| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 09 00:00:18 2010 |
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| 00:12 | <kop> | I thought that 'aptitude -t lenny-backports search "~i"' or 'aptitude search "~i~Alenny-backports"' would find me what's installed from backports, but this does not work. :-( |
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| 00:14 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: bpo list |
| 00:14 | <dpkg> | To get a list of all the packages you have installed from backports.org: aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(backports.org))' -F'%100p'. Also ask me about <which repo>. |
| 00:14 | <kop> | gsimmons: Thanks. I'd _just_ now discovered that factoid! |
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| 00:34 | <kop> | It seems the right approach is to use 'aptitude install foo/stable' on each package installed from bpo. The wacky thing is that foo/lenny won't work. It's gotta be foo/stable. Is this an aptitude bug? |
| 00:35 | <kop> | And, you've got to search for everything installed from bpo because dependences won't be downgraded/re-installed automatically. |
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| 00:55 | <KOJIbKA> | hello! I can't share a folder using xfce4,4 in Lenny |
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| 00:57 | <Nemoder> | KOJIbKA: share to what? |
| 01:00 | <KOJIbKA> | samba resources |
| 01:00 | <Nemoder> | xfce/thunar doesn't support samba |
| 01:00 | <KOJIbKA> | should I use nautilus instead? |
| 01:00 | <Nemoder> | you might try something like smbnetfs to map shares to folders |
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| 01:02 | <KOJIbKA> | Initially I set everything to run properely at my laptop that runs GNOME. Now I have a problem to set desktop |
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| 01:05 | <gsimmons> | kop: Possibly bug #547707. |
| 01:05 | <magyar> | /dev/sda6 : start= 16177518, size= 5301387, Id=fd << what is the size on this sector? |
| 01:05 | <magyar> | it's an sfdisk output |
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| 01:06 | <magyar> | s/sector/partition |
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| 01:07 | <jm_> | magyar: ~2.6G |
| 01:08 | <magyar> | jm_: how did you get that? |
| 01:08 | <jm_> | or 2.5 to be more precise |
| 01:08 | <jm_> | magyar: sector size is 512bytes (unless you have a very rare new drive that can have 4096) |
| 01:09 | <magyar> | 5301387 X 512 |
| 01:09 | <jm_> | right |
| 01:09 | <magyar> | close enough, thanks jm_ |
| 01:10 | <jm_> | np |
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| 01:33 | <mib_lw4zo56yq9g2> | hola |
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| 01:34 | <mib_lw4zo56yq9g2> | holaa |
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| 01:35 | <mib_lw4zo56yq9g2> | heeeeeeeeeey |
| 01:37 | <seeS> | uh huh |
| 01:37 | <mmj638> | afternoon |
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| 01:54 | <KingKong2009> | Hello |
| 01:55 | <mmj638> | afternoon |
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| 03:19 | <dodecahedron> | OpenBSD blackhole.earthlink.net 4.6 ejeet2#5 i386 |
| 03:19 | <jmm> | hi. |
| 03:19 | <dodecahedron> | damn dirty communist hippies using a shitty inferior OS |
| 03:19 | <dodecahedron> | haha |
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| 03:19 | <simonrvn> | gsimmons: hey, thanks for adding those other factoids to my bot. much appreciated. |
| 03:20 | <gsimmons> | simonrvn: np |
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| 03:48 | <aurelien_> | hi, im looking for someone who can help me on subversion server |
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| 03:49 | <Sam__> | help me, oh debian irc channel |
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| 03:50 | <jmm> | hi sam. |
| 03:50 | <Sam__> | alright so i just installed debian |
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| 03:50 | <aurelien_> | anyone knows something about subversion? :( |
| 03:50 | <mib_4sx5etk9m2ec> | good |
| 03:50 | <Sam__> | but i dont know how i can get it to recognize my wireless usb adaptor |
| 03:51 | <Sam__> | hence, i can not go on the interwebs with it |
| 03:51 | <jmm> | aurelien_: better ask your question. |
| 03:51 | <jmm> | !wireless |
| 03:51 | <dpkg> | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>, <wimax>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 03:53 | <aurelien_> | i'm using subversion with a subclipse client on WinXP, my sub server is on Debian. I've got problems with repository location, I can't identify me |
| 03:53 | <babilen> | aurelien_: I guess you'll have more luck on #subversion @ irc.freenode.net - But ask your question. It might be that we are able to help you too, but we can't do that if we don't know what your problem is. |
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| 03:55 | <Sam__> | ive got another quick question, is it recommended to get some kind of firewall for my debian or AV |
| 03:55 | <babilen> | aurelien_: Can you elaborate on that? Provide relevant output and logfile excerpts on a paste site such as http://paste.debian.net |
| 03:55 | <Sam__> | if yes, what is a good, stable easy to use one? |
| 03:56 | <aurelien_> | babilen, im sorry if my english is bad, im french, i'll try to explain my problem better |
| 03:56 | <jmm> | Sam__: none of those is mandatory. |
| 03:56 | <jmm> | Sam__: the firewall maybe a good idea, but the AV is useless. |
| 03:56 | <Sam__> | so whats a good firewall |
| 03:56 | <mib_4sx5etk9m2ec> | Sam__, firestarter is an easy to use firewall |
| 03:56 | <Sam__> | ty bro |
| 03:56 | <jmm> | linux kernel's firewall. netfilter. |
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| 03:57 | <babilen> | Sam__: It is much saver to disable all daemons that have open ports. 'netstat -anp' and 'nmap 127.0.0.1' will tell you which daemons are listening .. |
| 03:57 | <Sam__> | ok |
| 03:58 | <babilen> | aurelien_: Just provide some output or the exact error you are getting. There is also a french channel ... |
| 03:58 | <babilen> | !tell aurelien_ -about fr |
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| 03:58 | <aurelien_> | on eclipse I need to login to indicate the repository location. I saved user and password in /myproject/conf/passwd but when I try to login, it tells me "Authorization failed" |
| 04:00 | <babilen> | aurelien_: Do you get any applicable logs on your server? How do you serve the repository? Have you checked, that the password+username you have provided matches the expected values? Change your credentials and try again ... |
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| 04:01 | <aurelien_> | i dont know where are subversion logs |
| 04:01 | <aurelien_> | (im studient) |
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| 04:02 | <samafk> | can you get basically all of the open source software that ubuntu uses with debian |
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| 04:02 | <babilen> | aurelien_: You mean you don't have access to the server on which the subversion repository is hosted? |
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| 04:03 | <aurelien_> | no, i've got access to the server, I've got 2virtual machines in lan |
| 04:03 | <aurelien_> | 1debian server and 1xp client |
| 04:03 | <babilen> | samafk: The intersection is large ... |
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| 04:04 | <samafk> | what does that mean babilen |
| 04:04 | <babilen> | samafk: It means that there might be some packages on Ubuntu that are not available on Debian and vice versa |
| 04:05 | <samafk> | like i would be able to get gimp and openoffice, correct? |
| 04:05 | <samafk> | since they are pretty widely used |
| 04:05 | <Nemoder> | samafk: yes, though versions may be different |
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| 04:07 | <babilen> | !pdo |
| 04:07 | <dpkg> | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 04:07 | <babilen> | samafk: ^^^ have a look |
| 04:08 | <samafk> | thanks for the help guys |
| 04:08 | <babilen> | samafk: come back if you run into problems when you install debian .. |
| 04:08 | <samafk> | ive already installed debian? |
| 04:09 | <babilen> | ah, great |
| 04:10 | <samafk> | so my usb adaptor came with an install cd and it says linux compatible |
| 04:10 | <samafk> | should i try the cd |
| 04:10 | <gsimmons> | samafk: What USB adapter (brand, model) do you have? |
| 04:10 | <samafk> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320040&cm_re=wireless_usb_adaptor_asus-_-33-320-040-_-Product |
| 04:11 | <samafk> | its a pretty sturdy piece of technology, worked fine on previous OS |
| 04:11 | <aurelien_> | thanks anyway for the help, I'll try to get some help by french people because its little bit hard for me here :) |
| 04:11 | <gsimmons> | samafk: Can you provide the device's USB ID? (lsusb) |
| 04:11 | <babilen> | aurelien_: good luck! |
| 04:11 | <samafk> | debian does not even recognize the device |
| 04:12 | <aurelien_> | thank you babilen |
| 04:12 | <samafk> | however it does recognize normal USB's |
| 04:15 | <aurelien_> | i've got another question, how can i create user with ssh? |
| 04:16 | <samafk> | so gsimmons, any ideas?> |
| 04:16 | <gsimmons> | samafk: We could use the USB-ID detail. Connect the device and run the lsusb command in a console. |
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| 04:24 | <samafk> | so like |
| 04:24 | <samafk> | do i need to instal drivers to debian |
| 04:24 | <samafk> | or is it all like auto configure |
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| 04:30 | <gsimmons> | samafk: A driver for your device (rt2870sta, assuming it is Ralink RT2870/RT3070-based) is available in the Linux kernel as of 2.6.29. If you have installed Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 ("Lenny"), you are required to upgrade your kernel for device support. You can optionally use the vendor-supplied driver, but it is not supported here. |
| 04:31 | <samafk> | how do i upgrade if i can not internet |
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| 04:31 | <samafk> | i got like version 5.04 or something its the newest one |
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| 04:34 | <gsimmons> | samafk: That's a problem you will have to solve (e.g. temporarily use an Ethernet connection, where available). We could do with the USB-ID of your device to confirm the above. |
| 04:35 | <babilen> | samafk: You can also download the new kernel manually from backports (http://backports.org) and install it with 'dpkg -i <kernel_package>' |
| 04:35 | <babilen> | samafk: Using a USB stick or some other removable medium to transfer the package from one box to the other |
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| 04:39 | <samafk> | cool man |
| 04:39 | <samafk> | i just inserted the disc from manufacturer |
| 04:40 | <samafk> | its got like a linux section but the readme says its been tested for redhat |
| 04:40 | <samafk> | would it still work, and how in the world do i install it |
| 04:40 | <samafk> | how does i usb-id |
| 04:40 | <babilen> | samafk: Try installing a newer kernel from backports ... |
| 04:41 | <samafk> | ok, will do |
| 04:42 | <gsimmons> | samafk: You can acquire the device's USB-ID via the "lsusb" command executed at a console. |
| 04:42 | <samafk> | is that an l or an I |
| 04:42 | <samafk> | nvm its an l |
| 04:42 | <gsimmons> | babilen: I suspect 2.6.31 or later is required. |
| 04:43 | <babilen> | gsimmons: :-( |
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| 04:44 | <samafk> | Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |
| 04:44 | <samafk> | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub |
| 04:44 | <samafk> | thats what this lsusb says |
| 04:45 | <samafk> | but theres also device 3, 2 and 1 with 1.1 root hub |
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| 04:46 | <gsimmons> | samafk: Did you connect the device prior to running lsusb? |
| 04:46 | <samafk> | yes |
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| 04:46 | <samafk> | how do i download this kernel thing |
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| 04:52 | <samafk> | http://debian.sil.at/backports.org/dists/lenny-backports/ |
| 04:52 | <samafk> | ? |
| 04:52 | <samafk> | one of these, hombre? |
| 04:53 | <Zhila> | it's an rt70 |
| 04:53 | <Zhila> | you'd need the firmware-ralink packages (or something like that) |
| 04:53 | <samafk> | where can i find this |
| 04:54 | <Zhila> | it's part of the non-free section, which means you need to modify /etc/apt/sources.list to be able to get it |
| 04:54 | <Zhila> | or, assuming you can't get to the internet with debian right now, download the deb, then copy over |
| 04:54 | <samafk> | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free ? |
| 04:54 | <Zhila> | you are running lenny? |
| 04:55 | <samafk> | i believe so |
| 04:55 | <Zhila> | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/firmware-ralink |
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| 04:57 | <samafk> | why is there no download button |
| 04:57 | <Zhila> | however, if you can connect to the internet with debian, best is to simply add non-free section to your main apt line (usually first one, should be deb http://http.<countrycode>.debian.org/debian lenny main |
| 04:57 | <gsimmons> | Zhila: It isn't a RT73 device (samafk's device is 802.11n, not 802.11g). The referenced package also doesn't contain the appropriate firmware. |
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| 04:58 | <samafk> | 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wireless Adapter U |
| 04:58 | <Zhila> | ah |
| 04:58 | <samafk> | i believe its all 3 |
| 04:59 | <Zhila> | oh.... rt2870... |
| 04:59 | <samafk> | the plot thickens |
| 05:00 | <Zhila> | http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta this page says it's part of the firmware-ralink... or is this only for testing/sid? |
| 05:00 | <Zhila> | ah, yes it is |
| 05:00 | <gsimmons> | Zhila: The latter (also lenny-backports). |
