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---Logopened Wed Feb 10 00:00:18 2010
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00:16<d3co>!hi
00:16<dpkg>hello, d3co
00:16<d3co>IDE for gcc?
00:17<d3co>?
00:17<d3co>?
00:17<d3co>?
00:19<kmap>!tell d3co about search
00:19<d3co>please!
00:20<d3co>Its late I need to sleep :)
00:21<kfank>I cannot seem to get fetchmail to work with gmail. I have tried several online instructions without success yet. When I start verbose mode I get: kfank@toshlt-debian:~$ fetchmail -d0 -v pop.gmail.com
00:21<kfank>Enter password for kfank@pop.gmail.com:
00:21<kfank>fetchmail: 6.3.9-rc2 querying pop.gmail.com (protocol auto) at Tue 09 Feb 2010 06:15:34 PM PST: poll started
00:21<kfank>fetchmail: 6.3.9-rc2 querying pop.gmail.com (protocol IMAP) at Tue 09 Feb 2010 06:15:34 PM PST: poll started
00:21-!-kfank was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
00:21<kop>d3co: emacs
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00:23<kfank>Has anyone got fetchmail going with gmail?
00:23<d3co>thx kop I gonna see !
00:24<kop>!tell kfank about pastebin
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00:26<norbert>hi, I'm looking for libguicast
00:27<norbert>I tried apt-file and apt-cache and Google, but can't really find the proper source/website
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00:33<norbert_>!bot
00:33<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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00:34<d3co>!bye
00:34<dpkg>Cya, d3co
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00:34<dbldtx>Problematic: I just installed Debian Netinst on a Compaq Presario 2100 laptop. I did not choose the "desktop environment" as one of my SOFTWARE TO INSTALLs.
00:34<norbert_>dpkg where is libguicast
00:34<dpkg>I think you lost me on that one, norbert_
00:34<dbldtx>Booting into my system for the first time, I installed iceWM and XDM...
00:35<dbldtx>...I cannot run XDM or iceWM once logged in - what do I have to install if I would like a desktop? XServer? ANything else? X.org?
00:35<norbert_>xserver-xorg
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00:35<norbert_>xorg - X.Org X Window System
00:36<dbldtx>Thanks norbert!
00:36<kop>dbldtx: Generally xorg is broader. You probably pulled in something like gdm automatically already.
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00:36<dbldtx>Hmmm
00:36<dbldtx>Thank yo uall
00:36<dbldtx>I hope I will not brb
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00:43<kfank>Can someone assist with fetchmail on gmail? See http://paste.debian.net/59353 for my config.
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00:56<ablock>hello. I would like to report a bug and don't know which pakage the bug belongs to...is there some kind of "i-don't-know" pakage for this case?
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00:58<ablock>i got the problem that debian goes into suspend2ram mode when i plug off the ac adapter after some idle time. for example, if the laptop is running for 10 minutes without user interaction and i plug off the cable, it immediatly goes into suspend2ram
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00:59<ablock>this is a bad thing in my case, as my laptop does not wake up again (which is another bug)
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01:21<chealer>ablock: are you sure that's a bug?
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01:35<blackfail>talk about something??
01:35<blackfail>i use ubuntu sometimes
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01:39<ablock>chealer, even if it's not a bug, i don't think most people would like that ;)
01:40<ablock>when the cable is plugged in, the laptop never goes into suspend...which is desired due to the "performance" profile
01:40<ablock>if you unplug it, you would never expect it to go into suspend
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01:43<chealer>ablock: I'd expect my laptop to halt if I leave it unplugged and unattended for a "long time". I'd prefer the OS to shut it down before the battery dies. and I'd prefer a suspend if resuming is possible. I may also prefer that suspend to be early, in some cases.
01:44<chealer>ablock: that said, if you want to file a bug and you don't know which package, you can use the general pseudo-package
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01:45<ablock>chealer, yeah that's also what i suspect. but the laptop is plugged und suspends immediatly after unplugging
01:45<ablock>i would suspect it to suspend after some time, but not immediatly
01:47<chealer>ablock: OOOH
01:47<ablock>imagine you have the laptop lying around somewhere, plugged in. the display and everything stays on due to the performance profile. then you want to move the laptop and just unplug it for 10 seconds...it will already suspend after 1 second, that's not expected behaviour
01:48<chealer>ablock: now that sounds like a bug I may have witnessed myself
01:48<ablock>hehe
01:49<ablock>do you know which package handles the power profiles?
01:49<chealer>ablock: I failed to report it, didn't check whether it was reported neither. the problem is I never understood in which conditions it happened. what you're saying makes sense. I'll test it.
01:49<ablock>maybe that's the package where it belongs to
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01:51<chealer>ablock: I could check, but there may be several packages that could do it
01:51<chealer>ablock: sorry and thanks
01:52<ablock>you still want me to report it or will you do that?
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01:52<chealer>ablock: if you let me verify we're getting the same bug, I could report it
01:52<ablock>ok cool
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01:53<ablock>you're a debian dev?
01:53<chealer>ablock: feel free to send chealer@gmail.com an email to remind me, I'll follow up to you
01:53<chealer>ablock: not an uppercase Debian Developer, no
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01:56<ablock>sent you a mail with the chat log
01:56<chealer>ablock: thanks
01:58<ablock>cheers. gonna get some sleep now :) cya
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02:00<mib_leslfyo2grky>Hey Guys, is there a tool/way for logging file access (read & write) via Ldap?
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02:08<the-dude>mib_leslfyo2grky: you mean query logging?
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02:41<bitzor>hello there
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02:47<hellyeah>hello mello kello
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03:05<jmm>hi.
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03:45<NoReflex>Hello! Why does the kernel reserve 1 GB of memory for itself in a 32 bit environment? I have a machine with 4 CPU's (32 bit) and 32 GB of RAM and I've read a single process can access a maximum of 3 GB instead of 4 GB of memory.
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03:46<jm_>http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450
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03:53<tenzind>hi, I am using Debian Squeeze/testing on my laptop. I found out that CTRL+ALT+Backspace doesnt restart X. What could my problem be?
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03:53<gsimmons>dpkg: tell tenzind -about dontzap
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03:54<tenzind>gsimmons, thanks :)
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03:57<NoReflex>jm_: I've read the article but I still don't get what does the kernel do with a GB of memory from each process. If I have 6 processes does it mean the kernel will reserve 6 GB of RAM for itself?
