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00:05 | <mantra> | hey why am i getting an error for trying to install a snapshot? |
00:05 | <mantra> | its 404ing |
00:06 | <mantra> | when i run aptitude update |
00:06 | <dondelelcaro> | mantra: what is the precise error? |
00:07 | <dondelelcaro> | mantra: or if you mean you're trying to install something from snapshot.debian.net, that service isn't working anymore |
00:07 | <mantra> | oh |
00:07 | <mantra> | i was |
00:07 | <dondelelcaro> | (it'll be replaced by snapshot.debian.org soon, though) |
00:07 | <mantra> | oh ok |
00:07 | <mantra> | so no way to install an older version now? |
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00:16 | <LiuChong> | hi |
00:16 | <LiuChong> | 大家好 |
00:16 | <dondelelcaro> | mantra: not easily, no |
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00:17 | <LiuChong> | o,not much chats |
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01:41 | <vhann> | What is the command to issue to completely wipe a package "on a dpkg-level" |
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01:45 | <dondelelcaro> | vhann: what are you trying to do? |
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01:47 | <vhann> | dondelelcaro: I have a problem installing MythTV |
01:47 | <vhann> | I had problems getting to communicate with MySQL |
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01:47 | <vhann> | Then I 'apt-get --purge autoremove mythtv' |
01:48 | <vhann> | Now there's some problem with a postinst.sh script |
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01:48 | <vhann> | /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst: line 144: /etc/mysql/conf.d/old_passwords.cnf: No such file or directory |
01:49 | <dondelelcaro> | vhann: so touch /etc/mysql/conf.d/old_passwords.conf; and try continuing |
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01:50 | <vhann> | dondelelcaro: Yeah, just read the script and saw it was a missing directory problem |
01:51 | <vhann> | But now it get stuck somewhere else |
01:51 | <shaggy_> | would, it bed a bad idea to install virtualbox-3.0 using the lenny repo if i am using sid? |
01:51 | <shaggy_> | lenny repo provided by virtualbox.org |
01:53 | <vhann> | dondelelcaro: Well, touching another file made it work, thanks for the help :) |
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01:54 | <gsimmons> | shaggy_: If you don't require USB support or the RDP server, just use the packaged VirtualBox OSE version. |
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01:59 | <vhann> | Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. |
01:59 | <vhann> | 100220 2:04:08 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/user.frm' (errno: 13) |
01:59 | <vhann> | 100220 2:04:08 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/user.frm' (errno: 13) |
01:59 | <vhann> | ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/user.frm' (errno: 13) |
02:00 | <vhann> | 100220 2:04:08 [ERROR] Aborting |
02:00 | <vhann> | 100220 2:04:08 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete |
02:00 | <vhann> | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
02:00 | <vhann> | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. |
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02:00 | <vhann> | dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
02:00 | <dpkg> | vhann: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
02:00 | <vhann> | Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.0 |
02:00 | <vhann> | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
02:00 | -!- | mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
02:00 | -!- | vhann was kicked from #debian by dondelelcaro [you should know better] |
02:00 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
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02:00 | <shaggy_> | gsimmons: i decided to haha. i wanted 3.0 but decided it was unimportant to test FreeBSD in |
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02:01 | <dondelelcaro> | vhann: please don't paste here |
02:01 | <vhann> | Ok |
02:02 | <vhann> | http://pastebin.com/m5ae6c45c |
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02:02 | <vhann> | Sorry |
02:03 | <vhann> | I am lost though: where is './mysql/user.frm' |
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02:51 | <Bacta> | I'm banned from Freenode :( |
02:52 | <jar> | ok? |
02:52 | <Bacta> | I got klined for signing in as lorezisajew |
02:52 | <jar> | why are you telling #debian this? |
02:53 | <Bacta> | Because Debbie and Ian are my friends and I wish they would get back together |
02:53 | <jar> | k |
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02:59 | <StarkD> | where do I change the compression settings for file-roller/archive manager? I get a little more compressed files using 7zr directly |
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03:08 | <StarkD> | 552.1 MB instead of 552.3 MB so we are not talking about a big difference here, but still :P |
03:09 | <benjamin_baka> | Some of my icons have stopped appearing. Instead they show an X box. How do i restore to the default icons? |
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03:11 | <simonrvn> | try purging ~/.thumbnails |
03:11 | <gsimmons> | StarkD: See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450019 |
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03:23 | <el_isma> | ok, I found the most weird bug ever... If I load vmlinuz with "quiet quiet", module ipw2200 WON'T work :| |
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03:29 | <Ipsi> | "the night man commeth all over you" |
03:29 | <Ipsi> | oh excuse me |
03:29 | <Ipsi> | "The Nightman Cometh: Inside the Boy's Hole" |
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03:34 | <StarkD> | gsimmons: thank you |
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04:14 | <geez> | ? |
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04:15 | <geez> | a ... |
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04:21 | <matrix_> | хм, здраствуйте господа, давно думаю над одной небольшой проблемой. можно ли сделать так, чтоб при подключемии DVD диска не открывалось окно с его содержимом? Окружение Gnome. Обозреватель папок nautilus. |
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04:23 | <weasel> | !ru |
04:23 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
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04:24 | <matrix_> | ok |
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04:33 | <simonrvn> | did that on the other #d too ... |
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04:39 | <edbian> | Is there a way to pull an ISO off of a CD using the cli? |
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04:41 | <fcestrada> | edbian: wget? |
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04:42 | <weasel> | edbian: cat or dd |
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05:11 | <magIRCien> | xchat c nul. |
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05:18 | <edbian> | I'm looking for some help pxe-booting. I think I have everything set up but my clients seem to just skip right past asking the dhcp server for an image |
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05:23 | <ymmot> | hi! im trying to find out a way to cp a bunch of folder to a different location with the use of grep. can someone explain how to go about this. i wanna take the output of: ls |grep Foldername, and move the result to my homefolder. ány ideas? |
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05:49 | <simonrvn> | ymmot: why are you using grep? |
05:52 | <simonrvn> | ymmot: based on the content? i'd do a 1-2 liner in thehell, with some use of variables ;) |
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05:54 | <ymmot> | simonrvn: okey, kan you please tell me how you do it! :) |
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05:54 | <simonrvn> | with the shell? write a script if you need to |
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06:00 | <chaos> | in the grub boot console how do i override the root partition? |
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06:14 | <inkbottle> | Hi, if I want to have a experimental version of only one package: I add exp. in the source list + I forbid exp. by putting the pin to 100 in preferences + save for the very package i want it to be exp. for which I put a specific pin priority together with this very source. (am i correct?) |
06:16 | <inkbottle> | In fact i also want to know if i can do that for contrib/non-free? |
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06:24 | <Elessar> | I think there is no need to pin experimental. |
06:24 | <Elessar> | Because it is not a distribution and will always get a low priority, or something like that. |
06:24 | <inkbottle> | Elessar, for what reason? ok, then |
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06:25 | <inkbottle> | and do you think i can use pin mechanism for contrib/non-free? |
06:26 | <Elessar> | no idea. |
06:26 | <Elessar> | I think experimental has been designed to work like that, to enable testing of individual packages and not to be another testing distribution. |
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06:28 | <josh> | yospos bitch |
06:28 | <josh> | hic |
06:28 | <josh> | no srsl |
06:28 | <josh> | u all in trubl |
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06:28 | <Guest694> | 4 breakin ur curfew |
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06:29 | <clamiam> | gat damn this is a better av |
06:29 | <clamiam> | death is certain |
06:29 | <clamiam> | ANSWER ME MOFUCKAZS |
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06:29 | <clamiam> | nao |
