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00:10<srini>Any command to get the monitor properties...
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00:12<bja>what is the bash equivalent for crypt?
00:12<slb_>i have a linux box and windows box and i set up samba to share files between them, however I also will be setting up a local development web server and I would like to be able to access it by name from windows, is that just a matter of setting the address of the linux box in my hosts file in windows or do i need to set up a dns or wins server on my linux box?
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00:21<adb>bja, now seems much better , thanks for your help
00:21<bja>adb: What was the problem finally?
00:21<adb>i suspect the BIOS , get wrong infos to kernel
00:22<adb>i stopped the machine 10 min
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00:24<adb>now [TZ00] (26 C) was (31 C)
00:25<clocker>Logged out and in, but still no change to local time and the timezone is wrong. Even on manual, it flips back before I can finish my changes. Tried sudo, root, and no go. Ideas?
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00:27<ml|>dpkg: set time
00:27<dpkg>To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior.
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00:31<ml|>but using openntpd or ntp would make things easier
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00:32<clocker>Thanks ml|
00:32<clocker>I've got ntp installed, but maybe not configured correctly
00:33<ml|>is it running? and is tzdata set corrrectly?
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00:34<ml|>are you in the us?
00:34<clocker>dpkg-reconfigure tzdata did the deed. Now to ensure ntp keeps it tight
00:35<ml|>!congratulate clocker
00:35<dpkg>Woohoo clocker, you did it!
00:35<ml|>np :)
00:35<clocker>Should learn to use the d**n bot... me
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00:37<ml|>clocker: /msg dpkg dpkgbot /msg dpkg help /msg dpkg msg the bot
00:38<clocker>Into the "handy" file that goes...
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00:42<djkow>is there way i can keep a process running after i log out?
00:42<ml|>yes, using screen
00:43<adb> &
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00:50<djkow>so if i append with & that will allow the program to run after logout?
00:50<djkow>...background it?
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01:04<dpkg>phpMyAdmin is a tool written in PHP intended to handle MySQL administration over the Internet. Can create and drop databases, create/drop/alter tables, delete/edit/add fields, execute any SQL statement, and manage keys on fields. Read /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian and run "dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin" to configure your web server. #phpmyadmin on
01:05<ml|>dpkg: tell servernoob about selftell
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01:07<servernoob>my bad
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01:40<bob493>what does 'proc' do in fstab?
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01:44<ml|>bob493: man proc and fstab
01:46<bob493>ml|: ok thanks
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01:51<bob493>when I'm running 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and it prompts for "Locales to be generated:", I should choose "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" for a standard 'english/US' setting right?
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01:53<ml|>that should be default
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01:54<bob493>ml|: ok thanks again ;)
01:55<bob493>ok another problem :(
01:57<bob493>I'm installing 'lvm2' and it starts throwing errors: "Setting up LVM Volume Groups /proc/mounts: fopen %s failed: No such file or directory"
01:57<bob493>"/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory"
01:57<bob493>"Failed to create lvm type filter"
01:58<bob493>this is a debootstrap install too :P
01:59<ml|>bob493: /msg dpkg lvm and ask again in a bit for help if you don't get help now
02:00<bob493>k thanks ml|
02:00<bob493>maybe I'll go to the #lvm freenode channel and ask :)
02:01<ml|>can't hurt, good luck
02:01<bob493>:D thanks
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02:08<bob493>so with debootstrap what do I have to add to the boot file? kernel+Grub right? anything else?
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02:10<ml|>bob493: /msg dpkg debootstrap might help
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02:11<ml|>and install guide if you haven't already
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02:13<bob493>ml|: yeah I've looked at the install guide too.... but it hasn't helped a whole lot :P
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02:13<bob493>thanks for the tips though :)
02:14<bob493>I think I almost have this debootstrap thing.....
02:14<bob493>I think my problem with lvm2 is that... even though I edited 'etc/fstab' i didn't mount the stuff
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02:14<bob493>listed in it
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02:35<bob493>I've edited my /etc/fstab to point a separate partition '/dev/sda1' to the boot '/boot'... but when I run the command "mount -a" (to mount fstab) it says that "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"???
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02:37<bob493>what am I doing wrong? I've tried it using "/dev/sda1" and using "UUID=[the uuid of /dev/sda1]"... both give the same error when I run "mount -a"
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02:39<sig_wall>seems that /dev/sda1 does not exist
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02:39<sig_wall>may be /dev/sdb1, /dev/hda1, etc.
02:40<bob493>yeah I checked with 'fdisk -l' and its /dev/sda1 :(
02:40<bob493>I have chrooted into the install though... I'm guessing it has something to do with that
02:41<bob493>but I'm not sure :( ???
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02:44<tholmith>bob493, exit the chroot with Ctrl+D and do: mount --bind /dev /mnt/chroot_dir/dev
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02:45<tholmith>replace /mnt/chroot_dir with the path to the chroot. note that you will have to remount /dev/pts inside the chroot if you need it.
02:45<tholmith>and inside the chroot do mount -a again and see what it says
02:46<bob493>ok... should I add '/dev/pts' and '/dev/sysfs' to the /etc/fstab also?
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02:46<tholmith>no. only proc is needed in fstab
02:46<bob493>I've already added /dev/proc to /etc/fstab
02:46<bob493>ok let me try it... thanks ;)
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02:48<bob493>tholmith: I'm doing this install with debootstrap through a liveCD of debian... would that alter the command 'mount --bind /dev /mnt/chroot_dir/dev'?
02:50<tholmith>not sure i understand your question... bind mounting /dev will give you acces to the 'real' /dev not to the one in the chroot. is what i did to install grub-pc on my debootstrap. i finished install yesterday after 2 months of strugling...
02:51<tholmith>are you using a tutorial or something like that to do the install?
02:52<bob493>not really... but I am using a lot of peoples' guides...
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02:53<tholmith>i was using a lot of peoples' guides too... but, i didn't do mount -a
02:54<bob493>what I've done is this.... I'm running debian currently off of a Debian LiveCD.... I split the HD I'm trying to install Debian into 2 partitions, a boot partition and a root partition... then I encrypted the root partition and divided it into 2 logical volumes (rootLV and swapLV)
02:55<tholmith>hehe, exactly what i was strugling with...
02:55<bob493>I installed debian using debootstrap to my rootLV
02:55<bob493>lol :)
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02:55<tholmith>if you're not in a hurry, you can wait a bit till i scan the notes i made and post them as pics, before making them text...
02:57<bob493>well I'm kinda in a rush lol
02:57<tholmith>or you can wait till i finish editing the text since the notes are kinda borked...
02:57<tholmith>like a half hour or a bit more...
02:57<bob493>I've kinda been taking notes too :) so I can do it again and don't forget
02:58<bob493>wow ok thats great! :D
02:58<tholmith>much less than 2 months... :-"
02:59<bob493>lol yeah :)
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03:02<chl>when i configure kernel 2.6.33, it says ata/atapi/... is deprecated, which section I need to go into so that I can configure for my IDE hard disk?
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03:12<tholmith>bob493, might take more than a hour, but am doing this right now, so if you wait you should be ok. :D
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03:17<sig_wall>chl: "Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers"
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03:19<bob493>tholmith: yeah that's fine :) I'll be around for a few more hours
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03:38<cenobyte>anyone on tonight ?
03:39<tholmith>10:39am here, so i think i can say 'no'. lol
03:40<cenobyte>maybe you can help me ?
03:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
03:40<cenobyte>im trying to install mencoder on lenny but it doesnt show up in synaptic
03:41<cenobyte>How do i install mencoder?
03:41<cahoot>I think you want debian.multimedia - /msg dpkg dmm
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03:44<cenobyte>dmm really isnt helping me i did post on the debian user forums hopefully someone responds to that later
03:44<cahoot>also (bsedie the point) you might consider using aptitude instead
03:44<cenobyte>i did mencoder isnt in the repos
03:44<bob493>cenobyte: you will probably have to add debian multimedia to your /etc/apt/sources.list
03:45<cenobyte>how do i do that
03:45<bob493>cenobyte: open up your terminal and type
03:45<bob493># sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
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03:45<bob493>go to the bottom
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03:46<cahoot>cenobyte: /msg dpkg dmm lenny - follow directions
03:46<bob493>and add the line "deb lenny main non-free"
03:47<bob493>then hit Ctrl+o and then Ctrl+x
03:47<cenobyte>ok i did that
03:47<bob493>ok now download this to your desktop:
03:48<bob493>then run this in the terminal
03:48<bob493># dpkg -i Desktop/debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb
03:48<bob493>oh with sudo :P
03:49<cahoot>presuming an ubuntuish setup?
03:49<bob493># sudo dpkg -i Desktop/debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb
03:49<cenobyte>ok got it
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03:49<bob493>ok so now run this in the terminal: # sudo aptitude update
03:50<bob493>now mencoder should show up in synaptic
03:50<cenobyte>thnxs bob im able to install mencoder now
03:50<bob493>np :)
03:50<tholmith>bob493, on debian, sudo has to be configured with visudo, or the user that will use sudo has to be in group sudo. quite interesting it worked for cenobyte...
03:51<bob493>tholmith: oh yeah I always forget that since I always visudo myself on a new install :)
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03:56<bob493>cenobyte: by the way you can delete that "keyring.deb" on the desktop :)
03:56<tholmith>bob493, half of the howto is done, the other half might take some time more...
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03:57<cenobyte>im really enjoying debian
03:57<cenobyte>i left ubuntu because of pulseaudio
03:58<cahoot>disabling PA wasn't an option?
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03:58<bob493>tholmith: so will that 'mount --bind /dev /dev/chroot_dir/dev work for that boot partition problem I was having?
