:25<lkcl>mase: arm flash players are.... interesting :) last time i looked it was... mmm .... sort-of possible to take the Nokia N800 version of flash, extract it and sort-of... well, you get the idea :)
12:25<lkcl>sney: ooo, i hadn't noticed, that - boo, hisss
12:25<lkcl>ha ha
12:26<sidneyc>mase, last thing I remember was a failed update of a grub package (can't remember which one), and I stupidly rebooted before sorting out what was wrong
12:26<sney>winkeys just function as meta without much of a headache, but it's strange that they would be on a non-x86 computer
12:26<adb> autonomy*
12:26<lkcl>adb: what's autonomy?
12:26<adb>live on battery ?
12:27<sney>the gnash player may work on arm as well, it's not as horrible as it used to be
12:27<lkcl>sney: thinking about it.... think about it... it's probably an "adapted" netbook design. the cost of plastic casing designs is staggering. if they saved that money by reusing a case design _great_
12:27<mase_>sidneyc hah, ok, thats cool; such shit happens...
12:28<sidneyc>mase, except that now I'm stuck :/ grub docs have no usable info on "grub rescue".
12:28<sidneyc>I'm looking for someone who actually understands grub (unlike me)
12:28<mase_>sidneyc yea, gurb rescue is like nothing else than a blinking cursor
12:28<sidneyc>it has a few commands
12:29<mase_>sidneyc i don't think there is no way else than reinstalling grub
12:29<lkcl>adb: don't honestly know about battery life.
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12:29<sidneyc>ok
12:29<mase_>-no
12:29<sidneyc>silly q: how do I do that without being able to boot my system?
12:29<sney>boot with a livecd and chroot
12:29<mase_>yep
12:29<lkcl>sney: yes, gnash and swfdec seem to be getting along independently, bless 'em...
12:29<adb>lkcl, that's ok
12:30<sidneyc>are the steps involved in booting w/ live cd and chrooting documented somewhere?
12:31<mase_>sidneyc i think you have to google a lot..., but the man-pages are available in most live cds
12:31<sidneyc>the goal is to boot my system to the point where my normal root fs is
12:32<sidneyc>available right?
12:32<lkcl>sydneyc: you can also use "rescue" mode on a debian install CD
12:32<sidneyc>lkcl, what dies rescue mode do, exactly?
12:32<lkcl>sydneyc: it asks you what partition is your root fs and drops you into a chroot shell
12:32<mase_>sidneyc "super grub disk" may let you even boot from your original system and you can reinstall grub than
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12:32<sidneyc>ok
12:33<lkcl>i use it all the time on systems i screw up :)
12:33<sidneyc>is it a complication that my root fs is on raid-1?
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12:33<lkcl>shouldn't be, because that's all in the initrd and the kernel right?
12:34<sidneyc>i don't know. I don't quite understand what initrd actually /is/
12:34<mase_>except its a hardware raid...
12:34<sidneyc>nope its sw raid
12:36<sidneyc>Can I just use disk #1 of debian testing, eg http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso ??
12:36<sidneyc>(for the debian rescue mode opton)
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12:40<jez9999>hello
12:40<jez9999>Can anyone explain this?: http://pastebin.com/m67d42226
12:40<jez9999>^ that's from a fresh terminal at startup
12:40<jez9999>i can't ping anything, but if i use ifdown and ifup on eth1, it starts working
12:40<jez9999>ifconfig seems identical before and after, however
12:41<jez9999>what would make Debian fail to route through the interface before ifdown/up, and succeed after?
12:41<sidneyc>jez9999, you ping two different things
12:41<lkcl>sydneyc: it's the "initial ram disk", containing the modules and start-up instructions.
12:41<sidneyc>could that have anything
12:41<sidneyc>...to do with it?
12:42<jez9999>sidneyc: yes, the second to check it wasn't a DNS problem.
12:42<jez9999>it just wasn't routing via that interface at all.
12:42<lkcl>sydneyc: yes you can use that, that's a good choice. assuming that you previously installed amd64 debian
12:42<sidneyc>yup, will try
12:42<retrospectacus>jez9999 check your routing tables before and after ifdown/up eth1
12:42<locklace>jez9999: also paste output of "dmesg | tail -100"
12:43<jez9999>locklace: now? or before i do the ifdown/ifup?
