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00:34<musixuser>I am looking for information concerning musix
00:34<musixuser>Do you know if I am in the right place? Or do you know where to find it.
00:34<musixuser>I am new to this system and need some information.
00:35<musixuser>muxix is based on Debian, I believe
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00:36<jar>he obviously was a very patient man
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00:40<priya>hi all
00:40<priya>i have a question about serial port
00:42<priya>i installed a moschip serial port baord to my pc installed the driver but when i go and ceck the serial ports i get smething totally diff info about the port than the info from the serial port o my motherboard
00:43<priya>ttyS0 is what is see for the serial board that on my motherboard but what does ttyD0 mean
00:44<priya>ttyD0 is the info from my add on serial port board should it not be ttyS1
00:44<priya>pleas help maybe its not installed right
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00:57<JustRob>Likely an old question...are there any console based word processors? Not TeX interpreters or even fancy text editors, something on par with old version of word perfect or so.
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01:37<Slydder1>LOL!!! -> http://xkcd.com/705/
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01:56<andrew1618>how would I add non-free and contrib to my sources?
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01:57<goodger>andrew1618: for every line beginning ftp or http in /etc/apt/sources.list, add "non-free contrib" to the end after "main" (with a space, of course)
01:57<jm_>with an editor
01:57<goodger>though you should exercise caution in doing that for sources other than the official debian repositories, as they are not always supported
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02:08<andrew1618>goodger: Ok fair enough, thankyou. I'm just reading the man file for the sources.list.d directory
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02:24<andrew1618>now this sources.list man file could be cleaned up a little to make it more readable, is it possible to do this and then submit it?
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03:06<andrew1618>goodger: once I've added that do I need apt to update?
03:06<goodger>andrew1618: yes, you'll need to run aptitude update after every change to that file
03:06<goodger>(and apt-file update, etc etc if you use other such programs)
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03:08<andrew1618>goodger: or 'apt-get update'?
03:09<goodger>andrew1618: indeed
03:10<andrew1618>goodger: ahh its so nice not having to compile from source (came over from gentoo)
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03:11<andrew1618>goodger: Next question. Is it worth trying to install flash for ice-weasel or would it be easier to just install firefox and go from there?
03:11<goodger>andrew1618: indeed; the facilities exist to download and automatically compile the source of these packages, but they go virtually unused
03:12<goodger>andrew1618: iceweasel is just firefox without the branding, due to mozilla's trademark people being babyish, so you should just use iceweasel
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03:12<andrew1618>goodger: I just don't see the point in compiling everything from source if you are a desktop user.
03:13<goodger>you'll find a flashplugin-nonfree package in the nonfree repository, I think
03:13<jar>andrew1618: i don't think he does either if he's switching
03:13<jar>:P
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03:13<jar>btw, hi goodger
03:13<jar>:)
03:13<jar>oops
03:13<andrew1618>goodger: are there any easy ways to install flash via apt-get? I'm guesing aptitude is a front end for apt?
03:13<jar>andrew1618: sorry, i thought goodger said that
03:13<jar>:P
03:13<andrew1618>jar: yes it wore thin after about 9 months
03:14<jar>andrew1618: i used to write ebuilds.
03:14<andrew1618>yes indeed he did
03:14<jar>:[
03:14<andrew1618>jar, you poor thing!
03:14<jar>i think that mind fsck took 5 years at least off my life
03:14<goodger>andrew1618: apt-get is also a frontend for apt, and see above for the flash plugin package
03:14<jar>goodger: i think you meant apt-get is a frontend for dpkg
03:15<goodger>jar: actually, apt-get and aptitude are both frontends of the APT library, which in turn is a package manager that works with dpkg but is not a frontend of it
03:15<jar>goodger: not to be a douche but isn't that like saying gimp is a front-end to gtk?
03:15<jar>:x
03:16<goodger>no, it is like saying GIMP is a frontend to libgimp that works with libjpeg
03:17<jar>fair enough
03:18<goodger>this is, at least, my understanding of the issue; others have different definitions of various things
03:19<jar>nah, you're good
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03:21<ur301ur0u>hello. i removed some apps i thought i didn't need and now i'm experiencing a few problems.
03:21<jar>so reinstall them
03:21<jar>=]
03:21<seeS>brilliant idea!
03:21<ur301ur0u>didn't make notes of what they were
03:22<jar>well then
03:22<jar>that sucks
03:22<jar>id check the apt log
03:22<goodger>jar: you needn't be so abrasive
03:22<cahoot>ur301ur0u: look in /var/log/aptitude
03:22<jar>cahoot: not everyone uses aptitutde :p
03:22<jar>goodger: just my personality
03:22<goodger>they should >_>
03:22<jm_>or dpkg.log
03:22<ur301ur0u>i found apt-get loads faster
03:22<ur301ur0u>only reason i use it over aptitude
03:23<cahoot>ur301ur0u: look in /var/log - then, there are a few to choose from
03:23<jm_>another option - it's likely those packages were removed but not purged
03:23<ur301ur0u>yeah. i see it
03:23<ur301ur0u>no i purged them
03:24<jar>yeah, i always purge too
03:24<cahoot>according to personality?
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03:26<jmm>hi.
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03:57<shaggy_>why doesn't update-grub exist on my system?
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03:58<cahoot>shaggy_: /usr/sbin/update-grub?
04:00<shaggy_>nope
04:00<shaggy_>and my kernel is failing to confiure because it can't run update-grub because its not there ...
04:00<goodger>shaggy_: try reinstalling grub-pc and see if that helps you
04:01<shaggy_>grub-common isn't installl and for some reason grub-pc doesn't have grub-common listed as a dependancy?
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04:02<jm_>of course it does
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04:03<shaggy_>hmm apt complained that grub-common wasn't going to be installed
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04:04<goodger>it will have complained because it couldn't install it
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04:04<goodger>check why
04:04<shaggy_>hmm how would i do that?
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04:04<mix22891>Hi. the bluetooth software on debian dsnt work
04:04<shaggy_>i just install grub-common anywhere
04:04<shaggy_>anyway*
04:06<shaggy_> grub-pc: Depends: grub-common (= 1.98~20100126-1) but 1.98~20100128-1.2 is to be installed
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04:06<shaggy_>wants a specific verision of grub-common? and later on would be installed?
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04:07<goodger>shaggy_: grub-pc wants an older version of grub-common
04:07<shaggy_>thats what i ment
04:07<mix22891>what bluetooth program shuld i have to use?
04:07<kenyon>!tell mix22891 about bluetooth
04:08<shaggy_>hmm .. so is that a problem everybody SID is having ...? unless i have bad repos ..?
04:09<cahoot>ISTR there was a bug report for grub in sid a few days ago
04:09<shaggy_>hmm i have apt-listbugs installed .. and it didn't complain yet.
04:11<kenyon>shaggy_: you probably just need to aptitude update again. looks like you have an old version of grub-pc.
04:11<tom_>hello i want to install drivers for radeon7000, before i plug in the graphics card
04:11<tom_>computer currently has rage128
04:12<tom_>what command do you type?
04:12<kenyon>!tell tom_ about radeon
04:12<shaggy_>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
04:12<shaggy_>nothing to upgrade?
04:13<kenyon>shaggy_: what version of grub-pc do you have?
04:13<tom_>kenyon: thanks, i will install using aptitude
04:14<shaggy_>gg: 1.98~20100126-1
04:14<shaggy_>grub-pc 1.98~20100126-1
04:15<kenyon>shaggy_: so you see the problem
04:15<shaggy_>no ...
04:15<kenyon>shaggy_: you just need to wait for your mirror to catch up
04:15<shaggy_>aww... im using ftp.debian.org
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04:15<kenyon>this is what happens when you run unstable
04:16<kenyon>ftp.debian.org is not a single machine
04:16<shaggy_>yeh i have heard...
04:16<kenyon>judd: versions grub-pc
04:16<shaggy_>my local ftp.debian.org isn't caught up yet
04:16<judd>grub-pc -- etch-backports: 1.96+20080626-1~bpo40+2; lenny: 1.96+20080724-16; lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1.98~20100115-1; sid: 1.98~20100128-1.2; experimental: 1.98~experimental.20100120-1
04:16<shaggy_>my mirror is behind. thats intresting...
04:16<shaggy_>how can i check thats status of where its supposed to be?
04:17<shaggy_>here with dpkg i think?
04:17<DarkSidious>Hi all people, sorry for my english, i need help about starting application when nothink people was connect, please
04:17<kenyon>shaggy_: I don't know, but not with dpkg.