03:59<bob493>is that what worked for you?
03:59<cenobyte>i tried and for some reason every time i disabled pulse audio i lost sound even though i had alsa installed
04:00<cenobyte>anyway i find debian more flexible then ubuntu
04:00<tholmith>bob493, mostly yes, but not sure...
04:00<tholmith>what i mean is that i didn't had that problem...
04:00<bob493>cenobyte it could be because of ubuntu's use of testing packages :P
04:01<bob493>ok let me try it then :)
04:01<tholmith>doing the install on a different system?
04:01<bob493>no :)
04:02<cenobyte>im just glad debian doesnt use it
04:02<cenobyte>i often switch between a usb headset and my onboard sound and with pulse it was a headache to do it
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04:03<tholmith>bob493, lenny right? and you want to install lenny, squeeze or sid?
04:04<bob493>yeah lenny :)
04:04<bob493>I think your command work like a charm :D
04:04<bob493>genius :)
04:05<chl1>i re compile the kernel on virtualbox
04:05<tholmith>bob493, it shoudl be mount --bind /dev /chroot_dir/dev not mount --bind /dev /dev/chroot_dir/dev
04:05<bikerboy>hey can anyone tell me how to perform
04:05<bikerboy>dns spoofing
04:05<chl1>but it always complains that block is not found
04:05<chl1>it looks like ATA/... not configured correctly
04:06<chl1>which module I need to tick so that it can boot??
04:06<bob493>thomith: yeah I used the command 'mount --bind /dev /mnt/root/dev' because I have the rootLV mounted to '/mnt/root'
04:08<tholmith>bob493, here is a preliminary review, still with bugs/missing things i think:
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04:08<tholmith>also i forgot to say before, i've done this with sid not with lenny...
04:09<tholmith>will expire in 1 hour though. :P
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04:09<bob493>k thanks I'll grab it :)
04:12<bob493>tholmith: for cryptsetup you should consider using ESSIV instead of plain with your cipher it adds protection
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04:13<erorrs>i am havin kde-crash in kubuntu 9.10
04:13<tholmith>depends on the cipher. i used aes-xts not aes-cbc. xts does IV in a different way.
04:13<bob493>ahh yeah I see that
04:13<erorrs>what i will do?
04:14<cahoot>erorrs: join an ubuntu channel
04:14<cahoot>erorrs: like #ubuntu on
04:14<tholmith>erorrs, ask on #kubuntu on
04:14<ml|>erorrs: this for debian only /join #ubuntu on freenode
04:14<erorrs>the bot kicked me cant get in there
04:14<ml|>ah, kubuntu
04:16<erorrs>what i do?
04:16<ml|>erorrs: sorry, but you are offtopic here; only for debian support in here
04:17<erorrs>atleast tell me how to get in there .the bot kicked me
04:18<ml|>erorrs: /join #freenode; you might get help there to get in channel
04:18<chl1>hi I get this message `not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown block(0,0)'. in ATA/ATAPI/ ...(deprecated) section, which module I need to tick so that this message may go away?
04:18<bob493>tholmith: I used ctr not xts because I was worried about the xts module still being experimental :)
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04:19<tholmith>bob493, dunno what to say. to use xts i had to install sid. not sure what is the status of squeeze. i don't think lenny suports it yet, but i might be totally wrong...
04:20<tholmith>i mean 'yet', as in it might support it with some modifications...
04:20<bob493>the last time I checked the linux kernel xts was still experimental... that was about a month ago
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04:22<bob493>I was told that since xts was "experimental" it could lead to a full cryptosystem compromise... and was advised to use ctr-essiv :P
04:22<bob493>I was going to use xts too, before this friend told me this lol :)
04:24<tholmith>dunno what to say. is quite stable for me on sid. also used in openbsd where is the 'default' recommendation...
04:25<bob493>I though I'd share it because it was unknown to me until a couple of days ago... It's probably a paranoid recommendation :)
04:26<bikerboy> is dere any way for dns spoofing
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04:30<bob493>tholmith: your guide looks exactly what I've done :) lol
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04:30<bob493>bikerboy: I think there is, but I don't know how to do it :P
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04:30<tholmith>bikerboy, what do you actually want to do? there are some ways, but i guess you should google more...
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04:33<tholmith>bob493, if you are not going to use the howto to install sid, i think i can leave it like that for today... if you change your mind and want to swith to sid later to get xts, i hope i'll finish the howto till then...
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04:33<tholmith>finish as in fix the text and duble check.
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04:37<bob493>tholmith: that's fine. thanks for your help :) I have one more question...
04:37<bob493>Does grub-pc install the Grub boot loader to the boot drive?
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04:42<flo`>i've running debian lenny wit xfce as DE, and i'd like to lock my screen. just a blank screen an a password box. is that possible?
04:43<flo`>xflock4 does not work, because there's no xlock
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04:47<EmleyMoor>I'm not sure if the feature I want to request should be a feature of iceweasel or PrefBar - I want to have UA-spoofing individually per tab
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04:49<flo`>when i have wicd installed, do the networking and the ifupdown scripts still need to start?
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04:57<flo`>chl1, xscreensaver looks like it can do much more than i want ;)
04:57<flo`>"client-server model" etc
04:58<flo`>is tere a lightweight alternative?
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05:25<EmleyMoor>Is there a safe way to get UFS rw support in Debian?
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05:30<EmleyMoor>Ah, so for 44BSD it's supported at least for some kernels? Right...
05:30<EmleyMoor>(and ufs2)
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05:30<tholmith>bob493, sorry for delay. depends on grub version. bind mount /dev to be able to use it. on lenny i think you have to do: aptitude install grub-pc && grub-install /dev/hda1 && update-grub
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05:33<bob493>tholmith: np... I think i figured it out... I installed grub-pc and it just kinda auto-configured I think :)
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05:34<tholmith>bob493, i think you have to do grub-install /dev/hd1 and update-grub anyway.
05:35<bob493>tholmith: ok thanks... I'll have to do that later... I'm installing gnome now and it's taking forever :)
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05:37<tholmith>i used tasksel install standard and then from the tasksel interface i installed desktop. this way it will get almost everything
05:38<bob493>tholmith: when you installed the linux kernel did you tell you needed additional firmware for your graphics card?
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05:40<tholmith>bob493, in normal situations you don't need. most graphics cards work out of the box. if you want 3d aceleration on nvidia or ati you might need to use some proprietary drivers. but that isn't officially supported. i do use proprietary nvidia though. this might be you'r need anyway.
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05:41<bob493>I have an x1600 ati
05:42<locklace>bob493: installing the firmware-linux package is a good idea
05:42<bob493>I was looking under the sid linux-kernel and it said firmware for some things... but under the squeeze linux-kernel it didn't say anything... I installed the squeeze kernel.... I was just curious
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05:43<bob493>locklace: is that for squeeze too?
05:43<locklace>,versions firmware-linux
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05:43<judd>firmware-linux -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.17~bpo50+1; squeeze/non-free: 0.22; sid/non-free: 0.23
05:44<bob493>locklace: ok thanks
05:45<tholmith>that will install firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree. if you want to use only free software you can install just firmware-linux-free.
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05:46<bob493>tholmith: thats good to know. thanks :)
05:46<tholmith>also note that since firmware-linux is in non-free you'll have to add non-free to the sources.list
05:46<bob493>tholmith: yeah
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05:50<dpkg>methinks pk is .pk for Pakistan
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06:14<ismael>you spicking spanish
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06:15<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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06:16<ismael>for wath my bored
06:17<ismael>for that my bored
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06:17<deavid>ismael: hello
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06:18<ismael>It(He,She) is someone is?
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06:18<ismael>deavid: you spicking spanish
06:18<locklace>!es-social ismael
06:18<dpkg>ismael: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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06:19<ismael>locklace: do we speak in spanish?
06:20<ismael>for that?
06:21<ismael>is my language
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06:21<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
06:21<ismael>it is my lenguage
06:21<locklace>ismael: /join #debian-es
06:21<deavid>ismael: you have to understand that this channel is for english speakers;
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06:23<ismael>symp: hello
06:23*tholmith LOL
06:24<ismael>you spicking spanish?
06:24<ml|>!unbuntu-es ismael
06:24<ml|>!ubuntu-es ismael
06:24<dpkg>ismael: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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06:24<deavid>i feel that those people doesn't use Linux at all
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06:24<ismael>we speak in spanish?
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06:25<ml|>ismael: xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu
06:25<EmleyMoor>ismael: You have beet advised that this is an English-speaking channel. Please do not attempt to solicit conversation in Spanish
06:25<EmleyMoor>been, even
06:25<EmleyMoor>Damn my Dvorak typos
06:26*babilen gets some popcorn
06:26<deavid>ahhh, so that's the problem. They are people using Ubuntu, and using the default chat in the distro
06:26<ismael>bye bye
06:26<locklace>i think we should start billing canonical by the minute
06:26<ml|>deavid: it's a long story ;)
06:26<cockroach>is #debian the default in ubuntu?
06:26<tholmith>i wonder how they get in here...
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06:27<bremner>ml|: it was in xchat for a long time though
06:27<ismael_>already i am again
06:27<deavid>ml|: today i don't have time for stories, but if someone has a blog post, it would be funny to read it
06:27<ml|>bremner: yes I know it still is ;)
06:28<ismael_>my lenguage is spanish?
06:28<ml|>!ubuntu-es ismael_
06:28<dpkg>ismael_: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en Ahi recibira mas soporte.
06:28<ismael_>someone is spicking spanish?
06:28<ml|>maybe if we ignore he will go away?