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06:30 | <zobel> | ah |
06:30 | <zobel> | weasel already did |
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06:37 | <inkbottle> | Related to "man apt.conf": I've got 4 files in /etc/apt/atp.conf.d/, but i've got no informations on how to handle those "file fragments" |
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06:38 | <hachi> | hey all, how can I get the debian installer to not require me to use its 'partition disks' step? I'm in expert mode trying to use either cfdisk or parted to set up a drive (partman can't do it) |
06:38 | <hachi> | but I can't seem to find any way to allow me to use the debian installer, and not run partman |
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06:43 | <inkbottle> | hachi, I don't know if it answer, but with debian-installer, you can choose the partition to use, though you tell it not to format them 'K' (then you could have done the work before with another tool) |
06:44 | <hachi> | the problem is partman doesn't understand the device at all |
06:44 | <hachi> | it tries to partition the partitions |
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06:46 | <chaos> | what's up with dir_index option for mount? |
06:46 | <chaos> | was it removed ? |
06:47 | <chaos> | man mount doesn't have it on my system but i do find stuff on google |
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06:47 | <hachi> | last I knew, dir_index was an option for tune2fs and then you have to fsck to enable it or something |
06:47 | <chaos> | ahh |
06:47 | <chaos> | thx |
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07:02 | <rybi_olej> | hello |
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07:02 | <bittin> | hi |
07:02 | <rybi_olej> | hi |
07:02 | <hachi> | hello |
07:02 | <rybi_olej> | I would like to install pygame for python3 on debian |
07:03 | <rybi_olej> | someone can help me? |
07:04 | <rybi_olej> | I think no one is interested in this issue. |
07:04 | <rybi_olej> | ok then |
07:04 | <rybi_olej> | bye! |
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07:15 | <Ply> | Anyone know how to get VDPAU enabled player on Lenny? |
07:15 | <Ply> | been searching for quite some time on google, and nothing |
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07:17 | <Ply> | no ideas? |
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07:19 | <Bacteria> | Ply, any particular player? |
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07:20 | <Ply> | mplayer probably. But anything as long as it gets vdpau |
07:20 | <Bacteria> | I'll install it now and try it out. |
07:21 | <Bacteria> | You will probably have to compile your own version of mplayer to support it. |
07:21 | <Bacteria> | I'm unsure if the repo package is compiled with support. |
07:22 | <Ply> | so no vdpau support on debian... weird |
07:22 | <Bacteria> | Well the packages exist for libvdpau. |
07:23 | <Ply> | yeah i saw them |
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07:23 | <Bacteria> | But I doubt the build of mplayer was compiled with support for it. |
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07:23 | <Bacteria> | My suggestion is that you download the mplayer src and compile it your self. |
07:23 | <Ply> | Well the weird part is that ubuntu has them |
07:23 | <Bacteria> | http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/05/29/how-to-compile-mplayer-with-vdpau-support-on-ubuntu/ |
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07:24 | <Bacteria> | Read the compiling mplayer section. |
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07:24 | <Bacteria> | I'll check if I'm my mplayer supports it. |
07:25 | <Ply> | cool thnx. I'll do my best |
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07:26 | <Bacteria> | It's pretty easy to do. I'll do it my self just to see if it works. |
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07:29 | <Ply> | would it be the same for 64bit? |
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07:31 | <Bacteria> | Ply, yeah. |
07:32 | <Bacteria> | I'm running a 64 bit system. |
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07:32 | <Bacteria> | It should compile without any problems. |
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07:33 | <Ply> | hmph. I'm not sure what' the first steps are. Where it says prepare for configuration |
07:34 | <Ply> | I have the nvidia script, the files form his website and a source from the mplayer website |
07:34 | <Bacteria> | Yep. |
07:34 | <Bacteria> | Give me a sec. |
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07:37 | <Bacteria> | unpack the mplayer src and run this in the directory ./configure --enable-gui --disable-x264-lavc --disable-x264 --enable-vdpau --prefix=/usr --confdir=/etc/mplayer --mandir=/usr/share/man |
07:38 | <Ply> | total noob here. Where is a sane place to unpack stuff in linux :$ |
07:38 | <Bacteria> | Ah. |
07:38 | <Ply> | usr/bin ? |
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07:38 | <Bacteria> | run bunzip2 on the file |
07:39 | <Bacteria> | Then tar -xvf file_name |
07:39 | <Bacteria> | It will unpack the contents into a folder for it. |
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07:39 | <Bacteria> | So wherever you downloaded the source code. |
07:40 | <Bacteria> | It will make a new directory and unpack the files to. |
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07:40 | <Ply> | i don't have bunzip2 and it's not in synaptic or aptget |
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07:42 | <Bacteria> | :/ |
07:42 | <Bacteria> | It should be. |
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07:42 | <Ply> | oh nm |
07:42 | <Ply> | bzip2 |
07:42 | <lantizia> | Hey you know how you can have a cdrom:// and a http:// source in APT? |
07:42 | <Bacteria> | bzip is the zip command. |
07:43 | <lantizia> | Can you have like a local:// for a local repo just in a directory? |
07:43 | <Bacteria> | Ah yeah, install bzip2 |
07:43 | <Ply> | it already is |
07:43 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
07:43 | <Bacteria> | lancetw, I'm not sure. |
07:43 | <Bacteria> | * lantizia |
07:44 | <gsimmons> | lantizia: man sources.list, see file scheme. |
07:44 | <lantizia> | ah! yeah I see it |
07:44 | <lantizia> | I eventually realised sources.list would have a man page hehe |
07:45 | <Bacteria> | Ply, hmm, for some reason my compiled mplayer isn't giving me any sound. |
07:45 | <Bacteria> | No such audio driver 'alsa' |
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07:46 | <Ply> | :/ |
07:46 | <Bacteria> | Yeah, thats my reaction |
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07:49 | <saleem> | hello |
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07:50 | <saleem> | im facing this issue on squeeze, how can i fix it? |
07:50 | <saleem> | http://www.pastebin.com/m4effb3b6 |
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07:51 | <saleem> | any suggestions? |
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07:52 | <Bacteria> | Ply, it looks like the VDPAU works. |
07:52 | <Bacteria> | Just not getting any sound for some reason. |
07:52 | <mydokumen> | ae |
07:52 | <azeem_> | saleem: what does "ls -l /etc/apt/" say? |
07:52 | <azeem_> | !paste |
07:52 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
07:52 | <saleem> | ok azeem_ , i will check and report back |
07:53 | <saleem> | azeem_: http://www.pastebin.com/d706855b0 |
07:53 | <azeem_> | saleem: you're lacking /etc/apt |
07:54 | <azeem_> | saleem: did you delete it? |
07:54 | <saleem> | can i restore? i manually changed sources list |
07:54 | <Bacteria> | Ply, on my system playing a 1080p movie runs perfectly fine under both versions of mplayer, but the one with vdpau appears to use less cpu. |
07:54 | <azeem_> | saleem: how did you change it? |
07:54 | <azeem_> | saleem: you mean you want to restore your manually changed sources.list? |
07:55 | <Ply> | that makes sense |
07:55 | <saleem> | opened sources list in leafpad and added changes and saved , this i did as root |
07:55 | <Ply> | but i'm still in the process |
07:55 | <saleem> | no i mean can this error /issue be fixed? |
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07:55 | <azeem_> | saleem: 13:53 < azeem_> saleem: did you delete it? |
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07:56 | <saleem> | no , it is still there , i just changed sources list , thats all |
07:56 | <saleem> | i still see apt directory in /etc |
07:56 | <azeem_> | saleem: did you read what you pasted above? |
07:56 | <saleem> | i see its contents also |
07:56 | <Bacteria> | Ply, I'm starting to think that the vdpau isn't actually working. |
07:56 | <azeem_> | debian:/home/saleem# ls -l /etc/apt/ |
07:56 | <azeem_> | ls: cannot access /etc/apt/: No such file or directory |
07:56 | <saleem> | yes |
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07:57 | <saleem> | but they are here azeem_ |
07:57 | <azeem_> | saleem: what does "ls -l /etc | grep apt" say? |
07:57 | <Ply> | :/ |
07:57 | <saleem> | this is strange |
07:57 | <saleem> | i can see and even open all the directories in /etc/apt |
07:58 | <azeem_> | 13:56 < azeem_> saleem: what does "ls -l /etc | grep apt" say? |
07:58 | <saleem> | i can send you a screenshot if you like |
07:58 | <saleem> | ok i will check this and send now |
07:58 | <Bacteria> | Ply, it's still using 68% cpu |
07:59 | <saleem> | azeem_ : http://www.pastebin.com/d1968e3e9 |
07:59 | <Bacteria> | Ply, theres definitely a difference. |
07:59 | <azeem_> | saleem: you've locked it down to root only |
07:59 | <saleem> | oh |
08:00 | <saleem> | i dont know how i did it |
08:00 | <saleem> | can it be unlocked? |
08:00 | <azeem_> | man chmod |