04:17<shaggy_>i ment here isn't there a bot called dpkg ? not the command lol
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04:18<kenyon>shaggy_: yes, but dpkg bot here won't help. I just showed you the output of another bot which has the latest version info.
04:18<shaggy_>kenyon which bot was that?
04:19<DarkSidious>I explain, i had install a nxserver and a ftp server but when i logout my session or when i boot my computer and nothink people was loggon on the computer my server don't start, could you help me, please ?
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04:19<kenyon>!tell shaggy_ about judd
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04:21<ranjan>hello every body
04:21<shaggy_>kenyon thanks!
04:21<cahoot>shaggy_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=568001 - convinced me to use squeeze's grub
04:22<shaggy_>keyon: i will have to rember one
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04:22<DarkSidious>Nothink people can help me, please ?
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04:22<ranjan>i am having an proble with an .rar file i have locked with an pass word i now i have forgaten it's pass word so is there ny body who can help me in this aspect .. thanks in advance i am trying to use the rar crack for this
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04:23<cahoot>!rar
04:23<dpkg>[rar] Roshal ARchive, a proprietary archive format used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz, or the worst archive format ever. To extract RAR3 archives (the most common archive version), use either "rar", "unrar" or "p7zip-rar" in non-free, ask me about <non-free sources>. "unrar-free" is unable to extract RAR3 archives. Install the rar package to create RAR archives. http://www.rarlab.com/ http://www.unrarlib.org/faq.html
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04:24<shaggy_>cahoot: hmm sounds scary.. haha. id reinstall grub from like knoppix live or somthing
04:24<shaggy_>cahoot: end up with the 1.X series instead of 2
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04:24<cahoot>shaggy_: no it's grub-pc 210100115
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04:25<cahoot>shaggy_: 1.98~20100115-1
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04:25<shaggy_>cahoot: okay 2 Beta right? i ment if it was frozen up like that id reinstall grub 1.X instead of 2 Beta
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04:26<shaggy_>I thought grub 1.97 was 2 Beta 2?
04:26<cahoot>shaggy_: I don't know - but that version works fine here
04:26<cahoot>(on a sid system)
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04:27<shaggy_>The unstable works good on the sid? id expect that its self contained right? i mean i could install any boot loader i wanted
04:27<shaggy_>nltdr? Lilo grub 1.X 2.X etc?
04:27<cahoot>shaggy_: sid *is* unstable
04:28<shaggy_>sorry testing*
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04:28<shaggy_>i ment the testing works good on sid? id ...
04:28<shaggy_>testing release of grub
04:29<cahoot>shaggy_: as I said - it does here
04:29<shaggy_>i was agreeing with you. im sure the lenny verision would work fine too?
04:30<cahoot>beyond me
04:30<shaggy_>not that you can do that with any package but isn't grub self containd
04:30<shaggy_>it wouldn't be like a library dep issue.
04:30<shaggy_>just all you need is an installed boot loader
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04:30<kenyon>shaggy_: if you think so, try it and see.
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04:31<cahoot>shaggy_: aptitude show grub-pc
04:31<shaggy_>kenyon: what do you think?
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04:31<kenyon>shaggy_: I don't care.
04:31<shaggy_>i could competly remove grub and install
04:31<shaggy_>lilo or use ntldr if i wanted ... ? why nt care point is it possble not practical or wil you do it?
04:32<shaggy_>Thanks for help guys i leave you alone
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04:39<klsjfklsjfklj>is there any way to remove grub?
04:39<goodger>yes, but it's probably a bad idea
04:39<koollman>klsjfklsjfklj: sure. but you need to put something in its place, else your system will not boot
04:40<klsjfklsjfklj>there is no system
04:42<koollman>so what's the point of keeping or removing grub ? (you can overwrite the mbr...)
04:42<klsjfklsjfklj>nm. rebooting
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04:42<DarkSidious>Please, help :D
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04:43<goodger>:/
04:43<goodger>DarkSidious: go ahead, we're listening/reading
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04:45<DarkSidious>I had install a ftp server and nx server on my debian (testing)
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04:45<DarkSidious>but when i loggout my session or when nothink people was loggon
04:45<DarkSidious>this both server don't start
04:45<DarkSidious>Both server start just when i loggon on a session
04:46<DarkSidious>Do you have any solution for me, please ?
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04:46<DarkSidious>Before i work on windows2003 server and when your loggout or not loggon all service started
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04:49<kenyon>DarkSidious: make sure your services are set to start at boot
04:49<kenyon>!tell DarkSidious about bum
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04:50<DarkSidious>actually i have just the standard script from nomachine in /etc/init.d/
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04:50<DarkSidious>And when i loggon in a session the both server start
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04:51<DarkSidious>(and script from pure-ftpds)
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04:52<alfadir>:q
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05:43<vvas>hey all
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05:44<kenyon>!all
05:44<dpkg>All: no such nick/channel. Just ask your question, please - ask me about <ask>. a brand of laundry detergent in the United States, and it's not expected that this will answer, either.
05:44<vvas>a friend of mine just emailed me, he says they're finally migrating away from gentoo in his workplace and of course he wants to persuade them to go for Debian
05:45<vvas>so i was wondering if anyone has resources to convince the "manager" types, maybe a list of large deployments, or a thorough document of advantages, or something?
05:45<jm_>!why debian
05:45<dpkg>Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian). As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian.
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05:45<jm_>the answer is no, not anyone has it
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05:45<fx0>what the fuck a I supposed to do when you're fucking shithead apt doesn't let me neither install nor remove udev?!
05:45<cahoot>why would a serious organisation nned to be convinced to turn to debian from gentoo?
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05:46<fx0>just whining about some useless shit
05:46<dondelelcaro>fx0: it'd help if you gave us the error messages
05:46<dondelelcaro>(though it's becoming increasing difficult to have a system without udev)
05:46<fx0>it'd help if the maintainers once did their job
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05:47<vvas>cahoot: their moving away from gentoo at this point is a given; their moving to Debian though is not
05:47<dondelelcaro>fx0: uh... udev works fine here. If you have a problem and you want us to help, you have to give us the exact output from apt-get.
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05:47<fx0>Since release 150, udev requires that support for the CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED
05:47<fx0>feature is disabled in the running kernel.
05:48<dondelelcaro>fx0: yes, so you need to upgrade your kernel, reboot, and then upgrade udev.
05:48<fx0>"upgrade the kernel!" yeah, but apt is now fucked up
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05:48<jm_>bitten by sid? hahahaa
05:49<dondelelcaro>vvas: there are lots of reasons; what dpkg listed is a start. Specific reasons depend on the type of deployment and the resources available at the company
05:49<fx0>yup, because stable and testing have some god know how old php
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05:50<AlmaMorena>Hi, I've a problem about my ati driver for two days. I can not find any solutions. Could anybody help me about this?
05:50<kenyon>!ask
05:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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05:52<vvas>hm, not much in these pages is particularly striking, but they can help compile a list of advantages i guess
05:53<AlmaMorena>I've downloaded and installed my ati driver from ati website. But then my mouse has disappeared. I have changed my xorg.conf file for many times, and looked many sites but I can not find any solution. so I want to ask here
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05:54<bremner>AlmaMorena: do you absolutely need to use that driver? The free radeon driver is working pretty well these days.
05:55<bremner>i.e. the one included with xorg
05:55<vvas>that, of course, would depend on how bleeding edge his system is
05:55<Minase>hello i have *again* a problem with my debian system
05:55<babilen>Minase: consider it solved
05:55<Minase>it does randomly freeze
05:56<Minase>i mean no I/O ,black screen
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05:57<babilen>anything in the logs? have you tested your hardware? anything in particular you do that might cause this issue?
05:57<kenyon>!tell Minase about hardware problem
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05:58<AlmaMorena>No, I don't have to use that driver. But I cannot uninstall that driver, too. I'm removing fglrx from synaptic. But there is no changes. I can only see my mouse when I change my xorg.conf files's fglrx to vesa.
05:58<jm_>compare X logfile for both
05:59<Minase>looked at that and it's nothing from there
06:01<Minase>sensors command tell me that voltages have warnings
06:01<Minase>but it's false
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06:02*delf hello ;]
06:02<Minase>+12V: +11.86 V (min = +8.57 V, max = +4.44 V) ALARM
06:03<Minase>M/B Temp: +32.0°C (high = -128.0°C, hyst = +32.0°C) ALARM sensor = thermistor
06:03<Minase>CPU Temp: +25.5°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = diode
06:03<babilen>!tell Minase -about paste
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06:03<Minase>sorry forgot about paste :)
06:04<Minase>so any hint about this "problem" looked in kernel logs and i dont see anything wrong
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06:04<Minase>should i look after something special or?