06:28<babilen>just ignore the troll
06:28<deavid>ignore the troll
06:29<ismael_>It is all the same to me that the chat is in English
06:29*tholmith LOL
06:29<deavid>ismael_: google translate won't help you here.
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06:30<ml|>bremner: /ctcp ismael version and you will see
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06:30<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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06:35<tholmith>ml|, remember astomith?
06:36<ml|>tholmith: /j #debian-offtopic please
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06:38<locklace>!lart aja
06:38*dpkg whacks aja with the cluebat
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06:38<babilen>!ubuntu-es aja
06:38<dpkg>aja: Ubuntu esta basado en Debian, pero no es Debian, y dificilmente tendra los estandares de Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Por favor conectese a #ubuntu-es en Ahi recibira mas soporte.
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06:50<peej>how can I play the radio at from firefox? I can pick up the .m3u and play it with for i in `grep stream jamendo-playlist.m3u` ; do mplayer "$i"; done ; but that isn't too handy.
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06:51<peej>(I'm using lenny)
06:52<peej>(and debian-multimedia)
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06:54<abrotman>peej: isn't there a mozilla-mplayer plugin ?
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07:21<peej>abrotman, thanks, that was what I was missing.
07:22<abrotman>glad it worked
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07:28<peej>Abrotman, uh, but how do I know what track is playing now?
07:29<abrotman>peej: i know it exists .. i don't use it
07:29<abrotman>can't you hover over it or something ?
07:30<abrotman>peej: wait a moment .. guide me to which link you're trying to play
07:30<peej>ah, now (on 2nd track) it's showing what is playing. Also, right click gives a save as option, which lets me know what track it is.
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07:32<abrotman>when i click play .. it spawns a window and starts a little flash player (i think it's flash(
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07:33<peej_> is what I was using. I'm not using a recent flash I guess.
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07:34<abrotman>or you disabled popups perhaps ?
07:35<abrotman>yeah .. it just keeps popping up a player for me
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07:41<jon__>nforce forcedeth driver giving problem , no RX on ethernet port any solutions pls ?
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07:42<jon__>Any helps for nvidia nforce forcedeth driver problem ?
07:42<jon__><jon__> The ethernet port shows up .. but no Rx indication , frame errors reported on rx
07:42<peej_>abrotman, pop-ups were allowed, no flash popped up though.
07:43<abrotman>peej_: weird .. 'It Just Works' .. for me
07:43<abrotman>peej_: i was using FF .. when i used epiphany, it did download the m3u
07:43<peej_>abrotman, you have a standard lenny?
07:43<babilen>peej_: NO popup at all? It works here as well - listening to it right now :)
07:43<abrotman>peej_: this mahcine is squeeze
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07:44<abrotman>peej_: actually .. epiphany can't even display the page properly .. so ignore thta epiphany is even pretending to be a browser
07:45<jon__>ephiphany has only basic rendering capabilities
07:45<jon__>try opera or mozillz
07:45<abrotman>jon__: not quite .. it's webkit .. should be capable, but it's buggy as hell
07:45<peej_>I guess it's flash then. I can't play youtube from the browser either apparently 'cos it's too old.
07:45<abrotman>peej_: /msg dpkg bpo .. get the flashplugin-nonfree from there perhaps
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07:45<babilen>peej_: You could install flashplugin-nonfree from backports
07:45<jon__>youtube requires flash support
07:45<jon__>flash plugin must be installed
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07:46<abrotman>he has one installed, but it's too old he says
07:47<jon__>but do a flash plugin test available at
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07:47<jon__>this verifies plugin presence in ephiphany
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07:48<abrotman>anyways ...
07:49<peej_>jon__, thanks. Oddly enough, adobe thinks I have the latest linux version
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07:49<valdyn>peej_: did you check "about:plugins" to see what is really handling your flash content?
07:50<jon__>so your plugin installation is correct ? Does it show Video and Audio Capability status
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07:50<peej_>ah, hang-on, no-script was blocking some other stuff ( Unblocked that, and youtube is now running ok.
07:51<peej_>(still like the clive package though ;-) )
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07:51<jon__>congrats peej
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07:52<jon__>Any friends with nvdia nforce ethernet card .. ?
07:54<peej_>jon__, have you checked the cable and card by swapping?
07:54<jon__>Ya, i changed cable ... No results
07:55<jon__>ethernet port comes up and but doesnt show up any Rx bytes
07:55<jon__>Rx count remains zero
07:55<peej_>has it ever worked?
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07:55<jon__>But Rx shows errors and frame errors
07:55<jo>any idea how to force monitor sync range? got problems with my mga driver and screen resolution
07:56<jon__>yes it was working fine ... then stopped working ... once worked again in knoppix
07:56<jon__>many guys got same problem ( searched google )
07:56<abrotman>jo: does X work at all?
07:56<jo>abrotman: yes, but wrong resolution
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07:57<peej_>jon__, done a kernel upgrade or something like that recently that may have broken it?
07:57<abrotman>jo: tried 'xrandr' ?
07:57<jo>abrotman: no
07:57<jon__>I was using the latest one in ubuntu Karmic Coala ..
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07:57<jo>abrotman: how?
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07:58<abrotman>jo: it's a program
07:58<jon__>research indicates that the forcedeth has a bug that sets some wrong registers in the device
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07:58<abrotman>jon__: so what is your current 'uname -r' ?
07:58<jon__>the problem presists in windows also
07:59<abrotman>sounds like a hardware problem
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07:59<peej_>jon__, once upon a time I had a via-rhine that croaked on kernel upgrade. I recompiled the viarhine subtree from earlier kernel source that time. You could try the knoppix code?
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08:00<peej_>jon__, oh, and have you consider the switch may be flakey?
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08:00<jon__>right now im not running linux .. ( i m in windows ) .. With knopixx it worked once and for subsequent boots the it didnt work
08:00<peej_>jon__, hot boots? cold boots? both?
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08:01<jon__>yes both , even removed laptop battery once
08:01<abrotman>jon__: so which version of Debian are you using?
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08:01<jon__>The switch is fine .. I tried back to back pc connection with a cross cable
08:02<jon__>didn't work
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08:02<Roms>Hi, I have a problem when I try to start kde on Debian live, I have the following message "/usr/bin/startx: line 141: /iusr/bin/mcookie: Input/output error Couldn't create cookie"
08:02<peej_>yeah, jon__, out with it, which version of debian?
08:02<jo>abrotman: I don't understand how to force resolution with xrandr
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08:02<jon__>in ifconfig eth0 errors are reported and frame errors are present
08:02<abrotman>jo: if you just type 'xrandr' .. it should show you a list of resolutions
08:02<valdyn>Roms: that error means that one block device its trying to write to is broken
08:03<valdyn>Roms: that could be your harddisk
08:03<jon__>right no no debian .. i was using it for a long time .. recently switched to ubuntu ..
08:03<jon__>but now no linux .. i have to install one
08:03<Roms>valdyn, it is a live cd so it shouldn't be my hdd
08:03<jo>abrotman: ok, but not the right one
08:03<abrotman>jon__: then please go ask #ubuntu on
08:03<valdyn>Roms: it is whatever block device it is trying to write to
08:03<abrotman>jo: MGA card? can you put the 'xrandr' in a pastebin (
08:04<jo>abrotman: yes,
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08:05<Roms>valdyn, but at first, at boot it tried to launch kde (and i got my usual message with my config "cannot display...."
08:05<jo>abrotman: I have 1024*678
08:05<Roms>and some f**** is trying to hack my wifi
08:05<abrotman>jo: if you type 'aptitude install xorg' .. does it want to install anything ?
08:05<Roms>(this is why i get disconnected, sorry)
08:05<jon__>Ok i will chk that .. . I will try ubuntu karmic coala , compile latest kernel
08:05<jon__>thanks everybody ..
08:06<Roms>So i had to edit xorg.conf, but now it just simply doesn't want to launch x
08:07<abrotman>jo: so let it install those .. restart X .. also what is 'lspci -nn | grep VGA' .. you can paste that single line here
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08:08<Roums>I plugged an rj45 cable for now...
08:08<Roums>I hate Wifi in big towns and those deauth attacks
08:08<jo>abrotman: 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400/G450 [102b:0525] (rev 82)
08:09<abrotman>thta's an old card .. shold work fine
08:09<jo>abrotman: is there a command to restart x?
08:09<abrotman>jo: what's in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
08:09<abrotman>judd: xorg 102b:0525
08:09<judd>In lenny, device 102b:0525 is matched by xorg driver: 'mga'.
08:09<jo>abrotman: noting
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08:10<abrotman>jo: do you have a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
08:10<jon__>hi inet
08:10<jo>abrotman: no
08:10<inet>how r u
08:10<abrotman>jo: restart X (logout/login) .. then paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
08:11<jo>abrotman: k
08:11<abrotman>inet: do you have a Debian question ?
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08:11<abrotman>or not
08:11<jon__>no not right now ...
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08:11<jon__>i m new to irc .. just observing this orc world
08:11<Roums>So, if I just boot on the Cd i have "Couldn't use this display mode" something like that... so i edit xorg.conf, and can't launch x because of the message I wrote before
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08:12<Roums>On tty2 i see "module is unknown" displayed
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08:13<jon__>Roums .what abt the Xorg log
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08:15<abrotman>jo: and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 100% empty/missing ?
08:16<jo>abrotman: yes
08:16<jon__>try dpkg-reconfigure for xserver-xorg
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08:17<jon__>i don't rem the cmd .. i m in win now
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08:19<jon__>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
08:19<jo>if you don't mind I try to find an solution with abrotman first...