12:43<locklace>now's fine
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12:44<jez9999>http://pastebin.com/m5894b8e5
12:45<skittle>Hello friendly debianians
12:45<skittle>recently i did dis-upgrade on lenny, and i noticed that fglrx was gone from packages
12:45<skittle>:( what happened?
12:48<locklace>jez9999: something wrong with eth1. in the first case there were 0 packets rx'd. if you can get it back in that state, run tcpdump on it and do something to cause packets to be sent to it, and check the rx stats again. output of ethtool would be good too, as well as description of what it's physically connected to and how
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12:49<jez9999>hmm.
12:49<jez9999>the rx stats?
12:49<jez9999>where are they
12:50<locklace>in the ifconfig output
12:50<raylu>how do i get xscreensaver to run on startup?
12:51<raylu>(i'm using gnome)
12:51<jez9999>what ethtool output do you want
12:51<mase_>raylu really xscreensaver or just "blank"?
12:51<jez9999>theres a ton of commandline switches
12:51<locklace>jez9999: "ethtool eth1"
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12:52<jez9999>ah k
12:52<raylu>mase_: really xscreensaver
12:52<locklace>but more interested in the results of tcpdump when it's in the bad state
12:52<skittle>why is fglrx gone from testing? :o :(
12:52<jez9999>i could connect it to my other pc and try to ping it. trouble is then its config is going to be wrong
12:53<jez9999>or would just pinging out again work
12:53<locklace>you can ping the broadcast address or just change the address/mask with ifconfig
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12:54<raylu>hm, i'm adding "xscreensaver -nosplash" to my gnome startup programs. it should do the trick
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12:56<jez9999>ping the broadcast address.... from my other machine?
12:56<jez9999>that's connected to eth0
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12:58<jez9999>???
12:58<jez9999>or from the same machine?
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13:02<skittle>should I just use radeonhd package instead?
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13:05<locklace>jez9999: use your imagination. the point is to generate packets destined to and guaranteed to be received on eth1 when it's in the bad state, and see whether they show up on rx stats / tcpdump
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13:06<jez9999>i'll give it a try.
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13:12<sidneyc>hi all, back with my grub problem
13:12<sidneyc>I am now chrooted into my /dev/md0 root fs
13:12<sidneyc>trying to complete install of "grub-pc" package that was broken
13:12<sidneyc>"apt-get install grub-pc" fails
13:13<sidneyc>message: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem."
13:13<sidneyc>...
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13:13<jez9999>locklace: interesting
13:13<sidneyc>I have no idea what I should try next
13:13<skittle>speaking of grub, it automagically found my windows 7 boot partition and added it to its list
13:13<jez9999>i switch the ethernet cables and /etc/network/interfaces definitions around, and i get the same phenomenon on eth0.
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13:14<jez9999>i can ping eth1 ok from the other machine
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13:14<jez9999>but i cant connect to the internet on eth0 until i ifdown/ifup it
13:14<skittle>i wasnt aware that grub would poke around in an unmounted filesystem :|
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13:15<locklace>jez9999: redo the same test but instead of pinging something on the internet, just ping the address on the other end of the link itself (router or whatever it is)
13:16<jez9999>the router's in bridge mode
13:16<jez9999>it's an ADSL router
13:16<locklace>ok. then just ping the gateway address
13:16<jez9999>maybe my interfaces file is wrong
13:16<jez9999>http://pastebin.com/m332549d
13:16<jez9999>anything obvious there?
13:17<craigevil>sidneyc: take a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23567437
13:18<locklace>jez9999: that "address" and "gateway" are the same is obviously wrong
13:18<jez9999>ah
13:18<jez9999>mind you that's the internal one
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13:19<locklace>jez9999: also you seem to have mistyped an "auto" as "auth"
13:19<jez9999>should i remove that gateway line?
13:19<jez9999>oh yeah lol
13:19<xente>what is the best package to install to get the gjc compiler on your machine?
13:19<sidneyc>craigevil, thanks -- looks like my bug
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13:20<locklace>jez9999: might as well, it's not doing anything for you
13:20<craigevil>sidneyc: if you are running sid try downgrading to the version of grub-pc in testing
13:21<jez9999>ok i'll try pinging the gateway in the broken state
13:21<sidneyc>will do
13:21<vrglcsm>jez9999, line 9 and 21: auto or auth, which one is wrong?