06:05<jm_>are keyboard leds blinking when it happens?
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06:05<Minase>nope
06:05<Minase>complete freeze
06:05<Minase>keyboard leds remain how they were
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06:08<Minase>32-bit I/O has something to do with it? now it's disabled
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06:10<Minase>1 question
06:11<Minase>can a TV tunner cause this problem ,i know it can be anything,but the thing is that i dont use the TV tunner,and it's not installed
06:11<Minase>it's a WINFAST 2000XP
06:12<jm_>there's no point in guessing, shitloads of things can cause it
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06:12<Minase>yeah how i was thinking...
06:12<Minase>for crash in what logs should i look
06:12<Minase>?
06:13<jm_>i recommend serial console
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06:14<Minase>that requires another hardware right?
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06:15<jm_>another machine or a proper terminal yes
06:15<Minase>dang
06:15<Minase>thank you for all your help i will see what i can do
06:16<jm_>or see if you can reproduce it in text mode
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06:16<jm_>(or at least without X)
06:16<Minase>im not running X
06:16<Minase>they start but i dont use them,it's a server
06:17<Minase>right now i will delete them
06:17<Minase>have KDE and GNOME installed
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06:17<jm_>ok so then at least ensure X doesn't start, and disable blanking
06:17<Minase>sorry to ask but whats blanking
06:17<Minase>?
06:17<jm_>screen saver
06:18<jm_>i.e. /etc/console-tools/config
06:18<Minase>oh,if i remove gnome,and kde and it does start in text mode ,no more screensaver right ? :P
06:18<jm_>no, there is one too, see above
06:19<Minase>yes i found it
06:19<Minase>:)
06:19<Minase>0 should do ?
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06:20<jm_>well read the comments, you can also do it manually with setterm command
06:20<Minase>if i set the blanking off
06:20<Minase>then powerdown time will never occure :)
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06:22<sander_m>Hi all. I just had a power outage here. When the power returned, my Squeeze machine refused to boot. Grub loads fine but when Linux loads I get: "List of all partitions" and "No filesystem could mount root, tried:" and then a kernel panic. That's for kernel 2.6.32-trunk-amd64. Luckily I always keep a few old kernels around. Booting kernel 2.6.30-amd64 works just fine. Any ideas what is wrong?
06:22<goodger>sander_m: did you recently switch to ext4?
06:23<sander_m>goodger: Nope. All my filesystems are ext3 or xfs. Note that I do use mdadm with lvm on top.
06:23<sander_m>goodger: and my /boot is on LVM too (thanks to grub2)
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06:25<ikarus>md raid 1 ?
06:25<sander_m>ikarus: Yes.
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06:26<sander_m>I noticed something else. In my grub.cgf, the 2.6.32 kernels do noit have an initrd line. The 2.6.30 kernels do.
06:26<sander_m>Is that correct?
06:26<sander_m>s/niot/not
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06:34<goodger>sander_m: it is not. try running update-initramfs and update-grub and seeing if the situation changes
06:34<sander_m>goodger: Okay, will do
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06:36<sander_m>goodger: Manyally adding the missing initrd lines to grub.cfg solved the issue. Now I will remove them again and see what update-initramfs and update-grub have to say about that.
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06:37<mao_>hello
06:37<goodger>sander_m: righto.
06:37<mao_>how are you doing today, guys?
06:37<kevix1>I was trying to use rmadison and it was not responding. anyone able to use rmadison?
06:37<kevix1>it was working of --url=ubuntu.
06:37<bremner>seems dead for me too. Maybe to do with outage of merkel.d.o
06:38<mao_>http://i.imgur.com/WEI85.jpg oh nice
06:38<kevix1>bremner: oh? there is an outage for merkel?
06:38<bremner>kevix1: I don't know the details, but see topic of #debian-devel
06:38<babilen>kevix1: it's listed as FUCKED on #d-d
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06:38<kevix1>bremner: thanks!
06:39<kevix1>very informative topic :)
06:40<sander_m>goodger: Running update-grub added the initrd lines back in grub.cfg. Thanks for your help!
06:40<goodger>huzzah!
06:40<goodger>sander_m: you are most welcome
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06:56<lastfeel>ciao ha tutti
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06:57<lastfeel>ho un problema urgente con un mail server che usa postfix
06:57<babilen>!it
06:57<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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06:57<babilen>lastfeel: Or speak English in here :)
06:57<lastfeel>ok
06:57<lastfeel>so i have a problem with postfix
06:58<lastfeel>because when a client try send mail trou my mail server
06:58<lastfeel>the try to resolv the hostname of the client
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07:00<lastfeel>i tried with disable_dns_lookups = no
07:00<lastfeel>but nothing
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07:07<babilen>lastfeel: Not sure, would have suggested the disable_dns_lookups. You might want to ask in #postfix @ irc.freenode.net
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07:17<ansgar>lastfeel: Shouldn't it be "disable_dns_lookups = yes"?
07:17<babilen>hehe
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07:18<themill>double negatives ftw
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07:33<bremner>do y'all think I should care if a budget VPS is using Xen or KVM? Xen seems much more common.
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07:35<lastfeel>i prefer xen
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07:41<BigRedS>I have a sid box where /home's just died. I've stuck a new disk in, created ~ (/home/avi) and made it all mine, but neither Gnome nor XFCE will log on, they appear to hang just after entering my password. Fluxbox works, though. I've tried creating a new user, which also suffers the same problems. While 'hanging' I can get at ttys, and gconf-2 keeps bouncing off the top of iotop. I can write to ~, and Gnome has created several dotfiles that aren't in ske
07:42<khades>chown -R avi /home/avi ?
07:42<BigRedS>yeah, done that
07:42<BigRedS>well, chown -R avi:avi /home/avi
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07:44<kevix1>BigRedS: can you login without a GDM and then startx or similar from the console and see if any error messages show up?
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07:48<BigRedS>kevix1: "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) "
07:48<kevix1>oh, that seems serious.
07:48<kevix1>not sure what to do though.
07:49<BigRedS>I'm mildly concerned I didn't think to try that before....
07:49<jm_>BigRedS: you can ignore the freetype error
07:49<jm_>maybe check ~/.xsession-errors insyead
07:50<jm_>instead*
07:50<kevix1>jm_: yeah. .xsessions-errors. and /var/log/Xorg.log?
07:50<jm_>actually, I suppose that should NOT be ignored for gnome and may well explain the "hang"
07:50<BigRedS>hmm, yeah, and why fluxbox works
07:51<BigRedS>that's the only error in Xorg.0.log
07:51<jm_>do you have /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so ?
07:52<BigRedS>I don't have a /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts ...
07:52<jm_>is this stable release?
07:52<BigRedS>no, sid
07:53<jm_>yeah try dpkg -S libfreetype.so
07:53<BigRedS>/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6
07:53<jm_>not sure where it should find it in sid
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07:54<jm_>maybe check the logfile to see where it finds other modules
07:54<jm_>it's quite possible this whole modules thing has been completely rewritten because sid has much newer Xorg
07:55<themill>,file libfreetype.so --release sid
07:55<judd>libfreetype.so in sid/i386: libfreetype6-dev: usr/lib/libfreetype.so; lsb-build-desktop3: usr/lib/lsb3/libfreetype.so
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07:55<jm_>i looked for that on p.d.o but it's not clear if any of those fits
07:55<BigRedS>modulepath is /usr/lib/xorg/modules in xorg log
07:55<jm_>same dir then
07:55<kevix1>xserver-xorg-core has freetype
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07:56<BigRedS>apt-get is willing to install xserver-xorg-core...
07:57<jm_>would probably be best to see if other sid users get the same error
07:57<BigRedS>though dpkg -l shows it as ii
07:57<jm_>so just newer version then
07:58<BigRedS>yeah
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07:58<BigRedS>what're the chances an upgrade would pull in the module? or am I misunderstanding something?
08:00<BigRedS>urk. I'm being called away to work on something else. I'll have another crack at it this afternoon.
08:00<kevix1>have fun...
08:00<jm_>not sure, after searching for it in sid it may indeed be something else
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08:00<jm_>try some proper app in fluxbox
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08:00<jm_>(i.e. iceweasel)
08:01<BigRedS>I tried that earlier and it segfaulted
08:01<kevix1>odd. that he is having this after a dead disk for /home
08:01<jm_>tried it as new user with empty profile?
08:01<BigRedS>no, not iceweasel
08:01*BigRedS tries
08:02<BigRedS>whoops. tried to get into gnome
08:02<kevix1>I would have not mounted the new disk, tried to make a new users, and if that started, tar'd it up and then move it to the new disk and see if it worked there?