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08:19<abrotman>jon__: that doesn't do anything anymore
08:20<abrotman>well .. nothing to solve this
08:20<jo>I heard sories about bad maintainership for mga driver in debian
08:20<jon__>ok thats fine .. no probs
08:20<abrotman>jo: you may want to ask #debian-x .. it seems that the mga driver is failing for no real stated reason that I can see
08:21<jo>abrotman: ok, thank you
08:21<abrotman>jo: they also have a mailing list if no one answers
08:21<abrotman>jo: is it an old monitor?
08:21<Roums>jo what is the problem ?
08:21<Roums>jon__, wait a second i am rebooting
08:22<jo>abrotman: hp 72, no tft, got problems with an dell monitor too, also no tft
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08:23<abrotman>jo: it's saying that the sync is out of range .. perhaps you'll need to specify in your xorg.conf a rate
08:23<Roums>I think i have the same problem as you jo
08:24<Roums>I have a solution (with my installed debian, not the same problem as the live cd :)
08:24<Roums>edit you xorg.conf to look like this :
08:24<abrotman>jo: you can try 'X -configure' to generate an xorg.conf .. and then edit it to try to get better results
08:24<Roums>it worked with Dell monitor
08:26<jo>ok, so I need to logout first
08:26<abrotman>yes, sorry, should have mentioned that
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08:27<jon__>in xorg.conf maintain only one resolution and use the lowest colourdepth
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08:32<Roums>I managed to edit xorg.conf and launch it, now i get "Could not start kstartupconfig" Check your installation"
08:32<Roums>(funny for a Debian live cd)
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08:37<jo>man how do you login to X again in a konsole session as non root?
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08:38<Roums>sudo ?
08:39<Roums>you should have a default account with user as login
08:39<jo>I can login to the konsole
08:39<jo>but not back to kdm / x again
08:39<jo>startx doesn't work as user
08:39<jo>kdm can't be started as user nor root from konsole
08:40<abrotman>why doesn't startx work ?
08:40<themill>jo: do you mean "konsole" the kde terminal application or "console" old-fashioned black and white screen
08:40<Roums>sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ?
08:40<themill>!sudosmite Roums
08:40*dpkg takes a lump of 2x4 to Roums and yells "This is not #ubuntu!!!1!"
08:40<sam100023>how to connect to ..pls help?
08:40<jo>abrotman: then I login as root
08:41<abrotman>sam100023: /server
08:41<Roums>themill, but this command works on my debian
08:41<abrotman>jo: you do'nt want to login to X as root
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08:41<jo>abrotman: right
08:41<abrotman>Roums: but won't work for everyone .. sudo is not installed by default on debian
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08:42<jo>abrotman: but root can only use startx
08:42<Roums>abrotman, it is on the debian live cd
08:42<sam100023>tried..but still did'nt work
08:42<abrotman>Roums: good .. that still doesn't mean jo has it
08:42<Roums>but sorry for that
08:42<abrotman>sam100023: be less vague
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08:42<jo>I have a /root/
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08:42<sam100023>is there anyway round???
08:43<jo>after X -configure
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08:43<jo>(couldn't run that command as user)
08:43<abrotman>sam100023: why does it not work ?
08:44<abrotman>jo: so you would move that file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
08:44<Roums>abrotman, in fact I don't know if I really need the debian live cd, I just wanted to copy my debian installation on a new hdd
08:44<Roums>and I saw on the internet it would be better to boot on a live cd to do it
08:44<Roums>but as the debian live cd refuses to login for me...
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08:45<sam100023>its trying to connect :8001 unreachable???
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08:45<abrotman>sam100023: that's not what i said ?
08:45<jo>abrotman: then restart x again?
08:45<abrotman>jo: sure
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08:46<sam100023>debian works??? ubantu dosn't any ideas!!!!
08:46<abrotman>ask #ubuntu on
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08:47<abrotman>sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server"
08:47<jo>abrotman: no changes yet
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08:53<Roums>It seems i have an Input.output error on kstartupconfig
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08:53<Roums>Will try another live cd it will be easier i guess
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08:59<Roums>jo does it work now ?
08:59<jo>Roums: no
08:59<sam100023>still nothing can we change the port...
09:00<jo>Roums: you only have that part in xorg.conf
09:00<jo>the part you pasted?
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09:00<abrotman>sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server"
09:00<Roums>Not exactly
09:00<Roums>jo I had those thing to my existing xorg.conf
09:01<sam100023>tried asking for port no...
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09:01<Roums>juste to the Device Monitor and Screen sections, and I don't touch other sections
09:01<Roums>there is a typo in the informations I pasted, VertRefhresh instead of VertRefresh
09:02<sam100023>how to change the channel...
09:02<Roums>sam100023, /join #channel
09:02<babilen>sam100023: Try "/join #ubuntu" (on freenode)
09:03<babilen>!tell sam100023 -about irc tutorial
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09:04<sam100023>clicking on list..freenode...that what i been doing...
09:04<abrotman>that's not what i said ..
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09:05<abrotman>why would you ask us if you're not going to do what we tell you ?
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09:05<Roums>ok Ubuntu live cd works fine to log into gnome but doesn't recognize my 3ware controller
09:05<sam100023>pls do make it more window users..
09:06<Roums>What is the best thing to do to copy my existing debian installation to another hdd ?
09:06<abrotman>sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server"
09:06<babilen>Roums: I found grml to be a great live cd. YYMV
09:06<abrotman>sam100023: that does NOT involve clicking anything
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09:07<Roums>babilen, i will try that, thanks
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09:11<sam100023>is there any other place getting help for ubantu???
09:12<themill>Try their forums on their website.
09:12<abrotman>sam100023: in your irc client .. type "/server"
09:12<abrotman>why is this so hard? trolling perhaps?
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09:13<sam100023>im using xchat in ubantu 9.1
09:13<abrotman>sam100023: why can't you type what i've been telling you to type ?
09:13<abrotman>TYPE .. not click
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09:15<Roums>sam100023, if you were able to come here you should be able to go on freenode, in xchat just type what abrotman told you
09:15<Roums>and after your are connected to freenode's server, you can join the channel
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09:17<sam100023>its showing connecting to : 8001 after that show connection refused!!!
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09:18<jar06>sam100023, if you mean the irc server so you must exchange "chat" with "irc" i mean ""
09:18<abrotman>STOP CLICKING
09:18<themill>sam100023: if you're not going to follow the advice that people give you, then why are you asking for it? Perhaps you'd like to try the ubuntu forums at
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09:23<StarkD>how do I set the default gnome calender to start on Mondays instead of Sundays in Debian Lenny?
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09:24<babilen>StarkD: What is the default Gnome calendar?
09:24<cahoot>depends on your locale?
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09:25<cahoot>(starts with monday here - hence the assumption)
09:26<Roums>Ok i copied all my / onto the new hdd, is there anything to check before I try to boot on it ?
09:26<StarkD>hm I got LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
09:27<babilen>I would either assume that it depends on your locale (try starting it with a different locale) or that it is configurable for the application. Can't help you with the latter because I am still unsure what the "default Gnome calendar" is you are referrig to
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09:27<StarkD>babilen cahoot: but should that matter? the calender incorrectly shows that Sunday 2010-03-14 belongs to week 11
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09:27<babilen>StarkD: You mean the calendar applet in the panel?
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09:27<StarkD>babilen: precisely
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09:29<babilen>Ok, that might be a bug. You could report it. Try a different locale; en_GB.UTF-8 for example (that even gives you nice colo*u*rs)
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09:30<babilen>I am not aware of a way to configure that explicitly - You could also ask in some gnome specific channel. The most active channels are on
09:30<StarkD>babilen: ok thanks. I'll see what #gnome say about it
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09:31<babilen>StarkD: But please report that as a bug if you can confirm it and check if it is indeed locale dependent.
09:31<StarkD>yes will do
09:32<babilen>StarkD: The point is that I am not aware of anything i configured about it and i have 14/03/2010 in week 10
09:32<StarkD>you do?
09:32<babilen>en_GB.UTF-8 locale here
09:32<babilen>and weeks start on monday - as they should :)
09:32<StarkD>ok I'll try out en_GB.UTF-8 then
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09:45<Roums>Grub is starting but debian won't boot on my new hdd (usb hdd)
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10:25<Takayama>If I disconnect an USB hard drive and re-connect it (by plugging it in a free socket), it regulary re-mounts not in /media/foo, but in /media/foo-1 ... hoiw can I tell Debian to always mount a specific drive into the same directory? I know it must be possible via udev, however, I'm kind of struck here.
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10:27<babilen>Takayama: unmounting it before you unplug it might help ;)
10:27<cahoot>Takayama: create entries in fstab based on uuid?
10:28<babilen>or based on labels
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10:28<Takayama>babilen: I know ... however, a system for end-users that are windows junkies doesn't have that luxury ;)
10:29<Takayama>babilen: unfortunately, no. At this point, it isn't even in fstab.
10:29<babilen>which also means that you have a bunch of people walking in with random sticks?
10:29<cockroach>hitting them with a hammer whenever they don't unmount it might help...
10:29<babilen>!lart windows junkies
10:29*dpkg steals windows junkies's mojo
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10:30<Takayama>means I have some guys who "just wanna check out that file" and randomly unplug my stuff
10:30<cockroach>again, hammer
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10:31<valdyn>Takayama: did you unmount it prior to reconnecting?
10:32<Takayama>well, if only life would be that easy. I know I want a technical solution for a non-technical problem here, which generally is a bad idea, but please bear with me ;)
10:32<babilen>valdyn: Random "windows junkie" walking in who plug/unplug usb sticks randomly :)
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10:32<valdyn>babilen: and windows will not always assign the same driver letter either
10:32<Takayama>valdyn: scenario: drive is mounted, some idiot storms in, plugs it out, I have zero control before that happens, I replug, and my mount directory has changed.