| 05:01 | <samafk> | so basically i need to download a recent firmware to update my kernel for my computer to be able to recognize and use my usb wireless adaptor? |
| 05:02 | <Zhila> | samafk: assuming lenny backports has linux 2.6.30, you'd need that, apt-get install linux-image-2.6.30-<i686|amd64|whatever_your_CPU_is> |
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| 05:04 | <samafk> | what do you mean whatever my cpu is |
| 05:04 | <samafk> | like my model |
| 05:04 | <samafk> | or 64-bit |
| 05:04 | <samafk> | im running a 32-bit version of deb |
| 05:04 | <Zhila> | then you'd need i686 |
| 05:04 | <Zhila> | or is it just 686 |
| 05:05 | <samafk> | its i |
| 05:06 | <Zhila> | no... actually it's just 686 |
| 05:07 | <Zhila> | linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686 |
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| 05:08 | <samafk> | ok |
| 05:08 | <themill> | , versions linux-image-686 |
| 05:08 | <judd> | linux-image-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+23; squeeze: 2.6.32+23 |
| 05:08 | <themill> | It's sufficient to "aptitude -t lenny-backports install linux-image-686" if you having the pinning recommended on backports.org so that you then automatically get updated kernels |
| 05:09 | <Zhila> | add non-free to your backport section, then install linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686, wireless-tools, and firmware-ralink |
| 05:09 | <samafk> | what do i download |
| 05:09 | <Zhila> | samafk: can your debian machine connect to the internet right now? |
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| 05:10 | <samafk> | n |
| 05:11 | <Zhila> | samafk: do you already happen to have 2.6.29 or greater? (type uname to find out) |
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| 05:12 | <samafk> | brb |
| 05:12 | <Zhila> | that's all I can help, I have to leave now.... |
| 05:13 | <samafk> | typed uname |
| 05:13 | <samafk> | comes up with 'linux' |
| 05:13 | <jmm> | samafk: try uname -a |
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| 05:14 | <Zhila> | sorry, forgot, uname -r (or, as jmm said, uname -a works as well) |
| 05:14 | <samafk> | 2.6.26 |
| 05:14 | <samafk> | -2 |
| 05:14 | <samafk> | -686 |
| 05:14 | <Zhila> | hmm... |
| 05:14 | <babilen> | samafk: I guess you have to download: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686_2.6.30-8~bpo50+2_i386.deb - transfer that file to your box and install it with 'dpkg -i <package>' |
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| 05:15 | <babilen> | samafk: It might be that you need to install other packages to satisfy dependencies. Do you have no way to connect to the wired network? |
| 05:15 | <samafk> | how do i do that |
| 05:15 | <samafk> | no way its like 50feet from my router |
| 05:16 | <samafk> | i dont have that long cables |
| 05:16 | <babilen> | samafk: Can't you carry it over? |
| 05:16 | <samafk> | i suppose |
| 05:16 | <samafk> | so your tellind me |
| 05:16 | <samafk> | there is no other way |
| 05:17 | <themill> | usb disk will work |
| 05:17 | <samafk> | excuse me? |
| 05:17 | <Zhila> | samafk: there is another way, but it would be much more difficult |
| 05:17 | <samafk> | tell me of this way |
| 05:17 | <babilen> | samafk: There is another way - download the file and copy it to a USB disk ... |
| 05:17 | <samafk> | im dling that link babilen |
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| 05:17 | <samafk> | ez |
| 05:17 | <themill> | also wireless-tools, and firmware-ralink |
| 05:17 | <Zhila> | you'd have to download the linux image file, then all the other files it depends on, then all the files those dependencies depend on, util there are no more dependencies |
| 05:18 | <babilen> | samafk: I still think it is much easier to just connect that computer to the wired network and install from there |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | so ill basically have to download the internet |
| 05:18 | <babilen> | samafk: :-D |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | ok |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | so lets say hypothetically |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | i do get it to my wired router |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | then i just upgrade my kernel |
| 05:18 | <Zhila> | apt-get and aptitude automatically find all dependencies for you, making it much simpler |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | using..? |
| 05:18 | <samafk> | wowszas |
| 05:19 | <samafk> | that would be useful |
| 05:19 | <babilen> | You would follow: |
| 05:19 | <babilen> | !bpo |
| 05:19 | <dpkg> | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> |
| 05:19 | <Zhila> | apt-get install linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:19 | <Zhila> | well... first... apt-get update |
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| 05:19 | <samafk> | so |
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| 05:19 | <samafk> | apt-get update |
| 05:19 | <babilen> | and then: 'aptitude install -t lenny-backports linux-image-2.6-686' and 'aptitude install firmware-ralink wireless-tools' |
| 05:19 | <samafk> | > apt-get install linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:19 | <samafk> | ok, cool |
| 05:20 | <samafk> | one last thing guys |
| 05:20 | <gsimmons> | babilen: No, you need to take firmware-ralink from lenny-backports too. |
| 05:20 | <samafk> | is it worth it? |
| 05:20 | <babilen> | sure |
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| 05:20 | <themill> | Zhila: "/msg dpkg why aptitude" and it's normally preferable to pin bpo appropriately so that you can get kernel updates automatically |
| 05:20 | <samafk> | someone, pastebin |
| 05:20 | <babilen> | samafk: make that: 'aptitude install -t lenny-backports linux-image-2.6-686 firmware-ralink' and 'aptitude install wireless-tools' |
| 05:21 | <themill> | you can do taht all in one command |
| 05:21 | <gsimmons> | samafk: Again, the USB-ID of your device is useful to know, as Linux 2.6.31 (or later) may actually be necessary for device support. |
| 05:21 | <babilen> | samafk: You can find instructions on how to pin packages from backports in the end of the instructions page on bpo. That will ensure that you get upgrades for the packages from backports. |
| 05:21 | <samafk> | lsusb? |
| 05:21 | <gsimmons> | samafk: Yes. Please pastebin the complete output this time. |
| 05:21 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: paste |
| 05:21 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 05:22 | <themill> | gsimmons: do you have a usb-id to module mapping somewhere? in machine readable form for judd? |
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| 05:23 | <samafk> | http://pastebin.com/d40b300d8 |
| 05:23 | <samafk> | please, edit away |
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| 05:23 | <rootx> | hi |
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| 05:23 | <themill> | samafk: edit sources.list then http://pastebin.com/m23bed15f |
| 05:24 | <babilen> | samafk: http://pastebin.com/m7d0e86ff (please also paste lsusb) |
| 05:24 | <samafk> | u guys can paste u knolw |
| 05:24 | <samafk> | edit it |
| 05:24 | <samafk> | update it |
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| 05:25 | <samafk> | lsusb at the end? |
| 05:25 | <babilen> | no - Just let us have a look *before* you do that :) |
| 05:25 | <gsimmons> | themill: No, but that would be most useful. By the way, does judd regularly poll the ModuleToWikipageMap page for changes? |
| 05:25 | <KingKong2009> | how can I configure NetworkManager to auto ifup eth0? |
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| 05:26 | <themill> | gsimmons: twice daily :) |
| 05:27 | <gsimmons> | themill: Excellent, I previously linked snd-cs46xx today. |
| 05:27 | <samafk> | so in following 2 easy tests in terminal |
| 05:27 | <samafk> | i can make my wireless THEORETICALLY work |
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| 05:27 | <samafk> | commands not tests* |
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| 05:28 | <babilen> | That assumes that 2.6.30 is indeed a recent enough kernel. It might be that you need a newer kernel than that which entails that you compile it yourself |
| 05:28 | <samafk> | make your own kernel |
| 05:28 | <samafk> | lol |
| 05:28 | <KingKong2009> | how can I configure NetworkManager or nm-applet to automatically ifup eth0? |
| 05:28 | <babilen> | Please paste the complete output of lsusb with that USB wireless adaptor plugged in |
| 05:29 | <samafk> | but nothing comes up |
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| 05:29 | <samafk> | http://pastebin.com/m3620cdee |
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| 05:29 | <samafk> | thats the entire output |
| 05:29 | <gsimmons> | babilen: The linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-* packages can be installed on a stable system (if necessary), owing to their few dependencies. |
| 05:29 | <babilen> | KingKong2009: Doesn't NM connect automatically to networks you have connected to previously? |
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| 05:30 | <themill> | gsimmons: and judd already knows about it :) |
| 05:30 | <KingKong2009> | babilen, It was working fine till today, I have running of testing for several years but now I have to connect manually |
| 05:31 | <gsimmons> | themill: Hahah, many thanks. :) |
| 05:31 | <themill> | gsimmons: does lenny's udev cope with that kernel? and things that look in sysfs given that the layout has changed? |
| 05:31 | <babilen> | KingKong2009: Have a look at /var/log/daemon.log |
| 05:33 | <samafk> | ▲ |
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| 05:33 | <samafk> | ▲ ▲ |
| 05:33 | <samafk> | triforce |
| 05:33 | <themill> | gsimmons: usb-id to driver mappings are on the cards for judd, but finding useful data sources and understanding how it all works is proving difficult since driver matching is part id-based and part device-class based. |
| 05:33 | <gsimmons> | themill: Works for me, but as I don't run a DE so I can't comment on the latter. |
| 05:34 | <themill> | gsimmons: fair enough. There were problems with some etch-backports kernels when acpi interfaces changed and suddenly acpi couldn't tell whether the battery was full or empty |
| 05:34 | <babilen> | so, will 2.6.30 be enough? |
| 05:35 | <KingKong2009> | babilen, what should I look for? It started happening after update via Synaptic |
| 05:35 | <babilen> | gsimmons: Why do you think >= 2.6.31 is needed? |
| 05:35 | <samafk> | the manual on the cd says it requires 2.4 or 2.6 kernel |
| 05:35 | <samafk> | i dont know why you people are telling me its kernel related |
| 05:35 | <babilen> | KingKong2009: Is it trying to associate with you AP and failing, or does it not try to associate at all? |
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| 05:36 | <jm_> | you can either trust that people who are helping you know what they are talking about, or stop whining and figure it out on your own |
| 05:36 | <samafk> | D: |
| 05:36 | <KingKong2009> | babilen, whats AP? |
| 05:36 | <babilen> | KingKong2009: access point - your wireless router |
| 05:36 | <samafk> | i do trust you guys but why would asus say 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 05:36 | <gsimmons> | babilen: I don't know for sure (due to no USB-ID provided), I'm going on previous experience with RT2870-based devices. Ask dpkg about dwa140 and see Debian bug #553441. |
| 05:37 | <KingKong2009> | Nope its a wired network, I can connect to it manually if I ifup eth0 |
| 05:37 | <samafk> | because they are a cheap chinese based company that major in motherboards and not wireless adaptors? perhaps |
| 05:37 | <babilen> | gsimmons: Hmm - And the 2.6.32-trunk package works fine on lenny? |
| 05:37 | <KingKong2009> | babilen, Nope its a wired network, I can connect to it manually if I ifup eth0 |
| 05:38 | <gsimmons> | babilen: FSVO "fine" (see themill's previous comment). |
| 05:38 | <babilen> | KingKong2009: I would not use NM to connect to a wired network. Just configure the network in /etc/network/interfaces and remove NM |
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| 05:39 | <babilen> | gsimmons: Hmm, so what to do? |
| 05:40 | <KingKong2009> | babilen, Thanks I shall try that |
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| 05:41 | <babilen> | Given #553441 and the work put into this problem on #d before it certainly looks like >=2.6.31 is necessary |
| 05:42 | <samafk> | what is the latest version of kernel, babilen , gsimmons |
| 05:42 | <themill> | I'm guessing that there's not much to lose here by experimenting with the squeeze kernel in lenny on this particular box.... :) |
| 05:43 | <babilen> | I concur |
| 05:44 | <babilen> | default release + aptitude install -t squeeze ? |
| 05:44 | <babilen> | or manual install? |
| 05:45 | <themill> | sticking the bits on a usb stick would be easier I guess |
| 05:45 | <picca> | bewre this bug #550562 if you have an ATI RV100 or RV200 graphical card |
| 05:45 | <picca> | s/bewre/beware/ |
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| 05:47 | <samafk> | are you people still discussing my dilema |
| 05:48 | <babilen> | yes |
| 05:48 | <babilen> | picca: That *is* quite a nasty one :-\ |
| 05:49 | <picca> | yes really |
| 05:49 | <picca> | I am trying to bissect using git to see where is the problem |
| 05:49 | <picca> | but I have a very slow computer |
| 05:50 | <samafk> | babs, what should i DL |
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| 05:53 | <EmleyMoor> | When I try to get my laptop to connect to my wireless network, it logs this message and fails: dhcdbd: message_handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0 for sub-path wlan0.dbus.get.reason |
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| 05:54 | <babilen> | samafk: http://paste.debian.net/59233/ |
| 05:54 | <samafk> | so i just |
| 05:54 | <samafk> | put them into terminal |
| 05:54 | <babilen> | samafk: Install them in reversed order |
| 05:54 | <samafk> | = winrar |
| 05:55 | <samafk> | ok |