08:05<BigRedS>Right, gotta disappear. Cheers for the help, I'll try creating new users on the / disk when I get back
08:05<BigRedS>cheers!
08:05<jm_>i have sid at home but haven't updated it for qutie a while so my X is still old
08:06<jm_>can't check this module thing
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08:32<usuario>hola
08:32<usuario>kien sois oi es mi primert diaq
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08:39<Blob>I have to 'sudo chmod 777 /dev/snd/*' every time I start my system in order to be able to get sound with my regular user. Else alsamixer only works as root. Why do I have to redo chmod every time I reboot?
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08:39<Blob>shouldn't /dev/snd/* be changed permanently?
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08:40<jm_>what's the ownership of the files?
08:40<Blob>jm_: root and group audio
08:40<jm_>Blob: is your user not in group audio? how about permissiosn for /dev/snd dir?
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08:41<Blob>It works when I chmod, but I don't understand why I have to chmod every time I boot. Yes, my user is is in audio
08:41<Blob>oh sorry, I have to go. I'll be back in an hour.
08:41<jm_>so you shouldn't need to chmod anything
08:42<jm_>come here without touching anything to debug the issue
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08:47<dpkg>If you do not know how to use chmod but ask for a lesson in "Chmod 101" classes, we feel sorry for you, or simple octal, with r=4 w=2 x=1. rwxr-xr-- = (rwx) (r-x) (r--) = (4+2+1) (4+0+1) (4+0+0) = 754. or ask me about <Permissions>
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09:45<zeroXten>any recommended ways of generating entropy for gpg goodness? over an ssh connection tho, so no access to anything attached.
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09:52<amphi>zeroXten: disk activity? recursive grep / ?
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09:53<zeroXten>amphi: i'll give it a go.. would downloading an iso make a difference?
09:54<amphi>might do, dunno
09:54<zeroXten>amphi: i think the grep did the job
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09:55<amphi>good-oh
09:55<zeroXten>that will in itself be using the network to send the results
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09:59<amphi>right
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10:01<zeroXten>any idea what the various "+" "." and "<" symbols mean?
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10:04<amphi>no
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10:05<zeroXten>me neither
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10:20<Blob>ok i'm back. I can open alsamixer as root, but not as a regular user. My user is in the audio group.
10:20<cahoot>'id' agrees?
10:20<Blob>what's that
10:20<kop>Blob: It's a command.
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10:21<kop>Blob: You type it and it tells you more about who you are and what groups you're in.
10:21<Blob>kop: Well, it says i'm only in the group vboxusers and gid and uid
10:21<cahoot>Blob: you might need logout/login the user to updater groupmeberships
10:21<Blob>or way, I mean't vboxusers
10:22<kop>Blob: Did you re-login (or, e.g. run "su -l") to pick up changes to group membership.
10:22<Blob>kop: Yes, I added my user yesterday.
10:23<kop>Blob: Maybe you'd better pastebin /etc/group, because it's not right. How did you add the user to the group? (/etc/gshadow must also correspond to /etc/group as well.)
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10:23<Blob>in /etc/groups one line is: audio:x:29:root:Blob
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10:25<kop>Blob: Your user name is "Blob", with a captial?
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10:25<themill>last : should be a , too.
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10:25<Blob>yes kop
10:25<kop>themill: *doh*
10:25<kop>Blob: Better correct /etc/gshadow too.
10:26<themill>Blob: there are tools to prevent that sort of mistake. "adduser Blob audio" would be enough.
10:26<Blob>kop: but I don't have any /etc/gshadow : /
10:26<Blob>themill: aha, I didn't do that
10:26<kop>Blob: Ok. You don't have to. But it goes with /etc/shadow. Which is a good idea to have.
10:27<Blob>kop: ops sorry, I did have that file.
10:27<Blob>audio:*::Blob
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10:28<kop>Blob: And if you are going to edit manually, the right tool is vipw (even if you don't use vi, it will use the update-alternatives choice of editor.)
10:29<kop>Blob: gshadow is right. You need to re-login (or "su -l Blob") to pick up the new group.)
10:30<themill>Unfortunately, vipw wouldn't actually stop that error though, it would just assume you have a user called root:Blob
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10:30<Blob>kop: Ok that's good to know :) I'll try to reboot. Thank you
10:30<kop>!reboot
10:30<dpkg>You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>.
10:30<Blob>it's because I made a chmod 777 on /dev/snd/*
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10:31<kop>Blob: Oh. I think that will fix it. But check after reboot anyway. (Someone else might know more.)
10:32*kop digs pam
10:32<Blob>kop: Alright
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10:46<gaffa>What is the difference between version numbers X.X.X+svnXXX and X.X.X~svnXXX ?
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10:46<themill>!compare versions
10:46<dpkg>The canonical way to test whether one version string is considered greater than another is by testing an assertion such as: dpkg --compare-versions 1.1 gt 1.1~rc1 && echo true. See also http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version, or <version epoch> <debian revision>
10:47<themill>gaffa: the sort order of ~ and + is completely different. See the section in policy that dpkg just mentioned.
10:47<gaffa>Okay, I guess I'll have to read closer then ;)
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10:48<gaffa>So it has nothing to do with the last official upstream version or something like that.
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10:48<themill>gaffa: basically, 1.2.3~svn1000 is saying that it's a pre-release to version 1.2.3 while 1.2.3+svn1000 is saying that it's version 1.2.3 updated to svn commit 1000.
10:49<gaffa>Thank you! That was my guess as well.
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10:50<gaffa>..erhm I wasn't implying you were guessing. I was.
10:51<themill>:)
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11:10<andreina>Hola de nuevo
11:10<andreina>agregue al fstab /dev/sda5 /media ext4 default,rw,user,noauto 0 0
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11:10<andreina>pero aun no me deja escribir
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11:11<jmm>!br
11:11<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
11:12<andreina>au
11:12<andreina>oh!!!! sorry
11:12<jmm>hehe :)
11:12<beersss>is there a plan for debian lenny and a half?
11:13<famelix>hola
11:13<themill>andreina: or #debian-es
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11:14<famelix>hola, necesito q me guie por este sitio?
11:15<themill>famelix: #debian-es
11:15<naboul>!es
11:15<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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11:18<famelix>gracias
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11:26<marek>hey guys. i just installed backtrack 4 through vmware player. the host system is ubuntu 9.10 and i have no clue how to get the wifi network adapter working
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11:26<Torsten_W>marek, then ask the vmware guys
11:27<matjas>marek: this is debian channel try #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
11:27<Torsten_W>marek, u have no debian-specific question
11:27<marek>will do. thank you
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11:47<dba>hi
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11:48<philsf>can someone help me debug a problem in squirrelmail? I can't get it to honor the locale choosen. squirrelmail-locales is installed, this is a fresh lenny install
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11:50<dannte>Hello guys
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11:54<luuk>heey allemaal
11:54<luuk>waar wonen jullie
11:54<luuk>??
11:54<the-dude>!nl
11:54<dpkg>nl is The Netherlands. Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl.
11:54<luuk>hoi
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11:56<luukisrijk>wie is er hier online
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12:04<igormp>oi para todos
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12:11<fnmueller>http://www.n-tv.de/technik/internet/Gesetz-wird-nicht-umgesetzt-article742666.html
12:11<fnmueller>sorry, wrong chan
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12:13<elideamt>hello, I just intalled squeeze on an eee PC 1000ha and the wireless interface is to listed by ifconfig. The wireless driver module ath5k seems to be loaded though.. any ideas on what the catch is?
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12:17<elideamt>sudo aptitude install network-manager
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12:25<elideamt>noflash: should I have received a message?
12:25<elideamt>brb
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12:32<elideamt>I have no wireless possibly because the wifi device is not listed in /etc/network/interfaces. The driver module (ath5k) seems to be loaded. How should I edit the config file in order for it to be displayed?
12:33<amphi>elideamt: you see the interface in the output of ifconfig -a ?
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12:34<elideamt>amphi: no. But I see it if I type iwconfig
12:36<elideamt>amphi: wait. now I do. I did ifconfig wlan0 up
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12:46<BigRedS>To anyone around this morning helping me with not being able to log in following replacing /home, the problem's fixed now, and I found several thousand along the way. I think the biggie was some of the system not being Unstable, but still Sid (from months back).
12:46<BigRedS>Er, still Testing
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13:10<Minase>i recently removed kde and debian doesnt recognize network
13:10<Minase>what can i do?
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13:21<chealer>Minase: what do you mean by recognize network?