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08:00 | <Ply> | i'm gonna try it. I think i'm getting the hang of what i'm supposed to do |
08:00 | <azeem_> | also check the other directories in /etc |
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08:00 | <azeem_> | maybe you made a wong recursive chmod run on / |
08:00 | <Bacteria> | Ply, aye, hopefully you wont run into the same sound issue as I did. |
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08:01 | <saleem> | i really dont know how this happened |
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08:02 | <saleem> | i am not familiar with command line, guess i need to search on google now for a fix |
08:02 | <Ply> | Bacteria, the vdpau file that i got form the website seems to be corrupt.. what about yours? |
08:02 | <Bacteria> | I didn't use it. |
08:02 | <Bacteria> | I've worked out how to use vdpau |
08:02 | <Bacteria> | mplayer is using 0% cpu |
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08:03 | <Ply> | oh nm |
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08:11 | <Bacteria> | Ply, I can only get oss sound working. |
08:11 | <Bacteria> | alsa doesnt load for some reason. |
08:11 | <Ply> | I'm still getting it installed ahah. |
08:12 | <xpdt> | Hello i have a similar problem. |
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08:12 | <xpdt> | When sometimes i start Debian, the sound doesn't work |
08:13 | <Gathond> | xpdt: mine never works, untill i reload alsa |
08:14 | <Gathond> | I'm blaiming SID and this new fangled dependency based boot concept someone dreamt up |
08:14 | <xpdt> | i tried to reload alsa, but doesn't work |
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08:14 | <Gathond> | and porting my 3 year old mess of manual garbage over to it |
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08:15 | <xpdt> | no sound at all! |
08:15 | <xpdt> | now i have to restart debian again |
08:15 | <locklace> | xpdt: paste output of "cat /proc/asound/cards" at http://paste.debian.net, run "speaker-test -t wav -c 2" as root, and run "alsamixer" in another shell and play with the mute and vol settings |
08:16 | <xpdt> | i will try that |
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08:16 | <Bacteria> | Ply, so far it's working well. |
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08:20 | <xpdt> | http://paste.debian.net/60618/ |
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08:21 | <locklace> | do you actually want to be using that usb thing for your sound |
08:21 | <xpdt> | no |
08:21 | <locklace> | you'll want to change the alsa default to the intel-hda card then |
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08:22 | <Ply> | when i do the sudo aptitude build-dep mplayer..where is it creating it? |
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08:23 | <xpdt> | another tin when i run the sound test |
08:23 | <xpdt> | it outputs |
08:23 | <xpdt> | audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback |
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08:24 | <locklace> | xpdt: http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting |
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08:25 | <gsimmons> | Ply: It does not build anything. |
08:25 | <Bacteria> | Ply, you don't need to do that. |
08:25 | <Ply> | O.o |
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08:25 | <Bacteria> | I said you need to extract the source code, run the configure command I gave you. |
08:26 | <xpdt> | i will follow that locklace got to go! |
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08:26 | <Bacteria> | Once that was done I was doing to tell you to run make and then make install as root. |
08:26 | <Ply> | oh it didn't matter where i did that? |
08:26 | <Bacteria> | Nope. |
08:26 | <Ply> | oh -_- my bad |
08:26 | <Bacteria> | Because make install takes care of it all. |
08:27 | <Bacteria> | Nah, that fine, I should have explained it a bit better. |
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08:28 | <Ply> | well, what i did until now was put both tars in a file. run unpack the vdpau script. run that aptitude command.. and then run the script.. right now it's taking it's time to compile i believe.. whatever it does when you run the script |
08:29 | <Ply> | so i have to wait till its done |
08:29 | <Ply> | before i restart |
08:29 | <Ply> | restart the process |
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08:29 | <Bacteria> | Aye. |
08:30 | <Bacteria> | I'll check what the script does. |
08:30 | <Bacteria> | It might do everything I've told you. |
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08:37 | <Bacteria> | Ply, you may also need to install the libalsa development package, |
08:38 | <Ply> | I just did what you told me to do |
08:38 | <Bacteria> | So it's compiling now? |
08:39 | <Ply> | oh, no. I did the first thing you told me to do |
08:39 | <Ply> | extract + command |
08:40 | <Ply> | if that was supposed to compile... then.. |
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08:40 | <Bacteria> | Ah, so you've done the ./configure command? |
08:41 | <Ply> | yeah |
08:41 | <Bacteria> | Can you scroll up until you find enabled audio out? |
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08:42 | <Bacteria> | Under enabled drivers. |
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08:42 | <Ply> | audio output? |
08:42 | <Ply> | alsa openal jack pulse.. etc |
08:43 | <Ply> | i'm on my laptop so copy/paste doesn't work |
08:43 | <Bacteria> | Thats under enabled? |
08:43 | <Ply> | ... pulse nas esd arts oss v4l2 sdl mpegpes(dvb) |
08:43 | <Ply> | yeah |
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08:43 | <Bacteria> | Okay, thats good. |
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08:43 | <Bacteria> | What about video? |
08:44 | <Bacteria> | Just check if vdpau is there. |
08:44 | <Ply> | on input or output? |
08:44 | <Bacteria> | video output |
08:44 | <Ply> | yeah, it's ther |
08:44 | <Ply> | vdpau |
08:44 | <Bacteria> | Excellent. |
08:45 | <Bacteria> | Now type in make |
08:45 | <Bacteria> | This will take a little while. |
08:45 | <Bacteria> | When thats done, you want to run make install as root. |
08:45 | <Ply> | i'm on root terminal |
08:46 | <Bacteria> | Ah, run make install when it's completed. |
08:46 | <Ply> | can you do root stuff on nautilus? It's a little annoying to not be able to do shit while using nautilus |
08:46 | <Bacteria> | Not unless you're logged in a root. |
08:46 | <Bacteria> | *as |
08:46 | <Ply> | uh |
08:47 | <Ply> | might have to check out other options :/ |
08:47 | <Bacteria> | I don't recommend staying logged in as root. |
08:47 | <Bacteria> | Too easy to break shit. |
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08:47 | <Ply> | not planning on doing that eheh |
08:48 | <Ply> | Nways, first i need to get video working right. Otherwise i wont bother much further |
08:48 | <Bacteria> | How do you play the videos? |
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08:48 | <Bacteria> | Do you use smplayer or gmplayer? |
08:49 | <Ply> | hm, new to nix. I use mpc or guiless mplayer on windows.... But other than that i'm familiar with smplayer |
08:49 | <Bacteria> | Because you will need to configure them so they use vdpau for the renderer |
08:50 | <Bacteria> | I'm not sure if command line mplayer automatically detects and uses vdpau or not. |
08:50 | <Ply> | oh, it's done |
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08:51 | <Bacteria> | make install |
08:51 | <Bacteria> | Yeah, by default if you run mplayer in the command line it wont use vdpau |
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08:52 | <Ply> | so install smplayer? |
08:52 | <Bacteria> | So you will have to either tell it via the flag -vo vdpau or use something like smplayer |
08:52 | <Bacteria> | Yeah |
08:53 | <Ply> | ok... got it |
08:53 | <Ply> | how do i set it up so that it uses that mplayer though |
08:53 | <Bacteria> | Fire up smplayer then go options -> preferences -> video |
08:54 | <Bacteria> | Change output driver to vdpau |
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08:54 | <Bacteria> | Hit apply and okay. |
08:54 | <Ply> | i don't see the option for vdpau |
08:55 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
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08:56 | <Ply> | oh |
08:56 | <Ply> | i did make install again |
08:56 | <Ply> | and it worked |
08:56 | <Bacteria> | So it's there now? |
08:56 | <Ply> | yeah |
08:56 | <Bacteria> | Nice. |
08:56 | <Bacteria> | Try it out. |
08:57 | <Ply> | :/ |
08:57 | <Ply> | 50 |
08:57 | <Bacteria> | 50% cpu? |
08:57 | <Ply> | y |
08:57 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
08:58 | <Bacteria> | Are you running this on a laptop? |
08:58 | <Bacteria> | And double check again to see if smplayer is using vdpau |
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08:59 | <Ply> | i did |
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09:00 | <Ply> | it's definitely not working |
09:00 | <Bacteria> | Hmmm. |
09:00 | <Bacteria> | I'm not sure then. |
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09:00 | <Ply> | i keep getting error initializing selected video out on mplayer :/ |
09:01 | <Bacteria> | Thats not good. |
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09:01 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
09:01 | <Ply> | i get it with any version of mplayer |
09:01 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
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09:02 | <Bacteria> | I'm not too sure then. |
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09:02 | <Bacteria> | I'm a bit sleep deprived at the moment so, I doubt I'd be able to debug it right now. |