13:21<jez9999>yeah i think auth is wrong
13:21<jez9999>i've changed it
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13:22<vrglcsm>erm, didn't read before hitting enter. :">
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13:26<jez9999>heh
13:26<jez9999>fixing the interfaces file made it just work
13:26<jez9999>:-)
13:26<jez9999>interesting
13:26<@weasel>"as soon as you get it right it works"
13:27<craigevil>sidneyc: if you run sid it helps to keep and eye on the sidux forum Upgrade warnings, as well as having apt-listbugs installed
13:27<cahoot>weasel: a motto for debian?
13:28<jez9999>as soon as you code it yourself it works
13:28<cahoot>right
13:29<jez9999>is System | Administration | Add/Remove Applications some kind of 'baby' package manager?
13:29<jez9999>it seems to have overlap with Synaptic
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13:48<astronut>is there a way to encrypt the wpa-password field in /e/n/interfaces when using wpa_supplicant in slave mode?
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13:53<lmc>hi, everybody. How can I remove a partially installed package? I've tried the --force-remove but the option is not there anymore...
13:55<astronut>lmc: what tool are you using?
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13:56<lmc>dpkg -- it's a package I've downloaded myself, astronut
13:56<dpkg>lmc: bugger all, i dunno
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13:58<astronut>lmc: what happens if you try dpkg --purge <package_name>
13:59<lmc>Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
14:01<astronut>ok, so try that
14:02<lmc>astronut, I've done that already.
14:02<lmc>/var/lib/dpkg/info/xmind.postrm: line 4: update-mime-database: command not found / dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
14:04<astronut>this is why you should be careful downloading random packages from the internet
14:04<jez9999>hi all - is System | Administration | Add/Remove Applications some kind of 'baby' package manager?
14:04<jez9999>it seems to have overlap with Synaptic
14:04<lmc>astronut, that's good advice. Lucky me I have you guys around to save my skin. ;)
14:05<astronut>jez9999: yes
14:05<astronut>"simpler but less capable"
14:05<jez9999>so you have that, synaptic, aptitude, and apt-get
14:05<jez9999>lol
14:05<astronut>lmc: install shared-mime-info
14:05<jez9999>no wonder i was a bit confused
14:05<astronut>that should let you fix it
14:05<lmc>astronut, so I was missing pre-requisites. How can I use dpkg to query for a package's pre-reqs before installing it?
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14:06<ml|>!gdebi
14:06<dpkg>well, gdebi is a tool to install manually downloaded .deb packages. It is useful as it automatically resolves dependencies for you. aptitude install gdebi or aptitude install gdebi-kde. And/or aptitude install gdebi-core for the command-line utility. https://launchpad.net/gdebi
14:06<lmc>astronut, almost. I can't do anything now, it seems:
14:06<lmc>E: I wasn't able to locate file for the xmind package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
14:07<lmc>ok, solved by putting xmind in hold for now.
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14:10<lmc>astronut, urgh. Or I thought so. I can't generate a package list to install, even putting xmind on "hold" state. Should I try to donwload the shared-mime-info package by hand?
14:12<lmc>astronut, thank you for your help, downloading and manually installing shared-mime-info solved the problem.
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14:14<astronut>you probably want apt-get -f install at some point
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14:22<lmc>astronut, I've managed to install without force, by getting the package by hand and commanding dpkg to install it. Thank you for your help.
14:22<astronut>lmc: -f is "fix" not "force" for apt-get
14:22<astronut>it'll install any missing dependencies
14:23<lmc>astronut, ops... :)
14:23<astronut>on your system
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14:27<adb>lkcl, may i pm you ? it's about arm-lappy , thanks
14:27<lkcl>yep sure
14:27<lkcl>adb: sure
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14:39<namektran>Hello
14:40<namektran>can somebody help me.When i try to update my system its says dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 (--configure):
14:40<namektran> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
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14:43<vrglcsm>i intend to install sid using debootstrap onto aes-xts encrypted root. any recommendations? i'm still googling but some hints, man pages and/or how to examples, would be great.
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14:44<sidneyc>at all: thanks for the help earlier tonight, my debian system is bootable once more. See you all later, bye
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15:57<gat>is one way to avoid reboots due to things like updates working within a vserver, so instead of the hardware rebooting, it would be the vserver?