10:33<babilen>Takayama: Do you want the same drive mounted to some fixed location?
10:33<valdyn>Takayama: then you have the responsiblity to clean up the old mountpoint
10:33<Takayama>babilen: that basically is the idea
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10:33<valdyn>Takayama: which happens automagically after a while anyway
10:33<babilen>Takayama: I guess that fstab + uuid/label is the best you can get
10:34<babilen>Takayama: But if a mountpoint is still in use ...
10:34<babilen>sorry, brb (tel)
10:34<valdyn>mountpoints do not become busy by being used
10:34<valdyn>but in theory this could become messy
10:35<Takayama>hm, it was my understanding that udev would somehow automagically unmount unplugged devides
10:35<valdyn>Takayama: it does
10:35<valdyn>Takayama: but it takes some time
10:36<Takayama>valdyn: maybe this is some procss that can be repeated more often by config?
10:36<valdyn>Takayama: maybe this is alot easier if you just disable the possiblity that someone messes with hardware he shouldnt mess with
10:37<Takayama>ok, so back the the murder scenario we are ...
10:37<valdyn>Takayama: like using the usb plug on the backside and some duct tape
10:37<valdyn>Takayama: creating a scenario where users break hardware regularily is just wrong..
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10:39<cockroach>it doesn't have to be murder, excessive pain might be enough.
10:41<bighornram>on squeeze upgrade this morning I'm getting a conflicts: libgd2-xpm: Conflicts: libgd2 which is a virtual package. Conflicts: libgd2-noxpm but 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg-3.1 is installed.
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10:43<bighornram>do I remove libgd2?
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11:08<johnfg>hi guys
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11:15<abrotman>vamr: english in this channel
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11:15<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
11:15<vamr>Thank you.
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11:21<babilen> welcome back
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11:22<vamr>I have a problem...
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11:23<vamr>I was installing another distro and something wrong happen with a ntfs partition...
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11:24<vamr>... so, debian looks that partition like a swap... but in windows looks like a ntfs
11:25<sney>vamr: 'sudo fdisk -l' what is the partition labelled as?
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11:25<locklace>vamr: you can use fdisk/cfdisk/parted to change the partition type flag from swap back to whatever if it got messed up
11:25<sney>abrotman: fdisk is generally not in peoples' PATH, it's just easier
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11:25<abrotman>'fdisk -l as root'
11:26<sney>I just woke up, gimme a break ._.
11:26<locklace>!coffee sney
11:26*dpkg decants a fine mug of organic Peruvian for sney, courtesy of locklace
11:27<vamr>Mmm... im using WXP right now... but i tried to mount from shell and it worked
11:27<abrotman>canadians sleep late!
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11:28<vamr>In gparted the partition labell is swap
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11:34<vamr>I'll try fdisk, thank you.
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11:34<vamr>see ya
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11:46<muzy>truecrypt + debian = fail
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11:50<dpkg>somebody said truecrypt was a <non-free> (under DFSG's definitions) implementation of on-the-fly disk encryption that also attempts plausible deniability, something not found in other OTFE systems like <EncFS> and <LUKS>. Not in Debian, ITP in bug #413070.
11:51<muzy>does someone know an alternative?
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11:53<dpkg>LUKS: Linux Unified Key Setup, a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. For more information, see , and google 'LUKS Debian'. To access on win32 platforms, see and ask me about <ext2fsd>.
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12:05<padski>I just bought a "4GB" usb flash stick. fdisk is reporting 3.67 MB (SI). The packaging mentions windows software. from experience that is somewhere else. *Wonders* Is there a lower level I can go in at and get my 300+MB back (or are they ripping me off) ?
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12:08<Supaplex>one box got upgraded to linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 2.6.26-21lenny4 but breaks drbd. I'm looking at the wiki article for pinning, and I don't see how to pin by a version. I know lenny2 works fine for drbd. how do I block lenny3+4 and downgrade to lenny2 now I am in this state?
12:08<COla65>hi, anyone can tell me how to install Debian5 minimal ( on USB ) with ethernet Atheros ( not reconized )
12:09<COla65> ? thanks
12:09<padski>Supaplex, do you even need to do that with a kernel ? just fix it at the boot loader ?
12:10<Supaplex>based on what I see from dpkg -S the old kernel isn't there
12:10<padski>Supaplex, so install it ?
12:10<Supaplex>so download it manually and dpkg -i?
12:11<padski>no ...
12:11<Supaplex>that doesn't help block lenny3+4 releases from installing
12:11<dpkg>For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images.
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12:12<padski>example: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 (but the specific one that you want) rather than a meta-package (is that what they're called?)
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12:13<Supaplex>this isn't a meta package
12:13<COla65>nobody can help me ?
12:13<Supaplex>COla65: see what dpkg said
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12:14<padski>Supaplex, ok, but you know what I mean. it is possible to directly install a specific version using apt-get just as easily as dpkg and it saves on broken systems :-)
12:14<Supaplex>padski: linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 has lenny2 3 and 4 versions. I'm looking at dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 and the files in
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12:15<COla65>sory i dont understand it was for me
12:16<padski>Supaplex, your current packages file has only the version 4 I guess ? are the packages still in the main repo or snapshots ?
12:16<padski>COla65, I think the suggestion is get a better kernel that has support for your ethernet, and directions on where to go
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12:17<Supaplex>I think they're still in the main repos. it's not that old
12:17<padski>Supaplex, but not in the packages file any more ?
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12:18<padski>COla65, keep it in the main channel. is better.
12:18<COla65> padski, dpkg > ok i will try , thanks !
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12:19<padski>Supaplex, I have to admit that if it were me I would probably do as you say, but it is not the right advise to suggest it here :-)
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12:22<padski>Supaplex, or run a later kernel ? hasn't drbd gone into the mainline now ?
12:22<dpkg> (soon to be is an archive of all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. This service replaces the old site that is no longer maintained.
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12:22<Supaplex>it is, but 573490 is not my friend today
12:22<padski>573490 ?
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12:26<padski>so roll back to the previous version that worked. you did keep the previous version ? ;-)
12:26<padski>Supaplex, is it a production system ?
12:27<Supaplex>aptitude overwrote the old kernel
12:27<locklace>Supaplex: download and dpkg -i it, and then "aptitude hold" it
12:27<Supaplex>yes it's production, and I found the older kernel in /var/cache/apt. rebooting now.
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12:29<padski>Supaplex, I used to have one of those. it was fun :-)
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12:31<s4br3>Hi, in my home network I have a d-link which serves a PS3 and several computers with Debian Sid and/or dual w Vista. However, I cannot connect my Asus eee 1008HA which works fine in XP, but not in Debian Sid. I have followed several tips using Google, but none have help... Please, someone?
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12:34<titan8990>s4br3: it would help if you mentioned your wireeless card... why are you running sid?
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12:34<bja>!es-social lorena
12:34<dpkg>lorena: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
12:35<lorena>got morgin
12:35<Supaplex>!tell DEVMIK about hold
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12:36<dpkg>[ath9k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11 draft-n PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.27. Lenny users: ask me about <bpo> to install a later kernel image package containing this driver. AR9287 and AR2427 are supported in Debian 2.6.32 kernel images. For USB 802.11n device support, ask me about <ar9170usb>.
12:36<s4br3>titan8990: Atheros AR9285
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12:37<titan8990>s4br3: should be pretty standard. read the wiki, check the BTS, don't run sid
12:37<s4br3>titan8990: BTS?
12:38<titan8990>sid user doesn't know about the BTS?
12:38<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try or . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges
12:38<s4br3>ok... :)
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12:39<padski>Supaplex, going forward, I think you could rebuild the drbd module for the new kernel, but I'm not sure how they plan to resolve the bug ...
12:40<Supaplex>yeah. I was scrambling to restore service first. :)
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12:42<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: babilen complains about: usuario__lorena spamming/trolling
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12:46<babilen>lorena: It would be great if you could stop. This is an English support channel for Debian.
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12:48<abrotman>i thought he had left for good ..
12:48<babilen>me too
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12:52<padski>Supaplex, yes, exactly. this is why, as you go into such an upgrade you want to be ready for a rollback :-) done well you can safely upgrade some clusters without interruptions, even in the face of some failures. Of course, there is also that fun stuff they do where they reboot each other ... ;-)
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12:55<s4br3>titan8990: It works if I use WEP but not under WPA2.
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12:56<padski>Supaplex, "rolling upgrade" is the term I was looking for. Have you considered using ksplice ? also, I used to have a test system that I would try complicated upgrades on.
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12:56<Supaplex>it's my vacation, and I usually test stuff, but i'm always on call ;)
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12:57<Supaplex>!nickometer xXHACKERXx
12:57<dpkg>'xXHACKERXx' is 99.880% lame, supaplex
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12:57<xXHACKERXx>olle en español porfi
12:57<othor>I wonder, is there any way to make the display go to sleep after more than 1 hour? say 4? gnome power management app doesn't allow more than 1 hour. I tried looking in the gconf-editor but it doesnt allow editing ("Currently pairs and schemas can't be edited. This will be changed in a later version." is what is has to say).
12:57<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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12:59<Supaplex>padski: it's great to get a phone call about a /less than redundancy/ HA cluster, and come to find out the backup wasn't upgraded first. if the backup was upgraded first, we would have discovered this before it turned into a service outage. anyway, time for zzZzzz. ttyl.
12:59<muzy>Does someone know where to get Xvnc under Debian?=
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12:59<padski>Supaplex, ouch! I feel your pain :-)
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13:00<padski>muzy, is that xvnc4viewer ?