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09:03 | <Bacteria> | It is hard when you're new to this stuff. |
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09:04 | <Ply> | unless i failed to install my video card driver correctly |
09:06 | <Ply> | 17119fps on glsgears.. and direct rendering: yes |
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09:09 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
09:09 | <Bacteria> | I'm not sure. |
09:10 | <Ply> | well thnx nways for the help :D it's appreciated |
09:10 | <Ply> | when was the nvidia script used if ever though? |
09:10 | <Ply> | I never extracted it or anything |
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09:15 | <Ply> | nm i got mplayer working. But it's still using cpu... so it might be that i screwed up somewhere |
09:16 | <Bacteria> | Oh, I forgot to check the script. |
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09:16 | <chaos> | do i need kernel support for ssd drives? |
09:17 | <chaos> | other than sata2? |
09:18 | <kevix1> | there are many latops that use ssd drives today, that it doesnt seem likely that you would have issues. |
09:20 | <Ply> | it's either a problem in my video card drivers or a problem in my compilation |
09:20 | <Bacteria> | Should only require sata drivers. |
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09:20 | <Bacteria> | Ply, if the option is there to use vdpau it means that mplayer was compiled correctly. |
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09:21 | <Ply> | but at the same time i'm chekcing on the nvidia x server settings.. and i can change everything on it |
09:21 | <Bacteria> | Hmm. |
09:22 | <Bacteria> | It's strange. |
09:22 | <Ply> | it seems to be working.. and it's the latest driver from the nvidia website |
09:22 | <Bacteria> | I'm unsure then. |
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09:23 | <Ply> | someone told me about adding the ppa repository.. is that only on ubuntu? |
09:24 | <Bacteria> | Not sure. |
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09:27 | <cahoot> | Ply: not for debian anyway |
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10:41 | <munky> | can anyone help with firefox |
10:41 | <trifolio6> | what package do i need to install proc fs ? |
10:42 | <trifolio6> | munky, what do u need to do to the firefox? |
10:42 | <munky> | it just got updated, now when opened it is a slit on the desktop, |
10:42 | <munky> | if i enlarge it it is a blank terminal |
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10:44 | <sney> | is that iceweasel, or firefox from mozilla.org? |
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10:44 | <munky> | im new to ubunto, i went in and tryed to remove it and reinstall it but its the same way |
10:45 | <sney> | ... this is not an ubuntu channel, we don't support ubuntu here |
10:45 | <sney> | please go to #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net |
10:45 | <munky> | thanks |
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10:48 | <trifolio6> | aqemu says "Add Support proc FS TO YOUR Kernel." and does not giveme access to the usb . is this a proc fs bug ? i have the default debian sid kernel: 2.6.31-1-amd64 |
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10:50 | <trifolio6> | i started m-a to see if i can find it, but i cant |
10:50 | <sney> | I think that's an older sid kernel, even testing is on 2.6.32 now. but you should still have proc support by default. is there an entry for /proc in your /etc/fstab? |
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10:51 | <trifolio6> | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
10:52 | <trifolio6> | i just tried aptitude dist-upgrade and no new kernel is there to upgrade |
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10:53 | <sney> | it's possible that you installed the specific kernel rather than linux-image-2.6-$arch |
10:53 | <sney> | I think the current one in sid is 2.6.32-6 but don't quote me on that |
10:53 | <sney> | judd: kernels |
10:53 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.32-2-686 (2.6.32-8); squeeze: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-vserver-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny3); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch1); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch1) |
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10:53 | <trifolio6> | i use nvidia drivers, maybe that has one relation |
10:54 | <trifolio6> | uname -a |
10:54 | <trifolio6> | Linux privateso 2.6.31-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Nov 16 04:44:38 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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10:54 | <sney> | but regardless, you have proc support, so aqemu must be confused |
10:55 | <trifolio6> | well, i can use my usb devices without problem, its just the aqemu that its not able to use it |
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10:56 | <sney> | look deeper into the aqemu docs or talk to their support people, they may have advice for you. I've never used any qemu so I can't help you there. |
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10:57 | <trifolio6> | ok, ill try, thx |
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11:18 | <shawncm217> | Are there any known issues with the software repositories? I'm having trouble installing and updating. |
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11:19 | <klamp> | server irc.debian.org |
11:20 | <klamp> | join debian |
11:20 | <klamp> | exit |
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11:29 | <phorce1> | fresh lenny install --- all goes well, no errors. After the install grub to mbr step --- reboot "No bootable media". (BIOS is set to prefer the HD) ... ideas? |
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11:36 | <chealer> | phorce1: on what motherboard? |
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11:38 | <phorce1> | chealer: It's an Intel something-or-other. Single IDE HD installed + IDE DVDROM |
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11:39 | <chealer> | phorce1: are you installing on a new HDD? |
11:40 | <phorce1> | chealer: empty tested pull |
11:40 | <phorce1> | so, yes, clean formatted drive |
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11:40 | <chealer> | phorce1: was that a non-expert install? did you already install Debian? |
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11:41 | <mantra> | hey how can i install an older version of a package? |
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11:42 | <phorce1> | chealer: already installed. booted to rescue mode with a shell running right now |
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11:44 | <vhann> | mantra: By adding the right repo to your sources.list? |
11:44 | <mantra> | the snapshot repo? |
11:44 | <mantra> | didnt work |
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11:44 | <mantra> | it 404s |
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11:44 | <mantra> | when i run aptitude update |
11:45 | <mantra> | someone tells me that it isnt running anymore |
11:45 | <vhann> | Find a new repo then |
11:45 | <mantra> | but its site is up |
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11:45 | <mantra> | what repo? |
11:45 | <mercutio22> | I am using debian squeeze here and for some reason the update notifier is lit in spite of there being no updates available |
11:45 | <mercutio22> | how come? |
11:45 | <Teow> | Hello. (h)top is showing all my cores being used with about 30%, but load average is 0.00 0.01 0.00. How is this possible? |
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11:47 | <mantra> | The snapshot has .debs for download, and i tried installing one, but it wants to update to the newest one when i install its dependancies |
11:47 | <chealer> | phorce1: sorry, I don't understand how you did the install. |
11:47 | <chealer> | mantra: if you don't mind, what package do you want to install? |
11:47 | <mantra> | electricsheep |
11:48 | <mantra> | it recently broke |
11:48 | <mantra> | with no fix |
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11:51 | <kevix1> | dpkg info electricsheep |
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11:51 | <dpkg> | electricsheep: (screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers), section x11, is optional. Version: 2.7~b12+svn20091224-1+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 79 kB, Installed size: 296 kB |
11:53 | <kevix1> | dpkg policy electricsheep |
11:53 | <dpkg> | kevix1: wish i knew |
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11:54 | <kevix1> | mantra: if you do not clean your /var/apt/cache, you might have it on your system? |
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11:57 | <mantra> | how do i do that? |
11:58 | <mantra> | /var/apt doesnt even exist on my system |
11:58 | <mantra> | im on testing |
11:58 | <Torsten_W> | then look in /var/cache/apt/archives |
11:59 | <mantra> | yeah theres a bunch of stuff in there |
11:59 | <mantra> | what do i do |
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12:02 | <mantra> | ok so i tried installing the older .deb off the snapshot.debian.net, but it tries to upgrade to a newer version |
12:02 | <mantra> | even when i do aptitude hold electricsheep |
12:03 | <mantra> | it still tries to upgrade when i try to install the dependencies |
12:03 | <mantra> | and shouldnt it install the dependencies automatically anyways with the .deb? it doesnt. |
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12:04 | <ignacio> | hola |
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12:04 | <ignacio> | hola |
12:05 | <ignacio> | alguien habla español? |