| 05:55 | <samafk> | so they're just install packages |
| 05:55 | <samafk> | sort of thing |
| 05:56 | <babilen> | no, you download the .deb files, copy them to a USB stick and install them using 'dpkg -i <package>' on the other box. If you run into dependency problems you have to download the packages dpkg complains about as well |
| 05:56 | <samafk> | sorry but what do you mean by box |
| 05:56 | <babilen> | computer |
| 05:56 | <samafk> | ok. |
| 05:57 | <samafk> | so in the <package> firle |
| 05:57 | <samafk> | field*** |
| 05:57 | <babilen> | hmm? |
| 05:57 | <samafk> | i just put the link to the .deb file |
| 05:57 | <babilen> | no |
| 05:57 | <samafk> | what do i |
| 05:57 | <babilen> | You have to download these files and point dpkg to them on the USB stick |
| 05:58 | <samafk> | ok |
| 05:58 | <samafk> | ill get it |
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| 05:58 | <babilen> | I'll be back later |
| 05:58 | <babilen> | good luck |
| 05:58 | <samafk> | thanks everyone |
| 05:58 | <samafk> | ill be back later aswell |
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| 06:01 | <EmleyMoor> | Got the wireless back - not exactly sure how <g> |
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| 06:30 | <fmr> | plop |
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| 07:26 | <rbees> | last week I upgraded my testing install and my wifi broke |
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| 07:26 | <rbees> | any body else seen this |
| 07:26 | <mostly_harmless> | I'm running sqeeze on a sheeva plug, I see my / has run out of space. not sure what to do. /usr /home and /var are all on other partitions. |
| 07:27 | <rbees> | I usually fire up a live qtparted cd and resize the partitions |
| 07:28 | <mostly_harmless> | yeah, but I curious to know why it's full. seems wrong. |
| 07:28 | <rbees> | my wifi seems to have a disconnect between the driver and the desktop apps |
| 07:28 | <rbees> | how many kernels do you have installed? |
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| 07:29 | <rbees> | my wifi also seems to try to access the wired card (eth1) when I try to connect instead of the wireless card (eth0) |
| 07:31 | <rbees> | I have tried the kde network manager and wicd manager and acouple of others along with cli all with the same results |
| 07:31 | <rbees> | it was working just fine untill the update on sunday |
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| 07:34 | <themill> | mostly_harmless: "aptitude clean" and removing old, unused kernel packages can often help with this |
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| 07:45 | <CaBa> | themill: clean won't change a thing if he has /var on another partition |
| 07:47 | <themill> | CaBa: heh... missed that one. Unusual setup on such a small disk, asking for trouble |
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| 07:48 | <mfkne> | !why is flightgear not in testing |
| 07:48 | <dpkg> | flightgear is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=flightgear |
| 07:48 | <themill> | mostly_harmless: see if you have any unused kernels on your machine. Check the output of: aptitude search '~nlinux-image-2\.6\.~i' |
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| 07:49 | <krimzon> | how do i run any app as another user? i've managed to run gedit as another user but i'm trying to do it for iceweasel |
| 07:50 | <themill> | krimzon: you may need to try the "-no-remote" option as iceweasel looks around to see if there are any other copies running on the same display |
| 07:51 | <krimzon> | ahh, thanks, that works |
| 07:51 | <CaBa> | themill: well the var and home separation always makes sense on many environments... why he had to split /usr i also don't understand :P |
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| 07:52 | <themill> | CaBa: it can make sense, but unless you have disk space to burn you almost always end up regretting it... |
| 07:52 | <CaBa> | themill: and especially on small disks it makes sense |
| 07:52 | <themill> | only if you have an excellent crystal ball |
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| 07:53 | <krimzon> | themill: i also tried for nautilus, which gave a lot of warnings and failed |
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| 07:53 | <themill> | krimzon: no idea what it's problem is (it won't be -no-remote). It's probably trying to find a user d-bus or something for the other user :( |
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| 07:54 | <krimzon> | ahh |
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| 07:54 | <CaBa> | themill: well if you have plenty of diskspace its not as likely that some logfile or users homedir will make your system unfunctional. however, if its likely to happen (as on small drives), the separation is an effective protection |
| 07:54 | <sildur> | Hello |
| 07:55 | <sildur> | I search a Chan about C++ |
| 07:55 | <themill> | CaBa: yep, but you always end up with the last little bit of free space in the wrong place |
| 07:55 | <sildur> | in french if it's possible |
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| 07:55 | <krimzon> | and iceweasel is complaining about a configuration server, which i'd guess is a similar problem |
| 07:56 | <CaBa> | themill: well... plan well or consider repartitioning. anyway, except for /boot i use to keep everything within lvm, resizing is not such a pain and anyway rarely needed |
| 07:56 | <CaBa> | sildur: check out freenode. but train your english, you miss 80% of knowledge sources in computer science without fluent english skills |
| 07:57 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 385] by debhelper |
| 07:57 | <sildur> | ... |
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| 07:57 | <CaBa> | .oO(damn fresh... too vain to consider another language more useful than their own) |
| 07:58 | <themill> | CaBa: the smaller the disk the more likely you are to hit this problem. I have some hideously old machines where the partitioning layout seemed sensible at the time but with scope creep you end up installing more stuff on it and suddenly everything is full except for /home but you now need to install psql. And before you ask, this particular machine predates LVM... |
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| 07:58 | <CaBa> | themill: :) |
| 07:58 | <CaBa> | well i guess one can argue about pros and cons forever :P |
| 07:59 | <themill> | absolutely. For many machines, I don't bother any more... esp for desktop machines. The user is still going to be able to fill up /home and /tmp (or their quota on them) and most desktop-utils do some great dummy-spits when that happens. |
| 08:01 | <themill> | CaBa: for that specific old machine, I'm replacing it in the next day or two with one that has 150-times the disk space and I will certainly have separate partitions for stuff :) |
| 08:05 | <CaBa> | hehe |
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| 08:10 | <chanell> | ciao |
| 08:10 | <chanell> | !list |
| 08:10 | <dpkg> | chanell: VATTENE VIA |
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| 08:11 | <CaBa> | can someone recommend a store with the highest quality debian shirts? my old one reached the age of 10 and looks kinda creepy :P |
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| 08:16 | <krimzon> | aha, i think i've found something out - i'm doing: gksu -u browser "iceweasel -no-remote" |
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| 08:16 | <krimzon> | sometimes i get the error, sometimes not, and if i get the error it's because gconfd-2 isn't running for the user 'browser' |
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| 08:17 | <krimzon> | but gconfd seems to run automatically |
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| 08:19 | <El> | hola |
| 08:19 | <babilen> | hi |
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| 08:26 | <detly> | hey, I'm trying to get data off an HFS partition (it's not in fstab), but the permissions are stopping me from copying some of the data as a normal user — is there a way to mount it from the command line so that I can access everything as my normal, non-root self? this is on squeeze, btw |
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| 08:27 | <detly> | so far I've tried "sudo mount -r -o uid=1000 /dev/sdc2 /mnt/HFSDrive" |
| 08:27 | <detly> | oh, and umask=0444 |
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| 08:30 | <Web-sidux54> | hey i want use ran ramdisk partion like "mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /ramdisk -o size=4G,nr_inodes=200k,mode=01777" but its realy sloq |
| 08:30 | <Web-sidux54> | slow, i have 16gb of ddr3 ram |
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| 08:41 | <Guest1425> | d |
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| 08:53 | <KOJIbKA> | what can happen if I'll change properties of /var/local/ to Write And Execute for all Others? |
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| 09:04 | <jmm> | KOJIbKA: your computer take fire, and alien catch you for a rectal exam. |
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| 09:19 | <Phurl> | hi all, can you tell me if you my ITP is there? http://pastebin.com/f2b9c2175 |
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| 09:23 | <chrono> | can you help me? i cant use keyboard on x, it just dont works. it works on console. i can use startx, but it just stay on x if im root.else i get some x errors. |
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| 09:24 | <chrono> | anyway, even if root, i can't use keyboard. |
| 09:26 | <chrono> | btw i use squeeze amd64. please help me. |
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| 09:41 | <Phurl> | chrono, what are your errors? |
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| 09:42 | <Phurl> | you should have somethign in your ~.xlogs or something like that |
| 09:42 | <chrono> | ill see, wait a sec |
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| 09:43 | <KOJIbKA> | jmm: so far, machine is looking cool... my a$$ is safe. Though you can never tell anything for aliens :D |
| 09:44 | <jmm> | :) |
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| 09:44 | <jmm> | to answer your question still, no it make no problem to have users able to to read/write to /var/local |
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| 09:45 | <jmm> | trough you need to be sure that no suid file remain here. |
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| 09:46 | <KOJIbKA> | loud and clear. any link to start for complete noob looking for exploiting samba or uhmmm ... debian? first I'll do that to my so called network. |
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| 09:47 | <jmm> | KOJIbKA: debian's homepage have nice tutorial for such things. |
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| 09:54 | <chrono> | Phurl: i don't know where is ~.xlogs but my xorg log is http://pastebin.com/f7dbbc624 |
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| 09:54 | <Phurl> | lets see |
| 09:55 | <Phurl> | ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 09:56 | <Phurl> | chrono, (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device ""AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"" (type: KEYBOARD) ? |
| 09:56 | <Phurl> | did you try any livecd? |
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| 09:58 | <chrono> | Phurl: i have used an ubuntu liveCD yesterday |
| 09:58 | <Phurl> | and? |
| 09:58 | <chrono> | but just because the bug |
| 09:58 | <Phurl> | did it work? |
| 09:58 | <chrono> | the bug started 2 days ago |
| 09:58 | <chrono> | yes, the live CD worked perfectly |
| 09:58 | <Phurl> | ok |
| 09:59 | <Phurl> | so you want to compare your xlogs and configuration between those two |
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| 09:59 | <chrono> | keyboard ever worked well until 3 days ago with the great upgrade |
| 09:59 | <Phurl> | chrono, if you look in your log file |
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| 09:59 | <Phurl> | you will see that you have 3 keyboards |
| 10:00 | <Phurl> | installed |
| 10:00 | <Phurl> | your funky laptop buttons get installed |
| 10:00 | <Phurl> | i would google for those lines |
| 10:00 | <Phurl> | look for this II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device ""AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"" (type: KEYBOARD) ? |
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| 10:00 | <Phurl> | in german there are some hits |
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| 10:00 | <Phurl> | http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117128&p=744686 |
| 10:01 | <Phurl> | setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout de -variant basic -v 8 |
| 10:01 | <Phurl> | try that |
| 10:01 | <chrono> | layout en? |
| 10:02 | <chrono> | Cannot open display "default display" |
| 10:03 | <Phurl> | ok |
| 10:03 | <Phurl> | is this file ok? /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 10:05 | <chrono> | yes |
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| 10:07 | <themill> | chrono: you're going to do better in #debian-x but you're going to have to be patient. If you join and part every 5 minutes like you did the other day, no-one will bother even trying to answer. |
| 10:07 | <chrono> | they are already helping me, |
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| 10:08 | <themill> | chrono: excellent. Stick with them for the time being. |
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| 10:14 | <rex1> | hello |
| 10:15 | <rex1> | how come when i connect to a server in debian(lenny) via ( i assume nautilus ) [ Places > Connect to server ] i can create a file but not save ?? |
| 10:16 | <rex1> | the ftp user on the receiving server has full access |
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| 10:18 | <chrono> | what is the package name to install mesa? |
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| 10:19 | <Elessar> | rex1: The software you use to modify the file may not support GNOME-VFS integration. |