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13:24<jthomas_sb>Hello. How can I set Iceweasel to not load unencrypted data on a mixed encrypted/non-encrypted website? An addon would be fine.
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14:01<dkr>jthomas_sb: the noscript addon has this feature
14:02<dkr>well, at least as far as loading "active content" from non-https
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14:21<Pishguy>Hi all , who to convert downloaded webpage to pdf
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14:22<kevix>Pishguy: wkhtmltopdf
14:22<dkr>Pishguy: or open the page in iceweasel and print it to file and choose the pdf option
14:23<Pishguy>whats for wget ?
14:23<Pishguy>downloading with wget and convert webpages too pdf
14:24<kevix>wkhtmltopdf uses webkit and is cli
14:25<Pishguy>kevix, thst right . but i want to use wget for it
14:25<kevix>wkhtmltopdf will get the webpage for you, no wget needed
14:26<Pishguy>kevix: i can't see that , but : Forbidden Your client does not have permission to get URL /p/wkhtmltopdf/ from this server.
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14:27<DarkSidious>HI all people
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14:28<DarkSidious>i have tested with BUM but i have the same problem with my both server nx and ftp
14:28<DarkSidious>could you help me, please ?
14:29<Pishguy>who to limited local bandwidth ?
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14:29<kevix>s/who/how/
14:30<kevix>Pishguy: what url did you have problem with?
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14:30<Pishguy>kevix: for example www.debianadmins.org.
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14:31<Pishguy>kevix: downloading that and convert pages to PDF
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14:32<bja>!pie locklace
14:32*dpkg hits locklace in the face with a cream pie
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14:34<kevix>Pishguy: do you mean debianadmin.com?
14:35<Pishguy>kevix: thats example.
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14:35<kevix>debianadmins.org does not exist
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14:36<DarkSidious>Please could you help me ?
14:37<kevix>Pishguy: wkhtmltopdf http://www.debianadmin.com test.pdf (this worked for me)
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14:37<kevix>DarkSidious: I have not used BUM (the runlevel editor)
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14:39<Pishguy>kevix: Thanks :))
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14:40<DarkSidious>my problem isn't with bum
14:40<Pishguy>kevix: Links on page cant use ?
14:40<edhunter>kevix: Pishguy: it is my understanding that wkhtmltopdf (the one from the repos) can only convert one page at a time so perhaps not the best solution?
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14:40<edhunter>DarkSidious: what is the problem?
14:41<DarkSidious>I had installed a server ftp and nxserver (but it can be any server), my both server work very godd when i'm loggon in a session
14:41<Pishguy>edhunter: for any pages ?
14:41<DarkSidious>ben when i'm not loggon on a session (when i'm in the firect windows in debian)
14:41<kevix>edhunter: most tools only work on one thing at a time, I would not excect different
14:41<DarkSidious>both server doesn't work
14:41<DarkSidious>(sorry for my englidh)
14:41<DarkSidious>english
14:42<DarkSidious>i'm new on debian and before i work on windows 2003 server
14:42<edhunter>kevix: let me rephrase. say you have 3 html pages in a directory. it can not convert those 3 into one pdf but ok that might be irrelevant if you download of the net
14:42<DarkSidious>and in windows 2003server on service work when your not loggin
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14:44<kevix>edhunter: there are a few programs that can concatenate single pdfs into one multipage pdf
14:45<edhunter>DarkSidious: generally speaking services/daemons work if you are not logged in (assuming that those got started as daemons)
14:45<edhunter>kevix: any example for that?
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14:45<edhunter>Pishguy: i dont remember if htmldoc is able to convert directly of the internet
14:45<edhunter>Pishguy: try wkhtmltopdf . if that works fine
14:46<Pishguy>edhunter: i searching net for that. use both with wget
14:47<DarkSidious>edhunter: but with pure-ftpd and nxserver from nomachien not work when your loggout
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14:47<edhunter>Pishguy: so you first want to download and then convert?
14:48<Pishguy>edhunter: ???
14:48<edhunter>DarkSidious: never used pure-ftpd and dont even know what nxserver and nomachien are. at least pure-ftpd should be able to start during boot time as a daemon and it should work
14:48<Pishguy>edhunter: i dont no
14:49<edhunter>Pishguy: im a bit confused. just try whatt kevix said wkhtmltopdf http://www.debianadmin.com test.pdf
14:49<kevix>edhunter: pdftk
14:50<Pishguy>edhunter:I would like to receive intra-national and I not a file into several files
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14:50<edhunter>kevix: ok thanks
14:51<edhunter>Pishguy: what kevix posted will take the webpage and create a single pdf with the contents
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15:06<Pishguy>edhunter , kevix : I found IT : paste on : http://paste.debian.net/61120/
15:07<thomas>vu que le monrer en france c'est à mes yeux comme le dire ici... vous connaissez les conséquence d'une violence subbit avant la maternel( et même primaire je suppose mais ça c'est mon cas)(violence genre violence gratuite ou tete qui vole en étant tiré par les cheveux)?ben un enfant qui ne sait jouer... en tout cas il y en à aux moins trois en mémoire... ça crain la schyzophrenie paranoiak...
15:08<thomas>bas it's not good language
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15:08<thomas>sorry
15:08<thomas>good night
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15:09<usuario_>olaa
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15:14<kevix>!fr
15:14<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
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15:15<kevix>Pishguy: cool.
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15:17<Pishguy>kevix: i can't install psselect package. not in repo .
15:18<kevix>Pishguy: sorry to hear that. what does it do?
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15:18<kevix>Pishguy: psselct is in the psutils package
15:19<Pishguy>kevix : http://paste.debian.net/61122/
15:19<edhunter>Pishguy: perhaps its in psutils ?
15:20<Pishguy>edhunter: yes .
15:21<Pishguy>kevix: what does this problem : enscript: couldn't open input file "/tmp/webpage.pdf": No such file or directory
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15:22<kevix>Pishguy: line 1 has an error. you might need to check the sytax
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15:25<kevix>Pishguy: you can use 'wkhtmltopdf "$URL" /tmp/webpage.pdf"'
15:25<Pishguy>kevix: for all pages on one file ?
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15:31<Pishguy>kevix: can you find that command ?
15:32<kevix>Pishguy: what command?
15:32<Pishguy>kevix : convert for all pages downloaded on one file ?
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15:34<Zhila>Pishguy: learn to apt-cache search, or at least search the http://packages.debian.org website: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wkhtmltopdf
15:34<kevix>one URL = one page
15:34<Zhila>Pishguy: wait... sorry, I misunderstood your question
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15:53<lsajfskljf>i deleted the partition that linux was on. now i'm getting a "Error 22" from grub at boot. i think that means a deleted partition. i want to boot from another partition on the same device, but i cant seem to erase the mbr to get rid of the current grub loader
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15:55<MeglaW>hum, i got a problem here. i got a lappy that i just booted up from floppys (cd broke), and its when i get to select mirrors, it says unvalid mirror, my guess is its old floppys so its looking for etch or something, how do i change it?
15:56<lsajfskljf>does it allow you to manually enter a mirror?
15:56<MeglaW>yes
15:56<lsajfskljf>http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
15:57<lsajfskljf>pick one
15:57<MeglaW>u dont understand
15:57<MeglaW>i can pick mirrors just fine
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15:57<MeglaW>when i get to select mirrors, it says unvalid mirror
15:57<MeglaW> its when i get to select mirrors, it says unvalid mirror, m
15:57<MeglaW>my guess is its old floppys so its looking for etch or something, how do i change it?
15:58<lsajfskljf>change what?
15:58<lsajfskljf>what do you see in the url list?
15:58<MeglaW>that its looking for etch or whatever
15:58<lsajfskljf>* the mirror list?
15:58<MeglaW>read my problem again.
15:59<lsajfskljf>http://www.goodbye-windows.com/debian/
15:59<lsajfskljf>question 5
15:59<MeglaW>no windows on the box.
16:00<MeglaW>cd broke
16:00<MeglaW>no space usb memorys
16:00<lsajfskljf>read the page
16:00<MeglaW>no free cd-r to burn
16:00<lsajfskljf>i'm googling this. so should you
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16:00<MeglaW>no working floppy drive left to redo the floppys
16:01<lsajfskljf>you didn't read the page did you?
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16:01<lsajfskljf>sigh::
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16:02<MeglaW>doing it now
16:03<MeglaW>ok iŽl try that
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16:03<novik>ello
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16:07<egamonal>why do I have a kernel 2.6.32-*trunk*-686 with squeeze?
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16:07<egamonal>isn't squeeze a testing (hence not sid) branch?
