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---Logopened Sat Feb 27 00:00:35 2010
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00:03<user1>is there any tutorals on decnet
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00:04<adb>http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3129
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00:05<Ply>Hey guys, i'm having a weird (or not) issue. Some of the shortcuts on my panel menu won't work... But the applications themselves do work
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00:06<Ply>and using the run (alt+f2) method also doesn't work
00:06<ravi>hi, I am trying finding about single board computers/small boxes with 128MB/256MB RAM, 1GB Flash >200Mhz that is cheaper and able to run debian for a friend for a self-funded non-commercial purpose(for kiosks in rural regions)
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00:07<ravi>do you people know any?
00:08<Ply>I do not. sorry
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00:10<sney>there's probably some VIA thing that could do it
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00:11<ravi>yeah, I am searching for Arm, Via, AMD Geode etc., I need to find something that is well supported by debian
00:12<sney>the only place you're really going to have issues is the NIC, everything else should be fine
00:12<sney>if you have worries about specific hardware, look at http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI
00:13<ravi>cool, it is useful for shopping other hardware too
00:15<ravi>http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Teeny-weeny-Linux-SBCs/
00:15<ravi>got some
00:17<sney>and if it's 'linux-ready' it will run debian
00:17<adb>ravi, i can get some (> 10 pc) 450 MHz >200 MB ram , ~ 10 GB hard drive, debian installed , for nothing , only sheeping from here to you
00:17<sney>!sheep
00:17<dpkg>sheep go baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
00:18<adb>sney ?
00:18<sney>sheeping?
00:19<adb> sleeping , then ?
00:19<sney>you probably mean shipping
00:19<sney>sleeping = dormiendo
00:19<adb>write ship ping
00:20<ravi>need something that takes very less space and very very less power
00:20<adb>ravi, go ask on blug.org
00:20<sney>looks like he found some already though
00:21<adb>beijing
00:21<sney>that second one on the list, the Kontron pITX looks pretty promising
00:21<ravi>ok
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00:28<ravi>thanks for your help
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00:28<adb>' 4 double precision words' means 128 bits
00:28<adb>?
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00:41<beersss>I wonder who easly it will be to install debian stable and debian testing on the same mashine
00:41<khades>it will i think
00:41<khades>if separatin /
00:41<sney>2 different partitions? pretty easy
00:41<beersss>can one then use the same /home or should that be sepereted as well?
00:41<beersss>and swap?
00:42<sney>they could use the same /home and swap
00:42<khades>if settings in /home wont break your software
00:42<sney>yeah, iceweasel et al could have a hissy fit possibly
00:42<khades>no, settings of add will be a problem
00:43<khades>history wont
00:43<sney>probably better to have a shared data partition between the two that you could mount under /home/data
00:43<beersss>then I tink I will have home on / partion but have another partion to data
00:43<khades>i'd install some of system in virtualbox
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00:45<beersss>khades: I am running testing on a virtual box as we speak but I would like to see how well in runs on real hardware and with 3 screens (since kde 4 has had some problem with x on my screens)
00:45<beersss>that is hard to test inside a virtoal box
00:45<khades>i'd use some livecd for that
00:45<khades>installed on flashdrive
00:46<sney>beersss's idea is fine khades, if he wants to dual boot 2 debian releases let him
00:47<khades>it's good to have variants
00:47<beersss>khades: I dont know any debian lice cds and I would not go bear kubuntu
00:47<sney>there is debian-live but it is separate from lenny/squeeze
00:48<sney>your idea is easy to implement and will give you the most clear data
00:48<khades>i thought there's kinda software for building livecds
00:48<sney>there is but it is still not the same as having an installed system
00:49<khades>he need
00:49<sney>http://live.debian.net/ for more information about debian-live
00:49<khades>s to test software workin
00:49<khades>not the whole system
00:49<Ply>Ok, I install a game (or software) and it puts an executable in /usr/games. which work fine.. When I try to open them via panel or Gnome-do.. they don't work
00:49<Ply>Any ideas?
00:49<sney>delete the panel shortcut and make a new one, any change?
00:50<Ply>I can change it manualy for the panel. but not for Gnome-Do
00:50<Ply>it seems to be doing something weird
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00:50<sney>also make sure /usr/games is in your $PATH
00:50<Ply>also, it doesn't do it for all aps
00:50<beersss>exit
00:50<Ply>what do you mean by that sney?
00:51<sney>gnome shortcuts usually just invoke the binary name directly rather than the whole path
00:51<khades>any awesome 3.4 users?
00:51<Ply>also note, i deleted gnome panel folders.. to reset the panels, since they got bugged at one point
00:51<Ply>dunno if this might have messed something up
00:52<Ply>sney, where would i see the list of paths>?
00:52<sney>in a terminal, type echo $PATH
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00:52<Ply>i get: /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/X11
00:53<sney>what was installed in /usr/games?
00:53<Ply>it's a folder with executables.. dunno if the games are actually installed there
00:53<sney>oh, so you just copied the files there, you didn't use apt?
00:54<Ply>nono, all this was done by apt-get \
00:54<sney>hmm
00:54<sney>what games?
00:54<Ply>all.. even pre-installed ones
00:54<Ply>they are only the exectuables though
00:54<sney>look ok when I say 'what games' I am asking for names here
00:54<sney>if you keep being vague nobody will help you
00:55<Ply>what games are in the folder? or what games am i having problems with?
00:55<sney>either or
00:55<sney>what games did you install, try to run, and couldn't?
00:55<Ply>The ones with problems as of now are Chromium and Sauerbraten.. ALL games have executables in /usr/games (gnomine, gnibbles, etc,etc)
00:55<Ply>Also, Mupen64plus
00:55<sney>see if Debian installs something to /usr/games and doesn't add /usr/games to your $PATH, that's what we call a bug
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00:57<sney>Ply: if you type chromium in a terminal and hit enter, does it run?
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00:57<Ply>no
00:58<adb>Ply, run debian ?
00:58<Ply>sney, but that doesn't work for most games
00:58<sney>ply, are you using ubuntu?
00:58<Ply>no
00:58<adb>/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
00:58<Ply>Debian Squeeze
00:59<adb> echo $PATH ^^
00:59<sney>mine too, adb
00:59<adb>Ply, uname -r
00:59<Ply>2.6.32-trunk-amd64
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01:00<Ply>I might have erased or changes something that messed it up. Probably when trying to reset panels
01:00<Ply>cuz i wasn't having this issue before
01:00<Ply>at least not with mupen64plus
01:00<sney>gnome panels shouldn't mess with environment settings, but you could try creating a new user and logging in as them to see if a fresh gnome profile fixes it
01:03<Ply>hm, lemme see then
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01:03<sney>I'm going to bed, good luck
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01:05<Ply>nope
01:06<gsimmons>Ply, sney: In Squeeze, the binary is named chromium-bsu, not chromium.
01:06<Ply>still nothing. Is there a way to add that path back.. or is it more complex than that?
01:07<adb>reboot
01:08<adb>and do > echo $PATH , here
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01:09<adb>without touching anything else ..
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01:15<Ply>. /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/X11
01:15<adb>wrong ..
01:16<adb>Ply , logged as user ?