13:00<muzy>padski, it should be a vnc server
13:01<kootoomootoo>Hi! How can I probe pure-ftpd server from same machine
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13:02<padski>muzy, debtags search 'network::server && use::viewing' | grep -i vnc
13:03<muzy>padski, found a better way to do what iwant ;=)
13:03<muzy>ssh -X was the key
13:04<othor>kootoomootoo: try ftp from the command line
13:04<kootoomootoo>I tried this
13:04<abrotman>probe ?
13:05<kootoomootoo>200 PORT command successful
13:05<kootoomootoo>150 Connecting to port 42162
13:05<kootoomootoo>226-Options: -l
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13:07<kootoomootoo>I have been kicked
13:07<kootoomootoo>for copy/paste
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13:07<abrotman>yes ..
13:07<babilen>kootoomootoo: yes, use a pastebin next time
13:07<babilen>!tell kootoomootoo -about pastebin
13:08<kootoomootoo>I will study this aspect
13:08<othor>About my question. Any advice where to look into changing the power management settings?
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13:12<Teow>What is the fastest file system supported by Debian? ext2? ext3? ext4? bfs? minix?
13:13<padski>Teow, fastest for what ?
13:13<Teow>fast access of thousands of medium sized files
13:14<Teow>doesnt need to be encrypted, doesn't need to support software RAID
13:14<Teow>just plain storage
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13:16<musca>othor: maybe this may help you
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13:18<abrotman>Teow: if you have to ask, ext3
13:18<Teow>i see quite a few reviews (up to date ones) saying that reiserfs v4 is 95% times faster
13:19<titan8990>muderfs is typically only faster on smaller files
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13:19<othor>musca: Thank you, will look into it later tonight. Out of time for now.
13:19<Teow>well, the file sizes differ, some are 500 mb and some are 2 kb
13:19<Teow>i think the average size is 1/2 mb
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13:20<locklace>!start a filesystem war
13:20<dpkg>Sigh, just use ext3 already.
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13:21<Teow>so why is ext4 being made dpkg? :P
13:21<abrotman>Teow: in lenny, it's not
13:21<Teow>well it comes with mkfs.ext4 and mkfs.ext4dev
13:21<abrotman>the .26 kernel in lenny doesn't really have ext4 support
13:21<abrotman>it's the ext4_dev
13:22<titan8990>it was the early development support
13:22<titan8990>Teow: what kind of application are we talking about here?
13:22<Teow>the storage of many tiny files, averaging about 1/2 mb (but some being 3 kb and some being 700 mb)
13:22<Teow>disks are 2 TB
13:23<titan8990>it just needs to store them? It doesn't need to say... read them for an application?
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13:24<Teow>storing and reading (no deleting)
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13:24<titan8990>Teow: I am trying to ask the function of the machine
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13:24<Teow>an website used for uploading files (aka rapidshare)
13:25<titan8990>but not webDAV?
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13:28<Teow>i suppose ext3 will do
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13:36<abrotman>lorenzo: try
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13:39<carmen>you speak spanish ? ahahaha
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13:39<mkavatar>no sorry
13:39<carmen>olaaa caracolaa
13:39<mkavatar>do you?
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13:52<kootoomootoo>I can't see files on my pure-ftpd server, connection looks that is ok
13:52<kootoomootoo>with ftp localhost command
13:52<bja>!tell carmen about es-social
13:53<kootoomootoo>pass user and password
13:53<abrotman>bja: gone
13:53<bja>damn lag
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13:54<titan8990>bja: you have a hotkey for that by now?
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13:58<padski>how does libxapian get into my debootstrap ?!?
13:59<titan8990>padski: what is that?
13:59<padski>"The Xapian search engine library is a highly adaptable toolkit ..."
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14:00<padski>I did a debootstrap and I get a search engine library ... and a kitchen sink ;-)
14:00<titan8990>padski: it doesn't appear to be in debian. check
14:00<titan8990>padski: oh, your saying you have it?
14:00<padski>titan8990, package is libxapian15. yes
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14:01<padski>titan8990, do you think it is infectious ? ;-)
14:01<titan8990>padski: ah, well it would have helped if I spelled it right when searching
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14:02<titan8990>padski: aptitude why <package>
14:02<titan8990>padski: looks like its required for libept0 which is required for aptitude
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14:06<padski>titan8990, thanks, I have never seen 'aptitude why' before. libept is indeed a reason in its own right, but then it looks like debtags pulls that in ...
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14:07<xXHACKERXx> -Kimico-
14:07<titan8990>!ops xXHACKERXx spammer
14:07<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: titan8990 complains about: xXHACKERXx spammer
14:07<xXHACKERXx>hacker xchat
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14:08<titan8990>where is our flood bot?
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14:08<abrotman>titan8990: the bot can lag .. or he wasn't going fast enough
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14:09<titan8990>abrotman: what was that kick about? same user?
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14:14<padski>what does one do after debootstrap ? (since baseconfig went?), I always fix stuff by hand, but I have and idea I once saw a handy one-liner.
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14:21<titan8990>!install guide
14:21<dpkg>The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>.
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14:21<titan8990>padski: there is a chapter of the install guide dedicated to debootstrap installation
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14:23<padski>titan8990, thanks
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14:37<cesurasean>ok, how come even with non free linux firmware installed, and ifconfig shows an uplink, server cannot connect to the internet?
14:37<cesurasean>power reset last night, and rebooted server. :/
14:38<abrotman>are you going to give us more details? like the hardware or driver? or kernel? or version of debian ?
14:38<cesurasean>squeeze, im not sure anymore details, as i cannot ssh. :(
14:38<cesurasean>why would rebooting a box, break connection anyways?
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14:41<ikkerus>Hey guys. Does anyone know how to retain if the user already exist in active directory when sending a mail to someone?
14:42<abrotman>in debian ?
14:42<ikkerus>I'm using postfix, dovecot with authenticating against ADS with
14:42<ikkerus>in debian, yes
14:42<cesurasean>abrotman, how do i go about getting this back up? :(
14:42<abrotman>cesurasean: if you can't ssh in, how are you going to work on it ?
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14:43<abrotman>cesurasean: is the link light on?
14:43<abrotman>cesurasean: can you even ping its own IP ?
14:43<cesurasean>yes, i checked the connection to the switch
14:43<cesurasean>let me try
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14:43<ikkerus>I'm getting annoyed.. when I'm sending a mail to someone like peter.pan@domain.local the server is creating a maildir for it..
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14:45<cesurasean>abrotman, slow booting up. give me a min. ntp is stuck right now probably because no connection. i'll ping itself and let you know the results.
14:45<cesurasean>give me a min.
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14:47<bja>ikkerus: check dovecot's configuration
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14:52<AngryDrake>Hi. I have a problem. I'm using Debian 5, and would like to change the keyboard layout to a custom one (specifically, a Dvorak with Polish characters accessible with RAlt). How could I do that?
14:53<ikkerus>bja: I think there's missing something in dovecot's configuration like you said. I have to retain if the user I'm sending a mail to already exists checking against the ADS-Server..
14:53<cesurasean>abrotman, sorry took so long, im able to ping itself, and connect to itself with ssh,
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14:53<abrotman>cesurasean: check your cables
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14:54<fnmueller>cesurasean: make sure it does not stop working after you logged out
14:54<fnmueller>cesurasean: I believe someone else had that problems a couple of days ago, but I am not sure
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14:56<cenobyte>@angrydrake i hope this helps here is a link to what i believe may be a solution for you
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14:57<fnmueller>hmmm, is squeeze supposed to be freezed this month?
14:58<fnmueller>or was that postponed again?
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14:59<dpkg>Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See
14:59<fnmueller>hmm, thx
15:00<fnmueller>chealer: this is not what my question was about, but thanks ^^
15:00<fnmueller>I asked if the freeze date was changed
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15:00<fnmueller>freeze != release
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15:00<cesurasean>abrotman, i checked cables and they seem fine. i even tried another cable...
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15:01<cesurasean>could this be a malfunction of the ethernet card?
15:01<chealer>fnmueller: there is no freeze date for squeeze
15:01<abrotman>fnmueller: did you read the email linked ?
15:01<abrotman>cesurasean: yes .. it could be fried
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15:02<cesurasean>abrotman, i was able to ssh from another card. is there any commands you know to run which could help diagnose this?
15:03<fnmueller>abrotman: no, I thought is was about the release ;-), chealer hmm, thx, I guessed there was one, bad memory ^^
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15:03<AngryDrake>cenobyte: Thanks. I'll try this.
15:03<Araneidae>Does squeeze have a viable option for installing the NVIDIA glx driver? `aptitude install nvidia-glx` is ... interesting:
15:03<bja>!es-social lm
15:03<dpkg>lm: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
15:03<abrotman>cesurasean: not if the card is toasted
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15:04<cesurasean>abrotman, i had problems last time with this card, i think. the light shows up on the switch, so i assume it's working. if i do lspci or something, will this not tell me if the card is still functioning?
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15:05<abrotman>cesurasean: sure .. lspci -nn | grep -i net
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15:05<cenobyte>@angrydrake your welcome
15:05<AngryDrake>cenobyte: I'm looking at the first screen of 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' and I don't know what to select.
15:05<Araneidae>Looks like this one:
15:06<cockroach>cesurasean: just curious, what kind of chip is it?
15:06<lm>bja como te llamas en verdad
15:06<cesurasean>00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] [1106:3065] (rev 78)
15:06<ikkerus>bja: Thank you i had to check if receiptient already exists against the ADS
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15:07<ikkerus>now its time to build the ldap filter.. :/
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15:07<cockroach>cesurasean: okay, no idea then :)
15:07<cockroach>cesurasean: but basically the machine can only communicate with itself?
15:07<lm>bja como te llamas en verdad???
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15:08<lm>bja estas hay??