03:59<jm_>NoReflex: no
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04:10<mrnice> dpkg: tell mrnice -about dontzap
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04:10<babilen>!tell mrnice -about selftell
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04:11<mrnice>babilen, thx
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04:14<babilen>mrnice: np - good look with getting zapping to work :-)
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04:53<godsDeliverance>exec -o sleep 2;cat /dev/urandom | fold -w 400
04:53<godsDeliverance>oops
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04:53<godsDeliverance>\xFFy*z\x91\xEB /1\xB3\x9D\\xF1_I%)/ \xEBLB\xD7QJ\xF7$\xECk{\xF4\xEF\xC6^\xDF
04:53<godsDeliverance>š0¥¥ª†îÌÞF?½^´b*¸ä¡ËF2Ìçã`Ø£‡
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04:53<godsDeliverance>+õ%
04:53<godsDeliverance>èmìYýiÏì¬@¿"ö“º’¾‰z\ÓÏ
04:53<godsDeliverance>\x93$>\xDB<\x86g\xF5\xCE\xF6\x9Dk\xE9 \xCDE\x98\x8F\xA6.\xD7t\xF7\x96\xF7¯T\xB0=_\x89\x85Ƚ\xB8\xA0<\xC1\xD7\xE5\xE4\xCFd\xE1\xF3a\xCA_\xE0L\xBF?\xF8\xA2\x97?baSJf\xAE\xB6h\xC7\xF6\x84_\xA5\x94\xAE)趿\xF0
04:54<petemc>godsDeliverance: stop that
04:54<godsDeliverance>}b/$\x9DRc9;\x82\x91
04:54<godsDeliverance>V‹µW:ëìkÐUê8_Á”òò6áRu¦
04:54<godsDeliverance>:;\x84($\xC1 \xB6\x8Fex\xD3.\x89yeR\xAA_\xA7
04:54<godsDeliverance>kwj9\xFE\xFF\xB5Ҟ\xDCWG\xBCH 5\xB6\xFE򮁩\x93\xB1\xC3E \xC0\xE9\xE9\xE5&l;\xD6\x86\xE9W \x82ԛǂ 7\xED\xFFr\x88\xB5\xDEݚa/\x967\xE6\xF1M=\x82\xB3\xC8zJ}?\x97\x88\x8A\xAA\xABob\x87\xF6I%\xE59e(_\x84\xBF
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04:54<godsDeliverance>aM\xEE\xFB\xC06 ]\xF0\xFDaQ\xAF臩A\x81
04:54<petemc>!ops godsDeliverance is a tool
04:54<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: petemc complains about: godsDeliverance is a tool
04:54<godsDeliverance>\‚ BÆ µA’#qð6Ì8Î9TÈÌÚàÂÐ
04:54<godsDeliverance>\xF7D}\xD30<\x8Bʚ\xF9\x8A\xF1\xE3\\xEEC\xEBMD"\xA9\xC6t\xA4B\xC1\xBF\x88\xD7>\xD9\xD4\xD7-\xF6\xF9\xA5\x90
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04:54<godsDeliverance>7+
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04:55<Myon>themill: good idea
04:55<@themill>Sorry tor users... it's just out of hand. Contact ops for an exception if you are a regular and can't use some other means of connecting.
04:55-!-mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill
04:55<tenzind>I executed "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answered Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server. But it still doesn't terminate the X server
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04:57<tenzind>I am using Debian squeeze
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05:20<jmut>how can I see example changes a package does with update-alternatives?
05:20<jmut>I wanna see for example java or php ..what they do with update-alternatives during install of package
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05:27<jm_>jmut: why?
05:27<jm_>it's in postinst anyway
05:28<jmut>jm_: I have no clue what postinst and stuff is. I wanna see what exactly a package is doing
05:28<jm_>jmut: ok if you have no clue what that is then it won't make sense anyway
05:29<jmut>very helpful. thanks
05:29<ghantoos>jmut: you can get the source parckage and check out the post/pre install scripts in the debian deirectory
05:29<ghantoos>jmut: apt-get source <yourpackage>
05:30<ghantoos>jmut: then cd <sourcedir>/debian
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05:30<jmut>ghantoos: great thanks.
05:31<ghantoos>jmut: you're welcome
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06:33<dTal>Hi folks, I'm having some difficulty compiling libcairo2 from source and I was wondering if someone could shed some light onto it
06:35<dTal>It seems dpkg-buildpackage believes that libdirectfb-dev >= 0.9.25 is an unsatisfied dependency
06:36<dTal>Yet I have libdirectfb-dev 1.4.1-2
06:37<dTal>I'm fairly sure the original package was compiled against libdirectfb-dev 1.2, so I don't think it's an epoch thing.
06:39<dTal>(I am using a mix of sid and experimental on armel so I suppose I am asking for trouble a bit)
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07:08<dTal>Never mind, seems it wasn't configured.
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07:16<Phurl>do i need to fill out manpage.sgml.ex and xml.ex?
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07:33<Wilthril>hi all
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07:36<Wilthril>I have a chinese friend who wants to go to an unrestricted internet using my computer (i'm in france) as a relay, and with data encryption between my computer and his. Which software between squid and openvpn do you recommend?
07:36<Phurl>tor
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07:37<Phurl>Wilthril, tor
07:37<Wilthril>I'm running debian (the server), and he's running windows
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07:37<Wilthril>well tor is very slow, i don't think he can watch videos on youtube flawlessly
07:37<Phurl>ahhh
07:37<Phurl>you can use ssh and make a tunnel
07:38<Wilthril>yeah youtube is banned in china :)
07:38<Phurl>that would be simple
07:38<Phurl>the p0rntube tunnel
07:38<Phurl>:)
07:38<Wilthril>and what does the cliend need then?
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07:39<ansgar>Wilthril: I would use OpenVPN for this. It will probably make less problems when he's not only using HTTP.
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07:42<Supaplex>Wilthril: ssh -D ftw
07:43<jm_>ssh -D should be easy with windows
07:44<Supaplex>putty'll do it
07:44<client04_>hg
07:44<client04_>gh
07:44<Supaplex>or cygwin
07:44<client04_>lh knl
07:44<client04_>hy
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07:48<Wilthril>ok so he'll need to run putty if he needs to connect to my computer...
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07:49<jm_>or openvpn or ...
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07:51<Wilthril>yeah i've googled ssh tunnels and i think i need squid if he wants web browsing so...
07:51<Wilthril>i guess i'll stick with openvpn then :)
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07:52<supaman>hey, I just upgraded gracie to version 0.2.10 and now for several minutes there has been a process identified as gracied which is taking up all my processing power ... any ideas why this is? is it updating some database or is this some bug?
07:58<supaman>ahh, after strace on the process its the same as bug 568385
07:58<supaman>so is it "safe" to kill the process?
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08:27<Wilthril>yeah thanks a lot actually a ssh tunnel does the trick
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08:27<Wilthril>much easier than expected woohoo :D
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08:28<Lantizia>Love The Debian
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08:41<pedrin>holaaa
08:41<pedrin>ai alguien?
08:41<nothingmore>!es
08:41<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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08:42<pedrin>weno
08:42<pedrin>ne voyç
08:42<pedrin>xD
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08:42<pedrin>eto ta pelao
08:42<pedrin>holaaaaaaaaa
08:42<pedrin>ai alguien?
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09:53<Rovanion>Hello there lads, I want to do some settings to my synaptics touch pad and since it seems like touching Xorg.conf makes no difference I'm looking for some sort of UI to do these settings. I'm currently in KDE 3.5 and there seems to be no settings available there. And I can't find gpointing-device-settings in the repos. What do I do?
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10:00<abrotman>you mean gsynaptics?
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10:02<supaman>With X.org 7.4, you might rather consider to use gpointing-device-settings, which is modern replacement for gsynaptics.
10:02<supaman>from the description for gsynaptics
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10:02<gsimmons>Rovanion: Which isn't packaged for Lenny.