| 10:19 | <rex1> | its godaddy's 'economy' linux hosting |
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| 10:19 | <valdyn> | chrono: to what end do you need to install "mesa" ? |
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| 10:20 | <rexx> | its for a client, not me, i personally host with debian |
| 10:21 | <rexx> | but im frustrated cause i can't freaking connect to a linux server and work apparently |
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| 10:23 | <Elessar> | rexx: I think you can, but FTP is not designed to work on files, but to download and upload them. |
| 10:24 | <Elessar> | By the way, I strongly suggest you do not use FTP, but rather SFTP. |
| 10:24 | <valdyn> | rexx: with nautilus you can use ssh://user@server.tld/ iirc |
| 10:25 | <rexx> | well, i really enjoy the ease of connecting and being able to work on the files in nautilus via my ftp connection ya know? i code in gedit |
| 10:25 | <valdyn> | rexx: ssh does not make this harder |
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| 10:26 | <orjan> | Hi, I'm using squeeze. The last months I have got problem with X hanging ( i915 intel integrated gpu). Googling it seems that it's caused by putting kms in the kernel. Is there any Known workaround? |
| 10:26 | <rexx> | orjan: try lenny |
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| 10:27 | <valdyn> | orjan: you are using kms? |
| 10:27 | <valdyn> | orjan: no one is forcing you to use kms, and you probably arent anyway |
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| 10:28 | <locsmif> | Hi all. Pasting links with urlencoded things in them doesn't work very well in IceWeasel currently, is this a known issue? URLs get altered, and this results in a 404 |
| 10:28 | <Elessar> | <http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting>. |
| 10:28 | <orjan> | ok how do I check? |
| 10:28 | <OdyX> | orjan: it's not the kernel, it's xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 10:28 | <valdyn> | orjan: no need to check |
| 10:28 | <OdyX> | orjan: see the wiki page above ^ |
| 10:28 | <valdyn> | orjan: if you did not actively enable kms then its not on |
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| 10:29 | <orjan> | ok I'll read up on thewiki |
| 10:29 | <rexx> | i'd really like to figure out my problem. its got me considering going back to ubuntu.... as much as i dont wanna |
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| 10:30 | <valdyn> | rexx: whats wrong with just using ssh? |
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| 10:30 | <orjan> | valdyn: I googled and the bug reports with similair errors talked about kms |
| 10:30 | <rexx> | i do not believe that ssh is available with godaddy's linux hosting |
| 10:30 | <valdyn> | orjan: im sure i can google for a third 4th and 5th possible cause of your issue |
| 10:31 | <valdyn> | rexx: how the hell would you want to use linux without ssh? |
| 10:31 | <valdyn> | rexx: plain telnet ? |
| 10:31 | <rexx> | idk i just wanna ftp and work as usual ya know? |
| 10:32 | <valdyn> | rexx: please tell us whats so hard about trying ssh |
| 10:32 | <rexx> | i want to browse files with nautilus and double-click open then in gedit |
| 10:32 | <rexx> | them* |
| 10:32 | <valdyn> | rexx: i thought it was already clear that ssh does this |
| 10:33 | <valdyn> | rexx: ssh gives you *more* not less functionality |
| 10:33 | <rexx> | i'm all noobed out, how do i ssh? |
| 10:33 | <valdyn> | rexx: same as you ftp, except that you ssh, all with nautilus |
| 10:33 | <orjan> | valdyn ok, one I found was #551803, it has the same error msg |
| 10:34 | <orjan> | hmm the wiki says, From xserver-xorg-video-intel version 2:2.9.1-2, KMS is enabled by default on Linux, by the way of the file /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf. So from Squeeze on, no hand modification should be necessary anymore. |
| 10:35 | <valdyn> | orjan: i see, thats news for me |
| 10:35 | <valdyn> | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 10:35 | <judd> | xserver-xorg-video-intel -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2; lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny6; sid: 2:2.9.1-2; squeeze: 2:2.9.1-2 |
| 10:36 | <valdyn> | orjan: you can move that file away |
| 10:36 | <orjan> | valdyn, rename it or? |
| 10:38 | <rexx> | how do i connect to a server via ssh with nautilus?? |
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| 10:38 | <valdyn> | rexx: the same way as you do with ftp |
| 10:38 | <valdyn> | rexx: i dont get what your problem is. |
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| 10:39 | <valdyn> | judd: versions nautilus |
| 10:39 | <judd> | nautilus -- etch: 2.14.3-11+b1; lenny: 2.20.0-7; sid: 2.28.4-1; squeeze: 2.28.4-1 |
| 10:39 | <slik> | can anybody help me with installing awesome window manager..? i am new to linux |
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| 10:40 | <valdyn> | rexx: file -> connect to server -> select ssh where ftp is selected |
| 10:40 | <petemc> | slik: aptitude install awesome |
| 10:40 | <jiohdi> | anyone know how to make the youtube plugin work for totem mplayer? |
| 10:40 | <rexx> | valdyn: attempts using ssh says 'authentication failed' |
| 10:41 | <rexx> | my problem is that i can connect via ftp , i can create a file, i can open it in gedit, but the option to save is not available |
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| 10:41 | <slik> | petemc did that but i get an error message when trying to launch it "E: awesome: xerrorstart:103: another window manager is already running" |
| 10:41 | <rexx> | and i really need to be able to save more than anything |
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| 10:42 | <valdyn> | rexx: we know |
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| 10:43 | <valdyn> | rexx: my problem is that you arent trying to obvious easy fix, which as a sideeffect is even by far the technically superior solution |
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| 10:43 | <valdyn> | rexx: you can try nmap to find out if ssh is being served at all |
| 10:44 | <rexx> | i tried to connect ssh via the [ Places > Connect to Server ] method |
| 10:44 | <valdyn> | rexx: im not sure theres any way to fix nautilus except by patchign the code |
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| 10:44 | <rexx> | and it says authentication failied ( with the same user / pass that is 'primary' with godaddy and works for ftp ) |
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| 10:45 | <valdyn> | rexx: in a terminal: run "ssh your_server", see what you get |
| 10:46 | <rexx> | for ssh syntax, does 'your_server' have to be an ip? |
| 10:46 | <rexx> | or can it be the domain name? |
| 10:46 | <valdyn> | rexx: ip or name |
| 10:46 | <valdyn> | rexx: it can |
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| 10:46 | <rexx> | ok |
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| 10:47 | <rootpower> | hi i have some problems with my broadcom driver is this the right place? |
| 10:47 | <rexx> | valdyn: could not resolve host name :[ |
| 10:47 | <valdyn> | rexx: how can you be connecting via ftp when the host name cannot be resolved? |
| 10:48 | <rexx> | retrying with 'ssh www.hostname.com' |
| 10:48 | <rexx> | ah |
| 10:48 | <rexx> | ok |
| 10:49 | <valdyn> | rexx: www = hostname |
| 10:49 | <orjan> | Elessar: Thanks for the url to the wiki |
| 10:49 | <rexx> | asking for root@domain.com's password |
| 10:49 | <valdyn> | rexx: "hostname" is a domain name, com is the tld |
| 10:49 | <valdyn> | rexx: why are you being root locally? |
| 10:49 | <rexx> | i dont know root, only the 'godaddy primary user' |
| 10:49 | <rexx> | sigh |
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| 10:50 | <rexx> | i just wanna connect ftp and be able to open / create / save |
| 10:50 | <Emmanuel_Chanel> | Hello, all! |
| 10:50 | <rexx> | i can't connect as root |
| 10:50 | <rootpower> | ssh godabby@hostname.com |
| 10:50 | <valdyn> | rexx: well, we cannot fix the ftp protocol for you or nautilus |
| 10:50 | <rexx> | not an option |
| 10:50 | <rexx> | we should just assume ssh is not an option |
| 10:50 | <rootpower> | then login to root with sudo -s |
| 10:50 | <valdyn> | rexx: try ssh "primary_user@www.hostname.com" |
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| 10:52 | <valdyn> | rexx: a linux server without ssh is almost useless, who would pay for that? |
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| 10:52 | <rexx> | valdyn: i would not, once again , i host with debian from home, once again, this is for a client.. |
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| 10:53 | <father0fnine> | If you set up godaddy properly, you have SSH. Use it all the time. |
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| 10:54 | <rexx> | valdyn: permission denied, please try again |
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| 10:54 | <valdyn> | rexx: "permission denied" ? |
| 10:54 | <rexx> | so lets say i wanna do this 100% ftp |
| 10:54 | <valdyn> | rexx: that stupid if ssh is available |
| 10:54 | <rexx> | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 10:55 | <valdyn> | rexx: if its not, we likely cannot fix nautilus for you |
| 10:55 | <rexx> | i understand |
| 10:55 | <valdyn> | rexx: show the whole output of ssh |
| 10:55 | <rexx> | but i haven't had trouble connecting ftp before |
| 10:55 | <valdyn> | rexx: connecting isnt the problem |
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| 10:57 | <father0fnine> | rexx: Have you gone in through the godaddy GUI/Web interface and enabled SSH? |
| 10:58 | <rexx> | i will check |
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| 10:59 | <gsimmons> | rootpower: What specific driver is involved? What are the problems? |
| 10:59 | <babilen> | rexx: and make sure you connect as the correct user. In particular *not* *as* *root*! Try ssh your_user@host.tld .. |
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| 11:00 | <gsimmons> | rootpower: No private messages, please. Describe the issues in the channel. |
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| 11:01 | <rootpower> | <rootpower> he sees the driver but in the log he say this |
| 11:01 | <rootpower> | <rootpower> b43-phy0 error: Found unsupported PHY |
| 11:01 | <rootpower> | <rootpower> b43: probe of ssb0:0 failed with error -95 |
| 11:01 | <rootpower> | <rootpower> therefor he says the device is found |
| 11:01 | -!- | rootpower was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
| 11:02 | <father0fnine> | rexx: if so, go to your terminal and type "ssh godaddy_primary_user@domain.com" ... obviously replace "godaddy_primary_user" with your actual primary user name. |
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| 11:02 | <rootpower> | he sees the driver but in the log he say this |
| 11:02 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell rootpower -about paste |
| 11:02 | <mercutio22> | godaddy |
| 11:02 | <gsimmons> | rootpower: We saw. What is the PCI-ID of your device? |
| 11:03 | <rootpower> | b43-phy0 error: found unsupported PHY |
| 11:03 | <rootpower> | frimeware id: FW13 |
| 11:04 | <gsimmons> | No, the PCI-ID (e.g. lspci -nn | grep Broad). |
| 11:05 | <rootpower> | 14e4:4315 |
| 11:06 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell rootpower -about bcm4312 |
| 11:06 | <Elessar> | rexx: FTP is a problem, by itself, with it clear password transmission and its multiple ports. A problem for security and for firewalling. |
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| 11:09 | <Emmanuel_Chanel> | Hello! Is there a package maintainer about namazu? I installed namazu 2.0.20 with squeeze packages on lenny. |
| 11:09 | <Emmanuel_Chanel> | But when I command "namazu -v", it says its version is 2.0.18 . |
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| 11:09 | <Emmanuel_Chanel> | Shall I ask it on the Japanese community of Debian??? |
| 11:09 | <jiohdi> | anyone know how to make the youtube plugin work for totem mplayer? |
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| 11:23 | <rexx> | joeboulous@www.pawnjustjewelry.com's password: |
| 11:23 | <rexx> | Connection closed by 97.74.215.112 |
| 11:23 | <rexx> | ns2:/home/crex# |
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| 11:25 | <jmm> | meow |
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| 11:28 | <rexx> | eh |
| 11:28 | <rexx> | fuck it |
| 11:28 | <rexx> | ubuntu is like debian + irc - headache = no problems |
| 11:28 | <rexx> | fuck yall |
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| 11:28 | <petemc> | what a cock |
| 11:29 | * | dr|zed coughs. |
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| 11:29 | <jmm> | hehe I find this funny. |
| 11:29 | <jmm> | like when you go to the bus stop, and a homeless without pants laught at you. |
| 11:30 | <krimzon> | what's the /etc/fstab line i should use so that all users can access an ntfs partition? |
| 11:31 | <Elessar> | I think we cannot regret that such guys stay on Ubuntu. |
| 11:31 | <krimzon> | currently i can see the files but can't execute anything |
| 11:31 | <Elessar> | krimzon: Can *access*? |
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| 11:32 | <Elessar> | Oh, well, it may have been mounted with noexec. Or your files may not be executable. |
| 11:32 | <krimzon> | well... actually only i need read write create delete execute |
| 11:32 | <Phurl> | how can I access the bug system log file? |
| 11:32 | <jmm> | krimzon: what are you trying to execute ? |
| 11:32 | <jmm> | just for curiosity. |
| 11:32 | <Elessar> | Delete does not exist, it is write access to the directory. |
| 11:33 | <Elessar> | Phurl: What do you call bug system? |
| 11:33 | <krimzon> | the linux build of darkplaces (quake) on a windows partition |
| 11:33 | <Phurl> | the log file of the mails incoming |
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| 11:33 | <Phurl> | i would like to know if my mail was recieved |
| 11:33 | <jmm> | krimzon: scary. |
| 11:33 | <Phurl> | it has been 4 hours |
| 11:33 | <Phurl> | since I sent it |