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15:09<cesurasean>cockroach, yes, with that card, yes.
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15:09<aurorixi>bja soy yo te acuerdas ayer nos ablamos
15:09<cesurasean>i think i may just throw another card in that box, and say to hell with the Rhine 2
15:09<locklace>aurorixi: ingles solamente aqui, perra
15:09<cesurasean>it's built in, and it may be broken.
15:09<cockroach>cesurasean: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig somewhere?
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15:10<chealer>Araneidae: not from pure squeeze, but you can install unstable's drivers
15:10<AngryDrake>cenobyte: On a more in-depth look, it doesn't seem to be what I need.
15:10<cockroach>cesurasean: eth0 or eth1?
15:11<AngryDrake>Polish Dvorak isn't among the list of options.
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15:11<Araneidae>chealer, does the driver have the same name in unstable?
15:12<Araneidae>I've never installed from a non-default location -- what's the basic trick?
15:12<cockroach>cesurasean: looks reasonable :)
15:12<Araneidae>!dpkg sid
15:12<dpkg>sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>.
15:12<chealer>Araneidae: yes
15:13<chealer>!tell Araneidae about tum
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15:13<cenobyte>@angrydrake im sorry to hear that it didnt work thats the only way i know how to change the layout perhaps someone else can help you or maybe you could post on the debian user forums and receive a solution there
15:13<locklace>!tell Araneidae about nvidia squeeze
15:13<cockroach>cesurasean: and it does seem to be sending data. have you tried tshark?
15:14<Araneidae>Oh wow. Thanks. I'll have to have a look at those tomorrow!
15:14<cesurasean>cockroach, what is tshark?
15:14<cockroach>cesurasean: a network analyzer. might help you trying to figure out where your packets go.
15:15<cockroach>cesurasean: ... or you could just replace the card :)
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15:15<cesurasean>cockroach, how could that possibly help me though? how would that allow me to fix this?
15:16<cockroach>cesurasean: well, it seems that according to your ifconfig, your card is transmitting data but not receiving any. it would be interesting to know whether the data it sends actually arrives somewhere
15:17<Araneidae>Any ideas why nv should think my second DVI monitor is a VGA monitor?
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15:18<cesurasean>cockroach, interesting, but i don't really have that much time to fucks with that. :) i think the card is malfunctioning....... i'll probably just throw a pci card in there and knock this out.
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15:18<cesurasean>last time i thought it was because no cable was plugged into this card, but now im wondering if it's some hardware issue.
15:19<cesurasean>bought the motherboard off ebay, for whatever reason they were selling it. makes me wonder if the hardware issue was present when i purchased it.
15:19<cockroach>cesurasean: i know cards that do similar things (can usually be fixed by cutting all power), but they're r8169 cards...
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15:20<cesurasean>cockroach, what does cutting power do exactly? reset the device?
15:21<cesurasean>that's a possible solution. i may try to cut off power completely, and see what the results are, then. i see where you may have a point there for certain hardware. perhaps the reset of power was so brief ( no clock changed ), that it's got the card in a loop.
15:21<cockroach>cesurasean: iirc in that case the problem is a corrupted eprom that seems to get fixed then the device runs out of power
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15:22<cesurasean>i have power backups, and even those did not seem to kick on in time, due to the fluctuating power current was so quick like. split second.
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15:23<cesurasean>i find that odd, as well.
15:23<cockroach>hrm, sounds like something that could theoretically upset hardware. or break it :)
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15:24<AivariuX>Hello, I have problem with my Debian mysql server ERROR 2002 (HY000) How Can i solve it?
15:24<RASTAFARI>Esta es la sala de cumana!?
15:24<cesurasean>anyways, that is just what i assume. 5 machines were off, but no clocks have changed time in the house, so i find it sorta odd.
15:24<RASTAFARI>i see that not
15:24<diggy>do you have error description?
15:24<bja>!es-social RASTAFARI
15:24<dpkg>RASTAFARI: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador, por favor vaya a otro canal. Si necesitas soporte con Debian en Espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
15:25<AivariuX> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysqld.sock' (2)
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15:25<cockroach>cesurasean: indeed
15:25<diggy>check is it running
15:26<AivariuX>Not, it can't start.
15:26<cesurasean>cockroach, thx for your input. i will switch off this machine's power completely, since i know these onboards stay on even when turned off, and see if that helps at all. if not, im just going to place another card in as to not waste any time.
15:26<cockroach>cesurasean: you're welcome, and good luck
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15:29<zeus>hi, i'm trying to setting the screen resolution on my lenny cli. It seems i can't use the vga=ask in grub menu.lst because my tweaks became overwritten on evey update-grub command. How do i have to set the grub boot resolution ?
15:30<cockroach>zeus: have a look at the commented parts of menu.lst, you can set defaults there
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15:32<zeus>cockroach: wow ! thank you !
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15:32<bja>zeus: Take a closer look at menu.lst there is a way to make tweaks be persistent through kernel updates
15:33<cockroach>zeus: you're welcome
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15:48<Teow>I'm trying to set 'local-infile' to 0 for MySQL. Adding 'local-infile=0' to /etc/mysql/my.cnf worked for CentOs but not for Debian. Any idea?
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15:50<stephankn>Good evening! I have a SSH port forwarding to postgresql on localhost. But openssh uses my external address to connect, not Where can this behavior be changed? Postgresql refuses connection not originating from localhost
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15:53<locklace>stephankn: huh? if you're running the ssh on the system itself, just use as the address
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15:53<locklace>stephankn: and if you're running it on another host inbound, then also just use in the forward-to address field
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15:55<stephankn>locklace: windows uses putty to set up forwarding from (windows) port 5432 to (linux) localhost:5432. Postgresql is confugured to accept connections from But it appears to connect using the external IP of the server :(
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15:56<stephankn>I verified with nc -vv -l -p 6644 it is not using the loopback address for the connection. Why?
15:56<kfisher>the tor channel is quit any help me here with it
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15:57<locklace>stephankn: what happens if you change the forward-to address "localhost:5432" to ""
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16:00<stephankn>locklace: trying... with nc it originates from Looks fine, But I thought I had tried that with postgresql already. will try again...
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16:02<stephankn>looks like localhost does not get resolved right...
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16:06<stephankn>ok, I changed postgresql to listen on instead of localhost, now also forwarding is working.
16:06<stephankn>Where is localhost set up?
16:07<locklace>/etc/hosts and make sure your nsswitch is set up to consult files before dns
16:07<locklace>the line in /etc/nsswitch.conf should read something like "hosts: files dns"
16:08<stephankn>ok, my question got lost. Was asking whether it's /etc/hosts.
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16:10<stephankn>hosts is set up to contain localhost as an alias to my external ip. Will add another line for localhost... Is there any harm with www being an alias to my external IP?
16:11<locklace>localhost should always point to you can do whatever you want for your other aliases
16:12<stephankn>locklace: you're right. That's what I expected. Never thought it might point to somewhere else. hosts was preconfigured by my provider with the initial setup of the vserver.
16:13<inkbottle>Hi, (testing) netinst process had recognized a wlan card :) But is it possible to use wpa encryption instead of wep?
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16:13<micha>good evening
16:14<locklace>inkbottle: you will need a backport installer image for wpa during install,
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16:14<stephankn>locklace: think that solved the problem. Thank you very much for the prompt help!
16:15<locklace>!congratulate stephankn
16:15<dpkg>Good show stephankn, you did it!
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16:15<inkbottle>locklace, ok i give a look at this page
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16:19<micha>how to load specific kernel module while installing (rt2860sta for example)?
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16:19<locklace>micha: switch to a vt with a shell prompt with alt-<f3> or whatever, and modprobe it
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16:20<Newbumz>Hi all. My google-foo is failing was wondering if anyone was on who was a wiz bang at doing shell scripts?
16:20<locklace>!tell Newbumz about ask
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16:21<micha>thanks ;)
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16:22<abrotman>Newbumz: #bash ?
16:22<abrotman>erm .. #bash on
16:22<locklace>assuming you're lame enough to be writing scripts in bash
16:22<Newbumz>Thanks guys
16:22<mercutio22>Hello some of my compiz plugins stopped working suddenly. It seems my package versions got messed up: I should be using only squeeze packages:
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16:23<boolean>how do I actually get the xmms2 gui?
16:24<boolean>when I run xmms from the shell I only get a lot of options
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16:27<bja>!beer locklace
16:27*dpkg pours a quart of Gulden Drak for locklace
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16:29<locklace>actually i'm going to go over to the dark side
16:29<locklace>if you can't beat them, join them
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16:29<boolean>esperanza: server setting: enter server connection path?
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16:33<mercutio22>Ok, I will ask an easier one, how can I purge every compiz related package??
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16:37<bja>aptitude --purge compiz && aptitude --purge-unused
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16:50<boolean>hmm.. i seem to get segment fault when running qt4 based xmms frontends. (running testing by the way... i know.. you don't want to help...)
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16:51<locklace>boolean: check the bts and file a bug if there isn't one already there
16:51<boolean>i don't know how to do that
16:51<boolean>first time
16:51<locklace>!btssmite boolean
16:51*dpkg beats boolean around the head repeatedly with and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if boolean is running testing or unstable
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16:52<locklace>!tell boolean about bts
16:52<locklace>!tell boolean about reportbug
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16:55<RedCom>evening, is there someone who can spare me a minute helping me? I can't seem to assemble one of my raid arrays after install (no/bad superblock)
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17:02<mercutio22>is compiz broken on squeeze?