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10:04<Rovanion>Pardon me, I was watching another channel
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10:04<Rovanion>The Gnome Pointing Device Settings was what I did not find
10:05<Rovanion>I will try again...
10:06<Rovanion>gsimmons, Okey, is it because Lenny has a too old Xorg?
10:07<gsimmons>Rovanion: Just use gsynaptics. Note that you will need to configure xorg.conf for its use.
10:08<Rovanion>gsimmons, Seems like you don't enjoy questions but, what should I add to Xorg for gsynaptics to work?
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10:10<gsimmons>Rovanion: See /usr/share/doc/gsynaptics/README after package installation for the relevant configuration.
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10:16<khades>how to make all java apps in lenny look like gtk2?
10:16<khades>and have antialiased fonts
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10:16<oigres>What does the message: program wdm tried to access /dev/mem between 100000->140000 means and how do I fix it?
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10:20<oigres>What does the message: "program wdm tried to access /dev/mem between 100000->140000" means and how do I fix it?
10:24<Rovanion>gsimmons, In the README it says that I have to add a not specified line to .xinit or .xsession but locate doesn't find either on my filesystem
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10:32<babilen>Rovanion: You can just create them
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10:32<babilen>!tell Rovanion -about xsession
10:33<Rovanion>Does KDM use .xsession?
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10:34<@weasel>if you tell it to
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10:35<Rovanion>Is there any built in way of configuring what applications are started when I log into KDE with KDM and how do I put gsynaptics in it?
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10:36<xente>so, it seems that cups was orphaned recently (it appears as a local package) can someone tell me why?
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10:38<babilen>Rovanion: I guess you have to find KDE's autostart configuration - I have never used KDE so I am not much help :-\
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10:39<Rovanion>There is nothing to help me within the settings manager,
10:40<Rovanion>So what am I to do?
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10:42<Rovanion>Guess all I can do is restart X and see if it works...
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10:42<babilen>Rovanion: Ask in #debian-kde (OFTC) or #kde at irc.freenode.net
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10:44<babilen>xente: Why do you think that cups was orphaned? It is maintained by the "Debian CUPS maintainers" group
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10:47<xente>babilen: maybe orphaned is the wrong word here, I don't mean the project was orphaned....it was not located in my squeeze repo anymore and was considered a local or absolete package
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10:49<babilen>xente: I don't see what you mean ..
10:50<themill>,versions cups
10:50<judd>cups -- etch-backports: 1.3.8-1lenny4~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.3.8-1+lenny7; lenny-security: 1.3.8-1+lenny7; squeeze: 1.4.2-4; sid: 1.4.2-7.1
10:50<themill>xente: should be in all repos still
10:50<xente>then maybe I screwed up my system
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10:50<xente>i'll figure it out...thanks to all
10:51<themill>xente: check your sources.list, perhaps pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy"
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10:52<xente>I have had sid and squeeze together in my sources but pinned at different priorities...maybe that's it
10:52<babilen>Probably ...
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11:02<xente>is there a tool simpler than wget to download individual debian packages?
11:03<berto>xente: apt-get -d install ?
11:03<xente>berto: I mean from different releases, say
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11:03<xente>such as <get> some_package from squeeze repo
11:04<ZoN3x>hi, i have problems installing xvidcap
11:04<ZoN3x>its a library problem
11:04<ZoN3x>"error while loading shared libraries: libavdevice.so.52: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
11:04<ZoN3x>someone can help me
11:04<ZoN3x>?
11:04<berto>xente: I guess with 'apt-get -t'
11:05<xente>berto: I didn't even see that, thanks
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11:08<xente>so, I think that since I had both sid and squeeze packages installed, I am messing up my config...is there an easy way to downgrade all of my sig packages back to squeeze?
11:10<supaman>ZoN3x: do you have the libavdevice52 package installed?
11:11<father0fnine>So in a nutshell.. what is backports.debian-maintainers.org? Are these fixes and features in testing/unstable that people have made available for Lenny -- even through lenny is "frozen"?
11:12<berto>xente: downgrade? I don't think there's any easy way
11:12<xente>berto: that's what I was afraid of
11:12<ZoN3x>supaman: no, how I install that package ?
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11:13<ZoN3x>with apt ?
11:13<xente>but if I knew which packages specifically to downgrade, is there an easy way to fetch them, even with wget?
11:13<supaman>ZoN3x: yup
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11:14<berto>xente: I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were one :)
11:14<xente>thanks for the help
11:15<xente>I wouldn't be surprised either
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11:16<babilen>!tell xente -about partial downgrade
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11:17<babilen>xente: I also downgraded sid to testing once, by pinning testing's priority to something >1000 (i.e 1001) and let aptitude downgrade the packages.
11:17<xente>babilen: I will try that...thanks again
11:17<babilen>!what repo
11:17<dpkg>it has been said that repo is a repository (mirrors), where debian package archives are stored.
11:18<abrotman>!which repo
11:18<dpkg>To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bpo list>
11:18<babilen>abrotman: thanks :-)
11:18<ZoN3x>supaman: thanks
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11:19<babilen>xente: Please run the one-liner given above and append '| grep sid' in the end and paste that output to a pastebin
11:20<babilen>xente: We will know how many and which packages you will have to downgrade ..
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11:21<xente>babilen: I think I just figured it out...aptitude is working something for me...tell me what you think of this, when you uninstall localepurge it tells you how to reinstall all of the packages on your system...so I pinned testing to 1001 and ran that command
11:21<xente>when I did the command above you suggested, nothing came out
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11:21<xente>so, I wonder if I have done it....
11:22<Rovanion>My Xorg settings for my synaptics touchpad have no effect. As showcased in this paste I have SHMConfig set to true as it should be but when running the synclient command I get errors nudging that it's off: http://pastebin.org/89550
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11:23<babilen>xente: I don't follow you .. You pinned testing to priority > 1001, downgraded (successfully?) and ran the 'which repo' command *afterwards* ?
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11:24<xente>so, I pinned testing > 1001, per your suggestion....then I ran sudo apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '
11:24<xente>' | sort -u)
11:24<xente>when I run the suggestion from !which repo... I get nothing that is in sid anymore
11:25<xente>babilen: does that make sense?
11:26<babilen>Where is the 'apt-get --reinstall ...' command from?
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11:27<xente>when you uninstall localepurge, that's what it suggests you do to reinstall all of your packages with locale information
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11:28<xente>probably not the most elegant solution, but perhaps it will work
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11:28<babilen>I don't quite see how the uninstallation of localepurge is related to downgrading .. But yes, you probably reinstalled a couple of packages from squeeze. But I think you've lost the information about automatic installs
11:29<babilen>xente: Have you already done that?
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11:29<xente>babilen: it's doing it's thing right now...I didn't consider that it would loose the information about automatic installs
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11:30<xente>uninstalling localepurge doesn't have anything to do with downgrading but it was something I noticed a while back
11:30<xente>because I wouldn't have know how to work that command without its suggestion
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11:31<babilen>Ok, it is running now .. let's hope for the best. :-\
11:31<xente>fingers are crossed
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11:37<xente>I assume once you destroy the automatic installation data, there is no way to synthesize it again....