16:07<@weasel>because somebody uploaded the wrong package
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16:07<@weasel>and -2- is the current one now anyway
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16:08<chealer>egamonal: squeeze is testing, not sid, indeed.
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16:09<chealer>egamonal: it looks like that was an error, which is now fixed in unstable.
16:09<egamonal>but not in squeeze :(
16:09<egamonal>i just executed apt-get update
16:09<egamonal>and for apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.32 the onyl option is 2.6.32-trunk-
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16:10<MeglaW>nope
16:10<MeglaW>that did not work
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16:11<MeglaW>lsajfskljf: did not work.
16:12<kevix>judd: info linux-image
16:12<judd>No record of package 'linux-image' in lenny/i386.
16:12<ml|>MeglaW: trying to do a floppy install?
16:13<kevix>judd: info linux-image-2.6
16:13<judd>No record of package 'linux-image-2.6' in lenny/i386.
16:13<MeglaW>"the specified debian archive mirrror is either not avalable or does not have a valid Relese file on it, pls try a diffrent mirror"
16:13<MeglaW>ml|: yes
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16:13<ml|>only for etch, lenny is not supported
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16:14<pilou>hi, do you know the appropriate place for nmap questions?
16:14<kevix>judd: info linux-image-2.6-486
16:14<judd>linux-image-2.6-486 (admin, optional): Linux 2.6 image on x86. Version: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; Size: 2.4k; Installed: 32k
16:17<pilou>Anyone for my question?
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16:17<ikarus>pilou: If the question isn't too high end, just try it here
16:17<ikarus>pilou: enough sysadmins that use nmap regularly hanging around here
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16:18<ml|>dpkg: tell kevix about selftell
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16:18<chipper>капец, кудато попал
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16:18<ml|>!ru
16:18<dpkg>Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net.
16:19<pilou>OK. Is there a way to make the difference betw. a TCP CONNECT() scan and a TCP SYN scan when the port is CLOSE?
16:19<chipper>ок
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16:19<pilou>In the pcapfile, I have SYN, then RST/ACK in both cases?
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16:19<ikarus>pilou: oh, you are trying to differentiate connect and tcp/syn scans ?
16:20<pilou>yeah. Since response from server is the same for TCP SYN and TCP CONNECT scans when port is CLOSED
16:20<ikarus>yes
16:20<ikarus>because basically they are the same thing
16:21<ikarus>except with a SYN scan nmap is in full control
16:21<ikarus>while CONNECT uses the TCP library functions
16:21<pilou>How do you recognize in pcap?
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16:22<ikarus>you can't unless you explicitly mark one or the other
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16:22<pilou>That's what I was afraid of... :-(
16:22<MeglaW_>ml|: any ideas?
16:22<ikarus>or nmap happens to, by accident, set some TCP flags different from what the TCP/IP stack does
16:22<ikarus>then you might be able
16:22<ikarus>but I strongly doubt that
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16:23<egamonal>how can I disable compiz-fusion?
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16:23<egamonal>nvidia is driving me mad
16:23<ml|>MeglaW_: no, etch is not supported, you need to install lenny
16:23<pilou>thx Ikarus
16:23<egamonal>i only have text-mode access now
16:23<MeglaW_>ml|: how do i change it?
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16:24<ml|>change what?
16:24<MeglaW_>etch to lenny
16:24<ml|>you can't install lenny from floppy
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16:24<david>hola
16:25<ml|>!es
16:25<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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16:25<MeglaW_>ml|: so what your saying is i can thow this machine away since i cant install on it
16:25<MeglaW_>no way, it has to be doable
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16:26<ml|>i didn't say that, just you can't use floppy to install lenny
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16:26<MeglaW_>so is there a etch mirror somewere i can use insted
16:26<MeglaW_>and then update it
16:26<ml|>dunno
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16:27<ml|>you try usb install or externel cdrom if your bios supports that
16:27<MeglaW_>no
16:27<MeglaW_>cd broken
16:27<MeglaW_>no usb sticks
16:27<MeglaW_>no usb-ide/sata adapter
16:29<adb>no networking ?
16:29<ml|>pxe is another option?
16:29<MeglaW_>hehe adb i dont have the energy to configure a pxe mount point
16:29<MeglaW_>;)
16:29<MeglaW_>never done it
16:29<MeglaW_>it will take me an hour or more i guess
16:30<kevix>yeah,you need to basic debian installed, then you just use the net to finish.
16:30<ml|>MeglaW_: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer and /msg dpkg insatll guide and see if something there you can do
16:30<MeglaW_>kevix: i had that but mirrors hated me
16:31<MeglaW_>funny
16:32<ml|>but I think your only option would be pxe or get usb stick to install
16:33<MeglaW_>theres always the option of removing the disk and putting the install on that
16:33<ml|>yeah, if you can stick it on another machine to install that might work
16:34<adb>on same processor type
16:34<ml|>yep same arch
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16:36<f4ktu4l>hey
16:37<Zhila>hmm... a floppy with "boot loader" + linux + debootstrap + debootstrap's dependencies....(not sure if that would all fit...)
16:38<MeglaW_>worked b4 but kernel got to bloated i guess
16:38<MeglaW_>one floppy to boot on, one root, and your in
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16:39<MeglaW_>a net drivers disk too and you could install
16:39<adb>http://linux.simple.be/debian/etch/floppy
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16:40<ml|>etch was the last floppy supported install
16:40<MeglaW_>stupid not even supporting it anymore
16:40<MeglaW_>old boxes can still do loads
16:41<kop>MeglaW_: Pxeboot is simpler. Once you set it up it's ever so handy.
16:41<MeglaW_>yeah, most things are
16:41<ml|>there must be a reason, tho I dunno what that is; but since you can use usb sticks I can see why it's not supported any more
16:41<MeglaW_>only its more easy to install from media then to have 2 boxes running
16:42<MeglaW_>not all nic s even support pxe boot
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16:43<Zhila>MeglaW_: they have a floppy for that
16:43<ml|>actually very old machines, can't boot from usb
16:43<Zhila>ml|: someone could create a floppy for that
16:43<ml|>Zhila: it's not supported with lenny
16:44<Zhila>ml|: it's not supported in Lenny for a boot floppy to enumerate USB mass storage devices, find one that has boot loader code, then "chain load" to that USB device, which would contain the Lenny installer?
16:45<ml|>but I guess someone could; I meant official
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16:45<Zhila>actually, wouldn't a simple GRUB floppy do the job there?
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16:55<egamonal>only one user in my system has fusion-icon in the startup applications list
16:55<egamonal>how can I remove it?
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17:04<MeglaW_>ok, this is what i did i removed the disk
17:04<MeglaW_>put anotherone in there with winxp on it
17:04<MeglaW_>got it to boot
17:04<MeglaW_>downloaded that debian.exe form goobye-windows.com
17:04<MeglaW_>and it boots me into rescue mode?
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17:13<mercutio22>I installed debian on another pc and some commands like locate, less, etc are missing. How can I install all those common commands? one by one?
17:14<ikarus>mercutio22: sure, you just install the ones you need, although quite a few come along with tasks
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17:14<Zhila>mercutio22: less is in it's own package, not sure where locate is
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17:14<Zhila>mercutio22: try searching http://packages.debian.org/ for the commands you are trying to find, or you can also use apt-cache search
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17:14<ikarus>Zhila: it's own package aswell
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17:15<MeglaW_> downloaded that debian.exe form goobye-windows.com and it boots me into rescue mode?
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17:15<ikarus>MeglaW_: that's not a supported installer I'm afraid
17:15<Zhila>MeglaW_: I don't know... maybe?
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17:16<kenyon>!tell mercutio22 about apt-file
17:16<MeglaW_>omg
17:16<MeglaW_>why is it still up if its not supported
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17:16<Zhila>MeglaW_: It's not supprted by debian, doesn't mean it's not supported by goodbye-windows
17:17<kenyon>MeglaW_: why would you expect something not from debian.org to be supported?
17:17<lsajfskljf>lol. what happened?
17:17<MeglaW_>iv installed debian loads of times with thhat
17:17<lsajfskljf>was it my fault?
17:17<ikarus>MeglaW_: yes, but that's not our problem
17:17<kenyon>!confuse lsajfskljf
17:17<dpkg>No, those is your ferret today, lsajfskljf? Shirts of the Democracy of Tibet with extra cheese.