| 11:33 | <Elessar> | Phurl: /var/log/mail.info. |
| 11:34 | <Elessar> | krimzon: Can you paste the current mount options of that partition? |
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| 11:34 | <Phurl> | http://pastebin.com/f2b9c2175 Elessar here is my log file |
| 11:34 | <Phurl> | I reported a bug |
| 11:34 | <Phurl> | but have no trace of it |
| 11:34 | <Phurl> | i dont even have a copy of the report |
| 11:34 | <krimzon> | rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,user,async,uid=1002,gid=1002 |
| 11:34 | <Elessar> | krimzon: And, by the way, what does a Linux exe do on a Windows partition? |
| 11:34 | <Phurl> | so i would have to type it in again |
| 11:35 | <krimzon> | that's where the data files for it are |
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| 11:35 | <krimzon> | it used to work, then i reinstalled and forgot what my old fstab said |
| 11:35 | <Elessar> | Phurl: You can check you mail queue to see if it is blocked for some reason. |
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| 11:36 | <Elessar> | krimzon: I would rather suggest you to install the Linux build on your normal partition, and, if you need to provide access to data files that are on another partition, to use a symlink. |
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| 11:36 | <Elessar> | krimzon: fmask=000, or something like that. |
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| 11:36 | <kgb> | Anyone know much about typical hardware requirements for a debian website server? I can only find minimum requirements online |
| 11:37 | <Phurl> | Elessar, you mean on my computer? |
| 11:37 | <Elessar> | Phurl: Yes. |
| 11:37 | <Phurl> | there is nothing |
| 11:37 | <Elessar> | Unless you used a relay. |
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| 11:37 | <Phurl> | i did not even setup my mail |
| 11:37 | <Phurl> | on this, I use webmail |
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| 11:37 | <father0fnine> | kgb: the biggest, baddest machine you can con the finance department to pay for :D |
| 11:38 | <Elessar> | kgb: <http://www.fr.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html>. |
| 11:38 | <krimzon> | is there a command to run any executable with any working directory? |
| 11:39 | <otakup0pe> | does anyone have suggestions on an easy way of having debuild compile two architectures in one pass |
| 11:39 | <kgb> | haha, its for a rails app I'm developing at University. I'm looking into getting a VPS for demoing etc |
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| 11:40 | <kgb> | Thanks for the link |
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| 11:40 | <Elessar> | kgb: Maybe you should reconfigure reportbug to use an appropriate relay server. |
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| 11:44 | <otakup0pe> | actually i guess my question is actually how do i use dpkg-genchanges to pull in compiled results from multiple architectures |
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| 11:48 | <Phurl> | ok i just resent my message from gmail to submit@ at least I have a receipt! |
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| 11:55 | <Phurl> | 569040@bugs.debian.org is mine! is worked |
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| 12:00 | <SERGIO> | ola |
| 12:00 | <SERGIO> | hello |
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| 12:28 | <Deliim> | oups |
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| 12:28 | <Deliim> | l ennui |
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| 12:31 | <vinicius> | how can i avoid creating tons of .htaccess files to protect directories? |
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| 12:32 | <dr|z3d> | vinicius: htaccess files are recursive, or can be.. you only need one to protect a dir and its subdirs. |
| 12:32 | <beersss> | I would like to know if the "there is no dbus session bus that matches the x.org display and so all dbus calls fail and therefore the unique apps also fail" -problem that Aaron J. Seigo descripe in has been solved in sid or testing and if it has not been solved has it then been marked as an RC bug? |
| 12:32 | <kop> | vinicius: Put the restrictions in your apache config file(s) directly? |
| 12:33 | <vinicius> | dr|z3d, i want each dir to have a user |
| 12:33 | <vinicius> | dr|z3d, do i need to create an .htaccess on each one of them? |
| 12:33 | <vinicius> | kop, |
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| 12:33 | <dr|z3d> | If each dir has separate user access, then sure. |
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| 12:34 | <vinicius> | dr|z3d, oh... dammit |
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| 12:37 | <themill> | vinicius: DirectoryMatch can do this for you: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directorymatch |
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| 12:39 | <Anthony> | hi guys i need some help although im totally new to debian before anyone goes jumping in too soon, |
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| 12:41 | <sney> | Anthony: I've got to run in a few minutes, but what's your question? always give specific information when asking for help here |
| 12:42 | <Anthony> | i have the first cd and im trying to install on a pentium 2 mobo, it loads a 2nd item called initrd.gz and thats as far as installation gets i think "although am not sure pc reboots" but the screen is blank for ages |
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| 12:43 | <Anthony> | do i need to compile my own kernals for this old system, if i do i need to get downloading some ebooks i think and do some reading |
| 12:44 | <sney> | regular i386 should be fine |
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| 12:44 | <kop> | Anthony: No. I just installed on a PII. You may not have enough ram to do a gui. Did you get the intitial screen where it displays the debian logo? |
| 12:44 | <sney> | can't hurt to do some research though |
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| 12:45 | <Anthony> | i did not kop, i dont need a gui tho i intend for this to be a home server and at a later date replace my router, i have 64 MB of ram |
| 12:45 | * | kop is stupidly proud he got it to install with 48MB of ram. |
| 12:45 | <Anthony> | hehe |
| 12:46 | <Anthony> | and il be stupidly proud when i get my head around linux |
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| 12:46 | <kop> | Anthony: Well, with 64M of ram my suggestion for later, when you get the splash screen, is to install only the basic most minimal system and then reboot and install the rest when you're not running off a ram disk. |
| 12:47 | <sney> | last time I saw a lockup at the loading initrd... point it was because the cd download was corrupt/incomplete |
| 12:47 | <cahoot> | Anthony: alt-F2 or such doesn't give a working disply? |
| 12:47 | <kop> | sney: That sounds plausable. |
| 12:47 | <Anthony> | so all i got to do is get to the splash screen |
| 12:47 | <Anthony> | b4 this disk i got the net install disk which is 150 megs insize and that too got stuck at same point |
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| 12:48 | <Anthony> | i also looked up how to do a check some as one post i read suggested and the check sum matched so the download was fine |
| 12:48 | <Anthony> | although thinking on i didnt checksum the cd |
| 12:49 | <Anthony> | you guys think most probable cause is adodgy download or cd write? |
| 12:49 | <kop> | Anthony: uh, Maybe you could type the last couple of lines before it freezes. (But first checksum the cd.) |
| 12:49 | <Anthony> | k will do, |
| 12:49 | <Anthony> | brb |
| 12:49 | <sney> | yes, and also re-seat your IDE cables in the computer, sometimes a loose connection can mess things up |
| 12:49 | <kop> | Anthony: You could also make sure that the drives are not jumpered for cable select, but are explicitly master or slave. |
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| 12:51 | <kop> | Anthony: Finally, it would not hurt to use the install disk to do a memory test. (Best to let that run overnight to be super-duper sure of the result.) |
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| 12:51 | <kop> | Anthony: Long memory test runs can reveal temperature problems. |
| 12:51 | <kop> | Anthony: And blow out the dust bunnies. |
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| 12:53 | <Anthony> | k dvd rom is set to master. and when iload up this comp the memory test takes about a minute abouts its the same every time |
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| 12:54 | <locklace> | also try booting some other cds. having a copy of grml around is always good |
| 12:56 | <kop> | Anthony: There's memtest86+ on the install disk that does a _much_ better job of memory testing, should you need it. This does not feel like a memory problem.... |
| 12:57 | <kop> | Anthony: For that matter, make sure the cd you've got boots in another computer. |
| 12:57 | <Anthony> | cool i was looking for a bootable form of linux to mess around with doing commands and what not il get the grml. |
| 12:59 | <Anthony> | at kop il try booting the cd in this comp im on right now. see if i can get as far as the splash screen, first il copy and save this convo as im having trouble keeping all the suggestions in my head |
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| 13:01 | <chrono> | is there any way to make a user use metacity? |
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| 13:01 | <chrono> | im root, but i dont know how can i change my users option form compiz to metacity. |
| 13:02 | <Anthony> | brb |
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| 13:03 | <goodger> | chrono: uninstalling compiz may help, and you can set read-only and owned by root whatever configuration file controls the WM they use |
| 13:06 | <vinicius> | themill, thanks! ill try that |
| 13:06 | <chrono> | well, i am the user. but i dont know how to change my wm from console, since compiz dont run |
| 13:08 | <vinicius> | themill, can i use directorymatch on .htaccess ? |
| 13:08 | <chrono> | goodger: do you know where can i change the wm that an user use |
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| 13:10 | <kop> | chrono: The gdm login screen gives you the option before you login. (I found changing the wm for the gnome desktop to be painful. But changing wm that do their own desktop stuff is easy.) |
| 13:10 | <chrono> | gdm? where is it? |
| 13:11 | <kop> | chrono: It's one of the 3 (usual) programs you can install that give you a graphical login prompt. It's installed by default with the gnome desktop. |
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| 13:12 | <chrono> | kop, ok, i know gdm, but i can´t find the menu that gives me option for change wm |
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| 13:13 | <vinicius> | ok... how can i set htaccess to ask password only to WAN users? |
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| 13:18 | <E0x> | vinicius: maybe this can work |
| 13:18 | <E0x> | http://debian.pastebin.com/m58042410 |
| 13:18 | <E0x> | just change the network adress for you local network address |
| 13:18 | <vinicius> | E0x, thanks |
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| 13:19 | <E0x> | vinicius: tell me if it work i never try it |
| 13:19 | <E0x> | i just read the doc of apache |
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| 13:20 | <vinicius> | E0x, ok |
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| 13:21 | <kop> | chrono: IIRC it's called "session". I suppose it's possible that some themes don't display this, but I thought they all did. |
| 13:21 | <vinicius> | E0x, it seems to work |
| 13:21 | <vinicius> | E0x, i must check from outside the network |
| 13:21 | <vinicius> | E0x, wait some |
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| 13:22 | <vinicius> | E0x, it authenticates on WAN, but it doesnt point to the right place |
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| 13:24 | <Deliim> | Test |
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| 13:24 | <locsmif> | Hi all. Pasting links with urlencoded things in them doesn't work very well in IceWeasel currently, is this a known issue? URLs get altered, and this results in a 404 |
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| 13:25 | <Deliim> | passer par virtualobx |
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| 13:27 | <chrono> | thank you kop, i have add a new command, metacity --replace to actions. |
| 13:27 | <chrono> | now, all works |
| 13:28 | <chrono> | thank you all guys |
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| 13:28 | <kop> | chrono: Good. (It's all a bit of voodoo to me. I always fumble around before getting it to work.) |
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| 13:30 | <chrono> | xD |
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| 13:35 | <chrono> | kop, stopped working |
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| 13:36 | <chrono> | can you see exactly what is the command that let you choice metacity before login? |
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| 13:36 | <chrono> | if it´s possible for you, so if you tell me the command, i can do it too |
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| 13:38 | <chrono> | wow, i have a new idea, how can i make some command be executed after login? |
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| 13:59 | <chrono> | job is done. |
| 14:00 | <chrono> | thank you all |
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| 14:16 | <randomnoob> | Excuse, can anyone tell me if 55c on all cores is too high a temp for my laptop cpu? (proc/cpuinfo says it is a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9000 @ 2.00GHz |
| 14:16 | <randomnoob> | ) |
| 14:16 | <cahoot> | idle? |
| 14:16 | <randomnoob> | well, with youtube going and firefox |
| 14:16 | <randomnoob> | 49c idle |
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| 14:17 | <randomnoob> | I'm worried my fans aren't working, lm-sensors doesnt detect the things at all, and /proc/acpi/thermal_zones has nothing in it, nor does /proc/acpi/fans |