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12:05 | <NuD> | !es |
12:05 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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12:07 | <mantra> | Why is it so hard to install an older version of a package? I cant figure this out at all. |
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12:08 | <bremner> | !downgrade |
12:08 | <dpkg> | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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12:08 | <mantra> | Ok i tried the dpkg thing but i cant get it to stay at that version |
12:09 | <mantra> | aptitude hold doesnt work at all |
12:09 | <johan> | I want to test a testing-package in stable. Is there a smart/fast/automatic way to test if the dependencies are resolvable? |
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12:12 | <mercutio22> | the way for me to install debian testing is to download a stable netinst image and then upgrade or are there squeeze netinst images? |
12:12 | <mercutio22> | I can't find it... |
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12:13 | <johan> | mercutio22: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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12:14 | <mantra> | can i use apt pinning to keep this package at an older version? |
12:14 | <mantra> | i dont know how to really do it |
12:14 | <mantra> | is it still the /etc/apt/prefrences file? |
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12:14 | <mantra> | because i dont know if this guide is up to date |
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12:18 | <EmleyMoor> | I would like to add an obexfs to my /etc/fstab, so that I can mount the filesystem of my mobile phone with a simple "mount /phone" - but the instructions at http://dev.zuckschwerdt.org/openobex/wiki/ObexFs don't actually mount anything |
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12:28 | <kevix1> | EmleyMoor: have you looked at the debian documentation for the package and the 'man' pages (not that I know anything about obexfs) |
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12:29 | <EmleyMoor> | Maybe and yes respectively |
12:29 | <mercutio22> | johan: thanks |
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12:38 | <EmleyMoor> | It appealrs it tries but silently fails to mount when done from fstab |
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12:59 | <ludwig> | Hallo! |
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13:00 | <ludwig> | Maybe this is the wrong channel and You can advise me where to ask ... is there a way I can tell Samba to offer some kind of "All Users" Profile? |
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13:05 | <priya> | hi all |
13:05 | <priya> | good morning |
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13:05 | <priya> | got a question how do i find out my serial comport info what command line do i need |
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13:06 | <Phurl> | ok, i am using dh_make for a library and it installs everything in debian/tmp but not int he debian/package/bin |
13:06 | <Phurl> | what am i missing`? |
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13:12 | <kevix1> | Phurl: try going to #debian-mentors |
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13:24 | <bremner> | Phurl: did you read man dh_install ? |
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13:24 | <Phurl> | i will bremner |
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13:29 | <ccg> | can i set different timezones for different users ? |
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13:30 | <Phurl> | bremner, i think it was the prefix option to the make |
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13:33 | <jhutchins_lt> | ccg: What interface? |
13:34 | <ccg> | i wana run wine on a different timezone |
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13:35 | <jhutchins_lt> | ccg: You can choose time zones for the desktop. |
13:35 | <jhutchins_lt> | ccg: Not sure how that effects wine, wine probably references system time. |
13:35 | <jhutchins_lt> | ccg: Where in wine would the time matter? |
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13:43 | <uldics> | Hi! Anyone can say, where postinstall scripts are? I have deinstalled a package (netams) and now every time I install something, it shouts out, that netams post-installation script returned error exit status 1. |
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13:46 | <edhunter> | uldics: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
13:46 | <uldics> | thank you |
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13:50 | <jpinx-eeepc> | how does one alter the default fontsize in X applications that don't have that option in their own preferences? I'm using lxde desktop. |
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13:59 | <kevix1> | jpinx-eeepc: I think it uses gnome in some way, like maybe look for the gnome control panel? |
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14:02 | <phorce1> | is there a way to do a dpkg --get-selections against a root drive pulled from another system and mounted in /mnt? |
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14:03 | <locklace> | phorce1: dpkg --root=/mnt |
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14:04 | <phorce1> | locklace: thx. Waiting for "Desktop Environment" to finish installing then I'll give it a shot. Still have to grab the other 2 drives from the old system and get my mount points fixed |
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14:14 | <kevix1> | phorce1: do you recall if you still have to do 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' after 'dpkg --set-selections' ? |
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14:19 | <L3R4F> | hi |
14:19 | <L3R4F> | :D |
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14:23 | <joakin> | Hello |
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14:24 | <Phurl> | bremner, ok it builds and installs now. git@github.com:h4ck3rm1k3/libmbfl.git new package needed for hiphop php |
14:24 | <Phurl> | i am working on the hiphop php debs now |
14:25 | <joakin> | wat? |
14:25 | <Phurl> | git@github.com:h4ck3rm1k3/hiphop-php.git |
14:25 | <Phurl> | the facebook php->c++ compiler |
14:25 | <Phurl> | released today |
14:25 | <Phurl> | i am doing some deb rolling |
14:25 | <Phurl> | all help welcome |
14:25 | <joakin> | I dont speak inglish |
14:25 | <Phurl> | was sprichst du? |
14:25 | <phorce1> | kevix1: not a clue, I'm winging it at the moment. Just want to get the "--get-selections" into a file. Still have a lot of cleanup to do |
14:25 | <Phurl> | joakin, ? |
14:25 | <joakin> | I spain |
14:25 | <Phurl> | ok |
14:25 | <Phurl> | lets see |
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14:26 | <Phurl> | php hiphop es un traductor para que PHP C + + que trabajó en Facebook.Estoy construyendo Debs. |
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14:27 | <joakin> | Debs? |
14:28 | <kevix1> | !es |
14:28 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
14:28 | <Phurl> | joakin, debs = .deb files. debian/rules |
14:29 | <joakin> | ok jeje |
14:29 | <kevix1> | debian binary packages = .deb |
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14:29 | <kevix1> | Phurl: #debian-mentors might help |
14:31 | <kevix1> | Phurl: for a package to be put in the archive by a non-debian developer, you need it to be sponcored and needs to follow the debian packaging guidelines. |
14:31 | <Phurl> | kevix1, i know |
14:31 | <Phurl> | and i know the packaging needs work |
14:32 | <Phurl> | when I have it all nice and clean |
14:32 | <kevix1> | Phurl: just saying, no big deal if you make it for 'personal use' |
14:32 | <Phurl> | i will file an ITP |
14:32 | <Phurl> | yes of course |
14:32 | <Phurl> | kevix1, i know the debian/rules ;) |
14:32 | <joakin> | Wat? |
14:32 | <joakin> | xD |
14:32 | <kevix1> | Phurl: I'm sure if you give folks a url and a repo, someone might add some bits to make it work |
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14:40 | <joakin> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
14:40 | <joakin> | shit |
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14:41 | <joakin> | olalalalalalaolalalaolalalalalalllaolalalaloalallalaoala oooooo oollllaaa |
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14:42 | <joakin> | oalaoaoaaolalalaolao |
14:42 | <icebrain> | !ops joakin |
14:42 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: icebrain complains about: joakin |
14:42 | <overmind> | !es joakin |
14:42 | <joakin> | wat? |
14:42 | <@weasel> | hmm. |
14:42 | <overmind> | joakin: Try joining in #debian-es for spanish support |
14:43 | <joakin> | I dont speak inglish |
14:43 | <@weasel> | !es |
14:43 | <dpkg> | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
14:43 | <joakin> | no quiero |
14:43 | <overmind> | no quiero = I don't want |
14:43 | <Phurl> | <kevix1> Phurl: I'm sure if you give folks a url and a repo, someone might add some bits to make it work |
14:43 | <kevix1> | que quiero? |
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14:43 | <Phurl> | git@github.com:h4ck3rm1k3/hiphop-php.git |
14:44 | <Phurl> | git@github.com:h4ck3rm1k3/libmbfl.git |
14:44 | <joakin> | dejadme |
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14:44 | <kevix1> | Phurl: I think the ITP will help. |
14:44 | <Phurl> | kevix1 i will file one as soon as it builts |
14:44 | <Phurl> | ds |
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14:46 | <kevix1> | 'dejadme' = leave me alone |
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14:54 | <priya> | hi all |