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11:38<kop>xente: You can use aptitude markauto to mark them manually. Just generate a list of everything installed and delete the ones you want noauto.
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11:39<xente>ok
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11:39<kop>xente: Then: cat packagelist | xargs aptitude markauto
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11:40<xente>kop: good idea, I will try that
11:40<babilen>xente: aptitude reinstall keeps that information, I am just not sure about apt-get ... But it might just be OK
11:40<xente>babilen: I see your point
11:40<babilen>xente: Investigate the issue first before running something like that, ok?
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11:40<xente>babilen: sounds good. thanks
11:41<babilen>xente: How is it going?
11:41<xente>babilen: it just finished
11:41<xente>I'm not sure but I think every package is marked as manual
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11:42<babilen>xente: Ok, the world is still in one piece. That's a good sign. What about your OS?
11:42<xente>babilen: everything is running smoothley
11:42<xente>smoothly
11:42<babilen>ok
11:42<xente>thanks for your help!
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11:44<babilen>Be a bit more patient the next time and don't execute commands you found somewhere. I would, for example, have liked to investigate how many packages you had installed from sid.
11:44<xente>sounds good...I really only had a few packages from sid...the pin number was really low...like 10
11:45<babilen>It now looks as if you ran the 'which repo | grep sid' command *before* any package was downgraded, correct?
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11:45<DingGGu^LinuX>d
11:45<xente>yep
11:45<babilen>xente: And there where no packages?
11:45<xente>babilen: there were no packages from sid
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11:46*babilen wonders which packages you downgraded then
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11:47<xente>I had a few that I think I changed just before I tried the downgrade such as remmina, epiphany-extensions, brasero-common....etc
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11:48<simonft>how do I find the last exit code?
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11:49<melmothX>simonft: $?
11:49<babilen>simonft: 'echo $?'
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11:50<simonft>babilen: melmothX thanks
11:50<babilen>np
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12:03<serge>Hello! I've applied some patches to postfix source of Etch distributin. Now I want to put this build to my own repository, so I want the version of package(s) would differ from the native(s) one, i.e. postfix_2.3.8-2+VDA+etch1 instead of postfix_2.3.8-2+etch1 . Where can I enable this? I've read maint-guide, but didn't figure it out.
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12:30<father0fnine>What is this "Score" from aptitude?
12:34<koollman>father0fnine: it's a way for aptitude to choose which solution is 'preferable'. counting the number of additions, removal, upgrades and such with specific scores for each ones
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12:34<koollman>not very useful for humans (but a very bad score indicates something's wrong)
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12:44<father0fnine>ahh.. ty
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12:46<Aquariano>ola]
12:47<babilen>hi
12:47<mib_bja>!es
12:47<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:47<Aquariano>i'am brazil
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12:48<babilen>Aquariano: Are you looking for a channel in portuguese? You can also stay here and use English :-)
12:48<babilen>:-(
12:49<giupy>when i startx with my user i recive this: error setting MTRR (base = 0xd0000000, size = 0x08000000, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)..... and X doesn't start, if i use root X starts, i have sid and 2.6.32 precompiled, it happends with old kernels too, it seems a permission problem but i din't have it before the ugrade
12:49<babilen>giupy: Anything in the BTS?
12:50<giupy>BTS?
12:50<babilen>!bts
12:50<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges
12:50<giupy>ok, dunno not seen
12:51<babilen>Have a look - The issue might have been reported already
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12:54<clocker>Anyone deal with audio book library downloads in the proprietary *.odm file format?
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13:06<father0fnine>What package would have firmware files for e100?
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13:08<sney>e100 needs firmware now? probably firmware-linux
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13:13<craigevil>father0fnine:apt-file search e100 returns firmware-linux-nonfree: /lib/firmware/e100/d101m_ucode.bin
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13:19<bremner>is it me, or does gpg-agent --enable-ssh-support not support deleting keys? (Lenny)
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13:30<father0fnine>craigevil: Kewl! Thanks.
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13:55<bittin>some Xorg elite here?
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13:58<sney>bittin: try #xorg on freenode
13:58<bittin>i have an extra screen into my eeepc but when i use startx it sets both screens as 800x600 and when i change resulotion wmii looks wierd :( what can i do to change this?
13:58<sney>and please don't crosspost
13:58<amphi>bittin: did you try fiddling with xrandr?
13:58<bittin>amphi: no i don't know how to use xrandr but was trying to use lxrandr but it maked it wierd :(
13:59<bittin>sney: sorry
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14:03<knoppix_>help
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14:04<bja>!knoppix
14:04<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
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14:45-!-EagleSn is "Rafael Belmonte" on %#debian-qt-kde #debian-mentors #debian %#debian-devel #debian-kde
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14:48<pedrin>hola
14:48<pedrin>e
14:48<pedrin>agun español?
14:48<pedrin>no
14:48<pedrin>xD
14:48<pedrin>dwe
14:48<pedrin>dew
14:48<pedrin>zorry
14:48<pedrin>xD
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14:48<pedrin>dew
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14:52-!-Lethalman is "Luca Bruno" on @#apt2 #debian-gnome #debian-apt %#debian-devel #debian-it #debian
14:55<nadie>hi! anyone compiling kernels in Debian way?
14:56<kmap>nadie: Ask away, someone might know.
14:56<kmap>!ask
14:56<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:56<bittin>http://pastebin.com/f39fda15e got that error now when trying to start Xorg
14:58<kmap>bittin: Which version are you using?
14:58<EagleScreen>nadie: i have done it
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14:58<nadie>I've compiled a kernel from sources with make-dpkg. It has generated 2 debs, kernel and headers. The kernel boots and works perfectly, but now I'm trying to add a module with m-a and I can't. Might be I've forgotten any command at the creation of headers deb or something? Thanks
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14:58<kmap>bittin: #567491 seems related?
14:59<crappy>ive having some trouble with gnome
14:59<kmap>nadie: Is the link to the kernel sources correct? And have you installed the headers package?
14:59<bittin>kmap: 1.7.4
14:59<nadie>yes
14:59<bittin>was trying to compile a never version of wmii but think i failed
14:59<GandalfTheGrey>crappy go to #debian-gnome channel ;)
15:00<crappy>darm
15:00<crappy>hehe
15:00<kmap>bittin: Sorry, I am unable to help. :-(
15:00<EagleScreen>yes nadie, you need linux-kbuild or kernel-sources
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15:01<bittin>openbox started without a problem tough so must be me that failed at compiling wmii
15:01<bittin>kmap: :o ok
15:02<nadie>linux-kbuild? i thougt it was enought with headers package
15:02<EagleScreen>nadie: add --initrd binary to make-kpkg
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15:02<EagleScreen>it will create also linux-source package, it is needed to build certain modules
15:02<nadie>i've done. the problem aint on kernel-image
15:02<bittin>http://bittin.linuxuser.se/wmiibug.png :( has wierd bugs it thinks its 800x600 even when i change to 1024x800 readed it might work with a never wmii that is not in Debian tough :(
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15:03<EagleScreen>nadie: try installin the linux-source package
15:03<kmap>EagleScreen: That won't really help, since nadie already has the sources, while linux-source fetches the Debian kernel sources?