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| 14:18 | <mercutio22> | randomnoob: the temperature is ok I guess, but you can check on wikipedia |
| 14:18 | <randomnoob> | oh really? gah, I didn't even think of that |
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| 14:19 | <dr|z3d> | randomnoob: Check in your bios.. if the cpu gets too hot, you should be able to shut down your pc automatically. You should also be able to monitor fan speed and cpu temp. |
| 14:19 | <mercutio22> | randomnoob: my cores are on 60 Celcius here |
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| 14:20 | <randomnoob> | dr|z3d, hmm, I'll have to check further, the only thing I saw in my bios was 'cpu fan always on' as an option. Then again, I have an HP laptop/bios so its probable 'kept simple' or something |
| 14:20 | <cahoot> | randomnoob: also I think you want to look into /sys, like /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0 |
| 14:21 | <chattr> | randomnoob: you could try fiddling with what package cpulimit supplies |
| 14:23 | <randomnoob> | hmm... /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone/cooling_device0/cur_state has a value of 0. I'll try and figure out what that means |
| 14:23 | <chattr> | randomnoob: or packages cpufrequtils and cpufreqd |
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| 14:24 | <randomnoob> | chattr, okay, ty |
| 14:24 | <chattr> | yw |
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| 14:26 | <randomnoob> | hmm, dmesg | grep cooling shows cooling_device0 through cooling_device5 |
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| 14:29 | <retrospectacus> | running etch... http://pastebin.ca/1791712 # do those Status and Err lines mean there is a problem?? |
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| 14:30 | <OdyX> | !etch |
| 14:30 | <dpkg> | Etch is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support will continue until February 15th, 2010; now is the time to put your Lenny upgrade plans into action, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Also ask me about <oldstable>, <oldstable security>, <install etch>, <etch release notes>. Currently <4.0r8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch |
| 14:30 | <chaos> | what would i use for traffic shaping if i want more than just NIC based? |
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| 14:31 | <retrospectacus> | I know what etch is, thanks... |
| 14:32 | <retrospectacus> | I'm asking if lines 3 and 4 are "a bad thing" |
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| 14:47 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 396] by debhelper |
| 14:48 | <OdyX> | retrospectacus: my hint was not to tell you about _what_, but more to point its end-of-life, due in 6 days… |
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| 14:49 | <OdyX> | retrospectacus: and these "Status" and "Error lines, are just pointers to explain the labels below |
| 14:50 | <OdyX> | the first column is the Desired, the second is the Status ( N for Not-Installed, I for Installed, …) and the third is the Error (you have none on mailman) |
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| 15:00 | <Anthony> | well im farther along the debian install now after some guys helped me b4 but the graphics was garbled so i hit alt and f2, anyone no what i do next or have a link to a guide of how to install from here on |
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| 15:00 | <Anthony> | i just have a list of built in commands now and a flashing cursor |
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| 15:03 | <retrospectacus> | OdyX: thanks |
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| 15:23 | <jmut> | hi. How can I figure out php package what --configure options were used when building the package? |
| 15:26 | <grondilu> | Hi, I have a wifi ad-not LAN wich is working fine just after I create it. But if I let it idle during a few minutes, it doesn't works that well. For instance, the transfer rate isn't good enough to see movies through network anymore. Plus, if I try SSH, again the rate of transfer is poor and sometimes it even fail. I have to reconfig the interfaces and then it works fine again. What's wrong ? |
| 15:26 | <grondilu> | oops ad-HOC and not ad-NOT |
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| 15:27 | <grondilu> | Hi, I have a wifi ad-hoc LAN which is working fine just after I create it. But if I let it idle during a few minutes, it doesn't works that well. For instance, the transfer rate isn't good enough to see movies through network anymore. Plus, if I try SSH, again the rate of transfer is poor and sometimes it even fail. I have to reconfig the interfaces and then it works fine again. What's wrong ? |
| 15:27 | <kubyz> | re =)) |
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| 15:28 | <geckos> | hi |
| 15:28 | <locklace> | !tell grondilu about how to ask |
| 15:29 | <grondilu> | locklace: ?? |
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| 15:29 | <geckos> | (gedit:4342): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/local/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory |
| 15:29 | <geckos> | I'm getting this when start a gedit by terminal |
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| 15:30 | <Lethalman> | geckos, you have a local instaalation of gedit maybe |
| 15:30 | <Lethalman> | not by package |
| 15:30 | <geckos> | Lethalman, I install it via aptitude |
| 15:30 | <geckos> | about 5 minutes ago |
| 15:31 | <Lethalman> | or gtk? |
| 15:31 | <Lethalman> | reinstall gtk and gedit |
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| 15:31 | <geckos> | need to stop X to reinstall gtk? |
| 15:31 | <Lethalman> | no |
| 15:31 | <geckos> | ok |
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| 15:33 | <geckos> | libgtk2.0-0 ? |
| 15:34 | <grondilu> | I use Lenny on a EeePC 900. I've configured a wifi ADHOC LAN between this EeePC and my N900 mobile phone (Maemo OS). My problemn is that the quality of the transmission seems to fade if I don't use the connection for some time. Is that normal ? |
| 15:34 | <geckos> | I did it .. and take the same error |
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| 15:35 | <geckos> | A some months ago I make the stupid thing of try to install gtk 2.18 from source files here |
| 15:35 | <geckos> | some bugs appear since then |
| 15:36 | <Lethalman> | geckos, reinstall gtk yes |
| 15:36 | <geckos> | geckos, I did it |
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| 15:36 | <Lethalman> | and remove /usr/local/lib files that belong to your local gtk installation |
| 15:36 | <Lethalman> | or, do you have the sources still? |
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| 15:37 | <geckos> | I have it |
| 15:38 | <geckos> | I do sudo make uninstall |
| 15:38 | <Lethalman> | geckos, ldd `which gedit` |
| 15:39 | <geckos> | searching for a 'Not found'? |
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| 15:39 | <Lethalman> | geckos, ldd $(which gedit) |
| 15:40 | <geckos> | http://codepad.org/bCRiwqzC |
| 15:40 | <Lethalman> | geckos, you don't only have gtk installed manually, but also other parts of gnome |
| 15:40 | <geckos> | my bad |
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| 15:42 | <Lethalman> | geckos, please use jhbuild or garnome in some dir other than /usr/local (e.g. /opt) for installing another version of gnome |
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| 15:44 | <geckos> | Can't I recover my current gnome? |
| 15:44 | <geckos> | o_O |
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| 15:45 | <Lethalman> | geckos, by removing the old one |
| 15:45 | <Lethalman> | errrr |
| 15:45 | <Lethalman> | geckos, by removing your local installation and keep the old one |
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| 15:46 | <geckos> | garnome can remove it for me? |
| 15:46 | <geckos> | and set every thing .. or I need to make this by hand |
| 15:46 | <Lethalman> | geckos, no... I said that for future usage... now I'm saying repeatdly one simple thing: remove your /usr/local installation of gnome |
| 15:46 | <Lethalman> | I don't know whether you still have sources or not, you have to do that or remove /usr/local from your /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 15:47 | <Lethalman> | but I'd suggest cleaning up your /usr/local rather than removing /usr/local for ld usage |
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| 15:52 | <geckos> | Lethalman, sorry man.. I'm realy noob .. there is an right way to do this or just a mean of delete every thing that is related with gnome and is in /usr/local |
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| 15:52 | <Lethalman> | geckos, make uninstall if you have sources or manually remove related files |
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| 15:57 | <geckos> | Lethalman, pango too? |
| 15:58 | <Lethalman> | geckos, yes |
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| 16:01 | <geckos> | sorry my browser don't open yet so I will paste here: ldd $(which gedit) | grep "/usr/local" |
| 16:01 | <geckos> | libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb7a70000) |
| 16:01 | <geckos> | libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb78af000) |
| 16:01 | <geckos> | libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0xb787a000) |
| 16:01 | <geckos> | libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 (0xb6f90000) |
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| 16:02 | <geckos> | Lethalman, libpixman and libtasn1 too? |
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| 16:03 | <Lethalman> | geckos, all those listed in your paste with /usr/local |
| 16:03 | <Lethalman> | geckos, they must all be referenced under /usr/lib |
| 16:05 | <Anthony> | can anyone help the debian install of cd 1 now stops at "detecting network hardware" the mobo has no built in lan but i have put in a wireless pci card |
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| 16:07 | <locklace> | Anthony: can you try a backport installer image, http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:08 | <Anthony> | cheers locklace il check it out now |
| 16:08 | <geckos> | Lethalman, ok, ldd $(which gedit) | grep "/usr/local" gives me nothing |
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| 16:08 | <Lethalman> | geckos, ok hopefully you got your old gnome back working |
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| 16:09 | <Lethalman> | geckos, does running gedit still give you warnings? |
| 16:09 | <geckos> | no |
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| 16:09 | <geckos> | and every thing works fine |
| 16:09 | <geckos> | Lethalman, ty man |
| 16:10 | <Anthony> | locklace: do i just try to install with one of these iso's then, there not in adition to the cd im already using |
| 16:10 | <Lethalman> | geckos, you're welcome |
| 16:10 | <geckos> | where do you figure out the wrong installation? |
| 16:10 | <geckos> | ldd |
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| 16:11 | <locklace> | Anthony: yeah. easiest way is to use them for netinstall |
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| 16:12 | <geckos> | Lethalman, only one last question |
| 16:12 | <Lethalman> | ok |
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| 16:12 | <Anthony> | k i do want to do it in the ways i have been reading about i.e. recompilling the installer with drivers and such. but lol im totally new il just wait until im at that level. hehe |
| 16:13 | <geckos> | Lethalman, when installing a new package from source.. how I know where the old one is installed .. to replace my old version with new and avoid this kind of problems |
| 16:13 | <locklace> | Anthony: you should never need to do that |
| 16:13 | <Lethalman> | geckos, ideally you should not replace something with another thing |
| 16:13 | <geckos> | Lethalman, so? |
| 16:13 | <Lethalman> | you should keep debian and your sources separated |
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| 16:14 | <geckos> | I see |
| 16:14 | <Lethalman> | anyway |
| 16:14 | <Lethalman> | you have 3 chances: |
| 16:14 | <geckos> | aways upgrade from debian repositories !? |
| 16:14 | <Lethalman> | 1) install your software with --prefix=/usr (highly unrecommended) |
| 16:14 | <Lethalman> | 2) uninstall debian software and install your own (this would lead to uninstalling lots of rdepends) |
| 16:14 | <simonft> | Does anybody here use uzbl? I can't figure out how to close it without killing the process. |
| 16:15 | <Anthony> | locklace: i guess ive misunderstood. i did go out and find linux drivers for my card. so they could be included in the install somehow. |
| 16:15 | <Lethalman> | 3) install to another path and use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for that |
| 16:15 | <Lethalman> | 4) build your own .deb |
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| 16:15 | <Lethalman> | geckos, I recommend 3 and 4 |
| 16:15 | <geckos> | I see |
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| 16:15 | <Lethalman> | geckos, of course, you only need that if you have conflicts... if your software is not already installed, you can install it in /usr/local |
| 16:16 | <locklace> | Anthony: that should virtually never be necessary. instead, os install images should support almost all hardware the kernel supports out of the box, and should be updated when the kernel is |
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| 16:16 | <Anthony> | k |
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| 16:17 | <geckos> | Lethalman, ty for all man |
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| 16:31 | <kuuh> | how do i find out, if an xserver is runing on an machine? |
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| 16:32 | <sney> | kuuh: echo $DISPLAY |
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| 16:32 | <sney> | or, ps aux and look for X |