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14:55 | <priya> | what program tdo i need to unxip tar files on debian lenny server linux |
14:55 | <priya> | unxip=unzip |
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14:56 | <kevix1> | there is zip for zip files, gunzip for gzip files, etc. |
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14:56 | <kevix1> | tar xzvf file.tar.gz for gziped files. |
14:56 | <kevix1> | tar xjvf file.tar.bz2 for bzip2 files |
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14:57 | <kevix1> | priya: you can do 'file myfile' to determine what kind of file it is |
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15:01 | <priya> | ok i got the file unzip |
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15:01 | <priya> | what im trying to do is install drivers for a serial comport baord i installed to my pc |
15:02 | <priya> | i have the files unzip now |
15:02 | <priya> | now i need to use command "make" but i get error |
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15:16 | <Phurl> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=570708 |
15:16 | <Phurl> | kevix1, |
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15:19 | <kevix1> | like a serial to usb converter? |
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15:20 | <kevix1> | Phurl: ah. cool. and so it begins... |
15:24 | <Phurl> | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=570709 kevix1 for the hiphop-php |
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15:32 | <Flakk> | Hello people. I have a question which is not debian specific but maybe smb would be willing to help. I am copying some folders from my notebook to the desktop through ssh2 and ethernet connection. The folders on the new place forget their date of creation, although the files (like .pdf etc) keep it. I would lik to keep the date of creation also for folders. Is it possible? how to do this? thanks |
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15:37 | <cahoot> | I get the impression rsync does what you want |
15:38 | <kevix1> | Phurl: since I have never met you in person, I just checked and we are FB friends, go figure |
15:39 | <Phurl> | yes? kevix1 i added all the gnu people i could find |
15:39 | <Phurl> | on fb |
15:39 | <Phurl> | and linux people |
15:39 | <Phurl> | etc |
15:39 | <kevix1> | well you found me :) |
15:39 | <Phurl> | hey you are a Jerseyite? |
15:39 | <Phurl> | meeeee tooo |
15:39 | <kevix1> | brooklyn |
15:39 | <Phurl> | howyadoing? |
15:40 | <kevix1> | good :_ |
15:40 | <Phurl> | ahh |
15:40 | <kevix1> | I hang out on #debian-nyc |
15:40 | <Phurl> | well, anyway great |
15:40 | <Phurl> | i am over in germany |
15:40 | <kevix1> | oh well :) |
15:40 | <Phurl> | but my heart is in nj |
15:40 | <kevix1> | well you can hang out there anyway |
15:40 | <Phurl> | ok |
15:41 | <kevix1> | and talk about the great jersey smell :) |
15:42 | <ml|> | Flakk: rsync is what you want, like cahoot said |
15:43 | <kevix1> | you can tar up files, transfer them with ssh, and then untar them. that should keep the metainfo intact. |
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15:43 | <beersss> | hi, I could use a bit of help. I am trying to run debian sid from a vitual mashine. When I try to run glx gears I get Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". I dont know where to go and load it since I dont have xorg.conf |
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15:47 | <Flakk> | cahoot, ml| thanks, my usual problam with rsync is that it is slow and loses the connection often - it does not happen with ssh2 over gftp |
15:47 | <kevix1> | beersss: the current Xorg tries to configure the settings, so most people have blank/empty xorg.conf files. |
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15:48 | <beersss> | I know why it is not there, but it dones not help me with running some programs that needs opengl |
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15:49 | <kevix1> | beersss: heh. yeah. just providing some info. |
15:49 | <beersss> | what info do you need= |
15:49 | <beersss> | ? |
15:50 | <kevix1> | I meant I was provide you with some info about why the xorg.conf was empty. |
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15:50 | <beersss> | k |
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15:51 | <ml|> | Flakk: i use it with ssh just fine |
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15:51 | <locklace> | Flakk: you can do it easily by creating/extracting a tar or cpio archive on the fly |
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15:54 | <ml|> | using rsync can't be easier, imho |
15:54 | <Flakk> | locklace: I usually copy a lot of files about half of the contents of the notebook to the desktop and other way round. Would it be ok with tar? |
15:55 | <kevix1> | 2 way sync - duplicity |
15:55 | <kevix1> | dpkg info duplicity |
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15:56 | <dpkg> | duplicity: (encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.06-3 (sid), Packaged size: 190 kB, Installed size: 920 kB |
15:57 | <locklace> | Flakk: sure. more efficient also since you're only transferring a single stream |
15:57 | <Flakk> | thanks; will try this! |
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15:58 | <kevix1> | dpkg info unison |
15:59 | <dpkg> | unison: (A file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows), section utils, is optional. Version: 2.27.57-2 (sid), Packaged size: 519 kB, Installed size: 1236 kB |
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16:01 | <Boghdan> | can any1 remind me how do i make desktop transparency working in kde4? |
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16:03 | <Flakk> | locklace, kevix1: about tar: I guess that making a tar-archiv of some folder will take about the same vol\ume as the folder itself. If that is the case it would not work for me in one of the sides: I have a small memory in my notebook, |
16:04 | <locklace> | Flakk: "on the fly" |
16:05 | <Flakk> | locklace: I am sorry, did not get it. What do you mean by this? |
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16:07 | <sead> | hi all |
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16:08 | <locklace> | you create the archive on standard output and pipe it to your transfer program, which you instruct to read from standard input |
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16:15 | <damian> | is eclipse ide recommended for java programming over debian ¿? |
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16:17 | <kevix1> | damian: if it works for you, use it. Eclipse was orignally made for Java but has other choices |
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16:19 | <damian> | what should i try kevix1 ¿? |
16:20 | <kevix1> | expermient! |
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16:20 | <kevix1> | many folks just use vim or emacs. but eclipse is good, if you like it. |
16:20 | <damian> | ok kevix1, thanks |
16:21 | <kevix1> | free as in beer! |
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16:21 | <damian> | jo jo jo |
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16:32 | <Fill23> | can i ask newbie questions here, or should i go on some dedicated chanel? |
16:33 | <kevix1> | ask away!OM |
16:33 | <Fill23> | how to install firefox? |
16:33 | <kevix1> | on a debian system? |
16:33 | <Fill23> | yep |
16:33 | <locklace> | aptitude install iceweasel |
16:33 | <amphi> | Fill23: on debian, it's called iceweasel |
16:33 | <Fill23> | it's 3.0.6 |
16:33 | <Fill23> | i wanna 3.5.0 at least |
16:34 | <locklace> | judd versions iceweasel |
16:34 | <judd> | iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1; lenny: 3.0.6-3; lenny-security: 3.0.6-3; lenny-backports: 3.5.6-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.5.6-2; sid: 3.5.8-1 |
16:34 | <kevix1> | There were issues with Mozilla that caused Debian to repackage Firefox as Iceweasle. |
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16:34 | <sead> | kevix1, which reason exactly ? |
16:34 | <kevix1> | Mozilla made demands that Debian did not like. |
16:34 | <sead> | such as ? |
16:34 | <kevix1> | relating to security support, trademark, .. |
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16:35 | <Fill23> | okay how can i update iceweasel then? |
16:35 | <kevix1> | I think the bug reports for it mentions one. |
16:35 | <ml|> | dpkg: why iceweasel |
16:35 | <dpkg> | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
16:35 | <sead> | so what are the real differences ? |
16:35 | <kevix1> | sead: not much. |
16:36 | <amphi> | Fill23: if you're on lenny, there would seem to be a backport |
16:36 | <kevix1> | differnet icon, logo, no branding, different id string. |
16:37 | <ml|> | after using iceweasel for a while I switched back to firefox |
16:37 | <Fill23> | amphi do u say that there is no 3.5.0 on lenny? |
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16:37 | <ml|> | lenny-backports: 3.5.6-1~bpo50+1 |
16:37 | <amphi> | Fill23: look at what judd said above |
16:38 | <Fill23> | okay |
16:38 | <Fill23> | this comand start iceweasel and opens "http://2.0.0.19-0etch1/" page |
16:39 | <Fill23> | wich is nowhere as i can see it |
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16:39 | <ml|> | you need bpo in sources.list /msg dpkg bpo |
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16:41 | <amphi> | Fill23: why do you need a newer version? |
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16:41 | <Fill23> | i just used to it, no other reason |
16:41 | <Fill23> | trying to lern debian |
16:41 | <Fill23> | firefox is my defoult browser |
16:41 | <Fill23> | that's it ) |
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16:42 | <amphi> | !tell Fill23 -about bpo |