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01:16<Ply>yes
01:18<adb>PATH=$PATH:/usr/games
01:18<adb>export PATH
01:18<adb>do that ^^
01:19<adb>and echo $PATH
01:19<Ply>/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
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01:19<adb>that's ok now ..
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01:20<Ply>is it ok to have so many paths?
01:20<Ply>beyond it being weird or not
01:21<adb>user "normal" has only '/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games'
01:21<peterS>it's a little weird to have the 'sbin' dirs in your path, unless you are root. if you are root, it's normal.
01:21<Ply>hm
01:21<adb>Ply, id , says ?
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01:22<adb>as user
01:22<Ply>uid=1000(my user name)
01:22<Ply>and then a bunch of crap
01:22<Ply>I did some things with sudo.. to add myself to the sudo list
01:22<Ply>could that have triggered something?
01:22<adb> groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),107(vboxusers),1000(ee)
01:24<Ply>uid=1000(marx) gid=1000(marx) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),105(scanner),111(netdev),112(bluetooth),117(powerdev),1000(marx)
01:24<adb>Ply, su
01:25<adb>ok
01:25<adb>?
01:25<adb>now , as root
01:25<adb>adduser xxx
01:25<Ply>uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
01:25<Ply>oh
01:25<Ply>already exists
01:25<adb>adduser yyy
01:25<Ply>or should i add a new one
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01:25<adb>then ..
01:26<adb>yes add a new one
01:26<Ply>ok
01:26<adb>tell us when the new user is added
01:26<Ply>it is
01:27<adb>ok
01:27<adb> login "newuser'
01:27<Ply>ok
01:27<Ply>id
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01:27<adb>echo $PATH
01:28<Ply>uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
01:28<Ply>wrong one
01:28<Ply>/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
01:28<adb>/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
01:29<Ply>i have nothing on /usr/local/games..
01:29<Ply>and i don't have a /usr/local/bin folder
01:29<Ply>fyi
01:29<adb>you have that more > :/usr/local/games
01:30<Ply>chromium-bsu seemed to work under xxx
01:30<Ply>i mean.. it failed.. but it tried to run it
01:31<adb>so you installed 3 party games ..
01:31<adb>from .tgz or so
01:31<Ply>yes i did. is that wrong?
01:31<adb>no
01:31<adb>but ...
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01:33<adb>some may put executable in /usr/local/ , and that will be executed 'before' /bin /sbin and so on ... so not good things
01:34<Ply>but i kinda want those things installed.. otherwise it would be a limiting situation :P
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01:34<Ply>repositories aren't very fast when it comes to these kinds of things. While others are nonexistant in repositories
01:36<adb>it seems that your environment was changed by some game variable , up to you to fix it ..
01:37<Ply>no workaround? like create new user, etc?
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01:43<adb>well , use 'env' for new/old user and compare PATH= .. , and fix that 'PATH=/ ' in .profile
01:44<adb>read 'cat .profile' under # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
01:46<adb>maybe use > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm
01:47*adb out for now
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01:49<Ply>on my env for my user.. nothing seems to be out of place
01:50<adb> PATH= .. are ok ? i meant 'PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games'
01:51<Ply>oh nm.. games is not there
01:51<Ply>should /usr/bin/X11 be there?
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01:51<adb>maybe to start a game in X
01:52<Ply>PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/X11
01:52<adb>well for me the order in not right
01:53<adb>must be as in my conf
01:53<Ply>order in xxx is not that one
01:53<Ply>PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
01:55<Ply>wouldn't creating a new user.. and deleting my current one be a step in the right direction though?
01:55<adb>iit seems you changed too the /etc/adduser.conf
01:55<Ply>doesn't sound familiar.. lemmese
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01:55<Ply>I changed the sudoers for shure
01:55<Ply>sure
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01:56<Ply>I don't think i manually changed the adduser.conf.. ever
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01:57<adb>Ply, ok , but the new user use the same PATH structure as the 'olduser' , why ?
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01:59<Ply>i have no idea.. i don't even see the problem.. shouldn't it be the same?
02:01<adb>Ply, i'll do a fast 'debootstarp squeeze squeeze' , and then compare squeeze and squeeze in chroot
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02:09<Ply>brb
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02:17<vhann>Hi, I'm using Debian Lenny and KDE on my 40" TV. The text on the KDM login screen is very small (but once in KDE it is fine). Is there a way to grow the text?
02:17<massmc>when I vnc into my new box the keyboard is all messed up, can anyone help?
02:18<vhann>massmc: What do you mean by "all messed up"?
02:18<massmc>keys are all messed up.. like A is a D etc..
02:18<massmc>all my other machines dont have this problem
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02:19<vhann>What are 'Q', 'W', 'E', 'R', 'T', 'Y' ?
02:20<Ply>first letters of the keyboard from the top left
02:20<vhann>...
02:20<massmc>lemme see
02:20<Ply>on the querty keyboard nways
02:20<vhann>Ply: That was a question for massmc ;)
02:20<Ply>oh
02:20<Ply>ahah
02:20<Ply>my bad
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02:20<Ply>nways, adb I recreated my user.. now i get: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
02:20<massmc>c.vgn
02:20<massmc>thats qwerty
02:21<massmc>"y" doesnt even work
02:21<Ply>dvorak.. i wonder if that got anywhere
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02:21<Ply>at some point it was gaining some "popularity"
02:22<massmc>this is the first machine i thought i'd give a gnome gui too.. already issues lol
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02:22<Ply>what did you use to use?
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02:22<massmc>xfce, still use it tho
02:22<Ply>xfce is pretty nice
02:22<massmc>ya
02:23<Ply>some things seem meh though
02:23<massmc>like what
02:23<Ply>I used it only for a bit, since i had to uninstall debian from my laptop when i had it
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02:23<Ply>but for one.. the icon grid system.. i dunno if you can change it
02:24<Ply>Also, some graphical impurities.. or artifacts if you will
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02:25<massmc>yea fair enough
02:25<massmc>runs good on 128 meg of ram tho
02:26<Ply>I kinda dislike gnome on the other hand. But i still use it. Since for now.. it enables some good functionalities
02:26<Ply>had more than one problem with it though
02:26<Ply>with gdm and with the panel.. and they were not human errors unlike most of the issues i have
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02:27<massmc>mate I used to love gnome but just got a stiffy for xfce and fluxbox.. thought id give it another chance.. feels like i'm going backwards with fluxbox etc.
02:27<Ply>fluxbox seems like my dream... It's one pedestal too high though
02:28<Ply>someday i'll get to use it though.. when i learn how to make things work
02:28<Ply>My first linux was Arch+fluxbox
02:28<massmc>only thing i really dislike about fluxbox is it's menu
02:28<Ply>got it working for the most part too... But it was such a pain in the ass for me ahah.
02:28<casEEsac>test
02:29<massmc>I have a friend who swears by arch
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02:30<casEEsac>Ply: I noticed that when I used Fluxbox I did not see all the programs I had install using gnome
02:30<Ply>I only used fluxbox with new arch install, so i wouldn't know
02:30<Ply>massmc, pacman is amazing.. nuff said
02:30<massmc>you need to edit the menu file
02:30<casEEsac>Oh, that was for massmc
02:31<casEEsac>massmc how do I edit the file menu?