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15:59<locklace>gat: why don't you tell us what you're trying to accomplish
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16:02<gat>locklace: i am setting up a quadcore server box to be used as a irc bouncer, media server, and occasionally a web server. i installed the default guided encrypted LVM setup from a debian lenny 5.0.3 amd64 dvd. i won't be around the box except once every two weeks or so, and so i'd like to avoid any unnecessary reboots, since when it reboots it won't continue booting unless the encrypted password is entered
16:03<gat>i thought of working within vserver/openvz as a way to fix this
16:05<locklace>a vs/vm is an option, sure
16:05<locklace>assuming you really need all that "all my filesystems are crypto" junk
16:05<gat>haha, i'm pretty sure i do
16:06<gat>i like the vs idea since it's much less of a performance hit, plus i only plan to use debian
16:08<gat>so what reboots will i not be able to avoid? i get say kernel updates and updates to vserver, but what others?
16:10<locklace>generally a kernel update should be the only thing that really needs a reboot, and there are ways of even avoiding that these days
16:10<gat>yeah i still need to read into ksplice
16:11<gat>locklace: have you heard of updating vserver without rebooting?
16:11<gat>oh also is in terms of debian, i get a sense that vserver over openvz is preferred, but is that stated or written anywhere?
16:13<sdk>Still can't figure out how to do this. I want to output a logfile to a port, sort of like a stream. I tried nc, but apparently I need nc to pick up the stream on the other system. So, this may give a better idea of what I'd like.. tail -f /var/log/syslog | nc -l 4444 ANy ideas?
16:14<fnmueller>gat: why don't you just deactivate the password question on reboot?
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16:15<gat>fnmueller: sort of defeats the point of the encryption. the protection does hinge on the machine getting turned off, but the server is powerful enough and not being used for that much so i won't notice a speed hit and i like some protection over no protection.
16:16<fnmueller>gat: what does that have to do with speed and defeat of encryption?
16:17<gat>oh on "reboot", not "boot". i misread.
16:17<gat>that is an interesting idea
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16:18<fnmueller>well, boot /reboot, is the same
16:19<fnmueller>forget my idea
16:19<fnmueller>I misread your post
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16:19<fnmueller>I did not think "full encryption"
16:19<gat>ah ok
16:21<BurdWork>hello Debian land! We're running etch still and this month when the apache logs were rotated we noticed that the access log file was HUGE like 100MB.. after some checking it appears that it is being filled with (internal dummy connection) logs, thousands and thousands.. I've seen some workarounds on the net but none totally fix this issue.. I'm wondering if anyone has any knowledge of this change that happened last month i am assuming during an update
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16:32<vrglcsm>gat, every time the password is needed, unless you're using key files(?), which _does_ defeat the point of encryption if the system is not properly secured and monitored or if you plan to be the only one that can enter the password. you might want, or not, to setup a second password for emergencies and give it to someone else you trust in case something happens and you can't enter the main password yourself. you can also change this 2nd password right aft
16:32<vrglcsm>er the system is up and you can login into it; if you don't mind, what cipher you used?
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16:35<gat>vrglcsm: i did the debian lenny guided install and selected 'encrypted lvm'. i'm pretty sure it uses AES for the encryption but i'm not sure about the hash
16:36<gat>i think sha256
16:36<vrglcsm>then is aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 if wasn't changed...
16:37<gat>that sounds about right
16:38*vrglcsm wish there was a simple way to use aes-xts-plain
16:39<gat>vrglcsm: why?
16:40<vrglcsm>because is new and shiny? lol
16:40<gat>ah heh
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16:41<locklace>!sns
16:41<dpkg>i guess sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shit Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition.
16:41<vrglcsm>i don't know to much about differences but it seems to be safer. openbsd implemented it as defacto, and on ubuntu is quite easy to use it with a few hacks.
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16:43<gat>i'm googling around about it, sounds interesting
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16:47<vrglcsm>on the other hand is not that new, but became standard only recently. i'v used it on ubuntu 8.04, gnewsense deltah and openbsd 4.4 and i think fedora has it too...
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16:50<gat>the tradeoff i see between using newer vs older and more widely used crypto is the older stuff maybe targeted a lot more since it's so widely used, but it's extremely well-tested.
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17:00*vrglcsm just read that aes-xts-benbi might be shiny too
17:01<a30s37>Hi! I am going to install Oracle 11g on Debian Lenny.