16:42 | <Fill23> | where is sources.list? |
16:42 | <Kvant> | Fill23, in /etc/apt |
16:43 | <ml|> | Fill23: just follow the bpo instructions from dpkg and the site |
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16:44 | <Fill23> | i've added line under third party tab |
16:44 | <Fill23> | and get this error |
16:44 | <Fill23> | W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release: Следующие подписи не могут быть проверены, так как недоступен открытый ключ: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
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16:45 | <ml|> | again follow directions on the site |
16:45 | <Fill23> | it tels it can verify |
16:45 | <Fill23> | because there it can't find some public key |
16:45 | <Fill23> | 1. Add this line deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list. |
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16:46 | <Fill23> | okay i get it i double klickd it instead of editing file himself, my bad |
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16:48 | <Fill23> | how i can open this file under root? |
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16:48 | <Fill23> | i can't save it |
16:48 | <ml|> | what file, with what editor? |
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16:48 | <Fill23> | sources.list |
16:48 | <Fill23> | i gess default one |
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16:48 | <ml|> | :wq |
16:49 | <ml|> | guessing it's vi |
16:49 | <Fill23> | gui i mean |
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16:50 | <ml|> | you can't as regular user; just do as root nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
16:50 | <ml|> | in a terminal |
16:50 | <Fill23> | "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" this ? |
16:51 | <ml|> | yes and edit as needed, I would make a copy inscase you make a mistake first |
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16:54 | <Fill23> | okay i've edited the "sources.list" file and saved the line, after that i've run "apt-get update" under root terminal and it throw at me same error |
16:54 | <ml|> | !bpo |
16:54 | <dpkg> | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> |
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16:57 | <Fill23> | # |
16:57 | <Fill23> | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 2010013$ |
16:57 | <Fill23> | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20100131-$ |
16:57 | <Fill23> | deb http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
16:57 | <Fill23> | deb-src http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
16:57 | -!- | Fill23 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood] |
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16:58 | <ml|> | !pastebin |
16:58 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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16:59 | <Fill23> | okay i think i can live with default browser for now |
16:59 | <Fill23> | how can i install drivers for videocard? |
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17:00 | <ml|> | Fill23: ok, but if you follow dpkg directions and bpo's from site you can use 3.5 |
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17:00 | <Fill23> | i've added specifyed line at the end of the sources.list |
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17:00 | <Fill23> | and it keeps telling me about some eroor |
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17:00 | <Fill23> | error* |
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17:01 | <ml|> | pastebin your sources.list and the error |
17:01 | <Fill23> | i've tryed ^^ |
17:01 | <Fill23> | and bot kicked me |
17:01 | <Fill23> | sayd i was flooding ) |
17:01 | <jhutchins_lt> | !pastebin |
17:01 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
17:01 | <ml|> | read what dpkg has told you |
17:01 | <ml|> | and about bpo |
17:02 | <jhutchins_lt> | Fill23: That's what we mean when we say "pastebin" instead of "paste". |
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17:02 | <Fill23> | i will now post sources.list |
17:02 | <Fill23> | # |
17:02 | <Fill23> | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 2010013$ |
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17:02 | <Fill23> | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20100131-$ |
17:02 | <Fill23> | deb http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
17:02 | <ml|> | Fill23: not here |
17:03 | <Fill23> | em? |
17:03 | <simonrvn> | you don't read, do you? |
17:03 | <ml|> | read man read up |
17:03 | <Fill23> | i'm trying |
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17:03 | <Fill23> | i'm not very good with english sorry |
17:03 | <simonrvn> | so read more slowly |
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17:04 | <ml|> | dpkg ru |
17:04 | <dpkg> | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
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17:05 | <Fill23> | http://paste.debian.net/60679 |
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17:05 | <hakaishi> | can I advertise for packages here? |
17:05 | <Fill23> | ofc |
17:06 | <ml|> | Fill23: your sources.list looks fine now read what dpkg said about bpo |
17:06 | <ml|> | dpkg: tell Fill23 about bpo |
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17:07 | <simonrvn> | you probably want to comment out the other cdrom one |
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17:07 | <ml|> | yep, forgot to mention that ;) |
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17:08 | <Fill23> | like this http://paste.debian.net/60680/ ? |
17:09 | <ml|> | yes |
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17:09 | <Fill23> | okay next dpkg saying to run update "aptitude update" or "apt-get update" is that correct? |
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17:10 | <ml|> | from dpkg bpo ... Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update; just read |
17:11 | <Fill23> | aptitude update do not work |
17:11 | <Fill23> | so there is no point in runing aptitude install |
17:11 | <hakaishi> | Hi, I'm looking for a sponsor for qt-shutdown-p, a simple qt program to shutdown the system. http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/q/qt-shutdown-p AND for qt-program-starter, a qt program to start any program or command. - One can set a time, save loggings and after the process finished shutdown the system. http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/q/qt-program-starter |
17:11 | <ml|> | why? pastebin the error |
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17:12 | <ml|> | hakaishi: #debian-mentors is a better place |
17:12 | <bremner> | hakaishi: better #debian-mentors than here, and better email than IRC |
17:13 | <hakaishi> | okay, thank you ^^ |
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17:14 | <Fill23> | http://paste.debian.net/60683/ |
17:15 | <ml|> | that's fine, why you need to do the whole line |
17:16 | <Fill23> | i can paste here google translate if u want |
17:16 | <ml|> | no need |
17:16 | <Fill23> | of error mesage |
17:16 | <Fill23> | okay |
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17:21 | <Fill23> | i've tried go to russian chanel u typed here, but i need to setup koi8-r to type there and aperantly right now there is jst a few school kids how don't wanna help me ) |
17:22 | <Fill23> | they sugest me to go and kill myself couse ima noob |
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17:22 | <ml|> | ok, just try to read again what dpkg said; basically just .... aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
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17:24 | <ml|> | then after all that aptitude -t lenny-backports install “package” package in this case would be 'iceweasel' |
17:24 | <Fill23> | let's jst forget about iceweasel )) |
17:24 | <Fill23> | help me please install drivers for video card |
17:25 | <Fill23> | i want setup biger resolution for gnome |
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17:25 | <Fill23> | and for that i need to correctly identifyed video card |
17:25 | <Fill23> | am i right? |
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17:25 | <ml|> | someone maybe not I, don't use gnome |
17:25 | <Fill23> | oh sorry |
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17:26 | <ml|> | but ... lspci | grep VGA <--- should tell you the videocard you are using |
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17:29 | <Fill23> | is there command wich tells your about drivers installed on the system? |
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17:29 | <Fill23> | your comand corectly typed my video card by the way ) |
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17:31 | <locklace> | pastebin the output of "xrandr -q" |
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17:32 | <Fill23> | http://paste.debian.net/60686/ |
17:32 | <locklace> | you can use xrandr to switch between the different modes in that list; man xrandr |
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17:33 | <Chubbz> | Alright, I'm stuck. I installed debian last night but when I tried to boot, I got GRUB Hard Disk Error. I figured, hey, maybe the debian installer didn't set up grub right. So I booted into an Ubuntu Live USB and got into a grub prompt, and ran setup with no apparent errors. My HDD layout is 3 2TB sata drives, and one internal USB drive with debian on it. |
17:33 | <ml|> | yeah, lucky him :) |
17:33 | <locklace> | !reinstall grub |
17:33 | <dpkg> | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html. Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode> |