02:31<Ply>2 taskbar setup of gnome is so lame.. I found a good way to solve that though.. and keep everything
02:31<goodger>Ply: out of intrigue, what does pacman do better than dpkg/apt?
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02:33<casEEsac>test
02:34<Ply>i'm not one to tell you the bigger differences, since i'm pretty new to these stuff. Things I found great about it, were so many things that were there that i can't easily get on apt-get, including drivers, etc
02:34<Ply>technically, it's supposed to be faster
02:34<Ply>it's kinda abstract to explain, specially with lack of info.. but pacman was really nice to use.
02:35<goodger>APT does handle drivers in packages, in fact..?
02:36<Ply>it does
02:36<Ply>never said it didnt
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02:37<Ply>apt works great.. I have nothing against it
02:38<goodger>then kindly explain your comment that "so many things that were there that i can't easily get on apt-get, including drivers"
02:39<Ply>oh god.. no need to be offended by it. I had issues with apt-get when installing certain drivers.. that i didn't with pacman. Although it probably has to do with repos or something..but it's kinda tied together
02:39<Ply>I found it to be better, in my ignorance. Take it or leave it. I don't mind at all. Just don't take it as a personal attak
02:40<goodger>I'm not offended, just anxious to correct possible misconceptions
02:40<goodger>poor experiences installing drivers such as nvidia's in Debian is likely due to the repository, rather than APT itself
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02:41<Ply>i said that..
02:41<Ply>I said: it probably has to do with repos or something..but it's kinda tied together
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02:42<goodger>quite
02:42<goodger>so the claimed benefit was, in fact, unrelated to pacman itself
02:42<goodger>just wanted to clear that up
02:42<Ply>that one in particular, sure
02:43<Ply>look, if you want to know.. try it yourself.. I'm telling you my experience in my ignorance..
02:43<Ply>but at least i tried it.
02:44<Ply>and yeah, it was more a benefit of arch than pacman.
02:45<goodger>hmm... I vaguely recalled arch breaking the filesystem hierarchy, but the docs suggest it wasn't arch
02:45<goodger>I wonder which distro it was
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02:46<Ply>I don't know what the deal is with other distros.. since i've only tried debian and arch.. and some ubuntu
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02:46<goodger>by "breaking" I mean replacing with some awful "Program Files" schema
02:46<goodger>a la OS X
02:46<Ply>but the repos on debian... are rather limited
02:46*khades sighs
02:46<Ply>thank god someone told me to use squeeze
02:46<khades>cant make shifty work
02:47<goodger>Ply: the repos on Debian are the largest of any distribution, to my knowledge
02:47<goodger>22k-odd packages and growing almost daily
02:47<goodger>khades: what error are you receiving?
02:47<khades>no error
02:47<khades>there's no seeable errors
02:47<khades>it just simple not workin
02:47<khades>f**king awesome3
02:48<Ply>I'd rather get a different answer... But maybe i just need to learn to compile
02:48<goodger>in what way is it not working?
02:48<Ply>although that somewhat defeats the purpose
02:48<khades>goodger: not showing awesome at all after any tries to modify rc.lua to add shifty
02:48<goodger>Ply: compilation is fairly trivial for most things: [extract tarball], $ ./configure && make, # make install
02:49<Ply>gooder, until you miss something, and can't get a reference compilation. (for a noob anyways)
02:49<goodger>Ply: well, obviously horrifying behemoths like firefox are more convoluted
02:50<Ply>It's the problem of the user... but it's really unfriendly
02:50<goodger>but I have found the documentation for most things informative
02:50<Ply>well as an example, i tried to compile mplayer with vdpau on lenny
02:50<goodger>khades: well, I'm afraid without some error message I can't very well help you
02:51<Ply>i got everything done.. got vdpau showing on my smplayer...
02:51<Ply>but it still used my entire cpu... And had no way of finding where the problem was
02:51<Ply>no repository with a compilation
02:51<Ply>nothing.
02:52<goodger>was it absent from d-m?
02:52<Ply>yeah
02:52<Ply>not on squeeze
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02:52<goodger>ah
02:52<Ply>which is what i'm using now.. and have smplayer-vdpau working perfectly
02:52<goodger>a "just one of those things" situation, then...
02:53<Ply>whatever that means
02:53<casEEsac>Have you guys ever compiled a kernel?
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02:54<kekolo__>hi, java fail in testing and unstable, any suggestion, because it works well in sidux........................
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02:55<Ply>btw Hulu desktop is a godsend.. if anyone is annoyed at hulu website not working..
02:55<casEEsac>I was compiling a kernel and I came to a point where there were a whole bunch of options to choose from, like what to add or take away from the kernel. How do I know what to chose?
02:55<Ply>couldn't find a fix for it.. only issue reports..
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03:00<goodger>casEEsac: generally, if you know your system doesn't need a particular option (floppy disk drive support, for instance, or a sound driver on a machine without a sound card) you can remove it; otherwise, leave it alone
03:00<casEEsac>thanks goodger
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03:02<casEEsac>Are most of the people in this room doing private chats? Because I only see two people talking...
03:02<goodger>the other 549 are idling
03:02<goodger>who knows, some of them might be PMing as well
03:02<vedran_BIH>nah, just got up, waiting for bid decision :)
03:02<casEEsac>oh...
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03:04<yow>casEEsac: im a newbie, hence, im watching & listening, when im not away from my computer
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03:16<eix_>i'm not at the kb most of the time
03:17<eix_>wuhu, the cat jumped on the table
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03:20<Ply>can you create a launcher to run a script inside a directory
03:20<Ply>and if so, what would be the syntax
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03:24<goodger>Ply: if executable, just put the script's path as the target
03:24<Ply>no, it's a ./
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03:24<Ply>./mupen64plus m64p_test_rom.v64
03:25<goodger>that's an executable
03:25<goodger>replace . with the absolute path of the directory it's in
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03:27<Ply>.../mupen64plus\ m64p_test_rom.v64
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03:30<Ply>oh..
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03:31<Ply>it was a command to open a file with that executable
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03:33<Ply>not working
03:33<goodger>Ply: you need to specify the absolute path
03:34<goodger>for instance:
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03:35<goodger>Target: ["/home/ply/scripts/mupen64plus /home/ply/roms/m64_test_rom.v64"]
03:35<goodger>the [ and ] are the beginning and end of the text box in the launcher dialog
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03:37<Ply>gooder, what i'd wnt it to do is have a launcher to the executable
03:37<Ply>and be able to drop files into it
03:38<Ply>dunno if it's possible with this app though
03:38<Ply>since dropping files into the application itself doesn't seem to be working
03:38<goodger>there may be some special syntax like %s you can use, but I don't know
03:39<Ply>hm, well thnx anyways. I guess i'll wait for gui
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04:18<Guest88>identify dfa
04:18<Guest88>IDENTIFY dfa
04:18<Guest88>IDENTIFY
04:18<goodger>Guest88: /nick dfa, /nickserv identify dfa [your password]
04:18<Ganneff>no
04:18<weasel>if that's your password, then you should be ashamed of yourself
04:19<goodger> /nickserv identify [your password] rather
04:19<Ganneff>/msg nickserv identify password dfa
04:19<Guest88>lol its not it use to b my nickname
04:19<olasd>that's fortunate :)
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04:19<Guest88>but for some reason they are asking my to IDENTIFY or something like that
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04:20<goodger>Guest88: have you registered the nick "dfa" on this server?