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17:13<sdk>does this work: cat 'tail -f somefile' > otherfile I would like to output the results of the tail and append them to another file that is already present.
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17:14<meowcats>what happened to the fglrx package in testing? it suddenly just dissapeared
17:14<sdk>meowcats: Heh, it failed?
17:14<meowcats>no, its not in the repos
17:14<sdk>meowcats: Sorry, bad joke.
17:15<edhunter>sdk: why not tail -f somefile >> otherfile ?
17:15<sdk>edhunter: because that file is already present and is being updated by another process.. I"m trying to cat together two log files for presentation to a web server..
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17:16<meowcats>fglrx is in the unstable repo still...
17:16<sdk>and I get the impression that cat is more 'forgiving', i.e. if there's an access conflict, I'm hoping cat will not completely blow up.
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17:16<edhunter>well cat 'tail -f somefile' wont do anything and > wont append but overwrite
17:17<sdk>edhunter: ok, fair enough. is >> for append then?
17:17<meowcats>its even in the stable repo as well :|
17:17<sdk>Bah, I can find that in man bash.
17:17<sdk>no need to answer.
17:18<sdk>but for the cat 'xxx', I could use help.
17:18<sdk>if you would.
17:18<gat>touch $file && cat foo >> $file
17:18<edhunter>sdk: >> is or append. still cat 'tail -f somefile' wont do anything. just redirect stdout from tail -f somefile to the other file
17:19<edhunter>if you insist on cat you could cat somefile | tail and then redirect
17:19<edhunter>s/or/for
17:19<sdk>gat: I need it to be an ongoing process. as in tail -f
17:19<gat>sdk: i think dd is used for that in some cases
17:20<gat>for example, this is currently running on my system: /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg
17:20<gat>came with the distro so i'm not entirely sure what it's doing, but it seems like what you want
17:21<meowcats>http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/fglrx-driver
17:21<meowcats>wtf???
17:21<bja>msg dpkg etch->lenny
17:22<edhunter>meowcats: perhaps it is not compatible with Xorg/kernel version in testing?
17:22<meowcats>edhunter it was available and installed last week :|
17:23<sdk>gat: cool, I'll pursue checking that out. Many thanks.
17:23<edhunter>meowcats: perhaps Xorg/kernel got updated this week ;) in any case fglrx is known to lack behind current development and not to work with never versions (at least when those first come out) of Xorg/kernel..
17:24<meowcats>:( i wonder if radeonhd would be a viable alternative?
17:25<locklace>!why is fglrx-driver not in testing
17:25<dpkg>fglrx-driver is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=fglrx-driver
17:25<edhunter>meowcats: probably not. i would try radeon. as far as i know in sid it has basic 3d for all cards (perhaps the newer ones need some special tweaking)
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17:26<meowcats>radeon supports R700?
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17:27<edhunter>meowcats: http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon
17:27<meowcats>thanks
17:27<locklace>also see http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/fglrx-driver.html
17:29<meowcats>edhunter i have R770, so i will try out radeonhd ;)
17:29<meowcats>locklace thanks : "fglrx-driver REMOVED from testing (Britney)"
17:29<meowcats>:)
17:29<edhunter>http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
17:30<meowcats>doesnt seem that radeonhd fully supports 3d for r700, but thats ok
17:30<meowcats>i just want xv
17:30<sdk>how different is dash from bash from a scripting standpoint?
17:31<locklace>sdk: no different, other than running faster, as long as you use posix standard sh syntax
17:31<sdk>locklace: beaut. Many thanks.
17:32<sdk>Am headed out tonight ot get the BASH cookbook, and dinna want to spend money wrongfully.
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17:33<locklace>i don't understand why anyone puts any real effort into writing scripts in bash
17:33<sdk>locklace: you would recommend perl or some other lang?
17:33<gat>bash is basically what distros use
17:33<meowcats>sdk python or perl
17:33<locklace>you should either write them in plain sh, if you need maximum unix portability and it does what you need, or use an actual language
17:33<locklace>gat: that's because there are a lot of lame distros
17:34<gat>locklace: eh well for whatever reason it's somewhat of a de facto standard. in terms of mucking around with the internals of top distros, bash is good to be familiar with
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17:34<simonrvn>ffs
17:34<gat>it is sort of strange that no one has tried to push replacing it with perl / python
17:34<sdk>locklace: But if I need to get something done quickly, don't have the leisure to learn an entire language structure and portability is not a big issue, is there something superior to bash?