15:03<kmap>(or so I thought? I may be wrong)
15:04<nadie>so if I have to keep the sources I downloaded, what is the headers package for?
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15:04<EagleScreen>i mean the the linux-source-xxx.deb created by their compilation
15:05<kmap>I was also under the impression that the headers package was sufficient; maybe I was wrong.
15:05<nadie>linux-headers-XXXXX created by make-dpkg is installed
15:05<EagleScreen>linux-headers is not always enought for all kernel modules
15:06<EagleScreen>some modules need linux-kbuild or if linux-kbuild is not available, linux-source
15:06<nadie>The problem (I think) is that headers package doesn't keep the whole sorce code, cos vanilla compressed file is 50 odd Mb and created headers deb is 16
15:07-!-mode/#debian [+l 387] by debhelper
15:07<EagleScreen>what module are you building nadie?
15:07<nadie>so I wanted to know if I forgot any command or config for saving all sources into headers deb, not just for the modules I've configured in .config
15:07<nadie>ath5k
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15:09<EagleScreen>nadie: did you build the sources .deb for your compiled kernel?
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15:13<bittin>Wilthril: 15
15:13<bittin>sorry wrong tabbed :(
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15:14<nadie>yes. i created both debs
15:14<nadie>and installed them
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15:15<EagleScreen>nadie: you should have: linux-image-xxx.deb, linux-headers-xxx.deb, linux-doc-xxx.deb and linux-source-xxx.deb
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15:16<nadie>linux-source?? Thats what I want
15:16<EagleScreen>--initrd binary create all these packages
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15:17<EagleScreen>compile with make-kpkg --append-to-version=.XXXX --initrd binary
15:17<nadie>my command is: make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers
15:17<EagleScreen>XXXX is any string to differ your compilations
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15:17<EagleScreen>use this make-kpkg --append-to-version=.XXXX --initrd binary
15:18<EagleScreen>and you will obtain also source package
15:18<nadie>gonna try right now
15:18<EagleScreen>install it and try to build your module
15:18<nadie>so I missed command "binary" huh?
15:18<EagleScreen>are you getting ath5k from repository?
15:19<nadie>no
15:19<EagleScreen>from where?
15:20<nadie>m-a
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15:21<EagleScreen>m-a obtain them from repositories
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15:22<EagleScreen>ath5k should be build-in kernel
15:22<EagleScreen>are you building linux 2.6.32?
15:23<EagleScreen>what Debian version are you using?
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15:24<nadie>testing (squeeze)
15:24<nadie>2.6.32.8
15:24<nadie>that module was unselected in my .config
15:25<EagleScreen>ath5k is built in the 2.6.32 kernel
15:25<EagleScreen>do do not need to compile the kernel to have ath5k module
15:25<EagleScreen>is it for wireless card?
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15:26<nadie>yes, usb wifi card
15:26<nadie>dongle
15:26<EagleScreen>are you now running your compiled kernel?
15:27<nadie>yes
15:27<nadie>no prob
15:27<nadie>im compiling it with your command right now
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15:28<EagleScreen>what you are doing is unuseful
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15:28<EagleScreen>unnecessary
15:29<EagleScreen>ath5k is in the Debian default kernel
15:29<EagleScreen>are you sure it is the module you need?
15:29<nadie>i forgot binary command, i just got 2 debs, not 4
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15:29<nadie>i don't really mind that module, i just want to know why i didn't create sources deb
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15:30<EagleScreen>ok
15:30<EagleScreen>then use the command i told you
15:32<nadie>just 10 minutes (1 beer :)) and i'll tell you something
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15:42<User_007>does anyone knows what is the kernel module that allow change the hour of my clock?
15:42<abrotman>!set the time
15:42<dpkg>To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior.
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15:44<User_007>abrotman, i already use all of this. In the distro kernel i can set my clock everytime i want, but in my self compiled kernel i must had disabled something and now i can't set my clock in my self compiled kernel
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15:45<abrotman>then don't do that
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15:46<User_007>i am compiling a new kernel, so i want to know what i need to do configure to allow set clock
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15:47<mondoshawan>hello, i use vim to edit files over ftp : vim ftp://username@host.com// but then it comes a promt for password. How can i create a shell script to skip this step?
15:48<mondoshawan>vim ftp://username:password@host.com// does not work
15:48<Pryon>I use a different editor, but have you tried using sftp instead of ftp? That way you could use an agent to do your authentication
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15:49<Pryon>I have no clue if vim supports this
15:49<mondoshawan>my host does not support sftp i think
15:50<mondoshawan>its port 22 isn't it?
15:51<mondoshawan>but i can make a shell script that automat. fills the password into promt?
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15:55<Zeadar>Anyone who know a guide how to compile the 2.6.33 kernel? I need it for the experimental radeonhd drivers... help about using the kernel would be useful too.
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15:57<Pryon>mondoshawan: again, I'm mostly ignorant about such things, but the program that pops into my head when I think about automating such processes is expect.
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16:05<hexagon>i want to port an existing debian package (or two) to maemo without creating a new from scratch
16:05<hexagon>is this ok?
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16:05<hexagon>that is, apt-get source, modify controlfile, adding optify file, add changelog entry, upload to maemo repos
16:05<abrotman>what do you mean 'okay" ?
16:05<hexagon>can i do that? :)
16:06<abrotman>hexagon: i would assunme so ..
16:06<hexagon>isn't there any license issues?
16:06<hexagon>it would save me a lot of time
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16:07<james_>Sounds okay. As long as you're not claiming to be the original author or something.
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16:08<hexagon>ok, i just add an changelog entry stating that i ported the package to maemo
16:08<abrotman>hexagon: probably a better question for #maemo
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16:08<hexagon>there's just n900 users over there
16:09<abrotman>i'm sure there's a developer or two
16:09<abrotman>hexagon: i mean on freenode
16:09<hexagon>yeah, i use to hang there
16:10<hexagon>i thought there would be some debian package maintainers here knowing this
16:10<hexagon>i'm a maemo package maintainer :)
16:11<hexagon>(only third-party stuff though)
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16:12<hexagon>i'll give it a go in #maemo too
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16:21<hopchewer_>Hello, I just built a new kernel, linux-2.6.32.3. How do I build the nvidia drivers into this? I am not getting video when I boot into the new kernel as is.
16:22<etsorbme8>i am having problems configuring for two instances of squid running on the same box see http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a8d5bf1
16:22<hopchewer_>I am booted into the previous kernel and would like to install the modules for the nvidia drivers from this working kernel.
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16:27<chealer>hopchewer_: which Debian suite do you use?
16:28<hopchewer_>lenny 5.0
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16:32<father0fnine>So... is there a neato command line that will show me / tell me what packages debootstrap would install by default?
16:33<chealer>hopchewer_: you could try nvidia-installer, but that's known to overwrite dpkg-owned files, which will probably break your system at some point.
16:34<chealer>hopchewer_: otherwise, you could upgrade to testing and than use unstable's packages with moderate difficulty
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16:34<chealer>hopchewer_: which video chipset do you use, BTW?
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16:36<xente>is anyone else that is running amd64 and trying to run 32bit apps getting segfaults?
16:37<xente>if so, has anyone found a solution?