04:20<Ganneff>the reason being that the nick is registered and protected
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04:20<Guest88>new to this , so no
04:20<goodger>Guest88: then it belongs to someone else, and you need to use another one. select it, then type /nick thenickyouselected
04:20<Ganneff>so use a different nick then, dfa is not for you then
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04:21<Guest88>ok lets try that
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04:22<Duyan>seem like working thanks a lots guys
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05:21<rik_>Is there a way to configure an interface (that uses dhcp) in /etc/network/interfaces to wait for the interface to become up (or timeout) before running the other startup scripts? Now my interfaces come up after some services which fail to start because the interface isn't up yet
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06:07<massmc>hello can someone please help with a VNC issue.. I am logging into another machine with VNC and all the keys on keyboard seem mixed up
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06:08<massmc>my other machines seem to be fine running xfce
06:08<massmc>just this one I am logging into now is running gnome
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06:55<s4br3>Does anyone understand why gscanbus is no longer supported in Debian?
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07:02<gsimmons>s4br3: http://bugs.debian.org/429559
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07:03<s4br3>gsimmons: ok. What does "Upstream is MIA" mean?
07:04<s4br3>Merely InActive?
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07:05<gsimmons>s4br3: "Missing in Action". Its last stable release was 2001, apparently.
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07:05<s4br3>gsimmons: ok, thanks! :)
07:06<s4br3>However, it does seem to have some development for other distros, which are up to v. 7 now.
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07:18<usuario>olA
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07:18<usuario>OLA
07:18<usuario>KIEN AY
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07:18<themill>!es-social usuario
07:18<dpkg>usuario: Este no es un canal social, este es un canal de soporte tecnico en Ingles, si necesitas soporte para Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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07:19<usuario>ÇIEN ERES¿?
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07:19<usuario>EOOOOOOOOO¡
07:20<goodger>...
07:20<usuario>K¿?
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07:20<goodger>ta
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07:24<s4br3>Hmmm. I am trying to get my nnew shiny Canopus ADVC 55 to work, but am getting stuck. Does anyone know offhand whether it work in Debian?
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07:25<s4br3>I run 64-bit Debian Sid
07:25<goodger>s4br3: the best available answer for that is the teeth-sucking noise that plumbers make as they discover a very expensive fault in one's boiler
07:26<s4br3>IOW, No?
07:27<s4br3>As in, no you don't know. ;)
07:27<goodger>in other words, I don't know and am not very hopeful
07:27<s4br3>ok :D
07:28<goodger>there may not be an available driver for it at all, and if there is a driver, there may not be useful capture software that works with it
07:28<s4br3>Would it be hopeful to even try to use the Win drivers you think?
07:28<s4br3>via wine perhaps?
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07:29<goodger>windows kernel drivers won't work at all in wine
07:29<s4br3>:(
07:29<goodger>if you find that linux creates a device for it, from which you can get some sort of data stream, running the windows capture software via wine has a chance of success
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07:30<s4br3>Found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIHNKLoZ9Ac
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08:11<chaos>is there a console tool to monitor network speed?
08:15<aheron>i have installed kde4 (sid) and use nvidia propertiary driver expiriencing tearing effect (only with kde hapens)!! any idea what is going on??
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08:18<bency>good night everyone
08:18<yow>bency: good night
08:18<chaos>night? where?
08:19<bency>here in taiwan
08:19<chaos>nite in taiwan!
08:19<yow>bency: r u from taiwan?
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08:19<yow>bency: me too
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08:19<bency>hi
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08:19<yow>bency: im malaysian, working in taiwan now :)
08:19<bency>im just a student here
08:19<yow>bency: nice to meet u
08:19<bency>nice to meet u too
08:20<yow>r u not taiwanese?
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08:20<bency>im taiwanese
08:20<yow>ic
08:20<yow>which part of taiwan r u from?
08:20*chaos feels a !ot coming
08:20<bency>from TaoYuan the north part of Taiwan
08:21<yow>ic
08:21<yow>do u study at TaoYuan too?
08:21<yow>what course?
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08:21<bency>im study in YuanZe University
08:22<yow>YuanZe? hmm.. im not sure if i know
08:23<bency>u can search YZU
08:23<bency>www.yzu.edu.tw
08:23<yow>got it
08:23<yow>r u reading Comp Sci?
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08:23<bency>no
08:23<yow>EE?
08:23<bency>but i want to learn
08:23<bency>yeah EE
08:23<yow>ic
08:24<yow>me too
08:24<yow>r u using Debian? Lenny? etch?
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08:24<bency>Lenny
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08:24<yow>ic, im still using etch, need to find time to upgrade it to lenny
08:24<bency>i just download the CDimage and install it
08:25<yow>ic
08:25<yow>i started learning & using linux back in 2003/2204 when i was in england
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08:25<yow>however, i have not learned much since :(
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08:26<bency>i learn it because i want to build a bbs site
08:26<yow>bbs site? interesting
08:26<yow>i have built some web, ftp sites
08:26<bency>my school got a WinTop bbs
08:27<bency>i want to make it more fun
08:27<yow>do u have the address? can i (visitors) access it?
08:27<bency>i've not build it yet
08:27<yow>ic
08:28<yow>haven't heard of wintop bbs
08:28<bency>cause its an old bbs system
08:28<yow>why bbs? is it actually web based
08:29<yow>afaik, bbs has been around for long time. why u still want to build a bbs syste? why not a web based forum?
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08:29<bency>well
08:30<bency>i dont know how to explain it
08:30<bency>i just like it interface
08:31<yow>it's ok, i'll find out more about it later
08:31<yow>ic
08:31<bency>my school's bbs site: bbs.yzu.edu.tw
08:32<yow>btw, do u have email? do u use msn, yim or skype?
08:32<yow>is it actaully webbbs.yzu.edu.tw?
08:32<bency>no
08:32<bency>telnet://bbs.yzu.edu.tw
08:33<yow>oic
08:33<yow>sorry, i have never access bbs b4 :)
08:33<bency>its ok
08:34<bency>u can use "pcmanx" to link
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08:35<yow>ic
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08:35<yow>i logged into it via telnet using "guest"
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08:36<yow>pcmanx is something new to me, thx for telling me :)
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08:36<bency>pcmanx for linux and pcman for windows
08:36<yow>do u always use the same nick here? do u come here everyday?
08:37<yow>got it
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08:37<bency>im not come here everyday
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08:37<yow>do u want to exchange email, msn, yim or skype with me?
08:38<bency>u can see in the bbs site im the manager of "complain"
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08:38<bency>thats ok...but is public here
08:38<bency>its public
08:38<yow>hmm
08:38<bremner>yow, bency: use /query
08:39<yow>bremner: thx, i forgot about it :)
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08:39<bency>thanks
08:39<yow>bremner: sorry for sending so many "unrelated" msgs here
08:40<bremner>yow: thanks for noticing. /query is also good for social chat, or #debian-offtopic, where everything is ok
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08:46<bremner>what is the package that is like top, but for monitoring which client is hammering the Xserver?