17:34<locklace>sdk: here's a good tutorial for sh: http://ooblick.com/text/sh/
17:35<sdk>locklace: beaut, will check that out.
17:35<locklace>gat: i know exactly why it's used frequently in linux distros, and the reasons suck
17:35<gat>is one of the reasons people already know it?
17:36<locklace>sdk: why don't you start by explaining the kinds of tasks you want to be able to accomplish
17:36<gat>or also it relies on a lot of existing tools already present in distros, so it has that semi unix philosophy going on
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17:38<meowcats>cool debian is ports to mips!
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17:38<locklace>gat: the reasons are mainly historical, because of the use of the gnu packages for all the userland tools. most distros just blindly imported everything gnu because it's gnu so it must be great, and because most of the people involved either had gpl fetishes or weren't educated enough to be aware of alternatives
17:38<sdk>locklace: Ok, like I posted earlier, in this case I want to redirect a log file to a TCP port so my web developer can build a page that will allow the mgmt to view teh log files of the servers while I am on vacation. For starters.
17:39<sdk>!license war
17:39<sdk>:)
17:39<locklace>gat: created a lot of problems, the main one being an entire generation of linux kids mistaking the gnu tools for a unix standard
17:39<locklace>so you have all these lame #!/bin/bash scripts for things that should be able to run on any unix system
17:39<gat>hmm actually that GPL point is pretty interesting. not really any other popular scripting languages are under the GPL
17:40<locklace>or worse, #!/bin/sh scripts with bash-specific code
17:40<sdk>Makes sense... continue.
17:41<locklace>debian finally switched the default sh to dash because it's so much more efficient for processing standard sh scripts, and they're still trying to get rid of the lingering remnants of a legacy of bashisms in packages
17:42<gat>is ubuntu following suit?
17:42<locklace>they actually did it earlier
17:43<locklace>sdk: netcat solves that particular problem, you don't even need a script
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17:43<sdk>locklace: I tried that, but it seems I need another nc running on the other end to get the stream..
17:43<locklace>sdk: "nc -l -p 5555 < logfile" on server, then "nc server 5555" on the other side
17:43<sdk>unless I"m doing something completely off base..
17:44<locklace>or use anything else on the other side you want that connects to and reads from port 5555 on server
17:44<gat>nc is on all major platforms
17:45<sdk>gat: yep, just saw that.
17:45<sdk>locklace: lemme try that output string again, mayhap I was just doing something incorrectly..
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17:47<sdk>Frig.. going to miss my train.. Grr.. just when I start getting some help.. Feh.
17:47<sdk>locklace: gat: Many thanks, for sure. bbitm.
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17:48<vrglcsm>i wanna install sid using debootstrap onto aes-xts encrypted root. any recommendations? i'm still googling but some hints, man pages and/or how to examples, would be great.
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17:59<gat>vrglcsm: http://www.finnie.org/2009/07/26/howto-encrypt-an-existing-debian-installation/ and http://johnleach.co.uk/words/archives/2006/12/06/245/encrypted-partitions-with-ubuntudebian and http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS_for_dm-crypt
18:00<vrglcsm>gat, thanks :)
18:00<gat>http://osdir.com/ml/linux.kernel.device-mapper.dm-crypt/2008-02/msg00080.html
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18:00<gat>vrglcsm: np. had those up from earlier when i was trying to find out what debian uses
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18:41<jesperj>From virtualbox.org : "Mixed installations (e.g. Debian/Lenny ships an AMD64 kernel with 32-bit packages) are not supported. To install VirtualBox anyway you need to setup a 64-bit chroot environment." < I have trouble running virtualbox and installing Debian AMD64 in virtualbox as debianinstaller says it is not a 64bit cpu.
18:44<jesperj>virtualbox only detects an i686 cpu... Is it true as stated on virtualbox.org's webpage that AMD64 comes with a kernel with 32-bit packages?
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18:51<vrglcsm>jesperj, what cpu do you have?