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16:39<campanilla>y car,emn higadlho ghgshgf cfgguda
16:39<campanilla>bfsfATFBAVBANVNBVHADGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
16:39<campanilla>CARMEN HIDALGO MAYA
16:39<campanilla>QUIEN ERES
16:40<xente>no haga esso
16:40<campanilla>GUAPA SI QUE SOY GUAPA
16:40<campanilla>QUIEN ERES
16:40<xente>pare
16:40<Mr-R>genau
16:41<Mr-R>:)
16:41<campanilla>PERO QUIE ERES
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16:41<febbaz>hey
16:41<febbaz>can someone make me a yahoo account?
16:42<xente>?
16:43<sney>make your own
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16:44<hexagon>febbaz: lol
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16:47<abrotman>febbaz: you're in the wrong channel
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16:48<jhutchins_lt>Anybody familiar with cron-apt?
16:48<abrotman>!ask
16:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:49<febbaz>there is no right question
16:49<febbaz>or right channel
16:49<febbaz>for this question
16:49<kmap>febbaz: You can create an account by visiting their website
16:49<febbaz>but will u help me
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16:49<kmap>This channel is only for help with using Debian GNU/Linux
16:49<kmap>No, sorry.
16:49<febbaz>i cant connect to yahoo with it
16:49<kmap>Ah, there we go.
16:49<jhutchins_lt>How do I set cron-apt to email me a list of available updates? The default setup appears to download them but isn't notifying me.
16:50<kmap>Are you trying to connect to Yahoo Mail, or Yahoo website?
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16:50<febbaz>the chat with pidgin
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16:50<febbaz>or zinc
16:50<febbaz>or empathy
16:50<abrotman>febbaz: which version of linux is it ?
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16:51<febbaz>2.6.31
16:51<abrotman>febbaz: which version of linux is it ?
16:51<kmap>Er, i think which version of pidgin is it?
16:51<abrotman>no, i want to know which version of linux
16:51<kmap>Oh, OK
16:51<kmap>Which distribution?
16:52<febbaz>cebian
16:52<febbaz>r
16:52<febbaz>debiasn
16:52<abrotman>febbaz: uname -r
16:52<febbaz>brb
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16:54<febbaz>yeah you got me im far too lazy to look through the responses on google
16:54<gsimmons>father0fnine: (re debootstrap) That's dependent on the suite (and variant, if any) requested, use the --print-debs option to determine.
16:54<febbaz>im running ubuntic karma
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16:54<febbaz>not even one debian uname -r on the first page
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16:55<febbaz>i guess its sad for both of us
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16:55<kmap>I don't understand what you're saying, except that you should probably search the web, or ask your question on a pidgin forum
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16:56<kmap>e.g. #pidgin on Freenode
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16:56<febbaz>kmap, i cant make an account which would work with this network
16:56<febbaz>if you did it
16:56<febbaz>probably work ok
16:56<kmap>febbaz: It's a network problem. So the problem is likely to persist for any account
16:56<kmap>Network/software problem
16:56<febbaz>my ISP has limited IPs
16:57<febbaz>its a network problem
16:57<febbaz>if the account was active
16:57<febbaz>id be ok
16:57<kmap>That is my understanding. However, please ask in a different forum for better help
16:57<febbaz>lol kmap
16:57<febbaz>its good advice
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16:59<father0fnine>Why does (lenny) iceweasel say it's Firefox 2.0 to the webservers when I thought it was based on Firefox 3.5?
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17:00<kmap>father0fnine: Maybe you have a user-agent switcher or something?
17:00<jhutchins_lt>father0fnine: Browser ID is just an arbitrary string.
17:01<jhutchins_lt>father0fnine: Possibly nobody's updated it yet, or the packagers think web sites behave better if they think it's 2.0.
17:01<raylu>father0fnine: iceweasel isn't "based on firefox 3.5"
17:01<kmap>father0fnine: You can verify by searching for useragent in about:config
17:01<raylu>testing only recently got 3.5, so i'm sure stable is still on at most 3
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17:01<raylu>deb iceweasel
17:01<raylu>:(
17:01<febbaz>hey
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17:02<febbaz>im too drunk to make this channel work
17:02<febbaz>but u guys treated me better than the previous holes
17:02<jhutchins_lt>kmap: I don't see that in mine.
17:02<febbaz>so thanks
17:02<febbaz>later
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17:02<kmap>jhutchins_lt: Oh, I do…
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17:03<kmap>Iceweasel/3.5.6 (like Firefox/3.5.6; Debian-3.5.6-1~bpo50+1)
17:03<jhutchins_lt>Looks like I'm running 3.0.6-3
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17:04<father0fnine>If it's just a string -- does that mean I can change it if I can find it... or would it require a recompile?
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17:04<jhutchins_lt>father0fnine: It can be changed. From time to time it's been in preferences, and I beleive there's a plugin that lets you change among several preconfigured strings on the fly.
17:04<kmap>judd: versions iceweasel
17:04<judd>iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.6-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.6-1; sid: 3.5.6-2
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17:05<kmap>jhutchins_lt: general.useragent.extra.firefox and general.useragent.extra.firefoxComment are present in my Iceweasel
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17:07<jhutchins_lt>There it is. Looks like Find doesn't work, but mine's set to Iceweasel 3.0.6.
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17:12<father0fnine>So... set those in "prefs" should do it, right?
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17:16<father0fnine>I see where general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to Firefox/2.0
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17:39<father0fnine>debootstrap installs about 120 packages.. does that shound right?
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17:42<kurumin>oi
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17:59<LoBoCaMaRoN>ola
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18:01<LoBoCaMaRoN>ola
18:01<LoBoCaMaRoN>ol
18:01<LoBoCaMaRoN>wd
18:02<themill>!es
18:02<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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18:02<LoBoCaMaRoN>hello
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18:03<hopchewer_>chealer: I have Geforce 8200 on board graphics
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18:09<chealer>hopchewer_: OK
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18:18<father0fnine>Does debian have a Web Content Filter ala Smooth Wall and such?
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18:20<bja>dansguardian
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18:33<mib_9igle6pn2uga>hey all
18:33<father0fnine>I thought DansGuardian was non-commericial use only?
18:33<mib_9igle6pn2uga>I just installed debian lenny onto my laptop.
18:34<mib_9igle6pn2uga>Why does it not recognize .deb files?
18:34<babilen>recognise?
18:34<mib_9igle6pn2uga>I'm trying to install chrome on linux.
18:34<mib_9igle6pn2uga>And all I have is a .deb.
18:34<babilen>mib_9igle6pn2uga: 'dpkg -i <deb>'
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18:35<mib_9igle6pn2uga>Okay.
18:35<mib_9igle6pn2uga>All that happened is it gives ">"
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18:36<babilen>replace <deb> with the path to the chrome .deb file
18:36<mib_9igle6pn2uga>oh ok
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18:38<starscream>it says I have a dependency problem
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18:38<starscream>I need a newer version of xdg-utils or something.
18:39<babilen>which version?
18:39<starscream>>= 1.01
18:40<babilen>Can you paste the complete output please? (http://paste.debian.net) Which version of Debian do you use?