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08:57<Guest105>hola
08:57<Guest105>hi
08:58<bency>hi
08:58<Walex>bremner: none. there is however 'xrestop' which does a different thing.
08:58<Guest105>hi
09:00<Guest105>where are you from
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09:04<themill>!ubuntu-es Guest105
09:04<dpkg>Guest105: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en irc.freenode.net Ahi recibira mas soporte.
09:04<Guest105>where are you from bency
09:05<Guest105>hola
09:05<bency>from taiwan and playing MaJung
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09:06<Guest105>i am from spain
09:06<bency>cool
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09:07<lulu>salut
09:07<Guest105>how old are you
09:08<lulu>15
09:08<lulu>and you ?
09:08<Guest105>i am 11
09:09<Guest105>bay
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09:09<lulu>salut
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09:11<lulu>salut
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09:11<bremner>Walex: hmm, that is probably what I was thinking of.
09:13<lulu>what ?
09:13<lulu>do you spea
09:13<lulu>speak french ?
09:13<themill>!fr
09:13<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net.
09:14<bremner>!social
09:14<bremner>sigh.
09:14<lulu>what ?
09:14<abrotman>!ot
09:14<dpkg>Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions.
09:15<lulu>how are you?
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09:17<xayon_>huh, never tough I would see this kind of things on debian, but it's all like this lately =(
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09:18<themill>xayon_: most of the noise is coming from lost ubuntu users
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09:20<xayon_>themill: I've seen a lot legit debian-users spanish kids here, one told me that they've given them debian based computers at school...
09:20<xayon_>themill: but the last one was from ono. That ones had telefonica.
09:21<xayon_>themill: also, lulu seems to be connected from a nintendo ds, according to its ctcp version response Oo
09:21<lulu>SORRY i don't understand
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09:25<Zeadar>exit
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09:31<shiznatix>Hello. I am looking for a remote desktop program. Basically I have 2 computers running Lenny with Gnome. One is mostly a media server and the other is a laptop. I want to be able to control the server in the same way as windows remote desktop does. What program can do this?
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09:42<Walther>shiznatix - log on your media server with ssh -X (see ssh manpage)
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09:43<shiznatix>Not really what I want. I want a graphical interface without starting a new session. I already have a session running on the server with it showing a movie or something but I want to be able to manage the already running graphical session from a remote computer (so I don't have to get up, basically so its a remote control idea)
09:44<themill>!vnc
09:44<dpkg>methinks vnc is Virtual Network Computing (GUI remote-access), at http://www.realvnc.com, or http://www.tridiavnc.com, or ask me about <x-not-vnc>. Packages in Debian include tightvncserver xvncserver xvnc4server and x11vnc, "apt-cache search vnc" will turn up many more. Also ask about <vnc setup>. http://wiki.debian.org/VNCviewer
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09:54<chuche>hello
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10:31<Unmenschlich>hello, my 3d apps are running worse than before after upgrading yesterday. I'm using sid and a radeonhd 3450. Does anyone know a reason for this?
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10:33<cahoot>perhaps a look into Xorg.0.log might give a hint?
10:33<allu2>Unmenschlich: reinstall driver?
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10:35<Unmenschlich>oh the log says direct rendering and acceleration disabled
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10:37<Unmenschlich>but it also says that the extensions dri, dri2 and glx are loaded
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10:40<Djon_>Hi, I installed samba on a clean Debian install, and I modified the [homes] so they can be browsed and written. Back on windows I see my server but the login/pass are incorrect. How do I allow the Debian's users to connect?
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11:21<rdm77>hello, I'm installing debian on a raid1 disk, but the installation of grub fail, anyone willing to help?
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11:22<bency>how do i reply to someone ?
11:22<abrotman>huh?
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11:26<cahoot>bency: prepend your msg with the nick
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11:29<rdm77>I have a raid disk /dev/md0 with /boot while / and /home are on lvm volume on /dev/md1, where should grub be installed? The debian installer seems to fail no matter what...
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11:56<chaos>if i /etc/init.d/networking restart both of my NICs stay down ... but if i ifup eth0; ifup eth1 manually everything works ... what's the problem? :)
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12:01<petemc>chaos: do you have auto eth0 eth1 ?
12:01<petemc>in /etc/network/interfaces
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12:01<chaos>i do now ;)
12:02<chaos>but ... iirc eth0 did go online after reboot
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12:03<chaos>would allow-hotplug set it up?
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12:05<chaos>petemc: thx :)
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13:04<grummund>Hi, could anyone suggest why apache would suddenly stop serving VirtualHost domains?
13:04<grummund>domains which used to work now give the "Welcome to Your New Home in Cyberspace!" default page
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13:05<grummund>error.log shows nothing untoward when the site is accessed or apache is restarted
13:05<grummund>httpd.conf has no recent changes
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13:09<shiznatix>Hello. I am running vino on my media server that is connected to a very large monitor at a really high resolution. I am trying to control it through an eeepc with xtightvncviewer but the scrolling does not work properly (i can only see a part of the server at a time since its showing the other monitor resolution). Is there another program I can use that will at least have proper scrolling?
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13:12<cesurasean1>Package php5-imagick has no installation candidate - what is the package name on squeeze?
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13:17<cesurasean1>is it not possible to install php5-imagick on squeeze?
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13:17<djw>where can I get the xorg-xserver 7.4 package from?
13:17<ctrl_>ctrl@equipo:~$ cat /etc/issue
13:17<ctrl_>Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid \n \l
13:18<ctrl_>php5-imagick - ImageMagick module for php5
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13:21<diegorc09>hola
13:21<NuD>!es
13:21<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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13:22<chealer>cesurasean1: it isn't at the moment, no
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13:23<chealer>djw: there is no such thing
13:23<cesurasean1>chealer, thx
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13:37<sman>ciao
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13:37<sman>c'è qualcuno italiano?
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13:59<cesurasean1>The Suexec command on your system is configured to only run scripts under /var/www, but the Virtualmin base directory is /home. - how do edit the suexec path for Apache? I know you have to edit some file, but I forget where it is located at. Any help, please?
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14:04<themill>fael: /server irc.freenode.net ; /join #ubuntu-br
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14:12<cesurasean1>anyone?
14:13<cesurasean1>how do i edit the path to suexec's root? which file in apache do i edit?
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14:19<GeorgeDorn>Hello. How do I print info about an installed package. Like "dpkg --info somepackage.deb" but "without the .deb"?
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14:21<cesurasean1>found it. apt-get install apache2-suexec-custom, then edit www-data.
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14:25<abrotman>GeorgeDorn: aptitude show foo ?
14:26<GeorgeDorn>Oh yeah. Aptitude. I forgot about that one.
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14:26<GeorgeDorn>Thank you.
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14:53<meowcats>hello i installed squeeze last night, and was pleased to see xfce4-volumed working :) however today i find it not working, and xorg.conf is missing :|
14:53<meowcats>!
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14:54<adb>meowcats, /msg dpkg xorg.conf
14:55<meowcats>dpkg knows all
14:55<dpkg>Bob knows what he's talking about! Listen to Bob!