18:52<jesperj>vrglcsm, intel core2duo e6600
18:53<jesperj>ouch
18:53<jesperj>I just found "I purchased an ASUS P5B Deluxe motherboard based on overclocking recommendations from this website, but when I installed the system and tried running an app requiring virtualization, it said the system didn't support it. I had thought that as long as the CPU supported it, that would be all I needed. Apparently, the BIOS must also be configured to support this which the ASUS P5B boards with the P965 chipset do not. The onl
18:53<jesperj>y one I could find that does support it is a Q965 chipset which is the ASUS P5B-VM DO motherboard which a micro ATX form factor."
18:55<jesperj>I have a P5B Deluxe... I guess my MB isn't able to use my CPU's VT-x feature
18:55<jesperj>Although this is getting a bit too far offtopic.
18:56<jesperj>I came in here since I first wanted to get some answers about the statement on the virtualbox site about AMD64 shipping with default kernel with 32-bit packages. is this correct?
18:57<locklace>mainboard vendors that disable vt in the bios are really fucking irritating
18:58<locklace>in some cases you can reflash the bios to flip the bit you need
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18:59<jesperj>locklace, yeah. Well I just found out that VT-x is also called "Vanderpool Technology", and I do have an option for that in my BIOS \o/
19:00<locklace>!win jesperj
19:00<dpkg>Congratulations, jesperj! You have won the US presidency!
19:00<jesperj>should I smile or cry?
19:00<jesperj>but thanks
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19:01<stuckey>Hi
19:01<jesperj>but what about the statement that AMD64 ships with default kernel with 32-bit packages? shouldn't a 64-bit OS have 64-bit packages?
19:02<jesperj>hi stuckey
19:02<vrglcsm>using 32-bit aplications on an x64 cpu is possible. a mixture might be the case in some situations i think. though don't mind me, i'm using x32...
19:03<stuckey>I'm trying to find any information that will aid me in purchasing a scanner. I've looked at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html but a lot of those devices are pretty old, and I'd like to get something newer/nicer. Does anyone know where I can find out which devices are the newest/have the best features and are fully supported on Linux?
19:06<locklace>jesperj: what, debian? amd64 packages are 64-bit binaries, or at least should be
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19:06<stuckey>Or perhaps which mailing list I could post to where someone might know?
19:07<vrglcsm>jesperj, what kernel do you use?
19:07<themill>jesperj: the mixed system referred to is where you install an amd64 kernel on your i386 debian installation.
19:07<jesperj>locklace, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads . I'm not making a statement saying anything is one way or the other, I am asking how it really is since that site claims what it does at the top of the page
19:08<jesperj>themill, oooh! now I get it. thanks
19:09<jesperj>vrglcsm, 2.6.26-2-amd64
19:10<jesperj>Well I think that got cleared up now then :)
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19:14<themill>jesperj: does "dpkg --print-architecture" also say amd64?
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19:24<vrglcsm>mkfs.ext4 worked but mount says: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'. any idea how to fix this?
19:25<bja>Is there a way to get all the factoids of dpkg on a single query, like "select * from database;"?
19:25<gnufan>time to reinstall my desktop box. Currently it is running Lenny, but it has been upgraded from Woody or Sarge, and has had a colourful life, and I need a bigger root partition and to get rid of the iffy fakeraid and use software mirroring. Running a backup of everything. Needs a little planning. Wondering if I should brave testing again - use to get me in trouble with my better half as it would reinstall the printer software and setting it up was painful. Now it
19:25<themill>dpkg: tell bja about factoids
19:26<gnufan>is there a way to download them straight to my brain ? :)
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19:27<bja>themill: thanks
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19:30<simonrvn>bja: just a bot
19:31<gnufan>vrglcsm: Are you running Squeeze?
19:34<jesperj>themill, yep
19:34<themill>jesperj: excellent. So you don't have a mixed system as described on that page then.
19:35<jesperj>themill, I probably just need to enable "Vanderpool Technology" in BIOS and it will work since I read that virtualbox uses VT-x to detect 64bit cpu
19:35<jesperj>themill, *nods* :-)
19:35<gnufan>dpkg: tell vrglcsm about ext4
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19:39<klh>hi, is there a way to know which packages depends on one package please ? Not to be confused with : what are the dependencies of a package
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19:39<themill>klh: apt-cache rdepends packagename, or a funky aptitude search can do it. /msg dpkg aptitude search
19:40<klh>ok, thx themill
19:40<vrglcsm>gnufan, thanks for the info.
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19:44<gnufan>exit
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19:46<stuckey>Can anyone tell me of a good program to use to browse newsgroups?