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18:40<babilen>,versions xdg-utils
18:40<judd>xdg-utils -- etch: 1.0-1; lenny: 1.0.2-6.1; sid: 1.0.2-6.1; squeeze: 1.0.2-6.1
18:40<babilen>starscream: xdg-utils shouldn't be a problem. Is the package installed?
18:41<starscream>http://paste.debian.net/59465/
18:41<babilen>try: 'aptitude install xdg-utils'
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18:43<starscream>Didn't work at all.
18:44<babilen>Could you elaborate on that please?
18:44<starscream>No candidate version found for xdg-utils
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18:44<starscream>And it just keeps buggin me to remove chrome.
18:44<themill>starscream: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list for us please?
18:45<rbees>leave
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18:45<rogerio>Hi, all! I have just pluged a webcam in my computer. What software can I use to test the webcam?
18:46<starscream>http://paste.debian.net/59466/
18:46<vhann>rogerio: if it is v4l-compatible wxcam or cheese would probably work
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18:47<babilen>starscream: Ah, you'll have to add a mirror to your sources.list - Edit /etc/apt/sources.list
18:47<babilen>!sources.list
18:47<dpkg>The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
18:47<themill>starscream: you're missing two important lines from your sources.list -- you need a line for a regular mirror (/msg dpkg mirrors) and you need to remove the # in front o the line for the "security.debian.org" line
18:48<starscream>there are more than one
18:48<starscream>Which one?
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18:49<babilen>starscream: You can actually uncomment both (deb and deb-src) - but it is enough for now to uncomment just the ones that start with 'deb' and add a mirror
18:50<babilen>starscream: Run 'aptitude update' afterwards
18:50<starscream>I can't save the file now.
18:50<starscream>How do I get root in gui?
18:51<hexagon>gksu
18:51<hexagon>i think
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18:54<starscream>okay, I can't figure out how to save the damn file
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18:55<bja>starscream: what editor are you using?
18:55<starscream>gedit
18:56<babilen>starscream: Open a terminal. Become root ('su') - Use nano to edit the file ('nano /etc/apt/sources.list')
18:56<themill>starscream: you need to start the editor as root
18:56<bja>starscream: on a terminal which has root , just type the name of the editor and voila, you are editing as root
18:56<babilen>starscream: Then CTRL+O to save it and CTRL+X to exit
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18:57<babilen>starscream: You can use another editor as well ;-)
18:58<bja>starscream: forget about this people, they want to confuse you, use your editor of choice :)
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18:58<babilen>!confuse bja
18:58<dpkg>No, where was their gerbil today, bja? Breeches of the Republic of Micronesia with extra crabpaste.
18:58<starscream>my editor of choice is notepad, so I'm SOl
18:58<starscream>SOL*
18:58<babilen>SOL?
18:59<starscream>Shit Out of Luck
19:00<babilen>starscream: nano did not work?
19:00<starscream>it did
19:00<bja>gedit is close enough
19:00<starscream>well gedit couldn't save root files
19:00<starscream>but yeah gedit would be fine
19:00<babilen>starscream: You have to start it as root
19:00<starscream>I did with gk**
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19:01<starscream>But it said it didn't need a password, so I was skeptical
19:01<rogerio>I tried the software cheese to get pictures from my webcam. It does not work. My cam is Logitech
19:01<babilen>starscream: I guess it is time to 'aptitude update' and 'aptitude install xdg-utils' and 'aptitude safe-upgrade'
19:01<starscream>wait, don't I need to add a mirror to that file?
19:02<babilen>!tell rogerio -about gspca
19:02<starscream>(appreciate the help btw guys)
19:02<babilen>rogerio: Also paste 'dmesg|tail -n 20' after you've plugged in the webcam
19:02<babilen>starscream: Yes - I thought you've already added the mirrir
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19:05<starscream>I didn't know what mirror to add :/
19:05<starscream>I'll figure it out in after a cig, hang on
19:05<babilen>starscream: Where are you located ..
19:05<babilen>starscream: enjoy it :-Q
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19:12<starscream>I'm in Lansing, MI
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19:13<starscream>This is a dumb question, but how do I find the exact urls for the mirror I need.
19:13<abrotman>starscream: man sources.list
19:13<babilen>ok - Just add "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main" to your sources.list
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19:14<babilen>starscream: '/msg dpkg contrib' and '/msg dpkg non-free' might be interesting as wel
19:14<abrotman>there's a mirror in michigan
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19:14<abrotman>"deb http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/ lenny main"
19:15<bja>how do i check a pgp signature on a debian bacport source package?
19:15<jhutchins_lt>Physical proximity does not guarantee network proximity and often does not indicate best choice for speed.
19:16<starscream>should it be lenny or lenny/updates?
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19:16<starscream>well, I added it so
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19:17<themill>bja: /msg dpkg secure apt; the wiki page has instructions on how to do this manually (apt does this automagically)
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19:17<babilen>starscream: Just add the line either abrotman or I gave you. Both will work and abrotman's might be faster
19:17<bja>themill: thx
19:17<starscream>I did and then I updated and installed xdg
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19:17<abrotman>starscream: the lenny/updates is for the security.debian.org mirror .. which you also need
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19:17<starscream>that is in their still too
19:18<babilen>starscream: You probably want to run 'aptitude safe-upgrade' too
19:18<starscream>k
19:19<starscream>Okay, I installed xdg-utils but chrome still gives me a dependency error
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19:20<babilen>starscream: Install the packages it is complaining about
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19:21<starscream>I did apt-get install xdg-utils
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19:22<babilen>starscream: Use aptitude instead of apt-get please
19:22<babilen>starscream: And paste the dependency errors you get now
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19:23<starscream>http://paste.debian.net/59470/
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19:25<babilen>starscream: Have you run 'aptitude update' ?
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19:25<starscream>yeah
19:25<starscream>both aptitude update and aptitude safe-update
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19:27<babilen>starscream: Paste the output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy xdg-utils' please
19:27<starscream>Okay
19:28<starscream>http://paste.debian.net/59471/
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19:29<babilen>Ok - Run 'aptitude install'
19:29<starscream>k
19:30<abrotman>starscream: did you try 'aptitude -f install' ?
19:30<starscream>uh no
19:30<starscream>what is -f?
19:31<starscream>apt inst is still running btw
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19:31<bja>-f Try hard to fix the dependencies of broken packages, even if it means ignoring the actions requested on the command line
19:31<abrotman>man aptitude?
19:31<bja>yes
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19:33<abrotman>him, not you
19:33<bja>!unlobotomy bja
19:33<starscream>All it says now is 99% [Working]
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19:35<starscream>It's still working. But is it actually doing anything?
19:39<abrotman>starscream: hit ctrl-c and try agian
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19:40<starscream>I feel my cpu burning a hole in my leg.
19:40<starscream>So it must be doing something now.
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19:40<starscream>though now its stuck at 6%...
19:42<starscream>>:(
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19:44<freestyler>!de
19:44<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
19:45<abrotman>starscream: hit ctrl-c .. do it again
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19:46<starscream>I tried it again x2.
19:46<starscream>Keeps getting stuck at 65
19:46<starscream>6%
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19:51<starscream>Still at 6%/
19:51<starscream>Is there anything I can do.