17:17<ikarus>MeglaW_: I'd recommend the netinst ISO
17:17<MeglaW_>lsajfskljf: nothing happend, and you were wrong about the reason. :)
17:18<lsajfskljf>kenyon: mind your bot commands, sir. i was the one who gave him the link to goodbye-windows
17:18<ikarus>MeglaW_: and then in the future possibly preparing an installation USB stick, it is a bit more flexible and can be carried around easier
17:18<Zhila>basically, what he's saying is that if you use goodbye-windows, and it screws your system, debian will not take the blame
17:18<ikarus>(I mean if you have to install dozens of machines)
17:18<MeglaW_>hehe
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17:18<MeglaW_>well as it is i cant get debian into my box at all
17:19<MeglaW_>cd broken no usb disk floppy not supprted
17:19<MeglaW_>that windows installer not supported
17:19<MeglaW_>my nic does not do pxe
17:19<MeglaW_>yeah letts make it worse, not better
17:19<Zhila>MeglaW_: remember, "not supported" does not mean "will not work" it just means "don't expect debian.org to help you out"
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17:20<Zhila>in other words, "you are on your own"
17:20*Zhila does all sorts of "unsupported" things
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17:20<MeglaW_>Zhila: "is not working and google is not helping and neither is ppl on irc" is what i mean. :)
17:20<kenyon>MeglaW_: your CD drive is broken?
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17:21<MeglaW_>yes
17:21<MeglaW_>lappy
17:21<MeglaW_>and i dont have any ide/sata to usb adapters
17:21<ikarus>MeglaW_: you can try another unsupported way, the NT bootloader (NTLDR) can load a certain Linux bootloader
17:21<MeglaW_>i have a nic and a floppy, thats it.
17:21<kenyon>boot from USB stick or external CD drive
17:22<MeglaW_>as i said no usb sticks
17:22<kenyon>or another hard drive
17:22<MeglaW_>and cd broken.
17:22<kenyon>you need better hardware
17:22<MeglaW_>kenyon: lappy
17:22<kenyon>USB hard drive
17:22<MeglaW_>and i dont have any ide/sata to usb adapters
17:22<Zhila>kenyon: everything you are suggesting, he has already said is not possible
17:22<MeglaW_>thx Zhila
17:22<Zhila>MeglaW_: can you get grub to run?
17:23<kenyon>gonna have to spend money, sounds to me
17:23<f4ktu4l>hey guys when you get a chance I have a quick question about ln in /etc/rc.d
17:23<ikarus>MeglaW_: anyway, you should contact the guys running that website for help
17:23<ikarus>Zhila: hrm, he could
17:23<ikarus>floppy drive
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17:23<ikarus>and grub itself fits on a floppy
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17:23<Zhila>MeglaW_: if you can get GRUB to work, everything that your PC can't natively boot, GRUB can boot for you
17:23<Zhila>that includes CD boot, USB boot, PXE boot, etc
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17:24<mjt>hm. So, `aptitude update' told me that one package is now obsoleted by something. How to find out what it is being replaced with?
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17:25<kenyon>mjt: maybe "aptitude why"; see its docs
17:25<mjt>(in particular it says w32codecs is a newly-obsolted pkg)
17:25<lsajfskljf>if i use dd to blank a drive will this also wipe the boot sector? the boot sector is just the first XXX bytes of the drive, right?
17:26<ikarus>lsajfskljf: correct
17:26<mjt>lsajfskljf: yes, and yes exactly
17:26<lsajfskljf>kk. ty
17:29<lsajfskljf>...this takes a REALLY LONG TIME...
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17:29<mjt>you can speed it up by using direct-IO
17:29<lsajfskljf>meaning?
17:30<mjt>dd will write to disk directly bypassing all buffer caches etc
17:30<lsajfskljf>how?
17:30<bja>lsajfskljf: if you want to erase a hd you can use shred
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17:30<mjt>dd ... of=/dev/sda oflag=direct
17:30<ikarus>you can also issue the SECURE ERASE command to the HDD
17:30<mjt>shred will take forever for this task
17:31<ikarus>though that means relying on the HDD to actually SECURE ERASE
17:31<ikarus>mjt: meh, give it a week
17:31<ikarus>mjt: we use it at work
17:31<lsajfskljf>it's not a security thing. i just want to get rid of all partitions and boot sector
17:31<mjt>by default shred reads /dev/random
17:31<lsajfskljf>whatever is faster
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17:31<ikarus>lsajfskljf: just erase the first 1Mbyte
17:31<ikarus>mjt: if the disc is still accessible
17:31<lsajfskljf>doesn't even have to be dd
17:31<mjt>lsajfskljf: for that you only need to erase first 512 bytes
17:31<ikarus>else I screw open the HDD and melt down the platters
17:32*mjt looks around at ~200 scsi hdds which has to be thrown away...
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17:32<lsajfskljf>a data destruction company i talked to once said if the customer asks they show them drilling holes into the hdd
17:32<ikarus>lsajfskljf: meh, that isn't too bad
17:32<ikarus>but I just like thermite
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17:32<Zhila>MeglaW_: only 4 things I can think of for you to get working, buy replacement hardware, get goodbye-windows to work somehow, get GRUB loaded so you can boot from PXE, or somehow put debootstrap on your "install floppies" and run it within the installer
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17:33<lsajfskljf>MeglaW: there is no kind of media drive on the lappy?
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17:34<MeglaW_>lsajfskljf: media drive? floppy!
17:34<Zhila>lsajfskljf: he only has a floppy reader, his CD reader is broken, and he has no other media
17:34<lsajfskljf>but you cant make a new floppy?
17:34<MeglaW_>yes thats right lsajfskljf
17:34<lsajfskljf>and you have a hdd, right?
17:35<MeglaW_>yes
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17:35<MeglaW_>now this right here is why ppl stay with windows. :)
17:36<mjt>hm. I've a ton of floppies still, but I don't remember when I used one of these the last time. Definitely more than 5 years ago...
17:36<lsajfskljf>still doesn't explain why ppl use macs
17:36<MeglaW_>ha ha ha lsajfskljf
17:36<MeglaW_>well
17:36<MeglaW_>im downloading http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso to work right now
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17:37<lsajfskljf>then what?
17:37<MeglaW_>gonna bring it there, move over cd from a working lappy
17:37<MeglaW_>install
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17:37<MeglaW_>put back
17:37<MeglaW_>and never look back.
17:37<Zhila>MeglaW_: yuo could have done that all along? .....
17:37<MeglaW_>to bad the thing about the floppy
17:37<MeglaW_>Zhila: naa, im not at work now
17:37<MeglaW_>its always worked b4 installing from floppy
17:37<Zhila>oh, you were trying to get it done now?
17:38<MeglaW_>i did not know it changed..
17:38<Zhila>as opposed to waiting to get it done later when you had more options?
17:38<MeglaW_>i did not know i needed them Zhila !
17:38<Zhila>yeah, I see
17:38<MeglaW_>its like asking a blind man what color green is
17:38<Zhila>I was just about to hack up a solution too (as ugly as it is)
17:39<MeglaW_>but thx anyway ppl, and especialy you Zhila. :)
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17:43<MeglaW_>i just hope we have a working cd a
17:43<MeglaW_>at work
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17:43<MeglaW_>or a usb - external whatever
17:44<Zhila>MeglaW_: this is what I was suggesting earlier (just replace "get debootstrap from ubuntu" with "get debootstrap from debian" assuming ubuntu's debootstrap is different than debian's debootstrap)
17:45<Zhila>ooops.... forgot to paste link, heheheh
17:45<Zhila>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
17:45<MeglaW_>nano zhila
17:46<MeglaW_>copypaste
17:46<MeglaW_>^x y
17:46<MeglaW_>;)
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17:47<Zhila>suggest using a sarge floppy (I assume etch floppy would work just as well) get to the point where you have net access, and where you've partitioned the hard drive, then exit out of the installer into a shell, and run debootstrap (an official installation method, well, the debootstrap part anyway, not the half floppy install to shell part)
17:48<MeglaW_>hdhd
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17:49<MeglaW_>i do see an error right away
17:49<mjt>these things nowadays are much easier to do from an usb stick
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17:49<MeglaW_>after net drivers floppy u can partition drives
17:49<MeglaW_>u need a source to get that. :(
17:49<MeglaW_>cant even
17:49<MeglaW_>mjt: scoll up about 2h, then comment pls. :)
17:49<Zhila>ah....
17:50<mjt>i've seen you said "no other media"
17:50<mjt>about 10 mins ago
17:50<MeglaW_>mind is mush now. going to bed
17:50<MeglaW_>a problem for tomorow
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17:51<Zhila>I wonder how difficult it would be to copy a partitioner on a floppy along with debootstrap....