14:56<meowcats>why does volume daemon not work then?
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15:06<schms>test only
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15:07<meowcats>ok i restart and now xfce4-volumed works
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15:08<meowcats>i suspect it is because i install xfce4-notifyd and never restarted :)
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15:15<usuario>hola
15:15<usuario>hola alicia
15:15<alia>pesado
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15:42<bartolon>hola, alguien que hable español?
15:42<helmer>hello
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15:43<helmer>any body home
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15:44<Ganneff>!es
15:44<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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15:49<sithlord48>what is the best way to detect hw platform?
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15:56<el>hello, can somebody help me how to access my fat32 partition in debian
15:58<amphi>!vfat
15:58<dpkg>it has been said that vfat is a very fat 32-bit version of a pathetic filesystem, or apt-get install dosfstools, then man mkfs.vfat, or for information on getting write access for regular users, ask me about <vfatrw>, or you should not be using this filesystem unless Windows needs to read it.
15:59<amphi>!fat32
15:59<dpkg>modprobe vfat && mount -t vfat /dev/whatever /wherever . You cannot create a file larger than (2^32)-1 bytes (i.e. one byte less than 4 GB) on a FAT32 filesystem. See also <vfat>.
15:59<el>i have 4 partitions in my hd, windows 2000, data(fat32), debian, and swap
16:00<el>but when i try to access cant, even is i go root, i cant configure
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16:03<el>thanks for the help
16:03<amphi>win2k is ntfs?
16:03<el>yes, w2k ntfs, data is fat32 (formatted in windows) and debian of course ext3
16:04<amphi>!ntfs3g
16:04<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance, packaged for Debian. Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>.
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16:06<el>thanks guys
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16:08<cesurasean1>http://pastebin.com/hmth4HdD, can someone assist me with this problem?
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16:13<cesurasean1>seemed to be a problem with /etc/hostname
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16:18<christian>which (wireless nic) manufacturers are linux/debian friendly... ?
16:18<christian>I need either pcmcia or usb 1.0 nic
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16:19<christian>would prefer g/n nic... but I do not think n is compatible with 1.0 usb
16:19<mase>the intel's chips. but i doubt they have pcmcia or usb cards...
16:20<amphi>christian: see http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi perhaps
16:20<mase>whats g/n?
16:22<christian>amphi... thanks I will do that
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16:23<cesurasean1>or fix what uname(3) provides as a host's network name! - how do i do this, exactly?
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16:25<mase>cesurasean1 or set $myhostname in the amavisd's config to the real domain name of your mail server
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16:29<karbantarto>hello alll
16:30<karbantarto>can i get some help about ubuntu? (I cant connect to freenode to ubuntu support)
16:30<cesurasean1>mase, i have tried that, but does not seem to work.
16:30<karbantarto>i've setted up an aptproxy
16:30<karbantarto>i hoped that I can share my updates in lan, to other computers
16:30<cesurasean1>ah, i found problem. had to uncomment the line as well.
16:31<mase>cesurasean1 :D
16:31<karbantarto>and this command didnt work: sudo apt-proxy-import -r /var/cache/apt/archives
16:32<karbantarto>for example: 2010-02-27 22:24:59+0100 [-] [apt_pkg] No Packages files available for ubuntu-security backend
16:32<noflash>karbantarto, Ubuntu is off topic in here
16:33<karbantarto>yeah, but i cant connect to freenode ...
16:33<noflash>sorry
16:33<karbantarto>:(
16:33<karbantarto>i try over my znc :S
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16:33<karbantarto>but tx, bb
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16:33<petemc>karbantarto: google for freenide webchat
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16:34<karbantarto>hmm
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16:34<karbantarto>I ' ll se petemc
16:34<karbantarto>*see
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16:36<karbantarto>petemc
16:36<karbantarto>it writes
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16:36<karbantarto>that i have proxy
16:36<karbantarto>or firewall
16:36<karbantarto>what can i do ?
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16:38<akarito>Hi, I'm having trouble with getting my Wireless (USB) card to use any drivers, I've tried (sudo) make install with the (extracted) bz2 given, but it always comes out with "Error 2". I have a Ralink RT2780 USB.
16:38<akarito>The bz2 came from the site.
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16:41<djw>chealer: there used to be 7.4 packages in sid, which are kind of handy if you use fglrx
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16:44<akarito>Actually, is there any ralink deb file I could get? Or is the source all?
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16:47<paggas>If I type U in aptitude, is it equivalent to safe-upgrade or full-upgrade, which one?
16:47<mase>akarito is the firmware at the right position/dir?
16:47<mase>akarito or doesn't it need any?
16:48<akarito>mase: I don't know what you mean by firmware, on Ubuntu it installed okay by using "make install" with the source.
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16:49<mase>akarito what is the syslog telling you?
16:49<chealer>djw: you must be thinking of X.org 7.4
16:50<akarito>mase: When I make it? "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-i386/build: No such file or directory. Stop." is the only error.
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16:51<mase>akarito and your kernel is "2.6.26-2-i386"? tried to just create that folder?
16:51<akarito>mase: No, not that I know of.
16:51<akarito>mase: It shouldn't have the i386 part, I don't have i386.
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16:52<akarito>mase: I have "2.6.26-2-powerpc", as stated when I installed it.
16:53<akarito>(even though it said non-platform-specific)
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16:54<mase>akarito strange; powerpc != i386. :P
16:55<mase>akarito (what it was looking for)
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16:55<chealer>akarito: do you mean RT2870?
16:55<akarito>mase: Is there any way to tell "make" to fix it?
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16:55<akarito>chealer: The USB one, yes.
16:56<akarito>chealer: Oh, sorry :P
16:56<mase>akarito sorry, i can't tell you. maybe you can find some documentation in the bz2-archive
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16:57<chealer>akarito: did you see http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta ?
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16:58<akarito>chealer: No, I didn't even know there was a wiki. I was just told to come here :P
16:58<akarito>I will check that out, though.
16:59<chealer>!tell akarito about ralink
17:01<oskie>is it possible to install debian in an nfs root?
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17:03<mase>oskie shure. tried debootstrap command?
17:04<mase>oskie quite easy. i'm using it to set up thin-client-systems
17:04<oskie>mase: but how do you get started? i have successfully set up pxeboot so that i can boot the debian/ubuntu installer, but i don't know how to get a nfs root filesystem
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17:05<akarito>So I got it installed, but now how would I go about using a network for it? I don't have a Network UI...
17:06<mase>oskie just use debootstrap to set up a "basic" debian installation on any directory of your choice (on the main machine). then export the directory and configure your pxe environment to boot from that directory
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17:06<akarito>Never mind, I'll just search it on Synaptic.
17:07<oskie>mase: ah, i see, i'll try that
17:07<mase>oskie but you have to set up the initrd in that "sub"-installation to support nfs-boot
17:07<mase>oskie and copy the kernel and initrd to the tftp-directory of course...
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17:09<oskie>hm ok
17:10<mase>oskie debootstrap is just doing the "basic" stuff. other things that might have to be installed on the sub-system have to be done via "chroot"
17:11<mase>chroot to the system and install the things you need
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17:11<mase>(system: directory)
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17:12<oskie>mase: ok. debootstrap seems easy enough. but do you know if it supports i686 install on amd64 system?