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19:52<Zhila>starscream: throw it against the wall
19:52<Zhila>then go out and buy a new computer
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19:52<retrospectacus>out the window would also work
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19:55<retrospectacus>or forget google chrome
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19:56<starscream>wtf
19:56<starscream>It is a fresh debian install, on a newish computer.
19:56<starscream>Why is this shit fubared?
19:56<starscream>should I restart?
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19:58<oogle>how do I disable kdm from starting up automatically when I log in? (my whole computer freezes when X tries to start. I know to delete /etc/rc./kdm* or whatever, but I can't even get to a shell!)
19:59<bja>oogle: do you have a rescue disk?
20:00<oogle>I have an install CD. Can I use that to load up a plain old shell?
20:01<oogle>hmm. Is there any way to tell grub or something not to start X? Or to enter an interactive startup? (some function key)?
20:01<babilen>starscream: Which command are you running actually?
20:01<bja>Don't know for sure, i was thinking on grml, or another live cd
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20:02<oogle>it's startup. the startup script runs kdm, kdm makes my computer freeze.
20:02<bja>oogle: there is a way, i just can't remember is the same way as reseting a root pasword
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20:02<oogle>eh, i'll see if the install cd has just a way to start a shell
20:03<oogle>i always have so many damn problems with x11
20:03<oogle>i'll probably have to mess around with what drivers im using
20:04<retrospectacus>oogle: you can choose single user mode at the grub prompt, then use the update-rc.d command to disable kde
20:04<oogle>ahh ok.
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20:10<bja>oogle: not exactly what you are looking, but i think some parts can help
20:10<bja>!tel oogle about ifrp
20:10<bja>!tell oogle about ifrp
20:11<oogle>i think i can figure out how to disable kdm pretty easily.
20:11<oogle>getting x11 set up is a bit of a nightmare on my system however. i remember from installing other distros
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20:13<bja>oogle: something under the hood that is too old?
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20:14<oogle>maybe
20:15<oogle>i think that i had to just switch settings around a bit
20:15<bja>you can allways backup /etc to poke around with new distros
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20:29<jcdubacq>Hi
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20:30<jcdubacq>Is there a way to have enigmail+icedove3 (experimental)+64bits ? #562714 is the bug
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20:35<adb>!experimental
20:35<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/
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20:42<Duber>Hello
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20:43<Duber>Any clue why I'm not able to connect either by wireless or cable after last reboot ? >.> I'm on sid, guess it has something to do with a package upgrade ? D:
20:44<adb>!tell Duber about sid
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20:46<Duber>oook, didn't know you don't support sid here :x sry
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20:48<abrotman>Duber: did you check the BTS ?
20:49<Duber>BTS D: ?
20:49<abrotman>oh jeez ..
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20:49<abrotman>!sid upgrade
20:49<dpkg>Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use <stable> or <testing> instead. <sid upgrade test>
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20:49<abrotman>Duber: bugs.debian.org .. have fun
20:49<Duber>^^;
20:49<ravenbird>Duber: wish I knew
20:52<Duber>>.> I'm out of sid for good after this
20:52<Duber>learning the hard way
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21:03<Duber>well, thanks for answering, I'll come up with something :P cya
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21:05<lobby>how do I get all the plug and play dev like usb and flash cards mounted not in /media/ but in /~
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21:29<Golfgeo>Hi all
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21:30<Emmanuel_Chanel>Hello!
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21:33<Golfgeo>Been away from working on my Debian machines for some time and I've got a question: How can I redirect a specific url request to an public IPed machine to an private IPed machine within my network? Situation would be that I have one public IP address and use a mix of virtualbox virtual machines and fysical machines to host multiple services to the outside world. But since I only have one public IP... I am wondering wat service Debian has that could do this for
21:34<Golfgeo>Perhaps a bit of a long question in retrospect... :-)
21:34<dondelelcaro>Golfgeo: witha proxy, geneally
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21:34<dondelelcaro>Golfgeo: you can use apache if you want, or varnish, or similar.
21:35<Golfgeo>dondelelcaro: you mean generaly?
21:35<Golfgeo>dondelelcaro: writing them down and looking them up :-)
21:35<dondelelcaro>Golfgeo: yes; typing ona tiny adp1 keyboard on a moving train.
21:35<Golfgeo>How did I ever forget the word "proxy"? rofl :-)
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21:36<Golfgeo>dondelelcaro: :-) Appriciate your help mate :-) So happy taining! :-)
21:37<lobby>how do I get all the plug and play dev like usb and flash cards mounted not in /media/ but in /~
21:37<dondelelcaro>lobby: you generally don't want to mount them in user dirs; use symlinks.
21:38<Emmanuel_Chanel>I wanna newer apache than the lenny official: 2.2.9. Someone knows how I can find that?
21:38<dondelelcaro>awesomr
21:38<Emmanuel_Chanel>And when will squeeze become stable?
21:39<lobby>dondelelcaro: i run a linux internet cafe which works out fine untill windows user stick in there usb sticks to upload pix to facebook and can't find the path where the stick is mounted
21:39<dondelelcaro>!wir
21:39<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, wir is When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>.
21:40<Emmanuel_Chanel>!rsn
21:40<dpkg>rumour has it, rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see <wir> and <siyh>
21:40<dondelelcaro>lobby: yeah, symlinks will fix that propblem.
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21:40<Golfgeo>dondelelcaro: Know an service that will let me round-robin (another one that I forgot) for specific ports on the public IP onto multiple identical machines on a private IPed network?
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21:41<lobby>dondelelcaro: but i can't symlink a plug and play device right?
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21:41<dondelelcaro>g
21:41<chealer>!tell Emmanuel_Chanel about wwsr
21:42<lobby>i would need to edit the config file which automaticly puts them in /media/ but i don't know which file is responsable for that dondelelcaro
21:42<dondelelcaro>Golfgeo: varnish can if iys http
21:43<Emmanuel_Chanel>thx.
21:43<Golfgeo>dondelelcaro: and other protocols? (wondering if I can virtulize ntp1.somedomain and ntp2.somedomain)
21:43<dondelelcaro>Golfgeo: sure
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21:43<Golfgeo>(that since virtualbox will use the fysical clock of the hostmachine for the virtual machines)
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21:44<dondelelcaro>Golfgeo: but not using varnish; the proxy you use depends on the service and protocol
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21:44<lobby>somebody know what file I would have to edit to auto mount usb devices in /home/somebody/ and not /media/
21:45<Golfgeo>dondelelcaro: :-) thanks mate, going reading on varnish right now :-)
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21:48<oogle>lobby: /etc/fstab?
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21:52<lobby>oogle: a plug and play usb dev is not in fstab
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21:57<Golfgeo>lobby, but oogle could use dev handlers as plugin events and then use some form of automount to mount the flashdrives, right?
21:58<Golfgeo>oogle: search with keywords like automount usb flash drive on linux on google
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22:12<Golfgeo>gtg, thanks mates :-) Have fun! :-)
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22:18<inter1>what config file has to be edited to change the default mount point from /media/ to /whatever/ for usb devices?
22:19<adb>03:57<Golfgeo> oogle: search with keywords like automount usb flash drive on linux on google
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