| 16:32 | <cesurasean> | is there a way to debug apache? i keep getting failed, and im not even using ssl virtualhosts |
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| 16:33 | <kuuh> | sney, thanks.. neither is saying anything bout X :) |
| 16:33 | <cesurasean> | i have something in the logs about ssl, also. |
| 16:33 | <kuuh> | anyways.. should i use VNC or NX |
| 16:34 | <MaxRebo> | I can't get my new debian install to show a graphical screen. Monitor goes "out of range" and I cannot see where in X11 to edit anything to fix it. Any help? |
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| 16:34 | <cesurasean> | http://pastebin.com/f4d403843 |
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| 16:37 | <chealer> | MaxRebo: which version do you use? |
| 16:38 | <locklace> | !tell MaxRebo about xorg.conf |
| 16:38 | <MaxRebo> | debian 5.04 |
| 16:39 | <MaxRebo> | I have checked my xorg.conf and I don't see any resolutions, only a reference to "Configured Monitor" |
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| 16:39 | <kuuh> | hmpf.. how do i start an x server on a remote VM ;) |
| 16:40 | <locklace> | MaxRebo: you get to add them, along with your monitor's video details. man xorg.conf |
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| 16:43 | <wozza> | kuuh did you try `Xorg -configure` |
| 16:43 | <MaxRebo> | ok so they won't be auto-detected? I normally use SuSE but I am checking out Debian. |
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| 16:44 | <wozza> | or remove xorg.conf altogether and let randr do its work (albeit without prop. drivers) |
| 16:44 | <kuuh> | wozza, i assume if the system doesn't know 'Xorg -configure' there is no Xserver, am i right? |
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| 16:45 | <wozza> | apt-get xserver-xorg |
| 16:45 | <wozza> | apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 16:45 | <kuuh> | well i assumed that Fluxbox had an dependency |
| 16:46 | <kuuh> | so still vnc or nx? |
| 16:46 | <MaxRebo> | Well I just tried the Xorg -configure and it complained "Server is already active for display 0" I get "Out of range" on my monitor and I have to go to a text-session to do anything |
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| 16:47 | <MaxRebo> | I installed from the KDE CD Debian 504 |
| 16:47 | <raylu> | MaxRebo: so kill your X session first. in a tty, run "invoke-rc.d gdm stop" or similar |
| 16:47 | <chealer> | MaxRebo: 5.0.4. Which graphics card do you use? |
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| 16:48 | <MaxRebo> | arg Gigabyte MoBo I think it is an ATI compatible |
| 16:49 | <MaxRebo> | Dont have the doco here at work. |
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| 16:52 | <maxxe> | release date for squeeze? |
| 16:54 | <MaxRebo> | gigabyte ga-ma785gm-us2h mobo Integrated ATI Radeon HD4200 graphics (DirectX10.1) |
| 16:55 | <chealer> | !wwsr |
| 16:55 | <dpkg> | Squeeze is anticipated to be <freeze>d in March 2010. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00002.html and ask me about <squeeze bet> <squeeze kernel> |
| 16:57 | <MaxRebo> | Shouldn't the install CD have given me a working X system? |
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| 16:58 | <chealer> | MaxRebo: which video driver is X trying to use? |
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| 17:00 | <bja> | !pie locklace |
| 17:00 | * | dpkg hits locklace in the face with a cream pie |
| 17:01 | <locklace> | !beer bja |
| 17:01 | * | dpkg pulls out an exquisite Yuengling Lager for bja |
| 17:02 | <Anthony> | ive installed the custom lenny, and it gets further than cd1 but near the end of the network detect part it hangs again. any ideas anyone |
| 17:02 | <MaxRebo> | chealer where do I find this? |
| 17:02 | <kop> | Anthony: Ah. No worries. Check out what Alt-F4 says in the logs and tell us. |
| 17:02 | <locklace> | Anthony: maybe there's a problem with your network card. try physically reseating it and check your bios settings too |
| 17:03 | <sney> | MaxRebo: the installer tries, but some systems are too new or too weird for it to always work. The more information we get when this happens, the more it will work in the future. |
| 17:03 | <Anthony> | i tested this card in another comp b4 i started this it worked fine, il get the logs now |
| 17:03 | <MaxRebo> | understood. |
| 17:03 | <kop> | Anthony: Also, if it's not PCI it could be jumpered wrong for interrupts. |
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| 17:03 | <MaxRebo> | I know the problem is prolly the screen refresh rate |
| 17:04 | <Anthony> | its a pci card but i cantget at the logs its totally locked |
| 17:04 | <chealer> | MaxRebo: in X's log |
| 17:04 | <locklace> | MaxRebo: man xorg.conf; seriously |
| 17:05 | <locklace> | MaxRebo: look for entries like VertRefresh, HorizSync and ModeLine |
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| 17:05 | <MaxRebo> | my xorg.conf is nerfed and contains NOthing |
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| 17:05 | <kop> | Anthony: Well, there's halting earlier in the process and doing Alt-F2 and typing "lspci" so we can see what card it is. (I think lspci is included.... It is eventually, but maybe needs the network....) |
| 17:06 | <MaxRebo> | its about 40 lines and everything is generic |
| 17:06 | <maxxe> | noobs |
| 17:06 | <locklace> | that's why you have to add things |
| 17:06 | <chealer> | MaxRebo: not necessarily. Debian doesn't support everything. In particular, Debian stable doesn't necessarily support new hardware. |
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| 17:06 | <kop> | Anthony: Do you know exactly what card it is? |
| 17:06 | <MaxRebo> | checking my var/log/xorg |
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| 17:07 | <Anthony> | its a realtek 8185 pci wireless |
| 17:07 | <kop> | Anthony: There's also "dmesg | more" in alt-f1. |
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| 17:08 | <kop> | !tell Anthony about rtl-wifi |
| 17:08 | <chealer> | dpkg: no, when will squeeze release is <reply>Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule was done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html |
| 17:08 | <dpkg> | okay, chealer |
| 17:08 | <Anthony> | oh no this is not good is it? |
| 17:08 | <kop> | Anthony: It seems the rtl8187se is not supported. The 8187 is. |
| 17:09 | <kop> | Anthony: Oops. The 8185 is supported. |
| 17:09 | <Anthony> | lol |
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| 17:09 | <Anthony> | thats good |
| 17:10 | <Anthony> | so do you want me to redo the installation and try and get the logs before it hangs? |
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| 17:10 | <bwampler> | I'm doing an fai install and want to get the default package list used by the debian net install cd, do you guys know how to get that list? |
| 17:10 | <Anthony> | btw after locklace suggestion im trying to install with the custom lenny |
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| 17:10 | <kop> | Anthony: But I don't know wifi. Or why it might lock up. Check on the debian wiki? Somebody here must be better eqipped to help. |
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| 17:11 | <MaxRebo> | PCI:*(1:5:0) ATI Technologies Inc unkown chipset (0x9710) rev 0, Mem @ bla bla bla grr |
| 17:11 | <kop> | Anthony: "custom lenny"? Let me look back and see. |
| 17:11 | <Anthony> | k ta kop, btw the prob i had earlier was a cmos checksum error and i totally missed it, looked in the mobo and the bios jumper was not set as it was missing. hehe |
| 17:12 | <kop> | Anthony: Ah. kumuto. |
| 17:12 | <kop> | Anthony: Good to know what happened. |
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| 17:13 | <Anthony> | the card does have linux drivers that come from the site is there anyway to load them in first before i start the debian installation |
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| 17:13 | <kop> | Anthony: I don't know about wireless and installation at all. The stock installer kernel should have support for your chipset, but maybe the installer does not do wireless? If it does then expert mode would let you turn it on. |
| 17:13 | <Anthony> | k |
| 17:13 | <kop> | Anthony: You always want to use the in-kernel drivers where possible for best support and reliability. |
| 17:13 | <sney> | the installer does wireless, but it doesn't do encrypted wireless |
| 17:13 | <Anthony> | oh |
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| 17:14 | <Anthony> | my router is currently set on wpa2 psk |
| 17:14 | <Anthony> | il check out the link you sent me for more info |
| 17:14 | <sney> | yep, that'll stop it |
| 17:14 | <kop> | sney: And his lock up? What's with that? He says Alt-F4 does not work. |
| 17:14 | <locklace> | sney: the kmuto image can |
| 17:14 | <sney> | oh? WPA2 even? cool |
| 17:15 | <sney> | I thought the lockup was his cmos issue |
| 17:15 | <Anthony> | hehe should i turn off all encryption? |
| 17:15 | * | sney reads up |
| 17:15 | <kop> | sney: This is a new lockup that happens when network is configured. |
| 17:15 | <cesurasean> | ok, i have found the problem is with my ssl setup. here is my output someone can take a look and help you. - http://pastebin.com/f5bc9ee5d |
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| 17:16 | <MaxRebo> | It looks like it finally loaded a generic Vesa driver |
| 17:16 | <kop> | Anthony: A PII with wireless? I guess there's something for everybody. |
| 17:16 | <sney> | probably a PCI card :P |
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| 17:16 | <kop> | sney: That makes sense. |
| 17:17 | <cesurasean> | anyone know why apache is rejecting my keys and certs? please help. |
| 17:17 | <sney> | cesurasean: try in #apache on freenode |
| 17:17 | <Anthony> | its a question of economics i dont have a penny to my name right now and all i need it for is to log into the home server |
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| 17:17 | <kop> | Anthony: Any sound cards to remove? (Or maybe turn off in the bios?) |
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| 17:19 | <Anthony> | i dont think so but id have to check more, il just search google now |
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| 17:20 | <locklace> | i stand by the suggestion to reseat the card and double-check the bios |
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| 17:23 | <Anthony> | theres no option at all for sound in the bios and nothing in the manual so i can only assume my mobo does not support a internal sound card and i have not added one |
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| 17:23 | <locklace> | what |
| 17:23 | <Anthony> | locklace: sorry to ask again but check the bios for what |
| 17:23 | <sney> | Anthony: no ports on the back? |
| 17:24 | <Anthony> | il reseat the card |
| 17:24 | <locklace> | when did sound come into this |
| 17:24 | <flixh> | todays update to nm broke my knetworkmanager applet, anybody got an idea who to get my wlan connectivity back? |
| 17:24 | <flixh> | flixh: squeeze that is |
| 17:24 | <sney> | kop suggested removing/disabling other PCI devices and I agree |
| 17:24 | <Anthony> | locklace: kop suggested to disable sound if i had it |
| 17:24 | <sney> | especially if they aren't being used |
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| 17:26 | <MaxRebo> | so nothing? How do I force a lower refresh rate since it is not available in xorg.conf? |
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| 17:28 | <locklace> | MaxRebo: dude, i've been telling you to read man xorg.conf for the last two hours. if you'd done that you would have seen that you can configure whatever video parameters you want |
| 17:28 | <locklace> | !tell MaxRebo about modeline |
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| 17:29 | <flixh> | ah, never mind, just found the bug in the bts, downgrading now |
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| 17:29 | <sney> | I think the refresh rate is set as a HorizSync or VertRefresh parameter in the Monitor section of xorg.conf |
| 17:29 | <Anthony> | ok ive reseated the card and put in cd1 now |
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| 17:33 | <MaxRebo> | Well I didn't want to have to fully populate an empty xorg.conf. I know what it is and it seems that it is no used |
| 17:33 | <MaxRebo> | not* |
| 17:34 | <locklace> | it's used if it's there, and you need to populate it with your video settings if autodetection fails |
| 17:34 | <Anthony> | when i hit alt plus f4 how do i get it to resume? |
| 17:34 | <MaxRebo> | ok thx |
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| 17:36 | <chealer> | Anthony: get what to resume? |
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| 17:37 | <Anthony> | i hit f4 while installing debian near where it crashed last time so i could get the logs, only i wanted to resume it |
| 17:38 | <rbees> | sunday last I udated Preparing to replace network-manager-kde 1:0.7~~svn941706-2 (using .../network-manager-kde_1%3a0.7~~svn941706-2_amd64.deb) ... and now my wifi won't work |
| 17:38 | <rbees> | any ideas? |
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| 17:43 | <rbees> | the b43 driver is installed and loaded in the kernel |
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| 17:43 | <rbees> | the wired connection works fine |
| 17:44 | <rbees> | if I take the wired nic down and then try to bring up the wifi nic the desktop icons show the wifi nic trying to access the wired nic to get dhcp |
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| 17:44 | <rbees> | have tried a couple of different front ends all with the same result |
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| 17:45 | <rbees> | and cli as root will not make it connect |
| 17:45 | <rbees> | any ideas? |
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| 18:08 | <beeman_nl> | hmmm i see a big difference in font smoothing in Debian compared to Ubuntu |
| 18:09 | <beeman_nl> | is there something I should install to get me drool over my fonts again? |