17:13<mase>oskie shure, should work. mom
17:14<mase>oskie for example is used this command:
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17:14<mase>oskie "debootstrap --arch=i386 squeeze /srv/hosts/tcs http://ftp.debian.org/debian"
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17:15<mase>oskie where /srv/hosts/tcs was the destination of the sub-system
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17:18<oskie>mase: hm, ok
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17:32<sithlord48>whats the best way to detect hw platform in a script ?
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17:34<mase>uname -m
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17:47<Pishguy>who to find package categories ?
17:48<Pishguy> who to find package categories ?
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17:48<mase>in synaptic?
17:48<Pishguy>mase: no . on terminal
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17:49<mase>Pishguy in what way?
17:49<Pishguy>mase: command line or shell script
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17:51<Pishguy>who to search on bittorent ?
17:51<abrotman>huh?
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17:55<Pishguy>abrotman: on linux torrent programs
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17:57<abrotman>you want to download Debian ?
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18:15<gaston>tongas
18:15<gaston>hola
18:16<JuNix>gaston: hola :)
18:18<xpdt>hola
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18:32<meowcats>I think i find bug
18:32<meowcats>KDE install is HUGE compare to Xfce
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18:34<abrotman>that's not a bug .. that's by 'design'
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18:37<meowcats>designed memory leak?
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18:37<themill>eh?
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18:39<simonrvn>witf?
18:40<fnmueller>HELP REGISTER
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19:10<mib_1f60t7>Hello
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19:26<cesurasean>Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3.bin for module tg3 - what package do i need to install to fix such said problem?
19:27<chaos>what's tg3?
19:27<abrotman>firmware-linux-nonfree
19:28<abrotman>chaos: a chipset for a wired NIC
19:28<abrotman>erm .. a driver
19:28<chaos>cool
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19:29<chaos>do you think it's possible to have a function in a script which if called restarts said script?
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19:29<cesurasean>abrotman, add non-free to my apt sources, and install firmware-linux-nonfree?
19:29<ikarus>chaos: possible, even quite doable
19:29<themill>cesurasean: as I understand it, the chances are, you don't need that firmwrare anyway
19:30<ikarus>chaos: but it takes some care
19:30<abrotman>cesurasean: if you want to use your NIC
19:30<ikarus>chaos: you'll need to use exec
19:30<themill>!tg3
19:30<dpkg>[tg3] the driver for Broadcom Tigon3 (aka NetXtreme I) Ethernet chipsets, included in mainline Linux kernels. Firmware from userspace (Debian 2.6.29 and later kernels) is only required for BCM5701 A0 chipsets or for TCP Segment Offloading (TSO) functionality. Tigon3 firmware (tg3.bin, tg3_tso5.bin, tg3_tso.bin) is packaged for Debian in firmware-linux-nonfree, ask me about <non-free sources>.
19:30<abrotman>themill: AIUI .. it adds functionality
19:30<themill>abrotman: ^^ I was going on that
19:31<themill>(but it can't hurt)
19:31<cesurasean>abrotman, thx, i installed firmware-linux-nonfree anyways, just in case...
19:31<cesurasean>;)
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20:24<meowcats>does grub automatically detect a windows partition?
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20:26<gsimmons>meowcats: GRUB2 should (during update-grub operation), provided os-prober is installed.
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20:27<meowcats>gsimmons ok, does the partition need to be mounted?
20:27<gsimmons>No.
20:28<meowcats>excellent, thanks
20:28<meowcats>i remember it being added in some time ago automagically
20:28<meowcats>probably after an update?
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20:34<max>is any1 actaully here cuz i wanna talk
20:35<max>i c some1 named AlexMax my name is Max and my bro's name is Alex
20:35<max>lol\
20:35<max>lol
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20:55<viliny>could you guys help me with samba related issue, i get a weird error when trying to share a folder. http://paste.ubuntu.com/385424/
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20:56<AlexMax>heh
20:57<viliny>have found next to none documentation on that
20:57<AlexMax>well that's the oddest reason I've ever been highlighted
20:57<viliny>you got highlighted ?! what triggered it :D
20:57<AlexMax>someone stating that their brothers name + their name was also "alexmax"
20:58<AlexMax>very odd
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21:02<vook>I'm having some trouble with xcompmgr that started after a dist-upgrade in late January. I'm on a Macbook Pro running squeeze. Basically as soon as I start xcompmgr, the screen turns grey and starts flickering until I kill the process. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about this issue. I've rebuilt both xcompmgr and the Nvidia modules, installed different kernels, etc...
21:02<sney>viliny: 1) we don't support Ubuntu in #debian, and 2) you should re-read the instructions in the sample smb.conf and provide more details
21:03<viliny>you do not use the samba package on debian, damn, my debian does, what should i use instead? sorry for the pastebin that was the first one that popped in my head. fixed it tough had several versions of samba installed.
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21:04<sney>if you have several versions of samba installed that may be your problem. you should only have 1 version at a time.
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21:15<meowcats>how come in "/etc/default/portmap" the option "OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"" is turned ON by DEFAULT?
21:15<meowcats>that seems sort of counter intuitive seeing what its used for
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21:16<dondelelcaro>meowcats: because normally all you want is to use portmap for nfs mounting
21:16<dondelelcaro>meowcats: it's the only sane default
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21:17<meowcats>dondelelcaro but nothing can mount a share on that machine with that default
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21:18<meowcats>thats what i mean by "counter intuitive", because it makes nfs not work on lan
21:20<dondelelcaro>meowcats: uh, yes, they can
21:21<meowcats>how? if portmap is bound to loopback
21:21<dondelelcaro>meowcats: you can mount a share, you just can't act as an NFS sersver
21:21<meowcats>dondelelcaro sorry thats what i meant to say
21:21<dondelelcaro>meowcats: the former is far more common than the latter
21:22<meowcats>so thats on by default simply because its not "common" to act as a server?
21:22<dondelelcaro>meowcats: well, it's not more common, and its less secure
21:23<meowcats>ah, well for sake of security, thats a good reason
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21:25<dondelelcaro>meowcats: it is fairly well documented, and it's a pretty easy thing to change, too; there's also a debconf question about it
21:26<vook>I'm going to try a different composite manager - any suggestions other than compiz and xcompmgr ?
21:27<bja>dondelelcaro: Are you available for a little dpkg-bot related chat?
21:28<dondelelcaro>bja: marginally; what's the question?
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21:29<bja>differences between cmd and simple factoids how does the code differentiate them?
21:29<dondelelcaro>bja: leading cmd: is the clue, basically
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21:30<bja>ok, is it possible to link a command to a factoid
21:31<bja>write the factoid only one time to have it linked to the command
21:31<dondelelcaro>bja: nope
21:32<bja>ok, thx
21:33<dondelelcaro>well, I lie slightly; you can do it with see, but I don't think there are any factoids that do that
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21:35<bja>dondelelcaro: ok, i got it. Any extra commands on the syntaxis besides see and reply. Or their location in the code?
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21:37<bja>Factoids marked with #DEL# are to be deleted?