19:46<petemc>klibido works
19:46<petemc>tho i used it mostly for binaries, which may not be what you're doing
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19:47<stuckey>I was going to use it for a linux newsgroup, like reading/writing to it
19:49<stuckey>I thought dpkg might recommend something but it didn't
19:50<bja>simonrvn: a fast query of all dpkg factoids compared to all the factoids translated can give you the differences between translated factoids and those that are not :)
19:50<bja>!bot
19:50<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
19:53<themill>bja: translated?
19:53<bja>:)
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19:57<||bass>anyone have an eta on when the replacement for the (expired) unofficial.debian-maintainers.org repo gpg key is going to be posted?
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20:10<stuckey>If I send a message to lists.debian.org am I automatically subscribed to that message, i.e., will I get replies to it?
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20:40<phorce1>stuckey: to the mailing list? No. You'd have to manually subscribe to the list you want and you'd get ALL messages addressed to that list. If you don't want to subscribe you can put a notice at the top of your message stating that you are not subscribed and requesting that people who reply should Cc: you. Some people won't do that so you can also read the archives to see if people have replied.
20:40<stuckey>phorce1: thanks
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20:54<twb>What version of moinmoin does wiki.d.o run?
20:55<stuckey>phorce1: but you can subscribe to individual bugs right?
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20:58<bja>simonrvn: ravenbird is awall
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21:04<twb>stuckey: "bts subscribe NNNNNN"
21:04<twb>stuckey: (i.e. yes)
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22:04<phorce1>stuckey: sorry, was afk. Yes, you can subscribe to individual bugs and get notices
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22:28<mercutio22>doods, is it possible to have python highlighting inside vim in debian?
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22:38<Nemoder>mercutio22: works for me. did you enter 'syntax on' ?
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23:22<simonrvn>awall?
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23:30<firefox>so... the whole ssh into my friends laptop anywhere problem... I cant figure out the while upnp open the non-standard ssh port thingy... I guess what I can do is have his system vpn to mine and then ssh into it..
23:32<mercutio22>Nemoder: no. How should I do that? In a config file?
23:32<firefox>unless some one knows better? I just converted him to linux.. and I wanted to be able to admin his comp.. right now he only gets internet in a coffee shop, which leads to problems. and I don't feel like driving 40min everytime his system has a problem lol.
23:33<Nemoder>you can set it in your .vimrc, you can just type it as a command inside vim to test it though
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23:38<Nemoder>firefox: vpn sounds like a good of a solution as any
23:39<locsmif>Is there a tool that can monitor disk access in real time, similar to "Filemon" for windows?
23:39<locsmif>I get the feeling KDE or some other process is constantly accessing my hdd, and it's annoying.
23:41<Nemoder>locsmif: i don't know about filemon but lsof is a very basic util to see open files
23:42<locsmif>Nemoder: I know lsof but I need something more advanced, like Filemon. Once, there even used to be a Filemon for Linux, but not anymore. The author of Filemon is now a lead kernel dev at M$
23:43<sney`>fight the power and all that
23:44<locsmif>He got assimilated
23:46<locsmif>Hmmm, atop seems promising, although not exactly what I want
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23:52<amol112>hi to all, to suspend i gave command echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
23:52<locsmif>Hmmm, no, not what I want, although a nice tool
23:52<amol112>but after mouse click also system is not getting resume
23:53<amol112>how to resume from suspend state>?
23:53<amol112>or i am doing wrong while suspending?
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23:55<sney`>amol112: mouse click usually isn't enough, usually you need to hit the keyboard or the power button
23:55<jaan>hi all. good morning. just now by mistake i issued the command rm -rf /home. but quickly i realised and press ctrl+d.
23:55<amol112>sney, i did both hitting keyboard as well power button but it not resumed
23:55<jaan>I have installed safe-rm and sleuthkit. i have rebooted the system more than 5 times. is there any chance of recovery of data ?
23:56<amol112>echo -n mem > sys/power/state is correct way to suspend?
23:58<jaan>how do i force fsck to check everytime i boot the system ? is it safe to check file integrity for every boot ? how does debian store and retrieve data ?
23:58<sney`>amol112: the best way to protect your data is to do backups. any post-rm recovery is up in the air.
23:58<twb>jaan: put "touch /forcefsck" in /etc/rc.local
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