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17:51<MeglaW_>hehe
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17:52<MeglaW_>sice i dont have a working floppy drive exept in the box im trying to install, pretty hard. :)
17:53<OddTod>Hey guys i was wondering if there was an application that would search a windows driver mounted in debian that would search the mount for viruses. To quarintine a harddrive
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17:54<mjt>something like clamav?
17:54<Zhila>MeglaW_: didn't you say you were able to boot WinXP on the laptop by using a different hard drive? last I checked, XP can write files to floppies (unless you opted to format the floppy in ext2, (or, you know, the floppy images you downloaded happened to be formatted ext2))
17:54<MeglaW_>ohh shit did not think of that
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17:55<MeglaW_>smart Zhila. :)
17:55<mjt>there's also rawrite
17:55<MeglaW_>iŽll try, tomorrow, pasted everything you said into its own little file
17:55<MeglaW_>gn ppl
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17:56<Zhila>mjt: was refering to adding files to an existing floppy disk, not writing a new disk image to a floppy
17:56<ml|>MeglaW_: I would use the lenny installer, the testing installer can have issues
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17:58<lsajfskljf>i'm using syslinux as a bootloader
17:58<lsajfskljf>does the first partition of the drive have to be the bootable one?
17:58<lsajfskljf>or can it be any?
17:59<mjt>any
17:59<mjt>set the "active" flag
17:59<Zhila>ml|: how is he going to get these? if there are no floppy images for neither lenny nor squeeze?
17:59<lsajfskljf>i set the boot flag
17:59<mjt>and for syslinux, it boots from a dos partition
17:59<lsajfskljf>using gparted. how do i set the active flag. and yes it is a dos partition
18:00<ml|>Zhila: < MeglaW_> im downloading http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso to work right now
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18:00<Zhila>oh...
18:00<lsajfskljf>mjt?
18:00<mjt>lsajfskljf: no idea how to do it in gparted
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18:01<Zhila>yeah... I wondered what he was going to do with that, I guess he's hoping to find a working CD drive at work to use
18:01<lsajfskljf>mjt: doesn't have to be
18:01<lsajfskljf>whatever works
18:01<ml|>I guees, just suggesting to use lenny installer instead
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18:02<OddTod>mjt: were you talking to me about clamav?
18:02<Zhila>sid is the only debian for me, heheheheh
18:02<mjt>OddTod: yeah
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18:02<mjt>lsajfskljf: i just fired `man parted' and see in there: "set partition flag state"
18:02<mjt>lsajfskljf: like, set 1 boot on
18:03<ml|>another thing that is not supported 'sid' ;)
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18:04<OddTod>mjt: This looks like the tool for me. I'll have to look at it a little more thank you for your time.
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18:19<mercutio22>Zhila:
18:20<andrew1618>how would I change my keymap? Right now my 'at' key doesnt work and instead gives me an " whilst the " key gives me my @. How can I fix this?
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18:21<themill>andrew1618: sounds like you've got a UK layout rather than a US layout selected (or similar)
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18:21<themill>!keymap
18:21<dpkg>To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments.
18:22<themill>andrew1618: (.au keyboards are normally a standard US layout)
18:23<andrew1618>themill: yeah its definitely a US keyboard. How do I change this?
18:23<themill>what dpkg just said
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18:26<vmarcetic>hi, can anyone help me to install zboard drivers or to tell me how to bind W key (w isnt working so i need to use virtual keyboard for it)
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18:26<andrew1618>themill: thankyou
18:27<themill>np
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18:33<vmarcetic>hi, can anyone help me to install zboard drivers or to tell me how to bind W key (w isnt working so i need to use virtual keyboard for it)
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18:48<paggas>Hej people, I'm running a bare window manager as my X session, so I don't have the full GNOME environment installed. My problem is, I also want to run workrave, but the sound is not working with it! Maybe there is some extra dependency which I don't have installed? Any ideas? I'm not getting any error messages.
18:49<bja>paggas: Have you runned that program from console to look if it has any usefull output?
18:49<paggas>bja: Yeah, but nothing useful...
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18:51<bja>paggas: gnome system tray is very particular on the way it behaves, maybe it is an isue with your desktop manager
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18:51<paggas>bja: I'm running openbox with lxpanel started from autostart.sh.
18:52<bja>paggas: that beats me, i've never used any of those
18:52<ml|>sound works with everything else?
18:52<paggas>Hmmmm, kinda strange, thanks anyway :)
18:52<paggas>ml|: Yeah, everything regarding sound is normal apart from workrave.
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18:53<ml|>then I would think it's some workrave config issue
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18:54<paggas>ml|: Well, it has an option to enable sound in its configuration window, but nothing happens.
18:56<ml|>did you try logout then back in after that change?; might be needed, worth a try if not
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18:57<nex>hey guys
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18:57<nex>any backtrack user in here?
18:57<ml|>!backtrack
18:57<dpkg>BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
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18:58<paggas>ml|: I tried, no change :|
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19:00<ml|>paggas: read the docs for workrave and maybe there might be some option in the config file
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20:17<james_>Here's a weird question. Is it possible to get on an IRC through Emacs?
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20:18<ssb>james_, M-x erc
20:19<break19>the only thing you can't do with emacs is run windows programs.. yet..
20:19<james_>ssb: Holy crap!
20:19<koollman>break19: that, and edit text ;)
20:19<james_>It's everything a good operating system should be. One day it might even be a decent editor.
20:20<bja>!editor war
20:20<dpkg>methinks editor war is when people start talking all sorts of emotional bullshit while trying to prove superiority of the editor of their choice
20:20<koollman>:)
20:21<james_>dpkg: That's about right.
20:21<dpkg>james_: I give up, what is it?
20:21<bja>!bot
20:21<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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20:25<james_>This calls for a Turing test.
20:25<james_>lol
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20:31<jvm>hi. using debian etch, courier, postfix; i add a few e-mail addresses (after it worked for two years) and suddenly i get error messages "Feb 24 01:20:01 v1638 couriertcpd: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam--" in /var/log/mail.log and e-mails are not received. any hint on what's wrong?
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20:38<mercutio22>A guy a #alsa said that the problem with my sound volume is pretty frequent in debian. Can someone point where to find the file he mentions?
20:38<mercutio22>ops
20:39<mercutio22> http://debian.pastebin.com/e1WMquMq
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20:52<mercutio22>I also found this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/45539-alsamixer-wont-save-settings.html
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20:55<adb>cat /etc/init.d/alsa-utils |grep alsactl
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21:24<mercutio22>adb: http://debian.pastebin.com/fSbWu1n8
21:25<adb>i know that ..
21:25<adb>i have the same
21:26<schlurchz>Hi all. I am currently trying to migrate a lenny box to lvm. The box has a single hdd. I did this: a) installed the lvm package (that rebuilt the initrd). Plugged the hdd out, put it into another machine and moved the data into lvm volumes, leaving /boot for grub (legacy). I updated the menu.lst and other stuff and /etc, and put the drive back. Now the machine doesn't boot. Need I tune the initrd somehow?
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21:26<mercutio22>adb: you have the same issue?
21:27<adb>no, the same output of that command ..
21:27<schlurchz>The initrd doesn't find the root filesystem. Isn't the lvm2 package supposed to discover lvm volumes automagically?
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21:54<mercutio22>crap... I really would like to fix this annoyance
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21:55<adb>mercutio22, install lenny ..
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21:57<mercutio22>adb: I don't think the version is the problem. You see, I have another squeeze box where it works. I must have messed up this one.
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22:04<adb>try a new squeeze install
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22:09<clinton>is there a way to automatically update source packages?
22:09<clinton>as in, rebuild and install automatically?
22:09<clinton>I'm running stable but want to use some packages from testing/unstable.
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22:11<adb>not as i known , but try using backports and/or ssb
22:12<adb> /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg ssb
22:13<schlurchz>Hooray, now it works
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22:13<adb>!win schlurchz
22:13<dpkg>Congratulations, schlurchz! You have won a one way ticket to Cleveland!
22:13<schlurchz>xD
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22:14<schlurchz>Not sure though what caused it :) I had MODULES=dep in initramfs.conf, and changed it into "most"
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22:14<schlurchz>maybe that, but not sure
22:14<schlurchz>well
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22:16<clinton>adb: the packages I need are "witty" "boost-1.4.*" and "gcc-4.4"
22:16<clinton>I couldn't find any backports for them
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22:20<adb>clinton, do a 'debootstarp sid sid' and install gcc-4.4 in chroot
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22:30<dvs>p
22:32<ut>I'm trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze, running into insserv complaining about a loop between mountnfs and nfs-common during x11-common config. can anyone tell me what that means?
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22:53<damian>im in debian testing and cannot use my front audio panel, should i configure something ¿?
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