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17:03<RedCom>the individual partitions aren't showing up in /dev either, but they still show in fdisk -l as raid autodetect
17:03<narsx>i need help to launch kde desktop on knoppix 6.2
17:07<boolean>compiz is broken on squeeze
17:07<boolean>had to add emerald window decorator from an external source
17:07<boolean>else I didn't get any borders
17:07<boolean>also.. I couldn't get the extra and unstable plugins to work
17:08<boolean>when I checked them, they just got unchecked again
17:08<locklace>!tell narsx about knoppix
17:08<boolean>kde4 window manager has most of the feautures like wobbeling windows and 3d cube
17:09<boolean>the only thing I miss is windows that goes up in flames :p
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17:10<narsx>how do i get the kde work on knoppix 6.2 boolean?
17:11<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. unofficial: <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
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17:11<abrotman>narsx: this channel does not support knoppix
17:11<boolean>ahh.. maybe i should mention that compiz is broken on kde4.. don't know about gnome
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17:23<boolean>i'm starting to love squeeze
17:23<boolean>can't wait until it gets stable
17:23<boolean>kde4 is just beautiful
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17:34<mercutio32>is anyone here unisng compiz in squeeze>
17:34<boolean>i did
17:35<boolean>and i mentioned something about it if you scroll up...
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17:40<abrotman>boolean: he joined after your conversation
17:42<boolean>sorry about that
17:43<boolean>mercutio22, still here? i can priv msg what i said if you are interested
17:44<boolean>two different persons :p
17:44<boolean>22 and 32 :p
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17:45<boolean>is openoffice 3 entering squeeze soon?
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17:45<abrotman>it already has
17:45<judd> -- etch: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch6; etch-security: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch9; etch-backports: 1:2.4.1-12~bpo40+1; lenny: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny3; lenny-security: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny6; lenny-backports: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:3.1.1-16; sid: 1:3.2.0-4
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17:49<boolean>i can't see a 3 there?
17:50<boolean>a.. 1:3
17:51<icebrain>btw, what's the "1:" supposed to mean?
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17:53<boolean>and what is the openoffice.org2 packages?
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17:58<themill>!version epoch
17:58<dpkg>The version number of a packge have a prepended number called the "epoch". It is only added when the system for upstream version numbers changes. Example: in sarge, X was version 6.8 but in etch it was 1.1 (xfree86->xorg). But 1<6, so we add an epoch "2:" to signify that everything with 2: is newer (if there is no : the epoch is assumed to be "0"). See section 5.6.12 of <policy> or ask me about <compare versions> <debian revision>
17:58<themill>boolean: there aren't any in debian
17:59<boolean>i got them when using aptitude search
18:00<boolean>didn't have any description
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18:00<boolean>and had a v in front
18:00<boolean>don't know what that means
18:01<themill>!virtual package
18:01<dpkg>virtual package is, like, a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo;
18:02<mercutio22>boolean: yeah, i am here.
18:02<themill>,rprovides openoffice.org2
18:02<judd>openoffice.org2 in lenny/i386 is provided by:
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18:04<boolean>mercutio22, I thought you were someone else. there also was a mercutio32
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18:04<mercutio22>boolean: yeah,,that was me, I connected with two different machines by mistake
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18:05<boolean>ok. did you get the compiz stuff i said?
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18:14<Minase>can someone help me with something please
18:14<Minase>i have a little problem
18:14<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
18:14<Minase>i want to know how video streaming works,didnt find my answer on the NET
18:15<Dalgiss>anyone here using Backtrack4?
18:15<dpkg>BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. #backtrack-linux on See also <based on debian>.
18:15<themill>Dalgiss: try #backtrack-linux on
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18:15<Minase>let me explain the problem
18:16<Minase>how can i make time skip in a video,lets say it just loaded 3 mins out of 10 but i want to jump to min 5 and to load form there
18:18<abrotman>that depends on the player
18:18<Minase>hmm so it isnt ffmpeg thing? or any other codec?
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18:22<bob493>I'm having problems with initramfs
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18:24<bob493>when I enter my password it says "unknown fstype, bad password or options
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18:24<bob493>I know the password is correct... and the only options I'm using under "/etc/crypttab" is "luks"
18:25<bob493>what could be the problem? :P
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18:44<ross28>HI BRO-S
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19:08<lancelot_of>hi all
19:09<lancelot_of>any rapid way to burn a generic iso on usb stick and to make it bootable?It seems to me unetbootin works only with linux distros
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19:10<abrotman>!usb install
19:10<dpkg>Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at BIOS can't boot from USB? Use
19:11<lancelot_of>abrotman, thanks but i'm not interested in burning/installing a debian iso
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19:20<lancelot_of>but i'm searching for burning IN debian a generic iso on usb then making it bootable
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19:21<addux>anyone have any luck with 64-bit flashplayer for debian lenny
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19:23<addux>was geht
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19:25<addux>was ist gut?
19:25<bremner>!tell addux -about de
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19:36*MeCooL i`m back
19:37<Ravi>When is Debian squeeze going to be released officially?
19:37<Ravi>(that's the one after lenny, correct?)
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19:55<lancelot_of>how to burn a generic iso image on usb drive?
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20:04<bremner>lancelot_of: I'm not not sure you can in a straightforward way, if by usb drive you mean flash memory. /msg dpkg syslinux for a bootloader that can use iso iirc, or see unetbootin
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21:16<lantizia>Hey, anyone ever email Ian and get an answer back :) lol
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21:19<abrotman>you joined to ask that?
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21:24<astronut>lantizia: yes
21:24<astronut>(not me personally, but someone has)
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22:18<supermatt1000>i need help installing this because there is no deb for it
22:19<supermatt1000>any one here cause i need help
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22:26<LinuxNoob88>how do I download gtk+2.1?
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22:46<Whoppix27>whatz up?
22:47*Hawkeye is away smoking...
22:47<Whoppix27>hi hawk
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22:55<lobby>how secure, concerning privacy is chromium?
22:56<lantizia>abrotman: cool, well lets see if he answers my ramblings lol
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23:01<rudi_s_>lobby: I don't have any checks, but it's from google, this should tell you everything you need.
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23:02<lobby>yes that is why i ask rudi_s_ nobody seams to know ... and I do like the browser
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23:03<rudi_s_>lobby: Well, it's open source, you can check it ;-) I don't use anything from google if I can avoid so I'm not much help there ..
23:03<chiqui>How could i know if someone install a package on my computer using .tar.gz or using aptitude or using apt-get
23:04<rudi_s_>chiqui: Check the dpkg logs? But why would anybody do that? Do you give them the password to your system?
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23:05<chiqui>Nobody knows my password it just a question because im trying to understand that issue
23:05<chiqui>for academic reasons
23:05<rudi_s_>chiqui: Ok. You can't be sure! If anybody got access to your machine you're lost.
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23:06<rudi_s_>If you used tripwire and then boot from a Live-CD and verify the binaries you could check it though.
23:06<chiqui>I know that tool
23:06<chiqui>is amazing
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23:07<chiqui>my question is only to how could i know how my package are installed on my system
23:07<siziki>dpkg -L packagesname
23:07<dpkg>ii packagesname 2.3-12.3 siziki's private gamp collection
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23:09<rudi_s_>And dpkg -l to list all installed _packages_.
23:09<chiqui>with that information i knoww the package name the version installed but could know if was used .tar.gz or dpkg, aptitude or apt-get
23:09<rudi_s_>If somebody installs a program from a .tar.gz it won't get detected.
23:10<rudi_s_>chiqui: If you see it with dpkg -L/-l it wasn't from a .tar.gz, but you don't know if it's aptitude/apt-get/dpkg.
23:10<rudi_s_>You could check /var/log/dpkg /var/log/aptitude ..
23:10<chiqui>rudi_s_: i know that apt-get or aptitude both use dpkg in a bottom level
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23:12<rudi_s_>chiqui: Well, the logs could let you differentiate between dpkg/apt-get/aptitude ..
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23:12<chiqui>rudi_s_: the great thing about these package are the posibility of download the package and all package relate to him to solve dependecy problems
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23:12<chiqui>rudi_s_:Of course
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23:13<chiqui>rudi_s_: sorry my english is not good
23:13<chiqui>what is np
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23:14<rudi_s_>no problem
23:14<rudi_s_>np ;-)
23:15<chiqui>im trying to install gentoo a friend told me that is incredible!
23:15<chiqui>please correct me when my english is too foreign jajaja
23:16<rudi_s_>chiqui: Well, it's different. But I prefer Debian because I don't have to wait so long for a package to compile ..
23:16<chiqui>someone has work with linux from scratch
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23:16<chiqui>that's a good reason
23:16<chiqui>i prefer debian
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23:17<chiqui>rudi_s_: you know something about FreeBSD
23:17<rudi_s_>chiqui: Not much, haven't tried it yet.
23:17<rudi_s_>But this is still #debian ...
23:17<chiqui>rudi_s_: you know something about FreeBSD
23:18<chiqui>rudi_s_: im know im sorry
23:18<chiqui>rudi_s_: thanks i have to go
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23:34<aabrown>I need to know
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23:34<aabrown>How do I restart the CUPS service
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23:34<aabrown>Just got a new hp printer, the .ppd file for it is there
23:35<aabrown>but when I actually try to install it, it tells me to restart the CUPS service
23:36<aabrown>But how do I actually restart the service? or rather turn it on
23:37<ml|>/etc/init.d/cups restart should do
23:37<aabrown>Gives me the error: Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited on signal 15!
23:37<aabrown> failed!
23:38<ml|>try stop then start
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23:40<aabrown>ok it restarted.
23:40<aabrown>now I will try to install printer.
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23:42<aabrown>okay looks like it works, but let me try to actually print something
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23:53<aabrown>thank god for IRC
23:53<aabrown>my printer prints
23:53<aabrown>restart my computer just to make sure
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