| 18:09 | <beeman_nl> | or is noone actually using debian as a desktop OS :P |
| 18:10 | <sney> | anything that ubuntu does can also be done in debian |
| 18:11 | <beeman_nl> | should be so... that's why i'm wondering what i'm missing... :) |
| 18:11 | <beeman_nl> | i notice that debian has a lot less stuff that ubuntu has default, but that may be its charme :) |
| 18:12 | <sney> | yeah there is probably just some package you're missing, I'm not sure what X/gnome/etc uses for font smoothing but it should be googleable |
| 18:13 | <beeman_nl> | haven't really found anything useful, that's why i got here... |
| 18:13 | <beeman_nl> | the most things i found are from several years ago, when font smoothing was far from default |
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| 18:14 | <bja> | beeman_nl: if you have a the ubuntu machine, you can get all the programs installed on that machine into a file, then diff it whith the ones you have on debian, it should give you a hing |
| 18:14 | <bja> | s/hing/hint |
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| 18:14 | <beeman_nl> | bja: that might be an option, thanks :) |
| 18:14 | <sney> | it's probably handled by freetype in one way or another, though |
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| 18:19 | <beeman_nl> | hmmm looks like i need to patch some libs :( http://sites.google.com/site/quanli/davidturner%27slcdcleartype-likepatchesandpackagesfordebiansid |
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| 18:21 | <sney> | I've never bothered with font antialiasing but it should be easier than that |
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| 18:21 | <sney> | maybe #xorg on irc.freenode.net would know |
| 18:21 | <beeman_nl> | should is the magic word there, i'm afraid... |
| 18:21 | <beeman_nl> | The subpixel hinting implementation in freetype2 might infringe Microsoft's ClearType patents, which is why it is disabled both upstream (by the freetype2 authors) and in the freetype2 RPM packages that ship with openSUSE. |
| 18:21 | <beeman_nl> | this is probably the issue |
| 18:21 | <retrospectacus> | beeman_nl: font smoothing is right there in "Appearance Preferences" |
| 18:22 | <beeman_nl> | retrospectacus: that's not the smoothnes i got in Ubuntu :) |
| 18:22 | <beeman_nl> | it's a major difference |
| 18:22 | <sney> | ahh yeah if there's a patent issue then debian won't have it by default. it might be in non-free or contrib, though |
| 18:22 | <retrospectacus> | even in the "details..." dialog? |
| 18:23 | <beeman_nl> | retrospectacus: yeah, i set it just the way i set my other machines, still looks nothing like how i would like it :) |
| 18:23 | <beeman_nl> | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=38534&start=15 might check this out :) |
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| 18:29 | <beeman_nl> | thanks for the support guys, i'll figure this one out later :) |
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| 18:34 | <bwampler> | is there a meta-package with the default debian packages you get on an install by clicking desktop/ standard/ server/ etc? |
| 18:35 | <bja> | Stupid dns question, what is the line i have to append to /etc/resolv.conf to add a dns server |
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| 18:36 | <bja> | forget it, found it :) |
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| 18:51 | <vhann> | Is there a way to get sshd to allow connecting from any computer on a selected user but only allow pubkey authentication for other users? |
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| 18:59 | <jdeka> | vhann: Take a look at the 'Match' directive in the sshd_config man page. Try disabling password auth globally and allowing it for that user in a Match directive. |
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| 19:04 | <vhann> | jdeka: I'll check that. But is there any other, more secure way of allowing any pc access? |
| 19:04 | <jdeka> | I'm not sure what you mean. SSH allows connections from any machine by default. |
| 19:04 | <jdeka> | At least in debian |
| 19:05 | <vhann> | jdeka: Well, I want something similar to pubkey except for the need of a private key |
| 19:05 | <vhann> | Or rather |
| 19:05 | <vhann> | with a private key that can be used from any pc |
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| 19:06 | <vhann> | I'm also checking challenge-response, but that seems to need external PAM modules |
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| 19:07 | <jdeka> | Oh, OK. Pubkey auth works that way by default. It will only be restricted to a specific host if you provide a "from" statement in the user's authorized_keys file. |
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| 19:08 | <hellyeah> | getü |
| 19:08 | <hellyeah> | ,sorry |
| 19:08 | <hellyeah> | hey |
| 19:08 | <hellyeah> | http://paste.org/pastebin/view/15342 |
| 19:09 | <vhann> | jdeka: So, I should delete the '== user@host' at the end of the line? |
| 19:09 | <hellyeah> | how can i fix this error |
| 19:09 | <hellyeah> | pls help me |
| 19:10 | <jdeka> | No. the == is actually part of the key, and the user@host is just a comment to remind you what the key belongs to. |
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| 19:10 | <jdeka> | If there is nothing that looks like from="<IP>" at the beginning of the line, it should allow access from any host. |
| 19:10 | <vhann> | jdeka: Wait, "user's authorized_keys file": is that on the server or on the client? |
| 19:11 | <jdeka> | That's on the server |
| 19:11 | <jdeka> | Usually at $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 19:11 | <vhann> | jdeka: Hum nice, I'll try that |
| 19:13 | <vhann> | Thanks btw |
| 19:14 | <jdeka> | np |
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| 19:15 | <two> | sup? |
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| 19:17 | <two_camels_in_a_tiny_car> | I dont even like vaginas |
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| 19:28 | <zem> | hi |
| 19:29 | <zem> | i just installed debian stable and there is no sound, everything seems fine, but no sound at all |
| 19:30 | <zem> | if i run alsaconf as root i get "Volume Control" has quit unexpectedly |
| 19:30 | <hellyeah> | pls |
| 19:30 | <hellyeah> | someone help |
| 19:31 | <retrospectacus> | !errors |
| 19:31 | <dpkg> | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. |
| 19:31 | <hellyeah> | http://paste.org/pastebin/view/15342 |
| 19:31 | <hellyeah> | i can nıot initializ compiz |
| 19:32 | <retrospectacus> | hellyeah: you should ask #compiz on irc.freenode.net, they will be more likely to have your solutions |
| 19:32 | <hellyeah> | hmm |
| 19:32 | <hellyeah> | i have one other problem |
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| 19:32 | <hellyeah> | may be you can answer |
| 19:33 | <hellyeah> | how can i fix that |
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| 19:33 | <hellyeah> | Window manager warning: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply t |
| 19:33 | <hellyeah> | imeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) |
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| 19:33 | <retrospectacus> | not me |
| 19:33 | <retrospectacus> | someone here may know about that |
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| 19:36 | <retrospectacus> | appears to be the same problem as your compiz problem. |
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| 19:38 | <hellyeah> | hmm |
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| 20:29 | <UselessWolf> | heyho |
| 20:29 | <UselessWolf> | anyone know a better cp than ispcp`? |
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| 20:46 | <Anthony> | ok i pulled out the wireless card and it installs for quite a bit then hangs at the "Installed Locales" part of the installation |
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| 20:46 | <Anthony> | what the hell is it now |
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| 20:48 | <dbuebe> | How do I turn on logging in a DHCP3 server? |
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| 20:49 | <UselessWolf> | o.o |
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| 21:04 | <musca> | UselessWolf: a short websearch may lead you to syscp |
| 21:04 | <UselessWolf> | is syscp good? |
| 21:05 | <UselessWolf> | i am doing websearch |
| 21:05 | <UselessWolf> | but i couldnt figure out whats a really good one |
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| 21:09 | <musca> | UselessWolf: do you speak german? |
| 21:09 | <UselessWolf> | is my english that bad ;D |
| 21:09 | <UselessWolf> | but yes i do ^^ |
| 21:10 | <musca> | UselessWolf: http://www.wewota.de/webspace-server-f15/syscp-vs-rest-welt-t116/p1.html |
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| 21:14 | <UselessWolf> | danke |
| 21:14 | <musca> | gerne |
| 21:14 | <UselessWolf> | das ist mal nen guter vergleich ^^ |
| 21:14 | <abrotman> | !de |
| 21:14 | <dpkg> | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 21:15 | <UselessWolf> | okay |
| 21:15 | <UselessWolf> | thanks that helps a lot musca |
| 21:15 | <UselessWolf> | better? |
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| 21:19 | <vantage> | hi all, I'm having all sorts of issues with lvm and grub2. I'm running sid and on my latest upgrade grub2 started throwing errors and wouldn't boot. So I booted off a live CD, chrooted my drive, re-ran grub-install and it fixed it. Now it boots, but can't find my LVM on any kernel above 2.6.29. 2.6.29 works and finds my root lvm, but the lvm tools no longer work (lvdisplay, etc). |
| 21:19 | <vantage> | Any idea about what's changed in grub? |
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| 21:20 | <vantage> | I was using 2.6.31 prior to the upgrade (which also installed 2.6.32). But that and 2.6.30 no longer boot, however, 2.6.29 does... |
| 21:20 | <vantage> | I get "unable to find lvm" on the newer kernels |
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| 21:21 | <vantage> | under 2.6.29 the device is in /dev/mapper and mounts no problem. |
| 21:21 | <abrotman> | vantage: known issue, i think... check the BTS |
| 21:21 | <abrotman> | !dbugs 567637 |
| 21:21 | <dpkg> | DONE:#567637:G[grub-pc] grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem -- fails to boot from ext3 (); Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:30:02 UTC [567618 568777] |
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| 21:22 | <chiqui> | help |
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| 21:23 | <chiqui> | request i/o error in my hard disk |
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| 21:23 | <chiqui> | /dev/sda9 |
| 21:23 | <chiqui> | i dont know what mean |
| 21:23 | <chiqui> | help |
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| 21:29 | <vantage> | abrotman: I'm using the "fixed" version, but the issue I'm having seems different as well |
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| 21:30 | <vantage> | abrotman: wait, maybe not |
| 21:30 | <chiqui> | hey please |
| 21:30 | <abrotman> | hey please ? |
| 21:31 | <abrotman> | chiqui: normally, that means the device is failing |
| 21:32 | <chiqui> | abrotman: when i type aptitude update he says error i/o request |
| 21:32 | <chiqui> | i cant execute any command |
| 21:33 | <abrotman> | chiqui: very bad |
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| 21:35 | <chiqui> | i dont know why that happened because like a week all was funtional |
| 21:35 | <chiqui> | my english is soo bad |
| 21:35 | <chiqui> | sorry |
| 21:35 | <streuner> | chiqui: sid? |
| 21:35 | <chiqui> | streuner: lenny |
| 21:38 | <blackdream> | hello everyone ,I need some help,how can I mount my ext4 filesystem?I found that debian can't read my ext4file system. |
| 21:38 | <blackdream> | debian 5 |
| 21:39 | <abrotman> | chiqui: it really implies a hardware issue |
| 21:39 | <abrotman> | blackdream: it can .. but not with the .26 kernel in lenny .. /msg dpkg bpo |
| 21:39 | <chiqui> | there is no chance that my OS do that damaged to my device? |
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| 21:41 | <streuner> | chiqui: happend to me onces, because of a wrong driver which i made myself (kernel) |
| 21:41 | <abrotman> | i have no idea what the device is .. i suppose it's possible your floppy drive turned into a laser and burned a hole through your HDD .. but i'm no physicist ... |
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| 21:41 | <blackdream> | I install "ubuntu" with second hardisk,and the filesystem is all "ext4"..... |
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| 21:42 | <chiqui> | is a serial ATA maxtor |
| 21:42 | <abrotman> | so .. not a laser .. |
| 21:42 | <blackdream> | but debian can't read it... |
| 21:42 | <abrotman> | blackdream: i told you what to do |
| 21:43 | <streuner> | chiqui: do you have smartmontools installed? |
| 21:43 | <chiqui> | he says error and cant mount him |
| 21:43 | <chiqui> | that tool |
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| 21:44 | <blackdream> | have to back to ubuntu...T_T |
| 21:45 | <chealer> | blackdream: you'd need to use a Linux version with ext4 support. you probably want a 2.6.30 backport. |
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| 21:46 | <blackdream> | when I install the 2.6.32.* kernel......I can't boot my debian with the newest kernel...... |
| 21:47 | <chiqui> | when i start the server he says |
| 21:47 | <blackdream> | I install *.deb |
| 21:47 | <blackdream> | from the http://kernel.ubuntu.com |
| 21:47 | <chiqui> | WARNING about a S.M.A.R.T. |
| 21:47 | <abrotman> | !tell blackdream about bpo |
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| 21:59 | <blackdream> | XD.....backports.....thank U |
| 21:59 | <blackdream> | I'm sorry my english is poor........thank U very muck....XD |
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| 22:43 | <bombadil_> | is there any way to make a program use multithreading, or must the program be written for it specifically? |
| 22:44 | <bombadil_> | nevermind |
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