21:37<dondelelcaro>bja: yeah
21:38<bja>dondelelcaro: Thx for your time all bug you later :)
21:38<bja>s/all/i'll
21:39<dondelelcaro>bja: np
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21:42<Emmanuel_Chanel>hi
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21:49<icebrain>Emmanuel_Chanel: hi
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21:51<Emmanuel_Chanel>I have a debian router/server PC. And I seldom configure its networks by network-admin. But the network-admin doesn't recognize my network configuration.
21:51<Emmanuel_Chanel>How can I solve that problem?
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21:51<Emmanuel_Chanel>If no, I can configure the network by edinig /etc/network/interfaces , though.
21:52<sney>if your network setup is always the same, /etc/network/interfaces is plenty
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21:53<Emmanuel_Chanel>Well, now the router works. So I can connect this my PC to this chat.
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22:04<mib_ktgr6q>ok here is a interesting problem. I can make and install the drivers source but when I try to on the ARM it doesn't compile. It returns with "Makefile:1: *** missing separator. Stop.
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22:09<mib_ktgr6q>ok here is a interesting problem. I can make and install the drivers source but when I try to on the ARM it doesn't compile. It returns with "Makefile:1: *** missing separator. Stop.
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22:10<sney>!repeat
22:10<dpkg>Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org
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22:13<icebrain>the latest version of libssl broke my encfs filesystem. Should I file a bug? I don't think that a minor release like 0.9.8k-8 to 0.9.8m-1 should break compatibility, right?
22:14<sney>sounds like a bug to me
22:14<sney>check the bts first to see if anyone else has seen the same issue
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22:16<icebrain>I've skimmed through it and I haven't found any new bugs, but I'll pay more attention tomorrow before filling it.
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22:17<icebrain>but it seems I should statically compile encfs with libssl so I have a "safe" version available :)
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22:30<kolby>I have a job with a messy schedule. What position in the Debian community could I do which would not require me to be reliable for months at a time?
22:31<bja>kolby: helping out here on irc is a flexible position
22:33<kolby>bja, is there a guide or something? I'm not linux+ certified yet.
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22:34<bja>kolby: stick around and ask the local op for assistance. I am not certified and don't plan on beeing :)
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22:38<User_007>hello i have a doubt
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22:39<User_007>there is a port for freebsd on Debian right? can i just install the kernel on my linux version and use the same installed aplications on both kernels?
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22:40<ned>what ?
22:40<ned>no, no you cant lol
22:40<User_007>or i have to download all packages again for freebsd port?
22:41<ned>oh huh. maybe you can.
22:43<User_007>i have Debian GNU/Linux AMD64, can i just install the Kfreebsd-amd64 kernel and use the same installation from linux?
22:43<sney>the binaries are a different format. they are different OSes
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22:44<User_007>so there are different binaries for each kernel type
22:44<sney>yes
22:44<sney>packages with data files and scripts and other -common stuff may be transferrable, but not the majority
22:45<User_007>i though that since there are the same achitecture and both are unix-like it would work....
22:45<sney>sorry
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22:46<sney>at least you're better than the other guy who came in here a while demanding for us to help him make it work, and who had a hissy fit when told it was impossible
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22:46<User_007>but the code is the same, for example, firefox code can be compiled by both kernels and work?
22:47<User_007>no i don't want to install bsd, it's just a doubt...
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22:48<User_007>is the code the same for bsd and linux? or there are some different things?
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22:48<sney>the C code is the same for the most part
22:49<sney>that's called being POSIX-compliant
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22:49<sney>it's just what the compiler turns it into that's different
22:49<User_007>humm, i understand...
22:50<User_007>i have i final doubt, you said it is the same for the most part,... and what is not the "most" ? what changes?
22:51<User_007>* a final doubt
22:51<sney>well sometimes people code things specifically for one OS, then in order to make it work for another OS changes have to be made
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22:52<User_007>humm, like if i use an specific linux command that don't exist on bsd?
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22:55<User_007>humm, thank you a lot sney. Now i understand a bit more about this!
22:55<User_007>bye
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22:55<sney>no problem
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23:15<muaylek>may I ask for the solution to the interrupted installation?
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23:19<muaylek>I install debian via usb and when it started to download file from the internet for installation, I forced shut-down halfway
23:20<muaylek>now I can't enter a bootloader. I can't install debian
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23:20<muaylek>I can't set partition manually either
23:21<adb>reinstall
23:22<muaylek>can do everything except choose a partition to install
23:22<muaylek>guided or manually
23:23<muaylek>is my harddisk corrupted
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23:23<muaylek>?
23:24<adb>corrupted by what ?
23:25<adb>check info in BIOS about harddisk
23:26<muaylek>umm ok
23:27<adb>usually the BIOS is suffering , when done such things ..
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23:30<muaylek>ah yeah. I found that Debian-installer loader for windows just doesn't work properly when I have 2 windows on my drive.
23:30<muaylek>it will enter grub rescue
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23:37<muaylek>I am running harddisk diag in BIOS menu. Probably it'll take a while.
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23:40<cesurasean>is it not possible to install Zend Optimizer on PHP 5.3.1/
23:40<cesurasean>?
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23:51<jordanb>So is debian testing still on grub 1?
23:52<jordanb>milhouse[/b/grub]> grub-mkrescue --version
23:52<jordanb>/usr/bin/grub-mkrescue (GNU GRUB 1.98~20100128-1.2)
23:52<jordanb>I get that but I guess I don't really believe it.
23:52<dondelelcaro>jordanb: it has both versions
23:52<jordanb>When I boot I get the pretty blue screen.
23:53<dondelelcaro>jordanb: and that version is actually grub2
23:53<sney>it installs grub-pc by default now, which is grub2, but shows a 1.98 version... it's all a little confusing, but I'm sure they'll sort it out eventually
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23:53<jordanb>Ahh
23:54<sney>calling them grub-legacy and grub-pc is a little easier to hang on to
23:54<vasuvi>1.98 *is* a pre-release of 2; the old versions were 0.97 or the like
23:54<jordanb>Heh
23:54<vasuvi>They've never actually had a .0 release
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23:55<sney>I used lilo for so long that part of me still feels like grub is 'new
23:55<jordanb>So I need to install windows on this machine, I plan on shaving off a few gigs from my sda2 to make a sda3 and put it there. Then I guess I'll need an install cd to write grub back to the mbr. Can I use a stable CD for that (I assume not) or is there a testing cd I should use?
23:56<sney>if you chroot into your debian system it doesn't matter what livecd you use
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23:56<jordanb>hm that makes sense.
23:56<sney>but there are also squeeze installer cds if you want to do it that way
23:56<jordanb>I remember doing that with lilo way back when.
23:57<sney>yep, same principle
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23:57<sney>if you have os-prober installed it'll also autodetect your windows install and add it to the boot menu
23:58<jordanb>That'll be nice
23:58<anthony>can someone help me with ubuntu? no one in ubuntu server helped... at all. lol
23:58<sney>anthony: no, we can't support ubuntu because we don't use ubuntu.
23:58<sney>if you want a better supported OS use debian
23:58<anthony>lol, thanks anyway. :)
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23:59<jordanb>Heh
23:59<sney>we get at least one of those every day
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