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17:35 | <Chubbz> | locklace: I have reinstalled grub... The issue is that the stage1 for some reason cant mount the stage 2 |
17:36 | <locklace> | then it isn't really installed |
17:37 | <Chubbz> | locklace: no, its installed all right. When I boot in with a live CD, the /boot looks fine |
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17:39 | <Fill23> | locklace >> mainframe:/home/fill# xrandr -s 1280x960 |
17:39 | <Fill23> | Size 1280x960 not found in available modes |
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17:39 | <Fill23> | works in windows |
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17:39 | <Fill23> | resolution i mean |
17:40 | <ml|> | as a regular user |
17:40 | <Fill23> | nope as root |
17:40 | <Fill23> | or u telling me to run it as regular? |
17:40 | <ml|> | yes |
17:40 | <Fill23> | ok |
17:41 | <Fill23> | same |
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17:43 | <ml|> | try the other examples of the man page |
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17:51 | <Fill23> | ok thx for help every one, will go try to sleep :) |
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17:59 | <noms> | anybody there |
17:59 | <Chubbz> | yup |
18:00 | <noms> | i have tried slackware, suse, ubuntu, redhat at work a little |
18:00 | <noms> | one idea I personally would like to see implemented is a little more bundling of debian base setups. |
18:01 | <azeem_> | ? |
18:01 | <azeem_> | noms: you mean you want to contract somebody on implementing this? |
18:01 | <noms> | what i mean is selecting base desktop, and some other bullet items like developer, emacs, |
18:01 | <noms> | i selected the base desktop |
18:02 | <noms> | but it brought in a newer version of the compiler than the kernel was compiled with |
18:02 | <azeem_> | and? |
18:02 | <noms> | no i am not ready to contract anyone but just offering an idea |
18:03 | <azeem_> | it's not clear what your idea is |
18:03 | <noms> | when you select the base desktop system you don't really know, at least at install time what packages are being selected for yoy |
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18:04 | <noms> | and there are waay too many packages for myself to keep track of. |
18:04 | <azeem_> | noms: how is this a problem? |
18:04 | <azeem_> | you want a desktop, you get a desktop |
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18:04 | <azeem_> | ... |
18:05 | <ml|> | ;0 |
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19:06 | <Rollout> | question: just installed Debian (unstable) on my laptop, it has the built in 2200bg wireless network card. It is not working. Dmesg finds ieee80211 (not sure if that is it or not. Anyone know a way to get it working? |
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19:15 | <amphi> | !ipw2200 |
19:15 | <dpkg> | ipw2200 is the driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 and 2915 802.11a/bg chipsets, included in kernels since 2.6.15. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-ipw2x00 package. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
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19:54 | <dshuang> | hi, i just read debian reference manual, it says net-tools is now obsolete. Can i install iproute and remove net-tools? thank you |
19:55 | <dshuang> | I used lenny, and i am a newbie. |
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19:57 | <dondelelcaro> | dshuang: a lot of things still use ifconfig et al, even though it is obsolete |
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19:57 | <dondelelcaro> | dshuang: you can certainly install iproute, though |
19:58 | <jhutchins_lt> | judd: versions net-tools |
19:58 | <judd> | net-tools -- etch: 1.60-17; lenny: 1.60-22; sid: 1.60-23; squeeze: 1.60-23 |
20:00 | <dshuang> | Got it , thanks dondelelcaro. |
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20:13 | <rjent> | With respect to conferencing tools like skype and ekiga which is better? |
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20:16 | <adb> | rjent, is skype in debian ? |
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20:16 | <simy> | Hello all! |
20:16 | <rjent> | I think you can add an entry in sources.list |
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20:17 | <rjent> | adb, sorry did not prefix with your id: I think you can add an entry in sources.list |
20:17 | <simy> | I'm going to be upgrading my computer soon and I'm wondering what is the best supported mid end video-card (looking for around $100-$200) also, any mobo preferences that work better with linux in general or is it all fair game? |
20:18 | <icebrain> | simy: try ##hardware at irc.freenode.net |
20:19 | <simy> | yeah? |
20:19 | <simy> | they linux orientated? |
20:19 | <icebrain> | simy: yes, i believe so |
20:19 | <adb> | sometimes .. |
20:19 | <simy> | ok |
20:19 | <simy> | lol |
20:20 | <simy> | I want opengl 3 support but every card i look at has some issues with some models, like this one nvidia card with gddr5 |
20:20 | <simy> | ive been out of hardware for awhile, lol |
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20:34 | <flor> | hi I've just tried to install debian (testing) with root on lvm on raid, but the resulting system does not boot correctly; it says: http://pastebin.com/d4a4473ce |
20:34 | <flor> | Does anyone know what I could try to fix it ? |
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21:10 | <crplague> | pidgin cant connect to msn no more "our protocol is not supported" what happened |
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21:12 | <gsimmons> | crplague: Known issue, see Debian bug #559982. You would want to use a backported pidgin package ; /msg dpkg bpo |
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21:18 | <_ivanko3> | Hello everyone! |
21:19 | <_ivanko3> | Does anybody have problems with broken dependencies of nvidia-glx in Squeeze? |
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21:51 | <meowcats> | MemFree: 31696 kB :( |
21:53 | <montyboy> | 702384k :( |
21:54 | <montyboy> | oh damn, just noticed the number of places meowcats |
21:54 | <umang> | Hi, Is there a metapackage for Debian that installs everything a basic installation does. Analogous to the ubuntu-desktop package on Ubuntu (bad word, I know). |
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21:56 | <meowcats> | yes it happens when i access a large file :( |
21:56 | <meowcats> | cache does through the roof |
21:58 | <meowcats> | MemTotal: 4060568 kB ;) |
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22:29 | <adb> | hi, epiphany-browser crashed trying to change something in about:config, after that even i open it , it try forever to load i donno what .. it do that even i purged and reinstalled , any fix ? |
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22:36 | <CarlSagan> | hello everybody. i was wondering if anyone here was familiar with older versions of debian for older computers (like, 2.2 potato) and pcmcia cards. i'm having trouble getting mine to get recognized, and i don't know where to start in the /etc/pcmcia/config file. |
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22:38 | <Bacteria> | Does the config file have its own man page? |
22:39 | <goodger> | CarlSagan: even on older computers, the lack of support and security updates makes it a very bad idea to run an obsolete operating system |
22:39 | <gsimmons> | CarlSagan: Any particular reason why you're using Potato on your system? |
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22:40 | <CarlSagan> | it can't handle much else, really. it's an old toshiba satellite 110cs. 22 megs of ram and 100 megahertz. something like 800 mb harddrive. |
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22:41 | <CarlSagan> | i just want to put an old version of x and maybe some other nifty linux odds and ends so i can learn more about how linux works with it. apt-get seemed the quickest way to do so. ( none of my other computers have floppy drives, and the 110cs does'nt have a cd-rom drive. |
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22:47 | <kop> | CarlSagan: Use emdebian. |
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22:48 | <adb> | well a reboot resolved my issue .. |
22:49 | <kop> | How would I allow a user to mount, but be able to specify -o ro. The only thing I can think to do is have 2 mount points, one for rw and one for ro, in fstab. Seems a bit ugly. |
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22:53 | <kop> | I'm using minicom to interact with and log a serial console. The only problem is that if I go back and look at the logs it's very difficult to tell when something happened. I'd like to be able to insert --[mark]-- sort of lines as happens in the system logs. The only way I can think to do this is to hack minicom. Anybody have a better suggestion? |
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22:55 | <kop> | Changing $PS1 or some such to include a timestamp would be a step forward, but it does not help if there's no user interaction and the system crashes or spontainously reboots or some such. |
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23:08 | <kop> | Humm. A cron job that writes to the console every so often might work.... I wonder howto tell if there's someone logged in on the console. |
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23:13 | <sney> | kop: 'who' shows who is logged in and on what interface |
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23:19 | <kop> | sney: I was thinking of using ps. Maybe who would be better.... |
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23:22 | <kop> | sney: ps has -t but who feels safer somehow. |
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